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Government Makes It Easier To Deem Critics, Tax Evaders, Hobbyists, Hotel Guests Terrorists

February 8, 2012 by  

Government Makes It Easier To Deem Critics, Tax Evaders, Hobbyists, Hotel Guests Terrorists

When you use your computer in a crowded café do you tend to shield the screen from the view of other patrons? Do you sometimes use programs that protect your machine from being hacked in public places? Have you ever traveled to a coffeehouse or café that wasn’t the closest to your area of residence to avoid being distracted by people you know as you work? When you purchase your $2 to $5 dollar coffee or specialty beverage do you opt for cash instead of credit or debit?

Well, you’re probably a terrorist.

According to a series of flyers that are distributed to local government agencies, news organizations and businesses throughout the Nation by the FBI and the Department of Justice, any number of innocuous activities can be reasonably interpreted as possible terror plotting. The flyers, emblazoned at the top with the words “Communities Against Terrorism” in bright red lettering, each have two prompts for private citizens — “What should I consider suspicious?” and “What should I do?” — followed by a series of bulleted suggestions.

Following are some of the locations and establishments targeted by the posters and the suggested “terrorists’ activities” for the venue:

Tattoo Shops

Possible terrorists might demand identity privacy, insist on paying in cash, make racist or religious comments, make anti-U.S. comments and include a group who request identical tattoos or people who inquire about the best places to conceal tattoos.

Hobby Shops

Possible terrorists may be people who demonstrate “unusual” interest in remote-controlled aircraft, want to learn how to fly large-scale remote control aircraft and purchase large quantities of paintball equipment among other things.

Hotels And Motels

A terrorist could be anyone who requests a specific room location, arrives with too much or too little luggage, refuses cleaning services, avoids the lobby when entering and leaving, parks vehicles in isolated areas and makes “unusual” inquiries about local landmarks, government or public facilities, among other things.

General Public

Many activities that journalists, citizen journalists and everyday citizens do in public places are considered red flags for terrorism in public spaces. Among them are taking notes, shooting “inappropriate” photographs or videos, drawing, using maps or avoiding social situations.

This is just a sampling of some of the information included on a few of the flyers. There are other flyers that are specialized for airports, fuel suppliers, construction sites, financial institutions, military surplus stores, etc. that can be viewed at While the posters do include some activities that likely would be red flags such as leaving personal belongings in public squares, many people have decried the agencies’ inclusion of normal activities.

Last summer, Prison Planet began reporting on a new Department of Homeland Security “If you See Something, Say Something” campaign that involved releasing a series of videos that portray white, middle-class Americans as the most likely terrorists.

The recent passage of the National Defense Authorization Act with its provisions designating the country a battlefield and all citizens potential terrorists combined with the recent push to encourage citizens to spy on one another represent a new trend that will likely affect all Americans. A report by The Associated Press names a new white collar form of extremism, “sovereign citizenry,” or more simply, people who evade Federal taxes and denounce Federal authority by renouncing citizenship.

Stuart McArthur, deputy assistant director of the FBI’s counterterrorism division, said in a press conference Monday that “sovereign citizens” are becoming an increasingly important focus for the agency.

“The thing about generally sovereign citizen extremists is that because their ideology just intrinsically deals with the rejection, complete rejection, of the constitutional authority of the United States or any other government for that matter … that when you have an encounter with law enforcement, we have seen that has a potential to go high and right very fast,” he told reporters.

The agency says that people in the sovereign citizen movement do not tend to gravitate to one specific part of the Nation and reside in nearly every State; there are also no age, gender and race indicators of typical followers of the movement.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • s c

    What is it with this effing administration? What kind of generational retard could believe that the above ‘guidelines’ will alert the presence of terrorists?
    The polite word for this insanity is TYRANNY. Does Obummer have plans for seeing how much of this utopian la la land crap we can tolerate? Isn’t it bad enough that we’re supposed to accept and endure perpetual wars?
    WHO gave anyone in this administration the moral or legal “RIGHT” to determine that anyone who poses a threat [real OR imagined] needs to be watched and arrested on a whim? Haven’t those sick, utopian bastards in Washington ever heard of PROFILING?
    Utopians, HOW do you justify such devolved minds? Is this the HOPE AND CHANGE psychosis you always wanted? The very idea that government has plans to conduct warfare on its own citizens should wake up even the worst diehard utopian slime.
    People, if this doesn’t bring America’s nut jobs out of the woodwork, nothing will. Call it ‘compassion’ or bread and circuses or even mankind perfected. Insanity is in full bloom in Washington.
    If they expect the American people to get on their knees and kiss the rumps of wannabe masters, our elected slime had better realize that when and if life gets too interesting, elected types might as well conclude that they’ll be ‘profiled’ the SAME way they try to profile the American people.
    NO ONE in office should expect immunity from an outraged and justifiably ‘equal justice’ mindset.
    America would get better leadership from grade school kids. Even children can recognize common sense and explain why galloping stupidity is dangerous. Washington CAN’T and WON’T.

    • DaveH

      I don’t think it’s just this administration. It seems to be most of Government. They’re close to the 10 yard goal line and they want to score that touchdown — Absolute Power.
      It’s becoming just like I used to read about the USSR — Spying on our neighbors, kids encouraged to rat their parents out to authorities, Government snooping on your every business, a constant barrage of Propaganda on the TV. Meanwhile Government People live fat and happy on our money.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Thankfully Daveh, our kids are grown and out of the dictatorship schooling. They even know how to think for themselves despite the indoctrination, Imagine that!__We don’t watch much TV either, news a little in the morning after that it’s movies or I read what I choose!

        • rosina

          Like you Angel, i rarely watch the news on TV which is SO biassed!
          I read foreign newspapers or France 24 (in English)and some Italian news. You would be surprised what you can learn there.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Rosina, I hear ya,I read the Daily Mail from the UK and The Telegraph. It seems Foreign news reporting has a different take on America!

      • wbliss

        That is BS and you know it. Every time somebody notices something screwy the liberals are doing in a wholesale way the first defense they throw up is to lie and say the conservatives are doing it to. The best defense is a good offense. Right? That way you don’t even have to have facts.

    • RockyRoad

      So this is how freedom dies….

      • Brian

        Only if we allow it.

        This is why our right to bear arms is protected by the Second Amendment.

        • Buckner

          Yes, but don’t count on the Second Ammendment OR the F!@#$%^ guvmint – they won’t help you, except to a FEMA CAMP! Keep that precious metal (lead) ready and your guns cleaned and oiled – ready for when revolution breaks out and it becomes necessary to give the government lead poisoning! Starting with the bastard occupying the white house…

      • Tallman Miller

        If you think this is new, and specific to the present administration, you don’t know our history. During WWI there was the same kind of hysteria against people of german extraction. During the depression we were told to watch out for and report anyone who might be a international trade unionist(socialist) and report them to the local sheriff. In WWII we put US citizens in concentration camps without due process and shot people for being “disloyal”. Lynch mob mentality was encouraged, and everyone was told to watch their neighbor. In the 1950′s Red Scare McCarthy hysteria people were denied work and black balled from the entertainment industry because they fit the profile of someone who might be a “commy”. The list goes on and on. This kind of oppression is nothing new, and is a characteristic of our system. You can’t lay it on Obama without indicting every administration in the last 100 years.

    • DaveR

      I agree with much of your post.

      Even when our federal government considered in their best light (although in my opinion there is little and decreasing reason to do so), due to the permeation of Political Correctness, people in our country are not allowed to focus and speak out on the fact that the roots of nearly all terrorist threats against USA citizens and property can be found in the Islamic scriptures and thus we refuse to focus upon people who practice and people to who are sympathetic to such doctrines such as killing the infidels wherever they may be found. As Walt Kelly, creator of the cartoon strip Pogo said: “We have seen the enemy and it is us.”

    • Jack Liberty

      Several years ago I read an article that contained reasons presented in courts as to why police stopped and searched suspected drug smugglers. They included: Getting off an airplane first so as to get out of the airport quickly; Getting off an airplane last to slip by tired surveilers; Getting off an airplane in the middle of the pack to blend in with the crowd. While driving, suspected drug smugglers would speed, run red lights, make illegal turns, etc. or conspicuously obey all traffic laws. Cops sure know how to zero in on real bad guys.

  • Angel Wannabe

    Agreed Dave and sc__Yes, Yes, those that use cash, believe in God, who are preppers (when our Grandparents & Parents had food pantries too),_then I’m probably on a Terrorist list as well!___
    Knock yourselves out Homeland Security, the only threat I or anyone like me, is us having the tenacity to keep on living despite the accusations you and the Regime make of us!__I think you people are drunk with power! You’ve lost the ability to detect friend from foe. Subsequently you corralled us all into one suspicious group and you figure, WE’RE ALL TERRORISTS NOW, everyone is under supicion until proven innocent. What a sad sack America has become and we let you!

    • Mom Henning

      Evil people think other people are evil too. Naturally our self-appointed masters view the populace as a threat. Trust no one, and they don’t trust each other either.

  • Patriot Missle

    It isn’t enough for our present day “Hope-N-Change” gov’t to want to achieve absolute power, they want world power. Does the “Barry” administration truely believe that Russia or China will let him have it all for himself?? These “See something..Say something” measures are just a beginning nudge to achieve power over the American people.

  • pete0097

    I guess that I am one that they will watch. I am really into RC planes, paintball, stocking food, and paying with cash. Although, I only do those things with and for myself and family on a day to day basis. These people are nuts. Now, they do have to be sensible. For example, a local hobby shop in Cocoa, FL sold 8 ft long, jet powered F-16′s. They would fly at about 200 mph and had a RC range of about 1 mile. The FBI told the owner to call them if anyone suspicios wanted one. A while later, an arab looking guy and his friend wanted one. He gave them a story that they accepted. he called the FBI, they sent a guy to help him out in the store, the arabs came back, they were on the wanted list, they went away with the FBI. An acting teacher of my kid worked at the Chamber of Commerce. 3 arab guys went in and asked about the local hand grenade plant. She said she know about it, but not where it was. They left. That night she saw their pictures on the wanted list. She called the FBI, they sounded interested, but she never heard from them again.

    • Brian

      One time these white guys went into Walmart and asked about ammo. Later their picture was seen on a wanted poster.

      Criminals come in all varieties.

  • Brenda

    There is so much wrong with this video. Our alphabet intellegence agencies have not been effective in the capture of the real terriorist so now they target citizens. Their list of suspicious activties is interesting. Taking inapporiate pictures or video, drawing, using maps, or avoiding social situations? A tourist will take pictures of various sites, an advertising company will use pictures, there is a myriad of reasons to take pictures and videos. Artist are always drawing sites or scenes to incorporate in their finished product. Using maps-this one would really get me in trouble as I am constantly using maps Many of these activities are purely innocent. No, the object is to use the same tactics as the USSR, Hitler, and other dictators to control the population.

    • s c

      Brenda, you get it. Now, try your luck in getting this website’s sheep, lemmings, robots and mentally- challenged useful idiots to understand it.

  • nick beck

    the population DESERVES what it tolerates. thank god for the 5% ers. when the sh hits the fan just maybe they will make the difference.

    • Dave

      I afraid we’re gonna need more than 5%

      • u.s. vet

        Just remember if everyone one of us takes out two of them, there are NOT enough of them.

  • ergoetu

    It is not that Sovereign Citizens reject the Constitution, most object to the government which does not follow the US Constitution as written by our forefathers. It is people like the FBI Deputy Assistant Director that scare me because they think they are above the law. Our entire police force is becoming militarized, not to protect the individual but to suppress individual rights that are guaranteed by the US Constitution.

  • ROGER, Canadian Libertarian

    We were warned by Ira Levine, Ayn Rand and George Orwell BUT because they wrote Fiction, they were ignored by the majority and NOW we are only beginning to pay the ultimate price of forgetting that the PRICE of FREEDOM is “Eternal Vigilance”

    Relax people, it can only get worse!!!

    • 45caliber

      Most fiction is only fiction because it hasn’t happened yet. But it isn’t hard to see where things are going to go if you bother to look with an open mind. That’s something not too many people want to have. They are afraid that the few thoughts they have might fall out.

      • Angel Wannabe

        45, Most people can’t or don’t wanna think outside the box!

  • Rennie

    I always prefer to pay for cash because it automatically budgets my spending (no cash = no spend). I suppose it makes you sound even more like a “terrorist” to suggest our government should fiscally discipline itself the same way: No funds = No spend. Logically, all these white male cops are probably the most probable terrorist suspects, they have guns, access and the “old boy network” to get away with things and I can’t recall the last time I heard one praise Obama. Especially if you go to some place down south like Paducah, KY.

    • DaveH

      They don’t like us using cash, because that makes it more difficult for them to snoop on our every movement.

      • 45caliber

        It is also not completely our movements they want to know. They want to know what we are buying, where we buy it, who we give money to, who we hire to do work for us, etc.

        We have a big problem with road cameras here in Texas. Houston has them as well as other cities. They tried to get them turned off in Houston but the city council stated that if they did, it would cost them about $15 million since they had a contract with whoever put them up. And they are for SAFETY! Really! Cross my heart! They would never EVER be used to track your movements!

        • Angel Wannabe

          45, as long as your in debt up to your azz and struggling from paycheck to paycheck, they lets ya alone. They got alot us right where they want us, up against it!

    • 45caliber


      You must be really far north! KY is SOUTH? Why, they still get snow there in winter! As far as we’re concerned here, they are the Northern South states. Not true South at all!

  • cawmun cents

    The question then becomes,what will I do when they come for my neighbor?
    Will I stand by and watch as they drag him away or shoot him?
    What are the implications if I do nothing?
    What will my neighbor do for me if same happens to me?
    Be careful and mindful of your answers to these questions folks.
    It may determine your fate in the future.Or maybe even today?
    The worlders have set the clock to ticking down the time you have left to enjoy the freedoms you have left as Americans.
    Like sands of the hourglass,so are the days of our lives.That isnt daytime soaps fols,its real time gubment at work.One that unlike the current situation you have,will bite your backside hard.
    Unless you turn back to the source of all things,you dont stand a chance in hell of stopping it.You can call for men to rise up,but none will usher forth.Only God can help you now.
    Will you finally hear the words He has spoken to His chosen ones?
    I am skeptical.
    But I am only fortunate that He called me to His mercy seat.
    I cannot boast of what I can do.Only of what He has done on my behalf.But the time is coming when you wont be able to hear His voice here any longer.You will only get a dial tone.That is because you let the answering machine get it one too many times.
    That my friends is a day when the hope of all men is lost.

    Father,let them hear Your Voice.
    Let them speak Your Name.
    Open their hearts and minds to You.
    Let them turn to You for their needs.
    In Your Name Lord,Amen.

    • eddie47d

      Excellent questions Cawmun Cents which we can all be confronted with.I’ve seen numerous police beating on the news and people just standing around. That says a mouthful. It shows the arrogance of the police,the passivity of the onlookers and the damning fear of arrest if you do interfere.

  • Steve

    I prefer to take a block of modeling clay into an RC store and ask for a model plane that can carry it and has a long range.

    See if that gets me on a list.

    • s c

      Mention that you regularly hear Saul Alinsky talking to you. You”ll get full immunity and you’ll be invited to the White House. You might even get a Nobel Peace Prize, Steve.

      • Raggs

        Bill Ayers….

        • Angel Wannabe

          Yepper raggs, it seems the more wrong you do, the more it’s celebrated__Sad and Twisted!

    • 45caliber


      If you are a veteran, have never voted for Oblama, don’t plan to vote for him, own a gun or two, have a Bible and attend chruch, speak out against the liberals in places like this, etc. you are ALREADY on their list.

  • danN

    I think it is time to clarify the word “Terrorist” and its application to the people of the U.S.
    According to Wikepedia “Terrorism is the systematic use of terror, especially as a means of coercion. In the international community, however, terrorism has no universally agreed, legally binding, criminal law definition.[1][2] Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or, ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians). Some definitions now include acts of unlawful violence and war. The use of similar tactics by criminal organizations for protection rackets or to enforce a code of silence is usually not labeled terrorism though these same actions may be labeled terrorism when done by a politically motivated group.
    The word “terrorism” is politically and emotionally charged,[3] and this greatly compounds the difficulty of providing a precise definition. Studies have found over 100 definitions of “terrorism”.[4][5] The concept of terrorism may itself be controversial as it is often used by state authorities (and individuals with access to state support) to delegitimize political or other opponents,[6] and potentially legitimize the state’s own use of armed force against opponents (such use of force may itself be described as “terror” by opponents of the state).[6][7]
    Terrorism has been practiced by a broad array of political organizations for furthering their objectives. It has been practiced by both right-wing and left-wing political parties, nationalistic groups, religious groups, revolutionaries, and ruling governments.[8] An abiding characteristic is the indiscriminate use of violence against noncombatants for the purpose of gaining publicity for a group, cause, or individual.[9]”
    So…I ask you… is it us (the American people) or them (the chosen ones)?

    • 45caliber


      We need a good definition of “terrorism”. Too many government people are using it indiscriminately. “If you do anything we don’t like, you are a terrorist!”

  • Robert

    Well folks, it is time to look up for our redemption draws near. No, not from what you think. Redemption from what is coming that can not be stopped according to God’s book of Revelation, Daniel, Ezekiel and others. Were those who perished in the 9/11 attack greater sinners because of the attack? No says the Lord God to you and me: unless we repent we shall also likewise perish. There is only one way to escape. When we believe the record (scriptures) that God the Father gave of His Son (Jesus)and whosoever shall call upon Jesus shall be saved. Saved from what? Saved from the wrath to come. Saved from the Day of the Lord when He shall rain down fire from Heaven upon ungodly man. God says that the Angels in Heaven rejoice when one sinner repents. Will you, and have your name written in Jesus book of life so that when the books of your life are opened in Heaven when you stand before the King of Kings and Lord of Lords – behold your sins have been blotted out by the shed blood of Jesus, God the Son, who loved you and me and gave his life a ramson for us. and we enter into the presence of Christ Jesus our Lord forever more. Even so come Lord Jesus.

    • danN

      Well Robert, that was a thought provoking comment, full of great ideas and direction for saving our once great country. Not!
      Why not just tell us to lay down and rollover, for we are all doomed….as the 2000+ year old, edited for political reasons, document says so!

      • Mom Henning

        Is this religious terrorism? It sure is a fear based message, and is unlike the Grace and Love of the God of my understanding. Faith is having a good opinion of the Supreme Being. If it doesn’t sound like Good News, you haven’t heard the Gospel yet. Some people twist the Scriptures to their own destruction. These are a codebook for believrs, and will meet you at your own level.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Robert, Sadly repentance is something a lot of folks don’t think of. People have gotten so far away from Christ that its mind boggling.
      I feel bad for those who look in the mirror and only see themselves as the ultimate Diety when God is the only saving grace._-We’ve told God to get out of everything from our schools to our lives in general, I’m afraid he’s listened to the pleas to get away!
      Through it all, Thankfully I still, feel his presence and hand.

      • Brian

        God should be in your heart, not a building.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Thanks Brian, I wondered how it would be before the big mouthed paid shills showed up, and started causing trouble and you didn’t disappoint me :)..Just for the Record, I don’t play well with idiots and God WILL BE any place we invite him to be.

  • Alex Frazier

    The one thing we still presently have that China, Nazi Germany, and the USSR didn’t … guns.

    As things stand, they have made it a crime to protest in a place or way the government disapproves of. Citizens are targeted as terrorist suspects for innocuous and innocent everyday activities. The United States has been declared part of the battlefield in the war on terror. Terrorist suspects, including American citizens, can now be arrested and indefinitely detained without charges, assistance of counsel, a speedy trial, grand jury indictment, confrontation of witnesses, or any other due process of law. Our phones can be tapped, our bank accounts looked at, investigated, and seized, and our cars lojacked. And the government has stationed 20,000 troops on American soil.

    I’m not one who is usually hardcore on the conspiracy theory concepts. Although I keep my eyes open and don’t fall prey to naiveté, I like to believe that our government, made up of Americans, is still pro-America to the greater extent. However, when you put all these factors in place together and consider a military presence that has been stationed here in the event of domestic turmoil over economic volatility, the de facto revocation of our 4th, 5th, and 6th amendment rights by declaring America to be the battlefield, and the government’s newly seized power to spy on, accuse, and detain American citizens without due process, we are looking at a full scale military state. We aren’t moving towards a police state. We have already become one.

    The only remaining steps are to disarm the people and establish martial law.

    The steps our government has followed come practically straight out of the history books. We are repeating Nazi Germany.

    So the question is, how many of us are mentally prepared to resist when the decree comes down from Congress that the 2nd amendment is repealed? How many are prepared to forcefully resist when they come to take your guns? It’s no easy thing to consider. When they come, and you resist, there are only four possible outcomes. 1) You shoot the cops. 2) The cops shoot you. 3) The cops overcome and arrest you. 4) You give in and surrender your freedom. Although, for number 4 you always have the option, of course, of burying some firearms and amunition somewhere and surrendering a decoy firearm. That leaves you open to join an organized resistance at a later date when one finally forms.

    In either case, “… being necessary to the preservation of a free state,” I strongly encourage everyone to purchase a firearm if they don’t already have one. Hide it well. And prepare yourself mentally for whatever courage that might be demanded of you when the government plays its final card.

    And by the way, this patriotic post makes me a terrorist by their definition. They can kiss my red, white, and blue dong.

    • Raggs

      Alex… any of us here that protest the tyranny of the government are on that list.
      And I agree with you that everyone needs to be armed.

    • Brian

      From where I stand there are only two options: Liberty or death.

  • reaching freedom

    Time to wake up. I have said it before and here it is again. We lost the right to be sovereign citizens during the US Civil War. Yes, when the Constitution was suspended by President L. The current pres considers that being a great man. Read history…it is written by the winner. Then go find the truth, it is out there.

    There are two ways to make a country, Build it up or tear it down. This administration, as all administrations since the Civil War, are currently tearing it down. Now don’t point fingers and say I am racist. I do not believe in slavery. But why does this administration want to make us slaves?

    And by the way, we on the web, are already being watched by the black box in the hands of big brother. Why else would we have to submit our identification before any thing gets posted? Free speech…gone a long time ago.

    • 45caliber


      What is a slave?

      A slave is someone who is forced to give up at least part of his labor without payment to someone else who can live on those profits.

      Doesn’t that sound like the present taxpayer?

  • RichE

    The list sounds like something from Jeff Foxworthy. You may be a terrorist if… you don’t require room service.

  • Raggs

    If you don’t vote for king oblama you are a terrorist.

  • Angel Wannabe

    What say us terrorists join Hillsdale College in a FREE ten week crash course on the Constitution, it begins Feb 20th. My Family and I signed up last night!__While we encourage or pith and moan to eachother here, we have to keep our chin up folks, and besides we’re never too old to learn something new!

    • rosina

      Also Angel, sign up for their monthly paper IMPRIMIS.
      IT IS FREE.

      • Angel Wannabe

        rosina, I recieve there posts all the time too, along with Heritage and here Personal Liberty. I also do G, Beck and alot of newsites, I like to stay inform and learn something to boot. :)

        • DaveH

          Don’t forget the website that Flashman fears the most —

          • Angel Wannabe

            DaveH, I refer alot to mises dave and your posts as well, your always informative. I have alot of blogs I read every day, it takes the better part of two hours to go through them all as I’m sure you and most folks do here!

    • 45caliber


      Just be careful to carry. A similar group in FL a few years ago were arrested for this. Those teaching it spent time in prison. They were supposedly trying to cause trouble.

      • Angel Wannabe

        45, I guess I’m not following you 45, why would anyone shut down a free ten week course on the study of the Constitution, On Hillsdales site?
        Please clarify…I wasn’t proposing of starting a group if that is what your implying….I mentioned the family and I signed up to learn more about it!

      • 45caliber

        A few years ago in FL there was a free Constitution class going on. The government came in, arrested the two giving the class and marked everyone else up as possible terrorists. The two giving the class went to jail for about ten years for “harassment”.

    • Jeep

      Hey Angel! Maybe we should invite Justice Ginsberg to join in that class. Apparently her knowledge of the Constitution is lacking…

      • Angel Wannabe

        Jeep, Boy howdy ain’t that the truth, she’s one of SCOTUS’s that thinks the Constitution is worn out and the (correct me if I’m wrong) South African Constitution of sorts was worth looking into?

  • ranger hall

    Welcome to the new World Order. Sorry its been here for a Long time, Just keeps getting worst.
    Over 80% of our Policing Depts and People spend their time Reading,Listening, and putting American Citizens on Lists. Nothing New, been doing this for as long as i can remember.
    Check and understand the real history of the world, Even in the Bible.
    One world Power that Controls all the Money,All the Food, All the Water,All the Medical, Everything People need to Survive.
    EVEN Now the Govt is Forceing People to put their money into banks or Debit cards. Govt workers and Social Security People or any one that draws Govt Money. Soon the Govt will require Companys to deposit a Workers Wages into banks and Debit Cards. TOTAL CONTROL OF YOUR MONEY AND YOUR SPENDING HABITS.
    Also when it comes to owning anything, Your House your Car. YOU do not OWN. You are allowed to pay for them,pay for Insurance,PAY taxes,PAY REG. Fees. PAY none of the above and see WHO OWNS them.

    • Brian

      Ummm, the government is not forcing us to keep our money in banks or use debit cards. My employer puts my pay directly onto my account every other Friday morning and every Friday at lunch I withdraw it and take it home.

      • TML

        I think he/she means ‘force’ in terms of the government targeting people who ‘use cash’ as potential “terrorist”, thus if you don’t want to be labeled such, you are theoretically forced to use banks. Not too surprising really when you think about the inflation caused by printing paper money without being backed by anything… with banks and debit cards your money is essentially just ghostly shadows on the screen that can be ceized at will.

      • Alex Frazier

        Brian, the banking institutions are trending towards a paperless monetary system. A single bill of paper money costs approximately 6¢ to produce between the average costs of the specialized paper and the specialized ink. Digital dollars are free. With the elimination of paper money, there will no longer be any cost associated with the production of paper money. Nor would there be any risk of a run on the bank. In the event of a crisis, money can be instantaneously transferred from branch to branch, from the Fed to the banks, etc. The banks can also readily lend money on the fractional reserve system and maintain their reserves while having no reserves. It’s a grand realization of the domestic money fraud scheme. That’s why banks encouraged people to get debit cards. That’s why banks charge you a fee if you deposit too much cash money.

        On the government’s end, it’s actually cheaper to issue a single plastic card than it is to issue a weekly or monthly paper check. So in terms of cost efficiency, I don’t actually have a problem with the government making its payments electronically.

        However, since the banks are ultimately in control, I expect that it’s just a matter of time before someone whispers in the right ear and brings about legislation eliminating the use of paper money altogether.

        Until then, I will continue to buy things with cash.

    • DaveH

      The Government will do whatever it takes to Propagandize you to follow them. For those who that doesn’t work on, they will pass as many restrictive laws as they can get away with, until ultimately they are big enough to show their true colors and take total control.
      They are simply the Biggest Gang in the land, and we the blindered sheeple have let them get that way over the last 100 years.
      The Left votes for their pet laws — the Government Grows bigger.
      The Right votes for their pet laws — the Government Grows bigger.
      They have simply made fools of the rest of us.
      For Individual Freedom, Personal Responsibility, Limited Government, Free Markets, and PEACE — Vote Libertarian!

  • http://personallibertydigest Gottaplenty

    Sounds like Joe Stalin running the show again, and lots of followers like Flashy and his ilk that would welcome that

    • s c

      Gottaplenty, ‘f’ hasn’t had his head on straight ever since he was allowed to be born. It’s entirely possible that the czar who wants us to use retrograde abortions may be prophetic.
      There are only so many ways to eliminate vermin. If it takes retrograde abortions, maybe it should be on the master list. If that sounds a bit harsh, consider what we have to lose by tolerating those who won’t hesitate to ‘remove’ those who refuse to give up freedom.

  • ranger hall

    Lts see.. Down the Road we will Have a National ID Card.
    Down the road we will have to use Credit Cards for all our Transactions, NO CASH. By requiring this the Govt can keep track of all aMERICANS DAY and NITE.Where you GO and what you SPEND,and what you Spend it On.
    CONTROL is dished out in many ways. ALL designed to control and keep Honest Americans BROKE and DEFENCELESS.Look at the Cost of FOOD,ELEC,MEDICAL,FUEL,WATER.And the COSTS to SUPPORT the GOVT. Even the cost of WEAPONS and AMMO.Everything People need to Survive.
    IN a Bad Economy why do these Items keep on the RISE, And Jobs and Income from most Americans GO DOWN, The only ONES cost cutting are the American People. WONDER WHY.

    • DaveR

      Down the road? It’s long been here. In my 60+ years of life I have repeatedly found that your SS# is already your primary national ID. You cannot get a driver’s license without in my state. You cannot bank without it. You cannot have a brokerage account without it. And you cannot get the Cleveland Clinic to honor or even submit a claim to your pre-existing medical insurance company without first giving them your SS#, even if you have never had any employment! And any Medicare or substitute insurance program also requires your SS#, and Medicare uses your SS# as the primary ID on your Medicare Card.

      • lkar

        I call BS. Illegal aliens sem to get by. But then it maybe that they use a bogus SS# or a stolen SS#. Either way, they seem to get by!

  • Charles

    The Illinois state government is a terrorist organization, engaged in extortion. They are demanding payment from people who neither lived nor worked in the state. When faced with demands to produce evidence to support their illegal activities, they just ignore them. Even Quinn has refused to stop the crimes.

  • Americanfreedom70

    Take heart true Patriots, you are not alone. Unfortunately I believe it will take a total collapse (hopefully a catestrophic event such as a EMP generated by a CME) to weed out the weak. I do not say this lightly, but I am afraid the days of this being acomplished peacably are about over. Until we get back to the strong surviving, and the weak whom are dependant on the “system” to provide for them no longer being an issue, we will not be able to cry as loudly as they can. Nor as often. Its just not part of who we are. I care about my fellow man, but even my belief in God has never given me what I wanted. My God has only given me the skills, and blessed me with good health to be able to achieve my goals on my own. “God helps those who help themselves”. I do not care to harm anyone. But by the same token I expect others to leave me alone as well. Too often I hear people saying “You can’t tell me what to do, but I get to tell you what to do”. The double standards are astounding. Some of the same people who look to the constitution for protection under one article of the Constitution, seek to abolish other articles of the Constitution for their own means. ENOUGH!

    • Alex Frazier

      Interestingly enough, I was watching An American President tonight, and the president gives a big speech near the end. He makes a big to-do about how defending freedom and the constitution sometimes means that we have to tolerate the babblings of someone whose opinion makes us sick. Or how freedom means that if someone wants to burn the flag, they should be allowed to. And then he goes on to talk about fixing our crime problems by getting rid of the assault weapons and handguns. lol. I guess in his flag-burned-smoke delerium, he forgot that those unpopular handguns are just as protected by the constitution as the belligerently voiced opinion of a moron.

  • blackwingA520

    The Federal Government and especially THIS Administration is the biggest terrorist group around. These people are corrupt and evil to the core. ABO (Anybody but Obummer) in November.

  • sancheleezy

    Isn’t it sad that the nunbskulls in Congress (not all of them—of course) but the uninformed majority (mob rule) of them that don’t read thoroughly every bill that they eventually vote on. We need a rule that states that unless every bill is read and understood by legislators, then no vote will be taken on said bill. Especially after the non-honorable Nancy Pelosi, made the comment that “we will find out what is in the bill after we vote on it”. Then we have Patriot Acts (1 and 2) and to add insult to injury, The National Defense Authorization Act, all of which are totally unconstitutional. But do these clowns in Congress care ? Of course not!!!!Unbelievable.

    • Raggs

      First off we would have to “elect” those that can read and judging by what we have I would say not one of them have more than a fifth grade education… Remember even Jethro Bodine at least knew how to siffer…

      • s c

        Isn’t it ironic that America would be better off if we had a bunch of Jethro Bodines? Most of the people in Congress are so braindead, so hungry for power or change at ANY cost that it makes no difference to them how much Americans suffer.
        They shouldn’t been allowed to think that we work for them. THAT’S when we should shown them one or more of the cures for tyrants. Now, it may be inevitable that we’ll have to remind them, and it will be harder to turn America around and get back to a government that works for the American people.
        All those years of freedom. What a waste.

        • GrayStroke

          No the are NOT BRAIN-DEAD! Stop being a DUPE!!! Please stop, that is the secret of their success, our demise and loss of liberties and why they continue to stay in power. Please study. Over 95% of Democrats are lawyers. Don’t get offended OK, if you’re one don’t wear the shoe! My point is this YES, they are that wicked and yes the Hegelian dialect is openly used on us and the majority of the conservative talk shows play along and lead us into thinking they are all stupid or incompetent. Nothing could be further from the truth. We are intentionally being gamed by both sides along with the conservative talk shows. Now really do you think Rush will openly speak of trillions of our tax dollars given out to European Jewish bankers? Nope remember…FCC??? License??? yeah that’s the leash used to control the game.

          I would love to share the levels of wickedness that exists in our political system but many here would shut down. No not trying to insult anyone it’s just that after 22 years of my own research what I’ve learned within the last month just about took it out of me, it was way too tough to handle….as one actor said I can’t handle the truth well dang in this case he was right! Tragedy and Hope is heavy scholastic reading but has the greatest depth of credibility due to the author’s bio. But there are many other books that will show you that NO, they are not incompetent! They are many things but dumb and incompetent is not one of them! God Bless…

          • Alex Frazier

            I believe that some of them are smart, but I don’t buy into what you’re saying. Not when there are congressmen in office who think an island can capsize. In other instances, you have people like McCarthy who has a hard on for gun control. If she had her way, they would collect them all tommorrow. So her real agenda isn’t a one world order. Her agenda is to get rid of guns. And her direct motivation for that is Brady, who got shot. Then there are the tards who think global warming is real, the biggots who think every piece of legislation has to have something to do with giving blacks or gays more rights than everyone else, and the socialists who sincerely believe that bigger government is the correct solution to our ever growing problems.

            I just don’t buy that it’s a government conspiracy. They are doing what they do for the reasons they do them, and the results of their compounded good intentions are trending towards an inevitable conclusion. That’s all that I believe is really happening. It happens to every government in every country. The history books show the truth of it. It always starts the same way. The same general steps are made to answer various problems. And they result in the same end.

    • 45caliber

      sanche …

      The reason they don’t read the bills is a lack of time. After all, those parties they attend, the parties they are organizing, and the reelection time must come first! Priorities are important! That doesn’t leave all that much time to actually read the bills.

      • Alex Frazier

        Actually, they don’t read the bills because they are 2000 pages long.

  • 45caliber

    Spying on one another and reporting it to the authorities is one of the major marks of a police state. I’m afraid I would get very irate to learn someone is spying on me so he can report what I do.

    • DaveR

      Do you have a cell phone? It probably has GPS and unless you pull the battery, it can be used to track you. Have a recent model car? It may have GPS, too, and those cannot be turned off. Use a PC — each PC has a unique identifier that is recorded by the sites you visit as well as your service provider. Use Google? They track and save every key stroke made from your PC. Use any credit cards? In short, you are already being very closely tracked. And if you live in Ohio, your state government is selling information about you from their driver’s license registration database.

      • Angel Wannabe

        DaveR, and if you’ve written your Congress & Represetatives, with a less than happy note, B*tching about what they’ve done to this Country, they’ll follow you too, been there did that!

        • Alex Frazier

          Oh? I’d be interested in hearing more about that.

  • 45caliber

    Let’s not misuse the name “terrorist” even if the government does!

    A terrorist is someone that tries to create enough fear in the innocent population to allow the terrorist to control them. He does this by physical attacks against other innocent people.

    It is not someone who commits a standard crime or disagrees with the existing government.

    • Jeep

      “A terrorist is someone that tries to create enough fear in the innocent population to allow the terrorist to control them.” That kinda’ sounds like the daily calls from the White House breifing room…you know, calls like, the rich are out to get your money, the right-wingers want to throw your mother off a bridge, Republicans want your grandma eating cat food, etc. Hmmm…makes you wonder who the terrorists really are…

      • 45caliber

        No, it is more like the calls from the various agencies that state, “If you disagree with Oblama, you are a terrorist. If you are against Equal Opportunity, you are a terrorist. And if you are a terrorist, we shall arrest you and put you away without a trial the rest of your life.”

        You know, the recent NDAA action, Homeland Security’s comments on what a terrorist is, etc.

    • DaveH

      They used to call them Criminals.
      But calling them Criminals didn’t allow the Government to suspend their 4th and 5th Amendment rights.

      • Alex Frazier

        And 6th.

        The 4th gives us the right to privacy. The 5th gives us the right to a grand jury indictment for a capital or infamous crime, and not to be deprived of liberty without due process of law. The 6th gives us the right to a speedy and public trial, to know the charges, to confront witnesses, and to have the assistance of counsel.
        And since terrorist suspects are being tortured with modern day methods like waterboarding, anyone taken under suspicion of terrorist activities will now be subject to cruel and unusual punishment in violation of our 8th amendment.

  • MNIce

    Just to illustrate how far off the beam the government can be, recently had a link to a piece by an FBI agent telling how to identify people likely to turn murderously violent. Some of it appeared plausible (e. g., unreasonable anger reactions, out of proportion to the situation), but she lost her credibility when she claimed deer heads or other evidence of sport hunting in the home are a danger sign. And, surprise! – she also labeled having guns “on display” or discussion about firearms as a warning sign. Some of the sanest people I know are hunters and firearms hobbyists.

    • Angel Wannabe

      MNIce__Good Lord, well then I’ve been a Terrorist all my life and I wasn’t aware of it then, my Dad was an avid Hunter, Bows, arrows and Guns all over, I learned how to use them correctly too!

    • GrayStroke

      This observation you made is part of the mass Psy-Ops programming that is taking place 24-7 via all forms of media and implanted into the sub-conscious. Play this over and over again and it WILL change the public perception of normalcy which is what we grew in. Hunting, fishing self-sufficiency is anathema to the desire of large government central planning and control. Thus the constant demonizing of any trait that would reinforce individualism.

      Hooray for those that have awoken and to those that are now in shock of the reality now waking up….good for you all now keep digging it only gets better IF you know how the last chapter ends…..!Book# 66 from the AKJV !

  • TML

    I’m surprised they don’t include machinists, and people with their own tools and such, as potential terrorists. Virtually anyone who has a Bridgeport manual mill and lathe in their garage, and a bit of ingenuity, can make guns, weapons, parts, molds, and anything else you can find at a hobby store to build remote control airplanes and can acquire supplies by discrete non-public non-traceable means to do it (depending on how much they start from ‘scratch’).

    Crap, I guess I shouldn’t give ‘em any ideas, huh? lol

    • Angel Wannabe

      TML< ya don't have to give them any ideas_Wednesday Nights on Glenn Beck "Independance USA" is a new realist Survival show, h*ll last week they made cannon, it was pretty cool too and it fired a healthy shot!

    • Alex Frazier

      You didn’t give any new ideas, so no worries. I already thought of building my own guns if the need arose. As you say, a lathe and a few other minor machines is all one really needs. If you take the time while the guns are still legal to take one apart and diagram the parts, you can reconstruct one later as needed.

  • ATW

    Alex, your statement esp. caught our attention: it echoes the scenario of the famous/infamous, though very msm spiked/repressed, “Combat Arms survey” of 1993-94 at Camp Pendleton and 29 Palms. Most scary and shocking is the renowned “Question 46″ and its answers. Plse see the reports of the story esp.

    “Deja vu all over again,” except maybe it’s never gone away?

    • Alex Frazier

      It’s disturbing, but not unexpected. History has shown that the state military of almost every country has been more than willing to obey orders and act against its own people. There can only be one dictator, but there’s no such thing as a one man dictatorship.

  • brianS

    you have nailed it. if everyone sat down and thought about what is happening, they would be shocked. WELL DONE.

  • Jr

    I fully support the Constitution 100%. The question is, does Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And if not, why aren’t they at her door?????

    • GrayStroke

      She’s a supporting act of the “Apology Tour” sponsored by the Commie in Chief! ha…

  • gnafu

    Fear Mongoring – Intimidation – all a part of “control the people.” No Thanks! I don’t want to buy any Marxist Crapola today. The Federal Government knows locations of Terrorist Camps in U.S. Someone of high authority put them in place. Go after those heathens and leave good citizens alone. I wondered why NDAA suspended habeas corpus and civil liberties which tromped on the 10th Amendment; and Obama signed the piece of trash. Now, it all comes together. With that piece of paper, Our Liberty is lost, folks! If individual States are not fighting this law, they should be.

  • GrayStroke

    Please allow me to invite you folks to our local talk show host that HAS NOT yet been told to tone it down.

    His name is Michael Berry. You can find him on iHeart radio also and on line live and pod casts.

    He hits upon these issue AND allows all liberals to show their true colors and nails it many times. I listen daily and will listen for a trend that reveals he has bee reigned in.
    Oh and please call his show he has callers from coast to coast and it helps us all to awaken many more!!!


  • jim capy

    china will rule the world, when europe and the usa collapse. they are prospering while we wither away!

  • Deerinwater

    “According to a series of flyers that are distributed to local government agencies, ” ??????????????????????????????????

    Who, when, where?

    I have read, that at any party, 5% of the people eat 45% of the nuts!

    Sammy, ~ pure fluff, with a dash of “fear factor”

    We do enjoy playing the “Fear” card.

    But that said, some people are mindful that “Information” has great value and can cause you grief & great harm in the wrong hands.

    While some people are oblivious to such matters.

    The more powerful one becomes, the more responsibility they carry, the more ambiguity becomes necessary.

    There is a reason for this, some understand it and some just don’t get it and never will!

    Some people are quick to place their hopes and dream in a leaky bucket. While some wouldn’t allow you to carry their bucket.

  • Emmett Smith

    The NDAA, as passed, specifically does no apply to citizens, legal aliens, or affect existing laws. Fiends who are foreign citizens on vacation here could be seen looking at a foreign website, suspected, reported, and whisked off to Guantanamo and never seen from again.

  • Jay

    Politicians are nothing more then administrators masquerading as public servants. Elected by the ignorant, answerable to the global banking cartel!

  • Elizabeth Miller

    Time to reread 1984 by George Orwell, folks.

  • John

    The Government won’t have to kill you (offensive word removed), you’ll all be busy talking each other to death. blah blah blah, bunch of talking sheep! Think you got what it takes to look a person in the eye and fill them full of lead? The time for talk is over. So what are you going to do?………nothing that’s what!

  • http://none Elz

    reading a lot of the above comments…..makes me feel sorry for America. Yes, we have terrorists here, some native and some imported.I see it appears most are in a state of paranoia, maybe worse. The terrorists are simply stupid people. Education is the key, it starts with quality parenting. The reason government has grown is the ability to spend out the gazoomie, so let’s have a balanced budgement amendment, one which allows no deficit spending by not just the federal, but also, state governments. No more 30 year bonds, either. Live within our means. Disallow payments to anyone from past debts as well. That way, no one will ever “loan” the united states any more money. Disallow real estate taxes. Have every citizen pay a per capita tax, an equal per capits tax, first for federal, then state. No more “local” taxes of any type because the ability to tax is the ability to destroy. Our servants will start trying the justify the incredible squandering they do. Why should we let half the population get away with a free ride? That entire concept is incredibly irresponsible. MAKE EVERYBODY PAY WITH A CURRENT ACCOUNTS POLICY MEANING NO MORE DEBT. If you don’t pay, you don’t vote, that’s what we need. At one time, only property owners could vote. Now we have freeloaders crying for more, while taxing and regulating the achievers out of existence. Only half of the country responsible for 100%? Absolutely insane. No jobs? Learn to run your own business, and compete with the rest of us. Quit coddling losers, and in the worst case, absolutely hopeless bums. Only these things will cure America. I support Ron Paul, but not 100%. The drug legalization is where I disagree……weed use causes paranoia…..we have an excess of that today, and I mean both weed smoking, and the resulting paranoia. Early studies while Carter was president showed also, an inability of kids to learn after about the age of 12, as easily as non-weed-smokers kids could learn. The age most kids rebel from parental authority is 13-17. Can yo see the writing on the wall? These kids will never be independent critical thinkers. Look around you and you will see this very clearly, it is happening with the younger generation. If the Indians who originally had this country would have not used the peace pipe with peyote, most of we americans would not exist. We are now also seeing the results of tobacco use being a superior mentality resultance. Study after study shows this. It’s a shame it does lung damage!!! look at almost every great leader in modern history, Kennedy, Eisenhower, Werner VonBraun, Churchill, FDR…..all used tobacco regularly. Think about getting to the moon without a computer today…..VonBraun was probably the greatest genius of history. Don’t forget Einstein, and Henry Ford as well. We are all being dumbed down by an overbearing and demeaning government. VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE the bums out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • paul

    How about the counterterrorism department of the fbi represent we the people and arrest Obama and Holder for fast and furious fast and furiously.

  • Neil Swan

    I’ve seen in the newspaper about sovereign citizens shooting cops. And religious right nuts shooting abortion doctors. That certainly makes them terrorists.


  • FWO21

    God put us on this green earth, not them. God is our leader, not them. God gave us the water, the food, the blue skies, the wind, the oil and these AH are charging us to use every bit of it and it doesn’t even belong to them. I am not against paying my fair share but I get tired of paying for those who won’t just so they can have their drugs or whatever.

    In my state, they have what is called a “Discover Pass” where you have to “pay” to use the land God gave us. This means I can’t even go into a state park and have a picnic without first paying my $10.00 just for a few hours. What happened to “Land of the free, home of the brave”?

    And they need to stop letting terrorists into this country. They keep on letting people that are trying to get away from war in their country and who is to say a few alien terrorists aren’t coming in with them?

  • martin fee

    this is disgusting


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