Healthcare.gov Is Obamacare’s Best Feature

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Rick McKee, The Augusta Chronicle
Rick McKee, The Augusta Chronicle

The public face of the Obamacare deathcare disaster right now is the government website that administers program sign-ups, Healthcare.gov.

If the government’s goal in establishing Healthcare.gov, as President Barack Obama has claimed, is to allow people to view available insurance plans and sign up for them through the website, then Healthcare.gov is a colossal failure. It’s the type of failure that, had it occurred in the private sector, would have resulted in the immediate firing of the company’s chief executive officer, the head of the department overseeing the project, the project’s director and most, if not all, of the people who contributed to the project in any supervisory way — and that is only if the company was able to survive the disastrous debut.

But government is not negatively affected by failure. In fact, there is a reward for failure in government. As Representative Steny Hoyer reminded Tuesday when asked how Congress could help improve the system, “We can give them a little money.” Never mind the hundreds of millions of dollars already dumped into the boondoggle.

And so it was for the crony firm tasked with developing the website, CGI Federal. The Canadian information technology firm entered the U.S. government contracting business after buying several American IT firms beginning in 2004. It was in the right place at the right time and got the contract despite a checkered past on similar projects; one of them, a Canadian healthcare registry for diabetes sufferers, performed so badly and CGI missed so many deadlines that the $46.2 million project was scrapped.

So apparently, government contractors aren’t affected by failure either, at least as long as they play the corporatist game and line the pockets of the Washington, D.C., criminal elected class, which CGI did to the tune of at least $800,000, according to Opensecrets.org.

And neither are government bureaucrats affected by failure. See Sebilius, Kathleen; Lerner, Lois; Holder, Eric; Boswell, Eric J.; Maxwell, Raymond; Clinton, Hillary; Napolitano, Janet, etc.

Insurance executives are warning that the Healthcare.gov website will lead to theft of private information and other forms of identity theft. And if fixes aren’t made properly, those trying to sign up can expect to see their bank accounts debited multiple times and they may still not be signed up for health insurance.

The user experience has been disastrous. ProPublica has been monitoring user feedback at Healthcare.gov/feedback and is finding that the site is misidentifying people, compromising their identities (or claiming their identities are compromised), requiring them to fill out the same information numerous times, blocking their access to their own accounts and costing insurance agents countless hours and dollars in lost time and clients.

But as bad as the Healthcare.gov rollout has been (and even Democrats are now admitting it has been a failure), Obamacare itself is actually much, much worse.

    • It restricts medical choices in myriad ways. Treatment options and payment schedules will be set by a group of unelected bureaucrats under the thumbs of Big Pharma, the medical industrial complex and Big Insurance. Holistic and naturopathic treatments are not part of the protocol. Doctors are leaving over the regulations and reduced payment schedules. Many more are being dropped by the crony insurance companies. (See below.) Most doctor examinations are being replaced by examinations by nurse practitioners.

 

    • Although its official name is the Affordable Healthcare Act, Obamacare is anything but affordable. The low-premium Bronze Plan has impossible-to-afford deductibles. The high-premium Gold Plan is unaffordable to most. According to a breakdown of premiums for each county done by The Market Ticker® the average unsubsidized premium for a 27-year-old will be $3,200 per year. For the average 50-year-old, individual premiums are about $5,434 per year. For a couple with children, the annual premium would be about $7,774. But smokers’ premiums are about twice that because of surcharges. You can see the unsubsidized premium for your county or parish here.

 

    • As is typical of government redistribution schemes, this one picks winners and losers. Losers are most Americans who will be paying a lot more for less care and fewer choices. The workers and the healthy will be subsidizing the poor, the nonworking and sickest. The text of the Obamacare calls for government “subsidies” up to 400 percent of the poverty line (about $94,000 for a family of four). But lawsuits are in the works that will deny subsidies to those 34 States that opted not to set up exchanges. Few, if any, will choose to pay the prices for unsubsidized premiums. According to government Consumer Price Index numbers, health insurance spending is .656 percent of the family budget. Under Obamacare, a family would have to make to $1.185 million annually for a premium of $7,774 to be .656 percent of their budget.

 

    • If the government pays for treatments, it can set treatment options. Already, the Food and Drug Administration is a fascist system that approves drug treatments will little or no independent research and it not only exempts Big Pharma from paying damages to people harmed by their drugs, it often uses taxpayer dollars to pay damages when courts mandate them. Once the government gets into the business of approving and mandating treatments, medical freedom is lost.

 

    • Many Obamacare supporters outside the Beltway believe that Obamacare is a better system than the previous government-regulated crony system because they disapproved of private businesses making decisions about which treatments they would pay for and how much they’d pay. But Obamacare is a fascist system written by insurance companies, Big Pharma and medical-industrial lobby to their benefit, not to the patients’ benefit.

 

    • Further evidence that Obamacare was written by the insurance companies can be seen in their rising stock prices since Obamacare’s passage. Obamacare is a boon to insurance companies who expect to see in increase in the number of customers and premium payments guaranteed by the Federal government.

 

    • Obamacare is hastening the collapse of U.S. economic system. America is currently selling U.S. bonds to itself in order to pay its bills and running up trillions of dollars in “debts” that will never be paid by anything of substance. The Congressional Budget Office estimates the cost of Obamacare at $2 trillion, but the law will increase the number of insured by only 40 million people at a cost of $50,000 each.

 

    • Obamacare is turning America into a part-time workforce. Hundreds of thousands of full-time jobs have been reduced to part time so businesses can avoid Obamacare mandates.

 

  • Obamacare’s premium structure penalizes married couples. It gives benefits more generously to unmarried couples who cohabit than it does to married couples. Cohabiting couples are 170 percent more likely to split up than married couples. Children from broken families are 82 percent more likely to live in poverty and are more likely to engage in high-risk behaviors like sexual activity and substance abuse and are more likely to exhibit anti-social behavior.

Or, to sum up, as I’ve told you numerous times, Obamacare is a deathcare trap of graft and corruption that advances medical tyranny and hastens the collapse of the U.S. economy… and that’s not even the worst of it.

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  • vicki

    Bob Livingston writes:

    According to a breakdown of premiums for each county done by The Market Ticker® the average unsubsidized premium for a 27-year-old will be $3,200 per year

    $3,200/yr = ~$266 mo or in other words about the payment on a 4 year loan to buy a car. I.E. A car payment. (Assumes $10,000. No down, 4.88% interest. 48 mo) (http://autos.yahoo.com/car-finance/monthly-loan-calculator.html?rate=4.88)

    • Stephine

      So everyone stops buying cars and give that money to the government? Oh that is rich, then when the auto industry files for bankruptcy (many again) the people can bail them out. Accelerated death spiral for the economy that was already in a death spiral. Time to get those busy body government folks out of our lives. Maybe then the economy can be fixed.

      • squeeze127

        Welcome to the Catch-22 of the Government is here to help out. Too big to fail? Well we’ll just have to take it over rather than let it go bankrupt!

        • Motov

          Even though the government is bankrupt,….

          • hungry4food

            As implementation of the President’s health care law
            continues to run into problem after problem, it’s clear that this law
            is simply unworkable. However, instead of repealing or delaying the law
            entirely, the President is issuing special exemptions and favors for
            the politically connected and powerful.
            http://www.justexemptme.org/?rfid=1310-11165&em=n3angus@centurylink.net&l=2

            From the very beginning President Obama said “if you like
            your plan, you can keep it.” What he really meant was “if you like your
            plan and you have powerful Washington connections, you can keep it.”
            Sadly, the rest of America is stuck under the weight of this massive,
            devastating law.

            The list of groups that want out from under the onerous burdens of the law continues to grow by the day.

            Congress and their staff

            When ObamaCare was passed, Senator Chuck Grassley inserted
            an amendment that required all members of Congress and their staff
            members to purchase insurance from one of the new health insurance
            exchanges. Senator Grassley argued that if these exchanges were good
            enough for you and me, they were good enough for Congress.

            However, like so many things with this law, that is easier
            said than done. Staff members complained about the cost of buying
            insurance since they’d lose their generous taxpayer-provided insurance.
            Congressmen complained that they might lose good staff members who
            didn’t want to be forced into these bureaucratic monstrosities. Instead
            of fixing the glitches, President Obama and his administration simply
            waived the problem away. Now, all members of Congress and staff members
            have an ObamaCare exception that no other American has.

            Labor Unions

            Labor Unions supported ObamaCare from the very beginning
            becoming important cheerleaders for the administration. But as we get
            closer to the January 1 roll-out, union leaders are realizing just how
            bad ObamaCare is for their members. In July, Presidents of the
            Teamsters, UNITE-HERE and United Food and Commercial Workers sent House
            Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid a
            scathing letter detailing many of the problems Americans face with this
            law. The law will “destroy the foundation of the 40 hour work week”
            and confirms that many employers are cutting employees’ hours.

            Employers

            According to ObamaCare, all employers with more than 50
            full-time employees must provide health insurance coverage or face a
            $2,000 per employee fine. This unprecedented mandate imposes incredible
            costs on business across America that will continue to grow with the
            cost of health insurance. Large employers focused their attention on
            the Obama administration begging for a concession and they got it. Over
            the Fourth of July holiday, the Obama administration secretly
            announced that the employer mandate—but not the individual
            mandate—would be delayed until 2015.

            State of Massachusetts

            Massachusetts is the blueprint for ObamaCare, or so we were
            told. Again and again, supporters said to look at the success of
            reforms in Massachusetts, ObamaCare simply instituted those nationwide.
            But now, even Democrats in the Bay State are demanding waivers from
            ObamaCare. ObamaCare will have an “adverse effect” on insurance in
            Massachusetts requiring immediate action. Even the ObamaCare-supporting
            Boston Globe is warning of the “one-size-fits-all” approach. If the
            so-called reforms are unworkable in Massachusetts, where will they
            work?

            Restaurants in Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s district

            This trend isn’t new. When ObamaCare was in its infancy,
            the Obama administration began handing out waivers to employers for
            various other provisions of the law. In early 2011, the administration
            issued waiver after waiver to politically connected businesses. In
            April of 2011, almost 20 percent of the waivers issued were for
            restaurants and hip nightclubs in former-Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s
            district.

            If you’re well-connected and know how to work the system
            you can get a waiver or delay from the damage this law which is about
            to inflict on our economy and our health care.

            But what about us? As average citizens we’re about
            to feel the full brunt of the law. Sign the petition and urge Congress
            and the President to: Exempt Me Too!

          • Motov

            This “lemon” needs to be removed, plain and simple.
            Based on the fact the salesman lied.
            What needs to be done is to remove ACA 100 %.
            If you want real reform, Talk to those in the medical field,
            Doctors,..nurses,..technicians,… get their ideas.
            Do not allow Drug companies, Insurance companies, and their lobbyists to dictate what they want.
            But most of all no more of this crap about voting for something into law without finding out what is in it.

          • hungry4food

            If you are a Lawyer tell me if I am off on this but
            this is why I think we did not hear from the so called Moderates on Obamacare
            in favor of Dr. Coburns healthcare bill , because the establishment RINOs are
            lawyers and people who stand to benefit from the ACCESS Obama care will given
            them to Defraud the system ???? FOLLOW
            THE MONEY , isn’t that what they always say ???????

            I smell a RAT !!!!!!!!!!!

            Why didn’t we hear from those wealthy Establishment Republican party members
            talking about the Patients’ Choice Act (S. 1099) NEVER GETTING HEARD ON THE
            SENATE FLOOR ?????

            Is it because these same so called Moderates are also Lawyers and
            others that stand to benefit from the ACCESS the Obamacare program creates for
            them to DEFRAUD the Taxpayers ??????

            This proves the
            point because ……You see , the Reid Ran Senator has NEVER
            ALLOWED THIS BILL TO COME TO THE SENATE FLOOR … EVER !!!!! And it makes way
            more sense than the ACA !!!!!

            Patients’ Choice Act (S. 1099)

            http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=Healthcare

            And the FRAUD Oh the Fraud within the Bureaucracy , oh
            could it be because of the ACCESS not of the SICK , but of those who look to
            EXPLOIT the System for their Own personal WEALTH … thats WHY Government is
            NOT the BEST Choice for Quality and AFFORDABILITY !!!!!!!

            WATCH THIS AND LISTEN TO LEARN ABOUT THE WAY FRAUD WORKS !!!!!!

            http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news?ContentRecord_id=049035ca-d9e4-4602-808a-5934e1c9388f

            BUT NONE OF THIS REID WAS INTERESTED IN BECAUSE HIS PHONE LINE WAS
            BUSY WITH CALLS FROM THE CRONIES FEEDING OFF THE TAXPAYERS !!!!!!!!!!

          • Motov

            I am a Parkinson’s Disease patient, I am legally disabled.
            I take 10 pills daily to deal with my symptoms.
            My medications wear off in 5 minutes flat meaning I go from feeling somewhat normal to a person with very nasty tremors, with freezing up problems. When I take my meds, I have to wait 45 minutes to become stable enough to do any task, and even then I move rather slow and I sometimes have to deal with the side effects of the medications, known as dyskinesia. (Best description I can give is I appear as if I drank large quantities of booze, minus the slurred speech, and the “buzz”) I can be rather klutzy. There is no cure for this. So the only job I am qualified for is to be a “Lab Rat” for this disease. I am currently looking for clinical trials in my area. I have no license to drive. Mainly because I cannot afford it.
            I ride a bicycle daily to combat this disease.
            I was diagnosed on January 16, 2003. Took 2 years to get on disability. It is impossible for me to hold down a job, because I cannot stand for long periods of time.
            Now Obozo wants me on his ACA. I simply cannot afford it. Believe me I wish I can work, but I cannot give an honest day’s work and/or Employers are too afraid of me when I am “off”.

          • nc

            HUNGRY, “”it is clear this law(AHC) is unworkable” YOUR WORDS!!
            IF IT DOES WORK YOU NEED TO GIVE YOUR HEART TO GOD BECAUSE YOUR A$$ BELONGS TO OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS!!
            You anti- Obama people have promised the American people that it CANNOT WORK! You will be wearing your stupidity like a bright red L, as in losers, if it does!!
            You people have staked your validity on it not working! You either kill it or die!
            One thing you need to remember is that Canada, England and Mass have it and their people are not in the streets screaming for it to go away! The polls of THOSE PEOPLE are quite favorable to their system!
            There is a whole ‘nuther” world out there! PLD is not the center of the universe!!

          • hungry4food

            HEY
            Tea Party…. YOU have been DEMONIZED for wanting the Government to Cut waste
            fraud and Cronyism , DEMONIZED as a Incompetent Organization ,,,,, ARE YOU
            GOING TO LET THEM GET AWAY WITH THAT LABEL ????? HELL NO , don’t let them dodge
            this Fraud and abuse that’s being allowed and has Grown wildly under This Obama
            Administration !!!!!

            Listen
            to Coburn he defends the Tea Party and goes further in describing the REAL
            Problems effecting our Nations economy and personal Liberties , while Senator
            Schumer just bashes and bashes and makes
            excuses and this is what people are tired of
            we the people don’t need any more excuses we need Solutions !!!!!!!

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFuZMd5KKEs&feature=c4-overview&list=UUVfmzzKSutzOyJIikyseNHg

          • hungry4food

            NC the reason why it won’t work is the Lawyers and Corrupted Judges listen to this 60 min show man !!!!!!! This is OBAMAS Badge of Honor man !!!!! its His Lawyer buddies who are gaming the system right under his nose and it will get worse with full tilt Obamacare !!!!!! Trillions more will be extracted from the working class and funneled into a part of socitiy and their Lawyers and courts and create the biggest One class social society ever in the USA and we know who they will vote for every time !!!!!

            I smell a RAT ,
            entitlements gone WILD with FRAUD !!!!!!!

            And couple the ANTI Growth Policies we see
            from these days of Over Environmentalism , cronyism it shows why we have NO
            JOBS in the USA !!!!

            http://www.activistpost.com/2013/10/the-epa-legally-controls-all-water-food.html

            http://www.forbes.com/sites/billfrezza/2013/10/15/the-international-monetary-fund-lays-the-groundwork-for-global-wealth-confiscation/

          • JeffH

            NC, the bottom line here is that you’re just an ignoramus…nothing more, nothing less!

        • Vis Fac

          The most terrifying words in the English language are: I’m from the government and I’m here to help.
          – Ronald Reagan

          To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

          You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est
          Semper-Fi

    • Vis Fac

      Yeah but the payment remains the same and usually after 60 months you don’t need to keep paying for the car ODUMBOCARE is FORCED indenturement !!!!

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

  • smknnjoe

    Anyone that enrolls in Obamacare through the Healthcare.gov website better enroll in Lifelock as well. That site is going to be a superhighway for identity thieves.

  • To Tell The Truth

    Barack Hussein Obama is the epitome of incompetence. If someone sent him out to screw up, he’d screw up on the way out. If this clown graduated from Harvard, then Harvard owes trillions in refunds to duped parents everywhere. Barry is the poster-boy for what NOT to do

    • Vis Fac

      ODUMBO is not incompetent he knows exactly what he’s doing his Marxist handlers have groomed him from the onset to achieve an end all the while filling the public with propaganda that erodes our morality questions reality and forces an ideology to ruin America. Read the Naked Communist all the steps have been laid out and most everyone(all the liberals) have drunk from the punchbowl.

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • JeffH

      That’s what happens when you get a Marxist “community organizer” to run the country(into the ground). He’s hapless, without a clue nor does he have the faintest idea on how to run anything more than, maybe, the floor of a basketball court or a golf cart.

  • True American

    Anything and EVERYTHING that Barack Obama forces upon The American People is of a Barack Obama Signature Threat unto ALL . The Corrupt , The Thieving , The Lying AND The Deceiving Barack Obama is a worshipper of himself and is after Total Selfish Gain . Barack Obama is like The Dust Of The Earth and it is NOW time to SHAKE HIM OFF . ” WE THE PEOPLE ” must NOW lean on Trusting OUR TRUE GOD And Only OUR TRUE GOD . ** AMEN !!! **

    • hungry4food

      The ACA is all about CONTROL and Extracting CASH out of the Economy making it harder for the economy to survive !!!!!

      This proves the point because ……

      You see , the Reid Ran Senator has NEVER ALLOWED THIS BILL TO
      COME TO THE SENATE FLOOR … EVER !!!!! And it makes way more sense than the
      ACA !!!!!

      Patients’ Choice Act (S. 1099)

      http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=Healthcare

      And the FRAUD Oh the Fraud within the Bureaucracy , oh
      could it be because of the ACCESS not of the SICK , but of those who look to
      EXPLOIT the System for their Own personal WEALTH … thats WHY Government is
      NOT the BEST Choice for Quality and AFFORDABILITY !!!!!!!

      WATCH THIS AND LISTEN TO LEARN ABOUT THE WAY FRAUD WORKS !!!!!!

      http://www.coburn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news?ContentRecord_id=049035ca-d9e4-4602-808a-5934e1c9388f

      BUT NONE OF THIS REID WAS INTERESTED IN BECAUSE HIS PHONE LINE WAS
      BUSY WITH CALLS FROM THE CRONIES FEEDING OFF THE TAXPAYERS !!!!!!!!!!

  • Bentrim

    Can we disconnect DC and float them out to the center of the Atlantic so they can rule themselves. Obummercare is killing America. The affordable care act in NOT affordable!!! It is depending on the young and affluent to support the poor and lazy. Unless it is repealed it WILL bankrupt the poor and make the rich richer. But then just maybe all those that are that are forced to part time jobs or forced out of work altogether can depend on the few left with jobs for their support!!! Already 11 states have more “dependents” than working folks. Yep finally understand it!!! We will all be supported by the government, no one will have to work. Each of our congress persons draw over 1 million for their staff and offices plus over 174,000 in “salary” and benefits, AND want NO part of Obummercare that THEY made law for the rest of us!!! They NEED to take the same medicine. MAYBE just maybe if enough people got together we could force them to work for minimum wage and live under Obummercare, and all the other laws they create. Then they just might understand how the rest of us survive, but I really doubt that, they just are too disconnected!!

    • fenix1

      And WE the People have to pay for their Haircuts and Gym. Something seriously WRONG here people!

  • annie

    In my time, I’ve witnessed some really ugly and horrifying governing by some very major morons in the White House and Congress. Yes, I saw LBJ at work and OMG what an evil moron he was. Then there was Jimmy Carter. The ONLY thing one can say about Jimmy is that at least he was a God Fearing Christian and he loved America. After that, Jimmy was as horrifically bad at governing than even FDR or Wilson was. But now, we have evil incarnate in the Oval Office. Yes, he is a satan among us and every single legislator in D.C. are running on complete fear of him. He and his ugly evil gang of thugs WANT single payer and they will destroy the entire country and all of her citizens to get their way. Those petulant evil spoiled brats are not being stopped and WHY?

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Jimmy Carter was not a God Fearing Christian and he hated America otherwise why was he so stupid and destructive. By their deeds you shall know them whether they are good or evil.

      • mark

        Lots of people are stupid and destructive – and don’t hate America. Take yourself for instance, Nadzieja.

        • Vigilant

          It’s a pity that you fit all three of the above charges.

    • NC

      Annie, it seems to me you have a case Democrat Phobia! Do you want a Republican slant on how well Democrat Presidents have done with our economy as compared to the Republicans since Hoover? Go to “Presidents and Prosperity” @forbes.com!
      You do know that the Forbes is the same Forbes that was several times a candidate for the Republican nomination for the presidency don’t you???????????????????? I dare say he would allow any study in HIS magazine that would lie about his party!! Take a look at what those “evil Democrats” have done with the economy as compared to the saintly Repugnuts!! Got the guts to go look???
      While you are doing some research go to THE SITE OF “BULLS BEARS DONKEYS AND ELEPHANTS” AND SEE WHAT THE STOCK MARKET HAS DONE UNDER THE DEMOCRATS AS COMPARED TO THE REPUBLICANS!! AMAZING NUMBERS!!! GOT THE GUTS TO GO LOOK???????? I WILL ALSO TAKE THE DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP IN THE WORLD WARS AS COMPARED TO THE bush-cheney RECORD IN THEIR WARS!!!!!
      DENIAL IS BAD! IT CAUSES IGNORANCE TO EAT YOUR HEAD OFF!!

      • Vis Fac

        Seems as tho you have a case of wanna be socialism. You have this idea that under socialism you will get your piece of the pie taken from others. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but with socialism someone is going to get something but that someone is NOT going to be you!!!

        If there’s anyone who needs to see this it’s YOU!!!!!

        http://vimeo.com/63749370
        Agenda Grinding America Down

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

      • Vigilant

        Ha! Ha! NC, you’ve been slapped down so many times on the bogus “Bulls, Bears, Donkeys and Elephants” canard that now you resort to shouting, as if you can win arguments by decibel level.

        Denial is indeed bad, my sophomoric fool.

        OK, one more time. The idiotic contention on that statistical “analysis” is based on a number of faulty assumptions, and leaves out more relevant factors than it actually uses. It is a classic case of lying with statistics, intended to sway simple minds like yours into believing the propaganda without question.

        Here are the faulty assumptions:

        It assumes that the president has magical powers to wave a wand and thereby affect the stock market. He has not. A myriad of factors affect the stock market in a capitalist economy, which are beyond the capacity of a president to affect. In the government-managed economy YOU would like to see, the chief executive would have much greater powers to effect change. Currently he has not.

        It assumes that changes in economic direction due to administration policies have immediate or short term effects on the stock market. They do not. The economy is grindingly slow in responding to policy changes by the government. Thus, Clinton rode on the successes of Reaganomics, which brought us the longest sustained period of business prosperity in US history.

        It tries to convey the glaringly false assumption that the health of the stock market is a barometer of the nation’s economic health in general. It is not. By your reckoning, the rebound of the markets under Obama would point to a booming period of prosperity. How’s that working for you? Tell your tale to the unemployed, the record numbers of those on food stamps and welfare recipients.

        It goes wildly wrong in discarding one of the most important factors, the party which is dominant in Congress. Your “statistics” would “prove” something quite different than you assert if that influence were taken into account.

        I know the above is difficult for you to understand. Get a dictionary, a tutor and psychological help to move beyond your one-dimensional “true believer” mind. Perhaps you might take a course in basic macroeconomics before you shoot your mouth off and once again look the idiot. You are fooling no one with a normal intelligence

        • JeffH

          Vigilant, LMAO!

          NC is the poster boy for “you can’t fix stupid”!

      • Bill

        NC,
        So, it is all Bushes fault. That’s a very dumb remark

    • Bill

      Good analogy, Annie
      Starve the beast and don’t paticipate

  • MommyK1

    With all due respect; I live in Mass. My husband is employed by his own corporation. We are in a pool of small businesses and we pay $1200 a MONTH for a premium with a $6000 deductible for a family of 4. Neighborhood Health…Terrible plan but the one we could best afford. Used to have Harvard pilgrim; in 2001 the plan cost us $600 per month. In 2006; same plan (when “romneycare) went into effect here in MASS) we paid $1200 for that same plan. In 2010 the cost of that plan a MONTH wa s$1700 and we couldn’t afford it; when the economy fell apart. That plan today? $2200. Mandated care DOES NOT make care more affordable.

    • hungry4food

      I smell a RAT , entitlements gone WILD with FRAUD !!!!!!!

      • Vis Fac

        These same ambulance chasing trial attorneys are most responsible for the high cost of medical care as well.These trial lawyers asking for (and getting) astronomical awards for a hang nail.

        Workers Comp has set rates for disability cases why not for the medical field as well?

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

  • mark

    So the Disqus comment system on this site has as many glitches as the Affordable Care Act site. And no one but me sees the beautiful irony of this? You are condemning the federal government’s computer screw-ups, while asking for patience for you own. Too funny!

    • Vigilant

      “So the Disqus comment system on this site has as many glitches as the Affordable Care Act site.”

      That’s called “prevarication,” Mr. Propaganda.

      • mark

        Actually, Mr. Livingston has provided a large section at the end of his article explaining the problems with Disqus and how PLD is working with them to correct the glitches. Sound a lot like the Affordable Care Act problems to me. Both will no doubt be solved in short order.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Wasn’t the government able to hire the wisdom of the ages since they had an unlimited budget?
          So your snot nose comment just says that you are a snot nose.

          • mark

            Actually I don’t have a cold this morning, though I did have one a couple of months ago.

          • Vigilant

            She wasn’t addressing your physical condition; she was addressing your stage of mental development.

          • Bill

            Hi Nad,
            They hired Michelle Obamas school buddy to do the website. They need to keep the graft among friends

        • Vigilant

          DUH, I read Mr. Livingston’s comments about DISQUS, and your weak comparison of the few glitches in DISQUS versus the absolute debacle of the Obamacare website carries no water.

          If DISQUS had as many glitches we wouldn’t even be here posting comments. I repeat, “that’s called “prevarication,” Mr. Propaganda.”

          • mark

            Your phrasing of Obama Care websites as “an absolute debacle” is also an exaggeration, Vigilant

          • Vigilant

            Oh, is it? Guess you haven’t tried to log on, have you?

          • JeffH

            DOH!

          • Hey you

            Yeah; it’s worse than that.

          • shawnfahrer

            It is (as we enter the first month of activity on healthcare.gov) more than an “absolute debacle”– it is:
            1) A means by which more and more Americans are having insurance coverage shifted from the private sector (due to the Obamacare mandates for coverage types) to the public sector (AKA Medicaid). It is no secret NOW that vast majorities of people enrolling at healthcare.gov are being found eligible for Medicaid (is it through true poverty, the increases in acceptable maximum income, or failure to properly state family income, i.e., FRAUD– that is leading to this somewhat surprising result?)
            2) That’s only for those who have been able to apply: what about the MILLIONS AND MILLIONS who may wish to apply but CAN’T GET THROUGH???? Many of these people maybe among those whose coverage has been cancelled (I assume effective Jan 1, 2014, although no one has said so) — thus one reason for the increasing clamor to DELAY the fines for non-participation along with
            3) Double digit percentage increases in premium costs for those forced to switch to an exchange based plan (and are ineligible for Medicaid and/or subsidies). While most of these people may be richer than you or I, many of them may be squeezed even more than those who are poorer (since the government would pay those increases for them). That may not necessarily be “fair” under any circumstance.
            4) If this doesn’t qualify as an “absolute debacle”, based on the above points, it appears to qualify as at least “a debacle”, if not an absolute debacle…..

          • JeffH

            V, did you really think mark, mark, mark, wouldn’t make that comparison? Of course not. :)

            Sure, I think we all know DISQUS has sucked at times…but it works and I’m quite sure Bob Livingston didn’t spend $600 million plus of taxpayer dollars and three years to set up DISQUS…and the best part is that there is no government mandates or fines and no one is forced to use DISQUS at PLD.

            It’s all about free choice…something that ignorant progressives like mark, mark, mark do not embrace and know nothing about.

          • shawnfahrer

            I don’t think Mr. Livingston has any connections to DISQUS (other than as the creator of this comment section). DISQUS has far more blogs that it has set up than the one on personalliberty.com — DISQUS is more like godaddy.com that sets up a website than Bob’s personal intellectual property…. DISQUS set it up for him — he does not own or set up DISQUS. See their “about” page for more at http://www.disqus.com/about/. While I agree with the last part of the comment (no one is forced, etc.), I’m just pointing out that Bob has no control over DISQUS (nor they over him, other than they are contractually obligated to set up the comment area in an acceptable manner). Just FYI….

    • ProfElwood

      The Disqus system is allowing all comments, but not attributing a few to the right person. That’s a real “glitch”.

      Healthcare.gov is unable to perform its most basic functions for all but a few people. That’s called a “crash”. The degree of failure makes a big difference.

      Also, there’s some very real consequences to that site’s failure, being as several million people need to be signed up by April (previously February, before the administration “clarified” an extra 6 weeks) or the entire scheme collapses. If they don’t sucker, er, convince enough young and healthy people to sign up, then the whole insurance scheme crumbles.

      …. which might be a good thing ;)

    • Bill

      Mark,
      You seem to be adding your comments just fine. Where are you seeing any glitches in the Disqus system?

  • KG

    The failure of the website started when the so-called ‘Public Option” was taken off the table. By going along with the Republicans on their point, the seeds of discontent were sown. The Republicans wanted to prevent another Democratic Victory like Medicare and did their utmost to ensure an embarrassment.

    Contractors only want two kinds of contracts – Government contracts and BIG Government contracts. Just ask the morally-challenged management of Haliburton.

    • red neck

      While the republicans are nothing but a dog-n-phony show your continuous reference to their failures while you applaud the democrats shows that you are totally uneducated…. The single payer was and is the plan all along, even the republicans want it.

      • KG

        Yes, because THAT is the only way it will work! We ‘Liberals’ have been telling you dopes that since Roosevelt!

        The real goal is Medicare for all.

        • Vigilant

          Correction: the real goal is slavery for all.

    • Vigilant

      KG, I have trouble wondering if you’re real sometimes. Blaming Repubs for the website screw up? You’re daft.

      The failure of the website was caused by failures to exhaustively test the software prior to use and because the government requires the user to provide all personal information prior to giving you the quote.

      Then again, it’s probably all Bush’s fault.

      • shawnfahrer

        See my above reply — which I’ll restate here: “…The allowance of CGI Federal as an acceptable bidder for
        government contracts is (at least indirectly) Bush 43’s fault (since
        they were put on the acceptable bidder list in 2004 or 2005, during HIS
        PRESIDENCY, after they bought into the US market through acquiring US
        firms to do so)….” Unfortunately, THE TRUTH HURTS….

    • Bill

      Kg,
      So you are saying that Obamacare’s failure is all the republicans fault?
      Why don’t you take it one step further and say that it is all Bush’s fault

      • shawnfahrer

        No — the allowance of CGI Federal as an acceptable bidder for government contracts is (at least indirectly) Bush 43’s fault (since they were put on the acceptable bidder list in 2004 or 2005, during HIS PRESIDENCY, after they bought into the US market through acquiring US firms to do so)….

      • KG

        Actually. ‘W” is responsible for the health of thousands of soldiers who were maimed, burned, and dismembered which will cost America Billions of dollars – just like the Vietnam veterans.

    • hippybiker

      OH, I see, KG. It’s OK when the company that Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is an executive for, wins a no bid contract for a website that doesn’t work? You are either a flaming hypocrite, or very ignorant. Which is it? Inquiring minds would really like to know.

      • Vigilant

        He’s all of the above, and more.

    • Vis Fac

      KGB You have been played plain and simple just like it is laid out in the Marxist/Socialist/Communist Manifesto You are another one who really needs to see this.

      http://vimeo.com/63749370
      Agenda Grinding America Down

      You might just learn something.

      All this time the socialist elite have been telling you that you are going to get a piece of the pie taken from someone else. With Socialism somebody is going to get something but sadly that someone will NOT be you.

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • speedle24

      Have you lost your mind Karl? The public option has absolutely nothing to do with the web site failure. The “public option” was never even part of the equation. Had it been, are you naive enough to aver that an additonal set of circumstances would have made the software “easier” to develop?
      You are right (in a way) regarding the kind of contracts that most large companies prefer, which in turn proves the error of your philosophy. Of course large companies want large government contracts simply because the government is “easy money” with little emphasis on quality, support or customer service. In short, the bureaucracy can never manage anything economically.

    • Frank Kahn

      Actually, the failure of the website (internet software) is the result of incompetence by the software engineering team. In modern software development we use coding to testing methodology. This means that you create the test criteria first, then you write code that passes the criteria. Every section is modular (it stands on its own), and processes a defined set of data, to produce a specific set of information. In object oriented design, this is highly adaptive to different types of data, but is still easily contained and controlled. If the software engineering team had properly researched, and defined the development requirements, the process of building and testing the final product would have been efficient and effective. In fact, adding, or subtracting, a particular module / aspect of the product would not significantly affect the overall performance of the whole, nor would it have caused a failure of other modules.

      By the time I was a sophomore, in software engineering, I would have received an F for project design for any number of the outrageous errors in the design and coding of this project. And, in fact, my capstone project, required to complete my degree, was an internet based health care service application. It contained much of the same technology and data sharing requirements, from remote servers, as this obamacare system. It took our team of 6, 3 months from the original request for service statement to implementation. It was not perfect, but it did operate properly, within the design specifications given. Now, while I am not saying that our project was as complex as obamacare, I am saying that the final product was designed and tested to operate in real time in a real life situation. It is what is expected of a software engineering team. That is where the problem lies, with the PPACA website, it did not meet the expected performance criteria.

  • red neck

    People…. You need to realize that obama’s lies are the plan form the word go.

  • James Reitz

    The President is just too arrogant and stupid to see that his signature healthcare law is an absolute failure.

  • alboy5

    An alternative for Bazuzu plan may be esurance.com a website that works.

  • WiSe GuY

    When you start with an incompetent idea, from an incompetent leader, you end up with a turd!

    • fahkir1

      It’s long past time to flush.

      • shawnfahrer

        Don’t flush — a mind is a terrible thing to waste….

        • Motov

          In this case it wouldn’t even make good fertilizer, you would have to place it where all the other toxic waste goes

  • wheasonjr

    Sorry to say at best we have a con in the White House, at worst we have a person bent on the destruction of the beliefs that our forefathers fought for along with many of our relatives sense. For many peoples from other countries that are here they should remember that if they cam to America for a change I would think that the last thing they would want is to change America into what they cam from. Maybe we should take how our country is run seriously, you say you have, well evidently those that see it differently are more determined and dedicated to destroy us than we as a group are to save us. If you do not want a Hitler style government, to harsh, look at the laws that the Chancellor Hitler enacted and started under then explain it to me. This may be politically incorrect but I would say that most Political correctness violates my personal freedoms and beliefs in God.

  • red neck

    Interesting that the only communist loon coming out on this article is KG…. I wonder where the rest of the trolls are?….

  • Al Chemist

    Obama is not an evil genius trying to destroy this once great Republic. He is an incompetent liberal/progressive trying to destroy this once great Republic.

    • Bill

      Good analogy, Al

    • JeffH

      Al, if I may make a small correction…
      He is an incompetent Marxist/communist/liberal/progressive (hybrid commie) community organizer being used to destroy this once great Republic.

    • Motov

      Evidence is simple, just take away his teleprompter, and watch him fumble for words.

  • Charlotte Juett

    I don’t believe that Obama is doing his own maneuvering in this. I believe that he is controlled by such masters as George Soros and as such is being guided in the destruction of the country.

    • mark

      Right evil geniuses never sleep and are always at work trying to destroy our country. Yawn.

      • Charlotte Juett

        That particular evil genius has ruined the economies of more countries than you can shake a stick at and is a wanted criminal in many of them.

        • Brandt4Prez

          Please expand. Thanks!!

          • Vigilant

            “On September 16, 1992, Black Wednesday, Soros’ fund sold short more than $10 billion in pounds, profiting from the UK government’s reluctance to either raise its interest rates to levels comparable to those of other European Exchange Rate Mechanism countries or to float its currency.

            “Finally, the UK withdrew from the European Exchange Rate Mechanism, devaluing the pound, earning Soros an estimated $1.1 billion. He was dubbed “the man who broke the Bank of England”. In 1997, the UK Treasury estimated the cost of Black Wednesday at £3.4 billion.” (Wikipedia)

            He may not have ruined an economy, but your leftist hero profited highly by badly hurting the economy of the UK. So much for his faux (and your) progressive distaste for capitalism.

          • shawnfahrer

            This shows Soros’ TRUE distaste for capitalism (not faux distaste) — he is merely showing that YOU can actually PROFIT through capitalism’s demise (piece, by piece, step by step, nation-state by nation-state). Can’t you understand that, (not so) “Vigilant”????

          • Vigilant

            You have an attitude problem, sonny. And a reading comprehension problem as well.

          • JeffH

            GUIDE TO THE GEORGE SOROS NETWORKS
            http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=589

            Special Report: George Soros: Godfather of the Left. Liberal billionaire trying to give U.S. a liberal society it can’t refuse.
            http://www.mrc.org/special-reports/special-report-george-soros-godfather-left

            Case Study: George Soros – “Soros’ greatest gains, however, have been destabilizing currencies on the global market. Time and time again, when a nation is in a monetary crisis, Soros is there to give the currency the last nudge, and then profit as it plummets. He
            bet against Asian currencies in 1997 and the peso in 1994. Perhaps his most brash move was taking on the Bank of England in September of 1992.”

            http://talkwisdom.blogspot.com/2008/10/soros-evil-financial-manipulator.html

      • Bill

        Mark, Have you signed up for Obamacare yet?

        • speedle24

          Ha Ha, Mark hasn’t signed up for anything Bill. He is merely a troll looking for relevance.

        • JeffH

          Progressive trolls are exempt!

    • FreedomFighter

      My family of 2 current healthcare plan has risen from approx. 6,000 per year premium to approx. 12,000 dollars a doubling of costs. I have spoken to several other friends in the area I live and they are incurring doubling of premiums for same coverage also.
      That is the cost of a small house payment, 2 car payments, that’s 6,000 dollars out of the economy, times how many in my state? This will eliminate my ability to spend on other products, Obamacare is going to destroy the economy
      Laus DeoSemper FI

      • Vis Fac

        I never had a mortgage payment higher than $300 I owned 6 houses and ZERO mortgage. I have since sold all but where I live as values have plummeted and insurance keeps rising. Not worth the hassle.

        To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

        You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est
        Semper-Fi

    • Vis Fac

      You Need to see this as it CONFIRMS what you’ve said to be correct!!!!

      http://vimeo.com/63749370
      Agenda Grinding America Down

      To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the wolf, hoping he will eat you last – but eat you he will.

      You don’t have to be a Marine to make a difference the only requirement is being truly patriotic and the willingness to back it up!!!

      Libertas inaestimabilis res est
      Semper-Fi

    • JeffH

      Soros isn’t directly controlling Obama.

      Soros has been controlling the progressive/socialistic narrative for years through his funding of so many organizations whose objectives are consistent with those of Soros himself. His flagship foundation is the Open Society Institute.

      Following is a sampling of the major agendas advanced by groups that Soros and OSI support financially. Listed under each category heading are a few OSI donees fitting that description.
      http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=589

      • macgyver1948

        JeffH… And how different is your Soros comment from the Tea Party and the Norquist Pledge totally controlling the majority of the GOP? We can both be right about this but it is just to what extend we are each right. We have major problems pure and simple anyway we choose to believe.

  • Karolyn

    What’s wrong with nurse practitioners? They are as good, if not better, than doctors (especially a lot of doctors).

    • Brandt4Prez

      Ya…. who needs doctors when we have nurses.

      Matter of fact, we should get Russel Brandt to run Obamacare.

      You blubbering idiot.

      • Karolyn

        And you certainly seem like a rude uncouth person who’s ready to attack somebody before he even knows what he’s talking about. Nurse Practitioners are not very far from being doctors and have Masters Degrees. Did you not know that? http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-nurse-practitioner.htm Even RNs are better than some doctors. If it weren’t for them, there would be a lot more doctor errors.

    • ProfElwood

      I certainly see nothing wrong with choices. If I personally trust doctors more, I can pay more for one. If I trust the nurse, I’m allowed to use a nurse. Why not?

    • Vigilant

      I agree 100%, and would trust a nurse over a doctor for most ailments.

      • Hey you

        Traditionally, women have been the givers of health related treatments. Men have only recently in the past few hundreds of years, taken over to change medical treatments into big business.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          So what is your point?

      • Motov

        When it comes to drawing blood nobody beats a phlebotomist.
        They stick people all day, I rarely feel them doing it, they hit my veins without bruising, and very rarely go through the vein.
        Nurses are a patient’s best friend, (I’ve done quite a few protocols)

      • Nadzieja Batki

        I wouldn’t. If I am sick I don’t want a longwinded emotional twaddley sympathy. I would rather have a calculated cold prognosis and a cure.

    • Chuckb

      Karolyn, I you have need of heart surgery, be sure to ask for a nurse practitioner, that;s probably what you’ll get anyway thru Barrycare..

      • Karolyn

        Anybody with a brain knows Nurse Practitioners can’t perform surgery.

        • Chuckb

          so how do you know then?

  • http://www.rt.com Alondra

    “11 And HAVE NO FELLOWSHIP with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather EXPOSE THEM. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are DONE BY THEM IN SECRET. 13 But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light.”

    This is another example of the WORKERS OF DARKNESS aka LIARS & DECEIVERS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eupEkeYOhj4

    • Jana

      I would use these scriptures concerning all of the underhanded things that Obama is doing and seeing that they are coming out. ie: all of the scandals that he keeps hoping will die, but they won’t and new ones keep popping up because of his groce inadequacies.

  • TIME

    My Dear Good People,
    “”Please”” watch the video posted here.
    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDYx6vtzagU
    If you still don’t get it, I have no words.
    Peace and Love,

  • WTS/JAY

    Obamacare will cause millions of Americans to lose their health insurance…

    Much of the attention lately concerning Obamacare has been focused on the complete failure of the government website to operate as promised, a failure that has prevented virtually everyone who has thus far tried from actually signing up through it. But according to House Speaker John Boehner, a much bigger and more serious problem is Obamacare itself, which he predicts will eventually result in more Americans losing their existing healthcare coverage than the number that will eventually sign up for the program, assuming the website ever actually becomes operational.

    During a recent press conference, Boehner tried to refocus the national conversation on Obamacare to the legislation itself, rather than the broken website, reminding the public that the legislation’s full enactment will be disastrous for the millions of Americans who currently have healthcare coverage that does not qualify under Obamacare’s terms. For these folks, Obamacare will result in them losing their existing coverage, which means they will be forced to either sign up on their state’s healthcare exchange for more expensive coverage or else pay the so-called “tax” for non-compliance.

    A recent Kaiser Health News report confirms Boehner’s predictions, explaining that hundreds of thousands of working Americans have already received notices from their employers that their insurers are canceling their policies. According to the report, some 300,000 previously insured individuals under Florida Blue and 160,000 under Kaiser Permanente in California have lost their coverage — and millions more people are set to lose their coverage in the coming months.

    “When you begin to look at these hundreds of thousands of people, I think what you’re going to see at the end of October are more Americans are going to lose their health insurance than are going to sign up at these exchanges,” explained Boehner to reporters. “This is a very serious problem, it’s affecting our economy, and it’s affecting the ability of the American people to find the jobs that will help them take care of themselves and their families.”

    Obamacare will eliminate freedom of choice in healthcare, including within the natural health communityThough a Republican, Boehner’s statements are actually non-partisan in terms of how they are playing out in reality. Hundreds of thousands of people are, indeed, losing their existing healthcare coverage as a result of Obamacare, and many of these people will be forced to purchase more expensive coverage. And many uninsured individuals, including those in the natural health community who may not even use conventional medicine because they adhere to natural, nutrition-based preventive medicine instead, will be forced to sign up for an expensive healthcare plan that will directly contradict their core beliefs about health.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/042689_Obamacare_health_insurance_freedom_of_choice.html#ixzz2j399F3hZ

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Remember the Good Old Days when we could just write the doctor a check and be done with it? In 1972, my wife had a Caesarian delivery for $400 out the door. We wrote a check and it was over.
    What will the Progressives “fix” for us next?