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Help Defend This Taxpayer’s Hero

March 12, 2010 by  

Help Defend This Taxpayer’s Hero

I had planned to write this week about the irritating idiocy most of us will encounter this weekend: The biannual changing of the clocks, necessitated by Daylight Savings Time.

Who the heck first proposed that we “spring forward” anyway? I think it’s a terrible idea. Among many other things wrong with it, we end up sending our children off to school when it’s pitch black outside. That can’t be as safe as waiting until the sun is out, can it?

But that rant will have to wait. Because something happened last week that got me so mad that—as my mother used to say—I could chew nails and spit bullets.

I’m talking about the utterly unfair and vicious attacks the Democrats in Congress, supported by their allies in the liberal media, launched against former baseball great Jim Bunning. In case you missed it, here’s what happened.

As you know, whenever some sensitive soul discovers someone suffering in America, someone in Congress will promise to solve the problem. And an amazing number of times (something like 999 times out of 1,000), the solution requires throwing taxpayer money at it.

That’s what happened two weeks ago, when a bunch of Democrats learned that many of their constituents had run out of unemployment benefits. In most states, such payouts last a maximum of 18 months. When the legislation was originally approved, the thinking was that a year and half would be plenty of time for someone to find a job. Assuming, that is, that he or she looked hard enough and wasn’t too fussy about the perks and pay he or she would receive.

But as you know, this isn’t just any recession we’re in. At the very least, it’s the Great Recession. Many commentators are even more pessimistic; I know several who say we’ve entered what they call the Greater Depression.

However you describe it, the sad fact is that millions of jobs have disappeared in this country. And a whole lot of them aren’t coming back any time soon. Doesn’t matter if you built cars in Detroit for decades, and your father did before you and your grandfather before that. Color that baby gone, my friend.

So jobs are hard to find, unemployment benefits are running out and some voters are getting worried. Why, this sounds like a job for Congressman! And before you could say “roll call,” the Democrats had drafted legislation to extend unemployment benefits by six more months, at a cost of $10 billion.

There was just one teensy little problem. According to legislation the Democrats themselves had passed one month earlier, the legislation was illegal. Remember when the House and Senate, with the glowing approval of the White House, passed something called “pay as you go” (pay-go)? The measure said simply that Congress could not approve any new Federal spending unless it found the money to fund it from somewhere else in the budget.

Since this year’s budget comes to more than $3.5 trillion, and will add at least another $1.4 trillion to the federal deficit, that requirement didn’t seem terribly unreasonable. In no time at all, pay-go became the law of the land.

Ah, but then up came the subject of all those poor unemployed voters. Surely they deserve a little extra consideration, don’t they? We can make an exception for them, can’t we?

So Harry Reid (D-Nev.), the Majority Leader of the U.S. Senate, asked for “unanimous consent” to approve a bill giving them another $10 billion in benefits. Most of the time, when asked for unanimous consent, everyone in the Senate meekly says “sure thing, Harry.”

In this case, the dirty deed would be done without the necessity of a potentially embarrassing recorded vote. Say what you will, our legislators aren’t stupid; they know they’ll face reelection some day. Why give a potential opponent the opportunity to ask, “Why did you, Mr. Incumbent, vote to violate the very pay-go law you passed a month earlier?”

Our august leaders clearly expected the measure to be quickly and quietly approved. After all, the skids had been properly greased. The leadership of the so-called opposition had promised to vote “aye.” What could go wrong?

But the problem with unanimous consent is that it has to be unanimous. And this time, one guy said “I object.” Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.) refused to go along to get along. And that was all it took to throw a monkey wrench in the works.

“Obstructionism,” screamed Reid. “An outrage,” cried Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va). “Unfair,” said Dick Durbin (D-Ill.). “Political games,” said the White House. Even his fellow Republicans joined the pile-on. “[His] views do not represent a majority of the Republican caucus,” said Susan Collins—a RINO from Maine who votes way to the left of Bunning.

The TV networks were on the story like crows on road kill. The three major networks all decided (independently, of course) to broadcast the Senate proceedings live as Bunning blocked the bill for a second time. ABC News even tried one of their famous “ambush” interviews as the senator was getting into a private elevator in the Capitol.

But here’s what no one in the mainstream media bothered to tell their gullible audience. Reid could have gotten the money any time he wanted, just by calling for a recorded vote. Bingo, the measure could have been passed in a minute.

But Reid was having more fun—and scoring more points, he thought—by exposing Republican obstructionism.

Rather than bow to the pressure, Bunning suggested a compromise: Let’s fund this thing by taking $10 billion from all of that unspent “stimulus” money. Reid wouldn’t even allow a vote to be taken on Bunning’s amendment.

USA Today offered Bunning the opportunity to tell his side. In “Why I took a stand,” which ran on March 4, the Senator said: “For too long, both Republicans and Democrats have treated the taxpayers’ money as a slush fund that does not ever end. At some point, the madness has to stop….We are on the verge of a tipping point where America’s debt will bring down our economy.”

And then he said, “If the Senate cannot find $10 billion to pay for a measure we all support, we will never pay for anything.”

Long before he entered politics, Bunning had an all-star career as a Major League Baseball (MLB) pitcher—a career that includes a perfect game in 1964. When he retired after 17 seasons he had the second-highest total of career strikeouts in MLB history. He was inducted into the MLB Hall of Fame in 1996.

After his retirement he became a state senator in his beloved Kentucky. He was elected to House in 1986 and the U.S. Senate in 1998. He announced last year that, after 24 years in Washington, he was retiring from politics. At 79 years old, he’s earned the right to sit on his front porch for a while.

Bunning may not have been the fiercest fighter we had on the Hill. But he sure did the right thing this time. We can’t let the left pillory him for it.

If you agree, why not tell him so? Call his office at (202)-224-4343 or click here to send him an email.

Thanks, Jim. I hope your profile in courage will inspire some of your colleagues to step up to the plate, too. No matter how many bean-balls the left throws at them.

Until next Friday, keep some powder dry.

—Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • TIME

    Its sad when a political figure dose the right thing, and then smeared in the press and public’s opinion for his actions, even though he is folloing the very LAW set in place by the person’s who started this malicious behavior.

    Folks many very hard decisions are going to have to be made very soon.
    Let alone the sacrifice of each person in this country if we are ever to get the train back on the tracks. I mean what ever you now think is a sacrifice make that x 10; and thats a start.

    That means pay cuts, a lower standard of living for a VERY LONG period of time, and thats in order to just rebuild our basic country.

    To rebuild we will need to 100% cut out all UNIONS, reduce useless Government jobs by 75% if not more.

    We need to bring to the table “incentives for industry” to want to be here in the US, after all we don’t have any industry anylonger its all been out sourced, and whos fault is that?

    Its the “Americans peoples fault” for allowing the politicians to get away with this behavior for well over 100 years.
    Yes I know its been far worse over the last 35 years, but the roadway had to be set up to get to this point, thats logic.

    In Life there is no free lunch, there is no free ride, there is NOTHING in life worth anything if you don’t work for it.

    We have to stop dead in its tracts all of the programs that have brought us to this point in time. If one is faced with no food, no shelter, one acts in a more positive way to get some $$$$$ in.
    As in find a job even if its picking up garbage on the road side.

    We have to take the “GRAY AREA” out of the LAW, and make the laws very clear BLACK & WHITE, right and wrong.

    The double standards the DC Beltway uses need to be taken off the table.
    Then when and if they break these well defined standards they need to be treated the same way one would treat any “CRIMINAL GUILTY” of such a Crime.

    White collar crime is not just for guys who make millions as your made to think.
    White collar crime is committed daily in our Congress the Senate, let alone the “WHITE HOUSE” and its staff, let alone these CZARS; OMG!

    Now ask your selfs this simple question why should any Congress or Senate person be granted a “LIFE TIME of FULL Pay” Plus inflation incress, after just one term in office?

    Why should these person’s have a Health Care package you can’t even hope to acquire?

    Why? Should they have the ability to not pay TAX’S your required to pay?

    Why should they be given homes to live in on TAX PAYERS moneys?

    We all rant about the Wellfair state of what we all have the right to, but we are not lookig at the real “Roaches;” our {Politicans} who are 100,000 X’s worse.

    WAKE UP AMERICA.

    • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

      You said regarding Bunning, “dose the right thing, and then smeared in the press and public’s opinion for his actions, even though he is folloing the very LAW set in place by the person’s who started this malicious behavior.

      Better press “malicious behavior” than being assassinated by corporate international socialist bent on war in Iraq. The very law, “Pay-Go”, was superceded by Repugs and Dims who voted to fund the Iraq war and the budget shortfalls after the Bush II 2003 tax cuts.

      You said, “To rebuild we will need to 100% cut out all UNIONS, reduce useless Government jobs by 75% if not more.” Why? Are you opposed to liveable wages and prefer pumping more profits into the hands of the corporate international socialists to give more money to CEO’s who can organize lobbying efforst and PAC monies to buy out our congress? And, if no livable wages, who can afford to buy goods and services in our economy, pay taxes and have any retirement pension plan to buy stocks to drive up the WallStreet Dow Jones, etc, prices?

      You have said, “We need to bring to the table “incentives for industry” to want to be here in the US, after all we don’t have any industry anylonger its all been out sourced, and whos fault is that?”

      Why don’t we cut corporate international socialist subsidies for shipping jobs out of the country to slave labor markets free of environmental controls and then shipping those goods back to this country to be “dumped” a noncompetative prices further destroying american jobs paying livable wages to buy food, shelter, gas, education, retirement and taxes?

      You said, “Its the “Americans peoples fault” How? Because they were fooled by corporate international socialist rants on talk radio that no longer has to carry opposing opinions that could have educated the voters to make more intelligent voting choices? And let’s not forget the defrauding carried out by not requiring all candidates for office to take government subsidies if they get at least a minimum percentage of votes in primary elections or a previous general election with any other contribution considered a bribe with penalties for that.

      You said, “If one is faced with no food, no shelter, one acts in a more positive way to get some $$$$$ in.”

      What about the frail elderly and disabled, push them off the cliff? What of the children, hold them to the same expectation? What if this requirement to work fails with no work, do we build more prisons run by corporate international socialist for slave labor when these people turn to crime to survive and get caught?

      You say, “We have to take the “GRAY AREA” out of the LAW, and make the laws very clear BLACK & WHITE, right and wrong. ”

      Is that corporate international socialism where the “BLACK & WHITE” of “very clear” laws get decided by judges incentivized by corporate international socialists to decide every, every matter by making any grey area decided whether or not that decision applies to “right and wrong”.

      I agree our politicians are roaches, though. I prefer to call them “lizards”.

  • michael

    I take your poll with a grain of salt as I see the majority that reads .your feeds are ones who got beat at the polls of voting McCain, This sounds like a one slanted version of the news reported and you say MSNBC is slanted, I think, no I know you are slanted horribly to the right!! I feel we are in need of new parties in office not republicans or democrats. We need a party for the people! I suggest creating a new party and call it American United Party

    • American Citizen

      Get your head out of the sand. Go take economics 101.

      • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

        Pull your head out of the “voodoo economics” toilet.

        Then towel off, quit listening to corporate internationalist socialist radio and get some decent economic education by Keynes, Galbrait and even consider Allen Greenspan’s rejection of Friedman “voodoo economics” when he testified about his errors in judgment during his Fed chairmanship duing the Bush, Clinton and Bush II years.

    • TIME

      Michael,
      Perhap you can post something that makes some sense as what you posted is at best the ranting of someone who is not quite getting to the top floor.
      But thanks for your thoughts.

  • trut

    I can’t recall Bunning not seeing an overbloated defence bill he didn’t vote for with a shit eating smile on his face.
    BUNNING SCHILL for the MILITARY COMPLEX.

    • Joe H.

      trut,
      tell you what, we’ll send YOU into combat without the proper equipment and expect you to fight like the guys that were first sent to Iraq were because of Klintoons defense budget cuts. Then when you are wounded, we’ll send you to a sub-standard medical facility for treatment like they were!!!

      • DaveH

        Personally, Joe, I think we should withdraw our troops and put them to work in this country watching our borders or other productive things. But as long as we are putting them in harm’s way, I agree that we should give them every protection possible.

        • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

          Spoken like a gentleman and intelligent person.

          Most of the people who post here are a quaint and rustic in their economic views. Their purile rhetoric is led by corporate international socialist radio ranting preaching the politics that benefit only the ruling elite holed up in their offices atop giant corporate international socialist office towers. Their only driving motivation is greed to keep the economic churning going by exploiting every level of our country. If it collapses, they will just move out to another country like Haliburton did to Saudia Arabia.

          Therefore, the leaders and ranters and head leutenants, most of them politicians and lobbyists, etc, in D.C. working for the corporate international socialists are the enemy. And it is they who have to be overthown to restore true free enterprise for America.

  • http://beliefnet.com/debrincon Debra Rincon Lopez

    The more good people like him the better the country will be. When there’s people who hate another race of people. They have no business living here in the United States of America. That’s what this country was founded on and it’s not gonna change for anyone. NOT even Cops or the IMMIGRATION or the State of ARizona either??

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Why would there be any objection to taking the money out of the stimulus package that still had money available to it? What is it being saved for? And how does it work that Congress passes a bill, makes it into law and then a month later goes against that bill? How are they held accountable for passing laws, only to break them? What is happening to our country?????

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    I Agree: Thank you, Senator Bunning!!!

  • http://EarnFreeSilver.com/SilverEagleEconomy.html EarnFreeSilver

    How can these idiots hold criticism of Bunning. He is a patriot as far as I am concerned for standing up to the idiots that are devaluing our dollar, our economy, our property rights, and ultimately our freedoms.

  • Warrior

    Because those funds are already earmarked for others to receive. Can’t go back on a promise now can we? Oh, only as it pertains to Play and Go!

  • home boy

    your country is going down bubba. wake up and smell the roses or in this case corruption.

  • http://Don'thaveone Sally

    What I don’t understand is why they had to find money for the extension as 940′s were just sent in for the entire year in January that funds Federal Unemployment. What happened to all of that money. Unless you are involved in your own business or work as a payroll clerk for a company, you would not be aware of this. I did send a thank you note to Mr. Brunning however, because he was exactly correct on what he did. Too bad he is retiring. If we had more Senators like him, we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in.

  • EltonJ

    I think I want to fire my Congressmen.

  • jomama

    I’m very happy to hear that one of those senators in Washington DC has a level head on his shoulders. Thank you, Senator Bunning!! Also -I was wondering about our newest elected Senator Scott Brown. After he was elected for the state of MA – the ONLY thing I’ve heard about him is he’s writing a book – NOT making orhelp making any laws. Why??

  • laura

    First off “Chip your a great writer” love your articles. My only issue is this,all the people who can’t find jobs. It’s no longer a matter of when a person will go back to work, but if there’s going to be a job for him or her.I hate the fact that America has become a Socialist society and do not wish it to continue but I ALSO worry about the people in despair. My own sister, who lives in Patterson CA. has been looking for a job for 2 years and if not for unemployment she would have lost her home.I’m NOT saying that unemployment is the answer or a solution but what are people supposed to do. And again I say where were all those “good Politicians” when this country needed them and they promised us they’d straighten things out. I trust very few of them.

    The only thing that I feel will save OUR country is to bring the jobs back to OUR country and not allow big corporations to out source work to third world countries where they pay the people pennies on the dollar so they can get richer and fatter. And come the next election(s) vote out every single one of those dirty rotten b******* and make a statement like never before.And still even this is probably a pipe dream but the American Dream is not dead yet (I HOPE).

  • Virgil, NC

    I hope the American people, who do not desire to see our nation morphed into the United “Socialist” States of America, will rise up
    in the coming elections and replace the current Congress with some everyday, hardworking, honest people, who will, in turn, establish term limits and abolish “lifetime politicians” from our government.
    By the way, our Constitution makes no allowances for lifetime appointments to the Supreme Court either, or did I miss it?

  • Dee Hughes

    I give a big “Hal le leu ia” to Mr. Jim Bunning of Kentucky!

    Too bad he is retiring, we need people like him to stand up for “we Americans.”

    I don’t know his age, but, I sure wish he would run fo “PRESIDENT!”

    We need more Republicans who have his “backbone,” in our Congress.

    Dee Hughes
    Indian Lake, Ohioo

  • Bob

    In a way this is a tough one. Unemployment insurance is feeding people. The Jobs just are not there. But in the mean time the things crushing the job market are still in place. As long as the over regulation, ILLEGAL Immigration, crushing property taxes (in my town the Police Chief just wrote himself a $188,000. sick pay bonus) things aren’t going to change. I wouldn’t even think of opening a buisness, you gotta be crazy.

  • Hello?

    Thank you Mr. Bunning, I am refreshed that there is at least one in Washington that has some integrity. The whole problem in this country is dishonesty, lack of respect for anyone but one’s self and agenda , corrupt people in our government. By our own corruptness and greed, we have lit the fire uinder the very pot that we are sitting in. When we hurt someone else for our own gain, usually at some time it will come back and bite us in the butt and thus we have the mess that we are in right now. Guess it is catch up time. Integrity anyone!

  • Barney Murrell

    Most of the people on this site really need to study social and economic history, because then they would know that from the 1700s to the 1930s, United States government primarily served the interests of American aristocracy at the expense of men, women, and children of working class Americans who were underpaid, underfed, and overworked. Thus, the Constitution, as originally implemented in law, applied only to white Anglo-Saxons who were either born to wealth or were smart and ruthless enough to obtain it. And throughout the generations, elite conservative Americans of various political parties continued to amass great fortunes while exploiting lower economic classes.

    Those who support the Constitution as originally implemented, and a “small government conservative agenda,” should take note of what it really means. Wealthy conservatives use control of government to redistribute income upwards while performing the remarkable feat of convincing many naive citizens that “government is the problem” (Reagan, 1-20-1981), and that those programs beneficial to middle-class Americans are “socialist,” or worse.

    And “tickle up” economics has worked quite well. See “Wealth Disparities in U.S. Approaching 1920s Levels,” http://seekingalpha.com/article/189649-wealth-disparities-in-u-s-approaching-1920s-levels?source=article_sb_popular. And IRS data, “The 400 Individual Income Tax Returns Reporting Highest AGI… 1992-2007,” http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/07intop400.pdf.”

  • ONTIME

    Hairy Reed and his “Give’em the loot” type thinking wants to treat everyone as if they are entitled to government benefits whether they work for the government or private sector. He has no idea that that his kind have literally tapped the pot dry and the private sector cannot produce enough income for the government to live on but Hairy acts like the money is still there and the idea that he has to live by a budget is not in his playbook. Hairy is just another irresponsible elected jerk who regains office by making false promises and pandering to the suckers in this country.

    Bunning simply pointed out that the states have a responsibility to take care of their own and that the government had a deal to not put out anymore loot unless they could find a way to realistically come up with the cash. Hairy just did the usual and shot off that big mouth of his, now we have to bail his fat, elite butt out again.

  • Tom Teacher

    Way to go big Jim!! I’m with EltonJ…we need to start over with a clean slate in congress…there are far to few who actually have the public good in their minds or hearts…it’s so much easier to play the DC Shuffle and pass the problems off to another person or part. While I’m on my soapbox let’s let them have social security benefits for a retirement…not the insane barrel of gold they get for a lousy 4 year committment!

  • knuckleballer

    Very nice explanation, Chip. Why can’t the mainstream media report are clearly as this? Are they that incompetent? Do they not understand how voting is done? Can’t they decipher the simple meaning of simple legislation like “pay-go”? Are they not able to see the hypocrisy in the socialist Senators’ criticisms?
    Of course, these are all rhetorical questions! Any careful observer can see how shameless the self-proclaimed “Libersls” are in their constant attacks on anything good and Constitutional.

    I really appreciate your article. I am printing a copy for my “debate file” that I use when discussing current topics with people who have been fooled by the mainstream media. No honest person can validly argue against it. Thank you, Chip.

  • knuckleballer

    Hello from Taxachusetts. I hope you don’t expect too much from new Senator Brown. He is a 50% constitutionalist, AT BEST. The mainstream media nationally have given Conservatives the idea that he is a rock-solid Conservative. HE IS NOT! He voted against reducing the state sales tax. He voted against reducing or eliminating the state income tax. He voted to raise the state gasoline tax. He voted to override a local property tax limit in his hometown. He deceived the pro-lifers into supporting him even though he is only 50% pro-life, AT BEST! He will oppose Obamacare (at least in its current form), but he is a supporter of Romneycare. At least he is not anti-gun, but he might be pro-vaccination. He will probably vote to ratify the “Law of the Sea” U.N. Treaty. And if you think his 50% rating (on a scale of Patrick Kennedy =0% to Ron Paul =100%) is okay, just wait until “DC disease” sets in fully with him, and watch his rating drop. The reason why he won the special election on Jan. 19 is that we (the REAL Conservatives/Libertarians/Constitutionalists in Taxachusetts) put a third candidate named Joe Kennedy (one of US, not the former socialist Congressman) on the Ballot, and the socialist Democrat Martha Coakley got worried about nitwits in her own party voting for him instead of her, so the increased campaign exposure finally woke up the national Republicans and they poured big money into the race in the last three weeks, essentially making it into a referendum on Obamacare. That is what the people voted against. Scott Brown just happened to be in the right place at the right time. In 2012 we will try to replace him with a real Conservative/Libertarian/Constitutionalist.

  • Jerry

    Scott Brown is a Pregressive Republican, what does this mean? it means anyone who supports the idea that we need changes to this Government, by bringing in the ideas of a government system that controls all countries. That’s right the one World Governmet. Some of you Repulicans don’t understand that what has happened is there are secret combinations in both the Democrat and Republican Parties, They may claim to believe in God, or they may say they believe in smaller Government, or may even say they are a Conservative, but if they are a Progressive it’s just a new name for a Socialist or a Communist, and it seems we have plenty in the Senate- about 58, and not sure how many in the House of Representatives. George Bush Jr. George Bush Sr., Bill and Hilary Clinton, and Obama all support one Dictator to rule the World, so although they are in different paries, they support the same things. all these Stimulous bills are intentional to destroy our Government and force us all into this new system of one Dictator to rule the world. Just Listen to Obama he says it often, that he plans to make changes to our government that further suports the one world Government. If You Believe in the Constitution of the United States we need to get rid of all Progressives, some won’t tell you they are until elected, just like Scott Brown, and you can be sure Scott Brown will not help us. What was the 1st vote Scott Brown voted for, Obamas Jobs Bill, which is just a Disguise for hiding laws inside these bills Obama Signs into law, that gives this Socialist movement more power. Time to awake and watch these videos

    FALL OF THE REPUBLIC (part two)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU

    OBAMA DECEPTION (part one)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    “Level head”?

    “Our newly elected Senator”? Are you talking from the point of view of the American taxpayers, or as a corporate international socialist?

    Brown is probably writing a book to show his moral high ground before he gets bought and corrupted by the corporate international socialists.

  • Tazio2013

    knuckleballer; an intelligent, insightful and knowledgeable response to one of chipsters typical right-wing-wacko rants; expect to see him on fox noise along with his fellow travelers; beck, palin, limbaugh and the other guys. bunning is just playing his small walk-on part in republikrat kabuki theater. if and when republicans take over the house in november, nothing will change; the NWO/GPE 1%ers will still control the 99% rest of US.

  • Louise

    Have you ever been laid off? Then you would know how important unemployment checks are when you need to buy gas to go for an interview.
    We need unions!The union have bargined for fair wages for their members. They have worked hard to get the minimum wage law.
    God bless American and all the WHINNERS who complain!

  • Danny Jeffrey

    Senator Bunning,
    This is my second comment today…Think of it as an addendum.

    We had an Actor/President. It worked out pretty good.
    How about a Pitcher/president?
    Danny

  • TIME

    Louise,

    I have never been laid off, do you know why that is?

    I have never worked for anyone but myself, Thus I have NO possible way of ever getting any money from anyone, that includes the Government.

    In plain words Louise, I have no safety net, I have had to do what it takes to make a living. If I don’t make money I don’t eat, and just for the record Louise, I went many months when I was in my 20′s with enough food for 3 days of the week, that was my choice. I invested my money rather than eat it, smoke it or drink it, or buy cloths, shoes.

    I have no pension plan from a Government job or anyone else,
    “other that the art collection I have built over the last 40 years,” of what is now valued higher than any pension plan I could have ever had x’s 10000000 and you know what Louise when I sell it off I will still have to pay “Capital gains TAX” on it.
    Not a 10% fee for taking MY money out of an IRA, of what by the way I also set up my own IRA, that means I had to take a % per month every month and set it aside.

    If I don’t make money I don’t spend, money. Thats the way it should be for everyone.

    I am far from a whinner, I have produced from day one out of college, of what I got my MS when I was 20, and I have worked every day since then.
    I have also supported my child even though I was not in their life I paid out $1000.00 per month for 18 years and never missed a payment.

    So don’t talk to me about being a whinner, nor for not being pro union of what the UNIONS have all but destroyed this country along with its MARXIST ideas.
    By the way I did pay “UNION dues” when I was playing in a Band, with zero benifits for all the money I paid in.

    But thanks for your insight.

  • JeffH

    Louise, I really wish you would join the real world and not the fantasy world you continually make comments about. Yeah, unemployment is rampant, but it is the governments fault and all of those that have allowed and depend on the government to become their “pay window”. Unless the people tighten their belts and resist the need of government dependence, we’ll never climb out of this hole. It is up to the people to institute change because government is no longer capable of making any rational decisions. This government wants every American (and illegals) to depend on them. That is how the population is controlled by the government. 2 + 2= 4. Try to get it!

  • Jerry

    Louise,

    My wife is unemployed, I currently have a job, but just part time. If this government wants to extend the Unemployment Benefits they could easily do so, just by using some of this Stimulous Money. Senator Bunning has said no to more spending. I support his decision, because Where does the spending end. The real world is coming shortly because all of this excessive spending we will have Hiper inflation, all your pension monies will be devalued, and a worse economy will cause businesses to lay-off more people and and more will be out of work. This is all intentional, that is the plan of Socialism. when the masses are poor they have no means to fight back the system that supports one Dictator to control the world. This Country is headed the same direction that Germany experienced under Adolf Hitler, only difference Obama talks nicer, for now at least, even if they are all lies. Just listen to his speeches, a civilian Military- sounds like Germany’s Nazi Youth Camps who spied on the people. We already have the national Guard why do we need a Civilian Military?? and Obama wants changes to government that avoid the Constitution of the United States, he supports the one World Government, and if your a Repubican well we had George Bush Jr. and George Bush Sr. who all support the one world Government. George Bush Jr. knew that if he created the Stimulous package at the end of his presidency we would vote for the Socialist Obama. It worked. Obama’s job is to bring in Socialism by 2012. John McCain he also supports the One world Government. This Government is corrupt with leaders who are robbing us blind. Enough Spending. Get rid of all Progressives- Just another name for Socialist or Communist.

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Louise,

    I was laid off years ago and as soon as I was offered a job that was one I felt was morally acceptable, I took it….immediately, primarily because I know the value of finding a job when you already have a job. The problem these days…is many (if not most,and including some of my relatives) who are drawing unemployment checks….would rather simply wait out the job acceptance until the very moment their unemployment runs out….then there’s some politician that will surely come to their rescue (again).

    As far as your comment about unions, I believe they had their place in the beginning; however, unions are now as corrupt and greedy as the companies and agencies they claim to protect their members from. Come to think of it….politicians and union leaders….hmmmm….could they be clones of each other?????????

    Fed Up Gal

  • Palin12

    Let me tell you about a union I was forced to join when I was in california. I was due for an automatic yearly pay increase and when it didn’t come I filed a grievence with my union. The union boss, who makes over $200,000 a year, told me this was a simple case and she’d have it resolved for me by next Monday. I called on Monday and got her voice mail that says “I answer my voice mails at 11:00, 1:00, and 3:00 PM. I left a message but my call was not returned. This went on everyday for 2 weeks, with no messages returned. I called again on the third week and this time received a message from the union boss that she would be on vacation for the next two weeks. Period! No one else to speak with while she’s away. Three months later, this union boss pays a visit to our workplace to ask for $1.00 a month increase in union dues. I reminded her then of my grievance and was told “there are certain affirmative action laws that come into play here, but I am not at liberty to discuss it any further.” What a BS excuse! Affirmative action laws are about hiring, not about annual raises as outlined in the employee handbook. As a result, I was cheated out of about $2,000 that year. So don’t tell me how great unions are. They represent who they want to represent and ignore others like me, even though I had to pay them also, or be threatened with job loss.

  • http://LibertyAlert Flo Masion

    Thank you, Senator Bnning, i live in Oklahoma but my maternal grandparents were from Kentucky so I feel a kinship with Kemtucky. Also I have a friend in Kentucky
    and she appreciated me calling her so she could see your interview on Fox. I did call my senators’ offices and voiced my appreciation for your stand. God Bless You

  • JeffH

    Tazio2013, I guess the elections in 2010 and 2012 will be very bad years for your liberal left wing Democrats and Republicans. I’ll stay close to the computer and look for your comments then. NOT!

  • Warrior

    Hey Chip,

    This news is getting old. How about next week we discuss the present that Nancy’s going to spring on us. Ya know, that extraordinary bill that we have to pass so everyone can see what’s in it!

  • JeffH

    I meant DaveH.

  • JeffH

    Bob, simply put and to the point.

  • DaveH

    Bob,
    I know, I feel bad for the unemployed also, but everybody I have known personally has milked unemployment to the end, including my son and my sister. When I asked my sister why doesn’t she just get out and take a lesser job until something better comes along, she proclaimed loudly “I’m not going to work for $10 and hour!”.
    You can bet most of these people would find work right away if they weren’t being propped up with taxpayer money.

  • laura

    OH, one more thing all those people who have collected unemployment also paid into it, some for over 20 years. Just thought I’d add that.

  • J.D.

    AMEN, AND KEEP IT REAL TO THAT VIRG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is like you read my mind. I’ve been preaching this same stuff for years! Term limits and everyday, blue collar people in that didn’t go to Harvard and study Stalin and Moa and think they were heroes! Get people in for 4 to 6 years and after that they have to move right back to the same town they left so if they tried to screw us, he can face his neighbors and try to explain his BS! Sure will make it easier to decide for the people if you have to move back and face the ones that voted you in!

  • Jerry

    watch these videos and educate yourself

    OBAMA DECEPTION (part one)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

    FALL OF THE REPUBLIC (part two)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU

  • DaveH

    Nice thought but term limits won’t solve our problems. Term limits only take away the incentive for politicians to please the voters. Imagine, for instance, what would happen if every Democrat in Congress knew for a fact he/she was out in November. We would have National Health Care! And a slew of other Freedom-Robbing laws.

    The only real solution is to inform the adult electorate about the benefits of Freedom (both economically and personally), and work hard to stop the indoctrination of our future voters in the Propaganda Public Schools by pushing hard for vouchers and private schools.

    We need to learn as many facts as we can and use them to make the name-calling Liberals look like the ignorant people that they are.

    That’s the only way we are going to take back our country.

  • J.D.

    Amen to that! I am also self employed and have helped raise my 4 kids and kept my lifestyle in check. As far as this “unemployed” crap goes, I live in a community that has a handful of them. They go around town asking for applications with no real intention of getting a job. They’ve actually have made a lifestyle out of it! There are several businesses in town that are hiring but can’t find somebody to show up on time and do an eight hour job. Our society has come to where people want a paycheck but don’t wish to be bothered by a job. God forbid someone get their hands dirty! Over the last 30 years, I’ve been a short order cook, served in the military and my country, know how to weld, electronics repair, am a ASE certified mechanic, have never been laid off or fired from a job. And any job I left, I can go back and hire on whenever I want. So, Louise, if you want to have the government take care of you, pack your crap and roll your hoop to Canada or the U.K. or somewhere else. Amen TIME, and HELL TO THE YES!!!

  • http://www.americairemember.com angel-wanna-be

    awesome time, been working for myself since I was 17__ya can’t collect unemployment working for yourself__sometimes ya eat steak, sometimes its hotdogs__

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    TIME,
    You are so full of heroic whining, it is hard to relate to you.

    To earn $48,000 a year, $4,000 a month to pay $1,000 a month for one child at a child support rate of 28%, paying for food and shelter and incidentals of life for 18 years strains credibility, TIME. I don’t believe you.

    Unless you were a drug trafficker or a meth lab chemist, maybe that’s how you got by all the normal interactions with the rest of society, TIME.

    And to be so down on unions, TIME, is that because you are a FASCIST defending corporate international socialist principles?

    And to go to college, and type so poorly, I’m not sure if you are saying you have Multiple Sclerosis (MS), TIME, or a Masters in Science for teaching or literally a Masters Degree in Science. I suppose that would help for getting better cook ups for Meth. But if that’s it, stay away from the down wind side of the fumes, TIME, because those most be affecting your ability to relate and type.
    And who are your customers, TIME, the people up at those corporate international socialist offices there on Wall Street?

    To have worked so long and so hard for that $10,000,000 art collection, that is just not believable, TIME. And, what happens when your MS disease get out of control and you have to sell and pay the doctors and hospitals and health insurers for premiums that increase by 20-40% per year if they will even insure you, TIME?

    TIME, when your money runs out, do you have someone push you off a cliff.

    TIME, grow up!!

  • Louise

    Jeff I live in the real world! I am a 70 year old greatgrandmother.
    I have seen many changes in this world. My husband is a 50 year union member, it is because of his union we have a secure pension plan. He put his dollars in it while he ws working. My eldest son is a union member, my youngest son was the president of his union. I am proud to be an American. My family has been in America since 1645. One of my greatgrandfathers fought in the Revolutionary War and again in the War of 1812 along with his sons. My family has severed our nation in every war the United States has fought. So don’t tell me about the real world. Two of my grandsons fought in Iraq one was wounded over there. One will soon be deployed to Afghanistan. Is this the real world you are talking about? Believe me I know all about it!
    God Bless American and all our men and women in the armed forces.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    JeffH, try to get it, will you?

    It is the corporate international socialists who have convinced people like you, JeffH, over your corporate international socialist radio stations to only elect the candidates who are bought at paid for by these corporate international socialists.

    Then these elected officials create trade agreement like NAFTA and CAFTA, JeffH, and while also being paid tax subsidies for shipping jobs out of the country to places like China and Mexico where there are no minimum wage levels or environmental controls.

    Pretty good racket, JeffH. Is that what you know the deal is and are a wannabe if the corporate international socialist, or really one of them.

    Or is it you just don’t get it, JeffH?

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    What a load!!!

    Bunning is a bastard!!!

    To balance the budget on the backs of the unemployed who are desparately trying to find work in a economic depression is scum-bag politics! This is the worst form of corporatist international socialsism where the rich get richer and the rest of us get pushed further down into the economic swamp.

    Where was Bunning when it came to the Reagan “economic voodoo” followed up by Bush II tax cuts that put the U.S. government into a budget deficit? Why didn’t he raise these issues when it came to waging war in Iraq based on rumors and suspiciouns rather that any confirmed bacts? Why didn’t he object of Haliburton no-bid contracts to provide inflated goods and services to our soldiers fighting as mercenaries for the corporatist international socialists? Where was Bunning when it came to resisting taking the regulations such as the Glass-Stegall Act of 1932 overturn in 1999 that would have restricted and prevented the financial collapse in 2008 due to speculations by banks? Where was Bunning when it came to the open-ended insurance and pharmaceutical Medicare contract legislation in 2003 that drove up the costs of health care? Why doesn’t Bunning use his campaign contributions from these corporatist international socialists to pay his salary as a Senator and give back the money he gets paid to the U.S. government?

    Bunning decides to now make his stand on the backs of the unemployed to make a point about controling the budget?

    The guy should be taken out and beat to a sobbing pulp by some of the people who will be out of homes and foods and health care without unemployment benefits, if they haven’t lost them already.

  • Dick Gazinia

    That’s telling him. Good for you, Louise.

  • TIME

    Louise,

    My Family having been in the United States for countless generation is hardly of any value anylonger. My family goes back to the RW, and before as well.
    My Great Uncle died with nothing, yet he is noted as a Great American who made quite a mark on the country.

    I can’t count all the faimly members who have fought in wars over the years, many who were killed during said wars.
    As well one who was a General in the United states Army, one who went on to teach at Havard, one who worked for the CIA for 40 years.
    So what?

    My son was in the Marines and fought in the middle east, he is on his own now and works to make a living he has a wife and three kids to support so he does what ever it takes.
    He’s not complained that he works 14 hour plus long days, nor that he works hard, thats what we all do. So what.

    If we are the ones who let it all go down into an endless void of what value were their deaths, let alone what value were their lifes?
    This country was based on “FREEDOM.”
    To work and to work hard is what the United States was founded on. Not hand outs. Nor UNIONS, of what I find Repugnant.

    When the Irish came here in the 1800′s they were all but banned from working, yet they managed to surive and prosper and if they were Catholic that was a double wammy, I know of many who are Captians of Industry now whos backround are not unlike mine own.

    Look at the Italians who came here in the late 1800′s early 1900′s, they either worked of they starved, how many started a small biz only to become icons of industry like Anthony Rossi who sold oranges at a road side stand, he was Great American.

    So my point is simple being an American by name only is of no value anylonger. Its now time to get to work before there is no such thing as the United states of America.

    We have little hope of jobs spring up out of nowhere with out a lot of hard work.
    I was at the Post Office the other day while a guy was talking to the clerk he asked her if she knew of anyone who wanted a job, he needs 3 people but can’t find anyone who will work.
    Thats not uncommen, that more in line with whats really going on.

    I owned a Biz a few years ago of what I had to walk away from and loose well over $250K I had invested. Why?
    I could not find anyone to work!

    I came from a very poor family who had little to nothing, I made it with a {lot of hard work} and a {{“good attitude”}} that there was nothing to below me to do to make money, to include that fact that I worked while I put myself through College, slept a few hours per day and ate when I had enough money to buy food.

    In plain words I have never felt that anyone “OWES ME” anything. And have never asked for any hand outs.

  • laura

    Dear Louise I wanted to share my story with you. My grandparents(on my fathers’ side) immigrated to this country in 1901 from Odessa Russia, they were Germans farming the Ukraine.They came to America with an expectation,not of grandeur but that of good hard work. My Grandfather was a farmer and after working hard(all of his life)lost everything in 1936.While Joe Kennedy was capitalizing on the crushed stock market and grooming his children to rule America my Grandfather was tearing the barn down for fire wood.My Grandfather never recovered. He never owned another home again. He fathered 15 children(my farther was the 2nd to the youngest)and my Grandmother died when my father was 4 years old.My father served in WWII and after the war went to work (like everyone else)he paid all his taxes paid into unemployment and never made one claim on it. He died almost 3 years ago at the age of 87 He was the best man I ever knew.
    Now jumping into the future(now). My husband and I,about 6 years ago opened our own business(a fence company)we(at the peek)had about 12 employees.We paid our 941′s,940′s,B&O(monthly) L&I and unemployment taxes.When things started to go south and we had to lay EVERYONE off,I told everyone to open their claim for unemployment,even when it meant my rates would go up. Those people paid into it,years before they ever worked for me,and they deserved every penny.
    GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY
    AND MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS AMERICA

  • DaveH

    Yeah, Louise, and it’s because of his union and other unions driving companies out of our country that so many other people have to go without.
    When the Union members demand their exhorbitant wages and ridiculous work rules, who do you think pays the bills? The consumers are who! That money doesn’t just grow on trees. For every overpaid worker there is, somebody else has to suffer.
    Argentina went from one of the ten richest countries in the world in the early 1900s to 30th now, as a result of Unions, Socialism, and Big Government. Let’s not follow their footsteps.

  • JeffH

    Louise, I’ll stand up for what I have stated, open your eyes and smell the coffee. I’ve worked on both sides of the fence. There are times when unions are a good thing, and I believe trade unions provide a better product than non-union tradesmen, overall. But I have seen the negative impact of a union also, because I was asked to be a business agent by them many years earlier. This was a completely differant business and I was the warehouse manager at that point. In a nutshell, the company was more than fair, but the income was seasonal and based on the production of the employees. They voted the union in, with promises of great wage increases. The honest books proved otherwise, and a year later the employees ended up with the negotiated 50 cent increase. They lost their bonuses, perks and guaranteed raises they had recieved twice a year. They also had to pay union dues and several ended up losing their jobs because they didn’t pay their dues. The union yanked them off of the job. The union was The Longshormans union. A true story.

  • JimCo

    And who can forget when Bunning voted no against Bush’s $1.3 trillion tax cuts and his stand against borrowing $800 billion from China to finance the war in Iraq or borrowing another $800 billion for Bush’s unfunded Medicare Drug Plan. Yes if the rest of Congress had only followed Bunnings lead … we would not have doubled the National Debt during 8 years of Bush.

    What? Bunning voted for all of those? Then why does he all of sudden care about $10 billion … that is pocket change compared to all the unfunded programs he did vote for!

  • TIME

    Laura,
    Look no one is saying that there is a problem with UEP, as far as what I am saying is this. All Americans need to look at WHO made the problems we now face.
    Who – all Americans have had a hand in it, I know wow, hows that possible?

    We have all voted for people that are not in it for the American people, I would venture to say that 70% of the people who get into Politic’s are only interested in what will “benift themselfs.”

    Note; not a single one of these Politicians who are pushing HCR have signed on to what they want you to have, now have they?
    No, why?
    You can’t come close to what they have, and why should they give up what your paying for, even if you have what these politicians will next be calling a “ROLLS ROYCE” package, you can never come close to the benifits your paying for them.

    Are these politicians hurting from the laws they have voted into law?
    No, they are not. Why?

    They don’t give a crap about you {Joe or Jane American.}

    You have only one value to them, and thats to get your VOTE. So they can get on the “GRAVY TRAIN,” after they are in office they could care less what you want or need.
    They start on day one in office asking business for money to stay in office. So who benifits?

    #1, UNIONS, who pay out MEGA MONEY, and other Special interest groups.
    Thus the Americans who are dumb enough to keep voting these ROACHES back into office so they can get it right the next time, oddly never get it right, strange?
    NO, its not strange at all, its 100% normal behavior. WHY?

    Americans have a very short span of recall, then toss in the media always placing their two cents worth in to SLANT the view you should have, thus 90% of all Amrericans get screwed time after time.

    A long record of doing nothing is just that; a waste of energy and time.

    A Pretty face is of no value, and don’t tell me thats not the number one selling point, don’t kid yourself it is.
    I have been in the Music Biz for years its all sell the SIZZEL, Sell the SEX, Sell the Rhetoric.
    The Content is to much for the average person let alone the above average person.

    To prove my point, what car do you drive? What type of cloths do you wear? What schools do your kids go to? Its all whats in the Clique of the moment, as in whats really Hip / Cool or in vouge.

    Yes I know people pay into UEP, as a biz owner I had to pay for people so your not telling me anything I am not aware of.

    There is no easy fix now and its going to hurt really bad to fix whats been done, Barry is not helping anything with his out of control spending.
    By the way Barry never done anything other than Stir the pot to get folks all worked up, he is a straight out 100% PURE MARXIST.

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Laura,

    You point is a valid one and your post was very respectfully offered. I am sorry your sister has had such a rough go of it. I’ve paid into all the government progams for over 30+ years, and so far I’ve not been in a position to ask for some of it back…God willing, I won’t ever have to.

    I understand you may not agree with my response, but I hope you also understand I am trying to respond in a respectful manner. Part of my issue with folks drawing unemployment, is the tendency to abuse (milk) the system.

    To my point, I’ve met some who worked for a very short time, were able to draw unemployment and only had to apply “on-line” to one job offer each week….so that was their job…to apply for one job each week…probably never even got out of their PJ’s to apply.

    Just because someone pays into a taxpayer subsidized program, does not mean they should be able to simply apply for one job a week, since many times the money they receive during unemployment is cumulatively much more than they paid in. I don’t know a perfect solution, but one might be: those drawing unemployment should have to show up at their municipal/state’s workforce development office and take day jobs (not exactly, but similar to their employment experience) at least once or twice a week…allowing them the rest of the week to seriously apply for jobs…and if they turn a 2nd job offer down, they should lose their benefits. Like I said…not perfect…but I think that’s more fair to all who paid in.

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://Don'thaveone Sally

    Just to set the record straight. No employee pays into the unemployment fund be it state or federal. The employer pays unemployment compensation at both levels. It is not taken out of wage earners pay. Buy yes, someone has paid in your name for twenty years.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Laura, your name is as beautiful as your reasoning and writing.

  • DaveH

    JeffH,
    Here’s a guy I think you will like. Especially since he is running against Nancy Pelosi:
    http://www.johndennis2010.com/issues/

  • JeffH

    JeffH, it’s ironic you bring him up as I was checking him out lst night. I sent a small donation into his campaign even though I’m not in that district. Thanks though.
    I’ve wanted to tell you that I do respect you for your solid and steadfast beliefs and also for all the great info and links you and others provide here, whether we all agree or not. You must be a true Libertarian. Don’t ever give that up.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Joe H.

    What is your idea of how this country should be run. You have been sprinkling your nonsense through all of the comments here. Are you really that all government is bad and that there should be no kind of taxation at all.

    Where is your center of gravity? Are you such a raging corporate international socialist to want to totally destroy government? Do you think the U.S. should move into a third world type of country ruled by local gangs, tribes, or warlords to whom you pay your protection money and hope for the best in justice?

    Or are you just a mind-in-a-wheelchair fool?

  • Joe H.

    Radioignoramus,
    I believe in a flat tax. I believe ALL should pay the same, brain dead!!! you come here, don’t read the thread at the top of the page, ignore what people say to you and then try to make them look like a fool when in reality, YOU are the fool,son!!!

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Little boy, do you really read and understand anything about any of this debate?

    Or are you one of those repugtards who fall in lock step to the rant radio you listen to while washing dishes in the back of a sheltered workshop?

    You’ve got nothing but bitter invective and it doesn’t reflect on anything more than who you are, bright boy.

  • DaveH

    I just got a phone call from a surveyor wanting to know would I vote for John McCain or JD Hayworth in 2010. I told her “well, I only vote Libertarian, but I definitely wouldn’t vote for John McCain!”. She was giggling as she hung up the phone.

  • Louise

    If that is the plan it started before Obama! We had been in this mess since 2007!

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    You’ve got only part of it right.

    It is the corporate international socialists that are creating and bringing about the ruin. They are the Fascists that are creating the economic dysfunction.

    But, I would be a little cautious in lumping every government leader in that corrupt stew. Those who are into braying about paying livable wages while advocating for cheap labor and cheap capital equipment belong to the corporate international socialists. They don’t want any control but want to economically and politically control the rest of us.

    We need to recapture our representatives and require changes in election finanacing to stop the bribery and buy outs in D.C. that allows this ruination of the U.S.

    And, we will have to bite the bullet and take on some kind of tax system to start balancing the budget and paying down the national debt. I would prefer a flat tax system so everyone is forced to have some skin in the game with no escape for corporate international socialist revenue earning to tax protected offshore “subsidiaries”.

    It isn’t over until people like you and I start recognizing who the real enemy is: ignorance and greed of the corporate international socialists.

  • DaveH

    Big Government is the Problem, Not the Solution. If they weren’t so busily wasting our money, there would be plenty to fund startup businesses that would spend the money much more wisely than government does.
    Study this list of Countries ranked by their Economic Freedom and see which have the most robust economies (pick the country links to get more info about each):
    http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx

  • DaveH
  • laura

    Dear Time,
    Please don’t chaulk me up with what you think you know about me.I have 4 children and have home schooled them for 6 years, so you see I don’t wear YOUR clothes, my children don’t go to YOUR schools, I drive a car that’s paid for. I’m NOT hip,vogue or cool I don’t belong to any cliques I TRY not to shop at Wall-Mart(I’m not perfect) and I love my neighbors as thy self as my Creator has commanded me to do(that I do for Him with joy).
    OH and another thing GOD BLESS YOU,use your voice for great things not trying to put people down. Nobody will listen.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    TIME, better to be a MARXIST than a FASCIST singing the words of corporate international socialism.

    “Oh, you can’t scare me I’m working for the union,
    I’m working for the union,
    I’m working for the union.

    “Oh, you can’t scare me I’m working for the union,
    I’m working for the union,
    I’m working for the union.
    ‘Till the day I die.”

    I’m smiling here because I am a past union person but have also been a manager at a health care complex.

    I see the only issue is recapturing our country for the corporate international socialists, aka, FASCISTS.

  • http://irishbillyd.spaces.live.com BravoBilly

    The answer is simple: State by State replace each and every one of the Congressman and Senators with responsible people who are willing to balance a budget. We HAD a balanced budget back with Bill Clinton; but, our military was cut down to the bare bones so that when 9-11 happened that is all was needed for George Bush to ask for whatever he needed from the Congress. Now we have a Democratic Congress and president and the spending is going wild with each state grabbing whatever they can for their own little pet projects. Meanwhile people like you and me are having to tighten our belts, give up things, take the bus, walk to work, or look for work. It is getting old.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Look at the bright side.

    The corrupt corporate international socialist homeboys like Bunning and Dobbs are leaving.

    Notice, it isn’t just the Republicans that are owned by the corporate international socialists.

  • Louise

    the unions haven’t driven any company to outsource jobs. It is greed
    on the part of CEO,S.
    My father worked for the railroad and farmed. I know what hard times are like. I had plenty of them. I have milked cows and plowed fields walking behind a team of horses. So no matter what hard times you have seen so have I.I was taught that hard work was the to make a living.I have earned every dollar I have by sweat and hard work.

  • CJ

    Louise is really disillusioned by the limited experience she’s lived for her 70 years. She hasn’t really seen the other side, so she doesn’t know. Poor her. The FACT that unions exhausted their need when sweat shops ended doesn’t phase her. The consumer shouldn’t have to pay more than fair price for something to support somebody who only wants to work 35% of their life. No wonder GM, Ford, etc fell into trouble. They CAN’T make a competitive product for the cost to support their union. It’s that attitude that got us here in the first place. We wouldn’t be in this trouble if we never started down her “glory” path. Poor woman. I really feel for her.

  • Palin12

    When I was forced to join the union in 1999 (in order to work in california) we had to watch a 2-hour union indoctrination video. Everyone in the room was cracking up. The video was in black and white and showed a bunch of seamstresses in a sweat shop in the 1930′s and included a speech by FDR. Yeah, like that was real relevant to 1999. Maybe they should have shown a tape with SEIU thugs beating citizens at the Tea parties instead.

  • TIME

    Laura, I have in no way tried to insult you, I was expanding on your post from a differant vantage point.

    On that note if you felt I was in some way insulting you, I ask that you forgive me.

  • laura

    My friend no need for forgiveness I Love You. But you did try to lump me up. But in this world it’s easy to judge(not right)but easy.Let us shake cyber hands.LOL

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Laura,

    I could be wrong, but from another point of view (for whatever it’s worth): I don’t think Time was trying to insult you…I think in his comments, he was trying to speak in generalities and I do credit him for admitting “we all” own a piece of this mess.

    Fed Up Gal

  • TIME

    Laura,

    You got it, a solid cyber shake back at you.

  • DaveH

    Obama without his teleprompter. Does he look tired to you?:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbpWonUzlrc&

  • DaveH

    We don’t just use the F word casually to solicit votes like the major parties do. When we say Freedom, we Mean It!

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Right!

    Libertarian and every person out for themselves!

    Get your gun, Annie, to protect your food pantry for as long as you can!

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Dave H,

    Excellent point! This is so true. I know some who have been offered a job and (like you said) turned the job down to wait for a job making more money.

    While I understand it’s much easier to accept money for doing little to nothing…it’s simply delaying the inevitable financial national disaster when those calling themselves our “leaders” really understand there’s no reserve cash cow to continue paying. They’re simply robbing Peter (those supposedly with) to pay Paul (those supposedly without) and they should now be embarassed to even call themselves a leader.

    So typical of the Washington crew…..running an Amazing Race (to nowhere)!

    Fed Up Gal

  • CJ

    As long as there is an option to get something for nothing, people will take it. It’s human nature. We simply need to do the hard thing and take away the easy choice. It only serves as a crutch to make us more vulnerable. Eventually, we have to get rid of the crutch or we’ll never improve. Yes, some will have a very difficult time, including me (been out of work for over a year), but it HAS to be done.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Of course, many of the people I know have applied for these lower paying jobs.

    They either aren’t qualified for them and/or compete with 20-100 plus other people going after those same jobs.

    And the advantage belongs to the under 40 year old age group. The older ones get passed by as “overqualified”. Those “overqualified” are the ones with families to feed and mortgages that won’t get paid. And there the corporate international socialist will foreclose, reap the investment and resell the property.

    Of course, that just is pedalled as “free enterprise” by the corporate international socialists.

  • Hello?

    Boy, we really will have something to talk about in the near future when the Obama crowd has their way. The working class has been slaves for the full time bum for too many years but who can balme them, the Government gives them a blank check and all they have to do is just not work , they get a free lunch ticket and all of a sudden they think that they have an entitlement and everyone owes them a living.
    I go out and find a rabbit and about time I get him cooked, here comes a crowd with fork in hand, now if they bring a rabbit, we can eat in fellowship, if you are sick and disabled, I will give you my rabbit and go find another but I am getting sick and tired of the Government taking a third of my paycheck before I even get it and redistributing MY wealth to those that they think need a free living at my expense. I am not without compassion but I would feel a lot better if someone would put a gun in my back and take my money than to feel like a fool and used against my will.
    This bunch in Washington may just make a rabbit on an open fire in the woods a reality but I warn you , you had better eat it quick before someone smells it and cuts your throat for what you have earned. We have to stand up and be counted. TEA parties across the country, quit paying taxes, they can’t put all of us in jail.

  • CJ

    Until we get rid of “No Child left Illinformed”, stop teaching them to depend on the government and live off social programs and to have more illinformed kids to vote the manipulators into office, it won’t change. Create an education system that teaches self-dependency and minimal government (oh, and basic economics) and maybe we’ll start to heal.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Amazing!!!!!!!

    People that write corporate internation socialist tripe like this are interesting. Why are they so blind and unable to think beyond their narrow view.

    It has to be the results of incentives. Someone is paying them, perhaps very well, at the costs to the rest of us, to actually type out this tripe!!

    Are you in health insurance working for Blue Cross, United Health, or one of the other money-sucking corporations? Or are you working for Citibank, Golman Sachs on one of those financier political corrupters driven to steal tax monies from the government while shell gaming the stock market to steal monies from hard working american by yo-yoing the stock market taking money from retirement and annuity plans. Or are you working for oil companies with hedge fund games driving up the price of gas at the pump?

    Or are you really just a fool?

  • JSquercia

    I will Consider Bunning a Hero when he Opposed the Obscene Defense Budget until then he is just another Republican carrying Water for the RICH . We spend more on ‘DEFENSE” than the REST of the world COMBINED but I don’t hear anyone talking about cutting that Monstrosity THe Military Industrial Complex is in full control , So we go after things that help the little guy . Remember that Reagan made Unemployment Benefits Taxable Income . Talk about kicking someone when they are down
    I am relatively sure that Bunning (who was a HELL of a Pitcher) voted against making Billionaire Hedge Fund Managers treat their Compensation as ordinary earned Income rather than Capital Gains as it currently is ,This means these Billionaires pay 15% and NO Medicare or Social Security Tax . Funny the Republicans NEVER think to balance the Budget by Increasing the Revenue side (taxes) only cutting benefits to the most vulnerable . WE are currently fighting TWO wars
    and these guys PISS and MOAN about a top Tax rate of 35% . WELL during WWII it was over 90% : What freakin PATRIOTS these Guys are

  • Joe H.

    Earn Free Silver,
    They hate him cause he has made their heroes look bad!!! It was the dems that passed PAY AS YOU GO and then a week later tried an end run or a quarterback sneak to get around it! Bunning called attention to it, embarrased the hell out of them and now they hate him!!!

  • CJ

    Louise. Check your history. You claim you lived it. The problem started before 1930. It’s just been so slow in development, it’s not easy to see, but it’s there. The government lost control of its money when they created the Fed. There’s no regulation, so they print money without consideration. The more they print, the less the rest is worth. It’s called inflation. You need to get past your political hate and look at the reality.

  • JeffH

    JimCo, that was then, this is about now!

  • American Citizen

    I guess ir’s OK with you that it’s tripled under one year of Obama.

  • CJ

    So, RADIO, you think that, now we’ve gone over the cliff of the socialisitc wealth-leveling attitude, and many are suffering the ill results, that it’s OK to keep up the blood letting of those who are able to make the money so those who won’t should have it easy? Get a clue and take a course in economics. Less government = better for everybody. But, not everybody is equal, so we exploit our individual strengths and look to others for theirs.

  • JeffH

    Radio UpNorth, you wouldn’t be one of the unemployed voices of a now defunct, listener less liberal radio would you? My, the venomous hate towards Bunning you are spewing makes me think you might be.

  • Joe H.

    Radio,
    You just don’t get it do you? It’s the present admin that passed this legislation not Bunning!!! He just asked them to take it from available funds that wouldn’t mean borrowing more money!!! He is to be admired not cursed!!! He isn’t trying to balance anything on the crushed bodies of the unemployed!!! Try to see the scene as it is not through blood colored hate glasses and even you can see this!!!

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    CJ,

    You are to be commended for taking such a stand, especially since you are currently one of the unemployed. I will pray things will very soon turn around, in your favor. God Bless You and Your Family!

    Fed Up Gal

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    JSquercia,

    If you really believe paying 35% of someone’s income is reasonable and fair, why not have “everyone” pay 35% of their income? After all, 35% of nothing is …nothing…and 35% of a whole lot more…is…ding ding ding…you got it…a whole lot more; otherwise it’s just having the government steal for (and from) someone.

    Fed Up Gal

  • American Citizen

    How would you like only getting to keep $9 out of every $100 you earned? That’s called confiscatory taxation.

  • Richard Trabka

    Senator Bunning may have a point but he picked wrong subject to argue his agenda.Trillions had been squandered already so what 10 bil. Makes adifference. This is small change for these people to keep peace. Nobody wants “Athens” happening here.Most of responders seem to forget that UI is that- the insurance not government handout. So maybe in ten years or so somebody will raise and say –there is no more money for your retirement checks. It is heading this way.Seems that social trust is largely gone. Run who can and grab what there is l to grab still there.But 95% of is not even close enough to pigstile to have a chance to participate in “bonanza”. Our politicians and many who write to those forums Don’t know how it is to try to survive on $ 430.00 max and taxable.For many taking just any job is not a good solution because just any will not pay for day to day family needs w/o major downgrading-moving out, displacing child to different school etc. I am talking,basics. For many it means also requalifying to start at entry level job. Mr Wood pull your head from between your legs and and face reality. Even mainstream media says that every fifth American is either looking for work or is underemployed. Maybe at least some of the jobs should be shipped back after this massive money transfer. I got an idea,how about funding the UI Extensions partially from the bonuses paid to all these “talents” to precious to lose who screwed every body else. By the way even when unemployed those who worked in financial sector get preferential treatment. They can qualify for Special NEG grants of up to $12500 to retrain at high end courses. Rest of us have to do with $ 5300 with many string attached. Check it out.
    To rest of you in this forum, if you still have confidence that there will be necessary changes by either Republicans or Democrats you must be smoking something. This country was hijacked and it’s people largely compromised. But there is a chance, provided business as usual dealing will be challenged.

  • Carl Casino

    My business of some 20 years is shutting down. I have tried several times to hire & train someone to carry on but believe it or not the usual reply I get is “I’ll do piece work for cash but I can’t work full time because I’ll lose my Government check” Unemployment in my town (county) is 18%. Go figure!!!

  • laura

    It’s funny that you mention those who are young and sucking the system for I was just having a discussion with someone else about this same thing. Now don’t get me wrong I know it happens and definitely more than it should however I know a lot of people as you probably do yourself that are very good people just trying to get by and on the little bit of money they’re getting. Most of the people(notice I said most)I know would have been back to work yesterday if they could have. But really if “we” meaning you and me want to start pointing fingers at problems lets point them at BIG government(they’re not scaling down). They expect again for the middle class and poor to tighten our belts.
    As for Time & I think we’re cool.
    GOD BLESS

  • laura

    I wanted to thank you for your concern for my sister she worked in the silicon valley for many years got laid off by new management and because of her age(57)she has had a hard time finding work she’s a great person with a heart of gold and considers sucking off the state(as she puts it) one of the hardest things she’s ever done.
    GOD BLESS ALL THE UNEMPLOYED

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Laura,

    I think we probably agree on more than we disagree on. Ditto, in regards to your comment about Big Government!

    Regarding your comment about some “young and sucking the system”….while probably true….Sadly, the ones’ I was referencing…were’nt that young…LoL.

    Fed Up Gal

  • laura

    Dear Gal,
    You’re probably right.LOL

  • laura

    You know,it has to be said , your a pretty cool person GAL.

  • Joe H.

    OK Fed Up Gal,
    Tell your sis thanks. LOL!!!! sorry couldn’t resist!!!

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Laura,

    Thank you….what a very nice thing to say. Ditto back to you!

    Fed Up Gal

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Joe H,

    Funny guy!

    Fed Up Gal

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Laura,

    You’re very welcome. You come across as a thoughtful person and your posts that I’ve read have been written in a very respectful manner. I believe (as you may as well), there are many posting on here who have very strong opinions (as I do) one way or the other, but that does not mean they are not compassionate.

    God Bless You, too Laura…and Your Family! I hope and pray things will improve quickly for your sister.

    Fed Up Gal

  • laura

    Thank You and GOD BLESS.

  • Joe H.

    Laura,
    i only wish the best for your sister!! God Bless you and her!!!

  • libertytrain

    Fed Up – I agree with your Union thoughts – they had a purpose and perhaps sometimes work today but for the most part the Union “leaders’ are no better and are often equal to the scummy politicians filled with greed.

  • Joe H.

    Dickie G,
    Yeah that’s telling them. Why don’t you tell them about Addresso-graph in the cleveland Ohio area where the union made the workers go on strike for retirement bennies and then after a few had been retired for a number of years and some more were about to retire the company came forward and said they figured wrong and then cut their retirement in half. I worked with a 68 year old man that had to go back to work because he was lied to and couldn’t afford to stay retired. The union didn’t do a thing for them on that. Didn’t even do any figuring for them when it was printed to make sure it was right. yeah, the union did a hell of a lot for them!!! the workers could have done as much… nothing!!!

  • Joe

    I hope one day the employed workers who get a weekly or bi-weekly paycheck, get laid off or have their jobs become obsolete, so they too will have problems feeding their families or making ends meet when no money is coming in. We’ll see how many of you go crying to your elected officials. I’ll bet you any amount of money there will be a stampede to get unemployment benefits extended.

  • momof4

    Hello?
    Once again very well said, I agree with you 100%. The harder you work the more they take. Sorry I sound so negative, but we just finished doing our taxes

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    YOU ARE TAXED AT THE TOP RATE, ENJOYING THE FRUITS OF LIVING IN THIS COUNTRY AND ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT?

    You must have the keys to the front door of the capitalist socialist club!!!

    Was that some kind of cute methaphor about us peasants eating rabbits?

    You should be paying 90%, just like in the old days before the “voodoo economics” Alzheimer president Reagan go elected with the Iran back door dealing with Ayatolla Assahola Khomeini.

    Enjoy living in the U.S. and quit whining about paying your less than fair share for enjoying more of the benefits than the rest of us who have worked hard to survive and get ahead too!!

  • JeffH

    Joe, you don’t have a clue do you. Your comment is a typical liberal hate infested rant. You don’t even understand why Bunning took the position he did. Get real!

  • DaveH

    Typical Liberal. He seeks the lowest common denominator. Have you ever considered, Joe, that with the Government doling out our money to people that really aren’t trying very hard to get a job, they are impoverishing people and businesses that would have provided more jobs if they could have kept that money?

    That is why Socialism doesn’t work. Very few people want to imitate the people that work hard, put in long hours, sacrifice, and take monetary and financial risks. But lots of people will look at the slackers and say “why should I work any harder than they do?”.

  • http://bonnie.lawhon@mac.com BonnieL

    Remember one of the ideas from the Job Summit….establish undercover physicians to check on fraud. How about an undercover politician to detect fraud and ways to cut costs like so many of the ideas listed above?
    The subject Tabkra is following the law (Pay-go)! not trying to starve the jobless!

  • TIME

    Bonnie,
    Good idea but I am sure that whom ever would feel slimed after dealing with our Poly Ticks. Its kind of like swimming with sharks with aids.

  • American Citizen

    We were not married quite a year when our first child was born. I had the baby one Saturday and my husband went into surgery the following to repair his wrist. Unemployment at that time payed $12 a week. My husband washed cars one-handed to make extra money. Far too many people in this country are afraid to get their hands dirty to earn money. It’s time to get realistic about this whole economy thing. The Federal Government is the monkey on our backs.

  • American Citizen

    A dollar here, a dollar there and pretty soon you have real money. $10 billion may be small change to you but I can’t even think that big in money terms. You’re still playing Robbing Hood.

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    American Citizen,

    My guess is you were responding to JSquercia’s post. On the off-chance you were responding to mine….I’m in no away, in favor of such exhorbitant theft…I mean taxation. I was trying to say, if one must pay a specific percentage, then all should pay the same percentage. I just wanted to try and be clear as possible on that. LoL.

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Really?

    Why don’t you move to another country where the economic system is as favorable to your ability to earn income at that extremely high amount?

    For a corporate international socialist like you to whine about paying your fair share of the load that got your type into that position is contemptible.

    For the unemployed to pay $9 dollars out of every $100 of unemployment is immoral when that unemployment income is about 68% or less above a certain take home point when unemployment maxes out of the original employment paycheck.

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Thanks LT.

    I apologize for rushing through this message….I’m trying to get some things done at home this morning, before meeting a friend for a late lunch this afternoon. I just wanted to reply to your message.

    We’ve had some funky weather this week…here in the Land of Enchantment, but it’s sunny and bright out now….so I want to make the most of it…LoL. Hope you have a great weekend.

    Fed Up Gal

  • TIME

    Most folks have no idea how hard it is when you work for yourself, you can’t pass the buck as it were and no matter how hard you work you always have more to do.

    So you have many hats to wear, your the guy who when things go wrong – your not hard to find, many shoes to fill – no matter how hard it is to walk in someone else shoes, most can’t fathom walking in your shoes for a 1/100 of a mile.

    I wouldn’t have it any other way. I am my own boss, so when I get mad at myself, I just have to work harder to get the job done, it makes you brain work all the time so it keeps you young and keeps you in the loop.

    Its not for everyone I know that; if I goof off I don’t get paid.

    When you have people working for you that don’t have your work ethic, it drives you crazy.
    Let alone finding a match now is beyond words, I have looked for an intern for five years with out any luck. All want what I pay myself plus perks beyond what I give myself, and yet they don’t have a clue how to do what I do.
    So to all of you that work for yourselfs, I know you can relate to what I have posted, you live it just like I do.

  • DaveH

    So he thinks a Healthcare law will result in fewer emergency room visits? Here’s what has happened in Masschusetts since their Healthcare Law was passed in 2006:
    http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/04/24/er_visits_costs_in_mass_climb/

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    So, CJ, do you think tax breaks for the wealthy in 2003 was a socialist wealth leveling social plan? Are you confusing wealth leveling with wealth upsucking for the corporatist international socialists?

    As a defender of these corporatist international socialist, are you not able to see the point at which the whole economy goes over the cliff because the jobs are being outsourced leaving the middle class with fewer and fewer tax paying middle class members while the corporatist international socialists claim every deduction, exemption, and credit they can and park their earnings in offshore subisidiaries for whatever remaining revenues that could otherwise be taxed?

    Do you really think the people who don’t have jobs are only taking that position because they “should have it easy”? You have to be smarter than making that kind of assumption.

    It is for you to take courses in economics so you understand both macroeconomics and microeconomis and also some course in public finance to better understand economics. Try to get away from Milton Friedman “economic voodoo” and consider other economists such as John Maynard Keynes, John Kenneth Galbraith or Paul Krugman in the more current era.

    “Less government = better for everybody.” Really? What caused the spculative leveraging by banks in deririvatives and associated AGI quaint engineered convoluted schemes that collapsed Wallstree in 2007-2008. Isn’t that whole economic mess created during the last 30 years what has finally come home to roost?

    Study your history, study your economics, take off you conservative filter bias and try to clear your mind for straight thinking.

    If all of us have the opportunity to exploit our strengths at livable wages, the U.S. can still be saved from going over the cliff where it’s going to be everyone for themselves or pay your dues to the local tribe, gang or warlord leader.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Am I really meeting one of the Nashville TEA Baggers who listened as Joseph Farah, WorldNetDaily Founder, CEO & Editor In Chief, spoke at the TEA Party convention in Nashville Tennessee. Farah was opposed to national health care reform saying that being against colossal insurers controlling people’s lives was against “free enterprise”. I am not sure if WorldNetDaily is a Nationalist Socialist organization, but Farah went on to urge TEA Party activists to think beyond winning congressional elections in November and “take over not only the political institutions, but the cultural institutions, like the press, the entertainment industry, the universities, and yes the churches.” He added that substantial progress had been made in doing just that already.

    I don’t listen to radio. These rant stations for spreading conservative economic and poltical lies create too many nut jobs that end up being encouraged to assassinate President Obama and become violent in other ways and other places. The failure of the Democrats to realize this threat to balanced debate on the issues makes the propanda spread by the corporatist international socialists just that much easier.

    Everybody gets “dumbed-down” by this one choice only radio and spreading the crap gospel of the corporatist international socialists.

    By the way, Bunning is from Kentucky. They need to take an oath there when they take offices that they have not engaged in duels using guns. Since Bunning is all set to totally destroy the middle class with no jobs, no job opportunities with all jobs outsourced and no unemployment insurance, it’s soft to only suggest to beat him to a sobbing pulp. That better punishment would be, not a duel, but to take away all of his corporate and personal wealth and let him go looking for a job just like millions of other Americans have to do every day.

    And, I am not looking for a job. Are you?

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    You just don’t get it, do you?

    It was the last Administration that passed the TARP fund bailout that Bunning was referring too. And that money had specific legislated purpose that could not be changed without opening up that can of worms.

    And, you really just don’t get it, do you?

    The whole U.S. government is a $trillion dollars or more each year spending spending on make work projects like corporatist internation socialistic plans to seize oil in Iraq and fumble up any real chance to succeed in Afghanistan. The only other important thing is so Haliburton can harvest the tax payer money, currently supplemented by German, Japanese and Chinese borrowing, to make the stock prices go ever higher from growing dividend payments for people like Dick Cheney.

    The really don’t get it, do you? It is you who are wearing blood colored hate glasses endorsing these corporatist wars where American soldiers get blown up to benefit you blood covered glasses.

    But, I suppose that is just your way of having a rose colored view of the world.

    I would suggest you go to http://www.mumblingrepublican.com/ if you want a better education on open minded discussion.

  • Louise

    You should have voted her out. Not all union leaders are corrupt! Any more than all politations are, sure there are some bad leaders. it is up to union members to vote them out!
    I really get a kick out of some of you are down on people who disagree with you. To those of you that are self- employed and you are making it, more power to you. All I ask is do not look down on the people who work for some one else. You have told I have lived 70 years and learned nothing! Don’t judge me until you have walked in my shoes. I know what being poor is like, wondering how you are going to find enough money to feed your family!
    All I ask is you respect my right to disagree with you, as I respect your right to your opinions.

  • American Citizen

    No one is wanting to assassinate Obama, they either want to impeach him or vote him out in ’12. Why do you think no left leaning radio program has endured? Because people are wise to the leftist agenda and know it is not good for this country.

  • TIME

    Louise,
    I am not picking on you, I see first hand daily what union people do, its torn down the fabric of this once great nation.
    Now many folks in the unions work hard, but they are “few.”

    And as you noted there are {good and bad,} saddly the bad far out number the good and have done so for years. When the Marxist got into unions years ago back in the 1940′s thats when the real problems started here in the US.
    Just look at what Marxist Stern has done for the Unions.

    Now Barry thinks Marxist Stern can save us, all I can say is if Stern does 1/100 of what he did for the Unions we are in REALLY BIG Trouble as a country.

    Its not a try as you go project anylonger now we need real leaders not quasi leaders.

  • Palin12

    I would like to mention about a year after the incident I described above, we had the california governor recall election. One of the union guys phoned me at home and told me “I’m sure I can count on you as good loyal union member to vote no on recalling Gov. Davis.” Boy did I have fun with that jerk! I told him “No, you cannot count on me to vote no.” He says “fine, will you at least consider voting for Cruz Bustamante”? (whose plan was to raise taxes and fees in a state with one of the highest tax burdons already). I told him “listen, I got just one more thing to say to you…hasta la vista, baby!” and slammed the phone down.

  • Joe H.

    Louise,
    having worked for three different unions, the IBEW, UAW, And the Teamsters, I can tell you it isn’t always the local people that are the big problem. Ask your husband how many times he saw anybody from the national office. most times the only time you see them is at strike time to talk you into it, when they want to raise dues and if they are raiding a new site!! they show up in thousand dollar suits and five hundred dollar shoes. the people they are supposed to represent have never seen clothes like that much less worn them. If they show up at strike time as soon as the strike starts they get back into the private jet and leave!!! that’s real representation!!

  • Joe H.

    home boy,
    It isn’t your country also????

  • Joe H.

    JeffH,
    I think there are too many “H”s here!!!!

  • JeffH

    JoeH, that is a good thing HHHHUH? OOPS to many H’s again…lol!

  • Joe H.

    Radio,
    good job of ignoring what I said. The libs were the ones that passed PAY AS YOU GO!!!! Then just a week later, they wanted to forego that to spend more!!!! Now at least stay on subject of what I said if you answer!!!

  • Joe H.

    jeffH,
    just in case, that wasn’t me!!!

  • Joe H.

    American citizen,
    I know that tune real well. I got laid off the day before my first child was born!!! moved to Ohio two weeks later and was working. My former boss actually stopped by the day after my kid was born and dropped off a nice outfit for her!!!

  • DaveH

    John Stossel had a really good show last week. He was talking about the ridiculous licensing requirements that many states have for their business people. One in particular was a license requirement for florists in Louisiana. They had to take a class to learn how to arrange flowers, etc., and the class cost $2000. We must be protected from those unlicensed killer florists! The real reason for most licensing laws is suppression of competition. And we wonder why there is a shortage of jobs.
    Big Government is the Problem, Not the Solution!

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    The corporate international socialists are the greedy monkeys on the backs of us and our government.

    How many do you think are the “too many”?

    Do you really think that there aren’t people that are as heroic as you and your husband?

    And $12 sounds like you are very old. Are you now at the point of having accumulated a fortune of wealth so as to make arrogant assumptions about people way down the economic hill from you. Do you think of them as those “ungrateful, worthless peasants” who should suffer, starve and die just so you can feel better about it all when you die and go to the wrong place because you are defending the corporate international socialists?

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    The only “agenda” is the consolidation of small media markets after the change of media ownership. Consider the following history (meaning, based on facts):

    1941 -Local Radio Ownership Rule, National TV Ownership Rule enacted. A broadcaster cannot own television stations that reach more than 35% of the nation’s homes.

    1946 -Dual Television Network Rule enacted, prohibiting a major network from buying another major network.

    1964 -Local TV Multiple Ownership Rule enacted, prohibiting a broadcaster from owning more than one television station in the same market, unless there are at least eight stations in the market.

    1981 -Reagan Administration deregulation under the leadership of FCC Chairman Mark Fowler. Deregulatory moves, some made by Congress, others by the FCC included extending television licenses to five years from three in 1981. The number of television stations any single entity could own grew from seven in 1981 to 12 in 1985.

    1985 -During Reagan presidency, guidelines for minimal amounts of non-entertainment programming are abolished. FCC guidelines on how much advertising can be carried per hour are eliminated.

    1987 -During Reagan presidency,”Fairness Doctrine” eliminated. At its founding the FCC viewed the stations to which it granted licenses as “public trustee” — and required that they made every reasonable attempt to cover contrasting points of views.

    1996 -During “Blue Dog Clinton presidency, President Clinton signs the Telecommunications Act of 1996. It is generally regarded as the most important legislation regulating media ownership in over a decade. The radio industry experiences unprecedented consolidation after the 40-station ownership cap is lifted.

    The number of corporatist international socialists controlling major media markets dropped from 50 to 6.

    What were you saying about some kind of liberal “agenda” being rejected as “propaganda”? Is that what your mind has been taught to bleep as a sheep-follower of the corporatist international socialists?

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Stay on your own track, will you? Your feet are wandering like you are in a Minneapolis – St Paul toilet stall not really staying at what you are trying to do.

    You said. “You just don’t get it do you? It’s the present admin that passed this legislation not Bunning!!! He just asked them to take it from available funds that wouldn’t mean borrowing more money!!! He is to be admired not cursed!!! He isn’t trying to balance anything on the crushed bodies of the unemployed!!! Try to see the scene as it is not through blood colored hate glasses and even you can see this!!!”

    You did not bring in Pay-As-You-Go legislation. That was enacted in 2007 by a mixed Congress. The Senate had 49 Democrats and 2 Independents who caucased with them. The house had 233 Democrats and Republicans 202, if you don’t count the “Blue Dog” Democrats hiding with the Democrats because their level of conservative politics would be witch-hunted out of existence by the corporatist international socialists.

    That congress enacted “Pay-Go” in January 2007 with 48 Republican votes even though it meant the Repubs would lose out on their pride and joy, the tax-cut for the top level taxpayers would be sunsetted out of existence.

    The TARP funds violated “Pay-Go” along with no cutbacks in pork barrel projects such as military contracts for things like a airbus tanker plan given to Northrup-Airbus team owned by corporatist international socialists with those offices in Europe. All that happend during THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION!!!!

    Don’t try to rewrite personal short term history or other history with me. That Orwellian knothead approach is real lame.

    To get you back on track, Bunning is to be cursed. He could try to cut out these porkbarrel deficit producing programs, like Haliburon, and end the giant sucking sound of this countries monies to the corporatist international socialists. Not take it out on people who, when they get lucky enough to get another job, will pay taxes back to support and maybe, maybe, pay down the national debt again as they did when “Blue Dog” Clinton was president.

  • Joe H.

    radio,
    did you even read the artical at the top of the page?? I don’t think so as you would see where it says that not a week before Bunning started his stand the libbers or present admin, which ever you prefer, passed Pay As You Go and that is the subject of this piece as much as bunning is!! So YOU stay on track bud!!!

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Typical corporatist internation socialist thinking. If you can’t overwhelm them with bullshit, censor them which in this case means not providing a “reply” button to your last corporatist international socialist sheep bleep blip.

    The reference in the original piece was, “There was just one teensy little problem. According to legislation the Democrats themselves had passed one month earlier, the legislation was illegal. Remember when the House and Senate, with the glowing approval of the White House, passed something called “pay as you go” (pay-go)? The measure said simply that Congress could not approve any new Federal spending unless it found the money to fund it from somewhere else in the budget.”

    The Congress passed the later legislation with 48 Republican support votes of 100 Senators and 435 Representativies. It was signed by a corporatist international socialist Bush II. It would be interesting to see how a corporatist international socialist Supreme Court would rule on Congress’ ingnoring it’s own earlier legislation. Doesn’t Congress have the right to supercede it’s earlier legislation with later legislation.

    And for Defense to cover expenses and Haliburton contract frauds for goods and services for our soldiers in an Iraqi misbegotten war and a fumbled one in Afghanistan, and saving the country from the economic collapse due to “voodoo economics” and deregulations of corporatist international socialism against anti-trust and common sense rules erected against robber baron tactics MAY HAVE BEEN A NO-CHOICE SITUATION!!!

    The initiating piece defended Bunning and was sawing on the log of millions of Americans on unemployment. Remember that?

    You have got nothing! Your arguments are shallow and decorated with earings and lipstick like Palin to try to disguise the greed and corporate international socialism that has almost finished ruining this country. It is the peak of hypocrisy for your types to now be crying about a balanced budget.

    If you really want a balanced budget, lets try a flat tax instead of a graduated income tax system that would keep the budget in balance and pay off the national debt in 30 years. Let everyone have a little skin in the game, including the corporate international socialists, like you.

    I hear a giant “NO” coming. Pretty typical no plan, no ideas from the corporate international socialists whose agenda is just to block everything while they bankrupt the American people and their government.

    I gotta’ tell you, I wouldn’t be your bud’ unless we were in some northwester Pakistani valley closing in on Bin Ladin and Al Zawharri.

  • JeffH

    Joe H., not to worry my friend,,,the lack of an “H” was the giveaway.

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    TIME,

    Nicely put!

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Sounds like reheated corporate international socialist rant radio preaching “free enterprise”, a euphemism for corporate international socialist greed at the expense of all of us.

  • TIME

    Denno/ Radio up Bubba,

    Yada yada yada.. Got anything thats worth reading?

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    What’s worth reading to you? Could it be Alan Greenspan’s apology during Senate and House committee investigation of the bank bailouts following many assumptions and decision he made as Fed Chaiman operating on the principles of Reagan era Milton Friedman “voodoo economics” followed during Bush, Clinton and Bush II years?

    Or, do you need something stronger as your economic heroin like the Fascist father Hitler’s Mein Kampf?

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Way to go, Palin12!

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    And, now you’ve got a $12-14 billion dollar state deficit, education rates going up, unemployment over the top, foreclosures, and a gridlocked legislature.

    The right decision? Really?

  • Palin12

    Ha ha, not me radio. I left the People’s Republic of California 5 years ago! And according to that idiot Davis, it was more like $30 billion. I pay nothing into Davis’ $160,000 yearly pension.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    It is my understanding that the $30 million California deficit had been reduced by stimulus funds to the $13-14 billion area.

    I don’t know about anyone’s retirement package. Why are you still following that if you left there 5 years ago.

    And, where are you now? In the camp of some right wing wingnut carnival operating in parallel to the HBO ‘CARNIVALE’ series that was on several years ago?

  • Palin12

    It was a discussion about corrupt unions. Thankfully, I now live in Right To Work state where union thugs have less power. The reason California is so far in debt is because of all the overly generous pensions given to government employees, in return for their campaign contributions from their corrupt unions. These guys can retire at age 50 with full pay and medical benefits, paid for by the taxpayers. It’s been said that for every taxpaying prefessional person who leaves california, another illegal alien moves in. These illegals do not contribute nearly as much to the state tax coffers. Therefore these very generous pensions are unsustainable and busting the budget.

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Joe H,

    You nailed it!

    I volunteered to be a local union official several years ago…no election, because at the time…our local was in trusteeship…due to mismanagement at the local level (according to the District and National offices).

    The local membership numbers were so low, the National office came down here from…you guessed it….”DC” and threated the local would be disbanded if someone did not step up and assume the vacant union positions……so I stupidly volunteered.

    Well, I soon figured out that the National office ( who by the way…had the nerve to call themselves “leaders”) had about as much integrity as a slug. The slugs came down to talk to all us “common folk” and made all kinds of promises…to get folks to sign up and become dues paying members! What an absolute crock…they signed those members up, kept making promises to arbitrate a slew of cases, and didn’t follow-through on any of them…then claimed the local had no money to arbitrate.

    We knew there was no money initially, because of the trusteeship. When we asked how cases would be arbitrated (with no money)…we were told…the National office would cover any cost the local could not cover.

    I’m glad Louise’s union experiences have been good, but I agree with you…her experience seems to be the exception…rather than the rule. In fact, I would put most so-called union “leaders” in the same category as ACORN “lea……”…sorry…my keys just won’t type the rest…as they went on strike!

    Fed Up Gal

  • Louise

    Joe,
    No one is forced to go on strike, the members take a strike vote. When the members vote no, there is no strike.
    A union is only as strong as it’s members.You don’t like union well thats your privliege.

  • Joe H.

    Louise,
    tell that to the teamsters that raided a shop I was working at. They held about four meetings and when the people wouldn’t vote to go on strike the teamsters walked away from us!! In anger the boss laid off the whole second shift!!! We had an employees association that bargained with the boss and did a hell of a lot more than the teamsters did!!!

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    While I don’t necessarily agree or disagree, keep your eye on the ball.

    It was Reagan who began union busting with his ATC lockout in 1980. Reagan who also made large steps to letting corporate international socialists take over the media markets to pump out rant radio supporting only management positions most important to these corporate international socialists.

    So, management is still the enemy, particularly when that management is the corporate international socialists who are incentivized only by greed for the company with good paychecks for their loyalty.

  • SiliconDoc

    Now that is AMAZING:
    ” But here’s what no one in the mainstream media bothered to tell their gullible audience. Reid could have gotten the money any time he wanted, just by calling for a recorded vote. Bingo, the measure could have been passed in a minute. ”

    If that isn’t proof for just how _______ low the dem congress ________ Reid is, nothing will ever do.
    WOW.

  • momof4

    Hello?
    Very well said!

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    And NOW you are being hypocritical!

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Just trying to save the country from 12 years of corporate international socialist ruin!

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    What’s your plan, homeboy?

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Not correct at all.

    Just a choir boy for the corporate international socialists.

    And, don’t you think Maybe, JUST MAYBE, the unemployment funds had been used up since jobs aren’t coming back fast enough in an anemic economy, particularly when the corporate international socialists are sending their jobs out of this country like WestingHouse with their manufacturing plant in Ohio?

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    I’m fed up of B.S. “voodoo economics”.

    If you are so convinced that those people who were taxed at 90% tax rate, stacked these days with exemptions, deductions and corporate international socialist credits and NOT actually hiding funds in unreachable offshore subsidiaries, why don’t you put your economic skin where your mouth is?

    How about a flat tax across the board to pay the bill and pay off the mortgage on the country?

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Joe H. has memory loss. Ignore him.

    He ignores that 48 Repugs voted for the “Pay-Go” legislation despite the loss of Bush II richie’s sunsetting of tax breaks in January 2007 also signed by corporate international socialist Bush II. Those same people enacted legislation for TARP to rescue the corporate international socialist financial collapse due to stupid investment after deregulation led by these corporate international socialists like Bunning to save the country from the resulting financial collapse.

    Joe H. ignores the deficit spending required to keep the U.S. military in the field serving as mercenaries for the corporate international socialists in Irag for oil while fumbling the war in Afghanistan against the Taliban while Bin Laden escaped over Tora Bora into Pakistan.

    I hope the capture Bin Laden live to find out if he ever attended or knew anybody at Yale, where Bush II got a B.A. or Harvard where Bush II got a law degree.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Totally agreed.

    But does that make us part of the masses the corporate international socialists want to and intend to keep economically and politically enslaved without a fair livable wage as reward for our contribution to the U.S.?

  • Fed Up Gal

    Yeah? Well…I’m fed up with incoherent Radio signals from UpNorth!

    Try understanding the point, before you go into static mode.

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Must be the corporate international socialist faith system you are having a rapturous experience with.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Another suggestion: take off the corporate international socialist bias you have. That might help eliminate that static you have.

    Alternately, it could be the Reagan era tube radio you are still using. Maybe one of the tubes are failing, like Alan Greenspan in his admission of the wrong predictions he made while Fed Chairman that were all based on the “voodoo economics” of Milton Friedman.

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    RUN,

    You claimed radio status….so that static is yours’ and yours’ alone. You are [comically] obsessed with taking from others and dumping your trash talk, etc on them.

    Something terrible must have happened in your life to make you so hostile to those you believe and those who may have more than you. Maybe it’s all the ACORN-Pelosi-Reed-Obamanomics indoctrination…..well…just giving you the benefit of doubt here, which is more than you’ve done with any posters you’ve disagreed with.

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Backbone?

    If he had backbone, he would stay in government and face the day of reckoning when his short term, tax breaks for the rich, money spending on porkbarrel and misbegotten wars, etc, break this country. And maybe he should stick around until proven he has been bought out by the corporate international socialists.

    And, if you go to church, remember to keep politics out of the pulpit. Religious freedom does not mean becoming a 501(c)(3) organization. That will lose you your IRS tax exempt status.

    Pray that you see the light and reflect on the parable about it being easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    I’m glad you can type, Victor.

    I wish you were smarter, though.

  • Fed Up Gal

    Really? Hey Norm…I mean incoherent Radio UpNorth, why don’t you move to that other country you keep suggesting the rest of us move to.

    Me thinks you protest too much; it’s becoming quite clear that you seem to be the one who is obsessed with money. You’re making assumptions about others’ income that might surprise you. No matter what you or I make….no one should be paying a different tax “rate” than anyone else…that is if you really do want to be fair.

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Beautiful!!!

    I think I could like you after all.

    It sounds like you would opt for a flat tax system like I want. That would have everybody having some skin in the tax game with the same amount for everybody at whatever income level they are at.

    Some have suggested a national sales tax to save our country. I don’t like that because it seems, again, that the middle class gets hit with another regressive tax.

    But, I would even accept that if it will save the U.S., the greatest country that ever existed!!

  • Fed Up Gal

    RUN,

    If you would have tried to follow many of the posters’ previous posts on this and other articles, you would have seen that many do feel a fair, flat, value-added tax, etc…would be better than what’s going on now. I’m surprised you would simply jump in with your comments without having a better understanding of the comments folks were posting. You may have just shot yourself in the foot.

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    What are you saying “RUN” for?

    You should try to invest effort in a rationale reply at least 1/2 of the time.

  • Fed Up Gal

    RUN,

    Watch out for those mirrors, when “fool” leaves your lips!

    Fed Up Gal

  • Joe H.

    Hey radio numbnutz,
    Thats GolDman not Golman!!! get it right bright boy!!! I’ll bet you are so bright your dad called you sunnyboy!!!

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Bumbling Bunning and ONETime are living in a parallel world that exists in some quantum physicists theory of reality. It’s too bad their minds are not into the reality of this world.

    State are wound into their relatinship with the U.S. government based on funding requirements for various programs. If they were not, some of these programs that support the equality and economic fair play of our country would be lost. If this were not the way the federal system of our government were to work, we would turn into 50 different states, each on its own. How soon before the first war erupted? And who would have the nukes to dictate terms?

    And like charter schools are the answer. They are private schools that should not get one penny of state or federal funds to operate. If these people want to have government funds, let them go to a public school and have the “melting pot” experience to realize we are all in this together.

    Not to become a bunch of corporate international socialist elites.

  • Fed Up Gal

    RUN,

    I know it must be hard to pray with all that static going on in your radio head….but you might be better off doing so, since it’s equally as hard for a greedy and jealous man (or woman) to get into heaven.

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Amazing nest of misunderstanding and misstatement.

    Of course, these are all rhetorical questions! Any careful observer can see how shameless the self-proclaimed “Libersls” are in their constant attacks on anything good and Constitutional.

    “Good and Constituatonal”? Like the judicial activism and fundementalist Roberts Supreme Court decision giving free speech rights to corporate international socialists as money bagged entities to influence politics and elections in this country.

    Are you really a careful observer of what you say, or are you incentivized by some good salary from some corporate international socialist paying to to sheep bleep that tripe while going walking straight to the edge of the economic cliff?

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Stupid is as stupid does.

    That applies to fools too.

    Are you really a moralist churchgoer, or are you here to judge just like everyone else?

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Okay…whatever…Larry, Darryl and Darryl; I mean RUN.

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    It is always good for a Fed-up gal to get some exercise and get some of overweight off for better health.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Although it’s a little hard to understand how the person that just lost a job at Whirlpool in Ohio that is shipping its manufacturing to cheaper wages in Mexico has created the pot or mixture or lit the fire.

    Isn’t that more likely the result of politicians who are lobbied by corporate international socialists who load the campaign coffers of these politicians so the polticians will cut taxes, create subsidies to outsource jobs to third world countries and who deregulate the business community exposing everybody to the economic robber baron business tactics so euphemistically described as “free enterprise”?

  • Joe H.

    Hey igloo radio listener,
    Try reading the article above and you will fine that the present admin passed a bill of pay as you go also, numb nutz!!!! If you can read that is!!! I don’t believe you can seeing as this is the third time I’ve told you this, ignoramous!!!

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Typical mechanic, dumb as a box of wrenches but arrogant until carpal tunnel ruins your wrists and you have to look for someone else to do your work.

    To be an ASE mechanic doesn’t mean you know everything about everybody or every situation. It sounds like you found the right calling, one which gave you an occupation that is more inelastic to the effects of the economy. But, what happens when more people train to be mechanics and flood your occupation with competition. Then what do you do, whine about those people too?

  • Joe H.

    Hey boo hoo boy,
    Perhaps it’s caused by your greedy union too!!!! Maybe they shluldn’t have been so quick to go for the big raises!!!

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Paulie started working down the factory
    Needed extra cash while he got his degree
    Started stomping around the factory floor
    Taught him more than he ever bargained for
    Cause the first thing that young Paulie did see
    Was touch one touch all mentality
    of Union Solidarity
    Solidarity

    One day the boss sidled up so surreal
    said “Paulie come and sit for a while
    Got a deal to make you smile
    All you got to do is rat on the rank and file
    Forget Union Solidarity
    Solidarity”

    But he said

    Sorry boss I’m in the union
    Everybody here is in the union
    Everybody knows I’ll follow through with it
    won’t let ‘em down ’cause I’m true to it

    Won’t rat on my mates in the union
    All I have would now be in ruin
    I’m glad that I’m in the union
    I’m not a dog but a human

    Come on let’s fight
    I’ll give you to three
    Come on let’s fight
    The union’s with me

    Come on let’s fight
    I’ll give you to three
    Come on let’s fight
    The union’s with me

    The boss said” Paulie now that won’t do
    I think you got a real bad attitude
    You’re really not pulling your weight around here
    And you won’t get support from your working peers
    So there’s only one thing left to do
    Give you two weeks then, it’s all you’re due
    Forget union solidarity
    solidarity”

    But the factory boys walked off the site
    The minute they heard of young Paulie’s plight
    The boss sent ‘em letters that were full of threats
    Got court orders against the rest
    But the workers just stood fast and tall
    And in the end the boss had nothing but to fall
    to union solidarity
    Solidarity

    Sorry boss I’m in the union
    Everybody here is in the union
    Everybody knows I’ll follow through with it
    Won’t let ‘em down ’cause I’m true to it

    Won’t rat on my mates in the union
    All I have would now be in ruin
    Now I’m glad that I’m in the union
    I’m not a dog but a human

    Come on let’s fight
    I’ll give you to three
    Come on let’s fight
    The union’s with me

    Come on let’s fight
    I’ll give you to three
    Come on let’s fight
    The union’s with me

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Run,

    Incoherent (again)….must be all that static.

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Phil Collin describes ‘Another Day In Paradise’ as folikws:

    She calls out to the man on the street
    “Sir, can you help me?
    It’s cold and I’ve nowhere to sleep,
    Is there somewhere you can tell me?”

    He walks on, doesn’t look back
    He pretends he can’t hear her
    Starts to whistle as he crosses the street
    Seems embarrassed to be there

    Oh think twice, it’s another day for
    You and me in paradise
    Oh think twice, it’s just another day for you,
    You and me in paradise

    She calls out to the man on the street
    He can see she’s been crying
    She’s got blisters on the soles of her feet
    Can’t walk but she’s trying

    Oh think twice…

    Oh lord, is there nothing more anybody can do
    Oh lord, there must be something you can say

    You can tell from the lines on her face
    You can see that she’s been there
    Probably been moved on from every place
    ‘Cos she didn’t fit in there

    Oh think twice…

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    How about someone who is not corrupted by corporate international socialists like Reagan was and Bunning is these days.

    Of course, it could be that Reagan and his “voodoo economics” crackpotted up by that witch doctor economist, Milton Friedman, it just could be that Reagan was suffering from Alzheimers from the day he stepped into the Presidency.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    And Forest Gump would say, “Stupid is as stupid does.”

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    And, if that unemployment would not have been paid, that money would have been added to that employee’s take home pay, right?

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    What about the real robbing hoods who get TARP monies and those other corporate international socialists who have gotten NAFTA and CAFTA trade agreement rammed through congress to outsource middle class jobs?

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Are you hiring disabled people who are getting SSDI checks and worry about going over the maximum amount and losing their main survival income?

    Their is more to this than you are telling us.

  • Fed Up Gal

    RUN,

    Well….after reading several of your on the fence, off the fence comments….Forest’s intelligence is looking pretty good.

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Good post!!

    You have got it perfectly right on all levels.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    You lucky, naive, arrogant sparrowfart.

    Government holds a certain level from businesses in a trust fund for unemployment situations of covered employees.

    Apparently you have never been unemployed and don’t have a clue of how tough it is to find another job in today’s economy. That toughness get even more difficult as a person get’s older.

    Consider yourself lucky and remember the saying, “There, but for the grace of God, go I.”

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    The link lacks credibility.

    It more than likely was ER because they could not afford Massachusets insurance premiums under this economy and because there was no public option to keep costs down?

    Wasn’t that Massachusetts plan designed by the new Republican Senator Brown and the pretty boy corporate international socialist pinup, Mitt Romney?

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    It is amazing how you don’t see the obvious political gamesmanship going on at the expense of the rest of us and benefiting only the corporate international socialists.

    Reid was smarter than Bunning. He set up Bunning and the Repugs for always being the party of “NO” to everything the Dems were and are trying to do to get things back to some kind of economic equilibrium. And Bunning fell for it like the cork he is and embarassed the entire Repug leadership by blocking this legislation.

    No wonder he is retiring. I guess it’s hard to look at yourself in the mirror in the morning when you are feeling as ashamed of himself as he must be.

  • TIME

    Hi DennO, Nice new name you got there BUBBA..
    Radio Up Bubba.

    BigD lets see your Gentleman Jim, and who else?
    “SYNTAX” Bubba, now don’t go look it up
    figure it out.

  • Palin12

    ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • TIME

    DennO / Radio up Bubba, I have a few moments again, so as you say {grow up} thats right you need to grow up and get a job stop living with your Mommie.

    Lets review your a Bigot, a Raciest and a Marxist that loves the Unions. Yea that speaks volumes.

    How cares If I missspell something big woopieeee. I am not as anal as you are. As I have found over the years most of the people who make real money, are not that ANAL.
    We are open minded and use our brains for other things like really making money something your very envious of as per your rantings over and over again. You have NO spine.

    My art collection is not worth as little as you posted, so on that note here are a few I have collected over the years you do the math oh smartie pants, 3 Warhol’s, 2 Kooning, 1 Pollock thats just about 1/20 of my collection and they are all are original’s.

    I have all these due to my taking a chance on items that I liked. I have been told over the years what garbage they are by mindless dips of fools just like you. So who’s laughing now.

    I have delt with worthless mindless twits like you for years who have the basic IQ of a box of old rusty bent nails. People who are blind by the envy that breads in your heart to dumb to see that the future of an item is far greater than the NOW factor.

    If your happy being a Marxist, there are many places you can go and live, so why subject yourself to such a harsh environment as the United States with all of us hard working people that think out side the box and make money, oh I know “you need a MOMMIE.”

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    I never like Warhol.

    I found Pollock interesting.

    But, you have got nothing for arguments.

    You have no arguments, just attempts at insult to distract from the facts and the truth. I think your whole story is a fraud.

    It must be because you have a 15 watt mentality in a 150 watt world.

  • TIME

    Bubba Radio
    Your the fraud and each post you put down is just more proof of it.
    Your a zero watt, that still lives with your MOMMIE. I bet your all of 15 years old if that, and have never even worked a day in your little life Bubba radio.

    And You wouldn’t know what art is let alone a Warhol if it fell on you.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Can’t even come up with your own decent metaphor for an insult.

    Since you’re the one he brings up “Mommie”, is that who put you up in your business that is now going broke with the changes in the market for music choices?

    Good luck on your way down the tubes. Just keep on slapping your monkey for distraction.

  • TIME

    DennO / Radio Up Bubba, So who are these people that you speak of?

    Name names.

  • JeffH

    Radio, you couldn’t be more wrong. I guess you can figure me out just by the little story I told. You don’t have a clue to my experiences other than this, yet you can judge me by the comment I made regarding unions.

  • Palin12

    ZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    You really should at least try coffee.

    Ever thought about joining the Coffee Party?

  • Palin12

    Just because you know how to cut and paste the same old adjectives over and over and over does not change the fact that your ranting and raving is just plain boring.

  • Jana

    Palin 12, this guy is a real loser. He doesn’t sound too smart.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Only your types would feel emotionally reinforced when another idiot-savant sings the same Ayn Rand rants.

    It’s not genius. It’s just sad.

  • TIME

    Denno / Radio up Bubba,
    Ok so would a flat tax not be the same for everyone, so your whole rambling of fair tax falls falt on that note.
    As someone who makes $20K will pay the same as someone who makes $100 million.

    Grow up bubba.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Hey, bright boy! Do YOU really understand the “Pay-Go” legislative history?

    You have better make sure you debate the facts and face the argument than displaying your outhouse attempts to distract by name calling. That kind of hysterical emotionalism shows that you are losing the argument and any remaining touch with reality.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Joey, are you back from kindergarten yet?

    And how are you spelling your leaders name? Hitler. He was the clarity of Fascism which your type is full of endorsements about.

    I’d suggest you go to your closet and slap your monkey for better ideas.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Agreed!

    So, how is it you are endorsement all these fanatic right wing positions that support corporate international socialistm where the rich get richer and the rest of us are just left to be exploited as just so many useless peasants.

    What you should try to do is replace those tubes in your radio that was bought during the “voodoo economics” of the Reagan era. Those radios do not bring in the real reception when you listen to the claptrap of corporate international socialist rant radio.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Wonderful attempt to rewrite the facts.

    NAFTA and tax subsidies have given these corporate internatiional socialists like Whirlpool a green light to Mexico where labor is real low. The jobs at Whirlpool at livable wages supporting middle class taxpayers are now lost, thanks to the politics of your type.

    What is your job? Will it be outsourced to Mexico next?

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    “Bubba”?

    I am catching a glimpse of respect given to me. “Bubba” is a red neck with long history of being a working person. And, you have gotten that part figured out.

    What I am talking about, corporate internatinoal socialists, are these giant corporations that don’t give a damn about working people but only about making profits for their corporations. And the incentive is high salaries and stock options that makes ethics and morality disappear.

    The middle class suffers from lost jobs to cheaper labor pools in other countries under NAFTA, CAFTA, tax subsidized outsourcing, etc, downward squeezed wages and jerked up and down values of 401(k) retirment plans and annuity pension plans that are lost when people have to liquidate them in a sick economy because of these lost jobs.

    And the balance of payments shipping these product back in makes our country’s currency devalued and the national budget deficit grow until we are totally a banana republic under control of these corporations that do that to us.

    And our politicians are bought out by campaign contributions that makes them listen and follow the directions of the 6 lobbyists that surround them while we try to leave messages on the phones of our politicians from our home districts.

    And the ownership by 6 corporatioins of the major media markets gives them the heavy hand of pursuasion by only presenting their side of any issue.

    So, we end up being politically and economically enslaved by these corporations. And I suppose the next step would be to have some group like in Germany prior to WWII seize control to save us from the total disintegration of our country. And that is the plan for Fascism.

    The only thing is to push back on this kind of creeping Fascism which is almost totally successful now. One of the next tests will be to get some kind of health care reform that does not ruin the middle class and the country with lack of affordable health care for individuals and the country.

    Then, we need to address jobs and balancing the budget. On the budget, I hate paying taxes as much as anyone but I would rather pay more taxes to save the country while getting rid of wasted spending like no bid contract to Haliburton.

    And maybe being a little more selective on how we use our military. We should not be mercenary forces sent in the force corporate will on some other country like the oil in Iraq.

  • JeffH

    Time, it seems Radio will only speak about his Anti-corporate socialists in generalities.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    I’ve given you specific facts time after time in these posts.

    You have replied with generalities and more commonly insults because you have no arguments or facts to back them.

    If you want to go into specific, show your cards. I’m calling your bluff here. If you’ve got nothing, you lose.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Grow up yourself, Gump Jr.

    A flat tax means you pay the same percentage on your $20,000 a year as I on my $100,000 a year. There would be no exemptions, no deductions, and no credits. In other words, no social planning thrown into operating a tax system to benefit a few at the cost to the many.

    If you want to do something in your business for some businees reason, do it. If the number don’t work to do it, don’t do it. Don’t expect to be subsidized for making your personal or business decisions.

    Try to wrap your 15 watt mind around that idea.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Attention Deficit Disorder?

    They have drugs for that. Can you afford any?

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Palin12,

    Perfect!

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    The two of you really have to find and join a Coffee Party.

    That might help to sharpen consciousness and mind sharpness.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    There but for the grace of God, ….

  • Keith H

    I think if we had a better understanding of the economic system,we could take some of the power of the elites and put some of it back in our hands,there’s a book i think might give us some solutions, it’s called The “Web of Debt” by Ellen Brown.

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    RUN,

    One can only be exploited if he/she put themselves in a position to be exploited. Stop doing that….and you’ll be better off.

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    LOL

    What continuing day in paradise are you existing in that you do not see what is happening to the economy where there are no jobs to be had?

    Do you following the reports of real unemployment being closed to 20% where the national average is 10-20 people applying for every job that exists?

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    RUN,

    Yes, I agree with part of your statement; those over 40/50/60, etc…. do have a harder time getting jobs when competing against younger folks.

    It’s a sad fact…just about everyone has some sort of battle in life, and I believe the key is to try and take actions when things are good to put ourselves in a better financial position when things are not so good, i.e., live within our means (not the Jones’ means) and save something along the way to help cushion us in tough economic times. We’re all responsible for doing this, and in all but the most legitimately dire circumstances….it’s unreasonable to expect personal bailouts if we chose not to be responsible.

    Fed Up Gal

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    RUN,

    Good for you….I see you took me up on my advice and decided to call on someone who can really help you…God!

    Fed Up Gal

  • Jana

    Wow, Fed Up Gal, it sounds like you got into a debate with a pathetic Liberal. I have had a few run ins myself with them and they just can’t comprehend common sense, nor truth, nor facts. Too bad for R U N.

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Jana,

    Yeah, RUN and his other personalities (Norm and Denniso) are odd cookies, to say the least. The only explanation I have is….it’s Spring Break in many parts of the country….all the teens and tweens jump out of the sand box to try and play in the real world, during Spring Break.

    Fed Up Gal

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Idiot-savants like you are good at reinforcing your own specialty. In this case for your types, it is reinforcing your own magic thinking with revisionist facts.

    As for spring vacation, maybe it would help if you would take a break.

  • JeffH

    “corporate international socialist” Wow! it seems Polly learned some new words besides “Polly want a cracker”.

  • http://www.MumblingRepublican.com Radio UpNorth

    Okay.

    Now we agree.

    Should one or both of us be uneasy about that?

    (%

  • Dee Holsem

    Hoorah for Mr. Brunning. We need more like him to save America. It’s time government only governs, not run a business. Down with Socialism.

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