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Homosexual House Speaker Takes Heat For Endorsing Civil Unions Bill

May 20, 2011 by  

Homosexual House Speaker takes heat for endorsing civil unions billThe nation’s first openly gay House Speaker, who serves in the State of Rhode Island, has angered many advocates of same-sex marriage by backing legislation that would legalize civil unions for homosexual couples.

Late last month, Gordon Fox (D-Providence) pledged his support for a law that would allow civil unions for gay citizens. His decision has triggered protests from gay-rights groups that believe Fox has turned his back on many of his supporters.

“In my opinion, he’s a self-loathing homophobe,” Gary D’Amario, who recently attended a rally at the Rhode Island State House, told The Associated Press.

Fox has defended his actions, saying that many people do not understand the political process. He told the news provider that the civil unions bill is a calculated measure that, if approved, will be a step in the right direction for gay couples.

Meanwhile, the National Organization for Marriage’s Rhode Island chapter has slammed the bill, calling it “an engraved invitation for the court to mandate same-sex marriage,” The Providence Journal reported. The group claims that the legislation does not properly define marriage as a union between one man and one woman, and it provides a divorce mechanism for gay couples that is similar to marriage.

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  • DANNY

    I love my dog and he loves me. Can we get married?

    • Michael

      Yes, if you love your dog and he loves you, and you can find a minister
      who will marry you, you can get married… you just can’t consumate your
      marriage… sheesh

      • http://naver samurai

        Too much lib kool aid. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Grizzly Mom

    For Gays it’s not about marriage, it’s about taking a part the family. They currently have all the legal protections any marriage does. It stems from knowing in their hearts what they are doing is wrong but wanting society’s stamp of approval to justify their actions. They are free to marry any women they want and for a woman any man she wants- that is marriage by definition. One man and one woman. They are only 11% of the population, just say NO and hold our representatives accountable.

    • James in NY

      Grizzly – tell me how gay people have all of the legal protections of marriage. Can a gay couple jointly file a federal tax return? I have a gay American friend who has lived abroad and has been in a 13 year monogamous relationship with a man who was not born in the US. My friend would like to move back to the US to care for his aging parents but he would not be able to legally bring his partner to live in the US. He would be able to do so if he were in a heterosexual relationship. What about gay families with children? I love how the intolerant say they oppose same sex marriage because they are looking out for families and children. What a lame argument used to hide the hate. Gay people have children and families too.

      • http://naver samurai

        Why is it your morons always scream hate when we don’t accept your unnatural lifestyle? Kind of agressive on your part, isn’t it moron? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • eddie47d

          What is aggressive about wanting equal protection or rights? Why the nasty name calling every time Samurai, I don’t believe that is God’s way. You are right up there with Rev Wright in all your smack downs lately.

          • http://naver samurai

            First, tell me what God given rights, under the Constitution, have been taken from them, then we can continue from there. Show facts and sources and not just mere words. Sorry edduh, but their way of living is wrong and you saying you are Christian wouldn’t accept this lifestyle if you were one. Can’t be a Christian and live in rebellion to the Bible. It doesn’t work that way, edduh. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • eddie47d

            You want to shut too many people out of our political and financial process because you don’t agree with them. They will always have equal rights in my eyes like any other American.

          • http://naver samurai

            I agree with you they they do have the same rights as any other American, but are given extra protection under the law. If someone were to assult them, due to a person being gay, they would have extra time added to their sentence and it being classified as a hate crime. I could understand that if someone assulted someone for their race, nationality, or religion, because these are what is needed to be classed as a minority in this country. Behavior, yes any sexual acts are considered behavior, isn’t covered by this, as far as I’m concerned. You talk about political and financial areas, why? That has nothing to do with the subject of their perverse lifestyle. Just in case you want to know, how would you know if the person that came into a store to shop was gay? How would you know edduh? Unless you knew the person or they volunteered information (The person says they are gay.), you don’t know do you? Financial would be the same thing. Politics? It’s hard to keep anything hidden in politics as someone always finds things out about you. If I were to run for office, one of the things they may say about me is “Oh dear, he killed people in Iraq and Afghanistan.” Or maybe that I have a wife from another country. Or maybe because I don’t look good (Some women stated that was the reason they voted for Obama bin Laden over McCain. Useless voter!). Or maybe because I’m Christian. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS COMMING FROM MY MOUTH? DO YOU READ ME? By how much you support them, I would think that you and Robert Smith would be very close friends. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Tony

          Gotta love Holy Rolling Bigots. Are you gay? If the answer is no, then why do you care what everyone else does with their lives. Worry about yourself. It has nothing to do with you. P.S. I’m straight

          • http://naver samurai

            You’re wrong moron. If you hate or not like someone because of their race, nationality, or gender, then you are a biggot. Sexual orientation is not covered in these three groups. First, gays cross color lines, in both genders, and in many different nationalities. Second, being gay is a sexual perversion and is the opposite of what God made. Third, if you don’t believe me, then look these up:

            Genesis 13:13
            Leviticus 18:22
            Leviticus 20:13
            Romans 1 verses 26-28
            1 Timothy 1 verses 8-11
            Jude 1:7

            I think you’re just a plant, but if you aren’t, I be expecting you to read these and give me an honest answer. Ooops! An honest answer from a lib? I need another cup of coffee. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Michael

          For which God, and which Country bucko ???
          For some reason, I think your version of God comes totally out
          of the old testament, while mine is the God of Jesus.

          • http://naver samurai

            Your wrong dude! God and Jesus do love them, but DO NOT ACCEPT THEIR LIFESTYLE. You can’t use Christianity, God, Jesus, or the Bible to justify your immoral lifestyle. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://naver samurai
      • libertytrain

        I’m not arguing with you – I do want to point out that it is not always simple to just bring a girlfriend boyfriend, spouse, etc in a heterosexual relationship either.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        james NY
        I know two different people in hetero relationships that wated all of seven years to be able to get their spouse legally immigrated to the US! SAME RIGHTS!!!

    • crystal

      Where are they 11%. It’s closer to 1%. It’s only in the big cities (i.e., New York, Chicago, San Francisco) where their population is at 10-11%.

  • jimster

    Can you say alamony?

  • femi

    it is a shame that people of the same sex can come out openly to get married, when the creator defined marriage as the union between man and woman. Let us wait to see the end of this kind of relationship.

  • del

    James in NY – Not condoning gay marriage does not equate to hate. We all have our own views of right and wrong. Expressing opposition to others beliefs isn’t hate. Do we hate our children when we don’t agree with their behavior? NO! Homosexuals label us as homophobes and haters because we don’t condone their actions. Grizzly is right – in their hearts they know it’s wrong and they want our approval to justify their actions. When our approval isn’t given, they vilify us in an attmpt to shame us into accepting their immoral behavior.

    • eddie47d

      Grizzly is absolutely wrong though in saying gays have equal protection under the law. Probably just the opposite. I think gays can have equal rights under Civil Unions as long as these unions are honored in every state. You can have your opinion and life style and they should be allowed theirs. Neither has to be seen as an infringement on the other.

    • http://naver samurai

      100% agree. They just want to have their cake and eat it too.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D529HBoHW1c&feature related

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • James in NY

      It is not so much an issue of condemning or condoning. The issue is rights and the fact that those opposed to marriage equality look to deny rights to people born gay. I don’t care what your personal opinion is of people born gay. If you are not comfortable with the idea of same sex marriage, I fully support your right to marry someone of the opposite sex. But don’t look to deny me my rights, rather live and let live. As a gay American, I am just as much entitled to the protections guaranteed by the constitution as heterosexual Americans are. For those trying to play God, I will meet my Creator some day and I am prepared for that. Americans who look to deny rights to other Americans can only be described as hateful.

      • http://naver samurai

        Sorry James, but how can you be born gay when NO GAY GENE HAS BEEN FOUND? You need to stop lying and realize what you did was your decision and nothing to do with DNA. Your choice, your responsibility, your having to take the repercussions comming back on you. That’s the way things go as adults, no other way possible. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Michael

      A little mind game here.

      Imagine that you wake up tomorrow morning and your body is that
      of the opposite sex.

      Now your mind, values, desires have not changed, only your gender.
      Your body is now female.

      Are now going to be automatically attracted to men, and thus
      be (given that you are a man) just because you have the body
      of a female

      Or

      Are you going to still be attracted to females, thus drawing the ire
      of all the ranters…

      My daughter asked me that many years ago.. and.. yes.. I would
      be a lesbian if my outward sexual markers switched.
      Most men have a lesbian in them trying to get out.

      Think about it… because that is how a lot of lesbians feel..
      wrong body.

      • http://naver samurai

        Sorry, but you still lose on this one. Being gay IS NOT A MENTAL DISORDER NOR HAS A GAY GENE BEEN FOUND! You people need to get over telling these lies over and over again. This immoral lifestyle wil never be accepted in this Christian founded nation, so just give up and go home. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Dee

    These gays and lesbions can live together all they want, I don’t give a damn. But when it comes to the sanctity of marriage, it should not be allowed.

  • DC

    At one time I thought that gays could not help being gay but as I have matured in my knowledge of the Bible I understand that all sins are chosen.

    • http://naver samurai

      100% agree! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • GI

    As the Rhode Island legislatures pass each other in the corridors of the State House, like their ancient Roman counterparts, with the right hand tap their chest salute saying, Hail Caligula!

  • Michael

    I can not see why the concept of same sex marriage brings out
    so much vitriol. Let gays marry, but on the same front, remove
    all benefits that they get because the can’t marry. No more
    partnership benefits, no more being able to register a same
    sex partner to get health benefits.. just exactly the same
    benefits and liabilities that married opposite sex couples
    go through. Divorce and division of property, child support,
    spousal support, and all the rest of the contractual issues
    which married people have to face. I have a very strong feeling
    that they do not really know what they are asking for, and that
    the majority will just shack up to avoid these issues.

    I had a lesbian foster daughter, and learned a great deal about
    the realities she was facing. She voted conservative, owned guns
    and had no desire for a “legal” marriage. She and her partner
    designed a document giving each other the right to act in the capacity of a “spouse” in medical or legal issues, had a lesbian
    minister say some words over them, and to them, they had everything
    they wanted…

    Oh.. unless you send your wife/daughter into seclusion during menses,
    stone your neighbor for working on the “Sabath” (sat or sunday ??)
    (not get stoned with your neighbor), sacrifice a bull (bbq’s do not count) and all the rest of the nonsense in Leviticus please do not
    quote the admonition of men laying with men (doesn’t say women).

    The bible does have errors (is it thou shalt not kill or thou shalt not commit murder (hint, its murder)) and the old testament has a
    lot of things which you would not obey in this day (do you eat pork?)

    Jesus is what Christianity is about, and I have not seen one word
    about homosexuality in His words, and I doubt if he would not be
    forgiving to them if he did. Homosexuality is NOT a choice, it’s
    a condition that many (like my daughter) were born with. While
    I am sure that there are many who choose to be with the same sex (bisexuality ??) for a lot of people, that is how they were born..
    AND please do not bring up that “God doesn’t make mistakes” when it comes to sexual orientation, as there are thousands of children born
    with terrible mistakes that cause life long problems, or early death.

    So… while I find the gay day celebrations to be dumb .. should I
    be proud that I am “straight”.. this whole thing is a tempest in a teapot, and is pushed by the radical left to cause coronaries in the radical right. If God did not create gays, then He did not create children with cleft pallet to aids. We have enough to worry about
    with a marxist incompetent looney toons president

    • DC

      If you will read Romans it will answer many of your misconceptions of gays being OK because Christians are not under the law of the old testament but under grace. That being said you do not know Jesus and continue to choose to sin every day. Unnatural sex is a sin!

      • http://naver samurai

        Hooooorrrrraaaaahhhhh! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Michael,
      PROVE THAT YOUR DAUGHTER WAS BORN GAY!!! You can’t, because there is no gay gene!!

      • http://naver samurai

        SOS DD from the lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxists. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Michael

        1.) She had never had any attraction to males, only females.
        2.) She was very pretty, but in a masculine way.
        3.) Her demeanor was much more masculine..than feminine.
        4.) She knew that her attraction to females was who she was at 12 years
        old, most certainly not making a “choice” at that age.

        Sheesh… People are born with all sorts of genetically caused differences.. so why o why do you think (and you can not prove your
        point either) that sexuality can not be caused by a change of
        hormones while in the womb. I have read a number of studies which
        state that a large amount of stress can create the conditions
        for sexual orientation which is different than that of the body.

        And to all of those who profess to follow the OLD TESTAMENT..
        DO YOU EAT PORK, DO YOU SEND YOUR WOMEN INTO SECLUSION, DO YOU SACRIFICE BULLS TO GOD.. DO YOU STONE YOUR NEIGHBOR IF HE/SHE WORKS ON THE SABBATH ?????? I thought not.

        • http://naver samurai

          First stop lying moron! NO GAY GENE HAS BEEN FOUND! Second, do you eat pork? Do you eat cheeseburgers? Do you wear clothing made from more than one material? Since I know these answers to be yes, you just need to be quiet. You should have gotten your daughter to go to church so she could learn the errors of her decision. A parent that just thinks, well they’re gay and that’s OK, is a bad parent and not deserving to raise children. I know, since I have four of my own. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Cawmun Cents

          No I do not follow Levitical law.But I do not send a goat into the wilderness(scapegoat)to absolve my city of sins,nor do I slaughter a perfect lamb for my own sins(atonement)in the temple of God(if you are commanded to have a Levite sacrifice a lamb in the temple for you,to atone for your sin…guess what,you cannot,since the temple no longer exists).There are approximately 300 or so Levitical laws which are near impossible for us to keep in the modern day.Many would involve breaking federal,state,and local statutes,not to mention the ones that would force you to go to a foreign nation to complete.So where is your argument leading?I for one cannot tell.For if you do not follow all of the laws then God has promised that you will be cursed and therefore seperated from Him.That kind of busts a hole in the bag you opened doesnt it?Bottom line is if you allow the homosexuals to legitimize their deviant behavior(an abomination according to biblical scripture),Then where is the line drawn that stops deviant behavior from being considered normal?Answer that question and I will accept your dissertation.-CC.

          • http://naver samurai

            Good answer and I agree 100%. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Richard Pawley

            Already there are those advocating for incest and polygamy and while polygamy existed in ancient times as in does in the Muslim culture there has never been a time when a nation accepted homosexual marriage and survived. The family is the primary cell of government. When it is destroyed then there is little left to hold civilization together. There are many who believe in God and those who reject him or believe in a god of their own imagination, but there are also many tens of thousands of former gays and lesbians who have been healed by Jesus Christ. They are no longer ‘gay’. A better writer than I could make a good book about some of their amazing stories. Of course this goes against the lawless ‘agenda’ being promoted in our schools by the gay elite, those who want to be considered ‘whole’ when they are not. ALL OF US have lessons to learn in life and some are much harder to learn than others but “With God all things are possible.” God does not hate gays but since what they are doing or are attracted to is unnatural it has consequences that I am unqualified to judge. Those who also understand the damage to the soul that alcohol, drugs or homosexuality cause need to be pointing out cases where those who were alcoholic are no longer; and those who are drug addicts and are no longer; and even those who were ‘gay’ and are no longer. It isn’t as easy as turning off a switch for any of those but Jesus is always there, and he rejects no one who turns to Him. For those who have an interest in what Jesus taught, you can read the gospels, but I also highly recommend the classic paperback, GOD CALLING, edited by A. J. Russell. Over two dozen people have it available on eBay and it should be Christian bookstores as well. There is nothing about homosexuality in it but it contains over 360 different short things that Jesus told a woman in England over a ten year period some 75 years ago, about what is important and what is not, about the power of prayer, and God’s love for us and many other things. I recommend it to gays and straights alike who have an interest in what Jesus really considers important and I have never met a person who was interested in learning about God who read the book and did not get something out of it. Wholeness is something that all humanity is seeking, whether they know it or not. Somewhere in the Old Testament (the Bible that Jesus read and believed) it says “Seek me with all your heart and you will find me, and I will give you the desires of your heart.” Sometimes this takes a long time, but as one of the two friends who prayed together for years in GOD CALLING was concerned about how much there was to learn and how long it took, Jesus said to her, “What are you complaining about? You have forever to learn it.” There are those who are claiming to speak for Jesus, even spirits, but one of protections we have is that a spirit from God will never say anything that clearly contradicts the Bible. Over the decades I’ve noticed the clarity with which I have heard occasional things and while they answered questions I had (some I’d never even thought to ask, like is there other intelligent life in the galaxy and how far away is it – see Space and Beyond, the Epilogue at the end of my autobiography LEAVING SOUTH CAROLINA) I have observed that while some of the things I heard in the spirit satisfied my mind and answered my questions they did not refute anything said in the Bible but they might not have answered the same question from someone who had not learned what I have learned. I am thankful that as a follower of Jesus I too have forever to learn all there is because some lessons take a long time, even when you are trying to learn. The sad part is that there are many who seem to have no interest in growing, as if this short span of years was all we had. There are many false books purporting to contain conversations with God that are not, but GOD CALLING is one of the genuine ones and I recommend it to all. May God bless all who read this.

  • Henry Ledbetter

    God’s view of marriage has always been one man and one woman even as he took the rib of Adam and created the woman Eve just for him. Hebrews 13:4 tells us that Marriage is honorable in all and the bed is undefiled but whoremongers and adulterers GOD WILL JUDGE. What God is saying.is that any sex outside the bonds of marriage of one man and one woman is sin and there is an immediate judgement of God on these actions. Many of the problems in our society today stem from the affairs outside the marriage bond. In the case of homosexuality not only is there a judgement of God but it invokes “the wrath of God that is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who hold the truth in unrighteousness.. Rom. 1:18 If you read on in Romans, those that practice this lifestyle are given over to a reprobate mind to do those things that are unseemly among themselves. Any nation that embraces this lifestyle will one day be overtaken by the wrath of God and at that point there will be no remedy. Repentance of any sex outside marriage bond of one man and one woman should be our lifestyle today if we want the blessings of our Lord God.

  • newspooner

    People of all religions should follow the example of true Christians and be loving toward all people. Tolerance is a virtue. That does not mean that approval must follow. In fact, it is a disgusting thing for people who claim that they want tolerance to also insist on approval. Approval is totally the right of the tolerant person to give or withhold. When people insist on approval instead of graciously accepting tolerance, they show unmitigated bigotry.

    Marriage has been defined for centuries by society in general. It is not the right of government to define marriage. Marriage is between one man and one woman. Nothing else is valid. If we let government get away with redefining marriage, it will be able to get away with redefining anything, and all liberty will be lost.

    • http://naver samurai

      100% agree. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Cawmun Cents

      What you are doing is tantamount to talking to a wall.These”defenders of gay whatever”have no interest in hearing what you or I say.They are only interested in forcing their agenda on people who dont want agendas forced on them.Much like the current adminstation,who says that healthcare is a right,then fines you if you choose not to exercise that right,they are only interested in the destruction of real rights.They will make normalcy a crime eventually.The one thing they do not full realize is what is in store for them.It is sad that human beings force their agendas on others,but you might as well get used to it.You will do as you are told until the rights to you are sold.

      • DC

        You are correct it is all about power! Just look at the White House being run by the Antichrist and a bunch of Chicago gangsters.

  • James

    God’s Law says: “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them” (Lev. 20:13).
    However, in Lawrence v. Texas (2003), the Supeme Court told God to take His law and shove it!

    • Michael

      Does GOD’s law say… Thou Shalt not Kill, or does it say
      Thou Shalt Murder… if you say “Kill” then what did Joshua do to
      the inhabitants of Jericho when the entered the land of Milk and Honey.

      The translation was WRONG for years. but the bible has no mistakes, does it ???

      BTW.. I am a Christian through and through, I have seen real live Miracles from the Holy Spirit, and been part of them as well.
      So.. I know, not just believe. There have been way to many people
      who have used Jesus to justify to most atrocious behavior making
      them look more like Muslims rather than Christians.

      The idea that gays are going to destroy marriage is laughable, as hetrosexuals have already done a very very good job of that.

      As I said, let them marry, and let them also have the negatives which
      come from marriage. Also remove all of the looney lefts privs given
      to gays, like allowing them to have special treatment in law or in benfits… no more registering your domestic partner to gain benefits.
      The morons on the right are no different than those on the left, just different hot buttons.

      • http://naver samurai

        If you really believe these things you say, then fine. But don’t say you believe these things and call yourself a Christian. It’s inconceivavle to call yourself a Christian and live in rebellion to the Bible. We are to try to get them to come to God and Jesus and leave their immoral and unnatural lifestyle behind. If you don’t know that, then you’re not much of a Christian. I’m glad that performing such things in Indiana is against the law. This is also God’s will. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • eddie47d

          Samurai; The rapture did not take you to Heaven on the 21st so how about just trying to get along. The homosexuals walk this earth no different than you and have lives to live also.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            eddie,
            your ignorance shows again!! I didn’t see anyone here say that is was going to happen! I did see a couple relate the story as it was reported in the news. the Bible tells us we will not know the day ahead of time!

          • libertytrain

            Joe – I was thinking the same thing. Wondering where he was seeing what he was acting like was stated somewhere on this thread. No one I read bought into that story. :)

          • http://naver samurai

            First edduh, yes the rapture didn’t happen. I’m still walking on this earth. Second, yes they also have lives and are walking the earth. But there is no way that someone, who lives an unnatural immoral lifestyle, is the same in evry way as everyone else. Where do you get those facts from? Ooops! I keep forgetting that you don’t believe in posting facts or sources. I’ve already posted some, so why don’t you look at them and then answer them? Talk about trying to get along, well I’ll get along with them as soon as they stop trying to make themselves the same as everyone else. It’s not possible to say a normal person and a sexually perverted person are the same. You show me where it says that in any of our founding documents. Ooops! I forgot that behaviour isn’t covered in any of them. Libs lose again. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • James

        Michael, “Thou shalt not kill” is one of the Commandmments. However, Exodus 21:12 requires: “He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.” Thus, ‘kill’ in the commandment meant murder. The slaughter of the seven kingdoms by Joshua, every man, woman and child, was ordered by the Lord. The Lord said: “as captain of the host of the Lord am I now come” (Josh. 5:13-15). The Lord persoanlly participated in those wars, he has enemies and an agenda.

    • DC

      Christians are not under the law of the Old Testament but in Romans it tells us that that the law teaches us what sin is and that unnatural sex is sin.
      Anyone that says the gay lifestyle is OK or says they are gay does not know Jesus and is living in sin.

      • James

        DC, Matthew 5:17-19 reads: “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”
        ‘Jot’ means the smallest letter, and ‘tittle’ means the smallest part of a letter. And in memory serves me, ‘heaven and earth’ have not yet passed.

  • Michael

    oh, in my above post, I meant to say, “Thou shalt NOT murder” lest someone should point to that as and “error” in my argument.

  • Albino.

    Wow…… You lot love to use science when it suites your cause! “First stop lying moron! NO GAY GENE HAS BEEN FOUND!” Then in another breath you cast it out as blasphemy!

    How do you decide on what’s good science and what’s bad science?

    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic (Arthur C Clarke).

    • http://naver samurai

      My points stand as facts and cannot be disputed. Care to site sources that say otherwise? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Albino.

        Samurai…… The burden of proof is on you as you stated “NO GAY GENE HAS BEEN FOUND”, and then again “My points stand as facts and cannot be disputed”…..?

        But I’ll save you some time, I don’t believe there is a gay gene, it’s more likely a mental issue, as is religion. But that’s more of a psychologist’s field.

        My question was…… “How do you decide on what’s good science and what’s bad science?” As I see from some of your post you use science, while in other you totally cast it as being blasphemous.

        Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic (Arthur C Clarke).

        • http://naver samurai

          I understand what you are saying, but these morons are always using science as a crutch and have no sound basis for this debate. Since science has many umproven theories, it cannot stand for theories are not facts and cannot stand. Second, I must remind you that in 1973 the APA stopped classifying homosexuality as a mental disorder. That’s about all I can say for now. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • James

          Albino, scripturally, whether a particular gene is to blame or not, it doesn’t matter, God’s law says two men having sex is a capital offense, and they were to be removed from society.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    The gay marriage bill passed in New York by a thin margin; obviously by a few ‘republic-crats’. I heard a question raised here, which should also be a concern in any state which passes such a bill. Will churches and their ministers be protected?? To be exact, will they still be able to refuse to perform same-sex wedding ceremonies?? Let’s not forget the 1st Amendment, which gives us the right to worship; INCLUDING the right to NOT do what goes against our Christian-Judeo faith. It’s not just about gays or lesbians. I know of at least one pastor who refused to marry a heterosexual couple because the guy was more of a redneck than a Christian. There are liberal churches which I’m sure will marry same sex couples, so let gays and lesbians go there, and leave our churches alone!! Again, having lost a (gay) cousin to AIDS, I have to say it’s possible to hate the sin but love the sinner. We are all sinners. Doing something privately (as in the previous DADT military policy) is one thing. But being proud of one’s sin, getting in our faces with it, encouraging it, and pushing for legislative acceptance and respect of sin, IMHO, is a complete outrage. Instead of more moral decay in our nation, what we need is more ‘defense of marriage’ acts, which a majority of Americans support. We should also get rid of liberal judges who rule against the will of Americans, and in favor of militant LGBT groups by striking down bills defining marriage as between a man and woman.

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