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If Republicans Win, What Then?

November 1, 2010 by  

If Republicans Win, What Then?

If actual election-day results confirm conventional wisdom and House — and maybe Senate — Democrat majorities are swept away like yesterday’s trash, Republicans will have every reason to be giddy. Constitutionalists, conservatives and Libertarians, however, should temper their enthusiasm.

That’s because Republicans have not yet shown they understand what the original Tea Parties — that is those not co-opted by selfish, big money or globalist interests — stood for, nor have they shown they appreciate the mood of the country. This misunderstanding was made manifest in the Contract with American 2010 that House Republicans released in September and are now touting as their action plan if they gain the majority.

This attractive position paper with a fancy cover, lots of photographs of the Statue of Liberty, politicians, Mt. Rushmore, horses, town hall crowds and elegant buildings and monuments, and filled with highfalutin language is simply a propaganda piece designed to appease the simpletons. Republicans understand that Senate Democrats will filibuster sound legislation and Obama will veto whatever they manage to get passed. In other words, the Contract is classic political doublespeak.

While some of the ideas it contains are good first steps — repeal Obamacare, get the government out of the mortgage business by cutting off Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, extending the current tax rate and requiring the Constitutional authority for each new bill to be cited — others demonstrate the progressive mentality that has infected the GOP — and all of Washington D.C. One of these is the pledge to cut spending back to 2008 levels.

Two thousand eight, you’ll recall, was the last year of “compassionate conservative” President George W. Bush’s term. With the help of six years of a Republican-controlled Congress and two years of a Democrat-controlled Congress, Bush increased government spending more than any of the six presidents that preceded him, including Lyndon Johnson, according to Veronique de Rugy of the George Mason University Mercatus Center.

“During his eight years in office, President Bush spent almost twice as much as his predecessor, President Clinton. Adjusted for inflation, in eight years, President Clinton increased the federal budget by 11 percent. In eight years, President Bush increased it by a whopping 104 percent,” de Rugy writes.

So what the Republicans pledge to do involves rolling a massively over bloated, overregulated, profligate government back to a hugely over bloated, overregulated profligate government. And while the Contract talks in nebulous terms about cutting back on regulations and eliminating fraud and waste, it says nothing about eliminating unConstitutional government agencies, repealing unConstitutional laws, eliminating (or at least auditing) the Federal Reserve, requiring the President to prove his Constitutionally-required eligibility to hold office or defunding the offices of Obama’s dozens of unconstitutional czars.

Nor does it mention ending the permanent, ineffective and fabricated war on terror, except to say that it promises to pass “clean” bills to fund the troops. In essence, Republicans are promising more of the same never-ending, undeclared wars foisted on us by the last four Presidents and funded by fiat, and apparently a Republican Congress intends to continue abdicating its responsibility by allowing the military invasion of the Middle East to continue — and even plans to expand it by strengthening sanctions against Iran.

Those who predict such things anticipate a Republican gain of at least the 39 House seats they need to take the majority… and perhaps a gain of as many as 60. Some are even throwing out numbers like 70 to 100. In the Senate, the Real Clear Politics average gives Republicans 45 seats and Democrats 49, with six races too close to call. In other words, a Republican-controlled House is as safe a bet as there is in politics. But a Republican-controlled Senate is a long shot that would either require all six of toss up races to break for Republicans, or a major surprise to occur in one or more of the leans- or likely-Democrat seats.

With all the Tea Party-backed candidates invading the “hallowed” halls of Congress come January, Representative Ron Paul (R-Texas) — the man establishment Republicans love to hate — is going to have a lot of company and prospective new House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is going to have a lot of headaches. But at least Boehner has been on board endorsing Tea Party candidates.

Not so Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). He’s as firmly entrenched an establishment Republican as there is, having been in the Senate since 1984. He endorsed Rand Paul’s Kentucky primary opponent Trey Grayson. He’s not been very receptive to the Tea Party message and, like most of the rest of the Republican establishment, sees Tea Party candidates as a threat to the status quo. It’s going to be interesting to see how he’s able to lead should the Democrat collapse become complete and Republicans win control of the Senate.

For McConnell, keeping the likes of new Republican Senators such as Nevada’s Sharron Angle, Colorado’s Ken Buck, Wisconsin’s Ron Johnson, Utah’s Mike Lee, Alaska’s Joe Miller, Delaware’s Christine O’Donnell, Kentucky’s Rand Paul, West Virginia’s John Raese, Washington’s Dino Rossi, Florida’s Marco Rubio and Pennsylvania’s Pat Toomy in Republican lockstep will be akin to herding cats — and probably as successful.

 In other words, Tea Partiers and Constitutionalists, tomorrow is just a first step. While the election will probably derail — or at least slow — Obama’s Marxist agenda, there will still be a lot of work to be done. First, establishment Republicans must be held to their promises in the Contract. Second, establishment Republicans have to be willing to work with their newly-elected brethren by putting them into leadership positions and listening to their ideas — particularly those ideas that got them elected. Establishment Republicans must realize that if they don’t embrace the new batch of Representatives and Senators then there will be more establishment seats on the chopping block in two years.

And finally, the new batch has to stay true to the principles they espoused on the campaign trail. If they betray their voters their terms will be short indeed.

It will behoove the establishment to understand once and for all that the Tea Party is not interested in Republican Party insider politics as usual and has no interest in playing their silly political parlor games. Karl Rove and his establishment ilk can denigrate king-and queen-maker Sarah Palin and Tea Party favorites like O’Donnell and prove their own irrelevance and allow the Republican Party to die, or they can embrace Tea Party candidates and change the GOP’s paradigm.

Tea Partiers are fed up with politics as usual and are clamoring for a return to the Founding principles of small government, free markets, sound money and secure borders. The elected class ignores these issues at its peril.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • s c

    First, whoever wants us to think of George Bush as a ‘compassionate conservative’ needs to take several years of remedial English. Second, Republicans need to grow spines and brains and do the right thing. SCREW the RNC and its daily addiction to power and money.
    Conservatives and libertarians can eviscerate socialism, communism and fascism. This twisted administration and most of the current members of Congress are not fit to be thought of as public servants.
    Last, it’s time for the staffers who cater to the whims of those who are elected to be tossed out on their arses. Congress is a cess pool disguised as a country club, and the White House has been for sale for many years.
    Flush the toilets, America.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      s c … Well said! Old time GOP leaders are going to have a wake up call almost as brutal as the left liberals. They had better see how important it is to listen to the voters and instead of each other. The country club is now going to be forced to let in those who do listen to the voters and those who think they don’t have to listen to us may find themselves in the unemployment line the next election!

      • Bozo The Clown

        get ready for the interment camps CAMP FEMA, money no good New World Order

        • http://naver samurai

          Bozo says it all, BOZO! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Al Sieber

      sc, you’re being too kind.

    • Bert Magnus

      Now we are talking sense. I could see the same old stuff when certain republicans started picking on Sarah Palin, afraid one of their hand picked idiots might not win the presidency if Sarah haS A SHOT AT IT. So, tomorrow is a good start, get rid of the Dems and SOS Republicans.

      • Denniso

        Bob Livingston is right to point out that Bush busted the budget and doubled the national debt in his 8 yrs,and the Dems didn’t make him do it. The Repub establishment that backed him is still in power and will be if they win back the House and maybe the Senate. Boehner has been there for 18 yrs +-,backed Bush in every aspect and he is set to become speaker. McConnell is also the party establishment and will be empowered if they take the Senate. The supposed tea party uprising is already being swallowed by the Repub party and it’s candidates will be blips in the power game in D.C. The energy of the tea party is just being used by the ‘party’ to regain power and will then be sat in the corner and told to shut up and learn the power game.

        Bob is way off base in suggesting that the ‘war on terror’ is fabricated and is only used for political purposes. If libertarians,Repubs and tea party people believe that, then they can be sold anything. Most people know and accept the fact that fanatic Muslims,lead by people like bin Ladden,are interested in killing Westerners and Americans…the question is why? Because we have imperialistic adventures in the Middle East? Because of our globally dominant culture that they abhor(along w/ many of us)? Because of the instability and violence caused by the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians,and our overt support of Israel? Sure, there are plenty of reasons behind the terrorists wish for our deaths,but that doesn’t mean the ‘war on terror’ is fabricated for political reasons.

        For a more sane foreign policy that can more effectively deal w/ this complex issue,vote to keep Dems in power. Did the 8 yrs of Bush/Cheny make the world more peaceful or less so? It will be the same party establishment in power that helped inflame hate and fear, if the Repubs regain control.

        • Palin12

          Too late for your impassioned plea. I voted for 1 dem (county treasurer) and 1 independant (governor), all the rest republicans. The champagne’s chilling as we speak. The only thing that will keep Angle from being my next Senator is a rigged election. The Secretary of State has already received several complaints that people voted for Angle and the printout said Reid. The SEIU goons are also bussing in the rank and file and standing over them to make sure they vote “the way they are supposed to”.

          • jimmy joe

            Good for you Palin 12.Let me offer an Idea of mine. that if every true Constitutional Conservative shut down the phone lines in Washington D.C.And demanded from this new congress.It would begin seperating the Wheat from the Chaf.”Know them by their fruits”Everytime A disgruntled Politician gets caught with their fingers in the Honey Pot,Betraying the voters,Who Trusted their words,And Oath to the Constitution,As well the Political Party,They said they represented,And would caucus with.Demand your leaders make a pledge in writing before you elect them.To Dance with the one’s that brought them.No more changing horses/PoliticalParties,And Caucauses,In the middle of the stream/Or before they are re-elected,To another term.Voters Keep getting the shaft from these Benedict Arlin Spector’s,I’ll be your Judas Iscariot,Charle Crist’s,And WAAAH its my seat Crybaby,Lisa Murkowsky’s.Its not enough though to just hold the Republican party accountable.There Must be Legislation to hold both parties equally responsible.”Know them by their fruit”Legislation,I would call;”Dance with the one’s that brought you,Not with the one’s who bought you”Even if it doesn’t pass right away,As under Barack Obama it won’t.But everyone will know with-out a doubt,Who are the sell-outs,And who are true to their words,And their oath.Which brings me to my final point.What would happen to anyone of us,Who put their hands on the bible Swearing to tell the truth,the whole truth,And nothing but the truth.Swear to uphold the law to the best your ability.Then Intentionally,Lie,Obstuct,And violate that oath.(PERJURY)Consequences;Jail,Fines,And Yes,”REPERATIONS”To those victimized,Who were lied too obstructed,And Constitutional rights violated.These same people hold our feet to the fire when we cross the line.WHOOPS;Unless of course if you are here Illegally,A Drug,or sex trafficker,Or a terrorist.Which makes my point.As the late Jack Webb,On the 60′s tv show Dragnet used to say;just the facts,And thats the law.Jimmy Joe,”The Liarfryer”

          • Denniso

            ‘Constitutional conservative’??? What the hell is that? A rude,uncivil dummy playing w/ guns and wearing them to political protests? You people are so clueless that you don’t even know that your rightwing,unamerican side has controlled the Supreme Court for over a decade,and it’s they who decide the constitutionality of laws passed by Congress. Your side’s grasp of the use of the constitution is like that of a third world dictator. You want to live in a fascist place like Iran? Move…

        • Wim Vonk

          Well said. Too many people have already forgotten the mess that Bush/Cheney left behind in foreign affairs. The US has first to learn that it will have to change its continuing support of Israel in all Middle East affairs. I do not suggest we should abandon Israel, just to be a little more neutral. Too many people are using the word Marksist to apple to Obama policies. This is ridiculous. In European and Canadian terms Obama is well right of centre. There is no left wing party in the States let alone a Marksist one

          • Wordwaryor

            You must be standing so far to the Left that you can’t even see the Right. Obama and his minions are Socialist – Marxists who want to take this country fully into European style socialism. And, THAT will NOT be America any longer. This is why so many Tea Party people are up and angry…… We want our country back to what made it great in the first place. Freedom, Private Property, States Rights, and Capitalism.

            Plain and Simple.

          • Denniso

            Palin12…you’re spreading myths. No one is standing over workers and watching them vote,that’s not allowed anywhere and that’s a stupid comment.

            If you get Angle you have my pity…she’s a know nothing w/ essentially no ability and no knowledge of the system. It will serve you people right if you get such a dimwit for a Senator.

            You rightwingers are always trashing the pundits and mainstream media…now that they presume to know that Refubs are going to do well,you love them.

            The Refubs will probably win the House, but no the Senate. The Refubs will have to actually work at fixing our messes and won’t be able to whine that they have no power as they throw bombs at Obama and the Dems. The joke of a ‘tea party’ will began infighting w/ the Refubs as they see how they are co-opted by party politics. It will all work toward Obama winning easily in 2012.

          • Denniso

            So does Wordwaryor favor ending social security,medicare,education,police and fire services,the CIA, the military,FBI,water treatment plants,U.S. hiways and the interstate system,condemnation laws for oil/gas pipelines,NASA and all space exploration????

            This is a modern, nuclear superpower that leads the world in most things. You want to return to the 19th century? Tell us what aspects of our society you would get rid of to reach your ‘dream’ country….

          • a progressive nightmare

            I find it facinating that DUMNISO could call someone a dimwit. If Angle is a “Dimwit” then that would make DUMNISO a MORON incapable of voting. Think about what she just said and the arrogance of that statement after she and other progressive-morons elected this totally incompetent piece of work we have in the WH…i.e.; SEIU/ACORN community organizer….THE OBLAMAMAN….. Even worse, we have a congress and a WH full of these progressive-marxist-morons that couldn’t comprehend the constitution or FREE MARKETS if their lives depended on it. Given that, why would we possibly think they could actually understand the TP movement.

            Bottom line, hopefully we can get a large part of these jack-booted marxist-thugs out of office come tomorrow and then continue to press forward until we RESTORE the REPUBLIC.

          • eddie47d

            Rev. Nightmare; Oh yes,let’s rush to restore our Republic and give it back to the free market thieves. Our jails aren’t big enough for all the corporate weasels that got away with their crimes. Look at all the loot that the Enron eschelon got away with.Some were never prosecuted and left with $30-60 million each.This latest insult is far worst so who’s to say crime doesn’t pay. There may be a few hoodlums in Washington now but the career criminals will be back after Tuesday. The Chamber of Commerce will make sure they are bought and payed for in advance.

          • Palin12

            Before you resort to the same ole tired democrat playbook of calling more conservative people than you stupid, please read the Nevada Secretary of State complaint (he is a Democrat, BTW) regarding union activities at early polling locations. Don’t take it from me, take it from your fellow democrat:

            Angle is not a know-nothing idiot as you suggest. She worked over 20 years as a school teacher in addition to serving in the state assembly where she tirelessly voted against tax increases (property taxes in particular). I do not like career politicians (especially lawyers) in DC and would like to see term limits imposed. If you think she is so stupid, why does nearly everyone agree she bested Reid in their debate? Did you watch it? It’s on YouTube. She took charge from the very beginning telling Dirty Harry to “Man up Harry Reid”. At the end when the candidates were each given 90 seconds for their closing remarks, Reid stumbled around for about 30 seconds, looking through his notes saying he had a lot of paperwork here looking like an old fool with Alzheimers.

          • DaveH

            You are way behind the times. We haven’t had Free Markets in nearly 100 years.
            And when is the last time any business forced you to buy their products? How can somebody steal something from you when you don’t have to buy it?
            Only when Government is involved, do we have to buy anything. Like Healthcare Insurance.
            Theft, Eddie, is when somebody takes money or property from you against your will. Like the people you support do.

          • jimmy joe

            Oh Boy;Another give the Hamas terrorist another billion dollars to murder jew children in Israel,Then maybe they will love us.I bet the Dancers in stripjoints,Love it,When you walk in.Let me try to exlain it.Its this simple;Nothing we can do,Will every satisfy these bloodsuckers on humanity.Their religion requires Islam,Under Shari’a law.Which is exactly like Progressive Marxist Liberalism,Under Political Correctness.Or What I call”lucifer’s Law”To have their Beliefs,And will,Exalted above anothers beliefs,or will, God,Humanity,Human life,And Human liberty/Free will,And any who refuse to Submit,Reform,Or is Inconvenienient to them,Does not have the right to Exist.Yea;This sic-o-phant Religion is Just like Progressive Liberalism.No wonder they KUM-BA-YA so well,Together.Against Americans,And our troops.And want to help C.A.I.R.Build A shrine to the 9/11 hi-jackers.Jimmy Joe,”The Liarfryer”

          • eddie47d

            Dave H. No wonder our country is in such a mess with your twisted version of thievery.With folks like you they’ll be back in full swing real soon.Ceo’s know how much they can pilfer from the vault so they won’t get caught. If they do get caught these “legal” hoodlums still come out smelling damn good.

          • spike

            You know, Wim Vonk and others (et al) …. I have a question to ask of you.: Does the debt that we are in under the Bush administration count the debt of the 2 wars? Aren’t wars expensive? Well, that would add to the budget deficits under Bush, wouldn’t it? Not that I am defending the idiot. But I want the truth told. Am I right?

          • Vicki

            Eddie47 writes:
            “Dave H. No wonder our country is in such a mess with your twisted version of thievery.With folks like you they’ll be back in full swing real soon.Ceo’s know how much they can pilfer from the vault so they won’t get caught. If they do get caught these “legal” hoodlums still come out smelling damn good.”

            Please enlighten us about these CEO’s that you claim have stolen (pilfer) something and explain what was stolen.

            For those who actually use English as defined, DaveH did not twist the definition of thievery but simply untwisted what Eddie47′s appears to be.

            From the dictionary:
            Thievery: the act or practice or an instance of stealing : theft
            Steal: to take the property of another wrongfully and especially as a habitual or regular practice.

            So as you see DaveH did not twist the definition nor use of the word.

            I hope I do not have to point out the definition of wrongfully to Eddie47. (<—- Possible subtle Ad Hominum attack. I'm so bad :) )

          • Denniso

            I call Sharon Angle a dimwit because of her dimwitted positions on the issues. Is she herself a dimwit,in other words dumb? I can’t say,but her lack of any sense in how a country has to function makes me wonder. So,she resists all taxes? How should we pay for the gov’t we have that provides things like a military,police,fire protection,highways?? Privatise all of these functions? Force people to hire their own private security and pay directly for the military?


          • Palin12

            She never said she’s against all taxes and neither have I. I myself voted for a 0.25% increase in sales tax to hire 200 more cops in Vegas. What we’re against is OVER-taxation to pay for frivolous things we can do without, such as $1.7 million a year to pay for Michelle Obama’s 20+ personal assistants, an expenditure that none of us benefit from. Or the death row inmate that was given a heart transplant that cost $1 million, and then died anyway 3-4 months later. This time tomorrow we should know. Harry can’t win on direct appeal to the people of Nevada; he can only win if the election is rigged.

          • DaveH

            So, the ignorant liberal Eddie thinks if his gang becomes big enough, then theft magically becomes moral. In Eddie’s warped mind, pulling the voting lever and letting somebody else do the dirty work of theft (Government) absolves him from any wrong doing.

          • Denniso

            Sorry DaveH, for the correction, but we have never had ‘free’ markets. Do you really believe that 100yrs ago when the oil monopolies and railroad and steel barons controlled the economy,that we had ‘free’ markets? What an ignorant statement…

          • Denniso

            Palin12…too bad for your loss of the ‘shoe in’ Angle. She couldn’t beat an old,uncharismatic candidate like Reid…not even close. Lick your wounds,’man up’, and greet another day w/ the Dems in control of most of the Gov’t. The sun will still shine on you if you smile and act like a grownup about your devastating loss.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            The moment we stop protecting and defending Israel, is the moment we are finished. Do you not understand that?

        • old white guy

          there is only one reason why muslima hate us. it is called islam. the so called holy book, the qoran, exhorts the followers to kill or enslave us any other reason is just plain bs.

          • Vicki

            Do they actually hate the infidel or are they just supposed to kill them?

          • LeRoyZ

            That doesn’t make sense. Islam is not the reason, Islam is the religion, isn’t it?

          • Robert S

            OWG Why are you bringing up Islam. We are talking about the elections.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            It is the classic tale of good versus evil. Christianity, Jesus Christ, is prevalent in these United States. It represents all that is good, righteous and wholesome. Islam is evil. Straight from the bowels of Satan. It says kill, kill, kill, hate, hate, hate, all things of Satan. Now these Islamic terrorists, see the evil going on in this country, what with the pornography, drug abuse, prostitution, and they arent smart enough to understand that Christians are against these things. They associate the western culture with Christianity, and its just not that way. However, as Christians, we dont believe in going out and killing people that go to strip clubs, bars, brothels, or do drugs. We believe in trying to help them see the light, and praying for them that God may deliver them from these things that keep them from enjoying the good life that God has planned for them. Many are missing so many blessings God has for them, because they keep rejecting Him and insist on living in darkness. But still we Christians pray for them, as we want them to have the light that we have received. However, the Muslim Islamics, seek to kill anyone who thinks anyway different than they do. They want to kill the guy that goes in the strip bar, because he is an infidel to them. And they want to kill be because I worship Jesus Christ, the true and only living God there is. I am an infidel to them also. That is the difference between Christianity and Islam. Christians want the light to be in people, and pray that God will provide that, as we cant, only God can. Muslims see you do something different than what they do, and your deemed only worth of death to them. Big, big difference.
            So you people out there that like to bash us Christians, just be aware that we are no danger to you. We seek to help you, and want the good things in life for you. The muslims want you dead. Thats the true picture. Thats why the Bible says our battle isnt against flesh and blood, its against spiritual forces. Satan roams around looking for people to devour. He has devoured this whole middle eastern religion.

          • vicki

            “Islam is evil. Straight from the bowels of Satan. It says kill, kill, kill, hate, hate, hate, all things of Satan. Now these Islamic terrorists, see the evil going on in this country, what with the pornography, drug abuse, prostitution, and they arent smart enough to understand that Christians are against these things. They associate the western culture with Christianity, and its just not that way.”

            Ok I am confused as to your point. If Islam is of Satan and pornography, drug abuse, prostitution is evil I.E. of Satan why again are those committed to Satan trying to destroy western culture which you claim is also of Satan?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Because they masquerade as being above this stuff, but they are not. Just like all of the 9-11 bombers, all had receipts from porno theatres and were know to have bought hookers, yet their religion forbids it, but they partake of it. They consider us evil, because we have these things in our country, and they are right, it is evil stuff. Am Im a Christian and I reject this stuff. But I dont strap a bomb on the back of my 6 year old and have him walk into a theatre and blow it up. And really, neither do they. They walk into a crowded mall and do it, instead of attacking the so called evils, they just blow up innocent people, because to them, all American’s are evil and must die, when the truth in fact, is they are evil. To even conjure up thoughts of blowing yourself up, to go into a mall with women and children you dont even know, and blow them up, because their skin is different than yours, and their nationality is different than yours, and their religious beliefs are different than yours, is straight from the bowels of satan himself. If you dont understand that, and cant make the connection, then I cant help you. Evil doesnt care who it kills. They kill themselves all the time. It is a hate filled religion, whose very tenants declare that anyone who thinks different from what they do, is an infidel, and deserves to be put to death. You can call that peaceful if you want, but myself, knowing clearly and seeing clearly in my life, as to what is from God, and what is from Satan, the picture is pretty clear about these guys. And yet while they would love to take me out and cut off my head, and yours too mind you. Yet I, and my fellow Christians as followers of Jesus, will pray for them, and would love nothing more than for them to have their eyes opened and find the love and peace only knowing Him can bring, and that may have eternal life in Heaven after they leave earth. Instead, many of them kill themselves, in the act of killing others, and the just reward for that is ending up that one fine day being thrown into the lake of fire. So Im not sure just what you dont understand. Evil consumes evil everyday, it always has, and it always will. Evil doesnt give, it takes and consumes. Anymore questions, I would be glad to try to help give you an answer. Have a good day.

        • crystals10

          Ok, well then can you point out a viable set of Dem candidates? Perhaps one that wont send all our jobs to other countries? How about one that supports our 2nd amendment rights to bear arms? I am fed up with all these high paid liars!!! Vote with a conscience, and do your research on each candidate before you go to the polls. Let’s take back America NOW!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            There is no viable set of democrats. Not now anyhow. That guy in West Virginia that is against Obama’s policies isnt bad though. Unless he was lying to get elected.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Your not even close as to why the terrorists hate us. Your looking in the wrong place. They hate us, because we represent Christianity. They are muslims, running around in darkness blinded by satan. They seek to put out the light in the world, which is America that brings goodness, fairness, and light of Jesus Christ. That is the sole reason they hate us. Satan leads them into battle against the light. However, we are imperil here, as we keep pushing God to the curb and kicking Him out of everything and everywhere. There will come a time, when He tires of it, and He will remove His hand from us and allow a lesser enemy to take us over. But He will always save a remnant for Himself, as He always has, and He always will. Only this time, the remnant just may be all that He saves, as the end times are near. Could be next week, could be 100 years, only He knows. But it is coming.

          • vicki

            If they hate us at all they do so because we are NOT Muslim. They are instructed by their belief to kill NON Muslim. Christians, Jews, Atheists etc makes no difference. The SINGLE defining factor is NON Muslim.

            Now as I remember there is an opportunity to live in the Muslim world as a slave (Submitting to Islam even though not a believer) and paying Jiziah as long as you are a Christian or Jew and useful to Muslims.


          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Vicky, you say “if they hate us”. If? If? Come on, I think its pretty clear, I mean they said they are going to kill us. They kill themselves trying to kill us, and have said they will not rest until they kill us or die trying to kill us. In everyway possible, they have vowed death to us. Not tolerance. Not trying to live beside us in harmony, like we promise them they can live in the United States free to practice any religion they like. No, they will not tolerate Christians, Jews, Catholics or anyone different than themselves. And you say if? This kind of thought pattern is what gives them the power to go on, and empowers them to continue in their destructive path, because people like you give them a free pass. Meanwhile, they would like nothing more than to cut your head off on live TV in front of millions, while their followers cheered them on. Those are the facts, and its not pretty, but its reality.

          • vicki

            Beberoni says:
            “Vicky, you say “if they hate us”. If? If? Come on, I think its pretty clear, I mean they said they are going to kill us. They kill themselves trying to kill us, and have said they will not rest until they kill us or die trying to kill us.”

            That is not evidence of hate. That is evidence of commitment.

            Beberoni: “In everyway possible, they have vowed death to us. Not tolerance. Not trying to live beside us in harmony, like we promise them they can live in the United States free to practice any religion they like.”

            We would be fools to allow the practice of ANY religion they or anyone else likes. There are lots of religions out there that still believe in sacrifice. Animals are not always the object of said sacrifice.

            Beberoni: ” No, they will not tolerate Christians, Jews, Catholics or anyone different than themselves. And you say if?”

            They will tolerate Christians and Jews in particular as long as we submit to Islam and pay the head tax on the Dimmuni(sp).

            The definition of hate:
            a : intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury.

            Since all the ones I have heard of are out to kill us because their RELIGION says we should die and who knows how many do it for the promise of paradise I do not see “fear, anger or sense of injury”
            Of course they are hostile but what is the aversion?

            And does their hate or lack thereof matter. All that matters is their ACTIONS.

            Beberoni: “This kind of thought pattern is what gives them the power to go on, and empowers them to continue in their destructive path,”

            What empowers them is their RELIGIOUS belief. Use that belief to our advantage.

            Beberoni: ” because people like you give them a free pass.”

            And what free pass would that be?

            Beberoni: ” Meanwhile, they would like nothing more than to cut your head off on live TV in front of millions, while their followers cheered them on. Those are the facts, and its not pretty, but its reality.”

            I have been warning for years those not at all pretty, but quite, real facts.

    • JC

      When did Ron Paul become a Democrat?

      • Bob Wire

        wondering that myself ? Wasn’t he a Libertarian? typo my guess?

        • JC

          Gotta be a typo. He’s actually a Republican Congressman, with Libertarian leanings. A small “c” conservative and Constitutionalist.

          • BrotherPatriot

            I noticed the same thing…yeah, he’s (R-Texas)…

            Good morning, everyone…pretty excited for tomorrow but I am alittle dissapointed at the same time. Here in Washington State there was a man named Clint Didier…he was runnin for the Republican nomination but lost to Dino Rossi. Nothing against Dino but he did have 2 elections stolen (the first time his Democratic opponent had the votes recounted 3 times…each time gaining more votes until the 3rd recount gave her the win)…and if that were me, I would have thrown a tantrum. Dino pretty much stepped back quitely. The next cycle he ran against her and lost again. Here we are approuching the 3rd time and honestly…Clint Didier was supported by the Tea Party (Sarah Palin endorsed him…which in the end didn’t matter)…and in my opinion Clints idea’s were sound and he seemed a solid American Statesman willing to step up to the plate. But instead…we have Dino again. So my point is…I feel like manipulation is already occuring and once again I’m being given the choice between 2 evils. Of course I’ll vote for Dino but…sure wish Clint Didier was the one my vote would go for. Even if I write him in…it will only take votes away from Dino…so Dino it is. I believe Clint would have done a betta job of it. There’s my 2 cents…but yes, I’ll be votin tomorrow you can be sure of it!

            God Bless AMERICA!

          • Wanda Murline

            To Brother Patriot: I know how you feel…we had a new conservative that was gaining in the polls runnind against the Republican Governor who has been in office for 3 terms and one of the Texas Senators. I was very mad at Glenn Beck over this because he told us to find good conservative, constitutional candidates…we did…her name was Debra Medina, and Beck finally gave her some time on his radio show…he literally sabatoged her and made fune of her, and talked about how good looking our present Governor Perry was…kinda like Chris whatever did about Obama sending chills running up his legs. After Beck completely demonized our candidate, she lost the percentage she had gained after winning two TV hosts with the other two people. I was sooo disappointed, but rather than vote for a Democrat who is a former mayor of Houston and gave sanctuary to illegals and almost bankrupted Houston, I stayed the course and voted for the Republican. It will take us a little more time to flush all the toilets, but if we stand together as a grassroots and keep our standards high, we will eventually have clean drain pipes. Vote this Tuesday like your life depends on it, because it does.

          • Christin

            Bob Livingston,
            Great article… you state what we fear that the Republican wins may not lead to a Constitutional Conservative majority… if the elections are not so fruadulent as they showing to be.

            Bob does state that Ron Paul of Texas is a “Republican” (not Demo), but I think Ron Paul is actually a Libertarian running under the Republican banner… Just like the Tea Party backed Constitutional Conservatives are running under the Republican party as well.

            I agree that Glenn Beck’s comment about Candidate Debra Medina being a truther or what ever it was had a devistating effect on her. As she said we don’t have all the facts in … was it a real muslim attack on 9/11 or a false flag attack with help behind the scene??? I voted for Debra Medina anyway. My brother and sister -in-law went to see Debra and listened to her and they said she was the one to vote for.

            I still listen to Glenn Beck on FOX as I think he and his research team are finding out much about America… that which is good with the Founders, God and the Constitution and that which is bad with its’ evil tenticals in the various socialsit/communist groups funded by George soros. Glenn has the right idea and is on the right path, but he should just stick with the truth as it is known about the candidates and not read into things that are not yet known.

            My spouse voted for Perry with his Highway 69 from Mexico to Canada and we canceled each other’s votes out. Perry is definately a better candidate than Socialist Dem Bill White who wants to take all our rights away and force obamacare on us.

            Speaking of nobamacare… see what lack of care you will get and what they will force Doctors to do (that stay in the business) and how they will punish physicians if they don’t follow the DC health panel to give you lousy care…

            Go to:

            …and see what is in the obamacare law instore for ALL of us whether a Rep, Demo, Ind, or Lib.
            Better vote in people who are professing to REPEAL and DEFUND obamacare.
            (Shoot we were about to go through this with hillary clinton… any one remember hillarycare?)

    • mrdave98765

      So what have we learned in 2 millennia???

      “The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.”
      Cicero – 55 BC
      Evidently nothing…

      • Bitter Libertarian

        Nothing.. as long as our Money is controlled by a Private Bank…AKA the FED RES, we are doomed.

    • eddie47d

      The term “compassionate conservative” was more hopeful hype than reality.It went the way of the dinosaur and many Republicans rejected it outright. The term took away their “tough guy” image that they wanted to perpetuate. Sadly the Right ended up being about as compassionate as Hannibal Lector. I know you are going to say that the Democrats are too good at giving away other peoples money, so save your breath.

      • Bob Wire

        I think “compassionate conservative” & “thousand point of light” was “H” Bush attempt to put a softer face on the GOP and pick up some swing votes.

        an attempt to change the GOP image of being harden and calloused to the needs of the “working man”

        While maybe sounding good to some, just another attempt of the Tiger changing his strips, as still today the GOP wrestles with an image problem.

        That the Tea Party wishes to put their own “Brand” on the GOP is “Noble” in many ways perhaps but the Tea Party still shows us, they too, are disconnected from the majority of “WORKING” American as they wish to return to the past, to a place, no one can ever return to, as much as we might wish it so.

        To complain about Federal Taxes that are as low as they have ever been I suppose. To complain about the national debit while defending taxs cut. To complain about 8 million for main street stimulus as main street has been a victim of Wall Street,the recipient of a huge bailout. The Tea Party truly does not represent the average American but a fractured splintered disenfranchised group of the GOP with common core 2nd amendment rights that wish to believe they are under attack. (and they are right! but has little to do with guns at this point)

        Health Care Reform will not be repealed as too many people will have scrambled into positions to benefit from the adjustment on the supply side by the time enough power has been mustered to ever attempt it.

        “It will behoove the establishment to understand once and for all that the Tea Party is not interested in Republican Party insider politics as usual and has no interest in playing their silly political parlor games. Karl Rove and his establishment ilk can denigrate king-and queen-maker Sarah Palin and Tea Party favorites like O’Donnell and prove their own irrelevance and allow the Republican Party to die, or they can embrace Tea Party candidates and change the GOP’s paradigm.”

        I personally believe you’ve got the tail wagging the dog. The Tea Party will be but a footnote in history, but I don’t wish to discourage your efforts to work inside the system for change. I feel many of you expect too much,too soon from all your vibrato and efforts.

        This attempt to break government interdependency is only as good as the people behind it. ~ it needs to start at the local level before it goes to the Hill. But that’s not what we see happening. You can get the Fed off our back only to have City, County and State jump in with both feet. You’d be no better off then when you started. In fact it’d be worse and we’d see Trash Police, Code Enforcement driving your neighborhoods. Traffic cameras on every corner, increases in registration, fines , fees and sorted penalties, “failure to notify in 15 days, failure to register in 15 days, etc. There is no end to administrative penalties.

        Government only wants two things from each of us, our compliance and our money. This the battlefield where each of us fight for our personal liberties.

        I don’t enjoy the notion of politicians holding public office with a hand full of “God’s Will” trump cards myself. How about you?

        • old white guy

          term limits for all and failing to follow the constitution results in immediate recall. failing that use the second amendment. things will change.

          • Denniso

            Compassionate conservative??? Now there’s a lie for you. The overwhelming majority of ‘conservatives’ are only compassionate toward their own families,if even them. They are almost totally lacking in empathy for people not connected directly to them. That’s why they are mostly concerned about money, their money. Most of what they are screaming about is monetary…a couple hundred thousand dead innocents in Iraq? They don’t count at all to most ‘conservatives’. Anyone hear any sadness from the right about that issue?

          • Michael J.

            Compassionate Coservatives, yes that’s us. Built this country from scratch. Defended it from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Because of Political Correctness indoctrination we have been brainwashed into showing empathy towards sexual deviants, illegal aliens and America haters who dream of this countries collapse so they may inflict upon us a socialistic nightmare which has only suceeded in causing the deaths of over 100 million individuals worldwide in the twentieth century alone.
            A now dead dictator of Iraq and his band of associates are responsible for all the dead in Iraq.

          • Denniso

            You’re not showing much compassion,are you…and I’m dreadfully sorry that you and your tribe are so easily brainwashed…too bad for you. Try thinking a little and maybe you won’t be so easily manipulated.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Where do you get the line that federal taxes are lower than theyve ever been? I looked at my check stubs from the last 5 years, and they are not reflecting this. In fact, somehow, mysteriosly, I seem to be having more federal taxes and social security taxes taken out these past two years. Hmm, I wonder how that could be. Has anyone else taken a look at the taxes taken out of their weekly checks? Compare these last two years, against previous years. I dont know how Obama and his boys did it, but they are taking more money from me than was being taken two years ago, and Ive made less money these past two years, so go figure. And wait until he cancels the Bush tax credits, and business’s all over the country start paying more. Millions are sure to lose their jobs. I cant wait until 2012 when we can get rid of the rest of these tax monster losers.

          • Denniso

            If you can’t figure out how much your taxes are compared to what they were yrs ago,then your hopeless. Your company is probably taking more out for health insurance as the rates have gone up in the past several yrs and they are trying to save money by having you pay more. SS has not changed in some yrs and tax rates were lowered by Bush in’01 or so,and are still down. Maybe your company changed your deduction schedule…maybe your state taxes went up? Surely you can solve the puzzle.

    • JRC

      The sad fact is, that for all the hype and all the stirring up of the gullible fools on either side, NOTHING and I mean NOTHING will change. Even the new people will join the corrupt majority within the first six month and it will be in the same ole same ole.

      • Terri

        I have a gut feeling that the tables have turned and that true conservatives, “get it”. I think that the SOS republicans realize that
        “we the people” are not only paying attention, we’re angry and we’re tired and “we’re not going to take it anymore”. For republicans to go back to business as usual will end the party; if that’s what they do. With the tea partys and the internet and communication the way it is now they can’t do what they did and no-one know or hear about it. I have a good feeling that they’re really going to get back to their conservative roots or they too will be exposed and booted out. I also think Barak Obama was meant to be in this position and we were meant to have this far leaning left admininstration in order to wake up the American people to stop being so complacent about our country and what our politicians are doing. Well, most of us anyway. It’s time for people to be held accountable for what they choose to do in their own lives instead of being “taken care of” by the rest of us no matter what choices they make. I have faith…we are exactly where we’re meant to be. :)

        • Season’d Sitizen

          Well said. Thank you!

        • Robert Smith

          “we the people”

          Too many have forgotten “We the PEOPLE” and tried to rely on their GOD.

          They are in error.


          • http://naver samurai

            The only myth on this site is your referring to “the seperation of church and state”, because it isn’t in the Constitution. OK, moron? If you want to debate me on this, I invite you to try. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Denniso

            Samurai…your civility is breaking down. So you and Christine O’Donnell need the establishment clause spelled out for you in big,simple letters? Even most educated ‘conservatives’ agree that it means literally seperation of church and state…You somehow know better than even most of your political allies? It’s only buffoons like O’Donnell,Beck,Limbaugh ,Palin,who are too dumb to understand the wording, and you want to be on their dimwitted side in this?

            Give it up Sam, the battle over the meaning of the 1st ammendent is over…get on board and save your vitriol for another fight against the educated people.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            show me paragraph and line in the constitution where it states word for word separation of church and state!!! You, my ignorant non-friend are the dumbazz not samurai!!!

          • Denniso

            Sorry,but the founders were mostly educated people and thought that average people could understand a simple phrase. You make my point exactly and willingly by demanding to see a word for word comparison like kids in kindergarten. You probably want the constitution written out in large,red,block letters too…so you clueless ones can read it.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Denniso, why are you always so confused and will not listen or examine the facts? The constitution does not say separation of church and state to your degree. It is saying that the government cannot force their type of worship down your throat. Thats it. Your free to worship your cat if you want, and good luck with that. The government cannot come arrest you for it and force you to worship a pile of money, or whatever they want you to worship. Thats what it means, ok. Get over yourself. And we have gone strictly downhill since we kicked God out of schools and government, and will continue to slip down the hill until we reverse course. God’s hand developed this country and made it great, when we gave Him thanks and held His name up high. Now that we have moved Him down, the country has fallen down also. Just the facts man, read em and weap, because its the historical truth. But I know, your a democrat, and you believe in re-writing history to read they way you think it should have been, not the way it really was. Good luck.

          • Denniso

            Let’s try this once again, and I’ll try not to insult your intelligence. Do you understand that worshiping God is religion? In this country it is mostly the Christian,but even if it’s another like Islam,Hindhuism,etc, it is still religion. You said,’when we kicked God out of schools and gov’t’…don’t you get it? God is religion! The establishment clause says that the gov’t cannot make any law w/ respect to religion. That means that the gov’t cannot have a connection to ANY religion,since to force God into schools and gov’t you essentially have to legislate it, write it into the law. Much like the rewriting of the pledge w/ ‘under God’ put into it in the ’50s. It is written into law, and that is exactly what the 1st amendment forbids. A believe in God or Jesus or mohammed is a belief in RELIGION. Making kids recite ‘under God’ is a part of religious belief. Having kids memorize the 10 commandments is religion…having those over a courthouse door is religion. Religion belongs in your heart,home,church…not in taxpayer funded facilities or learning.

            Think about it.

    • Harold Olsen

      Re: George Bush: To quote Charles Krauthammer on “Special Report With Britt Hume” on Fox in November 2008, “George Bush is the most socialist president in the history of this country.” Obama is going out of his way to break that record.

      Re: The RNC: Michael Steele wants to lead the RNC into a politically correct brand of conservatism. Political correctness has no place in true conservatism. True conservatives say was they mean and mean what they say and do not apologize when they hurt someone’s feeling for saying something politically incorrect.

      One of the mistakes Republican politicians are making is that the TEA Party is a Republican movement and is on their side. They think that they are safe. It’s a conservative movement and Republicans who bow to Obama and his agenda are going to pay the price–I hope. Arizona voters seem to be too stupid to realize this since they have re-elected RINO John McCain as the Republican candidate. Should he be re-elected, while he is currently acting like a conservative as he always does when he tries to get re-elected, he will return to his liberalism when he goes back to DC.

      I hope the Democrats lose the majority in both parties after tomorrow’s election. However, I fear that if the Republicans gain the majority, little will change. The Republicans have shown themselves to be weak, sniveling cowards, which may be just as bad as being lying, corrupt Democrats.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Harold Olsen… You have pretty much summed it up. It is now up to the voters to take a long hard look at who they are voting for and why. Too many people vote the way they vote because they do not want to take the time to look at voting records and platforms. So many of the liberals are only voting for those who will be the most generous with tax payer handouts! I hope that whatever happens tomorrow that the Conservatives are only energized by either victories or defeats! Regardless, they need to stand strong and look to 2012 elections.

        • James

          I say give the Republicans (tea party) winners, 60 days to show how much back bone they have, by doing what they were sent to Washington for. If they have not, day 61 starts a new 3rd party!!! One that has no R’s or D’s as the first letter in their name.

          • Denniso

            Please do start a 3rd party, the sooner the better. Make sure you never again vote for a Refub as they are only liberals in RINO clothing. Let the rest of the country watch as you destroy the Refub party and I will celebrate the demise of the worst party on record…good riddance,Refubs.

          • http://GOGGLE vaksal

            YOU must have read my mind,i am thinking the same way,no results this time around,time for a new party? only time will tell.youve said it perfectly.

          • http://GOGGLE vaksal

            YOU must have read my mind,i am thinking the same way,no results this time around,time for a new party? only time will tell.youve said it perfectly.James

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            denniso states he wants to celebrate the demise of the Republicans. I wonder how he feels now that the people have decided to kick 60 plus democrats out and give their jobs to Republicans. Oh denniso, I dont know if there is enough alcohol and drugs in the world for you to numb your pain on this one. Wait until 2012 when the rest of them topple. America learned its lesson, and hopefully the Republicans did also, and now we can put this country back together. Obama could do good things now, if he would only swallow his pride and arrogance, and dump his failed ventures that the democrats led him down, and work with the Republicans to make America better. But he wont. He will follow his parties mandates, and do nothing for the next two years until we can vote him out. And the dems wont let him run for re-election either. I would be totally surprised if they do.

          • Denniso

            I’m afraid your predictions don’t count for anything at all. Obama will fare better w/ the public now that the Refubs will have to work at something,rather than just bitch and work to keep the economy down to hurt Obama. Now,the cowards and selfserving clowns will be held accountable for what they don’t do for the country. Obama wins easily in 2012.

    • hflashman

      Well…looks like the GOP will take the House…which shows there’s a lot of people who are angry at incumbents (not narrowed to Democrats as FOX programs their robots into spouting). Now…can Boehner ‘sell’ the wacked TPers being elected that the standard food for the GOP should continue …i.e. selling us out to Wall Street, big monied foreign interests and the wealthy … that’s the question.

      The GOp talked irresponsibly and wild. The GOP spouted stff which is impossible to carry out. And the GOp is going to now have to walk the walk…which they can’t do in any realistic way. So they sell us out…again.

      Good job folks…and I really mean that. Voting GOP means Obama gets a second term and Congress goes back Democrat in 2012. LOL .. you are going to get exactly what you wished for

      • David

        Flash-pants, are you kidding me? McConnel and the rest on the entrenched gop’ers will be next if they do not conform. obummer is done. His own party (what’s left of it) want him to leave and make room for Hilary?? Really?

        Tomorrow is only step one. How well repubs do in 2012 really depends on how well they follow the freshmen.

        • eddie47d

          David;Win or loose,there will be plenty of fire left in the Democratic Party come Wednesday. They may be out but not down.In my state it is predicted that the Republicans will get less than 10% of the vote for Governor.Which means they would be regulated down to a minor party. Robin;Why do so many on this site predict a Republican victory in 2012,do they have a crystal ball?

          • Denniso

            David is living in a fantasy, but I do hope that he and his ‘tea party’ zealots keep ‘purifying’ the Refub party…chop it down to size so that only people like the ‘witch’ O’Donnell,Glenn Beck,Limbaugh and Palin will remain…I forgot,you can also keep Tom Delay and Michael Savage.

            This election will probably strengthen Obama and the Dems and will ensure a second term for Obama. The fanatical,obstructionist Refubs will now have to act like adults and actually do something productive…will the ‘tea party’ let them? I hope not, so they get booted in 2 yrs…

          • http://?? Joe H.

            dream on dumbnisso!!!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Why eddie? Because most of us have some common sense, and most of us can see that America is sick and tired of the anti American rhetoric coming out of the white house. We are sick of watching billions of our dollars being given to failures like GM and Chrysler to buy future union votes. Were sick of watching our money go to third world countries to pay for abortions there now. Were sick of our taxes being raised. Were sick of the democrats demonizing success and rewarding bad behavior, by expanding government handouts by expanding welfare and food stamps and other social handouts, which were some of the first actions Obama did. Get a stinking job, and quit living off of my back. My shoulders are tired. And eddie, seeing that over 60 democrats were voted out and replaced by Republicans, along with many governors, can you still not see the writing on the wall? If not, then brother, you seriously need some help, because its all their plain as day for all to see. If your in denial that deep, there is a problem brother. A big problem.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        flashman… The Obama administration has done the biggest snow job of selling out the American public I have ever seen. Transparency is one area that comes to mind. And as far as the 2012 election goes, do you have a crystal ball? I think it’s a little early to spout victory for the Obama camp. I can honestly say that those of us who are fed up with all the old rhetoric are gaining numbers, which will become clearer as time goes on. We are sick to death of the lack of ethics, morals, and standards that are so common in Washington and this goes for all parties, not just the liberals.

        • Denniso

          Rhetoric?? You’ve obviously listened to too much from the rightwing side. The Dems have been the cleanest party now for decades. Have you forgotten about Abramoff and Delay already?Cheny, Gonzales?? Your ears are plugged by the crap from Fox and Limbaugh.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            yeah about as clean as that swamp that Nan from booze land keeps promising to drain!!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Democrats clean? OMG man, are you still on PCP or have you graduated to crack? That line alone, that the democrats have been the cleanest party for decades, shows your ignorance to the truth, and your lack of education on politics. Maybe you better read the book “Hell to Pay”, and learn about at least one or two of your left wing hero’s, who indeed, will have hell to pay. Whitewater, Monica, Yugoslavia, Purple hearts for shooting yourself in the butt, using public money to make a parking spot in front of your mansion, Vince Foster murder, Ron Brown murder. Are you kidding me? The democrats clean? Chappaquiddick? How many other things did Ted’s influence get him out of? How many indescressions did JKF have that the left wing liberal media hid? How many more did Clinton have that got covered up, because we all know they couldnt hide them all. Selling top secret technology to China. Selling jobs to Mexico. Your democrats are as dirty as dirt can be, and these things Ive mentioned are just a tip of the iceberg.

          • http://GOGGLE vaksal


          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            Berberoni: good list, don’t forget selling burial plots in Arlington National cemetary to non-veteran Dem. campaign contributors.

          • Denniso

            What a stupid and inaccurate and misleading list…I said the Dems have been ‘cleaner’. Not perfectly clean. If you were worth my time I would list all the crap that has attached to the Refubs for the past 20 yrs. I imagine you think Nixon was framed, as opposed to his being one of the biggest presidential crooks and liars in history. Go ahead, defend the constitution wrecking pig.




    • herman richardson

      With all due respect, I think it is time ofr another 1776, we are getting screwed royally!! If we continue to do nothing, remember HItler, it could happen again, if we keep waiting, stop the madness!!!!!!!!!!

      • eddie47d

        You are right Herman; It’s still hard trying to get over the damage that Cheney brought upon us.

        • Denniso

          These fanatical rightwingers sat patiently and adoringly through 8 yrs of Cheny/Bush…spying on us,civil rights abuses,no bid Haliburton multibillion $ contracts,so called Patriot Act,illegal invasion of Iraq,death and destruction on a massive scale,unfinished wars,in bed w/ the huge drug companies.
          Now, the ‘conservatives’ are mad, and it began as soon as a black man was elected prez, who immediately started to fix the entire mess of Cheny/Bush. One might say their anger is just a little misplaced…

          • http://?? Joe H.

            And you shifty lefties sat adoringly watching as your hero strengthened the patriot bill and FORCED us to buy a product and that is diametrically against the constitution!! but what the hell you children ARE so easily impressed!!

          • Denniso

            If your corporate suckup leaders had allowed a public option or single payer or buy in to Medicare,we wouldn’t be stuck w/ the stupid mandates…that,incidentally, your Refubs supported in Clinton’s attempt and most did now as well. Grassly said mandates are no different than having to buy auto insurance. He’s a fool and wrong,of course, but he and other Refubs supported it.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          The country did well under Bush/Cheney, and I know it and you know it. If not, then why was unemployment at an all time low in this country under them? And why was employment at at all time high under them? And why did the stock market reach an all time high under them? And why were millions of captive people in Iraq set free under them?
          Why did my income double in their eight years, yet take a 10 percent cut 1 year after Obama came in? Why was unemployment at 4.5 percent when Bush left, and 2 years later Obama has it over 10 and rising? When Bush took over for Clinton, we were in a recession, and at his 2 year mark, the economy was rolling good again. Whats Obama’s excuse? Its because lepers like you keep pointing the finger, placing blame on others, instead of your ownselves. Your like a bunch of spoiled brat little rich kids. Just like Obama, after all these people got voted out because of his failed policies and mess up, refuses to acknowledge its because of his failure they got voted out. But no, he has to blame someone else, and this time its us, the American people, including you eddie, that he is pointing the finger at. He says its your fault they had these loses on election day. Yeah eddie, Barack says its your fault. Thats what kind of losers we are dealing with eddie, and soon, the Obummer will be out also. I cant wait.

    • dahni

      Agreed. I plan to increase my involvement in politics, beyond keeping up with most issues and most political statements, for several years. My position is that ALL politicians need to perform their service to government and then go home and get a real job and let someone else serve for a limited time. We need a complete overhaul of government, and that will likely take decades of attention by moderate Americans, because obviously both the Far Left and the Far Right are only concerned with their self-centered agendas.

    • refuse2lose

      Time to come to grips with the fact that our political system is a scam of the highest order. Both parties are playing for the same team….. wake up and smell the Marxism

      • Denniso

        You don’t know what Marxism is, obviously…and it’s pretty simple to see that the Refub party is the party of the rich and big biz…open your eyes and even you can see.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Careful dumbnisso, your slobbering is starting to show. You aren’t worried that those predictions that you made a couple of months ago won’t come true, are you????

          • Denniso

            My last prediction was that we lose the House but hold the Senate, looks like I was right…sure, months ago I thought the public had more sense and that we would hold both houses, but I’m not perfect. The Refubs will now have to actually do something rather than sit back and obstruct and throw firebombs. Obama will look more presidential and sane compared to some of the new kooks elected and will go on to win easily in 2012.

            The best news is that the ‘witch is gone,Angle couldn’t ‘man up’ and Whitman’s $160 million personal spending didn’t buy her a Governorship. All in all, I’m quite pleased given the current circumstances in the country.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          You are so stupid its pathetic. The democrats are the party of the rich, get real pal. Look at almost every election there has ever been. The democratic candidate in almost everyone was far, far richer than the Republican. Now this last one, yes, McCain was richer, but when youve had 70 years to accumulate, verses 40 for Obama, well that says it all. But the democrats are owned by the rich, George Soros, and they own all the TV stations except Fox, and they own all the major newspapers, except for a very small amount, and they own tons and tons of big corporations. In fact, part of Obama’s health care scam was to award some big democrat owned insurance companies with huge contracts. Its all true. Im sick of the lie that the democrats are for the poor and the working man. Its just not true. I was brought up to believe that, but when I CHOSE to get educated on this stuff, and started doing research, I found out that the democrats are far, far richer. And they represent taxing the living hell out of the successful, and demonizing them as rich, then rewarding failures, like GM and Chrysler with billions of dollars. That is the democrat way. Whereas the Republicans, constantly want to cut taxes, and let business’s have their money they have made by doing business the correct way, and they inturn hire more people, who pay taxes, and then more money comes into the federal and state coffers. But the democrats screw this up every time they come into power, with tax, tax, tax the successful. Its a bad way to go, and they arent smart enough to see it, and dumb, uneducated blind followers like you, who fail to do any kind of research, actually think they are the poor guys. Learn up dude, your way off base. George Soros could use a guy like you. He likes people that will do want he wants without asking questions and finding out what they are really doing.

          • Denniso

            OK, S T U P I D…federal taxes are lower than they’ve been in 50 yrs. Look it up. And you’re obviously clueless when you say that Dem candidates are usually richer…wrong,but I’m not going to waste my time looking that up for you either. Get a life…

    • Robert Smith

      I’ll bet Barry Goldwater is looking pretty good now.


      • http://naver sook young

        “People shouldn’t rely on government to solve our problems, government is the problem.” Ronald Reagan. I’ll bet you that Ronald Reagan is looking better than Goldwater these days. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

      • Vigilant

        Barry Goldwater has always “looked good” to common sense people. The hatchet job that was done to him in the 60s by the Dems was deplorable. Most of what Reagan believed in was right in line with Goldwater, God rest both their souls.

  • Give me a Break!

    Not the solution for all our problems, but a step in the right direction. The possibility of a total tea-party or third party control in this country is nearly impossible, but not out of the question. A third party would help balance this country’s imbalance, but more people need to see and be more educated on the constitution and the original ideas of our founding fathers. The next step would be to once again unify the people of this country and once and for all eliminate socialism in any form and go back to the from of Government that our founding fathers intended. This can be done but not immediately, it took a long time to get here, it will take some time to get back. Voting the Republicans back in with a large amount of Tea-party Conservatives would help to change course and help steer this country in the right and only logical direction. At this point, change isn’t instantaneous, buts its all we’ve got.

    • Conservative at Birth

      Those of us who agree with the Constitution of the United States need to take control of the Republican Party not form a third party, and get rid of the RINO’S.

      • J.M.R.

        i agree with c.o.b. the third party would only split the conservatives not lying liberals.

        • JRC

          To make sweeping statements like all liberals are lying is the same foolishness as liberals saying all conservatives are inbreeds and high school dropouts. Sweeping statements like that will alienate more then you think and in the end will divide this country to a point of destruction.

          • RivahMitch

            “Lying” or not, the only good liberal is a dead one. I don’t allow them on my property.

        • Harold Olsen

          I disagree with you. While a third party may split the Republicans, I don’t think it would split TRUE conservatives. TRUE conservatives will support politicians who are TRUE conservatives and not just someone who has an “R” after his name. That is why I don’t consider Newt Gingrich and Sean Hannity to be TRUE conservatives. Gingrich supported the Republican in New York whom he knew to be a liberal but admitted that he supported her ONLY because she was a Republican. Both he and Hannity still consider Scott Brown’s win in Massachusetts to be a conservative victory in spite of the fact that he, like McCain, has voted mostly with the left since taking office. I feared this because, although I had not heard of him prior to him running for the Senate, I learned after he became a candidate that he had a liberal voting record. No conservative victory there. There is talk of the possibility of both Hannity and Gingrich running for president in 2012. Neither would get my vote.

          • MSL

            Hasn’t anyone in the Tea Party thought about doing to the Democrats what they are doing to the Republicans? Getting Tea Party Candidates as nominees?

            One of the problems we have it a highly polarized government. I’m not saying that the Tea Party should stop trying to move the Republican Party back toward constitutionalism, they should. But, why limit the effort to the Republicans? There are a lot of states where Democrats hold strong majorities that can be worked on, too.

            Polarization doesn’t help things, it just makes for conflict. We need to get rid of the Kennedy’s, Bidens, Dodds and Clintons. We also need to make sure that their replacements on the ballots, like that “bearded Marxist” Coons, are not actually worse.

        • Bitter Libertarian

          Actually thats not correct…technically…a Third party would have a greater chance of getting elected if supported by only 35% of the voters! If you take 100% of the Votes and divide it by 2 someone has to get 51% to Win….If you divide it by 3 only 34% majority. Actually defeating the 2 party one party problem only requires a small %. The majority of Voter could want the other 2, and combined, at 66% they are a greater number, but WHO WINS is WHO has the Winning %.

          So the problem isnt no chance its a brainwashed American populance not understanding because it requires more thought and effort on their part to understand. Fo years people looked at the 3rd party after election day and would say..”My guy would have won if those third party voters didnt steal those last few my guy needed to get elected” A Typical negative spin that make it look impossible or counter productive.

          Somewhere I read an article (here?) about the 20% solution? Its actually 35%. :)

      • Patriot

        A third party is not the answer, well said! It is turning the Republican Party back to it’s’ roots. We start with the Republican Party if they do not understand the message, we make them, by voting out all establishment politicians, then we can work on the Democrats. If they cannot understand the Will of the people we will make them by voting out all career politicians more then 12 years you have served long enough especially if you have not demonstrated the basic principles of government restraint. The sleeping Giant has awakened and will not sit idle any longer, stay engaged, Vote tomorrow and stay the course! November 2, 2010 is just the start! Keep the Faith!

        • ALAN E DEBOSKY



          • bruce

            so you would get rid of denfense

          • bruce

            so you would get rid of what

          • http://?? Joe H.

            ALEN D,
            I’ll definately go for getting rid of their raises!! If a raise isn’t warrented for social security and vets disability then a raise isn’t warrented for the politicians!!

        • DaveH

          When have the Republican roots ever advocated Freedom? As long as I can remember they’ve been trying to save people from themselves – gambling laws, pornography laws, drug laws, prostitution laws, etc., etc.
          And the real irony is that none of the above laws work. They only cost us a lot more money for enforcement (that is the ‘us’ that aren’t employed by Big Government).

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            The government cannot save people from these things Dave. And I cant either, and neither can you. None of us can. Only one, Jesus Christ the Lord can save us from anything. I know you dont believe, but one day you will, as you will get your chance to meet Him, as will all of us. But your right, the government wastes billions on the masquerade of fighting these things, when they have no intention of stopping them. The system is set up by lawyers. And lawyers make millions upon millions of dollars nation wide on marijuana trials, and prostitution trials, from public defenders getting paid with our tax dollars to defend the guy with nothing that gets busted, to the high profile F.Lee Bailey type attorneys who represent drug dealers that are millionaires that get caught. They pay the lawyer, the lawyer pays the judge, and the guy walks. All because lawyers have no scrupples and no morals, and money is their god. It is written Dave, that man cannot serve both money and God. And since lawyers seem to pretty much have no conscience about setting the guilty free, I would deem it a save bet that they have no Jesus Christ in them, or they wouldnt do these things. Just a thought.

      • Bob Wire

        Conservative at Birth says;

        “Those of us who agree with the Constitution of the United States need to take control of the Republican Party not form a third party, and get rid of the RINO’S.”

        ““During his eight years in office, President Bush spent almost twice as much as his predecessor, President Clinton. Adjusted for inflation, in eight years, President Clinton increased the federal budget by 11 percent. In eight years, President Bush increased it by a whopping 104 percent,” de Rugy writes.”

        Hey! you are late! ~ and the only reason you are late is, “why”?

        Tell us why you are so late. I’d like to hear it. “I’d like to understand this “Tardy-ness”, something that makes sense besides blaming it on a democratic congress that was held hostage to commitments that they themselves did not make!

        I’d like to understand why you would wish us to believe “You Get It” and now you have the cure.

        Forgive me , for I’m not attempting to pick any “one person” out personally for this ” support ” for “W” his administration and out of control spending. But he flew a GOP Banner.

        • dahni

          Who got Stimulated?

          Jobs Gained or Lost Since The Start of the Recession
          Federal Government: +198,100
          State Government: -6,000
          Local Government: -128,000
          Private Sector: -7,837,000
          Budgets do not come from the White House. They come from Congress, and the party that controlled Congress since January 2007 is the Democrat Party. They controlled the budget process for FY 2008 and FY 2009, as well as FY 2010 and FY 2011. In that first year, they had to contend with George Bush, which caused them to compromise on spending, when Bush somewhat belatedly got tough on spending increases.
          For FY 2009 though, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid bypassed George Bush entirely, passing continuing resolutions to keep government running until Barack Obama could take office. At that time, they passed a massive omnibus spending bill to complete the FY 2009 budgets.
          And where was Barack Obama during this time? He was a member of that very Congress that passed all of these massive spending bills, and he signed the omnibus bill as President to complete FY 2009. Let’s remember what the deficits looked like during that period:
          Deficit: in Billions(approximate)
          2000 +236
          2001 +150
          2002 -200
          2003 -380
          2004 -410
          2005 -320
          2006 -300
          2007 -250
          2008 -420
          2009 -1,850
          2010 -1,400
          Projected: 2011-2019 -800 to -1,200 billions

          If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the FY 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets. That deficit was the lowest in five years, and the fourth straight decline in deficit spending. After that, Democrats in Congress took control of spending, and that includes Barack Obama, who voted for the budgets. If Obama inherited anything, he inherited it from himself.

          In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th.

          • BigBadJohn

            High school civics

            The PRESIDENT submits a budget to the congress laying out what he wants to see and what he will accept. The congress then writes a budget, if they so chose they can ignore the presidential request, but that is a guaranteed veto. The congress then submitts the budget to the Senate, where they approve, change, delete or completely stall the budget. Once the Senate is done with it they submitt it to the president. If the provisions that he requested are not in the budget – HE VETOS IT.

            The PRESIDENT with his veto power has more power and say in the budget than congress and the senate COMBINED, unless the congress and the senate can come up with 2/3 of the votes to over ride his veto.

          • Bob Wire

            “In a nutshell, what Obama is saying is I inherited a deficit that I voted for and then I voted to expand that deficit four-fold since January 20th”

            In a nut shell ~ he didn’t either? ~ he opposed the war and opposed the spending ~ but overrode. ~ As I say before 110 & 111 congress is being held hostage

          • Bob Wire

            “If the Democrats inherited any deficit, it was the FY 2007 deficit, the last of the Republican budgets.”

            “IF”?????? “W” attempted the Reaganomics 23 ski doo Play, Fake left and go right play. Leaving the nation in an deficit spending and increased national debt.

            “Reagan very significantly increased public expenditure, primarily the Department of Defense, which rose (in constant 2000 dollars) from $267.1 billion in 1980 (4.9% of GDP and 22.7% of public expenditure) to $393.1 billion in 1988 (5.8% of GDP and 27.3% of public expenditure); most of those years military spending was about 6% of GDP, exceeding this numbers in 4 different years. All these numbers had not been seen since the end of U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War in 1973.[14] In 1981, Reagan significantly reduced the maximum tax rate, which affected the very wealthy, and lowered the top marginal tax rate from 70% to 50%; in 1986 he further reduced the rate to 28%.[15] As a result of all this, the budget deficit and federal debt increased considerably: debt grew from 33.3% of GDP in 1980 to 51.9% at the end of 1988 [16] and the deficit increased from 2.7% in 1980 to more than double in 1983, when it reached 6%; in 1984, 1985 and 1986 it was around 5%.[17] In order to cover new federal budget deficits, the United States borrowed heavily both domestically and abroad, raising the national debt from $700 billion to $3 trillion,[18] and the United States moved from being the world’s largest international creditor to the world’s largest debtor nation.

            [19] Reagan described the new debt as the “greatest disappointment” of his presidency.[18]”

            I don’t suppose we’ll hear “W” admit to such a thing?

          • Bob Wire

            Not to mention, ~ there still more of the stimulus money yet to be spent for various reason. It was never the plan or intended to just be dumped into the system like a tablet that was to bring instant relief.

            In some cases GOP Governors has sandbags programs in hopes of midterm GOP political gains that so many knuckle heads seems so willing to buy into.

            It didn’t work! I told you so! The same person being most willing to ignore the promise of tax cuts “creates jobs and stimulates the economy”

            It’s just a matter of what we seem to be willing to focus on.

            Myself , I try hard to look at “ALL” of it. I don’t watch the news, I do watch C-pan on occasion. I read the news and events.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I will agree to the point that Bush didnt get spending under control, as I thought he would. However, when looking at the so called amount Bush spent, people often fail to consider in, all the costs associated with 9-11 and Hurricane Katrina. They also fail to take into account, that Bill Clinton had cut the military and intelligence communities almost in half, and it took a great deal of spending to get them both back up to par where the country could be safe again. That is a lot of cash to spend doing this. Then one of the biggest expenses at the onset of a war, is the getting all the men and material to the war zone. Astronomical cost. Now there are those who would say, “well we shoudnt have gone to war”. Ok, then we could have sat there like Clinton, and let them blow up the World Trade Center basement the first time, and the USS Cole, and the setting up and planning of 9-11, and not do anything about it, which is what he did. And we could have sat back and let Saddam control the whole middle east, and just trash it all like Hitler did to Europe before we acted. And he would have been a lot more powerful had we waited until then. I thank God George W. Bush had the moxy to stand up for us against an enemy that has sworn death to us, and that struck us more than once already. Im glad he wasnt a pacifist like Clinton. But back to the point, all this stuff costs money. What do we have to show for it? A cleaned up 9-11 site, a recovered Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama and Georgia, a free country of Iraq. Now Barack has came in, and in his first 8 months, he spent more that the Bush admin did in 8 years. What do we have to show for it? Unemployment has climbed from 4.5 to over 10 percent and rising. The enemy has been emboldened and empowered by him providing them lawyers to defend them. But financially, we have nothing good to show, just one failed thing after another. Well, the democrats did spend some of those BILLIONS on buying future UAW union votes by giving them all that cash. But weve nothing to show, and you want to give him a free pass. Aint that special.

  • Dan az

    If all the libertarians would change there status to republican/libertarian
    then we could eliminate the problems with voting third parties as did Ron Paul.We need them in to bring back the constitution and the bill of rights.I don’t like the Idea of another two years of rino republicans we need the changes now not latter.I don’t like taking chances that votes would be lost because some people are afraid the third party would not stand a chance because they have never won one yet.So lets let them no they need to change the ballots so we can get the most needed in.It seems simple to me,maybe because I’m just simple minded.

    • CJ

      Unless somebody runs who will support the Constitution, the problem won’t go away. You can’t fix a problem when you only have defective parts to choose from.

    • alpha-lemming

      Wish you were right. The rap against Republicans/social conservatives (certainly some justification in the indictment) has always been, “they want to control what occurs in your bedroom”. The problem with Dem/prog/lib/commies (also documented and demonstrably provable) is “they want to control what occurs in EVERY room, your wallet, your car, your yard, your kids’ head/school/ciriculum, your charities/passions, and your religion”.

      There’s more, but the sentence was already in danger of going “runaway”.

      • Bob Wire

        “The problem with Dem/prog/lib/commies (also documented and demonstrably provable) is “they want to control what occurs in EVERY room, your wallet, your car, your yard, your kids’ head/school/curriculum, your charities/passions, and your religion”.

        I guess name calling is still in vogue? I think you are getting the Fed mixed up with the state.

        since it’s documented and unique to the DNC as you say, it should be an easy matter of offering support rather then inferring support.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I dont know what you are talking about, when you say the Republicans want to control what goes on in my bedroom. They have never pressured me that way, and they have never tried to move into my bedroom, and if you feel that way, maybe your doing something that you know you shouldnt be doing, or something like that, because personally, Ive never felt that from anyone, anywhere, and I refuse to. But then again, Im not doing anything wrong or disgusting or imorral in there.

  • Vigilant

    With all due respect, Bob, this article should have been published the day AFTER the election, not the day before.

    The tenor of the article leads one to believe that it’s a pre-election sour grapes gripe that not enough Tea Party and/or Libertarian candidates have been put forward for consideration.

    While that may be true (and I agree with you), today is not the time to be throwing cold water on the fervor and motivation of voters to get out and rid the halls of Congress of the left wing masters who would ruin this country. We who believe in the Constitution need all the votes we can get.

    Tomorrow will indeed be a first step. Let’s remember that having most Republicans elected or reseated (with the exceptions of Snowe, Collins and Graham) is still infinitely preferable to putting up with the likes of Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Waters, and Durbin.

    • Soldier

      I would say that most visitors to this website are either paid operatives or genuine constitutional conservatives like me who know damn well what is at stake. I have already voted anyways.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Soldier, they are many more folks on here who know whats at stake and why. When a Country becomes more corrupt than honest, it begins to crumble. Point is, is there anyone left either in public office currently or running for one, who’ll stand up for us before it crumbles completely.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          very true!! I’ll be 60 next month and I haven’t missed a vote since I was eighteen years old!!! I was at the polls at 6:45 this morning!!! The four of us walked over as usual!!!

          • Angel Wannabe

            JOeH, I missed one time and I’m 54, my Mother was not expected to live, I was at the hospital.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Anyone, and I mean anyone, who would take any money from, is a moral leper and has lost their way in life.

    • Bob Wire

      “With all due respect, Bob, this article should have been published the day AFTER the election, not the day before.”

      Struck me the same way Vigilant.

      Bob’s hedging his bets it seems like to me. And then too, a writer that must produce something almost everyday that is insightful, is constantly under the gun, looking for an angle a way into a story.

      By election days end, what will be the story? How much time does a writer have to create a good piece? not much , I figure.

      It’s down and dirty, read’em and weep tomorrow.

      I’m not worried and I’m not scared. Will I celebrate? probably not.

  • Angel Wannabe

    Alot of people I hear saying, they are tired of voting for the lesser of two evils, quite frankly that’s the reality we’re left to vote for. If a box with the word frustration beside it was on the ballot box, most of us would check that. If we keep the likes of whats in the White House now, we’re screwed. If we vote newbies in there, along with the career politicians, are the newbies going to be strong willed enough, NOT to end up being corrupted too.__No matter what you do, or how you vote, It’s all a risk!!!__ We need Representatives Staying in touch with the American people, instead of locking themselves away in the DC Utopian bubble. But more importantly these politicians need to be LISTENING to the American, People and not doing anything they damn well please, just to further their own agendas. It will be interesting to see if, Washington does change hands tomorrow, how much this group will play into to hands of the Financiers, those who pull the strings. At best I’m hoping for a more balance in the House and Senate. Cynicism and skepticism among the voting public is rampant, and lying politicians, financiers( the puppet masters) are the biggest threat we’re facing._Question is, will anything change?__Time will tell._ And we’ll be watching!

    • Soldier

      This is why the tea party needs caffeine and become the coffee party (not the democrat hijacked coffee party). We need civil disobedience to bring out the K-9s, water cannons, etc. Its time we live free no matter the costs. Just becuase tyranical laws pass, doesn’t mean we have to actually obey them.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Actually some teas have more caffein than coffee!!! Just make sure THAT is the TEA the party uses!!!

    • eddie47d

      You are so correct Angel. Unless we can change the financiers (puppet masters ) in our country it will be business as usual. The new members will soon fall under their spell.

      • s c

        Woof! Give it up, Eduardo. You keep making the same mistakes that some libertarians and some conservatives make. That is, you see what you’re supposed to see, and you don’t put much effort into seeing what you need to see or recognizing the difference.
        Until you learn the difference(s) [no, I won't hold my breath], you’re clueless today, you’ll be clueless tomorrow, and you’ll be clueless a year from now (consistent, aren’t you?). “Financiers”
        are only part of the problem. Do you REALLY think your role models and icons are never in bed with financiers or their Wall Street puppets?
        The idea that your controllers are above being ‘influenced’ by money proves that you’re a willing robot for people who couldn’t care less how well you’ve been ‘trained.’ When they no longer need your “talents,” you’re history, dude.
        By the way, wasn’t that NEAT when Stewart called The Anointed One a dude on TV?

        • Bob Wire

          Don’t watch TV , Stewart who? Was it “neat” or just “funny”?

          and yes, the wealthy have but one vote to vote their “Interest”. Being greatly out numbered at the polls, they have devised cleaver little games for people to play and make the average American feel vested with the wealthy, willing to vote their vote while they really have very little in common.

          Who could blame them? I surly don’t, it’s necessary, required, of you are a person of great wealth, you must protect yourself. They found good friend to help them out on Capital Hill inside both camps.

          They can make people rich or make them less rich. They can build you up or tear you down.

          Special interest is a force not to be ignored. I see no way around it.

          Unless you can take the money out of politics.

          I don’t dislike the rich or envy them for their lot in life. They have to deal with the greed and corruption of other in a much bigger way then I do.

          I’m grateful for such a blessing. I’ve got my hands full keeping the thieves out of my work trucks and cooper scroungers off the roofs of my office building.

          But I tell you one thing, I’d never smoke cigarettes named “Sky Walker” or give my life saving to a man name “Madoff”.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          the best one was when the one pol told Nobummer to take his reccomendation and shove it!! I know that isn’t the proper word but I’m having writers block at the moment!!!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        That would be the fed, and the democrats owner, George Soros. No doubt about it.

    • Harold Olsen

      I AM through voting for the lesser of two evils. When you do that, the result you get is evil wins. I live in Seattle, and the choices for the Senate we have in Washington State are Patty Murray, who is rated the most stupid member of the Senate and whom the rest of the Senate muzzles so she doesn’t make speeches that have sound bites that show just how stupid she is (in one of the debates she bragged about helping to write the Obamacare legislation), and Dino “I’m not a politician I’m a businessman” Rossi. He claims to be a conservative and oppose abortion but won’t sign the “Sanctity of Life” pledge or pledges to cut wasteful spending or to lower taxes. I believe it’s because he would not keep those pledges and if he won and ran for re-election it would be used against him. Also, it gives him an excuse to vote with the left. He claims he won’t sign them because he will not let anyone tell him what to do and that says to me that he will NOT listen to the will of the people and we have enough idiots who won’t listen to the will of the people in DC as it is and we don’t need another one. I wrote in Clark Didier’s name on my ballot. He just happened to be the TEA Party candidate.

      • BrotherPatriot

        I feel the same way Harold…matter of fact I wrote sumtin up above in an earlier comment. Oh…his name is Clint Didier…and I really want to cast my vote for him as well…but it worries me immensely that might split the vote away and give Patty Murray the win.

        So what to do…write in Clint Didier which there isn’t enough educated Washingtonians aware of even who he is thus splitting the vote for a Patty Murray win…or vote Dino Rossi to help get her out for sure? I’m honestly torn. I really, really, REALLY want to write in Clint…but I feel the smartest move is to throw the vote to Dino.

        *sigh* Guess I’ll find out tomorrow what I’ll do. Damnit! Wish Clint had won the Republican nomination…him losing the nomination has sent my Spidey Senses just a tingling!

        • DaveH

          Voting for a candidate who you don’t really approve just rubber-stamps that person’s bad agenda. It would be better to vote for nobody.
          Here’s what I think is going to happen. The Republicans will gain enough seats to become obstructionist (a good thing in my book) but the MSM will hammer that fact for the next two years. If the economy doesn’t improve (and it won’t), the Republicans will shoulder the blame, because, let’s face it, the majority of the electorate is ignorant. They are walking right into the Democrat trap unless the voters start getting really educated in matters economic (I won’t hold my breath for that to happen).
          So, what difference does it make anyway if you throw away your vote on somebody who won’t win, but at least represents what you would truly like to see in a politician?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            The liberals are trying already to rip into Rand Paul. The guy is going to stand by his guns and do what he says. He is going to try to trim government as he says. He is going to send his message to Washington. The liberals are as scared of him as they are of Sarah Palin. How dare someone come in and actually serve the people. They just dont understand that kind of action, and its a sad, sad thing. I hope the guy shakes things up, and Im behind him.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Harold the lesser of two evils are the ones, who say one thing campaigning, get elected and do something, all together different after the election._-Its been going on for decades. Its bad enough we are staring at the real possibilty of loss of our republic, whats even worse is when you can’t trust any one.

  • Michael J.

    Since everyone is bearing their gripes today, I might as well list a couple of mine. In addition to all the obvious:

    #1 We need a confidence vote at the ready when any elected official is not doing a good job. Why should we have to wait 2, 4 or six years to fire these lofty civil servants?

    #2 Expose Political Correctness for the covert Cultural Marxism that it is. It’s hard to name one current issue that political correctness is not responsible for. Take time to read the truth.

    • Angel Wannabe

      michaelj, In my opinion, Political correctiveness is nothing nore than mind control lite. It’s the elite driving public opinion. Just like the major new media outlets, only report the liberal side. If you only one side of a problem for long enough, your opinion will shift. Unless if your like us and reconize it.

      • Angel Wannabe

        sorry for typos, fingers ain’t workin yet__lol

        • Joseph C Moore, USN Ret

          There is such a thing as proofreading what you just typed. Corrections at this point will keep you from seeming to be an illiterate.

          • Craig

            Really? Typos make you seem illiterate? By whom? Who makes up this malarkey? I see peoples typos as just that, typos. Has no bearing on their intellect. Just a common mistake. Not like typing a post on the internet is the same as typing a paper for college or business. Your wife wont leave you if you make a typo, nor will your kids. Typos are NBD…No Big Deal.

          • Michael J.

            Joseph C Moore,
            No offense Mr. Moore, but Obama doesn’t need a typing Czar and neither do we.

          • Joyce from Loris

            What a jerk you are, Joseph C Moore, USN Ret. Who made you the “Typo police” anyway? We are discussing issues and ideas here, not in typing class. Brains work faster than fingers sometimes. Everyone here knows the passion of Angelwannabe, and the absolute value her ideas offer to these discussions. Back off.

          • Vigilant

            My guess is that you were a commissioned officer. Am I right?

          • Angel Wannabe

            Thanks all :)

          • Bob Wire

            No Zone for spelling police please. ~ we are not pro’s and proof reading for the dyslexic like myself is 60% at best. ~ And then spell check is a click of a mouse away from just another error.

            I suggest you 86 the attitude and leave it at the door when you walk in. I choose to read with nibble comprehension of what the poster is attempting to presented us.

            For truly wise men rarely write. They are written about.

            This is rapid fire dialogue for the most part and we don’t need any syntax police here. ~ If it gets too bad, say something in a “kind” way or just quit reading it. Easy enough? Myself? I don’t read Caps! I rarely read poor spacing. That’s our personal choice and yours too.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Joseph C Moore,
            Are you by any chance a ring knocker???? You sure as hell sound as up tight as one!!!

      • alpha-lemming

        To respectfully disagree. PC-ness is censorship, plain and simple. Not using certain words or ideas in conversation used to be common courtesy. Now, ALL concepts/words/theories gets the label at every opportunity (can’t say “terrorism” any more) so the left doesn’t have to argue merits, or run the risk of people thinking for themselves.

        The right has a LOT of problems, but I’ve yet to hear one demand of an opponent “he/she be fired and taken off the air”. That thinking’s so common on the left it’s almost cliched.

        • Michael J.

          With due respect, “Political Correctness” was intended to have far greater effects than just censorship. The creators of this outwardly benign term who were disciples of Karl Marx had nothing less in mind than the total breakdown and collapse of western culture in order to institute communism in it’s stead. The fore fathers of this plan have since spawned the likes of Saul Alinsky and Cloward Piven.

          • alpha-lemming

            Agreed…… that WAS always the desired outcome. Censorship (aka control of the language) is merely the vehicle to get there.

        • Vigilant

          Is anyone here old enough to remember George Carlin’s five words you don’t say in polite company? In those days, they were swear words (curse words, actually).

          Today the curse words are in common usage on the airwaves, but you can’t say a host of PC-incorrect ones. How times change.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Vigilant__Oooo _ My hands up to be called on!!!!_lol_ loved the guy!__Even as narrator on Thomas the Train!!

          • bruce

            if you think pc is wrong i dare you to go up to harlmen and yell the N word and live to tell about it

          • Angel Wannabe

            Bruce, Politically correct and down right ignorant is two different things. Calling people slang term names for they’re skin color is down right mean & ignorant, while we have free speech, your asking for a fight, aesthetically speaking. ___ This politically correct crap is what I call “mind control lite”. I blame the Liberal news media b/c they use it politically to drive public opinion in the direction they want it to go. And if used long and hard enough, it changes opinion. If your forced to use words that “other people” decide that are appropriate to use, then your being controlled, and not exercising your full right to speech.

          • libertytrain

            Bruce – the word you refer to has nothing to do with politically correct – that word was considered a nasty word right from the get go.

          • Vigilant

            Angel and liberty:

            Thanks for the support.

            You are correct, of course, and you have the ability to see through the BS put out by the left. They would paint every conservative as a rascist in an attempt to stop a discussion dead in its tracks. Funny thing, they’ve played the race card so often that they don’t realize that even well-meaning liberals don’t appreciate the tactic any more.

            They’ve even gone to the point of not understanding what the word means. If you are a reasonable, clear-thinking person who sees the destruction of our country due to illegal immigration, you are innacurately labeled a rascist. Well, who said the left was smart anyway?

          • Bob Wire

            just exactly what makes you think that the “left” has cornered the market on this behavior? You was make good sense until I got to that point.

            Your Bias seems to be larger then your hat band. I guess it’d be too much to ask that you work on that?

          • Angel Wannabe

            Bob Wire, the reason I believe the left corners the market on driving most of the public opinion, is b/c the left owns pratically all the major news media networks, TV, Newpapers!__ Fox is the only one on TV!_We have radio with Rush, Mark Levin, Glenn Beck, Wilcow on Sirius Herman Cain, and other lesser known news reporters and blogs.__ but I’m no BSer, I’ve listened to our local news media, & world news up until two years ago. They reported nothing, and I mean nothing compared to FOX.

          • Vigilant

            Bob Wire,

            You said, “just exactly what makes you think that the “left” has cornered the market on this behavior? You was make good sense until I got to that point.”

            I would like to know (serious question) what PC behavior is espoused by the conservatives in this country. I’m not being sarcastic here, I’d really like to know.

          • Vigilant

            Well, Bob Wire, I’m still waiting.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I agree Angel. But the problem is, there are an awful large amounts of liberals, who sit around and watch the brain sucker all day, and they are constantly bombarded with the pollutions of the liberal left wing agenda, and they start believing it. I mean I think it becomes like brainwashing them. If they would get a life, and turn the thing off, and do some serious educating of themselves, they might find some truth. I myself choose to research and study things, to find out the truth. Even in church, I dont take what the Pastor says as the gospel truth. I get out my Bible and educate myself to see if God’s word backs up what he says. That is how a lot of people get sucked down the drain in cults, as they listen to the words that a person tells them, then they blindly follow it. The same applies to politics. You cannot blindly follow what they say. Research them and see if their actions back up their words. See if their voting records backs up what they are saying. Too many on the left are just blind disciples, and if they say go drive your car down the sidewalk, they would go drive their car down the sidewalk. Its sad, but its true.

    • TIME

      MJ, I agree with you; just as with any job they should not be covered if they fail at the job, they should be fired ASAP.

      As for the PC crap, its about time to dump that pant load ASAP too.

      • john

        Unfortunately the pc crap is entrenched pretty well now into the mindset of our’s the curriculum of all our school’s the mantra of the’s the money of special pc groups that fills our politicians pockets.The way to fight it is to re-educate your children at home from what they’re taught to accept.The other way is to stand up against it with protest and be ready to be smeared and labled…it’s the call that Christ calls us pick up the cross and follow Him.He was politically incorrect for His time..He endured mockery,abuse,false imprisonment,a sham trial where the witnesses lied openly..He was put to death..but in the end those who did heed His call perservered and won out over their enemies..we too must struggle,sacrifice and persevere and be ready to take the fall as long as others keep rising in our place..otherwise we’ll just keep dancing and singing the same old tune.

  • LiarsMustBeDefeated

    You’re exactly right, and it makes me want to up-chuck.

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    I keep hearing one thing over and over in allmost all the things I read, and people keep saying the politicians need to listen to the people and do what the people want. But there is a problem, an 800 pound gorilla in the room. And that gorilla is, politicians are lawyers, and lawyers tend to think of themselves as smarter and wiser than us, which couldnt be further from the truth. They have, as a part of their job’s as lawyers, practiced daily on twisting the truth and skewing the facts to fit their agenda to win a case. They normally dont care about truth and justice, they care about winning and collecting money. And now, and it has been this way for years, that we have a large group of lawyers, on both sides, fighting for the right to spend our money, its no wonder things are in such a mess on the political front in this country. Lawyers seem to have everything set up, on every front, where to do anything, you have to pay one of them, and at a rate that is rediculous compared to what everyday people earn. And I like I said, most of them could care less about right or wrong, or justice being served. Its all about winning and collecting money for them. And with these motives in their hearts, its no wonder nothing gets done but bickering between the two parties to see who is going to cash in on OUR money. I dont know what we can do to change it, as it would be awful hard to fight lawyer and their endless supply of dollars, so its a sad state of affairs we are in, ever since they lied and cheated their way into power. Lawyers are to blame, as they are ones that have been running this country into the ground for years. Maybe you lawyers should hear this, and do something about it.

    • Dr. Mabuse

      This is an excellent point. I’ve observed that lawyers know very little about the “Law”. But they are trained instead in protocol and procedure. I would go a step further and suggest that our “government” is two tiered… The government that you see…
      (Executive, Legislative and Judicial) corrupted as Beberoni so adroitly put it by “Lawyers” and The Government you don’t see…
      (Faux Aristocrats, Bankers, Multi National Corps. etc.)
      One aspect of the 800 lb. gorilla that Mr. B mentioned is that some of us have been hoodwinked into believing that we have a “choice” and that by pledging our allegence to one camp or another will effect real change. This problem is multi faceted and will require comprehensive thought before knee jerk re action. Kudos Beberoni, I see the wool is coming off of your eyes.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The wool came off of my eyes in 2000 when I accepted Jesus Christ as my saviour. Until then, I never paid attention to politics. I was raised as a democrat by parents who think FDR was the best thing since sliced bread, and still do to this day. But once my eyes and ears were opened, and I started studying and researching this stuff, Ive found the democrats to be, well, lets say this. I do not agree with sucking a live baby out of its mothers womb and murdering it. Ok, is that pretty clear? I hope so. And I dont agree in giving any group more rights and protections than another, so I dont believe in putting gays on a pedestal, where it is forced down my throat and my childrens throat that its ok to sodomize your friend, buts its not Ok to talk about Jesus in a government building. Im sorry, but I dont believe that being sexually perverted like that should be promoted by the government, yet it is. Im offended by it, but they say thats alright. But they arent allowed to be offended, or its hate. Are you kidding me? And I dont agree with our government, catching terrorists trying to kill us, then turning around and paying for lawyers to defend them against us? What the heck is that about? Are we nuts? And there are many, many, more things that these left wing liberal pacifist appeaser democrats do, that I am now fully aware of, and needless to say, not one that associates with them will get a vote from me. None, nada, zero, zilch. Now this isnt to say it will always be that way. It could be in 10 years the republicans go nuts, and the democrats wake up and change their ideals, and I would go with them, as I will vote for the party that represents the ideals close to my heart. And right now, promoting a perverted lifestye and murdering babies, well, that is just not appealing to me. If it is to you, then by all means, vote for them, as this is America. But me, no I will not vote that way.

    • Give me a Break!

      I don’t know how many of you are Christians, I assume its most of you, but my point is that in the bible in the New Testament, Christ literally kick the lawyers out of the Temple because of their lies and corruptions. I see the same things happening with the lawyers in this country, and if we could kicking those lawyers who are politicians out of office, would save us a lot of problems.

      • Teresa

        You might find this article interesting then:

        Exposed! George Soros’ scheme for ‘elite’ judiciary
        How does it happen that a California judge can upend millennia of accepted standards for society by saying that gender plays no role in marriage? Or a court can approve a Florida school district’s deal with liberals to ban teachers from praying – even when they’re off-campus?

        A new report by John Gizzi of the Capital Research Center, to be released within the next few days, has an explanation: A powerful move by very wealthy interests across the United States to reshape the judiciary in the mold of progressives who believe the Constitution should be interpreted through the filter of personal desires.

        And the primary force behind the move? George Soros, the hedge fund billionaire who personally provides the money for a number of liberal advocacy organizations such as

        “Because state Supreme Courts may have a say in redistricting after the 2010 Census is completed it is essential that citizens and state officeholders scrutinize who’s behind efforts to overturn judicial elections,” he said.

        “Voters don’t normally pay attention to state Supreme Court elections but if they don’t start watching them Soros could engineer a judicial revolution. Soros could install judge after judge who views the Constitution as a so-called living document, that is, a worthless piece of paper onto which judges can project their own personal political views. How many Elena Kagans and David Souters can America tolerate?” Vadum asked.

        The report follows an analysis by the American Justice Partnership that confirmed Soros already has spent some $45 million to change state procedures from electing judges to having them appointed – after being nominated by a clique of elites.

        The report, by attorney Colleen Pero, described Soros’ plans to “remake the judiciary and fundamentally change the way judges are selected in the United States.”

        Gizzi’s report explains that Soros wants to remove voters from the process through which judges are nominated, elected or retained. Instead, he wants to have them chosen by elite teams of mostly lawyers, appointed by the politically powerful and protected while in office.

        Gizzi noted the campaigns that have been launched in recent weeks, including the one in Iowa where voters stand a real chance this year of firing three of the state Supreme Court justices who ordered same-sex “marriage” created in the state.

        Similar campaigns are under way in Kansas and Colorado, he said.

        “The common denominator in Colorado, Iowa and Kansas is that Supreme Court justices in these states are initially picked according to a merit selection system,” Gizzi explained.

        “A key player in the emerging battles over state court selections is George Soros. … Soros has contributed more than $45 million over the past decade to several dozen special interest advocacy groups affiliated with an umbrella 501(c)(3) organization called Justice at Stake. … [which] has as its mission the ‘reform’ of the process for selecting state judges.”

        Gizzi continued, “A principal goal for JAS is to replace judicial elections with a system of ‘merit election.’”

        ‘Voters will never get to reject judges’

        “There are many advocates for ‘merit selection’ of state judges, but wherever you look the hand and purse of George Soros, ‘paymaster of the left,’ is obvious. Soros has the resources and the allies. If he gets his way, voters in all 50 states will never get to elect, retain or reject their judges,” he warned.

        So what’s the problem with judges being nominated by attorneys?

        “Of the appellate nominees in Missouri (where judges are nominated by special commissions and appointed) since 1995 who made any campaign contributions, 87 percent gave more to Democrats than Republicans and only 13 percent gave more to Republicans than Democrats,” the report said.

        The apparent intended result of Soros’ campaign is to have a steady stream of Democrat-leaning judges groomed and installed on the bench, the report suggested.

        Just getting the judges on the bench is the major part of the work, since federal judges serve lifetime appointments, and even in state courts there seldom are firings.

        “Sitting judges win retention elections 98.9 percent of the time,” Gizzi reported. “A sample study of 10 states … found that in 4,588 retention elections in 1964-1998 only 52 judges were not retained.”

        In Iowa, where voters are trying to remove three justices, there hasn’t been a judge booted from office in nearly five decades.

        Gizzi quotes historian David Pietrusza, who said, “The idea that appointing court of appeals judges makes for less politics and better decisions is a concept simultaneously elitist and naïve. Political maneuvering has merely moved into a shabbier and more shadowy back room within the house of politics.”

        ‘No such accountability’

        The earlier AJP report said the Soros campaign is “highly-coordinated, well-funded” and is intended to “exclude conservative, rule-of-law judges from the bench.”

        The report noted Soros’ game plan was explained by a retired judge, who said, “I do not mean to suggest that elected judges are necessarily unqualified or corrupt, but rather that merit selection is far superior to selection by election, since the voting public does not have the slightest idea which candidates are qualified or what are the qualifications for a good judge. As I have said previously, there is a suggestion that elections should be retained because they make judges accountable to the people, but there should be no such accountability.” (emphasis added)

        The California same-sex marriage decision was by Vaughn Walker, who determined that voters would not be allowed to define marriage in their own state constitution as being between one man and one woman.

        His opinion said:

        “Religious beliefs that gay and lesbian relationships are sinful or inferior to heterosexual relationships harm gays and lesbians.”

        “Rather, the exclusion exists as an artifact of a time when the genders were seen as having distinct roles in society and in marriage. That time has passed.”

        “Gender no longer forms an essential part of marriage; marriage under law is a union of equals.”
        In Florida, Liberty Counsel has been battling a case in the Santa Rosa County School District in which district officials agreed to comply with an ACLU demand that teachers be banned from praying, even off-campus.

        • Dan az

          So who controls soros’s strings the bildiburgs?It seems to me that we need to go after the ones that pull the strings and the rest of the puppets would just fall with them.I read the article about Santa Rosa school teachers It just amazes me that this crap can be bought by so many and not do something about it.If we dont stop them now we are never going to change anything no matter who we vote in.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Your right Dan Az, nothings gonna change until somethings done about the upper echelon elitists. They may back off pending tomorrows election outcome publicly, but I’d be willing to wager a bet that would only be for show_I think they would continue working toward the destruction of the US behind the scenes, if they are stopped completely.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Sorry Dan fingers aren’t working today___”aren’t stopped completely” is what I meant.

          • Robert S

            Dan Nothing is going to change. If you’re waiting for these armchair Rambos to do something you’ll grow a beard longer than Rip Van Winkle. The Americans have grown soft and don’t have the stomach to fight the system. Even our troops overseas have computers, cellphones and gymnasiums to make it feel like home.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Dan Az, Soros has his hands in everything, and as long as it serves his purpose he’ll do satans bidding.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            To Robert S. – You got a problem with our troops overseas having some nice things? I invite you to go the front of the line then, and see if you then think maybe, just maybe they deserve a little something something. What is the matter with you. Leave our troops and their little bit of comfort alone. That was a bad, bad statement sir.

        • Michael J.

          Thanks for the info. I was unaware of Soros efforts in this area, but I will learn about it thanks to your post.
          The times we live in can sometimes seem overwhelming, but remaining mindful of the sacrifices of our ancestors and the quality of life we wish to bestow upon our descendants drives me to persevere.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            And the scary thing is, is Soros owns the democrats, and they owe him many, many favors, and being that the guy is as un-American as they come, for one, it shows the true leanings of the democratic party today, and two, one has to wonder as to just how low they are willing to stoop to pay this guy back. That is the real question concerning George Soros and the democrats.

      • Bob Wire

        “Christ literally kick the lawyers out of the Temple because of their lies and corruptions.”

        Money changers darling.

        “In this episode, Jesus is stated to have visited the Temple in Jerusalem, Herod’s Temple, at which the courtyard is described as being filled with livestock and the tables of the money changers, who changed the standard Greek and Roman money for Jewish and Tyrian money, which were the only coinage that could be used in Temple ceremonies”

        But I understand your association and you are right! , lawyers probably did have a hand in this event.

        A temple of worship had been turned into a place of commerce and JC took strong exception to it, finding lacking in reverence.

        Quite a political statement I would think and subject of much talk still to this day. A man who taught by example.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          This was God in the flesh, removing this abomination from His Temple. And when He comes again, many, many abominations will be removed forever. That is the hope I am very looking forward to.

  • valricoslash

    One thing the hosue outh to do is recuce funding for all federal departments by about 50 percent. Tha will force them to reduce the number of federal employees which have grow to the point that there is 2-3 employees for every real and necessary job. Reducing the federal payrole will go a long way in reducing the budget.

    • JRC

      Nice way to push the unemployment rate up by another 10 or 15%.

      This will not work unless the employment rate is low and there are enough private sector jobs to absorb them. NO politician in his rightful mind will propose this, they do not want to commit political suicide. What do you believe will happen to the GOP and the tea party if as a result of this the unemployment rate goes through the roof?
      The backlash would be strong enough to keep the democrats in power for the next generation.

      • Michael J.

        How about if the excess federal employees were re-directed to round up illegal aliens for processing and deportation?

      • DaveH

        There will always be that excuse, JRC, even in good times. So should we just keep letting Government drain our economy because it will cause short-term unemployment to fire the useless meddlers?
        I’m not quite ready to throw in the towel, as you apparently are. And I never will be. Our economy would easily absorb those laid-off government workers, if they were out of the way and business could operate in a Free Market.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Like the Dept. of Energy that Carter started, as a department to figure out how to wean us off of foreign oil. Now, all these what is it, 40 years later, we are using more foreign oil than ever, and are now paying over 200,000 people that this dept. has swelled to. If it didnt do what it was designed to do, get rid of it, now. Can you imagine the payroll to fund over 200,000 government employees in this department of Energy? Its got to be a billion dollars or more.

  • gordon claycomb

    how do i forward this to a friend?

    • Brad


      Open your e-mail account, then a new message, minimize all except for the personal liberty page. Okay, now on the personal liberty page go up to the URL bar (The http://) put your pointer on the bar and right click the mouse, select copy from the items in the menu, now open your new e-mail message, right click in the message and select paste, you will see the URL hyperlinked, now send it to your friend. When he receives it all he needs to do is click on the link which will take him/her direclty to this page on personal liberty.

    • libertytrain

      At the end of the last sentence of the article there are boxes that give you choices; print, email, Facebook, etc. Just use one of those or do what Brad suggested.

  • sally

    I agree with Vigilant…tomorrow is time enough to think about the next step. Even if we have to chose from bad and the baddest, bad is better. Hold their feet to the fire and make sure we keep supporting Rand Paul. I don’t even live in that state but he makes more sense than any of the
    Repubs (which are always elected) in my state of Ga. One step at a time.

  • American

    I’m not too happy with the term “fabricated war on terror” Bob. It seems you’re keeping an eye on politics in general, but have turned a blind eye on what’s happening around the world in terms of terror threats.

    • BigBadJohn

      Sorry but the war in Iraq was fabricated. GWB was told by the CIA that Saddam was not a threat to national security and that he had no WMD manufacturing facilities. That report was ignored and Bush pushed on with accusations that Saddam WAS a threat. Right up till the end of his presidency GWB defended his lie.

      Bush was also told by the CIA in 2001 that Al Queda was planning an attack using airplanes as missiles. We do not know the extent of detail beyond that. But Bush did nothing, not even warn the airlines. Big question is, did he let this attack occur so that he could start a war?

      • Jeep

        BBJ, let it go! This conspiracy is getting old. As one who has participated in the war since it’s beginning, I can say from personal experience that you are wrong. And, if you want to be dead wrong, then let’s just walk away. In fact, let’s pull all our troops and operatives back to our own shores. Good plan…perhaps then you will see that your short sightedness is fallacious. It is because of the dedication, hard work and sacrifice of a small percentage of Americans that you are allowed to exercise your First Amendment rights to complain and throw out accusations. Wouldn’t it be nice if all of you complainers had to actually chase down some real terrorists? I am tired of the armchair quarterbacks…

        • Angel Wannabe

          Go Getem’ Jeep!!!

        • BigBadJohn

          So you claiming to be apart of Bush’s cabinet and privy to all the top secret info prior to the war????

          In June 2001, German intelligence warned the US, Britain, and Israel that Middle Eastern terrorists were planning to hijack commercial aircraft and use them as weapons to attack “American and Israeli symbols which stand out.” Within the American intelligence community, “the warnings were taken seriously and surveillance intensified” but “there was disagreement on how such terrorist attacks could be prevented.” This warning came from Echelon, a spy satellite network that is partly based in Germany. [Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, 9/11/01, Washington Post, 9/14/01]

          CIA Intelligence Reports Seven
          Months Before 9/11 Said
          Iraq Posed No Threat To U.S.

          By Jason Leopold

          21 September, 2005

          CIA Director George Tenet testified before Congress in February 2001 that Iraq posed no immediate threat to the United States or to other countries in the Middle East.

          But immediately after the terrorist attacks on 9-11, which the Bush administration has said Iraq is partially responsible for, the President and his advisers were already making a case for war against Iraq without so much as providing a shred of evidence to back up their allegations that Iraq and its former President, Saddam Hussein, helped al-Qaida hijackers plan the catastrophe.

          It was then, after the 9-11 attacks, that intelligence reports from the CIA radically changed from previous months, which said Iraq posed no immediate threat to the U.S., to now show Iraq had a stockpile of chemical and biological weapons and was in hot pursuit of a nuclear bomb. The Bush administration seized upon the reports to build public support for the war and used the information to eventually justify a preemptive strike against the country last March.

          I realize conservatives hate the facts when they contradict their belief in rhetoric….

        • Bob Wire

          No conspiracy to it ! It was created plain , pure a simple.

          You wish to spit hairs, ~ America failed to lift a finger to help the Kurds when it was first reveled. Sorry ? no float. WMD’s? sorry no float.

          It was contrived by convenience; Since We was in the neighborhood, we thought we’d just drop in and offer you “Dads” most sincere warm regards. I hope you don’t mind if my “vise” D1Ck and this boys roam your outback looking for prehistoric sea shells?

          • Jeep

            Bob and BBJ, it is what it is…The CIA, DIA and all the other agencies went straight to CYA mode post 9-11. To plagerize Dr. Seuss, Should we, could we…have stopped the terrorists? I’ll answer with a big resounding…maybe. You can argue all day about the “woulda, coulda, shoulda,” from your lofty position with Sylvia Brown by your side. The fact is, we are in the middle east, and we are fighting against some really peeved extremists. You may not like it, but then you could always bury your head and hope for the best. As for the rest of us, we will continue to chase down those who are sworn to destroy us and usher them politely to “paradise”. Meanwhile, you two can continue to argue about who is right and who is wrong.

      • Vigilant

        Jeep, you’re absolutely correct.

        And BBJ, if Clinton hadn’t allowed Bin Laden to get away ON MORE THAN ONE OCCASION, we might never have had to deal with the tragedy of 9/11. Sandy “Burglar” Berger removed 5 classified documents from the National Archives, destroyed 3 and returned 2. I have always suspected the destruction of these 3 documents would have implicated Clinton in a conspiracy to cover up his role in allowing Bin Laden to slip through his fingers.

        Regarding any stupid conspiracy theory to imply that GWB was complicit in allowing it to happen, you’ve got to be on acid to believe the BS spewed by Bush haters nationwide.

        • BigBadJohn


          Think you better check your facts on Clinton letting Osama go – true enough he did, but it WAS BEFORE we had any reason to go after him as a terrorist.

          As far as the CIA going CYA – George Tenant accepted responsibility and fell on his the knife for Bush to try to keep this quiet. The leaks got out anyway.

          Do some research on those aluminum tubes that Bush claimed could ONLY BE USED to enrich uranium. The fact is he was told by the NRC and DOD that they were unsuitable for that purpose. So GWB found another low level scientist willing to lie for him.

          What about those claims Saddam has weapons of mass destruction AND WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE? Those mobile labs turned out to be water purifiers, hell of a sales job eh?

          Scott Ritter claimed in 1998 when Clinton ordered the inspectors out that they had destroyed 100% on Saddam’s manufacturing ability and about 95% of all the WMD’s. He was EXACTLY correct, some weapons were found buried in the back of a remote bunker – but that was it!. Saddam didn’t even know that he had those weapons.

          Then there was the story he told about the Iraqi’s welcoming us as liberators. The Kurds, Sunni’s and Shia have been at war with each other for 1500 years and they are going to welcome us?

          I have a really nice bridge I’ll sell you …..

          • Vigilant


            “Think you better check your facts on Clinton letting Osama go – true enough he did, but it WAS BEFORE we had any reason to go after him as a terrorist.”

            Your skewed version of the “facts” is truly a wonder to behold! We knew Bin Laden was a terrorist long before 9/11. In fact, his name was the first mentioned after 9/11 before we even knew it was him.

            It is typical of lefties like you to accuse one of not checking the facts, when the facts prove beyond dispute that your claims are bogus. “What a maroon,” as Bugs would say.

            There’s always such a convenient and selective memory when the Bush-bashers get started. They forget (or suppress) the fact that Hussein’s nuclear program was put on hold pending a resolution of western vigilance. They forget that Hussein was still not cooperating and thumbing his nose at the IAEA after NUMEROUS U.N. Security Council resolutions. Like Tony Blair said, it was a freight train heading in our direction.

            Then you say, “Scott Ritter claimed in 1998 when Clinton ordered the inspectors out that they had destroyed 100% on Saddam’s manufacturing ability and about 95% of all the WMD’s.”

            Yes, I put a lot of weight behind the claims of a man who was arrested in an online sex sting for allegedly masturbating on a webcam while talking dirty to a Pennsylvania police officer posing as a 15- year-old girl.

            “Then there was the story he told about the Iraqi’s welcoming us as liberators. The Kurds, Sunni’s and Shia have been at war with each other for 1500 years and they are going to welcome us?”

            Who gives a rat’s ass whether they welcomed us or not? We didn’t invade them to win a popularity contest. We invaded them for the same thing that the Obama gang is afraid to do in Iran: to kill a threat to the world.

            Buy a bridge? Nothing you have to sell has any value whatsoever.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Ok, so let me ask you this, and I demand an answer, which will blow a big hole in your THEORY. Now back when Clinton was president, the United Nations sent a team of inspectors to Iraq, and they inventoried all kinds of Weapons of Mass Destruction that Saddam Hussein had. There were pages of them on this inventory list. So then the war starts, and none are found. So where did all the stuff that the UN inspectors inventoried go to? I mean it was there, they counted it, they entered it on paper, and now there are none. What the heck, did Copperfield go over there and do a special and make them disappear, because he is pretty good at that stuff. Explain me that sir, where did they go. And did not all the democrats vote for this war? And sir, do you not know, that the country cannot go to war because one man wants to? It takes an act of congress, just incase you are that hypnotized by the alphabet networks. In fact sir, I personally watched Bill Clinton on TV, before George W. Bush was ever a candidate for the presidency, and Clinton stood there on live TV, stateing that Saddam Hussein was very dangerous, and had weapons of mass destruction that he was stockpiling, and that he had to be stopped. Remember that? And now, you try to convince us all that Bush did this war, illegally, and all by himself? Your nuts dude. Totally nuts, or you are just so left wing liberal agenda based, that there is no room in your life for the truth. That is so sad. I will pray that your eyes and ears are opened, that the light may come in and expose the truth to you, as you sir, definately need it.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Uh, Im still waiting for an answer BigBadJohn. And dont quote your opinions, I want facts, just as I laid them all down for you. Now refute them.

          • BigBadJohn

            Just what do you think the inspectors were doing? They were there to oversee the the destruction of of those WMDs. Just why do you think Saddam kept playing cat and mouse with them?

            They found them, inventoried them and then destroyed them!!!!
            The one or two places that they suspected of producing WMDs, but they could not prove because of Saddam’s games, were bombed into oblivion.

            The only missing WMDs are the ones that Bush made up!

    • JC

      While the War on Terror is real enough, let’s not forget that it was the meddling in their affairs by western nations that earned the animosity of the Arab world.
      So we do have cells of muslim nut jobs to contend with, but maybe we should stop forcing western Corporatism on sovereign nations.
      I don’t think we can afford to keep putting troops over seas when we really need our best and bravest here on American soil. (IMHO)

      • Michael J.

        The Muslim’s have had it in for us for a thousand years. What we are seeing now is a result of oil enrichment that has enabled them to do the things they are doing. If oil had been discovered eight hundred years ago, the jihadists would have crashed IED ladened chariots into the gates of Chamelot. Oil money has allowed Muslim’s to go from camels to lear jets in the space of one generation and is the soul reason for what we are now experiencing.

        • JC

          I won’t argue that…but I don’t know that it is the “soul” reason.
          I take into account that the Middle East and it’s borders looked very different prior to WW2. And that the western nations divided the area up into present day countries. They “installed” the Saud family into power though they were only one of 4 royal families recognized. they did so because the Saud’s were willing to play ball. This bred a ton of lasting resentment from the rest of the Arab world.
          Apparently the people of Saudi Arabia aren’t as content with living under a brutal didctatorship as we have been led to believe.
          Doesn’t it seem as though the majority of educated leaders of the Jihad are Saudi?

          Though I do give creedence to your point that Islam in general is after world domination. And we simply can’t allow that here.

          • Jeep

            You hit the nail on the head, JC. I would never argue that we in the west have made some pretty poor decisions when comes to that whole region. But, like I said earlier, “it is what it is”. Arguing and blaming will not solve the issues we are facing today. The “block bully” may have been nice if we didn’t kick his dog, and he may have been nice if we didn’t call him names; but, we did kick his dog and call him names. So, we either lay down and let him beat us up, or defend ourselves. It may not seem right, but it is what it is…

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          They have had it in since the days of Esau and Jacob, when Esau sold his birthright to Jacob for some stew. The Islamic terrorists are the seed of Esau.Jesus comes from the family seed of Jacob. The hate started way back then.

  • Sapphira Sez

    As long as political offices are won by the one with the most money or access to the most money, we will not have true representation. The winner must answer to the Money, and fooey to the people! Meg Whitman has spent $140 million of her own money (at least it hasn’t come from George Soros, as obuma’s campaign fund did) but she is not expected to win. I think maybe the only winners in political campaigns are the advertising agencies. Certainly not the people. We can only hold the winners’ feet to the fire and make sure the rinos understand they will be going home on the next bus if they don’t quit acting like and spending like drunken democRATS.

  • Scott

    No amount of politics will solve America’s real problem: moral decline. All of the other issues are leaves on the tree. The root is that in general we’re not raising the next generation to know the difference between right and wrong. To perpetuate “Do what feels good” gets you an Enron-type scandal, where the white collars just do exactly what they’ve been taught.

    Let’s fully restore and re-instate the first freedom, the foundational one: freedom of religion. (Not “freedom of worship”.) This is the real source of objective moral standards. Such an act would be a powerful step in the right direction.

    • Michael J.

      You are absolutely right about the moral decline in America. But you may not be aware that moral decline was the intent of and caused by “Political Correctness”.

      • libertytrain

        Michael J. I think you may be absolutely correct in that assessment – I loathe the term “politically correct” – more and more as the years go by. It has truly “dumbed” us down.

      • Teresa

        Amen…we are the whore of all nations..and it is because of our greatness and kindness that we have become what we are. It has been written for many years our fate so nobody should at all be surprised by the outcome. But God told us to turn back to him for HE is the ONE true God and HE will save us! He also told us to put God’s laws before man’s laws and accept no other idol before him. We are naturally human and will fall short in his eyes, but we must stand firm in our beliefs and our faith for if you do not see the final days coming and the signs he has given us then you better educate yourself for we are at a day of reckoning people and our wars are only beginning, they are coming swift so open your eyes!

  • Diane

    The article mentions, “Representative Ron Paul (D-Texas)” — but shouldn’t it be “R-Texas?” Ron Paul belongs to the Republican Party.

    • Bob Livingston

      Dear Diane,
      You are correct, that was a typo. Thanks for pointing it out. It has been corrected.
      Best wishes,

  • jvr

    It all amounts to a lot of name-calling, a few good ideas and lots of bad ones. Priorities will be skewed even more toward big corporations and the ultra-rich. Some improvement?

  • timinvegas

    The 2 RINOs from maine still need to go and any republican that can’t get with the program can also be voted out in the primaries the next time around. We want conservative people who listen to the people, not a bunch of arrogant azzez that think just because thier an elected official they can do what they want. They work for us and they better remember or thier gonna be unemployed!!!!!!!!! They better start balancing budgets and getting rid of agencies that only exist for paychecks, and theres alot of those!! The first one I hear who is trying to get re-elected the day after he gets in is gonna be down the road too. Thier elected to do a job, not start over on the campaign trail!!!

  • Carliss Beard

    I agree with most of your points, but I also agree with the writer who pointed out the threat in the middle east. There is an ongoing war on the United States, not because we want a war, but because the jihadists want us all dead. They must know that we will not lie down and take this.

    • JC

      An yet “Devout Muslims” are being appointed to key security positions in Government. Two “devout Muslims” were just named to key posts in the DoHS. Go figure… must be a Politically Correct thing to do.
      Still I don’t remember anyone being appointed to a key post and being announced as a devout Catholic, Baptist or Protestant.

      • Vigilant

        That’s probably because Christians are anathema to this government of atheists, communists and secular progressives. Most of the appointments have gone to the very finest graduates of the Saul Alinsky School of Radicalism.

  • Ghostwalker

    One of the best things we voters could do is to pass laws in our home states, for recall referendums on Senators AND Representatives who fail to do their job when we send them to Washington. Do your job, listen to those who put you there, and protect the country, or we fire you and send a replacement. There are a few states that already have this provision, but damn few. It needs to be a way of life in all 50 States,(NOT 57, like O’Bama stated) and the Territories.

    • Dan az

      I agree 110% thats why we need to pay attention to local elections and get the word out!

    • Agent Orange

      I think we should also have a nationwide recall provision for the president.

  • Santi

    This weekend I was listening to the Fox news on the elections, when out of the blue my 8 year old boy asked me, when are things going to get back to the way the founding fathers intended this country to be? I just looked at him in amazement. I was dumbfounded, I said to him that we had to vote for the right people. He just stood there looking at me, like if saying so what’s the hold up. I asked him where did you hear about the founding fathers, he responded that he listens to the history channel. Just think if we teach our kids the right way, that mybe down the line this country will head in the right direction.

    • s c

      Santi, your son has more common sense than the two shills in the White House, most of Congress and all of the evil inflicted on the world by Lenin, Marx, Stalin, Mao and Alinsky.
      The fact that he got his information from the History Channel says much about his teachers and his school (public?). Homeschooling will give him an even greater edge over his peers.
      Be proud of your son, and take care of him, Santi.


      CAN I MAKE THIS INTO BILLBOARD???????????????????

    • Dan az

      HOME SCHOOL NOW!Dont let them corrupt his mind.Thats great!

  • JS

    “… go back to the from of Government that our founding fathers intended.” Tell me, GMAB, what else from the 18th and 19th centuries do you want to go back to. Horse and buggy? How about candle light and fireplaces for heat?

    In case you haven’t noticed, the world has changed a little since then. Get with it, man. This is the 21st century.

    • Allan Halbert

      Sounds like an advanced case of entitlement to me.

    • Al Sieber

      JS, whats wrong with the form of Govt. the founding fathers put together and some gave their lives for? what’s that have to do with the horse and buggy days?

      • Dan az

        Hey Al
        When the lights go out and the cars dont work and the paychecks arent received I wounder what this jerk off will do then.

        • Al Sieber

          Well Dan, he’ll probably have to rely on people like us. and light a candle. we have plenty of wild burros around here to ride.

    • Michael J.

      The Constitution and Conservatism never go out of style. Relax, today is the 1st and your government checks should arrive soon.

    • JC

      Another hysterical lefty…we’re talking about “principles” here. I guess that’s where we lost you.

    • Jeep

      That’s right JS! Screw the Constitution! It’s just a piece of paper written by a bunch of slave owning hypocrits anyway! Read Karl Marx! And, ban the Bible while your at it…


      You my friend are a wierdo of the highest caliber. Why don’t you get with the American program of individual responsibility, personal freedom, limited govt, etc?



      • http://GOGGLE vaksal

        to Jeep,that paper,THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS,allows you everything,life,personal liberty,the the right to free speech,your so luckey to live here in THE U.S.A.,because in another country you would have been shot for treason,and that piece of paper as you call it “screw the constitution” i cant tell you on this site,what i think of what you have posted,but your breeding is showing,a troll,a marxist communist,left wing radical,a godless atheist,a leach,just to name the kind ones,god willing this election day your type will go back from under the rocks you crawled out from underneath,and,this is from an american that wants this nation to see the great laws that have served this republic generously for 200yrs god willing people like you will move to some third world country like bangadish,and see firsthand what real life is about,for there if you dont work you dont eat and you die,but in your case that wouldnt matter,for your mouth would get you on the missing persons list in that nation.but folks like you scream you have your rights,then wipe your rear ends with this nations laws,make up your mind up,you cant have it both ways. oh,forgot ungreatful person due no respect.

        • http://GOGGLE vaksal

          SORRY,JeeP,it was meant for JS (jerk slime).

          • Jeep

            No worries, I get a little passionate too when it comes to the Constitution!

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      JS Are you that narrow minded? We don’t need to go back to outdoor toilets and hand pumps outside. We need to get back to our Constitution. It was good then, and it’s still good now!

      • Vigilant

        No, Robin, JS is not “narrow minded,” but “zero minded.”

    • Craig

      Horse and buggy? This has what to do with the style of government our founders intended? You appear clueless and prone to infantile bouts of liberal emoticating.

    • DaveH

      Yes, JS, the world has changed a little since then. We have lost much of the Freedom gained 200 years ago, and now we’ve come to take it back.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I would go there in a heartbeat pal. We have a large Amish community some 25 miles from here, and I see them in places and talk with them, and those people work hard, but have nice peaceful lives, and everybody looks out for each other. Im pretty darn sure that is the way the Good Lord designed us to be, not living our lives chasing the almighty dollar, as it is written, man cannot serve both God and money. If money is your god, have at it man, and good luck never being filled, because no matter how much you get, your going to end up empty, still missing something. I watch old westerns, and I would much rather live like that, camping out under the stars as you travel, than paying 70 to 100 bucks a night for a hotel, and gas money and all that. Sorry pal, you can have this rat race. Id gladly go back to horse and buggy.

  • Dorothy Baxter

    I do not understand:
    With the low ratings of the Do-Nothing Congress, why is everyone saying
    the GOP may not take it? Has everyone totally lost their memory or what?
    I say ‘clean house’ with them all!

    • eddie47d

      There is way too much manufactured hoopla and spin. It seems to work but is it honest? For the last 2 years the polls have stated that the approval rating of Congress is 18%. The Republicans fairing much worse than the Democrats. Since Tea Party members will vote Republican it all looks like smoke and mirrors. It would have been more on the upside in credibility if the Tea Party put their own name on the ballot.At least break away from the Republican Party and join the Libertarian Party.

      • Jeep

        Eddie, what is wrong with changing the establishment from within? Are you jealous that the Tes Party didn’t start with the Dems?

        • Jeep

          Oops…Tea Party…not Tes Party!

      • Michael J.

        I’m not sure what you’re smoking in that mirror, but it will probably be legal in Kalifornia soon.

      • JeffH

        fast sddie…maybe you can expand that comment and explain why the GOP is bad mouthing the Tea Party too?
        It seems to me that the old guard Republican Party is a bit concerned about the Tea Parties attempt at re-inventing a constitutional republic of smaller government, less government spending,fiscal responsibility, lower taxes, private sector job creation and general freedom as defined by the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.

    • Christin

      Yea! :)
      Doesn’t congress have an “11% approval rating”?
      Wonder what (11%) losers think the congress is so great to give them their approval of SHOVING the TARP (under Bush lead by DEMO congress), Stimulus (aka Demo Pork Spending), Omnibus ( Slush fund ofr Demo), Government (taxpayer funded) Bailouts to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, ACORN, GM, BANKS, paying for pelosi’s planes and food/alcohol bills… and try to push through Cap and Trade (aka Crap and Tax or hoax global warming), Finanical Reform (shut down Main Street), Dream Act (to collapse our Economy)… SO MANY SOCIALIST/ COMMUNIST (aka Progressive) reforms.

      VOTE out the Progressive followers of the NWO.
      Conservatives better show up to the polls in great numbers to off set the fraudulent voter schemes of the Liberal Demos.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      The house was cleaned Dorothy. You were correct in your ascertation.

  • selwyn marock

    Yup USA is definitely “BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE” do not think much can change whichever major party wins,the best bet,I beleive is to create more Independants that have to listen to the Voters and scrap the 2 major players.It would save the States a Fortune and maybe bring back some Common-sense.



  • chucky

    I believe the best way government runs is when the congress is of one party and the President is of the other party. It seems to slow the wheels and stagnate the hand of government. When one party runs both branches it seems to pass legislatiion that is not in the best interest of the people. This is the only way it seems to slow down the growing monster(much like the blob) the more it amasses the bigger it gets and the more destruction it causes. I recieved a cute e-mail from a friend I will share:

    I recently asked my friends’ little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up.

    She said she wanted to be President of the United States .

    Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there. So I asked her,

    “If you were President, what would be the first thing you would do?”

    She replied, “I’d give food and houses to all the homeless people..” Her parents beamed.

    “Wow…what a worthy goal,” I told her. “But you don’t have to wait until you’re President to do that.

    You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and sweep my driveway, and I’ll pay you $50. Then I’ll take you over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out, and you can give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house.”

    She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked,

    “Why doesn’t the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?”

    I said, “Welcome to the Republican Party.”

    Her parents still aren’t speaking to me……



    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Amen Chucky. Why when Obama got elected, I went out to eat, and upon ordering, I asked the waiter who he voted for. He said he voted for Obama, and wanted to know why I asked. I said I was just curious. So after we ate, and were getting up to leave, I informed him that as I came in, there was a homeless guy outside trying to gather enough money to get something to eat, so in doing the democrat thing, I was going to give the tip he earned to the homeless guy outside, since he didnt have a job or any money. He took great exception to that, to which I replied “Isnt that what you just told me you voted for when I first sat down and asked you?”. He looked down and walked away, and I have to wonder to this day, if he didnt vote a little different this time around.

  • JimH

    Once some of these people get elected for the first time, they have high ideals and a plan of what they want to do. Then they hit the corrupt political culture of DC. They gradually become wrapped up in the “game” or become complacent. Once they get in, it will be up to us to hold their feet to the fire and to remind them how they got there in the first place. Don’t let them get complacent.

  • Ken Davis Sr

    the objective is not to give the Republicans power but to break the congressional power of the incumbents in congress. the true aim is to break the power of both parties. the only way tis can be done is by the people being involved so much that we close 75% of the federal government. we refuse to pay anymore tax to unconstitutional government. we take back our country. go to your local leaders…demand that they take a stand. I watch our county reps beg at the trough. I watch our state reps bow and beg at the federal trough…take a stand.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I know a guy that thought that way, about not paying them anymore taxes. But the business he worked at didnt want to get in trouble, and told him that they have to take taxes out. So he said ok, and claimed 18 dependants to cut it down to the minimal. He started his own business, and 8 years later, the IRS came knocking, and he almost lost it all, and has been paying them back ever since. He did lose his house and many of his belongings. Even though it is not a federal law to pay taxes, just try not doing it. You will be forced to pay, or you will lose your home, your business, and be put way behind the eight ball, and into a hole you dont want to dig out of. So you cant do it, unless 5 million of us did it at one time. Thats the only way.

  • Santi

    JS you don’t get it. You can say and do what you please, but I will continue to pray for people like you. People like you need to go and live in a country that does not believe in this country and what it stands for. Pretty soon you will be asking for a horse and buggy you jack wagon.

    • Jeep

      Yeah, but JS’s lib friends will tax that new “horse and buggy”…maybe even ask for green credits (don’t horses emit methane?)

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      You are a good voice of reason sir. Its good to see some common folks with the good sense the Lord gave us, instead of blindly following some agenda that is damning to this country.

  • Cribster

    I believe that the Tea Party is indicative of a political awakening in America, a counter to apathy. I just hope it persists into the foreseeable future so we can remake a new America that’s just like the old one.

    In the mean time there are two things that concern me greatly. One is voter fraud; liberals are vile and will stop at nothing to steal elections. There are reports all over the country ranging from “fixed” voting machines to buying votes with food and gift cards.

    The other is the Lame Duck session. On top of being vile liberals are also bereft of morality and the losers will act like a possum backed into the corner of your garage and will try to pass as much disastrous legislation as possible before January.

    • JRC

      calm down, it goes both ways. If the republicans win, the democrats scream voter fraud, vote buying and if the democrats win the republicans do the same. Save your sanity..I just laugh at it. You should worry about things YOU can influence and change and not about things you have NO control over….you blood pressure will come down, you can lay off the pepsit and be able to finally concentrate on the important things in life. Moreover, you will live longer because of less stress.

      • Craig

        Let the dim scream. The evidence of voter fraud is growing day by day and it is not painting a pretty picture for the dems. Every single case of voter fraud this past several weeks is fraud coming from the dems. Voting machines automatically placing the dem candidate as checked. Dems giving away free lunches. Unions giving away gift cards. WookieMoochelle Obummer electioneering in a voting place….ect. And not one instance of repub voter fraud.

        • Karolyn

          In NC, people were voting straight dem and getting straight repub and vice versa. It was going both ways. They say it’s because people don’t realize how sensitive the touch screens are.

          • libertytrain

            I had no trouble with my screen in NC.

          • Craig

            No Karolyn is was only going one way and oddly enough favoring the dems.

          • Bob Wire

            nothing quite like a self-defeating attitude to make you feel like a loser.

            Choose heads or tails and toss the coin 10 times. If you lost, toss it 20 times. Your favor is equal to your efforts to succeed or accept you truly are a loser.

          • Karolyn

            Well, Craig, that’s not what I heard two days ago.

      • Cribster

        You make a lot of assumptions about someone you know nothing about.

        I’m not a fan of republicans either but the current crop of Democrats have totally abandoned law abiding, tax paying citizens in favor of special interest groups and far left lunatics.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      You are right. And the vile liberals are so threatened by this Tea Party, that all they do is talk bad about them and attack them. Arent they supposed to work together for the betterment of all of us, instead of attacking someone whom they havent even given a chance to show what they can and will do? Its insane. Its their fear, the same fear they had of Sarah Palin, that they had to send 200 reports to her home town to dig up dirt, and when they couldnt find any, they fabricated things and got caught, and IM sorry, but a lot of the people behind these falsehoods should have been jailed and forced to pay the legal fees Sarah Palin incurred defending herself against false allegations. Yes, the liberals are running scared, as they know the end is near. In 2012, lets all vote the rest of them out.

  • The Shrimper

    “The jig is up”, as the old saying goes, come tomorrow.
    This is indeed just the first step. Step two will be removing the “stupid” from the Stupid Party (i.e current establishment GOP), which may be just as challenging.

    • Jeep

      Let the culling begin!

  • Santi

    Thank you S C.

  • Jim Cumber

    Unfortunately, just electing the GOP will NOT resolve the problem! Read either “Tragedy and Hope” by Professor Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton’s “mentor”) or the late Professor W. Cleon Skousen’s much shorter “Naked Capitalist”, which is a review of Quigley’s 800+ page tome! Quigley admits (and Skousen confirms) that the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR: which has run EVERY Administration in BOTH Parties for nearly 90 years!) has set it up so that a change between the 2 “lame stream parties” accomplishes NOTHING: merely rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic! One gets the SAME, IDENTICAL policies, no matter if the GOP or the Demorats are in power: NEITHER Party abides by their Constitutional Oath of Office! ANSWER? Try the Constitution Party! Unfortunately, the “lame stream media” is ALSO controlled by the CFR, so ANY “decent” 3rd Party is carefully PREVENTED from any sort of fair press coverage, so most citizens have NO idea what is available. Short of the Constitution Party, we are probably left to “load and lock” & use the 1776 “solution”!

    • Christin

      Good Post.
      I have not read either book, but I will wrote down the titles and may do so. It is sad to hear that this is so, in our beautiful Free Capitalistic America… somebody must have sold out our country 90 years ago… treasonous traitors. If we could just pull out of the world scene and regroup and rid ourselves of the evil, we could fix our state and national problems, but as long as we are attached to the rest of the world then I don’t see much hope.

    • Christin

      PS. Jim,
      Third Parties… The Constitution Party… is that the Constitutional Conservative (Tea) Party that ran under the Republican banner?… and there is The Libertarian Party. Independants usually go with the Demo, but I think many will side with the Repubs this election.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Bill Clintons mentor? Is that kind of like Jesse Jackson was his “spiritual advisor” Kind of a joke dont you you think?

  • Bluff Rat

    Conservative Manifesto
    Dan Thornton

    The purpose of this document is to distill the essence of a conservative and to clarify the motives and intentions of the conservative movement. A conservative is one who values individual liberty and desires to preserve that liberty for himself and his posterity. A conservative realizes that government’s only power derives from the governed, and that government’s only legitimate purpose is to protect and promote the liberty of the governed. To this extent, the remainder of this document will focus on the platform necessary to achieve this end.

    From a historical perspective, it should be noted that our country has been under assault from liberals, internationalist, socialist, and others for at least the last century. Their purpose has been the destruction of individual liberty and the destruction of our sovereignty as a free nation. This purpose has been promoted by both the Republican and Democratic parties because there has been no clear distinction between the two parties. It is not within the scope of this manifesto to defend this statement, but for those interested in proof, it is evident from a careful reading of history. What follows is an outline for the reformation of a free society.

    Constitutional Government

    - All future laws must identify the specific provision in the Constitution that gives congress the power to do what the bill proposes.
    - All future laws are single issues bill without amendments. (no pork)
    - A congressional committee must begin a review of existing laws and identify those that are in conflict with the Constitution.
    - All laws found to be in conflict with the constitution will be repealed or modified to comply.

    Separation of Powers

    - Only the legislative branch of the government has the authority to create laws.
    - The executive branch only hast he authority to carry out the laws. Executive orders should be eliminated.
    - The judicial branch has the authority to administer justice and uphold the laws. Legislating from the bench should be eliminated.
    - All branches of government are sworn to uphold the Constitution and failure to do so is grounds for removal from office.

    Term Limits

    - Members serving in Congress shall be limited to a total of 12 years in any combination of the house or senate.
    - Congress cannot vote itself wage increases – all increases are based on consumer price index or 3% whichever is less.
    - Congress participates in social security and public health insurance, and there is no other retirement program provided.
    - Congress must abide by all laws imposed on the American people.


    - All treaties that threaten the sovereignty of the United States of America are null and void.
    - All treaties that conflict with the Constitution of the United States of America are null and void.
    - All treaties that transfer American jobs to foreign nations are null and void.
    - Funding of the United Nations is discontinued.

    Balanced Budget

    - A balanced budget is required annually.
    - Entitlement programs will be phased out over 10 years.
    - Social Security will be funded for those who were forced to pay into the system.
    - Social Security for those who did not pay will be phased out.
    - Medicare will continue for those who paid into the system but will be phased out for those who did not.
    - An audit of the Federal Reserve and Fort Knox will be conducted bi-annually.

    Tax Reform

    - Eliminate the graduated income tax and replace it with a single rate tax or fair tax that everyone pays equally.
    - Provide no tax incentives for dependents.

    Federal Agencies

    - Establish a committee that engages in complete audits of federal agencies and programs.
    - The committee will conduct salary studies to compare public wages to the private sector. Wages will be lowered for government employees when they are 1% greater than the private sector wage.
    - Defined benefit retirement programs will be eliminated, and all government employees will share in the public retirement system.
    - The committee will make recommendations for elimination, consolidation or improvement of agencies.
    - The committee will make recommendation to congressional committee on constitutionality issues.

    Immigration Reform

    - All immigrants coming to the United State of America must speak English, be employed, and willing to assimilate into our culture.
    - All immigrants who remain unemployed for one year will be deported.
    - The so-called anchor baby scam will be eliminated.
    - Borders will be secured and illegal crossing will be eliminated.
    - All illegal immigrants will be deported.

    As a postscript, I must recognize that I used The Contract from America in part for creating this manifesto. You will note that I did not address such issues as cap and trade or energy policy for that matter. It is my belief that with careful consideration, these will be found to be either un-constitutional or issues for the states, and there is no reason for inclusion in this document.

    • Tazio2013

      Nice words but unfortunately nothing meaningful will change until 01/20/17 at the very earliest, when POTUS #46 begins his first term. It took US 100 plus years to get into this Hegelian dialectical mess and it will take considerable time to correct the situation. So, Bluff Rat, any suggestions on what to do ’till then, other than the usual white guy, tea-bagging, pseudo-patriotic, knee-jerk/reactionary crusading christian republikrat nonsense?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Tazio, you got a problem with white guys? Or are you just a racist that has a problem with anyone different that yourself? Why you gotta bring up a skin color? You sir, are a racist.



  • Frank

    If the new kids on the block stick together and don’t let the old timers bully or bribed to fall into the same rut the Washington Insiders have been in for decades now, they may have a chance to actually make change. They must speak to the public and let them know all that happens to them once in. If they are bribed or forced in any way to ignore their goals, it should be public in hours and not days or weeks. That way, it don’t give the old timers time to cover up as both sides do very well. The new blood is like daniel going into the lions den. Except one thing. God won’t be with them for Satan has been turned loose for a short time and anyways, God isn’t into politics. If he was, our country wouldn’t be in this mess and situation, in the first place, due to money which is Satan’s tool.



    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      You and I both know, that wherever there are large piles of money, there is rampant corruption and the greed to go after it. That is why it is written, “It is easier to thread a camel through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to inherit the Kingdom of Heaven”. Not because its bad to be wealthy, its not. Its just very hard for a person not to get corrupted by “the want of money” And you better believe the temptation is there. I believe that is why God in His infinite wisdom tells us to elect Godly men. Only those men can resist the tempation. All others will be devoured by it, as evidenced by what seems to happen to all that get around it.

  • alan e debosky

    we need to be perfectly clear from now on,, THE GOVT BUSINESS IS JUST THAT,,OUR BUSINESS,,THE POPULOUS IS IN CHARGE,,THE GOVT WILL CARRY OUT OUR DESIRED TASKS,,i now more than ever realize that our fathers mothers have been ripped off for 60 yrs,,,NOT ANYMORE,,NOT NOW,,NOT EVER,,, we will repeal they’re skin ,,,if they dont get it,,in 2012,,,we should shrink the government by 30%,,,and in 2016,,another 10-20%,,this is a absolute must,,,AND CHINA,,CAN GO SUCK ABN EGG!!,,MANUFACTURING,,DRILLING,,ENERGY PRODUCTION IS AN IMEDIATE REQUIREMENT,,,HOUSE AS WELL,,,GOT IT??!!!!!!!




  • Outnumbered

    There are 550,000 elected officials across this country from dog catcher to president. So how many appointed officials, staffer and lobbyists are there?

    Cesspool runs through this country like the rivers and streams.

    It took 100 years to get where we are, it’s going to take at least 25 years to undo most of it. I think we’ll collapse long before that.



  • Hadit

    Like the referendum idea. I would think that is the solution. Too many times we see people say anything to get elected and then do whatever they (get paid by special interests to do). Why do you think the old politicians will spend so much money to get reelected Does anyone know a poor career politician. There is no such thing! The thing that make the machine work is MONEY! We need to add one more thing FEAR. There seems to be no punishment in politics for bad behavior. Accountability has been dropped from the political agenda. Needs to be required! Referendum and recall they go together! It is not supposed to matter the party. Policy is what matters. Voting for bad policy just because it’s the party line is the wrong thing to do!



  • Howard R Gray

    The first duty of the Tea Party is to carry on regardless of the election, the street campaigns and self education about the nation must continue. Most of all the Tea Party has little option but to move into all of the constituencies of the GOP taking over the behind the scenes seats in the operations of the GOP. The grandees of the party are in their last days, they will co-opt as many Tea Partiers as they can, some will fall but most if Michelle Bachman’s 101 Constitutional Ed team have their way, will provide the first steps away from progressive RHINO politics as usual.

    The truth is this election is a watershed but that is all it is. Most of Washington will carry on regardless they are already plotting to reduce the Tea Party influence in as many ways as possible. So what can be done about it. The answer is simple, begin a counter assault by expanding its membership, putting forward more people to office at every level of government from school boards to County Attorneys and judges. There is a dire need to consolidate the movement by entering all levels of service to change the local perception of the Tea Party from a national protest movement to a real political force that can if needed separate from the GOP or enter and split the GOP. It may never be necessary to do either of these possibilities but sure as hell the progressives will have something to fear in attempting to manage Tea Partiers.

    The reality is the Tea Party is here to stay, how quickly it amasses enough political muscle is going to be interesting to watch. Hopefully, the President will not change course on anything he believes in, after all he is a Marxist, they tend not to give up easily nor should the Tea Party. The fact he no longer controls the House of Representatives isn’t going to stop him, executive orders and other over mighty powers will be used liberally, pun intended. That being said there will be a welter of press opposition to the Republicans for stopping the sacred progressive agenda, this howl will be huge and relentless, the attacks will be personal and general with a clear objective to encourage the grandees of the GOP to bend and accommodate to some of the Marxist agenda points of the Democrat Party. Likely as not they will succeed, the GOP leadership is old guard and will accommodate all that they can get away with. The Tea Party in congress and out of it must be ready for this and never let up on the principles that the nation expects them to honor, it will be tough to hold firm.

  • bruce d.

    Nice job on the article Bob Livingston. I agree and like what you are saying.

  • Jim

    Bush was an idiot, which Bush? Both! That “compassionate conservative” nonsense was more than nauseating, as he was neither. Moron “W” Bush was a treasonous POS who refused to secure our borders. Securing our borders is one of the few things the Federal Government is mandated by our Constitution, any politician who goes against doing so is a traitor, the punishment for treason is death by hanging-we need trials immediately for the establishment enemies in DC(for past and present occupants) :

    What Constitutes an “Invasion”?

    The Founders had invasion in mind. They mentioned it four times in the Constitution. Here are the citations:

    Article I, Section 8, Paragraph 15: The Congress shall have the Power (to) provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

    Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 2: The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

    Article I, Section 10, Paragraph 3: No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

    Article IV, Section 4, Paragraph 1: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestics Violence.

    • Cribster

      That is my biggest complaint about George “dubuya” Bush. Why are we fighting our enemy across the globe while allowing the country to be invaded right at our own southern border?
      If tens of millions of South Americans invading our land isn’t bad enough, radical Islam is hiding amongst the throngs of invaders.

    • a progressive nightmare

      Jim….Don’t expect any of the progressives on this blog to respond to your post. When you speak clear ENGLISH straight out of the constitution, it makes them VERY nervous. I have posted similar comments especially on A4S4 and have never had one of these self-appointed progressive gods to repsond. A4S4 is about as plain spoken as it gets and makes no mention of ARMED invasion or Military Invasion or PASSIVE invasion. We are in fact being INVADED and both the President and Congress needs to be held accountable for allowing this to happen.

      • Bob Wire

        I think perhaps both your handle and your posting might be responsible for that.

        Don’t wrestle with a pig.

        You will both get dirty and he likes it.

        “John MC Cain”

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I noticed you felt free to attack Bush about the borders. But I see no mention about the one, who uses our tax money, to sue Arizona to make them stop defending the border against this illegal immigration. Why do you give Obama a free pass, when he tries to demonize those running Arizona, for doing what the federal government refuses to do? You sure seem to have an agenda, that you let this leper get a free pass, when what he has done is the most anti American thing I have ever seen when it comes to securing our borders. That sir, is the true idiot you seek to point out.

  • Dan Smith

    Regardless of which party is in power, I think people now realize that they have to keep their elected representatives on a short leash and a microscope up their a$$.

  • Henry Ledbetter

    Don’t know about the rest of you but I have decided to split my vote tomorrow. I have found one Democrat I trust more than the Republican opponnet. I can at least talk to and pray with him. We stopped by a republican tent on Saturday and at least some know it will not be business as usual. One I know well was helping set up the tent and had his overalls on. He excused himself and said he needed to take his dog home and get his campaign clothes on. I couldn;t help but say, you look better in your overalls, at least this way it looks like you might have some common sense. We need those with God,s wisdom and common sense, if we are to survive as a nation. PLEASE pray and vote

    • Bob Wire

      Glad you found one Henry, I hope it works out for you.

      Every some often I find a good Republican I wish to support.

  • Teresa

    The first order of business congress Must adress is the Impeachment of President Obama…He must show records! He has; rather some agree or not committed treason against our Constitution. If congress does not, laws will pass breaking our Constitutional rights!

    • Jeep

      I am just hoping for gridlock. A Rep congress can do nothing more than introduce legislation, they cannot pass anything. Repeal of health care, lower taxes, and all those other things we want will not happen any time soon.

      • Bob Wire

        you want even lower taxes, for yourself or everyone?

        Well? we’d have to cut our Federal shopping list a lot! While the City , county and states left to raised their taxes.

        • Jeep

          Bob, you moron, what part of “cut the federal shopping list” do you NOT get? Let’s start with your welfare check. And, then move on to other welfare checks, money for illegal aliens, in fact, let’s look at all “entitlements” (after all, you are not entitled to anything!) Then, we can move on to the myriad of other non-Constitutional “programs” and departments. Yes, Bob cut govt spending. And, then cut it some more. BTW read the Constitution, there is a section in there that clearly spells out what the Federal govt can spend money on.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Its a proven fact Bob, that if you lower taxes on the individual, and you lower taxes on the successful business’s, people have more money to spend, and they will spend it, and business’s have more money to expand and hire more workers, and they do, and more money comes into the tax coffers than it does when you raise taxes. Its a proven fact. So why do you have a problem with it? Its a proven, win, win situation Bob, and you cannot refute the facts.

    • Donald

      The Patriot Act already stole your rights

  • Mick

    Don’t hold your breath on anything people,Iam waiting to see how many recounts we will have to put up with before all is said and done…
    In order for a third party to have a chance we would have to get together and when you look how close the races are in so many States, we’re far away from a thrid party resolution.
    After the disaster of 2006-2008 one would think that the democrats would turn tail from the party but here we are in a close race again,how can a third party succeed with this type of society ?



  • Marshall

    We need to first defund all Programs to stop everything in its Tracks and then move forward with Common Sense!



  • Merl

    Entitlement programs like social security and Medicaid are the 3rd rail; it is political suicide to mess with them; it is political survival to keep vital programs funded. What is necessary is to make sure no one gets entitlements who does not need or deserve them. When there are jobs, all people should be encouraged to work; and those who absolutely cannot must be provided for in reasonable ways. It is very easy to sit comfy on trust fund or a beneficiary of a large and not care about others who genuinely need lifetime assistance; put yourself in their shoes. I believe in individual freedom; reduced government; too much government is always inherently corrupt and evil; indiviudual opportunity; and the rights of the individual over the group if necessary. However, I do not believe it is right to say my waty or the highway, to care nothing except for onself and to hell with everyone and everything else. If the Republicans pursue their former selfish agenda and uncaring ways, they are doomed for fail for perhaps a generation. We must observe the compassionate principles of Ronald Regan; without the amnesty for illegals and without lack of law and order and border control of course.

    • ValDM

      First, you need to understand that SS IS NOT an entitlement program. I was forced to pay into it, and now I’m merely taking what’s mine. If you’re worried about true entitlement programs like welfar, susidized housing, etc. I can go along with some of your ideas. But on the whole, personal accountability and responsbility sound like a better solution.

  • Mick

    Merl says:
    November 1, 2010 at 11:47 am
    Entitlement programs like social security and Medicaid are the 3rd rail; it is political suicide to mess with them; it is political survival to keep vital programs funded. What is necessary is to make sure no one gets entitlements who does not need or deserve them. When there are jobs, all people should be encouraged to work; and those who absolutely cannot must be provided for in reasonable ways. It is very easy to sit comfy on trust fund or a beneficiary of a large and not care about others who genuinely need lifetime assistance; put yourself in their shoes. I believe in individual freedom; reduced government; too much government is always inherently corrupt and evil; indiviudual opportunity; and the rights of the individual over the group if necessary. However, I do not believe it is right to say my waty or the highway, to care nothing except for onself and to hell with everyone and everything else. If the Republicans pursue their former selfish agenda and uncaring ways, they are doomed for fail for perhaps a generation. We must observe the compassionate principles of Ronald Regan; without the amnesty for illegals and without lack of law and order and border control of course.*************



  • FireMall

    Considering many of the Repugs-lessnuts have already been plugging the ‘post election” Compromise plan , I’d say they haven’t taken the “We The People’s”– “Message” to heart.
    IMO– “Compromise” is /was/ has been , the problem since “We The People’s” So called , Representatives chose to”Compromise” the Constitution Of the United States of America , via, their Self-Serving Totalitarian, “Boys in the Hood” un-constitutional actions.

    Warning— Less than 22 hours left to save America —Vote Wisely & “Photo / Paper Record” each choice made at the Polls. {ref: SEIU / Acorn Fraud}
    Note, If voting Democratic, Ignore this warning.
    Just enter your code into the voting machine & push “Cast Vote” button & The “Agenda” team will do the rest. Suckers !!

  • http://none OJD

    The most important election since the ouster of Jimmy Carter.
    Even liberal democrates need to research before your normal
    automatic votes no matter how you are instructed to vote.

    It your money , your kids money , your grand kids money.
    Remember the Roman Empire !!!!!!!! Then vote.

  • Hans Brinkhuis

    I Think we should giv the Republicans nother chane to get America
    moving in the right position and let them work with both parties and
    listen to the people it is their country.
    And the most serous thing is check everone that vote is an American citizen and not an illegal alien. and one other thing is go after the big corporations like WalMar Sams Club KMart they kkill all samll busneses that’s why there are so many closed up stores Thank You

  • FireMall

    BTW; As I suggested before Record All Votes cast for every category.
    AND “SAVE” Your Voter Code Reference Paper.
    No paper Trial == No Prosecution of Blatant Ballot Fraud Criminals. As Planned , within the hidden paragraphs of the Agenda / Plan of the NWO & Socialist Globalist. i.e. The Anti-America , control Freak enemy Within.
    I can already predict the Reasoning from the Socialist Enemies with they are confronted with the Factual Evidence of Ballot Fraud.
    It was electronic malfunction of the Machines. “We” have a higher degree of Integrity than to be a part of Voting Fraud.
    As “we[Democrats}” speak , “We” have instigated an investigation of the offending Machines , and will Prosecute said Machines ,to the full extent of “Our”, newly enacted, Voting Machine oversight laws.
    In the event that “we” / oops, the “Machines” are found guilty of “Vote Manipulation” , the Machines will be incarcerated in a Warehouse & Burned until all Records of the Voting Machine’s Misdeeds are no longer available for further scrutiny.

    • Mick

      FireMall says:
      November 1, 2010 at 12:27 pm
      BTW; As I suggested before Record All Votes cast for every category.
      AND “SAVE” Your Voter Code Reference Paper.
      No paper Trial == No Prosecution of Blatant Ballot Fraud Criminals. As Planned , within the hidden paragraphs of the Agenda / Plan of the NWO & Socialist Globalist. i.e. The Anti-America , control Freak enemy Within.
      I can already predict the Reasoning from the Socialist Enemies with they are confronted with the Factual Evidence of Ballot Fraud.
      It was electronic malfunction of the Machines. “We” have a higher degree of Integrity than to be a part of Voting Fraud.
      As “we[Democrats}” speak , “We” have instigated an investigation of the offending Machines , and will Prosecute said Machines ,to the full extent of “Our”, newly enacted, Voting Machine oversight laws.
      In the event that “we” / oops, the “Machines” are found guilty of “Vote Manipulation” , the Machines will be incarcerated in a Warehouse & Burned until all Records of the Voting Machine’s Misdeeds are no longer available for further scrutiny.

      FireMall,,,you are so on the money………………..

  • 45caliber

    All I can say is, they better not decide to do business as usual. We want cost reductions big-time! Not just on the new stuff but off the old stuff too. And if they don’t …

  • Mick

    Hans Brinkhuis says:
    November 1, 2010 at 12:22 pm
    I Think we should giv the Republicans nother chane to get America
    moving in the right position and let them work with both parties and
    listen to the people it is their country.
    And the most serous thing is check everone that vote is an American citizen and not an illegal alien. and one other thing is go after the big corporations like WalMar Sams Club KMart they kkill all samll busneses that’s why there are so many closed up stores Thank You
    Hans Brinkhuis……This by partisan crap is what got us in this mess in the first place…one cannot compromise its basic principles….’Stick to your ideas and call it a day

  • http://none OJD

    I’m with you 45caliber.
    Stop the out of control spending and
    any & all legislation appies to everyone..
    Heaven forbid , even our senators…

    • Bob Wire

      Now your a talking. ~ Stop the waste ~ stand down of military on both fronts. NOW! not tomorrow , now ! ~ No black opts in the middle east. Close down the American Embassy for 30 days, with a new sign, ” Opening Soon”

      Secure our borders , not tomorrow , now ! By land , sea and air.

      Thumb screws to Madoff and Chaney ~ start recovering unaccounted for loot.

      Curb the obsessive’s of Wall Street and Capital Hill.

      $5,000.00 bounty Reward on $500 dollar hookers dress as Lobbyist .

      Throw Lobbyist off the Hill.

      Bring back CCC camps for the truly down and out. ~ three hots and a cot with training, character building along with public projects, water and soil and Ag issues. Educate people about dirt.

      a start .

      • eddie47d

        The Republicans for years used the lawyer/lobbyists mantra in their political ads against Democrats. Then they finally realized that they had the most lawyers and lobbyists in Washington. The attack ads stopped!

  • Bitter Libertarian

    I wonder how many people actually know the workings of the political parties in their state. Fo instance, which officials have a full time job, where the $ comes from to pay them, and how they get those jobs.

    The Third party solution would look better to anyone who has inquired and discovered the truth. Big money from Big bussiness keeps those parties funded. Until Americans wake up and see why the political parties that actually would help them cannot get anywhere, Americans will continue to shoot themselves in the foot.

  • charles

    The blame should be on us all. The Government has failed us because we have failed the Government. Hoe’s that you say? We continue to vote the same people in with the expectation of a defferent result. Define insanity. I believe that I just did. We have term limits it’s called woting. Use it! I am of the opinion that we need a Constitutional Convention where we make it clear about immigation(illegial) and other issues that have become coopted over time.

    • Bitter Libertarian


      • Bob Wire

        how refreshing! Someone that’s willing to stand up and say it the way it really is.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    Quote of the Day: “If elections really changed things they would be illegal.” — Emma Goldman

  • dan a

    I think the one thing that is escaping this everyone’s atention is that, just like all the elections in the last 50 years campain spending is crazy.its coming from who knows where? can we realy take back our country without taking back our elections? speacial interest buy our rep early to avoid the rush .why is this election any diferent? i can’t help but think that a big part of why we are so divided is the nasty crazy atack ads . but the time anyone is elected we are convinced that all canidates are evil.if we could fund elections such a way that our reps get to congress oweing no one but those in their district. maybe things could get better. i question if the political mind is capable of solving anything other that getting elected? bottom line nothing will change this election other than who gets their pockets lined !

    • Bitter Libertarian


      Some corrected my comment when i said that Money was the root of all evil…BUT Follow the money and you find the WHO it is thats FUNDINg our problems!!

      • Bob Wire

        the “lust for money” ~ Money GOOD ! LUST/LOVE bad !

        We all like money, but will you lie, cheat and steal for it.

        Will you sell your soul for it?

        People do!

    • hundabuxt

      I agree with you. Special interests for all intents and purpose buy our elections with the intent to further their agenda which usually means special favors benifiting them be it corporations or wealthy individuals. Anybody who doesn’t believe there are strings attached to the money are seriously deluded. This is why we have inequity in taxation, in international trade, in numerious thing’s that essentually pick the pockets of the electorate. Our elected officials feed us whatever it takes to lull us into believing their promises while all the time wearing a vail of deception, which depends on our ignorance and inattention. One of the greatest flim flams in history has been pulled on the American people by Wall Street and large Banks. They got immensly wealthy selling “products” that due to their complexity and lack of attention by our government agencies paid to do so, bankrupted a massive section of the economic system. It was so large as to put finantial systems world wide at risk. Then, out of ostensible desperation to preserve the system, the American taxpaying people bailed out the very thieves who benifited from the scam due to the “too big to fail” mentality. History will write some very interesting thing’s about this decade. We got ripped off big! And it yet may bring us down. It certainly will lower our standard of living, perhaps permanently. The historic ignorance and lack of interest of the American electorate has ended. I have never seen this much action politically. The Tea Party has manifested the seething, albeit unorganized, anger and discontent boiling under the surface for decades. Love her or hate her, Sarah Palin is the one figure who has energized the conservative movement. She’s not presidential material yet but she serves a larger purpose right now. Metaphorically I’m reminded of a scene in the movie Patton where he drives up to an officer on the battle field speaking to another officer, map in hand pondering what to do about a very stubborn enemy problem. He fires the officer and puts the other officer in charge with the threat that he has two hours to break through the enemy or he (Patton) will fire him too. Love him or hate him Patton kicked ass and that’s the mood of what was previously a gaggle of unorganized amphibious crap who have finally had enough. We’re going to fire some asses and if the replacements don’t perform to our liking we’re going to fire them too.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy 131

    The Tea Party is here to stay. The 2010 elections are just a start of returning this country to its conservative religious principles, philophecies, and ideals. Not only the Tea Party but all voters will be watching the votes made by the Congressman of the next Congress to identify and target RINOs for the 2012 elections. Every knew this election couldn’t correct what Obama has done in 2 years and the Democratic control of both houses of Congress has done in 4 years, but was only a stop gap until the 2012 elections when the Tea Party will push to elect enough Congressmen to correct the socislistic, communistic, fascist, and marxist policies of Obama, his Czars, and the Democrats. In the mean time the Tea Party needs to organize a concerted effort to go after these liberal Judges, who are legislating from the bench, against the will of the people, by setting up impeachment processes where appropiate or campaigns of recall voting where required. After this is done, and RINOs have been identified, then all true Patriots need to join the Tea Party in finding and backing true Constitutionalist candidates for the 2012 elections and the real taking back of our country, hopefully with a Tea Party backed President. So this election is already decided and in the bag, lets do the work to get ready for the next one, the important one, the 2012 Presidential and national elections.

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy 131

      Philosophies, Every one knew…..

    • Bitter Libertarian

      If you hold out hope, prepare to have it crushed, starting here . . .

      Do you know these names?

      * Dave Camp
      * Wally Herger

      Or these names?

      * Jerry Lewis
      * Bill Young

      Camp and Herger are the two highest ranking Republicans on the House Ways and Means Committee — the committee tasked with figuring out how to get revenue for the government.

      And Lewis and Young are the two highest ranking Republicans on the powerful, big-spending Appropriations Committee.

      If you elect a Republican majority, these are the guys who will decide how much the government taxes, borrows, and spends. Will these men gives us real change that leads to real improvement? If their past is any guide then we can expect the following . . .

      * Camp and Herger will deploy deficit spending.
      * Lewis and Young will continue to expand the budget, especially for wars and projects that violate your civil liberties — things like national ID systems and warrant-less surveillance schemes.

      Camp and Lewis, the two men most likely to chair the two most important spending and taxing committees, are part of a Congressional caucus called the Republican Main Street Partnership. The “Main Streeters” call themselves “common-sense conservatives,” because, apparently, other fiscal conservatives lack common-sense. But the word “main” isn’t just a road in their lexicon, it’s code for “mainstream” — you know, like those wonderful people in the media.

      This tells us that Camp and Lewis won’t stray very far from the echo-chamber of the DC beltway crowd. They’re resistant to doing anything radical like actually reducing the size, scope, power, and expense of the federal government.

      Three of the four men named above also have reputations for being among the biggest porkers in Congress. One watchdog group named Lewis, Congress’s most corrupt member.

      So far, so bad, but what about . . .

      The Tea Party candidates

      My concern about investing hope in the GOP doesn’t end with powerful committee chairmanships. Sadly, even the non-mainstream candidates aren’t so great. For instance . . .

      Many so-called Tea Party candidates love the Military-Industrial-Complex, including its fondness for reckless wars that make us less safe. Such candidates also show little concern for the Constitution when it comes to things like due process.

      Even worse . . .

      Many Tea Party candidates are even bad on government spending. James Ostrowski has noted that there are nine Tea Party candidates for the U.S. Senate, and NONE OF THEM will name EVEN ONE government program they would eliminate.

      I’m sorry to break the news, but most of the Tea Party candidates are just as bad as the Republicans, who are just as bad as the Democrats. This is why . . .

      We don’t like talking about political personalities. They pretty much all stink.

      And we think partisan politics is even worse. Parties are palliative to thought. They’re toxic to discourse. They provide social proof that cognitive dissonance is just dandy, while logic and consistency are dangerously radical.

      Taken from a Downsize DC email

  • barbm

    if the mainstream media weren’t so hot to keep the broken 2-party system in place, we wouldn’t have had to take over the gop. many really good, qualified 3rd party candidates are out there, but the media won’t report on them. it’s because of past republicans’ actions that the dems are afraid and distrustful of the tea party. i doubt that my dem congressman will be ousted. he’s charlie gonzalez whose father, henry b., was beloved by one and all in san antonio, so he continues to ride on his dad’s coat tails. henry b. spent his entire political career trying to get the federal reserve out of our government and helped all his constituents no matter their race. charlie does nothing but help illegal hispanics stay in the u.s. and legal ones get more handouts. if the new gop does what we want them to do, perhaps he’ll be put out to pasture next time. i can only pray for that.

  • Clell Drumheller

    It would be quicker and easier to start a new party from scratch or close to it than to fight to overcome and replace the entrenched globalist leaders of the Republican Party. With all due respect to the current legitimate Tea Party movement (not that which was created or infiltrated and undermined by neo-con-lite Republican operatives), perhaps, the most powerful reform movement in Republican history took place over about fifteen years — from Goldwater to Reagan. However, G.H.W. Bush had effectively dismantled whatever reforms came from the so-called “Reagan Revolution” within a couple of years of the first Bush inauguration. Why try to revive a political body that is, as it were, riddled with AIDS and that is, almost, certain to experience a relapse? Why not start fresh with a healthy new body that presents no resistance to doing what is right for the country? Try calling 1-866-278-3927 on November 3rd.

  • Loves God

    I’m so fed up with politics and whose in control! It really doesn’t matter because everyone involved in the mess we are in has their agenda. It’s all about greed and pride folks! The one world order is at our heels and there isn’t much we can do about it. Focus on being the best you can be in your state of life and hold your head up high because you were born in the greatest place in the world – the United States of America! There will come a time when all of our rights will be taken away and we won’t know until it’s too late and the U.S. will be nothing more than a pleasant memory!

  • http://outlookexpress Edwin

    What the public that pays all the bills and every iota of a politicians existance is that if government grows to a certain degree the public loses control of the vote. We are on the same route as with social security where when started there was roughly ten working for each receiving; now it’s roughly a three to one margin. Same is happening with government with government expanding daily and taking over things which isn’t the job of government. On meet the press the question was asked governor Barbour how one hundred billion could be cut from government. Simple; demolish the department of education which isn’t anything but a bureauracy of family and friends and cronies given a job off the efforts of working men and women. They have a budget of roughly one hundred billion per year and over five thousand employees. But, the simple fact is that the federal government doesn’t own one school; they are all state owned or are private. Government created the department out of greed and power.
    Ours is a country of laws which require citizens to pay a tax to enable government to do their job which on the founding of the country was only the security of the country. The law also requires the government to do their job of security. For our government to refuse to close our borders and remove the criminals from this country it negates the publics burden of paying the tax by governments refusal in doing their job.
    Unless the public wakes up and realize that we no longer have a government of statesmen serving for the good of the country, and now have the equivalent of organized crime operating out of their own greed and quest for power, we will lose America.

  • Richard

    I’ll take gridlock over Congresses authoritarian, “we know what’s good for you” mentality, any day of the week. Here’s to the new gridlock.

  • hundabuxt

    One thing is certain: lacking spending restraint and reducing the federal government one of the most inefficient organizations in existance, we will go broke. England has finally taken austerity measures to get itself under control, albeit not enough, and we’ll be forced to do the same but probably too late. Massive inflation is lurking in our future and the rich will weather it just fine while the vast majority of the people of the US will suffer greatly. The problems likely will precipitate violence, which will mandate martial law. There will be blood. Our stander of living will cease being the envy of most of the rest of the world. Already desperate people are taking jobs paying far less than they previously had out of desperation.

  • Carol

    I have read a lot of the comments herein, as yet I see no one addressing what is about to happen to us all. worldwide. Are you all so numb to your surroundings, or do you not investigate anything other than politics ? Politics is a GAME, do you really think your vote counts ? It’s all to make you think, you play an important roll in the game. YOU DON’T.
    Why is no one asking the critical question of whether we’re going to be alive after 11-11-10. Are you not aware that CERN will attempt once again to smack two atoms together which are speeding at the speed of light, beneath the surface of our planet in an underground bunker ?
    Doesn’t it strike you as odd, that Obama and HIS family will be leaving our Country for 12 day while this is being performed ? He’ll be leaving Nov 4, the test will blast off from Nov 9 through 11 th.
    NO ONE knows its outcome, not even the mad scientists which will push the button to start the motion in progress.
    Don’t you wonder why main stream media hasn’t been reporting the real NEWS, such as thousands of people in the Gulf of Mexico are experiencing effects of Corexit 9500 chemical dispersant that their esphogus is descentigrating,having less lung capacity and their hearts are larger than normal, check out Riki Ott doctor from Alaska that has been working down south to help them. She’s finding this stuff out through autopsies she’s performing on all the DEAD ! Did you not read the story of the little boy who only put ONE of his feet in the water, and 2 days later he was DEAD. WAKE UP AMERICA.
    There is more at stake than weighing the scales to see who you’ll vote for.
    FEMA has already had plastic coffins made by the millions and millions for YOU and ME. Check it out. Simply type in FEMA coffins in your search engine, and Hundreds of people across this Nation are putting out their own video’s with proof of what is fixing to occur in these United States. Stop being complacent it’s coming. Secretary Napolitano ordered 4 Brigades of Russian troops Feb. 2009, they landed on our soil May of 2010. They are quietly being deployed across our Nation every 500 Miles around Large Populated Cities. The military vehicles (all white) with U.N. stamped on their back ends and Police written on the sides had been delivered to a base near Jacksonville Florida. 3 to 4 THOUSAND OF THEM. Within a few weeks of their discovery, they’ve been moved. Pictures of them were also on Semi Trucks. The New World Order is about to be implemented. A REVOLUTION is about to occur they say.
    It’s been said that we will be in a World War III by December with IRAN, this will keep out military deployed and busy while we’re being sent to one of the 800 FEMA camps across our Nation. They are ready to exterminate US to bring down the population to a manageable size. Men, women and children will be separated. You will have a blue, yellow and or red paint put on your mailbox or other part of you residence. RED is an instant KILL. Blue is they’ll attempt to brainwash you into the acceptance of the NWO, it is EVIL. Good verses Evil, folks, we ARE living in the end times as the Bible foretold of.Yellow is a direct send to FEMA CAMP. But all those will not be kept alive, due to the need to downsize the population.
    Please do your own research, I can’t possibly divulge all I’ve learned in these past two months.
    Have you not noticed the Chemtrails. This is chemicals our government is militarily spraying on us. Do you not notice, LOOK UP for goodness sakes. When you see the trails behind a plane that goes on forever instead of short burst of fuel getting to a higher altitude, those are chemtrails. Floride in your drinking water, it in your drinking water, IT’S A POISON, they used it in the concentration camps in GERMANY in higher doses, to make the prisoners complacent. That’s why they were docile and never fought the few which held them captive. WAKE UP AMERICA. We’re being propagandized to DEATH !
    Don’t you wonder why we never hear anything about the Gulf anymore ? Have you heard about Synthia, it’s a mad scientific experiment which has gone awry. Terribly wrong. They loosed this in our OCEANS, it was to eat the OIL. Our oceans are devoid of LIFE. BP has gone out in ships and took in all the dead whales and dolphins. Crabs and crustasian

    • Craig

      Chemtrails? You are a god damned loon.

      • Vigilant

        You’re right, Craig. I wouldn’t even try to address someone so paranoid and deranged. Carol, seek psychiatric help ASAP!

  • Carol

    I have read a lot of the comments herein, as yet I see no one addressing what is about to happen to us all. worldwide. Are you all so numb to your surroundings, or do you not investigate anything other than politics ? Politics is a GAME, do you really think your vote counts ? It’s all to make you think, you play an important roll in the game. YOU DON’T.
    Why is no one asking the critical question of whether we’re going to be alive after 11-11-10. Are you not aware that CERN will attempt once again to smack two atoms together which are speeding at the speed of light, beneath the surface of our planet in an underground bunker ?
    Doesn’t it strike you as odd, that Obama and HIS family will be leaving our Country for 12 day while this is being performed ? He’ll be leaving Nov 4, the test will blast off from Nov 9 through 11 th.
    NO ONE knows its outcome, not even the mad scientists which will push the button to start the motion in progress.
    Don’t you wonder why main stream media hasn’t been reporting the real NEWS, such as thousands of people in the Gulf of Mexico are experiencing effects of Corexit 9500 chemical dispersant that their esphogus is descentigrating,having less lung capacity and their hearts are larger than normal, check out Riki Ott doctor from Alaska that has been working down south to help them. She’s finding this stuff out through autopsies she’s performing on all the DEAD ! Did you not read the story of the little boy who only put ONE of his feet in the water, and 2 days later he was DEAD. WAKE UP AMERICA.
    There is more at stake than weighing the scales to see who you’ll vote for.
    FEMA has already had plastic coffins made by the millions and millions for YOU and ME. Check it out. Simply type in FEMA coffins in your search engine, and Hundreds of people across this Nation are putting out their own video’s with proof of what is fixing to occur in these United States. Stop being complacent it’s coming. Secretary Napolitano ordered 4 Brigades of Russian troops Feb. 2009, they landed on our soil May of 2010. They are quietly being deployed across our Nation every 500 Miles around Large Populated Cities. The military vehicles (all white) with U.N. stamped on their back ends and Police written on the sides had been delivered to a base near Jacksonville Florida. 3 to 4 THOUSAND OF THEM. Within a few weeks of their discovery, they’ve been moved. Pictures of them were also on Semi Trucks. The New World Order is about to be implemented. A REVOLUTION is about to occur they say.
    It’s been said that we will be in a World War III by December with IRAN, this will keep out military deployed and busy while we’re being sent to one of the 800 FEMA camps across our Nation. They are ready to exterminate US to bring down the population to a manageable size. Men, women and children will be separated. You will have a blue, yellow and or red paint put on your mailbox or other part of you residence. RED is an instant KILL. Blue is they’ll attempt to brainwash you into the acceptance of the NWO, it is EVIL. Good verses Evil, folks, we ARE living in the end times as the Bible foretold of.Yellow is a direct send to FEMA CAMP. But all those will not be kept alive, due to the need to downsize the population.
    Please do your own research, I can’t possibly divulge all I’ve learned in these past two months.
    Have you not noticed the Chemtrails. This is chemicals our government is militarily spraying on us. Do you not notice, LOOK UP for goodness sakes. When you see the trails behind a plane that goes on forever instead of short burst of fuel getting to a higher altitude, those are chemtrails. Floride in your drinking water, it in your drinking water, IT’S A POISON, they used it in the concentration camps in GERMANY in higher doses, to make the prisoners complacent. That’s why they were docile and never fought the few which held them captive. WAKE UP AMERICA. We’re being propagandized to DEATH !
    Don’t you wonder why we never hear anything about the Gulf anymore ? Have you heard about Synthia, it’s a mad scientific experiment which has gone awry. Terribly wrong. They loosed this in our OCEANS, it was to eat the OIL. Our oceans are devoid of LIFE. BP has gone out in ships and took in all the dead whales and dolphins. The food chain for ocean life has been killed off as well. Submarines dumped millions of gallon of Corexit into the oceans. The ocean current has come to a screeching HALT !
    All volcano’s in the WORLD went off at the same time THE SAME TIME PEOPLE. They are still flowing continuously ! Check it out. Spread the word. Main stream media is government BOUGHT, they tell you what our government wants you to know. Reporters are reporting on youtube the REAL NEWS not the stupid Hollywood news and things to keep you ignorant. Forget your newspapers, they aren’t going to tell you either. They’ve already gotten word on what to print and what not to.
    There is a volcano in the Gulf of Mexico, it can blow at any. Thousands of miles of ocean shoreline will fall into the water. Sunomies will occur. Earthquakes. Scientists are attempting to get the news out but few are able through the Internet. Obama wants the Internet to be shut down. He along with other past Presidents want a ONE WORLD GOVERN

    • Oil41


      Get you a case of beer, some dozen bags of Cheetos, and sit down, mellow out, and watch the baseball playoffs or a few football games. College games are best.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      You forgot the spaceships that are coming in 2012…LOL

      Just Kidding…however..if I do find myself in the world you may accurately be prortraying…I will go down slowly against the evil ones.

      • Bob Wire

        “You forgot the spaceships that are coming in 2012…LOL”

        Yea, I got the memo, they are coming for all the truly intelligent people.

        Just allow me to say “Bye” if I don’t see you between now and then with the packing and all.

        • Bob Wire

          Carol, This experiment will work out fine, it’s on a very, very small and controlled scale. It’s just one more step for mankind, one we have little choice in making. If we can, we must try. We are here to learn and learn we shall.

          It’s okay to be fearful, but it’s okay.

    • Karolyn

      This is all a bit too much to comprehend, and I think you’ve gone a little bit overboard Carol. If we were to believe all the conspiracy theories and scientific theories there are, we might as well just blow our brains out. One thing, how can you say there is no life in our oceans? Where are all the fish, shrimp and other seafoods coming from? You must spend all your time looking up kook theories. Hey, some of it may have credence, but if I were you, I’d do as Oil says – relax! You’re gonna give yourself a heart attack! Nothing in this world is real anyway!

    • bruce

      Do you sit in your basement with a tinfoil hat on?

      • DaveH

        You like that phrase, don’t you Bruce? Where did I hear that before? Hmmm.

    • Agent Orange

      Get your facts straight, Carol! First of all, Corexit is nothing more than a super-strong grade of laundry detergent and MUCH LESS harmful than the oil it disperses (I’ve personally seen the MSDS, so you can’t argue with me on this). Second of all, there’s still a lot of fish out in the ocean despite all the oil spills (just look at the supermarket shelves, where do you think all that fish comes from?) Third of all, those “chemtrails” you’re bloviating about are not “chemtrails” at all, but CONTRAILS caused by the water vapor in the hot engine exhaust condensing in cold damp air (I know firsthand, I’ve got a private pilot’s license and they teach us all this meteorology crap in ground school). And finally, fluoride in drinking water used to be added in really tiny, nontoxic quantities to strengthen people’s teeth (and BTW, it’s been phased out in most places). So my advice to you is, go see your psychiatrist and take some pills or something for your delusions. Anyway, I hope YOU get your mailbox painted red — the world could do without all those retards and psychos like you.

    • Al Sieber

      Well Carol, we still have our guns.

  • Oil41

    Bush was bad bad bad. But, he was better than Gore or Kerry. He just fit in too well with the Democrat legislative branch.

    Hope the elections bring about some noticable reversal of the current trend.

    If not, I am at a loss as to how the current scheme is going to work out for the better.

    • Bob Wire

      “Bush was bad bad bad. But, he was better than Gore or Kerry”
      You say that , but in fact, we’ll never know will we?

      Harry Truman was a “sleeper” and real surprise to everyone.

      • Vigilant

        …Except that Kerry/Gore are opportunistic, hypocritical, tax-evading lefties who would have started the acceleration towards the ruination of our country even before Obama got a shot at it.

        Truman, roundly despised due to getting us into an avoidable war in Korea, was somehow resurrected through revisionist history into some kind of saint. Nonetheless, I’d take a Harry Truman long before I would accept any of the current crop of communists in the Democratic Party. Truman himself would no doubt agree with me.

  • Miriam

    It can be great for some one to teach a class about Symbiosis. It certainly need in Washington.

    I would like to share something that I wrote last night:
    There is no Gold in this world,
    Can ever buy my Vote;
    There is no money in the world,
    Can ever buy my soul.
    I LOVE my Nation at whole,
    I LOVE my UNITED STATES over all;
    There is nothing in this world,
    Can ever destroy my word.
    With all of this I may say,
    Obama beware of your fame.
    I do not Vow to ciphers,
    Only to GOD and my NATION;
    And with this words I conclude

    My LOVE and GOD Bless you all;


  • FreedomFighter

    “Republican establishment, sees Tea Party candidates as a threat to the status quo.”

    The status quo is a median, do nothing status, reserved wallowowling, weakling weasles that will not or do not have any firm beliefs in America values or greatness, no morals or slimtonone morals, and will do whatever it takes to take care of themselves. The left hates and wants to change America, the “status quo” want to get rich selling America out.

    At this point in history “status quo” will be defined as “selling out of America”.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • Carol

    One last thing, our military is further advanced than we could ever imagine. They are 50 to 60 years ahead of what we thought. We are in the dark ages compared to our governments capability.
    A patent in the US patent office, on a scientist which figured out HAARP and it’s numerous capabilities, and project blue beam, they CAN and HAVE manipulated our WEATHER, causing earthquakes, tornado’s, and hurricanes. This is a lot to digest at once, but you need to wake up.
    Our government is out to KILL US OFF just like the JEWS.
    I have been targeted, so no doubt I’ll die soon.
    Have you not noticed in your town how the police and sirens are going off constantly, ambulances making runs at all hours, it’s all practice for what’s about to happen.
    Also this HAARP has the capabilities of sending sound waves to your brain, to individual people, making them hear voices etc. Be also prepared for the hoax of UFO’s which will shortly span the skyline all over the WORLD. The scientists figured how to do holagrams on a plasma in the atmosphere. Soon they will project them onto the sky and make you think we are being visited by aliens. Washington has already chosen an Ambassador to whom the aliens are to make contact with. This is for REAL. check it out. Then they’ll use this HAARP which is in ALASKA, huge antenna built there, more spread across the Nation and or Satellite, beaming messages back to earth, speaking to you verbally to make YOU think it’s GOD talking. Each Nation in the world will hear from their own God in which they worship, Budda, whomever and it will be in their native tongue.
    God be with you all. I pray you will WAKE UP and go do some research before it’s too late and the internet is shut down to prevent the spread of this horrible plan. Repent of your sins, set things right with your family and friends if need be. Whatever God you worship, PRAY !!!!!

    • FreedomFighter

      Not to frightin you more but…

      The USA military advances go beyound anything most can imagine and frankly I think anyone attacking America is suicidal at best.

      Aliens…we have like 20 million illegal aliens now bleeding the system dry, at least the ET will pay his way with high tech advances.

      200 years ago farting baffalo manipulates weather, the US military finally caught up to “Farting Baffallo” an old indian was once named this, very popular at parties.

      Trick or Treat

      • Agent Orange

        So why don’t we send all 20 million of them back to Mars? ;-)

    • Michael J.

      The internet is a wonderful tool that has produced an evironment where it is increasingly hard for the clandestine work of big government and despotic dictators to hide.
      In addition, just a few clicks can provide you with insight on most any subject. The danger is that the internet was created by people and people can be deceitful.
      By all means continue to research but also you may wish to develope a strong sense of scepticism. Happy hunting and remember to double and triple check your sources.

    • Vigilant


      “Also this HAARP has the capabilities of sending sound waves to your brain, to individual people, making them hear voices etc.”

      You are stating as fact a scientific impossibility. Sound waves travel through air and cannot be heard other than by our ears. No one has, and it’s doubtful anyone will ever be able to, create an electronic device to cause your brain to hear apeech. Take a few basic science courses.

      The only people who hear voices are mentally ill and should be institutionalized.

    • Teresa

      I have seen this farm w/the coffins on it…this is not what you say but actually portable coffins for the government in which if we were ever faced w/a chemical war, or war period, which I see coming in the near future. Obama knows the war is coming to us, hell anyone can foresee that…but what you speak of is just a conspricy in the making. Yes there is portable coffins…was 500,000-700,000 at one time. There is actually many major citys w/these stackable coffins placed outside the cities for that purpose.

    • Karolyn

      Carol – You don’t believe there really IS life on other planets? Why would there not be? It’s awfully arrogant for we humans to think that we are all there is. And the’re probably more advanced than we are and don’t have war and hate.

  • Lucian Dorus

    For those of you who think that more than two major parties may be beneficial for our country, please have a look at Canada which has four of them, in alphabetical order: Conservative, Liberal, New-Democrat, and Québécois. That situation limits the alternatives of having a majority, encourages endless negotiations and posturing, opportunistic coalitions, and because of that is less efficient.
    It would be much better if the Tea Party continued to exist as a movement without an elected leader, even if with several leading spokespersons. Its main purpose should be to maintain powerfully a centrist point of view in the forefront!

    • Bitter Libertarian

      “That situation limits the alternatives of having a majority, encourages endless negotiations and posturing, opportunistic coalitions, and because of that is less efficient.”

      So let me get this believe that our system is MORE efficient?? I guess if you consider stripping freedom, massive spending you would be right.

      So lets play this one out….if our Congress & Senate had 3 or 4 political parties in there, divided different ways that would give different ideas & beliefs on the problem (bill), for instance like health care, and the vote didnt pass because they couldnt agree, that would be BAD???

    • 45caliber

      Personally, I would PREFER the government to be as slow as possible! There are very few things except a declaration of war that requires speed in the government. The slower things are, the more likely they are to either get them right or to simply blow off the unneeded spending.

      • Oil41

        I agree.

        • Bob Wire

          in most cases I too would agree.

    • BigBadJohn

      “encourages endless negotiations and posturing, opportunistic coalitions, and because of that is less efficient.”

      And that is bad??? The problem in the USA with two parties is they will not talk to each other! Health care is a prime example, we NEED health-care reform, the republicans had some good ideas but they would not sit down to the negotiating table to come up with a compromise. Playing politics was more important then the good of the country. So now we are stuck with a bill that has some unacceptable provisions in it, and is missing some of the good republican ideas. It will most likely never be changed.

      • DaveH

        We need healthcare reform all right. Like get the government out of it!

      • Vigilant


        “the republicans had some good ideas but they would not sit down to the negotiating table to come up with a compromise.”

        GET REAL! I’m tired of hearing that DAMNED lie. Obama & Co. FROZE the Repubs out of all the important meetings re Obamacare because (1) they didn’t want to hear any real ideas, such as tort reform and allowing insurance companies to compete accross state lines, etc., etc., and (2) THEY, the Dems, wanted to make the Repubs look like the party of “No” for their own political advantage.

        You’re entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Right on Vigilant, The repubs were pinned down, even if they brought offers to the table (and they did) they were TC filed & made to look as if they offered nothing and keep reporting it as such. Kick the repubs while they’re down and the libs did, over and over again.

          • Bob Wire

            Well, perhaps in the sense, there was no interest from DNC rank and file to kiss their “collective” butts and make them feel at home. The GOP showed little interest in the process. Any GOP member that did was quickly brought in line with the party faithful.

            Or did you see it another way?

        • Vigilant

          The FACTS see it the other way.

        • BigBadJohn

          A gaffe, Michael Kinsley famously mused, is what results when a politician inadvertently tells the truth. And so it was Monday when Utah Republican Senator Orrin Hatch came clean about his party’s scorched-earth opposition to health care reform being championed by President Obama and Congressional Democrats. Hatch acknowledged, as I’ve long argued, that the GOP is worried not that Obama’s health care initiatives might fail, but that they might succeed.

          • Vigilant

            Wake up. That was no gaffe. Success of Obamacare would mean that the Constitution would have been subverted by forcing individuals to purchase a commercial product, and that Gov’t would drive all competition out of business by offering taxpayer-subsidized rates.

            If the new Congress has any backbone, Obamacare will never succeed, and that’s as it should be.

    • JC

      More than one party tends to freeze up government action. And anything that keeps these people arguing with each other and doing nothing to us, is ok by me.

  • chris

    Sounds like an Obama lover wrote this, poor guy.

    • Bob Wire

      LOL! President Obama Lover, if you please.

      • Vigilant

        No, “Obama lover” is correct. It remains to be seen whether or not he is a legitimate POTUS.

        How does one respect a “leader” who doesn’t have a shred of respect for the people he pretends to lead?

        • Bob Wire

          Well, you have the right to be incorrect but it fails to change the facts.

  • http://none Mike

    Ok here is my view on this I have stated it before so this to some will seem like a rehash but here it is anyway. What we really need to do is elect real constitutionilst in this term. After 1 and 1/2 years in we watch the voteing records of these people (whether from our state or not). Once the records are in and if it goes back to buisness as usual for the most part.We contact these folks that are good conservitives in mass and encourage them to switch party affilations mid steam to form said 3rd party. We also seek out like minded people to them and encourage them to run on this third ticket as well. Only by doing it this way are we going to get the masses(people who just identify with one party or the other without understanding what they are voting for)to pay attention to said 3rd party. I for one really do not think untill we get a viable 3rd party we arent going to change much in washington. Too many in both the democratic party as well as republican feel safe in their parties. By this I mean it allows them to vote on these legislations and then mask themselves behind a party platform. Real reform will come when they can no longer hide behind party politics and have to state their ideas for all to see. Imagin the chagrin in both parties if in 2012 we could drop a bomb on them with the election of good solid 3rd party canidates in some key states. I dont think even at first it would take that many to send a message to the rest say somewhere between 30 and 40 of them. We will get true change only when we shake this 2 party system and knock out some of the dead wood. Mike L.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    LET’S HOPE TOMORROW WILL BE A CONSERVATIVE/GOP VICTORY!!!! And what then?? All I can think of is 2 things. 1st, don’t repeat past mistakes. 2nd, BE PATIENT!! We still have a ways to go!! Over the past 5 years, the GOP made some mistakes by wandering off the conservative field and siding with liberal democraps. Don’t do that again!! DON”T pander to leftwing democraps!! I.e., we want Obummer-care repealed and replaced with a better reform bill, such as tort reform, HSAs and other free market solutions. And let’s roll back some of this profligate reckless spending. It’s important to remember that a large % of voters aren’t voting for the GOP, but rather are just voting against the Democraps, who’ve really proven to be a disaster over the past two years!!…..Likewise, many voters should heed this advice. BE PATIENT!! The best we can do with a GOP controlled house is to stop the advancement of the BHO/Pelosi radical leftwing agenda. To reverse the damage they’ve already done, we still need to win back the White House in 2012, and perhaps gain a 60 seat majority in the Senate to avoid democrap filibusters….And even if the GOP stumbles or makes a few mistakes, be patient and forgiving, as (with a few exceptions, such as Mayor Mike Bloomterd or Colon Powell types) they certainly can’t be any worse, or even as bad as the democraps we now have. Remember, to err is human. To really foul up this country and its economy, it means putting democraps in power, as evidenced by the disastrous 11/4/2008 election. Anyway, we know that the 2006 and 2008 elections have had serious negative consequences, thus we must avoid repeating such errors in the future!!

    • Agent Orange

      I understand why you hate Bloomturd, but could you please explain what’s so wrong with “Colon Powell”?

      • Bob Wire

        I’d be willing to guess! Two reasons and one being he refused to back the party faithful.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    Boston University economist Laurence Kotlikoff says US government debt is not $13.5-trillion (US), which is 60 per cent of current gross domestic product, as global investors and American taxpayers think, but rather 14-fold higher: $200-trillion – 840 per cent of current GDP. “Let’s get real,” Prof. Kotlikoff says. “The US is bankrupt.”

    Writing in the September issue of Finance and Development, a journal of the International Monetary Fund, Prof. Kotlikoff says the IMF itself has quietly confirmed that the US is in terrible fiscal trouble – far worse than the Washington-based lender of last resort has previously acknowledged. “The US fiscal gap is huge,” the IMF asserted in a June report. “Closing the fiscal gap requires a permanent annual fiscal adjustment equal to about 14 per cent of US GDP.”

    This sum is equal to all current US federal taxes combined. The consequences of the IMF’s fiscal fix, a doubling of federal taxes in perpetuity, would be appalling – and possibly worse than appalling.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Why are food and energy becoming more expensive? Because the foreigners are buying food and energy. And there are a lot of them. Foreigners, that is.

      And why is that bad news? Where does that leave the typical US retiree? Without increases in the CPI the US government doesn’t adjust Social Security payments to the upside. Meanwhile, the real cost of being retired – food, fuel…along with everything else – goes up.

      Most likely, the strain of trying to support so many retired people will destroy the modern welfare state model. As in Argentina, old folks will find that they don’t get from the government what they were promised. They’ll have to figure out how to make do on their own.

      Our advice: don’t grow old. Don’t retire. Don’t get sick. Don’t trust the feds. And don’t sell your gold.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        Central bankers and finance ministers are proudly doing things that they used to be punished for. Henry II brought his bankers together in 1124. Those found guilty of debasing the coinage – an earlier form of quantitative easing – were either castrated or they had their right hands cut off. What can you say about that kind of monetary policy? It worked!

        • http://none Mike

          Bitter My fear is we have allready debased the curriencies beyond repair. This happend once before and resulted in one of the largest seizures of wealth in america during the thirties. The goverment completely stopped minting gold coins at that point and started stockpileing gold at fort knox. That did solve the problem for a while at least we still had reserves to back the fiat currrinces we were printing at that time (silver and gold certificates). Once again in 1964 the feds stepped in again and stopped the printing of silver and gold certificats.Also at this time they started to debase the coinages by minting silver coins that contained copper and other base metals. fast forward to today. We are printing money at an alarming rate just to cover the debts we allready have. I fear that this rate will soon surpas the reserves in gold and silver we have stockpiled at various locations in the U.S. When that happens (if it hasent allready) The U.S currincies will no longer be backed by anything but the goverments promises to pay it back. Reminds me of a term my father used alot of it(money) being as worthless as the paper its printed on. The steps we are going to have to take are going to be many and hard.starting with but not limited to the elemination of the federal banks. The next steps will be in the form of goverment reforms such as elimanation of unconstititutiional departments. Once thoes 2 are in hand (10+ years for elimanation and revamps) We must start to looking to return powers to the states that have been userped by our grand federal goverment. Such as education healthcare for the poor and taxes. Once that is done then we may be back to a federal goverment that is for the people by the people only carrying out duties that it was first constitionally mandated to do. But untill then I am afraid we are headed to the point where spending that has been enacted over the past 6 years will destroy the confidence of we the people and the rest of the world in our dollar. And the goverments ability to pay it back. So soon Ill trade you a wheelbarrow load of cash for a loaf of bread or a gallon of gas. Because as my father used to say its as worthless as the paper its printed on. Mike L.

      • Denniso

        I wonder if you realize that SS and Medicare can be ‘fixed’ overnight by adjusting upward the current income cap on SS taxes going into the system? Simple, and the wealthy are getting off easy on SS taxes that they pay in now. It’s a joke that the income cap at which a person stops paying into SS is only $106,000…all income above that relatively low amount is not taxed for SS. Raise or eliminate the cap and we have plenty of money for the future retirees…simple fix, that even some of the rich agree should be done.

        • Bitter Libertarian

          Chasing the problems symptoms always looks bright & promising, however you wind up going full circle and righ back to square one. Fixing our monetary abuses & problems is Key to striking at the source of the problem.

        • Craig

          I got an even better Idea. Stop all future SS. Let those on it finish out. Anybody new gets to do something novel. Save for your own god damned retirement. If you are too stupid or lazy to do it, hope you can sweet talk friends or relatives to take care of your lazy ignorant arse. If not, then let nature take its course. You die out, thereby eliminating your lazy/stupid gene from the gene pool.

          • Bitter Libertarian

            Bravo! LOVE that Idea!

          • Denniso

            Craig,you are what’s wrong w/ this country…selfish,greedy and stupid as well. You,like many dimwits,want to go back to the 1800′s when we let people die in the streets,little kids worked their lives away and the wealthy controlled everything that working people could do. If we ever returned to those bad old days,you would be one of the first whining that gov’t should do something about the lousy conditions you lived in. Gene pool? Hopefully you have no children that you’re brainwashing w/ your stupid view of the world.

          • Claire

            Just make damn sure you have plenty of money hoarded away for old age. It will be here before you know it. If you end up in a nursing home you can count on $3000 to $6000 per month, depending upon wanting to be in a half-way decent place. Right now that is the “going” rate. Think of what the cost will be when and if you end up in a nursing home. My sister had a stroke, she ended up in a nursing care facility next to the hospital. It cost her between $5000 to $6000 per month. And that was 5 years ago. She was in that place for a year, then went to an assisted care place. Now it costs her $ 4000 a month. Needless to say, she had plenty of money but it is dwindling. This sounds crude, but if she outlives her money, she will end up on public aid and that is no laughing matter.

          • Denniso

            If someone is stuck in a nursing home and can’t afford it, the gov’t will take what the person has and pay for the rest.

          • Karolyn

            Craig – You wouldn’t be so quick to condemn if it were you or a member of your family would you?

        • DaveH

          Yeah, sure, make the Rich pay for everything. Like Cuba did, or the USSR is doing. The Marxist solution works so well. Everbody is equal (except for the leaders). Equally poor that is.
          So, stealing the money of others is yet another of Dumniso’s harebrain schemes. Maybe, Dumniso, if we had just kept the Government’s hand out the cookie jar, we wouldn’t be having these problems, would we? So now, Dumniso wants the government to pillage and squander the cookie jars of other people.

          • Denniso

            DaveH’s mind appears to be fading…there is no USSR anymore,and the current country of Russia is very unequal in it’s wealth distribution. Many very rich and many more barely making it.

            I guess DaveH would like to get rid of Social Security altogether…I wonder how many people here would agree to that? It’s great to see a libertarian so concerned that the richest among us may not be able to buy a 2nd island or a fourth Mercedes…I don’t see that same level of concern for hard working people who struggle their entire life just to stay alive.

          • JC

            That’s right Denniso, there is nlo USSR anymore. And do you know why?
            Because communism and socialism are dead ends. They can not sustain themselves. So let’s not have a USSA either. Back to the Constitution folks!

          • DaveH

            From your many comments, Dumniso, I can see that you don’t have a clue about economics or freedom, so I think I should get a group together (call them government) and take over your finances for your own good.

          • Denniso

            I wasn’t the one using the non existent USSR as an example..I’m afraid that you look more the fool. Live w/ it…

        • Oil41

          Most people who make greater than 100k are self employed. Their SS and Medicare tax is 15 plus percent. The real problem is the high cost of health care brought on by government involvement in the form of Medicare and Medicade and the availability of health insurance through employers. These funds were milked.

          When my grandfather was a Doctor, 1930 to 1980 roughly, doctors earned more than the average person but not like a rock star. The coalition of hospital, doctor, and insurance company had not formed.

          As some on here have said, it all works out better when everyone paddles their own boat up the river of life. Otherwise, government has to step in and determine who and what is most worthy of the collective dollar. What is to be the determining criteria. Popularity, notariety, marketing ability, ability to touch our hearts, or some other hook into human sympathies?

    • BigBadJohn

      Probably true, you are talking about Social Security which is unfunded, Pensions for government employees including ex-military that are unfunded, medicare which is pay as you go, and private pensions. Reagan let corporations raid pension funds in the 80′s so now most of those pension funds can not pay, so – you guessed it – the American tax payer picks up the tab.

  • http://none OJD

    My son is 14 & is so concerned about the spending , the lack of ethics
    & lack of control with our current politicians , that when he meets an adult
    he gets us aside and asks if they are a liberal democrate.

    Mighty interesting.. They can’t even fool the kids any more.

    • Bob Wire

      He’s too young for such a heavy burden. ~ a 14 year old boy child needs to focus on what’s before him , things that’s within his power to effect change. Selecting and studying under his mentors. Learning to appreciate the virtues and graces of life. One needs to learn direction and purpose, it’s in his years this things are concreted in permanently.

    • Bob Wire

      I don’t see anything interesting at all. Sounds like he’s being taught “what” to think and not “how” to think, while depending on “labels and boxes” for clear identification from a predisposed bias.

      The Arabs and Jews raise their children in much the same way and we fight the fruits of their labor everyday.

  • curtis

    now is the chance for americans to reclaim our government.the entire system has been hijacked by communists and big business world government for tariff free shipping worldwide .we need to use this opportunity to purge them from the is our chance to destroy the democratic party and in 2 years gut the republican party and replace them all with americans who will stand up for the constitution. there has been little difference in either party for so long they seem like twins.I see a third party forming out of the tea party candidates due to the extreme views of the democratic communist party on the left,the new world order republicans on the right and true americans stuck in the middle.

    • BigBadJohn

      “the entire system has been hijacked by communists and big business world government for tariff free shipping worldwide ”

      comes down to same arguments that have always been there except the rhetoric has been cranked up.

      Democrats have always wanted to regulate business and at least appear to help the working man. They like social programs and workers safety programs, they sometimes go too far. This is what the new rhetoric now calls communism, or is that old McCarthyism rhetoric?
      Keep in mind in the 70′s the top tax rate was 70%, it is half of that now.

      Republicans have always looked out for the rich and corporations. They LOVE deregulation which was the cause of the financial meltdown. One of their vows is to REPEAL financial reform so the wall-street types and crooked bankers can keep fleecing you legally. They have fought every attempt to end tax give a ways to corporations that outsource employees.

      Be careful what you wish for.

      • Agent Orange

        Hey BigBadJohn, the REAL cause of the meltdown WASN’T all the big corporations fleecing the little guy — the real cause was Carter’s Community Reinvestment Act which FORCED banks to give mortgages to people who couldn’t afford to pay them back — until finally, thirty years later, these unpaid mortgages built up to a critical mass and the whole money flow just backed up. I guess your college professors brainwashed you a little too much with their Keynesian economics and class-warfare history — you gotta get this out of your system if you don’t wanna go crazy one day.

        • BigBadJohn

          Maybe according to Rush…..

          But according to Business week

          Community Reinvestment Act had nothing to do with subprime crisis
          Posted by: Aaron Pressman on September 29, 2008
          It’s telling that, amid all the recent recriminations, even lenders have not fingered CRA. That’s because CRA didn’t bring about the reckless lending at the heart of the crisis. Just as sub-prime lending was exploding, CRA was losing force and relevance. And the worst offenders, the independent mortgage companies, were never subject to CRA — or any federal regulator. Law didn’t make them lend. The profit motive did. And that is not political correctness. It is correctness.

  • Patriot1776

    When the dust settles and you all finally see that this election didn’t change anything except for a few fringe issues, just like the last election and the one before that and the one before that and so on and so on, maybe then you will all wake up and see the people don’t have the power anymore and never will as long as we keep playing their game. Republican good Democrat bad or vice versa, bullshit. REPUBLICRATS BAD thats all there is too it. have fun with your imperial two party system with one head. I pray we can wake up soon.

    • BigBadJohn

      yup 1994 all over again – ain’t nothing gonna change

  • Donald Mc Guigan


  • Angel

    I hope they do a better job in supporting our veterans!

    “A new report by a leading veterans group has awarded grades to members of Congress based on their support of veterans issues. One party failed miserably. Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America (IAVA) gave out 154 D and F grades. 142 of those went to Republicans and 12 to Democrats — meaning that 92 percent of the D and F grades went to members of the GOP.

    Of the 94 congressmen that received A or A+ grades, 91 are Democrats and three are Republicans.”

    This sickens me!

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Its called Divide and Conquer! Working isnt it!

      • Bob Wire

        No, it’s called saying something that “sounds good” for political purposes but not really meaning it. ~ The track record is there for all to see. No mystery ,no secret.

        The VA is looked upon as a social issue by the GOP and the “stingy” starts coming out on the”tail end” of the commitment after the “Goods” already delivered. Political representation on the part of the GOP for Veterans has to be leveraged and extracted from their white knuckle grip.

        Won’t you take this “ribbon” as a token of our appreciation and be just quite, knowing you’ve been honored? man up! The walking wounded live with such thoughts daily.

        For some, it’s sometimes best to die then to live. Do you know of the suicide rate of returning vets?

        A soldier ask of leadership only for a “good reason” to fight, otherwise they are mercenaries with zero benefits.

        I figured it up once, ~ I was paid 14 cents per hour for my tour of duty, so it’s not about the money.

        • Bitter Libertarian

          I Served this nation for 20 years, and I assure you that neither party really cares about those that serve or are serving. Its just another “Item” to toss around and use for Voting fodder.

  • http://com i41

    To the democrat, that told Onumnutts to shove it, he for once spoke the truth. Onumnutts backed his good buddy Sanders, who is an avowed socialist communist. Just shows the National Marxist Communist Democrat Party and their detremintal plans for the USA. Any sorry a$$ed person that loves to spout, they are a proud democrat, shows how stupid democrats in reality are. Republicans have selected less than stellar canidates, but the democrats, just cann’t get away from pus gutted representatives, who want government, to be in total control over everyone’s life and work, down to what you eat. The NMCDP has always catered to registered communists and marxists hoping for a dictatorship to run government,Wilson, FDR, McGovern, Rapist Clinton. and now the Marxist Muslim Moron Obammee and all other communist dorks. McGovern and jug ears Obamee were both senators and always have plenty of socialist freaks with them in houses of Congress and in SC. After Wed. we will have to keep going after all elected persons, everyone knows the democraps never listen to any of the citizens, so plan on to keep hammering the jackasses of both parties. It will take several elections and the education of the kids in schools, and removal of a lots of communist professors, in the dork colleges. The idea of becoming or voting libertarian , dream land or any other fringe party wonks, will make sure the NMCDP and their union whores stay in power and destroy America. Get involved and actually change the liberal crap in the republican party and marxist communist crap brained dictator dreamers in the demcrat party. There is never been a conservative democrat, but there sure has been lots of liberial republicans.

    • Agent Orange

      For an example of a conservative democrat, how’bout Toby Keith?

  • Janice Fortin

    I understand the folks who are embittered and disillusioned, and believe we are all setting ourselves up for more of the same. We listen to the promise of the Tea Party: pressure on elected officers will not let up until they make good their promise to turn America around. they say a lesson learned is a lesson well taught. oooogh
    That hurts. But I do believe Americans realize how close to complete communism we are, and will march in the street before we are ever called apathetic again. Does that mean we will be satisfied with Hispanics in AZ studying ethnic subjects that plant them firmly against America instead of the required assimilation? Does it mean we will shrug disinterestedly at the sight of communists barely under cover in the administration? Will we be “ok” with czars who answer to noone but the president? Will we be satisfied to ignore disappearing $$ in the federal reserve? Satisfied with double standards with muslim and christian religions? Will we allow America to disintegrate such as Germany has outlined is happening there and in other countries of western culture? will we demand assimilation, and protect the foundation of our country by keeping immigrants as minority, Americans:majority? Will we have what it takes to insist on control of our own country and borders? We have what it takes. Commit once again to faith in our most precious right:
    THE AMERICAN RIGHT TO VOTE. Make Tuesday, November 2, 2010, a day that makes history!

    • Bob Wire

      hmm? I don’t agree with your vision of where we are at but I sure liked your question.

      “will we demand assimilation, and protect the foundation of our country by keeping immigrants as minority, Americans:majority? Will we have what it takes to insist on control of our own country and borders?”

      or part of it anyway;
      “will we demand assimilation” my answer is Hell Yea we do! and if you don’t, you need to go somewhere else.

      • Vigilant

        Bob Wire,

        This is one of those rare instances when we see eye-to-eye.

        The phrase “keeping immigrants as minority, Americans:majority?” is a very troubling expression of bigotry if I’ve ever seen one. For a country built on immigration and subsequent assimilation, the phrase has no real meaning whatsoever.

        • Agent Orange

          The problem is, not all immigrants are capable of assimilating — some (like those from the middle east) are incapable of ever comprehending or appreciating our culture of democracy and personal freedom, and will instead do anything they can to weaken and subvert it from within. Those are the ones that MUST be kept OUT of our country at any cost.

          • Vigilant


            You have no argument from me on that. Further, I would say that the portion of any naturalized immigrant population that seeks to subvert our freedoms and form of government should have their citizenship revoked and put on the first boat outta here!

          • Bob Wire

            As I understand it to be, your conclusion is a sound and just one.

  • Jim

    Demican…Republicrat….What’s the Difference? These are two parties where the likes of you beer swilling Blue Collars won’t be invited. The Tea Partiers won’t make a D!@#$d bit of difference either. The only good thing about this Tuesday is the fact that we’re one foot closer to the bottom. Then we’ll have nowhere to go but up. Back Knaves. Get the tither least I smite the with my quarter staff.

    • Bob Wire

      I don’t think a Blue Collar dominate here Jim. ~ Maybe retired blue collar and a few scattered about.

      I could be wrong?

    • JC

      Now is when we start to turn things around. More than our arguments as conservatives can do…events are starting to spell things out for the left and centre left. They’re seeing the results of too much government, too much spending, too much political correctness destroying our values.
      Don’t give up yet Jim.
      We have to slow this thing down before we can turn it around.

  • BigBadJohn

    Funny how the more we change the more we remain the same…

    Who’s Next (1971)
    Won’t Get Fooled Again

    We’ll be fighting in the streets
    With our children at our feet
    And the morals that they worship will be gone
    And the men who spurred us on
    Sit in judgement of our own
    They decide and the shotgun sings the song

    I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
    We don’t get fooled again

    The change, it had to come
    We knew it all along
    We were liberated from the fold, that’s all
    And the world looks just the same
    And history ain’t changed
    ‘Cause the banners, are flown in the next war

    I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
    We don’t get fooled again
    No, no!

    I’ll move myself and my family aside
    If we happen to be left half alive
    I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky
    Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
    Do ya?

    There’s nothing in the streets
    Looks any different to me
    And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
    And the parting on the left
    Are now parting on the right
    And the beards have all grown longer overnight

    I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
    Take a bow for the new revolution
    Smile and grin at the change all around
    Pick up my guitar and play
    Just like yesterday
    Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
    We don’t get fooled again
    Don’t get fooled again
    No, no!


    Meet the new boss
    Same as the old boss

  • joe_k

    Mr. Livingston.

    You said: Republican Congress intends to continue abdicating its responsibility by allowing the military invasion of the Middle East to continue — and even plans to expand it by strengthening sanctions against Iran.

    I gotta ask…. Is Al Gore ghost writing for you?

    What gets me most about that statement is “military invasion”. Sure sounds like Al Gore, or John Kerry, or Hillary Clinton, or Harry Ried, or Al Sharpton, or to me.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Well Joe since I am presuming that you support these wars, can you tell me three things;
      1-Did Congress declare war as required by the Constitution
      2-Have you Volunteered to assist or work over there to support the war?
      3-Do you believe the Constitution is the law of the USA?

      Before Beating Bob up, perhaps you should know the facts.

      • joe_k

        1: I never “support war” but I do believe in doing what must be done. We did not “Invade” Iraq, nor Afghanistan. If our politician would have just hung together instead of all the naysayers tying our hands, it could have been over by now (well, most of it, any way.)

        Do a little research on youtube. Look up “democrats, wmds” and see for yourself the things they were declaring about Saddams weapons programs BEFORE George Bush ever ran for president. Compare it with the things they said AFTER he took the very actions they were saying MUST be taken before he got in office.

        2: My father died during the Vietnam war. Although I never saw action in Vietnam, I enlisted voluntarily in 1970. Never thought about avoiding the draft. At 18, I figured it was better to die on foreign soil than head to Canada and never be able to return to the states, or to return in shame if I did.

        My old brother enlisted after I did, and my older sister enlisted after he did. My younger sister married a Navy man and is still married to him, though he is retired.

        My son has already served two tours in Iraq and is scheduled for deployment again soon.

        Yes. I have volunteered. Right now, I am to old, they wouldn’t have me.

        3. No, I do not believe the Constitution is law in the United States. I do believe it SHOULD be. Contrary to popular re-written history, we did not invade Iraq. Saddam was in violation of 17 United Nations resolutions, was in violation with the ceasefire agreement from the original gulf war where he tried to put an economic stranglehold on the entire free world by taking over the Kuwait oil fields and setting his sites on the Saudi oil fields. The fact that he used gas to kill 100,000 Kurds in Souther Iraq is an historical reality. There is much more that could be said on the subject of wmds to refute the lies told by the democrats, but it would require much to much space here,

        4: I happen to like Bob. Yes, I admit, I tweaked him a bit on this one, but generally, I am in complete agreement with him and any arguing I do here is usually on his side of the fence.

        5: Uh… the facts according to whom, exactly? After all, as has been noted, the first casualty of any war is Truth.

        • Bitter Libertarian

          the correct answer to #1 is NO. The US Constitution requires a Declaration of war be declared. Then and only then is Congress to “Appoint” the president as the Commander in Chief. See, the president is NOT in charge of our Military Until a Declaration of War and Congress Appoints the President to that Position. Thats is THE LAW.
          The UN? That stinking, corrupt Global Welfare basket has USED the USA as its Whore Police force. So no matter what the UN says, sending US Soldiers to Die for some agreement IS NOT PART of our Nations Law. The mentality that the US could not survive as an Isolationist Nation is an absolute LIE. The only reason Nations around the world want the US in the UN is so THEY dont have to send as much money or troops to die.

          The Best part of the Constitution is that Millions of others around the world can & have read it and see how we VIOLATE our own doctrine. many around the world dispise the US NOT for its freedoms, but its Hypocracy and how we the peoiple allow our elected officials entangle us into the affairs of other nations.

          There are some basic principals that should be followed as a nation;

          1-Mind your own business unless you want others minding yours.
          2-If you are so sure that you know better..set the example.
          3-A good neighbor offers help and walks away if its declined.
          4-If you cant live by your own rules, dont expect others to respect you
          5- 1000 years has taught the world that being a “do-gooder” only serves the do-er never the receiver.
          6-Giving a Nation money and food teaches dependency, not independence.
          7-There is such a thing as a natural cource of not think you know better then nature.
          8-Speak softly and carry a Real Big stick.
          9-Treat others as you want to be treated.
          10-If everything above fails and you are attacked, crush them where they stand.

  • JeffH

    eddie47d says:
    October 31, 2010 at 5:23 pm
    “Once a felon has served his or her time then the right to vote is absolutely legal.”

    Just felt it was necessary to prove fast eddie is WRONG again!

    Which States Allow Convicted Felons to Vote?

    Voting is a matter of state law. Even federal elections are governed by the laws in force in each of the individual states. Each state determines under what circumstances a convicted felon can or cannot vote. These laws vary rather significantly from one state to another

    Kentucky and Virginia prohibit convicted felons from ever voting

    • eddie47d

      We were talking about the State of Minnesota in particular. Ex-felons can vote the day they walk out of prison or the day they finish probation. Many states have similar laws so you are being petty as always. So you are only proving to yourself what an azz you can be.

      • JeffH

        fast eddiot…you’re a straight up and up liar…period!
        You said, and I quote, ““Once a felon has served his or her time then the right to vote is absolutely legal.” Stop already with the Obama squirm!

        The conversation was about the felon vote in general across the US, no specific state and you did what you always do…said something that was false without knowing the laws…so , go ahead and use your potty mouth once more. You just refuse to accept that you run your lips before your mind…big dummy!

        • libertytrain

          JeffH – I responded to his blanket statement about felons. Didn’t see Minnesota referred to anywhere.

  • eddie47d

    So what Jeff; That wasn’t the point so you proved nothing except that you are full of it as per usual!

    • JeffH

      …fast dummie, you said it so it must have been the point!

  • chuck b


    just think eddie if all convicted felons could vote, look at the voting base the democrats could pick up.

  • Bob Wire

    Well eddie, he proved you jumped ahead of yourself .

    but that’s okay ~ It happens,it’s easy to do.

    Jeff will give you something to come back on. ~ be patient.

    I don’t know how that works and don’t wish to concern myself with it at the moment. ~ but it’s not as clear cut are you suggest.

    Your privileges and rights can be amended indefinitely. The court systems varies from state to state.

  • Claire

    Tomorrow I will vote for 1 Democrat, 1 Independent, 1 Libertarian, 1 Republican, and that is what I have so far. I am still thinking about the rest.
    I am voting Democrat for the Sheriff’s position. The Republican that has had this position for 2 terms needs to be ousted.

  • Melissa

    I don’t trust the Republicans or the Democrats. What I want to see are abunch of honest, hard-working folks who believe in and OBEY the Constitution of these United States. Unconstitutional laws like the Patriot Act where the president can put declare us in a state of martial law for any “emergency” he deems fit. Don’t even get me started on that healthcare reform monstrosity. The key is nullifying these and all other laws and agencies that are unconstitutional. The IRS, The Federal Reserve and any others that go against the constitution of these United States of America need to get the boot. We’re tired of being robbed of our time, money, future, property and rights. Let’s get some folks in there who know what being a public servant is all about.

    • Karolyn

      This was on ABC World News last night:

      When Americans go to the polls Tuesday to decide the 2010 election, they’ll choose from a dazzlingly diverse group of candidates, many of whom have never run for a major political office.

      Most of the first-time candidates are running for the House of Representatives, and they come from backgrounds that include everything from restaurant kitchens to the operating room.

      In Michigan, a former hay farmer is running for the House.

      Democratic candidate Gary McDowell touts his experience in the fields in his ads, with a narrator intoning that “when you work as a hay farmer your entire life, people aren’t your voters, they’re your neighbors. “I’ve never run for Congress. I never thought I’d ever be running for Congress,” McDowell told ABC News.

      In southern California, a police officer is running for the first time, and in northern California, a candy maker is too.

      Then there’s Bobby Schilling, the owner of a Moline, Ill. pizza parlor. In addition to spinning pies in his shop, Schilling is running for office as a Republican.

      That’s just a handful of the more than 200 candidates that tomorrow, will be on the ballot for public office for the very first time.

      Surgeon Puts Down Knife to Run For Office
      Sixteen candidates running for Congress are doctors, including Dr. Larry Bucshon, an Indiana heart surgeon who was upset about health care reform legislation.

      “It really piqued my interest,” said Bucshon, a Republican. “People in medicine like myself should come forward.”

      Four of the first-time candidates for major office are former basketball or football players, and there’s even a gospel singer from Frog Jump, Tenn.

      138 of the major party candidates vying for House seats are women. 38 are Latino, and 61 are African-American, of which 14 are Republicans.

  • Viktor Leben

    It’s the night before the election and I printed out the sample ballot. It only lists two Libertarian candidates (up here in Connecticut)> I’m voting for both of them.

    The Constitution Party does not have anyone on the ballot .. I repeat , zip, zero , nada and zilch – nothing ! Unbelievable !

    If you all want good laugh about how disorganized the Constitution Party is check out this webpage’s link to the Connecticut Constitution Party ! What a Joke !

    Then click the link to the CT concerned citizens party on that webpage.

    Stupid Constitution Party can’t get their act together ….

    What the hell happen ? Have they been taken over by a bunch of Bozos ?

    So I’m checking out the Independent candidates right now.

  • Stephen Russell

    Get Organized, delete the HC bill & Cap & Tax etc.
    Then have a whole Nation Celebration Day & invite the Public in Capitol Hill @ time to Celebrate.
    Force Dem lobbyists to spend for food & wines alone.
    IE timeline for this can be May nxt year, April min???
    Show Resolve & force.



  • Agent Orange

    This raving idiot has shown that he’s absolutely out of his mind when he started complaining about how the Republicans (rightly) won’t end the “permanent, fabricated and never-ending war on terror” that was allegedly “forced upon us by the last four presidents”! In fact, the War on Terror was forced on us NOT by any American president, but by a bunch of Islamic terrorist SAVAGES who MURDERED more than THREE THOUSAND of our people on 9/11 and others before and since then; therefore, there is NO honorable way to “end” the Great War on Terror other than to WIN it DECISIVELY and BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY, just like we had won WW2 by fighting without any self-imposed “rules of engagement”, so we can also win the Great War on Terror! Really, the best way to end the War on Terror is to nuke all the terrorist nations — that will sure end the war really quick!

  • Vigilant

    ‘Twas the night before voting and all through the land,
    The Dems were all quaking and so were their lambs.

    The voting machines were all ready to go,
    And so were the felons who are in the know
    ‘bout fixin’ and kickin’ and hackin’ the ‘ware,
    And making it look like your vote was contrare.

    The dead, the illegal, the ghosts will all vote,
    And alas! They’re all Democrats in the same boat.
    The races, the close ones, will go to the Dems,
    As the skunks and the weasels come out of their dens.

    On ACORN, on Unions, on SEIU!
    Let’s take this election, who cares if it’s true?

    On Commies, on Leftists, on Statists and Reds!
    Who cares what the upshot, we live and they’re dead

    On Waters, on Boxer, Pelosi and Reid!
    With faulty machines we’ll have them all treed.

    The Nation has suffered for one hundred years,
    From the opportunistic, the blind and the sheared;
    The list of Progressives who called themselves “boss,”
    Will destroy our great Nation, to everyone’s loss.

    • Bob Wire

      what a dismal perspective to behold

      That the mind of man could be twisted so

      with thorny seeds of summers doubts

      cast into the wind by Ruppert’s hand

      to grow and dwell in the minds of men

      To what was once friends now enemies be

      and only in death, again be set free

      An Evil seeds this must truly be.

      If the Tea Party movement hasn’t anything else anything else, it has awaken us to the fact, we still are not immune to propaganda and programing that can turn citizen against citizen and 1938 Germany could be relived again.

      All it would take is for good people to do nothing.

      • Denniso

        We like to think that our country is past the times when hate and evil propoganda can actually work,but sadly as we see now, we’re not.

      • http://none Mike

        Wow Bob, You are in rare form today. I have seen several good comments from you on this thread.I may not agree with you on all things but got to give you credit when you are right. My comment still applies from the other day though, I wonder where civil discourse has gone in our country some days. I wonder some days why reasonable people cant even talk politics without a fight. I like to say show me your ideas and Ill show you mine and hammer something out that benifits both of us. That being said though I would never comprimize my core beliefs. Mike L.

  • AJMD

    The only reason most of us voted for any Republicans, was if there were no Libertarians running for that position. RINO’s have pretty well ruined the Republican party, and the country, by being nothing more than ‘Democrat Lite’.

    Until Republicans understand the Bill of Rights, and can articulately defend freedom of ALL speech, freedom to own ALL firearms, and can abandon the income tax and the ‘war on drugs’ as tools with which to manipulate the economy and ‘punish disbelievers’, they’re not worth much more than Democrats. Most of them can’t resist the urge to come out with a “proposal” or “program” to solve every crisis, even the ones created because we have too MANY “programs” that need repealed.

    • Denniso

      Like I said before…please keep running people out of your party. We’ll take the handfull of sane, intelligent ones in.

      You want ALL arms legal? What does all arms mean? Bombs,dynamite,nuclear tipped artillery shells,surface to air missiles??? If the constitution means anything to you than ‘arms’ has to mean single shot,muzzle loading guns. I’ll even let you have a single shot,muzzle loading cannon, just like our founders had. No new,modern weapon was imagined by the founders,right? Does the 2nd say anything about developing technology in weapons being constitutional for citizens to own? Didn’t think so..

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    THE ELECTED bunch this time around best not corrupt any tea party elected employes,and if the morons that have betrayed everything this nation was founded on THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS,will find out the hard way that us americans,when pushed into the corner will rip them to pieces any way we can,for theres more than one way to skin a cat,when the house is being robbed by our own elected employes.we will be keeping a very close watch on the bunch in washington,they best not harm any american,this time around and line their own pockets or their friends pockets.weve had enough,DOWN WITH THE NWO BUNCH AND REPEAL (NAFTA)AND THE UNITED NATIONS SMALL ARMS TREATY,JUST AS A START.lets just say,a show of good will to the american voter.

  • Bob Wire

    Roses are red and violets are “Blue”

    I’m voting Democrat how about you

    and maybe just one Republican

    to sweeten the stew

  • JC

    Roses are Red
    Socialism Sucks
    Vote out all the Commie F…..

    • Denniso

      Clever,stupid and typical of the worst of the rightwing idiot crowd. Sure, vote for people who reflect this lovely ‘poem’…

  • jopa

    JC; Such a beautiful poem just above yours except for the Retardican part and you come up with something so obscene.Does your mother know what kind of language you use on this site? You should be ashamed!!

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    ITS funny when i heard the statement by the president,you put the car in the ditch,(THE RHINOS)the self serving swine that we voted in,i have to agree on that one,but since the dumocrats have been in office the car is in the ditch with no tires,no motor,THANKS TO NAFTA,and has no seats (SO WE ARE ALL IN THE SAME CAR WITH NO SEATS,the point is at what point are we all going to get the message,all these ivy leauge masters of the universe caused this mess,because they all had a dream of massive riches,the only part of that dream they didnt revel to all the folks voting for them,is that the american citizen wasnt in their dream,now that the car is stripped they want the american people to rebulid it so they can go joy riding again at the cost of every voting person in this republic,these godless folks need a good trip to the wood shed and get a good spanking,and it looks like dad has come home,and man is he angry about the car,the point no more joy rides period,time to hit the road and have a great walk,(INCUMBANTS)dumocrats and rhinos,asta la vista baby.

  • Mike B

    AMEN, the article says it ALL !

  • Stan

    Bob, I haven’t read all the way through these postings yet, but wanted to say; Well commented on. The American public must not let things just go back to the other team’s corruption, that, in their short-term- gain mentality, almost brought the whole house of cards down (actually, not a bad thing; but that’s for another blog). The Republicans got greedy for all that good federal dosh, and in going into middle-class welfare mode, made themselves every bit as pernicious as the envy mob of the Left. Prof. Bill Black has pointed out how this current mortgage fraud scam is 40 times as bad as the S&L scam – that crowd is going to be let back into the goody store? Fire the lot of them, and make my day.

    A major housecleaning is necessary, and a getting back to the constitutional principles that started the American experiment in self-governance off on a solid footing – principles like limited government and personal responsibility. America didn’t start the corrupting caper of treating money like an end in itself rather than the means to an end that it started out as, but it certainly raised it to a ‘class’ level. Not. The Masters of the Universe, and THEIR Masters, need to be booted out on their ears, all these fancy-dancy ‘financial instruments’ consigned to the scrap heap, and the lot of the financial advisers and brokers that got America into this mess assigned to shining shoes for a living. It’s time to take America back – not to the ‘good old days’, but to the founding principles of the American dream. There are good men and women on both sides of the political aisle. Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country.

    There are Controllers behind a lot of this, who have systematically brought America to its knees in order to merge it into their vaunted New World Order, by eliminating the Constitution (and thus creating a centralized coup) via a declaration of Martial Law (whether by a representative of the Right or the Left; it’s the same gang of thieves at the top). But they wouldn’t have been able to pull off their scheme this far if lesser mortals hadn’t succumbed to their siren songs, and had their loyalty to the Establishment Elite so easily bought thereby. The corrupt crowd of bit players must go, wholesale, in a major pruning job, in order to have the capos on the top of the pyramid exposed. Only the valorous need apply, in THIS new order of things.

    In sum: A pox on both their houses. As vaksal says above: Hasta la vista, baby. You’ve had your day. A new team is taking the field. A team led by the likes of Madison and Washington. Not Rockefeller and Rothschild.

    • Denniso

      What abunch of baloney…the crash happened after 8 yrs of Bush rule and began under Bush,yet you in your wisdom still blame the Dems???Try to think just a little more clearly,would you?

  • http://GOGGLE vaksal

    8yrs,this mess started long ago Denniso,and the blame and shame is on every american voters heads for letting this madness go on for so long,but like the very true republic we have always been,better late than never,and its time to make this republic work as it was founded,and dump the dead horse that cant even take one step forward,the point is all that has been done for so many years,longer than 8yrs,more like 25yrs? has not payed off except to fracture this republic into warring factons,and why? you ever hear,united we stand,divided we fall,well the sad fact is we are all falling into an economic pit,where the end result will led into a totaltarism type of government,where we will all be reduced into economic poverty,denniso is this nation doing well? the answer is far as wisdom no one hear has claimed that,for it seems the educated idiots have cornered that for so many years that,that wisdom has come to total fruition,and here we all are the american people fighting like cats and dogs and for what a house that has been pilliaged for far to long,and yes we have all been fed baloney,for far too long,but in truth,what everyone,even you,have been fed horse apples far to long,and what ever happens in this election,we all must remember that massive amounts of americans lives have payed the price of all we have ever had,and that is the freedom to vote for who we wish to represent us as our elected employes,as for as parties the hell with them for i am an american first and this republic and my countrymen mean more than any anti- constitutional agenda,our votes will decide if this nation serves it voters or it serves foreign masters,and if it serves the latter it will reduce us to a colony of the NWO agenda,then we will be no more than economic slaves,too those who value us as nothing more than dirt under there feet,so please just think about it denniso,we are all suffering and going to a fate worst than death,for if it happens we will all suffer everyone.thank god for the rights the founders of this country give us,now we must honor that great burden,and that comes with a great price,demanded by all those before us.all our mothers and fathers,to protect this wonderful republic.

    • Denniso

      Republicans are the party of big business and the wealthy…those entities do view working people as not much more than slaves to keep the cars running and the toilets flushing. The Dems try to raise up working people to a level above wage slavery through good education and workers rights and livable wages. That’s why I will never vote for a Repub,even for dog catcher. It is too bad that it’s a war between the 2 sides, but just because we don’t favor that can’t mean that we give up and let corporate power control and diminish our lives.

      • Karolyn

        I’m like you Dennis. I didn’t vote for any republicans, even those with no one running against them. Here in SC we are mourning the fact that we’re saddled with another republican governor and have lost our beloved Senator Spratt.

        • Denniso

          Sorry for your loss. We lost 2 good people,but otherwise we did well.

    • bruce

      I say if you all dont want to pay any taxes lets git rid of medicare, dept of defense, the FBI, the CIA , the police departments, the fire departments, Social sceurity, the NSA, highway systems, FCC, all goverment regulations so companys can do what ever they want to even if that they want to dump toxic waste in your backyard, DEA, NTF, Health departments, the judical system, and i hope that you all get your way so the country can go down the tubes so people know what real hard times are

  • http://none JJ

    “Republicans are the party of big business and the wealthy…”
    Really, now? chauffeur-driven liberals and jet setters in government would like you to keep tinking this way. Stop and figure. The bigger, more intrusive, and controlling government gets, the smaller we the people get in their eyes. With more and more controls, there is less and less liberty. Both parties enrich themselves fabulously once in power, and are on record for doing the same things over, and over again, while we the people expect different results. Yes it’s insane!

    It was a southern governor who once said, “There is not a dimes difference between the two parties.” Read-up and you’ll be less inclined to succumb to triggers like the one in quotes above.


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