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House Democrats report widespread threats following healthcare vote

March 30, 2010 by  

House Democrats report widespread threats following healthcare voteThe FBI is currently investigating several reported death threats and acts of vandalism aimed at Democrats who voted to overhaul the healthcare system.

While more than 10 lawmakers complained of threats leading up to the final vote, two congresswomen from New York and Arizona reported that the windows of their district offices had been smashed soon after the measure was passed.

Furthermore, the FBI is also investigating an alleged incident concerning Representative Tom Perriello’s (D-Va.) brother, who told investigators that a gas line had been purposefully severed at his Charlottesville home. Apparently, Tea Party activists had posted the address online assuming that it was the congressmen’s estate, encouraging members to stop in and "express their thanks" for his vote, Fox News reports.

Meanwhile, Representative Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.), who herself received "alarming" threats, blamed leaders of the GOP on Wednesday for "fanning the flames" of hatred toward Democrats, according to USA Today.

House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) condemned the acts of violence in an interview with Fox News, calling the threats "unacceptable."

"Yes, I know there is anger, but let’s take that anger and go out and register people to vote, go volunteer on a political campaign, and let’s do it the right way," he said.
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  • American liberal

    These people on the right listen to the poison that Rush limbaugh , Glenn Beck, Hannity and all these other rightwing nutcases put over the airwaves everyday and their tiny little rightwing minds can’t handle it..then you throw the Fear of Christianity that the world is bad and were all going to be punished for our sins it’s no wonder they snap… You can’t just listen to hate 24/7 and have a normal outlook on life

    • Barb

      Sorry AmLib but most if not all these so called death threats and vandalisms against the Democrats have been found to be either unfounded or extremely exaggerated! The “gas line” at the brothers house turned out to be a propane gas line to a bar-b-cue, oh horrors! The so called death threats were laughable. Case in point one was Why don’t you jump into the Potomac! OOOOO scary! That’s how they mostly were! They were crying wolf in other words, crying being the operative word here! Meanwhile a republican congressman had a bullet shot through his window not a brick and then this same congressman was the target of a mad man on youtube who is now up on charges. The only one who is arrested. So let’s see who’s out of control here, could it be the left, they are the only ones with an arrest against them so I guess it is. BIG SURPRISE! So maybe your leaders should reign your people in ! MORON

      • American liberal

        Barb… Try this… Cut the line on your bbqs propane tank… Then hit the light switch….let me know how it turnsout tomorrow.. Ok

        • Barb

          Also heard the tank was empty and they were curious as to who really cut the line! If the tank was empty what a big boom that would be!

        • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

          Liberal, because you are not an American. What a well thought out mature answer. Just goes to show you that when backedup to a corner with the truth all liberals resort to violence. Its nice that you wish for some one to light themselves on fire!!!!!! shows what a loon you are!!!!!

        • Joe H.

          Amadumblib,
          I had a BBQ line burn clear through without any problem. All I had to do is keep my head about me and turn the gas off!!!! most if not all open the lid to light burners anyway so there would be very little if any accumulated gas!!! It’s outside, remember??

        • zack

          American liberal is a looser, a looser; a looser, a looser. Holy hell I knew you were insane, but didn’t know till now how insane you really was. Looser, looser, looser. HEHEHE HO my gosh.

          • JC

            Guys stop responding at all to American Psycho, you’re looking at a truly sick and disturbed mind.

          • JeffH

            JC…that is the best idea. He’ll do his rightwing rant no matter what happens, better to just ignore his game.

        • Meteorlady

          I have propane and have a gas bbq and firepit. Line broke when the lawn man trimming. He hit it. They break easy.

      • http://freelibertydigest sherry

        I agree wholeheartedly

      • laura

        Dear Barb,
        I believe a lot of these threats and acts of violence (and or RUMORS of violence) are caused by the Democrats themselves and then REPORTED by liberal stations and news papers like CNN and The New York Times.

        GOD BLESS
        Laura

        • kilrntex

          Every case of threats to the Demons was from the Demons themselves. Bill Maher called Americans stupid, and yes, the ones that listen to him and other liberal trash, are very stupid. Real Americans are pretty intelligent as witnessed by the Fox News Channel ratings, up through the roof, while Commie News Net and MSNBC are sliding towards HELL, where they belong. They can talk trash and call names with all libs and progs blessing, but when it comes from the other side, it’s major news. I saw Joy Bewhore on Jay Leno saying she don’t give a F___ about Glenn Beck and that was OK. Yes Jay that’s OK, because you just lost a household watching your show. Another thing, are all libs as ugly and fat as that PIG J.Bewhore? Imagine the real smell of those people inside their souls! We are in for a fight against the most evil scum to ever have lived on this Earth, but good will overcome evil in the end. UnAmerican Liberal, you will get your reward soon for being such a brainwashed idiot. It would be my pleasure!!

        • JeffH

          These threats are nothing new. Never waste a crisis! Listen to talk radio hosts. Those in my local area recieve threat all of the time. Anyone think that Hannity, Beck, O’reilly , Madcow, Obberego or Limbaugh don’t recieve threats? Democrats aren’t the only politicians that recieve the threats, although based on media reports they are the only ones that are reported, until they are corrected. The mass hysteria reports by the media left that “Tea Baggers” are violent and threatening is laughable at worst. There are fringe idiots with all kinds of beliefs, right, middle or left that live for their chance at “fame”, which usually ends up with a picture in the police or FBI blotter and maybe a story on the arrest. To make a big story of all of this just fuels the fires. Let the G men do their job. That’s what they get paid for.

    • Ed Hostilo

      I am just amazed at all of the liberal doubletalk tthat I hear just about everywhere. This president has not got a clue on how to do anything to create jobs or get this economy turned around. Even worse his actions have now strengthened the enemies of Israel. I would wish for the majority of Americans that you stop allowing the mainstream media to brainwash you and actually learn to think for yourselves! I really should not be surprised, because after all when the nation fought for its independance, about half of the colonists stayed loyal to the King!

      • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

        As you can see by my sign on name, I was a Democrat. I did something
        that all dems should do RESEARCH!!! I started in the primaries of 2007-2008 I looked at both sides. Its amazing what you can google. And this was before alot of the sites were scrubbed!!! of course I copied everything so I have the truth. I did not like Bush still don’t but the alternative was much worse. Yes I voted for McCain, as I saw it was the lesser of the two evils. My husband was so disgusted with the lies coming out of Obamas mouth, that he regeristed to vote as a Republican. Mind you this man was 47 and never wanted to registered to vote, but was so disgusted by all the LIES he decided it was time to register and he did it as a member of the GOP. Now I have him interested in what is going on and he takes notes on whats going on in the political scene. So let it be a lesson to all you progressive socialist liberals. You ARE waking up all the sleeping lions who will change the course of history to the side of reason and fiscal conservatism, who are tired of your “going thru life with blinders on” mentality. These people know what the truth really is, and will not be sidelined by your Salinsky mentality, You will lose the battle, because there are a lot more of them waking up than you know how to deal with them!!!!!!!!!

        • http://freelibertydigest sherry

          I agree!

        • Claire

          I used to be a Democrat. I used to be a Republican. RINO?? Enuf said.

        • JeffH

          A DEMOCRAT NO MORE, good job. Staying with the party line has always been a recipe for disaster. A little research, some common sense and a belief in America is my recipe.

    • Paul Z.

      I suppose William Ayers, Brother Wright and worse are what you like. We listen to both sides, but we DON’T LIKE what you Liberals like, more government control, spending, and Socialism.

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      you get up really early to be the first to start a thread and then
      watch it unwind trying to stir violence. Just what an S. Alinskyite would do.

      • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

        that was for a lib

    • Don Tremaine

      American lib,l
      What do you call people like Michael Moore? You must think he’s fair and balanced. He happens to be the left poster child. Talk about a nutcase!

    • Earl, QUEENS, NY

      American Liberal, I guess the truth really hurts. I wish you’d call in to my favorite talk radio host – The Great One. It always amuses me to hear him say: “Get off the phone you big dope!!”

    • DamnYankee

      Why is it that if one disagrees with the Obama administration, they are call a “nutcase”, your call, not mine, or worse. According to the first amendment, All, have the right to free speech. I don’t watch any of those mentioned,but have made up my own mind. Liberals don’t need to have their hands in my pocket, via taxpayers dollars, to fund their many programs.

  • Cribster

    What a bunch of theatrics!

    Millions of consevatives have been protesting for months and there has been no trouble. There’s been an amazing amount of restraint, especially considering how the “will of the people” has been stomped into the dirt!

    Everyone knows it’s the liberals who become violent. They had their biggest victory in decades by passing the health care travesty and they seem to be more pissed off than ever.

    • Norm

      Cribster
      When right wingers lose, they can’t handle it. I’d be a little pissed off if someone cut the gas line going into my home, threatened to kill my family, and spit and swore at electeted representatives of the people.
      The gun fetish, bible belting hypocrites spurred on by the hate media are a sad reflection of America and must give much solice to any enemy who wishes ill fortune for America.

      • Barb

        Hey Norm!
        Since you guys love bringing up the past. One idiot congressman supposedly got spit on,and yelled at. What about all those brave fighting men of ours who came back from Vietnam and got spit on and called names among other things! Like I said we don’t forget! Also that group of Tea Partiers was infiltrated by jerks like you so who’s to say it wasn’t someone like you doing the spitting and name calling? You are the sad sick hypocrite sir!

        • Norm

          Barb
          I was in the Air Force during the Viet Nam era. I so no action, but I sure wasn’t spitting on anybody. Remember also that Viet Nam was a Democrat war and it was Nixon, a Republican who accepted defeat(rightfully in my opinion). 50,000 plus casualties for nothing. Now we buy clothing from the Viet Nam.

        • Joe H.

          barb,
          Even more recent, what about the city of san fran not allowing the troops being brought back by ship to land in their “fair” city!!!! Our troops go and fight to protect us and all they get is disrespect from the very azzholes thay they are fighting for! what abject stupidity!!!

      • cr747

        Thanks Barb,,
        I was one of those Vietnam vets that came home and got a welcome from hell..I spent 22 years as a fighter pilot,,and the biggest part of it in Vietnam..I would like to fill that I saved a lot of our brave men by flying cover for them..It was sad seeing some of our on people tortured,,maimed,,and killed..
        I fought my heart out for our country,,and didn’t even get a pat on the back from anyone other than my family..But I am grateful that I made it home,,because a lot of my friends did not..God Bless Their Souls And Families..I still wake up nights and see those kids,,women,,and innocent people in those villages being killed..Some of them by their on people..They where ruthless people,,didn’t care for anyone..

        I’m sorry I can’t go on.. God Bless All Of You Nam Vets,,And God Bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • tedcrawford

          Hey cr: I’m one of those guys,and I can assure you that you guys saved our bacon more than once! I don’t get much opportunity to tell you guys or all the medics, but please let me THANK YOU!! That truly comes from many of us! Some who will never be able to thank you.
          I do have one bone to pick with you guys! How come you didn’t tell us those shell caseings from your guns were ejected out of the aircraft? Man those things will really make a knot in your head! They were the sweetests lumps I’ve ever taken though! Again please let me thank you for all of us!

        • Joe H.

          cr747,
          I know I’ve said it before but it bears repeating, WELCOME BACK BROTHER!!!!!

        • JeffH

          Hey cr747, where ya been hiding out, we have miised you. Glad to see ya!

  • Tom

    American Liberal, while I cannot speak for Limbaugh or Hannity, as I do not like them, perhaps YOU should listen to Beck, because YOU don’t know what you are talking about.

    Glenn Beck has NEVER advocated violence. Glenn has been real clear, and has spent a lot of time urging everyone NOT to resort to violence. And he’s right.

    Violence like this is definitely not the answer. Not just because its wrong, but because it could result in a crackdown on our liberties. We don’t need more gun regulation, or any more loss of our liberties.

    Seriously, anybody even thinking that violence is the answer needs to get that thought out of their heads right now.

    Those who engage in violence are easy to stop. What they cannot stop are noviolent, unarmed people. Because then they look like A-Holes picking on nonviolent people.

    To understand how to get your country back, you need to understand how you lost it in the first place. No shot was ever fired. It was done through infiltration. To get it back, we need to do the same. Either support third parties, or use say the Tea Party to infiltrate the GOP like a trojan horse. Use the system to change the system.

    Violence looses all credibility, and its the stuff of complete morons.

    Although, I do have my suspicions that some of this violence may be due to left wing operatives hoping to discredit the opposition.

    Just stay clearly nonviolent. Be vocal about it and urge others to do the same.
    Violence won’t work, it will backfire.

    They can’t stop you if you are peaceful. Remember that.

    • American liberal

      I understand it’s hard for those on the right to comprehend so I’ll help you….. My post said spews hate….equating President Obama with Hitler and a communist insights hate and violence…

      • laura

        AM-LIB

        It was NOT the GOP that started the Obama- Hitler thing it was the LaRouche Political Action Committee “DEMOCRATS FOR THE IMPEACHMENT OF OBAMA”. You can go right on their web sight and see the pictures of Obama with the Hitler mustache. A BRANCH OF YOUR OWN DEMOCRATS WANT TO IMPEACH OBAMA but I suppose they’re nuts too!!!!!!!!!!!

        GOD BLESS
        Laura

      • JeffH

        You libs spew the hate constantly. Hate is in your blood. We don’t like Obama’s politics as he is Marxist trained with socilist agenda. Just the fact that he has studied and embraced his mentors and their teachings of Marxism, socialism and communism is what I don’t like. Twenty years listening to Jeramiah Wright says volume to me. You go on and believe in it, fine!
        I say God Bless America not God Dam-n America

    • Disgusted

      I couldn’t agree with you more. The first thought that popped into my mind was that the left wing nuts are probably trying to make the opposition look bad.

    • Barb

      I agree with you Tom, I’m sure that it’s infiltrators causing trouble at those Tea Parties what little trouble there is. And I agree non-violence is the way to go up to a point. If me or mine is threatened by anyone we will defend ourselves. We will not roll over and play dead. We won’t draw first blood but we will defend and fight back!

      • Norm

        Barb
        Oh grow up!
        Your such a drama queen.

        • http://none JM

          Norm, You are the one that is wrong here. Liberals have done their best to drown the Conservatives, but we have a life vest that you obviously don’t have, it is called the US Constitution and God Almighty. Funny, you don’t seem to know either of them!

          • Norm

            JM
            I have both the Constitution and God. The key difference on both is interpretation.

          • JC

            No. The key difference is that there is nothing to interpret about the Constitution.

      • Palin12

        I agree with you Barb! Here’s a video from last week’s tea party in Nevada. Liberals throwing eggs at Tea Party Express bus and making threats.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t7IHaHJamE&feature=player_embedded

        • JeffH

          Palin12, they were “right wing” liberals because it was violent. Had to be, the video is wrong! LOL!

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Yes was that a threat when there was talk about suing and repealing? he smugly stood up and said bring it on? Or perhaps when people just get too passionate will he declare marshall law? Dont forget about all the fema camps glen beck claimed to debunk. It is no secret there are about 800 of them. All ststes have them even Alaska. im sure the messiah will have to be worshipped or else.American thinker is running a piece that come fall he will use the h1n1 for an excuse. Do you think maybe he find another excuse sooner?

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Gosh heres american liberal the liberal troll on another of our freedom blog sites again. UGHHHHHHH

    • American liberal

      Kbab… You mean not welcome on your ” freedom Blog”..?… I googled the FEMA death camps you were babbling about….a 6 year old could tell those sites were written by an idiot… Their are no Fema death camps… I also searched your claim that president Obama has ordered 400,000 Police on American soil…. He never ordered any such thing…. It was a suggestion that the Afghanistan military add 400,000 soldiers and police… You really should be embarressed for being such a fool …and you wonder why your thought of as ignorant?

      • http://verizon kbab777

        Oh yes there are you are just under the influence. You are out to debunk also maybe you want us all gone so you and your anointed one can be happy together. You wont have long with him because Christ is coming back soon to end all your evil.

        • American liberal

          That’s typical of a rightwing fool… Use ” Jesus” to threaten me…. Yawwwnnnnn

          • michael

            American liberal, Arguing with these idiots are worse than arguing with my 3 year old. Their lack of education and their mental problems cause them to think this way. That is why in some ways I feel sorry for these misguided hate mongering fools. May god help them, they need it.

          • laura

            HEY Michael arguing with a three year old must take up a lot of your time . AND THAT’S GOD with a capital “G”.

            GOD BLESS

          • JeffH

            Gee, now why would a liberal make a comment about ones literacy? Ever notice that liberals always feel they are the only realy educated people of the world. They bring it up almost as much as they do racism, or hate. I guess they really are more educated than us. NOT! Friggin idiots if you ask me.

          • JeffH

            michael, I just can’t imagine myself cuddling up to socialism the way you do. Ifthat makes me uneducated, then so be it.

        • Norm

          kbab777
          How do you know Christ isn’t going to roast you? Another one of your one sided conversations?

        • eyeswideopen

          kbab777, you are a nut. Those so called fema camps were written about in Jan 2006. How do you hold Obama responsible, when the Bush admin funded the money and had them built??? This is exactly why you can’t be taken seriously. You need to pay attention to the dates on the article you read, before throwing your net. Too funny.

        • JeffH

          I’ll let you defend the Fema Camps on your own.

          Are they real or are they Memorex?

          The reports that are alleging that the hundreds of new FEMA facilities that they claim are being built or renovated nationwide are for the purposes of gathering illegal aliens and visa violators while they are being processed back to their nation of origin, as well as for the purpose of gathering up potential dissenters who are American citizens, who will be subsequently stripped of their citizenship without due process thanks to articles of the 2006 HR 6166, also known as the Military Commissions Act. Many argue that the building of these prisons is but one step in a chain of events deliberately set in motion to strip American citizens of their freedoms.
          http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1528820/are_fema_concentration_camps_real.html?cat=9

          • JeffH

            FEMA is not a new agency, although it has had more press in recent years, especially after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on New York City and the Pentagon. FEMA and other emergency management organizations have been in place for many years, but at one point there were so many different agencies that the National Governor’s Association got together to ask then President Jimmy Carter to help streamline things.

            President Carter issued an executive order in 1979 to create the new Federal Emergency Management Agency. FEMA was created to take over the responsibilities of several other emergency management organizations, including Civil Defense, the Federal Disaster Assistance Administration, the Federal Insurance Administration, the Federal Preparedness Agency and the National Weather Service Community Preparedness Program, to name a few.

            In 2003, FEMA, along with 22 other government agencies, was absorbed by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). FEMA is one of the four main components of DHS, with over 2,000 full time employees and 5,000 reserves. Billions of dollars have been funneled into FEMA programs since its inception just over 25 years ago. The streamlining of emergency agencies was intended to create a more seamless system of preparedness, response and recovery.

            http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-fema.htm

      • http://verizon kbab777

        Yeah you waste too much space shouldnt you find a blog where everyone else is also worshing?

        • http://verizon kbab777

          meant worshiping.

      • tedcrawford

        What,one wonders, does obama intend to to with the civilian “work force” he preposed? Remember the one that according to him “should be at least the same size as the military and funded by the government”? Do you think they are intended to clean up the National Parks,or sweep the streets? Probably not!
        No outside source needs to be quoted to determine what obamas political leanings are In his own words, from his own book the auducity of hope, “upon arriveing at school I immediately sought out the radicals, foreign students, and MARXIST professors” Those words are obamas not limbaughs or hannitys! What’s the matter? You don’t believe your own messiah!

  • Tom

    Heres your post….Says, poison that all these other rightwing nutcases put over the airwaves everyday…it said nothing of spewing hate.

    Again, how is preaching nonviolence spewing hate? How is it poison? You wouldn’t know because you don’t listen to Beck.

    As for equating Obama with Hitler…LOL! Are you serious? I clearly remember many a left winger equating Bush with Hitler. Its the same nonsense. I don’t like Bush or Obama, but they are clearly not another Hitler…LOL!! I don’t recall hearing any of that while listening to HATE radio either…LOL!

    You are very funny. Am I comprehending yet?

    These people on the right listen to the poison that Rush limbaugh , Glenn Beck, Hannity and all these other rightwing nutcases put over the airwaves everyday and their tiny little rightwing minds can’t handle it..then you throw the Fear of Christianity that the world is bad and were all going to be punished for our sins it’s no wonder they snap… You can’t just listen to hate 24/7 and have a normal outlook on life

    • American liberal

      Tom… All you did is prove I didn’t say what you said I said…. But let me be clear… The poison they spew creates hate and violence

      • American liberal

        Lots of ways to equate Bush with Hitler( Iraq).. By passing the( fisa court).. Patriot act… Waterboarding , torturing.. secret prisons.. Abu Graib… Bankrupt America , signed the bailout bill…..now… what’s Obama done…give 32 million Americans healthcare… Who’s more like Hitler?

        • American liberal

          The biggest threat America faces is Rightwing Christian domestic terrorist and Radical Islamic terrorist… Followed by the Republicans and Tea bag party…the Rightwing Christians might be the biggest threat..

          • http://verizon kbab777

            LIVE FREE OR DIE LIVE FREE OR DIE WORSHIP NO MAN…………

          • eyeswideopen

            American, we have our very own American Taliban, it is called the radical right wingers.

          • JeffH

            And we have our very own batch of village idiots named American Liberal, eyeswideshut, norm, denisso, fast eddie47, senior cesar, smilee, international corporate socialist, coal miner. If I missed one, they’ll let me know!

          • J C

            Jeff, those lefties aren’t even Americans any more. They’re Stalinist clones who need to call Patriotic Americans names in order to justify themselves. There’s a great reckoning coming and I’ll bet these brave souls will all be hiding under rocks. Kind of like the Nazi’s who claimed to be Swiss when Germany fell.

        • Michael J.

          American Liberal,
          The Patriot Act was enacted as a response to a dire need for security against potential terror strikes on our country. Little did Bush know that it would be used by the next POTUS against the people of this country.

          As for secret prisons, Obama has his own in the same style as Abu Ghraib operating in Afganistan.

          Since you brought up Hitler, it’s important to know that Hitler and Stalin both advocated universal health care and we know how that turned out. You should also recognize that 12 to 20 million out of the 32 million to receive health care are illegal aliens, not Americans.

    • JeffH

      Now now Tom, turnabout is not fair play!

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Oh yes and what about all the thugs harry reid just hired to egg the tea-partier buses? Dont think thats out of line?

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Using force or railroading people to death camps? Yeah maybe if you are hitler ha-ha-ha.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Is normal?

  • http://www.ralphallen.net Ralph Allen

    UNBELIEVABLE! “widespread”? TEN congressmen report? Give me a break!
    You left wing radicals CRUCIFIED Sarah palin AND her family and then you cry FOUL when some num nut mentions some Democrat’s family!

    You make me sick! Widespread? TEN congressmen…ok? Widespread threats?
    UNBELIEVABLE!

    Funny how Nancy Pelosi said the Tea Party movement was not “grass roots” but astroturf.

    These arrogant people need to be fired…

    • michael

      The left wing never threatened that witch’s family, we just pointed out that they were hypocrites and were a bunch of morons.

    • American liberal

      Ralphie… You know who I heard the most trashing of Sarah Palin?… The people from McCains own campaign….I had a good laugh listening to explain that ” don’t retreat , Reload” was refering to voting … Anyone with any common sense knows she was refering to gun violence….. By the way , have you noticed that Hollywood Sarah is starting to pack on some weight?… The tea baggers must be feeding her well….my wish is that she’s the republican nominee or runs for the baggers….

      • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

        Anyone with ANY common scense knows that Palin didn’t mean anything close to gun violence. A. Liberal, let me ask you something, when you wake up in the morning, do you pray to the Salinsky God to give you
        the vile mentality that you spew!!!

      • JeffH

        BOO! Anything you meth mouthed crack heads don’t like becomes a threat of violence. Lock and Load…Keep some powder dry! Boo!

    • http://none JM

      Again Ralph, You are 100% right on! Go Get Em! JM

    • JeffH

      Ralph Allen, these socialist thinkers get all pissy fitty when you strike the wrong cord with them.

    • J C

      Ralph, they don’t need to be fired so much as put on trial.

  • American liberal

    Tom…I wouldn’t have mentioned Beck if I hadn’t listened to him…. I listen to all those I mentioned as well as those on the left….but I don’t listen to any of them all the time… I know people that never turn Fox news off the tv and who listen to nothing but rightwing radio….if you compare leftwing radio to rightwing the level of hate and nonsense is much higher on the right… I’ve heard Beck praise the bailouts while Bush was president and now he’s equating president Obama to a socialist and communist over the same bailouts….look who’s name is signed on the recovery act .. President George W. Bush… So shouldn’t you good Americans on the right be calling president Bush a socialist and communist ?… I will admitt I called Bush plenty of things , still do, but it wasn’t till after I saw that his focus was on Iraq and not Al Qaeda after 9/11… Bush just about ignored ever issue president Obama faces today because his only focus was on Iraq… But you can’t get anyone on the right to admitt it..

    • http://verizon kbab777

      I used to listen to Glen everyday wouldnt miss him how did I know he debunked fema? He has never praised Bush or anyone else for bailouts YOU LIE.

      • American liberal

        Beck didn’t support the Bailouts ?… Google it…. Then come back here and tell these people what you found…let’s see who lies…

    • http://verizon kbab777

      LIVE FREE OR DIE LIVE FREE OR DIE WORSHIP NO MAN

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      I used to watch nothing but msmbc and cnn, it dosent take an idiot to realize that they couldn’t tell the truth if it was running on a propter right in front of them. Thats why I don’t look it alot, only to get entertained by Bleep Olderman, and Spitting Chris Matthews, just a thought, when he talks and spittle comes out of his mouth is that a right wing conspiracy!!!, can his guests cry that a hate crime is being committed!!!! And what about Campbell Brown making fun of Joe the Plumber, What a bunch of fine journalistic prowess And what about Rachel Maddow, She tries to be all scholarly, but her facts are
      non-facts. Again the sleeping Lions are waking up!!!!!

    • Joe H.

      Hey Dumblib,
      when you fight a war, do you fight them on their terms or their own? Do you fight them on their own area or do you draw them out if you can and get them to fight on unfamiliar territory??? Let me answer it for you. you get them to fight on your terms in unfamiliar territory if at all possible. To have fought all of them in the mountains would have been suicide!! Saddam was a tyrant that needed to be taken oit for what he did to his own people as well as funding and supporting the terrorists. better to fight them in the flat lands of the desert till you have thinned their numbers then fight them in Afghanistan!!

    • DamnYankee

      NOT IF, BUT WHEN, the next attack against America or on American soil, I hope you are around. It will undoubtedly happen in your lifetime. I trust someone, whether believing in the “right” or “left” will recue you or yours without asking you whether you believe in the policies of the right or left. I’m sure those who rushed INTO the Towers did not have that on their minds.
      At least, when Bush was president, we didn’t have a second attack on American soil. Not so sure it won’t happen during this administration. You can’t cut our defenses and still have the manpower to fight when it becomes necessary
      It seems you would “Rather RED then DEAD”. I would rather be dead than not free.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? The Republicans and the Tea Party people are being blamed for threats and violence, when it is not clear who is responsible. I think until an investigation is done and someone is arrested, the speculation should stop.

    American Liberal… You have issues that are far reaching. Because I am a Christian, I am offended by what you have said. Christianity is what has held this country together.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      All american liberal does is offend he’s pretty ticked off that people dont worship his “anointed one”.

      • http://verizon kbab777

        meant to say “all people”

      • keith

        wonder if he gets that ”tinglely” feeling???????

    • American liberal

      Robin… They posted the wrong address on their site and had the spelling wrong on the death threats so they knew it was the Tea Baggers

      • http://verizon kbab777

        OH GO WORSHIP obama SOMEWHERE ELSE ROBIN WAS NOT ATTACKING.

      • Jay From Colorado

        American Liberal
        You must be just like some of my neighbors, which are
        school teachers from back east, or city planners from back east that moved out here to the west and screwed it up for us folks that were born & raised here and think they are the smartest folks in the world, but every time you open your mouth you let the cat out of the bag, You are a stupid ass smart alek that doesn’t know your ass from a whole in the ground. All you believe is the alphabet channel news which isn’t worth the paper or electricty it takes to get it to you. You call the people down that don’t agree with you, because your a jerk and think your so smart, because you don’t know any better , because you have a closed mind, and I would guess a lazy bastard that wants the government to hand you every thing on a silver platter, in other words you would be a ward of the state, and you guessed it I never met you but I don’t have any use for people like you. I’m not an advocate of violence but if it ever happened you would probably be one of the first I would look for. If your president doesn’t want to follow the constitution which he swore to up hold along with all the crooked
        dems in congress he should have his ass kicked also. You make me want to puke.

        • laura

          HEY AM-LIB WHERE’S YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS ONE .
          With the exception of the cuss words your right-on with this one-Jay
          GOD BLESS

        • JC

          Not to mention irrational psychotic.

      • Joe H.

        Robin,
        It was probably Amadumblib that left the threats!!!

    • JeffH

      You and I might believe in Liberty and Justice for all. They believe in guilty by association!

    • J C

      Robin, it’s just another smear campaign. It’s all they’ve got.
      There is no substance at all the the communist movement of the left.
      It’s a paper tiger.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Robin since you are a christian so am I just make sure you are ready to be called home because the Word says we are in the very last day and talks about these ungodly people like the ones here in the very last days. God bless.

  • Robert

    Here’s a bit of advice to the Democrats. Remember the story of the boy who cried wolf? Well history has a way of repeating itself. Even in fables.

    • Barb

      Amen, Robert!

  • Tom

    Well American Liberal those bailouts that Bush gave are the exact reason I voted for Obama.
    The problem is that Obama followed suit and did the very things that Bush did, so I no longer support him either.
    I am a lifelong conservative leaning registered Independent. I think this country is big enough that we can all listen respectfully to other people views without getting pissed off. Even as a conservative I support Medicare, because without it millions of elderly Americans would be with out health insurance. Medicare solves a lot of problems. Is it the governments job to supply health coverage? No, but sometimes the system can be tweaked to provide solutions, so long as we don’t get too far off track.

    I listen to so called HATE radio, yet I have never said all Liberal ideas are bad. Why am I not poisoned with hate?

    Right wing radio is just another viewpoint. if you don’t agree, then don’t listen.

    I for one shudder at the thought of an America with only 1 party. We need checks and balances. Imagine if Bush had zero opposition?

    I just think everybody needs to just calm down, and accept that there are opposing views.

    As for the so called Death Camps, or Fema Camps. Yes Glen Beck did debunk them, I heard the show. I don’t know what those are. I do know that one such Fema Camp picture was really a picture of a camp in North Korea. So I think some of us need to get a grip, and only believe what can be proven.

    Its not all hate….LOL! Most of it is pretty level headed. You just don’t agree with it, and thats fine.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      Thats okay about the opinions on the death camps all of you just go on and stick your heads in the sand and the liberals think they will have the last laugh but guess what?

    • American liberal

      Tom , the reason the bailouts were nessessary was because…Bush ruined our economy…. I wanna see 1 of you American hating , goverment haters admitt it…. The countrys economy was deathly I’ll when president Obama took over…Of course most of you only hate the goverment when an intelligent Black man is our president

      • http://verizon kbab777

        LIVE FREE OR DIE LIVE FREE OR DIE WORSHIP NO MAN

      • TIME

        AL, For God sake your are a babbling buffoon daily on this sight with little more than your HATE rhetoric.

        What is it you wish for someone to admit too; that all the social programs set up by Democrat’s in 1913, again in the 1930′s & 40′s, with more added on in the 1960′s and yet more during Jimmie’s time in office, then brought to a boil under Clinton, of what exploded under GWB’s time in office. Is that what you wanted?
        Well if so yes I admit that all these social programs are whats wrong with the United States now, they are all coming home to feed and theres no food for them.

        So whats your point?

        Get over yourself or come up with one single good idea rather than spew your “HATE Rhetoric” daily.

        • laura

          OH THANK YOU TIME-
          WELL SAID
          GOD BLESS

        • Joe H.

          Time,
          well said, BRAVO!!!

      • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

        now you want to throw the race card. First you use hate talk and violent talk, when that doesn’t work you throw the race card. gee you’ve added another moniker to your repertoire RACIST!!!!!

        • JeffH

          They’re all just liberal talking points. Such as: If nobody else says it and you do, then you must be thinking about it.
          It is in their operating manual to use those talking points, they just haven’t learned how to use the effectively.

      • bbstacker

        AmeriKommunist Liberal-loser:
        Check the links…

        http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU6fuFrdCJY

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0&feature=related

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa0agm7lIPQ

        Tell me “Bush” wasn’t trying to change course, tell me McCain wasn’t trying to change course. Tell me we were not warned by those with a mind of their own! We listened to the jackasses of Washington and Wall Street. If you still trust these two entities, then you are a total moron. The government gives nothing to anyone that it first did not TAKE from someone else!!! Invertebrates like you either need to learn American Heritage or return to the sea.

      • Norman

        Sorry when you can actually think and read you seem to tell everyone else to do please do so. Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac started this mess and a DEMOCRAT led congress and Senate Made Laws that the Financial sector (BANKS)Had to loan money to people that could not afford the price or the payment when these people defaulted the Law Passed by the DEMOCRATS that allowed these shaky loans to be bundled up into packages and called money. That is what started this mess do the research find the facts. as far as I am concerned you are smelly hot air.

        • J C

          And don’t forget that one of the most tireless workers on the “everybody deserves a home” campaign was that bastard in the White House who smugly blames others while Michelle enjoys her entourage, her brother’s job get’s saved by a 17 million dollar stimulus package and Pelosi conducts flying booze junkets.
          These people make for the sleaziest administration in the history of the US.

  • naturalist

    The Communists always use their own thugs to do bad things, then blame them on the anti-communists. China, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Rumania, Bulgaria, etc. Now the USA. Well… actually, it has been happening here for decades too. It’s just that the mainstream media is too stupid or too evil to recognize it.

  • Tom

    Well there was a time when the hippy liberals were throwing bombs.
    Liberals don’t have such a great track record of nonviolence themselves.

    • American liberal

      Tom, I’ve spent a lot of time correcting you this morning. , but that’s ok… It’s my job… So here goes again…. Anyone throwing bombs is a radical…. Not a liberal, not a democrat , not a republican and the tea baggers…. But I will say that violence seems to come from Christian groups… Just look at the responces from the supposedly Christians on this site … They believe all they need to do is claim to be a chiristian and it excuses the vile lies and threats…. I believe these Christian groups are as much a threat to world peace as radical Islamic terrorist…

      • GUS

        The enemy of our souls would and will do anything thay can to discredit or discourage you.
        Be wise as serpents and gentle as doves.

      • Michael J.

        American Liberal,
        Bomb throwers? Violence? Is William Ayers a Christian? And how about Amy Bishop?

      • JeffH

        The only thing you have corrected anybody about is any doubt about who you are and what you are about.
        POLLY WANT A CRACKER?

  • http://verizon kbab777

    american liberal is just here to attack I suggest counter-attack.

  • Tom

    kbab777
    Whatever those “camps” are they were there long before Obama took office. I think they were there before Clinton too. If they were Fema camps or what you suspect, concentration camps, Bush had 8 long years to do away with them.

    Sometimes things are not what they seem.

    Like I said, at least one such camp was a photo of a camp in North korea.

    Perhaps you are right, perhaps they are holding camps. Perhaps they do plan on putting trouble makers in there in the event of widespread civil unrest.

    That would be another very good reason to stay nonviolent, don’t you think?

    • http://verizon kbab777

      Im not violent Just keep up.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      Besides you do not even know me and you are thinking Im violent? Just want my right under the constitution as an american

      • JeffH

        Tom never said or suggested that you were violent! C’mon, settle down and don’t let those like American Liberal get your goat.

    • Barb

      I agree Tom, Last week I was ready to go to war I was so upset. Then I sat back and watched Obama and realized that that is exactly what he wants. We are smarter than that, and we have to stay that way. We can defeat this non violently, peacefully, intellectually, gradually. We have to be patient and calm and when Obama or anybody tries to goad us into getting angry we have to try hard to ignore it. I know it won’t be easy, but we have to stay the course as long as they don’t attack us physically, we must not use violence either. That goes for all of us on this blog- don’t let AmLib and Norm and such upset you, don’t get mad, get even! It’s not hard considering the source.

      • http://verizon kbab777

        Considering all the illegals hes pandering to, we may just be outnumbered and if we are not you still think he cannot take control?

        • http://verizon kbab777

          I think he is there to stay as the very last preident of the us in history and I continually research and read somewhere is working on this very agenda so you really think this cant happen in the good ole USA? Kind of like russia and its president that refuses to go away. Its all about control.

          • Tom

            Well they said that about Clinton, they said that about Bush, but I don’t think that matters. Obama will leave office after he finishes his term.

            I do think our government has been hijacked by special interest, powerful special interest. But for them it doesn’t matter who is president, Democrat or Republican. They have rigged the game. We are only given choices of leaders they want, so for them, it really didn’t matter who won the last election, Obama or McCain, because special interest wins no matter what.

            Thats why we saw Bush handing out bailout money, thats why we saw Obama handing out bailout money.
            Bailout money wasn’t needed. GM wanted money, but Bush didn’t like their unions so he didn’t give GM anything. He played favorites, it wasn’t about saving any companies, or he wouldn’t have been playing games right?
            Obama was union friendly, so he gave GM money.

            They are all bought off and bribed.

          • Joe H.

            kbab,
            do you honestly think our military would support Obummer’s takeover of the government??? Do you think the commanding Generals would support it?? Obummer has insulted them all! Plus the military has sworn to uphold the constitution and I think they would!!! Our laws state two terms max and out!! the military would force him to honor that!!

          • JeffH

            Joe H. the giys I’ve talked to find out what’s going on when they get home. They’re concerned just like we are.

      • Tom

        Well I don’t know what Obama thinks…
        But theres always a possibility that the right is being baited. We don’t really know.
        Stay nonviolent and we stay in their faces. Get violent, and they haul you away real fast.

        For what its worth, Martin Luther King accomplished a whole lot in the face of violent opposition, but he never raised his hand in anger.
        And he won.

      • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

        We need to use the lefts tactics against them ie: S Alinsky Cloward & Piven

      • DamnYankee

        I am beginning to wonder if this hatred and violence is not a set-up so Obama can declare martial law, and therefore take away more of aou God-given rights?

        • J C

          That’s a reasonable thought…have you started to stock up yet?

    • http://verizon kbab777

      You mean restriction on our speech…………..Live free or die.

      • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

        We can live free. There will be no dieing. We have to beat them at their game, use their tactics. We need plants in their camp. Just like they have plants in our camps!!! Turn their game around on them.

  • Tom

    kbab777…
    WWJD?

    • http://verizon kbab777

      If you trust obama not to get rid of us I think that is dangerous thinking because no matter what, you should have seen he is going to use force on us. He has already trampled on the US constitution do really trust someone like that he is showing more and more everyday to be a dictator nothing will stand in his way.

      • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

        He’ll try it but it won’t happen, the American people will NEVER let that happen. Unfortunatly if it gets to that there will be a revolt

    • cr747

      Tom,,
      We are getting pretty close to seeing,,”"What Would Jesus Do,,”"
      Sure is a shame that some on these blogs we won’t get to see them in Heaven..So sad to see so many not believing in God..What a blessing they are missing..God Is Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Geronimo

    When I see this country today I think Spain-1934 or 5. The forces of polarization are such that we are building the background for the Second American Civil War. For every nut case group like tho one they busted in the midwest there are individuals and little groups of quiet and sober people who are quietly arming,training (more just getting in shape physically and taking precautions) without any fanfare. The Tea party is just the outward tip of the iceberg. The vast majority of the fed up masses in the country are not resorting to violence and intimidation. That could change if the left uses the state as a tool of coercion and the powers of the state to “regulate” the people into a state of subservience. Being a westerner and a Montana boy born and raised I know well and understand the feeling of freedome and personal responsibility that is out there. Many people are saying..Just give us an excuse.

  • lou

    the democrats dont need to acuse the tea party people of fanning the
    flames because they “THE DEMS” do that on there own just fine!

  • Tom

    “Im not violent Just keep up.”

    LOL! You are of course kidding right?

    No I said that because you said to attack American Liberal. He doesn’t need to be attacked. People are usually more receptive to other people’s ideas when you present them in a reasonable way. Insults or finger pointing just make people dig in and cause them to go deaf, and not listen.

    Not saying you insulted anyone…

    • http://verizon kbab777

      You listen to him long enough you will see there is no reasoning with him he is under the influence.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/pediatric-patients-with-chronic-pain-look-to-acupuncture-19609231/ James A Graham

    RECENT VIRGINIA CHURCH SERVICE -STIMULUS SERMON

    I would love to give the Pastor of this predominantly black church in Virginia a hug and a high five.
    This guy is obviously a leader and not one of the sheep.
    Perhaps we should each decide who our real leader is….. It is amazing to see that very little has changed in 4,000 years.

    Good morning, brothers and sisters; it’s always a delight to see the pews crowded on Sunday morning,
    and so eager to get into God’s Word. Turn with me in your Bibles,
    if you will to the 47th chapter of Genesis, we’ll begin our reading at verse 13, and go through verse 27.

    Brother Ray, would you stand and read that great passage for us?
    ….(reading)…Thank you for that fine reading, Brother Ray… So we see that economic hard times fell upon Egypt ,
    and the people turned to the government of Pharaoh to deal with this for them.
    And Pharaoh nationalized the grain harvest, and placed the grain in great storehouses that he had built. So the people brought their money to Pharaoh, like a great tax increase,
    and gave it all to him willingly in return for grain. And this went on until their money ran out, and they were hungry again.

    So when they went to Pharaoh after that, they brought their livestock, their cattle, their horses, their sheep, and their donkey – to barter for grain, and verse 17 says that only took them through the end of that year..

    But the famine wasn’t over, was it? So the next year, the people came before Pharaoh and admitted they had nothing left, except their land and their own lives. “There is nothing left in the sight of my lord but our bodies and our land. Why should we die before your eyes, both we and our land? Buy us and our land for food, and we with our land will be servants to Pharaoh.” So they surrendered their homes, their land, and their real estate to Pharaoh’s government, and then sold themselves into slavery to him, in return for grain. What can we learn from this, brothers and sisters?

    That turning to the government instead of to God to be our provider in hard times only leads to slavery?
    Yes.
    That the only reason government wants to be our provider is to also become our master?

    Yes.

    But look how that passage ends, brothers and sisters! Thus Israel settled in the land of Egypt, in the land of Goshen…And they gained possessions in it, and were fruitful and multiplied greatly.” God provided for His people, just as He always has! They didn’t end up giving all their possessions to possessions to government, no, it says they gained possessions! But I also tell you a great truth today, and an ominous one.

    We see the same thing happening today – the government today wants to “share the wealth “once again, to take it from us and redistribute it back to us. It wants to take control of healthcare, just as it has taken control of education, and ration it back to us, and when government rations it, then government decides who gets it, and how much, and what kind. And if we go along with it, and do it willingly, then we will wind up no differently than the people of Egypt did four thousand years ago – as slaves to the government, and as slaves to our leaders.

    What Mr. Obama’s government is doing now is no different from what Pharaoh’s government did then, and it will end the same.

    And a lot of people like to call Mr. Obama a “Messiah,” don’t they?

    Is he a Messiah?

    A savior?

    Didn’t the Egyptians say, after Pharaoh made them his slaves, “You have saved our lives; may it please my lord, we will be servants to Pharaoh”?

    Well, I tell you this, I know the Messiah; the Messiah is a friend of mine; and Mr. Obama is no Messiah! No, brothers and sisters, if Mr. Obama is a character from the Bible, then he is Pharaoh.

    Bow with me in prayer, if you will.

    Lord, You alone are worthy to be served, and we rely on You, and You alone.

    We confess that the government is not our deliverer, and never rightly will be.

    We read in the eighth chapter of 1 Samuel, when Samuel warned the people of what a ruler would do, where it says “And in that day you will cry out because of your king, whom you have chosen for yourselves, but the LORD will not answer you in that day.”
    And Lord, we acknowledge that day has come. We cry out to you because of the ruler that we have chosen for ourselves as a nation. Lord, we pray for this nation. We pray for revival, and we pray for deliverance from those who would be our masters.

    Give us hearts to seek You and hands to serve You, and protect Your people from the atrocities of Pharaoh’s government.

    In God We Trust…

    You may consider sharing this with others.

    Have a nice day.

    • Barb

      Nice post! Thank you and I will pass it on!

    • laura

      Dear James it’s nice to see a post on here that really grabs you, Thank You.
      May GOD BLESS AMERICA

      Laura

  • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/pediatric-patients-with-chronic-pain-look-to-acupuncture-19609231/ James A Graham

    From: James Graham

    From: S STEELE

    Subject: FW: Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution

    As a widow of a military retiree, who stood with her husband for over 20 years while he served this country (which was the greatest in the world until this Congress and President took over), I have to say I agree. Shirley

    As a retired military man that have given over twenty-seven years of my life to my country, I truly feel that what this
    Country needs most is a new amendment to the Constitution . I am recommending that we add the 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES.

    For too long we have been too complacent about the workings of Congress. Many citizens had no idea that Congress members could retire with the same pay after only one term, that they didn’t pay into Social Security, that they specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment) while ordinary citizens must live under those laws. The latest is to exempt themselves from the Healthcare Reform that is being considered…in all of its forms. Somehow, that doesn’t seem logical. We do not have an elite that is above the law. I truly don’t care if they are Democrat, Republican, Independent or whatever. The self-serving must stop.

    This is a good way to do that. It is an idea whose time has come, Jim.

    Proposed 28th Amendment to the United States Constitution:

    “Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Congressman, Senators and Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Congressman. Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States”.

    This 28th amendment to the Constitution of the UNITED STATES Will apply to all passed, present and future
    congressman, Senators And Representatives.

    HTCM USN Retired James A. Graham E-Mail address is ( jagraham@charter.net ) Please forward !!!!!!!

  • http://verizon kbab777

    The ‘bring it on” smart aleck phrase was enough for me to realize thhere is something dark and sinister behind him just the tone of his voice.

  • Tom

    And no….I don’t trust Obama.
    I too want the Constitution respected. I see BOTH parties trampling on it and it makes me sick. The USA Patriot Act was another very big reason Bush lost all my support.
    They’re both trampling the Constitution, its why I remain an Independent. I think choosing honest leaders at this point is more important than voting based on ideology.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      Both parties trampling on it, thats my whole point.

  • Tom

    You listen to him long enough you will see there is no reasoning with him he is under the influence.

    LOL! Well, he might be..LOL!
    Not my problem though. we all have our opinions, he’s not going to change the world, and neither am I.
    lets play nice and respect each other.
    Maybe we can set an example for Congress? LOL!!

    • http://verizon kbab777

      Like I just said on a post above he is working on an agenda to be the last president of the USA. Kind of like Russia and I suppose you will redicule this also? Its people like you (not being mean or saracastic)that truly underestimate this administration. Sometimes I do not believe people can be so naive.

      • http://verizon kbab777

        Obama is working on an agenda. A lot of people on here need to get their heads out of the sand (meaning that as constructive criticism.

        • http://verizon kbab777

          LIVE FREE OR DIE including freedom of speech.

          • Joe H.

            kbab,
            you say obummer is working on an agenda and I might agree with you. If he is though, he has to work off of martial law. For martial law to work there has to be civil unrest. If we stay peaceful and don’t cause violence, he will not be able to declare it!! End of agenda!!

        • Barb

          I was where you are now last week! Very angry and ready to take on the world. I’ve stated here that I have realized that that is NOT the answer. Yes be angry, upset, defiant, but constructively. We have to beat Obama and his bunch at their own game, meaning we have to play smarter and BE smarter, which of course we are. We know he has an agenda, I knew that over 2 years ago, the Democrats have had one for decades they just got the right combination of radicals to finally get things to the brink of disaster. Screaming at our own is not going to help anything or anyone. Channel your anger at the real bad guys call the senators and congressmen and write them using nice language and tell them how you feel. Vote against them in November, Campaign hard against them till then. Go after THEM not these guys.

  • American liberal

    Eric Cantor was saying the democrats were grandstanding last Thursday …. He’s singing a diffrent tune today… He and his family were threatened by a nutcase… Diffrent story now isn’t it… Just proves Cantors another republican hypocrite…

    • http://verizon kbab777

      LIVE FREE OR DIE LIVE FREE OR DIE WORSHIP NO MAN……….

    • Barb

      Eric Cantor is the ONLY one who had a legitimate death threat, twice! There is a difference between a bullet and a brick through a window and the left wing nut job that threatened Cantor has been arrested because he really threatened him and his family on camera on You Tube, shows the mentality of the lefties doesn’t it? Not very smart but then I haven’t met a smart liberal yet! Cantor didn’t turn him in someone else alerted the FBI to the You Tube site. How does that make Cantor a hypocrite?

      • michael

        First of all he was not from the left as you put it because on the you tube video he threatened Cantor,President Obama, pelosi And reid the guy was a nut. If you had to choose which side he was on I would have to say he was more oconservative side, but I am not I just think the the guy was Anti-government.

        • Barb

          All I know is he donated to Obama’s campaign and to the Democratic Party, he maybe disenchanted with the whole bunch now , who knows, but he’s not conservative and his threats apparently were real.

          • michael

            I agree that this guy should be put away for along time no matter who he threatens. I think the point that some of us are trying to make on this blog is no matter which side you are on you should not have to worry about being threatened and public figures should not use language that may be misconstrued by ignorant people like Palin and beck has.

          • Joe H.

            you mean like “bring it on?”

          • Claire

            barb: Speaking of donations, you know what I would love to see? I want to see a listing for each and every politician and the names of their donors. I think we would be in for a rude awakening.

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      HE SAIDWHAT HE SAID BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CREDIBLE TRUTH TO WHAT THE
      DEMS WERE MAINTAINING. HOW IS HE A HYPOCRITE. ITS FUNNY THAT THE ONLY ARREST WAS FOR THE THREAT TO A GOP MEMBER!!!!! LOOKS LIKE YOUR THE MISGUIDED ONE!!!!

  • American liberal

    Correct… President Obama has an agenda….. It’s fixing the disaster the last republican administration left the country in

    • http://verizon kbab777

      LIVE FREE OR DIE LIVE FREE OR DIE WORSHIP NO MAN.

    • Tom

      Well American Liberal….
      I don’t think its quite that simple. Our economic troubles have been brewing for decades.
      Its true, it got a whole lot worse under Bush, but these bad policies were put into place long ago that led to this. The Community Reinvestment Act was put through under Carter, and modified a few times along the way years later. Both Dems and Reps supported it. It opened the door to lower lending standards and allowed many people who would not otherwise qualify for home loans to get loans. This eventually led to massive lending, housing prices rose creating a bubble, and deep deep levels of consumer debt. President Bush himseld stated that he had a goal of 5 million new minority home owners.
      But the disasterous housing bubble was well under way during the Clinton years, in fact It really got under way during the Reagan years with a small correction under GHW Bush.
      The housing mess is really hurting us.

      This economic mess simply cannot be blamed on 1 president or 1 party, all were involved. NAFTA, opening up trade with China and the huge trade deficit that followed, supported by both parties.
      NAFTA directly led to the crippling of the Mexican farm industry, putting a ton of Mexican farmers and farm workers out of work, leading to the massive influx of Mexican immigrants coming to the US looking for work.
      Government has caused all our problems. And it wasn’t all caused by any 1 president.

    • michael

      Amen, and thats hard work because the repukes destroy everything they touch.

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      You are soooooooooooo full of BS. Just remember the sleeping lions are awake!!!!!!! Your little cozy world will be turned upside down.
      Just wait you will see. And no one will come to your rescue. especially not the anoitted one who you worship

      • michael

        You keep mentioning sleeping lions. What is your fixation with them,besides it seems more like sleeping [offensive word removed].

        • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

          Seems like you progressive socialist liberal like to get vulgar.
          sleeping lions are waking up sleeping lions are waking up sleeping lions are waking up. I’ll say it more if it bothers you!!!!!!!

          • laura

            NO-MORE, YOU CRACK ME UP, CAN I SAY IT , I WANNA BUG’EM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            GOD BLESS

          • Joe H.

            michael,
            sleeping lions are awake! Sleeping lions are awake!! Sleeping lions are awake!! Still bother you?????

  • http://www.DownsizeCa.org JKeyes

    Hey democrats!!! If the shoe fits,wear it. You are the Party that tossed the Constitution under the bus. You are the Party that said: you wanted to fight for the unborn child, and lied. You are the Party that has a president that does not care about the working person.
    NO ONE with intelligence wants to hurt you; we just want to vote you out of office.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      AMEN, JK

    • Tom

      JKeyes, what part of the bus can we look for the Constitution under after the USA PAtriot ACT?
      BOTH parties are throwing it under.

      And Michael…The problem isn’t conservatives or liberals, the problem is corruption.
      Any third party not in office should be given a chance. Washington needs to be flushed out.

      gaetano….You understand the FBI trolls political sites looking for potential threats don’t you?
      When you speak like that, you surely speak for yourself. You didn’t say anything directly….but try not to get carried away, and say things you don’t mean. Again…violence is easy to stop. Violence has zero credibility. You want to make a change? Then stay peaceful.

      • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

        TOM have you heard of cfa, one world order, bilderberg. Your right there is no Dems or GOP. Only greedy corrupt super rich, who want more control so that they can get more.

  • michael

    I know that most conservatives would never lower themselves to violence but there are some in the tea party movement that will. I just say keep it up all this rhetoric being spewed by Palin, Beck and Limbaugh is just energizing our base and getting independents mad. I say all democrats need to come out in force and keep the country moving in the right direction. Do not vote for conservatives they always screw it up, look at Nixon, and the Bushes.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      LIVE FREE OR DIE.

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      Lood at Wilson, FDR Carter and Clinton!!!!!!!!!!!

      • michael

        FDR and Clinton were great presidents, so what’s your point. The repukes only had 3 decent presidents in their lifetime. Lincoln,Theodore Roosevelt And Ike.

        • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

          FDR wanted to be a dictator. As soon as he died, the congress put a cap on the presidents term!!!!!! Look at the TVA get schooled, that was a very bad situation.

        • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

          you forgot Regan

        • Barb

          What the heck are you smoking Mikey? FDR and Clinton great presidents? Holy Cow! Thanks I needed a good laugh!

          • Joe H.

            Barb,
            Like I said the other day, Clintoon was either a liar or an exhibitionist! He said the words I have never been alone with that woman!! now they have a certain dress with a certain DNA stain on it. So which was it?? Liar or exhibitionist or liar?? Or both???

  • gaetano

    You libs know that Obama is wrong and that you voted for an idiot,so now you are afraid of threats. Well, you were the ones to put him in and WE will be the ones to take him out. I think you should worry about those threats because, we cannot stop people who hate you libs so much,that they will try to pull something. Sorry. You made your bed now lay in it.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    The left is now trying to incite violence by calling us racist because we still believe in freedom and dont worship him.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    I will go to one of the camps before I worsip “the messiah”

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Meant worship my h doesnt work unless I pound it.

    • Tom

      maybe you shouldn’t be “Pounding it.”

  • http://verizon kbab777

    LIVE FREE OR DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Tom

    kbab…where are you getting your info from? Did the Obama Administration write a paper and call for all to worship him or something?
    I didn’t see it anywhere…

    This kind of talk is what liberals just love to hear. They point to it as proof that the right is nuts. Try to get a grip…

    Only believe in things that can be proven. With 1 exception…God.

    I think Obama wants to fix the economic mess, but doesn’t have the brains to do so. I think he’s also beholden to special interest and his hands are tied to a large extent. I also think he’s an idealist and is getting himself off track trying to do good with healthcare reform, that will only have the net effect of hurting small business even more.
    I think he’s making a lot of mistakes.

    I don’t think he believes he’s any kind of Messiah. He got that label I think because Black Americans finally saw one of their own make it all the way to the top, and I think there was a feeling that they would finally, right or wrong, get some honest representation. It was just a metaphor….

    • http://verizon kbab777

      You are just blind if you cant see it. apparently you have not been paying attention any lib for obama, pay attention he can do no wrong no matter what and no you can not take my frreedom of speech on this freedom blog.

      • http://verizon kbab777

        since you are trying so hard to steer me away you must be an undercover worshiper, a plant if you will.

        • Tom

          kbab…
          There are 2 sides, I just see them differently than you.
          I see a good side and I see a bad side.
          I see good and bad people in both parties…but mostly bad.

          You have stated that you believe that both parties are throwing the Constitution under the bus.
          I totally agree with that. I think that realization is a very big one. The corruption in Washington won’t stop until enough people realize that BOTH parties are screwing us. I have been saying this for years, maybe you have too.

          We may disagree on points such as Fema Camps or Obama worship, but I think we agree on whats most important.

          I would gladly join hands with any Liberal or Conservative who understands this.

          So no, trying not to laugh here…I am not a Liberal undercover worshipper.
          I saw such Constitutional abuses go on under the Bush Administration, that I could not in good conscience vote Republican. It was my hope that Obama would undue some of the damage that Bush did. He didn’t. And he’s making it worse.
          From here on out, I am only supporting third party candidates.

        • Tom

          I am neither a Plant, nor a Bush…LOL!

          • eyeswideopen

            Tom, if you don’t agree with the radical ideas, they will brand you a liberal, a troll, a communist, Nazi, and the list goes on. This guy is new to site, but he was on a few others and got kicked off. He probably won’t be able to control himself here either. Your statements show that you can be Conservative and objective at the same time. You will take a beating here. Welcome to a voice of reason.

          • Joe H.

            googleyes,
            how do you know he was kicked off any other sites did you get kicked off at the same time????

          • J C

            Eyes you should qualify yourself as an “emotional voice of wishful thinking”…but certainly not “reason”.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      A SLOBBERING LOVE AFFAIR

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      You don’t need someone in office whobuckles to special interest. So whatever good intentions you had, are not out the window. I call
      that weak. and not good moral character espeically if you are to be the leader of the “free” world

      • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

        now out the window

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Do not attack me I will not cower LIVE FREE OR DIE

  • http://verizon kbab777

    TO Tom, you are so sucking up to the libs.

  • Tom

    Kbab, you can say anything you like and you don’t need my ok for that…LOL!

    I have no interest in taking away any of your freedoms….But this is a blog, and on it people have dissucions, and many times people don’t agree.

    Thats whats happening here.

    You seem a little paranoid to me…

    Liberals love their first black president, and they defend him. Thats all. Its not too different from how the reacted under Clinton. Maybe a little worse as Clinton was not actually black….

    I saw a tv show that showed the inside of a Evangelical church. It was a massive church. I did not see one picture of Jesus, but I did see a giant picture of President Bush.
    People look up to their favorite leaders. But I am just not seeing anything resembling worship.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      Well shame on them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • http://verizon kbab777

      You mean fainting is not a form of woship??????????????

      • http://verizon kbab777

        meant worship

      • Tom

        Well I don’t know what went on if thats actually true.
        I am inclined to think they were just excited. I mean, love Obama or hate him, the very fact he sits as our president shows how much this country has healed itself from the past abuses that occured against Black Americans. The days when Balck Americans had their Constitutional rights denied them are gone. Racism had to disipate over several generations, each one improving. We will always have racism, but its no longer a huge obstacle in America.
        It was a symbolic victory in many ways.
        Perhaps thats what they were so excited about.
        Maybe it was just too hot out.
        Who knows….

        • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

          There are Black factions that won’t let that happen. They need ammunition for their retoric, so they keep the race card ready to throw. And this is only to fuel the fire. They keep it going, they don’t let it go away. It’s not us or the Tea Parties. The blame falls squarly on them. They are the ones who keep raceism alive.

      • michael

        No fainting is not a form of worship girls fainted when they saw the Beatles, they Fainted over Elvis. people get excited when they meet someone they admire and compared to the Evil bush, people find a lot to admire in PRESIDENT OBAMA.

        • Barb

          They sure do like, how well he can almost read a tele-prompter, how well he can lie, how well he can kowtow, how well he can scowl, how well he can intimidate, how well he can spend everybody else’s money and spread the wealth, need I go on!

  • http://verizon kbab777

    You cannot see it you cannot be in the middle there are only two sides here.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    If you plan on being in the middle, both sides can take it the wrong way the issues are all so hot trying to peace keep will not work.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Besides that I never caught any rallies where anyone fainted over Bush.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Michael at 8:25 am I do accept your pity.

  • Tom

    I’ve thrown up over bush…

  • Tom

    Never fainted…

  • Tom

    Just wanted to make sure you saw this…

    kbab…
    There are 2 sides, I just see them differently than you.
    I see a good side and I see a bad side.
    I see good and bad people in both parties…but mostly bad.

    You have stated that you believe that both parties are throwing the Constitution under the bus.
    I totally agree with that. I think that realization is a very big one. The corruption in Washington won’t stop until enough people realize that BOTH parties are screwing us. I have been saying this for years, maybe you have too.

    We may disagree on points such as Fema Camps or Obama worship, but I think we agree on whats most important.

    I would gladly join hands with any Liberal or Conservative who understands this.

    So no, trying not to laugh here…I am not a Liberal undercover worshipper.
    I saw such Constitutional abuses go on under the Bush Administration, that I could not in good conscience vote Republican. It was my hope that Obama would undue some of the damage that Bush did. He didn’t. And he’s making it worse.
    From here on out, I am only supporting third party candidates.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Well shame on you for not seeing him for what he was. I know a lot of other people he fooled and wish they could take back their vote but not one moment did he ever fool me, I could see way back then he was running for take-over. Just heard on the news he and michelle are taking over the food industry and how they can serve fries. Fist the auto and and banks and obamacare now the food whats next? LIVE FREE OR DIE.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      first the

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      I knew he was a lier way back in 2007. I am glad I never drank the kool-aide.

  • Tom

    LIVE FREE OR DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Are you from New Hampshire?
    Not trying to find out where you live or anything….Its just that they have that on their license plates.
    Its a pretty defiant statement and I like it.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      Just like I said a lot of ple here were fooled also and dont know why they couldnt se it. Now all the change they are getting is what is in their pockets.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Tampa Fl.

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      from around the same area

  • http://verizon kbab777

    New Hampshire has that on their plates and they voted for takeover? UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Tom

      I don’t live up there anylonger…but yeah.
      The demographics have changed over the last few decades. Still conservative, but not like they once were.

  • Tom

    Well the Republicans/McCain camp gave us way too much info in an uncoordinated smear campaign.

    They told us he was a Muslim.

    They told us he was a racist Christian.

    How could he be both? No self respecting Muslim would EVER join a Christian church.

    They gave us a lot of conflicting info, and it actually backfired. Once you uncover a bunch of lies, you tend to think its all lies.

    I regret voting for Obama, but I do NOT regret not voting for McCain. The GOP had to go….
    Warrentless wiretaps? Infragard? Neighbor spying on neighbor? Not the America I grew up in. How could I ever vote for a republican again?

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      You would if you have a hidden agenda, and remember just look at the church he choose to be a member of. No real christian church would belive the things that that church spews

      • Barb

        Just trying to make sure I’m following this, you are talking about Obama and his 20 year “Christian” mentor Rev. Wright, aren’t you? I got a little confused with all the he’s. He who? If so right on!

        • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

          yes i mean Obama

      • Joe H.

        Tom,
        IU hate to disagree, but had the McCain team slung a little dirt they might have had a lot better chance!1 Palin wanted to focus on his connections and his background and he wouldn’t let her. She wanted to let the people know about his affiliation with ayres and other communists/radicals/terrorists and he wouldn’t let her. If anything, he ran too clean a campaign. Personally I think he was a set up for Obummer!!

  • Tom

    I gotta go..
    It was nice talking to you kbab.
    Really.

  • American liberal

    The rightwing will never accept a intelligent black man as president…. Their hate has nothing to do with healthcare… Think about it… This much hate over healthcare?… If it was about spending these rightwing racist would have spoken up during Bushs spending spree…. It’s racism period… Especially from the hypocrits claiming to be Christians..

    • http://verizon kbab777

      This no longer about Bush.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      I am a christian Christ is coming soon to put an end to obama and all the rest of you non-believers.

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      Again you are a racist

    • Barb

      Several points here Am Lib,
      One, HE’S NOT BLACK just is the color black, has only a very small percentage of black blood in him! He is half white and more than a fourth arabic! 2. Even if he was black just because we are speaking out against him does NOT make us racist. We are also speaking out against Pelosi and Reid and the rest. Being against libs is not racist! 3. All this anger is NOT about Healthcare you idiot, it’s about government takeover of every aspect of our lives. When will you wake up and see that! How can you still be that ignorant to what is happening! Actually I think you are well aware of it and that is exactly how you want it! Well the majority of this free Republic do not! Back to point one your race defense is so transparent anymore, it’s the only weapon you libs think you have to throw at us and you think we are going to cower and sit back so we don’t look like we are. Well sorry it doesn’t work anymore. It takes one to know one , it’s the left that is racist, PERIOD.

      • Barb

        I forgot point #4 HE”S NOT INTELLIGENT Just because he went to Harvard on our dime does not make him smart, savvy to the system maybe , but not intelligent. Next to Carter he is about as dumb a president we have ever had! Thank you now for another great laugh!

        • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

          wELL HE RUNS NECK AND NECK WITH BUSH #2

      • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

        AMEN!!!!!!! JUST THE POINT I KEEP TRYING TO MAKE

    • J C

      Before we can test your theory…we would need an intelligent black man to run for President. So far we’re still waiting.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    I was not just making remarks about the death camps I really believe they are there and I will go before I let them bind me up I researched that yesterday and there is just too much info not only that why is gates posting 400,000 police peacekeepers on american soil?

    • http://verizon kbab777

      that is 7,694 per state you think that is enough to do the job? LIVE FREE OR DIE

    • American liberal

      I’ve told you over and over their are no FEMA death camps.. I googled that site and it’s a site some nutcase typed up….I also googled the 400,000 olive you keep babbling about and it’s fiction… That’s a number that Obama suggested to Karazi to build up the afghani army… Soldiers and police for Afghanistan… But you keep insisting on the death camps and the nonsense about 400,000 imaginary police….. So , you just go ahead and scare yourself…

      • http://verizon kbab777

        OSTRICH………….. (head in the sand but will get your rear-end knocked off)

      • http://verizon kbab777

        Its not imaginary it was online yesterday for american communities I guess obummers network police found it and took it down

      • http://verizon kbab777

        If you are not smart enough to find it for yourself, I can help you………… go to examiner.com type in 400,000

      • Michael J.

        American Liberal,
        try searching MJTF police and FINCEN.

  • kate8

    Hi kbab – Conservatives are being set up by the left. I read months ago that this was the plan (straight out of the communist playbook).
    All the newsfeeds are already written. They’ve been demonizing our
    militia for years, and now they’re making trumped-up stories about how they “planned” some operation, and the feds sweep in and haul them off. I’d be real interested to see where they are being hauled off to.

    Even those on the right fall for the lies if they aren’t informed.
    The left knows the militia is a great threat to them, so the are the
    first to go. Next will be conservative media, then all known dissidents, then us. Anyone who doubts this should do some research.
    ALL COMMUNIST/MARXIST/MAOIST TAKEOVERS FOLLOW THIS SAME PATTERN.

    The Germans didn’t believe it could happen there, either, Even when it
    was happening, and some were sounding the warning, people refused to believe it. Even the Jews refused to believe until they had jackboots
    on their necks…..

  • kate8

    It’s obvious to any thinking person if one will just use reason.
    Coservatives defend free speech, even when they disagree. Liberals
    try to silence all who disagree with them.

    First they marginalize and ridicule, then they persecute, then they eiiminate. And old tactic. Most Americans have just been too busy
    living their lives to see the corrosion happening from the left.
    The communists have used the democratic party as their vehicle to
    destroy us. That is fact. Just do some research – there are documented
    records, speeches and even books – multitudes of them.

    Just offer a lib an entitlement and they’ll go along with anything.

  • kate8

    Oh yeah, AL looked up FEMA camps on a government website and found
    the truth! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Got a bridge I’d like to sell ya……..LOL

    • http://verizon kbab777

      Nice to see you here Kate8 they really fall for the government crap dont like you said Germany and Hitler I believe history is repeating itself this would be funny if it was not so serious. You worshipers continue to beieve what the government says, bunch of ostriches…………

  • http://verizon kbab777

    LIVE FREE OR DIE

  • http://verizon kbab777

    examiner.com 4000,000 troops

  • http://verizon kbab777

    400,000

    • http://verizon kbab777

      at the bottom of article click on the link growing disent of american citizens.

  • Jay From Colorado

    American Liberal
    Your president has spent more and has us in deeper debt in his first year than all the presidents combined before him. You don’t like Bush and that is all there is to it. Study the facts.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    If thats not enough go to (the times examiner) it could never happen here

  • American liberal

    Jay… Who signed the bailout bill?.. Had Bush not bankrupt the economy the bailout bill wouldn’t have been nessessary….Kbab.. I went to your site..and again…it said 400,000 troops for the afghani military… I realize I’m trying to converse with a retard… My bad

  • http://verizon kbab777

    American lib.you did not go to examiner.com YOU LIE AGAIN just like your leader you are one of the herd and all you can do is lie lie lie.

  • Al-70

    To all liberal: Next time you vote research the candidate, dont go strictly on party line. Read more and listen less.

  • David

    “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
    Thomas Jefferson

    So, you wimpy folks are saying that Long Tom was wrong and that we should stand and offer the Nazi salute as barry’s SEIU purple (brown shirts)shirts goose-step by on their way to a Bible burning? Do you REALLY think that your vote will mean anything when barry’s minions legalize 20 million illegals and then invited their familes in? What then, “peace lovers”? Keep voting in single candidate elections and hope for the best?

    Let’s see what Long Tom has to say about that:

    “When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; THAT WHENEVER ANY FORM OF GOVERNMENT BECOMES DESTRUCTIVE TO THESE ENDS, IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO ALTER OR ABOLISH IT, AND TO INSTITUTE A NEW GOVERNMENT, LAYING ITS FOUNDATION ON SUCH PRINCIPLES, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”
    (The Declaration of Independence)
    TJ

    …and the 1st Amendment states that we have an inviolate “right of the people…to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

    But they aren’t listening, as barry’s power grab just showed.

    …and what to do about it?

    “I hold it, that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.”
    TJ

    Why? let’s look at the Declaration of Independence:

    “He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
    He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power. UN/World Court)
    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: (UN/World Court)
    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
    For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
    For abolishing the free System of…Laws…establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
    …In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.”

    So when your government stops listening to your “petition” the time for talking is done.

    The 2nd Amendment was put in place to protect all the others when the repeated “petition(s) the Government for a redress of grievances” fails. (see the “abolish” clause in the Declaration of Independence.) If they’ve made it so you can’t vote them out, what is the second choice?

    Well? (listens to the sound of chirrrrrrping crickets)

    From the words of our founding fathers, it becomes time to vote from the rooftops.

    • John Carville

      David, you have just made the best argument of the day.

    • J C

      Support the Constitution at all costs.
      As for the second choice?
      Well, When in the course of human events….

  • Frank

    Sarah Palin’s church suffered an arson attack. A shot was fired at Republican Eric Cantor’s Richmond, VA office. A pollster made Rahm Emmanuel angry so Rahm sent him a dead fish. That is a Sicilian death threat. That is left-wing extremism.

    Right-wing extremism is a peaceful protest for lower taxes. How dare people want to march in favor of lower taxes! What kind of animals want lower taxes and personal freedom? You hopefully.

    • J C

      A dead fish? Gangsters in the White House.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Strange explorer wont pull up (examiner.com) You have to go thru firefox then google, google on internet exploerer wont pull it up.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      I always use firefox it works better.

      • libertytrain

        me too – firefox is better…and is known to be safer.

        • JLC

          Hi Libertytrain — Agreed! I have Firefox on a Fedora 7 machine but haven’t been able to load onto XP. If you happen to know the secret — assuming that it can be done — could you send a cheat sheet?

          • libertytrain

            I don’t know the answer – my old computer has XP and I loaded it on that one at the Firefox site – don’t remember anything weird about it? Don’t use that computer anymore — although the old laptop has it as well and I’m sure I just went to Firefox —

  • kate8

    All this arguing is fun for awhile, but it does start to get tedious. While we’re all bickering about his point or that point,
    the elites are busy in their lair’s advancing their evil plans a step
    at a time. They are just keeping us busy and distracted.

    This system is ruled by the father of lies. Don’t look for any truth
    there. Many of you know that there us only one TRUTH, and therein
    lies the answer. Know the Truth and the Truth will set you free.

    Read about what God told Moses to do when the children of Israel were
    being bitten by snakes and dying. Ponder the symbolism of this.
    Hint: the medical symbol comes from this, except it uses two snakes
    to represent the double helix (DNA), or the deception of duality.

  • Antonio

    American Libral, the site does say that they want 400,000 troops to march the streets of the U.S.
    David, that was a very good post Thank You.
    Frank your damn right.

    Now i just really want to know why the FBI is not investigating all the fraud that took place to get the bill passed, and also all the fraud and sealed documents about obama’s identity that got him in office. They really need to investigate all that.

    • Barb

      Right on Antonio on all counts! Amlib is a shill That’s for sure. God bless all of you keep up the spirit and never give up!

    • J C

      How about the fraud that is supposedly our President?

  • kate8

    Because our government has been infiltrated from with by globalist
    elites and their operatives. There is no more rule of law as we have
    known it. Congress, judges, the FBI, are all either part of it or
    fearful of it. These guys play hardball.

    Don’t expect any of them to stand up for us.

  • kate8

    I meant to say “from within”. My keyboard needs cleaning.

  • http://verizon kbab

    I think amer. lib knew he was lyin But I think they must be monitoring this site it has been pulled

  • http://verizon kbab
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      the fallen morals of congress didnt know if the paste link would work.

  • Antonio

    Yes Kate8 they Probably started out just fearing it but then decided it would be better to be a part of it. You know, i have been researching this FEMA camp thing. They have about 800 camps already built and being operated and garded, but yet are empty. They are just wanting for the order to enact it. This is really scary stuff. It does not matter if your a libreal or a conservative or black or white, it just the plain old return of WW2. Did our tax dollars pay for our future death camps??? Just to be a good American i have decided to write FEMA concertration camps google it on both of vehicles windows. Ya’ll should do the same.

    • http://verizon kbab

      Kates right but you see what our schools turn out now a bunch of empty heads that cant think for themselves click on my link above if you want to read about the fallen morals of congress and I really can no longer find that about the 400,000 troops someone must be monitoring this sight and pulling down webpages.

      • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

        YOU HAVE TO GO 5 PAGES INTO GOOGLE TO FIND IT

        • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

          I WENT THROUGH BING AND PUT IN 400,000
          BUT IF YUOU ALSO SERCH FEMA CAMPS IT POPS UP WITH LOTS OF SITES

          • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

            ALSO LOOK IN INFOWARS AND RENSE

    • http://verizon kbab

      http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin472.htm they have had peacekeepers in mind from a couple of years back how did this ever get past me man I thought I was in the know.

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  • kate8

    I’ve been reading about these FEMA camps for a long time. Did you all
    see the video about the red list/blue list?

    I also read about the foreign troops being here last year. These are
    Obama’s troops, as he’s afraid US troops might have a problem moving
    against fellow Americans they’re sworn to protect. Foreign troops have
    no problem firing on Americans. They, like BO, hate us.

    • Jim H.

      Hi Kate8, When the Chinese were protesting in Tinamon(sp) Square the government sent in Mongol troops for the same reason. They figured local militia wouldn’t shoot.

  • Harold Olsen

    I suspect that many of the complaints from the whining left have been fabricated. Here in Washington State we have been criticizing and attacking, verbally and in writing, our so-called lawmakers for ignoring the will of the people–an ongoing theme in politics these days. They said they were in fear for their lives from our threats and ran whining to the Washington State Patrol who investigated us. The WSP determined that none of our threats were in violation of the law and were harmless. However, they have decided to continue investigating us.

    What were we threatening that put our so-called lawmakers in fear for their lives? Why, we threatened to vote them out of office in the next election!

    I believe that both are just attempts to stop the criticism and shut us up. Well, speaking for myself, it ain’t going to work. I will continue speaking out and criticizing the lying Nazi scumbags who are going out of their way to destroy our country.

  • kate8

    Good link, kbab. I’ve been telling people this stuff since Obama’s
    campaign days, but everyone thinks I’m just reactive. I have German
    friends who came here after the war. They told me that no one believed
    Hitler was doing anything bad. Not even the Jews.

    Everyone knows about the 6 million Jews he exterminated. They don’t talk so much about the 11 million Christians. Nor do they mention
    that Hitler joined forces with Islamic leaders and had great muslim
    armies fighting for him. Who better to use against Jews and Christians.

  • kate8

    Harold, we are being set up. It’s part of the game plan. They have
    already started rounding up militia (red list).

    They DO plan to come after all of us at some point. Those FEMA camps
    are ready to go for a reason. Did you all see how they are equipped
    with gas lines and coffin liners?

    • Joe H.

      kate8,
      Then why are they still issuing weapons permits??? I am in the process of buying and I have three friends that just recieved their concealed weapons permit!!! don’t you think they’d be worried about them????

      • Claire

        Joe H— My husband just bought a new gun. Permits are still being issued.

      • J C

        So as not to raise any alarms? …yet?

  • http://verizon kbab
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      that research about fema we need to educate people here.

  • http://verizon kbab
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      the reason Im putting up links then the message something strange is going on I can no longer make the message work with the link

  • kate8

    kbab, this is just the tip of the iceberg.

    Do you know about chemtrails? If not, just google it. Then, next
    time you go outside, look up.

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      CHEMTRAILS APPEAR EVERY YEAR AROUND THIS TIME, BECAUSE THIS IS THE TIME WHEN POLLEN MAKES PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALLERGIES SICK. THIS IS A GOOD
      WAY TO DISGUISE WHAT THEY ARE REALLY DOING. THEY MONITOR THE RESULTS OF ALL EMERGENCY ROOM VISTS FOR RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS!! LOOK UP IN THE SKY AND WHEN YOU SEE VAPOR TRAILS THAT DON’T DISIPATE THEN THATS A CHEMTRAIL, THEY ALSO MAKE ROWS OF THEM IN THE SKY. AND YOU CAN SEE WHEN THEY RELOAD, BECAUSE THERE IS A BREAK IN THE ROW. I’VE KNOW ABOUT THIS FOR 4 YEARS NOW AND A WOMAN WHO WORKS FOR FEMA TOLD ME ABOUT THEM AND THE CAMPS. SHE ALSO TOLD ME ALOT ABOUT OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD CURL YOUR TOES BUT I CAN’T RELAY THEM ON THIS POST. JUST WATCH FOR SOME STRANGE THINGS TO HAPPEN DURING HURRICANE SEASON.

  • American liberal

    Those scumbag Christian domestic terrorist will never see the light of day again…they deserve anything they get… I knew you anti American , goverment haters would support those rightwing Christian domestic terrorist… Any group planning to kill innocent people to promote their crazy religious beliefs belongs in a cage…

    • http://verizon kbab777

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    • http://verizon kbab777

      Dont know why you are ranting and raving about christian terrorists what do you plan to do – say mister obama my master please dont make me go you’re my master I worship you I ve got news for you a lot of people will be going he can no longer feed and take care of all of us the way hes running the presses.

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      WELL START GETTIN USED TO A CAGE, BECAUSE THAT KIND OF ACTION WILL COME FROM YOUR SIDE. LIKE MY HUSBAND SAYS LIBERALS LIKE TO THROW THE ROCK AND HIDE THE HAND!!!! CAN YOU SAY OBAMA

    • Joe H.

      Amadumlib,
      what the hell are you ranting about now?!?!?!?!??!! i think they are right and you ARE boozing it up!!!

  • kate8

    These rogue-government loving liberals will stop at nothing to stir
    up lies and hatred against Christians and lovers of liberty and our
    Constitution. They are well-trained and mind-controlled.

    We can’t allow them to cloud our focus.

  • American liberal

    You rightwing idiots thought Bushs Patriot act was wonderful.. Remember?… You thought torture was great and a Useful ” tool”…..you thought Waterboarding was just fun… You all supported Bushs illegal wiretapping was ok because” if you don’t do anything wrong then you don’t need to worry”.. That’s what you rightwing numbskulls told me when I objected to Bushs stomping on the constitution and bill of rights.. You remember don’t ya… You thought giving the goverment the right to arrest you without charges was great…. You said… Terrorist should have any rights….you thought the patriot act giving the goverment unlimited power was good… Remember… You idiots…NOW the patriot act will be used aginst you rightwing domestic terrorist…. Enjoy… And Have a nice day….

    • http://verizon kbab777

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    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      JUST SUCH A TELLING PIECE OF INFORMATION. YOU JUST ADMITTED THAT THEY
      DO EXIST AND THIS ADMINISTATION PLANS TO USE IT TO THEIR ADVANTAGE.
      SO JUST LET ME KNOW WHAT YOUR NUMBER IS AND I’LL MAKE SURE YOU DONT GET YOUR BREAD AND WATER.

    • Joe H.

      Amarealdumlib,
      what wiretapping was done??? Are you talking about the troops?? That is covered by the UCMJ and has been legal for as long as there’s been phones and overseas service!!

  • American liberal

    Chemtrails now?.. Lmaoooooo… No wonder you believe in talking snakes and magic apples, burning bushes that speak, the earth is only 6500 yrs old… You dummys are funnyyyy… I believe we’ve got recreation time scheduled for you at the Fema death camps….water sports … 3 times a day…waterboarding… We’ve got lots of fun planned

  • kate8

    Won’t these libs who rant on and on be shocked when they figure out
    that Carter, Clinton, the Bush boys, and Obama all belong to the same club and are blood-brothers, along with all the other top political
    figures. They are being used to promote and further the demise of our
    nation and they have no clue.

    All we can do is pray for them. (That idea alone will horrify them.)

    Useful idiots. We can only pity them, for they know not what they do.

  • kate8

    Something tells me that some of them already have their chip.

  • American liberal

    The goverment has the power to take your homes and bank accounts if they accuse you of being a domestic terrorist…no trial.. Nothing… Bushs patriot act gives the goverment that power… I guess my opinion has changed now…. If we have people right here in America wanting to overthrow our lawfully elected goverment they are just common terrorist and deserve no rights… If you don’t break the law you don’t need to worry.. Right?.. I know everybody in here supports our goverment… Right?.. I’m still laughing at ” Chemtrails”…. It’s a leftwing plot aimed at mind control…. It’s pretty easy because rightwingers have very little mind to control…

  • American liberal

    Oh, The Bushs are bad guys now?… Boy, have you rightys changed your tune….

  • kate8

    AL, do you really not have anything better to do?

    Your ingornace of absolutely everything is embarrassing.

  • kate8

    Actually, a better word would be “pathetic”.

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      NO A BETTER WORKM TO USE HIS OWN WOULD BE RETARD!!!!

      • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

        MENT WORD

  • American liberal

    Republicans and strip clubs …they must have went there to PRAY…

    • Fred

      At they pray.

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      YOUR BRAIN IS FRIED

    • J C

      Or to see you perform? ;)

  • Fred

    No post here just remember what side your on and what the other side is doing keep track of votes and in the end present you’r records .

  • http://gmail i41

    a Lib, FDR started the increase the speed of the meltdown started by Wilson. The plan for Freedie and Fannie was a losing system. Slick Willie”never had sex” Clinton and his two anal retards, Barny”Lisper” Franks and Chuck “Special Deal” Todd ,were two that help speed up the bank failer rate and lied about the banks solvancy. The democrats din’t want any daylight on their special deals or the stopping the loans to blacks, with out a job history or for that matter, even a job. You must have a myopic problem in not seeing and reading the facts. I guess Bush was right on the bailouts, since they are being paid back with interest, I still think it was wrong thing to do. The dems and Odumaz’s job stimulas sure hasn’t worked, except for the ”
    pay no taxes’ party smucks. I know you dem retards think government jobs are a good thing. But it takes taxes to pay and keep them in effect, government jobs don’t create anything except beauocrats, who gum up free enterprize, of course socialist communists love that. I know the reference to Oidoit, being like Hilter, Stalin, Chavaz and Castro, well he is following their game plans and salavates over their methods. Read history not comic books!!! Giether, Daschle, Rangel, and a few more that create or make laws that they don’t follow, you just adore, as idols. Lib and Norm, just what are you idoits reading or watching, I really wonder, have you two every had a real job that wasn’t created by my tax money or do you two just that ignorant, you cann’t see how the democrat party and you blind allegiance to the President Ophony is ruining this country. You must attend basket weaving classes to keep you off the streets and in government shelters.

    • American liberal

      Whos idea was deregulation?.. And why?… If you can find any honesty for just 1 minute answer that?

  • kate8

    I rest my case.

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      YOU SAID IT

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      sorry AL american liberal

  • http://gmail Raindancer

    Am Lib, they problably wanted to help your mama with rent and a new pair of shoes!!

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      OUR YOUNG ETHNIC PEOPLE ARE TOLD AT A YOUNG AGE THAT THE GUBMINT WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM. SO THATS WHY 85% IF THEM DON’T CARE TO GET A GOOD EDUCATION. BUT THEY DO MAKE SURE THAT THEY START HAVING KIDS. WHY GEE
      WELFARE, AND FOODSTAMPS SECTION 8 AND MEDICADE WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM.
      NOT TO MENTION THE SUBSIDIES FOR ELECTRIC AND THE FREE CELL PHONES!!!
      ALAS YES IT IS TRUE!!! IF YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT YOURSELF, THEN WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO BE CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF SOCIETY. IT SICKNING THAT GENERATIONS SINCE THE 1960′S HAVE THOUGHT THAT WAY. AND DEMS
      ENABLE THAT KIND OF BEHAVIOR. IF YOU KEEP GIVING THEM FREE STUFF THAT THEY DON’T HAVE TO WORK FOR, DO YOU THINK THAT THEY WILL SUDDENLY CHANGE BY THEMSELVS. SAME THING WILL(IS) HAPPEN WITH ILLIGALS. GEE
      SELLING THIS COUNTRY DOWN THE RIVER JUST FOR VOTES ITS A SHAME.
      “GET RID OF THEM IN 2010″ OR WE FACE A SAD FUTURE.

      • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

        MENT ILLEGALS. I TYPE SO FAST SOMETIMES.

  • American liberal

    Kate… I visit between 20 and 30 sites a day… I’m a busy liberal…if I don’t cone in here you people will start believing all the lies you sit here and tell eachother allday….it’s up to me to point out all your high morals and family values

    • http://verizon kbab

      Sorry Al it would take more than you to change my mind maybe GOD but you ain’t God

      • http://verizon kbab

        Yeah…………We’ve seen that you’re a fire breathing troll.

    • Michael J.

      American Liberal,
      20 to 30 sites a day, heh? Sounds like an occupation. Who’s your employer?

      BTW, American Liberal is an oxymoron. The two elements cannot be combined naturally, like oil and water.

  • American liberal

    Wow… Looks like they’re going after Hannity… He’s got troubles

  • American liberal

    Kbab , micro chips too?… Will they stop at nothing….

    • http://verizon kbab

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  • kate8

    Just out of curiousity, AL, why is this so important to you? Are you
    on payroll with ACORN?

    All you do here is make a jerk out of yourself. Since this seems to
    be your main occupation, I assume the pay is worth it. Confiscated
    from the taxpayer, of course. Which I am sure you are not one of.

    Too bad you can’t come up with something more meaningful to do with
    your life.

    • JC

      Absolutely… a paid shill.

  • kate8

    AL, you really love it when BO’s thugs go after someone who disagrees, don’t you. Shut ‘em up, shut ‘em down.

    This ain’t America no mo’.

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      STAY TRUE TO YOUR BELIEFS AND YOUR LOVE OF THIS COUNTRY WE LOVE SO MUCH. ONLY THE TRUE LOVE OF OUR COUNTRY AND ALL IT STANDS FOR, FROM
      THE BEGINING OF IT 1776 UP TO NOW. IF WE ALL STAY TRUE TO THAT THEN WE HAVE A FIGHTING CHANCE TO WIN IT BACK.

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  • American liberal

    Kate..i come in for the same reason you’re here…. To spread cheer and goodwill to my fellow Americans

    • A DEMOCRAT NO MORE

      AL I SEE YOU BROTHER AND I LOVE YOU. I WILL PRAY FOR YOU FOR YOU
      KNOW NOT THE ERROR OF YOUR WAYS, OR THE FOLLY OF YOUR ACTIONS.

  • kate8

    Wouldn’t AL start screaming if we could find a way to shut him up.

  • http://verizon kbab
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      there you go AL bible education wonder how 2 thousand years ago this mark would come upon the scene?

      • http://verizon kbab

        Wonder how they knew two thousand years ago this mark would come upon the scene in this day and time thats how old the bible is american liberal

  • kate8

    No, AL. I come here for fellowship with those of like mind.

    Then I find people like you who don’t even have a mind. Just a
    pre-inserted disc with the ususal liberal talking points.

    And from here on out, you no longer exist. You have proven to have
    nothing of value to offer.

  • American liberal

    Kate… I did enjoy seeing those rightwing supposedly Christian terrorist in handcuffs… I’m still aginst the death penalty so happy to see them behind bars…. I have this funny way that people who claim to be Christians but would kill a police officer that did nothing just to promote their insane ideas about god and silly things like an anti Christ , I’m happy to see them jailed… Also.. I voted for president Obama and worked for his campaign so I take it personally when people talk about overthrowing a president and goverment that ” We the people” voted in…. As much as I despised and still despise Bush it never entered my mind to take up arms aginst him… I still think he belongs in prison but that’s not my call..

    • http://verizon kbab777

      I have this funny way that people who claim to watch out for his brother by sharing the wealth but then will be a hypocrite and cut an innocent baby out of its mothers womb. Dont understand how they are not clawing his eyes out when he sleeps. Yes I have a problem with that. Hes been called the most pro abortion president ever to be elected to office.

    • Joe H.

      amadumblib,
      yeah you’re against the death penalty unless it’s an unborn child. then you say EXECUTE!!!!!!

  • Claire

    No wonder the youth of today bully and attack each other. They are learning from adults.

  • American liberal

    But Kate… We were communicating so well..i thought we had a future..

  • kate8

    kbab, This is how.

    There is nothing new under the sun. Everything that is has been before, and will be again.

    The wheel within a wheel….Things repeat over and over through the
    ages and into infinity, always the same.

    Of course, one would think we had the power to change it, but we never do. Maybe this time…..

    We err when we worship the creation over the Creator. Such is the
    way of the flesh….we only believe ouselves to be separate.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      Oh yes Kate8 I actully forgot american liberal is one of the herd A WORSHIPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • American liberal

    I wonder if the Iraqis enjoy their healthcare….

    • http://verizon kbab777

      if obama is giving obama care to them hows there going to be enough left for you?

  • Ted George

    I believe the Democrats have embedded agitators in the tea parties to cause trouble, and blame it on the Republicans……..

  • American liberal

    I’m here to give you the truth…. You won’t learn it sitting around lying to eachother… Or being paranoid over ” chemtrails”…so you rightys can’t find global warming to be possible but you believe in Chemtrails… ?.. Very good

    • JC

      What color is the sky on your planet?

  • American liberal

    Ted… Liberals are responsible for Chemtrails too..honest

  • http://verizon kbab

    http://revlu.com/camps.htm you know how to be honest?

  • http://verizon kbab

    http://revlu.com/Rev.html check this out AL

  • Jim H.

    Some threats were made and some vandalism of some Congressional offices was done. What you didn’t hear on fair and balanced MSNBC is that some Rep offices were hit too, by people that were for the bill. Don’t judge the rest of us by the actions of a very small group of people. the so called Christian group in Michigan also not the mainstream Christian here. Don’t judge the billions of Christians by their actions. What this group did do is open up excuses for this administration to start investigating all of the militia groups that are peaceful and law abiding. If Waco hadn’t turned out so bad I think Janet Reno would have been raiding more militia groups. If I was a conspiracy theory type, since no violence really happened and they were caught before anything happened, could they be a plant?

    • http://verizon kbab777

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    • Claire

      Jim H –I have close relatives near the area where this militia is located. This militia is not a plant. They have been there for some time. They are wackos and they are gunning for cops and law enforcement officials. I think these groups should be watched. As far as I am concerned, they are up to no good.

      • Claire

        And I believe my relatives.

      • Jim H.

        Hi Claire, I said IF I were a conspiracy theorist. My point is mostly these peoples behavior is going to reflect on other responsible people who are nothing like these kooks. They are doing more harm and I think the left is going to use this to go after law abiding, constitutional groups. Like they say, Hate to waste a good crisis.

        • Claire

          Jim H–I am always a little doubtful about some of these militia groups. I hear there are some in the state of Virginia that are rather shady but I have no relatives there so I don’t know. Only what I read. And what is with this microchipping garbage? Some of this radical stuff is beginning to bother me. It almost seems like some of it is too radical, too far out there.

          • Claire

            I wish to add (not militia?) some of the other organizations–ACLU, ACORN and others that are shady.

  • JC

    From the Campaign for Liberty:

    This is getting to be like a bad movie.

    You know the ones where the villain, dead and buried more times than you can count, somehow mysteriously reappears in a place you don’t expect him?

    Well, here comes… a new fight over a biometric national ID card — and if you don’t have the card, you can’t work.

    Right now, freedom-stealing statists Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY), banding together with other statists from both parties, are scheming to sneak a massive power grab into a new “immigration reform” bill.

    This bill is a statist’s dream — “amnesty” for illegal immigrants and a biometric ID card for virtually everyone else.

    That’s right. Instead of controlling the border and enforcing the rule of law, these statists want to control you.

    That’s why it’s vital you sign the petitions to your Congressman and Senators IMMEDIATELY.

    You see, a National ID scheme — complete with biometric tracking technology — is embedded in the new “Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill” being pushed by Senators Graham and Schumer, as well as other Big Government members from both parties.

    And if passed, the “Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill” would require a new National ID card that would:

    *** Include biometric identification information, such as fingerprints, retinal scans or scans of veins on the back of hands. Depending on the technology used, the ID card could easily be used as a tracking device;

    *** Be required for all U.S. workers regardless of place of birth, and make it illegal for anyone to hold a job in the United States who doesn’t obtain the ID card;

    *** Require all employers to purchase an “ID scanner” to verify the ID cards with the federal government. Every time any citizen applies for a job, the government would know — and you can bet it’s only a matter of time until “ID scans” will be required to make even routine purchases, as well.
    Of course, the most dangerous part of the bill is the biometric tracking technology which would allow federal bureaucrats to track our every move.

    Allowing our government to have this much “prying power” in our lives will ultimately result in the TOTAL loss of freedom.

    This is exactly the type of battle that often decides whether a country remains free, or continues down a slide toward tyranny.

    Government goon squads with all our personal information – information they do not need and constitutionally should not have – is a recipe for disaster for our nation.

    You see, once “well-meaning” government bureaucrats know exactly how we live our lives, it won’t be long until they try to run them.

    In fact, it will only be a matter of time until they spend their workdays making sure you and I don’t go anywhere we “shouldn’t,” buy anything we “shouldn’t,” read anything we “shouldn’t,” eat anything we “shouldn’t” or smoke anything we “shouldn’t.”

    You see, this fight isn’t really about immigration.
    Whatever you think of that fight, it’s simply being used as cover.

    If there is good news in this fight, thanks to the help of grassroots citizens like you, it’s that we’ve been able to render the Big Government politicians’ REAL ID nearly toothless in more than two dozen states.

    Now, the statists are growing nervous.

    They know Americans are FED UP with their mad rush to take over our health care system, expand Federal Reserve power and regulate and control every aspect of our lives.

    We’re FED UP with trillion dollar deficits.

    We’re SICK AND TIRED of radical schemes like Cap and Tax.

    We’re done with their out of control spending on foreign affairs and nation building all over the globe.

    They also see that our anger is producing results. Many of their schemes are failing.

    Rallies are growing in strength. Candidates are rising up in state after state to say “Enough!”

    So the statists are trying a bipartisan “backdoor” scheme to impose more control on American citizens.

    They’re hoping that after months of Big Media mouthpieces decrying the “poisonous and partisan politics” in Washington, the American people will jump for joy at the sight of a Democrat from liberal New York and a Republican from conservative South Carolina “working together to solve our immigration mess.”

    Well, you and I know better.

    After all, liberty activists can hardly find two Senators with bigger vendettas against the liberty movement than Senator Chuck Schumer and Senator Lindsey Graham.

    Senator Graham himself has very publicly denounced the limited government R3VOLUTION launched by Dr. Ron Paul.
    He’s stated that we’re not welcome in HIS party.

    And now, he’s proving why the one who should not be welcome in any party that values freedom is LINDSEY GRAHAM.

    That’s why it’s up to you and me to FIGHT back.

    Unfortunately, the only way to DEFEAT a new National ID card is to contact Americans from coast-to-coast and explain EXACTLY what’s at stake.

    They’re not going to get the real story from the media. It’s up to you and me to reach them.

    Already, I’ve prepared email blasts, blog posts and other internet activities to alert liberty-loving Americans to the National ID scheme included in the new “Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill.”

    But that’s not all. Campaign for Liberty staff tells me if I pull out all the stops, there’s an additional twelve million folks I can reach through our mail and phone programs.

    And finally, if I can raise the resources, I’d also like to run hard-hitting newspaper, radio and TV ads in New York and South Carolina, explaining to the citizens of those states exactly what Senators Schumer and Graham are up to.

    James, with all the battles we’ve faced over the past several months to save AUDIT THE FED and stop ObamaCare, I simply don’t have the resources to do everything.

    So please sign the petition and make a most generous contribution of $100, $50 or at least $25 IMMEDIATELY!

    You see, this isn’t a fight we can afford to lose.

    Passage of the National ID card would virtually guarantee the last vestiges of freedom we enjoy as Americans would be seriously jeopardized.

    And if you and I don’t defeat it, who will?

    There is already a strong, “bipartisan coalition” developing, and the American people barely know what’s going on.

    So I have to ask you — in addition to your signed petition — can I count on you for a generous contribution of $100, $50 or at least $25 IMMEDIATELY?

    Sincerely,

    John F. Tate

    President

    P.S. Embedded in Senators Lindsey Graham’s and Chuck Schumer’s “Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill” is the groundwork for a National ID card — complete with biometric tracking technology — for everyone with a job in America.

    If passed, it would require every American to obtain the card to work legally in the U.S. — and you can bet it will only be a matter of time until they’re required even for simple purchases.

  • kate8

    Yes, Christians are far from all alike.

    Don’t forget Jeremiah Wright and his bunch. Even muslim Obama claimed
    to be one of them. Apparently they have enough in common.

  • American liberal

    Another victory for the President today….. Student loan reform….we want our children educated… Or they could grow up to be rightwingers..

    • http://verizon kbab777

      You got that right we want them to be taught to expect a handout and depend on the gubmint.

    • Michael J.

      Oxymoron,
      Government loans for college is just another way to ensure that yet another generation will be enslaved by Socialist Indoctrination at the hands of the Kenyan Kommunist.

      • J C

        Economic slavery. Get em while they’re young.

  • American liberal

    7:30… Time to go home… See all my fellow Americans….don’t forget to give thanks for President Obama… He’s doing lots of good work for you…

    • http://verizon kbab777

      And God bless you too.

    • Michael J.

      Oxymoron, Thanks for the load of Bovine Excrement.

    • kilrntex

      Have any of you liberal scumbags ever worked and paid any taxes? You are all a bunch of freeloading parasites living off real taxpayers. Who will support your sorry asses when you break the working people who built this country? If socialism is so great, why is California 565 billion dollars in debt and all other countries who went that direction are the same way. I hope Obama makes it for four years as a so called President so he can see how popular he really was! It’s a shame that a Black president had to be such a waste. He could have shown the world what a good race the Black people really are, but instead he screwed it up with the all the radical advisors and other scum he surrounded himself with. Black Americans deserved better.

    • J C

      Yep! Suppertime….so head on over to the nearest “ObamaKing” and order a big juicy burger, fries, drink and dessert…the person behind you has to pay for it anyway….

  • kate8

    Well, we knew the ID thing was coming. Mr. Tate is right. We cannot
    afford to lose this one.

    These elites really believe themselves to be our masters, and they
    will stop at nothing to fulfill their diabolical dream of a slave
    population (considerably reduced in numbers, BTW).

    Push is finally coming to shove here. It will literally be a choice of
    life or death (seems like I read somewhere this would happen).

    “He who seeks to save his life shall lose it, and he who loses it for
    My Sake shall save it.”

  • http://verizon kbab777

    You dont really think american liberal is gone do you Kate? All the last smart remarks he was making bet he was getting off on them and probably playing with his testicles at the same time

  • kate8

    kbab, that is one visual I just can’t bear.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      sorry Kate but we should know soon here.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    I guess he must be gone didnt know if he was going to snoop.

  • kate8

    About the arrests of the militia: I knew it was a setup. And more
    is to come.

    Sealed indictments indeed. Does this administration do everything
    under cover? YES.

    http://www.moneyteachers.org/Hutaree.htm

  • http://verizon kbab777

    I really want to apolgize to you Kate I just thought if he was lyin’ he would jump back in. you know how he is when he gets mad rantin’ and ravin’

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Like your post Kate like I said once before rense is good and informative.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    They wanted it to get out to make christians look delusional. Real christians would not dare do anything like altho I have to say american liberal can be testy and get me to goin’.

  • kate8

    You don’t need to apologize, kbab. Anyway, I think the best thing we
    can do is to ABSOLUTELY IGNORE this guy from here on out. If no one
    responds to his posts maybe he will get tired and go away.

    Things are getting really dicey now. I read back in Dec. or Jan that
    they roundups would be starting soon, like Feb. or Mar., and here we
    are. They are out to take our guns and will use tactics like this one
    to do it. Next will be a fake incident which they will blame on militia, and then the legislation will fly. The media will go nuts.

    We are in trouble, big time, now. We are waking up and they are panicking, so it’s all on fasttrack now.

    Can we change it? More than ever, we all need one another. And we all
    need to pray.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      Yes we do actully I have been doing a lot of praying dont know if the Lord is happy about me today tho. But I have to just keep tryin to do better. If he looked at some of those links he saw some bible tho’ LOL

  • http://verizon kbab777

    meanind AL if he looked………………

  • http://verizon kbab777

    was just now looking at repubs look to voting out congress AL was junping back and forth TROLLING I wasnt lying about that one

  • http://verizon kbab777

    cramming obama care down our throats is so full it wont hardly load on my pc.

  • kate8

    We need the military to step in and do their sworn duty….to uphold
    and defend the US Constitution and protect us from all enemies, both
    foreign and domestic. We have a full infestation…

    The first place they need to visit is the WH and the usurper-in-chief.
    Talkin’ part’s about over.

    Wouldn’t blame these brave men for not wanting to protect our liberal
    brethren. Can’t you just hear them whining.

    Seriously, this may be our only hope. The Oathkeepers, what are they
    doing?

  • http://verizon kbab
  • http://verizon kbab

    http://supreme.justia.com/constitution/article-2/14-martial-law.html the more I look into this mess the scarier it is. If they can continue to stamp on the constituion I dont know what can help us in the natural.

  • kate8

    Thanks, kbab. I actually have read this, or something similar, before.
    And it all is great, except how do we make use of this in real life?

    I mentioned before maritime law, and how we are not in actuality under such jurisdiction unless we (inadvertently) place ourselves there. We cannot legally be bound by statutes that violate the Law of
    the Land. But how does this protect us against the thugs who will come?

    What we need is more education, more legal help from patriots. And
    most of all, the Almighty. We are in a mess. Only He knows the way
    out.

  • http://verizon kbab

    Kate8 there is still conversation going on on gates dont ask dont tell.

  • http://verizon kbab

    It was you did not even look at the person just the time guess the joke is on me

  • http://verizon kbab

    Kate where did everyone go?

  • kate8

    I don’t know, kbab. Maybe some people actually have lives! hahaha.

    I truly mean no offense. I speak for myself.

  • JefffromOr

    I have two things to say to those who threaten those who voted for health care,- WINDAGE AND ELEVATION.

    • JC

      Health Care as presented by the communists presently in the White House is a nice feely good lofty idea…but it’s actually designed to control and kill. Just like your windage and elevation. Try about 4 clicks to the right…

      • http://verizon kbab777

        That was good……………..

  • kate8

    Amen, JC.

    And it’s only feely good to those who trust Obama.

    History has never produced a communist who was worthy of any trust.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Think I will retire its 11:40pm here Goodnite all

  • http://verizon kbab777

    One more thing before I retire I am concerned about the census may even suspicious since I am 68 and on social security.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    I laid down but can not stop my brain because I believe the aged on ssi will be on the red list first.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Kate and JC there are people still talking on repubs vow to fight

  • SiliconDoc

    Sure, sure sure libs. Yes, you’re so threatened, make it national news you crybabies, because you and yours are pure driven snow, right ?

    Oh.. one word BUSH.

    http://www.binscorner.com/pages/d/death-threats-against-bush-at-protests-i.html
    -
    Thanks for playing libtards. You lost, again.

  • Ronald D Johnston

    Chicago politics!

  • http://www.churchofthemuzzelflash.com/ DKBailey

    Interesting that the hard of hearing still can’t hear when the noise level reaches the violent stage…
    Many still wonder what it takes to get these communists to listen.
    Yes we can? Well, yes you are!
    Watch your back, you might not make it to that coming election…
    The ideals in present and coming legislation, has reached some peoples limits.
    If the intent and purpose is to cause a revolutionary uprising of the people against the government, you are doing a great job!!!
    A few have lost it already. Many more are very close to venting (bricks & bullets) their anger. Almost everyone has oiled their guns…
    We The People, see all this as a direct confrontation against our constitutional rights and a very real and present danger to the existence of our country.
    This begs the question: What part of NO don’t you understand?

  • Mick

    A dem-libby claims to have been spit on in the march to the capital to enforce the healthcare “reform”.This was all video taped. IF THERE IS EVEN A SHREAD OF TRUTH TO THIS WHERE’S VIDEO?You know full well the state media would have shown it.Never believe a democrat,espesially if their lipr are moving.We need build a massive prison to house all these libby liars before they enslave us all!

  • Don Tremaine

    Now the democrats think it’s wrong to slander representatives for their voting records. Where were these people when they were doing the same to G.W. Bush?

  • kate8

    “WE’RE AMERICANS AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DISAGREE WITH ANY ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!!!!”

    (Except when dems are in power. Then SIT DOWN, SHUT UP, OR GET HAULED OFF TO A FEMA CAMP.)

  • kate8

    Note to kbab: When I first learned of the red list/blue list didn’t
    sleep nights either.

    They are already starting on the red list – the militia. We’re most
    likely blue list, as we’re low-level threat. But just think of all
    the wonderful company we’ll be among. Maybe I’ll see you there.

  • SiliconDoc

    Remember when the demolib vermin protesters surrounded Karl Rove’s house and were pounding on the windows and doors as his wife and children were terrified ?
    That’s right, they swarmed the Rove home and pounded away screaming and threatening him and his family – hundreds of hate filled violent libtards.
    They didn’t just phone in some threat or say something in a blog.
    Nope, in the streets, across the street, on the lawn, up to the doors and windows, banging away and screaming.
    I guess the Rove’s were lucky the doors were locked at the time.
    The lib pieces of crap have zero room to talk, period.

  • kate8

    We are up against nothing less than pure evil here. The godless must
    first eliminate everyone who is moral, ethical and believes in God-given human sovereignty.

    The same playbook. You know, marginalize, ridicule, persecute, eliminate.

    The media plays the biggest role. Truth is whatever they say it is.
    Look how many they have turned off to the biggest issue of our time-
    the usurption of the Presidency by a foreign operative. Obama aka
    Soetoro, with his 16 SS#’s and dubious background which no one can
    find evidence for. But hey, those of us who want him to prove himself are the loonies.

    This is why we are toast. The media tells us how to think, and most of
    us parrot it. This makes it all so easy for them. They’ll start hauling off our neighbors in the dead of night, and we’ll shrug and go on. Ya just never know who might be a terrorist…

    • Meteorlady

      That’s just toooooooo logical for the news media to figure out. Good point.

  • Jim H.

    Bart Stupak said he was recieveing threatening calls to his house and his family was being harassed the week before the health care vote. Since he didn’t change his stance on voting against it because his pro-life view until the day of the vote and the threats were coming in a week before, wouldn’t stand to reason the earlier threats came from the pro-choice crowd? The people for Obama care? The time line would say that.

  • Meteorlady

    So with all the cell phones and movie capable devices, where’s the pictures and proof. I think some might even be the Dems themselves or their leftist supporters. As for a broken window, what the heck – maybe some kids were out having fun. I found it amusing though that they think that Tea Party people are scary and that militant. I witnessed a tea party happening in my community and they were mostly elderly people, families, average Americans, and a few kooks and nuts.

    What I did find curious enough to follow around was the news people. They walked through the crowd and finally settled on one of the kooks to interview. Then after that they found another one – took about 10 minutes, but they did find another one to talk to. If they interviewed a normal looking person it was fast and not very enlightening. Guess kooks and nuts make a better news story.

    • Jim H.

      Peaceful people quietly demonstrating doesn’t sell news. The news agencys aren’t a public service to provide us information, they are a business. A reporter was quoted to say if it bleeds it leads. People who just watch the news see the “news worthy” kook and get the impression that every body there is like that.

  • kate8

    Many years ago Bill Ayers made the comment that he figured 25million
    people would need to be eliminated – those who couldn’t be “re-educated”. Today, the numbers are much higher.

  • Jim H.

    Kate8, 47 years ago those old nuns educated me and that was enough, ol Bill won’t do better.

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