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GOP Lands Two Counterpunches Following State Of The Union

January 27, 2011 by  

GOP lands two counterpunches following State of the Union  The Republican Party had two opportunities to address a national audience following President Barack Obama's State of the Union address on Jan. 25.

Representative Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) gave the official GOP response to the President's speech, followed by Representative Michele Bachmann's (R-Minn.) stance on behalf of the Tea Party. While both lawmakers challenged Obama on several key issues, such as healthcare reform and out-of-control government spending, their style was drastically different.

Ryan, the chairman of the House Budget Committee, spoke in a straightforward language that focused on the dangers of a growing national deficit.

"Our nation is approaching a tipping point. We are at a moment, where if government's growth is left unchecked and unchallenged, America's best century will be considered our past century," Ryan said in his televised response.

Bachmann, who chairs the House Tea Party caucus, opted for metaphors and visual aids. During her response, which aired on CNN, Bachmann pointed to the famous World War II photo of United States soldiers hoisting the American flag at Iwo Jima. She said that the picture symbolizes how the U.S. came together to "beat back a totalitarian aggressor," which is the type of effort needed today to overcome the nation's debt crisis. 

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  • http://Persoanllibertydigest Jim

    Paul Ryan was spot on — I believe we see the future of our country. Michele Bachmann was 100 % right — Both of these leaders are going to help us right a sinking ship that’s taking water on and about to go down — That’s if we have time

    • http://naver sook young

      Let’s all pray that our newly elected leaders can not only right the ship, but stop Obama, shrink the debt, and bring this country back to GOD. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

      • castaway

        With all due respect Sook the American people also need to be part of bring it all together. We have let this happen for years and years, and now it may be too late. The liberal Communists have a good foothold, and have lots of momentum. It ultimatly will fall in the hands of the American people, which direction we will take. We have lots of issues that need to be met head on, and many will be painful, but we must not fail. I sincerely believe it will take something more drastic, than voting to get our republic back. Evil never gives up easily, never.

        • JC in CA

          Evil never gives up period. We do have the will to make our choices prove ourselves to our God, to accept our places beside Him. We can right this ‘ship’ until He comes for us.

          Revelation:
          {18:3} For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath
          of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have
          committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the
          earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her
          delicacies.

          Those with the ‘mark of the beast’ shall be eternally forsaken.

    • Norm

      First off, the RSC proposes to cut only $2.5 trillion over 10 years—not even enough to make up for the additional deficit created by extending the Bush tax cuts.
      And where exactly do the Republicans want to cut? Not at all in defense, Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid, the biggest drivers of current spending. Moreover, these are the buckets of spending that if not altered will generate larger deficits every year and contribute almost nothing to our future competitiveness.
      Instead, they propose that virtually the entirety of the cuts—$2.3 trillion of $2.5 trillion—come from nondefense discretionary spending. That means slashing spending in everything from education to scientific research funding by a whopping 20 percent to 30 percent over the next decade.
      This approach is a political punt of the worst form. The Republicans appear to be afraid to make a single tough decision on entitlement spending, defense, or equity issues. They are simply caught in a dogma of “cut where the political cost will be least” and ignore what the impact on the future will be.

      • Richard

        Additional debt is not created by tax cuts, but as a consequence of irresponsible spending.

        • Ted Crawford

          Right on point Richard! History records that all four Presidents that employed tax cutting as a means to generate revenue , Coolidge, Kennedy, Reagan,and Bush ’43′ were successful. We could have seriously used another Tip O’Neil in the 110th and 111th Congresses!
          On the flip side of this those who attempt to increase revenue by raising taxes have seen the reverse be the results. IE Carter and more recently Patterson in New York. I’m sure that Quinn in Illinois has allready begun to realize, like Patterson did, that his idiotic move has cost and will continue to cost the state both jobs and revenue!

      • Ted Crawford

        It is interesting to note that a progressive admits that the major drivers of our debt and deficit are all illconcieved progressive programs!
        In the case of Social Security they are even very open with their attempted trickery when thay make statements, as many who propose to slash the program have, like “At the inception of the program most people didn’t live to the age of 65!”. In other words the program was never, really designed to help us in our retirement. Rather it was ment to provide a large pool of money that would allow them to spend their tiny little brains out! They follow this statement with an even more telling one ” In any case the money isn’t there! We’ve allready spent it!”. How inconsiderate of us to actually want them to keep their promises to us!

      • castaway

        First Norm we will cut off your supply of money and your ability to have medical care. If that does not change your attitude, then we will shut off your oxygen supply. Less people draining the system, and more money to pay the bills. HAHAHAHAHAHA

        • 45caliber

          Hey, Gingis Khan was recented feated at the best “enviornmentalist” of the ages by the Greens! He had 40,000,000 people killed which resulted in a lot less CO2 production. Maybe Oblama can do better.

      • 45caliber

        Norm, surely you aren’t trying to say that since the savings mentioned won’t balance the budget that we shouldn’t do it?

      • Don Brookfield

        Norm obviously doesn’t have a clue. Spending cuts should start with reducing the size of our bloated government, eliminating the massive numbers sucking at the public trough through all of the agencies created by such things as Obamacare. The savings in government pension expenditures alone will dramatically start cutting into our massive debt. Too many are riding in the wagon and it’s getting to where they out number those pulling the wagon. Give the private sector worker enough reason, such as shafting him/her with more taxation, and he/she will climb into the wagon, too. Sooner or later, that wagon comes to a screetching halt, and then we’re all doomed! Wake up to reality, Norm!

        • Dan Burke

          The reverse of your analogy is true too. If you reduce the wagon, make it smaller. Fewer people in the wagon means more people producing, pushing and pulling the wagon. That won’t work? Really? If they are uncomfortable in their poverty, won’t that help motivate them to work? And if they are working in the private sector because their is no room in the proverbial wagon, does that not produce more for the economy? They might be working minimum wage and not making enough to even be taxed, but they will still be working for some private economic growth producing a good or service that will thus push forward little by little the economy as a whole.

    • Bob from Calif.

      In order to stop what is going on in Washington, we the people need to stop the people pulling the strings of our politicians. The agendas of the Trilateral commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, the U.N., and the Bilderbergs should be on every ones top ten reading list. If you don’t believe in conspiracy theories now, you will when you are done. An easy one to start with is Agenda 21 being promoted by the U.N..

      • Vicki

        Or we could vote in people with morals like Ron Paul.

        “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” – John Quincy Adams http://quoteworld.org/quotes/96

  • http://www.diyyardandhome.com Dan

    I agree with Jim in that both Ryan and Bachmann where both 100% right. Imagine them as a ticket in 2012. I am tire of our Republican Recycle Machine that keeps trotting out the same old tired choices and heaven forbid we let the media pick our choice like they did in the last Presidential election. Moderate Republicans never win.

    • Vicki

      use social networking. Talk them up. Leave the MSM in the dustbin of historical failures.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Dan,
      Another person I would like to see run again and get enough coverage is Duncan Hunter. He’s pro gun, closed border, anti-amnesty, and wants to cut the governments spending!

      • http://naver sook young

        He sounds promising. Now will he try to overturn all of Obama’s policies and agendas? Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

  • J.M.R.

    well you had better hope mitt romney doesn’t get the nod as he’s another lying scott brown.

    • Ellen

      I agree. Look at the mess Mitt created in Mass. with their health care program. We don’t need another president that lacks the ability to see the future outcome of the programs they think the public wants. The public doesn’t need more ill-conceived programs that will bankrupt us.

      • 45caliber

        The real problem is that Congress gives the people what they think the people want – regardless of what it costs. They aren’t worried about the costs, just the votes from happy people. Right now too many people want the government cut but if they satisfy those people, they will make enemies of those they cut. So they have to walk a tight rope and hope it doesn’t end up around their necks.

        Personally I think we should just dump all of them and get a clean slate installed. And dump all the laws they have saddled us with for the last thirty years or so as well.

    • Joyce from Loris

      You are so right! I sent an email to Scott Brown, told him how totally disgusted I was with him, and how I hated the fact that I support his campaign financially, only to find out he LIED. I promised him that I would equally work just as hard to GET HIM OUT. He is a Rino, and so is Mitt Romney. Lord help us if THAT one ever makes it to the White House.

    • Barbara

      Unfortunately Mitt is the grand old man of the party as were Dole and Mccain. Neither of these two ran a campaign to win. They seemed to expect to win just because they wanted to be president.

    • castaway

      This is exactly why you people who believe in voting, will ultimatly lead to our downfall. You are the weak link in the chain!! Out with what is not working, and in with something called a constitutional government. This will not happen with voting! It is way past the chance of that ever working.

  • Mikey

    So if the “Tea Party” is treated as worth televising where does it end? Communist Party? Independent Party, do they all get to be on TV slavishly reading from a teleprompter? I represent the All Night Party and CNN wouldn’t televise me!!

    • Richard

      The communist party is already on television every day, slavishly reading from the teleprompter.

      • Curtis

        hahaha. Teleprompter? Did you see Michele Bachmann read from the teleprompter? She didn’t even look at the camera once! Great rebuttal… try looking at the camera… a little eye contact helps establish a little credibility! That was a GOP counter-punch??? She looked more like a blind boxer staring off in the distance. If you consider Backmann’s ridiculous performance a counterpunch you’re in big trouble. Note to the Tea Party… time for a new spokesperson!

        • Vicki

          Curtis writes:
          “Did you see Michele Bachmann read from the teleprompter? She didn’t even look at the camera once!”

          Then she obviously wasn’t using a teleprompter. You do know what a teleprompter is and how it works?

          • Curtis

            Having been involved in the media for many years I am quite familiar with what a teleprompter is and how a teleprompter works. How ’bout you Vicki do you know how they work or are you being intentionally obtuse? Michelle Bachmann was speaking to her teleprompter (the Tea Party web feed?) and was so fixated on it, that she couldn’t bring herself to look away and acknowledge the existence of the another camera. Sadly for Bachmann, THAT was the camera that supplied her speech to TV… and made her and her party look foolish. Your claim that it proves she wasn’t using a teleprompter is delusional, pathetic and reeks of denial. What it does show is that Bachmann isn’t very media savvy or have any “media smarts”.

            This should end the moronic cheap shots about Obama using a teleprompter. Reagan used a teleprompter and EVERYONE since has used one. The only difference between everyone else and Michelle Bachmann is that THEY used teleprompters properly. The only memorable things about Michelle Bachmann’s performance were how amateurish and laughable it truly was.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            curtis,
            If you are who you say, then you also know how hard it is to concentrate on a split camera. Everytime you look at one the other is filming. If you aren’t used to it you always get caught looking at the wrong camera and you look as if you don’t want to look into the eyes of the people!

          • Curtis

            JoeH… No Joe it’s not hard to concentrate on a split camera, because there’s no such thing as a split camera. Joe, when you’re giving a speech (or a rebuttal) you’re not concentrating on the camera(s) you’re supposed to be concentrating on the SPEECH. Now that you’re properly focused on your speech … try to make eye contact with all parts of the audience and simply ignore the cameras. If there is no live audience… like a media event, you try to ensure that you acknowledge each camera. Michelle Bachmann either ignored her audience or she didn’t have one. If she had no audience then it was strictly a media event, which means she should deliver a part of her speech to each camera. But no… she just read her script straight from the teleprompter (and not very well) and completely missed the other TV camera. Stop making excuses… it was amateurish… it was embarrassing and too many people here have to eat their words about Obama and his teleprompter.

          • http://naver samurai

            Curtis is lying. His name is Chris and he lies like the big one! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Curtis

            Gee samurai… is that all you got? Next time you’re allowed near the computer… get Nurse Kratchett to help you write something a little more clever.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Curtis,
            you know, after seeing what Samurai posts and what you post, I’ll believe ………..Samurai!!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            Thanks Joe H.! I’ve only been before news cameras twice in my lifetime. The first time was 1990 just before going to Desert Storm, the second time was for a local news channel in Louisiana in 2001 about two days before leaving for Afghanistan. Cameras are no big deal. I agree with you that if she wasn’t used to it, it could make you look bad. I also know that she sounded a lot better and made more sense than Obama bin Laden. I liked how Paul Ryan (R-WI) toe him apart after his speech. I wonder if Obama had his pants sent to the cleaners to remove that poo poo stain in his pants yet. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • castaway

      Do us all a favor, and go back to your POT STASH!

  • patrick

    I wish Bachmann could convince the rest of the Reublicans and conservatives to ATTACK Obammy boy and his crew of crooked czars. By that, I mean go after, investigate, open up all the documents that Obammy and his crew of spent millions to hide from us, we the people. Why are our politicans so afraid to go after Obammy boy and expose him, Pelosi, Reid, Bidden, Holder et. al. for their knowingly help in Obammys cover up and fraud of his live birth records, when and where he was born, his school transcripts etc etc.? Something is wrong folks! Everyday people from all around the country are simply asking for proof so we can get on with business and feel good that Obammy boy is legal to be in the Whitehouse. Why would any honest American and a Christian, purposely hide your birth certificate unless quite simply you have something to hide? My vote is to convict him of treason and then the firing squad! end of story.

    • Ted Crawford

      The reason might just be Patrick, that he has found this issue to be a usefull diversion of his opponents time and energy and I, supose a good deal of money!
      I believe we should be spending our time and money on what is out in the open or easily accessable, because of his narcissism there is an abundance of material to work with. By all means, if it pleases you, pursue the information in a secondary way, but the situation now is far too grave to spend much time and money against what is clearly a well concieved and multi-layered defense!

    • castaway

      Yes this would be an exellent beginning to a revolution, and a new beginning to a new republic. It would anger them to no end, and then the fighting would begin.Bring it on, let the lefties pay the price for their foolishness.

      • Vicki

        Since the soapbox, ballot box and jury box are all still working I see NO reason at all to suggest (physical) fighting. Are you a liberal mole sent to try and cause trouble?

    • misguided

      Maybe it is because two many congressman and woman is being paid to keep us as their fianancial slaves. How can a congressman come in and make 174,000 and leave a millionaire and how can a president come in and make 400,000 and leave a billionaire? Now who is you going to investigate. The average american make 32,000. How many workers is needed to pay their salaries. When they is just getting the federal tax off of us.

  • Joyce from Loris

    I was very proud of both Ryan and Bachmann responses. Bachmann’s use of graphics made it VERY CLEAR, so clear that even a liberal could see, that the spending has increased dramatically under Obama. With leaders like this in place, WE THE PEOPLE just might have a chance. If they will now hold firm on refusing to increase the credit limit of the nation, we might be OK. But we can not set back now and relax, we still have to make sure that the officials in DC understand that we ARE WATCHING, what we expect out of them, and work on the election in 2012, to clean the rest of the trash out.

    • Norm

      Bachmann’s graphics were about as sophisticated as a first grader’s show and tell. The woman makes Palin look smart(OMG).
      It was the typical Obama hate and finger pointing exercise used by the tea baggers and right wing nuts. Even Boehner said he “hadn’t heard” it.

      • Barbara

        Regan employed graphics and it worked.

        • Norm

          Barbara
          Good graphics are a great asset. In my working days my technical presentations were based on good informative data.
          Bachmann’s little BS graph was simple-minded and inaccurate.

          • smilee

            Here is the factcheck comments on these two liars

            * In the official response, Rep. Paul Ryan said that “trust in government is at an all-time low now that the size of government is at an all-time high.” He’s wrong on both counts. Trust has been lower, and government has been larger, in the past.
            * In her own rebuttal to Obama, Rep. Michele Bachmann said that the bailout cost “$700 billion.” The net cost actually is estimated to be much less — $25 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
            In addition, the two Republicans repeated several false and misleading charges we’ve already written about. Our readers will be familiar with many of them, such as claims that the stimulus didn’t create jobs (it did), that the health care law hurts job growth (experts say the impact will be small), and that “16,500 IRS agents” will enforce that law (that’s based on a flawed, partisan analysis).

          • http://naver samurai

            How would you know smilee (Chris)? By the way, the third paragraph that you said the GOP is just making things up, cite your source! Just another lying lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxist. You know absolutely nothing about Obama bin Laden and his administration. Considering he contradicted himself so many times in his speech and it was very boring, full of lies, and I guarantee that all his programs will falter before 2012! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Papa

        Dear Norm,

        Get a grip! In case you haven’t noticed the “Tea Parties” (your tea baggers) consist of mostly middle age to older Americans who propose we “REINSTATE” our constitution and move back to fiscal responsibility by applying its principles. You know, like CONGRESS must vote to send this nation to war while a “President” is only authorized to respond DEFENSIVELY when we’re attacked, and even then only for a short period of time.

        While there certainly are “wing-nuts” on the right, just as there are on the left, I didn’t notice any of them among the “LEADERS” of any Tea Party events I witnessed. Those leaders and their speakers all sent a very clear message, which was “STOP SPENDING MONEY WE DON’T HAVE!”

        Are ideas such as “Live Within Our Means” what you would call RADICAL? If so, I hate to see what the “BUDGET” at your house might look like…

        • 45caliber

          I really believe Norm’s ‘budget’ depends upon what he gets from Welfare. So the more the Dems are willing to give, the more he is willing to help them.

          • Norm

            45caliber
            Wrong again!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            45caliber,
            you are wrong! It depends on what he gets from mom and dad as he’s 17 and living in their basement!!! his allowance doesn’t allow him to have much of a budget!!

      • Dale on the left coast

        Simple Norm . . . they have to be, so lieberals can understand. The ship is sinking Norm, and you still won’t put on your life jacket . . . LOL

        • Norm

          Dale on the left coast
          Have you heard the phrase “out of the frying pan into the fire”.
          Open your eyes.

      • Vicki

        Norm says:
        “Bachmann’s graphics were about as sophisticated as a first grader’s show and tell. The woman makes Palin look smart(OMG).
        It was the typical Obama hate and finger pointing exercise used by the tea baggers and right wing nuts. Even Boehner said he “hadn’t heard” it.”

        Impressive Norm. You worked in not 1 but 4 ad hominem attacks +2 veiled ad hominem attacks and still not manage to make a point. Well done.

        • Norm

          Vicki
          On the contrary, I think the point is quite clear to anyone fluent in English.

    • castaway

      You have been watching too many Disney movies!

      • Norm

        castaway
        I like Disney movies, don’t you?

  • patrick

    Also, if I was going to stay in Minnesota, I would have said that Michele Bachmann and myself, are the two best people from Minnesota. Michele has stated in several news broadcasts that Minnesota is so bad politically because the Liberal Democrats and Unions have an absolute stronghold on business and the Gov’t in Minnesota. The Lib’s and Demo’s spend our tax money on bringing in Muslim’s and Somali’s, paying all costs associcated with their moving here including housing, medical, food, transportation, education and entertainment. Of course that leads to shortfalls in City, County, and State budget’s to fix and repair things like bridges and pot holes. So as most of you have seen on the news, our bridges are collapsing and so did the Metrodome roof. Then the City and State waste $ 5 million dollars to build a bus stop in the middle of 35W freeway, for 10 people that catch a bus to downtown in the morning. It is no wonder people are leaving this State in droves because the way of life is favoring all the queer gay people and Minnesota is one of the highest taxed states in the nation. I can’t wait to leave all the crap behind for all those cute little boys and man/women to fight over at taxpayers expense. C YA and good riddins!

    • castaway

      Sound like your sister state, Wisconsin, that has been very democratic for way to long. It has not helped us much either. If you tell our two Democratic Senators about an issue, it falls on deaf ears. Go Republicans!

      • eddie47d

        Was Bachmann really talking about light bulbs and that is why we are loosing our liberties? I think she needs to screw Her light bulb back in.

        • Vicki

          Eddie47d writes:
          “Was Bachmann really talking about light bulbs and that is why we are loosing our liberties? I think she needs to screw Her light bulb back in.”

          Another wonderfully useless ad hominem attack from the liberal known as Eddie47d. No points. No cites. No assertions. No value. Credibility -1.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          eddie,
          If you had half the brain of a slug, you would understand what she was talking about. those incadesant bulbs are about 40 cents apiece while the pig tail flourescents are about 3.50 a piece and are full of a poison, mercury! the biggest concern, though, is that those poison filled bulbs are made in China while the incandescent bulbs are made in the US!!! Oh, and that claim that the pig tails last so much longer?? BS! I’ve had them burn out in less than six months!!!

          • libertytrain

            JoeH, they don’t all last that long – I’ve had problems with them as well and go out of my way not to buy them. I’m particularly annoyed by the instructions on clean-up if one breaks and they do break.

    • smilee

      patrick says:
      January 27, 2011 at 8:38 am

      I live in MN, Bachman is my congress person, people are not leaving this state in droves fact is the census just completed actually show an increase in population over the last decade and business are not leaving in droves either. My advise to you is you get your facts from somewhere else rather that believing our states biggest liar.. Time and time again the local TV stations reality checks keep pointing pout what a big liar she is. Doubtful she could win in a state wide race in MN. She is referred to most in the state as our biggest embarrassment.

      • http://naver samurai

        That’s a lie Chris! You’ve never lived in Minnesota. Why would they call her an embarrassment if she was reelected? Get off the site and quit lying about yourself. Your whole life has been nothing but a lie! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Curtis

          Sook Young… Wife of the Samurai? Sook Young… where are you? The Samurai is off his meds again! He keeps making wild accusations and then asks others to cite THEIR sources. Can you get him to start taking his pills again? Maybe you should talk to the doctor about ‘upping’ his dosage… because his hypocrite gland seems to be working OVER-TIME.

          • http://naver samurai

            Ah yes, we have referred back to our middle school days. Obama bin Laden bombed on his speech and we all know it. You talk bad about a woman that was overwelmingly elected by the people, why? Is it because you just some stupid antagonist and your intelligence level is very low for a human being? Like I posted before, the next two years will be interesting to see what happens. I think Obamacare will be overturned or defunded. Abortions will be harder to get and will be restricted in some cases. The U.N. Small Arms Treaty will be nullified. Many of the programs that have been passed by this administration will be reversed and fat chance of passing anything that “WE THE PEOPLE” don’t want. I also see the reinstating of DADT and many other things. If Bachman is such an embarassment, why does she get reelected? Her Tea Party speech was a lot better than Obama bin Laden’s speech. His speech was so off course that republicans had to correct almost everything he said. You make a big deal about someone that can’t handle two cameras? Who cares? This has nothing to do with their ability to lead, make decisions, and perform on the job. What moron would use that to make their decision for them? Hitler was better with the TV cameras and look what happened. The same thing that happened with Obama bin Laden. If you think what they look like and how they act on TV is important, then you are a moron. In 2000, Indiana had Mitch Daniels and Joe Kernan running for governor. Mitch wasn’t good on TV either, but he still got elected and reelected, so what’s your point? Isn’t the content of the speech more important then how they react to the TV cameras? Chris, get off of the site with your lies. You are a disgrace to this country and your family. No wonder you couldn’t make it in California. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Norm

    Paul Ryan gave a very good positive speech. Unfortunately, as usual, it lacked any real substance and was sadly lacking in “particulars”. Everyone wants to curtail spending, reduce taxes and maintain military and social programs. That’s impossible! So far no one of either party has come up with anything close to achieving a balanced budget.
    Bachmann is a hopeless idiot who is a sham and an insult to human intelligence.
    Be gone idiot, you add nothing.

    • Richr

      Particulars, you say. You mean like all the particulars you get from the white house ? And you’re the IDIOT. Be gone!!!

      • castaway

        We will not cut off Norms supply or oxygen! bye bye traitor.

        • eddie47d

          How about Eric Cantor on Meet the Press last Sunday. He was asked three times about fixes for Social Security and each time hedged on any solid plan. He said it was in the Republican “book” and we would have to read it to find out. Sounds like what Pelosi said which shows both sides want to keep us in the dark.

          • 45caliber

            Probably they do. And your point is? That we should put Pelousy back in power?

      • Norm

        Richr
        The Repubs. are supposed to have all solutions. I saw none.

        • smilee

          I suspect that will become a lot clearer over the next two years

          • http://naver samurai

            Since the House voted to overturn Obama bin Laden Care, I guess that is the way things will go. Even if the Senate doesn’t pass the legislation, the GOP in the House has said that they’ll defund it. We all know that Congress, not the Senate, holds the purse strings. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Ted Crawford

      You might be unaware Norm, though I doubt it, that Rayn has indeed proposed a comprehensive plan. I’ve not seen it so can’t give an informed opinion, but from the reputation of those who have, it would at least appear to be a good base to begin working from!

      • Norm

        Ted Crawford
        His plan won’t balance the budget any more than Bush’s or Reagan’s.
        Republican red ink is no better than Democratic red ink.

    • Papa

      Michelle Bachmann is an intelligent, literate woman with a firm grip on reality. That’s more than I can say for most of the MEN in our political class!

      What’s the matter? Are you just jealous or maybe fearful???

      • Norm

        Papa
        Disgusted is a better word.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Yup, fearful!!!!

        • smilee

          You be surprised at how many in MN call her our biggest embarrassment. She can win in the 6th district and maybe the second but nowhere else in MN. We hopes she runs against Senator Klobachar in 2012 then we can get rid of her, no one gives her much chance in that race.

          • http://naver samurai

            Why did you repeat telling that lie? If she’s an embarrassment, then why was she reelected by a good margin? Quit lying and stay off of the site. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Raggs

    Ever notice that the left / communist party is treating Bachman the same as Palin? The only thing that they can say about her is that she is stupid….

    • Ted Crawford

      Yes Raggs. It seems very telling that the party self lauded as the party of the underdog attacks, much like the weak bully, those they precieve as vulnerable! In the cases of Palin and Bachman it seems they grossly miscalculated! I think that these ladies can more than stand up to themselves!

    • castaway

      Of course, they are scared do death of people like Palin.They look at her, and see their very end coming.

      • eddie47d

        …and you are scared to death of Hillary. So big whoop!

        • Dale on the left coast

          There is no question . . . hillery is Scarey!!!

        • Papa

          Scared of Hillary? Not at ALL! Had she been I the ballot in 2008 I probably would have voted for her.

          Too bad the “IDIOT DEMS” did the same as the “IDIOT REPUBS” in 2008 and picked their worst available candidate to run for President…

    • eddie47d

      Raggs: How about getting off of your anti-Communist tirades and come down to earth. Like you all aren’t constantly poking at Obama and Hillary.

      • http://naver samurai

        The libs are scared of them edduh and you know it. If they thought otherwise, why would they be paying them so much attention? You only pay attention to something that you are scared of. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Mike

    Where’s the Birth Certificate for Obama.
    To fix a government you must start at the top.
    Where’s the Birth Certificate!
    Of all the suggestions on cutting the deficit, nobody talks about cutting foreign aid. They only talk about cutting services to Americans.
    How about cutting aid to illegals. How about Obama cuts out some of the 23 hand maidins his wife has.
    Obama should be forced to eat Chinnese food for the rest of his life!
    Congress needs to stop all the fan fair about the budget and DEMANED The BIRTH CERTIFICATE! FIRST AND FOREMOST!

    • castaway

      I strongly believe you are wrong Mike. We no longer need to fix the government, as it is too far gone to be a feasable endevor. Total replacement makes more sense and could be done with in a short time.

      • Pat R

        Sounds like you need to join the Republic!!

        http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org

      • Vicki

        The Republic we have would work just fine if we would vote for moral people instead of Chicago machine type politicians.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        castaway,
        you are either very brave or a fool or both! You keep talking like that and the right person sees it, and you wouldn’t even get out the door with a gun!! Don’t be foolish and discuss what you want to do or are going to do on a public forum! All you might accomplish is making them watch a number of the posters here.

  • Carol

    There are many things the government could do to cut spending. Number 1 is to take a serious look at just how many illegal mexicans are in our country. These people DO collect: food stamps, free health care, including free prescription drugs,housing,and a monthly check.

    A few months back a study was done on the cost of allowing them to stay versus the cost to round them up and send them back to Mexico. It
    cost less to send them home than it cost to support these people for a year!!!

    Some in our government (Dems) claim that this can’t be done. That is a lie as it has been done twice already, the first time was after WW1,
    the second time was after WW2. Why was it done? The mexicans were taking jobs our Vets needed now that they had won the war, and secured our freedom. I believe it was Pres. Roosevelt, he called it “Operation Wetback”. It worked, and the country put Americans to work.

    This isn’t going to happen until we the people stand up and demand it!
    If Washington won’t do it, then we clean house and start over with those who will do it.

    I’ll leave this with the question of our generation: Where’s the birth certificate… answer…there isn’t one. Why else would he pay over two million dollars in attorney fees to prevent anyone from seeing it. We are the JOKE of the world..where is our collective spines?

    • castaway

      Who the hell cares about Obama,Biden, Reid,and Pelosi. We need to stand up like true patriots with a gun in one hand, and a copy of OLD GLORY in the other. At that point they will know we are serious and they are screwed.

      • Ted Crawford

        The method you propose is unneccessary at this point! We still have in our hands, albiet just barely, the reins of a Constitutional Republic! To chose an armed response would surly invite the aggressor nations alined against us to take an active part. The lose of life would be horrendous and the outcome would surly not favor us!
        We woun’t achieve a worthwhile gain by espousal of the ideals of our opponent. Armed conflict to deciede political ideas is, after all, a leftest mantra!

        • JC in CA

          Ted and those who may agree,….

          um that’s not how our forefathers saw it….they were God-fearing, wealthy, altruists….willing to put their $$ where their mouths were. The were brilliant in understanding that it meant everything or nothing. They were not going to be en$laved to the King. They knew his errors and put down the many reasons (just as today, read the DoI).

          Why do thy fear us all having guns and firearms equal to theirs? Could it be that we may rise up against them tyrants and usurpers and ‘clean house’? Why do they want an Internet ‘kill switch’ like they did during Iran’s Elections? Speach? naw….they want us to enjoy all these God-given abilities….really Ted?

          If our forefathers were prepared to stand for their beliefs, I am willing to stand beside you Ted, maybe in-front of you, to protect the ideals our founders shouted to the world….’Here We stand, united for what we believe. Now cram it!’

          It will take time and effort. Calls and Letters. Meetings and Conversations. Spread the word that again and forever …Here we stand.

          JC

      • 45caliber

        castaway:

        If you are so certain that is the way, go start it. Actually, I still suspect you are a government-paid agitator hoping to get someone to step forward so you can make an arrest.

        • Vicki

          No need to suspect. We have enough evidence in his writings to draw a reasonable conclusion that he is a government or liberal mole here to cause trouble.

  • Wild Bill

    Soc Sec is not and never was a reason for the national debt. The money stolen from it IS. Repayment of the IOUs are, as with all the alphabet soup departments that took the stolen money. Starting with them the money needs to be repaid first and then kept independent of the general funds. The same applies to medicare/medicaid.
    Money taken in the name of specific use needs to be held ONLY for those specific uses. If that requires a Constitutional Amendment, so be it.

    • 45caliber

      Any fund that requires savings and isn’t to be touched for years will grow fast. Particularly if it is a government fund. SS is no different. Originally, when retirement funds were first set up at companies, the amount grew to as much or more than the company was worth. The temptation grew to be too much for the company officials and they spent it.

      So SS was brought in. And it grew and grew and grew by many millions a year. And the officals couldn’t stand to see it sitting there.

      Union retirement programs are in the same fix. The officials couldn’t stand to see it sitting there unused. But then, they have Oblama in office to repay all they’ve spent, don’t they?

      Now the government is eyeing the 401k’s with greedy interest. As pointed out, over 6 TRILLION dollars is sitting there, unused, as people save for retirements. And just think what our politicians can do with that much money!

      • Pat R

        Sounds like the Durham Trust Funds (possibly now about 100 Trillion Dollars). This money is to be used by “We the People” to relieve our
        Individual debts. Unknown to us until recently, this money has accumulated over all these years. The crooks in DC did not think that we would ever figure this out.
        Recently, some Individuals have actually broken the “code” and successfully accessed the fund. There is also accounts in Foreign Banks that belong to “We the People”. This money is from the fall of Russia.
        The way things are going now, we will never be publicly informed of this Trust or be able to use it.

        http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org

        • 45caliber

          Pat:

          Back when Reagon first took office he set up the Grace Commission to determine how we could pay off our debts. (This commission became the Citizens Against Government Waste later.) They found that … surprise! … we didn’t have a debt then. It seems that the FHA requires all people who get loans to pay for loan insurance up front. If they default on the loan, the FHA gets the full amount from the insurance … and they get the property. They were investing the money in other country’s bonds, etc. From all over the world.

          According to them at the time, we owed about $1.5 trillion and we had over $3 trillion in those bonds.

          Immediately they stopped talking about the debt and began talking about the deficeit. That was one reason Reagon didn’t mind borrowing more money – it was already covered just in this one account.

          The only thing is that then and now, I can hardly see these other countries being willing to cash in those bonds or trade them for money they owe us. So to me, they are worthless.

          There are also other accounts where we “loan” money to other governments in return for some paper from them. But those too aren’t counted against our debt or deficeit.

          So – ON PAPER – we don’t have as bad a problem as they say, unless of course they have cashed in the bonds and spent that money.

          I’d like to see an audit of the Fed. Reserve but I’d love to see an audit of the federal government that actually meant something too.

  • http://com i41

    When every the b–l s–t of education needs more money is a joke.

  • jopa

    Michelle Bachman and Christine O Donnell in 2012.They are undoubtedley the two smartest republicans to come along in a long time.Sarah for secretary of state now that she knows where Russia might be.

  • http://none Jerry

    I am a long term Republican. But I must admit I get embarassed when many in my party continue to beat this drum about the birth certificate. Seriously, do you think the heads of our party are so dumb as to downplay ANY EVIDENCE that Obama was not in fact a legimate citizen ?? They have scoured over all the facts (100 fold) and have deemed this is a dead end.
    We really need to move on to issues where the facts are on our side.

    • Dale on the left coast

      The BC doesn’t matter, Bama Senior was a British Citizen, so Bama II is also . . . he is not a “natural born citizen” as was McCain (vetted by Congress).

      • eddie47d

        I keep hoping you use his birth, right up to the next election. That tom foolery could push Obama over the top and give him a slam dunk.

        • 45caliber

          Not if the ten states now working on legislation to require one be shown all pass it. How can he show his when he doesn’t even know where he was born himself?

        • Vicki

          Why was it ok for Congress to thoroughly vet McCain but not to even look at Obamas birth info?

          • smilee

            There was no obvious reason to, they knew he was born in the US and they also knew McCain was born in Panama. Their resolution did not vett him only the courts can do that but there was no reason to as his Dad was in the Military and serving there so no legal question over his citizenship existed. This was pure politics and apparently it worked on you and that is why they did it.

          • http://naver samurai

            Who controlled the Congress at the time, GOP or libs? This should be good enough for an answer. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Pat R

        Birth Certificate is not the issue. The adoption by Lolo Sotera (sp) puts all that to rest. His original BC was sealed by law when he was adopted and as far as the law goes, “It never existed”. Obama reclaiming his birth father’s name (unlawfully) has been the basis of all this BS!
        No, I’m not Democrat! Neither Republican.

        • smilee

          He was never adopted but even if he was that does not negate Obama’s citizenship as he was born in the US and that gives him citizenship automatically.

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry moron, but in Indonesia they do not practice duel citizenship. If he was adopted by his stepfather, then by the laws of Indonesia, he had to give up his U.S. citizenship to go to a school and be adopted by him. Ergo, he would have to reapply again. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • NDakDave

    The Tea Party gets to respond to the State of the Union Address and then Michelle Backman can’t even look into the camera? I know that EVERYONE uses a teleprompter, but at least set it up properly. The Tea Party response could have been a chance to gain some credibility and bring more people into the movement, but having Backman stare off-camera for her ENTIRE rebuttal, well, it’s just embarrassing. Did they purposely do that to make her look bad?

    • Papa

      You must have been watching on “TELEVISION” because, had you been watching her speech speech “Live Online” you would have seen her looking directly into the “Tea Party” camera, toward the group she was addressing.

      FoxNews (or someone) recorded her speech for later broadcast on television. Their camera was “offset” from the one she was addressing…

      • Curtis

        Papa? Are you saying that the great Tea Party hope… one of the potential 2012 Tea Party Presidential candidates… is so media savvy that she can’t handle more than one camera? Really? She can’t rip her eyes away from the teleprompter for a second to address the other camera in the room? What’s she going to do when there’s a camera from EVERY network there? Doesn’t appear that she’s very clever now does it? If you keep showing performances like this… Sarah Palin is going to start looking like a genius. Then again, maybe that’s the plan… parade a bunch of unprepared, untalented Tea Party members in front of a camera to make Palin look good by comparison. Very clever indeed!

        • smilee

          Very good observation

          • Curtis

            Thank you Smilee.

          • http://naver samurai

            Too much kool aid for the both of you! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • ONTIME

    There is going to have to be a national move towards integrity and the will to reinstitute Constitutional law and remove the activist in the courts. As of now we are ruderless and without the legal system we expect to investigae, prosecute and incarcerate those who put themselves above the law and routinely flaunt the fact they break the law regularly because they fear no retribution. The Eltisim that pervades the courts and the public law is out of control and law is written for those who are meant to follow and those meant to rule by decree.

  • Stan Smith

    The Repubes Going to shoot themselves in the foot again! Jerry Doyle Nails it! FOX News is getting bad as Libtard Media
    http://www.jerrydoyle.com/Jerry-Doyle-Show-Vegas-Cam-January-26th-2011
    and jerry made a comment about Henry Paulson on FOX That he should be arrested and FOX did not really like the comment, Jerry is correct about FOX, US no news media = CRAP

  • http://com i41

    Worring about Onumnutts birth certifacate is just a mild irration. Bring up the layers of tax cheats in Onumnutts adminstration, also his appointees like Dork Daschle or Turbo Geithner and the dems close relationship with Wall Street and corporation. Plus the Greasy Rangel ability to get away with his fraud approved by his fellow crimminals. Along with his Government Energy czar, Jeff Imelt who took taxpayer stimulas money to creat jobs in China, and is going to guide the jobs creation program. I think the unemployed will remember what dorks where in total control!

    • Winnie

      i41, name changing makes you and all the rest of the name changers, both republicans and democrats look like six-year-olds and with a mind of a child. Children use name-calling as one of the ways to get back at the people who makes them feel bad, sad, inferior. So to all of you who do not call anyone by their true names proves that you are childish with a childish mind. I would like to see your comments with all names correctly spelled and maybe some people will take you seriously. At least it might make your statements a little more credible.

  • http://www.jimforeman.com Jim Foreman

    You don’t have to listen to Obama for an hour, here’s his State of the Union address condensed into one minute.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDE8q93AnVU

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Jim Foreman,
      I can condense it even more.
      “Ahem, ladies and gentlemen, YOU ARE SCREWED!”

  • Norm

    Aside from this Tea Party split, there is a noticeable rift in the Republican Party over Bachmann’s address. House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) called Bachman’s rebuttal-after-the-rebuttal “a little unusual.” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), on the other hand, said Bachmann’s Tea Party response is “legitimate.”

    Fact-checking
    Media Matters did the best and most thorough fact-checking. They noted the following:
    1. Failed Stimulus – the stimulus didn’t fail. The economy has been steadily growing under Obama.
    2. Unemployment spiked under Obama – actually it steadily rose under Bush and Obama’s Recovery Act slowed the rate then began adding jobs to the economy.
    3. Blamed Bush’s 2009 deficit on Obama – she simply attributed the 2009 deficit to Obama when Bush is to blame for it.
    4. 16,500 IRS Agents Lie – this lie was based on guesswork and false assumptions by some other Republicans.
    5. Affordable Care Act will force people on to government-run health care – there is no government run health care under the it.
    6. Affordable Care Act doesn’t allow for insurance sales across state lines – The AFA allows for it.
    7. Told the US has highest corporate tax rate lie & failed to recognize that Obama called for lower corporate tax rates.
    I noted four additional lies they didn’t debunk but have been debunked elsewhere repeatedly.
    [8]She told the “Obamacare increases the debt” lie.
    [9] She told her favorite cap and trade lies.
    [10] She told the lie that reducing regulation encourages the mythical “job creators” to create jobs. She hit another favorite that the US has the highest corporate tax rate in the world. [11] She also lies in blaming regulations as why our jobs are going overseas.
    CNN fact-checked her 16,500 new IRS employees lie and labeled it “at best, misleading.”
    That’s 11 bald-faced lies in 6 minutes. That’s just about a lie every 30 seconds. Typical Bachmann.
    Reaction
    I’ll start with Fox News. Apparently, they didn’t think her rebuttal was a great idea and wrote a post about her rebuttal conflicting with Ryan’s.
    An indication that her rebuttal bombed is that I cannot find her rebuttal on their main page nor on their politics page. That’s saying something.

  • Norm

    Apparently, Majority Leader John Boehner didn’t even listen to Bachmann’s rebuttal:
    House Speaker John Boehner said he didn’t catch Republican Rep. Michele Bachmann’s response to the president’s State of the Union address Tuesday night, a subtle snub of the tea party favorite.
    “I had other obligations,” the Ohio Republican told reporters Wednesday morning.

    • http://deleted Claire

      “Weeper of the House” no doubt sees Bachmann and Palin as competitors.
      Someone else posted “Weeper of the House” the other night and I thought it was hilarious.

    • smilee

      Norm, factcheck agrees with you and so do I (C&P)

      * In the official response, Rep. Paul Ryan said that “trust in government is at an all-time low now that the size of government is at an all-time high.” He’s wrong on both counts. Trust has been lower, and government has been larger, in the past.
      * In her own rebuttal to Obama, Rep. Michele Bachmann said that the bailout cost “$700 billion.” The net cost actually is estimated to be much less — $25 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office.
      In addition, the two Republicans repeated several false and misleading charges we’ve already written about. Our readers will be familiar with many of them, such as claims that the stimulus didn’t create jobs (it did), that the health care law hurts job growth (experts say the impact will be small), and that “16,500 IRS agents” will enforce that law (that’s based on a flawed, partisan analysis).

      • http://naver samurai

        Same lies as before! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • warner mobley

    It was not American soldiers who raised the flag on Iwo Jima. It was US Marines who raised the flag on Iwo Jima

    • Curtis

      You’re absolutely right Warner… it was the USMC that raised the flag on Iwo Jima… both times. The famous iconic picture was actually the second flag raising which occurred the next day. Of the six marines in the second picture… only three left that island alive.

      • http://naver sook young

        One of them was a naval medic. Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

    • Norm

      The power of words:

      One dictionary defines the word Marine as, an infantry soldier associated with a navy. No doubt there are many references to the Royal Marines as soldiers back through history. But we need not go back that far. Our own U.S. Marine Corps has a long listing of examples supporting the notion of Marines as soldiers.

      A U.S. Marine Corps Recruiting Service poster, dated May 1866, announces that it is seeking MEN for its ranks; it then goes on to refer to such recruits as SOLDIERS no less than six times, and not once using the word Marine or Marines! (Ref the book, The Marines, by Simmons/Moskin, Marine Corps Heritage Foundation, 1998)

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