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Guns, Smoke And Islam

January 23, 2013 by  

Guns, Smoke And Islam
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Monday marked Barack Obama's second inauguration as President.

“All warfare is based on deception.”The Art of War, Chinese General Sun Tzu, 6th century B.C.

Barack Obama implemented last week 23 executive orders that strike at the heart of the 2nd Amendment. On Monday, he took his second solemn and public oath as the President of the United States.

The good news: The President knows he cannot pry our guns away from us unless it is from “our cold, dead hands.”*

The bad news: Our freshly inaugurated President is Machiavellian in obfuscating the truth behind his ultimate objective, which is to nurture Islamic influence in America and across the world.

The President would love to grab every gun from us if he could.  Testament to this fact is that Obama has surrounded himself with people eager to attack our 2nd Amendment Rights, including U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder who said last Friday that Obama acted within his legal authority.

Reuters reported: “Not one of the executive orders — contrary to what a few have said — impinges upon anyone’s Second Amendment rights or is inconsistent with the historical use of executive power,” Holder told a committee of the U.S. Conference of Mayors at a Washington hotel.

You can watch a video clip from Holder’s speech here.

Best-selling author Richard Minter, who has written for The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal, writes in his new book, Leading From Behind:

Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. may be President Obama’s favorite cabinet member. The first black president likes to watch ESPN with the first black attorney general in the White House residence. They have much in common: strong mothers who pushed them to rise, elite educations, a decades-long hostility to gun rights…”

Last Friday, Bill Maher concluded on his HBO program “Real Time” that the majority of Democrats in Congress are committed to upholding the 2nd Amendment. Maher concluded that Obama’s anti-gun executive actions are dead in the water.

If an ultra-liberal comedian such as Maher understands this truth, why is the President making so much noise about restricting guns? I can conclude only that it is a means to a far different end.

Could the President’s ambitions be to reshape the world in his image? It would be shrewd for him to hide his objective by challenging conservatives over our right to bear arms.

Blessed Is Not This Peacemaker

Obama, Holder and secretive Presidential kingmaker Valerie Jarrett take an adversarial view of Israel and are radically in favor of Islamic rights for Palestinians over the rights of Israel, the only stable and democratic nation in the Mideast. This makes Obama the polar opposite of every President we have had dating back to Harry Truman. This President endangers Israel, America’s only ally in the region.

One of the first hints of Obama’s anti-Israel views were made evident in 2008. The Jerusalem Post interviewed Jews who knew Obama well, including Henry Gendler, who lived next door to Obama for 10 years:

Normally, Gendler recalls, Obama would be happy to stand in front of the building and talk but “when it came to Israel, it was not like that.” Instead, he says, “when Israel started to become the topic, he became very cold. He always told me that we need a more ‘balanced’ approach, which in America is a code word for being too pro-Israel.”

Gendler said that when Obama was running for President, he acquired a new affection for Israel.

“Now it’s like he wants to hug and kiss Israel every five minutes,” Gendler said. “That’s completely not the Barack I had as a neighbor. That started this year, when he was trying to get elected.”

Gendler’s words were prophetic. In June 2009, the President took to the stage at Cairo University to deliver the infamous speech in which he said he was committed to build “a new beginning between the United States and Muslims around the world.”

Then came the Arab Spring, a protest movement in Mideast countries that spurred revolutions. The United States seems to have lost any vision or direction for a more peaceful settlement for the most troubled region in the world. The ongoing crisis in Egypt, Libya and Syria prove the President is either blind to radical ambitions or is a leader who actively seeks them out.

In “Barack Obama, the Arab spring and a series of unforeseen events,” Ian Black Middle East editor for The Guardian, wrote: “Now, as the end of his term nears, the answer is clear: Obama was different from his predecessor.”

It is a radical difference and evident to all who will dare to consider the truth.

Obama once pronounced, “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation.”

And in his Cairo University speech, the President declared: “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”

Hello, Mr. President! Did you miss the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s remarks in 2005? He said that if Germany and Austria feel responsible for the massacre of Jews during World War II, they should host a state of Israel on their own soil.

Ahmadinejad declared most Jews in Israel “have no roots in Palestine, but they are holding the destiny of Palestine in their hands and allow themselves to kill the Palestinian people.”

You would think these words from Ahmadinejad would have given the then-junior Senator from Illinois pause because Iran’s president added: “Some European countries insist on saying that during World War II, Hitler burned millions of Jews and put them in concentration camps. Any historian, commentator or scientist who doubts that is taken to prison or gets condemned.”

The president of Iran and the President of the United States seem like kindred spirits. One year after Ahmadinejad’s rant, Obama wrote in his best-seller, The Audacity of Hope: “I will stand with (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

The winds certainly have shifted, as political tornadoes are part and parcel of the Arab Spring.

Could it be that Obama’s most strategic goals are compromise, compassion and a coupling with Islam?

If true, it borders on treason against the Judeo-Christian values that shaped Western civilization and the United States.  Yet the President’s goal becomes more achievable as we waste our time defending something that not even he can yet take away from us: our 2nd Amendment rights.

The Nation senses that something is wrong. The latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll — taken days before Obama’s second inauguration — showed 57 percent believe America is “on the wrong track.”

Soon, far more Americans will think the Nation and the world are headed in the wrong direction.

Yours in good times and bad,

John Myers
Editor, Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

*Footnote: As president of the National Rifle Association, Charlton Heston gave a speech in 2000 that garnered the attention of both anti- and pro-gun advocates. You can watch that speech here.

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    “A nation…cannot survive treason from within…the traitor …wears the face of his victims…and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation—he works secretly…he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared…….” Cicero, 42 B.C.E.

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      “If any person or persons, owing allegiance to the United States of America, shall levy war against them, or shall adhere to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States, or elsewhere, and shall be thereof convicted on confession in open Court, or on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt [obvious, evident] act of the treason whereof he or they shall stand indicted, SUCH PERSON OR PERSONS SHALL BE ADJUDGED GUILTY OF TREASON AGAINST the United States, and SHALL SUFFER DEATH; and that if any person or persons, having knowledge of the commission of any of the treasons aforesaid, shall conceal, and not, as soon as may be, disclose and make known the same to the President of the United States, or some one of the Judges thereof, or to the President or Governor of a particular State, or some one of the Judges or Justices thereof, such person or persons, on conviction, shall be adjudged guilty of misprision of treason, and shall be imprisoned not exceeding seven years, and fined not exceeding one thousand dollars.” — The Congress of the United States, 1970

      The Power of the Constitutional Sheriff
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MglJf2JSJ8&list=PLT_-h-k1p7sPmRyt0CtATGaENwU4A55Bg&index=7

      • FreedomFighter

        “Could it be that Obama’s most strategic goals are compromise, compassion and a coupling with Islam?”

        Yes, and to bring a quasi-communist fascist style dictatorship. Already Obama is culling the military of leadership that answer NO to: ‘will fire on U.S. citizens’.

        Shock claim: Obama only wants military leaders who ‘will fire on U.S. citizens’
        http://www.examiner.com/article/shock-claim-obama-only-wants-military-leaders-who-will-fire-on-u-s-citizens

        IIn addition, consider the fate of Australian, disarmed years ago by a progressive leftist government, defenseless, skyrocketing crime, home invasion and now the leading militant Islamic Imam in the country has called for JIHAD AGAINST AUSTRALIA and called for the instatement of SHARIA LAW.

        The Australian’s disarmed and defenseless against a ruthless aggressor that has sworn to their demon god to convert or behead non-believers. Germany disarmed and defenseless population are facing Islamists want to bring Jihad to Europe

        WATCH: 8-year-old girl praises jihad at Australian Muslim conference
        http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/watch-8-year-old-girl-praises-jihad-australian-muslim-conference-article-1.1161978

        Muslims have done this in every country they are in, when they have sufficient numbers to do so. What makes you think America is any different?

        Obama wants to disarm AMERICANS for many reasons in my opinion and none of them good for America and Americans.

        Laus Deo
        Semper FI

      • eddie47d

        There are indeed radical Muslims Freedom Fighter and I believe everyone knows that. There are also radical Americans who teach their children the same that the end justifies the means. Have you never seen little kids dressed up in white klan robes spewing racial epitats? How about the neo-Nazi twins Prussian Blue who sang patriotic songs in praise of Christian culture? Why do parents teach their children to hate in various cultures? Why do so many parents want their kids to live in a past that advocated for violence? Truely sad.

      • Kate8

        Well, eddie, I have not seen those hating Christians you describe, but I’ve seen plenty of liberals who hate conservatives/Christians with a vehemence I find shocking in a so-called “free” society. In fact, you’ve just described progressives perfectly.

        Liberals/progressives are, and always have been, the biggest threat to our nation. YOU are the ones who believe the ends justify the means. It’s even in your playbook.

        In the liberal mind, “freedom” only exists as long as you think in lockstep. Anyone who veers from the hive-mindset is viewed as a threat. Nowhere is this more obvious than in politicians, who are crucified if they don’t parrot the leftist agenda. It’s almost comical, how they spout the exact same words, repeating the lie over and over, trying to make people believe it’s true.

        YOU and your Leftist pals here are guilty of treason, working against your country for a paycheck, justifying your treachery in the name of “making a living”. Like the NAZIs and Bolsheviks who lined up Christians and shot them in the head, you are “just following orders”.

        Pathetic. Disgusting. Tragic.

      • JeffH

        Hey dummy, you outed yourself with “There are also radical Americans who teach their children the same that the end justifies the means.”

        That’s the mantra of you radical Marxist/commie progressives isn’t it?

        eddie, pay close attention because what is said below fits you and your anti-Americanism partners like a glove.

        Saul Alinsky was a Chicago community organizer, as was President Barack Obama.

        Saul Alinsky’s revolutionary agenda to be advanced he had to remove the influence of the conscience on the actions of his followers. In other words, they needed to be willing to use any means necessary to achieve the desired end.

        He argued: “…in action, one does not always enjoy the luxury of a decision that is consistent both with one’s individual conscience and the good of mankind. The choice must always be for the latter. Action is for mass salvation and not for the individual’s personal salvation.”

        “To me ethics is doing what is best for the most.” (Rules for Radicals, p. 33)

        Read the whole article at: http://www.thetemplateoftime.com/blog/2012/10/06/the-alinsky-files-obama-and-how-the-end-justifies-the-means/

        This is the morality of hell, because it can be used by anyone to justify any action. There is no absolute right or wrong other than doing whatever is necessary to advance a revolutionary agenda. This is the morality of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and any of the other mass murderers history has belched forth. It would argue the following: medical breakthroughs are for the greatest good. One breakthrough can save the lives of thousands. To achieve this goal as soon as possible we need to experiment on humans. What does the death of a few dozen matter when compared to saving the lives of thousands? According to Mr. Alinsky’s line of thought, this is ethical. It is doing the best for the most. I am certain the sadistic Dr. Mengele thought like this.

        Now how does this relate to President Barack Obama? Is he a conscienceless person, a potentially sociopathic president? Who knows, but when you see the way he used every political trick in the book to ram through his healthcare bill (doing what is best for the most), ignoring the voice of the majority of Americans, disdaining consensus with Republicans on an issue of this magnitude, you can see traces of Mr. Alinsky’s influence. The means were not important, the end was.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        It most certainly IS—-Pathetic. Disgusting. Tragic—-that such a wonderful thing as the human brain can function as badly as Kate8′s does. It’s a also a Shame, Unfathomable, and Entertaining (in a perverse kind of way).

        What kind of a brain could come up with the following? “Liberals/progressives are, and always have been, the biggest threat to our nation. YOU are the ones who believe the ends justify the means”, when anyone with even minimal awareness knows that those who call themselves conservatives are the “biggest threat” They have shown it by the “means” they employ, and were rejected by the voters because of that.

        And how about this? “In the liberal mind, “freedom” only exists as long as you think in lockstep. Anyone who veers from the hive-mindset is viewed as a threat. Nowhere is this more obvious than in politicians, who are crucified if they don’t parrot the leftist agenda”

        Kate8 has obviously forgotten about GROVER and the PLEDGE, which requires all Repugnants to follow the hive-mindset of “no taxes” and crucifies any who don’t “parrot” by knocking them out at the next election. She has also forgotten the Tea Partiers. She has also forgotten that NO equivalency to either of those things exists on the left.

        And this one? “It’s almost comical, how they spout the exact same words, repeating the lie over and over, trying to make people believe it’s true”.

        Yep, it’s really comical to hear “trickle down works, don’t tax the job creators, don’t regulate Wall street—the free markets will keep them in line” and the many other lies from the right that the people are coming to know are NOT true, as the election proved.

        Let me repeat Kate*’s words with some small modifications to better reflect truth and sanity,
        “YOU and your Rightist pals here are guilty of treason in a figurative sense, working against your country because you are deluded and misinformed”

        And, as I said in another post, anyone who would say this—–”Like the NAZIs and Bolsheviks who lined up Christians and shot them in the head, you are “just following orders”—–is truly a poster girl for BATPUCKY CRAZY..

      • Dennis48e

        ” Have you never seen little kids dressed up in white klan robes spewing racial epitats? How about the neo-Nazi twins Prussian Blue who sang patriotic songs in praise of Christian culture?”

        I live in what used to be the heart of KKK country and I have never witnessed that. In fact I have never even witnessed any kind of KKK gathering. I have seen a few small gatherings mentioned and shown on the TV news but that is it. As far as the neo-Nazi twins Prussian Blue, I have never heard of them much less seen/heard them sing anything.

        One other point. As far as I know our home grown supremicist do not seek to export their terrorist like actions to every other country in the world they only keep it here in the US. While that does not make it right it is a fundemental difference in them and the muslim terrorist.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        If Kate8 or Vicki appear, will JeffH be far behind? Obviously the “Shills-n-Trolls-r-Us” shop is cranking up for a full day of work in the dungeon. Kate8 and Vicki have made the coffee (that’s girls’ work) and Jeffy has stepped on all the cockroaches that were there when they turned on the lights (Jeffy doesn’t really like to do that but it’s “man’s work” and Jeffy must do all he can to appear “manly”).

        He begins his day with some of that mindless posturing and chest beating he practices in front of the mirror

        Hey dummy
        you outed yourself
        mantra
        radical Marxist/commie progressives
        fits you like a glove
        anti-Americanism partners

        I can just see Jeffy strutting around the dungeon and going “Yeah—I told eddie”, as he punches the air and does a “Rocky” imitation.

        Jeffy then lays out for us a fact that will become the excuse for all the horsepucky he then throws against the wall. He says, “Saul Alinsky was a Chicago community organizer, as was President Barack O’Bama”. Perfectly correct. Alinsky has also been dead for over FORTY years. Alinsky was also praised as “being very close to a genius” by William F. Buckley (remember him—a notorious LEFTY, if every there wasn’t one).

        In fact, Alinsky was much admired by many of the right wing organizers that the Repugnants have spawned since the 1970′s. For instance, to quote a less biased source than Jeffy’s.

        “Adam Brandon, a spokesman for the conservative non-profit organization FreedomWorks, which is one of several groups involved in organizing Tea Party protests, says the group gives Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals to its top leadership members. A shortened guide called Rules for Patriots is distributed to its entire network. In a January 2012 story that appeared in The Wall Street Journal, citing the organization’s tactic of sending activists to town-hall meetings, Brandon explained, “his tactics when it comes to grass-roots organizing are incredibly effective.” Former Republican House Majority Leader Dick Armey also gives copies of Alinsky’s book Rules for Radicals to Tea Party leaders.”

        Read Armey’s book on the Tea Party if you want to see how much Armey likes Alinsky and praises his work..

        Jeffy then gives us a bunch of disjointed quotes or interpretations of Alinsky, probably (and rather sloppily) taken from the link he cites, and launches into one of the most incredibly stupid things he has EVER said,

        “According to Mr. Alinsky’s line of thought….. I am certain the sadistic Dr. Mengele thought like this”.

        For those who are unaware of history, Mengele was a NAZI concentration camp doctor who tortured and experimented on inmates, most of whom were JEWISH, and Alinsky WAS A JEW. Trying too hard to look smart, Jeffy was, and I predict JAY will soon reach over the top of the cubicle to whack Jeffy upside the head AGAIN for being so stupid as to mention Alinsky and Mengele in the same breath, never mind say they thought alike (that last deserves a whack with a book, not an open hand).

        Jeffy finishes with an intellectual and rhetorical horsepucky flourish and asks, “Now how does this relate to President Barack Obama?…..you can see traces of Mr. Alinsky’s influence”. You sure as heck can see “traces”, Jeffy. O’Bama is a smart man, as are Buckley, Armey, and all the other conservatives who praise Alinsky and use his work to advance right wing causes.

        Somehow I think you missed whatever point you were trying to make, Jeffy. But I will say that “Mengele and Alinsky thought alike” is going to replace your “$63 billion Clinton deficit” as the thing I’ll most remember you for.

      • Kate8

        RBT – Oooooohhhhhh. Methinks I’ve hit a nerve.

        Can’t take the heat, huh? You’ve been outed…. all of you. The gig’s nearly up.

      • Don

        So Eddie states that there are radical Muslim freedom fighters and everyone knows that. What do the terms “moderate Muslim” and “extremist(radical) Muslim” actually mean? Only Islam can define what a Muslim is. According to The Islamic Trilogy, a Muslim is anyone who follows the pattern(Sunna) of Mohammed. What unbelievers(Westerners) call a moderate, i.e. peaceful, Muslim is actually a Muslim behaving as Mohammed did when he lived in Mecca. And an extremist(radical) Muslim is really a Medinan Muslim, one following the words and actions of the Prophet when he lived in Medina. Unbelievers(Westerners) call Osama Bin Laden an extremist Muslim, but his actions were carefully based upon those of Mohammed in Medina. Bin Laden, like all jihadists, was a devout Muslim following the Koran of Medina. As far as the Koran is concerned, an extremist Muslim is one who leaves the religion, an apostate. Both persuasion-jihad and domination-jihad can be applied as needed. Both peace and violence advance Islam; and accordingly, both are considered to be good and true. Both are Islam.

      • JeffH

        Stay focused Half Wit Thinker, for your own self importance, stay focused!

        And, as in uffish thought he stood,

        The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,

        Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,

        And burbled as it came!

        Beware the Jabberwock, my son!

      • Vicki

        Kate8 says:
        “Can’t take the heat, huh? You’ve been outed…. all of you. The gig’s nearly up.”

        I did notice the conspicuous absence of the “usual suspects” in the 3 other gun debates today.
        “Gun Control In Senate Likely A Tough Sell”
        “An Easy Way To Voice Your Concerns On New Gun Laws”

        and my favorite because it answers the age old question “do guns kill people?”
        http://personalliberty.com/2013/01/23/do-guns-kill-people-pistol-shotgun-assault-rifle-put-to-the-test/

      • speedle

        Right Brain Thinker, you seem to be able to ramble on and on with no apparent coherence. Do you ever go back and re-read your rants? They are nonsensical slogans without any rationalization. If you want to make a point make it, and a little back up to your claims would be nice.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Silly RBT, he foolishly allows himself to be wound-up like a top and turned into a clown by Jeffh and company. I’m starting to feel rather sorry and embarrassed for RBT. The poor dumb dumb…

      • Right Brain Thinker

        JeffH smarrly evades dealing with his “Alinsky Fail”—–his fellow shils-n-trolls must have whacked him good upside the head and he’s being careful. A cute little poem—how nice! WHAT ABOUT MENGELE AND ALINSKY AND ARMEY AND BUCKLEY AND THE TEA PARTY?

        Vicki quotes Kate8 (LOL) and flirts some with “I’ve missed you on the other thread”. Dang, Vicki, I’ve told you I’m an old guy and you run too fast as you hide from me….I have a real life, too, so I haven’t looked in on all threads today—enough mindlessness to combat on this one anyway..

        And an unfamiliar name pops up.
        speedle must not like what I say because he makes the same kind of mindless attacks on me that others do rather than on the substance of what I say, and makes no intelligent response to any of it. Is he trying to distract me?

        OK, speedle—-point out some things I have said that have “no apparent coherence” and I will attempt to make them “coherent”
        speedle asks, “Do you ever go back and re-read your rants?” Yes I do, speed.
        and he then says something nonsensical when he says “They are nonsensical slogans without any rationalization.” The only slogans I use are meant to point out the nonsensical slogans of others—-point out some of my slogans that are “nonsensical”, explain why you think they are nonsensical, and I will put them into words that make sense for you.

        speedle closes with, “If you want to make a point make it, and a little back up to your claims would be nice” To that I reply, I make many points, speed, and I think the problem is on YOUR end—-you need some lessons in reading comprehension and thinking. .And what “claims” do you want me to back up? Ask and I shall do so.

        All in all, speedle, while I don’t begrudge you the right to run your mouth and look foolish, you really haven’t said much here—-I’ve invited you to do several things here to back up your “mouth”—-take me up on them or go away.

      • Kate8

        Wow. RBT is really coming unhinged.

        Funny how progs start throwing tantrums when they don’t get their way. They just can’t take being called on their nonsense.

        Turn around’s fair play, like my mom always said. Kharma’s really a bummer when it comes around to bit you in the behind.

        Get used to it, RBT. The fun has just begun.

        ROFLMAO.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        And JAY arrives for work at “Shills-n-Trolls-r-Us”—-has he smacked JeffH upside the head yet for the “Alinsky Fail”? He is apparently trying to distract us by making the absurd suggestion that I could be “wound-up like a top and turned into a clown by Jeffh and company”. I am always “wound up” enough to deal with stupidity—that’s why I was so good at what I did in the schools. Knowledge, brains, focus, intensity—-go get some.

        Nice try at the “sniff-sniff” and “looking-down-the-nose of condescension” with
        “I’m starting to feel rather sorry and embarrassed for RBT. The poor dumb dumb…”

        I hate to tell you this while your nose is up in the air, JAY, but your fly is unzipped and we can see your underwear (and it doesn’t look too clean).

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Kate8 is back! And JAY has clocked in. Now I’m surrounded. Good. As Chesty Puller said, “All right, they’re on our left, they’re on our right, they’re in front of us, they’re behind us…they can’t get away this time”.

        Kate8 regales us with her usual mindlessness. But she shows her “human” side by telling us little family story—–”Mom always said. Kharma’s really a bummer when it comes around to bit you in the behind”. (Kharma was the family dog, and was likely a Khaki color, hence the name)

        “They just can’t take being called on their nonsense. Get used to it, RBT. The fun has just begun”, says Kate.

        I like fun, Kate, when does it begin? Soon, I hope? I’m getting bored with hearing you talk about “calling someone on something”—-you have done nothing but spout foolishness here. Please, stop boring me—-call me out on something—–how about on what I said as I pointed out JeffH’s “Alinsky Fail”?

      • JeffH

        Ahhh gooood! Half Wit hasn’t lost his focus…that’s a good thing aye Jay, Kate8 and Vicki?

        I had a cat once that chased his tail most of the day and half of the night, often befuddled because he couldn’t catch his tail. He’d get exhausted and give up, lay down and take a snooze then clean himself up, even the end of his tail. Then he’d get up again, notice his tail luring him into chasing it again and voila…here he goes again.

        He wasn’t to bright either. :)

      • Wil

        Eddie, so it is a mental disorder. Only a misomaniac (someone obsessed with hating a particular subject or group) could see patriotism or Christian values as hate speech.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Better call the boys with the butterfly nets, RBT is having a meltdown! Breath, RBT, breath…what a flake!

      • eddie47d

        Don says that “Eddie states there are radical Muslim freedom fighters and everyone knows that” . Pull your head out DON for I was replying to Freedom Fighter if you care to pay attention. Now you are sounding like Bill who keeps saying things I have never said. “Conservatives” sure become confused easy and love to misquote. I thank that is more proof in why they lost the election.

      • Kate8

        RBT is hilarious. He thinks he can get us worked up with his idiotic rants, and all he does is fume and get himself in a lather. LOL.

        Of course, that happens when you are not secure in your position and you have little to justify it. When we speak truth it stands on its own, and we have no need to justify ourselves. Besides, we come from a place where everyone is entitled to his own perspective, so long as he doesn’t try to infringe on others.

        “Infringe” would be a good thing to think about for progressives, because the only way they ever get their plans advanced is by shouting over (and crushing) others who disagree with them.

        In case the progs still don’t get it… Most of us couldn’t care less what you believe. Just leave us alone. We don’t need you to tell us how to live.

      • eddie47d

        Well Kate 8 you need to get out more. I have seen both extreme leftists and extreme elements on the right. I was responding to Freedom Fighter who always makes those same old claims that you do that one side is out to get you without exposing the other side. In other words you are still stuck in the right wing trenches and blind to the truth.

      • eddie47d

        We know Jeff H’s glove doesn’t fit because it is soaked in blood and as we all know leather shrinks when soaked like Jeff’s noggin! I bet Jeff has attended a Prussian Blue concert the way he ducked away from my comment and started the usual false accusations.

      • eddie47d

        Wil: The Nazi’s were “patriotic and Christian” if you are that spastic and can’t think too deep.

      • JeffH

        Kate8, I found it rather amusing that Half Wit would even attempt to deflect by using the FreedomWork/Armey/Tea Party – Alinsky scenario.

        Duh! know thy enemy and it’s even easier if you have study and understand their playbook…much the same way great generals have studied The Art of War. Go figure!

      • Robert Smith

        Hey Kate8, you posted: “Besides, we come from a place where everyone is entitled to his own perspective, so long as he doesn’t try to infringe on others.”

        Really? Thanks for posting your usual lie, but you don’t really offer such.

        For example, you don’t tolerate the difference that a bunch of gooy cells aren’t what an individual woman can decide what to do with.

        Recreational drugs… Only the “christian” blood is approved as alcohol.

        Rob

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Robert: For example, you don’t tolerate the difference that a bunch of gooy cells aren’t what an individual woman can decide what to do with.

        A little weak on the grammar, hey Rob?

      • Kate8

        Robert Smith – I have repeatedly stated that, since you are a paid shill, you are not here to converse, or even debate, but only to continue to pound your Leftist mantras regardless of what any of us say in response to your idiotic attacks.

        You are the liar. The only statements I ever make on these issues (and I don’t like discussing them at all with progs) is that I believe that government should stay completely out of them. These are personal issues, best left to personal accountability.

        Yet, you repeatedly attribute such statements to me and others who also do not comment on them. I have also answered these declarations from you on numerous occasions. It is plain that you a. do not read responses to your nonsense, b. do not comprehend what people say, or c. you disregard whatever anyone says in order to be inflammatory and provocative.

        Buzz off. I for one have had more than enough of your BS.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        eddie: The Nazi’s were “patriotic and Christian” if you are that spastic and can’t think too deep.

        Wrong! The Nazi’s were white-supremacists and Roman-Catholic.

        Here’s all the proof you need:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9zBX4gt0eo&bpctr=1359001858

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        RBT: Kate8 is back! And JAY has clocked in. Now I’m surrounded. Good. As Chesty Puller said, “All right, they’re on our left, they’re on our right, they’re in front of us, they’re behind us…they can’t get away this time”.

        Who’s “they”, RBT. And are “they” coming to get ya? You are at your best, it seems, when you are fighting “imaginary” enemies. Well, whatever works…carry on soldier!

      • http://www.facebook.com/sirwilliambolton William Wiley Bolton

        The problem is Obama does not owe allegiance to the USA. He was born in a British protectorate in Africa before it became Kenya. His real birth records are in Lew, Surrey, British Archives. After that he became Indonesian by adoption. So the fact is that he is an enemy elected to power by a corrupt criminal party. An enemy is not a traitor, but in their own eyes a patriot of Islam.

        • Jeff

          So go file a lawsuit. There are still plenty of right wingers on the bench appointed by W. Go have a good time.

      • Motov

        I have to inform you the KKK was created by the Democratic Party, Yet they still play the race card?

        • Jeff

          And Lincoln was a Republican. How long since the Republicans were the Party of Lincoln? Probably 100 years. Since at least 1968 they’ve been the Party of Jefferson Davis. That’s about the time Strom switched from Dixiecrat to Republican.

    • ALL AMERICAN

      Excellent find Alondra!

    • Joe Menyo

      I think Prince Harry states the situation very eloquently. The NRA, hunters and the older generation view guns as both a means of defense and as a weapon but see killing and murder very differently than the younger generation of today who view it as a video game or a action movie on the big screen in a very impersonal way and unrelated to human tragedy or violence but more as a routine everyday experience part of today’s culture. .

    • Nick Czudy

      To John Meyer.
      You have put smile on my face this morning when I read your theory.
      I reinforces my 80/20 theory.
      Of the two parties, the GOP and Right Wing are 80% run by loons and have the craziest of theories. John, I know that you are doing this for profit, because this loose part of the American population are weak minded and tend to believe everything that they are told from another right wing person of renown. You will prosper from this group and your are a troll for them. You will be able to sell them your energy securities and they will believe anything that you tell them.

      What really is amazing is how quickly your followers jump on board and accept your assertions with gusto.
      So from Obama the Muslim, born in Kenya, we are now putting forward the idea that Obama has a secret agenda to let the Muslim radicals take over the USA and suppress all of its Patriots and take away their guns. He is a closet dedicated and devote Muslim. really? haha Geeeez.

      I am not sure where this ever started, but this whole notion of the USA being founded on Christian/Judeo values. Where does this come from?
      I have long known that it is dangerous for any deeply religious person or faction to rule a country. Look at Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran. Having someone that believes in some mystic hokey pokey making, up bull [expletive deleted] to kill and oppress its citizens is just wrong. It has killed more people in the world than any thing else.

      We need leaders who will make rational decisions to govern by reason, debate, economic, civil and mostly sane policies.
      What you are translating as the defacto standard of America being a country based on Christian/Judeo principles is the problem. I have seen that Obama has been trying to make the US government more secular and not run by religions. Every move and policy that he has initiated has carefully tried to keep any religious factors out of his day to day governing. he did not make a big deal of the Day of Prayer and other religious events. How you right wing people, see this secularism in his governing as leaning towards the Muslims religion and making him out as a Muslim fanatic makes my mind reel. He is trying to keep all religions out of the US government. that is all.
      What you are seeing as his diplomatic sensitivity and respect in dealing with Muslim countries, as him wholeheartedly embracing the Muslim faith is ridiculous. He is a very well educated man, and the thought that he is becoming a Muslim is absolutely crazy. He is a smart leader that realizes that with 1.4 billion Muslims in this world, it will not help things to agitate them and make more enemies for the USA.
      You seem to think that a modern, educated man, with a deep and intelligent mind, can be swayed so easily into embracing the Muslim religion, as his overriding life philosophy, is crazy. I know that he knows that religion, is a old nostalgic belief that he has to be sensitive to.

      If it were that easy, myself and other people on this site, would have embraced your extreme ideas, expressed on this site, and we would have been swayed over to your point of view. After all, you have made your point with such a overwhelming proof and evidence. We would be so weak minded to buy your ranting as the gospel truth. Give us a break. We are not that stupid and most Americans are also not that stupid. That is why they have given Obama another 4 years. Obama is not a religious fanatic.

      Obama has been trying to be civil and diplomatic to all faiths and based on the statistics that the Muslim world has a population of about 1.4 billion people it might be a good idea to try and be civil and not antagonize the Muslim world to hate America even more. Bush and Cheney tried to push around the Middle Eat and see what it did? You have seen how extreme they are. They will not hesitate to martyr themselves when they are asked to do something crazy like blowing themselves up against the enemy. All of you Right Wing gun fanatics, all say that your guns will have to be pried from your cold dead fingers. Do you see a resemblance? haha Most of the people on this site are eating up this hate mongering and are taking the bait, hook, line and sinker. Are you just as fanatic as the Muslim zealots are?

      Obama will keep religion out of his policy decisions and therefore make government as secular as the founding fathers designed it to be. I had severe fears if Palin and McCain had won the 2nd last election. I dream t that McCain had died from natural causes and President Palin, woke up one morning and was being told by God that she needed to push the big Red Button, because the Muslims were going to take over the world. We do not want to have leaders that believe in such esoteric ideas of what is needed in the world. we cannot have weak minded people have this much power in this world. I am for all world governments to rule as a secular rule and get all religion out of government and keep it in the personal hearts and minds of its followers.

      So I can assure all of you paranoid, gun toting fanatics that Obama will not be ruled or guided by any religious dogma and forces. It will not happen. He will not let the Muslim faith take over the USA and instill Sharia law.
      I can also assure you that he will not take away your 2nd amendment gun rights and all of your guns.
      I understand, that since you have lost the last two elections, that your existence is being challenged. So I can see that you need to try and influence future elections by rigging the vote. All of the republican led states are trying to implement district changes to skew any future elections. I know that your politicians will try and do anything possible to try and smear the current administration. Sen McCain has lost any respect that I have had with him, with his continuing rant about Benghazi. Is he concerned about the safety of all of the embassies world wide and fixing any problems that took place for future security. No, he is going on about what Susan Rice said for political gain. I know that if this situation was reversed and the GOP were in power, that they would be devious enough, to have done just such a charade, if it promoted their political cause. Just because they have no morals about doing anything despicable to regain power, it does not mean that the Democratic Party will also do these types of things. That is what I have learned from the last few years and that is why I have shifted over to support the Obama admin. I am sick of corruption and ruthless politics.
      Now that is what you should all be fearful of. The GOP want to get back supreme power and they and their Plutocrats will take control of the masses and make them even more poor and desperate, You will need to have a lot of fire power, so that you will be able to hold off the poor masses who in desperation will have to revolt and start a revolution. You will need your guns then. Or you will let Obama continue of his reforms that will bring America back to being the strongest and most respected country in this world.

      Carry on with your delusional rants, It will make me smile and I will be entertained by your conspiracies. regards Nick Cz

      • JUKEBOX

        John Meyer forgot to mention one thing that makes Obama and Holder such big buddies, which is their conspiracy in Fast& Furious, and giving the Black Panthers a pass in their voting harrassment case.

        • Nick Czudy

          Juke box

          Fast and Furious started before Eric Holder took over the Justice department. They were obstructed in tracing the straw buyers from the Arizona justice dept. This is not something that you can put him to blame. An independent panel absolved Eric Holder from any conspiracy. This was Rep Issa’s witch hunt, hoping that he could find some cover up from the Justice dept. He came up empty. What a fool and they waste the tax payers money running after things that did not happen. It happened again with all of the hoop lah over Susan Rice, over saying that it was a Muslim movie. Again, Rep Issa was desperately trying to show some cover up; Again it didn’t happen. He is motivated more by political gain than the truth and the remedy.

          I know nothing about the Black Panthers so I cannot speak to that. Sorry. Nick Cz

      • Don

        Nick Czudy, thank you for guaranteeing that Obama will not take away our 2ND. Amendment rights. Whew…..I feel better already knowing you are on the job. I hear what you say about this Christian/Judeo founding of America thing. I guess since government apparently gave us this Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness stuff, then government can also take it away, and that’s O.K. with you right? Thank goodness for this Obama guy, huh. I feel so much better with him in charge, especially knowing that his mentor was Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Communist Party U.S.A. It is also reassuring that the Muslim population will not hate us as much now that Barry is in charge. I guess you got this Islam thing all figured out. How could the rest of us have been so stupid? And like you said, this Obama guy is really, really, really smart; too smart for the rest of us to figure out. I mean, you saw his college grades, right? And I would never be suspicious of this Obama guy, just because he was a self-declared Marxist when he entered Occidental College. But you already knew that, right? Thanks for clearing everything up for us Nick, Before your posting, I was one of those right-wingnut conservative constitutional guys, but now I’ve been found. Nick Czudy For President!

        • Nick Czudy

          Don.
          thanks for your reply. It is amazing how you all know internal thoughts of Obama when people that he works with, are not aware of his demented inner thoughts.

          the gov, gave you the constitution and the republic has grown and progressed to be a shining example of how a free and moral society behave.

          A black and democratic, well educated, intelligent, moral and thoughtful president gets in and all of a sudden there is a risk of the USA will turn their guns on the people and exterminate them.
          I wonder why Obama even bothered with the stimulus. To improve unemployment, when if he let the country go to pot, there could have been riots and insurrections as the starving people would have been trying to take from the ones with all of the food and wealth. then his evil plan to un arm the population could have started sooner.
          He really missed out on that one.
          I am not sure if you got this Muslim thing figured out. I would like to hear what you think it is. The one thing that you can rest easy with, is Obama’s life is not in turmoil, wondering on the meaning of life, and looking for some answers from organized religion, to put his soul at ease. He will not go Muslim or Hindu or Buddhism or even evangelical baptists. You can rest easy there. Going all religious on us will never happen. Once a leftie has grown up and realized that religion, was opium for the masses, and does not put his life and future under the control of some omnipotent being up high controlling his destiny, he will make decisions based on real factors. That is the kind of person, that I want governing my country. It really insults everyone’s intelligence, that he is influenced by some devious religious underlying dogma. Get real.

          College marks have nothing to do with his intelligence today. Oh, I see that was another conspiracy, Marxism, communism, he was gay when in Chicago. On and on. Where do you guys get all of this stuff. How do sane people on this site, respond to this stuff.

          You guys must be smoking some of the magic weed, But I do not think so. they become docile and easy going. it does not make you into some desperate conspiracy nuts

          (snip) You said,,,,,,”I was one of those right-wingnut conservative constitutional guys, but now I’ve been found.”

          I would like to assure you that you do not have to worry, you are still one of those right-wingnut conservative guys. It is odd that what you call conservatives is not what you are. Really, you are more extreme and out in the fringe, You cannot call this being conservative. You need to debate on real life issues and not this trumped up rhetoric.

          I could not be the president. I was born in Kenya.
          regards
          Nick Cz

        • Nick Czudy

          Don, thank you very much. I am so pleased that I have been able to put your mind at ease. Maybe tonight you will sleep better and wake up with a more optimistic view on the world. My warmest regards. Nick Cz

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Great thoughts. Nick. I’m sorry I didn’t see it sooner but I’ve been busy swatting at some of the gnuttier gnats among the PLD mindless. I see that a couple of them have already replied to your comment. Get ready, some of them read very slowly, but I’m sure they will catch up with you before bedtime. Stick around PLD and share more of your thoughts—some of us appreciate people who can think rather than just parrot mindless slogans.

        • Nick Czudy

          Ahhh shucks my head is swelling. :) it is nice to know that there are some rational people on this site. I ask myself, why I spend so much time on this site, as it does take hours to read and respond to some of them.
          I guess I do chuckle some times, because some of the comments are right out of this galaxy. But I also start to understand how some of them think, how they were brought up and how they must live their life. I gain from the knowledge and experience.
          I am tempted to get in the gutter sometimes and start tossing insults as well. But then I would be just like them. I catch myself. But it is amazing what comes out of their mouths.

          My warmest regards.
          Nick Cz

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Thanks Don, that was a beautiful summation of the Leftist’s gushing love affair with O. He doesn’t have to lift a finger, they fall over themselves just loving him so.

      • JeffH

        This is really a funny one. Appreciate your sense of humor.

        Half Wit says “some of us appreciate people who can think rather than just parrot mindless slogans.”

        Slogans like: do it for the children, eat the rich, redistribute the wealth, ban all assault weapons(they actually are banned), Gun free zones save lives?

        Then there are those hundreds of millions who are actually smart enough to understand, appreciate and believe that ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM.

        ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.

        Join us in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT

        STOP IT

        STOP IT NOW

      • Wil

        Wow, yet another weak-minded, narcissistic pseudointellectual attempting to paint all belief systems as exactly the same. So tell us, genius, exactly how many Christians have you heard of beheading people for refusing to convert to their faith? Obviously you still have your empty head.

        • Nick Czudy

          Wil
          (snip) You said…..So tell us, genius, exactly how many Christians have you heard of beheading people for refusing to convert to their faith”

          Wow you don’t know? How about the Crusades 1 to 3 million deaths. the brutality would make some of our violent video games, look like kindergarten stuff. There were some very brutal killing, like skewering some one from their butt to their head, on the end of a spear and planting them in the fields. that was about 1100 ad. the French religious wars. 1562 ad,. About 2 to 4 million people. The 30 years war.in 1718. About 3 to 11 million deaths. Religion has been responsible for so much death and anguish in this world.
          My thoughts are that religious people do not have a monopoly on truth, morals, and kindness. So when the world gets to the point that we will respect everyone, an treat them morally without the threat of eternal damnation and hell or 70 virgins in heaven, then there will truly be peace and prosperity in this world.
          Yes that also means right and left hanging together and being civil. Wow how could that ever happen?
          haha. Nick Cz

      • Frank Kahn

        Does Nick need another lesson in reality?

        • Nick Czudy

          Yes Frank. Please enlighten me. I need your guidance and wisdom. sincerely yours Nick

          • Frank Kahn

            Do I need to go point by point or will a generalization be sufficient?

      • Don

        Nick, I can’t do this anymore. Trying to get you libs to understand the facts as opposed to the B.S. of the lamestream Obama controlled (Pravda) press is like trying to teach my dog how to speak Latin. There was a study done awhile back which concluded that liberals do have a missing gene.You’re just not capable of understanding facts and logic.

        • Nick Czudy

          Don. I am still waiting for some facts. I have not seen any.

      • eddie47d

        The mainstream media can be right on the money in what they say and sometimes they are more accurate that FOX and their talking heads. The alphabet channels also have their questionable talking heads but their news isn’t that far off.

      • Don

        Sorry Nick, quite frankly, guys with your mentality are a waste of my time and energy, and not worthy of further dialogue. I spent years dealing with the same mentality in union people when I was a department head. Nothing personal, but I’m retired now, and no longer need to deal with socialist on a daily basis.

        • Nick Czudy

          Sorry to hear that Don. even if you are 70 years, old I am sure that you have some valuable ideas to share with us. You just need to back up with a reason why you think as you do. that is all. I will miss you. warm regards NicK Cz

      • Kinetic1

        Don,
        Perhaps this is the study you were referring to?
        “Researchers also noted that Democrats had larger anterior cingulate cortexes, which are associated with tolerance to uncertainty, while Republicans had larger right amygdalas, which are associated with sensitivity to fear.” http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/09/03/conservatives-and-liberals-have-different-brains-studies-show/

        Or perhaps it was this one?
        “it is the crucial interaction of two factors — the genetic predisposition and the environmental condition of having many friends in adolescence — that is associated with being more liberal.” http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101027161452.htm

        Either way, it’s not a “missing gene” or a case of abnormality. In fact, if these studies suggest a negative societal or behavioral issue with the brains of one particular political group …..

        • Nick Czudy

          KInetic1 Thanks for the links. it is the first time that I have heard of that research.

          Haha what if it is true. Maybe that will explain why there is such a difference in the two factions. We will have to see what further research comes up with in the future.
          So that would suggest that we are born to be one side or the other. This is freeky. haha
          regards
          Nick Cz

      • Vicki

        Don says:
        “Nick, I can’t do this anymore. Trying to get you libs to understand the facts as opposed to the B.S. of the lamestream Obama controlled (Pravda) press is like trying to teach my dog how to speak Latin.”

        Don. Don’t worry about getting them to understand stuff. Keep in mind that there are lots of people reading and we point out the errors of fact, and logic so that those readers will not be as easily fooled by the stuff that the liberals write here.

        • Nick Czudy

          Vickie, what you all seem to indicate as facts are things that you have read on this blog or heard on Fox or from Rush Limbaugh. these are not facts. don’t you understand that things that you hear under the GOP right Wing bubble are not facts? they are partisan talking points. they do not have to be true. It is good enough that you believe that they are true. Mitt’s whole campaign was based on these facts. they did not have to be true. It is enough that the base under the bubble believe that they are true.

          • Frank Kahn

            Actually you are also describing the Obama bubble.

      • Vicki

        Nick Czudy says:
        “Wil
        (snip) You said…..So tell us, genius, exactly how many Christians have you heard of beheading people for refusing to convert to their faith”

        Wow you don’t know? How about the Crusades 1 to 3 million deaths.”

        Would you consider joining us in a recent century? Say the 20th or 21st? Though I am sure we could go on at great length of the atrocities perpetrated during the Crusades, he was probably talking about current events.

        • Nick Czudy

          Ok Vicki how about the Serbians and Milan Koradic. (spelling?) killing a whole village of Muslim Bosnians and burying them in a mass graves? Are you kidding me, religion is the cause of more deaths than any other wars.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Nick: Vickie, what you all seem to indicate as facts are things that you have read on this blog or heard on Fox or from Rush Limbaugh. these are not facts. don’t you understand that things that you hear under the GOP right Wing bubble are not facts?

        Where then, are the facts to be found, Nick? Where do you, go for the facts? Could you share some of your, trusted-sources?

        • Nick Czudy

          Jay, Just use Google. Look at non-partisan agencies, Look at the News agencies. But you cannot listen to Fox or this web site. they are trolls to keep saying things that get your blood boiling. they profit from that. regards Nick Cz

      • Matrix

        As I read these absurd post created by the mindless freaks of America, I realize why this grand corruptor is able to steal the seat of president of the United States of America, and see the fight ahead for real Americans!

        Liberalism is truly a mental disorder, just as homosexuality, child molesters, rapist, Satanist and every immoral conviction the common liberal supports!

        Don’t waste time arguing with these idiots, for most are not even American, and the ones that claim to be are not worth a minute of your time!

        Concentrate on your family and God!

        For every moment wasted on these freaks, is a moment wasted, as are their souls…….lost forever.

        • Nick Czudy

          Hi Matrix. God bless you. Oh by the way, he is alive and well and is lining in Kenya. regards Nick Cz

      • Buster the Anatolian

        Nick Czudy says:
        January 23, 2013 at 2:54 pm
        Juke box

        “Fast and Furious started before Eric Holder took over the Justice department. ”

        Nick your first sentence totaly destroys any credibility you might have had. That statement has been proven to be a lie over and over and over on this site as well as other places.

        • Nick Czudy

          Buster Fast and Furious stated in Feb 2006 and was called “Operation Fast receiver.” It went on the premise of letting guns get bought by straw purchasers to be able to get the ring leaders. then in 2009, the Arizona ATF continued the operation and called it “fast and furious”
          here is the link that has a reasonable explanation.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal

          regards

          Nick cz

      • Vicki

        Nick Czudy says:
        “Ok Vicki how about the Serbians and Milan Koradic. (spelling?) killing a whole village of Muslim Bosnians and burying them in a mass graves?”

        Correct spelling “Serbians and Milan Karadzic”. 22 thousand google hits.
        I also tried just serbian religion and found that it is a secular nation.
        http://www.mapsofworld.com/serbia/people-culture-festivals/religion.html

        You will have to actually sit down and provide links to your assertion.

        - Nick Czudy: ‘Are you kidding me, religion is the cause of more deaths than any other wars.”

        Since “religion” is not a subset of “war” your statement makes no sense. Did you want to restate?

        • Nick Czudy

          Hi Vickie. thanks for the link to the Serbian info. Yes as you said technically the Serbian country has a policy of being secular. In other words they do not officailly claim a particular religion as belonging to the whole country. But reading a little further down the article I came across this statement…………
          .”The years from 1766 to 1832 saw a major struggle between the Ottoman rule and the Serbian Orthodox church that pose as the protector of the native Serbians. Today, the Serbian Orthodox church has resorted to autonomy and almost 45% to 50% of the Serbian citizens follow this religious sect of Christianity.”

          The Ottoman rule that they are referring to is basic Muslims, that came into the country and formed the predominant Bosnian culture. I know many Serbians and it was clear that the Genocide was religiously motivated. Ask any Serbian.

          So technically, it is on the borderline.
          Another source of strife that we can include in this discussion is strife between the Irish Catholics and the British Protestants.

          So I will stand by my first claim.
          Nick Cz

      • Vicki

        Nick Czudy says:
        “Buster Fast and Furious stated in Feb 2006 and was called “Operation Fast receiver.”

        Even ABC knows the difference
        —————————————————
        In actuality, the Fast and Furious program was started in October 2009, nine months into the Obama presidency.

        Previous programs involving ATF agents allowing guns to “walk” across the border so as to trace them were run during the Bush presidency, but not this particular “field-initiated program.”
        _________________________________
        http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/president-obama-falsely-claims-fast-and-furious-program-begun-under-the-previous-administration/

        Your source describes and identifies the 2 operations as TWO and different.
        (search for 2009–2011: Operation Fast and Furious in the link provided by Nick)

      • Vicki

        Matrix writes:
        “For every moment wasted on these freaks, is a moment wasted, as are their souls…….lost forever.”

        We do not waste the moment for the people who come here to learn may be taken in by false and deceptive arguments. Thus we combat their emotion with facts and learned opinion. Some facts are self evident such as

        ~300 MILLION Americans did not shoot anyone

        Stop punishing the innocent for the actions of a few

        Others are more convoluted so we provide links to support our assertions such as

        Fast and furious is a different operation from wide receiver.
        http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/president-obama-falsely-claims-fast-and-furious-program-begun-under-the-previous-administration/

        • Nick Czudy

          Vickie.
          Yes you are correct to say that fast and furious and is a different operation from “fast receiver” what I said was the the Arizona ATF field office instigated the Fast and Furious operation based on the wide receiver operation. Eric Holder and the Justice dept. did not know of this and did not start this operation. You are all blaming Eric Holder for this and that is not accurtate. regards Nick Cz

      • JeffH

        Nick erroeously says “Buster Fast and Furious stated in Feb 2006 and was called “Operation Fast receiver.””.

        No Nick, how on earth could it be called Fast and Furious if the 2006 operation was named Operation Fast Reciever when there never was any ATF/DOJ operation called “operation fast reciever”

        Now, I’m sure you meant Operation Wide Reciever.

        The insinuation is that Fast and Furious is somehow a continuation of the Bush-era operation. The only problem with that theory is that it’s not true.

        First and foremost, operation Wide Receiver did not result in the death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent or an Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officer. Fast and Furious did.

        Second, Wide Receiver, though flawed, was more of a gun-tracing operation than a gun-walking program. Gun-tracing involves putting specific safeguards in place to track firearms, such as RFID chips perhaps with video or aerial surveillance. Gun-walking is what happened in Fast and Furious, where ATF agents sold thousands of guns without a reliable way to recover them, apparently just hoping for the best.

        In fact, ATF agents involved in Fast and Furious have previously testified that they were ordered to stand down and not track the weapons even when interdiction was possible and instead “took notes” and let the guns walk across the Mexico border.

        Perhaps the most convincing piece of evidence proving the two operations are separate from each other is the fact that Wide Receiver was shut down in 2007 shortly after it was clear the program was a failure. This was before Obama was even in office and nearly two years before Fast and Furious began.

        Fast and Furious wasn’t shut down until late 2010 after the deaths of hundreds of Mexicans, a border agent and an ICE officer.

        Finally, unlike Fast and Furious, officials involved in Wide Receiver were reportedly in close contact with Mexican authorities during the operation, though how involved Mexican officials were is not entirely known.

        What is known is that Mexican authorities were kept completely in the dark during Fast and Furious, according to the Mexican ambassador to the U.S. Mexico. He announced on June 1, 2012, that Mexico would be launching its own probe into Fast and Furious.

        It should be perfectly clear that both the Bush and Obama administration conducted two separate, flawed operations. One, however, was a much deadlier and larger operation.

        • Nick Czudy

          JeffH. You are absolutely correct. I made a word error and called operation “Wide Receiver” fast receiver.

          You are mostly also correct that the two operations were totally seperate. I just said that the fast and furious was based on former.

          Now I stand corrected on your information, It sounds like you are the more informed.

          Can you tell me if the fast and furious was instigated by the ATF?

          And if the answer is yes, was it instigated with or without the knowledge of the Justice Dept.?

          Thanks
          Nick Cz

          • JeffH

            Operation Fast and Furious was a program carried out by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), a division of the U.S. Justice Department.

            House oversight committee chairman Darrell Issa said Tuesday(6/2012) that congressional investigators now have documents that prove senior officials in Attorney General Eric Holder’s Department of Justice approved gun-walking in Operation Fast and Furious.

            Holder denied the fact that senior Department of Justice officials were aware of gun-walking tactics used in Fast and Furious.

            Issa said the wiretap applications his committee has obtained “were approved by senior Justice Department officials in March, April, May, June and July 2010.”

            http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/05/documents-prove-senior-justice-officials-approved-of-fast-and-furious-issa-says/#ixzz2IxIXZrKO

            “We now know all that all of these statements are not accurate,” Issa wrote to Holder.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Kinetic1, Anyone who mentions “anterior cingulate cortexes” and “amygdala” needs to read The Republican Brain b y Chris Mooney, which goes through much recent research on brains and political psychology. And it’s not just size, but more which parts of the brain show the most activity when stimulated in certain ways.

        Of course it’s not a “missing gene” or a case of abnormality—that’s just the twist some of the ignorant motivated reasoners have put on it You are correct in saying, “In fact, if these studies suggest a negative societal or behavioral issue with the brains of one particular political group …..” (let me finish it for you), it is those on the extreme right that display that negative behavior

        Nick—read the book and DO look at the links—-it’s looking like it IS true, and that’s one of the reasons we are in such a state of disarray in the country.

        • Frank Kahn

          “The Republican Brain” a politically biased book based on pseudo-science which claims all Conservatives (misrepresented as Republicans) are neanderthals that think with their base lizard brains, and Liberals misrepresented as Democrats) use their more mature reasoning faculties.

          Marginally based on true facts that humans are emotional creatures, however falsely giving some political credence to the thought that liberals are smarter than the rest of us that actually think instead of reacting to pure political hype.

          If you read the book like RBT suggests and you check his postings you will see that he follows the exact same behavioral patter described as typical of conservatives.

      • Vicki

        Nick Czudy says:
        “JeffH. You are absolutely correct. I made a word error and called operation “Wide Receiver” fast receiver.

        You are mostly also correct that the two operations were totally seperate. I just said that the fast and furious was based on former.”

        You most certainly did not say that Fast and furious was BASED ON wide receiver.

        - Nick: “Buster Fast and Furious stated in Feb 2006 and was called “Operation Fast receiver.”
        - Nick: “then in 2009, the Arizona ATF continued the operation and called it “fast and furious” ”
        http://personalliberty.com/2013/01/23/guns-smoke-and-islam/#comment-818978

        Your English meaning is quite clear.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Frank Kahn runs his mouth about A BOOK HE HASN’T EVEN READ!!!!

        I have mentioned The Republican Brain by Chris Mooney a number of times on a number of threads on PLD, and Frank actually said to us one time “I won’t read that book because its TITLE shows that it’s biased”. HE JUDGED IT TO BE BIASED ONLY ON ITS TITLE !!!

        And Frank, who has very little “science” knowledge beyond what he looks up and misinterprets anyway, dares to talk about the “pseudo-science” in A BOOK HE HASN’T EVEN READ!!!!

        Frank’s statement that “Conservatives (misrepresented as Republicans) are neanderthals that think with their base lizard brains, and Liberals misrepresented as Democrats) use their more mature reasoning faculties” is more proof that he is talking about A BOOK HE HASN’T EVEN READ!!!! The book says no such thing.. Give us some page references to that, Frank—-the book is sitting on my desk and I’ll be glad to talk to you about what you HAVEN’T READ and don’t understand.

        This statement makes no sense, Frank, as you would know if you had read the book and could understand what it says. “Marginally based on true facts that humans are emotional creatures, however falsely giving some political credence to the thought that liberals are smarter than the rest of us that actually think instead of reacting to pure political hype”. Again, how about some page references and an exact quote? I can deal with whatever is actually in the book, but not your made up horsepucky.

        This doesn’t make much sense either, Frank, coming from a guy WHO HASN’T EVEN READ THE BOOK. “If you read the book like RBT suggests and you check his postings you will see that he follows the exact same behavioral patter described as typical of conservatives” The truth is that YOUR “patter” is more typical of “neanderthal” conservatives. The positive conservatives pointed out in the book DO use their brains and make positive contributions, but you are more typical of the mindless ideologues that populate PLD.

        Actually, Frank is just plain dishonest—-what he has said here is either a paraphrase of some review of the book by some wing-nut (with no link) OR some fantasy he has cooked up to mislead you even though he knows it’s untrue. He does that to you all because I beat his brains in every time he is foolish enough to “mess with the bull of truth” and he can’t take it, ergo he will do and say anything in his feeble attempts to attack me.

        PS Frank the Myth Buster still hasn’t talked to us about climate change and global warming—-what’s up, Frank? We’re waiting.

      • http://www.facebook.com/sirwilliambolton William Wiley Bolton

        The Democrat Party is run by criminals. Just look at Rep. Alcee Hastings of Florida. An open criminal that was saved from prison by the party and went from criminal activities as a judge to impeachment for selling criminal decisions on the bench to congress. Now he has the gall to say to the American people that there are no rules and they are making them up as they go along. Worse than Al Capone. Obama is an enemy of the Republic and he was born in an African protectorate of Britain before it became Kenya. The records are in Lew, Surrey, England in the British Archives. He is a criminal fraud also.

      • nickkin

        It’s blind folk like you Nick, that can’t recognize the enemy even if you shared a residence with them. You can rant and rave with all your stats and web sites but all one has to see & hear is who obozo is, who he hangs with and his circle of comrades. You liberals are so blindsided that half your brain is infested with brain-wash propaganda. From the beginning’ the name “barrack huessin obama” lends a clue what his agenda is. If you think you can tell the difference between a good/bad muslum, buy all the penny stock for irans nuclear program you can, and you will have amassed a fortune in brain -mush.

        • Nick Czudy

          Nnickkin.

          I am embarrassed that you have such a great name.
          But you are one sick puppy. All I can say is “Psychiatrist.
          When I watch TV and see right wing thinking people, I generally see, hate, evil, devious, ruthless and now also nuts. I would be really scared if you guys ever regain power again.
          I wish I knew what it is that makes you hate so much. I sure hope that you do not have a gun. It is people like you that should be on a watch list.

          Just because Obama’s middle name is Hussein, that is enough for you to make an opinion.
          I am sorry, but all that I see is honest and caring people in charge now that are doing their best to get us out of all of problems that we have gotten in to over the last 10 years.

          We need to have fewer wars, fewer guns, less hate and rebuild a decaying America.

          You are not the solution. You are the problem.

          Chill out.

          Nick Cz.

          • Jeff

            I agree.

          • Bob666

            Nickcz,

            What you see here are people who are extra pissed because “their kind of guy” is not in the Whitehouse. Like me, you were a child of the cold war and many people of that era had to have an enemy to hate and blame. Out go communist (except to many who dwell on this blog) and in comes al Qaeda or anyone who remotely looks like a Muslim.

            Some people need someone else to hate -it’s ingrained in their DNA.

      • http://clear.net Xmil-man

        Where are you coming from, if you think that Obama is not a muslim then you need to have some serious shrink time. What better way to defeat a great nation than from with-in and Obama will soon show his real truth. I hope that when the [expletive deleted] hits the fan you are first in line, then maybe you’ll see the real Obama that is if you and your kind are still alive. But I don’t bet on that fact!

        • NickCzudy

          Hey Xmil-man. You have just identified yourself as being one of those 80%.
          I cannot believe that there are so many of you out there that believe that Obama is a Muslim and is trying to subvert the USA from within. First of all you must be a religious minded person and therefore you must have deep religious views of your own. OK. That is your crutch to carry. Therefore you must be as fanatic as some of the fundamental religious freaks that think that the world revolves on some mumbo jumbo that has been indoctrinated into your mind.
          If you know that Obama and most Americans that have had an education, Religion does not make the world go around and these people do not live and breath for this religious fanaticism.
          Obama is not religious at all. He would also not regulate his life and his job as a president to deal with religious fanaticism. He has many other issues to deal with, like the economy, Iran, gun laws, immigration and the complex running of government. So this rational man, that has not shown any bible thumping religious fanaticism is being painted by yourself and many of your contemporaries as being a fanatic Muslim and all of the work to get elected is to subvert the USA and make us all into Muslims and Sharia law.

          Give me a break. Where do you guys come from. Obama has been criticized by the religious right as not honoring the day of prayer and not going to church every day like the last puppets that were in office to cater to the religious right. Everything that he has done has been to keep religion of all kinds out of the white house and government and into your personal homes and churches. This is where it belongs, and not in government. I applaud this as there is no place for religion in the daily making of decisions that will affect us in our daily lives.

          So you must think that if he is not a Christian bible thumper, that he therefore is a closet Muslim? How about the possibility that he is not a fanatic religious freak of any kind and he is running the country as he should be without influence of any religion.

          Do not mistake, that in international diplomacy, one respects their views and cultures, as he would with you with your beliefs. This does not make him a religious fanatic. That is what happens when you get educated and can use your own mind. This is called diplomacy. Every politician always ends every speech with the usual “God bless the US of A.” I for one would like to see this stop, as it is ingenuous. I understand that this is to cater and placate those of you that are religious freaks. Every politician does it, but you can see that Obama is not a religious fanatic of any kind. That is the only place that anything religious is ever mentioned in his day to day live.

          So I would suggest that you keep your crazy rhetoric to yourself and your like minded buddies, or I will just have to place you in the same looney bin with the rest of the nuts. Oh yes, can I have your name and address so that I can add your name to the upcoming database of nuts that should not be allowed to own weapons?

          I apologize. I could not help it. I just had to return some of your hate and slander back to you as I hear that king of talk so often on this site. Wayne Root and Bob Livingston, are you guys catering to these loons so that you can make a living? Or do I also place you too into that same looney bin?
          Stay cool and chill out. There is no devious inside scheme in the White house to turn you into a Muslim.
          I basically have a theory that when the day comes that all of us in this world treat everyone else with respect and moral values without the threat of hell damnation or eternity in paradise with 70 virgins, then the world will be a better place and we will have a better world.
          Nick Cz

          • Bob666

            Yo Nick,
            ever heard the saying-you can lead a horse to water, but………….

    • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

      Everything this person in the White House says is a lie, he only lies when his lips are moving and he can’t stop talking about himself for a second. He is hateful of anything moral, that is the reason he chooses to be a homosexual. Hates God and the Bible and misquotes each every chance he gets. He can quote the Quran like the islamist he is. Covers up the cross that saves at every speech and won’t mention God unless he is talking about his little god allah. A islamist plant paid for by islamist and for islamist, therefore his lie’s about muslims being involved in the founding of the nation were nothing but pure lie’s. He hates America, took the flag of the United States of America off Airforce One to fly his own demonic flag. Needs to be impeached and sent back to Kenya where he was born.

      • Nick Czudy

        Benjamin.
        Wow. You are a really angry man.
        You hit all of the rhetoric points that have been coming from the loony right. Since I do not know you, please tell me what is your politics. As I am not qualified to place you. I will let you do that yourself. Who else wants to adopt Benjamin as one of their proud fellow patriots?
        I am just wondering how you are able to get along in the real world? Best of luck.

      • mark

        Right, Ben, but he won and he will be our president for the next four years while you will remain where you are irrelevant, spiteful, hateful, racist, and most of all inconsequential. And Thank God for that. Have fun on all the hate sites, it is just where you belong. And be sure to teach you children to hate each and every day, each and every waking hour too so they too can grow up to be malignant and irrelevant just like their Dad. Have a fun day!

      • eddie47d

        Thanks Benjamin for always proving that the right is always nuttier than the left. There is hope that you will destroy yourself from within and its working!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Benjamin: Everything this person in the White House says is a lie, he only lies when his lips are moving and he can’t stop talking about himself for a second. He is hateful of anything moral, that is the reason he chooses to be a homosexual.

        Benjamin, he is no different from any of the previously, selected-puppets. Perhaps you should have stated it so, thus preventing some from getting their panties in a bunch. They are all, criminals; puppets of wall-street, and whores of the military-industrial-complex. The new “puppet” is no better or worse than his predecessors. They are all traitors!

    • mark

      Alondra, don’t be so hard on Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity with your Cicero quote directed toward them. I think they are both sincere, hugely mistaken, but sincere and in their own minds I am sure they mistake their racism for patriotism. Fortunately 51% of the American people do not think so and they all spoke on November 6

      • Frank Kahn

        AH, Mark the racist is at it again. You are a white hating person, admit it. Nobody that is intelligent hates Obama because he is black, it is because he is worthless as a leader and has not clue one about true economic functions.

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Nothing like reading the comments of two cool aid drinks who get angry but, they are allowed, others aren’t and since neither one of the idiots can point out anything other then their lie’s I expect it from left wing God hating nut jobs.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Well, for once i agree with mark in regards to Rush and Shaun…whoopee! Btw, anyone allowed that much air time and access to such considerable “target-audience” are to be viewed with suspicion. The “controllers” allow Rush and Shaun air time because they provide a useful-service. That being; they maintain the “left/right paradigm. You know…us against them. Duh! Also, i would add Bill Maher to the list, amongst others, too numerous to mention…yawn.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Mark. You are soooo stubbornly donkey-ish.
        You, LIBTARDS, are always playing DIRTY in your theater of the ABSURD. You are spewing your talking points and scripted mantras which were prescribed by the Luciferian Saul Alinsky without any prove. Can anyone take it seriously?

        Cicero quote is directed toward the stupid/ignorant/arrogant Irish Kenyan White-Negro muslim bastard and his pervert minions. And again you are with the race card. How repetitively boring and uninspiring it is.

        Mark, how do you think WHY congress rid of the word “lunatic” from the congressional language?

        Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin are my mentors. I am religiously listening them everyday day. They are preachers of the TRUTH. Please prove your bombastic libel.

        About “Fortunately 51% of the American people do not think so and they all spoke on November 6”

        Maaaaaark, you know that that is one of the endless DEMONcratic retardates’ LIE.
        On January 6 I already replied to your FALSEHOOD that your Irish White-Niger muslim Kenyan did NOT win elections. He stole elections by the massive fraud. Who participated in the FRAUD? UNIONs, ACORN, Planned Parenthood, Army of Parasites and Freeloaders, Illegals.

        There is multitude of evidences all over the country, but especially in the Swing States.
        Please explain how the Usurper got 247,713 votes from only 175,554 registered voters in the St. Lucie County, FL.

        He even didn’t win in his home-state IL. After early voting his campaign saw that he is losing, so they organized the massive FRAUD.

        More than 5000 non-citizens voted in Colorado.

        In PA 25 people were convicted for falsely registering “voters” at the addresses in Philadelphia when they did not live there. One couple lived in NJ and voted in both in NJ and in Philly.

        Why our troops were denied their rights to vote?
        Oh, sorry, I forgot that under the O’Homobama ruling they only have their RIGHTS to DIE.

        The list of the evidences goes on and on.

        Orly Taitz filed suit in the CA Dist. Court. She has PROOF that about 1.5 million votes were “fraudulent” JUST in CA.

        Mark, next time get your facts or just shut up. STOP LYING.

        “Magna est veritas et praevalet” – “The truth is great and shall prevail”

        P.S. Mark, USURPER STOLE ELECTIONS. That is UNDENIABLE FACT.

      • Bob666

        Alondra,
        “Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin are my mentors. I am religiously listening them everyday day. They are preachers of the TRUTH. Please prove your bombastic libel.

        About “Fortunately 51% of the American people do not think so and they all spoke on November 6”

        Maaaaaark, you know that that is one of the endless DEMONcratic retardates’ LIE.
        On January 6 I already replied to your FALSEHOOD that your Irish White-Niger muslim Kenyan did NOT win elections. He stole elections by the massive fraud. Who participated in the FRAUD? UNIONs, ACORN, Planned Parenthood, Army of Parasites and Freeloaders, Illegals”.

        Alondra,
        I really don’t need to come up with a response, your comments effectively convey your angry and nasty temperament. I would consult a doctor as there are medications that can help you and the good news is, Obama care will pay for them.

    • http://yahoo.com hangman

      Obama is like cance, his followers like incompetent doctors that cannot see what is so obvious. And like a cancer. Obama’s acts of treason should be addressed, or the patient (America) will die.

    • Cliffystones

      Cicero, before the birth of Christ. So much for the theory that humans have “evolved”.

    • Beepster

      Reuters “news service”, a German company knows the US Constitution??? I doubt it, and they sound like ol’ Piers Morgan.

    • http://www.facebook.com/michael.guy.140 Michael Guy

      Every Roman Dictator since Julius Caesar kept up the pretext of a Roman republic by affixing the letters SPQR to their tyrannical decrees; For the Senate and the People of Rome. The Roman tribunes and Senators were as ineffectual and vestigial after Cicero as our legislators seem to be. WE have a Socialist Sun King who can recite Louis XIV with equal vehemence, “Etate c’est moi” “I am the state”. This Administration armed Mexican drug lords in Fast and Furious. The drug lords make their millions because this administration gives welfare, SSI and EBT to addicts. This administration extorts tax money from you and then gives it to parasites in the HHS welfare society so that these Obama voters will enhance the profits of violent drug gangs. So not only is tax money or loaned money from China filtered through to the vicious drug cartels, but Eric Holder even armed these gangs with the same weapons he wants to confiscate from conservative, capitalist, Constitution-loving, law-abiding American citizens. Add to this hypocrisy, the financial aid and arms sent to the Sunni Jihadist in the Muslim Brotherhood and you can see this Democratic Administration wants to arm Saudi-controlled, Arab Spring” Sunni terrorist who will be killing Shia, Christians , Jews and socialists throughout the world, including America. But this Administration and its Democrats want to abrogate and nullify our social contract, i.e. the Constitution with its Bill of Rights and then confiscate property to which citizens are entitled, especially the arms and ammunition owned by Christian, conservative, capitalist, Constitution-loving, Caucasians. Is this to make us subject serfs in a global Holy Roman Empire, ruled by elite liberal lords, Bolshevik bureaucrats and progressive plutocrats in the UN?

    • Toy

      Cicero should know.
      I’m old enough to find the B.C.E convention, damned irritating!

  • Michael Guy

    The Five major beneficiaries of this last election are, China, Saudi Arabia, the UN, Manhattan and the Washington bureaucracies.

    China will continue to maintain its massive trade imbalance and loan back their free trade profits to Washington at terms,conditions and with pleges of collateral ( like Taiwan) favorable to the multi-millionaires who run the Chinese Communist Party. The EPA will continue to shut down competitive American factories and displace both union and non-union workers for the benefit of China
    Ever since 9-11 when 19 Saudis attacked the World Trade Center, our nation has aided Saudi Arabia and their Sunni jihadist in destroying every Shia rival to Riyadh. We will continue to arm and give Billions in aid to Sunni terrorist like those in the Muslim Brotherhood despite the fact that it is Saudi financed and supported terrorist who attack the US from Libya ( Benghazi) Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Egypt and Pakistan.
    Our President and Senate will continue to use treaties as a means of treason, turning over sovereignty to non-elected foreign plutocrats and bureaucrats. (Perhaps some of the ones who own our national debt?) A new Pacific Free Trade Treaty is in the works, insuring American businesses relocate to avoid over taxation and over regulation. Since Treaties supercede our Constitutional Rights, the socialist will use treaties as a means of implementing their one-world dictatorship , In this, they will imitate Benedict Arnold who also betrayed this country for money and a patent of nobility in a global government ruled by elite lords.
    Our” too big to fail” TARP beneficiaries and the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank will greatly benefit with this new administration. They too control the economy , money supply and interest rate with the impunity of tyrants and dictators. These Manhattan plutocrats, like Goldman Sachs and its subsidiary the US Treasury, will sell Cap and Trade government issued carbon ration cards for further lucrative profits.This is what the president means by combating the effects of a gas that comprises 0.0036 of the atmoshere and ostensibly causes global warming.
    Our Washington Bureaucrats will grow in power as they further restrict personal freedom and opportunities for prosperity. Like the President with his executive orders, governmant agencies will continue their dictates, rules regulations and restrictions with as much concern for the common citizen as Marie Antoinette or the concern that the EPA had for the UMW. Why not? Bureaucrats, like federal politicians, make six legal figures, no matter what.
    Michael Guy

    • Warrior

      Michael, you’re all over this charade! Add some “open borders” and the recipe is complete.

    • http://yahoo Wayne Casey

      Thank you sir, so very well stated, would like to hear some truth like that on our Main Stream Media, who now are just part of the treason to our nation.

    • Steve E

      Michael, couldn’t say it better myself.

    • Right Brain Thinker

      Yes, Michael—-some very tasty kool-aid you’re serving up. Look at all the folks who are drinking it down and getting bloated bellies (and shrunken brains).

      • Steve E

        You are not one to be talking about kool-aid drinking.

      • JUKEBOX

        These people might be drinking some of Kool Aid like Jim Jones prepared for his subjects.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Talk about shrunken brains. You are down to half a brain, the right half, evidently.

      • eddie47d

        Then Capitalist at Birth maybe he can borrow your other half and it might equal out!

      • Frank Kahn

        Still waiting for your first installment of actual intelligent thought.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Ah, Chesty, you were right, it is so much easier to find them all when they have you “surrounded”. It’s hardly worth firing a shot at them, because they’re trying very hard to look as if they are “dangerous”, but they are also working hard at staying out of range.

        Cats and tails and butterfly nets from Jeffy and JAY, mindlessness and a pleas to be left alone from Kate, and another truly stupid comment from Jeffy, who says “I found it rather amusing that Half Wit would even attempt to deflect by using the FreedomWork/Armey/Tea Party – Alinsky scenario.”

        Amusing? AMUSING?? Deflect? Lord love a dozen ducks, Jeffy? You have been caught with your pants down, challenged to explain your Mengel-Alinsky gaffe, and you think it’s amusing? And who’s “deflecting” with “cats and tails” stories?

        Why don’t all of you in the dungeon put your heads together and do either of two things? One, go away and come back to play another day, on another thread. Or two, continue to try play the same mindless game you did on the Clinton $63 billion deficit thing yesterday and get your brains beaten in I have many freshly sharpened horn tips for you, if you choose the latter.

        Not to get into music and movies, but sometimes a man needs to know whether to hold ‘em or fold ‘em and or know his limitations.

        TA DA and Quack Quack, as certain fools are fond of saying here.

    • Dale A. Greene Sr

      Its time to impeach president Obama I still believe he wasn’t born here and believe that he covererd up Benghazi incident and isn’t following our laws to the constation or communicating with our senate or congress ! He’s going to do what he wants

      • Irish Love

        I totally agree Dale…….. Right On!!

      • eddie47d

        If you want to impeach Obama over Benghazi the Reagan would have surely received the firing squad for far worse in Lebanon.

      • phideaux

        Since you obviously missed the memo eddie I will now formaly inform you that Reagan has been out of office for many years and is dead.

      • http://www.facebook.com/sirwilliambolton William Wiley Bolton

        Right you are! His birth records are not in Kenya, because it was a British protectorate at that time and had not become Kenya! The records are in Kew, Surrey, England in the British Archives. He was a British subject until he became Indonesian by adoption. He is an open enemy, not a traitor as a traitor must turn on his own country. The USA is not Obama’s country.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

      Michael, had you not included Obama as being part of the “wolf-gang”, you would have received a big, wet and passionate kiss on your behind from RBT. You see, RBT is convinced that Obama is “dudley-do-right” and will put the “bad-guys” in their places and make everything better, somehow. Well, he has mentioned more then once that he is surrounded by a group he refers to as “they”, and like his “hero”, Chesty Puller, he’s going make short work of “they”! Lord love a kool-aid drinking, duck!

  • Harold Olsen

    I saw a news clip earlier this week about the gun rally in Olympia, Washington. This white liberal said that because the rally was held the weekend of MLK Day it was racist and showing disrespect for Martin Luther King, Jr. Well, a black guy at the rally said there was nothing disrespectful about it and it certainly wasn’t racist as Dr. King was all about freedom and Obama was trying to take away our freedoms.

    • Right Brain Thinker

      So what, Harold. Everyone knows that a few far-left liberals are delusional (very few), and they say things that are almost as dumb as what comes from the looney-tune right. At least you’ve given us some “equal opportunity mindlessness” when you talk about some delusional black guy that has sucked up too much looney-tune kool-aid. (Are you sure the “black guy” wasn’t a white guy wearing blackface?).

      And let’s talk about really crazy. Larry Ward, the instigator of Gun Appreciation Day, tried to use Martin Luther King Jr., (who was assassinated by a GUN), as a symbol for his gun rally. LOL That was based on the fact that King once applied for a hidden carry permit, but was turned down. What Ward never mentioned is that King, best remembered for his belief in non-violent protest, later said he was glad he was denied and would never carry a gun again.

      And that brings to mind a new “slogan” for VICKI to bore us to death with.

      MARTIN LUTHER KING WANTED TO CARRY A GUN BUT THE WHITE FOLKS WOULDN’T LET HIM—-DON’T PUNISH PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY’RE BLACK

      STOP IT STOP IT NOW

      • Andy

        So, delusional Right Brain, are you just naturally stupid or is it just a well polished act ?

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Thank you, Andy, for stepping up and speaking out as a representative of the ignorant and mindless faction of the delusional. You know, those folks who are delusional but not smart enough to actually say anything? So they resort to name calling instead of reasoned discussion?.

        Come back when you have something to say, Andy, and leave room for the more intelligent among the deluded to nip at my heels

        (Or is “more intelligent among the deluded” a bit too oxymoronic?) .

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Andy’s comment that I replied to here appears to have been “moderated” out of existence. Don’t know why—-it wasn’t that bad and I wasn’t upset by it.. (?)

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Andy’s comment is back! I’m sure he will be thankful for that. He seemed so eager to display his mindlessness to all.

      • Kate8

        RBT – What you are failing to mention is that during the days of MLK, DEMOCRATS were in control of the country. If MLK was denied a gun permit, it was because DEMOCRATS denied him, a black man who was arrested for protesting. (It was democrats who determined who could or couldn’t have a gun, and MLK had an arrest record.)

        MLK Sr. was a Republican, as was Jr. Democrats were angrily opposed to the civil rights movement, including JFK. When MLK Jr. was locked up, Sr. made a deal to deliver the black vote to JFK if he’d set Jr. free. Dems saw the obvious advantage in controlling the black vote, and the devil’s deal was struck.

        Your remark about the black guy at the gun convention is offensive, and shows your true racial bias that a black man can’t think for himself enough to be a conservative or a gun owner. You dems think you own black people… and any who oppose you are maligned. That is the worst form of slavery, and shows your true contempt for people of color.

        You Leftist continually distort history and facts to suit your twisted agenda to destroy all that was ever good about America. That is the Leftist (communist) way. Nothing good ever comes from lies and corruption, so if you think that such deceitful methods can ever create a better society, you are sadly delusional. The only “ends” communists have in mind is that the elite have everything, and the rest (who survive) live in servitude to the eltie.

        • Jeff

          So, are you saying that the Southern Democrats, all of whom became Republicans once LBJ pushed through the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts in 64 and 65, were really communists? Heavy, man!

      • Vicki

        Right Brain Thinker does and writes:
        “And that brings to mind a new “slogan” for VICKI to bore us to death with.

        MARTIN LUTHER KING WANTED TO CARRY A GUN BUT THE WHITE FOLKS WOULDN’T LET HIM—-DON’T PUNISH PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY’RE BLACK

        STOP IT STOP IT NOW”

        That’s a good point. Thank you for helping spread the word that

        ~300 MILLION AMERICANS including multiple ethnic background DIDN’T SHOOT ANYONE.

        STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT for the acts of a few.

        STOP IT
        STOP IT NOW

        btw here is the racist history of gun control
        http://www.firearmsandliberty.com/cramer.racism.html

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Right Brain Stinker; You, eddie teddy 47 ways to be a commie, Jeromy oh my have to back my marxist buddies, trashy flashy dashy a friend of Hitler and now you, you trolls are stupid, brainless and would have voted for Hitler if alive today and he is, lives in the White House, how much does the left pay you to come on here with your lie’s? What ever it is, it is two much, your comments aren’t worth a penny to those who love freedom and hate the back door nazi’s like yourself:

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Doesn’t take much to get RBT crazy. What a huge ego he must have!

      • JeffH

        Jay, ya think? :)

      • eddie47d

        We don’t have to worry about Liberal insanity because you have a whole boatload of Conservative insanity right here and that boatload is sinking! Benjamin Fox is now playing general and leading all you lemmings over the cliff. Exit straight ahead!!

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Did JAY and Jeffy just say something? Anything worth commenting on? No? TA DA

      • Vicki

        Right Brain Thinker says:
        “Did JAY and Jeffy just say something? Anything worth commenting on? No? TA DA”

        Obviously they did cause you took the time to comment.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Vicki says something not worth commenting on also. TA DA

    • mark

      Harold, the black guy was wrong.

      • Frank Kahn

        Only in your opinion

    • Irish Love

      ABSOLUTELY!! MLK was about LIBERTY & FREEDOM for ALL races…. Everytime anyone questions; dislikes; opposes Barrack Hussein Obama they are called a RACIST! Give it a REST Lefty-LIBERALS this is about AMERICA – a creed NOT a race ~ an HONOR!!

      Doesn’t anyone remember WHY the Statue of Liberty was erected and what it stood for??? How millions of foreigners under “tyrannical” enslavement fled to AMERICA for Liberty & Freedom….. The Eagle cries now as we are being systematically led in to socialistic which begats communistic regime.

      Obama’s very intent is do exactly what occurs on this blog…… Divide & Conquer from within… GOD Bless AMERICA!!

  • robert

    I’ve never voted for Obama, and will never consider him as President. Him and his lackies are every thing. That America has been against. I believe those Socialists are trying to devide the country . If it persists , I fear with the tensions in America we are facing civil war. Of course that’s probably just what he wants. Then he can claim national emergency and declare martial law then bring in UN troops to help squash the true Americans and Christians.

    • Jeff

      So only Christians can be true Americans? Is that not counter to all our founding documents and ideals? Look who I’m asking?

      • Kate8

        Jeff – You don’t have to be Christian, but you do have to pledge to uphold our Constitution and founding documents. Anyone who violates this oath, or places any other ideology above that of freedom spelled out in said documents, was never welcomed into our country until DEMOCRATS opened the floodgates for them, with the express purpose of diluting our strength in unity.

        Our founders understood that we cannot flood the country with subversives and survive. They made provisions for what we were to do to the treacherous. Such politicians are to be REMOVED, by any means.

        Does that clarify the issue for you?

        The problem here is COMMON SENSE, a thing of which liberals are completely devoid.

      • eddie47d

        Conspiracy theories are not common sense so Kate 8 really blew her cover in outing herself. Jeff H would be proud!

      • Kate8

        eddie – You are such a simpleton.

      • eddie47d

        Someone has to counterreact your continual fear mongering Kate 8.

    • carrobin

      Articles like this ridiculous rant are aimed at the fearful to make them more paranoid than they already are.

    • Mary

      The terrorist we are facing is the right wing nuts who take a much needed act by our elected President, to make our country a little safer, and turn it into a free for all act of rebellion and call to retaliate with acts of violence. The majority of Americans want assault weapons banned. The President does not go far enough to get them out of the hands of our citizens. Those of you who have them can register them if they are not already and still keep them and use them to slaughter other Americans in large numbers when you go off your rockers. From the way many of you are talking, that will be any day now. Because you LIE and say your 2nd amendment right will be taken away from, you will most likely exaggerate everything else as you generally do. The 2nd amendment gave us the right to bare firearms. It did not specify a right to own supper dupper killer rifles, which were not even ivented when the Constitution was written. YOU HAVE NOT lost that right , YOU STILL can have guns so your rights are still in tact. Assault weapons are only good for killing with intent to slaughter as many humans at one time as possible. Other guns can be used for target practice which is the only other use for these types of guns. YOU do NOT need these guns, YOU WANT them because it makes some of you feel more powerful. Stop telling lies about losing your 2nd amendment right. YOU know you are being dishonest and you think it is perfectly okay because the end justifies the means. WRONG.

      • Vicki

        Mary says:
        “The terrorist we are facing is the right wing nuts who take a much needed act by our elected President, to make our country a little safer, and turn it into a free for all act of rebellion and call to retaliate with acts of violence.”

        Argument to demonize.

        - Mary: “The majority of Americans want assault weapons banned.”

        Tyranny of the Majority.

        - Mary: “The President does not go far enough to get them out of the hands of our citizens.”

        Desire for a tyrant to force her will (thru said tyrant) on the ~300 MILLION INNOCENT citizens.

        - Mary: “Those of you who have them can register them if they are not already”

        Desire to force the innocent to get permission to exercise a right thus turning a right into a privilege.

        - Mary: “and still keep them and use them to slaughter other Americans in large numbers when you go off your rockers. From the way many of you are talking, that will be any day now.”

        Argument to demonize.

        - Mary: “Because you LIE and say your 2nd amendment right will be taken away from, you will most likely exaggerate everything else as you generally do.”

        Argument to ridicule.

        - Mary: “The 2nd amendment gave us the right to bare firearms. It did not specify a right to own supper dupper killer rifles…”

        It did not specify any because it means ALL.

        - Mary: “,… which were not even ivented when the Constitution was written.”

        The founders were a LOT smarter than current anti-gunners give them credit for. They knew all about inventions and that many things had not yet been invented. That is one of the reasons there is NO specific limitation on which arms are part of the set.

        - Mary: “YOU HAVE NOT lost that right”

        Of course not. The right came from GOD not a piece of parchment.

        - Mary: “YOU STILL can have guns so your rights are still in tact.”

        Are you familiar with the legal term “chilling effect”?
        http://law.yourdictionary.com/chilling-effect

        Now study “…..shall not be infringed…..”
        Note that the 2nd Amendment is not a permission slip. It is an ORDER to government to PROTECT the right of the people to KEEP and BEAR arms. That order is being ignored.

        • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Vicki,

          Good rebuttal. Perhaps Mary will benefit from what I have written for tomorrow. Its title: What does the 2nd Amendment mean?

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • Vicki

        Mary writes:
        “Assault weapons are only good for killing with intent to slaughter as many humans at one time as possible.”

        Failure to identify “assault weapon”. Those listed in typical ban proposals are not as efficient a set of tools as the firearms in common use by the military.

        - Mary: “Other guns can be used for target practice which is the only other use for these types of guns. YOU do NOT need these guns,”

        Rights are not about needs. Needs are for slaves.
        “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”
        Slaves do not need much and certainly (according to their masters) do not need tools that could be used to free themselves.

        - Mary: “YOU WANT them because it makes some of you feel more powerful. Stop telling lies about losing your 2nd amendment right.”

        Care to follow your own sage advice?

        - Mary: “YOU know you are being dishonest and you think it is perfectly okay because the end justifies the means. WRONG.”

        false presumption that we are being dishonest.

      • Vicki

        Bob Livingston says:
        “Good rebuttal. Perhaps Mary will benefit from what I have written for tomorrow. Its title: What does the 2nd Amendment mean?”

        Thanks. I will look forward to reading your article as well.

      • eddie47d

        Fair and balanced interpretation I highly doubt it!

      • Frank Kahn

        Yummy Yummy Yummy, Mary makes a leftist mantra tirade worthy of response.

        “The terrorist we are facing is the right wing nuts who take a much needed act by our elected President, to make our country a little safer, and turn it into a free for all act of rebellion and call to retaliate with acts of violence.”

        Lets break this one down into its many bad parts. Terrorist / Terrorist attack – have been redefined to mean a person who performs an act of violence against a person or group of people with special privileges. If you attack a minority physically, it is now an act of terror. If you threaten to defend your life, liberty and rights, it is a terrorist threat. Not true, in either case, an attack on a minority is the same as an attack on anyone else, it is assault and battery. Declaring the right to defend yourself is not a terrorist attack, it is a warning of retaliation for an illegal act. Saying that the act is MUCH NEEDED is a statement of opinion not fact. Calling pro-gun people RIGHT WING NUTS is both an ad hominem attack and wrong, many in the left are pro-gun. Saying that I will shoot you if you try to steal my car is not a threat of violence, it is a warning of impending doom for doing wrong.

        “The majority of Americans want assault weapons banned.”

        proof by bald assertion – the majority of Americans might want stricter control of guns but not banning them. Also, the term ASSAULT WEAPON is incorrect, they are talking about normal everyday semi-automatic weapons.

        “The President does not go far enough to get them out of the hands of our citizens.”

        Again, only your opinion. Also, the president has no authority to take any guns away from law abiding citizens.

        “Those of you who have them can register them if they are not already and still keep them and use them to slaughter other Americans in large numbers when you go off your rockers.”

        I am beginning to think that maybe you need some mental counseling with this statement. No, there is no reasonable explanation for registering guns, what would it accomplish? When someone kills with them we already know what gun was used. Keeping them is our right anyway so that is not an issue. I wonder why you are giving people the okay to go ahead and slaughter people with their guns. I guess I will have to say it is okay for you to keep your car and use it to mow down hundreds of innocent pedestrians when you go off your rocker.

        ” From the way many of you are talking, that will be any day now. Because you LIE and say your 2nd amendment right will be taken away from, you will most likely exaggerate everything else as you generally do.”

        Major ad hominem attack here. There are many levels of taking away our rights that were affirmed in the second amendment. Infringement means to limit or undermine (break) something. If you make owning a gun conditional to registration or some other type of control it is an infringement on the second amendment, you dont have to take the guns away.

        ” The 2nd amendment gave us the right to bare firearms. It did not specify a right to own supper dupper killer rifles, which were not even ivented when the Constitution was written.”

        The second amendment gave us the right to bear ARMS, not FIREARMS. Yes, it did not specify what ARMS were included. It did not say SOME ARMS or SMALL ARMS or ARMS FOR HUNTING. It said ARMS, which by definition covers even a 30mm Gatling gun. What ARMS were available at the time is not a limit on what ARMS are covered.

        ” YOU HAVE NOT lost that right , YOU STILL can have guns so your rights are still in tact.”

        If you reference the above definition of the right to bear arms, you are wrong. If you will do some research you will find that many guns are going to be banned (not allowed to have them). That means that the RIGHT has been severely INFRINGED.

        “Assault weapons are only good for killing with intent to slaughter as many humans at one time as possible.”

        I will refer you back to the problem with the term ASSAULT WEAPONS. An assault weapon is a selective fire weapon that is capable of automatic fire, none of the weapons slated for banning qualify for this definition. Using the fear mongering statement TO SLAUGHTER AS MANY HUMANS AT ONE TIME AS POSSIBLE is disingenuous.

        ” Other guns can be used for target practice which is the only other use for these types of guns.”

        You will note that TARGET PRACTICE is not mentioned in the second amendment. Actually the supposed ASSAULT WEAPONS have legitimate hunting applications also. Which is besides the point, since the right to have them is about preservation of the free state, not hunting.

        ” YOU do NOT need these guns, YOU WANT them because it makes some of you feel more powerful. Stop telling lies about losing your 2nd amendment right. YOU know you are being dishonest and you think it is perfectly okay because the end justifies the means. WRONG.”

        Personally, we dont care that you have the OPINION that we dont need them. Your belief that we want them for some mental power trip is not based on available documented facts. The fact that many laws and EO’s are being written and considered that infringe on the second amendment, means it is not a LIE to say we are losing those rights.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Careful, Frank
        Some of us think some of what Mary says makes sense. Much of what you say here doesn’t Someone like you that is pretty much “all opinion” while pretending to be a thinker should not be making such bold statements as this.

        “Personally, we dont care that you have the OPINION that we dont need them. Your belief that we want them for some mental power trip is not based on available documented facts. The fact that many laws and EO’s are being written and considered that infringe on the second amendment, means it is not a LIE to say we are losing those rights”

        And think again about the “logic fails” you demonstrate in saying “The fact that many laws and EO’s are being written and considered that infringe on the second amendment, means it is not a LIE to say we are losing those rights” I see several—-why didn’t you before you spoke?

        .

      • Vicki

        Right Brain Thinker says:
        “Careful, Frank
        Some of us think some of what Mary says makes sense. Much of what you say here doesn’t Someone like you that is pretty much “all opinion” while pretending to be a thinker should not be making such bold statements as this.”

        Careful RBT some may think that you make sense. Some of us think Mary made some errors and have commented on them. Some think that Frank is saying things that make sense.

        The rest of the convoluted ad hominem attack ignored

      • http://www.facebook.com/sirwilliambolton William Wiley Bolton

        If what you say is true, why has the government ordered millions of hollow point rounds of ammunition that are illegal to use in war? Why all the machine guns and glock pistols for Homeland Security? If they really want guns gone, why buy tons of them? I think you are ignorant and need to read the Art of War and The Prince. Then you need to look at the history of all nations run by liberals that instituted gun control. One of the most famous was the national socialist party, the most liberal party of Germany, better known as NAZI. It has always been socialist and communist groups that did wholesale murder of their people that disagreed after removing the right to arms.

    • Mary

      So you did not vote for the President. Obviously the majority of Americans did and he is the Presdent so either accept it or move out of the country. YOU do not have another choice. Those of us who did not like Bush had to do the same but most of us did not act like idiots. We accepted the will of the majority and made sure we voted in the next election. If you want to be miserable and listen to the fear mongrels, who will stretch to distort anything to discredit the President, then that is what you will get the next four years,. Or you could actually join the real world and listen to the man himself speak. He does not need some right wing pundit to interpret what they think he means. He speaks English very well. Listen!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Mary, O must be speaking a particular type of English that seems to be exclusive to your peculiar Leftist mindset because everyone else hears lies.
        Why are you not secure with O, you helped “elect” him to a second term? Or is it finally dawning on your puny brain that O is not what you were told he is?

      • Vicki

        Mary writes:
        ” We accepted the will of the majority and made sure we voted in the next election.”

        A yes. Democracy. 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Tyranny of the majority. Where 50%+1 can do as they wish with the other 50%-1. Or my favorite:
        “Would you tell me please, Mr. Howard, why should I trade one tyrant three thousand miles away for three thousand tyrants one mile away? An elected legislature can trample a man’s rights as easily as a king can. ” – The Patriot (2000)

        WE prefer a Republic and rule of law.
        This video does a pretty good job of explaining the 2 and the difference.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4r0VUybeXY

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Mary the elections were a joke, in some places there were more votes then people living there, the dead voted, the illegal voted and most more then once, that is the reason the left doesn’t want photo ID’s, they can’t steal elections that way. Mary get your head out of where the sun don’t shine, your so called brain isn’t getting any vitamin D girl.

      • mark

        You have to realize, Mary, that these haters, and racists, and fascists have nothnig else in their souls. This is their prime reason for living – to hate and despise everyone who disagrees with them politically. Fortunately they have zero staning in our society except as on-line bullies and cranks. The world moves on passing them all by why they denigrate people like our president who are making history while they make mudpies in the dirt.

      • Guest

        Wrong Mary. The majority of Americans did not vote for Obama. The majority of those who voted did. There’s a big difference. Many simply stayed home because they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for the alternative.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Mark speaks truth to us, Mary. Ignore the others—the mindless and the haters.
        The country needs you.—keep it coming.

      • http://www.facebook.com/sirwilliambolton William Wiley Bolton

        You missed the corruption in electoral offices around the nation. The truth can be hidden for a while and people will believe a lie for a while, but when the truth surfaces it will be criminal corruption of the Democrat Party that perpetrated a fraud upon the USA.

    • JUKEBOX

      People who emphasize Obama’s BLACK ancestry conveniently overlook his WHITE ancestry, who were far left wingers, associating themselves with some of the top Communists in the US during their lives.

    • ranger09

      DO you mean that there are Real americans left in this Country, just look around you, then tell me what you see

    • Irish Love

      YOU NAILED it Robert…… that’s why the FEMA camps are set; why the HUGE purchase of guns & ammo by the government and the executive order signed by OBAMA in March 2012 allowing him to call out the National Guard in times of War & PEACE……. very scary!! TY for the comment

    • http://clear.net Xmil-man

      If you look around some military bases you will find a lot of troops that are from other country’s and they are the ones that will be breaking doors down and killing American citizens, they are to be Obamas new storm troopers. I’m armed and not afraid to shoot any of those people. Obama wants to have America be a Muslim country and will stop at nothing to make that happen. Biden wants it to happen also so the old fart can have as many young women & boys as he wants for sex.

  • KG

    The Second Amendment is OK. You KKK members, Southern Baptists, Fat, White, Old People really need to CALM DOWN! Your “Biggest” hero, Jesus Christ, told Paul to put away his sword. But, you racist, bigots who are working harder for less (because you just can’t bring yourself to join a Labor Union) need to see the REALITY. Believe me, the Radical Liberals DON’T want gun confiscation, because how will they defend themselves against the Right wing, paramilitary organizations? Just look at Germany, before Hitler. The Communists had their guns, as well as the “patriots” war veterans who took their machine guns home from WWI.

    I think that the President has a lot more to do than take away guns. What good is it to have a Gun if you can’t afford to buy food for your family? Or buy a new truck? Or send your kids to college? Oh, that’s right, The LAWD IS COMMING BACK. Screw Social Security. I’ve got “Spritual Security.” So, screw everyone else. I’m not paying my Taxes. I’m keeping all of my money. Let the USA go down the drain. “I’ll fly away oh glory!”

    You bunch of idiots.

    • Right Brain Thinker

      Thanks to KG and deer for bringing some sanity to the thread before it becomes completely insane. John M has certainly started the ball rolling downhill with such horsepucky as “treason against values”. How does one commit “treason” against “values”, except in the mind of a horsepucky thrower like John? Fortunately, someone managed to post something that will perhaps help him understand his mindlessness—-a definition!.

      John says “The Nation senses that something is wrong” and “The latest poll showed 57 percent believe America is “on the wrong track.”

      Yes, John. And two months ago, the American people took steps to deal with what is wrong by rejecting Romney and the Repugnants (another great name for a band) and REELECTING O’BAMA by a resounding margin so that he could spend FOUR MORE YEARS working to fix it!!!!!

      When is it ever going to sink into the thick skulls of the delusional that they LOST and the country is leaving them behind as it moves FORWARD.

      A better question is “When are the delusional going to realize that they are being badly used by those who are really trying to take away their freedoms—the plutocracy and the corporate oligarchy.?”

      • S.C.Murf

        right brain fart you 3 are as satanic as they get, and I will stand as witness against you at the white throne judgement. So rant all you want because your days are numbered, thank God.

        up the hill
        airborne

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Smurfeeeeeeeeeee! Good to see you!

        I have bad news for you. The white throne judgement is going to take place on TOP of that hill you are constantly trying to climb (when you can even find it). So rant all you want, because you won’t be there to stand as a witness to anything—-you will fall down AGAIN before you get very far “up”.. Sorry about that—-go find JeffH and sit in the corner whining with him of that will help—he “falls down” a lot too..

        And I wish you’d stop that mindless “satanic” horsepucky. I for one am a believer in Christian principles, and Jesus is the Son of God and a LIBERAL—-so you are really speaking out against Jesus and God when you attack someone like me or anyone else your feeble mind deems to be “liberal”. Find someone with a brain to explain that to you.

      • Bill

        Right Brain Thinker
        So you are thanking KG for bringing some “sanity” to this thread. Well at least now we know where you are really coming from. Racism, bigotry, eliteism is all present in KG’s post, and that’s what Right Brain Thinker supports

        It stands to reason because Right Brain Thinker is a retired public sector union member that is still feeding on the public trough with his higher than market perks and benefits that are supported by taxpayer dollars. You have always been a non productive pig and you continue to be one.

        Let’s all vote to have public sector retirements funds support themselves through their own investments and not subsidized br the tax payers.

      • Sarah

        Right Brain Thinker. Obama received about 62 million votes. 11% LESS than in 2008. His popularity is going down. Romeny received about 3.3 million less than Obama. 2 million decided not to vote at all for unknown reasons and then factor in voter fraud. Obama is not as popular as people like you think. He won by default. America is going to do what America has to do whatever that might be. A whole year of backorders of AR-15s, hundreds of thousands of people joining the NRA and on top of that try and get ammo. America is on the right track and will no doubt save your ugly a$$.

        • tony newbill

          Sarah , Obama is popular with these globalists who are bring the new world order down .
          They are the Controllers of wealth and resources and that is always the controlling factor of human life and Liberty is now just a political foot ball used to divide and conquer for further consolidation of vital resource control between nations as we fall into the NWO , This sets the stage for dramatic change in economics . Pay attention to what they say about Income Disparity , it will empower these leaders to lead the Politicians to do what we see Going on in more big Government tactics .

          World leaders have gathered in Davos, Switzerland to discuss the global risks facing the world in 2013
          http://reports.weforum.org/global-risks-2013/section-one/executive-summary/

          http://new.livestream.com/wef/am13channel1jan23

          http://new.livestream.com/accounts/1909571/events/1790708

        • tony newbill

          Sarah , Obama is popular with these globalists who are bring the new world order down .
          They are the Controllers of wealth and resources and that is always the controlling factor of human life and Liberty is now just a political foot ball used to divide and conquer for further consolidation of vital resource control between nations as we fall into the NWO , This sets the stage for dramatic change in economics . Pay attention to what they say about Income Disparity , it will empower these leaders to lead the Politicians to do what we see Going on in more big Government tactics .

          World leaders have gathered in Davos, Switzerland to discuss the global risks facing the world in 2013
          http://reports.weforum.org/global-risks-2013/section-one/executive-summary/

          ht tp://new.livestream.com/wef/am13channel1jan23

          ht tp://new.livestream.com/accounts/1909571/events/1790708

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Bill, when are you ever going to go beyond that knee-jerk thing you seem to have and really ask yourself such things as—–”What is being said here? Are there hidden meanings? If something is said in one place, can and should it be applied to every last word? Are some words being used for impact—-rhetoric more that truth?”

        I am a slightly heavy old white guy and it didn’t bother me one bit to be included in KG’s “list”. Are you KKK? And sensitive about that? In spite of KG using some slightly angry words and pushing the buttons of folks like you, his basic message WAS “sane” and I said so—-think about some meaning rather than look at the surface. It’s called “comprehension” as opposed to just “seeing words”

        If you have read my “stuff”, you know I do NOT support Racism, bigotry, or elitism, and have attacked those who do.

        And of course, folks like you with no real arguments to go with your anger have to attack, as in this mindless horsepucky.

        “It stands to reason because Right Brain Thinker is a retired public sector union member that is still feeding on the public trough. Let’s all vote to have public sector retirements funds support themselves through their own investments and not subsidized by the tax payers”.

        I’m sure you are as ignorant about what educators get paid as you are about many other things, so let me educate you on one small thing. All during my working career I paid SS payroll tax, and made contributions to the State and County retirement plans. It all added up to 15+% of my BEFORE-tax income. Yes, the state and county also kicked in all along the way, but my plans DO support themselves by investments and do NOT require subsidy. That is unfortunately NOT true in some states wher ethe legislators have robbed $$$ from the pension funds and are now “short”. VA is a fairly conservative state fiscally and specifically prohibits that.

        You have done nothing but show us all you are “helpless” in the face of truth with this comment—-”You have always been a non productive pig and you continue to be one”. I could say the same about your participation on PLD but won’t—-it’s kind of self-evident.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Sarah talks about my “ugly butt”—-has she been peeping in my bedroom window? If so, she’d know it’s not too ugly for a 72-year-old. I work out and ride a bike so there’s still some “tone” left under the wrinkly old skin.

        Actually, I think Sarah is really Kate8—-Kate typed in another shill name by mistake? Or Sarah is Kate8′s real name? What?

      • http://www.facebook.com/benjamin.fox.98892 Benjamin Fox

        Right Brain Stinker; values change, wow, Change, where have I heard that? Morals don’t change and you and those on the left who have cause millions of deaths of the unborn and none shot with a gun are murders by ink on paper. Get a life or move to Russia where your idea’s fly.

      • Kate8

        RBT – Another Leftist tactic. When you get caught in your deception, accuse your opponent of same.

        Unlike you, I post here because I want to. I’m not paid to do so (which would make YOU the shill.)

        BTW, I can’t be a shill on a conservative blog, blockhead.

        Like a spoiled child, you chant, “I know you are, but what am I?” Hahahahahahahahaha.

        You lose, chump.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Benjamin Fox says that I have somehow caused millions of deaths of the unborn? How can that be when I don’t approve of abortion? And I’m sorry but I don’t get the “values change” allusion—were you talking to me?

        And “Get a life or move to Russia where your idea’s fly”? You need to learn to quit when you’ve said enough, Ben—-why look foolish in an attempt to show wit when you don’t have any?

        Hey, Kate—-glad to see you’re as confused as ever! As when you say,

        “BTW, I can’t be a shill on a conservative blog, blockhead”.

        To which I say, “NO?—-and “You lose, chump”

        (Whack her upside the head too, JAY. I know your heart’s not in it the way it used to be, —you’re tired—-but somebody has to try to keep them in line down there in the dungeon).

        • Frank Kahn

          RBT, HAS NO THOUGHTS, he just likes to make snide comments to hear his head rattle.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Frank Kahn sneaks in and takes a shot when he thinks no one is looking. I saw you , Frankie—-and you’re “messing with the bull” again. Why don’t you stop saying such obviously truly snide and obviously mindless things that need no reply and try to say something “smart”—-I will then help you “feel the horns”. Since I have beaten your brains out so many times, there is nothing left in your head to rattle, but maybe you can fake it.

    • Robert Smith

      “Believe me, the Radical Liberals DON’T want gun confiscation, because how will they defend themselves against the Right wing, paramilitary organizations?”

      Oh darn, the secret is out… We were gonna lead them into a kill box.

      Oh well.

      It all may be for naught anyhow. Remember how their crazy brutal god killed everyone except Noah and his? How are we going to stand up to that?

      Rob

      • nc

        Robert, was that not the same benevolent (?) God(?) that killed all of those innocent children in Egypt because he was Pi$$ed at the ruler? I still haven’t figured out what those kids did wrong!

      • Steve E

        God kills everyone, eventually. At least he’s an equal opportunity killer. Everyone has to pay their fair share.

      • Robert Smith

        “I still haven’t figured out what those kids did wrong!”

        Well. We don’t need gun control. It’s god control we need.

        Rob

      • Vicki

        Interesting discussion about a (supposed) mythical being.

        Atheists who are truly atheist don’t worry about myths.

    • Steph

      Well lets see who is the bigot here. Your slanderous name calling shows a LACK of acceptance which this administration seems to put forth. Legalized marriage for gays (not that I am against this) the right to abort unborn babies (this I am against).
      Now let’s step back a bit and look at this in the BIG picture putting aside all race religion and so forth. Today executive orders (Which are very hard to repeal) to limit your ability to own guns, what will tomorrow hold? Maybe next to be modified will be the 22nd amendment (no person shall hold more than 2 consecutive terms as president) so that in some circumstances a person MAY hold more than 2 consecutive terms, hmm can we say dictator. You may not think this could happen but in congress now is a motion to REPEAL (yes REPEAL) the 22nd amendment. And with the great snow job this administration is pulling over the country I can see it going through.
      But I digress. Your last paragraph starts right that this president has a lot to do but lets add to that, he is aware that in order for his first executive order he signed into law at the beginning of his first term that gives him (the president, not the government) FULL authority over ALL natural resources (electric, gas), monetary institutions (your bank account and retirement), all transportation (this includes roads), the military (of course he already had this power but there is a catch). This in essence would set him up as a dictator because the last part of the order is, “That all this can be done without the consent of congress or any reporting to congress until and unless a period of 90 days has elapsed”. Now you tell me but I think this president is setting himself up for a dictator ship. Guns were just the next step.

      But hey believe what you want to believe until they tell you otherwise.

      • eddie47d

        Not a bad reply Steph but I highly doubt if Obama will extend his presidency into a third term . That is no more than smoke and mirrors from the fright wing of the Republican and Libertarian parties. That is why some on this site are called delusional and who seem to pray for chaos to fulfill their prophecies.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Steph’s comment sure demonstrates “believing” is more important than actual knowledge
        Yep, it’s “believe what you want to believe” (and it should have “whether it’s true or not” added to it).

        I say this because of the comments made about Executive Orders and the 22nd. Amendment. Steph somehow has convinced herself that it is hard to “undo” an executive order and “easy” to throw out the 22nd. Amendment

        WHAT? Executive orders are as easy to undo as they are to issue, and they are constantly being updated and revised. Allowing O’Bama to become a “dictator” by doing away with the 22nd. would require a constitutional amendment, and that is a hard thing to do. We’ve only had 27 amendments, and upwards of 13,000 Executive Orders.

        Steph needs to get educated—-makes one look foolish to spout what one “wants to believe” rather than truth.

      • momo

        Right Brain Thinker says:”Allowing O’Bama to become a “dictator” by doing away with the 22nd. would require a constitutional amendment, and that is a hard thing to do”

        Yes, a hard thing to do, but some still try.

        http://bkl1.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/congressman-wants-to-amend-constitution-to-remove-presidential-term-limits/

      • Robert Smith

        “Today executive orders (Which are very hard to repeal) to limit your ability to own guns, what will tomorrow hold?”

        Yup. If you are crazy, a convicted bad person, etc. I sincerely hope your ability to own guns is restricted.

        Isn’t that common sense?

        Rob

      • eddie47d

        As the article said MOMO that even Eisenhower,Reagan and Clinton questioned the validity of the 22nd Amendment. So to lay it all out as an Obama conspiracy is hogwash. I believe it should stand as is and I don’t want anyone Republican,Democrat or Libertarian being in office for more than 8 years.

        • Jeff

          You can question the wisdom of the 22nd Amendment, but I don’t think you can question its validity unless there were defects in the manner in which it was passed.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Thanks to momo for bringing that up. I was going to do it myself, but I try to be sensitive to the whiners like JeffH that say I “bully” folks by piling too much truth on top of their lies and delusions. But since momo mentioned it without adequate explanation, I will now address it.

        Right Brain Thinker says:”Allowing O’Bama to become a “dictator” by doing away with the 22nd. would require a constitutional amendment, and that is a hard thing to do”

        momo says, “Yes, a hard thing to do, but some still try” and gives a link. One of my right wing friends sent that link to me a while back, going “SEE, SEE—I told you—-they want to make O’Bama a dictator”, as he wagged his dumb little tail (but only to the right—-he’s one of them right wing “hound dawgs” I mentioned elsewhere. .

        I’ll give you all the same reply I gave him. Democrat Congressman Sanchez (20+ years in Congress) did in fact introduce a joint resolution for a constitutional amendment to repeal the 22nd, which WOULD allow O’Bama to seek a third term (and he’d probably be re-re-elected because the voters would still reject the Repugnant’s idiocy). Then we’d have to see what he does before we could call him “dictator”, just as people with brains should be and are doing right now—-I too will call O’Bama a “dictator” IF and WHEN he does anything “dictatorial”. Being president requires some “throwing your weight around”, and I for one am glad that he’s doing it against the REAL dictators we face—the Repugs.

        A joint resolution for a constitutional amendment IS serious business. Guess how many co-sponsors Sanchez’s bill had? ZERO-NONE-NADA The bill then got immediately buried in committee (a committee controlled by Repugnants), and will likely never be seen again, as many if not most of them are.

        What’s really going on, you ask? In my opinion, the Dems are busting the GOP’s you-know-whats and daring them to bring this forward because they want to flush the Repug’s toilet on this “dictator for life” thing. The Dems want to let the world see that NO ONE in Congress would vote for repeal of the 22nd., and in that way it’s just a ploy to embarrass the Repugs. I’ll bet that someone at the White House even asked Sanchez to do it and they’re all laughing about it—-I am.

        • Jeff

          I’m not entirely sure that repeal of the 22nd Amendment would permit Obama to run again. It might apply only to future presidents.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Not to chastise a guy I usually agree with, but eddie must have been half asleep when he said “Not a bad reply, Steph”, and then tried to be “polite” and “reason” with Steph, who said nothing BUT “bad” things, fact and logic-wise..

        Lord love a duck, eddie! Do you even read what people say to you in response to your attempts to be “polite” and “reasonable”? Do you think “polite and reasonable” works? Get with the program and educate these folks the only way that has a chance of getting through—massive spikes of truth right through the heart, delivered as I deliver them, of course (which is politely and reasonably, all things considered).

      • Kate8

        RBT- What a joke. You wouldn’t know the truth if it came down and crashed into your head. Which it may, one day.

        You waste your time if you think you will ever win any converts here. The only reason you are here is because you are paid to be here. And, btw, your methods of ridicule and nastiness only work to further incite rage among your own ranks against conservatives, who simply view you as insane and treacherous.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Kate, there is about 1 chance in a trillion of any “truth” you might spout coming down and crashing on my head, since “truth” is an alien concept for you.

        My “methods of ridicule” (although I use truth to ridicule lies) are perfectly appropriate for use against thinking that is beyond ridiculous, and my “nastiness” is something that you perceive only because you don’t like the “truth” I lay on you, i.e., you just can’t take it and resort to name-calling.

        Here’s a “massive spike of truth right through your heart”, delivered politely and reasonably, all things considered.

        You and MIchelle Bachmann are poster girls for “BATPUCKY CRAZY”.

      • Kate8

        RBT – Is there a snowball’s chance in h*ll that you’ll come around, even slightly, to our way of thinking on these threads?

        Didn’t think so. And we’re all doing it for free.

        Well, my delusional nemesis, there is even less chance that anything you say will serve to do anything but convince us even more (if that’s possible) that you are a treacherous liar and an imbecile.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Kate8 asks a question of me—-and then answers it for me—-and then uses “MY” answer to launch into some more of her very special brand of mindlessness. Why doesn’t she just talk to herself and leave us out of it? Because people might think she’s “crazy”?

        Kate8 is not as smart as many others on PLD who DO see that I share some of “their way of thinking” and have from the beginning. Only the mindless and ignorant non-thinkers don’t recognize that.

        Just because I don’t sit and automatically nod my head (like the old hound dawg sniffs and scratches), Kate8 shouldn’t assume that I disagree. There are plenty of folks coming here that just agree with the mindlessness and pat each other on the backs for doing so—-you don’t need another one in the circular firing squad. I choose to spend my time pointing out failures of fact, logic, language, and rational thinking—-all under the loose definition of “seeking truth” and out of a desire to provide “balance” to a very unbalanced dialogue..

        And anyone that calls me an “imbecile” is the one who is delusional and an imbecile. You need to “up your game” with the words you use, Kate. Talking about “treacherous liar” is pretty “imbecilic” also.

      • Vicki

        Extending a presidents term does not a dictator make. Allowing ANY president the powers to dictate will. Here are examples from the current president (I am sure that liberals can dig up examples from resent past presidents. You know, the people that tell us that gun owners are living in the past)

        http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/23/us/politics/shift-on-executive-powers-let-obama-bypass-congress.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

      • Kate8

        RBT – You know you’ve hit a nerve when the progs attack you.

        I’m just returning the favor, RBT. Throwing your own tactics back at ‘cha.

        You love to dish it out, but you sure can’t take it.

        BTW, another Leftist tactic: give lip-service to agreeing with some things, befriending the opposition.

        Not falling for it.

    • Phil

      Hey KG, where in any of these threads was there anything posted about Christianity that required your rant? First of all, if you are going to post something related to the Bible, at least get your facts straight. Your own ignorance shows up in your posts. And where does racism enter into the discussion of 2nd Amendment rights guaranteed by the Constitution? Isn’t that Amendment a basic right guaranteed to all citizens of the US? Why does it seem so far fetched to consider the possibility that a government that has unlimited power might become tyrannical or use its power to control the population? Hasn’t the past 100 or so years provided case studies of nations where the leadership disarmed the population and then went about systematically eliminating the weak or the infirm, or those who were targeted for “re-education” or just were deemed to be not wanted?

      I work for a company with no unions. It is one of the largest networking companies in the world. I make a satisfactory salary and don’t require any unions to further my cause. You post: “What good is it to have a Gun if you can’t afford to buy food for your family? Or buy a new truck? Or send your kids to college?” So KG, there is no universality of gun ownership required from the citizenry. You can choose to own a gun or not. You have to eat. So has this President and this administration significantly improved the lives of those who are having trouble putting food on the table? Or paying their mortgage or rent? You tell me. And don’t point to meaningless statistics posted by Government bureaucracies to make your case. Does it cost more today to buy the same basic necessities of life than it did 4 years ago? Does it cost more to buy gas or pay your oil bill? Does it cost more to send your son or daughter to school these days? (On that point, I might argue “no” because it seems that most young people who want to go to school and are considered “independent” can get lots of financial aid or a free ride). And that doesn’t even include the discussion on illegal immigrants who may already be getting a free ride. Has the cost of your health care gone done? Do you think that with the full implementation of the national healthcare system now underway, that your costs for healthcare will go down? If so, then I think you need to get your head examined.

      What about the recent GAO report that the MSM conveniently didn’t bother to report? Can a nation that continues to ignore its balance sheet continue to be a free nation? Both the Republican and Democrat parties are squarely to blame in this! You leftists who constantly whine about conservatives wanting to “end social security and kill grandpa and grandma” are the biggest inciters of fear and terrorism! Who among you really (with a bit of common sense and honesty) thinks that the conservative base of Americans (many of which are senior citizens) wants to gut social security and end Medicare? You fools! None of us wants to end these programs. But any sane individual knows that they MUST be changed or modified in some way in order for them to be sustainable. I am a 54-year old man and fully realize that social security may need to be delayed for me by a couple of years beyond retirement age so that the system remains solvent! What is it that you left leaning liberals don’t understand about accountability?

      I could go on here but trying to have a discussion and “let us reason together” seems to be impossible these days. And I don’t think that it is the right that is making this so….

      • eddie47d

        Hold on there Phil and step back a foot or two. I have heard over time several Conservatives say they want to abolish Social Security and have a pay as you go system geared to Wall Street. I have heard them say that Social Security doesn’t work and its government theft. Even though some citizens who live longer receive more than they put into this system. The Liberals do have a tendency to fight harder to preserve SS yet they also seem to be the ones who abuse it by taking money out of it more often (for pet projects) than Conservatives.

      • phideaux

        “I have heard over time several Conservatives say they want to abolish Social Security and have a pay as you go system geared to Wall Street. ”

        I have yet to hear a conservative say they want to abolish SS. I have heard several say they want to offer the option for people to invest their own money in the stock market if they so wish.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      KG, should you be talking this way about your messiah O and all his savior wannabes? O is the one who is lying to you and you bought his lies with a passion. Besides he has all the perks and goodies America offers and he plans to live it up but you are nothing more than a dumb schmuck waiting a long time for the handouts.

    • Hedgehog

      A much smarter man than I once said “Guns can always get you gold. Gold can’t always get you guns.” (Machiavelli) Think about it! Substitute food, fuel shelter or whatever you want for”gold” in the first part of the equation. Now do you get it?

      • Vicki

        Interestingly that is what a Canadian told me once when we were discussing preparations for natural disasters. That little comment is what cracked the liberal brainwashing I had been suffering from since public education / TV News.

        • Jeff

          “A much smarter man than I once said “Guns can always get you gold. Gold can’t always get you guns.” (Machiavelli) Think about it! Substitute food, fuel shelter or whatever you want for”gold” in the first part of the equation. Now do you get it?”

          Hedgehog:

          Was that Willie Sutton who said that? Bank robbers now-a-days use computers; you can’t get much with a gun except life in prison.

    • Bill

      You better get back on your meds, KG

    • Nadzieja Batki

      KG, aren’t you all members of the lovefest to O and reading some of the comments indicate that you all believe O to be a “Christian” instead of the Muslim he really is? If you believe O is a “Christian” why is it you denigrate O’s supposed fellow “Christians”?

      • Nick Czudy

        nadzieja..
        I actually think that Obama is agnostic or actually atheist. I think that his motions to be a Christian are only to passify the religious majority in the US. It would be suicide for him to acknowledge that he is not a believer. It is my opinion. i have no prove from other sources to say this. What I do know is that he is secular as far as keeping religion out of day to day politics.

  • Deerinwater

    “If an ultra-liberal comedian such as Maher understands this truth, why is the President making so much noise about restricting guns? I can conclude only that it is a means to a far different end.”

    You know why John. ~ Don’t you? Really?

    It’s politics. ~ He would be political unwise not too.

    • Steve E

      Obama is making noise about gun control because he wants to take everyone’s mind off Benghazi, Fast and Furious, and of course, the unsustainable debt. You got to admit though, he’s done a good job at that.

      • Kate8

        Everyone is still missing part of the bigger picture here.

        Obama knows many will not turn in their guns. In fact, he’s counting on it.

        “Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against… We’re after power and we mean it… There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.” -Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

        No one wants to look at this, but it is the obvious truth once you see it. Anyone concerned about gun rights, and Obama’s true agenda, REALLY needs to read this:

        http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52426

      • JeffH

        Kate8, right you are. I can think of 100,000,000 reasons why there ain’t gonna be any gun confiscation. The gun grabbers may be dumb but not all are totally stupid.

        y the way, were you aware that 300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM.

        ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.

        Join us in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT

        STOP IT

        STOP IT NOW

      • Kate8

        JeffH – Yes, but do you see their logic in this?

        They can’t round up (for elimination) law-abiding citizens, or they risk a credibility issue right now. So they make criminals out of everyone who refuses to hand over their firearms (incrementally, so they don’t have to do it all at once) so they have reason to arrest them.

        Of course, getting into a shooting match with Obama’s UN (and domestic) goons is sure to result in a show of great force, justifiable, of course, because the gunbearing citizens were breaking the “law”.

        It’s the perfect plan to eliminate the opposition to tyranny.

        The line in the sand is being drawn, and the feds will keep moving it inch by inch.

        The must be stopped. NOW.

      • JeffH

        Kate8, sure I see the logic in their illogical thinking. I just hope that others will snap out of their coma and begin to see the same things, or at least similar things. Isn’t that part of the process many of us do right here…spreading the word thru websites just like PLD.

    • eddie47d

      Oh poppycock Steve E. : Fast & Furious and Benghazi have been beaten to death and we’ll hear even more about that by tomorrow. I think its the far right who is trying to sweep gun control under the rug and pretend these mass killings have never occurred and are doing avoidance control themselves.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Poppycock? POPPYCOCK? I hate to get on your case again, eddie, but the minimally acceptable term you should use here is “horsepucky” (or “bullpucky” if you prefer).

        The filters will pass them and your fingers won’t fall off if you type them. Guys like Smurfeeeeee will laugh themselves silly in ignorance over “poppycock”, but they MIGHT understand “horsepucky”.

        Please take some advice from an old gunslinger and load your weapons with the proper ammunition. LOL

      • Steve E

        Poppycock eddie, or horsepucky, if you want to use RBT’s terminology. Fast & Furious and Benghazi are hardly mentioned in the mainstream media. If you and RBT would get you heads out of each other’s butt, you would know that. Perhaps you do know that but, I know both of you shills won’t admit it because your job is to pass on lies and deceit.

      • Don

        Really, Eddie, “Fast & Furious” and “Benghazi” have been beaten to death? Since you allege to know what happened, could you please explain both of these incidents to the rest of us so that we can also know what happened. Thanks Eddie, we are eagerly awaiting your explanation(s).

      • Kate8

        Don – The Left loves to use the “old news” line to blow off unanswered questions about their dirty dealings.

        I knew a man like that once. When he got caught being underhanded, he just said, “that’s all in the past”. Even if it was yesterday.

        You cannot deal with people who accept zero accountability.

      • Vicki

        Eddie47d writes:
        “I think its the far right who is trying to sweep gun control under the rug….”

        At least eddie knows one fact. I am not part of the far right cause it is obvious that I am not trying to sweep gun control “under the rug”.

        I bring it up often. Here let me do it again.

        ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT SHOOT ANYONE at all

        STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT for the acts of a few.

        STOP IT
        STOP IT NOW

      • eddie47d

        You control much Vickie with your idiotic parroting. Should I say hundred times that 300 million Americans watch TV everyday and are mindless trolls who never do harm to anyone. It would get rather nauseating to listen to that over and over again !

        • Frank Kahn

          I think you are over estimating the number of people who support Obama, there are not 300 million mindless people watching TV and voting for him.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Yes, eddie, they are STILL beating the old dead horses, even though those two ARE way too dead to beat. But they thought they had something there before the election (and they didn’t), and they think they have something now (but they don’t), so they will mindlessly continue to beat on the dead horses until nothing is left, even though the country has moved on and is not interested. I say good—-continue to prove that you’re out of touch and lose more votes.

        PS I enjoyed watching Hilary beat up on all the Repugnant stooges during the five hours of hearings today—-she is going to make a fine president in four more years.

        • Frank Kahn

          What a trashy piece of rotting matter you must have for a brain. Hillary would be even worse than satan, Obama is bad enough, we dont need the bride of Lucifer to follow him.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Nasty, nasty talk, Frankie I won’t return anything like one of your patented snappy comebacks—-not necessary, because it’s self-evident what lurks in your brain pan and in your heart—-trashy rotting matter. Get ready, because Hilary has been the Most Admired Woman in the WORLD for 11 straight years now, and she’s coming to get YOU in 2016.

  • Sam Nadeau

    All I can say is…he who controls the press…controls the people. America has been so dumbed down most folks believe what they are being feed and don’t look any further than…what’s in it for me. Khrushchev warned us a long time ago and as a nation we walked right into it with our eyes wide shut! There is no such thing as equality because there are too many differing factors that make it possible. The equality a controlling government seeks is the one where you are told what to do, where you will work, what you will be paid, where you will live, how many children you will have, and what religious views you can and can not have. It’s all about one world, one form of government, one religion, one standard of living…all controlled by a select group of elite families…no elections, no rights, no choices, and no alternatives. And America is slowly but surely walking down that path…it might take 25/50/75/100 years to get there but I don’t see anyone trying to stop it…of either political party.

    • Right Brain Thinker

      Sam gets it—–we are headed for a state of corporate feudalism with the the new “royalty” being the plutocracy.

      I will repeat my question—”A better question is “When are the delusional going to realize that they are being badly used by those who are really trying to take away their freedoms—the plutocracy and the corporate oligarchy.?”

      • http://www.facebook.com/jandeenphoto Jan Eric Deen

        The Cons of Western Civilization are Consume, Follow, Reproduce, and do not above all think and act for yourself. Re Tool All Values, dump all the labels into the trash where they belong. Stop watching the entertainers and politicians. Do and Create a future for the Species. The rest is distraction and destruction.

      • Steve E

        One good start to fight the corporate oligarchy is to stop buying any product from GE. They are on of the biggest offenders.

      • momo

        Right Brain Thinker says:”Sam gets it—–we are headed for a state of corporate feudalism with the the new “royalty” being the plutocracy.

        I will repeat my question—”A better question is “When are the delusional going to realize that they are being badly used by those who are really trying to take away their freedoms—the plutocracy and the corporate oligarchy.?”

        You forgot to add that the agent for the plutocracy and the corporate oligarchy is the government. Now I ask you, with the economic mess perpetrated by Wall Street, why has not one of these “elite” been prosecuted? I hear liberal progressives complain about those evil Wall Streeters, and yet this administration does noithing, except issue some regulations (Dodd-Frank) that nobody knows how to implement. Seems to me somebody should pay for blowing up the wordl economy, besides the taxpayer!

      • eddie47d

        I will agree with MOMO on this one. “why hasn’t anyone been prosecuted” because of the financial collaspe. They are all so deep into being involved that they have no way out except to shoot themselves in the foot.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        momo gets it too! “Now I ask you, with the economic mess perpetrated by Wall Street, why has not one of these “elite” been prosecuted? I hear liberal progressives complain about those evil Wall Streeters, and yet this administration does nothing, except issue some regulations (Dodd-Frank) that nobody knows how to implement”

        Good points all, and let me address a few.
        1) I seems that “settlements” and minimal fines (minimal compared to how much they stole) are the preferred way to deal with this. And the “promise to never do it again” is a joke—they have all gone back to business as usual after settling, especially Goldman-Sachs. The few prosecutors that really tried to put someone in jail didn’t get far.
        2) Some truly conservative conservatives have complained just as loudly as libs-progs. They too recognize who the true enemy is.
        3) Dodd-Frank has been fought every inch of the way and watered down by the special interests, with key provisions being neutered. A whole army of lobbyists specializes in fighting reform of the financial industry, and they are earning their pay. Dodd-Frank would do a lot of good IF we could implement it fully as it was written—-we DO know how to do it, but apparently lack the will.

        All the fools that scream “communist-socialist-Marxist” at O’Bama refuse to look at the fact that ALL OF THEM are too much bought and owned by the plutocracy and corporate oligarchy. The folks on the right have been fooled into thinking that their interests coincide with those of the “greedy rich”. O’Bama seems to have his heart in the right place and seems to care about the greater good, and that’s why he beat Romney, a plutocrat and Wall Streeter who didn’t care for anything but the rich. But he hasn’t done enough to go after the Wall Streeters. We shall see how it goes over the next four years.

      • momo

        Right Brain Thinker says:”All the fools that scream “communist-socialist-Marxist” at O’Bama refuse to look at the fact that ALL OF THEM are too much bought and owned by the plutocracy and corporate oligarchy.”

        Right Brain Thinker gets it, enought said. Hell, even eddie47d agreed with me, I better go to church and light a candle!

      • S.C.Murf

        right brain fart, these are the same people controlling obama and the rest of the govt. You know for being a education administrator you sure are a dumb a$$. maybe it was the school lunch room you worked in. That hill of mine you keep bringing up, I’ve already been up and down it a couple of times. You on the other hand are to fat to even start aren’t ya.

        up the hill
        airborne

      • Vicki

        eddie47d says:
        “I will agree with MOMO on this one. “why hasn’t anyone been prosecuted” because of the financial collaspe. They are all so deep into being involved that they have no way out except to shoot themselves in the foot.”

        As you will see eddie47d and I can agree on some things. The reason no one has been prosecuted is because GOVERNMENT agents and representatives are the cause. Here is the evidence in their own words:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imzMCrRyTi8

        Trouble is they ARE the government. They aren’t going to punish themselves.

      • Vicki

        And this video shows how far back the problem (Housing bubble) goes and just who did what and when and how it worked.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzWrnUezDOU

      • Kate8

        Vicki – The Lefties can’t allow themselves to admit that government is wholly in bed with the elite financiers, and is, in fact, controlled by them.

        If Lefties were to look at this, their world would fall apart. They look to government as their benevolent source for everything, their sugardaddy, their god.

        Without government to look to, they have nothing. Therefore, they must continue to believe the lie at all costs. That is why they are so useful to tyrants.

      • Vicki

        All good points Kate8. We have pointed out many times that the problems caused by corporations can all be traced back to government force.

        Now with obamacare it is right out on the table. No corporation ever had to power to FORCE us to buy their product before government gave them that power. Even though requiring auto-insurance to drive a car on public roads is much the same thing, obamacare goes one step beyond and forces you to buy insurance just because you breath. Not even voting requires you to be alive.

      • Kate8

        Vicki – So true, and positively priceless!
        :) :)

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Smurfeeeeeee’s back. Once again trying to have a discussion by insulting someone first. And continuing the insults. (?)

        Yeah, Smurf, did take my turn with the administrators and “work in the school lunchroom”—it was called “cafeteria supervision” and we had to do it because we had 500-600 kids in there each lunch shift and they could get out of hand. It was a good time to talk to the kids and get to know what was on their minds, but it did get old after 20+ YEARS.

        Smurf tells us he has been “up the hill a couple of times”. Bravo, Smurf. He then has to try too hard and say, “You on the other hand are to fat to even start aren’t ya?”

        FYI, Smurf, I have over 35.000 miles logged riding a bicycle, and I maintained the 210 pounds I weighed when I graduated from High school 50+ years ago right up until a couple of years ago when my heart acted up a bit—I now go 230 and I DO feel a little “fat” but I’m working it back down. And I did physically run some kids down when I was around 40—did a lot for my “legend” when it got around the school. Thanks for asking.

  • Don Ruane

    I think you finally got it right. He was born to a Muslin father, adopted by a Muslin stepfather, schooled in a Muslin school, only got permission from the Enlightened Ones to leave the ‘so called religion’ at age 32 to pursue his Political career with Muslin money and the ability to seal his true identity.

  • Roger Chappelle

    Much of your characterization of Obama’s attitude toward Islam could be said of George Bush who proclaimed Islam a religion of peace. He like every president before him has been critical of Israeli policy, especially the continued settlement construction in the west bank. One Bush comment on Israeli bellicosity, “it’s not helpful” was made several times on national TV. You mention Bill Maher. He supports president Obama and he is Jewish. Why would he support a president who wants to convert America to Islam? And Mr. Maher is in a position to know about such a conspiracy.

    In your piece you do not give a single concrete fact based on reputable and reliable sources. Instead you quote some ‘neighbor” who didn’t like the president’s facial affect and concluded that the president was ‘cold’ toward Israel.

    Your entire piece is like this: innuendo, illogical conclusions, loose conspiratorial connections between events not connected and phrases out of context. Citing the president’s criticism of Isael you neglect the many many times he has re-affirmed America’s commitment to Israel and stated that Israel has a right to defend itself as was also stated by Presidents Bush, Clinton and presidents before them.

    The remark, “we are no longer a Christian nation” refers to the fact that citizens of many religious beliefs live here and we can’t impose Christian values on them. President Obama attended a christian church in Chicago for a very long time and there is no record of his having practised the Muslim religion. Ask yourself this: would a president who championed Gay rights be in sinc with the notoriously anti- gay Muslim community?

    A good example of the misuse of facts is your stating that 57% of Americans think that we are going in the wrong direction. Clearly you mean that to be taken that those 57% dissaprove of the president who as it it turns out recently enjoyed a post election 57% approval rating!

    Most of America’s dissatisfaction is with congress whose approval rating is in single digits, with conservative congressmen in particular, with businesses which drive the economy into the ground, gun owner zealots who block any reasonable attempt to regulate fire arms and reduce homicides, politicians who try to control women’s health access, and mostly I think, the mean spirited, character assassination and Machiavellian tactics of people like yourself and the commentators on this page who agree with you using the same venomous language. You and your ilk will say anything no matter how scurrilous, nasty, dishonest and distorted to rouse the weak minded to embrace conspiracies.

    The worst of it all is that spew out abomination while wrapped in the flag and professing to be true Christians and, most egregiously in your case, while selling something.

    I don’t expect these words to have any positive affect on you or your followers. Your default response to disagreement appears to be steadfast fury, hate and vituperation.

  • jopa

    Myers said Obama has surrounded himself with people that want to take away your gun rights , when in fact he is surrounded by John Q Public, the American people that just want a little gun legislation to curb the violence.Assault rifle and clip limitations that every true sportsman knows are not necessary for hunting animals just for killing people.

    • Steve E

      Sorry, but gun legislation never curbs gun violence. Check out Chicago.

      • Vicki

        And it never curbs violence because it only punishes the innocent. The

        ~300 MILLION AMERICANS who DID NOT SHOOT ANYONE.

        STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT for the acts of a few.

        STOP IT
        STOP IT NOW

    • Ted Crawford

      In the first case, the Secind Amendment was not written to aid Hunters or Sportsmen! Even Liberals, before they were executed by Progressives, knew and respected this fact!
      ” Certainly one of the chief guarentees of Freedom under any government, no matter how popular and respected, is the right of the Citizens to kaap and bear arms” Hubert Humphrey
      “Gun bans don’t disarm criminals, gun bans attract them” Walter Mondale
      “By calling attention to a well regulated Militia, the security of the Nation, and the right of the People to keep and bear arms, our Founding Fathers recognized the essentially Civilian nature of our economy. The Second Amendment still remains an important declaration of our basis Civilian-Military relationship in which every Citizen must be ready to participate in the defense of his Country! For that reason the Second Amendment will always be important” John Kennedy
      In the second case, the Progressives ultimate end-game IS Confiscation!
      “” We’re bending the Law as far as possible to ban an entirely new class of guns” Rahm Emmanuel
      “We’re going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless Legislation Strategy! We’re going to beat guns into submission” Charles Schumer
      ” If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, pick up everyone of them, Mr. $ Mrs. America, turn ‘em’ all in, I would have done it!” Diane Feinstein

    • JeffH

      300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM.

      ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.

      Join us in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT

      STOP IT

      STOP IT NOW

      • Kate8

        JeffH – Haven’t you gotten it yet? THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT.

        It is the innocent, the Godly, the Constitutionalist, the moral and the sovereign who they are after! In order to do this, they must find a way to criminalize good people… because these are the very people who stand in the way of their success.

        Stalin, Lenin, Hitler and Mao all did this. Obama is following exactly in their footsteps.

        We can scream and petition ’til the cows come home, but they aren’t going to hear us. They have a plan to ELIMINATE US, and they aren’t going to give it up just because we ask them to. This system has been hijacked and is hopelessly corrupt as long as these people remain. Elections are rigged, so voting them out isn’t going to happen. Besides, we don’t have time for that.

        Obama is purging the military of Constitutionalists. He wants only those who agree to fire on Americans.

        It’s going to come down to FORCE. The question is, who will win?

      • JeffH

        Kate8, yes, I do understand and I do get it.

      • Vicki

        Yes Kate8. We do understand it. Now we just have to help many million Americans to realize that THEY are being punished by all the gun-control laws. Not criminals. THEM.

        Their rights are being infringed. And with guns only in the hands of government (and criminals) there will be nothing to stop them from taking any other rights or properties they desire.

        • Nick Czudy

          Hi Vicki, (snip) we just have to help many million Americans to realize that THEY are being punished by all the gun-control laws. Not criminals.

          Why? Millions of Americans do not have to be brain washed that they are being punished. they will not suffer in any way, except to possible be a little safer.
          The gun laws will filter down to making it harder for the criminals to also get these weapons. Most of the weapons that they get come from straw sellers and the new regs will punish and prosecute these straw sellers from procuring guns for the criminals.

          Guns will also be in the hands of any one that wants them. It is a myth that the Gun Lobby is constantly trying to instill in all of their supporters. This is not what is happening. It is a myth.
          regards

          Nick Cz

      • Kate8

        Vicki and JeffH – Exactly. In fact, the government is ARMING the criminals, preparing to unleash them on us.

        Plus, when they send their various goons around to enforce “mandatory” things like vaccinations, home inspections, relocations, confiscations of provisions, and infringement of other rights, they want us unable to defend ourselves.

      • Don

        Yeah Vicki, listen to Nick Czudy, he really knows what he’s talking about. I’ve read some of his posts, and this guy is really, really smart, just like Barack. With new anti-gun legislation, those 300+ million guns out there should be off the market and out of the hands of criminals in no time. I’m sure the gang-bangers will even volunteer to turn their guns in. And of course, Nick will tell you that there would never be a black-market for guns, or that smuggling guns across the Mexican border from all over the world wouldn’t be more lucrative than drugs. And after all, heroin and cocaine have been outlawed, and we all know that those drugs are not a problem anymore. Why the heck wouldn’t we all want to turn our guns over to a government that is under no duty to protect us from criminals, are not obligated to dispatch an officer when you call them for help, and are free from having to pay damages for not protecting us when we call 911. C’mon Vicki, get with old Nick’s program. He’s too smart to fail.

      • Vicki

        Nick Czudy says:
        “Why? Millions of Americans do not have to be brain washed that they are being punished.”

        Quite true. They need to be freed of the brainwashing that keeps them from seeing their punishment.

        - Nick Czudy: “they will not suffer in any way, except to possible be a little safer.”

        They will be safer with more punishment? What nice people you are.

        - Nick Czudy: “The gun laws will filter down to making it harder for the criminals to also get these weapons.”

        Demonstrably false. See war on (some) drugs.

        - Nick Czudy: “Most of the weapons that they get come from straw sellers and the new regs will punish and prosecute these straw sellers from procuring guns for the criminals.”

        Much like the current regs will punish and prosecute the fast and furious straw BUYERS (not sellers).

        - Nick Czudy: “Guns will also be in the hands of any one that wants them. It is a myth that the Gun Lobby is constantly trying to instill in all of their supporters. This is not what is happening. It is a myth.”

        If this were so they would not need ANY gun-control laws.

        And btw

        ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DIDN’T SHOOT ANYONE

        STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT for the acts of a few

        STOP IT
        STOP IT NOW

      • JeffH

        Vicki, Don, Kate8, Is it me or am I seeing a similar pattern of “logic” from both Nick and Loechner(Falsy)?

        I really think Ron White was right, no matter how hard you try.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL6wbsGx9qw

      • http://www.facebook.com/sirwilliambolton William Wiley Bolton

        The DHS just ordered 7000 M-16s. Wonder what they need those for? Planning a war in the homeland? Liberals in power are a danger to life and limb. Traitorous behavior and violation of oath of office is rampant in Washington, DC. A real fight is coming since the criminal element took power by voter fraud.

  • http://www.davidlerickson.com David

    All I can say is that John Myers is in the business of shock journalism. Truth doesn’t matter to some writers who pretend to be a gun toting, Bible thumping conservatives just to earn a paycheck..

    • Frank

      Interesting that the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has praised Obama’s action as a good beginning. I am not sure that I would agree that their motive is to bring Islam to the U.S. Neither would I classify the hierachy of the Roman Catholic Church as conservative, so I guess they
      fall into the “gun grabber” group.

  • Sam

    How is it anti christian to say the US is too much pro Israel?

    • eddie47d

      The bald assertion that Obama has a “kindred spirit” with Ahmadinejad is way over the top. Obama’s boycott of Iran is having a devastating effect on parts of Iran and their economy so I doubt if there is any love fest going on! John says Obama is “endangering Israel”. Hardly and he is being pragmatic in trying to keep them from starting another war by attacking Iran. The news today said that Netanyahu won by a much lower margin than originally anticipated so his gun ho style is not as popular as previous thought. I do believe Obama has fallen into the trap like all other presidents in kowtowing to the Saudis. Will the Saudis hold Egypt and other countries in line or will they sometime in the future turn against the USA and use all that weaponry to control the region?

  • Johnny D

    Our first line of defense against criminals and tyrants is not 911 but indeed is the weapons we keep handily to answer threats that compromise our securitiy and freedoms.

  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    I beg to differ on this one. Obama goes to the same church that Stalin did. Christians, Jews, and Muslims recognize the existence of God. Obama doesn’t. He is an equal to god in his mind. Politically and religiously speaking he’s lock step in line with Stalin’s teachings. Sure he wooes the Muslims and gives recognition to the Jews and Christians. The Emperor Caligula spoke for him when he said: “If I am man, then my “subjects” must be something else. If they are men, then I must be something more”. He’s the ultimate charismatic Nacissus of today or you might say number two behind Satan. To say he’s a muslim would be to say he would recognize some kind of authority over him. He doesn’t recognize anyone or thing other than himself. His handlers know what he’s all about. When he speaks he speaks truth, it’s his truth. That’s why it is hard to catch him in a lie. He doesn’t show it when he does. Right now he is faced with a must win battle and that is, disarming the American people’s ability to defend themselves. The stage is set pull a 9/11. 9//11 took us into a war wirth Iraq when Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. America’s ligitimate gun owners are the target where they had nothing to do with the Satanic killer in Sandy Hook.

    If people don’t wake up, and soon, expect a krystal nicht in America. He’s on the offense and we’re still reeling from his punches. It’s time for all of us the realize we have a common enemy and quit bickering among ourselves.

    • eddie47d

      The “common enemy” Christian American is hate and division and you leveled plenty of that on us in that rant. You give way too much credit to what and how Obama thinks and its your ego in what we have to worry about!

      • Jeff

        WWJH? Who would Jesus hate? These self-proclaimed Christians are the most non-religious people I’ve ever encountered. They pursue the exact opposite of everything Jesus ever talked about but they do it “in the name of Jesus.” I wonder which assault rifle Jesus would use.

      • Robert Smith

        Matthew 26:52 “Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword.”

        Rob

      • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

        The “hate” I am talking about can be found in John 8:44. Would you have a love affair with a Hitler or Stalin? or rebuke them for what they are.

  • Don

    Islam has two sets of ethics-dual ethics. There is one set of ethics on how to treat the Muslim brother and a second set of ethics on how to treat the non-Muslim. Non-Muslims can be treated kindly or they can be treated as the enemy of Allah. Their goods can be taken(re-distribution of wealth); they can be insulted, enslaved, and murdered if such treatment will advance Islam. There is one set of ethics for the believer and another set of ethics for the unbeliever. Deceit(pretend to be a Christian), violence and force(gun control) are acceptable against the unbelievers who resist the logic of the Koran. Evil is whatever resists Islam. All governments must become Islamic to achieve the peace of Islam.

  • nc

    Mr.Livingston, there seems to be some confusion with your preachers here in wingnutville! Mr. Root preached that American was headed in the right way and would take ONE TERM ( yeah, right) out in a landslide. Now Mr. Myers says it appears American is headed in the wrong way by agreeing with ONE TERM(yeah, right).
    It’s just an observation and should be of no great concern because the people who come here for guidance seemed to confused anyway. They seem to be afraid of a lot of different things here at the asylum. The government is going to confiscate all of their guns??? Really? Any one got a picture of that? The government has camps for the Non- believers??? Anyone here have a relative in one?? The government is shooting our school kids in false flag events???? That is a real puzzler! The Conservatives who worship the gun are the same ones who want to do away with public education because it is too expensive NOW want to add GREAT COST to education by placing armed guard in over 120,000 schools so no one will regulate their guns?????????????????????

    • JeffH

      300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM.

      ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.

      Join us in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT

      STOP IT

      STOP IT NOW

      • mark

        Does this make you feel powerful or something to put everything in capital letters? All you’ve produced is the same tired old slogans that irrelevant white people shout at the TV when their drunk.

      • JeffH

        mark, mark, mark don’t tell lies. Any normal human that hasn’t let their emotions get the best of them can clearly see that “everything” is not in caps.

        Please join us in getting the right words out that ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.

        Join us the NRA, SAF, GOA, NSSF, NAFGR et al in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT or join the NRA http://home.nra.org/#

        STOP IT

        STOP IT NOW

      • JeffH

        Sorry, mark,mark,mark, I forgot to mention that your racist remark was duly noted and unsurprising. Why am I feeling so much pent up hate coming from you progressive morons?

  • sam

    Myers – you are a moron — a million idiots must have been born for you to be born.
    What kind of crap you are spitting. shame on you.

    • Vicki

      sam says:
      “Myers – you are a moron — a million idiots must have been born for you to be born.
      What kind of crap you are spitting. shame on you.”

      Considering the quality of your post you must be one of them.

  • Bill

    Obamas ultimate goal is total gun confiscation, implemented in steps.

    It is amazing to see the progressive posters on this site say that the new gun laws are only against those “Bad Guns” and we can still keep our ” Good guns”, as if they are the determining source to know the difference.

    I wrote a post about a guy in my neighborhood that held a burglar at gunpoint until the police arrived. Eddie immediately shot back that no laws will be implemented to stop us from defending ourselves from criminals. I replied back that if that is the case then he should be able to use an AR-15 as the gun to accomplish that. He replied back that you did not need that type of gun as if we is the almighty authority on which gun I can use to defend myself.

    The proponents of the new gun laws are just shills to push a political agenda. Don’t even waste your time trying to debate issues with them because their motivations are different than what they say

    The new proposed gun laws are a step towards total confiscation and we need to fight them every step of the way

    • Steve E

      You are right on, Bill.

    • Jeff

      Yeah, guns are just the first step. When you guys are all in the gulag, we get to plunder all your stuff. I’ve got my eye on that old pickup with the gun rack on it. But how do I remove that confederate flag?

      • Bill

        Yeah, Jeff
        You can put that confederate flag next to your hammer and sickle

        • Jeff

          Please leave it full of gas.

      • Vicki

        Jeff says:
        “Yeah, guns are just the first step. When you guys are all in the gulag, we get to plunder all your stuff. I’ve got my eye on that old pickup with the gun rack on it.”

        I don’t think your masters are going to approve of you “spilling the beans” as they say.

    • Ted Crawford

      They have made this fact very plain over the years! “We’ll take one step at a time….We’ll have to start working again to strengthen the Law, and then again to strenghten the next Law… Our ultimate goal, Total control of handguns, is going to take time” Peter Shields
      ” Waiting periods are only a step, Registration is only a step. The prohibition of Private Firearms is the goal” Janet Reno
      They are simply following the example of one of their mentors here.
      “A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the Bourgeoisie” Lenin

      • Vicki

        Which is why we have to point out to millions of Americans that THEY didn’t do it. And they should be very unhappy at being punished for the actions of a few. We need to tell them that

        ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT SHOOT ANYONE.

        STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT.

        STOP IT
        STOP IT NOW

      • eddie47d

        Pushing for 200 Vickie? Borrrring!ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz!

      • Vicki

        eddie47d says:
        “Pushing for 200 Vickie? Borrrring!ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz!”

        Counting? You must be bored. :) Here, have another.

        ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT SHOOT ANYONE.

        STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT.

        STOP IT
        STOP IT NOW

        (Oh and a link to show that when government has reduced the amount of punishment, gun violence (all violence actually) goes DOWN. http://www.amazon.com/More-Guns-Less-Crime-Understanding/dp/0226493636 No you don’t have to buy the book. But now you know some search parameters for google)

    • Vicki

      Bill says:
      “It is amazing to see the progressive posters on this site say that the new gun laws are only against those “Bad Guns” and we can still keep our ” Good guns”, as if they are the determining source to know the difference.”

      I don’t know about them but here is a video of some bad guns. They just won’t obey orders.
      http://personalliberty.com/2013/01/23/do-guns-kill-people-pistol-shotgun-assault-rifle-put-to-the-test/#comment-818533

      - BillI: “The proponents of the new gun laws are just shills to push a political agenda. Don’t even waste your time trying to debate issues with them because their motivations are different than what they say.”

      We haven’t spent much time debating with them because, as you pointed out, their motivations are different than what they say.

      - BillI: “The new proposed gun laws are a step towards total confiscation and we need to fight them every step of the way.”

      Which is why I came up with

      ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT SHOOT ANYONE.

      STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT for the actions of a few.

      STOP IT
      STOP IT NOW

      To help in that fight. Specifically to combat all the attempts to use statistics to excuse placing restrictions on law abiding citizens (That ~300 million) in direct violation of the 2nd amendment and thus punishing them for the acts of a few.

  • DavidL

    With this latest example of the typical rant from the bat-crap-crazy crowd, John Myers, you have demonstrated that you, and many, many who write on this site, are no longer relevant in the broader discussion of the problems facing our nation. As we used to say in the Army, you are FUBAR.

    • Ted Crawford

      Thank You Comrade, for your totally useless Rhetoric, completely devoid of any substance!
      How about this from an FBI Crime Report?” The Nations murder rate is near a fourty year low and the number of Privatly owned guns in the U.S. is at an all time high and rising by about 4.5 Million annually.
      Right-to-Carry States had lower ‘violent crime’ rates, on average, than the rest of the Country.
      Total violent crime in Right-to-Carry States was 24% lower, murder – 28% lower, – robbery – 50% lower, – aggravated assults – 11% lower.
      The Cities with the highest Murder rates were Cities with server gun control”
      ” Gun bans don’t disarm Criminals, gun bans attract them” Walter Mondale

      • Vicki

        The statistics are good but unlikly to affect the anti-gun crowd. That is why I went to the most meaningful statistic.

        ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT SHOOT ANYONE.

        STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT.

        STOP IT
        STOP IT NOW

        (Oh and a link to show that when government has reduced the amount of punishment, gun violence (all violence actually) goes DOWN. http://www.amazon.com/More-Guns-Less-Crime-Understanding/dp/0226493636 No you don’t have to buy the book. But now you know some search parameters for google)

    • Vicki

      DavidL

      What a delightfully useless set of ad hominem attacks and arguments to ridicule. And there we were so hoping you would offer something meaningful.

  • ibcamn

    WoW,is this why he allowed and faught for a islam capital in New York at ground zero?been telling you!told you the PC gloves were off!this is what happens when a black man that is raised by his nut job mother alone and then put in any type of power.you now have a man who wants it his way only and will not listen to anybody except his wife(mother figure)and his black think alike friends!!just be lucky i don’t say negro all the time,or the “n” word.when wnd where i was brought up,that was a common and some times propper wording because of how they acted(just like how Obama’s acting now)and most people think it but don’t say it.they don’t want to rock the boat,and look what it’s getting you now!hope your happy when he throws your ass in a fema camp!it will be just the elite and us,and us is losing!!…this is why he didn’t want his past into the public light,so you wouldn’t know he was insane and gonna try to be a king!

    • Jeff

      Wow, did you really mean to tell us all that sh*t about yourself? I mean your post concerning Obama is pure trash, but you’ve announced yourself as one of the nation’s foremost bigots. Congratulations.

    • http://inplaceoffear.blogspot.com Duncan McFarlane

      ibcamn – What you’ve written here is parroting the nonsense the elite tell you in order to control you and distract you from the fact that they – the super-rich (like Rupert Murdoch), the big banks and the big companies (like Murdoch’s News International which owns Fox News) – are getting big tax breaks and government subsidies from you, the majority. And you’ve added in some genuine racism – any black person who acts like the equal of white people is “uppity” in your view and so deserves to be called a “negro”. Racist is the only word for that. You should be ashamed.

      The “Islam Capital” you refer to never existed – it was a mosque plus an inter-faith community centre and it wasn’t at Ground Zero, it was several blocks away from it. You swallowed the propaganda the real elite wanted you to though and repeated it

      And what is this rubbish about “throwing your ass in a Fema camp”. Any examples of FEMA doing this to anyone under Obama? Even one? Bush did have armed mercenaries like Blackwater come and tell people in New Orleans they couldn’t go back to their homes after Katrina because the Bush admin used it as an excuse to let donors to Republican party funds demolish public housing to make way for luxury flats to rent to the wealthiest

    • Karolyn

      “a Islam capital”???????????

  • tony newbill

    Mr. Myers between the Globalism that is taking place USA Sovereignty is OVER. We are being Ground up and spit out into a One World Order . What do you think about this ?

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/does-china-plan-to-establish-chinese-cities-and-special-economic-zones-all-over-america

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      In legal language, Obama most the other legislaturers are committing MUTINY against America. MUTINY: Willful refusal to obey constituted authority. The Constitution is our legal authority and their committing mutiny against.

      • tony newbill

        Where are the pro capitalists who set economic policy in Congress for US free enterprise interests so we can be the ones that develop produce into finished products and then trade /sell the merchandise for an equity gain to these foreign trade partners ?
        And why is it the groups that drove US Enterprise off shore to these same Asian lands now not pushing back against this encroachment on their sovereign territories ? This tells me that these environmental groups are not pushing the kind of change they rallied support from the public over the years that De-industrialized the production equity of the private sector business in the USA that paid tax revenues but instead the whole dam goal was to leave the USA in a state of dependency on these foreign trade partners and this be how the Global order could reshape the way the World economic system functions and distributes /controls the rate of consumer consumption .

  • roxy

    people stay focus,He want to control the mass,with taken away your guns,We need to be able to protect our self,when the nation falls.He gave himself life time secret service for him and George Bush,Who are to bring down our nation.He will not be here when the [EXPLETIVE DELETED] hits the fan.He will be put underground in the secret bunker,that the government has build.with food and a place for them to live,after the war start

  • roxy

    Our founder father new,that we would face a dictor,See they were God fearing men.They read and under stood the bible,Obama sold his soul to the devil.That why he does what he does.

    • Jeff

      I imagine it must be really painful to be so crazy. I’m truly sorry.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Don’t be sorry for her—-she has a wonderful chance at a career writing movie scripts. As in,

        “The Marxist Muslim Zombie President From Kenya Who Sold His Soul To The Devil”

        It will be placed in the “Batpucky Crazy”genre by Netflix and I will be one of the first to NOT add it to my queue. .

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

      roxy: Our founder father new,that we would face a dictor,See they were God fearing men.They read and under stood the bible,Obama sold his soul to the devil.That why he does what he does.

      Yes, you are correct, roxy. Anti-big-government pro-gun extremists founded America. They declared that it was “self-evident” that “certain unalienable Rights” (among them the right to keep and bear arms) came from “the Laws of Nature and Natures’ God,” and were not to be altered by government. The British government of the American colonies believed government was the source of rights (as all governments do). Increasing conflict between British law and Americans’ natural rights caused rebellion by the colonists. The British government met the rebellion with increased military force. The British attempted gun control, marching to confiscate “rebel” guns and gunpowder stored at concord, Massachusetts. Shortly before daybreak on April 19, 1775, 65 Minutemen gathered in Lexington, Massachusetts, and boldly challenged government authority to confiscate guns. America would endure eight years of war and 25,000 Americans would die rather than submit God-given rights to government by accepting gun control.

      Yet today America has the largest, most powerful government in the history of mankind – a government far more controlling, taxing, and demanding than our founding generation
      abolished. However, not all of the “founding-fathers” were Christians.

  • http://inplaceoffear.blogspot.com Duncan McFarlane

    “Could it be that Obama’s most strategic goals are compromise, compassion and a coupling with Islam?If true, it borders on treason against the Judeo-Christian values that shaped Western civilization and the United States. Yet the President’s goal becomes more achievable as we waste our time defending something that not even he can yet take away from us: our 2nd Amendment rights.”

    first you have zero evidence of this and there’s no rational reason to believe it. Second you talk as if all Jews and Christians have identical values to every other Jew and Christian, which is not the case – there are socialist, liberal and conservative and all kinds of other Christians ; there are violent fundamentalist, peaceful fundamentalist, moderate and progressive versions of Islam held by different Muslims. There are many moderate Muslims and Christians and Jews who have more in common with each other than with the extremists of any of these religions.

    And when Obama said he would stand with Muslims if things turned in an ugly direction the obvious meaning is if irrational prejudice against all Muslims that wrongly treats them all as supporters of terrorism or Al Qa’ida starts up – i.e he would stand with a weak minority if many of the majority turned on them and started irrationally hating all of them, the same way people irrationally hated all Jews across most of the world (including the US) until after World War Two

  • roxy

    Look up agenda 21

    • Robert Smith

      Done that, been there: “Agenda 21 is a non-binding, voluntarily implemented action plan of the United …”

      What part of “non-binding” don’t you get?

      It isn’t a threat to anything in America.

      Rob

      • freedomringsforall

        You would be correct if all government bodies and lawful bodies within the USA would not make any regulations or legal decisions that support it.
        That just is not the case though.
        Especially this Obama federal administration is all for it and doing everything in it’s power to institute the principles of he internationalists agenda 21.
        Many State and local bodies within the USA are leftist and are working hand in hand with the internationalists and this federal administration to implement it also.

        So, it may be in theory “non-binding”; but if the agencies and governmental bodies and law enforcement bodies within the USA go along with it then it becomes reality.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        And in spite of Freedom’s paranoia, it may actually produce big profits for the multinationals when implemented, and that’s why it isn’t as big a deal on the circular firing squad circuit as other topics.

      • Kate8

        Agenda 21 is being implemented at breakneck speed in the town where I live.

        Originally, our conservative Supervisor opposed it. But he was threatened or bought off, so now he supports it, against the loud voices of the people. He simply will not hear us.

        A thing is only “non-binding” if you can stop them. They’ve made it clear that they intend to go ahead with it no matter how much opposition they face.

        It’s always the force of money and violence, the things liberals claim to abhor, but use as often as possible.

        In all fairness, Agenda 21 is not a partisan issue, and is opposed by those on both sides of the aisle. It is a worldwide UN agenda.

      • Vicki

        Robert Smith says:
        “Done that, been there: “Agenda 21 is a non-binding, voluntarily implemented action plan of the United …”

        What part of “non-binding” don’t you get?

        It isn’t a threat to anything in America.”

        The same part of “non-binding” that government entities in the United states don’t get. You know. The ones that make Agenda 21 binding on us.

    • http://midcontent ridge runner

      Roxy, look ar what party pukes were the guiding the Agenda 21, and how it is strongly influnced by the UN amd who will handle violations of the dreamed up idoit agenda. When Booby Smuth spout BS about non-binding it is not a threat? The libatard should go back a see how it ties in the 100 0f thousands of new regualations that have been put on US citizens. Especially in the 2 years the marxist muslim and his facisr/communists pukes, put into effect if anyone buys any peice of private property anywhere. There are at least 7 federal agencies that must sign off on your privately owned property. First, Homeland Securit, Dept of Defense, Fed Dept of Game and Wildlife, Dept of Fisheries, Dept of Envior Quality, Dept of Energy, Dept of Ag, and then thevlast worthless sh-tbird organazation the EPA, has to approve what the other booktrained morons signed off on. Of course it all falls in to the dictator mindset of the muslim educated marxist and a matter of fact, all dumbocrap socialist/communist democrats when the party got into power. The major goal of these pervs it to destroy America and create adictatorship.

      • Jeff

        Ridge Rat:

        I know this post had to be a love letter to Chuckie because no one with an IQ above room temperature could read such drivel. Perhaps if you could write a single true sentence without the name-calling, whatever passes for an “idea” in your head could actually get communicated to another person.

  • Euclid

    It has now been verified by White House insiders that Obama Hussein is proved to be a Shit’te Muslim and not a Suni as many thought.

    Allah uh Akbar

    • Vicki

      And your source is?

  • http://Yahoo Charlie Helms

    The government is going to push this gun control too far and it is going to blow up in their face.

    • Vicki

      Not if we petition our representatives and tell them that:

      ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT SHOOT ANYONE.

      STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT for the actions of a few.

      STOP IT
      STOP IT NOW

  • slickzip

    ODUMBA wants to destroy freedom in America and make it a muslim country , and I say SCREW HIM ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  • ToughGuy1

    “From My Cold Dead Hands!”

    • Irish Love

      Amen Brother!! Their are some folks on here who would RATHER give up their LIBERTY for Security (free handouts) from the government. The very thing that OUR Constitution OPPOSES……OUR Forefathers were in contempt of BIG governemnt cause they knew what would occur…… and it is happening as we speak…. GOD Bless America!!

  • chuckb

    myers, are you kidding. “Could it be that Obama’s most strategic goals are compromise, compassion and a coupling with Islam?”
    barry’s inter most goal is to see his flag, the star and moon banner, flying over the world. it will be interesting to see how the comrades pulling barrys strings contain him and his religion when it becomes time to make their big move.

    • Jeff

      We have now reached absolute rock bottom. Leave it to chuckie to take a low level conversation to uncharted depths. A “man” with no information commenting on the imagined intent of the president. I’m sure you’ll be the first witness they call at the mock impeachment hearings you morons are probably arranging in someone’s garage. The only rule will be the first witness to say something sensible gets shot with a Glock. don’t worry. You’re in no danger, chuckie.

      • chuckb

        dang jeffy, i forgot to confer with you before making the last comment, a person who knows all, categorizes people by assumptions, a truly low informed character. worships a black muslim, considers everyone else in denial.
        did you change your panties today jeffy? or is it the wrong time of month?

  • real patriot one

    OBama at his acceptance speach, , America’s possibilities are endless. lets see, for who? Obama, the american people or the rest of the world stopping us and taking us over through obama. Congress and senate , stop being drunken fools. play back some of Ronald Regan innaugural speeches. remember that we , the american people fought and died for freedom from tyrany. stop it now, get your heads out of your asses. what would your fathers have said about Obama , stop Obama. dont let the constitution be destoyed. keep it , word for word.

    • Irish Love

      NAILED IT!!! IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!!!

      • Jeff

        Where’s actual proof of a blow job?

  • Right Brain Thinker

    300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM.
    ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.
    Join us in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT
    STOP IT
    STOP IT NOW

    JeffH must have found a post-it note on his computer screen when he arrived at work today.

    It said,
    “Jeffy, it’s my day off.
    Don’t forget to post some “~300 MILLION AMERICANS” to TRY to make RBT crazy!
    Loveya, Vicki”

    So Jeffy has done that in several places in the thread. In the meantime I have again beaten his remaining brains out while he was not paying attention.

    JEFFY—-PAY ATTENTION—-GO BACK TO THE “ALONDRA” REPLIES NEAR THE BEGINNING OF THE THREAD. THERE’S A SURPRISE WAITING FOR YOU THERE!

    • JeffH

      One more time for Half Wit…~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM.

      ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.

      Join us the NRA, SAF, GOA, NSSF et al in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT http://home.nra.org/#

      STOP IT

      STOP IT NOW

      • JeffH
      • JeffH
      • Vicki

        Isn’t it nice to see that RBT is passing on our message :)

      • eddie47d

        Jeff H does believe in a GOD and a duel god at that. The NRA and the GOA! I’ll stick with Jesus and His Father!

      • Vicki

        eddie47d says:
        “Jeff H does believe in a GOD and a duel god at that. The NRA and the GOA! I’ll stick with Jesus and His Father!”

        Would you be willing to honor Jesus and Our Father by not punishing the innocent for the actions of a few?

        ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT SHOOT ANYONE.

        STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT for the actions of a few.

        STOP IT
        STOP IT NOW

        • Nick Czudy

          God and guns. some how the two don’t seem to fit together.
          You asked what do I think that religion is? I would say that it is a belief that there is a higher power that is controlling our lives. This higher power is granted to have made our world and the universe. I understand that this helps people as they can feel that there is someone that will look out for us and if we do not understand something we can say that the higher power is in control. This is pretty lame. I think that until we acknowledge that we are responsible for our actions and the world we live in, we will not be able to deal with all of our life’s problems.

      • JeffH

        Nick, with all due respect, I don’t think many here really give a hoot what you think. I know I don’t.

        By the way, did you know that ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT SHOOT ANYONE.

        STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT for the actions of a few.

        STOP IT
        STOP IT NOW

        • Nick Czudy

          Thanks Jeff. that is great. Best regards Nick Cz

  • ROGER, Irish-Canadian LIBERTARIAN

    Sounds to me like Islamaphobia again and as usual from so many on this site. Don’t get me wrong I have NO USE for Obama ( or any other so-called Left/Right WING politico) BUT I also have no use for typical Christian Right Wing hatred. Israel, by its very actions is a RACIST Terroroist state, hiding behind the banner of Demcracy…AND… it is NO FRIEND of any Western country, much less the U.S. It is a USER run by COWARDS, who always exploits Westerners to fight its battles. the FACTS speak for themselves….or to put it another way. ACTIONs speak louder than words.

  • hk

    Another Article written from the Class of Retardation.. What is interesting not one of these contributing journalists have prove with all the GARBAGE running out of the wrong oriface.. BRING PROOF OF WHAT THIS ARTICLE and less with your retardation of someone else thinking found on walls in a public restroom.. If you so called journalists want to wade neck deep in the absurd articles go it.. Don’t subject all to your insanity and poison pen RHETORIC…. This article has no poof only saturated bull from the looney tunes dept….

    • JeffH

      Brilliant hk, just brilliant!

      It’s still a free country(literally free for many)and you’re more than welcome to exercise your right to stay and put up with all of this “insanity” or you could go to another website that suits your fancy. Your choice…right?

      • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

        Freedom merely means status, like serfdom. We were a nation that enjoyed that gift form God, LIBERTY. Everybody is free to a point. Freedom can be equated with liberty when you talk about the freedom a moral man has. Freedom also equates to freedom when you talk about the freedom Obama has to put us in bondage to him. Freedom and democracy, the two most dangerous words politicians use today. Satan loves them. Democracy as it’s practiced here means the freedom of the majority has to impose their will on the minority.

    • Robo

      Great line! It’s guys like Hannity that should be taken off the air. the President brushes his teeth in the morning and Hannity says he did that wrong too!

  • TML

    John Myers says, “Obama once pronounced, “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation.”

    Correction… the true quote reads, “Whatever we once were, we are no longer JUST a Christian nation.”

    Although, I would think such a statement isn’t so extreme even if the key word was left out, since it plainly states in the Treaty of Tripoli that the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.

    Moreover, I find the unconditional support of Israel, despite their well-known humanitarian crimes against Palestinian’s, to be irreprehensible. While I am no Obama supporter in the least, his refusal to unconditionally support Israel is the only thing I think he is doing right. It takes the blindness inherent in religious belief, the same blindness that led the Crusades, to support a people, or a country, by turning a blind eye from the crimes being committed on Palestinians. Israel gets away with things that the American people would absolutely not support if it was any other country.

    “Ahmadinejad declared most Jews in Israel “have no roots in Palestine, but they are holding the destiny of Palestine in their hands and allow themselves to kill the Palestinian people.””

    He is right. And it is evident to all who will dare to consider the truth.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q4eCimWL7I

    • Nadzieja Batki

      TML, it took so much verbiage to say you are in love with O and hate Israel.

      • TML

        Your ignorance is legend
        I explicitly pointed out that I do not support Obama in the least, and anyone on this site who has read my postings knows that. Btw, objecting to unconditional support does not equate to hate. Open your eyes and grow a brain.

    • chuckb

      your referfence to the treaty of tripoli and the quotation “this country was not founded on christian principles” this was written in the treaty, however, many have questioned this.
      it’s possible they wrote this to pacify the muslims. adams was very religious and quoted as follows, proclamation 1795 by john adams, “in prayer”

      That he would direct the administration of our Federal and State Governments, so that the lives, liberties and property of all the Citizens, and the just rights of the People, as Men and Citizens, may be forever acknowledged, and at all times defended, by Constitutions, founded upon equal rights; and by good and wholesome Laws, wisely and judiciously administered and duly executed.
      That he would enable Legislators and Magistrates of this Commonwealth, to discharge the important duties incumbent on them, that the People may have good reason to feel themselves happy and safe, and lead quiet and peaceable lives in all Godliness and Honesty
      io believe this country was founded on the christian belief, not on any religion.

      • TML

        The correct quote in the Treaty of Tripoli is, “the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”

        And while I agree John Adams was a religious person; that makes his upholding and proclamation of the Treaty in its entirety, even that much more significant.

        However, it was not John Adams that made that prayer, it was Samuel Adams. And while the last sentence you gave (“io believe this country was founded on the Christian belief, not on any religion.”) isn’t even part of that prayer, nor said by either John or Samuel, the fact that you make the difference in Christian belief and religion, I think supports the statement in the Treaty of Tripoli. What you quoted from the prayer reflects a moral system that could be a part of Christian belief systems (across various denominations even). That moral system, however, is not exclusive to Christianity or to any other religious doctrine and thus, the United States was not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.

        Even though the purpose of the treaty was to make peace, I doubt it was viewed as a way of pacifying or appeasing the Muslims. It was simply proclaiming what this country is about and reaching peace.

        • Jeff

          I think chuckie was referring to Gomez Addams.

  • http://midcontent ridge runner

    What was it, jeffy’s nap time or was playtime with his MAD ears and he found the shoe shine supply box. If he think he cann be a double for the muslim marxist, he maybe could since he has the BS socialist/communist line down pat, if he can only poor speaking skills down pat.

  • Tom Scott

    Just wonder why Obama need to use 2 books to take the Oath Of Office. One was Dr MLK’s Bible according to the report , but what about the other book ? I reckon it was the Koran. Obama is a raghead afterall and he knows he cannot abandon islam because there is a death penalty for that . So there we have it.”we no longer are the Christian Nation” because our” beloved leader” said so.

    • http://midcontent ridge runner

      Hit that black bull eye dead on. MLK past wasn’t a shining example of black history month. Do we really know if it was a book of MLK, or just covered up Queran? Since a muslim perverts are told that lying to all Christians and even other muslimworshipping pervs is ok as long as it facilatates the want goals. All marxist/socialist/communist democrats and muslims in the USA want to create a dictatorship and soon to be califate. The democrap convention again proves the democrats aren’t a Christian group, but another group of anything abhorant and pervert or not normal, they will embrace with their media lap pooches.

      • Karolyn

        And you, ridge runner, if you are Christian, are a poor example of one.

      • Nick Czudy

        Ridge Runner. (snip) You said……” The democrap convention again proves the democrats aren’t a Christian group, but another group of anything abhorant and pervert or not normal, they will embrace with their media lap pooches.”

        What is the big deal about being Christian? is that a sign of intelligence or wisdom or some higher purpose? What is the reason for your bragging that you are a Christian? How does that make you better than a “Dumborat”?
        Didn’t your mother or your Sunday school teacher ever teach you that it is not nice, to call people names?

      • Karolyn

        Nick – Didn’t you know that to some Christians non-Christians aren’t worthy and don’t count and are morally corrupt and perverse?

      • Jeff

        Ridge Rat:

        Because you are insane, it is difficult to discern your meaning, but if you are saying something negative about MLK, know this: You aren’t fit to lick his shoes.

    • Nick Czudy

      Hi Tom.
      The two bibles were MLK’s travelling bible, and the other one was Lincolns bible.

      You are another one of the conspiracy nuts here that thinks that Obama is a weak minded religious zealot. He is not Muslim or marxist or anything. The christian thing i am sure is for show, to not enrage all religious people in the USA. You really, do not need to worry about Obama trying to undermine your religious beliefs.

      It sure doesn’t look like this is much of a Christian nation. thank goodness. The sooner that religion is made irrelevant, the sooner we all can get on with more important issues, like climate change, the economy, famine, getting along with each other and solving real problems in stead of debating vacuous myths. wow I expect I will get a real barrage of expletives soon. haha.

      • Vicki

        Absent religion, why should we get along with you?

        • Nick Czudy

          Vicki. (snip) You said……”Absent religion, why should we get along with you?”

          I thought that if you were religious, that you were kind, moral, compassionate, truthful and all of the good virtues. So why would you not want to talk to a heathen such as me? You could show me the light?
          You could pray for me and God will come down here and turn me into a Right Wing gun hugger.
          Do you only chat with other religious people?

          Is there only some types of religions that you will communicate with?
          So many questions. :) Nick Cz

      • Frank Kahn

        Always ready to dispel a myth if you are ready to listen to scientific reasoning. The climate change issue is not what you think.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Being a believer in God does not make you a sap, believers know the difference between another believer and a non believer and know for their own safety to keep their counsel from fools.Nowhere does it dictate that you are supposed to be “nice” to anyone except fellow believers.

        • Nick Czudy

          Hi nadzieja. That is great. If you are a believer you can only communicate with other believers. That will be fine with us non believers. Great. thanks.

      • Vicki

        Nick Czudy demonstrates evasion by asking:
        “Vicki. (snip) You said……”Absent religion, why should we get along with you?”

        I thought that if you were religious, that you were kind, moral, compassionate, truthful and all of the good virtues. ”

        So I will repeat the question.

        Absent religion, why should we get along with you?

        • Nick Czudy

          Vicki. You asked why you should talk to me. well because you are religious. Your purpose in life is to be an evangelist and to recruit more lemmings to your cause. Nick. Cz

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Nick, what is your definition of “religion”. Most people have no clue, including you and most Christians.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        FrankKahnStein, I am ALWAYS ready to hear about “scientific reasoning” from you. Now you’re into “dispelling myths” also? Great! Tell us what we SHOULD think about “the climate myth”, since, through some sort of telepathy, you seem to know what we should NOT.

        As Dirty Harry said, “A man should know his limitations” and “Make my day”.

        • Frank Kahn

          The myth about climate change is that man made greenhouse gasses are a major contributor. they contribute to less than .01% of the total. So by reasoning, if you were capable of it, you can see that even if we totally eliminated all human caused greenhouse gasses it would not significantly affect the current climate change. References available on request.

      • Vicki

        Absent religion, why should we get along with you?

        Nick Czudy says:
        “Vicki. You asked why you should talk to me. well because you are religious.”

        I specifically asked you twice now, absent religion, why should we get along with you?

        Do you not understand the question?

        • Nick Czudy

          Vickie.
          Maybe I did not understand your question. You asked why you should get along with me.

          Well, if you are religious, you should be moral, kind, forgiving (you know, “turn the other cheek”), helpful, decent, follow the 10 commandments, do no evil, etc. So there fore you would want to get along with everyone. Would that not be true?
          You tell me. please. regards Nick Cz

      • Vicki

        Frank Kahn says:
        “The myth about climate change is that man made greenhouse gasses are a major contributor. they contribute to less than .01% of the total
        (snip)References available on request.”

        May I request the references? Please.

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Yes, Frank—-for once Vicki and I are in agreement when we both ask to see the “references”. But I don’t want to “see” them as much as I want you to explain them to us. If you can’t do that, you have no right to “judge” that they are valid “references”, and therefore should not be posting them. Nor should you be holding yourself up as a “myth buster” if you can’t explain for us the “science” you use to “bust myths”.

        How about clarifying some basic terminology for us? Should be easy for a great “myth buster” such as yourself. For instance how about talking to us about “climate change” and “anthropogenic global warming”—-what are they and how do those two terms relate to one another?

        I can see you’re off on the wrong track already by what you say here—-

        “The myth about climate change is that man made greenhouse gasses are a major contributor. they contribute to less than .01% of the total.
        (1/100 OF 1% OF THE TOTAL OF EXACTLY WHAT, FRANK?)

        “So by reasoning, if you were capable of it,”
        (YOU’RE MESSING WITH THE BULL AGAIN, FRANK—-REMEMBER THE HORNS)

        “you can see that even if we totally eliminated all human caused greenhouse gasses it would not significantly affect the current climate change”
        (NONSENSICAL STATEMENT BASED ON A FALSE PREMISE—-MAJOR LOGIC FAIL)

        (As Dirty Harry said, Frank—-”A man should know his limitations”

        • Nick Czudy

          Hey Right Brain thinker. The post that I am replying to had a variety of posts and quotes, so I am not 100% sure of what you wanted me to reply to. I think that is was to do with my comments on Global warming. So I will address that topic.

          Global warming has two possible causes. One is called “Precession” that is the natural wobble of the earths North- South Axis. Once it pointed to the North Star and over 100′s of years it is moving towards the star called Dubhe. This is similar to the effect if you spin a top and the top wobbles in an ellipse. While a top has a rapid wobble, the earth wobble has a time frame of any where from 14,000 to 25,000 years to make one circle. So this is the time frame in which the earth’s axis will change and with it our world climate.
          Since we are in the year 2013, and the recorded history of man in this world about 14,000 years, it is less than one complete circle of the earth. So the whole recorded history of man is less than one complete cycle. So we have not scientific evidence of its exact effect on the world. Since the axis changes, it will affect how much sun will shine on the Northern Hemisphere and it will no doubt cause things like the glaciers to increase and then recede. It will aslo cause the polar ice to melt and cause floods. It also could be what is behind things like the biblical great flood and Noah’s Arc and other such ancient great floods. that is as much as I know now, but some research and further reading will add more light to this phenomenon.
          I will include a link that I just found now, that has a visual graphic that illustrates this. The web page I am not recommending as it has a religious slant to it and I have not read their comments. So just look at the graphic.
          http://www.lunarplanner.com/HCmovies/HCmovie300Frame.html

          The second cause of Global Warming is man made and is what we are in control of. It is causing the natural precession to accelerate and is speeding up the process. This is caused by an increase of gases in the atmosphere that will cause the suns rays to penetrate and then they will not be able to escape back into the atmosphere. This will cause the earth to gain heat. That is what we are dealing with man made global warming.
          Natural things like volcanic action affected this effect as well. But it is mans release of CFC’s into the atmosphere that is causing a rapid rise in the atmosphere.
          I have posted a link to a site with dozens of articles from the scientific community that will be a whole day of reading. this is a real problem.

          Here is the link. http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/

          regards
          Nick Cz

      • Right Brain Thinker

        Nick, I’m sorry you misread my comment and had to waste the time replying here. I was speaking to Frank Kahn, not you. I have agreed with just about everything you have posted so far on PLD, but you are in way over your head talking about global warming, as evidenced by what you have said here. I hope you will keep reading and become better educated on the topic, although I fear your science background may not be up to it—-how much science training have you had?—-what courses have you taken?

        You said “I have posted a link to a site with dozens of articles from the scientific community that will be a whole day of reading”. I’ve got a science background, have been actively studying this and other environmental issues for over 40 years, and have read dozens of books and hundreds of articles on the topic—it will take you several weeks if not months of reading to get up to speed IF you have the background to understand what you are reading. I will flat out tell you that climate change/global warming has MORE THAN two possible causes, and the info you have laid out about “precession” shows that you don’t understand the subject. The two comments about “causing the natural precession to accelerate and is speeding up the process”, and “mans release of CFC’s into the atmosphere that is causing a rapid rise in the atmosphere” are WAY off base.
        .
        The “lunar planner” link is not a link to a religious site but to an ASTROLOGY site. Astrology is not science and the link has no relationship to anything other than that “precession” is used by astrologers as they “line up” the planets and make VERY unscientific statements about how that means something.

        I suggest you start your education by looking at the wikipedia entry on global warming —it’s a good overview. Read Storms of my Grandchildren, written by James Hansen to get “out front” on what is worrisome right now. There are many links on the wikipedia site and you can google many more. Do NOT read very far into anything that in any way denies global warming until you FULLY understand the science and what is said by the scientists who DO believe it is occurring. There are some “deniers” out there who are fighting a rear guard action against the vast majority that accept anthropogenic global warming, and you will become confused if you start with them.

        (You might want to look into Gaia Theory and Lovelock, as well. And The World in 2050 is a spellbinding look at where global warming may lead us)

      • Vicki

        Nick Czudy says:
        “Vickie.
        Maybe I did not understand your question. You asked why you should get along with me.”

        Ok. You did not understand the questions. I did NOT ask why we (not I) should get along with you.

        I asked ” ABSENT RELIGION why should we get along with you.”

    • Robo

      It was actually Abe Lincoln’s Bible

  • stevor

    o’bama’s “thing” is about Divide and Conquer because he doesn’t like the USA and prefers the New World Order where the UN will be a one-world-government. The USA is too big of a foe now, so he has to break it up. So, he tries to get everybody mad at everybody else, rivalries financially, racially, religiously, and everything else. Then if he can pull off “rioting” he can call in UN troops to “help” in the Martial Law and get what he (and his puppeteers) want.

    • Jeff

      The only politician on record saying “divide and conquer” is his strategy is that little fascist from Wisconsin, Walker. And he was talking about dividing public sector workers from private so he could break the unions. Who is Obama dividing – the few sane republicans from the rest?

      • http://midcontent ridge runner

        Jeffy, really are you that dumb, read the planks in every dumbocratc lassifacation election plan that has been in effect for decades. It has always been a MO of democraps, to divide everyone in to classes, to develope scripts and plant BS ideas, to get morons, like blacks, minorities, union thugs, queers and steers, and any other abhorant perverted group to hear what the dumborats will give them. So again all dumbpcrats show how damn ignorant and will never will grasp of what are real facts, and why socialist/communists are a threat to USA.

      • eddie47d

        Who’s really doing the dividing Ridge Runner with that rant? “queers and steers”, “thugs” I think you have the Republican platform down pat and you explained your MO very well!

    • Robo

      Who told you that? Bill O’reilly

  • Bimbam

    God sent a WICKED man to rule US during the latter days.

    Ohh America you do not know who you are. If by My blessings you forget, surely by My curses you shall remember!

  • chuckb

    ridge runner, glad to see you back. the bolsheviks have been in a orgasm since the black muslim was hatched again.

  • tncdel

    The author misses the larger picture: Obama’s first loyalty is to Soros’ New World Order. And his NWO agendas geared toward destroying U.S. sovereignty and dissolving our border is what we must focus on opposing.

    Like his common scheme ploy in cahoots with other globalists, many of who are RINOs or neocon Republicans, to give amnesty to illegals.

    Anyone with an IQ above that of a turnip should be able to realize that giving amnesty would only serve to attract millions more job-stealing illegals here. But that’s what the globalist are using to try dissolving our border.

    And one of the most vicious globalist traitors is MARCO RUBIO. Please see this exposing his treachery:

    http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/did-you-know-that-marco-rubio-gutted-31-illegal-immigration-fighting-bills-in-the-florida-legislatur/question-2608369/

  • Connie

    Knowing this man is so against the US-and Israel, it is beyond my comprehension he is the president.We better wake up!

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

    JAKARTA, Indonesia – Scores of Islamic students staged protests outside Jakarta’s parliament and in at least three other major Indonesian cities on Friday against President Barack Obama’s upcoming visit to this predominantly Muslim country.

    The students carried banners branding Obama as an enemy of Islam and an imperialist in downtown Jakarta as well as in the provincial capitals Padang, Yogyakarta and Surabaya.

    They also threw shoes at large pictures of Obama’s head. An Iraqi journalist was sentenced to a year in prison for throwing his shoes at U.S. President George W. Bush during a news conference in Baghdad in 2008.

    Protest organizer Ahmad Irhamul Fikri, spokesman for the Coordinating Board for Campus Proselytizing Institute, said bigger rallies will be staged next Friday in more Indonesian cities ahead of Obama’s March 20-22 visit.

    Such demonstrations of hostility toward Obama are rare in Indonesia, where he enjoys widespread popularity because he spend part of his childhood in Jakarta while his mother was married to his Indonesian stepfather.

    Local government officials allowed business people to erect a statue of a 10-year-old Obama in a Jakarta park in December. But it was shifted last month to a nearby elementary school that he attended after more than 50,000 people supported a Facebook campaign against it and court action was threatened.

    Obama is expected to sign the statue’s pedestal while in Jakarta.

    So they built a STATUE? Of OBAMA? Yup. A statue of Barack Obama as a boy was placed at the Jakarta Elementary School that he once attended. It is a bronze statue based on a childhood photograph shows a 10-year-old Obama smiling at a butterfly perched on his outstretched thumb. Problem is, many Indonesians argued an Indonesian hero should be honored instead.

    Now the Messiah is going there to sign his Idol. Himself. Hey you know, I bet no other “god” has ever come in person and signed the Idol Likeness of themselves. WOW. That is quite an Honour for them. What an idiot!

    • kimo3690

      HMMMMMMMMMMM and could this be why there is a sector of black educators who are outraged Obama used MLK’s bible in the inauguration proceedings?? They protest that “he” (Obama) has a long way to go to be “equal” to Martin Luther King. It appears more and more our leader is a NAZI will ill intent for the American people!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!

  • AWKingsley

    What is being nurtured is Globalism. An Islamic influence in America is part of the Globalist ambition. Allowing the Chinese to buy up our Natural Resources is another piece of the Globalist ambition. All of our presidents for many years have been pushing the New World Order Globalist agenda. Please write articles that move Republicans away from Globalism instead of just allowing them to blame Obama. The Globalists wanted Obama, and they got him. He is an important part of their agenda, just as the Republican horror of horrors Bush 43 was part of the Globalist New World Order agenda. Republicans need to start voting for clean candidates who are for State’s Rights to escape from the candidates who promote the New World Order.

    • chuckb

      what is being nurtured is zionism. they have control of our government as it is, they have control of barry, what a beautiful setup, barry is too stupid to realize they are using him, he gets all the games, vacations and dining while pretending he is president. the immigration reform will be to our detriment, once they get this through, it will be impossible to elect another conservative party even if we could find them. we are subjected to a congress who refuses to confront this administration, we are witness to the failings of our senate and congress in these beghazi hearings, allowing hillary to waltz through without addressing any of the criticism, the same goes for the fast and furious, the administration has made fools out of the committees investigating these events and no one seems to care. this is our laws and the constitution they are flaunting.

      • Nick Czudy

        Chuck, Is it possible that the Beghazi and Fast and Furious issues are non issues. rep Issa has desperately tried to find some Obama conspiracy to cover up. Well all that has been proven is that there was no conspiracy so when will the GOP let it die? it is a non issue? They can’t get blood out of a stone.

        • Frank Kahn

          Lack of proof is not proof of lack. It is an issue because it is not fully disclosed. whether full disclosure is wise is a different issue. But the full truth has not been revealed yet. It is only a non issue to those who are incapable of reasonable curiosity, those that accept the deceptions at face value and agree that it must be true.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

      Over the past several years, the Chinese government and large Chinese corporations (which are often at least partially owned by the government) have been systematically buying up businesses, homes, farmland, real estate, infrastructure and natural resources all over America.

      In some cases, China appears to be attempting to purchase entire communities in one fell swoop. So why is this happening?

      Is this some form of “economic colonization” that is taking place? Some have speculated that China may be intending to establish “special economic zones” inside the United States modeled after the very successful Chinese city of Shenzhen.

      Back in the 1970s, Shenzhen was just a very small fishing village, but now it is a sprawling metropolis of over 14 million people.

      Initially, these “special economic zones” were only established within China, but now the Chinese government has been buying huge tracts of land in foreign countries such as Nigeria and establishing special economic zones in those nations.

      So could such a thing actually happen in America? Well, according to Dr. Jerome Corsi, a plan being pushed by the Chinese Central Bank would set up “development zones” in the United States that would allow China to “establish Chinese-owned businesses and bring in its citizens to the U.S. to work.”

      Under the plan, some of the $1.17 trillion that the U.S. owes China would be converted from debt to “equity”. As a result, “China would own U.S. businesses, U.S. infrastructure and U.S. high-value land, all with a U.S. government guarantee against loss.”

      http://theintelhub.com/2013/01/23/does-china-plan-to-establish-china-cities-and-special-economic-zones-all-over-america/

  • Mike

    I hate to say this Bob, but these site & many, many others, are doing exactly what those who have controlled many presidents want you to do. You ALL argue points that never seem to gain any resolutions. You need to let go of your pasts & move on, WITHOUT arguing! You are all like the gerbel in the wheel: running as fast as you can, & getting nowhere fast; & you end up in the same spot EVERY time – arguing. Please, let us ALL live in the solutions NOT the problems!
    It is definitely true that the ashkeNAZIS occupying Israel NEVER had any right to claim the land they’re in. It has already been proven that their stealing that land was based on psychopathic/sociopathic intentions. Even their own people have been against them more & more!
    When are you people going to wake up, damnit!
    Get out of the illusions & back inti true reality!!!

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

    NEWTOWN — New information has come to light regarding the Sandy Hook School shooting, as the “official story” given to the American public is riddled with inconsistencies.
    According to and confirmed by GenealogyBank.com, the alleged lone shooter Adam Lanza that left 26 people dead on December 14, 2012 was documented to be deceased one day prior to the mass shooting that took place at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown Connecticut.

    The following data is available at GenealogyBank.com;

    The SSDI database shows Adam Lanza to be expired on December 13, 2012, one day prior to the school shooting. Confirmation Status is listed as “Proven”. However the state of issue is New Hampshire.

    The implications of this are unfathomable if accurate.

    Could this be why John Blawie, a Connecticut State Superior Court Judge has put a halt on search warrant affidavits?

    An excerpt from the local CT Post reads;

    DANBURY — A state Superior Court judge said Thursday that search warrant affidavits for the cars and home of Sandy Hook Elementary School shooter Adam Lanza and his mother would stay sealed for another 90 days.

    Judge John Blawie granted motions filed Wednesday by Danbury State’s Attorney Stephen Sedensky to extend the statutory sealing period for the five warrants, including three for the Yogonanda Street home where the 20-year-old Lanza fatally shot his mother, Nancy, four times in the face on the morning of Dec. 14, before embarking on the rampage that left 20 first-graders and six educators dead.

    • kimo3690

      HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM INDEED………. MUCH TO RESEARCH FOR SURE TY!!

    • Nick Czudy

      Jay, is this genealogy site a believable source? Can you give us a link? thanks Nick Cz

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

        Here’s the link, Nick. However, you do have to register in order to view contents.

        http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/doc/ssdi/v1:143EB37C71A1FA78

        • Nick Czudy

          Jay, I looked at the site. they were using Adam Lanza’s death to promote their site. they are on a recruiting drive. they showed the date of his death as when he killed himself. No big deal or controversy. regards Nick Cz

      • chuckb

        nick, the benghazi and fast and furious are definitely issues. this administration is covering up in both issues. he stopped issa with an executive order, he refuses to release documents pertaining to the benghazi tradgedy. in both cases they have lied to the committees, holder lied and hillary is in the process of lying today. hillary is an expert at dodging the law, she has had plenty of experience.

        the problem with benghazi, barry lied to the country as well as hillary, the congress appears to be afraid to push the matter for some reason. in fact barry lied during the debate with romney, he said he had previously said it was a terrorist attack, it was an obvious lie and again the media let it slide. these people lied to the american people and the country watched them do so on tv.

        i can guarantee, if this was a republican president that did the things barry has done in these two matters, you can rest assured the bolsheviks would be calling for impeachment.

        • Nick Czudy

          Chuck.
          Issa was given over 17,000 documents in his witch hunt for fast and furious. When he did not find what he was hoping he would see, he asked for all documents that had nothing to do with fast and furious, in his hope that he could see some little glimmer of something that showed a cover up. He was not interested in information about the actual operation, he was on an agenda to try and find something about a cover-up.

          Since there was not a cover-up, there were not any documents that showed that info.
          So he kept asking for more documents that were private and privileged and had national security issues. Since Issa was not accepting this after months of investigations, Obama put it to a stop as was rightly so. This was another purely political investigations from the GOP that had nothing to do with the real operation, but just a glimmer of some hope that they might find some corruption that they could hang on the Obama Operation.
          This is a waste of taxpayers money.

          the whole issue with Benghazi is the same motivation. They are more concerned with Ambassador Rice than the problems behind the tragedy.

          Just because the GOP would do something like this, they erroneously think that the Dem’s would do the same.
          It is clear, GOP are evil, dirty, cheaters, devious, capable of any act to further their cause.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAY

    Man’s history repeatedly documents nations rising to great power and wealth, and yet they collapse and disappear in a similar time frame. America is no different, and history shows her demise is imminent. Our Founding Fathers warned of the dangers of wealth and gradualism. History teaches that government imposed gun control is the historical sign of a dying nation overrun by its own government.

    About 200 men rose to the challenge of freeing America from big government and its tyranny. These men are known as the Founding Fathers. They were all intelligent, freedom loving and willing to give their Lives, their Fortunes, and their sacred Honor in support of liberty. The framework of government, and the documents these men gave us were intended to LIMIT government power. That our government has escaped its own limitations and is now controlling America’s guns proves that Americans have forgotten our Founding Father’s Intent. Without a precise understanding of the founding documents, you cannot call yourself an American

    Those brilliant men that formed and framed this great nation warned us of the many threats to freedom and liberty. They told us to only elect men of great character. They warned us that “internal invaders” were as dangerous to our liberty as foreign nations. They gave us a Republic, and told us never to descend into the mob rule of Democracy. We were even warned that the very constitution that would form the federal government would be used to empower government on its never-ending road to tyranny. The standing army was declared to be dangerous to liberty, and they warned that government would tax us to pay for the army that would be used to enslave the nation – as all governments have always done.

    The title is self-evident — their warning have all come true. The declining character of our public officials is documented. The acceptance of the principles of democracy have completely displaced the republic we were intended to live in. Taxation has repeated the increases seen in the period just before the American Revolution began.

    Americans today live with “search and seizure” which only occurs in a nation during times of war, and has only taken place in America during the American Revolution, and the Civil War. And worst of all – we have 57 federal agencies carrying guns, most with their own SWAT teams, and police forces acting like the military while the military forces are taking part in police activities.

    This government has duped the people out of their rights, and into government jurisdiction. In order to understand gun control, one must understand how the IRS forces people into “voluntary compliance” with laws that only apply to people that agree and sign the IRS forms, for this is how the BATF has grown in power and control over those who are under their jurisdiction.

    Most gun control laws are empowered by the “commerce clause” of the the U.S. Constitution. Many of our Founding Fathers warned that this power over commerce would be used to destroy the Bill of Rights, and it has.

    “Emergency powers” and “war powers” are exposed for their ability to undermine the intent of America’s founders and the Bill of Rights. And the “war powers” now emerging under “America’s New War” as it’s called will be seen for what they are — TYRANNY!

    Once the greatest of all checks against government power, the JURY has been emasculated by judges and lawyers that are paid by the government to carry out the wishes of government. Judges take an oath to “support and defend the Constitution” and simply do not do so. Judges have been heard saying in court, “Cut the constitutional crap – This is a court of law” – and they are right, the constitution cannot be brought up in most court rooms! The intended and historically exercises power of the jury to protect freedom and liberty from government tyranny is documented.

    Tyranny is said to exist when government operates outside of its legal power.

    The reason government wants to disarm America is because She has been plundered by government pirates of her wealth and rights and is heading into FASCISM just like NAZI Germany. The evidence is undisputable.

    America was founded by freedom loving extremists using “unregistered assault rifles” to overthrow the legal, constitutional government of the day. Brainwashing, clearly documented and explained, has turned most Americans into the “Redcoats” once again.

    The Russians Communists and Nazi Germans perfected the art of brainwashing, and those techniques are easily identified in government actions and court decisions, school teachings, and even Hollywood movies. It’s a done deal – the country is on “spin cycle,” the washing is over!!! The boldest act in brainwashing is to remove a country from its spiritual foundation, so that the spirit of government can become God. We are there. As America lets go of its Christian foundation, it lets go of its freedoms and liberty.

    The 2nd Amendment is more important to America’s freedoms and liberty than the Constitution and Bill of Rights combined. The “right to keep and bear arms” is the reset button for liberty! Without the decisive lethal force over government, Americans will have no rights – only government privileges.

    Make no mistake, the right to keep and bear arms is a private right, and the militia was intended to be the true source of power in America. Our Founding Fathers warned that if the spirit of the militia was lost, so was the country.

    The goal of all totalitarian governments is to disarm its citizens. Roman statesman Marcus Tullius Cicero told the world in 50 BC that “Law stands mute in the midst of arms.”

    Despite the propaganda, guns are really safe in the hands of good and decent Americans, so government must devise schemes to gain access to, and control over, the nations arms. By 1775, the British had established high taxation, centralized control and regulation, and search and seizure. America in the year 2001 finds itself under the same governmental system. To stand up for God-given rights and against government tyranny was what Americans did in 1775. The challenge to REAL AMERICANS is no different today!!!

    http://www.foundingfathers.com/explore.htm

  • http://midcontent RRidge runner

    I always get a laugh out of the psudo Cristian dumbocraps. Christ sure wasn’t a pasnsy azzed whimp, he threw out the money changers in the temple and all other eleitist pukes., just like all socialist/communist democraps, take from tax payers and lie like a used used tampon in the garbage bin. They will keep soaking up tax payers money, and they will keep trying to create a dictatorship. Omoron, the muslim educated marxist keeps defending these pedophile worshipping idoits no matter what they do to Americans. Go read his books, and see 2016, the Perv Pres. is following marxist plan like a rug scrubber he is, no the marxist wants to remove any armment private cirizen own or have legally. Thr socialist/communists dems and the muslim marxist sure will not disarm gangs and other minority pervs, damn forgot that is democrap biggest voting blocks. Look at stats in every state that didn’t require a photo ID. In several counties there was over a 150+% voter turn out. As for me being a Christain, I sure am, and if Abram and Sarah had trusted God, and not came up with their own breeding program. If Abram would have listen to God and followed his instructions, disposed of Haggar and her spawn, there wouldn’t be a bunch of sick perverts, in the world. The spawn was nicknames” the wild ass”., and what is theanimal that represents the demorat party? After graduation college, with the college BS from professors about muslims being peace ful and just need under standing all of my sons & daughters along with their cousin, say muslims can not be trusted and will turn on you and American values like poisous snake. Only good one is, one with several ventalation holes, and is proving food for the starving dogs. Women are no better than their pervert (husband) children are just something to use and abuse at their whim..

  • http://personalliberty sadiemoner

    Just like there was Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini there will always be dictators hungry for world power this power hunger will never go away and now it is happening in the US, but some cannot see it just like they couldnt in Nazi Germany read what happened in history it always repeats itself, read the book Cowards by Glen Beck to get a better understanding of what is going on in the US today. England broke away to come to the US and the same thing ends up happening here.

  • http://midcontent RRidge runner

    Dispose of a pedophile worshipping rug srubbing perv and save another goat and several dogs! Like Prince Harry is doing!

    • ibcamn

      that was awsome runner!

  • bob570

    That’s funny, when I read Machiavelli he talked about a Republican form of government, and a court system to protect the individual’s rights. How does that compare with what Obama believes.

  • Jimbo

    Let’s see… He bombed Libya, so the radical Islamists and terrorists could take over. Then he encouraged riots in Egypt which forced an adminstration favorable to America out. He’s telegraphed our departure from Iraq and Afghanistan so the radical Islamists and terorists know they can just wait us out. And lately, he’s promoting Al Quaeda’s takeover of Syria.

    Meanwhile he is forcing Cristians, particularly Catholic Christians to violate their consciences and teachings by paying for abortion coverage.

    Yep, I’d say he is a closet Muslim, bent on destroying America. He’ll make sure we’re all disarmed, so that when the Muslim extremists start murdering us en masse, we will be powerless to stop them.

  • chuckb

    nick , you better do a little more research on fast and furious, the documents holder refused to hand over were not national security matters, these are in federal court waiting for disposition. barry lied as usual to defend holder and both these people thrive on lies, so fast and furious is still alive and well, just waiting for the courts to do their job, turning these documents over to a congressional investigative committee is not like showing them to the media. most of the judicial system is very liberal so they will do their part in the cover up if possible. barry and holder are between a lie and a lot of trouble if and when the truth comes out and the republicans have the guts to back it up.

    benghazi, they are not concerned with susan rice, they are concerned about a president and his secretary of state covering up the deaths of four people in the benghazi embassy. this is barry as usual he lied to the country and so did hillary, both professional low life liars. the only bad part if barry is impeached, the country would have at it’s head a man who is no more qualified to be president than barry is. dumb and dumber.
    this of course makes no difference to the average bolshevik, their mentality doesn’t rely on actualities.

    • Aware

      chuckb, covering up the deaths of four people in the benghazi embassy. What cover-up? The GOP pared down the budget for our embassies around the world, so they could finance Mitt’s losing run for president. Apparently, you know nothing about cover-ups. Remember WMD’s? I do, do you?

      • Jeff

        You’ll have to spell it out for chuckie. He thinks WMDs means “wet my drawers.”

  • jim

    How can these Executive Orders be dead in the water? When did any executive order get vetoed by Congress? They can challenge it having the Supreme Court look into it…but we already got his word about the issue.

    …so, once again, Bill Maher has proven he has no business talking about politics or legal issues on prime-time TV! After all is said….he’s still just a comedian with a doctorate in being a radical liberal democrat lap dog!!!

    The author of this article doesn’t know the truth about this issue either. But It sure makes for interesting reading!

  • Spoon

    OM Goodness! Someone finally with the cajones to speak the TRUTH. Why else has anything that may even remotely be considered as “prejudicial” towards the barbaric peoples of izlam be removed by order of the office of the HMFWAIC?

  • ron wilson

    It’s sad that no one in conservative media has had the guts to bring up a freudian slip O’bama made in an interview with George Stephanopolis proir to Obama’s first emaculation. He made a statement, according to his Muslim beliefs and was quickly corrected by Stephonopolis, you mean your Christian beliefs. I saw this on that particular interview. That statement has never been, as far as I know , ever been, discussed by any one else and was probably edited quickly. O’bama’s slip was one of the few times he has told the truth prior to and including his first four years as president. So it stands to reason he would support any Muslim actions, here and around the world. His anti Israel talk and actions, speak for themselves. God will protect Israel. That’s His land and His chosen people.But woe to the nations that come against them and through this regime, we have emboldened and militarially and financially supported many of those nations.May God have mercy on America.

    • Jeff

      Was it anti-Israel for half the Israeli public to vote against Netanyahu? It’s absurd to label as anti-Israel everyone who has a difference of opinion with Netanyahu over settlements.

  • Conservative Mark

    None of the libtard lame stream media reported how Obama got his ass handed to him in Federal Court over his recess appointments yesterday.

    Pretty soon bullets are going to start to fly in this country and when they stop, I hope we have several million less liberals standing and can return this country to that which our forefathers envisioned it.

    • Jeff

      Bob:

      Is it just me or is this kind of call to violence a bit over the top? I know I’m the worst person in the world because I disagree with the skinheads, militia people, and insurrectionists here who want to physically remove Obama from the White House, but really? Calls for murder and assassination? I know, I’ve called some of your nuttier bloggers nutty. But this is beyond belief.

    • http://centurylink Werner

      Best comment I’ve read on here yet.

  • DockyWocky

    It wouldn’t surprise me if the Izzies took out our flaming islamist in the future as a move to enhance their security.

  • ibcamn

    so is all this why Obama and Clinton(both)and the rest of his henchmen NOT doing a dam thing for the wife of the christian pasture that’s being held in iran?the US marine held in Mexico,Hilary helped to get freed,her hubby went to N. Korea to get liberal press guys out of their jail!!an out rite war on Christian faith by Obama??they have ignored her plee’s for help from the gov’t and they just keep on going after US citizens and no one on the left give a sheet!!HOW CAN PEOPLE STILL BE SO DAM BLIND!!

    • Bob666

      ibcamn,
      I have read many of your post and have to say that your information borders on the bazar, an out rite war on Christian faith by Obama”, I don’t think so.

    • http://www.facebook.com/sirwilliambolton William Wiley Bolton

      Hey, they are holding American heroes like 1st Lt Michael Behenna in prison for killing a terrorist that had just killed two of our Troops. Kill a terrorist and you may go to prison in the new USA!

  • AWKingsley

    The U.S. needs to get out of the Middle East. Israel is the most well-defended country in the world. In this country states are legislating against Sharia Law, which in large part solves our problem. With regard to education, we need to support candidates who are for State’s Rights and Constitutional Government to regain control of the purse strings and defund everything we do not want, including prayer rooms for Muslims in public schools and classes on Islam. All immorality can be defunded when voters support State’s Rights and regain the power we gave up to the Federal Government. Republican and Libertarian voters need to focus on the goal of State’s Rights and stop with so much endless focus on minutiae. We must focus on what actually solves the problems – State’s Rights – instead of constantly being bogged down in endless debate over smaller issues.

  • JCfromDC

    All I can say is that, if 57% of Americans think this country is on”the wrong track”, then why did 51% vote FOR him?

    • http://www.facebook.com/sirwilliambolton William Wiley Bolton

      The fact is that most election office workers are black and only some of them are honest. He did not win the election. It was voter fraud that elected him. A fraud from the beginning. He is not even a citizen. First a British subject, born in a British Protectorate that later became Kenya, then an Indonesian by adoption, but never an American citizen, just another illegal alien.

      • Bob666

        Yo WWB,
        “The fact is that most election office workers are black and only some of them are honest. He did not win the election. It was voter fraud that elected him. A fraud from the beginning”.

        Really? Seriously?

        Very, Very Sad.

        • http://www.facebook.com/sirwilliambolton William Wiley Bolton

          Yes, seriously, why did the numbers not match the registered voters in swing states? The irregularities are too many to list and Obama isn’t eligible top even run for President. He is an illegal alien and was born in British Protectorate in Africa before it became Kenya. The Democrat Party is a criminal gang.

          • Jeff

            World Wide Buffoon:

            Blah, Blah, Blah. Utter garbage. All the swing states were controlled by Republicans. How did the Democrats “steal” Ohio, Virginia, Forida, Wisconsin, etc.?

          • http://www.facebook.com/sirwilliambolton William Wiley Bolton

            You dimwits are very good at hiding and stealing and criminal behavior, but the time is approaching when you will want a place to hide and there will be none.

          • Bob666

            very good at hiding and stealing and criminal behavior?

          • http://www.facebook.com/sirwilliambolton William Wiley Bolton

            You damn sure don’t work for a living. No liberal does.

          • Bob666

            Yo Willie Wile e Coyote,

            “You damn sure don’t work for a living. No liberal does”

            To quote Ronald Regan, “there you go agan”

            First, I’m a libertarian and have been for over twenty-five years.

            Finally, sold a very successful business to a fortune 500 corporation after 45 years and now I consult to them ten to fifteen hours a week. Never have recieved a check for uncle Sam (except a tax refund one year) and I do need to sign up for Social Security, but have not so yet.

            Most who know me might believe that I worked pretty hard, but it is hard to evaluate ones self objectivly. By the way, I have a lot of friends who most might consider to be liberal and all of them are employed and most are pretty hard working people-every bit as hard working as my very conservative friends.

            Has that anvil fallen on you yet?

          • William Bolton

            You can make up all you like but you cannot prove lies.

          • Bob666

            Yo Willie Wile e Coyote’

            “You can make up all you like but you cannot prove lies.” ???????????????????

            What am I making up? What Lies am I tring to prove?

            The fact that you have painted yourself into a corner?

            The fact that you stereo-type people?

            The fact that your perception of people has the accuracy of a scud missle?

            Or could it be possible that to many Acme products have landed on your head?

            Beep-Beep!

          • Bob666

            Wiley,
            you can take the aluminum foil off of you head now.

          • Jeff

            At least we now know who Bobby Jindal was addressing when he said Republicans “have to stop being the stupid party.”

          • Bob666

            Yo Jeff,
            When I deal with this guy, I visualize Wile E. Coyote with aluminum foil on his head and you know there is going to be an Acme Anvil coming up soon followed by a mushroom cloud.

            you know it’s gona happen.

      • Jeff

        I think if you say that over and over enough times it will become true. Let’s see, if a credible, intelligent person said it a million times, it might mean something. That means you’ll have to say it a billion more times before anyone will pay attention. That should keep you busy for a while, you racist moron.

  • spyderdalton

    When guns are banned only criminals and government will have guns and there is no difference between the two…

    • http://www.facebook.com/sirwilliambolton William Wiley Bolton

      WRONG! Criminals have more compassion than government types.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sirwilliambolton William Wiley Bolton

    Unlike Obama, many liberal creeps are traitors. Obama is not a citizen and is just another enemy. Time to clean out the trash.

  • Charlie R

    So lets see …. Its only taken 4 years for some to figure this president out.

    Where were these folks when Obama declared he wanted to “fundamentally change America”

    Did they all miss his quote…. “America is no longer a Christian nation”.
    How about Obamas disdain for Christianity … did they all miss that too?

    And, his saying: “The muslim brotherhood being elected in Egypt was a “democratic event” and thus implying they were an ”acceptable” government. Did that not give a clue as to his agenda supporting the muslim philosophy. Lets not mention Obamas disregard for attending Congressional prayer day events.

    Polls indicate that 57% of Americans are saying “we are on the wrong track”, yet American’s still re-elected this closet muslim that is socially and financially destroying America.

    Where are the folks when Obama mandates regulations that should be legislated by Congress? Does he not disdain and disregard the Constitution?

    It Is this “New Breed” of American voter that is grossly uninformed and thus enables this pariah and his democrat minions?

  • charles

    I feel the time for talk is over.This administration can ban all the weapons they want but its to late because there are an awfull lot of weapons out there already. And banning them doesent mean we will allow them to confiscate one single weapon. I swore an oath many years ago to protect and uphold the constitution of the United States of America, so just because some radical muslem happened to fool enough of the most gullable people in this country to elect him president to spite all of the evidence pointing to the many reasons why that was a foolish and devistateing mistake I will continue to honor my commitment to my country and my God.All I can say is I guess that makes me one of those bible hugging gun totine pains in the ass this govt. would like to see just go away, well guess what Iam not going away. SEMPER-FI

    • http://www.facebook.com/sirwilliambolton William Wiley Bolton

      AMEN Brother, pass the ammunition.

    • http://centurylink Werner

      Charles, Thanks for your service and your patriotic comments. It makes me half sick to read the comments by some of these blood sucking lazy, check drawing ass sitting morons. If they would put half as much energy into a job, as they do into protecting our towel headed “leader”, the treasury would be over flowing with funds and we could take care of the old, the disabled, the military and any of a number of legitimate needy instead of supporting the dead beats, illegals and America haters.

  • http://Hill Benson

    What Obama/Osama/ is trying to do is: to trick the American People,as he is being doing from the beginning. “,I tried to take the Guns away from the American people but the Congress won’t listen to me.I don’t care about Second amendment. My image is most important then anything else.

  • http://madhatter15.wordpress.com madhatter15

    Eric Holder , as usual, is wrong, Obama did not act under legal authority when he banned our guns, he doesnt’ have the authority to do that, he doesnt’ have the authority to take a poop let alone change the constitution. Here is a man who is not legally in office, he knows it, we know it, yet he is getting away with it, so proud of all the executive orders he has passed, all null and void , this jerk is never going ot see a pension if I have ot march naked through the streets with a sign and say he is not eligible ot get a dime from any of us, all the millions he has made and stolen from us should be enough to pay his legal fees and his fines, both will be high. Eric Holder, the gun runner should keep hsi mouth shut and not draw attention to his criminal past right now, a border guard is dead because of him and hundreds of Mexicans. This is our constitution, it seems to bother Obama that we even have one, he tries to change it every chance he gets, the UN , his lowlife side kicks wanted to get rid of guns for years , they want to disarm the world, same wiht the Chinese, they even wrote a lettere to our Government asking them ot disarm us, they asked this favor of them the same day their murder of a baby still in the womb of a woman who owed them money for a fine because she had one more baby, they ripped this baby out of her womb and left it dead next to the mother on the bed so the husband would see it when he walked in from work. This is what they do and they call us violent. They immediately apologized for the picture and said the guards got a little too enthusiastic, how Obama even did any business at all with them is appalling. This gun right tis in our constitution, it is our right to bear arms, Obama took that away form us on the say so of some old fleabag senator who admitted she herself had a gun, and our Senate sat through this without so much as a whimper, I can’t wait to vote, none of them will be on my ballot, everyone should get ready to impeach them all and be done with it, if they did their job in the private sector the way they do it in pulblic office they would be fired, why should it be different here. They are
    cowards.

  • Thinking About

    I never saw this president walking and holding hands with the prince. Do you think when bin Laden was looking down the gun barrel which took his life thought Obama is pushing islam? Do you think those hiding from the drone ever thought the drone might be coming? If you do then you have a problem.

    • Jeff

      Thinking can be hazardous to your health in Cowboy Country. Certainly, it’s unpopular.

  • mary

    This entire post is borderline insane. It is so far over the cliff of normal discourse I can’t believe that these people occupy the same country as I do. Just because Obama does not look at the Islamic world with the same spirit of extermination that Col. Chivington (of Sand Creek Massacre fame) did of Colorado’s native population in the 19th century does not make him in any sense of the word a Muslim or encouraging of Islamic takeover of the US. This is the kind of rampant talk and fear mongering that has made part of the country violent in their attitude towards our own government. It’s not healthy and it is not REAL. Personal liberty still has to co-exist with society, and hating part of the society will not make you free.

  • Jim

    Obama has no right to try and take the guns from the people of the U.S. Look for a answer like time for impeachment, so simple. Is he for the U.S. or against us ????

    • Jeff

      “Simple” is generally in the mind of the beholder.

  • Financially Insecure John

    Quinnipiac: Strong Support for Gun Checks

    As the National Rifle Association steels its resolve against universal background checks at gun shows, a new poll shows nearly unanimous support for them among registered voters in three states.

    But the Quinnipiac University survey respondents also backed one idea that the NRA supports: armed guards in schools.

    More than 90 percent of registered voters surveyed Jan. 4-27 in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Virginia — including those in households where there is a gun — support background checks, the survey found.

    The Quinnipiac results come as NRA President David Keene attacked the gun-show checks, saying that they would place an extremely high burden on individual gun sellers and would not deter criminals.

  • Jackofalltrades

    There are more level-headed common sense people out there than others, this includes in government and the military. There are always two sides to every coin, or rather ideologies. Right is right and wrong is wrong, there is no in between.

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