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How To Survive An Obama Great Depression

July 12, 2012 by  

The economic news is all bad. Why is all this happening? Why is the world economy in free fall? Well, it’s not just Barack Obama’s fault. Or the Democrats’. Or the Republicans’. Or any one party in Europe. It’s the fault of each one. It’s a team effort. It’s the synergy of big government progressives who can never find a dollar to cut in the budget, for fear of offending one group, or one person, or one voter. So spending never gets cut. Wayne Allyn Root explains.

Wayne Allyn Root

Wayne Allyn Root is one of America's leading Libertarian-conservative authors. Wayne's new book is The Murder of the Middle Class Wayne is a Capitalist Evangelist, serial entrepreneur, conservative media commentator, and proud champion of the middle class. He is a former Libertarian vice presidential nominee and Fox News regular. Follow Wayne on Twitter and visit Wayne's web site: www.ROOTforAmerica.com

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  • Michael J.

    WAR,
    Shining a light on the symptoms while ignoring the disease will not help anyone find a cure. Seal Team 6 or it’s equivalent could have put and end to the coming chit storm by crashing the party in Chantilli, but that opportunity has now been lost. And it’s not that and attempt to implement Socialism by short sighted bumblers has failed miserably, But rather that Socialism/Communism is the bait used to lure the support of blind leftist utopians following the Kenyan Pied Piper over the cliff to achieve the globalist real goal of world domination and population reduction.

    • http://gravatar.com/wandamurline wandamurline

      It is our fault for not seeing what the corrupt elists in Washington were doing over the past 30 years and allowing them to continue to stick it to the man….that man being We The People….we should have formed the Tea Parties 30+ years ago and put Constitutional Representation into office and if they did not perform, then vote them out. We have allowed this to happen because we have been happy to ignore what they were doing while we watched baseball, football and had our gadgets to play with. Now, we are all struggling to overcome what they have put into place for decades just to keep our country afloat.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      WAR, an interesting point to be made is that the title of your article is “How To Survive An Obama Great Depression”. You didnt tell us how to survive. Any suggestions?

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        I guess you did say to invest in gold and silver but I don’t think that’s going to work for the vast majority of people. How about some practical tips?

      • JC

        Stock up and prepare…food, water, shelter and lead.

      • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

        7/14/12, The best we can do, Nancy, is remove him from office. BO has all the makings of a tyrant. We couldn’t afford the 1st term, much less a 2nd. The reason he needn’t show @ NAACP is because he already owns them; a sad commentary on people carping about freedom & justice. This may serve as a wake-up call to our young people who, in ’08, thought it was “cool” to vote for BO.

    • KG

      Everybody here IS RESPONSIBLE! We all voted for people who we thought would improve our lives and the country. However, some people voted AGAINST their best interest. And that’s where the problem lies. If people really voted for what helped them personally, then we wouldn’t be in such a shape. Since Roosevelt, our government was put on an entirely different track than what was before. Individual liberty through economic means – by being union. By letting the REAL makers of capitol – the workers – share in the profits of the capitalist. However, the “Christians” didn’t like the fact that these workers were making a good wage because it let them SIN more!!!! Don’t vote to make your preacher happy, vote for what will make you better economically.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        So now you a Socialist/Marxist/ Fascist/Liberal Preacher and your computer is your pulpit.

      • Michael J.

        KG said,
        “Everybody here IS RESPONSIBLE!”

        That’s the same thing that Lenin and Stalin said, isn’t that ironic!
        First they convinced the proletariat that they were responsible for the economic strife that the country was experiencing and would subsequently be required to make sacrifices for the common good.

        The immortal words of Joe Dimaggio comes to mind, “It’s like Deja Vu all over again”

        Pull-eeaze people!!! At least wake-up long enough to see who it is that is killing you.

      • Winddrinker

        KG, that sounds like socialism to me…. We don’t need to “Share” anything! Everyone is given the opportunity to “make their own way.”

        P.S. The “Share” you want to see everyone get, is the opportunity to have a job and work for a “wage.”

      • KG

        WOW! Just like Jack Nicholson said “You want the TRUTH? YOU CAN”T HANDEL THE TRUTH!!!!!

      • Michael J.

        KG,
        I would most definately like to read what you think the truth is. I’m all eyes waiting for your reply.

      • DaveH

        You want truth, KG? Here is the truth. We have become a society of criminals lusting after the possessions of others and trying to obtain them using the Government to enforce our immorality. Big Government is more than happy to pretend to satisfy our lust for other peoples’ money, but in reality they are simply playing on our lack of morality to grow their power and perks.
        The only truly fair society is one with strict property rights, voluntary trade, and Government absence in the marketplace except to enforce against fraudulent activities. The voluntary part precludes the Unions who gain their money through coercion and the force of Government.
        http://mises.org/daily/4125

      • DaveH

        And for those who want to work to restore our Free Choice when it comes to joining Unions:
        http://www.righttoworkcommittee.org/NRTWA_Video.aspx?pid=hf03

    • Martin Stewart

      So what I’m hearing is our tax dollars should be used to pay the debt. created by the corporate own Republicans and their extremist tea party wackos! The people should not get anything for their taxes! All the money to go to creating a peasant class that has no way out no rights putb in internment camps after being driven into poverty by the corporations! By electing corporate owned politicians we let the corporations make the rules and basically turn 99% of the people into slaves, you think it’s bad now wait to see the mistake the Romney holocaust has planned for you! (I recommend do a more open and thorough investigation you need real news sources starting with who’s doing what in congress!) This theory of yours is blinded by prejudiced and misinformation why do you ignore what’s right in front of your face? Just follow the money! Who gained the most from 911? I’m an employer and when I pay people I expect them to do what I ask ALL of the Republicans are sponsored by the most corrupt and evil people in the world! does it take a 2×4 along side the head? These media sensationalists are just that sell crap no different than the inquirer!
      Right now the republicans are no different than the Talliban!
      When was the last time the republican congress did anything that would help Americans
      all I’ve seen that wasn’t filibustered was laws to take away our freedoms and billions spent to build Spy buildings, Hire the HLS gestapo the intimidate and kill us when the time is right, Laws to protect senators, not 1 law to help the economy but everything to line theirs and their bosses pockets, you and your children will need more than god to help you if the Romney regime lies steels cheats no matter what criminal deed they need to do to complete THE NEW WORLD ORDER “Bush senior quote” Bush junior quote”If they knew what we are doing to them they’d hang us!
      Smartest thing he ever said!
      Obama has no power it’s all being directed by bribery and threats! As Ventura says he’s been taken to the wood shed!

      • Winddrinker

        Martin, where have you been in the last four years! The demonrats have total control of the country and if you don’t like what is going on, try blaming them, they are the ones destroying this country!

      • Power To The People

        Only wacko on this site is you dude!

      • revnowwhilewecan

        Martin,
        If you don’t think the democrats have any NWO members that are bougt and paid for by the corporations then you are only half awake. BTW, there are a couple of tiers above the corporations. The ones who print the money and the ones who OWN the money that is printed.

      • NoteToSelf

        To Martin’s statement “So what I’m hearing is our tax dollars should be used to pay the debt. created by the corporate own Republicans and their extremist tea party wackos! The people should not get anything for their taxes! All the money to go to creating a peasant class”. I’d say no, just pay down the debt at a rate “a little” faster than the mandatory interest payments right now, then use the rest of the revenue up to the last dollar to keep as much of the social welfare, medical welfare, infrastructure stimulus programs as you can with what money is left. Make equal cuts in entitlements, military spending (mainly the overseas fraction, not here) that would cause the spending to go over budget until we are no longer adding to the debt with the spending. The biggest emphasis is on balancing the budget through spending cuts and then once that is done maybe increase taxes if you think it will increase revenue. (Whether raising taxes and government spending stimulates the economy and increases revenue, or lowering taxes stimulates the economy and increases revenue is immaterial to me. I personally don’t think its a good goal to forever try to provide the government “more” revenue. It will always need “more” revenue than it has, but shouldn’t be permitted to have it, but that’s my personal opinion.) Anyway, by cutting spending to be in budget we are “not” spending every dollar of tax money on paying down the debt – in fact we would pay just a little more than we are paying now on debt interest to slowly pay down the debt. The key is not adding to the debt by not spending money the government doesn’t have. If the government continues to run deficits bond buyers will eventually want higher interest rates and guess what happens then? The interest payments we are paying now will go up and we could end up paying double or triple what we are paying now for interest, and still not be paying down the debt, and that would leave that much less money in the budget to spend on entitlements, infrastructure, and militarism, so cutting to balance is critical. (PS. Raising the taxes to whatever old number you want still wouldn’t balance the budget, at most a fraction of it.) I hope that clarifies what I would consider the position of the most fiscally conservative tea party wacko here – not necessarily the position of corporate owned Republicans or Democrats.

      • jdangiel

        That’s some SERIOUS kool-aid!

      • http://www.facebook.com/david.a.deal David A Deal

        Amen Brother Martin! These right wing fools can’t see how badly they’ve been duped by the Trickle Down Voodoo Economics and it’s disastrous effects heaping ever more wealth upon the wealthy while the rest of us beg and scrounge for scraps as the fat cats sit on high screaming class Warfare while they pay some of the lowest taxes in history.,The result can be either soaring debt or dwindling purchasing power of the masses who ARE the job creators when they create demand. OR more likely both as it nears the tipping point as it did prior to the Great Depression. FDR saved us by taxing the rich insanely but it restored sanity and shrunk the gap between us and them and all was good until Reagan and GW slashed taxes on the wealthy, CEO pay spiraled upward at many times the rate of worker’s pay, and now the wealthy and their Corporations sit on RECORD amounts of CASH. Then shockingly the fiscal Anti-christ Romney appears with his multitudes of offshore secretive trust funds. In 2010 he made (the best we can tell) $23MILLION while in HIS WORDS being UNEMPLOYED!

      • Matrix

        Martin

        Is your real name Keith Olbermann?

        You are living proof that liberalism is a terrible mental disorder!

      • JC

        Martin Stewart says:
        July 12, 2012 at 10:03 am
        “So what I’m hearing is our tax dollars should be used to pay the debt. created by the corporate own Republicans and their extremist tea party wackos! ”

        WTF are you on? The “debt” is created everytime the government (any government)
        takes a loan from the Fraudulaent Reserve. You’re tax dollars go directly to the “interest” on those loans…which are imaginary money out of thin air. And it’s been that way since 1913.
        You’re obviously just another hate filled Liberal who hasn’t got a clue how things really work.

    • truesoy

      Michael J;

      It is often that I hear from the likes of you about Obama’s socialist/communist agenda, but with no specifics from you it only makes me wonder if you are just ‘parroting’ what you hear others say (Fox, Rush, etc).
      Any independent thinking of your own will be greatly appreciated, specially if you mention the specifics.

      Sincerely,
      Truesoy

      • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

        7/16/12, Hello true, perhaps you’re oblivious to BO’s disastrous economic policies. Everything from energy to healthcare to taxes are contrary to the best interests of the nation. His latest gambit is to buy off welfare recipients by lifting the job search requirement. By executive fiat, he modifies the alien problem (16/30) to buy off the Latins. You need ID to go everywhere; all kinds of stuff just to go to the DMV–the same ones you went to for umpteen years; suddenly (since 9/11) they don’t know who you are. But to vote, oh no, you shouldn’t be required to produce valid ID. How bizarre is that? BO has nothing to run on. So, he has to resort to such tactics. …….always a pleasure, true, :{>

        • JOSEPH FOSTER

          A sad state of affair we are gradually losing our freedom. More regulations, I agree with your comments, this was not the kind of America I knew in the past.

          • truesoy

            jfoster;

            i do often hear coservatives whine about ‘we are losting our freedom’ and Obama’s disastroues economic policies, and ‘more regulations’, yet I don’t here specifics.
            Would you care to tell me what regulations are you guys talking about, and could you be specifis, too, as to what other economic policies ae disastrous?.
            I hope this is not too much to ask for.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            7/18/12, Jos, unlike me, who despised BO from day1, this may be what it takes to shock these young people into reality: “you didn’t make it by yourself; want to keep more of what you earn? You’re selfish.”

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            7/28/12, Try telling that to “trusoy.” He lives on the gov’t tit.

          • truesoy

            pweiters9;

            Actually we have now less regulations than we did in the 80′s, and this is why many economists feel this is the cause of our present economic problem. Because lack of sufficient and effective regulations in the financial industry gave us the financial meltdown. Corporations were allowed to get so big they were becoming a monopoly.
            Americans have for the longest time, ever since the 1800s, frowned upon the idea of monopolies.
            This gave way to to the enactment of the ‘Sherman act of 1890′ in response to the unregulated growth of Union Pacific into a virtual monopoly that although brought many bebefits to the farmers, it did so at price. The people demanded action, and so the ‘Sherman Act’ was born.
            In 1902 the U.S. invoked the Act to take control and forced the break up of Union Pacific Railroad. I’m sure if Obama was to do that to any of our financial monopolies,he’ll be branded a ‘communist’ and ‘unamerican’ by today’s republicans and libertarians. Boy, we’ve sure ome a long way, having we?
            In 1904, under the Sherman Act provisions, the U.S. government also move to break up two securities and finance companies. Can You imagine if Obama did that to AIG, what would they/you say about him?.
            In 1911, under the provisions of the Sherman Act, again, the U.S. government nationalized Standard Oil of New Jersey, and broke it into 4 or 5 independent and separate companies.
            I can only imagine what would you/they say if Obama was to do the same to the oil monopolies of today.
            And do I hear you guys say you want to take our country back? UUHHH, I can only dream if you could do that, for I know that when you ‘parrot’ that nonsense, you don’t have an idea of what it would be, because you are ignorant to the history of your country.
            But keep trying, and maybe we could enforce the Sherman Act, again.
            By the way, in 1914 the Clayton Act was passed to strengthen the Sherman Act.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            8/3/12, Just one major factor you left out: 100, or so years ago, the number of large cos & population were much smaller. there are some exemptions to anti-trust such as baseball.

          • truesoy

            pweiters9;

            The number of large corporations 100 years ago or now, is irrelevant for it is the impact that a monolopy will have on the nation that makes it relevant. As it is now the number of corporations are shrinking because they are being gobbled up by larger ones and by mergers.
            Don’t be fooled by appearance. Many corporations will keep as a separate entity the one they’ve just taken over, but it onlyfor visual effects. An example of this if evident in the insurance industry where you might see 10 to 15 different companies doing business in an area, yet, unknown to the people/consumer they’ve are owned by one or two corporations, so in reality the consumer have only two choices of companies.
            You also have a situation where Bank of America and WellsFargo combined, controlled approx. 50% of the market.
            None of that is good, neither for the consumer nor for the country, because monopolies kill competition and the lack of competition eventually will kill the free market, hence the need for a government that plays an active role in the free market as our government has done in the past, or else a few corporations will grow to become the ‘great whites’ that will devour market and country.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            8/8/12, Nothing can be further from the truth, tru. Gov’t can’t ameliorate commerce; it only cripples same.

          • http://incerely, truesoy

            pweiters9;

            You would probably agree with me that during th 1900′s the United States saw an increase in individual and corporate wealth unparallel to any othertime, right?
            During this time we had the most rgulations on corporations and one of the highest corporate tax rates, but we still had unprecented growth. Bu all these came crashing as we erased little by little all meaninful regulations.
            Now we have the appearance of competion but not real competition. This is the most obvious in the insurance industry where the majority of insurance companies are owned by just a few corporations.
            There are justiable reasons for the government to regulate the free market, for without it some companies/corporations will become the “Great White” of the free market and devour it, and thus destroying competition and destroying the free market as a consequence.
            To that end our government have always had a hand in the ‘free market’.
            I know this probably sounds foreign to you, as it appears that anything to do with american history sounds foreign to you.
            So you think that government does not improve nor promote commerce, but cripples it, instead…………Tell me then how is it not true that.:

            a) the the government financial involvement in the expansinon of the railroad to connect east and west coast of the U.S. in the 1860′s contributed to the creation of thousands and thousands of private enterprises that without the government built railroad wouldn’t have been possible.

            b) the government financed (the collective financial effort of society – taxes) interstate highway contributed to the creation of hundreds of thousand of private business/enterprises which without the government built highways wouldn’t have been possible.

            c) the electrification of America, another government mandated program to bring electricity to all rural areas. This expanded trade and increased production, thus contributing to the creation of thousands of private business and thousands of jobs.

            d) the space program is another government project that not only enriches our knowledge of the sciences but also contributed to the creation of thousands of businesses and thousands of jobs while also contributing to medical and technological advances.

            e) Medical research and development by the government has brought many advances in medicine that have contributed to the cure of many medical conditions and thus contributing to the well being of all americans in addition to the creation of untold number of business and employment opportunity.
            Just think, all these was made possible thanks to the ‘collective financial effort of society’

            Ps.-…about government regulations of the free market:
            1890. the Sherman Antitrust Act was signed into law. This happened because the people demanded action from the government in the face of the abuses committed by Union Pacific, wherby the Federal Governemt moved in (nationalized?) the Union Pacific and broke it up.
            1904.- the Federal Government moves in to disssolve the Northern Securities Company.
            1911.- The Federal Government moves in to (nationalized?) and breaks up Standard Oil of New Jersey into several companies.
            Pweiters9, tell me, what would you have done or said if Obama had done just half of that?
            See, there is a lot you don’t know about. That is why you say the things you say, and believe the things you believe in. You have been sold a bill of goods by conservative propagandists that has nothing to do with our reality, past and present.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            8/12/12, Whew! What a rant! Does this mean the EPA shouldn’t lift the ethanol mandate helping to burn our food supply?

          • truesoy

            pweiters9;

            Did you know that Castro of Cuba was among the first, ahead of the conservative republicans, in opposing ethanol and for the same reasons you’ve stated?
            I always new there were some similarities between you guys and communism, but it gets even better when you start to ‘parrot’ Castro.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            9/10/12, Here we go again, “you guys,” tell me why BO wants to subsidize Petrobras while restricting domestic oil production. Tell me why Ohio, a state he needs to win, if forced to switch to “clean coal,” will drive up their electric rates 40%. Sleep on that, Tru…….ttyl.. :{>

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            9/15/12, So why won’t the EPA relent? Flex fuel’s no cheaper.

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            8/12/12, That’s why we have the Sherman Anti-Trust Act of 1890. Furthermore, why is it unionism is on the wane? Only apx 10% of workers/craftsmen are still unionized.

          • truesoy

            pweiters9;

            I’m also puzzle why ‘labor unions are on the wane. I think there are several reasons, though. One reason is that many large manufactoring plants have found their way to China (slave labor) thereby decreasing our blue collar pool. Another reason might be the labor unions became a victim of their own success; they put a few dollars in people’s pockect, moved them to the middle class and many then became anti-union conservativerepublicans. They forgot how they got there.
            The labor unions contributed immensely to create the many things you take for granted today, such sa:
            a) the 8 hours work day is a ‘union’ won right that did not existed prior to the union’s demand
            b) Overtime pay is another Union won benefit that I’m sure you love and demand, etc.
            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            9/10/12, Hello Tru. High-tech, the ability to do exponentially more things with fewer people is what got us where we are. What do you think?

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            9/15/12, The feds want to manufacture military uniforms w/prison labor, a disturbing trend. Slavery’s returning. What’s your take? Is this the Master Plan?

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            11/18/12, Unions were useful in their heyday, during the ’30s, ’40s, ’50s; They have since morphed into political hacks. On 1 hand they mediated between you & your employer. On the other, they sold you out—w/your dues money, I might add—to politicians.

            What about those out-of-state, non-union utility cos coming to help out w/NJ’s storm damage only to be heckled & chased away by local union thugs?

        • truesoy

          pweiters9;

          …and you still didn’t name one single reason that makes any of those economic policies a disaster.
          Explain to me why they are a disaster. Try me, I’m ready to listen to you; but if you don’t, how then, would you expect me to think otherwise?.

          Sincerely,
          Truesoy

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            7/22/12, Well, for one thing, EPA is closing down 60 coal-fired power plants; BO’s still hell-bent on massive tax hikes during a recession; he bypasses Congress at every turn; he’s still as anti-fossil fuel as ever……how much more do you want?

          • truesoy

            pweiters9;

            On the issue of ‘coal power plants’ the new EPA standards might make for a reduction in the number of ‘dirty coal’ use.
            This is not an Obama scheme to hurt the economy as some might want you to believe, rather the decision for more stringent regulations are based on sound scientific data about the harm and/or the potential for harm to the one’s health from coal ash.
            It has been found to be at least 451 more coal ponds that was previously known.

            i don’t see why you feel that stricter regulations for the protection of everyone’s health is a bad idea.
            I’m sure many people felt the same way about regulations to stop pollution of our rivers and lakes as you about regulating coal because of the cost to industry and the economy. But just as it was in the past, this too, will be cheaper and better in he long run.
            ….and ask yourself: aren’t you glad for clean air and safe drinking water?
            About the tax issue: President Obama reduced the payroll tax. Don’t listen to ‘rightwing’ voices, nor take my word on this. Check it yourself, it is public record.
            Now, letting the Bush ‘millionaires’ tax cut expired is not he same as a tax hike, anymore than stopping you child’s undeserved allowances is taking the child’s money.
            Bypassing Congress/ that is called ‘an executive order’. Obama signed over 100 of those.
            Bush signed over twice that amount. And it is legal and constitutional, but the manner in which the republican machine articulates it with words such as ‘bypassing congress’ gives it a negative connoctation in that some people, because they don’t know any better, might fall for it. But it’s just nothing more than ‘an executive order’; and all presidents have done it, I believe Reagan used approx 300 times. Again, if in doub, check it out yourself.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            7/28/12, BO’s got your nose open. What about the estimated cost of Obamacare of $1.87T over the next 10 years, the 55% estate tax @ $1M; 60% @ 10M, cap gains tax, apx 15%; corporate tax, 39%; tax on premium medical plans (such as mine)? Do you really want the IRS to oversee your h/c? There are apx 20 new taxes being cooked up right now to take effect in 2013.

          • truesoy

            pweiters;

            The health care reform actually saves the government money; and one day when you are sick and in need of medical care, you’ll be happy for it.
            It is a win-win situation for everyone, you included.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            8/3/12, I’ve been sick (pre-BO) & had excellent care. I’m glad I wasn’t in Canada or UK. Trust me, Obamacare is unsustainable; I’ve yet to come across a single doctor in favor of this. Docs I go to are now merging w/others to cut costs. Your cost will escalate & the quality will decline as veteran practitioners retire & fewer new people go into medicine.

          • truesoy

            pweiters9;

            The information you receive on how bad insurance reform is, comes from the insurance industr and, do you ever wondered why? The reason is inplain view.
            What we really need is either a ‘true universal plan (medicare for all) or a ‘public option’ whereby people have a choice; you’ll get to get the plan you want, and I’ll get the plan I want, fair? freedom of choice, right?
            Don’t confuse the manner and / or source of payment with the manner and / or quality of care. The insurance industry is doing a good job confusing people and they have enlisted the help of many elected officials, mostly republicans, to that end. Don’t let them do it.
            Ps.- most doctors support healthcare reform.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            8/8/12, Trust me, tru, they don’t want Obamacare.

          • http://incerely, truesoy

            pweiters9;

            It is ok to lie and deceive yourself,but don’t pretend others are jus as stupid and/or have such poor memory, for you should remember that it was health care reform a major issue of Obama’s platform when he ran for president. That’s why I voted for him, and apparently most people did too.
            Although I would have preferred ‘medicare for all’ or the ‘public option’ but the republican filibuster could not be overcome.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            8/12/12, He’s out, kumbayaaa. BO’s reign is unsustainable. Face it, Tru, you backed a loser & you’re going to lose with it.

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            8/12/12, So, why do affluent Canadians who can afford their own private policies come to the US for care?

          • truesoy

            pweiters9;

            …because it doesn’t happen, but canadians complain of americans getting free ‘canadian health care’..
            I know there is a lot of misinformation about healthcare in Canada. A few years ago there was an article about one of Canada’s premiers from one of its provinces coming to the U.S. for a medical procedure because he felt the waiting time, I believe it was several weks was too long. The opponents of ‘socialized’ medicine took this an ran with it with the normal ‘I told you so’, but what they forgot to mention was that the procedure in question was ‘cosmetic’ which ironically no insurance in the United States covers, but that the canadian system does cover.
            By the way, do you hear of anyone from Europe or Israel running to us for healthcare? they hava socialized medicine.
            Insurance is a business like no other business.
            The insurance company cn onlymake a profit if the consumer doesn’t NOT use the product. That is why they have a few pages within the policy that list ‘exclusions and limitations’, sometimes they also add riders to the policy with more exclusions and limitations.
            Health insurance as we know it is not a practical consumer choice. Just think what if, FedEx and UPS made their profit on packages not delivered? I’m sure you wouldn’t use their services, right? So why do it on your health?.
            Also the way it is not your healthcare is at the mercy of the insurance company and/or your employer, thus one day he could just decide not to cover your health plan anymore, and then what? Are you aware that the average cost of insurance for a family is approx. $18,000.00 per year?.
            But how about if your carrier cancels you plan and you have a pre-existing condition, then what? you’ll be in lots of trouble if this was to happen because you won’t be able to find coverage unless you are part of a ‘large’ employer group, but if not, you’ll be responsible for all your medical bills, even if that means losing all you ever worked for. And don’t think it couldn’t happen, because it has to plenty of people.

            Sincerely,
            Truesoy

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            8/3/12, All fuel is “dirty;” it’s a question of burning it completely. Even propane can be dirty if not consumed efficiently.

          • http://pweiters9.wordpress.com pweiters9

            7/28/12, Don’t be a stepford wife, a zombie; “You didn’t build this,” proclaimed that POS. He actually hates private business.

  • Doc Sarvis

    With more and more of our wealth being concentrated in the top 1% our economy is suffering. The top 1% are NOT job creators. When the middle class and the top 20% has the financial resources to invest they will create jobs. The middle class has nothing to build our economy with because the wealth is concentraing at the very top.

    • http://www.manvscapitalism.com Wayne

      That’s a great replay of liberal talking points, Doc. But of course, all the real facts, and even the facts created by the government themselves (the one you want to run your life for you) show this isn’t true. But like WAR says, people love to live in fantasy-land.
      Free and open markets are how we became great. That is a fact. So why not destroy them for fantasy.

      • Deerinwater

        Free enterprise is not free, it cost money. ~ The top 1% have the money but they have no need of investing in such away that the investment might benefit but a narrow select few. ~ This is due to tax structure and how money leveraged can make money without any physical exchange from taking place. It basically smoke & mirrors and the exchange of documents.

        The top 1% no longer needs to actually work, produce, build, create or craft anythings but documents anymore.

      • Ken

        Trying to explain this to “Doc” is like trying to reason with a brick wall. It’s simply amazing

        to me that so many individuals exist that simply cannot comprehend this scenario – it’s

        utterly simple in how Barry and his ilk scam, twist the truth and the masses buy it like

        penny candy!

        We haven’t lived in a true free-market society in at LEAST 100 years (or more), it’s been

        manipulated completely and therefore not a TRUE free market!

        If you want to watch a mind-blowing interview watch (below) this ex high level KGB agent

        explain social manipulation and how Americans have been brainwashed.

        Disinformation is intentionally false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately. It is synonymous with and sometimes called black propaganda. It may include the distribution of forged documents, manuscripts, and photographs, or spreading malicious rumors and fabricated intelligence. Disinformation should not be confused with misinformation, information that is unintentionally false.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9_HkynPDSc&feature=email

      • Theodore

        These are the large corporation CEO salaries (during the current worldwide recession) by country:
        Ratio of CEO pay per worker
        Japan 11.1%
        Germany 12.1%
        France 15.2%
        USA 475.2%
        Despite the failures of many major US corporations, the top end CEO executive salaries have been on the rise (a bonus for failure and a ripoff to workers and shareholders).
        This list is garnered from reported income statistics by many world trade organizations and supported by year end fiscal corporate reports. It is not a fantasy as you so readily state.

      • Karolyn

        Theodore, Love your response. The inequality in this country is our main problem.

      • Ken

        @Deerinwater;

        I concur, yet anyone can invest in this way ( as I’m sure Wayne is aware ) yet as in many

        crafts you need to first choose it, then find an appropriate teacher or craftsman to teach

        you the craft (which takes years of dedication to learn ).

        Those who are angry at the 1% have to realize that even though some were “born with a silver spoon”, many worked hard to earn their money through their own hard work and wise investments….

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Karolyn, short of socialism, what do you suggest? I think that the only thing we could do is to end the cronyism. The government needs to stop giving our money to privately owned corporations, no loans, no bail outs. No special deals that benefit one company over another. But to think that we solve our problems by taking money from one group to give to another will only make matters worse. If government would get out of the way there wouldn’t be that 1%.

      • Michael J.

        Bobinwater/Deerwire said,
        “The top 1% have the money but they have no need of investing in such away that the investment might benefit but a narrow select few.”

        Baloney, The wealthy have been targeted by the current regime to undermine contributions to the Republican party. The Kommie Kenyan, by making capitalism a dirty word, by implementing the largest tax increase in world history, has stifled confidence to invest, spawned epidemic expatriatism, and the mass retreat of assets to offshore accounts.

      • Flashy

        Income inequality is growing here in the US, and all the TPers and far Right yell for is more of the same. Soon they’ll be cheering having to refer to the upper elite as “Sire”, “Lord” and “my Leige” .

        The 1% are not job creators. Whomever believes that believes in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy.

      • MAP

        Great article explaining how we got into this fix.
        http://dev.republicoftheunitedstates.org/what-is-the-republic/history/

      • Deerinwater

        “I concur, yet anyone can invest in this way ( as I’m sure Wayne is aware ) yet as in many

        crafts you need to first choose it, then find an appropriate teacher or craftsman to teach”

        You can call it what you want too, ~ but I don’t call it working, I call it gambling in a crooked game hosted by crony capitalist under a rude of capitalism where the worst case scenario ends with socialized losses and privatized profits (if you are big enough)

        I’d like to see the whole Wall Street crowd jump out their 27th floor windows. People that think that they are somehow smart, pressing buttons, screwing people over with insider trading, mislabeling products and moving money about are little more then “enablers” to a den of thieves.

        If you manage to get away with swimming with sharks because you swam with “friends” does not make you smart ~ only lucky. ~ that time. There has to be a few winners to keep a long line of fools ready to play.

        Wall Street has it’s “derivatives” and Banks have their “fractional lending” ~ but it’s all smoke and mirrors, a shell games to amuse and amaze. To refer to this as “Working” is a slap in the face to working men and women of America.

      • revnowwhilewecan

        Deerinwater,
        I agree with your “shark” assessment. Bernie Madoff isn’t in jail because he stole from the fishes, he’s there because he stole from the sharks.

      • DaveH

        Flashman tries his usual manipulative tactics — “The 1% are not job creators. Whomever believes that believes in Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy”.
        You might influence ignorant Liberal Followers with manipulative tactics like that, Flashman, but most others are going to demand legitimate logic and facts.
        While it’s true that certain Crony Capitalists are taking advantage of others with the aid of their Crony Politicians, it serves no purpose at all to refer vaguely to the “1%”. Rather, we need to focus on the fact that Big Government is NOT the solution, it IS the problem. Without the Crony Politicians subsidizing and otherwise protecting the Crony Capitalists against competition, and bleeding the country dry financially with all their meddling, our economy would thrive and prosper. Without Big Government meddling, consumers (not politicians) would decide with their wallets which companies succeeded and which companies failed.

    • RivahMitch

      Sorry Doc, you’re only half right. There’s no question that the banksters, the Goldmans and AIGs (and Fannys and Freddies)(who produce nothing) are a drag on the economy. However, you choose to overlook the large portion of our (entrepreneurial middle class) wealth which is being extorted by the governments and politicians (at various levels) to support the parasitical sycophants who vote for them. Under the present regime, the favored model is that everyone get a union job and work for a large corporation (because the government prefers to deal with people “wholesale” (in large groups) rather than “retail” (with thousands or millions of small business owners). hence, additional tax and regulatory burdens are intended to force those “retail” folks into the “wholesale’ model of “wage slave”. Under such circumstances, only a fool would put more family resources into an entrepreneurial model being attacked by the government.

      • Doc Sarvis

        RivahMitch,
        You state; “Under the present regime, the favored model is that everyone get a union job and work for a large corporation…”
        From the Bureau of Labor Statistics (2011 data):
        Public-sector workers had a union membership rate of 37.0 percent and the private-sector workers 6.9 percent.

    • http://gravatar.com/dalene44 dalene44

      Washington DC is the 1% and has the highest median income in the US. You are correct in saying that the politicians are not the job creators. Small business owners with incomes of 200K up to a million are the engine of the economy.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Dalene44,
        If D.C. has the highest median income in the U.S. I’ll bet it is more due to the lobbyists on K Street (and elsewhere) as opposed to politicians.
        It is also statistically skewed to compare such a small area with coparitively huge states. I’m sure I could pick out one block in Hollywood or New York City and produce a grand median income for that small sample.

      • Theodore

        These are the large corporation CEO salaries (during the current worldwide recession) by country:
        Ratio of CEO pay per worker
        Japan 11.1%
        Germany 12.1%
        France 15.2%
        USA 475.2%
        Despite the failures of many major US corporations, the top end CEO executive salaries have been on the rise (a bonus for failure and a ripoff to workers and shareholders).

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      The wealth is concentrated at the top. The majority of jobs come from the small businesses. They’re being squeezed out with higher taxes, more regulations from the EPA and OSHA, and now the healthcare law. The paperwork and keeping track of regulations alone will put them out of business. The large corporate employers are greedy. They’re making a profit but it isn’t high enough. So they lay of more and more workers. They’ll squeeze out every penny they can get. The result is that people are still losing their jobs. In the end it will cause everything to collapse and everyone will lose their jobs.

      • DaveH

        Those who would like a better understanding of what’s really going on can read this:
        http://www.amazon.com/The-Big-Ripoff-Business-Government/dp/0471789070/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342112852&sr=8-1&keywords=the+big+ripoff
        The Crony Capitalists and their Crony Politicians are making fools of the Average American. As Nancy pointed out, the regulations which they create are killing their smaller competitors (by design). The only way to cure this problem and put our economy back on a level playing field is to get meddlesome Politicians out of our marketplace, so they can’t aid their Crony Capitalists with targeted regulations and other burdensome hoops which the Big Businesses can afford to negotiate but their smaller competitors can’t. Especially due to the easy access to information on the Internet, there is no reason whatever for the consumers to not do their homework before buying products. Big Government only reduces the number of choices that consumers can make (not to mention the burden of their overpaid salaries on Mainstreet Americans).
        Vote for Free Markets. Vote Libertarian!

    • JUKEBOX

      I would like for Doc to elaborate on how many poor people have ever hired him for a good paying job, have let him buy a house or car on credit, or taken him out for a nice steak dinner.

      • Doc Sarvis

        I never claimed the poor are the job creators, that would be the middle and upper middle class. Even some of the rich create jobs. The vast majority of the jobs are created when the 99% have more wealth. The top 1% are doing little other than hoarding our country’s wealth.

      • DaveH

        Where do they “hoard” that wealth, Doc? Enlighten me please.

      • Deerinwater

        have a total labor force of 6 persons and I assure you Sir. . I am not rich. I’m not anywhere close to the middle either . ~ I am simply not poor. ~ but I’m getting there fast !

  • Tazio2013

    Punk Economics (short video): China Panics, US “Recovers” and Germany Flinches / FYI

    http://www.activistpost.com/2012/07/punk-economics-china-panics-us-recovers.html

  • Tazio2013

    The Collectivist War Against Cultural Heritage by Brandon Smith / FYI

    American Futurists [aka AmeroFascists] complain that the Constitution is too restrictive on government, and that it prevents the establishment from making changes quickly. But where they see a lack of adaptation, I see critical checks and balances. Where they see archaic law, I see timeless principles of conscience that will remain relevant for all eternity. Where they see progress in globalism, socialism, and collectivism, I see a devolvement into the dark ages of feudalism. How “new” and progressive is Globalism really? Is it not more reasonable to say that the idea of a free decentralized and sovereign republic whose first mission is to protect personal rights is much more rare and advanced than yet another elitist stab at centralized domination?

    Is the Constitution a “perfect document”? No. I don’t know that there is such a thing. What I do know, though, is that there is no one currently in government with the wisdom or intelligence needed to rewrite the document to be more balanced than it already is. I welcome critics to name any person they think is legitimately qualified.

    The Founders designed the Constitution to limit the powers of federal government for a reason! Take a look at the stunning array of liberty-rending executive orders that Barack Obama has issued in the course of the past four years. Now imagine that he and Congress had free reign to etch those orders into the Constitution at will. What possible meaning would the document have then? The Constitution was never meant to be a tool of government. It was meant to be a tool (a necessary tool) for the people to restrain government. The futurists muse like children over this concept but fail tragically to grasp it.

    Despite the obvious faulty logic within the “outdated” argument, the propaganda has hit full steam in recent years. In federally funded schools around the country, American history before the Civil War is no longer taught, and Constitutional studies are almost unheard of:

    http://www.activistpost.com/2012/07/collectivist-war-against-cultural.html

    • http://www.manvscapitalism.com Wayne

      The Constitution is definitely one of the greatest documents ever written, and its fast becoming one of the greatest documents ever destroyed.
      Folks that fail to see how important restraining the government by the people is, are the same ones that have no idea that socialist Europe (ie the European Union) is all but dead. They started off broke, and then worked to make it even worse under socialist policies that already were not working.
      And blind Americans want to follow, and trash the one document that can guide them straight. Sad

      • Ken

        And America is sniffing the A$$ of the dog called the European Union as it runs headlong to it’s death.

      • Theodore

        The US constitution is truly an admirable document. However is has been amended 27 times in its history. It is neither static nor perfect but a tool for self government by the will of the citizens of the United States.

        Amendments are legal changes to the constitution and are derived from the will of the majority of the US citizenry through their state legislators. Amendments must be preserved as the law of the land even though one disagrees with them. The alternative is anarchy and rebellion.

    • ginger

      History is something too many today do not want to study, but it is something all students needs to learn about. Some want to go back and change history, but truth is truth. I know there are some things that have been written that is not truth, but most is truth. Our constitution is written so it is applicable to all generations if it is not changed to fit just one person interpretations of it. It was written by a large group of people and it should never be changed because of just a few people. There is good and bad in all history. We need to know the good and bad so we can make wise decisions to guide us today. If only our elected officials could truly learn and abide by this truth.

  • Pat G

    Why does it always seem to take people this long to understand what happened halfway thru GW Bush’s 2 term. The democratic party had to stop many years of great economic growth so they contrived a plan to kill the economy. By doing so they could then turn around a do a bounce back. Unfortunately, the whole of the democratic party hasn’t intelligence enough to figure out how to stop what they started in 2006. Now with the inept failures of the Obama administration led by a total Baffoon(known as the court jester in mid-evil times), there is no way to bring back the prosperity of the mid eighties and nineties. At least Slick Willy had enough of an IQ to listen to the GOP and turned his failures around. GO FIGURE!

    • nc

      Pat. it is more interesting to watch you “go figure” when you start with the assumption that Democrats are always out to ruin our economy so they can rebuild it. Where are your figures to prove that? Where is your history to prove that? Which Democrat Presidents tried to ruin the economy? According to even conservative economist the economy was already in near ruing before Obama was sworn and that was in the second worst shape since FDR took over from Republican Hoover! I want to see the “math” not the spin! Remember!! Adults are watching your answer and they know spin when they see it!
      Let’s have it! Give us your best “go figure” numbers for the republican side!

  • Deerinwater

    An Obama Depression? Hmmm ? ~~~ Seems we are going a bit overboard with this “Magic Nero” thAng. Why not YOUR depression? or the 350 some odd elected federal officials that make up the Federal government “depression”?

    Why is it that only now we miss this 7 trillion dollars we spent on wars to no where that we Americans “bought” on the ‘Installment plan” a few years ago and the bill is just hitting our mail box?

    Is it that now, ~ you don’t want to pay this bill?

    This whole debacle has been depressing . It’s good to see my fellow Americans that have been employed by the military complex for 15 years finally feel some of the pain. ~ about damn time.

    hey ! Don’t worry ! The economy is still good at Mitt Romney s house. I know you have great concerns for him and his friends but you shouldn’t. Maybe if we lick their shoes Mitt will pat us on the head and throw us a bone.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Well put.

    • Dave67

      Its funny when we went headlong into Bush’s wars… The conservatives were clapping like trained seals when Bush gave out tax cuts on top of two major foreign war entanglements. Unheard of… But I guess conservative calculators work differently than the rest of ours.

      Now, the deficit from the two wars we are still paying for and the lost tax income from the tax cuts that have netted us a 8.2% unemployment rate is not put on Obama as “free spending” The numbers if you break down the spending that has been done under Obama and by Obama do not match was conservatives like to tell us.

      The GOP charges their spending on a Chinese Credit card, the Democrats cash and carry.

      The solution to fix OUR economy goes like this:

      The complete rewrite of trade agreements that are not good for American workers
      The raising of taxes and closing loopholes for the wealthy.
      The Gov investment into this country’s infrastructure and education, and educational excellence is measured by our ability as a nation to compete internationally.
      Reduce defense spending to 300B a year, end farm and oil subsidies
      Make changes to SS, Medicare, Medicad to get us through the baby boomer generation.
      End the Citizen’s United decision and limit contributions to any candidate or party to $50 by any single person or organization
      End the FEC
      Do not allow Congresspeople to leave the body and go to lobbying for 10 years
      If we go to war, a draft is instituted where congress’s gets to have their sons and daughters go fight.

      Then maybe we can get this country on track again.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Right you are.

      • Jimmy The Greek

        Right !

      • boyscout

        Dave, although I am sure that you missed a few elements (as I surely would have) those are the best starting points I have read on this blog. Kudos.

      • DaveH

        What’s funny, Dave67, is your repeated erroneous use of the word Conservative.
        True Conservatives believe in the Freedom and Limited Government that established this country. Those who you speak of are anything but Conservative. But then, that’s your intent, isn’t it, misinforming Liberal — to blur the meaning of Conservative so as to confuse the bulk of people? Whether they cloak themselves as the Military State or the Welfare State, the bottom line is that they are impoverishing our country. And they are anything but Conservative.
        That, Folks, is how the Big Government advocates work their magic, because most people, if they really knew what was going on, would throw the rascals out of office in a heartbeat. The Leaders are simply a bunch of self-serving individuals acting in a gang to gain advantage of the rest of us. And as long as we let people, like Dave67, get away with their deception they will continue to take advantage of us.
        There are very few functions that Big Government can perform better than the private sector, but they will continue to work their magic until the Mainstream Americans wake up to reality and throw off the blinders induced by their persistent Propaganda.
        It’s time to ignore creep boys like Dave67 and throw off the shackles of enslavement.

      • SJJolly

        A good list of things that need to be changed. BIG problem is how to do so, when the 1% owns the news media, owns most of our elected legislators, and likes things the way they are? Occupy Wall Street threatened that control just slighly, and got slandered royally and beat up by police at the direction of governments. Any chance that a bigger, national-scale reform movement wouldn’t get the attention of all the component agencies of Homeland Security?

      • Dave67

        DaveH, you misuse the term liberal all the time so we are even there. Its funny, the GOP call themselves conservative but they are not to you. Anything self described “conservatives” do something you don’t like, they are thrown out of the club..

        Because you lie about liberals all the time, I will not accept your definition conservatism. I will accept that when a person calls themselves a conservative, then they are a conservative and I will hold them to their record.

        When you learn about what true liberals are and understand what our goals are from actual liberals, not the propagandist Heritage Foundation and the like, then we can have a conversation that rises above the Fox news quality level.

    • Power To The People

      Why bring up race dude….you scared your talking points carry no truth and no reality? Stop drinking t at the commie bar and open your eyes to reality. Real unemployment is 15%….over 25% for the young and growing. This is “change we can believe in”? Yea, right….give this fool and his power hungry nuts another 4 years to finish the job.

      Just like in his book….he so longs to fulfill the “dreams of his father”! Have most of you Obumer worshipers actually read the books?

      • Deerinwater

        Actually I didn’t ~ only responding to any earlier Bob Livingston thread, ~ I was using it as a pun, ~ a poke in the ribs , an “inside joke” (you’d had to have been there) clearly you wasn’t.

        But there must be some truth to Obama’s magic ~ if he is responsible enough to have a “Depression” named in his honor as the author of this thread ” Wayne Allyn Root ” claims.

        The way some self proclaimed Conservatives talk, I would not be surprised if Obama could walk on water. Maybe Obama can tell us what Billy Joe McGalister threw off the Tallahassee Bridge?

  • Darshelle

    You know there are qualified individuals, but they have to be capable of understanding the classes.Mind sets will vary depending on how much money and responsibility a person has or have had. Mental health is not discriminatory.

  • http://www.charter.net James Graham

    Real Fa The I.R.S. has just been empowered to grab your assets
    Yes, you read that right.

    Obama has given the green light and an unlimited budget to the I.R.S.—the tax collecting arm of ObamaCare—the right to grab:
    • Your home
    • Your life savings
    • Your mementos
    • Your business assets
    • Your family heirlooms
    • Your children’s college money
    • Your unprotected retirement savings
    • Your secret nest-egg

    Virtually anything of yours it damn well pleases. And here’s their sinister plan…

    Your assets will be liquidated and the proceeds used to pay for health care for illegal aliens. How does the Tea Party know this?

    Because the illegal alien clause was NEVER TAKEN OUT of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA)—also known as ObamaCare.

    Can you say redistribution of wealth (or poverty as the case may be because by the time O’Scammer is done in the Oval Office we’ll all be dirt poor)—the very thing Obama has been pushing all long.

    They have the authority to take from the mouths of your family and give to undeserving, ILLEGAL strangers. As Obama disembowels our Free-Enterprise Republic, his liberal minions cheer him on, dreaming of the day they can bask in the glory of their evil and sinister conquest.

    But YOU have the power to help us drive a stake through ObamaCare and get rid of this garbage piece of legislation no one wants. Help us fax blast the hell out of both the Senate and the House–all 535 members–and tell them “DITCH ObamaCare NOW!” Kill it once and for all.
    cts About Mitt Romney=em
    Just Some Real Facts About Mitt Romney That We Will Not Hear About From The Lame Stream Media About The Real Mitt Romney! All you will hear from the Lame Stream Media about Romney will be negative or repulsive (from Mitt’s high school days approx. 50 years ago!) that in no way proves anything about what this man is made of today. The facts below are much more informative than what CNN or MSNBC can dig up about Romney.

    Mitt Romney:

    After going to both Harvard Business School and Harvard Law School simultaneously, he passed the Michigan bar, but never worked as an attorney.

    As a venture-capitalist, Romney’s first major business deal involved investing in a start-up office supply company with one store in Massachusetts that sold office supplies. That company, called Staples, now has over 2,000 stores and employs over 90,000 people.

    Romney or his company Bain Capital (using what became known as the “Bain Way”) would go on to perform the same kinds of business miracles again and again, with companies like Domino’s, Sealy, Brookstone, Weather Channel, Burger King, Warner Music Group, Dollarama, Home Depot Supply, and many others.

    Got your calculators handy? Let’s recap.

    Volunteer campaign worker for his dad’s gubernatorial campaign 1 year.

    Unpaid intern in Governor’s office 8 years.

    Mormon missionary in Paris 2 years.

    Unpaid bishop and state president for his church 10 years.

    No salary as president of the Olympics 3 years.

    No salary as MA governor 4 years.

    That’s a grand total of 28 years of unpaid service to his country, his community and his church.

    And in 2011 Mitt Romney gave over $4 million to charity, almost 19% of his income….Obama gave 1%

    Joe Biden gave $300 or .0013%

    This is real character vs….well you know what!

    Romney may not be the best representative the Republicans could have selected. At least I know what religion he is, and that he won’t desecrate the flag, bow down to foreign powers, or squander my money on vacations. I know he has the ability to turn this financial debacle that the “Spending President” has gotten us into. We didn’t know that when Obama said he’d give us change, he meant nickels and dimes, and he would get the big bucks. We won’t like all the things necessary to recover from this debt, but someone with Romney’s background can do it.

    But, on the minus side, He never was a “Community Organizer”, never took drugs or smoked pot. Never got drunk. Did not associate with communists or terrorists. Nor did he attend a church whose pastor called for God to damn the U.S

    • Ken

      Gotta love it….

    • nc

      James, people who worked with Mitt at the top level of Republican politics saw him in a far different light than people like you who see him from afar”
      Newt Gingrich(R) saw MITT as a liar and said so
      Michele Bachmann(R) saw MITT as unfit to be the President of the USA and said so
      Rick ? (R) saw him as the worst Republican in the USA and said so.
      Rick Perry(R) saw his “great’ work(?)” at Bain as “VULTURE CAPITALISM” AND SAID SO!
      These are not MSM evaluations but GOOD OLD REPUBLICAN LEADER evaluations of MIttens!!

      • Power To The People

        Yea, and Hillary said Obumer was not fit to be President too!

      • Mollie

        Well, let’s see “nc”There was a link about 5 month’s ago on…I believe it was WND that had a link to ALL the bills that Newt supported and voted on…that included abortion…foreign aid…WARS…Oh yes…let’s not forget the infamous commercial with Nancy supporting Global Warming. And, that’s just a start as it was a rather l-o-o-n-g list. You want to kick Romney for his wealth, but how about the several million $ deal that Newt turned for advising those banksters on Wall Street. Newt learned a LOT while “serving” in Congress. Like I said…just to mention a few…

        And Michele Bachman?? I won’t waste a lot of time on her!! She won the Iowa Straw Poll over Ron Paul by…what was it…4 votes??? Oh, and she managed THAT by handing out tickets to a popular rock group’s concert to “buy” those votes. She’s STILL begging for money through newsletters for her current campaign…

        Rick ? no last name…I won’t even go there.

        Rick Perry? Ah yes, the “early wonder boy” with the great hair and strong jaw. Vulture Capitalist??? MY MY. Let’s see…Rick passed an “executive order while Governor…mandating that young girls and even boys should get the Gardasil shot that supposedly “cured” cancer…except, THAT wasn’t proven…and the side effects were horrendous. Seizures, heart palpitations, loss of muscle control…inability to get pregnant…and something else….oh yes…death. The FDA couldn’t get that one passed, so they called upon ‘god ol’ boy’ Rick Perry to get ‘er done. I wonder how much the FDA lined Rick Perry’s pockets for that “favor”??? Rick Perry already knows all about “executive orders”.

        The one BIG flaw in Mitt Romney isn’t his WEALTH and why would anyone hold THAT against him?? I wonder where BHO has stashed some of those TRILLIONS of “lost” money??? Probably in some remote “hut” in his “homeland” of Kenya…But, I digress…The main problem with Mitt…I feel he has become too POLITE. Probably from all those YEARS of associating with people who attended church with him on a regular basis. He is just seeing too much good in ALL people and expecting them to have the same level of INTEGRITY. If he was more aggressive and mean…he would probably stand a better chance.

        Average Americans just want to have a job…pay their bills, buy clothes with company logos on them so others can see how “well” they are doing AND have enough left over to buy the latest “techie” toys… maybe realize a few Life goals…nothing really BIG as the average mind doesn’t believe they are capable of anything “great”. Mitt Romney can help those people!! He KNOWS how to do that!! You could strip Mitt of ALL his wealth, drop him off with nothing and he would be able to start building the same assets back. Mitt Romney KNOWS how money WORKS!! Once a person acquires THAT skill…money comes easy for them.

        If the best that people can come up with is to throw stones at Mitt because he is wealthy that’s pretty pathetic. If you could call him on bowing to foreign dictators or not respecting the flag or The Constitution…you would have something really BIG!! Oh wait…BHO has already got a corner on THAT! Maybe Mitt could sign “executive orders” that stripped American Citizens of their Constitutional Rights almost daily?? No…BHO has already accomplished THAT one too.

        Well, what CAN Mitt do that is DIFFERENT from the “present administration”????? Besides creating jobs by getting Govt. out of the way, and helping American Citizens get back to work…A Romney Presidency COULD slow down the slide of America into a Socialist Dictatorship and BUY TIME for America to continue the job of “hiring” with our votes, those Patriots who would actually represent The American People. Now THAT would be something UNIQUE!! I believe that Romney COULD accomplish THAT!!

        There are a LOT of Ron Paul “bots” who have learned HOW to grow grassroots support. Ron Paul has instilled a LOVE for our Constitution in his loyal supporters…millions of them… They WILL change the GOP from within and have already started THAT process by getting elected into key positions of leadership within the Republican Party in EACH state. They WILL NOT STOP just because Ron Paul doesn’t get the “nod”. The goal of a FREE America will live on. Americans who took the time to learn will be the future leaders and Ron Paul has trained them well.

        A very wise man started a ripple that will continue to spread long after his Time has passed. The IDEA of Freedom’s TIME has come full circle. You don’t really appreciate something…until you almost loose it!! America, quit complaining and roll up your sleeves…You’ve got work to do!!

    • Dave67

      I love Romney, he will eventually have my position on things. It just depends on who he is talking to..

      What do you love more, his 47th ranking in job creation as MA Gov or the raiding of pension plans he oversaw at BAIN.

  • Dave67

    What have the conservatives done to bring people together and compromise? Anything? Hello? Oh yeah, thats right… The conservative position is my way or no way.

    BTW Mr Root, the Economy hit this skids in Dec of 2007. So try your rewrite of history somewhere else… And wrecking our economy was a team effort… Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, the Bush’s and the various Congresses all deserve credit as does the corp greed that puts money at the top over what is good for the country.

    Your nonsense fails the smell test.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      We finally agree on something! It was a team effort! We should not be distracted by the letter after someone’s name!

      • Dave67

        Yes, Nancy. We both know that both parties are full of it and the reason why our economy is in the state it in. We just need to work on your misconceptions of liberals. :-)

        Baby steps… Baby steps…

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Not gonna happen!!!

      • DaveH

        My definition of Liberals, Dave, is those who think Big Government is the solution to our problems. As such, no matter their ideals, they play right into the hands of those who want to enslave us all. Only through respect for the freedom of our fellow man and voluntary transactions can we ever hope to save this country from an inevitable collapse that occurs whenever the cancer of Socialism has become too pervasive.
        Personally, I have not yet met a Liberal (my definition) whose philosophy and morality is consistent with the goals he/she advocates.
        For Free Markets, Limited Government, Individual Liberty, Personal Responsibility, and the PEACE that comes with them, Vote Libertarian!
        http://www.lp.org/

      • Dave67

        Well DaveH,

        Let me educate you.

        “those who think Big Government is the solution to our problems.”

        Wrong, completely… Gov has a part to play because they are out mouthpiece to the world and sets trade policy and is supposed to protect from corp, union and other abuses. To make a system of laws that is fair to everyone (not happening in this corptocracy)

        There is no country that has existed in the history of the industrialized world that is 100% capitalism and Lassie-Faire at that and you know it. The best system up til now has been a mix of capitalism and socialism. Its proving successful in countries like the Netherlands, Sweden, New Zealand and Germany where corporations do not write the laws and regulations. You deal in Capitalist theory, not the reality. Capitalism in in pure form fails just like Socialism does and Communism does. You simply refuse to acknowledge that reality of capitalism.

        “For Free Markets (no such thing in this day and age), Limited Government (what does that mean in a global economy?), Individual Liberty, Personal Responsibility (Can’t have liberty without responsibility and that is what liberals like me stand for), and the PEACE that comes with them (Peace comes from a society that doesn’t allow the few at the top to buy the rules that benefits only their narrow interests), Vote Libertarian! ( I agree with much of the libertarian philosophy but I do not buy into the Gov is inherently bad and that Gov is there just to oppress)

      • DaveH

        Before you can educate me, Dave67, you need to get an education.
        Government officials do little more than protect their Crony Capitalists and other special interests, redistribute wealth from those who earned it to those who didn’t, and generally posture to ignorant people such as yourself who can’t figure out that their main goal is re-election. The private sector can protect us much more efficiently in most matters than can the Government.
        You, Dave67, are the one who is “wrong, completely”. You can’t even spell “corptocracy” (corporatocracy), but you expect people to be impressed with your knowledge?
        If you’d just take the time to read the book — “The Big Ripoff: How Big Business and Big Government Steal Your Money”, you might actually learn something.
        And the fact that pure Capitalism has never existed is a non sequitur. Neither has pure Goodness, but that certainly doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive for it.
        Anybody who isn’t a Liberal Zealot like yourself can see from studying this ranking of countries based on the size of Government that the Bigger Government gets, the Smaller their economies get:
        http://heritage.org/index/ranking
        Success is a relative thing. I thrive quite well even though having been saddled with a debilitating chronic illness since age 26, but that certainly doesn’t mean that my illness is beneficial. In fact, if you’d do some studying on the countries that you’ve mentioned, you would find that they were relatively economically free compared to their neighboring countries. But you have to want to learn, and I doubt seriously that you can achieve that state of open-mindedness.
        And, Dave67, I must point out your severe lack of logic and consistency with this statement from you — “Capitalism in in pure form fails just like Socialism does and Communism does”.
        Yet earlier, Dave67, you said that pure Capitalism has never existed. So how would you know that it fails? You are indeed a fine representative of the Liberal Mindset.
        Do some studying at Mises.org, Dave67, and shake the shackles of your Liberal Ignorance.

      • Dave67

        DaveH,

        Sorry I spelled Corpatocracy wrong….

        The Hertiage foundation? really?

        Let me explain how the real world works… lets take the United States as a self contained economy.

        You start out with 10 companies making a widget.

        One company who has a really efficient manufacturing talks to another company who makes the same widget and the second company has a better method to bring the widget to market…

        What stops them from merging? Do you get my point? So companies can merge and eventually there is a monopoly. Can that happen without Gov? Yes Do you think without the Gov that companies would never do anything underhanded in the marketplace?

        Now throw other countries into the mix and then you have many more variables involved that includes wages, safety issues and other things to be competitive in the world.

        So your idea that Gov’s involvement spoils the capitalist model is pure poppycock. Mises.org is great in theory… in theory only.

        Humans have greed, jealousy, laziness, apathy, need for control among other attributes as part of our makeup.

        Those attributes mean that without layers of protection into the system, people can easily manipulate the system. That is true in a capitalist system, it is true in a socialist system and communism simply can’t work on a large scale unless you are Jesus Christ. That is why these various economic models cannot work on their own.

        I believe America works best when Business does what they do best, make money, Unions do what they do best, getting a better deal for wortkers and Gov does what it does best, making laws that limit abuses by the above two entities, work our FAIR trade agreements so we are doing business with trade partners that treat their workers well and respect the environment.

        What throws a monkey wrench into things is big money in the political process. That should be outlawed. Corporations now own our Gov and that throws the country out of whack.

        Here is the reality you need to face up to. There is no such thing as the free market in a global industrialized world with different types of governments and different currencies. If you want a free market, then lets have that new world order George H Bush was speaking about, get rid of the nation-state and just have one world, one currency. Then you free market ideals have a shot. Otherwise, it just doesn’t work.

    • Dave67

      AS I said Nancy, baby steps… It will take some deprogramming and you too can come to the understanding that liberalism has done some great things. (ended slavery, women’s right to vote, Civil Rights, SS, Medicare). Thanks to liberalism in the USA. We do not want a huge Fed Gov, We want to get things (handed to us) as the propaganda states. We want to work to making this country more fair for everyone. Even you Nancy. :-)

      • DaveH

        Talk about some necessary deprogramming, Dave.
        Dave67 says — “liberalism has done some great things. (ended slavery, women’s right to vote, Civil Rights, SS, Medicare).
        Liberals didn’t end slavery. They just presented the illusion of ending it as a war measure to keep the south from seceding from the unholy Union. Read the book “The Real Lincoln” by Thomas DiLorenzo to learn some truth. And giving somebody Civil Rights by giving certain classes of people special rights is NOT the road to “fairness”. Instead it leads to resentment and conflict. The odd thing is that the Liberals, who claim to have delivered us from Slavery, are currently enslaving all of us with their Big Expensive Government.
        Social Security is simply an example of Government Theft. No man has a moral right to take your money away for our own good. Even if it worked it would have been morally wrong, but expecting Government, with their unaccountability and power of force, to prudently invest our money is just plain ignorant. The same goes for Medicare. Individuals, on average, spend and invest their own money much more wisely than Government could or does. Those who simply cannot think on their own could hire the services of private professionals to guide their spending and investing. Leave the rest of us alone. Get your Liberal hands out of our pockets, Dave67.

      • Dave67

        DaveH

        Once again, you have no clue… SS is theft????

        Before Social Security, almost half of elderly Americans had income below the poverty line, reports the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities. Roughly 12 percent of elderly citizens are considered poor today. The program lifted more than 11 million out of poverty — more than 60 percent of those were women.

        Guess what? People like the program and you can’t stand it.

        Tell me about the conservatives on the front line demanding an end to slavery, women to vote and civil rights (Hoover I believe called MLK a “communist” but then you go into the standard conservative talking points yet again how we want Gov to take care of everything.

        Get educated…

      • DaveH

        Once again, Dave67 must resort to name-calling and other forms of Liberal manipulation since his logic has no legs.
        Yes, Social Security is Theft. Whenever a person, or group of persons, takes somebody else’s wealth against their will, it IS theft. I realize that the concept is too much for your diminutive brain, but it has nothing to do with my education and everything to do with your lack of it.
        If you want Social Security, then participate. But if you force others to participate against their wills, don’t try to assuage your guilt with word games. Just man-up and admit that you are just a common Thief.

      • Dave67

        Why DaveH, I did not realize you were an anarchist. See societies run on responsibility to the group, whether it be the community, town, city , country, state or country.

        I do not want my money going to farm subsidies… Yet it does
        I do not want my money going to oil subsidies… Yet it does.

        SS is a proven social safety net. It has a track record of successfully helping seniors stay out of the poor house. It is a part of the social compact we should all have as Americans.

        But you are different… You want to stand on the shoulders of those Gov policies and keep every last penny for yourself because TODAY you are younger and have means, TODAY you don’t need as much HC as an older person. But tomorrow, you may need help and it are those that help support this society that will give you that hand up…

        But I am sure your foolish pride will tell you to reject that hand up.

  • mark

    Yeah, Obama wants to destroy the U.S. economy so he will definitely lose the election?! Like most of the articles on this site, this one makes no sense whatsoever. But what has logic ever got to do with true believers and fanatics.

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      I don’t think he’s going to lose the election. I think it’s fixed! Ask yourself, why isn’t romney speaking out? Why wasnt he screaming when obummer announced that we weren’t going to enforce the laws on illegal aliens? Why isn’t romney pointing out all of the non healthcare related things in the healthcare bill? Why isn’t he screaming about the healthcare rationing in the bill? Why isnt he screaming about the fact that illegal aliens will get free healthcare? Why isnt he screaming about all the companies that got their waivers and dont have to pay? Why isnt he screaming about the unjustness of forcing a church (who believes that birth control and abortion is a sin) to pay for birth control and abortion? No waivers for churches, huh? Why did we hear barely a peep out of him after the supreme court decision? Why do we hear barely a peep out of him about anything?!? Why isn’t he pounding obummer on the economy? Why isn’t he pointing out that the new way they figure the statistics isn’t accurate, that things are even worse than they appear? Why do we hear almost nothing from him??? There is so much ammunition that he could use. He could squash obummer with the truth alone. Yet, what we hear is silence or a few stale talking points. I don’t think that romney is trying to win. I think that he’s just a figurehead to give us the illusion of having a choice! I think the decision has been made. The agenda has been set and is going forward! Get ready for it!!!

  • Nancy in Nebraska

    So are they greedy idiots who just want to get theirs and don’t care about anything else? Or are they power hungry idiots who want to bring everything down so they can implement a “one world government” or a “new world order”? I think it’s both. The regular politicians only care about getting reelected. Their existence depends upon the “old boy” system of kickbacks and payoffs. They’re so busy playing the game, they’re not paying attention to the big picture and don’t care. There may be a few who care but they’re easily squashed. I believe that there is an “elite” who have an agenda to control everyone and everything. It is my belief that they work for satan and get their power directly from him. They want to destroy everything so that the people will have no choice but to come to them(him). The regular politicians were greedy and got themselves caught up. They sold their souls and now there’s nothing they can do. Now the rest of us are going to face the biggest battle of our lives. When faced with starvation and despair, what will we do? I think the warning is loud and clear. If you don’t do something to prepare for what is coming, you will be faced with the toughest decision of your life. Your life depends on it. Do you trust your life to these people?!?

    • Theodore

      The greed in America is most apparent from the top. Lobbyists are paid from the large corporations to influence our elected representatives. Here are some glaring facts:
      These are the large corporation CEO salaries (compiled during the current worldwide recession) by country:
      Ratio of CEO pay per worker
      Japan 11.1%
      Germany 12.1%
      France 15.2%
      USA 475.2%
      Despite the failures of many major US corporations, the top end CEO executive salaries have been on the rise (a bonus for failure and a ripoff to workers and shareholders).
      The next constitutional amendment should be to disallow political contributions to any person running for public office.

  • Polski

    love the comments here. Fanatics on both sides. They’re ALL crooks. So how do we recover? The crooks are our “representatives”. Just the worst of all nightmares.

  • FreedomFighter

    Is President Obama Intentionally ‘Destroying’ America?

    YES!!!

    Is President Obama Intentionally ‘Destroying’ America?
    http://townhall.com/columnists/davidlimbaugh/2012/07/10/is_president_obama_intentionally_destroying_america/page/full/

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Nancy in Nebraska

      Good article! Thanks for posting the link!

    • Dave67

      FF,

      You are a funny guy… In the link, Mr Limbaugh paints Obama as a “leftist radical” What is radical about Obama?

      You took two GOP ideas and put them together and made the HC law
      He did a second bank bailout
      He continues the GOP’s Patriot Act
      Reduced the number of Fed Employees on the books
      Ending Bush’s BS wars
      Killed Bin Laden

      Give me something he has done that is leftist “radical” in nature?

      Your rhetoric and Mr Limbaugh’s Rhetoric doesn’t match reality.

      But go ahead… come up with something…. anything that makes Center Right governing Obama a “leftist radical”

      Did Obama break up the banks? No
      Did Obama demand a public option in HC No
      Has Obama put in a brief challenging the Citizen’s United Decision? No
      Obama had both the management of GM and the Unions give up things before he saved GM.

      More right wing extremist nonsense from you.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Why would you think O is a radical since his worldview is exactly like yours.

      • Dave67

        Nadzieja Batk, I will put it to you then…

        What is radical leftist about what Obama has dome as president? Anything?

        • http://gravatar.com/rocquedog rocquedog

          Dude, there’s so much that I could put down that there’s not enough room on this site. Already, he’s committed over 29 impeachable offenses. If you really don’t know, then there’s no hope for you so just keep drinking the kool aid. When you’re sitting in one of the 800 FEMA camps that are across our nation and currently being staffed (need a job???), think back on your retarded question!

      • DaveH

        Dave67 says — “[Obama] took two GOP ideas and put them together and made the HC law”.
        Sure Dave. Then explain to us why the vast majority of the votes on the Healthcare Bill came from Democrats?
        Dave67 says — “He did a second bank bailout”. “He continues the GOP’s Patriot Act”.
        Two wrongs make a right now, Dave?
        And you want something that makes Obama a Leftist Radical?
        How about his extreme efforts to pull a scam on the American People with the Fast and Furious program in his efforts to ban guns?
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFIpoL3jrfo

        Dave67 says — “Did Obama demand a public option in HC No”.
        Obama said — “I continue to believe that a public option within the basket of insurance choices would help improve quality and bring down costs”.
        He wanted a public option, he just couldn’t get it.

      • DaveH

        Dave67 said — “Obama had both the management of GM and the Unions give up things before he saved GM”.
        Right Dave, whatever you say.
        For those who just can’t swallow the Liberal misinformation:
        http://www.cato.org/publications/congressional-testimony/lasting-implications-general-motors-bailout

      • Dave67

        DaveH,

        You again, have alot of words but do not say much…. radical leftist? 2nd Amendment as conservatives see it? Is that why he passed a law allowing guns on Fed land because he hates guns? Come on… your silliness about an end-around on guns doesn’t wash.

        DaveH, you go nothing on the question I have on anything Obama has done to make him a “radical” leftist. The HC law as is was passed was called a compromise. Conservatives should look up that word and use it once and a while.

        The GOP’s only mission is to continue their social engineering mission to blame the deficit on social programs only and never the 30 year low taxes we are paying and the wars they started and to make sure Obama and the country fail while we are in sever recession for nothing more than to regain power.

      • Dave67

        And its quote apparent rocquedog, that you have nothing to justify the “radical leftist” charge that you and the rest of the right wing loons level at Obama as he has governed as President.

        Have a wonderful day in right wing la la land.

      • Dave67

        Nancy,

        You say there is no difference between the GOP and Dems and that both are radical leftists

        Here is the Definition:

        The faction representing extreme left-wing political views, often Marxist or Maoist in ideology. The far left promotes social justice and egalitarianism, may exhibit opposition and even aggression towards stratified economic, political and social establishments, and is typically hostile towards people associated with a stratified establishment.

        Tell me how Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan fit this please…

      • DaveH

        Dave67 (Flashman?) says — “Is that why he passed a law allowing guns on Fed land because he hates guns”.
        What law is that, Dave67? Perhaps you could post some references since it’s obvious from your previous statements that you fabricate facts.
        Here’s an article with a different view of things:
        http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/11/16/obama-pushing-shooters-off-public-lands

      • Dave67

        To DaveH

        http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/18/AR2010021805124.html

        “The Bush administration had lifted the ban on concealed weapons in its final months, after pressure from gun rights groups, including the National Rifle Association. But a federal judge blocked the move last year. The Obama administration declined to appeal the ruling, and Congress passed the law. President Obama signed the measure without comment as part of a credit card reform package”

        Believe the La Pierre scare tactics and propaganda if you wish. I won’t.

      • Deerinwater

        Dave67, they have learned to use “stupid’ as a weapon and can tell lies 6 times faster then you can debunk one. They have had 3 years and 6 months to fabricate and spread them about. The lies have been repeated so many times they are now taken as true. They have been programmed by Fox Noise to believe only in Fox, that has the power and ability to make Palm tree grow in Wisconsin.

        Choose your battle carefully or you are just boxing a shadow. Hammer their sorry track record they have created and want to forget. ~ and don’t fall for their “Stupid” .

        They want to forget about the Right Wing Christian Collation, passed Conservative Administrations. They want to forget about investing 7 trillion dollars in a big cat box, dead and crippled soldiers and children growing up without a father. They want to forget about “W’s” Wall Street bail out in Oct. of 2008. There is a lot they don’t want to talk about that brought us here to the crossroads, waist deep in a swamp full of gators and snakes.

      • Dave67

        I know Deer, DaveH thinks he knows it all because he has the right wing propaganda down cold and is an expert on economic THEORY which does not play in the real world.

        They have been taught well by their corp masters. Dick Armey and the Koch Brothers are laughing at them all.

    • Dave67

      rocquedog,

      The question is the absurd idea that Obama is a radical leftist. You got anything?

      • http://rockdog1113dothushmaildotcom.wordpress.com rocquedog

        Come on, man! Are you serious??? Read his book! Look at the classes he took in school!! Look at his friends, acquaintances!!! Look at how his policies/exec. orders follow along with the Communist Manifesto! Open your eyes, man! 2+2=what???

      • Dave67

        Ok rocquedog I will try and type slower for you so even you can understand.

        WWWWWWHAAAATTTT HAAASSS OBAMMMMMA DOOONNNE ASSSS PRESSSIDENTTTT TOOOOOOO WARRRENTTTT BEINGGGGGGGG CALLLLLLLLLLED AAAAAAA RADICALLLLL LEFTISTTTTTT?

        Was another bank bailout radical leftist?
        How about taking the two GOP ideas and making the HC law?
        How about reducing the number of federal employees on the books?
        Continuing the GOP’s Patriot Act?

        Because it sounds to me like you have nothing.

        • http://rockdog1113dothushmaildotcom.wordpress.com rocquedog

          It’s quite apparent that you can’t extrapolate worth a crap. Like they say, “you can’t teach pigs to fly”. In your case, you can’t even jump!!!

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Ok, Dave. I’ll tell you why obummer’s a radical leftist! But don’t jump all over me about the GOP being radical leftists too. I agree, they are too. No difference! We’re talking about obummer! Not the GOP!
        1) he was born and raised by communists.
        2) he wants to fundamentally change this nation.
        3) he studied and trained under communists.
        4) he worked for acorn.
        5) he is a member of the third party (I forget, is that what it’s called?) yeah, jump all over me because I don’t want to take the time to look it up.
        6) he passed obummercare which IS a radical leftist program (even if some GOP agreed)
        7) he is passing all kinds of environmental programs that are making private ownership of property difficult. These regulations are also making it more difficult to heat our homes.
        8) he has passed so many regulations dictating what food we can eat, what food we can grow, what we can buy and sell.
        9) he has sided with illegal aliens over US citizens. He allows them to be here illegally and take jobs that could go to Americans. Under his healthcare plan ILLEGAL aliens get FREE healthcare while American citizens must pay.
        10) he has given billions of OUR money to his campaign contributors (I know, the GOP does too. Restrain yourself. This is about obummer).
        11) his representative stated before the senate that obummer answers only to the UN, not the senate. He takes his orders from a foreign body!
        12) he is going to sign the law of the sea treaty and the small arms treaty. He is giving OUR power, freedom and liberty to the UN!
        13) he has not gotten rid of the patriot act (I know, it was put out by bush, but is obummer weren’t a radical leftist he would have gotten rid of it!
        14) he gave us the ndaa which takes away our constitutional rights
        15) he signed an executive order that says he can take our bank accounts, houses, cars, money, food and water. (I know, others have done the same. It still makes him a radical leftist!)
        16) he started his own private army. It’s in the healthcare bill, a domestic force under his personal control to be better equipped than the armed forces.
        17) he took away our right to protest the government (whenever secret service is present, that pretty much overs it) another constitutional right gone!
        18) he hasn’t gotten rid of the dept of homeland security (I know, bush created it). They spy on us and interfere with our lives. They’re gathering info on us and saying that WE are terrorists. That’s government of the people, by the people, for the people, right?
        19) he’s protecting the criminal eric holder, using executive privilege inappropriately.
        20) he’s creating divisions amongst the people, rich vs poor, black vs white, straight vs homosexual, men vs women, pro baby killing vs pro life, pro welfare vs pro independence, and pro gun vs anti gun. he’s the most decisive president we’ve ever had. Divide and conquer!
        21) he’s forcing pro life people to pay for killing babies!
        22) he has a hit list
        23) he’s spying on American citizens with drones
        24) he wants to raise the taxes on the rich because it’s not fair that they have more money
        25) he wants to BANKRUPT this nation

        I could go on but I’m tired and getting depressed. Now remember, we’re talking about obummer, not the GOP. They could be a whole nother post. Don’t defend obummer based on what they do because I’m not saying that they aren’t radical leftists too!

        obummer is a radical leftist and he wants to fundamentally change this nation by turning it to communism!

      • Dave67

        Nancy,

        Once again, you lay out GOP/Conservative talking points that are NOT leftist. Many of which you stated were policies also followed by Bush… He is a leftist now too?

        I am disappointed you throw up such nonsense but you need someone to blame for the corporatism in Gov we have today.

        I wonder if Romney gets in, will you be this angry at Romney when he does all this and more… But then the blame will shift I am sure to any Democrat in Congress you don’t like.

        Your list is so ridiculous, its not even worth refuting line by line.

        You like DaveH and all the others have not shown how Obama has goverened as a radical leftist… more like a rightist in the Bush 2 vein if anything

      • DaveH

        Ahh, you gotta love Liberals. NOT.
        The more you claim Obama is not Leftist, Dave67 (Flashman?), the less credible you make yourself look. But that’s great, Dave67. Keep posting. We need fine examples of Liberalism like yourself to wake the fence-straddlers up to reality.
        http://www.examiner.com/article/the-most-left-wing-president-ever-obama-policies-undermine-democracy-security-and-the-rule-of-law

      • DaveH

        Dave67 says to Nancy — “Your list is so ridiculous, its not even worth refuting line by line”.
        You debate like a 12-year old, Dave67. The truth is that you can’t refute her list, so you must instead resort to Liberal Manipulation. Such a child.

      • DaveH

        Nancy says — “But don’t jump all over me about the GOP being radical leftists too. I agree, they are too”.
        Then Dave67 says to Nancy (in his infinite wisdom) — “I wonder if Romney gets in, will you be this angry at Romney when he does all this and more”?
        Duh, Dave, did you even read Nancy’s comment?
        The more you post, Dave67, the more ignorant you appear.

      • Dave67

        To Nancy and DaveH because you both are “believers”. Please answer DaveH can you?
        ————————————–

        Nancy,

        You say there is no difference between the GOP and Dems and that both are radical leftists

        Here is the Definition:

        The faction representing extreme left-wing political views, often Marxist or Maoist in ideology. The far left promotes social justice and egalitarianism, may exhibit opposition and even aggression towards stratified economic, political and social establishments, and is typically hostile towards people associated with a stratified establishment.

        Tell me how Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan fit this please…

      • Nancy in Nebraska

        Fits them to a tee!

    • Dave67

      Nancy,

      You will have to do better than that. How are the fitting that to a tee? Give me specifics.

  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    It sounds good but what do you do when the money the Treasury is printing counterfeit money. There is no commodity backing up the printed dollars. No gold, no silver or anything else. The Federal Reserve Notes were based on using America’s wealth as collateral. Now that’s collateralized, wealth of America is in hock. Sure the powers that be are putting the arm to the gulf states in the Mid East to only sell oil for dollars creating a false value to the dollar but how long can we live the lie? All the transactions involving dollars are being at the point of a gun or done by people denying truth. Ron Paul gave us a plausible solution but we picked the mormon Romney. Study up on Austrian Economics by Ludwig Von Mises. That’s the school Ron Paul went to.

    • nc

      Christian, have you ever figured out how we got to be the leading nation in the world without Lud wig and Mr.,Paul. Democrats have been kind to the free market system (Wall Street loves the Democrats))) but have not allowed it to completely dictate to the lives of the labor force that drives the system! We got there together until “together” became a dirty word to the Republicans who found themselves on the outside and declared what they would do what they had to do to regain the power the people took from them when the bush foreign policy and fiscal policy brought us our lowest point in 70+years! RUIN THE ECONOMY JUST TO REGAIN THE WHITE HOUSE””” WHERE IS THAT IN THE CONSTITUTION OR COMMON SENSE?????

  • http://gravatar.com/rocquedog rocquedog

    God, Guns and Groceries folks. It’s too late to do anything but prepare for the great evil that is taking place.

    • Power To The People

      Agreed….stock up….the ride will be rough!

      • nc

        Power, I am so glad to know you are there and ready to ride your trusty steed toward the gates of Fort Knox with yer guns ablazin” to “retake” my country for me!! CAN’T WAIT FOR THE VIDEO OF THEM INTERVIEWING YOUR FAMILY AND THIRD GRADE TEACHER AS TO WHEN YOU “LOST TOUCH”!!
        BTW, THERE ARE AT LEAST 70 MILLION AMERICANS INCLUDING ME AT LAST COUNT WHO DON’T BELIEVE ANYONE HAS STOLEN OUR COUNTRY OR CONSTITUTION. PARANOIA IS A MENTAL DISEASE AND CAN BE TREATED!

    • Tom Tee

      The BONEHEAD is you. Go back to 1st grade and try to make it to second grade!

  • Patriot

    During our country’s birth prior to the Revolutionary War, there were about 45% of the people that did not want to break away for the tyrannical British Government and stay with the Status Quo. I could never imagine how that could be, until now! As our country is sinking at the rate of the Titanic there are people still writing in support of Obama, the biggest liar and deceiver to ever hold public office. It sickens me that some of my fellow countrymen are so ignorant to what is happening to them and will not know until the water boils them to death. I firmly believe, that if these brainwashed folks, are lying in the street dying of starvation they would still try to blame anyone but themselves or Obama. This is Amazing to me!

    Never thought I would see this day! I for one will Never Give Up on my country, I will protect the liberties and freedoms that so many of our past generations have fought for, never will I let the Dream die!

    Give me Liberty or Give me death, there is truly no other way!

    • Theodore

      This country survived the Great Depression of 1929 when Herbert Hoover was president and the unemployment rate was at 34%. It took 14 years to bring our economy back to normal.

      The Bush-Cheney-Obama recession is in its 6th year and struggling to keep on an even keel without sinking any further. Many US citizens are too eager to give up and too short sighted to give this great country a chance to recover.

      Let there be a new incentive for a constitutional amendment to disallow any political contributions and also to disallow political lobbying of any kind.

      • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

        Theodore—-During the 29 depession they still had gold and silver to back up the dollar to some degree but FDR stole it all the Gold. Nixon in 72 stole the silver. Now? Gold and silver as commodites to cover the printing of dollars is GONE. The wealth of the nation to back up Federal Reserve Notes (FRN’s) is GONE. All that’s left to back up the printing of dollars is the printing presses to print counterfeit dollars. The presses have printed more than $16,000,000,000,000 sixteen trillion dollars, uncollateralized. How can you compare today with 1929? Greece’s per capita debt in around $33,000 while ours is over $47,000, and that does not include the state debt. That could push each individuals debt to over$100,000

    • Power To The People

      The foolish, misguided, brainwashed and leeches on the federal tit!

  • Dave

    Repeal Federal Government, let the states keep the money instead of sending it the money handlers in DC who will skim off their take on every deal.

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      Repeal the 14th, 16th and 17th Amendments. That would be a start to making our Constitution worth something. It would get the Fed out of our lives to some extent.

  • http://None Mike C

    This pretty much sums it up: “government progressives who can never find a dollar to cut in the budget, for fear of offending one group, or one person, or one voter.”

    But of course we vote for these clowns. We pay their salaries. We fund the madness.

    • Power To The People

      Correction….we do not voluntarily fund the madness…we have no real say! Voting is a joke….the process is stacked and rigged to keep the power merchants in power all the while they pillage the corpse of what was a proud nation.

  • Wim Vonk

    If it is a world wide problem and not just Obama’s fault, then why is the headline calling it an Obama depression.Sensations seeking for those that hate Obama. I hope Romney wins and then i want to see who you conservatives are going to blame.

    • http://None Mike C

      Wim, because it happened the fastest under his watch. His solution to the debt problekm was to create more debt. He failed to come up with any private sector solutions. He failed to make it easier for companies to do business in the US. He failed to follow through on his promise to end NAFTA. As it became clear that his policies were failing, and the economy was spiraling into despair, he played golf and lobbed daily attacks on Romney. All this on our dime.

      If you want to defend a man who goes around apologizing for the US, fails to follow through on campaign promises such as using diplomacy in the Middle East (Libya), and ranks Sitting Bull as an American hero then by all means you have the right to do so… but I would say you are just plain nuts.

      • Theodore

        Mike C.

        Wrong assumption: The Bush era unemployment rate started at 4.3% and ended up at 7.6%. The Obama administration employment rate began at 7.6% and is now 8.5% This is in reality a Bush-Obama phenomenon and under Obama the unemployment rate has remained around 8.5%. The Bush-Cheney wars in the Middle East are now subsiding and willl hopefully be resolved in the very near future.

      • nc

        Mike, No Presidents,, including Reagan and certainly not the two bushes kept all of their campaign promises! Sitting Bull held a longer and better rigth to the land he was defending than the newly arrived American Calvary!
        Several countries in the most volitile part of the world changed hands with vilolent revolts and Obama guided our foreign policy in such a way that we are now in a relationship with the new governments, the governments THEY chose for THEIR countries! AND WE LOST NOT A MAN!
        This IS a President that Republicans ANNOUNCED to the world was soft andwould not defend our nation? Remember?? Has any nation jumped us? This was the President that the Republicans, who presided over the biggest terrorist attack in our history, ANNOUNCED TO THE WORLD WAS TOO SOFT AGAINST TERRORIST! BIN LADEN IS DEAD WITH MANY OTHERS AND NO ONE IS STEALING OUR PLANES AND USING THEM TO KILL OUR PEOPLE!

    • Power To The People

      Not a conservative…my views are moderate but I see Obumer and his band of merry commies for what they are. Too bad so many people think this is a liberal versus conservative war…not so….its about a way of life and who has the power and who are powerless.

      • Theodore

        The fall of Communism dates back to 1989 – roughly 23 years ago. Communism has been virtually dead for over 30 years with no signs of life remaining. Here is a joke:

        Commisar Ivan asks Dimitry what he thinks of the current regieme in Moscow.
        Dimitry andwers: My views are exactly the same as yours.
        Commisar Ivan answers: Dimitry, it is then my duty to arrest you !!

  • ALL AMERICAN

    So, how do we survive???…
    Vote ‘em all out in November.

  • cerebus23

    I am sorry but you think obama is shocked that communism does not work?

    What has been going on in europe for decades now? Have they not been doing socialism at a breakneck pace in europe and have seen that it is unaffordable period. What happened to the soviet union?

    Socialism does not work because despite humans being social creatures we also have a burning need to seperate ourselves show our individuality, be the alpha, etc. Humans are rarely happy when they cannot point the finger at someone else and say i am better than them, or lest think it to themselves, because it is something i see common to the most liberal human to the most conservative human.

    So you cannot possibly force a entire society to be equal, nor can you control the equals that end up in power hoarding everything for themselves while everyone else starves. Since i have yet to not see a communist dictator where he and his friends lived high off the hog where everyone else can rot as long as they keep the miliary bought off of course, in a communist society your army is most definately not and equal they get fed, they get equipped, and most importantly they get a bigger paycheck than the others out there, not as much as the guys at the top but doing better.

    I do not think our country will go full socialist tho, anymore than europe has done, they flirted with it some are still flirting with it but most have them have figured out they simply cannot afford these social programs.

    No our country will collapse long before that could happen.

    But i really have a large problem with politicians being shocked with their big mega decisions almost to a one directly raping the american people and their children. Or helping to trigger global recessions, or skyrocketing the cost of living over night when you mandated ethanol subs and drove the cost of everything up, really politicians never look to see how much stuff corn is in? Or depressing the value of your currency excessively and purposely, which has garnered you warnings from your allies since lest bush 2 when you got your best bud tony blaire telling you knock it off, maybe you should pay attention.

    Either way when we get our international monetary status yanked one of these years or months, then we will see the utter collapse of the federal government, oh happy day. If they skate on that one i will start my own war these guys have sold us out deliberately step by step of the way here and continue to spend and spend and tell us we need more government we need more spending, all them should be charged with treason nothing less.

    What they need to do now is cut spending, cut programs, war on drugs turn the choices over to the states cut the budget 60% or eliminate it, get rid of obama care, scrap each and every rule and regulation in the books ever created by the fed, quit tinkering in the markets in peoples lives and, guess what free markets work pretty decent, free markets with a active blue collar shareholders work even better and if the press actually does it job in a free market system people will vote with their wallets and their voices, companies fail that do bad stuff, companies thrive that do “good” stuff or lest dont get caught. any and all social programs have to go, medicare socal etc have to be made solivent or shifted over to the states.

    I see alot of the jobs of the feds just simply put in states hands, then states can decide how resources get distributed and etc not some bean counter in washington 1000s of miles away. with another 30 layers of bureaucracy to work through. most states have their own social programs anyway, if they were beefed up more people hired on many of the federal socal roles could be rolled up into the respective states. cut out the feds entirely.

    flat tax, some sort either way you make xxxxx you pay x, maybe a few lines for deductions charity student children, get rid of the irs or maybe just make them 12 guys in a room so conspiracy theorists got a target.

    all would be good starts to fixing the mess we are in, but we cannot even get them talking about the looming disaster coming because running around yelling the “sky is falling” does not get you elected it just gets you branded a nut by the press, because god knows the press is the keeper of all that is sane and good for tv(sarcasm). and politicans will not even mention social security medicare and medicade if they can help it, because each and every one of them knows that they have to stop spending, raise taxes massively, print 2 to 4 ish trillion in cash assume we still can by then, scrap the programs, or the feds just go belly up.

  • Power To The People

    The only solution is to trash most of the federal monster and rebuild in the light of the guiding principles of most power rests with the states and the federal government has limited powers and a much smaller footprint. Obumer has grown the federal monster 10 times faster than under Reagan, 4 times faster than Clinton….this is madness!

    We are a larger version of Greece!

  • Jimmy The Greek

    The man sead get gold , i say guns and ammo is what you need to be storing and hiding in different places were they can be gotten to after the ZOG comes for the ones you give them . What is happening is the early stages of The zionist bankers master plan to enslave the world .

  • Olin Ross

    If Obama policies is so anti business explain to us dummies why these robber baron companies have set revenues records during the last 3+ years…These voodoo economic theories are just that…….and why the stock market broke through the 13000 mark and set a record under Obama……Seem to me the stock market really like Obama to me…

    • Theodore

      The greed in America is most apparent from the top. Lobbyists are paid from the large corporations to influence our elected representatives. Here are some glaring facts:
      These are the large corporation CEO salaries (compiled during the current worldwide recession) by country:
      Ratio of CEO pay per worker
      Japan 11.1%
      Germany 12.1%
      France 15.2%
      USA 475.2%
      Despite the failures of many major US corporations, the top end CEO executive salaries have been on the rise (a bonus for failure and a ripoff to workers and shareholders).

      The large banks have always exhibited a desire to keep secret their money flow, to maximize profits, and to avoid paying their taxes through loopholes in the tax law.
      A strict bank restriction law with stiff penalties as well as jail sentences should be legislated by the next president.

    • nc

      Olin, you will get a lot of flack here from the wingnuts for telling these truths but you want get an admission of non-Democrat complicity in state of the economy when Republicans left office. Neither will they supply you with figures to support thise claims that “they” have been better at running the free market system! Vigilant says the stock market is no indicator of the state of the economy but he fails to explain why there are several TV networks and programs and many many publications ded
      icated to following its numbers! Are they playing bingo with those numbers? Many have made millions studing them! BUT THEY MEAN NOTHING???????????????
      Obama inherited a broken economy and received only opposition from the Republicans in his efforts to correct it with a promise from their leaders that they would wreck what was left if that was what it took to regain the White House they left with the shame of a 24% approval rating in 2009!

  • revnowwhilewecan

    It has begun! Who wants to put bankers in jail? One at a time please!
    The EU finance regulator, Michel Barnier is standing up to the powerful bank lobby and championing reform that would put bankers behind bars for fraud like this. If the EU goes first, accountability could quickly spread across the globe. But the banks are lobbying hard against it, and we need a massive surge of people power to drive these reforms through.
    http://www.avaaz.org/en/bankers_behind_bars_f/?fbb

  • Tom Tee

    Yea the President saves us from the depression Bush tried to cause to start his own. How stupid are you?

  • Justice4All

    There is a lot of MAD out here. Too much pointing fingers. Too much name calling. Too much destruction of this (once) GREAT COUNTRY!
    If we, the majority, do in deed desire to regain our place as the very best government in this world, where should we start? It is true that we are just mere humans with many imperfections. Because the normal thing is that we look for what we think will be best for ourselves. We hang ourselves on those that take advantage of this weakness, i.e., “HOPE and CHANGE” rhetoric that actually means nothing.
    We were made to have more intelligence than the other animals that are here with us. Why did we give that up? Maybe we just got tired. Something like Let Someone Else Guide Us, so we will not have to carry the heavy load of self preservation. That has never worked! But, there is always those that will attempt to control the minds, body, and spirit of the weak.

    GOD Bless The U.S.A.

  • Tom Tee

    Yea the President saves us from the BUSH DEPRESSION to star his own!! How stupid are YOU????

  • HKaufman

    Reading all these Articles just proves one thing that this campaign is nothing but one big who has got the bigger BullS*** theory..

  • needfulthings

    How To Survive An Obama Great Depression ?
    I’m into avoidance of such events. Taking steps to stop it is how I roll, but keep voting for conservative republicans and it will happen.

    • Dave67

      You do realize that 10T of our debt is directly attributed to Conservative Republican policies? You do realize the 3T Iraq war was started by Conservative Republicans? You do realize that Conservative Republicans put for tax cuts that cost the treasury 1.9T while the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were going on?

      Nah… Just stay with the brainwashing that tells you Conservatives in the GOP don’t spend money, they care about debt and are fiscally responsible.

      • DaveH

        You haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about, Dave67. There are few Conservative Republican Leaders. The majority are Big Government advocates who would trample the Constitution as willingly as the Democrats.
        You could get a clue by reading this book:
        http://mises.org/Books/historyofmoney.pdf

        But then, Dave67 (Flashman?), you don’t really want to get a clue do you? I suspect you are here solely to misinform the less-educated readers so as to deter them from learning some reality.

      • Dave67

        You have excuses for all of your conservative leadership’s failures don’t you DaveH? That is the great thing about being a conservative, deflect, deny and non-accountability.

        Reagan Tripled the US debt with HIS policies
        Bush 1, Doubled the US Debt.
        Bush 2 Doubled the debt and counting because his tax cuts and his wars are being still tallied… Obama tried to get rid of the tax cuts for the wealthy who are paying 60 year low taxes but the GOP held unemployment insurance hostage unless Obama continued those ignorant tax cuts during a time of two wars.

        So don’t sit there and tell be those three presidents are not conservative.

        They are not leftist and they are not liberal.

    • Theodore

      The great depression of 1929 was under Herbert Hoover and lasted for 14 years. The great 21st century recession began during George Bush’s 2nd term. Both of these presidents were conservative Republicans.

      • DaveH

        Neither Truman nor Bush were Conservative Republicans. Truman began much of the Government meddling that Franklin Roosevelt railed against but later adopted as his own.
        You could learn some reality by reading this book, but only if you want to learn some reality:
        http://mises.org/rothbard/agd.pdf

      • Dave67

        DaveH has multiple excuses for conservative behavior. Conservatives are perfect… They are NEVER responsible for anything.

  • NoteToSelf

    Yep, both parties keep kicking the can down the road. What do I do? If the public overwhelmingly withheld their endorsement of either party’s policies by not voting yes to either of them their power could be broken since only by public consent are they operating. That won’t happen! So baton down the hatches and save yourself (if you can). Work on yourself. It may be too late for me but will still try to implement personal and financial growth measures to juice my chances where I can.

  • JOSEPH FOSTER

    We have today a broken Government; both political parties are mired in failure. Unfortunately History repeats itself and to day what we are witnessing has occurred over and over for the past 1000 years. The destruction of the west has begun and it is very difficult to reverse the trend. We have lost our monopoly in manufacturing and fail to address the problem, we have failed to make a change, a new leader before being elected as President promised the American people change, but when he got elected he made no change, It was business as usual. Capitalism has now been addicted to cheap Labor. I had some problem with my AOL software and spend one hour talking to technician in India, These technicians were once Americans or Europeans employed to serve their customer, but AOL and other business prefer to hire low paid workers, which elevate profit and no longer want to hire local nationals, they are too expensive when compared to Indian workers that work for $300.00 per month some may say what is the solution a difficult answer. Here are some recommendations if you are wealth buy farm Land for cash, others Gold, and others buy some of Warren Buffett favorite stocks that pay dividends and diversify your portfolio. If you are extermely rich do as the Russians and some of the Arab oil barons are doing right now, buy prime London property. I see the future bleak for recovery and in time we may experience hyperinflation. Hang on to your home do not sell in time as paper money loose value property prices will begin to climb. Just pray that we get out of the mess. Author ‘’Seeing Red’’ ‘How America is losing the future’ Available at: http://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Red-Joseph-Foster/dp/1613468121/”

    We have today a broken Government; both political parties are mired in failure. Unfortunately History repeats itself and to day what we are witnessing has occurred over and over for the past 1000 years. The destruction of the west has begun and it is very difficult to reverse the trend. We have lost our monopoly in manufacturing and fail to address the problem, we have failed to make a change, a new leader before being elected as President promised the American people change, but when he got elected he made no change, It was business as usual. Capitalism has now been addicted to cheap Labor. I had some problem with my AOL software and spend one hour talking to technician in India, These technicians were once Americans or Europeans employed to serve their customer, but AOL and other business prefer to hire low paid workers, which elevate profit and no longer want to hire local nationals, they are too expensive when compared to Indian workers that work for $300.00 per month some may say what is the solution a difficult answer. Here are some recommendations if you are wealth buy farm Land for cash, others Gold, and others buy some of Warren Buffett favorite stocks that pay dividends and diversify your portfolio. If you are extermely rich do as the Russians and some of the Arab oil barons are doing right now, buy prime London property. I see the future bleak for recovery and in time we may experience hyperinflation. Hang on to your home do not sell in time as paper money loose value property prices will begin to climb. Just pray that we get out of the mess. Author ‘’Seeing Red’’ ‘How America is losing the future’ Available at: http://www.amazon.com/Seeing-Red-Joseph-Foster/dp/1613468121/”

  • Brenda

    How to survive a so-called Obama depression????? Vote the do-nothing party out of office that is voting daily to block any legislation that will create jobs and cut taxes for the middle class. They are so intent on trying to make President Obama look bad, and by the way it is not working, that they can’t see beyond women’s wombs. They are consistently passing useless legislation that will not help anyone. The depression was not caused by President Obama, it was caused by the reckless spending of George Bush and will definitely be made worse if Mitt Romney is elected to the Presidency. So far Mitt Romney has not told us anything that he will do to make this situation better, and he has not told the truth about anything, and he waits on the sidelines for something to react to that President Obama says or does. He according to Rick Santorum is the worst person that they picked to run for President of the United States.

    • Sam

      Brenda, Before you badmouth the Republicans in the House for blocking bills or doing useless things, please acknowledge that Harry Reid and the Democrats in the Senate have twice refused to even vote on their President’s Budget Proposal. That’s unheard of…. Obviously you are blind to what your party is doing or not doing, and spend all your time carping like a fishwife.

  • Robert Rashbrooke

    Have any of you actually gone to the link dev.republicoftheunitedstates.org and read what it says?

    If you have, then surely you must accept that all the ranting, hypotheses and opinions that are espoused here are just meaningless blather.

    Unless there is some way that the current situation, viz a viz the two Americas and the debt/bankruptcy of the American Government, can be undone without a revolution, which at the moment I cannot supply a methodology to, then no amount of voting for ANY candidate will achieve anything positive towards correcting our problems.

    What I do not understand is why no investigative journal is talking about this subject – one can appreciate why no POLITICIAN is – but not we the people, since it so adversly affects our lives.

    People like Bob Livingstone, who tell us how informed THEY are, seem to me to act more as Devil’s Advocate than seekers of solutions, raising contentious topics and letting us pontificate about them, all the while sitting back and having a quiet chuckle at our expense. Everyone is (supposedly) entitled to his/her own opinion, and posters here regularly raise the history of people or soldiers who fought to retain that right, but THIS current situation begs more than individual opinions to get it corrected; joint, collective, focused action is required.

    Once we have returned to a situation which we ought to be in, only then can the individual viewpoint be espoused as to what should operate in our sustainable, just future.

    • revnowwhilewecan
      • Robert Rashbrooke

        Rev,

        I have just been to the link you gave and watched the video, and although you may think I am being subjective, to me it re inforces my post, in that it (the video) gives the same message I tried to broadcast.

        I have to say that until very recently I was totally OBLIVIOUS to the information given in your link and the link I posted. I have not met ANYONE who knows about these details, or at least is willing to talk about them, and as inferred in the video, most people are completely indifferent to its message. I worry about the future, not for myself as I am pretty old, but for all the younger folks of 30 or less, as they will have to live most of their lives under the adverse conditions we are being programmed to accept as the norm.

        Heaven help us, though I do not believe God will do anything about the people who are trying to affect this control.

      • revnowwhilewecan

        Robert Rashbrooke,
        I’m glad you are aware also. I think you would agree that to have a dialog about these issues one must first be aware of them first. The thing I notice about a lot of these articles and blog posts is that even if I don’t agree on them I learn something new quite often. I think your assessment that ” People like Bob Livingstone, who tell us how informed THEY are, seem to me to act more as Devil’s Advocate than seekers of solutions, raising contentious topics and letting us pontificate about them, all the while sitting back and having a quiet chuckle at our expense”, is a bit harsh. Bob contributes heavily to topics not normally discussed by the MSM and it’s people like him that gets the word out so that people can know which allows people to finally take action.
        Unfortunately, sites like Bob’s are still considered “alternative”. Not by the people but the MSM would have us address a lot of the info here with that name. Good news is that more people are turning to sites like these for truth and the news here is being fast accepted by the masses. I wonder what the blog numbers were in ’08 and what they are now? I bet it’s at least 10 fold.

  • dalene44

    The only way to survive the obama depression is to get him out as chief executive ASAP.
    Obama is toxic to this country and he knows it.

    • Theodore

      The great depression of 1929 occurred during the presidency of Herbert Hoover with an unemployment rate of 34% – it took 14 more years before the USA finally recovered. The next great recession occurred during the second term of George Bush with an unemployment rate of 7.5 %. This recession is what President Obama inherited on his first day in office.

      Two Republican presidents were in office when these two catastrophies occurred.

  • Sam

    Leftists have ruined our country once again, but not to worry, the Right will fix it; as always. Here’s to the good ole days of Ronald Reagan, Bush the elder and Bush the younger!

  • truesoy

    Allyn Root;

    …but was not the near ‘Great Depression’ we were at the verge in during the last years of the Bush administration? and was not the Obama administration the one to pull us out ?, I believe it was.
    I do believe most members of this post will believe you as well as any other nonsense from the ‘right wing’ establisment due to the fact that they are either accomplished hypocrites, and/or they really believe in the ‘tooth fairy’, and therefore even if you were to tell them Obama has a secret agenda that involves killing all the orange unicorns in the Kentucky Plains, they , the right wing conservatives here, would believe you. And do you know why they’ll believe you, because conservatives believe in things they don’t understand.

    Sincerely,
    Truesoy

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