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Human Rights Activists Call For Judicial Boycott As Report Clears Bush Officials Of Misconduct

March 3, 2010 by  

Human rights activists call for judicial boycott as report clears Bush officials of misconduct The Department of Justice (DOJ) has found that Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Jay Bybee, then working as a DOJ lawyer, exercised "poor judgment" when he prepared legal memos regarding the use of torture on detainees in United States custody. Although the document failed to recommend disbarment, it has fueled an independent and long-running campaign to have Bybee disbarred.

At the forefront of the push is the organization called DisbarTortureLawyers.com, which last year filed a disciplinary complaint against Judge Bybee seeking his disbarment in Washington, DC. After the DOJ announcement, it has vowed to supplement that complaint with the new report.

"Until [he] resigns or is removed from the bench, we call on all lawyers of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to file motions to disqualify Judge Bybee, should he be assigned to their cases, on the basis of these official findings of poor judgment," said attorney and campaign spokesperson Kevin Zeese.

DisbarTortureLawyers has also promised to work with jurisdictions outside the U.S. to indict other top Bush administration lawyers, including John Yoo, David Addington, William Haynes, Alberto Gonzales and Stephen Bradbury, as well as former Vice President Dick Cheney, for violating the UN Convention Against Torture.

But the idea is strongly opposed by many Republicans, such as Representative Lamar Smith of Texas, who sits on the House Judiciary Committee, who said that "it is important that future government lawyers know that their efforts to protect Americans will not be criminalized by future administrations," quoted by CNN.
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  • JeffH

    Maybe, just maybe the Disbar Torture Lawyers should be tortured and disbarred.

    • usmadgirl

      JeffH,

      What goes around, comes around!

    • William Nealey

      not maybe. they deffinately should be dissbarred and totured the same way Daniel pearl was, those scumbags are clearley on the side of the terrorists and not ours,

    • RivahMitch

      This ‘Nam jarhead would like to read that Zeese and his cronies have been found in a gutter bled out. I’ve little use for GWB but far less for those who coddle scum.

      • Michael J.

        RivahMitch,
        Contact Andy Stern and request some of his SEIU thugs. They can easily handle the scenario you described.

        • RivahMitch

          Whatever you say, pussycat…

  • freedomman

    Waterboard Bush and Cheney until they tell the truth about 9-11!

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      freedomman – The truth is out there and I do believe in the Conspiracy theory. Do some research on the Alaskan HARP project. Some interesting information about who invented the reason for starting an illegal war based on pure lies and many future dangers yet to be seen by all the citizens.

      • herman richardson

        YOU GO DEE D PAY ATTENTION OR PAY THE PRICE, YOUR CALL FOLKS.

  • William Nealey

    freedomman you sound just like an obama democrat, get a life if you possibly can,

    • Tazio2013

      freedomman expresses the truth and you respond with an over used, silly cliche. Maybe you should get a brain and new vocabulary?

  • Disgusted

    This entire issue is just madening. I don’t consider the “torture tactics” our military is using as wrong. These people were/are terrorists and they should be treated as such. If these people want to see torture I say let them re-watch the beheading of one of our journalists, Daniel Pearl in pakistan by people who really know how to torture. How about you ask my grandfather, a POW who knows first hand what real torture is, how he feels about it – a man who earned a silver star for his service and dedication to this great country.

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    Don’t you just love it! They’re after another, this time Fascist (same really as Communist)Bush, while the current administration is committing open acts of TREASON, but WE are being “BLACK MAILED” (IRONIC, ISN’T IT?) BY THESE MARXIST(SATANISTS) WITH THE THREAT OF RIOTS IN EVERY STREET!!! IT’S OVER AMERICA, OUR PROGRESSIVE(MARXIST) SATANIC SCHOOL SYSTEM DID IT’S JOB! NEXT COMING; JACOB’S TROUBLE AND THE SPANISH INQUISITION II! THIS TIME COMING TO AMERICA! YOU’LL KNOW THAT THE “S–T” HAS HIT THE FAN BY THIS OCTOBER! AND, YOU VOTED FOR A NON-SECRETIVE MARXIST(SATANIC) TAKEOVER! HE DIDN’T KEEP IT A SECRET, YA KNOW! YOU ARE EITHER DUMB, OR JUST EVIL! WHAT DO YOU THINK! I’D LIKE TO THINK DUMB, BUT—

    • Tazio2013

      Yo Barney,

      You referred to Satan three times in one paragraph and in caps. Can’t you express yourself more clearly and in lower case letters? Do you really think that god and jesus are going to get US out of this mess initially created with malice of forethought by the Judaeo-Christian / Amero-Fascist Republicrats, who are themselves a wholly owned subsidiary of the NWO/GPE or, referring to Monday’s PLD: “How Does the 1 percent Control the 99 percent”, the wealthy, white, racist, statist, war-mongering, genocidal, nefarious 1%ers? Consider re-educating yourself by reading recent and back issues of “The Daily Bell” and the more objective / intelligent Internet publications. You could start with a re-reading of Monday’s PLD including the myriad dozens of reader comments/replies.

      • http://Don'thaveone Sally

        No we as believers don’t think that Our God and Jesus are going to get you non believers out of the mess you created. You aleady took God and Jesus out of the schools, want to tke off the money which has started with the one dollar ooin that non of us are going to accept. However, yes our Lord and Savior is going to get us out of the mess and Leave you All Behind to enjoy what you voted for.

        • http://Yahoo Dee D

          I agree with you 100% Sally. Look at what has started already. Earthquakes in divers places. Tell seasons by the leaves on the trees. Etc. Etc. These people who truly think my God will allow non thinking humans (?) to be in control of the beautiful world he created for us are really in for the surprise of their lives. He is the master and he will take matters into his own hands in due time. I think he calls it fire and brimstone. However the meek will inherit the earth and there will be the promised New Jerusalem – so I believe the Christians will be given a third chance. Maybe the 3rd go round will be the proven one.

  • TGS

    George W. Bush and Dick Cheney committed horrific crimes within our country and war crimes beyond our borders. They both should be tried outside of US jurisdiction and if found guilty should face the same form of justice afforded other criminal leaders. (i.e., Saddam Hussein, Nicolae Ceauşescu) The Bush/Cheney administration did more harm to this country than Osama bin Laden and all other terrorists groups combined. We live under a greater threat today because of the failed Bush/Cheney policies.

    I voted a straight Republican ticket for over 20 years, then George W. Bush changed all of that. I did NOT vote for him in either of his Presidential bids and after eight years of his administration I don’t know if I will ever vote for another Republican.

    In the final years of the Bush debacle/administration, the people voted in a Democratic congress in hopes they would stand up to Bush and stop his agenda. When this didn’t work, we voted in a Democratic President and an even stronger Democratic majority. They have failed to stand up to a few loud mouth bullies who have manipulated public opinion through media coverage of their lies. I challenge anyone to do a fact check on the statements made by President Obama versus the Republicans opposing him during the recent health care debate. Don’t just start posting a rebuttal to this, really check their statements. You will find that the President was correct in the facts he presented and, for the most part, the Republican opposing him were incorrect. Check the facts before you stand blindly behind one from either party. This is what I did and that’s why I support our President and it’s why I vote Democrat.

    • Todd Phillips

      More republicans need to wake up to these facts, rather than knee jerking against all of Obama’s efforts. If this country is indeed headed for an abyss, it has been turbocharged by the absolute criminality of Cheyney/Bush.

      • Sal

        The infection in our country is the Progressive movement and it has infected both parties (all of D.C.). The Progressive movement is directly opposite of our Republic, that is why we are all fighting. Both of our parties are infected and each of us has a hard time seeing the problems within our own parties. Let me just say this, the 2 party system has become like a Halloween party. Our elected politicians are hiding behind a mask and we can’t tell who is who. Solution? If you don’t like the government take over you’re seeing and experiencing, vote the bums out. It’s time to realize that we’ve hit that proverbial fork in the road and there’s no fence to sit on. Do you want power back to the people or to Big Government, it’s that simple.

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          Sal… I agree with your post 100%! Both parties are infected with corrupt politicians. Voters will need to do their homework this next election. We must vote out those who are in any way connected to the progressive movement. Anyone who does not agree with that is simply unAmerican!

          • eyeswideopen

            Robin, you say vote out progressives, what do you call the repubs/conservatives who caused the same problems? You are planning on leaving in office all those repubs who violated your principles?

          • Joe H.

            eyescrimpedshut,
            Read what Robin wrote, she said BOTH parties!!! Are you both Blind AND ignorant???? quit being so ardent a libbie supporter!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            Joe, can’t you read, she said vote out any progressives. Since when did the repubs/conserv become progressives??

      • Jana

        Todd, if we could find something worthwhile that BO stands for, we would get behind it, but how can you get behind someone out to change our country so radically? We can’t.

    • Warrior

      TGS,
      You are absolutely correct. We do live under a greater threat today than under Bush/Cheney. And the threat is from our own government.

      • TGS

        Warrior,
        That’s right! The policies of Bush/Cheney have created a situation where our own government is a threat. If those still loyal to the failed policies of Bush/Cheney have their way this threat will increase.

        • Joe H.

          TGS,
          If as you say Bush started this government threat, how do you explain the fact that Obummer has continued them???

      • TGS

        Chas,
        Your “bullets are cheaper” shows that you apparently don’t believe in what our country truly represents. We are a representative democracy, and we change the course of our country in the voting booth, not through acts of terrorism. That is exactly what your comment suggests, an act of terrorism if you can’t win in the voting booth. It is an attitude like yours that is the greatest to the future of our nation.
        TGS

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      TGS… You have issues to say the least. President Bush kept us safe. Why and how you equate him to any terrorist is ludicrous!

      • Tazio2013

        You’re either kidding, ill-informed or drinking the BLP (beck, limbaugh, palin) Koolade. You may wish to re-educate yourself with some objective truth. Cheney Bush, the greatest mass murderer of the early 21st century, created ten thousand plus times the number of terrorists they killed or imprisoned in the phony “holy” war against Islam. And wait until we see what happens when the Amero-Israeli War Machine starts yet another phony war with Iran.

        • Joe H.

          Tazio,
          If you had listened to Beck before Bush was out, you would know he ranted against him a lot. But for you, who finds all non-libbies scum, it is easier to just lump them all together!!! I suggest you listen to those you accuse before you do!!!

      • TGS

        Robin,
        The majority of threat we face today are the direct result of George W. Bush’s action while he occupied the White House.

    • Doc Sarvis

      TGS, I totally agree. America is reduced in moral stature due to our implementation of torture. It is proven that we don’t even gain usefull information from those tactics, not that that even justifies it.

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      As usual the librals have nothing to back up their claims just retoric. However, TGS, is you will kindly go to http://www.gop.gov you will see what the Republicans were trying to gret someone in Congress to accept their proposal and of course to no avail. Look at the date on the bottom of each page. The Obamacare bill is nothing more than a tax bill that noone can afford. I doubt seriously if you have even read the House Bill. I have and it is frightful especially with the government having direct access to bank accounts and financial information, making life and death decisions on our part, making everyone pay, illegals not excluded, telling doctors no matter what their speciality of what they can make and it will all be the same pay – taxing hospitals – it is absolutely pathetic. I don’t understand how any human being could come up with the garbage that they are considering to be a healthcare bill. Wow.

      • eyeswideopen

        Sally, here is the treaty that we signed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Convention

        Our Constitution states that we must honor treaties that we sign. It doesn’t say that we should try to rewrite laws to allow torture.

    • http://Google GIVEMEFREEDOM

      I don’t believe you EVER voted for a Republican.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Givemefreedom – I have voted for a few Republicans, but never again. When they took my vote from me in 2000 and allowed the Federal Court to tell me they would do the job for me was the last straw. When any one party truly thinks they can dictate then I am done with them – period.

        • momof4

          DeeD,
          Then you must be done with the Dems too?

    • Phil

      TGS…. Very good post my friend…. You get it….and I agree

    • surfer199211

      FACTS? FACTS? Where are your facts supporting your claim that the President’s comments are true? Reguarding the “Policy’s of Bush/Cheney” are you talking about the Patriot Act? Which was voted 357 yeas to 66 nays in the House of Rep. and 98 yeas to 1 nays in the SENATE in 2001, and 280 yeas to 138 nays in 2006. You seem to forget that the President and the VP are not the only two people to decide on what this country is doing, the Bush Administration was acctualy deciding with a BY PARTISON approval.Can you even count the republicans that voted for the health care take over? Let me help you ONE! And who wrote the bill let me help you again DEMONCRATS !!! So the Obama/Congress Democrats are the Administration that are commiting HORRIFIC TREASONOUS CRIMES to our NATION by pushing there NON CONSTITUTIONAL adgenda to take over our entire fiscal and social systems via Government control. We are not a Third world country thats “knows not what we do” We are the Proud UNITED STATES OF AMERICA not the Proud US Governments Servants.

      • eyeswideopen

        Surfer, the only people who have committed horrific crimes, is Cheney. I hope a foreign country decides to sue him for not adhering to our treaty.

        • surfer199211

          If you read my whole post your will see that Bush/Cheney are not the only ones that make decissions on WAR!! Dont forget the Democrates in Congress that help make theses decissions. When you vote YEA… You TOO are responsible.

          • eyeswideopen

            I admit that voting republican has made me responsible for the horrific situation we have today. Diffenence now is that I will not let fear decide who I vote for. Love the RNC documents found here in Fl, calling small donors reactionaries. Their idea for rasing money is to use fear and for the large donors, ego massaging. Great platforms for raising money. The Republican party is calling all of you small donors reactionaries!!! What a hoot. LMAO!!!

  • taz

    you need to concentrate on what this fraudelent “president” is trying to do now. terrorists do not have rights as citizens in this country.
    dont you think it is kinda strange that the current administration is
    protecting them? the terrorists? look at pelosi…she is going to push bills that will be detrimental to the AMERICANS of this country.
    have you ever thought about why? poor biden is always used as a puppet.
    he is told which way he will answer, but sometimes he slips and tells the truth. recently found where the degree that “president” holds
    was actually purchased with foreign currency. when he cannot control
    things anymore he will declare martial law in this country and then
    the revolution will advance in full force. GOD BLESS OUR COUNTRY.

  • http://PersonalLiberty Judy

    TSJ would you rather lose all your freedom and liberty to have a dictatorship as in Cuba and Venezuela. Well if we continue on this path that this administration is taking us on we will end up a socialist, Marxist, communist country. We were safe from terrorists under Bush/Cheney then we are now. Do your homework. Your watching too much lame street media.

    • eyeswideopen

      Judy, are you a member of the John Birch Society? Your talking points sound just like theirs.

  • http://PersonalLiberty Judy

    Correction: lame stream media!

    • Joe H.

      Judy,
      Lame street media or sesame street news???

  • J.M.R.

    if these lame obomb lovers love what hes doing so much they need go live in the commie marxist facist countries and then they might learn the truth about what a scum bag he is!!!

  • http://BobLivingston Dean

    Water-boarding is NOT torture. Two of my family mambers have been
    water-boarded – of course it is umcomfortable, it feels like you are drowning, but there is no permanent damage! No broken bones, no dismemberment, no beheading and pulling through the streets or any such things terrorists do. Think about it – If you could prevent hundreds, thousands or your loved one from being killed, would you agree to waterboard a terriorist to gain the information to prevent
    their deaths?

    • eyeswideopen

      Dean, no, we are a country of Laws. I know you repubs want to rewrite them to fit the circumstances that you want, however, we did sign a treaty and that treaty specifically outlaws what was done to those prisoners. You either believe in the Constitution and honor the treaties we sign, or you are against the Constitution.

      • Michael J.

        EWO,
        Seems as though you and Obama want to cherry pick which parts of The Constitution to respect and uphold.

        Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution: “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President;

        WHERE’S THE B.C.?

        As far as toture goes… I gues it’s just a matter of what your definition of “IS”, is. Torture that is, in the minds of most that is, involves stuff like electric shock, red hot pokers, broken bones or Bamboo under the finger nails at least. But pouring water on somebody? Please, give me a break. In third world countries kids do that to each other just for laughs. When I was a teenager, I did it to myself every weekend, only I used beer instead of water.

        All this stuff is designed to weaken and destabilize our nation. Some time when you have an hour too spare, I’ll talk to you about it for a minute.

        • eyeswideopen

          Michael, sorry dude, but you are the one cherry picking, read the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions, which we signed. You don’t have the right to try and rewrite what the defination of torture is. It was decided, and we signed that document. No one knew that the repubs/conservs would come along later and decide to change the defination of torture, but after reading it again, I don’t see anywhere that it says, Michael’s new defination of torture should be adhered too!! You lose. Just admit that you don’t honor the Constitution.

          • Michael J.

            EWO,
            According to the Declaration of Independence, EWO has been over endowed by her Creator, with the unalienable Right to be Wrong.
            P.S. And good luck in your Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

          • Joe H.

            eyesgooberedshut,
            Show me where it says waterboarding non-saltwater is torture!!!! See that your source specifically states non-water or fresh water!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            Michael, just like you radicals, when proven wrong, you try and change the subject. Hypocrital don’t you know.

  • Phil

    Of course Bush & Cheney are war criminals… We don’t even realize the damage they’ve done to out country yet… The neo conservatives have just about completely destroyed America….

    • Michael J.

      Phool,
      Unlike Obama, whose potential attrocities were apparent to most prior to his Acorn, SEIU induced election.

  • Gunnerv1

    Perhaps they fail to realize that this can also be used against them at a later date, if and when (and it will happen)they have a problem.

  • Phil

    Dean, waterboarding is torture and ( America) executed Japanese soldiers for torturing our people during ww2…. It’s also aginst international law which we signed on to…. And waterboard during training when you know your not really going to be killed is far diffrent.. I can’t believe you think that’s a valid excuse… Bottline…. It’s illegal.. Understand?

    • Joe H.

      Phil,
      I suggest if you think the training that special forces go through you try it!!!! See if you have a little more respect for them!!!

      • Joe H.

        that was supposed to read is a walk in the park!

      • Phil

        Joe, I need to point out your attempt to sneak in your lie…. Where in my post did I say anything about not respecting any special forces?…I do think the administration abused our military and I disrespect that administration and anyone who blindly backed them but our troops I respect… I believe it might be the rightwing that’s done all the disrespecting of our country and military… Let’s keep this discussion to what’s really posted and not any fiction you like to add…. I won’t hesitate to tell you who I disrespect…

        • Joe H.

          Phil,
          I’ll tell you who you disrespect, you7 disrespect the United States of America as a whole!!!! You have proven that with your liberal progressive posts here many times over!!

          • Jana

            Joe, That’s for sure.

        • Joe H.

          philly Brand,
          you say the military abused the military when waterboarding them, but why don’t those soldiers??? That is obvious to me. They aren’t traitors to their country!!!

  • RLR

    I am constantly amazed at the vehemence of hatred expressed over this issue. Bush/Cheney are as fallible as all the rest of us and certainly made mistakes and estalished some bad policies. This one, however, was NOT one of them! They didn’t start this war! On the contrary, they took measures that would warn the terrorists around the world we would fight back and not tolerate these acts of violence on our civilians and to establish an increase in security to our national borders and the civilians who live within them. Again, not perfect, but preferable to doing something weaker or nothing at all! I am very grateful our military and security forces had techniques at hand to gain the information to keep my family safe. Obama’s policy of moving terrorist trials to the civilian system will fail and make this country weak and put all of our safety at risk. God bless us indeed!

  • Wanda

    People who thinks its o.k. for americans to be beheaded but terrorist that beheaded that american plus the other things they do to them can’t be waterboarded,need to get out of our country. Go live in the countries that beleive in that kind of sickness.

    • http://Yahoo Larry T.

      Wanda, I don’t realy think they want to go to the country’s that believe in that, If they did and stsrted spouting their garbage against the Government they would finding out what real tourture is.
      Think they would like that? I don’t think so. Maybe if they had their heads out of their backsides far enough they might realize it. Maybe, maybe not.

    • http://Yahoo Larry T.

      Wanda, I don’t realy think they want to go to the country’s that believe in that, If they did and started spouting their garbage against the Government they would finding out what real tourture is.
      Think they would like that? I don’t think so. Maybe if they had their heads out of their backsides far enough they might realize it. Maybe, maybe not.

    • eyeswideopen

      Wanda, no American soldiers were beheaded, nor were they tortured. I guess you don’t believe in our Constitution do you?

      • libertytrain

        Eyes, I believe you are greatly mistaken:U.S. Soldiers Beheaded by al Qaeda
        James Joyner | Monday, July 10, 2006
        “An al Qaeda faction has released a video showing the murder of two soldiers captured June 19. SITE reports:
        The Mujahideen Shura Council in Iraq issued today, July 10, 2006, a 4:39 minute video that shows the mutilated corpses of the two American soldiers the group stated to have captured on June 19, 2006. description:
        “The two victims, Kristian Menchaca and Thomas Tucker, were members of the 101st Airborne division abducted by al Qaeda in Iraq. A third soldier died in the attack
        “Their bodies were later recovered not far from where they had been kidnapped. The US military now says that their corpses were found tied together with a bomb between them. Three roadside bombs were planted around the bodies. The bodies had been decapitated.
        “The video bears the logo of al Qaeda in Iraq. Contrary to reports by al Qaeda, the video appears to show that the two soldiers were already dead before at least one of them was beheaded.
        “After a brief introduction with an image and the voice of Osama bin Laden, the video shows the two dead soldiers lying on a bridge. Both are already dead. One of the men has already been beheaded, the other man is dead. An al Qaeda member holds the severed head of one of the dead soldiers. One of the two soldiers appear to have been shot, the other has multiply wounds…”
        http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/beheading_desecration_video_of_dead_us_soldiers_released_on_internet_by_al_qaeda_videoimages/

        • Michael J.

          Libertytrain,
          Those two soldiers were also brutally tortured prior to being beheaded.

          • libertytrain

            I know, I read the article – and did remember the story from 2006 – I have two in Afghanistan at the moment so these things hit me hard when they occur.

        • eyeswideopen

          Liberty, I didn’t know that happened, My Son was killed in Iraq on May 3rd, 2006 and I didn’t read or watch any news for over 6 months. I apologize for not knowing, but I still don’t believe in torture. We are supposed to be better than those people, after all we are Christians.

          • libertytrain

            eyes, I am surprised that you didn’t “Google” your info first before you declared it had never happened -

          • libertytrain

            Eyes – what branch of the military was he in – I know you mentioned before but can’t remember – I, as a mother, am saddened for your loss – as I have mentioned before when you brought your wonderful son up – I am truly sorry.

      • Joe H.

        eyesembarrassedshut,
        Care to open your mouth and insert your foot again???? You do it quite well!!!! It’s quite a feat.(pun intended!!!)

  • http://llongwill@austin.rr.com ldot

    The DOJ is just as corrupt as this administration. No telling how many DOJ lawyers are on the obama payroll. If they are a proponent of justice, why then can’t rule that all of the school records, law records, medical records, birth records, etc. that obama-the-fraud has spent $1 million + to keep secret, rule for full disclosesure.

    The liberal elite, DOJ and trial lawyers, ACLU and SEIU are bringing ruin to the US of A for their own personal greed and power.

    How shameful.

  • Ray Newman

    It always amazes me how quick some people are to blame all the wrong people. But, the guarantee is that when this country no longer exists as a free nation you better keep your thoughts to yourself. Because they will really get you in trouble then.

    • eyeswideopen

      Ray, you are perfectly correct. When we start ignoring our LAWS, and the Constitution, we will be in trouble. We signed a treaty and then totally ignored it, as our VP, thought he knew best.

      • momof4

        Oh please Eyes we have been totally ignoring the Constitution for the last year, but when it’s your guy I guess it’s OK?

        • eyeswideopen

          momof4, forgive me when did he torture someone?

          • momof4

            Eyes,
            Sorry I guess I was off subject. I was talking about other parts of the constitution. Water boarding may be uncomfortable but not as painful as being pulled limb from limb from your mothers womb, NOW THATS TORTURE.

  • eddie47d

    Judy; How can anyone say that Bush/Cheney kept us safe when 9-11 happened under their term. The Iraq war certainly made things worse. Opps,maybe you should do YOUR homework. Disgusted;I guess your grandfather enjoyed being tortured because that’s how you framed it. Torture seldom works,so are you saying your grandfather gave up useful information to the enemy?

    • Joe H.

      eddie,
      I suggest you stick your head up a little farther, you can still type!!!

      • Michael J.

        JoeH,
        Any further and it’s likely to pop back up between his shoulders again.
        Which I guess would make him a circle-jerk?

        • Joe H.

          Michael J.
          I guess, we already KNOW he’s a jerk!!!

  • R L Albanys

    source: http://www.alternet.org/world/38604/

    Benjamin Ferencz’s Thoughts on Bush, Cheney, Yoo et al

    Could Bush Be Prosecuted for War Crimes?

    “A Nuremberg chief prosecutor says there is a case for trying Bush for the ‘supreme crime against humanity, an illegal war of aggression against a sovereign nation.’ ”

    “… Benjamin Ferencz, a former chief prosecutor of the Nuremberg Trials who successfully convicted 22 Nazi officers for their work in orchestrating death squads that killed more than one million people in the famous Einsatzgruppen Case. Ferencz, now 87, has gone on to become a founding father of the basis behind international law regarding war crimes, and his essays and legal work drawing from the Nuremberg trials and later the commission that established the International Criminal Court remain a lasting influence in that realm.”

    “Ferencz believes that a “prima facie case can be made that the United States is guilty of the supreme crime against humanity, that being an illegal war of aggression against a sovereign nation.””

  • Nancy

    How many of you “do gooders” have seen combat? How many of you know what it takes to keep our country safe from these barbarians? How many of you know anything and haven’t the brains to figure it out? And just whose side are you on? Just leave our country!

    • Doc Sarvis

      Yes, and the last administration who got us into one war based on lies and another war with no commitment to the troops were all a bunch of chickenhawks as well.

    • Phil

      Nancy … George W. Bush… AWOL… Dick Cheney.. No military service…. Karl Rove… No military service…. Mitt Romney…No military service…. Glenn Beck…. No military service….Rush Limbaugh …No military service…. Sean Hannity…No military service…Bill O’reilly …No military service… Sarah Palin …. No mitary service….Ronald Reagan… Made propaganda films…….you were saying?…

      • Joe H.

        Phil the buttposter— no military service!!!!

  • RobM

    For the BS uttered by BGS et al:

    “People sleep peacably in their beds at night ONLY because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.”–George Orwell

  • Fed Up

    And we permit Charlie Rangel to still be in Congress and be a Committee Chairman after all of his “indiscretions” and outright lies?

  • Phil

    It’s dispicable the way you Bush loving Neo Con Anti Goverment Hate everybody and everything radicals try and wrap yourselves in religion and patriotism in an attempt to condone your hatefull agenda….it’s as fake as Bushs case for war in Iraq was…..you that still support that Neo con agenda are as guilty as Al Qaida ….their isn’t much diffrence in you and Timothy McVeigh…

    • Michael J.

      Phil,
      It’s dispicable the way you Obama loving limp wristed Anti Santa, Hate America and the Constitution, Saul Alinsky radicals trying to wrap yourselves in sushi and gay marriage in an attempt to condone your hatefull agenda….it’s as fake as Obama’s birth certificate was…..you that still support that Socialist agenda are as guilty as Charles Rangel ….their isn’t much diffrence in you and Amy Bishop…

      • Joe H.

        Michael J,
        I think Amy and him are the same S E X !!!!

  • David of Flanders

    Shut up lefties! Like we should give a crap about bolshevik lawyers pretending to be champions of justice.

  • http://malcolmsr@gossdrive.com Malcolm

    Well, looks like the Bush haters are still at it. Wonder what these people would be doing if they did not have freedom of their hateful words? What kind of jobs do they earn their money from? Is it some of my money that been taken and given to them. At least I did work work mine.

    I just set back and laugh at how “DUMB” people can be. Especially taking their cue from the White House now. When will people be back to speak for themselves?

    Because of this President, I am worried about our freedoms and especially having to split my one bean I’ve work hard for years, to give to someone else that has not.

    I guess freedom comes with a price. Are we willing to pay for our “FREWEDOM”?

    You be the judge…… Please use common sense when you vote, if you vote for what is right and nothing “ELSE”.

    Old Red Neck Country Boy’s point of view……………

    • eyeswideopen

      Malcom, you should be thanking those repubs who had control for 12 years. They let the banks run wild, causing the bubble. They also cut the taxes, which meant we have no funds to pay for both wars they wanted. If you have to thank them for all they did, it will take you quit a while…hint just look for all those horrible things…or follow the money would be easier.

      • Joe H.

        eyesdentedshut,
        That’s it leave your hero Clintoon out of the blame, just name the repubs as usual. you say you aren’t against everything the repubs did but here you go again blaming them for stuff all by themselves when you KNOW the dems had a part in it even larger than the repubs!!!! What a crock!!!! Admit it, You NEVER voted for a republican, hell you never even considered it, did you???

        • eyeswideopen

          JoeH, oh yes, I voted for everyone of the repubs who helped put us in such a crisis that it will take years to recover. Except, I didn’t vote twice for Bush. That was when I started to do research and figured out that the repubs were spending way too much and had given the wealthy a huge tax break. Maybe you could glee some info from this post. http://www.lwv.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home&TEMPLATE=/CM/ContentDisplay.cfm&CONTENTEDID=12682

          For your info, as a Christian, Clinton, was not my idea of what or how a President should be.

          • Joe H.

            Bu!!!! Sorry I sneezed!!!

  • http://yahoo chas

    What ALL this RANTING misses is THIS: WE are @ WAR IN THIS COUNTRY!!…It is between the”GIMMES” & the “LEMMES”…The former want someone to GIVE them everything & the latter just want government OUT of their business, & to Quit stealing their rights in the name of tossing them a bone….When those of us with BRAINS are willing to , not only DIE for their rights but KILL for them, you will see ALL these issues resolve…The QUESTION remains; Are WE willing to DIE for our RIGHTS more than the BLUE-SHIRTED LIBERAL NAZIS are willing to DIE for their small bones?…

    • TGS

      CHAS — It is really odd that you would use the term “nazis” in relation to liberals. It was George Herbert Walker and Prescott Bush (W’s great grandfather and grandfather) who supported Hitler and wanted to overthrow the President of the United States. Prescott Bush, who was later elected as a conservative republican senator, father of George H.W. Bush and great grandfather to George W. Bush, wanted the United States to support Hitler in WWII. Check it out if you don’t believe it. There are many reputable places to find this information, even within governmental archives.

      What’s that old saying? “The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.” There are so many things that could be said, but it’s all history now and, unfortunately, none of the Bush family will ever receive justice for their crimes.

      • http://yahoo chas

        NAZI: from the GERMAN: NATIONALE ZOCIALISTE or “NATIONAL SOCIALIST”….WHO’s the SOCIALIST-IN-CHIEF?…WHO is trading our liberties to control the economy, healthcare AND the BANKS?..Just like HITLER did?….LEARN your HISTORY (most likely, TOO LATE!!…That’s why CIVIL WAR is inevitable)

      • jim

        It’s 65 years past that now, so whats your point? Let’s focus on NOW.

        • jim

          MY post is to TGS

  • http://yahoo chas

    I AM!!…The tactics used by HITLER to burn the Reichstag & blame it on the OPPOSING party are in play NOW( See; Saul Alinsky’s “Rules For Radicals”, Whore-Lary Clinton & Comrade ZERO’s BIBLE!!)…Those of us who KNOW what’s going on are preparing for the inevitable. Burdened with a party that has been taken over by commie sixties radicals & whose religion is STATISM, who do NOT care about logic/ reason or the FACTS of ECONOMICS/HISTORY/SCIENCE ( ie: cap & Trade tax for bogus “Global Warming”),we are going to be inundated with programs a MINORITY of people desire & the MAJORITY of hard-working people MUST pay for….BULLETS are CHEAPER!!

    • jim

      Chas, My post was for TGS, I understand your point. Sorry for the confusion.

  • William L. Lindsey, SFC, US Army, Retired

    This sounds like a push toward socialism and dictatorship. Heil Obama! There are some really stupid, nit-picking, egomaniacal (?) knuckleheads in the wrong profession. They should be trial lawyers for Bozo the clown.

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    A business proposal is produced to reflect the professionalism of your organisation and is there to persuade a buyer that your goods or services are useful to them. Along with any other collateral it’s the proposition which you are giving towards the customer and what will hopefully win much more function for the business.

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