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Gun Rights Conference Wraps Up In St. Louis

September 29, 2009 by  

Gun rights conference wraps up in St. Louis Despite the Obama administration’s anti-Second Amendment efforts, gun rights leaders from across the country gathered in St. Louis, Missouri, last weekend to network, exchange strategies and hear from experts on major issues relating to firearms litigation and politics.

The 24th Annual Gun Rights Policy Conference was hosted by the Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) and Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA). Among the speakers were CCRKBA chairman Alan Gottlieb, SAF President Joseph Tartaro as well as attorney Alan Gura, winner of the landmark Second Amendment Heller case.

On the agenda this year were panel discussions on the UN threat to gun rights, federal and state legislative updates, media bias, self-defense and right-to-carry, open carry, guns and the 10th Amendment as well as the campus concealed carry issue.

According to Daniel White, writing for Examiner.com, ammunition control was also in the spotlight as a new threat posed by the gun control movement.

"These people realize that the most effective way to kill off a species is to cut off its food source, and ammunition is food for guns," White wrote in his column.

Under particular scrutiny came California’s bill AB 962 that would require retailers to keep ammunition where customers cannot access it, check buyers’ IDs, record names and addresses and to take thumbprints, according to the news source.

Next year’s conference is scheduled to be held in San Francisco.
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  • David

    That’s fine…many of us have enough ammo and reload materials to last through this storm.

    • Norm

      David

      When you walk through a storm
      Hold your head up high
      And don’t be afraid of the dark
      At the end of a storm is a golden sky
      And the sweet silver song of a lark.

      Maybe the new healthcare system will treat your paronoia.

      Walk on through the wind
      Walk on through the rain
      Tho’ your dreams
      Be tossed and blown.
      Walk on..
      Walk on..
      With hope in your heart
      And you’ll never walk alone

      • Dave

        It’s only paranoia when they’re not really after you.

        • David

          That’s right Norm. An armed man is a citizen an unarmed man is a subject.

          • Thurman Marcum

            David,

            I am a liberal democrat.I am a supporter of gun rights.There are liberals out there that are for the second amendment.I also own two guns.Both are colts.

          • David

            Thurman, that’s fine and good to hear. Norm is way out there…paranoid schizophrenia

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Very well said. I dont own a gun, and until I need one I probably wont, but I fully support anyones right to have, hold, and carry a firearm. When it comes to where its against the law to have a gun, everyone knows that only the criminals will have them. Everywhere where they have practiced this sort of gun control, crime has escalated out of control. I believe if Im not mistaken, Austrailia went into the foray of making having guns illegal, and when they did crime ran rampant and went up like 600 percent. If they ever illegalized guns in the United States, crime would rise 1000 percent, as the criminals would be licking their chops, because 90 percent of them own their guns illegally anyhow. The solution, is to have much much stricter penalties for those using a hand gun in the commission of a crime, or for possessing a hand gun illegally. Problem is, the law enforcement has made it a money game like everything else, and when they catch these common ass criminals with guns, and the guy doesnt have a house, doesnt have a job, they slap him on the hand and release him because theyve got nothing to get from him. Now if you or I or any working man with a job, a house, and a family commited a crime with a gun, the system would stick it to us and get all they could from us. But a low life criminal with no money, no job, no house, they walk time and time again. That is the problem, not people legally carrying a weapon. I wish someone would have had a gun at Virginia Tech or Columbine High School. Perhaps many lives would have been saved.

          • John

            Norm, its talk like that that gives gun owners a bad name.

    • eyeswideopen

      David, the reason there is a shortage, is that the major manufacturers of ammo are using equipment from WWII. That combined with the police forces having more new organizations than they previously had, is driving up the shortage. Of course the panic and fear that the rt has perpetrated against the gun owners, causing a purchasing rush, is also causing the delay. The gun manuf. are gearing up with new equipment asap. Don’t worry, it would take years for the gun laws to be changed. They were written to prevent an easy repeal.

      • David

        Are you kidding me? You just read the liberals are even stocking up above. You had better too….Florida will probably be given to cuba in some kind of peace offering. I was wondering what happened to you…

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        No shortage here where I live, but it seems to be happening in liberal states where they want to put the squeeze on gun owners and try to outlaw them. Not here. In Indiana we got ammo, come on over. This state for one will not be taken over by the left wing baby killing gay promoting terrorist approving pacifist appeasing left.

  • Stan Heitbrink

    Ammunition has been scarce since last fall as well as price has been
    doubled.

    This indicated intelligent people are stocking up in fear of their
    government, which the way is the reason our fore founders put in the
    Second Amendment in the first place.

    Thank you

  • Norm

    There are several types of schizophrenia, and the specific types are diagnosed based upon symptoms. The most common type is paranoid schizophrenia, which causes a person to have fearful thoughts and hear threatening voices.

    • David

      Norm, just lay down, roll over and have them tickle your belly. We are aware of what seems to be happening. That’s why people are stocking up. I believe it is you that is nuts. Besides why should the gov fear all these newly armed people….they only plan to protect themselves in case of emergency and some of us actually enjoy target practice, hunting, etc…

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The problem with Norm is, he is curled up in the fetal position crying for his mommy to change his peed pants, because he the typical left wing liberal pacifist appeaser, that thinks we should all sit around the fire and sing kumbaya all day, and that the bad guys wont bother us. Good luck with that.

    • John

      Which one were you diagnosed with?

      • DaveH

        Norm is paranoid sycophantia.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      The biggest form is curling up and being a pacifist appeaser. Those guys are dangerous even to themselves.

  • tom

    I was at this conference as was maybe 1700 others. It was my 3rd GRPC and they all have been great. My question is where were the other 30 million gun owners? There is planning for a gun owners march on washington DC next year on april 19. How many will show? Would more show, if the order went out ” report with full field pack and all the ammo you can carry” I wonder??

    • Norm

      tom
      I’m a gun owner but I’m not insane.
      I heard people who are obsessed with firearms have sexual disfunctions.

      • Mike

        Norm, I’ll bet that you have never owned a gun and never fired a gun. You can pretend to be a gun owner, but when you say the retarded things you say everyone can see through your lie.

        • David

          If he does own one, I’ll bet it is tiny winy…symbolism

          • JeffH

            he may have his spray gun confused with a real gun.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          I dont think Norm would even own a baretta. He has shown his true colors on other posts, obviously a pacifist appeaser, and they dont own guns. They depend on the government to take care of every little thing for them. Then they are the first to cry help when the enemy comes smacking them around, while they spent years protecting the enemy and giving them special rights that even our own citzens dont get.

          • JeffH

            People like Norm would become a human shield in any firefight because they think cheap talk can stop the bullets from flying.

      • cr747

        Norm sounds to me like you are beyond insane, maybe in a rubber walled room? If not that’s where you belong. Some of the things you are saying are things my 2 year old grand son says. Get well and quit pounding your head off those rubber walls so much,and maybe by the time you are 5 years old, you will understand a little more about what you are talking about.

        • JeffH

          Might be a chance that the walls aren’t rubber or padded…

      • JeffH

        Norm, too the contrary, guns stimulate the sexual functions of their owners. You might be confused by you own “dysfunctions”.

      • Norm

        Wow!
        you boys do have problems. Truth is I don’t own a handgun, but I do own 2 rifles and a 12 gage double shotgun. My rifles are a 22 pump and a semi 30 cal. I spent a lot of time as a kid plinking and small game hunting and I’m a pretty fair shot.

        I’m also an Air Force vet., although they don’t do too much with small arms there. How about you great Americans. How many of you actually were in the military?
        Jeffh: guns stimulate the sexual functions of their owners? I kind of rely on women for that.
        In New England, where I come from, some of the BS you clowns are spewing is considered traitorous.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          In New England, also come dangerous anti American views as those spoken and exhibited by one Ted Kennedy and one John Kerry, you know, John Kerry, the guy that shot himself in the ass to get a purple heart. And Ted Kennedy, the one who drives drunk and drowns a woman and gets nothing but probation. New England area is the highest taxed in the country, New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and all you losers keep voting these guys in. So dont cite New England like its something of a good example that we should all follow. Me, I love America, and Im staying as far away from the New England liberal hot bed as I can. The Muslims like it up there though.

          • JeffH

            YEA! I see no response. You must have hit a sore spot. He probably joined the Air Force Reserve to avoid the draft. I might add, there isn’t anything wrong with serving your country in any branch of the service, active or reserve. I went for my pre-induction physical in Oakland, CA. on June 2, 1969 but was never called back, unlike a lot of friends.

          • eyeswideopen

            Beber, well the people there vote in the tax rate, so they must be happy with it. No, this time you can’t blame the Fed’s for a tax rate. So now because you don’t like someone you are tagging a whole state as a liberal hotbed? I really think you don’t have any idea what being patriotic is about. I will give you part of a quote, from one of our most revered patriots:”PEOPLE TO PLACE THEIR IDENTITY AS AMERICANS ABOVE THEIR IDENTITIES AS MEMBERS OF A STATE, CITY OR REGION, AND FOCUS THEIR EFFORTS AND AFFECTION ON THE COUNTRY ABOVE ALL OTHER LOCAL INTERESTS. LOOK BEYOND ANY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM IN RELIGION, MANNERS, HABITS AND POLITICAL PRINCIPLES AND PLACE THEIR INDEPENDENCE AND LIBERTY ABOVE ALL ELSE”. That sir is a true patriot, not some imitation such as yourself. I would also bet you don’t know who said that phase.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            To eyeswideshut, I dont really think the people have been voting in Ted Kennedy for all those years. I fully do believe that with the Kennedy’s being so embedded in Massachusetts for so many years, that they had things fixed so that Ted could be the Senator from Massachusetts as long as he wanted. As I have been up there and talked with many a person, and not one of them would own up to voting for him, and they all told me he was not liked at all. So how did he stay the senator so long? Can you say MOB boys and girls. Yeah, its kind of like that. Truth hurts doesnt it eyes?

          • roblew

            You are so correct when describing the New England area..in general!
            They even go so far as to control the Democrats (LIberal) so that only a Democratic Governor can appoint a replacement in Congress, they are Afraid to let the people decide…I meet some very wonderful Boston residence when I work their for 6 months in 1960! They could not have been nicer! So not all are bad folks…many feel like we do, but the Democratic hold to Power keeps the Citizens from being able to vote & choose! Maybe, this next elections, enough of these fine Citizens will see the ‘handwritting on the wall’. Kennedy is Dead…now that was the Greatest News of this new Century!!! :o)

          • eyeswideopen

            Jeff, you have the nerve to critize someone else, when you were rejected ? Oh Boy, you are really something else.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Sometimes, I think it would be best to just follow the old saying, “Shoot ‘em all, and let God sort ‘em out.

          • JeffH

            Why waste the ammo?

          • eyeswideopen

            Beber, you have fallen for the oldest marketing trick in the book. The gun makers have had a plan for three years, to increase sales of guns and ammo.The lobbyists for the Republican party started the rumor that Obama was going to take away your guns, to promote the badly needed sales. Prior to that you gun toting rt wingers were not spending enough money. It was actually brilliant, as you all fell for it hook line and sinker. What a bunch of yahoo’s !!! Jeff, you are smart enough to check the previous sales and will realize that you have been had.

          • David

            Eyes, whoa…I think you have been rubbing up against Norm or something. That statement is a bit out there even for you.

          • roblew

            Yeah…. Why don’t we add ‘eyes/brain’wide shut to you list… He has made a terrilble fool of himself and attacked most all of us True American Patriots< :o)

            He needs some serious help… so We All Need to say A Prayer for him tonight…before we loose that 'Right' too !

        • JeffH

          I don’t even like your New England Clam Chowdha!

        • JeffH

          I guess it is called New England because you all prefer to worship and bow to a king or queen. Can you let me know what the capitol of New England is?

        • DaveH

          Yeah, traitorous, and hateful, and racist. baa a a a, baa a a a.

          • DaveH

            Sorry Norm, but the real traitors are the ones who are supporting Obama in his trashing of the Constitution.

          • eyeswideopen

            Once again, Dave, give us an example of the Constitution being trashed. Or an impeachable offense that all of you claim he has committed. (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT), comes from all of your mouths and you haven’t in 2 months been able to come up with one example of your rhetoric.
            You are just a band of mad little boys who just can’t stand the fact that this man achieved what you never will. He is the most powerful man in the world, and the only sad thing is that he has to protect your rights along with the rest of the hate mongers. The sign of a great man is that they rise above the sewage and serve the majority who are deserving. Your statements are treasonous as the defination of treason is: violation of allegiance towards ones sovereign or country.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Hey Dave, where do you suppose this “eyes” guy is from, Iran or Syria?
            Aint no America loving American going to talk like he does, so he has to be some hateful muslim, probably illegally in this country from Iran, Syria, Somalia or some hotbed like that, but not America.

          • Al

            To Eyes, the Constitution does not mention allegiance to any sovereign, that was Adolph Hitler. Treason: Article III, SECTION 3 United States Constitution, Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies,giving them Aid and Comfort. When Obama goes to our enemies apologizing, bowing to foreign kings, and generally making an ass of himself, that is giving them Aid and Comfort. Impeachable offense under the Constitution. Or he’s just too stupid to know what to do. And you think we should pledge our allegiance to this clown?

          • eyeswideopen

            Al, you are new here, so you probably haven’t read the statement ” lets get a civil war started and remove Obama from office. That is treason. Inciting a civil war is against the Constitution. So, in your mind. showing respect and honoring another countries customs is making an ass of yourself? When they come here, they shake our hands even if it is something they don’t do in their own country. But I forgot you don’t know what respect is. You do however fit right in with this radical, redneck group, who are so hypocritical that they can’t even admit that the repuns voted for gun conrol in 1999.

          • cr747

            Eyeswideopen, you need to open your eyes and get into the books before you open your mouth, because you for sure don’t know what you are talking about. This absent minded president would have been one of the first ones out if he had ever servered in any of the fighting that’s going on and especially the Vieteman war. He’s not Commander and Chief material that’s for sure. The main reason he needs to be impeached and the most important one is that he is not an AMERICAN!!!!!

        • cr747

          I bet your double shotgun are 2 single shot shotguns tied side by side.
          How about a fighter pilot in Vietnam, “the war that never recognized the vets that came home with nothing but proud to see their family and still be alive”. I fly a POW-MIA flag 24-7 at my home, and replace it with a new one every 90-120 days of flying it. Am proud to be an American, and still flying a 747 today.
          Give the Vietnam veterans a prayer each night, and when you see one on the street wearing something that say’s Nam vet shake his hand for what he had to go through. No one deserved what these guys had to go through, and never got recognized by their country

          • Al

            cr747, Thanks for your service and God bless you. I served two tours in Vietnam on Northern SAR station and we brought out 11 pilots that, thank God, those commies didn’t get. Got to meet one of them a few years ago.

          • cr747

            Al just want to say God bless you. I know some of those that where pulled to safety, and you did a great service for our country. You deserve far better treatment than you received, but only a vet can assure you that it was pure HELL for you and all your unit. Your rewards are laid up for you to receive when we meet our true Commander and Chief, JESUS CHRIST. Thanks for your service as a true American Hero.

    • American Citizen

      A lot of people cannot afford or are physically able to attend those marches and conferences. For many, it takes every penny they earn to make it. For others, we’re there in spirit.

    • Wayne Keel

      West Texas here. The NRA, Vietnam Veterans, and all God fearing people in America need to march on DC soon, or there will be nothing left. These commies are taking this country to hell in a hand basket. Obama is not the black man we envisioned, he is Satan in the flesh and needs to be impeached NOW!!!! They should all go to jail or worse. Wake up America, time is on their side! I mentioned Vietnam veterans, because we have an unsettled issue from that war. It seems that the people on the left are the same scum that spit in our faces and called us ‘baby killers’ coming home from Nam. We never came ‘home’ and the anger has never went away. Now we can rid America of commies once and for all and finally come home with our heads held high. If America refuses to answer the call, look for TEXAS to leave the Union. WE WILL NOT LIVE UNDER COMMUNISM. Do it this year!

      • John

        I agree they’re in the wrong country to be promoting their socialist / Communist views!

        I live in California and I’m not proud of what’s happened here nor the creeps from this state that are now in DC.

        WE WILL NOT SUCCUMB TO COMMUNISM!

        • Rod

          You guys in California Need to vote Palosi and the rest of those lefties out of Congress in 2010.

          • JeffH

            Feinstein is the head witch from California. Boxer and Pelosi pale in comparison.

          • DaveH

            It’s not going to happen Rod. San Francisco is the hotbed of wing nuts.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            California. What can you say. Its like living in a bowl of granola, what isnt fruits and nuts is flakes.

      • eyeswideopen

        Wayne, give an example of an impeachable offense, or quit letting your mouth over run your arse.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Being a democrat is enough for me.

          • roblew

            You want an impeachable offense? What about Not being an American Citizen? What about all those Czars that are serving un-constitutionaly? What about forcing bills down Congress neck when no one has read them? What about his treasonist acts when downing America on foreign trips? What about him and his cronies from Chicago rigging the votes, with the help of ‘ACORN’…Happened all over America…So Who really won this past election & why has not anyone in Congress taken these cases to the United States Supreme Court & challenged Him?
            There is a case now pending in Judge Carters, Federal Court in California responding to Obama not producing a Birth Certificate, not college records to see if he was registered as a Foreign Aid Student?
            If these are all Legal…why Not let All American Citizens see these documents once & for all & settle this serious question? Very simple, if HE does not have anything to hide! What don’t WE the Voters Know??

          • eyeswideopen

            You are a redneck.

          • eyeswideopen

            Roblew, not one thing you mentioned works. You think you are smarter than the lawyers in Congress?? If they find something to charge him with they would have done it already. Bills he passed, all are Constitutional, Trips he made, he spoke the truth, we are bullies, Birth cert. has produced one, and your guys couldn’t dispute it, don’t you think that someone smarter than you would have done something by now? You are a sad little redneck who can’t stand the fact that a smart black man is leading this country.

      • Get it right.

        Go Texas, Go, for goodness sakes, go, leave the rest of us who love this country in peace. You are the reason, our fore fathers wanted us to be armed. It was to protect people like me from the nuts like you.

  • http://grandpaschober.com Frank

    I am Catholic and once had a priest who had been a missionary in a country that went communist. He said that the first thing the leaders do is disarm it’s citizens. Soldiers took the bible off the altar as he was celebrating mass and told him that he had no permission to read the bible. Our USA is being driven into Communism like on a rocket by the current government administration. Even endocranating our kindergarden children to praise and worship him. We are slaves to a Communist leader. God bless America.

    • John

      Frank
      Keep in mind that the most valuable slaves are the ones who willingly forge their own leg irons.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      We will never be drove to communism as long as our people hold on to their guns, and the American spirit is strong, and we would fight and resist this to the governments detriment, and they will not overcome the armed populace.

    • JeffH

      …remember that it is said in the bible, an “eye for an eye” and “murder is a sin”, but the bible does not say that “killing is a sin”.

      • John

        Amen Brother!

      • eyeswideopen

        Jeff, quoting the Bible? Well, bubba, the 10 Commandments does say Thou shall not kill. Oh, that’s right you rt wingers only chose certain rules, laws and ethics that you want to obey and to hell with the rest of them. PSEUDO CHRISTIANS every single one of you. One of you will go down in history, but it won’t be for anything good. The shame will haunt your families for years.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          No pal, there is such a thing as righteous anger, like when Jesus tipped over the money changers tables and kicked them out of the table. Also, if one has to kill to preserves ones life, I am totally confident that God would approve of that. In fact, in the biblical days, he sent Gideon and David and others to war, and told them to kill every man, woman and child of their opponents. Remember Solomon, the wisest and richest man in the world? God told him also to do this, and Solomon disobeyed, and kept some of the women for his wives and allowed them to keep their idols, and that is where all these false religions other than Christianity spawned from, thus the reason God told him to kill them all. But man is stupid, and always will be, because he thinks he knows it all and what to do. Like it says, there is a way to a man that seems right, and it is the way of death. So get over your hatred of Christians and America. The only reason America is still around today is because of the amount of Christians in it, and as our own government forces take that away and push it aside more and more, the farther down the tubes we go, and the closer it comes to the fall of this great country. Thank the democrats and their ungodly behavior for this, as they seek to kill babies and kick God out of everything. They are an immoral lot. But rest assured you little wanker, Jesus will come again, and you and I alike will look Him in the eye and give an account of ourselves. Im ready, are you?

          • eyeswideopen

            Bebe, you are wrong, this country survives because John Adams made sure we are a country of laws and not men. It is to protect us from you and your kind from hijacking this country and trying to run it like a church. The Constitution protects us from you. Contitutional Republic functioning as a liberal democracy. Study and learn.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            To eyes, and we have run it like you want to, and look where we are at. Quite the mess, eh? If it had been run like God intended, where He is put first, well my friend, I really have to inform you, we would have total peace and total prosperity for all, and all would be good for everyone from the top to the bottom, as it is in my church. God has charged us with electing Godly men to these government posts, and we dont do it, and even allow those in power to kick God out. And then there are guys like you that are all for it, then you wonder why things are as they are. You need to read up and get educated pal, not me. I know right from wrong, and the way it is supposed to be, versus the way it is. Man’s ways have placed us in the mess we are in, not from following God’s ways that you seem to be so afraid of. Why do you reject the One that wants the best for you? I dont understand your fear of goodness.

        • roblew

          ‘Eyes’….You are so blind with being ‘Stupid’! Our great Nation was founded on basic Christian beliefs and regardless of what the ‘Liberal’ Democrats try to make us believe…WE ARE A CHRISTIAN NATION!…. Our Laws where based on the TEN COMMANDMENTS ! If you have ever read Our Lords Good Book… ‘The BIBLE’ you would know what is in the Ten Commandments… But from what you have said in your ‘blogs’, which are a sign of your lack of education/knowledge/Our History…You may Eyes but are still blind to the ‘Truth’. Our Great Nation must be saved from the likes of ‘Liberals’ like You…. We are a Nation that was set up to respect all religions and not let one religion run our Nation, But..We are still a Christion Nation and have been since our Bills Of Rights & Our Constitution was Written over 200 years ago! We have been successful so why change now? MAY GOD BLESS THE: United States of America, now and for ever more!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            Roblew. This country was founded to prevent people like you from getting control and trying to run this country as a church. You have a whole lot of reading to do, and I know it will break your heart but a lot of the founding fathers were atheists. You really do need to educate yourself before opening your mouth and showing your lack of knowledge about our government, Constitution, and founding fathers. To make it easier on you, I will tell you that we are a Constitutional Republic which functions as a liberal democracy. John Adams made sure that we are a nation of laws and not of men. This is to make sure that people like you cannot hijack this country and so far it has worked.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Eyes is blind and ignorant. He does not know that God’s word says to elect Godly men to represent us, or that this nation was founded on the principles of God. He claims to know so much, yet he walks around in darkness with his eyes and ears still closed, binded by Satan and his schemes. All we can do is pray for those still walking in the darkness, that the light may come into their lives one day that they might also experience and receive the truth.

        • cr747

          EYESWIDEOPEN SAYS: You sound like a one legged man at an ass kicking. Learn some respect, and some history.

        • Paul

          Thats because there is no hebrew word for murder. read in original version , it says thou shalt not commit murder. Just like they said they put nails through his hands, because there is no word for wrist

      • Nicholas

        JeffH wrote …remember that it is said in the bible, an “eye for an eye” and “murder is a sin”, but the bible does not say that “killing is a sin”.
        I concur with your understanding of scripture. Not all killing is murder. The sense of The Ten Commandments, according to bible experts studied and also consistent with US law, is that it is murder which is the focus. Surely, killing in self-defence or in defense of others is lawful. Further, catching a fish, for instance, to feed one’s family, is lawful, and Jesus assisted the disciples in catching an entire net full of fish at his direction. Gospel of Jesus Christ according to St. John, chapter 21. A hunter feeds his family with game, also lawful. It may be that the English translation of the Hebrew for this Commandment, as killing, is to help minimize unnecessary killing; the custodians of The Ten Commandments from the time of receipt to this very day, Israel, understands this Commandment to mean Thou shalt not murder, according to my study. Exodus, chapter 20, Hebrew language.

        • James

          Nicholas, There are over 20 sins in the Bible that are capital offenses. For example “If a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death” (Lev. 20:12); “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them…shall surely be put to death” (v. 13); and “if a man lie with a beast, he shall surely be put to death: and ye shall slay the beast” (v. 15).
          Concerning God’s Law, Jesus said: “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled” (Mt. 5:17-18).
          Concerning capital punishment, John said: “If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death,he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it” (1 John 5:16).

    • Get it right.

      You are slaves to stupidity of thought. It is hard to understand how so many people are suddenly acting like you are. Only answer is fear of a black man. We played like we were a country that wasn’t racist, but low and behold the racists emerge from the sewer to claim their rights to destroy this country.

      • David

        It’s not racism it’s pissed off! Obviously you do not earn money the hard way nor do you care about the entreprenuer spirt, which drives this country. The transfer of wealth will only go on for so long before the next crisis occurs….and that’s just what the elites are waiting for.

        • eyeswideopen

          David, what does earning money have to do with anything. Get it right is stating an opinion, what in the hell does money have to do with it. You sound like DaveH. always a hand in my pocket.

        • eyeswideopen

          The transfer of wealth happened when you were sleeping. The top 1% of the country holds 95% of the wealth. Look at the forbes list of money that the Ceo’s are making and ask your self what was the percentage of my last raise. Then ask your friends what theirs was.
          But here is a little info on salaries for middle class.
          http://www.salary_report_Kris_cowan/2008/10/average-salary.html

          • eyeswideopen

            http:blogs.payscale.com/content/2008/07/ceo-salaries–1.html

          • eyeswideopen
          • roblew

            As President Ronald Regan use to say..’There You Go Again’ !!!!
            Now Open your eyes and try to read what I am about to type…
            Why do so may hate people that have been successful in life?
            They are the same ones that went on to build Companies that hired us & paid our salaries, feed our families, educated our children & even some times paid for our Health Insurance or at least split the cost with us! They where the ones that when successful hired more people, grew their Companies and when needing parts & materials caused more companies, which hired more & more people!That is what made Amrica Great!!!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            And they pay 90 percent of the taxes. So what is your point? They are no threat to me, and I like the fact they hire people and give them gainful employment. That is a bad thing with you for some reason. Be a democrat and punish the successful, and reward the lazy. That is what you guys do. Why can you not be happy when someone succeeds? You guys always want to knock them down and make them pay. Why?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Why is this under a moderator? Because I spoke the truth? These guys can get on here and call a certain color of person a redneck, which is indeed a very racial term, and its ok, but because I speak the truth, Im moderated. Not right. I will stand side by side with a black man and fight with him to protect his rights and mine, but Im tired of the double standard where I can be persecuted and prosecuted because of the color of my skin. I can be hounded and beat upon and called cracker and honky on TV and radio by Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, and that is ok, but I cant tell the truth without being moderated? Give me a break allready. I happen to hang with many black brothers who feel exactly like I do, and they arent offended.

        • libertytrain

          I don’t know if you noticed a post I made prior, but because of words sometimes used that are regulated by automatic lists, or too many links in a post, has caused posts I have made here and other reputable sites, to be under moderation, it’s an automatic action – nothing personal – otherwise you would not see as many diverse posts on this site “allowed.” These days there are just automatic response mechanisms online designed to protect all of us – That’s why so many of emails to our own personal email accounts are tossed in junk mail – it’s just an automatic response – And I’m glad, because I sure get an awful of junk email I’d rather not deal with.

        • eyeswideopen

          Berb, here’s the defination of redneck. She was right.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Also, there are many northern people of a certain color, that refer to anyone from the south of a certain color as a redneck, and it is a racial term when they use it. You can dance around and hide it if you want, but its a fact. When a certain color refers to a southern white guy as a red neck just because he is from the south, it is used as a degrading racial remark, yet it is tolerated because of who it is against, and its a double standard. Its not right.

      • roblew

        The 1st ones that ‘played’the ‘Race Card’ was Obama and his far left Liberals! They needed an excuse for their total failure to Govern this Great Nation! It is Not because ‘Obama’ is or maybe is Not black,
        as that is till very questionable at this time! The PEOPLE of this great nation are just afraid that the lack of ‘Common Since’ returns to Our Government…we are in very, very deep trouble. All that we held True & Believed in are being taken away and that is Wrong!!! A Black President would be great..Just Not..Obama!!!! He does not satnd for most Americans, even though so many wanted “Change” / They have their change and are scared to death. When they object they are called ‘Racist’! Even ‘Blacks’ marched on Washington D.C…Where they ‘Racist’ or just Good American Citizens????

        • eyeswideopen

          Roblew, you are a nut, the camera searched and couldn’t find any black at the march. Please move to another country. I don’t think you are a good example for young children.

          • roblew

            To ‘eyes & Brain…Closed… Why not try ABC-TV News… They interviewed several ‘Blacks’ from Texas & a few from other Southern States as well. Don’t open you mouth & brain if you are not bright enough or smart enough to understand…Try Using Common Since!!!!
            As for me moving to another country???? …. I firmly believe that you my very ignorant blogger is the one that needs to move to the Middlest & Take Obama with you, since you Both Think Alike!
            BY the way ‘lay off the Coolaid’ it is not good for the pea brain you have! I do not normally call others names nor get personal on e-mails, but with you I made an exception! Don’t bother responding as I will Not Read any more Blogs you post. You make N0 since & You are a waist of all other legitemate Bloggers!

        • American Citizen

          I, too, am probably considered a racist because I don’t like Obama as President. It’s not only his arrogance in trying to shove all his policies down our throats, it’s the policies themselves that I object to. I remember him saying, “In five days, a radical change in this country will begin.” Or words to that effect. Anybody who really listened to him during the campaign knew what was ahead if he was elected.

      • David

        Yes, and it started with the president when he threw a slur to the white sgt. for arresteing a black professor, with the professor throwing slurs to the officer against his mother. The proffessor should have been laid out for a few seconds for back talking an officer, especially about the sgt’s mother.

        • cr747

          NOTICE!!!!!!! This article was written by cr747, not David. Whose David? wrong name wrong place. DATED OCT 9 2009 AT 7:18 AM.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          And we all know if he was a white professor, and he assaulted the other color, his career would have been over right then and there. Thats the sad truth on how it works today, and it isnt right. What happened to being able to judge a man by the content of his character instead of the color of his skin? That is exactly what is done today, it isnt about the content, its about the color, and if its white, its wrong.

          • cr747

            So true Beberoni

  • Dale

    The history of gun control in the Democratic party has fueled paranoia in gun owners. The evidence is in the dramatic increase of concealed carry licenses issued, the increase in sales of firearms and the huge increase in ammuntion sales. We know the Democrats and their agenda all too well.

    • Thurman Marcum

      Dale,

      Not all democrats or liberals. I am both a democrat and a liberal.I am a gun owner.I believe you should own any weapon of your choosing.A real liberal is like the old right.Right wing and left wing has lost all meaning.We got to find a common ground on important issues.

      • David

        So then where do you stand on all the issues today? Public option health care, cap & trade, etc….I am real curious because you sound different from the rest.

      • JeffH

        You are also an American and a realist, unlike so many others that are tied to the “party line”… And I do mean both parties.

      • roblew

        I do so agree with the ‘ole’ Far Right wing of the Democratic Party & the Far left wing of the Republican Parties are both not good for America!
        I was raised a Democrat and remained that way until Richard Nixon came along and I could No stay a Democrat past that point! I found the values of the Old Democratic Party, my Dad raised me on, was no longer the Party for the People! The Democrats & Republicans had switched side/beliefs/platforms…. I then started registering as a Republican. I do not agree with the current Republican Party now & hope they get things worked out & soon!!!By the way the 2nd term Richard Nixon ran…My Dad voted, still mostly Demo, but he did vote for Nixon! The Democrats have been so far out of the political loop it is sad…!

    • American Citizen

      Dale, it’s not being paranoid, it’s being realistic. Even I, who wouldn’t touch a gun unless I absolutely had to, can see that.

    • eyeswideopen

      http://articles.latime.com/1999/May/26/News/Mn-41212

      Looks like the repuns were voting for gun control. Were you sleeping? Oh too bad. Maybe you couldn’t have stopped them. lol

  • ONTIME

    In the last few weeks I have read articles on the shortage of ammo of all calibers and the availablity for the future, I must admit that a few short months ago this very action was proposed by non other than this administration and their expressing of a paranoia. The idea that they and their bungling ways have contributed to the feelings of insecurity among the populace is not without founding and folks of all walks are storing and manufacturing ammunition in excess. It was the very words of the government admins that have generated this fear or caution and they keep on fueling this thinking by their actions, the accusations and the ineptness of policy is making for a nervous condition because of government precedent and little else.

    • JeffH

      For many months, the ammo that was in the shortest supply was the military round 5.56/223, and the biggest reason was two fold, the war on terror and the possible war on gun control. There still exists a bit of a shortage of 9mm, 357, 45 and 38 and what is available is quite expensive. Also, as more and more gun buyers turn to the AR 15 platform for use as a sporting arm and protection, a lot of suppliers are unable to ship parts or whole guns any earlier than 120 – 180 days as they are built to mil-spec and use the same parts suppliers as the military. I waited six months for my “California Legal” kit to ship. Gave me plenty of time to find the ammo.
      I live in California, so AB962 would affect me directly and would probably lead the way for more gun control restrictions in this and other states.
      Write your legislators regularly to let them know your position on possible legislation and gun control and make wise choices in the 2010 elections.

      • JeffH

        As a side note, I look forward to attending the Conferance in San Francisco. Note that it will be interesting time as SF Mayor Gavin Newsome is an anti-gun mayor and a member of Bloomberg’s MAIG(Mayors Against Illegal Guns)group thats sole intention is to promote TOTAL gun control.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          That, and spreading homo-sexuality around like its normal behavior to butt bump your buddy. Yeech. Disgusting.

          • JeffH

            Easy big guy! Could have gone without reading that, not that you’re wrong.

          • DaveH

            LOL.

      • eyeswideopen

        With all your smarts and you don’t even address the fact that some of the shortage is due to equipment from WWII?? Unbelievable, You are all like little boys in school yard, mad at the bigger boys who now have the power.

        • eyeswideopen

          Also, it was the Repubs who in 1999 voted for gun conrol, who helped cause this shortage in ammo, so please thank your party members.

          • cr747

            DIP, YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • eyeswideopen
        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          You need to read the Patriot Post

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I dont know where you guys live, but here in NorthEastern Indiana, we have an annual gun and knife show at the Coliseum here, and there is no shortage here of guns and ammo, so come on down.

      • JeffH

        I live in California where the anti’s a continuously trying to shut down the Gun Shows.

        • John

          Jeff I live in this lousy state too. They’re not only a bunch of left-wing idiots but they’re hypocrites too. A SWAT officer who also conducts firearms classes told me that Diane Feinstein has a CCW.

          • JeffH

            That is true, but she doesn’t know guns. During the push to ban sales of the SKS she was holding an AK47 and calling it an SKS. She, Pelosi and Boxer and all of the liberal left anti-gun group gotta go.

            I am from the east bay area and now live in Clovis. Which area are you in?

          • cr747

            If she does, that’s a scary thought since she can’t tell the difference in an assault rifle and an automatic. She don’t even know where to put her trigger finger when holding a gun. I saw her on TV holding an ak47 trying to explain some lie she thought up with her finger on the trigger. She definitely needs to be voted out of office before she kills somebody by holding a gun with her finger on the trigger trying to convince people that a single shot shotgun is an assault rifle.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            California is so liberal it stinks. It is infested with liberals that run it, so it is no wonder it is so far in debt, so infested with illegal aliens, and so full of criminals. The liberals dont side with the law abiding, working, tax paying citizen, they side with the special interest groups, like the illegal aliens, those on the welfare and food stamp programs that dont want to work, and the terrorist muslims running around. That is who these liberals represent, not the American people. The proof is in the pudding, as their actions speak louder than the lying words that come out of their mouths.

          • David

            You two had better move out before we bail you out with tarp money….you’ll be cutting my grass soon to pay me back!

          • John

            Jeff I live in Southern California in Orange County in a city called Brea. I plan on moving too Arizona within a few years. Too much traffic and BS here.

  • bbstacker

    It’s a fine line between paranoid and prepared.

  • No Misses

    I live in South Texas. We are very fortunate in that the “ignorant” libs haven’t been able to PUSH (as many) of their dumb ideas on us! It is my opinion that Texas should STAND UP to the Feds. Perry has done a little bit of that. When will enough! be ENOUGH? What’s it going to take, for the citizens of this country, to say “NO MORE”! I’m all for seceeding, Texas!

    I honestly think this country is a Right-leaning nation. Not sure what happened in the last election but I guess it was mostly the media. Let’s STOP buying the liberal press’ product. If every single pro-gun person would “swear-off” of the liberal press, I think they would just die off…..or Obamma would surely have to fund them some more. At least, we should SUPPORT the NRA and Fox News in their efforts.

    • JeffH

      No Misses…be prepared for the rabid attacks by the Obamanation supporters.
      I envy your Texas government and am seriously considering a move there in the future. Although the talk of a Texas succession is interesting, I would think the situation in America would have to get much worse for that to happen. Vote wisley in 2010 and know that you are part of a growing majority that believes in this countries Constitution.

      • eyeswideopen

        New name for all of you non-patriots, Traitors!!!

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          A non-patriot traitor, would be one who climbs to the office of the Presidency of the United States, then apologizes to terrorists nations for us being successful, and tells the world that we are not a Christian country. Then takes billions of the tax payers hard earned dollars, and gives them to the union laden GM and Chrysler to buy votes in the future. That my friend, amongst many other things, is being a non patriot and a traitor to the American people. You wanker.

          • eyeswideopen

            Bebe, you are wrong, and he is still in office. So lean sideways and grin. You lose.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            No, I dont lose. Allthough I dont care for the guy and his parties policies, I still recognize him as the President of the United States, and it doesnt matter whether I like him or not, until election day, thats when I can air my voice. But unlike you guys on the left, who sought to undermine the last president and even have gone as far as to apoligize to terrorist nations for him being a man and standing up to them and fighting back, instead of pulling a
            Bill Clinton and curling up in a fetal ball why the enemy continually punched away at us. You just dont like it when its your turn to have sand thrown in your face. So understand, if you cant take it, then dont dish it out. But youve been dishing for 8 years, so receive a little will you.

          • cr747

            HE MAY STILL BE IN OFFICE, BUT HE SURE AS HELL NOT QULIFIED TO BE A PRESIDENT

    • Get it right.

      How many votes do you think the media had? Honey, Texas cannot do what you are suggesting. Although after reading the stuff on this site, I wish all of these people would relocate to that state. At least we could contain all of you radicals in one state. Your Governor Perry, is an absoulte idiot, who doesn’t even comprehend that Texas gets more money back from the Federal Government than it sends. What a boscoe brains. Put please, please you and your type stay there. Don’t sulley the rest of the country.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      The libs are the minority, but they get their way because for one they own the press, ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN and MSNBC, who continually brainwash the youth with their propaganda, and these kids grow up hearing them spew their lies over and over again, and think it is true, because they believe everything they hear, just like I did when I was young and dumb. They try their damndest to convince us all they are right, when they are so out of touch with the common joe, and they have no morals what so ever, that I really do not understand how anyone who truly, and I mean truly loves America, and has faith in God above and holds dearly to family values, could stoop low enough to vote democrat in todays world. They may have used to have been a decent party, but just like they say the muslim religion has been hijacked by Islamic extremists, the democratic party has been kidnapped by the left wing radical extremists, and they represent only themselves and the downfall of America, and shame on any citizen that will give them their vote and let them have their way in destroying us. Shame on you.

      • eyeswideopen

        Beb, you make no sense, if the libs are the minority, how did Obama get in. What the repubs didn’t hold the party line? Make up your mind, the libs are either the majority who won, or your party deserted you and voted with the libs. Either way, you are a loser and can’t stand the fact that the radicals are out of office.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          How did he get in? Come on man. Thats easy. Its called mass advertising, the same reason Miller Lite, the nastiest tasting beer on the planet earth is a big seller, they advertise the hell out of it and tell people its good, even though it is half beer, half water, and tastes like it also. But the advertising works. Obama advertised, change-change-change for so long, and spent so many millions of dollars doing it, that the simple minded public, mainly the uneducated 18 to 25 years olds, and the minority groups who believe what TV and the news channels tell them, so they pulled the Obama lever. Guess what, theyve learned quick. His numbers are in steady decline, and in 2010 all his henchman are getting voted out of office, then in 2012 he is getting voted out. Watch and see, and please dont cry sour grapes too hard, ok?

          • cr747

            You go Beberoni. Avery true statement, wait till election time, and all the cronies can cry all the way home. WHAT HAPPEN, WAS IT SOMETHING I DID? DDUUHH!!!!!!!!!

  • American Citizen

    I was a city girl who married a small town guy who was also a hunter. I had never eaten wild squirrel or rabbit in my life before. I found I didn’t like them so he made sure I always got the “white meat” which didn’t have so my wild taste. I never did learn to like them, though. My father-in-law could fix them in a way that they tasted pretty good. But he didn’t do that very often. A brother-in-law had a pistol and we would all go out to “the Farm” my father-in-law owned and do target practice. i found that I just didn’t like to handle a gun much less fire it.
    But, I am grateful for all you legal gun owners who have the protection of the citizenry of this country in your minds and hearts. And we do need to be watchful of the government, especially of ones like the present administration.

    • JeffH

      American Citizen, it is great that you are able to differentiate(?)
      the need to not care for guns and the need to “force your principles” on others. I believe the majority believes as you do and that is the differance between liberals and the “liberal left” thinking of our current administration which indicates they don’t care what the people think. I love America, but I do not like the anti-Americans and their attempts to force feed their agenda onto free thinking Americans with their lack of respect for our Constitution and the American people.

      • Get it right.

        Sir, you should hook up with Michell Bachman, she is paranoid like you, in thinking the Congress is anti-American. You need to read your own posts and you will see what anti-American is all about. What you are promoting is treasonous and if you were to print these statements and took them to men who have served this country, most of them would be appalled that they risked their lives for people who don’t care about anyone but themselves and their macho, chest beating, anti-American beliefs.

  • Phil Z

    I traded my dog for a Smith & Wesson. It only barks when I want it to!!!

    • JeffH

      just make sure you have plenty od “dog food” to keep your dog fat and sassy. lol!

  • John Edwards

    Well, there are some very good comments in this column, and there are also a few from idiots that like Socialism…I live in Oklahoma, and fortunately its a state that didnt have even one single county that supported Nobama in the election…I would love to see a group of states, probably the same ones that were once the confederacy withdraw from the union, and declare independence from the federal government…Our country was set up to be a republic, but has, over time become a democracy..Im not sure what to call it now, but that is why the looney northeastern states, and west coast dictate what the rest of us will do..They have all of the looney representatives that want us to live in a world of Socialism…Morons like Norm above dont seem to be able to pull their heads out and see this…Im just happy to see that many of us do see.

    • JeffH

      You haven’t seen anything yet. Wait for the “fraud” eyeswideopen to start her assault on all of the right “wingnuts” and the Republican party. Then you can have a real hoot!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Norm, and pretty much most of those people who live in the northeast as you stated, (SENTENCE REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT).

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Never knew the truth was considered offensive. My bad.

        • Norm

          You are an idiot.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            Take another prozac Norm, you’ll be ok.

  • http://Google/Windstream.net Walter V.

    I lost five brothers and one sister during Hitlers regime,and what was left of the family,we was herded into Auschwitz for one day and night.But we survived.I have observed what can happen to you if you owened a gun and tryed to hide it.You was beaten,nailed to the table and set on fire.Now this could happen here, if people dont wake up.Rember what George Washington said, when he crosed the ;Delaware”PREPARE FOR WAR WHYLE AT PEASE”

    • David

      And that folks is why history seems to repeat itself….yes Norm we are talking to you. The United States Constitution….All Rights Reserved.

      Sorry about your family but thanks for the comment.

    • JeffH

      I too have a stepfather from Warsaw that was taken to a NAZI work camp in Norway in 1943. He won’t really talk about any of it, although I know he has false teeth because of his time there.
      Fortunately he was reunited with his mother and two sisters in 1990 but he did have two brothers that didn’t survive the NAZI onslaught.
      Man is evil and capable of many attrocities, that is why we must be ever vigilante and protect our freedom at all cost.

      • eyeswideopen

        What about everyone elses perception of freedom? What happens when they aren’t congruent? Does that mean you get to decide who is right? What happened to your democracy of majority rules?? Oh, when you are on the losing side, you change the rules and kill the Constitution. I forgot that the Constitution allows the minority to subugate it.

        • David

          Eyes, set aside your hatred for the hard working tax payers for a minute and think about who/what you are now supporting. You have been scorned so badly that you think it is ok for the liberals (which you say you are not one) to swing this country so far to the left that there will be nothing left of an industrial base. Hell-o we are stocking up so that if guns and ammo are outlawed; at least we will be able to provide as hunter/gatherers for our children. Take a no doz and open your damn eyes!

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            He cant. As a left wing pacifist appeaser he can only blindly follow the ideals the democrats set forward for him. Leftists are not allowed to think contrary to their party, lest they be removed, like Joe Lieberman was. They are out of touch with reality, thats why they are backed by the hollywood drug addicted actors and actresses, who all live in that gray area where everything is ok, and no morals are needed. Sorry, I cant follow the blind ideals of those whose ideas blow with the wind to whatever THEY deem to be popular at the time. Stand for something or youll fall for anything. I cant do that. Dont hate me because Im smart.

          • eyeswideopen

            David, you haven’t noticed that we don’t have an industrial base? Where have you been living? But you can check on a Republican who has made history becoming the third richest in America, he is Sheldon Adelson, who made all his money in China. Gez, I wonder how? Did he start any companies here? No, but he did buy into gaming which helped him become the richest man trying to conrol Israel and our Republican party. He made history by attaining wealth the fastest of any person in history.

          • eyeswideopen

            David, you don’t get it do you? I am for the taxpaying middle class, I am against the corporate companies who get federal assistance (our tax dollars) and have monopolies that are strangling normal citizens.

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          Of course the majority rules, and it still does, thats why Obama is president, because the majority voted for him. However, it seems now that the majority is realizing what a mistake they made. I guess the majority didnt envision him giving billions to GM and Chrysler to buy future UAW votes for his party. They didnt envision him escalating the welfare and food stamp programs to epic proportions. They did envision him spending more money in 8 months than the administration before him spent in 8 years, with nothing to show for it. At least the last admin had Hurrican Katrina cleanup to show for it, and a country of free people in Iraq, and the clean-up of 9-11. Whats the new admin got to show? More people unemployed enjoying government handouts at record levels. Millions more to soon lose their jobs. I dont think this is the change the majority had it mind, but hey, you are right, the majority rules and they voted for this change. So dont cry alligator tears in 2010 when the majority realizes their mistake and corrects it by kicking countless democrats to the curb. And dont cry in 2012 when Obama is voted out of office, if his own party doesnt remove him first. Majority rules, you are correct.

  • Tom

    Tennessee stands with Texas–Let those Noreasters and West Coast Libs have their Socialist Union.

    • JeffH

      I say send ‘em to one of the coastal islands off either coast and let them breed away. They can socialize their medicine, spend their own tax money, eat soy products and cool the Ozone layer. Most of all they can write their own laws and constitution and defeat the bad guys with love. Obama can be their leader and the Rev. Wright their preacher. Wouldn’t want them to have nothing to worship.

      • JeffH

        …forgot to mention they could get Van Jones as their green czar and ACORN to organize their elections and brothels. Cass Sunsteen could provide legal representaion for any animals that get arrested or want to sue any of them.

        • David

          You nailed it Jeff

        • http://donthaveone Beberoni

          And Ill bet Norm supports ACORN and what they do.

    • Norm

      If it wasn’t for the inventions and inovations of the Northeast and West Coast, this country would be a fourth rate bunch of truck farmers.
      Let’s see .. Colt, Springfield, Marlin, Winchester, Remington,Sturm Rugar, Mossberg, ETC all seem to have started in Southern New England.
      That should make Beberoni happy.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Indiana stands with Tennessee and Texas. We love normal God loving, family loving, America loving people. Libs keep out.

  • http://personalliberty.com True Patriot

    “In the beginning a Patriot is a scarce man, hated, feared and even scorned but in time when his cause succeeds the timid join him and even praise him because at that point it costs Nothing to be a Patriot” Very insightful words that all should look at and understand that this quote is almost 100 years old! People have been aware for a long time that standing up for what is right isn’t always popular but the ones who have the intestinal fortitude, do it because they don’t care about personal praise or popularity they do it because their care is in the right place! This Country was founded on the principals that Tyranny was wrong and that the People (the land’s inhabitants) made the decisions for their own destiny not Monarchs and Dictators, its what our Forefathers envisioned and what they felt strongly enough about to write down on Documents to last for hundreds and even thousands of years. I’m not ready to go off and find another piece of land as they did and start all over, this is the place I want to stay and raise my children and teach them right from wrong and to also teach them that without the proper Checks and Balances that things can and do get out of control whether that is on a personal level or a Political level. We are not here for Government they are here for Us. How that ever took a 180 I’m not sure but it has to be brought back into the proper perspective. “Of, For and By the People” Not Of, For and by the Special Interests and Self Proclaimed Dictators! Remember: Complaisancy is the last phase before Slavery!

    • eyeswideopen

      True Patriot, we had an election and guess what the Supreme Court didn’t even have to get involved. We have an elected President and we also have a bunch of sore losers, who are traitors.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        So ok, lets have it your way. If we are all sore losers, then what was the last 8 years, with all you libs, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC totally attacking the Bush admin day in and day out? Do you all get a pass, because your democrats? Are you always right? I dont think so. How can you guys attack, attack, attack for 8 years, then come running saying it isnt fair to disagree with what your inexperienced wanker in charge is doing, especially after all the harm he has done allready. Come on man. He has spent more in 8 months that the guy before him did in 8 years, and you all complained all the time about Bush admin spending. 8 months to 8 years? Gimme a break. Billions to Chrysler and GM when they have shown they dont know how to run a business. Come on man, that was buying UAW votes and you know it, with my money. Apologizing to terrorist nations, and giving lawyers to terrorists, come on man. Wake up allready. Alliances with the racist Rev. Wright, the dirty Rezko, the dangerous terrorist Bill Ayers, and were all supposed to not ask questions? Come on man. Millions have lost their jobs, with millions more to follow, because of this current admin that doesnt have a plan or a clue, other than to still try to point the finger at Bush. Come on man. Fact is, in 2010 a bunch of democrats are getting voted out, because America has had enough and recognized their mistake allready. In 2012, Obama is gone, and I really wouldnt doubt if the democrats themselves remove him and try to replace him with Hillary, because its obvious allready he doesnt stand a chance in 2012. But either way, the old race card is coming up. Watch and see.

        • cr747

          Beberoni Oct. 7th at 7:21 AM, I agree with you. They gave the Republicans hell when Bush was in office, and now we got someone not even half as smart as Bush running the country. We are headed down a dead end road with no place to turn around. I think Obama needs to be IMPEACHED before our country is taken over by another country, and you will see the Americans in line trying to get a bowl of rice. God bless those people, and little children starving to death, but yet we can buy out automobile industries, and big banks, and put our country trillions of dollars in debt. I say something is wrong with what we got running the country, from congress all the way up to the top. Everyone get out and vote in 2010 and we will begin to turn this mess around. By the way, I am a registered democrat,”shame to admit it,” but I sure as hell didn’t vote for one for President, and doubt if I will next time.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I agree with everything you said, except we cant impeach him, because he hasnt committed an impeachable offense. Heck, Clinton committed perjury and we couldnt get him out. He has committed acts that have hurt America, what with kissing the terrorist nations butts and being a pacifist, and weakened us in our enemies eyes by providing lawyers for the terrorists we caught trying to kill us. The enemy knows he and his party are weak, and they laugh at how stupid Americans were to elect him. Heck man, the taliban and al quaida wanted the democrats elected, so whats that tell you. But he hasnt comitted impeachable offenses yet, and I truly hope he doesnt. We need to really suffer under him to let people understand just what his party means and what they bring to the table, which is nothing. Clinton rode the successes of Reagan for 6 years, and started sinking it his last 2, then Bush got it going good again, until his last 2 years when the fear of a democrat getting elected screwed it all up. Now we are really paying. Pay attention America, learn by what they are doing, and dont listen to what they are saying. The two arent the same.

          • eyeswideopen

            Berb, you need to read more about your successful Pres. Regan. His tax breaks had to be reversed at he almost bankrupt this country. Just go in an look at the tax breaks and increases. Read and learn.

        • eyeswideopen

          Bebe, your understanding of our economy is something that preacher DaveH should help you with. Why don’t you just read what happened during the Bush administration? Are you afraid of learning what they did?

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I know what they did. They took the fight to the enemy,(finally), they had the stock market at an all time high, had employment at an all time high, had unemployment at an all time low, then the last two years, with no good successor in sight, everyone, especially business knew Obama was going to win, so they tightened up, saved money to pay the new higher taxes that were coming up, and business slowed to a crawl. Obama got elected, business started laying off people, and millions more are to follow, as the Bush tax cuts are going to be taken away by the dems in 2010, as they have allready said so. The Bush admin freed a country of millions of imprisoned and beaten upon people, and put the respect of us into these terrorist countries eyes. Come on man, you think after all the things they blew up when Clinton was in there, and he didnt do anything, that they had one iota of respect for us? You think Obama saying he wants to sit down and talk with them makes them respect us? Dude, seriously, what part of them saying over and over and over again, that they want us dead, they wont stop until we are dead, and they will kill their own selves to make us dead, dont you understand? What part of this dont you understand? You really honestly think they feel this way because of Bush? Dude, they were attacking us and blowing stuff up when Bush was the owner of the Texas Rangers and nothing to do with anything. Quit placing them blame, other than to blame us for allowing them to attack without striking back sooner. Im against war, but I fully believe that if we have to turn one of these terrorist countries into a sheet of glass to make them finally get the message, and to save millions of lives in the long run, Id do it in a heartbeat. Im not willing to roll up into the fetal position and play pacifist appeaser, because get educated and look at the facts. Everyone and anyone that has played the pacifist appeaser has lost, gotten beaten, and gotten eliminated. Get real will you.

      • http://personalliberty.com True Patriot

        Just so eyes knows that I’m not picking on her President, the people I’m refering to at the top that are the self proclaimed rulers of this country have nothing to do with the Office of the President! I’m refering to the people with the control over the puppet position of the presidency! Obama like many presidents before him is just doing what he’s told! Read the blogs on this site: he has not followed any of the rhetoric speech plans he told us over and over during his campaign, he’s going forward with the playbook he was given after he was sworn in! Today in America The requirements and qualifications are more stringent to be chosen as a head coach of a Professional Sports Team than they are to be selected as a candidate for president! The reason for that is because they are just a figure head, a front man for the ones with their hands on the levers! Educate yourselves a little bit by finding out what the Federal Reserve is, what the IMF is, the CFR, Bildebergs then you will find out who Obama is working for. The last President we had that tried doing things on his own that weren’t sanctioned by the Top was John F. Kennedy and we know where that got him. Some of his plans for the United States included: removing the Federal Reserve, getting rid of the CIA and IRS. Bold moves that he thought he had the power to do. But please don’t take my word for it, research it yourself I found all this information in the Library of Congress not in the National Enquirer! So don’t blanket anything I’m writing with a flippant “ah baloney”. John’s brother Bobby thought he would get in the office and pick up where his brother was stopped and we know what happened to him also. Find a book that somone spent a decade of research before he wrote it and read those books not your shallow government edited school books that are giving the surface report. I’d rather read something that someone risked all to gain nothing but to report the facts than my childs watered down history book! If this country doesn’t start really educating itself independently it will only become less and less knowledgable about what is going on! Most people can’t tell you what the 3 Branches of Government are, what responsibilities the Treasury Dept has, when the Federal Reserve Act was signed, what President signed it, how he felt about it afterwards. Mainly because people are to lazy to read!

    • Get it right.

      So, since you mentioned slavery, I take it you don’t want to be enslaved? The rest of us normal Americans don’t want to be enslaved by your nonsense. It is easy to tell a racist, cause sooner or later they will use one of the words that show their true feelings.

      • David

        You are on your way to being enslaved and don’t even see it coming…

        • John

          Oh yes we do.

      • http://personalliberty.com True Patriot

        I think you should have someone read this to you that has a beeter understanding of the English language. Does someone wipe your chin or do you just wear a bib?

  • Dennis

    Many good comments here.What people need to realize is that there are no democrats or republicans they are all the same.Elitists wanting to rule and control the rest of the population period.They feel they are above us and just looking at our country and the things they are doing should show anyone with half a brain whats really going on.Obama was just another sham and now alot of people,i think, are waking up to that and are seeing him for what he really is.Socialism didnt work, communism didnt work, dictatorships dont work, how many times in history do these things need to happen and fail miserably before people wake up and realize this.We were meant to be a republic not a democracy.If ya dont know the difference research it and learn,i did and wow what an eye opener.If we dont get over party politics and back to what this country was founded on we are boned.

    • JeffH

      Political parties are a lot like churches. Good christians don’t need to go to a specific church that might try to sway their beliefs a certain way. Political parties do the same thing! Good people know the differances between right and wrong.
      Who is always asking for your money? Politicians and Preachers.
      That’s it in a nutshell.

    • DaveH

      The hard part is convincing those who smell the trough that they really aren’t going to benefit in the long run. The politicians will say anything to get their vote, but when the chips are down, they will step on them just as they will step on us.

    • Get it right.

      Dennis, just how do you think a republic functions? Do you know the difference between a Constitutional Republic and a Democratic Republic? Do you know how many forms of Democracy there are in the world? The defination of a Constitutional Republic as defined by John Adams is “a government of laws and not of men”. Which means you bunch of riotious traitors need to get over yourselves and allow this country to be governed by laws and not radicals such as yourselves. You don’t respect the Constitution one iota. The power of government officials is checked by allowing no single individual to hold executive, legislative and judicial powers. Instead these powers are separated into distinct branches that serve as a check and balance on each other. A constitutional republic is designed so that “no person or group (can) rise to absolute power. Our founding fathers knew more than you, on how to set up a country and you are making a mockery of their work… also known as this country. You keep referring to the consitutation, well you sure don’t honor it, you are degrading the whole premise of its value.

  • Rod

    There is only one free America- – - an ARMED America! Our “RIGHTS”
    are our rights! The flow of SCUM will ooze out of Washington. They still think we rode in on a head of cabbage.

  • Paul

    Please read The Federalist Papers, which describes our Founding Fathers INTENT that all lawful, legal citizens should be armed, and in their own words, they tell us why. This is history speaking to us.

    In denying ammunition for certain weapons,(which we ARE allowed to own, assault and otherwise..stupid Californians for NOT fighting for their rights), they are in effect banning weapons..which is unconstitutional..the Constitution does not specify any particular type of weapon that is allowed.
    This, in effect, is like banning food for a human being…you know full well what the result will be.

    Folks, join, and support all the organizations who are fighting for our rights, get involved, and be active in contacting your representatives, congress, and the White House. Let them know we WILL NOT atand for any laws which are ILLEGAL by being in conflict with the U.S. Consrtitution.

    • Get it right.

      You do know that the Constitution is a document which is allowed to have amendments don’t you? The majority in this country can change it given the need. After reading this, it might be a good idea to ban guns as you people are not competent enough to own one. We wouldn’t let our police officers rant and rave like this and then hand them guns. None of you have any self control and should be ashamed of your hate. When I write my son tonight, I will have to tell him, that yes, I went to the site he told me to go too. He tried to describe the hate and he actually cried, as he couldn’t believe that he places his life in danger every hour for a group of men whose writtings show they are traitors. He is only 20 years old and so wanted to believe that he was fighting for this country so that everyone had freedom. Sad thing is, he asked me to pray for you. He said mom, they must hate me because I’m a democrat. I will pray for you , but it will be one of the hardest things I have ever done.

  • DAVE

    WELL FOLKS,ITHINK WE ALL HAVE TO AGREE THAT OUR COUNTRY IS IN JEOPARDY.WE HAVE TO REALIZE THAT OBAMA IS A SILVER TOUNGED DEVIL, SND HE HAS A LOT OF BACKING FROM PEOPLE WHO WANT TO RULE THE WORLD.THE THING WE NEED TO FOCUS ON IS PREVENTING THIS FROM TAKING PLACE.IF YOU WISH TO RETAIN YOUR FREEDOM ,AS I DO THEN,WE NEED TO UNITE AGAINST THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO TAKE OUR FREEDOM AWAY.WAKE UP PEOPLE,IT IS LATER THAN YOU THINK!!!!!

    • eyeswideopen

      Dave, name the freedom that he is trying to take.

      • Wildcat

        Eyes:

        It,s hard to tell where to start but allowing one’s self to be elected president when they are not a natural born citizen and defintley can’t prove they are weakens our Constitutional Republic.

        To force citizens to accept mandatory healthcare takes away our freedom of choice. And to circumvent the second ammendment by taxing ammunition at unrealistic rates, shows but a few of his agenda items that would rob us of our freedom.

        Trying to be a European style elitest and an Islamic appologist do not speak well for our future.

  • Carl Smith

    Late to the debate but I believe True Patriot & Dennis have nailed it down pretty well. I am a very senior citizen and have just recently taken up my hate for animals again.( this is lib talk for re-arming)I was really shocked at the increased cost of ammunition so I took last months social insecurity repayment and invested in ammo for guns that I don’t even own-yet. I believe this is called thinking outside the box. I hope I am being paranoid but I will be prepared for the idiots that will try to take my property when the economy takes the second dip and the Govt can’t send out more money because there is no more.
    Obamer may be a disaster but Pelosi, Reid, Schumer et.al are the real problem. SUPPORT a candidate that says he will support the Constitution-PERIOD.

  • http://personalliberty.com True Patriot

    Here’s the wake up call I’ve been waiting for: They just announced that Saudi Arabia and China have decided that the US Dollar is no longer going to be the currency of choice when purchasing oil! In otherwords the beginning of the end for the US economy! This will infact devalue the Dollar to an all new low sending all Dollar based economies onto a ride on the Titanic! The Amero will most likely be bypasssed altogether and we will go straight into a World Currency. Don’t be surprised we already saw it happen in Europe a few years ago with the EURO. Americans have to wake up to the fact that the Oligarchs (Neocons, Powerbrokers, Control Mongers at the top) are playing, and have been playing for a long time, a game of Monopoly that’s on steroids! You have to start thinking like they would and see how, like in the game of Monopoly, the winner is the one who has everything at the end and controls the entire board! They know that when the American people realize their game we will be angered beyond belief and that while they have been putting the US Dollars into the hands of the elite with these so called “bailouts” and at the same time stealing the people blind they will have had the time and money to prepare, while the Dollar is still worth something, and the people they have been manipulating will be literally left out in the cold! With no where to turn but to the good ole Government which made it all possible for us to get there in the first place! All the while claiming that it was out of there control and they had no way of predicting such a calamity! So you better believe they don’t want us to be armed in any way shape or form!

    • Get it right.

      I used to believe in letting everyone have guns, but this bunch of self righteous thugs, give every normal, true patriotic American a fear that the country will be destroyed by your radical insane thought process. I am going to get a gun, to protect myself from you men who no longer respect the Constitution or what it stands for. So, a black man put all of you over the edge. I guess what they say about this country is true. The rednecks are racists. You cannot deny that accusation, if you just read the comments on this site. Your parents, the dead soldiers and surely your present families cannot be proud of the rantings that have taken place here. I can tell that none of you are Christians, so I will pray for you.

      • David

        You are the racist. Your comment proves it. This country must be about 80% redneck….and yes your son is fighting beside a bunch more in the military who love this country as most of us on this site do. You have no facts so you use your liberal black trump card….do you hear any of us complaining about his skin color? You do not deserve to even comment here. Oh yes, maybe your son would have more of a backbone if you had not raised him under your skirt his whole life. The military experience is just what he needs…

        • eyeswideopen

          David, if 80% of this country was redneck, we wouldn’t have a black president. Some woman states her feelings and you treat her like that? Of course you do, you are a political idiot, who has no feelings for anyone except your own kind. You are lucky her son is serving to protect your ignorant butt. I guess you really think that only the Republicans serve this country don’t you? Consider yourself lucky that she is praying for you.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Hold on now. Because someone wants to own a gun to protect themselves, you call them a redneck. That is racist. Im picturing you as a black man, and you calling a man a redneck is like a white guy calling you the “N” word. Racist. Knock it off.

        • eyeswideopen

          She is making comment on the conversations held on this site. You know the things like, civil war against Obama, that he needs to be removed one way or the other, that all Dem’s are communists, Nazi’s, and are going to destroy this country. You know the wonderful things that you all protray the Dem’s to be. You scared her so badly that she now wants to restrict guns. Good Job, you idiots, she will now vote against us gun owners. You people just don’t get what your hate mongering does. It restrict our rights, as people become afraid of us.

          • http://donthaveone Beberoni

            I dont hate, at least I try not to. And I dont think Democrats are Nazi’s or communists. I think they are immorral liberals, as proven by their agreement to not only willing kill babies, but to spend our tax payer money to kill them overseas now. I see them as a threat to our national defense, as they seek to be pacifist and appeasers, and believe me, the enemy is rolling in the aisles laughing when they hear our leaders attempt to apologize for us being strong in the past. It doesnt bring their respect for us, I guarantee you that. The enemy you need to understand, only speaks one language, and unfortunately it is the language of violence. Only by kicking their butts will they have any sort of respect for us out of fear. Other than that, your not going to get their respect by being nice to them, by giving them money or food, or freedom, or land or anything. They will just take take take all that you give them, then take all they can that your not willing to give them. Youve got to understand the enemy, or you will understand nothing. However, no, I dont think the democrats are Nazi’s or communists. Socialists maybe, which was the way of the communists, but not Nazi’s or communists. Its just that they have been hijacked by extremists that dont have the best interests of this country in mind, just their own interests. Sorry, but thats how it is. JFK and FDR are rolling over in their graves if they could see what has become of their party.

  • Freedom Guard

    Your refusal to publish my post on 10-05-2009 (yesterday) proves my point. So much for my First Amendment Rights!

    Previously I have promoted “Personal Liberty” in private talks and in our national publications, but no more. True Patriots loath cowards and traitors. People, like you, who refuse to speak the truth to American Citizens are both.

    • libertytrain

      I don’t know what you wrote but just for the heck of it I looked to see what the comment “rules” are and here they are – my guess is you had said something or posted some link that was caught in a spam filter. Spam filters are really, really strong these days for everyone’s protection – even if it isn’t meant as spam, there are lists and lists of words that do not get through the spam filter; and websites links as well, that are read as spam by the filters on this site and pretty much every other reputable site as this one is:

      “Comment Policy: We encourage an open discussion with a wide range of viewpoints, even extreme ones, but we will not tolerate racism, profanity or slanderous comments toward the author(s) or comment participants. Make your case passionately, but civilly. Please don’t stoop to name calling. We use filters for spam protection. If your comment does not appear, it is likely because it violates the above policy or contains links or language typical of spam. We reserve the right to remove comments at our discretion.”

      • JeffH

        That would explain a URL deletion in one of my other posts.

    • Get it right.

      Freedom, Bob, doesn’t want to lose this site due to a radical like you. It must have been totally off the wall, as they are very liberal with the comments made here. So now your feelings are hurt and you will no longer promote Personal Liberty. Sounds just like one of the pissed off little boys that roam this site. I am surprised you didn’t threaten to kill poor Bob, just because he has integrity and ethics doesn’t mean he isn’t a patriot. Have you ever looked up the defination? You then need to research what your First Amendment rights are. They are not guaranteed on TV, Radio, Or the printed form, if said items are privately owned or leased. You loathe anyone who isn’t a carbon copy of you. The weak like to congregate together it gives them courage to do what they wouldn’t by themselves. You radicals are nothing but a bunch of scared little school boys, clinging to a gun, thinking it makes you a man. Guess what? The next President might be a Latino, like it or not the white race is going to be the minority race.

      • libertytrain

        You’re are so correct – I am continuously stunned that people who complain about posts, words or or links deleted, do not realize how much PERSONAL LIBERTY they have been given by Bob Livingston, on this site, to express all sides, all thoughts – with very little removed – unless it smacks of perhaps a link to a site that is considered a spam site by the filters – it’s for your protection – and of course, someone who is totally tasteless in their use of words. That too, is for our comfort and to some extent, I imagine, our protection — I’ve yet to come across another site like this, PERSONAL LIBERTY site, – where we are “allowed” to really express diverse opinions.

  • http://ordy@fedtel./net Eric g

    If a judge issues a restraining order against someone coming to your house . I think it would be acceptable for the county or city to issue a gun for you to protect yourself if the restraining order was violated . This gun could be returned after the crisses subsided . Also we could have a law where anyone can make a complaint about someone having a gun . and the police would be required to evaluate this person and the gun . also no person convicted of certian crimes should be elgible to own a gun . Evreyone else should be able to own a gun if they have had gun training and are of sound mind . This is the only kind of gun control laws I will support as i believe this is the only kind of gun controle that will make us safer where I live . It maybe differant in other areas , where there maybe a policemen on evrey city block , but here our police are miles away

  • Doug

    GET IT RIGHT is that like ACORN or MOVE On Organizations! The biggest racist in the country is the president and his wife. This guy was raised by Socialist and Communist wake up. Oh let me guess he had nothing to do with ACORN just like Reverend Wright or is that Reverend HATE WHITE, Did not Know BILL Ayers either even though he wrote his book Dreams of my father! And why is Barry spending all kinds of money to make sure no one can look at his records. The Majority did not vote this traitor in the election was fixed by ACORN WAKE (Words removed for offensive content)!

  • Norm

    I thought these guys would be right at home in this blog.

    “A violently active, intrepid, brutal youth – that is what I am after… I will have no intellectual training. Knowledge is ruin for my young men.”
    Adolf Hitler

    “Either the world will be ruled according to the ideas of our modern democracy, or the world will be dominated according to the natural law of force; in the latter case the people of brute force will be victorious.”
    Adolf Hitler

    “Let us have a dagger between our teeth, a bomb in our hands, and an infinite scorn in our hearts.”
    Benito Mussolini

    “The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
    Benito Mussolini

    “I trust no one, not even myself.”
    Joseph Stalin

    “The only real power comes out of a long rifle.”
    Joseph Stalin

    “Do not expect justice where might is right.”
    Plato

    “Among those who dislike oppression are many who like to oppress.”
    Napoleon Bonaparte

    “There is only one step from the sublime to the ridiculous.”
    Napoleon Bonaparte

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      We will take over America without firing a single shot – Nikita Kruschev. With the democrats leading the way, this might not be such a far fetched statement anymore.

  • penny wyatt

    Is it true that the US Congress is trying to sneak gun control laws, which eventually may lead to the abolishment of 2nd amendment rights? Is the H.R.45, as introduced in House: Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, an attempt to circumvent the will of the people by attaching a gun control amendment to an IRS bill? What is going on in Washington? Does Obama just bat his arrogant eyes and too many in congress faint at the sight and give him or his flock whatever they want? What about the Consitution? What about Americans? Do we no longer have any say in what our government looks like. I believe that cap and trade (tax), health care reform that looks like Obama cookie cut it with his own hand, disarming Americans so that the government can better control them is a bad trend for America. Since when did the congress work for the president? I thought the government worked for the citizens. Do not let our Constitution be shredded. Stand up and represent us. Please do your job and only your job rather than expand the jopb of the federal governemnt. Enough already! Today citizens’ rights are abolished. Eventually, the liberals won’t need congress or the courts. I believe that’s called communism.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com Global Mamma

    We are truly living in perilous times. I believe that God is removing His blessings from our once-great nation. The Lord blessed this nation so greatly in its beginning because godly men sought to create a nation like none other, one where we had the freedom to worship Him. They sought freedom from the state-run church of the old country. Somewhere along the road things have gone far astray. This nation turned its back on the One True God of the Bible, kicked Him and the Bible out of our schools, leaving a void that was filled with ungodliness. Now we have had over 30 years of slaughter of innocent little babies by the thousands every day(thru abortion) and it is called “legal”. All manor of immorality is winked at or goes unnoticed by even the average “Christian”. The Ten Commandments say “thou shat not commit murder”, abortion is murder pure and simple. There is so much that is wrong here that I can’t begin to name it all, but I believe we need to, as a nation, repent of our sin, so that God can forgive our sins and restore our nation. II Chronicles 7.14 says, “If My people, which are called by My name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways(repent), then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and heal their land.” Our nation needs healing.
    I don’t believe there is any difference in Republican or Democrat politics, I voted for Ron Paul from the great state of Texas because he stands by our Constitution and was so obviously thee most intelligent man running. I knew he would not win, but I had to vote for a man I could believe in. Whether a Republican or Democrat is in office, the same agenda goes forward. I fear for our country now that we have a non-american, socialist president. I say all those libs who want socialism should move to Europe and see how they like it once they get there. If they do like it, then by all means stay there. Just let this nation remain a Constitutional Republic as it was formed.
    I own a gun and I know that I would not feel safe without it. I do not hunt, I don’t believe our founding fathers were thinking of hunting weapons at all when they gave us “the right to keep and bear arms”. It is a right to be able to protect ourselves, be it from another person, another country or our own government turning on us.
    I am comforted to know that there are “real men” out there who are willing to fight for freedom, for themselves, their children, grandchildren and other freedom-loving americans. Fighting for freedom is no sin, the Bible does show proof of that, as others before me have stated. I myself, even tho of the weaker sex, would be more than willing to bear arms to keep my children free. Death is nothing to fear if the Lord knows you, but slavery is a fearful thing. I am sorry to say that I live in a liberal state, but would love to move to Texas if they declared state sovereignty. I visited Texas, I loved the patriotism there.
    Our family will not roll over to a tyrannical government, you can count on us when the time comes. But I do believe we all need to examine ourselves whether we be in the faith, set our own houses aright, repent and pray, so that our Mighty God can heal our nation, maybe then we could avoid the bloodshed that seems to be coming.
    Live Free or Die.

    • Norm

      Global Mamma
      There are many good moral and honest men and women who do not share your extreme religious views. God belongs in the churches that are located everywhere, and in every known form, throughout this great country. There is no government interference and they even get tax immunity.
      Your notion of religion (or anybody elses) does not belong in government. Your hate for Obama is not shared by all. He has an acceptance rating of over 50%, even in these difficult economic times that he inherited. Bush had around a 25% rating.
      I truely don’t think Jesus Christ was in favor of killing humans. That’s one of the 10 commandments.
      Your great love of “freedom” may, in fact, deny others their freedom.
      I suggest you put your gun away, and read your bible.

  • http://none alabama

    nicely said mamma,ive never done this before.my first blog to ever read,and wont reply ,because ive made my mind up after a few years of watching all this. first i did vote bush before,disapointed at the end.voted for ron paul after much thought,like mamma knowing he would never get it.but we are going to have to make choices,that will be unpopular, with maybe the masses.as did a few founding fathers,that went against a majority of english symphathizers.but you got to love a guy that wants to kick out the U.N.,the federal reserve,and IRS.now about the guns,iam a hunter only had the kind i needed to do the job in the woods.about a year 1/2 ago i started to get this uncomfortable feeling.you know its like riding a bike,you never forget.my military training started kicking in after all these years.it was a gutt feeling i used to get,before a mission went bad.oh i was a air cavalry scout in vietnam.believe it or not,the good lord lifted my helicopter off of my leg,so i could pull it out after i had given up, after i was shot down.so to all wounded warriors and vets ,i just ask you to remember the OATH we took to defend the constitution,and yes to all of you, left or right against foreign and DOMECTIC enemys.our forfathers must have been worried enough,to write it in to the pledge of the armed forces.needles to say ,now iam well enough armed for what ever may come our way. iam not sure how this may go down,if at all.if so GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH!!!

    • libertytrain

      I think perhaps that “gut feeling” you mentioned is rolling like a wave across the nation – from sea to shining sea -

      • Norm

        libertytrain
        Only among a minority of right wing extremeists. Turn off hate radio and Fox spin and turn the unbiased truth.

        • libertytrain

          How funny that you think you know what I watch or listen to? All you have to do is listen to the words of the people in everyday life – to get a sense of what people are thinking – of course, you have to go out in the world some and actually talk to people.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com Global Mamma

    So glad the good Lord got you thru that vietnam conflict Alabama! Thank you for your service to our country. I have learned to trust my “gut feeling” about things the hard way. Whenever I ignored that gut feeling, I ended up being very sorry for it.
    Libertytrain, I totally concur with you, this wave is coming on strong, people are waking up.
    Norm, you must have been government educated because your comprehension level is lower than that of most preschoolers. I never said I hate Obama and it is slander for you to tell me I hate him when I don’t. I don’t hate anyone, not even you, tho you may wish me to. You lie about Obama’s ratings, because we all can read in the news how his ratings are dropping like a rock. Lastly who are YOU to say where GOD belongs. I think you must be your own god. You said, “I truely don’t think Jesus Christ was in favor of killing humans.” You got the first part right, YOU DON’T THINK, but as for Jesus Christ, you have no knowledge of Him or the Bible and that is why you lack wisdom. “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.”—Proverbs 1.7
    Christians are meek, but being meek does NOT mean being WEAK.
    I will keep my guns AND read and love my Bible.

    • Norm

      Global Mamma
      October 8, 2009

      An Associated Press-GfK poll says 56 percent of those surveyed in the past week approve of Obama’s job performance, up from 50 percent in September. It’s the first time since he took office in January that his rating has gone up.
      Imagine that!

      Does your bible teach to call people names and try to ridicule them? That’s a favorite trick of the mentally challanged. If you can’t beat them with truth – then throw mud at them.

      THE 6TH COMMANDMENT IS : “thou shalt not kill” After 18 years of formal education “I think” I know what that means.
      You probably never read a science book in your life. I bet you don’t believe in evolution, or believe that the Earth isn’t the center of the universe.
      Instead of your “gut feeling” try making decisions based on reality and logic.

      • Norm

        correction:
        or believe that the Earth is the

      • cr747

        They only polled the democrazy’s in congress. They didn’t ask any of my family. Did they your’s? Ask people out in the real world and see what kind of persentage you get.

        • Norm

          cr747
          You are part of the right wing MINORITY. Don’t you get it?

          • cr747

            Oh yes, I get it Norm, I got it as a fighter pilot in Vietman,and still flying today. I know a joke when I see it or hear it, and the joke is the president we have got trying to run the country. He is way off line when he doesn’t care for the people that stole him into office. He better enjoy these 4 years, there won’t be anymore after these four, or less. IMPEACHED after 2010 election is over with, and all the crooks are voted out of office.

    • Norm

      “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear … ”
      ~1 John 4:18~

      For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.”
      ~1 John 3:11~

      “Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned, forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.”
      ~Luke 6:37~

      “Then said Jesus, “Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do …”
      ~Luke 23:34~

      Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
      (Matthew 5:9)

      • cr747

        Does Muslims believe what you stated here?

      • American Citizen

        I don’t think you’ll find these quotes in the Queran/Koran.

  • http://personalliberty.com True Patriot

    Let’s all keep site of the common goal and not get entangled in the web of he said she said! The power at the top loves division between us on any level so don’t let that happen. The truth is that they look at all of us the same, so we should too! In the end it’s the age old story good vs. evil. Let’s all be “the good” because it is the evil that is giving all of us the feelings of unrest. The best defense is being able to identify our true adversary and then to be prepared for the worst and hope for the best. Foxholes have no Atheists and the enemy isn’t the one fighting beside you!

  • cr747

    You have put the wrong name on blog David Oct 9 2009 at 7:18 am should be cr747 not David. Whose’s David

  • Wildcat

    In the last year I have heard from many people that they are taking steps to protect themselves from the far left now in control of all three branches of government. These are not traitors but some of the most common sense individuals I have ever known.

    When Canada sent the Mounties out to take ranchers guns they learnd that that great big area between the east and west coasts is not willing to part with their survival skills and tools.

  • James

    The landmark Second Amendment ‘Heller’ case held that a Washington D.C. ordinance (which outlawed possession of handguns in the District) had violated the Second Amendment. This case is ‘landmark’ because it’s the first time in our history that the U.S. Supreme Court has held any law in violation of that amendment. However, contrary to what some are saying, it only has effect in the District of Columbia and possibly in our possessions. The Second Amendment’s “shall not be infringed” applies only to federal legisltion or that of our possessions. It has no legal effect within the sovereign states.

  • Greenman9

    If you don’t know how to reload, learn. Buy the “makins” & lots of them.

  • Charles

    I’m a former Green beret.I spent three tours in So.Vietnam. I know full well how to use a pistol or rifle. I have several of the above. I do carry concealed as is my right to do so under the U.S. Constitution. I do worry about not only foreign terrorists but the local ones as well. the gun grabbers and everyone in the illegal president Obama’s czar court. I will shoot anyone who tries to take my guns. As Charlton Heston once said many times. “From these cold Dead Fingers.” What we need is a real Civil *** to get things back to where they belong

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