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Having Fun In The Fight For Freedom

April 22, 2011 by  

Having Fun In The Fight For Freedom

Are we having fun yet?

This is a question you never hear when people are discussing the fate of our country — or even arguing about which candidate deserves their vote. Frankly, I think that’s too bad. There are many reasons why I’m having more fun in the “fight for freedom” now than at any time in the past 60 years. I hope you are, too. If you’re not, I want to share some suggestions with you this week on ways you can have your cake and eat it, too. That is, how you can help your country and, at the same time, have a ball doing it.

But first, I need to give you an update on the plight of my suicidal cardinal. (For those of you who don’t know what I’m talking about, click here to read the issue of Straight Talk where I discussed the poor bird who was beating her brains out attacking my office window.)

First, the good news: She’s gone. I’m guessing her babies have been born and she’s so busy bringing them worms and other delights that she hasn’t had time to worry about some intruder in her territory. (The consensus of experts was that she thought her reflection in my window was an enemy that had to be driven away.)

Now, the bad news: Nothing my neighbors or I did made the slightest difference, with one exception. The various reflectors, life-sized hawk statues and other paraphernalia didn’t deter our attacking cardinals a whit. The only thing that helped, my neighbor Dean reports, was when he taped newspapers over the insides of his windows. But he got tired of living in a cave. When he took them down, his attacker returned.

But they’re gone now, I’m delighted to report. So let’s bid this bird-brained story adieu, at least until this time next year. And get back to what’s really important — having fun in the fight for freedom.

I was going to begin today’s column with a brief history of the times when it was hard to be optimistic about the direction our country was going. There was our sad abandonment of the Hungarian freedom fighters in 1956, followed by the betrayals and deceit that enabled Fidel Castro to create a communist dictatorship in Cuba in 1959.

How about the dark despair of 1964, with the total rout of Barry Goldwater in that year’s presidential election? Or when the battle for civil rights led to civil riots and the burning of several cities?

Or maybe the worst time of all, when we sent our soldiers to fight and die in a no-win war in Vietnam. The heated and hate-filled demonstrations it led to here at home are something I will never forget.

And all the while, government at every level grew bigger, more intrusive and far more expensive. Our taxes went up and up. So did prices, while our confidence in the future plummeted. For many years, I wasn’t sure that anything I did or any group I supported would help turn the tide.

But as the kids like to say, that was then and this is now. Last November we saw the biggest electoral turnaround I have ever witnessed. And it wasn’t just at the national level. In State after State, a whole new breed of politicians got elected. As a result, some amazing things are happening at the State level, too — including concerted efforts to defeat Obamacare. Heck, Utah is even on the cusp of making gold and silver money!

If you’re not savoring the thrill of some of these victories, it can only be because you’re sitting at home worrying about things rather than going out, meeting with your fellow patriots and celebrating some of these victories.

So let me begin by pointing out the obvious: The best way to feel like a winner is to back one. How many of your candidates were victorious five months ago? If you can’t brag about several newbies you helped get elected, then you need to get some new candidates, my friend.

For the next go-around, pick out half-a-dozen candidates who would really bring a breath of fresh air to Washington and/or your State capital. Send them a few bucks. Get some of their campaign literature. Tell your friends and neighbors about them. Then send them some more money.

And don’t limit yourself to candidates you can actually vote for. Last fall, I made donations to candidates all over the place — even Nancy Pelosi’s opponent in San Francisco. Yes, I knew John Dennis didn’t stand a chance of defeating her. But it sure felt good trying!

Next to supporting some winners (and even some valiant losers), the next best thing you can do is meet with people who think like you do. In the past, this wasn’t easy. The mainstream media tried for decades to make every Constitutionalist feel like he or she was totally alone. That there was no one else anywhere who agreed with us about anything. We were kooks and crazies and our numbers were too small to matter.

Well, guess what? That was nothing but a huge lie, and an even bigger bluff.
Starting in the 1970s and 1980s, technology brought their house of cards tumbling down. A handful of independent publications started it all. Then talk radio caught on big time. And guess who the most popular hosts were? The guys (and a few gals) on the right with a strongly alternative point of view.

Then the Internet brought millions of us together. Finding sympathetic allies, noble causes, worthy candidates and great organizations are now just a few keystrokes away. Want to join up with Tea Party patriots in your area? Click on www.teapartypatriots.com.

Want to see an amazing program to bring the conservative message to liberal college campuses? Go to www.leadershipinstitute.org and click on their “Campus.” While there, check out their other wonderful training programs for young activists.

Want to help bring some great speakers to some leftwing colleges? Check out Young America’s Foundation at www.yaf.org. Oh, and send them a few bucks to help maintain Ronald Reagan’s “ranch in the sky” — the Western White House at Rancho del Cielo, high above Santa Barbara, Calif. I’m proud to have played a small part in helping to turn Ron and Nancy’s favorite home into a meeting place for Americanists.

Do you want to meet with 3,000 aroused patriots who are determined to do something in the fight for freedom? Then make plans to attend FreedomFest in Las Vegas, Nev., this July 13 through 16. I’ll be one of the emcees for what promises to be a truly extraordinary gathering. There will be more than 100 speakers and 300 exhibitors, so you’re guaranteed to find several people and programs with whom you’ll feel simpatico.

I don’t have space today to tell you all the reasons that I believe is FreedomFest is the one event you should plan to attend this year if you can. But don’t take my word for it; go to http://www.freedomfest.com/promo_pl.htm and see for yourself.

By the way, when you register, please tell Tami Holland that you’re a Straight Talk reader. That way, two very nice things will happen: One, I’ll make sure you have a chance to join me at a special session at FreedomFest, just for Straight Talk readers and their friends.

And two, the nice folks who publish Personal Liberty Digest™ will send you an additional bonus — a free copy of Bob Livingston’s newly released book, The Great Recession Handbook, Survival Strategies For Trying Times (a $40 value).  All you have to do to claim your free book is email your confirmation showing you are registered to attend FreedomFest, along with your mailing address to offers@personalliberty.com. We’ll drop a copy in the mail for you right away.

So please call Tami Holland at 1-866-266-5101 to reserve your seats at FreedomFest 2011. You’ll have a great time, I promise. And you’ll come away even more convinced than you are now that we’re going to win the fight for freedom.

See you this July.

Until then, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • Vigilant

    “The mainstream media tried for decades to make every Constitutionalist feel like he or she was totally alone. That there was no one else anywhere who agreed with us about anything. We were kooks and crazies and our numbers were too small to matter.”

    And now the leftists politicians and Dept. of Homeland Security have taken over the media’s job in trying to paint anyone as an extremist or potential domestic terrorist who believes in the Constitutional restrictions on Federal Government power.

    • Lastmanstanding

      Oooohhhhh…times are a chaaaaangiiiing…

      • EddieW

        The GOP and RNC has made it impossible to donate to them, as they sponsor people who are RINO’s! I think our money is better spent on supporting particular candidates, and also against other candidates, than giving the money to Republican Party, and support their own BIG government plans!!! And..YES they have them! CPAC supports homo movement, so I will donate to NO organization who supports Cpac!!
        W@e need Smaller Government, and the restoration of the Constitution!!! Those against this, Republican or Democrat, need to be weeded out!!!

        • Lastmanstanding

          EW. I believe Vigilant is a libertarian. I am a conservative libertarian that was formerly a conservative republican.

          I ultimately believe that a day will come where only a handful of our elected officials (both demos and repubics) will be able to stand in the sunlight.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Lastmanstanding,
            I think that day is already here! About all of them are bloodsuckers!!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Its because they are all made up of lawyers. Money is their God, and they dont care about right and wrong, and whats good for the country. They care about getting all they can get and riding off into the sunset. But once they get entrenched in Washington, like Dick Lugar, they realize how much money special interest groups shove into their pockets, then they never go away. Until now. Now we have woken up, and thanks to conservative talk radio, and other ventures far away from the liberal press and newspapers, we realize that we have the power as a people, and that these guys work for us. And if they dont do the job for the people, they are gone, as witness by over 60 of them being sent to the curb in 2010. More are too follow. And as of now, I still am a Republican, but I will vote lifers like Dick Lugar to the curb, as he has done nothing but get in bed with special interest groups. He is a RINO, and he needs to go, and I will vote against him. All these career politicians who have not produced, John McCain being one of them, need to go. Its a shame what illegal immigration has done to Arizona, and where was McCain these last 20 years? Watching it. Just watching it. He needs to go also. Its time for a change of the guard.

          • 45caliber

            I would love to see an investigation into the habits and backgrounds of all federal politicians. I suspect that a majority of them would be found with crimes that would allow long jail times for them.

        • Allen in reality

          Hey EddieW! There once lived a guy in LA that quoted those same sentiments before he died of cancer. But he was right, God Rest
          Terry Anderson. His intro words to his show was: “Stupid people of America! If you aint mad, you ain’t payin’ attention!” Good post!

    • Carlucci

      Well, we can always push back. People who are pissed can be very powerful, especially in large numbers. During the French Revolution, the peasantry WALKED in the middle of the night from Paris to the palace of Versailles – that’s about a 30 mile trek. When they saw the opulence of the palace (and it is amazing), they became even more angry.

      Like the article says, there are tons of like minded people like us out there. Every time I read comments on this blog, I am encouraged by the opinions of many of the posters. If liberty loving people weren’t making an impact, the lame stream media and dim wits from the “other side” wouldn’t consider us a threat.

      • DaveH

        “If liberty loving people ……”
        Good point, Carlucci.

      • Jay

        And they do consider us a threat, that is why they have doubled up their efforts to project a perception that there are not that many of us, liberty loving people!

        • JC

          And or that we’re all whacko red necks! LOL

          • 45caliber

            You may laugh at rednecks, but I’ll pick one to back me in a fight quicker than I would just about any other group I can think of.

          • mark

            REDnecks are RACIST… The truth is that the conservative movement would love to get rid of the Civil Rights Laws. The Conservative movement is a club for the white male who know that his time is about it. Demograhics favor the blacks and hispanics. The white male racist conservaive is now in the minority and will do everything he can do to stay in power and deny the non-whites social justice!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          And that is why they want to shut down conservative talk radio, because they dont want the people to hear any other views other that their left wing liberal lies. We arent having that.

          • 45caliber

            I agree. They have TV and they have most of the newspapers, and they have much of the main stream radio. They just want the rest of it. And, further, they want to shut down groups like this one on internet.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Roght on, roght on, roght on Carlucci….

      • Al Sieber

        Good one Carlucci, and JC, I must be one of those freedom loving “Red Necks”.

        • JC

          Hey Al, no matter how the latte set has bastardized and twisted the term red neck (and many others) I’m proud to be considered one.
          If “RedNeck” is one who, has a sunburned neck from working outdoors,
          color me a red neck. If it means one who is not afraid to get his hands dirty and actually produce something, then I’m a red neck and proud of it. If it is a historical reference to that group of Scots who fought on the side of the Confederacy and wore red scarves to identify each other…again, call me a red neck and I’m proud of it.

          Tell you one thing for sure, I’d rather be a sharp shooting red neck that one of those pansy latte lickers who pees when they see a spider. LOL ;)

          • Jay

            JC, according to your definition, I’m a total redneck and proud of it!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I guess that makes me a redneck also. And Im proud of it.

    • Lennyph

      I am just going to cling to my religion and guns.

      • 45caliber

        Count me in.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    It is true that we have made strides in the right direction and we should celebrate these victories. When things are not going so good, I try to remember to count my blessings. Then I realize things could be much worse. We do need to stick together and we do need to pray that God will help us. He really is the only thing we have left.

    • Lastmanstanding

      “the laws of nature are the laws of God, whose authority can be superseded by no power on earth.” guess who?

      That is what is coming to pass.

      • rufus

        are you talking quantum mechanics?

    • JC

      We need to do more than stick together and pray. We need to be representative of a superior and opposite force.

      • Lastmanstanding

        JC…good point. Our property and our guns is my “line in the sand.”

        I’m confident that 10′s of millions of other feel the same way…and they know it. Why do you think that they keep chipping away and sneaking around.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Lastmanstanding,
          If you own shotguns I hope there is nothing tactical about them!! The ATF is considering going after all tactical shotguns which means they can name any feature they want “Tactical” and if your gun has that feature, they will try to confiscate it! All of us need to contact our reps and make them understand in no uncertain terms if they allow this they will be gone after the next vote!!

          • JC

            Comments to the BATFE may be submitted by e-mail to: shotgunstudy@atf.gov
            or by fax to (202) 648-9601, and must be received by May 1, 2011. Faxed comments may not exceed 5 pages. All comments must include name and mailing address.

          • DaveH

            Nothing like making their job easier, JC.

          • 45caliber

            I’ve already done it. What I really dislike about their appraisal is that they insist that since these shotguns do not have a “sporting” need, they should be banned. I don’t want one for a sporting need. I want it for self defense.

        • American Patriot

          Let the bastards chip away. Our Beautiful Constitution and our Bill Of Rights will always “ALWAYS” be in the hearts and minds of Freedom and Liberty loving Americans.

          • JC

            Until the last one of us they can find is sent to the FEMA Camps that is…
            Never give up your right to keep and bear.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            When they pry our dead fingers off of the trigger.

  • Bob

    We have made strides, but remember that the indoctrination camps (fka “schools”) are producing millions of brainwashed, lieberal drones every year. Unless conservatives wrest control of these indoctrination camps and return them back to their proper role of educating children, we are doomed not only politically, but socially and economically as well as these lieberal drones drag America down the toilet. We also need to demand that the media return to its proper role as the watchdog (rather than the lapdog) of government. Additionally, we need to realize that maobama is just the puss leaking from the infection and getting rid of him doesn’t cure the disease, it just removes a sympton. We need to reform America from the bottom up as well as from the top down. This will be difficult to accomplish because we conservatives are the productive and responsible workers who can’t just take off and go to a demonstration. It will also be difficult because the democrats can always call on their fifth column of traitors to commit acts of intimidation and violence against peaceful conservatives. The question is: are we really committed to all this?

    • Vigilant

      Good post Bob.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Bob,
      This is why ALL parents need to get involved in their childrens education!!! Find out what they are teaching them and correct what is wrong!!

      • Robert Smith

        What was very wrong was that “intelligent design” garbage. Thank goodness those creeps were defeated in Dover, PA. Fortunately I didn’t have much to worry about. The kids were mocking them.

        I’d also like to see more age appropriate sex education in schools too.

        Rob

        • Jay

          The intelligent design theory is not dead and will never be dead! It is being taught to children who are home-schooled, they are also being taught Godly principals that are no longer taught in the socialist and homosexual education system, and there are millions of kids who are home-schooled. Behold, the new patriotic movement, you phallus worshiping baboon!

          • rufus

            I attend catholic school. Evolution was taught not intelligent design. I sent my son to catholic school and evolution is still taught. I gather that the home schoolers don’t teach their children evolution. How about physics? Newton’s or Einstein”s theory of gravity? QED? Astronomy? Chemistry? Geology?

          • Patty

            Rufus-The stats are coming in as that home schooled kids are indeed smarter. 30-40% smarter. They get better college entrance scores and at an earlier age.
            http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/701348/posts
            http://liberalforum.org/liberalforum/index.php?/topic/93123-home-schooled-kidsbetter-gradesmore-likely-to-graduate/

          • mark

            Are you also teaching your children to be RACISTS. You need inter action between children to be a balnced person. Not some REDNECK that teaches their children to be another REDNECK

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          We were created by God. We did not start as a fish, and say one day, “hey, Im getting out of this water” and stand up and walk. That is absurd. If its true, then why did other fish stay fish? And with all our science, if we evolved from something, it would have been proven long ago. Besides that, the moment I accepted Jesus Christ as my saviour, and asked Him to come into my life, the truth was revealed to me, and to all who have taken this step. We know without a doubt that we are God’s creation. And one day, all will realize it. You can think of yourself as someone who came out of bird poop on a rock, then the sun fermented it, and up you stood, but as for me, I know where I came from, and more important, where Im going. And sex education belongs at home, not in the school. That is absurd. I learned things in school that kids my age had no business knowing, and let me tell you, knowledge in the wrong hands is dangerous.

      • 45caliber

        Joe:

        I’ve always been interested in history – what happened vs. what they like to tell you happened.

        One girl I know told her teacher in high school that one item in the book was wrong. (It was.) The teacher told her, “This is the way that the government wants you to know how it happened. It doesn’t matter if it is right or wrong. This is the way I’m going to teach it and it WILL be on the test this way so you’d better learn it this way.”

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          But now days, the liberals are taking what was actual history, and re-writing it to read the way they think it should have happened. And its a damn dirty shame. If they keep having things their way on TV and in the written press, soon all history books will read as to what pillars of society democrats were and what lepers Republicans are, instead of the truth, that the liberal democrats have reduced this country to the lowly state it has become, where we have a broken social security system, giving money to illegal aliens who never paid into it. Thank the liberals. A system where our president buys lawyers for terrorists caught trying to kill us, to defend them. Thanks liberals. Where a group of men can go into the back room and institute a health care system that over 70 percent of the population doesnt want. Thanks liberals. Where a president can start a war in Libya without congressional approval. Thanks liberals. Where we can spend millions upon millions to elevate gays and promote that they are just ok and everyone should acknowledge them as normal. Thanks liberals. Where certain groups are treated differently than others, because of the color of their skin. Isnt that prejudice? Thanks liberals. Where the successful get punished and the failures get rewarded. Thanks liberals. This is, todays democratic party. And they cannot deny it, because all these things I listed, are the things they promote. How sad.

    • American Patriot

      You can bet Americans will be committed to this. Just let them push the Americans into a corner. And, see what happens. I have faith in the American people. We have always stood against Tyrants around the world. And, now we have them in our own country. We The People will stand up against them as well. And, the great news is that the goofy bastards in Washington DC have no idea just how many of us are against them. So, we continue to be quiet and calm watching and waiting for them to screw up yet again. But, we will be continue our peaceful and quiet resistance. Americans voted Bush Sr and Bush Jr into office to sell us out for this NEW WORLD ORDER/ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. And, now Billery Clinton along with Obama and his ass hats are moving us closer to what both sides have been itching for. A One World Government. Well! I got some news for them. They can all kiss our asses. Right?

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I think another thing we can all do, to voice our great displeasure with the liberal course of the left, who owns and runs the alphabet networks, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC and a few others, is to turn them off, and refuse to watch any programming on their stations, until their sponsors start pulling out and shutting them down, or they actually start reporting the truth, and quit pushing their evil little agenda on us. They should be reporting and investigating, and getting answers, concrete answers, on birth certificates, college papers, associations with domestic terrorists like Bill Ayers, and exposing the lies where Obama says he hardly knows the man, yet hatched his political life in the guys living room of his house, and served on board of directors with him. Where is the news on this? Rev. Wright, lets investigate the depth of the relationship. Nope. Another free pass. Associations with Tony Rezko. How deep are they? Where is the press. Why are you not doing full investigations of this stuff? We as a people, have the power, to cripple them, if not shut them down, if they dont start doing what they are supposed to do, and that is report the news, not twist an agenda to attack one side and present the other as spotless. Tune them out, and send a message. I have.

      • Patty

        Berberoni-Think about it. They will not get shut down. They will get bailed out and with our tax dollars.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Yeah, your probably right. They would be more like the welfare corporations like GM and Chrysler, as the libs always pick the failures to reward, and punish the successful.

    • 45caliber

      Bob: I agree.

      There was a big political contiversy here in Texas about the school books last fall. It was even on MSM tv. They were raising cain about the conservatives who controlled the state education board not going along with the liberals who wanted the change the books … although that wasn’t what was said. They insisted the conservatives wanted to change the books and they didn’t want the books changed.

      What was REALLY wanted was the Demos wanted to eliminate all references to Thomas Jefferson and his work on the Constitution. Instead, they wanted to “make room” to highlight the work of some character who invented the fireman’s hat, which to them was more important since it would eliminate a lot of lessons on the Constitution. The conservatives refused to do that.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        That is the liberal way. Point the fingers at others and place blame, all the while they are doing their own little agenda thing, to push the things they want and keep more and more into the dark about the truth. That is how they roll.

      • Vigilant

        Sorry to burst the bubble, but it was the Repubs on the board who had Jefferson removed.

        See http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/education/13texas.html

        “Cynthia Dunbar, a lawyer from Richmond who is a strict constitutionalist and thinks the nation was founded on Christian beliefs, managed to cut Thomas Jefferson from a list of figures whose writings inspired revolutions in the late 18th century and 19th century, replacing him with St. Thomas Aquinas, John Calvin and William Blackstone. (Jefferson is not well liked among conservatives on the board because he coined the term “separation between church and state.”)

        “The Enlightenment was not the only philosophy on which these revolutions were based,” Ms. Dunbar said.”

  • newspooner

    Hey, Chip, I agree that there are some great advances in the logistics of the freedom cause. You mentioned several mechanisms that have given us some much-needed communication improvements among ourselves. I too am hopeful that we can win the battle. But let’s not forget that there are a lot of brainwashed people out there. Let’s not underestimate their numbers. I am sure we wll have friends and relatives among them. The Establishment Conspiracy is still in control. It is our job to work even harder to break that control. Spiritually uplifting gatherings (remember the wonderful New England Rally for God, Family, and Country that our friends Laurence Bunker and the McKinney family sponsored for years?) are great, but we need to be cautious about slipping into the “meet, eat, and retreat” mode and being diverted away from productive educational and activist efforts. I hope to see you at FreedomFest if I can arrange the time.

  • http://Verizon Bud G.

    Chip: I always thought the Blue Jay was the most aggressive among birds until I saw a Cardinal in my bird feeder attack the Blue Jay when he tried to land on the feeder. One attacked my window as well.

    Unfortunately, when considering the candidates, we have to look at who has the money and the intelligence to challenge an opponent in a debate.I see only two people that fit this category in the presidential arena to challenge Obama. My choice would be Mitt Romney but the person who could set his pants on fire is Donald Trump. The positive is he isn’t a retread. As far as a running mate, I like Adam West because he is an intelligent, take no prisoners type of personality and has a better grasp of the issues than probably all of the others being considered. He is new to Congress but I am sure he will rise quickly in recognition.

    • newspooner

      Mitt Romney promoted socialized medicine in Taxachusessets. Donald Trump tried to use Eminent Domain in Connecticut and New Jersey. They are both more of the same old nonsense that is part of the problem. Intead of getting conned into wasting your time on the Presidential election con game, get to know local candidates personally, then support those running for Congress and state legislature who truly favor lower taxes, less government, and more individual freedom.

      • Carlucci

        I agree. If we put our focus at the state level, it is a great way to build more momentum.

        • Bob

          Yes – we spend to much time acting as if electing a president is all we have to do. The fact is, America is rotting from the bottom up and we must reform governement from the bottom up.

      • Conservative at Birth

        That is why Herman, Michelle, and Sarah are much more attractive candidates for me.

        • DaveH

          I like Michele. When I see her on Judge Napolitano’s show, she doesn’t strike me as Libertarian, but what I do get from her interviews is a thinking person who is not afraid to change her mind if she sees the light. Unlike so many politicians who will stick stubbornly to their ideology, right or wrong. And I believe that she really has her heart in the right place, i.e. making America the powerhouse of Freedom that it once was.
          And she’s hot (lol).

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Hey Dave, how do you feel about former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson? He may be the Libertarian candidate for president.

        • Tom from Idaho

          I have to agree, ConservativeatBirth, but the biggest handicaps of that all that you mentioned is that: 1) they are women (Michelle, Sarah), sad but true in this “tolerant” world of ours, 2) the politics of personal destruction by the left has taken its toll on them (Sarah) and 3) they are not “household names” (Herman). You and I may know about them and what they stand for (and, yes, they’re all good) but the casual listener only ses the perceptions that I have just laid out, above. Do I think that they would do exactly what they would be elected to do? Very likely. Do I think that they could run rings around Obama in a debate? Absolutely. But, do I believe that they are electable? probably not. Perception is reality.

          • Vigilant

            Please remember that Obama was not a household name either, at this point.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Do not discount the fact they they are women, as you say. The womens vote can collect quite a clout you know, and do not be surprised to see many women on the supposed left side of the aisle, jump ship to the right if there is a qualified woman running. Im sure Bachman or Palin would garner quite a bit of that womans vote. Just as the black population voted at what, 90 percent for Obama because of the color of his skin, I would say do not discount the womens union, as Im sure at least 80 percent of them would stick together, and vote for a woman. Many have said they wouldnt, but I also before the election heard on interviews, many, many black citizens say they wouldnt vote for Obama because he was black. Well, over 90 percent makes me beg to differ on that one.

        • 45caliber

          Conservative: I agree.

      • Dan

        We must also require that our current congress move and perspective candidates pledge to remove the Federal Reserve (a privet bank) from its oversight and control of our country. Without this mandate America will continue its downward slop to becoming a third world country.

      • Bear

        Eminent Domain is used all the time to kick people out of their houses and confiscate land. In most cases, the land is taken at a vastly reduced value and given to the new owner or owners at an even lower cost. Thus eminant domain can be and is abused quite often. In some cases, however, it is necessary. Such was the case in Bellaire Texas many years ago when the city and county was wanting to widen Post Oak road and make it part of the freeway system loop around Houston going through Bellaire and Myerland. This case was different because it represented a need to better handle the traffic of a growing city and many of the residents of Bellaire whose homes were in the planning right of way were not at all cooperative about giving up their homes and relocating. Many had long been in their homes, had very large investments in their homes and were not about to give them up without a fight. The idea that the city and county could come in and tell them that they had to more was not acceptable. But, when the purpose if for the greater good of the community, you will not win. Everyone of those home owners did end up selling and getting out and they did so before the lands were claimed under Eminent Domain. They were smart to do so.

        • 45caliber

          If the land taken is used for a PUBLIC need, I dont’ have a real problem with it – although I do believe that they should try everything else first. BUT – when a town takes property because some business might pay more taxes or encourage more tourism, I do have a problem with it. Particularly when the company they sell the land to sits on it a couple of years and then puts the land and houses up for sale.

          The real problem with emminient domain is that they never want to pay actual costs. They always want to buy it cheaper than it is really worth – in many cases so cheap that the owners can’t buy another place close to what they lost with the money given them.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          And some play their cards right and profit from it. When they put a bypass highway in around here, they took a bunch of farmers fields by eminent domain, and one told them to dig all they wanted out of his land to build up the roadway, under the agreement they would put a pond in and stock it after they were done, which they pretty much will do anywhere. The result, the guy had a 28 acre pond, to which he divided up into four plots and sold them for over 100 grand each. And since he was about ready to retire from farming, it set him up good, plus he retained the rights to fish there whenever he wants. I have also known 2 other people, who purposely bought houses where they knew business development was coming, and although that wasnt imminent domain yet, but might have ended up being had they refused to sell, but they doubled their money from the developer who wanted and needed that last parcel of land for their development. So sometimes, it does work out.

      • American Patriot

        RON PAUL! he has a perfect voting record to keep or freedoms and liberty’s intact. And, Rand Paul is really shaking up the establishment there in Washington DC. They are but just a few that are fighting for “WE THE PEOPLE”. WE NEED THEM! So, STOP!! VOTING IN THE SAME LIKE MINDED PEOPLE. THE GOP/DEM are for the most part all the same. People please wake up.

        • 45caliber

          Rand Paul may make a viable candidate in the future but so far doesn’t have enough experience to know what is going on. Ron Paul is too old to put into office now – and a couple of his ideas are not ones I think we need for the US in today’s world. But he is an EXCELLENT Congressman – and I vote for him for that every election.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Bud G… We are in need of new blood, and the more I hear about Donald Trump, the more I like. He has blemishes on his record, but he isn’t making an effort to conceal them! There has only been one perfect man and He died on the cross for us. No candidate will come without baggage and issues. We will just have to decide if the issues are those that can be overlooked, or if we would have a problem with them. I just firmly believe we need someone who isn’t a career politician to smile and under his/her breathe say screw you when he is out of earshot. He doesn’t patronize people and he isn’t afraid to tackle the issues.

      • newspooner

        I would call a campaign contribution to socialist Senator Charles Schumer much more than a “blemish”. I would go so far as to insist it must be either extreme stupidity, a corrupt attempt at business “protection”, or deliberate treason.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I agree totally. That is nonsense to give money to an idiot like Shummer. That guy should be in jail anyways.

    • DaveH

      Argggg. Mitt Romney, Donald Trump? I can see why we are in the mess we’re in. Too many easily distracted people.
      Does it not mean anything to you that Romney sponsored the Massachusetts Health Care Bill? Or that Donald Trump is advocating the same mistakes of other military statists and trade protectionists of the past? Neither one of these guys is going to even come close to shrinking our Government. It will be Boehner redux.

      • Vigilant

        I’ve got to agree with you Dave.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Adam West? Is this the same Adam West that was Batman? Holy cow Batman. If so, Ill have to look into him. Never knew he was in politics, or anything about him, other than Batman.

      • mark

        Adam West is an UNCLE TOM!!!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          According to Jalen Rose, so is any basketball player that went to Duke that knows how to properly dress and pronounce words and get good grades, and become a success in life. Is that what you mean?

  • Merrillyn

    Love your artical. I sometimes have to remind myself to enjoy life while doing all that I can to take our country back. My husband and I are fortunate to be part of a wonderful tea party and I’m busier now with this effort than I was before I retired from my career as an attorney. I realize that what I’m doing now is the most important cause that I will ever be a part of, but I’m fighting the fight with an amazing group of intelligent and well informed people that I am so proud to be associated with and, as you noted, we do have a great time together while giving our all to the struggle! We’re working to save our freedom from an overreaching federal government as well as working to save our state and our community and we certainly have a lot of work ahead of us, but I’m confident that if we can survive the next election cycle and retain our freedoms, we won’t drop the ball again because, as the song says, “We ain’t goin’ away!”

  • http://n.cates@cox.net Norman F.

    Thanks for the column and all the good responses! There is one point that is missing in this discussion, though. All the eager young folks that we sent to Washton (generic spelling) are junior to the people who are causing all the problems. We need to get behind carefully vetted candidates who can defeat those people who consider themselves representatives of the federal government rather than the people who sent them there. Start with all the committee heads and subs and work down in seniority.
    Each state should pass a law limiting the number of terms members of Congress can serve. Most states have such laws limiting the number of terms for their legislators. The Constitution gives the states that right, stating only the length of their terms, then saying this: “The times, places and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof;” (Article 1, Section 4) It does go on to say that Congress can overturn the states, but it would be difficult to do with the alert electorate that we have now. Besides, the term limits for President gives us an argument. Think about it.

    • DaveH

      If we had Term Limits, one of the Greatest Freedom Fighters of our lifetimes wouldn’t still be in Congress (Ron Paul). Term Limits are a placebo. In fact as each mistakenly elected official became a lame-duck, he/she would no longer have anything to fear from the electorate. Think about those lame-duck Democrats last fall.
      There is no substitute for an educated electorate. Just blindly throwing new blood into the fray is not going to do the trick.
      We need to cast off the distractions (such as Term Limits) and focus on the real problems. There is only one Political Party that truly understands the kind of Freedom that our Founders (Jefferson, Madison, etc.) envisioned — The Libertarian Party. Instead of wasting energy on useless endeavors, spend that energy learning why the Libertarian Principles would bring our country back from the ashes:
      http://libertarianparty.org/

      • http://n.cates@cox.net Norman F.

        Dave: I really hate to ask this. Are you suggesting that we should keep all the members who care more for the Washington elite than they do for the country in power to protect one member? You are a reasonable man. Think about the damage that has been done to our country by the elites while Ron Paul (Whom I like even though he is a libertarian) has been in office.

        • DaveH

          Norman,
          I am suggesting that Term Limits are a waste of time. I’m suggesting that people should, instead of chasing fantasies, spend that time learning about real life politics. I’m suggesting that those “elites” of whom you speak will still be elites (but just have different names) under term limits. My suggestion has nothing to do with protecting one member and everything to do with putting more like Ron Paul in office instead of throwing them out of office just because they’ve been there too long.
          You like Ron Paul “even though” he is a Libertarian?
          What other party do you know who doesn’t want to micromanage your life choices? What other party do you know who expects Government people to abide by the same rules as Main Street Americans are expected to abide by? What other party do you know who doesn’t think your money is their money to spend as they please? What other party do you know who respects your intelligence enough to give you Freedom of Choice in the Marketplace, whether as a consumer or a businessman?
          Our Principles of Freedom are purer than those offered by any other Political Party.
          So what is it that you don’t like? Our Freedom for people to control their own bodies and property, as long as they don’t trespass on the bodies and property of others? Or do you dislike that we think the United States should not be the World’s Policemen; that we should only engage in Constitutional Wars against countries which have attacked us and otherwise butt out of their business?

          • http://n.cates@cox.net Norman F.

            Dave, I agree with most of what you say, with exceptions. But first; in 1988 I ran in the Republican primary for the House. There were six candidates. I finished 5th, just behind a proclaimed witch. The winner won largely on his claim that members stayed in power too long, and he would not serve more than eight years. He, just last week, announced that he would stand for re-election making 24 years in Congress. He is a good man and I like him, but he needs to be out of there. He has 4.5 million dollars in his campaign chest. Do you think he will lose? He is from my home town but redistricting has expanded his district to include larger cities. Do you think he will look out for us? That sounds like sour grapes, but it isn’t. I did the best I could in the time available, under the parameters prescribed, with the circumstances that existed, and the assets available. I have no complaints. But he has been there too long and needs to be defeated.
            Now as for the political parties. I was raised in a Democrat home but became a Republican as soon as I left home. I am now registered as “No party affiliation” and expect to remain so. My beef with the Libertarian Party is as you said the total freedom of personal action without consideration of the effect it would have on others. Many Libertarians believe that although you and Ron Paul don’t.

          • DaveH

            Norman,
            I am going to assume you are talking about vice-crimes. The facts are that they haven’t been stopped by Big Government anyway. Meanwhile Government uses those crimes as an excuse to trample our Constitutional rights.
            If people harm themselves, that is their business. If they harm others, then the Government would have a legitimate role. Almost all of the drug-related crimes, for instance, are a result of the illegality of the drugs. Very few users actually harm people. In fact, I believe that alcohol users cause more harm to others than drug users do. And you know what prohibition did for our country — brought the Mafia into existence, and turned decent people into criminals.
            Portugal decriminalized drugs and instead of the dire predictions of catastrophe by the do-gooders, they have done just fine. The vast majority of Portuguese citizens would not turn back the clock.
            Government has no business protecting us from ourselves. There should be no such thing as a victimless crime.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I kind of agree with Dave on this one. Im all for getting rid of career politicians, and their entrenchment with the special interest groups that seem to control most of them. However, if a good man or woman comes along, and totally represents the people, and governs fairly and does their jobs, I dont see why they should have their job taken from them, if the people want them. So I would say the answer isnt term limits, the answer is for people educate themselves as to what these people are doing, or not doing, when they come into office, and if they are just pulling a Dick Lugar or John McCain or Ted Kennedy, and just taking up space, vote them out. It is we the people that put them in there, and we the people that vote them out. They cant stay unless we let them. The proper answer is voter education, to make an informed decision on the candidates. Its easier to do that now, where as for quite awhile there, all we had was the liberal press glorifying their guy and demonizing the other guy. Its easier to get the truth now, and voters need to get educated.

          • 45caliber

            DaveH:

            I’m going to have to disagree with you on your statement that most drug users never turn to crime. Actually, most do sooner or later. One of the sheriffs in AZ has the lowest drug crime problem in the US. When asked several years ago why that was, he stated that he targetting the “occasional user”. He stated that if he could stop them by arrests, embarrassment, etc. he could stop a lot of crime later. He did.

            Occasional users become users. Sooner or later they will lose their jobs due to that or they will get to a point where the money coming in isn’t enough to handle bills and drugs too. Bills are ignored. Property (funiture, clothing, etc.) goes for a little more money. Families suffer. The user turns usually to selling next. This can cause a lot of problems, particularly if he doesn’t turn all the money over to his boss or skims the drugs. Then he turns to crime itself such as burglary, car theft, etc. And – sooner or later – he ends up in the big time if he isn’t stopped.

            Don’t believe it? Check why the government made such drugs illegal in the first place back in the early 1900′s. Too many families were starving or abandoned. Too many people were robbed or killed.

        • Vigilant

          Term limits do exist. They’re called “elections.”

          Forcing term limits simply thwarts the will of the people, if they wish to send the same jerk back to D.C.

          • Patty

            Vigilant-I agree with you to a point. I think that being able to vote someone out is in fact a term limit. The other flip side of the coin is that the voters are so dummied down that that is the reason there are congress people that serve more than 12 years. Just like everything else we seem to follow this way (all of those laws out there to protect ourselves from ourselves), we need to idiot proof the voters and install term limits.

  • sylviam

    I agree whole-heartedly, with all of you. I thought I would just see what a “Tea Party” was all about. I figured it would be just more POLITITIONS saying what they thought we wanted to hear, to get our vote, BOY WAS I EVER WRONG Thank GOD.
    I met some of the most wonderful people and true PATRIOTS.
    We were there til it ended, and now I have a fold up chair for me & my hubby. The people were so kind and polite, showing true southern hospitality, and to my surpise there was NO CLASS DISTINCTION shown. As the left so nastily put it WHITE RADICALS WITH NO EDUCATION BLAH–BLAH, CLINGING TO GOD AND GUNS, that statement has always made me laugh. I didn’t thing the LEFTIES had a sense of Humor. but we picked up all our trash put it in containers and left the places as clean if not cleaner than before we got there. I have a smallish plastic bag tied to my walker for that purpose. In other words I had one of the best times in my life at a TEA PARTY hopefully I will be at even more this year God willing, as CHIP would say keep some powder dry and will see YOU ALL THERE hopefully.
    GOD BLESS AMERICA

    • Thamera

      That’s awesome sylviam. I wish that more people who are so opposed to the tea party and believe the lies of the MSM would attend a tea party rally so they could witness first hand like yourself, what the tea party is all about.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      One of the strongest leaders of the Tea Party around here is a black man, who is extremely offended by the lefts attempt to label him as a white racist. He uses this quite often when addressing crowds, to expose the left for who they really are, and the fear they have of the truth.

  • Bert Cundle

    GUIDELINES FOR FREEDOM… FREEDOMS DEFENSES… Alone, FREEDOM WILL ERODE. With out CIVIL Protection, FREEDOM, is but a TARGET for Control FREEKS!

  • JC

    To all my freedom loving friends I just want to say, keep fighting the good fight.

    And to all the Liberals and Greens who pop in here because they didn’t get enough attention from their Mommies…

    Happy Earth Day!

    Let’s take a quick look at some of the whacko predictions made by the
    fear mongering “Save the Planet” crowd.

    In 1970, the year the event was founded: a new Ice Age (Newsweek); a world “eleven degrees colder by the year 2000″ (Kenneth Watt); by 1985 air pollution to reduce the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half (Life magazine); by 1995 between 75 and 85 percent of all species to be extinct (Earth Day founder Gaylord Nelson); mass starvation (Earth Day organizer Denis Hayes). Say: “Thank you, thank you, Earth Day! If those 20 million hippies hadn’t taken the day off work, we’d all be dead by now!”
    And most recently, the former next President of the United States
    with his “Inconvenient Truth” warning us of Global Warming and the “fact” that it is going to kill us all…

    Meanwhile the northern states and Canada are seeing record long winters and snow falls. So in order to be prepared for this cataclysmic global warming event, you had better be buying thermal underwear and good parka. Oh and keep your checkbook handy, they’ll need your money to fight off what nature herself is doing. ;)

    • Thamera

      haha love it Jay. I woke up to snow in my little corner of Idaho this morning and 21 degrees!

      • JC

        Thanks, I couldn’t resist. ;)

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I have noticed, since we had a cold fall, a heavy snow filled winter, and now it is almost May and its still having 43 degree days here, that Al Gore seems to have gone into hiding. Seems, this year it is colder everywhere. Should we all cry “ice age”? No, we, with a brain in our head, all know that weather is cyclical, and it gets warm and it gets cold, always has, and always will, until God brings an end to the earth. The left is so pompous they think of themselves above God, that they can change what He has ordained, that by His hand and His hand alone, He Himself will destroy earth by fire. Man cannot do it, it is not written that way. And Al Gore, your a lying little loser, just like Michael Moore and rest of the pathetic little men that have to lie to make themselves heard, because they bring nothing productive of value to the table. Therefore, you lefties are all a part of the problem, instead of pulling up your big girl panties, and being a part of the solution.

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    DavidH,
    I also like Michele Bachmann. I`m just not sure the country is
    ready for a women President. We can`t afford not to get this right.
    I believe this next election will either brake or make America. All
    we can do, is slow Obama down at this time.

    Socialism is a philosophy of FAILURE, and the gospel of ENVY,it`s
    inherent virtue is the equal sharing of MISERY.
    Sir Wintson Churchhill

  • http://charden@neo.rr.com Charles

    The one man who can save us from our own selves died for us to- day,
    is Jesus Christ and who on the 3rd day rose from the dead to lead
    us to salavation.

    HAPPY EASTER OUR LORD HASS RISSEN

    • Thamera

      Thank you. Happy Easter as well! Now if it would just stop snowing where I live! haha

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Thank you. George Washington said “It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God or the Bible”. Woodrow Wilson said “America was born a Christian nation, devoted to the elements of righteousness which are dreived fromt he revelations of the Holy Scriptures”. Calvin Coolidge said “Unless we cling to the things of the Spirit, all our material prosperity, overwhelmingly though it may appear, will turn to a barren scepter in our grasp.” Dwight Eisenhower said, “Without God, there can be no American form of government, nor an American way of life”. Harry Truman said “The fundamental basis of this nations law was give to Moses on the Mount. The fundament basics of our Bill of Rights comes from the teaching we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul. I dont think we emphasize that enough these days.”. Ronald Reagan said “If America ever ceases to be a nation under God, we will simply become a nation gone under”. And lastly, Barack Obama said “Ive said before that one of the great strengths of the United States is, although as I mentioned we have a very large Christian population, we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values.” Barack Obama can speak for himself, as I assure you, he does not speak for me, or our nation as a whole. And sadly, if it comes to be that he is ever correct, than just as Reagan said, we will become a nation gone under.

  • FreedomFighter

    =========
    Socialism is a philosophy of FAILURE, and the gospel of ENVY,it`s
    inherent virtue is the equal sharing of MISERY.
    Sir Wintson Churchhill
    =======================

    Amen.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Bob

      Sir Winston was quite a guy, one of the few admirable secular leaders of history.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Socialism works great, for those in control, until you run out of other peoples money.

  • Alden Wayne Dumas

    I’ve joined about all the Liberty sites available, I’m very concerned with the fact that most liberty sites are promoting the Republican agenda, when most Americans believe that the Republican and Demicrats are in the same Bed, Basically??

    Both Parties pretend to fight each other then make Back room deals, to which “We The People” …Suffer the consequenses…

    I’ve decided not to play the Demicrat and Republican, back and forth, keep the “People” confused game…..

    Why not promote the Libertarian Party instead if you want True Liberty? I’ve to join them, They promote Tru Liberty, Check them out at ….
    http://www.lp.org/

  • Alden Wayne Dumas

    Wow, I suffered a bad spelling hour here..
    Re-do

    I’ve joined about all the Liberty sites available, I’m very concerned with the fact that most liberty sites are promoting the Republican agenda, when most Americans believe that the Republican and Democrats are in the same Bed, Basically??

    Both Parties pretend to fight each other then make Back room deals, to which “We The People” …Suffer the consequences…

    I’ve decided not to play the Democrat and Republican, back and forth, keep the “People” confused game…..

    Why not promote the Libertarian Party instead if you want True Liberty? I’ve to join them, They promote True Liberty, Check them out at ….
    http://www.lp.org/

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Yeah, I chopped up the spelling quite a bit on some of my posts also, but it happens at times. I dont believe the Republicans are the same cats as the democrats, in no way shape or form. I do however find them guilty of trying this bi-partisian baloney, where they “reach across the aisle”, and give the left something in order to get what they want. But the left will not give up or into anything. So I wish the Republicans would tell them to go screw themselves, and work without them, and if nothing can get done, expose these losers to the public that they arent doing their job. Just like when they all fled Wisconsin and Indiana, instead of doing their jobs, every name should have been ran on the TV stations over and over and over again, and in the newspapers, exposing these guys for not doing their jobs. But the liberal press, just the the democrats, they dont want to do their jobs either. If you or I took off from our jobs, because we didnt like a new rule, we would be fired immediately. I think all these losers should be removed from office for derilection of duty. I know many believe them to be one and the same, but I dont. And I do like a lot of the things the Libertarians stand for in running a government, a lot of them. But they have one stain that keeps me away, in that they dont recognize Jesus Christ at all. A Godless government, is an in-effective government. Look at what we have now. Failure.

  • Harry Sothern

    i don’t need fun and games to motivate me to join the fight for freedom. Just seeing how Obama and his socialist Dems are messing up America is enough of a scary wake-up call to spur me to action against them.

  • Lady Patriot

    In 2010 I Googled and read the Web-sites of conservative candidates from around the country to find out as much as I could about them. After determining their positions I supported and backed them. From the local House Conservative candidate for my District to Allen West, Sharon Angle, John Dennis, Joe Miller, Llano Pantano, Pat Toomey, etc.
    We MUST do our research and then take whatever action we are capable of. We need to be very careful who WE back in 2012. DON’T JUMP TO CONCULUSIONS. Read everything you can about them, what they have WRITTEN, positions they have taken OVER what they are saying to get your attention and support. SAVE “OUR” COUNTRY.

  • http://com i41

    Term limits would work if all could only seve 1 term ans sit out 2 before serving again. It would keep lobbyist of balance and out law once a lobbyist never being able to serve as a Pres. or Congress person. Libertarian ideas are great up to a point but when anyone runs as one it just guarentees more marxist/communist socialist democrat a sure spot. Goofy Ross Perot was a prime example. Ryan Paul is a great person and would make a excellent Pres., his dad is a little to flaky and his isolantist attutide is too far in the weeds, as well as another life long Congress person. There are already too many Congess person who spout bildge on doing something and give the impression of stopping corruption, but when the nut cutting happens it is not a peep on the graft and corruption going on around the beltway. Too much get along and keep your head down attitude.

    • DaveH

      No, I41, the opposite is true. If we don’t start voting Libertarian, we are guaranteed mediocrity in our representatives. What good is that?
      Our Principles are sound. Once anybody gets past the propagandized fears, they will realize that there is little to be fearful about our agenda. Yes, Free People will make mistakes and pay for them, but they make mistakes now, plenty of them, and other people have to pay for them. How can people learn by experience when other people have to pay for their mistakes?
      The main problem that Libertarians have is the fact that so few people know what our platform is. I believe that both honest Democrats and honest Republicans would embrace our ideals, so we would get votes from both sides of the aisle. If we could get just 15% of the votes, the rest of the population would start taking us more seriously and asking “who are these people?”. Then the finger would be out of the dike and curiosity would grow, as would our membership.
      Remember that the Socialists didn’t subvert the Democratic Party overnight. In fact, during Lincoln’s dictatorship, the Democratic Party (main party of the Confederacy) was the party of Limited Government. The Constitution of the Confederacy explicitly forbade Government subsidation of business.

      • DaveH

        Am I being harsh on Lincoln? You can read the book and decide:
        http://mises.org/daily/3704

      • DaveH

        Here is the Constitution of the Confederacy for those who are curious:
        http://www.usconstitution.net/csa.html
        Especially of interest is section 9 of article 1.

        • Vigilant

          Sorry, DaveH, the part of Article 1, Section 9 that says “No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed” makes the whole document unworthy of consideration.

          Any government that would deny the life, liberty and property of a group of innocent people in chains could as easily deny it to anyone else.

          Forbidding government to subsidize business pales in comparison to the abominable position of depriving people of citizenship, privacy, and their very lives.

          • Vigilant

            And, I might add, advocation of slavery does not add up to a Libertarian government by any means.

          • DaveH

            Vigilant,
            Have you read our Constitution? Here is an exerpt:
            “[Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.]”
            That wasn’t changed until the Fourteenth Amendment in 1868 (after the war). And you need to read the fourteenth amendment carefully. It was crafted not to particularly give the blacks the vote, but to deny most of the other southerners the right to vote (those who were considered to be in Rebellion). Mind you, their “rebellion” was merely to say they wanted to be their own governors just as did the Revolutionaries 80 years earlier. And secession was a perfectly acceptable thing up until the Dictator Lincoln subverted that choice.
            Also note that there were existing Slave States that fought with the North.
            The Confederate Constitution wasn’t really saying anything different than the original Constitution, just clarifying what they wanted. And if you read more carefully you will see that they specifically outlawed any further importation of slaves, and any new states were to be slave free.
            You really need to read DiLorenzo’s book to realize the context of the situation.

          • DaveH

            And, Vigilant, I don’t know what your intent was with the Libertarian reference, but we Libertarians are pure in our Principles. We believe in Freedom for all people — NO EXCEPTIONS.
            There would have been no slave states if my people had created a new country.

          • Vigilant

            DaveH,

            I’ve read both the Constitution (including all amendments) and the constitution of the CSA many times.

            You said, “And if you read more carefully you will see that they specifically outlawed any further importation of slaves, and any new states were to be slave free.”

            The second part of that sentence is totally incorrect. I refer you to Article 3, Section 3 of the CSA constitution, as follows:

            The Confederate States may acquire new territory; and Congress shall have power to legislate and provide governments for the inhabitants of all territory belonging to the Confederate States, lying without the limits of the several States; and may permit them, at such times, and in such manner as it may by law provide, to form States to be admitted into the Confederacy. In all such territory the institution of negro slavery, as it now exists in the Confederate States, shall be recognized and protected by Congress and by the Territorial government; and the inhabitants of the several Confederate States and Territories shall have the right to take to such Territory any slaves lawfully held by them in any of the States or Territories of the Confederate States.”

            How can anyone conclude that the new states were to be deemed free states after reading that?

            As for the non-importation clause, it was a toothless gesture. The US Constitution had already covered that as of 1808, and the size of the slave population in America was sufficiently high to be self-sustaining. In short, there was no need for an African slave trade at that time.

          • Vigilant

            DaveH said, “And you need to read the fourteenth amendment carefully. It was crafted not to particularly give the blacks the vote, but to deny most of the other southerners the right to vote (those who were considered to be in Rebellion). Mind you, their “rebellion” was merely to say they wanted to be their own governors just as did the Revolutionaries 80 years earlier.”

            Your take on the 14th Amendment astonishes me, truly. The urgency of its passing came about because the southern democrats were denying the rights of citizenship to the newly freed blacks. The KKK was in full swing at that time, intimidating, murdering and pushing blacks out of government in any way they could. The 14th established full citizenship to the former slaves, a tremendous oversight of the 13th Amendment.

            All that the southerners “in rebellion” had to do was take a loyalty oath to restore their voting rights. The Republicans had established majorities in most of the legislatures of the southern states because so many southerners (Democrats) refused to take the oath. The oath simply required swearing allegiance to the United States and an oath to respect the civil rights of black Americans.

            You said, “Mind you, their “rebellion” was merely to say they wanted to be their own governors just as did the Revolutionaries 80 years earlier.”

            Yes, and that governorship of their affairs included freezing out all former slaves, denying them their due rights and perpetuating a de facto class sytem of the most nefarious nature. Thank God for the 13th and 14th Amendments.

          • Vigilant

            “Also note that there were existing Slave States that fought with the North.”

            I really don’t know what that’s supposed to indicate. I can also tell you that thousands of white northern soldiers quit the forces when Lincoln allowed blacks to enlist. So what?

            Racism and bigotry are ubiquitous, always have been and always will be. To say that the North wasn’t a bed of lily-white abolitionists, and as some wrongly claim, that Lincoln was racist, does not in any way, shape or form detract from the nobility of the 13th and 14th Amendments, nor does it detract from the courage and decency of Abraham Lincoln who was the author and agent of the Emancipation Proclamation, against the advice of his cabinet.

            The 13th Amendment was the direct, and the 14th Amendment the indirect, outcome of Lincoln’s finally putting to bed the issue that had almost prevented the Constitution from being signed, had festered unresolved for a half century and had torn this nation apart.

          • Vigilant

            DaveH,

            You said, “And, Vigilant, I don’t know what your intent was with the Libertarian reference, but we Libertarians are pure in our Principles. We believe in Freedom for all people — NO EXCEPTIONS.”

            My comment was to imply that I would never expect a Libertarian or Constitutional Conservative to refer to such a document as the constitution of the CSA in substantiating any point. That constitution (lower case letter intended) was a disingenuous rationalization for the institution of slavery.

            No matter how eloquent one may deem its statement of the 10th Amendment’s guarantee of state sovereignty, it lost any and all moral authority when it purported to employ that very same state sovereignty in the service of keeping people enslaved.

            The sacred rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness became a reality to millions of enslaved people as a result of the Civil War, and those rights were fairly well exercised until the Democrats regained control of Congress in 1876.

            The first order of business for the Dems was reversals and repeals of various hard-fought civil rights laws passed by the Republicans in the previous decade. From that time forward, up to and including the Civil Rights Acts of the 196os, the Democrats did everything in their power to marginalize the black man in America. Their record is a record of shame.

          • DaveH

            Vigilant,
            From the Confederate Constitution:
            1. The importation of negroes of the African race from any foreign country other than the slaveholding States or Territories of the United States of America, is hereby forbidden; and Congress is required to pass such laws as shall effectually prevent the same.
            2. Congress shall also have power to prohibit the introduction of slaves from any State not a member of, or Territory not belonging to, this Confederacy.

            So, I misspoke about the new states being required to be slave-free. Whip me, whip me good. But they did explicitly give Congress the right to prohibit it in the new states.

            Meanwhile, you know not of what you speak when you chastise me for my interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment. I won’t try to develop a long story in a short comment, just for your sake. Rather than take my word for anything, read the Book:
            “The Real Lincoln” by Thomas DiLorenzo. Then you can either Eat Crow, or stubbornly assure yourself that it can’t be true.
            I got my copy from the local library. You can too. Or you can be like most others and sweltor in your propagandized stupor.

          • DaveH

            From the guy that Vigilant says is wrongly accused of racism:
            “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races – that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything.” — Abraham Lincoln

            For more:
            http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo112.html

          • DaveH

            Apparently Vigilant is not so vigilant, as he still hasn’t caught on that Politicians will tell people what they think they want to hear. Only by their actions can you really know them. Lincoln’s actions were to launch a war that cost 600,000 lives (10 times what we lost in Vietnam) to prevent the South from seceding from the Union. Later in the war he manipulated the truth to act as if his actions were to free the slaves, when in fact, years before, many European countries had freed their slaves peacefully by compensating their owners for their losses, something Lincoln “the Great Emancipator” never bothered considering. His real motivation was to do away with the Jeffersonian style limitations on the Federal Government so that he could build the Mercantilistic style of Central Government which is any power-seeking politician’s dream.

          • DaveH

            The negroes were just pawns used in his quest to seek absolute power.

          • DaveH

            My take on the Fourteenth Amendment “astonishes” Vigilant who says “All that the southerners “in rebellion” had to do was take a loyalty oath to restore their voting rights”.
            The Southerners did vote 6 years earlier to leave the Union which was trampling their rights. Their vote was ignored. Instead 300,000 or so of their fellow citizens’ lives were taken by a man who didn’t respect their right to vote to leave the Union. So, after that bloody unnecessary war, all they had to do was pledge allegiance to the Union? That’s all? Just give up all their dignity so they could vote, a vote that would be ignored anyway like their vote to secede from an unholy Union?
            Some people don’t sell their souls to the devil, Vigilant.

        • DaveH

          Vigilant,
          I have to add, that you are as ignorant as the Liberals if you would harass me over something you know little about, before you have at least read the book that I cited.
          And for you to insinuate that I somehow condone slavery or mistreatment of anybody due to their race, just shows me that you aren’t practicing what you preach. I’ve had the Liberals launch less vicious attacks on me.

          • Dan az

            Very well done Dave!Now its my turn to read the book.

          • Vigilant

            “Or you can be like most others and sweltor in your propagandized stupor.”

            “I have to add, that you are as ignorant as the Liberals if you would harass me over something you know little about, before you have at least read the book that I cited.”

            Those remarks, Dave, are beneath your dignity. I have never insulted you in that name-calling manner, and I don’t intend to do so in the future.

            “And for you to insinuate that I somehow condone slavery or mistreatment of anybody due to their race, just shows me that you aren’t practicing what you preach. I’ve had the Liberals launch less vicious attacks on me.”

            Never did I insinuate that. I took issue SOLELY with your reference to a shameful document (The CSA constitution) to support your point. God knows, there are enough reasons to protect the sanctity of state’s rights, and you know I fully support those reasons, but to rely on a document to bolster your case that abused the doctrine of state’s rights as a cover for enslavement is not proper, in my mind.

            It would be like me citing the doctrines of Mussolini’s fascism to celebrate the fact that at least the trains ran on time.

            I know you are a Libertarian, I know how you feel about equality, etc., and I do not accuse you of racism or bigotry. I simply pointed out what I felt was a poor choice of sources.

            Moreover, Im curious about your very passionate defense of an ostensibly historical perspective based on the reading of one author. Thousands of accounts of Lincoln’s life have been published. What is so compelling about DiLorenzo’s? Certainly, I will read the book, but I’ll do so with a skeptical eye and not accept its assertions as gospel truth.

          • Vigilant

            I have seen the distortions of southern revisionist historians before, and I have seen a number of those historians outed for the slavery apologists they are. I will indeed purchase the book to read, as I have purchased “Rules for Radicals” and Zinn’s “People’s History of the US,” because I always want to see what’s going on in the enemy camp.

            I’m no professional historian, but I believe a true scholar of history should tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. DiLorenzo’s methods and motivations are suspect by dint of the fact that it’s obvious he has an ax to grind.

            Why do I say this? Because I go to Amazon and see two other works by DiLorenzo, “Abraham Lincoln: Friend or Foe of Freedom?” and “Lincoln Unmasked: What You’re Not Supposed to Know About Dishonest Abe.” I would submit that any “historian” who feels compelled to write three books on debunking the Lincoln “myth” is a man with a mission, one who I think “doth protest too much,” one who has difficulty seeing the forest for the trees. Calling him “Dishonest Abe” is not the writing of an historian, it’s the writing of a zealot.

            Secondly, and this is based on the David Gordon book review found at the Mises site, entitled “The Despot Named Lincoln” (now that’s real historical objectivity for you), it appears that DiLorenzo has fallen for the canard that it was primarily for economic reasons that the South seceded and started the war. He has not told the truth.

            I do not fall without question for any historical assertion or theory simply because it happens to conform to my way of thinking, or because it purports to be a latter day revelation of some “truth” that has eluded scholars for a hundred years. I do not change my opinion until I check source documents, and I do not proclaim Lincoln either a saint or a demon. Anyone who does is not to betaken seriously.

            Gordon quotes the following: “Slavery was already in sharp decline in the border states and the upper South generally, mostly for economic reasons … there is evidence that there was growing political support within the border states for gradual, peaceful emancipation that would have ended slavery there. (p. 51)”

            This rationalization is almost universal amongst the slavery apologists, and is akin to the denial of the Holocaust. I’ve also heard that only 4% of southerners owned slaves (a true figure), and the weak justification that the small farmers who had slaves were generally kind to them. What a bunch of poorly executed sophistry to try and minimize the horrors of slavery. The culture of “King Cotton” depended upon slave labor, and the south was not about to give it up.

            Apparently the word never got to the CSA brutes that there was “growing political support within the border states for gradual, peaceful emancipation…” As I’ve said and shown, the CSA constitution’s aim was to perpetuate slavery in the new states and territories. The numerous Congressional debates leading up to the Civil War are ample evidence that the Democrats were not about to give up slavery. On the contrary, their position was that of “compromise,” one new slave state and one new free state.

            But most of all, I find the intellectual dishonesty of the revisionists to be deplorable. For reasons of their own, they wish to divert your attention from the actual historical documents of the time. If there is any doubt that slavery was the most important reason for the Civil War, one need only check the Democratic Party platforms for the years 1856 and 1860. It is as clear as daylight that the number one divisive issue was that of slavery, and no amount of historical revision can change that fact. These “historians” don’t want you to read these documents. I hope you will take the time, Dave.

            Take the Dems’ 1856 platform: There’s some nice wordage about preservation of rights and privileges, the state’s rights argument, but the largest portion of the platform concerns the slavery question.

            “Resolved, That claiming fellowship with and desiring the cooperation of all who regard the preservation of the Union under the constitution as the paramount issue, and repudiating all sectional parties and platforms concerning domestic slavery which seek to embroil the states and incite to treason and armed resistance to law in the territories, and whose avowed purpose, if consummated, must end in civil war and dis-union…”

            “Must end in civil war and dis-union.” That threat appears nowhere else in the platform, not in any resolution concerning tariffs or other economic reasons. It was ONLY the fight over slavery that prompted the threats of secession and violence from the South.

            I have a quote for which I have lost the source, but the facts check out, as follows:

            “The original Republican platform in 1856 had only nine planks – six of which were dedicated to ending slavery and securing equal rights for African-Americans. The Democratic platform of that year took an opposite position and defended slavery… The next Democratic platform (1860) endorsed both the Fugitive Slave Law and the Dred Scott decision; Democrats even distributed copies of the Dred Scott ruling to justify their anti-black positions.”

            Additionally, Gordon says (about DiLorenzo), “He compares Lincoln’s words with what he actually did, and the result is a historical rather than a mythological figure.”

            While the author may undoubtedly do that, I’d have to ask him, “is the magnanimity of Lincoln’s actions in freeing the slaves somehow diminished by any statements or other motives of Lincoln?” In the final analysis, the nobility of the action certainly speaks louder than the words. We have Lincoln and the Republican Party to thank for that, and nothing else.

          • Vigilant

            You might want to read the one star review of the book on Amazon by Joshua Felipe. He has read ALL of Lincoln’s letters and speeches.

            After a very astute review of Lincoln’s ideas, he talks about a speech by Jefferson Davis:

            “This shows us how entirely wrongheaded people are to think that Davis or the other secessionists was ever, in any way whatsoever, an opponent of “big government”. In reality, Davis firmly believed in imposing HUGE, indeed INFINITELY LARGE government on about three million of the people who lived in the south. He believed that, for those people, government imposed and exercised by others should be total, absolute, and unrelenting; that it should control every single moment of their lives; every minute of their day; that it should tell them where to go, what to wear, where to sleep, when to work, when to eat, what to eat, when to speak, when to be silent, and when to roll over and die — and that it should have the permanent right to steal the “bread that they earn by the sweat of their own brow.”

            This is probably the BIGGEST form of government that human beings have ever invented in the whole of history. Davis is manifestly its very avid supporter. Lincoln was manifestly against it.

            So let there be no more of this utter nonsense about secession having anything whatsoever to do with opposing big government. The south seceded to make sure that Lincoln or other people with his crazy idea of human equality would never be able to diminish the complete and total and HUGE government exercised by whites in the south over the people “not fit to govern themselves.”

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            To Dave and Vigilant, I think both of you need to take a step back from it, and respectfully agree, to disagree. None of us can be right all the time, and none of us can be wrong all the time. And Lincoln has been dead and gone, and though we can speculate what his deep motives inside his heart were, we will never truly know, all we can go by are the historical writings and the things that have transpired over time. But couldnt it be, much like today, that the president goes along with what his party wants and tries to do what he perceives the people want, according to what he is being told? I mean there are many derivatives to be considered here, or, like any man, I could be wrong also, so please dont chastize or attack me, as I am just offering my opinion, for better or worse, for right or wrong, its just my opinion, and in America, I am still entitled do that. For now. But is is a fact, if the left wing liberals are not kept in check, there is coming a time, when we will not be allowed to express our opinions. While they cry dearly of freedom of speech, when it fits their needs, they seek to quiet those views that oppose theirs, as they are seeking to shut down talk radio and forums like this to shut down our voices, so that only theirs will be heard. So lets enjoy our freedom of differenting opinions, share our thoughts, and learn to accept others opinions, and not insist that theirs match ours, or we attack. Leave that to the left please. You both are above this.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        If the Libertarian Party would allign itself with the real power, Jesus Christ, I would be willing to bet the ranch they would start winning elections in a landslide. People want something new, and the Libertarians do have good stances on a wide, wide, variety of topics. But a nation of over 70 percent Christians, are not going to widely grasp on to a party that pretty much wholly rejects God. You guys are exactly what Im looking for, except for that one important thing.

  • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

    Chip:

    Maybe you will get to meet Jovi and Denniso!

    Is Dingy Harry going to read some Cowboy Poetry?

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Wiselady

    Wiselady says:
    4-22-11

    30 years ago I did the TV., Radio Talk show and public speaking in colleges and community clubs, local area and across my state, that lowering educational standards to accomaodate ethnic minorities, would eventually cause an economic disaster in all areas of our infrastructure due to the socialistic thinking of our local, state and federal govenment peoponents for, “helping the poor”, or they would not get into college. I am willing to bet that those who are displeased with our current economica, educational, meltdown of our infrastructure, borders, excessive govenment control and e.t.c. are complaining the most now that reality is here. Just cheer up and donate whatever you can. There is satisfaction in giving and don’t complain when your taxes go up if you are in the middle class. That is in Obama’s agenda.

    Well,well well. Now those of the late 50′s, 60′s and 70′s will have to work an extra 2-3 years to retire and have ultimately, their Social Security reduced.

    They were the liberals who wanted the illegals to have all rights and privileges, which they now have; but we can’t send them back to their native country because of their,”babies”,have American birth rights.

    The chickens, who have come home to roost, liberal Democrats and Republicans alike, should be proud of Obama’s championed liberal spending. They ought to be celebrating and donating their earnings to help all the now grown up, “babies”, who were poorly educated, illiterate, misinformed, and became the mass liberal population voting citizens; many of them college graduates who were and still are being brain-washed by liberal professors.

    Sooooo, where is Onama doing most of his twisted liberal campaign speeches? In the colleges, senior citizens’centers and to Hispanics as he did in Los Angeles. The Hispanics have not built a univerity, a community college nor a single sizeable hospital/clinic center throughout the United States of America. Anyone know of one? Let me know. And where and how do illegals pay property and income taxes as we are told by the elected liberals? With false/stolen ID’s? I know that you have to show both when you buy or sell property. Enfore the law. We are fed up. We have a national ID card, update it.

    I learned that Los Angeles, Mayor Villaragosa, is thinking of building a downtown stadium for a football national team to bring in more business….. The city is broke and begging for federal funds! How insane liberals have become!!!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Wiselady,
      Perhaps I misread your post, but I am of the fifties and I have never advocated that illegals get all the privledges of citizens! NEVER! I have been very good friends with a lot of LEGAL Mexicans and Americans of Mexican decent, but I would be very willing to plant a boot in the a$$ of any illegal here if it would get them back across the border any faster!!!

    • DaveH

      Wiselady,
      I don’t condone illegal entry into our country. But, it isn’t the illegals that are ruining our country. They are just pawns like so many others in the Liberal Leaders scheme to buy votes. It’s Big Government that is killing our country, and they will keep killing it until the easily-distracted voters focus on the real problem — our Levaithan Unconstitutional Federal Government.
      Jefferson, Madison, and Washington (among others) were wise enough to know the mess that would be created if Government wasn’t constrained. Unfortunately hard thinking is not attractive to most people, so they are easily led astray by smooth-talking politicians.
      I think most of us deserve what we are getting. But I don’t.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        It is big government that funds illegal immigration, and funds all the gigantic handouts of food stamps, WIC, welfare, the billions in the failed Head Start Program, the United Nations, our welfare payments to Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Syria and other countries that hate us. Our billions we spend protection Saudi Arabia while they live high off the hog and charge us more and more for oil. The lack of drilling in this country while giving billions to Chavez and Arab nations. All a product of big government. Time to downsize. Now.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Wiselady

    Wiselady says:

    4-22-11

    Dave, there was no idea of establishing any distinct party as we know now. Later some called themselves the Federalist and others the Constitutionalists and e.t.c. Look up you dusty books of how America got started and you will be astounded that they had one thing in common.. freedom of religion, expression and liberty to pursue happines. Party affiliation was not in their minds but buildng self ruling principals were foremost in the ideas of establishment of government.

    • Cawmun Cents

      bring back the whig party///haw!

  • chuckb

    before the dust settles the conservative americans will again have to fight for their country and their freedom. we have allowed the bolshevik faction to destroy our heritage thru civil rights legislation, to rip apart our society and squander our wealth. barry has thrown the door wide open for the world to rush in. we have allowed the education system to turn into an indoctrination center to further the bolshevik agenda. the republican party is rendered useless by self indulged rino’s. we have allowed the politicians to involve our country into another useless war, now we are siding with the same jihadist we are fighting in another country, this is insane.

    • crisscross

      The legions of brainwashed, ignorant, arrogant kids coming out of our public indoctrination centers will make anything else we do futile in a generation or two as we fall into irrelevance through attrition. They’re mentors and even some of them are counting on it and, unfortunately, many of us, for whatever reason, are obliging them. “Getting involved” in you kids’ education sounds good, but the reality is that this self-serving, monopolistic, government-funded, union-dominated system is rigged from top to bottom to obstruct or co-opt such good intentions. This is no less than a war for the hearts and minds of our youth and the future of our country. Just as the heroic work of our Founders in is being squandered now at an accelerating pace, so will the works we do now in the interests of personal liberty if we leave our children’s education to these usurpers, whose job it is to estrange our children from us and make them our philosophical and political enemies.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        They will end up just like the current union workers at GM and Chrysler, who continually put junk out the door, because “its not my job”. We are teaching our children in school, the union mentality, that hard work gets you no where, other than to be told to slow down because you make the others look bad. We instead, teach them to strive for mediocrity, where everyone is equal, while Japan and India and other industrialized nations, teach their children to strive for excellence, and they reward success and punish failure. Somehow, we now reward failure and punish excellence. The liberal way, no doubt.

  • DaveH
  • DaveH

    Get us out of the United Nations!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Brother, Im with you on that way. Ive said this for years. What a stinking scam, funding the efforts of terrorist bastard nations telling us what to do and how much pay for it. Get out now.

  • DaveH

    This one starts out slow, but is very profound. Everybody should read this:
    http://mises.org/daily/5206/The-Real-William-Graham-Sumner

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Wiselady

    wiselady says
    4-24-11

    Dave.
    California has a $25billion deficit with a high percentage of it caused by the illegals in prisons, free medical care, schools are overcrowed, welfare, food stamps, abortion and high crime rate our in cities, county and the state border; Feds haven’t helped in paying their share. About 32% of our state budget deficit is due to the illegals. Other states are experiencing a similar situation.

    Connect the dots, Dave, you’ll find that the state and Federal Govenment has grown to the point where it had to make sure that more social programs would be developed to help, “support” the state but its promises of funds have not come forth with the correct amounts.

    They have not constrained their growth nor cost to the tax payers. In that, I agree with you; but now add to all that I have mentioned and include the wild spending of government in other areas, The EPA, Stimulus, Czars who earn 6 figure incomes, Medicare, Medicaid, United Nations,various Educational programs, and departments, Social Security. The list is endless. We MUST STOP the SPENDERS NOW!! There is no other solution!

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    Mexico has had a plan for years to take back all the southwestern territory. Due to the lame liberals in Southern California, they are now the mayors, councilmen and women, and moving up to congress and soon they will be the Senators and Governors, and they, with each step, open up the borders more and more, and kick the American way of life to the curb, and bring in the Mexican way of life. Soon we will have to wall off California, and let them have the bankrupt hole.

  • slim sha dy

    . gd. item. re A Z: L . R . C “mike”
    Rock. = Well. says gift from JP to Phoe nix. AZ cld not be
    delivered w/ out person in A Z providing tx payer i.d. #
    0 H e d . .
    ge says same for p metal coins delivery (to ppl in WA.) from Canada

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Wiselady

    Wiselady says:

    4-26-11

    Thank you Beberoni, we are already in the, bankrupt hole. Now our
    Gov., Moonbeam, Jerry Brown, wants the tax payers to put a mark on the, “yes” box for higher taxes next time we have a state elections.
    I would be an idiot to vote, “Yes, increase my taxes”.

    He should be donating every penny he made as governor, investments, collection of Union pay backs, speeches and whatever else has made money for him. His father, (when governor), and he established numerous social programs that have perpetuated poverty and they did it by spending more than bringing in the necessary income.

    Students from Mexico are already being taught on how to take the Western states, “have lots of babies and let the gringos pay for the hopital bill”. It has all come true. Some hospitals and clinics have closed and now many of the illegals travel far to get to a hospital when they need medical care and if a person has a Visa, the car circles the parking lot and the woman walks in when labor begins.
    Diane Sawyer, news commentator, did a documentary on this.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Evidently they didnt learn their lesson out there the first time they gave Jerry Brown power. Another point of if we dont learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it. Whats next, Marion Berry getting re-elected in DC>

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Wiselady

    Wiselady says:

    4-30-11

    To Beberoni:

    Here is how it all happened:

    They first had to, “dumb down”, education so they could cultivate, “dumb voters”, to elect, “dumb down”, educated, officials.

    Great example: “Dumb downed”, educated Lt. Governor Newsome, recently traveled to Texas and other states with a group of, some,”dumb down, politicians at, “dumb peoples’”, expense to learn how and why Texas and other states, had a high rate of employment; numerous companies from Calif. have left to relocate in some of the southern states because of a favorable tax base for them and less union infringement. My Nephew, a para-medic, relocated his family in Texas two months ago and is doing well.

    Newsome was Mayor of San Francisco, a very troubled city which I won’t visit alone as I enjoyed in the past. He left behind too many city, “dumb voters”. In addition, the Latino population, a large voting block in Calif., voted for Moonbeam Governor Jerry Brown and him as a block. Most are college,”dumb down”, educated student activists connected with La Raza, and involved in the communities much like the Acorns, who did a lot of,”dumb things” in the ’08 election. However, these students are better brain washed by the, “dumb down” educational system. They care about being taken of by the “dumb politicians”, who are elected by the “dumb voters” with the help of our,”dumb down”, educated news media. Get the picture? I am sure you do.

    I fought all the “dumb chaos”, we had in schools at all levels but was smart enough to leave the, “dumb educational”, system and went to more productive and privately owned ventures. I am now seriously looking to relocate in another state because.

    God bless America…and congratulations on being correct on your sound, intelligent expression of profound truth!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Wiselady

    Wiselady apologizes:

    5-1-11

    …sorry, I made a,”dumb mistake”, in not finishing my next to the last sentence. I want to seriously consider relocating to another state because of the crazy, “dumb down”, educated politicians and many voters I encounter here.

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