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  • JLouisK

    We need to outlaw Tobacco and Booze if we are going to keep treatiing addictions as if they were crimes. They need treatment at their own expense, not imprisoned. Community service might be a good way to train these addicts for purposeful work and rehabilitation.

    • Vis Fac

      They tried to outlaw Booze once and repealed the 18th amendment. Booze like tobacco is taxed the government would never loose out on an opportunity to levy a tax. Community service is useless just ask Paris Hilton or Lindsay Lohan or any other Hollywierd loser.

      Make the punishment severe enough and you’ll have the solution to many problems. The only drawback is liberal one dimensional idiot-ology thinking we must be humane.

      The streets are rife with repeat offenders of every crime and the liberal mentality is to keep putting them back into society. Then complain we should have more gun control when they shoot people.

      “Never waste an opportunity to exploit a tragedy” even thou you are responsible for the tragedy in the first place!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • Oldmonkey

        The 18th Amendment was repealed because of the mobsters and the gangs it created to treat a more or less victimless crime. Legal or not it did not stop driving under the influence which is prosecuted resulting in serious penalties; and the same should be true for drugs.
        There are laws regulating the conduct of individuals with certain professions, which don’t necessarily have to change. In Virginia Beach Virginia a condition of continued employment for public employees for 25 years has been being a non-smoker.

        Drugs and prostitution should be reasonably regulated and taxed. I am sick and tired of a nanny state or big brother sticking their big fat nose in my business. Other than number of occupants, age, and languages spoken which might be useful in times of war, race & ethnicity of a family shouldn’t be on the census either

        • Vis Fac

          That too however the underlying cause and effect is always economical. I don’t see how a public entity could enforce a person to be non smoker. Civil liberties come into play and an average attorney can shred that kind of statute. However a “private” enterprise can impose such conditions.

          I too am sick and tired of the NANNY state regulations for there are issues of more importance to deal with. As far as I am concerned if you want to speak your native tongue in your own home fine. But id you want to communicate and or assimilate into OUR society you need to learn and be proficient in English. It was a REQUIREMENT when I was an immigrant and wanted entry!

          A democracy can best be described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch with a well armed sheep contesting the vote!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est

          Semper-Fi

    • stevestrib

      Addicts? Tobacco and booze are much more addictive than something like marijuana. Although I agree with your comment, addict is not a fair term to use. Most are just users. Not addicts. Huge difference between the two. You can do drugs and be successful. When you do drugs and it has a negative affect on your life, but continue doing the drug, then you are an addict.

      • JLouisK

        I was being facetious. Prohibition never works.

  • snowdog76

    This is the first time I’ve ever agreed with Holder.

    • Vis Fac

      Holder said this because he has no idea how to fight drug abuse. He says things like this so he can focus on destroying OUR constitution and covering up for ODUMBO’s continued malfeasance of office. The head liar is clueless about what the USAG is supposed to do so he tries to “wing it”. I guess if one throws enough poop on the wall some of it is bound to stick. Personally I think anyone who sells drugs should be eliminated. I have my reasons!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

      • snowdog76

        While I agree with Holder on this, that doesn’t mean that I’ll magically start trusting him, or believing him that he has my back, or believing that he can do anything, or blindly following him like a MSM puppy. Quite the contrary. Ditto for his boss.
        Whatever the political agenda behind this, this is the right thing to do. “Tough-on-crime” has failed. It’s a waste of time, money, and lives to lock people away for decades because we’re mad at them or don’t like them, or vengeful for personal reasons. Let the punishment fit the actual crime. Don’t make the punishment fit the worst imaginable version of the crime.
        If you want to eliminate minor non-violent offenders, be sure to pledge your allegiance to Emperor Palpatine and don your stormtrooper uniform first.

        • Vis Fac

          Once someone loses credibility (at least with me) it is difficult if not impossible to regain it. I have this problem; I question everything I have since I was about 8 years old. I developed a habit of conducting a considerable amount of research prior to making a decision, and those decisions like my opinion are seldom altered.

          We all have known people who say what you like to hear One of those now occupies the White House (as did all those who preceded him). I have a difficult time believing anyone who suddenly reverses policy when all previous actions have been polar opposites.

          Is Holder’s sudden reversal a ploy to divert attentions from all the other scandals and malfeasance of office? More than likely! Maybe he has other plans he wants to implement under our collective noses. Only time will tell. Time we are running out of. To say that I would trust him as far as I could throw the Capitol would be an understatement.

          A democracy can best be described as two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch with a well armed sheep contesting the vote!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est

          Semper-Fi

    • trp878

      When and for what did u get busted?

      • rhondareichel

        I have never been busted and I think this war on drugs is a CROCK

  • trp878

    I think they should pardon all criminals thus they will get a clean slate and can start anew. No different then making laws more lenient. After all a crime is a crime

    • rhondareichel

      The punishment should fit the crime then….locking up people for drugs is a waste of time. Portugal sends theirs to rehabilitation and they have greatly reduced drug use….10 years now

  • trp878

    Some of you were born to late, should have been around with the women and their temperance societies.

  • mr_bandit

    Will holder acknowledge the will of the People and stop going after MedPot?

  • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012

    My first thoughts of what Holder stated on the Statistics of which he stated ““While the entire U.S. population has increased by about a third since
    1980, the federal prison population has grown at an astonishing rate —
    by almost 800 percent,” he said. “It’s still growing — despite the fact
    that federal prisons are operating at nearly 40 percent above capacity.
    Even though this country comprises just 5 percent of the world’s
    population, we incarcerate almost a quarter of the world’s prisoners.
    More than 219,000 federal inmates are currently behind bars. Almost half
    of them are serving time for drug-related crimes, and many have
    substance use disorders. Nine to 10 million more people cycle through
    America’s local jails each year. And roughly 40 percent of former
    federal prisoners — and more than 60 percent of former state prisoners —
    are rearrested or have their supervision revoked within three years
    after their release, at great cost to American taxpayers and often for
    technical or minor violations of the terms of their release.””

    This tells several tales of which way our society is going. First Statistics shows that Whites are procreating less and Blacks and Mexicans procreate like Rabbits contributing to the explosion in our population growth. Our Population growth is further exploded due to open borders and failure to enforce immigration laws.

    Holder States that our population has grown by about 1/3 (33%) in the past 3 decades and our Prisons have grown at 800%. Stats also show that though the black population makes up about 13% of our society, 48% – 54% of our prison population is comprised of blacks. The Mexican ratios (17% of Pop) are different largely due to DHS and Obama’s refusal to enforce laws and release Mexicans who have committed crimes including immigration crimes based solely on their race.

    So basically what does these Stats tells me?

    1) The Obama Administration along with the assistance of DHS (Napolitano) and DOJ Holder are allowing way to many violent and criminal minded immigrants into this Country burdening our society to deal with criminals of the world.
    2) Another story it tells me is that apparently we have way to many laws to achieve such high rates of incarcerated, though we refer to this Country as a “FREE” Country. People white and black get caught with some roachs in their ashtrays and off to jail they go, but a Mexican with a criminal record of assault and/or rape and/or Robbery is set free due to their race and immigration status.

    What message does this send the mexicans and other immigrants by which are running from the law in their Country? They commit crimes in Mexico and other Countries and come to the US knowing they likely will not have to pay the Consequences and once here they continue on with their criminal lifestyle with no fear of consequences because there is little risk of apprehension and if they are apprehended, Napolitano and Holder demand that law enforcement release them.

    Questions that rise to me over Holders position is this, taking into consideration that Holder stated since 1980 (3 decades), so this is no new issue to him. Why is it he has come out with this mandate 5 years after he has become AG?

    Why do they refuse to enforce immigration laws particularly to the hispanics?

    Why are they (Liberal Democrats) so adamant to excuse those who violate US laws and turn a blind eye to immigration laws?

    Is it to gain votes and increase their voter base? They can’t very well win elections if they are locking up their voter base. So they look for and find excuses as to why they should release their voter base so as to vote. Democrats release these criminals, who will these criminals vote for in the coming elections considering the populations they are seeking to release are largely made up of Mexicans and blacks, Obviously they will vote Democrat.

    Furthermore, what is Holders motivation to make these mandates in which he knows will largely benefit “his people” being the blacks since they make up half or nearly half of the prison population. So why after 5 years of him holding this office has he become motivated to take this stance? A gut feeling tells me its all about elections and votes and “freeing his people” perhaps to try to make a name for himself such as MLK in his own sick and twisted mindset. A name in which Streets and events are named after in honor of him. What I do know is that it has nothing to do with concerns for prison populations. If the numbers were turned and it was predominantly the whites incarcerated for these crimes and previously registered Republicans, Would Holder still be so motivated as to make mandates in which will end up loosing money to these privately owned prisons.

    The white population will get out of jail and seek jobs and become tax payers, the blacks will get out and seek welfare. They have lived their life behind bars on the tax payers dime, They were likely living off the tax payers dime prior to incarceration in the form of welfare and when they are released they will likely jump right back onto welfare along with jumping right back into the drug and alcohol habits in which landed them in prison in the first place.

    Which brings up another point, Liberals are so against drug testing for welfare, yet go to any large city and you can easily find people selling foodstamps and other government benefits handed to them to acquire cash so they can buy drugs and alcohol. As a standard work requirement for the tax producers of this Country, nearly all as standard employment procedure are mandated to take drug testing prior to employment to receive money, yet welfare recips can receive the tax payers money without similar drug testing mandates.

    Is it because they cannot get a job because they fail every employment drug test they take or they just are not motivated to do what it takes to get a job because they know they can rely on welfare to be handed out to them and still maintain their drunken drugged up state of minds. Equal drug testing mandates to collect welfare as there are for employment would drive these idiots into either cleaning up their act and become productive citizens of this society or wither away and die in some dumpster on a back alley. Either way, they will get off the backs of the hard working tax payer and become a productive tax payer or be gone.

    Amazingly, You go to Federal lands and will find signs that state “Don’t feed the wildlife species, as they will become dependent on humans to sustain food and not know how to get food on their own” Yet we feed nearly 50 million homo-sapiens species that have become dependent on others and cannot not or will not be independent and are not motivated to survive on their own.

    • rhondareichel

      Don’t let anyone fool you….PRISONS ARE BIG BUSINESS

  • NObama_Holder_Reid_Pelosi_2012

    Our Country where people purportedly have “Freedom” yet we incarcerate 25% of the worlds prisoners. Does this sound like a Country that is Free? Or does this sound like a Country that has become overwhelmed with laws and regulations and mandates yet people are indoctrinated to think that this “Is the land of the Free” as if no other place on Earth has Freedom. They have people busted for possession and/or distribution of weed in prison for longer sentences than people who have assaulted, murdered and/or raped. How many people die in this Country due to stoned drivers versus drunk drivers? They keep drugs like weed illegal because it is a good money maker for law enforcement, lawyers, courts and prisons all paid for by none other than the tax payers. It is not illegal because stoned people are a threat to society. The drunks in this Country pose a far greater threat to my family than people who get stoned. The likelihood of my wife and kids getting killed by some person stoned is far less than some drunk either killing them in a car or trying to rob them. People cannot handle their alcohol, many are angry drunks, thus is why there are always bar brawls. People who get stoned are always mellowed out and not aggressive.

    • rhondareichel

      I’m with you on that….it’s crazy what we have been doing….check out that graph on the link above….that’ll show you how it spiked in the 80’s when the war on drugs peaked.

  • guest

    While lowering the penalty for drugs sounds like a good thing, is this not again over-reach, who died and made him boss? If he can lower penalties arbitrarily, can he not then raise other penalties, you called that person goobledigoop you go to prison for pick a number. This is a state function, I thought.

    • rhondareichel

      it should be a state function but with the lapdog congress what does it really matter> (as Hillary would say)

  • rhondareichel

    WE’RE NUMBER ONE ! Ugh….what a sad fact….way worse than communist China even.

    He’s still been raiding medical marijuana clinics recently….shame on him for denying sick people —when he did it rereationally. Romney was the same about medical marijuana too….they are both fools. Why not, their buddies like Dick Cheney are getting rich off private prisons….and the taxpayer gets screwed paying for all of this. SUCKERS !

    I’d much rather see murderers, rapists and child molesters locked up longer, but thanks to these mandatory minimums for drug offenders guess who gets released early?… murderers, rapists and child molesters Remember when California swung wide the prison doors because they were BROKE ….well that could happen here too…. wait for it

    Not only does the US have the highest incarceration rate in the world, but also the highest number of all prisoners worldwide. At 5% of the world’s population, the US imprisons a fourth of the 10 million reported prisoners globally. Of 218 nations surveyed by the International Centre for Prison Studies, the US ranks No. 1, far and away jailing more of its citizens, by numbers and percentages, than China, which ranks 118.

    Are Americans much more criminal than the rest of the world? Somehow I doubt that so there must be a problem with our laws. Anybody else surprised Holder came out yesterday announcing that we needed a change ? What’s the matter? Obamacare costing too much?

    http://www.activistpost.com/2013/08/is-obamas-war-on-weed-coming-to-end.html

    Just look at that graph. This expense is wasteful and unsustainable….could that be the motivation for the complete reversal by Obama? Got to pay for Obamacare now….can’t afford to keep as many people in prison. I think this is SHAMEFUL. Is this why we let the Mexican drug cartels in the country? to fill up our prisons too?

    That spike beginning in the mid-’80s is a direct result of the 1984 Sentencing Reform Act, along with state level mandatory minimum sentencing laws:

    Sources: Justice Policy Institute, Bureau of Prisons, and PEW Center on the States

  • rhondareichel

    war on drugs….war on terror…..more like war on the TAXPAYER

    • guest

      Hi Rhonda,
      Benghazi makes a difference regardless of what hill might think
      IRS makes a difference regardless of what obomination thinks
      Extortion 17 makes a difference regardless of the media burying it
      Weapons to Egypt makes a difference
      oboma care not makes a difference

      if we the people allow holder, who I think is still illegally holding Zimmerman’s gun, to illegally, arbitrarily because he says so change the laws across the nation with the swipe of his mouth, what have we wrought

      I agree it is a great idea, make the crime and punishment fit each other but not the way he says and poof it is done

      We have laws, systems to enact, correct, amend not DICTATE and it is done

  • Robert Messmer

    One of the biggest problems with drug laws is the corruption of the police forces and the judiciary. Since so much of the “enforcement” is done “undercover”, police officers are forced to handle, distribute and sell illegal drugs. They have to hang around and otherwise associate with drug dealers. More than once police officers have crossed the line, furnished protection to one drug dealer to eliminate another. In most jurisdictions there are no such problems concerning tobacco and alcohol– because both are legal, citizens can obtain them from several entities without fear of going to prison. Do away with drug laws for adults and only punish criminal behavior not useage. I would suggest that we do need to change the attitude of “its not my fault cause I was drunk or high” to primia facia evidence of intent if one is under the influence. In other words, instead of charging the drunk/high driver with vehicular homicide, by virtue of being drunk/high the charge and punishment is murder one.