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House Passes Bill To Cut NPR Funding

March 22, 2011 by  

House passes bill to cut NPR fundingThe House of Representatives has approved a bill to end Federal funding to National Public Radio (NPR).

Lawmakers voted 228-192 in favor of the legislation, which will now advance to the Senate. Although it is not expected to pass in the Democrat-led chamber, the bill is viewed as a symbolic strike against the nonprofit media organization which has been under fire in recent months.

In October 2010, NPR fired longtime news analyst Juan Williams after he admitted during an interview with FOX News' Bill O'Reilly that he gets nervous when he sees Muslims on a plane. The organization's CEO, Vivian Schiller, resigned recently following the leak of a controversial video showing former NPR fundraising executive Ron Schiller — no relation — blasting the Tea Party and questioning whether the group needs Federal funding.

According to BBC News, NPR received approximately $5 million in Federal aid during the 2010 fiscal year.

In other legislative action on St. Patrick's Day, the Senate approved a three-week spending extension that was previously passed by the House. The continuing resolution, which was expected to be signed by President Barack Obama, would give lawmakers until April 8 to agree on a budget for the remainder of FY 2011, which ends on Sept. 30.

Although the extension measure slashes $6 billion from current levels, conservative Republicans have called for bigger cuts in order to reduce a projected $1.65 trillion national deficit.

"We need to do more than just trim a little bit around the edges,'' said Representative Mike Lee (R.-Utah), quoted by The Wall Street Journal.

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  • s c

    Let yahoos who have a use for NPR fund it. Let the funding come directly out of the pockets of Democrats or whatever political group dares to confuse entertainment with political enlightenment.
    Democrats and wannabe progressives have many sources who could fund NPR out of petty cash. NPR does not make my life better. NPR does not show me journalistic objectivity.
    I do not need NPR, and I don’t want it. Just in case Washington is in bed with NPR (no surprise there), let politicians pay for it (out of THEIR pockets).

  • Stan Smith

    Good! Bye Bye NPR! Get your own money from your wealthy Lib donors!

  • tim

    About time!!!!!!!!

  • karolyn

    NPR is going nowhere, thank goodness. It’s the only radio station where I can get international news, entertainmednt information, scientific information, local interest news and more! Of course, I know that it would survive without federal funding, especially now that so many consevatives areagainst it – contributions are up! I wonder how many of you have ever listened? I would suspect most judgments are made via others’ views. Despite what your cohorts have told you, NPR does present both sides of the coin on all issues. Conservative callers DO call in and question progressive guests and vice versa. It’s totally open to all.

    • newspooner

      The propaganda on NPR is usually quite subtle, enough so that it fools many people who are relatively sharp academically, but have not adequately inquired into the issues. Kind of like Newsweek magazine in the 1960′s when they were more subtle than Time magazine so lots of “moderate” Americans praised Newswek while admitting that Time was slanted towards socialism. And then there are the not very subltle commentators there who simply annoy us as they spew socialism more openly there.

      NPR is somewhat like Rush Limbaugh — it frequently has discussions that point out some of the things going wrong in the country and the world, then offers poor or wrong solutions. Rush offers the Republican Party as the answer to our ills (How’s that been working for you for the past 80 years??!!!). NPR always (either subtly or blatantly) offers more government as the answer. I am sure that the astute people reading and writing on this website all know that more government is not the answer; it is the problem. I hope that the same people also realize that the Neocons, RINOs, and country club Republicans are not the answer either. Unless any particular Republican agrees with us on at least 80% of the issues, it is no better supporting him or her than it is supporting a run-of-the-mill Democrat. In other words: Ron Paul, Marco Rubio, Kelly Ayotte — YES; John McCain, Mitt Romney, George Quincy Bush — NO.

      And of course, taxpayer funding of NPR is unconstitutional and simply outright theft for the Establishment.

      • JIBBS

        FYI, the dems had/have control for 40 plus years of the 80 years you speak about, do some homework !

      • Carlucci

        We used to listen to NPR at the office, because that was the only station that would come through loud and clear. I thought it got very tedious very quickly. I feel the same way about Rush Limbaugh. Had to listen to that idiot because I worked for a guy who loved him. Both stations spewed the same old bilge every day. I finally got a Walkman to tune them out.

        • Denniso

          You can’t seriously compare Limbaugh who literally makes things, up w/ NPR,which has real journalists digging and reporting. Most liberals I know complain that it has become too tepid and fearful of the rightwingers criticism. Limbaugh is probably the single most responsible person in the country for creating the hate and divide between Americans…his entire ploy is to stir up hate and animosity and division,on the way to his big fat bank.

          Karolyn is exactly right,it’s one of the best all around news services we have in the country. The House vote was a joke and waste of time because the bill will go absolutely nowhere..so the rightwing fools just wasted thousands of $$ of the Houses’ time on a symbolic vote to please their tea party backers,all for show.

          • Carlucci

            I wasn’t comparing NPR to Rush Limbaugh. You are inferring that, and jumping to conclusions. I said I didn’t want to listen to either one. It is a matter of taste, not comparison. You said NPR has “real journalists digging and reporting”. Really? I thought they were just as biased and obnoxious as the morons on CNN, CNBC, and Fox.

            I usually get my news from the internet on many different sites.

    • Mick

      karolyn says:
      March 22, 2011 at 7:28 am
      NPR is going nowhere, thank goodness. It’s the only radio station where I can get international news, entertainmednt information, scientific information, local interest news and more! Of course, I know that it would survive without federal funding, especially now that so many consevatives areagainst it – contributions are up! I wonder how many of you have ever listened? I would suspect most judgments are made via others’ views. Despite what your cohorts have told you, NPR does present both sides of the coin on all issues. Conservative callers DO call in and question progressive guests and vice versa. It’s totally open to all.

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      karolyn, If you know that NPR would survive without federal funding than as a good sensible Liberal explain to us why it was funded by tax payer dollars in the first place, wasn’t it a total waste of money

      • Eddie47d

        If NPR is a liberal station as you think it is then it is obvious the right is trying to shut it down. NPR/PBS are open to all and is excellent alternative news and entertainment without being spoon fed commercials. You get education without the usual hype of that is on Fox or MSNBC or even the alphabet stations. The right’s attacks on PBS is short sighted and mostly political maneuvering.You want a free and open press yet you slam those very values in taking down NPR. NPR is like Radio Free Europe to many in the world. This Iranian opposition leader said that is the only outside station that is not filtered or banned. Without NPR they will only get Iranian propaganda stations. With or without government funding I hope it survives for the sake of a free press and the many good programs it brings to the world.

        • Jeep

          For goodness sake ed, get a grip. You libs are all missing the point. Public funding for NPR should end. Period. Personally, I don’t care what political bent NPR has, it is money not well spent. Nor is in constitutional. Period. There are many “programs” and agencies that must go. If it cannot pass constitutional muster, then delete it.

          On a more personal note, I have listned to such shows as Tavis Smiley, and find their racial overtones most distasteful. There are other programs I dislike as well. But, that has little to do with the fact that NPR funding is a symptom of the budget problem. The federal govt spends money that is NOT theirs on projects that do NOT meet constitutional requirements.

          • Jovianus

            So….what constitutional ‘requirements’ does it fail to meet? [this is gonna be a good ranting reply I’m certain :}

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Jeep:

            Ditto!

        • Carlucci

          Great -! Then you should be more than happy to donate to keep it on the air. That’s called free enterprise. Look into it.

          • Eddie47d

            Free Enterprise can be great but more and more it means the person with the most money controls everything.That means they control your life and mine. They tell you what to buy and like robots we buy it. Do you own an I-Phone,cell phone,computer,etc. Sure you do and you wouldn’t leave home without it.Some things are good but are they really necessary? We buy them because they are popular and it becomes a “have to get”. We are those robots when we watch Fox or MSNBC or ABC because of the commercials and the 24/7 news cycle. With PBS you are not intimidated by all those free enterprise gimmicks and you are truly free to think for yourself. Something that is sorely missing in America. PBS is worth keeping.

    • JIBBS

      You must liveon the moon to thick that NPR is the only station with the content you require, and like they said, they don’t need my money. Why don’t you make a donation !

      • karolyn

        I have donated, of course. You tell me where I can find a radio station with the array of information available on NPR. I don’t think you can find a commercial radio station that can compete with the quality of eclectic composition of NPR.

        • Jovianus

          Karolyn…if it doesn’t spew the robotic line of hate, they don’t care. Quality and depth is not their interest. NPR got labelled “liberal” so it’s evil. They don’t listen to NPR, yet they “know” it’s “liberal” because that’s what they’re told. Same with PBS.

          I’d ask them to give a link to something NPR has broadcast to support their labelling…but it would be ignored since pesky facts get in the way of a good rant…

          • Denniso

            Good comment. NPR is liberal in that it really tries to get to the news around the world w/o letting politics color it’s coverage. The rightwing thinks that liberal is the same as socialist or marxist,when it really means broad minded and open to different opinions and thoughts…that’s why liberal is bad or evil to rightwingers,it doesn’t have a rightwing slant. Liberal also means tolerant,so when NPR does a story on gay marriage,for instance,they don’t automatically make a negative judgement about it,they report on the story. Rightwingers want their ‘news’ sources to make moral/religious judgements for them on the issues. That’s not journalism,is it?

          • Karolyn

            Denniso – I believe you’e got it!! Excellent post! Not that they’ll even take it into consideration. They are too narrow and small-minded to ever do that. If Ben Crystal or Bob Livingston or Chip Wood or Rush say it’s so, then it must be so!

          • independant thinker

            I do not give a flying #”(} what political slant NPR does or does not take it should receive NO money from the federal government. Let those who like it support it through their donations.

          • Denniso

            Should the Voice of America radio that broadcasts overseas to indoctrinate other countries receive gov’t(taxpayer)money? I will guess that you favor it wasting your taxes because it pushes American ‘values’ shamelessly on other cultures.

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Karolyn:

      Most conservatives / libertarians, myself included, do not care if NPR exists. Our issue is using the nation’s tax dollars to help fund it. They can survive, or not, on their own just like other radio staions.

      • karolyn

        Other radio stations have commercials and are beholden to their sponsors, so they can’t report any news that would be against one of those sponsors. I can just see somebody with Monsanto as a sponsor trying to report about Monanto’s taking over the world!

    • 45caliber

      karolyn:

      Try BBC. It is better than any American station for such things. It is certainly better than NPR since they don’t have any bone in the fight.

      • karolyn

        I don’t get BBC radio here. I do watch a little BBC TV, though.

    • minnie

      Its totally better that NPR gets defunded, if it is true that NPR does not need taxpayers money then they will survive. Also that wasy Whoever taxpayers Likes NPR than that person will donate to it. That way the taxpayer that does not want to contribute is not force to do it and only the ones that wants to will. I for one do not ever remember listening to that station, I am a hispanic and I think there are so much better staions. Regardless, it is better for our country since we are near bankruptcy. This is good news I am always ready for good news, hope it will pass in the senate. Now adays the poor have cell phones and ipods, computers. Maybe short on groceries but for sure money to party.

    • Southern Patriot

      Karolyn:
      I would certainly not want to see your idea of biased if you think NPR is balanced on its programming. A large percent of the time the guests are liberal to extreme liberal with an ocassional conservative thrown in to appear un-biased. Yes conservative guests do call in but they are usually talking to liberal guests.

      And, yes, I have listened to NPR and few of their programs I liked. I haven’t listened much the past year because after I retired I am not in my car during “drive time”. I seriously doubt thay have changed during the past 14 months.

    • Bob

      Yes, yes, denniso. Toothpaste commercials, automobile commercials, etc., etc. do definitely slant the news. NPR and our government are the only truth in this world. Go smoke another joint.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Trimming the budget is only a start. Next they need to slash away. Of course our great leader has jaunted off to Rio and is not doing his bit to help Congress come together on all this. And to think he’s greatest achievement before becoming president was being a community organizer! This is his field of expertise and he is not even in Washington to do it!

    • Jovianus

      With the past history the Party of No has shown the past two years….they made their bed, now let them figure it out. After all the “no’s’ they’ve yelled the past two years, you’d think they’d have some solutions. Nope…BECAUSE THERE WASN’T ANY REASONABLE ALTERNTIVES TO WHAT THEY WERE SAYING NO TO!

      I applaud Obama for staying out of the fray. The GOP has had two years to come up with alternative solutions. It’s telling that they haven’t any,.

      • 45caliber

        Jovi:

        The GOP is trying to be “bi-partisan”. Big mistake.

        • Jovianus

          The only”bi” the GOP is trying is on Craigslist …

      • lkar

        Jov-anus,
        I assume you mean the 2 years that the party of NO had to take a backseat to the party of YES. The Dems had majorities in both house and senate and failed to pass a budget? I am sure you think of yourself as clever, but dude, wake up already! Both parties are sucking the taxpayer teat. Now when a few stand up and say enough, you label them as a party of NO. We need more people to stand up and say NO! Pass a balanced budget! That means spending cuts and repeal the dam tax cuts.

        • minnie

          One-half the trouble and corruption in this life or should I say in this Administration can be traced to saying YES TOO QUICK, and not saying NO SOON ENOUGH. If you do not stand for something you’ll FALL FOR ANYTHING. As u can c they went yes we can, when they should have asked CAN WHAT? TRUST BUT VERIFY.

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    didnt they say that they didnt need govenment funding? if so let the libs fund it themselves.

    • Jovianus

      The NPR issue is a throw off to get the TPers in line with the bought and paid for GOP mainstream party hacks. It’s the GOP version of “Wag the Dog”…create a fictional crisis or show some ficitonal discrimination against Conservatives…make it into a ‘we versus them’ scenario…demonize the “them” (Americans), and draw attention away from what they are actually doing while feeding the fears and phobias of th robotic ueduacated, easily led robots aka TPers etc.

      Attacks against Americans? Absolutely and without doubt. Dissent is not tolerated either in the bought and paid for faction of the GOP nor by the wacked far right portion. And if the majority of Americans are for something they irrationally believe is wrong, then they will fak, alter and create a fictional lie …

      ACORN…a ficitonal lie brought about by an altered video which was so far removed from reality it bordered on battling with the moon is made of green cheese fairy tale. Iraq? We all know that pack of lies. And now NPR and the latest altered and selectively cut video.

      And before y’all start ballyhooing about the NPR tape being altered and selectively cut…you’d best read tht liberal bastion of news…the Christian Science Monitor, for that is where that story broke.

      So be anti American, be anti turth, be anti US…but don’t dare call yourselves defenders of America and patriots.

      • Rob D

        Jovie,
        With a few exceptions they, dems & repubs, are all a bunch of liars and theives. everything you just stated can be used on the dems as well. AKA we have to pass it to find out whats in it.

        How about standing in the middle and looking at both sides and you will see what i say is true, and it is very easy to see unless you have party line blinders on.

        • Jovianus

          I know Rob…I know. BTW…your use of the selective phrase “AKA we have to pass it to find out whats in it.” was taken out of context and used to mislead what was actually meant …

          • Rob D

            Actually NOT, we now know they hid funding in thier in lieu of funding each department that enacts certain measures of the bill.

          • Rob D

            Take the blinders off

      • bob wire

        Excellent Read Jovianus, well summarized and presented.

        This is indeed the GOP think-tanks “SOP” (standard operational procedure)

        They do this for two reason. It keeps the faithful energized to a perceived threat “launched” from the left ( the bad guys) and that it works! ~ every time!

        “We are under attack” , “man your battle stations!” “The liberal are coming!”

        It’s adversarial posturing that has great appeal to selected groups of individual that harbor strong bias. There will be no resolve or resolution with the devil liberal! They are to be “Crushed”!

        As a child, I was brought up in Church Of Christ dominion of the Christian faith. ~ My first day to church I was only 6 days old and this continued until I was 14 . My family didn’t miss a day of church, even on vacation when traveling, we found a church house on Sunday somewhere to stop. I was not allow to play Little League ball as they played on Wednesday night and that conflicted with church service. ~ baseball was the only ball sport I ever excelled at, I grew up playing with older boys that could throw serious heat.

        I heard about “this devil” until I was mortified! It got to where the mean old devil was everywhere I looked, ~ They taught me to see the devil in everything! I mean it! I was alerted to the fact that the devil was ever present and out to get me! We seen “sin” in patting our foot to music! wearing shorts, dancing!, playing musical instruments! The devil was in the music! He was ever present in your thoughts! You were guilty! Born into “sin” and washed in the blood! Have you accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as the Holy Ghost and your Lord and personal Savior?

        This is the same old process that the GOP is using to farther their cause to their faithful. It’s a Liberal Devil fear! ~ He is everywhere! and he must be opposed! He must be stopped!

        Get behind me Satan! and don’t you push!

        It’d be damned comical if it wasn’t so real!

        • Jovianus

          I’ve cursed many a good curve ball pitcher…told a few to go to hel* several times (as I walked back to the dugout).

  • Wayne Wathen

    What I find kind of interesting and sad is that the so-called deficit cutting Congressmen have yet to touch the $19 billion that they give of our money to oil and gas companies such as Exxon, Chevron, and Shell. Then they still turn out billions in profit and then raise the prices of gas. Let’s see, $5 million from NPR or $19 billion from the rich oil and gas companies. I wonder which will really help reduce the deficit? Yet, only silence.

    • Bob

      Corporate welfare and individual welfare need to be eliminated. It is taking money from one person it belongs to (a taxpayer) and forcibly giving to another it doesn’t belong to (recipient). That is theft – a crime.

    • newspooner

      You make a good point. Government should not be subsidizing any industry or companies, but it also should not put obstacles in the way via socialistic regulation that drives up costs and makes the companies cave in to supporting Big Government as part of the “cost of doing business”. The good thing about the specific oil companies that your reference is that you can buy stock in them and share in the largess that you see them obtaining. The bad thing is that they are still largely in the hands of the same Establishment people who are creating almost all of our problems. One big reason that they are still controlled by the Establishment is that organizations like pension funds, unions, foundations, and other creatures of the Establishment can vote their shares to elect and compensate management. If only INDIVIDUALS could vote their shares, there would be some real competition within the leadership of these companies, and there would not be the exhorbitant salaries and perks for the Establishment management that many of us rightly complain about.

      • Jeep

        Absolutely spot on…Unfortunately, this current administration along with a tightly “controlled” house and senate couldn’t even pass a complete budget last year. So, the current congress is only dealing with discretionary spending for the remainder of this fiscal year. I find it less than amusing that there was very little understanding how that would affect us this year, let alone a public outcry. We’ll still have to wait a few more weeks to see if this current crop in the house has any cajones, and will really cut into the sacred cows of the budget.

      • 45caliber

        I agree. The government shouldn’t be subsidizing various companies, etc. Nor should it subsidize people who refuse to work, foreign countries, charities, etc. All should not only be cut but be stopped completely.

    • Mick

      Wayne Wathen says:
      March 22, 2011 at 7:52 am
      What I find kind of interesting and sad is that the so-called deficit cutting Congressmen have yet to touch the $19 billion that they give of our money to oil and gas companies such as Exxon, Chevron, and Shell. Then they still turn out billions in profit and then raise the prices of gas. Let’s see, $5 million from NPR or $19 billion from the rich oil and gas companies. I wonder which will really help reduce the deficit? Yet, only silence.
      ***************************************

      How about cutting both, as reasonable human beings we all should know that every little drop counts………

    • Rob D

      lets also cut funding for ethenol production, foriegn countries that rail against us, unions, etc., etc.

      The only thing we should be funding from the federal government is the military to protect our borders and our interests. Hows that for slashing the budget and our tax burden.

      • spitfire

        That is how the budget should really be managed, but it never has or will be done that way. Those we empower with our tax money could care less about us, and really want us to support the world.What kind of mess is Libya going to be for us. Just a bunch of Muslims that I do not give a damn about, who would just as soon kill me, because they cannot convert me to Shitlam.

        In stead of protecting us from Muslims, our government shows sympathy for them, and brings them to America by the Thousands. Instead of protecting our values and our society from predators, our government allows our borders to be so porous, you could drive a ship through with out being noticed. It is not about protecting America, it is about sucking us dry of our hard earned money so they can do anything they want, anywhere, anytime.

      • Mick

        Rob,,,
        I’m with you..

    • spitfire

      WHat you don’t understnad Wayne is when we the citizens pressure the politicians to cut spending, they cut the spending to us, and never their pet projects or the rest of the world. The American people most always suffer in a budget cut. There is more money spent outside the country than at home where it is needed. These “jackasses” only care about us when we can pay taxes to empower them or give them a vote. They all lie like rugs, and could not tell the truth to save their sole.

    • newspooner

      Well, Wayne, so far it looks like everyone here who is against taxpayer funding of NPR is also against taxpayer funding of things that you feel are illegitimate. Welcome aboard. Now don’t let the Establishment con you into approving of any of the other wasteful, unconstitutional expropriations of our money to fund other socialist programs.

  • Howard Roark

    In Constitutional law there is a term called setteled law.what this means is that when SCOTUS rules on the meaning of the Constirution and then in a following decision rules again that the Constitution means the same thing that it previously ruled that the meaning is setteled. If the court then in a third decision again rules that the Constitution means what it ruled in the original decision it becomes very setteled law.

    SCOTUS in three decisions have ruled that it is unconstitutional to take money from citizens and give it to a special individual or group.

    In “Loan association vs. Topeka” the court ruled that “when Government takes money from one group of citizens and gives it to another, even though it is called taxation it is theft none the less.

    Inj US vs. Butler the court ruled that “the Constitution has never been understood to mean that government can take money from one citizen and give it to another.” the reason being basically that in the Constitution’s provision to provide for the GENERAL welfare the word general means all or nearly all. the court said “that when money is spent for the general welfare it must benefit all or nearly all of the citizens equally.”

    In Stewart Machine company vs. Davis the court for the third time ruled that the Federal Govt. can not constitutionally expend money on any sort of thing it decides on but that the expenditure must meet the test of benefiting all americans equally.

    Stewart machine Co. by the way was the the decision that upheld Helvering vs Davis in which SCOTUS ruled that Social Security was Constitutional. you must keep in mind though that Helvering was decided under the threat of Roosevelts Court packing scheme. the chief justice said that the decision was made under duress and that the court ruled against the Constitution in order to save the court. (anything legal done under duress is normally null and void)

    anyways; assuming that Social Security and Medicare are constitutional because as the court said they both meet the guideline of benefiting all americans, here is a partial list of expenditures that benefit only a small part of society and are therefor unconstitutional

    Public radio, food stamps, government housing, wick, college grants for the children of low income americans, school lunch for the children of low income americans, the earner income tax (given to people who paid no tax) etc. etc. etc.

    • Jovianus

      “Public radio, food stamps, government housing, wick, college grants for the children of low income americans, school lunch for the children of low income americans, the earner income tax (given to people who paid no tax) etc. etc. etc.”

      And those do not benefit all Americans how?

      Re-read the cases you cited…then read the citations where those cases were used as a basis for subsequent rulings. You’re off base applying them to the programs you want to eliminate using that reasoning….

      Thank you

      • Jeep

        Even Robin Hood was a thief…in no uncertain terms. Good intentions, do not make for equitable outcomes. Period. If you want to support the “poor” of America, and feed the children, then feel free to do so. It is not a constitutional role of govt to provide for those who do not have. However, I feel it is a personal responsibility of citizens to assist their fellow citizens in a time of need. But, I suppose your over-reaching need to help includes forced taxation to provide funding that is a personal, not governmental responsibility.

        Robin Hood should have gotten a job, given to charity and donated time to help his neighbor; instead, he took a shortcut by stealing from the “rich”. In a similar case, you would prefer the shortcut of “legal theft”, otherwise known as taxes, instead of taking personal responsibility for your neighbors’ welfare.

        • Carlucci

          The church used to provide what the govt. calls welfare, but when churches did it, they did what they could to motivate people to go back to work. It was just a temporary thing to tide someone over until they could get back on their feet.

      • JIBBS

        Are you that blind?, if you want to fund welfare and all the other crap, use your money, not mine!!

        • Jovianus

          Typical TPer and GOP robot….use everyone else’s money and you receive the benefits of a free ride. Jeesh ….

    • Eddie47d

      By your assertion Howard we should totally defund NASA and all space exploration. Since there are several folks who thinks it takes away from other needed programs. Yet NASA does provide the expertise for launching satellites which we all depend on. On the other hand some of you say government should only be used for defense of our nation. Sounds good on paper and in your minds yet those defense dollars have mostly been used to wage wars in other nations. It many cases billions of our tax dollars have been wasted in these foreign adventures. A strong military is not giving us the security for our homeland.Dividends from these wars are miniscule and the loss of lives has only brought sorrow to us and to other countries.I don’t always trust those who advocate for a strong military/defense for they seem to get us in trouble. They abuse the Constitution much more than NPR and I believe these PBS stations actually support our freedoms and without the senseless deaths.

  • Raggs

    I’m glad the GOP is at least trying to do what is right.

    And why does obama need the congress to pass a budget? Can’t obama get his approval from the UN like he does everything else?

    • Mick

      Raggs says:
      March 22, 2011 at 8:49 am
      I’m glad the GOP is at least trying to do what is right.

      And why does obama need the congress to pass a budget? Can’t obama get his approval from the UN like he does everything else?

      **********************************************
      Ohhhh !! Raggs,,, You do have a way with words,,,
      I’ve been reading many of your comments and I must say, we need more people like you for American to regain it’s place in the world…
      Good job……………..

      • Raggs

        Mick… Well thank you!… Glad that I can do my part at least for now I can express my thoughts.

        • Eddie47d

          Raggs; While I’m against our intrusions into Iraq and Libya and the need for budget cuts: these attacks against NPR is only taking away another venue for freedom of the press and the dissemination of ideas.You should be a champion of PBS and it’s mostly neutral programming. If you watch certain Fox or MSNBC programs you get commentators who outright lie and bend information every which way. Sure commercials pay for their stations and these outlets should be allowed to exist.It’s difficult to stop any slanderous rancor on the alphabet stations and that includes FOX and anything goes on the rest of the cable stations. Yet you take on and want to destroy tiny PBS which is a blessing to many. Yes they do get corporate funding but those entities are cutting back also which means defunding will slowly drain these outlets. That in turn will lead to losses and a form of censorship.

          • Jovianus

            CNN last night had the reporter who was “held as a human shield’ in Khaddafy’s home…as reported by FOX. He lambsted FOX saying it was total fiction and propaganda expected of a dictatorship like Khaddafy…not of a free press.

            He all but called FOX deliberate liars. He did say anyone wanting the truth should watch other stations.

          • Raggs

            Eddie… I don’t care anything about watching Pee-Wee herman on PBS.
            The name alone should tell you something….

          • karolyn

            Pee Wee Herman hasn’t been on PBS in, what, 20 years?

          • Jovianus

            Karolyn…do you really think they know what they’re talking about? They are told by their controllers it’s “liberal”, so therefore they believe it’s “liberal”..and thus the enemy in their mindsets

          • Eddie47d

            That’s a good one Raggs.LOL

          • independant thinker

            “They are told by their controllers it’s “liberal”, so therefore they believe it’s “liberal”..and thus the enemy in their mindsets”

            substitute conservative for liberal and this describes you perfectly jovianus

    • Al Sieber

      Right Raggs, or he just signs a executive order like he wants to do against the 2nd amendment.

  • 45caliber

    It would be nice to see it done. But most of the House is expecting the Sentate to – ah, – sort of forget to pass this.

  • bob wire

    It’s strange how someone can be so sensitive to some data and insensitive to another, how one can be referred to as programing or simple data.

    I enjoy it all and the freedom to select and choose, I wouldn’t expect a C&W station to play Hard Rock, but Southern Rock, but both are simple a spin-off of Rhythm & Blue which originated from the Blues and the Mississippi Delta where over time met the influence of the Irish mountain people and their wonderful string instruments.

    Purity does indeed have it’s place but it not much for adaptation or growth or offering something new. Bach may be timeless, but I can’t stay connected day in and day out.

    I enjoy knowing of the nuance of information, the small things that NPR provides like no other. The strange “notes”(ideas) does not frighten me.

    I don’t mind paying for it and supporting it.

    Much like an Art Museum that tax money helps pay for, few visit it while everyone helps pay for it. ~ Not Everyone having the same interest.

    Okay! no NPR for you! You are getting your way, see? Our system of government does work.

    • Jovianus

      The way i look at it is…if you don’t like it, then don’t turn the dial to it. Block the PBS channel off your TV as well.

      Then if it’s really bothering you people are getting some straight stories and news, do what the conservatices in Kansas did with school boards and the state education agency, take it over with thir own and go back to the “Flat Earth and Creationism is true” Stone Age.

      • spitfire

        Who the hell believes in a “flat earth”?? Get a grip, and hope that Christianity is wrong, and there will be no judgment day. It is written, that Christians will be persecuted in the final days. I wonder!

        • Jovianus

          Spitfire…the “Flat Earth” concept derives directly from Christianity and doctrine of the Church dating back before the Crusades and up through the 15th Century. Prior to the Church rampaging and snuffing people who dared discuss science which did not conform to doctrine, what we take for granted today was widely accepted in terms of the beginning sciences and geography.

        • bob wire

          The jest is. ~ that Kansas has regressed in search of some perceived “purity”

          This perceived “purity” is just that! “Perceived” by some that wish to offer dominion.

          Judgment Day is perceived!

          I perceive it as a metaphor while some take it literally.

          So that leave you to threaten me with “Judgment Day”, to burn in hells fire and damnation.

          Why must you have dominion to claim for your own? Where you not told, in my fathers house there are many mansions?

          Why must you attack free will so? Is it not enough that you do as you please , think as you please?

      • Rob D

        Truth, Justice, and the American way, for GOD and Country.

        I now know where your beleifs come from, because there is no god it is all for one and all for one (not a type-o). Again take the liberal party blinders off Jovie and and look at things in moral realistic way.

        By the way i am not picking on you today i just think your comments call for a retort.

      • Jeep

        Personally, I do turn it off, change the channel, etc. But, then, much to my chagrin, April 15th rolls around again and I am reminded that a portion (however small) of my taxes pays for programming that I personally disagree with. Yeah, I have heard that argument before, “If you don’t like it turn it off. Now, give me a nickel to pay for it.”

        Many Americans are tired of the lassiez-faire attitude towards taxes and taxation to pay for liberal pet projects.

        • Eddie47d

          Jeep; I think of my tax dollars going to waste in foreign expansionism and military adventurism. Unlike you I think it is a Conservative and Liberal problem. The right got their Iraq War and the left/right got their Afghanistan War and the left with prodding from the right got their Libyan War. Big AG is mostly Conservative and gets mucho tax dollars. Do you sit and think about that? Do you loose sleep at night worrying about Corporate tax breaks or outlandish corporate pay? Then there is the pity party the Left has on welfare recipients who have been on the dole for generations. The right has no clue on how to stop the big tax breaks and the left can be just as clueless. This is a left/right problem and neither side wants to admit it. I know I support PBS but look at this as a freedom of information issue and some decent programming that could be forced off the air. If they need to tighten their belt to help the economy then that is fine for we all have to do that. Will you force our military to tighten their budget and stop wasting billions? Are we on the side of America or only on the side that benefits our left/right point of view?

      • 45caliber

        Jovi:

        You actually expect the GOVERNMENT to give you straight stories? Wow, you have a lot of faith in someone. Too bad it’s wasted.

        • Jovianus

          I expect NPR and PBS to give a straighter version than the government, MSNBC or any other news outlet. And certainly all of those are heads and shouldrs above FOX McNews for accuracy and truth.

          • independant thinker

            As long as NPR and PBS are dependent on the government for their existance they WILL be a mouthpiece for the government for they dare not go against the ones who provide for their existance.

          • karolyn

            Independent – You are sooooooooo wrong. The percentage of the budget coming from the fed is so small. Do you ever listen? I’m asking all that question, and haven’t been getting any answer, which means to me that you don’t listen, so you really don’t know what you’re talking about.

  • http://mine d:-)

    This is a schill, a smoke and mirror distraction. They need to focus on defunding obamacare, they are getting off track. They also need to audit the Fed Reserve, terminate this thing, creature from jekyll island, and get back to the gold standard!!

    • bus

      I agree, they make these symbolic votes with the knowledge that the Senate will stop the action. Lets see if they still have the nuts and bolts after 2012 when they hopefully have the power to make some real changes…

    • 45caliber

      The only problems with getting back on the gold standard are: 1) there isn’t enough gold to cover our money out now and 2) the government sold all the gold some years ago to finance some Congressman’s wet dream. Oh, and a lot of it went into various Congressmen’s private accounts…

  • Howard Roark

    To jovianus:
    The only way that the expendutures I have mentioned benefit all americans is that it may make them feel good emotionally. other than that these programs monitarily benefit only small percentages of the people. Food stamps for example only benefit about thirteen percent of the piopulation.
    Congressman James Clyborn when recently asked by retired federal judge Napolitano where he got the constitutional authority to expend money on Obamacare laughingly said “most everything congress does is unconstitutional.
    Obama care does not in any way benefit all or nearly all americans. for starters when it was enacted the vast majority of us already had health insuranse which we pay forand still pay for. In spite of Obamas phoney numbers those of us with insurance are now going to have to pay more to cover those people who will receive a benefit for little or nothing from their own pockets. i personally have already seen a hike in the premium that I pay. the omly people that will benefit from Obama care are those that will live of the sweat of others.
    If you are really concerned about these people Jovianus you can certainly voluntairly give your money for their care.

    • Jovianus

      Well Howard, I’d suggest then you visit a 3rd World Country, find middle class neighborhoods (they’ll be difficult to locate but walk through the slums and eventually you’ll come upon one or two..if you’re still alive)…examine the concrete walls with shards of glass stuck on the top. Examine closely…because you’ll be wanting to copy it if you had you’re way.

      But then, having those programs doesn’t benefit you or society in any way does it …

      • Raggs

        jovianus… What you describe is life in a dictatorship as of now the US is not such but may be heading in that direction.. Taking from the middle class and giving to the poor does not eliminate the lower class it merely creates a nanny system.

      • Mick

        Jovianus

        With all the help those 3rd world countries had over decades they should have learned something on how to survive they should be smart enough to take lessons from the countries who are actually functioning good enough to bail their a$$es out on a regular basis but then the gravy train would stop so just like the welfare recipients they do nothing so they can use the POOR excuse to continue collecting.

      • spitfire

        I have been in third world countries, and you are full of B.S. If you look, you can find a middle class, and a high class. There is however, a very stark difference between the poor and middle class.

        • Jovianus

          If you look Spitfire…if you look. Here…you need to look to find slums. And you’re sayng the walls topped with glass shards surrounding such housing is false?

          • Jeep

            Jovi, you make our case for us…thanks. You are right, there is a contrast between what America considers “poor” and what is really “poor” elsewhere in the world. Here, not having two tv’s makes one “poor”. In other countries not having any food makes one poor. Hmmm…So, tell me again, why are we so concerned about giving out food stamps and welfare checks to people in America? So they can get another tv?

          • Mick

            Jeep says:
            March 22, 2011 at 10:12 am
            Jovi, you make our case for us…thanks. You are right, there is a contrast between what America considers “poor” and what is really “poor” elsewhere in the world. Here, not having two tv’s makes one “poor”. In other countries not having any food makes one poor. Hmmm…So, tell me again, why are we so concerned about giving out food stamps and welfare checks to people in America? So they can get another tv?
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
            Jeep ……… BINGO Jeep !!!
            And don’t forget the cells,,,can’t afford food according to them but certainly have many cells floating around………poor My A$$ !!

          • Jovianus

            Well…if the case you want made is you want the US to denigrate to 3rd world status…you’ve made it without my assistance.

        • 45caliber

          spitfire:

          There is indeed a big difference between the poor and middle class in third world countries. I’d even go so far as to say there is NO middle class.

          The real difference is because all revolt comes through the middle class. So most third world countries eliminate the middle class and keep the poor as poor as possible so they are more concerned about their next meal than the bad laws.

          And I believe that is one of the major goals of the rich in the US.

          • Jovianus

            Wow..hell froze over. I agree wholeheartedly with what 45 wrote…

      • JIBBS

        WE don’t live in a third world nation, so your comment bears no weight, unless you are talking about what obama wants us to be.

        • Eddie47d

          Then stop attacking middle class union workers as union thugs. You disparage hard working people and create enemies by trying to take away what they bargained for. Make politicians more responsible for bloated pension funds without the mean spirited name calling.Maybe as this weaves through various states it will be more civil on both sides.

          • 45caliber

            eddie:

            “Then stop attacking middle class union workers as union thugs. You disparage hard working people and create enemies by trying to take away what they bargained for. Make politicians more responsible for bloated pension funds without the mean spirited name calling.Maybe as this weaves through various states it will be more civil on both sides.”

            ————————————

            So they did bargain for those things. They were bargaining with people they put there to bargain with for money that neither side owned. I get offended when I’m told some politician “helped” me by spending my money. When they bargain for funds that don’t exist, then I object to losing all my money to pay for someone else to take things easy. And, since I do, I don’t have a problem with taking away what they bargained for. I’m also glad I live in a “Right-to-Work” state.

          • Raggs

            eddie… The ONLY thing you bargained for is taking more money out of my pocket.

          • Eddie47d

            They,the American workers ask for raises and bargain for better working conditions whether union, government workers or non-union. They all has bosses or controllers so go to them if you have a complaint. They are the ones who approved the deals. If these bosses can’t see the forest through the trees then maybe they shouldn’t be running a company or government operation.Fire them or dock their pay not the lower paid workers.

          • Denniso

            Does 45caliber(silly name)think that cops and firefighters laying their lives on the line everytime they answer a call are ‘taking it easy’? Would he volunteer to try to teach 30 kids everday w/ relatively low pay and little respect?

            If the rightwing nuts want to quit paying taxes so that we can pay cops,firefighters,road workers and teachers, and then handle crime,house fires and education entirely on their own, then good luck dummies.

      • Carlucci

        Wait a minute – I saw brick and concrete walls with shards of glass embedded in them in the city of London. I don’t think that’s just a third world thing.

        • Jovianus

          Ummmmm…I wouldn’t know for a fact, but I’m assuming London wouldn’t have such walls for one reason, and it’s the same as here…lawsuits. Perhaps local laws as well, but certainly fear of lawsuits.

          • 45caliber

            The only place in the world where lawsuits are common is the U.S. We have 3% of the world’s population – and about 60% of the world’s population of lawyers. Some American law firms are trying to push Europe into suing but so far it hasn’t amounted to much.

    • s c

      Howard, FOOD STAMP FRAUD is but one issue that our retarded pond scummers in Washington have ignored for many years. It’s another form of printing money that doesn’t exist (ala the Fed). It is yet another LIE perpetrated by vermin that talk about honesty and morality all day long.
      But, when push comes to shove, they see honesty and morality as mere words. All issues are means to an
      end for them. Only when people understand that paying the bills for programs that feed on sloth, waste and corruption can a taxpayer KNOW that he’s dealing with scum. Then he know sthose programs must be gutted and eliminated.
      Some useful idiots make careers out of certain issues. Illegal immigration, FOOD STAMP FRAUD,
      money laundering and “collective bargaining” (ala comrade Lenin) are but a few. Those subhumans became famous because of what THEY did TO America – not because of what they did FOR America.

      • Eddie47d

        SC;You’ve seldom been fair honest or moral with you’re one sided picture book. I’m sure food stamps are being abused so there is no argument there. Then you go for the “comrade Lenin” crap and “subhumans”. Cheap shots are one of your specialties and you market it well. How about “comrade Koch” who pollutes in every project he owns or attacks his workers while stuffing his own wallet. I see shades of Halliburton in their workings. Always over charging and draining the government well.

        • s c

          O ignorant one, your history ‘teachers’ might take pride in the fact that they turned loose another potential useful idiot in America, but it’s nothing to be proud of, chum. You’ve had years to learn and admit that unions and collective bargaining are specific tools that are part and parcel of LENIN
          and his half-assed philosophy. Like tree, like “acorn,” eh?
          If ‘denial’ isn’t your middle name, it should be, comrade. Why pretend to be any kind of a student of history (or anything else) when you spread ignorance and misinformation by glossing over the effects of collective bargaining and unions and their roots in America? Got any plans for sending relatives to Haavid or Chicago?

          • Jovianus

            SC….by perhcance do you belong to a “Minuteman” group?

          • Eddie47d

            SC; Well Ms queen of denial if I’m in the Lenin camp then you must be a henchwoman for the Argentina Generals. So go through your ridiculous daily rants if it pleases you.

  • darrin erickson

    make no mistake–there’s a full-blown revolution brewing in this country. we’re in the early stages, but temperature is rising. soon, it will reach a boiling-point. when it does, this country, as we have come to know it (weak, broke, politically-correct, pathetically liberal) will cease to exist. some don’t or refuse to read the writing on the wall–macht nichts. then again, some wouldn’t recognize poop if it was smeared into their face. this npr-thing is just a start. americans have had it with this liberalism permeating our society. npr has been ignoring or trying to write off the tea-party movement from day 1. but, it’s growing in strength & support. wait until the next major attack on american soil, as these muslim-nuts are relentless. god forbid it happens, but most americans are in agreement that it will indeed occur. when it does, think americans will listen to the liberals, who try to convince us that we shouldn’t pick on all muslims and that it’s just a few “bad apples”? guess again. watch the gains the tea-party realizes at that point. the frustrating, infuriating and tragic part is that hundreds, perhaps thousands of americans will have to die first before we finally admit what has to be admitted–the very presense of muslims residing in america poses a threat to national security.

    • spitfire

      Excellent post darrin, and very accurate indeed.

    • bob wire

      of course there is revolution coming! and someday you and I will die, but not today.

      So we should waste our present in some attempt to save our future?

      Haha ! ~

      Thinning the herd is a standard practice, done by man, done by nature.

      Don’t pee on yourself.

      Enjoy today, it’s the only day you got.

      I’m not real keen on Drama that serve little purpose but to excite like a roach on Raid, running around in tight circles.

      We create systems that address problems, present and future so we might enjoy the day. The system doesn’t need drama, it’s purpose in to neutralize drama.

      You must have faith! without faith, we are little more then a roach on raid.

      How do you acquire Faith? should be the question being asked.

      If you haven’t “Faith” by now it’s doubtful you ever will.

      Peace comes with Faith, are you at Peace?

      • JIBBS

        If you think about it, Faith will not save the day. If you don’t put money in the bank, you get nothing out….just as in life, if you choose not to work, you starve. And NO, I will not support YOU, or any other lazy bastard welfare king/queen.

        • bob wire

          Well Sir, “faith” is a simple word and it’s not hard to “think” you understand what the word means.

          But it’s clear by your posting, you have missed the mark and failed to have peace in your heart or have “faith”

          You seem to understand “faith” in much the same way as Homer Simpson,

          “Stupid Gravity!”

          You must first hold the capacity for “faith” in much the same way one would “love”.

          Many hold no capacity for matters of love and faith, many hold small capacity, and you know that it is so that SOME peoples capacity for love and faith is huge!

      • karolyn

        No one at peace would be cursing and screaming and denigrating people on a message board. I think we have our answer. Maybe people who spit vitriol and have hate in their hearts are only motivated by that being the only thing that gets them up in the morning.

  • Howard Roark

    Jovianus I have visited and lived in third world countrys. the reason that other societys have not prospered as the US has is because their Governments were not founded on the same principals of the US.

    The basic premis of the founders is that each of us has unailable rights. You will notice in the opening paragraph of the Declaration of independence.(the underpining of the Constitution) that we have the right to persue happiness. no one is guarenteed success. each of us has the right to own property and to work and live from the sweat of our own brow. it is impossible for socialism and liberty to exist at the same time.

    to answer your quection the answer is NO! these programs do not benefit myself the vast majority of other americans or society in any way. thats what the charities are for.

    you may have noticede that over the decades the Chinese economy has done better and better while the US economy has fallen further and further in the tank. the reason is simple. the Chinese have became more and more capitalist,while the US has become more and more Communist. (Socialism is Communism by installment)

    • bob wire

      “you may have noticed that over the decades the Chinese economy has done better and better while the US economy has fallen further and further in the tank. ”

      Yes I’ve noticed that! I’ve also noticed that 5% of American own 65% of the wealth! and the number of wealthy US citizens has risen to include some some 400 families!

      • JIBBS

        Stop buying 60″ flat screens, you don’t need a new car every 3 years, the lastest cell phone and so on, if you stop trying to keep up with Jones, you can have a great life and money to buy what you need and some nice little extra’s. Most people spend like their the government…as in money they don’t have(credit cards) then go bankrupt and the rest of us pay for their FU&^ ups.

        • Eddie47d

          I do agree Jibbs

      • Jovianus

        I’d give China about one more year…maybe two…and then they’ll begin having massive issues with the economic model they’re trying to utilize. Demographics, modern communications (‘net), modernization of labor organizing, international monetary policies, and built in internal pressures.

        BTW…the US debt China holds? Not a worry. They can’t let us go down without gong down with us. They are tied to us just as much now as we are tied to them. They should have diversified the portfolio some…

        China isn’t who we should be worrying about…Inida is the one we should be watching out for.

      • 45caliber

        bob wire:

        You are right; I’m not in the top 5% of the population money-wise.

        And I’m envious of that too. I would absolutely LOVE to be wealthy! But at the same time, I don’t attempt to steal part of their money to get richer myself. Nor do I attempt to live like them by borrowing (banks and/or credit cards) so I can buy the same thing they have and then fostering off that debt on others since I can’t pay it myself. And I don’t expect them to feel sorry for me and hand it over.

        At one time I had a choice. I could make at least a quarter of a million a year by working about 80 hours or more a week or I could earn about $35,000 a year and spend time with my family. I chose my family – and I’ve never regretted it. But it would be nice to have that money …

        • karolyn

          45 – Glad you chose family. Life is too short. My friend used to tell her mother she never saw a U-Haul being pulled behind a hearse.

        • bob wire

          I know what you mean 45, me too!

          but I would like to have one of those 42″ inch flat screens!

          Me and my bad gall bladder deserve one! hahah! maybe someday.

          I’m a cash and carry sort of guy, my newest truck is 98 model.

          I’ve been up and down many times, at 62, the middle is good for me, my life is good. I’ve done everything I ever wanted to do with one exception,
          ride a bull elephant,an old tusker, just as fast as he can run, a knocking down trees and tearing things up along the way.

    • Eddie47d

      Howard; So that is the truth as you see it at least from your point of view. We could say “capitalism goes “hand in hand with greed”. The capitalist and liberty work together only so far and then they bite off their own head.Thus leaving the worker and the country to flounder like a fish in a shallow pond. Those freedom loving capitalists also know how to manipulate the system. They mass their loot and stuff it in off shore accounts and then live happily ever after. While there isn’t much of a happy ending for those left behind. Sure we all have to earn our own way but those corporate pirates have taken advantage of that same Constitution with their “Pursuit of Happiness”.

      • Raggs

        If thats true then why does obama and soros have billions of tax dollars invested in petro-bra?

        • Eddie47d

          Maybe they are capitalists after all. Now that would be a hoot and would burst your bubble. It will be hard to call them leftists if they are out there making millions and putting their money in off shore economies. That would make them corporate twins of all the other companies who have shipped jobs overseas. Gotta love all that “free” enterprise floating around.

  • Raggs

    So why does anyone need government ( controlled ) funded radio or T.V. anyway?
    The government doesn’t even have a budget ( I suppose thats W’s fault ).

  • http://com i41

    Edee, still talking like a soros socialisty democrat moron. Employers sure as hell don’t have to guarentee anyone a job, that crap comes from the beleif that once you have a job the employee is a permant parasite on the employer. The reason the pond keeps shrinking is government regulations and marxist/communist beleiving every that is a problem or a struggle, someone else will dust you off and change your nappy. If most people don’t have a drive to have their own business or do something by themselves, definitely must be government educated commune idoits. Don’t know why the House isn’t ending all the worthless government programs that pay wards of the government money to do nothing.Onumnuttts wants the USA to be dictator run country with nothing being owned by private businesses or pivate ownership of anything, down to the food you are allowed to buy and eat. The dems including the marxist muslim moron in Cheif, cann’t figure out why banks are sitting on piles of money. Check out the 2800 new regulation on any transactions and government meddling on any company or private money matters.

    • Eddie47d

      You betcha the banks are sitting on piles of money and once again are scheming to control the economy. They are using old tactics and finding new ones to make more money off those piles of money.The same with credit card companies after reform. The both have found loopholes and are taking advantage of them. More “Men in Black” suits ready to pounce on unsuspecting consumers. Hide you wallet and run fast for the banksters aren’t done yet.

  • Raggs

    I think obama and Q-daffy make a good pair.

    • Raggs

      Well, you have to admit they are both Quackers… :)

      • Carlucci

        LOL – !! Does that mean when they fly upside down they have a quack up?

        • bob wire

          no ! that’s blonds and have nasty crack up.

  • http://PersonalLibertyBroadcast Sylvia Meyers

    NPR has committed an egregious breach of confidence with their most recent controversial statements. NPR does not even pretend to deliver unbiased news reports. Some would assert the secret taping of Mr. Schiller was unfair,but guess what? Attitudes come down from the top. Mr. Schiller’s statements spoke volumes about where the leadership of NPR is standing right now and it is not with fair news articles.

    • Karolyn

      Do you ever listen?

      • Raggs

        Hey look here karolyn!

        If you choose to support NPR so be it I don’t give a shit.. Understand that when I have to pay for it I then do give a shit!

        NPR is nothing but a liberal machine and I care not about paying for a political view on ANY public station!

        DO YOU HAVE THAT!.. IF you missed it OK then F*** NPR!

      • Raggs

        OK maybe you don’t and never will get it..

        The F’in unions do the same thing… ya know they say pitty me pitty me!

        Nobody can fix the stupid!

        Got it now?

        • Denniso

          Karolyn is civil, and you sound ill…

  • Raggs

    I’m pissed…

    When did this country step in a pit that is so low as to use a fellow man as an excuse for self gain?

    When did you lose your values that God gave you?.. What was the price that you paid?

    • Eddie47d

      Raggs; Well,You gave your 30 pieces of silver to corporate pirates and the military industrial complex. Should we give a Sh*t? Sleep well tonight!

      • Raggs

        Oh come on Mr.Ed.
        You gave too and I would suspect not by your choice or for your cause unless someone else had to foot the bill.

        • Eddie47d

          Back at ya.

  • chuckb

    what will bill moyers do if npr loses their funding? this guy is the liberal god of all gods, i’m sure there are sponsors standing in line to sponsor the garbage of hate this guy spews out. i always thought russia sponsored npr, of course i haven’t listened to it since the seventies. even then i wrote and called the congress to stop funding this liberal garbage.

    • Denniso

      Chuckb,you’re losing your head w/ emotionalism. Moyers was never on NPR but he had a couple of the best informative shows on PBS…shows that included perspectives from both right and left. He has been retired for a year or two and was never considered a ‘god’,unlike the ditto heads reverence for their god,limbaugh.

      You make the same mistake of uninformed people,having said you never listened to NPR since the ’70s,you clearly don’t know what they did then. How can you condemn something you only know about through hearsay? I listen to,read and watch rightwing stuff before I think I know enough to criticize them. That’s the only way to know what you’re talking about,and to not be just a reactionary.

      • Denniso

        I forgot, Moyers NEVER spewed anything like hate,as he was a model of decorum. Chuckb,you’ve confused the left and right. The left tries too hard to get along and it’s the right that spews hate and vitriol. Why was it mostly the rightwing who were on the defensive after the Gabrielle Giffords shooting,all screaming that their violent talk had nothing to do w/ it?

        • chuckb

          denniso, my mistake. like i said, i haven’t listened to pbs or npr if there is a difference, since the seventies and i can remember them being very anti american especially bill moyers, this was during the vietnam war.. his idea of america is not mine.
          did the right wing advocates have something to do with giffords shooting?
          denniso, remember rush is right.

          • Denniso

            Do you really follow Limbaugh?

        • libertytrain

          Denniso – excuse me re your “Why was it mostly the rightwing who were on the defensive after the Gabrielle Giffords shooting,all screaming that their violent talk had nothing to do w/ it?”

          DENNISO YOU were the very first person to post regarding the shooting and you blamed the right before any facts were even known. While you may have forgotten I have not.

          • Denniso

            Forgotten? Why would I forget? The rightwingers were on the defensive because they know they are the most guilty and culpable in creating a violent context in our political discussions. Sure some Dems have followed suite,but the vast majority has come from the ‘lock and load’ group…’2nd ammendment solutions’ crap from Sharon Angle.

          • libertytrain

            Denniso you were out pointing your finger before anyone could speak about anything regarding the incident. So lib as well as predictable of your type. So quick to point that big finger and blame — you lost any decency and/or credibility with that move.

          • Denniso

            You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to imagine that violent talk and demonizing your opponent, and calling people traitors,communists,unamerican,and more,can trigger the unstable into violence. If you can’t figure that out,well…

            For the record,all violent talk and imagery from any side should be shut down,but if you also can’t see that most of it comes from the rightwing, then you’re just biased and therefore blind to any objectivity.

          • libertytrain

            dear Lord – Denniso – Really open your ears, and eyes. It’s coming from all sides – and with Giffords – your typing fingers were giddy like a little girl to point out that it had to be the Right.

  • Raggs

    Once upon a time the news was something that informed and taught.
    Throw the government into the picture and now you have a one-sided story.. Add the unions to that and you have a lolipop syndrome society.. Need I go further?

    So now you have been taught not to think for yourself so pitty me pitty me.

  • Carlucci

    I think it is called a pity party. At least that’s what my minister says at church.

    • Eddie47d

      What! FOX News has a church and Glenn Beck is the minister? LOL

      • Raggs

        ed.. I would say something but I figure it took you all day to come up with that response.

    • Raggs

      Oh carl.. I’m not stupid.

  • bob wire

    let’s face it guys, it’s tit for tat.

    The DNC wanted to muzzle “Hate Radio”

    this is the response we got for trying.

    It’s no more complicated then that.

    They have demonized NPR and currently there is not enough juice on the hill to stop it. Much like Walker’s off sides kick, they have foxed us out of some yardage.

    This is what happens when Americans fail to show up for middle term elections. Things turn into Bubba’s play house.

    The people that did show up, run things! as it should be.

    We reap what we sow. If you expect a harvest, you must work for it, you can’t just assume a harvest by calender.

    Trust me on this, this tit for tat will not end with NPR.

    This is a major step in putting “Hate Radio” out of business.

  • chuckb

    bob wire, the problem you liberals have with talk radio is, people don’t listen to the liberal view or their analysis since it is usually wrong. the liberal view cannot afford it’s self, if it could there would be no reason for the government to support it.
    why do you think rush is so successful? he lets the left kill itself, his program is based on the liberal news, he points out the fallacy of the left wing and the bias of their reporting, also he’s very intelligent. you and others of your belief call him a liar and all sorts of descriptive names, however, i haven’t heard any of you producing evidence to prove him wrong. nobody is perfect in their reporting, and i believe he is right about 98% of the time.
    you call it hate radio, i call your liberal remarks hateful, when you guys can prove him wrong, do it. so far there’s been very little proof coming from the liberal left if any.

    • karolyn

      Rush Limbaugh may not be “wrong”, but his apporoach is! He is a hate-monger. We need more cooperation and cohesiveness in this country, not more devisiveness. Chuck, NPR does not bait people, nor slander people, nor promote devisiveness. It provides information, whether of a political nature or of an educational nature. Limbaugh and those of his kind don’t educate, they incite. Not everyone who listens to or watches public media can afford to support it. The service they provide should be available to all people. I have been asking conservatives here if they even have listened to NPR. I don’t listen at night, but I know that during the day, the reporting is fair – both sides are represented in debates, and there is neve any mudslinging. Diane Rheem on NPR is a paragon of journalistic ethics. She’s been around a long time, at 73, and is able to carry on a civil discourse, while providing time for all comers to speak. Science Friday is a wonderful show providing up-to-date information on science news. I know much of the info can be gleaned from the net; however, I’m sure there are many people like me who like to listen and learn as well as sit in front of a keyboard and search. The entertainment shows, like the game shows on the weekends, are hilarious and people on both sides of the aisle are fodder for jokes. Of course, I don’t think anybody would knock the “Car Guys” on the weekends. They are great fun and a font of automotive info. I sinerely don’t understand why you guys hate public media so much. How much does it take out of your pocket – 25 cents? Give me a break!

      • Denniso

        Limbaugh has no education worth mentioning…he makes up almost everything he rants about…he isn’t supported by his listeners…rightwing corporate sponsors buy ‘advertising’ and don’t advertise but instead produce his little skits mocking or demeaning people and groups…I seldom hear real ads on his show that would mean local support. He’s a total fraud who has been made a multi millionaire by big rightwing backers who are using him to push their message and demonize those who are a threat to their corporate agenda.

        I have a brother who loves the guy,and my brother isn’t dumb,yet I can’t help be surprised that anyone w/ an intellect can stomach the lies,propoganda,smearing and hate that flows from his mouth everyday.

        My theory on people who love the fraud is that he gives them permission to hate,mock and demonize other humans and Americans,something they can’t do in everday life because it’s considered unacceptable and rude. He hates environmentalists,gays,Democrats,liberals,strong women, and he openly says it everyday. There is no doubt at all that most of his listeners are full of hate, and he lets them feel it and express it every time they turn him on.

        He’s not actually very smart but he is clever and has learned the tricks of a true propogandist..fast talking and glib.

        I’m sorry that our friend here Chuckb appears to be an ardent follower of one of the great charlatans of our time.

  • Bob

    NPR does not need federal subsides. If it is viable, it can make it on its own merits without taxpayer funding period.

    We must all remember that to the lefties, any opposition to them is “hate”, while their side can put out death threats ( Wisconsin), intimidate (unions) and call names (see most left-right “discussions).

    • Denniso

      NPR is clearly viable across the entire country…that’s not the point. The idea behind public funding is to avoid advertising, which has the power to corrupt any and all media it touches. Every modern 1st world country has some form of public funded media for that very reason,to be able to tell the truth and not be held sway over by advertisers who have one agenda or another. Our country is saturated w/ advertising,which is essentially commercial propoganda that controls much of our life,not just what we buy. Public broadcasting tries to minimize that often negative influence on comtent.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Denniso,
    I see you haven`t learned very much in the past few weeks. Since
    when has Obama and his Marxist friends ever told the truth. I`m
    going to ask you the same question I asked your friend jopa.
    Is Van Jones a Communist and who is Valerie Jarrett and what role did
    she and Obama and Van Jones play in his time with the Apollo Alliance?
    Do you even know what the Apollo Alliance is?

    • Denniso

      Here was my response to your meaningless question a few days ago…i guess you didn’t read it.

      March 21, 2011 at 2:01 pm
      Charles…your question is pointless. First of all,this is supposed to be a free country,and you rightwingers are always trumpeting the constitution and liberty. It is perfectly legal to be any political persuasion you or I, or Van Jones wants. This isn’t Iran or Libya where you have no right to believe what you want. The constitution exists for that very purpose…are you aware of that? If you want to return to the good old days of political repression,go back to McCarthyism in the 50′s,or head over to Iran to see what it’s like.

      Maybe we should outlaw the tea party?

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Bob,
    It`s about time. There are a lot more left-wing-groups, that are
    being funded by the tax payers, that should be defunded.We as tax payers, should smoke them out and bug our congressmen to stop
    funding them.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    Denniso,
    I would rather have anybody except Obama and his Marxist friends
    control my life. If I don`t want to buy a product I don`t have to.
    I don`t even have to watch the commercials if I don`t want to. The advertisers give me a choice, what does Obama give me? If you have
    children, I pray for them.

  • chuckb

    denniso, i see you have a very intelligent brother.

    for some one that had little college education, limbaugh makes more sense than most people i have heard. you say he makes up everything he says, now do you really believe that? he wouldn’t last two minutes on the air doing that.
    we evidently differ on what we hear from his program. i don’t hear the hate you talk about, he explains most things fairly clear, he doesn’t twist the meaning of the news like the media does. i don’t like all the football chatter, however, it’s his program and when he starts on that i just turn him off. he doesn’t have the humor on the program he used to have, but we can’t have everything.

    my favorite news analyasist is roger hedgecock out of san diego, rush is still the best.

    • Denniso

      The difference between your criticism of NPR and Moyers,and mine of Limbaugh is that I listen to him almost everyday. He doesn’t make up everything because he starts off w/ actual events in the news…then he manipulates and twists the event to his own ‘conservative’ bent,while maligning and smearing any Dem or liberal or environmentalist or feminist connected to it or not. Then he literally makes up things out of the blue that he may qualify w/ a comment like, ‘I’m not sure’, or, ‘it could be true’, or, ‘I’ll check on it’…Then most of his ranting devolves into pure biased opinion,w/ absolutely nothing to back it up.

  • CurtisS

    I like NPR, but like PBS, I think those who use it should pay for it.

    • Denniso

      NPR has something like 170 million listeners,so their tax money does give support to it. There are also many more thousands that voluntarily donate money for more support. The fed money is only a small % of their whole budget,$5million.

      We could say what you did about pretty much every service in the the country…those who want to drive on paved roads can individually pay for it directly through tolls, and those that don’t drive don’t pay. Privatise fire depts and charge those who use the service when their house catches fire,and leave the great majority whose houses don’t burn alone. Same thing w/ everything else. If someone upstream from you poisons your groundwater,let the EPA charge you alone to deal w/ the problem. We could essentially privatise most services,police protection as well,and only charge those who use it.

      Is that the kind of society we want? Most people would say no. Things were more like that 100 yrs ago and people essentially voted to change to what we have now.

      • CurtisS

        The Republicans can attack NPR if they want, like you said… it’s only $5 million, NPR will survive. Some of them like freedom of speech… as long as they like what’s being said.

        As for roads and fire services, your argument fails. You may not drive, but the food you eat and the goods you consume are delivered on those roads, so you still benefit from those roads. Fire departments are also there for the greater good. If Mrs. O’Leary’s cow kicks over a lantern, the fire department prevents a small fire from burning down the entire city… which is why everybody should be willing to pay for it.

        • libertytrain

          Well they didn’t do so well with Mrs. O’Leary’s cow knocking over the lantern did they? The city burned down. Of course, this was Chicago.
          “Historians agree that on Sunday evening, October 8, 1871, the Chicago Fire did indeed start in the barn of Mr. and Mrs. Patrick and Catherine O’Leary. Before the fire died out in the early morning of Tuesday, October 10, it had cut a swath through Chicago approximately three and one-third square miles in size. Property valued at $192,000,000 was destroyed, 100,000 people were left homeless, and 300 people lost their lives.”

  • CurtisS

    Funny, here’s an alternate theory… “Michael Ahern, the Chicago Republican reporter who created the cow story, admitted in 1893 that he had made it up because he thought it would make colorful copy.”

    • CurtisS

      My point still stands… the real reason most people are willing to pay taxes for a fire department isn’t necessarily to save their house from burning down. It’s to put out the fire at the neighbor’s house so their house doesn’t burn down too. It’s not about preventing fires, it’s about minimizing the damage.

      • Denniso

        There have been and still are people who use very little of the general infrastructure of society. They live in small villages,farm all their food and hardly drive the roads. The Amish don’t need paved roads for their buggys. Should we exempt them from taxation and supporting the gov’t services because they use maybe a tenth of what the average person does?

        The term, ‘the greater good’ is important,and applies to NPR as well. Every other news source of any quality has a debt to advertisers that can affect the reporting. The only one that doesn’t adds to the greater good by delivering unbiased news.

      • Denniso

        ‘the real reason most people are willing to pay taxes for a fire dept isn’t necessarily to save their house from burning down’? It’s to prevent their neighbor’s burning house from burning their’s down?

        Curtis, that’s a bit convoluted and narrow isn’t it? People want the fire dept to be able to prevent their house from burning down as well as their neighbors or the whole village or city. Most people recognize that we have to have ‘communal’(communistic?)fire and police depts to protect us individually as well as our neighbors,whether they pay taxes or not, or pay more or less than us.

        There was a news story a few months ago…some town in the midwest or east that had privatised the fire dept, and people ahd to pay a monthly fee in order to be protected. A house caught fire and the fire dept arrived and watched it burn,because the owner hadn’t paid the fee. Sounds like a dysfunctional,anti Christian and unamerican thing to do.

        • libertytrain

          On this issue, I agree with you Denniso.

          • Denniso

            I’m glad we agree…we’ve agreed before and hopefully we can again.Have a good day.

            Curtis is pretty moderate if I remember right,but I think he’s just trying to make a point. The problem is that societies don’t always function well on what may seem to be a good point. I think we need to be a bit pragmatic.

  • Henry Ledbetter

    As I see it, even if NPR was not sold out to the left, why should our taxes pay for it? Programs like this is why our government is bankrupt and totally out of control. Entire agency’s need to be cut, if we are to survive. The only federal mandate from the founding documents is national defence and border control. CUT, CUT, CU. State and local government can do a much better job and it is much nearer to the court house and state house, if we have a grievance..Most of the money we send to Washington is wasted on out of control salaries for the elite.

    • Denniso

      Do you care about the waste and corruption in the $700 billion military budget? How about the trillion $$ spent on the drug war over the past 30 yrs? I’ts a joke to look at the relatively tiny programs that don’t have a large effect on the debt or budget,while ignoring the huge items…

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