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Hatch Pledges To Fight Tax Increases

April 25, 2011 by  

Hatch pledges to fight tax increasesDemocratic efforts to raise taxes will likely face staunch opposition on Capitol Hill, especially on a key finance panel in the United States Senate.

Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), who is the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance committee, has stated that he would reject any deficit-reduction package that includes tax hikes. In a Senate floor speech before the April recess, Hatch condemned President Barack Obama's call for tax increases, saying that "raising taxes has never and will never solve our deficit crisis," quoted by The Hill.

Although Democrats have a majority in the Senate, Hatch plays a significant role in overseeing tax-related legislation. He has the power to slow any budget proposal that may be championed by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.)

"When taxes are hiked in the name of tackling our debt, they've been used for more spending," said Hatch, quoted by the news provider.

Many critics have slammed Obama following his April 13 speech regarding the national deficit. While advocating for tax increases for America's wealthy, he said that people like himself and Warren Buffet do not need more tax breaks.

In a column for the San Jose Mercury News, Victor Davis Hanson said that the President tried to mask the facts of his proposal by using the world's third-richest man and the nation's most privileged official as examples.

"It would be more accurate to say that raising taxes on the better-off is a sort of punishment for those who break into the top brackets briefly and try to be careful to save what they make and not spend what they don't," Hanson wrote. 

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  • http://naver samurai

    Let’s see if he sticks to his guns. Believe me, I’m sure the average taxpayer would say that our taxes are too high. We should also streamline our currecnt tax system. I guess you can’t expect much when our tax codes are 7 times larger than the Bible and understood by no one. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Mick

      samurai says:
      April 25, 2011 at 12:48 am
      Let’s see if he sticks to his guns. Believe me, I’m sure the average taxpayer would say that our taxes are too high. We should also streamline our currecnt tax system. I guess you can’t expect much when our tax codes are 7 times larger than the Bible and understood by no one. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
      ***************************************
      samurai,,,I am with you,,,,Taxes are way too high especially the way our government utilize our money.
      Obama keeps on harping on the fact that we should live within our means while he and his democrat co-conspirators are busy plotting the fall or our country by financially and morally ruining it.
      Anyone failing to see that you don’t get out of debt by creating more needs to have their heads examine.
      Our society needs to change the standards the Democrats have set for decades, follow success and condemn failure, reward merit and dedication while eliminating the Liberal motto of demands, laziness, self indulgence and to put it simply dishonest and unfair to the hard working folks .

      • Eddie47d

        Few in the higher echelons of our pay system are fair or honest. I would say they get their money not by hard work but by the laziness you invoke against liberals. Our pay scale in America is frightening and abusive from the top down. Those Hedge Fund mgrs. and corporate executives have ruined this once great country by demanding exorbitant golden parachutes,bonuses,stock options and salaries. They will bury their own companies to gain status in the billionaire club; for once they have their “butts” covered they don’t care if their company sinks or swims.They just move on to their next project. They can take their money and run and live happily ever after without worrying about the losses everyone else has to face. Caring,fair,honest,hard working? Ya right! This constant attacking those who make $8-30 dollars an hours while praising the wickedness of our corporate world and their unbalanced greed is getting very old. A good example was in the paper yesterday where Borders executives took $8.3 million. The President got $1.7 million and while they filed a 1 billion dollar bankruptcy.. All pay and assets were frozen for all employees months ago yet they made sure they fed themselves at the trough. I have brought this up on other companies yet you can’t grasp what is really tearing this country apart. You always beat up on the little guy without seeing the wolf pack devouring the jobs where those little guys and gals work at.

        • Mick

          Eddie47d says:
          April 25, 2011 at 8:57 am
          Few in the higher echelons of our pay system are fair or honest. I would say they get their money not by hard work but by the laziness you invoke against liberals. Our pay scale in America is frightening and abusive from the top down. Those Hedge Fund mgrs. and corporate executives have ruined this once great country by demanding exorbitant golden parachutes,bonuses,stock options and salaries. They will bury their own companies to gain status in the billionaire club; for once they have their “butts” covered they don’t care if their company sinks or swims.
          ***************************
          Eddie47d…..Tell that to the stock holders not the tax payers……..and while you’re at it tell it to Obama who is very eager to bail out the very same companies with the same hungry CEO’s as long as they back him up…….

          • Eddie47d

            Few stockholders care about morality as long as a company is making them bucks. They want to reward those who feed their piggy bank regardless whether those gains were got by devious means.Enron was a prime example of that.Why are so many fooled by pyramid schemes until after the fact? Our system isn’t as transparent as we would like to believe.

    • homeboy

      it’s called haveing your cke and eating it too.

  • Doc Sarvis

    It is time that those who have benifitted the most from our country’s government, infrastructure, natural resources, business environment, and global stature pitch in to help when our country is trying to recover. Even in the recovery our government has propped up those large corporations and upper class at the expense of the low and middle class.

    • JIBBS

      I guess you want to stiffle job creation, taxing the people who create jobs even more is negative to job creation. Beside’s, who the heck created this problem? It was the government! Do you spend more than you can afford? I bet not, so don’t ask me to pay your over spending or the governments. Cut the free hand outs and the welfare for illegals and the one’s who choose not to work! And the list goe’s on. If you don’t work, don’t eat! If you don’t put money in the bank, you get none out. Get your liberal hands off my money that I earned!!!! Educate yourself and become productive, and stop blaming those who WORKED for their money. Still clueless? thats your fault, not mine.

      • Mick

        JIBBS

        Amen to that..

        I am sick and tired to be forced to give up so much of the money I’ve earned and could use for myself to enable the opportunistic laze that the Liberal have so well protected for decades,,,,
        A country such as ours can’t thrive and regain its status with the type of society the democrats have created

      • Doc Sarvis

        The rich have had their taxes reduced since the early years of the Bush administration. This was under the guise of job creation and yet look where we are now, widespread unemployment and not a lot of jobs to be had. The rich have been making even more money due to tax advantages they have to ship jobs overseas. How unAmerican is that?

        As for hard work; you would have a hard time convincing me that corporate executives that receive HUGE bonuses work harder than people who struggle with multiple jobs (often physically exhausting) just to barely make ends meet. Sure there are slackers but they are by far the minority.

        So if the guy who makes $2 million a year and gets that amount in bonuses (both low ball figures), and jets around to a couple of meetings a week, and has to schedule his golf games around his month long vacation to italy, AND has just signed a deal to ship his manufacturing jobs to India (making a tax profit in the doing) is asked to pony up and skim a little more from his $100 million stash to help out with our country’s woes – I’m not feeling too sorry for him.

        • Mick

          Socialism is a philosophy of FAILURE,the creed of Igorance and the
          gospel of ENVY,it`s inherent VIRTUE is equal sharing of MISERY

          Sir Wintson Churchill

          Churchill was right once more, we can all see the gospel of ENVY in Doc Sarvis’s post…

        • JIBBS

          nobama has been in charge for nearly 3 years, as for those who make min. wage….education is the answear. Under Bush, tax intake what very high, look at how much obama has spent and wasted. Look at how many people pay no tax, and thatys bullsh%t. By the way Doc, go do some research, it will open your eye’s, don’t rely on the media and the government to tell the truth. They both lie to you and me, if the government told the truth, they would go out of business.

          • Doc Sarvis

            The scenario I posed above is just that yet not unrealistic, very close to dead on. Other than that, what did I post here that is not truth?

        • JIBBS

          And I don’t feel sorry for the government, they are the one’s that over spent and gave money to illegals and those who don’t like to work(whos the dummy now?) If you want to help them, use your money. Hey Doc, could you please give me a few hundred bucks to pay my bills?

          • Doc Sarvis

            Considering your comments I would think that you would be responsible and hard working enough to handle your own affairs. Guess I was wrong – perhaps you are living too large.

          • JIBBS

            Doc says: Considering your comments I would think that you would be responsible and hard working enough to handle your own affairs. Guess I was wrong – perhaps you are living too large.
            **********************************************************************
            I’m doing just fine, but judging by what you stated above, you should be telling that to the government, and it seems like you don’t want to give them anymore money. I think you might be starting to catch on.

          • Eddie47d

            Jibbs says he is doing fine and making plenty yet had the audacity to ask Doc for a loan (handout). Typical person who has and wants more from someone else. I’m sure Jibbs was joshing but you get the point.

          • JIBBS

            Eddie, I was trying to make a point( the government spends like a fool, and asks for more money)No, I’m not rich, I’m a truck driver and carpenter. I just don’t spend more than I can pay, and I know how to manage my money. Norm, you and Eddie both never provide one fact to you statements.

          • Eddie47d

            There are plenty who don’t pay taxes,rich and poor alike. I do thank you for your hard work and the taxes you do pay. Carpentry is an admirable skill and I wish I was better at it. I can finish a raw basement but can’t build a simple dresser. If you want a fairer system of taxation I’m with you. I’m for getting people off of welfare so they can pay taxes. I also believe that if the wealthy can’t provide new jobs but only think of themselves then maybe that’s a big problem too. If they live large in America and use our services and the blessings that are given them then they have a greater responsibility to heal the nation. There is no communist plot to steal their wealth and leave them with nothing. We could tax them another 5% which would bring their rate to 40% which is still 50% less than in the early 1950′s. Even in the mid-50-60′s their tax rate was much higher and they thrived. Our country was on top of the world when tax rates were high. Now they are comparably low and the wealthy can’t produce. So what’s up with that? It’s not whether someone is paying more than someone else but what they are left with. I’d be for a 25% flat tax on everyone but until someone comes up with a workable solution then we have to go with what we have. If there would be new taxes they would have to be used to pay down debt not create new programs.

          • JIBBS

            Eddie, I can’t build a cabinet or dresser either, I’m just not a mill cabinet guy. I tend to think that those guys have a tougher job than a carpenter doe’s, I think it is more of a fine art and require’s a greater deal of skill and training. I wish I would have pursued that aspect of the trade. They are alway’s in demand and have a cleaner work enviorment. I can build a house or commercial building and sling drywall, in my sleep or back up a 53′ trailer better than most people driving forward, I even earned a Private Pilot Lic. back in 2004

        • JIBBS

          The government raise’s taxes because they over spent and wasted what they take in, and then expects Americans to pay more tax, because they don’t know how to manage money, and at the same time, they let almost 50% pay no tax at all and then give them a rebate. And you want me to pay more!..how UnAmerican is that?

          • Doc Sarvis

            You stated; “…because they don’t know how to manage money, and at the same time, they let almost 50% pay no tax at all and then give them a rebate.” Sure sounds like you are talking about the rich here, at least in relative terms.

          • JIBBS

            Doc Sarvis says:
            April 25, 2011 at 8:55 am
            You stated; “…because they don’t know how to manage money, and at the same time, they let almost 50% pay no tax at all and then give them a rebate.” Sure sounds like you are talking about the rich here, at least in relative terms.
            ********************************************************************** If you bothered to do some research on your own, you would find that you sir, are wrong. You rely on the media for your research..jeeeze wake up, the key problems is the governments wasteful overspending and supporting those that do not work, thus pay no taxes. Take a ride thru the ghetto or trailer park.

          • Doc Sarvis

            Riding through the getto/trailer park I see a lot of people living on the edge. If we taxed them at 100% all we would get is the minimum amount they need to survive which is next to nothing, especially in relation to our national debt crisis.

            Of course spending in the government is a problem but there is some spending that is necessary and some that is not. We need to identify and fund the essential programs and also attack the debt crisis.

        • Ellen

          Doc,
          While your generalization of the rich may be true for the ultra rich, it is not true for most of the people the government considers rich. There are very few people who actully fit into your generalization. Either way, if the ‘rich’ were all taxed at 100%, it wouldn’t make a dent in our country’s financial situation. The problem is that 50% of the population doesn’t pay at all. This is due to the abuse of our welfare system. If you combine what the states & fed govt pay in welfare, it is equal to what the govt pays out for Soc. Sec. & Medicare combined. Congress is looking at reducing the wrong govt programs. We need massive welfare reform to reduce the number of people choosing to live off the taxpayers.

          • Doc Sarvis

            So, as has happened a lot in the last few years, someone has worked and payed into Social Security and other government programs all of that time and then that person is layed off. Now they have even less than too little to live off of from the programs they have been paying into? You want to hit the poor and those who have been thrown out of jobs while those who are sitting pretty and sending those jobs overseas (at a profit no less) get tax shelters.

          • Ellen

            Doc, again you’re talking about a miniscule number of people (who send jobs overseas). You bring up a very good point about another safety net – unemployment compensation. It’s nearly useless, as it doesn’t begin to cover the basic necessities of someone who has lost their job. If it were a successful program, it would pay a decent amount and people wouldn’t have lost their homes. It’s another example of a mismanaged, failed program. As for the poor, they have not been impacted by this as they receive housing, food, medical care, & utilities already. Unfortunately, the great majority of America’s poor are poor by choice (quit school, illegitimate children, etc). The other poor (disabled, widowed) are covered by Social Security, not welfare. I agree there are over-paid executives, but they are not the cause of our financial problems. Welfare is.

        • http://naver samurai

          Too much lib rhetoric! Everyone had their taxes cut under Bush, counting me. Believe me, mu wife and I aren’t rich in money. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • barbm

        taxing wealthy individuals is not the same as taxing corporations for which they work or which they own. i don’t understand why so many seem to consider them the same thing. rich movie stars who run around championing every give-away program out there and voicing their worthless opinions about politics and other issues that they are completely ignorant of need to be taxed to high heaven. if bill gates can afford to build millions of dollars worth of schools in foreign countries, why can’t he give that money to his country to help out with the deficit? oh yeah, because it’s not tax deductible. charity should be given help for charity’s sake, not to get deductions so you don’t have to pay taxes on it. sorry, but there are some ultra-wealthy out there that are NOT paying their fair share and who do not create jobs. they may own businesses that create jobs, but those funds are seperate from their utlandish salaries. don’t get me wrong, i think if you’re smart, hard-working, and innovative enough to start a business or run somebody else’s, you have every right to get rich from it. but you need to pay your fair share of taxes on that income.

  • Norm

    February 24th, 2011
    In a new Utah Policy poll, 54% of Utah voters said it was time to send someone else to Washington in Hatch’s place, while only 31% said Hatch should be reelected to the seat he has held for 34 years. The poll also had dire news for Hatch’s chances of surviving a primary challenge. In a hypothetical match-up with two-term Rep. Jason Chaffetz, Hatch only managed a tie at 42% apiece.

    • barbm

      i think the dems know that there have to be some changes if we are to survive as a free republic. but, if we want them to join us in finding more honest politicians, we’re going to have to stop protecting the super rich. there will have to be some compromise or we’ll end up with 4 more years of o and the dems pushing back for congress and senate seats. 4 more of all dems is going to kill us. would break my heart if all this work we’ve done for the last 3 years was for naught jus because we protect the mega wealthy.

  • Norm

    Experience demands that man is the only animal which devours his own kind, for I can apply no milder term to the general prey of the rich on the poor.
    Thomas Jefferson

    I have not observed men’s honesty to increase with their riches.
    Thomas Jefferson

  • Eddie47d

    Norm; One thousand Amens to that. Jesus threw out the money changers and their inappropriate behavior yet the conservatives look at them as gods. They worship greed and envy as the masters of their fate.The Bible rails against the wealthy abusing their privilege and that the meek(honest person) will inherit the earth.The way the right goes after the hard working men and women who don’t have this privileged status means there is a lot of work to be done. Jesus didn’t give to the rich at the expense of the poor but encouraged a fairness that is sorely lacking in our country.

    • JIBBS

      When danger lurks, remember sonny, that rabbits foot won’t save no bunny. How about all the money you union gives to dems for favors(bribes), I guess thats okay with you.

      • Eddie47d

        Corruption (bribes) in politics hurts everyone and on both sides. In most cases unions are only trying to protect what they have earned over the years.Trying to protect your job,house and family is only normal and natural.Unions have lost allot in the last few years yet corporate management have had increases upward of 7% in pay. So who are the evil ones in this widening gap?

        • barbm

          union heads amke millions on the backs of their dues paying members. how is that right?

    • JIBBS

      Yes, I read the bible, but I have to say, that several people on here always resort to the bible, when they cannot back up what they say(no facts what soever) If you think the government cares about you, you better think again. By the way, God helps those that are willing to help themselves.(being productive and working for your keep) and thinking the world owe’s you everthing.

      • JIBBS

        err, and not thinking the world owe’s you everthing.

      • Doc Sarvis

        From my experience most of those who receive assistance ARE willing to help themselves (i.e. they want to be productive and work for their keep). They just need a helping hand every once in awhile due to sour employment circumstances or they are dissabled in some way. There is a very small set who are slackers.

        • barbm

          and what experience would that be, doc? when was the last time you went to the foodstamp office and saw all the new cars they drive up in, all the cell phones they text on while they’re waiting, the half dozen kids they have so they don’t have to work or go to school? when was the last time you sat in the emergency room waiting for 8 t 10 hours because every illegal alien and lazy welfare mother that gets medicaid came in an ambulance paid for by tax payers so they can get seen first as a true emegency even though they just have a cold? $500 for ambulance vs $1.50 for bus, $500 for emergency room service vs $84 at the doctor’s office where they’d have to wait a few days for an appointment. have you never stood in line behind them at the gorcery store and seen all the junk food and steaks they can buy but the average joe can’t afford? if they juust want a hnd up, why do they continue to have children while on public assistance when they couldn’t afford to care for the ones they already have? i don’t think you know anything about any of this. if you did, how could you say what you did and how could you not be mad as hell over it?

          • Doc Sarvis

            As I said, there is a VERY small set who are slackers.

          • JIBBS

            I think Doc is blind.

          • Doc Sarvis

            I see very well thank you.

        • JIBBS

          Doc, have you ever been to the West or South side of Chicago?, Milwaukee, Kenosha or Racine Wis.? How about Indianapolis or Detroit? Maybe Gary IN. ? And a host of other big citys. Aurora IL.? You don’t know jack my friend, it’s funny until you get robbed. Ever been robbed by a thug with a gun? I have, WTF, they need a helping hand, some due that is true. Most don’t want any help except that free check. Ask a homeless person holding a sign, if they want a job to make money, then ask if they want a beer or some drugs. Don’t bullsh*t me my friend, I didn’t just get off the hay wagon yesterday, you need to get out more often and take a drive thru the hood. There have been some places I refuse to go unless they would let me bring a pistol. You should spend a day with me in the truck, I bet you’ll pee your pants in some of the places I deliver. I work for my money, and not for the government. I donate to charities that I choose(I know where the money went)
          Good Day Sir, no reply needed, just think about what you just read and let it sink in.

          • Doc Sarvis

            I’ve been to the South side of Chicago and some other hard hit urban areas though not the others that you list. I have been to countless hard hit areas in smaller -burgs and rural areas and I know the people in the places that I’ve lived. I hope you don’t assume the inner big city is the only place there is poverty.

            As for your assertion, and I quote; “Most don’t want any help except that free check.” I would love for you to provide facts to back that up.

            And as for my reply, I always do Think about what I read and about my response to what I read.

  • jopa

    I worked for big Pharma up until retirement but I still receive proxy statements for being a stockholder.Our CEO only makes about 1.4million in salaries but after I went through the statement and with all of his stock options and bonuses for a very lackluster year he made around 47 million.This has been going on for years and the stock hasn’t moved much either way.Not a winner and not a loser.Sucks to be the little guy now that they are making mega bucks off of Bush’s prescription drug plan.Years ago all of our drugs made for the government were sold at cost but not anymore when they can charge top dollar and no bidding involved.It really sucks to be a taxpayer when there is such a waste of tax dollars even though we are paying historically low taxes today.

  • barbm

    it doesn’t take a genius to figure out how to fix this. end the wars and bring home the troops. station half of them along the border to keep the illegals out and send the rest out into the country tio find the illegals already here and send them home. when that’s done, there will be jobs for the ones who want out. take away any tax breaks given to companies that have any part of their work force in another country. doesn’t matter if they only have one little component made somewhere else, they lose all breaks. they shouldn’t get tax breaks and low paid employees too. give more breaks to the companies that are 100% american. give them a reason to bring back the jobs. make all able-bodied welfare recipients work and pass a drug test or take away their benefits. even if every dime they make goes to child care and we still have to pay them the same amount they were getting before working, maybe they’ll be too tired and busy to keep making more babies that cost us more to help them. get rid of the loophole that allows them to stay home and encourages them to have more kids so they can always have one under the age of 5 at home. cut every federal agency by 10% and let them decide how they want to cut. get rid of every illegal agency that should be handled by the states or simply shouldn’t be in existence because it infringes upon our personal liberties. i’d start with the dept of ed. end all foreign aid. i can’t write a book, but common sense would fix this. too bad we don’t have many with that virtue in d.c..

  • chuckb

    have you ever seen a tax rate that is not historically low to a liberal?

    • Doc Sarvis

      Have you ever seen a deficit that isn’t high from a Republican?

      • barbm

        how can a deficit not be high to everybody? do you make it month to month on your salary? if you couldn’t, how far in debt do you think you could get before it became a high deficit? you reach a point where you can’t pay your debt or meet your regular obligations. you either have to go get a second job (raise taxes) or stop buying those things not necessary for survival. in order for us to get healthy, we need to not only balance the budget and pay the loan interest but also have enough to start paying off the principle. i think the mega wealthy should pay more, but that alone will not do the job. tell me, doc, where would you start the cuts?

        • Doc Sarvis

          Start with corporate welfare and tax breaks for corporations who ship jobs overseas.

          • barbm

            i agree with the deletion of tax breaks for corps that take our jobs away, but the ones that didn’t should get rewarded. so we half agree. :) and then? that won’t solve the whole problem.

  • http://charter howe

    The incompatible ideologies between socialist democrats and republican conservatives is too wide a gap to ever have compromise that will solve the deficit and debt problems for Americans. The politicians, especially the Democrats have failed us, because they have persued a reckless path to class warfare and resurrecting the civil rights issues to create a believable talking point to capture the hearts, minds and votes of people who are not engaged and do not know the consequence of allowing big brother (the govt) to take away our free market system of wealth and the individual freedoms we take for granted. I have never seen the level of corrupt govt as I have witnessed in the last 20 years and we must put a stop to it, or our American exceptionalism will tank. We must Vote them out on 2 Nov 2012. As stated by Congressman Ryan who is the most knowledgible keeper of the books on debt and deficit, if the rich were taxed at the full rate that Obama wants to impose, Ryan says that if we never spend another dime, it would take 389 years to pay the debt and deficit down because Obama has not put entitlements and defense on the table. Thats rght 389 years. Obama doesn’t want to be blamed for reforming what has to be reformed because he doesn’t know how to do it without harming the poor and seniors and fortuneately Ryan does know how to do it in a way we can all live with. What a slick talker Obama is and his cronies know how to sweeten up the teleprompter speeches for the gullible. The community organizer and his band of amatuers need to be packed up and headed out on 2 Nov 2012. We need competence in govt not a bunch of lawyers who get their kicks stifling good legislation and ignoring the Constitution and laws of the land.

    • Robert

      Ignoring the Constitution, like the House Republicans passing a bill to make a previous GOP House bill that failed to make it through the Senate law, without Senate approval and the president’s signature? LOL!!!

      THAT is unconstitutional!

      • http://naver samurai

        Obama bin Laden care is also unconstitutional as it violate the Commerce Clause of the Constitution. Why would this “pretender” go against the very Constitution that he has swore to uphold and protect? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Robert

          You mean ROMNEYCARE, right?

          The GOP loved the idea so much that it supported the ROMNEYCARE mandate, until the moment the president agreed to it. Just like cap and trade, remember?

          That said, there is nothing MORE unconstitutional in the HISTORY of this republic than the aforementioned abomination recently passed by the GOP House. The GOP has ZERO room to preach about the constitution.

          • http://naver samurai

            Just the same as Obama bin Laden passing this healthcare and forcing it on the people, in which the majority didn’t want? Sound the same to me. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • GRusling

    Obama and “Warren Buffet” can easily pay their fair share of taxes if they really feel like it. All they need to do is file form 1040A and take the standard deduction, leaving all their “lawyers” and “tax accountants” out of the equation.

    Their taxes will DEFINITELY go up, and that should make them feel better if they actually mean what they say…

    • Norm

      GRusling
      People who love their country, and can afford it, don’t mind paying taxes.

  • chuckb

    doc sarbis. start with gm, talk about corporate welfare, barry sure took care of that loser.

    • Norm

      GM is about to regain its positition of #1 auto producer in the WORLD, followed by Volkswagon and in #3 almighty Toyota (snicker).
      It was actually the Bush regime that started the bailout followed by Obama.
      Pretty good deal. GM is in the black and doing OK.

      • JIBBS

        Just the facts please.

      • http://naver samurai

        Not for long abnorm. Wait till Toyota recovers from the earthquake and tsunami. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Robert

    Fact: 80% of Americans believe that taxes should be raised on the top bracket.

    The Ryan Plan (full of more phony numbers from the discredited Heritage Foundation that hyped the Bush tax cuts) is nothing more than the Bush tax cuts on steroids. We have heard all these lies before. Trickle down is pure fantasy.

    America will not stand for the GOP throwing old people to the wolves to pay for more tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires.

    • http://naver samurai

      Is it fair for the average taxpayer to work for the first 6 months of the year just to pay for welfare programs and handouts to foreign nationals, never authorized bt the Constitution? Your arguement doesn’t hold water. Typical lib arguement. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://com i41

    Noticed the jug eared marxist muslim and his bif fashion sow sure did offfer to pay their supposed increases of taxes on everyone else. I realize they 2 clues bastards think they deserve not to pay rate what they are going to tax everyone else. like to see how the values their benefits and freebies. Like flying and f–king off on taxpayers dime. Time for all the beltway azzes pay their fair share and abide by the rules like the citizens have to.

    • Robert

      Still working on that GED, i41?

      Nothing but cheap insults and childish name calling in lieu of the first fact to offer? You epitomize how vulnerable the weak and shallow minded are to bigotry and hatred. Yours is a dangerous breed, ignorant.

      President Obama clueless? You cannot even write a coherent sentence! Not that it really matters. I can read stupid well enough to know that you have NOTHING intelligent to offer in any debate.

      • http://naver samurai

        So are you with your on facts and no sources postings. Sure 141 has his own way of speaking, but you are no better. You try to sound like you know more than others on this site. Must be a lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxist. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        P.S. The Heritage Foundation is nothing compared to moveon.org and other lib sites.

  • chuckb

    gm is not in the black, it’s not in a position to pay off it’s debt to the government, check out it’s stock norm, it’s dropping like a rock. another example of unionism.

  • GeorgeE

    Thank you Senator Hatch. Raising tax rates is not the answer to our financial problem. The government spends too much money, much of which is just wasted. Spending must be cut immediately by about 40% to keep from creating more public debt for the taxpayers. The bill is already around $45,000 for every man, woman, and child in this country, or about $125,000 for every (current) taxpayer. We can’t afford any more debt. Further, over the past few years our illustrious politicians have converted the bonds on which all of this debt is owed to short term (low rate) loans to reduce the actual expense for servicing this debt. When interest rates go up, and everyone knows they will, this debt will cost us a lot more and therefore require a much larger share of the national budget to service it. In short, we may only have 3-5 years to get this under control. If we don’t, the debt will consume 100% of all the tax revenues the government receives. This is a dire problem. The only practical way, I think, of getting this under control is to institute an immediate across-the-board spending cut of about 40% this year, with further cuts in subsequent years to account for auto-spending that’s already built into law. Then we need to get real about what the government should be involved in and to what extent. If we clear our minds of all the clutter that’s been induced by “do-gooder” thinking over the decades, we might clean up the waste and reduce the size of government to do just the things the Constitution originally intended. If we don’t, then we’re headed for an ending much like the Soviet Union, and it won’t be very long coming.

  • Ridge Runner

    Docsorryassand eaddie69er You pe0ple and i mean all people like you need to get your head out of obamas and these liberal communists asses clean the shit out of your eyes and ears and look around and see what these lying thiving liberals both demons and repugants have and are still doing.These lying thiving sobs in washington dc have and still are robing the tax payers blind and you dumb asses want to kill the rich. How dumb can you get.these people have doing this for over 50 years and no end in sight.these people in the government have created this class of intitlement minded people given them all sorts of entitlements to get them to keep voting them back into office. they have also given them selfs lots of perks and lots of moneytary advantages.Don’t you wish you could tell your boss that you were going to give your self a raise.are you begining to see what has been going on.They have taxed,taxed taxed taxed and taxed just about every one out of business.They have taxed about every thing a man has but his sex organs.The reason they can’t do that is his pecker is unemployed about 95% of the time and it has 2 dependents and both are nuts.That is where all the money they are giving away is going to the nuts.Why do you think all these people are spending hundreds of thousands and millions campaining to get elected. If they get elected they will get millions out of it and look at me(thats power).This class warfare they are doing is like the the blockers running interference it hides what they are doing.These rep in congress and senate have from 20 to 40 people working for them payed for by the tax payer.they have both friends and family working for them.the government has become to big and too corrupted and we just cant support it as is.thes people in the white house are delibertly bankrupting the country and when it is done we will have riots and martial law and a change from a republic to socialists government and a complete change from our now connstution.If you dizzy zombies can’t understand how bad that is then there is no hope only change.

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