How Would You Handle A Home Intruder: With Lethal Force Or With Non-Lethal Ammo?

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To kill or not to kill. That is the question. You may be perfectly within your legal and ethical rights to end the life of a home intruder, but is that what you want to do? That’s what you have to ask yourself, and I’d recommend that you do it before it happens, not afterward.

If I wake up to an uninvited person in my home at 3 in the morning, there is only one assumption that I can make: that he is there to rob me and very possibly to rape, kill or kidnap my wife and/or my children. If I assume anything less than that, I’m a fool.

So I already feel that I have the right to protect myself in any fashion that I choose, including shooting to kill if that’s the option that seems best in order to accomplish my goal of keeping my family members safe. By breaking into my home, this intruder has forfeited his rights to a friendly, sit-down chat; and if he ends up dying under my roof, well, better him than one of us who lives there.

But let’s look at the other side of the coin for a moment, because there are repercussions to everything that we do in life. If I end the life of a home intruder, there’s no bringing him back. Regardless of how he got in and what his intentions were, he’s gone forever.

What if I find out after the fact that I shot a mentally handicapped person who was too confused to know where he was and didn’t even have a weapon? Or what if he was an unarmed teenager who was trying to “prove himself” to his friends? I’m not saying that I would not be within my rights to use lethal force; I’m just saying that if I ever ended up regretting my decision to shoot the intruder dead, those regrets would go unresolved.

And, of course, there is also the possibility that I could harm my wife or one of my children if I use live ammo to try to kill a home intruder. One or more of my family members could be near the intruder when I shoot without me seeing them in the dark. Or what if one of my bullets passes through a wall and strikes my child or wife?

I strongly believe that I am within my rights to shoot and kill a home intruder. But that doesn’t mean that doing it is necessarily the right response for everyone. Another option for possibly taking down a home intruder without ending his life is non-lethal ammo. If you choose this route, here are five types you may want to consider:

  • Rubber bullets: They won’t penetrate the skin, but will leave serious welts that will require medical attention.
  • Wax bullets: These could penetrate the skin at close range or if they strike a sensitive body part.
  • Plastic bullets: These are used by police for riot control. They’re also used for target practice.
  • Electric bullets: These are metal or rubber bullets that release an electrical charge when they hit a target, much like a Taser or other shock weapon.
  • Bean bag rounds: These are designed to incapacitate the target and leave large welts, but not penetrate the skin.

The biggest concern that some people have with non-lethal ammo is that it might result in only slowing down some intruders — including particularly large men — and not stopping them. They say that non-lethal ammo could end up infuriating the home intruder and making the situation even worse for you and your family. And if you end up in a gun fight with a home intruder, it’s very likely that he will be using live ammo.

So, if you use live ammo to try to stop a home intruder, you’re within your rights to do so. But if you can’t bring yourself to do that for whatever reason, there are alternatives, including non-lethal ammo. Only you can make the decision that’s right for you and your family. The most important thing is to make this decision in advance and then be as prepared as possible should that nightmare situation ever present itself.

To learn more about how to protect yourself from a home intruder, check out my blog post on 40 homemade weapons you already own and join in the discussion.

–Frank Bates

Frank Bates

is a contributing writer to Patriot Headquarters, a new website featuring 100s of articles on how to be more self-reliant. Frank is also the founder of Food4Patriots, a supplier of emergency food suitable for long-term storage, survival and emergency preparedness.

  • SavaDude

    And now!
    Let the stupidity, COMMENCE!

  • huntman

    These ideas make sense only if you:
    1. Have a lot of money you don’t need. You will now spend it defending a frivolous law suit filed by the intruder.
    2. Like being a center of attention and enjoy media types on your front lawn asking to comment on the lies told by intruder and asking you why you hate blacks (or children, or women, or whatever).
    3. Like shooting your non-lethal ammo so much that you don’t mind all the friends of the intruder coming by night after night seeking revenge, or at least trying to scare you into refusing to testify against their buddy.
    4. Don’t mind all the other people in the habit of breaking into the stranger’s houses breaking into yours, because they know they will not get shot to death, but can score your firearm for themselves.

    There is only one way to deal with the intruder who is threatening your life (you cannot shoot anybody otherwise): shoot them dead and keep your mouth shut until your lawyer gets there.

    • Seeker1212

      Great Advice..!! All the concerns of these bleeding heart liberals and Brain-Dead second geesers are what causes innocent people to get killed.

    • exbuckeye

      huntman, it sounds like you (like me) have been there, done that!!
      Yes YOU have a perfect handle on the aftermath. Most of the answers I’ve
      seen across the years to these types of atricles/questionns, people dont
      have the first clue whats gonna happen to them – later.
      They were even gonna charge me with premeditated murder if the guy died.
      Never charged him with anything for breaking in and then assaulting me 3
      times (targeted my head and neck each time trying main or kill me).

      And yes he and a friend did come by 1 1/2 years later and shot the crap out of our house trying to kill us thru the windows. I still (23 years later) have fear walking into my front room late at night backlit by the lights in the kitchen.

    • retirednavy

      Right on huntman. The law in some cases is agreater enemy than a criminal. Currently the danger contitnues to grow.

      • Daigh

        Yes, there is a case in the state of Massachusetts where a woman retreated from an intruder to the basement of her home. When the intruder came after her there she shot and killed him. She was tried and sent to prison for her action. The judge said she should have run out the front door (supposedly to another state that does not coddle criminals!). Check your state laws on if you are required to retreat or stand your ground in the face of an intruder in your home. The reason so many cop shootings are justifiable is that an LEO is not required to retreat while enforcing the law.

    • FreedomFighter

      Have to agree “shoot them dead and keep your mouth shut until your lawyer gets there” better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
      Laus Deo
      Semper FI

      • Jimmy the Greek

        To hell with the lawyer ! and the police , the place next to mine has hogs .

        • burtfisher

          In this day and age, this is the only thing that makes sense. Instead of whether to be judged by twelve, carried by six, or just a few wondering why the grass grows funny in that spot in the backyard.

    • Jeff

      What kind of intruder are we talking about? Most are teenagers who will be scared off by your very presence. Are those the ones you want to kill first? I’m sure your 25 year old VCR is worth the life of some 14 year old.

      • bruceb64

        That 14 yr old is just as capable of murder, rape, or robbery as the 40 yr old!

        • Daigh

          Indeed they are. It only takes a few pounds of pressure to pull a trigger, well within the physical capabilities of all but the most young or handicapped.

      • Richard Canary

        “I’m sure your 25 year old VCR is worth the life of some 14 year old.”–Jeff

        This is a totally upside-down assessment. The real fact is that in such a situation, the kid is weighing your 25-year-old VCR against HIS OWN LIFE!

        BUT, all this talk about whether to assert your own rights and duties as a father, husband, citizen, etc, should be considered within the context that you have taken responsible steps to make any perpetrator AVOID your property in any case.

        Outdoor lighting used properly is much more effective than life insurance!

        Signs like “Keep Out”, “No Trespassing”, and even “Trespassers will be dealt with severely”, as well as stickers of the NGA, NRA, and NAGR will be sufficient to encourage almost all criminal types of all ages to choose another target, especially if you live in a gun-friendly city, county, state.

        • Carl Stevenson

          The kid is probably willing to kill YOU (and our family). He mad that calculation in his own mind before he broke in.

      • Daigh

        Tell me Jeffy boy, when did you acquire the gift of mind reading. I would like to take that course. Is it online or at your local community college under psychology classes offered?

      • Roth Ofzion

        In Minnesota a former security advisor is going down for murder because he decided to shoot two teenagers in his home. He had multiple burgleries in a rural home. He shot the first unarmed teenager going down his basement stairs incapacitating him. He then shot him in the head on the floor. He shot the teenage girl who followed and killed her after she was down. He was lying in wait for these teenagers and than he executed them. He waited 24 hours before calling the police. While being broken into is horribly annoying and potentially dangerous this man failed to taken even basic steps to prevent repeats of the breakins such as alarms, lights, cameras, better door and window locks and he was a security professional.

      • Shoestring

        It doesn’t matter if the vcr is 40 years old, I worked to buy it and its mine. besides if the teenager knew he could be killed trying to steal it, he just might not commit the break in and if he broke in anyway then he knew what he was getting into and so be it. Hey maybe we could get home intruders to hand us a note with there intentions to just take the vcr and do nothing else. we wouldn’t need to use lethal defense then because true,, the vcr is not worth a life. Oh I forgot, the intruder probably has a gun hidden under his jacket for defense from you and decides that your wife or daughter is awfully pretty(heaven forbid) (I’m not saying that lightly) its happened. What then? Is protecting them worth someone’s life? I guess you don’t have to worry about that though cause he already told you that he’s only 14 yrs old and just after your vcr. I wish I lived in that world, Oh by the way 14yr olds on crack and other street drugs wont be scared off by you or Superman………..

      • burtfisher

        Like Trayvon, the gun-slinging pot-smoking, fight club member, expelled and thrown out of his own mother’s house, burglary-tool carrying “youth”? He wasn’t 14 years old, although he had been breaking in to homes since long before he was 14. Interestingly, as Jesus said (and many have quoted him) if you live by the sword you die by the sword. So little Skittles Trayvon he dayed now. The remaining question is do you want to end up like Zimmerman for shooting a criminal hell-bent on killing you? THIS is the question that this article is asking you to consider.

    • Duane Owen

      SO RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!

    • momar4

      After reading most of the posts, and as a 53 year old mother of six children, I personally have not had to deal with an intruder in my home. The thought of this frightens me, however; I think that critical thinking would have to play out. I have an autistic brother whom just turned 57, I was thinking if he for some reason found himself in a situation where he needed help, or shelter he may open someones door and walk in their home. I would hope the people would not shoot him dead, but maybe ask him if he needs help and call the police, using critical thinking means looking at each situation, and using you instincts to make good decisions, not all people who go in someones home are there to do harm. A runaway could be looking for food, in fear of asking for help and being turned back over to an abusive parent as another example, this is not about being a bleeding heart, this is about good moral decisions… period.

  • 61Deacon64

    I believe Brian Terry had to use “Bean Bags” with the so called “Border Patrol”.

    • coalminer

      John,
      Good post! They can also wear eye goggles and a hold a cloth over their mouths and noses. A good well placed bullet can stop any intruder,no matter what is his size.

    • TIMANN

      Correct, and look what happened to the poor bloke. Murdered by gun runners foreign and domestic!

  • Derek Balling

    If “regret” is truly a concern, one option would be to put, say, rubber bullets as the first two rounds in the pipe/magazine, with lethal-force rounds following.

    This way, in the “large man” scenario the author describes, if they’re still coming after two, they have at least presumably been slowed down a little bit by the first two shots, such that you can get to the third shot which is a kill-shot.

    It’s not a trade-off *I* would make, but if this is the compromise someone needs to make to feel that they’ve ‘exhausted all options’ before ending someone else’s life, it wouldn’t be the worst thing ever for them.

    • DISPENSER4HIRE

      And the DA would say “So you were not in fear for your life, since you used rubber bullets. Why did you first assault, and then murder the victim?”
      Train. Hit what you aim at. Teach your family to stay out of the line of fire. Anyone entering my home in the middle of the night will be presumed to be an assasin, and dealt with accordingly.

      • Derek Balling

        First, I agree. In my home, dead meat.

        But this actually helps defend against a DA, because you can make the argument that “you used non-lethal force to attempt to stop the perp, that was ineffective, at which point on the third trigger pull, you gave up on non-lethal remedies, and moved to lethal force.”

        If you live in an area where the DA is going to go after you for home-defense, you’re screwed even if you only use lethal force (and should move, ASAP).

      • TIMANN

        Good post, and yes – train properly. There are schools out there who train self defence very well indeed. use realistic targets and create scenarios, most baddies do not wear a bulls-eye or bottles on their shirts.

    • TIMANN

      If you have or might have “regrets” address them NOW, not when in a confrontation! Yes there are all sorts of repercussions but none as bad as bleeding out whilst your wife and kids are raped and slaughtered in front of you. Hesitation or second thoughts at the crucial moment can get you killed. Your mind set is just as important as a gun, if you do NOT have a survival mindset then you will lose.

  • Random E

    Use a shotgun. You can load non-lethal as your first round and regular game shot in the magazine. That way if you have to fire the gun, you don’t have to worry about killing anyone, and the intruder should have sufficient motivation to back down and/or leave. If they don’t. Then you are sufficient armed for the situation. Game shot will diffidently incapacitate any attacker. It requires less precise aim, which could be critical to defending yourself under stress. Just as important – you don’t have have to worry about a stray round injuring a neighbor

    • Bob666

      Not a bad idea.

    • Wellarmed

      Agreed with the game rounds in close quarters, but they can be just as lethal as XX. Main reason to use game load is to prevent the round from piercing wall and killing innocents. I still back up the last 5 rounds in the tube with XX in the event the dove rounds don’t accomplish their purpose.

      Surefire makes and very well thought out forward hand grip with an integrated tactical light. KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SHOOTING AT before you fire your weapon! I also carry a separate hand held light as I do not prefer to flood target with muzzle inline with body. Target acquisition for the bad guy is very easy given that scenario. Use bursts of light and do not remain stationary.

  • Dragon 1

    A friend of mine sent me an e-mail here awhile back that was very interesting. The article said to get a can of hornet and wasp spray, when aimed at an intruder you can be up to 20 feet away and cause whom ever is in your home some serious problems. Aim for the face and mouth, it will cause him to have to seek medical attention because it is a poision and it will make him extremely sick. At least with the hornet spray you don’t have to have a permit to carry it with you. You can put a can in the house bedroom,garage or keep one in your car, Now as for me I would shoot first and ask questions later, if I killed the intruder- well he was in the wrong place anyway One reason that idiot knotheads like that are afraid to break into anyone’s home is because they might get shot for their trouble. go get some training and you will be prepared for that situation whatever the out come.
    . I am not afraid to shoot anyone that comes into my house that should not be there. Damn the bad luck !!

    • john

      A jacket or sleeve can ward off the spray.Don’t bring a bicycle to a motorcycle race.They want your life,defend it with the right tool,real bullets.

  • TPM

    If someone(s) breaks into your house and advances toward your family, you run a risk of the good guys losing BIG, with the author’s clever ideas. I can’t believe Bates suggested that you … “Grab a table lamp and threaten them?”
    Yeah, go ahead and follow that advice. We’ll see you in the obits.
    Perhaps the author would arm Homeland Security and the FBI with table lamps …

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.burns.733450 Patriotic Viet Vet

    There is no OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN if someone breaks in. If you can’t bring yourself to do that ,sorry , wrong place wrong time. Finger never on trigger until

    ready to destroy your target.
    I am suprised you didnt say fire two shots in the air.
    Someone does not break into your house for a cup of coffee.

  • hippybiker

    I am a disabled person who habitually carries a handgun. If you try break in my house, I will shoot to stop the threat.

    • Wellarmed

      first time I have heard the proper answer. Bravo!

  • K.D.

    A tazer will leave the intruder incapacitated for 30 seconds, during which time you can use pepper spray in the intruder’s face, which will incapacitate him for 30 minutes and leave distinguishing marks as well. I doubt if his friends will come after you knowing they could get the same treatment. Criminals like to pick easy targets.

    • john

      Cons practice against pepper spray and tazers to build up immunity and they are prepping for your “non lethal” response.Know your enemy and be serious,they want your blood.

      • Bill Henry

        Only one answer two to the torso one to the head. Practice practice practice. It that don’t stop him, then do it again. Practice practice practice. Depending on your magazine you should have from 4-9 rounds left. Practice, practice, practice. No substitute for it. That and having your mind made up to deal with the situation, after all the guy probably didn’t just stop by to introduce himself, especially if he breaks down a door or comes in through a window.

        • TIMANN

          And RELOAD a full fresh magazine as soon as it is safe to do so!

          • Wellarmed

            Agreed TIMANN. No one should be counting bullets during a fire fight. Have at least two if not more extra magazines and a back up gun. Reloads should be practiced in the pitch dark until it becomes muscle memory.

    • Michael Shreve

      You have EXCESSIVE faith in NON-lethal measures.

    • TIMANN

      KD: Just hope they are not wearing a heavy jacket etc like in winter…or body armour. Tazers are not death rays or star trek guns…..and you CAN miss just as easily but with say a Glock is way easier to reload and re-acquire the target. Have you attended a Tazer course by any chance?? You arevtaking too many chances as whilst you are busy doing al you describe a “friend” may well be on top of you. Read again what you said you would do – TIME???

      • Wellarmed

        Agreed with your concerns on Tazers. I am not a big fan of them and many departments have stopped using them due to the high number of casualties. If I were required to use one then I would do so with no illusion that it’s use could prove to be fatal. At the point that you believe your life or a member of your families life is in danger, then anything less than deadly force is one heck of a gamble in my opinion.

        During my CCW class the instructor made a point to show many hours of dash cam video in which the officer contributed to their own demise. Two and a half hours of watching and breaking down what went wrong, there were many people in tears and near to vomiting in bags after all was said and done, but I think it was necessary for most to see how truly chaotic and short these events really are. Response needs to be automatic (muscle memory) as when the SHTF there is no time to think, only react.

  • exbuckeye

    Been there. Waiting and waiting (interminably) for the cops I FINALLY had to
    use my gun after the 3rd assault on my person trying to break my neck – I shot.
    Wounded him seriously. At 33 minutes, (my wife was on the phone all that time trying to get help), the cops finally showed up. I was treated like the criminal,
    the drugged up drunken intruder was the victim. At the hospital he was found
    to be on cocaine and had a .21 blood alcohol level. Also positive for steroids..

    The states attorney was going to charge me with 1st deg murder if he died. He
    didnt and came back with a friend a year and a half later and shot the crap out
    of our house trying to kill us in our bedroom. Cops never investigated that
    incident at all. Refused to take the lisence nbr from a neighbor (watching TV)
    who heard the shooting and came out on their front porch, saw them get in the
    truck and drive off. Cops wouldnt even talk to him.

    Turned out he was a drug informant, sold as well as used but he informed so
    to the “system” he was a good guy!!

    Even later he sued for 7.5 Million dollars (He lost but it put us thru he!! for 4
    years of harassing phone calls and threats!)

    Yeah maybe its better to finish ‘em off up front!!

    • Right Brain Thinker

      I don’t want to insult you, Buckeye, but this sounds too much like a movie script. Or the kind of horsepucky that gets endlessly circulated on the websites of the circular firing squad and parroted as truth. CJ Grisham was bold enough to post a video about his “adventures” with the Temple TX police. Can you give us some sources that we can go to and learn more?—-it sounds like it should have made the papers there, and I want to know where NOT to move to if it’s true.

      • Jeff

        How much would you wager “exbuckeye” ain’t the most popular guy in the neighborhood? Remember the “creepy” house on the block when you were a kid? I think I know who lives there.

    • Jamest

      Even if you shoot the intruder dead, you would still possibly have to deal with being sued by their family members.

      • Jimmy the Greek

        Not if you dont report it and clean up your own mess .

        • Roth Ofzion

          That would turn justafiable homocide or “self defense” into a whole host of crimes that will land you in prison even though you had legal cover for using lethal force in the first place. Conspiracy to conceal a crime often gets a conviction when the original charge fails. Most people get into trouble because they outsmart themself.

          • burtfisher

            Which “crime” are you talking about here? Do you mean the original assault by the (now) dead guy? We can forgive him for that. And since my self-defense is NOT a crime, there is nothing to report. Ergo, ipso facto, habeas corpus, poof, one less bad guy.

      • Carl Stevenson

        Depends on state law. Here in PA our castle doctrine law indemnities you against civil liability,and creates a legal presumption that the bad guy is a mortal threat, which justifies use of deadly force.
        (I am not a layer and this is not legal advice. I am simply relating what I know about the law as one who worked to get it passed.)

  • john

    you must assume the worst,lethal force doesn’t always work,much less “non lethal”force The story yesterday of a perp trying to kill a cop and being shot 6 times in what would eventually kill someone but he kept on coming and the cop finally killed him with a three shot volley to his head.Now the cop carries 145 rounds as he was almost through 45 that he had on him.Guns are not magic.Carry all the spare full capacity mags you can is the lesson.Story is on the JPFO web site.

    • Michael Shreve

      IF it took nearly 45 rounds, there better be more to the story.

    • TIMANN

      If you haven’t solved it with 15 rounds then your day will end badly. The cop was woefully trained, after two shots the body is in shock so more shots are pointless – and anyway you may NOT be penetrating the body or striking vital organs. The first two shots to center mass are warning shots, the stopper is a head shot. Agree always carry at least two spare mags and practice tactical shooting not plinking away (and taking forever) on bulls eye targets at a range.

  • dan

    First round in the shotgun should be ROCKSALT….that’s all the warning a ‘critter’ should need…but the last thing you should feel is guilt for the boundary challenged.

    • Michael

      Wrong response Dan – the first round is high brass #2 from a legal pump shotgun. The next 4 are more of the same.

      • coalminer

        Good reponse,
        Michael.
        Home invaders deserve to be shot and with lethal results.

      • http://www.facebook.com/george.maser George Maser

        Yep… But do too the resent high cost of ammo, I can no longer afford a warning shot! So sorry in advance to any intruder, for the short track to Hell!!!!! :)

    • TIMANN

      Warning shot is the first round of 00 buck to the torso! Agree there is no need to be sorry for the “boundary challenged” (I like that phrase).

  • dan

    …but I should disclose that I only keep pistols at hand and they’re loaded with man stopping ammo with extra mags…but after the first muzzel flash in the dark,you’re shooting blind…..I should bring in the shotgun for next to the bed.

    • Wellarmed

      You should never be shooting at an unlit target. Get a surefire or other suitable handheld tactical light. Blind them first and evaluate your target BEFORE firing your weapon. The fact that you shot without attempting to evaluate the threat will come up at your trial. CYA.

  • exbuckeye

    An additional point should be made. In THIS DAY AND AGE, it is HIGHLY likely
    that -any- intruder will be on some sort of drug. Drugs inure a person to pain
    one even two shots most likely wont stop them unless placed in the kill zone..

    That was the problem the army had with the Moros in the Phillippine insurrections
    in the early 1900’s. All 6 rounds from their 38 cal revolvers DIDNT STOP attakers!
    All 6 rounds and they kept right on cpming. Thats why the army went back to the
    older 45 cal SAA army of the 1880’s. Even then it took 6!

    My intruder (previous comment) was shot diagonally from the floor up thru his
    torso with a LFN 45 SAA round. Took out part of his liver, part of his stomach,
    perforated his diapraghm, and destroyed one third of his left lung (breathing
    definitely impaired).He never made a sound,nor any outward evidence he was
    “bothered”. He remained on his feet and walked out to his car some 90 feet
    from my living room. And he.was still standing some 13 minutes later when the
    cops finally arrived.

    Truth be told, I wouldnt count on any non lethal round.

    • T.J. Liberty

      And so many think just because a person is shot, it’s over.
      This is the scary part about magazine limits.
      If you have to be in a gun fight, who can set limits.
      Not the ones fighting! Only the ones watching or cleaning up!
      Good post

  • Robert L. Rice

    MY guns are loaded with the first 2 rounds (bullets) being SNAKE SHOT,the rest are wadcutters,if the first 2 dont stop him or her,the rest of them will definately eliminate the threat..

  • XSFG

    You may enter in on your feet but you’ll leave on your back. If your not torn to pieces by my GSD’s, you’ll be shot, until we are satisfied that you are now departed from this world. Mercy ends once your on the wrong side of the door!

    • Testa Sterone

      Yes! And don’t forget – that door they just kicked in wasn’t there for your safety only!

  • By George

    We’ve been changed into a nation of (expletive deleted). We can’t make a life or death decision withou a lawyer present. A gun is a tool. The rules are easy and should be known in advance. If you pull a gun) out, then you had better use it or you may find that a team of surgeons will labor for hours removing it from your rectum. Second. If you do use a gun, just ask is it morally and legally justified? Example: Police officer do not normally shoot at fleeing stolen cars because laws concerning car thief’s do not mandate a death penalty. A car can be replaced by insurance after all and so there is no justification, legally or morally for shooting a car theif. If he shoots at you however, then all bets are off.

    So, if you want a to have a gun, then learn it, handle it, shoot it often at the range and get to know it, and don’t clutter your mind with the wax bullet B.S. Your first mission is to defend hearth and home. Let others worry about how to get the carcus out of your house. I do like the shotgun however. I recommend the “Night Court Judge” .410 ga shotgun pistol. It shoots .45 cal as well.

    • Jimmy the Greek

      I know for sure you dont live in Texas lol

  • jims-blog

    If your in my home uninvited and the dog didn’t finish you off, I’m more than “HAPPY” to “FINISH” you off. Semper Fi

  • CatGman

    My children are grown and out of the house. They both have keys to enter my home.
    they have been informed to NEVER come into the house without calling first no matter what the hour. If someone comes into my house, the first thing they will meet is my dog. If he does not persuade them to leave, they will leave in a bag.

  • Motov

    I will without a doubt use lethal force on the suspect, Reason being there will be just my side of the story (That would save me from lawsuits filed by the criminal)
    And the fact I don’t know what intentions he has entering my place.
    It is either me or him. Assume the worst and play that way to be sure.
    That’s the risk the criminal chooses if he enters my place.

    • Testa Sterone

      Sorry, Motov! But you are not insulated from lawsuits just because you killed the intruder. You still have to deal with the family who never saw such a good person in their lives as their son/daughter/husband etc who was loved deeply by everybody and will be sorely missed by all those he helped. And you just know some g_d damn lawyer will make sure that the family remembers what their offensive line of attack is going to be. Try defending yourself against that, an activist judge and a liberal jury!!! But you are right – make sure that it’s only your side of the story that gets told.

      • Motov

        Yeah, but I think my chances improve with just my side of the story than having the bastard lie why he entered my place @ 2:00 am, or why he used a crowbar instead of a key, or why he smashed in my window. I know it is always a chance that some hot shot lawyer will do anything to get his grubby hands on big bucks,.. but like they say you cannot get blood from a stone, I’m on a fixed income, and you better believe I’ll use the fact that I am disabled, and try to make it look like these idiots are the bad guys to public opinion

        • Bob666

          Yo Motov,
          If you have any assets what so ever-there will be a lawsuit and it will cost you. The question is-how much?

          • Motov

            I live in poverty, no car, my assets are not worth getting.
            Even my medications are not worth getting, unless you think dyskinesia is a ball of fun, Probably the most expensive thing I have here is my (Trek) bike. If someone thinks I have anything worth stealing, they are sadly mistaken, So if someone does break in I’m assuming they are after me.

          • Bob666

            Yo Motov,
            Then all I can say is; happy hunting.

          • TIMANN

            Bob, it’s simple, get insurance BEFORE you shoot someone, after the event may prove difficult. Every round fired is $65,000 legal bill so insurance really IS a necessary. Better to have and not need etc.

  • retirednavy

    These
    harmless defense alternatives were designed to stop people who had not intent
    ot inflict bodily harm. A person
    entering a home or business with a loaded weapon will use it if confronted with
    endangerment of themselves, self preservation over intention. Rubber bullets or
    lead. Using this type of passive weapon will
    get you killed. Even with real bullets victims’ have been injured or killed
    after a perpetrator has been shot multiple times. I agree don’t point a weapon at
    anything if not ready or willing to use
    it. The greatest danger is when the police arrive more scared than you are with you sill with a weapon in your hand and prosecutors
    and presidents ready to make a name for themselves for election points

  • nemo

    Frank: have been a citizen and LEO in Detroit. Mich. has a misd. B&E law almost never used by the felony court because the felony court (e.g. Detroit Recorders) wanted fel. stats! The academy pointed out in law class the law was to be used for the disoriented/drunk/juvenile et al. that broke or stumbled into a bg and fell asleep or whatever. Also: a real bad guy knows (duh) where you live and may have family, accomplices (like a wheelman), “people” etc who know where you live too! Who would be angrier w/you and more or less likely to hurt you (not a rhetorical ?): a perp. you wounded, whether superficially, v. blinded, maimed, paralyzed etc., or one who met expedient demise, intentional or not? At least in the latter case one less survivor remains to bear you ill will! In your 8th para., supra, who are the they in “They say?”…”some people?”

  • WTS/JAY

    Depends on the situation, or the intruder, i would think. One would have to quickly assess the situation to determine if lethal force is necessary, or not. Hard to say…one thing’s for sure, it would be most unfortunate to overreact, only to find out later that it wasn’t necessary. But i speak as one who has never had to deal with a home invasion. Could be because i own a couple of dogs and keep my house well secured…who knows?

  • Wellarmed

    Overall interesting article, and questions to ponder. But i must say the only place these less lethal rounds make sense is where the citizens need them most. Those with carry cards should be allowed to carry their primary weapon on aircraft with additional training and frangible rounds. Some have referred to them as supper-carry cards. No exempted places in exchange for significant additional ongoing training.

  • zanch

    I’ve heard of intruders suing the home owner… I’d rather shoot to kill and deal with a dead intruder then a live one.

  • zanch

    I’m sorry, but I rather spend a few years in prison (Which I shouldn’t) for shooting first and asking questions later then spending eternity in the grave for asking the questions first and getting shot in the face right after.

  • JeffH

    The key to this issue is being able to assess the threat and react…in my opinion.

    Of all the avail­able home defense weapons, the most effec­tive one is your brain. No mat­ter what type of home defense weapon you use, you have to be able to think tac­ti­cally. This kind of think­ing goes beyond the usu­al point and shoot reac­tion .

    You can resist an assault; comply with all commands; or you can try to stay calm, wait, and resist, comply, or flee as the scenario evolves. One thing is clear, there is no one single correct response to a life-threatening home invasion scenario. The choice is personal, based on your own assessment of your physical and mental capabilities and your belief as to the level of eminent danger.

    Having a family or neighborhood plan is essential. If you develop a home security plan and talk about it with your family and neighbors, the chances of acting appropriately and getting help are greatly improved.

    You have the legal right to use deadly force to defend your place, and any other innocent persons legally inside it, from violent attack or an intrusion which may lead to violent attack. In a legal context, therefore, use of deadly force which actually results in death may be defended as justifiable homicide under the Castle Doctrine.

    Don’t fight over property loss, it can be replaced…your life cannot and always remember that once you decide you have no other choice but to shoot the assailant …shoot to kill.

    Oh, and remeber that the pressure cooker did it!

    ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM.

    ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.

    Join the NRA, GOA, SAF and the rest of us in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT

    STOP IT

    STOP IT NOW

    • TIMANN

      Well said!

  • Rich

    Since the goverment, particularly the IRS, feels that they have a right to read your emails, by giving your opinion on what you would do in the event of a home invasion, aren’t you effectilvely participating in gun “registration?” By stating publicly what you would do tells them precisely who has and who does not have a gun in their home.

    • TIMANN

      Well these sites will be monitored so saying you WILL shoot to kill is really not clever. You shoot to stop the threat, death is a by-product of being shot and when you shoot you have no control over what that bullet does when it strikes – or misses!

  • Art

    I am 77 with heart problems, sciatica in my back. I will not question or hesitate to shoot an intruder. Non lethal bullets is dumb. How do you know if it is just one or 4 intruders. I practice at least once a month pulling my weapon out of a bed side holster, and having my wife get to a safe room and call 911, after locking the door. I also use a light that will disorientate a person too. But if they keep coming, I will shoot to stop, not disable. I am also glad I live in Georgia, who not only the state, but our local city and county sheriff are backer of our 2nd Amendment. They also run a police academy for the residence. It is a 10 week course that goes into every thing including range time. They give you a shirt with their emblem, and a certificate when completed. They also let you ride with an officer anytime.

  • Marvin

    I don’t know if you have ever shot someone or not but take it from experience it”s not pleasant.You see the bullet him your target and watch his eyes drain outof life,but when you got back to base it was you getting something to eat and your buddy being able to write his Mom again.Yea it’s hard but just because it”s hard doesn’t mean you can come to home and hurt my family.NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!

  • spector_css

    The thing about less than lethal weapons and ammo is that it will generally only stun the target. Cops use such as a means to control individuals that are typically unarmed. Cops also usually have others around them that have lethal means at the ready. Since the less than lethal weapons are ment to stun a person, the intruder may be able to still fire a weapon. A person wounded by a “real” bullet can still fire a weapon. With this in mind, I plan to use the most powerful close quarter weapon I own on any intruder – 12ga pump, loaded with buckshot. I don’t want the target to have even a slight chance to harm anyone in my home. So I plan to shoot any would be intruder multiple times. In your example of a teenager trying to “prove himself to his friends” , at my house he will likely prove to them that if you break into a house you may die there. As far as a mentally challenged person is concerned, I’m not. Concidering that any intruder would have forced his way into my home, I plan to use force (lethal) against any intruder. I’m not willing to risk the lives and well-being of myself or my family on the intentions of anyone that has forced thier way into my home. In a close-quarter situation, there will be no time for evaluation of the intruder. To hessitate may cost you the advantage and potentially your life and the lives of your family.
    Thank God I live in a state that isn’t totally screwed-up by politically correctness. The worst thing that would happen there if an intruder is killed in a home is the cleaning bill for the mess. I understand it can cost a few thousand dollars.

  • Marsha

    On Frank Bates posting, it well done. Everyone, owner of firearms, hammers, axes and knives should think what to do to protect your home.and family. I could not and will not tell anyone to shoot first and ask questions later. I am an owner of firearms safely stashed away and have been well versed in weapons. I have been a correctional officer in a men’s medium security prison, an investigator for a state Parole Commission interviewing criminals ( murderers to felony theft) , writing recommendation for length of sentence to serve, a parole officer in Houston’s 3rd, 4th.and 5th wards and retired from Texas CPS as an investigator & child placement specialist. I have seen the the good in people and hate in people. I have learned to analyze the problem fast and then react. I am capable of shooting someone to wound or die.

    As Frank states in his article, depending on the situation an owner of firearms should decide before something awful happens to know what they are be capable of. Oh, did I tell you that I am 5’2, about 132 lbs. and 76 years old white female from the Pacific NW and a transplant to Texas? I am probably also Franks only Democrat who follows his articles but read his material because it is well thought out and presented with NO discrimination of color , creed , sex or age . I even agree with him sometimes ! Frank, keep up the good work.

    Marsha

  • Armed becaue I have to

    Frank mentioned in his article the possibility of a “large man” not being stopped by non lethal means. Frank may not have had the displeasure of facing down a PCP, Meth or Crack crazed individual in the home looking to feed his or her habit. Most trained law enforcement individuals dread facing these individuals because there is no guarantee that any non lethal method is going to even phase them in the slightest. In some cases even several well placed live lethal rounds were not enough to prevent injury to the innocent victum.

  • pmonly

    I am a disabled nana. I can walk for a short distance but I can not run. If any one comes in my house, day or night , who doesn’t belong here I will use live rounds. I live in a rural area and since we’ve been getting a lot of transplants from another state in this area there have been multiple home invasions that have happened. I always have a loaded weapon within an inch of my hand if I’m home alone. If I’m not alone it’s not much further away.

    • TIMANN

      Good for you! Those anti gun nuts that say run away or call the cops need a reality check.

  • retired lawman

    Everyone who thinks he or she might get into a “combat situation” with an unwelcome intruder in the home or business is a hazard. There are cases in which a father shoots his own son, thinking he is an intruder. Any person who is convinced he or she would pull the trigger on a human being should know that bullets can ricochet under many conditions, can pass through one person who is a threat, and have enough velocity to pass through an innocent person. A bullet can go through two sheets of sheet rock, and into a room where your spouse is, or where your children are; or it can pass through a window and then through a window in a neighbor’s house, or out into the street where an innocent person may be.

    Only very thorough TRAINING can optimize a person’s tendencies to do something totally stupid. And even trained police officers and military combatants sometimes kill someone unintentionally by “friendly fire.”

    It’s true that you should never point a gun at anybody if you are not WILLING to use it, because you put the other person in position of having, or perceiving he has, a reason to shoot you to keep from getting shot.

    When you’re adrenaline is pumping, and you are in fear, and things happen fast, you’re likelihood of judging wrongly — and you may have only a fraction of a second to react, which is not enough time to think over anything.

    Unless you have TRAINING to prepare you to make the best-possible instantaneous responses to a situation, your chances of getting it wrong and killing the wrong person are high.

    A small number of gun owners enjoy fantasizing about killing someone, and even look forward in their imagination to “getting a chance to do it.” That kind of thinking could be exactly the kind of thinking that leads to shooting your own kid who is sneaking back into the house after sneaking out, or sending bullets down the street, or through walls or windows where innocent people are.

    And, when and if it happens, even if you are determined innocent, after all is said and done, you’re life will never be quite the same. You’ll suffer a lot of consequences you’d be happier not having to experience.

    Yes, if someone were beating down your front door in the middle of the night, you would be justified in defending your family and yourself. But would you (due to proper and sufficient training) make it a point to fire from an angle in which the bullet passing through that person would be at risk of striking someone innocent? This isn’t about what part of the body to fire at but the angle you would seek to hit that body part from — downward through them if possible, upward from floor level second, or from an angle where the bullet would be stopped by a brick wall or something third.

    Police training has pop up targets that train your split-second instincts not to shoot if it’s an innocent person, but to pull the trigger if indicated.

    Think about this a lot, day by day. Get training in it if you can. Just keep thinking about it. If you wait until the instant you have to react appropriately, you will not have time to think then.

    • TIMANN

      Some very good points there Lawman. You should never shoot at a shadow or silhouette as has been seen on the news with tragic results. If people want to get into combat then they should join the Marines. Anyone fantasising about killing or wanting to kill a perp is booted off our courses at the life-skills-academy. We do not train wannabe hit-men! Yes we train people as you suggest, scenarios, angled shots, split second decisions, small targets etc. I cringe when I see people on a range slowly plinking away and pretending they are training for self defence on a silhouette that suggests an 8 foot high, 500lb attacker.
      Ammo choice is crucial and should be relevant to the home you are in for all the reasons you outline. You do not need a full auto AR and 30 rounds of FMJ for a home defence situation – unless it’s in the movies. Semi auto is safer and consider “shoot through” hazards. Make every bedroom a panic room, that way no one is running about making the situation more confused, make a plan and rehearse it with NO AMMO around!
      Making the home secure is a first step, lights, cameras, no blind spots, decent locks and bolts etc. Bars on windows are not much of a deterrent, they may pose a danger in a fire and they do not deter burglars – whereas the thought of being shot does.
      Training may cost money – but how much is your life worth. Train with people who are better than you. Women, avoid “women only” classes, unless they are say LAPD SWAT – learn to shoot better than a guy – after all, it is likely to be a guy that poses the threat to you and yours.
      Oh and don’t buy those daft womens guns, those tiny micro pistols that guys cannot even operate properly. Buy a gun that you can control and operate proficiently.

  • TIMANN

    Shoot to kill – go to jail! you shoot to stop the threat always, even if it means a head shot. never shoot in the dark, how can you aim? get insurance for armed defence and a good lawyer, have them on 1&2 on speed dial! Oh and get TRAINED and join the NRA! I am fed up reading about people firing numerous shots and the intruder fled!

  • Carl Stevenson

    Lead works best. Rubber bullets suck.
    Eliminate the threat, don’t hesitate, don’t regret.
    The bad guys will kill you and/or your family without a second thought.
    Don’t give them the opportunity.

  • Native Blood

    1) Pitbulls or German Shepherds
    2) Netting with treble hooks
    3) Muratic Acid splash
    4) Bow and Arrow with splintered end
    5) Machete with dull blade
    6) Rock salt .410 shells
    7) tangle foot barbed wire
    8) throwing stars
    9) Roman candle
    10) Big leather whip

  • jc

    If killing the invader is a problem, use 2 non-lethal bullets in the mag and fill the rest with live ones.

  • Rick N.

    Nothing in our laws or constitution gives you the right to end a person’s life — regardless of what they are doing.
    1. You have a right to protect yourself/family and other innocent persons against a threat.
    2. While protecting yourself/family/persons, you have the right to use force against the threat.
    3. IF the threat is great enough, you have the right to use “lethal force”. This means a force great enough to cause death. It does not imply that death is the expected or desired outcome.
    4. If you use force (lethal or otherwise) against an intruder, and have alleviated the threat, you no longer have any reason, or right, to continue using force against the intruder.

    For all you vigilanties who would continue pumping lead into an intruder just “to make sure he’s dead”, do not fancy yourself to be “a law-abiding citizen”. Do not claim to uphold the constitution (which guarantees due process). Do not claim to share the values of a society governed by rule of law. And do not be surprised when you get charged with manslaughter or murder.

    • Old Wolf

      “In debating the Fourteenth Amendment, the 39th Congress referred to the right to keep and bear arms as a fundamental right deserving of protection. Senator Samuel Pomeroy described three “indispensable” “safeguards of liberty under our form of Government.” 39th Cong. Globe 1182. One of these, he said, was the right to keep and bear arms:

      “Every man … should have the right to bear arms for the defense of himself and family and his homestead. And if the cabin door of the freedman is broken open and the intruder enters for purposes as vile as were known to slavery, then should a well-loaded musket be in the hand of the occupant to send the polluted wretch to another world, where his wretchedness will forever remain complete.” Ibid.” McDonald V. Chicago.

      “[Beard] was not obliged to retreat, nor to consider whether he could safely retreat, but was entitled to stand his ground, and meet any attack upon him with a deadly weapon, in such a way and with such force as, under all the circumstances, he, at the moment, honestly believed, and had reasonable grounds to believe, were necessary to save his own life, or to protect himself from great bodily injury. ” D. Beard v. United States
      Also in same case, no duty to retreat before using deadly force.

      “”The defendant was where he had a right to be when the deceased
      advanced upon him in a threatening manner and with a deadly weapon, and, if the accused did not provoke the assault, and had at the time
      reasonable grounds to believe, and in good faith believed, that the
      deceased intended to take his life or to do him great bodily harm, he
      was not obliged to retreat, nor to consider whether he could safely
      retreat, but was entitled to stand his ground and meet any attack made
      upon him with a deadly weapon in such a way and with such force as,
      under all the circumstances, he at the moment honestly believed and had
      reasonable grounds to believe was necessary to save his own life or to
      protect himself from great bodily injury.” Rowe v. United States.

  • Veteranasm

    Dead men tell no tales, I don’t intend to be the dead man, come in uninvited go out feet first in a bag !!!

  • T.J. Liberty

    The way in which you justify using deadly force:

    In my state the training I received by law enforcement officers at CCW was in their words the high water mark for justification of deadly force.

    Acronym: [ A.I.M. ] Access, Intent, Means.
    Subset: Death, Severe Bodily Injury, Rape, Sodomy, Kidnapping.

    [A] Access to Victim – Within(21 ft) a person can attack (stab, strike, kill) a trained police officer before he can react, draw and discharge his firearm, repel or stop the attacker.

    [I] Intent to Harm – Will the suspect do harm to me or others, is his/her intention criminal?

    [M] Means to Harm – Does the suspect have (physical size and strength), a weapon (car, knife, gun, pencil, push me/them off a cliff , ect…)

    Then I need one of these results: Death, Severe Bodily Injury, Rape, Sodomy, Kidnapping.

    So, with [A.I.M.] all 3 conditions must be met, and will the result be, one of these 5 subset?

    Now reasoning of home intrusions, setting Castle Law aside for now, most robberies take place in the day when people work and criminals don’t want a confrontation. So, in the middle of the night if you hear glass breaking or loud noises, it’s very difficult to conclude anything other than someone whom is unafraid or undeterred.

    You need to secure all 3 conditions of [A.I.M] and 1 of 5 results. You are not justified in using deadly force if someone walks into your house and steals your DVD player, or a catcher in a ball game might have all 3 conditions of [AIM] but not any of the 5 results, a batter may walk up to the catcher with a bat and say We’re gonna kill you tonight, he has Access, Intent and Means but the results are not any of the (5) required to use deadly force.

    So, discharging a weapon in your own home is a very tricky situation and must be considered in advance. Yes, positive ID has to be established, if it’s an unwelcome intruder with nasty intentions then you must be prepared to defend your property (you, wife, kids, home) from the criminals, unless after all this analysis you think he/she might just want a glass of milk?, your call but, unlikely!

    Rounds will travel through (dirt-bag intruder), through walls, out of the house and across the street… down range considerations are essential. It’s not really balance or harmony if you kill a bad guy and a good guy with one round. It may be justified but your probably not going to be invited to any subdivision or neighborhood events.

    Glass Pictures frames have been known to fall from their hooks, drunks have been known to enter the wrong house and kids will do the darnedest things when they think parents are sleeping. However, at my house my wife and I are the only ones to account for, anyone else is an intruder, making sure she is not down range is my first concern after acquiring my weapon of choice (50 cal mini gun) if after making my 3+1 decisions and all return a positive, I then have to decide how and when to actually use deadly force.

    Distance and threat level are most likely going to determine if I pull the trigger. “Freeze !” (21) ft or more and not moving directly at me or my wife is going to gain (dirt-bag intruder) a longer life span. Now at this point it’s no longer my decision, he determines the outcome. Almost any other movement gets him a ride to the morgue. If he moves in a direction other than my safe down range I have no choice but to unload multiple rounds directly at his center of mass. The consequences of doing otherwise are not worth the discussion.

    A side narrative to consider before you get to this critical junction of life and death might go something like this “if this drugged crazed meth headed dirt-bag leaves my house, were from here does he go? Jail if caught?, retaliation?, The single women with 2 kids on the next block?, alone at night, Miss Pruitt 85 years old living alone?, no someone willing to break-in to your home with Intent and Means, only to stop because confronted with a weapon, won’t think twice about another home or victim, maybe his purpose in this life is to be an example to others, of what not to do!
    I truly believe in mercy and justice and have no desire to take a life, but his, mine or theirs, it may factor into your decision making process, because ultimately after you have Justification for use of Deadly Force, you have become the Judge, Jury and Executioner, we have all been these Three, when ever confronted with evil and a choice of life or death.

    I have outlined the method and reasoning I might employ in the best of situations;however, real life situations are seldom if ever this straight forward. The Stand Your Ground Law and Castle Law both have the best of intentions for the good guys, and dire consequences for the suspected bad guys. They can and have been abused, but Castle Law has some very good protections for trained CCW permit holders.

    Not allowing (dirt-bag’s wife) a chance to hire a dirt-bag lawyer to civil sue you after you shoot said dirt-bag, carrying a large tire iron, in your home at 3am. Under Castle Law more than likely the sheriff is going to say good night, then help remove dirt-bag, thank you, and go about his other business. Because you, trained CCW, permit holder are one of the good guys and have no real need to explain other than what happened. He is under my roof, he has met the requirements of [A.I.M] and he is not there at 3am for cookies and milk.
    No charges filed, and no civil laws can be applied. Case closed!

    No one really wants to kill another human being, no one really wants to be killed by another human being. You really only have one last line of defense available for you, your loved ones and those you care about, around you. I chose to think about, prepare and consider now, the outcome of then. Some estimates conclude that more than 2.5 million times a year Americans use weapons to persuade or stop criminals from their illegal behavior.

  • T.J. Liberty

    The way in which you justify using deadly force:

    In my state the training I received by law enforcement officers at CCW was in their words the high water mark for justification of deadly force.

    Acronym: [ A.I.M. ] Access, Intent, Means.
    Subset: Death, Severe Bodily Injury, Rape, Sodomy, Kidnapping.

    [A] Access to Victim – Within(21 ft) a person can attack (stab, strike, kill) a trained police officer before he can react, draw and discharge his firearm, repel or stop the attacker.

    [I] Intent to Harm – Will the suspect do harm to me or others, is his/her intention criminal?

    [M] Means to Harm – Does the suspect have (physical size and strength), a weapon (car, knife, gun, pencil, push me/them off a cliff , ect…)

    Then I need one of these results: Death, Severe Bodily Injury, Rape, Sodomy, Kidnapping.

    So, with [A.I.M.] all 3 conditions must be met, and will the result be, one of these 5 subset?

    Now reasoning of home intrusions, setting Castle Law aside for now, most robberies take place in the day when people work and criminals don’t want a confrontation. So, in the middle of the night if you hear glass breaking or loud noises, it’s very difficult to conclude anything other than someone whom is unafraid or undeterred.

    You need to secure all 3 conditions of [A.I.M] and 1 of 5 results. You are not justified in using deadly force if someone walks into your house and steals your DVD player, or a catcher in a ball game might have all 3 conditions of [AIM] but not any of the 5 results, a batter may walk up to the catcher with a bat and say We’re gonna kill you tonight, he has Access, Intent and Means but the results are not any of the (5) required to use deadly force.

    So, discharging a weapon in your own home is a very tricky situation and must be considered in advance. Yes, positive ID has to be established, if it’s an unwelcome intruder with nasty intentions then you must be prepared to defend your property (you, wife, kids, home) from the criminals, unless after all this analysis you think he/she might just want a glass of milk?, your call but, unlikely!

    Rounds will travel through (dirt-bag intruder), through walls, out of the house and across the street… down range considerations are essential. It’s not really balance or harmony if you kill a bad guy and a good guy with one round. It may be justified but your probably not going to be invited to any subdivision or neighborhood events.

    Glass Pictures frames have been known to fall from their hooks, drunks have been known to enter the wrong house and kids will do the darnedest things when they think parents are sleeping. However, at my house my wife and I are the only ones to account for, anyone else is an intruder, making sure she is not down range is my first concern after acquiring my weapon of choice (50 cal mini gun) if after making my 3+1 decisions and all return a positive, I then have to decide how and when to actually use deadly force.

    Distance and threat level are most likely going to determine if I pull the trigger. “Freeze !” (21) ft or more and not moving directly at me or my wife is going to gain (dirt-bag intruder) a longer life span. Now at this point it’s no longer my decision, he determines the outcome. Almost any other movement gets him a ride to the morgue. If he moves in a direction other than my safe down range I have no choice but to unload multiple rounds directly at his center of mass. The consequences of doing otherwise are not worth the discussion.

    A side narrative to consider before you get to this critical junction of life and death might go something like this “if this drugged crazed meth headed dirt-bag leaves my house, were from here does he go? Jail if caught?, retaliation?, The single women with 2 kids on the next block?, alone at night, Miss Pruitt 85 years old living alone?, no someone willing to break-in to your home with Intent and Means, only to stop because confronted with a weapon, won’t think twice about another home or victim, maybe his purpose in this life is to be an example to others, of what not to do!
    I truly believe in mercy and justice and have no desire to take a life, but his, mine or theirs, it may factor into your decision making process, because ultimately after you have Justification for use of Deadly Force, you have become the Judge, Jury and Executioner, we have all been these Three, when ever confronted with evil and a choice of life or death.

    I have outlined the method and reasoning I might employ in the best of situations;however, real life situations are seldom if ever this straight forward. The Stand Your Ground Law and Castle Law both have the best of intentions for the good guys, and dire consequences for the suspected bad guys. They can and have been abused, but Castle Law has some very good protections for trained CCW permit holders.

    Not allowing (dirt-bag’s wife) a chance to hire a dirt-bag lawyer to civil sue you after you shoot said dirt-bag, carrying a large tire iron, in your home at 3am. Under Castle Law more than likely the sheriff is going to say good night, then help remove dirt-bag, thank you, and go about his other business. Because you, trained CCW, permit holder are one of the good guys and have no real need to explain other than what happened. He is under my roof, he has met the requirements of [A.I.M] and he is not there at 3am for cookies and milk.
    No charges filed, and no civil laws can be applied. Case closed!

    No one really wants to kill another human being, no one really wants to be killed by another human being. You really only have one last line of defense available for you, your loved ones and those you care about, around you. I chose to think about, prepare and consider now, the outcome of then. Some estimates conclude that more than 2.5 million times a year Americans use weapons to persuade or stop criminals from their illegal behavior.