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Good Old-Fashioned Lynching Music

July 13, 2013 by  

They make shoes for that? Was George Zimmerman on the grassy knoll? And has “Client 9″ met his match — again? All this — plus — “Sir? That’s the ladies’ room.” Presented in 1080 hi-def, FOR FREE! It’s The Great Eight, from the Personal Liberty Digest™!
 

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Jay Carney appreciates your questions…

    Over the course of 444 briefings since taking the job, the White House press secretary has dodged a question at least 9,486 times.

    CATEGORY
    I don’t have the answer (1905 times)
    I would refer you to someone else (1383 times)
    You already know the answer (1125 times)·
    I’m not going to tell you (939 times)·
    Not that I know of (927 times)
    I don’t want to (588 times)·
    I’m not sure (549 times)·
    I won’t speculate (525 times)·
    No comment (429 times)·
    I’ll get back to you (387 times)·
    It’s a good question (381 times)·
    See yesterday’s non-response (231 times)·
    The Puppet won’t tell me (117 times)

    Did he answer your question?

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Here is an article showing the next Governor of Texas supports the 2nd Amendment and the 10 Commandments.
      http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/11666/defender-of-2nd-amendment-and-10-commandments-to-be-next-governor-of-texas/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face.”
      Ronald Reagan

      • nick

        Do you mean the one that’s a genocidal,sadomasochistic,ethnic cleansing,racist,infanticidal,petty,homophobic,unjust control freak,who encourages slavery and women’s inequality,but to believe this you need to have it forced on you by a parental or church figure while you’re young.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          In your talking you just admitted that you choose Satan, the other “savior” of mankind which allows for your desire for death by abortion, slavery, women’s inequality, genocide, homosexual predation, sadomasochistic, ethnic cleansing, racism, pettiness, injustice. By the way, All that hate God love Death (in its many forms).

          • Karolyn

            There is nothing wrong with the cessation of life form of death. And what makes you think that nick hates God? Anybody who does not hold your beliefs hates God?

          • Vigilant

            Wake up Karolyn, and quit being so literalist. It’s death of spirit, death of soul that comes from those things.

          • WTS/JAY

            Karolyn: There is nothing wrong with the cessation of life form of death.

            Boy, are you sick! Sick enough to work in an abortion- klinik!

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          No response due to lack of intellectual content. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Jay may be the penultimate pragmatist.
      It is said that all men have a price at which they can be bought.

      • NC

        BATKI, YOU MAY BE RIGHT ABOUT “PRICE” AS LONG AS ALL REALIZE THAT INCLUDES CONSERVATIVE AND ULTRA CONSERVATIVE POLITICIANS AS WELL!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Your reading comprehension is reprehensible.

        • Bill

          There you go again, NC, opening your mouth again. We all know what that means

      • Ted Crawford

        As, clearly do all women. That being said I found it very sad and telling that Progressive women set their price so low in November, $9 for a Birth Control Pill!

        • Nadzieja Batki

          When that expression came about it was understood that “all men” and “all women” were included in the saying. I mean it the same way.

          • Ted Crawford

            I do appologize to you, it was apparent that was the case. I simply could not resist the temptaion!

    • FreedomFighter

      <p<At 10k Jay Carney will reach “Super Weasel” status and qualify for work at CNN, MSNBC, CBS, and the part of Sargent Schulz of Hogan’s Heros.
      Laus DeoSemper FI

    • WTS/JAY

      Good one!

  • emsaravia

    Jay Carney seems sooo tired of sooo much lying for the looter, liar in chief , what will happen to him when no longer a useful IDIOT. what color bus he will be thrown under? Jay was a decent guy forced to lie.I can tell he’s getting nauseated by witnessing crimes, deception, looting of the Chicago gang.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Except your last two sentences are not “true”. Jay makes his choices all by himself and when he lies at the podium he chooses to lie or the definition of lying has become subjective and lying may have a different definition for him than for the American people. He does not appear as being blackmailed into telling lies so to him what he is saying is “truth”. As to being nauseated about witnessing “crimes, deception, looting of the Chicago gang” that is doubtful, he may see this and decide to look the other way or it is not done in his viewing or all the words you used do not have the same meaning of actions as for the American people.

    • Ted Crawford

      NAH, he’s just been experiencing servere pain in his Spincter Muscle lately! Apparently Obama doesn’t use as much lotion as Jeff Dunham!

  • John

    Excellent Ben as always. We people with a brain are all very tired of the Ovomit administrations lies. The democrats lies and the left in general. The pendulum is swinging the other way now and the blowback is going to be very difficult for the liars. To survive they are going to have to run and hide out of this country. Employers will have on their forms, are you a democrat? If noted they pick someone, anyone else.

  • Al Chemist

    Ben, you are the best at satire. Feel sorry for Zimmerman no matter what. If he is found not guilty, he still has a price on his head.

    The New Black Panther Party put out a $10 k bounty on his head “Wanted Dead or Alive.” They also issued calls to murder white people:

    “Kill these racist honkeys, these crackers, these pigs, these pink people, it has been long overdue!”

    • japoa

      Not only will G.Z. have a price on his head , the 6 jurors who dared to examine the evidence with their heads instead of their heart are going to be real popular with the brothas and sistas !

    • Osbro

      Where do you get this kind of information Al ?

    • Osbro

      Where do you get this kind of information Al ?

      • Al Chemist

        The info comes from various sources. Just about any search engine will pull up the information. I mostly use Google. The above information came from http://www.examiner.com There are links there to the original posts.

        • NC

          Al, one thing the “various sources” can’t pull up is a true eye (ear) witness to the entire event and the entire language of the event! So they are guessing like everyone else!! You are a conservative so take the conservative position that YOU are never wrong BUT YOU’RE STILL GUESSING LIKE ALL THE REST!

          • Nadzieja Batki

            By your own verbiage you admitted that you don’t know as well but you made a judgment against Zimmerman that he is guilty.

          • NC

            Batki, where have I ever ‘MADE A JUDGMENT AGAINST ZIMMERMAN THAT HE IS GUILTY!”? I SAID QUITE PLAINLY THAT WITH NO EYE WITNESS OF THE ENTIRE EVENTS THAT EVERYONE IS GUESSING IF HE IS GUILTY OR NOT! HE IS THE DEFENDENT AND ANY DOUBT GOES TO ZIMMERMAN, THE DEFENDANT AND THAT IS FINE WITH ME IF THE JURY SO FINDS!

            If THE JURY FINDS THERE IS ENOUGH CIRCUMSTANTIONAL EVIDENCE TO CONVICT HIM THAT IS FINE WITH ME ALSO!

            THAT IS WHAT THE COURT SYSTEM IS FOR!

            THE JURY HAS JUST SPOKEN! THEY FOUND HIM NOT GUILTY! SO I GUESS ALL OF THE FEARS HERE THAT HE WOULD BE FOUND GUILTY FOR POLITICAL REASONS WERE ILL FOUNDED! AGAIN!!

          • Al Chemist

            What am I guessing about?
            (1) That the New Black Panther Party put a price on Zimmerman’s head.
            (2) That there are many tweets that threatened Zimmerman’s life.
            (3) That there are many tweets that threatened to kill Whitey.
            (4) That there are many tweets threatening to riot if Zimmerman is found not guilty.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            I was reading Atlas Shrugs, Pamela Geller’s site, and she makes mention of threats on Zimmerman’s life and that he won’t live out the year.

            How many more proofs do you need besides PLD and Atlas Shrugs?

          • JeffH

            NC, you are an ignorant progressive…and you prove daily that you will always be an ignorant progressive!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Did you think that there would not be people who would not go on the internet and not brag that they mean to stir up racial strive and hurt Zimmerman?

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Definitely not from the WHORE MSM, or WH, or UNjustice deportment.

  • Vigilant

    Waiting for Karolyn to come on here and carp about Ben’s singing abilities.
    Go for it, Karolyn.

  • Williamsjohnb

    Mr. Zimmerman will never be safe whether he is convicted of these trumped up charges or aquitted. The African American agenda has declared him a murderer and that’s that. Minorities rule in America. Mr. Zimmerman doesn’t realize that the Constitution has been trashed and the First and Eighth Amendments rights that he assumed he has, have been over ruled by our President and his gang of thugs.

  • JeffH

    From Communist to Conservative
    http://www.ammoland.com/2013/07/from-communist-to-conservative/#axzz2YwPRP3gl

    “The law of socialist economy is this: from each according to his exploitability, to the nomenklatura (the elite governing group) according to its greed. Not only does the socialist economy not produce wealth at a rate a free economy does; the socialist economy consumes wealth it accumulated in the past.”

    David Horowitz has authored many books and articles. His output is extraordinary and his conversion from communism to conservatism became his mission in life as he sought to explain first to himself and then to all others who would listen why he so deeply believed in a system dedicated to defeating capitalism, imposing Soviet-style dictatorships, and bringing down the United States, the champion of liberty in the world.

    “The truths revealed that we were just what our enemies had always said we were. There were spies among us, and we were agents for a tainted cause. All of us had treason in our hearts in the name of a future that would never come.”

    “In 1956 power shifted in the Kremlin and my parents along with the rest of the progressive left discovered that the socialist future they all served was a monstrous lie. They thought they were fighting for social justice, for the powerless and the poor. But in reality they had served a gang of cynical despots who had slaughtered more peasants, caused more hunger and human misery, and killed more leftists like themselves than all the capitalist governments since the beginning of time.”

    Consider now that the communist movement in America, misleadingly called “progressive”, has patiently spent decades since the 1960s transforming the nation. It has infiltrated and taken control of the nation’s educational system from kindergarten to its universities. It controls the Democratic Party. Much of the nation’s mainstream media is the handmaiden of liberalism. And it has elected the most leftist president the nation has ever had. Twice!

    My friend who goes under the nom-de-plume of J.D. Longstreet at his blog, Insight on Freedom, recently wrote, “I think one of the most difficult obstacles those of us old freedom loving Americans have to confront is the near total ignorance of younger Americans about what they have already lost — and — have yet to lose. It is a hurdle that must be removed, surmounted, or circumvented … somehow. See, younger Americans have never experienced, nor enjoyed, the freedom we older Americans have. They have never had it, therefore, they do not miss it — nor feel the yearning for it that we do.”

    Its goal remains the destruction of capitalism, the freedoms that most nations have never achieved, and which Americans are at risk of losing.

    – Quotes from David Horowitz’s new book, “The Black Book of the American Left”

    • Bill

      Good article, Jeff
      I would to add that the global warming movement has been very smart marketing by the socialists. It is so emotional, it has become like a religion. When you want to impose a new law or regulation that will further hinder the free market place just say that it helps mother earth and all the little birdy’s and fishy’s.
      MARKETING GENIUS!!! If you want to make a fortune, just start your own carbon credit exchange. You will be selling nothing to everybody for a lot of money. ANOTHER MARKETING GENIUS!!!

      • JeffH

        Bill, are you aware that it was the UN’s former “environmentalist” idealist Maurice Strong who brought the idea of “global warming” to the forefront of politics.

        Currently Strong, who is one of the board of directors of the Chicago Climate Exchange, has been tied to some controversies and conspiracies when tackling global warming. The latest includes a ten trillion dollar project.

        Now Strong is rumored to be working with President Obama and former Vice-President Al Gore on a project that will try to legislate a bill that will provide upwards of ten trillion dollars to the Chicago Climate Exchange.
        It’s not about the climate, it’s always about the money…yours, mine and everyone elses money that is.

        • Bill

          You are right on the money, Jeff
          If we could just get more people to be aware of the real story. As I said, it has been marketed so well that it has become a religion for the ignorant masses

          • JeffH

            Bill, too many people(sheeple) are still listening to the progressive media as their source of information…they haven’t discovered alternate sources that actually break down the negatives of these types of pre-parroted ponzi schemes.

          • Dave

            Yes, and still other sheeple buy into any conspiracy put forth by their conservative masters because they NEED to believe. Some people believe Breitbart, Mises, Heritage, Fox news, World News are credible sources with no ax to grind.

          • JeffH

            They’re coming to take you away Ha, Ha. He, He, Ho, Ho!

            To the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time…he, he to the happy home…ha, ha…
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

          • Bill

            Yes Dave and some people like you believe in the easter bunny

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            and Santa Klouse.

          • WTS/JAY

            and super-obama…up up and CRASH!

          • Bill

            Keep the faith, Brother

          • JeffH

            Always fellow patriot, always!

        • cumiadom

          Not everybody’s money. Count out Al Gore’s money. He is only the receiver not the quarterback.

          • JeffH

            You’re right of course…that is a given!

  • Bill

    I wonder how the press would report this if Zimmerman was black and Trayvon was white

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      Bill, are you kidding?
      Did you see any press’ reaction on the Violence tour in Chicago, which
      took place on the Holiday weekend, during which 12 people were killed (three under age 14) and over 70 wounded.

  • Bill

    This is such a shame that our press and current administration is promoting racism and we have regressed 50 years.
    In the words of a famous philosopher, “Can’t We Just All Get Along”

  • FreedomFighter

    One of your best Ben!

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

  • Dave

    What if Zimmerman minded his own business instead of wanting to be a oppressive lawman just like the right wing loons complain about? Just a question?
    Zimmerman infringed on Martin’s liberty. I know some of the kooks here would have pulled their gun if they were being followed closely and having the police on the cell phone of the guy following as they were doing what again?
    Oh yeah… nothing.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      What was Zimmerman hired for? If he was mind his own business and not of the people who hired him, they would have fired him for not doing the job they hired him for.

      • Dave

        Where was following people who are not engaged in an illegal activity part of Zimmerman’s job description.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Keep talking Dave. the stupider you will come across. Unless the homeowner’s association had a little room with screens to watch or a watchbox at the entrance, Zimmerman was either on foot patrol or a vehicle depending on the size of the subdivision.

          • Dave

            We already know your intelligence level FF, the man was on foot patrol. Martin was caught walking through the complex while black and that was enough to have Zimmerman follow him and call the police. If someone did that to you or any other gun nut here, you may have pulled your weapon on Zimmerman and told him to back the hell off if you did not shoot him already. Martin just kicked his butt.. that was enough to make Zimmerman the executioner in your so called mind

        • cumiadom

          Casing houses for a future robbery opportunity may not be illegal. But it’s a suspicious activity anywhere that has experienced a high crime rate.

          • Jeff

            That’s your own prejudice talking. There’s no evidence that was the case, but your bringing it up illustrates the prejudice Black men face every day. Watch “Fruitvale Station.”

          • WTS/JAY

            Jeff: There’s no evidence that was the case, but your bringing it up illustrates the prejudice Black men face every day. Watch “Fruitvale Station.”

            That’s just your prejudice talking, Jeff!

          • Dave

            More conservative racism… how redundant. There is no evidence of “casing” except in your mind. What size robe to you wear Mr Grand Wizard?

        • Vigilant

          Hey, smartass, how are you going to determine that nothing illegal is going down UNLESS you follow them?

          • Dave

            Hey Dufus,
            How about I follow you around because I don’t like the way you look and call the police on you even though you’ve done nothing wrong. I am sure you are fine with that. It is apparent that the moron brigade here has not bothered to read all of the police transcripts or listen to the ENTIRE call put in by Zimmerman.

          • Vigilant

            I repeat, “Hey, smartass, how are you going to determine that nothing illegal is going down UNLESS you follow them?”

            Answer the question, Mr. Alinsky, or keep your pie hole shut.

            By the way, Neighborhood Watch means “watch.” For what part of that do you have a mental block?

          • Dave

            Hey Dufus,

            What official training as a police officer does Zimmerman have?

            Oh that’s right… None.

            What did Zimmerman report to the police?

            “He looked suspicious”

            Vigilant,

            If some guy followed you around after you told that person to stop and you are minding your own business, you mean to tell me you will not have words etc with that person?

            You can stop with the ignorance at any time.

          • JeffH

            Lookin’ in the mirror again Dave47D?
            You can’t fix stupid either…especially the stupid in an ignorant self proclaimed progressive.

          • Vigilant

            Twice I’ve asked you a simple question that you were too simple to answer. Your sophomoric diversionary tactics may have scored you points in middle school debating, they carry no weight here.

            Answer my question and I’ll answer yours.

          • Vigilant

            But the jury did just that, and found him not guilty. Your response?

      • Karolyn

        He was not “hired” to do anything.

        • Jeff

          Exactly. He was what’s called an “officious intermeddler.”

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            WOW, how touching it is – two Liberal soul mates chirping.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npA7HwnMqSQ

          • Dave

            WOW, you are med swapping with poor Jeffrey. Its so obvious that both of you are crazier than usual today.
            Let me follow you as if you stole something and lets see what your reaction would be after the first warning you gave.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            What did you drink today?

          • JeffH

            Alondra, probably a shot of “yo ho ho and a pile of 666″.

          • WTS/JAY

            With a chaser of Jeff-nonsense!

          • JeffH

            LMAO! It’s so nice to know I’m inside your head today…from all of your comments it’s pretty obvious who’s crazy and who’s not.
            Hint, hint…it ain’t Alondra or JeffH.
            Hint, hint…it’s that eddie wannabee…looney Dave47D.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Personal attacks and arguments to ridicule. Hurry up and go home before your mother finds out you have snuck out of the basement. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=144096
            This is about what our Christian founding fathers thought about prayer. Something Dave needs badly.

          • WTS/JAY

            Much like you, hey Jeff?

          • Jeff

            It’s good to know there are some things one can always depend upon. When I return from the office or from running or from playing tennis, I know my dogs will be at the door waiting for me, tails wagging, tongues hanging out of their mouths, just waiting to jump on me and lick my face, grateful for any attention I bestow. I had no idea you parrots were just as loyal.

          • WTS/JAY

            So the only thing that will pay attention to you is a dog? Don’t you have any human beings in your life, Jeff? Hmm, that’s weird!

          • WTS/JAY

            Jeff: It’s good to know there are some things one can always depend upon. When I return from the office or from running or from playing tennis, I know my dogs will be at the door waiting for me, tails wagging, tongues hanging out of their mouths, just waiting to jump on me and lick my face, grateful for any attention I bestow.

            That’s beautiful, Jeff! Hey, btw, how much do you love love your dog? Enough to marry it?

            Puppy love: man marries his dog

            You may now kiss the… dog? Joseph Guiso ties the knot with his best friend, Honey the labrador.

            A YOUNG Toowoomba man yesterday tied the knot with his best friend – a five-year-old labrador.

            In perhaps a first for the Garden City, Laurel Bank Park hosted the wedding of Joseph Guiso and Honey, a labrador he adopted five years ago.

            Thirty of the couple’s closest friends and family were in attendance for the emotional ceremony, held at dusk.

            “You’re my best friend and you make every part of my day better,” Mr Guiso’s vows read.

            The couple decided on the location – and to tie the knot – after stumbling upon a wedding in Laurel Bank Park during an afternoon walk…

            http://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/man-marrys-dog-city-first-toowoomba/710538/#.UdqjXDthF58.facebook

          • Jeff

            Only a truly deluded individual would go there. I didn’t mention family because my wife and kids don’t wait for me at the door. They have lives. So the comparison to your incessant need for attention wouldn’t work. As for your views on cross-species marriage, take it up with Bill O’Reilly.

          • Bob666

            You Jeff,
            to compare Jay to your dogs is really insulting your dogs.

          • Jeff

            I know, but sometimes they annoy me and I yell, “Jay, stop that barking. It’s the middle of the night. Are you a moron or what?”

          • Bob666

            Yo Jeff,
            Do ya think we could get one of those bark collars for Jay?
            Catholics…….Zap
            Jews…………Zap
            Masons……….Zap
            Homo’s……….Zap
            Blacks……….Zap
            Alondra……Dam thing stopped working?

            Well, it was a thought,

          • Jeff

            I think you’re onto something!

    • JeffH

      Dave47D’s comment is a fine example of the ignorant progressive mind at work…illogical & emotional, illogical & emotional, illogical & emotional…the reality of the situation be damned!
      Your rant is parroted straight from the (racist) media and the pleading and begging (no way can I prove my case)prosecutor.

      FYI Dave47D, the reality is that you don’t know squat.

      neighborhood watch –

      neigh·bor·hood watch

      1. crime prevention by residents: a program to raise awareness of crime and crime prevention within local communities, with members taking part in various initiatives, sometimes involving the patrolling of streets

      2. (noun) a neighborhood surveillance program or group in which residents keep watch over one another’s houses, patrol the streets, etc., in an attempt to prevent crime …

      • Dave

        LOL… get back to the gun range… you are unbalanced as ever. You conservative anti-freedom phonies rail against the Gov intruding into your “so called lives” but when a guy like Zimmerman does it, its ok in your book.
        What was Martin doing again when Zimmerman felt compelled to follow Martin then call the police? Nothing but walking through his development. The only racist here is you.
        Jeffrey, your reality is that you don’t know squat and your racist conservative ideals get exposed along with your hero authors here every day.

        • JeffH

          Sure Dave47D…and pigs can fly too! LMAO!

          If, If’s and’s or but’s were worth anything at all you ignorant progressives would all be rich.

          My, look how Dave47D is coming unglued… of course his emotions are to blame for his lack of self control. I wouldn’t be surprised if he peed in his panties too? Just sayin”

          But…oh how the parroting continues…between unhinged Jeff, Dave47D and 666 it’s a race to see who’s gonna parrot their fears first by repeating the guns and gun range statement.

          Too hot at the gun range today anyway, but…

          The pressure cooker did it!

          ~300 MILLION AMERICANS DID NOT ASSAULT ANYONE USING ANY FIREARM.

          ~300 MILLION Americans DIDN’T SHOOT anyone AT ALL. Not even by accident.

          Join the NRA, GOA, SAF and the rest of us in telling them to STOP PUNISHING THE INNOCENT

          STOP IT
          STOP IT NOW

          • Dave

            Wow… a segue into a completely non-relevant topic. Did you and Alondra swap meds just for kicks today?

          • vicki

            ad hominem

          • Dave

            Coming from the queen of ad hominem and her court jester Jeffrey…

          • JeffH

            Dave47D sounds eerily like eddie…and just as stupid!
            POLLY WANT A CRACKER? baaarrraaaccckkkkkkk!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Here is some news from North Carolina that will anger people like Dave.
            http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2013/july/north-carolina-aims-to-restrict-abortions-as-part-of-anti-s.html
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “Masonry ought forever to be abolished. It is wrong – essentially wrong – a seed of evil, which can never produce any good.”
            John Quincy Adams
            6th President of the U.S.
            Devout Christian

          • Nadzieja Batki

            The same description will fit you and Karolyn.
            Tell us again why you and Karolyn show up on this site to humiliate yourselves or is there some martyrdom reward from your handlers. It can’t possibly be that you have a grudge sack that you hang up and fill with grudges and promise yourselves that one day you will get even with this site. By the way you won’t.

          • JeffH

            They’re coming to take you away Ha, Ha. He, He, Ho, Ho!

            To the funny farm where life is beautiful all the time…he, he… to the happy home…ha, ha…to the SPCA ya mutt, He, He, Ha, Ha, Ho, Ho…to the funny farm!
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

    • vicki

      Since Martin attacked Zimmerman and was sitting on top of Zimmerman bashing Zimmermans head in with a sidewalk, I would suggest that it was Martin who was guilty of infringing on Zimmerman’s liberty.

      • Dave

        Why was Zimmerman and Martin fight? Martin just didn’t like Zimmerman out of the blue? Is that it?
        I bet is someone was following you. Your first act would be to say “what is your problem? Stop it” which Martin did. Then when that someone keeps doing it, you may pull your gun or get into a physical altercation with that person to get them to stop it since you are doing nothing wrong. Martin beat Zimmerman up. Zimmerman could not handle himself and felt the need to kill Martin. If Zimmerman only minded his own business when Martin was walking through his neighborhood, Martin would still be alive. Zimmerman would continue going on to be the fearful panicky coward with delusions of being a law enforcement officer he was denied admission to become.

        • Rocketman

          While I have no idea of exactly what was going on in Martin’s head when he went after Zimmerman is it just possible that Martin was walking around to “case” houses in the area and he saw Zimmerman as someone who could identify him and get him convicted of burglary if he was following him? Did you ever think of that?

          • Dave

            Oh, so you are going into the realm of “its just possible”, interjecting your ideas into why Martin was walking through the neighborhood.

            That is weak oh fighter against freedom.

          • vicki

            Pot, meet kettle.

          • Arkham

            Not at… Martin DID belong there. Given the general distrust between the black and Hispanic communities, and Zimmerman’s appearance at the time (he did look like a cholo and was not in uniform) Martin may have been afraid of Zimmerman as he was approached… all we can do is speculate as the only person alive that really knows what happened is Zimmerman and he, for obvious reasons, is being quiet.

            Let’s be fair, both men were wrong and that’s how things got out of hand and resulted in a tragic death.

            This is not a conservative/liberal issue. It is an issue between two misguided men who, when all is said and done, will have suffered the consequences of their ill-considered actions.

          • Arkham

            Martin was walking home… He was staying in the neighborhood.

            Not to excuse his behavior.

          • vicki

            And your evidence?

        • vicki

          If Martin had not attacked Zimmerman he would still be alive today.

          We can play the “what if” game all weekend

          • Dave

            There I no “what if”
            Martin was doing nothing illegal
            Zimmerman was following him
            Martin told him to stop
            Zimmerman refused and called police and the police told him to “back off”
            Zimmerman refuse to back off
            Martin and Zimmerman exchanged more words and Martin beat Zimmerman up.
            Zimmerman pulled his gun and killed Martin.
            There are no “what if” in this scenario. Zimmerman minds his own business, this whole chain of events does not happen. Case closed.

          • vicki

            Wow were you the mysterious witness that overheard what was said? Why didn’t you come out sooner.

            Btw it is NOT illegal to follow someone. Millions of people do it all the time.

            Most of your conjecture does not even match the evidence we have seen/heard from the MSM let alone the trial.

            Now if there are no what ifs why did you bring up one in your statement about where you said:

            If Zimmerman only minded his own business

          • cumiadom

            Kudos to you. Your precise and accurate reasoning and use of words destroyed the argument Retarded Dave was putting up. That’s the weakness of commies and liberal socialists. They can’t win an argument without yelling, procrastinating and disqualifying the opponent. It’s their only one strategy.

          • Dave

            ad hominem

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            plagiarism

          • Arkham

            We will never know the truth, but the police DID tell Zimmerman to stay in his car. He should have done so.

            Zimmerman at the time also looked like an Hispanic thug with shaved head, so it is understandable that Martin was threatened by the situation, too.

            No matter the outcome, justice will no be served as a tragic situation took place in a needless confrontation between two less-than-brilliant individuals whose egos and anger got out of control.

            The prosecution did not prove Zimmerman’s guilt BEYOND a reasonable doubt, so he will likely walk.

          • JeffH

            Correction, the police never told Zimmerman to stay in his car and the 911 operator did not tell Zimmerman to stay in his car…for the record, the 911 operator did not tell Zimmermnan to stop following Martin. It is not the 911 operators job to do so…he only suggested that they(we) don’t need him(Zimmerman) to do that.
            http://bizsecurity.about.com/od/creatingpolicies/a/A-Transcript-Of-The-George-Zimmerman-Police-Call.htm
            Dispatcher – Are you following him?

            Zimmerman – Yeah.

            Dispatcher – Ok, we don’t need you to do that.

            Zimmerman – Ok. (Zimmerman agreed)

            Dispatcher – Alright sir what is your name?

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Were the police there to see what would happen next if Zimmerman stayed in the car? All of a sudden they(the police) were able to read Martin’s mind by long distance and knew what he would or would not do.

          • Bob666

            Yo Dave,

            This is why he will be found guilty of something-probably Manslaughter:

            “Zimmerman refused and called police and the police told him to “back off”

            “Zimmerman refuse to back off”

            Had Mr, Zimmerman backed off, Mr. Martin would be alive today.

          • Dave

            I agree Bob… manslaughter probably. That seems the most likely and logical conclusion given the evidence.

          • WTS/JAY

            Hey Dave, what do you think his punishment should be?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Dave, the verdict is: “NOT GUILTY” beacose he is NOT guilty.

          • Vigilant

            You lose.

          • WTS/JAY

            Hey 666, i’m truly heart-broken over this. How about you?

          • Bob666

            Yes Jay, I can tell.

            You go into a courtroom and you face your accusations. He was tried by a jury of his piers and they came to a verdict.

            With all it’s flaws, it’s still the best system of justice on the planet.

            That said, remember Casey Marie Anthony and O.J Simpson?

          • JeffH

            666, “He was tried by a jury of his piers”…
            Just letting you know it’s “peers” not “piers”.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Moron Yo-Yo is the Public School Dropout.

          • WTS/JAY

            Speaking of piers, perhaps 666 could take a long jump off of a short one!

          • Bob666

            Actually it’s spell check Jeffery.

            Still over pumping the testosterone?

            And your piers can be found in a psych ward.

          • JeffH

            So sensitive! Blame it on spell check! LMAO at that one!

            Gee whiz 666, I was just trying to be polite for a change…but…I see the angry and hateful ignorant progressive is still rearing his ugly head and saying stupid things in response…not an unexpected response though.

            Have you ever shown your ignorant & stupid comments to your children yet? Just askin’.

          • Bob666

            Oh Jeffery,
            I guess that you and I have been dishing each other for a while. It was spell check, but I did not catch it. once an engineer-always an engineer.

            “.I see the angry and hateful ignorant progressive is still rearing his ugly head and saying stupid things in response” I have to tell you Jeffery, the progressive comments really make me laugh. As far as angry & ignorant -where do you get this?-it does provide amusement.

            Actually, on the couple of days that we spent tied up at marinas that offer wi-fi, they to questioned why I spend time on this site.

            Looking at many of the post, they did see the humor value.

          • JeffH

            666 says ” As far as angry & ignorant -where do you get this?”
            From a very high percentage of your comments 666…although not obvious to you.
            Go figure!

          • JeffH

            Don’t you mean “dissing”, not dishing?
            Oh, there I go again…sheesh!

          • WTS/JAY

            666: This is why he will be found guilty of something-probably Manslaughter.

            Sorry to ruin your fantasy, 666, but Zimmerman was just found; “Not-Guilty”!

            Oh well, better luck next time…(-:

          • Bob666

            That’s funny Spin Master Jay,

            Spin Master Jay: Sorry to ruin your fantasy, 666, but Zimmerman was just found; “Not-Guilty”!

            No “fantasy” ruined Spin Master Jay, I have no skin in the game. But as I stated above, Had Mr, Zimmerman backed off, Mr. Martin would be alive today.

            That was on the news an hour ago, have you been asleep?

          • WTS/JAY

            The Black-Panthers are gearing-up to kick some white-booty, and are looking for volunteers. Interested, 666?

          • Bob666

            Oh Spin Master Jay,

            I love the way that you try to manipulate the moment.

            Let’s see, Homosexuals, Catholics, Muslims, Blacks,

            What orhanization would you feel at home in???????

            Does it start with a K and end with a K????

        • WTS/JAY

          Dave: Martin just didn’t like Zimmerman out of the blue? Is that it?

          Zimmerman just didn’t like blacks? Is that it?

    • ONTIME

      Oppressive, how so? They did not tell Z who was acting as neighborhood watch to stay in his car and he continued to try and keep tabs on a stranger in his area.
      Z does not have a police record or did he have drugs in his system but T had both and the witnesses confirmed T had a anger management prob….you work for the MSM or the government are you going to riot, if there is acquital as asked for by the Faker in the WH?

    • cumiadom

      Martin had the liberty to enter a neighborhood he didn’t belong to and where no one knew him. All the members of said neighborhood knew is that gangs of young black males had been stealing and robbing houses in that same neighborhood so they had organized a watch program of concerned citizens for crime prevention.
      All the football player Martin had to do instead of getting belligerent and aggressive (typical young black male anger problems) was to explain to Z what was he was doing in the area.
      Only retarded left wing extremists as well as ignorant followers and supporters of the Counterfeit-Birth-Certificate in Chief, disagree.

    • WTS/JAY

      What if the Zimmerman trial is being used by the U.S. government and its media to promote racially-driven civil-unrest as another step towards martial law in America?

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra
  • Dave

    So Martin deserved to die by your view? I have a question for you RR. What is it like to be god? Are you the Jesus Christ I keep hearing about that is coming back? Martin was doing nothing wrong when Zimmerman provoked him and Zimmerman was too much of a coward to take the butt kicking he had coming. Martin had to die.

    • carole

      So, in your mind, George Zimmerman had a butt kicking coming to him? At what point during this butt kicking is he allowed to defend himself? Just before he passed out? Was he supposed to let Martin have his turn at him to the extent of pounding his head into the concrete until he was dead? Just curious, you know like they used to tell women who were being raped, just lie back and let him do it. Sorry, but self preservation kicks in with most normal thinking people.

      • Dave

        Yes, So you are equating Zimmerman’s actions with a rape victim really?
        Zimmerman followed Martin because he was black, followed him and called the police, Martin had an initial exchange about Zimmerman following him, Zimmerman kept on following while on the phone with the police. Martin turned around and kicked his butt for it.
        Does that deserve a death sentence? Sorry… I saw Zimmerman’s injuries after the ordeal and yes there was blood as is always the case when your blood flow is elevated and the adrenaline is going but the cuts were minor. He got his butt kicked, no worse than the avg fight in HS.
        But to you and the other Zimmerman apologists… the death sentence was warranted.
        What a bunch of over-reactive cowards you conservatives are.

        • Gimmesumadat Whatyougot

          Agreed Dave, how is it that so many people twist the facts to fit their lack of understanding what really happened. Being a community “watch” group says it all. Watch! Not “do” anything but “watch”.
          A volunteer that does anything that can be equivalent to police action, is a vigilante. A vigilante is an individual or group who undertakes law enforcement “without legal authority”.
          Zimmerman is no cop. And because he is not an on-duty officer, but a vigilante, he should be held to murder charges. Or, it’s the Wild West all over!

          • WTS/JAY

            GW: Agreed Dave, how is it that so many people twist the facts to fit their lack of understanding what really happened. Being a community “watch” group says it all. Watch! Not “do” anything but “watch”.

            That’s what Zimmerman was doing; watching! That is, until Martin attacked him! Kind of hard to just watch when someone is slamming your head against the pavement. Don’t you think so?

          • Gimmesumadat Whatyougot

            WTS/JAY
            Z. was told to stay in his vehicle. He disobeyed the ‘officer in command’ (even if she was on the phone). He provoked a response from Martin by antagonizing him while following him, calling out racial slurs (about Martin) to the officer on the phone.

            The officer continued to tell Z to stop following Martin. What would you do if you were Martin in this case? Where a guy is following you, you don’t know him, he’s talking trash about you on his phone the whole time he’s getting closer and closer.

            Z got the case of whoop-ass he deserved. Martin ended up in a coffin. Martin stood his ground, but should have run for his life! Anyone with a gun can provoke a fight, then kill the other person, and claim it was self defense?

            Florida’s got a New Vigilante in town! And for taking a vigilante’s side, you show what you are made of.

          • WTS/JAY

            I don’t know what happened that night in Florida, and neither does anyone else. The only person who knows exactly what happened is George Zimmerman, and even he might be fuzzy on a few things from the photos I’ve seen of his bloody head. That fact, however, has apparently been lost on everyone who is screaming about race or gun control or Castle Doctrine. It’s not that I don’t have strong opinions on what I think went on with this case, it’s that I recognize that’s what they are—opinions.

          • Gimmesumadat Whatyougot

            Exactly, it’s all opinions. Based on facts. Some facts that the jury gets to see, and some they don’t. There is always political motives that follow (or lead) government (legal / judicial) processes.

            I saw the pictures of Zimmerman’s head. All scalp injuries bleed profusely. His… not so much. I’ve seen worse bicycle injuries. To state that he was having his head slammed repeatedly into the cement, is questionable at best! Think he didn’t know he needed a good alibi?

            Maybe Martin was up to no good. But we don’t give the death sentence to petty burglars, or individuals getting into fist fights. I fear that vigilantes will be using the Zimmerman “defense strategy” from now on.

            If the beating was as bad as he made it sound, he should have a fractured skull, as well as bleeding on the brain. And a whole lot more blood!

            My opinion isn’t based on gun control, or race, but what may have been on Zimmerman’s mind. And only Zimmerman and God knows for sure. But, if the racial slurs that came out of Zimmerman’s mouth while on the phone to 9-1-1 are any indication of what’s in his heart, he was also up to no-good that day.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            He DID Watch!!!

            But when he was attacked by the 17-year old THUG (and not by child, as the WHORE media falsely reported), he JUST defended himself. And the FACTS PROVED that.

            WHAT part do you not understand?

          • Gimmesumadat Whatyougot

            Big deal, a 15 year old caught with stolen jewelery. Must not have been worth much either! Petty crime committed by a petty juvenile. That’s your defense? That’s worth killing someone? Only the crime of murder gets criminals the death penalty in this country.

        • cumiadom

          It is true that there are white criminals and not all blacks are criminals. But a bigger and well documented truth is that a very high and disproportionate number of blacks (relative to the rest of the population) are career criminals.
          You can rant yourself to death but even if you don’t publicly acknowledge it at least you can’t fool yourself ignoring that fact.

        • Vigilant

          You lose, sonny. A jury that had many more details than you found him not guilty.

    • vicki

      Martin deserved to be stopped. Unfortunately there was a high likelihood that he would also die. Which he did. May God have mercy on his soul.

      • Dave

        Proof of that assertion is where Vicki? Conjecture…

        • vicki

          Hardly conjecture. Evidence provided that Martin was beating Zimmerman over the head with a sidewalk.

          • Dave

            No, he was on top of Zimmerman pushing his head into the sidewalk. Slight difference. Looks at his wounds after he was cleaned up. I had worse on my BMX bike as a kid after crashing after a jump. Yours is PURE conjecture.

          • vicki

            Hmmmm…. Lets see. How can we determine that TM initiated the attack.

            Ah. A clue. GZ had a gun. If GZ had been the aggressor he would simply have shot TM. No need for messy sidewalks.

          • WTS/JAY

            Elementary, Mrs. Watson. Elementary!!!

          • vicki

            Indeed :) Which is probably why liberals will never get it.

        • Vigilant

          The jury just answered that question.

    • Karolyn

      Well, obviously, if rr had his way we would be behaving just like in the old wild west – just shoot anybody you deem to be of a certain type.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      So why did Martin choose to play the fool and die a fool’s death.

  • ONTIME

    I don’t know for sure what the outcome is going to be by this jury of six ladies but if it takes them this long to realize there is more than reasonable doubt in a unwitnessed conflict, then I have grave doubt that Mr. Zimmerman will get a acquital as he should. The prosecution proved only one thing Trayvon Martin was shot and as a result died, all their witnesses co-oborated the defenses intent to prove Mr. Z’s innocence of the charges and since then the charges have been reduced, even child abuse was introduced by the
    frustrated prosecution for the government, MSM, Al Sharpton, Jessie jackson, Eric Holder and the faker in the WH…..Looks to me like the railroading fix is still in play…

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Ben, are you islamo”PHOBE”?

    Do not you know that right now we stay in the month of Ramadan?
    I believe it’s YOUR duty as a citizen of this great nation, which is “no longer a Christian nation” to greet the helly CITIZEN OF THE WORLD and his muslim BROTHERHOOD and of cause the Islamic converts/supporters/sympathizers on this board with their helly month Ramadan.

    Do not you know that Sawm (an Arabic word for fasting) is the third Pillar of islam and takes place in Ramadan.

    Sawm requires abstaining from eating, drinking, smoking and of cause NO sex. The muslims call it self-purification and it is mandated in the helly quran, Surah 2, Ayah 185

    P.S. It’s not clear if it requires abstaining from the beheading of infidels.

    Listen the helly CITIZEN OF THE WORLD (may allah’s piss be upon him)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNakwwXGvbk

    • Dave

      Alondra is off her meds again I see.

      Read the old testiment of the Bible of late? Talk about a hateful document.

      Christians have no history of death and destruction for their religion’s sake at all. the Muslim fairytake is disgusting but the Christian fairytale is A-OK. I see.

      • vicki

        Alondra is off her meds again I see.

        Ad hominem

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          Ad hominem is Liberals’ life-supporting med

          • vicki

            I’ve noticed :)

          • JeffH

            Alondra, you are in exceptional form today…:) Me likes dat!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            JeffH, above are lyrics of the Beatle’s song “Think for Yourself” I just altered and adjusted them a little for Dave
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXGSBgr8sbg

          • JeffH

            Creative thinking!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I second that motion. Here is a song to sing to Obama bin Lade, the 5th column, and to Dave.
            http://www.youtube.com?watch?v=K0qk_q4NLLl
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “The flames kindled on the 4th of July, 1776, have spread over too much of the globe to be extinguished by the feeble engines of despotism; on the contrary, they will consume these engines and all who work them.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            3rd President of the U.S.
            Orthodox Christian

        • Jeff

          Do you ever recognize an ad hominem comment by one of the right wingers? There are plenty of them, but I guess you’re blinded by ideology.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            An Ass is an animal with funny ears
            He kicks up at ANYTHING he hears
            His back is gray and his brain is weak
            He’s just full of stupidity and mulish streak
            And, by the way, the liberals hate an education
            And so they grow up with the Alinsky’s indoctrination
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6ZYq5xh-Ig

          • Dave

            Ad hominem

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Are you plagiarizing Viki again?
            When you’ll start to think for yourself?

            I’ve got a word or two
            To say about the things that you do
            You’re telling all those LIES
            About the TRUE things in life

            I left you far behind
            that you have in mind
            And though you still can’t see
            You’re gonna cause more MISERY

            Although your mind’s opaque
            Try thinking for your own sake
            The future still looks good
            If you fix the things that you should

            Do what you want to do
            And go where you’re going to
            But THINK FOR YOURSELF too
            ‘Cause I won’t be there with you

          • Nadzieja Batki

            So by YOU saying “ad hominem” there should be silence because you command such.

          • WTS/JAY

            Hmm, i like that one. It fits Jeff to a tee!

          • Jeff

            Didn’t your mother tell you to say “excuse me” after you burp?

          • WTS/JAY

            What’s the matter, nazi-boy; can’t find anybody to play with?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Did you watch the Video?

          • WTS/JAY

            Yes i did! Lol!

          • WTS/JAY

            Hey Jeff, do you ever recognize an ad hominem comment by one of the left-wingers? There are plenty of them, but I guess you’re blinded by ideology.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Do NOT “guess”. It’s a FACT.

          • Jeff

            It’s a fact that you are insane and you go along with Jay’s paranoid delusion that a Nazi is anyone who disagrees with him. The more you guys post this right wing nonsense, the more people outside this bubble realize just how nuts you are. Most people realize how nutty it is, and what a dis-service to history it is, to compare anyone to the Nazis. But I guess you’d have to have gone beyond the 6th grade with Jethro to know that.

          • WTS/JAY

            I thought you’d be proud to have me compare you and obama to Nazi’s. What’s the matter, not yet ready to come out of the “Closet”? Oh come on, don’t be so bashful…(-:

          • Jeff

            I really like parrots, Jay. Are you a plain old green one or are you an orange and gold macaw? I’ve got a cage all set for you. I’ll even buy right wing newspapers to line it with.

          • WTS/JAY

            Yes, i know you like parrots, Jeff. In fact, anyone who doesn’t parrot what you believe gets placed in a cage or in an “oven”…ain’t that right, nazi-boy?

          • Jeff

            There are so few left wingers on this blog. All I seem to read are the comments from right wing loons like you.

          • WTS/JAY

            Jeff: There are so few left wingers on this blog. All I seem to read are the comments from right wing loons like you.

            You and your ilk are the only “Reich-Wingers” here, nazi-boy! (-:

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Here is an article that lists the top 10 enemies of freedom. Notice that most of them are 5th columners and, of course, #1 is Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.reason.com/blog/2013/07/11/announcing-the-top-10-reason-reader-pick
            Here is another one about how the allies of Obama bin Laden in Syria are fighting themselves.
            http://www.humanevents.com/2013/07/12/obamas-military-allies-in-syria-get-busy-killing-each-other/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “The new Reich will give its youth to no one, but will itself take youth and give youth its own education and its own upbringing.”
            Adolf Hitler
            May 1, 1937
            The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
            *This sounds like your ilk

          • Jeff

            Faque:

            Reason Magazine has a circulation of about 50,000 – mostly wackos like yourself – assorted Birchers, Birthers, and Cretins. Human Events couldn’t even reach that minimal threshhold and is out of business as a publication, existing only in the Right Wing Blogosphere (like you). On the other hand, The New Yorker has a circulation of over a million and millions more read it in waiting rooms as doctors, etc. are not ashamed to let their patrons know they read it.

          • WTS/JAY

            What’s the matter, Jeff; forgot to take your happy pill today?

          • Bob666

            On Jeff,
            Vicki has a special set of rules that she applies to people who she agrees with.

          • vicki

            You guess wrong. I see them. Dave got a clue. Can you?

      • vicki

        Christians don’t go around cutting off the heads of non-believers.

        • Arkham

          Luckily we have progressed beyond the Spanish Inquisition and burnings at the stake in the last few hundred years. Sadly, the Muslims have not.

          A Saudi princess (wife #6 of a grandson of the king) was just arrested in LA for keeping slaves. She seemed to not understand that there was a problem with slavery. Another issue where Muslims lag behind.

          • Dave

            I know… its been at least 70 years since the NAZIS and god’s “super-warrior” Hitler did their part for Christianity.
            Then you had northern Ireland with Catholics and Protestants fighting it out over who’s god is better.
            Christians are just so peace loving…
            All religion is a sad continuing joke on humanity. Nothing like using “god” to get others to do what you want them to do for either fear of eternal damnation or the ecstasy of heavenly paradise…
            If only you believe the same way.

          • WTS/JAY

            Dave: I know… its been at least 70 years since the NAZIS and god’s “super-warrior” Hitler did their part for Christianity.

            I see history was not your best subject? Btw, Hitler did nothing for Christianity. Hitler was a Catholic.

            Dave: Then you had northern Ireland with Catholics and Protestants fighting it out over who’s god is better. Christians are just so peace loving…
            All religion is a sad continuing joke on humanity. Nothing like using “god” to get others to do what you want them to do for either fear of eternal damnation or the ecstasy of heavenly paradise…

            If only you believe the same way.

            Cain killed Abel with a rock, not a gun or religion…its a heart issue, not a gun or a religion issue. Do you honestly think that by abolishing religion we’ll achieve peace on earth? Stalin, Mao and many other atheist-dictators have tried, only to end up with a considerable body-count for their efforts!

          • Dave

            Jay and Samauri,

            Please do make up your minds… Jay says Hitler was Catholic(Christian) and ole anti-freedom Samauri says he was atheist. I guess ole Samauri never read Hitler’s own book.

          • WTS/JAY

            I said Hitler was Catholic(Pagan)!

          • Karolyn

            Do you tell Catholics to their faces they’re pagan?

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Do you sidle up to them like a snake and tell them they are not pagan but their way of worship and their architecture and visuals are so beautiful?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            WHY Karolyn has to repeat what you already declared?
            WHY are you, Libtards, so laughably STUPID!?

          • Karolyn

            I do not set myself up as the judge of what people are. I do not tell them anything. I was born and raised Catholic, and my family is good and righteous. You, who set yourself up as the arbiters of who is Christian and who is not are those who are most unchristian. I don’t hear the Catholics I know judging and hating and denigrating people like you do.

          • smilee

            You should be directing that at sammie, he really needs to hear that

          • WTS/JAY

            Karolyn: Do you tell Catholics to their faces they’re pagan?

            Yes! Btw, is that a bad thing?

          • Karolyn

            My point being that THEY would take offense and you might end up with a black eye. I know no Catholics who do not BELIEVE they are Christian.

          • WTS/JAY

            A black eye? What kind of crowd do you hang out with, Karolyn?

          • Karolyn

            I think that if someone had called my father a pagan and said that catholics were not Christian, he might get pretty mad. A lot of people would take it as an insult.

          • WTS/JAY

            Karolyn: I think that if someone had called my father a “pagan” and said that catholics were not Christian, he might get pretty mad.

            Your father sounds pretty ignorant.

            Karolyn: A lot of people would take it as an insult.

            I didn’t think it was possible to insult ignorant people…?

          • Karolyn

            You know, Jay, you’re just a creep. Whatever happened to the kinder, gentler Jay? Even before you made that pronouncement some time ago, you weren’t this bad. I don’t care if you insult me, but it’s stooping pretty low to insult someone’s parents.

          • WTS/JAY

            You were the one who disclosed your father’s ignorance. I just agreed with you!

          • Bob666

            Karolyn,

            “Whatever happened to the kinder, gentler Jay”?

            He went south about six months ago. Jay has always been the self described know it all of PLD, but once upon a time, he actually put some effort into his post and could make a sound argument.

            With out doubt, he has become more bigoted and his “facts” tend to be more wacko oriented these days and yes, he has become very creepy.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Karolyn, the difference between conservatives and liberals is that conservatives call a SPADE A SPADE and liberals call a spade a RAKE.

            Is it still surprise you?

          • Arkham

            The religious differences in Northern Ireland were coincidental. The real issue was economic privilege. The Protestants were decedents of the British occupiers and the Catholics were the indigenous Irish. The conflict was between occupiers and occupied.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Lies! Lies! Lies! Hitler was an atheist and not a Christian. He only spoke about Christianity and acted like one in the public eye, but not when he was alone. Sheesh! Get your facts straight before you post. Here is a funny video.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKh9Qr0vmk&feature=youtu.be
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “I calmly say,’Your child belongs to us already. What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.'”
            Adolf Hitler
            November 6, 1933
            The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
            *This sounds like you and your ilk.

          • WTS/JAY

            Arkham: Luckily we have progressed beyond the Spanish Inquisition and burnings at the stake in the last few hundred years. Sadly, the Muslims have not.

            Who’s we?

            Arkham: A Saudi princess (wife #6 of a grandson of the king) was just arrested in LA for keeping slaves. She seemed to not understand that there was a problem with slavery. Another issue where Muslims lag behind.

            Muslims invented slavery. It’s in their genes. Hard habit to break; just ask Barack!

          • Arkham

            We Christians – in the Middle Ages there was a lot of Christian vs Christian sectarian violence, wars fought over subtle points of scripture, superstition driven execution of witches, etc. luckily, as science brought new information it helped conquer ignorance and people came to understand the real message of love, kindness, and forgiveness that Jesus taught.

            it seems that the Muslim world is still mired in the ignorant fundamentalism of the Dark Ages.

          • WTS/JAY

            Arkham: We Christians – in the Middle Ages there was a lot of Christian vs Christian sectarian violence, wars fought over subtle points of scripture, superstition driven execution of witches, etc…

            I’m going to have to disagree with you, Arkham. The West, in the middle-ages, was ruled by a theocracy (church and state) or the RCC. The middle-ages, btw, was hell on earth for Christians, and in particular, for Jews! Incidentally, the RCC is Pagan through and through…it is not, Christian!

          • Nadzieja Batki

            What the bloody hell is this with collective “we”? I don’t know that you are a Christian nor do I know what denominational variety you are, but I can do a guess because by your vagueness not to be held accountable you give clues.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Arkham says: “Sadly, the Muslims have not.”

            According to the Center for the Study of Political Islam: The religion of “peace” fought 548 battles against the world and executed over 19,000 jihad attacks

            Sources: The ancient historic documents; Archeology beneath the Mediterranean; Archeology on land

            Islam is 91% violence, 9% peace.

            Amount of Trilogy Text Devoted to Jihad: Medinan koran – 24%; Sira – 67%; Hadith – 21%; Total Trilogy – 31%

            Arkham, do you know How many people were murdered during 1400 years in the name of the religion of “peace”?

            Christians – 60 Million (including genocide ~ 1.5 Million Turkish Armenians)
            Buddhists – 10 Millions
            Hindus – 80 Millions
            Africans – 120 Million
            Total: 270 Million

            The Doctrine of the religion of “peace” drives violence.
            The historical FACTS show the TRUE nature of Islam.
            Islam was the enemy of ALL civilizations.

            The Intellectual History of the 1400 years never using
            “Muslim” or “Islam” in the documents, but Arab, Turk, Moor, al-Qaeda, Asian

            We do not teach the Islamic history of slavery, or jihad, or destruction of civilizations? Why we are kept ignorant regarding the TRUE Islam?

            The Islamic history at schools in reality is apologetic PROPAGANDA: Islam is religion of “peace” and is never wrong.

        • Edward Sanchez

          No, they give them blankets with small pox, repeatedly break signed treaties and march them thousands of miles until they die.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            And you can cite a source that shows all of these people were Christians, hmmm? I didn’t think so. Here are some articles dealing with the muslim Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.westrenjournalism.com/investigator-radio-host-warned-not-to-talk-obama-background/
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/is-this-the-key-to-the-obama-bc-fraud-case/
            http://www.westernjournalism.com/on-muslim-brotherhood-is-obama-smarter-than-a-fifth-grader/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Everything for the state; nothing outside the state; nothing against the state.”
            Benito Mussolini
            Fascist dictator of Italy

          • WTS/JAY

            The British were not Christian. The British were Catholic-freemasons! Get your facts straight, Bonzo…(-:

          • Bob666

            Yo Spin Master Jay,

            “The British were not Christian. The British were Catholic-freemasons”

            Wow, do you have a turbo-charger on that spin machine?

            Please explain-this is going to be funny………………

            Please…………………….

          • Nadzieja Batki

            Apparently you know little how viruses and bacteria work. There were no “innocent Indians” in the equation. Are you not wearied yet of rewriting history.

          • vicki

            There are many of the devils spawn that call themselves Christians. By their actions you shall know them.

      • WTS/JAY

        Dave: Read the old testiment of the Bible of late? Talk about a hateful document.

        Please explain…

        Dave: Christians have no history of death and destruction for their religion’s sake at all. the Muslim fairytake is disgusting but the Christian fairytale is A-OK. I see.

        Dave, Christianity has no history of death and destruction. However, the RCC does!

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        The personal attack and argument to ridicule. You are also trying to argue with facts not inevidence. You are an indifferent blatant fool, and they are the most dangerous people known to man. Here is soemthing we should do to Obama bin Laden and all 5th columners in our government.
        http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/shooting-straight-on-impeachment/
        Next, Dave, are you really that ignorant? Can anything you list compare to the 270 million people killed by Islam since its founding? Just look up and see what happened to a civilized society, Persia, around 700 AD. The Muslims attacked and killed millions for the glory of their false god Allah. They literally had blood running through the streets. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
        “The duties of men are summarily comprised in the Ten Commandments, consisting of two tables; one comprehending the duties which we owe to God, the other, the duties we owe to our fellow man.”
        Noah Webster
        Founding father
        Devout Christian

        • Bob666

          “Dave, are you really that ignorant”

          Personal attack and argument to ridicule

          Oh Wait, the is a special set of rules for little trolls that quote the bible in their post.

          • JeffH

            Ahhh, 666’s rearing his little hypocritical head again…and parroting while he’s trolling.
            Who’d a thunk?

          • WTS/JAY

            666, is just upset because Zimmerman gets to walk.

          • Bob666

            Oh Poor Jeffery,

            “Ahhh, 666’s rearing his little hypocritical head again…and parroting while he’s trolling”

            all pumped up and no where to troll?

  • Karolyn

    Wow! I’m stunned! This is your worst in a while, Ben. Thank goodness for laughtracks so people know when they’re supposed to laugh.

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      CLASSICAL LIBERAL FEMALE PRODUCT

      “Typical. Judging a book by its cover. Ben, do you always look at people, assume their gay by their looks, and then make fun of them? Why do I even bother asking. That’s a conservative MO, and you have all the standard MOs.” – Karolyn (March 16, 2013)

      “You can tell Ben’s running out of material when he makes a crack about Barbra Streisand?” – Karolyn (March 2, 2013)

      “Weaker and weaker every week. Ben is fading into the sunset……” – Karolyn (February 16, 2013)

      “I really don’t care to listen to Ben because he is so unfunny. It’s a Saturday morning habit. I just come to see what people are saying and to contribute if I am of a mind to do so.” – Karolyn (February 16, 2013)

      “I am sure Ben could care less what I think. Why does it bother so many that they have to come to his rescue? IT’S A GAME.” – Karolyn
      (February 16, 2013)

      “Merry Christmas, Ben. You really do look better without the facial
      hair.” – Karolyn (December 22, 2012)

      “The stache and goatee are not attractive Ben. Not much to say today, huh?”- Karolyn (November 24, 2012)

      “Why are you so defensive Alondra? You sound like an extremely
      angry woman. Chill out!” – Karolyn (November 24, 2012)

      “Lame, lame, lame. It’s getting really old, but it’s like a traffic accident that people slow down to look at – can’t help but check out what kind of garbage Ben has to contribute to the well-being and solidarity of this country.” – Karolyn (November 3, 2012)

      “I guess you people don’thtink Ben can stand up for himself. I got more of a laugh out of your responses than from Ben (which ain’t really sayin’ much, though!).” – Karolyn (November 3, 2012)

      “Alondra – And Ben isn’t vulgar and mean? Do you actually listen to him?” – Karolyn (June 3, 2012)

      “I agree. Ben must be running out of material. The dog story is a couple of weeks old.” – Karolyn (May 26, 2012)

      Karolyn, do NOT worry. It’s very understandable that with your brainal
      menopause you can’t understand the GOOD humor. It happens sometimes in the nature.

      “You Can’t Fix Stupid. Stupid is FOR-EVER” – Ron White
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gxKStPXyn8
      I am totally agree with Ron White.

      “The heart of fools PROCLAIMS FOOLISHNESS.” – King Solomon (Proverbs 12:23)

      “A dupe lays open his folly.” – King Solomon (Proverbs 13:16)

      • Vigilant

        Alondra, you’ve done us all a service. You’ve pointed out the continual dissing of Mr. Crystal by Karolyn. Every Saturday it’s as regular as sh*t.

        Far be it from Karolyn’s psyche to actually dispute points of fact instead of (1) claiming how sensitive she is to people, and then (2) putting people down ad hominem.

        • JeffH

          Me thinks K is a hypocrite!

          • WTS/JAY

            She’s the epitome of hypocrisy!

          • Vigilant

            Me knows it. (:-)

      • JeffH

        Two thumbs up Alondra…I’m still laughing!

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          But 666 griting his teeth.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Boob is nothing, so don’t worry about him. I got your back. He can’t do anything against a group of God-fearing patriots. Here is a new poll that I know both of them will not like.
            http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/07/a-new-poll-that-liberals-are-going-to-hate-and-ignore/
            Here is an article about business being better in red states.
            http://www.politicaloutcast.com/2013/07/gop-run-states-best-for-business-economic-competitiveness/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government ought to be instructed. No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and priviledges of a free people.”
            Noah Webster
            Preface of Webster’s Dictionary
            1828

          • Bob666

            Well Little Lying Geisha Boy,

            “Boob is nothing, so don’t worry about him”

            For a little Troll like you to make a comment like that-you sure do spend a Great amount of time posting to me.

            You’re obviously both a liar and a hypocrite.

            Over grown military establishments are under any form of government inauspicious to liberty, and are to be regarded as particularly hostile to republican liberty.

            George Washington,
            First President of the United States
            Freemason

          • WTS/JAY

            What’s the matter, 666; upset because you won’t get to see Zimmerman hung by his neck?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            What you want from the underground member of KKK (Ku Klux Klan) and fanatically zealous supporter of KKK (the Korrupt Kenyan Kriminal). Nuff said.

          • Bob666

            Oh Spare Rib,

            Propaganda again?
            What does the KKK (Ku Klux Klan) and the ” Korrupt Kenyan Kriminal” have in common? you agree with one and love the other Obama Girl…..

          • WTS/JAY

            Satanic-freemason-Bob: What does the KKK (Ku Klux Klan) and the ” Korrupt Kenyan Kriminal” have in common?

            They are both Democrats?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            RACISTS and KRIMINALS

          • WTS/JAY

            That to!

          • Bob666

            Members of your church?

          • WTS/JAY

            Who, Obama?

          • Bob666

            Again Spin Master Jay,

            I could have cared less if Zimmerman won or lost. Personally I see him as a sad sorts who was fortunate enough to be able to raise $30K/month for his legal defense and that is why he won.

            But we also get to see how successful he will be in the Civil phase.

            Remember O.J.????

          • WTS/JAY

            Hate to ruin your fantasy, yet again, Bob!

            It’s extremely unlikely George Zimmerman will pay a civil fine for killing Trayvon Martin, according to lawyers in Florida and other legal experts. That leaves it up to the U.S. Justice Department to take up the cause of Martin’s supporters, a risky prospect in its own right thanks to the evidentiary problems that plagued state prosecutors. One Florida law professor said he’d be “stunned” if a federal prosecution of Zimmerman goes ahead.

            The reason a successful civil case is unlikely to be successful for the Martin family, according to Lave, is Florida’s “Stand Your Ground law” — the legal construct that was key to the legal decisions at the start of the Martin saga, but didn’t play a central role in the criminal trial that led to Zimmerman’s acquittal. The law is written in such a way that Zimmerman can easily use his criminal acquittal to duck a civil case, according to Lave.

            “Technically, there can still be a civil case,” said Tamara Rice Lave, a professor of criminal law at the University of Miami and a former San Diego public defender. “However, Stand Your Ground is going to preclude that.”

            Read the rest here, dumb dumb: http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/civil-case-against-zimmerman-in-florida-has-little-chance-of

          • Bob666

            Wow Spin Master Jay,

            I could give a dam about Zimmerman& you are getting down right unglued over this.

            Time will tell over the results of a civil case, but buddy, you need to let go-you’re obviously obsessed over this.

            My advice to you again…Take a vacation-you need one.

          • WTS/JAY

            ROFLMAO!!! I’ll bet you didn’t sleep at all last night, hey Bob? Just laying in bed writhing and seething over the fact that Zimmerman walked out a free-man, hey Bob?(-:

          • JeffH

            What civil phase?
            There ain’t gonna be any civil phase against Zimmerman although he may have a solid civil case against NBC/MSNBC and who knows what else.

          • Bob666

            Jeffery,

            Bad phrase on my part.
            It is very likely that Zimmerman will get sued in civil court by the kids family just as the Goldman family went after O.J Simpson (and won).

          • JeffH

            666, there are no grounds for a civil suit by Martin’s family and as much as the ACLU, NAACP and race baiters like Al “I have a black agenda” Sharpton would like to see Zimmerman charged with civil rights violations by the DOJ…Holder will have to make up a lie to prosecute Zimmerman on civil rights and hate crime charges, because the DOJ investigation, done by the FBI, a division of the DOJ, has already concluded and already found that there was no evidence of any civil rights violations, any hate crimes, or any racism on the part of George Zimmerman.

            FBI report: No evidence George Zimmerman is racist

            An FBI investigation into the shooting of black teenager Travyon Martin concluded that there’s no evidence the suspect, George Zimmerman, was motived by racial bias or hatred.

            After interviewing 30 people familiar with George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch captain charged with killing Trayvon Martin, FBI agents found no evidence that the shooting was driven by racial bias or animus.

            The report outlines how FBI agents asked each person interviewed whether Zimmerman “displayed any bias, prejudice or irrational attitude against any class of citizen, religious, racial, gender or ethnic groups.” No one said he had.
            http://patdollard.com/2013/07/flashback-fbi-concludes-investigation-finds-no-evidence-of-racism-hate-crime-civil-rights-violation-by-zimmerman/

          • Brevity is the soul of wit

            Jeffrey,
            Much of what you provided is sound, but it also pertains more to the DOJ going after Zimmerman. Civil law suits are brought every day on much less facts & credability.

            I am not saying the Martin family would winn-but the burden of proof in a civil case is far less and Zimmerman’s home owners insurance would write a check just to make the family go away.

            Just remember OJ.

          • JeffH

            I seriously doubt that a civil suit will be filed against Zimmerman…but then stranger things have happened.

            The OJ case is an entirely different animal and nowhere comparable to the Zimmerman/Martin case…the LA PD & lab screwed that one up.

          • Bob666

            Jeffrey,

            Time will tell if you are correct. But here is the way I am looking at it and keep in mind, this is based on tort.

            There was a death.

            There is no doubt as to how it happened (forget self defense-shot fired and death resulted)

            There is no doubt as to who fired the shot.

            Again, time will tell, but I will be surprised if there is not a civil suit and I would bet that Zimmerman’s legal council will advise him to settle.

            Time will tell.

          • smilee

            There is no difference in civil court, the criminal one was different but in civil court the burden of proof is far different and will take into account every thing not just self defense. GZ actions leading up to the confrontation could be considered and weather he contributed to causing the confrontation and if they think he did he could be found to have caused a wrongful death this will not be about self defense and the requirement for finding wrongful death is far less that reasonable doubt.

          • JeffH

            Always :)

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Here is an article about Senator Ted Cruz introducing legislation that will anger Obama bin Laden and the 5th column.
            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/ted-cruz-introduces-legislation-to-completely-defund-obamacare/
            Here is another article saying that Obama bin Laden Care violates the Commerce Clause of the Constitution and is going back to the SCOTUS.
            http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/court-bats-obamacare-back-to-supremes/
            Let’s hope they overturn it this time. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “If we and our posterity neglect religious instruction and authority; violate the rules of eternal justice, trifle with the injuctions of morality, and recklessly destroy the political constitution which holds us together, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity.”
            Noah Webster
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • smilee

            What a joke it has no more chance than you have becoming president

          • Bob666

            Actually Smilee,
            Little Geisha boy would tell you that becoming president is God’s will and plan. Then he would go on to explain that only people who think exactly like the Mystical Korean Samurai have any constitutional rights.

            When it comes to humor-Samurai is the gift that keeps on giving.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Wanna bet? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고나라를위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you and your boyfriend Bob out.

          • Bob666

            OK Pigs Feet,
            “But 666 griting his teeth”.
            Why would I be “griting” my teeth?

          • WTS/JAY

            666: Why would I be “griting” my teeth?

            Not enough fibre in your diet?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            It’s Bush’s FAULT.

          • Bob666

            I eat lots of fruit Jay-But I do love pork Bar-B-Q!

          • WTS/JAY

            Satanic-freemason-bob: I eat lots of fruit Jay

            Always thought you were a little fruity, Bob. Had any Geisha-boys lately?

          • Bob666

            Good Try Spin Master Jay,
            Little Sammy is the one who hears muffled men’s voices from his underwear. I don’t do Men jay, but it sounds like you would like to watch if I were oriented like little Sammy.

            So you like to watch Jay?? thanks for letting us know just how demented you are..

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            It’s a Veeeeeery GOOD question Yo Moron “of the 13 generation out of 14”.

            But it’s you, who must to answer it to yourself, not to me.
            I could care less about it.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBLssEOTEr8

          • Bob666

            well Pokenstein,
            Whats the answer? you made the statement……

            BTW-you never have told us what third-world sand trap you came from.

            Bet I know the answer!

      • Karolyn

        And you laid open yours, Alondra, by taking so much time to respond in this fashion. :-) Unbelievable!

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          Karolyn says: “taking so much time to respond in this fashion.”

          Karolyn, I did not “taking so much time to respond”
          Karolyn, it is you, WHO are Constantly talking Bull Poop.
          I just pulled out YOUR “words”.

          Karolyn, and in WHAT “fashion” am I talking?
          The “fashion” of EXPOSING your Liberal Hypocrisy?

          Your chronic complaining will not drive away people’s attention from your HYPOCRISY.

          You caught, Miss Karolyn. Thus admit that you are
          the Liberal HYPOCRITE.
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hklsiU8YZhY

          • Karolyn

            Am I so important that you would do a search on all my posts for the last however many weeks? Gee, thanks!
            :-)

          • Bob666

            Yo Karolyn,
            Pork-Fest obviously has a thing for you-I hope it’s not sexual……..

          • WTS/JAY

            You mean like the “thing” you have for Samurai?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Karolyn, here NO one talks about your “importance”.
            You are far over estimating yourself.

            We are talking about Liberal Hypocrisy and exceptional STUPIDITY by exposing YOU by YOUR own words.

            You say: “…you would do a search on all my posts”.
            Karolyn, it’s my hobby to collect the Leftists’ “STUPIDITY” and “HYPOCRISY”
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hklsiU8YZhY

      • WTS/JAY

        BUSTED!!!

    • WTS/JAY

      You’re stunned alright! Did you just figure that out…duh!

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Jay asks: “Did you just figure that out?”
        Nope, and she NEVER will !!!

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Here is an article about one persons opinion on what the Governor of Florida should do if there are riots in the streets. I’d call in the National Guard and bust up some lines.
      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/heres-what-i-would-say-as-governor-of-florida-concerning-threats-of-riot-murder-over-zimmerman-verdict/
      Here is another article showing how the Zimmerman trial is full of black racism.
      http://www.theblacksphere.com/2013/07/zimmerman-case-exposes-black-racism/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “The laws of nature are the laws of God, whose authority can be superseded by no power of earth.”
      George Mason
      “Father of the Bill of Rights”
      Founding father
      Devout Christian

  • Karolyn

    And your proof that either of Martin’s parents were on welfare is…?

    • WTS/JAY

      And your proof that Zimmerman is a racist is…?

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        You are soooooo funny, Jay.
        WHEN Liberals did prove any of their LIES?

  • WTS/JAY

    One of your BEST, Mr. Crystal!!!

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Here is an article that tells some good news.
      http://www.lastresistance.com/2663/polls-indicate-that-pro-abortion-people-are-killing-themselves-off/
      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise. In this sense and to this extent, our civilizations and our institutions are emphatically Christian.”
      Illinois Supreme Court
      Richmond vs. Moore, 1885

  • WTS/JAY

    Are Obama and numerous co-conspirators planning to arrest, murder or imprison his political opponents to “CHANGE” the country into a one party state?

    Anyone who is secretly violating our Constitution is extremely dangerous!

    There were only two scenarios to explain why both the Senate and the House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed the National Defense Authorization Act (thereby inserting the U.S. Army into domestic law enforcement), and why the Department of “Homeland Security” (DHS) has purchased over 7,000 fully automatic assault weapons, over 1.6 billion hollow point bullets, over 2,700 armored military vehicles, numerous drones, arming even the staff of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), and building concentration camps:

    FIRST SCENARIO: The DHS and U.S. Army are preparing for a land invasion by a foreign enemy and arming all of its federal offices, including the IRS, to help the DHS and U.S. military fight off the attack.

    SECOND SCENARIO: The DHS and U.S. Army are preparing to attack American Patriots and again need the assistance of the IRS.

    Now, add the fact that Obama, the members of “Congress” and “justices” of the“U.S. Supreme Court” have known since the first day that Obama campaigned to be the President that he was ineligible (regardless of where he was born), but did not inform the voters, not in 2008 nor in 2012, (revealing that they in fact do not support nor defend our Constitution and instead usurped the sovereignty of the American People), the SECOND SCENARIO is now in fact the case…

    http://ofthehighest.wordpress.com/2013/07/07/are-obama-and-his-co-conspirators-planning-to-arrest-murder-and-imprison-their-political-opponents-to-change-the-country-into-a-one-party-state/

  • WTS/JAY

    Before You Nergoes Go Out And Riot…Remember This…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N__hJL4qjKo&feature=player_embedded

  • WTS/JAY

    Obama’s Signs Executive Action: If A Child ‘Confesses’ To A Pediatrician That Mommy & Daddy Have A Gun In The House, Feds Can Disarm Parents…

    For the Nazis it was initially a perfect way to deal with the Jews and other groups that they considered sub human. If you were Jewish you had to be mentally defective and therefore you could be put in a hospital and experimented on. It was the beginning of the holocaust.

    In the Soviet Union anyone who was not a devout supporter of Communism was held in an institution and then often sent on to the Gulag where they could be worked and starved to death.

    We have certainly not reached that point in the United States, but we have reached the point where the basic premise is the same. The VA is using declarations of mental illness to disarm veterans and there have been reports of states like California doing the same. If it happening to veterans now how long will it be before it starts happening to other American citizens?

    Consider this; soon those stalwarts of integrity who run the IRS will have access to the medical records of every American. They will be able to review them to see if you have ever told a doctor that you were depressed, ever suffered from PTSD after the loss of a loved one or from being in an accident, or even suffered from some minor memory loss. Based on the criteria being used by the VA the IRS could declare you mentally defective and put you on the list of people that can’t legally purchase or own firearms.

    You also have to consider the fact that one of the 23 so called executive actions on gun control Obama recently signed called for doctors to ask their patients if they owned a firearm. This is not just directed at psychiatrists, but at all physicians including pediatricians. In other words, if your child confesses that Mommy and Daddy have a gun in the house that could conceivably be considered the actions of mentally defective individuals and you could be disarmed. Once we are disarmed we cease to be citizens and become subjects…

    http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/psychiatry-as-a-weapon-of-tyranny-by-michael-connelly-constitutional-attorney

  • WTS/JAY

    Judge In Zimmerman Case Pressured by Obama Administration?

    Bizarre outburst against Zimmerman suggests prejudice…

    Speculation is raging that the judge in the George Zimmerman case could have been put under pressure by the Obama administration after she staged a bizarre outburst during which she interrogated Zimmerman while repeatedly silencing his lawyers.

    The hostile exchange began when Judge Debra Nelson asked Zimmerman if he planned to testify.

    Essentially, Judge Nelson told Zimmerman he had the “absolute right to remain silent” but then proceeded to demand he answer her questions interrogation-style while silencing his lawyers.

    Defense attorney Don West twice objected to Nelson’s interrogation, prompting the judge to raised her voice and exclaim, “Your objection is overruled!” in a manner more befitting of an angry parent lecturing a child than a legal professional.

    Both of Zimmerman’s lawyers appeared shocked as attorney Mark O’Mara asked under his breath, “what is going on?”

    Several legal experts and observers said the outburst was unprecedented…

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/judge-in-zimmerman-case-pressured-by-obama-administration.html

  • WTS/JAY

    VERDICT REACHED: GEORGE ZIMMERMAN FOUND NOT GUILTY!!!

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      TRUTH and JUSTICE DEFEATED EVIL.
      Praise the LORD.

      • WTS/JAY

        Amen and Amen!!!

      • WTS/JAY

        The left-wing loonies are going to be belly-aching about this for some time to come…LOL!!!

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          I am listening phone calls, they are going craze.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Just the bigotted ones. Ooops! That is all of them. Cowards and traitors all. Here is an article and video showing MSNBC showing pictures of a dead Trayvon on television.
          http://www.mediaite.com/tv/msnbc-accidentally-airs-image-of-trayvon-martins-dead-body-anchor-apologizes-for-awful-mistake/
          I guess they must want riots in the streets. They say it was a mistake, but we know better. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
          “No free government now exists in the world, unless where Christianity is acknowledged, and is the religion of the country.”
          Pennsylvania Supreme Court
          Updegraph vs. Commonwealth, 1824

        • Nadzieja Batki

          How else would the supposed “Victims” become the Bullies.

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      He sure was.
      http://www.mediaite.com/tv/breaking-george-zimmerman-notguilty-of-murder/
      You are right Alondra. Just another case of satan being defeated again. I just hope some fools don’t go running around trying to kill people, like the blatantly ignorant Rodney King riots. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
      “Perhaps the greatest triumph of modern conservatism has been to stop allowing the Left to put the average American on the moral defensive. By ‘average American’ I mean the good,decent, rambunctious, and creative people who raise their families, GO TO CHURCH, and help out with the local library. We have great work ahead of us. Once I said,’This is a wonderful time to be alive.’ And I meant that. I meant that we are lucky not to live in pale and timid times. We’ve been BLESSED with the opportunity to stand for something. We have good reason to be hopeful and optimistic. We’ve made much progress already. So, let us go forth with good cheer and stout hearts – happy warriors out to seize back a country and a world to freedom.”
      Ronald Reagan
      40th President of the U.S.

      • Edward Sanchez

        The 1st Amendment to the Constitution…

        “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;…”

        Perhaps you should read the document you claim to support.

        To quote Samuel Johnson, ” Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel”

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          This is my exercising my God given right to freely speak, exercising my religion, and there is no government run religion here, so why are you sounding like a complete and utter troll. The quote you gave covers you quite well. As you are using the Constitution to attack someone, instead of defending their God-given rights. You, son, are the scoundrel. You are the one that Samuel Johnson was talking about. In fact, here is an article talking about if the Bill of Rights (All God given) were to be taken from us.
          http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/the-bill-of-rights-what-if-it-were-repealed/
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out. Also, there is no separation of church and state.
          “If a republican form of government fails to secure public prosperity and happiness, it must be because the citizens neglect the Divine commands, and elect bad men to make and administer the laws.”
          Noah Webster
          The History of the United States

          • smilee

            If freedom of speech is a God Given right then how do you explain how in every country were there is no freedom of speech that right does not exist. Freedom of speech is a man given right. God does not interfere he allows us to mess things up as we see fit albeit he may have the last word in the end, he allows man to make its own laws.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Care to cite something on this? Ooops! Can’t do it. Remember sleepee, all Western society’s laws are based on the 10 Commandments. You last 2 sentences are such crap that I can’t help but laugh at your ignorance. Here is something that you and your ilk are doing with the military.
            http://www.lastresistance.com/2666/threat-to-religious-liberty-in-the-military/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “There are no atheists in fox holes.”
            Samurai

          • smilee

            You did not answer the question I asked and I gave you more credit for brains than this, Do you have any? freedom is self evident in the countries that have it and self evident in countries that do not, I never said anything about western society’s . Why not cite your proof of it being based on the 10 commandments. Despite what you say ours is not.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Wanna bet? Just look up what our founding fathers said about them and our laws. No secularism here, boy. Anyone can tell you our Bill of Rights are God given, Remeber our Declaration of Independence saying our rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit if happiness are “…endowed (blessed) by their Creator (God)…”? It seems you haven’t read that document. Tisk, tisk, tisk. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            BTW, a good reading about John Quincy Adams would do your little lib mind some good.

          • smilee

            Your totally wrong, what they said is not always what they wrote in law, many times words that you often quote were selling points to get it ratified. The Constitution was highly controversial at the time and a major compromise on many items so it was a tricky sell. The Bill of rights gives free speech to all not just Christians and separates government form religion and gives equal rights to all religions not just Christianity and that includes Muslims whom you have a terrible hate for which is not a christian precept either. The DOI was for all men not just Christians, the founding fathers in their words said that and never said it applied only to Christians which you repeal and erroneous say.I read it for what is says and do not inject my personal beliefs you do just the opposite you read and then twist to fit your personal beliefs, that is not freedom as our Constitution in its words make that clear and that includes everyone not just Christians, it was designed for all but not always practiced as such and has because of that it has had many bumps in the road the largest being the civil war but it always has survived in tact so well was it written, so do not twist the words of such a great document. YOU AGAIN IGNORED ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS, CAT GOT YOUR TONGUE!!! i have a lot of admiration for John Adams and agree with much of what he did but your no John Adams!!!!

          • Bob666

            Good luck Smilee,
            Little Sammy is the gift of humor that keeps on giving!

            Oh, and Little Sammy has been known to tell a Wammy here and there, but he is not man enough to admit it.

        • Vigilant

          Perhaps you should read the second part of that sentence (or prohibiting the free exercise thereof) instead of ignoring it.

          To quote Vigilant: “Lying is the FIRST refuge of a progressive.”

        • Nadzieja Batki

          You may be a scoundrel that hides behind the Constitution wanting it to say what it doesn’t. Congress has not established a National Religion such as RCC tends to do as in most of South America, south of the border, Europe, Africa. The only competition for RCC is Islam but not for long since these two are compatible. The only hindrances are the JEWS and CHRISTIANS the most hated of Islam and RCC.

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      Racist sharpton’s reaction on the Zimmerman verdict:

      “The acquittal of George Zimmerman is a slap in the face to the
      American people but it is only the first round in the pursuit of justice. We
      intend to ask the Department of Justice to move forward as they did in the Rodney King case and we will closely monitor the civil case against Mr. Zimmerman. I WILL CONVENE AN EMERGENCY CALL WITH PREACHERS TONIGHT TO DISCUSS NEXT STEPS AND I INTEND TO HEAD TO Florida in the next few days.”

      What a disgusting SCUMBAG!

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      Look at this – it’s totally SHAMEFULLY DESPICABLE:

      A statement from the Justice Department: “The department continues to evaluate the evidence generated during the federal investigation, as well as the evidence and testimony from the state trial.” — A spokesman for the U.S. Department of Justice.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Pray for Zimmerman because his “troubles” have just begun. Where to live? harassed by the media? Job/money?

      • Jeff

        I wouldn’t worry about him. He’ll become a talking blimp on Fox.

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      OJ Simpson’s Nevada criminal case goes to a parole board later this month for part of his 2008 conviction in the kidnapping and armed robbery of two sports collectible dealers.

      But there’s NO CHANCE the former National Football League Hall of Famer and Hollywood star will go free — even if parole is granted.
      http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/07/10/oj-simpson-parole-hearing/2507087/?morestories=obinsite

      How do you think Jay, will the Kenyan Kriminal, Macaque sharpton and their racistic breed organize the riots?

  • JimH

    Not Guilty.
    I guess the people who oppose concealed carry are disappointed.
    They can’t play on the emotions of people by portraying concealed carry people as bigots out to find a reason to just go out and kill innocent children.
    They even tried to invent a new race(white Hispanic) to move their agenda.
    Didn’t work.

  • Karolyn

    Here is what those of BOTH sides of the aisle do. They just love to stir the pot.
    This is on a liberal site; however, I’m sure you won’t find mention of the false reporting of rioting on a conservative site.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/14/riot.html

    • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

      No identity crisis. It’s Good. Keep talking.

      P.S. Do not miss the next Ben’s Great Eight.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Karolyn has an supposed identity crisis for this site’s deceit. Pretending that she is smarter and wiser than anyone, she announces that she is superior in not taking sides and is like flotsam and jetsam going where the wind blows. This way no side can hold her accountable for her stance, being a betrayer of all.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Now which side of the fence are you standing at? Or is it that you go where the wind blows.

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Miss Karolyn is TOO heavy. The wind can’t move her.

        • Karolyn

          Now that’s aa really dumb remark. Why do you bother, Alondra?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            The same I ask you: Why do you bother, Karolyn?

          • Jeff

            Aloonie, maybe you should stick to misstating famous quotes. You’re quite good at that. Like when FDR said, “You really shouldn’t fear the future” or when JFK said, “Don’t even ask.”

      • Karolyn

        I listen to all sides of an issue and might find merit in anything that might be said. I am not a sheep and do not ascribe to any one ideology. Something wrong with that?

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Actually you do subscribe to one ideology and it is that of Dems/Progs/Leftists.

          • Karolyn

            First you intimate that I go whichever way the wind blows, and now you say I subscribe to the ideology of “Dems/Progs/Leftists.” In plain English, you’re wrong either way. I don’t fit into your mold.

          • Dave

            Karolyn,
            The conservatives love to lie about anyone who dares disagree with their narrow-minded ideology. They are quite sad as a group.
            Its just how they are… they do not know any better.

          • WTS/JAY

            Dave,
            The progressive-liberals love to lie about anyone who dares disagree with their narrow-minded ideology. They are quite sad as a group.
            Its just how they are… they do not know any better.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            You are soooooo funny, Alinsky’s puppet.

            Meanwhile, please name at least ONE conservatives’
            lie.

        • Vigilant

          Subscribing, no.

          Ascribing, yes.

  • Bill Henry

    George Zimmerman was doing his job at protecting his neighborhood which had numerous unlawful entries and acts done on it by exactly the type person that Trayvon Martin was representing himself to be. Zimmerman did the right thing by calling 911 and reporting it, and when he was told that they did not need him to follow the guy, he said “okay”. At that point I believe he said he couldn’t see Martin any more. He stated in testimony to the police that he was on his way back to his truck when he was confronted by Martin who said to him “why are you following me” and then sucker punched him in the face knocking him to the concrete and beating his head against the concrete, then he saw the gun and was reaching for it saying you are going to die tonight MF. Zimmerman beat him to the gun and shot him. The being the story if it were true. Irregardless if it were true, Martin had committed enough harm to Zimmerman at that point to have met the use of self defense. No one mentioned the conversation which I heard on recording of the call between Martin and his girlfriend where she told him to just run on home and his saying to effect that he wasn’t running he would take care of this guy. I heard nothing of this in the prosecution or defense given on tv. I think the roles were reversed and Zimmerman became the victim and Martin became the stalker. If that hadn’t happened then Martin wouldn’t have been killed. He was going to show his manhood and paid for it like a man would have. The thought that Zimmerman was tracking him down just to kill him is a figment of someone’s imagination. I can guarantee you that I was a man when I was seventeen, who had five years work experience as a man to prove it. Calling Martin a child was offensive to me as I am convinced it would have been to him. I live in a concealed carry state and a stand your ground state and Martin would have gotten the same thing from me. I would have regretted it, because killing a man lives with you the rest of your life. I know I have been there and done that.

  • WTS/JAY

    FREEMASONRY: FATAL IN THE FIRST DEGREE…

    An important question is: “How dangerous really IS Masonry in the lower degrees?”

    Former Master Mason Bill Schnoebelen teaches how even the first degree of Freemasonry is spiritually deadly because of it’s satanic roots. Bill teaches how someone completing even the first degree of Masonry is susceptible to demonic infestation and affliction, and to make matters worse, how demonic activity is brought home to family making every cherished relationship vulnerable to severe and continuous spiritual attack after initiation. Bill guides you through vital steps necessary for deliverance and how the Holy Spirit can set you or your loved ones free from the deadly spiritual bondage of Freemasonry – also teaching how to pray against generational curses of Masonry from your family passed down by unwitting parents, grandparents, and relatives. During the last 25 years we have been asked many times, “How dangerous is Masonry, really? My husband never made it past first degree. How bad could it be?”

    Bill’s new teaching gives powerful and irrefutable answers to this question! In this well-documented, lavishly illustrated DVD, Bill (who was deeply involved in Freemasonry: York Rite, Scottish Rite and the Shrine for 9 years) shows how even the First Degree of Entered Apprentice brings a man and his family right into the dark heart of the temple of Baal worship! If you have family or friends in the Lodge or even thinking of becoming a members, it’s is vital that you see this first! This is an IMPORTANT teaching!

    http://www.withoneaccord.org/Freemasonry-Fatal-in-the-First-Degree_p_201.html

    • Bob666

      Wow Spin Master Jay,

      “He earned a Masters in Theological Studies degree in 1980 and a Master of Arts degree in counseling in 1990. Following the Holy Spirit’s lead, he acquired degrees in Naturopathic medicine and Nutritional Herbology becoming a Certified Natural Health Professional in 2004. Listed in Who’s Who in Religion, William’s newest book, Romancing Death, sheds light on the current pop culture vampire phenomenon (TWILIGHT, etc.), and is scheduled for release in March, 2012′.

      This gets better and funnier,

      “Rev. William “Bill” Schnoebelen’s autobiography, Lucifer Dethroned, is a gripping account of his descent into the darkest side of mysticism and magick and subsequent restoration through grace and the love of Yah’shua. His testimonies are thorough historical surveys of contemporary satanism. His second book, Blood on the Doorposts, is the prayerful result of thousands of hours spent counseling people to freedom from oppressive religious systems or dysfunctional relationship”.

      As we arrive to the punch line:

      “Space Invaders is the fruit of thirty years of research into the UFO enigma and contains astonishing Biblical answers to some of the most perplexing aspects of flying saucers and the alien abduction phenomena sweeping the country. It places saucers and aliens under the light of YHWH’s Holy Word with amazing results. This information prepares readers for some of the coming end-times deceptions”.

      And my persnoal favorite of Rev. William “Bill” Schnoebelen’s base of “knowledge”:

      Soul winning

      Health, addictions and healing – both spiritual and physical

      Apologetics for the Bible and Bible study

      Spiritual warfare and Liberation

      The UFO phenomenon

      Examinations of various religious groups – including (but not limited to) Mormons, Freemasons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Witches.

      I would have to say that you really are scraping the bottom of the barrel Spin Master Jay-but hey-we all know that if it is on the internet-it must be true!

      Always good for a Laugh!

      • WTS/JAY

        666: but hey-we all know that if it is on the internet-it must be true!

        You’re on the internet, aren’t you, Bob?

        • Bob666

          And so are you Spin Master Jay!

          • WTS/JAY

            Still upset that Zimmerman got off, hey Bob? You didn’t get to “assuage” your liberal white-guilt, huh?

  • WTS/JAY

    Sunday, July 14, 2013

    “KILL ZIMMERMAN” FACEBOOK PAGE “DOES NOT VIOLATE COMMUNITY STANDARDS”!

    I have seen so many counter-jihad pages taken down. Many of my links are not postable on facebook because they might offend Muslims — mere news reports about FGM, honor violence and murder, Islamic Jew-hatred, etc. But this can stand. Thanks to John for sending this in…

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/07/kill-zimmerman-facebook-page-does-not-violate-community-standards.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

    • Bob666

      Well Spin Master Jay.
      That pesky First Amendment.

      • WTS/JAY

        Pesky? Not at all, Bob! The wonderful thing about the First-Amendment, Bob, is that it always reveals the “true-colours” of the one(s) exercising it!

        • Dave

          It certainly does Jay… It certainly does.

          • WTS/JAY

            It certainly does Dave…It certainly does.

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        Yep. The God-given right of freedom of speech is one of them. Of course, if you are a person that is immoral, not virtuous, nor Christian, our Constitution is inadequate for you, say John Adams. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
        “It is not the speed at which something is learned, but that it is learned at all that counts.”
        Samurai

        • Bob666

          Well Geisha Boy,

          “”It is not the speed at which something is learned, but that it is learned at all that counts”.

          Well, we knew that you were slow-but thanks for confirming.

          Oh Yes, the first amendment is a wonderful set of rights!

          Did the Pilgrims on the Mayflower sit around
          Plymouth Rock waiting for a return trip? They came here to settle. And that’s what we should be doing on Mars. When you go to Mars, you need to have made the decision that you’re there permanently. The more people we have there, the more it can become a sustaining environment. Except for very rare exceptions, the people who go to Mars shouldn’t be coming back. Once you get on the surface,
          you’re there.

          BUZZ ALDRIN,

          Astronaut,

          Freemason

          Vanity Fair, Jul. 2010

          Oh Wait, one of the “facts” that Sammy posted claimed that NASA did not go to the moon-

          More Samurai lies.

  • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

    Satanic guild is in their hateframe.
    We know them by names.

    • Bob666

      Yes, by the name Alonda!

      • http://batman-news.com samurai

        This coming from a person that uses 666 in his handle? From a person that uses the number of the Antichrist? Ha, ha, ha, ha! You make me laugh at you hypocrisy. Here are some site you can look up for your reading pleasure.
        http://www.adventofdeception.com/history-illuminati-freemasonry-weishupt-albert-pike/
        http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_illuminati_20.htm
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
        You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
        “A true Christian is a true citizen.”
        Theodore Roosevelt

        • Bob666

          Oh Babble Boy,

          You sure do reply a lot to a guy who does not bother you.

          So you lie about the as well?

          You are a sad excuse for a man and a Christian.

          The fool who has not sense to discriminate between what is good and what is bad is well nigh as dangerous as the man who does discriminate and yet chooses the bad.

          Theodore Roosevelt

          Little Sammy does not know the difference?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Since you think you know Thomas Jefferson, here is something showing you do not really know him.
            http://www.wnd.com/2002/06/14285/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “A man can make a throne from bayonets, but he can never sit upon it.”
            Francis Bacon

          • WTS/JAY

            Bob is still upset that Zimmerman walked free…You’ll have to give old Bob a little more time to stew. Maybe another few weeks should do it. Until then, no one will escape his wrath; Aaaaaaaarrrgggggrrrrrrrr!!!!!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • Bob666

            “Bob is still upset that Zimmerman walked free”

            Well Jay, if you keep saying that, moron’s like Samurai will start to believe it-he believes everything on the internet is correct.

            Sorry to disappoint you Jay-on Zimmerman, I really could give a rat’s A$$ and really never have.

    • WTS/JAY

      TITLE: MASONRY PROVEN CONCLUSIVELY TO BE WORSHIP OF LUCIFER, SATAN! Part 1 of 2…

      http://www.cuttingedge.org/free11.html

      • Bob666

        Oh poor Spin Master Jay,

        Now you are recycling Geisha Boy’s crap?

        “For the novice as well as the sophisticate, this DVD is full of surprises. It includes subtle discoveries lying just beneath the text — hidden messages, encryptions, deliberate misspellings and other amendments to the text — that present implications beyond the immediate context, demonstrating a skillful design that has its origin from outside our space and time.
        Drawing upon over forty years of collecting, Chuck highlights in this study many of the precious nuggets that have become characteristic of his popular Bible studies around the world. It is guaranteed to stimulate, prove, and, hopefully, disturb. It will confound the skeptic and encourage the believer. It is a “must” for every thinking seeker of truth and serious inquirer of reality”.

        Better Known as the “national enquirer” of wacko christian web sites-but a great insight into your personal mentality.

        • WTS/JAY

          Unlike you, Bob, the man does his research and provides “sources”! You, on the other hand, provide…?(-:

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Here Boob claims to be a Christian, but then he turns around and says that Christian site are wackos. Does this sound like a Christian to you, or maybe he is doing like Obama bin Laden. Claiming to be a Christian, but in reality, he is something else? Here is something showing that Obama bin Laden may bring federal charges against Zimmerman.
            http://www.reagancoalition.com/articles/2013/20130713002-gz-ng.html
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “Had the doctrines of Jesus been preached always as pure as they came from his lips, the whole civilized world would now have been Christian.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            Letter to Benjamin Waterhouse
            *Who says Jefferson wasn’t a Christian?

          • Bob666

            Hi Geisha Boy,

            Yes, I go to church and respect ALL religions-that is what Christians do. I don’t have a problem with Christian sites, just the ones that you come up with that are Wacko.

            Let’s define Wacko Sites little false witness Geisha Boy,

            Let’s start with space aliens, this site has both Aliens and Vampires and came up with it-do you believe in them Sammy-you like to post web sites that do.

            Let’s discuss Page 183, you do remember that little lie that you posted No Nad’s Geisha Boy? I would say that came from a wacko web site because it is a lie and you are very good at posting them.

            So spin that all you want-But Christian you are not. You talk the talk, you just swish the walk!

            You are both a sad excuse for a man and a Christian.

            “He who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and third time, till at length it becomes habitual; he tells lies without attending to it, and truths without the world’s believing him. This falsehood of the tongue leads to that of the heart, and it time depraves all its good dispositions.” (1785)

            Thomas Jefferson,
            In a letter to John Adams in 1819

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No response possible due to lack of intellectual content. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. I suggest you remember what you posted from Thomas Jefferson, as it has just described yourself to a “T”.

          • Bob666

            Yo Geisha Boy,

            No response due to the fact that you have your little Geisha panties around you’re ankles and you lack the nads to act like a real man!

            Got caught in a lie Sammy-A real man would admit it-Cowards like you would post “No response possible due to lack of intellectual content”.

            A very sad excuse for both a man and a Christian!

            “I hold the maxim no less applicable to public than to private affairs, that honesty is the best policy”

            George Washington

            US President

            Freemason

          • Jeff

            Jesus forgives him for all his lies. You’ll just have to take his word for it as he’s Jesus’ spokesman on Earth.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Show me anywhere in the Bible where it says we are to respect other faiths. It isn’t there. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “A patriot must be a religious man.”
            Thomas Jefferson
            3rd President of the U.S.
            Signer of the Declaration of Independence
            Orthodox Christian

          • Bob666

            Yo Ignoramus,
            “Show me anywhere in the Bible where it says we are to respect other faiths”.

            I rest my case-Thank-You!

            The man who doesn’t read good books has no advantage over the man who can’t read them. — Mark Twain, American writer and Freemason

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Yo Bob, why didn’t you show me where it says this? Could it be that it doesn’t? Respect a person? Yes. Respect false beliefs and false faiths? No. Neeeeed to study the Bible a little more. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “We gave you a republic, if you can keep it.”
            Benjamin Franklin
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Bob666

            Yo Sammy,

            You talk the talk-you just can’t walk the walk-it is obviously far over your head.

            “Masonic labor is purely a labor of love. He who seeks to draw Masonic wages in gold and silver will be disappointed. The wages of a Mason are earned and paid in their dealings with one another; sympathy that begets sympathy, kindness begets kindness,
            helpfulness begets helpfulness, and these are the wages of a Mason.”

            Benjamin Franklin
            About as “Devout” a christian as Bob666

          • WTS/JAY

            Bob is a Satanic freemason! Obama bin Laden can try and bring federal-charges against Zimmerman, but he’ll just end up looking like a fool and all his efforts will be for naught!

          • Bob666

            Funny,

            Spin Master: Bob is a Satanic freemason! Obama bin Laden can try and bring federal-charges against Zimmerman, but he’ll just end up looking like a fool and all his efforts will be for naught!

            Typical Spin-Master comments.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Nice duck and cover, but when are you going to answer him on an intelligent level? Ooops! I keep forgetting that you are a fraud and do not pocess any functioning thinking capacity. Here is an article that explains what the NBP want out of this.
            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/full-scale-jihad-is-the-goal-behind-rioting-over-zimmerman-verdict/
            Here is an article that shows how the Masons are keeping men of color out of their ranks in Georgia. I guess your group is racist?
            http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread773421/pg1
            There are more pages, you just have to click the page number above the article. Here is another article showing the connection between the Freemasons and the KKK.
            http://www.truthhertz.podbean.com/2007/07/09/kkk-exposed-the-craft-and-the-klan/
            Looks like you have been spanked once again Bob. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.”
            Patrick Henry
            March 23, 1775

          • Jeff

            Now you’re parroting Faque Samurai. You’re regressing. You used to parrot the posts of people capable of thinking. Faque Samurai is just a heroin addict who switched addictions.

          • WTS/JAY

            Speaking of addiction; still parroting the Faque-president, Jeff?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            As Curly of the 3 Stooges used to say, “OH, a wise guy!” FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고나라를위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked to the birthday of the Savior.”
            John Quincy Adams
            6th U.S. President
            Devout Christian

  • WTS/JAY

    In 513 Days Between Trayvon Dying and the Zimmerman Trial Verdict, 11,106 Blacks Have Been Murdered by OTHER BLACKS

    To be exact, the shameful truth is that 93% of African-American murders are committed by other African-Americans. That is breathtakingly awful when you consider how incensed the African-American community is about the Trayvon tragedy, no matter what you believe about Zimmerman’s guilt.

    Let’s do the gruesome math, not out of morbidity, but because it manifests the incredible self-centered insanity of people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

    8,000-9,000 African-Americans are murdered each year.

    93% of them by other African-Americans.

    That’s 7,905 (from average)

    That’s 21.65 murdered each day by other African-Americans.

    And these racebaiting culture-hustling microphone-pimps only get riled up when a “White Hispanic” kills an African-American?

    http://www.soopermexican.com/2013/07/14/in-513-days-between-trayvon-dying-and-the-zimmerman-trial-verdict-11106-blacks-have-been-murdered-by-other-blacks/

  • Dave

    George Zimmerman was found innocent;
    What it means:
    This verdict means that anyone can use the “hold your ground” law in just about any instance when there is a fight and justification to shoot and kill that person and get off scott free. Because in a fight, it is a completely emotional event and you feel that your life could be threatened. All you need to do now is pull your gun in a fight so instead of getting a few scraps and cuts… A person’s life is ended.
    A person in the Zimmerman role can also now become the victim of the warping of the “stand your ground” ruling… Think about it, you are being followed by a stranger, you tell that person to stop and they do not listen, the person being followed feels their life is in danger by the person following them and out comes the gun… (bang) the Zimmerman role person is dead. The Martin role tells the jury… “But I was afraid for my life” and they now have precedent to acquit.
    Maybe this is what the gun nuts want. More guns carried by more people that have zero respect for a gun and what it is, like the Zimmerman’s of the world. But if you live in FL, the flood gates have just been opened.

    • WTS/JAY

      Hey Dave, in 513 days between Trayvon dying and the Zimmerman trial verdict, 11,106 blacks have been murdered by other blacks…so Dave, do you have a speech that?

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        Nope, he does NOT, because otherwise his psychopathic comrades will label him “RACIST”.

        • WTS/JAY

          Ah, you know them so well, Alondra!

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            Life experience, Jay, Life experience.
            I see them without ex-ray and MRI

          • WTS/JAY

            Did you ever see the movie, “They live”?

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            No, I did not. But right now I watched two clips of:
            1) Fight Scene
            2) The Moment of Revelation
            As I understood, it’s about people, who are controlled by rich elite and thru sunglasses the protagonist gets Revelation.

        • Dave

          Hey Jay and Alondra,

          I did not bring race into this, you two did. neither of you have the synaptic connections to discuss the fall out of this verdict it seems.
          Then again, conservatives don’t do critical and forward thinking well.

          • WTS/JAY

            So, we should have found him guilty regardless of lack of evidence, just so we could avoid offending a few thousand plants, err…i mean, the Democratic voting-block? Hmm, speaking of synaptic-connections, yours don’t seem to be firing too well, Dave!

          • Dave

            Lack of evidence?
            Zimmerman saw Martin walking through his development. Zimmerman even said Martin was doing nothing wrong, just looked “suspicious” (Do you know what that means in Zimmerman’s mind?)
            He followed Martin, Martin asked him to stop… Zimmerman did not
            Zimmerman then called the police for some strange reason and the police told Zimmerman to back off. Zimmerman refused to comply.
            Martin then confronted Zimmerman they had words and then they fought, in another time… Zimmerman would have just had bruises and cuts…
            But Zimmerman killed Martin…
            He cited his “stand your ground” rights under FL law.
            Am I missing something?
            He should of at least got manslaughter for this complete overreaction to an average fight. Maybe girls like you have never been in a fight before but its no excuse to pull a gun and kill a person.

          • WTS/JAY

            Yes Dave, lack of evidence. There was insufficient evidence to prove Zimmerman killed Trayvon in cold-blood, understand? Conversely, there was ample evidence that Zimmerman shot Trayvon in self-defence! Now, I’m sorry that Zimmerman is a white-Hispanic, and not, African-American, as i’m quite sure then, that the case would not have registered on the Brain-dead-Media, and you and i would not be having this conversation!!!

          • Dave

            Really?
            So if you and I have words and we start to fight and I am kicking your butt, you have the right to shot me with your gun? Really?
            What a bunch of puzzies you conservatives are. Can’t take a beating like a man?

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Come on up here to 175 Waterfall Drive in Elkhart. We can sit under a big oak tree on a bench, warm up, and go for it. I’ll just have you write a letter to your folks first. Here is an article showing what was covered yp about Trayvon. Sheesh! Almost like Obama bin Laden.
            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/trayvon-martins-involvement-in-local-burglaries-covered-up-by-media-school-police-prosecutors/
            Why would they do this? Because the wouldn’t want the jury to know that he was just some dumb punk? Here is an article showing that social justice was done.
            http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/07/george-zimmerman-not-guilty-social-justice-served/
            The power of prayer, the power of prayer. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “A man who refuses to learn has a stagnant mind.”
            Sir Francis Bacon
            *Learn from this one Dave.

          • Bob666

            Well, Well, Well Geisha Boy,

            That is just really Christian of you-going to take everyone on this board on???? I wonder how that complies with the rules of PLD?

            But wait, Rules don’t apply to hypocrites like you do they…..

            Yup-You’re a real special kind of Christian!

            “It is between fifty and sixty years since I read it and I then considered it as merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams.”

            Thomas Jefferson, 2nd U.S. President.

            Jefferson said this about the book of Revelation in a letter to General Alexander Smyth dated January 17, 1825.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            First, Jefferson was the 3rd President. Second, you have only used part of the quote he said and have misinterpreted that. Sheesh! Speaking of the rules here, have you looked in the mirror on that comment? You name call, try to ambush people, duck and cover, use misdirection, etc., but yet you try to wrap everything up in the flag and claim 1st Amendment. Sorry Bob, but it seems you have forgotten that our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people (according to John Adams) and is inadequate for any other. You don’t seem to fit the mold Bob. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “A man that lives only for revenge keeps his own wounds green.”
            Sir Francis Bacon
            *Take the hint Bob.

          • Bob666

            Yo No Nads,

            “First, Jefferson was the 3rd President”. You are correct on that one, I was in error and as a Man-I admit it.

            “Sheesh! Speaking of the rules here, have you looked in the mirror on that comment? How so Sammy-I dont play the holy Pius card-you do.

            “You name call”

            Like you do Obama bin Laden?.

            “try to ambush people” Really-care to give an example?

            “duck and cover”, -care to give an example?

            “use misdirection” -care to give an example?,

            “but yet you try to wrap everything up in the flag and claim 1st Amendment”. Yes Sammy-it applies to the everyone-Not just you.

            “Sorry Bob, but it seems you have forgotten that our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people (according to John Adams) and is inadequate for any other. You don’t seem to fit the mold Bob”.

            Well little Hypocrite, I am a far more moral person than you will ever hope to be and no, you are just plain wrong. A quote from one of how many who signed the U.S. Constitution?

            “Where did we get the Ten Commandments? The book indeed gives them to us verbatim, but where did it get them? For itself tells us they were written by
            the finger of God on tables of stone, which were destroyed by Moses.… But the whole history of these books is so defective and doubtful, that it seems vain to attempt minute inquiry into it.… We have a right to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine.

            In a letter to John Adams dated January 24, 1814.

            Thomas Jefferson

          • Jeff

            Faque:

            I think Jesus must have inspired that last post. You may be the phoniest “religious” person I’ve ever encountered.

          • WTS/JAY

            Dave: Really?So if you and I have words and we start to fight and I am kicking your butt, you have the right to shot me with your gun? Really?

            You know that you can kill a man with your bare-hands, right Dave? It happens every day. It didn’t happen to Zimmerman because fortunately, Zimmerman was armed, and Trayvon was not! There’s a difference between kicking the [expletive deleted] out of someone and trying to kill someone. Since you weren’t there, you can’t say for sure!

          • JeffH

            Yes you dufus…he never cited his “stand your ground” law…DUH!

            The looney Dave47D says “Zimmerman then called the police for some strange reason and the police told Zimmerman to back off.”

            Outright lie: Zimmerman never called the police and the police never told Zimmerman to back off”.

            Zimmerman refused nothing, especially your delusional order to stop following Martin.

            When it was suggested by the 911 operator that they “didn’t need him to do that”(follow Martin) Zimmerman responded with “OK”!

            Your whole arguement is based on your own predjudicial conjecture.

            Zimmerman can thank God that the jury ruled on the evidence and not looney Dave47D’s conjecture.

            What I find most entertaining is that the looney tune Dave47D thinks people fight like the old days, when only fists were used and the fighters generally shook hands after the fist fight. HELLO! This is 2013, not 1960 and nobody fights “fair” anymore…even a caveman can understand that’s just the way it is now.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No response possible due to lack of intellectual content. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            ou need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

      • Dave

        Yes, I do… We have a complete lack of respect for the “gun” and what it means to own a gun from a responsibility standpoint. There is also this ridiculous drug war that has failed miserably.
        Then thanks to Ronald Reagan and the rest of the corporatists, it is now more common for two people to have to work full time plus to make ends meet for a family which affects the family dynamic adversely.
        Unions are all but dead so the middle class and poor have less of the economic pie than they did 40 years ago. That has also played a part in the equation.
        So Alondra, you can jump back on your meds at any time instead of talking out of your hind quarters like you usually do.

        • WTS/JAY

          I’m sorry Dave, but your comment is totally incoherent…! I’m really not sure what point you are trying to make. I would suggest that you first calm down and take a deep breath, and, when you are sufficiently calm, take another stab at it, ok?…(-:

          • Dave

            Ok, for the mentally challenged in the audience.
            Money
            Lack of family structure
            the failed drug war
            That is the reasons for much of the murder in the country. I used too many words for you. Sorry.

          • WTS/JAY

            And, your POINT???

        • JeffH

          Heh, heh…the world is crumbling around you Dave47D but I’m curious as to who this “we” you are speaking of.

          I wonder if the real problems weren’t caused by the Marxist, communist, fascist, progressive takeover in America and, particularly in the political system?

          DUH, I don’t wonder, I know…just read the rantings and ravings of the board commi/ progressives, unhinged Jeff, severely unhinged Dave47D, nc, rbrooks and KGB + a few others.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Smilee, Doc Sarvis, Truesoy, JON, and others I could name, by why dirty up the site? Here are some things that they could look up and see the light, hopefully.
            http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=131332
            http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=144096
            http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=56
            http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=51
            http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=44
            http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=43
            I could list more, but I don’t want to be warned about trying to push a particular site or article. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, and the people he chose for His own inheritance.”
            Psalms 33:12

          • smilee

            You are blinded by all these lying propaganda sites so your recommendations shed no light what so ever on anything

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Original documents and writings from academia are propaganda sites? I think you need to roll over and go back to sleep. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Better to fight for something than to die for nothing.”
            General George S. Patton, Jr.

          • smilee

            Original Documents?????????????, The Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution in your opinion then is nothing but propaganda because many of these authors were from academia at the time!!!! Writings from academia are by educated people and I’m sure that is to deep for you to understand. Your nuttier than a fruit cake!!!!!!!!!

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Now you try to twist my words, eh? Sorry dude, but you have failed miserably. I was refering to your personal attack about my sources. BTW, when are you going to start correctly interpreting the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution without the lib/prog/secular spin? Here is something about your girlfriend Hitlery.
            http://www.joeforamerica.com/2013/07/hillary-clinton-hates-america-but-loves-herself/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “Wherefore grid up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.”
            1 Peter 1:13

          • smilee

            If you say I failed miserably that really means I am a Hugh success as your the biggest liar on this site. My response was right on and truthful which you seem to have a very hard time understanding.

    • JeffH

      Uh Dave47D, do your homework rather than spewing your normal emotionally charged and ignorant rant.

      Zimmerman did not invoke his right to claim the Florida “Stand Your Ground” law as a defense for the shooting. Therefore it never played a role in the trial…nada, none…which means zero!

      Under the law(Florida’s “stand your ground”), which broadens the right to self-defense for people who feel threatened outside their homes, a defendant can ask the judge to grant criminal immunity before a case goes to trial.

      Zimmerman had that chance and declined it…instead preferring to be tried by a jury of his peers who, after weighing all of the evidence presented, ruled that Zimmerman was not guilty of second degree murder or even manslaughter…that means they agreed 100% and unanimously the Zimmerman did fear for his life and his shooting Martin was therefore justified.

      • Dave
        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          Using a libturd rag or the MSM to justify what you are saying? Ha, ha, ha, ha! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
          “In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior.”
          John Quincy Adams
          6th President of the U.S.
          Devout Christian

          • Jeff

            What do you think John Quincy Adams would think of your clownish posts?

          • JeffH

            Clownish? That’s a joke right?
            He’d see a patriot that does his homework and one that believes in the Constitution, freedom and liberty for all and especially the “rule of law”… unlike what he’d see in your posts unhinged Jeff.

          • Jeff

            I think “clownish” is putting it kindly. “Libturd,” “Obama Bin Laden,” “leaves you out”? Hardly the language of an intelligent being. But you’re so wedded to your ideology you can’t recognize your ally “Samurai” is at least half nuts. The stuff he posts makes me think he’s returned to the hard stuff he was on before the Jesus business.

          • JeffH

            unhinged Jeff, I do apologize…I erroneously thought that comment was directed at me.

            By the way, can I guess that you have no further arguement and have accepted the fact the substance of the self defense instruction to the jury was not “stand your ground” as opposed to traditional self defense?

          • Jeff

            Not at all. I heard the instruction. It was pure “stand your ground.” Look it up.

          • JeffH

            Well unhinged Jeff, I read the court transcript and posed the link above…you heard wrong and reading the transcript might help youto comprehend it a little better.

          • Jeff

            Here you go. Read this. It won’t change your mind but maybe it will improve your vocabulary a tad:

            Zimmerman Trial Jury Instructions Included Explanation Of Stand Your Ground Defense. The jury instructions for the Zimmerman trial, meant to be a guide for the relevant charges and defenses under Florida law, included the Stand Your Ground justification for homicide:

            In deciding whether George Zimmerman was justified in the use of deadly force, you must judge him by the circumstances by which he was surrounded at the time the force was used. The danger facing George Zimmerman need not have been actual; however, to justify the use of deadly force, the appearance of danger must have been so real that a reasonably cautious and prudent person under the same circumstances would have believed that the danger could be avoided only through the use of that force. Based upon appearances, George Zimmerman must have actually believed that the danger was real.

            If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in anyplace where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony. [Scribd.com, via Media Matters for America, accessed 7/16/13, emphasis added]

            Stand Your Ground Opponent Dan Gelber: Law “Fundamentally Changed The Analysis Used By Juries To Assign Blame In These Cases.” On his blog, Gelber, a former Florida state senator, provided the pre-Stand Your Ground jury instructions which would have asked whether Zimmerman “used every reasonable means within his power and consistent with his own safety to avoid the danger before resorting to that force”:

            In 2005 the Florida Legislature fundamentally changed the analysis used by juries to assign blame in these cases. When the legislature passed the Stand Your Ground law it changed the rules of engagement. It eliminated the duty to avoid the danger and it eliminated any duty to retreat.

            If the Trayvon Martin killing was tried prior to the Stand Your Ground law being passed, the jury would have been told that self-defense was not available to Zimmerman unless he had used every reasonable means to avoid the danger. The jury would have been told that even if they believed Zimmerman had been attacked wrongfully by Trayvon, he could not use deadly force if he could have safely retreated or run away.

            Here is the actual jury instruction read to Florida juries prior to the legislature’s enactment of Stand Your Ground.

            “The defendant cannot justify the use of force likely to cause death or great bodily harm unless he used every reasonable means within his power and consistent with his own safety to avoid the danger before resorting to that force.

            The fact that the defendant was wrongfully attacked cannot justify his use of force likely to cause death or great bodily harm if by retreating he could have avoided the need to use that force.”

            In this case, did Zimmerman use “every reasonable means within his power…to avoid the danger” or did he follow Trayvon despite admonitions that he did not need to? [The Gelber Blog, 7/14/13, emphasis original]

          • JeffH

            It was straight from “Media Matters” that added their take adding this piece…”Zimmerman Trial Jury Instructions Included Explanation Of Stand Your Ground Defense. The jury instructions for the Zimmerman trial, meant to be a guide for the relevant charges and defenses under Florida law, included the Stand Your Ground justification for homicide:…”

            The jury instructions did not, in any way, include an explanation of the “Stand Your Ground Defense”.

            Here is the exact quote from the transcript:

            “If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in anyplace where he had a right to be…
            “…he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.”

            Now you tell me how that becomes an explanation of the “Stand Your Ground” law?

            It doesn’t explane or define the law at all…it merely states that if Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in anyplace where he had a right to be that he had obligation to retreat and had every right to stand and fight force with force.

            You can twist it any way you want but that doesn’t negate the facts or the actual wording paraphrased from the judge to the jury in the instructions.

            Just because you want it to be doesn’t make it so!

          • JeffH

            samurai’s not wrong unhinged Jeff…you get back exactly what you deserve.

            You ought to take a long look in the mirror…your posts are mostly that of an unhinged and emotionally traumatized & ignorant progressive.

          • Katrael

            Have you looked in the mirror lately?

          • Jeff

            Katrael:
            I didn’t realize you were still around. I thought you and Uncle Bumbler gathered your guns and ran off together to shoot something. Have you actually read this “Samurai’s” posts? He presumes to “speak for Jesus” while name-calling everyone he disagrees with. I thought calling him “clownish” was about as charitable a description as I could come up with.

          • Katrael

            I don’t own any firearms. I sold them all so I couldn’t have run off with the person you call Uncle Bumbler. I’m just a busy person and don’t always have time to leave comments or to get into discussions on matters. On the other hand you seem to have a grasp on name calling yourself. I rather like most of what samurai has to say. I feel that many progressives such as yourself see the bogey man in anybody who owns firearms.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Show me where I was talking for Jesus. Clownish? I guess you just came up with another word to describe yourself. I don’t attack a post because it is different than how I believe, it is usually in the way I am addressed. I was a soldier for 20 years and went through rigorous training. So, if someone attacks me on this site, the normal reaction is to fire back. Not firing back is not an option. Here is something that shows a professional NCO being punished by an liberally deranged officer.
            http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/11760/military-punishes-27-year-veteran-over-personal-beliefs/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves yout out.
            “The great pillars of all government and of social life are virtue, morality, and religion. This is the armor, my friend, and this alone, that renders us invincible.”
            Patrick Henry
            Letter to Archibald Blair
            January 08, 1799
            Devout Christian

          • Jeff

            Congratulations. You wrote a post without using any stupid names. I never thought I’d see it.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            How people address me, I will respond in kind. Fair enough? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Thanks fellow patriot. Right back at you. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

        • JeffH

          What shoe size is your mouth looney Dave47D?

          Well looney Dave47D…I’ll repeat it once again and not from my hind quarters.

          (AP) ORLANDO, Florida – The attorney for the man who shot and killed unarmed Florida teenager Trayvon Martin said Monday he’ll seek to get the case dismissed using a traditional self-defense argument and not the state’s “stand your ground” statute.

          Mark O’Mara, who is defending George Zimmerman against a second-degree murder charge in the fatal February shooting, said the traditional self-defense approach is appropriate because the facts suggest his client couldn’t retreat from a beating Martin was giving him.

          O’Mara said that he would not have to invoke any part of the “stand your ground” statute under the strategy he plans to use.

          “I don’t’ like ‘stand your ground’ because I’m not sure it’s a ‘stand your ground’ case,” O’Mara said.

          University of Miami law professor Tamara Lave said this change by O’Mara may be a signal that he thinks his case for self-defense is solid even without the special provisions afforded by “stand your ground.”

          “‘Stand your ground’ makes it easier to prevail under self-defense theory than the law that existed beforehand,” Lave said. “I think what he’s saying is his case is so strong that he doesn’t need ‘stand your ground.'”
          http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57492488/george-zimmermans-attorneys-wont-use-stand-your-ground-defense/

          In a pretrial immunity hearing, a judge would have ruled whether Zimmerman’s actions were protected under the “stand your ground” law; a ruling in favor of the defendant would have meant that no criminal or civil trial could proceed.

          • JeffH

            Zimmerman Lawyers Waive ‘Stand Your Ground’ Hearing
            http://nation.time.com/2013/03/07/zimmerman-lawyers-waive-stand-your-ground-hearing/
            In a surprise move leading up to the murder trial of George Zimmerman, defense lawyers have waived his right to a “stand your ground” hearing, removing the last major barrier to bringing the case to trial this summer.
            _______________________________

            Zimmerman to argue self-defense, will not seek ‘stand your ground’ hearing.
            http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/30/justice/florida-zimmerman-defense
            CNN) — George Zimmerman, set to stand trial in the 2012 shooting death of teenager Trayvon Martin, on Tuesday waived his right to a “stand your ground” pretrial immunity hearing. Zimmerman’s attorneys have decided they will try this as a self-defense case.

            In a pretrial immunity hearing, a judge would have ruled whether Zimmerman’s actions were protected under the “stand your ground” law; a ruling in favor of the defendant would have meant that no criminal or civil trial could proceed.

          • Jeff

            But did you read or hear the jury instruction on self defense? It was pure “stand your ground” as opposed to a traditional self defense instruction. Would a traditional self defense instruction made a difference? We’ll never know, but I think it’s likely, particularly given the initial divisions amongst the jurors.

          • JeffH

            Irrelevant, Zimmerman and his attorneys rejected the “stand your ground” defense…again irrelevant.

            Conjecture and hearsay.

          • Jeff

            Excuse me, your honor, did you read or hear the jury instruction? Zimmerman did not pursue the pre-trial hearing permitted by the statute, but the substance of the self defense instruction to the jury was “stand your ground” as opposed to traditional self defense. That’s not my opinion; it’s a fact.

          • JeffH

            Yes, I did read the jury instructions and the substance of the self defense instruction was not “stand your ground”.

            I’ll quote the exact words for you and the only time “stand your ground” was ever mentioned in the instructions under the page heading:

            “JUSTIFIABLE USE OF DEADLY FORCE”(page 12)
            http://www.scribd.com/doc/153354467/George-Zimmerman-Trial-Final-Jury-Instructions

            If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in anyplace where he had a right to be…
            “…he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

            In considering the issue of self-defense, you may take into account the relative physicalabilities and capacities of George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin.

            If in your consideration of the issue of self-defense you have a reasonable doubt on the question of whether George Zimmerman was justified in the use of deadly force, you should find George Zimmerman not guilty.

            I’m sure you can read that the “SUBSTANCE OF THE SELF DEFENSE was not “stand your ground”!
            The real question that remains…can you even comprehend?

          • Jeff

            Here’s the actual jury instruction. The stand your ground law has changed the traditional definition of self-defense:
            JUSTIFIABLE USE OF DEADLY FORCE
            An issue in this case is whether George Zimmerman acted in self-defense. It is a
            defense to the crime of Second Degree Murder, and the lesser included offense of
            Manslaughter, if the death of Trayvon Martin resulted from the justifiable use of deadly force.
            “Deadly force” means force likely to cause death or great bodily harm.
            A person is justified in using deadly force if he reasonably believes that such force is
            necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself.
            In deciding whether George Zimmerman was justified in the use of deadly force, you
            must judge him by the circumstances by which he was surrounded at the time the force was
            used. The danger facing George Zimmerman need not have been actual; however, to justify
            the use of deadly force, the appearance of danger must have been so real that a reasonably
            cautious and prudent person under the same circumstances would have believed that the
            danger could be avoided only through the use of that force. Based upon appearances, George
            Zimmerman must have actually believed that the danger was real.
            If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any
            place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his
            ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was
            necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent
            the commission of a forcible felony.
            In considering the issue of self-defense, you may take into account the relative physical
            abilities and capacities of George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin.
            If in your consideration of the issue of self-defense you have a reasonable doubt on the
            question of whether George Zimmerman was justified in the use of deadly force, you should
            find George Zimmerman not guilty

            Here is a more traditional self-defense instruction:

            SELF-DEFENSE (USE OF DEADLY FORCE)

            Evidence has been introduced bearing on the issue of self-defense, as justification for the killing of (victim)_______________. The State bears the burden of proving that the killing was unlawful. A killing committed in lawful self-defense is lawful, and not a crime. Here the State must have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that (Def)_______________ did not act in self-defense. [He] [She] has no burden of proof on this issue.

            A person has the right to defend [himself] [herself] when [he] [she] is attacked, or when [he] [she] reasonably believes [he] [she] is in imminent danger of being killed or suffering great bodily harm. A person in that situation has the right to use only such force as is reasonably necessary to repel the attack or the perceived imminent danger.

            A killing is justified by self-defense if:

            (1) (Def)_______________ reasonably believed that [he] [she] was in imminent danger of being killed or of suffering great bodily harm, and

            (2) (Def)_______________’s use of deadly force was reasonably necessary to repel the perceived threat.

            The right of self-defense does not require that a person actually be assaulted, but (Def)_______________ must have believed that [he] [she] was in imminent danger of great bodily harm, and [his] [her] belief must have been reasonable under the circumstances. [His] [Her] expectation of harm must have been based upon fact, and not on some imaginary fear. Furthermore, if [he] [she] honestly and reasonably believed it was immediately necessary to use deadly force to protect himself from an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury, the law does not require [him] [her] to retreat.

            Self-defense requires that (Def)_______________ must have had a reasonable fear of imminent harm. In deciding this issue, you may consider what [he] [she] knew about (victim)_______________ at the time. You may consider any previous interactions, including any aggressive or hostile conduct by (victim)_______________, and any other evidence you consider relevant, including who started the confrontation.

            When assessing the reasonableness of (Def)_______________’s fear, you may consider the individual characteristics of (Def)_______________ and (victim)_______________, such as their respective size, gender, age, physical condition, strength, stamina, courage, and assertiveness.

            Self-defense permits only the amount of force that is reasonably necessary to repel the perceived harm. A person may use the amount of force that reasonably appears to be necessary under all of the circumstances known to [him] [her] at the time. In this case you must decide whether (Def)_______________ reasonably believed it was necessary to use the amount of force that [he] [she] did use. When a person has reasonable grounds to believe that an assault is imminent, [he] [she] need not wait until it actually occurs before [he] [she] may resort to self-defense.

            Once the issue of self-defense appears in the case, the burden is on the State to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that (Def)_______________ did not act in self-defense, or that the force used by (Def)_______________ was excessive under the circumstances. (Def)_______________ is not required to prove that [he] [she] acted in self-defense.

          • JeffH

            Look ya dummy, try to twist it any way you want to.

            I posted a link to the acual court transcript and I also read it and understood what the instructions said.

            You’re putting a lot of effort to keeping yourself believing what you want to believe.

            Once again, the substance of the self defense instruction was not “stand your ground”…nada, nope, not!

          • Jeff

            Every time I think you may be worth communicating with, I regret it. Scr*w off.

          • JeffH

            “I regret it. Scr*w off.”
            Does that mean you’ll no longer communicate with me?
            LMAO! Wah, wah, wah!

        • JeffH

          Looney Dave47D…

          Of course I knew you wouldn’t respond to the actual facts…you’re speechless now!

          I hope you washed your feet before you stuck them in your mouth…icky!

        • Katrael

          Your own source states that Zimmerman never filed an official stand your ground motion. Here’s a quote from your source: “I think it is important to note that the media sensationalized this
          entire tragedy to be an anti-gun movement,” said state Rep. Carlos
          Trujillo, R-105th District. “At no point did the defense file a Stand
          Your Ground motion. At no point was it brought up to the jury as a
          defense. At no point did it play a role in this episode.”

    • http://batman-news.com samurai

      Lies! Lies! Lies! If he wanted to do the things you describe, then why did he confront him and not draw his firearm? Always the bleeding heart, but never the patriot. Always against the use of firearms, aren’t you? The evidence showed that Martin was on top of Zimmerman, smahing his skull into the sidewalk and he was high at the time (another illegal act). Remember Dave, whether you are drunk, high, or under influence of medication, you are still held accountable for all your actions under the law. If Martin would have just listened, turned around, and left, this so called “trial” would not have happened and Trayvon would still be alive today. If any rioting starts from this, I hope the governors call out their national guard units. Soldiers tend to handle rioters better than the police can, just think back to the ignorant Rodney King riots. President Bush (41) brought in troops from the army to deal with the situation. Notice how quickly things died down once they got there. Soldier don’t have to arrest people, like the police do. If you want to investigate someone, then investigate Michelle bin Laden for having up to 5 SSNs.
      http://www.wtpotus.wordpress.com/2012/04/10/michelle-obama-uses-bogus-social-security-numbers/#more-14819
      FOR GOR AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
      You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
      “Those who sin are to be rebuked publicaly, so that others may take warning.”
      1 Timothy 5:20

      • Dave

        Samurai,
        It is clear by your assertion you have to believe in god to be a patriot, that you are no patriot.
        So people are held accountable???? Where is Zimmerman’s accountability here? So any fight warrants an ok to pull your gun and kill someone if you are losing?
        Is that the lunatic conservative thought process here?

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          No, any fight does not warrant the use of a firearm. Was Zimmerman accountable for his actions? Yes. He was even arrested and placed in jail. He was jailed, tried by a jury of his peers, and found not guilty. Those he will have no criminal record of his actions, but he will live with that decision the rest of his life. Shooting someone is not a normal thing for someone to do, nor is it easy. Take it from this 20 year highly decorated combat veteran. I still remember that ones I have killed, but I am not proud of it. I’ll have memories for the rest of my life, so will Zimmerman. We never forget the ones we shoot or what they did to us, our troops, etc. But it seems you have. I guess that you have never done something like this, which is great, but you can never understand what someone goes through after making the decision to kill someone. Self defense or not. Here is a video from Bruce Willis.
          http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/07/new-bruce-willis-film-red-2-takes-shots-at-obama-nsa/
          Here is one where Zimmerman’s friend buries a libturd reporter alive on television.
          http://www.conservativevideos.com/2013/07/nancy-grace-cuts-mic-of-zimmermans-friend-in-explosive-confrontation/
          Here is a video showing how Harry “Woody Allen” Reid is sticking his big nose into the fray. Though it is none of his business.
          http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/14/Reid-Zimmerman-not-over
          Leave it to a libturd/proturd to try to make any situation worse. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
          “He who is kind to the poor lends to the Lord.”
          Proverbs 19:17

          • Dave

            So OJ was not guilty too… Zimmerman did not receive anything close to a fit punishment for killing a man while in a normal fistfight. Sorry if I don’t accept your conservative rags as credible resources. Breitbart is a typical lying conservative site.
            If you believe you need faith in god to be a patriot than you are not one yourself because the founders called for the separation of church and state for a reason. To protect society from the American Taliban like you.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            The personal attack and argument to ridiucle. Actually, I thought OJ was guilty. Normal fistfight? Banging someones head on the sidewalk in hopes of injuring someone badly is not a normal fistfight. At least I’m providing sources, so what is your excuse? Here is another article showing a picture of Trayvon.
            http://www.weaselzippers.us/2013/07/14/the-picture=of-trayvon-on-night-he-was-shot-that-the-msm-didnt-show/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “That religion, or the duty which we owe to our Creator and the manner of discharging it, can be directed by reason and conviction, not by force or violence; and therefore, all men are equally entitled to the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forbearance, love, and charity towards each other.”
            Virginia Declaration of Rights 1776

          • smilee

            Stuff all your lying sources, all propaganda

          • Bob666

            Yo Smilee,
            Little Geisha Boy really does believe everything on the internet is true.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Actually, tis you that believes everything you are told. Another personal attack? When will you grow up and become a man? No one asked you to come here, so go home. Don’t need anyone who would be considered the bottom of the barrel here. Here is an article about a journalist that would make you and your ilk angry.
            http://www.politicaloutcast.com/journalist-virginia-heffernan-admits-shes-a-creationist-and-drives-evolutionists-crazy/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “Being a Christian is a character which I prize far above all this world has or can boast.”
            Patrick Henry
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Guest

            [comment has been edited]

            let’s look at your pathetic cry for help:

            “Actually, it is you that believes everything you are told”

            Care to cite even an example of this????? This is like the many times that you have called me a liar and I have asked for examples and you provide Nothing-as usual, bold statements-no facts, the Samurai way.

            “Another personal attack? When will you grow up and become a man”?

            What personal attack Geisha Boy-I called you a liar, gave you proof as to the many lies that you have told and called you out-That is man hood……Now you’re a cry baby to-so sad!!!

            ” No one asked you to come here, so go home”

            Well no-nads, No one asked you to come here as well. All of us have to remember that you have special privileges as god’s earthly spokesman to be a full pledged hypocrite at will. I love the first amendment!!!!-you should to as it apply’s to everyone.

            “Don’t need anyone who would be considered the bottom of the barrel here”. But here you are-the bottom of the barrel kind of guY.

            No Balls + Would tell a lie if the truth sounded better +
            Gross Hypocrisy + Not very smart = Samurai!

            Silence is the virtue of fools. — Sir Francis Bacon – Freemason

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Cry for help? No need. I can stand on my own 2 feet and have been doing so since I was young, unlike you, who had everything handed to him in life. Manhood? Since you know nothing of the subject, I shall not go down that road. Since you seem to know nothing of God giving us our rights, not the Constitution, I shall refrain from teaching you at this time. Like others have said and put you back in your place, I just keep on doing what other patriots would do. Correcting you in your obvious delusional state. Sir Francis Bacon also said,”A man who refuses to learn has a stagnant mind.”, and that describes you pretty well. Why always with the Freemason crap? As you can tell by now, no one cares about it. The rest are nothing but personal attacks and arguments to ridicule. BTW, what you are doing is a violation of Bob Livingston’s posting policy. Read and learn, Bob! Read and learn. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “Sometimes by looking back, you can see a clearer path to what lies ahead.”
            Samurai

          • Bob666

            Oh Poor Geisha Boy,

            ” I can stand on my own 2 feet and have been doing so since I was young, unlike you, who had everything handed to him in life”.

            Tell Me, what exactly did I have handed to me?-You have absolutely no fregen Clue-as usual! I am the son of a twenty-five year Army Veteran of WW2, Korea and Nam. You are a Joke!

            “A man who refuses to learn has a stagnant mind.”, and that describes you pretty well. Why always with the Freemason crap” Obviously something you know nothing about!!!

            “As you can tell by now, no one cares about it.” Said by a small man who lacks the capacity to see the world though the eyes of another-but willfully looks through his own myopic view.

            Empty pockets never held anyone back. Only empty heads and empty hearts can do that.
            Norman Vincent Peale,
            American minister and Freemason

          • Bob666

            Yo No Nads,

            let’s look at your pathetic cry for help:

            “Actually, it is you that believes everything you are told”

            Care to cite even an example of this????? This is like the many times that you have called me a liar and I have asked for examples and you provide Nothing-as usual, bold statements-no facts, the Samurai way.

            “Another personal attack? When will you grow up and become a man”?

            What personal attack Geisha Boy-I called you a liar, gave you proof as to the many lies that you have told and called you out-That is man hood……Now you’re a cry baby to-so sad!!!

            ” No one asked you to come here, so go home”

            Well no-nads, No one asked you to come here as well. All of us have to remember that you have special privileges as god’s earthly spokesman to be a full pledged hypocrite at will. I love the first amendment!!!!-you should to as it apply’s to everyone.

            “Don’t need anyone who would be considered the bottom of the barrel here”. But here you are-the bottom of the barrel kind of guY.

            No Balls + Would tell a lie if the truth sounded better +
            Gross Hypocrisy + Not very smart = Samurai!

            Silence is the virtue of fools. — Sir Francis Bacon – Freemason

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No they are not. You are just upset because you can’t tell a lie to cover up the truth. Lying is what you do best. Here are some articles showing how the DHS has prchased large amounts of ammunition.
            http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/bullet-health-fears-dry-up-ammo-supplies/
            http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/palin-washington-buying-bullets-for-us/
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out, you fraud.
            “This is all the inheritance I give to my dear family. The religion of Christ will give them one which will make them rich indeed.”
            Patrick Henry
            November 20, 1798
            Devout Christian

          • smilee

            Your right I cannot tell a lie, that is your speiality

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Your right. You cannot tell a lie to cover up the truth. Though you are an expert at lying. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • smilee

            Typical lying sites are the only ones sammie ever reads and he reads a lot of them. This is why he can never know the truth as all he does is read these falsehoods and thus he is incapable of any honest and correct conclusions. American Taliban or Christian Taliban are great descriptions of him and his type.

          • Katrael

            What ya smiling about? You don’t know what you’re talking about either. Sheesh, too many liberals. You liberals are either afraid of your own shadow and see blazing guns all around you or you are just power hungry and are looking forward to the day when you can take over the world?

          • smilee

            A whole list of assumptions on your part. Truth is nether liberal or conservative it is just simply factual and true. None of what you said was true and that happens when one resorts to assuming. You cannot honestly accuse me of not knowing what I am talking about when you base it on your own assumptions and on nothing that I said. Grow up!!

          • Katrael

            Thank you for your admonition. However, I believe you need to grow up yourself. Sure the truth is the truth if you chose to believe it otherwise you resort to calling something a lie. I know the truth and the truth is that the liberal/progressive mindset is destroying this country.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            You have to excuse sleepee as he knows nothing of the truth. I worked with him before and he is no good human being. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • Katrael

            There was something in one of smelly’s post that set me off. I think it was when he said the feds should get involved. There seems to be something about people like smelly that I have a hard time with. I feel the same way when I read stuff from Dave and others like him… such as deer in water and flashy.to name a few. I feel like getting in their faces…so to speak. This whole thing has gotten out of hand over this thing. If the result of the altercation between the two had ended in Zimmerman’s death then the media would never have played that story up the way they have this one.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            You are correct, but don’t expect them to think or be objective. It isn’t in their nature. The feds get involved? It is none of their business and sleepee just says these less intelligent things just to get rises out of people. The man has no conscience. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”
            Patrick Henry
            Founding father
            Devout Christian

          • Katrael

            Well, he got a rise out of me. I believe that even his moniker bothers me: smilee! Of course smilee might actually be his name? Why would the nickname smileee bother me? Because of his inane posts and that nickname suggests just the point you made.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Keep up the good fight fellow patriot. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            Lying again sleepee? Remember sleepee, the real truth can never be molded, spun, or bent into any shape or belief. You and your ilke are good at distorting the truth. Now be quiet and go home. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “There are no atheists in fox holes.”
            Samurai

          • Katrael

            You don’t have anything more than your own suppositions to go on and you can’t say Zimmerman was guilty for anything other than killing another man which very easily could have been in self defense. And that’s how the jury saw it.

        • WTS/JAY

          Dave: So any fight warrants an ok to pull your gun and kill someone if you are losing?

          Losing what, your life? Clearly, Trayvon was trying to take Zimmerman’s life. And why? you may ask…because, Trayvon was being watched, and, as long as he was being watched, it made it impossible for Trayvon to carry on with his intentions…?

          • Dave

            Really? What proof did you have that Martin was trying to take Zimmerman’s life? You have no clue, I believe he was simply kicking Zimmerman’s butt after being warned not once, but twice about following Martin after Zimmerman caught Martin walking through his development while black… Even Zimmerman said in the call Martin was doing nothing illegal. And Zimmerman with all of his extensive experience as a member of the neighborhood watch group knows illegal activity when he sees it right?
            Take your weak explanation somewhere else. You have ZERO proof that Martin was trying to kill Zimmerman.

          • WTS/JAY

            Its not me you need to convince that Zimmerman is the notorious “black-killer”, Dave, but the 6 women jury! Oh wait, the trial is over, and Zimmerman was found “not-guilty”, and Zimmerman is therefore, a free-man! Live with it!

          • Dave

            OJ is innocent too…We all have to live with an imperfect justice system and society. Its just amazing how quick some here say Martin got what he deserved because to use FF’s words… Martin looked like a “thug”

          • JeffH

            The Progressive loon Dave47D says “OJ is innocent too”

            Well, yes, he was aquitted and did not go to prison for the murder of his ex, but he did get convicted and is doing prison time for a crime he did commit…he’s serving nine to 33 years in the Nevada State Prison for robbery, weapons charges and kidnapping charges.

          • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

            JeffH, look for the information I posted above.

          • JeffH

            Alondra, that’s what I would expect from the fraud and his handlers…never surprised by anything anymore…Clinton, Nixon…they’re all party to the same greedy power hungry eletists gobbling up the worlds wealth.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I guess he had to raise some more money to pay the millions the court ordered him to pay. Here is an article showing someone defending the social justice system.
            http://www.victoriajackson.com9274/christian-college-president-defends-social-justice
            Don’t tell the libs as they would tell a bunch of crap on this thread. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot.
            “A man who lives only for revenge keeps his own wounds green.”
            Francis Bacon

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            I think Trayvon jumping him and trying to bash his skull into the sidewalk could be considered as life threatening, couldn’t it? Here is anarticle about a racist organization wanting to pursue civil rights charges against Zimmerman.
            http://www.dailycaller.com/2013/07/13/naacp-calls-on-obama-admin-to-pursue-civil-rights-charges-against-zimmerman/
            Here is an article showing what an NFL star said about Zimmerman.
            http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2013/07/13/Victor-Cruz-Zimmerman-Tweet
            FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
            “A person who has the answer and doesn’t know it is just as lost as he who never knew.”
            Samurai

          • Dave

            I guess with all your military experience Samurai that you say you have had, the avg street fight is lost on you as you live in your ivory tower.
            I could be punching you in the face repeatedly, that could be considered life threatening too under your definition. In a previous era, Zimmerman would have had is butt kicked and a few bruises… (did you see his injuries after the fight?) Apparently not. I don’t believe you have ever been in any sort of fight in your life because with the high emotions running and your adrenaline jacked, you believe you could be in a life threatening situation with any fight. But that excuses pulling a gun and killing a guy because he got the better of you after you started the trouble in the first place?
            Please…

          • Katrael

            Your supposition that Zimmerman is guilty of murder is just that: supposition. I’ve seen your type before: guilty until proven innocent.

          • http://batman-news.com samurai

            No response due to lack of intellectual content. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
            You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

          • Katrael

            You don’t have any proof that Martin wasn’t trying to kill Zimmerman.

          • Jeff

            Trayvon hit Zimmerman one time. There were no cuts or bruises on his hands so he wasn’t beating Zimmerman to death. He had 2 small cuts on his head, consistent with 1 or 2 blows to the concrete. By the time he drew his gun, they were on the grass. He claimed Trayvon saw his gun and grabbed for it. How convenient, particularly since the gun was in his pants behind him. If he was pinned and dying like he claimed, how did he get the gun? Was it like Popeye and his spinach can? And why wasn’t Trayvon’s blood all over Zimmerman? It’s possible it was self defense, but I don’t buy Zimmerman’s story at all.

            He lied about his bail funds. And he lied about his knowledge of the stand your ground law. His explanation just fits the requirements of self defense a little too neatly. Of course, he says he stopped pursuing Trayvon just before he was attacked. If you believe his story, I’ve got some swampland in Florida for you.

            The jury acquitted him because of the Court’s explanation of Florida law (ie stand your ground self defense as opposed to traditional self defense) and because they could not relate to Trayvon as a teenager. They bought into Zimmerman’s “state of mind” just trying to protect the neighborhood. Bull. He’s a vigilante who broke at least two rules of Neighborhood Watch. He pursued the “suspect” even though the “suspect” did nothing suspicious and he carried a gun.

            He beat the rap and won’t go to jail, but he fully deserves all the hatred he’ll endure until he’s forgotten. He needs to move to a lily white community where he won’t be bothered by the sight of any suspicious (read: Black) individuals.

        • http://batman-news.com samurai

          As I have said in a posting a little further down the line, no, just because you are in a fight does not mean you can pull a firearm. Who swung first? Zimmerman or Taryvon? Did Zimmerman try talking to Trayvon or did he immediately go to guns on him? Zimmerman did not pull out his gun till he felt his life and limb were in danger. We are accountable for every action we do, good, bad, or indifferent. Just because he didn’t go to jail does not mean he isn’t accountable. He’ll asnwer before God for his decision. Now Obama bin Laden is thinking about filing federal charges, maybe civil rights violations, against Zimmerman, which would be a crock of bull. Trayvon’s parents could file civil suits against him, like they did with OJ. BTW, why wasn’t OJ found guilty? They are both minorities, but OJ had more money and was a former football superstar, but how did he get off? Zimmerman’s judge was a libturd, the jury was mostly women, the press having a field day with this, crazy people outside the court building protesting, and a prosecutor who violated Zimmerman’s God-given Constitutional rights. He had all these strikes against him, so how was he found not guilty? Here is an article showing how is rights were violated.
          http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Dershowitz-Zimmerman-Prosecutorial-Misconduct/2013/07/14/id/514957?s=al&promo_code=142A9-1
          Here is one about Eric Holder, the man responsible for the death of a border agent, talking about possible federal charges.
          http://www.thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/310843-holder-faces-big-decision-on-zimmerman
          FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!
          You need both love of country and faith in GOD to be a patriot. This leaves you out.
          “Sometimes by looking back, you can see a clearer path to what lies ahead.”
          Samurai

          • smilee

            A federal charge would clear the air as to weather GZ was racially motivated and that is a federal crime and this should not be left unanswered. OJ was acquitted because the jury found that there was reasonable doubt, the prosecution and the judge both blew that case big time and the same happened with with GZ but prosecutor and the judge did their jobs this time and given the law this may very well have been the right verdict as the law did not require any accountability for his actions prior to the shooting, only weather he was defending his life at the moment he shot Trav. The lawmakers screwed this one up as there is no laws on watchers and vigilantes and that loop hole makes GZ a free man and unaccountable for actions he did prior to the shooting. You cannot blame a truck-driver for driving over you and killing you if you jumped out in front of his moving truck. This is very similar and many here have tried t blame Trav who was in the same position as the truck driver.

        • Katrael

          Perhaps you could tell us what you would be doing if someone was trying to open up your skull on the pavement? Looks to me like two people made mistakes and it cost a life. It could have gone either way don’t you think. What if Martin had killed Zimmerman instead? Would we have seen this much media attention. My girlfriends grandson was killed by a black man who was just out looking for someone to kill and it happened to be her grandson. This is what the man confessed to and yet this murder didn’t go viral in the media. It barely got coverage in the town where it happened. My point here is simple: you don’t know what the ;lsdf;l you’re talking about.

          • Jeff

            Had Martin killed Zimmerman, he’d have been arrested (or shot) on the spot. And somehow I doubt his self defense/stand your ground defense would have been so readily accepted by the jury.

      • Jeff

        Why do you think the rules of Neighborhood Watch are (1) report suspicious activity to the police and (2) no guns? Because a lot of NW guys are like Zimmerman and guns in the hands of morons get people killed.

    • WTS/JAY

      It appears that you and the rest of your left-wing apes are suffering from a condition known as: “Liberal white-guilt”, Dave! What is Liberal white-guilt? It is the “Liberal Death Wish”!

      The rules governing race relations in the U.S. have been established within the framework of a Liberal ideology. This is true for both Whites and Blacks.

      Modern “Liberalism” is an ideology based on “White guilt”, but it offers no answers, no solutions, no redemption, and no real-world explanation for that “guilt” . . . instead, it offers grandiose procedures, which only serve to irritate their self-imposed guilt feelings:

      “By constantly emphasizing Black “victimology”; and for those same liberal-Whites, the focus is on continuous correction, on continuous re-education, on self-criticism and heightened sensitivity and (“sensitivity-training”), on revisionist history, on more taxpayer dollars, on more affirmative-action, on more government-tribunals, on more groveling and kowtowing to the latest Black-fetish, fad, demand, gimmick, or outrage”.

      For the White-Liberal, there is no amount of White-groveling, no amount of White-suffering, no amount of Black-on-White murder, torture, mayhem, rape, robbery, humiliation, and degradation that will suffice to atone for the injustices, real or imagined, of the past. For the Liberal, there is no end or no terminal point, to the problem of guilt. There is no saying, “Our work is finally done.” There is no saying, “Enough is enough.” There is no moment for the soul to be at peace. Facing realities is not the way of white-Liberals. Liberal-guilt is never appeased. Liberal-guilt is obsessive and insatiable.

      Thus, the White-liberal is perpetually and morally disarmed before the Black-person. However, Liberals will constantly remind the rest of us that we must go to ridiculous lengths to self-monitor our every word, thought, and move. Those same Liberals constantly remind us that we must adopt a demeaning “racial-etiquette” that is so extensive, so demanding, so humiliating, so masochistic, so impossible and unpredictable, that ordinary day-to-day living with Black people becomes problematic, becomes filled with tricks and tension, with dangerous, hidden, racial land mines just waiting to explode.

      When it comes to relations between Whites and other races, Liberal-guilt demands that Whites must always obey the subtle, obscure, and tortuous rules so carefully built up by decades of Liberal guilt-mongering –– that Whites must lead a life that is full of stress, without fun and laughter, where we must re-think, and then re-re-think again, our every thought and every move, where all enjoyment in life is compromised or denied, where our best intentions are always met with suspicion or hostility, where every joke becomes problematic, where our every word is subject to mis-interpretation, where our every innocent remark is rebuked with an insult, where our most sincere apologies are never accepted, where our genuine friendship is not reciprocated, where our utmost generosity is never good enough, and where we are constantly reminded of the transgressions, real or imagined, of our hated White-ancestors.

      When people no longer accept the common rules in their mutual intercourse, when White-people are no longer allowed to move peacefully through the streets of life,when all Whites are “racists,”… then civilization ceases to exist.

      The destruction of order and civilization, as a means of dealing with irrational Liberalguilt, is the end product of Liberalism itself. Ironically, that is the only significant accomplishment of Liberalism…

      http://elliotlakenews.wordpress.com/2012/04/03/say-no-to-liberal-white-guilt/

      http://www.amren.com/news/2012/04/white-guy-wanders-into-black-neighborhood-gets-beaten-and-stripped-by-black-mob/

      • Dave

        LOL… I did not put anywhere in my above post… But the racist keystone cops of the conservative side sure did.

        Where did you pull the rest of your horse manure about liberals from? Which conservative rag that of course you plagiarize?

        • WTS/JAY

          Do you even know the definition of “plagiarize”, Dufus? I did provide the “link” from where the article originated.

          • Dave

            I apologize, this site it jacked from time to time and I could not see the link to the right wing hack site you pulled that load a BS from.

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        LISTEN !!! LISTEN !!! LISTEN !!!

        Who is interested in the Zimmerman chaos?
        Dollar. IRS. NSA.

        Investigator: Many Nationally Syndicated Radio Hosts Warned Not To Talk Obama Background

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=giuiuOJFQbc

        • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

          Spread this around. The Cyber warriors been drown out to attack this information.

          Share this Article with ALL on your e-mail List, Facebook

          Article: “Who is Barack Hussein Obama, or is it Barry Soetoro?”
          http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/8857

    • vicki

      Hey Dave. Did you know that in the 513 days between Travon dying and the Zimmerman trial verdict more than 300 MILLION Americans didn’t shoot and kill anyone?

      Stop blaming the innocent for the acts of a very few.
      Stop punishing the innocent for the acts of a very very few.

      Stop it.
      Stop it NOW.

      • http://cowboybyte.com/ Alondra

        The Criminal complaint filed with Pam Bondi, Attorney General of FL for violation of 14th amendment civil rights of George Zimmerman and inciting riots and violence by AG Eric Holder, CRS department of Department of Justice, Barack Obama and Angela Corey, as well as complaint for fraud committed by NBC and ABC

      • emsaravia

        yes, mommy..

      • smilee

        What a stupid way to convey this message why not give the number shot and killed or murdered which wold be much more informative. Being found guilty does not make one innocent and it seems no one witnessed the whole event so I guess we will have to believe GZ as only he really knows for sure and no one would expect to say as he was facing a very long prison term. The verdict given the law as it is written is understandable as reasonable doubt can be found, The problem is not the jury it is the law that allows this, it needs to be tightened up so vigilant types are held responsible and in this case the law has a loop hole and GZ used it.

      • Dave

        I know it’s difficult but try to stay on the Zimmerman case and on topic. I know you are always dying to spew your propaganda. But try and stay with us .

  • WTS/JAY

    FLORIDA STATE ATTORNEY STAFFER FIRED OVER TESTIMONY THAT PROSECUTORS WITHHELD EVIDENCE FROM GEORGE ZIMMERMAN’S DEFENSE TEAM…

    This horrible case is exposing all of the corruption and conspiracy at the state, federal and local level, is it not? On the federal level, we now know that Obama’s Department of Justice organized race riots in concert with Al Sharpton. On a local level, Trayvon Martin’s involvement in burglaries and other criminal activity was covered up by the media, school, police.

    And now this. Ben Kruidbos, an employee of the Florida state attorney’s office, testified before Zimmerman’s trial began five weeks ago that Martin’s cellphone contained images of the teen blowing smoke of marijuana and deleted text messages concerning a firearm, and that those images had not been given to the defense. For that he was fired.

    It is astonishing that Zimmerman was acquitted, considering the immense forces of the Obama administration and the institutional left working furiously to convict him. The decked was so stacked that it was nothing short of a miracle…

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/07/florida-state-attorney-staffer-fired-over-testimony-that-prosecutors-withheld-evidence-from-george-z.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

  • WTS/JAY

    APPOINT A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR TO INVESTIGATE THE SPECIAL PROSECUTION OF GEORGE ZIMMERMAN…

    This is outrageous. A lynch mob sanctioned by the President of the United States. A lynch mob stoked by the Department of Justice.

    I am not a Dershowitz fan, but he nailed this one.

    “Alan Dershowitz vs. Angela Corey over misleading Affidavit of Probable Cause” Legal Insurrection, July 14, 2013

    There should be a special prosecutor appointed to investigate this special prosecution.

    In early April 2012, Special Prosecutor Angela Corey decided not to take the George Zimmerman case to a Grand Jury, opting for the filing of a Criminal Information which then was presented along with an Affidavit of Probable Cause. The Court found probable cause for the charges.

    It turned out, once pre-trial discovery was exchanged, that the affidavit upon which probable cause was found had not disclosed a lot of significant exculpatory details. There was no mention of the significant injuries to Zimmerman, or of John Good’s eyewitness account that Martin was on top of Zimmerman hitting him Mixed Martial Arts style. All the Affidavit said on the subject of the physical confrontation was that there was “a struggle.”

    The Affidavit identified the voice screaming for help as that of Martin based on an interview with his mother, but did not reveal what we now know, that Martin’s father initially denied it was his son.

    The Affidavit also was inaccurate, such as alleging that the 911 operator “instructed Zimmerman not” to follow Martin — a false fact which lives on in the media mythology of the case.

    Alan Dershowitz was livid.

    From the post, If Angela Corey threatened suit against Dershowitz and Harvard, she needs to step down from Zimmerman case, June 7,2012, Dershowitz was prophetic:

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/07/appoint-a-special-prosecutor-to-investigate-the-special-prosecution-of-george-zimmerman.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

  • Jo

    Wow! Virtual bloodshed here! I can see a bunch of you would be shooting each other if you were in physical space instead of the internet. Get a grip, folks. It does not matter what you type here. It won’t change anything except raise your blood pressure. I thought the guy was funny.

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