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House Republicans Reveal New Budget With $26 Billion More In Cuts

February 15, 2011 by  

House Republicans reveal new budget with $26 billion more in cutsThe House Appropriations Committee has introduced a new proposal that would cut $100 billion from President Barack Obama's 2011 budget request, meeting the original pledge that was made last year by conservative Republicans.

The GOP-led budget committee unveiled its original proposal last week that, if approved, would have cut $74 billion from Obama's plan. However, fiscally conservative lawmakers urged the panel to make more cuts to honor the $100 billion that was promised in the GOP's Pledge to America.

According to The Associated Press, the savings are much less when measured against current spending because the government has been operating on last year's levels since Oct. 1. However, the $100 billion in cuts are accounted for when compared to Obama's proposal, which has not been enacted. The goal of most Republicans is to roll back spending to 2008 levels.

"Our intent is to make deep but manageable cuts in nearly every area of government, leaving no stone unturned and allowing no agency or program to be held sacred," said Appropriations Committee Chairman Hal Rogers (R-Ky.), quoted by The Washington Post.

Stop-gap spending is scheduled to expire on March 4, which means that Congress must agree on a budget in the next several weeks to avoid a government shutdown. Senator Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) accused the GOP of causing gridlock by "blindly swiping a meat ax to the budget," according to the news provider.

Meanwhile, the conservative grassroots group Heritage Action has claimed that the most recent proposal is inadequate. The organization said that the GOP's budget plan is $16 billion short in cuts because only $84 billion in non-security spending cuts have been proposed. 

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  • Doc Sarvis

    So the Republicans want to put the burden (through decrease in services) on those who have yet to gain the most from our country’s system of government, laws, resources, infrastructure, etc. while giving those who have benefitted the most from those things a big break (through the tax break).

    • LES

      And the Democrats want to put the burden on future generations that cannot now defend themselves from the crushing price they will be required to pay.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Actually, they would prefer to have the filthy rich pay more to work down the deficit since they have benefitted the most from all our country has to offer.

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          Doc… How do the ‘filthy rich’ benefit the most from what the country has to offer? They pay a higher percentage of income tax than those in other brackets. They are not collecting welfare benefits, food stamps, or asking for free health care. What do you have against people who work their way into a better life? Why should they be forced to be responsible for those who don’t? Charity is one thing, but being forced to pay for those who are not interested in bettering their lifestyle is hardly fair. There are those that truly are in need, which are the ones that the government handouts were set up to help. And there are others that will never be physically able to do for themselves and will always need some kind of help. But there are far too many others that are standing in line waiting for their ‘entitlements’. Those are the ones who are able and should not be in this ‘line’.

          • Tom from Idaho

            You are dead-on right, Robin! What we have is a mentality of “tax the ‘rich’, they won’t miss it”. The “filthy rich”, by the way, are those that also generate the jobs. I have to ask, when did anyone ever get a job from a poor person? Taxing the so-called “filthy rich” is nothing more than confiscation and a conscription into the service of what goes under the guise of “charity”. Further, the mass exodus of the “filthy rich” from such fine states as New York and California is due to their “tax the rich” policies. When they go so go the jobs in that state and so goes the revenues for that state.

          • eddie47d

            Sure these businesses move to another state but where is the wealth supposedly generated in these “new” states. We in America have relearned how to accept peanuts while some companies rake in billions. The wealthy deserve a fair shake in job creation but not the 300-500% increases they give themselves over the average worker. That is what Doc means by the filthy rich who play corporate pirates.Too many make money but are they earning it. In some cases I would say a resounding no.

          • independant thinker

            The “filthy rich” will not pay one cent more in taxes. Those that will pay more are the “just rich enough” people. In other words those who have worked hard and made their business grow from a local business to a large regional or small national business but have not made it to “filthy rich”.

          • Jovianus

            While the nickname “filthy rich’ may not be applicable to many who have high incomes and assets, they certainly have benefitted far more with our system than the average American. And the wealthy by most measures are subsidized more than any other segment of our society.

            As for the false statement the rich are responsible for jobs….one has to ask…how many rich bought a car last year compared to how many cars were puchased overall in this country?

          • michelleo

            WELL SAID Robin :)

          • Bruce D.

            Nice post Robin. Doc and his friends think it is their right to take money that other people have worked for and pass it around. Politicians like to do it to buy votes as a form of corruption and assault on the constitution by creating a socialistic society. Obama is on a path to destroy the dollar as the world currency. If this happens you will soon see the Socialist party come to a quick end. Socialism cannot stand alone on the backs of productive people. Governments need to borrow and issue money. Without massive debt socialistic societies go into quick decline. With massive debt they go into a slower decline with a fast ending.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jovianus,
            how many jobs have you gotten from a poor person??? Did they pay you well??I’ll bet they bought a lot of those cars you speak of, right?? No? Then wake up to the truth!!

        • Tim Clark

          Doc, I like the way you associate “filthy” with “rich.” Those families that have worked themselves up to an income level over $250k, are filthy? And those who haven’t, are somehow more deserving of the rewards of hard work? Not in my book. Anyway Doc, we’re beyond broke as a country due to government spending. Time to cut up their credit cards.

      • Brett

        Les u think they care about future generations? No their proudly killing them off for some reason in the name of choice.

    • Jovianus

      GOP plan as far as I can tell is to continue subsidizing the wealthy on the backs of America via tax cuts, then cutting out programs which are vital to our national security.

      Science cut 23%
      R&D cut 27%
      Job training cut 50%
      Energy freedom cut 65%

      And their pet programs to aid the wealthy are increased. Including buying defense equipment the DOD states it doesn’t want nor need (but the manufacturers have plants in Boehner’s and Cantor’s districts).

      • Brett

        It doesn’t look like their cutting enough. Because I didn’t see any social programs or worthless depts eliminated

        • Jovianus

          Brett: It’s the same ol’ GOP program of late. Subsidize the wealthy and Big Corporations, endanger our national security, tax the hell outta the Middle Class while cutting their programs…and have the rest of the nation pay for that subsidy program.

          The Cold War ended around 1990. Take a gander at the military budget and tell us why it needs to be so large. Subsidies for Big Ag … are those really needed? Tax breaks for multi nationals to ship our jobs overseas…that’s helping us? Tax and subsidies to Big Oil…c’mon…give me a break.

          • 45caliber

            I’ll tell you what … let’s cut out ALL welfare! Both the corperate welfare and the individual welfare. We might even balance the budget that way!

          • Jovianus

            45: Nice battle cry. Unrealistic, totally devoid of thinking, and utterly destructive to the economy and our society, fact is, it’s guaranteed to bring the ruin of this Nation but that doesn’t worry those who make the noises of regurgitation …it makes for red meat for those who need a simplistic concept to form their minds around. The Glen Beck formula.

          • 45caliber

            You called a lot of names but you never once explained why it was a bad idea to stop Welfare. We never had welfare prior to the mid ’60s and no one starved. I seriously doubt if anyone would now. Some might think they will since they might have to work otherwise but I doubt that.

          • Jovianus

            45…I never called anyone names ! And you are in error thinking no one starved before welfare was implemented as a program to help the poor and downtrodden. That was THE EXACT REASON why it was created !

            The stigma you attach to welfare I believe comes from the 70′s when the social experiment of “the projects” was tried…and shown to be abject failure.

            Yes..there are people who use welfare as income for life. No doubt about it. But those are a very few minority in cmparison to those who use it as a last gasp attempt to stave off starvation and homelessness. Most welfare recipients, the vast majority…are in the program less than a year.

            What I am puzzled by is the lack of GOP warmth to “workfare’ where recepients are mandated to perform a few hours of work for the city they live in (a day?). Clinton cut a deal with Gingrich to have that put ito temporary effect…employment rates of the recipeients grew, number of active caseloads fell, etc.

            It was effectively killed by the Bush administration who cut funding for the wage subsidies and block grants for the program.

            So….program by program..what would you kill?

          • 45caliber

            Jovianus:

            “Unrealistic, totally devoid of thinking, and utterly destructive to the economy and our society, fact is, it’s guaranteed to bring the ruin of this Nation but that doesn’t worry those who make the noises of regurgitation …it makes for red meat for those who need a simplistic concept to form their minds around.”

            Sounds like names to me. “totally devoid of thinking”? “those who need a simplictic comcept to form their minds around”?

            Anyway, the welfare system was NOT set up to feed those who were starving despite what you libs might think. I used to have a document on disk – unfortunately a 5 1/4″ floppy that I can’t read any more – that explained what started the welfare department.

            In the mid ’60s, Johnson and others could see the end of draft coming. No more draft for the military. Up until that time they used the military to take care of the younger people who couldn’t find work. They were, basically, drafting a number to balance the needs of the work force against the total number available. They hired a think tank to determine what could be done to give them another way to do this. True, they were only drafting the men but there really wasn’t that many women in the work force at that time.

            I had a copy of the report. The think tank stated that instead of using the draft, they could institute welfare. But they were warned in the report to use it sparingly and to get the people off it as soon as possible. This would give income to the people who could work that weren’t needed and not have any causing trouble due to a lack of jobs for them. So Johnson immediately started pushing it to help those who couldn’t find jobs. Later it became what it is now.

            So – NO, it wasn’t started to keep people from starving. Most could get help from friends, family, neighbors, or churches if they were in that strait and most did. It was started for political reasons to help stabilize the economy.

            Too bad I can’t open it now. I don’t know if it can be found on internet now but there wasn’t one then. Feel free to look.

          • Jovianus

            45: I stated that your statements were a battle cry for those …. [and I went on describing those mindsets ...]

            That report you described sounds like it was written by Bancroft wherein he attacked public assistance and housing as creating a “dependency” of the poor and that the modern welfare state was created to keep revolution from the doorstep of the wealthy elite. Bancroft became the “15 minutes of fame” darling of the Right when he penned a virulent attack against Johnson’s Great Society back in the mid 60′s. His later publications which came out in the late 60′s and early 70′s destroyed that Conservative admiration when he theorized that the welfare state was bad not because it led to socialism..but because it PREVENTED revolution and creation of a true socialist state.

            Bancroft saw welfare, and attacked it as evil, because it was a bribe to prevent social unrest of the masses leading to overthrow of the capitalist system !

            There may be something to his ideas if you stop and think about it. Go to any non-welfare state, noticable is poverty as well as walls around houses topped with broken glass. And very heavy police presence supporting the ruling powers.

            Reform welfare? Tweak it into a jobs and/or training program? Bring back workfare? All have merit to discuss.

            Eliminate welfare? Careful what you ask for…

          • http://?? Joe H.

            45caliber,
            Good news from Ohio! They are trying to pass a law that says people on welfare have to pass a drug test before they can get welfare. I believe they said at least 6 times a year!!! Good News Indeed!!!

          • Bruce D.

            The taxpayer does should not be paying someone welfare who is on drugs.

      • eggsbenedict

        Jovianus:
        “And their pet programs to aid the wealthy are increased. Including buying defense equipment the DOD states it doesn’t want nor need (but the manufacturers have plants in Boehner’s and Cantor’s districts).”

        You liberals are always spouting off stuff like this and never offering a smattering of proof as to what you have said. The Obamanation is good at doing this also just because he has the “bully” pulpit and he knows that the people will not go and try to verify what he has said. Wake up and start putting statements of proof with your jibberish so that we can verify what you have said otherwise we don’t know if you are telling the truth or not!!

        • Jovianus

          Eggs, scramble this as an example of the GOP goals to cut wasteful spending …

          http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2011-02-14-budgetinside14_ST_N.htm

        • Jovianus

          By the way EB…what is it about this board that every time someone comes up with reasonable rational ideas and thoughts, they’re castigated as being “liberals” ?

          Basically, you’re stating the only ones who have reasonable rational thoughts are liberals.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jovianus,
            As proven by your obvious hero Nobama?? Thanks but NO THANKS!!!!

      • Bruce D.

        This is something Jovianus and the left do not like to talk much about. They believe businesses make money by just opening their doors and it falls into their lap.
        “According to a new report commissioned by the Small Business Administration, federal regulations now cost our economy $1.75 trillion per year.”

        “That’s fully half the federal budget of $3.5 trillion for 2010. The hidden costs break down to $15,586 per person, annually – about 50% more than the $10,500 we pay for healthcare!”

        “According to Forbes, 60 government agencies now pump out 3,000 new regulations every year. No wonder the recovery’s taking more time than we’d like.”

        • 45caliber

          You are correct. Libs just don’t get it. He stated above that the Welfare system was set up to keep people from starving. That people did starve regularly in the US prior to it. More lib thinking.

          • Jovianus

            45:

            Have you ever read Upton Sinclair?

    • marvin

      Doc Sarvis
      you sound like you have money to burn so you can pay my part of the 15 trillion dollar hole we are in, the dept in 09/30/2000,was 5.674.178.209.886 thats 5 trillion 674 billion 178 million so much for the clinton surplus,in 09/30/2006 8,506,973,899,215 ,about 3 trillion increase in 6 years of bush ,from 09/30/2006 tell, now 2011 the dems incharge of both houses of congress and the white house, 14.8 trillion thats an increase of over a trillion dollars a year for five years liberals lie figure,s don,t clinton 500 billion a year ,bush 500 billion a year ,obama 1 trillion a year

      • 45caliber

        marvin:

        The Clinton “surplus” wasn’t a surplus despite how the liberals talk about it. He just didn’t get as much spent in the hole as they had initially expected. If you only overspend by half a trillion instead of one trillion, they call it a half trillion “surplus”.

    • EddieW

      26 billion in cuts…are we supposed to say wow? That is exactly if I have 200 cigarettes, and I give you the last bit of the one I’m smoking….that’s 26 billionth, of the whole!! Gutless Bas***** They agreed to cut 100 Billion, that would have been close to a whole cigarette of the 200!!

    • Wild Bill

      I have a great idea to put our fiscal troubles behind us.First we fire every last federal employee,military excepted,that draws a paycheck.Immediatly stop sending any money to the IRS and instead send those monies to your respective state treasuries.Those treasuries would be charged with forming an alliance among all 50 states to take over the military expenditures formerly controlled by the feds,along with social security,medicare and medicaid and housing for the needy.Immediatly outlaw the following departments,Department of Education,Department of Agriculture,Food and Drug Administration,Housing and Urban Developement,IRS,EPA,Endowments to the Arts,Department of Justice,Fannie May and Freddie Mac and audit and END the FED.This is just a partial list of parasitical,wasteful,criminal federal enterprises.After disbanding these parasitical entities,we stop ALL foreign aid payments,especially those administered by the Un.We then kick the UN out of the country and let them know in no uncertain terms not to expect any more money from the US Republic.Kick every last illegal out of the country and immediatly stop welfare payments to those deported illegals still receiving monthly welfare checks yet live in Mexico.Seal and secure our Southern border with American troops.If all else fails we send every last liberal/progressive to all the starving countries in the world and let the natives know that they are good to eat if you add a little garlic.I am fed up with high energy prices because the idiots in DC,who are still believers in the global warming scam,will not let us utilize our vast proven fossil fuel reserves.I live in Alaska,where,if we were allowed,we could provide all the energy needs of our Republic for the next 20 years without an ounce of imported oil.Instead they would have us turn immediatly to technology that is still in its infancy,expensive,and in many cases proven to be unreleable.It is way past time to get our Republic back,and back on track without the interference of the liberal intellectual elites who are determined to destroy our faith in God,country,family and every last American tradition that has made our Republic the greatest nation in history.

      PS….Under the statehood act the state of Alaska was to receive a percentage of the lands for state use.As of today,the federal government which owns and controls 69.1 percent of our 656425 square miles has yet to fully transfer those lands to the state as part of our statehood compact.This just goes to prove that you cannot trust ABYTHING signed to or said by a DC congress critter.
      Wild Bill
      Alaska

    • Bruce D.

      Any able bodied person under 67 needs to start taking jobs that they feel only Mexicans should do if they do not have a job. They need to get off welfare, period. No social services and jobs to illegals and that will send them packing voluntarily. Huge fines for employers hiring them. No one should be supporting these people. Every American needs to contribute something to society. Doc feels people are entitled to a free lunch. I do not see that as a birthright or a provision in the Constitution for it. Mexicans are here because these free lunch people do not want those jobs. It is a fallacy that 1% or 5% of the population can maintain a high standard of living for everyone. It doesn’t work even with a 100% tax.

    • Dan az

      Doc
      Mr. Obama‘s budget projects that 2011 will see the biggest one-year debt jump in history, or nearly $2 trillion, to reach $15.476 trillion by Sept. 30, the end of the fiscal year. That would be 102.6 percent of GDP — the first time since World War II that dubious figure has been reached.

      And the budget projects the government will run a deficit of $1.645 trillion this year, topping 2009’s previous record by more than $230 billion. By contrast, 2007’s deficit was just $160 billion altogether.

      Still, amid the other staggering numbers in the budget Mr. Obama sent to Congress on Monday, the debt stands out because Congress will need to vote to raise the debt limit later this year, and because the numbers are so large.

      In one often-cited study, economists Carmen Reinhart and Ken Rogoff have argued that when a nation’s gross debt passes 90 percent it hinders overall economic growth. The government measures debt several ways. Debt held by the public includes the money borrowed from Social Security’s trust fund.

    • http://PERSONALLIBERTY DANIEL HALSTEAD

      Hey doc”

      If you can find six more people like you who have 2 trillion dollars
      to spare we simply wouldn’t have this deficit any more, right?Duh.

  • Mick

    let’s start with cutting the luxuries to prisons,criminals are there for punishment not rewards then move on to the welfare appartments costing tax payers up to $ 2000 a month in some cities, let the welfare recipient survive on powdered milk and eggs for awhile and see how fast they will get off he gravy train, let’s cut ALL foreign aid, let’s stop the construction fraud when you see many people doing absolutely nothing and let’s stop them from tearing up roads just put up , there are so many ways to cut spending and put us back on track financially, all we need is officials with moral values and balls to do what’s needed to salvage the mess the democrats and some republicans have put america in.

    • s c

      Mick, it should be obvious to most people that Uncle Scam has NO interest in doing ANYTHING right. Regardless of the topic, Uncle Scam will find ways to screw up everything he touches (it’s the one thing he’s good at).
      With LOSERS like Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Schumer, Fwank, Waxman and Obama ‘leading’ the way, things will get more expensive and more complicated until EVEYTHING comes crashing down. See them for who they are, or get used to being screwed by Uncle Scam forever.
      While we still have some time left, we could ship our hardcore criminals (including a bunch of people who are on death row) to MEXICAN prisons. Think of all the MONEY we could save. We’d know they’d be treated “humanely,” and given enough time they might even get “rehabilitated.”
      Without a doubt, Mexico leads the world in prisons (right?), so let’s just do it (rather than wait for the SOBs and retards in Washington to get on board). It’s an idea whose time has come. Besides, we deserve to KNOW if our “leaders” have any plans for saving money or making America a safer country.

      • eddie47d

        Sc; The USA has the largest incarceration rate in the world. Are you that much safer? There are just not enough corporate crooks in our jails to help our economy along. The wealthy are still wealthy and the “lesser” folks keep sliding right in through those prison doors. You wouldn’t wish a 3 legged dog be sent to a Mexican prison and in some of their states the families have to provide the food or they do without. We have little rehabilatation here and in Mexico they have none. Nothing changes because we (and they) do the same thing the same way over and over again.

        • Bruce D.

          They should be putting people in jail for welfare fraud and Medicare fraud. People in jail for possession of drugs for personnel use should get heavy fines instead of jail. Those selling drugs illegally should stay in jail a long time. That should clear up some time.

      • 45caliber

        s c:

        I must correct you. You said that Uncle Scam was screwing everything up. Not true!

        They have the perfect system for lawyers and politicians now in operation. It might not be perfect for you and I but it certainly is for them. They can get tons of “free” money out of it and retain in power as long as they want to be there. It is almost impossible for us to get rid of one of them and they are the ones that make sure of it. Either no one else is allowed to run against them (that has a chance of beating them) or they simply use their union friends to insure that they get the vote anyway, like Reid did in NV. It is easy to program those voting computers to do what they want and then reprogram them back as soon as the voting is over so no one will catch it. They set their own pay and they set their own perks. They also are the ones to “investigate” themselves when someone points out that they did something wrong. I can’t see how they can possibly make a better system – for them.

        • eddie47d

          I brought this up about 16 months ago. That there were 3 major makers of voting machines. All 3 owners said they are Republicans so they are the ones who have the inside scoop on how these voting machines work.There is far less voting fraud in our system than you seem to imply.Saying there is fraud doesn’t make it so.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            Name them so we can see if they are union shops!!!

    • http://MSN.com RonaldL

      Let’s deport all illegal immigrants and close our borders.

      • Jovianus

        I say let’s keep our borders open..closing them works both ways y’know. Let’s toss the true criminals…the employers of illegals..into jail for a few months. Recoup the lost taxes the employer evades, and make competition level with those who employ Americans.

        Now…why hasn’t the GOP come up with that concept? You should be asking yourself that question…and ask your representative that question.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Gee that’s strange, I don’t see you wanting to cut out welfare to them!! The illegals that is!

          • Bruce D.

            Nor is he mentioning the democrats responsibility in this. No open borders period.

    • 45caliber

      Mick:

      I agree with you on all your suggestions. We have a road here in Houston that the DJs on the radio call the “401K Freeway”. You can start work on it right out of highschool and retire still working on it.

  • Warrior

    While the house is burning to the ground, these clowns are out shopping for new blinds!

    • Les

      “Manageable cuts”?? Is that what we voted for? SO they will put us $100 Billion less in debt than they planned? So now, instead of charging $12,000 to each of my grandkids credit cards they will only charge $11,200 (this year), how wonderful. I think I will try the same tactic with my bank. Their are too many hookers in congress, time for a big protest (if I can borrow some traveling cash).

  • Lisa

    How the Obama budget might fall on your shoulders
    I see again the cuts will hit the poor the most including in their education while giving to Wall street buds of Obama. Cut Plan parenthood-Cut Acorn-Cut pay raises in Washington ! Cut useing plans for joy rides that government official take- Cut out their free government official lunches they get on the tax payers dime.Cut thier use of government cars they ride for free by tax payers dollars, Make them use their own car like real Americans do to go to work,shop what ever !Cut out giving welfare/housing to illegals. Stop sending money to Kenya for laws that Obama want’s there like 23 million he send to make sure abortion are the law. Stop healthcare bill now ! Make government pay for thier own health insurance like we the people has to do of those who work hard and pay their own way. Drill baby drill here in America. Stop funding the terrorist with our money !

    Take out SEIU FUNDING NOW ! iF ANYONE WANT’S AN ABORTION.gO FUND IT YOURSELF OUT OF YOUR OWN POCKET.Plan parent hood is funded by the government and now in the healthcare bill we all the people are made to murder babies if we like it or not. This is attack on the poor again. They keep the poor down and while they want to tax the rich as well as the poor more now.It’s wrong ! The rich gives us jobs.They business will more move out of U.S and where will we be ? MORE POOR WILL BE IN THIS COUNTRY.Look at the other countrys in which they did to the people.their government did it to them.And we as we give millions of dollars for those countrys to help those people the government keep the money..It does not go for those people at all.It’s all kiss my tail and we will kiss your tail… GOVERNMENT HERE IN u.s ARE ALL ABOUT THEIR AGENDA.AGAINST THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE .iT’S ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT.How do you think more and more people live like dogs ? GOVERNMENT DOES IT TO US

    • TIME

      LISA,

      Its really quite simple, we don’t have a governemt and have not had one that was working for the “TAX PAYERS” for well over 100 years now.
      Its only that people think we have a government thats working for the “TAX PAYERS.” Mostly due to the fact that the TAX PAYERS are working to pay the TAX’S so that the Mice can build a NEW World Order.

      The strange part is that somehow the Cats working have been working like Dogs for so long that they now think they are DOGS.
      But the Mice have been robbing, and building all the while.

      When the Mice are done, there will be only the RULING MICE, and the POOR cats, that are now all living in governmant housing and getting only what the government allows them to eat. they will need no cars as they will not be going anywhere other than to work for the Mice that run the show.
      I bet the cats wish they were awake a long time ago after they all get their new digs complete with a LARGE wall sized Tellie that tells them what they will do hour by hour, day by day, month by month until they all get the two dollar needle when they have no value to the MICE anylonger.

      • Don

        Time
        Truer words were never spoken, when will people wake up to this Government, throw the bums out !!

    • ValDM

      The President ordered the cabinet to cut a whopping $100 million from the $3.5 trillion federal budget!

      I’m so impressed by this sacrifice that I have decided to do the same thing with my personal budget. I spend about $2000 a month on groceries, medicine, bills, etc, but it’s time to get out the budget cutting ax, go line by line through my expenses, and go to work.

      I’m going to cut my spending at exactly the same ratio -1/35,000 of my total budget. After doing the math, it looks like instead of spending $2000 a month; I’m going to have to cut that number by six cents!

      Yes, I’m going to have to get by with $1999.94, but that’s what sacrifice is all about. I’ll just have to do without some things, that are, frankly, luxuries.

      I hope you will make the sacrifice and join me in this endeavor.

      • 45caliber

        You missed a decimal point. It is actually 60 cents. However, that just means that you have to give up that single candy bar. Sorry about that, but it is best for the nation, right?

        • ValDM

          Thanks for the correction, 45. But still, It gives a pretty clear picture of the paltry offering of cutting $100 billion.

          • independant thinker

            While I agree that is a miniscule amount compared to the total budget you have to start somewhere. What must be done is keep their feet to the fire and demand more cuts next year and more the next do not become complacent with hearing they are cutting and let them go back to business as usual and more importantly do not let the rest of America become complacent.

          • 45caliber

            independent:

            How about more cuts NOW?

          • Dan az

            ValDM
            If they raise the debt limit then what good is cutting the budget?They will just spend it somewhere else twice as fast!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          45caliber,
          I heard on the news today that it will increase thefederal employees by 5000!!!!!

          • 45caliber

            That does not surprise me. Actually, I’ll be surprised if it is only 5000.

  • Macawma

    Doc, pull your head out…those that have been on the government tit for sooooo long, have had plenty of opportunities to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and do better for themselves. Many of us have done that. All it takes is a bit of ambition and brains, but if the government is handing out freebies all the time, where’s the incentive? There are so many wasteful programs in this country that need to be cut or, better yet, eliminated. But every time someone pisses and moans about losing their “entitlements” some bleeding hearts step in and all hell breaks loose. It’s the same mindset that has caused thousands of Americans to have huge credit card debt. Just spend, spend, spend for the moment without any thought to the consequences. That is what is wrong. The other night on the news, which I abhor watching other than to see what the MSM is telling the public, Obama was talking about cuts in spending and saying “we haven’t even worked on SS or Medicaid yet”. SS was supposed to have been funded; so where did all that go? Robbing Peter to pay Paul is where, and now the government has thier shorts all bunched up.

    • Doc Sarvis

      There are A LOT of very hard working Americans who are barly making it and need a helping hand. A very small percentage of aid ends up going to those who are waiting for a hand out.

      • http://naver samurai

        Self reliance, personal responsibility, and the vigilance to ensure that government remains our servants and not our masters. 하나님 하고 나라를 위해서! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Doc Sarvis

          You must be aware that Jesus was a very STRONG advocate for the poor. Taking care of those in need is the right thing to do. Would you dissagree with that?

          • TIME

            Yes I would highly disagree with you doc.

            Jesus said “teach a man to fish,” { not give these people fish’s, give them a home pay thier bills and make sure they get a new car, the latest new Cell phone and you dumb sobs that work for a living owe the POOR a lot more so just shut up and do it.}

            Get a job, work hard and save and build on you’re dreams.

            Its not hey give me the money I am poor and you’re rich I deserve you’re money. thats little more than rotten road apples that stink like 10 day old Gumbo.

          • Doc Sarvis

            And so in many states education is going to take a BIG hit in funding so we will not even “teach a man to fish”. Wonderful!

          • TIME

            The DOE has no business in the states business. The DOE has created the bloody mess we have.

            Be that as it may, Buda said, don’t cry on both sides of the road with same tears. In life’s strugle there is no path stronger than the path one cuts themselfs. Learn to overcome adversity with both strong will and faith so as to never be a servant to man nor fear beast.

          • 45caliber

            Doc:

            You are right – Jesus wanted the poor helped. But IF YOU NOTICED, He didn’t say we need to pay the government to take care of them. He said WE needed to do it directly.

            So … if you want to help them because Jesus says so, go find some and help them. But don’t demand that everyone give extra money to the government to help them.

            As one man pointed out years ago, if you took the money given to the Welfare Department and split it among everyone making less than the poverty level, there would be no one below the poverty level. But roughly 95% of that money is spent by the government on themselves before any of it gets to those one welfare.

            So put up – or shut up.

          • Don

            Doc, i think it is said that, God helps those that helps themselves.

      • TIME

        doc, And is it not the very politicians that Promise the world on a string that are the root of this problem?

      • eddie47d

        Time: Jesus gave 5,000 loaves/fishes to those who came to hear him preach. He didn’t charge them anything for this good deed.I know I’ll catch heck for saying this but either Jesus cared for the poor or those 5,000 Loaves/fishes were a bribe to bring these people over to his way of thinking. Some of you use that same analogy when the government “gives” to the poor. You say this bribe makes them perpetually lazy and servants to the Democrats. I do agree with the jest of your comments that a man must depend on himself and not so much on others.

        • ValDM

          eddie,
          Christ did not steal from one to deliver to the other. HUGE difference.

        • TIME

          Eddie, take Jesus out of the picture for just one moment.

          When people landed here in Plymouth Habor there were no benifits given out, no one just sat around drinking beer and watching the telie, or hanging out doing nothing, even the sick worked.
          Each person had to work to make it the whole gig work.
          Had they just sat back and let others do the work, it would have been James Town all over again, in case you don’t recall how well that didn’t work out read about it.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Good analogy. Actually, they got quite a lot of help from the natives in the area – a hand out you could say.

          • independant thinker

            Doc, any help they got from the native population was given freely by the Indians not coerced or taken by “force” from them by some government agency to support the pilgrams.

          • Jovianus

            IT…that’s not what the Indians say …. nor the diaries of some of those at Plymouth …

          • S.C.Murf

            Time that is exactly the problem we have let them take Jesus out of our life, and the void has been filled with the evilness that is called our government. God said Before you were in the womb, I knew you. Man is playing god, and America will fall and fall hard. There is no turning it around, all of this was foretold many years ago and it doesn’t matter if you are Republican or Democrat. This entire earth is being led by satan himself, and for those of you who don’t believe it will have a rude awaking one of these days. Jesus said to look to the heavens because your time draws near

            up the hill
            airborne

        • eggsbenedict

          eddie47d:

          I liked your comment about the fishes and loaves. Jesus did give freely and they listened to his message. However on another occasion he stated that the people follwed him for the fishes and loaves not because of what he was saying. The old addage about giving a man a fish one day and he will be back for another the next is appropriate. However, if you teach him how to fish, he can make a living and feed himself and his family and maybe others if he is so chooses. The only thing that God gave Adam and Eve when they ask to leave the garden was clothes on their backs. And he told them by the sweat of their brow were they to earn their keep.

          I believe in charity and I also believe that when people are in need that some one will come to their rescue. However, when the government forces it upon the people in the form of taxation it is resented and the government is wrong. The role and duties of our government is enumerated in the Constitution. It is still applicable to today and if the government would follw it, we would be in the position that we are in over the deficit and the budget.

      • 45caliber

        A very small amount, huh? Well, I’d say that this statement was right, but only because of how you said it. The majority of the money goes to the government to “administer” the program. Now if we cut them out of the picture just how well off would the people who need it be …?

      • marvin

        Doc Sarvis
        is that like the 600 million gave to illegals on welfare in la county california in 11 month of 2010 i guess that is just a fluk,don,t happen any other state or county

    • 45caliber

      What gets me is the money that they give to the welfare people cannot be touched – but the money that people are forced to pay SS for their retirement (and that is the reason given for it) should not be paid out.

      What the real problem is that is causing SS to go broke is that the government takes most of it and spends it elsewhere. They pay the retired people with what is left over so they can keep the money coming in.

      • independant thinker

        If SS had been handled correctly the system would be awash in money and there would be no worries about how the declining base paying in would cover future expenses.

        • 45caliber

          Exactly.

          • Kathleen

            I think we’re on a tiny bit of the wrong path. Does anyone know what Congresspeople receive when they retire? I had heard it was 100% of their compensation – I Must Say that I’m not sure if that is truth or folklore but you can bet it’s a lot more than any of us mere mortals will earn in our retirement. And then there’s their healthcare package which I also believe is pretty high end. If Congress wants to take a look at Entitlements, I’m all for it, but they need to clean their own house first, wouldn’t you say?

          • independant thinker

            Kathleen………….Medicare and especially SS are not entitlements. We have paid into both and expect to have that returned to us with interest.

  • s c

    Since some people are determined to cater to the so-called downtrodden, let THEM pay for the privilege. If they’re convinced that is the only way to help others, then let them shoulder the ENTIRE cost of that burden. If they’re convinced that someone has to have protected status, then let it be so, BUT let them also make that burden real.
    America is NOT obligated to “invest” in misery. We are NOT obligated to see to it that we “invest” in their future. Let financial gurus like Soros foot the bill. Buffet, Gates, Soros and every progressive can take credit for making social engineering a reality, BUT let THEM foot the ENTIRE bill for that utopia.
    We would be insane to “invest” in a utopia. Nowhere is the word utopia found in the Constitution. NO ONE can find that word. Ergo, let those who want it PAY for it.

    • 45caliber

      I agree with you.

    • eddie47d

      Go live your “kingly” life behind those castle walls and pretend that others don’t exist.That’s been done many times throughout the centuries. Where the serfs built those castles but never got to benefit from the fruits of their labors.The wealthy elites enjoyed their luxury at the expense of the working poor even back then. Funny how some things never change and the wealthy even take a bigger bite out of the labors of those below them. Back in those days of castles the Kings were also the government. So you may have that part right but it is still no excuse for anyone to ridicule “the lesser among us”.

      • ValDM

        eddie,
        As usual you have it all wrong. It is not the gov’t.’s job to take from me and give to anyone else. I have many charity programs I contribute to, and don’t live a “kingly” life. Do you have someone that needs your help? Are you helping them? Or are you just taking for granted that what is taken from you is used appropriately?? If you feel so strongly about helping someone, by all means, feel free to help them on your own, like I do.

        • eddie47d

          I was only going after SC’s arrogant attitude so I know I didn’t get it wrong.I very well agree it is better to give freely at least to traditional charity organizations. When it comes to homelessness I think it is better for government to step in and keep them from dying under the bridges. 17% of those are Veterans.

          • 45caliber

            eddie:

            The government doesn’t stop them “from dying under bridges”. In fact, the gov will not help anyone like that because they don’t have a permanent address. At most they will stop and tell them to go somewhere else.

            The homeless are almost entirely homeless by their own choice. Many have mental problems that used to get them sent to hospitals for treatment and care. The feds stopped that. Those who are homeless and admit needing help go to homeless shelters. I don’t know where you are but none of those in this area are set up by the government. So the argument you were trying to use is wrong.

          • eddie47d

            Our Mission was built with city funds.Then run with private donations.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            yeah, let the government help those vets. Like Clintoon did??? Walter Reed has never been in worse shape than during Clintoons term!! There was a quadraplegic in Brecksville during that time that almost starved because the interns would just bring his meals in and expect him to eat. The service there was cut to bare bones and it stunk!!! Again I say thanks but NO THANKS!!!!

      • S.C.Murf

        give a man a million and tomorrow the greed will drive him to want 2 million

  • Bruce D.

    Anything short of $100 million in cuts would seem like a betrayal. Republicans need to stick to their promise. Doc can leave his head up anything he wants, but no more buying votes with taxpayer money. It is just not acceptable.

    • RS

      100 Billion seems like a betrayal to me. 100 Billion out of 1.7 trillion budget the president’s budget proposed. The amount is so minuscule, they have done nothing to help.

      • 45caliber

        It’s only a 5.8% cut. I’d prefer a 50% cut.

        • independant thinker

          I too would prefer more but it is a starting place. Keep after them and demand more cuts next year and the next.

          • Dan az

            Obama said he also wants to work with Republicans to find common ground on government spending for the remainder of this fiscal year and to avoid a government shutdown. Stopping the basic functions of government could damage the economic recovery, he said.

            “I think it is important to make sure that we don’t try to make a series of symbolic cuts this year that could endanger the recovery,” he said. Obama said cutting too deeply in Washington could prompt thousands of layoffs in state and local governments, which would hurt the economy.

          • Dan az

            So the last thing that he wants is to cut government if at all!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            thinker,
            this is all leading up to a request for a raise in the debt ceiling!!! Watch and see!

          • independant thinker

            It would not suprise me at all Joe H but we still have to keep after them to keep cutting and see to it that the rest of the population does not become complacent with the little steps they are taking that get big headlines like it was a total reversal of past government policy.

      • Bruce D.

        100 billion should not be considered a betrayal if that is the promise they gave before people voted for them. A betrayal would be doing something different than what was promised before elected. Few would be voted back into office if they cut so much it collapse the economy. The economy may collapse anyway with our trade imbalance to China, adding 80,000 new government jobs, the price of gasoline with little chance of drilling for oil here, and an administration who seems intent on raising taxes and destroying business. Don’t forget there are a lot of people out there like Doc and Eddie who would like to see the money supply expanded until there is a collapse also. They vote democrat and they were able to retain the Senate with the promise to expand the money supply, not cut it. People here do not necessarily have the votes they think they do but maybe that will change in the future. It is not even a sure thing Obama is leaving office in 2012. If there is job growth between now and 2012 he is likely to stay. He is doing very well in the polls and we all know what he thinks when it comes to spending money and expanding government. Libertarians claim to vote Libertarian so their vote only counts when Libertarians get elected which is a rarity. Even Republicans and Libertarians combined to make the kind of changes some people on this site would like is not enough and even they do not agree on a lot of things. Without the independents voters which do vote democrat as seen with Harry Reid in Nevada and Manchin in W. Virginia there will be no change at all until there is a total collapse as Robert Ringer suggested on his post last week. If that happens that would be more than most people bargained for except for the survivalists on this site and elsewhere with supplies of food for up to three years.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Bruce,
          you are very right when you say that there are people out there supporting the collaps. The thing is, I can’t understand why!!! They act like it isn’t going to affect them or not as much!! The crazy thing is that if they are looking for a handout, it’s going to effect them just as much, if not more!!!

          • Bruce D.

            I think borrowing money is similar to drug abuse for some. They cannot stop because they have created a mental dependency on it. When they have nothing left and cannot borrow any more money from friends and family they stop. Nothing short of that. Eddie, Doc, and Joviaus have a lust for money they did not earn. People who earn a lot of money are bad people or filthy for not giving it away to them and others. It is a liberal sickness created by lust and greed for money they did not earn.

          • Dan az

            My thoughts exactly Joe!

  • w mary truman

    no corporate tax if operating in the USA; corporate tax when operating overseas. get America back on her feet by building this country first, by employing Americans first, by protecting Americans first.

    • Bruce D.

      That is a good a idea w mary. That would put people back to work fast. Those making a profit would still have to pay income tax as individuals. Corporations from all over the world would come here. They probably would flock here is records numbers if the corporate rate was dropped to 12%.

      • Jovianus

        Read the WSJ or Bloomberg of late? Corporate America is awash with cash. Somehow seeing them rush to add jobs is not in the news.

        • Bruce D.

          People are not investing because the left are antagonistic to business. It is likely business will not come back until Obama is gone and a safe environment for investing is created in this country. The left is always talking about taking other peoples money if they can get there hands on it. No one is going to invest the money they have until they are fairly sure they are not going to lose what they already have. Even democrat businessmen which probably equal that of republicans do not want to hire someone if it will cause them to lose money. If there is one thing Obama should have done is taken away the incentive to invest overseas. Instead he has give business more reason to leave.

    • ValDM

      Not quite so. President Kennedy signed a bill regarding corps. operating overseas. Their taxes are paid to their host country. They aren’t required to pay taxes on their overseas profits.

      • ValDM

        I should have read : they aren’t re

        • ValDM

          Well it cut me off again. Corporations that earn profits from overseas, pay taxes on those particular profits to the host country. What ever profits they make in the U.S. is supposed to have taxes paid on it here. But you can bet your last dime, that ALL their profits will be made outside the U.S.

    • 45caliber

      Some years ago Sweden had a program (might still have) that gave companies no tax on up to 1/4 of their profits IF that money was reinvested in expansions that hired more people. It provided more jobs for the school graduates and the income tax the workers paid more than covered the lost tax from the company.

      I suggeste it to a Congressman at the time – Jim Guy Tucker (last I heard he was in prison). He wrote back to tell me that 1) the government wasn’t supposed to help companies expand, 2) that they would take care of the youth on welfare if they couldn’t find a job, and 3) they needed the tax money now, not when the new employees would pay it.

      • independant thinker

        I think Jim Guy is dead now have to look it up for sure but I think he died of liver cancer.

        • independant thinker

          I looked it up and Jim Guy is still alive. He is out of prison due to his health problems. He has had a liver transplant.

  • LES

    How about all the welfare money that goes to illegal drugs. Uncle Sam is probably the largest purchaser of illegal drugs in the country thru the welfare programs. Of course it would not be politically correct to do a study to determine how wide spread this problem in.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I don’t know how you come to that conclusion, especially with all that Rush Limbaugh has purchased over the years. As you point out, there is no data to support your alligation.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Doc… Bringing Rush up was a low blow! But, since you did, Rush never used welfare money to pay for his drugs. So you have no point.

        • eddie47d

          Robin; Bringing up Rush who is making $400 million a year is truly someone who didn’t earn his wealth.When you see poor people working harder than this mega mouth then you know our monetary system is screwed up. Makes you want to fight even harder against these wealthy elites.

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            eddie47d… Do the likes of Michael Moore and others like him bring about the same reaction from you? Of if they are liberal they don’t count?

          • eddie47d

            I don’t have much respect for talking heads (Olbermann) who get big bucks for running their traps. I put them all in the same category if that makes you feel better. Now Michael Moore actually has to go out and produce something to get his money whether you agree with his movies or not.Maybe he gets paid too much for the type of movies he does. His overhead can’t be too high and Rush’s overhead has got to be even less.

          • Dan az

            Eddie do you mean these people?
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      • barbm

        i can run your happy behind downtown and show you the government clinics set up to give free methadone to heroin addicts. the govt gives it to them, but we pay for it. and most of the women are pregnant. if you aren’t familiar with methadone, let me tell you this. it’s waaaaaaaaaaaay more addictive than heroin so harder to kick. and it’s going into all those little fetuses so they can be born addicted.

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Virginia

        Get off Rush! They were prescriptions drugs. How many democrats have been at Betty Ford rehab? Old news! Stick to the current issues! We have a crisis in America, come up with constructive ideas. LIKE GETTING RID OF OBUMMER!

        • eddie47d

          Rush is still working his mouth and influencing how Americans think and big time. So that makes him relevant in every conversation.The same thing could have been said about Olbermann and many others who influence how we think. If they want to make big money telling others how to feel then they should be able to handle folks getting into their personal lives.

          • Bruce D.

            Actually Olbermann has very little influence. MSNBC would have done everything in their power to retain him if he did. He was way over paid for sure and now on some 10th rate show only leftest have even heard about. On the other hand Rush earns every cent he gets. He does not need handouts as does NPR to earn a living.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Robin, my point is you can’t say most of the illegal drugs were purchased by the poor or the rich because the rich buy plenty of illegal drugs AND there is no data (that I am aware of) to support the argument that most are purchased by the poor.

    • 45caliber

      LES, Despite Doc’s stupidity on drug use, the welfare people definately buy them. I would like to see a requirement that before those on welfare can receive a check each month, they have to pass a drug test. It would cut the welfare rolls by about 80%.

      • barbm

        that’s up to the state to pass a bill requiring drug testing for welfare. texas is working on one as we type.

        • 45caliber

          And I’ve told my local rep I want it passed too.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          barbm,
          Ohio as well!!! JUST DO IT!!!!!

  • Raggs

    The obama administration is setting us up for failure!

    • 45caliber

      What gets me is that they borrow the money – then they require US to pay it back by giving it to them rather than directly to the one they borrowed the money from.

      That would sort of be like me borrowing money, requiring my parents to pay it back, but also require them to give me the money instead of the bank I borrowed it from. Then, if I spend it instead of paying off the bank, they still owe the bank more money while I go merrily on my way.

      • Raggs

        Yeah in other words MAD money.

    • eddie47d

      Raggs; That has been said about every President even Reagan.

  • Nail Buster

    It seems That we all have forgotten when it comes to the the Einstines of spends math : two plus two equils Forty Two so they can spent EIGHTY FOUR because old Joe sin pack and all of us unwashed out here in fly over country are going to PAY the bills anyway. Remember when it was only thousands, then millions, then billions and now it is TRILLIONS WITH THE INTEREST now somewhere between one to four trillion or billion a DAY.

  • jopa

    One area where we could cut social security is in our state and federal prison systems.There have been estimates of costs around $90 thousand per year per prisoner.Yet many of these prisoners are collecting social security checks in prison to buy drugs candy and even Kentucky fried chicken.I do know people that have delivered KFC to the Graterford prison in Pennsylvania to the lifers club.I think they should turn over their government checks to pay for their room, board, cost of being guarded, and pay restitution to their victims first.Just a thought.

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Virginia

      This is a great idea! My mom had to turn her social security check in when she was in a retirement home to help pay her way. She recently passed away. Why do criminals get priviledged treatment?

    • 45caliber

      But if the government goes after them, it will mean that a lot of their family members (now on Welfare) would be upset. Further, why are they getting Pell grants for education? It was supposed to be going to poor college students. Instead, the prisoners get it given to their private spending accounts while they pass one class at a time to keep it coming.

      jopa, if the prison system in your state is allowing the prisoners to send out for food, then it seriously needs to be revised. It would be too easy to bring in other things as well … like drugs, weapons, and money. Texas prison system allows nothing in like that and are stingy (rightly so) for things like candy bars they can buy from the internal supply store. All food is made and served on site with the exception of raman noodles they can buy. And they get exactly the same menu every month. No changes.

      • ValDM

        Back in the day when I went to college, ALL students were offered Pell Grants. Didn’t matter how much money you had to pay or not pay.

        • 45caliber

          Not anymore.

  • s c

    Let’s see. What’s wrong with this picure? ‘Republicans’ don’t know the difference between billions and trillions. Could it be that ‘Republicans’ have hardcore progressives in their midst?
    If they don’t know the difference between billions and trillions, then I have to conclude that
    they have no use for common sense, and it will be a frosty day in hades when those pathetic yahoos finally decide to do things RIGHT. Once again, people, we have been “had.”

  • Rich

    Doc,
    Apparently facts are not your strong suit. Since you want things documemted, show me where there is a proposed tax break for the rich in any upcoming or recently passed legislation, and when was Rush buying illegal drugs? The biggest financial breaks being awarded in Washington are by HHS handing out exemptions from Health Care Law compliance to the unions and companiers that supported Obama.
    There’s an old expression that the only thing worse than people thinking you’re dumb is opening your mouth and removing all doubt. Obviously you’ve never heard it before.

  • barbm

    there’s just so much waste in our government from the bottom to the top. for instance, our school district has a superintendent who gets (almost typed earns) $270,000 annually. he has 7 assistant superintendents and 3 deputy supers. 11 people to do the job that one should be able to do if he’s really working. if he truly needs help, fire 5, change the title on the rest, and lower the salary commensurate with the new titles. that would save about 3/4 million dollars for a lot of teachers’ jobs. somebody should go into every department and redo things to eliminate all that waste.

    • 45caliber

      I know what you mean. Why pay them so much? Why so much administration? The school I went to had a principal, a secretary, half a dozen cooks and two or three janitors. Above him was a superintendent – only. He did the purchasing for the school, buying from the lowest bidder. Gradeschool was the same. Teachers outnumbered them about three to one.

      Now its the other way around. Why does it take so many? I suspect because the rest simply won’t do the job they are supposed to be doing. So fire them. Our local school has a large office building with at least fifty people there that does nothing for the students.

      • independant thinker

        ” Why does it take so many?”

        Part of the reason for more administration staff is insuring “compliance with government (especialy federal) programs and mandates”. Don’t know how much is due to that but do know some is.

  • http://com i41

    Democraps have always convoulted every thing they do. I see Goverment Motors is handing out bonuses to every jackass in the union organization. The union is worried about losing workers. The stocks aren’t even back up, to pay us taxpayers back. Union pays noyhing back just put money on another credit card. Another cut, send the muslim goat abusers and all their pedophile, rug scrubbers back to where they came from. Like all the Palistine terrorists, we have in our country, Onumnutts shipped over here, and only God knows where those pukes are. Cut out out the free money given to LaRaza, The ugly Muslims Looking for Nannies, and all the other crap minority victunology organization. Affermative Action and the Dept of Education and Energy alone would save over 100 billion. Since the welfare rats, both the landowners and oreo creaters, have lived off of taxpayers for decades doing nothing depending on us citizens to foot the bill. Put some reonsablity on the other half of the equation or, knock the nuts out of the sires, if they will not pay the freight on their offspring! I notice the Congress or the Congress isn’t taling any cuts on salary or benefits, Cut them by 35%, staffs by 50%, tax all lobbyist who usually are defeated Congress slubs at 95% like they want to on all business and citizens. Doc, who gives a rats rear if Rush, Joe Blow has bought this or that, they did it by working at something. Not using governemnt to make mandates for them to create a crap thing as global warming, to get rich and put the screws on every one else. We all know some of your other democrap crooks idoils like Geithner, Daschle, Pangel, Waters Pelousy, just to mention a few, all crimminals of the elit Soros Socialist Party. A common triat of all marxist/communists. Always worried what someone else is buying or earning, unless they are part of the government scum inner circle. Didn’t here a peep when Geithner walked out with 21 million for a few months”work” on WallStreet when things were rolling up like thong being dropped. The useless stimulass programs sure didn’t creat any new jobs never will, remember shovel ready jobs, yes it was shovel ready, shoveling s–t to the taxpayers.

  • http://com i41

    jopa, this is something I surewill agree with you on. Put these scrots out growning their own food and in chain gangs cleaning out road ditches on our federal highways, pick up trash, tear down, salvage,clean up, destroyed neightbor hoods. Put them in 2 man crews and if they test positive for drugs, go 3 man and so on till the idoits get it through their heads. Bigger the number the easier to frog march, with orders if a bunch wants to creat problems and to run shoot to kill.

  • 45caliber

    Original Idea (At least for Congress) … Let’s really go all out and cut enough from the budget to balance it against our government income so no new borrowing has to be done. Perhaps we should go even further and cut enough to pay off some of those debts. Wow! From everything both parties have said, it’s an idea neither has considered.

  • marvin

    people your missing the boat tell we stop importing over 1 million of the best and brightest ever year,kind of like saying we the american are stuped or to laze to work,,so we got to import worker,close are southern border and deport yes deport all illegals and their children,shut down the un ,fire obama and clinton things will not change but the list is not complete,just a few for starts wonder where the money that the goverment said they made off of tarp is,anyone have a idea

  • Nail Buster

    on the illegals. Do not allow their labor to be deducted as an expense by the IRS ( I Represent satan). Wonder how long they would keep their job? and if was deducted charge that gross amount as tax against the employer. Dem OR Rep will do NOTHING about the imegration problem. both have proven that for MANY years. Just like the anchor babies, this is the way it should be? How about a town in South Texas with 4000 population and 14 grade schools, on the border with Mexico. as for the fence, go over-tunnel under-go to where their is no fence!

  • http://Persoanllibertydigest Jim

    Our budget is complex subject and their are few simple cuts– But the first cut would be illegal immigrant education, next their Health care, the only free thing to them would be a ride home and a chip implanted in them to track them if they come back — Yes its true the Republicans are still favor Big Business too much and the Democrats are favor handouts way to much — The only real truth here is our country is going to collapses under the pressure of the Debt no doubt about it — President Obama has to go, he’s living in a unrealistic world. Living with-in our means we spend no more than we take in, and since we are in debt, that means, we have even less to spend and we have a plan to pay off our debt–

  • TIME

    For any of you who still think that the RebO are any better than the DemO’s.
    I just spoke with a few friends who are working on a DEFUNDING of Barry care, now keep in mind that the REBO now hold control of doing just that.
    YET – They have refused to even take it under advisment what Pete King has written out to completely defund Barry Care. If you have a Congress person who’s a REPO get off you’re fat ass’s and Call them and tell them you’re not happy with this turn of events.

    Will you all please wake up most all Congress and Senate person have the same goal in mind for you.
    YOU’RE nothing to the political types. You mean nothing at all, other than you aid them in getting all the “PERKS of any CON ARTIST.”

    The list of true Congress and Senate people that have the goodwill of the people of this country in mind is so small you can almost count them on your fingers and toes! Thats bloody sad.

    • TIME

      Oh and cuts could be made to the tune of over $500 Billion dollars and not even make a dent. So really is $100 Billion doing anything at all, is it not like tossing crap in the sky, it still rains crap.

      An by the way just for the record again to “RE EDUCATE” you all. Social Security is NOT an Entitlement, – YOU paid in to it, thus its YOU’RE MONEY.

      {{Welfair is an ENTITLEMENT.}} they have paid nothing into anything and yet get as much as $165K per year, many of these scams are outright crazy that go on in this venue alone.

      Medicade per year is humdreds of Billions, thats goes to people who have paid in NOTHING ever, I know of no less than 4 people who have had hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of health care and never paid a penny in tax.

      Giving Bribes to countries that hate us, is an ENTITLEMENT.
      How about cutting all forgin aid that would total how many hundreds of BILLIONS??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

      • TIME

        Oh, I forgot to make note that them special RebO passed the Patriot act extention late last night too.
        You just gotta love these special SOB’S they really stand for whats right, and whats good for the United States.

        Please people just due to the R it fails to make them ones who stand for anything differant than the ones with a D.
        They are in fact one in the same. WILL YOU ALL WAKE UP!!!!

        • 45caliber

          Many of us have. If you notice we don’t always blame the Democrats unless it is the Democrats who are screwing something up. We blame the politicians – of both parties. We are trying to replace them too – even the R’s.

    • 45caliber

      You can almost count them on your fingers and toes? You have a lot more faith in them than I do! I’m not sure I can count them on the fingers of one hand!

  • Buddy

    What’s this about “non-security spending cuts”?

    The so-called “security” expenditures are making the nation less secure not more secure. Is the military/industrial complex the problem? Or is foreign aid the problem? Or are people who just use the money for their own election the problem?

    Or is it all of the above who can’t add up income and subtract outgo to see the overload is killing the Union?

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Doc Sarvis,
    Your either dirt poor and wish to live like the guy that makes
    around 35,000 a year,, who goes out and works his ass off, while you set home doing nothing ,hopping Obama will give you free rent,free
    health care,free food stamps and some free Obama bucks.Now the poor guy who makes 35,000 a year dosen`t get all these freebies,he has to pay for them.Doc, do you know why he doesn`t get all these freebies?
    It`s because he is to dam proud to take handouts. He is proud when that pay check he receives every Friday,small as it is.He dosen`t
    set around bitching about the guy that makes 50,60, 70, 80 thousand
    a year,because he knows if he works hard and keeps his nose clean,
    he too,will be one of those making 50k or better.he also,might be one of those rich guys you keep talking about.At any rate, he won`t
    be one of those lazy asses setting around bitching about how poor he is and how much the rich owe him.After all the rich did gave him a job.He works and now is one of the rich that hands out the jobs,While you
    are still depending on goverment handouts.All in 10yrs time.I know because that person is me.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Time,
    You are so right. You seam to have gotten it.

  • Bert Cundle

    If I’m $1,000.00 in Debt. & My income is $100.00 / Week… & Bills @ $150.00 / week…I Can’t pay $0.02 / Month with 14% interest, & Borrow More to pay the interest, for any success, to fixing my problem! Government too.!

  • Raggs

    Your only defence against the so called “patriot act” is a loaded weapon.

  • DaveH

    Wow! The cuts are up to 100 Billion? A whopping 3% of the budget! Holy Budget Cutters, Batman, that’s huge! NOT!
    Yes Sir, the Tea Party Republicans are really going to town. Only it’s the wrong town.

    • independant thinker

      DaveH………Was it enough, no, but ya gotta start somewhere. We have to keep an their a$$ and make them cut that much or more next year and the next and the next until we have a true surplus in the annual budget that can be used to pay down the national debt.

  • Upsidedown

    45 & Jarv,
    Both parties have let the people down. Nute and the boys introduced into law NAFTA and preferred trade status for China. Billy the man Clinton signed into law. Brush did not want to kick out the illegals or stop them-buddys need chip labor. The crying libs buy votes that is why the stimulas keeps going up. Neither party controls the Fed. We’re a %@$#!^ mess.

  • Bert Cundle

    O’Bomba Just Reported His $ saving Reduction in DEFENSE Funds…
    We don’t have enough DEFENSE N O W … We NEED A DEFENSE FROM HIM!!!

  • Bert Cundle

    The ENDING OF SEGRAGATION IS THE BEGING OF THE DOWN FALL OF UNITED STATES!!! INTAGRATION “IS NOT” A CIVIL RIGHT!!! IT’S AN INVASION OF RIGHTS!!!

  • WayneT

    Here is some disturbing stats which has occurred between 2009 & 2011. Liberals, this has happened under your President, Nobama’s watch. Please take notice. This is what we folks with common sense have been telling you Liberals all along, but your just too stupid to get it. Nobama is ruining our country. The first number is what the price was in 2009, and the 2nd number reflects todays price. The 3rd number is the percntage of change in the incease over the last 2 years. The 4th is the source where this information had came from. Now Liberals, can you tell me that we are better off today than we were just two years ago? I don’t think so.

    Revelation of some very interesting numbers: CHANGE

    Two years ago today, Barack Obama was inaugurated as president of the United States . Are you better off today than you were two years ago? Numbers don’t lie, and here are the data on the impact he has had on the lives of Americans:

    January 2009
    TODAY
    % chg
    Source

    Avg. retail price/gallon gas in U.S.
    $1.83 Price in 2009
    $3.104 Price in 2011
    69.6% Change in pecent
    1 See source below

    Crude oil, European Brent (barrel)
    $43.48 Price in 2009
    $99.02 Price in 2011
    127.7% Percentage increase
    2 See sourcd below

    Crude oil, West TX Inter. (barrel)
    $38.74 Price in 2009
    $91.38 Price in 2011
    135.9% Percntage increase
    2 See sourc below

    Gold: London (per troy oz.)
    $853.25 Price in 2009
    $1,369.50 Price in 2011
    60.5% Percentage increase
    2

    Corn, No.2 yellow, Central IL
    $3.56 Price in 2009
    $6.33 Price in 2011
    78.1% Percentage increase
    2 See sourc below

    Soybeans, No. 1 yellow, IL
    $9.66 Price in 2009
    $13.75 Price in 2011
    42.3% Percent increase
    2 See source below

    Sugar, cane, raw, world, lb. fob
    $13.37 Price in 2009
    $35.39 Price in 2011
    164.7% Percent increase
    2 See sourc below

    Unemployment rate, non-farm, overall
    7.6% Unemployment in 2009
    9.4% Unmployment in 211
    23.7% Percent increase
    3 See source below

    Unemployment rate, blacks
    12.6% Unmployment for blacks in 2009
    15.8% Unemployment for black in 2011
    25.4% Percent change
    3 See source below

    Number of unemployed
    11,616,000 Number of unemplyed in 2009
    14,485,000 Number of unemployed in 2011
    24.7% Percent change
    3 See source below

    Number of fed. employees, ex. military (curr = 12/10 prelim)
    2,779,000 Number of Federal Employees in 2009
    2,840,000 Number of Federal Employees in 2011
    2.2% Percent change
    3 See source below

    Real median household income (2008 v 2009)
    $50,112 Medium household income in 2009
    $49,777 Medium hosehold income in 2011
    -0.7% Percent change
    4 See source below

    Number of food stamp recipients (curr = 10/10)
    31,983,716 Number of food stamps recipients in 2009
    43,200,878 Number of food stamps recipients in 2011
    35.1% Percent change
    5 See source below

    Number of unemployment benefit recipients (curr = 12/10)
    7,526,598 (2009)
    9,193,838 (2011)
    22.2% (percent change)
    6 Source

    Number of long-term unemployed
    2,600,000 (2009)
    6,400,000 (2011)
    146.2% (percent change)
    3 See source below

    Poverty rate, individuals (2008 v 2009)
    13.2% (2009)
    14.3% (2011)
    8.3% (Percent change)
    4 See source below

    People in poverty in U.S. (2008 v 2009)
    39,800,000 (2009)
    43,600,000 (2011)
    9.5% Percent change
    4 Source

    U.S. rank in Economic Freedom World Rankings
    5 (2009
    9 (2011)
    n/a
    10 See source below

    Present Situation Index (curr = 12/10)
    29.9 (2009)
    23.5 (2011)
    -21.4% Percent change
    11 See source below

    Failed banks (curr = 2010 + 2011 to date)
    140 (2009)
    164 (2011)
    17.1% (Percent change)
    12 See source below

    U.S. dollar versus Japanese yen exchange rate
    89.76 (2009)
    82.03 (2011)
    -8.6% Percent change
    2 See sourcd below

    U.S. money supply, M1, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim)
    1,575.1 (2009)
    1,865.7 (2011)
    18.4% (percent change)
    13 See source below

    U.S. money supply, M2, in billions (curr = 12/10 prelim)
    8,310.9 (2009)
    8,852.3 (2011)
    6.5% Percent change
    13 See source below

    National debt, in trillions
    $10.627 (2009)
    $14.052 (2011)
    32.2% (Percent change)
    14 See source below

    Just take this last item: In the last two years we have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast

    as during the rest of our entire nation’s history. Over 27 times as fast! Metaphorically, speaking, if you are driving

    n the right lane doing 65 MPH and a car rockets past you in the left lane 27 times faster . . . it would be doing

    1,755 MPH! This is a disaster!

    Sources:

    (1) U.S. Energy Information Administration; (2) Wall Street Journal; (3) Bureau of Labor Statistics; (4) Census Bureau;

    (5) USDA; (6) U.S. Dept. of Labor; (7) FHFA; (8) Standard & Poor’s/Case-Shiller; (9) RealtyTrac; (10) Heritage

    Foundation and WSJ; (11) The Conference Board; (12) FDIC; (13) Federal Reserve; (14) U.S. Treasury

  • Michael

    Wayne T you said it all. who could argue with the truth and the facts. Great research too bad the media doesn’t talk about the facts. Too bad left wing and some in the right don’t look at the facts. All i am is me and all i want is to live FREE!!!!!!!

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