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Gun-Rights Advocates Target Two Objectives This Week

March 9, 2011 by  

Gun-rights advocates target two objectives this weekThe annual gun-rights protest at the Illinois State Capitol Building will have two primary objectives this year.

On March 10, rally participants will advocate for legislation that legalizes the carry of defensive firearms. Currently, Illinois is one of two States, along with Wisconsin, that prohibits residents from carrying concealed weapons for defensive purposes. In addition, protesters will also condemn Attorney General Lisa Madigan's decision to make public the names and other personal information belonging to law-abiding gun owners in Illinois.

According to the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA), the private information of approximately 1.5 million firearm owners will be released to newspapers, gun control groups and any resident who requests their information.

"It's bad enough that private citizens are not allowed to defend themselves when they walk our dangerous streets," said ISRA Executive Director Richard Pearson. "But now Attorney General Madigan willfully sets citizens up as targets for crime by releasing their personal information to anyone who asks for it."

The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) recently claimed that The Associated Press is behind the effort to publicize private information. CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb said that the media outlet is attempting to expose law-abiding citizens to "public scorn and ridicule." He sarcastically suggested that perhaps the names of former mental patients, recovering alcoholics and child rape victims should be released in order to sacrifice the private rights of more American citizens. 

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  • Tom

    GREAT. Now the theives will know which houses to steal from to get their wepons.

    • soldier

      Tom, keep your weapon cocked and ready to fire. If any criminal wants to steal from your home, make a great example of them. Remember to be sure to kill your intruder (as dead people can’t testify against you), then grab a knife from the kitchen, cut yourself a little bit (if you aren’t already injured), and put the knife in the criminal’s hands so when the police show up, it very clearly looks like clear cut slef-defense.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        soldier… was that an attempt at humor, or sarcasm, or are you just warped?

        • mukwah

          Don’t scoff at soldiers offering. I have taught north of 60′ and in one particularly violent community, those are the exact “suggestions” given to me by a law enforcement officer. Soldier knows what of he speaks. You need to listen better.
          mukwah

          • independant thinker

            One thing to remember people, the police are not the ones who make the final decision on filing charges it is the prosecuting attornys office that makes that decision.

          • Alex

            The “law enforcement” person you mention should not be allowed to work at a job in which HONESTY and BRAVERY are requisite.

          • Bear

            Alex, Often honesty and bravery are far removed from reality. Any law enforcedment officer will tell you that if you shoot and only wound an intruder, you will most likely end up in a court of law as the person being sued for injuries you inflicted on the intruder during his intrusion into your home……and, you will most likely lose the case……which could ultimately lead to you losing everything you’ve worked all your life for including the home you were trying to defend. A law enforcement officer is absolutely correct when he tells you that dead men can not testify against you and you can still bet your bootie that you will still end up having to convince a judge and a jury that you knew you were about to die at the hands of the intruder. If you can not be convincing, you still might end up with jail time. Unfortunately, this is often the case with the criminal justice system we now have in place. One day you are the victim, the nest day, the intruder is. The decision to shoot is a huge one.

          • Aix Sponsa

            BEAR. “Castle doctrine” should be universal law.

          • Aix Sponsa

            Soldier and Mukwah= Police officers are taught to be unethical, which they readily accept. From suggesting that someone commit a felony, to intimidating citizens at routine traffic violation to get them to forfeit their civil rights, so the officer can flex his authority. IMO police, lawyers, politicians, preachers have been lying and stealing, etc. since they could crawl. The frog and the scorpion, remember. In 6 decades I have never seen an honest officer that remained an honest officer for very long. They either got fired or quit the business. period. Cynical or realistic?

        • Jaime

          No Robin duh! the home invaders are warped, apparently as are you.

        • JC

          “Let therefore every man, that, appealing to his own heart, feels the least spark of virtue or freedom there, think that it is an honor which he owes himself, and a duty which he owes his country, to bear arms.”
          – Thomas Pownhall

          Let criminals and our enemies of all stripes fear we the people.

      • Aix Sponsa

        Uh huh. Victims, show your personal integrity by commiting a felony, wound yourself.

        • JC

          Personal Integrity?
          Just playing by the rules set by the gun grabbers…and of course “their” personal integrity.

    • Aix Sponsa

      Consider that “gun” stickers on your car, home door, etc. are saying to criminals = “Hey, I have guns. Follow me home, see where I live, them steal my guns when I am gone.”

      • Bear

        Aix Sponsa, Not really sure where you’re going with that one, but if a gun sticker is an invitation to you, I’ve got to question your sanity. I own a gun shop. I have a huge sign out in front that tells the world that I have guns yet all I see is honest law abiding citizens who wish to purchase all kinds of guns. With the level of security I have, only a fool with a death wish would try to rob the place. I personally feel that any criminal who saw such signs, as you suggest, would automatically steer clear of those homes or citizens.

      • JC

        Really? You think so?
        I have to wonder then, what they think of the sign on my fence.
        It says “WARNING” then there’s a silhouette of a German Shepherd below and then it says:
        “The Dog has a Gun and Refuses to take his Medication”
        Do you think that makes the criminals want to come into my house?

      • Patty

        It is just giving them fair warning. Although, I would not post it on my door or advertise. When I told someone I would kill anyone who broke into my home. Their little liberal response was: “There life is worth your TV?” My response is, “They thought it was.” I don’t care about possessions in my house, I care about my physical well being which I put way above theirs. I didn’t ask for the fight, but I sure as hell will finish it. For fun, listen to Teddy:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_QjEL0uUgo

        • Deano

          Right on

    • Gordon Thornburg

      Madigan and the ass. press should be dumped into a nuke hole and covered up

  • Bill

    It’s a double headed sword, Will a potential thief be sure the house is empty? Surprise!!

    • soldier

      If I was a criminal and I wanted to steal someone’s firearms after the list was made public, I would spend some time spying the target home to see if the person regularly goes to work, etc. before making my move. As you leave your home, look very carefully for anyone who might be spying on you. If you can try to park your car far away so a criminal can never ascertain if you are home or not.

      • tyrannynot

        And put a timer on some of your lights.

      • Aix Sponsa

        And if you shoot him inside your house, it could be argued that you did premeditated murder ONE.

        • JC

          And what kind of an idiotic person or law could argue preparedness in the defense of self family and property against an intruder “inside” your home. Did the intruder have some inherent liberal right to enter your home?

      • Average Joe

        Being single and having two cars and a motorcycle…it always looks like I am home…been here 22 years, never a break in, never a problem. Anytime I am not home, my neighbors let me know who if anyone came by my house while I was gone…we look out for each other here. If my home was invaded and I shot the invader….my neighbors would help me feed them to the gators (yup, I am in Florida…Gator contry). Perp?…What perp?

  • winston

    ALL I KNOW THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS WILL GET WORSE AND WORSE WITHOUT SOME KIND OF RESTRAINT IT WILL BE LIKE THE OLD WEST A PERSON LOOKS AT YOU AND YOUR DEAD THIS IS INSANITY

    • Bill

      I have had my CCW Permit for two years now and have yet to shoot anybody. I only cary to defend myself and family. Why don’t you understand that just because i cary a gun changes the person that I am? If you don’t think you can carry without the ability to control yourself by all means don’t carry a weapon but don’t try to tell me I cant. It is my right. Thanks

      • http://www.productivitysystems.com Steve Thompson

        Until I know you personally, I’ve no idea what you’ll do with your weapon – nothing personal, but when whackos carry weapons on the streets, people get shot (road rage, immaturity, simple anger, drunkenness). Too bad government has abdicated its long-held responsibility to protect the citizenry ( police lay-offs abound), then pass legislation to arm that citizenry in order to make each of us responsible for his own safety, when in actuality, just the opposite occurs. With a gun, when you miss your target, where does the bullet stop? Isn’t it ludicrous that guns are lea=gal to carry and use for protection, but tasers and full-strength pepper spray are illegal (in Michigan, at least)?

        • JIBBS

          There were two people with CCW present when Giffords was shot, did you forget gangbangers carry guns all the time with no CCW ? As for Michigan laws, I would move if I were you.

        • JIBBS

          How well do you know the cops in your town, the Sheriff in your county, and the Michigan State police ? the fact is, you don’t !!!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jibbs,
            Actually I have gotten to know quite a few of the police in my town. I have even shown up with coffee for them at accidents and other problems. I respect them and the job they do. I get along fine with them and I expect no special favors from them. I also know they can’t possibly be everywhere at all times so I depend on myself to protect my family!! Believe me when I say Im’ up to the task!

        • George

          Where do some get the Idea that ccws people shoot anyone that isn’t a real treat. There are millions of us. Yet the streets are not running with blood. CCW permits are a deterrent to violent crime and home invasion. Where do these ideas come from about firearms owners? Many more people are killed and maimed by shitheads wanting to be the first at the next stoplight with their cars. Should we outlaw 3 to 6000 lb. weapons driven by self important morons.

          • momplayer

            I have a ccw so I can shop at the grocery store without being mugged you never know if the man walking towards you is a begger or a taker. That glock on my hips helps them make a choice to go ask someone else and leave me alone. One senior citizen was killed in vegas in Smith’s parking lot they tried to rob another senior in Walmart parking lot only he was armed guess who won. where do these people get the idea that just cause you carry you’re violent. I’ve never had to pull my weapn,but if I ever do I’ll shoot.

          • Bear

            Way to go George! I carry too, Glock 23. A friend asked me, “what are you afraid of?” My answer, ” absolutely nothing!”

        • independant thinker

          “Too bad government has abdicated its long-held responsibility to protect the citizenry”

          The courts have ruled the police are NOT required to protect people.

          ” Where do these ideas come from about firearms owners?”

          The Brady campaign to prevent gun violence (or Handgun control Inc. or whatever the he!! they call themselves this month). Also Feinstein, Bloomberg, Dailey, and Schumer among others.

        • Bear

          Steve, I fail to understand your statement. “Too bad the government has abdicated its long-held responsibility to defend the citizenry.” Do you mean like they are doing in Arizona sending in the military to knock out those drug dealers and human trafficers? Like they’re doing to close the borders and protect all of those “citizenry” land owners. I think you need to do a bit more research pal. The government has NO responsibility nor does law enforcement to protect anyone. When ever did the government protect any of us? As for concealed carry, let me enlighten you. In every state where concealed carry has been approved the crime rate has gone down drastically. In particular, rapes, domestic violence and road rage. That IS a fact. Why do I choose to conceal carry? Beside the fact that our founding fathers had the wisdom to include the second amendment which confirms my God given right to protect and defend myself and my family, I choose to do so because when seconds count, cops are always minutes away and the fact that a cop is just way too heavy to carry. You should know that law enforce spends way more time doing clean up after crimes than they ever do stopping or preventing a crime. That’s because they rarely know when or where a crime is going to happen. Here’s a question for you. If you and your family were at the mall and some crazed mad man pulled out a gun and began firing into the shoppers and you saw people falling after being hit by the mad man’s bullets, would you prefer to A. pull out your cell phone and try in desperation to call 911 or B. see the man standing next to you pull out his Glock 23, .40 cal. pistol and kill the shooter. Try to understand this. The one thing that scares the hell out of the bad guys is the thought that someone else WILL have a gun and will kill him. There’s nothing else in this world that makes a criminal happier than for the government to make another place a “gun free zone.” And, people who persist in creating these “gun free zones” are doing nothing more than creating targets of opportunity for the criminal element. That too is a fact! I would suggest to you that you find a gun dealer close to you, call them up and inquire about getting into an N.R.A. certified firearms safety class. Go through the class and acquire a working knowledge of firearms. Once you can understand them, you will have no reason to fear them nor their owners. :)

        • http://personalliberty.com RandyH

          Of course you are responsible for your own safety, same as you must wipe your own ass, do you want the police to do that for you too? The police rarely PREVENT anything, they normally only respond AFTER the crime has occurred. What do you plan to do while your wife or daughter (or son) is getting butt$%#%ed by thugletts and your property is getting hauled off, stand there and scream “The PO PO is comin’ and you better stop that!”? Get real man.

        • Southern Patriot

          Your logic is all warped. The history of this type of raving has been reproduced in almost every state that has passed “shall issue” concealed carry laws. US DOJ and FBI Statistics show that violent crimes have actually decreased in the states that have passed those laws. (Don’t take my word for it, do a little web research).

          You have watched too much TV. Our history of the “violent West” shows that even the old West was not nearly as violent as TV would have us believe.

        • Aix Sponsa

          Bull chips. Ever wake up at 130 am with someone standing at the foot of your bed? I did 2 years ago. I live 8/10 mile from the police headquarters and it took them 25 minutes to get here after the 911 call. Trust me. You better be able to handle your own situations or be totally prepared to die. Oh yes, “I” definitely handled the situation instantly and very personally.
          Oh, excuse me mugger who just knifed my wife, Let me go home and get my gun, I will be right back.

          • Bear

            Aix Spons,
            That’s more like it. I no longer question your sanity. :)

          • JC

            Thanks for clearing that up Sponsa. I too was quite sure you were an advocate of disarmament…and that you were one of “them”.
            Glad to hear you handled the situation and I hope you and your wife were none the worse.

        • JC

          Steve Thompson says:
          March 9, 2011 at 8:44 am
          Until I know you personally, I’ve no idea what you’ll do with your weapon – nothing personal, but when whackos carry weapons on the streets, people get shot (road rage, immaturity, simple anger, drunkenness). Too bad government has abdicated its long-held responsibility to protect the citizenry ( police lay-offs abound), then pass legislation to arm that citizenry in order to make each of us responsible for his own safety, when in actuality, just the opposite occurs. With a gun, when you miss your target, where does the bullet stop? Isn’t it ludicrous that guns are lea=gal to carry and use for protection, but tasers and full-strength pepper spray are illegal (in Michigan, at least)?
          ________________________________________________________________

          By your logic, we should ban cars too. Afetr all “whackos” can get cars and they can be dangerous as well. Better put steak knives on the list…oh, and hammers, after all someone might get wood shop rage rage or garage rage…

          Sorry pal, guns are tools of defense and we have the absolute right to defense whether it scares ‘you” or not.

        • Patty

          When “wackos” carry guns on the street I can bet you they are not legal.

    • Joe Gettum

      Anyone who thinks that conceal carry with make people act like the “Old West” should see their doctor and have the tumbleweeds taken out of their brain. Law abiding citizens should be able to protect themselves (and others) from incidents like the Giffords incident. I think if their had been a person in that crowd with a concealed carry license, trained in situations like this, the damage that this crazy unleashed could have been stopped sooner. I also think that anyone who says that concealed carry will make it more like the “old west” has never been the victim of a robbery or been mugged by a gang of thugs. You who think that the Right to Bear Arms is just about gun slinging, should read your history books and read about what has happened to crime where anti-gun movements have succeeded in disarming the Law Abiding Citizens. Look at what’s happened in Britain, Crime is up and now the weapon of choice are knives. So what’s your answer to that? Everyone should wear metal armor and walk around with shields? You liberal thinking people should be thankful that someone wants to bear arms. Someday it may save YOUR LIFE!

      • http://www.productivitysystems.com Steve Thompson

        …or take it!

        • kris

          You are an idiot. Go troll somewhere else.

        • Robin from Arcadia, IN

          Steve Thompson… If you are afraid of guns or feel like you don’t trust yourself with a concealed gun, by all means, avoid them! But for those who desire to ‘pack’, it is a right and it should not be taken away!

        • JIBBS

          Are you that stupid, you should be President of the Sheeple club. Don’t forget to bow to your king in washington each morning when you wake!!!

        • momplayer

          SOUNDS LIKE YOU’RE CONCERN IS BEING ON THE WRONG SIDE OF A GUN,MAYBE YOU SHOULD RE-ACCESS YOUR LIFE STYLE OR CHOICE OF EMPLOYMENT AND THEN ALL YOUR TROUBLES WILL JUST FLY AWAY.

      • independant thinker

        “Anyone who thinks that conceal carry with make people act like the “Old West” should see their doctor and have the tumbleweeds taken out of their brain.”

        The “Old West” was actually rather peaceful overall. Sure there were a few high profile shootouts but they were the exception not the norm. Another thing, at least one of those high profile shootouts was the everyday citizens protecting their town against a gang. The incident I refer to is the Dalton Gang raid on Coffeeville, Kansas where the citizens, using their personal firearms shot the Dalton gang to pieces protecting their town and banks.

    • CJ

      Winston, the only insanity is people thinking like you. Crooks and other law breakers BREAK THE LAW! They DON’T CARE about the law. How can anybody with a brain conclude that making more laws will reduce the problems. Apparantly, you are a bad guy hoping to take the guns out of the hands of law abiding people so you can make them a victim.

      • Aix Sponsa

        amen

        • Patty

          2nd that!

    • BOB

      Winston: Wake up and see the light If it was legal to openly carry a FIREARM there wouldnt be as many RAPES,MUGGINGS,ASSULTS, ETC as thereare now. THINK ABOUT IT is a criminal going to attack a person who the criminal can plainly see is armed and can shoot his worthless ass?. I think not if every home owner was armed and there was a sign in front of the home stating owner armed and will shoot there wouldnt be the home invasion roberys there are now. COMMON SENSE SAYS IF A CROOK THINKS HE MIGHT GET SHOT HE WILL GO WHERE HE FEELS HE WILL BE SAFE TO ROB

      • Aix Sponsa

        Kinda sorta. Open carry allows the criminal the upper hand in the situation, since he knows who you are, but not vice versa. If you happen to be open-one in a crowd, you will be the first to get hit, then the criminal will go about his business unhindered since he has just scared the bejesus out of everybody else. Just stating the facts from actual experiences. Now if EVERYBODY was open-carrying……. IMO everybody should be carrying concealed…. kinda like in Israel. Low face to face gun crime there, huh.

    • spitfire

      So Winston how much time did you spend in the Wild Wild West? I guess you did not like it much, because you could not do the crime. Damn, you must be a really old bugger! LOL Must be black too huh? How you gonna do da crime, when we is all carrying heat?

    • Jack Burton

      Winston is what is called a “flat earth” type person. There is an abundance of evidence from millions of legally carrying citizens over decades in dozens of states that prove his rants is totally baseless… but he make it anyway.

      • independant thinker

        It is also obvious little Winnie poo knows nothing about the old west except what he sees in Clint Eastwood and Sam Peckenpaw movies.

    • Ted

      Poor cowboys, even they, can’t escape liberal propaganda.

      Winston_I urge you to read up on what actually went on during the ‘Wild West’ days. The presumed ‘lawlessness’ perpetrated by trigger happy gunslingers that are frequently portrayed to be the norm, are largely myth. Romanticized by novelists and worst culprit of all, Hollywood. Historians, on the other hand, collectively and adamantly disagree. Cowboys, frontier men and early settlers simply never behaved that way. The fact that virtually every man and woman back then owned and carried firearms, is the reason why they survived to give this country the fighting chance to become the great nation it is today.

      • JC

        For sure it’s a myth. The more easily led among us were completely programmed by Hollywood to believe this crap. In it’s 6 year history, Dodge City saw only 6 shootings…all were by law enforcement.

    • Bill

      Its not up to you to offer restraint, if you chose not to carry that is your business, I refuse to be a target on the open streets, raised country and since living in your fowl cites I can tell you the most dangerous and vicious animals out there walk on 2 legs. I for one will carry, I have yet to fire a shot and I am very close to 60 years old, and carried all of my life, I credit a gun in my position as to having saved my life 3 times, One Mexican gang related, one someone trying to steal my car as I gave them a ride and one a drunk bent on violence. You have your choice to go unprotected, thing is us protected and you not, it my be one of us that saves your ass in a conflict some time, you never see them coming, if you do and you stay in the situation you are asking for the trouble. This decision to list gun owners and other information in the paper is stupid, what is This with Attorney General Lisa Madigan’s decision to make public the names and other personal information belonging to law-abiding gun owners in Illinois. She intentionally trying to make a target for theft of people who will protect them selves form criminals? Maybe she has family members whose life stile includes home break ins and theft and home invasion and she seeks to keep them save, What ever the reason this is a stupid law, why don’t we list the households in her area which don’t have house alarm systems and make over say a certain amount a year in the paper, give her details as well, like her home alarm code and times she is regularly away from home and list that in the paper, makes as much since. Lisa Madigan is a fool! If this is the what she sees as a Attorney General way of acting or the decision one would make she is not fit for the job. She should be ran out of office. As for you winston you cant count on a cop to ever be where you need one at the time you need one, I would rather protect myself and family then die waiting for a cop to show up, you know there presence is getting less and less and often is just not there. Good luck in the future. I will go into it armed. God help the one who try’s to take that defense away.

    • Average Joe

      One of my favorite quotes says it all:

      An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
      Robert A. Heinlein

    • Deano

      A little far fetched, dont you think so Winston?

    • http://yahoo sharon

      We have to protect all our rights, there are those who want to take them all away from us. I own guns and I can tell you that before I give my guns up they will have to take them out of my cold dead hands to get them. I don’t care what cry babies liberals socialists don’t like guns to bad, go live in China for all I care. This is the US we have the right to own guns, once they are taken away, so are all your other rights. Open your eyes to what is going on around you, if you don’t you are doomed. I will not live as a socialists or a communist either one, if that is what you want, your in the wrong country.

  • bill

    Is’s plain ……It’s simple …IF GUNS ARE OUTLAWED……ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS……..

    • http://yahoo sharon

      It will be our own government you will have to worry about, once they unarm Americans, they are free to do anything they want. The criminals will be the only one’s who will have guns, and frankly, I say to hell with that, I will never let them take my guns.

  • http://googl Lee

    I just can,t belive what is going on !!! Back in the 1950s the Prium Minester of Russia stated we are not afraide of the American milatery it is the guns you have at homes !!!! WW11 Each country that Hitler walked in to the countrymen had NO HOME OWNED GUNS !!! Looks to me you want to be under the russian Flag . or China Look at history of other no home owned guns . They all fell I say WISE CHECK UP ON HISTORY !! Yes times have changed Not that much as many countrys would like for us to fail and fall . Removeing the home owned gun is a vary vary large step in helping them to step in !!!

    • MARSHALL

      THE JAPS SAID THERE WAS A GUN BEHIND EVERY TREE

    • Aix Sponsa

      AMEN AMEN

    • Average Joe

      Just like the Japanese, Germans and Russians…Our government is afraid of us for the same reason….they can’t have a Coup d’état against the people as long as we are armed.

      The strongest reason for the people to retain their right
      to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect
      themselves against tyranny in government.
      Thomas Jefferson

      • Deano

        You hit the nail right on the head brother

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    i wouldnt want anyone to know if i had guns or not ,it is none of thier business.

    • Deano

      Your right , the less people know the better off you are

  • tim

    Like lee said, check the history on every country whose gov’t has disarmed them and you will see more crime and in most cases. Genocide by the gov’t!!!! Other countries, particularly the united nations would love to rule us as a one world order. Thier particular solution is thier excuse for a small arms treaty, which will be used to disarm us. The united nations is not our friend!!!!

    • Raymie

      Tim and other Real Americans…The UN can have my guns and the guns I am teaching my children to shoot…when they pry it from our cold dead hands…too bad they won’t have the guns to do it with…and any one that tries to remove my weapons I am obligated to by Constitution and Bill of Rights to remove them.

    • Deano

      AMEN

  • momplayer

    I wonder if this list is published if her name (madigan) will be at the top of the list as an avid gun collector?

    • Deano

      Illinois is the state that produced Obama & Rahm Immanuel, why should
      you be so suprised?

      • http://yahoo sharon

        Its Obama and those other morans that want to disarm America socialists and communists at their finest that is Obama and his band of communists. They want to make sure their is no resistance when they tear up our constitution, which is just what they plan on doing. Like I said they won’t get my at all.

  • B. Holmes

    Only evil ones do not want law abiding citizens to protect themselves.
    Crooks do not abide by gun laws or any other laws.

    • Deano

      Says it all

  • DaChief

    I was an LEO in a large Western city. The way we were able to change over to semi-autos was to advise the powers-to-be most ‘bad guys’ had them. To limit your police officers to 6-shot weapons would make the City liable for Officers being shot with a semi-auto. We received our semi-autos. Why is it that our pro-gun People do not point this fact out to state & Nat’l?
    DaChief

    • Aix Sponsa

      Agreed, sort of. FACT= Since LEOs started carrying 17 semi-autos, the number of missed shots percentage has gone WAY up. Sure I know that it is rare to ever have to shoot your weapon, so yes adrenalin/panic is real. Fact is, if you are faced with more than 2 armed assailants, TIME prevents your shooting more, especially if you are spraying ammo. Everyone realize, this is NOT the movies.

    • Deano

      Good point

  • Teresa

    WAKE UP, would you please. This is only another way for Gov. to play with American citizens to push us harder, to make us fight harder for OUR RIGHTS. They continue to violate every law in order to see how far they can push US to try to FORCE US to break ONE law while they try to justify them breaking numerous so they can justify them legally taking more of OUR rights away! While we continue to stand together and DEFEND and keep OUR voices heard LOUD and CLEAR, remember they ARE trying hard to disarm you and cause nothing but complete chaos!

    • http://yahoo sharon

      We must protect our right and you are right about that, if we don’t and turn the other way, they will take a lot more than your rights, Obama and his band of communists want total control over you all you have or hope to have and they will do anything to get it. I do mean anything, don’t put anything past them.

  • Patriot

    This is all about control by our elected and unelected officials, these people are slowing taking away all our liberties, it is time for us all to take a stand! You are either for the Constitution as written or you are not, if you are not, you should not be able to serve our country in any capacity. The only thing a liberal/progressive knows how to do is destroy. At this time, they have destroyed our currency, economy, energy independence, education, healthcare, etc. and now they want to destroy what’s left of our Constitution. Many of us know what is going on and where this current agenda is taking us, when are the rest of you going to wake up? When the currency collapse? If that happens, you will be looking for your neighbors with the guns for protection and a food source. I wonder will you be spewing this BS ideology at that time, going left is moving us towards Communism and/or total dictatorship, who in their right mind would want that? Do the citizens of China have guns? No! They live in total tyranny; we need guns to protect us from our own government! Wake up Sheeple!

    • http://yahoo sharon

      Your are right, without guns we are open to anything they want to do to us, and believe me they will, its already started, they are trying to disarm us, then take what freedom of speech they can, then next will be take down the constitution and make it illegal, them comes the commies and the borders will be opened and we will be attacked from everywhere. Just what Obama plans.

  • http://googl Lee

    There are people who should,nt owne a gun at the same time there are people who don,t need a drivers lic !! So what are we to say or do about that ?????????

    • Average Joe

      While I understand what you are saying, it is a slippery slope. Who makes those decisions? Where do we draw the line?…Once rights are denied to some, the door is open to take away more rights from others.
      I suggest prosecuting those who actually break the law (criminals) and leave the laws and Constitution alone….and let’s stop this molly coddling of criminals…..if they break into your home and get shot…too bad…they were involved in criminal mischief and got what they deserved…if they live…jail them, no lawsuits, no going after the homeowner that defended his home and family….just send the criminal to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200….If they don’t live,OH well. too frigging bad… bury them and that’s the end of it.

    • http://yahoo sharon

      Win some lose some, nothing is perfect, I would rather take my chances with the person who shouldn’t own the gun then the goverment who wants to take my guns, who has more power think about it.

  • Baba

    We American Citizens, by the Constitution, may bear arms. If anyone wants to change this, they can leave the United States and live where there is gun control. It is proven that those without any protection are at the mercy of those who do have weapons. That includes the Federal and State Governments. If Citizens are not allowed their rights to bear arms, will the Federal and State Governments not bear arms? Of course not. Madigan has head screwed on backwards. As for the “Wild West” theory, that is hogwash.

  • Mark Matis

    If that is the approach she is going to take, then it is time to make public the equivalent personal information for AG Madigan, all elected officials, and “Law Enforcement” in that state as well. Good for the goose, good for the gander. Or damn them to hell.

  • Joel

    I will die for our right to defend ourselves and I don’t even own a gun. NO ONE is going to do a damn thing about that. Live free or die! I am ready for anything and it’s all coming. Be prepared!!! Take action!!! This issue is more important than any other for Sates and this Nation. Never EVER surrender your guns or weapons…EVER!!!! Once the United Nations takes over the United States we’re doomed. This article says it all! GOD BLESS THE REAL PATRIOTS AND THEIR FAMILIES WHO ARE TAKING ACTION NOW AND THAT WILL FIGHT TO DELETE AND DEFEAT ANYONE WHO TRIES TO ACT LIKE OUR CONSTITUTION DOESN’T MEAN ANYTHING! For now, peacefully fight on, but know for sure that war is coming…right to your own front door.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Joel… Great post. Too many people are apathetic to what is happening right in front of them. It’s only a matter of time now. It will be like Noah and the Ark. People laughed at him, but when the rain came they finally ‘got it’….

    • http://yahoo sharon

      Its time then to start fighting, the constitution doesn’t mean a thing to Obama, and his band of commies czars, all they want to do is what they please, Obama keeps making laws without consent of the congress or the senate, and they haven’t even tried to stop him. Its time we started to fight back.

  • American Citizen

    It;s time for a regime change.

  • spitfire

    Not only is it a time for a regime change, it is time for the shooting to begin, and let the blood run in the streets. Its our history to fight and die for what we believe in, and why the world as a whole fears us the most.
    Funny though I see most of you hiding under the table or in the closet.

    • http://yahoo sharon

      To start shooting without organizatin is stupid, who are you going after? think before you act, or you become a terrorists yourself. I agree we must do something but to just start shooting isn’t what I had in mind. There is power in numbers, people must organize than they have power to fight back. March, in record numbers

  • BOB

    IF YOU WANT TO RETAIN THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS AS THE SECOND AMENDANDT STATES REMEMBER HOW YOUR CONGRESSMAN,REPRESENTATIVE,SENATORS AND ALL OTHER GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS FEEL ABOUT THIS RIGHT AND NEXT LOCAL,STATE AND FEDERAL ELECTION VOTE ONLY FOR THOSE CANDIDATES WHO ARE FOR THE RIGHTS AH STATED IN THE BILL OF RIGHTS AND ONLY THOSE WHO ARE PRO SECOND AMENDMENT.ONLY THE PEOPLE AT LARGE WHO HAVE COMMON SENSE AND THE GONADS TO VOTE AGAINST THE SARAH BRADYS AND OTHER ANTI GUNNERS CAN PROTECT OUR RIGHTS THAT OUR SOLDIERS HAVE DIED TO PROTECT FOR THE PAST TWO HUNDRED YEARS

  • spitfire

    Get the hell out of hiding and start acting like real Americans.No one owns US, and we are willing to die in order to show them. Our government does not own us, it only dreams about that condition,but we own it. Now we need to teach it who is the real owner of what.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Spitfire… Your posts are passionate, but taking to the streets is going to be tough enough when it does happen, let alone prematurely… I don’t want to see what is happening in Libya happen here. Who even knows who’s fighting for what over there? I am sure when push comes to shove that you will see many stand and fight. We just need to be clear on the issues before it all happens…

      • Southern Patriot

        Robin from Arcadia: You are right about not starting before the starting bell. But what will be the starting bell? I saw on the news today where federal marshals were shot serving a warrant and the swat team came in and killed the shooter. Now when I hear that I think “he must have done something really bad” and the news reporter enhances that theory. The truth is, he may just have been one of the thousands + of patriots that spoke out against something or someone. So those incidents did not trigger the patriots to take action. I feel sure this happens many times daily in this country. When will we know that thay are coming for “me” or “you”? The news media will just make us the evil people. Have any of you ever thought about what would be the real trigger to start a national citizen armed uprising? They will be sneaky; they communicate very well; they are perfectly organized and trained; in most cases they have no scruples.
        So how will we know when it IS TIME?
        All the patriots that believe in the Constitution and deplore a government that doesn’t are poorly organized, have practically no communications with like minded patriots; and would most likely act like panicked chickens when the fox got in the chicken house. Going in all directions with no common objective. There has to be a way to solve that issue. But what is it?

        • Deano

          Good question, people need to pay attention & be informed. Too many
          people vote for people that they know nothing about their past stand on
          issues they care about, like gun rights. The main stream press will never tell us the truth. We have to know when to be ready.

  • Don L

    I carry a gun to protect myself, my family, my property, other law bidding citizens whom are in danager of being harmed, other persons property. This is the only reason I carry a gun. Some people just don’t get it. Why would anyone tell me I can’t carry a gun if I am productive, responsible citizen who works hard to make a living and enjoys all the toys I own, ie, home, boat, motorcycle, travel trailer, etc. I carry a gun so if needed to I would use it to protect all I have stated in the message. Gun control freaks, wake up and realize that if you get your way only the bad guys will have guns and we all will be doomed.

    • http://yahoo sharon

      There are those in the government who think you shouldn’t have that right, Obama and his band of communists for one. They are out to take down the constitution and they don’t want anyone trying to stop them, meaning gun owners. They must unarm America to do what they planned to do, take our rights away from us. Everyone thinks that Obama is great now because of the Ben Landen killing, Obama used that to bring himself back, the government knew where he was for the last few years, Obama just waited until he could be usefull and he was. Don’t underestimate Obama in anyway. His true goal is to take down the US goverment.

  • http://none Phil

    just another way to decrease the surplus population i.e. people who believe in our Constitutional heritage.

    • JC

      What?

  • patrick

    The Old West, YES!!! I’m all for it. I would just love to be able to round up a Posse of other gun rights people and march on Washington. I think our first stop would be at the Whitehouse, ya all know the dude who is stinking the place up, Obammy boy, he would be targeted as the first one to be thrown out on the streets waiting for his deportation back to Kenya. Next stop maybe the DOJ and we could rustle up Holder and other illegals and throw them out on the streets, they too waiting for deportation back to Africa. Then we will search out Janet napilatano, Barney Frank, Pelosi, Reid, Axlerod, well you kinda get the picture huh? Are you ready to sign up for the Posse? Better hurry spots are filling up fast.

    • Wim Vonk

      When i read stuff like this I am glad that i do not live in the US. Unfortunately my two daughters do. However I met lots of nice people who do not all think like you when i was visiting last week. And your facts on Obama are wrong. So his father was Kenyan, does that make him a criminal or something. Just judge him on his record.

      • momplayer

        I think most AMERICANS have and decided he sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • http://personalliberty.com RandyH

        Wim Vonk? What the hell is that? We HAVE judged him on his record. Stay wherever you are and call your daughters back if they think the same way you do.

      • Bill

        You need to stay where you are, let your government protect you. We here are free. Well as much as the dam Liberals and others who have not passed laws to limit that freedom, We protect our selves, you get to pee in your pants when a bad guy comes to take what is in your home, If your lucky you live, and you live with what they did to you and your family, console and comfort them and tell them again you could do nothing, We on the other hand can. See crimes happens here too, just we get lucky enough to be able to protect our selves and once criminals fear this more as more criminals end up dead. I am sorry for you being in a country where you are not allowed to own guns to protect yourself, I have never been to one of these country’s, tell me how does if feel to exist there? I mean to be a serf or slave to all above you, do they demand use of your daughters and wife? just how bad is it to be from a unprotected country I mean where you are unprotected, where the government can come in and do with you as they will? Yes I would get your daughters out of America they may bring home Ideas of freedom and then where would you be? As for Obummer, the ass in the white house, our last 2 years have shown more money wastefully spent then all the presidents before combined, he has destroyed our dollar, he attempts to destroy our Constitution and country, we have many good black Americans in government even Congress and Senate but Obummer has proven to be but a rampaging destroying lying Muslim Socialist Kenya born (offensive word removed). One of our greatest accomplishments in our Country’s history will be to remove him from office and as quickly as possible, I feel we need to bring charges of treason up on him and after the trial complete the sentence as law requires for Treason during war. On thinking of this if your daughters are here and living off us Americans please take them home it is not up to us to feed or care for them! I’m tired of supplying free handouts to other nations, the Mexicans have soured me on this one! Another of Obummers accomplishments.

      • JC

        Wim by this and other posts has proven he is a completely pussified Euro-Liberal. He might make a good Sous Chef or Cat Groomer, but I wouldn’t count on his kind to have the stones to defend his own daughters oranyone else for that matter. Why didn’t you stay in civilized Europe?

      • Deano

        Yes, the Constitution says you have to be an american citizen to be
        president, period.

    • http://yahoo sharon

      There are always fools in every crowd, lots of them isn’t there. It sure sound good to me however, but get real, we need a real plan a march on washington, something big something Washington will wake up to.

  • circle8

    This is not gun control it is VICTIM DISARMAMENT. If you have unarmed victims then the criminal element (Illinois politicians and their friends) can control the citizens of Illinois.

    Note to WIM VONK. Your father birth place does not make you a criminal but your actions and those of your associates do and this man is a criminal.

  • circle8

    Wim Vonk. You should go to a library and check out John Toland’s book, Adolf Hitler, Vol 1 and read it. Go to pages about 95 through 300 and you will see the blueprint that obama is following. This man is the same type of person as Hitler. He is surrounding himself with the same type of people. No they are not going to set up extermination camps because they will control the amount and types of people by providing or withholding medical services and by other means. This will remove anyone who would be a burden on the “Country of obama”. Hitler arrived on the scene as “hope and change” and those who followed him found out what he was like way too late. Ask those who lived it as my family did. We in the USA are experiencing a repeat of 1933 on. Your daughters are living here for a reason. Was it because they wanted to live under a Marxist or were they here before george soros bought the 2008 election and now we have a Marxist Muslim president who intends to destroy America.

    • Deano

      Sir, you do know your history

      • http://yahoo sharon

        Wrong he does know it, try reading yourself

    • http://yahoo sharon

      There are so many really ignorant people in the US that really think Obama is some kind of God, they are blind,deaf,and really stupid. Obama is dangerous to America and its people, very dangerous. He is backed by foreign money, Soros and people like him who hate America and want to see it fall. Obama will push and keep pushing, until he gets what he wants. A communist America, Obama wants to be its first dictator president which he plans to be. His czars plan on a complete takedown and a place in the sun when Obama shuts it down. Our dollar is already being taken completely down and world currency in its place, which means a world goverment next, wake up America it is already happening behind our backs as we speak. Clinton is part of it, she is a socialists and always has been, she wants nothing more than a socialists goverment herself with a place in the sun like Obama and his band of communists czars

  • laacea

    All they want to do is take our guns. All I have to say about that is when they come to take them they better bring plenty of body bags! They can take it when Im dead!

    • Southern Patriot

      To laacea: I am really afraid it won’t be that simple. It might go something like this. “Daddy, there is a Sheriff deputy at the door and he want to talk to you”. You go to the door and he starts out really polite asking you your name and some other non-threatening questions. After an appropriate amount of time and other small talk he tells you that you are under arrest for “…”. You may slam the door before he can’cuff you but he just goes back to his car in your driveway and calls for backup. In 15-20 minutes a black armored car looking vehicle shows up and men in SWAT gear start pouring out of it and surrounding your house. In a few seconds you hear a window break behind you and a flash bang and/or other tear gas starts exploding throughout the house. Within seconds every door is broken in and you are looking down the barrels of M16′s. If you had already taken the time to get your firearm(s) you may get off a shot or two and even hit an armor clad SWAT member or two probably doing little harm. Within 3 seconds you are bleeding out on your own floor. Your wife, children, significant other ….. where are they?
      What would one actually do? We have been trained to accept that law enforcement are the good guys so we are not immediately on alert to minor incidents that could quickly esculate to the point of no return. I’m not saying that you should not resist; I’m saying you need to plan mentally, physically and tactically for such an event. But how? That’s what we patriots all need to think about!

      • Deano

        Your right, every patriot should think like you. Remember there is strength in numbers. The law has only a limited number of people to do this work.

        • http://yahoo sharon

          Think numbers I agree, that is the only way we will beat those communists

  • circle8

    Remember VICTIM DISARMAMENT means criminals will control society. All criminals whether those who serve as elected officials or those who are street scumbags. But then is there a difference?????? I don’t see any difference.

  • Alex

    The Second Amendment clearly designates a “well-regulated militia”, not a bunch of morons running around with guns.

    When will you troglodytes admit that the Constitution really means nothing to you and that the Second Amendment is a cloak for your fear?

    • independant thinker

      You do know don’t you that you are part of the militia Alex. The militia is “all able bodied men between 16 and 47″ with eaqual rights that would also include women and people over 47 because they have not been excluded since eaqual rights was passed.

      The militia, when called, is expected to show up with a firearm suitable for use with ammunition for said firearm. The only way this can happen is if all private citizens own and have in their immediate posession a functioning firearm.

    • http://personalliberty.com RandyH

      The only reason those cave dwellers didn’t have guns is because there weren’t none then. But they had big ol’ clubs didn’t they?

    • Southern Patriot

      Alex, I don’t think the guys at Concord would appreciate your calling them a bunch of morons! (You know the shot heard ’round the world).

      Oh, lets see now; they were defending their freedom from excess taxation and a ruler that said you will obey my orders whether you like it or not.

      Whole different situation. … or is it?

    • Bill

      Alex please ask your local police how long from a 911 call it will take them even on a good day to respond to your call, now figure a home invasion, you married, got kids, you care about there protection, you know more and more crime is happening in America, home invasions becoming more prevalent, and protecting your family is a major concern, If you are afraid of guns may I suggest a stun gun or pepper spray or a large dog to do the work for you, don’t worry maybe your neighbor is armed and hearing a ruckus will rescue you. but I for one Will be armed especially in today’s world. Its a lot more dangerous out there today then I think even in our Wild West all you anti gunners keep singing about. Or better yet you have a problem just crawl under the bed and hide your head I’m sure it will be just fine. Those with guns kept the Japs from attacking our main land by just the knowledge we had them in our homes by the Japs, other nations fit there too. See I don’t think you have the since to drive a car but that don’t give me the right to try to make it imposable for you to own a car or drive and you stand a lot larger chance of harming me with your car then I do with my guns Unless you break into my home or assault me in the streets.

    • JC

      Alex says:
      March 9, 2011 at 1:08 pm
      The Second Amendment clearly designates a “well-regulated militia”, not a bunch of morons running around with guns.

      When will you troglodytes admit that the Constitution really means nothing to you and that the Second Amendment is a cloak for your fear?
      ___________________________________________________________

      I see you conveniently leave out the part that says “The RIGHT of the PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED”…and then you go on to call everyone morons. Just another arrogant, frightened of his own shadow, liberal moron…but hey, Thanks for coming out. :)

  • 45caliber

    One thing not brought out in the article:

    How do they know all that data about the gun owners?

    By Federal law no one in the government is supposed to keep a record of gun owners or purchasers. A dealer has to fill out some papers on the gun owner and call for verification of no criminal background but then he is to keep those papers subject to some special search. But ALL the names of all gun owners in Illinois are to be released. Who there is breaking the law?

    My, my, my. A government breaking the law. Perhaps the gun owners might wish to sue to correct that problem.

    • independant thinker

      Probably an Illinois law that requires registration of at least certain classes of firearms.

    • Average Joe

      I know that you don’t actually believe the government when it says that they don’t keep those records…Right? You can tell they are lying…when they open their mouths…they have been lying to us since the beginning of time and have no plans to stop lying anytime soon (if ever). The question is, are we smart enough to realize it?

  • lovemycountry

    I’m wondering how well these gunn-grabbers speak farsi or another dialect

  • JimH

    Here in Il. if I have the audacity to equipt myself to protect myself from a criminal, I am as much a felon as the mugger, robber, rapist, or any other thug who wants to attack me. My crime? Illegal use of a weapon.
    Is it better for society if we just ALLOW ourselves to be robbed, raped or killed?
    Our illustrius Governor thinks so.
    It just seems his cause is one I’m not willing to die for. I know the voters who put him in are already dead(Chicago cemetary vote), so it might not matter to them.
    I hope something good happen because of this rally, but I’m not holding my breath.

    • Southern Patriot

      There is also always the question, stand and fight to your death for a cause you believe in; or submit temporarily and “live to fight another day” when perhaps the odds are better.

      • Aix Sponsa

        AMEN Brother. Few people realize that dying unnecessarily brings no victory nor honor. They who prevail are the victors.

  • Infidel

    Winston has no idea about Firearms,just a talker who has never been
    a Walker!

  • Robert

    Gun grabbers ignore facts, don’t bother debating with them. I guess I’m a “moron” as the one poster said for not relying on the police to prevent bad things happening to me or my loved ones. Oh, I forgot, the cops will be there in minutes when seconds count. When they can’t win on facts they start name calling and dreaming up stuff. God bless America.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      robert,
      I give the cops in my town credit for trying. It is physically impossible for them to be everywhere at all times!!! They need help from time to time. therefore my gun and my house are “helped”!

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      The cops, for the most part, do a good job, when they can. But they can’t be everywhere, all the time. Normally they just end up drawing the chalk line around your dead body. The Old West cowtowns and mining camps, like Abeline and Deadwood, didn’t hold a candle to the day to day violence in our major cities today. Don’t believe it, take a drive through the Hood in Detroit or any major town. It’s not even safe in broad daylight !
      If someone wants to feel enlightened by being anti-gun maybe they should discuss their families saftey with them. Maybe the spouse and kids put a higher value on their lives. One only has to look at the family massacre in Conn. last year to realize what can happen. The report was that the cops were parked outside while the family was being raped and slaughtered. Dirty Harry, where are you ?
      If society ever breaks down you’d better be able to protect yourself and your family or the barbarians will have you for supper.

  • Bear

    God, I love these blogs. It never ceases to amaze me how many people have a complete lack of knowledge about firearms and their owners. This should be easy to understand. “Seek ye the truth and it shall set you free.”

    “All that is given is given by your heavenly father that no man shall have the power to restrict or take away.”

    So, if you can understand these words, you know that it is God that has given your life freedoms and not some congress or Presidential executive order. Yet, there are men that will attempt to go against God’s will and intent and try to restrict and even take away that which God has given to all of us. Each of us must decide for ourselves how much we cherish what God has given us and decide what we are willing to do to keep it. Our Constitution and our Bill of Rights, in large, merely confirms to us what God has already given us and it gives us a document to be the law of the land to defend what God has given us. If we choose not to use these documents to defend those blessings, we are the fools.

  • Aix Sponsa

    “God feeds the birds of the air, but HE doesn’t drop the worms in their mouths.”

  • Zak

    Gun control is not, nor has ever been, about guns, it’s about control.

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      Zak: you are 100% correct. It’s about Control; Big Gvt’s Control of it’s citizens. If we surrender our firearms willingly we will deserve what’s coming. Stand up for your God given Rights and let no one take them away. We owe it to our ancestors and we owe it to our decendents.

  • Average Joe

    I feel that anyone who’s name and information is released for public viewing shoud file a lawsuit against Attorney General Lisa Madigan for invasion of privacy. While the Constitution does not specifically guarantee this right, the Supreme Court has consistantly ruled that it is guaranteed under the law.

    The idea of a right to privacy was first addressed within a legal context in the United States. Louis Brandeis (later a Supreme Court justice) and another young lawyer, Samuel D. Warren, published an article called ‘The Right to Privacy’ in the Harvard Law Review in 1890 arguing that the constitution and the common law allowed for the deduction of a general “right to privacy”.[5] Their project was never entirely successful, and the renowned tort expert Dean Prosser argued that “privacy” was composed of four separate torts, the only unifying element of which was a (vague) “right to be left alone.”[6] These elements were

    1.appropriating the plaintiff’s identity for the defendant’s benefit
    2.placing the plaintiff in a false light in the public eye
    3.publicly disclosing private facts about the plaintiff
    4.unreasonably intruding upon the seclusion or solitude of the plaintiff

    I believe that numbers 2 and 3 apply in this case and that these people would have a winable case against her.

  • Arsenal of Democracy

    BETRAYAL–THIS IS HOW THE RINOS WORK. BOENER IS BRINGING OBAMA HEALTHCARE BILL WITH SECRET ADDED FUNDING OF A PERMANENT $105BIL ADDED. CALL 1-202 224 3121 TO STOP “CONTINUEING RESOLUTION”.
    This bill will be introduced March 14, 2011. Mark Levine says this is now the Obama/Boener Healthcare bill. Call your congressman and all the others you can reach. This is how Americans are betrayed and you have to be aware and active so that you do not have to use your dry powder–then it is too late. Now goooooooooooooooo!!!!!

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    I wonder that, it were possible, to interview violent crime victims and their families if they still believe that people should’nt be allowed to carry guns.

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