Gun Haters Continue To Vilify Zimmerman, Gun Owners, Stand Your Ground Despite Jury Acquittal

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The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence has become the latest American anti-gun group to exploit the tragic death of Florida teen Trayvon Martin in order to undermine Americans’ 2nd Amendment rights.

The organization has released a deceptive online advertisement complete with a “reenactment” of the night Martin was killed, in an effort to abolish Stand Your Ground laws throughout the Nation.

An accompanying petition on the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence website reads:

The traditional presumption in the law—from the advent of the Hebrew Bible through the creation of Roman law, English common law, and American law—has been that if you could spare human life, it was incumbent upon you to do so.

With “Stand  Your Ground” (aka “Shoot First”) laws, the National Rifle Association (NRA) and its partners in the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) have turned 3,000 years of jurisprudence on its head. Now you can provoke a fight, and if losing that fight, kill the person you attacked.

The NRA’s laws represent a dangerous and unprecedented escalation in the use of force in the public space, allowing individuals to kill when they merely fear “great bodily harm” (i.e., a fistfight, shoving match, etc.). The concept of responding with proportional force has been obliterated. Additionally, “Stand Your Ground” laws remove the duty to retreat from a conflict in public, allowing individuals to shoot and kill even when they could otherwise walk away safely from an altercation.

Neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman was acquitted of any wrongdoing in Martin’s death by a jury of his peers last month.

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  • ONTIME

    I would say that the politicians that support this drivel put out by these hate mongers need to refuse their own tax paid security….first.

    • fred37ify

      You obviously ain’t very bright – are ya boy ???

      • Average_Joe56

        OOPS….your bad…..
        Next time you should probably bring an argument….rather than your bigoted rants…..just a thought…..

    • Barakolips

      Yea, Trayvon was on him and he got smoked ,live with it racist!

      • Average_Joe56

        What color is the sky? What color is it….in your world?

        “To be matter-of-fact about the world is to blunder into fantasy – and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful.”
        Robert A. Heinlein

      • Barakolips

        You keep using FATASS do describe whites, why don’t you just call them crackers like you do to your friends dumbass.

    • Barakolips

      Yea, Trayvon was on him and he got smoked ,live with it racist!

    • Kim Sylvest

      so because he got out of his car, he deserves to be beaten? you moron!

    • Kim Sylvest

      so because he got out of his car, he deserves to be beaten? you moron!

    • Kim Sylvest

      we’re bigots because we think a person has the right to defend themselves against violence?

    • Frank Kahn

      FIRST OF ALL, CALLING ZIMMERMAN FAT IS A GRATUITOUS ATTEMPT AT DEMEANING HIS CHARACTER DUE TO PHYSICAL APPEARANCE. AND CALLING HIM A POS IS WRONG, THE TRUE POS WAS THAT BLACK THUG THAT ATTACKED HIM. IF YOU ARE SO STUPID THAT YOU THINK EXITING YOUR VEHICLE WARRANTS A BEAT DOWN, DRIVE ON OVER.

      • Frank Kahn

        So many insane hateful posts in such a short time. And you either have no concept of reality or you love to lie every time.

        “Fatass demeaned himself just fine on his own, genius. The POS was the MURDERER that YOU worship. ”

        THERE WAS NO MURDER, READ THE FINDINGS OF THE COURT, IT WAS SELF DEFENSE

        “I would attack a stalker, child molester/abductor too. ”

        AND YOU WOULD BE GUILTY OF A CRIME JUST LIKE MARTIN. THERE WAS NO STALKING AND NO MURDER. ZIMMERMAN IS NOT A RAPIST OR CHILD MOLESTER. YOUR PERSONAL OPINION OF WHAT THE PERSON MIGHT BE DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO ASSAULT SOMEONE.

        “What, he should have waited until he was raped and murdered to fight back??? ”

        HE SHOULD HAVE USED NORMAL REASON TO ASSESS THE SITUATION. HE SHOULD HAVE GONE INSIDE THE HOME WHERE HE WAS STAYING. INSTEAD OF CALLING HIS ILLITERATE GIRLFRIEND HE COULD HAVE CALLED 911. HE DID NOTHING RIGHT. THE MAN WATCHING HIM WAS NOT INTENT ON RAPING A LARGE BLACK MAN. THIS WAS NOT A CASE OF A SMALL TEENAGED BOY BEING HARASSED BY A LARGE THREATENING WHITE MAN.

        “Well, why couldn’t the fatass wait for the kid to actually commit a crime before murdering him??? ”

        IF MARTIN HAD NOT BRUTALLY ATTACKED ZIMMERMAN, ZIMMERMAN WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED HIM IN SELF DEFENSE. THERE WAS NO MURDER. AND ZIMMERMAN DID WAIT TILL MARTIN COMMITTED A CRIME, HE WAITED TILL HE WAS ATTACKED.

        “HYPOCRITE.”

        YOU APPEAR TO LOVE THE WORD HYPOCRITE, DO YOU KNOW THE MEANING, BECAUSE YOU ARE USING IT INCORRECTLY HERE.

        • Frank Kahn

          Being of Jewish descent, I object to your Hitler remark. There is nothing in my support of the facts that would be considered to be Hitler like behavior.

          The first criminal action was perpetrated by Martin, when he violently attacked Zimmerman. This makes Zimmerman the victim of the crime not Martin. The fact that Martin was black has no bearing on the case.

          • Frank Kahn

            YOU NEED TO LEARN THE LESSON TAUGHT IN A SONG. YOU DON’T MESS AROUND WITH SOMEONE UNLESS YOU WANT TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.

            “The hate yr showing for the kid”

            I HATE BIGOTRY AND RACISM, SINCE MARTIN WAS BOTH I AM AGAINST HIM.

            “and support yr showing for an unlawful, unwarranted and bigoted aggressor is much like Hitler invading Poland. He claimed he need to invade them to “protect” Germany when the whole thing was a set up by Hitler and his cronies to give them an excuse for
            aggression. ”

            WRONG ANALOGY, I AM MORE CLOSELY SUPPORTING THE NUKING OF JAPAN BECAUSE OF THEIR, UNPROVOKED, ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR. IN YOUR ANALOGY, HITLER WAS THE ORIGINAL AGGRESSOR, IN MINE JAPAN WAS THE ORIGINAL AGGRESSOR AND WE RESPONDED, JUST AS MARTIN WAS THE ORIGINAL AGGRESSOR AND ZIMMERMAN RESPONDED.

            “Zimmerman claimed he had to profile, stalk and murder to “protect” himself ”

            ZIMMERMAN DID NONE OF THE ABOVE, IT IS THE RACISTS THAT ARE CLAIMING THAT THIS HAPPENED. HE DID NO RACIAL PROFILING, NO STALKING, AND THERE WAS NO MURDER.

            “when HE in fact was well protected and out of harm’s
            way in his own car. Are you claiming the kid went to his car? ”

            THE TESTIMONY, THE EVIDENCE, THE LOCATION OF THE ALTERCATION ALL PROVE THAT MARTIN DID FOLLOW ZIMMERMAN BACK TO HIS VEHICLE. WELL, ANYWAY, THE ALTERCATION TOOK PLACE AT ZIMMERMAN’S VEHICLE, SO IF YOU CONTEND THAT HE LEFT THAT LOCATION TO STALK MARTIN, THEN YES MARTIN FOLLOWED HIM BACK.

            “Or dragged him out of his car? I am a fan of guns, self defense and Stand Your Ground but NONE of that applies to an aggressor ”

            HERE WE HAVE A COMPREHENSION PROBLEM WITH YOU.

            “ag·gres·sor [uh-gres-er] Show IPA

            noun

            a person, group, or nation that attacks first or initiates hostilities; an assailant or invader. ”

            TO LABEL ZIMMERMAN AS THE AGGRESSOR, YOU HAVE TO CLAIM THAT FOLLOWING MARTIN WAS THE INITIATION OF HOSTILITIES. TO SUPPORT THAT CLAIM YOU MUST PUT FORTH AN ANTI-WHITE RACIST THOUGHT PROCESS THAT MAKES A WHITE MAN FOLLOWING A BLACK MAN A REASON TO COMMIT VIOLENCE.

            “and its mindboggling to me that anyone could defend this pig’s actions. ”

            YES, IT IS MIND BOGGLING TO BELIEVE THAT ANYONE CAN DEFEND THAT WORTHLESS BLACK CRIMINALS ILLEGAL ASSAULT ON A WHITE MAN.

            “The kids’ ethnicity applies because Zimmerman NEVER followed whites. He also said “they”, not “this guy” meaning he was generalizing all blacks.”

            LETS DISPENSE WITH THE LIBERAL TIPTOEING HERE. PROFILING IS A GOOD THING IN CRIME PREVENTION. IF A NEIGHBORHOOD IS INUNDATED WITH BLACK GANG VIOLENCE YOU DON’T KEEP TABS ON WHITE PEOPLE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KEEP TABS ON BLACKS. THIS IS NOT RACIAL PROFILING, IT IS CRIMINAL PROFILING. IF THERE HAVE BEEN NO CRIMES BY WHITE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA, YOU DON’T EXPECT WHITE PEOPLE TO COMMIT THE NEXT ONE. IN ZIMMERMAN’S NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE HAD BEEN A RASH OF CRIMES, COMMITTED BY YOUNG BLACK MEN. THIS MAKES THE PRESENCE OF AN UNIDENTIFIED BLACK MAN, WHO IS WANDERING AROUND AT NIGHT SUSPECT. ALSO, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE WERE NO YOUNG WHITE MEN WANDERING AROUND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR ZIMMERMAN TO FOLLOW. YOUR ASSUMPTION THAT “THEY”
            MEANT BLACKS IS NOT SUPPORTED BY LOGIC. THE “THEY” HE WAS MEANING WAS JUST AS LIKELY TO BE “THE CRIMINALS” AS IT WAS “BLACKS”. PLUS, “THIS GUY” ALWAYS GETS AWAY, WOULD NOT MAKE ANY SENSE.

            MARTINS RACE (NOT ETHNICITY) ONLY APPLIES, BECAUSE MARTIN USED RACE IN HIS DECISION TO ATTACK ZIMMERMAN.

          • Frank Kahn

            You are a lying sack of bull crap.

            “FACT: the kid committed ZERO crimes. ”

            FACT: TRAYVON MARTIN COMMITTED THE CRIME OF FELONY AGGRAVATED ASSAULT.

            “he was walking. ”

            HE FOLLOWED ZIMMERMAN BACK TO HIS VEHICLE AND JUMPED HIM, THROWING HIM TO THE GROUND AND POUNDED HIS FACE WITH HIS FIST.

            “Zimmerman, Stalked and attacked and then MURDERED ”

            NOT ONE SHRED OF FACT IN THIS STATEMENT, THERE WAS NO STALKING, HE DID NOT ATTACK MARTIN AND THE DEATH WAS THE RESULT OF SELF DEFENSE NOT MURDER.

            “ALL of which he freely admitted”

            NON OF WHICH ANYONE WITH A SINGLE BRAIN CELL THINKS HE ADMITTED.

            YOU ARE THE WORST TYPE OF LIBERAL DUNG HEAD, YOU DONT DESERVE THE RIGHT TO EVEN SPEAK. YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF NORMAL HUMAN REASON.

    • Ron

      where was abortion when your mother was carrying you??

      • Average_Joe56

        “Spoken like a true Libtard. Don’t actually bring any facts, just act like immoral, hateful, lying scum.”

        Hmmm…talking t yourself now?….oh ….sorry….still talking to yourself…my bad…..

        You must lead a pretty pathetic life…..seems all you have time for is….hate….that’s so sad……you really are PATHETIC……

        Never insult anyone by accident.
        Robert A. Heinlein

        • Average_Joe56

          Who here is cheering about a murder? According to the trial, it was a case of self defense. But hey, don’t let actual facts get in the way of your bigoted rants…..

    • adbj102

      Next time a cop chases you, you tell him that!

      • adbj102

        And the rest are just plain garden variety bullies!

  • jim_wright

    This is total BS from a leftist group with no real idea what they are talking about. They RIGHT to self defense is as old as human life. Do some real research and you will find that to be true. By the way, the Bible does not tell you to allow someone to hurt you or your family. That is a liberal idea.

    • sootsme

      So Trayvon had more right to walk around in that neighborhood than George? BS! The fact is that George had more right to defend himself against physical violence, initiated by Trayvon, than Trayvon had to begin assaulting him when he started the physical assault. If you truly believe otherwise, next time someone starts trying to split your melon on the sidewalk, I suggest you just shut the f^&@# up and live with it. That is exactly what you expected of George, and he rightly wasn’t having any. He must be one of those durn real Americans or something… For my money, we need more of ‘em…

      • Average_Joe56

        ” If you don’t want yr (sic)ass beat, don’t pick a fight.”
        Someone should have told Trayvon…he might have gone home that night…but alas…he didn’t get the message and it cost him his life.

      • Jeff

        Let him drive your son to school and hope they don’t argue over music.

    • Frank Kahn

      NOPE, HE DID NOT ADMIT TO ANY OF THOSE THINGS, IT IS ALL IN YOUR LIBERAL BLINDED MIND. THERE WAS NO ASSAULT ON THE BLACK THUG, HE ASSAULTED ZIMMERMAN.

      • Frank Kahn

        Find me a conservative that thinks that Zimmerman racially profiled and then murdered Martin. If you want a list of names of Liberals that do, I can provide you with a very long one.

        • Average_Joe56

          We already know that you are a liar and a moron.

          So, when you claim to be something….we already know that you aren’t telling the truth.

          “You are a lying hateful bigoted hypocritical neo-con.”
          Such vitriol…how pathetic….
          Self loathing, still?

        • Frank Kahn

          ACTUALLY, YOU ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING A CONSERVATIVE IN YOUR POSTS, EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS LIBERAL BS. I ASKED FOR NAMES OF TRUE CONSERVATIVES THAT SUPPORT YOUR INSANE DIATRIBE, NOT SOME GENERAL STATEMENT THAT YOU HAVE CONSERVATIVE FRIENDS THAT AGREE WITH YOU.

          WHEN IT COMES TO HATRED, YOUR VITRIOL IS PROOF OF YOUR EXTREME HATRED OF THE WHITE RACE AND ZIMMERMAN IN PARTICULAR.

          NEOCON WOULD NOT DESCRIBE ME AS I ADHERE TO MY CONSERVATIVE VALUES IN ALL MATTERS OF MORALITY.

          • Frank Kahn

            IT IS YOU THAT IS SPEWING FORTH MASSIVE HATRED HERE NOT ME. YOU ARE SO BIGOTED AND RACIST AGAINST WHITES THAT YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF HUMAN THOUGHT. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO YOUR OPINION, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE AS STUPID AS YOU WANT. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIE FROM NOW UNTIL YOU DIE IN A FEW SHORT MONTHS. BUT YOUR LIES, AND OPINION WILL NOT CHANGE THE FACTS, NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU TRY TO SAY IT IS TRUE, IT WILL STILL BE BALD FACED LIES.

          • Frank Kahn

            I have not lied one time in this exchange. I have simply reiterated the facts that were shown in the trial.

            Your statements show a hatred of whites, you think that all whites should be punished for making blacks feel scared. You think that blacks are superior to whites, and have the right to commit crimes against anyone that is white. A black man can’t be guilty of being a criminal aggressor against a white man, that makes no sense to you.

            Change the players, what would Jesus say to Trayvon? I saw you viciously attack that poor Christian man without cause, why did you attack your God? Remember, what you do to the least of Gods children, you do to God. Jesus never advocated allowing evil to win.

          • Frank Kahn

            LOOK UP PATHOLOGICAL, YOU MIGHT FIND THE DEFINITION INTERESTING.

            “You are either a pathological LIAR or so hopelessly bigoted and hateful that you think normal people
            think like you which thankfully, isn’t remotely true.”

            ACTUALLY MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE THE FACTS AS BEING THE TRUTH, AS OPPOSED TO YOUR BELIEF THAT YOUR EMOTIONAL OPINION IS THE TRUTH.

            “Heres a lie(thanks fr the confirmation even tho 90% of yr drivel repeatedly points out that the kid was a “black thug” not a “thug.”): ”

            MAYBE YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND ENGLISH. A LIE IS AN UNTRUTH. I SUBMIT THAT MARTIN WAS IN FACT BLACK, HE ALSO ACTED LIKE A THUG WHEN HE ATTACKED ZIMMERMAN. SO HE WAS A BLACK THUG. THAT IS NOT A LIE, IT IS A COMBINATION OF TWO TRUE STATEMENTS. IDENTIFYING HIS ACTUAL RACE DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT HE IS A THUG.

            “Your statements show a hatred of whites, you think that all whites should be punished for making blacks feel scared. You think that blacks are superior to whites, and have the right to commit crimes against anyone that is white. A black man can’t be guilty
            of being a criminal aggressor against a white man, that makes no sense to you”.

            Support these lies w/ evidence. ”

            YOU KEEP MAINTAINING THAT MARTIN HAD THE RIGHT TO ATTACK ZIMMERMAN. ZIMMERMAN DID NOTHING TO WARRANT AN ATTACK. ZIMMERMAN WAS WHITE, WALKING THROUGH HIS OWN NEIGHBORHOOD. MARTIN WAS BLACK WALKING THROUGH ZIMMERMAN’S NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU SEEM TO THINK THAT MARTIN HAD THE RIGHT TO BE THERE AND ZIMMERMAN DIDN’T. THE ONLY REASON THAT MIGHT BE FOUND WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE IN COLOR. YOU ARE ABSOLVING A BLACK THUG OF WRONG DOING BECAUSE HE HAD THE RIGHT TO RACIALLY PROFILE A WHITE MAN.

            “What I in fact believe is that ANYONE should be able to pass freely as long as they harm no one or
            trespass. The kid was NOT allowed this usually universal freedom. ”

            MAYBE THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT CASES. NONE OF YOUR FACTS FIT THE EVIDENCE OF THE ONE I AM TALKING ABOUT. ZIMMERMAN DID NOT IMPEDE MARTINS ABILITY TO WALK TO THE HOUSE HE WAS STAYING AT. HE WAS NOT STOPPED OR QUESTIONED IN ANY WAY.

            “The onus was on Zimmerman to identify himself, make sure he wasn’t making a mistake, or to mind his own business. ”

            AS A MEMBER OF NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH IT WAS HIS BUSINESS TO FIND OUT WHAT THIS STRANGER WAS DOING. THERE IS NO LEGAL REQUIREMENT FOR HIM TO IDENTIFY HIMSELF TO ANOTHER CIVILIAN IN A PUBLIC AREA.

            “The kids duty was to make it home alive. ”

            WELL THEN HE SHOULD HAVE HEADED HOME

            “I notice you didn’t answer the question because it would expose yr hero/idol as the obese cowardly MURDERER he is. I can only speculate what Jesus would say to the kid but IMO he would welcome him home. ”

            I DID ANSWER THE QUESTION, YOU MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT, SINCE IT WAS SUBTLE.

            “Zimmerman is as Christian as Hitler, nice try tho. Hitler also loved MURDERING people because they were different.”

            AND MARTIN WAS TRYING TO MURDER ZIMMERMAN BECAUSE HE WAS WHITE.

            POOR MISGUIDED BLACK MAN PICKED A WELL ARMED WHITE MAN TO ATTACK.

    • Average_Joe56

      Justsomestupidguy151,

      Thank you for you service as a juror and for paying such close attention to all of the details of the trail. At this time, your are excused from jury duty…What? You weren’t on the jury?

      Ah, just another dumbass, wannabe armchair lawyer….who knows everything about….everything….who woulda thunk? (certainly not you).

      “I don’t believe it. Prove it to me and I still won’t believe it.”
      Douglas Adams

      • Average_Joe56

        Are you sure about that? How do you know? Do you know who I am? Do you know anything at all?
        You’ve rattled off your opinion like diarrhea …but have forgotten to bring any evidence to support those opinions…..(liberal? stupid? black?…or as I am guessing… …all of the above?)
        I’d love to see you in the courtroom…you’d convict yourself…the prosecutor could just sit back and let you do his work for him…….
        Damn son…how many times were you dropped on your head as a child? Answer…too many.
        You’re almost as sharp….. as a bowling ball………

    • chocopot

      Liberals believe that only their lives are important and only they have a right to defend themselves. You are just pond scum and deserve to be a victim. Perfect example of left-wing hell: NYC, where if you defend yourself from an attacker, expecially if you are white and he is not, YOU become the criminal and can expect whatever is left of your life to be a living hell, mostly spent in court, jail, or both. Bernie Goetz found that out the hard way.

      • chocopot

        No, he was worth nothing because he chose, of his own free will, to be a thug, a druggie, and an overall POS. His loss is a benefit to society since he was well on his way to becoming a career criminal. Can you honestly deny the truth of any part of that?

  • independent thinker

    Coalition to Stop Gun Violence seems to think you should cower in the far corner and hope the bottom feeding scum do not see you.

    • sootsme

      So exactly who does like the looks of some fool beating the crap out of them? Not me, for one. How ’bout you? I don’t like your looks, fine- no harm, no foul. You start beating me, all bets are off, and I still don’t like your looks. BANG!! You are now toast, and your point is now irrelevant…

      • chocopot

        Facts just don’t seem to get through to you. You live in a very interesting fantasy world, where you just make up things as you go along. You should seek some professional help before you hurt yourself.

        • chocopot

          I deal in truth and facts. You deal in whatever lies you choose to make up, along with those published in the mainstream media. Deal with it.

          • Average_Joe56

            Apparently, Justsomefool is about as bright as a Black Hole and twice as dense….

          • chocopot

            That seems to just about sum it up.

    • Frank Kahn

      You just keep getting more and more stupid. Zimmerman was found innocent of murder. THERE WAS NO MURDER!!!!!!

      • Average_Joe56

        I’m not sure where you went to school…but you missed out somewhere along the way……

        Not guilty means… to be guiltless

        guilt·less

        /ˈgɪltlɪs/ Show Spelled [gilt-lis]
        adjective

        1. free from guilt; innocent.

        2. having no knowledge or experience; innocent (usually followed by of ).

        Education is a wonderful thing….get some.

        “A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.”
        Douglas Adams

        • Average_Joe56

          Did you even go to school?
          Not sure what kid you are speaking of…. I know it couldn’t be Trayvon Martin…he was shot while trying to be a thug….and he got what he deserved. Even the court has said so.
          If he had attacked me…I would have shot him too….no question about it….and quite frankly, the color of his skin wouldn’t be a factor…
          Dead is dead…..I don’t shoot to wound.
          Trayvon was stupid….and being stupid….got him killed….wise up!

      • Frank Kahn

        First of all, a personal attack, by calling me a dumbass is against the posting policy here.

        Second, you might want to brush up on your knowledge about our nations justice system. We are presumed INNOCENT until proven GUILTY in a court of law. Now, for your enlightenment, if you are found NOT GUILTY in a court of law, that means you are still INNOCENT. SO FINDING SOMEONE NOT GUILTY IS THE SAME AS FINDING THEM TO BE INNOCENT.

        You can rant and rave, and try to twist the meaning of words all you want, but Zimmerman is innocent of murder.

    • adbj102

      Unless YOU are black! Then you can commit any crime, just complain that you were profiled! Since when was profiling a crime, You just did it!

    • chocopot

      And if they do see you, well, that’s just too bad. You are NOT entitled to defend yourself.

      • chocopot

        There is no point in even trying to respond to a question which has no basis in fact.

      • Average_Joe56

        Why wasn’t GZ entitled to defend himself from a wannabe thug who was pummeling him?
        Oh because he was Hispanic (not white). OK…I see how it works now.
        Too bad that you are so badly misinformed. You may wish to be careful in the future…we’re armed now…and no longer available to become victims….and we don’t mind filling out the police report.

  • David Wallace

    Straight up lies!
    First off – “Now you can provoke a fight, and if losing that fight, kill the person you attacked.” Absolutely false, apparently they haven’t read the law.
    And even if it were true that doesn’t apply to the Zimmerman case since Trayvon was the initiator of the fight.

    But the biggest problem I have with all the loonies opposing SYG is that it’s a response, just like in the Zimmerman case, to the street thug mentality that currently pervades our society. Somehow fighting back against violent criminals is now a bad thing?

    • fred37ify

      12% of the US population is black – yet they make up 40% of the US prison population ! That “obese pos ” was right to profile the thug ! And justice was served – in Martins case TWICE !

      • Average_Joe56

        I am guessing that you know this…because you practice it? Stop profiling and being a bigot…..Justsomebigot…..

    • sootsme

      George was walking around in his own neighborhood, much like um, Neighborhood Watch folks, might do in the course of their duties. Trayvon chose of his own free will to start beating the crap out of George. Pretty stupid if you ask me… Darwin got it right this time, thank God.

    • Frank Staples

      Hey Just…sorry Dude but you lose bigtime!! Didn’t pay a damn bit of attention to the case did you?? No racism according to the FBI but maybe you’re smarter than the FBI, HUH??? You don’t have a clue. Funny how the libtards such as yourself always play the race card when you get your fanny kicked.

      • Average_Joe56

        Such vitriol….how pathetic……

        • chocopot

          Just is a typical Leftist. When losing an argument because the facts are all against you (which is the usual situation for the Leftists), attack your opponent personally and call him names to distract from the actual argument. Pathetic.

      • independent thinker

        “Zimmerman was the one who started the fight ”
        You have made that claim what three or four times now and have not provided ONE shred of evidence to back it up. The court proceedings and police reports indicate Martin attacked Zimmerman and Zimmerman defended himself.

      • Frank Kahn

        Lets see the number of items here that is just your opinion.

        1. you are assuming that Frank Staples’ mother was not married to his father

        2. the corruption in the FBI is against black people

        3. following a suspicious person at night is racial profiling

        4. zimmerman started the fight, even though martin attacked him

        5. it is murder to defend yourself from a violent attacker.

        6. it is somehow hypocritical to state the facts instead of spewing bigoted opinions.

        • Average_Joe56

          Not according to the jury.
          Armchair Lawyering again?
          LMAO…what a maroon……

        • Frank Kahn

          Moron is a term used for persons with an IQ of less than 70. Most would be incapable of intelligent discourse.

          I might put you in this category, based on your lack of understanding of reality, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

          I have looked at many sources for the definition of MURDER. I have failed to find the source you are quoting when you say “pursue and attack” is murder.

          “definition of murder, which by this definition occurs
          when a person, of sound memory and discretion,
          unlawfully kills any reasonable creature in being and under the king’s peace, with malice aforethought, either express or implied.

          The elements of common law murder are:

          Unlawful

          killing

          of a human

          by another human

          with malice aforethought.
          The Unlawful – This distinguishes murder from killings that are done within the boundaries of law, such as an execution, justified self-defense, or the killing of enemy soldiers during a war”

          Now, technically, there can be no murder unless someone (human) is Killed by another person (human). Further, the use of the terms malice aforethought refers to the fact that the killing was the motivation for the actions leading to the death. In other words, you had to have planned the act of killing the person for it to be murder. Lacking the intent, killing someone because of an altercation, in which you reasonably fear for your life, is called self defense. This also eliminates the identification of the killing as a murder.

          Lets examine your two factors for murder.

          “pur·sue [per-soo] Show IPA verb, pur·sued, pur·su·ing. verb (used with object)

          1. to follow in order to overtake, capture, kill, etc.; chase.

          2. to follow close upon; go with; attend: Bad luck pursued him.

          3. to strive to gain; seek to attain or accomplish (an end, object, purpose, etc.).

          4. to proceed in accordance with (a method, plan, etc.).

          5. to carry on or continue (a course of action, a train of thought, an inquiry, studies, etc.).”

          The only definition, of pursue, that fits your diatribe is the first one. And, in that only if you cherry pick the word kill. Since, there is no evidence that this was the motivation, that is not usable.

          “at·tack [uh-tak] Show IPA verb (used with object)

          1. to set upon in a forceful, violent, hostile, or aggressive way, with or without a weapon; begin fighting with: He attacked him with his bare hands.

          2. to begin hostilities against; start an offensive against: to attack the enemy.

          3. to blame or abuse violently or bitterly.

          4. to direct unfavorable criticism against; criticize severely; argue with strongly: He attacked his opponent’s statement.

          5. to try to destroy, especially with verbal abuse: to attack the mayor’s reputation.”

          According to the evidence, available in the trial, Zimmerman did not commit any action listed in the definition of attack. Martin, however, did. Actually, Martin committed the actions described in the first definition listed. The most you can claim, is that Zimmerman somehow attacked Martin simply by the act of following (pursuing) him. This action is not mentioned in the definition of attack.

          • Frank Kahn

            NO, I EXPLAINED WHY YOUR CHOICE OF THE WORD KILL WAS WRONG, IT DID NOT PROVE YOUR POINT, IT DISPROVED IT. YOU HAVE A LONG ROAD AHEAD OF YOU IN YOUR QUEST FOR TRUTH.

            FOLLOWING SOMEONE IS NOT JUSTIFICATION FOR ASSAULT. IT IS THE LAW, YOU MUST HAVE REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF IMPENDING VIOLENCE TO ATTACK SOMEONE. OR THERE MUST HAVE BEEN SOME ACTUAL CRIME BEING PERPETRATED PRIOR TO YOUR ATTACK.

            FOLLOWING SOMEONE IS NOT STALKING, AND ZIMMERMAN NEVER ATTACKED MARTIN. GET OFF YOUR STUPID RACIST RANTING AND DEAL WITH THE FACTS.

          • Frank Kahn

            NO, YOU MENTALLY CHALLENGED CHILD, IT SAID TO KILL, WHICH MEANS THAT IS THE INTENT, SINCE THAT WAS NOT THE INTENT THE DEFINITION DOES NOT FIT.

            THERE WAS NO STALKING AND NO MURDER. IF YOU ATTACK ME I WILL SHOOT YOU DEAD ALSO, IN SELF DEFENSE.

          • Frank Kahn

            Twisting in the wind again? I don’t recall my using any such statement. Guns are designed as a very efficient way of killing. Owning one, however, does not indicate the intent to kill someone.

            When I get into my truck, and head out to do some hunting, I am in possession of 1 or more guns. During my trip, I will undoubtedly follow several people. Any car that is ahead of me is being followed by me, and my gun(s). This does not mean that I am intending to kill the people in those cars. It also does not mean that I am stalking them or attacking them. I am not being an aggressor against them. This is true even if the occupants in the car ahead are black.

            So, me following black people, while carrying a gun is not stalking. It is not an aggressive action. It does not put them in danger, or give a reasonable person a reason to fear.

            But, by your logic, they have the right to turn their car around, chase me down, and try to kill me, because they are black and I was following them.

          • Frank Kahn

            SO MUCH IGNORANCE AND SO LITTLE TIME

            “You brought up intent, genius. What are guns for?”

            IT DEPENDS ON THE GUN. IT ALSO DEPENDS ON THE PERSON POSSESSING THE GUN. FOR ME IT IS MANY POSSIBLE THINGS. I USE IT TO HUNT FOR PLEASURE OR FOOD. I USE IT TO TARGET PRACTICE. I USE THEM FOR PROTECTION.

            “Are you following people in the middle of the night, too close and to their doorstep? ”

            IT WAS NOT THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, IT WAS EARLY EVENING, HE WAS NOT FOLLOWING TOO CLOSE AND HE DID NOT FOLLOW HIM TO HIS DOORSTEP.

            “Then these people would see a stranger/pervert/rapist/child abductor/robber/murderer and would be well within their rights to kill you.”

            NORMALLY ADJUSTED, AND REASONABLE PEOPLE WOULD SEE A STRANGER. TWISTED PERVERTS WOULD ASSUME THE PERSON IS ONE OR MORE OF YOUR LIST JUST BASED ON THE FACT THAT HE IS A STRANGER. AND CHECK YOUR STATES LAW ON THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE, THE THOUGHT THAT SOMEONE MIGHT BE A CRIMINAL IS NOT A JUSTIFICATION IN ANY STATE IN THIS COUNTRY.

            “Reasonable people feel threatened or stalked by a creepy pervert who wouldn’t identify himself, had no uniform or official standing and who followed them home. ”

            FIRST OFF, YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN ANYONE HERE AN INDICATION THAT YOU CAN FATHOM WHAT REASONABLE IS. REASONABLE PEOPLE ARE NOT SUBJECT TO PARANOIA OR FUNK (UNREASONING FEAR). NORMAL PEOPLE DO NOT ASSUME SOMEONE IS GOING TO RAPE OR KILL THEM JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE FOLLOWING THEM. MARTIN WAS NOT STALKED, HE NEVER ONCE ASKED ZIMMERMAN TO IDENTIFY HIMSELF AND YOU DON’T HAVE TO HAVE A UNIFORM TO HAVE STANDING. AS A HOME OWNER IN THAT COMMUNITY, ZIMMERMAN DID HAVE LEGAL STANDING TO INVESTIGATE SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY. AND, AS TO UNIFORMS, THERE IS SUCH A THING AS A PLAIN CLOTHES OFFICER. IF HE IS FOLLOWING YOU AND YOU ATTACK HIM HE WILL KILL YOU TOO.

            “THAT is weird and creepy and any intelligent person
            would feel threatened or cornered as the kid must have been.”

            IT WAS WEIRD AND CREEPY THAT A YOUNG BLACK MAN WAS WANDERING AROUND A GATED COMMUNITY AT NIGHT. WHAT YOU FEEL IS WEIRD AND CREEPY IS JUST AN OPINION, PROBABLY BASED ON YOUR OWN PERSONAL PROBLEMS.

            “I’m using yr own logic. ”

            TO USE MY LOGIC, YOU WOULD FIRST NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT LOGIC IS.

            “It was OK to MURDER an unarmed kid because I felt bigoted and stupid enough to profile and stalk them. ”

            NO, IT IS NOT OKAY TO MURDER SOMEONE JUST BECAUSE “YOU” ARE STUPID. THERE WAS NO PROFILING AND NO STALKING.

            “You should probably get yr lies straight, earlier you said Zimmerman went back to his car. If that was true, then the kid probably went too far ”

            THAT WAS HIS FIRST STUPID MISTAKE BUT NOT WHAT GOT HIM KILLED.

            “even tho he had every right to get the license plate of the child abductor/rapist prowling the neighborhood.”

            FIRST OF ALL YOU SLANDEROUS LITTLE PISSANT, ZIMMERMAN WAS AND IS NOT A CHILD ABDUCTOR, OR RAPIST. HE WAS NOT PROWLING THE NEIGHBORHOOD HE WAS PATROLLING IT. IF MARTIN HAD GOT THE LICENSE NUMBER, AND CALLED THE POLICE, LIKE A NORMAL PERSON, HE WOULD STILL BE ALIVE TODAY. INSTEAD HE BRUTALLY ATTACKED A MAN FOR NO GOOD REASON AND GOT HIMSELF KILLED.

          • Frank Kahn

            FIRST, YOU NEED A LESSON IN LANGUAGE, SPELLING AND GRAMMAR.

            “You are an ashamed ”

            THE WORD ASHAMED IS PERSONAL. YOU WOULD BE ASHAMED OF MY STANCE, BUT YOU WOULD SAY THAT I AM SHAMEFUL NOT ASHAMED.

            “bigoted ”

            PLEASE POINT OUT, WITH LINKS TO THE EVIDENCE, WHERE MY POSTS ARE BASED ON AN OPINION INSTEAD OF FACT.

            “POS ”

            ANOTHER AD HOMINEM ATTACK? JUST BECAUSE YOU REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE FACTS OF THE CASE, DOES NOT MAKE ME A POS.

            “who deserves the fate that yr obese god gave to an innocent unarmed kid, fancy boy”

            My, God, (note the capital G) is not fat. I have never met him, but I doubt he has any physical ailments or is in the habit of over-indulging in worldly pursuits. I do not worship gods, so I don’t know what you mean by that statement. MARTIN WAS INNOCENT, RIGHT UP TO THE TIME HE ATTACKED ZIMMERMAN. AT THAT POINT, HE BECAME A CRIMINAL. AND, YOU DON’T HAVE TO HAVE A WEAPON (TOOL) TO KILL SOMEONE. HIS HANDS WERE HIS WEAPON.

          • Frank Kahn

            ACTUALLY I HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIM, AND YOU ARE EVEN LYING ABOUT HIS CHINS.

            THE BLACK MAN VICIOUSLY ATTACKED HIM SO SELF DEFENSE WAS APPROPRIATE. THERE WAS NO MURDER

          • Frank Kahn

            I DONT HAVE TO ADMIT ANY SUCH THING, ZIMMERMAN DID NOT STALK THE BLACK MAN, HE FOLLOWED HIM FOR A SHORT DISTANCE.

            ON THE SUBJECT OF GOD, YOU MIGHT WANT TO BE CAREFUL INVOKING HIS NAME. IT IS A SIN TO BEAR FALSE WITNESS, WHICH YOU ARE DOING EVERY TIME YOU POST. I AM SURE THAT GOD IS MAKING NOTE OF ALL YOU SAY AND DO, SO HE WILL DISCUSS THIS WITH YOU LATER.

          • Frank Kahn

            Are you talking about your cheering the criminal actions of a drug crazed black racist?

            You, not only, did not witness anything, you did not read and understand anything.

            Zimmerman admitted to doing exactly what he did. He followed a suspicious man wandering around at night. He identified the exact location. He returned to his vehicle. He was jumped (attacked) by Martin. He was being beaten on the ground. He finally used his weapon, as a last resort, to stop the vicious attack.

            Your, analysis of his statements changes the facts into lies.

          • Frank Kahn

            You fail to have any human sense or dignity.

            “I don’t cheer for the kid, I mourn his senseless bigoted MURDER. ”

            NO, YOU MOURN HIS SENSELESS DEATH DUE TO HIS STUPID RACIST ATTACK ON A CIVIL PERSON.

            “YOU on the other hand have all but nominated a child molesting felon fr sainthood. ”

            I WISH I HAD ZIMMERMAN’S PHONE NUMBER SO I COULD LET HIM KNOW ABOUT YOUR SLANDER SO YOU COULD BE ADDED TO THE PEOPLE HE SUES. HE IS NOT A CHILD MOLESTER, HE HAS COMMITTED NO FELONIES, AND YOU ARE JUST CRYING IN YOUR CRIB BECAUSE YOU CAN’T HAVE THE BLACK GODS WIN.

            “What if it was yr son who felt like he was going to be raped/murdered/robbed or kidnapped? ”

            UNLIKE TRAYVON, AND YOU, MY SON HAS NORMAL CIVILIZED REASONING CAPABILITY. HE WOULD NOT HAVE ASSUMED THAT ZIMMERMAN WAS A CRIMINAL AND THEREFORE NOT HAVE PERPETRATED A CRIME OF ASSAULT. YOUR QUESTION IS ONLY VALID FOR TWISTED PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO THINK EVERYONE IS EVIL.

            “Would yr son’s senseless brutal bigoted MURDER be OK? ”

            IF MY SON WAS STUPID ENOUGH TO COMMIT AN UNPROVOKED ATTACK ON A PERSON AND GOT HIMSELF KILLED, I WOULD MOURN HIS DEATH. I WOULD NOT CONDEMN THE POOR SOUL THAT WAS FORCED TO KILL HIM.

            “It had Better be or you are a HYPOCRITE.

            What did you witness?”

            SINCE I DID NOT PURPORT TO HAVE WITNESSED ANYTHING, I DON’T KNOW WHAT THIS QUESTION IS ABOUT. IF YOU WANT MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCES WITH BLACK THUGS, I WILL TELL YOU. BUT, CONSIDERING YOUR RACIST BIAS, I DOUBT YOU WOULD BELIEVE THE TRUTH ABOUT IT.

            “Zimmerman deserved to be beaten if not just flat out shot.”

            IF YOU ADHERE TO THE IDEA OF EVOLUTION, WHERE THE SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST IS DOMINANT, YOU WOULD BE VERY SCARED. IN THE ANIMAL WORLD, THEY KILL THEIR DEFECTIVE OFFSPRING, OR THEY ABANDON THEM TO DIE. IF AN IMPALA IS STUPID ENOUGH TO ATTACK A LION, IT WILL BE KILLED. AN ANIMAL THAT CONSIDERS ANOTHER ANIMAL TO BE A THREAT, THEY RUN AS FAST AS THEY CAN TO GET AWAY. THESE ARE SIMPLE RULES OF SURVIVAL. STUPID ANIMALS DON’T LIVE VERY LONG. THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THIS RULE IS IN HUMANS, WE PROTECT THE STUPID ONES. IS THAT WHY YOU ARE WANTING TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE TRAYVON?

            HOW OLD ARE YOU ANYWAY, 10?

      • Barakolips

        Get over it Sambo

      • Frank Staples

        Ok, so you just called me a dumb bastard…you wouldn’t do it to my face. you cowardly piece of juvenile crap. And you still apparently don’t have enough reading comprehension to understand what I said. You didn’t pay any attention to the case and now let your liberal over-run mouth make you out to be really stupid in public!! I’m sure that if you have a friend that finished first grade you can ask him or her to explain the case to you. YOU are the one who is racist and prejudiced. You are just a typical liberal, no brain idiot. I’d tell you what you really are but I generally don’t use that kind of language for the public. Suffice it to say that your brains must have run down your mama’s leg.

    • Frank Kahn

      Come on over and try to kick my fat ass, and see how long you live.

      Following someone is not picking a fight. Only to stupid race baiting blacks is it a threat.

      • Jeff

        Have you suffered a stroke? You didn’t used to be quite so stupid. Do you really think anyone cares that you’d feel threatened and justified in shooting an unarmed 90 pound woman? After all, she might scratch you.

        • Average_Joe56

          Such vitriol…how pathetic……

          • Average_Joe56

            Such vitriol…how pathetic……

        • Frank Kahn

          Listen, moron, I did not, at any time, mention shooting a 90 pound woman. I have fought one though. Never underestimate the ability of a person just because they are smaller than you. She almost had me with her martial arts ability. It does not matter the size of the attacker, if they threaten your life you have the right to defend yourself.

      • Frank Kahn

        There is only one bigot in this conversation, YOU.

        “Amazing how you apply everything to the kid when the adult should be the one who you apply these standards to. ”

        A great WTF are you talking about moment here. Zimmerman was doing his job, as neighborhood watch. It is no different than if a policeman had been patrolling the community.

        “Zimmerman had already decided this kid was guilty ”

        NO, YOU HAVE DECIDED THAT ZIMMERMAN BELIEVED THAT.

        “THEN he stalked and murdered him. ”

        THERE WAS NO STALKING AND NO MURDER.

        “What is so difficult for you bigots to understand?? ”

        THERE IS NO BIGOTRY IN USING FACTS, INSTEAD OF RACIALLY MOTIVATED EMOTIONS.

        “There is an expectation of not being profiled, stalked, and murdered but for some reason that’s an unreasonable expectation for bigots like you. ”

        Actually, profiling is not such a demonic thing. You profile everyday. If profiling results in harm to a person then it is a problem. But the problem here is that you are profiling Zimmerman in a negative way and profiling Martin in a positive one. Zimmerman said that Martin was acting suspicious, wandering around the community at night. This is profiling, in that it uses suspicious behavior to raise alarms. Martin on the other hand did racial profiling. He called Zimmerman a creepy ass crakka, which is an anti-white racial slur. His, marginally literate, girlfriend took the racist profiling even further by assuming that he must be a rapist or child molester, because he was a creepy ass crakka following a young black man. This, racist profiling, is what led to Martin following Zimmerman back to his vehicle, and violently attacking him.

        “Stalking someone in the dark then jumping them isn’t justification to get yr @$$ beat??? ”

        FIRST OF ALL, HE WAS NOT STALKING HIM, HE FOLLOWED HIM FOR A SHORT DISTANCE TO KEEP AN EYE ON HIM. SECOND, HE DID NOT JUMP MARTIN, MARTIN JUMPED HIM.

        “Unless the kid could move at the speed of light, fatass had every oppertunity to identify himself, brandish his weapon, ”

        ZIMMERMAN HAD STOPPED FOLLOWING MARTIN AND RETURNED TO HIS VEHICLE. THERE IS NO REASON TO EXPECT HIM TO IDENTIFY HIMSELF IN THAT SITUATION. BRANDISHING A WEAPON, WITHOUT CAUSE, IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE.

        “or hang back and let Five O deal w/ the NONEXISTENT CRIME. ”

        YES, YOU ARE CORRECT, AND HE WAS NOT PURSUING THE MATTER AT THE TIME OF MARTINS ATTACK. HOWEVER, THE MOMENT THAT MARTIN ATTACKED, A CRIME HAD BEEN COMMITTED AND IT WAS ZIMMERMAN’S RIGHT AND DUTY TO DEFEND HIMSELF.

        “No, he thought he was the obese version of TJ Hooker and chose to start everything that led to the
        murder. ”

        NO, YOU IGNORANT LIBERAL, HE WAS DOING HIS JOB, LIKE ANYONE ELSE DOES THEIR JOB. HE DID NOT START ANYTHING, EXCEPT IN THE RACIST MINDS OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU. AND THERE WAS NO MURDER, ALSO EXCEPT IN THE RACIST MINDS OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

        “I can’t believe there are actually bigots defending stalking people. WTH???? ”

        AND WE CANNOT BELIEVE THERE ARE ACTUALLY PEOPLE, LIKE YOU, THAT REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE FACTS. THAT YOU CAN CONTINUE TO SAY THINGS THAT ARE SO OBVIOUSLY RACIALLY MOTIVATED THAT IT DEFIES ALL REASON.

        “YOU need counseling for cheering on a murderous bigot who got away w/ MURDER”

        ACCORDING TO THE DICTIONARY DEFINITIONS OF THE WORDS MURDER AND BIGOT, YOU ARE WRONG ON BOTH COUNTS. THERE WAS NO MURDER. AND THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE OF RACIAL PROFILING ON THE PART OF ZIMMERMAN. THERE, ALSO, IS NO EVIDENCE OF AN AGENDA WHICH WOULD SUPPORT THE USE OF THE WORD BIGOT FOR ZIMMERMAN.

        AS TO THE SUBJECT OF COUNSELING, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU GET SOME BUT IT WOULD NOT HELP. YOU ARE NOT MERELY IGNORANT, YOU ARE EITHER LYING OR ARE TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND FACTS.

        PROFILING IS RISKY, BECAUSE YOU CAN’T BE 100% CERTAIN THAT YOUR OPINION IS NOT TILTED. HOWEVER, YOUR CONTINUOUS SUPPORT OF A VICIOUS CRIMINAL BLACK MAN INDICATES THAT YOU ARE A YOUNG RACIST LIBERAL. BACK WHEN I WAS YOUNG, YOUR STATEMENTS WOULD ONLY HAVE BEEN ESPOUSED BY BLACKS. NOW, IT IS DIFFERENT, THERE IS A DISTURBING INCREASE IN THE AMOUNT OF WHITE LIBERALS THAT WANT TO KNEEL DOWN TO THE BLACKS BY BEING ANTI-WHITE RACISTS.

    • MECOLE

      Don’t let the facts get in the way of your stupidity

    • Ron

      you should include stupid between just and some and dumb A** between some and guy!!

    • adbj102

      You are full of sh..t, Yes he was profiled, “Acting like a criminal” but according to you IF the criminal is black? he MUST BE allowed to commit his crime, interfereing is violating HIS civil rights? Sorry I don”t WORSHIP BLACK THUGS! And you are an idiot!

      • Average_Joe56

        More like the crime of walking ….while being and acting a dumbass…..
        Much like you’ll do when the SHTF….and you’ll likely end up with the same fate….
        Why?…..Because you are too stupid to know when to walk away and when to keep your mouth shut.
        You are a statistic…waiting to happen…..

        • Average_Joe56

          Such language…from a supposedly ….winning adventurer….
          I would suggest that you stop acting like a bigoted moron…but apparently… it’s no act….

        • Average_Joe56

          Such language…from a supposedly ….winning adventurer….
          I would suggest that you stop acting like a bigoted moron…but apparently… it’s no act….

    • Average_Joe56

      yada, yada, yada……. Troll!

      • Average_Joe56

        Wouldn’t you have to have an argument yourself? All you have posted so far…is your personal opinion and nothing more.
        Are you asking for me to argue about your intelligence (or lack there of).?
        Please, show me something other than your opinion…if you want me to argue with you..
        Your opinion and $5 will get you a cup of coffee in some places…this isn’t one of those places.

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Justsomeguy151,

      You are in serial violation of the comment policy. A number of your comments have been edited because of this. Please review the policy before posting another comment. You have been warned.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • Alex

    Yesterday, police in New York City announced the biggest gun bust in the city’s very long History.

    ALL of the guns were traced to out-of-state sales.

    You Teabaggers who insist that sensible gun control does not work by pointing at cities like NY and Chicago where gun crimes are rampant miss the real issue: backwards Red States with their very liberal interpretation of the Second Amendment…

    • sootsme

      New York needs to vigorously prosecute all gun law violators, as in the legislature and courts, who repeatedly “infringe” on Citizens’ right to keep and bear arms as made legally quite clear in the Constitution. The only actual, real, legal gun law in our Republic is the Second Amendment. Anyone who makes it any different is “infringing”, and guilty of a serious crime against we the people, and deserves to be jailed at a minimum.

    • Frank Kahn

      Backwards? Come on out to Idaho and we will discuss your ignorant liberal idea.

      • Jeff

        You just proved his point. You seem to fantasize about violence a lot. Guns and physical ineptitude are a really bad combination as we saw with Zimmerman. At least a real cop (not Barney Fife) would be able to handle a skinny, unarmed teenager without pulling out the gun. I imagine you need your gun if faced with anything larger than Little Bunny Foo Foo.

        • Frank Kahn

          When all other methods of recourse have been exhausted there is no option left except the use of lethal force. Ineptitude is best exhibited by the rambling of moronic liberals. You applying for the job? I have a “skinny teenage” nephew. You want to show your physical prowess against a 6’9 225lb. teenager?

          You are going to be a dead liberal the first time a Trayvon Martin decides you deserve to be beaten because you look like you hate blacks.

          Violence is not a fantasy, killing is not a joy, self defense is a necessary right and everyone has it.

          • independent thinker

            “You are going to be a dead liberal the first time a Trayvon Martin decides you deserve to be beaten because you look like you hate blacks.”
            Or 2-3 black kids decide to “off” someone simply because they are bored.

          • independent thinker

            Nope, just an example based on yesterday’s news headlines.

          • independent thinker

            All the evidence presented before and during the trial as well as comments made after the trial by those involved including prosecution witnesses indicates MARTIN ATTACKED ZIMMERMAN in an unwarranted sneak attack. The evidence indicates Martin blindsided Zimmerman knocking him to the ground then proceeded to pound Zimmerman’s head on the sidewalk and beat on him MMA style.

          • independent thinker

            Tell Sharpton you need a new script the one you are using is getting repetitive and stale.

          • Vash the Stampede

            He did not touch or talk to the boy until after he was blindsided. To assault someone their must be verbal or physical contact. To be the aggressor you must be the one to make the first contact.Since Zimmerman went back to his vehicle without making contact. Martin is the aggressor. Following someone for a little bit in not assault. Maybe disconcerting if the person notices you but not assault. nuf said!!!!

          • Vash the Stampede

            To assault someone you have to do it verbally or physically. Following someone for a little while and walking back to your vehicle is not assault. To be the aggressor you must first verbally or physically assault someone and then they fight you back. Not the other way around.

          • Barakolips

            My god you have some kind of a mental disorder! Trayvon jumped on Zimmerman, Trayvon jumped on Zimmerman,Trayvon jumped on Zimmerman, Got that now Einstein!

          • Average_Joe56

            “Perfect example of bigotry right here.”
            Every time you open your mouth….
            Admitting it…is the first step towards recovery.
            Next step?…….Stop being a db.

        • ‘Barbara Messmer

          Jeff do you ever watch the news? Most confrontations between cops and anyone else always have 6 or more cops to one individual. Now true they may not pull out a gun, but they use their billy clubs, mace or pepper spray, and tazers pretty much at will. Just about the last time a single cop stood up to anyone was Matt Dillon in Dodge City.

        • jag

          Ur one of obamas mental midgets fer sure!!!!!!!Stop livin the lie,and think for yourself, by the way u on obamas food stamps too????!!!!!!!

          • Jeff

            I am not, but if I were, would I then be disqualified from commenting?

          • jag

            MM’s are never disqualified, as u see, u were’nt, by the way what grade are u in?

          • Jeff

            Didn’t you spend a couple of decades in the 6th grade with Jethro? I hear he finally graduated. How about you?

          • jag

            Right nex t ur 2 dads!

    • MECOLE

      All of the reports I have seen, even in the liberal news, say “many of the guns MAY have come from out-of-state sources”. They were not traced to out-of-state sales, but were stolen and many were non traceable because the serial numbers had been destroyed.

    • Average_Joe56

      Such vitriol…how pathetic…..

  • Vash the Stampede

    As far as I know no law has ever stopped a crime. Laws make things Illegal. People stop crime.

  • Seeking truth

    Why is the media hiding the two black kids who were “bored” and “set out to kill somebody” Monday in Oklahoma. They shot a jogger in the back in cold blood! He was attending college on a baseball scholarship from Australia. All the media networks will not disclose race, but if you google “Australian man killed in Oklahoma” and read the Australian news report they even have the mug shots of the thugs!! If Obama had two son’s they would look like them!!

    • independent thinker

      My local news reported on it and showed the photos of the three black kids. However that is local not national news.

    • jag

      I luv u man! Took the words outta my mouth!

  • Seeking truth

    My post is in response to the continued dead discussion ( no pun intended ) of the Florida case involving George Zimmerman.

  • Seeking truth

    My post is in response to the continued dead discussion ( no pun intended ) of the Florida case involving George Zimmerman.

  • me

    The bad thing is the innocent and lawabiding are supposed to pay because of these troublemakers. why don’t the dumbasses go after harder penalties for people found guilty after commiting a crime with a gun. make it harsh enought to scare emfrom committing crimes using guns. That way the innocent and the law-abiding wouldn’t have to pay the price for other peoples crimes.

  • yesterday1

    A listing said “GUN HATERS ARE NOT THE ONCES FIGHTING STAND YOUR GROUND” so why is it that I only hear the GUN CONTROLERS fighting for a change. Just like during the trail people only seemed to understand the hipe that the news media put out,just for their own glory. If you remember the Prosecutor said Martin was just strolling through, going home while eating his skittles,of course in the trail it was brought out that it was raining and also that was a gated community,”wasn’t that then treaspassing” and it was presented like a Sunday stroll in the park. So what was Martin then looking for, any other person would have been in a hurry. So you can see George was on the ball. But then Martin became the Agressor by belting George in the face and then using his head as a basketball on the cement. So why didn’t those people who sited GODS law ask, why didn’t Martin stop and back away and saving his own Life plus Gods teaching would have been preserved,cause George only with drew his weapon while having his senses beat out, thus saving his own life. Why didn”t the News Media seek answers to all the conflicts in individual testamony by the Prosecuters withnes and not just one. I know there will be responce and of course it would be the onces who can’t see the trees for the leafs.

    • independent thinker

      ” HE profiled the kid.”—Speculation.

      “HE stalked the kid.”—Wrong, he followed him until asked to not do that. Zimmerman then turned and started towards his vehicle.

      ” HE assaulted the kid.”—Wrong again. Trayvon assaulted Zimmerman.

      ” HE was getting his ass kicked.”—True but it was because Zimmerman was blindsided by Martin, knocked to the ground, and had his head pounded on the sidewalk.

      “HE decided to MURDER when the fight HE started wasn’t going hos way…”—Once again you are wrong, the Jury said otherwise.

      • Average_Joe56

        There you go…throwing facts into the fray….shame…shame…shame
        Got to love it when these liberal trolls …show their true colors (pun intended)
        ;)

        • independent thinker

          Yep, I am just terrible for doing that ain’t I.

          • Average_Joe56

            If his head explodes, it’s on you….I’ll buy the first celebratory round! ;)

          • independent thinker

            Thanks Jack Black for me.

          • independent thinker

            Ya know, if Al Sharpton had a son he would sound exactly like Justsomeguy151. Hmmm, perhaps that explains all the racist vitriol coming from Justsomeguy151. Or perhaps he is the son Obama won’t admit to fathering.

          • Average_Joe56

            Apparently it isn’t embarrassing to you…since you continue to show us your prejudice and bigotry……
            Pot, meet kettle…..

          • Average_Joe56

            Wow…the intelligence never stops…er…starts with you……

      • ‘Barbara Messmer

        If you “have no problem w(ith) the verdict,” why do you continue to incorrectly use the term murderer?

      • ‘Barbara Messmer

        If you “have no problem w(ith) the verdict,” why do you continue to incorrectly use the term murderer?

      • Barakolips

        “I have no problem with the verdict,even if I disagree with it” After everything you’ve said already, that statement has got to be the winner of the ” Dumbass of the year award” Bigot liar.

    • denise0513

      Justsomeguy151, I guess you missed all the interviews Martin’s friend and “star” witness, Rachel did after the trial where she admitted Trayvon probably STARTED the fight. Martin had more than enough time to get to his father’s girlfriend’s home and chose to attack instead. I guess he wasn’t all that fearful after all. And by the way, Zimmerman was not fat at the time. He gained all the weight while dealing with the BS awaiting trial.

      • Average_Joe56

        ” I would attack a homosexual fatass rapist too.”

        And you would be just as dead…wouldn’t you? Dumbass….

        You do of course realize that GZ is married….. to a woman, right? You do know that GZ has never even been accused of being a rapist, let alone been convicted of such a crime… right?

        I guess, if you keep repeating your silliness….eventually YOU’LL start to believe it….the rest of us…not so much.

        Open Mouth…switch feet…..

        “He was a dreamer, a thinker, a speculative philosopher… or, as his wife would have it, an idiot.”

        Douglas Adams

        • denise0513

          Average_Joe 56, the person of low intelligence and therefore can only sling insults. Pretty sad.

          • Average_Joe56

            Does the truth hurt? Too bad….so sad…your bad…..
            Call someone who cares….

        • Average_Joe56

          Does the left side of your brain know what the right side is thinking?

          From your own post: ” I would attack a homosexual fatass rapist too.”
          Or was that someone just impersonating you?
          Painting yourself into a corner is not the smartest thing you could do…..but at least you’re consistent with your painting skills. It must get awfully lonely in those corners.

      • ‘Barbara Messmer

        “I would attack a homosexual fatass rapist too” Fine now all you need to prove is that Mr. Zimmerman is 1) homosexual and 2)a rapist. We will disregard your opinion as to him having a fat ass–wait why are you so obsessed with his butt?

        • Average_Joe56

          Were you born stupid…or have you been honing those skills?

    • jag

      What part didn’t u understand?????NOT GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!u have that 1 track mind…..they need 2watch u!!!!

      • Average_Joe56

        Facts don’t seem to matter to liberals, blacks or idiots…it’s a genetic thing and a hate thing…..

        • dan

          lmao….i’d throw women in but there’s still a few good-uns

        • Average_Joe56

          Actually, pretty much everyone here has proven beyond a reasonable doubt…that TM assaulted GM ( a crime)…and ended up dead as a result of his violent outburst against GM. Heck….they even proved it in court.
          The problem is…you’ve simply ignored all of the evidence presented at the trial and…here.
          We can lead you to the truth…but we can’t make acknowledge it.
          If you close your eyes and put your fingers in your ears while going “lalalalalala”….nothing else exists……

          Now, step back…take a deep breath….and hold it…..for about 20 mins.

      • jag

        Agreed, the whole thing was sad

      • Frank Kahn

        YES IT DOES

        • Frank Kahn

          Here is a supreme court case where the opinion is stated in its findings.

          “Coffin v. United States, 156 U.S. 432 (1895), was an appellate case before the United States Supreme Court in 1895 which established the presumption of innocence of persons accused of crimes.

          The principle that there is a presumption of innocence in favor of the accused is the undoubted law, axiomatic and elementary, and its enforcement lies at the foundation of the administration of our criminal law.”

          Just in case you are actually incapable of comprehension, the presumption of innocence means you are innocent. If you are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, then you are found to still be innocent when you are found not guilty.

          It is simple logic.

          • Frank Kahn

            MARTIN WAS GUILTY OF ASSAULT, HE WAS SHOT DURING THE COMMISSION OF HIS CRIME. THERE WAS NO MURDER. IF I CATCH YOU RAPING MY DAUGHTER YOU WILL DIE, NO COURT NECESSARY. IT IS CALLED JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE NOT MURDER.

            AND IT IS JUST YOU, AND A HOST OF OTHER LIBERAL IDIOTS THAT KEEP CLAIMING IT WAS ABOUT RACE.

          • Frank Kahn

            MORE INSANE IGNORANCE.

            “THE KID WAS GUILTY OF FIGHTING FOR HIS LIFE. ”

            SINCE HE WAS THE ONE WHO STARTED THE FIGHT, HE WAS FIGHTING TO PROVE HE WAS ENTITLED TO ASSAULT A WHITE MAN.

            “HE WAS MURDERED WHILE DOING THAT. ”

            HE WAS KILLED BECAUSE HE ATTACKED.

            “IS THE KID ALIVE?
            THEN HE WAS MURDERED. ”

            HE WAS NOT MURDERED BECAUSE HE WAS THE AGGRESSOR.

            “PUNCHING SOMEONE IS NEVER AN EXCUSE TO MURDER. ”

            OF COURSE IT ISN’T, IF TRAYVON HAD SIMPLY PUNCHED ZIMMERMAN, HE WOULD STILL BE ALIVE.

            “THAT WOULD BE JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE BUT THE POINT IS, WOULD YOU MURDER BECAUSE YOU THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO DO IT OR BECAUSE HE WAS DOING IT? ”

            IT WAS BECAUSE HE WAS BRUTALLY BEATING ZIMMERMAN, SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT? AND IT WAS SELF DEFENSE NOT MURDER.

            “THATS WHAT ZIMMERMAN DID. HE STARTED EVERYTHING ”

            ZIMMERMAN STARTED NOTHING, IT WAS THE RACIAL HATRED OF MARTIN THAT STARTED THE PROBLEM.

            “BECAUSE HE HAD IT IN HIS HEAD “HES NOT GOING TO GET AWAY”. ”

            HE DID NOTHING TO STOP MARTIN.

            “HE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT WHETHER THE KID WAS ACTUALLY GUILTY, ”

            MARTIN WAS GUILTY OF FELONY ASSAULT.

            “HE CONVICTED HIM IN HIS MIND.

            I’M NO LIBTARD, THEY ARE A BLIGHT ON THIS NATION ”

            IF YOU ARE NOT A LIBERAL, STOP TALKING LIKE ONE.

            “AND NEO-CON HYPOCRITES LIKE YOU ARE NO HELP. ”

            I HAVE TOLD YOU BEFORE, I BELIEVE IN MY CONSERVATIVE VIEWS AND AM READY TO FIGHT FOR THEM.

            “I DON’T EVEN BELIEVE IN “RACE”, THAT IS
            AN EVILUTIONARY TERM. I DON’T BELIEVE IN THAT LIE. WE ARE ALL THE SAME RACE. WE ARE ALL SHADES OF THE SAME COLOR, THAT’S A SCIENTIFIC FACT. ”

            YES, THERE IS INSUFFICIENT DIVERSITY TO ACTUALLY DELINEATE SEPARATE RACES. HOWEVER, IT IS COMMONLY ACCEPTED TO SPEAK OF RACE IN OUR CULTURE.

            “THERE ARE DIFFERENT RACES LIKE HORSES, DOGS AND CATS ”

            THOSE ARE SPECIES, NOT RACES.

            “BUT ALL HUMANS ARE THE SAME OR ELSE A MALE OR FEMALE FROM BLACK OR WHITE ETHNICITY COULD NOT PROCREATE.”

            ACTUALLY CROSSBREEDING BETWEEN SPECIES HAS OCCURRED.

            BUT YOUR POINT IS MOOT. IF YOU PREFER, WE COULD CHANGE THE WORD FROM RACIST TO ETHNICIST, BUT THAT JUST SOUNDS STUPID.

          • Frank Kahn

            Nice example of an ad hominem attack. To slander my intelligence, in an attempt to bolster your theory, is not going to change the facts of the case. Bigot is defined as pushing your personal opinions as reality, that would fit you not me. I just repeat the facts, that were given in the proceedings, you, instead, interpret them to fit your personal opinionated reality.

    • ‘Barbara Messmer

      Do you know that Martin was a) 17, b) over 6′ tall, c) trained in MMA? Hardly think someone like that was “afraid” that he was being “stalked” by a child molester or child abductor–indeed I am quite sure that Martin did not think of himself as a child, nor a kid. There is a difference between “stalking” and “following”. Mr. Zimmerman, who was in the performance of a community service, did not stalk, he followed. Which is perfectly legal. An “honest” person, really? You do know that he was only in that area because he had been kicked out of school for stolen property found in his locker and his “mother” if you wish to call her that, kicked him out because he was totally out of control. Not to mention that the autopsy report (something Mr. Zimmerman had no connection to) pointed out that Martin was a habitual drug abuser.

      • Frank Kahn

        NO, THE DRUG HE WAS USING WAS DAMAGING HIS INTERNAL ORGANS, IT WAS NOT POT. AND BEING ALMOST 18 IS STILL A MINOR BUT NOT A CHILD. HE WAS A FULLY GROWN MAN, FULL SIZED AND HATEFUL.

        • Frank Kahn

          Yes, he also used pot, but he used “designer” drugs also that were destroying his organs.

          My son would never do something as stupid as Trayvon. I teach my family how to conduct themselves, properly, in society. I don’t allow racism against anyone. If someone was watching them they would know to seek shelter indoors or to contact the police. The definitely would not act like a racist criminal and assault the person.

          You are projecting in your last statement. It is you that is worshiping the worthless black racist criminal that attacked an innocent hispanic man.

          • Frank Kahn

            ACTUALLY, I WAS RESPONDING TO YOUR POST ABOUT HIS USING DRUGS, I DID NOT BRING IT UP. I ALSO DID NOT USE IT AS JUSTIFICATION FOR HIS DEATH.

            IF MY SON DID SOMETHING AS STUPID AS TRAYVON, I WOULD EXPECT HIM TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. ZIMMERMAN IS NOT A FELON, HE HAS NEVER BEEN CONVICTED OF CHILD MOLESTATION.

            YOUR ASSERTION ABOUT HOW YOU BLACKS ARE KILLED IS SO WRONG I WILL ASSUME IT IS A BLATANT LIE TO FURTHER YOUR AGENDA. THE FACT IS THAT A BLACK MAN IS MORE LIKELY TO BE KILLED BY ANOTHER BLACK MAN THAN BY ANY OTHER MEANS.

            YOUR LINK IS IN REFERENCE TO A WHITE MAN NOT A BLACK MAN. AND POLICE ABUSE OF TASERS, WHICH RESULT IN DEATH, ARE SMALL COMPARED TO THE DEATH TOLL OF BLACK ON BLACK VIOLENCE.

            LOOKING AT THE CRIME OF THE BLACK MAN AS BAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS RACE. IGNORING THE FACT THAT THE MAN WAS STILL A MINOR DOES NOT MAKE IT RACIST. CALLING A 6 FT TALL 170 POUND MAN A CHILD IS INSINCERE.

            A CRIME (BREAKING THE LAW) DOES NOT DEPEND ON AGE. A 17 YEAR OLD IS JUST AS GUILTY AS A 30 YEAR OLD IF THEY COMMIT THE SAME CRIME.

          • Frank Kahn

            ROUND 57

            “ANOTHER BIGOT BROUGHT UP DRUG USE LIKE THAT MADE IT OK TO MURDER. ”

            YOU FIT THE DEFINITION OF BIGOT.

            “Definition of BIGOT : a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices;”

            “ZIMMERMAN IS A FELON , ONE OF WHICH WAS BATTERY ON A LEO. ”

            HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF ANY FELONY, SO HE IS NOT A FELON.

            “HE WAS NEVER CHARGED W/ CHILD MOLESTATION BUT HIS FAMILY MEMBER TESTIFIED THAT HE HAD INDEED RAPED HER. ”

            AN ACCUSATION IS NOT PROOF OF GUILT.

            “I’M NOT BLACK (LMAO!!!), I JUST HATE THAT ITS OK TO PROFILE, STALK AND MURDER BLACKS BECAUSE THEY’RE BLACK. ”

            NOBODY HAS CLAIMED THAT IT IS OKAY TO DO THOSE THINGS. YOUR WRONG IN YOUR ASSERTIONS BECAUSE THE FACTS DO NOT SUPPORT YOUR OPINION THAT IT HAPPENED THAT WAY.

            “I HAVE NO AGENDA, I JUST CAN’T STAND TO SEE ZIMMERMAN GIVEN GODHOOD ”

            NOBODY IS GIVING HIM GODHOOD, BUT YOU ARE TRYING TO PAINT MARTIN AS SOME KIND OF SAINT, THAT DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG.

            “BY HYPOCRITES THAT ALLEGEDLY VALUE LIBERTY WHEN INSTEAD THEY MAY AS WELL BE LIBERALS IN PRACTICE.”

            ACTUALLY IT IS THE LIBERALS THAT THINK THAT THERE WAS RACIAL MOTIVATION, OOPS ETHNIC MOTIVATIONS.

            “THE LINK REFERENCED WHO THE REAL CRIMINALS ARE, ROGUE POLICE WHO FORGET THAT THEY SWORE AN OATH TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION, NOT TO “GET THEIR MAN, NO MATTER WHAT’. BUT THAT’S THE COP MENTALITY AND ”

            AGREED, COPS ARE WORTHLESS THUGS TOO. WELL, A BIG PERCENTAGE OF THEM ANYWAY.

            “ZIMMERMAN’S AS WELL. ”

            ARGUMENTATIVE, ASSUMES FACTS NOT IN EVIDENCE.

            “YES BLACK ON BLACK VIOLENCE IS RAMPANT AND SAD. THEY ARE KILLING THEMSELVES W/ THE HELP AND BLESSING OF THE LIBTARD LEFT. ITS NOT THE INDIVIDUAL’S FAULT, ITS GUNS’ FAULT.”

            YES, YOU ARE CORRECT, AND UNTIL THE BLACKS TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS, IT WILL NEVER GET ANY BETTER.

            “BEING A MAN ISN’T ABOUT SIZE, ITS ABOUT MENTALITY AND RESPONSIBILITY.”

            YES, AND MARTIN HAD TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS BAD DECISION.

            “ZIMMERMAN SHOULDA KNOWN BETTER, THE KID TOO BUT NOT AS MUCH. AND I NEVER CALLED HIM A CHILD BUT A KID. ”

            IN OUR SOCIETY, WE, INCORRECTLY CALL CHILDREN, KIDS. KIDS ARE NOT HUMAN.

            “TODAY’S KIDS USUALLY DON’T MATURE TIL COLLEGE OR LATER NOT LIKE OUR ”

            MANY NEVER MATURE, MENTALLY, THEY KEEP THEIR IGNORANT FANTASIES OF WHAT THEY THINK THE WORLD SHOULD BE, INSTEAD OF ACCEPTING TRUTH.

            “GRANDPARENTS WHO WERE MEN AND WOMEN IN
            THEIR MID TEENS.

            I AGREE BUT AGE IS ALWAYS CONSIDERED. THAT’S WHY HORRIFIC GUN CRIMES COMMITTED BY MINORS SOMETIMES GET CHARGED AS JUVENILES, BECAUSE THEIR MENTAL CAPACITY TO WEIGH THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS ISN’T FULLY
            DEVELOPED”

            FINE, BUT MARTIN MADE AN ADULT DECISION TO COMMIT AN ADULT FELONY. HE HAS NO EXCUSE, IT WAS INTENTIONAL AND PREMEDITATED ASSAULT.

          • Frank Kahn

            THE TRUTHS OF SOME OF YOUR ASSERTIONS IS VERIFIABLE. THE FACT THAT YOU TWIST THE FACTS, INTO FANTASY, TO FIT YOUR OPINION, IS WHAT MAKES ALL YOUR POSTS WRONG.

            “Walking home ”

            TRUE, SIMPLY WALKING HOME IS NOT A FELONY, IF THIS WAS WHAT HAPPENED, THEN THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN NO REASON TO KILL HIM.

            “or fighting for yr life can NEVER b a felony….”

            BASICALLY CORRECT, BUT IT ASSUMES THAT YOU ARE NOT THE ORIGINAL AGGRESSOR. BY, ACCEPTABLE, CIVILIZED STANDARDS, ZIMMERMAN DID NOTHING TO PROVOKE AN ATTACK. ZIMMERMAN DID NOT ATTACK MARTIN. MARTIN ATTACKED ZIMMERMAN, VIOLENTLY, WHICH IS A FELONY. MARTIN WAS NOT, AT ANY TIME, FIGHTING FOR HIS LIFE. ZIMMERMAN, ON THE OTHER HAND, WAS.

            “unless yr black. ”

            LIBERAL RACIST HYPERBOLE, NOBODY HAS SAID THAT MARTIN WAS A CRIMINAL “BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK”. BUT, LIBERALS SAY, HE WAS JUSTIFIED IN ATTACKING ZIMMERMAN BECAUSE HE WAS BLACK AND FELT THREATENED BY A WHITE MAN.

            “Where’s yr example or evidence where a PURSUER/STALKER/ATTACKER is on the defensive?”

            I ALREADY GAVE YOU THE DEFINITION OF PURSUIT, WHICH SHOWED THAT THERE WAS NO SUCH THING. I CAN, AND WILL, GIVE YOU THE DEFINITION OF STALKING, IF YOU NEED TO READ WHY IT IS NOT TRUE ALSO. BUT, NOBODY NEEDS TO SHOW ANYTHING MORE TO PROVE THAT THERE WAS NO ATTACK, FROM ZIMMERMAN, IN THIS CASE.

            IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO UNDERSTAND YOUR TWISTED IDEA THAT ZIMMERMAN, SOMEHOW, ATTACKED MARTIN. THERE WAS NOT EVEN AN ATTEMPT, IN COURT, TO PUT THAT IDEA INTO PLAY. THE ENTIRE CASE WAS FOCUSED ON AN ATTEMPT TO PAINT ZIMMERMAN AS A RACIST. IT TRIED TO SHOW THAT HE PROFILED A BLACK MAN BECAUSE OF HIS RACE. IT TRIED TO SAY THAT ZIMMERMAN WAS RACIALLY MOTIVATED IN KILLING MARTIN. EVERYTHING WAS ABOUT RACE. THEY DID NOT SAY ZIMMERMAN ATTACKED MARTIN. THEY COULD NOT PROVE, WITH VALID EVIDENCE, THAT ZIMMERMAN WAS RACIALLY MOTIVATED. THAT IS WHY THEY LOST THE CASE. THERE WAS NO RACISM INVOLVED, AND MARTIN ATTACKED ZIMMERMAN.

            SO, AGAIN, SINCE THERE WAS NO PURSUIT, NO STALKING, AND ZIMMERMAN DID NOT ATTACK MARTIN, THERE IS NO REASON TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE WHERE THOSE THREE THINGS ARE PART OF SELF DEFENSE.

          • Frank Kahn

            SO NOW YOU DESCEND INTO MINDLESS BABBLING.

        • Frank Kahn

          Yes, he also used pot, but he used “designer” drugs also that were destroying his organs.

          My son would never do something as stupid as Trayvon. I teach my family how to conduct themselves, properly, in society. I don’t allow racism against anyone. If someone was watching them they would know to seek shelter indoors or to contact the police. The definitely would not act like a racist criminal and assault the person.

          You are projecting in your last statement. It is you that is worshiping the worthless black racist criminal that attacked an innocent hispanic man.

    • Frank Kahn

      MARTIN WAS THE ATTACKER
      MARTIN WAS THE ATTACKER
      MARTIN WAS THE ATTACKER
      MARTIN WAS THE ATTACKER
      MARTIN WAS THE ATTACKER

      IS IT SINKING IN YET, MARTIN ATTACKED ZIMMERMAN, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND

      • Frank Kahn

        Pursuit is a term that is not justified in this case. Zimmerman did not pursue or attack Martin. He followed him for a short time then returned to his vehicle. He was not an aggressor either, he did nothing that would have caused a normal human to fear violence.

        • Frank Kahn

          FIRST OF ALL, ZIMMERMAN DID NOT TESTIFY AT THE TRIAL, HE MAD STATEMENTS TO THE POLICE. IN THEM HE NEVER SAID HE “PURSUED” MARTIN.

          THE FATAL SHOT WAS MADE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ZIMMERMAN’S VEHICLE, WHICH INDICATES THAT MARTIN FOLLOWED HIM BACK TO IT.

          THE WEIGHT OF THE PERSON IS IRRELEVANT. CREEP IS A DESIGNATION GIVEN TO ZIMMERMAN BY BLACK RACISTS.

          The BLACK MAN, had nothing to defend against. It was just in his black racist twisted mind that made this an issue.

          FROM THE WAY YOU TALK, I AM SURE THAT YOU SUFFERED MANY DESERVING BEATINGS IN YOUR LIFE. AND YOU WOULD BE A SERIAL MURDER FOR KILLING THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT GAVE YOU A GOOD BEAT DOWN. IF I SHOT EVERYONE THAT HAS PUNCHED ME IN MY 60 YEARS OF LIFE I WOULD HAVE SHOT ABOUT 10 PEOPLE.

          THERE IS NO DOUBT IN THIS CASE, ALL THE FACTS POINT TO SELF DEFENSE AGAINST A VIOLENT RACIST BLACK CRIMINAL.

          • Frank Kahn

            LET ME DIVERT TO A DICTIONARY AND TEST YOUR THEORY.

            “A STATEMENT IS TESTIMONY GENIUS, EVEN IF IT ISN’T DURING THE TRIAL. ”

            TO TESTIFY (GIVE A TESTIMONY) IN LEGAL CIRCUMSTANCES IS DEFINED IN THE FOLLOWING

            “tes·ti·fy [tes-tuh-fahy] Show IPA verb, tes·ti·fied, tes·ti·fy·ing.

            verb (used without object)

            1. to bear witness; give or afford evidence.

            2. Law. to give testimony under oath or solemn affirmation, usually in court.

            3. to make solemn declaration.

            verb (used with object)

            4. to bear witness to; affirm as fact or truth; attest.

            5. to give or afford evidence of in any manner.

            6. Law. to state or declare under oath or affirmation, usually in court.

            7. to declare, profess, or acknowledge openly. ”

            YOU WILL NOTE THAT IT ALWAYS SAYS “USUALLY IN COURT” WHEN SPEAKING OF LAW. YOU CAN ALSO GIVE A WRITTEN TESTIMONY BUT HE GAVE A STATEMENT WHICH WAS WRITTEN DOWN BY THE POLICE.

            “NO IT WASN’T. HIS WEIGHT MEANS HE WAS SO OBESE THAT HE SHOULD’VE BEEN JOGGING AND MISSING MEALS, ”

            SO YOU ARE BIGOTED AGAINST FAT PEOPLE TOO? MY MOTHER IS OVERWEIGHT, SHE HARDLY EATS ANYTHING. SHE WORKS HARD AT GARDENING AND HOUSE WORK. HER WEIGHT PROBLEM IS GENETIC.

            “NOT MURDERING BECAUSE HE HATED HIS OWN LIFE.”

            SINCE HE DID NOT MURDER ANYONE THAT STATEMENT HAS NO MERIT.

            “THE KID WAS KID, YOU TRY TO CALL HIM A MAN BECAUSE IN YR BIGOTED HITLERESQUE VIEWS YOU THINK IT JUSTIFIES A MURDER. ”

            YOU USE THE TERM KID, TO MAKE HIM SEEM LES CAPABLE OF REASON AND ABILITY. AT HIS AGE, HE WAS MOST LIKELY FINISHED GROWING. HE HAD ATTAINED HIS ADULT SIZE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ADDITIONAL WEIGHT GAIN. HE WAS A YOUNG MAN, AND I WOULD DARE YOU TO HAVE CALLED HIM BOY, JUST BECAUSE YOU CONSIDER HIM A KID.

            “SOMETIMES I DESERVED TO BE BEAT. SOMETIMES I DIDN’T BUT WHAT I ALWAYS DID, WAS TAKE IT LIKE A MAN, ”

            LETTING SOMEONE BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF YOU HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING A MAN. WOULD YOU EXPECT A WOMAN TO LAY THERE AND TAKE A BEATING LIKE A WOMAN? IF THE RACE WAS REVERSED, WOULD YOU EXPECT THE BLACK MAN TO LAY THERE AND LET A WHITE THUG BEAT HIM TO DEATH?

            “SOMETHING YR COWARDLY OBESE IDOL CAN’T SAY. ”

            IN THE REAL WORLD, YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO PASSIVELY LET SOMEONE ASSAULT YOU. YOU ARE ALLOWED, AND SHOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO FIGHT BACK.

            “THANKS AGAIN FOR MAKING MY POINT FOR ME. PUNCHING NEVER JUSTIFIES A MURDER.”

            I DID NOT MAKE THAT POINT. AND THERE WAS NO MURDER.

            “WHERE’S THE EXAMPLE OR EVIDENCE SUPPORTING A PURSUER AS BEING ON THE
            DEFENSIVE. ”

            WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE THAT THERE WAS A PURSUIT?

            “COULD IT BE YOU CAN’T BECAUSE ITS NEVER HAPPENED I THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD?”

            TRAYVON MARTIN WAS A HATEFUL IGNORANT ANTI-WHITE RACIST THAT SUFFERED THE ULTIMATE PENALTY FOR HIS ARROGANT STUPIDITY.

            I APPLAUD THE FACT THAT ZIMMERMAN WAS ARMED AND CAPABLE OF ENDING HIS PERSONAL SUFFERING AT THE HANDS OF A RACIST CRIMINAL. I WOULD APPLAUD ANYONE THAT MANAGES TO BE VICTORIOUS OVER SUCH BLATANT CRIMINAL ACTION.

  • yesterday1

    George left his vehicle cause he was doing his Job, Martin had his hood covering his head and visibility of his face in the rain. Even the critter that cusses George would not have been able to tell what color or nationality that individual was. a very sick comment losing the fight then killing. While the crimminal act, of continually beating his head on the cement would even had ole sicko shoot or kinved Martin. Insitting injustice as this caracter persists on doing I would surely have him under survallance. I’m in my seventies and seen such characters create much hardship on innocent folks while seeking their twisted pleasures.

    • adbj102

      These are leftist street people, they wouldn’t understand Knived, you must say “Shivved” or “shanked” those being the jail langauge of these uneducated people! It’s offically Ebonics!

    • ‘Barbara Messmer

      Don’t know where you have been at all this time, but Mr. Zimmerman did wait for an actual crime to be committed–the crime of assault and it was committed against him by Martin. And no, its Doctors who swear an oath “TO DO NO HARM” and based on reports from the AMA they kill about 100,000 of us each year. When you kill to save your life, it is not murder.

      • Average_Joe56

        I see great minds think alike… ;)

        • Average_Joe56

          yes, you feeble minded, bigoted, hypocritical, morons (like you) do seem to think alike….How sad it must be…to be so ignorant to the world around you…Troll……
          Time to get back under your bridge now…..no more Troll food here…….

        • Frank Kahn

          I KEEP TELLING YOU, JUSTSOMELITTLEBOY, IT IS YOU THAT IS SPOUTING LIBERAL NONSENSE.

          • Frank Kahn

            I am trying to get you to stop repeating the lies. There was no racial profiling, there was no stalking and there was no murder. Martins color was only a factor because Martin made it a factor by being a black racist.

          • Frank Kahn

            ONLY THE IDIOTIC RACISTS LIKE YOU SAY IT WAS ABOUT RACE. HE DESERVED TO DIE BECAUSE HE WAS BRUTALLY BEATING AN INNOCENT MAN. HIS COLOR HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. IF HE HAD BEEN A WHITE, YELLOW OR RED PERSON HE WOULD HAVE DESERVED THE SAME THING.

            THERE WAS NO MURDER, EXCEPT IN THE MINDS OF IGNORANT RACIST LIBERALS.

          • Frank Kahn

            DO YOU ACTUALLY WORK AT BEING STUPID OR DOES IT COME NATURALLY?

            “WHAT IF IT WAS YR DAUGHTER THAT ZIMMERMAN MOLESTED? ”

            SINCE ZIMMERMAN DID NOT MOLEST ANYONE, YOUR QUESTION IS STUPID.

            “WOULD YOU STILL BE LICKING HIS BOOTS AND CANONIZING HIM? ”

            SINCE I AM NOT THE POPE, I AM NOT ABLE TO CANONIZE ANYONE.

            “STOP CALLING THE MURDERER INNOCENT. ”

            HE WAS FOUND INNOCENT BY A JURY OF HIS PEERS, HE IS NOT A MURDERER.

            “IF THE KID WAS A CRIMINAL THAT’D BE A DIFFERENT STORY. ”

            ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT MARTIN WAS A CRIMINAL, WITH SEVERAL OFFENSES PRIOR TO HIS FELONIOUS ASSAULT ON ZIMMERMAN. YOUR STATEMENT HAS NO MERIT.

            “HE WAS THE INNOCENT. ”

            HE WAS INNOCENT UNTIL HE ATTACKED ZIMMERMAN.

            “NICE TRY BUT YOU’VE BEEN FLYING YR KLAN COLORS SINCE THIS ARTICLE CAME OUT”

            I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT.

            I HAVE MADE NO RACIAL REMARKS IN THIS DISCUSSION, IT IS YOU WHO IS PLAYING THE RACIST ANTAGONIST.

      • Average_Joe56

        Did your parents have any children that lived?
        Just curious…since you are obviously brain dead….

      • Robbie

        You start the story way too late.

      • Frank Kahn

        WHAT ARE YOU, A LITTLE 10 YEAR OLD NANCY BOY? DID YOUR MOMMY FORGET TO BURP YOU TODAY? MAYBE YOU HAVE A BAD GAS BUBBLE MAKING YOU SO IRRITABLE.

    • Average_Joe56

      “His job and ONLY job was TO DO NO HARM. ”

      Really? When did GZ become a doctor?

      “Why not wait until an actual crime was committed?”
      A crime had been committed…assault is a crime. When TM assaulted GZ…a crime had been committed and GZ responded appropriately to that crime.
      For future reference:
      We are not helpless victims anymore….we are “concealed carry” human beings…who will defend ourselves ( and any other innocent) against wannabe thugs like TM. If you decide to attack one of us…be informed…you may get shot…you may get killed….because you don’t know who is packing ( I for one am carrying). You may wish to consider my words…..lest you become just another faded memory…..like TM.

      • Robbie

        GZ went after an innocent kid returning from the grocery store. A fight did ensue when GZ caught up with him but there would not have been a fight if Z had stayed in his vehicle as requested by the 911 operator. It’s very likely that in his zeal Z was aggressive towards the kid and the kid merely ‘stood HIS ground’ but got shot for his efforts.

        • merle

          Martin was almost home when gps on his phone showed him hanging up . The fight occured 2 streets away from where his gps said he last was. Martin was the one that backtracked and attacked Zimmermaen . Can’t you read?

          • Robbie

            Gee, what I got from the trial was that Z was in his and he spotted M. Z felt that M looked suspicious when in fact M was an innocent kid returning from the grocery store. Z called police and was told to stay in his vehicle until they arrived. Z went after M. A fight did happen but would not have had Z stayed in his freakin’ car. Z shoots M dead.

      • Frank Kahn

        HAVING A HARD TIME FINDING THE STUPID POST YOU DID TO ME SO I WILL SAY IT HERE.

        YOU ARE WRONG, NOTHING YOU SAY IS THE TRUTH. IF YOU HAVE READ ALL THESE INSANE THINGS SOMEWHERE IT WAS NOT FROM THE OFFICIAL EVIDENCE IN RECORD. ZIMMERMAN NEVER SAID HE ATTACKED MARTIN, NOBODY, IN THE CASE EVER SAID THAT ZIMMERMAN ATTACKED MARTIN. IT IS ALL IN YOUR STUPID HEAD.

      • merle

        People like you are why we need ccp!!!!!Only we are probably alot faster than you with your drug addled mind.

        • Average_Joe56

          I am open to prove you wrong on all counts… all you need to do is…grow a pair…..and set the time and place.

          Before you do, make sure that you understand the rules:

          13 rules of gun fighting that everyone should know:

          1) Guns have only two enemies, rust and politicians.

          2) It’s always better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

          3) Cops carry guns to protect themselves, not you.

          4) Never let someone or something that threatens you get inside arm’s length.

          5) Never say, “I’ve got a gun.” The first sound they hear should be the safety clicking off.

          6) The average response time of a 911 call is 23 minutes; the response time of a .357 magnum is 1400 feet per second.

          7) The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win- cheat if necessary.

          8) Make your attacker advance through a wall of bullets…you may get killed with your own gun, be he will have to beat you to death with it, because it will be empty.

          9) If you are in a gunfight; If you are not shooting, you should be loading. If you are not loading, you should be moving. If you aren’t shooting, moving or loading; you’re probably dead.

          10) In a life and death situation, do something…it may be wrong…but do…something!

          11) If you carry a gun, people call you paranoid…Nonsense! If you have a gun, what do you have to be paranoid about?

          12) You can say ‘stop’ ‘alto’ or any other word, but a large bore muzzle pointed at someone’s head is pretty much…. universal language.

          13) You cannot save the world, but you may be able to save yourself and your family.

          BTW, being fast…doesn’t hit your target…being accurate however…does.

          Gun control means…being able to hit your target… consistently…..I rarely (If ever) miss my target.

    • bob arnold

      oh and since when is being attacked not a crime,the police would have arrested Martin for assult if they had got ther earlier.
      it hard to believe ther is so many idiots out there that think Martin was the hero

      • bob arnold

        i do not know what you have heard all this time,but Martin atttacked Zimmerman not the other way around,Zimmerman is the one who got his head bashed against the concrete not Martin even if he followed martin that does not give Martin the right to attack Zimmerman.Martin is the one who commited the crime by attacking Zimmerman.
        please go back and look at facts or go back to sleep

        • merle

          Why don’t you put away what you are smoking or drinking and read the actual report before you make anymore stupid comments.

      • merle

        He definately was no hero. That is why he was at his dads because his mom couldn’t control his worthless ass.

    • ibn insha

      Banging somebody’s head against concrete is not crime? May be Zimmerman should have waited until he was bashed to death.

      • bob arnold

        where did you ever come up with Zimmerman attackig martin when it was the other way around and martin did not have the bruises on him it was Zimmerman,and while we we are doing maybes,maybe if martin went home instead of waiting to attack Zimmerman or maybe if he stayed home and studyed where he lived in south florida he would not have been shot,you are in a dream land and do not even know that martin was the attacker and would have been arrested for assult if he lived.but why confuse the issue with facts

        • merle

          God, some of these people are soooo stupid!!!

      • merle

        Zimmerman did not say he attacked!! He said T.attacked him Get yuor facts straight. I hope some night you are put in a position where you think some one is going to beat you to death . Then let’s see what you do!!! Martin was thug and wouldn’t have lasted another 2 years the way he lived.

  • IsThisAmerica

    Oh Lord will they ever drop this? I saw that ad on Hannity and if Zimmerman sees it he should sue them for false advertizing. Everything on that ad is false. Nothing on that ad actually happened. They make it like Zimmerman was a predator. JUST DROP IT!

    • Average_Joe56

      They are still bringing this up…because they are coming after the guns again. They need to gin up the hate and fighting in order to gain back their waning support from the liberal gun grabbing base. In order to sneak their legislation through…they must keep us divided. Do not be distracted by this…stay focused.

      • IsThisAmerica

        I’m so focused on what they are trying to achieve, I’m scared. It goes well beyond gun grabbing.

      • bob arnold

        what a joke you are,how about the liberty to walk with out getting attacked or did you forget Martin attacked Zimmerman while Zimmerman did not even approach Martin,how dumb can you be

    • Robbie

      He was. He was needlessly suspicious of a kid going home from the grocery. He went after the kid even though the 911 operator told him to stay put and wait for police. He followed the kid and confronted him because some kind of fight ensued and the kid got shot.

      • CommonSense4America

        Absolutly do not let the facts get in the way of your ranting.

        • Robbie

          O.K. you three folks commenting above are correct. According to you – and you are correct remember – GZ was walking along at night and minding his own business. He was just out for a stroll when suddenly a hooded assailant who was up to no good jumped out from behind a tree and attacked him. Zimmerman had no warning that attack would happen as he was just minding his own business. Luckily Zimmerman had a gun and shot the attacker who clearly wanted to do harm to him. There you go. GZ really had no choice but to pull out his weapon. Case closed!

          • CommonSense4America

            I guess you just can’t keep from lying can you? Does this rant make you feel better? Wouldn’t it be easier to just tell the facts as they came out in court? Why do you Liberals always want to twist the truth to match your agenda?

          • Robbie

            Get out a dictionary and look up the word sarcasm.

      • bob arnold

        as usual another idiot with the wrong story,rember Martin attacked Zimmerman not the other way or i guess you think it is alwright to attack some somebody because they are following you then you are an example of you can not fix stupid

      • ibn insha

        How do you it happened? Martin could not speak and Zimmerman did not speak in court. Acquittal was based on circumstantial evidence. You must have some supernatural powers to know the unknown but I am sure you do not have brain power.

      • jaybird

        Your should have watched the trial, then you would have heard the truth. It did not happen the way you just wrote it and I am not going to explain it because your mind is set. I watched the whole trial and justice was served.

        • Robbie

          The bottom line REMAINS that Martin was an innocent person walking back from the grocery store and he ends up shot to death.

      • Frank Staples

        Geez, another one that apparently didn’t bother to read the papers. I won’t bother to correct you either…but as jaybird said, justice has been served. What?? Are you related to that justsomeguy libtard???

    • merle

      We should file a mass law suit

  • Sarah Conner

    They won’t stop until they have total control of our guns,our faith,our children,our food,our Constitution,our Amendments and all of our values and traditions…almost there aren';t they…from my cold,dead hands and a little surprise for them when they move my body…KABOOM…LMAO…

  • hippybiker

    Duncan, OK. Three young black males that were bored shot and killed a white Australian man just for a thrill. These are “Savage Negro Beasts” akin to the “Knoxville 5 and the Carr brothers in Wichita, KS. They are for the rope.

    • jag

      They should of shot those PUNKS DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!NO TRIAL! THE GUY THEY SHOT FOR FUN! BORED! NO TRIAL WILL SUFFICE!!!!!!!!!!CROOKED JUSTICE SYSTEM!!!!!! VERY BROKE!!!!!!!!!

  • Larry

    “We are told NOT TO judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few
    lunatics.”

    BUT…

    “We are encouraged TO judge ALL Gun Owners
    by the actions of a few lunatics.”

    Funny how that works…..

    • jag

      Larry u have a good mind…..wanna b prez.? God knows we NEED someone in there with a brain

  • Dave

    Once again. Where is Obama, Jackson and Sharpe? When these blacks are killing for fun. I never see them gathering and telling them “thats not right”. NEVER! Where are all you protesters at to. If your so damn anti-gun and against STAND YOUR GROUND. Why ain’t you gathering around the court room to make sure these black boys. Get what they got coming to them. WHERE IN THE HELL ARE YOU? Where are you when the gangbangers rape and murder a young girl. Where are you,when seniors are being robbed or murdered. Where were you when the girl was stabbed repeatedly by a black guy in front of her house? Now, who are the damn racist? Its alright until it becomes your race. Then its time to protest and riot. Theres know protest against gangbangers, none against pimps(using your own race to be sex slaves and kept on drugs). And the 3 morons i mentioned at the top of this comment. They are always preaching about Martin Luther King. Well, they need to do some reading. His own niece says, they are not doing the work of her uncle. I don’t agree on everything Dr.King had to say. But, he is turning in his grave right now. READ UP! And the blacks always saying its the Republicans. Well, your evidently uneducated. You also need a history lesson. I may not write(type) well. But, here is a quick history lesson. A Republican freed the blacks, republicans have done nothing but try to help blacks rise up. Instead of keeping you down. Obama to the rescue,right? Well you better look and look good. He isn’t for your best interest. Keeping you on welfare, cutting down on help for college or education, Obamacare-second rate health care. Is that really what you want? This is 2013. Get it together.

    • Average_Joe56

      Amazing how strangely silent they are…when it’s black on white crime…..but if you even say the “N” word…it’s a national travesty and must be put down like an animal.
      If they don’t like being called the “N” word…maybe they should stop acting like one.
      N1993r…is not a color…it is an attitude. Lose the attitude…and you lose the word…..the choice is just that simple. If someone acts like a N1993r…they’ll be treated like one (regardless of color)….FACT!

      • merle

        you need to heed your own words in reverse!

  • dan

    They don’t like the constitution…they don’t like America or Americans…
    They don’t need no steenkin’ law …they MAKE the law and change the laws
    to whatever they FEEEL like.

  • denis fb

    Its not the gun ownership that is the critical issue…It is the proper useage of guns. self defense is the ONLY reason to take the life of another…For Zimm to call that episode self defense is a stretch to say the least.. Fists against gun…How fair is that??? Zimm now has very bad kharma…stay tuned for more news on how much longer Zimm lives…He took the life of an unarmed teen…that act must be punished eventually…

    • bob arnold

      you are full of it,since when do you have the right to attack somebody even if you think you are being followed,unfortunatly martin picked on a guy that had a gun

      • Jeff

        The problem is we don’t know that’s what happened. Trayvon can’t tell his side of the story. The winners write history, and the shooters who survive these encounters get to “testify.” At the very least, his story should be regarded with skepticism. I don’t think his version of the facts was tested nearly enough.

    • ibn insha

      I would like to see you defend yourself with your fists against a thug with history of violence.

      Good people have to arm themselves because they do not know who they might have to defend themselves against and good people should not have to worry about bad people’s preparedness for the fight. When one’s head is being bashed against concrete he does not have time to tell the other party to wait until he can get a referee and have a fair fight.

      You are just another liberal who would like to see the right side loose to evil just so that you can proclaim equality. You will continue to live in fools paradise until one day you get pummeled to mashed potato. Cowards like you are dangerous for society. Since we cannot put you in jail for the rest of your miserable life I do hope that you and people like you would drop dead soon enough. Till then, have a nice life.

      • Patriot747

        YES, Absolutely, and NOW these evil Demorat communist’s want to take away my right to defend my family, property, and right to life period. There are thousands of people getting murdered with knifes, and illegal guns by the DRUG CARTELS, including dismembering innocent human beings, in Human trafficking, selling drugs, while the LAPD, NYPD, Miami PD, etc. look the other way. Look, It takes 45 minutes for the police to respond to a domestic violence crime call in the city of Los Angeles. Who is going to protect you from the rape, pilage and murder from these G-dLESS thugs which OBAMA/HOLDER have armed through FAST and FURIOUS………WHO? Yourself, thats who! Nobody else cares about your family nad well being except you. No police dept. today will help you like they did back in the 1950’s. That’s gone. Wee NOW have a POLICE STATE WHICH OBAMA/HOLDRR have forced on the people of the United States of America. IMPEACH THEM ALL! THEY BROKE THEIR OATH OF OFFICE!
        OBAMA/HOLDER AND their ISLAMIC presidential staff need to resign and be thrown out of OFFICE. THEY NEED to BE made examples of!

      • Patriot747

        YES, Absolutely, and NOW these evil Demorat communist’s want to take away my right to defend my family, property, and right to life period. There are thousands of people getting murdered with knifes, and illegal guns by the DRUG CARTELS, including dismembering innocent human beings, in Human trafficking, selling drugs, while the LAPD, NYPD, Miami PD, etc. look the other way. Look, It takes 45 minutes for the police to respond to a domestic violence crime call in the city of Los Angeles. Who is going to protect you from the rape, pilage and murder from these G-dLESS thugs which OBAMA/HOLDER have armed through FAST and FURIOUS………WHO? Yourself, thats who! Nobody else cares about your family nad well being except you. No police dept. today will help you like they did back in the 1950’s. That’s gone. Wee NOW have a POLICE STATE WHICH OBAMA/HOLDRR have forced on the people of the United States of America. IMPEACH THEM ALL! THEY BROKE THEIR OATH OF OFFICE!
        OBAMA/HOLDER AND their ISLAMIC presidential staff need to resign and be thrown out of OFFICE. THEY NEED to BE made examples of!

  • Vash the Stampede

    Tough that is what the law says assault is not you. Why did he not call the police instead. Like Zimmerman did. Assumption is the mother of a F UP’S. Martin attacked first.This made him the aggressor. THE END The evidence also showed he was shot at a upward angle not a downward. And not in the back of the head like that painting shows.

  • Frank Kahn

    BARE HANDED ASSAULT CAN AND IS CONSIDERED ATTEMPTED MURDER. NOT HAVING A GUN DOES NOT MAKE YOU INNOCENT OF ASSAULT.

  • Frank Kahn

    AND YOU ARE USING EMOTIONAL RACIAL HATRED TO FUEL A BIASED OPINION OF WHAT YOU THINK MUST HAVE HAPPENED INSTEAD OF WHAT IS DEMONSTRABLE.

    THERE WAS NO STALKING, AND MARTIN WAS NOT PURSUED.

  • Vash the Stampede

    stalk·er

    /ˈstɔkər/ Show Spelled [staw-ker] Show IPA

    noun

    1.

    a person who pursues game, prey, or a person stealthily.

    2.

    a person who harasses another person, as a former lover, a famous person, etc., in an aggressive, often threatening and illegal manner: Hollywood stars often have security guards to keep dangerous stalkers at bay.