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Perry Criticizes Administration’s Stance On Abortion, Stem Cells

June 15, 2011 by  

The Governor of Texas was critical of Obama's abortion stance.Texas Governor Rick Perry, a Republican, recently criticized the Barack Obama Administration for its stance on abortion and stem cell research.

In Los Angeles on June 12, Perry addressed a mostly Hispanic crowd of about 5,000 and railed against the President’s stance on reproductive decisions, according to The Associated Press.

The Governor said that the Obama Administration’s handling of stem cell research was “turning the remains of unborn children into nothing more than raw material.”

Obama has slightly bypassed a 1996 law that prevents the government from spending money on work that damages embryos by allowing the harvesting of stem cells to be done with private money and then using money from taxpayers to fund work on the cells, reports the news source.

Reuters reports that Perry also said that since Roe v. Wade, “50 million children have lost their chance at life — a tragic legacy of judicial activism and a stark reminder that our culture and our country are still in peril.”

The AP reports that Perry had earlier dismissed talk about his potential run for the White House but has also said that he was going to “think about it.”

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  • TIME

    Would this be the most recent Bilderberg blessed person?
    DUH, yes indeed! Not a good choice.

    • GregS

      If your’re saying that just because of his views on abortion and embryonic stem cell research, then I strongly disagree!

      • TIME

        Greg,

        I think I was abundantly clear with the text of my post. But perhaps I was not clear enough.
        Persons blessed by the Builderburgs then became POTUS;

        Johnson
        Nixon
        Ragun
        Bush Daddy
        Clinton
        Bush JR
        Barry Soetoro, please note that Hillery was there at the same TIME, Who got the big nod, who got the little nod?

        I hope thats cleared up what my post is about.

        • GregS

          I apologize, Time. I overlooked his attendance at that conference in Istanbul in 2007. I was more focused on the content of the above article, as opposed to the man himself. You are right. In fact, he appears to be just another Donald Trump.

          • Robert Smith

            Is this thread the same Bilderbegs thing Jessy Ventura was yammering about on his TV program?

            Rob

  • GregS

    Out of all the 15-20 years and billions of dollars that have been poured into fetal/embryonic stem cell research, NO treatments have EVER been developed – NADA!!! This is because they’ve NEVER been able to prevent tumors that result from the implantation of these types of cells into the body. Obummer’s obsession with this type of research is just another example of how he is WASTING the taxpayers’ money!

    There are three very good reasons for NOT using embryonic stem cells (ESC) for the treatment of disease:

    The development of tumors (as mentioned above), which has NEVER been overcome.

    The patient has to be shot up with anti-immune drugs for the rest of his/her life, because ESCs are foreign cells, which cause the patient to produce antibodies against them.

    Unethical: The use of embryonic stem cells is outright cannibalism. It takes the life of many other living human organisms. As many as ten to twenty embryos must be killed to establish even a single cell line.

    There are two other types of stem cells which show FAR more promise than ESCs:

    <Adult stem cells (ASCs): These are cells that are plentiful in many parts of the patient’s own body, especially in the bone marrow. Although they are not pleuripotent (i.e. they cannot develop into many cell types), like ESCs, over 70 treatments (and still counting) have been developed, using this type of cells.

    <Induced pleuripotent stem cells (iPSCs): These cells can be obtained from the patient’s own skin or fat, and they act exactly like embryonic stem cells (i.e. they can be made to develop into many different cell types.

    Both ASCs and iPSCs overcome the three issues mentioned above, and money spent on research on these two types of stem cells would get FAR more bang for the buck! If I were a patient with an incurable disease, waiting for a treatment to come out of stem cell research, I would be really upset with those people who are WASTING valuable time and money with embryonic stem cells! I have no respect for those who are obsessed with ESC research. They are just in this for job protection and money, because, when it embryonic stem cells, “research” is all that it will ever be. What a WASTE!!!

    This is yet another reason to vote Obummer out of office!

    • GregS

      “…when it embryonic stem cells…” should be “…when it involves embryonic stem cells…”

    • Robert Smith

      Hey Greg, you never answered the post I put up from several medical schools and research centers, complete with article citations, where fetal stem cell research was making a positive impact.

      Simply ignoring it and lying that it doesn’t work won’t make it go away.

      I can dig it out again if you don’t remember it.

      Rob

      • GregS

        Robert, if anyone is “ignoring…and lying,” it’s YOU!

        It’s a FACT that NO (0) treatments have been developed from the research that they’ve done on embryonic stem cells, even after all the time and money that has been poured into it. If you say otherwise, then YOU are the one whose lying. Regardless of how many “article citations” that you post, you can’t make that FACT “go away.”

        Feel free to dig out the post that you said you did, but please don’t just re-print it. Provide the link to the original post, so that I can see exactly what was being said at the time. I’d be willing to bet that you posted it long after everyone had left, which is probably why I don’t remember it. Otherwise, I probably just overlooked it.

        • Jay

          GregS, I have told that idiot in previous rooms regarding the subject at hand, embryonic stem cell research is pointless, useless and a complete waste of time! There has been more benefits and success with adult stem cells. One thing you have to know about Robert, he’s enamoured with same-sex marriage and abortion. Those are his two passions and he will fight you tooth and nail on both, to the death if necessary. Another words, you’re just wasting your time with that worm infested parasite!

          • Robert Smith
          • http://naver samurai

            Stop lying rob, monkey tool. We don’t do that here, but we do ones from adults. Get off of the site and let the patriots take this country back. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • GregS

            As usual, Robert, you have veered WAY off topic! I didn’t have to read any further than the subtitle of the article that you referenced:

            In Mouse Experiment, Cells From Testes Are Transformed

            So, what does this have to do with treatments developed from human embryonic stem cells???

            Just in case you STILL don’t get what we are talking about, I’ll repeat what I said at the beginning of my post:

            No treatments have ever been developed from embryonic stem cell research, even after 15-20 years and billions of dollars that have been poured into it.

        • Robert Smith

          Hey Greg, check out: A Sweet Success for Embryonic Stem Cells

          It’s at: http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2008/02/20-02.html

          Rob

          • http://naver samurai

            How would they get these cells, hmmm? They can’t take them from live fetuses, now can they? Unplanned parenthood would be making a fortune off of this venture. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • GregS

            Robert,

            1. First of all, I asked you to give the link of the POST that you accused me of not answering, NOT the link of the article:

            You said:

            “Hey Greg, you never answered the post I put up from several medical schools and research centers…”

            I then said:

            “Provide the link to the original post, so that I can see exactly what was being said at the time.”

            2. Secondly, the article that you referenced STILL has NOTHING to do with treatments developed from human embryonic stem cells. That’s what we are talking about here, NOT just mere petri-dish successes in the lab. Again, Robert, you’ve veered WAY off topic!

            O.K., ONE MORE TIME (in case you STILL don’t get it):

            No treatments have ever been developed from embryonic stem cell research, even after 15-20 years and billions of dollars that have been poured into it.

      • http://naver samurai

        Rob, still throwing feces and swinging from a rubber tire, eh? Get off of the lies and tell the truth for once. One reason, though there are several, that people don’t want fetal stem cells research is that women will have abortions and get paid by giving their aborted fetus’ to them for research. Sorry, not paying anyone to kill someone. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Robert Smith

          Really samurai????

          I’m sure you have a citation for that one?

          No?

          Then it’s a simple lie.

          Then then samurai and simple…

          Rob

          • http://naver samurai

            Ahhhhh such wordplay to insult others and steal their rights. Sorry ignorant one, but we both know that this will be one way unplanned parenthood will make money once other states, not just Indiana, defund them. Need to do better than that. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • joe

    important to note is that neither of these things are in the national limelight right now. why the heck is he talking about this? why doesnt he talk about the wars, jobs, or the economy?
    he’s trying to talk about ‘conservative issues’ to pad his ‘I’m one of you’ statistics before he announces his run.
    Abortion is the product of a sick society and not the cause of it. there are bigger fish to fry and bigger issues to tackle than this, but Perry knows his stances on these will be unpopular. So, he tries to bring back the abortion/stem cell debate, whether this is on the mind of the American public or not.

  • Bob Marshall

    Bill Gates, a CFR and Bilderberg member said in an interview the world is too heavily populated. That number needs to be reduced to one sixth.When asked how whould he accomplish that.his answer was through vaccines and abortions.That would be a start.He also said, people believe many of the diseases today are by accident. Nothing happens by accident!Great guy!

    • Robert Smith

      Nothing happens by accident, huh?

      Then I guess it’s your brutal god who inflicts tornados on the rest of us.

      Rob

      • http://naver samurai

        Knock off the hate speech, monkey tool. It’s not allowed here. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Robert Smith

          Apparently your name calling is allowed.

          So much name calling, so few facts.

          Rob

          • http://naver samurai

            Ahhhhh such wordplay as to insult others and steal their rights. Since I agree with what Greg has posted, there is no need for me to post anything. Your sites you have posted are very left leaning and do not hold water, as the are not objective. You lose again! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://www.spiritjewelry.info Suzanne

    While I think stem cells have a lot of potential, I don’t think they are a platform to run on.
    Likewise abortion… who would support all these extra children by crack mothers? Believe me, the company I work for sponsors a family at Christmas… every department gets one of the kids or the mother. The younger the kid, the more likely and more profound the kid’s handicap. I don’t agree with supporting an infinite number of welfare babies. If you can’t work, you don’t have the right to reproduce.

    That said, stay out of my sex life. No man should have a vote regarding anything having to do with womens’ health and reproductive rights.

    I’m in Texas. Rick Perry has sold us all out… he hangs out with the other Bilderbergers. He has consistently pandered to big pharma, big business and NAFTA to give away our rights AND our tax money. He won’t close the border with Mexico. He won’t do anything to pull the illegal aliens out of our welfare and education systems. He is part of the problem.

  • Ranger 1

    Rob:

    As a scientist who taught Biotechnology at UC Berkeley, I fear your effort to convince folks like Samurai, GregS, and others, who sound like knuckle-dragging conservatives suffering from a congenital form of cranial constipation, of the value of research on stem cells, is likely to be an exercise in futility. You see, it’s entirely possible that being a Conservative is not just a state of mind, but perhaps a consequence of their biological makeup. Recent research on the size of the amygdala of the brain, for example, has shown that the larger and more pronounced the amygdala, an almond-shaped collection of nuclei located in the anterior portions of the temporal lobes of the brain, the greater the probability that they will amplify the processing of information related to fear and threats. A psychological review of the conservative mind shows that they are far more easily aroused by fear or threats, which can take the form of such social phenomenon as fear of change, or newness, or different. Their rejection of things like global climate change, same-sex marriage, minorities, etc. can then be viewed as not necessarily being a result of their simply being retarded, but rather a possible consequence of the size of their amygdala.

    • http://naver samurai

      I see another one who prefers to throw feces and swing from a rubber tire has made it. Just go away and leave this country and its running to the patriots and not some twit like you. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      P.S. No matter what words you use, it’s all just lies.

    • GregS

      O.K., Robert, take off the mask! Anyone with any sort of background in science, who disagrees with my comments, would have at least challenged me directly by providing scientific evidence to prove me wrong, rather than hiding behind a fake set of credentials, and throwing around some unrelated biological terms in the form of emotional insults. Give me a break! Sounds like Robert Smith to me!

      For someone who supposedly “taught Biotechnology at UC Berkeley,” you don’t sound too intelligent, Robert! That’s why I know it’s YOU!

      • http://naver samurai

        A lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxist be intelligent? You have to give Rob credit for his perserverence, but that is dashed by his lack of brains on any subject. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • GregS

      As someone who has an aversion to left-winger trolls, I couldn’t resist the temptation to put this post through the shredder one more time, just to make sure I covered all the points:

      Ranger 1 aka Robert Smith says:

      “…your effort to convince folks like Samurai, GregS, and others…of the value of research on stem cells, is likely to be an exercise in futility.”

      As I pointed out earlier on this page, there are several types of stem cells: Embryonic stem cells (ESC), adult stem cells (ASC), and induced pleuripotent stem cells (iPSC). To imply that we are against research on ALL stem cells is a lie! I strongly support research on ASC and iPSC.

      So, Robert, are you trying to create a false impression that we are against all stem cell research, or didn’t you know that there are different types of stem cells? Which is it???

      Ranger 1 aka Robert Smith says:

      “Recent research on the size of the amygdala of the brain…has shown that the larger…the amygdala,…the greater the probability that they will amplify the processing of information related to fear and threats.”

      “A psychological review of the conservative mind shows that they are far more easily aroused by fear or threats, which can take the form of such social phenomenon as fear of change, or newness, or different.”

      Robert, I clearly stated the reasons earlier on this page why I am against ESC research, and they had nothing to do with “fear of change” or “newness:” Besides killing living human organisms, this research is a complete WASTE of time and money, which would be better spent on ASC research and iPSC research.

      Furthermore, I strongly SUPPORT research on ASC and iPSC, which directly contradicts your claim of my “fear of change.”

      Therefore, Robert, “research” and “psychological review[s]” on the differences between liberals and conservatives have absolutely NOTHING to do with our views on stem cell research.

      Ranger 1 aka Robert Smith says:

      “…Samurai, GregS, and others, who sound like knuckle-dragging conservatives suffering from a congenital form of cranial constipation…can then be viewed as not necessarily being a result of their simply being retarded, but rather a possible consequence of the size of their amygdala.”

      As I’ve said previously, Robert, you totally lack the ability to participate in any type of discussion. Your responses to my comments on this page are a perfect example:

      – You threw in links to articles that had NOTHING to do with what was being discussed.
      – You didn’t include any discussion of your own with those links.
      – When you found that you couldn’t respond intelligently to any of my comments, you then impersonated someone with fake credentials, and you started ranting about “research” that supposedly proves that conservatives are inferior, which had nothing to do with my comments on stem cell reserch.

      Talk about “knuckle-dragging,” “cranial constipation,” and “retardation”, Robert: You win first prize!

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