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Human Rights Group Pans U.S. For Weak Policies On Paid Parental Leave

February 25, 2011 by  

Human Rights Group Pans U.S. For Weak Policies On Paid Parental LeaveThe advocacy group Human Rights Watch has released a report that criticizes the United States for its weak or nonexistent laws on paid leave for new parents.

The study, which is called Failing its Families: Lack of Paid Leave and Work-Family Support in the U.S., is based on a series of interviews with parents throughout America. The 90-page report revealed that parents who had little or no paid family leave after childbirth or adoption faced a variety of obstacles, including postpartum depression, health problems and a delay in baby immunizations.

Furthermore, some new parents who were not granted paid leave were forced to seek public assistance, while many families fell into debt. Several women told researchers that employer bias against working mothers derailed their careers.

"The U.S. is actually missing out by failing to ensure that all workers have access to paid family leave," said Janet Walsh, deputy women's rights director at Human Rights Watch. "Countries that have these programs show productivity gains, reduced turnover costs, and healthcare savings."

The report states that more than 178 counties have national laws guaranteeing paid leave for new mothers. America, Swaziland and Papua New Guinea were among a handful of exceptions. 

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  • s c

    Well, sisboombah, rah rah rah and BFD. What we need to do is to UNIONIZE. There’s the ticket. All our problems will disappear if we belong to a WORLD UNION. We could join at birth, and as we get older we can get initiated, grab a membership card and blah blah blah.
    Human Rights Watch, piss off. ‘Rights’ fanatics, take a hike. Social justice quacks, guzzle some hemlock. Utopians, go #^&* yourselves.
    Is there ANYTHING left in this life that hasn’t been screwed-up by people whose sole purpose for living is to get others to STOP thinking? Are the retards at Human Rights Watch on drugs?
    I’ll try whatever you putzes are smoking, but after that, get lost you miserable SOBs. Take your act on the road. Take Bloomberg with you. He seems to be a ‘rights’ addict and he’s even been pre-programmed.

    • Vigilant

      “The U.S. is actually missing out by failing to ensure that all workers have access to paid family leave,” said Janet Walsh, deputy women’s rights director at Human Rights Watch. “Countries that have these programs show productivity gains, reduced turnover costs, and healthcare savings.”

      Consider the following from http://www.hrw.org/en/bios/janet-walsh

      ” Before joining Human Rights Watch, Walsh practiced law at the United Nations legal office in New York, several international law firms, and did pro bono work in domestic violence, political asylum, and refugee law. Walsh graduated from the Boalt Hall School of Law at University of California, Berkeley.”

      Berkely and the UN. That should tell you all you need to know about this socialist.

    • JC

      I share the sentiment sc…
      You have the right to life, and the right to defend it…that’s it.

  • Caroline Strasser

    s c for President!

  • Mick

    s c says:
    February 25, 2011 at 5:33 am
    Well, sisboombah, rah rah rah and BFD. What we need to do is to UNIONIZE. There’s the ticket. All our problems will disappear if we belong to a WORLD UNION. We could join at birth, and as we get older we can get initiated, grab a membership card and blah blah blah.
    Human Rights Watch, piss off. ‘Rights’ fanatics, take a hike. Social justice quacks, guzzle some hemlock. Utopians, go #^&* yourselves.
    Is there ANYTHING left in this life that hasn’t been screwed-up by people whose sole purpose for living is to get others to STOP thinking? Are the retards at Human Rights Watch on drugs?
    I’ll try whatever you putzes are smoking, but after that, get lost you miserable SOBs. Take your act on the road. Take Bloomberg with you. He seems to be a ‘rights’ addict and he’s even been pre-programmed.
    ****************************

    Ohhhhh!!! sc,,, As Caroline just said…sc for President !! We definitely need to eliminate some of those organizations, we’re sufficating here .

    • Mick

      Not a good start for me this morning… Duh,,,,it’s Suffocating,,,,,,

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Mick,
        don’t worry, friend, I got what you meant!!!

  • http://www.diyyardandhome.com Dan

    Lord, what has become of responsible parenting. Adults knowing whether they can or can not afford kids. Knowing they may have to take unpaid leave and planning for it in advance? Well all that is mote now with the economy the way it is and getting worse. So let’s force companies to provide paid leave and have them not hire more people.

    • FlaJim

      ‘Responsibility’ is a BAD word, particularly if you’re referring to personal responsiblity. We all know by now that ‘it takes a village’ to raise a child and if that requires a little hardship for employers and coworkers or taxpayers in general, why that’s what society is all about!

      Paid parental leave is now a ‘human right’? Good God.

  • Wandamurline

    Right, we all need to be paid by Mr. and Mrs. Taxpayer when we have a child…both mom and dad can stay home with the little one. Grow up…this is just one of millions of unsustainable entitlements that Mr. and Mrs. Taxpayer can no longer afford. When I had my children, I was self-employed for the first one and the baby and I went out to work with dad…the second one, I had problems and took off for about two months, but my health insurance paid for that….the taxpayers did not. More ridiculous entitlements…if you read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights….no where in it does it say you have the right to own a house, have health insurance, have a car, have a cell phone, have a paid vacation, get paid while you sit on your butt…..it does, however, state that you have the right to pursue these things. It is time to go back to basics.

    • http://www.diyyardandhome.com Dan

      Now we all know the constitution is out of date and old fashioned and doesn’t really apply any more. At least that is what I understand congress and the President sees it.

      • Mick

        Dan says:
        February 25, 2011 at 7:40 am
        Now we all know the constitution is out of date and old fashioned and doesn’t really apply any more. At least that is what I understand congress and the President sees it.
        ****************************************
        Dan,,,,,,,,,,,,The Constitution may be old fashioned but it sure made our country work.
        Can you say the same thing about the way the new version is working for America ??

        • Macawma

          Uh, Mick, go get your cup of coffee and wake up. Dan was being facetious…

          • Mick

            Macawma says:
            February 25, 2011 at 7:53 am
            Uh, Mick, go get your cup of coffee and wake up. Dan was being facetious****************

            ***********************
            Macawma….You’re absolutely right , as I said on my first post,,Not a start for me this morning,,,,,Sorry Dan………….

          • http://www.diyyardandhome.com Dan

            No problem. The lack of coffee on my part makes me hard to live with according to my wife. She’ll bring me a cup of coffee and then hide till I drink it. You are right, our constitution sure isn’t working now when a President can totally ignore it and declare a law unconstitutional to appease his socialist base. Next thing we know he will declare coffee unconstitutional because his old lady says it isn’t healthy.

  • Forrest

    Why should non-workers be paid? What value are they adding to their employers when they are gone?

    I support stay-with-the-children parenting; after all, it is the Original Plan.

    Did Human Rights Watch even consider how fortunate parents are to (1) have a job, (2) be able to financially support children, and (3) be allowed time away too?

    • eddie47d

      The company I worked for offered paid maternity leave (6 weeks) and my insurance covered all 3 births. My wife’s company also offered the same benefit and that was a blessing. I thought Conservatives valued time with their children and would encourage family leave. As more and more families are left without insurance and fewer companies are offering benefits we can all see where this is leading to. The family values Parties are loosing their luster and certainly aren’t any more moral than the groups they attack.

      • Dale on the left coast

        Conservatives I know that value family . . . stay home and raise their kids . . . what a strange concept!!!

      • JC

        Notice eddie attacks conservative family values, but defends his own unionized / socialist values…as long as someone else is paying for it I guess eddie and Mrs. eddie can stay home and raise kids their whole lives…oh wait a minute! That’s welfare isn’t it?
        And same thing…who pays for that?

        eddie unlike you, we conservatives have to0 somehow combine our family values with the ability to support our families…without Big Brother to pay for it.

        And that is one of the fundamental differences between Americans and Socialists. Responsibility for our actions.

  • Devasahayam

    Receiving a panning from Human Rights Watch (I remember that in 1999 it made much shill against then TX-governor Jorge Bush Jr about the impending execution of Stanley Faulder, a Canadian convicted in Texas for murder) is like receiving a loud-hailer insult in public from the town drunk!

    Specifics of Faulder Case:
    (1) HRW claimed he was denied “consular representation”–but failed to mention that Faulder was quite uncooperative with police in this matter (in fact he only revealed his citizenship after his last appeal was denied); given that Canadian accents differ only marginally from American, did HRW expect a TX cop to figure out only by few-seconds speech that Faulder was from Saskatchewan (Canadian Province) rather than Nebraska (the ID he showed at arrest were a NE driving-licence and SSN-card)?
    (2) Faulder was found unquestionably guilty of the murder–and wasn’t innocent.

  • tim

    Why not they just quit and let someone else fill thier position. Idiots are always trying to find a way to pay somebody for not working. Do they really think the little ma and pa shops around the country can afford to pay someone for not working. This country is built on small businesses. What don’t these quacks understand about money besides thier own greed???

  • bob wire

    Appears that horses display better social instincts.

    Considering stay home mother’s are becoming a thing of the past by necessity as the working classes slip and slid it’s way down into the ranks of the working poor make it a consideration worthy of a mindfully mature population.

    It is not an issue that I shall ever be confronted with at 62 so why should I care? Right? I like young chicks but lets get serious here! They run too fast!

    Having been raised in the final days when we picked cotton by hand and children rode their father cotton sack or stayed in under the shade of the Cotton wagon. What was good enough then is good enough now, ~ Right?

    • barbm

      we helped pick it until there was a huge pile in the barn, then we’d take turns jumping off the top floor into the cotton. if you’ve never seen a cotton bag, it’s about 10′ long kind of like a really long duffel bag. ahhh, memories. and, as i recall, momma took a few days off after baby sis was born then went back to the cotton fields. i had 2 and only took off a few days work.

    • bob wire

      LOL! well everything is bigger when looking though a child’s eyes but Father sack was a good 20ft long as I remember it. When it got stuffed with enough cotton to make a comfortable spot, I ride it, sometime picking the hard low bowels dad would missed as my small baby fingers could easily pick or I’d just snooze if it wasn’t too hot into the day.

      The cotton rows were so long it wasn’t unusual to be unable see the beginning or end of a single row so there was time to snooze and mom and dad would pick two rows side by side, talking and laughing along the way.

      They had given me a 100 lb. potato sack that severed as my cotton sack. My heaviest single pick being 42 pounds. I must have been pride of myself to still remember it. The Mill Master always paid me in shinny new pennies and few dimes which I kept in a Mason jar with slot cut in the lid.

      Sweet memories as unpleasant as they might have been as the time. It sure got hot in the fields and you learn to appreciate every cloud in the sky.

      I can’t help but feel the notion of “Conservative” has lost it’s meaning along the way somewhere.

      • barbm

        “Sweet memories as unpleasant as they might have been as the time. It sure got hot in the fields and you learn to appreciate every cloud in the sky.”

        i don’t recall it being unpleasant. we didn’t have anything to compare it to. if we needed corn, we’d pick it from the field, bacon -kill a hog. we never were hungry. we looked forward to going to jackson, ms to visit my other grandparents who lived near sears. SEARS HAD AIR CONDITIONERS!!! we had no tv, so we played outside and used our imaginations. we were so poor, i carried around a block of firewood wrapped in a piece of fabric for my doll. we had no heaters, just had a pot bellied stove in the living room and my grandmother’s wood burning cook stove in the kitchen. we had so many quilts on us at night, we had to get comfy before being covered because we couldn’t move once they were in place. and when it stormed, momma and mamaw would wrap the kids in blankets and head for the barn because it was newer and stronger than the house. all great and happy memories for me. like i said, we had nothing else to compare it to.

        • libertytrain

          Beautifully said barbm. We didn’t know we were missing anything and took such joy in things like an occasional air-conditioned building. It might have been hard work but if you didn’t know anything different, was it all that hard? I don’t recall sitting around saying “if only I had xyz” – we were too busy to think about silly stuff like that.

        • bob wire

          Ha Ha ! so true! It was only in hindsight I might think of it as unpleasant, at the time we were feeling sad for the poor people that didn’t have what we enjoyed!

          As for myself, I lived a life of Opie in Maybury, where kids were fed and water and put out for the day and threatened with a green peach tree limb if we came back into the house not bleeding or a big knot on our head.

          Every child should be so lucky to have such a childhood where no doors were locked, every grownup a parent and bedtime was 9 pm.

  • Robert Morrow

    I did not realize the employer is responsible for a women becoming Pregnant. I away thought that this was between a man and women. They had the fun and now they have to take up the responsibility for what happened not the employer. So this goes along with the Nanny State that employees have all these right and the right to do minimum work, hate the employer who makes the job and pays them. I had a business and worked 10 to 12 hours everyday to keep the business going and profits enough to hire someone. All I found was totally uneducated idiots who could barely read, write, accomplish simple math. Yet they had demands of high pay and all kinds of other things. That was not the only thing, then I had to pay big money to the Government just to hire these Idiot. At the end I quit and joined the Parasites for if one tries, works hard to create something he or she is to be punished by the Government and other deadbeats. I quit.

    • JC

      You want to see the nanny state in action? Take a look at Ireland.
      Those people have had what was a rebounding economy taken away from them by their governments tax and spend policies until there are no jobs left to be had. 1000 people a “week” are emmigrating from Ireland and the ones who can’t get out are getting pregnant so they can qualify for government housing. They are completely under control.
      God forbid we let that crap happen here.

  • Ted Crawford

    Back in the late 60s’& early 70s’, when I heard the term “Human Rights Group” I thought of them as good for our country. As I matured and became more involved I soon began to see their faults. At first I believed thet they were honest mistakes, then I became aware of people like Saul alinsky, Francis Piven, Richard Cloward, and many others. It became crystal clear that the end game of these people, with the help of an army of “useful idiots”, was to discredit and overburden our system to bring about a socialist reveloution.
    I believe that we need to defund these groups and re-invigorate the old method for dealing with our needy. The local churches and population need to come together to provide whatever assistance is needed at the local level. This is a much more efficient answer!

    • libertytrain

      Nicely said -

    • eddie47d

      Ted; As Churches loose membership and youth attend less and less who are these fine folks who will pick up the slack (charity work)?Church’s may be a noble gesture and they still do help out but few have the resources anymore. Conservatives love telling their “kids” to have more grandkids. They try to make them feel guilty if they don’t. Those same Conservatives are the ones who fought birth control methods. (must be the control issue).They also attack Planned Parenthood as evil and say women must have kids whether they like it or not. So if you are really concerned Bobber instead of making the choices of women for them we may not have this problem.

      • barbm

        i’m a conservative and have never fought birth control methods. where did you get that from, eddie? i don’t believe abortion should be used for birth control though. you don’t want kids, don’t have sex and, if you do, use birth control. if you screw up, live with it so that your child can do the same. what are we teaching our children about the value of human life when we are so ready to kill our unborn? if a child can’t count on its mother to love and protect it, whom can it count on? fathers love their children, but a mother’s love knows no bounds – make that SHOULD know no bounds. if you want to kill a child, take your selfish butt to some back alley and take your chances. and those of you who have killed a baby, you better have some real good arguments ready when you meet your maker. THOU SHALT NOT KILL. wonder if He’ll think there are any good arguments for that.

        • eddie47d

          The Catholic Church and some Baptist denominations railed against birth control for decades. Some citizens still rail against condoms so that is where “I got the idea”. A State Senator in Utah wanted to pass a bill requiring all women to report to the police if they don’t have a normal menstrual cycle.That way they could tell who is getting pregnant and in 8 or 9 months the State will check birth records against those women. If you didn’t give birth then you must have a reason why not. He said this is a way to check on who had an abortion or not. This conservatives bill was voted down but shows how intrusive they want to be. South Dakota tried to pass a law in January that would legally state that any citizen would have the right to kill an abortion doctor and receive no punishment. Nebraska is now considering the same. Some Conservatives/anti-abortion groups even wanted to charge any women for any reason with murder if she has an abortion. Conservatives quite often say Liberals want to involve themselves in peoples personal lives(telling people what to do) yet I see it far more from the other side.

          • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

            eddie47d,

            You are right.It comes more from the religious nutty right, than the left.Religions are also another form of fascism and mind control.

          • Dale on the left coast

            You found a couple of nuts . . . but the left and the uber-left have 100 years of mind-bending nanny-state nonsense to reference. And coal-minor . . . fascists were left-wing socilists, very close to Stalin and Mao . . . not unlike the dimmicrap party today.

          • eddie47d

            Fascists were on the right just like the Nazi’s. Commies were on the left.

          • Vigilant

            eddie, how many times do we need to tell you that is was called “National SOCIALISM” for a reason? How many times do we need to refer you to the platform of the NAZI Party?

            And how many times to get through your skull that communsim and fascism are birds of a feather? They’re not left-right, they’re both BIG GOVERNMENT in charge of the store.

            That’s a paltry atempt to associate conservatism with the NAZIs just because you say they are on “the right.” And for whom do you keep repeating this nonsense? Are you trying to attract new posters to your way of thinking? The rest of us see you as akin to Eric Bischoff, Clarence Swinney and other dupes who persist in their fantasy and the canards of the left no matter how much backup factual data we give you.

          • Vigilant

            eddie says, “Conservatives quite often say Liberals want to involve themselves in peoples personal lives (telling people what to do) yet I see it far more from the other side.”

            Yes, you’re right, unborn children have absolutely no say in whether they will be allowed to partake in that most valuable of all freedoms and rights: LIFE. You want to call that interference in people’s lives, so be it. But that makes you less than a human being.

          • bob wire

            The unborn is exactly as you say, people yet to exist. ~

            I suppose you wish to give a voice to these non existent?

            How clever! If you could , what might they say? ~ Liberal suck?

          • JC

            eddie47d says:
            February 25, 2011 at 7:23 pm
            Fascists were on the right just like the Nazi’s. Commies were on the left.

            _____________________________________________________________

            My God but you are confused…

            maybe you’ll read it this time:

            Fascism is, put briefly, a system of social organization in which the political state is a dictatorship supported by a political elite and in which the economic society is an autarchic capitalism, enclosed and planned, in which the government assumes responsibility for creating adequate purchasing power through the instrumentality of national debt and in which militarism is adopted as a great economic project for creating work as well as a great romantic project in the service of the imperialist state.
            Broken down, it includes these devices:
            1. A government whose powers are unrestrained.
            2. A leader who is a dictator, absolute in power but responsible to the party which is a preferred elite.
            3. An economic system in which production and distribution are carried on by private owners but in accordance with plans made by the state directly or under its immediate supervision.
            4. These plans involve control of all the instruments of production and distribution through great government bureaus which have the power to make regulations or directives with the force of law.
            5. They involve also the comprehensive integration of government and private finances, under which investment is directed and regimented by the government, so that while ownership is private and production is carried on by private owners there is a type of socialization of investment, of the financial aspects of production. By this means the state, which by law and by regulation can exercise a powerful control over industry, can enormously expand and complete that control by assuming the role of banker and partner.
            6. They involve also the device of creating streams of purchasing power by federal government borrowing and spending as a permanent institution.
            7. As a necessary consequence of all this, militarism becomes an inevitable part of the system since it provides the easiest means of draining great numbers annually from the labor market and of creating a tremendous industry for the production of arms for defense, which industry is supported wholly by government borrowing and spending.
            8. Imperialism becomes an essential element of such a system where that is possible — particularly in the strong states, since the whole fascist system, despite its promises of abundance, necessitates great financial and personal sacrifices, which people cannot be induced to make in the interest of the ordinary objectives of civil life and which they will submit to only when they are presented with some national crusade or adventure on the heroic model touching deeply the springs of chauvinistic pride, interest, and feeling.
            Where these elements are found, there is fascism, by whatever name the system is called.

            _________________________________________________________________

            Where it comes to being an American eddie…Fascism, Socialism and Communism are a cancer. Trying to seperate them as somehow being different from each other is a lot like masturbation…

            So you keep on…doing whatever it is you’re doing, just keep your disgusting stupidity to yourself please.

          • barbm

            “Some citizens still rail against condoms so that is where “I got the idea”.” i think you’re confusing people who don’t want condoms handed out to school kids with ones who don’t want them used for birth control. i don’t know of any religion that has a rule against holding an aspirin betweeen your knees. and my mom managed to not have another baby for almost 5 years using the rhythm method back in the 40s and 50s which is also not against any religious doctrine. my southern baptist grandparents had no problem with it since we couldn’t afford another mouth to feed. no birth control back then, yet mom managed to only have 2 children.

            gee, kill a child then ask for a murder charge. wonder where anybody could get an idea like that. what about the rights of the child? if you don’t want babies, quit having sex or use birth control. abortion should NEVER be used for birth control. i wish everybody who has an abortion could no longer have children. if you have that much respect for human life, you don’t deserve them.

          • Vigilant

            bob wire, unbelievably, says,

            “The unborn is exactly as you say, people yet to exist. ~

            I suppose you wish to give a voice to these non existent?

            How clever! If you could , what might they say? ~ Liberal suck?”

            How absolutely crass and insensitive. No, bob, you got it wrong again.

            A human life, whether that foetus turns out to be an Einstein or a Hitler, a Republican or Democrat, a communist or anarchist, deserves the right to reach its full potential.

            Using your fallacious argument, you would, given the skills of a superscientist, snuff out the life of those you don’t agree with you and preserve those that would.

            For all the times I see you go on poetic flights of fancy with your stream of consciousness “thoughts,” I charge you with not having one bone of a poet’s soul in you. Without a deep and abiding respect for human life in all its forms, your sentiments are as empty as a bell without a clapper, and as bankrupt as our country.

  • Bobber

    If you can’t afford to have children without being subsidized in some way, don’t have children. Here is a tip – If a liberal controlled “human rights” organization is for something, we should be against it. These “Human Rights” organizations are nothing more than liberal front groups.

    • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

      Vigilant,

      Wrong,you better go back to school.The word National Socialist is misleading.Nazis are extremely Nationalistic and embrace capitalism.They called communism and socialism a jewish invention.Read the Mein kampf, Eddie is right,you are wrong.According to the FBI,The Nazi Party,KKK and The fascist Party are Right wing organsations,not left wing.

      http://www.publiceye.org/eyes/whatfasc.html

      • Vigilant

        “I’D better go back to school?” Coal minor, judging from your mind-fog, I wonder if you ever attended school at all in your pitiful life.

        The key was, firstly, your citing a URL from a progressive website. Did you read the title? “Researching the right for progressive changemakers.” No bias at all, huh?

        Secondly, I’ll lay odds you never read ANY of the NAZI Party platforms. If you had, you’d see the last thing they were was pro-capitalism.

        Wikipedia:

        “Nazi ideology stressed the failures of laissez-faire capitalism, communism, economic liberalism, and democracy; supported the “racial purity of the German people” and that of other Northwestern Europeans; and claimed itself as the protector of Germany from Jewish influence and corruption.”

        A relevant posting from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2320058/posts says, “Take a look at the National socialist party platform, 1920 and you will see the obvious. Many of you will be incapable of doing the following: blind yourself all references to ‘the jews’ as you read this and it indeed does look very similar to what we see from one of america’s prominent ideologies today. It doesn’t sound like conservatives. How many times do you see references to ‘the state’?(And power to the state, etc)(directly or indirectly) The state needed to provide jobs, redistribute wealth, attack the rich, and other things. How about hogwash about equality? Yep, the nazis wanted that too. Don’t miss the part about nationalization.”

        A major trouble with you liberals is that you’re generally too lazy or too close-minded to look at original source material. Instead, you rely on what some biased revisionist historian has to say and take it as gospel truth.

        If there’s any gray matter left in that coal-dust packed skull of yours, GO TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL!

        • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

          Vigilant,

          You prove my point,your ignorance is amazing.You can’t tell the difference communism and fascism. Many Germans read Thus Spoke Zarathustra and during the 1930s, Nietzsche became a darling of right wing politicians and Nietzscheism came to be absolutely endemic in the ‘master race’ concept of the Nazis. Aspects of Nietzsche’s thought were embraced by the Nazis and the Italian Fascists, partly due to the encouragement of his sister, Elisabeth Förster-Nietzsche through her connections with Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini. It proved possible for the Nazi interpreters to assemble, albeit quite selectively, certain passages from Nietzsche’s writings which could be employed to justify war, aggression and domination for the sake of nationalistic and even racial self-glorification.Do a little reading,less talking,you may learn something.

          • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

            I left out between.

          • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

            Frierich Niettzshe,

            Father of modern right wing philosophy.

          • Vigilant

            Yeah, you left out something else as well: an answer to my facts.

            Instead of referring to source material or trying to take my argument apart piece by piece, you do the Saul Alinsky end run and change the subject.

            OK, let’s do this one more time: “Nazi ideology stressed the failures of laissez-faire capitalism, communism, economic liberalism, and democracy.” If you, the FBI or anyone else wants to call that “right wing,” have at it, but if you do, you’ve got to explain the logical outcome of that argument to propose that today’s right wingers are AGAINST capitalism and democracy. If you can’t see the logical fallacy of your argument, then you are indeed beyond help.

            And for your information, communism and fascism are MUCH closer aligned in their methods than they are different. They are BOTH statist philosophies that would deny the individual freedoms guaranteed by the Declaration of Independence and Constitution.

            Your arguments are so typical of the left. You attempt, and miserably fail every time, to associate modern conservatism with the NAZIs. NO conservative subscribes to the NAZI philosophy, never has and never will. To the conservative, the KKK and Neo-Nazis are in the same bed as any leftist organization or political party that would have us relinquish our God-given rights to a dictatorial power.

            You know who else’s thoughts were embraced by the NAZIs? Try Margaret Sanger and her advocacy of eugenics (I’m sure you don’t know the meaning o0f the word, go look it up). Yes, the mother of Planned Parenthood, the abortion-on-demand folks. You going to tell me they are right wing too? Her philosophies were very assiduously followed by the NAZIs in their drive to wipe “undesriables” off the face of the earth.

            No, sonny, YOUR ignorance is amazing. And I’ve read Nietzsche, as well as the NAZI Party platforms of the times. I doubt you have, and most likely haven’t, since you sidestepped the question before.

          • Vigilant

            coal miner,

            You need to read JC’s very perspicacious posting above before you spout off again about the falsehood that fascism and modern right wing philosophy are related.

            You might also want to clue us in on how conservatives believe in big government and the denial of individual rights. If you can “prove” that one, then you belong in a mental institution.

      • Vigilant

        coal miner jokes, of course, when he says, “The word National Socialist is misleading.”

        Yes, and so is “Democratic Party.” The socialists have hijacked that great cause of anti-Federalists like Thomas Jefferson and contorted it to espouse the very opposite of democratic process. The DINOs (and that covers most of them) are no more committed to the ideals of our republic than I am interested in listening to their propaganda.

        • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

          Vigilant.

          Ask the FBI.The modern extreme rightwingers are more nuttier than the old rightwing fascist demagogs.You said I didn’t read any of Friedrich Nietzache’s books,some I did,others I didn’t.

          Here are the some of the books I have read:

          1: The Birth Of Tragedy

          2:Thus spoke Zarathustra

          3:Beyond Good and Evil

          4: All too Human

          5: Anti-Christ

  • Dennis

    This is just another recommendation for more government control. Paid leave for pregnancy assumes the employer has a bottomless pit of money available for any cause the government deems worthy. In this case the employer is supposed to pay someone weeks or months of leave while getting no work from the employee. It’s just a proposal for another tax on business by an out of control government. No wonder our businesses are having problems hiring people.

  • Marilee

    Can’t afford or take care of your children then don’t have them.Whats next? provide breast milk too.Tired of these groups and their gimme,gimmee attitudes and screw all others.Go live in Europe!

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner
  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner
  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    Force majeure leave.

    Force majeure is a legal term which means that some important and critical event has occurred, as a result, releasing the person directly affected from his or her legal obligations in a particular matter that would otherwise have applied.

    It entitles an employee to a number of paid days leave, in order to deal with a family emergency arising from an unforeseen injury to or illness of an immediate family member, which requires the employee’s immediate presence at their side.

    Under Force majeure leave, the employee is entitled to paid leave for up to three days in any 12-month period or five days in any period of 36 consecutive months.

    Bereavement excluded

    Force majeure leave specifically excludes bereavements – currently there is no statutory entitlement to paid time off resulting from a family bereavement. (However many companies would have a policy granting some leave in this regard.)

    The immediate family members of the employee covered for the purposes of Force majeure leave are:

    -A child of the employee, including adopted children.

    -A spouse or person with whom the employee is living as a husband or wife.

    -A person to whom the employee is in loco parentis (a guardian).

    -A brother or sister of the employee.

    -A parent or grandparent of the employee.

    The scope of the act does not extend beyond the immediate family, e.g. to the mother-in-law.

    There is no service requirement for an employee to take Force

  • bob wire

    God forbid, anyone be offer “incentives” to consider one employer over another. ~

    If a certain employer desires certain women of child bearing age, what a novel approach to entice and create such a labor force.

    While the old dried up and barren may scoff at the notion. ~ Maybe a certain employer don’t really want your old ass around. ~ You ever consider that as a possibility? ~ I kind of doubt it ~ as it seems that so many of you consider yourself the “center of the universe”

    Exactly how did it come about, ~ that you “became” the center of the universe?

    All this “don’t work, don’t pay” ~ fear of someone maybe getting something not “deserved” really doesn’t sound like stable, well adjusted people to me.

    It’s up to employers and the labor force what any benefit package might be on the table. The employer has the final word as to what is possible and the perspective employee is looking for equity for their commitment and efforts.

    This is simply a process of accepting dominion or not accepting dominion.

    If I were a young married woman with hopes of both a family and of earning a wage, pursuing a particular career that I had invested and educated myself in. ~ Why can I not be allowed both? If I was an employer and wanted a dedicated and skilled labor force, It’s my job to search the market and develop it as I choose.

    It’s not up to you or and one else to tell me what I can’t offer as a benefit package as I shape my labor force.

    I might desire hiring little people! I might desire hiring big people!

    I might desire hiring only very attractive people with flaring personalities.

    I have my “reasons” ~ you don’t have to agree or like them ~

    Feel free to make yourself gone.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      bob,
      “it’s not up to you or and one else as to what I offer for a benefit package” Remember that the next time some manager gets offered a million dollar package!! Remember how you b!tched about that????

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