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Herman Cain’s ‘High-Tech Lynching’

November 4, 2011 by  

Herman Cain’s ‘High-Tech Lynching’

Six months ago, a virtually unknown candidate for the Republican nomination for President predicted that he would be the victim of “the same high-tech lynching that [Clarence Thomas] went through” — once he became more popular with voters.

Congratulations, Herman Cain. That is exactly what has happened.

I knew very little about the former CEO of Godfather’s Pizza when I was asked to introduce him at a large conference in Las Vegas last July. And to be honest, neither did most of the audience. The overwhelming majority of the people who packed the ballroom that night were there to hear the speaker who would follow Cain: Kentucky’s newly elected freshman Senator, Rand Paul.

By the time he had finished his rousing, passionate address, though, Cain had made many new friends among the 2,000 or so people who heard him. In fact, many of them followed him to a private meeting upstairs, where he received several donations and pledges to help him reach more voters with his message.

Thanks to his magnetic personality, his unflagging energy and his novel policy proposals — including his 9-9-9 tax idea — Cain has climbed in the polls as rapidly as others have fallen. So it should come as no surprise that his prediction last May is also coming true. The smear campaigns have begun.

Just like with Thomas, the media dug up an unproven, decades-old allegation of sexual harassment. And virtually overnight, it was treated as the most important story of the month. CBS News led its evening broadcast with it. The New York Times put it on the front page the next morning — and announced that it was assigning seven reporters to track down the facts. (Read: Pass on every nasty accusation and unproven allegation they can find.)

Cain has denounced the accusations as being “totally false.” Many people who worked with him at the National Restaurant Association, which he led when the rumored harassment took place, have leapt to his defense. But no matter. The smear artists of the national press think they have found a nice juicy bone to gnaw on. And you’d better believe they are going to do everything in their power to chew it — and Cain’s aspirations — to pieces.

None of this should come as a surprise to Cain. After all, here is the rest of the quote that I used at the beginning of today’s column: “I’m ready for the same high-tech lynching that [Clarence Thomas] went through – for the good of this country.”

Of course, if any white conservative comes to Cain’s defense, it will just be more proof to those on the left that we are racists.

Think I’m kidding? Listen to what Karen Finney, a former spokesperson for the Democratic National Committee, said on MSNBC last week:

“One of the things about Herman Cain is, I think that he makes that white Republican base of the party feel okay, feel like they are not racist because they can like this guy. I think he is giving that base a free pass. And I think they like him because they think he’s a black man who knows his place.”

Knows his place? Cain thinks his “place” is in the White House! How’s that for being “uppity?”

In the twisted logic that passes for thinking by the left in this country, it simply isn’t possible to be a black and a conservative. These liberal do-gooders actually believe that every minority in America is beholden to them. They view any black who has the temerity to be a conservative as a traitor and a turncoat. If they can’t convert black conservatives or frighten them into silence, then they will try to destroy them.

The worst example of this in my lifetime was the campaign to destroy Thomas’ reputation and aspirations. I had seen nothing like it since the communists and their allies set out to ruin Senator Joe McCarthy. Unhappily for our country, they succeeded with McCarthy. Happily for us, Thomas stood up to the worst they could throw at him and emerged victorious. Thank goodness we have someone of his rock-solid character, powerful intellect and unwavering adherence to the Constitution on the Supreme Court. I wish we had half a dozen more like him… of whatever color.

Many on the loony left honestly believe that if white conservatives don’t like the policies of Barack Obama, it means we are racists. And if we’d much rather see Cain in the White House, that really proves we’re bigots.

Don’t look for any logic in this rationale. There isn’t any. The left loves to rig the debate. I can’t tell you how many variation of the “you’re a racist” argument I heard before, during and after the 2008 Presidential contest. No matter how calmly we presented our objections to some new socialist scheme from Obama and his “community organizer” buddies, you knew there would be some liberal somewhere who would denounce us as “racists.”

This well-worn slander worked for a while. But today, almost everybody is fed up with Obama’s failed policies and arrogant posturings. The few remaining exceptions are students, intellectuals, Hollywood elitists and union members — or, as someone remarked about the Occupy Wall Street protestors, the homeless, the jobless and the clueless.

And then along comes Cain, the fast-food entrepreneur with a skin that is several shades darker than the current occupant of the White House. His rise in Republican polls is driving many on the left absolutely crazy. They simply can’t believe that an intelligent, successful black in America can be a conservative. And when they find one that is, their fury knows no limits.

So their only recourse is to do what Cain himself called a “high-tech lynching.”

I hope Cain is strong enough to withstand all of the lies, smears and nasty allegations the left and their allies in the media throw at him. I suspect he is.

I also suspect that many Americans are sick and tired of such mudslinging — even when (or especially when) the perpetrators are the self-appointed guardians of the public good on network TV and the national press.

Please do your part to expose their lies. Your country will thank you for it.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood 

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • Debbie Gore

    Being female, and having gone through a legitimate sexual harrassment suit (I was the victim) during the exact same time frame as thomas was happening, I did sympathize with the ‘victim’ on that suit. It is true many women do not come forward due to the proceedings that follow and being ostracized once again trying to prove you are telling the truth.
    I am hoping I get the opportunity to vote for Cain for president. I consider myself a fair and honest person, and I do believe in this attack on Cain it is a pathetic attack with something that was already dealt with in his past. I pray others have enough sense not to follow the ‘herd’ mentality and exaggeration’s with the media. That’s how we got this president. It’s amazing what media/marketing can do. Cain is the first candidate that doesnt ‘run’ from legitimate questions. In my view all the rest are your typical ‘politicians’. This attack on Cain has not swayed my vote for him in the least, as I’m sick of unethical tactics the politicians use.
    Debbie Gore

    • madog2

      Even if he, and I’m sure he didn’t, slapped a female on the but it doesn’t mean he want make a good President. I think that if all the demwitocrats including Kennedy Edwards and Clinton etc. that got a pass then so should Cain. As I said it does not keep him from being a good President. All he needs is a good forign affairs VP.

      • Bruce D.

        I would agree with you on that madog2. Just the fact that they had to go back ten years to find something of this sort shows desperation on the part of the left. Even if he did invite the so called third woman up to his room she claims she said no and it did not affect her job in any way and that was the end of it. So what’s the big deal?

        • JUKEBOX

          I believe Herman Cain should carry a hangman’s noose and a cross with a handful of nails to every one of his rallies, and invite his opponents to finish his lynching and crucifixion. The driveby media would go apoplectic.

      • wandamurline

        These people did the same thing to Sarah Palin in 2008….they even broke their necks to get to the 24,000 emails when they were released, and only found she was a hard working governor. Now they are investigating Cain….but they never, ever investigated their Messiah Obama….where did he come from? Why won’t he release his college records and passports from the 80′s? Why did he and his lovely wife both “voluntarily” gave up their lawyer licenses? And the biggest, why did three young men whom rumor has were having a sexual affair with Obama while he attened Rev. Wrights’ hate America church, suddenly die within one month of each other, right before Obama hit the road in 2007 to campaign for president, one died of natural causes, the other two were shot professional style? Why doesn’t someone investigate that?

        • denniso

          If the charges are ‘totally false’ and ‘entirely fabricated’,then why were the women paid off w/ a yrs salary? The media or the left is not ‘lynching’ Cain…these women didn’t come forward first,but rather the story was leaked to the media,and Cain blames the campaign of Rick Perry.

          Sexual harassment is serious and not a petty charge. All executives and CEO’s know this by now,so why would Cain allow himself to even come close to doing that?

          Do the rightwing supporters of Cain know that he was on the board of the Fed?

          • Patty

            Because thier accusations were baseless and/or petty. They must have known this, or why would they settle for such a petty amount? It would be to thier benefit to keep thier mouth shut, least what the left wing media will do to push them to the fore front will certainly not be worth the pay out, embarassment, and hassle of having the media camp out on your front lawn.

          • FreedomFighter
          • Old Henry

            Well Dennis, it is much less expensive to simply pay a few bucks up front than to spend many, many, many times that paying attorneys.

            Also, remember that “sextual harrassment” was to the 90s what the Witch Trials were to the 1690s. Remember that 6 year od boy who was suspended from skrewal for kissing a little girl on the cheek?

            Besides I thought that sextual harrassemtn was validated and made okay by the chld-molsting rapist dick-for-brains on the 90s.

          • Old Henry

            Patty:

            It appears that that is exactly what is going to happen now.

          • JUKEBOX

            I can tell by your remarks that you have NEVER been involved in any kind of lawsuit. Many conservative politicians have been bankrupted by defending themselves against FALSE accusations. Sometimes it is cheaper to file a NOLLO CONTENDRE.

          • eddie47d

            That video could be used to describe the left or the right in how they would treat those they disagree with.Denial can be and is spun from both sides.

          • JeffH

            denisso, try telling us something that we don’t know for a change. Humor us, fool us…tell us that you’re a hater and that you’re mentaly unstable.

          • Art

            Denniso, If Herman Cain is the Republicrat nominee, we will hear a big sigh of relief coming from the Federal Reserve building. See — not all of us rightwingers are hornswoggled by Mr. Cain. On the subject of wings: At the sound of the trump, I’d rather be right, than left.

          • Blueshoes

            Denniso,

            You amaze me as to how totally ignorant you are. Every article I read and find you on it, you just never learn anything. Try reading and intelligent things instead of the comics.

            First of all, Sexual Harassment can be: “Your hair looks good today.” “Boy, you have a great smile.” “Do you drive to work or take a bus.” “Is that a new dress? I’ve never seen you in that one before.” “How long does it take for you to get to work in the morning?” “You remind me of my wife, when you smile that way.” “Yes, I’ll have a coffee… sweet. I like things that way.”

            None of these have anything to do with sexual harassment but the person can, in THEIR mind, take it as something sexual… intentionally, by mood or attitude.

            As for being “paid off”. In some cases, that’s what the women wanted and that was the reason for their claim. Others, it’s just a matter of letting the person go because your organization does NOT NEED that type of employee, that is either mentally ill or troublesome. A “Go Away” settlement.

            Get an education, Dennis… O!

          • http://Evangelinestraub@gmail.com Truther

            Can anybody actually believe a litigatious person, who sues for no real “damage!”, for easy money? People have said mean things to me that were clearly sexual, and those made me angry. Did I think of sueing? never! So “she says,and “he says” and guess what, i think i would rather believe a man who actually rose from poverty,earned his money the responsible way, has the courage to leave the” slavery plantation” the Democrats have persuaded most blacks is paradise, is actually clever without the propaganda the ” Harvard Prop offers,” and is an unapologetic Christian. Nobody is perfect, and since Democrats protected clinton who may have actually raped a woman, and defend a pres. Who is bankrupting this country, i believe they are in no position to criticize Cain.

            A person such as Cain is special, and it would be a shame to give up on him for no verifiable and good reason

          • Desert_Fox1015

            So what if Mr Cain was on the Fed board, if you would do more research you would find that alot of CEO’s and even Governors sit on this board. They do it in an advisory capacity. This little advice comes from a Retired E-6 with some college behind him. Oh, yeah, I’m also a High School dropout.

        • ALL AMERICAN

          I AGREE. INVESTIGATE ODUMBERS HOMO LIFE.

          • JUKEBOX

            Israel will conquer the entire Middle East before Obama is investigated.

        • Jenny

          Thank you for saying what has been on my mind! Why in the world did they not check the past history of their “Mesiah”? Just a short investigation would have brought up enough questions to at least shelve him until the next election, using the time to thoroughly vet him. What a mess this wonderful country is in because they didn’t! The entire synopsis sickens me. Now that the door is open, it will be next to impossible to close it. The hurricane-force winds have been loosed.

          • http://Evangelinestraub@gmail.com Truther

            My dear, you are presuming that Cain is guilty! Verbal abuse is not like raping, and with so many mean spirited people saying all sorts of hurtful and really damaging things, often protected by ” freedom of speech,” It may also be helpful to know that during the time of these accusations, many women were suing for “sexual harrassment,” and getting offers for settlement despite lack of merit, for reasons of expediency. The fact that the settlement for this case was so low is proof that this accusation has no merit. And shame on her lawyer for voicing her accusations while allowing her to keep her identity secret! Believe me, this person will come out once she is offered substantial money or a lucative book deal. Mark my words.

            As for you, be careful, what goes around comes around. A little kindness and fairness is always a good thing!i

          • Jenny

            Dear Truther, I believe you took my statement wrong. I am 100% on the side of Herman Cain. I was referring to “Their Mesiah” who was not vetted in any way. I have 2 Cain T-shirts and a bumper sticker on my car. I am not in any way assuming that he is guilty. Sorry about the wording that made you think I was. jenny

        • oldtimeyman

          Wandamurline: Check back on this link http://itistreason.wordpress.com/ every day for the next few days. I’m working on a story about Ovomt’s fag background and the murders.

      • Ranger 1

        Boy, would he ever need a “great” foreign affairs V.P., because Herman doesn’t appear to know anything about the rest of the world, (“we need to stop China because they’re developing nuclear weapons” . . . . . . . . sorry Herman, we’re a bit late! China has had nukes since at least 1964) and while one formal complaint about sexual harassment might be questionable, a total of three complaintants, all of whom are reluctant to be exposed for fear of their jobs, pretty much means Herman is probably a serial sexual harasser, and I’m sorry, but that definitely speaks to his character. At least with Clinton and most others, the sex was consensual. Not so with Herman. I also take umbrage with the characterization of “high tech lynching” that Chip referred to, including Clarence Thomas. If anyone has actually read the one or two legal decisions Clarence has put out, you’d realize that he, like Herman, is also an idiot!

        As a lifelong registered Republican (although the last one I supported was Eisenhower), I hate to say it but Obama is going to win in a landslide in 2012. Oh, maybe not quite as big as in 08, but he’ll win for certain, and that’s because the jerks heading up my party at the present time are obviously morons!!!! Look, Obama is really vulnerable; he’s pissed off most of his youthful supporters because he’s failed to deliver on over half of his promises from 08 (that’s why the Tea-Baggers took over the House in 2010, simply because only 1% of the 18-25 yr olds bothered to go to the polls because they were “ticked”, while in 08 over 18% of that demographic group went to the polls, and almost all of them voted for Obama).

        If the Republican leaders had any intelligence, they would do the following:
        1) Go along with a huge tax increase on the top 1%, like over 60% of the public wants. If you crunch the numbers, it should be easy to convince Billionaires and Mega-Millionaires that it would be to their fiscal advantage to pump more of their tax dollars into a proposal like Obama’s current plan, only go him one step further and double it! As anyone who’s taken Econ 101 knows, putting more money into the hands of the middle and lower classes results in them spending every last penny on demands for goods and services, new businesses start up, and the economy soars. Hell, the Dems figured that out 60 years ago, which is why anytime we have a Democratic administration, the economy takes off, as opposed to all recent (starting with the biggest idiot, Reagan) GOP Presidents’ who still believe Milton Friedman’s disproven and thoroughly repudiated “Supply side” economic theory, because the rich would fare far better in a booming economy, even if they’re paying higher taxes, than in a depressed economy like now, when they’re paying very little in taxes.
        2) Support the Occupy Wall Street movement, which has probably several orders of magnitude more support than the Tea-Baggers could ever muster in their wettest dreams! Polls show that for every demonstrator (not the few rowdies) holding a “down with Wall Street” poster, there are thousands of citizens who agree with them. The Republicans should try to co-opt that movement, like they did with the Tea-Baggers, who were initially opposed to the current disparity of wealth until their movement got co-opted by the Koch brothers, Karl Rove, and other numbskulls like Grover Norquist (a “pledge” to avoid raising taxes on the rich??? That alone may have lost the Republicans any chance in 2012). The Republicans have got to return to supporting the populist movements, like they used to in their early history, or 2012 is going to be another disappointment. Look at the numbers. Of all the registered voters in this country, 49% are Democratic and less than 33% are Republican, with the rest being independents, Greens, Libertarians, Peace & Freedoms, etc. All the Dems have to do is get a good turnout and they’ll swamp the Republicans, and the current Republican-led House reluctance to support any jobs issue is going to kill them! Unfortunately, I’ve called every national election correctly for the past 40 years. Those neophytes the Tea-Baggers got in in 2010 have not helped our cause one iota.
        3) Find some decent, intelligent, electable candidates. I don’t think this country is ready for another D minus, imbecilic President like Dubya. (who managed to go through 8 years without ever learning how to pronounce NUCLEAR!) The only one so far is Jon Huntsman, from Utah, but he doesn’t appear to have a prayer. Stop allowing nuts like Marcia Bachman, Rick Perry, Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, and even Mitt Romney to clog up the air waves with their non-sensical, illogical, flip-flopping on issues drivel. Thank goodness complete loonies like Sarah Palin and Donald Trump bowed out early.

        I’m very pessimistic that the Republican party will find wise leadership this next year, so I guess we’d better all come to grips with having to say, “President Obama” for 4 more years. We CAN do better, folks.

        • Sandra M.

          There are too many proofs in your writing that tells me that you are really Democrat or liberal disguising as a Republican. Go back to Politico or Huffington!

        • Matt Newell

          I agree you have a democratic way of writing (goofy).

        • http://Evangelinestraub@gmail.com Truther

          Ranger, it is amazing how every liberal actually think they are intelligent– is that why you and they actually name call. Even that singer Belafonte calls Cain stupid when he has no education! For your info, Obama got very low grades while at Occidental Univ.and then got admitted to Harvard! Now, how did that happen? This is beyond affirmative action.

          When one gets into government, they appoint experts in Foreign Affairs. The important thing is one has the security and welfare of this country as his first priority, and the wisdom and chracter to make wise decisions. Obama certainly fails on all this, plus he does not even like this country! I’ve met so many of these country hating liberals while taking graduate studies here as a foreign student. That always perplexed and bothered me.

          This is a good country! Let us not let political affiliation divide us.

        • Desert_Fox1015

          If His Majesty ‘Mr O.’ gets his way and the taxes are raised on the so-called 1% you’ll see more people loosing their jobs and the cost of everything going up. How would you like paying $10 for a loaf of bread, or $12 for a gallon of milk, or even $20 for a Ham Sandwich which cost about $1.50 now?

      • Kay Morgareidge

        PLEASE learn to write the English language. Get a dictionary to help your spelling, and proofread. I agree with what I think you were trying to say, but clarity demands better writing skills.

    • Marilyn

      I don’t believe this has anything to do with his race. Three women stepped forward because of their concerns…three of them. That shows a pattern. He lied to the people and he was caught in those lies. He had an inkling that he would be exposed and that is why he is running on the race card. Not only that, but his responses to the allegations shows his complicity. His story changed too many times. He has NO experience in politics and that is evident in his speeches. We need a candidate that is not a flip flopper and a Constitutionalist that will bring us back to what our founding fathers gave to us. I only see one campaigning that has that track record…Ron Paul.

      • winolet

        As far as Cain changing or adding to his recollections; did you know where you were on such and such a date in 1980 (or any year in the past) and can you recollect exactly what you did on that day? If someone asked me to defend a statement or action I did in the past, and if I couldn’t remember (and it was important), I would keep thinking about it and eventually things would come back to me little by little. I am sure that is what happened to Herman Cain.

        • Dave

          I certainly would remember something as big as three Harassment charges. Maybe not what I was wearing or what I had for dinner. But these things happened, the settlements, and he damn well knew all about them. Why didn’t he prep himself even after he admitted he knew they were going to come up. Come on He’s running for the office of the most powerful person in the country and the world.Noway does he have my confidence any more.

          • Nelson

            Don’t let the media confuse you, there was only ONE filed harrassment, so how could he remember 3? Also, don’t forget that the liberal media is all over this and will and do state non-facts just to keep a story going.

          • pilot

            Well Dave, — I guess then that he should get even more backers, and
            increae his lead in the race! It worked for “Slick Willie”,- Lewinski made him a folk hero,- (to say nothing of his continual insinuations) and exposed affairs outside his own bedroom! Now Ted kennedy “the olympic swimmer”,- didn’t lose much forward progress after He took that “unseaworthy boat” off the pier, at Chappaquitica either! And our current leader – under the pall of “unproven citizenship” is not a doing all that badly either,— or is he??
            Would Herman Cain be a “hero” if he WAS a Democrat??

          • Bruce D.

            His story was not clear enough for sure. His campaign manager should be fired for his poor showing on the matter. It is possible he would have done better if he just told the media that he said something not appropiate and regretted it -if- that is what happened. Then refuse to talk about it anymore because he doesn’twant to contribute to the feeding frenzy and because there is noth more to the story.

          • Don

            If you believe all the liberal lies then you are a liberal, so why don;t you go back to msnbc, cbs, huff post, or where ever you come from and get lost, you people make me sick !!

          • ALL AMERICAN

            You might as well jump from the Sears tower if the media tells you it is healthy to do so. Don’t be a media sheep…
            Mr Cain is just fine.

          • Old Henry

            The LSM did not make Mr. Cain.

            Cain made Cain with the help of God Almighty, so the LSM will not be able to bring him down unless he caves, and I don’t see that happening. This guy BEAT CANCER. The LSM are simply another malignant tumor that he will overcome.

          • JUKEBOX

            Hey Dave, do you trust Obama, Matthews, Carney, and all of the other purveyors of bovine fesces explicitly? Sorry for using more than one syllable words.

          • eyeswideopen

            Nelson, as usual, the facts are not important to the radical right are they? Just so you know, there were two suits, on settled for 35k and the other for 45k. It was a years salary for each woman who had to quit their jobs. The third incident was not filed, as the other woman knew that the other two had filed and hoped that he would change his actions.

          • JeffH

            eyes talks about facts and yet provides nothing more than hearsay. So much for the facts.

            Anyone can make allegations of any nature including predatory lawyers. It does not mean they are true, nor does it mean that if two women did receive separation packages that it was due to harassment. Sorry, I prefer facts rather than rumors and allegations. Until these women come forward and can be grilled on the facts and why they settled, it’s all hearsay. Until the NRA confirms the alleged payments were made because of Cain’s mis-conduct it is nothing more than political conjecture.

        • Liberty Minded

          Excuse me! You mean you wouldn’t remember a paid settlement, that is so lame. Here we have not one but three women coming forward which tells me this can’t be a set-up. At the very least, Cain has compromised his integrity. Ron Paul is the only honest statesman we can vote for.

          • ALL AMERICAN

            Dude, you’re braindead if you want to vote for a guy that thinks a nuclear Iran and N Korea is not an issue and says he’ll do nothing about it. Do your research pal.

          • Buster the Anatolian

            Hill and Bill “forgot all about” their investment in Whitewater and that was a significant investment for their income level at the time. When it was revealed all you liberal dupes gave him a free pass on it.

          • Old Henry

            Well AA, Dr. Paul is exactly crrect. Why is it ANY of our busness what any other sovereign country does as long as they do NOTHING to us? WE ARE NOT THE WORLD’S POLICEMAN.

            India has nukes. Israel has nukes. We have nukes and WE are the ony country to have ever used them. So, all other nations should demand that we disarm.

            This country has been sticking its nose into other countries business for 60 at a minimum. What has it gotten us? Bankrupcy.

            Do you tell your neighbors what they should drive, what they should buy at the store, how they should raise their kids? I doubt it because IT’S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

          • eddie47d

            Bill wasn’t given a free pass on Whitewater but there really wasn’t much there. They lost their investment like others did. They were conned like thousands of Americans are each and every day in these kinds of investment scams.The crooks who plotted this bad deal should have gone to jail and not harrassment of innocent investors. The whole situation was over blown by the right wingers for publicity.

          • Patty

            Clinton didn’t get a pass, but he was bailed out. That was the scandal. Whitewater:
            Most of Clinton’s involvement in the Whitewater scandal took place while Clinton was governor of Arkansas. Whitewater is the name given to the alleged banking and real estate scandals of Clinton and his friends. After money loss and a failed real estate venture, an illegal method to recover the losses was conceived. The scandal involves Clinton allegedly pressuring Arkansas Small Business Administration (SBA) worker David Hale into making an SBA loan to Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan. The money from the loan was then funneled out with cashier checks and personal accounts (many under false names) to pay for Clinton’s debts from the failed Whitewater land project. In other words, tax dollars bailed Bill and Hillary out of a financial crisis after illegal means were used to acquire them.

            The President’s friends and land deal associates, Fmr. Gov. Jim Guy Tucker and Jim and Susan McDougal, who were involved in Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan and the Whitewater land deal, were recently convicted for their involvement in the scandal. Subpoenaed billing records of the Rose Law Firm, which Hillary Clinton worked for and which is involved in Whitewater, mysteriously showed up in the White House in January 1996. Among the finger prints on these records were those of Hillary Clinton. While this case has been open for several years, facts are still being revealed. President Clinton testified on behalf of his convicted friends during their trial. After countless trials and hearings, Susan McDougal refuses to speak on the issue, though a bailout check signed by her, and with Clinton mentioned on it, has been displayed as evidence Mysteriously, few reasons exist for her to remain silent except what many allege to be pressure and/or threats from Bill Clinton. This scandal is still under investigation. Over a dozen convictions have come from it thus far.

          • Patty

            Eddie – here is a site with his other scandal problems:http://gopcapitalist.tripod.com/clinton-scandals.html#Whitewater

          • MNIce

            Mr. Cain did not pay a settlement – the National Restaurant Association agreed to a settlement deal with the plaintiff’s attorney, after Mr. Cain left his position there. At most, he might have received a letter informing him that it was all settled and he didn’t have to worry about it any more, so long as he agreed to keep it all confidential. I’m sure as CEO of a national restaurant chain, he’s had to deal with dozens of legal matters over the years (on the order of the infamous McDonald’s hot coffee suit), so this would be just another hassle to forget about when it was over.

          • http://www.revoltingmedia.org Jesse Wooding

            Actually, Cain was not a party to the settlement. The N.R.A. was, but he had nothing to do with the settlement. The organization handled it with lawyers (and likely insurance). The organization’s lawyers handled it, leaving Cain in the dark about it all. Even if the N.R.A. manages to lift some of the confidentiality clauses from it, he would not know directly what is in the settlement unless it comes to light by either the lawyers or the accuser mentioning it.

          • Rick

            Come on now Old Henry, you’ve got to put everything into it’s proper perspective here. The leaders of India, Pakistan, France, or any other freedom loving nation have not publicly stated that they would use nukes on another nation if they had the capability. Iran’s Ahmadinijad has done just that! When you have a loose cannon with more than a few marbles rolling around in their head, and nothing else between their ears, telling the world they would use a nuke against Israel if they could you have to sit up and take notice. How many times have we heard this nut case get before the U.N. or some other world forum and say he believes it is his duty to wipe Israel off the map and if that means turning his own country red with blood then so be it. Then he goes on to say that his people will be martyrs as a result of it. Kim Jong Il has already been proven to be unstable but at least his rhetoric hasn’t come out and public threatened another nation with the use of a nuclear weapon. But if you let a madman like Ahmadinijad get nukes and he follows through with just one lobbed over Israel then all bets will be off and, I believe, Kim Jong Il would not hesitate to launch several of his at that point.

            Ron Paul may be brilliant where domestic policies and our financial problems are concerned. I’ll give him that. But his consistent remarks on foreign policy are ludricrous to say the least and shows how naive and/or ignorant he is when it comes to foreign issues. And ignorance in those matters is enough to get us all killed. One other area I’ll give him credit is the fact that he hasn’t flip-flopped on any of his positions so at least we know where he stands on the different issues. But when I first heard him say that “he believes Iran should be able to obtain nukes if they want to and it is not our place to tell them they can’t have them” I pulled my support for him immediately. And I WAS one of those in his camp rooting for him. Not anymore and never again.

          • moebears

            Rick, Old Henry and Ron Paul are right on the money. Iran can’t even get itself together to make a gallon of gas. Furthermore, they are not suicidal. They know that if they even looked like they might launch a nuke (assuming they can even get one made), they’d be blown off the face of the earth before they hit the button. How’s our current foreign policy working for us? Pretty crappy, I’d say. We’re bombing and occupying left and right, and fast running out of money, not to mention our troops are already spread too thin. The ones coming home are ending up with more serious injuries than ever before, and we can’t even take care of them. Ron Paul is the only one with the right foreign policy. If Ron Paul isn’t elected, this country will go down, faster and faster.

          • Buster the Anatolian

            Bill and Hill got a free pass from the liberals. They insisted since Bill and Hill said they forgot all about the investment it must be true. There is no way they forgot all about the investment for it was a significant amount for them at that time. If Bill and Hill had said something to this effect “yeah we invested in it and lost our shirts” very little else would have been said.

        • DaveH

          Yes, for sure Cain has a poor memory:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bYzqtAEn20

          • Patty

            I watched the video. It is a twisting of words out of context to get thier biased point across. Typical liberal media type stuff.

          • DaveH

            Given the choice to trust Ron Paul, or to trust Herman Cain, there would be no contest for me.

          • JUKEBOX

            His recollection surpasses Obama, Holder, Napolitano, and Clinton combined by threefold.

          • Patty

            Agreed.

          • http://deleted Claire

            DaveH–I didn’t care for Cain even before all this crap hit the fan. I didn’t trust him before and I still don’t trust him now. I saw Ron Paul on MSNBC the other morning. If I had a choice between the two of them, it would be for Ron Paul. In a heartbeat.

        • Patty

          All of this is so past history. I work with attorneys in my business. 3 of them have been slapped with harassment, protected class type lawsuits or threats of them. ALL baseless. All paid 5 figures just to make them go away. Because of the loud mouthed so-called women activists, when a woman claims harassment, everyone cowers. I have seen more women flirt and harass men than I have seen visa versa. It is to the point where you cannot have a conversational exchange with someone of the opposite sex, or a private conversation without some busy-body eves dropping and then putting thier 2 cents worth in telling you how you were just sexually harassed. Have I been harrassed? You bet. Did I take care of it. You bet. Did I sue? Not worth my time. Those women would be wise to keep thier mouth shut. From the exchanges that have been published of the so called harassment, they were not harassed at all. The one that has come forward and said he invited them to his corporate apt. I question if that conversation ever took place. For a group on the left who gave Wm Clinton a pass when he used state troopers to be his “wing men” and bring women to his hotel room, expose himself and tell them to kiss it, what can they possibly be thinking???? Same rules must not apply as usual, same old, same old. Bottom line, this is a none issue. Drop it, move on.

          • ALL AMERICAN

            Thank you, Patty.
            Well said.

          • JeffH

            Patty, HEAR HEAR! A lot of time and money can be spent on these types of accusations, whether true or not. The board of the National Restaurant Association along with their legal council are the one that will make the decision to fight or pay to make the alleged allegations go away, not Herman Cain. In most cases, I’m sure it’s much cheaper to come to an amicable agreement just to avoid the negative press and the cost of a hearing/trial.

            As others have said, how convenient that these allegations have have become public at a time when Cain is leading all comers in the polls. Coincidence? Not even close!

            Ron Paul/Judge Andrew Napolitano 2012

      • libertytrain

        I’m wondering why these women waited till this prime moment to come forward. I’m a woman. I’ve seen a lot in my life but I get tired of this kind of crap. Maybe it was real, though we don’t quite know what it was and what they deemed harassment. Maybe it was not real… convenient though…

        • Patty

          Ditto that one sister!

        • eddie47d

          Why was it a Republican who exposed this yet you blame the Liberals. Why did Cain blame the Republican Perry campaign without any proof.You ought to go to the source of these allegations instead of rolling over on Liberals. Take your fly paper somewhere else and catch those Republican presidential spiders who are smacking each other down and place them in your web of intrigue.

          • JeffH

            eddie, was it a Republican that leaked the story? Did you little crystal ball tell you that? The actual source of the leak is unknown, so put that in you pipe and smoke it!

            Cain and Mark Block, his top aide, blamed Rick Perry, then they backed off.

            The response from the Perry camp? To blame Mitt Romney.

            Aha! they said. Evidence of the possibility that maybe Mr. Romney’s aides were behind the story. Not true, said the Romney camp.

            But wait! A brief report in The Washington Times quoted an anonymous source who believes that Rahm Emanuel, the former White House chief of staff, now the mayor of Chicago, is also involved. A friend of the Cain campaign believes a National Restaurant Association employee out of the Chicago office leaked the story to the Perry campaign via information and influence from Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s office.

            words from this old Elvis Costello song may provide the answer…

            Blame it on Cain
            Don’t blame it on me
            Oh-oh, oh, it’s nobody’s fault
            But we need somebody to burn

            Blame it on Cain,
            Oh-oh, oh, please don’t blame it on me
            It’s nobody’s fault
            But it just seems to be his turn.

            http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/the-blame-game-on-herman-cain/

        • eyeswideopen

          libertytrain, this is one of your guys who witnessed the harrassment. The women didn’t seek out the media, quit the reverse. The witness to Cain’s repeat actions, is a republican, Chris Wilson. http://biggovernment.com/awrhawkins/2011/11/02/audio-political-consultant-claims-he-witnessed-cains-alleged-harassment-refuses-to-discuss-details/

          • JeffH

            eyes, in your haste to hate all things Republican(hasn’t yet figured out that both parties are full of scum)you don’t even know if libertytrain is a Republican supporter. You can be such a dufus sometimes.

            Political Consultant Claims He Witnessed Cain’s Alleged Harassment; Refuses to Discuss Details

            This morning, on KTOK’s “Mullins in the Morning” (Oklahoma City), Oklahoma political consultant Chris Wilson (WPA Opinion Research) claimed that he had been a witness to GOP presidential frontrunner Herman Cain’s alleged sexual harassment of a former female employee some twenty years ago.

            When Mullins pressed Wilson to provide details on what he supposedly witnessed, Wilson declined, citing a reluctance to be drawn into legal disputes. He would only say: “If she comes out and talks about it, like I said, it’ll probably be the end of [Cain’s] campaign.”

            Chris Wilson is a Republican American pollster and political strategist who has conducted hundreds of public opinion studies for over 100 of the Fortune 500, influential associations, foundations, elected leaders of the U.S. Senate, U.S. House of Representatives and state governments. Wilson served as Executive Director of the Republican Party of Texas when President George W. Bush was governor, working directly for Karl Rove.

            I can only spectulate that Wilson’s allegiance is to the “Beltway Republicans” and to preserve the status quo that exists in our government.

          • libertytrain

            Eyes – my guy? You’re the one who continuously claimed to be a registered Republican on this site – I’m an independent —

          • libertytrain

            Jeff, I expect they will be coming out of the woodwork to make claims of what they saw. I’m not a Cain backer, but I’m sick of the lib left trying to crucify the black men that are not lib left. They are so racist they will do anything to try and stop a black man from succeeding -

          • JeffH

            libertytrain, you are so right on. I’m not a Cain backer either but you can almost darn well predict he actions of the MSM and the lefties when they feel threatened, especially by a person of color or a female. What’s interesting is that Cain’s popularity in the polls has gone up which instead of the opposite. I’m content to pay attention only to the point of seeing if this situatio is true or not. I’m quite sure that many people are sick of the manipulating and just want to get the best candidate(RP)to oust the cancer from the WH.

          • libertytrain

            Jeff, it’s ridiculous when the left makes these racist slams on these black men and then like somehow claim they are not racist…I can’t quite figure how they figure…. :)

      • http://PersonalLiberetyDigest Lawrence

        Marilyn, we have a ton of experience in Washington D.C., and all of it has put America in trouble. This philosophy of experience is away of making people think, you need to know your way around Washington before being an elected official. We send so called “good people” to Washington every election, only to be inbred in several months to become dishonest and money hungry thieves. My problem with “Sexual harassment” is the definition applied by our law philosophy? We do not have equality in our law system. I’m sorry to say, but the president is not the only leader in Washington D.C., we cannot blame him only. The only way we will get our constitution back, is for the people to stand up to this corruption found in Washington D.C…”stop all donations by lobbyist”.

      • Iris

        But Marilyn, just what constitutes sexual harassment? Flirting? Silly comments that may have been meant to be cute or complimentary? The whole issue of sexual harassment came into being because it then meant the absolute requirement of sexual favors or losing your job! What has been quoted is that these women FELT uncomfortable. What does that mean????? How is Herman Cain or any other person supposed to control how someone else FEELS? HOGWASH!!!
        If Cain blackmailed a woman with job loss unless she ‘puts out’ then let us get rid of him. If he innocently or even flirtingly made a comment that is innocuous, then FORGEDDABOUTIT.

        • Liberty Minded

          Then why would he pay settlement if there wasn’t some truth to it.

          • Morduin00

            Quite frankly it is cheaper to pay someone 50K than it is to go completely through a lawsuit.

          • Patty

            It wasn’t even 50k, it was 35k. 1 years salary. It was a baseless accusation and the pay off was to just make them go away. As said earlier, it was the cheaper route to go. I process every settlement that goes through 1 of my clients’ business (attorneys, it is thier business to sue people). How many settlements have I done because it was cheaper for the company to settle? I average about 10 per week. Maybe, maybe 1 per month are actually justified. Torte reform, you betcha.

          • alex

            HE DIDN’T PAY IT

          • Patty

            Alex- Well duh! They didn’t sue him, they sued the company that he was working for at the time. People rarely sue people personally. To hard to collect.

          • ALL AMERICAN

            TO END THE B.S., BECAUSE MANY WOMEN NEVER SHUT UP WHEN THEY ARGUE A POINT. IF THERE IS/WAS CONSTANT ARGUING OF THIS CLAIM, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT MR CAINS CAREER? USE YOUR HEAD. THIS IS THE LEFT’S ATTEMPT AT SLANDER. DROP IT.

          • John Woodbury

            Liberty Minded, I remember the 90′s, men could not even sneeze whit out being blamed for sexual harassment. Remember when the suits were filed Cain was gone. I am not surprised the NRA settled, I am sure their insurance took care of it. The suit was against the NRA for permitting a atmosphere of sexual harassment, not Cain as he was gone.

        • Morduin00

          You are right. He didn’t pay it. The Restaurant Association did.

          For that matter, did he even sign the agreement? If not, can he be held to the agreement to not discuss it?

          • Old Henry

            Morduin09:

            Cain did not sign the agreement. It was signed by the attorney representing the Resturant Association – after CAin had left the Association.

            I just heard on the radio that the agreement was signed in September of ’99. (9-99) Hmmmm.

          • professor

            Sounds like the NRA kicked Cain’s rear, out the door. Then, they settled the case against them. That is probably why Cain doesn’t have details about the agreement. He was gone and not involved.

        • Karolyn

          Sexual harrassment is determined by the victim. What is innocuous to one may not be the same to another. That is why men should know better than to flirt or tell dirty jokes or make sexual remarks to women they don’t know, especially in the workplace. As in muc of the world, we live in what is called a “rape culture” where women don’t get the respect they deserve and are STILL subservient to men. (as evidenced by the rate of sexual assault and comestic violence in this country) I work in this field and am more aware than the average person of just how much goes on in the US with regard to women being abused by men.

          • Morduin00

            With all due respect Karolyn, what about the men that “ignore” comments, actions, or the style of dress from women who are above them in the corporate ladder because they would be ridiculed for making a complaint or think it is cool that a woman showed interest in them?

            Sexual harassment goes both ways but is rarely reported by men when they are harassed by women in positions of power.

            When I was in a Navy, I asked about that type of situation during a Tailhook stand-down and was told that women practice “sexual politics” and men practice “sexual harassment”. Typical BS.

            When men and women are held to the same standards, then you will see alot of these accusations disappear.

            Just as men need to shut their traps when they think they may say something inappropriate, women need to be cognizant of the way they look and behave that may bring those comments out.

            And before you make the accusation, I don’t at any time believe a woman was “asking for it” when they are raped or harassed. However, there are steps they can take to mitigate the chances of those things occurring.

          • Patty

            Oh, for Christs sakes Karolyn. True story. Guy says to a girl in the office on a Friday, So, where is the party this weekend? Her reply, In my pants, you wanna cum. Who harassed whom? Did he sue? No, but the gay guy in the next cube heard it and was offended. GET OVER IT. Everybody, get over it. Either stand up for yourself, or sit down and STFUp.

          • Patty

            Whatever Karolyn. And when you tell those women, don’t go back to that control freak A Hole, where are you next week? Back at that same door, same situation on my tax dollar. You should see a dermatologist to get that “V” (victim)tatoo removed from your forehead.

          • Old Henry

            I LOVE the Womens Movement Karolyn. Especially when I’m walking behind it…

          • Old Henry

            Patty:

            “Did he sue? Nope.” I’ll bet he showed up for the party! LOL!

            I have also noticed that we have all been mis-spelling the “H” word.

            During the 90s the spelling was changed to herassed.

          • Patty

            OH Henry! That’s harassment!! :)

          • http://deleted Claire

            karolyn–I remember years and years ago, a friend stopped by to watch me and some ladies bowl– the owner of the bowling alley came up and sat down by this friend. He told her would love to get in her pants–and she replied: Why? did you crap yours? What a comeback!! Crude, but we laughed for hours. It was hilarious. I had never heard such a comment.

          • Patty
          • Patty

            Claire – Same story only in a bar. Guy said to his friends in front of the subject “Boy, would I like to get in her pants.” Her reply was “I already have 1 a** hole in there, why would I want another.”

          • JeffH

            Claire & Patty… Excellant :) to you both!

          • Karolyn

            wow, Patty, you’re a real sweetheart, aren’t you? You just don’t have a clue – like so many people who have answers for everything.

          • Karolyn

            Morduin – Absolutely, men get sexuall harrasses and domestically abused, and we would support them just as much as we would a woman. I have heard several stories of men being raped. Of course, what man wants to admit to that?

          • Karolyn

            Claire – That’s where it starts. Why do you think there is so much domestic and sexual assault in this country? If people would take the time to actually think about it, it is very logical.

          • http://deleted Claire

            At the risk of sounding like a real prude, I think women sometimes “ask” for what they get, they are asking for the “wrong” type of attention. I see young girls waiting for the schoolbus and they look like sluts. Some women/girls are barely covered and leave nothing to the imagination. There is an older lady in my office that wears tops that reveal a lot of her cleavage. And I have heard the men make fun of her. I have to admit I like to dress and look attractive (even at my age) but it is always more intriguing to leave a little bit to the imagination. Why put everything you got on display? I like the feminine look, not the hard core way of dressing.

          • http://deleted Claire

            And what about “Opinions are like a$$h—, everyone has one.”

          • http://deleted Claire

            I am being a bad girl. Sorry.

          • Karolyn

            Claire – No matter how anyone dresses, no one deserves to be sexually assaulted. That is taking the blame away from where it deserves to be – with the man. In essence, it’s saying that men can’t control themselves when faced with sexuality. It’s he way our society is. I had a friend who was a businesswoman and wore tight suits with very short skirts. She sold dental prosthetics and was very successful. Most women shied away from her, but she was my friend. I saw beyond the clothing. She was really quite a prude. You can’t judge a book by its cover. In France there are nude beaches, and their rape rate is lower than here. In the countries that are the least prudish, there is the least sexual assault.

          • JeffH

            Karolyn, you seem to either miss or completely ignore the point that Claire was making. In your eyes, men are always guilty first and foremost. As a man, believe me when I say that women are just as guilty as men where sexual harrassement is concerned. I know first hand, flirty eyes, flirty smiles, showing a little more cleavage or a little more skin, suggestive conversation and even lying about pregnancies. Whether you’d admit it or not, It’s a two way street “darling”.

          • Buster the Anatolian

            “Sexual harrassment is determined by the victim. What is innocuous to one may not be the same to another.”

            Karolyn according to you any verbal interaction between two individuals is potentialy sexual harassment. According to you I cannot even say good morning to a person and let my eyes fall below the top of their head because it could be interprited as harassment.

          • libertytrain

            yes, exactly, sexual harassment is in the eye of the purported “victim” – that’s what makes it kind of bogus.

        • Old Henry

          I seem to remember hearing a report early in 2009 bout women having a harder time than men in the White House. However, it seemed to drop off the radar.

          • Patty

            Why? Was Hillary trying to pick up women, again?

          • Rick

            Probably for the same reason a female Chief Petty Officer I worked with was found to be having a harder time than the men on the base we worked… she got caught using a vibrator in the ladies head one day. Ended up not helping her career too much. And this was the same CPO that would get her panties all in a knot if a guy said anything that could be construed as sexual, obscene, or just plain inappropriate. Go figure.

          • Karolyn

            Rick – Her using a vibrator was a personal issue and had nothing to do with how she felt about anything else.

          • Rick

            Thank you Karolyn, because of you I’ve decided to quit cold turkey.

      • Bill Lee

        Our founding Fathers did not endorse legalizing prostitution or drugs like R. Paul does. RP lies, He said he was 100% in line with the Bible. Here’s the ABC ref: http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=3970423&page=1
        The Bible has clear guidelines for a reason. I have three sons. I want them to grow up in a country where they can learn right from wrong. I don’t need Lot’s wife for a president.
        Cain on the other hand is a no nonsense leader who has a proven track record outside of Washington which counts for a lot more in my book than all the professional politicians vying for office and in office now.
        This decades old crap being dredged-up matter nothing. It’s sole purpose is meant to derail and get our focus off of the goal of unseating Obama and claiming all three Houses in one year from now. If we respond to it we loose.

        • DaveH

          Jesus hung out with a prostitute — Mary Magdalene. What is with you that you feel the need to involve yourself in victim-less crimes? Neither the prostitute nor the john is doing anything involuntarily.
          And our founders didn’t say anything about drugs one way or the other because they believed in Freedom. Get it? Absence from Government meddling when somebody does nothing to harm another person.
          It also seems strange to me that somebody who professes to be moral would condone military involvement in other countries who in no way have attacked the United States. Herman Cain is big into “National Security”. As if we don’t have enough, he wants more of it. Military involvement necessarily involves picking sides and killing people who have not attacked our country. Why is it wrong for people to murder people in a civilized society, but not wrong to kill them simply because some Government agency calls it War or a Military Action?
          Another Cain thing is that he wants to conduct more rigorous anti-drug actions. What? We don’t have enough already? Many of the so-called religious people have no problem with paramilitary drug raids which often terrorize and even kill innocent victims, and for what? To save people from themselves? Or to prevent the possibility of them harming somebody else? So it’s okay to kill people because they Might cause harm to somebody else?
          I think it’s time for all good religious people to actually practice their religions.
          It’s time to get this country back to Freedom whether the control-freaks like it or not.

          • DaveH

            It’s seems strange to me that I live by a more rigorous moral code than any religious people I’ve ever known, and I’m an Atheist. Go figure.

          • Thor

            Although there is no Biblical proof Magdalene was a prostitute, your point is well-taken.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdalene

          • Thor

            I would also like to note, DaveH, how well you do using only one side of your brain. Think how well you could think once you have experienced the warm sensation of a bi-cameral religious experience that forms the bonding between both sides of the brain…enabling the clear thinker like you to tap into divine revelation.

          • DaveH

            Thor,
            I was indoctrinated for 10 years in Catholic School. Logically, I could no longer accept the premises after I reached 18 years old, but still the fear that had been instilled in me by the deep propaganda lingered for years. Propaganda is a powerful thing. Who doesn’t want to believe that there is life after death? The alternative is pretty damn scary. And who doesn’t want to believe that there’s a supernatural being watching over us and protecting us from evil?
            In fact it is a very similar thing to that which makes Liberalism easy to swallow. Who wouldn’t like Free money, an easy living, and a pain-free life?
            But it just isn’t reality.

          • Patty

            Dave H – I live in MN. You wouldn’t believe how many of my friends are recovering Catholics! The land of 10,000 rehab centers too.

        • Caroline

          Ron Paul isn’t for “legalizing” anything. He’s for getting the federal government out of the picture and letting the states make their own decisions on drugs. And the only reason prostitution is illegal is because the government can’t tax it! Two people having consentual sex isn’t illegal but if one person takes money for it it’s illegal? What about corporate America? Sleeping your way to the top? Getting a raise or a higher position in the company because you sleep with the boss? President Clinton and Monica Lewinski? This isn’t illegal! It’s no one’s business what someone else does in private — as long as it is not done in public and is not harming anyone else. The government needs to realize that and get out of people’s personal affairs.

          As far as drugs, cigarettes and alcohol are not illegal and they are drugs! It’s also ok for the medical association to fill you full of morphine, vicodin, etc. in the name of “pain killers” but you can’t smoke pot. Now I do not take drugs of any kind — I also don’t smoke cigarettes, so I’m not arguing this for my own sake. The government finally realized that the “war on alcohol” called prohibition did not solve the problem and only made the illegal distribution of alcohol even more profitable (without the benefit of a tax on profits). When will they learn that the war on drugs is no different?

          • DaveH

            Well said, Caroline.

          • Thor

            Agreed…

        • ChristyK

          Ron Paul doesn’t want to legalize prostitution or drugs, but he does want to obey the constitution. According to the constitution the federal government doesn’t have the authority to regulate those things (or 90% of the things it does). The constitution is very clear that there are a small number of enumerated powers given to congress. All others are reserved to the states or to the people. Ron Paul believes that the states can regulate drugs and prostitution, but the constitution does not give the legal authority to Congress to do so. Do you want a president that will do whatever he feels is right or do you want a president that will always obey the law? Look at Obama to see what happens when a president does whatever he wants. If regulation is really important, the states can regulate things.

          On the subject of illegal drugs. I hate drugs. I don’t even take most legal drugs. I’d rather be in pain than take a pain killer that will space me out, but the war on illegal drugs have caused more problems than it has solved. If you look at the history of prohibition, people saw individuals misusing alcohol, so they banned it (they amended the constitution because they did not have the constitutional authority to do so). All of the people that misused alcohol found a way to obtain it. Terrible people took up the business because they could make tons of money on illegal alcohol. Many people were killed by those involved in the profitable alcohol trade. Crime got so bad that we quickly repealed the ban. Does this sound familiar?

      • Matt

        Marilyn,
        You adhere to the great American way, convicted in the press without a hearing, by anonymous accusers, without undefined charges. Sounds like you are profoundly bias towards Rep Paul. Let’s at least wait for all the facts, not just what the drive-by media puts out!

        • DaveH

          And it sounds like you are profoundly biased against Ron Paul, who the “drive-by” media tries their best to suppress. Why? What are they afraid of? Could it be that the media moguls are deathly afraid that they and their corporate cronies might have to compete on a level playing-field in the Free Market economy that Ron Paul advocates instead of keeping their positions of power by greasing the right political palms? Of course they are.

          • Patty

            Dave H – I found this fishing, thought you might enjoy it. From Ron Paul’s 2008 run. You may have seen it before. I enjoyed it, hope you do to. http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=mdomRyWT_BI

          • DaveH

            Catchy tune, Patty. It reminded me of this guy:
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG5e1oaen-M

          • Patty

            Dave H – good one. Did you know that Robert Vaughn graduated from North High School, Mpls, MN?

          • eddie47d

            Everyone knows it is happening but not which side is coming for you. That’s about as foggy as a river bottom in who it will be.

          • eddie47d

            Excellent video Patty on the money bomb vs the Freedom bomb. “When will we ever learn” from…. Where Have All the Flowers Gone.

        • Caroline

          Matt, is being “profoundly biased toward Paul” worse than being biased toward Cain or Romney or any other candidate? Are we “biased” because we BELIEVE that the candidate Ron Paul is the BEST candidate available? Are we biased because everything he has said for the past 30+ years has come true? Are we biased because he is RIGHT about the situation we face in this country? Are we biased because the media would like to ignore the issues as well as Ron Paul entirely? NO, we believe rightly that Ron Paul is what he says he is. There is nothing against him — in all the times he has run for president, the only bad thing anyone can say about him is his age — well, after his experience I see his age as a plus!!! As far as his stand on international defense, he and many others believe that our money would be better spent on defending this country’s borders. The government can molest all the people they want at airport terminals but that will not keep out terrorists that cross our Mexican border daily. Also, why do we not defend our Mexican border but have so much regulation to cross into or back from Canada? Do we have a problem with Canadians crossing into this country and taking our jobs? Selling our kids drugs? Going on welfare? Getting free education? Displaying the USA flag upside-down and burning it, then raising their own flag on US soil? This country needs to “mind it’s own business” literally — both defensively and economically and Ron Paul is the only candidate who is willing to take on the task.

      • Julius Lohr

        Sorry Marilyn, but you’re an idiot! Why are Ron Paul devotees completely blind to this man’s borderline senility?

        • DaveH

          And why are you completely blind to Ron Paul’s principled stands? No other candidate comes close to the Principles which Ron Paul exhibits. Certainly not Herman Cain.
          Herman Cain is an establishment Republican, who like all establishment Republicans will keep on Growing our Leviathan Government until Freedom is just a long-dead rumor.

          • FreedomFighter

            DaveH Im sorry to see in an above post you have lost your faith.

            22 years ago I was an athiest, did whatever I wanted, had zero belief, nill, none. I thought believers primative fools.

            Then in a routine operation, I died for several minutes, I have no words to justly describe the horror of what happened and what I have seen.

            My life is now the opposite, firm belief, care for others, I know that I never want to goto that dark pit again.

            Laus Deo
            Semper Fi

          • DaveH

            I was almost OD’d on Sodium Pentathol once. I didn’t have a single thought in my head until 6 hours later when an orderly was jerking me around by assuming the identity of an old friend named Charlie. I guess I was talking in my sleep and he thought it was a good way to bring me out. I didn’t.

      • Old Henry

        Let’s hope none of them are named Lilly, Flowers, or Lewinski…

        • Patty

          :)

      • JTB

        you said it Marilyn he has no experience in politics so then he owes no one get it Marilyn no one! Whether he did what he’s accused of 20 years ago is history! God Clinton did the act right in the white house and got a slap on the hand now if he were a republican the libs would of had him thrown out. I’m not saying what Cain did was not serious but he didn’t even have sex he said somethings that were not appropriate. Back then those things met nothing! No candidate will be perfect so deal with it and get over yourself!

      • Matt Newell

        To me that shows people who are looking for a payout. Three women stepped forward (but keep their names out of sight) and make accusations (don’t say what exactly what happened). Sounds like a trumped up charge to me.

    • Vic Bailey

      If the TRUTH was known, Cain probably leaked the news himself to get his prediction to come true. He has worked with the Federal Reserve and that is the way they do business, fake the blame on everybody else but yourself! The Federal Reserve is the most crooked bunch of people on the face of the earth! Besides, a vote for Cain is a vote for the New World Order and the UN Agenda 21, he is judt another Nation Builder and a world policeman, which we can’t afford. He would be better off to go back to the Pizza job! Semper Fi.

      • r.p.

        Very astute… The same thought crossed my mind. I believe Cain is playing us like a well worn fiddle. Which is exactly what the LSM & TPTB want. Cain couldn’t predict the financial collapse or the housing bubble, but was dead on with this harrassment debacle….VERY SUSPICIOUS!!! Ironically this was brought out at exactly the same time the election commitee began investigations into campaign fraud by the Cain Campaign camp. Hmmmmmm!

    • Old Henry

      I truly do not understand all the hubbub about Mr. Cain. After the child-molesting, rapist, dick-for-brains in the 90s I would think the Herminator’s past would be an absolute resume enhancer.

      I think Debbie that the American public is seeing thru this disgusting racism. The Cain campaign’s fund-raising has been more successful since the racist smear tactics began.

      Back when Justice Thomas was being smeared by the racist Democraps we did not have the alternative media that exists today. Now we can get at the truth. We no longer need the LSM.

      • pacman

        Forget the race thing….it’s a diversion used by Cain himself and Fox News. It’s all a diversion!! Let’s get to simple truths. Cain fumbled big time and he had plenty of time to prepare. So why did he fumble….because he comes from an executive level position where what he says rules….and he tries to carry that into the outside world….it’s then called arrogance and most are catching on. Aside from that….he should come out and publicly strongly urge the restaurant association to release the confidentiality agreements and the specifics of the allegations, and if he’s innocent then let the people decide. He hasn’t been vetted by anyone, so it’s time to let the people decide based on the facts of the case rather the everyone trying to play the race card in his defense which is really lame!!

      • Caroline

        Why is it everytime we talk against either Obama or Cain it’s a race thing? If you vote for Cain, it’s a race thing. If you vote against Cain, it’s a race thing. We’re talking about ISSUES here people! Race has nothing to do with it. I don’t care about race. I don’t care whether or not Cain molested anyone or “made them feel uncomfortable.” What I care about are the issues. The only solution Cain has come up with is “9-9-9.” This will not solve our problems. And he doesn’t believe the Fed has any problems? He believes as he told Ron Paul, just “ask them” about what they do and they’ll answer. Like that is going to happen! Just look at how Bernanke “answers” questions brought up by Congress. He believes he doesn’t have to answer anything or account for anything. After all, the Fed is not a government-run organization. It’s a private corporation that prints money, then “loans” it to the government for a fee! What a scam! Maybe the “Occupy” groups should occupy the Fed instead of Wall Street and all the other towns they currently protest in. After all, the Fed is nothing but another big corporation making huge profits!!!!

    • moebears

      Regardless of whether on not Cain did this, I don’t care. He is a Fed insider, and status quo. Nothing will change if he becomes pres.

    • Void1972

      debbie gore or al gore
      Its all the same to me! Take the American public off the true issues and we are where we belong! You dumb morons!

    • Patrick Timmel

      Cain isn’t the victim of a high tech lynching like Clarence Thomas. Rather he is a womanizing bum who created victims by his untoward advances. Someone doesn’t buy off an accuser of these actions unless they are true. Fortunately for Cain, though, he wasn’t left out in the cold. He did manage to wrangle a threesome with the Koch brothers for whom he is their bought and paid for whore. His 9-9-9 plan (translation “mine, mine, mine”) would be a disaster for working class Americans and another unwarranted gift for the immoral 1%.

    • Lil

      RE: in my view all the rest are your typical ‘politicians’.

      Wow, what a statement. Are you completely blind about Dr. Ron Paul ?
      You are doing now exactly what the media is doing for such so long.
      And by the way, how do you know that Mr. Cain is so innocent after all?
      Didn’t we pay enough for Mr. Clinton’s “I did not not have sex with that woman” investigations and embarrassment? Do we need more at this time when the country is in such a crisis?

      9-9-9 is a stupid idea which can’t make someone president, just like that.

      Mr. Ron Paul is an scientist, a politician, an historian and studies real economics. His morality is impeccable and his views were reflected for years and years in his votes in congress.

      To make him part of “all the rest are typical politicians” shows your complete ignorance.

      Get educated please. We really need Dr. Ron Paul for president, or this country goes down the drain.

    • Mildred Jacobs

      I am an 86 year old thorough bred 4th generation white Alabamaian. Herman Cain is a thoroughbred American; he is thoroughbred Black. He came up in poverty in segretated GA. He makes sense. He recognizes that he has been blessed to live in the USA where he has THIS chance. I would vote for him. I am concerned about his connection with the Fed.

    • ron

      Chip; believe me neither Herman Cain nor Clarence Thomas were victims of high or low-tech lynching. Emitt Till was a victim of a lynching. Thousands of black men were the victims of that barbaric act. The most recent act was the Texas case some years ago when the black man was dragged behind a pick up truck. It is important you and others know this because it is apparent Clarence Thomas did not know it then and Herman Cain does not know it now. That both of them Thomas years ago and Cain now are being accused of being horny old men who were willing to be unfaithful to their wives yet willing to lie about it. Or as Newt would say they are being vetted. For you Chip Wood to write about liberals playing the race card well, so far the only one playing the race card is Cain himself. He who said racism cannot hold a person back now days. Clarence Thomas accuser was black so how the hell could he even cough that statement up was disturbing to me. Hell if he (C. Thomas) had been in the loop he would have known that no one was going to bother him (least not conservatives) for a little black on black crime.

      Herman Cain has blamed everyone from Rick Perry to Don Vito Corleone. And yes he has played the race card himself as well as Fox the idiots they call news people. So two white women say he is a sexual predator and it’s racism? Anita Hill says C. Thomas harassed her sexually and it’s a high tech lynching. Give me a break. Next he will blame Karl Rove who by the way did a bang up job on John MaCain in 2004. You and others can use Herman Cain to cleanse your souls I’ll pass and look upon him for what he shows

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    I think it would be fantastic if there was at least one media source out there that wouldn’t be biased. A source that treats all equally, regardless of skin color or political association. That only relay facts, not hearsay. As much as I love this website, I know it is conservative, which is my preference, but wouldn’t it be great to find that website that was facts only?

    • pilot

      Try FOX, — I know they are not perfect, (they are human you know), but at least 75% of the time they get the facts right, (even if slightly skewed), and they do show “Liberal debaters” on air LIVE! Though not perfect,- they probably present the truth about 50% more than the other “sycophant stations”! There were a few radio stations that were presenting the “raw” truth, but they have been forcibly removed,—wonder who would do that?? One was “rebel radio”, who talked freedom, constitution, bill of rights, self defense, and Christianity —(and other stuff nobody wants to hear)! And of course the “biggie” was discussed, which was surviving possible uprisings and collpase of a wonderful government!! So obviously it had to go!

      • DaveH

        See here for hard-hitting truth:
        http://mises.org/

        • DaveH

          And here for no-punches pulled:
          http://www.infowars.com/

          • moebears

            DaveH has it right. Stay away from any of the MSM, including Fox, except for a few of their shows, such as Napolitano or maybe Stossel.

  • M.Alice Woolard

    LOVE THE WRITe UP!!!! Herman Cain is just what this country needs,I a w hite and don’t see A man of color, just A very wise man, I have A prayer that this smear lynching ends soon, so more people will know and support HERMAN CAIN

    • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

      Yeah! Just what this country needs… another guy who doesn’t understand economics, who failed to see the collapse one week before it happened, spoke out against it, and thought there was no need to audit the Federal Reserve where this man used to work. Then we get an audit (thanks to Ron Paul) and find out about over 16 trillion (yes trillion) in secret unreported bailouts. Much of which went to foreign countries.

      Yes, Herman Cain is just what this country needs… someone to drive it further into the ground!

      • moebears

        You got it right! Cain is, as Ron Paul said, “an insider”.

  • Fighting Democrat

    His time it’s your friendly loser GOP presidential nominee Governor Rick Perry, not the Democrats. Of course, I can hear the voices of dissent, because Perry is losing. Serves you right.

  • Christy

    Anyone who is having doubts about Mr. Cain should listen to the interview Sean Hannity did with Mr. Cain yesterday. Mr. Cain is telling the truth. He is a good man and even FOX NEWS is not getting the truth out there but instead going along with the mainstream media and reporting inuendo rather than the cold hard facts. You can listen to the interview if you go to hannity.com.

    • Suzanne

      Fox is run by a man who is linked in to the elites in the Republican Party, all of whom are determined that a moderate get the nomination for POTUS. Roger Ailes isn’t going to do or to allow anything to advance a true conservative. In their own way the Republican elites are as bad as the Democrats in their determination to self-destruct. They know that only about 25% of registered Republicans want Romney but they will support him anyway. They are setting themselves up to lose 75% of their voters either to a third party or to those who will simply stay home rather than vote for another moderate. What fools they are!

      • Bruce D.

        Really it is up to the individual host who he likes. O’reilly is a moderate so he would support a moderate. Hannity is more of a conservative so he would lean more toward a conservative canidate. They have said many times that management does not tell them what to say.

        • DaveH

          Herman Cain and his 999 plan are both Trojan Horses. Look behind the curtain people. Wake up. We don’t have much time left to turn this country back to Freedom.

          • http://deleted Claire

            DaveH–Thank you! I agree.

      • Patty

        This is why it is so important for all to show up to the primaries to vote. Make sure you do, or your pick will be Romney. Which is not a pick at all for most of us.

  • nanc

    If This woman is not going to speak up about this then why didn’t SHE just KEEP her Mouth Shut and the same for each one of the women who claim they were harrassed by Mr. Cain it couldn’t have been that bad if they didnt report it when it happened. At least it would have been on record back then.

    • Dave

      They did report it. Two got money to stay quiet, which they did. When Cain said it never happened he didn’t keep quiet, violated the rules of the agreements. He messed up not the women. They received $35,000 and $45,000 and moved on with their lives. Cain didn’t have to do anything, unscathed at the time. Not now, though.

      • Morduin00

        I find it interesting that you believe Cain violated the agreement first. If I remember the sequence of events, he was responding to a reporter’s questions about the alleged sexual harassment. Therefore the reporter brought it up first. Then there is “where did the reporter get the story?” issue. Someone would have had to have been the source and more than likely it wasn’t Cain. If it was from one of the women, mere mention of the fact that there was a harassment case would have violated their agreement. If it was from a member of the Restaurant Association, then the Association broke the agreement. Not Cain.

        • JeffH

          heard this on the radio but not confirmed…all the while the “attorney” for the “victim” is pandering the story to every media outlet that will listen. Supposedly the “victim” has told the “attorney” to cease and desist…the attorney says she wants to make a statement?

          …is it real or is it Memorex…

          • Patty

            Now THAT I do believe. Beware of the attorney who only wants to put his hands in your pockets to keep them warm.

  • http://robertredfern.com Robert Redfern

    This is a puzzle. Since Pizzas were the only weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq and since pizzas kill more Americans every year than in the whole war to date then the only answer is Ron. I rest my case.

    • DaveH

      lol.

  • shermansred

    remember all the democrats did when Sara Palin ran for v.p.Well,it starts again and im sure the rumor started from the dem.In my life ever since Obama ran for office,has politicking gotten so dirty and ruthless.and if it is correct where this leak started from which,Emanuel leaked to the Perry camp it would figure.These filthy campaingn leaders for democrats shought besued for slander

    • Marilyn

      It’s not a rumor if Cain has admitted to the payouts to these women. Why didn’t he tell the truth from the beginning? We don’t need another liar in the white house.

      • Morduin00

        I don’t know if he is outright lying or just recalling past history as it comes back to him after he thinks about it more and more.

        Regardless, he is not handling this well. As I said many times with Clinton, and I will say it here. If he comes out with a coherent, plausible message on this matter, it will end quicker than it began.

        I think we would all appreciate honesty about past actions. If he was fuzzy on the facts, he should have just deferred the questions and had a press conference when he got his thoughts in order. Speaking off the cuff didn’t help him here.

    • Dave

      Sarah Palin opened her mouth proving her lack of reasonable knowledge on most any topic. Figurehead is all she is. Thank God she no longer is Governor in Alaska.
      A Dem. didn’t pass this info along, Cain says it’s an ex campaign staffer for him.
      Passed along by the other candidates is now who Cain says it is coming from. This isn’t out of the norm for the Republicans or anyone one in politics.
      THis “dirty” politics has been around since the dawn of politics. You only hear more about it because of modern media, not Liberal media, media in general. They need to fill 24hours a day with somethingso they repeat it every 30 minutes at minimum. I get more stuff on my phone than I ever got from reading a paper in the past.

      • DaveH

        No man, or woman, has enough knowledge to micromanage our economy or our lives. That’s why we keep getting liars in office. They have to lie to convince people that they can accomplish the unaccomplishable.
        It’s high time we start unraveling the Beast which devours 40% of our economy and keeps us in chains. Big Government is the Problem, Not the Solution.

      • Don

        Dave, modern media, as you call it, is liberal media, idiot, prove me wrong !!!!

      • eddie47d

        I would think most news sources have Conservatives in charge of the companies and making lots of money doing it. There are plenty of Robert Murdoch’s out there who are only interested in the money not what is presented on the shows.

        • JeffH

          eddie says, “I would think most news sources have Conservatives in charge of the companies and making lots of money doing it.”

          Excuse me while I laugh. Are you serious?

          Hmmm, liberal bias exists within a wide variety of media channels including network news shows of CBS, ABC, and NBC, cable channels CNN and MSNBC, as well as major newspapers, news-wires, and radio outlets, especially CBS News, Newsweek, and the New York Times.

          The arguments intensified when it was revealed that the Democratic Party received a total donation of $1,020,816, given by 1,160 employees of the three major broadcast television networks (NBC, CBS, ABC), while the Republican Party received only $142,863 via 193 donations. Both of these figures represent donations made in 2008.

        • JeffH

          Networks Hit Cain Story 50 Times in Less Than Four Days; Ignored Clinton Scandals

          Over a period of just three and a half days, NBC, CBS and ABC have developed an insatiable hunger for the Herman Cain sexual harassment story, devoting an incredible 50 stories to the allegations since Monday morning. In contrast, over a similar period these networks mostly ignored far more substantial and serious scandals relating to Bill Clinton.

          This pattern continued on Wednesday night and into Thursday as the evening newscasts and morning shows highlighted the story 19 times. On Good Morning America, Brian Ross offered innuendo and slung gossip, recounting, “But behind the scenes, several of the campaigns are still urging reporters to continue to dig, George, saying, there’s more to be found in the private life of Herman Cain.”
          http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2011/20111103124000.aspx

        • eddie47d

          I didn’t stutter Jeff so laugh away. The OWNERS of news outlets are Conservative and wealthy. They don’t care what gets printed or put on the airwaves as long as they get their payout. Their employees probably do give to whoever they please and they may indeed support Democrats but I wasn’t referring to them.

          • JeffH

            Whatever you say eddie, whatever you say! I know we can take you at your word because you’ve always been up front and honest.

            Now I suppose YOU will point out who all of the “conservative” owners of the news sites are because you know it as fact, right?…or is it that YOU know that “corporations” own these news sources and YOU know how evil these corporations are and YOU know that only conservatives own these corporations?

            Grace all of us with your all knowing sources eddie, just this once…please? Of course you know and I know that you don’t have any source to cite and that this is only your opinion and you’ve made it very clear that you do believe opinion to be fact.

          • JeffH

            eddie, while I’m on a roll here, I’d like to add another kink to your anti-conservative, anti-corporate, pro-liberal, pro-Democratic armour.

            Human Events did an analysis and examined only those Fortune 100 companies that operated nonprofit charitable foundations that made grants to groups we identified as on either the political right or left. That reduced the number to 53 corporate foundations. They examined the most recent tax- return filings for these foundations (IRS Form 990) and compiled the dollar values for grants and matching gifts to left-wing groups and right-wing groups.

            The results are the exact opposite of the common perception. The Fortune 100 foundations gave more money to the political left. In fact, the grant-making was lopsided: The political left received nearly $59 million, while the political right received only about $4 million, a ratio of 14.5($58,928,393) to 1($4,049,405).

            If the Fortune 100 represents corporate America, then the belief that corporate America is more generous to public interest and advocacy groups on the right is clearly wrong. Unfortunately, that misperception is embedded in American consciousness. How often are groups on the left derided as “corporate lackeys”?(hint-almost never)
            http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16588

  • Dr Jonnathon Grimmett

    I support alot of Republicans at home here in GA. Sadly at this point I will not be voting for any Presidential Candidates Republican or Democrat. Democrats won’t get my vote because they just don’t get it. Republicans lost my confidence with their Cut the budget double talk with undertones of ” protect my self serving interests ” we need term limits on all elected Officials. We need New Fresh Clear minded individuals. As for who should be President Hey pull Joe Citizen off his tractor and put him in office. Rich the Wealthy aren’t in touch with the working man or woman they don’t have to face the realization of possibly losing their homes to forclosure whilst barely making ends meet. You don’t see wealthy politicians comming down from the Hill and getting in the trenches with Struggling Americans trying to find employment while the cost of gas is so high and the cost of feeding a family is now reaching a state of ridiculous. These same wealthy politicians and political wanna be’s like Cain are the same employers who are down sizing. cutting jobs, freezing hiring, laying of workers, or forcing them into early retirement. These same big spenders don’t care about the working class only the Corperate dollar Share prices and excessive living and spending.

    • winolet

      I agree with limiting terms for Representatives and Senators. In for 2 years – then out with them.

      • Dave

        While the idea seems good, 2 years is not the answer. It takes experience from school age timeframe on to become a knowledgable political type. Rules of order took up a lot of my time when I was a student Senator.
        The inexperience with all the basic rules needed to get legislation in place would overwhelm most people and limiting terms would bring disorder to the proceedings.
        Better to get transparency of all proceedings, it’s our government for crying out loud.
        Track all lobbying activity and donations of large sums. Unfortunately, all attempts to change that has been trumped by the parties involved.

    • pilot

      Don’t get your hopes up about “joe citizen” getting off his tractor, and going to D.C.! I was one of those 50 years ago!! And I would rather stay on that tractor, where I am fully visible to GOD, and able to see the sun shine. I am ill equipped to enter to a “Den of Theives”, (with no protection wahtsoever)! It woud take at least 3 elections in which incumbent “politicians” would be totally voted out, – no matter party affiliation!! — After that a Max of 2 terms, then out of politics! Max wage of possibly $65,000 annually, Not retierment (other than the S.S. they are paying – just like the rest of us)! “Company car provided, – possibly one of regular cars fom the “motor pool”, – no private trips that they don’t pay out of their own pockets, – only government planes provided for office holder, and his essential staff! No lobbyists, no “under the table payola”…… Again no retierment!! Now a “career politician” can hold each office possibly two years, but does not stay in any one place longer than that! …… As I said I would not want to be in current system as a “public official”! The chance of remaining honest and on course, is about the same as a bull fighter in the ring with 280 raging bulls,- with no cape, no piccadllos, no sword, and no shotgun! You only get gored, trampled or destroyed by “unexplainable means”!.. Or you join the Hurd! ..It is a whole lot safer up there on that tractor! You might even carry a firearm in the fields, (for rodents, and varmints of course)!

      Remember the break down of word “Politics”, is the greek word “poly”,-(meaning many) and “tics”- “websters dictionary”,-are (little blood sucking leeches)! And they definately are!

    • Caroline

      Dr. Jonnathon, two words: Ron Paul!!!

  • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

    It’s one thing to have old allegations brought up against you… It’s another to lie to the American people about them. Herman Cain lied… again. He is finished. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBWU2p66Jvs

    • John R.

      And you’re the same [insult removed] that gave Clinton a pass for his indiscretions and blatant lies, not as a candidate, but, the President of the United States. Your mindset proves the hypocrisy of the Liberals. I love the double-standards..

      • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

        What are you talking about? I didn’t give Clinton a pass for anything. I am not even a Democrat. Don’t blindly attack anyone who points out legitimate flaws with a candidate and assume the are a Democrat. This is not about right and left, this is about right and wrong. If the guy did these things, and lies about it, he is no better than Clinton. Attacking the Democrats (or even a conservative) who points this out is not making your candidate look any better. Wrong is wrong. Evil is evil. I stand by the only principled candidate. I stand by the only real conservative candidate.

        • DaveH

          Ron Paul 2012.

      • Dave

        Jason is no moron. Your demeanor is suspect, though.

      • Buddy

        John R:

        [insult removed]

        Best Regards

        • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

          That is not very nice.

          • DaveH

            ?

          • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

            Not nice, but true… lol

  • TOCB

    What you are saying Chip, is simply untrue. The truth is many people who worked with Cain in the NRA have said Cain’s behaviour made them uncomfortable. If this is the best Republicans can do, I am sure Democrats are willing to do everything they can to help you nominate Herman Cain as your standard barer. Personally, I think he would be a great nominee for the Republican Party.

    • Patty

      That is not true. He has worked with hundreds, thousands of people and many women have come forward to say these are unfounded. Just because you accuse someone of something, and it is not worth thier time, and they take money to go away, does not make you guilty of anything but being prudent.

      • eddie47d

        Were those “many women” in the same room as the accusers were and can provide testimony against those accusers. If not then that may be irrelevant to the sexual harassment charges.

        • Patty

          Eddie 47 – I stand by what I said. There was no sexual harassment. Just some woman and the % will go up according to the amount of contact with individuals. What is “they felt uncomfortable” with what he said? He call them honey? Sugar? Very popular words in the south. I think they took it out of whatever context it was presented in and saw a chance to make a quick buck. Period. I know a lot better ways to get to a jerk guy, and it is through his wife. Behind every strong man is a stronger woman.

  • Capitalist at Birth

    It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. I think, that if the alleged women do come forward, their lives and stories should be investigated thoroughly, including financial and political affiliations, before any deciding either way as to their veracity. I am unimpressed with Cains ability to be President, or Vice President. I sill contend that Newt is the best candidate for President with Palin, Rubio, West, or Bachmann as the Vice Presidential candidate. I would and Paul and Santorum as Cabinet Secretaries as well.

  • Alan Spik

    I hope that comparing Cain to McCarthy is unfair. The communist witch hunt was a farce and unamerican. Although I would never vote communist I served so that every American could voice whatever stupid opinion they held. An attempt by any person or party to restrain speech is an attack on the constitution.

    • Suzanne

      Herman Cain keep up the good work. I am so tired of the left acting like immature people. I am so tired of all this political correctness. Debate the important things that are necessary to get the US back as a christian nation.

      • m

        All you white women been keep falling this black man.

        • Patty

          WTF – public schooling, right?

      • Anthony

        Yes I can not wait to start paying 20% sales tax here in Tennessee. Plus 3000 more a year in income tax! MAN WANT THIS BE GREAT!!!!

        • Patty

          You pay 11% sales tax in TN? When I checked it said 7%, which I thought was high for TN. But it is what it is. The good thing about it is that you wouldn’t have to pay on used items. Hello Craigs List!

          • Patty

            Plus, your federal income tax will drop to 9%. Less than what you are paying now overall, I am guessing.

    • eddie47d

      McCarthy was a fear monger and “a loony” for the right so that was a cheap shot from the author(CW). Cain is being vetted for honesty and as yet doesn’t pass the smell test. Was there a “smear test” against Edwards or was it only Americans exposing the truth.Edwards deserved the smears and if Cain is covering something up (flip flopping) then he will deserve it too. If Cain can prove those women to be false then his popularity will soar. If not then it will be continually used against him.

  • Kookie

    I don’t believe Cain is the right man for the White House and to put our country in his hands. Yes, he is a successful man, but not in the experience of politics for running the country. This could be another Obnama who doesn’t know what he is doing. And also lying about his past before admitting it after being caught.

    • AnnaS

      You are absolutely wrong about Obama. Obama knows very well what he is doing: destroying Christians, because they represent personal responsibility; destroying small businesses owners, because they will never accept socialism; increasing unemployment, because more people will depend on government’s leftovers; increasing government employment, because government clerks prefer socialism; destroying Americans as you knew it, because, no matter where he was born, he grew up in the family where true American values were always hated.
      Please don’t compare Cain with Obama just because they are both black.

      • eddie47d

        Kookie didn’t mention their blackness only their integrity.

        • Patty

          Exactly the point. It is the only thing they have in common. Only Cain is an American Black and Nobama is a Kenyan Black.

        • http://deleted Claire

          Black? Green? Purple? I could care less. All I know is that I would never vote for Cain. Ron Paul? Yes.

          • Patty

            I only wish. Every time I try to talk him up, people think he is crazy. I know it is wrong. We have until the primaries to change peoples minds. Vote your primary.

    • Morduin00

      Politics=backstabbing

      You do realize that there is always politics going on in every organization. Even more so at the top of every organization. Even the military is fraught with politics. So Mr. Cain does know politics.

      However, unlike other politicians, maybe he refuses to play most of the political games and prefers straightforward interaction.

      You can see during the debates that Mr. Cain does know how to play the political game. How and when he chooses to use that tool is what makes him the man that he is.

  • Whatever

    Mr. Cain lynched himself.

    • http://deleted Claire

      They all do. Eventually. Truth comes out sooner or later.

  • s c

    Frankly, politics has a way of bringing out our nation’s concentrated stupidity. Some of you are purely “spooky.” Some mean well, but you don’t know how to express yourself.
    If I was in trouble over a traffic citation, I’d gladly pay the fine and get my posterior out of the
    building. Our nation is a country in which the predators are in control of the hen house, the hens are scheming with the predators, a new herd of predators is entering the back of the hen house to torch the place and the rest just don’t get it.
    We’re in deep stuff. Our “educated” semi-elite think they’re controlling the predators, and the puppet masters still telling us what we can and can’t THINK.
    If we don’t have an engineered civil war on our hands before I die, it will be a fluke. America, you might as well go into defense mode, because you can’t handle offense. This game is rigged, and you can’t see it. I’m so glad I’m an adult, because America’s children will suffer and pay the price for our faults.

    • Patty

      You don’t have any kids that you worry about thier future?

  • m

    Chip would is an idiot. Don’t blame the messanger.
    Face the reality.

    • libertytrain

      I can’t believe you didn’t recheck your spelling/context before posting this and making yourself look like one.

      • Patty

        No kidding.

      • JeffH

        Hell libertytrain :) it can’t even spell it’s name :) Shame on you! :)

        OK, so I’m a hypocrit! …and I don’t like grammar and spelling cops!

  • Pastori Balele

    I cushioned Cain never to trust Republicans and TEA Partiers – he refused to listen to me. They have now turned against him. In fact if you’re white woman, Black, racial minority, Catholic, government employee or worker in private sector, please avoid patronizing with Republicans. They want your money and thoughts – nothing in return. That’s what happened in Wisconsin. TEA Partiers “put syrup” on their mouths and voted Republican. See what happened. Republicans turned against the voters. Now they are crying: “we did not know Republicans were that bad”. But I had told them before the election what republicans think of others – nothing. We have chance to vote them out in November 2012. Cain also should think about changing parties to be democrat. Otherwise his political and personal life is gone.

    • pilot

      I happen to know Wisconsin a little! I can only say what kind of glasses are you wearing,– Ray Charles’s favorites?? First of all how are you going to pay for all that “free stuff”, very high retirement pensions and other “government gifts” asscociated??– The same way current admistration is, — by spending a few bilion, (or trillion) more from an “empty bank” account?? Of course I guess they could raise taxes on exorbanent retirement funds, and Raise taxes on homes over -say $300,000!! I know my place with almost 5 acres, and a 100 year old house that has been in family since the 30s – is only worth about $85,000,- but it is taxed at $98,000, and still costs me around $1,800 in property tax! That is because nearest town over 10K popupltion is 11 miles away, – over 25,000 over 30 miles away,- and over 50,000,- 50 miles away! So we get by cheap by living on the fringe of civilization! That will all have to be taxed to the “ears” to pull what you wish off! And then you will “get yours”, and we will “lose ours”,– wonder why some object! With the money we made farming, we couldn’t afford a union to protect us! Oh well it will all wash out in the depression that is coming anyway! Because we can’t “spend our way out” of that when “the money is long past gone”!

      • Patty

        He plans to pay for it with other people’s money, of course!

    • Patty

      You “cushioned” Cain??? Isn’t that a form of sexual harassment? I would rather vote you off the island of America.

      • http://deleted Claire

        I think he meant “cautioned.”

        • Patty

          Yes Claire, I know. I was pointing out how sensitive these women are at yelling harassment at the drop of a word.

        • Patty

          I had a woman accuse me of being insensitive because I KID YOU NOT, I drove a Ford “Probe”. I told her she needed to get laid.

  • Al Hill

    If you want a candidate you can believe in, back Ron Paul.
    In the debates and all the media nonsense, Dr. Paul has not been accused of anything immoral or fraudulent. That’s because he is morally above reproach and tells the truth. On top of that, he has proposed a specific plan for starting to straighten out this country. It would be painful but if the status quo isn’t changed drastically, you will see another 10 or 20 years of government destruction of this country.
    Compare Ron Paul’s specifics to the rest of the Republican candidates and the incompetent president we have now. They are all bloviation and obfuscation.
    How about a president who backs what he says with what he does.
    That would be RON PAUL!

    • SCConservative

      It’s simple. No one has bothered to attack Ron Paul because he has no chance of winning! Why waste your time on a non-issue? Herman Cain is a true conservative with the wit, character, and charisma to win the election, and it scares the heck out of the media. He may not be perfect (no one is), but I believe he is uniquely qualified to save our country from near-certain destruction. God has never chosen perfect leaders to implement his plans, but he always chooses the right ones. I believe that Mr. Cain is the right leader, and he couldn’t have come at a more important time in our history.

      • bob wire

        We will just have to forever disagree.

        It’s good we live in a nation where we can.

      • DaveH

        It grates on me to no end how the Right-Wingers have co-opted the “Conservative” label. Cain is a Big Government advocate who pretends otherwise, but all we need do is read his issues page to see that he thinks we don’t have enough National Security. We don’t have enough? Holy Cow, can it be any more stifling than it already is?
        http://www.cato.org/raidmap/

        A True Conservative doesn’t advocate Government meddling in our Marketplace, in the World, or in our Personal Choices.

        • DaveH

          So many sheeple. It sure is easy to see how a man like Hitler could come to power.

          • moebears

            Keep up the good words, DaveH!

        • JeffH

          Hear Hear!

  • http://liberyalearts john p.

    HERMAN CAIN HAS MY VOTE.I DON’T WANT A CONGRESSMAN OR A SENATOR BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE THE SAME OLD GOVERNMENT.AND MORE TAXES AND MORE OF THE SAME.I THINK CAIN WOULD BE THE BEST PERSON TO CREATE JOBS WITH OUT GIVING MONEY LIKE THE DEMOCRATS SPEND ALL THIS MONEY AND NO JOBS WHERE DID THE MONEY GO.

    • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

      Your CAPS LOCK is broken.

      Ron Paul is a congressman and he ALWAYS votes against taxes. He always votes in favor of the constitution. He always votes for less government. He always votes against spending. He always votes for liberty and less government.

      Have you been following this election at all? Herman Cain is NOT the liberty, less taxes, less government, less spending candidate. That is Ron Paul.

      • Vic Bailey

        Jason, they don’t read the truth about Ron Paul because they would rather vote for someone that can blame so they can’t blame themselves for being SO STUPID! Just like the last time the voted someone into office that we STILL don’t know anything about him! Other than he is Gay, A Liar, A Kenyan Citizen, A Musulm, A Socialist, A Narcissist and he has the most corrupt Puppet Master Soros in charge! So they don’t want to admit that they SCREWED UP. Semper Fi.

      • DaveH
    • Lost in Paradise

      Cain cannot create jobs! No Way. Please do not be so DULL. The only thing that will get our jobs back is about 50% less government. Elect Ron Paul, and things will improve almost immediatly. Paul will not actually create jobs, but he will create a mfg friendly environment, by elimiating much of the government agencies that are really responsible for job loss.

      Personally I think most Americans are stupid beyond belief, in thinking a president can actually create jobs.

      • DaveH

        Good comment, Lost.

  • rick

    Cain has them running scaired

    • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

      Who? The women?

      • Patty

        :) Funny!

      • Robert

        Jason, is that the way to refer to Democrats/liberals?

    • bob wire

      LOL! finding victory in defeat is a precious skill! You keep working on that!

  • Johnny Galt

    This is a non-issue. The important issue as to why you don’t want to support this man is that he is a world elitist who served on the board of the privately owned Federal Reserve. If you vote for him, you are voting in favor of more of the same. More Taxes, less freedom, more regulation, less liberty, and more WARS. He is no different than Obama. The only choice in the next election is Dr. Ron Paul, a long time Congressman from Texas. He is NOT an establishment politician, but he is, a seldom used term today, a Statesman. Also he is known as “Dr. NO” by D.C. lobbyists, because he does not give in to their bribes, unlike everyone else in Congress. He has never voted for a tax increase, and wants to end the IRS and the income tax. He has a grass root support unheard of today, and truly has your best interest at heart.

    Support Congressman Ron Paul in the primaries coming up in your state. To learn more about him, visit: http://www.RonPaul2012.com

    • ChristyK

      When Cain first began to run for office, I heard several people say he was bad because he worked for the fed. I thought that if he had worked for the fed and wanted to work to abolish it, then he would be perfect for the job. I have now seen where he stands. He calls people who want to audit the Fed, “ignorant”. He then lies and says he didn’t say it, even though it is on tape and millions have seen it. He has promoted Greenspan who thinks that the income tax is useful only for controlling people. If the government needs money, they can just print it (which causes high inflation which is a tax on all americans). If this is what Cain believes, he is actually one of the worst candidates.

      • Patty

        He never called them ignorant. Someone else said he called them ignorant and took what he said out of context. …he did say those who want to audit the Federal Reserve “don’t know enough about it.” That is a far cry from calling someone ignorant. Political posturing on Ron Paul’s side. I still like them both, but I think Ron Paul has polorized himself from the mainstream. He is too truthful, and sorry to say, you won’t win the election that way. I would much rather see him (Paul) behind the scenes where he could accomplish a lot more.

        • pa

          aren’t you saying the same thing? ignorant is not knowing enough about something.

          • Patty

            By definition, yes. But he did not call them ignorant. That is a total misquote. When Paul was saying that, he was putting it as a quote.

          • Patty

            Here is what Cain says about the Federal reserve as late: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2Mqie_h9uU

    • Anthony

      Well said Johnny…..you are one of the few on here that’s able to see past the end of their nose.

  • cawmun cents

    Its called dirty pool.If you cant stand the heat dont run for office.
    Do I think that it is a legitimate tactic?
    Not hardly.
    Is more of this kind of thing going to happen?
    You betcha.
    Wait until the race is set….
    Dog and pony show extant….or should I say elephant and donkey show?
    Sounds like Mumbai and Tijuana.Brought to you by Solyndra and Godfathers Pizza!
    Enjoy!
    -CC.

    • Karolyn

      It was even worse in the late 1900th and early 20th century in this country and even any other country.

  • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

    How could anyone support this man? Why would you put someone who has no understanding of economics in the White House while our economy is failing and our dollar is about to collapse?

    http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/one-week-before-collapse-cain-says-economy-great/

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/9375-tea-party-presidential-election-primer-paul-v-cain-on-economics

    Herman Cain thought the economy was fine one week before the collapse. Even the media was warning Americans, yet Cain stood up against all logic on this.

    Herman Cain thought the Fed was transparent and didn’t need an audit. He used to work for the Fed. Then shortly after an audit reveals that there were over 16 trillion (yes trillion) in secret unreported bailouts. Much of which went to foreign countries.

    Only a fool would know these things and still support Herman Cain at a time like this.

    Jason

    • moebears

      Agree. It boggles the mind.

  • http://none jack

    My entire family was staunchly in the democratic fold..Then came the liberals who highjacked the party and turned it into the elitist,communist leaning thing it is today. Most of my family are now independents (a few misguided souls remain democrats).The things these people say and do are quite anti-american.We can only hope that Mr.Cain has the stuff to stand up to this digraceful bunch of hippocrits.

  • http://danthorntons.com Bluff Rat

    Regardless of what happened, none of the so called “victims” thought it was serious enought to go to court, so I don’t think it merits a lot of attention at this time. Howerver, I support Ron Paul.

  • Tazio2013

    There is absolutely no possibility whatsoever that HC will be POTUS 45 and anybody having average intelligence and thinking rationally knows this to be true. My only question for the white wing wackos, fox noise viewers and fundamentalist evangelical christian extremists; i.e., +/- 25% of Republican voters, is this: Why do you continue to support HC; a FECE completely unqualified to be POTUS who proudly and continually proclaims his ignorance re things that matter? The Democrats must be praying that he wins the nomination.

    Regrettably, it appears that Willard “Mittens” Romney will be the nominee thus assuring the re-election of BHO.

    I look forward to your replies.

    • Bill Lee

      You must be praying since you so confidently argue like a Democrap. Praying to what or whom I have no idea, probably your own likeness in the mirror since the rest of humanity is less deserving or intelligent than you. Yuck who would want to be in your orbit?

    • bob wire

      That’s the way I see end game as well Tazio2013.

      But These people that claim they hate “O” are haters at heart and it will get down to who they hate least and that will be Rommey. So the popular vote will be a close one. That GOP governors are attempting to restrict the voting access to DNC voters is concerning and can tip the balance. Ofcourse they know that and why they are doing it.

      Cain’s never been in consideration regardless what some people are thinking.

      Cain could have preached Sunday school class to 500 women from “Our lady of Victory” catholic college receiving accolades, awards and cash prizes and it wouldn’t matter.

      He was the Little Train that “couldn’t” from the start.

      • Patty

        If you mean they are trying to keep the DNC from letting dead people and Mickey Mouse vote more than once, more power to them. Voter ID!

      • http://deleted Claire

        bob wire–what concerns me is the elderly that no longer drive, etc. But then again, this is all part of the plan.

  • Tazio2013

    Dana Milbank on Herman Cain’s spiraling campaign Herman Cain “has done just about everything wrong since news broke Sunday night that his former employer had paid two women to settle sexual harassment complaints against him,” writes Dana Milbank in The Washington Post. First he denied it, then said he couldn’t remember details, then he remembered details, then he blamed his opponents, racism, and the media. At a campaign stop in Alexandria, Virginia recently, “the scene quickly escalated into violence.” As reporters asked him questions about the story, he attempted to break through the pack, shouting “Excuse me. Excuse me! EXCUSE ME!” Then his bodyguard started shoving reporters and cameramen. Of course, fighting with reporters will probably only endear him to Iowa voters. “But Cain’s loss of control is a reminder of why he’s never going to be president,” Milbank says. Cain’s run was supposed to be “a gambit to increase speaking fees and book sales, perhaps to gain him a gig on cable news.” He used to get the joke, drinking during public appearances, calling female interviewers “sweetheart,” and embracing his own quirks. The campaign was also founded on “the preposterous premise” that someone who once headed a Washington trade group could run as a Washington outsider. “He would claim that running for president ‘didn’t start as a consideration until after President Obama took office’ — even though Cain ran for president once before, in 2000.” Now though, Cain doesn’t seem to be having any fun. At another event on Capitol Hill, another mob of reporters awaited him. “‘Can you tell us why you lost your temper this morning?’ Fox News’s Chad Pergram asked, as Cain and his entourage walked through the hall.” Cain ignored them, allowing his bodyguard to keep shoving them out of the room. “When challenged, the bodyguard explained himself: ‘I make the rules.’ Not anymore,” writes Milbank.

    And I repeat; Willard “Mittens” Romney will “win” the Republican nomination and lose to BHO.

  • http://slayerwulfe slayerwulfe

    A guilty person knows when their guilty, why argue with them.

  • Bill Lee

    For all you Ron Paulers: “If (people) do things that you don’t like and you might find morally repugnant, I, as an individual, I don’t make that judgment. So, I don’t believe government can legislate virtue.” http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=3970423&page=1
    All you who think RP is virtuous. Think about this a minute. RP states that he’s 100% in line with the Bible. If that isn’t the biggest lie, what is..besides anything that come out of Obama’s mouth. Our country was founded on Biblical morality, not anything goes. So Ron’s fine with each state coming-up with their lifestyle, no holds barred. Anarchy is what he’s after. People will keep redrawing the line until we welcome Islam to come in and clean house. He’s a dangerous Kook. It all sound super fine to have a pure freedom of choice. But he doesn’t read the Bible. Man has a fallen nature and without God will destroy himself. History has proven this over and over and over. It’s just another version of man trying to create his own utopia without restraint.

    • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

      I am a born again Christian and I support Ron Paul. The Bible says you will know a man by his fruits. Look at Cain’s fruits. Look at Perry’s fruits. Look at Romney’s fruits. Look at Bachmann’s fruits. Now I ask you. Who has the best fruits? The answer is Ron Paul hands down.

      Just because someone says they are Christian, doesn’t mean you should blindly follow them. The Bible talks about false prophets. If you know a man by his fruits, how could you follow someone like Perry who wears his Christian religion on his sleeve but doesn’t do what he says? How could you follow someone like Bachmann who comes to Iowa, tells us she is having dinner with her family, and flat out lies to us? How can you trust someone like Romney who flip flops (lies) on EVERY issue to get your vote? How can you trust someone like Cain who lies to the American people about past allegations made against him. I agree, the past should be left in the past, but then to lie and attempt to cover it up when asked. It’s one thing to say, yes I made a mistake, but to lie about it is another.

      Ron Paul is consistent. He votes based on principal. He is honest, even if it is not something you want to hear, he will not lie about it. Even if it costs him votes, he remains truthful. These are all Christ like attributes. You cannot blindly follow anyone who calls themselves a Christian. Satan himself believes in Christ. The anti-Christ will call himself the Christ… If you know a man by his fruits and this is your measuring stick, Ron Paul is the clear choice for Christians, not the man who calls himself a Christian and doesn’t produce good fruit.

      • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

        Keep in mind that Ron Paul could just tell you everything you want to hear to get elected. He could lie through his teeth and say things to make everyone like him to get elected, then do whatever he wants after he gets in like Obama did. This is what Romney would do. This is what Cain would do. This is what Perry would do. This is NOT Ron Paul’s character. He is always honest and votes based on principle. He could… but he wont.

        • Johnny Galt

          The problem with that belief is that for 30 years Ron Paul has said the same thing, voted the same way, despite opposition from both parties. I’ve followed Dr. Paul for the past 30 years, so I know this to be true. All of the other Candidates (LIARS) don’t have this honor. All they have is dishonor for the Constitution, and all of them will continue down the same path of wanton spending, taxing and wasting our money.

          A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for liberty: http://www.RONPAUL2012.com

          • moebears

            Well said, gentlemen.

      • Tazio2013

        Are you saying that the Republican candidates are a bunch of fruits?

      • Patty

        WHAT makes anyone posting on here think that Cain had a say in this settlement? The company decided the best way to handle this, not Cain. Maybe he said these are baseless allegations, lets fight them. And the company said, not on our dime. Write the check, end it. I can pretty much bet everyone here, that is almost EXACTLY what happened.

        • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

          It doesn’t matter…

          Herman Cain thought the economy was fine one week before the collapse. Even the media was warning Americans, yet Cain stood up against all logic on this.

          Herman Cain thought the Fed was transparent and didn’t need an audit. He used to work for the Fed. Then shortly after an audit (Thanks to Ron Paul) reveals that there were over 16 trillion (yes trillion) in secret unreported bailouts. Much of which went to foreign countries.

          Only a fool would know these things and still support Herman Cain at a time like this.

          To see evidence, click on my name above to go to my website where I have all the videos and articles about Herman Cain.

          • Patty

            I don’t disagree with you Jason. I just don’t think that Paul has a chance. Here is my Utopia:
            Cain – President
            Romney- VP (they don’t do anything anyways)
            And his cabinet:
            Ron Paul – Finance -he can audit all he wants
            Sheriff Arpaio – Attorney General
            S Palin – EPA – she can disassemble them
            Bachman – Health and Human Services – she has raised 28 kids
            Paul Ryan – Jobs/budget

          • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

            Ron Paul DOESN’T have a chance… if you don’t vote for him.

            A vote for Herman Cain means the country is fine the way it is.

            If you are happy with the way our country is going, then vote for Herman Cain.

            http://www.tomwoods.com/blog/i-support-cain-means-the-countrys-fine-just-as-it-is/

          • Patty

            He was with the Federal Reserve from 1992-1996. Most of those bail-outs seem to be from 2006 forward. Here is the 266 page audit. Personally, I have to go to work and don’t have time to read it all. http://sanders.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/GAO%20Fed%20Investigation.pdf
            Be my guest if you have the time, enlighten me if you find anything. It did bother me that he was with the fed. Not so much now.

          • Patty

            Jason – I will vote Ron Paul in the primary. But I will vote Cain for president because I don’t think Paul has a chance to make it past that. We will see. I hope I am wrong. Just so I don’t see Romney on that ticket.

    • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

      One last thing: You say anarchy is what he is after… Really?

      Giving the power back to the states, as it was intended is NOT anarchy!

      It is easier to make a difference at your local (state) level than it is to do it at the federal level. In other words, it is easier to contact your state senators, governors… than it is to contact the President of the United States of America.

      Ron Paul only wants to give power back to the states.

    • DaveH

      You call Ron Paul a liar, Bill, because he doesn’t adhere to your particular interpretation of the Bible. But then you make this statement “Our country was founded on Biblical morality, not anything goes”. Sorry, Bill, but at best you’re wrong. Our country was founded on Freedom by moral people. They weren’t necessarily of any particular religious sect but they abided by the moral rules which best respected the rights and lives of their fellow man, i.e. Freedom.
      It is NOT moral to force your way on people who are doing you no harm (think Vice Crime, think Drug Wars).
      It is NOT moral to kill people in foreign countries who are not directly attacking our own country.
      It is NOT moral to steal other peoples’ money using the largest gang in the land as the enforcers.

      • eddie47d

        Amen, Ron Paul is no kook and values true freedoms.

    • Johnny Galt

      Congressman Ron Paul is no “kook.” He is a man who has dedicated his life to allowing us to live in a free society. Unfortunately, society has allowed all of the lying crooks in power to circumvent the Constitution, unlike Dr. Paul who only votes in favor of laws that were permissible under the Constitution. That does not sound like anarchy to me. A vote for anyone but Ron Paul is a vote for more of the same. More taxes, more waste, more tyranny.

      A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for liberty!

      http://www.RONPAUL2012.com

      • DaveH

        Go Johnny!

    • moebears

      Bill lee, is that the worst thing you can say about RP?

  • Tazio2013

    Understandably, the other woman in Herman Cain’s life — and by that I mean the other other woman — wants to respond to the comments he has made about her amid the sexual harassment scandal that has rocked his presidential campaign. Right now, however, she cannot do so because she is evidently bound by a contract she signed in which she expressly agreed to keep “confidential” the facts surrounding a settlement she allegedly received over a decade ago from the National Restaurant Association, which Cain led at the time. The Times has the details here.

    The woman’s lawyer, Joel P. Bennett of Washington, says that he has asked the Association to waive the confidentiality requirement his client signed way back when. That’s a perfectly reasonable, even polite way of trying to resolve the problem. I can’t imagine the Association will comply with his request but, hey, in a case where public opinion matters, it’s a smart move. Now, Bennett will at least be able to tell a judge that he first sought to work with the Association to allow his client to be able to express herself.

    Assuming the Association says no, Bennett will have two primary options for getting around the agreement. First, he can go to court and seek a declaratory judgment that states that the “confidentiality” provision is unconscionable, and against public policy, and thus cannot be enforced in the current circumstances. Or, Bennett can simply have his client speak out, technically breach the contract, and then make a similar argument on defense if the Association has the gall to sue the woman for defending her own honor. (Memo to Herman Cain: please don’t sing at your deposition).

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/11/how-cains-accuser-could-break-her-confidentiality-agreement/247759/

  • Matt

    If there is any one thing I have found out about the average run of the mill leftie, and that applies especially to their leaders, is that they are, by far, the most rabidly intolerent people in whose company I have often had the displeasure of being. In my experience they adhere to an attitude,deep within their make up,that harkens back to the 1950′s, and this even includes some my own family members.

    The left still seems to harbor the worst steriotipical opinions regarding Jews, women and people of color. The strangest thing is that these are the very traits that the left, liberals, democrats, progressives (what ever they collectively call themselves) proclaim that Conservatives and Republicans possess; however, they collectively still inherently view Arican-Americans as having their place on the plantation and they remain there, ever loyal to the master, the Democrat party. If and when a black dares to escape, the dogs are called out and the hunt is on for the miscreant, and a symbolic lynching takes place, To a lesser degree, this same view applies to women and most other minorities. they are looked upon as belonging to the left and any of their ilk going astray are severly dealt with by their minions, aka the press.

    God help us, where has freedom in America gone?

  • Aireck

    You say you want Cain to receive fair treatment, in effect arguing that we should apply the “innocent until proven guilty” principle in our judgment. Fair enough. However, dismissing these charges out-of-hand with no more evidence than your disdain for “the left” and “the mainstream media”, along with Cain’s denial (the accused almost always denies the charges, so this is of little help in any case with anyone) is no better than embracing them simply because you don’t like him or Republicans. In addition, since being a good President requires a person of top-notch character (and Cain is running almost entirely on his claims about his character), it is well within the voters’ rights to vet a candidate at least in part by how he or she responds to even old allegations. And by the way, the fact that Cain’s representatives settled with two of the accusers for a year’s worth of salary each doesn’t exactly exculpate him. We should wait and see how this pans out before making a final judgment.

  • DavidL

    Let’s begin with some simple facts.

    1. Was Mr. Cain ever accused of sexual harassment?

    The answer if yes.

    2. Has Mr. Cain admitted being accused of sexual harassment by at least two women?
    The answer is yes.

    3. Were those cases resolved each with a money settlement?

    The answer is yes.

    4. Does settlement of a case always mean the accused is guilty?

    The answer is no.

    Now for some opinion:

    5. Does Mr. Cain know more of the specifics of these cases than he is telling the public?

    The answer is yes.

    6. Who benefits from the troubles of Mr. Cain?

    The answer is the Perry campaign.

    7. Where did the leak of Mr. Cain’s sexual harassment past come from?

    The answer is Karl Rove.

    8. Should Mr. Cain completely clear the air about this entire matter once and for all by releasing all the documents of settlement?

    The answer is yes.

  • blesstheusa

    Listened to Cain’s interview yesterday on Hannity. Mr. Cain shared the lone settlement from the NRA was made to the woman for her SERVERANCE pay! It explained a lot…why he couldn’t recall a sexual harassment suit filed against him or the NRA in the early 90s!
    When I recently chose to voluntarily aeept and sign my severance papers from my employer, I knowingly agreed to the legal terms set forth by our HR and legal departments. I knew when signing, I agreed to keep the terms of my separation confidential. I knew HR or Legal could come back on me and demand the return of the settlement if I breached the contract.

    I do find it interesting the woman has requested the confidential agreement be lifted so she can tell her side of the story.
    1) what is she going to say, except to perpetuate the lies the mainstream press has managed to produce and ‘churn’ all week 2) after having already spent the money, she’d like to be able to tell her side of the story! Won’t we all!
    Isn’t that the best of both worlds ‘having your cake and eating it too?!’
    Heard major news media ‘can not’ pay source for an exclusive story they break, but ‘if you have a picture to sell’, they can buy the rights to the pictures so there is compensation to the person feeding the press. Anyone else smelling blood in the water to draw the sharks? Hmmm, think about all the pics we’ve had to endure this week from Kim Kardashian!!!

    During the C. Thomas hearing (lynching), conversation with my mother showed the true intent and turning of the media tide. When she said ‘well, Walter Cronkite reported it, so it must be true!’, we had a long conversation. We both realized the nightly news was no longer reliable, with its vent to slant and editorialize each story with their comments and bias.
    Our rule became, ‘tread carefully’ and realize, one must get their info from multiple sources and seek the truth before forming opinions.

    • blesstheusa

      “When I recently chose to voluntarily aeept and sign my severance papers from my employer, I knowingly agreed to the legal terms set forth”…

      I meant to say ‘voluntarily accept’!!!

  • steve in AZ

    Just another red herring to keep your attention focused on anything but Ron Paul’s message of liberty. Cain will weather this tempest in a teapot – or he won’t. Doesn’t matter either way. The main purpose is to prevent Americans from hearing Dr. Paul’s message.If Paul is not the nominee we’ll continue to sink into oblivion.

    DONATE NOW so you can VOTE RON PAUL 2012!!!

  • Insurgent

    So what is it in the woodpile?

  • mark

    This is an inside Republican hatchet job from the Perry campaign. It’s not the liberal media. FOX is giving it more coverage than anyone. Don’t forget the sex scandals that sank liberal/progressive political figures also, such as Bob Packwood, Bill Clinton, John Edwards, and Elliot Spitzer. The media loves sensation whether the scandal comes hurts the right or the left, whether the focus of the scandal is on a black or a white leader. Sex sells. Just look at Madison Avenues approach to U.S. advertising of everything from cars to cologne. Character assasination is part of the political game whether it was conducted against Kerry, Gore, or Bush. These are the times we live in. But it was just as bad during the Early Republic and the Gilded Age with horrendous rumours and accusations against political figures – some of them true like Grover Cleveland’s illegitimate child. This is political hard ball in the big leagues. It destroys the careers of liberals and conservatives alike

  • JUDY

    I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF ALLEGATIONS, IMATURE, PETULANT,
    SPOILED-BRAT BEHAVIOR IN THE POLITICAL ENVIRONMENT.
    YOU KNOW, WHEN A PERSON HAS A VALID ALLEGATION, THEY PERSUE
    A REMEDY FOR THEMSELVES AND OTHERS AND DON’T TAKE A MONEY-
    GRUBBING PAY-OFF TO BRUSH SOMETHING UNDER THE RUG. I DON’T
    BELIEVE THE ALLEGATIONS. MY SUPPORT FOR MR. CAIN GROWS
    STRONGER.
    LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC
    PARTY THEY CONTINUE TO LIE ABOUT.

    On every civil rights issue, Democrats have led the fight. We support vigorous enforcement of existing laws, and remain committed to protecting fundamental civil rights in America.

    This is a blatant lie, and Reverend Wayne Perryman and Robert Parks have called them on it.

    “Rev. Sharpton said we never got our ‘40 acres and a mule’, wrote Parks in his legal brief to the courts.

    ”Yes, we did, and they were taken away by a Democrat.”

    From Parks’ legal brief:

    On January 12, 1865, General Sherman and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton went to meet with twenty Black community leaders in Savannah, Georgia to discuss freedom and reparations for former Black slaves.… By June 1865, over 40,000 former slaves were settled on 40-acre tracts of land. Over 400,000 acres were allocated. In September of 1865, Democrat President Andrew Johnson reversed Field Order No. 15, issued special pardons, and returned the land to former slave owners.’ The Republicans gave, yet a Democrat took it away.

    Part of the lawsuit is to ensure the Democrat Party is portraying their history truthfully and factually. Rev. Perryman writes:

    Modern-day Democrats must stop preaching that they are the compassionate party of black people and confess that it was their predecessors who started many of the racist practices that we are now trying to eradicate. History clearly shows two things: (1) that the roots of racism grew deep in the hearts and souls of the Democrats and (2) without the past efforts of the Radical Republicans and the Abolitionists, the Civil Rights Legislation of the sixties would not have been possible. Republicans laid the foundation for civil rights by passing legislation and instituting programs that Democrats’ were adamantly opposed to, such as:

    1. The Thirteenth Amendment in 1865 to abolish slavery.

    2. The Civil Rights Act of 1866 to give Negroes citizenship and protect freed men from Black Codes and other repressive legislation.

    3. The First Reconstruction Act of 1867 to provide more efficient Government of the Rebel- or Democrat-controlled states.

    4. The Fourteenth Amendment in 1868 to make all persons born in the United States citizens. Part of this Amendment specifically states “No State shall deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; or deny any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

    5. The Fifteenth Amendment of 1870 to give the right to vote to every citizen.

    6. The Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 to stop Klan terrorists to terrorized black voters, Republicans, white teachers who taught blacks, and Abolitionists.

    7. The Civil Rights Act of 1875 to protect all citizens in their civil and legal rights and to prohibit racial discrimination in places of public accommodation.

    8. Freedmen’s Bureau was a social program established by Republicans to feed, protect, and educate the former slaves.

    9. The 1957 Civil Rights Act and the 1960 Civil Rights Act were signed into law by President Eisenhower who also established the U.S. Civil Rights Commission in 1958, a commission that was rejected by Truman during his administration.

    10. The 1964 Civil Rights Act which key Republicans pushed law through while key Southern Democrats like Al Gore Sr. debated against its passage. More Republicans (in percentages) voted for this law than Democrats.”

    Parks says, “They are ashamed of their past and do not want Blacks to look under the hood of their history.”

    Case in point, President Woodrow Wilson is a hero to the Democratic Party but Parks says there is much about Wilson’s racist-driven presidency that he “didn’t learn in college.”

    “Wilson allowed various officials to segregate the toilets, cafeterias, and work areas of their departments. One justification involved health: White government workers had to be protected from contagious diseases, especially venereal diseases, that racists imagined were being spread by blacks. In extreme cases, federal officials built separate structures to house black workers. Most black diplomats were replaced by whites; numerous black federal officials in the South were removed from their posts; the local Washington police force and fire department stopped hiring blacks. Wilson’s own view, as he expressed it to intimates, was that federal segregation was an act of kindness.”

    “Suppose a Republican president had done all that in the past. Democrats would raise hell,” said Parks, adding, “You can Google ‘Woodrow Wilson Segregationist.’ Democrats did not count on the internet to give people access to truth. Many Democrats don’t want to deal with me when I ask them about Wilson. Why?”

    The Amicus Curiae ends with this: “Since the DNC sees fit to distort and cover-up their true racist history to cause black Americans to feel good towards them, I say to the Democrat Party like Rev. Jesse Jackson said to George W. Bush: ‘Come clean!’ No matter what, the Democratic Party owns its racist history and must admit to black Americans the truth.

    • mark

      President Andrew Johnson was a Republican. He was Abraham Lincoln’s vice-president; they both ran on the same Republican ticket in 1864. Presidents and their vice-presidents were always of the same political party after the 1804 12th amendment to the Constitution.

    • mark

      All Southern Democrats were ferocious conservatives in the 19th and most of the 20th century. From 1880 to 1980 or so, all Southern Democratic Senators and Congressmen were rock-solid conservatives: they believed in states rights, a limited federal gov’t, fierce anti-communism, a strong military budget, low taxes, no social programs, and opposition of giving rights and benefits to minorities. They drove the national Democratic Party that was much more liberal esp. in the 20th century, crazy with their opposition to liberalism and progressivism. By the late 1970s and early 1980s these conservative Democrats left the party and became Republicans. People often forget that the Democratic Party had a large conservative wing anchored in the South up until the 1970s. The Republican Party of those days also had a substantial liberal wing from the Northeast: Lowell Weicker, Edward Brooke, Nelson Rockefeller, Jacob Javitts, etc. Don’t get caught up with party labels. They meant very little in those days. The Southern Democratic senators, congressmen, and governors of the 1920s-1970s who opposed integration, civil rights legislation and were fiercely racist were all rock-solid conservatives who despised the liberal leadership of their own national party and fought anti-lynching laws and civil rights tooth and nail. Their conservative ideology defined them much more than their party affiliation.

  • amanda

    You have to look deeper than the surface on this one. The real problem is that Cain had 10 days advance notice of this harassment story coming out and his response was to deny it and to pretend it never happened. Someone ready for prime time would have lined up women and other prominent people who would be ready to defend his good character. Instead this whole fiasco now looks like Cain was trying to cover everything up no matter what happens. It looks like Cain doesn’t know what he doing and that is not what we need in the White House at this time.

  • bob wire

    Well, having being victimized in similar fashion by women with an ax to grind and something to proved or gains to extort. I’m as sympathetic with Cain’s position as probably anyone here.

    Having some experience in this area I understand the position that he finds himself in today. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. As a man is placed in a distinct disadvantage in a public court of opinion automatically. Anything that you offer as a defense makes you appear only more guilt.

    I had to clean up my act and never allowed it to go so far as to pay people thousands of dollars to shut up and just go away.

    It’s a lacking in people skills that gets a man trapped in this position. Cain is not the first man that failed to understand women. If they “want you” they will let you know. Some will like a guy like you and some won’t. So get over it and move on.

    This old horn dawg carried it too far, too often. If memory serves , I attempted to bring all of you up to speed about the Pizza Business a few weeks ago and man such as Cain’s interest in it.

    It’s about Beer, Pizza, Power and exploiting young people (especially young women) working enter level positions as they make those first foot steps from the nest.

    Do you remember being young? ` wanting independence, wanting acceptance? wanting to prove your worthy?

    I shouldn’t have to draw you a pictures and beat you over the head.

    • Patty

      Boy, those last 4 paragraphs are really a reach.

      • bob wire

        I’m sorry,~ you are right of course.

        I need create a thesis that draws you pictures , beats you up and shoves the whole thing up your assets for you to ever understand. You can just scream when you get the picture.

    • http://deleted Claire

      bob wire–Your comment “Do you remember being young?” I will comment on this statement. Yes, I do remember being young. I thought I was gorgeous; I had no fear of anything or anyone; I had self-confidence and self-esteem that knew no bounds; I was self-centered; no one “told” “me” what to do since I “knew” everything; I never thought about getting “old”; I lived for the day; and when I look back at my youth I thank God I had my Mother, she kept me “in line.” Now that I am much older, I realize how stupid I really was at times and I wasn’t as smart as I thought I was. Even at my age I am still learning, and I hope I stay open-minded enough to think rationally and logically. Life is not to be taken for granted, a person will reap what they sow, eventually. A person is judged by the company they keep, the way they conduct themselves during their lifetime. A person has one “reputation” and it is up to that person to “protect” that reputation. If they err, sometimes they are forgiven, and sometimes they are not. It is unfair at times especially since some people can “get by” with the mistakes they have made and come out smelling like a rose, while others are crucified.

      • DaveH

        As the Rick Nelson lyrics go “You see, you can’t please everyone, so you got to please yourself”. I believe those lyrics are right on target. If we don’t live by our own moral code, we will pay the price, one way or the other. The most important thing in anybody’s life is that they truly like who they are and have a clear conscience.
        I think you are a very good person, Claire.

  • http://PersonalLiberty AZ Tom

    Just “what if” there is fire? A NORMAL person never had a suit for sexual harassment filed against him. I still would like to expose all sides. We have been bitten by a President that has lied and lied. Cain’s 9-9-9 plan seriously affects us seniors from the standpoint of raising our taxes and diminishing our SS income.

    • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

      On the other hand, Ron Paul wants to protect Social Security and allow the young (25 and under) to opt-out. His spending cuts are the only way this is even possible. No other candidate has a plan that will or can protect Social Security. If you are depending on Social Security, Ron Paul is your only choice.

  • FreedomFighter

    It would not surprise me Obama has Spooks planted in every Republican campain office ready to “make anon calls with info” or “leak XYZ”.

    Think about it, put a rat in the Perry camp and use said rat to leak info on Cain, thus killin 2 conservatives with one stone. Then thrash Romni Rhino in the Race.

    Its Chicago politics. Yes im paranoid, dosnt mean Im wrong.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • dan

    “I had seen nothing like it since the communists and their allies set out to ruin Senator Joe McCarthy. Unhappily for our country, they succeeded with McCarthy.” Realy Chip? You think McCarthy”ism” was good for the Country?

    • FreedomFighter

      Its been proven McCarthy was justified, he was right, they burned him so the country wouldnt know he was.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • bob wire

        That’s an “opinion” shared in small circles.

        • FreedomFighter

          That circle was called KGB.

          Laus Deo
          Semper Fi

      • Tazio2013

        You are both paranoid and wrong.

        Sapere Aude!

        Semper Fi!

        • FreedomFighter

          “The VENONA Project files, declassified in 1995, provided indisputable evidence that nearly all of those McCarthy accused were traitors to America. Not surprisingly, the media ignored these documents completely, instead choosing to run yet another round of anti-McCarthy propaganda.”

          http://www.senatormccarthy.com/

          You can start here if you want.

          Laus Deo
          Semper Fi

    • bob wire

      evidently he does dan. and Goldwaters speech to memory I would think.

      Isn’t it great to know such things? I enjoy our little talks and windows views into the minds of fellow Americans.

  • BenDoubleCrossed

    The hush-hush of politics is controlling a segment of people without those people recognizing they are being managed.

    In 1789 The Constitution and Bill of Rights are established as the law of the land.

    For 97 years it was understood that 1st Amendment freedoms of speech, press and assembly were the sole rights of flesh and blood citizens. Corporations had no rights. Newspapers had the right to print because they employed people and not the other way around.

    “The 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy; the growth of corporate power; and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.” -Alex Carey, Australian social scientist who pioneered the investigation of corporate propaganda (see Taking the Risk Out Of Democracy, Univ of New South Wales, 1995)

    In 1886 footnotes to the Santa Clara Railroad case, written by a Supreme Court Clerk who was previously a railroad executive, became the basis for corporations claiming the same rights as flesh and blood people.

    Following reports of serious financial abuses in the 1972 Presidential campaign, Congress amended the FECA in 1974 to set limits on contributions by individuals, political parties and PACs. But politicians exempted the commercial press, because the 1st Amendment prohibits abridging their freedom of speech and the press.

    2 USC 431 (9) (B) (i) The term “expenditure” does not include any news story, commentary, or editorial distributed through the facilities of any broadcasting station, newspaper, magazine, or other periodical publication, unless such facilities are owned or controlled by any political party, political committee, or candidate;

    But we cannot rely on the commercial press to be unbiased and provide the information we need to remain free. Both Republicans and Democrats agree the press is biased and only differ on which networks and newspapers are the culprits:

    A newspaper must at all times antagonize the selfish interests of that very class which furnishes the larger part of a newspaper’s income… The press in this country is dominated by the wealthy few…that it cannot be depended upon to give the great mass of the people that correct information concerning political, economical and social subjects which it is necessary that the mass of people Shall have in order that they vote…in the best way to protect themselves from the brutal force and chicanery of the ruling and employing classes. (E.W. Scripps).

    In my opinion the idea of media being objective was a marketing ploy to sell newspapers:

    “It was not until the 1920s that you really get the notion of professional journalists, the way we think about them today,” says Michael Delli Carpini, dean of the Annenberg School of Communication at the University of Pennsylvania. “A lot of different schools of journalism started, codes of ethics were developed, the whole notion of the journalist as objective came into play …. of standing outside the story, telling both sides, of being factual rather than opinionated.”

    If the United States Supreme Court defined freedom of religion using the same logic that campaign laws use to define a free press only the church or synagogue “as an institution” would enjoy freedom of religion, not its parishioners!

    This law divides participation in America’s political process into two categories: The regulated majority, every living U.S. Citizen, candidate for office, political party and political organization and the unregulated commercial media.

    To restore equal protection under law, the “press exemption”, 2 USC 431 (9) (B) (i), should be modified to read: “The term expenditure does not include any news story, commentary, or editorial distributed by any citizen, citizens group, broadcasting station, newspaper, magazine, or other periodical publication.”

    Every man is equally entitled to protection by law; but when the laws undertake to add… artificial distinctio¬ns, to grant titles, gratuities¬, and exclusive privileges¬, to make the rich richer and the potent more powerful, the humble members of society–t¬he farmers, mechanics, and laborers–¬who have neither the time nor the means of securing like favors to themselves¬, have a right to complain of the injustice of their government¬. President Andrew Jackson.

    The 1st Amendment does not guarantee our freedoms but it does prohibit Congress from writing laws that would abridge them. The 1st Amendment was added to the Constitution because some State representatives to the Constitutional Convention feared the power of an over reaching Central Government. State Constitutions are where protections of our freedoms of speech, press and assembly are found. The 14th Amendment attempts to extend Federal protection to the Bill of Rights and in this instance is misconstrued. Only Congress can violate the 1st Amendment and the Federal Campaign Act and the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act violate the prohibitions of the 1st Amendment. Federal Campaign laws abridge freedoms of speech, press by limiting how much money individual citizens and citizens groups can donate to their candidates and issues, and they abridge freedom of assembly by declaring it a crime for candidates, political parties and grass roots organizations to coordinate their advertising campaigns.

    The solution to limiting corporate influence and restoring flesh and blood citizen’s control of politics is not limiting how much individuals and grass roots organizations can spend communicating. There is no Constitutional basis for making political coordination a crime? Does a candidate for office have the responsibility or authority to tell a citizen or citizens group they cannot simultaneously put out campaign materials from the candidate and a grass roots organization that supports the candidate? Where in the Constitution does participating in politics require a candidate or citizen to give up 1st Amendment freedoms of assembly and association?

    UNITED STATES v. ASSOCIATED PRESS – Decided June 18, 1945
    It would be strange indeed however if the grave concern for freedom of the press which prompted adoption of the First Amendment should be read as a command that the government was without power to protect that freedom. That Amendment rests on the assumption that the widest possible dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources is essential to the welfare of the public, that a free press is a condition of a free society. Surely a command that the government itself shall not impede the free flow of ideas does not afford non-governmental combinations a refuge if they impose restraints upon that constitutionally guaranteed freedom. Freedom to publish means freedom for all and not for some. Freedom to publish is guaranteed by the Constitution, but freedom to combine to keep others from publishing is not. Freedom of the press from governmental interference under the First Amendment does not sanction repression of that freedom by private interests.

    But corporate media can be part of the solution if they walk their talk:

    The commercial press is the most well-known promoter of campaign reforms to get money out of politics. Among reasons given is the need to level the playing field for challengers.

    Since the only thing campaigns produce is information for public distribution and the cost of distribution is the origin of much of the need for money in politics, why don’t the commercial media offer to publish and broadcast candidate and issue ads for free?

    Not likely: there is speculation Obama may raise a billion dollars and Republicans 750 million. Campaign season is Christmas for media corporations.

  • Baba

    Yes We Cain! The harassment that Americans have eddured the past three years is nothing compared to the trivial accusations that you are now facing. Whatever happened ten years ago, if anything, is minor compared to the Obama Administration’s obstrucion of American rights and the total disregard for the Constitution of the United States. Keep Campaigning! Forget the political vomit that spews from other candidates and stay the course! We are counting on you because “Yes We Cain!

    • Tazio2013

      No You Cain’t!

      • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

        lol

        Cain is unable!

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    If you’re like me, you may ask: Why won’t liberals/democraps, instead of attacking Herman Cain with frivolous allegations of sexual harassment, look for reasons to force RINOs like Huntsman or Romney out of the race for POTUS?? Well, at this point, it appears Huntsman has no chance of nomination. But for some stupid reason, many goofy republicans and RINOs prefer Romney, and he has a good chance of nomination. I think I can understand why liberals, leftists, drones and democraps may want to be the ones to pick the GOP nominee for 2012. Mit-nitwit may or may not be able to defeat BHO in November 2012. And even if Nitwit gets elected POTUS, the left knows he’ll only get one term, as he’s not much different from BHO. The left knows how a large % of ignorant voters will react to the RINO Romney’s (failed) presidency – by putting the democraps back in power in 2014 and 2016, as they did in 2006 and 2008, respectively.

    On the other hand, Herman Cain could be another Ronald Reagan-like success. And if he picks the right running mate for VP, that VP could become POTUS in 2020 and also be successful. And BTW, the nominee’s choice for VP running mate is important. E.g., if he says “Read my lips – no new taxes”, he should stand firm and not cower to democraps as did the first POTUS Bush. Remember – there’s a good chance that the VP candidate of 2012 could be the POTUS nominee of 2020. They could put today’s leftwing Democrap Party out of power for along time, or maybe permanently!! Thus it’s no wonder the left fears Herman Cain, as well as Michelle Bachmann, and (if she runs in the future) Sarah Palin. It’s obvious a RINO Romney presidency could be a temporary minor setback for the left, but firm solid conservatives could be the final nail in the coffin of the liberals’ statist agenda. ….. Finally, if Nitwit Romney is the nominee, the left will NOT vote for him. Like the King of RINOs Colin Powell, they will still endorse and vote for One Big Awful Mistake America as they did on 11/4/2008!!

  • http://moniquer7 Merlin

    I don’t know if he did or he didn’t. I hope that he didn’t. I don’t approve of that sort of behavior. But on the other hand it didn’t hurt Bill Clinton or Ted Kennedy. But I guess that there is a double standard for dems and repubs.

  • Viola Perry

    We have knack for picking the wrong people. In fact, not one of the candidates is worth my vote. They are recycled politicians and this man, who said that if you are poor it is your fault. Everyone knows that we all can’t be millionaires and those who are got it mostly from ripping off their employees and their customers. Just look at the CEOs that pay themselves these huge salaries and bonuses for doing what, caretaker of the company, nothing else, they don’t create something for the world like Steve Jobs did, nope, they just take care and for that they deserve all that money, makes no sense. This man wants to destroy social security but does not know that we overpaid SS for 10 long years so we could take care of the retiring baby boomers and then government stole the money, just like Clinton and his expert panel robbed the pension funds of major corporations and now claim they are broke.

    • Patty

      WE don’t pick who we get to vote for. They were picked for us. Put out in front of us. Propped up or vilified accordingly, and narrowed down to 2.

  • Don

    I’m afraid we have seen the best of America. Rioters have taken over major cities. Burning and looting continue to spread. Where are the politicians and law enforcement? Not a sound from the White House. No leadership anywhere. Drugs pouring into the USA. Border agents being paid to look the other way. We are billions of dollars in debt and spending tax payers dollars on nonsense continues. Let’s cut to the chase,there are no jobs and none in sight. Tax the rich is a stupid slogan. There are not enough of them to make a dent in what we owe. Hold on middle class, surprise, your going to the cleaners for all the bad spending. Do you feel the pain? Not yet? Well you will soon. The dollar will be cut in half. Social Security bankrupt. Medicare bankrupt. Crime will spiral out of control. So what’s the answer?…… Kick everyone out of the Congress now. Elect all new reps. Spend only what you need to survive,and bury the rest. Folks, please, you do not vote for someone who is digging your grave. FAMILY AND COUNTRY FIRST. We can do this.

  • JeffH

    What’s true and who’s being honest here is the question? Exactly, to question = doubt! The media and the lieberal left as well as the Obama camp are experts at “charachter assassination”. Both political parties are experts at “charachter assassination”. You either play by their rules or you don’t get to play at all. Once the “seed of doubt” is planted, it will grow and grow…the media will see to that! Everyone who relies soley on the airwaves to keep them “in the know” will see to it. On the beltway they don’t like anyone that threatens their “reign of terror” on the American people. Ask the “Tea Party” caucus in congress? They feel the discomfort amongst their congressional collegues.

    Every day more and more Americans are wising up to these political assassination games and quite frankly are getting tired of it. In the words of Rahmbo Deadfish…”never let a crisis go to waste”.

    Pete Meersman, the president of the Colorado Restaurant Association and a member of the national group in the 1990s, said in an interview on Thursday evening that he did not witness any inappropriate conduct by Mr. Cain or hear that any complaints were taken to the executive board. But he said that he was not surprised that Mr. Cain’s background was being scrutinized. He said the culture at the association included entertainment and drinking.

    “It is the hospitality industry — we’re not the women’s temperance union,” Mr. Meersman said. “But it’s not like people were overconsuming.”

    In an interview, Thomas A. Kershaw, who served as chairman of the board of the association in 1997 and 1998, said that he was not aware of any allegations against Mr. Cain. But he said his sense of humor left room for misinterpretation. “Herman is kind of a kidder, kind of a jokester, particularly when he’s in a relaxed situation,” he said. “I think some people misunderstood what he was saying or what his intent was.”

    He added, “I know he’s just a great guy and a wonderful motivator and so forth. I just can’t figure this out.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/04/us/politics/woman-said-to-feel-work-hostility-after-alleged-encounter-with-cain.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

    Ron Paul/Judge Andrew Napolitano 2012

  • Hazel Kliner

    Cain should tell people what Clinton and the libs told us. None of our business.

    “In the first five days of Hill’s charges (October 6-10,1991), the network evening shows (on ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, and PBS’s NewsHour) aired 67 stories.”

    “But in the first five days after Juanita Broaddrick…charged the President with rape in The Wall Street Journal (February 19-23), the number of evening news stories was two. That’s a ratio of 67 to 2.”

    http://www.mrc.org/realitycheck/realitycheck/2011/20111101124925.aspx

    Juanita Broaddrick accused clinton of rape

    Paula Jones accused clinton of exposing himself to her(not harassment in the libs book, I guess)

    Kathleen Willey Said clinton groped her in the oval office.

    My my how hypocritical.

  • JoAnn Dolberg

    Karen Finney is racist to have even come up with her rediculous reasoning as to why whites like Herman Cain! I don’t suppose it has ocurred to her that they might just be sick and tired of the direction in which our leaderless country is going.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Thats right. I like most of what Im hearing from him, and I dislike over 90 percent of the things I hear from Obama. And there are those who would be quick to pull out the race card, and say because I am white and dont like Obama, that Im racist. Those people, I assure you, are the ones with a race problem. There is no doubt about it.

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    No matter who rises to the top as the “other guy” that the democrats will be running against, the liberal media is going to conduct a total smear campaign against them. They attacked and tried to destroy Sarah Palin, and when they couldnt do it, they went after her family and even fabricated things and got away with it. Then Mitt Romney was looking like the front runner, they attacked and smeared him. Then it was Rick Perry’s turn, and they attacked and smeared him. You never heard anything of Herman Cain. Poof. Here he comes, he rises to the top as the leading candidate, and bam, bam, here we go again, the Democrat liberal media starts attacking and putting out negative press against him. Can you imagine what would be said about Ron Paul if all the sudden there was a huge movement and he rose to the top of the polls? Yes folks, it would be democratic left wing liberal media attack time on Ron Paul. That is what these anti American liberals on the left do. They attack and discredit, whether it is the truth or not, and there is no one left to hold them responsible in the public eye, as they are the press that reports this stuff. This is the exact reason why 7 years ago I cancelled my newpaper and havent gone back. And the idiots are still trying to figure out why their circulation of newpapers keeps going down and down. Imagine that.

    • theotherrhalf

      Liberal media, what an excuse.

      Right wing strategy is to call the media liberal even when they are not.

      http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1067

      liberal media = truth tellers, you just don’t want to read about it cause it hurts your end game.

  • James

    Herman Cain was a manager of one of the twelve federal reserve banks. He’s an insider.

    • FreedomFighter

      They didnt promote him and keep him, maybe a good sign?

      Just a thought.

      Laus Deo
      Semper fi

      • Patty

        He was there from 1992-1996. He went from Deputy Chief to Top Dog.

  • BigBadJohn

    The whole Clinton witch hunt was based on UNFOUNDED ALLEGATIONS. After six years of persistent false allegations and 100 million dollars of tax payers money,he was finally caught having a sexual encounter with a willing adult female – which he lied about.

    Cain paid off a settlement for these complaints. Unless you are brain dead – that is the same as pleading guilty! These are not allegations – they are FACT! If the story was leaked – sorry – welcome to the world of presidential politics.

    Why are conservatives so hypocritical?

    • Patty

      He didn’t pay them off, the company did. It was a cost savings and there fore prudent on the companies part. You are brain dead if you think that that is not how it works. I have cut 3 of those nusance go the hell away checks myself for a couple of companies. I know they were NEVER harassed or discriminated against.

      • BigBadJohn

        Sure it is cheaper to pay off nuisance complaints than to go to court. BUT IT IS STILL THE SAME AS ADMITTING GUILT!.

        when someone cops a plea to lesser charges and pays the fine – they are admitting guilt – same thing.
        Like it or not, once you admit guilt, it paves the way for others to also make the same complaints in hope of also getting a check.

        Do I think this disqualifies Cain – hell no, but it is not a “High tech lynching”, it is exposing the truth about something he admitted to.

        • Patty

          You just don’t get it. He did not admit to it. The company did to get rid of them and paid them to go away. Don’t be clueless, please.

  • Michael Douglas

    Clinton & JFK had many extramarital affairs yet the liberals love them.Has Cain been accused of any extramarital affairs?Tedd Kennedy was drunk & drove off of a bridge killing a women yet the liberals love him.Has Cain been accused of killing a woman?Anthony Weiner sent pictures of his wiener over his phone yet the liberals love him.Has Cain been accused of sending pictures of his wiener over the net?All Herman Cain has been accused of is making several women “uncomfortable”.For that some people think he should not be our next president????Are some of you people insane?

  • J.R. HILL

    SEXUAL HARASSMENT IS A JOKE. IN THE 1940S AT THE AGE OF 13 I STARTED WORKING IN MY DAD’S EATING PLACE. THE GIRLS, HI SCHOOL AND OLDER, WERE HIT UP ALL DAY LONG EVERY DAY BY BOTH OTHER MALE WORKERS AND CUSTOMERS. THEY THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY AND WOULD HAVE FELT LEFT-OUT HAD THE SO-CALLED HARASSMENT NOT EXISTED.
    ALONG CAME THE FEME-NAZAIS AND WHAM…ISN’T IT ALL WONDERFUL?

    • theotherrhalf

      So you miss being able to pat some behinds and get away with it?

    • Karolyn

      The way society treats its women is an indication of its values and morals. In matriarchal societies, there is no rape or domestic violence. Even in Europe there is less of these crimes because, in general, women are more highly regarded. It starts with the little remarks as part of the continuum of abuse. You let the little things go, which leads to the next step, and then the next….

      • libertytrain

        That must exclude at least Greece, Italy and France….or they would all be charged with the same things Cain is being accused of…. :)

      • DaveH

        Karolyn,
        You can say anything you want. But, can you back it up? References, please.

  • theotherrhalf

    Herman Cain is a joke, a distraction, a way for the republicans to say they are not racist. A way for the right to say hey we like black people too!
    Cain is an oxymoron, according to the pubs “pay no taxes” rules. This guy wants to impose even more taxes.

    And since you bring up Clarence T., most so called bible believing Christian republicans will spout “Obey the law of the Land” as in the old testament. Yet they have placed that goober in a high moral position and treats him as though he has ethics, he CHEATS on his taxes for gods sake. That is NOT very Christian at all.

    The REAL candidate for liberty, moral integrity and ethical behavior is is Ron Paul.

    • bob wire

      don’t you just hate people like this? ???????????????????????

    • Raggs

      Oh well I guess that oblama has never thought about raising taxes? Or maybe he just wants to raise taxes on the less than 50% of the people that work for a living?
      Maybe the best thing to do is to take everything that someone works for and give it away to the drug headed occupy wall street bunch of idiots?
      A better idea is that we can sell out to China the way the Clintons did that way we can all be happy doing nothing. Or we can all join a union that demands that we retire when and after we do nothing for 2 hours a day for a year.

      A better idea lets all be stupid… and tell oblama to care for us.
      Hell lets just sit on our ass…

  • http://dpruitt@firstms.net Lee Pruitt

    Chip I hope the allegations are not true but will not vote for Cain for the following reasons alone:

    1. supported Tarp
    2. He is FAR from an outsider playing at the highest corporate (NRA president) and governmental levels (head of Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas. He is an insider and is lucky he is being called the pizza man rather than the man who prints up the funny money.
    3.His 9/9/9 plan AT BEST is revenue neutral. At worst just more taxes and more money turned over for government to grow even larger/more intrusive. I want to vote for someone who GETS IT that it is NOT a revenue issue but a spending issue.

    There is only one candidate that meets the above conservative attributes/criteria and that is Ron Paul. It does not hurt one bit that he understands the monetary system through free market economics (Austrian) and NOT Keynesian which put us in this mess. He also understands the biggest problem is allowing a foreign entity (The so called “federal” reserve handling America’s “money/debt”). Finally he KNOWS 95% of America’s problems vanish if we follow our Constitution. Herman Cain does not know any of this and as a result is not the best qualified. Cain actually is a more government man.

    Best regards,

    L Pruitt
    Greenville SC 29607

  • http://www.r3voluti0n.com/ Jason

    Herman Cain has breakfast with Henry Kissinger. I wonder what they were talking about?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5PRQNybAKQ

    “Military men are ‘dumb, stupid animals to be used’ as pawns for foreign policy.” — Henry Kissinger, quoted in the book The Final Days

    “Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries.” — Henry Kissinger, National Security Memo 200, dated April 24, 1974

    “The elderly are useless eaters.” — Henry Kissinger, quoted in the book The Final Days

    “World population needs to be decreased by 50%” — Henry Kissinger

    “Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government.” — Henry Kissinger, speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992 Bilderburg meeting. Unbeknownst to Kissinger, his speech was taped by a Swiss delegate to the meeting.

    “Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.” — Henry Kissinger, quoted in the book The Final Days “I don’t see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves.” — Henry Kissinger, 1973, about Chile prior to the CIA overthrow of the democratically elected government of socialist President Salvadore Allende

    “The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.” — Henry Kissinger, New York Times, Oct. 28, 1973 Airing Date Nov.04, 2011- Herman Cain Has Breakfast With Henry Kissinger

    Herman Cain would carelessly put U.S. warships in the Persian Gulf just to provoke them, even if he knew ahead of time it would start a war with Iran. Need I remind Herman how many wars we are already in and the state of our economy? Have we forgotten what happened to the Soviets?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbItrfEYF3o

  • FreedomFighter

    Report: Now Rahm Emanuel Allegedly Behind Cain Sexual Harassment Leak

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-now-rahm-emanuel-allegedly-behind-cain-sexual-harassment-leak/

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • Raggs

    Question….

    Why are we focused on Herman Cain while all of us should and need to be focused on the failed oblama?

    In other words… No matter how much mud that you throw into the ring of pigs the dirtiest hog is oblama.

    • bob wire

      Simple Raggs, because we don’t all agree.

      but a good try my friend.

      • Raggs

        So we are friends now?

        That is too funny… Excuse me while I take a bath.

        • bob wire

          Good idea Raggs, after a day of slinging mud, you look and smell like the target.

  • bob wire

    “Stupid is, as Stupid does”

    Forest Gump

    • Raggs

      That really seemed to work for clinton. Well oblama too :)
      So now we have to wait for the next dumbass thing that he does?

      • bob wire

        It works for everybody raggs , even you!

  • bob wire

    Clarance Thomas is a wasted set! Thank you George, one more time.

    W Bush, the gift that keeps giving.

  • mel in texas

    For someone who is telling the OWS people to take responsibility for themselves this guy is sure churning out a lot “poor me” rhetoric and as Kris Kristofferson said in a song “shifting his share of the blame”. He’s an obvious liar, Barack obama all over again.

  • Karolyn

    Off topic – If some of you might deign to watch Chris Cuomo on 20/20 tonight going after congressmen to lower their benefits to one more equitable with “regular” Americans, it might just be interesting. the MSM isn’t all bad.

    • Raggs

      When pigs fly.

      Oh but wait oblama has wings so… sure I will take about 1 second to watch that crap.

  • Raggs

    World population now reaching 7 billion.
    I have no idea what 1 billion people look like.
    And to think that our debt is well over a thousand times worse?
    Nothing about this equation is substainable!!!

  • Alex

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha…..smear campaigns sure hurt, don’t they?

  • bob wire

    For those of you who would support Cain.

    It’s my hope that you might and still can.

    He will get his head handed to him in a New York minute.

    We need a stupid vote to cancel out the bad vote.

    and I’d enjoy watching it happen.

    You have my best wishes and fond regards

    bw

    • Raggs

      Well karo.. I guess that you dont get it yet and probably you havent had any since it had you..
      I hope that you continue to believe that oblama’s chit dont stink.
      At least then when he loses prehaps the smell you can ignore.

  • http://www.gillysrooms.blogspot.com Gilly

    Its all about popularity and any woman can make a claim even if not true and then sell her story to the media. Even that 16 year old singer is being sued for $12,000 per month maintenance because the 19 year old woman claims the child is his. The more he denies it the more the story winds up and she’ll make money with her claims and her attorneys get free media publicity throughout the country. How much would it cost to get that type of media attention if you had to pay for it? You could not afford it. Everybody want to go to Hollywood and that is part of the reason why Cain is going to get a roasting. The other reason his popularity is crowding out someone else.

    When I stood as an Independent Candidate in a State Election for the seat of Mitcham during 1992 against sitting Labour member John Harrowfield and lazy pretty boy Liberal Party member Rodger Prescott, I was a strong contender and would have won as both party’s gave me their preference as they are bitterly opposed to each other on policy matters.Socialist vs Free enterprise. Anyway the leader of the Liberal Party Jeff Kennett was worried he might not win that seat and a few others so he came out a wrong statement – A VOTE FOR AN INDEPENDENT WAS A VOTE FOR LABOR which whilst not true still had the effect of putting the seed of doubt in my voters minds to such an extent that I did not win the expected votes. I can assure you I have never been a socialist, yet the so-called free enterprise Liberal Party where afraid of my real FREE ENTERPRISE Libertarian policies where catching on with the voters and they wanted to squash that real possibility. The mood changed and the doubt grew as the election date got closer because of the untruths which were promoted by Jeff Kennett’s campaign managers.

    Moreover to show how the media barons can stuff up a campaign further, the Whitehorse Leader newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch had been booked by me to run a prepaid pre-booked with a page premium advertisement to secure my last advertisement in the prominent page 3 of that paper only to have it appear on page 27 where I did not want it nor would I have bothered to advertise on that page. They refunded me the premium. You decide why that happend.

    This is the type of corruption every non mainstream Candidate can expect if you start looking like a real threat to their people. But at least Cain has had the courage to STAND UP AND BE COUNTED by running as a candidate. More people should be encouraged to do so in the spirit of true free enterprise even if their views are not my views. It should not be left to a few of the political party cartels to be the only ones who can run as a candidate if the there where truly free enterprise. In my case The Liberal Party in Australia talks about supporting free enterprise EXCEPT when it comes to competitive campaign candidates. Sort of explains what they really are about. They are about getting elected as DICTATORS for a set term, to do as they please under the guise of free enterprise. And I’m sure you have just as many free enterprise actors in the USA.

    gillysrooms from Australia.

  • http://www.gillysrooms.blogspot.com Gilly

    That seat was in the Seat of MITCHAM in the State of Victoria d, Australia during 1992 after the Labour party had run our finances into the ground and the deficit was horrendous for those days. Our State Bank had gone broke for poor lending policies and other department had overspent. It was bad and the Kennett government had to increase taxes on all property owners to pay out those $billion deficits. It cost us all dearly for the largess of the previous Labor administration. Written history does change in the telling in history books, but it was bad.

  • http://Pat P Ann Harris

    I’m sorry, but I have no sympathy for Mr. Cain. If he knew six months ago that he would be subject to a “high tech lynching,” it was incumbent upon him to let his campaign know about the charges out there. As a working female during the 90′s, I remember when women were subjected to unwanted touching, sexual comments and advances from bosses who used the power to fire you. Mr. Cain fits this model.

    • DaveH

      I would report the incident to the top Company officers and if they don’t care about it, quit and find a decent Company to work for. If they follow you around and interfere with future job prospects (that happened to my sister) then you have solid grounds to sue their buns off.

      • Thinking About

        Why should the one voilated quit and get another job? The person making the moves should be fired and without severance pay. Just as in the case of rapes the victim gets put on trial and anything on their past can be presented and the guilty goes free to voilated again.

        • DaveH

          Because it’s their money, their company. If the top officers of the company don’t care, why would anybody want to work for a company like that?
          I realize that you Liberals want to litigate every little problem, but some people would rather move on and live life.

          • DaveH

            I had a female friend when I was younger who came upon her friend beating her legs and arms with a hammer. Why? Because her boyfriend had broken up with her, and for spite she was going to charge him with rape. Fortunately for him, my friend told her she would tell the truth to authorities if she did.
            Sexual Harassment is usually a very gray area, a gray area that the Lawyers love. It’s time for people to quit whining to Government for the cure to every little ill:
            http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=4735

  • Mark

    I feel so bad for Mr Cain after reading this article.

    RON PAUL 2012!!!!!

    • DaveH

      Ron Paul on MSNBC. Wow, even MSNBC is waking up!
      http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/11/04/ron-paul-on-morning-joe/

      • DaveH

        And for those who spotlight Ron’s age, I wish I could speak as clearly and coherently as Ron Paul and he’s 13 years older than me.
        We do have a younger man saying very similar things, but the MSM has successfully marginalized him (Gary Johnson).

  • Mark

    Ron Paul 2012

  • Barton L. Bedwell

    I would like to put in my two cents worth if I may. I am still for Herman Cain and this is why, I have been listening to him and what he has to say and I like what I hear. He isn’t just another “professional politician” that says one thing to one group and another thing to another group so as to get their support. He has come up with constructive ideas that might just get this country back on the right track and off this “socialist” agenda that the current administration thinks is what we want.
    I am glad that Herman has gotten his plan out there for people to see and decide if that should be the way that they would want to see our country go. I for one have seen how the “media” has all but buried other “conservative blacks” as if they were some kind of nut or worse yet someone who would stop their plans to change this great country of ours into a third world country. This is the reason that the attacks have come. I once was accused by a young woman that I had done something that was not good. The police officer took me aside from the friend that I had gone to the movies with and questioned me as to the accusation. I had told him the truth and my friend would no doubt had backed me up on it but was never given the chance to do so. I was told that I would have to leave or else be taken to jail and was told that I couldn’t even get my money back. As I see it people are more inclined to beleive a woman that can say anything and be beleived than a man that has never been in trouble and is found guilty because the charge was made. I hope that Herman Cain will just let this go and will continue to allow the American people decide as to who our next leader is. I am still for Herman Cain and I hope that the rest of my fellow Americans will do the same.

    • http://www.gillysrooms.blogspot.com Gilly

      Well said Barton L. Bedwell, I’m surprised no women have yet surfaced to say he fathered 20 children by 20 different women. That would put the seed of doubt into to the equation and knock him out of race altogether, such is the corruption in politics and women who are just so keen to lie to get to Hollywood or sell a media story…..Having said that, I still think President Obama should be given a second term and he will I’m predicting. His competitors are a mixed rabble of unproven credentials. Better the devil you know and not they one and his team of thousands you don’t know much about. May the best person and their win the Presidency. Gillysrooms from Australia.

    • DaveH

      Barton say that Herman Cain doesn’t “say one thing to one group and another thing to another group”?
      That’s funny, because here is Herman Cain saying one thing to one group and another thing to the SAME group (on the abortion issue):
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5zgEdfrfoQ
      Notice that he says in defense of Federal Government involvement in the Drug Wars “Do you want to just throw out the Constitution?”. Obviously, Herman Cain is NOT a Constitutional Scholar. Because, nowhere in the Constitution is the Federal Government given the power to decide what people put in their own bodies.
      And Listen carefully to his stance on abortion near the end of the video. What? How can anybody pin this guy down?

  • Julie

    I am reading these comments but it has still not changed my mind. Mr. Herman Cain to me and a lot of other people is what this country needs. A man who will stand up to this kind of senseless dribble. He is a leader among men, willing to stand up to the evil of the world. How many of us would go to the trouble of running for president knowing full well that you will be crucified. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Talk is cheap but actions are proof of the man he is and the leader he will be. The 9-9-9 plan is the way out of debt and will produce more jobs than you can imagine. It will lead to the Fair tax. I want drug dealers,pimps,prostitutes and illegal’s in this country to pay the same tax I do. By the way people working under the table and not paying tax will have to pay what you and I do. It’s about time. All the money hidden in banks overseas would come home too. Just think, April 15th would just be another spring day. Where are all the Americans who have the guts enough to stand up and vote for another leader like Ronald Reagan. Mr. Cain truly loves America, has enough money,and does not have to run but who truly feels the calling to run. Now there is a Patriot! How many of you would run for President if you were rich and did not have to do anything but sit on your butt and watch sports all day? What is that commandment? Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Are you not sinning by gossiping about him. Notice I use Mr. before Cain. I have observed since almost day one that no one refers to Obama as President Obama. I know from day one I will show respect for the office by saying proudly, President Cain.

    • DaveH

      For More of the Same, Vote for Cain!

  • Patrick Timmel

    Cain isn’t the victim of a high tech lynching like Clarence Thomas. Rather he is a womanizing bum who created victims by his untoward advances. Someone doesn’t buy off an accuser of these actions unless they are true. Fortunately for Cain, though, he wasn’t left out in the cold. He did manage to wrangle a threesome with the Koch brothers for whom he is their bought and paid for whore. His 9-9-9 plan (translation “mine, mine, mine”) would be a disaster for working class Americans and another unwarranted gift for the immoral 1%.

    • JeffH

      Patrick the Parrot…polly want a cacker? bbbaaarrraakkkk

      • DaveH

        I don’t understand your attack, Jeff. If it was his statement about the Koch Brothers, see this:
        http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2011/11/04/herman-cain-im-a-koch-brother-from-another-mother/

        • JeffH

          DaveH, thanks for the link and I hope you realize I’m not a Cain fan in the least. The “Polly” comment was based on the fact that Patrick had posted the same comments twice…but you’re right. It was hypocritical of me because I have done the same, and I should have checked out the accusation first.

          It was the comment calling Cain a “womanizing bum”. Ton’s of hearsay but nothing definative.

          • DaveH

            I wasn’t calling you a hypocrite, Jeff. But I do want us to avoid running off people on our side. At least I think he’s on our side, that’s why I thought maybe I was missing something and you could enlighten me.

          • JeffH

            DaveH, not to worry, I didn’t take it that way. I just figure if I’m going to call someone a hypocrit I better be able to admit it when I am. If memory serves me, Patrick has made liberal like comments before.(not to be confused with patrick H.T. paine)

  • paddyo

    I UNDERSTAND HERMAN CAIN TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS BY GIVING THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT: “AT THE TIME OF THIS INCIDENT I WAS A DEMOCRAT AND THOUGHT I SHOULD ACT LIKE ONE”

  • Lost in Paradise

    I think today, nearly anything can be misconstrued as sexual harassment by a good word manipulator. That would be an attorney.

  • Chris

    I was wondering when the dirt would start to come out,

  • hoser

    If you want higher taxes, new taxes, sanctuary cities, bigger bank/corporate bail-outs, then by all means vote for HC. This guy is a wolf in sheeps clothing. Obama made a boat-load of promises too so he would get elected. HC is ex-Central Bank! That alone should send up red warning flags.

    Ron Paul is what this country needs now. Period. Anybody else will be same-O same-O…..

    • DaveH

      But it isn’t going to happen unless the good people in this country shed their propaganda blinders and understand the wisdom of what Ron Paul promotes. We have become a victim of what our wise founder Thomas Jefferson warned us about over 200 years ago — The Natural Progress of Things is for Government to Grow and Liberty to Yield.
      We now have the Welfare Statists pulling us one way, and the Military Statists pulling us another way, and the Mercantilist Politicians feathering their own and their politically connected Cronies’ nests at the rest of our expense. People need to wake up to the reality that the Politicians are taking advantage of the rest of us. We need to wake up to the reality that Ron Paul is offering the solutions to our problems, even as many of us have been too dumbed-down by Propaganda to know that.

  • DaveH

    Something to think about for those who aren’t afraid to think outside the box:
    http://mises.org/daily/5646/Law-without-the-State

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    I’ve been enjoying your Personal Liberty News Desk for awhile, but am disappointed that you’re not more supportive of Herman Cain. Think about it. I don’t hear the leftwing democraps or their lame stream media allies attacking RINOs like Romney or Huntsman much. The latter appears unlikely to win the nomination, but Romney has a good chance. It seems the left is not too worried about Romney – who’s not much different than BHO, and a RINO who makes John McCain look like a conservative. The left knows Romney would only be minor setback if elected POTUS, and only win one term. In fact, Romney may be even better for the leftists. The left knows how a large % of stupid voters (too ignorant to realize that, despite our frustration with RINOs and moderate GOP wimps, putting democraps back in power can only make bad situations worse!!) will react to the RINO Romney’s (failed) presidency – by putting the democraps back in power in 2014 and 2016, as they did in 2006 and 2008, respectively.

    On the other hand, Herman Cain could be another Ronald Reagan-like success. And if he picks the right running mate for VP, that VP could become POTUS in 2020 and also be successful. Thus it’s no wonder the left fears Herman Cain, as well as Michelle Bachmann, and (if she runs in the future) Sarah Palin. It’s obvious that firm solid conservatives could be the final nail in the coffin of the liberals’ statist agenda. ….. Therefore, when the left fears and attacks a candidate on our side, that’s the candidate you need to strongly defend and support!!

    • DaveH

      OMG, Earl. Don’t even compare Herman Cain with Ronald Reagan. They are totally different animals. Herman is giving lip-service to smaller government, but that is all. If you study up on his various interviews you will see that the Real Herman Cain is a Big Government type of guy.

  • DaveH

    It’s been 30 years now since I’ve tried to get people to realize that most of the Republican Politicians love Big Government as much as most Democrat Politicians. But many of you people just keep on voting for the same kind of Politicians over and over, hoping that this time the results will be different. THEY WON’T BE. GIVE IT UP!
    I would think the fact that over half of the Tea Party candidates caved to the Debt Ceiling Increase would wake you people up. Obviously, I would think wrong.

    • http://deleted Claire

      DaveH– I am a person that certainly agrees with your comment. Especially about the Repubs enjoying big government the same as the Dems. When all is said and done, these parties are one and the same. I have posted before that it will not make any difference which party acquires the most seats in 2012 and who the POTUS will be. Nothing will change.

  • Robert Hauser

    Could not have happened to a more richly deserving individual….the guy was a damned fedster anyway.

  • LowlyWise

    There is a lot of “he said, she said” going on with this, and it is a smokescreen — spontaneous or engineered — to make a martyr out of this clueless candidate. The 9-9-9 plan is the most harebrained proposal yet. It would make vassals out of what’s left of the middle class. 27% of, say, $20k would be $54,00 leaving $14,600 to live on; add a zero all to those incomes and the one left with $146,000 can still live very comfortably. So, you start making exemptions and the $20,000 gets tossed a bone and the $200,000 guy with the collusion of the self-interested lawmakers probably won’t have to pay a thing. There is not even sanity to this proposal, let alone justice and equity, and fortunately most Americans would see through this and reject this joker out of hand. Most women and decent men would be turned off by this leering old goat before even bothering to analyze some of his un-thought-through ideas. Oh — I forgot: add another 6 to 9 per cent for sales taxes, and who comes out better off? Makes me think of Alice in Wonderland, where the birds run the caucus race, which nobody wins and nobody loses, so everyone must have a prize. But the only thing available for prizes is Alice’s box of comfits, which the large birds complain are too small to taste and the small birds complain that they can’t swallow them. Heck, I don’t even know why I bother addressing this issue, as Hermain Cain is no more worthy of serious attention than is Rick Perry or Michele Bachmann or any of the other troglodytes the Republicans have dug up. That said, like millions of others whose range of support in 2008 for Obama went from holding their nose and voting for the lesser of two evils to fanatical cult-worship, I am profoundly disappointed in our President. But it leaves me in the same dilemma as four years ago, and right now I don’t know which is the lesser evil.

    Clarence Thomas was not pilloried, crucified, or lynched. He deserves to be drummed off the high court for his corruption. I’d like to say also the crassness of his decisions.

  • jopa

    After it’s all said and done and all the votes are counted, the only one that has a true vote is the one with the biggest moneybag for the candidates re election.Our representatives love there jobs with all the perks and the only way they can keep it is with campaign contributions from the likes of Koch,Soros,big oil and Wall Street.As the old saying goes “Money talks BS walks”.Time to leave this site for awhile and join up with the OWS movement. If you think the BS here is really helping anything, your thoughts probably wouldn’t be much of a contributing factor for any change that the OWS is seeking.

  • http://google mike b.

    I have been a republican for over 30 years. If mitt romney is the gop nominee in 2012 i will become a independent. I will not vote unless there is a 3rd party candidate in 2012.

  • http://google mike b.

    Jopa, when you join the OWS movement make sure you dont take your wife our kids because they might be raped. Also take a lot of extra clothes because they will urinate and throw feces on the ones youre wearing. It may help if you take extra cash with you to help when you get robbed. Last but not least take a copy of the Koran so you can learn how to become a good little mooslem terriots and learn shiria law. You and the OWS movement thugs have such a promising future ahead of you.

  • http://google mike b.

    All these tramps accusing cain would be called what they really are if it was Hussein Obama they were accusing. “RACISTS’

  • jopa

    mike b; Where do you come up with such nonsense?Are you a Faux news watcher?So sad that the OWS folks are doing the work for your benefit and you are too ignorant to realize this.So few trying to do so much for so many and what kind of thanks do they get for their effort!!

  • Angel Wannabe
  • Steve

    Cain is a patsy for the power elite. Read his Wikipedia bio. The Pillsbury family was instrumental in the creation of the federal reserve in the late 1800s and early 1900s. He worked for Pillsbury. His “success” came about while at pillsbury and because of pillsbury. After ‘retiring’, he went to work for the Federal Reserve. Does nobody see the connection? He said in an interview on a major network that when China gets a nuclear weapon, then he’ll worry about China. China tested nuclear weapons in the 1960s. The guy has no clue. Ron Paul has forgotten more about economics and foreign policy than ALL other candidates combined.

  • jopa

    AngelWanna;From what I see this lady is truly believable and is willing to even hold a press conference with the others that were attacked by Cain.Even without these allegations Cain wouldn’t have a chance for the presidency, however if he was involved in criminal conduct he should be prosecuted.No one should be above the law.

  • James T.

    Ron Paul Would not be a very good President.Although I like,and respect him.Iwill not vote for him.This is my Opinion,and the USA is still a free country,I don’t call anyone names ,And i don’t respect any one thAt does,I hear enough of that crap from the peop[le who are running for office.If you don’t like my opinions ,That’s okay,because I may not like some of yours.I have read on the inter net some where that Ron Paul might consider running on a third party ticket,.If he is thinking about that,than he must think he’s not goping to make it on the rep.party ticket.No one in modern times have won on a third party ticket,that i know of.

  • James T.

    P.s.On topic:Cain will not be getting my vote.He is not the kind of guy I could trust in the White house.

  • James T.

    I think i”ll vote for” Curly Joe”instead.

  • James T.

    Ps or maybe larry??????????????????OR how about Moe? he’s always good for a face slap.and hey,he’s a name caller too!!!!!!!!!!NO voter Cain,No vote ron Paul.No vote Perry No vote Romney.Guess who that leaves Boys And girls?Find out next week : same Bat time Same Bat channel!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Pat

    Ordinarily Cain’s honorable attempt at recovery of his reputation might be accepted in the unique manner in which it was gifted to the American public, and the political pundits, especially from the sentiments as offered within the style of a “learning” America, as he saw it.

    The media hasn’t felt bad, and hasn’t apologized, perhaps having recognized that from the onset, Cain’s was a disingenuous run for the White House that ignored the need for more than a math degree to qualify as a President worthy of the post. Other candidates might learn from the experience.

    The White House has never presented itself as a house of ill repute so that anyone could run, and win, as if the game was King of the Mountain, a survivor game through which the strongest, bravest, richest, and dirtiest of candidates can win. Is that what America wants for a President?

    Even Nixon had enough respect for the office to resign in disgrace when he and his integrity became the credibility standard that couldn’t be saved. Cain may have experienced a similar process without being President but contemplating to be one. Has the Presidency stooped so low today as to be anyone’s grab for the brass ring without contemplating the impact upon the American people, or the effect of installing a President unworthy of the office?

    Have Congressional and Senate standards been reduced to that casino political game where more are harmed than helped, but justified by the electoral vote, however it is won/conferred/bought?

    Cain was right: America deserves more….and that is why the media is not apologetic in his case.

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