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Ignoring Stupid Fears, Dealing With Legitimate Worries

March 30, 2011 by  

Ignoring Stupid Fears, Dealing With Legitimate Worries

A few weeks ago I called a friend that lives in Los Angeles. I spoke to his secretary and chided her, asking her if she had bought her iodide pills because of events in Japan.

Funny you should ask she said; her mother was on her way to pick up a bottle for both of them. Later I sat back and wondered: Why is it that we worry about such things?

I suspect tens of thousands of people along the West Coast fretted about radiation while they drank alcohol and smoked cigarettes.

So why shouldn’t we fear radiation from the crisis at the Japanese nuclear power plants? Simple, it doesn’t pass the common sense test. If there was a serious leak there would be a lot of dead Japanese. Also consider in August 1945 the United States exploded two nuclear bombs over Japan. Yet radiation did not spread to Hawaii let alone California.

In fact, if you live on the West Coast and you buy iodide pills off the Internet it could be counterfeit. In that case the remedy is worse than the risk.

Fear is nothing new. It is primal. With the 24-hour news cycle it can be infectious.

When the AIDS scare broke, I had a friend who had been involved in a one night fling with a woman years earlier. After it was announced that Rock Hudson was dying of AIDS there was rampant speculation that a plague was about to be unleashed. My friend was certain he had HIV. He called the local AIDS hotline and demanded a blood test. My friend explained his circumstances at which point the nurse on the hotline told him that the chances he would be killed in a car accident driving to get the test were higher than the likelihood he had the virus.

The list of what we don’t need to fear is almost endless. What I want to address are the things that we should be concerned about and what precautions we can take to protect ourselves.

The U.S. Economy And Stock And Bond Markets
Nothing from the Middle East to Japanese can derail the bull market in U.S. stocks. The Dow Jones Industrial Average stands above 12,000, pushed higher by the tidal wave of fresh money courtesy of Washington bailouts and Federal Reserve quantitative easing. New money in the absence of increased productivity does not create wealth.

President Barack Obama has created a buffer against the Great Deflation of 2008, yet fundamental problems still plague the U.S. economy.

The official government unemployment rate is running at close to 10 percent but the Bureau of Labor Statistics—the agency that accounts for people who have simply given up looking for work—puts the real unemployment rate closer to 16 percent.

The dearth of jobs means a frail recovery in consumer spending. Since that sector accounts for almost two-thirds of the nation’s gross domestic product, this is a problem for the immediate future.

It is possible that the Federal government and the Fed will continue to inject more money into the economy. But before too long, Washington will reach its breaking point; China and Japan will no longer purchase U.S. Treasury debt.

Tens of billions of dollars in Treasuries must be auctioned off weekly. These two nations alone hold more than $2 trillion in U.S. Treasury instruments that can be sold at a moment’s notice. Given the crisis in Japan, there is the possibility that even if Tokyo doesn’t sell Treasuries, it may stop making bids at Treasury auctions. Since the U.S. must sell this debt to finance itself the end result will be higher rates.

That will cripple the U.S. bond and stock markets. This is a real threat to your financial future, especially if you invested in U.S. paper instruments.

To reduce this threat you should have at least 20 percent of your investment funds in physical gold and silver, blue-chip resource stocks and physical cash. Use what proportions work best for you.

Your Personal Habits
It is ironic that the person that could hurt you most is yourself. I am not going to lecture you because there is no need for it. If you smoke, you know you should stop. If you drink more than moderately, you know you should cut back.

But there are other ways to take care of yourself. I used to be fanatical about exercise right up until I was in my early 40s. I took a decade off and the last year has been a tough comeback. But it has been worth it. I shed a few pounds doing simple things like walking every day. Now I can run three miles a day.

As important as the changes I have seen in my body have been the changes I feel in my mind.

You should be more active and try not to watch too much news. I have to for my work, but after a full day of CNN, Fox News and the BBC I feel incredibly tense. The media is good at selling fear. So too is our government.

I am not a fatalist but there is nothing I can do about an asteroid strike, terrorist attack or super-flu. Unless you want to remove yourself from society and live in a bunker, you will die of worry just thinking about such things.

I am not saying be unprepared. I take seriously what Bob Livingston says. My wife and I keep extra provisions such as water and food on hand. More importantly, I don’t take stupid risks. I don’t drink and drive, I do not travel on snow-covered roads and I won’t venture into the bad areas of the city.

If you treat your body and mind better and take fewer risks you will live a longer and happier life.

Yours in good times and bad,

John Myers
Editor, Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

P.S. If you would like to read an interesting book on risk, I recommend you pick up a copy of The Black Swan: The Impact of the Highly Improbable, by Nassim Nicholas Taleb. It is available at Amazon.com by clicking here.

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • Vigilant

    Excellent article, Mr. Myers.

    It’s precisely the selling of inordinate fear by the anti-nuclear crowd that will further set back our goals of energy independence.

    • Richard

      Could be a good thing, since the same Japanese company that certified the plant could withstand tsunami and earthquake that failed in Japan is building them in Texas.
      Nuclear isn’t the way to go for independence. We have more than plenty other ways, natural gas which is plentiful, hydrogen if Meyer’s patent can be had.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Drill baby, drill…..
        As long as it’s in Brazil…..
        (At U.S. tax payer expense)

        • Vicki

          It’s NOT in Brazil that they (the Brazilian oil company) are drilling. It is in the VERY SAME GULF that we (the US Companies) are NOT ALLOWED to drill.

          It would be hard to find a better example of Crony Capitalism and overt liberal hypocrisy then Obama’s involvement in that situation.

          • Jay

            OMG, what about the environment??? Doesn’t anybody care about the environment? I guess its only the Americans that should worry about the environment! To say that OB is a hypocrite, is an under statement!!!

        • http://Cut30.com Good4ya

          Drill Brazil Baby Drill

          New Obomber Energy Policy!

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            We all need to contact our U.S. House Reps and tell them to BLOCK the money Little Barry told Brazil he was going to give them.

            Your Rep’s web site would be:
            http://www.their last name.house.gov

            It’s easy to send them an email from there.

        • Bruce D.

          Old Henry, drilling in Brazil is Obama’s payback to George Soros who is heavily invested there. Between George Soros, GE, and Wall Street bailouts Obama is up to his neck in Corporate corruption.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Better yet…look at the graft happening between The administration and GE.Jeff Immelt is one of the cabinet members and his corp. pays no taxes.hmmmm……

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        Richard,

        whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/globalwarming.html

      • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

        5)www.middlebury.net/op-ed/global-warming-01.html

      • John

        To Richard
        Meyers works are available. Several people have been working trying to make his system work. Go to panaceauniversity.org.

    • DaveH

      Stress is a big killer. It weakens the immune system, leading to all sorts of deadly illnesses.
      The Media and the Government seem hell-bent on keeping us all stressed out.

      • Carlucci

        There comes a time when you just have to shut it out to maintain your sanity and keep the stress level down. When I have had enough, I turn on some relaxing music, sit outside by the pool, and then take the dog for a nice long walk. I don’t allow myself to think of all the bullshit going on in the world, and focus on the positives in my life. Works like a charm.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Beats psycotherapy @ $200 / hr, or a bartender @ $2 / beer….

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Carlucci,
          A record number of soldiers have committed suicide in the last year! All from stress! One here did it after his wife left him and he got into a fight. He figured his Marine carreer was over!

    • JeffH

      Can you say H1N1, global warming, DDT, Nuclear Energy, Japan to be the next Chernobyl

      We live in a culture of fear and terrorism promulgated by the media, politicians, governments, corporations and some very greedy and evil people in this world.

      There is only one method that’s been clinically proven to deflect fear mongering…Mr. Safety’s Anti-Fear Mongering Spray is all-natural (apart from the battery acid) and will keep the oppressive politicians and selfish profiteers away from you. No manipulative newscast or advertisement will ever take advantage of you again, GUARANTEED!

      • Kate8

        While fear-mongering is, indeed, stress-producing, it is even more stressful knowing that we will NEVER be told the truth about anything. They deliberately put out conflicting information constantly, keeping us jerked around every which way, until we just throw up our hands and close our ears.

        Information overload is a great way to keep people arguing amongst themselves, or to cause them to disbelieve everything. That way, even if we stumble upon the truth, we won’t recognize it.

        • mike dunningham

          i have read rennie and others and find myself most impressed with tbe minds that wrote these thoughts. kate8 appealed to me in the way that things do when they come from our deep past.remember kate8 that when you and others like you,find yourseves standing on the promentory and seeking to know the truth,take heart in this thought.WITH THOSE WHO FULLY UNDERSTAND,THE TRUTH IS AS IT IS. WITH THOSE WHO FAIL TO UNDERSTAND ,THE TRUTH IS AS IT IS.and the most marvelous truth is that which you find within.so bascicly those who know ,know no more than those that dont but the happiest are those who love their friends and family [and pets] and are loved in return. all respects from the non religionist,fx marketeer and dutiful slave to my cat.

          • Carlucci

            You got it. Your family, friends, neighbors, and pets can help you get through anything. I found that out when my precious husband passed away in ’05. I don’t know how people get through something that terrible on their own.

          • Kate8

            mike d – Agreed. When all is said and done, the only real TRUTH is LOVE. Everything else is meaningless.

            My family, including my beloved cats, are what make it all worthwhile.

            Carlucci – I lost my hubby in ’05, as well, right after the birth of my beautiful grandson. I thank God for my loving family, the awsome kindness of friends, and especially my grandbaby, who gave me new purpose.

            These are the times that try men’s souls. That’s because it’s time for us to stop looking for answers from an illusory world, and begin seeking TRUTH from within. No matter what the question, LOVE is always the answer.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            From a bumper sticker:

            If ignorance is bliss, why are there so many unhappy people?

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Mrs. Carlucci:

            When you have God and Jesus Christ, you are never alone.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Kate8:

            Boy, we’re getting introspective this afternoon. Unusual for a bunch of hard-core, mean-spirited, heartless conservatives…

            You know what? The scarey part is that in 20 years these will be the good old days.

            Yep, love people. Use things.

          • Kate8

            Old H – OMG, these will be the good old days.

            I guess we’d better enjoy them while they last!

        • Jay

          No Kate8, a day is coming when everything will be disclosed and laid bare.

          • Kate8

            Jay – Indeed.

        • Mike in MI

          K88 -
          The tactic of running out constantly conflicting information in this “good cop – bad cop”, “up the hill – down the hill, around the bottom and start all over again” modus operandi is principly a Chinese Water Torture methodology. It is purposefully designed to brainwash and “Break” the will of the subject/prisoner. Constant irritation is designed to drive a person bananas so eventually he knuckles under to the will of the tormenter who he is pushed to see as his helper, comforter and protecter so the subject/prisoner will run to him when any perceived obstacle or frustration is encountered.

          The people who have successfully resisted this programming have been people who mnistered to their fellow prisoners or who had a strong, sense of self, well grounded in a spiritual system or Entity outside themselves. They perceived this Entity to be concerned about them and to be a source of inner strength and comfort.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        JeffH:

        “We live in a culture of fear and terrorism promulgated by the media”.
        Actually I think our problems are promulgated by Satan. I guess I am being redundant….

        • Carlucci

          Old Henry says:

          Mrs. Carlucci:

          When you have God and Jesus Christ, you are never alone.

          O.H. You are exactly right. I have a note card posted on my vanity mirror. It says:

          No Jesus = No peace

          Know Jesus = Know peace

          • Jay

            That’s a good one Carlucci, I like that one

          • granny mae

            Carlucci,

            I too find peace in my Lord. He is always with me. I have to admit though that in the past three weeks I have found a great deal of fun and relaxation in watching my new puppy get aquainted with my cats ! Now my cats are not afraid of dogs in any way. They don’t run from dogs but they will jump to higher ground when they think it is necessary! Bubba came to us as a 5 week old puppy and he is a mut! Looks to be mostly black Lab with a little herding type mixed in !! This dog is growing so fast that he can’t keep up with his feet and he just has to keep trying the cats each day. You just don’t know when things might change , you know? Nope it didn’t change today and Bubba got his nose smacked again ! I mean when a cat is cleaning his self you don’t just go up and bite him on the tail ! Well you do if you are Bubba! I think he is going to be a slow learner ! He doesn’t understand why a cat doesn’t run when he charges them? They just look at him as if to say, “your not going to make me smack you again are you?” Most of the time they just give him a look and a flick of the tail and turn their back and walk away. These cats have learned that if you run then the dog chases and the chase is on for the rest of the day but if you don’t run and just quickly walk to a place where the dog can’t reach you, you are safe and the dog is flustered and going nuts for the rest of the day. Later you find them all laying around on the porch sleeping together. I just love this new little dog. He makes me laugh and shows me love by wanting to be near me ! My cats are too. I even love my chickens that come up and take banana pealings out of my hand. I wish I knew what they were saying with all their cooing and clucking ! Just my way of turning off at times. I give all my troubles to God and play with my animals and my new great grand son ! Peace and love my friends.

          • libertytrain

            Granny – lovely post.

        • Kate8

          Old H – “The war is not with flesh and blood, but with spirits and principalities…”

        • Bruce D.

          Fear is not always negative. Fear is an indication you should proceed with caution and rethink your position. It helps provide insight to the future which allows you to change course and take more responsible steps. Fear is only negative when it leads to inaction which then leads to stress.

          • granny mae

            I can agree with that !

    • Peter

      This is the most sensible article ever posted by John Myers.

  • Mick

    I know that I am off topic but I am sick and tired to constantly seing BigBadJohn lying through his teeth to try to influence the rest of us to his way of thinking, so I am posting this on every articles the personal Liberty puts out, if people don’t like it ………OH WELL.

    Mick says:
    March 30, 2011 at 6:20 am

    BigBadJohn says:
    March 29, 2011 at 10:53 am
    Here we go again….

    Old Henry

    Bush inherited a 100 billion dollar deficit and turned it into a 1.5 TRILLION dollar deficit – a 1500% increase.

    Obama inherited a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit and turned it into a 1.8 trillion dollar deficit. Approximately a 30% increase.

    Obama is not/has not been near as destructive as Bush and the republicans
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    OK BigBadJohn ! Why don’t you stop been a good lefty for once and start telling the truth, quit lying to try to prove a point.
    if people really want to know what’s going on with the Budget go to……..

    http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np

    The data for the total public debt outstanding is published each business day. If there is no debt value for the date(s) you requested, the value for the preceding business day will be displayed.

    ( Debt Held by the Public vs. Intragovernmental Holdings )

    Date Debt Held by the Public Intragovernmental Holdings Total Public Debt Outstanding

    Here are the treasury direct figures for when Bush took over UntilObama took over

    01/19/2001 5,727,776,738,304.64 Bush takes over

    8 YEARS

    01/20/2009 10,626,877,048,913.08 Obama take over

    Now from January 20 2009 and present time under Obama

    01/20/2009 10,626,877,048,913.08 Jan 20, 2009

    2 YEARS , 2 month and 8 days, Damn it people start doing the math and begin to see clearly.

    03/28/2011 14,211,567,662,931.23 march 28, 2011

    For people interested at seing the daily report on OUR DEBT I would suggest that you go and (I repeat) to the TREASURY DIRECT site, punch in the dates you want to verify and it will give you the debt to the penny,may I also suggest you forward this site to many of your friends and family regardless of their party affiliation, some of them just might wake the hell up.
    Have a good day…

    • Richard

      Good post Mick,
      unreal the way Bush ruined our country with unnecessary war and the bailouts for his Wall Street family.
      Obama just continues it.
      Those figures are public debt. The aforementioned budget deficit is not the same thing.

      • Robert D

        $ 14,211,567,662,931.23 in Debt?

        I do not care if it was Bush, Obama, or anyone else. This is a rediculous amount of money and the reason our country and our way of lives are at great risk.

        down with the elected dictators (.ak.a. Liars & Theives) in Washington. That debt should not be even 10% of what it is. The overspending in Washington in an attempt to control our lives (both dems & repubs are guilty) has got to stop.

        Time to balance the budget, cut all departments budgets in half, and do away with all subsidies.

        Boehner needs to do more (grow some balls and Reid just needs to go out take a long walk off a short pier as do 90% of washington.

        Yep! I am pi$$ed off about the situation uninformed voting has gotten this country into.

        One last thought, we need more freshman congressmen elected who do not know the current rules of the house so they can be ignored for the most part to get the things done in washington that should have never came to be.

        Vote for The Donald!!

        • Mick

          Robert..
          Just posted the deficit to try to wake the society up and yes it is an outrageous amount of money,,,
          As for the Donald,iam not sure but the way he talk,I would consider it,,,,,,,

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Mick,
            Remember, The Donald is doing good NOW, but he has also gone bankrupt twice as well!!! sorry to add to your stress!!!

          • Jay

            Could he be our Saviour!!!

          • granny mae

            I heard a gal from the Tea Party group say today that all they were requesting from congress was that they eliminate 2.4 cents on every dollar in the budget and they would be satisfied! Sounded reasonable to me ! I know they could find that much waste in the budget if they just looked ! As for Donald ! I’m listening and giving him some thought but won’t make up my mind till later. One thing I am sure of , who ever I vote for their name won’t be Obama ! It is past time to get the commie liar’s out of Washington! I don’t care what their party affiliation is !

        • DaveH

          Cut departments in half? How about flat out eliminating many of them? Like the Department of Education. What a huge conflict of interest it is to have the Federal Government involved in the education of our children. Talk about an invitation to propagandize our children to the joys of Big Government.
          Like the Department of Energy. It was created during Jimmy Carter’s years with the goal of making the US energy independent. Are we there yet? What a joke. Remember the Jimmy Carter years? Gas lines, sporadic disruptions in the energy markets? Remember the vast array of alternative energy schemes they tried to get the public to voluntarily accept? Then when people didn’t do it voluntarily Government subsidized economically unviable things with taxpayer money, such as the gharish wind-generators that dot our landscapes these days. Then they came up with the greatest scam of all to force us to buy the uneconomical alternative energy schemes (the Anthropomophic Global Warming Hoax), as well as enriching their crony capitalist buddies.
          And many of the Government agencies are flat out Unconstitutional. The Federal Government just has no powers under the Constitution to meddle in many of the areas they meddle in (such as the Drug Wars).

          • Jay

            You said a moth full DaveH. People need to keep in mind that Government and Government workers are wealth consumers, they generate zero income.

      • always right

        Dear 2 stooges. The president doesn’t create the budget. The house and senate do. During the bOoSh years those were controlled by demoncraps. You two and your ilk own that debt and this one, right up to the current budget. Nice try though…

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          ar:

          What? You say the democrats controlled the Congress during the Bush years and then blame the deficit on the Republicans?

          The Republicans had both huses of congress during Bush’s first six years in office. The democraps had both houses for the last two years.

          Def Fuhrer was in the Senate from 2005 to 2008 and voted for the over-spending of Bush and stated it was not enough.

          • Jay

            Old Henry, so typical of the far left to purposely misrepresent history?

            Did you know that they say this little prayer every morning when they get up, and every night before they go to sleep;”He who controls the past controls the future…He who controls the present controls the past”

            And they say they are not religious!

    • JIBBS

      DORK< go troll somewhere else, tired of your [offensive word removed].

    • Cawmun Cents

      cut and pasted this….because it raised some good points!
      Ah – the Bush inheritances.. Many, 9/11, Katrina, etc., will be mentioned in this thread. Heck, Brokaw still probably believes that Bush created/or caused Katrina to happen – and/or like his successor and equally pathetic NBC Nightly News Anchor, that Bush hates black people.

      Other inheritances. Well, right out of the starting block, he inherited an on-going game of cat an mouse in the skies over the coast of China – Clinton had been warned that it was getting dicey, and sure enough, soon enough one of our spy planes collided with one of their less talented fighter jet boys, and a darn hostage situation arose. Our true to form MSM didn’t miss a beat – they were already experienced in dealing with Republican presidents – there was no history in place, from the previous administration, that will be mentioned again. Everything bad from this point on, would be created/caused by the new president. This MO will reverse as soon as the next Democratic president takes his seat – you see.

      Bush inherited the fallout from the collapse of the DotCom bubble in March of 2000. Results – a recession and a quick return to massive federal (and state) deficits. You see – $trillion in predicted federal tax receipts dried up with that collapse.

      Bush inherited a military – devoid of parts, supply, and soon to be needed modern battle ready equipment to protect our troops from what else he inherited..

      9/11.

      Bush inherited a dangerous housing bubble, born of Clinton and Andrew Cuomo’s HUD. We know how that ended up. That ole Clinton, man of many bubbles. Oh yea – and that there deregulation of Clinton’s.

      Bush inherited a historic spiraling out-of-control HIV/Aids and malaria pandemic in Africa and other 3rd world countries. Unlike his predecessor, he would propose, submit, get passed, implement, and complete on schedule and on budget while meeting/exceeding all of his goals in saving perhaps millions of lives and in preventing the spread of HIV/Aids to many millions more. The left is outraged here, that Obama is not filling the over-sized shoes that Bush left behind for him to step into.

      He also inherited the aftermath in Africa of the most deadly conflict since WWII – in the DR Congo. Following Clinton’s promise to the Rwandans, next door, some 3 1/2 million human beings would die – many in genocide – by the time Clinton ran out the door saying, “aye, I was great, wasn’t I?”

      Speaking of Africa – he’d inherited a uprising in Liberia – shut that down very quickly (Bush is a hero down there), and the aftermath of the conflicts in the Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone, and a rebirth of the ages old conflict in the Sudan. The MSM which had looked the other way during the Rwandan and the DR Congo conflicts – doing their best to protect Clinton’s legacy, would be quick out of the starting gates to challenge Bush to do more in Darfur.

      Down in South America, Bush inherited a terrible crisis in Colombia. Here however, Clinton had just put in motion a $5 billion Plan Colombia mostly disguised as a drug war, but just as serious in providing military aid to defeat the leftist rebels who’d been blowing up oil facilities for the past decade and taking Americans hostage (over 100 in captivity when Bush came in). Bush took control, beefed up some of the plan – to the horror of the MSM and the left – and by time Bush left office, Colombia had returned to normal, and Al Gore’s old buddies Occidental Pet, had pulled out.

      Also along the way, during the Clinton years, someone running the ship in Washington had not done their job when a “humanitarian” (not the first one I mentioned here) crisis was unfolding in Afghanistan as the radical Taliban seized control of this once proud country in the mid-90′s, and subsequently giving a home to al Qaeda, so that they could plan 9/11. We’ve mentioned that before.

      Not to be outdone, in the humanitarian crisis area, N. Korea was still reeling from the 2 million of it’s citizens who had died during the late 90′s famine, while it was reneging on it’s agreement with Clinton, to abandon it’s nuclear bomb program.

      There was more.

      Ain’t it just amazing that a national news anchor who’d sit there as all of these events unfolded, and not recall any of them.

      Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffrey-dickens/2011/03/29/brokaw-feels-obama-no-president-my-adult-lifetime-has-had-face-so-#ixzz1I6fbHB8B

    • Bruce D.

      Mick, I have done similar posts several times. Who spent what is something both left and right should be able to agree upon because it is in black and white. But Jovianus or some other leftest will post soon trying to put some kind of a spin on it. They can’t even agree to let the facts speak for themselves.

    • Kate8

      Mick There is a great way to keep the liberal posts from getting to you: don’t read them.

      I finally quit, and I enjoy this site a lot more!

      You’ll never be able to influence their thinking, and they say things just to provoke the rest of us. I just gave up on them. They aren’t worth the aggravation.

      • Jay

        Also, don’t respond to them!

      • Vigilant

        Actually, reading the posts of Jovi Anus, jopa, Robert Smith, Eric Bischoff and other lefties can be stress-relieving exercise. Some of my biggest chuckles come from the futile efforts of the lefties to sway opinion with unsubstantiated assertions and outright lies. And then, when faced with incontrovertible facts, they scurry away from the forum without leaving a response.

        • Jay

          You got it Vigilant, especially the part where they scurry away from the truth. I’ve noticed that time and again. But its obvious why they are here, and that is to slander the truth and demonize anyone who embraces and speaks the truth! Pathetic little trolls!

    • Mike in MI

      Mick -
      Do you ever get the feeling that “BigBadJohn” is actually just a full Port-a-Potty that’s been sitting out in the hot sun for two weeks – unattended and has…shall we say…”taken on a life of its own”?

      • granny mae

        Mike in MI,

        LOL ! That was a good one but my imagination is too good to be reading too many responses like that !!!! LOL ! Whew !

  • http://www.ablingthedisabled.com Fantastic Frank

    Hey its about the money, there is nothing backing it. Its not OBAMA’S fault or BUSH’S fault they are just the persons who we can look to complain to about the current state of affairs.. They have just been pasties for not doing the right thing…just look art history it’s pretty clear to me what will happen.. Stop complaining about who is at fault and do something constructive to protect your self.
    Get informed not pointing fingers at the people who you think are causing us the problems. Do something different.

    LOVE

    FF
    .

    • karolyn

      Right. I would like to see many of these people who bash everybody get i there and do a better job. I simply cannot agree with those who say that Obama is out to destroy the country. That is totally baselss and ridiculous. I have never been a basher. The worst I ever said about Bush was to call him “Shrub.” All of the bashing comes from fear. Anger comes from fear. Why are so many people so fearful?

      • bob wire

        It’s part of the process and programming Karolyn, to demonize, debase and devalue.

        No more complicated then that. ~

        In the process of exposing yourself to the sick, try not to become infected by this sickness yourself.

        The wealthy are very cleaver people and understand human nature and the beast that lives inside all men. They appeal and exploit this human weakness in those that harbor a predisposition, the most willing and call it a TEA PARTY under a banner on NOBLE ideas that few could disagree.

        They attack “O” and anything connected with “O”, even you and I!

        We are left with three choices, ignore them, join them or defend.

        I choice the latter, when it’s possible and find the humor in the rest.

        The Tea Party is selling one thing while delivering something else.

        The same old GOP, nothing new except the labels.

        Hang tough Girl! It’s all going to work out fine, one way or another.

        • Robert D

          You agree with her about bashing and then bash the Tea Party. How about the unions, etc. that alterior motives and back the Tax & Spend dems.

          • bob wire

            I do not “BASH” and if you can’t see that is so, neither will you see other truths.

          • Jay

            RobertD, Karolyn and Bobwire are the two biggest bashers here!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            bob
            It’s hard to see your truth when it is so cleverly disguised as LIES!!!

          • Karolyn

            bob wire – I don’t get it. I guess their minds just work differently. I know you’re not a basher, and I’m not either. Most of your posts are very on the mark, if a bit esoteric. I don’t call people names and tell them to go somewhere else or say mean things. THAT’S SCARY!

          • Jay

            Joe H, we should also be aware that these bashing left wing subverts that insinuate themselves in conservative blogs such as this one, are affiliates of moveon.org. A left wing organization that engages in gorilla style campaign tactics. Their main goal is to subvert and slander any good thing coming from the right! Have you noticed how Karolyn and bob wire never have one good thing to say about the right!

        • Jay

          You don’t really believe that do you, Bob wire?

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Karolyn:

        Some people PAY ATTENTION to what is going on and add up the pieces. Look at Little Barry’s past, at least what is not kept hidden, and it is not a good picture.

        Ask yourself why he has spent upwards of 2 MILLION dollars, some of it our tax money, keeping EVERYTHING secret. No one does that unless there is something to hide.

        He does nothing in / with Lybia until the U.N. tells him to. His first act was to fly around the world, at our expense, and trash our country in front of our enemies. That alone should have put him on the end of a short rope.

        Did the wagon hit a bump? Grow a spine Karolyn and believe in something. I beat up on Bushy a lot, but did not have “blogs” to do so.

        • JUKEBOX

          It appears to me that every action Obama takes seems to exacerbate whatever problem he is trying to remedy. My main fear is that he will side with his Muslim friends, and thereby unleash Armageddon from the Israeli people. They have been extremely peaceful, considering the pressure they have been under, and you can only push a nation so far before they react.

        • Robert D

          I am not a birther, but where is the Obominators B.C.? Hawaii has still not found it.

          • Robert D

            and if you reply, ‘he has shown it’, that is BS. He has only shown one that anyone could forge with a good printer and photoshop. Where is the long form?

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Robert:

            They are looking on the wrong continent.

          • Vicki

            “I am not a birther, but where is the Obominators B.C.? Hawaii has still not found it.”

            Robert, you can not show what does not (yet) exist. Takes time and practice to age the forgery enough that it is undetectable.

          • JUKEBOX

            Quit worrying about the BC, we will never see the real thing. Start asking for the passport from when he came back from Indonesia, the court papers reversing his Indonesian adoption, and the court order to change his name from Barry Soetoro to Barak Hussein Obama, JR.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            JUKEBOX:

            Good points all. Ys spose the BC issue is the old bait and switch to keep “us” busy on that rather than the issues you brought up?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Robert D,
            I think that question was answered earlier. It’s securely locked up in Kenya!!!!

          • Kate8

            Old H – I have no doubt that bait and switch is part of it. We need to be watching what the left hand is doing.

            Nevertheless, he should not be able to get by with sealing his records. No one else would.

            We need to stand watch on all fronts. We’ve neglected this for too long. That’s what got us here.

          • granny mae

            Y’all are right on in this matter. We should keep hollering about it long and loud till they have to produce to shut us up and we should look to see just who it was that bought off all these judges that keep saying you have no standing ! Somebody got to them or they are lefties rulling from their beliefs and not from the law !

      • 45caliber

        karolyn:

        It’s like watching a horror movie – people like to scare themselves. So when the media starts hinting at some crisis, the people hang on every word as if it is their last.

        Personally, I’ve always thought that horror stories were the ultimate comedy. I’ve even been kicked out of a theator for laughing too hard during the ‘intense’ scenes.

        • Carlucci

          If you have ever listened carefully to the “news” from the national and local lame stream media hacks, notice how they will say nebulous things like “it may happen”, or “the situation could get worse”, or “the hurricane is predicted to head in our direction”, etc. (Never mind that hurricanes are famous for turning around or just plain petering out before they make it to their alleged destination). I’ve mentioned on this blog that the local t.v. stations freaked people out in my city in 2005 on hurricane reporting. People packed the roads and freeways trying to get out of town before hurricanes Katrina and Rita were supposed to hit and devastate the city. Neither storm made it here because they both turned around. Yet, people died from the heat sitting on the freeways that had turned into parking lots.

          Many people watch too much t.v. and are way too dependent on the “news”. The article is correct – most of what is presented in the “news” is toxic and negative, and can make people feel tense at best, and freak out at worst.

          • Kate8

            Carlucci – You are so right. The media loves to make everything into a “possible” crisis.

            I’ve noticed for years that every season, it is either too much rain and might cause flooding (or a possible dam break), or too little rain (rain this week, but will it be enough?), too hot, too cold, too this and too that. And let’s not forget global cooling, global warming, ozone holes, el ninos and el ninas.

            There’s an oil crisis, and economic crisis, a population crisis, terrorist threats, Congress, Obama…

            And then there’s the bugs, the germs, the diseases, the food, the water, the air, the carpet, the lightbulbs, the microwaves, plastic…living is just not safe!

            If none of these things manage to get you, the stressing over them will!

          • Carlucci

            Kate8 -

            And have you ever noticed how the lame stream media reports how dismally the retail outlets allegedly did after Christmas? This nonsense has been going on for as long as I can remember. The major retailers reported sales were down! They just never made enough money -!! Boohoo, boohoo…..what a diaper load. I guess that explains the packed malls and shopping centers I always saw right before Christmas.

            Of course now they never report the online sales. You know those are kicking butt, because many brick and mortar retail stores have closed. Remember the Bombay Company? They are selling their merchandise online and on QVC.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Looks like they have job security.

        • Carlucci

          What horror movies were you watching that were hilarious?

          My mom and I were watching Mel Brooks’ “Dracula – Dead and Loving it” the other day. We couldn’t stop laughing.

          • 45caliber

            I like that one and have it on cd. However any horror movie that has some being in it that no one can avoid or kill is funny to me. They used to make a lot of those. Freddy, the chainsaw guy, those are all funny to me. The one I got kicked out of had some invisible brains that were taking over people. Even my girlfriend thought I should be kicked out when the usher asked me to leave. I sat out in the front until the movie was over so she could see the end of it. The movie manager appologised to me and agreed it was silly. I love the old ones like Frankenstein or Dracula. Wolfman is particularly funny to me.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            45:

            Kinda like being sent to the Principal’s office! Did the usher hit the back of your hand with a ruler?

            Have you ever seen “Jessie James Meets Frankenstein”? I watched that one a loooong time ago late at night on, I think, AMC.

          • Carlucci

            Yes, it is funny how the “victims” can never run fast enough to get away. That is what is so comical about the “Scary Movie” flicks.

            But I have to admit that Bela Lugosi’s Dracula did scare me, as he could turn himself into a vapor, or bat. But I must say that Frank Langella sure made a very sexy “Dracul”.

          • Cawmun Cents

            For me growing up in the northern California area in the late 60′s,it was always Christopher Lee that was the best Dracula.Bob Wilkins and the Creature Feature had his movies on perenially.To me Lee always looked the part of the legendary Vlad Tepes 1431-1476,or his nickname,Dracul.By the way he wasnt a Count he was a King.If you compare likenesses,Lee wins hands down.No other actor,not even the Hungarian Bela Lugosi,looks as much like Vlad as Lee.He also hated Muslims,and persecuted them to the fullest extent.Maybe he knew something our leaders havent figured out yet?But what do I know?…Apparently very little.

      • Busman

        You karolyn are what Obama lives for. You are the proverbial useful idiot. Too blind to see the truth right in front of your face. Obama is a commie Period.

      • DaveH

        He’s out to purposely destroy our economy, or redistribute the wealth covertly, or he’s just plain clueless. Those who follow him are mostly those who hope to share in the wealth of other peoples’ money, or are already sharing other peoples’ money.
        I can’t believe so many people can’t catch on to the fact that Politicians have a built-in incentive to grow Government, thus their power and perks at the citizens’ expense. Thomas Jefferson knew that hundreds of years ago.
        And, Karolyn, quit complaining about our complaining. Go stick you head under a rock and chant “I wish I was in Kansas”.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          DaveH,
          no, rub a bald persons head and chant “I wish Spanky was a monkey! I wish Spanky was a monkey!” That’ll do it!!! LOL!!

      • Cawmun Cents

        No,bob wire and karolyn,it is about hoping that eventually someone with the brass tacks to do something will be put into a postion of power.Someone whos agenda is to work for us all,yet not try to lead us into socialism.The last three or four people to inhabit the Ivy League Academics Home for Disturbed Progressive Liberals (or what we used to call the Whitehouse)consisted of whimpy,lecherous idolater,son of whimpy,and see how awesome I look out here on the golf course.What we need is I am for America and not my own agenda,to arrive and be recognized.

      • Bruce D.

        Karolyn because to do not bother to look you do not see or understand. Obama appoints and surrounds himself with Marxists. You like Marxism in the form of Progressivism so you are just as ideologically destructive as Obama but you do not have the power to effect change like he does. The progressive ideology of the left has hurt poor people by enabling them to feel confortable with failure. The left offer no insentives to do better or be better. The incentives they offer has the opposite effect.

        • Kate8

          Bruce D. – Very well put!

          Libs seem to think that if they close their eyes to the truth, it won’t be the truth. Truth has many layers, each common to its own reality. They are denying the obvious out of fear.

          Funny thing. Since many of them have gained value from AA, they forget about step 1. You must first acknowledge that there is a problem. As long as you refuse to admit there is one, you can’t do anything to remedy it.

          • Bruce D.

            Thanks Kate8. The ideology of the left evolves around using other peoples money. Their thought process seems to stop there. If they can’t get their hands on other people money they are lost as to what to do or what course to take.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      FF:

      There is something called the VETO.

      Who loves ya baby?
      Peace
      Love
      Dove

      • Carlucci

        Old Henry – Remember “Peace, Love, Dove….and Bobby Sherman!!”??

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Damn it Carlucci! I almost slipped off my walker!

          • Carlucci

            I’m sorry, O.H. I just couldn’t help it – that came to mind when I saw your “Peace, Love, Dove” closing.

            I was trying to remember who did the P,L,D, and Bobby Sherman! thing.
            Was it Cheech & Chong or the Firesign Theatre? For some reason I think it was Cheech and Chong…

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Mrs. C:

            I cannot remember to be honest. If I had to guess it would be C & C.
            Watch out where the huskies go. Don’t you eat that yellow snow.

            I’m gonna put some of that sticky tape on my walker….

        • Eddie47d

          Just heard Bobby Sherman on the radio direct from Dotham Alabama. He sang Julie,Julie,Julie Do You Love Me. The skirts sure drooled over him and every generation has their favorite girl/guy.

          • Carlucci

            OMG – !! I haven’t thought about that in so long…I loved that song!

            Thanks, Eddie. You and Old Henry made my day.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            I think you will find that is Dothan Ala. Right outside Ft Rucker. I took my aircraft mechanics school there in the Army!!

      • Kate8

        Old H – You are on a roll today! LOL.

        Thanks for the smiles.

        • JeffH

          Kate8, seems OH is on a roll every day…right about the smiles too.

    • 45caliber

      FF:

      I’ve always wondered if Douglas Adams (wrote ‘The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Universe’) was right when he commented that the President’s sole job was to distract everyone from what the legislature is doing.

      • Cawmun Cents

        Actually…it is both the legislatures job and the Presidents job,to distract you from what his cabinet is doing.Seems we rarely check on those people,or even care to know much about them.

  • DJ Fisher

    Dear Mr Myers,
    I have been trying to start up a business of selling quality gas masks and protective devices at below normal retail because i have a low overhead. If what happened in Japan where the only thing going on on a global scale I could possibly see a reason for your attitude. But from my experience people wait till the last minute and like you say there is nothing to worry about. The scouts motto is “Be Prepared” but maybe persons like yourself don’t believe in that any more. If you look at everything that is going on and put the pieces together it tells us one thing, every other power in the world wants the USA for it’s resources. The banksters want only a half billion people on the whole planet because of environmental concerns. And the muslims want the whole world under THEIR law. With an administration that is working for the globalists and nature itself taking it’s wrath out on us, are you sure you want to be so cavalier about things like being able to breath and not glowinig in the dark? People like you are what caused my business to never take off when all I wanted was to save life and keep people from suffering. Thanks.

    • 45caliber

      Perhaps you should start a scare yourself.

      Take sodium chloride for instance. Sodium will explode when tossed into water. Chorine will poison you – in fact, it was the “mustard gas” that killed so many soldiers in WWI. And it is in everything! Some foods have large amounts of it. It is in water sometimes so strongly that you can’t even drink it. Yet some folks feed it to themselves! You need to insist that it is poisonous (it is) and that you have the perfect way to get rid of it. (Drink LOTS of water!) You should sell a lot of things that way.

      • Carlucci

        Yep. Splenda is made from a chlorine molecule.

      • Vicki

        Or he could warn people about Dihydrogen Monoxide. Big killer of people. I think you need scuba gear rather than a gas mask to protect you from its aerosol or gaseous forms. Gas masks can however protect you from its liquid form if used with proper attachments.

      • JC

        And don’t forget Aspertame, which is a by product of aluminum manufacturing. mmmmmYummy!

    • Cawmun Cents

      What kind of Protective devices do you sell?Do you sell (SAR),(SCBA),(PAPR),(APR)?What is the APF of the masks in Question?Are there particulate filters or cartridge/cannister?Do you offer combination devices?Are any of those you have Entry and Escape?What color are the cartriges you offer,and what are the sorbents properties?What are the particular masks maximun use limits?Are they easily compromised?Are any approved for(IDLH)?ARE THEY POSITIVE PRESSURE AIRFLOW OR NEGATIVE PRESSURE AIR FLOW?Please respond as I am curious how you came upon masks that you can sell cheaper than MFG retail.Are you a reputable dealer?

  • bob wire

    People fear because they perceive a potential loss, health, money,love ,property, life.

    If I had investments that I could take 20% of and reinvest I might share your fears.

    As it stands, we share little in common and I’m fearless in money matters, I simply don’t have it.

    There is always someone, something out there attempting to worry us to dead. Maybe it’s the State Licensing & Regulation Board, the IRS, the DPS,that sorry piece of crap your daughter is seeing,the neighbors dog that’s howled since they brought the little ba$tard home 12 years ago, your buddy that’s dieing of prostrate cancer and enduring his daily treatments, your friend that fighting to stop foreclose of his home. There is no end to it all.

    I’m finding out this morning that my favorite TV series “Lights Out” is being dropped for poor rating! It’s without a doubt one of the best one hour dramas on TV viewing today. I’m pis$$ed! (it’s about a boxing champ and his fight to please everyone)

    Drama to the right of me, drama to the left of me!

    Coping skills, Sand box 101 and anger management is not for Sissy’s.

    If you are sitting on some serious loot, I should be worried?

    • http://wwwroyaltoypoodle.com maxi

      the reason for most fear has been stated= Media Hype. I notice that in cases they tend to blow a lot out of proportion. I think overall we have a lot to fear but can control little of it. We are in a bad financial state, We are in a bad state of Government affairs unless you appreciate you life totally controlled which I don’t. I liked America the Land of the FREE! We are in a glommy medical state – I don’t want the government involved any more than necessary in my medical care. I have serious problems as I am a Senior and I would not appreciate hearing I can’t get the care I need. I am not dying yet by the way. You tend to hear that with Hospice but I am not there yet. When hurricanes and disaster strikes sometimes the media blows that out of proportion. They cause damage but buildings can be fixed dead people can’t. It is still good we have global news but don’t be so quick to panic. Like the article says think about the information. If the Nuclear problem was so bad more Japanese would be dying like flies than the Americans many miles away.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Maxi:

        For almost 40 years now I have lived by the motto:

        Media says BAD – GOOD
        Media says GOOD = Bad

        They are one of the best reverse barometers in the world.

        • Carlucci

          You got it.

      • 45caliber

        I always love it when the media says something like: “The world will end at 9:00 pm. Details at 10.”

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Follwed by “News at 11″.

      • Kate8

        maxi – When I find myself worrying about things that haven’t happened yet, I remind myself that right now, today, everything is fine. I have a roof over my head, food in the fridge, my family’s all around, and I’m feeling good.

        Yeshua said we should give no thought to tomorrow, as today has enough of its own stuff to deal with.

        Why is it that we always have more faith that things will get worse rather than better? If they do, they do. Meanwhile, let’s enjoy the good stuff while we can.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      A little FDR (Facsist Democrat Reprobate) here:

      There is nothing to feee ear, but Obama itself.

  • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

    Good article Mr. Myers. We do, as a whole, worry too much about things we cannot control.

    As that prayer goes:
    Dear Lord,
    Help me change the things I can, the strength to not worry about those I cannot, and the wisdom to know the difference.
    Amen

    • 45caliber

      The problem is that most people don’t have (or use) that wisdom.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Yep 45, sometimes I slip off the wagon (haven’t gone under the wheels yet), but as you point out most never even get in the driver’s seat.

        There are, or so it seems, so few of us.

        • 45caliber

          My wife swears that I don’t worry enough. Once she was raving about some minor thing and wanted to know why I wasn’t worried about it. I told her that 1) it wasn’t worth worrying about because if it went one way it was good and if it went the other way it would cost us about $50 and 2) I had a lot of more important things to worry about such as where my next paycheck was coming from so I didn’t need to waste my time on minor stuff.

          She wasn’t happy with me.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            And she put her hands on her hips and said: “I’m not happy”. And you said: “Well then, which one are you”? That’s when the fight started….

            My wife just swears AT me…

    • John Myers

      Dear Old Henry,
      That was the prayer my later mother use to always say. Thanks for sharing it.
      Best wishes,
      John

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Glad you enjoyed it John.
        The Lord moves in mysterious ways.

    • karolyn

      God, Grant me he serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference. (Many years in AA)

    • Vicki

      Old Henry writes:
      “Help me change the things I can, the strength to not worry about those I cannot, and the wisdom to know the difference.”

      AND the wisdom to NOT CHANGE things just because I can.

      Not everything that can be changed should be changed.

      • Jay

        Vicki, I think that response you meant for Karolyn, but your statement is true non the less!

        • vicki

          Old Henry wrote about it first farther up at March 30, 2011 at 8:42 am

  • JimH

    I guess the trick is to be able to sort out what is a percieved threat and what is a real threat. After that you can work on a solution to that threat.

    • Cawmun Cents

      While I agree with your sentiment,how does one go about sorting perceived from real?Do you lock your doors at night when you go to sleep? If you perceive that it is possible that someone could break into your house and try to rob you is that paranoia?Or is it understanding the possibility of a threat in that particular area and preparng yourself?Some of the threats that people ascertain in relation to posting on this thread are as real as the perceived threat that someone may abscond with an item like your car.Just because it is occuring on a scale that your mind cannot easily comprehend does not mean that a threat doesnt exist.Because of such perceptions of things too great to affect you on a personal scale are not worth worrying about,entire nations have been annhilated.Being aware of the dangers and communicating your concerns across a wide spectrum,has just become available to the general public within the last decade or so.So understandably there are instances of paranoia overwhelming the populace.But let that not be an excuse to quench our vigilance.It would be akin to going from one extreme to the other.Rather,let us celebrate the fact that we can impart our opine thusly,and cherish the fact that we can do so with relative impunity.Do not take for granted the freedom you now have to express yourself.And more importantly,do not quit communicating your opinions about events that happen on a scale that you believe you have no sway over.That is how many people loose the right to speak their minds to the few that would rather you didnt.

      • karolyn

        I believe the more you fear something, the more it is bound to happen. Just like the fearful person, head down, walking through the bad neighborhood who will get mugged before the person with head up and eyes straight ahead, walking with confidence. I have a friend who carries his gun when he walks in the woods behind his house and keeps one in his car, just in case. I think that’s ridiculous and that you’re just asking for trouble. The vibe you put out comes back to you.

        • 45caliber

          There is nothing wrong with taking steps to lower the possibility of problems. Such as saving money for a rainy day. Keeping your door locked at night in case someone comes snooping around. Carrying a gun in the woods (which can be a good idea in my area due to wild hogs). That doesn’t necessarily mean you are afraid; you are just taking logical steps to avoid trouble or minimize it. For instance, if I saw a wild hog I’d probably not try to shoot it; just fire a shot in the ground to scare it off. No fear involved.

          Real fear is in things like constantly worrying that you are going to catch cancer (like my sister who had a massive massectomy because she ‘might’ get breast cancer) or worrying about getting retirement when you work for the government.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Karolyn:

          I walk with my head down so I do not stumble….. and discharge my weapon.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Old Henry,
            I never walk with more confidence than when I have my friendly little 9 with me!!!

        • Cawmun Cents

          Its not about fear karolyn,it is about awareness.When you watch Mutual of Omahas’ Wild Kingdom,does the leopard kill the most aware gazelle?Does the lion run down the strongset zebra?Does the crocodile capture the most wily wildebeast?No.The ones that are wary of the danger survive.The ones who non-chalantly go through their exsistence with abandon,are eaten.Wariness does not equate to fear.Nor does meekness portend weakness.It is in the eye of the attacker that we find out whether we are worth his gamble.If you go through life thinking you are going to be okay,might you survive as well as the prepared?Possibly.But do you ridicule the prepared in lew of seeing any danger?Not if you are intelligent.

          • Jay

            Good one, Cawmun Cents, I very much doubt she will get it!

      • 45caliber

        A good example: the radiation in Japan.

        It will either reach the U.S. or it won’t. It it doesn’t, why worry about it? If it does, it will either be too minor to do any damage or it won’t. If it is minor, why worry about it? If it does damage, there isn’t a darn thing you or I can do about it so why worry about it?

        If you check with experts, they will tell you that the real chance of anthing strong enough to do any damage is so small that you’d have a better chance winning the lottery. So why is everyone getting excited about it?

      • JimH

        Cents, That IS the tricky part, to diferentiate between the two. I do lock the house and I don’t leave the keys in the car out of fear, it’s so the thief who may or may not come has to work for it.

  • 45caliber

    The media sells fear. If they can scare you, you will watch them more to see any further dangers. So they try to make any hint of a problem into a major catastrophy.

    When you hear of some problem, use a little common sense. At least investigate further. The Houston Chronicle ran a couple of articles about the dangers after asking a radiation expert. He basically told them that they had more problems with radiation when they got a dental X-ray. I posted the location but I’ll bet not a half dozen people bothered to look.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      45:

      This if off-topic, but:

      Yesterday you posted in the ALA article, I believe, that you had a 63 Galaxie as your first car and it had the biggest motor available.

      Was it a 63 with a 406 tri-ower, or a 63-1/2 with the 427 dual quad? The mileage yo mentioned seemed hard to accept for me.

      • 45caliber

        I believe it was the 406. But the milage was there. The real problem I had with it was that when it was above 200,000 miles, the more compression I put on it the more it blew the oil out the dipstick tube. But it was a very good engine. I ran it dry of water for over 30 miles without it seizing and I ran out of oil (blew it out) and ran it for nearly fifty without a problem. (I was running through the Ozarks at about 2 im the morning. No one was open.) And it would do 210 down the freeway and drove smooth doing it. It would peg the speedometer past 180 but we clocked it against the milage signs to determine the speed. I never got a speeding ticket because I suspected the cops didn’t want to bother chasing me. But there is no way you could do that today! Too many cars on the road!

      • 45caliber

        Come to think of it, I believe it was a 396 or 397. Anyway, it was the biggest motor Ford had for that car at the time. You could buy larger engines but they didn’t come in it. I had a friend put a Caddy V-12 in an old Buick. We never figured out the speed but it could turn it on.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          The biggest engine Ford had in 63… was actually two.

          At the start of the model year the 406 tri-power was used in the ‘Notch-back”. That engine was a carry-over from 62. In December of 63 they came out with the 63-1/2. It was the fastback. The 406 was dropped and the 427 dual quad was introduced. This body style and engine combo cleaned up in NASCAR and on the drag strip.

          The 406 was a good engine, but had a weak bottom end. They blew up a lot of them in 62 on the NASCAR tracks. I am surprised you got over 100,000 on it let alone 200,000. Sounds like you might have had some broken cylinder rings.

          I had a 63-1/2 Galaxie XL with the 390 and 4 speed. I rebuilt the engine using 390, 427 and 428 parts. Put a 391 ring and pinion in the 9″ rear end. I then put tuned Hooker headers on it. The top end wasn’t there, but it ran like stink from a start.

          The car you had would be worth some serious $ right now.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          45caliber,
          couldn’t have been a 396 as that was a chevy motor!! probably a 409 or a 428!

          • JeffH

            Joe H, chevy had the 348/409 from 1958-1965

            Ford’s big block FE’s were the 361/360/390/406/410/427/427SOHC/428 and also the 429/429BOSS semi-hemi and the truck motors 460/370

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            Chevy chevelle was a 396 v-8 and a dam good engine as long as you took care of the oil!!

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    i am not afraid of anything if you are fighting in a war you are tooscared to fear anything i have survived cancer.

    • Thamera

      congratulations Sean, sincerely.

    • karolyn

      Good for you Sean! I had a cousin who won that war, and because it taught him to value life so much, he lived a better, happier life the rest of his days than most people live in a lifetime. Unfortunately, he contracted cancer again 10 years later and died, but what a 10 years he had! Fearless, happy, glowing!

    • 45caliber

      In a war, 90% of the soldiers are too scared to fight well. The other 10% don’t worry about it and do very well.

      Congrats on beating cancer. My brother recently did (liver transplant) so we are hoping there too. Incidently, his liver went bad due to taking tylonal every day. You might want to avoid it.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45caliber,
        i don’t worry about those things anymore! you breathe in worse things than tylenol everyday and I’m still kickin!

  • Thamera

    What is there to fear? Only losing our country, freedom and liberty. If you are not educated, if you are not aware of what your politicians/government are doing then we are most certainly at risk for having our country as we know it, taken away from us. History has proven time and time again that great empires rise and fall. Are we so arrogant to believe that we are immune to the same external and internal forces that could take down other great empires and civilizations? Study, read and be prepared; arm yourself with knowledge – then you have nothing to fear.

    • Vigilant

      “If you are not educated, if you are not aware of what your politicians/government are doing then we are most certainly at risk for having our country as we know it, taken away from us.”

      Too few people under 60 years of age are educated. Since the late 1960s, education has suffered tremendously as leftist programming has taken its place. Students are no longer allowed to think for themselves, and are spoon-fed the hatred of America, capitalism, and the sanctity of individual liberty. Those who espouse conservative viewpoints are marked down by their professors and/or shouted down by the radicals on campuses.

      Snipers from both the left and right have taken Jefferson, Franklin and Thomas Edison out of the history books, and the past is revised to promote a particular socialist agenda. Multiculturalist pap has replaced the true history of America and diluted the exceptionalism that marks our great nation.

      The real thinkers under 60 have taken an interest in politics/current events, have read unrevised source materials and have enough powers of logic to connect the dots.

      • Thamera

        I agree with you completely, so when I was teaching high school, we would read from the original works of Jefferson, Swift, Thoreau, Plato, Emerson, just to name a few. Textbooks were not allowed. I always told my students that I was more interested in their own thoughts than simply regurgitating something they had learned through a text book or heard on the news. We studied propaganda extensively and I tried to teach the importance of decimating information through critical thinking and doing your own research.

        • 45caliber

          Thamera:

          You were the type of teacher all teachers need to be.

          A true (and bad) story:

          A young friend of mine discovered that her history book at school was wrong on an item. When she brought it to the attention of teacher, the teacher told her, “It doesn’t matter wheither it is right or wrong. This is the way the government wants you to learn it. And it WILL be on the test this way!”

          • Kate8

            While trying to talk to my daughter’s fiance today, as he was lamenting the rising price of gas as all that goes with it (and blaming the wrong people), I tried explaining a few things to him about why all this is happening. But he couldn’t hear me, because he’s bought the liberal class-warfare line.

            It occurs to me that, as many of us were around during the cold war, and the push back against communism’s attempt to take over America back in the ’50s and ’60s, have much we could tell today’s generation about what’s transpired over the past decades. Things like, how they openly stated how they would conquer us from within: corrupt our morals, get rid of God, indoctrinate our children, eliminate the middle-class and incite class envy/warfare, etc. etc. Exactly what they’ve done.

            Sadly, even though many of this lived through those times, they will not listen to us. They refuse to look to history, and how this has always been the way of things because we don’t learn from the past.
            This is why they always have to wait 2 generations to wrest control from an ignorant people.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Thamera,
          did you or anyone else here see the kid on Glenn Beck today?? He was autistic and taught himself over night to write and read in braille. He is a math wiz and has a photographic memory!! his parents put up a braille alphabet in his room and by studying it over night, he learned to read and write in it! What a kid!! He proved, mathmatically, how one of the statements Glenn made was right!! This kid is amazing, I tell you!!

          • Kate8

            Joe H. – I did see that! Amazing!

            It seems that so many kids are normal, right up until they have a few series of vaccinations. Then, immediately after a round (usually sometime after a year) they stop talking and behave differently.

            What I found interesting is that, in spite of the attempts to damage our children by such means, there are kids like this boy who exhibit extraordiary intelligence and deductive ability.

            I hope his parents discover how to detoxify the mercury from his body, and reverse the effects (to a large extent) of the vaccine.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            Joe and kate8, I saw it too!__An Absolutely amazing boy of 12! I hope his parents continue their support, the child is truly blessed!

          • Vigilant

            The boy never got to tell us his two alternate theories of the genesis of the universe, which would have been interesting.

      • Cawmun Cents

        While I see the reasoning for you communicating your concern,the concern is invalid.Many of us”under 60″folks are well educated and have not been brain-washed by the marxist-liberal elite academics.I do agree however that these are growing to the number of few and far between.When your aim is to die with the most toys,you hardly need to educate your mind past,”hard work brings new toys”.Many of the under 60 crowd are impaired that way.Some of us harken back to the days when fair-minded folks were your basic communists.The notion of redistribution of wealth is not a new thing.Nor is the notion that praise should come not to the individual,but to the group.These are the same ways by which a group can have rights taken away.If you can only see it being fair to a group to praise.Then you can only see it as fair to agroup to punish.Does that make any sense to those of you out there who cant see the insidiousness of the agenda being brought forth?If an individual gets praise as an individual,then the individual should be punished as an individual.But the schools do not teach individualism any longer do they?No they teach that all should be praised,regardless of performance.So there are those of you who think you are educated out there who havent noticed this simple equasion.Those are the ones who think with the same mind as the people who use hive mentality.Because if you praise people as a group,then they should be punished as a group.Your rights,(with that type of thinking)get slowly legislted away,and you call it paranoia when somenoe raises an alarm about it.And still you let this type of teaching go on in your institutions,whether on a grade school or collegiate scale.And you are mystified when the youth of today,do not know much about what makes them Americans.You cannot conceive the fact that unions breed socialism on the macro and micro end of the spectrum.You only see it as rights to obtain fair treatment.But it is far deeper than even you educated folks over 60,who sat on your hands while it grew and manifested itself in the whole of society,can fathom.You let the snake into the hen house and branded the guard dogs who were barking,lunatics.The only other train of thought can be that the educated who are educating,are causing this by accident.Yes that is is merely bad fortune that our identity as Americans is slowly being stolen.It is not a socialist conspiracy to poison the minds of your chidren,but merely a by product of not having enough funds to properly supply the schools.Sound familiar?You over 60 people who claim education,and let the future slip through the cracks into obscurity might want to ponder how this could have happened under your watch.Yes…you are as culpable as the rest of us.

      • 45caliber

        I’m not sure if this is a duplicate message or not since my computer said it couldn’t handle the last one. So again…

        The Texas history book scandal that broke about six months ago was a farce. The conservatives (who won) insisted on keeping Jefferson and Franklin in the books. The libs wanted them removed to put in someone who invented the first fireman’s hat as being more important. Bet you didn’t hear that on TV.

        I’ve studied history for over 50 years now to determine what the book says happened vs. what really happened. There are a lot of differences even in our lifetimes. History is important since we need to know what mistakes were made so we won’t make them again. But when the books are changed, no one knows unless they do a lot of studying. I have more history books at home than any library in the area.

        • mike dunningham

          hi cal. good to read you as usual. did a copy on cc’s hive write and sent it to my son in bowen austrlia.thinking about history which is my fun also. speshilly things like the huge amount of archeological evidence we have from all over the world on someone such as jesus. talk about history and its meanderings and we have to look at the very fabric of our society.the example of jesus having huge amounts of histrical evidence ,both literal and architechural from every author of the era is a giggle but defines what we call history. also c.c is quite right in blaming my generation for its failings and i seriously take on board the responsibility to remain educated,that means taking advantage of the freedem we have and learn history freestyle.by seat of our pants without bias. i wrote a pome on this years ago which went

          Heed the truth seeker, the thinker and dreamer.
          What gauges his logic, the old or the new?
          Which forests does he walk, are they timeworn and dank
          Where the shadows hinder him, the wind seems a lament.
          Or does his spirit contest, resist the grey?
          To pursue afar the outer light.
          What gauge the truth, the old or new?

          our history is brand new today .right now ,this instant.the past is pure bias and shades of memory.do some serious study on jc, then sit down and make a cup of tea.the very least you will achieve is a merry discussion.live this moment if you can my friends because we are all a team here. what affects one so it does the other. if we look at life as brand new each day with wonderment with historys memory no longer the day we will survive as human. if we cannot achieve any more than what we have been taught to be then we will remain there. but remember please the truth is the truth regardless of our view.

          • Marty S.

            Good poem Mike. The truth shall set you free.

  • barbm

    i don’t give one darn what any of you say, i’ve been against nuclear power since the beginning and will NEVER change my mind. what a mess we’re leaving for our children, grandchildren, ad infinitum. there is really no safe way to store radioactive materials, some of which become innert almost immediately, some of which stay radioactive for over 10,000 years, and some of which will still glow for many milleniums. metal will eventually corrode, glass can break under pressure or movement, so what do we put it in for storage? and where do we store it that it won’t cost us a fortune to guard it from those who would use it for evil? gas and oil aren’t the answer either. we MUST invent new and better ways of using and storing renewable energy sources.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Barbm:

      “so what do we put it in for storage”?

      How about those styrophome containers at McDonalds that the enviros say will last for thousands of years in the landfills?

      Albore has invented the answer. Wind turbines and solar panels. They are the answer – he said so.

      How’s da weather down dere? Still in long pants, sweat shirt, flanel shirts here. Arrrrrgh! Global warming my sorry a…..

      • barbm

        those containers don’t react well to heat and break very easily. ever put one in the microwave? it was hot as blazes until a norther blew through yesterday. am in sweats today. of course, if it’s below 70, we bundle up. :) it’s 54 degrees at nearly noon. expected high today 73, tomorrow 85. yahoo. i hate cold. it’s not that i buy into gore’s global warming, but i think we should be responsible enough to leave as small a carbon footprint as possible on the earth. wind is working well here in texas. so well that we’re building more. there are areas in west tx where, no matter what side of a building you’re on, you can’t get away from it. and the sun shines hot as blazes almost every day here, so why not use solar panels? you can call me crazy if you want, but what happens to the earth when we’ve taken every bit of ore, gems, gas, oil, uranium, etc. out of it? what if we or generations to come need it some day? hear about all those sink holes swallowing homes, cars, and people? won’t the earth eventually start to collapse? who knows? but i don’t want to take any chances. whatever we do, we need to stop the nukes. the oil companies own a large portion of the world’s known uranium reserves, so let’s keep on supporting them. NOT!! did it ever occur to you folks that their lobbying is what has kept us from already coming up with better energy sources?

        • 45caliber

          barbm:

          It is 66 at my place right now and feels good. I live about 25 miles or so from you. But I wear a short sleeve shirt year around here. Enjoy the weather. It will get hot soon. In fact they are expecting it to be 80 before the end of this week here.

        • 45caliber

          barbm:

          If/when the day comes when we’ve taken out the last gem, oil, etc. from the earth humanity had better be on another world if we want to survive as a race. Refusing to take any out today to extend our time on earth is simply wrong since it won’t extend our time that much longer and will still mean humanity’s end if we don’t spread out.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            I think Barb is trying to say that we need to conserve and that is a good point. After all what is the root word of Conservative?

            What is the root word of Libertarian? Libera… Oh, oh…

        • 45caliber

          Solar panels – I knew I missed something.

          Solar panels are fine to use for additional energy. But it is basically useless for primary energy. For one, they take too much surface area. Put them on your roof to suppliment what you buy. But night, etc. will require another source.

          Incidently, were you one of the locals who are against building a new coal plant? If you are, make up your mind. Do you want nuclear energy or coal? Or do you prefer to sit in the dark?

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Another great advantage of soalr panels – they eliminate the need to replace your SHINGLES! Sh*t, now we got the the shingle lobbyists and the solar lobbyists at each other.

            Shouldn’t that be Nucler down there in TX?

          • barbm

            no, i did not fight the coal plant. but i’m very conservative when it comes to energy too. i stopped using my central air and bought window units for each room. if we aren’t in a room, we don’t cool it. my son pretty much lives in his room and i in mine with a quick meeting in the kitchen once a day. when my friends have $300 electric bills, mine is $87. i’m trying to save for a new tankless water heater which will save a bundle on water and electricity. my water bill this month was $12, so it’s not like we waste. i don’t do green stuff in the yard unless i can eat it or it’s fake. i also got rid of the dishwasher which is a money waster.

          • barbm

            perhaps you didn’t see that part where i mentioned that we’d be much further along on ways to make and STORE electricity if not for the lobbying efforts of oil companies. wouldn’t matter if it was dark or cloudy if we could store the excess from the day when most folks aren’t home to use it for use at night. and you still get ultra violet rays when it’s cloudy.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Barbm:

            Sounds like good reasoning. What is the pay-back on all the window units?

            I have often thought abut a tankless unit, but they are so expensive. My water is “free” as I have a well (but have to pay the elec to run the pump)

            I used to hear a tankless unit advertised on Rush. I think it was foreverhotwater.com

            My wife threatened to get rid of the dishwasher, but I groveled and whined. She took pity on me b/c she did not want me wandering the streets….

          • barbm

            you can pick one (tankless water heater) up on ebay for $200. don’t know how much they are to have installed. need a plumber and electrician for new wiring.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            45caliber,
            solar is ok for Arizona, Texas and the other sunshine type states. what good do they do up here in Ohio?? We have about an inch and a half of snow on everything right now that fell this afternoon! Cloudy all day. It’s like this about 4 1/2 months a year here. do we just sit in the dark for that period? Don’t forget even gas furnaces don’t run without electricity!! with the new scrubbers they put on the coal plants, they are very much cleaner than they once were. We have crap loads of natural gas. With the greenies, you can’t use hydro as some minnow might not survive, never mind HUMANS!!

          • libertytrain

            barbm – do more checking on those waterless heaters – when we looked into them about 2 years for area residents; they were saying that the folks that had them installed were not getting the kind of results they say these are supposed to get for you as far as savings, etc. So each had stories of no or limited success for their clients and the expense of the installation was what has kept it from being used by more “everyday” folks – whatever the unit cost I don’t recall -wasn’t terrible, but we had several installation quotes of over $1800-$2400. Perhaps something has improved in the last two years.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Barbm:

          “what happens to the earth when we’ve taken every bit of ore, gems, gas, oil, uranium, etc. out of it”?

          Yep, it’ll collapse like a balloon and shoot off into space.

          That wind of yours would REALLY irritate me. The sun I would love. I used to sit in the driveway with the mower runing, drink beer and throw those empty cartons under the mower. I pretended they were liberals….

          Back in the early 80s Reagan talked about developing alternative energy. You are right on about the lobbyists.

          Ya made me laugh when you siad it’s cold below 70! In April / May I can wear my cut-offs and anti Obama tees shirts in the high 50s, low 60s. Come Sept. / Oct. I am in long pants below 70.

          I like wearin those home made blue jean cut-offs. It makes people shake their heads at that old guy…. I look 45 (according to people I just meet) and feel 85.

        • Vicki

          Barbm writes about fears so silly as to be a perfect example for the article:
          “what happens to the earth when we’ve taken every bit of ore, gems, gas, oil, uranium, etc. out of it? ‘

          Nothing. We are not taking all that stuff to anther planet. It all stays here and gets recycled. It ALL gets recycled.

          • karolyn

            Not really.

          • Kate8

            Vicki – I totally agree. The Earth was created to be a renewable eco-system. God didn’t leave anything out or miscalculate our resources. We have been fed a pack of lies about the origin of many of our resources, and taught that they are not forever replenishing, when they really are.

            I always wonder about the “water shortage”, too. While we may have a problem with PURE water, due to man-made contamination, water is forever recycling. How can we run short?

            Sure, we have areas that get less rainfall, and cyclic droughts, but beyond that, I just don’t get it.

            It’s just more liberal propaganda that there isn’t ever enough, that we don’t live in an abundant world, that we have to do without so others can have some…yada yada yada.

            We need to be good stewards of our resources, but God intended for us to always be provided for. If we honor the Earth, she will honor us.

          • Vicki

            karolyn says:
            “Not really.”

            This from the “always positive person?” How liberal of you dear.

          • 45caliber

            It can get diffused to the point that it is basically impossible to recover. However, much of our existing industrial waste is recycled. A plant in Corpus Christi (ASARCO) recovers many metals from industrial waste – and the waste generally has a higher concentration of metals than the ore does. But it would take a LONG time to diffuse it all.

            Actually, we cannot expect to live on just this world forever. If we do, we die. All species must grow or die. Too many species are dying because they cannot grow. Things like tigers, elephants, lions, etc. The only reason we still have many species is that they are valuable to us. Elephants were a problem to natives in Africa so they killed them (poached) for ivory. Now in many places hunters (not from the US which banns it) pay thousands of dollars to the local tribes to hunt elephants. The poachers disapeared almost overnight since the villagers didn’t want their profits to disappear.

          • Jay

            Its impossible to exhaust the planet’s resources even if our population were to quadruple. Why do I believe this? God would not have commanded His creatures to be fruitful and multiply while at the same time not provide inexhaustible resources to fully support the needs of his creatures. As you may know, when He said to multiply He did not a CAP on population GROWTH!!! Why?, because, nothing is impossible for God, and even if every square inch of the planet had people on it, God would still PROVIDE!!! But like Peter Pan was told: “You must BELIEVE!!!. It’s no wonder the unbeliever stresses and worries about the future!

          • vicki

            Jay is quite right. There are a LOT of resources in / on this planet. As someone else pointed out in another thread all 6+ billion people in the world could stand together in the state of Texas. So space is not a problem. Lets try water.

            “There’s a whole lot of water on Earth! Something like 326,000,000,000,000,000,000 gallons (326 million trillion gallons)”
            http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geophysics/question157.htm

            That’s, as they said, a LOT of H20. 326,000,000,000,000,000,000 / 6,000,000,000 (that’s billion) is

            326,000,000,000 / 6 = ~ 54 BILLION gallons of water for each and every person. I think we have enough to share with the plants and animals around us. Good evidence that the Creator Jay mentioned did indeed provide.

            (assuming I didn’t misplace a decimal point or comma that is. Feel free to check my work)

    • DaveH

      Maybe, but those efforts should be left to Free Markets, for people to decide volutarily which energies suit them. There should be no Elitist Overlords dictating peoples’ choices.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Dave H:

        Ah, Free Markets! Obama will love it! More free stuff to bribe his idiots with.

        I think I’ve had too much coffee. Time to start the alcohol….

      • Vigilant

        You have my total agreement on that.

        The most powerful forces are the market forces. If cheap forms of alternative energy were available now, we’d be using them. Obama’s cover story, along with his green friends, is to make the earth a cleaner place to live.

        The actuality is different: he seeks to drive up the cost of traditional energy sources so high that the costs for alternative energy sources will be competetive. Meanwhile, he can offer the plums to his buddies in the those green industries which are non cost beneficial.

        Moreover, the highly vaunted anti-corporatism of the left is belied by Obama’s appointment of Jeffrey Immelt (G.E.) to the White House Jobs Council. Immelt early on put most of his eggs in one basket by devoting G.E.’s resources to the production of windmills, a venture abandoned by T. Boone Pickens as unprofitable.

        Immelt has counted on Obama for rich gov’t subsidies and tax benefits to bolster this marginally profitable enterprise. Now, even the left is calling for his dismissal “in light of reports that the company last year made $14.2 billion in profit, paid zero in corporate federal taxes and actually received a $3.2 billion tax benefit.” (see http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/03/30/liberals-press-obama-dump-ge-ceo-economic-panel/ ).

        Those of us who live in the real world know that whatever “progress” we make in introducing clean energy usage will be more than offset by the pollution generated by the growing industrial giants of India and China.

        Charles Krauthammer last night made a very cogent observation when he asserted that we need to make up our minds with regard to the level of uncertainty and safety we are willing to accept by continuing with the M.E. as a major source of our energy needs. If the nation is really concerned about energy independence, then we need to exploit our own domestic resources and technologies.

    • Dale on the left coast

      Barb . . . all the nuclear waste would fill a few containers.
      You live in one of the cleanest countries in the world. Take your enviro-whack nonsense to China or India and protest.
      Did you know you fat Al has bought a mansion on the California coast? Didn’t Al tell us the ocean would rise 30 feet by today?

      • barbm

        Dale on the left coast says:
        Barb . . . all the nuclear waste would fill a few containers.
        You live in one of the cleanest countries in the world. Take your enviro-whack nonsense to China or India and protest.
        Did you know you fat Al has bought a mansion on the California coast? Didn’t Al tell us the ocean would rise 30 feet by today?

        and who will make sure they NEVER leak? and who will pay to have it guarded for thousands and thousands of years? and how many more will there be if we continue to build nuclear plants? do you want it in your back yard? not me!! up yours, bucko. i’m an american, an independent, a conservative – that does not mean i can’t also have a social conscience. as an american, i have every right to protest right here. if you believe otherwise, how about you trot your happy behind to china or india? i don’t care what al gore does or believes. he’s a hypocrit. george bush, on the other hand, hardly uses any water or power on his ranch in crawford. you can do it or you can talk about doing it. bush did it.

        • 45caliber

          I already mentioned two ways to use or get rid of nuclear waste. The most sensible way is to put it in the bottom of an old mine. So it does leak there. It can’t go anywhere. And many old mines have no water to carry it away. As I said, there are always risks. Minor ones.

          • barbm

            no matter where it leaks, it will eventually be able to make it into the earth, water, and air. i saw a guy on tv turn plastic back into oil. they’re coming up with better vehicles. there are so many things we can do and should’ve been doing all along, but that would require some sacrifice. that’s something spoiled rotten americans aren’t willing to do. look at how the teachers and other union people have acted. you didn’t hear the elderly acting like that when we were passed over for raises 2 years in a row. we sucked it up and are going forward. everybody needs to get involved in more than just lip service. that means we’ll all have to take a hit and stop whining about it.

          • DaveH

            We are surrounded with radiation of different forms, dangerous to different degrees. None of us lives forever.
            One question that I have always had is what keeps uranium from leaching into water supplies? After all, plutonium comes from uranium, just more concentrated. And our neighbor Canada does over 20% of the world’s uranium mining.
            I have to wonder if all the hand-wringing about where to bury the spent plutonium isn’t just one of those non-legitimate worries that John speaks of.

            Here is a very comprehensive article on the Dangers of Radiation:
            http://www.cato.org/pubs/journal/cj2n1/cj2n1-8.pdf

        • JeffH

          barbm, are you aware that if our government would allow the reprocessing of nuclear waste that there would be little or even no nuclear waste?

          For 35+ years, U.S. government policy has banned the reprocessing of nuclear waste. All of the leading thinkers that have looked at nuclear power, that have looked at how we can accomplish the goals for clean development, recognize that that will eventually lead us to recycling of spent fuel.

          Technology called UREX Plus developed in DOE labs, could allow for that to safely happen. Waste from traditional light water reactors would go through a chemical process separating some elements. It would not yield pure plutonium, as technology now used in Europe and Asia does. Instead, plutonium would be bound up with other chemicals in a material that could later be fuel for an advanced reactor.
          It allows you to extract much greater energy out of the spent fuel, and it also results in a waste form at the end of the process that is much more stable and much easier to dispose of.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Jeff:

            Interesting. Why does the govt. not allow that?

            Follow the money?

          • JeffH

            Old Henry, yep…money of the environmental extremists?

            Over the past four decades, America’s reactors have produced about 56,000 tons of used fuel. That “waste” contains roughly enough energy to power every U.S. household for 12 years. And it’s just sitting there, piling up at power plant storage facilities. Talk about waste!

            The sad thing is, the United States developed the technology to recapture that energy decades ago, then barred its commercial use in 1977.

            France, whose 59 reactors generate 80 percent of its electricity, has safely recycled nuclear fuel for decades. They turned to nuclear power in the 1970s to limit their dependence on foreign energy. And, from the beginning, they made recycling used fuel central to their program.

            Upon its removal from French reactors, used fuel is packed in containers and safely shipped via train and road to a facility in La Hague. There, the energy producing uranium and plutonium are removed and separated from the other waste and made into new fuel that can be used again. The entire process adds about 6 percent in costs for the French.

            ***Anti-nuclear fear mongering*** has proved baseless. The French have recycled fuel like this for 30 years without incident: no terrorist attack, no bad guys stealing uranium, no contribution toward nuclear weapons proliferaton, and 0 accidental explosions.
            France meets all of its recycling needs with one facility.
            http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318688,00.html

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Whoa Barb! I haven’t seen you go off like that since we were discussing legalizing drugs a few weeks back.

          Just remember: The root word in conservative is conserve. There is nothing wrong with it at all. 45 did point out that there is research taking place that will quite possibly remedy the nucler waste issue.

          Keep us posted, so to speak, on that tankless water heater thing.

    • 45caliber

      barbm:

      There are two ways I know about and both are good.

      First, there is a program now underway that will use the old rods to create energy by themselves. Gates is involved. The process is sealed and uses up the rods without maintenance. Each plant will run for about 100 years and produce about 1-2 megawatts of power – about enough to run a small city.

      Second, you can always put them in a rocket and send them into the sun. Instant obliteration.

      Regardless, there are always some small risks in anything. You do what you can to minimize them. If you don’t have risks, you are dead – literally. You take a daily risk stepping out of your bathtub. And the chances of injury are greater than what you might have from nuclear power. Which should you fear most?

      • Vicki

        “Second, you can always put them in a rocket and send them into the sun. Instant obliteration.”

        Not obliterated. Recycled.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        That is FACSINATING! I have always wondered why we could not invent some way to use the wate.

        And I have wondered for 30 years why we could not send it to the sun and burn it up. It might even help recharge the sun! Can we get liberals to be the pilots?

        • 45caliber

          I would LOVE to!! I can even nominate a few. LOL

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45caliber,
        “put it into a rocket and send it to the sun…” One word on that, Challenger??

    • http://deleted Claire

      barm–I am against nuclear power too. There are 6 nuclear plants here in Illinois. I wonder how many of them are actually safe.

      • http://deleted Claire

        barbm– sorry.

        • barbm

          i’ve been called a lot worse – on here – today!! :) i know there were serious defects in the plant at bay city that were only caught and fixed because of a whistle blower who came forward. it’s about 20 miles from the gulf of mexico. the other one in north tx is on a dangerous piece of dirt. everything’s just hunky dorey fine even though 3 mile island had a partial meltdown, then there was chernobyl, and now japan. come on folks, s**t happens. want it to happen in your back yard? no way i could escape if that plant in bay city had a problem with prevailing winds carrying radiation right at me. and it’s not just a mechanical issue. there are terrorists out there. oh, i guess that’s just a fairytale too, huh?

          • http://deleted Claire

            barbm–I am on your side regarding your comments. I agree with you. Radiation from Japan has traveled across the U.S. I think it was Massachusetts that had radiation in their rainfall recently. And we were told it was harmless. Last week my dogs were sneezing like crazy. This week they are not sneezing. And they do NOT have allergies. My husband, myself, and our son were sneezing last week too. Supposedly the pollen count was high last week. Maybe so, but I have lived long enough that I do not trust or believe much of what I hear.

  • http://www.SUPERSONICFLYAERO.org PRINCE STEPHEN MYERS

    hi president liberty,
    good morning president universal united states of AMERICA,
    its my honour to congratulate the U.S on our victory in libya and afganistan, and in iran and the rest of the world where insurgency and wicked moral of high definition appeal conguest of the mighty , the united states navy is the bravest military in the history of time , we are on the surge soldier of winning the world millenium of happiness, we are the best command , the white house is commited to the freedom of man and the total liberation of the world human economy,..in our world today we need courage , we need the spirit of boldness , and the affectionate power of love, we are the new world order …the war on petroleum pricing and aero construction might continue , global budgetery deficit may rise …..we have total liberty to win the tides of time….this is our time to shine …like to sing…viva forever i will be waiting everlasting , like the sun , live forever , for the moment eversearching for the one……… hasta vista…..

  • http://com i41

    karolyn. you have to be a typical east coast liberial progressiver. Any business person or worker in the real world could do a better job than this jug eared perpetual vacationing idoit has done. First because most real business people or workers are lucky to get a week off to have someone else pick up the massive tab. Second the toughest thing the book trained moron does is get his dead ass up sometime before noon. If he was really working at his jobs, he wouldn’t be out behaving like some 15 year old drug head playing pounding the pumkin. If you can f–k off every day for a few hoursa you aren’t working hard enough at your job. Since the drug dealer and user has never had a real job, and has been some freaks boy for years, wheather a sheik or George Soros, he doesn’t have a clue on creating jobs. You don’t see what your beloved soros socialist dumbocraps and the marxist muslim moron in Cheif have destroyed and are working at totally destroying America. The dumb bastard gives our money to let Mexico go and drill close to the same area where the BP problem happened, gave several more billions to the money man of the democrap party Soros oros may have sold his common stock but bought back prime stock so it is harder to track and he get a gareenteed profit every year. We still don’t know all the money that was approved to be spent by onumnutts and the lap pooches of the democrap party on the Nocare bill. Still you communist/marxist loving idoits can not see what dems and Onumnutts has done to destroy America. The spending isn’t so much of a problem when people are working and thing of real vakue are being produced, the problem starts when people are out of work and we keep supporting more welfare slubs and worthless over educate idoits that produce nothing of value. I just had a 3 degreed 28 year old show up looking for work, he has done nothing but go to school since age 4 and never has hada job, traveled and vactioned every year thanks to his parents. But can not operate a skid steer or any equipment, much less a shovel. He will not get his hands dirty and has as much common sense for a pay reate as our crossbred marxist muslim. Karolyn you sound just like the nappy headed marxist muslim moron on talking about energy for America. Jaws are moving and b–l s–t is flowing, but there isn’t any real substance, about like green grass manure in the spring, pretty watery and thin and worthless. The f–king loon tstill thinks airy fairy power is going to do away with oil, appartently he doesn’t reralize his telepromotor is pretty much made with oil. Let the American workers start producing more crude.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      “Jug eared vacationing idiot”. Whoa! Now that’s gonna bring Jovi runnin to the keyboard! He’s been perty quiet today.

      • Carlucci

        I know! Where is jovi when we need him? I miss throwing darts at him.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          Carlucci:

          Typical liberal. Never around when ya need ‘em.

          Well, as long as he’s not here, I guess we know who we can talk about…

  • DaveH

    Speaking of something to fear, try Big Government.
    Life expectancy in the poor countries is much lower than in the rich countries. What do the poor countries have in common? Big Government.
    Compare the below list (countries’ life expectancy) with the following list of countries ranked by Economic Freedom (size of Government) to see the correlation between the two:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

    • DaveH

      http://heritage.org/index/Ranking

      So, the Liberals are trying to push us towards the very thing (Bigger Government) that is the biggest risk for our lives (and our pocketbooks). I think Liberals should be banned. Or maybe we should tax them extra.

      • Thamera

        “My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.”
        -Thomas Jefferson

        • Eddie47d

          If hot air was taxed then we could pay down the national debt with Dave’s diatribes. LOL Take a chill Dave!

          • DaveH

            Bugger off, little Troll.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Or perhaps if we used your hot air,we could power all the wind turbines we theoretically would need to get our nation under the “green” agenda.Al Gore would be so proud…..

          • JeffH

            …first words of the day…a personal attack…anyone surprised?

          • 45caliber

            Actually, I believe we should seal the Capitol and use the hot air generated there in Congress to run a turbine. We could probably generate enough energy to run half the country off it!

          • Vicki

            45Caliber writes:
            “…first words of the day…a personal attack…anyone surprised?”

            From Eddie47d? No surprise at all. He’s a liberal.

          • Eddie47d

            Number 1 Vickie; Caliber didn’t say what you are quoting. Number 2. Robert D made the first disparaging remark.Number 3 Dave H. made one before me but you wouldn’t bother to notice. Number 4 I told Dave H. to laugh it off but he choose to be shallow and made another smirky remark. Number 6 I notice you never say anything to Dave H. in past days when he attacks me. Number 7 that make you one of those slippery tongued conservatives who make accusations when they don’t know what they are talking about. Number 8 Have a nice day grumpy.

          • DaveH

            The thing is, Eddie47Duh, my comments mostly contain things other than personal attacks unlike yours. And my personal attacks are almost always limited to those Liberal trolls like yourself that have drawn first blood.
            I realize that, being the Union thug you are, you aren’t used to people fighting back.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            If hot air were power, we could provide power for the whole country just from the progs in DC!!!! If brains were dynamite eddie couldn’t blow his nose!!!

          • Jay

            Eddie47d, if we were to tax the hot air coming from you, we could then balance our books!

          • vicki

            Eddie47D has fun with numbers:
            “Number 6 I notice you never say anything to Dave H. in past days when he attacks me.”

            Do you need a referee too?

            Eddie47d: “Number 7 that make you one of those slippery tongued conservatives who make accusations when they don’t know what they are talking about. ”

            Unlike liberals who don’t know what they are talking about and never bother with any cites to backup what they don’t know.

            Nice. Projecting again?

          • vicki

            Eddie47d is correct on one thing. I mistakenly attributed the quote to 45c instead of JeffH. My apologies.

      • karolyn

        Jeff – Are you talking about Dave? He started it by bashing liberals and also prior to that by bashing me. Someone was bound to respond in kind.

        • Vicki

          Karolyn. I checked each of DaveH posts in this thread and found no evidence of your assertion. Care to provide some?

          • karolyn

            “I think Liberals should be banned. Or maybe we should tax them extra.” He also said “Go stick you head under a rock and chant “I wish I was in Kansas” to me. I did not respond.

          • Vicki

            Yes he did suggest you hide under a rock. It seems to be related to your post of “I have never been a basher. The worst I ever said about Bush was to call him “Shrub.””

            I apparently don’t tend to see those things because (unlike liberals) he usually has some good points and facts in the same post. I will try to be more attentive.

            When liberals bash they start their posts with bashing and they rarely have any points and never provide facts and cites to backup their points.

          • DaveH

            I was simply responding to your self-aggrandizing comment, Karolyn, in which you bashed others on this board.
            To wit — Karolyn said “Right. I would like to see many of these people who bash everybody get i there and do a better job. I simply cannot agree with those who say that Obama is out to destroy the country. That is totally baselss and ridiculous. I have never been a basher. The worst I ever said about Bush was to call him “Shrub.” All of the bashing comes from fear. Anger comes from fear. Why are so many people so fearful?”
            I don’t expect you to get it, Karolyn, as you are the type of person who looks in her mirror and only sees Cinderella staring back.

          • Karolyn

            Therein lies the problem, Dave, YOU just don’t get it. I don’t run around saying conservative should leave the country, be banned, are scum, blah, glah, blah. All I said was let some of these people who have all the answers and bash the President see if they can do a better job. THAT is CERTAINLY not bashing. I would have assumed, knowing how intelligent you are (not being facetious here) that you would get that. In other words, when I say something that infers that conservatives are bashers and should give it a try, that is bashing? (shaking head).

          • Karolyn

            Vicki – I believe my point was valid.

          • DaveH

            No, Karolyn, you run around voting to steal other peoples’ money as if it were your own. You’re so noble.

          • DaveH

            Here’s a woman who will jump on your back, demand that you carry her, and if you protest, she will whine “how dare you bash me, wah”. I wonder what it’s like to be so oblivious?

          • Jay

            Karolyn, I think that just about anyone could do a better JOB!!!

        • JeffH

          If you are a liberal I can understand why you might take “liberal” bashing personal, although that bashing would be generalized and directed at all liberals not a specific individual. Guilt ridden?

          • karolyn

            No, Jeff. I was just responding to the post that Eddie was the first to write something “critical.”

          • Vicki

            the comments about Eddie47d were not that he was the first to write something critical. The comment was that the first time HE wrote in this thread he wrote a personal attack instead of addressing the points.

          • DaveH

            As I have said many times, I am not Christian, so I don’t have to turn the other cheek. Karolyn was bashing others on this board, so I responded in kind. Poor innocent little Karolyn.

          • Eddie47d

            Well Jeff and Dave; Since you two love bashing liberals and we shouldn’t take it personal then if and when we rebuttal about conservatives you also will not take it personal. I already know what Dave is thinking because he thinks conservatives are pure as the driven snow. He takes it very personal and he can’t even take a little humor (as in my earlier post).

          • Thamera

            Oh my…

          • DaveH

            Let’s see, Eddie47Duh. True Conservatives don’t take other peoples’ money. True Conservatives don’t force their energy agendas on other people. True Conservatives don’t force their personal health care choices on other people.
            Liberals do all of those. So yes, I do think True Conservatives are a lot more moral and respectful of our fellow human beings than Liberals.

          • DaveH

            And, Eddie, I don’t “love” bashing Liberals. They are vile, disgusting creatures who think they have a right to ride on the shoulders of others. And, though generally lacking knowledge themselves, they have no reservations at all when it comes to forcing their ignorant ways on their fellow citizens. I just can’t help bashing them.

          • JeffH

            47D, I never take anything said here personal unlike you emotion driven liberals.

          • JeffH

            karolyn, there is a difference between “personal”, which was a part of my comment and your word “critical” which was not in my comment. Why would you want to mis-represent what I said?

            Answer – Because that is what you liberals do, and do very well I might add.

          • Eddie47d

            Unlike those on the Right who seem stone cold and without emotions. Except for bashing liberals of coarse.

      • 45caliber

        The problem is that the libs don’t pay taxes. Just look as the ones Oblama appointed. It doesn’t matter what they should be paying.

      • bob wire

        “Speaking of something to fear, try Big Government.”

        Right Dave, and the new GOP governors seem to be hell bent to make government move intrusive then ever and from what I can tell government and government spending is not getting any smaller for it.

        These legal tangles, accompanying legal fees and new election in Wisconsin will not be free. It’s appears that the Governor of Michigan is wanting the power to dissolve a state township and it’s government with no more then on his command. That’s a lot of power for only one person to chair.

        The implications of these new and improved Tea Party ways of running government are far reaching and do little to secure personal freedoms as were claimed and promised. Even for you Dave, as I feel your heart is in the right place, should be concerned.

        There is more then just one way to do things, if you manage get to where you wished to go and have lost cargo and half your crew in the process, there is little to celebrate about. You might find it difficult to charter another ship and book another voyage.

        • DaveH

          Duh, Bob, I’m not Republican.
          When it comes to politicians, must the people (and their children) be saddled with the largess of leaders who are freely spending other peoples’ money? I say no. Especially for the children who had no say in the matter. I am hoping the Liberals and Unionists will push to the point where the people finally get fed up and insist on Government privatizing their services. Either that or no benefits should be offered by Government employers, only cash money, so the bill falls only on the people who are being represented at the time.

          • Thamera

            Well said DaveH. Why are people so determined to make this a bi-partisan issue at every level. Big Government IS BAD government whether you are talking about regulations of light bulbs and health care and entitlements or increased spending or another war…ETC.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            DaveH,
            good news today from Ohio!! We passed a bill making collective bargaining for benefits illegal!!! Salary, working conditions, others are ok!

          • DaveH

            Outstanding, Joe. Keep it up.

          • JeffH

            Joe H…HOO RAH for Ohio!

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Could it be they’re (there, their) taxed to death?
      Where’s Tom Anderson when ya need him?

      • barbm

        how many times do i have to tell you this? :) you were right the first time with “they’re.”

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Old Henry,
        Their right, it’s they’re right to be their!!!

        • barbm

          i believe he was teasing me because we had a lie/lay discussion a week or so ago. i was teasing back – not being ugly.

  • http://com i41

    Don’t know how many people listened to the b–l s–t energy plan Onumnutts and his marxisr/communist adminstration is planning on dropping on USA citizens! Notice the crossbred jb didn’t metion the Stansbury Report od energy that was realeased when he was a senator. He is still spouting his envior crap that by his standrads will not happen for 10 years, when the silly bastard could drop the costs by saying unlimited drill is starting. Soros would lose a bundle since his maga hedge fund is driving up commodity and fuel costs.

  • johnny starr

    AGREED – EXCEPT FOR ONE POINT:

    NOT LISTENING TO THE REAL, TRUTHFUL NEWS MAKES US DUMB PARTICIPANTS IN OUR REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT – IN OTHER WORDS – DUMB AND STUPID VOTERS – WHICH ONLY MAKES THE SITUATION WORSE AND GIVES US EVEN MORE REAL THINGS TO FEAR AND WORRY ABOUT. FOR INSTANCE – IGNORANCE OF ISSUES AD FACTS RESULTED IN THE IGNORANT ELECTING OBAMA.

    WE NEED TO EDUCATE OURSELVES AND WE NEED TO PARTICIPATE AND VOTE ACCORDING TO REAL INFORMATION AND TRUTH – AND IF THAT HURTS TOO MUCH, THEN WE MIGHT AS WELL SUBMIT OURSELVES AS SLAVES TO THE ELITIST TYRANNY OF THE ONE WORLDER THUGS.

  • FreedomFighter

    Fear another 4 years of Obama and his liberal/socialist/communist agenda.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Cawmun Cents

      Not fear sir,preparedness….Semper Paratus!

  • Rennie

    Yes, there are worse fears, for us in the USA. Just one reactor at Fukushima (there are three in doubt) is four times the size of Chernobyl. Chernobyl used graphite rods, which were more readily carried aloft as particulant matter, something steam alone can’t do, but burning fuel rods can. Chernobyl did not involve plutonium fuel as reactor # 3. With only one reactor and no spent fuel rods stored adjacent, Chernobyl was less complicated as it was only one issue. Yes Chernobyl lacked teh containment vessels wisely built into Fukushima reactors, BUT they were not supposed to be able to EXPLODE and CRACK, serious FAIL on that point. They do not compare with the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which remained local events, and did not involve the same materials. Chernobyl is a part of a vast continent compared to Japan, even a twenty mile diameter dead zone afterwards will take a huge bite out of Japan. Officials have downplayed fears and then, weeks after they should have, suggested people evacuate after leaving them in worsening fallout conditions with dwindling fuel, safe food/water and it’s unknown how many simply can’t physically evacuate. Japanese officials commented children have no problem with radiation as their thyroids readily absorb radiation??? Now the same EPA that tells us of the dire threat of CO2 (thus justifying the bipartisan embrace of nuclear power), turns around and says plutonium presents no threat to human life as long as it’s not inhaled or ingested??? They didn’t dump millions of gallons of saltwater on Chernobyl, which now they stand around trying to figure out where the radioactive seawater came from. Now that saltwater has been pumped through the reactors, all they can do is bury them like Chernobyl. While I don’t believe, if things continue as present or improve, that the USA has a radiation fallout to fear, I can plainly see that protecting the nuclear power industry is job one for Japan & the USA. Consider in 1896 Honshu Island had a 125′ tall tsunami? No one expected a 48′ wave was possible when they built Fukushima? There is defintely a financial fallout, as Japan may want their money back (20% of US debt?), or as they can no longer feed themselves, forget about exports. If 1/4 of North Koreans are already hungry, where will they get their food from when China already would buy the entire US food export of they could? Food prices here will rise due to shortages, and due to fears of all Pacific Region foods.
    Get your garden planned, fruit or nut trees, berry bushes, etc. to at least supplement your diet, or to barter with.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Rennie,
      don’t worry, as usual the United States will take the displaced personel in and put them on welfare till they can or want to fend for themselves!!

  • http://! Angel Wannabe

    Good Article and precisely why, I only drop in once in a while now,I say my piece and then take off! It’s waste of time to sit here and “have at it” with a bunch Liberals, on a Conservative site, who interrupt and tout talking points, and try to make it seem, That O’Bambi and His Merry Band of thieves are the saviors in Washington Riiiiight lol!…NONE of them ARE!__The news Media spins, and spins us with them. Prayer, Faith, Families, Love, being prepared for ANYTHING, and going about life despite hardship is all we can do. Arguing about who’s right or wrong gets us no where. I STILL stand firm in the fact that Obama AND HIS ADMIN, IS FOR THE GOOD OF EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING_ “EXCEPT” AMERICA!

    • Kate8

      Angel W – I know what you mean about the liberal posters. I still think they are mostly paid to be here. I can’t think of any other reason why they’d stay so long.

      Anyway, I hope you keep posting. I always enjoy your down-to-Earth wit and common sense.

      Godspeed!

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        kate8, thanx, I will keep posting, I enjoy you and all the regular conservative posters on here, and have for well over a year and a half now_ but every so often, I just step back from the news on Tv and internet. I just get tired of arguing with liberal idiots. I’m not gonna change my conservative thought process, and I’m damn sure the Libs won’t change theirs either.So they can think what they want. I agree about them being paid shills, they have to be_ I can’t imagine them being that much of a pain in the azz for free!__lol

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Angel Wannabe,
          I agree, it’s good to see you are still here, we need you and more just like you. Keep on keepin on!!!

      • Jay

        Kate8, you are correct! There can be no doubt as to why they are here. I’m willing to bet that they are affiliated with moveon.org.

        The sweeping proposal unveiled by the co-chairs of President Obama’s debt commission has left Washington insiders scratching their heads. If Erskine  Bowles and former-Senator Alan Simpson were seeking a compromise that would win commission approval and have a chance in Congress next month, why didn’t they craft a modest package with pre-arranged buy-in? Why offer a dramatic plan that caught all sides by surprise and prompted still-Speaker Nancy Pelosi to denounce it as “simply unacceptable.”
        Bowles and Simpson are wily political veterans. So what’s really going on?
        What’s going on is that the co-chairs have essentially given up on the commission and their proposal is for a different – and more politically astute – purpose.
        It was a long-shot from the start that a presidential commission could agree on a significant package behind closed doors and then muster the votes in Congress to pass it. But the election was a dagger in the heart of the commission strategy.
        The Democratic and Republican co-chairs know this. So their proposal is not a framework for a commission deliberation endgame. Their purpose instead is to prompt a larger and much longer public discussion about the scale and scope of the federal government. They recognize that until that takes place, and there is a public consensus on basic issues, the American political system is incapable of taking decisive action.
        Such a public discussion delights the right and horrifies the left. So it is no surprise that the most virulent denunciations of the proposal are coming from the likes of Pelosi, a liberal Democrat from California,  MoveOn.org and the AFL-CIO.

        Read the rest here:
        http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Blogs/Capital-Exchange/2010/11/12/Capital-Exchange-Butler-Debt-Commission-Chairmen-Hidden-Agenda.aspx

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      John myers just for the record I too, broke my butt for well over 25 years exercising, I stayed a size 7_ til 7 years ago, when I had five surgeries over a two year period, to keep from going blind. I wasn’t allowed to lift anything over 10 pounds, or do any strenuous work or fitness training. I mainly worked out with weights & did aerobics. So_It’s been a PIA trying to get back in it again, believe me, and I hear ya on that!_-Thanks for the article!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        angel Wannabe,
        I can relate! went into the hospital for my first back surgery at 185 and left 50 days later at 204!!! It has taken me a lot of work to get back below 190!!

  • DaveH

    How the Democrats steer the Sheeple:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zWcRNEyx_w

    • Jay

      Yep, give them enough rope and the’ll hang themselves with it! It begs the question then, who really is the sheeple?

  • dave

    Dam_ Y’all givin’ me a powerful headache! I gotta go to work tommorrow to beaf up the GDP so the GDG can take everything, I make, back PDQ! GOD BLESS AMERICA…..it’s a dirty job but somebody’s gotta do it!

  • http://AOL Glock27

    I have been a survivalist, storing non-parishable foods, gasoline and other useable elements. Preperation in advance puts of tragidy of the future except for stupid Presidents and legislators who have absolutely no idea about what they are doing. I believe there are a hand full of us common people who could do a far superior job at this than the idiots that get elected, despite the handfull who do know what they are doing.

  • Jay

    Civil Disobedience
    Question: When, if ever, is it morally justifiable to disobey the law?

    This is a 4th of July question, Boston Tea Party, and that sort of thing. And also, I think this is particularly relevant at this time because of the Timothy McVeigh trial. In the most general case I think it is possible that some people (certainly McVeigh and Terry Nichols, assuming they did it) do not think a bombing of this type is necessarily wrong.

    At what point would YOU decide to disobey the law if the laws and the government enforcing them depart from your beliefs in regard to morality? For example, would you have been willing to hide Jews in Germany in the late ’30s? Would you be willing to take up arms and shoot at the Gestapo as they dragged the Jews who lived next door away? Or if the Gestapo (or what ever it might be called in your time and place) were about to drag you and your family away? Or help runaway slaves during the 1850′s and early 1860′s in the US? Or would you as a member of the US army fired upon Native American women and children after being ordered to? Or what if our government required everyone to have an electronic identification device imbedded in his or her skull? Or your SSN tattooed on your wrist? Or required that you (as a non-criminal — until now) register with the police every time you left one jurisdiction and entered a new police jurisdiction (it could made easy with today’s technology — magnetic encoded credit card like badges at the county lines and town borders — that sort of thing)? Or required that you show positive ID for every purchase you made (makes it hard to conceal your feeding the family of ‘Jews’ living in your attic). Or what if the police start making “routine checks” of your vehicles for drugs, politically incorrect weapons (the UK has outlawed many types of knifes), and other contraband? What about registration of your firearms? Confiscation of your firearms? Possession of more than X rounds of ammunition? Or what if the government required that you obtained permission before having a child? Or required that your child be taught a version of history that you believed was incorrect? Or prohibited you from viewing certain materials? Or prohibited you from criticizing the government? Or prohibited you from private meetings (a public “watchdog” must be in attendance and the entire meeting video taped) of more than X people? Or declared that mere possession of explosive components was a crime (never mind that kitchen flour can be made to explode)? Or a tax on singles/gays/non-whites/whatever? Or (il)legal abortion? There are people who believe abortion is murder. Is their claim that much different than believing Jews are human and qualified to enjoy the same rights as other humans even though the law claims they are not (US law on abortion, compared to 1939 German laws regarding people of Jewish descent)? Would you break the law to stop someone from having a legal abortion? Others claim abortion is a right. If abortion was illegal in your state or country would you help someone to obtain one in another state or country even if such action were against the law?

    Basically, at what point, if any, do you, as a freedom loving person, declare you are willing to disobey authority and potentially suffer the consequences? And further, at what point, if any, are you willing to use force to exercise that freedom or prevent the arrest and/or prosecution of people trying to exercise their freedoms? And if you are, at some point, willing to use force, what form would that force be?

    Or perhaps you are one who says, “the law is the law”, or “peace at any cost”. And if so, what would you say to Patrick Henry, who declared, “Give me liberty or give me death!” Or to Samual Adams who in 1776 said:

    If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.

    And if so, what would you say to the families of the millions who fought the British, the Japanese, the Germans, and all the others and ended up giving their lives for your freedom? Would you tell them, “Freedom is just not that important to me?” Or, “I wouldn’t give it up to another government, but if my government takes it from me, that’s okay?”

    Written by: Joe Huffman

    Read the rest here: http://www.joehuffman.org/misc/disobey.htm

  • soldier

    A million people did not die from cancer because of Chernoble… nothing to see here… move along, move along. Storing spent fuel rods on top of a reactor that some day could overheat (my physics might be a little slow… but I remember that heat rises) is incredibly smart!!!

    I guess in the decades ahead, we will find out what the cancer rate is… The sad thing is that it isn’t like millions will drop dead on one day… millions will drop dead over decades. If you have cancer, you can’t be sure how or why you have it. All you know is you have it…. Millions could get cancer in Japan in 10-20 years, but of course it will all be covered up by the mainstream media. When they say that radiation is thousands of times higher than normal 20 miles from the plant, one has to wonder if that is ok.

    • Cawmun Cents

      You mean like A.I.D.S. was supposed to wipe out all the heterosexuals?Then they found out that mostly homosexuals died.I believe it was the wise man that said,”There’s a rat under my bed,and there’s a little green man in my head.”

    • nickwolf

      Radiation moves like tendrils, not clouds! If you go to Chernobyl, they give you a geiger counter. It will register say 30 where your standing, but, move a couple of feet and it might register 30,000! Also saying its about as much radiation as a tooth X-ray is misleading, you don’t get that quantity of radiation for a second….you get it for years! Big difference!
      It only takes one particle of radioactive iodide to enter your thyroid gland, get absorbed and destroy the walls of cells, starting cancer! ….. one particulate of radioactive waste!
      If you want to know about Physics or Medicine…don’t talk to talk show hosts or web commentators!
      The meltdown is very serious and a big danger!

  • nickwolf

    The recession is over. The Presidents economic policy was correct, except, that it was too small! The last 6 recessions were handled in exactly the same way. Reagan, Nixon etc all knew that Kenssian Economics ….works! Even though the Herbert Hoover false doctrine has been shown every time to not work and make things worse, its happening again. People are cutting jobs, not accepting new projects, slowing the recovery and start ups of new industry’s desperately needed by the American middle class.
    Despite it all the Job recovery is happening, were 8.9 now! Thats with Obama haters doing everything they can to hurt America’s recovery in order to gain power for the richest 2%.
    If lowering taxes created jobs, we wouldn’t have lost 9 million jobs!! We have had tax cuts for the rich for 10 yrs. The President has been proven right! Proof is in the putting…and he’s won…despite everything the Republican Pony boys could throw at him! He’s Won….they lost! End of Story!

    • vicki

      Nickwolf writes:
      “If lowering taxes created jobs, we wouldn’t have lost 9 million jobs!! We have had tax cuts for the rich for 10 yrs. The President has been proven right! Proof is in the putting…and he’s won…despite everything the Republican Pony boys could throw at him! He’s Won….they lost! End of Story!”

      End of rant. Not end of story.

      To loose 9 million jobs due to tax cuts you would have to LOWER taxes first. Since neither Obama nor the Democrat Congress lowered taxes (they actually raised taxes by a lot) it is hard to see how Obama won anything but your foolish admiration.

      http://www.atr.org/files/files/020711pr_Obama_I_DIDNT_Raise_Taxes_Once.pdf
      (Note there was a TEMPORARY tax cut and a small permanent one that was easily swamped out by the big increase. $7 increase for every $1 decrease adds up to an increase. The public can be fooled by such tricks but business accountants don’t miss those things.)

  • jopa

    I saw an interesting chart last night that claimed the Bush tax cut would directly create !.6 million jobs in ten years but in reality there was a 1.7 million job loss.Anyone with a brain can see this trickle down economics does not work.

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