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Guantanamo Bay: Which Side Is Obama On?

March 27, 2013 by  

Guantanamo Bay: Which Side Is Obama On?
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It has been four years since President Barack Obama promised to close down the military prison in Guantanamo Bay.

Once more, Barack Obama has shown himself to be a pathetic President. The latest disgrace of the vaulted liberal leader is his failure to stand by his conviction to shut down Guantanamo Bay (Gitmo).

It has been four years since Obama promised to close down the military prison. Now, he wants to provide $196 million in renovations and new construction as requested by his new Secretary of Defense, Chuck Hagel. Obama has decided keeping enemies of the United States comfortable is more important than meting out justice.

General John F. Kelly, the chief of the U.S. Southern Command, testified before Congress last week that repairs and upgrades are needed at Gitmo, including two new barracks and a new mess hall.

It is ironic that up to 100 “detainees” are on a hunger strike.

Rolling Stone reported: “Eight of the hunger strikers are being force-fed through a tube, a process the United Nations has previously classified as torture. Two hunger strikers have been hospitalized for dehydration.”

I am a libertarian through and through. I say if they want to starve themselves to death, let them — especially if these individuals want to inflict terror against Americans.

What does our President want? He wants to spend money America cannot afford to keep “detainees,” doublespeak for prisoners of war, more comfortable.

Regarding Gitmo, the Obama Administration is dead wrong. It is a classic case of Obama’s wanting his cake and eating it, too.

Obama should either:

  • Choose a speedy trial, a basic right to defendants which would also give closure to the victims of those atrocities.
  • Or deal decisively with Gitmo prisoners if they remain a clear and present danger to the United States.

Last month, The Daily Beast summed up America’s blundering President regarding Gitmo:

The Obama administration insists it’s doing everything possible to fulfill the president’s pledge. “We are absolutely still committed to closing Gitmo,” National Security Council spokesman, Tommy Vietor, said in an interview. He put the blame elsewhere, saying, “The unfortunate reality is that Congress has gone out of its way to prevent us from doing so, but we still believe closing the facility is in our national security interest.”

Yet experts say the chances of Gitmo closing, at least before Obama’s out of office in 2016, are exceptionally slim.

“Guantanamo is not going to close any time soon,” said Thomas Joscelyn, a senior fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, a right-leaning think tank. “There are too many problems to solve. There are still Yemenis who can’t be repatriated to their home country, there are detainees too dangerous to transfer anywhere and quite a few prisoners who the administration says they cannot try in an open court.”

There is another irony about the President. Last Friday, the Federal Aviation Administration announced that it will begin closing 149 air traffic control towers starting on April 7. The Transportation Security Administration also claimed sequester-caused airport security delays are on the horizon. That means more time at the airport and compromises safe travel.

Meanwhile, Obama is cutting defense spending as part of his $85 billion in automatic spending reductions.

Obama wants to slash spending on the very mechanisms that would prevent another attack against American civilians. Whose side is the President on?

Kill ’Em Or Clear ’Em

I love World War II history. I am proud of my Canadian roots and my American citizenship. I take extraordinary pride that during World War II, the Black Watch of Canada and the U.S. Airborne dealt decisively with the fanatical SS troops that they fought against — fanatics like the 12th SS Panzer Division Hitlerjugend who refused to take Allied prisoners. They executed hundreds of Allied soldiers outright. In some cases, they even crucified them against trees and buildings. That terror was met in kind by our fathers and grandfathers who mostly accepted the surrender of Wehrmacht soldiers but had no dealings with the SS.

In an article in the Daily Mail, Antony Beevor, a noted historian and writer of World War II, summed up the allied actions of Normandy against the Germans:

With revenge on their minds and nerves still taut after the jump, the American paratroopers-blood was up. A trooper in the 82nd remembered his instructions only too clearly: ‘Take no prisoners because they will slow you down.’

Stories about German soldiers mutilating paratroopers inflamed the Americans still further. A soldier in the 101st recounted how after they had come across two dead paratroopers ‘with their privates cut off and stuck into their mouths’, the captain with them gave the order: ‘Don’t you guys dare take any prisoners! Shoot the bastards!’

Fast-forward six decades and we have Obama who not only wants to hold terrorists but also wants to save them from self-starvation and provide them better living conditions.

Are we at war or are we not? If we are, Obama needs to find some resolve and deal with our enemies. If not, he needs to send these Gitmo prisoners to trial.

Of course, Obama won’t do either. He lacks the gumption to take a stand on Gitmo, just as he lacks it with regard to almost everything else.

Love their politics or hate them, President Franklin D. Roosevelt and his top World War II commander in Europe and future President, Dwight D. Eisenhower, dealt with America’s enemies expeditiously. Obama refuses to stand against them. He stands for higher taxes and greater entitlements. That makes him not only an ineffective leader but also a dangerous one.

Yours in good times and bad,

–John Myers
Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • DockyWocky

    A hank of rope, a nearby lamppost, and all these problems would be history

  • Flashy

    John…first of all, if you hurry, you may be able to get your money back for that haircut. Whoa ….

    Gitmo. You seem to miss out the fact that when President Obama first took office, he proposed bringing Gitmo detainees to the US mainland to stand trial. A trial in a civilian court, giving them access to hear the evidence aginast them and fully recognizing their human rights and rights due under our system of justice. Holding them in Super Max prisons while in trial and after any convictions.

    The GOP extremists in Congress went nuts. Those nut jobs (also including I believe PLD authors) cried how dare we even think of bringing accused of crime to the US to stand trial ! how dare we even begin to think of observing the rights we allow in any prosecution…the right to counsel, the right to see the evidence against them, the right to question and challenge the charges, the right to public hearing of the trial. The right to a jury. How dare we! And to bring them to the US Mainland to stay in a SuperMax facility? My gawd…treason ! That was your cry back then.

    i know…i know..what was then used to inflame the troops beguiled by the trilogy of fear, angr and ignorance is relied upon to switch sides and just jhappen to now take the opposite stace…knowing that the minions will easily cnform and now spout diametric opinions from what they previously stated were “absolutes”.

    FAA and Defnse cuts. Might as well also toss in some trash along with your garbage eh? Seems to me, the Congressional GOP leadership and the President agreed to the sequester back in 2011 becuase the results would be so horrific, so unplatable..no one in their right mind would allow it to occur. Well…the House allowed it to go into effect, as demanded and pushed by the TP extremist members. Proving the original concept correct…no one in their right mind would have allowed the sequester to take effect.

    Y’all go what you wanted…now you cry about it?

    • Warrior

      Well, if I can’t get them into u.s. court, than I’ll just have to use drones to do the court’s work.

      Nice try though!

    • Alex

      Now, listen Flashy—In my life I do my best to not poke fun at others based on such superficial criteria as looks, but hey, that is one bad clipping on Mister Myers head! It’s like Flock of Seagulls had a baby with Adolf Hitler…

      • Flashy

        Alex…maybe the chicks like the “wild man” look ?

      • Texas Ride

        Flashless, I am sure you don’t know what the “chicks” like!

      • Jo

        Your best counter argument is Myers’ haircut? You must have failed every class in school that required a real argument; that required you to think. Myers’ argument is plenty flawed. A few brain cells would tell see that. Instead, and behind annomous names, with no picture of you, you call that Myers’ kid with the bad haircut.

      • AS Green

        If you try Alex you don’t try very had. Myers’ argument is pretty weak but really you can only argue against his haircut? You and Flashy, the two dummies at the back of the class picking on a kid that presented an idea. Here is an idea. Pick up a book. Send in you photos and credentials, if you have any, which I doubt.

        • Jeff

          Mr. Green, it’s so good of you to take time away from your important work at Johns Hopkins to speak with us on this eminent Wingnut Blog. Your credentials, of course, are beyond reproach. Give it a rest. Half the people on this blog are nuts, and the other half have nothing better to do than laugh at them. You figure out who’s who.

          • Howard C

            The CIA created the terrorists that we face today. You people that still think that the US is the moral high ground… Do you think all of these people in the middle east just decided to start hating America?? Our government has been meddling over there for the past 75 years. Our CIA is the reason that there is a dictator in charge of Iran. Our government placed Saddam Hussein in power in Iraq. Our CIA trained Osama Bin Laden to fight against the Russians in Afghanistan. You think that we should be able to occupy other countries and that the citizens of those countries should not fight against our soldiers?? The ones fighting against our soldiers over there are not “terrorists” nor are they “insurgents”; NO they are FREEDOM FIGHTERS!! Our soldiers are the terrorists!! Regardless if they are forced to be over there or not. Before you say that I am anti-military note that I am a veteran. I just understand that this country is not “bright light” that many here think it is. 55,000,000 and counting have been MURDERED legally in this country since Roe vs. Wade… How’s that for your “Moral High Ground”??? Everyone of those prisoners in Gitmo believe that they were fighting for whats right. The USA has brought everything that is happening to it upon itself. We are responsible for the enemies that we have around the world. The Corruption that is Washington D.C. and the indifference of the people in this country are the reason why so many hate us. We pick and choose which dictators we remove and we never go up against a country that can put up a fight against us. Saddam was so bad that he needed to be overthrown by us for what he did to the people in his country. Well what about China?? Oh… you mean we aren’t going to hold them responsible for the genocide that they have committed and all of the human rights violations to include forced abortions through their 1 child policy?? That’s right… they have Nukes and a Billion Man Army so we won’t mess with them. Not to mention they make all the cheap BS that we buy at Wal-mart while paying the one who make the crap PENNIES. That’s okay though because it’s not happening in the US so we will just turn a blind eye. Pride comes before a fall and the bigger you are the harder you fall which means that when the USA finally does fall it will the worst collapse of an empire in history. That collapse will be here very shortly…

          • Texas Ride

            Howard, sounds like you need to move to another country since you think so little of this one (or maybe you are in another country.) You don’t sound American.

            In 1786 the Ambassador from Tripoli told his American counterpart, when asked why moos hated Americans, “It is written in the Koran that all Nations which do not acknowledge the prophet are sinners and that it is the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave them.” America was only a fledgling country at that time. The first attack on American interests were muslim pirates looking to enslave Christians.

            It is not America’s policies that are the problem with these people, it is the cult itself that is the problem. Islam is the only organization in the world that kills those that refuse to submit. It is the only cult in the the world that aspires to “world domination” and tries to call it a “religious duty.”

            So, get off your “high horse” and stop beating up this country that is filled with good people that are kind and generous to many nations around the world. Too kind and generous..way too kind and generaous. You will never hear me claim that foreigners, slaying American soldiers, are “freedom fighters.” Your statement is “repugnant” and a slap in the face to everyone.

            Where I do agree is that we should stay out of countries and the problems they create and their wars that have lasted for thousands of years. These cretins do not want freedom and are not up to the challenge. It is not easy to be a “free country” it comes with many personal responsibilities and moral substance….like not hanging school children from the ceiling, until dead, when they do not memorize their koran scripture for the day. Only a moral people, can handle freedom. An immoral nation garners immoral leaders, that establish immoral and unjust laws on the people.

          • Fargo

            That was very well stated. History does repeat occasionally and guess what? I think we’re going to get a re-run of something that isn’t very nice. It might be that the Bilderberg Club thinks that they can get Obozo to go Hitler on us and actually win. There is no doubt that our illegal B Hussein O is greasing the skids for a confrontation against the middle class peasants, because after all, that’s what his masters expect. When they kick the ball down-field, it’s going to get real messy. We the Peasants can requisition all or much of that ammo (& weapons) that the DHS has purchased, and wont say why. I think we all know where the lines are being drawn.

          • Howard C

            Did you read my entire comment before you responded?? How would you react if another country tried to invade the US?? Would you not take up arms against them? Well that is what those people in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan are doing against their invaders… The US. Our soldiers should not be over there, they should be here defending our border against all of the mexicans crossing over everyday. You say, “Only a moral people, can handle freedom. An immoral nation garners immoral leaders, that establish immoral and unjust laws on the people”. So you think that the US is the moral people?? Have you turned on a TV lately? I’ll repeat, 55,000,000 and counting have been MURDERED legally in this country since Roe vs. Wade. I’m not unamerican America is not the same America it used to be and I don’t like that.

          • Fargo

            I believe you have a valid point. Corruption in the US is as old as (almost) dirt.

    • Capitalist at Birth

      How soon we forget. The United States Senate has been controlled by the Democrat Party since January 2007. (Which is why the deficits during G.W. Bush’s two terms rose dramatically the last three years.) But I digress. The Democrat Party controlled both houses during the first two years of Obama’s first term. Are you aware that a majority of Americans were against Obama’s and Holder’s radical ideas on Gitmo? Once again I find it necessary to admonish you on the time you spend writing your drivel on this site. You need to spend more time reading. Do you have a library card?

    • http://ybob555@aol.com Bob

      Seems to me you convieniently forgot to mention that there were 6 Democrats along with the six Republicans that came up with the sequester bill. And if the President thinks it’s soooooooo bad now, why did he sign it. Didn’t he , like Nancy Pelosi said about the health care bill, read the bill or did he sign it to see what was in it?

      • Chester

        Bob, that bill was written, and signed, simply because it was the ONLY way at that time to get the necessary increase in the debt ceiling. It was NEVER expected to be allowed to take effect. The fact that it has happened speaks volumes about the intractability of certain members of congress. Again, their mantra of “My way or the highway” has come home to roost, and they STILL insist on getting everything ” their way.” God save the Tea Party crowd, as their actions certainly won’t help them with the rest of us.

      • Jeff

        As I recall, he signed the sequester bill for at least two reasons (probably many more). First, no one thought the sequester would actually happen. Obama continually underestimates the foolhardiness of the Republicans. Secondly, the sequester was the immediate solution to the hostage situation in which the Republicans were threatening to default on U.S. obligations. That would have been a knockout blow to the economy while the sequester is just a body shot. Fortunately, we have an actual grownup in the White House to deal with the juvenile delinquent Congressional Republicans.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Bob, Jack Lew and Obama came up with the sequester and suggested it to Harry Reid, then he got six idiot Republicans to go along with the idea.

        • Jeff

          I’m sure you were there at the conception, but regardless of the circumstances or who suggested it first, it is the Repugs who have embraced it. What is conveniently forgotten in these silly conversations is why the sequester was put in place. It was necessitated by the Repugs refusal to raise the debt ceiling, thereby threatening default for the first time in U.S. History. Now, I know for big-time capitalists like you and The Donald, default and Bankruptcy are just business decisions. You know, screw the other guy before . . But the nation’s credit is a bit more important. The old adage about owing the bank $1,000 vs owing a billion doesn’t really apply. It is imperative the nation pays its bills. Obama, being an adult, realized he had to make a deal to get the juvenile delinquents in Congress, led by Boehner and the Tea Party Wackos, to “allow” us to pay our bills. Funny how the Repugs never act that way when a fellow Repug is president, isn’t it?

  • Pamela Symonds

    Although I appreciate your desire to hear my opinion, through the survey sent to my e-mail. I am confused as to how to express it.
    Your questions do not allow me express my concerns about the Republican party.
    You ask for my feelings on how the party views certain things, but will you interpret my
    answers as for or against?
    I am ultra conservative, that is why, at this time, I identify with the Republican party.
    However, the platform seems to be unstable. If the party continues with a conservative,
    Pro-life, small government, traditional marriage between one man and one woman platform,
    I will continue to identify with it.
    When you talk about a new face, are you talking about abandoning all that is right
    and good and becoming a reflection of the Democratic party? Where is the sense in that?
    If that happens, I will certainly abandon you.
    Pamela_goodrode@hotmail.com

    • Jeff

      Pamela:

      We know you “ultraconservatives” are one gay child away from changing your attitudes toward gay marriage. What if a friend were laid off because Mitt Romney closed the factory where he/she worked and shipped the jobs to China? Do you think that might moderate your views – at least a little?

      • Warrior

        Hmmm, the transmission on my 2011 buick, made in germany, just failed. I’m all for polygamy! Do we have a majority? Do we even have a quorum? What’s your point?

      • STEVE E.

        Jeff, If I were you, I would say screw what anyone or what the government says, and just marry the man you love so much anyway.

      • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

        Terror and unconstitutional wars feeds the American Military industrial Complex and Terror industrial Complex and in America today they’re businesses to big to fail.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

    The 10th anniversary of the Guantánamo Bay prison was marked with protests last November 2012, as closing the controversial detention facility remains a promise unfulfilled for President Obama.

    Obama campaigned on closing the facility in Cuba and, in one of his first actions as President, issued an executive order calling for it to be dismantled within one year. But as he entered the final year of his first term, human-rights groups were dismayed that the end of Guantánamo is nowhere in sight.

    While he remains committed to closing Guantánamo, the president has been hampered from making progress due to (opposition from both parties), and he signed a law in October 2012, that placed (HEAVY RESTRICTIONS ON TRANSFERRING ANY DETAINEES OUT OF THE FACILITY).

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/203727-obama-promise-to-close-prison-at-guantanamo-still-unfulfilled

    It appears then, that the desire to keep Guantanamo-bay in “operation” is something the President and both parties do agree on!

    So the question to everyone here; why are we wasting our time trying to affix the “at-fault” label to anyone in particular…since all involved, from the President on down, are all in agreement to keep Guantanamo-bay open for business? What a waste of time…!

  • Jeff

    Yes, FF, Obama is paying me to disrupt you because if left non-disrupted, you alone will bring down the Administration. If you’ll examine my posts, you’ll see that when someone posts seriously, I respond in kind. When someone starts with the Muslim/Kenyan/Marxist tin foil hat stuff, I like to have a little fun. Sue me.

    • Alex

      A+

    • FreedomFighter

      Muslim/Kenyan/Marxist tin foil hat stuff, I like to have a little fun. Sue me.

      I will do even better than Sue you, I will pray for you, that you may some day have clarity of mind, and become a responsible adult that contributes to society in a positive way.

      Laus Deo
      Semper FI

      • Jeff

        And keep your comments within the realm of reality. You dislike Obama? Fine. Say why, but don’t put out this idiotic stuff about Kenya and Marxism. Obama is no closer to Stalin than you are to Einstein.

      • Texas Ride

        Jeff is living in some kind of “upside-down world!”
        When a libturd starts telling Conservatives to keep their posts within the limits of “reality” you know the libturd has got to have a ….mental disorder.

        All radicals on this board live in an alternative universe where “real rules, facts and reason” don’t apply.

        • Jeff

          Texas Twit:

          Do you ever say anything that isn’t your bigoted opinion or some fantasy language you share with your intimates like Glenn Beck? You don’t analyze and ultimately disagree with the merits of some Obama position or proposal. You name call villify, deride, and seek to dehumanize your opponents. I cannot engage in serious dialogue with someone like you. For you, Obama is forever the “other” and anyone who disagrees with you is somehow corrupt or unAmerican. It’s what’s called “stupid thinking.”

        • Nelson Nolley

          What we have for a presidential leader is a gutless whiny liberal ward thug from murder town. He and those of his ilk think they are better than the rest of us. How can those people whom voted for these socialist and communists stand themselves when they wake up in the morning. He is one of the biggest flip-floppers right now.

          • Bob666

            Yo Nelson ,
            are you referring to Romney or Obama?

          • Jeff

            Nelson, do you take special moron pills or does it come naturally? Don’t attempt to define an issue and discuss it. That takes way too much effort. Just call anyone you don’t like a Commie and be done with it. I’m certainly glad we’ve left cretins like you in the nation’s rear-view mirror.

          • Texas Ride

            Jeff the Village Idiot, get your facts straight. Seventy percent of this country thinks obammie is comprable to a (I can’t even say it on the internet.) So, get over it! Let him eat baloney sandwiches three times a day, like his brothers in Gitmo. How about sequestration-cuts for the tribe in the White House.

            You libs talk big, but you can’t justify any of the actions of the third-world losers that squats in the oval office. Who other than some cretin would pay Millions of Dollars to hide all his personal documents from Americans and hire Twelve law firms to do it. Who but some cretin would go by different aliases and use multiple social security numbers. That is what criminals do, not what your average American presidents do!

          • Bob666

            Yo Ride,
            “Seventy percent”

            Source?????

          • Jeff

            Bob:

            Source? The Texas Twit? Why, it’s his *ss, where else? Have you noticed the way he can ape human phrases like “village idiot” and “cretin”? If one didn’t know better, one could almost think he’s human. Think he’s related to Donald Trump on his father’s side (the Orang)?

          • Bob666

            Yes Jeff,
            I believe Ride may be in the Primate section of the Texas Zoo.

          • Jeff

            Texas Twit:

            You are still loony, but thanks to me you occasionally use words that make you appear semi-literate. I’ll send my bill in the morning.

      • Texas Ride

        Jeff the Village Idiot, that just “rips my heart out” because you won’t dialog with me! Ha!
        How much fun is this!

        We all know that “homo boy” is a moo! We all know that he was born in Kenya, because he and moochey both said so! His admission form for Occidental claims that he is Indonesian. So you are the one wearing “tin foil” and must be on mind-bending drugs to enhance reception.

        • Jeff

          Texas Twit:

          While your “views” may be popular in the Confederacy, in the U.S. you’d be a candidate for a rubber room (I’m sure you’ll ape that one, too). You seem awfully sure about the Presidents predilections. One must ask – How do you know so well? Sounds like you speak from personal experience. Generally the loudest guy in the locker room (That would be you) is deeply in the closet.

          • Jeff

            Maybe Samurai will perform the service.

  • Smilee

    Obama was blocked from closing this prison by congress and if it i was up to him he would but it is not within his power to do so. W still own it and have to maintain it. This article totally distorts the reality so it is nothing more than a lie.

  • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

    John Myers say, “Once more, Barack Obama has shown himself to be a pathetic President. The latest disgrace of the vaulted liberal leader is his failure to stand by his conviction to shut down Guantanamo Bay (Gitmo).”

    Well John, ~ This only proves that “O” is not a dictator and neither can he “walk on water” , for if he could ~ GITMO would be closed today.

    That other nations do not want many of these GITMO detainee create a vexing problems.

    For better or worse ~ it appear this abomination and violation of human rights has left a wound that will not heal, something that cancer is noted for. ~ and Gitmo is a cancer America contracted after exposure to 9-11 and a terrorist threat.

    No one would wish for a Cancer.

    Obama guilt lies wanting to right irreconcilable wrongs and the US be found cancer free.

    All I can say is, ~ being in the wrong place at the wrong time has cost many death and suffering. ~ and I don’t have the answers to right all wrongs ~ and I darn say neither do you.

    So does human limitations ~ make Obama “pathetic” ? ~~ I tend to see us all pathetic in that regard.

    Gandmaw’s soap can’t wash clean everything while that is not a bad reflection on Grandma or her Industrial grade lye soap.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Don

    Fargo, Pay no Attention to the Jeff who Obviously is as blind as a bat or just plain dedicated to the D Rendition. Old Jeffy Boy will wake up when the Muslims are Crashing in his Door, Killing his Family and then him. It seem all of the D’s that I have ever Met, Can’t see through Obamas Celophane Shield he wears. His Cloak is Crystal Clear to all who even know what our Constitution is all about. Jeffy Boy seem to think the Freedom he Lives day by Day, Comes Free of Charge. This Boy needs to get av grip on how that Freedom Comes to him. Freedom is not Free. Our National Cemeteries are full of our Brave Freedom Fighters that gave this Democrat and his Family the Freedoms they Share. We are very Near a War in this Country and then Jeffy Boy will Find out just how Free he is Through Obama. Best Dreams. Don

    • Jeff

      Don:

      Your posts clearly illustrate your insanity. Paranoid schizophrenia is quite treatable now. Please seek help before you do something even stupider than the things you likely do every day.

  • Michael J.

    We should look to Al Qaeda prisoner detainee camps for design inspirations. Facilities molded by their peirs should be more acceptable to Gitmo detainees.

    Oh wait a minute, Al Qaeda doesn’t take prisoners except those held for ransom or propaganda purposes. Hmmm, this is also instructive.

  • Michael J.

    Dear Mr. Myers
    Enjoyed your informational article, as usual. But can’t help thinking that because The White House is now off limits to the peasantry, a third term would bring about a new moniker describing this once great nation… The United States of Obamica???

  • Warrior

    Looks to me like “gitmo” is about to go “green”. I wonder what “LEED” level they’ll achieve? How many “credits” does one get for “recycled prayer rugs”? Who gets to pick the new colors? I understand Sherwin Williams just introduced a new vibrant “jihad biege” that may work nicely with those carpets. Oh, the choices we must make!

  • Tom Scott

    The whole concept of ” war on terror ” invented by Bush administration is moronic because is not saying who is the enemy, where we gotta fight and how long or how to define the victory in this case. Until they will admit that this stupid ideology called Islam is the cause of terror end deal with the enemy accordingly there willbe no end of this conflict no closing of Gitmo.

  • Michael J.

    On second thought, maybe granting them US citizenship and the issuance of identifying arm bands (like Germany’s Jews in WWII) labeling them as Christian Conservatives would be deemed by the left as appropriate punishment.
    Maybe RFID implants which is reminiscent again of uncle Adolf’s serial # tattooing of the Jews.
    Add to that the necessity to find a job and pay their “Fair Share” in support of the burgeoning entitlement sponge class.

    Now that’s what I call Justice, Though the ACLU would probably classify the act as “Cruel and unusual punishment”

  • Mike

    Public and televised beheading comes to mind.

  • Bob666

    John,
    were do you come up with these pointless subjects to write about?

  • Jeff

    Yes, calling all Wingnuts! Focus all your attention on denying Obama a 3rd term. No more FDRs. Pay no attention to Hillary. You guys are so gullible you’ll actually engage in speculation over how to prevent something that WILL NOT HAPPEN.

  • nc

    Michael j, you are way late on a third term for Obama! Your wingnut brothers here have already so correctly(?) predicted that before the 2012 elections he would cancel them and declare himself a dictator! That did happen didn’t it? They were so sure!!!! They must be crushed!

    No other President in our history took office with the economy on its’ knees and two wars he didn’t start> Ever wondered how much that added to the spending needed had those wonderful(?) conditions not existed? The man before him inherited NONE of that and still set a record for debt accumulation! I remember another Republican who inherited nothing like Obama had to face and he set a record by tripling the national debt!
    Have you ever wondered why that terrible ACLU ever bothered to come to the aid of the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Ollie North. and Sweep Hannity to protect their Constitutional Rights???? Could it be that that is what they really do?? Protect the Constitutional Rights of citizens REGARDLESS of their political persuasion?? Those are not the only CONSERVATIVES they have represented in the past! Look it up!! You might want to check their record in courts!!! They have done a he!! of a job of “interpreting” the Constitution according to the Federal Courts established by our wonderful Constitution to make such decision! If you would take a weekend off from this site and faux noise and spend it in a law library that contains the US Supreme Reports you may find that many of your “interpretations” have already been decided to be incorrect!!

  • Alex

    You fail to mention that it is Fright Wing GOP hysteria that has kept Guantanamo Bay open for business.

    President Obama is clearly damned-if-he-does and damned-if-he-doesn’t with you folks.
    Without a doubt, however, your whining about Guantanamo Bay remaining open is but a wisp of smoke compared to the tornado of fire you would unleash were these political prisoners rightly brought to the US for trial. Hypocrite!

    As for your digression into the dark Netherworld of the Schutzstaffel—-NEVER forget that Reich Wing superstar Ronald Reagan, between trading arms-for-hostages and arms-for-drugs, lay flowers at the graves of SS officers in Bitburg, proclaiming the dead SS to be (here I quote the EVIL man himself), “victims, just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps!” And you think President Obama is a jerk?!?

    Though Reagan’s rotting corpse fouls the air in Ventura County, his Soulless Being burns in Hell—right between Josef Stalin and John Wayne Gacy…

  • Jeff

    Myers leads a rich fantasy life. He actually thinks his little game of criticizing Obama regardless what he does means something. Can you imagine a person so stupid as to actually change his opinion based on something written by such a pathetic writer?

  • http://ybob555@aol.com Bob

    Alex,
    You forgot to remember that it was Obama who said this, & the fact that his party controlled Congress (both branches ) the first 2 years of his administration. They could have done anything they or he wanted, because as you liberals always remind others, he won the election. He is serving his 2nd term, can’t do another, so why should he care who he pi**es off. The “right winged GOP” was in the MINORITY, so why be concerned with them? Could it be that, he & the Democrats noticed that the American voters just “loved” what they were doing in those first 2 years, so they through them out of the House majority & voted the GOP in.
    “Dammed if he does or doesn’t” is BS, he could have closed it but didn’t. The GOP people who were objecting, was not because of the closing, it was for bringing them to the U.S.& holding civilian trails.here. They should have been tried by a military tribunal @ Gitmo a long time ago, & either put in prison or if found not guilty, set free. If Obama is so committed to closing the place, why spend the money to improve it? Where’s the money coming from? I thought “sequestration cuts” were going to be so painful, but I guess just to the American people, not to foreign terrorists though.
    Tommy Vietor, the National Security Council spokesperson is as full of sh*t as Obama, blaming someone else (Congress) for not closing it. Democrats HAD control & did nothing.
    Same old “point the finger at someone else” mentality as his boss Obama. No leadership what so ever.

  • FreedomFighter

    Stupid People
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rh6qqsmxNs&feature=related

    Didnt take long to spot ya.

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

  • ASM

    Spending all this money to provide comfort to the enemy when the nation is bankrupt is a,pointless topic?

  • Alex

    Sadly, yes.

    All one needs to do is read the postings of the average PLD reader—-the same tired GOP squawking points, over and over, undiluted by a SINGLE original thought.

    Reading these over time, you can see how the Memes of Ignorance and the shrapnel of the Faux Noose lexicon take hold—most of the PLD readers throw out terms they have never considered until the words were loosed upon the public by the Right Wing media—terms like ‘sequestration’, ‘Saul Alinksy’, ‘debt ceiling’, ‘entitlement’, ‘insurgent’, ‘nullification’—-I thought they were sheeple but they sure have a streak of parrot in them…

  • Flashy

    I laugh when these extremists call up Lenin, Mao, Stalin, Hitler…mixing up the ideologies and philosophies lumping them all together…then labeling anyone who is left of Attila the Hun as followers. When, if they thought about ti for a second, they’d realize that it is they who espouse bringing down the current system, of undoing social movements giving voice to all. It is they who are fering their status and culture and want to revert back to the ‘good old days”…fearing the future and seeking leadership ormising them safety and cushioning their fall from their own oligarchical system they have lived in (white, male, christian, gun totin’ )…it is they who eat up slogan such as ‘keep your powder dry”, it is they who decry and go overboard about not being able to overthrow the government..on and on. Who feed and need to feel anger, fear, live in ignorance to legitimize their existence and feeling of importance.

    Their “leaders” soaking them for every dollar they can, leading them to extremist positions and paralyzing the government at all levels. Limiting and restricting the votes of others not like them. Creating a “we” versus “them’ social structure and mindset. Exactly what Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Franco etc…all used so effectively.

    They are so blind with hatred, fear and ignorance….

  • Nadzieja Batki

    Flashy, you yourself are a Leftist extremist alongside Jeff and Alex. Your little coterie are pretty desperate with your foolish verbiage. Why are you so desperate to deny your ideological buddies like Stalin, Lenin, Hitler et al? Those predatory thugs and tyrants gave you your Leftist heritage which you are following alongside O and all the rest of the thugs and tyrants of the world.

  • momo

    Flashy says:”Their “leaders” soaking them for every dollar they can, leading them to extremist positions and paralyzing the government at all levels. Limiting and restricting the votes of others not like them. Creating a “we” versus “them’ social structure and mindset. Exactly what Mao, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Franco etc…all used so effectively. ”

    You mean like your hero Obama’s doing?

  • Texas Ride

    Flashless, you just fell off the “edge.”

    And, we all voted you as “wingnut of the day.”

  • DockyWocky

    Personally, I believe that the first mistake made was ever admitting we had terrorist captives. After all, what are we dealing with? We called them terrorists, caught most of them in the act, then we treat them as if they deserve humane treatment and let them make a joke out their confinement to the point where most of them feel like they’re on vacation.

    Some of them may actually sue us to keep them confined at GITMO.

    In a world that only respects power, coddling terrorists doesn’t make us look respectable. It makes us a world joke.

    We can surmise how the Chinese or Russians would have treated similar terrorists. Are they wrong?

  • Jeff

    Yes, “Alinsky” – that foreign-sounding, Jewish name. It conjures up fears deep in the recesses of the Wingnut “mind.” Sounds like Trotsky so Alinsky must equal Stalin. Probing the “thoughts” of these rubes is quite interesting as it illustrates Hofstadter’s theory of the “paranoid style.” It reminds me of the JBS meetings we attended in high school. We thought those people were putting on a show for us and that nobody could really be that crazy.

  • STEVE E.

    FF. That video explains it all.

  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    I wouldn’t go so far as to say Obama said: “Stand by his convictions” when a man like him has no convictions. His mentor is Stalin and Stain said: “promises are like pie crust, made to bo broken”. There is no morality or conscience to the man. He’s amoral, pure and simple. To him he can’t lie because there’s no truth in him. When he speaks you can’t detect when he’s lying because everything that cames out of his mouth is the truth, for the moment. Guantanamo’s very existence is unconstitution and amoral. The scum in government had to build outside what they think is constitutional bounds. The “prisoners” have been denied a trial by jury nor have they been charged for any crimes. In to many instances they’re there because one of their own enemies turned them in to collect a bounty offered by America. A speedy trial use to be an American principle. Not anymore. These prosoners are a showcase to tell Americans that “Terror” is real. Their existence justifies the DHS, and the terror that DHS reigns down on the American people.

    END IT. Bring our troops home from foreign lands. Quit meddling in other people’s affairs instead of working to build the American empire making us look like to the world the Hitler’s and Stalin’s of days gone by. You’ve all heard the definition of insanity, well judge for yourselves, are we insane for not following our God given Constitution and Bible, and not forcing our employees in DC to do the same?

  • Bob666

    Yo F/F.

    Good to hear from you, are the medications working?

    Lapis reprobatus caput anguli

  • Jeff

    FF must be proud to have so inspired a national treasure.

  • Karolyn

    That’s right, just imitate the enemy, imitate the things we are against. Talk about hypocrisy We are supposed to be better than them.

  • lindaS

    micheal j. you are right on! my thoughts entirely!!!the (superstar in D.C.) is too busy bankrupting this country and giving our tax money to terrorist countries and “oh”upgrading the acccomdations for gitmo,than caring for the America that we hold so dearly in our hearts!!!!!!!!!

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing WTS/JAYS

    How can Guantanamo be closed unless first, you transfer the “Detainees”?

    However, on December 4, 2012, the Senate “approved” a (defense-policy bill) that calls for a fast transition in Afghanistan, orders a study of U.S. military options in Syria such as imposing a no-fly zone, and “restricts” President Obama’s authority to transfer detainees from Guantanamo Bay.

    The bill passed 98-0, putting the Senate on a collision course with Mr. Obama, who has threatened to “veto the bill”, in part, (because he objected to the ban on transferring detainees from the facility at Guantanamo Bay).

    What could be the reason for the “impasse” in regards to this “issue”?

    It seems clear to me that the reason to “prevent” the closing of Guantanamo-bay, is that, before Guantanamo-bay can be closed, a “new facility” would have to be constructed on American-soil first, where the detainees could then be transferred…now, if it should come to pass that the Guantanamo-detainees were to be detained on US soil, the detainees, it is feared, could then become the beneficiaries of “rights” afforded under the 5th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution which are generally reserved for U.S. Citizens. This is the “right” to avoid coercive self-incrimination, or the right to remain silent during questioning…

    It is perfectly understandable, therefore, that the President and the Washington-bureaucrats would engage in a “shell-game/blame-game” as to who is really responsible for the continued existence of Guantanamo-bay, as the “alternative-option”, would create a new set of political-problems that i’m sure (all) who depend on politics for their “livelihood” would like to avoid.

    Is it Obama’s fault? To suggest that the Guantanamo-bay issue is entirely Obama’s fault is to suggest that Obama is not politically-shrewd…unfortunately, the evidence since 2009 to present, proves otherwise.

    Is it the fault of one particular party?
    For anyone to suggest that one party is exclusively-responsible for this “issue” or any other, is for that someone to reveal they do not understand the first thing about the political-game!

  • Jeff

    Besides, isn’t Limbaugh the spitting image of Herman Goering?

  • Texas Ride

    Along with baloney sandwiches three times a day and pink undies, maybe a good dose of “water boarding” should be included in the daily activities instead of all the “spa-club” activities. These are “war criminals”…right? They were captured on the battlefield…right? They did have weapons that they were using to kill Americans…right?

    The only reason to take prisoners is to interrogate them. After that they are useless to us. Of course, we could bring back the “chain gangs” and at least get some work done! Chain gangs were good enough for American criminals.

  • tony newbill

    Common Jeff its getting Embarrassing to watch you DROOL over Obama like this all the time , man none of them are worth drooling over !!!!!

  • Texas Ride

    Jeff, is only fulfilling his “tribal-worship of obammie” quota. He must grovel so much each day to prove that he is worthy member of the “Tribe of obammie” so that he can still go to “spear chucking classes” and get his merit badge.

  • Ken10

    Congressional Republicans have done their best to reduce the number promises President Obama can keep to the minimum possible. Closing Guantanamo is one of them. It just put off something that needed, and still does, to be dealt with. There are not enough hours in the day for to Obama to be responsible for all the accusations made about him in this column by its author and readership. Perhaps Mitch Mcconnell can limit him to two terms.

  • Texas Ride

    But, Jeff, you practice your “spear chucking” on this board everyday! It must be like your “Homework.”

  • deerinwater

    “spear chucking”? ~ Like Karloyn is wondering, ~ can you elevate your discourse. ~ or is this all you have to throw? And if this is all that you’ve got, why would you expect a response for anyone?

  • Jeff

    Texas . . . .

    “Along with baloney sandwiches three times a day and pink undies, maybe a good dose of “water boarding” should be included in the daily activities instead of all the “spa-club” activities. These are “war criminals”…right? They were captured on the battlefield…right? They did have weapons that they were using to kill Americans…right?”

    In most cases, WRONG! Most of the people in Gitmo did nothing. Some of those have been released, but you can be sure there are still people being held there without trial guilty of nothing. I know you believe in the 2nd Amendment, but there’s also a Constitution attached to it. I know the rights of other people don’t mean squat to a real man like you so long as you can bed down with your guns, but keep it to yourself. And the Constitution doesn’t apply just to Texas morons, either.

    Were you drunk during the ENTIRE Bush Administration?

  • Alex

    Texass Ride wants foreign combatants to torture American soldiers. So sad….

    What will TexRide say when families of American GIs ask her why she is on board with the whole torture thing?

  • Texas Ride

    Jeff says: “In most cases those in Gitmo did nothing wrong….”

    So the Village Idiot is stating that our soldiers just went out and captured “innocent people” and had them put in Gitmo? These people that have done “Nothing Wrong” they just happened to be on the battlefield, trying to kill Americans and they didn’t really mean to shoot at our soldiers. Your status as Village Idiot is secure, Jeff!

    These people are worthless to us and we need to dispose of their “Spa-club Status!”
    Where is Sheriff Joe! Put these cretins in tents, pink undies, give them a diet of baloney sandwiches three times a day. No more internet, no more libraries, no special food, use the koran for campfires so they can keep warm. When they piss on our soldiers and throw their shet at them these cretins need corporal punishment….like rub that shet all over the cretins and make them wear it.

    Take these cretins out to work on chain-gangs so we can get something for what that baloney costs the taxpayers. Apply sequestration to Gito, instead of to the American military! Obammie and his tribe are enemies of this country.

    Liberalism is a mental disease..We see it everytime there is a liberal post.

  • Texas Ride

    And to alex, you sound like a “Twisted” Village idiot.

    I think you should join your fellow cretins in Gitmo and enjoy the company of all those “upstanding citizens from the camel-dung countries.” That is where your allegiance belongs…with those of “like minds.” You and old Eric, since he used to be the attorney for these cretins before he was appointed to be Chief of DOJ by obammie!

  • Texas Ride

    Jeff the Village Idiot, I am glad that you refuse to “dialog” with me. Oh well a limp-wristed idiot can change his mind.

    Jeff, Jeff, Jeff (since you like seeing your name in print) just because prisoners are let out of jail by obammie doesn’t mean they haven’t commited a crime!

    Obammie has his minions release criminals from our jails frequently. The last time was just a few days prior to the sequestration-cuts. But, before we go further, these are NOT criminals and the terrorists don’t belong in civil courts like guys that were robbing the local E-Z Mart! That is exactly what libs like you want because “most of these prisoners have done nothing wrong.” Your words.

    As far as the Great State of Texas, come on down and we will show you around! Of course it might be uncomfortable for a radical lib, being with all us.. White, Patriotic Americans that are “packing.”

  • FreedomFighter

    You can prove the Bible and demonstrate its origin.

    An Extraterrestrial Message – Chuck Missler
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1QdUhNY6DnY

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

  • Nadzieja Batki

    You voted in O, so why are you not satisfied with O?

  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    Jeff, Do you have to resort to four letter words to try to get your point across? I would like to hear where I am wrong to raise my own understanding but you don’t say anything.

  • Jeff

    Tony:

    If you insist on misreading my posts, at least let me know which one you’re misreading.

  • Texas Ride

    Karolyn, how many battlefields have you been on?

    To win a “firefight” one needs to “fire back.” Your response would indicate that we not fire “because we don’t want to be like them.” What craziness, but you are right in step with this regime. Our troops are wondering when they are going to get some of that ammo from DHS, or maybe a couple of those 2700 tanks just purchased. Or, American soldiers might be able to go get some of the tanks obammie sent to the Muslimbrotherhood in Egypt!

    Libs like you and the rest on this board need to be at the front of these battles, taking bullets! Bleeding-heart “foo foos,” and limp-wristed weinies are all I see here.

  • momo

    Jeff says: “I have as much combat experience as Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Bush”

    In other words you have none, just like Obama.

  • Texas Ride

    Good grief would any “real person” vote for something like “Swift-boater” Kerry!

    Oh, I forgot, you libs probably think Munster Kerry is a “hero.”

  • deerinwater

    Texas Ride says; “To win a “firefight” one needs to “fire back.” Your response would indicate that we not fire “because we don’t want to be like them.” What craziness, but you are right in step with this regime.”

    I think Karloyn is suggesting to elevate ~ the discussion. Just because someone throws a sink at you don’t not mean throwing a commode back is “winning”.

  • Nadzieja Batki

    Firstly, the sham hunger strikers are not going to starve to death so they should not even be force fed. All the abstainers from food are doing is manipulating the guards and everyone else and cleaning out their bodies from the inside out.
    Why are Americans so dumb to believe the manipulaters?

  • http://ybob555@aol.com Bob

    I wonder who your referring to when you say “THEY”? It certainly isn’t the Bush administration, “they” have been out of office for over 4 years, do you mean the present administration, who changed the name & concept of “war on terror or the word terrorists” to something else.” I guess the act of terrorizing a person or a whole nation into being afraid to fly, or other things, being in some foreign country in the Middle East, & being fearful of being killed, isn’t “terror”?. The enemy is anyone who will try to inflict their way of life force-ably on others by killing them or harming in some way, your or my way of life. It will be fought wherever it happens, for as long as it’s happening, because you can’t deal with those who don’t value life, only their ideology of what it should be.
    True, until “they” recognize the Islamic ideology for what it is, take the gloves off, stop being so “politically correct” & deal with terrorists on their level ( no rules ) the “war on whatever you want to call it” will probably never end.

  • John Myers

    For Ed Darrell to suggest that I support the terrorists must mean I did not write my column clearly enough. My suggestion is that a group like the Black Watch handle them with extreme prejudice. That was the reason I included how Allied special forces dealt with the SS in World War II.
    Sincerely,
    John Myers

  • Capitalist at Birth

    LMAO!

  • Jeff

    FF:

    Do you get Chuck’s messages via tin or aluminum foil? Or is it through your dentures? Keep fighting freedom. Elect another Bush!

  • Vicki

    Thank you FF. That was a delightful presentation.

    Semper Fi.

  • Jeff

    I have as much combat experience as Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Bush, but then I never shot a friend thinking he looked like Tweety Bird. Maybe guns and alcohol don’t mix too well? I’m sure you were the decisive difference in every battle since the Alamo.

  • Jeff

    TDM:

    Your racist diatribes may win you some friends among the really Loony Right, but to most people reading your posts, you’re just another Texan – all hat and no cattle!

  • Jeff

    Are you talking to me? I don’t understand the question or how it flows from my post. Perhaps you could elaborate and elucidate a bit.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Theresa

    Obama it certainly looks like is trying to help the terrorist. Many of his actions are not good for Americans. Maybe if we let him pull stuff long enough he let them go home so they can visit their friends and relatives. A Muslim that had been put in prison some time back for highjacking a plane and killing some 200+ Americans was released a while back by one of the Obama appointees. He wanted to visit his relatives before he died because he had cancer, boo hoo. I personally can’t see any of these things as being right, or showing to me that his concern is for our country and our citizens. I think his loyalties are elsewhere; Americans need to wake up and put a stop to his bad decisions and at time illegal actions. I know of no country, including the US that has ever treated political personers like they were some type of royalty. Then on top of it all, he cuts our defenses, come on!

  • Jeff

    Once you compare someone to Stalin (or Hitler), you’re in a zone outside Marquis of Queensbury Rules. I guess I’m always amazed at self-professed Christians being the most vociferous voices for unbridled capitalism regardless of the consequences. Hardly what you’d expect from Jesus.

  • Jeff

    Theresa:

    I know only a limited amount of information gets into the bubble, but this misinformation is beyond the pale even on this factually dubious blog. The terrorist you’re referring to was released by a Judge in Great Britain so he could go home to die in Libya. He did finally die but around a year or more after he was released – not the shorter time frame envisioned. As far as I know, Obama had nothing to do with appointing that, or any, judge in the United Kingdom. Obama, and the UK officially opposed the release, but if Fox and the rest of the Wingnuts want to blame it on Obama, no one can stop you. But you should know it’s malarkey!

  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    Theresa says: “Obama it certainly looks like is trying to help the terrorist.”
    Theresa, he is a TERRORIST.
    Theresa: “Many of his actions are not good for Americans.”
    Theresa, ALL his actions are not only bad for America, they are destructive for America. The Korrupt Kenyan Kriminal is accomplishing his promise “FUNDAMENTALLY transforming the United States of America” by his EVIL vision.
    People’s House – White House – is usurped by the Kenyan Kriminal bastard.
    Here is Major General Paul Valley talking about the corruption in our judicial system, Courts and Court Martial System. He also talks that Ten retired CIA Agents and Investigators looked at O’homobama’s ‘birth certificate’ and 10 out of 10 said it is FRAUDULENT.
    http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/06/fox-news-contributor-major-general-paul.html
    “For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.” – Jesus Christ (Mathew 10:26; Luke 8:17)
    “Great is TRUTH, and mighty above all things.” (2Ezdra 4:41)

    Theresa, pass it on. Spread the TRUTH about the Kenyan Kriminal in the White House.

  • Vicki

    Jeff writes:
    “[ad hominems and arguements to ridicule deleted]”

    It would help if both of you provided links to your assertions.

  • Vicki

    Jeff says:
    “Vicki:

    There were no ad hominems involved. ”

    Actually there were. The fact you do not see them (hint: Bubble) does not change the fact that they are there. I did notice that you did not deny your argument to ridicule so it is interesting that you do not see your ad hominem since they are quite similar.

  • Vicki

    Ken10 says:
    “Congressional Republicans have done their best to reduce the number promises President Obama can keep to the minimum possible. Closing Guantanamo is one of them.”

    And how pray-tell did they do that? Democrats had full control of both houses for 2+ years.
    Till the house majority went back to Republicans in 2011.

  • Michael J.

    Jeff,
    If facetious sarcasm such as this goes over your head, then you have proven your status as an Obama-Borg… Resistance is futile to only The Messiah’s doubtless devotees who are the first to be eliminated once the full-blown Communist Regime comes completely out of the closet.

    BTW, from which government teet do you nurse? Or are you a true believer, A perfect-worlder, or leftover hippie ideologist? Peace Baby!!!

  • pissed off & liberal

    Maybe i missed it but Mr Myers seems to forget that over half the people ther have ALREADY been cleared.

  • Jeff

    I assume you’re asking about the Libyan convicted in the Lockerbie bombing? It was a big deal in the news a couple of years ago. I’m sure you can find it.

  • Jeff

    Vicki:

    There were no ad hominems involved. Your default position is Obama did it even when he clearly didn’t. I pointed that out. If you or the poster feel ridiculed, then educate yourself before you spout stuff that’s clearly wrong.

  • Jeff

    Does he need to have served? Did you vote for John Kerry because he served?

  • Jeff

    That’s easy to answer. Texas Twit is all for water-boarding and more – as long as it’s being done to somebodyelse. It’s consistent with the Repugs’ first Commandment: “I got mine; f.u.”

  • Jeff

    All I said was Obama will NOT run for a 3rd term no matter how many times you guys claim it’s in the works. It’s paranoia pure and simple.

  • Vicki

    Since the system (operator error :) didn’t place the comment where it belonged I will add the link here that FreedomFighter presented.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1QdUhNY6DnY

  • Vicki

    Hmmm. will this comment appear in the correct place?

  • Vicki

    Nope its broken.

  • Smilee

    You do not understand the senate filibuster, the republicans can block any bill as they have enough votes to do so thus fully blocking the democrats and Obama and that is what they have done, you seee so out of touch with reality and how government actually works.

  • Vicki

    Smilee says:
    “You do not understand the senate filibuster,”

    I understand it quite well and am enjoying its use by an actual statesman named Paul (Rand Paul). I however noticed that the senate in those years had a filibuster proof majority and that no filibuster was used.

  • Smilee

    Filibuster proof only existed from July 2009 until January 2010, Franklin took his seat in July and Brown in January so that only lasted for 6+ months. That is why they could not block the affordable care act, aside from that time frame I do not remember another time in recent history when there was a filibuster proof senate so the republicans since 2007 anyway have blocked a large share of democrats bills. They do not compromise thus grid lock. Them is the real facts

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Don

    I Wrote a Reply Above to John Bookbank. I hope my Reply did not fall on Deaf Ears. Obama Must be Taken out of Office Now. It is Clear that he is not for America but Rather for the Conversion to Islam for America. The Extermination of the Middle Class. The New World Order. The One World Government where he Controls All. Every One Please Read the Koran, Qur’an. You will see what and where Obama is Heading. Read the History of Hitler. Obama is Following His Lead 100 %. Obama is Following the Koran, 100 %. The Only Way to stop the Loss of America is to get him out of office on Treason Charges to our U.S. Constitution, Our Civil Rights and for his Constant Attempt to Destroy Especially our Second Amendment Rights as Written in our Constitution. Please read my Reply to John Bookbanks Post Above. Thank You. Don

  • Bob666

    Yo Jeff,
    ” Limbaugh the spitting image of Herman Goering?”

    Now that you mention it……………………..

  • Texas Ride

    The “cult of terrorism” is the only organization in the world that seeks to “Kill those that will not be converted!”

    It is an organization of hate, that spreads itself by war, the torture and death of the innocent. Obammie is trained in all aspects of this cult and has admitted great respect for all it offers. We see this everyday in how he rules our country.,

  • Jeff

    “Liberalism is a mental disease..We see it everytime there is a liberal post.”

    Texas Twit:

    Finally discussing a subject you know something about, huh? And I see you agree with that other lunatic, Michael Savage. Your issue is not with me or with liberals but with facts and reality. Many, many, and I believe most, of the Gitmo prisoners have been released because there was no evidence they did anything. Have any been given a hearing – either in a military tribunal or a Court? Very few if any. Most have never even been charged with any wrongdoing.

    I know in Texas due process doesn’t mean much, but here in the U.S. we pride ourselves on NOT sinking to the level of the lowest common denominator. You and Sheriff Joe Mussolini can talk all day about dehumanizing people, but our status in the world drops a little every time you do so. Meanwhile, if you were in charge, nobody would have any rights except white Christian Texans who vote Republican. No thanks.

  • Jeff

    Have you looked up the facts about the Lockerbie bombing suspect, Mizrahi? Did Obama personally unlock his jail cell and drive him to the airport? I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings, but I get a little tired of you right wingers thinking you have license to make up any facts you want and blame everything you don’t like on Obama. It’s insulting to the intelligence.

  • WTH

    This man should receive a medal for being the worst President the United States has ever had. He is a pathological liar and has sold his soul to the devil probably to save it but we all know how that goes.

  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    Theresa, the Kenyan’s KRIMINAL Selective Service Registration Draft card is also FOURGE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHAM3hRI8_Y

    And how do you think: Would any HONEST man have MULTIPLE names:
    Barack Hussein Obama a.k.a. Barry Soetoro a.k.a. Barrack Obama a.k.a. Barrack Dunham a.k.a. Barry Dunham a.k.a. Barak Mounir Ubayd a.k.a. HARRISON J. BOUNEL.

    “For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.” – Jesus Christ (Mathew 10:26; Luke 8:17)

    “Great is TRUTH, and mighty above all things.” (2Ezdra 4:41)

    Theresa, pass it on. Spread the TRUTH about the Kenyan Kriminal in the White House.

  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    Theresa, you MUST listen this investigator. He is talking about people, who helped to the Kenyan Kriminal commit crimes and cover them up.

    At least 12 people were murdered to keep the Kenyan Criminal’s QUEER pass hidden.
    People in Kenya were killed as well.

    And you will find WHY NBC is in bad with the Kenyan Kriminal.

    You also will find about Obama Sr.’s lies to Harvard.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/markgillar/2013/03/16/expert-predicts-prison-time-for-those-whove-helped-obama

    “For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.” – Jesus Christ (Mathew 10:26; Luke 8:17)

    Theresa, pass it on. Spread the TRUTH about the Kenyan Kriminal in the White House.

    “Great is TRUTH, and mighty above all things.” (2Ezdra 4:41)

    “Fiat justitia ruat caelum” – “Let justice be done though the heavens fall”

  • Texas Ride

    Alondra, go for it! And, don’t forget about the 30 or 40 social security numbers he has used.

  • http://personalliberty Alondra

    Texas, here is some information about the Kenyan FRAUD Social Security Numbers:

    Investigators, using Intelius, Lexis Nexis, Choice Point and other public records, found around 25 Social Security numbers connected with barack obama’s name.

    “All told, there are 49 addresses and 16 different Social Security numbers listed for a person whose name is spelled “Barack Obama.” In some cases, the middle initial “H” is listed. If you were to expand the search to include closely related names such as: “Barac,” “Barak,” and “Barrack” Obama, you would find MORE THAN A DOZEN ADDITIONAL ADDRESSES AND SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS.”

    “Finally, the one Social Security number the Charlatan most frequently used, the one beginning with 042, is a number issued in Connecticut sometime during 1976-1977, yet there is no record of O’homobama ever living or working in Connecticut. Indeed, during this time period he would have been 15-16 years old and living in Hawaii at the time.”

    Here is the link with details: thefogbow.com/special-reports/social-security-number/
    “For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known.” – Jesus Christ (Mathew 10:26; Luke 8:17)

    “Great is TRUTH, and mighty above all things.” (2Ezdra 4:41)
    Theresa, pass it on. Spread the TRUTH about the Kenyan Kriminal in the White House.

  • Bob666

    Yo Pork Rhine,
    ” you keep posting and we will keep laughing”

    The frightful engines of ecclesiastical councils, of diabolical malice, and Calvinistical good-nature never failed to terrify me exceedingly whenever I thought of preaching.
    – John Adams, letter to his brother-in-law, Richard Cranch, October 18, 1756, explaining why he rejected the ministry

  • Jeff

    Alondra:

    Here’s a clue. The next time a man grabs his eyes in writhing pain after you “flash” him, don’t assume it’s because he’s gay.

  • robbiefine@hotmail.com

    Why are you complaining about the President not closing Guantanamo? You didn’t want him to do so. Said it would be wrong to do so. And when he does what you said was right you jump all over him. It is this sort of contrary way of acting that turns voters off the GOP.

  • http://naver samurai

    You are right. He is also the only one to not have full employment opportunities for the people after WWII. This should tell us something. Here is an article explaining what I mean.

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cbo-america-will-never-see-full-employment-under-obama

    FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

    You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

    “History will also afford ferquent opportunities of showing the necessity of a public religion…and the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern.”

    Benjamin Franklin

  • Fargo

    The side that Obama (or whoever he is) is on is not the side of the constitution, because he perjured himself both times he took the oath. This is allowed under the Muslim system/excuse of “taqqiya” and is a form of “civilization jihad” which the “so called” POTUS is exercising with the help of a compliant and cowardly congress. The word traitor is too weak to describe the (non) actions of the so called Republican opposition. The Republican Scumbats have been taking money from the same __s-holes that their counterparts do. The entire left/right paradigm is a scam. They are all guilty of bankrupting the nation, but now we have a foreign entity in the WH that no one will move against. It’s time to “party” if you catch my drift.

  • Jeff

    You guys should team up and file a lawsuit. The movie will be called “Twit and Twitter’s Excellent Adventure.” You could be played by anybody with a hat. As for Alondra, they might have to use a cartoon character.

  • Jeff

    And the ones released by W? What makes them criminals – your idiotic opinion? No charges, no trials, no nothing, but they’re criminals. Scooped up in their own countries, taken overseas to be tortured, dropped in Gitmo. Probably none of that info is available in your part of the world. So, anyone released by Obama is a criminal? My God, you’re insane.

  • Jeff

    In comparison to W and Cheney, two more Texas Twits? Absolutely.

  • Bob666

    Yo Ride,

    “Oh, I forgot, you libs probably think Munster Kerry is a “hero”

    when compared to Bush, Cheney and Rummy, Yes.

  • Jeff

    We already have our fair share of lunatics here, but you sound like a dangerous lunatic. We all know the only kind of “party” you wingnuts would attend involves guns. I hope the Secret Service finds you and sends you to Saudi Arabia for rendition.

  • Jeff

    Texas Twit is like a drug dealer who uses up his own product. The right wing loons make up stories about John Kerry or whoever, then they start to ACTUALLY BELIEVE them.

    I guess I’ve just given our Texas Twit a few more phrases he can “ape.”

  • Smilee

    That filibuster did not succeed, so whats your point my point is that it is now used as a veto power in the senate not it’s original intention. Paul is popular within his party but lacks appeal to the voters at large whom most see him as an idiot.

  • Jeff

    “Filibuster-proof” in theory only. Even if the democrats hold 60 seats, 4 or 5 of those are senators from conservative states who will often vote with the republicans. So, in reality, on most issues, the Democrats had maybe 56 votes. That should be enough for a majority and throughout history it would have been. The Repugs have abused the filibuster over the past 4 years to the point of non-recognition, conducting more filibusters in that short time than in the entire recorded history of the US Senate. Part of me (most of me) wants to see McConnell get beaten and take his rightful place on K Street. The perverse side of me wants to see him one day as Majority Leader and the Democrats do to him what he’s done.

  • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

    Sounds more like Browser problems Vicky. Noticed anything odd lately?

  • deerinwater

    Nope! it the site !

  • Bob666

    Worked for me, I just have a limit of ten minutes for you-tube videos.

  • Bob666

    Yo Ham Hock,
    You keep posting and we stay amused!

    The father of this country was very private about his beliefs, but it is widely considered that he was a Deist like his colleagues. He was a Freemason.

    Historian Barry Schwartz writes: “George Washington’s practice of Christianity was limited and superficial because he was not himself a Christian… He repeatedly declined the church’s sacraments. Never did he take communion, and when his wife, Martha, did, he waited for her outside the sanctuary… Even on his deathbed, Washington asked for no ritual, uttered no prayer to Christ, and expressed no wish to be attended by His representative.” [New York Press, 1987, pp. 174-175]

    Paul F. Boller states in is anthology on Washington: “There is no mention of Jesus Christ anywhere in his extensive correspondence.” [Dallas: Southern Methodist University Press, 1963, pp. 14-15]

  • Jeff

    I guess Samurai would have to “leave out” George Washington from his Faque Patriot Lunch Table in his Heavenly High School.

  • Bob666

    Yo Jeff,
    Sammybabble sees his “facts” as he wants to see them with bible colored glasses. I will admit that I never looked real hard at our founding fathers religious believes until I encountered the fake samurai.

    What I have found reinforces my believe that our founders were very wise and open minded men who wanted to protect religious freedom. At least he is including Jews in his little Patriot Lunch Table at Heavenly High School now, so this could be called progress?

  • Jeff

    So Martin Luther would have thought him a “leftist”? Probably would have had him put to death for his “radicalism.”

  • Jeff

    I love it when the Repugs “speak freely.” They reveal so much when they use their own natural language rather than the manufactured speech taught them by Frank Luntz. Like Don Young talking about the “wetbacks” at the very time the Repugs are trying to convince Hispanics they really aren’t as bad as they appear to be.

  • Peter 10-nov-1775

    America is not at war, America is at the mall. Most Americans have not sacrificed. They would rather watch American Idol than inform themselves as to what is happening in their own country. They are ‘purposely ignorant’!

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