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Global Elitism: The Character Traits Of Truly Evil People

February 19, 2013 by  

Global Elitism: The Character Traits Of Truly Evil People
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The first dangerous mistake the average person makes is the assumption that “evil” is a kind of subjective concept. We would love to believe that all destructive and malicious behavior is merely a product of bad environment, bad upbringing or mental psychosis. Deviance in the name of “profit” or “status” is often more acceptable to the public, as long as there is a reason we can easily understand and grasp.

What frightens the average American today is not the abhorrent action of criminality; rather, it is criminality without rationality. What frightens the common citizen is the possibility that some people hurt others not because their mommy and daddy “mistreated” them or because they have a psychological deficiency, but because they fully and consciously enjoy doing what they do.

Our society is desperate to make excuses for the monsters of our era, perhaps because we would rather not entertain the possibility that there is a dark side to humanity that, if allowed, could take control in a deliberate and calculated way.

This is why the greatest crimes of our time often go ignored by the public. The idea, for instance, that international financiers and political elites would purposely create economic disparity, social chaos and global war out of a desire for centralized power and a disturbed sense of superiority is simply too much for many to handle. Surely, these terrible events throughout our modern history are merely the result of random coincidence and human error, right?

Unfortunately, this is not the case. In fact, most catastrophic cultural policies and tragedies can be traced back directly to a subset of people who use their positions of influence for ill purpose and who knowingly engineer calamity not just for personal gain, but also for the gain of their social class.

In the liberty movement, we often refer to members of this group as “globalists” or “elitists.” They permeate the upper echelons of our Nation, and they do indeed have a culture that is entirely separate and disparate from our own. If one studies their literature, initiatives and motives, he would discover another world, driven by outlandish goals and an even more outlandish brand of religious fervor. Here are some of the character traits and beliefs that make these people easy to identify.

Xenofascism 

Global elitists tend to see themselves as a separate breed of human being, a superior class with superior faculties, born to rule over the rest of us. In their writings they often espouse the teachings of The Republic by Plato and the concept of the philosopher kings. They believe that some men and women are endowed with a genetic predisposition to leadership and that the average person does not have the intelligence to determine his own destiny. They see the rest of humanity as a blank canvas and themselves as the artists. We are to be molded, and our social dichotomies are to be manipulated.

In reality, they are no smarter than the rest of us. Rather, they inherit positions of wealth and influence, and they automatically assume this makes them superior. Their ability to mold society is derived entirely from their extensive capital and their complete lack of morality. If they were not in the top .1 percent of the world’s rich, they would be treated like common criminals for their behavior. But sadly, in our day and age, money often buys undue respect. Imagine a group of John Wayne Gacys or Charles Mansons, except with 80 percent of the world’s wealth at their disposal and the means to purchase good publicity and legal immunity. That is essentially what we are dealing with.

Zero Conscience

Elitists believe that conscience is a hindrance to success, instead of a worthwhile virtue. They knowingly and deliberately abandon their moral compass because they see it as an unnatural restriction, an obstacle that makes getting what they want more difficult.  Conscience, however, never quite disappears in anyone. In order to reconcile their wretched mindset with that distant nagging sensation of guilt, they claim that their actions are “for the greater good of the greater number.” They desperately want to believe that they are serving the future of mankind and that we should appreciate their guiding hand, even though the things they do seem far more hateful than helpful. They would call this “tough love.”

They further attempt to avoid the fact of their own dysfunction by trying to elicit criminality in others. If they can convince the masses that morality is relative and that right and wrong are subject to interpretation, if they can convince us to ignore our own inner voices which are inborn, then their monstrosity could be considered normal — even preferable. In a world of moral relativists, the man with a conscience becomes the criminal, the outcast; and the elites become the heroes they always wanted to believe themselves to be.

Promote Collectivism

Top globalists are not necessarily collectivists themselves. In fact, they often swing far to the other end of the spectrum into an aberrant form of individualism. As discussed above, they even see conscience as a restriction on their personal freedom and rebel against it as if rebelling against enslavement. What they do not grasp is that the inherent nature of conscience is a gift, one which has, so far, kept humanity away from the brink of total self-destruction, at least to this point. It is not a prison. Rather, it is protection from ourselves.

The elitist’s insane ideal of pure individualism without self-discipline is a private matter they rarely discuss. In public, they constantly promote the collectivist lifestyle and admonish individualism in common people. If people can be convinced that they are devoid of inherent qualities and characteristics and that their environment is the totality of their existence, then they will hand over all power to anyone who promises them the best possible surroundings. That is to say, when we have no faith in our own individualism and self-responsibility, we will automatically seek protection, usually from a nanny government or dictatorship.

People often confuse “collectivism” with “community.” This is caused by a lack of understanding as well as a lack of experience. Community is a voluntary gathering of individuals for the purpose of mutual aid. Collectivism is the gathering of people by threat of force or loss, for the purpose of consolidating power into the hands of a few. It is the act of destroying individualism in the name of protecting the group. In America today, we have disappearing sense of community, while the “advantages” of collectivism are being sung to the rooftops by global elites.

The Noble Lie

Elitists are very adamant about the idea of the noble lie, the use of a lie to attain a positive goal. In their view, average citizens lack the capacity to understand the bigger political and social picture; so we must be lied to in order to make us do what is best for ourselves. Of course, their version of what is best for our culture always seems to include first and foremost what is best for them.

The noble lie is a logical fallacy of epic proportions, and I often wonder if global elitists secretly doubt its legitimacy. If you need to lie to people in order to get them to accept your ideas, then there must be something terribly wrong with your ideas. Ideas with vitality and honesty do not need to be “sold” to the public through chicanery; the truth takes on a life of its own. Only destructive philosophies need a foundation of lies in order to take root.

Population Reduction

One of the centerpieces of the globalist religion is the concept of population reduction. They not only see themselves as a separate species with superior genetic makeup and a propensity for rulership, they also see the rest of us as cockroaches and “useless eaters,” a herd that needs to be culled. The funny thing about population reductionists is that they always want other people to die in order to save the planet. They never offer their own life as a sacrifice for the greater good. This is because they assume they are too important (ostensibly because they think they are intelligent), while many of us are expendable.

Of course, overpopulation today is an oversold myth that has been disproven in many scientific circles. Population expansion is also not necessarily a bad thing. Greater population means more minds working on more problems. It drives technological advancement and forces us through the survival imperative to invent more efficient methods of production. There are advantages to growth.

In the end, though, global elites do not care about the Earth. They do not believe in population reduction because they want to reduce pollution or the so-called “carbon footprint,” save the poor animals, or even protect finite resources. They want population reduction because first, they are eugenicists who see some people as genetically inferior to others, and second, because a culled population is easier to dominate. Again, fewer minds working means fewer problems solved and fewer individuals to rock the boat when the state abuses its power.

The Source Of Our Pain

Globalists are not the only source of our social pain. We bear some responsibility. When we are not vigilant, when we deny our own ignorance and refuse to learn, when we lie to ourselves and when we cater to personal superficial desires rather than taking the future into account, we open the door for the devil. Evil, like conscience, resides in us all.

That said, global elites are not just randomly terrible people. They have constructed an entire culture of deviance. They are organized evil, and this is a problem we must deal with soon. Good men are defined not only by their adherence to the inner voice of truth, but also by their willingness to act when the truth is threatened. We must educate others and, when the time comes, put ourselves in harm’s way to remove the globalist ilk before they destroy everything in a raging elitist fervor.

–Brandon Smith

Brandon Smith

is the founder of the Alternative Market Project, an organization designed to help you find like-minded activists and preppers in your local area so that you can network and construct communities for barter and mutual aid. Join Alt-Market.com today and learn what it means to step away from the unstable mainstream system and build something better. You can contact Brandon Smith at: brandon@alt-market.com

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  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    Brandon Smith,

    SIR, I STRONGLY OBJECT TO YOUR MENTIONING OF, John Wayne Gacy.

    IN YOUR ARTICLE, YOU ARE ASSOCIATING Mr. Gacy WITH “Truly Evil People” BECAUSE OF HIS SEXUAL TASTES – AND NOT, BECAUSE HE WAS A SERIAL KILLER. Mr. Smith, YOU COULD HAVE PICKED OTHER SERIAL KILLERS WHO ARE HETEROSEXUAL. BUT, LIKE MANY CONSERVATIVES, YOU WANT TO LABEL BOY/MAN LOVERS AS EVIL. YET, THE COURT SAYS – “Curley-vs-NAMBLA” [2008] – BOY/MAN LOVERS HAVE First-Amendment Rights. IF SOMEONE HAD SHOWED LOVE TO Mr. Gacy AFTER SUFFERING PHYSICAL- AND SEXUAL-ABUSE AS A CHILD, HE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DRIVEN TO KILL.

    Mr. Smith, MY POINT IS, YOUR USE OF Charles Manson IS FINE BECAUSE HE HAS A LOT OF FANS. PRACTICALLY-SPEAKING, Mr. Manson IS ONLY “truly evil” ON PAPER. BUT, HOMOSEXUAL KILLERS – LIKE, Mr. Gacy – ARE NOT GIVEN THE SAME COURTESY BECAUSE RELIGIOUS FANATICS CONSIDER BOY/MAN LOVE TO BE MORE EVIL THAN, MURDER.

    • RevNowWhileWeCan

      Christopher,
      Your assumption that Smith’s article mention of Gacy is solely based on “his sexual tastes” is misplaced. He doesn’t mention it nor is it implied and any sexual interpretation is of your own doing not Smith’s. I am under the assumption that Gacy and Manson are mentioned because of being psychopathic killers in comparison to being psychopathic globalists, both of which, when taken in context and not individually as you have done, have nothing to do with “sexual tastes” or conservatism for that matter. It’s my observation that you would better understand the point of the comparison by reading it as it reads instead of an “in between the lines” interpretation of sexual/political references that just aren’t there.

      If you’re going to hammer a writer, (I agree that it should be done from time to time), at least do it for the context for which he is speaking, not a fictional one.

      BTW Brandon, great summation of the globalist’s state of being that truly has infected this world in the most grotesque ways imaginable.

      Revolve Now…………..

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “RevNowWhileWeCan,”

        MY POINT IS TO MAKE A DISTINCTION IN HOW Brandon Smith IS DEFINING “Truly Evil,” FOR HIS READERS.

        Mr. Smith KNOWS THE MAJORITY OF HIS READERS ARE CAUCASIANS WHO WERE BORN BEFORE CIRCA 1950. THE LATE 1960s/EARLY 1970s WAS AN AGE OF PSYCHODELIC DRUGS AND WILD SEX. MANY OF Mr. Smith’s READERS “CAME OF AGE” DURING THAT TIME. SO, Charles Manson, IS A CULTURAL ICON; FROM A PSYCHOLOGICAL STANDPOINT, HIS CONTEMPORARY SOCIETY DID NOT VIEW HIM AS, “Truly Evil.” [Remember, the video footage of Mr. Manson's chicks (Susan Atkins, Patricia Krenwinkel and Leslie Van Houten) looking like the "Mary Jane Girls," bee-bopping down the courthouse corridor. And, people are STILL writing fan/love letters to Mr. Manson in prison].

        Mr. Smith ALSO KNOWS THESE SAME READERS WHO “PARTIED” DURING THE LATE 1960s/EARLY 1970s, HAVE NOW, “FOUND, god.” Mr. Smith KNEW HIS READERS WOULD IMMEDIATELY THINK “child molester” WHEN THEY SAW THE NAME, “John Wayne Gacy.”

        SO, “RevNowWhileWeCan,” IT IS THE FACT THAT A MIDDLE-AGED MAN [Mr. Gacy] HAD SEXUAL CONTACT WITH TEENAGE BOYS, WHICH MAKES HIM “truly evil” IN THE EYES OF Bible Thumpers; THE MURDERS WERE SECONDARY. PEOPLE ARE SUPPOSED TO CALL Mr. Manson “truly evil,” BUT, HE MURDERED NO ONE.

        SO, I REPLIED TO Mr. Smith’s DEFINITION OF, “Truly Evil.”

      • S.C.Murf

        CAH when you write those letters to charlie do you have a special nickname for him or do you just call him sir?

        up the hill
        airborne

      • Brandon Smith

        @Horton

        Ah yes, Horton with more misdirection and absurdity. He’s still learning the disinfo-troll racket I think, so we have to give him a little slack for the silliness of his efforts.

        I never said John Wayne Gacy is evil because he had homosexual tendencies. I do think he’s evil because he raped and murdered little boys. If he had raped and murdered little girls instead, would that make you happier about the comparison, Horton?

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        Brandon Smith,

        Theodore Robert Bundy MURDERED SEVERAL FEMALES FOR HIS SEXUAL PLEASURE; BUT, HE WOULD BE CALLED A CRAZED “HORNDOG” – NOT, EVIL. Charles Manson IS A CRAZED RACIST – BUT, NOT EVIL.

        PEOPLE WHO HAVE “POLITICALLY-INCORRECT” CONTACT WITH CHILDREN ARE CALLED, “Truly Evil.” THAT IS WHY WE HAVE “Amber Alerts” AND “Megan’s Law.” AND, Mr. Smith, THAT IS WHY Y-O-U “CALLED-OUT,” John Wayne Gacy.

        Mr. Smith, YOUR ARTICLE IS ABOUT THE POWER WIELDED BY “TRULY EVIL” MONEY-HANDLERS. THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO NEED TO MENTION, Mr. Gacy.

        CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      • Brandon Smith

        @Horton

        So, just to be clear, in your opinion, Charles Manson and Ted Bundy’s actions were not evil?

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        Brandon Smith,

        NO!

        Mr. Gacy AND Mr. Bundy ARE NOT EVIL. HOMICIDES ARE REPORTED ON THE EVENING NEWS EVERYDAY. MY MATERNAL GRANDFATHER TOLD MY MOTHER, “Everybody has the ability to kill if they are mad enough … including you.” Mr. Smith, WE ALL HAVE PASSIONS WHICH CAN GET OUT-OF-CONTROL. ANGER IS THE “FLIP-SIDE” OF ALL OTHER EMOTIONS.

        CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      • Kate8

        CHRISTOPHER – Out of control passions is what happens when we live in the ego mind alone, absent our SPIRIT (also known as “the restrainer”). When we deny our greater SELF, our spirit, we have no internal moral compass, no conscience, and seek only carnal gratification as giving life any meaning at all. It is also the path do destruction.

        The person who is Self-aware, centered in spirit, gains mastery over passions and behavior, and as such is freed from the bondage of unrestrained desire. He is able to direct his energies into appreciation and honoring of all of life in all of its forms, and also is able to create in magnificent ways to the benefit and blessing of all life.

        Complete submission to the ego is, in fact, the true Mark of the Beast, the Soul-less One.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        MA’AM, OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE NEVER MET OR SOCIALIZED WITH NEGRO PREACHERS. NEGRO PREACHERS BEAT THEIR WIVES AND/OR GIRLFRIENDS, CHEAT ON THEIR WIVES AND/OR GIRLFRIENDS AND SOME, HAVE KILLED THEIR WIVES AND/OR GIRLFRIENDS. IN THE NEGRO COMMUNITY, MALES BECOME PREACHERS AFTER BECOMING AFRAID OF BEING DAMNED FOR THEIR “hellish” WAYS. BUT, THEY WILL ALWAYS BE black men, WHO WILL VIOLENTLY – IF NECESSARY – KEEP THEIR women IN-CHECK.

        SO, “Kate8″ MA’AM, THE god-angle DOES NOT WORK WHEN YOU ARE “PISSED.”

      • Kate8

        Christopher – It is you who equate God/spirit with religion. I do not.

        What has any of those things you just said about negro preachers got to do with what I said?

        NOTHING.

        Who we are has absolutely nothing to do with what anyone else in Creation does. We are responsible only for ourselves and our own state of being. Allowing the actions of others to determine your own inner awareness is a sign of a very immature and insecure person.

        I have stated numerous times that I see religion as corrupt and as having nothing at all to do with one’s spiritual nature.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        MA’AM, NOW, YOU ARE EVADING!

        AFTER I TOLD Mr. Smith ABOUT UNCONTROLLABLE PASSIONS, YOU “CHIMED-IN.” Y-O-U TOLD ME THE EGO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR UNCONTROLLED PASSIONS. THEN, YOU “WENT ON” BY TYPING THE “spirit,” IS THE REMEDY. THAT IS WHY I MENTIONED NEGRO PREACHERS. NEGRO PREACHERS WILL PROFANELY “GO-OFF” ON YOU IF YOU SAY THEY LACK, “spiritual being.” BUT, THESE SAME NEGRO PREACHERS HAVE NO PROBLEM LETTING FEMALES KNOW THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES FOR THEIR MISBEHAVIOR.

        SO, “Kate8,” GOING BACK TO MY REPLY TO Mr. Smith – PASSION, ANGER AND MURDER ARE OFTEN CURIOUSLY “INTERTWINED.”

      • Kate8

        You have so much to learn, Christopher.

        Again, what any preacher does, negro or otherwise, has nothing to do with anything I said.

    • eddie47d

      There always seems to be the Napoleons trying to conquer the world or oil Barrons manipulating counties for personal profit. Speculators on Wall Street are eager to pull in millions regardless of the financial consequences to a country. Malicious and destructive behavior indeed.

      • S.C.Murf

        They are Evil fast eddie Evil. They are listening to a higher power

    • Right Brain Thinker

      Aaaah, CAH. We are definitely NOT “sharp as a tack” this A.M. You talk about the First Amendment rights of boy/man lovers? One could enumerate the “rights”, constitutional and otherwise that are being violated on the “boy” side of that equation, but I’m not up to arguing with a drunk today.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Right Brain Thinker,”

        THOSE RIGHTS ARE ONLY IN THE MINDS OF RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVES WHO HAVE BEEN “HOOD-WINKED” BY THOSE BOYS – WHO, AS YOUNG ADULTS, FEEL SHAME. THOSE BOYS – ALSO, INCLUDING THE “Catholic scandal boys” – ACTED ON THEIR OWN FREE WILL.

      • Brandon Smith

        And Horton showcases his lack of moral compass once again (or the theater of such). First, he supports and defends the institution of slavery as long as it is government sanctioned, then, he claims young boys raped by clergy were actually consenting, thus, apparently, making the rape acceptable to him.

        Folks, Horton is not a real person. He is a troll playing a part, and his part is to is to make insane assertions in order to draw people into random arguments over subjects that have nothing to do with anything.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        Brandon Smith,

        I ASSUMED YOU KNEW FROM MY PAST COMMENTARY THAT I STARTED HAVING SEX WHEN I WAS SEVEN. SO, I HAVE DEALT WITH MALES LIKE, Mr. Gacy AND THE CATHOLIC PRIESTS. I UNDERSTAND LONELINESS AND AGING.

        Mr. Smith, I KNOW Personal Liberty Digest IS A CONSERVATIVE SITE WHICH IS USED BY ELDERLY COMMENTERS WITH “Victorian-Style” VALUES. A REASON WHY I VOTED FOR Governor Gary Johnson IS BECAUSE I HAVE EXTREMELY LIBERAL VIEWS ON SEX AND NUDITY. IN OUR CONTEMPORARY WORLD, A PERSON IS A CRIMINAL ONLY IF ANOTHER PERSON DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHY HE/SHE COMMITTED THE ALLEGED CRIME. I UNDERSTAND THE “John Wayne Gacys, Jeffrey Dahmers AND Adam Lanzas” OF THE WORLD; I LIVE THEIR LIVES! I KNOW ABOUT THE ISOLATION AND RIDICULE!

        YOU ARE CALLING ME A “SHOCK-JOCK,” BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND PEOPLE LIKE, ME. I AM FAR FROM BEING A, “sociopath.” YOU SHOULD LEARN MORE ABOUT SOCIAL RIDICULE BEFORE YOU J-U-D-G-E!!!!!

        CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    • Johnny D

      Your defense of Gacy is unwarranted. He was evil because he was a murderer. His sexual preference is not paramount in his evil deeds but of real importance only to his victims.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        Don’t leave out his cannibalism.

    • Douglas

      YOUR Objection is of conjecture. I would speculate your comment is more about justifying your own perversion. Court decisions are not declarations of moral correctness. Being ‘legal’ doesn’t make it ‘RIGHT’ or ‘JUST’, which many here have made note of multiple occasions of bad legal decisions. I’m disgusted you, or anybody, would take a stance to claim such a vile act is ‘justified’ just because it has been deemed ‘legal’.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        OKAY, “Douglas,” WHY DIDN’T Mr. Smith MENTION “Green River Killer,” OR, “Zodiac?” – HE DID NOT MENTION T-H-E-M BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN LABELED, “a pedophile.”

        “Douglas,” WHEN I READ THIS ARTICLE, “John Wayne Gacy,” STOOD-OUT LIKE A FLASHING-RED LIGHT BECAUSE OF MY LIFE EXPERIENCES. OTHER Personal Libertarians MAY NOT BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE REAL REASON WHY Mr. Smith MENTIONED Mr. Gacy.

      • Brandon Smith

        @Horton

        No one cares about your “life experiences”. Do you have any tangible criticisms of the article, or are you relying only on that one strawman attack?

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        Brandon Smith,

        YOUR COMMENT SUGGESTS YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE READ NEWS ARTICLES. YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS SITE, OR, NEWSPAPER EDITORIALS ACROSS THE COUNTRY; YOU WILL FIND READERS WHO COMMMENT – AT LENGTH – ON ONE WORD OR PHRASE WRITTEN BY THE AUTHOR.

        Mr. Smith, I GUARANTEE, YOU COULD SURVEY THE OTHER COMMENTERS IN THIS THREAD AND YOU COULD NOT FIND TWO PEOPLE WHO WOULD AGREE ON THE MEANING OF WHAT YOU WROTE.

        CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    • rendarsmith

      “RELIGIOUS FANATICS CONSIDER BOY/MAN LOVE TO BE MORE EVIL THAN, MURDER”

      CAH, can you prove this? I’ve yet to meet a single person that believes gay relations is worse than murder.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        I think Man Boy love is equivalent to murder and should be punished the same way. Don’t you think that pedophiles are one of the most evil types of people in existence? If not, I am truly sorry for your soul and will pray for you.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        rendarsmith , rationalizing predacious behaviours is also evil.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “rendarsmith,”

        I WAS NOT REFERRING TO “gay relations” IN REFERENCE TO CONSENTING ADULTS. RELIGIOUS CONSERVATIVES REFUSE TO REALIZE SOME ADOLESCENTS ARE HOMOSEXUAL AND PRACTICE THEIR SEXUALITY WITH A FREEDOM WHICH IGNORES AGE-BARRIERS. THAT IS WHY CONSERVATIVES BELIEVE THESE ADOLESCENTS WERE FORCED TO DO SOMETHING AGAINST THEIR WILL.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Capitalist at Birth” PROVES MY POINT. HE IS THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO CONSIDERS BOY/MAN LOVERS LIKE, Mr. Gacy, TO BE “truly evil.”

        IF Y’ALL NOTICE, SO FAR, NO ONE HAS MENTIONED Mr. Manson – “CASE CLOSED!”

      • Jana

        Christopher Allen Horton,
        Remember, you are the one who brought up the subject. Are you trying to justify your own life?
        Personally I don’t care. I don’t approve of your lifestyle, but that is not up to me. Just don’t ask me to approve or accept your lifestyle.
        If you keep bringing up the issues you are asking to get your feelings hurt.
        If you don’t then we can move on.

      • Jana

        C A H,
        By the way I am not asking you to approve of my lifestyle as a born again Christian either. So think about it before you bring it up again.

      • Kate8

        Well said, Jana.

        I don’t care what anyone does in their own lives, as long as they don’t infringe on anyone else. Nor do I want to have to hear about it all the time.

        Please, Christopher. TMI. I don’t want to hear about your sex life nor anyone else’s.

        And stay away from the children

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,” MA’AM – I HAVE NEVER HARMED A CHILD. BUT, I WILL DEFEND Mr. Gacy WHEN SOMEONE LIKE, Mr. Smith, WANTS TO LABEL HIM AS EVIL.

      • Jana

        Christoper A H,
        You said”“Kate8,” MA’AM – I HAVE NEVER HARMED A CHILD. BUT, I WILL DEFEND Mr. Gacy WHEN SOMEONE LIKE, Mr. Smith, WANTS TO LABEL HIM AS EVIL.__________

        Excuse me????
        Gacy was evil. He murdered how many young boys? He ate part of them, and he raped them. And you will defend him???
        You certainly aren’t speaking very highly of yourself.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        OKAY, “Jana.”

        IF Brandon Smith WANTED TO WRITE AN ARTICLE ON WHY THE GLOBAL “MOVERS AND SHAKERS” ARE EVIL, HE DID NOT HAVE TO UTILIZE Mr. Gacy AND Mr. Manson AS “SYNONYMS” FOR EVIL. I OBJECTED, AS A HOMOSEXUAL. THOSE MURDERS COMMITTED BY Mr. Gacy WERE IRRELEVANT TO Mr. Smith. HE FOCUSED ON THE “pedophile angle” IN AN ARTICLE WHICH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH “pedophilia.” BUT, Mr. Smith FELT A NEED TO “DUMB-DOWN” HIS READERS BY GIVING EXAMPLES THEY COULD UNDERSTAND. [Most people on this site know nothing of The Bilderbergs, or, Queen Beatrix].

      • Jana

        Christopher,
        Is that what you have gotten so bent all out of shape over? One little statement that he made about Gacy where he also mentioned Manson? WOW!!!
        _________________
        He stated” imagine a group of John Wayne Gacys or Charles Mansons, except with 80 percent of the world’s wealth at their disposal and the means to purchase good publicity and legal immunity”_______________________
        Good grief.
        You have totally made a mountain out of a molehill and made yourself to look like a pedophile to boot. He never even mentioned the word pedophile YOU DID!

        ENOUGH ALREADY!

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Jana,”

        I THINK YOU HAVE BEEN TAKING LESSONS ON HOW TO DEBATE ME FROM, “Kate8.” JUST LIKE THE “GUN IN SCHOOLS” THREAD ON 28 DECEMBER 2012, I SAY TO YOU, “Jana,” FAIR ENOUGH.

      • Kate8

        CHRISTOPHER – It’s all about taking responsibility for your own perceptions, beliefs, impressions, emotions and behaviors. What you are doing is projecting your own thoughts onto Mr. Smith, and holding him responsible for them.

        It is clear that you have many defenses and triggers arising out of your own pain and belief. It is these things to which you are reacting, not the views of others, which are serving only to mirror these things back to you.

        Your responses only show what is going on inside of YOU, Christopher. It has zero to do with Mr. Smith or any of the rest of us.

        It’s YOU. A wise man uses opportunities such as these triggers to learn important things about himself.

      • Charlie

        Horton,,,
        Honk on but your honking is getting way out,,,like,,Far Out of tune with The Almighty God’s Law Book… YOU are a sinner and just as evil as those spoken of ……………….

    • George Michael Steffens

      Boy/man lovers have first amendment rights? You have got to be kidding. The judge that made that ruling was obviously smoking Obama’s hopium. The Bible, which is the word of God, you know God, don’t you? The One who created you in His image. The Bible clearly states that homosexuality and pedophilia are degenerate, immoral behaviors and purely unnatural, evil and wicked. That misguided behavior does nothing to advance the human condition that God had originally intended. Examine your heart, Christopher and see the evil and damage that what you seem to support really does. I will pray for you to stop being one of the sheep that has been led astray.

      • nc

        George Michael. you walk up to a person you believe to be gay and tell him God made him (as you believe he did ALL men) in his own image. Ask him why he is gay and he says “I don’t know! I have always felt that way since I begin to have sexual thoughts.’
        Do you know the mind of your God(?) to the certainty that God did not make him that way or by a quirk of nature he was born with a mind that was wired that way?? There have been a lot of humans born with different personalities! Some with little or no personality at all due to birth defects>

        Can you make that call without committing the sin of being judgmental?

      • Kinetic1

        George Michael Steffens,
        While you certainly have the right to criticize a judge’s ruling, attempting to support your view based solely on the Bible is rather pointless. Whether or not I agree with your view, and despite the fact that Mr. Horton has misrepresented the case of Curley-vs-NAMBLA (the Curley’s dropped their suit before a decision was rendered by the court) the laws of the U.S. are not subject to the rule of Christianity. NAMBLA, no matter how distorted and objectionable to you and I they may be, have the same right to express their views as the KKK, the Westboro Baptist Church or the Catholic coalition.

        Unlike nations like Iran, we are free to speak and conduct our lives without consulting any religious leader. Though many of our laws are in keeping with those of Christianity, they are, in general moral laws accepted by most people, religious or not. Sex between an adult and a child is considered abhorrent by the majority of people in America, not just because of the tenants of any religion, but because of our belief in the purity of innocents.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “George Michael Steffens,”

        I WAS REFERRING TO THE MASSACHUSETTS COURT-CASE, “Curley-vs-NAMBLA” (2008). THE PROSECUTION ALLEGED Charlie Jaynes – WHO WAS CONVINCTED OF KILLING A TEN-YEAR OLD (Jeffrey Curley) – HAD NAMBLA LITERATURE IN HIS HOME; AND, THE EXISTENCE OF THIS LITERATURE CAUSED Mr. Jaynes TO KILL, Jeffrey. [I think Mr. Jaynes is innocent]. American Civil Liberties Union – WHO REPRESENTED NAMBLA – WAS ABLE TO GET THE CASE DISMISSED BECAUSE NAMBLA’s First Amendment Right PROTECTS IT FROM THOSE WHO COMMIT CRIMES AND HAVE NAMBLA MATERIAL IN THEIR POSSESSION.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “nc” – GREAT COMMENTS.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kinetic1,”

        YOU MISUNDERSTOOD THE CASE.

        YES – The Curley’s DROPPED THEIR $200 MILLION WRONGFUL-DEATH LAWSUIT AGAINST NAMBLA BECAUSE THE JUDGE RULED The Curleys’ ONLY WITNESS WAS MENTALLY-INCOMPETENT FOR TRIAL. BUT, THE CASE’S DISMISSAL LEGALLY ESTABLISHED A PROTECTION FOR NAMBLA UNDER The First Amendment.

      • Jana

        nc,
        nc says”Do you know the mind of your God(?) to the certainty that God did not make him that way or by a quirk of nature he was born with a mind that was wired that way?? There have been a lot of humans born with different personalities! Some with little or no personality at all due to birth defects>__________

        Yes, after having studied the Bible quite extensively for the past 15 to 20 years I can say God did not make him that way by a quirk of nature. It goes back to the First Heaven /Earth Age which is why we are here in the first place.
        It takes time and effort to know and understand the Word of God, but it all makes sense when you study and go back to the original writings to be able to comprehend the full meanings of all of the words.
        To put it much to simply it all goes back to decisions that were made by each individual during the First Heaven / Earth Age.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Jana,”

        YOU CONTRADICTED YOURSELF.

        YOU SAY YOU ARE CHRISTIAN, BUT, YOU CONSTANTLY REFER TO “Earth Age” – A SCIENTOLOGIST’S TERM. I THINK YOU WANT TO JUDGE OTHERS WHOM YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

      • Jana

        Christopher,
        I cannot help that Scientology has stolen something from the Bible. The truth is the truth. It is not up to me to judge anything, but to tell what the WORD says. If you want to believe it fine, if you don’t fine again.

      • Jana

        Christopher,
        Maybe it would be better if I called it First Heaven Age and First World Age. We are now living in the Second World Age and guess what, Heaven is in its Second Heaven Age.
        There will be a Third and final age for both of them.

    • S.C.Murf

      FF so true. The statue for the sun god nimrod is called an obelisk. These are found in our cemeteries, the washington monument, the basilica in rome (pope prays in it’s direction) we even have one here in Sioux City they call it the Sergeant Floyd monument. This should show all of us just exactly how long the evil one (satan) has been here and pulling mans strings. We really have been duped by the elitist’s, they worship satan, sell their souls for power and just like Brandon says have only their intrest’s at heart. The TIME is drawing close people and those of you who cannot see the truth will fall in line with satan and when he is done with you and has no use for you he will cast you aside. his end game is all about sitting on the original throne of David (which is some where in the UK) on the temple mount. The last pope is about to be put in place, all we need now is a male on the throne of England, Jerusalem to be divided (UN getting ready to do this) and the temple to be built ( they already have the drawings and even have the robes ready).

      up the hill
      airborne

    • Vigilant

      CAH says, unbelievably, “BUT, LIKE MANY CONSERVATIVES, YOU WANT TO LABEL BOY/MAN LOVERS AS EVIL. YET, THE COURT SAYS – “Curley-vs-NAMBLA” [2008] – BOY/MAN LOVERS HAVE First-Amendment Rights.”

      You better go back to the drawing board on that one. First Amendment means that they have the right to free speech. By no stretch of the imagination did the court legalize homosexual acts between a minor and an adult. It is still very much against the law, as it should be.

      Then, “IF SOMEONE HAD SHOWED LOVE TO Mr. Gacy AFTER SUFFERING PHYSICAL- AND SEXUAL-ABUSE AS A CHILD, HE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DRIVEN TO KILL.”

      Millions have suffered physical and sexual abuse and don’t go on to murder people as a result. That gratuitous statement of yours is pure speculation. Gacy knew full well what he was doing, was judged competent to face a court trial, was convicted of 33 murders and sentenced to death for 12 of these killings. He was executed in May 1994.

      BTW, if you actually do advocate the solicitation of sex from a minor by an adult, you are a pervert. If you have done it, you are a criminal. That’s not just a Conservative viewpoint, that’s the considered opinion of decent people everywhere.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Just curious but would that be the under twenty one year old minor…….the under
        eighteen year old minor, the under sixteen year old minor, the under fourteen year old minor or the under twelve year old minor?

        Be careful, as a “willfully ignorant, functional illiterate” you might want to give
        this some thought?

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Vigilant,”

        YOU MISUNDERSTOOD MY POINT.

        PEOPLE BELIEVE ADULTS WHO HAVE SEX WITH ADOLESCENTS ALSO HAVE THE MENTALITY TO KILL. SO, The First Amendment, PROTECTS THESE ADULTS – WHO HAVE NEVER KILLED – FROM PROSECUTION. BEING CHARGED WITH A “sex crime,” IS A SEPARATE SITUATION.

        “Vigilant,” SIR, IT IS PEOPLE LIKE, YOU, WHO CONTINUE TO “TURN-A-BLIND-EYE” ON THOSE WHO SUFFERED ABUSE AS, CHILDREN. Mr. Gacy IS SORT OF LIKE, Adam Lanza. ADULTS WHO WERE ABUSED AS CHILDREN CAN ONLY TAKE “SO MANY YEARS” BEFORE THEY SHATTER FROM THE MENTAL STRAIN.

      • Vigilant

        CAH, it’s customary to know your subject before you start spouting off. I speak of the First Amendment.

        First Amendment: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

        You say (or rather, shout, as usual) “PEOPLE BELIEVE ADULTS WHO HAVE SEX WITH ADOLESCENTS ALSO HAVE THE MENTALITY TO KILL. SO, The First Amendment, PROTECTS THESE ADULTS – WHO HAVE NEVER KILLED – FROM PROSECUTION. BEING CHARGED WITH A “sex crime,” IS A SEPARATE SITUATION.”

        The English language is clear: you’ve said the First Amendment protects these adults (who have sex with adolescents) from prosecution. Not my words but yours.

        Now by what stretch of language or logic you find that protection in the First Amendment is a mystery to us all. Unless, of course, you think that sex with minors is either a religion, is covered under freedom of expression, or comes under “the right of the people peaceably to assemble.”

      • Vigilant

        GALT, if the fulfillment of your desires on little boys or girls is dependent upon my answering that question, I’ll give you no help. Check the laws of the state in which you reside to determine if your actions are legal or illegal.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        THANKS, “GALT.”

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Vigilant,”

        YOU ARE CONFUSING THE SEX ACT WITH AN ORGANIZATION [NAMBLA].

        “Vigilant,” I CAN STAND ON A MOUNTAINTOP AND SCREAM TO THE WORLD, “I like having sex with little boys!” LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN NOT T-O-U-C-H ME! – The First Amendment IS MY SHIELD. BUT, IF LAW ENFORCEMENT CATCHES ME HAVING SEX WITH A LITTLE BOY, THEN, I CAN BE CHARGED WITH A CRIME IF THE BOY IS UNDER HIS STATE’S LEGAL AGE OF CONSENT. IF I OWN NAMBLA MERCHANDISE – AND, CHARGED WITH A CRIME – I CAN NOT CLAIM, “NAMBLA made me do it.”

        “Vigilant,” THIS IS HOW The First Amendment COMES INTO PLAY. YOUR OVER-REACTION PROVES THE INITIAL POINT I MADE TO Mr. Smith.

      • Kate8

        CHRISTOPHER – I would call such an action an admission of guilt, not covered by any protection.

        Words matter. Say whatever you want, but be aware that words have consequences.

      • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

        I don’t want to hear about your color or your sexual orientation Mr. Horton. ~ could you spare us that? Please

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Vigilant,”

        I AM REPLYING TO YOU IN THIS THREAD BECAUSE Sam Rolley’s THREAD FOR TODAY’S NEWS [20 FEBRUARY] WOULD NOT LET ME REPLY. BUT, SINCE YOU QUOTED MY SEXUAL TASTES FROM THIS THREAD, RESPONDING TO YOU IN THIS THREAD IS APPROPRIATE – I AM SURE YOU WILL READ IT.

        YOUR LAME COMMENTARY – WITH HOPES OF MAKING ME LOOK FOOLISH – ONLY MADE YOU LOOK INTENSELY RACIST; ESPECIALLY, SINCE YOU KNOW I AM ATTRACTED TO CAUCASIAN MALES. HENCE, “Vigilant,” YOU UNWILLINGLY “SHOWED YOUR HAND” BY INDICATING HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY’S “BIG TENT.” OBVIOUSLY, YOU WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR, Herman Cain [he has been out in the sun too long].

        I HAVE SEEN HOW Caucasian Personal Libertarians REPLY TO THOSE THEY BELIEVE TO BE COLORED. AND, SINCE MY ARRIVAL, YOU HAVE TRIED TO “PLAY THAT” ON ME – BUT, YOU GET NO TRACTION. THAT IS WHAT R-E-A-L-L-Y “PISSES-YOU-OFF.”

      • Vigilant

        “YOUR LAME COMMENTARY – WITH HOPES OF MAKING ME LOOK FOOLISH – ONLY MADE YOU LOOK INTENSELY RACIST…”

        Making you look foolish? I assure you, your own words have done a better job than I could ever hope to do. Your foolishness is obvious to anyone who reads your disjointed, shouted comments, whether I ever posted anything at all or nothing.

        The race card is the last refuge of the scoundrel. Hint: the race card carries no weight any more. It’s been gratuitously used so many times that it is now recognized as the last resort when the force of argument fails in the face of truth and logic.

        “ESPECIALLY, SINCE YOU KNOW I AM ATTRACTED TO CAUCASIAN MALES.”

        Well, that’s news to me! If you’re advertising on this site, you’d better pay a fee to Mr. Livingston.

        “HENCE, “Vigilant,” YOU UNWILLINGLY “SHOWED YOUR HAND” BY INDICATING HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY’S “BIG TENT.”

        English correction: “unwittingly” was the word you were looking for but were too incompetent to settle upon.

        As for “showing my hand,” I do it with every comment I make, and I have no desire to hide my thoughts from anyone. I say what I mean and I mean what I say, no punches pulled and no ulterior motives. Indeed, if you were half way observant, you would have noted from my many postings that I am not a Republican. I am Conservative and a Constitutionalist.

        “OBVIOUSLY, YOU WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR, Herman Cain [he has been out in the sun too long].”

        I would vote for Thomas Sowell, Dr. Benjamin Carson, or any number of people who have “been out in the sun too long” if they are Conservative Constitutionalists. I take MLK’s words to heart regarding the content of a man’s character and not the color of his skin.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Vigilant,”

        OH, NO SIR! – I M-E-A-N-T, “UNWILLINGLY!”

        THERE ARE CAUCASIANS ON THIS SITE WHO ARE TRYING THEIR BEST TO SHOW THEY LIKE, blacks.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Vigilant,”

        RECENTLY, IN ANOTHER THREAD, I MENTIONED CAUCASIANS NEED TO LEAVE Martin Luther King, Jr., ALONE. BELIEVE ME, “Vigilant,” MLK IS NOT, “a poster BOY,” FOR CAUCASIANS’ CAUSE.

      • Kate8

        Good grief, Christopher. You have so many chips on your shoulder it’s a wonder you can walk around.

        I would assume that you continue to tell everyone about your being a “negro” in order to try to provoke an expected response… that would be the white guilt thing where some go to great lengths trying to prove how color blind they are.

        The truth is, we are all aware of color. But it’s only okay for non-whites to vocalize about it. Whites are excoriated for even hinting that they notice.

        It’s all stupid. But things have been set up that way. We’ve all been forced into living amongst each other, but whites have to pretend to love it while OTWs can be as racist as they please. It’s just more of the divide and conquer routine.

        It really bugs me, too, how whites fall all over themselves to go out of their way to praise MLK and other people of color, precisely BECAUSE of their color. Whatever is the truth about MLK, he certainly caused a stir. (Didn’t he father some babies while committing adultery?) Aside from that, there have been many good people who’ve done good things worthy of recognition. Some have been more glorified than others, usually because they are useful in promoting a political agenda.

        If we were all allowed to pursue our lives in the manner that fulfills us the most, these issues wouldn’t be issues. It’s the political PC BS that uses us to create a facade of ‘celebrating diversity’ while engendering resentment and inequality in the hearts and minds of all of us, no matter what we say.

        Just look at Obama. He’s never held accountable for ANYTHING he does, no matter how egregious. If anyone does try to bring up his treason, they’re called racist. Wow. This really goes a long way in resolving racial tension, doesn’t it?

        Of course, the implication is that we have to excuse him because of his race. That we don’t have the right to expect better.

        It seems to me that you are very focused on your race and your sexual preferences. Had you not ever mentioned them, you’d just be another poster. And it only matters to you… and you continually try to make it matter to us. Just what was your reason for disclosing this information? How is it relevant to the issues addressed here?

        Maybe you are just looking for reasons to be offended, in order to feed some perverse sense of self-loathing, and to prove to yourself that people will see you as “different”.

        People respond to you because of your attitude, your mentality, your ideolgies… just like everyone else. That’s the neat thing about forums like this… we can be oursevles without being judged by our appearances.

        Just what is it that you are after here, Chris?

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        MA’AM, MY ATHEISM AND HOMOSEXUALITY ARE THE FOUNDATION OF MY TOTAL BEING. AS I GO THROUGH MY DAILY LIFE, I HAVE TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE WHO GLORIFY THEIR god ["Have a blessed day," etc.] AND THEIR HETEROSEXUALITY ["My husband/my wife/my grandchildren/my mother-in-law, etc.] THESE EXPRESSIONS ARE
        A-B-S-O-L-U-T-E-L-Y S-I-C-K-E-N-I-N-G TO ME!!!!!

        BECAUSE I SUPPORT REPUBLICANS AND LOVE Personal Liberty Digest, I HAVE TO DEAL WITH SENIORS (WHO HAVE GRANDCHILDREN) AND OTHERS WHO BELIEVE “Jesus Christ” IS THE REASON WHY THEY ARE BREATHING. SO, WHERE DOES A PERSON LIKE, ME, FIT IN? I WILL NOT LIE AND TYPE, “I am a Christian who is faithful to my wife and adore my children.”

        HOMOSEXUALS AND ATHEISTS HAVE A PLACE IN ONLINE POLITICAL-DISCUSSION. THE PROBLEM IS, PEOPLE CONSIDER US TO BE LIBERAL – SO, ONLY LIBERAL PEOPLE CREATE WEBSITES FOR US. BUT, IF YOU ARE NOT LIBERAL, THEN WHAT DO YOU DO?

      • Kate8

        Well, Christopher, since you have made very clear your disdain for people voicing their religious views, then you can appreciate how they might feel when reading how you find their views “sickening”. I don’t see too many posters attacking you for being atheist, but you certainly attack those who aren’t.

        I don’t care what you believe, frankly. And I don’t care how you feel about anyone elses beliefs, either. If you feel that you must display what you believe, then, like anyone, prepare for what comes. You are way too attached to having those views accepted, because that just isn’t true for any of us… Least of all me. You have to just roll with it.

        You can state your views without decrying someone else’s. It is so apparent that you are a tragic victim of child abuse, and it’s understandable why you hold many of the distorted ideas that you do. But there are also many good people who have love and compassion, and who can see how you’ve been damaged.

        Perhaps you are crying out for help. But the truth is, the only real help is already inside you. All you have to do is be willing to look without judgment. Healing is there for the taking. For anyone.

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

      C.A.H. what do you think those illuminati elistist do. They are pedophiles, they like little boys and girls, mostly boys. Gacy was one of their victims when he was young. He grew up in a very abusive family that used abuse to control. He parents were witches, they worshipped the devil.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Julie,”

        I DID NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENTARY. Mr. Gacy WAS NOT AN ELITIST; AND, MOST ELITISTS ARE NOT, “pedophiles.”

  • Warrior

    For some wierd reason the first person that comes to mind when reading this article is “plugs”. Maybe because he has to “remind us” he was successful in changing his collar color from “blue” to “white”. Impressive “plugs”, Very Impressive!

  • Bill Bates

    Dear Brandon: I both support and agree with you, 100%, that the banking and corporate elite, are only and totally wanting financial greed and political power to promote their forthcoming one-world government, and seven year evil empire and rule. Thankfully, Christ will be rapturing his real, faithful and true Bible-believing church unto himself very soon, and any day now, before the seven year tribulation period begins, and the Anti-Christ (the Beast) and the False Prophet, as mentioned in Revelation is allowed to reign.

    • Charlie

      Bill,,,
      Check out 1 Thessalonians 4:14–18,,,that’s the so called “Rapture”,,,BUT,,,along with that
      Scripture check out 2 Peter 3:10—14… Peter says the “Reasoning” for the so called “Rapture”…. Meanwhile………………………………….
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      Charlie Freedom

      • robbiefine@hotmail.com

        Charlie: I’m still waiting for your reply so I can learn how 2 or 8 of every creature on earth was able to fit on Noah’s tiny boat. Of course I can wait while you try to make up some kind of explanation.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,,
        You don’t know much about suspended animation,,,you don’t believe in Miracles,,,you don’t understand that King Jesus Christ is The Son of The Almighty God… What do you know about “The Rapture”???…………………………………….

        • R. Fine

          What you are talking about Charlie is mythology. I tend to concentrate on scientific knowledge because it is based on reality and not fairy tales. But if you are a fan of myths you should really read up on Egyptian mythology. Some of those fairy tales are more interesting than the stuff in the Bible. They have this one bit where the creator of the universe actually creates HIMSELF. That’s pretty nifty don’t you think? Creating yourself? Wow. By the way who created god? Oh, the answer to that is in the Bible actually where it says that God was created in our image.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Well,,, not much to talk about,,, every subject matter seems to be in what you call a book of fairy tales… The so called “Rapture” is in The Holy Bible, and the reason for the Rapture is also in The Bible… Even some of your jew nonsense was taken from The Bible.

        • R. Fine

          Are you not embarrassed that you continue to refuse or be unable to answer simple logical questions about the Good Book and especially my points about the flood story? Apparently not as you are happy to go on on your delusional way. Pathetic.

        • R. Fine

          By the way you might want to go easy on your insulting references to Jews since your beloved Jesus was a Jew who honoured what you call “Jew nonsense”. Remember that it was Jesus who clearly stated that he his goal was to promote the law (old Testament) and not change it.

          P.S.: How did 2 & 7 of every species on earth fit on to Noah’s tiny boat? How? And it WAS a world wide flood proven by the Torah quotes I gave you two postings back (which you ignore because you actually don’t know or care what the Bible says.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,,
        What science do you want to talk about ???

        • R. Fine

          Metaphysics will do. How did hundreds of thousands of animals, insects, and birds fit on a tiny boat for over a hundred days with no need for food? Also, where did all that water come from and go? Remember that was a world wide flood that wiped out (according to your Bible) all living creatures on the planet except for those on the tiny boat. The water covered the face of the earth to beyond the height of the tallest mountains. (I’m just telling you what your Bible says. I think it nonsensical and unscientific but you disagree with me so I’m sure you’ll be able to explain it. And, by the way, we can do without insults and name calling in this discussion. I’ve always noticed when someone starts to insult the person he/she is talking with it means they actually can’t come up with anything rational to say.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Ha ha ha ha hab,,,you gotta be kidding ? You don’t Believe The Bible,,,,you know little or nothing about suspended animation AND,,you wanna talk about Metaphysics???
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R. Fine

          I keep asking you what you mean by suspended animation but you fail to explain what it is. Perhaps you don’t even know what it is although you keep talking about it. I guess you are not smart enough to explain it but I bet a lot of readers here are getting curious about it.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Suspended animation can be seen on the net, so can the flood thing…………………………..

        • R. Fine

          As I keep saying I am content to get my description of “the flood thing” (as you call it) from those who wrote it in the Bible. The Bible describes it as a world wide flood that reached deeper than the highest mountains and killed all living creatures except those on Noah’s tiny boat. The real question is why you refuse to accept what is written in the Bible. Supposedly you are a believer and yet to ignore what is written in the Bible. You are in a very funny situation I must say.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine…
        What round is this? about 10 or more,,, you don’t believe The Bible!!! but,,,now,,,you want Me to explain a Bible issue using “”Science”"”terminology,,,so,,, We gave you one,, “Suspended animation”,,then you say it’s so much “hogwash”… So We will use a simpler term “”"Miracle”"”… How many miracles did God and King Jesus perform in The Bible , that you don’t know or believe ??? Meanwhile………………………………………………..
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R. Fine

          How did 2 and 7 of all species fit on that tiny boat? Calling that a miracle does not actually answer the question.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,.
        Figure out how to use that special weapon that King Jesus used at John 8:59,,, then suspended animation will be easy………………………………………….

  • gene1357

    Nice piece, Brandon.

  • rocquedog

    And it these forces that are behind Obama, the illegal alien that has somehow been able to hijack the most powerful position in the world. When you have the likes of the Globalist Soros, the Saudis and other Bilderberger associated elitists, you can rule the world. This is the enemy of America, as well as the Kool Aid drinking Zombies that are supporting the Globalists and don’t even know it. For the rest of us patriots, we need to be ready! The conflagration that is about to be set upon us, will make the French Rev. look like a tea party in comparison!! God Save The Republic!!!

    • cawmun cents

      “Of course you know this means war!” A war between the world,and a few hold out “sons of liberty”,left in “one nation under God.”

      “Hopelessly out-numbered,not a hope in bad-fire of winning,high chance of death,I like the odds!”-CC.

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

        Cawmun, there’s a secret organization that is waiting for the American people to wake up to what’s going on. When we do and start to take our country back, they will be there to help us. They say research the people and families of all the ones that were involved with the federal reserve act of 1913. They say those are the ones you want to go after first, the men in the families not the woman. They also said go after the people that are in the eye of the pyramid on the back of the $. The ones below are followers they are either forced to partake or don’t know what the top is doing.

      • cawmun cents

        I am already a member of a not so secret organization called Christianity.

        When my help arrives…..make no mistake,all hell will have already broken loose.
        Whereas I carry some doubt in any human effort,my firm belief is that God,in His infinite wisdom,has a better chance of success in any world saving endeavor.
        I must say that a secret organization sounds neat and covert,but I am more for changing hearts than for changing minds.
        So I have enlisted in another army.
        One that is a bit more eternal in scope.
        Idealistically I am with you,but realistically,I am with God,and I wear His blood with humility,at what He has done for me.
        Nations come and go,but the Spirit lives on,in the hope of an eternal power that saves.
        God bless,
        -CC.

  • Incitadus

    Excellent they used to be called Kings and Queens throughout history
    they have consigned millions to their deaths.

  • Jean Werner

    Brandon, This is so true and I am doing what I can to educate my friends and relaties but
    as you said most just want to go on with their lives as they are not wanting to look forward,
    hoping it isn’t really true. I will continue to try to educate them. Sometimes when they see
    the light they can be very helpful therefore, I will continue. Who is going to educate our leaders? I know, some of them are the elite and the illunimati. It is very dangerous. We
    must stand up and fight and I am ready but not sure what else to do. I do appreciate your
    work. Please, please keep it up.

  • nc

    Brandon, You list all the things that common people (average citizens) do not see that you see for them> What makes you so much smarter than them? What great revelations have you made to the general public??? A bunch of unproved conspiracies?? Promises of doom that you say requires them to go dig holes in the desert and store beans you can BARTER FOR BULLETS?? What is your batting average in those areas???

    As superior to the average citizen as you see yourself, your problem is actually an inferiority complex to those you call the global elitist! The “rule makers” that you want so much to be a part of with your 18th century views of 21st century problems. As wrong as they were at times, they were the “shakers and doers.” and our part of them made us NUMBER ONE IN THE WORLD’!!
    I’m 77 years old and was born in a four room “mill house” in the middle of the depression in a small southern town that I still live in> As I sit here in my central heat and air and look out the patio doors at the BEAUTIFUL America I can see and served, I find it very hard to have a feeling of despair and doom! Concern for those less fortunate is my major concern. Not fear that my army or any army is coming to my door! Not fear that I will spend a night soon in a FEMA Camp! Not fear that I will not be allowed to vote ‘next time” like I was promised here at your fountain of knowledge(?) before the last elections.

    • Rene

      Troll. Don’t believe the “down home story”. First you said Brandon was an elitist himself because he can spot elitists, then you deny their existence. You are a shill.

      • nc

        Rene, you just committed the sin of many of your brothers here. If you don’t like it, it has to be a lie! What I told of MY life is the truth whether you believe it or not! WHEN I WANT TO TELL YOU A LIE IT WILL A H*LL OF A LOT BIGGER THAN GROWING UP ON A MILL VILLAGE
        I AM NOT A PAID SHILL but I do troll here to take issue with positions I think are unfounded. You know, sort of a FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT that YOU and I have.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        An ignorant uneducated one at that. Giving proof, that the onset of senility begins in the mid 70′s.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        nc, Do you think anybody really cares what you think or have to say? You obviously have spent your 77 years with your head in the sand, not bothering to learn how to read and write. How sad.

      • eddie47d

        Capitalist at Birth sounds like the ELITIST again in peddling his “destructive philosophies” or is that arrogance!

      • Nadzieja Batki

        nc, you contradict your own self. You want the right to speak your ‘mind” but then you turn around and will to stop anyone else from speaking their mind.

    • nc

      TheTruthHurts, Show me the TRUTH of FEMA camps for political prisoner? The TRUTH of cancelled elections? The TRUTH of Obama dictatorships? The TRUTH OF STOLEN ELECTIONS? The TRUTH of false flag government involvement in the mass shootings.

      THE TRUTH HURTS WORSE WHEN YOU “BELIEVE IT” BUT CAN’T PROVE IT. WANTING IT TO BE TRUE DOES NOT MAKE IT SO!
      YOU ARE THE SHEEPLE TO THOSE WHO TELL YOU ” WE CAN’T PROVE IT BUT JUST BELIEVE US.” 4 YEARS LATER YOU FIND OUT THEY LIED TO YOU.

      • Jana

        NC,
        Calm down, you are having a melt down here.
        Show you proof. Just one example. What about the lady they are investigating right now who was a voting poll judge who voted now 6 times? I think this was in Ohio but I may be wrong about the state. She was on TV and proud that she did this and sees nothing wrong with her actions. She voted for her family members she says.
        It is an ongoing investigation.

    • DrChiringa

      With all due respect this article says it
      like it is. Very hard for you, who served
      our country, to think that these elitists
      have the control they have. Before I die
      I wanted to know the truth which is hidden
      in plain sight. May I suggest The Road to
      Serfdom by Hayak ,The Creature from
      Jekyll Island by Griffin & Tragedy and Hope by an insider himself Quigley.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        The supposed “elitists” only have the power that people give over to them. We regularly make mention of Soros, O, Buffett, etc. and some of the readers almost pee in their pants from fear. Take a hard look and read about these people and see what moral failures they are, they could not choose a wife without picking up flakes, their home and personal lives are a mess. So we are to worship these human flops with money?

      • Karolyn

        Nadzieja – Please don’t include Buffet in yor harangue. He give away most of his money and lives humbly in the same ungated house he’s lived in for many years. Also, you really know nothing about these people’s personal lives.

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

        DrChiringa, go for it. You keep Buffet in your post. His donations go to his own foundations, is like giving him his own money back and getting a tax break, a loophole. Yes Buffet is one of the elitist, and a member of the Bohemian Grove. You ought to research his secret life, the side of him that most people don’t know about.

    • Charlie

      nc,,,
      You failed to reCOGnize that you are into “”Cognitive Dissonance”"and have been duped, deceived and deluded by the Satanic powers that be…. Meanwhile…………………………..
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

  • http://yahoo William

    A very informative and enlighening article, It is truly a shame that these people and groups are not specifically identified. With that info, the ordinary citizen would have a target person or group to apply pressure to. Brandon, I salute you. Please be careful, we can’t afford to lose you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Deerinwater

    Hmm? This sort of character has always been with us, ~ regardless what you call them.

    The entitled while their virtues vary.

    • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

      Haven’t scrolled all the way down yet but ole Brandon seems quiet……

      • Charlie

        GALT,,,
        What else can anyone say or do to you??? Brandon Smith , smashed your ego ,exposed your “intellectual” writings to be void of knowledge of “Real” wisdom and understanding of The Almighty God and His World History Book called The Holy Bible… Humble yourself and just admit you been “Bested” by The Kid, Brandon Smith… Meanwhile ………….. GALT take a salt pill,,, and,,
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…
        Now for a little Bible simplification of these Global Elitist evil , snake, devil people… Can God create a talking snake ? The Bible indicates that to be true,,, see that at Genesis 3 … Can God teach a Donkey to speak ??? see that at Numbers 22:28 ,,,maybe GALT is just a well educated A$$? ha ha ha ha… God does have a very good sense of humor………….
        These Modern day Evil people are the lineage of some of the evil people found in The Holy Bible. Evil started off at Genesis 13,,, Note:: Evil and “Sin” are synonyms, which means “transgression” of one or many of God’s Laws… Sin got so bad that God culled out His Creations at Noah flood… BUT?,,.Notice. even though , Noah and his 3 sons were God’s Choice for the future,,, they were still under the “”Curse”" of Adam,,, see those curses at Genesis 3:14–19… Notice what Noah did just as soon as he had some grapes to make wine of , got drunk , and created a condition for his son Ham to sin,,,see that at Genesis 9:22,,, so,,, Noah called in a curse on Ham’s son Canaan… Note:: Curses pass on to the lineage of the person cursed…so,,.now We have 2 “Curses” on a group of humanoids from the lineage Ham… Then,,,take a look at what happened at Genesis 11,
        Curse number 3 came down from God on the lineage of Ham and Japheth …
        That leaves the Lineage of Shem with just the curse of Adam,,,?,,,so far,,, BUT,,, take a look at Genesis 25:30—34,,, Esau, sinned, a simple sin BUT, gross in The Laws of God,,,
        Esau gave up His Blessings from God for a little body comfort…So?,,,now We have a group of people , Esau and his Lineage with 3 Curses on them,,,remember Esau breed with the lineage of Ham and Japheth… So,,, Jacob , Esau’s brother , got , The Birth Rights from God,,, Lawfully , but, with some deception , Jacob lied to his Daddy, Isaac,but with the help of his Mother and God his Daddy, Isaac blessed Jacob with the Major blessings of “”Birth Rights”……………..
        Esau/Edom and his lineage have been trying to get the Birth Right Blessings back Ever since… So??? these Global Elite people are mostly “”"Edomites”"”or the bastardized lineage of Esau / Edom ,,,BUT,,,bear in mind the Edomites have been “”Cursed”"” FOREVER!!! see that at Malachi 1:1–5…………
        Figure it out!!! God’s Chosen People are “”The Children of Jacob Israel”" as called out at
        1 Chronicles 16:13… Meanwhile……………………
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

  • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

    So what is the acceptable position to have as many see the the world population topping 7 billion people and rapidly gaining in number and increasing global demands for the basics of life like food and water.

    Do we need more people or less people or should we place such matters in the hand of our God and ignore it?

    • Nadzieja Batki

      There are enough of resources to go around if people stop behaving as pretentious superior TWITS who need to control and regulate what someone wears, eats, creates, shovels, raises, destroys. The ones who are the most dangerous people are the busybody do gooders who flit around the world telling people how to live when they themselves don’t have a clue how to live their own lives.

    • eddie47d

      Thanks for the rational comment Darwan. The strain on water supplies and energy resources are great and that puts a strain on how people act and how the Elites get to control us.

    • SlammoFandango

      Such mention by this writer is the argument against the logical fallacy, constantly disproved by time itself, that expanding world population will of itself cause depopulation of the world itself. The very same flawed claims this writer makes mention of and exception to were made a generation ago when the the world population was 4 billion and the same outlandish assertions were then made predicting the world would be by now overwrought by pollution and a depletion of resources, such which by now would be affecting even 1st-World nations. Those flawed predictions, which the writer alludes to, have not come to pass because the population of world does not and never has grown in a stagnant economy.

      Mankind always has and always will find new resources to power the economy which always does more overall good for the population than harm; which is why the population has been able to grow continually without us all poisoning or starving ourselves to death.

      Any anecdotal demise of isolated cultures such as that which once existed on Easter Island are the exception and not the rule while it is great harm against Man attributed to Man himself, such as war and pestilence, wiping out entire cultures has never decreased the overall world population or the overall well-being of the population as a whole.

    • tony newbill

      The first thing we need to do is demand tax loops be closed because These Tax Loopholes are allowing the Consolidation of Wealth and Resources further creating divide between upper and lower class citizens . This tax Fascism is ENDING the Middle Class and making Millionaires POOR People so the rest of us BEGGING the GOVERNMENT FOR a Handout Either Directly or Indirectly we get our Incomes from the Masses that are Getting Government handouts by them then spending this Handout in the private sector !!!!!!!!
      Fair Redistribution of the wealth and resources STARTS HERE with Changing this tax Code !!!!!!!
      http://www.topaccountingdegrees.org/taxes/

  • John R. Howell

    Mr. Smith, this is the best article I have ever seen on what is wrong with our world today. Even if we vote the current group of politicians out of office, the globalists who control the world will still be in power. Either we will continue to sink into world communism, or there will be a revolution where blood will run in the streets. John R. Howell

  • Vigilant

    “Global elitists tend to see themselves as a separate breed of human being, a superior class with superior faculties, born to rule over the rest of us. In their writings they often espouse the teachings of The Republic by Plato and the concept of the philosopher kings.”

    While the roots of communism and the political structure of the Catholic Church are often traced back to Plato’s Republic, the “global elitists” are badly mistaken in their understanding of Plato.

    Plato believed in a true aristocracy within the meaning of that word as those best suited to conduct the business of government and statesmanship. Not inherited aristocracy, but an aristocracy based on all the noble concepts and ideals of politics (and politics was once considered the highest of aspirations). Our own US Senate was originally established as a bow to aristocracy.

    It has been decades since I read Plato, but I remember his main points in the Republic. First of all, there was very clearly no similarity between his “philosopher kings” and the criminals of today who call themselves politicians. They were never rich, and never gained their position by “proving” themselves in any material endeavor. They certainly never believed they were “born to rule over the rest of us.”

    They did not seek out positions of power. They lived in a Spartan and celibate manner, having been chosen by the wise elders for their abilities at a young age. They underwent many years of training in the temperate and humane administration of leadership.

    As I recall, the Republic was populated with a vast majority of free peoples. Essentially, they had a greater freedom than we do in this country.

    Thus, any global elitists who claim a similarity between themselves and Plato’s philosopher kings are both stupid and disingenuous.

    • cawmun cents

      Even fools know the “Golden Rule”,which is that he with the gold (power through control of finance,or commerce) rules.
      Are you saying that ancient philosophers didnt know this simple truth?
      Because if that is what you are stating,then I think you are short of vision a tad.
      Try “Nicomachean Ethics” by Aristotle.
      It talks of these things in a bit more detail.
      Cheers!
      -CC.

      • Vigilant

        “Even fools know the “Golden Rule”, which is that he with the gold (power through control of finance, or commerce) rules.
        Are you saying that ancient philosophers didn’t know this simple truth?

        Because if that is what you are stating, then I think you are short of vision a tad.”

        Look up the meaning of the term “straw man.” I never said anything of that nature.

        Afraid you’ve missed the point completely, which was that global elitists are distorting Plato’s concept by falsely paralleling themselves as philosopher kings.

        It’s precisely BECAUSE the ancients understood this “Golden Rule,” as well as the tendency of governments to become self-serving that philosophical remedies for government were proposed. Even Plato understood that “The Republic” was a model Utopia. It was, in his mind, something to shoot for as a means of governing men. It’s called an “ideal.”

      • cawmun cents

        The current rank and phile of the political class in our nation are products of Ivy League educational academics.But make no mistake,their knowledge goes much deeper than this fact.They mix daily with corporate giants and industrial moguls,and have the constant threat of being ousted for not playing the game.
        They have not only the teachings of Plato and Aristotle to go by,but also the wisdom of Solomon,the teachings of Confucious,the strategic musings of Musashi,Sun Tzu,and Mao Tse Tung,not to mention access to the Library of Congress.They have the knowledge of Black Science,have invented a phrase known as “Full Spectrum Domination”and have the most powerful military in history at their command,yet you claim they have no understanding of the reasoning behind Plato’s Republic?
        It is this kind of short-sightedness that leaves you without comprehension of todays elites,and their philosophical knowledge and leanings.
        They know everything that you know,and as a result of their power and influence,probably a great deal more than you give them credit for knowing.
        Where you get confused,is in the application of these knowledges,and the stage under which they are delivered.
        Your perception is exactly that,your perception.
        As is mine,which unfortunately is many times short-sighted as well.
        But you need to give these folks more credit than less to understand the scope of their deceptive capabilites.Otherwise you make the mistake of over-emphasizing your comprehension skills,and underestimating theirs.
        Cheers!
        -CC.

      • cawmun cents

        I guess in the end,what I am saying is that the modern elite are more diversified than the ancient”philosohpher kings”in that not only do they have their prior knowlege by which to rule,but knowledge which you and I likely do not know and cannot perceive at our vantage point.So we have this misunderstanding of their knowledge,but maybe not so much of their intent and how they wish to bring their intent to fruition.
        -CC.

      • Vigilant

        CC, I would NEVER accuse the elite of having the in depth knowledge of the classics as you seem to assume. Part of the problem, perhaps the lion’s share of the problem, is that you can count on one hand the universities of today that offer anything of value to the end of making us better citizens/leaders. The Ivy Leaguers today have virtually no understanding of the Great Books and the lessons they teach. Certainly, if they did, we would probably be in a much better situation.

        You don’t think so, just give Congress a test on civics and the Constitution. They, by and large, don’t know diddly about our country, nor the great Enlightenment philosophies from which it was generated. Those philosophies were a distillation of all that was found to be moral and useful in governing a body politic.

        It is this progressive failure to learn the lessons of history that will doom this nation. It’s not knowledge of great ideas, but a great abyss of ignorance, on the part of these “leaders” that have made them turn their backs on the people merely to serve their nefarious ends.

        “It is this kind of short-sightedness that leaves you without comprehension of todays [sic] elites,and their philosophical knowledge and leanings.”

        I am not accustomed to being accused of short-sightedness nor having a lack of comprehension. Nor do I appreciate it. Attack me on a personal basis if you will, but understand that’s all it is: ad hominem.

        “They know everything that you know, and as a result of their power and influence, probably a great deal more than you give them credit for knowing.”

        Pure speculation on your part. I see no evidence whatsoever that modern “leaders” are more intelligent or perceptive than I. Nor do you know the extent of my knowledge, as far as that goes.

        “Where you get confused, is in the application of these knowledges, and the stage under which they are delivered.
        Your perception is exactly that, your perception.”

        I am not a bit confused, sir. If you were less confused yourself, you’d see in a heartbeat that knowledge or lack of knowledge of the classics has nothing to do with the studied machinations of the global elites. The subject is clearly a MORAL issue, not an issue of knowledge.

      • cawmun cents

        Hows this…..I agree with you completley about what you have said.
        To a point.
        In fact if you know what I have been stating all along,while posting on this site,you will notice that though I am a Christian,I tend to take a secular argument to many things merely because that is how I understand that many people communicate without bringing religion to the argument.
        But I know that since my understanding is limited,I am willing to admit it.
        As this may be the case here,I defer to your comments.
        I agree that it SEEMS as though they do not comprehend or view things as well as the “philosopher Kings” of old.
        Whether it is through willful ignorance,or intentionally doing things differently for reasons I cannot fathom,I do not know.
        That much I admit.
        I do not know.
        But often dear Vig,I find myself agreeing with what you say based entirely upon my perception.
        Cheers!
        -CC.

      • Vigilant

        cawmun cents, we got off to a wrong start on this thread, and I apologize for my inflammatory reaction. Get thin skinned sometimes.

        I have respected your postings for some time now, and they indeed do display a common sense that is so rare in these times.

        Oddly, while you are a Christian who wisely takes the secular perspective in discussion, you have seen me often take the position of extolling Christian values even though I’m not a Christian.

        You are a worthy member of this forum. I tend to get wordy and sometimes bombastic. You need to kick me in the backside sometimes. (:-)

      • Kate8

        cawmun cents and Vigilant – That was a heartwarming example of how real men of honor resolve their differences. You are both assets to this thread and this country.

        This, folks, is how we come together and heal our Republic.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Plato was advocating a caste system not unlike India, China, Japan then Europe, Africa, etc.. America threw a monkey wrench into the works and escaped the caste system. But with the onset and acceptance of socialism/communism America is developing a caste system.

      • R.F.

        America avoided the caste system? Are you serious? Ever hear of SLAVERY? That’s actually beyond a mere caste system. And, in many ways racial inequality and dramatic economic inequality still exists in a profound way and these social ills have existed for a very long time – certainly nothing new.

      • Jana

        R F,
        Does everything have to come back to slavery? Do you honestly think the blacks were the only slaves ever?
        Slavery has been around since the beginning of time and probably at one time or another with almost every race.
        At one point the Irish were slaves here in America too.
        It’s what you do about it, not how long you can complain about it, dwell in it and cry about it.
        As long as you keep reliving it the longer the slavery still consumes you and you are still enslaved.
        The public school system as bad as it may be offers an education that at least teaches reading, writing and arithmetic. How many of our youths are actually taking advantage of this? Now it’s considered a bad thing to make good grades in school by their peers. This is classic slavery. Keep them dumb ed down.

        • R. Fine

          No, not everything need go back to slavery. I was simply responding to a writer who claimed that America never had a caste system. I wanted to remind that writer that America was largely based on slavery which is the ultimate caste situation it seems to me.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        We have read Matthew 5 and found you in violation of a number of verses in Matthew 5, the Sermon on the Mount, the beatitudes ……………………………..

        • R. Fine

          Not that it matters much to me but what exactly do you figure I’m in violation of?

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Verse 16,Verse 20 …………………………

        • R.F.

          America was actually based on a caste system almost from the start. Slavery was actually the worst form of a caste system. Of course when you are convinced of some position it’s easy to ignore bald faced facts.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        So what’s wrong with a Caste System? The Children of Israel are a Caste System under King Jesus Christ……………………………………………..

  • Guy Foote

    As I read this article it puts a fear in me like no other, the people of the U.S. need to wake up soon before its to late. I’m in fear that it is already to late…

    • eddie47d

      These events have been happening since the beginning of time. Torture,abuse and sexual indiscretions were just as common but seldom reported like they are these days. (blown out of proportion at times). Don’t use these articles to bring fear into your heart because mankind will move forward.

      • Jana

        Eddie,
        You are right. We don’t need to live in fear, but we don’t need to live with our head stuck in the sand either. We need to be aware of what is going on and at least try to do something about it, not just ignore it and hope it will go away as we know that tactic does not ever work.

  • Vigilant

    “What frightens the common citizen is the possibility that some people hurt others not because their mommy and daddy “mistreated” them or because they have a psychological deficiency, but because they fully and consciously enjoy doing what they do.”

    I submit that full and conscious enjoyment of doing harm is in itself a “a psychological deficiency.”

    • cawmun cents

      While I agree with your assessment,I would like to point out that to some of us,it may indicate a spiritual deficiency as well.
      -CC.

      • Vigilant

        Agreed!

  • http://midcontent ridge runner

    Since the 2 hairless bipedal fakes in the WH, are classic elitist pukes, they each have to have their own private Caddy jet, that costs taxpayers about $200,000 an hour in just fuel.No wonder the debt keeps climbing, with fkups in the WH never will be nothing but elitist pukes all their worthless lives.

    • RedMann

      How wonderfully American of you. Your ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) is showing. This is the hateful, misinformed face of the right.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1007113269 Marc Albertario

        RedMann, you fall into the trap of defending the left and attacking the right. The point of the article is they populate both sides of the aisle. Lack of morality = evil. The rest is yak [expletive deleted]

      • Hey You

        Indeed, Marc, they are on all sides and come in all political persuasions.

  • DrChiringa

    What a poetic way to put it. This was a phenomenal article. Keep up the good
    work Mr Smith!

  • Vigilant

    “We would love to believe that all destructive and malicious behavior is merely a product of bad environment…”

    Such is the perennial mantra of the liberal behaviorist. In the “nature vs. nurture” discussion, the left will have you believe that any social problem can be cured if you throw enough money at it. After all, if the lack of success of a group or individual is purely the product of upbringing and socioeconomic status, then all you have to do is facilitate a change of environment, right?

    Nothing could be more false than this view. And nothing could be more antithetical to the US Constitution, that estimable document that was established, among other reasons, to celebrate and protect our natural differences in talent and IQ.

    The highly dangerous socialist view that environment alone determines our successes and failures in life leads to the bankrupt idea that the government exists to guarantee equal outcomes, not equal opportunity.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Some people are predators, and they are in every nation on the planert, because they want to be predators.Grabbing, stealing, coveting, raiding,burning, pillaging, vandalism comes so easy to these predators. Thinking and working and producing is much too hard for these predators so they go and take by whaterver means from the producers which have no ability to protect their own selves.
      The strange thing is that predators never seem to have or keep what they take so eventually they have to live among the producers to have ready access to take.

    • Karolyn

      It’s not a product of environment; it’s a product of society. Personally, I am hoping that our forefathers – the aliens – will come back and straighten everybody out.

      • Vigilant

        “It’s not a product of environment; it’s a product of society.”

        For the purposes of liberal argument, they are one and the same, dear, one and the same.

        No amount of money will ever cure the differences in IQ between the races. It’s a function of genetics, not societal differences nor in the way society treats people.

      • Karolyn

        Society creates the environment.

      • Vigilant

        Well, thank you for admitting I’m right!

      • Kate8

        Vig and Karolyn – One thing we need to start doing is holding the INDIVIDUAL responsible for his own behavior.

        When someone in government enforcement, or some other representative of “authority” comes to our door, or sends us a notice, we view them as having the looming power of the fictitious entity they represent. Yet, they are simply another earth being, no more nor less powerful than are we.

        So, we must address them on a one-on-one basis, by name, with the personal respect we’d address anyone we meet. Hold them personally accountable for whatever actions they take, because they are. “Will you, John Smith, fellow citizen, commit this act of assault upon me, your brother, with willful intent, separate and apart from any illusion of a greater power?”

        (Like the paid trolls on these sites, they consider their time purchased, and they are just “doing their job”, in exchange for a living… The NAZIs said the same thing.)

        This is how soldiers and officers of “The LAW” are made able to do it: they are given the backing of “authority” that is not inherently theirs, nor does it even truly exist apart from those who are willing to carry out the intent of some malicious, often unknown person or persons who are neither more nor less “in authority” except by their backing of wealth to purchase the actions of other persons wearing the false cloak of illusion.

        Until we all are held to account for OUR OWN ACTIONS, and not hide behind some illusion of “authority”, nor bow to it… we all continue to be participants in a game of illusion, and as such are said to be in agreement with all that happens to ourselves and things done in our names.

        The only thing separating us from the elite is MONEY. And, of course, knowledge of what is really going on. If we could rally an equivalent of resources by some means, we’d be able to buy armies to represent us, as well. Perhaps it’s time we consider what has been spent in terms of life and blood, and rally our numbers to stand in the name of love and humanity.

        Sure, they’ll kill many of us, But if we don’t, they’ll kill more of us.

      • Hey You

        Seems as if Kate8 has it correct. “I’m only following orders” is a curtain that needs to be ripped away.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        I HEAR ‘YA – “Kate8,” MA’AM. [I will always call you ma'am, even though you insulted me by calling me, "homeboy"].

      • Kate8

        That was a term to describe your demeanor, Christopher. Not you, personally.

        It seems that you often use that demeanor to lure people into conversations with you, and then you go for the throat. That seems suspicious to some of us.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        AS ALWAYS, IT IS NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU, MA’AM. [No matter what happens between us, I WILL ALWAYS greet you this way].

        “Homeboy” IS A SLANG TERM CREATED BY, Afrocentric blacks. AS MORE CAUCASIANS BEGAN TO INTERMINGLE WITH blacks, THEY STARTED USING THE WORD. “Kate8,” MA’AM, I WAS INSULTED BECAUSE YOU CALLED ME “homeboy,” AFTER YOU FINALLY REALIZED I AM NEGRO.

        “Kate8,” PEOPLE ON THIS SITE HAVE “SET-UP” DEFINITIONS FOR “CONSERVATIVE” AND “LIBERAL.” I DO NOT FIT INTO EITHER CATEGORY. THAT IS WHY YOU FEEL I [sic], “lure people in and go for the throat.”

      • Kate8

        CHRISTOPHER – I know nothing of slang terms among “negroes” nor any other racial/cultural group. I do not operate with inuendo.

        Any ulterior meaning you place on my words is strictly your own. I will not take responsibility for the twisting of meanings by anyone.

        You know exactly to what I was referring.

      • Jana

        Christopher,
        It seems like you have been “insulted” a lot today and most of it has been needlessly self imposed.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        TOUCHE, “Kate8.”

    • nc

      Vigilant, the lack of equal opportunity during large parts of our history has lead to the lack of equal outcomes for a large part of our society. It takes more than one or two generations to cover some 6 or more generations of being denied economic and education opportunity.. If you don’t believe that certain parts of our society have not been depressed by business owners and state and federal governments you don’t live around here!

      Just within my “generation” I have witnessed the “separate but equal” joke of an education system> I visited black schools when I was in school! They had ‘nothing ” in equipment compared to what my white school had> Their teachers had been trained in separate but equal colleges that suffered the same problems in preparing teachers!
      As for the “poor whites”, my father was a perfect example of their plight. Born into a large family where his father died in 1910 s he had to quit school and enter the work force at 13 . Was a “sweeper” in a cotton mill at age 15. Married at 18, both he and mom worked in he mill so they could get a company house! Worked for that same mill family for 35 years before he reached management level with his 7th grade education. My mom worked through bad health so we could have a place to live> The COMPANY DICTATED THEIR LIVES! LOW WAGES AND NO TALK ABOUT UNIONS!

      THEY BUSTED THEIR BUTTS TO MAKE ME AND MY SISTER MORE “EQUAL” THAN THEY WERE WHEN, IN TRUTH, THEY WERE PART OF OUR GREATEST GENERATION!

      THIS COUNTRY DOES HAVE SOME DEBTS TO PAY TO THE LESS FORTUNATE! THEY TOOK IT, THEY LIVED IT, AND NEVER REVOLTED!

  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    In all these cases I must go back to the bible. Clearly God created man with the ability to chose, good or evil. Evil men know that. The communist Lenin said: people think in words and how they interpret words is who they are. We no longer use words with moral content (MORAL: God’s rules for action and interaction) but instead have replaced them with words that have a scientific or watered down definition for human conduct. Gay or homosexual has replaced Sodomites. An affair has replaced adultery. A partnership has replaced living in a immoral life style. With moral definitions people use to think twice before they entered into them. With a scientific or watered down definition, immoral conduct is completely in vogue. Ethics in the 1828 Webster dictionary is linked to morality while in new a dictionary it’s simply a way of life. Franklin linked morality to education stating together they are the strength of the nation. Apart? You know how we are living and what our destiny is. Man’s ability to reason is his link to God. If he tries to reason without God…..

    • RedMann

      Let’s see, David Barton lying about American history, Tony Perkins, Byran Fischer, Matt Staver, Matt Barber, Scott Lively and hundreds more lying about homosexuals, Republican representatives making up wild stories about rape. Yeah we can see that being a Christian automatically makes you good. All of the people I mentioned loudly and longly proclaim how much they love God and that they are just doing his work. Again; beam – mote.

      • JUKEBOX

        I have a neighbor who claims to be a Christian minister, but my dealings with him have proven him to be a modern day version of the Pharisees. There are hypocrites among professed Christians, just like professed liberals, who excoriate the “WEALTHY”, while they are multi millionaires themselves.

      • Kate8

        JUKEBOX – I would take it even further and say that MOST of Christendom today is apostate. Whether willingly or by evolution, today’s churches have bowed to government, remain silent where told to remain silent, and instruct their flocks to obey the “laws” being shoved down our throats. The tell us to honor caesar, basically, and render to him…

        This is yet the reach of the “abomination of desolation”, that satan sits on the throne of all world institutions, as well as in the hearts of men.

      • Kate8

        BTW, this is one of the saddest, most tragic examples of where satan has destroyed that which was meant to be our best line of defense. It is truly heartwrenching, especially the aspect of ultimate betrayal by our leaders toward those who give their all:

        http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2013/02/are-zionist-nazis-suiciding-our.html

        I wanted to send this to everyone, but no one wants to hear these things. “What can I do about it?” is the response I get. So, better not to know.

        Really?

        There IS something we can do. We can PRAY FOR THESE MEN AND WOMEN WITH ALL OF OUR HEARTS. They went into these armed forces in good faith, pledging their lives and honor for their country, and have been utterly betrayed. They deserve at least our prayers.

        BTW, this raises some very serious questions about the real intent of Stuart Rhodes. I’ve seen some very disturbing evidence that he has been seen cavorting with enemies… And IS how the enemy works: organize groups which draw out the ones who will resist.

        You have to wonder how some of these people travel all over in complete safety, while others who are far less outspoken are meeting with tragic ends almost daily.

      • Jana

        Sadly you are so right in not being able to trust someone just because they CLAIM to be a Christian. Many who say they are don’t show they are by their actions.
        We have been cheated by Christians as well as non Christians.
        Being a Christian doesn’t make you better than anyone else, or less human. It does mean however that at the end of the day or our lives we do have someone that we can ask forgiveness from and if we repent we will be forgiven. This flesh of our is weak and God provided Himself a sacrifice for our sins, that sacrifice was Jesus Christ.
        It also means we have an example that we are to try and live up to. Even though we fall very short we still keep trying ……and repenting.

      • Charlie

        IF,,,a person has not accomplished Acts 2:38, or very similar Scripture with understanding
        then , one most likely Is Not a Christian… Is there some other Book to go by? Then why not do things The Way King Jesus and His Men said in His Book??? Remember Acts 2:38 is backed up by 1 Peter 3:21 and Matthew 16:19… Even GALT does not understand these 3 Scriptures in harmony…………………………….

  • Sharyn

    We all have brains so use them! The problem today is some let others think for them for they are unwilling or incapable of thinking for themselves. Thanks to the welfare system that enables this to continue, why work when you are given a hand out. However they don’t see that they have become enslaved to the government i.e. they won’t bite the hand that feeds them.

  • William Yeager

    Excellent points made. The upper layer of oppression is growing so prevalent in our society through the amorality of the news media it’s difficult to see a clear picture of the threats society is now facing, particularly in America.

  • boyscout

    Who is this average person who deems evil to be subjective? Certainly none of the elite who read and agree with your pedantic statements, and certainly no one that I have encountered so far in life. Like so many of the assumptions that follow, your first factoid is just so much hog snot. Yes, undoubtedly there are elitists at work or at least pay qualified henchmen to work their evil for them, and I am sure that their propagandists employ tactics not dissimilar to those of this article. Please work on your writing style and convince me that you can differentiate yourself from those manipulators.

    • Vigilant

      “Who is this average person who deems evil to be subjective?”

      They’re called liberals, but you’re right: they’re not average.

      • RedMann

        Wrong, they’re called far right “conservatives”. Conservative is in quotes because those running the right wing are not the conservatives from the past, they are ideologically driven with no regard for reality. The right has become the haters; anti-gay, anti-women, pro rich. The Tea Party element of the Republican party is responsible for the fiscal mess we are in. People, like me, are losing their jobs all over due to their intransigence on taxes – “No taxes, ever”. Liberal, in general, have the interest of the poor and middle class in mind. Liberals are not the “overspenders”, Republicans drove the defict to where it is now between Bush’s two of the books wars, huge tax cuts and de-regulation. Since 2008 they have done everything possible to block anything that would have improved recovery because it is their best interest to create finacial brekdown so they can blame it all on Obama and steal more seats in legislatures and more governorships. All over the country Republican legislatures are doing everything in their power to limit voting. This along with their aggressive gerrymandering and attempts to rig the Electoral College show they are only interested in gaining and holding power, not actually governing. So check the beam in your own eye before you talk about the mote in the liberals eye.

      • Capitalist at Birth

        RedMann, You are obviously ignorant, proven by your barely understandable rant. Yes I would limit the vote, and you may call me conservative if it suits you. I would like to prevent ignorant people such as yourself from voting, and restrict the age to 25 and older, and taxpayers only. Just for starters.

      • Jana

        Uh oh people, another paid Liberal leftist has come among us. He has all of the same ole same ole down pat answers with all of the lies that they always tell right down to the nth degree.
        Red Man yep that even tells us he is a Communist as his name denotes.
        Of course the fact that all that he claims isn’t true and hasn’t come to pass doesn’t bother him at all. He will still spout out these lies with his last breath.
        You are a:
        Good little communist soldier.

      • Vigilant

        Jana, I think Redmann’s failure to even expand on his lead statement shows that he didn’t understand the question in the first place, which was ““Who is this average person who deems evil to be subjective?”

        The rambling rant with which he treated us did not address ANYTHING having to do with moral relativism. Must have been a copy and paste talking point.

        So, to return to boyscout’s comment, it’s a slam dunk. The liberals are NOTED for their position that evil is a subjective concept. Conservatives are NOTED for their position that evil exists in this world, notwithstanding anyone’s contention that it is dependent on individual interpretation.

      • TML

        Not a liberal (political) thing. “Evil” (morality) is a subjective concept. That is a fact. It requires personal feelings to say that something is “good” or “evil”, thus it is subjective. It is the religious folks who simply deny this. They believe in an absolute morality – theirs.

        • tony newbill

          TML my open letter to Congress this Morning in the wake of Tax loophole reform !!!!!

          Dear Congress , do you think these tax loopholes are Fair ????

          These Tax Loopholes that are allowing the Consolidation of Wealth and Resources are also not forcing competition that is needed to expand supply and keep Inflation stabilized because the greater the control of resources and wealth the less Gut Instinct to Take the risk and make an effort .

          The 7 Deadly Sins are all about how Greed , Sloth , Vanity, Envy, Gluttony , Lust, and Anger become the focus once a consolidation of these Resources and Wealth are controlled by a Minority while the majority suffer , then the Popular Politics take Over as Politicians end up having to Politic in these venues to stay relevant and this is what we have today in our political process that’s Leading to a Dysfunctional Government that is dabbling with trying to keep the doors of government operation functioning through Fiat , and Sir this is when the democratic system is in a state of Collapse !!! So where do you think we are in this process ?

          Thanks and please consider this .

          http://www.topaccountingdegrees.org/taxes/

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Capitalist at Birth, RedMann is one of the member of the Kenyan Fraud’s Cyber Army which was created for the massive DISINFORMATION campaign to attack Conservative Anti-obama sites, Christians, all those, who oppose the Kenyan FRAUD’s agenda/ policies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BbGjGn-zlG4

        Thru DHS they hired 3575 cyber ‘warriors’ a.k.a. paid shills like RedMann to use an Internet as a MISINFORMATION tool to attack opposition. They are going after pro-Constitution, pro-guns, Christian “bigots” and “homophobes”, pro-lifers, pro-God’s marriage, et cetera. Their task is to vilify & nullify “false” information and spread their, left-wingers “truth”. Their goal is to destroy all American & Conservative VALUES.
        This is already happening. According to the source they put this into the play 2 days after inauguration.

        Each person of those 3575 people (RedMann is one of them) involved in this project, are creating multiple online identities. So 3575 would turn into 35 thousands and more, who would launch FULL TIME attacks on each and every one who is opposing the Charlatan’s agenda.

        This is an operation that has very strong structure with its leaders, supervisors and advisors, who instructing and training the paid shills how to launch the ACCUSATIONS of racism, of bigotry, homophobia, islamophobia, et cetera and giving them the TALKING POINTS to advance the Kenyan’s agenda. This is NOT an administration initiative. This is strictly an obama and the people, who are around him, initiative. They are trained in the PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE how to bring down an enemy/opponent by using Alinsky’s rules for radicals. If it does not work on the psychological level, then they are eliminating an enemy physically like they did with Andrew Breitbart.

        “28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” – Jesus Christ (Matthew 10)

        The UNINFORMED people are DISARMED people.
        If public will be informed, the O’Homobama money will be flashed into the toilet.

        The best way to “fight” them is to SPREAD the TRUTH and to ignore their comments.
        This is the BEST ARM against LIBTARDS/progressives/communists/fascists/ DEMONcrats.

        “Great is TRUTH, and mighty ABOVE ALL THINGS.” (2Ezdra 4:41)

        P.S. Just look how many lamebrained jerks on PLD website: RedMann, Robert Smith, KG, Jeff, his lackey satanist bobby, Flashy, Jopa, Nut Case, Right Brain Thinker, mark, Drakulette Karolyn & her buddy eddie(donkey), Donna, christopher allen horton, deerinmurkywater, Mary, cawmun cents…
        Do not hesitate to add to the list.

      • Hey You

        Subjective people come in all political persuasions. Yes, many liberals tend to be subjective, but many others are also. Fortunately, totally subjective people are a small portion of humanity. Most of us do have the “milk of human kindness” within us – - fortunately.

      • Vigilant

        The orderly operation of society and its very security depend upon recognition of culturally accepted norms of morality. That the United States was founded upon the absolute morality of Natural Law was testimony to the wisdom of the Founders.

        The foundation of the country was imperfect, to be sure, but it relied upon Christian morality for its guidelines. It has always been foolishly advanced by the moral relativists that “you can’t legislate morality.” That statement, of course, is simply a cheap trick with words.

        If we existed in a state of nature we would have no laws and, as Hobbes said, life would be “nasty, brutish and short.” Murder, theft, rape, etc. would be rampant and none could lift a finger save those who are adequately armed to defend themselves. This would be the ultimate moral relativism in which anything goes as long as I and my family can survive.

        The laws of a civilized society originate SOLELY from moral values, something that escapes the moral relativist. OF COURSE you can’t legislate morality as morality is a way of thinking. But you can, and do, create laws which exact penalties, both financially and physically, as a remedy against those who step outside the bounds of propriety as defined by the culture.

        Societies that are governed by fluid moral decisions based on whatever is in vogue at any given time are societies which will fail. When the only appeal in cases of seriously immoral behavior is to a council of mere human beings who are in positions to change their minds based on “situational ethics,” or how they feel at the moment, then you will have a rapid deterioration of that society into ultimate anarchy.

        History shows that secular governments, when not accompanied by a strong foundation and backup from a moral populace, are doomed to failure.

      • TML

        Vigilant says, “The laws of a civilized society originate SOLELY from moral values, something that escapes the moral relativist”

        It doesn’t escape them; moral relativists simply admit that it requires emotion to make a moral judgment. The requirement of emotion is the very definition of subjective. Even natural law is not absolute; it is not objective, as you said all laws originate solely from moral values. The rule of law itself is a moral foundation which does not necessarily come from Christianity. A republican form of government did not rely upon Christianity, and Christianity was never part of the common law. What you describe is government based on the rule of law, in contrast to no government, or government based on fluid moral decisions. Which actually…

        Vigilant says, “Societies that are governed by fluid moral decisions based on whatever is in vogue at any given time are societies which will fail.”

        … one of those was called the Holy Roman Empire.

        The “you can’t legislate morality” is simply an incomplete statement. The law of the land that such a statement actually refers to is the separation of church and state in the 1st Amendment which is meant to restrict the creation of laws to those acts which physically of financially injure others rather than some religious morals which do neither of those things. The statement should more correctly be said as, “you cannot legislate morals that neither physically or financially injures others”.

        Seriously, what is the fear of admitting that morality is subjective? Just because it is acknowledged that it requires emotion to make a moral judgment does stop anyone from have a strong moral belief system.

      • Karolyn

        Gee, Alondra, I’m proud to be on your list of freethinkers with open minds! Don’t appreciate the nickname though – so childish!

      • Karolyn

        TML – Absolutely correct! Morality is subective. There are accepted behaviors in other cultures which would not fit into our parameters as being “moral.”

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Alondra,”

        I WILL BE KIND TO YOU, EVEN THOUGH, YOU HAVE “psychoanalyzed” ME.

        IF “Alondra” IS YOUR REAL FIRST NAME AND YOU HAVE DECIDED TO NOT USE YOUR LAST NAME – THAT IS YOUR BUSINESS. BUT, HERE YOU ARE, MAKING BAD COMMENTARY ABOUT THE KENYAN AND ASKING PEOPLE TO SIGN A PETITION – WHICH IF SUCCESSFUL – WOULD BRING FORTH CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST THE KENYAN.

        THEN, YOU HAVE THE STUPIDITY TO TYPE-OUT MY REAL NAME (WHICH CAN BE Googled). “Alondra,” ONE LINK ALREADY EXISTS IN SEARCH ENGINES, WHICH SHOW THE WORLD YOUR CONTEMPT FOR THE KENYAN, SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU HAD TO TAKE A “STAB” AT ME.

        “Alondra,” IF YOU WANT TO “GO-OFF” ON ME, FINE; BUT, PROTECT YOURSELF – IF YOU FEEL A NEED TO – BY CREATING A NICKNAME FOR ME.

        THIS IS YOUR O-N-L-Y “FREEBIE,” dr. spockess.

  • Chaplain Viviana V. Hernandez

    Excellent perspective! This brings light to the extreme efforts to expand abortion in NY State. Money and greed is trumping the VALUE of human life. How can we permit a law that will decriminalize the Dissecting of a baby ALIVE up to 9 months?!!!

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

      If you knew the people and the organizations that are behind abortions, you would relize the top financers worship satan, and also belong to Bohemian Grove. They sacrifice babies to satan, their god. Abortions is another way they sacrifice babies, and also to get others to partake in it without them knowing they are. Every day the the satanist worshipers have a ritual offering all the aborted babies to molac, their god. The louder those babies scream, the more it pleases their god, that’s why they do abortions up to 9 months. The sad thing is, their inside their mother and you can’t hear their screams. If all those girls and woman knew that their babies were being sacrificed to satan you would see a lot less abortions. Unfortunately by having abortions they are worshipping satan and don’t realize it. They have given their souls over to satan, condemed themselves to hell.

    • Charlie

      Chaplain Viviana,,,
      Have you prayed for The “Judgement” of King Jesus Christ to fall upon these baby killers?
      Did you pray in The Name and Blood of King Jesus Christ??? Meanwhile……………………..
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

  • http://www.facebook.com/shelly.obrien.77 Shelly O’Brien

    What I find amusing is how all the Obama haters immediately assume it is the ‘liberals’ the guy is talking about. When a GREAT many of the richest folks on the planet are conservatives who think they know what is best for us in every aspect of our life. Look into the Bilderbergs, the CFR, Tri-Lateral commission…. They all have one thing in common. MONEY. LOTS of money. And with that money comes power. And we are just the ‘useless eaters’ in their eyes.

    • Jana

      Shelly O’Brien says, “What I find amusing is how all the Obama haters immediately assume it is the ‘liberals’ the guy is talking about. When a GREAT many of the richest folks on the planet are conservatives who think they know what is best for us in every aspect of our life”______________

      First let me point out we don’t hate the man, we hate his policies, we hate what he stands for, which is Socialism and Communism.
      Yes, we immediately assume he is talking about LIBERALS because they are the ones who want to control everyone. Even you who have bought into the lies that have been told by them are being controlled oh so willingly. You are what is called gullible.
      At least the conservatives (notice I didn’t say Republicans, I said CONSERVATIVES) know what to stand against and to look out for.

      • http://www.facebook.com/shelly.obrien.77 Shelly O’Brien

        A. Look up the difference in Socialism and Communism. That in itself tells me you know NOT of which you speak. B. I have no delusions that Obama isn’t right in the mix with the “One World Order” gang, BUT it is truly to their advantage to have all of US at each others throats. Arguing that it is a ‘liberal’ or ‘conservative’ issue, when in fact, there isn’t a SHRED of difference in the two parties, when you dig deeply enough. At least at the top. They are all in bed together and the ONLY ones they care about are the very wealthiest. The rest of us are just using up THEIR natural resources. If you fail to see that, it is no shock. YOU are the one blindly following the tall tales they feed us to keep us in line….

      • Jana

        Shelly O’Brien,

        Me thinks you are the one who doesn’t know the difference between Socialism and Communism. Your precious Obama in his own words in his own book has stated that he has felt drawn to these philosophies and surrounds himself with people who share these philosophies. Proof? Look who he has put in as his Czars. Socialists and Communists.
        _____________________________
        http://www.diffen.com/difference/Communism_vs_Socialism

        In a way, communism is an extreme form of socialism. Many countries have dominant socialist political parties but very few are truly communist. In fact, most countries – including staunch capitalist bastions like the U.S. and U.K. – have government programs that borrow from socialist principles. “Socialism” is sometimes used interchangeably with “communism” but the two philosophies have some stark differences. Most notably, while communism is a political system, socialism is primarily an economic system that can exist in various forms under a wide range of political systems._________________________

        You are wrong when you state there isn’t any difference between liberalism and conservatism. It is you who doesn’t know what she is talking about.
        You would be right if you would have said there isn’t any difference between liberalism and Republicans because the Republican party is not a Conservative Party at all.

    • JUKEBOX

      Evidently, Shelly has never really listened to any of Obama’s speeches or read any of his writings, because if she did, she would see what a narcissistic hypocrite he is when he claims he is looking out for the middle class. He has spent close billion dollars on his family’s vacations at the taxpayer expense. Tell me whether that is elitism, at a time when there is 8% unemployment.

    • alpha-lemming

      We don’t assume they refer to liberals…. WE KNOW!

      The “rich”.. at least the ones who got there via the capitalist market, NEED the eaters. In fact, the more the better, and the customers have the OPTION of parting/or not with their earnings… diametrically opposed to the typical YOU WILL mandate by the elitists. The rich can’t out price the markets ability to pay, competition will insure the best “bang for the buck” to continue that VOLUNTARY expenditure of peoples hard-earned money. The liberals, progressives, communists, collectivists…. whatever moniker you’re using this week… offer NO choice… only rules. THAT is the difference between the sides and why your argument’s all wet.

    • Hey You

      Actually, Shelly, the one thing “evil” people have in common is not money, but their own subjectivity. Subjectivity is being concerned with only oneself rather than being even aware of other people’s wants and aspirations. That’s beyond “selfish”; it’s subjective as differentiated from objective.

      Some of the most evil persons in history had (in their own eyes) great moral and honorable ideas; they pursued those ideas regardless of the cost to others. We have seen the results over history. But we misjudge the root of the evil by equating money and the love of money as the root. In most cases, it was not money but rather the subjective person’s (bloody, subjective) trail toward his or her quest for his (her) view of the perfect society.

      • Karolyn

        Hey, Hey! :-) One can be subjective and not selfish. They do not naturally fit together.

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

      Shelly, the elitist are not affiliated with any party. The party system is for we the people to keep us divided, and keep our minds off them. They use it as a deterrent for us. As long as we are focused on each other, they can do what ever they want and we won’t know about it until it’s too late.

    • sam1966

      It seems that you have forgotten that most of the rich, elite, here in America are of the libturd/progturd party. Why do you automatically attack those to the right and bring a political spin into your post? I agree with the CFR, the Tri-lateral Commission, but there are also the Rothchilds, Bilderbergs (Obama bin Laden is a member), and the Illuminati. Here is something showing how big brother is overshadowing our country of faith.

      http://www.lastresistance.com/1378/without-faith-we-are-exiled-to-coward-nation/

      FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “I had the honor of being one who framed the Constitution. In order to effectually to accomplish these great constitutional ends, it is especially the duty of those who bear rule to promote and encourage respect for God and virtue.”

      Henry Laurens

  • http://yahoo Don

    can you imagine what will happen to this sinful group comes judgement day? the genetical inferior will rise and the superior powerful will populate the population of hell. didn’t it say something in the bible like blessed are the meek.

    • Kate8

      Don – Yes… I believe that the “restrainer” spoken of in scripture is spirit/conscience. When this “restrainer” is removed, then all h*ll breaks loose in full.

      The “abomination of desolation”… When the beastial aspect/intellect assumes complete control of the “temple” (the manifest being), and he is devoid of soul/spirit.

      Let’s not forget that what takes place in the physical is a reflection of the inner consciousness of the collective. The drugging and hypnosis (via electronics) and mass poisoning of the environment is nullifying the soul (the elite claim to be able to kill the soul. And so they do, using their “toys”).

      We are experiencing this “abomination of desolation” now. The heart is our Christ center, and just as this center has enthroned the ego (anti-Christ) in most of humanity, this anti-Christ consciousness is manifesting as world rulership.

      It is up to each of us whom we shall serve. A strong spirit connection is the only thing which can save us. It is the greater part of our being, and the only part that can endure.

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

      After researching the different members in the illuminati and their autracities(sp), I take great relief knowing that the ones that have died are getting their just rewards in hell, with their god, satan.. Sorry, I know it’s not right, but I can’t help feeling that way.

  • JQcitizen

    Excellent article. It is unfortunate that most Americans do not recognize the impact of the mind-set of the so-called globalist-elite on our nation. Our adherence to individualism, self-reliance, morality, economic self-determination, religious freedom, constitution law, have been detrimentally impacted at an ever increasing pace. We can only hope that our citizens will wake up before it is too late.

  • RedMann

    So, Brandon, who are these global elitists? Could they be the Koch brother, Mitt Romney other big business leaders how have exported millions of jobs, use off-shore holdings to hide their profits so they can avoid taxes? How about the Catholic Chorch, billions in property while they coverup child abuse. How about evangilists like Benny Hinn who rake in millions from their flock, have several multi-million dollar homes, huge private jets?

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      People, please go to the link I provide and sign the petition to Congress to investigate of the Criminal-in-chief’s use of forged IDs. 33,820 Americans already signed it. Clock is ticking. Act now! Please pass on to all your e-mail contacts. Thanks.
      http://www.petition2congress.c

      “Fiat justitia ruat caelum” – “Let justice be done though the heavens fall”

      P.S. The Supreme Court of the United States does not state whether the Orly Taitz case was granted or denied, no answer yet, NO TREASON YET by the justices of the Supreme Court. Go to the Orly’s website and look for her Reports.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Orly Taitz’ Website is: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/

      • Kate8

        Alondra – I wouldn’t be holding my breath. The “esteemed” justices sitting on the bench hold dual Israeli/American citizenship, and are loyal to the Zionist masters. They will find another loophole to dismiss this issue.

        Our government is fully infiltrated with traitors… enemy agents. They hold the power. Don’t expect any of them to side with the people. If they did, they would not live.

        BTW, expect the revealing of the you-know-who very soon… Perhaps as early as the Spring Equinox.

        Things are definitely heating up.

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Part 1
        Kate, you might remember my post:

        Alondra says: February 13, 2013 at 10:25 am
        Orly Taitz Takes Criminal Case Against O’Liar-in-chief To Supreme Court.
        For the FIRST time on the February 15, 2013 the SUPREME COURT WILL HEAR OBAMA ELIGIBILITY CASE!
        It was reviewed by the chief justice (John Roberts) and he PERSONALLY referred it to the full court.

        Dec 11 2012 Application (12A606) for a stay, submitted to Justice Kennedy
        Dec 13 2012 Application (12A606) DENIED by Justice Kennedy

        Dec 26 2012 Application (12A606) REFILED and SUBMITTED to The Chief Justice
        Jan 9 2013 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of February 15, 2013
        Jan 9 2013 Application (12A606) REFERRED to the Court

        Go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nKM27IcbGs

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Part 2
        Press release: clerks of the Supreme Court never forwarded to 5 out of 9 Justices one single page of pleadings, they also did not forward to any of the Justices the Supplemental Brief.

        “Evidence of employees of the supreme court of the united states hiding from justices of the supreme court pleadings and documents submitted by plaintiffs and attorneys, removing cases from the electronic docket, evidence of bogus conferences of justices being reported to the public, when no such conferences took places and the justices being clueless about the very existences of the case, evidence of criminal complicity of the employees of the supreme court and treason in the most serious cases dealing with national security.”

        http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=391915

        P.S. Take look at the “Member of the Regime” Comment #15.
        This is a clear evidence of the Liberal insanity.

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

        Kate8, Not all Jews are Zionist Jews, just the alitist jews. Not all Catholics are bad, just the ones at the top, the ones at the bottom don’t know what the ones at the top are doing. Same way with the Jihova(sp) witnesses, the Masons, and most religions, the ones on the bottom don’t know what the top is doing. Most people go around their daily business and don’t pay attention to the big picture. Like Jesus said “like in the time of Noah, people will be partying, getting married, etc.” Jesus also said “He who is of the day (light) will be awake and will live, he who is of the night (darkness) will not. Sorry not quite the exact quote, but close.

      • kimo3690

        Viewed & Signed TY Alondra for keeping up the FIGHT!!

      • Kate8

        Julie – I am fully aware of who the Zionists (Khazars) are, and who are the children of the Jewish bloodline.

        I did not say the “Jews”, I said “Zionists”. Fake Jews. “Woe unto the wicked in high places who call themselves Jews but are not”.

        Sadly, many Jews do follow and/or defend the Zionists, as has been demonstrated on these threads at times. However, many do not. I salute these good folks.

        Many Christians also support the Zionists, many without understanding who they are, believing them to be the Jews of ancient Israel. And secularists give Zionist support, too, knowingly or not.

        The whole of the world is corrupt, save a very few.

      • Kate8

        Alondra – Believe me, I follow all of that stuff. But I do not have the faith in Justice Roberts that you do. Remember that he is among the recipients included in the Vatican slush fund (for buying off people in high office, which also includes such notables as the Clintons, Obamas, Boehner, Pelosi and several others).

        Maybe the clerks withheld the documents. Or maybe they are just more patsies. Either way, don’t forget that Roberts upheld Obamacare.

      • sam1966

        Well said fellow patriots. If push comes to shove, we can try to do what Texas is thinking about and secede.

        http://www.wnd.com/2013/02/texas-preps-for-going-it-alone/

        This sounds good to me. Just make sure the Bilderbergs, Illuminati, and the Rothchilds don’t get in. If we went back to going strictly by our Constitution and Christian founding, we wouldn’t have these problems today. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “The Bible is a book containing the history of all men and of all nations and is a necessary part of a polite education.”

        Henry Laurens

    • JUKEBOX

      It sounds like to me that Brandon has done a complete psychological evaluation of Barry Soetoro, AKA Barak Hussein Obama. I can see every one of the described characteristics in the man/child who sits in the Oval Office.

      • JeffH

        JUKEBOX, actually I’d say that George Soros and his Open Society Institute has done far more damage to our Constitutional Republic than any other individual in this country. His funding has created a web of organizations that has, through propaganda, directly shaped and influenced the mindset of the progressive movement both politically, economically.

        Organizations that, in recent years, have received direct funding and assistance from George Soros and his Open Society Institute (OSI) include the following.
        http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

      RedMann, here is an article that gives the history of the top 13 families that rules the world. This is not a propaganda article, nor conspiracy, but more of a biography of the top 13 illuminati families. This is not for the faint of heart, so while you read it, stay strong. Here it is: Search “Thewatcherfiles” find the article “The 13 Illuminati Satanic Bloodlines” by Fritz Springmeier When you read this think about what is happening in the world today. This article will be a good article for patriots to read. If you like your freedoms, prepare your self with knowledge. Remember “Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer” also “Know your enemy before you go to battle” May God bless you, and protect you. For you people that don’t care for God or Jesus, after you read this you will understand why I said it.

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      Part 2
      Press release: clerks of the Supreme Court never forwarded to 5 out of 9 Justices one single page of pleadings, they also did not forward to any of the Justices the Supplemental Brief.

      “Evidence of employees of the supreme court of the united states hiding from justices of the supreme court pleadings and documents submitted by plaintiffs and attorneys, removing cases from the electronic docket, evidence of bogus conferences of justices being reported to the public, when no such conferences took places and the justices being clueless about the very existences of the case, evidence of criminal complicity of the employees of the supreme court and treason in the most serious cases dealing with national security.”

      http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=391915

      P.S. Take look at the “Member of the Regime” Comment #15.
      This is a clear evidence of the Liberal insanity.

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

        Alondra, thanks for the info. That could explain what Obama said a couple of years ago about his daughters didn’t have to worry, they are taken care of financially. It might also explain why K Moon resigned as human rights director for the UN last year and why Pope Benedict XVl resigned.

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      RedMann says: “So, Brandon, who are these global elitists?”

      RedMann, Do you want to know who they are?
      Here you have some names:

      “SLUSH FUND ACCOUNTS of major US politicians identified and seized at Vatican Bank (Rome). Connection established with Daniel Dal Bosco RICO indictment, which cites Giancarlo Bruno, Silvio Berlusconi & Ban Ki Moon. On Wednesday 5th January 2011, it emerged that US establishment-related slush fund accounts had been located in, and seized from, the Vatican Bank in Rome.”

      “The source of funds for these accounts in almost every instance was found to be the US Treasury. Beneficiaries of the covert Vatican accounts include BARACK OBAMA, MICHELLE OBAMA and each of the OBAMA CHILDREN, MICHELLE OBAMA’S MOTHER, all the BUSHES and the CLINTONS, including CHELSEA CLINTON, JOE BIDEN, TIMOTHY GEITHNER, JANET NAPOLITANO, several US Senators, including MITCH MCCONNELL, several US Congressmen including JOHN BOEHNER, several US Military Chiefs of Staff, the US Provost Marshal, the US Judge Advocate General, the US SUPREME COURT CHIEF JUSTICE, JOHN ROBERTS, several US Judges, the Pope, and several cardinals. Big money was found in each of the accounts.”

      “The longer the beneficiaries have been in office, the greater the account balances were found to be. They range from a few million USD to more than a billion USD in the case of John Roberts. The total number of slush fund accounts so far identified at the Vatican Bank is said to be between 600 and 700. This number is likely to grow as international élite corruption investigations spread worldwide.”

      “The disclosures have split the Roman Catholic Legatus organisation down the middle. Elizabeth Windsor (Queen Elizabeth II of England) is in the know and is intimately involved in the swirling and fissiparous covert power plays.”

      RedMann, Ane comments on that?

      P.S. RedMann, for more information google “SLUSH FUND ACCOUNTS”.
      Good luck.

    • Kevin Rouchell

      The global elitists are, to name just a few, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Goldman Sachs, Al Gore, George Soros, Henry Kissinger, David Rockefeller, Jeffrey Immelt, Michael Bloomberg, Ted Turner, Queen Beatrix,…

      • Kate8

        Kevin – Yes, but those are only the names which are known to the public.

        There are also names which we have never heard, and those are the ones who are the true elite of the elite. These are names which are never breathed outside of private chambers.

        BTW, you left out a really big one: Maurice Stong, who is responsible for Agenda 21.

    • Brandon Smith

      @Redman

      Sure. Do Romney and other Neo-Cons exhibit these behaviors and attitudes? Examine them objectively. But don’t just stop with the political party you’ve been conditioned to hate; take a look at your OWN party. How many in the leadership of BOTH parties extol the philosophies I describe? If your party leaders are guilty of the same behavior, then perhaps you should question your party membership, and the system in general…

  • Gary L

    Right now, America’s most dangerous enemy is its own government.

    • http://www.facebook.com/darwan.winkler.3 Darwan Winkler

      and 18% of it’s Citizens.

      • sam1966

        I thought it was the 47% on welfare that reelected the pretender back into office. Here is something showing they are taking away our God-given freedoms with our own money.

        http://www.godfatherpolitics.com/9526/big-brother-buys-end-to-your-freedom-with-your-money/#ixzz2LMj4zPAg

        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

        You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

        “America was founded by people who believed the God was their rock of safety. I recognize we must be cautious in claiming that God is on our side, but I think it’s all right to keep asking if we are on His side.”

        Ronald Reagan

        *We need another Ronald Reagan in office.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

    For some more info on this subject search “Thewatcherfiles” find the article “The 13 Illuminati Satanic Bloodlines” This article is not a conspiracy article, but a biography of the top 13 illuminati (alitist) families. Very educational. If your a patriot, this is good info on your enemy. Like the saying goes “Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer” “Know your enemies before you go to battle” This article isn’t for faint of heart. It can get pretty scary, so be strong.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

    Using the words “Truly Evil People is being polite, Those words don’t descrbe them. Their more then evil, so much more. There’s an article I posted earlier, find it, read it all and you will find out how more then evil they can be. People died getting this stuff on them. It is a must read.

  • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

    Global Elitism: The Character Traits Of Truly Evil People
    February 19, 2013 by Brandon Smith

    The complete analysis of Mr. Brandon ( alinsky-like ) Smith’s bi-weekly offering of “mindless, pointless, self contradictory rhetoric” in our new format, of last in-first out…..at least for us stuck here on the bottom…….his last offering, the brilliant identification of the “common sheeplenicity disorder” which produced these closing thoughts, after days of defensive logical fallacy.

    The problem is that you assumed I was addressing a group of people with my article, when I was in fact addressing a behavior.

    We all have a choice: to be taught by others or to learn for ourselves.

    These statements are noted because 1.) they were the “final thoughts” offered in defense of what was described as “mindless, pointless, self contradictory, rhetoric” when they should have been the first. 2.) While Mr. Smith is in his element….his presentation follows a scripted formula which is carefully structured and disciplined….not only in it’s format but intent……..in that first, there is the language of inclusion…….and then a careful surgical extrication of himself and those who agree with him. ( if you do not agree him, you would be whatever the “chosen target” of his “rhetoric” is ) 3.) It is fully expected that if Mr. Brandon ( alinsky-like ) Smith chooses to respond, he will follow his previous pattern……the first step of which will be to change the subject, so it is necessary to make the attempt to prevent this, by identifying what the subject of THIS CRITICISM is. ( not that it will work, because rhetoric with out logic has no logical defense.)

    Once again, Mr. Brandon (alinsky-like ) Smith, THIS is “mindless, pointless, self contradictory rhetoric”……….preaching to the choir of the “nebulous membership” of “the liberty movement”.

    The first dangerous mistake the average person makes is the assumption that “evil” is a kind of subjective concept. We would love to believe that all destructive and malicious behavior is merely a product of bad environment, bad upbringing or mental psychosis. Deviance in the name of “profit” or “status” is often more acceptable to the public, as long as there is a reason we can easily understand and grasp.
    What frightens the average American today is not the abhorrent action of criminality; rather, it is criminality without rationality. What frightens the common citizen is the possibility that some people hurt others not because their mommy and daddy “mistreated” them or because they have a psychological deficiency, but because they fully and consciously enjoy doing what they do.
    Our society is desperate to make excuses for the monsters of our era, perhaps because we would rather not entertain the possibility that there is a dark side to humanity that, if allowed, could take control in a deliberate and calculated way.
    True to form, we have set the stage with our “inclusive rhetoric” of “average” and a demarcation point regarding “evil”…….the subjective reference being a bit nebulous……since we are “biological creatures” and our brains are subject to “bio chemical influences” which can influence behavior……..but THIS evil is not our target, so even though this demarcation is a bit muddled…..we can move on.
    This is why the greatest crimes of our time often go ignored by the public. The idea, for instance, that international financiers and political elites would purposely create economic disparity, social chaos and global war out of a desire for centralized power and a disturbed sense of superiority is simply too much for many to handle. Surely, these terrible events throughout our modern history are merely the result of random coincidence and human error, right?

    Eureka……we have our TARGET…….and the beginning of our attempted “surgical extrication and language of exclusion”….unfortunately, this too is muddled and general…..which includes a general set of perpetrators ( not identified specifically ) …….combined with a series of effects, and closing with a rhetorical question, which we already know the answer to.

    Unfortunately, this is not the case.

    So, regardless of the rather nebulous and unspecified perpetrators we now have the “conclusion” that our author believes is TRUE. That the following……. ” would purposely create economic disparity, social chaos and global war out of a desire for centralized power and a disturbed sense of superiority is simply too much for many to handle.”

    So, if nothing else, we now know several things………” average people” whom are referenced in the “inclusive” rhetoric are those who can not accept the FACT that……….the effects described are 1.) What Mr. Smith means by “objective evil”. 2.) and they are “deliberately intended”.

    In fact, most catastrophic cultural policies and tragedies can be traced back directly to a subset of people who use their positions of influence for ill purpose and who knowingly engineer calamity not just for personal gain, but also for the gain of their social class.

    an we can now add a few more “identifying characteristics” to this subset of ……”international financiers and political elites”…….to be those of “influence” and memebrs of a “social class”, which is still nebulous, but a little less so………in the sense that it gives us some more material to attempt to determines WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE SPECIFICALLY!

    In the liberty movement, we often refer to members of this group as “globalists” or “elitists.”

    and we have now completed the process of “surgical extrication and exclusion”…….and by doing so have established, rhetorically, the “enlightened visionaries” of inclusion, the “subset” which includes Mr. Brandon ( alinsky-like ) Smith, and the “liberty movement” who believe that the “emphemerally identified subset”…….who share the characteristics noted, are deliberately seeking to cause the listed results, for the list of purposes noted and are objectively EVIL, and are referred to by the further emphemeral “labels” of “globalists” or “elitists.”

    They permeate the upper echelons of our Nation, and they do indeed have a culture that is entirely separate and disparate from our own. If one studies their literature, initiatives and motives, he would discover another world, driven by outlandish goals and an even more outlandish brand of religious fervor. Here are some of the character traits and beliefs that make these people easy to identify.

    I have seen many maps…..I have never seen an echelon map, and a few more “identifying” characteristics have surfaced here……….which seems to suggest that there is a “manual of OBJECTIVE EVIL”, that is available for perusal………….and which our author and the chosen “subset” have seen ( an which maybe he will identify ). Of course, another tool of this “mindless, pointless, meaningless rhetorician” is the LIST of “ephemeral and suggestive traits”.

    Xenofascism

    Anyone know what that means? I looked….and this is the only thing I could find……..from the Urban Dictionary.
    1. xenofascism
    One might consider the definition to be an emphasis of the xenophobic qualities of fascism. It can also be used to descrbe the modern consirvative, anti-immigrant movement across the country alongside a strict authoritarian view of national security that wholly destroys freedom by means of protecting freedom (burn the village to save the village). Prominent xenofascists include conservative commentators such as Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck and Virigina Representative (R-of course) Virgil Goode. Goode flew into a fit of sorts after Muslim Minnesota Representative (D)Keith Ellison chose to use Thomas Jefferson’s Qur’an in his swearing-in to the US House of Representatives. Goode is a staunch supporter of decreasing legal immigration, and he wants to end Diversity Immigrant Visas because they allow an unacceptable number (possibly more than zero) of “non Europeans”, especially those from terrorist states. Virgil Goode is a textbook xenofascist.

    As a purpetrator of xenofascism, Virgil Goode sought to keep muslims out of America while srengthening Domestic sypying programs.

    Now what Brandon means.

    Global elitists tend to see themselves as a separate breed of human being, a superior class with superior faculties, born to rule over the rest of us. In their writings they often espouse the teachings of The Republic by Plato and the concept of the philosopher kings. They believe that some men and women are endowed with a genetic predisposition to leadership and that the average person does not have the intelligence to determine his own destiny. They see the rest of humanity as a blank canvas and themselves as the artists. We are to be molded, and our social dichotomies are to be manipulated.
    In reality, they are no smarter than the rest of us. Rather, they inherit positions of wealth and influence, and they automatically assume this makes them superior. Their ability to mold society is derived entirely from their extensive capital and their complete lack of morality. If they were not in the top .1 percent of the world’s rich, they would be treated like common criminals for their behavior. But sadly, in our day and age, money often buys undue respect. Imagine a group of John Wayne Gacys or Charles Mansons, except with 80 percent of the world’s wealth at their disposal and the means to purchase good publicity and legal immunity. That is essentially what we are dealing with.

    Doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of correspondance with regard to definition……….but our ephemeral points of identification has narrowed a bit…….these OBJECTIVELY EVIL PEOPLE and are in the top .1 percent and control 80% of the worlds wealth………..of course, if they are “globalists”………..the ” xeno ” part of xenofacist seems to be “missing”?
    Rhetoric, the “mindless, pointless, self contradicting” kind….relies on “ethos and pathos” while attemping to avoid “logos” at all costs……..and clearly “undisciplined word usage” with regard to “definition” is both common and to be expected.

    Zero Conscience

    conscience (n.) ………etymology of.

    early 13c., from Old French conscience “conscience, innermost thoughts, desires, intentions; feelings” (12c.), from Latin conscientia “knowledge within oneself, sense of right, a moral sense,” from conscientem (nom. consciens), prp. of conscire “be (mutually) aware,” from com- “with,” or “thoroughly” (see com-) + scire “to know” (see science).

    Probably a loan-translation of Greek syneidesis, literally “with-knowledge.” Sometimes nativized in Old English/Middle English as inwit. Russian also uses a loan-translation, so-vest, “conscience,” literally “with-knowledge.”

    Elitists believe that conscience is a hindrance to success, instead of a worthwhile virtue. They knowingly and deliberately abandon their moral compass because they see it as an unnatural restriction, an obstacle that makes getting what they want more difficult. Conscience, however, never quite disappears in anyone. In order to reconcile their wretched mindset with that distant nagging sensation of guilt, they claim that their actions are “for the greater good of the greater number.” They desperately want to believe that they are serving the future of mankind and that we should appreciate their guiding hand, even though the things they do seem far more hateful than helpful. They would call this “tough love.”

    beginning with the “label” elitist……we introduce more undefined terms……..”success” and “moral compass”……..so whatever success is, it can not be achieved without a “moral compass”……..doesn’t help much, but then it is “pointless rhetoric….so no surprise.

    They further attempt to avoid the fact of their own dysfunction by trying to elicit criminality in others. If they can convince the masses that morality is relative and that right and wrong are subject to interpretation, if they can convince us to ignore our own inner voices which are inborn, then their monstrosity could be considered normal — even preferable. In a world of moral relativists, the man with a conscience becomes the criminal, the outcast; and the elites become the heroes they always wanted to believe themselves to be.

    Well if nothing else, they have achieved complete success, because only Brandon Smith and his subset in the “liberty movement” who know what he is actually talking about, know whom he is talking about. Maybe he will share this……..hope springs eternal.

    Promote Collectivism

    Collectivism is any philosophic, political, religious, economic, or social outlook that emphasizes the interdependence of every human being in a society or civilization. Collectivism is a basic cultural element that exists as the reverse of individualism in human nature (in the same way high context culture exists as the reverse of low context culture). Collectivist orientations stress the importance of cohesion within social groups (such as an “in-group”, in what specific context it is defined) and in some cases, the priority of group goals over individual goals.

    Top globalists are not necessarily collectivists themselves. In fact, they often swing far to the other end of the spectrum into an aberrant form of individualism. As discussed above, they even see conscience as a restriction on their personal freedom and rebel against it as if rebelling against enslavement. What they do not grasp is that the inherent nature of conscience is a gift, one which has, so far, kept humanity away from the brink of total self-destruction, at least to this point. It is not a prison. Rather, it is protection from ourselves.

    In the world of “mindless rhetoric” Mr Brandon ( alinsky-like ) Smith seems to have completely lost it……….this week “collectivism” is good, and “aberrant individualism” is bad………switching our label to “top globalists” to start us off………and switching to conscience, almost immediately.

    The elitist’s insane ideal of pure individualism without self-discipline is a private matter they rarely discuss. In public, they constantly promote the collectivist lifestyle and admonish individualism in common people. If people can be convinced that they are devoid of inherent qualities and characteristics and that their environment is the totality of their existence, then they will hand over all power to anyone who promises them the best possible surroundings. That is to say, when we have no faith in our own individualism and self-responsibility, we will automatically seek protection, usually from a nanny government or dictatorship.

    or a HAVEN in Montana………in any case…..civilization, society, etc. is what we have…….and which evolved from “smaller groups”, which also had a “collective self interest” that was “primary”…….to both “survival and continuation” of the species. Mr Smith seems to have a problem grasping or admitting this TRUTH……..which is why this subtopic of Promoting Collectivism…..isn’t dealing with ‘collectivism’ at least not yet.

    People often confuse “collectivism” with “community.” This is caused by a lack of understanding as well as a lack of experience.

    and there it is. Mr. Smith, it would seem has his OWN definition of “collectivism” and the “distinctions” here are CRITICAL….as it pertains to the “rhetoric”.

    Community is a voluntary gathering of individuals for the purpose of mutual aid. Collectivism is the gathering of people by threat of force or loss, for the purpose of consolidating power into the hands of a few.

    This, it would seem is a very unique understanding of “collectivism” that had been offered earlier as a “general definition”. I wonder why, this defenition seems so vehemently opposed to the “general one”?

    It is the act of destroying individualism in the name of protecting the group. In America today, we have disappearing sense of community, while the “advantages” of collectivism are being sung to the rooftops by global elites.

    So to keep up with Brandon, the “objectively evil”, promote a special version “collectivism” which hasn’t nothing to do with “group welfare” because it is a “forced group”, promoted by “individuals”, to stifle “individualism”……….by a group of “global elites” ( double label ) acting in an organized manner. ( as a group of individuals )

    The Noble Lie

    This one is going to take a bit of explaining, since it is distinctly possible that some might find this “reference” a bit obscure.

    In “The Republic,” Plato described a city whose inhabitant were organized into categories: The Rulers, Auxiliaries, Farmers, etc. The Rulers, he said, would be chosen from the military elite (called Guardians) because they were good at shepherding and caring for the interest of the community. The Auxiliaries would be Guardians in training.

    The Rulers, Plato said, must tell the people of the city “The Noble Lie“–that the categories of Rules, Auxiliaries, Farmers, etc. was not due to circumstances within the people’s control, upbringing, or education, but because of God’s intervention. God, the Lie went, had put gold, silver, and iron into each person’s soul, and those metals determined where a person’s station was in life was.

    The Rulers told the people of the city that if their own children were found with bronze or iron in their soul, the child would drop down the ranks accordingly. And if a farmer’s child was born with gold in his soul, he would rise up to the Guardian level. The Rulers also said, people had different metals in their bloodstream, and therefore could not intermarry.

    The Lie is necessary, Plato argues, in order to keep a stable social structure. In Plato’s mind, The Noble Lie is a religious lie that’s fed to the masses to keep them under control and happy with their situation in life.

    Plato did not believe most people were smart enough to look after their own and society’s best interest. The few smart people of the world needed to lead the rest of the flock, Plato said. And The Noble Lie had to continue.

    What Brandon means is anybody’s guess, but he did make reference to Plato…….not that there are not other choices, like the movie? re: Oklahoma City 1995…….etc. but let us see if we can figure it out.

    Elitists are very adamant about the idea of the noble lie, the use of a lie to attain a positive goal. In their view, average citizens lack the capacity to understand the bigger political and social picture; so we must be lied to in order to make us do what is best for ourselves. Of course, their version of what is best for our culture always seems to include first and foremost what is best for them.

    The noble lie is a logical fallacy of epic proportions, and I often wonder if global elitists secretly doubt its legitimacy. If you need to lie to people in order to get them to accept your ideas, then there must be something terribly wrong with your ideas. Ideas with vitality and honesty do not need to be “sold” to the public through chicanery; the truth takes on a life of its own. Only destructive philosophies need a foundation of lies in order to take root.

    What do we make of this……….? Does not the TRUTH rest on a foundation? So far this piece consists of a lot of ephemeral labels and characterizations which are for the most part unspecified and ill defined, so much so that only Mr. Brandon ( alinsky-like ) Smith and the so called “liberty movement” have any clue, what he means.

    Population Reduction

    One of the centerpieces of the globalist religion is the concept of population reduction. They not only see themselves as a separate species with superior genetic makeup and a propensity for rulership, they also see the rest of us as cockroaches and “useless eaters,” a herd that needs to be culled. The funny thing about population reductionists is that they always want other people to die in order to save the planet. They never offer their own life as a sacrifice for the greater good. This is because they assume they are too important (ostensibly because they think they are intelligent), while many of us are expendable.

    Actually, this is pretty much Malthusian Reality, which while interupted by the “industrial revolution” made possible by discovery of stored ‘sunlight’ in the form of hydro-carbon based fuels whose abundance appears to have been slightly miscalculated and whose effects are just recently surfacing, and not without considerable resistence from those “global elitists” who Mr. Smith may be referring too, but maybe not………….

    Of course, overpopulation today is an oversold myth that has been disproven in many scientific circles. Population expansion is also not necessarily a bad thing. Greater population means more minds working on more problems. It drives technological advancement and forces us through the survival imperative to invent more efficient methods of production. There are advantages to growth.

    Well we either have a problem or we don’t, and while the technological fallacy has been used to deny the Malthusian Reality, greater population, as a solution seems like a reliance on probability to produce “intelligence” of a kind which we as a species, are not designed for…..it can not be “inherited”, it must be learned…..and if we can not teach it to those that are already here……we are not going to achieve it by sexual reproduction.

    In the end, though, global elites do not care about the Earth.

    That seems like another qualifer…..for the label…….which remains UNSPECIFIED.

    They do not believe in population reduction because they want to reduce pollution or the so-called “carbon footprint,” save the poor animals, or even protect finite resources.

    Okay……..

    They want population reduction because first, they are eugenicists who see some people as genetically inferior to others, and second, because a culled population is easier to dominate.

    Okay………but wouldn’t this increase labor costs for them among the “competing” inferiors……because there will be less of them……and it doesn’t appear that we can kill them fast enough, even deliberately? Not to mention the fact that the “plutocrats” ( my defined target ) have already shifted all the costs onto the “peons”, from survival to the “possibility” of actually achieving “intelligence”……why would they care at all………since from what I can tell, for the “global elitists” there are no problems?

    Again, fewer minds working means fewer problems solved and fewer individuals to rock the boat when the state abuses its power.

    Again, the problem with mindless, pointless, self contradictory rhetoric……is that it doesn’t say anything……..what problems need to be solved? How does a Haven in Montana, a voluntary group of individuals….isolated from society, armed to the teeth, with seeds and silver, solve them…….ain’t even any “boat rocking” in that strategy….nor much of an indication of “minds” of any kind?

    The Source Of Our Pain

    Globalists are not the only source of our social pain. We bear some responsibility. When we are not vigilant, when we deny our own ignorance and refuse to learn, when we lie to ourselves and when we cater to personal superficial desires rather than taking the future into account, we open the door for the devil. Evil, like conscience, resides in us all.

    Does Brandon really mean we? Previous criticism of his RHETORIC have produced clear evidence, that he does NOT!!!!

    That said, global elites are not just randomly terrible people. They have constructed an entire culture of deviance. They are organized evil, and this is a problem we must deal with soon. Good men are defined not only by their adherence to the inner voice of truth, but also by their willingness to act when the truth is threatened. We must educate others and, when the time comes, put ourselves in harm’s way to remove the globalist ilk before they destroy everything in a raging elitist fervor.

    –Brandon Smith

    Once again, hiding in Montana, his GOAL, ( see bio, website, etc.) will have as much effect as the rest of his mindless, pointless, self-contradictory rhetoric. It is plagiarized Ayn Rand, without the talent, resources or intelligence…….and by the time this is posted, many will have acclaimed his writing skills and intelligence…..other will have seen this for what it is……absolute self promotional crap…….so far Mr. Brandon ( alinsky-like ) Smith has failed to respond……..which shows that he MAY be capable of learning………we shall see.

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

      Galt, I’m afraid what Mr. Smith had to say on this subject is more accurate then your rederric(sp). Why don’t you go to the site I gave earlier and read it all, and then tell Mr. Brandon Smith he’s full of it.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        But he had NOTHING to say on the subject……and he used a lot of words to do it.

        My words were required to make that clear to the “mushrooms” who normally
        inhabit this site and who share Mr. Brandon ( alinsky-like ) Smith’s willfully
        ignorant, functional illiteracy and to make it impossible for him to respond,
        without continuing to demonstrate the obvious nature of his condition.

        Clearly, you have no intelligent rebuttal on his behalf, as do none of those
        who were also “compelled” to respond, but since you did anyway, you have
        made your “condition”, also quite clear.

      • Brandon Smith

        @Julie

        Galt is your grade-B typical disinformation troll. He writes long winded responses filled with tangents and misdirections. He calls them “arguments”, but in reality, his entire post boils down to a bunch of regurgitated Ad Hominem attacks and some generalized opinions that he never backs with tangible evidence. Notice he never actually comes out for or against the behaviors and philosophies I outline in the piece. Rather, he pretends as if such philosophies and the people who adhere to them “don’t exist”, so that he never has to take a solid position.

        I mean really read his post. Don’t just skim over it and forget it like I’m sure most people do, and count the generalizations and character attacks. Ask yourself “does this response have any substance to it whatsoever?” At least this time he’s trying to quote from the dictionary, which gives him the APPEARANCE of struggling to present a legitimate point.

        What’s most interesting is that every fault he attempts to attribute to me is one that he clearly suffers from himself. Either that, or he is paid to troll this site day and night and disrupt honest conversation (which is the most logical explanation of his schizophrenic behavior).

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        Brandon Smith LOVES TO LABEL OTHERS AS, MENTALLY-IMPAIRED. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH, “GALT.”

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Brandon Smith says: February 19, 2013 at 7:20 pm
        @Julie
        We will note that Brandon (alinisky-like) Smith is not responding to me. Raise your hand if you are capable of folliwing along.

        Galt is your grade-B typical disinformation troll.

        Is he now……?

        He writes long winded responses filled with tangents and misdirections.

        The response was long only for the reasons stated to Julie, which was to permit you no room to escape. Raise your hand if you can follow along.

        He calls them “arguments”, but in reality, his entire post boils down to a bunch of regurgitated Ad Hominem attacks and some generalized opinions that he never backs with tangible evidence.

        The response was directed at exposing your pointless, mindless, self contradictory rhetoric, which was the stated reason for the last article you posted, and the one before that and this one……one can not argue with mindless rhetoric…..there is no need to argue with mindless rhetoric. You seem to still be missing this…because you are a “willfully ignorant, functional illiterate” which is a statement of fact, not an ad hominem attack…….you have no “logos”….you do NOT know what a logical fallacy is! I will be happy to repeat my earlier instruction, AGAIN, after I have completed THIS response.

        Notice he never actually comes out for or against the behaviors and philosophies I outline in the piece.

        Actually most of whatever you think you mean, was taken to task, demonstrating that you have no CLUE what you mean….you use ephemeral descriptions, to talk about “plutocrats”…because the only characteristic that you identify is WEALTH, but you have to hide behind global elitists, and xenofacism….which doesn’t fit with “global”….you talk about collective……but then present a definition which is unique to you…..you outline nothing…..you are a delusional pretentious childe. Nothing more!!!!!

        Rather, he pretends as if such philosophies and the people who adhere to them “don’t exist”, so that he never has to take a solid position.

        Once again I am not here to take a solid position, although “plutocrats” is pretty solid……you want names, Gates, Buffet, Blankfien, Dimon, Koch, etc. You want companies, Wal Mart, Exxon, BP, Mobil, etc. I am here to expose your mindless rhetoric!!!!!

        I mean really read his post. Don’t just skim over it and forget it like I’m sure most people do, and count the generalizations and character attacks. Ask yourself “does this response have any substance to it whatsoever?” At least this time he’s trying to quote from the dictionary, which gives him the APPEARANCE of struggling to present a legitimate point.

        But to do that that she would have to read over yours which is quoted word for word……and everything I said,is in response to what you said….you cited generalizations……..your words are the subject of the definitions and quotes……..to demonstrate that you are an “idiot”!
        Yes, Julie READ carefully…….see NOTHING more clearly that you’ve EVER seen it before.

        What’s most interesting is that every fault he attempts to attribute to me is one that he clearly suffers from himself.

        Except that whatever Brandon is talking about, he can’t be bothered to “identify”. I didn’t have a problem.

        Either that, or he is paid to troll this site day and night and disrupt honest conversation (which is the most logical explanation of his schizophrenic behavior).

        Wow talk about CERTAINTY……son nobody needs to pay me to do this……….this is light exercise, which I can repeat on any website, on any topic, at will……..this is not hard for the truly intelligent…..now if you want solutions……yup, you have to pay me for that. I won’t hold my breath…..this is kinda like a NIKE thing and you’ll know it when you see it. Doesn’t really matter, I’m not out to hurt anyone and I really don’t care what you think.

        Just so this is not a total loss, Brandon, as much as you suck at what you do…..you may be the only authentic author on this site…….I believe that YOU believe what you are saying………but being an ostrich in Montana is not a solution…….it may be yours, but you don’t have to waste time talking about things you don’t understand or have no clue about. Talk about what you know…….talk about what YOU are trying to DO, for yourself and those like minded people you are desperately searching for……..make any sense? We shall see …….in two weeks.

        Thank you for not using alinsky like…..of course you weren’t responding to me, but you didn’t use. That’s something.

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

        Brandon, Galt reminds me of the mind controlled people that are being use to give the public disinformation and discredit any one you is out to warn the public with the truth. This has been going on since the 1930′s and 40′s. Disney was one of the first to use it in entertainment to help control the populous through mind control within his cartoons and other family shows.. He and other entertainment mongols used mind control on all their actors and actresses, that made it big, to make them do what ever they wanted. They are still doing it today. These people are part of the illuminati, and are in the eye of the pyramid.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Dear Julie, The problem with “willfully ignorant, functional illiterates” is that they
        are “willfully ignorant, functional illiterates”…………….

        Kate thinks he is a journalist, and you think he is warning you about something.

        Simple enough to prove either……….if there were evidence for it……..please
        feel feel to quote any part of Brandon’s article, the does either one or both
        of those things?????????

        Take your time, these posts never die, and you have 12 days until Brandon
        posts his next journalistic warning……….

        If you do actually decide to make the attempt………when reading “mindless,
        pointless, self contradictory, rhetoric………….you should pay attention to
        the “self contradictory” part………although this analysis has been done for
        you………if you do quote something, be careful to check it.

        You have already been warned about being a “willfully ignorant,
        functional illiterate”……….but further proof is always appreciated.

    • FreedomFighter

      OMG you are so full of it Galt

      Laus Deo
      Semper FI

      • Kate8

        GALT – Those long-winded posts take too long to scroll past. Please try to be more concise. Too many words, too little substance.

      • Jana

        YES!!!

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Well Kate, when this author ceases to post mindless, pointless, self contradictory
        rhetoric, I will not have to use any words, to be certain it has been exposed.

        Don’t worry, his next offering is not for two weeks……..although why it would
        bother you to have to scroll past ” his exposure” seems a little strange……
        why would some one be concerned about comments to mindless rhetoric,
        except those challenging it for what it is?

        Then again, for those of you who “live” here, distinguishing “mindless rhetoric”
        could be challenging………because you very rarely offered anything else, so
        how could you possibly tell the difference.

      • Kate8

        GALT – Brandon Smith has become one of my favorite journalists… (along with John Rappaport). And I happen to agree very much with his stance on things.

        You, on the other hand, tend to be long-winded, convoluted, and self-aggrandizing. Reading through your efflusive rhetoric is exhausting and mind-bending, not to mention non-productive.

        If you don’t like Mr. Smith’s point of view, then why appoint yourself to critique his work? Obviously you ideologically disagree with him on most everything. So be it. Go elsewhere. But don’t demean others because we disagree with YOU.

        There are others of us who are of the same or similar perceptions, and do well appreciate the authenticity of his writing. He is not afraid to tell the truth as he sees it.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        I do it because I feel like it. I do it because I can. I do it because you all
        are “willfully ignorant, functional illiterates” and because as long as you
        continue to insist on being that, you are dangerous, to yourselves and me.

        I do it because I don’t care what you think, of me and from what I can tell
        much of anything else……..the only redeeming quality you hold in my eyes
        is that I believe you do not seek to harm others, and that you have
        compassion for them, and trust me on this site that is NOT common.

        I do not require your approval and I am not here seeking it, yours or
        anyone else’s………my philosophy is complete, my moral compass is
        set, and I am on a journey whose purpose and destination is clearly
        defined and will not be influenced by your opinion or anyone elses,
        because you have no clue what I am about.

        I do not care who your favorites are, here, you can not help them or
        save them from me……..what does not kill them will make them stronger,
        or shut them up…….be interesting to see how that turns out….don’t
        you think? Do you think?

      • Kate8

        GALT – Once again, you prove the obvious. You are a legend in your own mind, full of yourself, have an over-inflated ego and worship at the alter of your soul-less and bestial intellect.

        I don’t care that you don’t care, because I don’t care, either!

        It is also obvious that you post here just to impress yourSELF, because you certainly don’t impress anyone else. But then, the foolish are full of bluster and never miss an opportunity to prove themselves so.

        I do feel pity for you, GALT. You seem fairly miserable and unhappy, being so caught up in your world of self-delusion. Of course, there are those who thrive on misery, and wouldn’t be happy without it. So, knock yourself out with my blessing. And yes, I do realize that you don’t require it.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Kate, you may assume whatever you need to assume to maintain your ignorance,
        protect your illusions, and justify your inaction………after all you believe in a past
        that never was, a present which you do not understand and have even less control,
        and a future whose shape is hopeless.

        Clearly such a world requires a journalist like Brandon Smith……..after
        all, in his world…….words have no meaning either.

      • Kate8

        GALT – Oh, so now the ultimate arrogance. You presume to know what it is that I believe.

        You are a real piece of work.

        You know, GALT, the surest sign of a fool is arrogance, self-importance, self-delusion. Pride always goeth before a fall.

        You aren’t capable of beginning to understand what I hold inside of me, or of how much I know. The truth is, for seekers of Truth, the more we learn the more we realize we do not know, and it is very humbling.

        You, on the other hand, think you know it all. Of course, this is a clear indication that you are a mere babe, and have a whole lot to learn. One day this world of illusion will crumble for you, and then it will be revealed what you are really made of.

        The very fact that you hold things like compassion to be of dubious value at best is a real clue.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Kate8 says: February 21, 2013 at 11:25 am
        GALT – Oh, so now the ultimate arrogance. You presume to know what it is that I believe. You are a real piece of work.

        You believe Brandon Smith is a journalist. You share his rather uninformed view of human evolution and the type or reasoning it employs, because WE have had that discussion. It’s on file, want to see it? On the other hand, you have claimed to know a lot about me, and I have said here, you may assume whatever you need to assume, to protect your illusions. Functional illiterates are not good at comprehending what they read, that is the meaning of the definition.

        You know, GALT, the surest sign of a fool is arrogance, self-importance, self-delusion. Pride always goeth before a fall.

        You aren’t capable of beginning to understand what I hold inside of me, or of how much I know. The truth is, for seekers of Truth, the more we learn the more we realize we do not know, and it is very humbling.

        So be humble……..of course, if that’s “humility”, it seems to be based on the suggested rhetoric, that I am not, rather than, that you are. If you know what you don’t know, how do you know that what I know, is not the TRUTH? You certainly have enough solid examples to choose from, over the time I have been posting here……..and the sources that support them………although I doubt, you have bothered to read a single book…..but please feel free to correct me and cite the ones you HAVE READ?

        You, on the other hand, think you know it all. Of course, this is a clear indication that you are a mere babe, and have a whole lot to learn. One day this world of illusion will crumble for you, and then it will be revealed what you are really made of.

        I thought you already knew that? Isn’t that what you have been suggesting with these mindless rhetorical responses which you seemed compelled to continue, and that say nothing?

        The very fact that you hold things like compassion to be of dubious value at best is a real clue.

        “the only redeeming quality you hold in my eyes is that I believe you do not seek to harm others, and that you have compassion for them, and trust me on this site that is NOT common.”

        Thank for closing with another example of your functional illiteracy.

        REDEEMING: serving to offset or compensate for a defect

        DUBIOUS:
        1 : giving rise to uncertainty: as
        a : of doubtful promise or outcome
        b : questionable or suspect as to true nature or quality
        2 : unsettled in opinion : doubtful

        These words are not synonyms and for this site, constitute high praise indeed……of course, had you been paying attention to the exchanges between me and your favorite “journalist”, my philosophy has been simply stated, as being derived from the single, universal unalienable right you do have, and a moral code which is based on First, do no harm………and you are free to disagree or challenge the TRUTH of that, anytime you like.

        The problem with the “willfully ignorant, functional illiterate”, is that they believe they see things that are not there because they want or need to believe they are………..it is a correctable condition and you may begin at any time.

        So was it good for YOU, Kate? If not, you should probably stop now………

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        MA’AM, YOU AGREE WITH, Mr. Smith, BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE IN IMAGINARY CHAOS AND FABLED “EVIL-DOERS.” [Remember, "Kate8" (MA'AM), you told me we have nothing in common. That is because I understand and deal with the harsh realities of life].

    • Blow

      GALT, you seem to put a lot of effort into tearing down the wisdom and insights of others but you have very little in the way of positive or original input.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        What “wisdom” or “insight” might you be referring to?

        There was NOTHING to tear down……and you may start whatever remedial
        course of study you require, so that if you actually have the occasion to come
        across any wisdom or insight, you will be capable of recognizing it.

        You will certainly not find it in venues such as this, but you might find this
        potentially enlightening.

        http://www.supremelaw.org/authors/freeman/freeman4.htm

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

        Galt, that site you posted is a good site, but I’m afraid the very people that Brandon is speaking of have taken that away. I suggest you go to this site and read it, and read it all, and fell free to research anything that is stated in it. http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/The_13_Illuminati_Satanic_bloodline by Fritz Springmeier
        Get educated, they don’t teach this in history class in school.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Julie, that site has accompanied my posting here for as long as I have been
        posting here. It has been used in responses to almost everyone of the so called
        “featured” contributor’s here, including the “owner” of this site, and my posts
        here are directed specifically at the writer’s of these articles, not those that
        respond to “the articles”, unless they are compelled to confront me directly.

        While I thank you for the link, you need to understand that, I have used the “facts”
        that are available in the article to link, to avoid all fees, fines and taxes, beginning
        in the late seventies to the present, employing the UCC reservation of rights, in conjunction with 26 CFR 31.3402 (p ), Article 1, section ten, and specially constructed
        promissary notes, and have not filed an income tax return, since 1982.

        All of these tools have been offered here by me, for free, on a regular basis,
        but they were particularly useful, when the “ephemeral members of the
        liberty movement” were hallucinating at the prospect of a Ron Paul,
        presidency……along with his trusty sidekick, Judge Napolitano.

        Given that this site, pays constant lip service to the ‘constitution’, the
        declaration, and the wisdom of the founders, ( imaginary ) it is ultimately
        ironic, that none of the “featured writers” here………nor the above “dream
        ticket”….nor any of the “tea tipsy party”, seems to have noticed that
        “there are no common law and equity courts”…….and none of them, has
        ever acknowledged this information, or responded to that question.

        Yet, the mantra of the “liberty ( patriot ) movement”, is “this is unconstitutional”
        and “that is unconstitutional”……….which is false, a distraction, and ultimately
        a waste of time……..which brings us to the notion of “integrity” and the
        true purpose of this site……

        Because, the TRUTH, regarding this information rests on two key points.

        1.) Every single individual in this country has the means to free themselves
        from whatever tyranny they believe exists, immediately without any assistance
        from anyone else…….simply by employing the tools intelligently, based
        on whatever their personal circumstances happen to be. Of course, there
        is a catch………you MUST do this, yourself. You must stand alone and
        face the “consequences”…..what ever they happen to be. ( and the
        imagined terrors produce all manner of excuses……but the most
        expedient way, is simply to ignore the information……..keep babbling
        about the “constitution” in ignorance……and expect the “equally
        ignorant”…….to save them.

        The REALITY here is, there are no consequences…….when I began, I
        was “quite confrontational” with regard to authority, didn’t really know
        what I was doing………but I had two things going for me. One I was
        not a “criminal”….except in the sense of defying this “authority”, and
        secondly………even though I technically did not have all the information
        I needed……..the questions that were being raised, presented all manner
        of problems, especially for judges…..so it became a matter of “risk”, because
        all they had to gain, was a “few dollars”, versus all manner of “complications”,
        that potentially exist, from “trials” and “appeals”…..especially the latter, so
        that even though I didn’t get it right……the risk, didn’t justify the reward.
        ( this will not be a problem for anyone who acts on this information now,
        because it is complete, and you can pick your spots to test it….which is
        to say that you can “unvolunteer”…and remove yourself from admiralty/
        maritime and the UCC, one step at a time…..until you are confident that
        it WORKS.)

        2.) The second part of the REALITY here, is that there is no way to
        PROFIT from this information………it is not particularly complicated,
        and once you have it, the only thing that remains is to act on it.
        The “legal system” that exists, requires “attorneys” to be licensed to
        practice…….in various ( geographical ) jurisdictions. By doing this,
        these “licensed attorneys” are required to operate under the
        “rules of evidence and procedure” of what is referred to as
        “statutory jurisdiction” which prevents them from even raising
        any of this in court on behalf of their “clients”. ( to do so would
        find them cited for contempt and removed ) What they have not
        been able to do, is prevent you from acting as your “own counsel”,
        although they takes great pains to discourage this. Ignorance
        and fear, does the rest……..

        But what are we to make of a site, which spends so much time pretending
        to care about the “constitution”, yet continues to ignore the most
        direct path to its “restoration”? Indeed, what do we make of candidates,
        one having served multiple times as a member of the House of
        Representatives………and a state supreme court JUDGE, who
        seemingly have missed the fact that “common law and equity courts”
        are no longer available, Federally since 1938, and in the several
        states since 1960? Is this credible…….?

        For the “writer’s” here……this is easily explained…….they are here for
        “business”……and even Brandon Smith has an “agenda”……..but there is
        no money to be made from this……where as if you had this information,
        their rhetoric would no longer matter, in fact……..it would be clear,
        that all this “rhetoric was pointless”……..”full of sound and fury, signifying
        nothing.” Now they do have an interest in the possibility of higher taxes,
        since they are not poor…….nor unemployed, and unless sweating over a
        “hot keyboard” is your idea of “hard work”, they are not that either.

        So they point you here and they point you there and everyday you all come
        and follow right along, commend them for their insight and wisdom,
        when all you really represent is a potential customer, for whatever
        happens to be for sale………but this is something that YOU need to
        recognize for yourself. I have made no secret of this.

        But there is another question, that is also very important……..restoring
        the “constitution” means “restoring common law”………….and that
        operates on a very basic principle……….crime requires actual victims
        or actual harm……….as well as, a few other things, lurking in the “common
        law and equity” aspects of the “constitution” which will also need to
        be addressed………….of course, this doesn’t really matter now,
        since the TRUTH regarding the “constitution” has yet to be addressed.

        “He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the
        past, controls the future.”

        “To conquer, first DIVIDE!” ( and then hang, separately )

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        BTW Julie, they don’t teach much of anything in history class……on the other
        hand, your link isn’t much use, either…..because it doesn’t go anywhere….
        although it does have a weird 404 error message…..

        Still, I am not unfamiliar with that material and every other supposedly
        “organized plot”……..the general rule of thumb regarding these things,
        is similar to the one regarding “secrets”……..the one that goes “the only way
        three people can keep a secret…………..?

        This may be also useful to think about: “The winners write history, temporarily.”
        and there is a lot of new history becoming available……..

        If you like some new ( recent ) history, I would suggest

        Black 9/11……Money, Motive and Technology; Mark H. Gaffney

        One does not have to struggle with “global elitists” or other vague references,
        all the suspects are NAMED……but this is actually “journalism” and “history”…..

        You may, of course, feel free to curse me, if it does not live up to what
        I have just said…….

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

        Galt I don’t have a problem getting on that site. That 404 hasn’t popped up on me. I don’t know what is wrong, or why you can’t get it. If you can get it, it has a lot of history in those biographies. Did you try refreshing when you get that 404. One of the other people here, told me to ask you to see if that worked.

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

        Galt, When the constitution was being drafted Admiralty Law/Maritime Law were used to protect the public, but in the last few president’s terms they used it up. The supreme court, one is no longer allowed trial by jury, nor a trial in some cases. Which is unconstitutional.

        He who controls the money, controls the people, which has affected the past, is affecting the present, and will affect the future if it isn’t stopped.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Okay, I will try the refresh thing and get back to you.

        As for admiralty/maritime, you are still missing the point……..so you might want
        to read the link again, plus do some searches for UCC 1-207/308 Reservation
        of Rights, and the other UCC statutes.

        The reason you are subject to admiralty/maritime…….is because of
        “implied consent”,…….since you have failed to reserve your “rights”
        as required by the UCC, you are considered to have “volunteered” to be
        subject to this “jurisdiction”………and there are “no rights” in admiralty and
        maritime………you have “benefits, privileges and immunities”.

        In “criminal cases”, the distinctions are “subtle”, so rights, seems to fit…
        but these are subject to change…….Patriot Act etc.

        Evidence abounds…..are legal documents, forms, bills, etc you are identified
        as JULIE, no Julie……..your state is a two letter abbreviation with out
        punctuation…….and the UCC was adopted in it’s entirety, by every
        state……..except Louisiana……..

        Prior to 1960, Federal Reserve Notes, were “redeemable in lawful money”
        at any Federal Reserve Bank……after 1960 this pretense was no longer
        needed…….so you have “legal tender”, which is a benefit you get, in
        admiralty/maritime……….”law money of account”, used to be available
        in 31 USC 371……I used when I was starting out, as a simple promissary
        note…….but it is no longer available……

        This is all a carefully engineered, sleight of hand, which assumes your consent,
        because you have not indicated otherwise, and how could you, since
        you were unaware you were required to “reserve your rights”……in order
        to access them……”so now you are stuck with “benefits, privileges, and immunities”.

        It takes a while to wrap your head around, but it isn’t all that hard….and
        you don’t need to understand the why of it…..only how it works.

        Here is another piece of the puzzle……..what is called an
        “implimenting regulation”……… a statute without it, can be ignored…..
        but if you do not know this…….then the statute has power, because
        you “believe” it does…………watch carefully:

        26 CFR

        § 31.3402(p)-1

        Voluntary withholding agreements.

        (a) In general. An employee and his employer may enter into an agreement under section 3402(b) to provide for the withholding of income tax upon payments of amounts described in paragraph (b)(1) of § 31.3401(a)-3, made after December 31, 1970. An agreement may be entered into under this section only with respect to amounts which are includible in the gross income of the employee under section 61, and must be applicable to all such amounts paid by the employer to the employee. The amount to be withheld pursuant to an agreement under section 3402(p) shall be determined under the rules contained in section 3402 and the regulations thereunder. See § 31.3405(c)-1, Q&A-3 concerning agreements to have more than 20-percent Federal income tax withheld from eligible rollover distributions within the meaning of section 402.

        (b) Form and duration of agreement. (1) Except as provided in subdivision (ii) of this subparagraph, an employee who desires to enter into an agreement under section 3402(p) shall furnish his employer with Form W-4 (withholding exemption certificate) executed in accordance with the provisions of section 3402(f) and the regulations thereunder. The furnishing of such Form W-4 shall constitute a request for withholding.

        (ii) In the case of an employee who desires to enter into an agreement under section 3402(p) with his employer, if the employee performs services (in addition to those to be the subject of the agreement) the remuneration for which is subject to mandatory income tax withholding by such employer, or if the employee wishes to specify that the agreement terminate on a specific date, the employee shall furnish the employer with a request for withholding which shall be signed by the employee, and shall contain—

        (a) The name, address, and social security number of the employee making the request,

        (b) The name and address of the employer,

        (c) A statement that the employee desires withholding of Federal income tax, and applicable, of qualified State individual income tax (see paragraph (d)(3)(i) of § 301.6361-1 of this chapter (Regulations on Procedures and Administration)), and

        (d) If the employee desires that the agreement terminate on a specific date, the date of termination of the agreement.

        If accepted by the employer as provided in subdivision (iii) of this subparagraph, the request shall be attached to, and constitute part of, the employee’s Form W-4. An employee who furnishes his employer a request for withholding under this subdivision shall also furnish such employer with Form W-4 if such employee does not already have a Form W-4 in effect with such employer.

        (iii) No request for withholding under section 3402(p) shall be effective as an agreement between an employer and an employee until the employer accepts the request by commencing to withhold from the amounts with respect to which the request was made.

        (2) An agreement under section 3402 (p) shall be effective for such period as the employer and employee mutually agree upon. However, either the employer or the employee may terminate the agreement prior to the end of such period by furnishing a signed written notice to the other. Unless the employer and employee agree to an earlier termination date, the notice shall be effective with respect to the first payment of an amount in respect of which the agreement is in effect which is made on or after the first “status determination date” (January 1, May 1, July 1, and October 1 of each year) that occurs at least 30 days after the date on which the notice is furnished. If the employee executes a new Form W-4, the request upon which an agreement under section 3402 (p) is based shall be attached to, and constitute a part of, such new Form W-4.

        (86 Stat. 944, 26 U.S.C. 6364 ; 68A Stat. 917, 26 U.S.C. 7805 )
        [T.D. 7096, 36 FR 5216, Mar. 18, 1971, as amended by T.D. 7577, 43 FR 59359, Dec. 20, 1978; T.D. 8619, 60 FR 49215, Sept. 22, 1995]

        This is the “regulation” for the statute 26 USC 3402

        You can read it on line……see any difference between what the statute implies
        ( which is pages and pages long ) and this simple “regulation”…..

        When was the last time any “employer” gave you the impression that they
        were waiting for your request…..or considering whether or not to accept it?

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Okay, I cut the back of the link off…..and got to the main site……found what
        you were referring to……..will take a look, when time permits…..

      • Walt

        Blow,

        You, Kate8 and others seem to spend an inordinate amount of effort and energy responding to Galt’s comments. I would humbly suggest that you cease to offer him an opportunity to respond by simply ignoring him and his non-sensical comments. He is either a “leftist troll” as some of you suggest, or he is mentally unstable and seeks some manner of justification for his miserable existance stirring up the sh*t on this type of format.

        Seriously, just ignore him and don’t keep responding to his comments.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Yes Walt, they do look rather foolish attempting to respond, like you
        do……..it’s a compulsion.Which is pretty stupid when all you have is
        “leftist troll”……..have absolutely no way to substantiate your “assertion”
        but lack the self control, to recognize that when you have nothing to
        say, it’s best to say nothing.

        Which was actually the point of this exercise……the third time for Brandon.

        Are you a fast learner? We shall see……..

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        THANK YOU, “GALT!” [24 FEBRUARY; 3:46 AM],

        I AM TIRED OF PEOPLE CALLING OTHERS “trolls,” SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY ARE UNABLE TO REPLY IN A MANNER WHICH INDICATES COMPREHENSION.

      • Kevin

        Galt……Affidavit of reservation of rights UCC 1-308/1-207
        You Now have my attention……….. any Helpful Direction in the same Vein will be appreciated.

    • Kay

      Too longwinded. Perhaps, as they say, the dog that yelps is the one that got hit.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Sound bite wisdom from a sound bite mind……thanks for your input.

      • Brandon Smith

        Yes, he does seem to be yelping quite a bit. His feelings do appear to be consistently hurt by my articles. I wonder why that is….?

      • http://personalliberty Alondra

        Brandon, he is just one of 3575 cyber ‘warriors’ of the Kenyan Usurper.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=BbGjGn-zlG4

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Brandon, did you do a word count…….did it take me more words to expose you
        for what you are, than it did for you to make it possible?

        You are amusement, nothing more.

        “He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past,
        controls the future.”

    • sam1966

      Sheesh! A long, drawn out, full of rhetoric, innuendo, lies, and hate. You seem to miss the mark on many of the subjects. Here is something showing how Mexico wants us to share the info on gun registrations.

      http://www.independentsentinal.com/2013/02/mexico-wants-us-to-register-guns-give-them-the-registry/

      Now this could be part of their plan to help bring down America. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot. This leaves you out.

      “A patriot must be a religious man.”

      Thomas Jefferson

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

        So true Sam, so true. I like reading your post.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Yup, ole sammy is a master wordsmith…….a mesmerist, extrodinaire!

        A captivating quipper, and erudite elucidator, a cogent quotidian……

        I could go on, but that would be redundant.

        Better to just sign off with his signature line……”That leaves you out.”

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “GALT” – YOU HAD ME WHEN YOU BEGAN TO QUOTE, Old French.

      • Kate8

        LOL. And there we have it. A pair made in heaven. (Or would that be h*ll?)

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,” MA’AM, WHAT ABOUT THE “TAG-TEAM” YOU HAVE GOING WITH, “Alondra?”

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,” MA’AM, WHEN DID Y-O-U BECOME SUCH A “PRUDE,” THAT YOU CAN NOT TYPE-OUT THE WORD, “hell?” [Remember, "Kate8," you told me in early January - when our relationship began to decay - that you can take whatever is "dished-out;" (sic), you are not, fragile].

      • Kate8

        Well, Christopher, if you consider refraining from vulgarity being a “prude”, then I guess I would be just that in your eyes.

        In any case, we do have filters on these blogs, and one never knows what they will censor.

        Too many people today think it’s cool to use obscene and offensive speech. I am not one of them. I think it shows just how base and crude humanity has become, and I know why. This kind of mentality is being promoted all over the media, because the PTB are reducing us to little more than animals. In fact, animals have far more class than many people.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Kate8,”

        AS ALWAYS, IT IS GREAT TO HEAR FROM YOU, MA’AM.

        I MUST BE FRANK. RECENTLY, IN ANOTHER THREAD, YOU CALLED The Bush Family [sic], “NAZIS.” SO “Kate8, MA’AM, WOULD Y-O-U SAY YOU TYPED VILE AND ANIMALISTIC LANGUAGE AGAINST THE FAMILY OF MY BELOVED AND AMERICA’S GREATEST STATESMAN, President George Herbert Walker Bush?

      • Kate8

        No, Christopher. It was a simple statement of documented fact.

        If the truth hurts your illusions, that is not my problem.

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

      Galt, I also do a lot of research. When it comes to rhetoric, you top the list. You accuse Brandon of having Alinsky style of thinking. Alinsky had more of a communistic thinking. Brandon has more of a patriot thinking. What I get out of Brandon’s article, is that he’s trying to bring into the light what is secretly going on behind the scenes. The elitist, whom own and control all the main media and entertainment, has done their job on you. They pinned what they were doing on the people whom was trying to warn the public what the elitist were doing. Conspiracy is an elitist word to describe them (the elitist) and they turned it around an pinned it on the people who are trying to stop them, and you swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Definition of conspiracy: 1) a conspiring, especially in an unlawful or harmful plot. 2. such a plot. 3. the group taking part in such a plot. 4. a combining or working together: as, the conspiracy of events. This is just what the elitist are doing. Mr. Smith is not conspiring in an unlawful way nor is he trying to harm anyone. He is trying to inform the people to whom the real conspires are, the elitist. You call your self a journalist. If you were a journalist you would have done your research on all those people that are considered elists, the families of the richest people in the world. Why don’t you track their family trees, do a biography on them. Their trees go back thousands of years. Study the history throughout Europe and the Middle East. Go clear back to Noah’s time. You can start with the people that secretly designed the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, and all the politicians behind it. If you need some more references to search what happened in history. The Bible is a good history book. Read it along with what was happening (the history) within those countries at the time those things were happening. If you understand what you read, you will find that all those families (the elitist) are not christians. You are not a Christian if you worship satan. True Christians worship God. The elitist worship satan. Satan has ruled the world for 6000 years, and has his followers, whom help deceive the people, These satanic helpers are the elites. All the evidence is in the history of the Bible and the history of those countries. Satan has been on this earth for 6000 years, and when you get done with your research you will know who he is. Hint he is a live today, he is in his med to late 20′s. If you’ve done your research correctly you too will know who it is.

      You say Mr. Smith goes after the people that don’t go along with what he”s says. Mr. Gult, you are a hypocrit, for you say he does it when you are doing it. Any one that criticizes you, you go after them.

      As far as your long speeches, I think you like to hear yourself talk. Your so lite on your rhetoric you’ve floated out to space, why don’t you come back down to earth.

      Galt, quite skimming the surface and dig underneath it.

      I’m not going to argue with you, so don’t even try, just do some research, and dig deep.
      You have a good life.

      • robbiefine@hotmail.com

        Who created Satin?

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

        Robbie, do your own research, that is how you learn. I would like to live the rest of my life.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Julie says: February 22, 2013 at 1:15 pm
        Galt, I also do a lot of research.

        Good to know. Let’s see if that is true?

        When it comes to rhetoric, you top the list.

        Let’s see if that IS true, also?

        You accuse Brandon of having Alinsky style of thinking.

        No I did not. For the purposes of my response here, I address him as Mr Brandon (alinsky-like) Smith. To understand why, you would have had to have done your research. You were directed as to how to do it. You did NOT do it.

        Alinsky had more of a communistic thinking. Brandon has more of a patriot thinking.

        Define communistic. Define patriotic. Are they mutually exclusive? Until you do define what you mean, that is rhetoric. But I am sure, that you believe, that there are PEOPLE who know exactly what you mean, and you are probably right, and THAT IS RHETORIC.

        What I get out of Brandon’s article, is that he’s trying to bring into the light what is secretly going on behind the scenes.

        Is he? I just see “mindless, pointless, self contradictory, rhetoric”! Which I examined line by line, word for word, definition by definition, and it doesn’t say anything…………what did you see?

        The elitist, whom own and control all the main media and entertainment, has done their job on you.

        Really? Who would they be? What job have they done? Brandon didn’t say. You haven’t said, that is RHETORIC!

        They pinned what they were doing on the people whom was trying to warn the public what the elitist were doing.

        Was that supposed to make sense. Because I am very confused………that is what RHETORIC does………without facts, one strives to persuade by “ethos and pathos”………it is not an appeal to intellect……..it seeks to indict by emotion and common circumstance.

        Conspiracy is an elitist word to describe them (the elitist) and they turned it around an pinned it on the people who are trying to stop them, and you swallowed it hook, line and sinker.

        If you say so. I don’t see any proof of any of that……so it looks suspiciously like RHETORIC!

        Definition of conspiracy: 1) a conspiring, especially in an unlawful or harmful plot. 2. such a plot. 3. the group taking part in such a plot. 4. a combining or working together: as, the conspiracy of events.

        Definition of conspiracy
        noun (plural conspiracies)
        a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful:
        a conspiracy to destroy the government
        the action of plotting or conspiring:

        Did you have a point?

        This is just what the elitist are doing. Mr. Smith is not conspiring in an unlawful way nor is he trying to harm anyone.

        Really? Actually he does seem to be conspiring in regards to barter transactions, as well as being misinformed and/or misleading about the LAW concerning them. I have chided him a bit for it, but I have no objection to it……..after all we have a “corrupted governemnt” operating under admiralty/ maritime which relies on FRAUD and the ignorance of the PEOPLE. Problem IS…….if you do not know this, and get caught…….there are consequences. Seems rather foolish to me, when actual KNOWLEDGE can avoid these complications, but this could just be me?

        He is trying to inform the people to whom the real conspires are, the elitist.

        Wow…..thank you Julie……now that I know that it is the “elitist” I am so much better informed…….our crops are saved.

        You call your self a journalist.

        Did I? I must have missed it. Did you have a quote? I did imply that Brandon was not a journalist, but only because someone else stated that he was. But lets check it out. Who? The “global, xenofacist, faux collectivist , non conscience, RICH, elitist, conspirators”! What? Conspiring for the purposes of a collaborated sheme of “objective evil”? When? Why now of course, you dummy. Where? Why here of course, and everywhere else. Why? Because they’re RICH..and they want to stay that way…..how STUPID can you be? How? By conspiring you idiot. Everybody KNOWS this….you are really stupid.

        So did I get that right, journalistically speaking?

        If you were a journalist you would have done your research on all those people that are considered elists, the families of the richest people in the world. Why don’t you track their family trees, do a biography on them. Their trees go back thousands of years.

        I know I saw your link……

        Study the history throughout Europe and the Middle East. Go clear back to Noah’s time.

        I have……..this is probably going to come as a shock to you, but Noah is not a big draw, historically speaking.

        You can start with the people that secretly designed the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, and all the politicians behind it.

        I could and have, but whatever you believe, they had effectively been contained by 1945.

        If you need some more references to search what happened in history. The Bible is a good history book.

        No it is not. But it does explain why jewish people (hebrews) have a heightened sense of irony and humor, than most others.

        Read it along with what was happening (the history) within those countries at the time those things were happening. If you understand what you read, you will find that all those families (the elitist) are not christians.

        Really? All in the bible? I have read it………I read your link regarding “bloodlines”….none of THEM are in the Bible.

        You are not a Christian if you worship satan.

        Point being?

        True Christians worship God.

        Which one?

        The elitist worship satan.

        Okay………?

        Satan has ruled the world for 6000 years, and has his followers, whom help deceive the people, These satanic helpers are the elites.

        Really? We have been here for 195,000 years…….what were God and Satan doing for the other 189,000?

        All the evidence is in the history of the Bible and the history of those countries. Satan has been on this earth for 6000 years, and when you get done with your research you will know who he is. Hint he is a live today, he is in his med to late 20′s. If you’ve done your research correctly you too will know who it is.

        Now that sounds like Brandon Smith. Those satanists can be tricky? In the spirit of “good journalism” why don’t you just tell us?

        You say Mr. Smith goes after the people that don’t go along with what he”s says.

        Well he has been a bit “sensitive” to criticism, and he is addressing “mushrooms”, this is the third time……so there is an indication THAT he may be “learning”…………and he has you as a FAN, which may help more than you know. I actually like Brandon…….he has spirit and a sense of morality and justice, and the exuberance of youth. Intelligence is also a possibilty here…….I am, if nothing else, patient and persistent. So we shall see what we shall see.

        Mr. Gult, you are a hypocrit, for you say he does it when you are doing it. Any one that criticizes you, you go after them.

        That’s what he said……..that is the sad part about “willfully ignorant, functional illiteracy”……..it’s like being “comatose”, you never know when anyone is actually going to wake UP, so you keep talking, and hope that they hear you…….

        As far as your long speeches, I think you like to hear yourself talk. Your so lite on your rhetoric you’ve floated out to space, why don’t you come back down to earth.

        Damn, I do feel really exposed now….and if wasn’t for you and Brandon……I probably would have missed this whole “elitist” conspiracy thing……………

        Galt, quite skimming the surface and dig underneath it.

        Okay…..

        I’m not going to argue with you, so don’t even try, just do some research, and dig deep.
        You have a good life.

        You don’t know how relieved I am, that you are NOT going to argue with me…….Brandon, pay attention to your FANS.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        robbie, I didn’t mean to ignore your question……even though it wasn’t addressed to me.

        My best guess would be, the guy that couldn’t afford “silk”?

        After that, I got nothing.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “GALT,” SIR, YOU ARE “R-E-D H-O-T, ‘X’ MARKS-THE-SPOT,” IN THIS THREAD! [I was not going to comment on the "satin" typo; this is not my first time seeing the "satin typo" in reference to "Satan." In the subconscious, these people have the ability to identify "paper tigers"].

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        Just trying to lighten the mood, Chris…….

      • Charlie

        robbiefine,,,,
        Check out Isaiah 45 and you will find that God created all that is,,,but,,, you are the one that will have to harmonize Scripture to arrive at “”Truth”"……………Meanwhile………….
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R. Fine

          I suggest YOU check out the Sermon on the Mount. Read it really slowly and get its meaning.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Don’t forget to feed Pluto ,and check out ALL of Matthew 5……………………………………

  • FreedomFighter

    That said, global elites are not just randomly terrible people. They have constructed an entire culture of deviance. They are organized evil, and this is a problem we must deal with soon.

    These elites are also setting up a system of oppression using robots…think drones, because real people refrain from outright murder:

    Its no longer sci-fi…

    The harmful and deadly potential of Drones is obvious even with conventional weapons such as missiles, tasers, shotguns, machine guns and various gas delivery systems is well known from war experience in both Iraq, Afghanistan, and other military missions, but what about near future weapons platforms?

    Consider drones equipped with a laser or microwave weapon, maybe a plasma cannon or single direction EMP beam generator, a sonic weapon, or harmonic frequency weapon, HUNTER SEEKER BULLETS, does this sound like Sci-Fi?

    It’s not Sci-Fi, these weapons exist are in development or already or being deployed now. The problem with most when it comes to drones is a size issue or power requirements issue, in time, quickly really these weapons will shrink in size, and power requirement like all other electronics have, and we will have a fleet of robotic flying and ground based nightmares prowling the skies and streets of America.

    Pinpoint laser strikes for assassination, no collateral damage – our government seems to love that, microwave crowd control burning demonstrators or rioters with microwave beams and herding them to the waiting military or police paddy wagon. A little to much energy on those microwave guns and you get crisped, blinded or just plain cooked alive.

    The laser or microwave gun keeps firing until the drone runs out of fuel or lands – unlimited ammo. Sonic weapons that can disable humans in seconds or kill, EMP weapons that are directional and disable a single car or street block of cars-easy pickings’ for a drone missile. Now think nerve gas, tear gas or any other gas can be delivered by drone, also biological.

    Drones are the deadly weapons now with just guns and missiles, in a few years they will become the weapons of Sci-Fi nightmares:

    KEEP DRONES OUT OF AMERICAN SKIES – ROBOTIC WAR MACHINES ARE FOR WAR NOT USE ON AMERICANS IN AMERICA

    Laus Deo
    Semper FI

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “FreedomFighter” – GREAT COMMENTS. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE FOR DRONES.

      • http://laurencetribe@yahoo.com Laurence Tribe

        In addition to political and economic control the socialist power elite want “eye in the sky” discovery and response to any challenge to their authority, a high tech augmentation to uniformed, automatic weapons armed “protecters” in the streets.

    • Kate8

      FF – It’s amazing how so few people are aware of these things, or refuse to believe they actually exist.

      Consider also that these foreign wars have been partially in preparation for war here in the US. There are some who will “do their job” even if it is against what is moral, as we all know. Otherwise, there are plenty of foreign troops around the world who have a big ax to grind against the people of America for their participation in horrendous crimes against humanity.

      We have to wonder just who is actually behind the taking down of the banks, the Vatican and DC (I think the Pope is a patsy, just like other patsies. The real criminals are behind the scenes and continue on as usual, just as with the banks and government.) Are these good guys, or are they the same old controllers getting ready to erect their NWO out of the ashes?

      Time will tell, but as far as weaponry, it gets worse. They have something called “Project Bluebrain” where they are working for total mind control of everyone, right down to reading our every thought and arresting people for “pre-crime”. These plans are already underway.

      This definitely ain’t Kansas anymore, Toto.

      • moonbeam

        “They have something called “Project Bluebrain””

        Then We The People must develop a “Project Blowback” that directs and bounces this “mind beam” right back to it’s original source and blows that source back to hell where it came from and belongs.

        I guarantee that the Project Bluebrain will only work on mindless sheeple. Looks like mad scientist liberals are making a weapon against themselves – being the mindless sheeple they are. Wouldn’t that be something when they push the button to turn that thing on, only to result in a BIG BACKFIRE! Sweet!

        Stranger things have happened.

      • Kate8

        moonbeam – I agree. There will always be those who are not affected by mind-control, but first of all we must know that it exists.

        Did you ever have one of those games which asked a few questions and then read your mind? Pretty eerie… Those were just primitive trials for this stuff, to introduce us to the possibilities….

        Scripture does say that the wicked will be trapped in their own snares. I hope I’m around to see it.

    • sam1966

      I know what you mean. I saw some of them while fighting in the Middle East. I never saw them take out any targets, but I know their capabilities. To use these on Americans by our own government, is murder, treason, and is about the same as the purges committed by Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Mihn, and Kim Il Sung. Of course, all of these listed were atheists and did not believe in God and Jesus. I guess this is why Thomas Jefferson was very much against them. Here is something showing their Muslim allies killing Christians for no reason. But this time, it is in Dearbornistan, Michigan.

      http://www.freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/dearnorn-muslim-using-facebook-to-call-for-the-killing-of-anti-islam-protesters/

      When they talk about the Beast in Revelations 13, it could be the nation of Islam. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise. In this sense and to this extent, our civilizations and our institutions are emphatically Christian.”

      Illinois Supreme Court
      Richmond vs. Moore 1883

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

        Sam, I think they are talking about the Illuminati, the eye on the pyramid, in Revelation 13.

        I was reading a interview of a Conadian Journalist whom fled to Japan, and who’s life was threaten by the Rockefeller’s for trying to expose them. He is being protected by a secret society. He said that the American people need to stand up and fight for their freedoms that have been taken. He said we need to look at the back of out $ bill, and go after the eye of the pyramid. He said most of the ones below that are being forced into following them, or don’t know what the top is doing. He says once the Americans wake up and start taking back their country, they will have help. He said that their are around 100,000 special ops, that are ninja trained. He said they are waiting for the American people to start to wake up, and once they do, and start taking back their country, they will be there to help.

  • rita crawford

    evil does exist. The media are always asking why people do crazy things. What a waste of time and energy.

  • Nelson

    What are your sources, Mr. Smith? I can understand the mentality you propagate in this essay, but I don’t understand how sombody would or could know some of the things you espouse. For instance: who can we trace these economic desparities back to and how do you know that these people are causing them on purpose? I’m not asking why you think this, I’m asking how you know. Do you have any empirical data to support your propaganda or just dry rhetoric? I assume the ladder, because otherwise you would have provided the evidence already and would not have rellied on people being stupid and just believing you.

    • Brandon Smith

      @Nelson

      You are welcome to read the hundreds of articles I’ve written on the subject and educate yourself further. This article is meant to explore the philosophies of globalists, not give a book length accounting of every piece of evidence surrounding their activities. For that, you need to use a little thing called “google”. Try it sometime….

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        And Nelson, when you do attempt to decipher, Mr. Brandon Smith’s pointless
        rhetoric by verifying his use of words, their definition and/or etymology, his
        philosophical claims……….or any other aspect of his assertions, please remember
        that doing so, even with proof of his sophistry…..will always be met with
        the “whimpering” claim of an ad hominem attack……even though, he has no
        more understanding of logical argument or intelligent reasoning, than he does
        of anything else……….

        BTW Brandon while you seem to be on the verge of a major intellectual
        break through and may soon be able to actually use the word “plutocrat”
        instead of these ephemeral and suggestive labels which border on
        “cowardice”, you will then be able to proceed to the next bit of
        intelligent reasoning………..

        1.) The plutocrat is not to be confused with the whores in government, who
        they can buy at will…….to further their individuals ends, maintaining their
        position by protecting the source of their wealth, by eliminating competition
        and any other threat to it, by any means necessary.

        2.) Plutocrats ARE individuals and their interests are as diverse as that
        of any other group, when their interests align with others, temporary
        co-operation is possible but these relationships are as fragile, as they would
        be in any other group.

        3.) What you are observing, and claim as “objective evil” united for a common
        purpose, is actually the “chaos” of disparate interests, pursuing their own perceived
        self interest………secure in the knowledge that, the only way they
        will ever be “removed” from the position they have, is if they are
        1.) specifically identified. 2.) isolated from others who share the same
        status. 3.) Cited directly and linked precisely to the harm they are causing.
        4.) Held to account for that harm and removed finally from the picture, insuring
        that they will never be able to regain that status in the future.

        Each time you post one these pieces of mindless rhetoric which alludes to
        organized, plots, conspiracies, or agendas using such terms as globalists,
        elitists, etc………you serve as an unwitting TOOL, which leaves them
        comfortably unidentified and detached from whatever vaguely insinuated
        harm you believe them to be the cause of.

        As such, you are not a solution to the problem, you are part of
        it………a victim, blaming the “behavior” of other “victims” and their
        ephemeral oppressors………all for the purpose of promoting your
        agenda………..which will only matter when you actually succeed….
        because when you do……if I understand your goal correctly, you
        will have removed yourself ( and your group ) from the economy
        which supports their continuation. Unfortunately, as you are finding
        out, this is much easier said than done.

        Since it is clear to me that you have no grasp of REALITY, or anything
        that has contributed to it…….I urge you NOT to contribute to the
        “general ignorance” of victims such as yourself……by contributing to
        the “chaos” which simply assures that it will continue………

        You can promote your agenda, without contributing to the problem,
        in fact your choice to walk away……rather than contribute to the
        economic support is by itself a courageous act……..and the challenges
        you face in doing so……….should be a source of all the material you
        will ever need to write………

        There are many who are locked in by circumstance, inextricably bound
        by survival requirements…..into the very system, which is killing them,
        exploiting them and will dispose of them, whenever it is convenient,
        but because they believe they have no way out, and they exist in
        an environment which had made it clear, that if they do walk away,
        they will be labeled parasites…….they continue on the present path,
        and hold opinions which favors their place in the food change, and
        their means of survival……….

        We the people….is a collective statement.

        All men are created equal…..is a collective statement.

        Promote the general welfare…….is a collective statement.

        A more perfect union………is a collective statement.

        Do unto others………is a collective statement.

        Be part of the “solution”, Brandon………be INSPIRING!!!!!!!!

    • Howard C

      Google Georgia Guidestones if you want to know what these people are about.

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

      Nelson, here is your evidence, and if you don’t believe any of it fell free to research any and all of it. Search: http://www.the watcherfiles.com/the_13_Illuminati_Satanic_Bloodlines by Fritz Springmeier And yes these people that research this stuff risk their lives to do it. So if you decide to also research it, you’ve been prewarned.

  • Kate8

    Is anyone but me having trouble with this new format?

    Everytime I try to post a comment it bounces all over the place, and I always have to scroll around to find where I left off.

    It’s getting to be far more trouble that it’s worth.

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      There is a new “We The People” Petition on the White House Web:

      WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:

      Lower the precedence of the new Distinguished Warfare Medal
      The Pentagon is introducing a new medal to recognize the service of pilots of unmanned drones during combat operations. This medal will be placed in precedence order just below the Distinguished Flying Cross and just above a Bronze Star Medal. Bronze Stars are commonly awarded with a Valor device in recognition of a soldier’s service in the heat of combat while on the ground in the theater of operation. Under no circumstance should a medal that is designed to honor a pilot, that is controlling a drone via remote control, thousands of miles away from the theater of operation, rank above a medal that involves a soldier being in the line of fire on the ground. THIS IS AN INJUSTICE TO THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED AND RISKED THEIR LIVES and this should not be allowed to move forward as planned.

      https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/lower-precedence-new-distinguished-warfare-medal/5KdnkBBN

      Please pass on to all your e-mail contacts.

    • eddie47d

      Yes Kate 8 that’s the way it is. Isn’t change wonderful? Have a good one!

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “Kate8,” MA’AM, I AGREE. I HATE THE NEW FORMAT.

    • Jana

      It isn’t user friendly, that’s for sure.

    • sam1966

      Greetings fellow patriot. It is good to see you on this thread. I always enjoy reading your posts, though sometimes I don’t have time to answer them. I also an having trouble with the new format, but this can change in the future. As my father used to say in the navy, “Stand by for heavy rolls while ship is coming about.” Here is another lie, told by the powers that be, that has been exposed about bin Laden.

      http://www.rt.com/news/osama-body-wikileaks-stratfor-949/

      I knew this was a lie. Now let’s see what Obama bin Laden and his Bilderberg buddies do to cover this up. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! 하나님하고 나라를 위해서!

      You need both love of country and faith in God to be a patriot.

      “Liberty and Union, one and inseparable, now and forever and exclaim Christ first, our country next!”

      Andrew Johnson

      • Jana

        Woe Woe and WOW!!!
        I always wondered why they pulled such a fast one, and I actually believe this.
        Thanks for sharing.

    • http://personalliberty Alondra

      Kate, did you hear on the national news that a muslem murdered two Coptic Egyptian Christian men here, in America in New Jersey. He beheaded them and cut off their hands. I am sure you did NOT.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=M8Kz78IaGE4#!

      • Kate8

        Alondra – Yes, I did. Believe me, I read everything you read. In fact, I read everything on a very wide variety of sources.

        And, I neither believe nor disbelieve any of it. Most of it is disinfo.

    • Texas Ride

      Kate8, I don’t like it either. It is very annoying and I don’t read what facebook groupies have to say.

  • Don 2
  • http://omanuel.wordpress.com/about omanuel

    We would be celebrating the 540th birthday of Nicolaus Copernicus today, if his discovery of the fountain of energy at the center of the Solar System and his accurate report that “the distance from the Earth to the Sun is imperceptible in comparison with the height of the firmament” . . .

    http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2013/02/19/happy-birthday-nicolaus-copernicus-is-540-today/

    Had not been distorted into government propaganda that Earth’s climate and mankind’s fate are independent of the Sun – the Creator, Destroyer and Sustainer of all lives and worlds in the Solar System.

    With kind regards,
    - Oliver K. Manuel
    Former NASA Principal
    Investigator for Apollo
    http://www.omatumr.com
    http://omanuel.wordpress.com

  • Howard C

    Christopher Allen Horton, You sir are a complete and utter JACKA$S. Do you have any clue how stupid and ubsurd you appear through your ridiculous posts??? Honestly, you are INSANE!!

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      “Howard C,”

      I UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT. I AM NOT, INSANE; BUT, I DO HAVE AN ATYPICAL MIND.

      • TS

        Howard C. You are both incredibly narrow minded, and a perfect example of lifelong submission to manipulation and conditioning. This article is an incredibly articulate summary of what has been transgressing for the better part of this century, if not longer. Thank you to the author.

    • Howard C

      TS, I was not talking to the author of this article I was speaking to CAH. I agree that this is a good article and I completely agree with it. Scroll down and read some of the BS that this man has spewed through his posts. I believe that this between you and me is a misunderstanding. I also give thanks to the author.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Howard C,”

        YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND “TS’s” COMMENTARY – HE IS AGREEING WITH YOU. OUT-OF POLITENESS, HE DID NOT WANT TO INSULT ME, DIRECTLY.

        AND, Y-O-U THINK I AM INSANE.

  • Karmanetics

    This article is a great first draft. Although I would be inclined to refine it with the writing process. Gait makes some good points. I actually think that he/she mostly agrees with the author, but is blinded by his/her academic creed. Mr. Smith pay attention to your appeal when writing academically or seudo academically. General ideas are good starting points such as public consensus, but these must be wove with that pesky empirical evidence that Gait brought up. (I’m not saying you don’t have it, but it would be worth presenting) Good article first I’ve read by yourself, I agree with your thought process, clean up your writing though so the comments section can have a healthier discussion.

    • http://www.booksbyoliver.com OhioRiver

      At first, I thought you were just too picky on his writing skills, but I see that you are most helpful though I still think the article is well written. If it needed fine tuning, speaking as a common man, I didn’t notice. Still, your guidance is appreciated I’m sure.

      • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

        You are absolutely correct……….as a piece of “mindless, pointless, self contradictory
        rhetoric”……..it is PERFECT………it can not possibly be improved.

    • Peter

      I’m sorry Karmanetics, but if you’re going to criticize someone’s writing style, surely you should proof-read your own writing to exclude spelling and grammatical errors, two of which are extremely prominent I’m afraid.

  • AWKingsley

    The New World Order is now making every effort to discredit attacks against it as being merely conspiracy theory. The fact is that Willis Carto began exposing the New World Order in his Spotlight Newsletter back in the 1950s or early 1960s. Carto started his newsletter in 1955. My father was reading the Spotlight to me as bedtime stories when I was a little older. One of the primary things I remember from those reading sessions is that Bush #41 was head of the Tri-Lateral Commission.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com Julie

    Darl Kretsinger, on Facebook, very good and true. More people need to research the elitist, and take a stand to defend our liberties. It’s us against them, good against evil.

  • podunk

    “Just for the “hell” of it’” works for most of them. – that’s what they do.
    Elitists are why communism is supported by victims, except “elitists” run Communism too & it gives useful idiots the opportunity to go through hell twice instead of once & it also doubles elitist entertainment time,

  • Russ

    You just described George Bush Jr and the Jewish elite which have a monopoly on all things

    • robbiefine@hotmail.com

      Is Obama not tied in with the Jewish elite as well? And is their monopoly on all things world wide or just in America?

  • http://basque2222@gmail.com Mel Laraway

    Those individuals claiming the existance of a so-called “Jewish elite” are playing right into the hands of the Islamic conspiracy against this country and all other non – Muslim countries. The Muslim Brotherhood and their associates are burrowing deeply into our Government and those of other countries, and this Administration is the greatest ennabler of Islamist conquest ever. The elitists think that they can use Islam as a tool to aid in their destruction of our republic, but they are sorely mistaken; the Islamists will win in the end.

    Islamic propaganda, as old as Muhammad, has demonized the Jews and has corrupted all it has come into contact with.

    • http://gravatar.com/plfprime GALT

      A case in point………Mr. Brandon ( alinsky-like ) Smith, mushroom feeder and
      the master of “mindless, pointless, self contradictory rhetoric.”

      Brandon alludes…..the mushrooms ASSUME.

      Brandon didn’t identify a single “global elitist” or much of anything else BUT

      One sees the Koch Brother’s.

      One sees the “current administration”.

      One sees the illuminati.

      One sees the jews.

      One sees the islamists.

      One sees the mainstream media.

      One sees satanic bloodlines.

      and on, and on, and on……..

      and Brandon is brilliant, until someone points out he hasn’t said anything.

      Which prompts the question, how did you all manage to hear those things?

      That was a rhetorical question!!!!!!!

    • http://edward321.wordpress.com edward321

      “The Muslim Brotherhood and their associates are burrowing deeply into our Government and those of other countries, and this Administration is the greatest ennabler of Islamist conquest ever.”

      You can say the same for the Christian Right in this country. Islam is just a convenient boogeyman for the Elite to fool sheeple like you.

    • Charlie

      Mel,,,
      Read ,Revelations 2:9 and 3:9., spoken by King Jesus Christ. Then figure out who those people are today . Then you may understand the word “Jew” as defined by King Jesus Christ , who IS a Bloodline Jew, The Holy Bible gives 3 definitions to the word Jew… Are the people in the so called state of Israel , Bloodline Jews???

      • http://www.facebook.com/desiree.gulliford Des

        Charlie, again, do you even know what you’re talking about? Have you ever even met a Jewish person in your life?

        To be what you call a “bloodline” Jew, one must have Jewish ancestry. Even then, that still is not a qualifying factor. To be considered a Jew, one must also either be raised as a Jew or convert. Even those who are not of Jewish heritage still have the option of conversion. The conversion process can take a year or longer and is overseen by a qualified Rabbi.

        Charlie, you don’t determine who is or isn’t a Jew.

        Your views are very skewed from reality.

      • Charlie

        Des,,,
        Can you prove the Bible wrong regarding King Jesus Christ and / or the Lineage leading up to King Jesus Christ??? Could it be you are just as “brainwashed” as R. Fine, et al???

        • R. Fine

          Charlie, you just don’t get it. You are living in an evangelical fantasy world unable to respond to questions and facts in any sort of logical or organized manner. You have an ingrained set mantra that you harp on over and over again which is not only dumb but stupid. Try answering my factual questions about the Noah flood story. You keep ignoring those facts in the hopes that they will go away but they will not. They will always be there along with the many others about Bible myths and fantasy.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        From the Bible We figured out who you are! is The Holy Bible correct and True??? Is Malachi 1:1—5 correct ??? is the story of Esau and Jacob correct ??? What happened at the tower of Babel ??? Check out suspended animation if you want to know how those animals made the trip on Noah’s boat… ya know?,,,.IF,,,you had a brain you could be a real problem… Don’t forget to feed Pluto…………….

        • R. Fine

          Suspended animation? Wow, that’s a good one I must say. So all those creatures didn’t need any food for 40 days because their animation was suspended. Is that what you are saying? Funny because there is nothing in the Bible story about those animals being in suspended animation so I guess you or – more likely – some evangelist made that up. Mind you there is no such thing as suspended animation but then scientific reality doesn’t count much when the likes of you creates a fantasy on top of a fantasy.

          But you also have not explained how all of those tens of thousands of creatures fit on to that tiny boat. 2 or 7 of every species of animal and bird were on that tiny boat according to the myth. What shall we call that I wonder? How about suspended volume. Yea, that’s it. The volume that animals and birds take up got ‘suspended’ so that tens of thousands of them could fit on a tiny little boat. See, i can make up [expletive deleted] too! Charlie, if you believe any of this nonsense you really do have serious mental issues. Probably in your community this stuff is believed by others so you do not stand out as a fruit cake. You’re probably a Todd Aiken type of guy who thinks that rape can be legitimate and that pregnancy can not happen as a result of being raped and/or that if you do become pregnant from a rape it is actually a gift from god as that other Senate GOP candidate stated.

          I excuse the ancients for writing and believing these myths because they had no knowledge of science and very little understanding of how the natural world works. But for anyone in the 21st. century scientific world to believe in these ancient and prehistoric stupidities is really astounding. Comparing you to Neanderthal Man would be an insult … to the Neanderthals.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,,
        I learned about suspended animation in Hi School Science,,, it’s in the dictionary and it goes along with “”Hibernation”"”… I grew up in the wilds,,,close to God’s Nature,,, and checked out a few things in The Bible while living off “the land”"… Never found anything in Nature in disagreement with God’s Words…………Meanwhile……………………………..
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R. Fine

          So all of the tens of thousands of creatures climbed on to that small boat and suddenly fell asleep for 40 days. Did Noah and his family take a long snooze as well? Maybe with your so-called knowledge of nature you can inform us if all animal species are prone to hibernation. I thought it was mainly some bears. But even if they all DID fall asleep for 40 days I still don’t get how they all fit on board that small boat – 2 and 8 of all species, WOW. Maybe they all get miniaturized to tiny specs. Maybe that’s a part of nature I haven’t heard of yet!

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Your comments indicate there are a whole lot of things you don’t understand or know about The Holy Bible and / or God’s Creation… For example ,,,Noah’s boat trip was much longer than 40 days, and the Bible does NOT give the number of animals that came on board … Also was the closing and sealing of the Ark doors a Miracle of God??? Did the Ark of the Covenant have “Miracle” Powers??? Well how about that??? this word “Ark” means more than one thing… What Covenant was in The Ark ??? Meanwhile………………
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • robbiefine@hotmail.com

          Nice try Charlie but you couldn’t pull it off. First of all the dimensions of Noah’s ark are, in fact, given in the Bible. It was a fairly small boat. True enough the exact number of animals is not noted however 2 of every unclean animal and 8 of every clean animal on earth were on board. Any way you do the math there was one really massive, massive, massive number of animals (and birds) involved and some of those animals were big like elephants and hippos. Of course your only fall back position is that it was a miracle boat whatever that means. Seems when religious sorts can’t face up to reality or logic they start throwing the word “miracle” around. Also I don’t buy that suspended animation nonsense you noted in a previous posting. You seem to think that when all of those hoards of animals and birds came on board that they didn’t need any food because they all went in to some kind of deep sleep for the duration of the voyage. Charlie, not only does the Bible not mention ‘suspended animation’ but that idea is just plain dumb anyway. By the way how far did you go in school?

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,,
        I’ve been to school for about 20+ years just learning that about 99% of American white males are “brainwashed” regarding a number of happenings in The Holy Bible,,.,yet the Truth is right there in The Bible,,,IF,,, one can decipher it ……………………………….

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Ever take a bath in sea water ? Maybe Jonah went into suspended animation while in the fishes belly ,,,no big deal ,,, IF?,,, one believes in The Miracle Power of King Jesus as written in The Holy Bible of The Almighty God… BUT,,, your god is the Devil, who has duped , deceived your mind………………………….. Meanwhile……………………………..
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • robbiefine@hotmail.com

          Well, Charlie, I spent time swimming (actually just floating) in the Dead Sea which is about as salty as water can get. Have you done that? Anyway I did not go in to a state of suspended animation as you call it. actually I think suspended animation is just something you or someone else has made up. What the heck is it anyway? Besides Johna was not only in salt water but he was swallowed by a fish and spent several days in the belly of that fish presumably drowning and getting digested. But you just think it was as possible as stubbing your toe and feeling better later!

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Are you into Political Science ??? why was Ernst Zundel taken POW by the jews ???

        • R. Fine

          Zundel was arrested, tried, and convicted of hate speech by the Canadian government. Subsequently he was arrested, tried and convicted in Germany for promoting Nazi ideology which is a crime over there. As far as I know “Jews” didn’t have all that much to do with it except to be happy to see a hater behind bars. In any case when GERMANY itself goes after a neo-Nazi you have to admit there’s a lot to the case. But then if one has neo Nazi tendencies or hates Jews you probably feel sorry for Zundel. Are you a neo Nazi by any chance?

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        You need to define the word” Neo Nazi “, how about just “Nazi”,,,I’m at least half German by bloodline. Does that make Me a Nazi??? BTW!!! Ernst Zundel WAS NOT convicted by a “Jury” of his “”Peers”"… That trail in Canada was so much “Canadian Moose drool”,,,and the trial in Germany was double jeopardy and not much better than the neurotic Nuremberg trails… The Zundel case was just another “”Jew”" CRIME against a good German… Ernst Zundel has NO criminal record what so ever… Meanwhile,,,.to win follow The Bloodline Real Jew from The Tribe of Judah……………………………..
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R. Fine

          Zudel was convicted of hate speech which is a crime in Canada. He actually lived not even a mile from where I currently live. He used to strut around in A Nazi uniform with the swaztica arm band and giving the Nazi salute and all of that. He wrote the most vile things and had a web site advocating genocide. After he served his time in Canada Germany got hold of him. In Germany it is illegal to glorify the Nazi philosophy and Zudel was guilty of doing exactly that so he was convicted there too. From the sounds of things you admire that piece of scum. Would I be correct about that? By the way, your precious Jesus was a Jew. You pray to a Jew Charlie. You worship a Jew Charlie. And the first half of your Bible is a Jew Book, Jew laws, Jew stories, Jew ideas. Jew values. And all of Jesus’ deciples were Jews Charlie. Jews. Charlie, it must upset you to be a follower of a Jew. In fact Jesus was “the King of the Jews” remember that? King of the freakn’ Jews and YOU worship and adore him. All you do is talk about him and how great he was and he was a JEW!

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        You forgot to say if I qualify to be a Neo Nazi, and you did not define what a modern day Nazi is ??? King Jesus describes most modern day “jews’ at Revelations 2:9 and 3:9,,,but,,you don’t believe The Bible , so , forget it……………….

        • R. Fine

          I’d say you yourself are the best one qualified to tell us if you are a Nazi or a neo Nazi or whatever. Your statements about Zundel seem to indicate that you are sympathetic to a man who advocated Nazi race policies and who strutted around in a Nazi like uniform and advocated mass murder of the Jewish people. Does this describe you as well?

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        What group of people for at least the last 500 years have proven to be the Superior “Race” on planet earth??? My research indicates it’s The German People in general …
        Name any technical field from the oil fields to Rocket Science and you will find German brain power at The top… Look what a cross breed German named Adolph Hitler did in cleaning up the jew mess in Europe…. The dumb down American / Germans had to be tricked into helping England stop Hitler’s clean up program… Ernst Zundel wrote a book exposing a number of WW2 impropergander Lies , he had first hand knowledge , he was in Germany as a kid during WW2… Could it be the jews punished Ernst Zundel for writing a book exposing The Truth of WW2 as seen from the “Eyes” connected to a German brain power mind.. Ernst Zundel was only a few yards away from Adolph Hitler at times during WW2…………….. Does “Free Speech” exist in Canada ???,,, does “Free Speech” exist in Germany??? What rule of “”Law”"is America under now??? Jews be careful, America is under a Few Real Christians known as The American Militia which is “Commanded” by King Jesus Christ , The Son of The Almighty God… Meanwhile………………………………..
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R. Fine

          Charlie, you are identifying yourself as a fan of Adolph Hitler who is considered as the most evil man in the modern era by just about everyone on the planet. So now I know who you are. You are certainly not a Christian no matter what you claim. And if you protest that evaluation I will remind you (not that you ever knew) that after the Jews Hitler went after Christians and especially Christian clergy who, of course, opposed him. Hitler also replaced images of Jesus with pictures of himself in the churches of Germany. So you – as a fan (supposedly) of Jesus as well as Hitler – have a problem unless being bi-polar is fine by you.

          Now a few other details you may be interested in. Germany certainly is one of the great nations currently. And Germany is now a great ally of Israel which is the Jewish homeland. You may not like the idea that your precious German nation sides with the Jewish state but that’s your problem. Germany has repudiated its Nazi past and has made amends. Germany jails the likes of Zundel who are Nazi throwbacks.

          You might also find it hard accept but most new high tech advances enjoyed all over the world come directly from the Jewish state of ISRAEL. Most modern medical advances which you would encounter in American hospitals come from ISRAEL. You, yes you, owe or will owe a great deal to ISRAEL and JEWS so you had better watch your mouth.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        BIG difference between a bloodline Jew and a Edomite jew,,,King Jesus Christ pointed that out at John 8:35–59… The Bible gives 3 different definitions for the word “Jew”,,,what kind are you ??? With your up front “Gross disrespect” of The Holy Bible and King Jesus Christ ,,,.you are telling Me to be careful mouthing off about the Edomite jews??? Come On!!! We are looking for a chance to prove out more of The Holy Bible… Better check the weapon King Jesus used for His defense,,, see that at John 8:59…IF,,, you don’t understand suspended animation ,,,then you will never understand that weapon… Most American Militiamen only fear The King of The Jews, He is a Bloodline Jew from The Tribe of Judah… What Tribe are you from??? BUT,,,since I am just a low ranking American Militiamen, your hit men may be able to take Me out,,,,BUT!!!,,,then I will be Face to Face with King Jesus,,, then I might beg for His vengeance upon the Edomite jews … See the “Curse” on Edomites at Malachi 1:1–5…………. Meanwhile………………………
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R.F.

          [personal attack has been removed]

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Did not see your last reply,,,say again in more Diplomatic terms…………………………..

  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    RELIGIOUS FANATICISM IS ANOTHER TYPE OF ELITISM.

    • http://edward321.wordpress.com edward321

      Agree. The Christian Right is being played by the Elite class to divert attention from the real issues. What better way to control the sheeple than divide them with trivial issues like gay marriage, abortion, etc.

  • http://edward321.wordpress.com edward321

    Great article … until I came to “Of course, overpopulation today is an oversold myth that has been disproven in many scientific circles. Population expansion is also not necessarily a bad thing. “. Then I realize Brandon may be another Christian Right Winger. Or he is just another typical parochial American who only sees things from the American perspective and thinks he knows everything. Please spend some time in Asia, and you will know overpopulation is not a myth. The earth resources are definitely not infinite, and your Almighty God does not feed your children in some parts of the world – yes, children starve and die of malnutrition in some parts of the world.

    • robbiefine@hotmail.com

      In fact on average 30,000 children die each and every day of starvation and disease in this world. So if God has the control over our pitiful planet we have the truth that He is a mean and nasty and vengeful and actually evil force. 30,000 little kids every day. 30,000! I prefer to think that there is no god. It makes comprehending reality so much easier.

      • http://edward321.wordpress.com edward321

        You are right. We have it easy here in America. We have abundant resources and could possibly absorb another 300 million residents without affecting our standard of living. But if we have a population of 1.4 billion like China (which has a comparable land size as us), the Christian Right and some extreme Liberals will be singing a different tune.

    • Charlie

      IF,,,you nit wit nerd heathens would simply read The Holy Bible,,,you would know it rains on the good AND evil… BUT ,you would also find out that “”Prayer”" changes “”Things”" and with prayer you could find out how to make an umbrella… Then,,,IF,,.you understood 2 Chronicles 7:14 , maybe you could apply it to receiving God’s Blessings,,., But,,, NO,,, you THINK you have become smarter than God in less than a 100 years… Ha a ha ha ha ha han,,,, God is laughing at you because you are jokers on the hi way to hell……………….

    • John

      Yes, folks do starve all around the world, but it is probably not because God does not feed the, but that evil people interefere with the production and distribution of the necessary foodstuffs for those folks’ subsistence. I’ve often heard that the evil leaders of many of these “3rd world” nations intercept shipments of food and medical supplies from wealthy nations (e.g., USA), and either hoard it unto themselves or sell them into the Black Market for their own selfish gain. Don’t ever blame God for the evil that men do.

      • R.F.

        But God created us in His image. Why did He create us to be evil?

      • Charlie

        R.F.,,,
        God set up the program to teach Adam ,man, and his wife Eve to obey His Commands , which was just one at the time… Adam was influenced by Eve of course, she was part of the training … You are under the “curse” of Adam and are just as big a sinner as Adam ever was… The ONLY way to get rid of the curse is with The Salvation of King Jesus Christ… That’s where you have a BIG problem,,,you don’t know King Jesus Christ is the same as God….See that at John 10:30—37………………………………………

        • R. Fine

          Actually I am not a sinner and I am not under any “curse”. You, however, are an idiot living in a delusional state. I do not appreciate your insults although given the source they bother me very little. And lest anyone reading this thinks I am out of line by being insulting as well let me note that I am merely describing Charlie’s mental state.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Read 1 John chapter 2, all of it , it says you are a sinner,,,but,,, IF you don’t believe The Bible??? or God ,then you have a problem worse than sin………………………..

        • R. Fine

          Wow, the Bible says I’m a sinner. I must have missed that part! Still it is an honour to be mentioned in such an important book. In any case you are correct that I do not accept everything in that book. Like that suspended animation nonsense on the ark that you fabricated anyway. And you still refuse to explain how 2 and 8 of all species of animals and birds were able to fit on such a tiny boat. I’ve asked you now 4 times and all you do is repeat the same tired story about sinning etc. Your problem, Charlie, is that you accept TOO much without thinking or posing so much as the most basic question. Oh, and how about getting swallowed by a fish and staying in the fish’s belly for a few days and then coming out in fine shape. How exactly does that jive with what we know about science?

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Yep,,, you’re a sinner and wanna talk about science,,,BUT,,, rejected the science of suspended animation,,,so??? how about talking about Psychology,,, let’s start off with what makes you so stupid???

        • R. Fine

          Seeing as you are such a genius why don’t you explain to us how it was that hundreds of thousands of animals, insects and birds were able to fit on a tiny boat for well over a hundred days and did not have to eat anything. You’re the smart one here supposedly so so you should be able to answer those points very clearly.

      • Charlie

        R. fine,,,
        You said you have been a teacher,,,so,,,you should know that it’s very difficult to teach 12th Grade material to a 3rd grader…. Well,,,your in Bible preschool ,,, NOT to mention that NO ONE can / will understand The God Almighty in this “Dimension”,,,BECAUSE,,,IF,,, they could The God Almighty would not be Almighty… But continue , you are proving what Ernst Zundel said about so called “Jews” and he did not claim to be a “Christian”…
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R. Fine

          Talking about pre school are we? You are so backward that you can not answer the simple questions I have posed about the Flood story. I simply go by what your Bible SAYS and ask questions. Your Bible says that 2 & 7 of every species on earth went on to that tiny boat. And it was a tiny boat. You didn’t even know that the Bible gives the measurements of that boat. You actually don’t know much about the Bible. So I ask you if it is at all possible that hundreds of thousands of animals, insects and birds could possibly fit on a tiny boat and all you can come up with is that I don’t understand stuff. You also said that the flood was local and not worldwide when the Bible notes that the flood covered the world to above the height of the tallest mountains. And I’ve asked you to explain suspended animation but you refuse. You refuse because you don’t know what the heck it is yourself. Something about not having to eat. Oh really? Not having to eat for 150 days and still managing to survive? Are you nuts?

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Go visit your local Library and tell them you are checking on the “Local Flood” issue side of Noah’s Flood… While you are there also check out “Suspended animation” ,,,BUT,,,on the other hand all the above is on the net… Check out Metaphysics to see how far you can go without getting into The Bible… Meanwhile………………………………
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R. Fine

          Why do you continue to refuse to tell us how hundreds and hundreds of thousands of animals, insects, and birds could fit on a tiny boat? Also I wish you would read YOUR Bible especially where YOUR Bible says that the flood covered the earth and where God says that HIS flood would drown EVERYTHING on the earth except those on the boat and that the flood waters could cover the entire earth to above the height of even the highest mountains. You see Charlie if you believe what the BIBLE itself says it is clear that the flood was world wide. Also the contention that hundreds of thousands of animals, insects and birds suddenly did not have to eat for 150+ days is totally at odds with how the natural world operates. You can try as hard as you like to change what YOUR Bible actually says but anyone with a copy of the Bible can read the story for themselves. Fact is the flood story is just one of the Bible stories that is UNscientific in the extreme and anyone who takes this story to be literally true has a severe cognitive problem.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Can you prove a “Miracle” wrong?

        • R. Fine

          It’s a miracle that you believe in Jesus Christ and Hitler who eliminated Jesus Christ from Germany during his time in power. It’s a miracle that you can believe in and admire two opposites.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Read Revelation 2:9 and 3:9,,,who are those people that King Jesus pointed out???

  • JON

    Top Ten Reasons
    to Oppose U.S. aid to Israel
    Global Exchange, (5/02)

    US diplomats like to say that when it comes to the Palestinian-Israeli peace process the US plays the role of ‘an honest broker. “But the US’s massive foreign aid payments to Israel mean that, in fact, the US is taking sides. Israel is the largest recipient of US foreign aid in the world, receiving more than $6 billion annually-or about $8 million every-day. Until the US stops lending its weight to Israel through biased and unfair support, a truly just peace will remain elusive.
    1) Israel Systematically Violates the Human Rights of Palestinians in the Occupied Territories
    Every day, Israeli security forces in the West Bank and Gaza violate articles of the 4′h Geneva Convention on Human Rights, an agreement that governs wartime rules of engagement and to which Israel is a member. Palestinian homes and agriculture fields are routinely demolished to make way for illegal Israeli settlements. Israeli soldiers also regularly arrest and detain-often for years-Palestinians without due process. According to Amnesty International, Israel is the only country in the world that legalizes torture.
    2) US Aid Violates US Law
    Laws passed by Congress prohibit the president from furnishing military aid or selling weapons to any country that consistently violates internationally recognized human rights standards or uses those weapons in an offensive-rather than a defensive-manner. The US State Department says that Israel engages in “torture or cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment of punishment, prolonged detention without charges and trial, causing the disappearance of persons by the abduction and clandestine detention of those persons, and other flagrant denials of the right to life, liberty, or the security of people.” Weapons purchased from the US by Israel are regularly used against unarmed Palestinian civilian populations.
    3) Israel is an Exclusionary State
    The Israeli Law of Return allows Jews from all over the world to immigrate to Israel and gain citizenship there, but Palestinian refugees who were forced to flee their homes in 1948 and 1967 are excluded from returning to their homes and towns of origin. Even Palestinian citizens of Israel-who make up 20 percent of all Israeli citizens-are third-class citizens, and are not given many of the same rights as Israeli Jewish citizens. Israel’s official policy of discriminating against non-Jewish citizens makes the country a kind of “trickle down democracy,” and not one the US should be supporting.
    4) Israel Is Illegally Occupying Palestine
    The United Nation’s General Assembly has repeatedly condemned the Israel settlements in the Occupied Territories as illegal. Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank are forced to live in apartheid conditions, and the Israeli settlements built on confiscated land separate the Palestinians from each other, making for isolated Palestinian Bantustans surrounded by Jewish-only neighborhoods. By carving up the Occupied Territories in this way, the rapid construction of Israeli settlements has prevented the creation of a viable Palestinian state. Israel’s continued occupation of Palestine, sanctioned and maintained by the US, is one of the most serious obstructions to a just and lasting peace in the Middle East.
    5) US Foreign Aid to Israel Maintains the Military-lndustrial Complex Here in the US
    The US requires Israel to use 75 percent of all the military aid it receives to buy US-made arms. Consequently, every year billions of dollars are funneled from US taxpayers to hundreds of arms corporations, who then wage lobbying campaigns pushing for even more foreign military aid. The results of this policy are twofold: it not only diverts much needed funding from domestic education and social programs, but it makes US citizens complicit in the abuses committed by the Israeli army.
    6) The US Uses Palestine as a Military Test Ground
    The US relies on Israel to test out new military technologies in battle conditions. For example, cluster bombs have been used in southern Lebanon and ammunition containing depleted uranium has been fired against civilian populations in Palestine. Israel has cooperated with the US arms industry on research and development for new jet fighters, anti-missile defense systems, and even the Strategic Defense Initiative, or the resurrected “Sear Wars” program.
    7) Israeli Abuses Normalize Human Rights Violations
    The US’s failure to hold Israeli human rights abusers accountable for their actions by, at the very least, ending aid to the country is setting a dangerous precedent for other human rights violator around the world. Every night news broadcasts around the world show the routine abuses committed by Israeli security forces. The US often criticizes other nations for poor human rights records, and yet Israel is rarely included in such criticism. The US’s support for the Israel in the face of these much-publicized crimes completely discredits the US’s claim to be “an honest broker of peace” and contributes to the instability of US-Middle East relations.
    8) US Aid to Israel Harms Israelis
    For every dollar the US sends to the Israeli military, Israeli taxpayers end up spending two to three extra dollars supporting their military. By strengthening the Israeli military establishment, US aid to Israel makes it even harder for progressive Israelis to create a civil society committed t-o a just peace in the region. Israel has one of the most powerful militaries in the world, with a large portion of the country’s budget allocated for the military. The country’s massive military expenditures, promoted in part by the US, mean that less money is spent on social programs. The increasing US aid to Israel only serves to cement Israeli dependence on the US and turns the country into a militarized “client state.”
    9) Israel Trains Other Undemocratic, Abusive Regimes
    For years, Israeli military expertise has been shared with other abusive undemocratic regimes across the globe. In the 1980s, Israeli security forces trained a Honduran military intelligence unit, Battalion 316, that disappeared, tortured and killed Honduran citizens. Israel also trained members of the South African apartheid regime’s Inkatha hit squads that targeted ANC leaders. US aid to Israel, then, has led to the support of regimes that US taxpayers perhaps would not have otherwise aided.
    10) US Aid to Israel Could Be Better Spent
    One-third of the US’s entire foreign aid budget goes to support Israel. This is seven times more money than the US gives to all of sub-Saharan Africa. Dozens of poor countries could use this money better than Israel, which doesn’t need this support: the country has more nuclear weapons than China or France, and the Israeli economy is booming thanks its high tech industry. US aid to Israel funds a brutal military responsible for regular human rights abuses, the occupation of Palestine, and the expansion of illegal settlements. If there is to be a chance for a just peace in the Middle East, unconditional US support to Israel must end.

  • droning on….

    Helllo. Once 30,000 drones fly over the US, the game is over. Think.

    • Charlie

      Games been over for a long time,,,it’s no longer a game,,,it’s WAR!!! AND!!! The Holy Bible says “”We”" win with King Jesus as Militia Commander… Meanwhile………………….
      Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

      Charlie Freedom

      • R. Fine

        Have you read the Sermon on the Mount which represents the definitive philosophy of Jesus? I suggest you do so and then consider if someone with that world view would be a militia commander!!! From the sounds of things you actually don’t know a darn thing about Jesus and what he believed and yet you yammer on and on about him all the time.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Well,,,goofy,, just what is your rank under King Jesus Christ? and give “Scripture” on how you arrived at all the “Truth” you claim to have… Meanwhile….. Look at your dipstick,,We think you’re more than a quart low………………………….

        • R. Fine

          Well, while you want “war” with “king Jesus” as your militia commander I will rely on The Semon on the Mount in the gospel of Matthew in Holy Bible. You do know the Bible don’t you? You have heard of the Blessed Apostle Matthew have you not? So Jesus went up upon the mountain and said “blessed are the meek”. Are military commanders meek? I don’t think so. And Jesus also said “blessed are the peacemakers”. Are people who cry for “War” peacemakers? Not exactly.

          And then KIng Jesus said: “Resist NOT evil.” Is that the talk of a military guy? Hardly. And He added “Whoever slaps you on the right cheek turn the other to him also.” Not really the talk of a miltary fellow now is it. If someone attacks a military leader he attacks back doesn’t he? Jesus also went on to say “If anyone sues you to take away your tunic let him have your cloke also.” Those are awfully kind words for some kind of macho militia type don’t you think?

          But then King Jesus really gets to the tough stuff. I wonder how a military warrior commander would take to this advise from Jesus: “I say unto you to love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you.” So tell me Charlie, do you pray for those who persecute you or do you use your foul language? Do you love your enemies or do sek to destroy them? Do you bless those who curse you, Charlie, or do you curse them back? Eh Charlie? Do you follow the KIng Jesus you are always harping about or do you do the opposite??? You actually do the OPPOSITE don’t you Charlie because you don’y know what in tarnation you are talking about. In fact when you claim to be talking about Lord Jesus you are actually defying Him. You believe the OPPOSITE to Him. Why is that? Perhaps it is ignorance and you simply don’t know what Jesus’ philosophy was. Perhaps you just follow junk ideas from televangelists who don’t know what Jesus actually said either. Read his word that I quoted above. Try to understand what they mean. And try to live by them. Live as Jesus says to. Not that you have to but if you don’t then don’t go on and on about him in your postings. Thank you.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Well,,,goofy,,,as We said before,,, check your dipstick,,, I did not see one Scripture number in all your nerd comments… So ,,, I’ll ask for a few… What Scripture did you become a “”Christian”" by ??? ,,,IF,,, you are a Christian??? Check the word “Philosophy”, what does the Dictionary say it means… Clue::: King Jesus Christ IS The Son of God with the same, Power, Authority, and All… Check Matthew 28:18 for that …………………..
        Now for War , what did King Jesus say at Luke 19:27??? What did King Jesus say at Luke 22:36??? What did King Jesus say at Matthew 10:34??? read the whole chapter… Did King Jesus run a guy out of “”Church”" with a wipe??? Did King Jesus discriminate at Matthew 15:24??? Could it be you are more than a quart low on Scripture???
        Goofy , get together with Pluto and study The Holy Bible for about 6 years and get back to Me with some more criticism… Meanwhile……………
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R. Fine

          Firstly I would suggest that if you are a Christian you should be somewhat more respectful of others. We are exchanging ideas here and there is no particular reason for you to be calling me names. If hearing about parts of your Bible that you don’t agree with bothers you then don’t converse with me. You seem to be rather hot under the collar. I was merely quoting your Jesus – if you don’t like what he had to say then you may ignore it. In any case the Jesus sayings I quoted are from the Book of Matthew and I did mention that. I suggest you find and read it. Actually it is known as the Sermon on the Mount and if you have not heard of it I’m rather surprised. It is probably the most famous speech in all of human history and clearly outlines Jesus’ non violent philosophy.

          I greatly admire Jesus and the few people who emulated his life such a Francis of Assisi.They were men of great moral courage and walked the walk. I would not, however, worship Jesus simply because to do so would be in contradiction of the First Commandment which has God stating “I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt. You shall have no other gods before me.” But that might be a part of the Bible you choose to ignore also.

          But in any case I do not believe in god. There are many Judeo-Christian values that I hold to and live by the most important one being the good and fair and just treatment of others at all times. I also don’t believe in Zeus, Appollo, Re, Namur, Hathor, Thor, Allah, or the Tooth Fairy.

      • Charlie

        Hey,,,Goofy,,,I almost forgot to say tell Pluto one has to apply Psalm 119:160 to arrive at Truth… One cannot take Scripture out of contexts and mix and match without “”Harmony”"
        to the whole Scripture,,,AND,,,come up with much, except you own Philosophy…
        Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        I only judge per the Book as any umpire should,,,when you come on with tee total lies of omission ,regarding the disposition of King Jesus Christ ,,,is that showing respect for The Son of The Almighty God??? The term “Goofy” is a compliment compared to what should be said for Gross disrespect for The Almighty God and His Son… You have said you are not a Christian,,,and you are telling Me to respect a “Heathen”"??? Ha ha ha ha ha ha….
        Meanwhile… Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R. Fine

          If you actually knew me or met me, if we, for example, had you over for a dinner party and we spoke on all these matters over the course of an evening meal I don’t think you would conclude that I was a heaven. I certainly have enough evidence and testamonials from former students during a 28 year career as a teacher to give me more than enough confidnce about my position in society. Mind you you seem to have a deeply ingrained animosity and single focus that opening your mind to much of anything you are not used to might very well be a long shot.

          In any case you needn’t treat me or anyone else on this forum with respect if you really don’t have it inside you to do so. I come here to discuss ideas and viewpoints. It would seem you are here mostly to vent and rant and repeat the same tired phrases you probably hear in church or from a televangelist or radio show host. Anyway you treating others here with respect or lack of respect only illuminates your own character and has little to do with me or anyone else. You may either treat others well and/or with respect or not. Depends on your character and personality.

          But I must say I did look up two of your Bible references and I have to admit I was shocked. In those passages I saw a Jesus very unlike the Jesus who speaks the words in the Sermon on the Mount (Book of Matthew). Have you read it yet by the way? The Jesus in your quotes is a vengeful, mean spirited, uncompromising man. So unlike the Jesus in Matthew. I have to say that my opinion of him is now diminished. I guess I prefer the loving Jesus, the non-violent Jesus, the humanitarian Jesus that we see in the Sermon on the Mount. Whatever happened to all that “peace on earth good will towards men” stuff we hear around Christmas time?

          But as is often the case with the Bible you can find whatever position you want on any particular issue. So it comes down to – I guess – seeking out the attitude you want to find and running with it. If you want peace you can find that in the Bible. If you want war you can find plenty of that too.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Are you aware of who the modern day Children of Israel are ? ,that’s the lineage of a Man named Jacob Israel in The OT of The Holy Bible of The Almighty God? IF,,,not? then you will not understand Who and what King Jesus Christ is in relationship to The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob Israel,,,these three are the Founding Fathers of The Physical side of King Jesus Christ,,,He, came to save ,,,Only,,,the lost sheep of the house of Israel,,
        see that at Matthew 15:24… So? who are those lost sheep of the house of Israel? today?…………………
        You say you are a Teacher? have you ever taught The History of The Almighty God,? as written in The Holy Bible? Are you into the basic psychology of personality clash?…………
        America today , is into heavy duty psychological “Warfare”,,,same said as “Spiritual” warfare… A lot of Americans have lost that battle,,,BUT,.,a lot of Americans are “Winners” because they KNOW that King Jesus Christ IS, The American Militia Commander … Who is The enemy of King Jesus Christ? and His Men? … The Bible says it is “The Anti-Christ”,,,
        see that at 1 John 2:22… Do you think King Jesus Christ is going to treat His enemies kindly ???NO!!! that’s what Luke 19:27 and many other warfare and “”"HATE”"”verses are all about… To see The BIG picture , one, MUST,,,harmonize the Whole Bible to arrive at
        “TRUTH”,,,BUT,.,I’m sure most that are asking for Mercy and Forgiveness ,,,PER,,,His process,,,will receive it……………………… Meanwhile………………………
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R. Fine

          Charlie: I suggest that you do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I suggest you love thy neighbour as thyself. I suggest peace on earth, good will towards men. I suggest you forgive others that you might be forgiven. I suggest that you judge not lest ye be judged. I suggest you love your enemy as well as your neighbour, and bless those who curse you and do good to those who hate you and pray for those who spitefully use and persecute you. I suggest you be a peacemaker for then you will be called a son of God. And do all of these things faithfully, Charlie, for they are the desires and the words of your Jesus. Jesus who, in your opinion, is the everlasting god, the Prince of Peace.

          It will not be easy for you Charlie because, clearly, you are filled with violence bordering on pure unmitigated hatred for “others” but the road Jesus, the Prince of Peace, has chosen for you is not an easy road. It is an uphill road. But with Jesus’ help you can walk the road of love and peace and kindness. And remember, Charlie, it is easy to love those closest to you but difficult to love those who may be against thee. But Jesus will be there to help you if you follow his word. Good luck Charlie. It will take, of course, more than than luck. Following the words of Jesus is not easy. You have already rejected his word in Matthew and in the Sermon on the Mount so it will be hard for you at first to get back on the right path. You will fall behind at times but Jesus will give you the strength to go forward and your reward will be in heaven where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in to steal. For where your treasure is there will be your heart also.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Should any one searching for Truth , stop searching when they find some Truth??? You are at best only a Judeo-Christian,,,and,,,your comments indicate you are NOT that well studied in The Whole Bible… So , why should some one that obviously knows more about subject matter , listen to some one that is ignorant of the “”Sum”"of subject matter contexts???
        You do NOT have The Salvation of King Jesus Christ ,,,IF,,,you THINK you have, then tell us how you gained that Salvation PER The Holy Bible… Meanwhile…………………………..
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R. Fine

          Charlie: I have presented to you a perfectly well reason set of actions based on Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount in the Book of Matthew. This, apparently is not good enough for you because you prefer some of the more belicose passages from other parts of the Bible. Of course that is your choice but basically you are a right wing religious fruit cake. Best of luck to you.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Well,,, so far you have NOT given any Scriptures,,, which indicates what I said earlier and it reads as you are into double think, and in violation of a number of those verses in Matthew 5…. Also you have failed to answer any of My questions directly… What did you teach?……………………………..

        • R. Fine

          Some of your questions may have seemed merely rhetorical or not very important. For the record I taught Ancient & medieval history with a heavy emphasis on philosophy and art. I still meet with my former students after 35 or more years. The issue between you and I seems to boil down to which Jesus we wish to emulate: the loving, non violent Jesus from the Sermon on the Mount (did you bother to read it yet?) or vengeful Jesus from your quotations. One of the big problems with the Bible – and all religious texts is that you can find in them whatever it is you are looking for (not to mention, of course, that the Bible is filled with so many impossible non scientific “events”).

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Any question any one ask is “Critical” in verbal warfare… Most any one with some Communication skills can make The Holy Bible say just about anything by mix and matching Scriptures,,,BUT,,,God and His Son King Jesus Christ had The Bible written in such a manner .,that, NO ONE can fool King Jesus and His “Men” that read The Scriptures
        in “”"Harmony”"” with all other Scriptures… So,,, what you have been doing so far is going in circles over Matthew 5 , WITHOUT harmonizing Matthew chapters 1—-28 into Matthew 5. NO Scientist can prove any scientific items in The Holy Bible wrong in their basic application… IF,,,you want to play “One Liner” or 1 verse ,,,then tell Me what Matthew 28:18 says? AND means in harmony with all Scripture??????????????? Meanwhile………
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R.F.

          You ask for an example of science proving something wrong in the Bible. Well I don’t have to be a scientist to use simple logic in saying that the Flood story is simply wrong and totally impossible. Even a child knows that there is no boat on earth – let alone Noah’s rather small one – that could hold 2 or 8 of every species on earth let alone Noah’s family. And where was all the food coming from to feed those tens of thousands of animals for 40 days? Any idea how much a single elephant or hippo eats in a day? The story is nonsense totally.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        You’re way short on basic Bible to argue the local flood as oppose to the World wide flood.. What did God do for Moses regarding water???

        • R. Fine

          Are you suggesting that the Noah flood was just a small local flood? Please clarify.

      • Charlie

        R.Fine,,,
        Where you been ? the local / world wide flood debate has been around for at least 20+ years… I don’t debate that with semi heathens,,, because it’s a waste of time to argue any Bible point with some one that’s trying to prove The Bible Wrong… The Bible says what it says ,and IF,,,you can’t understand it? keep trying….

        • robbiefine@hotmail.com

          But Charlie the Bible says the earth was covered by the flood. I can’t imagine what the so-called debate which you mentioned is about. The earth was simply covered by water. The flood was so profound that it covered the earth right up to the tallest mountains. The flood was so profound that all creatures on the earth (who were not on the ark) died. For all creatures on earth to die the flood had to be world wide. The flood was total. Now I really doubt any of this happened. To me the flood story is just a myth or fairy tale. But supposedly you believe it totally. But then why do you not accept what the Bible says? I don’t get that. So my question remains how did 2 and 7 of every species fit on to tat tiny boat? How could there have been enough food for tens and tens of thousands of animals. Oh and 2 & 7 of every species of bird too. Boy that’s a lot of birds!

          Fact is Charlie you have no way to answer because this particular story is nonsensical if taken literally. But when you even think about the details for more that 10 seconds you can’t avoid the fact that its nuts and illogical and unscientific. Your reply to me was that I have to study it better. No Charlie. It is YOU who has to start using your nogen a little.

          Oh, and another non scientific aspect of the Noah Ark story is how god supposedly turns one of Noah’s sons black for not obeying some dictate. This is the religious explanation for the existence of black skinned people seeing as everyone up until then was supposedly white and, of course the Bible folks don’t believe in evolution so where could black folk have come from? So there’s your answer. The irony is that homo sapiens were all originally black and white folk evolved along the way but don’t try to tell that to the religious nuts – they figure man came from mud and women came from a man’s rib.

          Historical note: readers who have the brain power to make enquiries should look up The Epic of Gilgamesh. This is a Mesopotamian story that also includes a story about a flood that is virtually identical to the Noah’s Ark story in the Bible. The Mesopotamian version was written several centuries earlier and was virtually copied word for word by the writers of the Old Testament.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Have you ever been to the North or South Poles??? OK,,, can you imagine God trying to kill a Polar Bear with a world wide flood??? My point is ,,, anything ,,, Wrote in The Bible has to be taken in “”"Harmony”"”"with ALL!!! other things that exist and / or ,,,are written in The Bible… Your “”Thinking”"has been so messermerized and limited and brainwashed by your NON Biblical jew nonsense, that you are on the way to Hell and don’t even know why..
        Meanwhile………………………………………..
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • robbiefine@hotmail.com

          “Non biblical jew nonsense”? That’s an interesting remark I must say. All I did was read the Flood story in your Bible and then ask you a few questions and make a few points. Don’t you find it embarrassing that your only response to throw out a few insults? Don’t you find that kind of childish?

          In any case you still won’t tell me how millions of creatures could fit on one tiny boat. Why won’t you answer? If need be I’ve even suggested you ask some local pastor for help on this. Your Bible clearly states that god wiped out all living creatures on earth except for those on the tiny boat. That would mean polar bears – not to mention all those species peculiar to Australia – had to be on board unless you believe god did a second creation of new animals after the flood which can’t be because your Bible goes on to say that all creatures on earth were the ones that repopulated the planet after the flood. And besides a second Garden of Eden – if there was one – certainly would have been mentioned in the Good Book but there is no such mention. And, of course, you don’t accept evolution so polar bears and kangaroos could not have come about that way so they had to have been on that tiny boat.

          I know this starts to make your brain hurt doesn’t it? It’s really not easy to defend or explain all this stuff simply because it is pure fantasy and mythology. But, again, I’m just pointing out specifics that are plainly written in the Bible. Your dilemma is in trying to explain the unexplainable. kind of like trying to claim that Pinocchio’s nose actually grew long as if it actually happened. Or like trying to explain how a wolf could talk in the Red Riding Hood fiction as if that also actually happened.

          Now take a look at Genesis 6:17 which clearly has God saying “I myself am bringing flood waters upon the earth, to destroy from under heaven all flesh in which is the breath of life; everything that is on the earth shall die.” Now to me that means that God said he was bringing a world wide flood and everything (except those on the ark) were going to die. To me those words are very straightforward. Everything on earth is going to die pretty much means that everything on earth is going to die. Your position is that when you read other stuff in the Bible that “everything on earth is going to die” DOESN’T mean that everything on earth is going to die. You think it means something else.

          Of course you WANT it to mean something else because if it means what it actually and straightforwardly says that would mean that 2 and 7 of every species would have to have been on that boat which we all know would be impossible thus making the story pure and unmitigated fantasy. You are in a tough spot trying to explain any of this which is, of course, why your only response has to be hurling insults at me. Have a nice day (unless you have other plans!).

        • robbiefine@hotmail.com

          Charlie: What in heaven’s name does language have to do with race? Genesis 1:9 is about God supposedly creating different languages not different skin colour or eye shapes. Please explain your comment.

          Also the Bible does not really explain why God decided to make different languages. Men – who all spoke the same language – decide to build a tower and suddenly God scatters them all over the place and gives them different languages. How come? Sorry to ask you another question – I know you don’t like questioning the Bible.

          As historians, of course, we do know how language(s) evolved and the poor sods who wrote this bit of the Bible did not have that knowledge so they dreamed up the Tower myth and left it at that. Gosh I love this nonsense.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        On this black / white issue you mentioned,,,check out Genesis 11:1–9,,,what God said He did there, I think , is what and how the other “Races” were generated …………………..

  • Derek

    Love. It’s truly that simple. In all that you do, love. In all that you speak, love. In all that you are, love. You attack one another as if you were rabid beasts, hungry for blood and afraid for your own lives. It pains me to see you all lashing out, as if the problem lay outside the realm of your control. You cause one another harm as a wounded dog lashes out at its caretaker. Your words are empty and vain and your cause is biased.

    To be cast into an empty pit with the likes of you would be hell, indeed. There is no pity, no love, no consideration, no wisdom, and no recognition of your creator. If I did not know the Lord, I would fear for my wife and children in your presence. I sense nothing but fear and hatred here.

    I pray that the end is not approaching swiftly for it would be a pity to see so many suffer at one another’s hand. The ‘elite’ have their nuclear bombs, their drones, and their armies, but what do you all possess? You shall scratch and claw and rend one another’s flesh from the bone when you realize that there is no exit to be had.

    I pronounce no curse upon any of you. The words that I share are merely a foretelling of the behavior that will follow such verbal attacks as these when all hope has fled and darkness has been unveiled in the human soul. Pray for your enemy, that they may have mercy on you when judgment comes to call.

    • Charlie

      Derek,,,
      What is Love? What did King Jesus say Love is? Your comment indicates you are just a Judeo-Christian…

      • http://www.facebook.com/derek.wolery.5 Derek Wolery

        Charlie, Jesus said to pray for your enemy. This is love – that one should take mercy upon his neighbor even though he does him harm. This I have done. I fear for the individuals that cast hatred and anger upon one another. Should such behavior be ignored and such words and attitudes be given right of passage? Should one not call for understanding and a consensus to be met?

        Think about it from this angle…though we now struggle to make ends meet and feed our families, we are blessed. Why then, do you lash out at one another? Are we not all creations of God? God does not create that which God does not wish to behold. Have you deliberately created anything that you counted as an abomination or of no account? How much less, then, should God do such a thing? A God that creates haphazardly is no God whatsoever. We are all valuable in God’s eyes.

        My prior post was meant to reveal the hypocrisy and detrimental nature of the anger that is being flung and multiplied by the majority of posters here. It is natural to be angry about such a thing as the previous article and the position that we find ourselves in. Taking into consideration the fact that we are now blessed and yet full of hatred, what then shall become of us when ALL material blessing has ceased and ALL certainty has been stripped away, thus leaving us sick, cold, starving, and afraid for our lives and the lives of our loved ones? There shall be no love to be found, no compassion to be had. It shall be each man for himself and the lives of others will be found to be only an obstacle to overcome, that we may obtain subsistence or security.

        What do you mean by “just a judeo christian?” Nobody is ‘just’ anything. Each and every human being on the face of this planet, to include those that craft our demise, are nothing less than a wondrous creation with great potential for good. It is up to us to tend that which we have been given. Should we decide to let the weeds of greed and worldly desire – as well as fear – crop up, we become creations not of God but of our weakness and the poison that it introduces and heaps up, thus separating us from the ‘kingdom’ of love, good will, comfort, and peace. Love is all of this combined and more.

        I hope that I answered your question adequately. As for the tag of ‘judeo christian,’ I consider myself a follower of Christ as I try to live as He lived and treat others with the regard that he employed. I shy away from the term ‘christian,’ but you are correct in assuming that I speak of Christ’s nature and my tendency and endeavors to emulate Him.

      • Charlie

        Derek,,,
        King Jesus Christ, said at John 14:15 ,” If you love Me ,you will keep My Commandments “.
        What are The Commandments of King Jesus Christ ???…………………
        IF some one tells you something you don’t Know, right from The Bible,,,is that love or hate??? OH? you did not like the way it was pointed out… Did Paul like to be struck 3 day blind by King Jesus Christ at Acts 9:3–7 was that Love or hate from King Jesus Christ???
        Have you obeyed the Command at Acts 2:38 ???… A Judeo-Christian is a false prophet Christian,,,that knows very little Scripture and DID NOT become a Christian PER The Bible, and cannot even tell others how to become a Christian PER The Book…………
        The First 2 Commands of King Jesus Christ are at Matthew 6:33,,,most so called Christians are way behind on the first 2………………Meanwhile……………………………..
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

      • http://www.facebook.com/desiree.gulliford Des

        Charlie, you are not making a single bit of sense. The commandments given by Jesus were:

        “Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.” – Mark 12:30-31

        This wasn’t something new for people to be hearing since Deuteronomy 6:5 pretty much says the same thing.

        I’ve read your other comments. I don’t know what version of the Bible you have or who you were refering to as the “lost sheep of Israel” but you seem very confused about what Christianity is. Jesus taught about love and compassion for one’s fellow humankind. Sermon on the Mount… Ring a bell?

        • R. Fine

          Des: Your observations about Charlie are correct. And about Jesus too. When I referred to the Sermon on the Mount Charlie seems to not even know what it was! You are right that he is confused. He starts with a right wing fundamentalist (and nasty) worldview and then finds what matches that in the Bible. And the Bible, as we know, covers all the based so to say. You can find anything you like in that book. And by worshiping Jesus as a god Charlie breaks the very First Commandment!

      • Charlie

        DES,,,
        You are doing the normal Judeo-Christian thing, taking Scripture out of “Context”,,,what was happening in the context of Mark 12? What does Matthew 15:24 say? is it a discriminatory statement? Why? Was the woman in the contexts one of the “Children of Israel” ? Read Psalm 119-160 and let Me know IF,,, you can see the Equation for Truth in it? “”"Truth = the Sum of God’s Words”"”,,.OK?,,, Harmonize the whole Bible to arrive at Truth of whatever subject matter you maybe searching out… Notice. the First Commandment of the Big 10,,,IF,,, complied with , most likely will mean you have accomplished the other also… Meanwhile……………………………..
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R. Fine

          God commanded you to have no other gods before Him. Please stop worshiping Jesus as a god. Please comply with God’s Commandment. Thank you very much.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Tell us in simple words what Matthew 28:18 means???

        • R.F.

          It says: “All power is given unto me in heaven & earth.” That’s all well and good for Jesus to give himself all power but… what might that mean? As much as I admire the Jesus in Matthew this particular quote does show just a hint of megalomania.

          On a light note perhaps we should remind ourselves that Jesus was a Jew (Josua ben Joseph) – his mother would have thought of him as god & he probably started to believe it himself.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        King Jesus Christ IS a Bloodline Jew from The Tribe of Judah ,,, King Jesus Christ proved that Matthew 28:18 is True while here on planet earth in the physical… Your comments say you have been duped,deceived and deluded by the Satanic powers that be………..

        • robbiefine@hotmail.com

          Actually Charlie I am a very normal person leading a productive life. I was a teacher for 28 years, have traveled the world and am currently a self employed businessman. I have children and grandchildren (11) and enjoy urban life with many friends in one of North Americas great cities. You may think I am possessed of the devil but that’s kind of impossible because there is no such ting as the devil. The devil is a creation long ago by folks who could not understand how a perfect god could create a world where bad things happen to people. What they did not realize was that not only was god not perfect but, in fact, there was no god at all. Basically you have the mentality of those early creators of religion who knew little of the natural world and virtually nothing of science. They thought that the stars were gods just out of our reach. They thought the earth was flat. They thought the earth was flat. They thought the sun went around the earth. They thought the brain was mush. They thought the woman determined the sex of a child. They thought if you prayed and did a little dance it would rain. And a thousand other stupidities. But they had an excuse. They lived hundreds of centuries ago and lacked knowledge. But what is your excuse for having the mentality of prehistoric man???

          By the way you still have not answered my question about Noah and the flood. How did 2 or 8 of every species get on a small boat along with some people. And where did the food for all those creatures come from and where – on the boat – was all that food stored (40 days worth of food for literally tens of thousands of creatures. I suppose you answer will be much like all of your other answers – a bunch of bumpf about King Jesus blah, blah, blah. But then that is what we might expect from a Neanderthal.

      • http://www.facebook.com/desiree.gulliford Des

        Nice that you thought you could guess my religious afiliation, either that or you were trying to decide it for me, but I am not a “Judeo-Christian”. I’m Jewish – by blood and religious affiliation – and a granddaughter of a survior of the Nazi regime. Thanks for playing though.

        On another note, your posts are very disorganized and are extremely irrational. I suggest you seek help from a mental health professional.

      • http://www.facebook.com/desiree.gulliford Des

        R.F., I don’t think you’re going to get a real answer from Charlie, or any semblence of rationality from him either. He seems pretty set on ignoring logic.

        • R. Fine

          Well I do agree with your evaluation. I have been trying to introduce him to some rational ways of thinking and have been pointing out some Biblical facts to which he seems oblivious. Basically he’s one of these Bible thumping right wing fruitcakes overly influenced by some evangelical who’s only line of reasoning boils down to saying the name Jesus over and over again. Anyway, hang in there.

      • Charlie

        Des,,,
        Thanks for your info ,,,I do seek the help of a Mental Health Professional,,, His Name is King Jesus Christ,,,The Son of The Almighty God,,,The Creator of ALL minds… We think He’s got this mental health thing figured out to a Science… Pray the “Prayer” that King Jesus Christ gave us at Matthew 6:9–13, everyday at least, it’s good for your entire health
        mental , physical , Spiritual…………….
        IF,,, you can prove your bloodline from the Tribe of Judah, with paper documentation? better be on the look out for Hitler’s kids…ha ha ha ha ha ………………….
        Why did the so called Jews , take Ernst Zundel POW???
        What does The Bible say about God’s Chosen People???……….. Meanwhile………………
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

      • Charlie

        Des,,,
        Is King Jesus a radical ? YES,,,He and His Men turned the world up side down…King Jesus and His True Christians, are , still fighting the Anti-Christs the same way King Jesus rebuked the Devil at Matthew 4 AND,,,by obedience to His “Other” Orders… King Jesus did NOT do away with any “Laws”,,,see what He said about “”"Law”"”at Matthew 5:17……………
        See who God’s Chosen people are,, at 1 Chronicles 16:13… Also at Matthew 15:24…….
        The Bible “Rules” in single verse OR whole Contexts… NO modern Man is to be trusted with
        The Words of God!… Read The Bible for yourself! … Meanwhile…………………………….
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R.F.

          You still won’t answer! How did all those animals fit on that tiny boat? where did all the food come from for all of them for 40 days? How come in Chapter 1 men and women are supposedly created at the same time and yet in the very next chapter they are created at different time? Cain and Able are the 2 sons of Adam and Eve who were – supposdley – the first two people ever. Then – of a sudden – Cain and Able “know” their wives! Where did these women suddenly come from? How come Lot – the only decent man god could find in Soddom goes on to impregnate his wn daughters? How come when a wman was raped she was required to marry the rapist? I could go on and on but you nor your pastor can make sense of or answer these Bible questions. All you are able to do is repeat the same tired comments about king Jesus this and king jesus that without actually coing to terms with the many holes in the Bible. Oh, and how does a man get swallowed by a giant fish and stay in the belly for a few DAYS and then come out fit as a fiddle? Now that’s a real science question for you.

      • http://www.facebook.com/desiree.gulliford Des

        Charlie, the Bible is not a historical document. It’s meant to provide stories that teach us lessons we can apply to our lives. For instance, there are in fact TWO different creation stories in Genesis. Chapter 2 is not simply a rehashing of the events in Chapter 1 since the order of events in Chapter 2 are opposite of those in Chapter 1. Most Jews do not have a problem discussing this contradiction because we don’t take it literally.

        As for the flood story, there is absolutely no archeological or scientific evidence to support the assertion of a world-wide flood. Didn’t happen. There may have been a localized flood as the Torah is not the only place where a flood story is found. The epic of Gilgamesh also discusses a flood tale. However, the early Israelites may have taken their flood story from their Gilgamesh composing neighbors.

        Additionally, you’re no authority on Jewishness. Yeshua be Yosef (the actual historical name of Jesus as “Jesus” comes from the Greek spelling) didn’t have any papers. The heart of the Jewish people is not in documentation of Jewishness, but the cultural and religious ties that bind us. Could I provide paperwork to prove it? Sure. Is it necessary? Absolutely not.

        What does the Bible say about G-d’s chosen? A lot of things. The entire Bible is about us.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        Before We get into Noah’s flood ,,how and whys ,,,We need to ID your god to see IF,,, He is The Almighty God of The Bible OR,,, the small “g” god of The Bible??? Is your God, The God of Abraham , Isaac and Jacob Israel ???………………………………………..

        • R. Fine

          I consider myself what you might call a secular Jew. I identify closely with Torah Law and am proud of the moral and historical contributions of the Jewish people through the ages and especially with modern day Israel even though I know there is no such thing as god. I have always promoted Torah study and Jesus just so happens to be a personal hero of mine as is Francis of Assisi but thinking of Jesus as god or the son of god is pure silliness especially as there is no god.

      • Charlie

        Des,,,
        IF,,,The Holy Bible is not a history book of God’s Creations and Laws,,,then you don’t know what a history book is ,,better get together with R. Fine ,,,he’s suppose to be a history teacher of some sort,,,he says… PLUS!!! how are you going to prove this “Jew” thing you rattle on about??? The word Jew did NOT exist UNTIL The Tribe of Judah came into their land area… PLUS!!! your comment DOES NOT tie in with The lineage of Adam to Jesus Christ … IF,,,you cannot show some historical book evidences? should We just believe your comments??? I ain’t a heathen ,,,remember? MY lineage is mostly from “The
        Children of Israel”,,, God’s Chosen People… See 1 Chronicles 16:13… Meanwhile………….
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

      • http://www.facebook.com/desiree.gulliford Des

        Scientific, archeological and historical evidence does not exist to support your assertions, Charlie. I’d like to again point out that there are TWO creation stories that directly contradict each other in the book of Genesis.

        If you would like more evidence that the Bible is a historical document, head to a natural history museum. The Earth is 4.5 billion years old and humans have been around for about 65,000 years. Species go extinct and new species evolve. That’s evidence enough for me to understand that the world was not created as is 5773 years ago.

        • R. Fine

          Des: There is no way this fellow Charlie knows anything about evolution. This guy deals totally in myths and fairy tales. He ignores or knows nothing about how the natural world operates.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        You claim The Bible is a fairy tale ,,,well The Holy Bible is the only oldest Book that describes The Almighty God as such… What book describes your lesser god ??? since you don’t believe in The Holy Bible??????????????? Meanwhile………………………….
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • robbiefine@hotmail.com

          The Torah is almost the first “book” (it was/is actually a scroll written on parchment) to describe a monotheistic faith but historians widely note that the notion of a single diety originated in Egypt under the rule of Akhenaton who broke with Egyptian polytheistic tradition to introduce the Aton which ruled alone. This first montheistic faith only lasted one generation until polytheism returned. This all happened just prior to the Exodus of the Jews from Egypt and Moses would have known of the one god idea. He later wrote the first parts of the Torah (supposedly).

          The Mespotamians also have their sacred texts which predate the Torah by a couple of centuries. One of their myths is of a great flood that was virtually copied word for word by whomever wrote the Noah myth. Just some of the names are different and the type of bird Noah sends out to check for dry land.

          By the way you still are not telling us how 2 and 7 of every species fit on to a tiny little boat. What possible explanation are you going to come up with? By the way the Torah clearly states that God destroyed all living creatures on earth except for those on Noah’s boat which means the flood did indeed cover the entire globe to the depth of the highest mountains (gee, where did all that water go one wonders). Have you actually read the Noah flood story. From your comments you appear not to have done so. But please answer the question about all the animals on the boat. I’m really curious what you’ll conjure up. Feel free to get some help from your pastor on this one.

          Also seeing as you are such a firm follower of the Bible (in actuality you are not) will you be observing Passover? It’s next week. Do you eat only Kosher? The Bible demands that don’t you know. You have probably answered “no’ to those two questions which means you are not a follower of the Bible despite your claims. Gosh I love this stuff although it is mean of me to trip you up so easily.

        • robbiefine@hotmail.com

          P.S.: Forgot to answer your question: I don’t hold to a lesser god nor to any supposed greater god. I have already told you that there is no such thing as god – the notion of such is totally a man made creation that I have no particular interest in except for what it teaches us about various cultures.

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        All this “”stuff”" happening everyday , and you’re saying there is no God / god in Control ??……………. Maybe God went into suspended animation ??? hja ha haha ahanahanab ………………..Meanwhile……………………………….
        Praise King Jesus for Salvation and Healing… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

        • R.F.

          Look Charlie, here’s what you have to absorb – there is no god. There’s no Zeus, no Apollo, no Thor, no Amun Ra, no Allah, no Annubis, no Tooth Fairy etc. And just because things are happening on this insignificant little spec in the universe doesn’t mean there is a god. It’s made up. It’s mythology, its fantasy. If thinking there IS a Zeus helps you get through the day, well, that’s fine. We all have one or more illusions don’t we. I realize that your beliefs are firmly held and they will probably stay with you till your dying day which makes these discussion kind of futile. For me its an intellectual exercise plus I get to refresh my memory about parts of the Bible, for example, and learn new things which I did when I looked up the various interpretations of the local and world wide flood.

          There were some interesting thoughts around the flood story and how wide spread the flood was. Personally I advocate the notion of interpreting the Bible, thinking it through, seeing hidden meanings, coming up with ones own opinions etc. I’m the last person to take the Bible literally word for word. To me that’s mindless. But what I find curious is that YOU are basically advocating INTERPRETING the Bible even though you supposedly believe in it word for word. Maybe that’s why you could not explain how 2 and 7 of all creatures on earth could fit on such a tiny boat. It’s simply impossible scientifically speaking and simply did not happen.

          The only reason I was pushing for the world wide flood notion was because that’s what the Bible words actually say and I was pointing out how scientifically impossible such an event would be. I’m glad that you don’t really believe it either.

          In any case the flood story comes from ancient Mesopotamia where they really did have dramatic and erratic floods in antiquity that did vast damage. The Tigris and Euphrates rivers irrigated the lands but also brought devastation. Whoever it was that wrote the Bible version virtually copied it word for word. I read the epic of Gilgamesh many years ago and I think it was the type of bird that gets released that differed between the two stories. Too late to charge the author with plagerism!

      • Charlie

        R. Fine,,,
        We don’t have to absorb any lies ,,, one that has their mind saturated with Truth, reject lies and does NOT become “brainwashed”,,,The Bible is a Book of Truths… IF,,,you can’t prove something to “Your” standard does not mean it is a lie… You have rejected God and His Son King Jesus Christ,,,therefore you will be rejected… Meanwhile… I will ………………
        Praise King Jesus Christ ,,,Until I know as I am known… Acts 2:38 is salvation…

        Charlie Freedom

  • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

    The recent loss of credibility in “scientific” pronouncements from our government and the decline of confidence in the United States are the consequences of a well-intentioned decision made when the United Nations was established on 24 Oct 1945 to save the world from possible nuclear annihilation by:

    1. Putting the common welfare of mankind ahead of national or ethnic interests, but

    2. Failing to acknowledge our Creator as the ultimate authority and UN leaders as but trusted servants – not rulers – of the people.

    Here’s the rest of the story on the rise and fall of the age of

    _ a.) Scientific enlightenment and
    _ b.) The United States government.

    http://tinyurl.com/cg69otr

    With deep regrets,
    - Oliver K. Manuel
    Former NASA Principal
    Investigator for Apollo

    • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

      I did not understand earlier, but now I am convinced the following figures in the scientific and political communities (left and right wing) were aware – and tried to warn the public – that Global Elitists created the United Nations on 24 Oct 1945 to enslave the world and to save themselves from possible death by nuclear annihilation:

      1.The nuclear scientist who became my research mentor in 1960, Dr. P. K. Kuroda, the first scientist to visit Hiroshima after it was destroyed by an atomic bomb in Aug 1945.

      2. The British astronomer, Sir Fred Hoyle, the scientist who laid the foundation for the Standard Solar Model of H-filled stars and H-fusion as its source of energy in 1946

      3. The British writer, George Orwell, who wrote Animal Farm to describe the rise of communism under Stalin before WWII, and then started to write “1984″ when he was dying of tuberculosis in 1946 to warn the world a new tyrannical government was coming.

      4. Joseph Kennedy, the father of John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy and Ted Kennedy.

      5. Senator Joseph McCarthy, the right-wing anti-communist politician whose credibility was destroyed, probably by Global Elitists.

      6. Two left-wing politicians who were assassinated in office, President John F. Kennedy and his brother Robert Kennedy. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/progjfk2.htm

      President Kennedy started the Apollo program in 1960 to protect our country from domination by the USSR’s advances in rocket and space sciences (Sputnik).

      Two right-wing politicians, Henry Kissinger and Richard Nixon, agreed to end the Apollo program in 1971-72.

      Here’s the rest of the story as I now understand it on the rise and fall of the United States government and its relationship to the rise and fall of integrity in scientific research.

      http://tinyurl.com/cg69otr

      With deep regrets,
      - Oliver K. Manuel
      Former NASA Principal
      Investigator for Apollo
      http://www.omatumr.com

  • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

    Formation of the United Nations on 24 Oct 1945 brought many benefits to society – reduction in the threat of nuclear annihilation, nationalism, racism, etc. – but hiding information on the source of energy (E) [1,2] stored as mass (m) in cores of

    a.) Heavy atoms like Th, U, Pu
    b.) Planets like Jupiter and Saturn
    c.) Ordinary stars like our Sun
    d.) Galaxies like the Milky Way

    Prevented world leaders from being able to meet the basic needs of society.

    - Oliver K. Manuel
    Former NASA Principal
    Investigator for Apollo
    PhD Nuclear Chemistry
    Postdoc Space Physics

    PS – By coincidence, it looks like the snow falling here in Missouri today should blanket Washington, DC in time for the House Subcommittee hearing tomorrow on “global warming !

    http://science.house.gov/hearing/subcommittee-environment-policy-relevant-climate-issues-context

    1. ”Neutron Repulsion”, The APEIRON Journal 19, 123-150 (2012): http://redshift.vif.com/JournalFiles/V19NO2pdf/V19N2MAN.pdf

    2. “Yes, the Sun is a pulsar,” Nature (submitted 12 Dec 2012): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10640850/Yes_the_Sun_is_a_pulsar.pdf

  • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

    The fraudulent climate crisis is explained succinctly at Power to the People:

    http://tinyurl.com/a2ocxtq

    Details and references for the rise of the fraudulent climate crisis (1945-2013) are here:

    http://tinyurl.com/atf8w63

    I deeply regret that I could not connect the dots earlier.

    With kind regards,
    Oliver K. Manuel
    Former NASA Principal
    Investigator for Apollo

  • Steve

    No flood? I guess you’ve never seen the photos of buildings underwater off Japan and China, or photos of stone temples off the coast of South America, or off the coast of Florida. Oh, wait could it be that those buildings aren’t underwater, they’re just covered with liquid air, yeah, that’s it, right?

  • http://omanuel.wordpress.com omanuel

    Astrophysicist Piers Corbyn, of WeatherActioncom, now predicts a new Mini Ice Age is upon us !

    http://tinyurl.com/cgfa2d3

    We are ill-equipped to handle this situation, if correct, because after 1945 world leaders hid the only source of energy that could possibly make up for a temporary lull in solar energy: http://tinyurl.com/a2ocxtq http://tinyurl.com/atf8w63

    -Oliver K. Manuel
    Former NASA Principal
    Investigator for Apollo
    http://www.omatumr.com

  • Kevin

    (((Helpful Tips for the Identification Of “Charlie”))) ……………………….There is growing, irrefutable evidence that the Crimean Khazars, whose kingdom extended over what is now the Ukraine to the Caspian Sea, officially converted to pure Mosaic Judaism in 861 under the rule of King Bulan. The Khazars do not appear to have been a people unto themselves, but rather a blend of many races resulting from the heavy trade that was going on at the time. The campaign of the Rus (Russian) Prince Svyatoslav of Kiev effectively broke the back of the Khazarian empire in 965 AD, although Khazar itself continued until at least 1030 AD. Under the growing persecution of Kiev Rus in the 11th and 12th century, the Khazars disappeared as a people. Nonetheless, there is overwhelming evidence that at least a portion of the Jewish Khazars fled to Eastern Europe and north into Poland and Lithuania.
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