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House Starts Session With Full Reading Of Constitution

January 10, 2011 by  

House starts session with full reading of Constitution
The Tea Party's rising influence in Congress was on display Jan. 6 as the GOP-led House of Representatives staged a complete reading of the United States Constitution.

Representative Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) led the reading of the historic document, which was adopted by the nation's Founding Fathers in 1787. Goodlatte expected the address to take about 90 minutes to complete. Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-Ohio) was slated to deliver the Constitution's preamble, followed by readings by Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) and Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

In a written statement released on Jan. 4, Goodlatte said that the Constitution has never been read aloud on the House floor. He added that the reading is "long overdue," and it will "set the tone for the 112th Congress."

Some Democrats were not quite as enthusiastic about the process. Representative Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), who claims he has studied and memorized the Constitution, told The Washington Post that the "ritualistic reading" is "total nonsense."

However, experts said that constitutional allegiance is nothing new. Noah Feldman, a constitutional scholar at Harvard University, told the news provider that exalting the nation's laws is similar to how some individuals interpret the Bible. John Green, a political scientist at the University of Akron likened it to "civil religion."

"The Constitution is seen as both the source and the product of God's blessing on the United States," Green told the media outlet.

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  • Kinetic1

    “the GOP-led House of Representatives staged a complete reading of the United States Constitution.” Well, sort of. They read the “whole” constitution, with the exception of Article I, section 2 (the 3/5 clause) or the 18th Amendment (though they did read the 21st) or anything else that they felt was unnecessary. Supposedly they were skipping those areas that were amended later, but that was not entirely true. Some subject are just too intrenched. Maybe they were concerned about time, or they wanted to avoid the subject of slavery, but slavery is all over the Constitution and the 21st makes no sense without the 18th, so why bother? Slavery is a sad but real part of this country’s development and we can’t ignore it, and we learned a lot about ourselves from prohibition. That’s why we continue to print everything when we print the Constitution.

    If this picking and choosing approach to reading the Constitution was less than it deserved, it paled in comparison to the idea of having one representative after another, Republican, Democrat, first come first served (ad nauseam) read each section bit by bit. This stilted and disjointed approach did little to help any representative better understand our nation’s greatest founding document, but instead reduced it to a cheap political device. In fact, as the day wore on, representatives (including much of the leadership) left after their turn, leaving a much smaller crowd on hand when the final words were spoken. Yes, it was a great opening act that only cost the taxpayers a little over 1 million dollars. Had it not been for the hackneyed approach, or the fact that 2 Republicans violated the Constitution on the same day it was read, it might have been seen as teaching our congress a really great lesson. As it was, it was just a colossal waste of time and money to appease a single constituency.

    • http://naver samurai

      The libs don’t want to have a reading of something they don’t really know or are trying to destroy. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Nate

        Your type of mind set is what is destroying this country. You have a very polarizing and divisive personality. It’s not US against THEM! Why can’t you see that we’re all in this together. Your rhetoric is hollow and holds absolutely no weight whatsoever. Not everything is black & white. There are gray areas. If you truly believe For God and For Country you have to remember that it includes everyone and not the ones YOU feel are deserving. And of course, no one can tell you anything. You’re always right. Right?!?

        • Michael J.

          Nate said,
          “It’s not us against them, you are so polarising”.
          ——————————————————-
          Tell that to Obama who said, “You Republicans get in the back seat and shut up”. Or how about when Obama told McCain: “The election is over John, you lost”. Or how about all those closed door meetings in which Harry Pelosi and Nancy Reid put together the health care nemesis without Republicans being allowed to participate. Or Pelosi’s statement that we have to pass this (monstrousity from Hell) Healthcare Bill, to see what’s in it.

          Now that the shoe is on the other foot Democrats want to be fair and balanced. To understand Democrats, you must first understand the mind of a child.

          • Mick

            Michael J. says:
            January 10, 2011 at 7:56 am
            Nate said,
            “It’s not us against them, you are so polarising”.
            ——————————————————-
            Tell that to Obama who said, “You Republicans get in the back seat and shut up”. Or how about when Obama told McCain: “The election is over John, you lost”. Or how about all those closed door meetings in which Harry Pelosi and Nancy Reid put together the health care nemesis without Republicans being allowed to participate. Or Pelosi’s statement that we have to pass this (monstrousity from Hell) Healthcare Bill, to see what’s in it.

            Now that the shoe is on the other foot Democrats want to be fair and balanced. To understand Democrats, you must first understand the mind of a child.

            *************************************
            Michael,,,Although I agree with the first part of your post I have to disagree about the part when you compare democrats reasoning to that of a child, if our children are that devious we’re all lost……..

          • Nate

            You proved my point!

          • Kinetic1

            Michael J.
            When you use quotation marks you have to be quoting someone. President Obama’s correct quote is,

            “we can’t have special interests sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class families up in front. We don’t mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back.”

            Now you may feel that this implies that Republicans need to shut up, or you can play the race card like so many other Republicans have and twist this to suggest that the President was talking about a proverbial bus and is symbolically sending the whites to the back, but you can’t “quote” the President and then put words in his mouth.

            And while I’m here, quit whining about the health care bill. That bill would have been done months earlier if the President had not insisted on listening to, and often caving to Republican wishes. What we went in with was a plan for a universal health care system with a public option, and what came out was a version of Romney care. To suggest that everything was done without any Republican input, or that no Republican concerns were met is ridiculous. In fact, the only think more ridiculous is that President Obama insisted on trying to work with Republicans even after they told him (and the press) that they would vote no no matter what concessions were made.

          • Carole Howell

            I will repeat myself yet again, it matters not who is sitting in the WH or who controls the House or the Senate.

            Remember it was both the Republicans and the Democrats who passed the Patriot Act, the biggest assault on our rights and freedoms in our history, which are losses to us all, right/left or Dem/Rep/Ind/etc.

            I agree the divisive crap simply must stop. That is what is bringing this country down. The divisiveness and blind loyalty to political parties, who both do things not in the real interest of the people of this nation or the rest of the world for that matter.

            Let us please wake up and see how these divisive tactics from both sides, keep us (the people) from focusing on the real and very threatening problems in this nation caused by both Dems and Rep. Any of us who ignore the wrongs of our party members are contributing to our problems. Their own representatives in the House and Senate should be called to account for what they do in Congress.

            They all said they signed the Patriot Act under pressure w/o reading it. WTF? Okay they have all read it now CORRECT IT. When they felt the pressure (red flags should have gone up)that is when they should have balked, dropped every thing else and taken time to read the crap even if they had to read all night. They get paid well and it is their responsibility to the nation to know what they are signing into law.

            Obama, is no better than Bush, because he continues much of the wrongs started by Bush and protects him and his administration, in all that they did that was wrong. Then take the Banking scandal, what we need is the return to the laws and regulations that prevented these crimes ( once illegal under the Glass/Seagal Act.) But no, nothing is being done to prevent the robbery of the American people, these big banks, who were responsible for most of the wrong doing and got the bailouts because they were too big to fail, took that bail out money and bought out many smaller banks and just made themselves bigger and are continuing the same risky behavior that got them into the problems in the first place. What have they got to loose, the American tax payer will pay for their irresponsible actions.

            Wake up, they are all bought and paid for, they sold the country and it’s people out for their own gain. It will continue until we the people, insist on publicly financed elections and take the special interest money, no matter where it comes from, out of our elections.

            These people are elected to represent us, they should get no other money, except that that comes from us, the people. Corporations are not people, they do not bleed, breathe or have a conscience.

        • JC

          Actually Nate, it IS us against them. “Them” being the One World Government advocates and every agency at their disposal.

        • http://naver samurai

          First of all Nate, grow some nads and tell us who you are. You sound like flashman or the other moron rob snith. I just tell it like it is. Did you even bother to answer the other posts that are waiting for your answers or was this a blatant attempt at a hit and run? I believe in getting back to the ways of our Christian founding fathers. I also believe in self reliance, personal responsibility, and the vigilence to ensure that government remains our servants and not our masters. Let’s see what happens when a lot of Obama bin Laden’s ideas, like Obama bin Laden Care, start to disappear off of radar. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Nate

            I agree with you>> “I believe in getting back to the ways of our Christian founding fathers. I also believe in self reliance, personal responsibility, and the vigilance to ensure that government remains our servants and not our masters.”

            My point was that you & I “average citizens” & “the people” are so divided. It totally saddens me to see all the discourse. It’s like the event in Arizona yesterday. I was also appalled when seeing those “cross hair” targets on Sarah Palin’s website. One was targeting the congresswoman who got shot in the head. All that unnecessary crap is something that could have helped to push the gunman over the edge. Are you less sad for the congresswoman who got shot in the head because she’s a democrat? You’re answer will say a lot about the person you are.

          • independant thinker

            Nate, are you appaled by the liberals who use a target on peoples back to show their commitment to defeating the person? This was done to the congresswoman by one of the liberal groups.

          • Eric Bischoff

            Don’t you mean Wealthy Elite Liberal Progressive Christian Founding Fathers?

          • http://none Alex

            So, tell us who YOU really are!

            Hiding behind a name you have NO understanding of and closing your little blasts of drivel with “FOR GOD AND COUNTRY” like a true Nazi.

            Silly Teagagger, c’mon, stop hiding—tell us who you really are!
            (offensive attack removed)

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        • Mike In MI

          Nate -
          His rhetoric (Sammies) is hollow, divisive, polarizing and of no consequence to those who are full of something (that when you thump it like a watermelon it ony goes “Plik”), not divisive because they are an amorphous and slimey blob that leave a trail of sludge like a slug and have no polarity neither a hydrogen nor a flourine just an inert Radon that is basically inert but exposure to it can definitely mess up ones mental processes.
          Yeah…, we’re all in this together but it won’t last forever. Because od says at some point He’s sending the Lord Jesus Christ back and he’ll hold a little sorting ceremony for the goats. Those damn goats just never seemed willing to learn or do anything except what the Pig told ‘em.
          Yeah…, we’re in it together. We’ll continue to carry you for a while. There’s a place in the Bible that indicates that the only reason ALL Hell hasn’t broken loose is because there are people who love Him and His Word – like Samurai. One day they’ll be gone and there’ll be nothing to restrain the Devil from his job description and mission statement – Steal, Kill and Desrtoy (John 10:9-10).
          Nate, I do so enjoy your posts – whimper…whinney…and whine.

        • Teresa

          That is what is wrong w/the mind-set of the world…see how you quote the grey areas….THAT is what is wrong!!! You either choose right or you choose wrong! God gave You free will to choose right from wrong, not Grey, or straddle the fence, and when you stand for something you stand for it w/conviction! This whole concept of grey area is nothing more than tolerance or politically correct or giving up more right. You expect us to change our values in order to be more tolerant for who…MAN, the government (that works for us?)….are we slaves again? When does it end?

          • Nate

            I agree with you. Mostly, issues are black & white. And at the same time, in life, there are gray areas. My point addresses the divide between people. Not GOD. We as people can disagree without be so disagreeable to one another.

            And yes, being politically correct needs to go bye bye. I don’t expect people to change their values for anyone. I believe most people do have them.

          • Teresa

            Thank you for clarifying nate and yes I do agree that there is a divide in the nation, and we do need to work together. Yes we can debate our issues better and come up with better solutions but we need to begin w/ourself. We must all agree first that we will NOT give up our freedom, that OUR Constitution DOES stand for something, that our military loved ones DID NOT die in vein, that when we hang our flag we do so with honor, when we bow our head to our creator for this blessed nation that we Know we truly are blessed ea. and every day. We need to quit focusing on the past once and for all and deal with Now and what can We do for the future!

          • HFlashman

            Ummm Teresa….from hat i see, we should ‘work together’ and discuss..as long as we first agree with you … hokayyyyyy….

        • 45caliber

          Nate:

          The problem is that too many people are being taught in college that “there are always gray areas.”

          Is there? Really? Is there gray areas in pregnancy? How about abortion? How about Hitler’s use of concentration camps and crematoriums for the living? How about his decision to destroy the Jews, the Gypsies, and sooner or later, the blacks, Indians, etc.?? Yet many college professors are actually teaching that there are ALWAYS gray areas.

          There are actually very few cases where gray areas exist. Let’s accept that and move on.

          • HFlashman

            45..there are almost always gray areas. Few situations are black and white. There are those situations where black and white are the only options available..but those are few.

            Of course i would expect you to take the most drastic situations and say ‘this proves it”…but that’s par for the course.

            Take Concentration camps. you used Hitler and the “Jewish Solution’. You’re correct..there is no “gray area’ there. But then do you advocate support for Gitmo and the treatment of those held there? Is that not a “concentration camp”? Or a prison with chain gangs? Is that not a “concentration camp”? Or a POW camp, say during WWII?

            So the ‘gray area’ would be what does one define “concentration camp”? And what is the “camp” purpose?

            Abortion? Do you mean there are no “gray area’ to consider? Incest? Rape? Mother’s health or survival?

            It’s all relative.

        • SiliconDoc

          Nate, you act like an idiot child who hasn’t seen a single second of any of the televised Congress or news in years…
          The tone is already set at the top – and others, unlike you apparently, see what it is.
          If you were an adult you’d realize the two parties fight no matter how much you shriek like an idiot to a poster in this forum.
          Instead, you divide the forum, perfect hypocrite that you are.

          • Nate

            By your immature reaction it’s very clear to see who’s the adult in this situation. Besides, with a silly name like SiliconDoc, it’s more than likely you’re not a carbon based life form. Isn’t silicon used in artificial intelligence? Hence, the name calling.

      • Dogma-Free

        I’d say the tea-baggers’ influence was on display in Tucson, when some gun-toting f*ck-tard decided to do Sarah Palin and Jesse Kelly’s evil bidding for them, and opened fire at a political gathering.

        I mean, really…what kind of idiots would promote such a thing?!

        So, in light of this, and since Arizona is determined to ruin things for the rest of the country, let’s talk about some stiffer gun control measures, shall we? I mean, it’s obvious you right-wing loons can’t be trusted to govern yourselves accordingly, so it looks like the government *NEEDS* to step in and do it for you…and I’m sure we would all agree now.

        I’m sorry that you need to be treated like children, but you’ve shown that you are incapable of acting like responsible adults…and if you don’t like this, well…blame Arizona republicans.

        • American Citizen

          You’re not dealing with reality here. That guy had Gabrielle in his sights for quite a while. He was into Hitler’s writings and other like-minded authors. He is a mental case. I’m not sure he even read any of Sarah’s writings or the Tea Party’s either. We have yet to learn his true motives. The Dems and liberal media immediately attributed his motives to the right. They have since retracted, but he damage has been done as your post proves.

          • HFlashman

            I know…packin’ guns to rallies, the yelling and screaming, the constant barrage of comments advocating or insinuating violence, the symbols such a cross hairs etc…none of that created any atmosphere of violence. Yep…uh huh…sure … Jeesh ….

          • Dogma-Free

            Not dealing with reality…??

            No, you’re wrong. This *IS* the reality these days. This is what all the gun talk, and all the right-wing propaganda has brought us to.

            As for the latest right-wing mass murderer, he was said to have Sarah Palin listed as his #1 hero. Sarah Palin had a graphic on her website (and facebook page, and twitter page, and gawd knows where else) that used the cross-hairs of a gun scope, to encourage her obviously nutty followers to take out the Democrats who voted for the health care bill.

            I don’t know if it’s true or not, that the mass murderer idolized Sarah ‘Killing Wolves From A Chopper Is Fun’ Palin…and the truth is, you also don’t know definitively whether it’s true or not either.

            Just as none of us know, nor sadly ever will know, the truth about so many things that we rely on our government – and/or the media they own (FAUX “news”, and the like) – to honestly inform us about.

            Looking back, I now see that Obama was out to hurt America. It was when he said they wouldn’t be looking back, and basically excused former POTUS, George Dubya Bush, and his criminal accomplices (the Bush administration – Cheney, Rove, Rice, etc.), from their war crimes. In a way (and maybe in a way more real than any of us realize), it makes Obama an accomplice to the Bush administration…or maybe to the people they all work for.

            Anyways, this is now why it’s so stupid for the people of America to fight each other (and obviously unspeakably stupid to kill each other), when the real fight will soon be against allowing the middle class to disappear (which again, is very real)…leaving only the RICH, and the poor…though for what purpose, I’m not yet sure. All I know is that, whatever the purpose is, it won’t serve the poor.

          • libertytrain

            the left has to spin it away from themselves because once again, they did it.

          • JeffH

            Thank you libertytrain, simple and to the point.

        • Earl

          Hate ta tell U this ‘ol buddy, but some of the reading I’ve done reveals that this guy actually was a whacked out far LEFTY, not a right winger like you liberals rant about ceaselessly. Spare me the reactionary label throwing–I’m not a “Teabagger” as you are wont to say. Do your homework and then make your judgement in a clear light………..

          • HFlashman

            Let’s see..what scant reports are about the crazed shooter. Mentally unstable, rejected by the Army, posted vids on YouTube about mindcontrol, government abuses, and brought a semi automatic to classes before getting kicked out of the CC he attended.

            Toss in the campaigns where Sarah “lock and load’ Palin used cross hairs, TPers around the country shouting ’2nd Amendment’ whenever they could for whatever reason (I think because they’re just as nuts as the shooter IMO), Gibbons opponent holding fund raisers which he used as target practice various bills before Congress, Arizona’s multitudes of gun nuts, the shrieks about violence against Congress and so forth and so forth…

            Nope…I don’t see any connection between the rabid rantings of the Right and how it would have influenced this guy at all.

          • Dogma-Free

            I have absolutely no doubt that some of the sites YOU go to would try to spin this off as telling you he was of the left, but the libs as we all know, are generally peace-loving pushovers…not gun-toting whackos.

            In fact, I’m sure this very site here, will likely try to spin this whole thing to absolve themselves, and any of their far-right nutjob affiliates, of any blame in this…but again, I’m sure we know the reality of the situation, and it’s obviously very much the result of right-wing political propaganda.

            People of the political ‘right’ – you’re ruining this country, and you have only yourselves to blame.

            People of the political ‘left’ – you’re allowing the people of the political ‘right’ to ruin this country, and so in that, you also need to shoulder some of the blame.

            People in the middle (the free thinkers) – carry on doing what you’re doing. Your time to speak up is now.

          • Michael J.

            Dogma-free,
            You said, “the libs as we all know, are generally peace-loving pushovers…not gun-toting whackos”.
            —————————————————————-
            The history of left wing/communist violence in the United States.

            Mass. Sen. Charles Sumner beaten by S. Carolina Rep. Preston Brooks over perceived insults made in speech by Brooks (1856).
            John Wilkes Booth (anti-Republican Democrat) assassination of Abraham Lincoln.
            Southern night riders and the KKK during Reconstruction and into the mid-1900s. (Democrats)
            Chicago Haymarket riot (1886)
            McKinley’s assassination by Leon Frank Czolgosz (Leftwing anarchist)
            Sedition Act of 1918 by Woodrow Wilson (Progressive Democrat)
            FDR’s internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII (Democrat progressive)
            FALN attack against Pres. Harry Truman (communist)
            Sheriff Bull Connors, Gov. George Wallace (Democrats)
            John Kennedy’s assassin Lee Harvey Oswald (communist)
            1968 Democrat Convention
            Robert Kennedy’s assassin Sirhan Sirhan (leftwing Palestinian supporter)
            Sarah Jane Moore’s attempted assassination of Pres. Gerald Ford
            Berkeley People’s Park riot in 1969 (campus socialists, communists and anarchists)
            Students for a Democratic Society aka SDS (communist)
            Bombing (1970) of Math Center at University of Wisconsin-Madison (anti-war communists)
            Symbionese Liberation Army (communists)
            American Indian Movement (AIM) killing of FBI agents at Wounded Knee (socialist American Indian activists)
            The Weathermen, incl. Dohrn and Ayers (communist)
            Puerto Rican terrorist group FALN bombings (communist)
            Black Panthers (Left-wing socialist/communist)
            James Jones of Jonestown fame (apostolic socialism)
            Earth Liberation Front (ELF)
            Attack on Branch Davidians (Janet Reno, Clinton Administration)
            Ted Kaczynski – Unabomber (leftwing anarchist and environmental fanatic, Gore acolyte)
            Left-wing violence, destruction and physical assaults at 1999 G-20 meeting in Seattle.
            Attack on Washington, D.C. Holocaust Memorial by James Wenneker von Brunn (anti-U.S. socialist sympathizer)
            Left-wing violence, destruction, physical assaults and weapons convictions at 2008 Republican Convention in Minneapolis.
            Amy Bishop, University of Alabama professor who shot dead three of her colleagues and wounded three others. (Finatical Obama supporter)
            Joe Stack, Austin IRS bomber (anti-Republican, anti-capitalist, anti-wealthy people)
            Physical attacks on conservative speakers at university campuses
            Multiple physical attacks against Tea Party rallies by SEIU and others (2009).
            Shooting of pro-life demonstrator James Pouillon in Owosso, MI (2009)
            Physical assault by S. Carolina Rep. Bob Etheridge against student, caught on video.
            Shooting of Arizona Rep. Gabriella Giffords, Judge Roll and others at neighborhood rally (anti-U.S. left-wing sympathizer)

          • Mike In MI

            Michael J -
            WOW, and I mean WOW! If you’ve got to be divisive, polarizing and contentious against the self-righteousness, perfidy and illogic of the bereft-left might as well do it with serial bomb runs. That’s a beautiful piece of work, Michael. I will continue to expect great posts from you and look for your work.
            God bless, continue.

      • EddieW

        For the most part, even the libs in Congress want the Constitution annuled! It prevents us from being forced into slavery!! Also another example of Lib thinking…wish it kept the bold and colors I used!
        It’s truly amazing!!! The guy that shot the congress woman in AZ is a leftist! Then the height of insanity…they…the left…
        blame Sarah Palin & the Tea Party???? Hellloooo???

        • HFlashman

          EddieW…just for fun…care to share the source(s) of where you are being “informed’ the shooter was a “leftist”?

          Jeesh ….

          • jim

            Do you LISTEN, can your READ???!! The SICKO who shot SURE isn’t from the Right! DUH!!!

          • HFlashman

            OK Jim..maybe you can cite some of your sources saying he was from the left. ….

            Better yet, perhaps you’ll be able to explain how the violent statements, commercials, wacked out hyperbole emanating from the Right did not contribute to a sick mind tending towards violence to go off like he did.

            I’m certain you’ll be able to explain it…right?

    • Michael J.

      Kinetic1,
      The 3/5ths clause and prohibition are left in the Constitution as a reminder and should have been included in the recent reading. The 3/5ths clause was intended to condition the minds of Americans with the idea that Africans were humans who should be afforded rights and was hoped would lead to abolition. Prohibition it has been said, sought not to free men from the ravages of alchol, but instead to close saloons which were seen as the political town hall meeting places of the day.

      Back to the present, it seems that most descent towards reading The Constitution comes from Progressives who see it as a road block that prevents the fulfillment of their self-centered agenda.

      • Vigilant

        Michael J.,

        It’s a joy to see someone understand the impact of the 3/5 compromise. It has been used by the left and various black power groups to denigrate the efforts of the Founders by implying that black people were only 3/5 of a person.

        Frederick Douglass also believed this until he studied the Constitution and realized that it was indeed an abolitionist clause that forced the South’s Founders to recognize the “personhood” of the slaves.

        A perfect Constitutional clause it was not, but without it the Union would have had no chance of being formed.

        • Kinetic1

          Vigilant,
          Is the cup half full or half empty? Did the North force the south to recognize “all other people” to be worth at least 3/5 of a person, or did the South force the North to accept that “all other People” are worth less than a whole? The point is, this was not done to “condition” the south to accept Blacks, but to prevent the South from having too many pro-slavery members of Congress.

          I went back and listened to David Barton on Beck’s show (a source named by many who argue the “conditioning” reasoning) and I don’t see where anyone came away with that notion. Even Barton sees this as the North compromising to prevent the South from gaining too much power.

      • Bruce D.

        The 3/5s in the Constitution was to determine wealth for taxation. It was felt that a slave would only do 3/5s the work of a free man because there was no incentive for a slave to work as hard as a free man. You can use the same logic with Obama’s redistribution plans. Why work hard if you have to give your money to someone who does not. The left are promoting a sort of Federal plantation.

      • Kinetic1

        Michael J,
        Do you really believe that this was a “conditioning” plan? Constitutional scholars have noted for decades that the North wanted only those with voting rights counted, and the South wanted all people, regardless of status counted. Had the South been allowed there way, their representation in the house would have been grossly disproportionate to the number of voters in each state. The North could not stand by and let the South dominate national politics, but neither could they deny “all other people” any human status, so they compromised. Your interpretation (and Glen Beck’s I might add) would only be plausible if it had been the South that did not want “all other persons” counted. To suggest that the Southern states, who had just fought the bloodiest battle in our history to retain their right to own slaves, wanted to shift peoples opinion of blacks to recognize their status as humans is ridiculous to say the least.

    • James

      Out the outset, it was stated that the parts of the Constitution that had been altered or removed by amendments would not be read. I think the main reason most congressmen didn’t want it read was because they didn’t want to be reminded that the only powers delegated to them were those listed in Article I, Section 8.

      • Mike In MI

        James -
        The other day there was a funny call into, I think it was, Hannity. Some woman was on complaining that they shouldn’t have wasted so much time reaing the Constitution in front of the body which it is supposed to restrain. It took too long to do and we’ve got so much work that needs to be done.
        Funny, I thought, the Obamacraps spent months and months and months last year blugeoning, bribing and blackmailing their own faithful followers into cobbling together the worst example of legislative sleight-of-hand ever produced………and hat broad was bitching that reading the Constitution was a waste of time.

        A true, dyed-in-the-brain, lofty-lefty with her head in the clouds – of mari-J.

      • HFlashman

        Ahhh…so they read an “abridged” version. Apparently the full document wasn’t to their liking. Muchlike the recent “abridged version’ of Huck Finn where the publisher substituted ‘slave’ for the “n’ word. He “improved it”. Uh huh ….

        Even then, they didn’t realize pages stuck together etc. Great source of Constitutional scholars them thar GOP ….

    • Bruce D.

      I feel the reading of the Constitution was an excellent idea. The more exposure Kinetic1 and the left have to the Constitution the better off we will all be. Their desire to expand government past the boundaries of the Constitution defies logic and common sense.

      • Kinetic1

        There is nothing wrong with exposure to the Constitution. I refer back to it almost daily when responding to posts on this site. What was done in Congress, though will do little to enlighten anyone. As I noted, even the Republican leadership left almost as soon as they had fulfilled their obligation to read a few words. It was so disjointed that the meaning was lost. How well do you think our children would learn if each child in class were required to walk to the front, read one sentence from a story, then return to their seat while the next child is called by name, walks up to the front, etc. Had they brought one skilled reader in to lead Congress in the reading of the Constitution, perhaps it would have made some sense. Better still, had they allowed for some discussion with noted Constitutional scholars to clarify sections, it would have been a learning experience. As it was, I stand by my opinion that it was little more than political posturing by the new Republican leadership.

        • Bruce D.

          You make valid points. Perhaps they should take one paragraph for each session read and explained by a Constitutional scholar. Never the less it is symbolic and a good idea.

    • HFlashman

      What’s even more ironic is that there were TWO GOP members who attended a fund raiser when the oath was given, one a freshman TPer, the other chair of the committee who approved sending to the floor the health care issue.

      They claimed they thought standing in front of the TV repeating the path was sufficient.

      Then…get this…the GOP realized the committee was not constitutionally comprised of the required make up (chairman was at the fundraiser0 so the committee vote was unconstitutional ! The GOP leadership stated it was a “minor techicality’ and the bill went forward ! Yep…that’s correct folks..the GOP leadership decided that abiding by the Constitution was a “minor techicality’ …

      Think about that and the chest puffing about the reading of the Constitution etc etc …

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    if nadler doesnt like it he can move to a commie country.

    • Mike In MI

      Why, sean ,…? -
      I mean, that sort of diplomatic blunder could start wars. They do have some personal respect, you know. Nadler doesn’t. He always reminds me of drawings of Humpty-Dumpty, Jabba the Hutt or…I don’t know. ……Hm-m-m, what would he look like if he was hung upside-down by his ankles (assuming you could find them)?

  • Doyal

    I’m still trying to figure out what purpose was served.

    • Michael J.

      Doyal,
      The reading aloud of The Constitution by each member of The House of Representatives re-affirms their sworn oathe to uphold it’s contents and the creation of subsequent legislation faithfull to it’s meaning.

    • James

      Doyle, the purpose was to remind Congress that their powers were limited to those listed in Article I, Section 8. From the federal government’s creation, it was standard practice for Congress to list the Clause in Section 8, which authorized proposed legislation. However, for the past few years, no authority was mentioned on Bills.

    • Mike In MI

      Doyal, Doyal…purpose served…? -
      Why…give the libs some exposure to something they only ever heard about before…what else?

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Doyal… I seen it as a reminder to those who serve. It seems that many no longer believe it to be a valid document, and mostly it is the left that would like to see it disposed of. I think every new session should start with this reading. Congress needs to listen and listen good.

    • Bruce D.

      The purpose Doyal is that if you have never read the Constitution it is impossible to uphold the oath to follow it and defend it. Most here feel the left has little or no understanding of the Constitution or the fact it is a document resticting the Federal Government from expanding its powers.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    I think it should be read every day for a year…keep them busy reading instead of voting on unconstitutional bills. :)

    Better yet, lets stop all bills and do a Constitutional REVIEW of every Bills derived authority from the Constitution! WORD FOR WORD REVIEW, interpretation not desired.

    • BobS

      I second that!! Any objections?

      • Dagney

        None here!

        • Mike In MI

          Let’s get on with that race, kids. Ready, Set, GOOOOOOOOO

    • HFlashman

      BL…seems you have to do a refresher course in how a Bill is passed into law.

      Constitutional review as well as conflicts or amending existing laws is already erformed and reported at the Committee level and included in the committee reports. Such is already part of the process.

      See…the GOP has your number. They know they can grandstand and read a portion of the Consitution into the Congressional record making a Big Show of the deal. When, in fact, as pages “stick together” and a full section of the documet is skipped over, they don’t even realize it.

      So which part should the members of Congress be’affirmed’ with? The read into the Congressional Record portion? Including the stumbling stutterings?

      Meanwhile, the Big party of the year to date was the fund raiser held by the lobbyists for Industry and foreign interests in honor of, and for the benefit of the incoming Freshman class. Which almost every TPwer recently elected attended. As one stated for his reason for showing up “one needs money to get re-elected”.

      So much for changing Washington eh?

      It’s not that DC cannot be changed. It’s not that campaign finance cannot be reined in. But when you support the SCOTUS ruling that opened the floodgates to hidden monies…then fall for the rhetoric and lies during the campaigns as the money flooded the TV … you just gave the existing system a shot in the arm.

      You were lied to during the entire campaign season and before, you fell for those lies, you screamed in support of the agenda behind those lies. And ow you’re angry because those lies turned out to be lies….and you realize are angry blaming all but yourself as you were stupid enough to be a victim of the scam.

      • http://naver samurai

        When they take office they are sworn in with their left hand on top of the Bible. Yes, this is still a Christian nation. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • HFlashman

          Actually Samurai…the procedure for taking the oath is up to the oathtaker. All they are required to do is take the oath. If they want to swear on a Bble, A Koran, or a Superman comic book…that’s the choice of the one taking the oath.

          • kate8

            Does anyone know for sure what book Obama took his oath on? And which time?

          • Bruce D.

            KateH there was no Bible when Obama took his oath of office. It was claimed that they forgot to bring it. I think he had to take the oath twice because there was a problem the first time. The second time there was no Bible.

          • Bruce D.

            I do not think this will surprise many. Obama flubbed the oath of office the first time and then forgot the Bible when taking the oath the second time correctly.
            “After constitutional law experts questioned the validity of his swearing-in because of a fluffed line in the oath of office, Mr Obama moved quickly to quash speculation that his presidency was in any way illegitimate.

            John Roberts, the Chief Justice charged who helped bungle the oath on Tuesday, was summoned to the White House and, in front of a small pool of reporters, Mr Obama carefully and accurately repeated the 35-word oath prescribed by Article 2 of the Constitution.

            The problem was, no-one thought to bring a Bible and Mr Obama decided to go ahead without one.

            Legally, that was fine – the Constitution makes no mention of the Bible”

          • JeffH

            Bruce D., On Tuesday, Mr Obama was sworn in with his left hand on the Bible used by his great political hero, Abraham Lincoln, on his first inauguration in 1861. That book was returned to the Library of Congress straight afterwards.

            It is not clear whether Mr Roberts, the Supreme Court Chief Justice, had been expected to bring a Bible with him but it might come as a shock to some of Mr Obama’s more devout supporters – he and his family are regular churchgoers – that no Bible was available last night and the ceremony went ahead without one.

            The second oath was taken in the White House Map Room, witnessed not by a crowd of two million but four members of the White House press corps.

          • Karolyn

            Obama did not flub the oath the first time, the Justice did.

          • Bruce D.

            JeffH Obama went to church recently for the first time since he has become president. Huckabee was making an issue out of it so he took time out from his golf game to do so. I have to wonder how much of his time spent in Rev. Wright’s church was political in nature.

        • Kinetic1

          samurai,
          The official oath is given/taken as a group. No one is holding any book, just raising their right hand. The confusion begins when each member takes the oath again as a photo op, at which point the book is called into use. As previously noted, there are no requirements regarding what book is used, let alone the necessity to hold a second ceremony. Remember Article VI, paragraph 3, “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Flash.. I knew Obama was lying and I didn’t vote for him!

      • Allan Halbert

        “You were lied to during the entire campaign season and before, you fell for those lies, you screamed in support of the agenda behind those lies. And ow you’re angry because those lies turned out to be lies….and you realize are angry blaming all but yourself as you were stupid enough to be a victim of the scam.”

        These words are incredibly condescending. They also seem to represent what liberals have been calling hate speech in the last few days. The small town I lived in had a “babbler” who constantly walked up and down main street repeating short paragraphs to himself. The paragraph reminds me of him. The lynchpin of liberalism seems to be whether others can think for themselves or not. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but they can. Conservatives have been putting up with Progressive ranting for decades, until finally it reached a volume that awakened them. But I understand where the above paragraph comes from: Progressives have awakened the conservative mainstream. They now find themselves in a much more competitive situation and feel they have no choice but to act more desparate and vindictive. Ironically, Progressives and Conservatives have some things in common (such as contempt for corrupt politicians of any party), but as this website reminds us daily, Progressives haven’t figured this out yet.

    • James

      Great idea! I would mention, however, that the Supreme Court has adopted the policy that federal laws that haven’t been challenged as being unconstitutional, are assumed to be constitutional after a certain number of years have elapsed. They reasoned that to undue the consequences of a bad law would be too horrendous.

      • HFlashman

        Really? The SCOTUS has that as a policy? Care to send the cite which has that as SCOTUS policy?

        Reason I ask for that source is that it’s not true.

        Read the case Marbury V Madison. Other subsequent cases bring about that a law is presumed to be Constitutional until challenged. When challenged as far as Consitutionality, the Court then decides.

  • Doc Sarvis

    What a total waste of time and money. Many representatives left the chamber while the constitution was being read. It served no other purpose than the Republican majority avoiding getting down to the nation’s business.

    Perhaps a better approach would be for the Representatives to take a test on the basics of the constitution (no cheating like having their staff look up answers) and have their scores publically displayed. It would have taken far less time and would be far more enlightening.

    • Dagney

      The “nation’s business” has been, for the past 90 or so years, the exercise in subverting, ignoring, and placing laws in effect that nullify the constitution. So, no, it was in no way a waste of time and money. It was a good beginning to start pounding in these people’s heads that we will RETURN to constitutional law! And, it was suggested above, that no other “laws” should be passed by these criminals until they start reviewing, word for word, every law already imposed on us until they have been repealed if they are found to be outside of constitutional law. THAT is the only “business” of this congress. Or, should be. Gridlock? HELL YES!

      • Doc Sarvis

        Then why were the Representatives allowed to leave the chamber durring the reading?

        • Dagney

          Please inform us all what that has to do with what has been said before here?

          • Doc Sarvis

            You said; “The “nation’s business” has been, for the past 90 or so years, the exercise in subverting, ignoring, and placing laws in effect that nullify the constitution. So, no, it was in no way a waste of time and money. It was a good beginning to start pounding in these people’s heads that we will RETURN to constitutional law!”

            How can the constitution be pounded in our Representatives heads if they walk out of the chamber to do who knows what?

        • Kinetic1

          Doc,
          I couldn’t agree with you more.

          • Dagney

            Oh, please, just because some of them walked out, doesn’t mean the actual reading of the documents wasn’t on their minds. You KNOW it was because of all the caterwauling they did over it. It had a purpose whether they were all there to hear it or not!

    • wayne

      Doc Sarvis, I totally agree that the reading of the Consttution was appropriate by members of the House of Representatives. It should be read, and understood by every child in the public school system. This document has successfully led this nation for over 200 years. Anyone who don’t believe in this document don’t deserve to live in this country. Our founding fathers had a great insight in human behavious and had to make sure it was well written. Now, if we can just get the courts to follow it. It seems like they only apply it when it benefits certain people.

      • Mick

        wayne says:
        January 10, 2011 at 7:57 am
        Doc Sarvis, I totally agree that the reading of the Consttution was appropriate by members of the House of Representatives. It should be read, and understood by every child in the public school system. This document has successfully led this nation for over 200 years. Anyone who don’t believe in this document don’t deserve to live in this country. Our founding fathers had a great insight in human behavious and had to make sure it was well written. Now, if we can just get the courts to follow it. It seems like they only apply it when it benefits certain people.
        *************************************
        But wayne, how can the democrats succeed with their sick agenda to destroy this Country if they follow the constitution ???

        • JC

          Putting our Constitution front and center should be the mandate of every sworn Representative. But until we abrogate all ties to the UN and the Federal Reserve all the readings in the world are merely an exercise in futility. The US needs to reassert itself as a sovereign Republic.

        • wayne

          They can’t. Thet is why they do not want to follow it. We, the people will have to see they do, or kick them out of office so they will have to get a real job. Most of them most likely couldn’t make it in the private sector so that is why they stay and retire from government.

          • 45caliber

            The few that do get kicked out can easily find a job as a lobbyist. Most that do get jobs do exactly that. After all, they know the system and the ones who take bribes better than anyone.

    • SLIM4X4

      What good would that do? Those who support an alleged pres who doesn’t
      know how many states there are, don,t care.

    • Vigilant

      Doc, we don’t often agree, but your idea of a Constitutional literacy test is right on. I would add that it should be a “pop quiz” to see how much knowledge of the document our Reps/Senators have without crammi9ng for it.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Doc… I don’t feel it was a waste of time and money, but I like your test idea, too. Pork barrel spending is a waste of time and money.:)

      • HFlashman

        So Robin…you are on record for doing away with earmark spending eh?

        OK…which of the earmaks for Indiana should be cut and which do you think should be retained?

        If you think all should be cut…maybe you should read up on the earmarks your Congressman/woman requested last year. Then come back and state all should be cut.

        If your Congeressman is Burton…and you voted for his re-election…best wipe the egg of your face before replying…

        • Tom Kaighin

          All of them should be cut. Along with every state representative’s requested earmarks. The only problem with that is, that it is every representatives’ responsibility to get the most out of the Federal Government that they possibly can to promote their individual constituancies. It is why the tax system needs to be changed. Flat tax (fair tax, proportional tax, call it what you will). Too much money goes to the fed). More money needs to go to the state and the fed should be required to live within it’s means. The requirements of the fed are clearly defined…and the state should regulate the rest. I’m not a fan of state legislatures either, but us citizens can, at least, keep a closer eye on our own homefronts than we can on the bloated Fed beuracracy. Semper Fi (though I am a Navy Vet, Anchors Away just doesn’t have the same feel :P)

    • Mike In MI

      Doc S. –
      Performing a test on the Constitution would need to be equally administered. The NEA would demand to oversee the testing. The test would need to be cleared to make sure it was appropriate to each person’s grade level, intelligence ability and language background. It would have to be screened for any potential socio-culturally objectionable material and on that basis would be required to be declared, “Rejected on the grounds common sensical phrases and ideals are involved that are, undoubtedly, offensive and dangerous to the psyches of certain members of that body.” – although there are far fewer now – we hope.

      • 45caliber

        Mike in MI:

        The word “offensive” would kill such a test instantly. I suspect every member would find something “offensive” in the Constitution, since it infringes on their ability to do whatever they want while in power.

    • 45caliber

      Doc:

      Why just test the Republicans on what it said?? Why not ALL of them? Then we could compare their answers and see who is the idiot.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Who suggested just applying the test to Republicans? Not me.

        • 45caliber

          Sorry, misread “Representatives” to be “Republicans”. My fault.

    • Bruce D.

      Most on the left believe as you do Doc Sarvis that reading the Constitution is a complete waste of time. That is why this country is in a crisis and will be until people start to grasp the meaning of it.

      • Doc Sarvis

        I didn’t say that I believe that reading the constitution is a waste of time. In fact I think it is a worthy way to spend some time. I think it is a waste of time and money to take time to read it to the House of Representatives when the House of Representatives, as a whole, are not even in attendance to hear it.

        • Doc Sarvis

          Bruce D
          Nice attempt to mis-frame my comments.
          This stunt by the new majority in the House is just that, a stunt. It avoids doing the hard work of governing and wastes our money.

          • Tom Kaighin

            Of course, you would think it is only a stunt. It mirrors the stunted understanding you have of any initiative that promotes education. I don’t mean that it is educating our Elected Representatives, but it does deny them the defence of ignorance, which seems to be the guiding principle of the entire elected body.

        • Bruce D.

          What Congress normally does is a waste of time and money. Reading the Constitution is not. If they want to flee like cockroaches every time they see or hear the Constitution being read then let the cockroaches flee.

  • Pathfinder

    Actually, reading of the constitution is not so simple a matter as one might think. To cite the example mentioned (the 3/5th compromise) that portion was later changed by section 2 of the XIV amendment. So, do we read the original wording or do we read the constitution as amended ? One reason that having a printed copy is so useful is that the original is still present with annotation of those sections which no longer apply. Perhaps we can start issueing pocket sized copies of the constitution to all members of BOTH the house and the senate. Then, when in doubt of what it says; they can look it up right there on the spot.

    • wayne

      Good thinking, Pathfinder.

    • Vigilant

      How about an oversized display, posted on the chamber walls and in plain sight of each Rep.?

      • Bruce D.

        How about putting it on Obama’s teleprompter.

    • 45caliber

      It is still a lot simpler than any state constitution I ever saw. States have a lot more control than the Feds are supposed to have. So they require more amendments.

      For instance, all states in the South have a “Right-to-Work” clause. It states that everyone has the right to work without being forced to join any union or pay anyone for the priviledge. That isn’t in the Fed. Constitution and shouldn’t be there.

      • Bruce D.

        All right not mentioned in The Bill of Rights are reserved to the Sates and the people.

  • isk of stupid sh t

    well this my money well spent? not that they could understand what they are reading do to the fact they have re-written that doc in thier own mind so many times that they have forgotten the reason it was written, who knows maybe they will learn something how that would be a nice change!

  • Jack

    Reading of the constitution was all well and good, but according to Judge Napolitano on Freedom Watch, it was being read to an empty chamber. Did you notice that the camera never panned the chamber but was focused the entire time on those doing the reading. I wonder if we are putting too much faith in the new congress. What is the benefit of reading it, if nobody was listening?

    • RHSchumann

      Because this was noithing but an exercise in grand xtanding. Means nothing else to those who thought it up. And of course you noticed that they omitted everything that doesn’t fit their agenda. And these are the same people who have problems with the 14th Amendment. Isn’t that also sacrosanct?

    • kate8

      Jack – Business as usual for Congress. The chamber is empty most of the time, except for those who are there to speak.

      The “debates” on issues is a joke. There is no one there to hear. They’re all out selling themselves to special interests (raising funds) and have already been instructed on how to vote, so hearing debates would be a waste of time for them.

      Same with the reading of the Constitution. Most of them, especially on the Left, have no intention of being hampered by this document.

    • Bruce D.

      Let the cockroaches scurry back into their dark holes when the Constitution is being read. It is like putting holly water in front of a vampire.

  • isk of stupid sh t

    money well spent? not that they could understand what they are reading do to the fact they have re-written that doc in thier own mind so many times that they have forgotten the reason it was written, who knows maybe they will learn something how that would be a nice change!

  • patrick

    I wonder if the liberal democrats from Minnesota will refuse to read and live by our Constitution? I’m referring to Amy Klobuchar, Al Franken and Keith Ellison… he is the dude that would not swear-in using the bible he refussed and used a Koran. Michele Backmann did a good job recently exposing how bad Minnesota is and how the liberal democrats control everything in the stae of Minnesota. They won’t spend our tax money to fix bridges so they don’t collapse or fix the Metrodome so the rood doesn’t collapse, yet they spend $5 million to put a concrete bus stop for 10 peple in the middle of a freeway! Yes folks, this is how the liberal democrats run the State of Minnesota. They all need to be voted out of office!!!

    • eddie47d

      Keith Ellison is a Muslim so why wouldn’t he take his Oath on a Koran. That bridge in Minnesota collapsed under a Republican administration who stalled repairs on that very bridge. Still trying to re-write history and dilute the facts Patrick?

    • eddie47d

      Keith Ellison is a Muslim so why wouldn’t he take an Oath on a Koran.That bridge that collapsed was under a Republican administration and that Governor refused to authorize said repairs. I know you are trying to be a sly dog Patrick, with half truths and hopping that no one will catch you. Now on the reading of the Constitution I see no harm done but parts should not have been left out.

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        As an engineer, I think I should point out one thing on that collapsed bridge. Politics had nothing to do with it.

        It collapsed because the construction crews put far too much weight on the bridge despite what it was rated for. Then, when the added cars passing and the vibration thereof, it collapsed – just as anything will when it has more than twice what it is rated for on it.

        • JLC

          45caliber — As one engineer to another, your explanation brought to mind an old story —— probably older than either one of us. (I’m in my 80′s) An enginer and a politician were arguing the question as to which of their profesions was the older. The engineer maintained that engineering was the older, since God created an orderly universe out of chaos. To which the politician responded, “Aah! But who created the chaos?”

          • UnpopedKernals

            Chaos was created out of an ordered infinity that failed to remain in an ordered state. A failed oscillating system of great vastness that was somehow both infinite and quantatized is the source. All that occurs, events, must pay some homeage to that chaotic core. Entropy is the prime suspect for here and now manifestation of the link back across nearly uncountable numbers of events to the initial event. The overtones of good and evil cannot be missed. If politicians are the source of chaos, then, the peoples’ distaste for them is rooted in a distaste for evil and death.

          • Mike In MI

            Uh-h-h’
            Does anybody know where “Unpoped” lives?
            Somebody needs to check his back yard for Occult Shrines, Ammo, Stolen Guns, Drugs and Socialism’s best sellers (like Mein Kampf, Marxist Manifestoes, Mao’s Little Red Book, Origin of Species, etc.).
            While your at it see if you can find out if he loks like HFlash, please.

  • tim

    As far as I’m concerned, everyone of them who didn’t show or got up and walked should all be thrown out of thier position. I’m tired of politicians who don’t care or think they have the right to do anything they want!!!!The founding fathers put everyone of these clowns to shame and they should have respect and sit down and listen.

  • patrick

    I wish they would have forced Obammy boy to read it and after he once again on purpose, forgot to mention ” OUR CREATOR “, that they would have forced him to read it as it was written and to make him correct the words he purposly left out!

    • wayne

      I think Obama is a lost cause. You can’t change spots on a leopard. He is a Muslim with out the Christian Values that we grew up with. Maybe he should go to a Muslim Contry where he can run for a president there. At least he would b representing his own kind.

      • Norm

        wayne

        Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep thoughts can be winnowed from deep nonsense. [Carl Sagan]

        • wayne

          Norm & hundabuxt, a person who grows up in a Christian Home has a lot less chance of going to prison than those who didn’t. I have lived a long life, and I have some experience in the field I am speaking about. I feel sorry for the people who did not experience growing up knowing right from wrong, or not having a conscios which would permit a person from doing a bad deed. There are too many bad things happening within our society today. Who do you think is doing all the killings, stealing, rapings, and all the other bad things. I can guarantee you if you made a study of this, you would find that the biggest part of the criminal element did not grow up in a Chistian Home, or was not taught any values while growing up. Values are taught a home, and in church. You go to school to learn other things that will permit you to be self reliant throughout life. Yes! I know you will disagree with this, but you will be the exception.

          • Karolyn

            As I am sure you are aware, a large percentage of the prison population is black. Most black people are Christian and avid churchgoers, to boot. How do you explain this?

          • Angel Wannabe

            Karolyn, Each of us are born with a good side and a bad side, it’s OUR choice which side we use and for what?!

          • Tom Kaighin

            Most people in prison are not christian. By definition, they are anarchists. They believe that their actions are perfectly justified because they benefit from them. The rest of society feels differently, therefore they are incarcerated or executed.

            Any individual that claims that God told them to break the laws of a Judeo-Christian Society, is, by definition, a liar. Anyone of any other faith that violates the same laws where they exist is deserving of the punishment that they recieve. All will ultimately face judgement, regardless of faith.

            I know of no faith that doesn’t put ultimate judgement to it’s supreme being.

    • 45caliber

      patrick:

      I think the real problem is in the quote at the end of the article about the Constitution being “religious”. That’s why Oblama couldn’t quote it correctly.

  • Norm

    The same right-wingers who happily accepted George W. Bush’s shift toward a police state – his claims of limitless executive power, warrantless wiretaps, repudiation of habeas corpus, redefining cruel and unusual punishment, suppression of dissent, creation of massive databases on citizens, arbitrary no-fly lists, and endless overseas wars – have now reinvented themselves as brave protectors of American liberty.
    Indeed, the Tea Party crowd so loves the Constitution that the new Republican House majority took the unprecedented step of reading the document aloud at the start of the new congressional session, excluding the part about enslaved African-Americans being counted as three-fifths of a white person for purposes of congressional representation.
    One also has to wonder if these “constitutionalists” mumbled over the preamble’s assertion that a key purpose of the Constitution is to “promote the general Welfare.” regulate commerce among the states, and “establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization”

    Curiously, too, while supposedly revering the Constitution and its original intent, the Tea Partiers and their Republican allies simultaneously are proposing a radical revision of the founding document, an amendment that would allow a super-majority of states to overturn laws passed by Congress and signed into law by the president.

    • hundabuxt

      First of all Norm, Bush was a disaster and an idiot and he set the stage for the left to gain control due to the frustration with the independent voter many of whom now regret their decision to vote for Obama, at least the one’s I know. The antics of Obama, the in your face Democratic majority and scary people like Pelosi has given rise to the first viable third party movement, The Tea Party. We’re here for good now and as a rule don’t like the democrats or the republicans, at least the old guard type. Something has to change in this country because our so called “representatives” have ceeded power to the many Abramoffs lurking in the halls of the so called “peoples house” and the supreme court might have put the final in the coffin giving unlimited donation rights to mega corporations. Everything is for sale in America including politicians who rationalize their greed in the name of campaign contributions.
      Secondly, I’ve had a gut full of the references to “slavery” which is simply an unforgiving means to squeeze money out of the taxpayer and perputation of hatred, which their purveyors like the so called Reverend Jackson and Obamas former preacher and the like make lots of money from promoting. How far back in history do we have to go before we decide what happend was in the context of the times and excepted then? The Bible references slavery and does not necessarly condone it but neither does it forbid it, only unfair treatment of those who are slaves. Those who are unforgiving of the accepted means of low cost labor at the time rationalize welfare in any form to include the growing demand for “reperations” i.e., a check for every decendent of slaves in the amount of $85,000 or so. Should that actually happen you better be ready for some serious action if you get my drift. During our countries’ fight for independence with the Brits, our enemies were ruthless and crulity was common, yet we’re friends with the Brits today, even consider them our closest allies. Get it? We in the Tea Party are tired of political correctness, affirmative action, excessive litigation, liberal lawyers or any lawyers, extremes in the invironmental realm, which inhibits America from being as self sufficient as possible, tired of overly powerful municipal/state unions, which have succeeded in bankrupting cities and states and a predatory medical industry, which exploits Americans like we’re their captive cash cow and doesn’t even give us the best care in the world while charging like they do. We’re tired of the National Education Association, which has created an embarrasingly poor system for public education. We’re tired of polititions who conduct themselves like royality and remain in power far too long. I have much more but you get the idea.

      • Norm

        hundabuxt
        Are you also tired of Congress people who oppose you?

        • hundabuxt

          norm

          Oppose me? Of course not. Its the nature and beauty of our system to have the waxing and waning of political power. What I’m sick of is a legislature that does not represent the people. It represents special interests and if you don’t believe that then you’re living in a state of ignorant bliss.

          • Norm

            hundabuxt
            I hate to break your bubble but in this country big money ultimatly owns everything. That includes Dems, Repubs, and even teabaggers.
            Money talks. As it was in the beginning, it now is and will always be in world without end(bible?).

          • Teresa

            Norm says:
            January 10, 2011 at 12:46 pm
            hundabuxt
            I hate to break your bubble but in this country big money ultimatly owns everything. That includes Dems, Repubs, and even teabaggers.
            Money talks. As it was in the beginning, it now is and will always be in world without end(bible?).
            *********************************************************8

            Norm, mock what you choose and phrase it how you choose but your decission on how and what you choose is ultimately Yours and yours alone. The love for money is the root of all evil but the Choice of freedom is more. The CHOICE OF YOUR SOUL IS ETERNAL IF ONLY TRULY SEEK!

          • wayne

            Hundabuxt, we all want the system to be fair with everyone. We all have to be responsible, and set our goals what we want out of life. Some seems to know what they want out of life, and will work hard to attain that goal. Others don’t seem to interested one way, or the others. The wisest person who studies the hardest, not who works the hardest, will be those who will lead the rest of us.

        • hundabuxt

          To you all

          The point here is a fair playing field not one where the player with the most money wins. That makes slaves of all of
          us while they feed us the BS necessary to perpetuate the condition. If you don’t get this then you should start acting like the sheep you essentualy are

          • Allan Halbert

            If it not money, others will always have an advantage, whether in strength, or speed, or intelligence, or looks, or whatever. Foolish to think you can adjust human nature to fit utopian fantasies.

    • wayne

      Norm, Bush is now history. Are you stuck in a rut? Move on and join in on the current conversations. Hopefully Obama will be history in 2012.

      • Norm

        wayne
        Or not. It all depends on JOBS.

        • wayne

          Norm, I think we both know that Obama was in office for two years and the only thing he pushed for was that terrible National Health Insurance law and the Cap & Trade law, or Cap & Tax Law, what ever you want to call it. If the latter law ever goes into effect, the person living from payday to payday will starve to death. A well to do man cold afford it, but a lot of people will not be able to. I am for the little man, meaning not much money, as I was from a poor family myself while growing up in the country back in the forties, and fifties.

  • Norm
  • Lomax

    It is unfortunate that House members weren’t required to be there during the reading so that they might have learned something.

  • http://PersonalLibertyNews Pat

    Keep on reading that Constitution!

  • Carrie TPT

    Reading the Entire constitution should be part of the normal routine for All Sessions of Congress, as well as High School and College History & / or civics classes. It was my understanding that they were not reading the entire Constitution, they would be Censoring out “offensive” sections ? ? ?

    • 45caliber

      Most high schools no longer teach much of the Constitution. When I was in school, we had a course called “Civics”. It spent an entire semester on the Constitution. Now the school seldom even studies it a week because there has been a lot of needed changes since it was written. I think we’d be a lot better off if “Civics” was taught again since it tells you what your rights (and responsibilities) of being a citizen are. It isn’t left up to your local Congressman to tell you what they are – after he votes to get rid of them.

      • kate8

        45, Yes, we need to demand the schools teach civics to our kids again, which includes a study of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. But we mustn’t hold our collective breaths on that. What we need to do is turn of the TVs and teach it at home, along with meaningful discussion.

        In CA, our public schools are a lost cause, and have been for over 40 years. Maybe some other states still can salvage theirs, but there is no time to lose.

        • independant thinker

          You can influence what is taught in schools to some degree by voting in the school board elections. I know how effective this would be depends on where you live.

        • 45caliber

          I know what you mean about CA schools being a lost cause.

          When I was in the sixth grade, my parents took me from Arkansas to California to work the crops. Arkansas schools were out about May 7th. We were allowed to get out a week early (May 1) to go because both my brother and me were doing very well.

          When we got to California, the school system insisted we had to go back to school since their schools got out after the first of June. So back to school I went. And I was promptly the best student in the LARGE 6th grade (over 400 students). The reason? The books they were using were the same ones I had finished – in the FIFTH grade. (But they insisted that they were the best school system in the country while AR was almost last.)

        • Kinetic1

          kate8,
          My son is in the 8th grade. During this past year he studied the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. I have read much of the information provided by the school and have had several discussions with him regarding the content. Each 8th grade student is tested on both documents and is required to pass the test in order to graduate. They even hold a celebration for the students, recognizing the importance of these founding documents. I would bet that my kid now knows more about the constitution than the average voting adult. So what more do you want?

          • kate8

            Kinetic – Good for you. But this is not common. I don’t know where you live, but CA deserted the Constitution long ago. I suppose there could be exceptions in some small town, but the state has mandated socialistic curriculums.

            I just listened to a conference with ex-Justice Souter. He said that 2/3 of the nation don’t know what the Constitution says, and don’t understand our system of government, as these things are no longer taught. We have too many people who trust the government to monitor themselves and do what is right. Holy cow.

            There are a few people who are working to clean up our schools, but it is a difficult process when you are dealing with an already ignorant, ill-informed populace.

          • Kinetic1

            kate8,
            I don’t know where you live either, but I can tell you that, based on information from relatives living in the San Francisco Bay area, children there go through the same Constitutional testing.

        • HFlashman

          from reading the various comments madeon this board over the last few moths, it’s very apparent few writing here ever read the Constitution, The Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, or know much about the history of our government and the cases interpreting the Constitution.

          Heck..it’s more than very apparent…it’s plain fact ..

  • patrick

    Who ever this eddie47d idiot is must be yet another liberal democrat. I wonder if eddie knows that the liberal democrats that run the state of Minnesota don’t spend money to fix bridges so they will not collapse, but they spend all our tax money to bring in in Muslims, blacks, mexicans, etc. then they provide everything for free: medical, housing, food, transportation, education, etc. etc. It has nothing to do with Bush you idiot eddie, liberal democrats have been controlling Minnesota for decades. Hell the state even pays to bring these immigrants into Minnesota (welfare) and then they DO NOT require any of them to verify income or anything else, they just sit around and plan more terroristic attacks while they wait for their Gov’t checks… this is called entitlement which is another way Minnesota is going down the drain as they raise taxes.

    • wayne

      Patrick, Eddie47 and a few others on here are a lost cause.

    • kate8

      patrick – You are right. The government actually PAYS these people to move into certain areas that are too white or too conservative, thereby breaking down conservative stronholds. This has been happening all over the country.

      • UnpopedKernals

        One way is section 8 housing used as social engineering.

  • Lou

    Don’t read the Constitution !! Start practicing and living by its tenants as the Democrats have not done for many sessions.

  • patrick

    Just watch the news it is a normal happening that when there are terroristic activities, they are usually some tie to Minnesota, ie: 911, money laundering and financial support to alqeda etc. Living in Minnesota is just like if you live in Afganistan or Iraq. That’s why i’m otta here as soon as humanly possible. Check the FBI records and you will see how many connections and corruption have their begining right in river city, the State of Minnesota. I wonder if the politician Ellison has anything to do with thie expansion of Muslim in Minnesota?

  • 45caliber

    So … the Constitution is part of religion. No wonder the liberals want to ignore it! That would mean that the government was trying to merge with religion if they followed what it said!

    Of course, that is the first time I’ve ever heard that the Constitution – which set up our government to tell what they could do … and more importantly what they could NOT do – called religious. I guess it’s because the writers referred to “the Creator” in it. That must be it.

    • patrick H.T. paine

      “To conquer, first divide!”

      “creator”, now where would that be in the “Constitution”?

      patrick H.T. paine

    • kate8

      Looks to me like the Left sees liberty as a religious idea.

  • http://Yahoo Jack

    Those Representatives in the House that want a one world government have little use for the Constitution as it is in the way of the goal they have, so of course they think reading it at the start of the 112 legislative session is a waste of time.

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    I’m curious to know how many memebers of the Black Socialist Caucus took part in the reading or at least stayed to listen.

    • Bruce D.

      The Constitution is not something those on the left want to be confronted with. Eric Holder will probably use every stall tactic he can to stop Obamacare from reaching the Supreme Court. There is actually one newly elected Republican in the Black Caucus who is trying to make a difference from Florida. The curse of Socialism(and I mean curse) is effecting the black race more than any other group percentage wise. Lets hope he helps to wake them up a little for their own sakes.

    • Winnie

      gunner689, I wonder how many blacks took part in writing of the constitution. In fact, how many of the other races or religions were taking part in the writing of the constitution. None of the then present American Natives were invited to participate in writing it. I think the only participants were rich, white, men folks. Ever wonder if any other people were participating in making up of the constitution would have made any difference. Would it have been considered a Christian-origin document? I would’ve liked to have had more women involved.

      • 45caliber

        Women in those days were what is called “apolitical”. They had too many other things to worry about – at least until the Revolutionary War started. Besides, I’m not sure the Constitution could have been improved anyway. (I’d have hated to have been a woman then. Laundry by hand, iron everything, cooking from “scratch”, no birth control so lots of kids to keep track of, etc.)

        • American Citizen

          I’m with you, Caliber. Look at what those women in Congress now have done to us. I’m speaking here of the Liberals. They work off their feelings. God save us from feel-gooders.

          • UnpopedKernals

            Yep, feeling good is a tough goal. I just want to not feel a lot of pain after all the work I have done. And a couple of wrecks. Without Loratab.

          • Karolyn

            The World would be a much better place if women ruled! Less hate and violence for sure!! Matriarchal societies (There are a few) run much better than the patriarchal societies we’re stuck with. For one thing, women are respected in those societies, hence no objectification and no rape or domestic violence!

      • UnpopedKernals

        Winnie, the formation of the nation had sources beyond white males with assets. The influence of the Indians went beyond the fear and call to action that they created in their dealings with the new arrivals. Some of their social structures and loose government structures were incorporated into the early US government’s formative bodies and guiding documents. If you do not believe me do some research on the structure of American Indian governments and compare them to our own. Blacks as well, comtributed to the country’s foundation because you do not have to be one of the governing few to contribute to the whole. They were there and were contributing by their persence alone. If not, then, the slaves would have never been mentioned. Finally, as is the case today, many of the women were the rulers of their men in those times as well. So, they formed the thoughts and actions of the men even if they were not active participants.

        • Winnie

          I don’t believe for one minute that the women were behind the men. If that were true, the women would’ve got to vote right from the beginning of the United States of America. And as for slaves participating, you’ve got to be kidding. I have heard that the “Great White Father” took into consideration some of the ways the Natives governed themselves. Get real. It was the rich, white men who wrote and signed the consitution of the United States of America.

          • libertytrain

            Winnie, winnie, winnie, – it was over 200 years ago, a different time, a different culture of people. What you say today you believe should have occurred or chastising what occurred is irrelevant. It was those people, living under the ideals of their time, that created this Country and they did not say, ‘gee I hope Winnie won’t get her undies in a bundle in a couple hundred years from now.’ And their women folk were quite amazing. http://womenshistory.about.com/cs/firstladies/p/p_abigailadams.htm

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        as to women, when there is a traditional family, the man is the head but the woman is the neck. She can turn the head anyway she wants. it was true then, more so than now. As to Blacks, they’ve just traded on Massa for another. They slave for the Federal gvt. and the Dem. Party now. Only difference is that they don’t have to work, but they are still slaves. The Indians were too busy killing each other to unify then. One exception was the Five Leagues of the Iriqois. Some of the Constitution was modeled after their confedration laws.

        • Winnie

          What a much of crap gunner.

          • libertytrain

            while I’m not quite sure what your sentence/sentence structure means, I’m going to have to go along with much of what he/gunner said, particularly about the women.

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            What specifically do you call crap, Winnie ? I think it’s all pretty factual.

          • Winnie

            The crap that I am talking about is how you view women and their role in family and in society settings. In a matriarchial society, the grandmothers look out for the what is best for the children. I know because the society that I grow up in was mostly run by men but ruled by the grandmothers. Our “consitution” was made for the children and future children in mind. Keep the animals around and healthy. Take care of the Elders and the children. If an able bodied man was not working with the community he was given a choice to work or leave. But the grandmothers were the ones who made the decisions. I don’t know about the other cultures, but the dominant society in the US and Canada is the White culture and to them women are second class.

            And Libery, you say it was two hundred years ago. So why are you still following what men wrote back then. Believe it or not many men still think women are still less than the man. Take a look at the pay scales of our society. It is still and always will be that the women balances out the men. As the men get weaker, the women get stronger. This is true in all cultures because women carried you men for nine months. Then men disrespect them and think they are smarter, stronger, and, have more rights. What a life for the women, blacks, Native Americans, and gays.

          • libertytrain

            you might want to do some research on that woman pay thing. I recollect a news story just recently about that it is now going the other way and the young women are making more than their male counterparts/husbands/boyfriends.
            I don’t know – I don’t agree with you as far as current-day women go. But perhaps I nor my peers are experiencing whatever you do wherever you are located.

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            Winnie you need to lay off the left wing Kool-aid. It’s the liberals who destroyed the traditional family structure in our country. Todays young women don’t have the basic skills that had been passed down from mother to daughter for centuries, such as canning, gardening, sewing, and child raising. our society is the poorer because of that. Many young women don’t even have the knowledge or back bone to say No to men’s sexual advances. most females today are or should be an embarassment to their grandmothers. The same can be said for many young males. Both genders, in many cases, have become over-grown, over-aged children without a moral compass to follow or a work ethic to achieve. When you expect little or nothing from a person that’s what you get.

        • Mike In MI

          Well, Winnie (Jan 11, 8:45) -
          Sounds like the culture you come from had their heads on a pretty solid base. Most of what you said lines up exactly with Biblical principles. I’d be interested to learn more about where you’ve come from and how successful your group was in the environment they were in – and why you left.
          Most people don’t think about it too much – they just assume men always have to be in the leadership position. But it isn’t necessarily so. At times…when God couldn’t get a man to lead Israel…some great woman would rise up as a prophetess/leader. Hulda, Esther, others. Men were generally the leaders because he isn’t as well equipped to take care of the kids. But, fellas you’ve got to admit: “It’s the hand that directs the child that rules the land.” The only problem with women in top leadership is their hormone set up inside tends to make them prone to negotiate and compromise. Sometimes that’s worthy. That works great in a family and a household but it wouldn’t have helped Jesus Christ in his battle against ultimate evil. He was not a wimp as most people depict him . He was a tough, but tender, demanding, but just, leader who made up his mind on the basis of the Truth he knew from the Scrolls (or if God told him in another way to move in a certain direction) and pushed to satisfactory conclusions.

          • Winnie

            Thanks Mike. I was born and raised in a remote Yupik Eskimo village in Alaska. The people in my community took to Christianity very easily because Jesus Christ walked the same path as our people walked. He walked with Truth, Respect, Love, Humility, Bravery, Honesty, and Wisdom. As the other races of men and women came into our village, so did alcohol and drugs. This was in the sixties. Parents forgot to care for their children and Elders because they were controlled by alcohol and drugs. Same thing that happened to the North American Native people. We just didn’t know how to keep our control in check. I married a Canadian man in 1969 in Chicago, where I was taking an accounting course in college. The people from back home are just now beginning to realize what they have let go and are in the process of recapturing our culture. But I’ve always depended on the Spirit of “Jesus Christ” to evenually bring back the balance that was lost. Thanks for asking.

          • libertytrain

            Beautiful and terribly sad at the same time. I wish your people nothing but good things to recapture all that was lost.

          • Winnie

            Thank you Liberty.

  • http://aol nancy says

    we the people need to remember the constituion in United States of America, I believe congress did
    a great thing by reading the constitution. Both parties need to get back to basic, right now.
    Stop spending money.

    • hundabuxt

      Stop printing money and halt the escalation of inflation. Stop robbing Social Security like thieves in the night content to decieve those without the escoteric understanding of the mechanics of government. Government is a poor investment.

      • wayne

        The only way we can do that hundabuxt is to find out who is doing it and fire that person from office. I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of Congress as they conrol the purse strings. We need to get rid of the big time spenders in Congress. Everyone must live within their means, but Congress. They spend this huge sums of money in their district to buy your vote.

  • http://com i41

    The Dept of Education is planning on doing away with any government and civics classes. Instead approved reading, Saul Alinski, Karl Marx and Mein Kempe, it wasn’t stated it was Hitler’s book. So what s–t birds do we point the cause of ruination of our schools, the federal government from the early 60′s in taking control of local school districts, the teacher socialist union, and the soros socialist party smucks who were in complete controlling all branches of government. Just like we have had the last 2 years. Total government control and regulations will keep beign exposed as time keeps moving along.If anyone one wants to see how stupid American are on how bills are put together and passed, as college freshmen and even people in their 60′s. The bigger the schools and more college the dumber and dorker they are. When idoits have problems with polatical discussions, you know they are pretty stupid on understanding how government was set up to work, and how it has been been compromised.

    • Kinetic1

      Ah, so clever i41. If only you had some sort of grip on reality. As I noted before, schools have not abandoned civics or the Constitution. In fact, they may be emphasizing these topics more now than they did 20 years ago. And while we’re speaking of education, you need some help with your Yiddish. The word you want is “Schmuck”, not “smuck. How could you get that wrong? Well, I suppose you heard it from some schmuck who didn’t even know it was Yiddish. Oy Gevalt!

  • UnpopedKernals

    i41′s spelling and sentence structure are Crown Royal. Why does he get away with the bad words and diatribe and I cannot. Of course, please do not stop him. Just explain your position Mr. Bob Livingston. Is i41 your reclusive, reactionary, brother in law who lives in a ranch hand cabin on the Front Range? Or, is he your alter ego, who emerges after a few shot of ‘quila?

    • Kinetic1

      Unpoped,
      It’s best to just ignore folks like i41, which is easy when you consider how much effort one must exert to read his posts.

    • Mike In MI

      Unpoped -
      Only the unhinged would lash out at Mr. Livingston, as you have, without reading some of his work and finding out his stance on issues.
      Try doing that before you make stupid assumptions and say really foolish things. Then tell Mr. Livingston you’re sorry. That’s what a MAN would do. Got the stuff?

      • UnpopedKernals

        You are correct Mike. I only read Mr. Bob’s posts. I do not read books in general. I apologize for my choice of words and any references of kinship between Mr. Bob and i41. Of course, I like i41′s occassional dirty posts, rambling paragraph structure, and new spellings of old words. I like his threats and suggestions of violence. I just want to be able to lay the blame for ………on the …………. and see it posted and attacked or backed. Then, again, having been to many sites that allow foul language and name calling back and forth which I never do, I can see why Mr. bob wants to maintain control. He who pays determines how the rest play.

  • Seth Stallin

    The constitution is what this country is based on. It’s our rule and guide. Without it we are nothing other than a communist state. Wither you agree or not the reading of the constitution was long overdue to say the lease. As a matter of fact President Osama’s first official act was to lay his hand on the bible and take the oath of office. And if you recall not long thereafter his swearing to uphold the constitution of the United States went on to became the 1st American president to Chair the Security Counsel of the United Nations. If you are literate in the constitution you already know that it was in direct violation of the US constitution for Obama to chair that council. Section 9 of the Constitution says: No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State. Never in the history of the United Nations has a U.S. President taken the chairmanship of the powerful UN Security Council. Perhaps it is because of what could arguably be a Constitutional prohibition against doing so. We are all in this together and as long as we bicker and fight between the parties we are distracted about what the real issues are. Have a blessed day my friends. Through brotherly love we can defeat hate.

    • wayne

      Seth, did President Obama lay his hands on he Bible, or on the Quaran. Mualim folks do not follow our Bible.

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        I believe it was the Communist Manifesto.

  • Janice Fortin

    High praise for the person who thought of reading the CONSTITUTION OF AMERICA! The pledge of allegiance should be reinstated in classrooms.
    The motto of America is IN GOD WE TRUST. The trouble with America is we misrepresent the meaning of FREEDOM. FREEDOM DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE FREE TO CHANGE AMERICA. We must stand firm for that which this country is based on. JFK recognized that patriotism is a love of country, and that without this love, no country can succeed. Almost his first action was to put out a mandate to strss patriotism and knowledge of America in all schools, starting with kindergarten. there are many who, with good cause, question how much love for this country, and its occupants, is alive in the present administration. It follows that if the ultimate and ulterior motive and ambition is to become ruler of the WORLD, A LA U.N, weakening its strongest country, USA, militarily, outsurcing, eliminating border control, importing sects known to be anti American, allowing and encouraging nonsense from the ACLU picking away at its laws and diminishing its greatness in any way possible, and destroying the very sovereignty of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, would be the strategy alright. When the government attempts to PARACHUTE A LAW TO AMERICAN CITIZENS WHETHER THEY WANT IT OR NOT…..YOU KNOW THE FREEDOM OF AMERICA HAS BEEN KICKED TO THE CURB. UNREAD LAWS SHOULD BE AN ILLEGAL ACT AND CONGRESS SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT IS A CRIME AGAINST THE CITIZENS OF AMERICA, AND A DELIBERATE VIOLATION OF THEIR OATH OF OFFICE. The TEA PARTY exists as a result of such abuse, and from where I sit, I think it will continue to hold the president, congress, and lawmakers’ feet to the fire, and to let them know not a single one of them is ABOVE THE LAW. those who can’t or refuse to do their job should get a great big foot in the part of their anatomy that describes their character. But folks, with UNELECTED CZARS with sweeping powers, WE THE PEOPLE are in serious danger of losing ours.
    If America lets this administraion control the INTERNET, you will NEVER ENJOY FREEDOM OF SPEECH AGAIN. AWAKEN AMERICA, TYRANNY IS ALMOST UPON US!

    • wayne

      I agree with your message, Janice. The current administration and the so called Democratic Congress we have had for the last two years has taken a toll on our freedom. I feel that the majority of the American People just don’t get it, once you freedom is gone we will never get it back. We need more folks like yourself to spread the word for freedom. I have tried to do my part, but at times I think it is like trying to push over a giant oak tree by the hands. When are people ever going to wake up?

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    The left hates the Constitution, unless it serves their purpose. The Constitution is what keeps us free citizens instead of subjects to some overpowering gvt. authority.

  • American Patriot

    911 Was an inside job. Go to youtube and watch “911 loose change” full length documentry Documents, documents, documents, exposing the truth. Wake up America. Please, Wake up. Also, look up S-510 in the health care bill that Obama Berry sotoero signed right after news year day. That bans all Americans from growing their own food. Yep! it’s true. No more gardens in your own back yard to feed yourself and your family.

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