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Grading On A Curve

April 14, 2011 by  

Grading On A Curve

Teacher [tee-cher]—noun: one who teaches or instructs, especially as a profession; NOT “supporter of those who murder police officers in cold blood.”

The recent annual convention of the California Federation of Teachers—a cell of the American Federation of Teachers—passed a resolution at their annual convention extolling the virtues of the cop-killer, Mumia Abu-Jamal. Jamal murdered Philadelphia police officer Danny Faulkner back in 1981 and has since become a hero to Democrat Party travelers from George “Owner” Soros to the second grade art teacher at Santa Monica Elementary. (Or whomever.)

One might presume the CFT would spend their time at their latest junket constructing a plan to ensure that their young charges would receive the best academic instruction possible. At the very least, it would be reasonable to think that they’d at least resolve to ensure the kiddies learn that “2+2″ does not = “Senators Boxer and Feinstein.” (Especially considering that Boxer + Feinstein = 0; not 4.)

If only reason played a part in their conduct. While some educational matters were discussed, including continued opposition to charter schools (damned local accountability!); the CFT also made a principled stand on one of the most important issues confronting educators in the Golden State: Cop killers.

Most of Resolution 19, which passed at the 2011 convention, is the usual empty rhetoric and defamatory innuendo the Democrat Party normally substitutes for REASON. Resolution 19 ultimately calls for the release of the “journalist” Abu-Jamal, whom they rather predictably claim is a victim of police coercion and judicial and prosecutorial malfeasance. It even elevates the REPROBATE murderer to the level of political prisoner.

“Whereas, the continued unjust incarceration of Mumia Abu-Jamal represents a threat to the civil rights of all people…”

Although I feel fairly certain that the continued incarceration doesn’t represent a threat to MY civil rights—mostly because I have yet to murder a police officer; I suppose I’m glad to see the CFT is on the case for civil rights; although they must have run out of ink before they expressed any support for the victims of communist oppression in places like Cuba—the CFT resolved at their 2010 conference to support five of Castro’s spies who were caught in Miami.

Oddly, not one word about the ChiComs’ unrelenting harassment of dissidents made it into this year’s CFT agenda. They didn’t make room for the victims of Iran’s violently repressive regime, nor any of the rest of the targets and victims of Islamofascism worldwide (a number which is substantially higher than the number of cop killers currently awaiting execution in Pennsylvania). And evidently, the good professors of California didn’t think it important to proclaim support for the widow and children of Abu-Jamal’s victim, Officer Danny Faulkner.

Frankly, I would expect the CFT to focus on… well… teaching. Californians now rank 49th out of the 50 States in adults who have at least achieved a high school diploma.

The CFT DID pass a resolution (No. 30) decrying “bullying.” However, they specifically noted that they were not talking about the nerdy kid who suffered an atomic wedgie on the way to social studies this morning. No, the CFT is concerned about:

“…aggressive communication, excessively harsh criticism… false accusations, public discrediting, defamation, insults, personal attacks, taunting, hostile glares, yelling, shouting, screaming, terrorizing, threatening behavior or acts… designed to drive the target out of a job;

Screw the brats. They don’t pay union dues. And no matter that the aforementioned language is a spot-on description of the union thug-led violence and hate speech — officially endorsed by the Democrat Party — currently on display in Wisconsin.

American students are falling further and further behind their peers in academic performance. Liberals breathlessly pin the blame on everyone but themselves. Meanwhile, a cell of the second largest “teachers’” union in the country made room in their recent convention for a man who shot a cop in the face at point blank range.

Here’s a suggestion for the CFT: Next time you want more money, consider whether your students can name the victim of Mumia Abu-Jamal’s crime. After all, who’s a better role model for the students in the Golden State — cops, or cop killers?

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • bsfurg

    anyone that kills a policeman should be put to death within 5 years or when ever they find him guilty .. instead they have made it so in most states that killers will just live there life away in jail. in stead.0 they are being waited on more or less. it should be a law in all 50 states

    • karolyn

      Loss of freedom is a worse fate than death. Death is actually a reward – setting the spirit free. Neither is the death penalty a deterrent.

      • Lastmanstanding

        Then reward us so that we don’t have to pay for them for the next 50 years…making room for a human who will be good to other humans.

        • Bear

          Lastmanstanding……….I’m with you, Pal. Two things that really get my goat is these criminals being released back into society to continue their attacks on all of us and the ones who get locked up for life where you and I have to foot the bill for everything they get from meals to medical. THAT’S what isn’t right! A good friend of mine who is on Medicare had to pay out of her own pocket for a medical procedure because Medicare denied the claim. If she had been incarcerated, she would have gotten the treatment without any question. Just tell me how that works and what is even remotely fair about it. My feelings run deep about this issue because I do keep up with what’s going on in this area of the news. Just this week, a woman was attacked and raped in the Denver airport while waiting for a flight. As she reported, she had missed her earlier flight and was waiting for another. It was past midnight and the terminal was virtually empty when the attack occurred. This sick-o who attacked her had passed through the usual TSA screening just like you and I do when we want to fly, yet the screening does nothing to detect a rapist. Now, he’ll probably get his day in court and if convicted, serve a few years and be released with little more than a slap on the wrist. That’s what is wrong. This wart on the nose of humanity should not be allowed to continue his life in this world. I personally feel like when someone makes a decision to violate another person in such a manner, that person gives up all rights to be treated as an equal. This goes especially for those who would harm a child.

          As for his spirit being released, if so, there are only two directions for that spirit to travel and if going to hell is not worse than being encarcerated for life, I’ve been misguided for many years. I say, give him his ticket and put him on the train.

          • Robin from Arcadia, IN

            Bear… Great post.

          • JC

            Bear, Like you, I’m royally angry about the same issues.
            The medical system needs to be completely flushed and a system of Justice combined with responsibilty and free enterprise is required.
            NO GOVERNMENT RUN HEALTHCARE.

            The Prison Industrial Complex combined with the “LAW” System we have is also designed to enrich the owners of the prisons and create a higher level of enforcement on, and control of Americans.

            Meanwhile they want to disarm us to keep us safe.

            Toss in a bunch of Unionized morons that are supposed to pass for the Teaching Faculties….and we have finally reached a state of complete insanity.

            Thing is, it isn’t really insanity. It’s an agenda and we better recognize it quick because our nation is circling the bowl as we speak.

          • Lastmanstanding

            Same goes for pedophiles, perverts, etc. My wife fought off an attacker when she was nearly 9 months preg with our son…the attacker beat the s–t out of her…and walked. Our son is a PILLAR! on Gods green earth. He was a medic with one of the finest military units ever created and they served in iraq…he now works in a hospital treating our troops that come home from b and o’s wars that are burned to a crisp. I’ll leave it at that.

            My wife treats women who have been molested, raped, etc. and have been hiding it shamefully for years, some as many as 30+ years. She says it is not about the horific act, it is about power…control over another person.

            It’s not much different than the way we are treated by our politicians and govt.

            God willing, a day is coming and justice will be swiftly served.

          • Troy

            Amen!

        • Bear

          Lastmanstanding,
          Tell your son I said “Thanks for serving.” Sounds like you and your family have run the gauntlet and have not lost sight of your convictions. That’s powerful! We need people like you in our ranks. Thanks too for your input.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        karolyn… I do agree with you that loss of freedom is worse than death, and the route the United States is heading it will soon be apparent to not only those who are jailed, but all of us! But, there are some people that are just plain evil, and nothing but a waste of skin.

        • Bruce D.

          Some people fight for leniency to live out their life in jail. I would not.

          • Bear

            Hey Bruce D.,
            You got me to thinking. I don’t believe anyone has done a documentary about what goes on within the penal system in regards to “continuing education.” We would have to be a bit naieve to think that a criminal goes to jail and just sits in a cell moaning and weeping over what he or she has done and repenting. Do we actually believe that they are filled with remorse and are thinking about how to make ammends or pay back what they have done? I don’t think so. I believe “continuing education” is the operative word here and that’s exactly what goes on. These criminals actually become educators. They share their experiences and learn from one another. If we did the smart thing, we would impose the death penalty and thus deprive the rest of the inmates of their teachers.

          • Jana

            I have heard a lot about what they do when they go to prison. The relatively smart ones study law. This enables them to draw up legal papers and sue for a myriad amount of useless law suits that do nothing but cost the taxpayers and tie up the courts.
            I am sure there are others who do go on to get their high school and even college credits and use them for good, but I have a feeling that they are truly few and far between. They just learn how to be better cons and manipulators.

        • sylviam

          You may be right in you opinion, but I too am for the DEATH penalty, I believe, and even THE BIBLE says so, THAT if A MAN TAKE A WOMAN BY RAPING HER, HE SHALL BE PUT TO DEATH, the TEN COMMANDMENTS is a great thing to live by.
          The one commandment that says” THOU SHALT NOT MURDER, not KILL,”that word was mis-understood or mis-inturpted at the time, I shouuld say, because it was written in HEBREW ancient hebrew at that. This was explained by one of my Jewish friends.
          But at the cost of keeping them up I say NO WAY. THERE ARE TOO MANY PRISONS now and building more every year. WE have -2- in the area I live now “SUPER MAX” at that now when we get to that extreme re-instate the DEATH PENALTY before we have to use a state for a prison, because its getting that bad. The cost is just too enormous and rediuless. But some use the BIBLE for they’re arguement, well then do but varify the meanings before they quote.
          By the way its neither a DEM NOR REPUB problem it is a people problem.
          GOD BLESS AMERICA

          • Jana

            sylviam,
            there is a difference between murder and killing. Murder as to lie in wait which is premeditated is the punishable by death. there are other types of killing. One may be in defense of your life or a loved ones life. Another would be as a soldier in defense of our country. These types of “killings” are not considered murder.

          • Jana

            sylviam,
            I ment they are not considered murder by Biblical standards. However as always, God is our ultimate judge.

      • Patty

        The carrying out of the death penalty guarantees 1 thing. They will never be able to take the life or victimize another. And that sounds good enough to me.

        • Mick

          You got it Patty, and let’s get rid of most of those appeals dragging the process for years only benefiting the lawyers and putting the screws to the tax payers,and while we’re at it why not put the beasts to death using a regular bullet ( not a silver one ) or a rope instead of paying millions to put them in the hole anyway………

        • 45caliber

          Patty:

          I agree. I’ve heard many people insist that “if we lock them up for life, they can’t hurt anyone.”

          That isn’t true. They are still around both other prisoners and guards. And several a year get killed by other inmates.

          • Bob

            Quite true and, by the way, you misunderstood my post the other day – when I was speaking of America allowing the murders of tens of millions of people, I was speaking of abortion – babies in the womb are people to me. I believe that the execution of prisoners guilty of heinous crimes is not murder, but justice.

          • 45caliber

            Okay, I did misunderstand. Sorry.

        • Larry

          I’m just waiting for the Demorats/progressives to start demanding that anyone who kills someone in self defense is imprisoned for life without possibility of parole because it’s just not right to take the life of another. No matter that given the chance the deceased would have killed or maimed the individual who defended themselves.

          The UN and their gun control fanatics are already referring to self defense as murder that’s allowed to be a legal defense, and they generally issue the marching orders to the left here.

          How a murderer who kills someone in cold blood can be defended by the left while those who would defend themselves are called murderers escapes me somehow. Obviously not as bright as the leftist morons.

          • Bear

            Larry, Let me help you with this one. The Left’s agenda is to “rule by fear.” By making you afraid to defend your life, they essentially turn you into a coward. The criminal element will take advantage of this factor just like they do with “gun free” zones. Them knowing that you will no harm them, for fear of being imprisoned yourself, gives them power over you to do as they please and thus you are ruled by your own fear which the Government so cenveniently created. By the way, this exists today in the U.K.. Defending one’s own life is not a defence for killing an assailant and that is total B.S.. “My right to defend my life and that of my family comes from God, not from some politician.” Ted Nugent

          • Patty

            Bear-Love Ted N. http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/80665828/
            All of you liberals out there should watch this. Cuts through most of you mamsy pamsy BS

        • Matt Newell

          Actually there is another thing to worry about — what will happen when a Liberal Governor pardons someone who is in prison for life without possibility of parole? It WILL happen some time, you can bet on it.

        • Patty

          The only good criminal is a DEAD criminal, and if they show up on my doorstep, that is exactly what they will be. I lived with a cop way to long to not understand that if they make it into a court room at all anymore, they are guilty (in MN). The fact that we can’t eliminate them from our society in self-denfense for defending ourselves is proof enough to me. Someone once asked me, so if someone breaks into your house, their life is worth a (pick an object:TV) my reply to them is:They thought it was. I am not going to wait and see what their intention is for bodily harm to me. If they cross my threshhold, they mean me bodily harm. Period. And if you think that is radical, give me your address, I will pass it on to them. Or, in other words, let me defend myself so you won’t have to.

          • Jana

            Patty,
            I would be proud to have you as a neighbor. I feel the same way.

      • http://n.cates@cox.net Norman F.

        Karolyn how do you know that death “sets the spirit free”? Have you ever been dead?

        • JC

          Unfortunately Karolyn falls into the category of “liberal” most days.
          So, dead from the neck up might be the case.
          Some days though….she seems to understand things as they really are…

          • 45caliber

            Probably due to her meds …

          • Jana

            Actually, setting the spirit free is a laugh. When we execute the perverts as the Bible tells us to do, then we are sending that soul to our Heavenly Father who is the perfect judge. He knows if there is a mental defect, or if this soul is just plain mean. God is always fair.
            Send that soul to our Father God, before he/she has a chance to commit more horrendous crimes and have to answer for those too.

          • Patty

            Jana – Thank you. Sounds great to me.

      • Commonsense

        Karolyn, “Neither is the death penalty a deterrent”. This comment is so loaded! Do you want to know why the death penalty isn’t a deterrent, Karolyn? Because in this country, the average death row inmate is more likely to die from a lightning strike than execution. In other words, it isn’t used enough. If you want to see the death penalty work enforce it. You get three appeals within one year. If your still guilty-ZAP! If there are credible witnesses that saw you do the bad thing, 24 hours-Zap! Public canings for theft and other non-felonious acts also good. Cut fingers and hands off for theft, rape, casteration is a good deterrent. Eye for an Eye, it’s still the best system there is.

        • Bear

          Commonsense,
          What you say about an eye for an eye is more than just biblical. It is fair! But, we live in a civilized society which means that we tollerate and accept this kind of behavior and actually reward it by providing the criminal with housing, clothing, free meals, exercise programs, libraries, television, free medical and access to other criminals so they can help them finer tune their skills for when they get out. We look upon canings, stonings, the severanc of digits and limbs as barbaric, yet we accept the violation of children, innocent women, the murder of whole families and innocent bystanders as in Arizona and then reward the perpetrators. Which is really barbaric?

          • Mick

            Bear

            I can’t even begin tell you how much I agree with you, I have been trying to explain that to many only to be called a barbarian for thinking the way I do,,,Our society’s common sense has been hijacked by the degenerate mentality of the left, they can’t even determine what’s right and what’s wrong anymore…..

          • 45caliber

            Mick:

            I agree with you. I’ve talked to some college kids who insist there is not such things as right and wrong, good and evil. There are only shades of gray. Hitler probably had a good reason to kill people as he did. Etc. They are taught that in college. They take someone line Loughner in AZ and insist that he was failed by society or that he was mentally ill because … And none will actually come out and say that he was wrong and did evil there.

          • Bear

            45Caliber,
            I’ve heard kids say the same thing about shades of gray. This is part of some school system’s indoctrination into a type of thinking that goes against everything we were ever taught about right and wrong. The dialogue in the classroom introduces a new perspective based upon degrees of right and wrong such as, is killing someone more wrong than stealing a candy bar at the grocery store? The student feels like murder is worse than stealing and the teacher says that both are wrong but one is a bit more gray than the other. Thus the shades and eventually they are taught that all of the shades overlap and that what I perceive as wrong may be perceived as right to someone else. Thus, there is not right or wrong. For instance, in my mind, a person does not have the right to break into my home and rob me. In the assailant’s mind, he needs money for his lifestyle and thus in his mind, he is doing what is right. This kind of indoctrination, to me, opens the door for the worst kind of thinking and total confusion. If our kids start thinking this way, and believing this crap, they will grow up not having any respect for themselves or anyone else or their property. This “new” thinking is part of the progressive’s plan for destruction of America by reducing moral values and the understanding of right and wrong.

        • DaveH

          To the contrary. The death penalty is a very good deterrent. That person will never kill again.

          • s c

            That’s the whole point, DaveH. In a death penalty case, a single individual bears the full weight of the law(s). He or she will never commit another crime. The idea that the death penalty is supposedly a functional deterrent works only if people are interested in law and order.
            In the matter of grading on a curve, only losers and in-house vermin are interested protecting a system where education is just a word. Our schools have FAILED. Teachere unions are organized mobs of criminals. Students who want a good education are obligated to get it on their own. As for Washington, line ‘em up and thrown the SOBs behind bars. When it’s broke, FIX the damned thing. Period!

      • 45caliber

        karolyn:

        You are wrong although I know why you would say it. It would be a fate worse than death for many people to be locked away.

        But the death penalty does work. A friend of mine (a cop in Little Rock) was telling me that they have a chart on the wall of their day room that shows the number of crimes every day. It starts low (never goes to zero) but rises faster and faster – until some criminal is killed. That can be by being shot by a victim, shot by a police officer as they resist arrest – or by the death penalty.

        The moment it happens, the number of crimes drop again almost to zero.

        Further, the death penalty is the ONLY way society has to insure that murderers don’t get out to do it again. Despite “Lock them up for life”. A good example is due to Ann Richards – a past governor of Texas. She didn’t like the death penalty either and remitted the sentences of all on death row. One of the men was there for the rape and torture/murder of several women. He was out of jail in less than a year for “good behavior”. During the next nine months, before they caught him again, he is known to have raped, tortured, and murdered over 50 more women. He was put back on death row and bragged that he wasn’t worried. They would release him again. Luckily he was wrong – that time.

        • Bruce D.

          Anyone who releases someone like that is a sicko themselves.

        • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

          er:

          Wouldn’t that make Ma Richards a co-conspirator to those 50 murders? As shuch shouldn’t she be executed as well?

          If I had been one of the victims family she would have been….

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            That should have been 45, not er. This blasted keyboard!

          • 45caliber

            I agree. In fact, I believe that the parole board should be sued at least every time they release someone and then a crime is committed by that person. They would be a lot more careful about whom they released. Many times I’m convinced it is simply to free up another bed in prison or to make some family member happy. In fact, I’d like to make it a requirement that every time they released someone, that person had to live with one of them for six months first.

            Incidentally, Ann Richards was the Dem pick to run as Clinton’s Vice President. They chose Gore instead the first time because they didn’t believe Clinton would win. They wanted him to pick up Gore’s Green color. Clinton wouldn’t have won either if the GOP vote hadn’t gotten split between Bush and Parroe. When CLinton ran for reelection, if you remember, there was some doubt at first that Gore would still be his running mate. They wanted Richards in. But they finally went with Gore because they were afraid if they did replace him, the Greens would vote the other way. However she died of cancer not long after that.

        • Patty

          45 cal – That can be by being shot by a victim, shot by a police officer as they resist arrest , my only point to this would be if they shot then perp, they are not a victim. They are a hero.

          • Patty

            THAT made absolutley no sense.

        • Bear

          45caliber,
          That was a good post. My father use to say, “we didn’t have too many horse theives back in the days when we use to hang them.” Anyone who says that the death penalty is not a deterent must be an individual who gets squeamish at the sight of blood. That’s OK too. Some folks just don’t like the idea of killing someone even if it is too save their own life. I can accept their case knowing that when they meet their attacker, they will most likely make a different choice. LOL As for the death penalty, dealing with murderers, child molesters and rapists in this manner definitely appeals to me if for no other reason than it reduces the opportunity for their ever getting released back into society. What the heck is this stupid program where a released sex offender has to tell everyone on their block that they are a sex offender? What does it actually accomplish? I’ll tell you what it accomplishes. It makes every woman and mother on that block live in fear from that point on. They are afraid to let their children out of the house and it makes them afraid to walk over to their friend’s house for fear that the sex offender will attack them. Once again, the Leftist’s agenda is accomplished. They have got us being ruled by our own fears which they have conveniently created for us. I personally feel like the death penalty is much more than a punishment for a criminal. It is peace of mind for society as a whole.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Yeah..but back then they took them right out from the court and hanged them the next day,if they got their day in court.Today a convict can wait out the legislators and do life without.The system is a travesty of stretching litigation to the limit.Does it change whether folks believe right or wrong has been done to the convict?No. But most of the time the argument forgets the victim.You never hear much about what they have been or are going through.

      • Bob

        The spirit of an unrepentant murderer is not set free by death; it enters eternal slavery and torment. Your new age beliefs are the worst kind of violence because they mislead others to believe the lie that there are no consequences for sin, leading them to eternal suffering. You are worse than any murderer on death row.

        • Jana

          Bob,
          The unrepentant soul is sent to our Father in Heaven for judgement. He is the one who knows why this person is like he or she is, and God is a fair judge. God knows all of the circumstances.

          • Patty

            So, let’s send a lot more of them there. Let Him decide.

          • Jana

            Patty,
            AMEN!

      • DaveH

        A worse fate than death for the poor taxpayers who have to foot the bill.

      • independant thinker

        Karolyn can volunteer to pay for all those whose sentance was life without parol instead of death.

      • Carol

        And that’s why I, who used to be upper middle class am now below the poverty line. Taxes, more taxes and even more taxes to let cop killers live in luxury in prison. I know what I’m talking about. I have visited prisons and seen how they are pampered. They aren’t being punished, we are.

      • JIBBS

        WAKE UP!!!, the loss of their freedom, costs us a lot of money, and the death penalty would be useful, if they used it all the time.

      • independant thinker

        ” Neither is the death penalty a deterrent.”

        even if that is totaly true with no exceptions if you exacute the SOB there is no chance he will ever be released to kill again.

      • Rocky J Squirrel.

        As far as being a deterrent, the death penalty is the only penalty that ensures a murderer Never Murders Again. These morons murder the weak in prison. Death solves that problem permanently. “If you come to TEXAS and kill someone we will kill you back”.
        As far as cops go, a badge is not a license to kill, every case must be looked at on its merits, the case with the boy in the closet above does not meet the standards of murder. Abu-Jamal however was tried and convicted “enter the sandman”.

        • Patty

          I love the quip about TX putting the death penalty in the “fast lane”, wish others would follow. In the animal kingdon (which I know the tree huggers understand) that when a dysfunctional is born or shows signs of “wierd” they are 86th out of the tribe or herd to make it on their own which they seldom do. Nature is the path to follow.

      • freeman101

        “the death penalty a deterrent.”

        IT’S NOT ??????????????????????????????????????

        DEAD PEOPLE DON’T HURT ANYONE, THEY JUST TAKE UP SPACE TO COMPOST

    • barbm

      we don’t always do it as quickly as you’d like, but texas ALWAYS puts cop killers in the ground. and we don’t care who protests. perhaps that’s why texas is getting so many folks from california moving here.

      • 45caliber

        I’d like to see a few more go too. I’ve had mild celebrations over some we’ve gotten rid of.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        Take all the rope in Texas find a tall Oak tree…
        Hang all of them bad boys for the world to see…
        Wiskey for my men! Beer for my horses!
        I LOVE that song!

    • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

      Expand the death penalty, and expedite it.
      You are convicted of:
      Rape – You are sent to the gallows
      Child molestation – you are sent to the gallows
      Drug dealing – you are sent to the gallows
      Cop killing – you are sent to the gallows
      Three time looser – you are sent to the gallows
      Convicted gang-banger – you are sent to the gallows
      Murder anyone – you are sent to the gallows
      Convicted producer / user of child pornagraphy – you are sent to the gallows
      Murder someone driving DWI – you are sent to the gallows

      The sentence would be carried out quickly. i.e.: convicted Monday afternoon and hung on Tuesday morning on the courthouse lawn as a public event.

      This would greatly reduce the load on honest hard working tax payers as we would cut prison expenses tremendously. An added benefit would be to help clean up society and the gene pool.

      The Israelites did not have prisons.

      • sylviam

        I will supply the ROPE gladly.
        One that is GUARENTEED not to BREAK, GIT ER DONE

      • 45caliber

        The problem I have is the government diffinition of many of those crimes. For instance, there is a set of twins in Houston that the government is filing murder charges against for murdering their 70+ year old mother.

        What happened according to the paper and authorities is that she fell over in her living room. The government is trying to say she lay there a couple of days before she died without any help from them – hence the murder charge. However, it is just as likely (more so) that she was dead when they found her.

        Instead of murder, they should be tried for fraud since they chose to not report her death and continue to draw her retirement check. The government can’t really tell because they left Mom laying in the middle of the living room for about 9-10 months before anyone discovered what happened.

        • Patty

          Sorry, that is sick. Another problem with the “entitlement” society. They were probaly taking her gov’t. check and she was living on dog food. Sick people out there. Murder would be a good call if they were executed.

      • Cranky

        Henry I’m with 100% It should be up the jury to convict and then the judge should have a list of crimes and punishments. So that no matter color, rich or poor, whatever everyone gets the same punishment. The only problem in Texas is the juries that hand down the sentences, the death penalty is used more here than anywhere else but it is still not used enough. As far as criminals in these type of crimes go Killem all and let GOD sort them out.

    • Dee

      You got that right. What are the damn teachers in California teaching our children and it is okay to kill a policeman?
      I wouldn’t live in California if they gave me the who damn state.

      • Patty

        You would inherit a lot of liabilities that you could not pay.

    • patrick H.T. paine

      ” To conquer, first divide! ”

      Any police officer who kills a citizen should be put to death within
      two and a half years! Ain’t gonna happen in either case. But the possibility of any sort of “justice” in the JUSTICE SYSTEM…..is
      diametrically opposed for each “defendant”.

      For the “civilian”, for any crime, the odds are stacked against them,
      and “injustice” is the more probable outcome. The chances of a cop
      being prosecuted for anything is “low” and the odds of conviction
      even lower.

      The REALITY of “protect and serve” is, they are not required to protect and since they very rarely are “available” when needed, they
      don’t……as far as “serve” goes…..forget that, no public servant
      understands THE CONCEPT OF SERVICE……or that YOU outrank THEM.

      Meanwhile YOU, as a citizen….are prevented from protecting yourself,
      and good luck to you if you are “involved” in anything “unfortunate”,
      and are without suffcient connections or means to afford a competant
      attorney. ( member of the bar )

      Are there good cops? Possibly, but in the majority, these people
      are the former bullies you had to deal with growing up, and even those
      who have “other” motivations, once “in” become an “isolated and neurotic” class….who are “paranoid, persecuted and priviledged”,
      and this becomes self re-enforcing over time, while the major cause
      of death is “suicide”……

      BTW, these servants of the public’s main function, revenue raising, violates their “oath” to the constitution every day, just like every other “public servant”, so you can’t have it both ways. ( and the
      condition of paranoid, priviledged, persecution as well as the
      “risk” which becomes exaggerated over time due to isolation becomes
      a justification for the “corruption” which epidemic in every level
      of government.)

      As Reagan noted: “Government IS the PROBLEM.” and he was “part of the problem.” So my solution, Mr. Crystal is this, when any public servant
      at any level of government is “convicted” of any crime, the sentence
      should be 3 to 5 times, what it would be for any ordinary citizen,
      unless that citizen was acting in concert with a “public SERVANT.”

      BTW I am not familiar with the facts of this CASE, and it is not relevant, except in a general sense where applicable. In the end,
      justice relies on the principle of a “juries” right and responsibility, to judge both FACT and LAW…..( but this too has
      been removed…… )

      “Do not ask for whom the bell tolls……….”

      • Patty

        Patrick-some of what you post is true, but this paragraph is total BS. “Are there good cops? Possibly, but in the majority, these people
        are the former bullies you had to deal with growing up, and even those
        who have “other” motivations, once “in” become an “isolated and neurotic” class….who are “paranoid, persecuted and priviledged”,
        and this becomes self re-enforcing over time, while the major cause
        of death is “suicide”…… Iwas married to a cop for over 20 years. You could not be more wrong. Like any industry, there are good people and bad people but overall, the majority are good in this industry.

        • patrick H.T. paine

          Dear Patty,

          There are a lot of circumstantial conditions which apply and a lot of
          this is dependant on “population density”, so the more urban areas
          tend to produce more over reaction, than a more rural setting. I also
          am no stranger to having “cops” in the family…….but the general
          truth remains…….they tend to hang with their own…..have their
          own bars, and tend to congregate amongst themselves. Over time, and
          dependant on the level of stress involved, this isolation does produce
          attitudes and behavior which has obvious negative effects over time.

          It is no different, than what can be expected from soldiers who
          have actually experienced combat……..because despite what the
          general public may believe, and our government tends to ignore or
          dismiss, you do not go through these types of experiences, with out being profoundly changed by them……..sometimes in extremely
          negative ways. Granted, the situational conditions, of sustained
          combat are far greater than those of a police officer……but, even
          proximity is enough to trigger the behavior to which I refer……
          and I have seen and experienced enough of this, to know that it
          takes little if anything to trigger this response.

          I am not insensitive to the stresses here, but my point is directed
          at the general attitude and conditions of “government in general” and
          our’s specifically as a “servant of the people”. Our history has demonstrated that this has never been true, despite the lofty rhetoric, and it has been deteriorating from day one.

          We have the best government money can buy. Unfortunately, it has been bought and paid for in advance, and not by the people. The people are
          offered the illusion of “choice” by being allowed to vote, but only
          for those who have been properly vetted before hand.

          This task has been made easier, by the “centralization” of power,
          at the national level, which those who designed this structure,
          were aware of and sought to avoid, in their first attempt under
          the Articles of Confederation……..The Constitution, which also
          attempted to address this, by any number of checks, which took
          greater effort to circumvent…..still failed…..and rather quickly,
          and of course these actions were “necessary” to “preserve the union.”

          Once this principle was in place, the rest was simple…..and here we
          are.

          I generally begin my posts with: “To conquer, first divide!” and as
          you can see, it doesn’t take much to generate “division”……the
          end result of this circumstance was also predicted early on: “We are being hung seperately.”

      • Jana

        Patrick,
        You sound a little– no a lot paranoid. Any cop that kills a civilian should be put to death? Even if that “cop” is shooting in self defense? Even if that “cop” is protecting someone else?
        Wow, me thinks you are a little off.

        • patrick H.T. paine

          Actually, that is simply a reversal of the statement made in the opening post of this thread…….which stated that: “Any one who
          kills a cop should be put to death within five years.” To continue
          your line of logic, the logical question would be: “Even if that person was defending himself or someone else from an illegal police
          action?” Of course, I may be mistaken, but I didn’t notice you asking
          THAT question, in response to THAT statement?

          The unpleasant fact here is that “cops” tend to overreact to any
          challenge to their authority, which is diametrically opposed to the
          “idea” that “government” is the “servant” of “we the people.” In
          essence, that is the point of my post which relies on two concepts
          which you may be familiar, that “Government is FORCE…..” G. Washington and “Power corrupts.” Lord Acton.

          If you doubt this is a “prevalent attitude or stance” by the police,
          you need simply watch a few episodes of the rather foolish reality show “Cops”. Even knowing that they are being filmed, they can not
          hide this “over reactive response”, regardless of circumstance….
          you can hear it in their voices……provided you allow yourself to.

          • Jana

            patrick,
            Actually I do see what you are saying. I had a girl friend who was a police officer as was her husband. He dealt with husbands who battered their wives. After working in this capacity for 3 years he was asked the percentage of men who batter their wives. He claimes it was 95%. Of course that is not correct, but he had to be taken out of that unit and go in for psych evals and was transferred to a different unit to get a better perspective.
            Another point is when someone tries to help the police they are often chided or cited for doing so. They are called a vigilante. A person using self defense who kills an intruder is treated like a criminal themselves in many instances. This does not bring harmony between the public and the police.
            However, there are good men and women on the police force. Unfortunately when they deal with the criminal elements of our society they become suspicious of us all. Ergo, the solution may be to rotate them more often. The downside of that is, just when they get good at doing thier job, they will be rotated.

    • Cawmun Cents

      Anyone who kills anyone and is convicted should be put to death within 5 years.

  • Dawn Marie

    liberals,demoncrats…..teacher unions—-CRIMINALS should all huddle around these people since they are so supportive of them, they should become part of thier group, they are all the same!

  • Warrior

    If anyone had the chance yesterday to catch the House 2012 Budget subcommitte meeting, on C-span, it was well worth the time. Rep Ryan was explaining his budget plan and the knuckleheads tried to pooh pooh and demagogue him at every turn. Ryan absolutely ate the dimowhits up.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Why would this resolution even be a part of their convention? This killer is in Pennsylvania. Why do California teachers find a need to ‘rescue’ this brutal attacker? Is he even a citizen of the United States? Is common sense, values, and standards a thing of the past? Come on people! Your politically correct crap is ludicrous! If you are going to defend a cause, for God’s sake make it a worthy one!

    • 45caliber

      Yes, he is American. See my notes below on what he did.

    • DaveH

      Welcome to the upside-down world of Liberal thinking.

    • Bruce D.

      It is crazy Robin. I thought maybe there would be common ground with liberals on Libya who hated GB for going into Iraq. Instead they are embracing the war in Libya. I just think we do not have the money anymore to destroy and then turn around and nation build. On BBC today I was surprised to hear France and England were not getting much support from the rest of the world for air attacks over Libya and want the U.S. to get more involved. Where is all that world support the liberals are claiming for this war.

      • Patty

        We should bring ALL of our kids home. We will need them to fight our own gov’t. Don’t you think that is part of the plan. Spread them thin elsewhere?

      • Patty

        It all has to do with the MSM spin machine.

  • Kevin Beck

    Mumia Abu-Jimal should be dead and buried. Why we have a teacher’s union from the other side of the country praising that piece of trash is beyond me. I can’t think of any positive attribute for the students that was the result of the existence of a teacher’s union; probably because no such result has occurred yet. Such extortion rackets should be exposed at every opportunity, and immediately defunded, so they can no longer create havoc for a civil society.

  • DANNY

    California is a cesspool.

    • JeffH

      DANNY, for the most part you are right. The most resource loaded and beautifull state in the union with the best weather has become a cesspool of illegal immigrants and a utopia for liberals. This one comment, “Californians now rank 49th out of the 50 States in adults who have at least achieved a high school diploma.” explains it all.
      The people of state, that is nearly bankrupt, elect Jerry Brown to govern for a third time and continues re-electing the likes of Boxer and Feinstein, all of whom support the sancuary cities of SF and LA.

      If you understand the Liberal Progressives Agendas, then you’ll understand the parity between Obama and California’s illegal immigrants “Everything’s for Free Mentalities,” Don’t Contribute Much in Taxes, are Straining State’s Welfares Systems & U.C. Colleges.

      I’m sick of it all and don’t have a lot of patience for the stupidity that abounds within California’s borders and especially in Sacramento.

      • 45caliber

        One of the reasons is that the taxes got so high trying to buy votes from the welfare and illegals that the educated citizens moved to another state.

      • Cawmun Cents

        Progressives own that town….they have completely destroyed California.What a sham and a shame.But the voters love them.Just goes to show you that if you give a liberal enough rope,he will hang everyone he can with it.

        • Jana

          Cawmun Cents,
          They have a mentality that says I can’t take care of myself, Gov’t. has to do it. California is a pock mark on our country.

          • Cawmun Cents

            The Crown Jewel,has become the Brown Duel.The Golden state has become the Mould in Hate.The Left Coast has become a bereft host.Welcome to BAHA,HA,HA,HA Mexifornia,but dont say we didnt warn ya!Bad poetry aside,I wish these things werent true but oh well,I guess it should be Hollywood that heads for hell first.They’ve been headed there ever since I can remember…..

  • Julie

    Did you actually say in this article “Or WHOMEVER”? Whomever??? Is this your idea of crack journalist reporting? WHOMEVER? Journalism 101, son. W,W,W,W,H….the first W is “Who.” Kinda important for the sake of the story, wouldn’t you think? Well, apparently not, b/c you left it out. Sure, it’s trivial 411 at this point, but leaving it out is inconsiderate to your readers. It negates the seriousness of the entire article. This one word renders your story useless.
    Also, the statement “usual empty rhetoric and defamatory innuendo” in and of itself, is the very definition of the phrase. That comment alone is EMPTY, RHETORICAL, and DEFAMATORY. Except it’s not INNUENDO because you come right out and directly accuse…with nothing to back it up.
    “American students are falling further and further behind their peers in academic performance.” (THIS IS A LIE! While our students may not be breaking any records in beating Japan at testing, they are NOT falling farther behind. We have stats and documented evidence to prove this…and you obviously do NOT have facts and stats, ergo you use statements like “or whomever.”)
    And to those who will read this and crucify me for daring to say it like it is, go right ahead. I won’t see it or read it, so you’d be wasting your time and energy. Peace.

    • Mick

      Julie..

      Oh really…..Have you ever bought an item at a store or bought a burger where a lot of those student work and gave them the change to round up the sum to get mostly bills back and all they have to do is enter the amount given and give you back the change indicated on the register,,,,,many can’t even do that correctly………

      • JeffH

        Mick, BINGO! Total confusion. I do it all the time and it is the youngest employees that get totally confused. I have to tell them to enter the amount given to them and wait for the register to tell them what the change is…it ain’t rocket science, just basic addition and subtraction.

    • 45caliber

      Julie:

      Just in the last few days I’ve heard of several examples that refute what you are saying.

      A couple of American kids were put in a Spanish only class in LA since the number of Mexican kids outnumber the Americans there. THe teacher gives them puzzles to work while the Spanish kids are taught …

      A teacher locally who spent about two hours a day when teaching first grade trying to get the kids to object to their parents working in a chemical plant since “chemicals pollute and kill everybody”. Two hours away from the established curriculum …

      Teachers at a school south of here who play marbles and cars with the kids during class because “they are slow learners and therefore only expected to cover ONE CHAPTER a school year from their school books” …

      Several schools that consistantly graduate kids with a second and third grade education.

      And you insist that the kids get a good education?

    • DaveH

      What an ignoramus. Julie, if you’re going to launch a personal grammar attack against somebody, I would suggest you learn some Grammar.
      Ben said “[Jamal] has since become a hero to Democrat Party travelers from George “Owner” Soros to the second grade art teacher at Santa Monica Elementary. (Or whomever.)”
      To George ….
      To the second grade art teacher ….
      Get it, ignoramus? He is referring to the objects of the sentence “[Jamal] has since become a hero to ….”, not the subject Jamal.

      Julie is really hitting the bottom of the barrel when she must launch an obscure grammar attack on a person, and she isn’t even correct.

    • DaveH

      The Liberal Julie may be right about the students not falling further behind, if one could call ‘still lousy’ a good thing:
      http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2010-12-07-us-students-international-ranking_N.htm

    • Jennifer

      Julie gets it right here. If you killers would recognize a little wisdom when its presented, you may have a better selection for your eternity later. You have pitted Gods laws against your own and talk trash as if that gives you authority to do so. Friends don’t let Friends drive drunk. Am I your Friend?

      Insurance and Unions are such a good idea – eventually only Government can implement them correctly – Get rid of both !

      • libertytrain

        While I may not be the brightest candle in Church, I have no idea what you were attempting to say.

        • libertytrain

          Perhaps if I read it a dozen or more times…..

          • JeffH

            ????????DITTO???????????

          • Jana

            And, who is she referring to as “You killers”?
            You are right, this is one mixed up person who cannot write.

        • Vigilant

          Liberty and Jeff, it’s crystal clear to me that Julie and Jennifer are teachers. From WHOM ELSE would one expect such drivel?

        • Patty

          Vig-I think you hit that one on the head. Did you notice that she also labeled us all killers. I have never had to kill anyone, yet.

      • JIBBS

        Who’s on first.

        • Vigilant

          Whomever…

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Jennifer, WTH???????

      • Patty

        Julie? Julie? Where are you?

    • Carol

      SAY WHAT??????

      • Carol

        This was supposed to be a reply to Julie. Don’t know what it’s doing down here.

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    the land of the insane voting for a cop killer.

  • iam

    The plan is that next year they will introduce a resolution to add “How to kill a cop” to the curriculum and make the class mandatory.

  • http://n/a john robison

    I am almost wordless, this has to be a bad dream, surely the teachers cannot be behind this man, I mean if he was a doubtful prisoner I could almost understand but this guy is guilty and admittedly so…why not choose a prisoner that DNA could prove to be innocent or a man driven crazy by some wrongful deed to his family or something besides just cold blooded shoot in the face killer…I guess I now understand why CA has the largest number of student dropouts in the Country..even children can see and understand this kind of ignorance….this is a perfect example of a union of school teachers, just look at thier values years away from what is good for the children….how sad..

    • 45caliber

      But he’s such a nice man! You can tell by hearing him talk …

    • Cawmun Cents

      Havent you got your first(latest)edition of Radical Teacher magazine yet?If you want a good laugh…look up Radical Teacher magazine in your search engines browser,it will enlighten you as to what is going on in Cali.Now we can learn Gay history in the classroom.From Sodom and Gommorah,all the way to bath houses in San Francisco.Yes folks…gay history.From the Greeks to the Freaks and every kind in between.Coming soon to a grade school near you.Thats right,History in living color describing every act your child needs to know about.And you thought that if you kept them from being legally married,they would be forced back into the shadows.Nope,they are now launching the next phase of the attack.Its not as if it is new…but to make it legit would be quite the coup,dont you think?Next the beast-lovers will ask to be married to their significant others.Then its Bestiality 101 for the pre-school children,Mom and Dad will necessarily have to suck it up and deal with it.

  • Kris

    Gee is there a teacher killer we can all get behind and show our sympathy to? Maybe it’s time to turn the tables. As a retired police officer, I am angry by these left wing loons who obviously think that it is fine to kill a “cop” and then sit around for 25 years after being given the death penalty, living off the taxpayer dime and not getting any punishment. The same goes for these hollywood loons who back this murdering scum! I was watching a movie last night called war in darfur. It showed the “peaceful” muslims killing and murdering black folks with all the abandon of a pig in a pen filled with garbage. Now these are the “peaceful” muslims like the one’s on 9/11 that Hussain loves so much, the same “peaceful” muslims that our soldiers die to protect. These are the same “peaceful” muslims who the hollywood elite and the politicians stand up for with our taxpayer money and our soldiers lives. So is it any wonder that this is happening here by the very same people who call Americans, “domestic terrorists”, yet call acts of terrorism, man made disasters?

    • Patty

      Back to the 60′s. War protests! Bring our kids home!!!

      • Patty

        We need to make these mid-east wars as unpopular as vietnam. Lets move!

  • 45caliber

    I first read about this character years ago. He has a good voice and worked as a DJ until he began taking drugs. He lost his job and became a taxi driver. He heard on his radio that a cop was arresting his brother for something, so he drove over and shot the cop directly in front of a dozen or more witnesses. The cop shot and wounded him so he was still there when the rest of the police showed up.

    They have his gun that matches the five bullets he put into the cop. They have the slug that came from the cop’s gun that was in him. They have the eye witness accounts of over a dozen witnesses, including his brother.

    It should be open and shut. But he has used the court system to keep from being executed for 30 years now. One of his “appeals” was that the Constitution stated he should have a speedy resolution to his case but it had dragged out so long that he needed to have the court system release him – while the reason it dragged out so long was all his appeals. He also has had a number of movie stars speak out in his behalf because “he has such a nice voice”. Now he has the California Teachers Association.

    I think we should execute him and get it over with.

    • Barbara

      There is also the news film aired at the time of his arrest in the ER. He boasted about what he had done and said he’d do it again. There is absolutely no doubt of his guilt. He should have been shot to death then. Justifiable shooting. He confessed publicly. Shouldn’t need a trial.

      • Patty

        Another Bill Ayers on the horizon.

    • DaveH

      Let’s hit those twisted teachers where it hurts — Voucher Systems.

      • Vigilant

        OMG! I think you’ve hit upon something Dave. Vouchers are worse than death, as far as they are concerned.

  • http://! Angel Wannabe

    Bottom up, Top down, inside out folks!_Murders are now regarded as heros. The confusion of the masses continue, within our schools and media, its up to us to tell the truth.

    The Lord said Eye for and Eye.

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      This is all being purposely done to cause up rise, I think its just another of the Democrats/Socialists tactics, to see how far they can push the envelope. When someone does snap, they’ll blame all the harsh retaliation rhetoric from the opposition. And these A_h-les are teaching kids. Every damn one of them ought be FIRED!!

    • 45caliber

      Angel:

      Mel Gibson started making movies like “Patriot” and “The Passion” because he said that he suddenly realized one day that none of the movies were presenting the youth with heroes they could mimic. Instead they were giving them anti-heroes – people who were assassins, thieves, murderers, etc. One reason I respect him despite his drinking problems.

      • Vigilant

        Must be ESP. I watched my copy of “The Patriot” again last night.

        It’s a damned good movie, and in watching it I have something happen to me that will never happen to these leftist America-haters: I get a lump in my throat at certain points when I see again the great sacrifices, patriotism and dedication to freedom that these men experienced to make us the greatest nation on earth.

        Call me a corny sentimentalist if you will, but I still feel those emotions when the flag goes by or “America the Beautiful” is played.

        • http://! Angel Wannabe

          Vigilant, me too, the Star Spangled Banner too. Real Patriots where they’re hearts on they’re sleeve.

          • http://! Angel Wannabe

            wrong word vigilant, I meant “Wear”_I taint thinkin tonight!

        • Patty

          I get those same feelings when I see vfet’s walking in a parade.

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        45, I tell ya what, I always said “God uses the imperfect, more than perfect individuals to get his point across.

  • http://com i41

    Another great exampole of f–king freaksand idoits in the dumbocrap party. In every group of people there always are some clownson the fringe odf society. But the dumbocraps have multi pinhead numskulls that are wayu past the fringe of reality. Their party’s money man Soros, and all of his distuctive 527′s, envior freaks, Nambla, ALF and other domestic terrorists, all union thugs and their terrorist illegal alien groups,the UN lap b–ches of all the dems idoits, murders and tax cheats that are and have always been in the party, that never got prosecuted, jailed or shot. with the dem party having over 75% of lovers of abhorant behavior, and think all crinimals can be rehabilitated and made into model citizens, is why we have over loaded prisions no matter how attrocious that offense. Give the freaks a trial and if convicted, carry out the sentence 5 hours later, so the hole can get dug to drop the carcuss in in. No repeat offenders and frees up jail space and saves billions. Now if Mumia al a fkhead was white he would be dead and breaking down in the ground. This is another worthless jungle bunny sand lizard along with his brother are worthless peices of crap, why ismore parents raising hell or letting ewvryone know what crap is being done in our schools by unions. It is the goal to be PCed and not call the facts as they realy are, Don’t like Trump for his past close ties to the dumboicrap party, but we need someone that isn’t afraid and pced to tell the dictators and feel good freaks to shut up and pick up the ab for protecting their muslim goat abusing pervert necks. Now is the dumbocrap posters can tell all of us why they are such dung beetles in supporting the party.

  • Bob

    This incident points to the fact that the teacher’s unions are in cahoots with the democrats to destroy the USA. These propagandists must be removed from the classroom at once and the union must be outlawed. We cannot continue to subsidize the democrat party’s campaign to destroy the USA.

    • JC

      Its both sides of the aisle Bob.

      • Patty

        I take sides on that. It is more left than right.

        • JC

          Fair enough. The sytem itself is completely corrupt though.

          • Patty

            Agreed.

  • http://Maxwell.af.mil Mickey

    From a Marine and Former member of the New Orleans Police Department, 1970-73 while in Graduate School,I would like to see everyone convicted of murder, rape, theft, child abuse, spouse abuse, and any crime short of a minor traffice offense, be hung, and the bodies left hanging from a light pole. Michael Vick should have been doused in gasoline, and set afire.

    God help us!

    Semper Fi

    WMR

    • Mick

      Mickey

      Totally agree…We would have to worry about the trash rooming our streets or about the crimes they commit,’get rid of the bad weeds and you will get a good crop……….

      • Mick

        Sorry,,,Should be ” We wouldn’t have to worry “

    • 45caliber

      The one reason we have such bad gangs is because of the justice system.

      Back in the early 60′s the gangs got started. The officials simply declared it illegal to belong to a gang. The police picked up all the gang members and sent them to jail. The gangs stopped suddenly. Now the schools not only tolerate them but also allow them to do whatever they like – supposedly to “prevent violence at the schools.” And when they are caught the judges barely tap their hands.

      • 45caliber

        I did get a laugh a couple of years about a story in Arkansas (not published unfortunately).

        One of the colored people in town was a hard working man and was well respected. He worked as a garage mechanic (and is an excellent one).

        He got off work late one evening and drove home. When he turned onto his street, he was stopped by four young gang members. They informed him that the street belonged to them and no one not a member of their gang could use it. When he stepped out of his truck, they attacked him. Unfortunately, they didn’t notice he was holding a tire iron.

        When he got back to his house, he called the police to pick them up. None died but he also stated that if he saw a single gang member in his neighborhood again, he was going to get mean. The entire gang left town.

        • barbm

          my grandmother, a nurse, lived in mississippi and worked the night shift. on her way home one night, she was accosted at a red light. the perp told her, “roll down your window girl and give me your wallet.” she rolled down the window, pulled a .38 out of her purse, pointed it at hime, and asked, “how old does a female have to be where you come from before she’s a woman?” when she cocked it, she said he looked like the roadrunner legs cranking trying to go but standing still. long live the 2nd ammendment!!

        • Gregg Jackson

          “colored people”? What are you, 120 years old or just horribly mis-informed?

          • barbm

            perhaps he was using the vernacular of the era in which it happened. who cares? you can say the burnt one on the end for all i care. we’re going to pc ourselves into annihilation.

          • 45caliber

            They still call themselves colored people and Negr0 there. I used their word they are comfortable with. Down here they call themselves ni##ers but they get upset if anyone else calls them that.

          • sylviam

            Gregg Jackson, that person was trying to be nice, can’t you afford them by the same or are you just trying to be a Jack azz?

          • DaveH

            How old does this make me, Gregg? Troll.

          • libertytrain

            45 – I don’t think people like him realize the truth about what you said about what some folks call themselves, in parts of the country still today. He’s obviously not well-traveled, or doesn’t get to know the area he visits.

          • Vigilant

            The guarantees of the First Amendment only apply to politically correct speech, haven’t you heard?

          • Patty

            Gregg J – And I am sure some of your “Best friends” are black. ya, right.

          • Cawmun Cents

            Ever notice that every cultural ehtnic group has their own special name besides Caucasians?They all call us”white”and they are Latinos and African Americans,Pacific Rim,Hispanics,Middle Eastern,and many more.It is an obvious attempt to make us”racists”from the get go.Hve you ever looked on a document that you are about to file,or an application,or paperwork that someone asks you to fill out?There are no fancy titles for Americans of European descent.Just”white”.Why is that acceptable to the ACLU?Shouldnt they begin a class action suit against the government for bias?It would only seem to be”fair”,wouldnt it?Lets see…what can we re-name our cultural group?How about European Americans?No…its been done using another continent by another ethnic group.I know… American/Indo-Eurasian!Yes thats it!Every application and piece of paperwork needs to be changed to reflect our new ethnic identity.We will no longer tolerate being just plain old”white”.We will now be known only as American/Indo-Eurasian.Yep…going to file suit to make the billions of dollars in changes immediately.Where is Alan Dershowitz when I need him?

    • Patty

      I would rather have him(Vick) put into a pen with pitbulls. May the best dog win.

      • Mick

        Patty says:
        April 15, 2011 at 1:06 am
        I would rather have him(Vick) put into a pen with pitbulls. May the best dog win.

        **************************
        Patty,,,,,,,,,Funny that’s was my first though after the story broke. i guess we’re both inhumane to the liberal ideology…………………

    • http://deleted Claire

      Mickey– I agree with you concerning Vick. He is the lowest of low.

  • Robert

    if the cta, thinks that he is a hero, then the cta needs to be decertidied and the people should get an inititive petition to privitize the school system and ban school unions so our children will have a quality education. teachers job is to educate the students and give them a platform to succede in life. they are not to preach political activism that glorifies evil and praise the evil doers. this is turning truth and honesty upside down and causing idiots to graduate from our schools.

    • Mick

      Without a doubt Robert, they are hurting America by creating morons who will never be able be fiscally and morally responsible and to fight back when necessary….

      • 45caliber

        Mick:

        They WANT them to be that way so they will depend upon the government for a living and vote for them – and they certainly don’t want them able to defend themselves when the government people show up to escort them to their local concentration camp.

  • mrbill

    The truly sad part is: These people are teaching your kids.

    • Patty

      Lots of those kids are looking for big brother/sisters. Take the time, join one of the organizations, maybe they can be de-programmed.
      Me personally, I foster care dogs for adoption. Easier to train and I can put a shock collar on them. :)

      • http://deleted Claire

        Patty–You mentioned shock collars, have you ever had the problem of shock collars burning the hair off the dog’s throat?

        • Jana

          Claire,
          My girl friend had to use a shock collar because her dog (an Australian Shepherd ) kept disturbing the neighbors during the day while they were at work. That dog was very smart. After the first 3 barks, the dog was whispering its barks. She learned very quickly that when that collar went on it was time to whisper.

  • Ken

    I would protect a person as well as an animal however I would have no problem killing a mad dog.

    • 45caliber

      Every species kills their rogues and mad-dogs. Except man. We try to “cure” them instead. My favorite cure is a bullet.

    • Mick

      Same here Ken. I guess we belong to the inhumane part of society according to the Liberal’s Logic,,Humm,,,,what logic ???

      • Jana

        You are right Mick! They have NO logic.

  • The ‘AMERICAN’

    If there is ‘ABSOLUTE PROOF—NO QUESTION OF GUILT’ about the fact that someone committed cold blooded murder,or treason,that wasn’t in some way justified,what would the reason be that the person should be NOT be put to death ASAP if convicted? Rather than life in prison with no hope of parole, for possibly years on end, why not settle the matter and execute them. Why should the taxpayer be burdened with keeping them alive for one moment more than their final sentence of guilty? That person is never going to get out into society again anyway unless he escapes. Some people say that “executing that person won’t deter crime”. I beg to differ with that opinion. If nothing else, it will deter that criminal from initiating that kind of crime again — anywhere, anytime. The act of ‘execution’ is final, and to the point. That in itself, with no other explanation, is a ‘permanent’ deterrent in that instance.
    Just a note: Think about what your decision would be if ever (God forbid), one or more of your family members are murdered in cold blood for no apparent reason other than a robbery. If this situation should come home to you on a very personal basis, what would you deem as ‘justice’?

  • bhscpa

    California Federation of Teachers is a far-left organization that should be treated like a child abuser and kept away from all children. The left continues to feel freer to allow their real agenda to come out, thanks to the radical-in-chief Obama being in office. Show us what you’re really about radicals so patriotic Americans can put you in their crosshairs.

    • JC

      They sure as hell aren’t “educators”. They’re “indoctrinators” from the People’s Republic of California. (Mexifornia?)

      • JeffH

        JC, commonly referred to as the “Republic of Kalifornia”.

  • Thor

    Reasonable, orthodox, conservative folk err when they assume progressives are illogical people or they are unintelligent. Progressives are both intelligent and logical; and the mechanism of logic is precisely the same for everyone, and it is a process that cannot be altered or defeated. The objective is what changes things: the objective of progressives is to change things; the objective of conservatives is to resist change until a more perfect solution presents itself or is devised. Conservatives cling to a status quo that at any given present forms a tangent with the thousands of years of history that produced it and that presents a virtually unassailable monument when genuine logic is the only tool with which to assail it; therefore, progressives have little recourse if they are to produce any immediate result: they are forced to apply ‘reverse’ or ‘oblique’ logic if they are to produce any sudden change at all. To produce the ‘social justice’ they seek, they must first demolish the foundation of orthodoxy; and the only means available without creating an obvious illogic or absurdity is to chip away at it with relativism, multi-culturalism and ‘tolerance’ of the unorthodox. A cop is viewed as a hero in orthodoxy; a cop killer is therefore a hero. The deaths of innocent unborn are acceptable; the death of a convicted killer is not. Teachers are supposed to present the facts objectively and allow students to decide politically for themselves; teachers are duty bound to think for their students and render all truth relative. If it is not broken, don’t fix it; if there is to be change, you must break it whether it is fixed or not. After a time one starts to see the pattern. At first it seems simply absurd but then the real objective begins to emerge—relativism, the dissolution of all absolute truth, anarchy and then the final remedy that everyone will cherish, the sublime socialist state under a communist regime that will make life simple for everyone by telling us all what to think. Progressives are right about one thing—the death penalty is not a deterrent, particularly when you proscribe it but never carry it out. None of this alters the fact that Mumia Abu-Jamal is a murderer and that if his sentence had been carried out at the appointed time, some 30 years ago, he would not now still have the wherewithal to kill again and we would not be talking about him. The logical conclusion that remains incontrovertible with the facts is that there is no better individual deterrent than that! And the only variation of absolute justice in the application of the death penalty is the absolute injustice of not applying it.

    • 45caliber

      Liberals base all their decisions on a “theory of utopia”. There is no logic involved since logic leads to conclusions based on facts. Liberals simply jump to a conclusion based on their theory (guess).

      Conservatives base their decisions on “learned experience”. This could be their own experience (one reason more older people are conservative) or it could be based on the learned experiences (history) of others.

      Liberals share the belief that there should be no money at all. If you need something, you should be allowed to have it. Everyone works at whatever they wish to do and will therefore enjoy work and do a wonderful job of it. (Of course, their own job would be to direct everyone else.) There should be no want at all since all your wants would be immediately filled. This includes sexual desires, so to allow all to enjoy whatever fantasy they might have, everyone should believe in free sex and willingly engage with anyone interested. Whenever one starts on this, I like to ask if they are the ones who are going to volunteer to be the sewer cleaners.

      Conservatives use facts to make decisions and therefore tend to think more logically. (Actually probably half of all people do NOT think logically. It could be an even higher ration. It is HARD to think logically. Ask a computer programmer.) If something worked last time, do it again the next time a problem comes up. If something didn’t work, do something else – even if you aren’t sure it will work either. At least it will a “learned experience”. This is also good since it means that conservatives tend to introduce most new inventions while liberals tend to concentrate on emotion issues.

      • Gregg Jackson

        Conservatives don’t use facts at all! It’s all made-up malarky from empty mouth-pieces like Lady Rush and Mr. Ann Coulter.

        • 45caliber

          See what I mean about libs simply pulling conclusions from their “theory”?

          • Lastmanstanding

            45, when the shtf…guys like gregg will be the first to go.

        • DaveH

          I hear more intelligent statements from my 11 year old grandson, Gregg.

        • Vigilant

          “Conservatives don’t use facts at all! It’s all made-up malarky from empty mouth-pieces like Lady Rush and Mr. Ann Coulter.”

          No, Gregg, the facts are found in the source documents of our nation’s founding. They’re found in the daily experiences of millions of people, in observation and logic. They’re found in simple worship or in reading the works of John Locke, Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Martin Luther King.

          We find what it means to be American in looking at the charitable works we do, or looking into the face of a child. We marvel at the sublime beauty of our national parks, and the solid promises marking our monuments. The truth is found in a soldier’s quarters, a restaurant, the workplace and the playground.

          The conservative appreciates and is grateful for the gift of individual liberty and the hundreds of thousands who have died to preserve it. Our vision is what has kept America and all that is uniquely American alive for the coming generations.

          It’s a heartbreaking shame that the leftists would deface, maim and destroy all that is good about this country.

        • Patty

          Greg-You have no base without facts. Where are yours? Give me some examples.

  • Michael

    While I find the concepts that the “teacher” union advances to be both lacking in intelligence and common sense. The death penalty presents
    a double edge sword. I sat for two years on a federal grand jury, and saw so many federal persecutors attempt to rail road people for their
    own (the persecutor) advancement that I have absolutely no faith in our judicial system. The lack of common sense in the members of the grand jury as well as their lack of any legal knowledge as to what an indictment meant… also made me question the priority of what we
    laughably call a “Justice System”

    That said.. the number of people who have been found not guilty due to dna evidence while sitting on death row, due to prosecutors with holding evidence so that they could also advance their careers by convicting innocent people, makes me very fearful of using the death
    penalty unless there is absolutely no doubt what so ever as to the guilt of the person. In the current case, this may be true, but
    you can’t set free a dead person who was wrongfully convicted.

    I do not trust juries. I do not trust prosecutors. I do not trust judges, especially those who will not allow jurors the right of
    nullification. I absolutely do not trust public sector unions,
    and thus require a great deal more evidence to believe any thing
    that they support.. but lets not get carried away by killing everyone we disagree with, or hold in disdain, because you may find yourself
    in the clutches of a corrupt legal system. (and when they came for me, there was no one left to support me).

    Put this maniac into Pelican Bay, in total isolation, and do not allow any visitation what so ever… he will soon be forgotten. Then disband the “teacher” union, or remove any ability for them to negotiate or collect dues. That would be a good start.
    people

  • Gregg Jackson

    Mumia Abu-Jamal didn’t kill the cop – the only thing he is guilty of is being a militant black activist.

    As the Pennsylvania courts have seen – Abu-Jamal was unable to make the bedside confession that prosecutors pointed to; another individual stepped forward in 1999 to take responsibility; and irregularities were found in the original process of sentencing (that voided the death sentence).

    George Ryan, the former Republican Governor of Illinois declared a moratorium on Illinois’ death penalty in part due to these types of irregularities: false or forced confessions, evidence and witnesses that has been tampered with and other legal irregularites. Ryan has not been the only Republican governor to come to this conclusion in the US.

    You can blast me all you want with your putdowns – but doesn’t the victim’s family deserve to have the real killer punished – not a convenient political target?

    • Bob

      Although there are instances of “innocent” men being wrongfully accused; people like you fail to account for the damage done when the guilty go free. I suspect that the damage done when the guilty go free is much more than when the innocent are jailed or excecuted. Much of the problem stems from a legal system infested by those who care nothing about justice, but who care only about winning. Our system is imperfect, and needs reform, but not by your sort. By the way, George Ryan is a scumbag whose corruption caused him to go to prison. Typical poster boy for the lieberals (he was a RINO, not a conservative Republican).

      • 45caliber

        Greg said that another man stepped forward to take the blame.

        It seems he left a letter claiming he was the guilty one after he had died. But then it seems that a lot of dying convicts tend to write these letters just before they die and the person who might be freed gets them weeks or months later from some unknown source.

        How can someone else say he shot the cop when over a dozen people, including the brother he “saved” from arrest, insist he did it? How come his gun was used to kill the cop and it had his fingerprints on it – and no one else’s? How come he had the cop’s bullet in him?

        Some people, like Greg, will believe anything if it follows his theory.

    • 45caliber

      Boy, are you falling for the liberal line on this! You are totally ignoring ALL the facts that link this man to the crime, including his own wound. Further, he was a drugee, not a militant. He even admits that. Unless you insist that a militant is anyone who shoots a cop …

    • JeffH

      Gregg must be the latest liberal sent to disrupt or at least try to disrupt PLD.

      Say bye bye to Gregg!

    • http://! Angel Wannabe

      HRAGG JACKSON, I DON’T KNOW WHERE YOUR FROM BUT IT AIN’T PA!!!!

      http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1330

      • http://! Angel Wannabe

        Gregg!

    • Thor

      Now Gregg…what was that you were saying above about ‘facts’ and ‘mouth pieces’? I find this the most hypocritical statement I have seen in quite sometime.

  • BonnieMW

    People who kill cops and cops who kill people should all be held accountable. The subject should absolutely not be part of 2nd graders education. I don’t know the specifics of this incident but he should not be held as an example or certainly not a hero. I do have a personal friend who is a black man that’s son was killed by San Diego police for absolutely unjustified reasons. He was threatening to committed suicide and locked himself in his room. His mother called the police for help. They came and demanded for him to come out and he didn’t. They busted down the door and he was in the closet and they shot him 14 times. He was in the closet holding his bible in a praying position. There are some very bad police some are arrogant and egotistical and some are prejudice and many times just negligent or even corrupt.

    • 45caliber

      There are some cops who are – but please don’t tar the other 99% of them with the same brush as a result. Most of the bad cops end up in prison themselves.

      • Jana

        Bonnie,
        Have you ever heard of the term suicide by cop? There are many things that could have taken place that even his mother didn’t see. He may have acted like he did have a gun and was going to shoot it at the police. You weren’t there, and his mother wasn’t in that room. Then,it may have even been a mistake in judgement as even the police are just humans doing the best they can in very serious situations, but rest assured God saw it all, and it will be dealt with.

        • http://deleted Claire

          Jana: I have edited several manuscripts concerning suicide by cop. This has become a growing problem that is tough to deal with.

    • Thor

      Sorry you feel that way, Bonnie. I am curious to know who you plan to call when you need protection if not a cop. And…as a practical matter, if you are not a witness to an event then you cannot with good conscience apply the term ‘absolutely’ to it; and even then, you may not have seen what you thought you saw–unless of course it helps the defense.

  • Rocky J Squirrel.

    As far as being a deterrent, the death penalty is the only penalty that ensures a murderer Never Murders Again. These morons murder the weak in prison. Death solves that problem permanently. “If you come to TEXAS and kill someone we will kill you back”.
    As far as cops go, a badge is not a license to kill, every case must be looked at on its merits, the case with the boy in the closet above does not meet the standards of murder. Abu-Jamal however was tried and convicted “enter the sandman”.

  • jopa

    One conservative blog makes up a story and the rest take it as fact.Fox news is good for this also.I would like to see the actual minutes of the meeting where this action supposedly occurred.All I can find are conservative blogs with the same story that makes no sense at all.Why would they give a rip?

    • DaveH

      Okay, Jopa, here it is from the horses mouth (see page 33, resolution 19):
      http://www.cft.org/uploads/Convention2011/2011_Conv_resolutions_Final_JG.pdf

      Perhaps you could enlighten us as to where Fox News has erred. I could generalize and say all Liberals are liars if I wanted to behave like a Liberal. Hmmm, maybe they are.

      • JeffH

        Oh DaveH, you’ve just spoiled nother liberals day…without using FOX as a reference. LMAO!

      • Bob

        They are.

      • Vigilant

        Good link Dave. The document reads like a leftist primer.

        I doubt jopa will even peek at it, or if he does, you’ll never see him issue a retraction. You’ve got him dead to rights on this, now let’s see if he has the courage to admit he’s wrong.

  • glo

    People, especially our younger with school age kids, needs to wake up and realize our public schools are not for educating our kids to succeed, but to become social, non-thinking puppets. They’re taught that America is evil, good morals & ethics are wrong and GOD is non-existant. Charter schools are hated by them because many of them are going back to just the plain old education of our kids and because (smart) parents are fed up with the nonsense of the public schools.
    I’ve been employed with the public schools for 22 years and am gearing my children to seek our excellent, local charter school to put my grandkids instead of the public school. Beware too, they’re little by little going to push Islam on your kids. Mohammad was just another religious figure on this earth and is not deity. His writings even acknowledged Christ and all the wonderful things he did. Go figure. So, for the exalting of cop-killers by our public schools (remember California sets the program for public schools), it’s time to demonstrate against this. Support your charter schools or some of the other non-secular schools. Especially, when it comes to college look to put your kids in ones that are not geared to politically brainwashing your kids in the anti-America, anti-morals, anti-God, anti-family retoric. I would love to see parents with some guts pull their kids out of these schools and detest these radical so-called professors. Money is the only way they’ll get the picture.
    Pay attention to what is going on in your schools and community & confront them on these wrong issues. We’re a nation asleep and we’re teaching our children to sleep. Psalms 9:17

  • T.L.

    There is only one peril were killing a cop would be justified. That is if he/she has a TOTAL DISREGARD for his/her oath and is willfully breaking the law while toting a badge. This peril only comes up rarely when people are vigilant and stand up for their liberty. The cop in this case was DOING HIS DUTY. To be killed while DOING your job, be it Law Enforcement or flipping burgers for that matter is KILLING, PLAIN AND SIMPLE. This SCUMBAG should be fried on National Television to set an example of the ilk he represents.
    The problem with our country today is that the punishment don’t fit the crime. If you KILL for personal economic and political gain, you should be hung, shot, electrocuted upon conviction. When we did that here in the 19th and early 20th centuries, crime was low and the law abiding was safe. Today it is the criminal who is “safe”, everyone else be wary; because we “coddle” crime and the criminal element, whether it is rich or poor. Criminals know that they “have it made” when they go to jail. That is not punishment at all, it is reward.
    A nutty idea I propose, a prison purge; a la Stalin style. It would make these “lefties” see the end result of their worship of Marx/Engals. It would also make governments balance their budgets quicker. Less prison-leeches, less prison costs. It would also serve as a deterrent to those who are already out. “If I get popped, I might be dispached at anytime, no way, I aint a goin back in” It would also set an example for the next generation whose lack of raise’n, rich or poor, would know that the big house can be cleaned at any time, no questions asked. This fact alone would deter crime with rightful discouragement. Did they have a lot of crime during the Stalin years in Russia, I don’t think so. Do keep the right to a speedy trail, no appeal in criminal cases involving loss of life or limb. Rape, same thing, let’em hang. It is not “good” when both don’t want some and consent to it. That “power play” that rapist always use is always solved with a good rope.

  • Dan az

    Breaking News
    Today after losing her fight in the ninth district court and now is going to take it to the supreme court,Jan Brewer signed into law today that if you want on the ballot you most show your birth certificate.Now that made my day how about you?

    • Dan az

      We need eligibility bills filed in each and every state of the union … as it shows the regime that we are still the nation of law and the Constitution, that the Constitution matters and state representatives and senators are ready to fight for the rule of law. During the last election there were some 700 more Republican state assemblyman elected all over the country, as the nation is not willing to tolerate this assault on our rights and our Constitution any further,”

      Read more: Eligibility verification just 1 vote from governor http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=286677#ixzz1JY9Lhp5M

    • Jana

      That Jan Brewer is a great Lady and a fine warrior. I like her style.

    • Mick

      Sh*t Dan, they’re going to block that too considering it’s for the good of the Country………

  • jopa

    DaveH: Thanks for the link I do believe it now and that is crazy.Typical of that California mentality.Many a loony out there right JeffH

  • Donald

    In recent years some who have been jailed for life have been found not to have done the crime based on DNA and other evidence. If they had been executed, these injustices could never have been corrected.

    The jury system is not infallible and because of that, the death penalty should not be imposed.

    Some commenting here seem to think the jail is like a walk in the park. The loss of freedom is a horrendous penalty as any freedom lover should recognize. In fact, look at how often criminals die in gun fights with the police rather than face life in prison.

    Also, execution is a one time thing. Life in prison is a punishment that goes on forever. Living the life of a caged animal is, for many, worse than death.

    As for deterrence, some people are deterred from speeding by the threat of a ticket, others are not deterred from rape and murder by the threat of a death sentence. Deterrence only works some of the time and only for some of the people. By the way, a murderer was never deterred from the original crime, which is when deterrence counts.

    • Jay

      Donald, you would rather physiologically torture someone for the rest of their life then execute them? That doesn’t sound like justice to me, rather, it sounds like revenge that one can savour for a long time, which is not justice, its also sick and perverted! If you take a life, then your life is required, period!

  • Mick

    Vigilant says:
    April 14, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    The conservative appreciates and is grateful for the gift of individual liberty and the hundreds of thousands who have died to preserve it. Our vision is what has kept America and all that is uniquely American alive for the coming generations.

    It’s a heartbreaking shame that the leftists would deface, maim and destroy all that is good about this country.

    ***************************************88
    Vigilant,,,You couldn’t be more right, what a pity……

  • LTCMSCUSAR1

    A few years ago I was called for jury duty. The federal judge asked me my thoughts on capital punishment. I told him I belived any one who commits a crime with a weapon, and that includes automobiles, clubs, guns, knives, any implement being used as a weapon should be given the death penalty. By possesing the weapon in the commision of a crime, whether actually used or not, the thought was there before the crime, or they would not have “it”, therefore the intent was there.

    I was dismissed for cause by the defense.

    • JC

      Last time I was called for Jury Duty, I told them I refused to convict anyone of anything until this country returns to a system of justice. Got a letter from someone with an Arab name excusing me.

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