Governments Kill People!

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Governments always strive for population control, sometimes overtly and some covertly.

When we think of governments killing people, we think of Adolf Hitler’s Germany and Nazism or Muslimism and fascism. But all big government kills!

Democracies kill covertly and benevolently. They carry out mass murder in many ways. For example, democracy creates war under the pretense of patriotism. Millions of people die and never rebel. It’s repeated over and over. Yet the people never catch on, and they never rebel. It’s amazing.

For the purpose of this discussion, we look at how the medical establishment in American democracy kills millions of people.

The American government makes constant war on the people covertly. It is so covert that only a handful of people in government are even aware. Indeed, it may be fewer than a handful of people who are aware of the government crime of mass murder population control.

Founding father Dr. Benjamin Rush argued before the American Continental Congress:

Unless we put Medical Freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship… to restrict the art of healing to one class of men, and deny equal privilege to others, will be to constitute the Bastille of Medical Science. All such laws are un-American and despotic, and have no place in a Republic… The Constitution of this Republic should make special privilege for Medical Freedom as well as Religious Freedom.

Unfortunately, the right to medical freedom was not added to the Bill of Rights in the Constitution; and now we have the government, medical and pharmaceutical groups working together to limit our health choices. In short, we have a monstrous medical monopoly enforced by the increasingly compromised and corrupt Food and Drug Administration and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), which routinely censors truthful health claims.

Additionally, the U.S. Government promotes and protects the organized crime of the FDA by protecting their pals at Big Pharma with the new pre-emption policy that bans private lawsuits against drug companies in State courts once a drug and its label have been approved by the FDA. This looks like a protection racket for their financiers at big Pharma. This is simply outrageous!

For an understanding of medical organized crime, read the book The Medical Mafia by Ghislaine Lanctôt.

It seems that the protected criminality goes on and on. But the reality is that even criminal organizations always self-destruct. Their satanic greed consumes them. The medical mafia is now in a state of collapse. It is so evil that it cannot sustain life support. Obamacare is the great finality.

The medical mafia commits many overt crimes with the complicity and blind obedience of doctors. A big example is mass vaccination and immunizations. These billions of poison toxins certainly are big factors in population control.

The evils of vaccinations and immunizations have delayed manifestations, except for some immediate deaths and disabilities. The point is that the years between vaccinations and immunizations blurs cause and effect so that the public never sees the deadly harm of these medical mafia inoculations. It is a crime evolving imperceptibly and subclinically.

“Heart disease” is the big, big crime of the medical mafia that not one in 10 million people suspects. If there has ever been worldwide murder incorporated, this is it.

There is such a labyrinth of lies spun around the mystique of heart disease that it has been bound up for ages in “the No. 1 cause of death.”

The phenomenon of heart disease is concealed under sub rosa and subclinical. This means that modern medical science cannot detach cause and effect of heart disease.

The medical mafia has built a huge financial empire out of and on fictions like cholesterol and open heart surgery. The only success they have achieved is in the favor of a multibillion-dollar medical monopoly.

The cause of heart disease goes back to the milling industry and their milling of refined, bleached white flour that was devoid of nutrition.

Harvey Wiley, the first U.S. head of the FDA, outlawed the bleaching of flour. He knew that bleached flour was devoid of nutrition. This was challenged all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court, which ruled that flour could not be bleached or adulterated in any way. But this was never enforced.

Wiley fought Secretary of Agriculture James Wilson and President Theodore Roosevelt over food policy and regulation. Wiley believed that adulterated foods posed a greater harm to Americans than adulterated or misbranded drugs. When Wiley finally quit the FDA out of frustration in 1912, he was replaced by Dr. Elmer Nelson, who claimed: “It is wholly unscientific to state that a well-fed body is more able to resist disease than a poorly fed body. My overall opinion is that there hasn’t been enough experimentation to prove that dietary deficiencies make one susceptible to disease.”

The proliferation of FDA-approved processed and genetically modified foods indicates this philosophy lives on at the FDA. That’s why the United States is suffering from full-belly starvation and an obesity epidemic and an epidemic of disease. It is the covert method of population control.

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Bob Livingston

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  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    LAST UPDATE

    GROWING LIST OF SHERIFFS, ASSOCIATIONS AND POLICE CHIEFS who have VOWED TO UPHOLD and DEFEND the CONSTITUTION AGAINST OBAMA’s UNCONSTITUTIONAL GUN CONTROL measures SAYING ‘NO’ TO OBAMA GUN CONTROL

    According to the CSPOA’s (Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association) there are 18 States Sheriffs Associations and Sheriffs (total 479).

    Four months ago (04/01/13) there were 388 sheriffs. In four months the number
    of the Sheriffs, who vowed to uphold the Constitution increased on 91 sheriffs.
    http://cspoa.org/sheriffs-gun-rights/

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      Sheriff Mike Winters (Jackson County, OR) responds to O’Liar’s executive orders on gun control.

      “My point of view is: We need to take care of Americans first. That’s simple … One thing that I can to promise to the residents of the Jackson County … that the federal government is not going coming to cease one gun out of this county as long as I am a sheriff here … I am CONSTITUTIONAL officer elected by the people of this County to represent them and keep them safe and that’s what I am going to do … People should secure their weapons. And my other answer… my other point is: the United States of America should not be sent the assault weapons to the cartels that are used against American law enforcement. There are men dead today because that brilliant decision by somebody in the Washington D.C., and nobody held accountable. ” – Sheriff Mike Winters

      Question: If congress will pass a bill on the certain rifles, How would the Sheriff’s Office to comply with?

      Sheriff: The Sheriff’s Office is not … going against Constitution, the 2nd Amendment. Not in this County. The Sheriff’s Office will not go against the Constitution … if feds think that they will take the guns out of the law obedient citizens; if the federal agencies think that – that is not case in this County… Sheriff is a voice of the People, and Congress will not act like bunch of the Dictators here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX7su5tMioQ

      • KG

        Alondra – we live in a federal republic. The supreme law of the land is the Constitution. The supreme law enforcement is the Federal Government.

        • Ron

          Man you are just another Kool-Aid drinking obomanite.

        • Ferd Berful

          Supreme Law giver is our Creator!

        • Frank Zappa

          We now have “Federal Judges” activists who in fact are at this very moment redefining our Constitution, and the Criminal N’ Chief is behind the corruption. I have no idea what or where you have been but our rights are under EXTREME ATTACK. ALL OF THEM.

          • NC

            Frank, where does it say in the Constitution that it shall be interpreted only in a manner that is satisfactory to all Conservatives?/ Where did I miss that?? What rights do non-conservatives have? It’s their Constitution also!
            It’s a pretty weak constitution that doesn’t protect ALL citizens!!!!! THERE ARE MORE FEDERAL JUDGES APPOINTED BY REPUBLICANS THAN THOSE “LIBERAL” DEMOCRATS. There ARE MORE JUSTICES APPOINTED BY REPUBLICANS THAN THOSE “LIBERAL” DEMOCRATS.
            IF YOUR PROBLEM IS THAT THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH ULTRA CONSERVATIVE JUDGES AND JUSTICES THEN FOLLOW OUR BELOVED CONTITUTION AND ELECT SOME “APPOINTERS” LIKE THE “OTHER FOLKS” DID!
            btw ALSO YOU MAY WANT TO ASK MR. LIVINGSTON ABOUT THE RISE IN LIFE EXPECTANCY THAT PARALLELS THE INCREASED KNOWLEGE OF MEDICINES AND VACCINES>

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            There goes NutCase with his shouting again. Somehow he thinks shouting makes his inane comments more truthful.
            Quit trying to make it a Democrat/Republican thing, NutCase. Both parties have been taking us down the toilet for a very long time.
            For those who are unfamiliar with what the Constitution really says:
            http://www.cato.org/pubs/constitution/constitution_en.html

            It was predicted by the anti-federalists that Progressives would subvert the Constitution as written, but there were too many NutCases who wouldn’t listen:
            http://mises.org/daily/2335

          • NC

            ABORIGINAL, POLITICS SINCE 1860 HAVE BEEN A DEMOCRAT/REPUBLCAN THING. CHECK THE (D) AND (R)s with no (L) or (I) who have set in the OVAL OFFICE.
            You can sit in your mother’s basement, read your Mises and hope for a different world but REALITY IT AIN’T!
            Striving for a better world Is good! Jousting with wind mills, not so good!
            For good or bad, the battle is between the Ds and the Rs with fiscal policies that have rejected Von Mises principles since 1860. Greed in the market place keeps pure “free trade utopia” from working!
            My advice is to sell your MISES collection and put the money in the stock market WHEN THERE IS A DEMOCRAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE! SEE “BULL, BEARS, DONKEYS AND ELEPHANTS” FOR THE GROWTH OF SUCH INVESTMENTS UNDER DEMOCRATS AS OPPOSED TO REPUBLICANS SINCE 1928!!!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            NutCase,
            The day I would take either financial advice or political advice from you would be a cold day in hell indeed.

          • Bill

            Nc,
            And be sure to take all of the drugs your doctor tells you too. Eat lots of soy products and be sure to take your statin drugs

          • NC

            BILL, I have had 4 back operations, triple by pass surgery, two hernia operation, two cataract operations and a knee replacement all with the help of modern medicine, Excuse me if I don’t share your disdain for modern medicine!
            PS: I’m a diabetic too! I’m 78 and played 18 holes of golf on Friday right after I took my medicines which included a statin! Damn, I forgot my soy burgers! I’ve tried them!
            How is your health??? Did I mention that I have “high blood pressure” EXCEPT WHEN I TAKE MY MEDICINE???

          • Bill

            Nc,
            I don’t care what you do for your health. You can go to a witch doctor for all I care. I do not want to be forced to pay for your health care and I do not want anyone telling me what I can or cannot do with my health and forcing me to buy into a system that I do not want.
            Go have a drink and quit shouting.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            The rise in life expectancy is due primarily to cleaner living conditions and access to a wide variety of healthy foods, thanks primarily to the few markets that are still relatively Free — no thanks to creepy Liberal Progressives who, even though that can’t live their own lives without parasitizing other people, think they know best for other people.

          • KG

            Ive heard that the one thing that has extended life for people in the western world more than anything else was daily trash pick-up. Something that Governments spend lots of time and money to do for it’s citizens.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Something the Private Sector could do more efficiently, less costly, more politely, and only the actual users would have to pay.

          • chocopot

            I have to pay for my own.

          • Frank Zappa

            Hey McFly judges are to interpret the law NOT change it. There is no liberal or conservative party, simple logic will do, and in fact MOST / ALL of the founders were conservative but you missed that class.
            So from your statement you approve of the “Patriot Act” Obama Care, Agenda 21, the NDAA and so forth RIGHT!!! So before you start your little tap dance I suggest that you FIRST do some homework and compare apples to apples assuming that you can. Oh and it is not just my rights they are every ones rights. So lets look at the “Obonzo Care” for a minute. Just for starters Obonzo wants me to pay for abortions, Ooop’s Freedom of religion comes into play here, the last thing I want to do is kill OR pay for killing of children. Your 4th Amendment, is under attack, the Second Amendment is under attack in case you have been living under a rock somewhere. So what is it that YOU have failed to understand??? Please spare me the “Separation of Church and State” line of crap YOU liberals are so fond of using. So I suggest that you keep getting your unemployment checks, and food stamps on a regular basis because it looks to me as though you are somewhat of a FUNCTIONAL ILLETERATE (See the Word “Appointers” should have been Appointees) I rest my case. So How’s the hope and change Wurkin Fur Ya? My suggestion for you is kill a liberal and make the World a safer Place, Oh that’s right liberals can’t own Guns it’s against their religion in that they are not responsible enough to own anything that is dangerous.

        • Timothy Sullivan

          Sorry KG but the way things have been going, the “supreme law enforcement” has NOT enforced the supreme law of the land!

        • Charlie

          KG ,,, what does the word “”Land”” mean as used in The Constitution ? Now! remember The Constitution is a “”Commercial Document””…. Hint,,,hint ,,, ALL COMMERCE COMES FROM THE DIRT,,, which is land…
          The Constitution writers knew some “”Stuff”” about words…. They could write a union contract that even you could not understand … Ha ha ha ha …….. Go have another bowl of GMOs………………………………

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          You know nothing of the intent of the Constitution, KGB. Hint — it wasn’t created to support Communists:
          http://www.cato.org/pubs/constitution/constitution_en.html

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      You MUST to watch this:
      El Paso County Sheriff Terry Maketa speaks at an
      anti-gun law rally with a coalition of other county sheriffs from Colorado.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCXx5Eb4FDc

      May God BLESS all Sheriffs who uphold the USA Constitution.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    The Kenyan FRAUD is a WAR CRIMINAL!!! – says Clare Daly, a member of Ireland’s Parliament:

    “[T]he biggest irony of all, the protestations of Obama himself in his speech to children in Northern Ireland about peace, when he said, “Those who choose a path of peace, I promise you the United States of America will support you every step of the way. We will be the wind at your back.” Now I ask you, is this person going for the hypocrite of the century award? Because we have to call things by their right names. And thereality is, by any serious examination, THIS MAN IS A WAR CRIMINAL.

    “He has just announced his decision to SUPPLY ARMS TO THE SYRIAN OPPOSITION, INCLUDING THE JIHADISTS fueling the destabilization of that region and continuing to undermine secularism and knock back conditions for women. This is the man who is in essence, stalling the Geneva peace talks by trying to broker enhanced leverage FOR the Syrian OPPOSITION BY GIVING THEM ARMS. And to hell with the thousands more who lose their lives, or the tens of thousands more who are being displaced as this war goes on.

    “This is the man who has facilitated a TWO HUNDRED PERCENT INCREASE in
    the use of drones, which have killed thousands of people including hundreds of
    children.

    “What steps are you going to take to insure that no weapons for Syria are going to go through Shannon in breach of our international laws and neutrality? What steps are you going to take to showcase this country, not as a lap dog of US imperialism, but as AN INDEPENDENT NATION WITH AN INDEPENDENT FOREIGN POLICY, which takes a lead in international diplomacy, to outlaw the use of drones, the favorite method of extermination of your friend Mr. Obama?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SX58vqcEU0

    This was said 2+ month ago. It still TRUE today.

    P.S. Transcript of the Clare Daly’s speech in the Ireland’s Parliament:
    http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articles/q22013/video-transcript-of-irish-parliament-calling-obama-war-criminal/

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      Krauthammer: British Parliament Vote Against Syria Strike “A Complete
      Humiliation for the Obama Administration” http://townhall.com/video/krauthammer-british-parliament-vote-against-syria-strike-a-complete-humiliation-for-the-obama-administration-n1687651

      • nc

        Alondro, you quote Krautface in a judgment of OBama?? Obama has done nothing that pleased Krautface and will DO NOTHING that pleases Krautface! What ever he does Krautface will condemn! What ever occurs Krautface will see as a “humiliation” of Obama. Could you find a source that is a little more objective??? Krautface WANTING Obama to be humiliated IS A LOT DIFFERENT FROM OBAMA BEING HUMILIATED.
        The British have many times in the past disagreed with an American President of both parties! They are no more obligated to agree with us than we are obligated to agree with them.
        Ike saved their butts in WWII but they later hated him when he let them down during the Suez crisis. I was in England after the crisis and I couldn’t find anyone with a kind word for Ike!

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          You are a despicable person, NutCase.

        • Vigilant

          Charles Krauthammer’s articulate and logically compelling comments are by a damn sight better assessments than the fawning pap that comes out of media whores like MSNBC.

          Leftist idiots like you can’t stand geniuses like Thomas Sowell and Ben Carson because they speak truth.

          • JeffH

            If progressive moron logic were used I’d have to assume that nc hated all people that are crippled and live a good portion of their life in a wheelchair like Krauthammer does.
            Afterall, most all of us that have distain for Obama’s ideology to “fundamentally change America” and related un-American activities are accused by the liberal/progressives as being racists and haters because Obama is black.(mixed)

          • nc

            Vigilant, how much difference is there between what those geniuses(?) Sowell and Carson say and what those celebrated worldwide geniuses (???) Bachmann, Palin and Beck say??? I rest my case!
            Where do you find Krautface? Faux noise! No whores there???? Really???
            Adult independents are watching your answers!! Beware of ignorant positions!!!

          • Vigilant

            You have no case to rest, Saul.

            That was indeed a pitifully inept attempt to (1) divert the subject away from its roots and (2) invite a comparison that was never made or intended.

            You’ll have to submit some credible source to us that indicates that anyone has considered Bachmann, Palin and Beck to be geniuses. I have certainly never said it, so your argument falls flat. Your straw man tactic also fails miserably.

            Adult independents (of which you certainly are NOT one) watch Fox News in greater numbers than other networks. Hell, even more Democrats watch Fox than they do MSNBC.

            Independent media watch organizations have consistently found Fox to be more fair and balanced than any other network. Google it.

            The only ignorant position I see here is assumed by you. Care to bend over a little more?

        • Don 2

          nc engaging in Damage Control.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            He’s doing more damage, than damage control.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Isn’t this one of the Liberal Progressives who calls others “haters”? How typical.

          • nc

            ABORIGINAL. I DON’T HATE KRAUTFACE! I PITY Him like I pity you for having no more scope of concepts than to think your way is the only way!!! Especially with the success in this country of what you think is so evil and bad for society!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            NutCase,
            The success of this country (what little there is these days) is due to Free Markets, not Big Government.
            But thanks to NutCase Liberal Progressives, like yourself, we are falling fast.
            Now, even Chile and Denmark have a Freer Marketplaces than the US:
            http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

        • Frank Zappa

          Please do me a favor and look up the words “Hand Job” place your picture next to the 2 words, and repeat the process until you understand what you are. Perhaps a new career as a “Condom Commercial.” Trojan Man, Trojan Man…Ya that commercial.

    • KG

      Alondra, how old are you? Do you remember something called ‘The Cold War’? Do you remember President Reagan, Jeane Kirkpatrick and the national security council? The Muslim Brotherhood were Anti-communist. So America did what Mrs Kirkpatrick advocated – It doesn’t matter what they do or say, as long as they are anti-communist we will support them. The MB is the only group that has CIA operators within its ranks. Think about that.

      • Vis Fac

        KGB Not only do I remember that era I was involved while you slept in the union toilet in the basement. You are wrong because you (like the typical liberal) OMITTED key language regarding “the potential threat to the US” BOZOS like you are what’s wrong in the US we need fewer of you who ‘Think” you know rather than more who actually do know.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est

        Semper-Fi

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          The problem is that nobody knows what’s best for anybody else. That’s why it doesn’t matter if Liberal Progressives or Neoconservative Progressives are running the country. What we need to do is shrink Government to at least 1/3 its current size, and get back to the people, who know best what they need, running their own lives.
          For Individual Liberty, Personal Responsibility, Free Markets, and Limited Government, there really is only one choice:
          http://www.lp.org/

    • Ferd Berful

      Didn’t he also want to give arms to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt?Worth billions!

      • Vis Fac

        He’s still doing that It’s called “Foreign Aid” most of which is military in nature.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est

        Semper-Fi

      • FreedomFighter

        One of the most frightening aspects of Obama’s foreign policy is this:Every organization/place Obama sends “aide” to in the middle east, be it arms for rebels, or humanitarian aide…those he aides are killing thousands upon thousands of CHRISTIANS – EVERY SINGLE PLACE.
        No mass media outlets are covering the mass murder of these innocent people, doom to die by the hands of fanatical Islamo-Nazis just for being Christians.
        Nothing chills my soul more than the above aspects of the Obama foreign policy’s and war mongering.
        Laus DeoSemper FI

    • Timothy Sullivan

      Obama is not a “wind at your back” Instead he is the wind coming from the “backside!”

      • Bill

        Good Analogy, Tim
        Very similar to the comments coming from Kg and Ronr

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Now here is a Shocking Revealing, about which many of us had suspicion:
    Mastermind Behind Benghazi are the Kenyan Kriminal’s friends, whom he funded and still fund – MBH. http://www.westernjournalism.com/mastermind-behind-benghazi-attack-trained-u-s/

    Anybody still have doubt about WHO is barry HUSSEIN is and WHO IS HE WORKING FOR?

    It is increasingly clear what happened in Egypt, starting with the ‘Arab Spring’, and the ousting of Mubarak. It’s clear that the Kenyan Kriminal is covered in it. His support of the muslim brotherhood, is clear also, his families charitable organizations are also very suspicious, the muslim brotherhood has positions in our Government. WHEN America will wake up?

    EGYPTIAN OFFICIAL TAHANI AL-GEBALI IS SECOND SOURCE TO CLAIM TO HAVE “DOCUMENTS & PROOF” THAT COULD SEND OBAMA TO PRISON
    http://iamnotashamedofthegospelofchrist.com/2013/08/22/egyptian-official-tahani-al-gebali-is-second-source-to-claim-to-have-documents-proof-that-could-send-obama-to-prison/

    • KG

      Alondra – the website westernjournalism.com is a known Right-wing ‘conservative’ propaganda outlet. It’s was founded by the same people who created NewsMax and Worldnetdaily, two more ‘conservative’ Right-wing propaganda outlets. Actually its a right-wing echo chamber to help scared old people to feel better about themselves at the cost of truth.

      • Frank Zappa

        So are we to assume that the only answer is the liberal lie? That is its all about “The Party”? Union Solidarity? What a crock.

        • Vis Fac

          Facts to a liberal are those that are pulled out of thin air to swathe their ineptness on all things rational.
          Liberal one dimensional idiot-ology dictates they make things up as they go so they can blame others for their failures. Nothing is ever their or their party’s fault So whenever they have trouble defending and/or nothing to
          substantiate their positions they simply fall back on the Federal Board for Blaming Bush Reagan or whomever then revert to using pejoratives. Then all their liberal inadequacies are soon to be forgotten

          Libertas inaestimabilis res est

          Semper-Fi

          • Bill

            Good comment, Force

      • Ron r

        Alondy likes to send people to sites that are right of the KKK. They think likethis is a third rate country and 2% of the wackos can simply change the government untill they get one that fits their distorted image of what this great nation should. In their minds they think they are patriots, in reality they are unamerican domestic terriost, and keyboard activist who have never marched or put their asses on the line for anything they say they believe in. Yet blame their ills on all who disagree with them. They should be shot with sh&&.

        • Beverly Levitt

          You are a misinformed moron.

          • Ron r

            I assume that makes you an out of touch idiot!

          • KG

            More high comedy!

          • Don 2

            Beverly,
            Pay no attention to Obama’s “Goon Squad.”

          • Vis Fac

            That was superfluous this is a fact everyone knows. You can tell a moron, but you can’t tell him much he’ll understand!

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est

            Semper-Fi

          • Beverly Levitt

            Non the less, I felt the need to point out to him the fact :) I find this buzzing around our heads as irritating as a mosquito at a camp out. The solution, squish the mosquito.

          • Beverly Levitt

            Non the less, I felt the need to point out to him the fact :) I find this buzzing around our heads as irritating as a mosquito at a camp out. The solution, squish the mosquito.

          • Ron r

            And you are an in the bubble idiot.

        • Bill

          Ronr,
          Whoa!!, Such hatred and bigotry.

          • Ron r

            Give it a rest Bill. Everyone who disagrees with the reich is not a bigot.

          • Don 2

            But everyone who disagrees with Obama is a bigot, and a racist to boot. Just ask Chris Mathews, or da Justice Brudders Al & Jessie, or pretty much anyone in the MSM or the Democrat/Communist Party.

          • Ron r

            Yes we are we hate reich wing wackos , idiots, and birthers. Including Limbaugh, and Hannity. Amazing that minorities are the racist now and yet they don’t run jack in this country.

          • Don 2

            Well, there you go again Ron r, exposing who you really are.

            Since minorities don’t run anything Ron r, I guess a black president, a black A.G., all these black mayors and chiefs of police and all, are just figments of my imagination.

            And yes Ron r, da Justice Brudders Al & Jessie, Obama, and Holder are as racist as they come.

            Perhaps your real problem Ron r, is that you took the wrong turns at the forks-in-the-road in your life, and screwed up your own life, but find it easier to blame someone else for your own failures. Yeah that’s it, it’s all Rush’s fault, no wait, it’s Hannity’s fault, no, no wait, it’s that birther over there…..yeah, that’s it! It sure couldn’t be me who screwed up my life.

          • Ron r

            I have retired from both the U.S.Army and the USPS. I like how I screwed up my life. What’s your story??

          • Don 2

            Being retired has nothing to do with whether or not you are screwed up, or screwed up your life, it only means that you are retired.

          • Ron r

            Your opinion , my fact.

          • Bill

            Ronr, When you are referring to the reich, you are referring Obama and his buddies, right?

          • Ron r

            No Bill I’m not.

          • WTS/JAY

            Just everyone who disagrees with left-wing degenerates, right, Ronny?

          • Ron r

            No Jay Jay.

          • TheOriginalDaveH
          • Ron r

            Yes you are

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Polly want a cracker? Baaaraaack!

          • Ron r

            You’re funny. Romney and the reich want to be president? Noooooooooooo

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Ron says — “in reality they are unamerican domestic terriost, and keyboard activist who have never marched or put their asses on the line for anything they say they believe in”.
          Isn’t that sentence contradictory?
          Maybe, Ron, they don’t have time to march because they’re frantically working trying to still have decent lives even while carrying parasitic Liberal Progressives on their backs.

      • Vis Fac

        And we all know “right wing news is bogus right? I QUESTION EVERYTHING you do not I watch FOX MSNBC MSM and find FOX to be more objective (granting both ides to report) and reports on twice as many story’s and articles as the one dimensional MSNBC. FOX also openly reports on what what BSDNC reports as well. Strangely BSDNC continually OMITS items they feel detrimental to their agenda. Reporting partial truth is nothing but a lie. Just as you and your fellow union thugs do.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est

        Semper-Fi

      • Bill

        Kg,
        You want the truth, you can’t handle the truth

    • Frank Zappa

      Alondra: Welcome back;
      There is a growing effort to Impeach the Criminal N Chief. There is an organization that hangs around freeway overpasses with declarations to Impeach Obonzo. I believe that it is Overpass..(Something not sure).org this is hosted by Jim Neighbors and is gaining National favor and recognition. I don’t know if this will help but I will see if I can find out more if interested.

    • Beverly Levitt

      I am patiently waiting to see some proof of this claim. It would seem to me that it would have already been brought forward if it were so. I believe it is a very distinct possibility, but before it is spread, documentation and proof are essential. Otherwise those who spread it look like conspiracy nuts. Having seen much misinformation in the past, I am very cautious without hard core proof. If there is any, it should be sent to another country such as the UK or other that will uphold the truths and spread from there. If it comes direct to our government it will be pushed under the carpet like everything else has been. Our current politicians are corrupt to the core, with few exceptions. They have aided and abetted in this farce from the beginning, whether from fear of reprisal or greed matters not to me. What matters is the oath each took to protect the Constitution they instead help destroy.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Do you really think the UK will uphold the truths?
        Great Britain has been at the forefront of suppressive Mercantilist Big Government since the middle of the 2nd millennium.
        http://mises.org/books/conceived1.pdf
        http://mises.org/books/conceived2.pdf
        http://mises.org/books/conceived3.pdf
        http://mises.org/books/conceived4.pdf

        • Beverly Levitt

          I am well aware of the issues with the UK DaveH. But in this case I think they would relish in revealing any dirt on Obama. There is no love loss and they have literally thumbed their noses at our King.

          • Don 2

            It is a fact Beverly, you get much more truth and exposure about U.S. government shenanigans in the U.K. papers than you ever would in the U.S. MSM.

          • Beverly Levitt

            I totally agree Don 2

        • Beverly Levitt

          I am well aware of the issues with the UK DaveH. But in this case I think they would relish in revealing any dirt on Obama. There is no love loss and they have literally thumbed their noses at our King.

        • Beverly Levitt

          Especially any that might remove his arrogant arse from the position he holds.

      • Bill

        Beverly,
        Your best source of misinformation is the mainstream media

        • Beverly Levitt

          Bill …….I am well aware of this as have spent 40 plus years studying the corruption and desecration, piece by piece of our Constitution and our Republic. What has mainstream media have to do with my comment?

        • Beverly Levitt

          Bill …….I am well aware of this as have spent 40 plus years studying the corruption and desecration, piece by piece of our Constitution and our Republic. What has mainstream media have to do with my comment?

  • KG

    Mr Livingston, you have said before that you do not believe in ‘germs’ and that sickness is not caused by ‘infection’ but by what we eat and drink. What this really does is make Health a religion. And like all false religions there is a ‘works’ component. You wish to ‘shew thyself worthy’ by doing certain things or eating certain things. The truth is nobody really knows what kind of medical emergency they may have. Jim Fixx the guy who started the ‘jogging’ craze in America, though he developed into a athlete, died of a heart attack at 52. Or how about John Ritter , another person who seemed perfectly healthy and dropped dead.

    Proverbs 27:1
    King James Version (KJV)
    27 Boast not thyself of to morrow; for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth.

    Anybody who is alive should realize how incredibly lucky they are and try to enjoy life. That’s why I’m going to the Labor Day parade and wear my Union shirt and sing ‘Solidarity’ with my Brothers and Sisters.

    • Frank Zappa

      For one you quote “Proverbs” and in doing so you quoted it correctly, however, in the event that you are NOT in agreement with the entire Word of God then you in fact are the biggest fool of all.
      You may enjoy a short season here on this earth but eternity is another story and depending that you settle your fate before death then you are eternally LOST.
      There will be no amount of sarcasm that will save you at this point.

      • KG

        Matthew 3:7-10
        King James Version (KJV)
        7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
        8 Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
        9 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.
        10 And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

        • Frank Zappa

          And your point IS?

          • Ferd Berful

            Thought Frank Zappa was dead?

          • Frank Zappa

            It depends who you ask…..

          • Bob666

            Elvis did not die-He just went back home.

          • Frank Zappa

            Well KG the only thing that you need to know is that I am NOT like you, and it goes without saying or it should that it takes a F’N Moron to assume that I smoke ANYTHING. Unlike you I face life head on without drugs of any sort. The picture of you looks like Carl Marx, your hero, and your “Labor Day” Commie Holiday, the Libturd that you have come out of the closet to be and as per the “Usual” and make an A$$ out of yourself. The Bible you quoted from earlier has apparently done you no good, in that you failed the test of getting High just for the sake of getting High. So KG are you a “Peter Puffer” or did you get that hair on your face by sucking on something else? Just curious.

          • KG

            Mark 4:11-13
            King James Version (KJV)
            11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
            12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

          • Charlie

            KG ,,, who are those people that will not be saved???

          • Vis Fac

            His point is that he picks and choses scripture to suit his agenda just as all hypocrites do.

            Libertas inaestimabilis res est

            Semper-Fi

          • NC

            FORCE ,IS THAT SORT OF LIKE HOW CONSERVATIVES FIND THEIR “FACTS”??
            FACT: A CONSERVATIVE JUST WROTE THAT IT IS A FACT THAT SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT IS WHAT GAVE CLINTON A SURPLUS AND WE SHOULD DO IT AGAIN !
            FACT: ANOTHER CONSERVATIVE SAID IT’S A FACT CLINTON’S CLAIM OF A SURPLUS IS A LIE?
            REALLY??SO MUCH FOR WHEN A CONSERVATIVE GIVES YOU A “FACT!!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Let’s see, who should we believe — A zealotous NutCase or a professional economist?
            http://mises.org/daily/542

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          A dishonest coercive Unionist pretending to be religious. What a joke you are, KGB.

        • Bill

          Kg,
          So now we have a communist quoting the bible. You must be so conflicted.
          Are you going to join your buddies in Detroit in your march for solidarity?

      • Ferd Berful

        Repentance is the Key and doing the will of the Heavenly Father!

    • peter

      Those who are alive should indeed realize how incredibly lucky they are, but being healthy as well does help. At my age I awake daily in amazement that I am still around, aches and pains of little concern. I do not fear death as it is inevitable and as you say:- try to enjoy life. In so doing it is important that you attempt to assist to help those less fortunate to enjoy theirs too.

      • Vis Fac

        The more important of your statement would be to attempt to assist those less fortunate to do for themselves. Give a man a fish and he eats for a day teach the same man to fish and he eats every day.

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est

        Semper-Fi

        • nc

          Force, what good is the ability to fish if big business poisons all the water and air? Is there a connection??

          • Bill

            Nc,
            You remind me of Debbie Downer from Saturday Night Live

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            That is SHOW.
            But in the real life that would be nancy pelosi and Debbie Wasserman Schultz

          • Barakolips

            No connection between your brain and what comes out of your mouth.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Teach a man to fish and he sits around in a boat all day drinking beer.

          • Bill

            At least that is a good stress relieving therapy

        • Bill

          Good quote, Force
          I try to practice that one at all times

      • Bill

        Hi Peter,
        Add some systemic enzymes to your routine and those aches and pains will go away

    • Ferd Berful

      Didn’t Solomon also say somewhere in Ecclesiastes “Vanity of Vanities all is Vanity”?

      • Frank Zappa

        Yes

      • Charlie

        KG ,,, don’t know ,,, Ecclesiastes is after Proverbs and before Song of Solomon ,,, that’s Chapter 1 , verse 2 ….

    • Don 2

      I recall that they were wearing the “Goon Squad” shirts in Madison, Wisconsin as they trashed the capital and beat up on anyone who didn’t agree with them.

      • Vis Fac

        KGB’s Tee Shirt read — Союз Mафии бандитов и воров на параде

        Roughly translated Union mafia thugs and thieves on parade

        Libertas inaestimabilis res est

        Semper-Fi

    • Charlie

      KG ,,, Enjoy the parade wearing your “Commie” union shirt… After the Parade , have a bowl of union GMO cereal … Then report back on how it’s possible to serve 2 gods,,, the union contract and The KJV…………

      • Vigilant

        I strongly disagree with KG on most issues, but at least he deserves credit for admitting he’s a communist.

        On the other hand, Charlie, aka Elmer Gantry, is a hate-spewing, insulting and boastful example of what passes for a “Christian” in his own midget-size IQ.

        Understand I have no beef whatsoever with Christianity; on the contrary, I have a high respect for it. My disdain is for those who, like Charlie, hide behind the Bible like Obama hides behind the Constitution when he finds it convenient to do so.

        P.S. Hey, Chuckles, tell us what connection exists between unions and GMO food.

        • Charlie

          Chief ,,,. you are in a psychological condition known as “Cognitive Dissonance”” AND Personality Clash ,,, which blocks some info to you… For your general info most “”Corporations” have some “”Union”” working with them ..
          Try harmonizing Scriptures , it may help your “psycho” problems………………………………

          • Vigilant

            ROFLMAO! Chuckles now fancies himself an armchair shrink.

            “For your general info most “”Corporations” [sic] have some “”Union”” [sic] working with them.” DUH! No kidding?

            I repeat, “tell us what connection exists between unions and GMO food.”

          • Charlie

            Chief ,,, what’ s that ? the name of a new dog food ???

          • Vigilant

            You’re not very cyberliterate are you? It stands for “rolling on floor laughing my ass off.”

            Next question.

          • KG

            This should be a sit-com! High Comedy!

          • Charlie

            Chief ,,, when you and KG finish educating Me ,,, what diploma do I get???

          • Vigilant

            With profoundest regrets I inform you that, in the opinion of the board, your mental capacity obviates the possibility of you ever being awarded a diploma.

            We recommend you focus your efforts on less demanding skills, such as being a spokesman for the Democrats, where your deficiencies in intelligence may serve you well.

          • Charlie

            Chief ,,, figure out who makes FRNs and you will have the “Tie in ” of Unions and Corporations …. Thanks , but , We did not expect a diploma from “Dipolas” ……………

          • Vigilant

            A little news flash for you, sonny: Unions, with the possible exception of General Motors, do NOT make management decisions relating to the product line composition or the technology in producing genetically modified organisms.

            That wasn’t even a nice try. You’ll have to do better than that.

        • KG

          Thank’s Bro, the felling is mutual!

    • Bill

      And while you are at it, Kg, make sure you load up on fast food and drink lots soda.

      • Barakolips

        Don’t forget to drop by Chic-a-fil!

    • Don 2

      So KG, which of your Brothers and Sisters did you smoke doobie with at the parade…..your former 40,000 Brothers and Sisters in the Longshore Union, or your current whining against the Obamacare they supported, Brothers and Sisters in the AFL-CIO?

  • FreedomFighter

    “The proliferation of FDA-approved processed and genetically modified foods indicates this philosophy lives on at the FDA. That’s why the United States is suffering from full-belly starvation and an obesity epidemic and an epidemic of disease. It is the covert method of population control.”
    Finally the eugenics program of the evil elite becomes mainstream news. Now the “slow kill” mass murder is public knowledge, the poisoning of the world thru GMO, public water additive’s, plastics, environmental pollution, massive exposure to radiation from Fukashima evident and declared to the citizens, so what are we going to do?
    So now you know, its time we took action isn’t it?
    Laus DeoSemper FI

    • Karolyn

      Have you heard Monsanto is on the run? Stock prices down. They are getting hammered by the public all over the world, as well as by many foreign governments. But, of course, not by the US government!

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Of which Obama is the head.

  • 4lifeandfreedom

    Americans have been duped in more than one way! Dumbed- down ” subjects” are easier to control.

    • Charlie

      Thanks for telling us “part” of the problems ,,,but,,, what part of the “solutions” are you ???

      • Don 2

        You want solutions? Eliminate public employee teacher unions, for one.

        • Charlie

          Well ,,, we’ll have to get that approved by KG………..

          • Don 2

            Not today though, I hear he is busy tossing union cards from atop the KGB parade float.

        • NC

          DON 2> PI$$ED OFF WOMEN , “PUBLIC EMPLOYEE TEACHERS UNIONS” FAMILIES AND FRIENDS PLUS FAMILIES AND FRIENDS OF IMMIGRANTS MAY GIVE YOU A “SOLUTION” IN 2016 THAT YOU WILL NEVER FORGET OR OVERCOME!!!!!!! BEWARE OF THE “IGNORANT POSTITIONS” THAT BEAT YOU IN 2012 OR SO SAYS JINDAL!!
          I HAVE NO IDEA WHY I WARN YOU OF YOUR MISTAKES! JUST A GOOD GUY I GUESS! ALLAH BE PRAISED!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You are a mistake, NutCase. Why didn’t you warn us about yourself?

          • Bob666

            :>

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Dave, did you notice that boob666 started to troll you?

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            So far, Alondra, Bob666 has been civil to me. So I will be civil back.

          • Don 2

            NC,

            I have no idea what you are talking about.

            Unions/immigrants/Democrats families and friends all, have already given us a solution, that we will never forget, and probably will never overcome. It’s called “Hope & Change” and it sucks.

            Those so-called ignorant positions seemed to work rather well for Scott Walker, but thanks for the warning anyway.

            Are you yelling at me?

          • Frank Zappa

            Why Yes He Is. Me Thinks he is the usual Libturd Troll that wants some sort of recognition. Seems to me has more thumbs down than UP.

  • TIME

    My Dear People,
    To Garner greater insight on this topic, please look up the following You tube video:
    { Dr Rima Laibow Exposes Genocidal Plot.}
    If this fails to open your eyes, then your dead between the ears and nothing will ever aid you on this quest.
    Peace and Love, May the Holy Sprit light your Soul on Fire.

    • Charlie

      Check out Acts 2:38 ,, 1 Peter 3:21 ,, Galatians 3:26, 27,,, to find out how to “get” that Holy Spirit in your body and Soul… Get knowledge and understanding of The Holy Bible by Harmonizing Scriptures………………….

    • TheOriginalDaveH
  • Karolyn

    Down with the FDA! And I might add, the USDA too! They are like the Nazi Gestapo, trampling peoples’ rights. Dr. Elmer Nelson was a real winner, huh? The human body is designed to heal itself given the right conditions. Well, they had their chance to kill me, and I didn’t bite. If I had allowed treatment of my hepatitis C by chemical means 12 years ago, I have no doubt that I would be sick to this day, if not dead. As it is, my health is great!

    • dogbert69

      Karolyn, you should post your cure so that other may live.

  • Karolyn

    Gee – It would be nice to have a discussion about the topic at hand and not be bombarded with headlines about how bad Obama is AGAIN!

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      He is bad. Face it.

      • Karolyn

        He is not the be-all and end-all. It is possible to have a discussion without it coming around to him. He does not control everything.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          We have to start someplace. Why not the tip of the iceberg?

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Karolyn,

      Where was Obama mentioned in this column?

      Best wishes,
      BOb

      • Karolyn

        Hi Bob – It wasn’t the column, it was Alondra’s posts about him.

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          Yeah. That wasn’t the Kenyan Kriminal’s fault. That was Bush’s fault.

  • Chester

    Karolyn, perhaps you should do some research on hepatitis C. Seems that it can lie nearly dormant for years, and yes, even decades, before it goes active, but once it does go active, things can go bad in a hurry. I doubt that you are “cured”. Far more likely you are in a dormant phase.

    • Bill

      Chester,
      And the worse thing you can do for Hep c is take the traditional Interferon treatment. That will put you through hell and only reduce your viral load temporarily. After you stop the treatment, it will come roaring back.

      • dogbert69

        My friend was on interferon for Hep c and it worked for a while and then he developed blood cancer and died a long slow death under chemotherapy that took 2 years to kill him. Horrible way to die.

    • Karolyn

      No – I am not cured, and I have done much research on the subject. That’s all I did when diagnosed in 2001. I did not even know I had it then; and have probably had it for 40 years. Unless there is severe liver damage and cirrhosis, most people with hcv will die from something else. HCV does not necessarily “go active.” Also, only one genotype responds well to treatment; and, I believe there are 3 genotypes. After hearing horror stories from people who had undergone treatment, who will have side effects for the rest of their lives, I decided I did not want to ruin mine.

      • SunEast 孫東

        Karolyn… get colloidal silver (silver ionic)
        If interested I’ll get you the source.

  • wandamurline

    Wait until they disarm us….statistics….look it up…. Turkey 1.5 million murdered; Soviet Union 10 million; China 100 million; and I could go on and on…Zimbaway and other autrosities around the globe because the citizenry had no way to protect themselves. The same would be true if we allow this administration to take our guns….it ain’t a gonna happen without a fight.

  • sharon deloy

    This started off with an article about big government and pharaceutical companies trying to kill us, and ended up with god saving us?
    I personally believe in dis-ease. You are what you eat. And food does not take good anymore. Not like it used to.

    As for gun control, No. I think some cops should have their guns taken away from them. Does the police department, sheriffs department, dea, fbi, tsa, nsa, or even our congress get tested for drugs and steriod use? Give a 6’4″ sheriff who is on steroids a gun and you have a sheriff who will arrest a 78 year old woman in her own house who says to him “What’s going on?”

  • Doc No

    Arkham… If you are here this is for you, my friend SunEast asked me to post this: Tibet and China. How US gov. are using CIA to kill:

    The Dalai Lama admitted he was on the payroll of the CIA in the 1950s. [1] I suspect he still may be. Contrary to the image of the Dalai Lama, many allege that he ran a dictatorial, feudal style regime during the ‘independence’ period from 1913-1951, torturing and killing dissenters, crushing resistance and permitting other despicable brutalities.

    The Chinese eventually reconquered and annexed Tibet in 1951. The Dalai Lama fled to India where he established the exiled government with the financial help of the CIA. The CIA supported the Tibetan radicals to ‘isolate Communism’ training them on American soil and parachuting them into Tibet. This and similar activities came under the codename. “Operation Saint Circus.”

    The Dalai Lama also received direct CIA funding. “Funding” of course means bribes. Overt CIA support ended in 1974, after negative publicity. The Dalai Lama then created the Central Tibetan Administration (CTA), which raises large sums, especially now since he became a house-hold name. The US State Dept. donates and I suspect so does the CIA.

    In 1989, the Dalai Lama received a Nobel Peace Prize. The media continues to give him credibility. He was received by many nations in the West and was awarded with ‘honorary medals’, such as the National Endowment for Democracy ‘Honour’. [8]

    When I read this, my opinion about the Dalai Lama was confirmed. By now I knew that the NED took part in ‘democratic’ overthrows of countries such as Georgia and Ukraine through so called ‘colour revolutions’ [9] Established in 1984, the NED officially labels itself as a foundation “promoting democracy throughout the world.” The NED’s first president, Allen Weinstein, had this to say about the NED: ‘A lot of what we do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA.’

    This statement reveals the psychology behind foundation ideology and how the CIA has shifted its operational modus operandi. Their aim was to infiltrate into a destined country via soft power means. Some people have made the case that the CIA operations went from ‘public’ hands (the overt part) into ‘private’ hands (the covert part, using the foundation.)

    Michael Barker, who studied the NED and its connections to the Dalai Lama rightfully called it ‘Democratic imperialism”. It explains why Russia passed a law labeling ‘NGOs’

    • Vigilant

      Fine; now tell us what the Hell that all has to do with the PLD article.

      • Charlie

        Chief ,,, once again you are exposing your ignorance of International “”Black Ops”” ,,, did you ever have a “Top Secret” clearance while in the USAF ? ,,,,BUT,,, We will not say much because it’s top secret ,,, except ,,, look in The Constitution and check out what branch of The U S Military has a on going “Budget” for “Any” of it’s operations ,,, that’s the guys that do most “”Black Ops”” ,,,they have The most powerful military “Force” on planet earth and right now they are moving toward Syria … Go feed the dogs and do a little “Top Secret” research …

        • Vigilant

          Now that you’ve vented your irrelevant “info,” perhaps you’d like to answer the question, “Tell us what the Hell that all has to do with the PLD article.”

          • Charlie

            Chief ,,, can’t tell you ,,, it’s for need to know ONLY,,, top secret…. Ha ha ha ha ha… Ask KG ,,, it could be in a NGO union contract……………………………

      • Doc No

        I apologize Vigilant, for having gotten off the subject. I was trying to reach another blogger from another PLD subject on Tibet.

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Great article, Bob.

    • NC

      ABORIGINAL, TURN AROUND AND STAND REAL STILL WHILE UNCLE BOB WINDS YOU UP FOR YOUR NEXT POST!!
      PUPPET!!

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        Ahh yes, the “compassionate” class speaks. I can’t wait until people like NutCase get to make my every personal choice.

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          He can’t speak. JUST SCREAMING DISJOINTED NONSENSE.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        No sources or facts, just mindless drivil. SSDD, eh no cajones? Here is an article talking about the Fascista State.
        http://www.finance.townhall.com/columnists/publications/2013/09/01/the-rise-os-the-american-fascista-state-n1688694/page/full
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
        “Once a person is touched with power, they are never quite the same again.”
        Samurai
        *This explains Obama bin Laden

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Bob says — “Yet the people never catch on, and they never rebel. It’s amazing”.
    Thanks to that wonderful Government invention — Public Schooling.
    http://mises.org/journals/jls/7_1/7_1_3.pdf

    • retired

      Our public training facilities are not schools of learning. They are socialist brainwashing mechanisms to orient our children in submissive behavior
      to a tyrannical government.

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    More on the Health Care Facialism:
    http://mises.org/daily/3793
    The myth of free market healthcare:
    http://mises.org/daily/5066

  • TheOriginalDaveH

    Terri Anderson of Facebook says — “Autoimmune disease cannot get research funding due to BIG PHARMECUITICLE COMPANIES not being able to make a great deal of profit from the medicines that would give us back SOME quality of life”.
    The solution to problems such as yours, Terri, is to get Big Government out of the medical business altogether. They are consuming dollars that would otherwise have been available for capital investment and research. And they are inhibiting the Free Markets in order to protect their favorite Crony Capitalists. The best chance, that people like us (I also have lived with auto-immune dysfunction for many decades) have, is to get Government out of the equation and let Free Enterprise loose.

    To learn the myriad ways that Real Capitalism (Free Markets, strict Property Rights) would set our country Free, read this, Terri:
    http://library.mises.org/books/Kel%20Kelly/The%20Case%20for%20Legalizing%20Capitalism.pdf

  • Bill

    The sad reality is that the drug companies do not develop cures, they develop therapies. Their goal is to get you to use their drugs as long as possible. It is a crime what they are doing to cancer patients. As well as contributing to a long, slow, painful death, they take all of your money too.
    The best thing to do is not follow the advice of your doctor and especially the government.
    Another farce is the billion dollar anti cholesterol drugs. As we get older we need more cholesterol. Heart disease is caused by inflammation. Change your diet, start taking systemic enzymes, pay for your own chelation therapy (your insurance will not cover it) and start weight training. No more heart problems

  • Doc No

    Medical care is not the #1 killer!
    I seriously think that you folks should worry more about what Israelis had ordered Obama to do to Syria instead.
    If they should trigger off WWIII you will have nowhere to hide, nowhere to run
    to… and US government and their families will be hiding in the Colorado
    bunkers; unfortunately, they won’t be there for you tho.

    Think about this… a desperate US government that is about to lose everything
    will absolutely not hesitate to fire all their nukes at Russia, China and India
    after hiding their families in the C-bunkers. What do you think will happen in
    return like immediately? All it takes is one missile hitting Yellowstone and half of land of the no-longer-free will be destroyed and the bunkers will be crushed by giant earthquakes then all will be evaporated by lava plus nuke missiles from all directions. The planet will be — flatline.

    • Karolyn

      Oh, really? Tell that to all the people who have died due to pharmaceuticals and Dr. errors.

      • TheOriginalDaveH

        It seems oddly inconsistent, Karolyn, that you could be so awake to Crony Big Pharma, but give our current Dictator a Free Pass.

        • Karolyn

          I do not give him a free pass and never said I did. I disagree with a lot. I just do not believe he is out to destroy the country and will point out good things and refute false accusations whenever I find them. It’s called balance and an open mind. The things I am most passionate about are Big Pharma, companies like Monsanto; the FDA, and I am somewhat of an animal activist.

          • Doc No

            Karolyn, I didn’t say you were wrong about big-pharma…
            Democracies kill covertly and benevolently. They carry out mass murder in many ways. For example,
            democracy creates war under the pretense of patriotism. Millions of people die and never rebel. It’s repeated over and over. Yet the people never catch on, and they never rebel. It’s amazing.
            American democracy kills millions of people!
            The US government makes constant war
            on the people covertly. It is so covert that only a handful of people in government are even aware. Indeed, it may be fewer than a handful of people who
            are aware of the government crime of mass murder population control.

            Founding father Dr. Benjamin Rush argued before the American Continental Congress:
            Unless we put Medical Freedom into the Constitution, the time will come when medicine will organize into an undercover dictatorship… to restrict the art of healing
            to one class of men, and deny equal privilege to others, will be to constitute the Bastille of Medical Science. All such laws are un-American and despotic, and have no place in a Republic… The Constitution of this Republic should make special privilege for Medical Freedom as well as Religious Freedom.

            I am saying that perpetual wars are the most severe mean of global population control and politicians’ profit… and igniting WWIII will bring us all to END time!

          • Charlie

            Doc ,,, ONLY the state god ,,, issues a “”License”””……

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          Just Blind Slavering love – it does not matter if it would be Devil himself.

        • Doc No

          Hi Dave, my cousin Sun says hello.

      • WTS/JAY

        MEDICAL ERRORS, THE FDA, AND PROBLEMS WITH PRESCRIPTION DRUGS

        Medical Errors – A Leading Cause of DeathThe JOURNAL of the AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION (JAMA) Vol 284, No 4, July 26th 2000 article written by Dr Barbara Starfield, MD, MPH, of the Johns Hopkins School of Hygiene and Public Health, shows that medical errors may be the third leading cause of death in the United States.

        The report apparently shows there are 2,000 deaths/year from unnecessary surgery; 7000 deaths/year from medication errors in hospitals; 20,000 deaths/year from other errors in hospitals; 80,000 deaths/year from infections in hospitals; 106,000 deaths/year from non-error, adverse effects of medications – these total up to 225,000 deaths per year in the US from iatrogenic causes which ranks these deaths as the # 3 killer. Iatrogenic is a term used when a patient dies as a direct result of treatments by a physician, whether it is from misdiagnosis of the ailment or from adverse drug reactions used to treat the illness. (drug reactions are the most common cause).

        http://www.cancure.org/medical_errors.htm

      • WTS/JAY

        Obama administration gives Big Pharma favors for UHC support

        From a former Secretary of Labor:

        “I’m a strong supporter of universal health insurance, and a fan of the Obama administration. But I’m appalled by the deal the White House has made with the pharmaceutical industry’s lobbying arm to buy their support.

        Last week, after being reported in the Los Angeles Times, the White House confirmed it has promised Big Pharma that any healthcare legislation will bar the government from using its huge purchasing power to negotiate lower drug prices. That’s basically the same deal George W. Bush struck in getting the Medicare drug benefit, and it’s proven a bonanza for the drug industry….

        In return, Big Pharma isn’t just supporting universal health care. It’s also spending a lots of money on TV and radio advertising in support. Sunday’s New York Times reports that Big Pharma has budgeted $150 million for TV ads promoting universal health insurance, starting this August (that’s more money than John McCain spent on TV advertising in last year’s presidential campaign), after having already spent a bundle through advocacy groups like Healthy Economies Now and Families USA.

        Let me remind you: Any bonanza for the drug industry means higher health-care costs for the rest of us, which is one reason why critics of the emerging healthcare plans, including the Congressional Budget Office, are so worried about their failure to adequately stem future healthcare costs. To be sure, as part of its deal with the White House, Big Pharma apparently has promised to cut future drug costs by $80 billion. But neither the industry nor the White House nor any congressional committee has announced exactly where the $80 billion in savings will show up nor how this portion of the deal will be enforced. In any event, you can bet that the bonanza Big Pharma will reap far exceeds $80 billion. Otherwise, why would it have agreed”?

        http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=43700

  • Louis Lemieux

    “For the purpose of this discussion, we look at how the medical establishment in American democracy kills millions of people.” How can that be if the average life expectancy in the U.S. in 1930 was 59.85 years and now it’s close to 80 years.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      That is a non-sequitur, Louis.
      One does not preclude the other.
      For instance, suppose we had two classes of people, both of which had a life expectancy of 80. One whole class could be eliminated and the life expectancy of the remaining class would still be 80.

      • KG

        If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle. so?

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Your aunt probably does.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            D’oh! :-) :-) :-) Ha, ha, ha, ha! Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          I guess that is the way you communist pigs are. Here are some articles that deal with you and your ilk.
          http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/08/beware-alinsky-method-discrediting-america-purpose-installing-communist-change/
          http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/08/why-did-kim-jung-un-execute-a-former-girlfriend-and-11-others/
          He executed them because they were passing out Bible to the people. So much for your ilk and liberties, eh KG? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
          “A patriot must be a religious man.”
          Thomas Jefferson
          Signer of the Declaration of Independence
          3rd President of the U.S.
          Orthodox Christian

          • KG

            Samurai (AKA Blowfish)

            Hyon’s ties to Kim raise the question whether it’s possible there is an ulterior motive for the execution. In North Korea, executions have been carried out as a way to eliminate perceived threats to the power of the Supreme Leader and his inner circle, but with such a dearth of facts in this case, it is hard to say anything for certain.

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/29/hyon-song-wol_n_3837098.html

            Thomas Jefferson was NOT an ‘orthodox’ christian. He hated “pseudo” Christians – the one’s like you who claim Christ and act completely different than one would expect from a believer.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Please provide evidence that Samurai “acts completely different”. Just do not give us your demonic definition of Christ and His teachings.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            The Hufffington Post? That liberal rag? You are right about the executions and why they take place in North Korea, but having a Bible, reading it, preaching it, talking about God, Jesus, Christianity, church, the Holy Spirit, is considered a threat to the leader who is an atheist. I wonder if his great grandparents were still alive, if he would have executed them as well. They were Catholics. Jefferson may not have liked CINO’s, as we call them, and Jefferson did believe in God and Jesus, so he was Christian. There are still debates as to how devout he was, but he was an orthodox Christian. Speaking of the news, here is something from the Communist News Network (CNN) about Syria.
            http://www.friendsofsyria.wordpress.com/2013/09/01/cnn-caught-staging-news-segments-on-syria-with-actors/
            So much for the liberal press, eh? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “If we did a good act merely from love of God and a belief that it is pleasing to Him, whence arises the morality of the atheist? Their virtue then, must of had some other foundation than the love of God.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            3rd President of the U.S.
            Orthodox Christian

          • KG

            It would seem that if they were Christians, they should have followed Jesus’ advice:

            Matthew 6:4-6
            King James Version (KJV)
            4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
            5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
            6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

            Luke 10:9-11
            King James Version (KJV)
            9 And heal the sick that are therein, and say unto them, The kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.
            10 But into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you not, go your ways out into the streets of the same, and say,
            11 Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe off against you: notwithstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of God is come nigh unto you.

            I think G-d would want alive believers rather than dead hypocrites.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            That is tithings and prayers, but you haven’t said anything about speaking in public about their faith. Once again you have missed the mark and have misinterpreted what it is you have posted. Here is something from the pretender in the White House.
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-sex-ed-kindergartners-right-thing/
            Just another fine socialist/communist example, eh KG? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “A single grain of rice can tip the scale. One man can be the difference between victory and defeat.”
            Anonymous

          • KG

            Matthew 6:4-6
            King James Version (KJV)

            5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

            Does that sound like quiet meditation at home? Does Reverend Phelps follow the ‘will of G-d”?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU0jm18_g6I

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          If your husband would not have balls, he would be your wife. I hope even you understand that.

          And please, do not cite your favorite passages (1 Samuel 18:1, 3-4; 2 Samuel 1:26) to justify your PERVERSION and DEPRAVITY. Do you Remember? It’s debunk!!! If you forgot, I can remind. Just ask.

          With God’s Agape,
          Alondra

          • KG

            Matthew 24
            King James Version (KJV)
            3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
            4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
            5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many…..

            12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

            You are proof of these prophecies. Sorry Alondra, but you don’t seem very full of Christs love.

          • Charlie

            KG ,,, notice , verse 4 ,,, you have been and are Duped , Deceived and Deluded by the Satanic powers that be …

          • KG

            You are a man. and your false religion doesn’t deceive me.

      • Louis Lemieux

        What you are saying does not make any sense because the numbers I gave is for all Americans, one whole class of people and not two.

        • TheOriginalDaveH

          Of course it wouldn’t make sense to you, Louis. I didn’t expect it to.

          • Louis Lemieux

            I’m talking of the average life expectancy of one group of people, us Americans, and to refute what I’m saying you bring in another anonymous group that you eliminate! What kind of logic is that?!!!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            I proved your logic to be egregiously fallacious, Louis. And you’re too ignorant to know it. I’m sorry but I don’t know enough kindergarten logic to dumb my example down enough for you to understand.
            But I’ll try again. Maybe if you think real hard you can figure it out. We’ll take your 1 Class and divide it into two classes, both of which have life expectancy of 80. Don’t tell me that isn’t possible, Ignoramus, because any adolescent can figure out that it is. We could eliminate that whole half of the original class, and the remaining half of the original class would still have the life expectancy of 80 because it was divided to be that way. So I have proven your logic to be fallacious, by example, Ignoramus.
            Now go away, child, because I’m not going to explain it to you any further.

          • Louis Lemieux

            “For the purpose of this discussion, we look at how the medical establishment in American democracy kills millions of people.” If people are being killed and prevented from growing older, life expectancy goes down.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Louis,
            Beyond a shadow of a doubt, you are the most ignorant Liberal Progressive who hangs out on this board.
            If you have a group of people with a life expectancy of 80, you could kill everybody else in the world and as long as you didn’t change the living conditions in that group, their life expectancy would still be 80.
            What is wrong with you? If you have a mental incapacity, that is one thing, but to be mentally incapacitated and keep on posting your nonsense is beyond normal human behavior.
            You need to seek help.

          • WTS/JAY

            You tried, DaveH. :)

          • Louis Lemieux

            Life expectancy is not like looking at a chart with fixed numbers on it. It takes into account the fact that people are being born, age and die over time.
            Due to progress in science a lot less people today die of contagious diseases and those being born today have a higher life expectancy because of that. The same way, if someone keeps killing millions of people today all over the U.S., those being born have a lower life expectancy. Tell me why it should be different.

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            Okay Louis, I give up trying to explain rationally why your original comment was fallacious.
            I will start being more like you and ask questions like — “millions of people die every year in the US. So why doesn’t that drag down the Life Expectancy? How can the life expectancy still be 80?”.
            I know, it’s purposely ignorant and bogus, but that’s what I put up with you in your almost every comment, Louis.
            Also, if you’d look at Bob’s comment carefully, you would see that it was very broad. He didn’t say when those millions died or even where. It could have been over the last several decades or it could have been since 1900 when Government started meddling in Healthcare, or some other time period. Those deaths, whenever they occurred were part of the life expectancy statistics for those various years. If Bob is right, and millions were killed, then absent those unnecessary deaths the life expectancy would be even greater for those time periods.

          • Louis Lemieux

            Oh, so now you agree with me but you keep saying I’m ignorant!

            I said ” if someone keeps killing millions of people today all over the U.S., those being born have a lower life expectancy.” Compare that to what you are saying now: “If Bob is right, and millions were killed, then absent those unnecessary deaths the life expectancy would be even greater for those time periods.” We’re now both essentially saying the same thing but in a different way.

            “For the purpose of this discussion, we look at how the medical establishment in American democracy kills millions of people.” It’s obvious the author means this is going on right now. I like the way you try and dilute your mistake by extending the time frame to the nineteenth century!

          • TheOriginalDaveH

            You’re hopeless, Louis.
            My comment was to illustrate the fact that those deaths were taken into account for the Life Expectancies that you listed. That hardly supported your nonsense.

  • ibn insha

    Stop blaming big corporations. If we keep blaming big corporations we would never solve the problem. Of course corporations buy politicians but who elects these politicians into office who come with a price tag attached? We the people. If we do not want politicians to sell themselves to corporations then we should vote for the right person and if they misbehave in the office just elect somebody else next time. But how many times does it happen? Seldom. We need to have a look at ourselves in the mirror. Remember, corrupt societies elect corrupt people into office.

    • TheOriginalDaveH

      Yeah sure, ibn, once every 2, 4, or 6 years depending on the office.
      Better yet we should only elect candidates who promise to cut the size of Government dramatically and Free our Marketplace and get out of our personal choices, so that we can punish those who don’t please us immediately by withdrawing our customership. And there is only one party that I would trust to keep their word on that effort:
      http://www.lp.org/

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Sharia Law
    she’s buried chest high
    her arms can’t stop the stones that fly
    or wipe the tears that have already dried
    for a crime she so persistently denied
    she’s buried chest deep
    the moderates asleep
    no matter how hard she weeps
    worth half of a man, her testimony’s cheap
    Allah subhana wa taala has come up with such a fair rule
    dictators of history couldn’t be so cruel
    told by mohammed sallahu 3alhe wa salam
    teaching us allah’s divine referendum
    what becomes of those who have a sip of rum
    drinks to forget or wants to be numb
    or those who play the game of chance
    poker buddies escaping the religious trance
    allah’s prescribed in his merciful script
    their flesh be ripped their blood be dripped
    at the tip of a muslims whip

    she’s buried chest deep
    the moderates asleep
    no matter how hard she weeps
    worth half of a manher testimony’s cheap
    apostates remember those who have bled
    to speak the word Muslims leave unsaid
    killed for the sake of those mislead
    submit now or be left dead
    allah subhana wa ta3ala has come up with such a fair rule
    the devil himself couldn’t be so cruel

    she’s buried head high
    in a heap of stones.
    no more crying no more moans
    all that’s left is skin and bones
    Allah has come up with such a “fair” call
    the “true justice” of sharia law
    sharia law by nessrriinn.

    Sharia Law – “She’s buried chest high”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOIbgd5qcrg

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Great post! Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Did you have a good weekend? I sure did. I roasted some libturds and progturds on the grill. Here is an article about Muslims in America.
      http://www.politichicks.tv/column/blending-muslims-adapting-libertarianism-america/
      If anyone is a libertarian, I meant no offense. Here is one about John “Flip Flop” Kerry. You know, the one who wears a purple heart that he didn’t earn? I know I earned my 2 purple hearts.
      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2408805/Kerrys-cozy-dinner-Syrias-Hitler-Secretary-State-man-likened-German-dictator-pictured-dining-wives-Damascus-restaurant-civil-war-broke-out.html
      Here is one about how the 5th column is trying to turn America into a 3rd world nation. They and the communists have been doing a good job so far.
      http://www.politichicks.tv/column/yet-america-becoming-third-world-country/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하구 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.
      “History is God’s providence in human affairs.”
      Daniel Webster
      American statesman
      “Defender of the Constitution”
      Devout Christian

    • WTS/JAY

      Islam and Sharia Law are coming to America…

      Sharia, or Islamic law, influences the legal code in most Muslim countries. A movement to allow sharia to set regulations that pertain to marriage, divorce, inheritance, and custody, is now expanding into the United States. All Sharia is derived from two primary sources, the divine revelations set forth in the Qur’an, and the sayings and example set by the Prophet Muhammad in the Sura.

      What is Sharia Law?

      Also meaning “path” in Arabic, sharia guides all aspects of Muslim life including daily routines, familial and religious obligations, and financial dealings. It is derived primarily from the Qur’an and the Sunna, the sayings, practices, and teachings of the Prophet Mohammed.

      Marriage and divorce are the most significant aspects of sharia, but criminal law is the most controversial. In sharia, there are categories of offenses.

      The chief elements of Sharia Law are first: a belief that women are deficient in their natural and “innate” potentials and abilities, including their psychological-makeup and intellectual capacity. The Islamic Penal Codes are based on violence in its most primitive forms. These not only authorize organized state violence, but also encourage male violence against women within the family and in society. While precise statistics are scarce, the UN estimates thousands of women are killed annually in the family honor…

      http://www.examiner.com/article/islam-and-sharia-law-are-coming-to-america

      • gunner689

        Over this old Marine’s dead body. To Hell with allah and his evil laws and his evil book. It’s time to thin the herd of these degenerate subhumans.

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          God BLESS you, old Marine,
          and allah’s piss be upon their heads.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          I hear you. This 20 year combat veteran of the army will not let it happen up here. Sharia Law is not an option. Here is an article that tells about the Bible and Damascus.
          http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/biblical-doom-of-damascus-right-before-our-eyes/
          Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Thanks for your service, devil dog. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
          “…the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays, and the lesbians…I point my finger in their face and say, ‘You helped this happen.'”
          Reverand Jerry Falwell
          September 14, 2001

          • KG

            quote:”…the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays, and the lesbians…I point my finger in their face and say, ‘You helped this happen.'”
            Reverand Jerry Falwell
            September 14, 2001

            So the terrorists were following G-ds orders! So the hijackers were justified in their attack on pagan America, right? Isn’t that what the ‘good’ reverend was saying?…or Admitting? So, are you saying G-d let them attack America for our own good? Hmmmm……

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Everything you posted after the quote is so ignorant and show lack of reading comprehention skills that to answer it would make me sound as bad as you. Just go home KG, as you bring nothing to the conversation. Here is something about you and your ilk.
            http://www.dailycaller.com/2013/05/13/syrian-rebel-leader-eats-heart-of-enemy-soldier-on-camera-video/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “A man who lives only for revenge, keeps his own wounds green.”
            Francis Bacon

          • KG

            So you admit that the attack on 9/11 was an act of G-d to punish America for all of it’s ‘sinners’? The hijackers claimed to be following the will of G-d. Reverend Fallwell was pointing out the fact that G-d attacked America because of the ‘sinners’. So the ‘will of G-d’ was carried out by the hijackers. Well, in that case, maybe we should thank them. Look at how much moral our country has become since then.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Well said and keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Here are 2 articles dealing with Syria, Obama bin Laden, and the Prince of Saudi Arabia.
        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/08/reports-saudi-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-using-us-to-topple-assad/
        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/08/who-benefits-us-war-with-syria/
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “I now make it my earnest prayer that God would most graciously be pleased to dispose us all to do justice, to love mercy, and to demean ourselves with that charity, humility, and pacific temper of the mind which were the characteristics of the Divine Author of our blessed religion (Christianity).”
        George Washington
        Founding father
        “Father of our country”
        Commander of the Continental Armies
        1st President of the U.S.
        Devout Christian

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    One Picture That Is WORTH a Thousand Words

    This is the TRUTH about Syrian “rebels”.
    This is whom the Kenyan Kriminal supports
    DAILY BEHEADING by Obama-armed and funded Syrian jihadists aka rebels
    (WARNING: Graphic images, that make you extremely sick)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV_SanKfxno
    http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/06/19/daily-beheading-by-obama-armed-and-funded-syrian-jihadists-warning-graphic-images/
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJa7pu5jWJA&list=PLCXz-6XQV0TY7DezxeHN484TDf903prVB

    • WTS/JAY

      What a bunch of sick f**ks! Religion of peace, my azz.

    • WTS/JAY

      SHARIA LAW: COMING TO AMERICA?

      Obama’s hand picked legal advisor to the State Department, Harold Koh sees no wrong in imposing Sharia law in the United States. Coming from someone in the Obama administration, I do not find this surprising at all. It fits well within their “radical agenda” (I may owe royalties to Sean Hannity for that) and it is a way for the liberals to “open their hearts” to a “misunderstood” culture all while undermining the United States Constitution: a win/win for leftist loons.

      Here’s what the NY Post reported:

      JUDGES should interpret the Constitution according to other nations’ legal “norms.” Sharia law could apply to disputes in US courts. The United States constitutes an “axis of disobedience” along with North Korea and Saddam-era Iraq.

      Those are the views of the man on track to become one of the US government’s top lawyers: Harold Koh.

      President Obama has nominated Koh — until last week the dean of Yale Law School — to be the State Department’s legal adviser. In that job, Koh would forge a wide range of international agreements on issues from trade to arms control, and help represent our country in such places as the United Nations and the International Court of Justice.

      It’s a job where you want a strong defender of America’s sovereignty. But that’s not Koh. He’s a fan of “transnational legal process,” arguing that (the distinctions between US and international law should vanish).

      http://theswash.com/commentary/sharia-law-coming-to-america

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Well said and true. Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Here is an article showing how we tried to isolate Syria in 2007, but Pelosi screwed things up.
        http://www.weaselzippers.us/2013/08/31/flashback-2007-as-bush-admin-tries-to-isolate-syria-pelosi-meets-with-assad-undermining-u-s-position/
        Here is one about the chemical attack in Syria by the rebels.
        http://www.examiner.com/article/breaking-news-rebels-admit-gas-attack-result-of-mishandling-chemical-weapons
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
        “And because we have understood that our source is eternal, America has been different. We have no king but Jesus.”
        John Ashcroft
        May 1999

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Well, please confess for which violation/ breach you might be
        executed by allah?

        1. Islam commands that drinkers and gamblers should be whipped. Sura 5:90-91.
        2. Islam allows husbands to beat their wives. Qur’an, 4:34
        3. Islam allows an injured plaintiff to exact legal revenge, physical eye for physical eye. Qur’an, 5:45
        4. Islam commands that a male and female thief must have a hand cut off. Qur’an, 5:38
        5. Islam commands that highway robbers should be crucified or mutilated. Qur’an, 5:33. As an alternative, the convicted may have a hand and the opposite foot cut off while being banished from the land instead of crucifixion.
        6. Islam commands that Homosexuals be executed. Abdu Dawud no. 447. Burning to death, stoned while against a wall, or stoned and thrown over a cliff.
        7. Islam orders unmarried fornicators to be whipped and adulterers to be stoned to death. Qur’an, 24-6
        8. Islam orders death for Muslim and possible death for non—Muslim critics of Muhammad and the Quran and even sharia itself.
        9. Islam orders apostates to be killed. Sura 9:11-12
        http://www.examiner.com/article/islam-and-sharia-law-are-coming-to-america

        • KG

          Let’s see what kind of punishment’s the Christian G-d likes to dole out:

          If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.
          — Leviticus 20:9

          Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.
          — 1 Samuel 15:3

          So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father [after they got him drunk and seduced him].
          — Genesis 19:36

          And if [God] rescued Lot, a righteous(!) man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men, for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard.
          — 2 Peter 2:7-8

          The LORD said to Hosea, “Go, take for yourself an adulterous wife and unfaithful children…”
          — Hosea 1:2

          In the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them — the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites — as the LORD your God has commanded you.
          — Deuteronomy 20:16-17

          The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword: their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open.
          — Hosea 13:16

          The LORD commands: “kill without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children”
          — Ezekiel 9:5-6

          Hmm…. so what were you saying about the ‘violent’ muslims?

          • Rick N.

            Alondra is quoting a code of justice – punishment for
            certain behaviors. This code of justice is still widely supported and implemented in the Muslim world today. What you quoted was just a bunch of verses
            from the Old Testament, mostly related to crushing your enemy. These verses have no meaning today. There are no more Amalekites or Canaanites, and no mainstream western religion supports or condones any of the things you quote.

            By the way, Muslims share the same God with Christians. The God of Abraham and Allah are one and the same.

          • Robbie

            You are totally correct that the Bible is filled with hate, violence and really crude “justice” just as is the Koran. BUT the difference is that in the West we do not follow the Bible. We have a secular legal system thank goodness. In many Muslim areas, however, Koranic law IS followed and many Muslims around the world want Sharia to be followed to the letter. BIG difference.

          • WTS/JAY

            No, you are wrong, robbie. The reason why you think the Bible is full of hate, violence and crude justice is because you, are full of hate, violence and really crude justice; as well, because you are forever taking the truth(s) of the Bible out of context, and apparently, you are too stupid and uneducated to realize that you are doing just that. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least that you haven’t the foggiest as to the definition of “context”. Btw, are you and KG from the same litter? You know, the only reason i ask is because he seems to be suffering from the same intellectual-defeciency that you are.

          • Robbie

            The god of the Torah is a violent and vengeful god. Many of the laws therein are harsh and unacceptable by today’s enlightened standards. Death to children who swear at their parents is not acceptable. Stoning homosexuals is unacceptable. Having to marry the man who rapes you is plain nuts. You can conjure up whatever “context” your imagination likes but – bottom line – those and many other Torah laws are no longer valid. Luckily we no longer follow the Bible word for word and we ignore many of its dictates. The problem with Islam is that too many Muslims DO follow – or would like to – the equally harsh Koranic laws.

          • WTS/JAY

            Stick to the liberal arts and leave theology to the more capable, robbie, for doing so will spare you considerable embarrassment. Unfortunately, i know you will not do that, because you are too ignorant and arrogant, and lack the awareness to know, that you are too ignorant and arrogant. Despite what you believe in that pea-size brain of yours, you are not the intellectual-colossus you pretend to be. How you managed to end up in a position of teaching, when you haven’t even the clue as to the concept of “context”, is anyone’s guess. My guess would be that, standards have been drastically lowered in our academic-institutions…?

          • Robbie

            Thanks for your comments but unfortunately they do not even touch on actually explaining this “context” thing you keep mentioning but fail to explain or give an example of. I go by the various laws as they are written. I suspect that when folks like you talk about needing to know the “context” of some law what you are actually doing is saying that law XYZ was good back in the day but no longer which, in actuality I agree with. Yes, it may have been a good idea for a raped woman to marry her rapist back in ancient times but these days it is simply a ghoulish notion to be cast aside a.s.a.p. but it is folks like YOU who want the Bible followed AS WRITTEN. The other possible meaning of “context” from your point of view might be something like this: I like law XYZ that demands death to gays so we’ll keep that bit of hatred but I don’t much agree with law LMN about cancelling all debts every seven years so we’ll DROP that one or just ignore it.

            In any case you continue to avoid explaining what you mean so readers here will have to consider my explanation. Oh, and simply spewing a string of so-called insults at someone certainly does not refute their argument – it merely reveals the lack of a rebuttal.

          • WTS/JAY

            Robbie: Thanks for your comments but unfortunately they do not even touch on actually explaining this “context” thing you keep mentioning but fail to explain or give an example of.

            For example, people like you will often bring up the issue of slavery in Old Testament and will always make the claim that, because God made laws/regulations concerning slavery, therefore, God condoned slavery. That is my first clue that, you, or anyone who makes such a ridiculous claim, have no clue and are speaking out of ignorance.

            You make the first erroneous assumption; regulating a behavior shows approval.

            The Old Testament speaks of slavery often, and lays out rules on how slaves were to be treated. This has caused some to become confused…but a basic understanding of the context for ancient near-eastern slavery shows that the Old Testament does not condone slavery.

            There are 33 Bible verses (NIV) containing the word “divorce”. Divorce is specifically regulated in Scripture, but does that mean that the Bible condones divorce?

            I hate divorce,” says the LORD God of Israel…God hates divorce. Why would He give specific instructions governing it? Simple: because divorce was a fact of life. Failing to provide practical instructions on divorce would be like pretending it didn’t actually happen.

            Well, slavery was also a fact of life. Regulations for slavery should not be confused with the approval of slavery. The existence of regulations for specific behaviors is not the same as approval for those behaviors.

            Many incorrectly assume that the slavery in the Old Testament was like the modern western slavery of the 1700’s and 1800’s. Western slavery primarily benefited the rich, but Israelite slavery primarily benefited the poor.

            Slavery was almost always voluntary…the basic types of “enslavement” were known as self-sale, family sale, and indentured servitude. These relationships were usually initiated by the slave as a remedy for poverty.

            Poor families would sometimes sell their children as slaves. Were this situation like modern western slavery, we could justifiably condemn the practice…but the reality is that this was of great benefit to the child.

            Slavery contracts often emphasized that the slave agreed to work in exchange for economic security and personal protection. While modern western slaves were forbidden to own property of any kind, Hebrew slaves could take part in business, borrow money, and buy their own freedom…in other words, they were free to “buy out” the contract they’d made. They were also able to own property, pay betrothal monies, and pay civic fines. Slaves could appear in court as witnesses, plaintiffs, and defendants.

            Many ancient near-eastern slaves were able to buy time off as well, paying a fixed fee called a “quitrent” to their owner. This bought them a year where they didn’t have to work. The amount paid was roughly equivalent to the average annual pay of a hired worker, regardless of whether he was free or a slave.

            ASSUMPTION #3: Slavery was cruel and inhumane

            While human nature tells us that abuse certainly must have occurred, the Old Testament forbids the cruel treatment of slaves. In fact, slaves were afforded the same legal protections as free citizens.

            Leviticus 25 instructed Israelites to not mistreat slaves:

            Do not rule over them ruthlessly, but fear your God.

            …you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

            …you must see to it that his owner does not rule over him ruthlessly.

            Instead of being cruel and inhumane, the relationships between slaves and owners appear to have been, at the very least, respectful. Many slaves were treated much like members of the owner’s family.

            Deuteronomy 15 has a very instructive passage regarding setting a slave free:

            If a fellow Hebrew, a man or a woman, sells himself to you and serves you six years, in the seventh year you must let him go free. And when you release him, do not send him away empty-handed. Supply him liberally from your flock, your threshing floor and your winepress. Give to him as the LORD your God has blessed you. Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and the LORD your God redeemed you. That is why I give you this command today.

            But if your servant says to you, “I do not want to leave you,” because he loves you and your family and is well off with you, then take an awl and push it through his ear lobe into the door, and he will become your servant for life. Do the same for your maidservant.

            Do not consider it a hardship to set your servant free, because his service to you these six years has been worth twice as much as that of a hired hand. And the LORD your God will bless you in everything you do.

            The personal rights and responsibilities of a slave were clearly more important than the owner’s “property rights”.

            Slavery was generally an economic transaction and not a human rights violation.

            As but one example, slaves were forbidden to work on the Sabbath and were expected to take part in social celebrations…just like their masters.

            It’s clear that the slavery in the Old Testament wasn’t like modern western slavery at all. Obviously, these slaves recieved great benefits from making such arrangements. http://godwords.org/posts.php?id=31

            Robbie: Yes, it may have been a good idea for a raped woman to marry her rapist back in ancient times but these days it is simply a ghoulish notion to be cast aside a.s.a.p. but it is folks like YOU who want the Bible followed AS WRITTEN.

            Again, your comment reveals pure ignorance regarding the issue of one who has raped a virgin and having to marry her, by law.

            In Deuteronomy Chapter 22, various laws are expressed including those relating to sexual behaviour. Verses 28-29 reads:

            “If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and is discovered, he shall pay the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.”

            To really make sense of such verses one has to consider the distinction between the moral, civil and ceremonial laws revealed initially in the Old Testament:

            The Moral Law…is the guidance for living which expresses the moral character of God. These are found most clearly in the Ten Commandments. These laws are binding across time and place. We however are unable to fully keep such laws in our own strength. These laws reveal the sin that, until we are given salvation in Christ, imprisons us.

            The Ceremonial Law…is the guidance concerning the many rituals undertaken as sacrifice in order to cleanse people, before God, of their sin. Hebrews 10:1 tells us, “The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming–not the realities themselves.’. These rules were a representation of the future sacrifice of Christ for the sins of all who would believe in him. For Christians, now Christ has come to earth, died and been resurrected, these rituals are no longer needed. The perfect sacrifice has now been presented to God the Father.

            The Civil Law…is the guidance given to Israel concerning its social and economic affairs. This included its criminal law. These laws were identified to provide a necessary form of social control for the people of Israel forming a society at that particular historical, social and cultural juncture. The civil law in that sense is relative. However, any society seeking to be obedient to God will have a civil law which reflects the moral law of God. As sinners by nature no human society will ever fully achieve this since the moral law of God can ultimately only be fulfilled by Christ Himself (and humans governed by Christ’s Spirit, but not even then on this side of heaven).

            Back to the verse: God’s rules concerning the dealing with this particular type of rape offence reflect, firstly, His moral laws concerning sex outside of marriage and the need for self control. The man has obviously infringed these. He will be punished. The punishment however reflects, secondly, the civil-laws relevant and applicable in that particular society, at that particular point in time. They would not be applicable today though the essence of the immorality of rape remains.

            The punishment: An inability to ever be freed from the responsibility of materially providing for the woman and any child which might have been the result of the rape. He has no choice but to marry her and to then obey all the requirements of the marriage bond.

            Women today, in a society where marriage is no longer absolutely essential for physical survival and social acceptance, would not of course benefit at all from such an arrangement. Women at that time however would suffer not only the indignities of rape, but the indignity of never being accepted as a wife because of no longer being a virgin and therefore social and material destitution.

            God’s anger at rape is therefore revealed in the providing for her material needs. The payment of 50 shekels of silver was very punitive and would be paid regardless of whether she married the offender. This would be on top of the usual dowry expected at that time. The rape is condemned in these verses, the punishment understandable in the civil context of that time-but not applicable today. http://www.peacehopeandhealing.co.uk/id1.html

            And there you have it, Robbie, examples of what i mean by “context”.

            Here, Robbie, the definition of “context” for future reference:

            context |ˈkänˌtekst|noun the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood and assessed : the decision was taken within the context of planned cuts in spending. The parts of something written or spoken that immediately precedeand follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning : word processing is affected by the context in which words appear.

          • Charlie

            KG ,,, Why did God create ALL His Laws ? and how many have you violated ? What does “Judgment” mean ? Did God provide a “Way” to avoid harsh judgment ?……… Do a little “Thinking” outside the normal boxed in brainwashed thinking and you may come up with some Total Truths ,,, such as The Almighty God is The Almighty God ,,, and you little nitwit are still alive and eating GMO’s ………………………………………….

          • KG

            I’m sorry, Charlie, for you seem to be headed to Perdition on your own ego balloon trip.

            Matthew 7
            King James Version (KJV)
            7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
            2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
            3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
            4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
            5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

          • Charlie

            KG ,,, I judge no one ,,, but ,,, The Law Words Judge All …
            I’m just a referee ,,, I call them as I see PER the game rule book…………………………..

          • KG

            In other words, you judge people. What did Christ say about that?

            Matthew 7
            King James Version (KJV)
            7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
            2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

            So, by judging people to he77, you are setting yourself up to enjoy the same fate. What did the Spirit tell the last church in Revelations?

            Revelation 3:17-19
            King James Version (KJV)
            17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
            18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
            19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

            Note verse 19. What if the people you are rebuking are being tried by G-d? How do you know? You don’t, unless you see yourself as G-d.

          • Charlie

            KG ,,, you’ve twisted contexts ,,, “far out” ,,, which means your mind has a circuit breaker or 2 popped ,,, Go eat a bowl of GMOs and take a deep breath of Smogville air ,,, maybe your breakers will reset ………………….

          • KG

            I guess the guilt of your apostasy is too much to handle.

          • Charlie

            KG ,,, ha hahahaha ha ……………………………………..
            Explain that word apostasy ???

          • KG

            Apostasy (/əˈpɒstəsi/; Greek: ἀποστασία (apostasia), ‘a defection or revolt’) is the formal disaffiliation from or abandonment or renunciation of a religion by a person.

            It seems in you judgmental attitude and you desire for riches (a common trait amongst Libertarians) that you have, in effect, rejected Christianity as taught by Christ.

          • Charlie

            KG ,,, YOU ,,, don’t know Christianity as taught by King Jesus Christ … You are typical of heathen people ,,, you use words , thinking you know the meanings ,,, BUT ,, have NOT harmonized the words with “”Contexts””,,, this is sometimes called being “Brainwashed””…. For example the word apostasy as you define it ,,,does not ,,, apply to The Bible ,,, BECAUSE ,,, The Bible IS NOT a “”Religion”” it is a “”Way of Life””,,, BUT ,,, many people “Think” it is a Religion because it applies to “other” “”gods”” AND “They” think The Almighty God is just another god ,,, this erroneous thinking is also known as brainwashing , because it IS NOT “””Truth””” according to God’s Words ..
            Remember that I identified you as a Agent Provocateur , they , will NEVER be “Real” PER The Book “”Christians””,
            BECAUSE ,,, NO ONE can serve 2 Gods ,,, ONE MUST go with The Big G God ,,,OR,, the small g god …………..

          • Charlie

            KG ,,, YOU ,,, don’t know Christianity as taught by King Jesus Christ … You are typical of heathen people ,,, you use words , thinking you know the meanings ,,, BUT ,, have NOT harmonized the words with “”Contexts””,,, this is sometimes called being “Brainwashed””…. For example the word apostasy as you define it ,,,does not ,,, apply to The Bible ,,, BECAUSE ,,, The Bible IS NOT a “”Religion”” it is a “”Way of Life””,,, BUT ,,, many people “Think” it is a Religion because it applies to “other” “”gods”” AND “They” think The Almighty God is just another god ,,, this erroneous thinking is also known as brainwashing , because it IS NOT “””Truth””” according to God’s Words ..
            Remember that I identified you as a Agent Provocateur , they , will NEVER be “Real” PER The Book “”Christians””,
            BECAUSE ,,, NO ONE can serve 2 Gods ,,, ONE MUST go with The Big G God ,,,OR,, the small g god …………..

          • KG

            I,,,have,,,just,,,figured,,,,out,,,how,,,you,,,talk Remember captain Kirk?

          • macgyver1948

            Heyy Charlie, neither do I or any Jew know “Christianity as taught by King Jesus Christ …” and we never will. :-)

          • macgyver1948

            Hi Charlie,,, Yes, God, as we see Him, does provide for forgiveness. Even King David who murdered the hubby of the women he was doing was forgiven after he repented, a prophet told him to. This is what a good and loving God does, forgive when we repent. But I have to wonder, since Allah, which is just another name for the same God as ours, if those who write about their God have misinterpreted the words and requests of God/Allah. Nothing unusual about that in some religions throughout history. For example people here go into the Hebrew Bible and edit the meanings of Hebrew scripture to justify what they choose to believe in their bibles.

            Misunderstandings can be deliberate at times by the writers for future generations, just as history in general can be, so maybe the Muslims were mis-taught about God in the Karon by its writers, as we might see it. I for one do not want to be murdered, or even just told I am wrong for how I choose to believe, by a religious nut just because I will not convert to and accept their ways of believing/worshiping/accepting their religion but there are different degrees of religious intolerances in so many religions and that has been going on fort a very long time.

          • Robert Messmer

            Alondra said nothing about the “violent” muslims; she asked what punishment we would receive and listed a few from the Qur’an. Genesis 19:36 is not a punishment–well ok some pregnant women might think they are being punished. The next one also is not a punishment, it simply describes why Lot and his family was rescued. Perhaps you were trying to use the punishment Lot’s wife received for looking back to view the destruction. After all being turned into a pillar of salt just for peeking is a pretty harsh punishment, even though that does mean she became the first person in the world who was truly worth their salt. Other than the one from Leviticus they all seem to mention tribes or nations so that would be warfare, not punishment for an individual who breaks a law.

          • KG

            The point was to show the fallacy of ‘Christianity’ being any less violent of a religion than Islam is portrayed to be. Islam as a religion is about as old as Christianity was during the Crusades. There were terrorists then, most of the world called them ‘Christians.’ Ask the people in Afghanistan or Iraq who the terrorists are and they would tell you Christian American Soldiers.

          • Robert Messmer

            The problem is the Qur’an is all Old Testament while almost all Christians now are New Testament so more Love and Forgiveness. The Crusades were in response to Muslim expansion. Yes Crusaders being soldiers did what soldiers have always done since war was invented. I doubt the Afghani or Iraqi really care what religion, if any, the American Soldiers are–they will blame them because that is what they have been told to do.

        • Robert Messmer

          LOL whipped under #1, #7, stoned #7 but only if that applies to men. Under Jewish law at the time of the Ten Commandments, adultery was a crime that only married women could commit.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Roberto, R E P E N T !!!

      • guest

        This makes me want to escape this country BEFORE it is implemented.
        No brown or black sack wearing for me!
        No obedience to men BECAUSE they are men.
        This Koh has to go,

      • Robert Messmer

        How long has that whack job been the Dean of Yale Law School? How many future lawyers and judges has he infected with his sickness?

      • macgyver1948

        WTS/JAY.. As long as it does not deny our Constitutional rights to Freedom Of Religion, with nothing limiting it or any of our other rights, and Jihad of any kind to any degree is totally outlawed we might not mind. But if it does do what I say it cannot do here I will be defending us against them along with you.

        • WTS/JAY
          • macgyver1948

            WTS/JAY… I guess thanks for the link to “The curse of “progressive” feminism”, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…, but I am not really sure why you sent it to me. This guy is clearly offering his opinions and he does so rather progressively.

            Is it your point to show how it could be here if Islamism takes over here – if they become a majority? If it does we have to make sure our laws, especially our Constitution, remain in force and prevents any
            religion from taking over. What goes on in other countries where Islamists grow in number is a good example for that but it clearly shows we cannot allow, here in the US, any religion to dominate or
            influence law making, or law enforcement either, and I have known that for decades and this guy in your video proves what can happen in an extreme cases. We here cannot allow Freedom Of Religion to be
            altered or negated to any degree by allowing any religion to influence law making or law enforcement. That is always worth repeating and this guy in your “The curse of “progressive” feminism” video does so so nicely and progressively. :-)

            By the way, maybe this goes to his credibility, he says he is an atheist and he often thinks of becoming religious so he can ask God something in his sarcastic way. Now wouldn’t that presume, on his part, God is
            an idiot to fall for his fake religious pretenses? LOL.

            Thank you for the URL to your video. This guy is kind of funny in his progressive sort of conservatism. LOL. And he does show why we have to protect the Constitution in regards to “Freedom Of Religion”
            for and from all religious influences. It has to work in both directions in that The Government must stay out of religions’ work and the religions must stay out of influencing law making and enforcement. That is so very important so thank you again for the video. Sometime we just have to use an extremism to get the point across to any degree and this video you offer does that nicely.

            Oh I have to correct something from a previous response of mine to you, I noticed it right after I sent it and I guess I was in a hurry to notice it sooner. I made it look, by accident and oversight, like We The People would not get hurt by GOP actions. Instead I meant and should have typed “And I see the GOP as not caring how much they directly hurt us with their threats to shut down the government. They will not hurt themselves if they actually go through with it but they will hurt so many of us in big ways”. Sorry about that oversight…

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Did you hear about another heinous nonsense crime, or I missed the National Mainstream Media’s report?

    Memphis, TN: A young WHITE, a 27 year-young (!!!) David Santuchi, was walking to his car on a city street late at night on August 12, when he was confronted by a trio of BLACK individuals. They shot him dead. Police have arrested THREE people and charged them with first degree murder. But the victim’s family can’t understand why the shooting is being called a “failed robbery” when they say the evidence suggests a HATE CRIME. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z5jH_oTU4XU#t=107

    I am sure that the White House is “Not Familiar” with this HATE CRIME as it wasn’t with the Chris Lane Murder.

    And was Rev. Jesse Jackson Sr. tweet also like this:
    Praying for the family of David Santuchi. This senseless violence is FROWNED UPON and the justice system must prevail.

    • Robert Messmer

      Maybe I missed it but no where in that clip did anyone mention HATE CRIME, not even the victim’s mother. In fact it stated that he would have forgiven them and she said that if her son could meet the three he would want to know if they knew Jesus. Mayor Wharton (black) stated that police were stepping up their efforts to get guns out of the hands of young people. The three were arrested thirteen minutes after the crime.

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Yeah. This is defected and twisted Christianity with the WHITE guilt.

        “You SHALL NOT murder.” – God (God’s 6th Commandment)

  • WTS/JAY
    • macgyver1948

      WTS/JAY… Very nice video in its extreme but what I get out of it is more proof how we MUST protect Freedom Of Religion equally for all. The video shows clearly we have to protect ourselves from Jihad no matter what religion, culture and in whatever language for Liberty and freedom to survive.

      WTS/JAY, see my post to you, below, in response to your other video,
      “The curse of “progressive” feminism” In that response I get more involved on the subject of religious freedoms and how we have to protect it for us all equally.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    WHY the West and U.S. leaders hate Vladimir Putin?

    Because he is SMART, WISE, REALISTIC and totally INDEPENDENT.

    On June 16, 2013 at the news conference with the UK Prime Minister Cameron, Russian President Vladimir Putin questioned WHY the West would want to arm Syrian rebels who ate human organs, which totally contradicted basic human values.

    “You will not deny that one does not really need to support the people who not only kill their enemies, but open up their bodies, eat their intestines in front of the public and cameras. ARE THESE THE PEOPLE YOU WANT TO SUPPORT?

    “Is it them WHO YOU WANT TO SUPPLY WITH WEAPONS? Then THIS HAS
    LITTLE RELATION TO HUMANITARIAN VALUES THAT HAVE BEEN PREACHED IN EUROPE for hundreds of years.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/putin-warns-west-to-not-arm-organ-eating-syrian-rebels/article12588834/

    This statement Mr.Putin made 2+ months ago. The Videos with the evidences allover Internet. And I am sure CIA has planty of them. But the republican WHORES like McCain and Graham are giving “conditional” support to the Muslim-in-Jihad.
    What it even means “conditional”? Like “conditional” love? Sickening!!!!!!!!!

    MUST SEE! Glenn Beck Video – THIS Is Who We Are Helping In Syria!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GfHSPLW63Gg#t=122
    This is what these savages are taught from birth with their helly book koran in the hand. And they are in our government and in the heart of the USA – White House, which became the Korrupt Kenyan Kriminal the Satanic masque.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. Here is an article about Putin.
      http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/putin-foolish-nonsense
      Here is one showing how the average service member does not want to fight in Syria.
      http://www.thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hill/operations/319807-armed-services-leaders-dont-endorse-syria-strike
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “It is fitting that we have a National Prayer Breakfast. It is the right thing to do, because this is a nation of prayer.”
      George W. Bush
      February 6, 2003

    • Bob666

      Yo KG,

      I would bet there are some real fantasies that Porkenstein has about her mentor and Boy-Toy- Vadimir Putin.

      • macgyver1948

        Bob666… She missed the parts about Putin and Russia supplying arms and other nasty stuff to our enemies and to our allies enemies. LOL

        • Robert Messmer

          So since Russia supplies arms to our enemies, then its ok for us and our allies to arm savages? More importantly they will use the arms we give them to kill us which is a good argument against giving them arms.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Robert, what are you talking about. WHY fear mongering.
            Liberals are compassionate muslims.

          • macgyver1948

            Alondra…LMAO…Wow…. “WHY fear mongering.Liberals are compassionate muslims”. There is no depth limit to your blind madness. LOL

          • Bob666

            Yo Mac,
            Blind & Madness-That is our little propaganda pig!

          • macgyver1948

            :-)

          • macgyver1948

            Robert Messmer… We, The US have for so long been supplying arms to our future enemies. The former president of Iraq, the former government of Afghanistan before and during their chess match with Russia and on and on in different parts of the world.

            “So since Russia supplies arms to our enemies, then its ok for us and our allies to arm savages?” you ask Bob666. My answer is not just no but H*E*L*L NO. We can never justify evil or dangerous actions by
            others in ourselves. The same goes for torturing political, terroristic or any other kind of (our) enemy/prisoner because how would be able to tell the difference between us and those we call “The Bad Guys”. We need to go after those who attack us but we must practice what we preach, either from our laws or from what we each call or bibles in order for us to be “The Good Guys” and continue ethically and justifiably with our American bragging rights.It should never matter what political party we follow if we want to
            be American, we should just do what is right all the time or we lose our right to our American bragging rights.

        • WTS/JAY

          Obama is doing likewise, mac. So what’s your point?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            As always NONE. Just MOVE UP and DOWN.

          • macgyver1948

            WTS/JAY… Since we little people here cannot know what is really going on yet we shouldn’t jump to conclusions. I guess that is my point.

          • WTS/JAY

            Yet you seem to jump to conclusions where everybody else is concerned; Nixon, Putin, Bush…but when it comes to Obama, you suddenly switch gears and caution everyone about not reaching conclusions. Why the favouritism, mac?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Do you know WHY ben Crystal skipped his job today?

          • macgyver1948

            WTS/JAY… What I said about Nixon, Putin, Bush are basically from history. Today on this site I told of the things about Obama’s actions I do not like (did you miss those, I could re-post them to you?) so for you to assume “favouritism”, as you say it, is another false jump or leap on your part. I just see Obama as less evil as the many purchased and controlled GOP. And I see the GOP as not caring how much they directly hurt us with their threats to shut down the government. They will not hurt us if they actually go through with it but they will hurt so many of us.There is a lot more but that is enough. So, what “favouritism”? My favoritism is for “We The People.

          • Merle Dickey

            The dems are the ones that will be shutting the government. All they have to do is give up something small and the congress will vote it in And there are many things in Oamacare that couild be taken out.Such as the provision that people over 75 will not be treated for any illness that would be terminal without treatment. But you will get end of life counseling!! How’s that for thinning the population out.

        • Bob666

          Yo Mac,
          Pork Chop may or may-not have missed it, but as a propagandist-it does not meet her propaganda agenda so that fact or any other fact is immaterial.

          • macgyver1948

            Bob666… All I can say about that is even the insane and dull have a right to Free Speech, it must be that way in free society.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Teen Jeopardy Champion Gives Hilarious Subtle Insult To the Stupid-in-chief.

    He wants to replace o’homo, because of his lock of the COMPETENCE and
    ACCOUNTABILITY: http://www.westernjournalism.com/teen-jeopardy-champion-gives-hilarious-subtle-insult-to-obama/

    Even TEEN understand that, but not the old heck Nut Case.

  • Robbie

    Yes, Founder Dr. Ben Rush said it way back then – the right of the people to health care must prevail over private interests.

    • anAmericanByChoice

      The right of the people to chose what kind of healthcare they want for themselves is counted among all other inalienable rights… or should!

      • Robbie

        But you were not one of the Founders. As it is Dr. Ben Rush WAS one of the Founders and he said that the right of the people to health care must prevail over private interests. Of course you are entitled to your current opinion but always keep in mind that that is in contradiction to at least one of the real Founders. Sorry about that.

        • WTS/JAY

          Wasn’t the good doctor a slave-owner, Robbie? Did that important detail escape your notice? Don’t you think it a bit of a contradiction that one who trumpeted human rights for all, was at the same time a slave-owner? Hmm…

  • US Army (retired)

    The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power…. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means, it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?

    Who wrote this?? — George Orwell in his book, “1984”

    Who seems to be using it as stated to force us to our knees?? The “National Socialist” Democrats. When the “National Socialist” Democrats achieve a literal death-grip power over the lives of all our people, that is when they also achieve their long-cherished dream of absolute power and a “Democratic” dictatorship. In this case a medical dictatorship because EVERYTHING can and WILL be tied to healthcare!