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GOP turns increasingly against Sanford

July 6, 2009 by  

GOP turns increasingly against Sanford  Even as Alaska Governor Sarah Palin has resigned her post, the Republicans are faced with another headache in the form of South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford’s political future.

In what may be a sign of a growing disaffection of the party with the governor, Attorney General Henry McMaster – himself a Republican and a gubernatorial candidate in 2010 – has asked the state law enforcement division to review the government travel records to ensure public funds have not been misused.

Late month, Sanford made headlines after disappearing during the Father’s Day weekend in what turned out to be a secret trip to Argentina to see his mistress.

Since Sanford’s admission, there have been calls for him to step down, with at least three Republicans in the South Carolina state legislature suggesting he should resign.

The Associated Press has also reported Glenn McCall, one of the state’s Republican National Committee members, is planning a rally at the statehouse on Thursday aimed at pressuring Sanford out of office.

Earlier this year, Sanford was involved in a fiscal controversy after he refused to accept $700 million in federal stimulus money that was set aside for his state, arguing it would bring a crushing debt burden on future generations.

Following a legal action, the Supreme Court of South Carolina ruled he had to accept the money.

In April, South Carolina had the third-highest unemployment rate in the country at 11.5 percent.

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  • Gerald P Gephart Sr

    RIGHT -WING RAG EMAIL…..YOUR POLL IS A LIE!!!……2008 ELECTION WAS THE REAL POLL!!!……20 YEARS OF DEFICIT SPENDING BY REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATIONS……CLINTON’S 8 YEARS WAS THE ONLY TIME IN THE LAST 28 YEARS, THAT THERE WAS NO DEFICIT SPENDING!!!…NOW YOUR LYING POLL IS PLACING ALL THE BLAME ON CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.

    WHERE WAS YOUR DEFICIT SPENDING ANGER DURING THOSE 20 YEARS?

    • paul s

      great logic.. let me see if I follow.. because republicans have previously borrowed some money in the past ,(albeit billions), it’s okay for Obama and his socialist cronies in the senate and congress to borrows TRILLIONS to redefine AKA (TRANSFORM) America into a welfare nation .
      For the record Clinton had a budget surplus not a true surplus.. and that was only in the years where we had a Republican controlled congress lead My former speaker Gingrich and republican led tax cuts and wefare reform that truly stimulated the economy.

      But I agree all caps proves your point….
      do you really want to steal my money .. remember I am a right wing nut with guns and a bible…

      • Patricia

        Reply to Paul S.
        Guns and a Bible . . . please explain how Christians justify guns with their Bible in hand. Love one another as I have loved you — does that sound familiar?

        • http://nocrud.com BobL

          Isn’t it strange how Liberals and Liberal sympathizers always quote the Bible when they have a weak argument. Where it comes to the Barney Franks of the world, where it comes to adultery in their own camps, they go blind. Not blind for justice, blind for pretending to ignore the sin when it appears on their doorstep.

          However, want to talk about Bibles and Guns? How about David and Goliath? Want to say it is wrong to protect ourselves and what is ours? As for even turning the other cheek, as many Liberals try to throw up to Bible-believers, show me where in the Bible it says we are supposed to allow people to hit that other cheek… Sure, give ‘em a chance to regret attacking and be slow to anger but offering the other cheek to have someone hit it is not the message of the Bible. Even if they are forgiven, it is no license for them to take advantage of it to strike out again.

          Too many people conveniently read the Bible seeking words to excuse their own corruption and totally miss the message of the Bible. The Founding Fathers were the early Christians in our country and I see no hint that they were willing to kneel at the feet of any people, thus we had a revolution.

          Should Christians walk the street with the Bible in one hand and a gun in the other? Is this the drastic picture Liberals want to paint Bible-believing Christians? Sure! Especially when it is just one more rock in the basket they use to try to take away everyone’s guns. Whatever is convenient, right? Yep… And when it comes to point to them using the Bible as a standard, they will quickly cry foul. Why, then, are the even afforded any meritorious attention?

        • Morris Monkus

          Sounds as if you have read a little Scripture. Keep reading and you will figure this out yourself.

        • Chris

          There is a reason why Jesus commanded his followers to sell their coats if they had too, to buy a sword and be armed. It is to protect them from the Godless, possibly you, as you seem to be a member of the Godless left. In today’s world it would be “Go and buy a gun.” That is why Peter was armed to in the garden to cut off the guard’s ear. A Christian is not forbidden to kill, only to murder. Our forefathers were Christian and they had no problem killing what was then the left; the Kings army

        • Peter Melville

          Christians have a right to protect their life, something the government is supposed to do for us. By the time the police arrive, they are only there to investigate the murder, not prevent it. Protecting yourself and your family is not the opposite of love.

      • HopeforAmerica

        No… Obama is having to spend Billions To Clean Up the Unprecedented, Titanic Messes of the Republicants and Bush Administration!!! Obama is also looking out for the disappearing middle class after the Repubs the past 28 yrs have fostered the wealthy and corporate America, and continue to spew Lies* and False Propaganga !* It’s funny How you neocons and repubs haven’t minded the ten’s of BILLIONS of Corporate Welfare to Oil companies who drill on public land, evade paying their full share of royalties for drilling on public land, pollute the Hell out of our air, water, and land, and then have the audacity to charge the public skyrocketing prices for gas and heating! Yes, we Need a stronger Cap & Trade bill which will fuel our economy with Jobs!!! jAnd I will be the first in line to buy an American made NO Gasoline plug-in or biodiesel car when they finally do come out. I no longer want to be a slave to oil or gas companies!!!!

        Thank god for President Obama. We need a Public Health Care OPTION, which will FORCE Insurance companies to provide employee paid health care at more competitve rates and better coverage!! The feds will force the insurance to finally be competitive! Other countries like France have a very successful health care system and pay a fraction of what we currenlty pay for medicare and medicaid which doesn’t cover 46 million Americans who don’t have or can’t afford coverage. Furthermore, we are forced to revamp our current system or our federal deficit will grow to 30 trillion for just medicare and medicaid versus covering all Americans on a public option for $1 trillion.

        And if any of you our there feel it. “socialistic”, than so be it! I don’t want to see people die or suffer because they can’t afford health care!

        • Patricia

          TO: Hope for America — AMEN!!!

        • Kathy

          Give me a break! The American way is to work hard and be the best you can be not sit on your behind and let someone else take care of you.

        • Richard Price

          Sounds like you have been brainwashed. Poor soul.
          “Good for you, you have a heart, you can be a liberal. Now, couple your heart with your brain, and you can be a conservative.” – Glenn Beck

        • Ken Wilson

          HopeforAmerica

          Wake up and smell the coffee. You might hear our country being flushed down our environmentally friendly toilets (if they don’t stop up because of the gallon per flush, gpf, limits on US toilets due to environmentalists). How old are you, 16? Obviously you’ve not lived enough life yet to see the truth. If you are older thatn 50 with these bright ideas you expressed, that means you are one of those individuals that lives for the goevernment to take care of you. I paid over $50,000 dollars to the US government by way of my income tax, social security tax , and medicare tax in 2008. That is more than a lot of people make a year and does not include other taxes imposed by state and local government taht I paid. I didn’t get to the point where I make enough money to pay those high taxes by waiting on the govermnet to take care of me. I did it the old fashioned way, I worked for it. I think I pay enough taxes to expect the governemt to try and spend my tax money responsibly. Responsibly is not to “create” money for a stimulus package that won’t work. The bulk of the stimuls money is not going to the places that it is needed the most to fix our economy. I don’t think the majority of the American population wanted to spend (create)over 700 billion dollars on this plan, but we didn’t get to make that decision. I don’t think the majority of the American polulation wants the government to give away their tax dollars to benefit some congress person’s home district or state to better their position with their constituents to keep getting re-elected, but it happens all the time in pork barrell spending. If it’s not good for the country and the American pouplation at large, it should never have a penny spent on it. The goenerment does not have the responsibility to “take total care” of its people. Its respoinsibility is to protect its people from internation and intra-national dangers and do things that promote the country’s infrastructure, and economic stability. Handouts should be given out by charities. The government is not a charity.

          As a member of the middle class for the last 35 plus years and a benefactor of the government by working as a government contractor at one of the Department of Energy national labs, let me make make a couple of points based on personal experience – not from some idealogical liberal nonsense spouted out by someone that wouldn’t know hsi but from a hole in the ground. I am a degreed professional that has worked in nuclear operations since I was 19 years old. First, let’s talk about healthcare. I did what it took to get a job with an employer that offered an insurance program. I worked hard, went to college, and got a degree while I worked. I did this to ensure a better life for me and my family. I have paid my insurance premiums for 35 years and have gotten exceptional healthcare. Why would I want to screw it up with Obama’s pipe dream of socialized healthcare? I persaonlly do not want to pay for a bunch of freeloaders healthcare either. I sacrificed and worked hard to get what I have. I don’t want the govenment taking more of what I have to give to those who haven’t put in the effort that I did to get what I have. Bottom line, capitalism works better than socialism. Russia is a good example of how well socialism (communism for you who don’t realize they are based on the same principles). Socialism takes away the middle class’ incentive to work hard and get greater rewards for their hard work. Take away the middle class’ incientive to work hard and get rewarded and you take away the backbone of the country. Secondly, during every democratic controlled presidency anything associated with “nuclear” was pretty much stabbed, stomped, and stoned to death. Nuclear became a bad word. The US, which used to be the front runner in nuclear R&D and nuclear energy (commercial power reactors), is now barely able to show its face in the nuclear community. It started with Jimmy Carter (a member of the Nuclear Navy by the way) and his nuclear nonproliferation stance. It ultimately translated into anti-nuclear propaganda that was perpetuated by the liberal media and eventually killed the nuclear world in the US. The liberal media is ignorant when it comes to alot of subjects especially those things they want to oppose. such as any operations pertaining to nuclear. You talk about the social healthcare in France being successful – according to who, the liberal press. That is where you seem to be getting your facts. Why don’t you quote something about France and their nuclear energy position? Did you kow that France relies on nuclear power to supply 85% of their electricity? Underdtand this is not heresay, I have lived this for 35 years and have seen this first hand. Thirdly, the liberals want to disregard what originally made the US the most powerful and proseperous country in the world – the constitution, its admendments, and our bill of rights. All of these were based on Christian beliefs, which by the way, came out of the Bible. I am not a religious zealot, but if you take your head out of the sand long enough to observe society and remember a little of your world history from high school, you can make some astute conclusions. Societies that embrace and adopt loose morals, tend to do worse than societies that embrace stronger morals (the ten commandments for example). In fact as they get more liberal in their acceptance of loose morals, they get closer to their total failure. We in the US have enjoyed great prosperity for over 200 years during our “democratic” independence, but in the last 30 to 40 years, I have seen us slipping down a slippery slope. Look at where we are now – unemployment is out of control, our national debt is out of control, our country is experiencing social chaos, and society has more people living for their entitlements thatn ever before.

          Blame the republicans as well as the democrats? I say yes. I blame corrupt politicians, who come cloaked in every political party’s clothing. The problem is that there are not many “good” republicans left in the government and barely any “good” democrats left. Everyone seems to be in it for their own individual gain. We have lost our representation, or even more so we have forgotten how to think without someone telling us what we think. I don’t want the politicians or the press (liberal or conservative) telling me what I need and congress passing laws that I don’t support. Over 200 years ago, we engaged in a revolutionary war because of taxation without representation. Here we are today and I think I know how our founding fathers must have felt. I don’t feel represented at all. Our representatives in the House of Representatives are not representing the American people’s desires. They tell us what we need not us telling them and tehm listening. Why would you quit thinking for yourself and let them legislate laws that take your money and spend it on wothless programs to pander the slothful, lazy population who exist for government entitlements? I am not against helping the unfortunate, but too many government programs have contributed to building a society of do nothing individuals that think someone else is repsonible for taking care of them. That is a socialistic mentality if I ever saw one. What hs happened to true democracy in this country? A country where majority rules. I know that Obama won the election and that means that he got the majority of the vote, so majority rules. What’s the problem? The proble is that people voted for Obama for all the wrong reasons. The voted for him because:

          1. He wan’t George Bush. Neither was McCain, but the press said he was and Obama’s camp said he was.
          2. He was a charismatic dspeaker. Of course, that was when he could read a teleprompter. When reading from notes, he was a little shaky. When he was winging it, he was just plain awful.
          3. He was an African-American. Well he is half African-American. The eway I see it, he’s half white. Why is he not referred to as caucasion instead of “black” or Afican American?
          4. Oprah endorsed him. i hate to say this, but a bunch of brainless women just went with Obama because they think Oprah is right up there with Jessus. I hate to burst your bubble, but Oprah is not the authority on politics that I would get advice from.
          5. Some people would vote for Charles Msnsion for president if he ran on the Democratic ticket no matter what his platform or belifs.

        • Jerry

          Parties don’t mean much when both men George Bush Jr.and Obama are for the same thing, the one world Government, One Dictator controlling the world. So at the end of his Presidency George Bush Jr. creates a huge Stimulous which they try to convince the american People was very necesary. So people get angry and vote For Obama. That’s just what George Bush jr. wanted everyone to do. George Bush Jr., George Bush Sr., Obama, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Carter, and John McCain, all support the same thing. They talk the talk of whatever party they belong to, but it’s all the same organization in reality, they are all controlled and Financed by men who also control the Federal Reserve.

          The sad part is this organization has fooled both Republican’s and Democrats. Obama is a Socialist, surrounded by Socialist and Communist Czears. He – Obama is the Closer, his goal is to have laws in Place to establish Socialism by 2012,here in the United States, One Leader from the United Nations will control all the World’s Economies, Tax us to death, tell us that we need all of these programs like Health care, and once we have lost our Jobs, and we can’t afford to pay all the taxes, they will take away our homes, our Land, etc. The people of Germany didn’t see it coming either when Hitler rose to power, until it was to late, and all their freedoms were taken away. Just listen to Obama a civilian Military force he wants- For what to spy on those who appose him just like the Nazi’s. Anyone who speaks about obama being better than George Bush Jr. doesn’t understand these guys support the same one world Government, No Constitution in this Plan, No Voice of the People, just you take orders from those in Power. The Way they do this is Bankrupting this Country, forcing everone on Welfare, and Then to eat you will do as they tell you.

    • Gerald P Gephart Sr

      Bush started the nation down this spending nightmare in September 08 with the bailout of Banks and Insurance companies. Almost a TRILLION DOLLARS before he left office. The Right always go back to their favorite whipping boy (Clinton), as the cause of all the country’s problems.
      Paul says that his speaker Gingrich was the true architect of Clinton’s success. But where is this great savior now? And would we want him back leading the country.
      The following article from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, convinced me. NO!

      Gingrich has been married three times. He married Jackie Battley, his former high school geometry teacher, when he was 19 years old (she was seven years his senior at 26 years old). They had two daughters and divorced in 1981. Jackie Battley Gingrich supported him through graduate school and two unsuccessful congressional campaigns. She had undergone uterine cancer surgery during the successful 1978 campaign, which Gingrich was not averse to mentioning in his speeches. Eighteen months later, they separated. While in the hospital recovering from another uterine operation, according to his friend Lee Howell, “”Newt came up there with his yellow legal pad, and he had a list of things on how the divorce was going to be handled. He wanted her to sign it. She was still recovering from surgery, still sort of ‘out of it,’ and he comes in with a yellow sheet of paper, handwritten, and wants her to sign it.” According to Howell, friends in her church had to raise money for the separated wife of the congressman and her daughters. Later, Jackie Battley Gingrich went to court for adequate support, before the divorce decree. In his financial statement, Gingrich reported providing $400 per month, plus $40 in allowances for his daughters. Gringrich claimed to be unable to afford more, but the same financial statement lists his expenditures for his food/dry cleaning etc. (one person) as $400.

      In 1981, six months after his divorce was final, Gingrich wed Marianne Ginther. He remained married to Ginther until 2000, when they divorced. Shortly thereafter, Gingrich then married Callista Bisek, with whom he was conducting an extra-marital affair at approximately the same time he was leading the Congressional investigation into allegations that Bill Clinton lied under oath about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.

  • Fred Viggiani

    You know, even if you pay half attention to the politics of the present day, you have to question all those presently in elected office. Just take a look at Barny Frank. If Sanford was representing me i would hope he would resign. To me Frank should resign along with others who let Fannie & Freddie start an avalanch that is just getting started. 2010, all incumbents OUT. The Constitution has been ignored far too long. Term Limits will help.

    • DixieConnie

      Fred: Barny can’t quit. No one else would hire him.

  • Mike Greer

    “Let him who is without sin cast the first stone” Jesus Christ.

    Why is it that when a liberal is inplicated in wrong doing, he is welcomed back into the loving arms of his comrads and protected.

    And when a conservitatve is found to have inguaged in simalar behaviour we are expected to crucify them.

    Shouldn’t we as conservitives stop killing our politicaly wounded and start fighting back.

    Rember the old addage, “Nice guys finish last”.

  • paul s

    I am a Jew ,,,sorry I only have part 1…
    “eye for an eye”
    all liberals must d!e
    taxation, inflation, and artificially low interest rates = stealing money from the most industrious…

    when you come for my money “Bam” bring your guns not just your laws… we will be ready

  • Fred Viggiani

    You know the facts are out there for anyone to see. One and one still make 2. Thats what facts do for you. When you see what Mr Gephart posted you can tell he hasent used facts to come to his conclusions. We all have to wake up to the FACTS that present day politics dont add up. We as Americans have to come together before they take this country to a place none of us will want to be.

    • DixieConnie

      Charlie Reese wrote: “Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them. Have you ever wondered, if both the Dem and the Rep are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?
      Have you ever wondered, if all politicains are against inflation and HIGH TAXES, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?
      You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The President Does.
      You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropirations, The House of Representatives does.
      You and I don’t write the tax codes, Congress does.
      You and I don’t set fiscal policy, Congress does.
      You and I don’t control monetary policy, The Federal Reserve Bank does.
      435 Congressment, one President and 9 Supreme Court justices – 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.
      I exculded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.
      Those 545 humban beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. The cooperate in this common con regardless of party. What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of GALL. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.
      Those 545 people, and they alone are responsible. They, and they alone, have the POWER”

      Now what are you going to do with this information?

  • Dan Heller

    He has broken no laws only moral commitments. He was going nowhere politically so it doesn’t matter. The Democrats just shake off these events with a so what attitude this is one example of how the Republicans should do the same.

  • Carl W

    As a South Carolinian who twice voted for Mark Sanford I am so disappointed that he had an ongoing affair with a woman not his wife, and long before it was made public. It may now be too late for Mr. Sanford to save his marriage and his career. His fiscal conservatism has won him a huge following in South Carolina and it is a shame that he engaged in adultery and ruined his political career. We in this state can only hope that the next governor is as fiscally conservative as Sanford has been. Our state legislators seem intent on spending money for projects better left to the counties, and this is a Republican controlled legislature. They think it is their money to spend as they wish. Sanford was forced to accept the $700 million stimulus money despite the fact it may take generations for our state to recover financially, but the public school crowd thinks throwing money at education will help it after the NEA has thrown out common sense.

  • Rod OH

    This topic has nothing to do about forgiveness, bible quotations etc. It has to do with a person who went awol and totally incommunicado for 4-5 days. What repsonsible, intelligent voter(s) can excuse that type of irresponsibility and dereliction of duty? South Carolinians will make themselves look very stupid if they do not get rid of someone who so blatantly betrayed their trust.

    • Carl W

      Rod, Mr. Sanford asked those around him to forgive him for his sexual transgressions and, as Christians we are to forgive, BUT that does not mean we keep them in office as the Democrats do. Surely, he should have notified his staff where he could be reached and for that mistake he has been censured by the state GOP. Rod, it is up to the legislature and the GOP to get him out, not us voters. And you can call us stupid, infer we are unintelligent, if you want since you seem to have a mean streak showing here. We’re not fools as you might wish to believe.

      • Rod OH

        Carl, Voters can and often times do put tremendous pressure on their own representatives to remove someone like Mr. Sanford. One thing I have tyo comment on. Forgiveness is a religious issue. It has nothing to do with someone whom is derelict in his duty to his constituency. Do not tell me that the constituency cannot put pressure on the party to have him removed as he should be. As far as the “fools” comment goes, I never said that. Those are your words.

        • DixieConnie

          Even is FORGIVENESS is necessary, I’m not sure we the people are the ones to forgive him, he is still held accountable for his actions. And I don’t mean his moral actions. Anyone and everyone IS capable of falling from grace. He just should have been quieter about it. But if he did go AWOL from his job, then that is different. I don’t think I could leave my job for 3 or 4 days and come back and everything be OK. But, oh yea, I’m not a politician.

        • Carl W

          Pardon me, Rod of Ohio, you who knows more than anyone else! You did not use the word “fool” but you seemed to throw out words like “Stupid”. Yes, we can ask our representatives to get rid of Sanford. Gee, thanks for straightening out my dumb thinking. Don’t know what we’d do without your educated input.
          But we’re waiting for you to put pressure on your representatives to get rid of OBAMA.

  • Fred Viggiani

    Hey Dixie, not sure if you were replying to me or not, but we are in total agreement. I was responding to Mr Gephart,with his all CAPITALS rant that was not based in facts. All i want is for people to stop Quibbling, and get on board to save this country. the truth will set us free. The dems & the repubs have screwed us over. Out with the Fed. they are a bunch of crooks.

    • DixieConnie

      Fred: I agree.

  • Wolfman

    HE (SANFORD) IS NOT THE ONLY ONE PLAYING ON THE SIDE. THERE ARE A LOT MORE DOING THE SAME THING. CLINTON, KENNEDY, GINGRINCH, McCANE, AND A LOT MORE—————–THE WOLFMAN——————————

  • Jimbo

    Clinton had an extra-marital affair and LIED about it continually to everyone. People stood behind him and supported his evil ways.

    Sanford had an extra-marital affair and CONFESSED to the world. Now people want to get rid of him and abandon all his efforts as governor.

    And by the way, to all those so called Christians that say they forgive Sanford but then want o remove him from office, as yourself this: Did Jesus say he would forgive you then punish you anyway for what you did wrong?

    • DixieConnie

      The term “Forgive” does not give a PASS or a do over. Forgive means to not retaliate, to not get you back. The man is still held accountable for his ACTIONS. Everyone is still held accountable for their actions.

  • Jack

    There was a serial killer on the loose in South Carolina while the governor was on vacation trying to repair his relationship with the other woman, who’s not his soul-mate, but just his wife. This has no bearing on whether he continues to serve. But while he was gone to Argentina, what if a 9-11 happened on a military base, what if tornados ravaged Charleston, what if his wife and kids were in an accident, who were you gonna call, Ghost Busters? We need to bust this ghost, this guy is over all the state employees, of which none would not have been fired upon their return, drawing a governmental paycheck while on a rendezvous with their foreign mistress. He made no vow to me so I need not forgive him, but he freely became a public figure, whom I think should run to find a hiding place in the private sector.

    • DixieConnie

      Yes, hold him accountant for his job activity or lack of.

  • Peter Melville

    Sanford looked like a deer in the headlights. He never expected his sin would find him out. It did.

  • James Corbin

    Jimbo, you are right!

  • James Corbin

    Clinton, inherited a good economy!!!!!!

  • Brian Rawls

    Clnton is as bad as the tv minister Benny Hinn. Both of them qualify for a sepreme A** whooping. We should make them walk a guantlet

  • Rod OH

    Carl, for some reason there was no reply caption, so here is my reply. That pressure (against Mr. O) will not happen because I like how this educated, intelligent ,communicative individual is confronting the decades old problems that”W” ran and hid from. People like you will never understand what people like Karl Rove, Dick Cheney. Donald Rumsfield, Newt Gingerich (and I could go on and on with key names) have done to this country. They just about sent us down the tube. And you people just keep listening to their propaganda. Unbelievable.

    • Tim FL

      Hey Rod OH,
      Would you use gasoline to put out a campfire?? From what I’ve seen of “Mr O” so far, he’s going to make FDR seem like a moderate. Of course “Mr O” won’t be afforded a second term to continue his quiseling, destructive path. Let us all come to our senses and re-defeat communism in 2012.

      • Rod OH

        Tim, As long as you keep using “labels” like “socialism” and “communism” it proves to me that you have fallen into the conservative’s “propaganda trap”. It justifies to them that “mis-labeling and fearmongering” works anf they never have to provide any compromises or soultions of their own. Don’t let them do that to you. That is not what this administration is doing. What a mess they were handed and they truly are confronting it and doing something about it.

        • Tim FL

          Rod OH,
          I’m proud to say that I don’t fall for labels, I just recognize politicians for what they are. You wouldn’t call a man who physically and sexually assaults women anything other than a rapist, would you? Obama and his minions are doing the same things that the Hoover and Roosevelt administrations tried to do during the great depression. All of their well meaning market controls and bailouts did nothing but prolong the financial agony 15 to 20 years longer than it should have. A responsible Congress and Senate would do best to reign in these out of control heads of state and reduce them to what the Constitution designed them to be, figureheads. By the way, I didn’t like “W” either, I called him a Nazi Socialist. Sorry for labeling, but I call them like I see them. In 8 years under Bush we lost more of our freedoms and Constitutional protections than under all of the past administrations combined. You can give me a label, Rod OH, and I’ll wear it like a billboard. “Libertarian” Do me a favor. Go to a website called theadvocates.org and take the “World’s Smallest Political Quiz”. Let me know how you score in your response to this post…Tim

  • Rod OH

    Tim, No but you just happened to fall for conservative ‘CONSPIRCAY THEORIES” though. And no matter hard you try, you cannot realistically compare the “old days” to the present. The world’s dynamics have changed way too much.

    • Tim FL

      Rod OH,
      To whom are you responding? No where here have I mentioned any CONSPIRACY theories. Calm down and listen. The message I’m trying to get across to you is that we have moved too far away from the core blueprint that makes our country run properly, the US Constitution. Everything we need is there, including, but not limited to: seperation of powers, apportioned taxation, rule of law, sound monetary policy, the Bill of Rights. Many of the problems we have today are the result of policies implemented in direct conflict with this document. The Founders warned us of the many dangers of straying from the Constitution when writing the Federalist Papers. They knew from experience, through historical, not conspiritorial precedents, what to avoid when forming our new government. Benjamin Franklin was asked as he was leaving the convention: “What form of government have you given us?” He replied: “A Republic, if you can keep it!” It’s my observation of our modern day “dynamics” that we are doing our level best to throw it all away!!
      P.S.- You didn’t tell me your test score…

      • Rod OH

        Tim, You are still trying to compare an “apple with an orange” when you try to compare our “Founding Fathers” with today. As civilizations grow and the world becomes more complicated, you just cannot do that and expect be considered “relevant’. That is why Mr. Obama is so good. Not only is he intelligent. He is not afraid to take on today’s/the presents’ problems. Things that Republicans are all to willing to ignore (simply because they are unwilling to upset the richest 10% of the nation). The only thing that bothers me is it took me four decades of voting to figure this out. I never saw anything about this “test” in your post. I am sure it is some type of “sleight of hand conservative propaganda”. They only seem good at spreading, fear, false conspiracy theories and negativity anymore.

        • Tim FL

          The US Constitution, Irrelevent?? WOW, I just don’t know how to respond to that….I now feel nothing but genuine pity for you. You are lost, comrade!

  • Carol

    This man should be put in jail for what he has done to his family now and for all time.

    It used to be against the law to do that to your husband or wife and it should be that way today.

    He has no right to be in office at all he should be kicked out TODAY!!!

  • Merl Elton

    The fact that he abandoned his post for so long and lied about it is highly disturbining and irresponsible. He has lost his professionalism and credibility. He should have the decency to resign for that reason. His illicit affair is personal. If his wife condones or forgives him that is also their business.

  • Merl Elton

    If he were my husband, he would be late for the door.

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