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House Republicans Pass Ill-Fated Stopgap Measure

April 11, 2011 by  

House Republicans pass ill-fated stopgap measureIn the event of a partial government shutdown, approximately 800,000 Federal employees would be furloughed, tax returns would be delayed and a host of national parks, museums and forests would suspend its operations.

On Capitol Hill, a shutdown would prompt a rendition of the blame game. With the 2012 Presidential election season starting to heat up, finger-pointing would be as commonplace as number-crunching if Republicans and Democrats can't agree on a budget.

On April 7, GOP lawmakers attempted to prevent a shutdown by passing a stopgap budget the day before the deadline. By a vote of 247 to 181, House Republicans passed a one-week measure that included $12 billion in spending cuts and Pentagon funding through Sept. 30.

However, White House officials said that the bill, if passed by the Senate, would be vetoed by President Barack Obama. Democrats have argued that temporary resolutions are no longer viable solutions despite the fact that the Federal government has operated on stopgap measures since Oct. 1, 2010.

On April 8, the last day before the deadline was set to expire, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said that "women's health" was the final holdup preventing deal between legislators. He claimed that negotiators had agreed on $38 billion in cuts to fund the remainder of the fiscal year, but an "ideological battle" over funding for Planned Parenthood has halted an agreement, according to FOX News.

A spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) told the media outlet that the largest issue blocking a resolution, as of April 8, was the total amount of spending cuts.

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  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    Harry Ried is full of it.

    • Conservative United

      And we all know what he if full of. Time to Retire DIRTY HARRY.

      • Patty

        He stole that election. ACORN pleaded guilty to voter fraud in NV. Where are the calls for a recount, recall, petition for a new election?
        http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2696952/posts

        • Jovianus

          Got any link to that voter fruad conviction you’re spouting?

          • Jana

            Duh!
            Did you follow the link she provided????

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jana,
            You’ll have to excuse Jovianus as he’s got his head up his jovialanus again!!!!

          • Patty

            Jovianus-Did you just wake up from your nap? “F” in comprehension yet again.

        • azwayne

          Lack of gonads, when will we find someone in congress, in law enforcement, that will start. Ask yourself how anyone with morals can sit in the senate with the union thug and listen or talk to, unless they are one too!! Just make sure you put out info, in 2005 REID said it was ruination of country if they raised debt limit, ODUMBO said same in 2007, Raising debt ceiling was sign of poor leadership, frame it, the only truth we’ve heard from him.

        • Stan Lee

          Patty:
          It’s Nevada, where votes are never counted, just predicted weeks in advance.

  • guest

    The Republicans are wimps..(RINOs)

    • Conservative United

      This was a perfect opportunity to slam Dirty Harry and the Illegal in the White House, and the rest of the liberals, by showing some real courage. As usual the RINO’S compromised everything to save their own hides.

      • Patty

        Their hides are not saved. Some are actively seeking their replacement in the next 2012 election.

  • bsfurg

    in the coming weeks I hope to heck that the rebublicans will be sronger than they were last week…. call Boehner and tell him he has to st as crooked as obama if he wants to win.. he cant give on to any thing or no one will be getting any money..his no. is phone..202 225 6205 its scary that obama could have the upper hand and win so he can destroy more of the USA

    • Edward Chandler

      Boehner let the American people down,he lied and broke the promise he made to us. I wonder why he even negotiated with them. They did all their dirty work behind closed doors

      • Patty

        Because the MSM was going to vilify the repubs in the media and make them out to be the bad guys, and the sheeple would have taken the bait, hook, line and sinker.

    • Jana

      I disagree that the Republicans were wimps or that they let us down. Washington is an entity all of its own.
      Realistically we all knew that this would not come easily, nor would it be accomplished in one showdown.
      This was just a start. This was only the first battle.
      The House at this time can pass any thing they want, but the Senate is still Democratically controlled. What good would it have been if the House would pass something and the Senate would not pass it too? It wouldn’t accomplish one thing. Boehner was wise in what and how he did it. I’m proud of him. He was in meeting with Obama, Biden and Reid, but he still stood his ground.
      As I said this was the FIRST battle, there are more to come. We need to make our voices heard to our Congressmen and women.

      • Patty

        Jana – But will they listen? Some times I really wonder…

        • Jana

          Patty,
          I know what you mean. We do know some of our newer members of Congress are listening and we need to keep encouraging them as well as getting in touch with our own Congress persons as well as our Senators.
          I saw on TV the other day a man asking his Congressman what he was doing home and not still in Washington trying to fix the budget. The Congressman was rude to his constituent. A constituent is one who authorizes another to act as his agent. We are their employees, he acted like this man asking the question was his servant.
          When writing to them we are supposed to address them as Honorable. HA that is a joke. they work for us. They haven’t been acting honorable for a long time.
          So yes, I do undersstand what you are saying, but this is going to be a good hard LONG fight, and it won’t be won in one battle, so we can’t be faint hearted, we must be willing to write letters and call our reps and keep after them.
          By the way, you are very good at getting your thoughts across in the written word, and I agree with you. Keep up the good work.

          • Patty

            Thanks Jana. I just get so frustrated. Makes a person want to turn on, tune in and drop out.

      • azwayne

        Sorry don’t agree, House CONTROLS money, they submitted their bill over month, ago, that’s where they should have stayed, nothing more. Get some morals, principles, a backbone and do what’s right.

  • Doc Sarvis

    I don’t know why the Right is against women’s health. Planned Parenthood (not a big budget item in relative terms) provides cancer screenings, birth control, and STD screenings.

    • Patty

      Sarvis – No “Doc” for you. Do you realize that most doctors lean republican? Mine do. Do you realize that most do not want/like Nobamma healthcare. Do you realize that your comment about the right is against womens health is just another liberal platitude that just isn’t going to cut it anymore. I’m so surprised you didn’t include that the right is going to make grandma eat dog food, they are going to kill thousands of kids, etc., etc. Anyone who believes that crap is a totally uninformed person with no mind of their own to make an educated decision. Do you realize I am a female and I believe in womens health, do you not think that they have mothers, sisters, daughters. GET OFF THE MANTRA, it isn’t playing anymore. It is starting to sound like Debbie Boone singing “You Light Up My Life”

      • Doc Sarvis

        I would think you would want women to have cancer screenings, birth control, and STD screenings. Why wouldn’t you?

        • Bob

          Yes, and I would expect them to pay for these themselves rather than parasitize the rest of us through taxes. And the best way to avoid STDs is to get married to a good man and remain faithful. Of course that would not occur to a lieberal such as yourself.

          • David Roberts

            Thank you Bob, for the common sense. Great Reply.

          • Doc Sarvis

            There you go again, a conservative jumping to conclusions. I am a married and faithful individual and have NEVER had an STD.

          • Lastmanstanding

            I’m with you also. Those who choose to ignore personal responsibility will soon have to answer to “natural procession.”

          • Patty

            Sarvis – “There you go again…” who mentioned you personally? Go back to school and take a comprehension course.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Patty, Bob did in his last sentence.

          • Patty

            Sarvis – AGAIN, he is talking about your liberal belief system, not you personally. Get it now? From your posts I can’t tell if you are male or female, nor do I care, so how can he direct this to you personally?

          • Carlucci

            Guess what, everybody? I just got off the phone with four Planned Parenthood “clinics” in my city. No mammograms are provided at any of them, contrary to what the head of Planned Parenthood always blathers on about when she’s on CNN, MSNBC, etc.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq0kBkUZbvQ

            The “Well Woman” exam is $130.00. If the patient is not on Medicaid, she must pay that out of her own pocket. Planned Parenthood does not accept private insurance.

          • Jana

            Mostly what planned parenthood stands for is planned parenthood which is just another term for abortions. The patient has to pay for their own abortions too from what I understand, so where does the money from our taxes go to? The Dr.’s nice hefty salaries and probably the lobbyists for planned parenthood. Abortion should not be considered a method of birth control, their are pills for that.
            Doc Sarvis’s absurd statement that conservatives are against womens health is rediculous. After all, a lot of us are women too. There are many free clinics that will help with mammograms and cancer screenings, and they are free because of donations made by the public, not forced donations. I know because I have made donations to them before, and when we were really really tight on money and the Dr. said I needed a mammogram they offered to give me one for free. I didn’t take them up on it because a mammogram is not something I enjoy all that much so I skipped it.
            Most of us conservatives put our money where our mouth is, unlike the liberals who want to put someones elses money where their mouth is.

          • azwayne

            Right on but that opinion doesn’t make media fuzzy. Get some principles, get a backbone. No money released if HOUSE don’t vote it, SHUT IT OFF.

        • http://personalliberty.com frank

          sure DOC but when they go out and have a good time i should not have to fund it!.Also the abortionist in chief has no qualms about partial birth abortion(you know a full term baby having scissors stuck in its brain and then thrown into the garbage).I know that what i am writing is tough to bear in the concience. the problem is ABORTION is the holy grail of the liberals and they are sick. Furthermore they have no CONCIENCE period!!!!!.It is about bringing the morality of this country down. Part of the obama /soros communist plan.

          • Jovianus

            Just out of curiousity…when do pap Smears, cancer screenings, exams etc come under what you’re seemingly stating as ‘birth control” ?

            The GOP brought the nation almost to a halt because of 0.0083% of the budget. Over ideological issues concerning women’s health.

            They are against womken’s health, against heating assistance to the poor, against students and education, yet scream for more tax cuts to the wealthy.

            See a pattern?

          • Patty

            Jovianus – Same old tired liberal mantra. I am a female and I take my female health issues serious enough to pay for them myself. Are you considering abortions as a form of birth control? Birth control implies not getting pregnant. Not ending a pregnancy. PP primarily deals with abortions. Have one, I don’t care, but don’t make me pay for it. PP can survive off of PRIVATE donations, so let them.

          • Jana

            Patty,
            You are right on target.

          • sylviam

            Also they go out to have a good time with a MAN and they BOTH should take care NOT TO BECOME pregnant to begin with, thaerefore NO PREGNANCY and NO NEED for PLANNED PARENTHOOD.
            Also I am a woman and taught my sons RESPONSIBILITY on that very subject. Had I were to have had girls, they too would have been taught RESPONSIBILITY in the same manner.
            In other words BE RESPONSILE FOR YOUR OWN SELF, because the GOV. is NOT.
            GOD BLESS AMERICA

        • Patty

          Sarvis – I would think that they would want to be RESPONSIBLE adults and supply that for themselves if they thought they had any personal value to themselves. I DO. Like I told my kids, don’t bring anything into this world that you personally cannot take care of, and if you need me to take you to the Dr. or pay for your birth control you are not mature enough to be engaging in adult activities and therefore could not handle the consequences. NONE of them had kids before they were ready and I guess 3 of them still are not.

          • Debbie

            I can respect those with whom I disagree, but having a budget battle (primarily) over Planned Parenthood is ridiculous and irresponsible. When I was a much younger person and did not have much money or any insurance, I was VERY grateful for Planned Parenthood as a source of basic ob-gyn care and less expensive birth control. I fail to see how declaring economic war on poor women helps our budget; and so far as I can tell, it only encourages (or forces) women to have children they clearly cannot afford, thereby further worsening our budget and economic woes.

          • Patty

            Debbie – The democrats made this about PP, not repubs. It is the same drum that they always beat. I am glad that you used PP as a resource and that you helped to pay for part of it yourself. We are broke, PP has billions in other donations from private sources and I would expect that since you used their services earlier in your life, you are now in a position to donate to them so another woman would have those same benefits you enjoyed. That is how it should work. PRIVATE donations should fund PP, not the gov’t. When you say gov’t. should…whatever, you do realize that the gov’t. has no money except what it confiscates from taxpayers, right? And that they have spent so much of other peoples money that even at 100% taxation, we may not get out of this? Can you grasp that?

          • Jovianus

            Except PP doesn’t use federal monies for abortion. That is against the current law. So what’s the reason for the stance of the GOP against PP? Women’s health and the poor are the only ones left sionce abortions are not funded by federal dollars.

          • Patty

            Jovianus – I know you are not that ignorant. What is the money going for? Heat, electric, rent? It all comes out of the same pot. That is like paying for your rent with utilities included and saying you are not paying for utilities.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Debbie: If women cannot afford to have children, then they shouldn’t have any. They should have enough common sense to know about birth control. I hate to say this but there are a number of ignorant women that keep on having babies with no thought as to the child’s well-being. It is the babies that suffer. Abortion? Force women to have babies? Egads, whatever happened to personal responsibility and common sense? I cannot imgaine killing my own child. I cannot imagine having a baby and not taking care of it. Good grief. Maybe these women should wear metal chastity belts–lock them on and throw away the key.

        • Patty

          If they are smart enough to know that they need them, they should be smart enough to know they are not FREE. Don’t tell me, this is another “right” that the left has invented. You are part of the problem for pushing that no one should have responsibility for themselves.

          • Thamera

            Not to mention that PP is not the only place women can go to get those services! Such a lie and so tiresome!!!!!

        • Doc Sarvis

          I am glad to live in a country that can provide a little bit of funding to help the reproductive health to the less fortunate. This does not always mean providing abortions.

          Abortions are a legal, though an awful reality. Even when they were illegal they were a regular occurrence and FAR more dangerous to the women and more crule to the fetus. I think we all would love to live in a world where abortion did not exist but through practically all of human history this act has occurred. The conservative Supreme Court made it the law of the land and the conservative politicians will always secretly maintain abortion because it is such a strong issue for them to fight against. If abortion was outlawed then Republicans/conservatives would have far less to campaign on.

          All of you talking about the personal responsibility of women who seek abortions should NOT forget about the irresponsible men who are just as responsible for the pregnancy but take little of the responsibility or dissappear alltogether.

          • Bob

            Doc Lieberal Talking Head: Then maybe these women should consider choosing a man for something more than providing drugs,alcohol, or a free meal. The best way to avoid being left in the lurch by some irresponsible man is to use some discernment when choosing a man. If a man doesn’t care enough about a women to marry her, he certainly shouldn’t be allowed to father her baby. I have some hints for women without discernment: 1. If a man doesn’t have a job, he can’t support your child (duh) 2. If a man is a doper or a drinker, he isn’t fit to be a father or a husband (duh again) 3. If a man abuses you he will probably abuse your child (duh a third time). Doc, most conservative women have enough intelligence to understand these things, maybe you should educate the democrat women because they apparently don’t.

          • Patty

            Sarvis – Ya right. What is so hard to understand that a person has personal responsibility? If they don’t want to get pregnant, take precautions, which PP also provides, most clinics provide condoms, free. Why should anyone be released of their own personal responsibility? Life has consequences, if you shirk your personal responsibility, you face consequences. If you cannot comprehend that you are not mature enough to be engaging in adult activities. And Sarvis, how many of those women tell a guy, it’s ok, I’m on something, just to show up pregnant. Women can be very devious, I have met them, they exist. I know women who get pregnant on purpose to trap a guy, and not even to marry. They do it for the child support and welfare. What possible excuse can you offer for them?

          • Patty

            Sarvis – So you better be out looking for a new country to move to because this WILL be defunded. Not that there are not lots of other private organizations that do the SAME thing.

          • Lastmanstanding

            Doc. You should have ended your first sentence with ,”for their vote.”

        • Patty

          They are available to me, and I have an annual exam….THAT I PAY FOR. Do I want to pay for someone elses? NO.

        • Conservative United

          Doc there are plenty of places for Cancer screenings and and other health issues. Planned “Murder” hides under what they are really about ABORTION, with all that crap.

        • juswonderin

          Doc: Do you not know that women, men & children can go to the health dept office in your county, city, state to have all those issues taken care of. I had my mammogram done thru the health dept in Illinos, Winnebabo County. They found breast cancer in the early stage & I have so much more confidence in them than I would EVER have at planned parenthood. Besides that, PP is just a FRONT for abortions, they dispense faulty condoms to unsuspecting kids & adults, they also dispense the lowest strength birth control pills to the kids that go there & many uninformed adult women. Everything that PP does, the women can find an alternative for REAL healthcare. It’s ALL ABOUT ABORTION, dear Doc! It’s been draining our budgets for too many years. Maybe a few million to you is a drop in the bucket, but to the average citizen, honey, YOU ARE SO WRONG!! Even a 1/2 million is big money to us! I’m simply appalled to see that millions are just a lower cost than billions & trillions, when there are people without jobs and NO healthcare & losing their homes & having to lean on medicaid for any kind of support. People are howling about cutting medicaid, but do you know that most of them that I see when I visit that office for help,that there are AT LEAST double more of young adults, & kids that have produced kids as a way to keep from having to work & learn how to live responsibility? It’s the same at the Social Security Office…more kids having kids. Do you also know that our government has brainwashed our kids about sexual matters; teaching them to “EXPERIMENT” & showing them how to put a condom on a banana or other object. Do you no know that most of us are shocked by the sexual content that kids are putting on the internet & other places & many times, they’re targeted for preditors? WE NEED TO GET THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF SOCIAL ISSUES, EXPECIALLY SEXUAL ISSUES OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS!! Not only would that give more money for the REAL education, but would not place our teachers in the social sexual push & forced to teach this crap to our kids. WHO ARE YOU KIDDING!!!!????

      • TIME

        Patty,

        Great post.

        So why is it that PPH, got “$67 BILLION dollars” from both the Bill & Melinda Gates as well Warren Buffet.
        Most any 401 C3′s can survive on that amount of money for many decades if invested properly.
        Yet the American public needs to pay for the running of this unit?

        Why is that again?

        Also how many of you know that PPH was STERLIZING countless hundreds of thousand of females from the 1950 – 1970′s.

        Now I ask you all again; why was that?

        • Patty

          Thanks Time -And the Gates “and as also attends the Bilderberg Group a group of elitist globalists who are calling for the New World Order.”

          Read more about Bill Gates on Reducing World Population on:
          http://www.politicolnews.com/bill-gates-population-control/?utm_source=INK&utm_medium=copy&utm_campaign=share

          • juswonderin

            HOORAH FOR PATTY!!!!! Someone has some good commonsense … & low & behold…..IT’S A WOMAN!!! HAHAHA!Now we’re getting somewhere!! The Bilderburg Group & the Boheimian Grove are only 2 of the entities that are really pulling the strings in this global war on reducing the population worldwide. Anyhow, just as Patty said about the private donations; don’t you think that Hollywood is pouring money into the death rooms of the abortion clinica? THEY WILL SURVIVE on private donations. From what I’ve read, PP spends a lot of money for lawsuits … I’m not up on that as truth, but I have read it somewhere. DOC, YOU MADE THIS STATEMENT:”Abortions are a legal, though an awful reality. Even when they were illegal they were a regular occurrence and FAR more dangerous to the women and more crule to the fetus.” How much more cruel & painful can it be to a fetus that’s getting their brains sucked out in order to kill them?? Tell me, please! Abortion has robbed many grandchildren of a loving family with grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, sisters, brothers & so on. It only benefits the selfishness of the abortee & the extended family mourns the loss of a live human being; a relative & a possiblility of a bright future! In MY humble opinion, when a female CHOOSES to have sexual relations, they’ve had their choice; but the baby has NO choice!There have been too many former PP nurses & other personnel get out of the abortion industry when they actually SEE one being performed. It’s a sad state of affairs when “killing” a viable human being just for convience! {sp?}Sadly, many parents force their daughters to get an abortion because they don’t want the responsibility! Also sadly, my granson’s girlfriend’s mom forced her to get an abortion when my grandson was very upset & didn’t want her to have one. Guess what? The 2 mommies got together & took her. The girl went on to have sexual encounters with many others & she’s been terribly heartbroken & guilt ridden. My neice had an abortion @ 16. Her parents knew nothing of it until she came home in a serious condition! She began to drink & fool around even more & was in a horrible car accident … she suffered brain damaage & she’s NEVER been the same since then. When you have had to suffer the ramifications of abortion; then I may listen to you. Until then, I hope & pray for the end of abortions being legal!! Thanks Patty for all your input! I could have had a great-grandchild!

    • http://personalliberty.com frank

      and killing!!!!

    • GregS

      Doc Sarvis says:

      “I don’t know why the Right is against women’s health.”

      The “Right” is NOT against women’s health, you twit! The “Right” is against ABORTION, which accounts for over ONE-THIRD of Planned Parenthood’s clinic income. They are the LARGEST abortion provider in the galaxy! As a taxpayer, I’m sick and tired of having abortion crammed down my throat! Furthermore, Planned Parenthood is tax-exempt, tax-funded, AND they have a powerful political action committee (PAC) to ifluence elections. Now that’s a CONFLICT OF INTEREST, if ever there was one!

      • Patty

        I am about as conservative as they come, but still pro-choice. I don’t care if someone has an abortion (I draw the line at partial-birth ones however), but I do not want to pay for it. I personally could not have one, I know that life is a miracle and not “just tissue”. That is just their justification in their mind so that it can get around their conscience. But, I am not going to make that call for someone else.

        • GregS

          Patty, the problem with your logic is that since Roe v. Wade institutionalized abortion by legalizing it, it automatically became a candidate for tax funding.

          Furthermore, if you were socially conservative, you would be pro-life. It’s not a matter of “mak[ing] that call for someone else.” It’s all about the abortionist taking a human life.

          • Patty

            I don’t think it should be a social issue what so ever. I personally am Pro-life. But, I am not dumb enough to think that they are not going to happen. They (abortions)have been around probably about as long as prostitution. So, there should be a safe way for someone to get one if they want to pay for it themselves. They are the ones who will have to live with it and face the piper when that time comes. I will let Him decide, not me. Abortions should be legal and privately funded. In the old days, the wealthy just had a DNC. That was very legal and still is.

          • Patty

            Greg S – That doesn’t make sense. You can legally drive but the gov’t. does not provide you a car, you can legally own a gun so far), but the gov’t. does not provide it, there are a lot of things that are deemed legal that the gov’t. does not and should not provide.

          • GregS

            Patty, guns and cars are mere objects. With the exception of food and clothing, the government does not usually provide objects. They are NOT services that have been institutionalized. by the government. That is what makes abortion a candidate for government funding.

          • Patty

            GregS – Not making your point here. Our federal gov’t. should be “constitutionalized”, no where does it say in our constitution that they are to provide these services. If you feel that way, turn it back to the states. Let the PEOPLE vote on if they want to pay for these services state by state.

          • GregS

            Patty, I fully agree that the federal government should be “constitutionalized,” but where in the Constitution does it say that the government is NOT to provide these services? That’s the more important question. My point is that ANY group can come along and say that a particular service is a necessary service, which should be paid for by the government, and they may even get away with sticking the taxpayer for the bill, even though most people are against it. Take, for example, ObummerCare. That law is riddled with language that mandates federal funding for abortion. Unless ObummerCare is repealed or struck down by the Supreme Court, the American taxpayer will end up paying through the nose for everybody’s abortions! And GUESS WHAT! This all started with the legalization of abortion in Roe v. Wade / Doe v. Bolton. Roe v. Wade legalized it for the first 3 months of the pregnancy, and then Doe v. Bolton, the companion case, legalized it for the remaining 6 months by expanding the word “health” to include any and all reasons. And now, because the hardcore pro-aborts contend that ALL abortions are medically necessary, abortion is considered (by them) to be healthcare, which is why it’s in ObummerCare.

            This is how the legalization of abortion, through Roe v. Wade, literally paved the way for government funding of abortion.

            I agree with your statement about letting the people vote on whether or not they want to pay for these services, but realistically, that will NEVER happen.

          • 45caliber

            Greg:

            You asked where in the Constitution does it say that the government is NOT supposed to give those services.

            It is called the 10th Amendment. It states that all things not specifically granted to the Federal Government are the business of the states – not the Federal government.

            So welfare and all other such programs belong solely to the states. By the Constitution, the Federal government cannot get involved. Does that answer your question? Or do you wish to ignore that?

          • GregS

            45, doesn’t the 10th Amendment have more to do with powers and rights granted to states vs federal government, as opposed to money spent by the federal government? According to Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, Congress has the power to tax the people, and then use the taxes in any way it sees fit. I would think that that would include money spent on services, such as abortion. After all, isn’t that the reason why we have always had to make laws, such as the Hyde Amendment, AGAINST federal funding of abortion?

          • GregS

            Roe v. Wade opened a Pandora’s box, which can only be closed by overturning that horrendous decision. It’s because of Roe v. Wade that Planned Parenthood has become the powerful, billion-dollar corporation that it is, with over one third of its clinic income being generated from abortions. That doesn’t even include all the money that it gets from private donors, such as Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, etc. With that kind of money, Planned Parenthood does NOT need our tax dollars, especially during a time when dramatic cuts are needed to prevent our country from going bankrupt from all the unnecessry spending that Congress does. When it comes to cuts, every little bit counts. The only reason why the Democrats don’t want to de-fund Planned Parenthood, is because it contributes heavily to their coffers during election time, through its very powerful political action committees (PAC’s).

            Obummer is joined at the hip to Planned Parenthood, since he promised them, during his presidential campaign, that he would make funding abortion as “healthcare” a top priority. Hence ObummerCare and tax dollars to Planned Parenthood. Abortion and Planned Parenthood are examples of the many sacred cows of the Democrats, which they will NEVER compromise on. Talk about halting our government over ideology! The Democrats win first prize for that!

      • Doc Sarvis

        So your opinion is that only the rich should be able to get abortions.

        • Bob

          No one should get abortions; period. Abortion is murder and all who support, perform, and receive abortions are murderers.

          • GregS

            Well said, Bob! However, I truly believe that the woman is the second victim of every abortion (not a muderer), since in many cases, she’s under a lot of pressure from others around her to have the abortion.

          • Conservative United

            Bob, Amen!!!! Abortion is MURDER!!!

          • Jovianus

            Abortion is murder/ So you say. What makes you right and others wrong in deeciding that issue? ( I know..I know…every time worn argument is about to come down on me because what I believe is wrong because you say it’s wrong. I am so wrong, in fact, that no state has placed such a referendum in front of the voters for their voting opinion. From what i know, any anti-choice legislation has come from wacked out legislators…and not the voters. I could be wrong about that…I mean, look at Kansas and its education standards concerning science and religion…

          • GregS

            Jovianus says:

            “…no state has placed such a referendum in front of the voters for their voting opinion.”

            Jovianus, you need to review your history before making such ludicrous statements about the “wacked out legislators:”

            First of all, states, like Michigan and North Dakota, had referenda (i.e. vote by the PEOPLE) to legalize abortion just before Roe v Wade. North Dakota voted 78% against abortion, and Michigan voted 63% against abortion.

            Furthermore, In April of ’72, New York State repealed its permissive abortion law. Governor Nelson Rockefeller vetoed the repeal, and the law remained in force. In the November ’72 elections, however, so many pro-abortion legislators were swept out of office that the New York General Assembly had enough votes to override the governor’s veto. Plans were made to again repeal the law when that legislature reconvened in 1973. Before it could act, however, the Supreme Court handed down the Roe v. Wade decision.

            So you see, Jovianus, most people did not want abortion. But, on January 22, 1973, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled, and abortion was imposed against the will of most people from the top down!

          • Jovianus

            I was referring to after the Right was recognized….not anything before the Right to Choice was ruloed as existing by the SCOTUS.

          • GregS

            That’s NOT what your post said. Besides, even if that is what you meant, it makes no sense, because under the current law of abortion being declared a so-called “right,” a referendum as such would not even be allowed. Therefore, abortion is still imposed against the will of the people from the top down. If there are enough people to elect legislators who can correct that problem, then so be it!

        • Patty

          NO Sarvis, my belief is that you should be responsible for your actions, not others. Why is it so easy for you to let other people off the hook for being responsible adults? That mentality has gotten us to this point of many not being responsible and few to pay for it for them.

          • Jovianus

            Patty..please explain how the current law states no federal funds for abortion…and the GOp is wanting to close PP, what would be the reasons ? If abortion is federally funded since it is against current law, and PP provides women’s health exams and advice on safe sex to mostly teenagers, poor and middle class income women… seems the GOP is waving a red flag for meat when it’s all another lie.

          • Patty

            Jovianus – I could barely follow what you were saying. For one, the repubs do not want to “close down” PP, they just don’t want to fund it with tax dollars. PP has billions in private donations. Let them stand on their own. If the feds aren’t putting in for it, you and your progressive buds can get together and make your own donations and take them as a tax deduction, saving you even more on your tax bill.

          • Jovianus

            Patty..0.0083% is the item for Planned Parenthood. I believe it’s $300 million/year is what PP receives as federal funding. Providing to teenage, poor and middle class women screenings, health exam, cancer checkups and birth control consultations. They do not use federal funds for abortions. Are we in agreement with the above?

            Of the thousands of items in the budget, literally thousands…why is the GOP so hard core against continuing a program which has such obvious benefits our society and to teenage, poor and middle class women?

          • Patty

            Jovianus – Because we have to start cutting somewhere. And this is just as good a place as any. And by the way, you are incorrect in what PP provides which has been covered in several posts here and verified. They get billions privately, they will still be able to offer whatever services they do, it just won’t be gov’t. funded. They will still exist and still perform abortions. What is the big deal to defund them. It is NOT shutting them down. Using your logic, gov’t. funding is such a small part of their cash flow, since it is so dividing for our country drop the funding. They will still survive.

        • GregS

          Where in my post did I say that “only the rich should be able to get abortions?” As Bob said above, NO ONE should be able to get abortions, unless it’s to save the life of the mother!

        • Patty

          Sarvis – The average cost of an abortion is $350-400. Those women can just sell their food stamps for the month for an abortion instead of selling them for drugs….which they do all the time. If there is a will, there is a way, or they could try just not getting pregnant. Keep their legs shut. And don’t even bring up the rape BS. The likelyhood of a woman becoming pregnant as a result of rape is VERY VERY low.

          • Carlucci

            So is the “potential of the mother’s life being in danger”. That’s another bogus excuse they use. What a crock.

          • Jana

            Patty,
            Or maybe even gasp gasp go out and get a job. Go to work. Wow what a concept.

          • Patty

            Car/Jana – No kidding.

        • Carlucci

          Doc Sarvis says:
          April 11, 2011 at 8:43 am

          “So your opinion is that only the rich should be able to get abortions.”

          Which blogger posted that? I didn’t read that anywhere on this blog. Typical knee jerk liberal response. Hey – did you play the part of the zombie in “Interview with a Zombie”?

      • Rufus

        Gregs how about the oil, banking, defense, farm and insurance industries? All get tax dollars, tax credits, buy republican & democratic lawmakers, defraud the public, and ship jobs out of US.

        • GregS

          Rufus, that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the topic being discussed in this thread. I might be inclined to agree with you on at least some of those issues, but the topic is about Planned Parenthood.

          • Jovianus

            Actually…the topic is the GOP using ideology to try and push through a very unpopular agenda taking from middle class and poor Americans and once again wanting to subsidize the wealthy.

          • Patty

            Jovianus – “F” in comprehension, right?

          • Thamera

            Jovi – are you sure you don’t post as SherriWW from time to time? LOL

    • Les

      Doc Croc Troll, I am sure that PP is supportive of screenings, but none of clinics contacted provided them. Many other agencies and sources do. Squeezing a boob isn’t really the same thing and is certainly not a valid argument for osterizing children (for the children of course). PP has never left it’s mission, eugenics, nor it’s racist roots (targeting Black Americans). Hitler would be proud of PP and the millions they take from Americans, but he is dead and burning in H.

    • 2WarAbnVet

      It wasn’t too long ago when a group went to 27 PP offices asking about cancer screenings and got nothing more than blank stares. Perhaps they should have asked for abortions.

  • Barb

    Repubs are also jellyfish…no backbone. We worked so hard and this is what we get. All the promises…and they can’t deliver. I’m done w/them.

    • Patty

      Barb – Please don’t throw in the towel. The tea partiers elected did not back this bill. They voted no or refused to vote. Find more candidates and vote to replace the RINO repubs. Please don’t give up. I am also disapponted in Friday, but you have to look at the facts. They didn’t have enough votes to get it passed in the senate, democrats still rule and the Planned Parenthood is not done, it is up for discussion later. They are going to have to raise that debt ceiling again. See what happens with that fight and keep contacting your representative.

      • http://personalliberty.com frank

        Barb Patty is right. The tea party people will not ignore this the Rinos will have to go .

      • Mick

        Patty says:
        April 11, 2011 at 7:56 am
        Barb – Please don’t throw in the towel. The tea partiers elected did not back this bill. They voted no or refused to vote. Find more candidates and vote to replace the RINO repubs. Please don’t give up. I am also disapponted in Friday, but you have to look at the facts. They didn’t have enough votes to get it passed in the senate, democrats still rule and the Planned Parenthood is not done, it is up for discussion later. They are going to have to raise that debt ceiling again. See what happens with that fight and keep contacting your representative.
        ************************
        Right on Patty,,,We can’t afford to give up on trying to stop the Democrat agenda destroying this country….
        Even if some conservative ideas sounds a bit over the top to many due to many citizen’s spoiled habits, we need to elect representatives willing to show the way back to responsiblity and common sense.

        • David Roberts

          This “entitlement mentality”, much stronger in younger people, is a direct result of the Progressives getting that message to our school children, starting in Elementary School. It is also a result of complacient parents who ignore the problem or are not aware of the problem. Let us not forget the Liberal Labor Unions influence on most school systems.

          • Mick

            Wow David ,,,finally somebody understanding the way it reallt works……Bravo.

          • TIME

            David,

            I agree with much of what you posted, but as one of the BLOGS here today written by Bob Livingston he notes, {words are being missused, aka changing the meanings}
            Thus the word “LIBERAL” is not used in it’s proper format anylonger.

            Again I am a TRUE LIBERAL, what we have in DC, are in fact MARXIST, thats not quite the same as a true LIBERAL.

            Lets be honest, we don’t have two partys, Demo’s v RebO’s they are in fact one in the same. They are just POSING to make it look good.
            Folks you all have to grasp that point of fact before we can fix the root of the problem. {We are not at war with each other.} The only people who think there is a two party system, is the general public.

            Politicians are alledged to be working for the “GOOD of all Americans” not just {SPECIAL INTEREST} groups. This divide is what has become little more than a joke to anyone who is really awake.
            As both RebO’s & DemO’s are the same thing now.

            We need to toss out anyone in both Houses who has voted for any of the absurd {spending bills, and TAX hikes,} as well any and all controlls of business, as well as anyone who has been in office longer than 2 terms.
            You can’t clean up a mess with nasty muddy dirty water now can you?

            Well thats the point, the DC belt way is full of Nasty Dirty Muddy water. If you want to fix the problem go to the root and fix the roots and then you can start to fix the problems.

            Kick out the whole NWO gang, if we don’t we all will fail and fall by the way side. End of story.

          • Patty

            Time – I could not agree with you more. Divide and conquer is their motto and right now they are winning that game. I think most of us have the same and basic belief system, it is just how it is presented to us (that whole word thing that Bob refers to). It is very refreshing to read (in so many words) that you think the democratic party has been hijacked by fringe groups, as has the republican side. Trying feverishly to get tea partiers in there to get it back is our attempt to derail the repubs. What are the liberals like yourself doing to win back your democratic designation?

          • TIME

            Patty,
            I left the DemO party years ago that was right after I awoke from my sleep around 1978 ish. To be honest most of the people I knew that were DemO’s have all gone Independent.
            But as Dave H has pointed out many times I as well as most of the people I know are in fact Libertarians.

            As far as I see it there are at best 10 Democrats that are worth even speaking of. The rest should be shot for Treason.
            But there are just as many RebO’s that would be in that same boat.
            I figure out of both house’s we have only 40 that are worth talking about the rest would turn on a dime. So when you think that out of 535 there are at best 50 in both houses as well both partys that stand for something that has American core values, thats bloody sad!

          • Patty

            Time – It sure is a sad state of affairs. But, with the sheeple running around ignorant and blissful, it gets downright disgusting. My neighbor ran for office as a democrat this past election. She lost. I think it is a touchy subject for her but she said she was looking for a different party. She had to say and follow certain things she did not agree with or they would not help fund her campaign.

      • barbm

        actually, some tea party reps did vote yes. i believe, if memory serves, that 17 out of the 28 who voted no were tea party reps. that leaves a bunch who voted yes.

    • David Roberts

      Now is the time to FIGHT HARDER! We can not let these Socialist Lefties destroy our Republic. There is nowhere else in the World like the USA and we must protect Her.

      • Rufus

        How about the righties that are trying to destroy our democracy?

        • Patty

          Rufus – You have a lot of catching up to do. We are a REPUBLIC. Dust off your history book you never bothered to crack in public school and start READING to educate yourself.

          • Rufus

            We the people, everybody not just those who believe a narrow ideology. You need to read more then your narrow right wing sources. That is the problem with your position. No room for descent. No room for thinking. Just mindlessly repeating things you have read. How about some original thoughts. Stop dismissing anyone who disagrees with you. The only way to get our country going is if we listen and think about different ideas. Do not be afraid of thinking.

          • TIME

            Rufus The Red,

            Your are in fact the one that needs to get with the program.
            By your post alone your ignorace has been exposed for what it clearly is.

            Now the only question is are you just “Ignorant,” as that can be cured.

            Or are you aggressively STUPID, as thats a case of Fostering its growth. As such its not curable its in fact bloody fatal.

          • Patty

            Rufus – You are so misled. I believe in freedom. So much so that if MY freedom treads on yours, it is wrong. If you are following the progressive ideology, you are the narrow minded one because they believe that if you do not embrace every aspect of what they believe and want to force on everyone else, then you are in the wrong. I will warn you once, DON’T tread on me I can/will stomp muddholes in everything you spew. Ask Jovianus and the like. You cannot post facts or truths, only liberal mantra verbage. Sorry you find the facts so annoying, maybe you should read them and maybe, just maybe, you might LEARN something.

  • Barb

    PP does not give cancer screenings. And it’s also about murdering innocent children. Funny how if it doesn’t affect you it doesn’t matter.

  • http://www.farkas.net Dan Farkas

    Our current President, along with the Republicans, Democrats, and Independents presently serving in the House and Senate, STILL do not understand why the country is in the mess it is in now. People who purchased homes they could not afford were offered government-backed loans. Some of those same people, and many others, ran up huge deficits on their credit cards and could not pay. Our governments at both the federal and state levels spent more than they take in, yet continue to spend. Deficit spending has to stop.

    The next step is 100% taxation and complete dependency on the government. There will be no incentive to work hard to earn a living, since the government will take it all and spend it on those who do not want to work, do not want to study hard in school, or have no ambition to succeed. After all, why should they when the government will care for them forever. Social Security was NOT meant to be your “retirement” plan. People in this country no longer save because the Democrats and our President want them to be dependent on them. They are buying votes to perpetuate the demise of this nation.

    Lastly, businesses should not be taxed. A tax on a business is simply and expense that diminishes the ability for the business to either pay dividends to share holders (dividends attract investors) or to increase the capabilities of the business through investment in research of new products, increased production capability (new factories and JOBS), or increased pay for their workers.

    • David Roberts

      “The next step is 100% taxation and complete dependency on the government”…That would be Socialism. Ring any bells? Beware of Obama’s skills of DECEPTION. He’s [or Soros] very good at it.

      • Mick

        David ,,,perfect descrption of what Obama’s true skills are………

        • David Roberts

          Unfortunatly……

    • 45caliber

      I must disagree about SS. It WAS meant as a retirement plan because “Amerianns do not save for their retirement, placing burdens on their children and themselves in their later years.” The idea was that you would involuntarily pay into the account and the money – plus interest – would pay for your retirement. Supposedly there would be enough that you could receive interest and – when you died – the principal would go to the government.

      The real problem was that when people paid in and weren’t taking out, the money piled up fast. So Congress saw some good chances to buy votes. First they put the elderly who didn’t pay in on the rolls. Then they had to have offices in every town. Then they added the invalids, the blind, etc. When they finally ran out of people to put on the rolls they “borrowed” for other purposes. Finally, they quit borrowing.

      So you are wrong about SS. Besides, do you actually believe that if the government ended payments to the elderly that they would also end the tax? I don’t think so!

      • Patty

        45Cal – I agree with everything you said except for it was not intended to be your only retirement vehicle. It was to supplement your retirement.
        “It was intended to supplement 42 percent of your retirement needs. It was never intended for you to live off,” Bass said. “We hope you have some additional income.”

    • juswonderin

      Dan; I do realize that Soc Sec was not meant to be our total icome for retirement. Unfortunately, many people & I am one of them. I worked & paid into Soc Sec for over 50 yrs. IT ALSO WAS NOT MEANT TO BE USED FOR ANY OTHER REASON THAN FOR ELDERCARE. That being said, I had to work 12 hrs a day & a second job while raising my son alone as a single mother. Ofcourse 40 some yrs ago, child support was never taken out of a man’s income. I received NO support except for a few groceries that my church provided & my parents helped with babysitting while I worked. I didn’t make the kind of money to “put aside” for retirement. I wasn’t even thinking of retirement. My goal was to work until it was time for me to pass on or close to it. Then I found myself with no insurance, no job, no income. I was released from my job of 11 yrs because of not being able to understand the computer system that was being used @ my job. There I was with nothing. There are NO jobs for the elderly in my part of this world. Then I was in the position of HAVING to be on medicaid for my breast cancer surgery. That was very humiliating for me, to say the least! I was not raised to be a “welfare” recepient & when Medicare became my source of income, I could then get a decent apt to live in. My son has helped me as much as he can. Then 6 yrs later, I had breast cancer in the other side. Again, I was dependent on MediCare & Medicaid. It was never a choice that I could make. Life is short & I would love to find a job that I could do, but they just are not there. Now about the PP issue. I think all we really want is for the taxpayers not to have to bear the burden of paying for someone’s abortion. As Patty said, there are a LOT of private donors to PP & this type of “taxpayer funding” should be abolished. I’ve had my family torn apart in many ways because of abortion & it’s not pretty! I not only lost a baby relative, but I lost my niece that had the abortion. I’ve lost a great-grandkid because of abortion. I’m not for ANY TYPE OF ABORTION, but I don’t think it’s right to force the public to have to pay for them either! A few million dollars is a LOT of money to the average citizen, why should our budget have to take that on too? That few million could go to our schools. You know, the Pregnancy Crisis Centers don’t get any tax money…do they? If not, why not? It IS a political issue with a strong moral issue also. Some people are starving & losing their homes & jobs. Don’t you think that few million could help some of them?? That’s just my opinion tho.

  • Loral Orow

    The term “Women’s Health” referred to by Harry Reid in more simpler terms means: ABORTION. Why should the American public be paying for women to have abortions, when most of us disagree with it and because Obama promised we would NOT be paying for it. I hope this does not get passed again.

    I also wonder what’s the big deal about a budget when Obama continues his extreme spending as we speak. We just spent $20 million to have Sesame Street programming produced in Pakistan. How does that involve America? We’re spending an enormous amount on arms for Libya. A rich nation like that and the US is paying for their arms in a civil war. How does that make any sense?

    • David Roberts

      Your comments about Libya are “Spot On”. It doesn’t make a “Lick of Sense”.

    • Patty

      Especially when they do not even know who those rebels are.

      • Mick

        Patty says:
        April 11, 2011 at 8:06 am
        Especially when they do not even know who those rebels are.
        **************************************
        Patty…..I’m not sure about that,,,Who really knows ?
        WE may not know who the rebels are I’m not so sure about the president though.
        In a conscious world Obama’s constant deceptions should bring on distrust.

        • Patty

          Mick-point taken.

      • Carlucci

        I just posted these links on the other discussion blog.

        Just in case you missed it, everybody needs to see this:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

        And this: http://www.virginianewssource.com/editors-messsage/972-a-deal-made-by-henry-kissinger-decades-ago-responsible-for-current-problems

        I hate to burst anyone’s bubble, but I truly believe that the Congress and Senate are virtually powerless now. They are just there for show and to create an illusion that they are “doing something” for the people of America.

      • Jovianus

        We may not know a lot about the rebels in Libya, but we sure as heck know a lot about Khaddafi…and they aren’t lies like Bush gave us with Sammy either.

  • http://none Karl Larsen

    The government announced that things are so bad they are going to start getting money out of our retirement accounts and make our Medicare which we all paid for while working the same as Medicaid!

    To bad we come to this but please remember the 2012 elections. We are doomed by this government!

    • Patty
    • Rufus

      We are doomed by your ignorance.

      • Patty

        Rufus-why don’t you put some facts where your enept keyboarding is?

        • Carlucci

          Maybe Rufus can do that when he pulls his head out of his rectal database.

          • Patty

            :) They are like shooting fish in a barrel.

      • Thamera

        Again, more self-reflection Rufus? You should really stop being so hard on yourself! LOL

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy 131

    They are both liars and it is business as usual with these career politicians. This budget, with its 38.5 billion dollars in cuts, which is just less than 1% of the total budget, is an increase in spending over last years budget by 258 billion dollars. With these so called draconian and meanspirited cuts they agreed on, they’re still spending more money than they did last year. Obama’s next year budget, which he claims will have huge spending cuts, will spend more than this years budget, for its easy to cut something you purposely inflated in order to get the real increase in spending that you want. The American people are being played as fools by both Parties, and the largest spending cut in history that Obama claimed is a lie, for it is less than 1% of the total budget, and all other spending cuts in the past were a lot more than 1%, or they would have been considered an exercise in futility, which these cuts are, for if you take into account inflation, then these cuts aren’t even total dollar record cuts either.

    • 45caliber

      A politician’s “Cut” is actually simply asking for $100 billion and settling on $50 billion. He has “cut” the budget by $50 billion – even though he spent $50 billion instead.

      It’s like Clinton’s “surplus”. He didn’t spend as much as they planned so it was a “surplus” – even though it was all borrowed money in the first place.

    • Jovianus

      OK..let me see if i can put this in a way a simpleton can understand it. Revenues are cut (the special tax bracket given to the wealthy this past Decemeber courtesy of the GOP holding up in hostage your tax relief package). Cost is $300 bil in tax revenues.

      Now $300 bil in decreased deficit sure looks nice in comparison to $34 bil in cuts to programs which aid the teenage, the poor, the middle class doesn’t it?

      Take a time of propserity…the Clinton years. Cuts taxes on the middle class. Peace and prosperity to everyone. A surplus budget at the end of his term. Full employment. Peace. We’re sailin’ along with our main worry is an economic ‘correction’ before stabilizing and growing more.

      Comes the GOP. Lowers taxes on the wealthy, deficits come back. Manufacturing output is lowest in any modern presidency. Job creation lowest in any modern presidency. Massive dergulation and along with deregulation the number of regulators are slashed so not even existing regulations are monitored. Record deficits and economic activity built on the largest housing bubble in our history…

      Think about it.

      • Thamera

        hmmmm…thought about it…maybe you should think about it a little more. I for one am glad that the Bush Tax Cuts were not repealed. That would of hurt middle class Americans Jovi but then maybe in your limited view, anyone making over say $48k is considered wealthy??? How about $75k??? $120k maybe? The point being it isn’t the governments money to take in the first place! As for the rest of your assessment there is a lot that you have not included in your breakdown for us “simpletons” LOL Keep trying though. :D

  • Bob

    I guess the lieberals just want to wait until government comes to a complete shutdown due to bankruptcy. The problem of government spending must be addressed NOW, not after the parasites of government have consumed our last drop of blood.

    • 45caliber

      Actually the Dems want to shut down the government under a Republican House so they can say that the GOP was the fault of the shutdown rather than their liberal policies and people. They simply are playing the GAME rather than worrying about the country and the people in it.

      • Patty

        45Cal – They just don’t realize that we are awake, watching, listening and are ready to shout it from the roof tops. 2012 will be about as contentious as what went on in WI.

  • http://personalliberty.com frank

    did not rep. Stupak say obama was going to sign an executive order to take abortion out of obummer care lol what a joke . the liar in chief strikes cagain.

  • David in MA

    2012 will be a perfect time to vote out the remaining members of the “Good old Boy’s (and Girls) Club, along with comrade obaamaa!

    • newspooner

      David in MA,

      Glad to see your comment. We need help. But just waiting to vote out the scumbags isn’t good enough. We need to get good opponents on the Ballot, AND crack (at least partially) the biased media blackout that happens to them. You can help. Let me know where you are in MA and I will put you in contact with some of our activists. Your help is needed. You can make a difference. Already we have a very important State Rep. Special Election in the Sixth Worcester District where the Establishment socialists, with the help of a corrupt judge, are trying to steal an election from one of our people who won by four votes, then by one vote after a recount. The Election is May 10 in Southbridge, Spencer, Oxford, East Brookfield, and Charlton. Can you help now? Let me know.

      • Bob

        There needs to be an investigation of bias in the media. Freedom of the press is not an issue when the press is part of a conspiracy to destroy America by covering up for the democrats, misrepresenting the facts, and actively aiding the traitors of the democrat party.

    • wINNIE

      my God!! And have the republicans back in the office? Remember Bush? What an awful time the Americans had with Bush II at the helm. 9/11 was on his watch, Irag was his war, and his spenting was just as bad as the current president. I posted this statement before, GO AND VOTE AND VOTE OUT ALL THE CURRENT IDIOTS OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE, THE REPRESENTATIVES, AND THE SENATE. Look at all the oldies who got back in November. Instead of fighting with one another you Americans get together and fight on the same side, Fight for your rights and your hard earned money. Get the bums off the streets and out of their beds and get them to sweep and clean up the garbage, do something, anything to get them to work, Vote, vote, vote. Go out and vote.

      • Patty

        And vote Tea Party!

      • 45caliber

        I can’t say about your state but ours did a LOT better under Bush than we are under Oblama. Not that Bush did a lot. But he didn’t wreck a lot either.

        • Jovianus

          45…Texas correct? Errr…you think that budget fiasco you have right now is because of this administration? Really?

    • Patty

      David in MA – How refreshing, you always hear how blue that state is. Take it upon yourself to turn that state red, white and blue with a tea party candidate. Arm yourself with knowledge and talk it up to whomever will listen to you in your state. Debunk all of these lies from both sides.

  • Raggs

    I see NO reason to re-elect ANY repub unless we want more of the same ole BS.

    • Patty

      RAGGS – Not re-elect, the word is REPLACE.

      • TIME

        Patty,

        Thats the deal……….REPLACE.

  • 2WarAbnVet

    It is now clear that the Repubs intend to roll over and allow Owebama to bankrupt the country. Their promises mean no more than his did. The 38.5 billion they settled for was less than the debt accumulated in a single week.

    • Patty

      2War- Stay tuned for part 2 with the new budget. That was not their budget that got passed. They were cleaning up democrat left overs who have not signed off on a budget since Nobamma got in.

      • Patty

        Kind of like never reconciling your check book. Which I know many younger people have no clue how to do that.

  • D. Russell

    I am so amazed that so many people are still arguing about funding for Planned Partenthood. Didn’t the Dems just pass a Healthcare law that provides healthcare for everyone? Or so they claimed. All of us, women especially, should be able to get ANY screenings they need under that plan. If that is truly the case, why would we, the taxpayer, have to fund a MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR, PRIVATE CORPORATION thats primary reason for existence is the extermination of the black race(their founders words, not mine)by murdering as many of the unborn as possible? Where are the liberals that are so dead set against big business?

  • TTPM

    The history of the world has proven that Socialism does not work. it leads to bigger government and more taxes to sustain itself which eventually becomes unsustainable. This President has moved this country towards Socialism faster than anyone in the history of the United States. The last election was a start to get rid of anyone, regardless of party affiliation, that cannot vote to get the government out of our lives and and allow Americans to live as free people. Anytime Government gets involved it ends up costing the government (Ameican people) more money and creating more bureaucracies within the government that has to be funded each year. Thus the government keeps growing to the point it is unsustainable. If the American people do not come together to control the government the U S is destined to failure the same as past countries in the history of the world. Remember people america was founded on the principles of a small government for defense of the nation and for the American people to flourish it needs the freedoms afforded us by our Forefathers. It takes due diligence by everyoe to guarantee our children and grand children the same freedoms.

    • 45caliber

      Russia is an excellent example of a bad socialism. When it failed, they ended up with their criminal class in control. I suppose when we go down we will end up with the Mafia and the Syndicate in power here.

      • Patty

        45Cal – You mean they aren’t already???

  • http://dochob Shirley Hobby

    Our country is NOT doomed to failure if we will stop, take a breath and allow our brains to work rather than our emotions. I am tired of hateful distortions of the truth. We need to stop trying to LABEL and Libel each other AND insist that our elected officials do the same. The situation is serious and requires leadership not worrying about being elected but finding the least painful most effective solution to the problems of our nation. Disrespectful name calling is immature and non-productive. Please support our leaders and require that they work together for the good of the American people and the fate of our country.

    • 45caliber

      The real problem with our government is that our “representatives” are concerned about their reelection and income first, their party second, and then their voters third. Country is dead last.

      • Jovianus

        45…once again we agree. From the first day after an election, the winner has to begin rasing funds for the next election. I read this weekend with the average cost of a campaign, it comes to approximately $10,000/day to be able to fund their next re-election campaign.

        So they meet with a lobbyist during the day who details out his client’s position…and that night, as we are told in a totally separate context, at a fund raiser the same lobbyist slips a check into the coffers.

        It’s both parties…forgive me for the one example isn’t meant to slam the GOP only…but there were two Congressmen who skipped the swearing in ceremony this year because they were attending a fundraiser! Yes…a fundraiser. So they faced the TV and repeated the oath to the TV. (One was a recently elected TPer…at a fundraiser on the day of the Swearing in Ceremony).

        When money becomes that important, we have a system which the ordinary citizen is ignored.

        So what’s the solution (a viable solution) ?

        • Patty

          OMG. I agree! How about we get rid of lobbyists? Earmarks? Let’s start small and with both of them. Maybe because there is such a dummy downed voter base we should have term limits. I was never for them before, but because people vote so uneducated, maybe we should do that. We have all these other laws to protect the ignorant.

          • TIME

            Patty,

            An IQ test to vote, also no one in PRISON can vote, if your on Government aid you can’t vote either.
            Oh “all students who don’t pay taxs” can’t vote.

            And last but not least if your not a natural born American you can’t vote either.

            With just these few things I strongly feel that the whole mess would be clean up in all of 2 years.

          • Jovianus

            Time’s solution…let the white male folks vote. Nice…reallll nice.

            I’d say allow for national initiatives and referendums…let there be a way to go around Congress if need be.

          • Thamera

            Jovi, are you saying that everyone with a low IQ, in prison, on government aid, who doesn’t pay taxes and is not a natural born American is anyone that isn’t a white male? lol

  • Winnie

    United Stats of America was founded on Capitalism. The Rich get richer and poor get poorer. That is the flaw of the US of A. It was not founded on Christian faith. In those times the founders got filthy rich on the backs of the slaves. Both the North and the South. Few good Christians used their hands and brains to accumulate their riches. I applaud those citizens. They are also the ones who showed compassion and helped their fellow Americans get on their feet. Get on their feet and not give them hand outs. One good intention was passed on to the next. The filthy wealthy got the Civil war going partially because of slavery and some other reasons that really don’t matter anymore. USA is still divided, north against the south, left against the right, demcrats against republicans. The hard working people are still hard working while the filthy rich take their companies off to other countries so that they don’t have to pay the higher wages the hard working people are asking and so that they don’t have to give back to their country in taxes. Blame Unions, but also blame greed. Just take a look at their humonguos salaries. They are out exploiting the poor natives of the other countries who don’t fight for raises or for better working conditions. Give credit where credit is due, and give blame to the citizens who don’t vote but complain, complain, namecall, misspell names on purpose and all those things going on on this blog. Quit your blaming and name calling and unite, if you are one of the hardworking, Christian people. Just thought I’d put in my two cents. I know I will get negative comments about my say but that’s your right. But what a wasteful right.

    • 45caliber

      Winnie:

      You said: “United Stats of America was founded on Capitalism. The Rich get richer and poor get poorer.”

      That is the liberal view of capitalism but I must disagree. The rich may get richer – which is certainly their goal – but the poor do not get poorer. The rich have to have employees who get paid better and the stores that sell to them get paid better, etc. You should take a basic course in business. It might help.

      • Thamera

        Exactly 45. I suppose the alternative would be so much better? To be poor say in Russia? Africa? India? China? South America? Just to name a few!

  • Lomax

    There are at least 800,000 Government workers that need to go anyway, and those that remain need to have their pay cut by about 33%.

    • Patty

      I’d settle for a 20% cut (whatever is private company equivelant), convert their retirement to a 401k with 100% employee contribution and a taxpayer 3% match.

    • 45caliber

      When a government worker gets paid nearly twice as much for doing the same job as a worker in the private sector, he definately needs his pay cut.

      • Patty

        45Cal – I don’t think their pay is that out of wack. It does need to be brought into line, but it is their benefits that are bankrupting us plus it takes 2 of them to do what 1 employee does in the private sector.

        • 45caliber

          True.

          I listened to a talk by an ex-buerocrat once. He stated that within the government, promotions are mainly made by the number of people who report to you. If you want a promotion, you don’t have to ask for one – you simply hire more people. Further, you don’t split your job between you and someone new; you hire two people to do your job. Then each has half the work and you are the only person who knows both halves. So you get a promotion. That doesn’t work in private businesses. I applied for a government job once when I was laid off and needed work. They told me they couldn’t hire me because I had worked too long in private industry and “didn’t have the experience to handle a government position.”

    • Stan Lee

      Lomax:
      Weren’t about 800,000 government workers classified as non-essential if the government had to shut down? ‘Kind of makes one wonder how essential hiring them was in the first place.

      When you hear someone exclaim how inefficient government is, they are not underestimating the government. Apply for a government job and see how unprofessionally done the reply is compared to that of a private business operation.

      It is no wonder they have so many non-essential positions.

  • TTPM

    If there had been a Government shutdown last week it was reported that only essenhtial personnel would still be funded. It was also reported that 800,000 to 1,000,000 NON-Essential positions would not be funded. there seems to be something here for all of us to learn. IF THEY ARE NON-ESSENTIAL WHY ARE THEY WORKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT! Private Companies cannot survive if they have Non-essential employees. Why does anyone think the government is any different!

    • Patty

      Exactly! They have to “pay back” all of their supporters.

  • 45caliber

    According to a government statement to the press I saw last week, any checks for SS or welfare will not be stopped if the government shuts down.. Those not yet in the system will have to wait for approval though. If you file taxes electronically and expect a return, if you get it transfered to your bank account, it will go through. If you want a check back or file by mail, you will have to wait.

    Parks, etc. will shut down because they are obvious and aren’t really needed. That does not mean the park officials will be laid off. The same for government offices. If you want some government aid on something, it will not be available.

  • barbm

    i’m against abortion at any stage. however, i’d be happy to fund abortion done prior to the child’s nerves being connected that allow it to feel pain IF, and only IF, the woman would be willing to be permanently steralized to make sure it NEVER happens again. if a child can’t depend on its mother to protect and nurture it, whom can it depend on? if a woman doesn’t take that responsibility seriously, she doesn’t deserve to have children later. she can go find one of her sisters who doesn’t want her child and see if she can talk her into having it and letting her adopt it. there are sooooo many people out there who would love to adopt a child but can’t because they’re being murdered instead of put up for adoption.

    • 45caliber

      But the government won’t allow that. A girl I know locally had two kids (on welfare) and wanted her tubes tied. The government official told her that they couldn’t do that until she had three kids – at least. So she had a third she didn’t want to get it done. Her mother raises all three of them while she runs around. In fact, the government took all three away from her because she was an unfit mother – but they still required her to have three kids.

      • Patty

        45Cal – Sick, sick, sick. The reason they would not tie her tubes is so that she could not come back later after she changed her mind and sue them (us). You can thank attorneys wanting to make a buck on that one.

  • http://com i41

    What is Dingy Harry trying to shut down the licessed whore houses for, the girs get medical care to protect the xustomers. What is Harry’s daughter or granddaughters from his “wives” street walking or getting extra spending money not declared? barbm that includes neautering the sire of the child, and also make the s–t bird pick up the tab. Since most of the sires are jail birds and scum of society, if a convicted drug user, seller, or had anything to do with illegal drugs, use a bradezo to cure the proble, no open body surgrey, it works by severing cords while keeping skin in tact. You can take 2 peice of paper and place a string between the sheets and cut the string and never brea the paper. A one minute operation, prison is a prime place to start controlling the problem of unwanted children. .45 the shut down would not have happened even if the 61 billion number was a lowest number, too much caving to the marxist/communists dumbocraps.

    • Thamera

      Exactly…I heard the same comment from Reid and asked the same question. LOL Another failed attempt at “pulling at the heartstrings” of Americans by using his wife and daughters as examples for not supporting PP with tax dollars. He (Reid) is an embarrassment.

  • Dr. Mabuse

    I received this email today and decided to pass it along to you guys:

    It was revealed by TPM in November that former Republican Senator and co-chair of Obama’s presidential debt said senior citizens went from the “greatest generation” to the “greediest generation.”
    A great open rebuttal letter by a senior from Montana has gone viral via email. The letter is below:
    Subject: Senator Alan Simpson Calls Seniors ‘Greediest Generation’
    Hey Alan,
    Let’s get a few things straight…
    1. As a career politician, you have been on the public dole for FIFTY YEARS…
    2. I have been paying Social Security taxes for 48 YEARS (since I was 15 years old. I am now 63)…
    3. My Social Security payments, and those of millions of other Americans, were safely tucked away in an interest bearing account for decades until you political pukes decided to raid the account and give OUR money to a bunch of zero ambition losers in return for votes, thus bankrupting the system and turning Social Security into a Ponzi scheme that would have made Bernie Madoff proud…
    4. Recently, just like Lucy & Charlie Brown, you and your ilk pulled the proverbial football away from millions of American seniors nearing retirement and moved the goalposts for full retirement from age 65 to age 67. NOW, you and your shill commission is proposing to move the goalposts YET AGAIN…
    5. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying into Medicare from Day One, and now you morons propose to change the rules of the game. Why? Because you idiots mismanaged other parts of the economy to such an extent that you need to steal money from Medicare to pay the bills…
    6. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying income taxes our entire lives, and now you propose to increase our taxes yet again. Why? Because you incompetent bastards spent our money so profligately that you just kept on spending even after you ran out of money. Now, you come to the American taxpayers and say you need more to pay of YOUR debt…
    To add insult to injury, you label us “greedy” for calling “bullshit” on your incompetence. Well, Captain Bullshit, I have a few questions for YOU…
    1. How much money have you earned from the American taxpayers during your pathetic 50-year political career?
    2. At what age did you retire from your pathetic political career, and how much are you receiving in annual retirement benefits from the American taxpayers?
    3. How much do you pay for YOUR government provided health insurance?
    4. What cuts in YOUR retirement and health care benefits are you proposing in your disgusting deficit reduction proposal, or, as usual, have you exempted yourself and your political cronies?
    It is you, Captain Bullshit, and your political co-conspirators who are “greedy”. It is you and they who have bankrupted America and stolen the American dream from millions of loyal, patriotic taxpayers. And for what? Votes. That’s right, sir. You and yours have bankrupted America for the sole purpose of advancing your pathetic political careers. You know it, we know it, and you know that we know it.

  • Winnie

    Applaud, applaud, standing ovation. Dr. Amuse, you have just told the truth and nothing but the whole truth. Thank you. One level-headed person in this blog.

  • Stan Lee

    If Reid’s Senate seat is secure via Nevada-style voting, we have to vote out his senatorial supporting cast, which in turn would relegate the Nevada soprano to Pelosi’s present status…nowhere.
    So much for “Squeaky!”

  • http://com i41

    We still don’t hear a word about cutting a dime from the government employess, including all the multi millionares in and out of Congress or their benefits. Call or email all of your elected representives and ask to expalin why there is no cutting their pay and benefits, it has been a month and I’m still waiting for a response. About 50 of us are going to call Congressional offices and ask what in the hell we don’t see any cut for the beltway porkers and why we are still giving money to nations that hate us. Or why not a damn thing was done on the money waste by bloated agencies and worthless agencies. All of my state’s democrap elected idoits have supported the UN and think it is a humanitiarn organization who provideds guidance to the world.

  • Kathleen Androlewicz

    I have to ask the question, why are the stars on the elephant upside down? Is that Satanical or what? It didn’t use to be that way. But I think this new symbol is rather disturbing.

  • Kathleen Androlewicz

    Why are the stars on the elephant upside down. They never used to be but some years back it changed and the stars were made to be upside down. Doesn’t this bother anyone besides me? It seems rather satanical/luciferian. But then again, just like the Democrats, the Republicans have also been bought out by the Globalists because lets face it, the agendas, whether Republican or Democrat merge into the same things and have you noticed that no matter who the ruling party is they are still furthering the agendas of the globalists instead of undoing what was repulsive legislation?

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