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Glenn Beck D.C. Rally Calls For A More God-Centered Country

September 1, 2010 by  

Glenn Beck's Restoring Honor event draws large crowd in DCGlenn Beck, whose popularity has skyrocketed this year thanks to his television show on Fox News and radio program, held a rally over the weekend that the conservative commenter estimated drew close to 400,000 attendees.

The Restoring Honor rally could prove to be a defining moment in Beck’s ongoing career and may have struck a chord with Americans who are more religious in nature.

During the rally Beck said that the country "for too long had wandered in the darkness" and that the potential answer would be that more Americans need to "turn back to God."

A piece by columnist Ross Douthat was featured in the Monday edition of The New York Times and remarked that the rally carried a more religious tone, and that Beck may be a much more powerful voice than some realized.

"To this rally-goer, though, the most striking thing about ‘Restoring Honor’ was the way the pageant effortlessly tapped into the same rich vein of identity politics that has given us figures as diverse as Palin and Howard Dean, George W. Bush and Barack Obama — but did so, somehow, without advancing any explicitly political agenda," wrote Douthat.ADNFCR-1961-ID-19932978-ADNFCR

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  • s c

    Beck needs to be very careful with this topic. You can bet that every possible religious option has been fully analyzed and calculated by those who pull the strings of our ‘leaders.’ About the worst thing Beck can do is to step up and try to be seen as a religious leader.
    For now, it’s enough to make Americans understand that government and God don’t mix. If the two are ever successfully merged, Hitler’s Germany will seem like wholesome family entertainment by comparison.

    • Claire

      S C — I agree with your comment. Beck must be careful when mixing religion with politics. This could very well backfire on him.

      • Nella

        I think what u are both missing is that this is a call to the person. This is a call to a religious revival of a personal nature. It is really not political.
        I believe what this is really about is what is missing from a lot of kitchen tables. A personal relationship with God…not just punching in your card on Sundays but a daily personal relationship. Then things will Change for the good because it will be His will not ours.
        I found it AWESOME to see all the different faiths’ together! The message was VERY clear to those who were Listening.

        • Victoria DeLacy

          I was there and it was indeed a call of the nation back to God – a few Baptist pastors joined in the week-end events, and the spirit of the occasion was in keeping with II Chronicles 7:14, which calls upon the people of every nation to repent as individuals and be drawn back to the Lord’s will for our lives as well as the collective future. Being a mother of 6 adults and grandmother of 9 more Americans, it’s my hope the nation finds spiritual restoration soon – that is our touchstone to future growth and national survival.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Vitoria, when 2 or more people gather in my nmae, I will be with thee.
            author God

        • Dave

          God and Politics have nothing to do with one another. Using religion is just a way to influence people by tapping into their belief structure and it’s the oldest kind of manipulation.

          • Angel Wannabe

            Yes they do, Dave,It’s amatter of choice wether you want to believ it or not. Prayer has been a part of politics & Country for hundreds of years. Worshiping either gods or God. In the Bible, Pharaoh prayed to the under lord, to restore life to his son, when the first Born of Egyptians we’re killed, as prophesied by Moses. Pharaoh lost his battle and kingdom, and admitted, that the GOD that Moses revered, is Lord. Moses then led the people out of bondage.

          • Nina

            Hate to break it to you, but this nation was founded on Godly principles, and it was freedom of religion that caused the settlers to leave Europe and come here. Religion has everything to do with
            leading this country, and it’s the lack of recognition of God that’s brought us down the path that we are now struggling with. Research American history, where do you think the terms “One Nation Under God” or ” In God we Trust” came from.

          • kate8

            Dave, the left uses this tactic. Their religion is secular humanism, global warming and the green movement.

            This leftist movement is every bit as threatening and dangerous to our freedoms as is Islam. The “true believers” are abslolutely fanatic, fascistic, and power-crazed.

            This nation as coexisted with Christianity since it’s inception, and it has caused America to prosper as each understood its boundaries.

            This is no longer the case. Christian principles have been marginalized and a “new religion” has come forward. But this “new” religion worships the creation, not the Creator. While Christ taught us how to be free, this new movement seeks to enslave.

            The left always uses the cry for the “greater good” as their clarion call. But we can be sure that “good” is not what they have in store for the masses. It’s based on lies, deception, and fear. These are tools of evil.

          • Karolyn

            Dave – It’s not religion; it’s spirituality. If everyone lived according to their own true spiritual nature, we would be in the Garden of Eden.

          • Claire

            Karolyn–You are correct. It is spirituality and this is great. However, I wonder what the method behind his madness is. Did Beck find God? Has he changed? From spewing hateful diatribe to suddenly becoming redeemed? I make no joke about religion, I am a firm believer in God, but with the way the world is and the way the talk show hosts conduct themselves now and in the past, it does make me wonder about the sincerity.

          • Karolyn

            That’s something I’ve been wondering. Apparently, he changed his tactics in mid-stream. What was going to be a political rally changed, probably because of the negative publicity regarding the date having been the anniversary of Dr. King’s big rally.

          • Kinetic1

            Nina,
            Some groups did indeed come to America fleeing religious intolerance, but most came here for business. I realize that our schools give the most attention to the Plymouth pilgrims, but they were a very small part of our founding. Most ironic is the fact that, once here they were among the most religiously intolerant of all the colonies! No matter what the truth is, the fables of the founding and growth of our country as one based firmly in Christianity will be stressed by the churches and folks like Beck and David Barton.

            As for our government, there is a reason that our founders left God out of the Constitution. And to those who point to the church’s involvement in other governments, look at the trouble it caused. It is that same interaction between the church and England’s monarchy that lead our leaders to fear the effects religion would have if allowed into our own government.

          • Jana

            Karolyn and Claire,
            I don’t think he did change his plans all of a sudden like you think. He has been talking this way now for the last year, as he had even said in some of his programs last year that he was going to be changing things and moving more towards the Lord and His view. He wasn’t even sure it would be accepted, and he has been very surprised.
            Personally I think God has called him to do this at this particular time as God will use any willing vessel, and thankfully Beck is a willing vessel. A willing vessel here is any willing person.
            Beck has been under attack for his stand, but anytime someone stands for Truth, honor or God, they expect to be ridiculed and scorned by those who do not understand.

          • Christin

            Agreed, Jana, well said.

        • http://personalliberty.com DR. D

          Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Bob from Socal

            I 2nd that Amen!

        • Robert Smith

          From Nella: >>>I found it AWESOME to see all the different faiths’ together!<<<

          Really? What other faiths were with Beck other than fundimentalist right wing "christians?"

          Rob

          • Granny Mae

            Robert Smith,

            There were Muslims there ! I understand there were many different faiths there. But then what different does that make? It is the message that was important. Beck knows as well as many of the rest of us that there is just beginning to come a time when this country is going to be hurting. By that I mean the people in this country and there will be many of us that will have nothing but our faith in God to turn to. By turning to God and the christian principals we may be able to keep for being over run by anarcy. I am seeing these problems surfacing in my own neighborhood and also with some in my extended family. There are people out there without jobs that have not been able to collect unemployment or get on welfare because these programs are broke and those that are already on it seem to be grandfathered in so to speak ! In just this past month I have had to care for two different families and am in the process of just such a thing right now with a young man who came to my door about 3 days ago. He left his young family so they would have more in food stamps to feed themselves instead of trying to feed him too. My father-in-law had that same thing happen to him when he was going through the depression. He had to leave his family so they would have enough to eat ! People wake up, we are going into this thing and you better know how to handle it and do it in a Christian way or we are all in a lot of trouble. I urge all of you to please, if you know of someone that is in trouble like this at least make them a sandwich and take it too them. There is nothing wrong with Christian kindness and by that kindness you may be the one that turns the light on in the mind of someone else that doesn’t know what it is to be a Christian. It is time to stop questioning the motives of Glenn Beck and start listening to the message. He doen’t have to put himself up before all the ridicule, or live with all the threats on his life and the lives of his family so that he can be mis-understood by the rest of us. He is trying to allert you to a situation that is coming and is infact upon us and is urging us to turn our attention back to our faiths. When you have nothing else you still have your faith ! He asked for people of all different faiths to stand with him to show unity in joining together and reaching out a hand to people of all faiths, and yes even those of you with no faith. If you can get by without a faith in God , well good for you, but don’t sit back and ridicule those of us that do rely on our faith.

          • Granny Mae

            Oh yes I believe I heard that there were Hindu’s there too!

        • Marie Mandel

          Glen Beck is one of the biggest phonies in this country and in love with himself and I agree NUTS too.

      • http://none constance drummand

        You are right about Beck crossing the line, but I “think” he has enough people watching his back, to help him. He has been given the gift of a great leader for us and lead us on. It will be the others out there and the govt that is going to try to dismantle him. They are the ones he has to watch. We also have to watch those in govt. that are fighting to keep “our” people from getting into office up tthere. Just pray for him and what he’s trying to take on and move forward.

    • Gino

      Your reply to Mr. Beck is blind and shallow. You only need to look at the founding fathers to get a real glimse how our Christian God was respected by our very Presidents. Did you know the White House itself was used for church and prayer groups, that were led by some of our very own Presidents? Its been that way until recently approx. 30 to 40 yrs. ago. Every decision you or anyone else makes is based on your beliefs. There is no shame in that. You and all who read this may want to go through a tour of the White house using David Barton as your tour guide. Or simpley contact him your self via phone.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Gino, David Barton is a true gift from God, he is a walking history book. I have a few of his books from wall builders.

        • Kinetic1

          Before you consider Barton a “gift”, research his books. Much of what he espouses as the “history of our nation” is based on false assumptions and fake documents. While there is no doubt that most, if not all of our founders were raised in one form of Christian church or another, evidence shows that their adherence to and involvement in these religions was often far less than claimed by the likes of Barton.

          • Angel Wannabe

            kinetic1, don’t bother buddy, already verified, and his history is original and NOT revised, like yours is, thanks!

          • Kinetic1

            If you choose to accept his word with blinders on, that is your right, but the very words of our founders often discredit him.

          • Granny Mae

            Kinetic1,

            Put your money where your big mouth is and prove it! Your about to make me loose my Christianity here in a minute !

          • Angel Wannabe

            well put Granny Mae!

      • Karolyn

        Why does “Christian” have to be used as an adjective in front of God? God is God.

        • Jana

          Kaolyn, Christian stands for Christ like. God sent His Son to teach and show us how to live, then Jesus Christ became the sacrifice for our sins.
          Christian doesn’t mean we are like Christ, it means we strive to be like Christ, although most of us fail, but He is our advocate to our Heavenly Father.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jana,
            Actually we ALL fail! “To breathe is to sin” Jesus was the only person to walk this world sin free!

          • Jana

            Joe H,
            You are so right. We ALL fail. Thanks for straightening that out.

        • Granny Mae

          Karolyn,

          Good question! You don’t have to be Christian to believe in GOD. Jews also believe in GOD ! It is just easier for the christian bashers to use us to spread their hate and bigotry !

      • Robert Smith

        Gino says: >>>Its been that way until recently approx. 30 to 40 yrs. ago.<<<

        Actually Bush expanded White Hours preying by a bunch over even Reagan.

        Maybe it is all that preying from the White House that's causing the problem.

        http://www.presidentialprayerteam.com/

        Rob

        • Dingo23

          The best bet for the Tea Party is to take over the Republican Party. I wouldn’t call it a “hostile” takeover. I’d call it rescuing the republican party, so the country can win.
          The Republican Party had lost it’s way, but it is worth saving.

        • http://naver samurai

          TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much kool aid!

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      s c…
      I agree that Glenn Beck does need to be careful how he goes about a revival, but I disagree that government should not be mixed with religion. What he accomplished was amazing. I only wish I could have been there! And, I am confident that there are thousands just like me who would have been there if they could. It was inspiring and awesome to know how many people all feel the same. Taking God out of our government is only leading us in a direction that is not successful, as we are experiencing. He was not advocating any certain religion, other than proclaiming that we need to strengthen our relationship with God.

    • marvin

      you do know that religion and christianty are not allways the same thing,vodo, witch craft and the likes, are all so religions,,just because you are religulous don,t say you belive in one god

      • Jeanne

        Use spell check for a more believable comment.

        • Jana

          Actually, Marvin is right. They call it religion, but it really is a turning back to the One True God, not a religion. There are many false ‘religions’ floating around. What Beck is calling for is a coming back to the knowledge and the praying for guidance to The One True God, our Heavenly Father.

          Christianity is a way of life, just the same as Islamism is a way of life. You cannot separate a believer of Islam from his lifestyle, no more than you can a Christian from his lifestyle. you either are or you aren’t. It influences you in how you vote and how you act and how you conduct your whole life. Of course it would influence our politics. Again I will state the separation of church and state was not to protect our Government from religion, but to protect religion what ever it be from the Governments intervention or taking it over.

          • Claire

            Jana—Very wise words. I agree with your comments. You hit the nail on the head. Literally.

          • Kinetic1

            History shows us that if government is not protected from religion, then religion will not be protected from Government. Most of the first 13 had a state religion. The result was that those who were not members of that religion were often ostracized and driven out. Many Americans consider this to e a Christian country, but if and when Christianity is allowed to become the “official” church of the USA, all religions will suffer.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Great post, Jana! I find it interesting that there are those who can claim Christianity, prayer, etc., “violates” their “religious” beliefs and they are catered too by the ACLU and other groups. I agree with your comments and will add this: I don’t believe in abortion (for the sake of birth control or irresponsible behavior)….abortion violates my own religious beliefs, yet the government feels it’s okay to use my tax dollars to pay for abortions (forcing my indirect support for something that is against my religious belief). If the government wants to use my tax dollars, then maybe they should not pay for abortions with tax payer dollars…funny how the government and FLL’s don’t seem to mind when the religious beliefs of Christians are violated.

            I personally feel Beck is human (flawed like the rest of humanity) and I believe his ralley was a good thing. He has just as much right to hold a ralley as any other group…and I hope he has more rallies, close enough so I can attend.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Fed Up Gal,
            There was an article I read the other day titled “Is Abortion Dumbing Down Society?” It stated that the people with a truely high IQ only make up about 2% of the population and the writer wondered how many Eiensteins or Salks, or Pasteures we have lost to abortion. At only 2% of the abortions since they became legal, it would stand that we have lost over one million geniuses!!! To all of the natural cure people out there this means that the person that could have found a natural cure for all disease may have been aborted!!! Think of it!!

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Joe H,

            Wow…..that sounds like a good article. Can you post the link here?

          • Christin

            Joe H., interesting take on abortions…loss of geniuses.
            I know God has given each of us a gift and He values us all.

          • Robert Smith

            Say Jana, what about chrustians like Bishop Spong or Bishop Gene Robinson, Bishop Otis Charles?

            Rob

          • Marie Mandel

            There Jana, you nailed it; “influence on how you vote”. Do the majority of politicians not pretend to be christians, so that they can get your votes? Think about it folks

          • Christin

            Yes, Marie Mandel, I think you are right…the politicians have been pretending to be Christians because they know that is important to us as believers. They know we are looking for good leaders with character and integrity, morals (principles) and values.
            Spot on… we have been fooled haven’t we?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Fed Up Gal,
            I found the article. It was an editorial from a man named Mike Zuren of Lake County Ohio. In it he states that there have been approx. 52,000,000 abortions since Roe VS Wade. According to standford-Binet IQ scoring system, a genius is in the 140 or higher IQ. those make up only 2.2% of the population.potentially over one million people that would have obtained this status have been aborted since 1973. what would the effect of this on the world be? Surely, technology would be at a sustainably higher leveladdressing medical advancements, quality of life, environmental concerns, food supplies (poverty), energy needs, and potentially all worldwide concerns. If abortions were as accepted and as readily available as today in the United States, Einsteins contributions to physics, Gates development of the personal computer, and Edison’s inventive brilliance may never have happened. Even at superior levels of IQ, individuals creativity capabilities are focused in specific fields. Genius has typically been expressed in an individual’s specific capacity for reason, therefore each individual offers their own extraordinary contribution to transform mankind with their unique abilities.
            This is just an excerpt of the piece but it gives you a good idea of what it says and the idea it tries to communicate!!!

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Joe H,

            Thanks for posting the excerpt from the article. How interesting….and very sad too. It still amazes me that people can so easily toss their futures away.

          • http://naver samurai

            Rob, cite your sources moron!

    • Robert Smith

      Fro s c: >>>For now, it’s enough to make Americans understand that government and God don’t mix. <<<

      Awwww shucks, s c… All it takes is to remind folks that religion and politics don't mix is that on every sharrif's desk was a copy of the "Malleus Malificarum" during the inquisition.

      Rob

      • http://personalliberty.com Mark G

        It seems to me without God’s laws nothing would first of all exist,oh and I recently realized I’m not God either.So many think that we are here because of ourselves,that no creator with laws exist and all life just happens per chance.
        Whose laws better to follow than the one whom created us as good. Governments usually start as beautiful apparitions of opportunity for the good of the people, then the people, (elected or not) grow and manifest themselves into usual entitlement thieves, glutonous, selfish perversions in which the result is always the same, FAILURE!Study God’s laws there is 10 great ones I’ve heard.Be strong,”Now is the hour to pray Jesus forgives us and does not forsake us”.

        • kate8

          Mark, the 10 Commandments give us the recipe for successful living.
          Christ came to write these principles on our hearts, that we would seek to honor God by honoring one another.

          Don’t forget the greatest commandment: Love thy neighbor as thyself. And love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, with all thy mind, with all thy soul and with all thy strength.

          Goes along with: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

          Honoring these principles, alone, would resore our nation.

          • Karolyn

            Kate – Would you believe I agree with you?

          • Claire

            kate8–I agree too.

          • Oh Please…

            Very well said! It is also a point that amazingly seems to be missed by many. I find it hard to understand why these ‘values’ are lost or argued against in most discussions.

          • Jana

            Actually Karolyn,
            I do believe you agree with Kate8. I know I have picked on you at times, but I don’t think you are a bad person, just misinformed in some of your thinking, just as you think I am.
            I am glad you are on this site.
            Smiles

          • Karolyn

            Thanks, Jana. It’s nice to have civilized discourse.

          • Marie Mandel

            Kate, this is true. So why are some of you listening to the likes of Glen Beck, and deny others their religion?
            and their way of life. The so-called christians in this country need to remember that God created “all” So I suggest to all the haters of anti-government, anti-mexican, anti-muslims, anti-blacks. anti-gays, etc. to calm down, and STOP preaching fear and hatred. Don’t you agree?

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            Marie: God created Satan to, along with free will. Not all religions teach peace and love ( see Islam). Our country is in the classic good against evil war, not only with enemy nations but ourselves as well. Marie, whatever happened to you ? I loved you when you and your sisters had your TV show. When did you get stuck on stupid? The only think wrong with Glenn Beck is that he’s trying to tell the truth to a bunch of deaf people. Please rejoin the land of sanity and realism.

          • kate8

            Marie, I do not agree with your assessment of most of the bloggers on this site. We are not anti-(the things you said), nor are we haters.

            We are not anti-government but, rather, FOR our Republic as built upon our Constitutional framework. We are not anti-ethnicity but, rather, FOR equality and the rule of law. Not some are more equal than others, not preferencial rights, but freedom of choice. As for gays, we are not anti-gay, but rather, FOR all of us doing our own thing without having someone else force their ways on us and our children.

            If people want to come to America LEGALLY, let them embrace our culture and not force us to bow to theirs.

            For you on the left to insist that, because we want to preserve our liberty and way of life, this somehow makes us “haters” is absurd, and very tedious. Our nation is falling because our culture and our morality has been attacked and dismantled and, apparently, you libs have not yet been able to figure that out.

          • JeffH

            kate8, your response to marie was dead on.

        • Robert Smith

          From Mark G: >>> (elected or not) grow and manifest themselves into usual entitlement thieves, glutonous, selfish perversions in which the result is always the same, FAILURE<<<

          Yes, those who are in the upper tax brackets are denying the end of the "Bush" tax cuts as if America "owes" them for them becoming so rich.

          When are Americans gonna figure out that "trickle down" is something in a pants leg?

          Rob

          • Karolyn

            So right.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Robert Smith and Karolyn,

            So…I’m assuming that you think it’s perfectly acceptable to expect the rich to pay a higher percentage of their income than those considered “not rich”? If I misunderstood your comments, I apologize; however, if your answer is yes…..I believe that equates to thievery….and it is sad that many Americans pass this dirty job off to their elected officials….leaving their own hands…clean (in their minds). It is still thievery, regardless of the “thief” or the “accomplice”.

            Don’t you think it’s more reasonable that everyone pay a fair (equal) percentage of their income toward taxes? Hmmmmm….five, ten or fifteen percent of nothing is “nothing”…and five, ten or fifteen percent of a lot is………hmmmmmmm…..a “lot” more.

          • Robert Smith

            From Fed up gal: >>>I’m assuming that you think it’s perfectly acceptable to expect the rich to pay a higher percentage of their income than those considered “not rich”?<<>>I believe that equates to thievery….<<>>It is still thievery, regardless of the “thief” or the “accomplice”. <<>>Don’t you think it’s more reasonable that everyone pay a fair (equal) percentage of their income toward taxes?<<<

            Above the poverty line certainly I'm in favor of a flat tax. But with that flat tax there shouldn't be deductions for SUVs and other huge loopholes.

            Rob

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            Robert; when’s the last time a poor person signed your paycheck?

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Robert Smith,

            Whose pant leg? Your’s maybe?

            I’m not rich….it has taken me 30 years to work up to the $50K/yr salary…and that’s not on typical 8-hr days. Sure, I wish I were wealthier, but I’m not…yet I am still prosperous in many ways. The point is, while I may wish I was more financially “set”, that does not mean I’m justified in having politicians steal from those wealthier to divvy up to me or to those less financially off than me. Again, a percentage of nothing is nothing and a percentage of a lot more, is a lot more.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Robert Smith,

            Sorry for the late response; I missed your comment about the SUV when I first read your “above the poverty line” reply.

            Just saying…..My only vehicle is a 14 yr old SUV and I’ve never been able to deduct anything on taxes for the SUV…..so not sure where you are going with your comment; maybe you can expound a bit on that.

            I realize there’s a need for a tax base (for infrastructure and things that everyone must use); however, our current taxation policy is rediculous and makes fools out of all of us. A reasonable tax plan should incorporate the same tax rate percentage for everyone…..as I’ve said before….5, 10 or 15% of nothing is nothing….5, 10, or 15% of a lot more is a lot more.

            There should not be a different tax rate for anyone; everyone’s tax rate/percentage should be the same. It seems that would also take into consideration the “at” and “below” poverty line as well that you referenced.

            You may want to look further into the Fair Tax plan (approx 23% effective rate). It seems to me, to be the most reasonable tax plan out there, because it seems to level the playing field….for all players. Here’s a link to view information about what the current tax code is really costing tax payers:

            http://www.fairtax.org/site/DocServer/What_the_federal_tax_system_is_costing_you-Tax_complianc.pdf?docID=7581

            Once in the [fairtax.org] site, you should be able to navigate to find more information about the fair tax plan, questions raised by critics and answers to those questions.

            For the record, I have a small rental property which I am able to receive some tax deductions for. Thus far, the tax deductions do help me keep the rents affordable for tenants; however, with the recent property tax increase in my state (all while property values have declined)…I may not be able maintain the property at the current rental rates…time will tell. With a fair tax code, I feel it would benefit not only me….it would benefit my tenants as well since I could afford to make improvements and upgrades to the property while keeping the rents affordable. Just my thought!

        • Robert Smith

          Hey Mark G, you can go for an alternative view at: http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/09/02/hawking.god.universe/index.html?hpt=C1

          Remember Steven Hawkings, one of the greatest thinkers of our time?

          Rob

    • cheryl

      Glen Beck says that he definatly does not have any desire to run for office. So..he’s free to be as Out Spoken about God as he chooses to.

    • alpha-lemming

      Very true. But, to educate/ripen/progress without instilling morals (religious tenets) is to create the WORST kind of monster. Honor has been lost to politics/politicians for a VERY LONG TIME.

      I’ll make a “blanket assertion” and lay the moral decline solely at the feet of Dems. Republicans have been caught mis-behaving, the party is branded as hypocrits (by the left), and the voters remove the violators from office. Arguably, three of the most popular libs in recent memory… one’s a rapist, one’s a murderer, one’s an uber-racist… not only survived their “peccadillos”, they enhanced their resumes and became super-stars among their amoral accolytes. By comparison, lying, cheating and stealing is such “small potatoes”, it hardly warrants mentioning. The ends justify the means. The scummier the behavior, the bigger the super-star status, and the reason the Dems (progressive/lib/Marxists) own “lock, stock, & barrel” the “Biggest A-holes on the Planet Award”.

      Small wonder why an “Honor Rally” is considered novel/revolutionary.

      • kate8

        alpha, There has always been a double-standard when it comes to the left. Republicans have been forced out by only the appearance of misconduct, without even proof.

        No one expects exemplary behavior from the left. They shed a tear on occasion, ask for forgiveness, and get promoted.

        Nowdays they don’t even really do that. They simply deny it, and go on as usual.

        Unfortunately, the right has become hijacked by progressives as well, so the difference between the two is narrowing. That is why they all need to go.

        • Robert Smith

          From kate8: >>>No one expects exemplary behavior from the left.<<<

          Absolutely true, and I hope it continues that way. They aren't hypocrits about their behavior.

          Barny Frank is an excellent example. There isn't anything wrong with being gay. He was honest about it. He's been kept in Congress by folks who appreciate where he STANDS on ISSUES, not who he LAYS with.

          Those on the extreme right hide who they are. What else are they lying about?

          Rob

      • Karolyn

        I got this email today. Please read to the end.:

        Even if you aren’t a sports fan this is very interesting!

        36 have been accused of spousal abuse
        7 have been arrested for fraud
        19 have been accused of writing bad checks
        117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
        3 have done time for assault
        71 … repeat 71
        Cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
        14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
        8 have been arrested for shoplifting
        21 currently are defendants in lawsuits,
        And
        84 have been arrested for drunk driving
        In the last year
        Can You guess which organization this is?
        NBA Or NFL ?

        Give up yet?

        Scroll down,

        Neither,
        it’s the 535 members of the
        United States Congress

      • Karolyn

        I would bet that most policticians do get into politics for the right reasons. Unfortunately, one they get there, they get swept up by the crowd and everything changes.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Karaokyn, The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak, to turn away corruption.

        • kate8

          Karolyn, Would you believe that I agree with you?

          • Karolyn

            Cool! :-)

          • Jana

            Karolyn,
            LOL and I agree with you too.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Karolyn,
          while I agree with you in part, I still believe there are a good number go into it eyes wide open and do exactly what they want immoral or not!!!

    • Anne from Jersey

      Despite the rhetoric concerning what the secular belief system, the media, and left-wing propaganda try to ram down the throats of Americans in so so many different ways and on many different levels…You are completely wrong! What Glen should ONLY worry about is getting shot by some anti-God, left wing lunatic!

      We need someone who will have the courage to talk about the very thing that is needed: “Restoring Honor.” And if that means talking about God, well oh well…

      • Karolyn

        I would think that Beck has less of a chance getting shot by a liberal than the president has getting shot by a conservative. In my observation, it seems that more people hate Obama than Beck. Beck is not hated but just viewed as a rabble rousing extremist buffoon. BTW Anne, where in Jersey do you live? I’m from central Jersey (all my life) up til 5 years ago.

        • Claire

          Karolyn–Correct again. Good for you– for speaking your mind.

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            You ladies are living proof why women shouldn’t be allowed to vote. You “feel” rather than “think” That’s how Carter, Clinton, and BO got into office. you believe the fantasy instead of the reality. Thankfully most women have evolved beyond the “feeling” phase.

          • libertytrain

            gunner – I “felt” that Clinton was an ass, I “felt” that Obama was all smoke and mirrors. I’m glad I “felt” that way. And I didn’t vote for Carter either -

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Gunner,
            I do think the LADY just gave you your come-uppance!!!!

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            Joe: not really, she just confused “feel” for natural intuition. One is based on emotion the other is based on Devine Guidence.

          • libertytrain

            gunner – you might be right, I am an artist and we are supposed to be more “intuitive.” ——————– :)

          • Angel Wannabe

            Gunner, Sounds to me like your thinking with the little head again!

        • Christin

          I disagree…
          Beck IS HATED by the radical left as he is exposing their “Crime Inc.” and talking about God/ Jesus. Glenn has been threatened (he wore a bullet proof vest to the Restoring Honor Rally)and several of obama’s “friends” have conspired to take him down (to lose commercial sponsors, discredit FOX, and find “sex dirt”on him) and ruin his reputation and livelihood. The left behaves like an angry mob throwing things, hitting and biting those that do not agree with them, and busing in people to raise cain on people’s front porch if they so wish. Riot police are constantly brought in and many arrests are made at protests.

          Whereas, obama is despised by the conservative right for over-riding the Constitution of the United States of America, taking away their Freedoms and Rights, growing expensive gov, growing the debt, forcing obamacare, cap & trade, net neutrality, strong arming/threatening Banks, CEO’s…appoligizing for America world wide and not calling us a Christian nation… (I could go on forever). The right behaves well and there is never a call for riot police and no arrests are made. Conservative protests and rallies have been pleasent and people are polite.

          Which group of people would you feel safe in…

          • Karolyn

            Gee, it’s too bad that we have a superhuman president who is responsible for all the ills in our country and who can also fix everything with a wave of his hand if he so wished. So why did all these crazy, hateful liberals not show up and spoil the day? It really is something that liberals are responsible for every evil there is. Wow! On the other hand, Christian conservatives never do wrong and get all their info straight from the mouth of God. Their battle cry is “Onward Christian Soldiers” and they are without sin, shining in their armour on white stallions. The liberals are all dressed in BLACK (the DEVIL’s color!) and are on black stallions.

            Get real.

          • Christin

            An angry response as always.
            It’s okay if we don’t agree.

            BTW
            A superhuman would not have ills!

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Christin,
            I agree with you about Beck. There was even a group that started a web site that stated that he was guilty of raping a girl!!! this came about right after he exposed Van Jones’s being a communist. They said he presented false proof when he did it so it was O.K. for them to present false things about him!! Never mind that he presented solid proof in Jones, own words!!!! I wouldn’t put an attempt on Glenns life past people like that as they KNEW what they were saying was false and it could ruin his life!!!

          • kate8

            Actually, there were some leftwing plants that showed up at the Beck rally. They tried to make trouble, but the people there surrounded them and chanted “we’ll pray for you, we’ll pray for you”.

            The lefties didn’t have a prayer, so to speak.

          • Christin

            Joe H., I did not know that about the attack website with false info on Glenn. It is ashame that wrong is not punished on the left as it would be on the right.
            Nor did I know that the Lefty’s showed up to cause trouble at Glenn’s Rally, kate8. It seems the people handled it well, though.

            Thanks for the info.

          • Karolyn

            Kat – I would disagree with the word “plants” unless there’s proof. When we start using words like that, I think it’s unnecessary goading.

          • kate8

            Karolyn, Beck reported on the leftys who were there to make trouble. They were routed out and asked to leave.

            I have no reason to believe Glenn was untruthful about that. It’s all on video.

            There are leftist groups, like those from ACORN and SEIU who have routinely attended these types of events to try to make the attendees look bad. Some of it has made the news, but was revealed as “plants”.

            The fact is, Karolyn, that radical leftists do this as part of their “work”. Just as they come and hammer us on these threads. They are angry and spiteful, and seek to disrupt the plans of those who want to bring back our Republic.

            Generally, although the right may vehemently disagree with the actions of the left, and even see them as dangerous, they do not try to stop them from speaking. The left, on the other hand, tries every tactic up to, and including, legislating them into silence.

            Now, you tell me is the greater threat.

          • Marie Mandel

            Christin are you on drugs?

          • kate8

            Marie, are you stupid or just rude?

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Marie Mandel,

            Well….if Christin is on drugs….I won’t what she ordered….better than the peyote you seem to be smoking.

          • JeffH

            Christin, I can agree with your take on Beck, spot on, but I feel the beggest problem with Obama, other than his Marxist/Socialist/communist roots and agenda, is that he has taken the hand-off from previous administrations(Repub & Dem)and is running at top speed to destroy our country and ultimately put America under the hands of global rule. Disinchantment with previous administrations have created the national discourse we see towards our government. It is more apparent every day that he’s a puppet, unable to lead anything but the sheeple to the trough. He’s a community organizer that can’t speak 3 words without saying “ummm, hmmm, huh” unless he has a teleprompter.

          • JeffH

            kate8, we’ve known the left has always used plants(SEIU)in their attempts to discredit any group gathering they see as a threat to their liberalism.
            just a few Tea Party tax day ralliy examples:
            1. Racist Leftist Infiltrators Driven From Tea Party Rallies by Jim Hoft
            Leftist and racist infiltrators were forced to flee at tea party rallies in St. Louis, San Francisco, Oceanside and Greensboro.
            Patriots -4 Alinsky Thugs -0
            2. In Greensboro, North Carolina local police put the kibosh on a disguised tea party protester.
            3. In Oceanside, the tea party patriots drove out another leftist infiltrator from their event too.
            4. Even at the rally in San Francisco, the patriots had pink arrows to point at the few leftists who infiltrated their protest today.

            Unfortunately for the left, their Alinksy tactics backfired at the Tax Day Tea Party rallies. The radicals lost on Tax Day.

            http://biggovernment.com/jhoft/2010/04/16/racist-leftist-infiltrators-driven-from-tea-party-rallies/

          • JeffH

            What Retired Spook Saw at the Restoring Honor Rally
            Posted by Mark Noonan in Patriotism on August 31st, 2010

            It was probably the most spiritually uplifting event that my wife and I ever participated in, and we came away feeling renewed and rededicated to playing our part in making this country a better place.

            The one accurate account that I did read later said that, in a crowd that extended nearly a mile from end to end, there were no arrests, and the only incidents that require police intervention were from a couple small groups of Leftist plants who brought some ugly signs up on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial and were asked to leave.
            http://blogsforvictory.com/2010/08/31/what-retired-spook-saw-at-the-beck-rally/comment-page-1/

          • kate8

            JeffH – That’s so cool that you went to the Honor Rally! Way to go!

            I think this rally has had a reverberating effect on large numbers of patriots. It has filled us with the spirit of hope and determination.

            Victory is ours, because we are on the side of liberty and wholeness.

          • Robert Smith

            Hi Christin,

            Let’s deal with reality here. You claim about Obama: >>>growing expensive gov, growing the debt,<<>>When President George W. Bush entered the White House in January 2001, the federal government had total revenues of slightly more than $2.03 trillion and expenditures of $1.79 trillion, leaving a budget surplus of slightly less than $240 billion.<<<

            There is a graph there that traces the growth in federal government tax receipts and expenditures and resulting surpluses or deficits over the last eight years. (Source: The 2008 Statistical Abstract, U.S. Census Bureau)

            It clearly shows the trend of more spending, lower income, and more debt on the way BEFORE 911. The excuse of a couple of wars, etc. is a lie.

            Expenses can be controlled. Remember George Bush's no bid situation on medicine that became so expensive folks went to Canada for exactly the same thing? Then he tried to make buying elsewhere illegal. That isn't free enterprise!

            Rob

        • Fed Up Gal in NM

          Karolyn,

          I think liberals (of which group you seem to relate too) feel about Beck the way we conservatives feel about Obama’s administration. You call it hating Obama….I call it “hating Obama’s sorry excuse of a plan, pathetic attempt to unite the country….yada yada yada.

          • JeffH

            Fed Up Gal in NM, I agree with you, although I find the use of the word “hate” despicable by anyone. That’s just my opinion though and I refuse to carry it in my vocabulary. The fact is that the liberals have a “patent” on the word “hate” and use it as freely as: the, and, a, of…you get my drift.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Jeff H,

            I do get it, and yes…you are right about the use of the word. As I am a flawed Christian and human…I should try and and remove it from my vocabulary as well. Thanks for the appropriate reminder!

      • Robert Smith

        From Anne from Jersey: >>>What Glen should ONLY worry about is getting shot by some anti-God, left wing lunatic! <<<

        I imagine that some will want to get 'em, just like abortion doctors have been shot down. After all, doesn't Beck advocate for the money changers? Do you think it would be the same kind of nut, or something different than an abortion doctor assin?

        Rob

      • Robert Smith

        Hi Ann from Jersey! You said: >>>.” And if that means talking about God,<<<

        What if it is "Goddess?"

        If God is created in our image, half of us are female.

        Rob

        • http://naver samurai

          What a half witted remark from a lib!

    • giley1

      Mr. Becks’ DC event was a good example of the thirst that this country has to return to our Christian and Jewdeo values. However, our country’s demographics have drastically changed. We must respect ones’ choice to worship in a church of choice. What is really needed more than anything else is a re-newel of our history and values. A re-newel of what our founding fathers meant for this country to become and prosper. We have a world that is getting very diverse and too many who come here do not want to assimilate but rather have us accomodate them and change our values to do so. Our schools need to do a better job or teaching our history worts and all. One thing that is not acceptable is the attempt to impose Sharia law on us. This will never work or happen. It is totally incompatible with our Democracy and rule of law.

    • Dale

      Consider some wisdom!!! Separation of Church and Government? What is foolish is to separate what a person is and what they do. People do things based upon what they are!!!

      You can’t totally separate the person and what they believe without ending up with a MONSTER.

      If you want leaders that have no belief system then you are crazy. The leader would do nothing that he/she is not told to do or only do what benefits them or those who agree with them. Tolerance of those who disagree or oppose them in any way would cause hate – which is built on un-forgiveness.

      Even Communists, Marxists, Socialists have mutual belief systems – it becomes their religion to destroy religion and make everyone like them – whether they want it or not. If non-believers are too much of a nuisance – simply kill them.

      The simple fact is – “As a man thinks in his (her)heart, so is he (she).” If the anchor of ones life is anything less than some moral ethics then life becomes irrelevant (why not just kill anyone you don’t like?).

      You can’t totally separate the person and what they believe without ending up with a MONSTER.

      Atheism gives no basis for respect of anyone or anything because it lowers man to animal status and life becomes insignificant. If a person has any respect for anyone else it will be merely because it fulfills his/her needs and desires – otherwise others are just insignificant and irrelevant nuisances, especially if they don’t agree with you.

      Christianity says to love everyone, even your enemy. Then God empowers the person to follow that rule. The challenge is that no one is perfect and everyone does what they want to do sometimes rather than to follow God’s instructions.

      There are people that call themselves Christian that don’t follow God hardly at all or try to make God in their image rather than to let God change them, their attitudes, their ways. Just as it is wrong to look at all Blacks or Whites from the opposite race and pre-judge (prejudice) the other race based on what a few do, it is just as wrong to do the same to people of faith. When one becomes unteachable, inflexible, and set in their ways then they are a problem to themselves and others.

      The fact is that people believe in some god (money, God, government, rock star, etc). They are religious, it is what they are. To separate peoples humanity from Government is ridiculous. A Christian will act Christian. A Socialist will act Socialist.

      If you remove morality from the equation then it becomes personal moral ethics or social ethics based on everyone trying to tolerate and be tolerated by others. It is based out of fear or lust rather than genuine love.

      • Karolyn

        I agree with some of what you said Dale. However, just because someone is an atheist does not make them a bad person. Socialists are not necessarily any worse as far as morals and values than anybody else either. I don’t think I’ve ever face-to-face talked to an atheist, but I have heard them interviewed; and they are like anybody else – concerned about their families, their health, the economy, etc. they love and are loved. The work and support their families. They are just people with different views on life and spirituality. A label does not necessarily make the man. “You can’t judge a book by its cover.”

        • Robert Smith

          Hi Karolyn,

          You posted: >>> I don’t think I’ve ever face-to-face talked to an atheist, <<<

          Or maybe a Boddist, Pagan, etc.

          I'm sure you have. Your pharmacist, banker, someone at the gas station… They are simply people going about their lives. They don't wear marks like six pointed stars on their cloths because it ain't nobody's business or gays who had to wear a triangle. Most Americans don't talk about religion much and those who are in a minority talk less.

          Rob

          Rob

        • http://gunner689 gunner689

          Karolyn: where do you buy your naivity pills? Do you get a free pair of rose-colored glasses with each bottle ? How about that back rub you promised ?

      • Marie Mandel

        Dale, that was brilliant

      • Robert Smith

        From Dale: >>>You can’t totally separate the person and what they believe without ending up with a MONSTER.<<<

        Really? What do you call people who put others on the rack? What do you call people who burn others at the stake?

        What do you call people who will claim to condemn others to eternal hell for alleged "sins?"

        Rob

    • Michael D.

      sc, For the most part i agree with you but it is most important to impress upon young people especially is that our basic human rights come from a higher power, not from gov’t. When we completely lose religion from gov’t politicians like obama and pelosi will take everything away from us. The Constitution will be worthless.

      • Robert Smith

        Hey Michael D.!

        You want to teach our kids: >>>it is most important to impress upon young people especially is that our basic human rights come from a higher power, not from gov’t. <<<

        Incorrect, Michael. It appears you do have some respect for our Constitution but it also appears you are quite ignorant of it.

        Let us begin the first lesson with, "We the people…" Have you ever heard those words? Our Constitution doesn't get it's teeth from a "higher power" or government. It is from US, the people.

        I can understand how you might have not gotten that point if you went to one of them there christian schools that limits one's education. It's curable. Just read the Constitution. Please think about, "We the people" and what that means. It doesn't say someone's god, etc. The Founders were correct. They dealt with reality.

        "We the people…" Kinda catchy, isn't.

        Rob

  • Doc Sarvis

    As long as Glen Beck, or anyone else, does not specify what religon is acceptable then he would be correct that that would be better for America.

    • Kinetic1

      Time and time again, Beck has made it clear that it is the Christian God to which he refers. With David Barton at his side to explain how every one of our founding fathers was a solid Christian, Beck sells the idea that only a strong, fundamental Christian leadership will save us. It’s hard to watch someone profess such devotion to our nations “true” history, the memory of it’s founders and the constitution while he walks all over them.

      • David

        Walks all over the founder???? Please explain and give an example.

        • Jana

          Kinectic1,
          Then you haven’t listened to Beck, as he has said what ever your faith is, and he has stated Synagogue, Temple, Mosque Church etc.

          Its funny how people’s own words reveal so much.

        • Kinetic1

          Please read down a few.

      • Michael J.

        Kenatic1,
        You said,”With David Barton at his side to explain how every one of our founding fathers was a solid Christian”. Actually Beck explains that the vast majority of the founders were Judeo / Christian.

        And also, “Walks all over the founders”? You should listen to Beck yourself instead of parroting Matthews, Olbermann or Maddow.

        • Lynda B.

          1Corithians 1:25 For what seems to be God’s foolishness is wiser than human wisdom, and what seems to be God’s weakness is stronger than human strength. Good News Bible.

          1Co 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

          Proverbs 29:2 When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn. kjv.

          This Country was founded on the principles of God. Weather one chooses to believe in Jesus Christ is a chose, but that does not change the fact that this government was very involved with Christianity. This Nation has tried to remove Jesus Christ and Christian values from everything and allowed anything and everything else to proceed at will. Man has tried to blame our problems on everything and everyone, but the fact is, we have turned our backs on the God that has blessed this country. Call me shallow or anything you prefer, but I will take the Word of Almighty God over anyone’s worldly knowledge or insight. I believe there is one God and only one God, and I also believe that Glenn Beck is speaking to the whole nation to the point that we do have that right to choose. God gives us that right. Until this nation turns back to God there will be no peace or prosperity.

          • Christin

            Lynda B. so right. Thanks for the Bible verses especially loved Proverbs 29:2.

            Proverbs 29: 2

            “When the righteous are in authority,
            the people rejoice;
            but when the wicked rule,
            the people groan.”

            We are groaning folks and we are miserable… the wicked are ruling.

            It is an ALL call back to our Judeo/Christian heritage to serve and worship our Almighty God and he will bless our faithfulness.

          • http://yahoo Lola K

            A-MEN Very well stated. I also beleave GOD is the only answer.

          • Nina

            You go girl!!

        • Kinetic1

          Michael J.
          I listen to beck often. In fact, I have three of his shows on my DVR right now. I often find myself learning a thing or two from Beck, only to find that he is leading to a conclusion that leaves me questioning when he switched trains.

          As to my comments regarding Beck and Barton, as I have stated before, this idea that there is ample proof of, say Jefferson’s actual belief in Christianity is bunk. Barton holds up a document signed by Jefferson that reads “in the year of our lord, Jesus” and states that this and hundreds of others were written in his own hand. This “proof” is a shipping manifest, a pre printed fill in the blank form. The design of the forms was the same for decades and reflected the style of many countries. All Jefferson, or for that matter Washington, Madison and Adams did was to sign in the correct spot. His “hundreds of examples” reflects that fact that these were all the same form and prove nothing. On the other hand, Jefferson wrote time and again about his indifference for the church and his belief that the church should not be involved in our government. That they chose to ignore as secular propaganda.

          So how do they walk on our founders and the Constitution? God was left out of the Constitution for a reason. Our founders agreed that the Federal Government should never adopt an official religion, and yet these two men, along with many other guests continue to proclaim that this is a Christian nation founded on the words of the Bible. They argue that our founders were speaking of Christian sects, not Christianity in general, ignoring our founders own words with regards to “Musselmen” and others. They ignore the words of documents like the 1797 Treaty of Tripoli which reads “As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion…” In their quest to bring us all into the fold, they threaten the very document they profess to defend.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Kinnetic,
            how then, do you explain that Jefferson held services in the capitol building??? Many religeons most were CHRISTIAN!!!

          • Jana

            Kinectic,
            You asked me on another post what I knew about your faith. From this very post we all know quite a lot about what you believe. You are a great writer of many words.

          • Kinetic1

            Perhaps, Jana, but my religion has nothing to do with history. Whether I am Christian, Bahai or Deist I firmly believe, as did many of our founders that no one religion should be espoused by our government. There will always be moral issues that Americans disagree about, but the basic rules of life are universal. Neither my religion or yours is necessary to govern.

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            Kinetic1:
            you’ve brought up a very good point; the Treaty of Tripoli.
            The reason that treaty exisits is then as now Muslims were a bunch of blood thirsty cretins who got their ass handed to them by the United States Marine Cops; my alma mater.

      • Freeme

        It is very difficult for those immersed in indoctrination education to get to the truth via REAL historical data. Instead of reading and listening to the HISTORIANS who have spent their lives RESEARCHING REAL DOCUMENTS from LIBRARY OF CONGRESS ARCHIVES, they would rather take the word of some mainstream media joker, than to LEARN THE TRUTH.
        Beck has had many guests on his show who know what they’re talking about regarding Founding Fathers, but isnt it so much easier to watch an HBO series on John Adams and NOT QUESTION how much was truth vs. fiction? Young Americans are so dumbed down in History it is pathetic, nor do they have a clue what The Constitution is or how important it ‘could be’ to them if ONLY they KNEW. NO WHERE IN THE CONSITUTION does it mention “separation of church and State”…
        That was invented by atheists and/or agnostic Commie-type think, (and supported by commie-founders of ACLU) to dissolve religions and churches, which is also part of the Universities Indoctrination Agenda. RESEARCH for truth…it will set you free.

        • Lubo

          Excellent commentary!

        • marvin

          the seperation of church and state was from a letter wrote to the danbury babtist from jefferson

          • Christin

            Marvin is right on this one.
            Jefferson was in England when he wrote that, but he did not intend on it meaning what the liberal hate groups ( AFL-CIO, ACLU, athiest, homosexual agenda) have twisted it to become today.

        • Angel Wannabe

          Freeme, your right, there is no claus stating a separation between church and state, if someone found one, it was probably in Wiki, where ANYONE can haphazardly change the truth to lies and vis versaM at will.

      • J. Overstreet

        You obviously do not watch his show. Let me point this out: Glenn Beck is a Mormon and many, many Christians see Momonism as a cult. He says almost every day “whoever you call God”. He had Pastors, Priests, Rabbis, AND Imams standing with him at the podium.(And there may have been a Buddist as well, but I’m not positive about this.) They had a prayer meeting together the night before.
        One thing that is missing in this country is the freedom to talk about your faith. I personally have been severly come against as have my children and I assure you I am not an in your face Christian. I want both sides told and we in America – especially in education – are not given that right. BTW I am a teacher on a reservation and there is more tolerence here than anywhere I have been and my dad was in the USAF. I can actually wear a cross here and not worry about losing my job. This was not so in Portland OR.
        My point is that we talk about choice all the time, but are come against when we make a different one. Mr. Beck is encouraging us to stand against these things -AFTER WE GET OUR OWN HEARTS RIGHT!!!

        • http://reply C. Taylor

          If we could rid this country of the ACLU and lots of other self serving organizations, all of us could regain our God given rights as well as those in the US Constitution and The Bill of Rights. Only then will we be truly free.

          • AMJ

            Since I was about 15 years old (30 years ago) I have believed the ACLU is the Devil’s playground. He makes a lot of progress with that group.

          • Karolyn

            I think the ACLU started out good. Now it’s just too extreme. However, I’m sure they do some good.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Karolyn,
            Sorry, it seems I am picking on you and I’m really not. I disagree as any good the ACLU does is outweighed a thousand times by the BAD!!! they have made it possible for child molesters to go free to commit again, killers go free to kill again, and have argued AGAINST the constitution many times!!!

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            The ACLU was founded by American communists whose agenda was to subvert and incrementally destroy American democracy and freedom. They’ve done a hell of a good job of it to.

        • kate8

          J. O, Thanks for that post.

          How outrageous that the Christian taxpayer has to pay to glorify Ilam in schools, provide footbaths and prayer rooms in schools and public places, and show all kinds of preference for Islam, while forbidding a Christian from wearing a cross!

          Satan has been very busy.

          • Angel Wannabe

            kate 8. yes satan’s been busy, but America’s gettin on the ball now, with alot of TRUE spiritual leaders.

          • kate8

            Angel, God always wins.

            Maybe He just lets us go so far so we can see what a miserable lot we are without Him.

            We just keep repeating the same mistakes over and over….

          • kate8

            BTW, God always raises people up in His time. It is usually the ones you’d least expect, too. They are not usually the religious leaders, as in clergy. They often have questionable pasts, but respond to His calling. Just look at the heros of the Bible.

            Proclaiming God’s Truth is a scary place to be. Not many have the courage to place themselves as a target of the evil power-mongers. Glenn needs our prayers for the safety of him and his family.

          • Angel Wannabe

            kate 8, oddly enough my husband an I were talking about the same basic thing a little while ago (it’s alittle deep).. I believe, We are all, each of us in a different place spiritually. Each on a different plane. Some are farther than others, in our own comprehension & walk with Christ. I think it depends largely on what we’ve been through as individuals, our perception, our sensitivity, and our willingness to study Gods word, to just go be still for a time, shut your mind off, and listen.

          • Angel Wannabe

            kate8, I have a sayin I’ve used for years, I always say “God uses the stinkers in life”__It doesn’t mattter where ya been, what you’ve done, how bad ya been if we’re called, we pick up our cross and begin again!

          • Kinetic1

            What schools are you talking about? Certainly not any that my kids have attended.

          • kate8

            Kinetic, I don’t know where you live, but it’s in textbooks all over the nation. Islam is painted as a great religion, and Christianity is portrayed as war-mongering and backward.

            Here in CA, grade-school students were required to dress in Islamic garb and observe Muslim practice, like praying 5 times a day. Parents were outraged, but no one really cares what parents think anymore. In fact, a district court in CA just ruled that parents have no right to question, or even know, what their kids are being taught. Once they are enrolled in public school, they become property of the state.

          • Kinetic1

            Kate8,
            My children have attended public schools in both northern and southern California. I have always been involved in their schools and I have NEVER heard of such a thing. The closest we came was when my daughter wore a dreidel costume and they added a Kwanzaa song to our Christmas program. I have searched for articles about the practices you mentioned, but nothing comes up. Can you direct me to some proof?

          • kate8

            Kinetic, This issue has been in and out of the news, and addressed by partental rights groups off an on over the past 2 or 3 years. There has been quite a furor over it at times, in fact.

            The school text and exercises have been exposed and hotly debated. They have been reproduced and plastered over information sites, for anyone to read about.

            If you haven’t paid attention enough to know what has gone on, it is not my responsibility to do the research for you, and I don’t have time for it, anyway. If you care enough, you’ll do it on your own.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            kate8,
            there was a college in the news awhile back thatrecieves government funds that had to install seperate dressingroom ans shower facilities for Muslim girls as it was against their beliefs to be “viewed by non-believers! Also, it was revealed that a college in one Michigan town wastold they had to interupt classes if the holy time of prayer was during class!! I wonder where the liberals holy seperation of church and state is in these examples???

      • Bruce D.

        There is nothing wrong for Beck to express and profess his religion. David Barton has researched the relationship with the ‘founders’ and their religious beliefs. There is nothing wrong with that. Obama has credited Muslims with Americas rise to knowledge and prosperity. Why would you not allow Beck or Barton to make associations also. Beck is a firm believer in freedom of religion and the constitution. Anyone that says different Kinetic1 just does not know what they are talking about.

      • Robert Smith

        From Kinetic1: >>>With David Barton at his side to explain how every one of our founding fathers was a solid Christian,<<<

        Bunk. Franklin was all but an atheist. Jefferson had little to do with Jesus.

        Rob

        • mj

          The dirt in their closets is the reason they would not make a Christian stand.

          • Bob

            Ben Franlin spent most of his time bedding down other men’ wives.

          • Bruce D.

            Bob you should be ashamed of yourself for slandering a great man like Ben Frankland in that way. It is true he had a child out of wedlock but you cannot find any writings during his time to make the statement you did. You are just part of this mindless anti-American trite from the liberal left.

        • Bruce D.

          Robert,
          You are misinformed about both Franklin and Jefferson. They were not atheists, they were deists. This is common knowledge. There certainly were not anti-christain or anti-god as you appear to be.

          • Robert Smith

            Hey Bruce D… You sure do need a fact injection. Haven’t you ever heard of the Jefferson Bible?

            Google it or go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible

            From that article: >>>Using a razor, Jefferson cut and arranged selected verses from the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John in chronological order, mingling excerpts from one text to those of another in order to create a single narrative. Thus he begins with Luke 2 and Luke 3, then follows with Mark 1 and Matthew 3. He provides a record of which verses he selected and of the order in which he arranged them in his “Table of the Texts from the Evangelists employed in this Narrative and of the order of their arrangement.”

            The Jefferson Bible begins with an account of Jesus’s birth without references to angels, genealogy, or prophecy. Miracles, references to the Trinity and the divinity of Jesus, and Jesus’ resurrection are also absent from the Jefferson Bible.[5] The work ends with the words: “Now, in the place where he was crucified, there was a garden; and in the garden a new sepulchre, wherein was never man yet laid. There laid they Jesus. And rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.” These words correspond to the ending of John 19 in the Bible.

            [edit] Publication history
            After completion of the Life and Morals, about 1820, Jefferson shared it with a number of friends, but he never allowed it to be published during his lifetime.

            The most complete form Jefferson produced was inherited by his grandson, Thomas Jefferson Randolph, and was published in 1895 by the National Museum in Washington.

            The book was later published as a lithographic reproduction by an act of the United States Congress in 1904. For many years copies were given to new members of Congress.[6] The text is in the public domain and freely available on the Internet.<<<

            Rob

        • Bruce D.

          I did not say he was a Christian Robert. I said he was a Deist. I was aware of that writing but never read. Not believing in Christianity and openly being hostile towards it and/or God are two different things Robert.

      • mj

        The thing speaks for itself. We were once a blessed nation, we are now on the verge of becoming a third world(cursed).

      • libertytrain

        It kind of just struck me (clearly not a lightening bolt from God) that perhaps what Beck is doing is making it ok for Christians to once again speak out in public — as the Muslims are allowed to do in the name of political correctness – perhaps Beck is just retaking a stance Christians seem to have lost in the last several years, in full view of the public, that’s it is indeed ok to say, I believe in God, I believe in Christ – And making it politically correct once again, to be a Christian out loud, to pray in public – I’m just thinking out loud here too….

        • Christin

          I don’t think this was his original intent, liberty train, but it is a great by-product. We have been shut up for too long… more than a decade or so. Freedom to have our First Amendment Rights back again.

          I believe Glenn’s original intent was as he has said all along to “Restore Honor” in ourselves and give “merit” to those who actually earn it with their selfless actions. We must return to God with our families and get right with Him, then we can stand on God’s side and do His will.

        • http://www.cafepress.com/TradThoughts UnPCdMOM

          I agree that could be

          but he is also ‘in recovery’ where one of the steps forward is believing in and turning things over to a Higher Power (aka God in many people’s upbringing)

          A return to the Golden Rule and 10 Commandments would not hurt anyone in America.

          Having separate rules. laws and ‘justice’ for different groups is killing the American Dream and the dividing our Nation.

          I hope that GOD BLESSES AMERICA again, we have much work in cleansing ourselves and uniting under all things good, for that to happen. Each of us bears a responsibility for our own life nut also to family, God and country.

        • kate8

          libertytrain, Do you notice how the left always seeks to denigrate and crush the status quo in the name of providing “equality” for the minorities?

          They feel the need to slap down “whitey” in order to elevate blacks. They need to destroy Christianity in order to allow Islam to flourish.

          How does this make any sense? What happened to freedom for all?

          What appears to some to be “civil rights” is nothing more than a deceptive tool for enslavement for all.

          Never has worked to create anything good. Never will. And good is not the reason for which it is intended.

          • libertytrain

            When I was younger I didn’t think that way, but at 18 or so when I was looking for employment, I lost out specifically, and was told specifically, because they needed to hire a person of color so they would not be deemed racist – yep, I think that light started to turn on in my brain back then. Yes, perhaps I’m a little slow but there sure have been many observations over the years that smacked of cow manure being served to we the people…

        • Karolyn

          You obviously don’t live in the South. When I first moved here, it floored me that people at the cash registers, on completion of your transaction, would say “Have a blest day.” It is quite the opposite here. I do not believe as they do and have to be careful who I talk to otherwise I will be shunned. On the other hand, even here in the Bible belt, there is a great deal of acceptance.

      • Warrior

        Interesting to see how some view the truth as a threat.

      • Tunaman

        Some more goobelde goock by an airhead on the left!!!

      • Ron

        I Think you’re mistaken; Glenn had Muslims, Jewish, and a variety of all faiths on the stage. He comes from a Christian back ground, but he is pushing the 9-12 agenda. Even if you’re an atheist you should be able to agree with those principles.

      • Karolyn

        WRONG!! How can anyone say that the only way for this country to rise is if we all believe the same thing?

      • Fed Up Gal in NM

        Kinetic,

        Yet…I don’t hear/see you complaining about radical Muslims that claim Allah tells them to kill those who don’t conform to the Muslim religion….the “infadels”…..hmmmmmmm….I think that would be….us!….Christians and maybe atheists too since to my knowledge atheists don’t believe any God….not just our Christian God.

    • Robert Smith

      From Doc Sarvis: >>>As long as Glen Beck, or anyone else, does not specify what religon is acceptable then he would be correct that that would be better for America.<<<

      I'm sure that the Jews, Pagans, Bahai', Druids, Budists…

      I'm sure they will enthusiasticaly agree with you.

      Those who will disagree with you are the "right" kind of christians who don't think Bishop Spong is a christian.

      Rob

      • Karolyn

        Robert -Why can you not respect others’ spiritual beliefs? Being Christian does not automatically make one right and good, just like being Muslim doesn’t make one a terrorist.

        • kate8

          Karolyn, It’s not about religion. It’ about how we conduct our lives. The principles of truth, honor, respect, compassion, love…just happen to come straight out of Judeo-Christian teachings. Actually practising these virtues would save us.

          If a religion teaches that one should force others into conversion or kill them, then I really don’t want those folks as my neighbors.

          • Karolyn

            Absolutely. And I will say it again. Not all Muslims are terrorists and want to kill the infidel. Actually, I just saw on TV yesterday where someone is starting an advertising campaign spotlighting Muslim-Americans talking about how much they love this country. They showed a few clips, and one was of a bunch of cute kids – just like any cute Christian kids.

          • Christin

            It’s all propaganda, Karolyn.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Karolyn,
            That is nothing more than a cheap(?) advertising stunt to drum up support for the ground zero vicinity, (there i said it for all the bleeding hearts)Mosque!!! That has even been revealed on the alphabets!!!

          • Karolyn

            Joe – I strongly disagree. I believe it’s an attempt for human beings to try to get the message across that they are people too and deserve to live a peaceful and safe life. BTW – the proposed center will not be a mosque and only has $10,000 raised so far out of the millions they need.

  • George Florida

    The odds of these three things happening as they did must be one in ten million !

    1. Just as the musical introduction stopped, there was a “flyover”
    Geese in their usual Vee formation flew from the Washington Monument directly over the reflecting pool.
    2. Despite the cheering and loud noises of the throngsbelow they maintained their heading and altitude so that the maximum number of people would be able to apprecite their appearance.

    View the “flyover” of Washington DC on 8-28-10
    http://www.glennbeck.com/content/videos/?uri=channels/390088/1013204

    Coincidence ? Ithink nOT !

  • MrTim

    Beck is right! We do need a real change in this country.
    400,000 other people must think, We need a change also.
    Awake up Washington

    • Martaan

      I agree MrTim…I also think that like the big Tea Party event (9/12), for every person that was there….there was 25-40 people that would have very much would have wanted to be there. Due to so many other reasons…job..kids…finances…illness..whatever…many couldn’t attend that would have liked to. But what all of those people can do is VOTE in November.

      • alpha-lemming

        I agree… and those numbers may be conservative. Somebody should organize an “E-Party” to facilitate those who are prevented from attending a DC-type gathering. The numbers would astonish (or “Scare the bat-snot out of”…. Beck 3:16) anyone paying attention, and once-&-for-all prove the backlash (Honor Rally, town halls, Tea Parties etc.) is NOT a small percentage, fringe movement that can be cow-towed into submission by the likes of MSDNC.

        • Dingo23

          A good idea would be for Beck (or someone) to start a list for people who wanted to make it but couldn’t. I know my name would be on it. For health reasons, i won’t be going to any rallys, but I sure can vote!

    • http://Fox TeaParty

      While reading so many of the above columns, I see that some have that same empty inner feeling that I have experienced too. If I commit myself to including God in every part of my life…I am more at peace with myself. Try it…you will like it!!!!!!!

      • TIME

        DITTO..

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Time,
          welcome back, friend. Hope your trip was productive!

      • Karolyn

        You are right; and you don’t even have to be “Christian.”

  • Matt

    We need to get America Back to God!

    • http://dmcintyr@stv.org Dewayne

      Who and what God are you referring to? If it is the God that the
      Bible speaks of, This God have giving every man the right to choose,
      Right or Wrong, Good or Evil. One of God’s FUNDAMENTAL priciples
      CHOICE

      • Martaan

        There is only one God Dewayne.

        • Christin

          There is only ONE TRUE LIVING God,
          the rest are man-made gods.

          • JH

            One true living God?? Are you delusional? You and your kind crack me up. You live your whole life on a set of precepts that revolve around a mythological fabrication and you are ready to kill others who point that bit of reality out to you. Wake up!! Take a look at reality without your precious zombie. Life is really better with the blinders off.

          • Marie Mandel

            And how do you actually know this?

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Dewayne…
        Do you have a point? Any person who is a Christian, (and many who aren’t) are well aware that God did not make us as robots, but gave us the ability to decide the course of our life and afterlife. I fail to understand your post…

        • Karolyn

          Thanks, Robin. I believe as you do. God did create us as we are and does NOT condemn us for failing to live up to standards. why would he condemn us for being who he made us to be? He loves us as we are. Also, I believe that man has made God in his image rather than the opposite. God made us all spirits, as He himself is. And regarding the Bible, the Old Testament was translated from Hebrew to Greek and the New Testament from Hebrew to Greek to Latin. That is why there are so many fallacies in what people read and differences in translations.

          • Jana

            Karolyn,
            That is why a serious student of the Word studies from the Standard King James version as the New Testament has not been translated into Latin. Then we have our tools, which is the concordance that goes back to the Greek and Hebrew, and have also Bible Dictionaries. We do more than just read the Bible, we study the Bible. The oldest and best manuscripts actually contain the Massorah. The Massorah is called the Fence to the scriptures because it locks all words and letters in their places.(short version of the definition.
            There may be errors when in the translation they transliterated instead of going for the meaning of the word. Many of the newer versions of the Bible are transliterated instead of being translated.
            Actually Karolyn, the Bible does say that God said, “Let us make man in our image.” Genesis 1:26
            You are right, He loves us like we are but, He did send His Son who gave His life for us on the Cross so we can have Salvation.

            John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
            John 3:18 He that believeth on Him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

            I believe the Bible and what it says. The more I study, the more I know how badly I need Jesus as my advocate to my Father as I am far from being and doing the good that I should, but I do keep trying and I do keep studying.

            I am not telling you this to change your mind, I am just presenting truth to you.
            Smiles

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jana,
            My best friend in this world is an athiest. We have had many friendly talks between us. He knows he would never be able to shake my belief in God, but I have made him question his a couple of times. I think this is due mainly to the fact that no matter what he says My faith stays super strong.As my best friend, I hope one day I can bring him to believe again as he did when he was a child and save his soul so I can see him in the afterlife!!! That would be the greatest gift this life could give me. He is a good man and would give the shirt off his back to a complete stranger. It’s ironic, he was the first person I met when I moved here twenty years ago. God DOES work in strange ways!!!

          • Jana

            JoeH,
            You are so right. Karolyn is also right. There are many decent people out in this world that do not know the Lord. They may know somthing about Him, but they have no relationship with Him.
            The sad thing is, there is a saying that the way to Hell is paved with good intentions.
            Most of the people on this site that don’t know the Lord are nice people (garbage mouths are the exception) and they have the right to accept or reject the Lord, but we can still all get along with each other as we all breathe the same air.
            The thing is when we know something that is so wonderful, we want to share it, but we have to remember they still have the right to not accept. I do hope your friend will see the light and you will be able to witness it.

      • Lubo

        Choice being the KEY WORD. That’s what makes GOD….GOD….he gives all of us ,as individuals, a choice, by FREE WILL. In contrast, evil men MANDATE our choices in life throuh oppressive legislation, all in the name of “Collective Salvation”. i.e; OBAMACARE

        • Steve

          Amen…..

      • marvin

        that same god of the bible put man and woman in a safe place with no worries told them all in the garden is for them, but the fruit from one tree ,and told them you partake of it,s fruit and you will die and suffer,not so much differance from are modern politics,we elect them we tell them ,they go ,they forget us,but like the gift god gave us of free will we can choose to kick them out like god did adam and eve,adam tryed to blame god for disobeying,god ask adam did you eat that fruit i said not to eat, then adam said that woman ”YOU” gave me done it she gave it to me it your fault

        • marvin

          don,t this sound a lot like todays media and elected, bush done it it is not my fault

      • Tunaman

        There is only ONE GOD!! The GOD of Abraham, Isacc, and Joseph!!!

        • kate8

          Tunaman, That’s Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Of course, He is the God of Joseph, too, but we refer to the patriarch Abraham, his son Isaac, and Isaac’s son, Jacob.

  • Pat

    Glenn Beck’s rally was inspiring. Also, in DC another rally lead by a Reverend named Al Sharpton was hateful and vindictive. Until these so called reverends actually START acting like men of the cloth, we will remain a divided country. Beck is on the right track..It is time, Reverend Al,to board the train.

    • Lubo

      Sharpton is a byproduct of black liberation theology, a marxist based ideolgy. As with Rev Wright, spewing venom and hate from the pulpit should tell us all we need to know.

      Personally, I cannot even put Beck’s name in the same sentence as this fake and fraud who has made MILLIONS through exploiting the poor.

      Liberals hate Beck because the TRUTH hurts and they fear this restoring HONOR tour may USURP their liberal god. i.e.; money, power and greed…..Their golden Cow paid for by all others…even our unborn grandchildren.

      • M. Mullins

        Amen! Amen!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Lubo,
        Isn’t it funny that Beck had three hundred thousand, plus in attendance, yet Sharpton had only about five hundred???

        • Kinetic1

          Eventually someone was going to bring this up, so it might as well be me. 3 to 4 hundred thousand is the number GB is throwing around, but what is it based on. The only effort at an actual count was done by CBS. Now I know many of you will claim that their count of 87 thousand is biased, but one of the men responsible for the math also made the aerial estimates for the Presidential Inauguration. The number for Obama’s gathering, by his estimate was lower than some had anticipated, but the right accepted it and taunted the left with it. Now the shoe is on the other foot and the right wants to claim the number is far short of reality. You can’t have it both ways.

          So, was it 300,00 to 400,000 as Beck felt he saw from the ground, or 80,000 to 94,000 as seen from above? The only problem comes from expectations, other wise 87,000 could be considered a strong turnout.

          • Lubo

            Kinetic1…This is something that can be easily resolved. Not that I have the time but I have the tools to come up with an “Estimation”.

            I have tools to measure the total acreage of the site where the rally was held. Once that has been established, population density is the only remaining factor to resolve. That would be based upon photos of the rally broken down in sections and then establishing a MEDIAN value.

            In other words, there are 43,560 square feet in an acre of land. To keep this simple, let’s take one acre, packed with people. How many square feet does one HUMAN take up in a packed setting?

            Well, my footprint will fit in one square foot of land, however, my sholders will not, so lets say approximately 3 sf.

            x = 43,560 / 9.0 feet (3sf)
            x = 4,840 people per acre of land mass

            Using Beck’s estimations
            x = 300,000 people / 4,840 people per acre
            x = 61.98 acres of land mass required to hold the masses

            Now, I think Beck said the crowd extended for .8 miles. A mile is 5,280 feet long.

            A = 5,280feet X .80
            A = 4,224 feet LONG This would represent the depth of the crowd

            Not sure how wide but let’s assume about a 1/4 the length

            B = 4,224 * 0.25
            B = 1056 feet wide This would represent the width of the crowd

            What is the total land mass?

            x = (4224 * 1056)
            x = 4,460,544 square feet of land mass filled at site

            What is the total acreage?

            Total acreage = 4,460,544 / 43,560 (Sf in an acre)

            TA = 102.40 acres of land mass

            Then what would be the estimated crowd count?

            X = (102.4 acres * 4,840 people per acre)
            total estimated people = 495,616

            It appears Beck’s numbers may be a conservative estimate….about 1/2.

          • Kinetic1

            Sounds fair, but this is just the sort of formulation used by AirPhotosLive. CBS has provided the footage used to estimate the crowd and you can clearly see the area of the crowd as well the the varied density in different areas. Given that the density in some areas was very light compared to others, it would be very easy to over estimate using the land based formula.

            In the end it makes little difference what number is right, but it is amusing to see one person quoting 200,000 to 300,000 or more and another 500,000 or more. Shoot, Michele Bachman was placing it at over a million! I guess you couldn’t see the forrest for the trees.

          • Lubo

            Kinetic1….Maybe, maybe not.

            That is why I rely on MATH as the basis of my decision making, especially given the fact that the one’s who oppose Beck will be the low end of the range and the one’s that support Beck will be on the high end of the estimated range of values. I think Beck is honest and his estimations are not over stated, by any means of the imagination.

            Based upon the limited data I have, I would still think that my estimation would be a more accurate reflection, as compared to, CBS.

            You could put 87,000 people in the average college stadium. Doesn’t add up because one section of the rally would fill the average stadium.

            Regardless of the fact, Beck has MILLIONS of people who agree with his ideas of just why this country is in the MESS, that it is currently in. Restoring HONOR will go a long way towards making all of us, a better peoples.

    • Christin

      Glenn’s web page said that
      “BO’s Education Secretary Arne Duncan urged 4,000 employees to attend the rally of Rev. Al Sharpton. That’s pretty much unheard of in political circles, usually civil servants are supposed to avoid political rallies at all costs, but not this administration. Oh, we can only omagine what would be happening right now if Geroge W. Bush urged people to attend the Glenn Beck Rally!”

      So the way I see it, God did not bless Sharpton for his false statements of Beck and trying to “out do him” by having a black only rally to “be like” MLK which Sharpton IS NOT. He had marchers in the street because they were “urged” to go!

      God gives free will. Marxists do NOT.

      God bless Glenn Beck for having the courage to stand up for God and Country. And thank you to the 500,000 plus people that attended the Restoring Honor Rally and stood up as well. Wish I could have gone and supported the message, but I enjoyed the full video on Glenn’s newsletter via the web. You should watch it, but know by the end you will have tears.

      • Warrior

        Christin,

        Excellent point.

      • kate8

        Christin, If this government is so adamant about the “separation of church and state”, then how do they justify endorsing “religious” leaders like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson?

        Why is no one pointing out this outrageous double-standard?

        Wait. We are so used to double-standards on the left that we no longer notice them.

        • Angel Wannabe

          kate8, exactly! and how I love Nancy Pelosi, reinterating in a speech about “The Word”__She only worries about “The Word”_(Which I assume to Gods word) when it’s a convienient political tactic.

          • kate8

            Angel, I actually wondered about that. When someone questioned her about something in “The Word”, she gave an evasive answer, that this was a topic to be discussed in church. Obviously, she had no clue what the “Word” says.

            I’m wondering to what “word” she refers. Being that she pals around with worshippers of Lucifer, I think she may have been thinking of another “word”, knowing the crowd would be thinking Bible.

            Pelosi speaks with forked tongue. The left only talks about the Bible when it serves them, and then they distort its meaning. When anyone on the right quotes the Bible, they scream “separation of church and state!”.

            It’s all manipulation and deception. And they really believe that we are stupid.

          • Christin

            Angel Wannabe and kate8,
            Pelosi is a quite the hypocrite. She said her favorite word is “The Word” which is really two words and that was by design that she used that one. When another reporter questioned her on another day about the meaning of “The Word”, pelosi said, “we only do this with our heads bowed in church” which is a non-answer as she was trying to shut the journalist up, even though she first brought this up in public on TV in front of reporters.

            Actually, I believe Glenn Beck addressed this one day on his show.

            He said “Divine Providence” is walking humbly and praying to God and He is helping you along. But “Manifest Destiny” is saying: get out of my way, it is my way or the highway, because I’m on a mission from God. We’re doing it whether you like it or not. This is how they justify the horrible things they do… it is their mission from God.

            The Declaration of Independence states:
            “When a man tries to live in accordance with ‘Nature’s God and Nature’s Law’ and walks for the betterment of man, God helps. However, when man seeks power and riches by using ‘Nature’s God and Nature’s Law’ in conjuction with others seeking the same, God withdraws and Evil masquerades as good.”

            So it seems that the whole gov is “using God” to maquerade as good (wolf in sheep’s clothing) as their justification to do these things to “we the people” they are suppost to represent. Just listen to them when they attach “religion” to their statements… it is Manifest Destiny to the whole group of people.

            “Divine Providence” is about the individual and a Free you with God.
            This is the right way to live, not “Manifest Destiny” forcing others to do horrible things…(his example was the expansion of the West and killing the Native-American Indians.)

            And yes, kate8, I dislike the double-standard (it is really cheating by the left) nor do I like the discrimination of whites by blacks. (No one alive today had anything to do with indentured-servants or slaves of generations ago. Scars Glenn talked about that we must move passed.) Those men who have the title of Reverend are not Godly men and are discriminating against whites(holding grudges) to further an agenda. They have a “broken relationship” with whites and it is a sin.

  • Charles

    Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, the people he chose for his inheritance.Psalm 33:12 My thanks to those who made the trip to Washington so their voice could be heard! Maybe this could be the November that America gives a VOTE of confidence to our Founding Fathers and the Constitution.

    • Lubo

      let us HOPE!

  • Kev

    If we do not restore ourselves to a solid foundation then we could probably expect the same results we have recieved over the past few decades. If we can get our own house in order in respect to our faith then our politics will naturally follow. How could anyone cast a vote for the jokers, con-artist, hoaxsters, liers, and down right self interested politicians again if one was true to their faith and self. If we lead with what Beck mentions then all else will fall into place without pushing any political/religious movement. Move yourself and that will move us back to truth or our founding.

  • patrick

    Sharpton, Jackson, etc. etc. I am sick and tired of these brown colored men going around calling themselves Reverned? The only reason they say that is so they can write off all their travel, housing, food, hookers, alchol, football tickets, world travel junkets, etc etc. on their taxes and it’s another way they can promote their racism. You see it gives them an excuse to claim racism when things don’t go the way they want it to. They think society will look favorably on them when they have a title, reverned. This is a joke since my wife’s mother, caught her husband, having an affair with a church lady, God fearing volunteer.

  • mj

    The turning point for this nation was when we as a nation allowed prayer to be taken out of school. I was a small child in school then and we all wondered, why? One Harlot of Babylon was allowed to take what is righteous from this nation while everyone stood back and said nothing. Christ said, “Woe to those who stumble the little ones”. With that one act you said to GOD, we do not need you and his reply is OK. That is why we are where we are today. Why not put it to the test, repent, go back to GOD, all of us, as a nation and see if things don’t change, fast. It is the will of GOD.

    • Christin

      You know mj, how gov (past & present) has taken “God out of our schools” (and pretty much everything in our society)… well, wouldn’t it be grand if all (or most of) the Teachers, Parents, administrators and staff just started praying for the students, families and schools out-loud every day?

      Could you see the AFL-CIO and other intolerant, hate groups freaking out and trying to sue everyone in court (that is not the good part). The courts would be overwhemled with the number of cases and we would OVER LOAD THE SYSTEM!! Get it? We would be using “the Saul Alinski” method ON THEM!!!

      OVER WHELM THE SYSTEM… bet the courts would have to go back and allow for some religious FREEDOMS as stated in the Constitution of the United States of America.
      Why didn’t we think of this before. We know what is right and constitutional.
      What say you guys?

      • Angel Wannabe

        Christin, it’s given, if we want religion in our lives, and are tired of being persecuted because of it, we’ve got to stand up for it, just like Beck!

        • Kinetic1

          Why do so many of you insist that prayer must be TAUGHT in school? When prayer is lead by a teacher, all students, regardless of their faith will be required to pray as the teacher prays. But any child who learns their parent’s religion in their home and church brings their god with them wherever they go. Those children do not need a teacher to lead them in prayer because they have the strength to silently pray when they feel the need.

          • alpha-lemming

            A reasonable question. I may be missing one or two, but “mano et mano” prayer (talking to God personally) can be put into five categories: 1) Please 2) Thank you 3) Why 4) Oops 5) Gimme. For the purposes of this reply, we’ll stipulate “public” prayer is relegated to the first two. If you can accept that God is synonymous with something that’s “bigger than us”, ANYTHING that can instill just a little humility and let these kids know they (contrary to their own feelings) are NOT the most important thing in the universe (actions/requirements for the greater societal good) has GOT to be a good thing.

            If you can’t accept there’s something more important than “me”… that’s symptomatic of what’s wrong in the world (AND PLEASE don’t go off a tangent about “public welfare” which, more times than not, is enabling bad behavior vs. assistance to the TRUELY needy).

    • Robert Smith

      From mj: >>> It is the will of GOD.<<<

      (offensive comment removed)
      Rob

      • kate8

        Robert, I’d like to see you make such a comment about an Imam.

        They like children, too.

        • Robert Smith

          Hey kate8 check out: http://europenews.dk/en/node/29775

          Sexual abuse widespread among Muslims

          They ain’t any better than priests.

          And that doesn’t make what the priests did right, or what the church did covering it up right.

          Rob

          • http://gunner689 gunner689

            The difference is that the Catholic priests who did this horrible abomination knew what they did was evil. They will pay a very high price when they meet their maker. In the Muslim world pedophilia and bestiality are common and socially acceptable. HUGE difference in concepts.

          • libertytrain

            And gunner – as you know, a small percentage of pedophile priests exists, probably the same percentage of pedophiles that are hidden among boyscouts, teachers, and other professionals where children may be gathered and they can become easy prey. It’s not considered an acceptable practice in our society and is criminal, wherein the other society, it apparently is a given and a regular treat for the male. Lucky little Muslim boys and girls.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Robert,
        I can only say one thing to you. YOU ARE SICK!!! If you connect what evil sick mindes do to God, YOU ARE SICK!!!

        • Robert Smith

          Joe H. says: >>> YOU ARE SICK!!!<<<

          If pointing out the sins of Bush and the sins of the church is sick I'm very sick. I've been threatened by some who consider themselves christian so like in the case of some doctors I feel it might be considered a fatal sickness.

          Please remember that I'm a strong supporter of pro-choice in firearms too. If you stay away from me and don't threaten me or my family in any way it's a bunch less paperwork. And if one of your christian crazies should get through I'll say "Hi" to Dr. Tiller for you.

          Rob

          • http://?? Joe H.

            robert,
            I didn’t say pointing out mans failings was/is sick, I said connecting them or blaming them on God is sick! Make no mistake robert, threats do not scare me as I have been shot at more times than I care to point out and I am also VERY handy with a rifle and getting better with a 9MM as well!!!

  • Ted

    The apostle Paul said that God’s law is the perfect law of liberty. Beck is right. Turn to God’s law and and our constitution will work wonders. If everybody was part of a roving gang of murderers and thieves burning houses and automobiles then the constitution will not work.

    • Angel Wannabe

      TED,
      “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” JOHN ADAMS

      • Tom Hankes

        Angel,

        You have hit the nail squarely on the head. Turning from God is the root of all our problems.

        • Angel Wannabe

          TOM, FOR ME,
          HE’S THE ONE AND ONLY WAY!

          • kate8

            Okay, everyone. This concerns everyone, our children, and especially all Christians.

            It is vital that we see what’s going on in the underbellies of government, the CIA, FBI and NWO, and understand how they are manipulating facts, history, and using technologies to control our minds. It also tells how they are using things like Wiki- to change our perceptions, and how they are trying to wipe out all natural healing modalities, and how Big Pharma is involved in population reduction.

            I got this link this morning and, even though I was aware of these things, I’m still reeling from the read.

            http://www.fluscam.com/CIA_FBI_COINTELPRO.html

            Knowledge is power. TPTB are working overtime to keep us confused and fearful. We must see through this, and stand with God.

          • libertytrain

            Kate I tried your link but that reverse print is wicked on the eyes. Perhaps I’ll try again some other time.

          • Angel Wannabe

            kate8, I’ve printed it out just haven’t read it yet.

  • Angel Wannabe

    I’m not sure you can keep religion out of the original intent of the founders, sc. Politics and Prayer are old as civilization itself. “Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!”Look into history, for example The Holy War between Spain and England, between the Catholics and the Protestants. Phillip of Spain, was power hungry too!__ First of all whats wrong with prayer before a days worth of politics? Other than the atheists unwillingness, to let someone alone as they pray. Even if you don’t agree, what’s wrong with having some respect, standing there, and shutting up while a prayer is going on, if you don’t wish to participate, then leave.__There is NO RESPECT TODAY, NOTHING. Everyone HAS TO BE THE CENTER OF ATTENTION! There is nothing wrong, with a prayer of good will, concerning the Country and it’s people. George Washington was a God fearing man & periodically, dropped to his knees in Valley Forge, to ask for favor, divine intervention and wisdom, for he his men. Most of the soldiers had no clothing, no shoes, they were battle weary & worn, it was feared they’d lose the war.
    I commend Glenn Becks bravery and those stand with him, I know his life must have threatened, as he stated he wore a bullet proof vest during 8/28. Alveda King swore off her vest that was offered her, and she and Glenn prayed, prior to her taking the stage. As did her uncle and other relatives. That’s what lacking today, bravery, the willingness to stand up for ones beliefs. The political correct crowd has done well, changing the language. Tipping the hat in their favor. If you change the language, you can control it!Another form of brainwashing is politcal correctiveness, be aware of that!__I asked a question one time here on this site, where have all the hero’s gone? I’m finding more and more, the hero’s are not always on the battlefield, or the high sea’s or conquering a new world, some are simple people right here at home! Thanks Glenn Beck, for opening the door further!

  • Toni Buchanan

    It is funny that my 20 and 30-something year old children advised me to be careful when I went to this rally. I wish they had come to see it for themselves. I could not help but imagine heaven might be a little like what I experienced. Tons of people content to be with each other and being respectful of one another. There were families, single mothers with small children, veterans, blacks (mostly on stage),handicapped in wheelchairs, yellow, red, white and blue. No mingling of religion and politics? That is such “escape goat theory”. Why NOT do both? Christians need to practice the faith they preach. Boomergeddan is fast approaching and we spoiled our kids senseless. Maybe we did it out of love but now, we need to fix the debt before they hate us for not seeing it coming. It will not be fun. Hate-filled sarcasm maybe funny these days as long as you are not on the receiving end. I love my kids. I want them to remember our generation as having cared about their welfare. What was “preached” was the mandate of individual rights and American exceptionalism. Who would quarrel with freedom and living in a country that gives more than it receives???? Grow up. Restore America.

    • Jana

      Toni,
      I am so glad that you got to go. The reason your children said to be careful is the left put out a few threats. The Black Panthers were going to be there and have it out with Beck, etc.
      To me anyone in any type of gang who has to have a bunch of other people with them to do anything must be a bunch of cowards. Together they act like a pack of wild dogs and attack.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Jana,
        Beck told the gathering that if they attack you don’t fight back! Just join arms and peacefully resist. I don’t know if I could be strong enough to not return strike for strike!! I guess I’m not as much of a man as some!!! I would have to fight back!

        • Jana

          Joe H.,
          I know exactly what you mean. Someone hit my body? NO! I was thinking pepper spray, a stun gun, even wasp spray. I didn’t get to go anyway. Ok, I need to pray for myslef a little harder.

  • http://www.rbarone.remax-nj.net Rosanne

    As they say, “You had to be there.” I was and witnessed a perfect day, with a peaceful gathering of hundreds of thousands patriotic Americans who believe in faith, hope and charity towards all. It was truly a day of historical remembrance when one man humbly brought forth the best and honorable of those who have fought for our freedom and those who continue to do good works through everyday living. Glenn Beck as the instrument of God was called and answered, “Here I am, Lord.” Perhaps the flock of wild geese that flew from the Washington Monument across the reflecting pond, towards the Lincoln Memorial in a perfect “V” formation was God’s signage on the rally, with the message: God first, then family and country. May we go forth in continued Faith, Hope, and Love.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

    Well, based on the overwhelming majority of these posts, this country just might still have chance. Kinedude, why are you so afraid of the “Christian God”? He sent his son to die for you too.

    • Angel Wannabe

      Randy, I think Gods plan is too let Obama stand where his for now, sometimes we need to be reminded how good we’ve had it, by showing us how bad it can be!

      • Jana

        Angel,
        I agree with you.

    • Kinetic1

      Randy,
      I’m not afraid of a Christian God. This has nothing to do with fear and everything to do with freedom. If our government accepts and promotes it’s self as a Christian government, if we proclaim this to officially be a Christian nation of Christian laws, then we deny those who are not Christian to live as free Americans, unfettered by church dogma. We become no better than Saudi Arabia!

      Again, our founders purposefully left God out of the Constitution. Read the history told by the men who were there. The question was debated and many devote Christians argued in favor of mentioning Christ, but in the end it was agreed that doing so would deny non Christians of their freedom from religion. It didn’t end there. For as long as we have been a nation, Christian leaders have been trying to put their God into our government. “In God We Trust” was not on our original currency, but was added after the Civil War. “One Nation, Under God” was not added until the 50s. We grew tired of England’s religious intolerance and proclaimed that we would be free. Why do so many now want to turn our nation into that which we fought to become independent of?

      • Lubo

        Kinetic1….hard to argue with your comments. Our founding document was based upon Judeo-Christian values. Anyone who would suggest otherwise would be either stupid or in basic denial. Our original laws in general reflect the 10 commandments, given to us by our creator.

        Your point is, and that is the beauty of our founding, that our founders gave us a CHOICE, based on the principles of Christianity. In other words, GOD gave them a choice to believe and so did they give AMERICANS a choice of beliefs.

        Anything else would be a HUMAN attempt to usurp the POWER OF OUR CREATOR. As if men can MANADATE a belief but GOD cannot.

  • jopa

    At one time everybody in Jonestown was singing,dancing,denouncing our government and where did it get them.Use caution!!!

  • Jim

    Reading thru this I saw a statement from J. Overbrook about the Mormans.
    The mention of them fits in with the argument of seperation of church and state. Utah was not considered or given statehood until the Mormans agreed to the condition that there be only one wife per man. That was the law of this country. Will the government follow thru with this policy when it comes to Mulsims and 4 wives + mistresses?
    I would like to see the government either strike down every accomodation and bowing to organized religion or acknowledge Judo-Christian principles as the base for our form of government while saying that you are free to practice what you want but this is what the government was founded on and this is what the government will celebrate. It is the only way the policies that this goverment was founded on can continue to survive. Otherwise it has to strike down all religions.
    Christianity may be the ideal religion as far as most (most until the numbers change!) in this country are concerned but when you accommodate it you have to accommodate every other religion that comes down the pike – even the screwballs that practice Islam.
    I love Christmas. My family were not church people but they knew moral right from wrong. They knew kindness from ugliness. They celebrated Christmas as full out as any faithful Christian would do. I was young and knew Christmas not as the birth of Christ but as excitment in the air, bright lights, family coming together, good food, nice presents, people being more friendly towards one another and overall just a real nice time of year. I still look at it that way. I do not begrudge those that see it from a highly religious point. I do not dislike those that do not believe in it or practice it at all. I DO dislike the “antis telling me that I have to stop demonstrating my belief because it offends them. Live and let live as long as your living does not tramp on my rights if my rights do not advocate the destruction of others beliefs or the policies and laws of my country.
    So, it makes me sad and worries me that as praying, pledging allegiance to the flag have been removed from the school so will Christmas be removed from anywhere but in your own home.
    It is only a matter of time before some nut files a lawsuit to stop decorating any government building at Christmas time if it is being done with taxpayer money. Paid religiouis holidays from any government entity will stop because they are being paid with taxpayer money some of which comes from those that do not observe or acknowledge Christmas or some particular religious holiday.
    If we ever needed someone with the wisdom of Solomon, it is now!

    • Robert Smith

      Hey Jim… About Soloman!

      King Solomon loved, in addition to the daughter of Pharaoh, many foreign woman, Moabite, Ammonite, Edomite, Sidonian and Hittite women, from the nations concerning which the Lord had warned the Israelites. “You must not cohabit with them, nor they with you, for they will certainly turn your hearts to their gods”. Solomon held fast to them in love. He had 700 official wives and 300 concubines….

      The Holy Bible 1 Kings 11:1-3

      Rob

      • kate8

        Robert, multiple wives and concubines was the custom of the time.

        Even Queen Esther had to share her King with many women.

      • Jana

        Robert S.,
        Yes he did that and also built Temples for them to worship their false gods, which became prominent in the land.
        God in His Word has stated,” My name is Jealous”. He has also said “I am a jealous God”.

        This idol worship lead to the downfall of the Israelite people at that time too, because they turned away from worshipping The One True God, and he lifted His hand from them. They even went into captivity. It sounds like what is going on with us today, that is why it is so important for us to stand and make a difference.

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        What a guy !!!!!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Jim,
      If they pass that law, then we need to overcome it by donating the decorations and take up donations if need be!!! We shall Overcome!!!

  • Jan

    I’ve been listening to Glenn on the radio ever since his show was available in our area. I remember listening to his story of the crucifiction of Jesus on “Good Friday” and crying. Then he got his show on CNN…then FOX. So, I’ve been following him for a while. I can feel his heart, he is a good man. My life parallels his in so many ways…except for his successes of course, but along with those successes he has to make extreme sacrifices. He talks about how his wife saved him…I have said that many times about my husband…he saved me from myself. I’ve always felt that devine intervention was the reason for my husband coming into my life. I’m not an extremely religious person but I have prayed for help in the past and somehow my prayers are always answered. The more I listen to Glenn, and hear the message he is trying to convey…the more love and respect I have for him and what he is doing. It hurts me to hear him being so maligned by people. I believe he is trying to be the person he thinks GOD would want him to be….and that is all any of us can do in this life. We all have a cross to bear…and some are heavier than others…that’s just the way it is. I don’t believe Glenn has chosen this cross for himself, I believe he was called to it. There really are no “coincidences”. Glenn has renewed my faith and along with that my hope that our country will return to it’s special position in the world, without the corruption that has slowly shadowed it from the light of GOD. I have blisters all over my feet from walking all over Washington DC over the weekend but I wouldn’t have missed it for the world. If people would begin to emulate Glenn Beck instead of trying to assassinate his character and him personally….what a much better world it would be. The devil is always at work in the world…all you have to do to see him is to look at those who use violence and slander to try and take their opponents down. I will stand up for and along side Glenn Beck any day of the week, any time of the day. God Bless him and his family.

    • Anne

      Jan, what a lovely post, I totally agree, God Bless you and Glenn Beck

    • Jana

      Jan, so you know that this is not just a recent conversion to the Lord on Glenn Beck’s part.

  • Loretta E.

    I was very concerned about the safety of the rally with my son taking his 2 young children with him to attend it. I did feel the government would extend all caution to make sure danger was minimized as no one would want any violence that could be used against them politically.
    While the Tea Party may not be as strong as it should be, I only hope it will arouse our young people to who and what is controlling our lives so they will take more interest than we did in making sure the people they vote into office are people more interested in honor than riches.

    • Karolyn

      I don’t understand why I’m hearing so many people talking of having been fearful of being at the rally. Where does that come from. In my view, somebody like Al Sharpton would be more of a target for an extremist. I consider myself to be a left-winger, but the more I read on these posts, I guess I’m not. Maybe I’m an independent and just kept that left label from my hippie days. :-) I’m grateful for these posts – both bad and good. I feel that I am reworking myself. (To a point!)

      • kate8

        Karolyn, we all do well to bear in mind that life is an unfolding process. There is always more to learn and understand.

        Godspeed.

        • Karolyn

          Thanks Kate. I needed that. I have a job interview tomorrow! First one in a long time.

          • libertytrain

            Karolyn – Best of Luck to you tomorrow -

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Karolyn,
            even though you might not believe me, I’l say a little prayer for your success tomorrow!!! Libertytrain can tell you prayers do work!!

          • Karolyn

            Thanks Joe. I do know prayer works!

          • libertytrain

            Yes Joe, they do, she finally landed at Bragg about 6:44 am this morn.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            libertytrain,
            If I may be so forward, give her an extra hug from those of us here!!! Tell her Welcome Home!!!!

          • Claire

            libertytrain—Give her lots of hugs! And don’t forget the “Happy Dance.” God bless you and your wonderful family. Enjoy!!

          • libertytrain

            JoeH and Claire – while I did a happy polka when I knew the plane landed, I won’t get to see her myself for a while – perhaps in a few weeks or so but that’s all right these soldiers need time to resettle and savor their family time once again. When I do see her I will do that hug for you all and remind her again of your prayers.

          • Jana

            Libertytrain,
            A part of that hug comes from me too. Now she will have some healing to do also to get back to normal, but she will.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            LT,

            Sorry for the lateness of this post; I just read some of the prayer posts related to your daughter coming home and just want you to know…my prayers are also with your entire family! Your family is filled with patriots, and we are all better off for it. Thank you!

          • libertytrain

            Thanks to all, I think she’ll be just fine now that she has her kids, husband, dogs and life to enjoy again. Thank you very much for all the well wishes.

        • Jana

          Karolyn,
          It’s becasue the Black Panthers threatened Beck and said they would meet him there. They did it in a threatening manner.

          Good luck on that interview.

          • Karolyn

            Thanks Jana!

  • Julie

    Glenn has given Freedom loving Americans a voice, it just so happens that most of us are Christian but still respect that in this country you have a right to practice any non-violant religion you choose to. He gave Stay at home Moms, Hard working moms and Dads, small business owners that are busy working and taking care of their families who at the end of the day have been glad to have an hour or two just to catch our favorite comedy/show a wake up call. Glenn has done more for us than ANY politition. I truly believe God sent him to light a fire under America because we have been too busy to notice our Country is in real trouble. Actually, alot of us sawing it coming but didn’t know what to do…and as we prayed he answered that prayer by sending someone that gave us a voice. Well, we are awake and standing behind Him in the truth. 8/28 was a wonderful day!!!

  • john

    What is really frightening is the lack of coverage from any of the news medias other than Fox.It is quite clear that we have succumbed to socialist style govt…freedom of the press is a joke..the media has become like the old Soviet news agencies that toe the govt. propaganda and control machine…even if your a liberal,should’nt you be alarmed at the one sidedness of the media.The left are like ostriches with their heads in the sand..they think if it’s not reported it will go away.But guess what…not only will we not go away..we are growing in numbers.I went to my first March for Life last year..same thing..absolutely no media coverage and the buildings along the route all had their shades and blinds drawn…it was like marching through a ghost town..and yet it too grows larger every year.For the godless who think religion should be only practiced in our homes amongst yourselves..thats just the opposite of what we are called to do.Evil will try to silence us but we shall overcome.The more you try to take religion out of the public dominion…the more religion is going to grow in it..whether good or bad…God will not lose His voice within His own creation.Glen Beck is spot on and I thank God for people like him who will not let evil and corruption to spread unchecked and without opposition…the best form of fighting evil is on your knees in prayer.

    • Kinetic1

      John, the media, even FOX failed to cover many large antiwar rallies during the last administration. I don’t think these sorts of things fit well into their 30 minute slots. What with local feel good stories, weather and the day’s sports coverage I’m surprised we hear much of anything important.

      All the cable news shows talked about this event both before and after. As for during, I don’t know if they thought they would offer alternative viewing for those who were not interested, or if FOX would not allow other networks to cover the event, except from the edges. Of course there was no need since FOX was going to be there for full coverage.

  • Joan

    It has always been separation of Church and State in this great country. IT HAS NEVER BEEN SEPARATION OF GOD AND STATE. Man-made religions get in the way of good government. God’s oversight never does. It’s what is in our hearts that steers our lives and therefore our government, not the pew in which we sit on Sunday. When we understand that the principles that forged the government of the Founding Fathers are Godly principles, there should be no issue to debate. While the Founders themselves, like all humanity, had their flaws, they knew that the application of God’s laws held the secret of success for all facets of life. When religion is politicized, it is no longer a religion–it’s a perversion.

    Thank you Glenn Beck for reminding us that only through God will we have true liberty and freedom. As it is said. The Truth will make you Free.

    • kate8

      Joan, that is a very good point.

      Churches all vary in their doctrines. That is why the government may not endorse one over another.

      But the church is not God. Only God is God, and one does not need to be a member of a church to know Him. He is over and above all doctrines.

      We get into trouble when we make religion our God. Religion is nothing more than man’s feeble attempt to put God in a box, so he can try to make sense of the incomprehensible.

      It is God to whom we must turn. Not religion.

      • Karolyn

        I agree again, Kate!

      • Jana

        Kate8,
        I very much agree with that.

      • Kinetic1

        Very good Kate. What you have said sounds much like the Deist approach of Jefferson and others. Not all will accept that there is a God, but if those that will can agree that one church’s God is not better than another, that God is God, with or without dogma, then we will all do well together.

      • Lubo

        kate8….Once again you exude wisdom beyond most who comment on this blog. The “Church” is the “Bride of Christ” and it is a condition of the heart(Spirit) that requires no buildings or bounderies to define.

        The power of the HOLLY SPIRIT is manifest through those who are “Like Minded” with CRIST JESUS.

        “When two or more gather in my name, I will walk in the mist of them.”

        The WORD OF GOD is pure 100% spiritual and unless you WALK WITH GOD in the spirit, you cannot comprehend HIS message nor understand your individual purpose in life.

    • alpha-lemming

      God said…. “Here is the truth”.

      The Devil said…. “Let me catalogue that for ya”. And we got organized religion.

      • Jana

        alpha-
        That sounds about right.

  • Bob

    I concur with most everything written above…. and wanted to add that this discussion is as predicted in the bible about there coming a ‘cry’ for spirituality/God/leaders will be ‘called’ and many will well up to encourage people to develop a relationship with God and that there would be ‘an outcry’ from the people.

    Sadly, again as predicted, this country is “divided” due to Political correctness, fears of ‘offending other religions, etc. Also we are so engrossed with politics (political correctness) and our “Leaders” only really interested in getting re-elected.._) that GOD, FREEDOM, TRUTH, LIBERTY are just ‘words people use’ to “look good’ to others. Again, very sadly, God is so far removed from discussions, freedom, values, and HIS PURPOSES… that we can all come to believe “I’m Right”… and personally, there are major difficulties when WE thing we are Good, Right, etc. (thats the flesh, pride, ego, etc. Hence, Glen Becks rally is right on the mark about EACH OF US as people and individuals need to Pray, Fast, Be humble and Ask that Gods will be done.. and we each need to look to God, (not ourselves our best thinking or perceptions of what WE THINK IS GOD… but rather to the basics of developing a relationship with God regardless of OUT values, best thinking, etc. It really is all about ‘a relationship with God and Truth as opposed to what I THINK, etc. It is a slippery slop because it really is so hard to discern Gods Will… Its just so easy to “depend on OUR UNDERSTANDING rather then knowing and believing and acting according to biblical principals and values with a constant need to pray for HIS will rather then Ours.

    My bottom line is that God NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED whenever we (the people, politians, etc). attempt to discern what to do next or the best course of actions. It is just SOOOOOO easy to get into ME THINKING rather then “HIS WILL thinking and doing.

  • Jim

    If there is a god I don’t believe that he is concerned with the matters of the earth ot those that are on it.
    The Jews are called the “chosen people” if they are so protected by God why have they had to go thru Hell for so many centuries. Couldn’t he have gotten them across the desert and in to the promised land a little quicker than 40 years!?
    I don’t want the unprovable fallback that he is testing us or he works in mysterious ways as an answer. The same can be said for Lady Luck
    No, man is responsible for his will, fate and destiny and if the men and women of the U.S.of A don’t stand up for themselves and do what is right to keep the country that gives them the freedom to believe or not they will find themselves wondering the earth trying to find another place that once again gives them that opportunity!

    • Angel Wannabe

      God says,take up your cross and follow me__The story patience of JOB, in the Bible, to make a long story short, JOB lost everything, as a test to to see if he would hold unto to his faith in God. He lost family, wealth, and was about to sacrifice his only son on the alter, until God stopped him.___ If we decide, (and we are given a choice to follow either the light or the darkness), to follow God, we don’t run ahead, we follow him, with our own cross. Just because we are believers, doesn’t mean the hard times stop, but God does send the Holy Ghost to be with us as a help mate.Sometime as belivers we are more highly tested than others, is just the way it is.

      • hundabuxt

        Angel Wannabe

        It was Abramham who was about to sacrifice his son on the alter not Job.

        • Angel Wannabe

          hundabuxt, You are correct, thanx!

    • hundabuxt

      Jim

      The Jews have suffered because in spite of being God’s “chosen people”, which they still are by the way, God called them “stiff necked”, meaning stubborn and resistant to the provisions God provided as guidelines. Even though during their escape from Egypt, Jews witnessed several amazing miracles, they still were disobedient even to the point they convinced Arron to allow the construction of an inamimate golden calf to worship rather than God while Moses was on the mountain with God. The Jews appear to be very stubborn and disobedant and it sometimes seems that adversity is the only way to get their attention. Speaking metaphorically, its much like dealing with a disobedient child continuiously. To this day they (most of them) still reject Jesus as their (our) Messiah.
      Many people take Bibical concepts out of context or accept the opinions of others as the truth insofar as the Bible is concerned. I suggest you and others buy a Bible from someone like John MacArthur who has writted an excellent teaching version containing copious notes, which explain in great detail what the sometimes difficult verses mean. MacArthur has studied the Greek and Hebrew texts, which are far more detailed than that found in english language.

    • Walt

      Jim, maybe if you would read the Bible from beginning to end, you would be enlightened how He does care for His chosen people, and you would find out that all through the Bible he tells us that He cares for all of us and it was His chosen people that this task was issued, to inform the whole world of this. Thankfully he sent another, Paul, the biggest hater of the Jewish people of that time, to reveal the mystery of why Christ was sent, and that Christ died to save all who receive him by faith, which also is a gift, not of works lest any man should boast. He gave Himself for you Jim, and you also can receive that gift, if you want to accept it.

    • ValDM

      The jews are God’s chosen people. However, when they choe no to recognize the Messiah, they were turned over to the world. Christians are not the chosen people (being of the vine), but are grafted onto the vine.
      Folks, the current problems we’re experiencing are the beginning of the END. Soon, everyone will have to choose: Good or Evil. Pick your sides now and avoid the rush. It’s later than you think.

      • Karolyn

        We are ALL the Chosen!

        • Jana

          Yes Karolyn,
          We are all chosen, but some won’t respond, and that is not God’s fault, it is our own fault becasue we refuse to believe the Truth.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jana,
            that is what I was trying to get through to robert. The failings of Man have nothing to do with the will of God!!!

    • kate8

      Jim, the error in that thinking is that God is separate from his creation.

      In the beginning there was only God….which means that His creation proceeded from Him, and is part of Him.

      He knows the number of hairs on our heads. Not a sparrow falls that He doesn’t see. We each contain His Spark. It is only we who choose to deny Him.

      He says, “Return to Me and I will return to you”. He is closer than breathing. He is as personal as He is universal.

    • Granny Mae

      Jim,
      As so many people on here have tried to explain to others that doubt there is a God let me try to explain. There is a God and he created man and woman. When he made us he gave us free will to choose to do and make our own decissions, and because of that he does not control our lives. He has given us rules to live by as a guide, and when we follow those rules we pretty much live a good life. Unfortunately everyone has that same free will and free choice and when they make the wrong choices they effect us as well as themselves. That is why there are bad things that happen to good people ! God is interrested in what goes on with us on this earth but he will not interfere as that would change things in our lives and cause us to expect God to take over and do everything for us even though we would never learn to suffer the consequences of our own actions. There are times though when we pray for his divine interception that he will do something in our life that will cause a different result than what could have been expected. We call this action a miricle. I have recieved one of these miricles myself although I didn’t pray for it, several others did, and I am so very grateful ! Sometimes there are things that happen that are not our fault but somewhere along the road something has happened that caused an action that effects our life perfoundly ! As humans we don’t have all the answers but one day we will know the answers. We must accept God unseen and trust in him that he is what he says he is and he can do what he says he can do. Our purpose is to love God and to love him of our own free will. As for the Jews, being the chosen people that is what God told us and them however it is not just words that make this so. It is a covanent between God and the Jewish people. A covanent is a sacred word or promise that God makes with someone that is an agreement between Him and them, and he will never change that promise or break his word, however when the Jews did not keep their end of the deal they were punished until they come to understand the importance of keeping their promises too. They had to learn that a covanent can not be broken after all they were given something that no other people on earth was given and they didn’t appreciate it. So it has been a difficult journey for them. All of this took place in the Old Testament. With the coming of Jesus there has been some new changes that effect us. As Christians we have been grafted in to the promises of God. Because we accept Jesus as the Son of God. God gave you life for you to live it He will not live it for you ! You can experience Him for yourself all you have to do is ask him into your heart and ask him to forgive all your sins. Tlak to him as though he were sitting in the chair next to you and then wait for his answer back to you. It may take some time or it may be right away but you will recieve an answer. Sometimes it takes weeks or months. But keep reading the bible and wait and see what happens.

  • Tunaman

    Man is fallin by nature! That is why GOD gave Moses the TEN CAMANDMENTS! If you fail as all mankind does, you ask JESUS CHRIST ( GOD )to forgive you and change your life and not keep repeating your transgressions! OH by the way JESUS CHRIST died on a cross for all mankind! JESUS also states in the BIBLE that no one goes to the FATHER except through HIM! Break open your BIBLES and find out what the plan is!!!

    • Karolyn

      I just cannot wrap my head around a God that would send everyone who doesn’t believe in the Bible to “hell.” I especially cannot wrap my head around the fact that so many people believe that.

      • kate8

        Karolyn, I do not believe God wants anyone in hell.

        “The wages of sin is death”. This means that everytime we defy God’s laws (think wrong thoughts, do or say harmful things, put harmful things in our bodies, etc) we create energy blockages in our systems, and we suffer. The more contrary to God’s laws we are, the more we suffer.

        We experience hell as a consequence of our own defiance. We have the choice to turn from evil at any point in our lives. It is the law of Kharma, no matter what you call it, and no one escapes it.

        • Karolyn

          Thanks for that Kate. I agree. However, there are those who do not, more’s the pity.

      • Robert Smith

        From Karolyn >>>I just cannot wrap my head around a God that would send everyone who doesn’t believe in the Bible to “hell.” <<<

        But he loves them all… (George Carlen)

        Rob

        • Granny Mae

          Robert Smith,

          The mistake you are making is that you think God sent them to hell. He did not, they sent themselves. They had free choice just as we do and they chose to do wrong even though they knew the price they would have to pay ! We also know the price we will have to pay if we choose to take the wrong path ! However all those that lived before the birth of Christ were offered salvation too when Christ was crusified and died. Jesus went into the gates of hell and they did not prevail against him. He went there to set the captives free if they wanted to be free ! What do you think their choice was? I think they jumped at the chance ! God loved us all and provided for us all but there is a cost to everything. Our cost is that we believe and accept Jesus as our savior sent by God the father.

          • Robert Smith

            From Granny Mae: >>> Our cost is that we believe and accept Jesus as our savior sent by God the father.<<<

            I don't deal in that coinage. In fact much of the world doesn't.

            Rob

          • Jana

            Robert,
            That is your right not to ‘deal in that coinage’. But God does.

          • Fed Up Gal in NM

            Robert,

            Your loss.

  • BigIron

    There can be no “unalienable Rights” unless there is a “higher power” than man; man cannot bestow Rights upon himself. Our Rights come from our Creator or God. These Rights are acknowledged in “Anglo-Saxon common law” or “natural law” but not “English common law”. Thus, for someone who believes that nothing exists above man there are no unalienable rights only the whim of man.

    It does not require that one be of a particular religion or sect to acknowledge these Rights but it does require that one acknowledge that there is a higher power than man, a Creator, God, a Supreme being or by whatever name known. Rights are unalienable because man cannot take away what God has given, only God can. Man may prevent the exercise of certain rights but cannot take those rights away.

    The atheist, on the other hand, has no place in our government because he sees man at the top of the hierarchy and man cannot bestow unalienable Rights thus he has no duty to acknowledge or protect what we know are our Rights. If the atheist acts to protect our Rights is whim not duty and neither their oath nor their word has value. Can anyone who would deny us of our God given Rights claim to believe in our Creator or God? I don’t think so.

    Is OBAMA a Christian? He may claim to be a Christian but it is only a lie; it can only be a lie because his actions and behavior speak otherwise. Is he a Muslim? I rather doubt it. If I had to hazard a guess, due to his actions, it would be that he is an atheist. Or if he believes in a God he must think that it is he.

    • Robert Smith

      From BigIron: >>>There can be no “unalienable Rights” unless there is a “higher power” than man; man cannot bestow Rights upon himself.<<<

      Let's see… Have you ever heard of "We the people…"

      Here's a bigger clue: "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

      Rob

  • Mike Watson

    Since Glen Beck’s Mormon faith has been injected into this forum, I thought that those who are intelligent seekers of truth would like to know what Glen and all Mormons believe on the subjects at hand.
    We believe that this is one nation under God. Here is a quote from the Book of Mormon.
    “Behold, this is a choice land, and whatsoever nation shall possess it shall be free from bondage, and from captivity, and from all other nations under heaven, “IF” they will but seve the GOD of the land, who is JESUS CHRIST, who hath been manifested by the things which we have written.”
    This was written by an ancient American prophet Moroni around 400 AD as part of a warning to the people of this nation. I suggest reading the whole warning as found in Ether ch. 2 vs. 7-12 Book of Mormon.
    Here is another quote that should interrest all true Americans.
    “And that law of the land which is CONSTITUTIONAL, Supporting the principle of freedom in maintaning rights and privileges, belongs to all mankind, and is justifiable before me. Therefore, I, the LORD, justify you, and your brethren of my church, in befriending that law which is the CONSTITUTIONAL law of the land; and, as pertaining to law of man, whatsoever is more or less than this cometh of evil. I the Lord God, make you free, therefore ye are free indeed; and the law (constitutional) also maketh you free. Nevertheless, when the wicked rule the people morn. Wherefore, honest men and wise men should be sought for diligently, and good men and wise men ye should observe to uphold; otherwise whatsoever is less than these cometh of evil. (Doctrine and Covenants Section 98 vs 5-10)
    That is what Glen Beck and all Mormons who know the truth believe.

    • Denise

      Mike, Thank you for that post. I to am a Mormon and I am so glad you clarified all that. Now as some people say about me being in a Mormon cult, tis time for lunch and to drink the kool-aid while reading my scriptures,as I did not have my family home evening scripture reading.

      • Jana

        Denise,
        One of my very close relatives married into a Mormon family. He had left the Mormon Church before they met, but you never leave your family. We associate with them all, and love and appreciate every one of them, and we all get along great. These people are some of the nicest most decent people around. I am honored and proud to call them friends. We have no qualms about praying together either.

  • ONTIME

    Long live Beck and his drive to make America a place where moral turpitude is a sign of adult responsibility and the means by which when a man gives his word it is worth it’s weight. The mealy mouthed weasels that we depend on now have made words such as integrity, personal responsibility and morality words to avoid and such avoidance has resulted in a poorer class of resopnsibl men and women who cannot seem to achieve the American dream.

  • http://Hotmail.com angelgram

    Having seen most of Glen Beck`s speech on TV and I watch his show on TV. I was very impressed with his speech and with the crowd, they were very orderly. Faith,hope and love was certainly within the crowd.
    Glenn Beck is trying to bring our country and its citizens together and I do believe it will happen if everyone does their part.

    Beck was a brave man to bring ALL of this together and wuth Faith, hope and love, who can go wrong with GOD on our side!!!

    angelgram

  • barbm

    i don’t watch, read, or listen to anything about glenn beck. he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing who sabotaged the tea party choice for texas governor, debra medina. she gained from 4% to 17% before he stabbed her in the back during an interview. she was closing in on hutch and perry fast, and perry is a friend of his. that was the last time i ever had anything to do with the bastard.

    • Bob

      You are right Barb As soon as the Republicans take over Congress in November Beck will be laughing his butt off at the sheeple he corraled for the Republicans. He’s no Christian. They don’t deceive people.

      • Robert Smith

        From Bob: >>>You are right Barb As soon as the Republicans take over Congress in November Beck will be laughing his butt off at the sheeple<<<

        No matter how benevolant and kind the sheppard is the sheep still get sheered or slaughtered, and some of them get screwed.

        Rob

    • kate8

      barb, Glenn has done some things I found offensive. I was upset about how he marginalized Debra Medina. She was a good woman.

      He has ridiculed things that I think are worthy of further investigation. To this end, I feel he has betrayed us, whether intentionally or not.

      But I don’t think he is all bad. Time will tell, but rallying people to return to God is a worthy endeavor, and I respect him for that.

      • Claire

        kate8–But why the switcheroo? It seems he goes from one extreme to the other, this is why I am wary of him.

        • Jana

          Claire,
          I really am sorry to see you so down on Beck. He is a man, not a perfect man, just a man doing what he thinks is right. When he teaches us history, or tells us about different people, I write names and look it up for myself. To me this is what he is encouraging us to do. He is encouraging us to turn to our God and pray and have Hope and Charity.
          I do believe he has been called of God for this particular time.

        • kate8

          Claire, he admits that when he started out with this thing, he had no idea how deep the evil ran. God’s calling often comes as a bolt out of the blue. People wake up. We go along, then one day, it comes to us. It all makes sense. We start to get it.

          Is it so hard to understand how he, as any of us, could have had an epiphany? He has done a great deal of research, and God has given him answers to his questions.

          I experience this myself. I ask God to show me something, and in His time He reveals it to me. Often it is a flash of understanding. I have made some real shifts in my perceptions many times, and continue to do so as I strive to learn.

          The Bible says we will know who is real and who is not “by their fruits”. Right now, I’d say he is bearing some good fruit.

        • Claire

          Jana & kate8–Let me put it this way–if either one of you had organized this rally instead of Beck, I would support the both of you with my heart and soul. I would be one of your avid supporters. The difference is that I would trust the two of you–somehow I cannot bring myself to trust Beck. Too much has been said, too much hatred. I do not trust any talk show host. At this moment in time he is saying all the correct things, and at a moment when people do need their faith to pull them through this chaos we are in. I just happen to think he is doing this for political reasons.

          • kate8

            Claire, I have listened to Glenn Beck for many years off and on (until I could no longer get him on radio), and I have NEVER heard anything from him that I would class as “hate”.

            Anyone who disagrees with the left is always accused of “hate speech”, when it is nothing but exposing the misconduct of someone the left would rather protect. Or disagreeing with a pet agenda of the left.

            So, on this count, I wholly disagree with you. If you can tell me something he said that was actually “hate”, I’d like to hear it.

          • Claire

            kate8–I didn’t expect you to agree with me. You just spoke of one of the hateful stunts he pulled concerning Debra Medina. He is capable of doing this again to someone else. Nothing will make me believe otherwise. I quit watching him some time back. I just don’t think he is sincere. Let me ask you this–what party does he belong to? Is he a true Conservative? While I think the rally was a good gesture, I hope he continues with it. Time will tell. I do believe in God but I will not become one of Beck’s followers so I guess I am a person without honor? Then so be it.

          • kate8

            Claire, good point about Medina.

            I certainly do not consider myself a “Beck follower”. I follow no one except the Lord. But if he can light a spark of freedom in the hearts of many people, then more power to him.

            None of us should pin our hopes on Beck or anyone else. The buck always stops at ourselves.

          • Claire

            kate8–Yes, the buck stops with us. You are a person of your word, you have your beliefs and I have to say I agree with many of them. I know you are not a follower of anyone but the Lord. Same with me. We have to believe in ourselves and do what we believe is the right thing to do. The very salvation of America depends on you, me, and all Americans. I do not say much about my religion and my beliefs but I pray every day that things will become better with each passing day. I pray that the Lord’s face will shine upon us and give us peace. I pray that there will be an end to this turmoil, that goodness, mercy, and honesty will prevail, and it will. “Seek and ye shall find” comes to mind. And in contrast, “if it offends thee, pluck it out.” We Americans have a lot of work to do, to make “right” (no pun intended) everything that has gone awry in this world. The choice is ours, and I sincerely hope we make the best choice we can when voting, living our daily lives, and being kind to one another even though we do not agree. This open discussion has done me a world of good, I am no longer blindsided. I no longer believe a certain party is the way to go. I try to look at all issues and the manner in which they are dealt with. I am terribly disappointed in both parties and I am struggling to find a true Conservative/Independent to vote for. Sorry, I am spilling my guts now and I don’t want to bore you.

          • kate8

            Claire, you do not bore me at all. You bless me as you speak from your heart, and your words are received in like manner.

            You are so right. We have a lot of work to do. Our nation is in great peril, more than we even know. I just heard on the radio how, in France, Muslims are shutting down the streets on Fridays during their prayer time, coming from all around as a show of power. This is illegal in France, yet the police are told to stand down. This makes me think of New York, where this is also happening.

            There are cultures who hate us and are bent on our conquest, yet we continue to appease them in the name of political correctness. Thousands of guns and grenades are confiscated coming through our southern border, which leaves one to wonder how many are not intercepted. The NWO is promoting this in order to create chaos. They are planning for rampant war and lawlessness and, so far, they are succeeding. Then they can step in and bring “order”.

            Our own government has turned on us. We have only one chance to save ourselves, and that is to return to God, and to love and honor one another. We MUST work together in united purpose, or we are lost.

            God bless you, Claire. I know that you are one who mourns for where our country has gone. You have good, common sense, and I respect that. We must regain the vision of our American Republic once again, and hold to that.

            We must align with God and not dispair. Those who are in oppostion to God will destroy themselves. If we can come together, in the way Americans always have (like no other), we will prevail.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Claire,
            you ask what party he follows? believe it or not, he is a libertarian!!

          • Claire

            kate8–Bless you for your comments. I have to get ready for work–talk to you later.

    • Claire

      barbm–I won’t call him a bastard but I agree with you.

  • Kodiak Bill

    I have to agree with Bob, that I agree with almost all that has been said by those replying. I believe that Glen has done more to expose Obama’s motives, the people who had the most influence to him were either communist, marxist, socialist radicals or islamic in faith, than any other commentator or news organization, other than a few web sources like this one, or wnd.com.
    I agree that most Amercans have not studied the history of founding of our country, and the left/communist influence has permeated our schools, media, and our churches, and of course our unions, ncluding the ‘Teachers union’.
    His message was right on course.

    • http://PersonalLiberty Ellen Skidmore

      SEEMS TO BE SEVERAL COMPLAINTS ABOUT GLENN BECK AND HIS CALL TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO COME BACK TO GOD. WHAT’S WRONG WITH THAT? THE REASON OUR COUNTRY IS IN THE MESS IT IS IN IS BECAUSE, IN LARGE, THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION HAVE PULLED AWAY FROM GOD AND THE MESSAGE OF OUR FOUNDING FATHERS. YOU PEOPLE THAT ARE COMPLAINING,WHY DON’T YOU GET OUT THERE AND GET A CROWD AND MARCH ON WASHINGTON? THINK YOU CAN DO THAT? THINK YOU KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS, AND THE CONSTITUTION TO HOLD ANYONE’S INTEREST? AND ANOTHER THING, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT THINK GOD AND GOVERNMENT DON’T GO TOGETHER, YOU ARE LACKING IN EDUCATION THERE ALSO. WHO DO YOU THINK WROTE THE FIRST LAWS? GOD -TEN COMMANDMENTS. THEN, GET INTO THE BOOK OF DEUTORONOMY AND YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF LAWS THAT GOD SET UP TO GOVERN THE PEOPLE. IT REALLY IS VERY SIMPLE. AMERICA, GET ON YOUR KNEES AND PRAY AND COME BACK TO GOD. GOD BLESS YOU AND GOD BLESS AMERICA.

  • Raggs

    The world of politics nad personel power instead of the world by and for the people that is obamas agenda.
    I say that because it is the truth, look around folks it is all around you…. Nobody in congress gives a rat’s ass what you think and they certainly don’t care how far you will go to make a point.

    Someone sent me a video clip today…
    It was of a very young muslim girl being kicked in the head and stomach as she was laying on the ground, one of the bystanders picked up a stone and threw it onto her head and another one picked up a block of concrete and smashed her head open…

    This was done because the little girl did not want to marry an old man.

    It puts me in mind of obama and his followers that have a hate for the true blooded Americans in this country that do not want his idealogy…. At this time obama is not throwing stones ( real ones ). He is however throwing stones as a defence to him and his menions.

    This “man” really sickens me, I find him in contempt of even being a human.

  • Kodiak Bill

    I would also like to say that I’m not a ‘Christian’ although I do believe in the Heavenly Father & His Son & their word, the Scriptures. I was raised a Baptist, married a lovely Catholic girl (still after 49 yrs), but after trying to become Catholic, searching all the history of the Christian Church, realized that Christianity had accepted many pagan ‘traditions’ much as had Judaism, which the Messiah Yahushua (Jesus) critized the Pharisees for. One of the main ones that the Jewish leaders had accepted, was that it was ‘Blasphemy’ to even pronounce the Name of the Creator, in fact it was what they pronounced a death sentence upon Yahushua for pronouncing it in front of the High Priest at their bogus trial. Anyway the Name of our Creator is Yahuah/ Yahweh, & His Son Came In, & Was Given His Name. Yahushua means, Yahuah Savior. God was the name of a Pagen Deity of fortune of the Assyrians. Lord comes from either Baal or Adonai, & both Lord & God are simply titles NOT HIS NAME. It would behove all Christians to really study this out, as His Name is vitially important to know, whom you worship. Lew White’s web site, http://www.fossilizedcustoms.com has a lot of info on this, and has references to a lot of other sites.
    I’m not against Christianity, it has far more truths in it than any other major religion, & I commend Glen for gettig all the leaders of the various to truly seek out your creator, & follow His Word!

  • Kodiak Bill

    Raggs The people stoning the girl were ‘Fundamentalist Muslims’. I was raised a Baptist in Fla where the Baptist were known as ‘Fundamentalist’. Let me say the difference between a ‘Fundamentalst Moslem’ & a ‘Fundamentalist Baptist’ is that a Fundamentalist Baptist is liable to ‘Talk you head off’ , while a ‘Fundamentalist Moslem’ is liable to ‘Cut Your Head Off’!
    Now, I’m not saying all Moslems are mean, evil people. There are millions on Islamic people who I’m sure are good, loving people. My brother married an Moslem woman, who is one of the most loving people I know. However, I would venture to say that she doesn’t really know everything about her religion, especially the fundamentals of what make up the Islamic religion, just as most Christians do not know the fundamentals of what makes up their religion. Most haven’t read the ‘Bible’ (Scritures} thru & thru, or even bother to read it at all. Just as probably the great majority of Muslims haven’t read the Koran or the other books on the history of Mohammad, which shows that the religion is not a religion of peace, but of war (jihad) and that Mohammad was really a terrorit, not a lovng person, and that Allah was the Moon God!

    • Karolyn

      There is much truth in what you’ve posted. There are so many sects and divisions in the Muslim faith that you can’t generalize about them all the way some do. They absolutely do not all believe in unison. There are also different interpretations of the writings in the Koran. I’m sure they’re not all religious and like so many Christians also just get by with what they have to do to be Muslims in good standing.

      • Raggs

        Apparently you are also on the idiot cloud…

        Another useless P.O.S with an opinion of how everyone else is supposed to be based on your conceiption of your screwed up world.

        WTF is wrong with you ?

        • Karolyn

          Nothing. I just happen to have an open, curious mind and like to use the brains God gave me.

          • kate8

            Karolyn, It is good to have an open mind, and to look at all sides before forming a conclusion. I have been around the philosophical block many times, and my only conclusion is that there are some Truths that are basic and stand the test of time. The rest fall into the category of beliefs.

            Beliefs often prevent our ability to receive new revelation.

            While keeping our minds open, we must always be sure to exercise discernment, so we don’t fall prey to deception.

            All that is required is an honest, and earnest, desire for Truth. This makes us fellow travelers, regardless of where we are on the road.

          • Claire

            kate8–A gracious comment.

  • Kodiak Bill

    Boy, I see I should have used a spell check. I’m just a dumb farmer, not a scholar, so you have to figure that inQ

    • Raggs

      Screw spell check your an idiot!

  • Raggs

    I will reply to all of the latest post. on “religion”..

    It is your mind your body and your soul.

    The quaran makes that decision for you in the way of if you are against it you die physically and to their belief souly …. The bible say’s the same thing but not in a manner that does condones murder…. Now you tell me which one you would prefer?

    So basically what you are saying is this…

    It is ok to murder a poor little girl that refuses to have sex with an old man…. And then blame christians for their lack of understanding…

    If so I truly hope I catch you doing that in front of me.
    That little girl would live and you…. well you would not!

    • kate8

      Raggs, These barbarians kill a little girl, and we are accused of intolerance.

      As I said before, Satan is busy.

      I can’t imagine throwing my little girl to the wolves, with no one to protect her. If these people are not barbarians, I don’t know who is.

  • Bev

    I like what BigIron had to say. Our schools today are hotbeds of secular humanism, unfortunately. They do not acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being, thus the promotion of the Big Bang theory and the condemnation of Intelligent Design and Creationism.
    The Ten Commandments are thought of as suggestions and everything seems to be shades of gray instead of black & white. We need to repent and turn to God for help and direction in life and to His Son Jesus for our salvation. Most, if not all, of our Founding Fathers
    believed in God, and many were devout Christians. Ben Franklin was no
    atheist as one can see in the epitaph he wrote for himself:
    “The Body of B. Franklin Printer; Like the Cover of an old Book, Its Contents torn out, And stript of its Lettering and Gilding, Lies here, Food for Worms. But the Work shall not be wholly lost: For it will, as he believ’d, appear once more, In a new & more perfect Edition, Corrected and Amended By the Author.”
    As you can see, he believed in redemption and in the resurrection of our bodies at the Last Day, for Jesus is the Author and Finisher of our faith. “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord”. (and here the word “Lord” means the one who is in charge, who dominates, to whom we submit our lives and our wills)

  • Raggs

    How many of you stupid bastards want a free ticket to Persia?…

    One way ticket of course, and proof of your beheading once you get there….

    If you are not a taker I would suggest you shut up and live in the greatest country in the world…. ( former )..

    Or you can continue to complain about America and how much you disagree with our “free” lifestyle that you are so dependant upon.

    Get the hell out of MY country!

  • TAKE BACK AMERICA

    Raggs, it is clear that you got the jest of Becks rally. The “Restoring Honor” premise SHINES in your first line. The second only confirms YOUR commitment to the cause. (former) shows your unfading love of America and the forth line, well, you seem to be the complainer so it really makes no sense. I don’t live in YOUR country, I live in America.

  • Sharon

    I am all for America turning to GOD and repent for allowing evil to run wild. My question is: “Can a democrat be a Christian?” Just like Harry Reid stated, How can a Latino be a Republican. Toushae.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      Sharon, congratulations you also payed zero attention to what Glen Beck was promoting.

    • THINK ABOUT

      You better believe many of the democrats are christians, in fact we follow the teachings of Jesus, he fed the hungry, loved his neighbors and loved people of all colors. Might just describe a Liberal. Maybe when the rest gets back to God then they just might follow the teachings of Jesus. And besides, the Democrats will welcome you.

      • kate8

        THINK – I wouldn’t hold my breath.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        THINK(?)ABOUT,
        You mean Jesus wanted us to steal from our fellow man?? He wanted us to lie? He wanted us to remove all mention of his Name from our daily lives? He wanted us to abort unborn children? He wanted us to let child molesters go so they could molest again? murderers let go to murder again? He would have wanted us to tax our people more than they can really afford so that the politicians can fly around like princes, drunk as skunks?? Man oh man, your idea of what Jesus would want of us is sure different than MINE!!!!

        • THINK ABOUT

          Perhaps what he was teaching was to give to your fellow man, don’t think I said anything about stealing, you must have been confused. He did not steal from others to feed the hungry nor did he steal from others to love others.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            THINK ABOUT,
            no but the democrat, liberal progressives have done all that I have mentioned!!

      • Granny Mae

        Think About it,

        I know a lot of Democrates and they profess to be Christian and even go to church every Sunday, the problem comes in when they start backing non Christian legislation. They put their stamp of approval on this kind of legislation and it is not scriptural. When that happens that is when they are telling God that he made a mistake and he doesn’t know what he is doing or talking about ! There is a big difference in believing in God and following God ! Even Satan believes in God ! All the democrates that I know of are believers in God but they are not followers of God ! Big difference !

    • Granny Mae

      Christians have a firm set of rules to follow and there is no choice but to follow them. It is what makes them followers of Christ, however a Latino is a nationality and is free to think what ever way they choose, republican or democrate or what ever ! Just goes to show you how very bright Harry Reid is ! Most Latino’s are very Christian and if they apply that christian belief to their voting there is only one way they can vote ! They must vote for the person that backs strong christian beliefs and principals !

      • Robert Smith

        Granny Mae says about Latinos: >>>They must vote for the person that backs strong christian beliefs and principals !<<<

        Actually, they have been betrayed by the right that apparently wants to hunt them down. If it's a choice between your god and having their spouse or a parent deported I think they will vote FAMILY VALUES and keep them together.

        Rob

  • Sylvia

    People will always have a differing view of this gathering, but the fact remains that Glen Beck enlisted more people to this event than has been seen at the site in many years. All peaceful, men, women and some with their children. They are standing up and being counted as American’s that want to see this country get back to it’s roots and to stand for what our founding fathers fought and died for. Political in a sense, but only to the point that we must live as our forefathers did with great faith, love of country and HONOR… If anyone can find something wrong with that, then they just aren’t willing to admit that America didn’t just happen. It was created by God through men of faith, that pledge their lives and their sacred honor to fight for and obtain freedom for all who were then and those to come as Americans….

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

    Dean, Joe said that cause that’s what demorats do! Anyway,who the heck would want more than one wife, keeping one happy is a full time job.

  • rose tripp

    Glenn Beck is an inspiration for many. He is truly being used by God at this critical time in our history. We do need to return to God for our country to survive. We need our leaders to be spirit filled so that they can lead us in the right path. Praise the Lord for people like Beck who are not afraid to stand up for what they believe and for our nation.

    • Granny Mae

      Amen !

  • Betty

    So Glenn Beck has suddenly found God and Honor?
    He asks Sarah Palin to join him in finding honor. I can’t think of two people who are in more need of finding honor. Both are without honor.

    • Lubo

      and what would be your definition of honor?

    • Granny Mae

      Betty,

      Well sweetie, if you are without sin you just go ahead and cast that first stone ! hipocrate !

    • kate8

      Betty, only those who have honor in them can recognize it in another.

      Those who are without honor also can’t see it anywhere else.

      • Christin

        Here, Here!

  • TAKE BACK AMERICA

    Beck is simply nuts. He’s completely off his rocker and certifiably insane. BUT……I have nothing but admiration for the rally he put together.

    • Granny Mae

      By what athourity do you make YOUR diagnosis ?

      • TAKE BACK AMERICA

        After the rally I made it a point to watch MANY of Becks videos. He is a seriously twisted man that has more than given Rush a run for his money. I think that like Rush, Beck’s listeners tend to block out the “off the deep end” statements. I also see this with Ann Coulter and most fringe talking heads. But again, I have nothing but admiration for the rally he put together.

    • JeffH

      You suffer deeply with Beckaphobia. I would expect a liberal to dis Beck, so I’m certainly not offended.

  • kate8

    TBA, I’d say quite the opposite. Glenn’s message is a voice of sanity in an insane world.

    He is one of the few who is willing to stand up and place his life on the line to speak the truth of what he sees, mostly unhindered by PC. He is also willing to set himself up for ridicule by those who don’t want his message to catch on.

    I’d really like one example from any of you of “hate” or “insanity”. You toss out these derogatory allegations, but don’t back anything up. That is pure Alinsky. I would question the sanity of anyone who views the things he says as insane.

    Glenn has gone a long way in waking up the apathetic masses, one way or another. It is up to us to take it from there.

    • TAKE BACK AMERICA

      He called President Obama a “racist with a “deep-seated hatred for white people” I could get you these quotes all day long. Please don’t place me in any “Hate” group or stereotype I merely said he was “certifiably insane”.

      • Lubo

        and your credentials to make that assessment would be?

        • TAKE BACK AMERICA

          Direct Quote, accessible by any and all. Type ‘Glen Beck’ into your browser, right click EVERYTHING in a new tab, sit back and weep. Very hard to see especially after seeing the rally (video) and agreeing completely with the “Restoring Honor” concept and premise.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            TBA,
            Since when is it insanity to speak the TRUTH about NOBAMA???? Remember, THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!!!!!

      • kate8

        TBA, speaking the truth does not qualify as insanity or hate speech.

        • TAKE BACK AMERICA

          You are truthfully a bigot.

          • kate8

            TBA – When you can’t win on principle, name-call.

            You, sir, reveal yourself as a fool.

          • TAKE BACK AMERICA

            Say what you will, your post is self evident. YOU ARE A BIGOT. I’m not calling names, you are what you are. Beck called President Obama a “racist with a “deep-seated hatred for white people”. You stated he was speaking the truth. What part of your agreement exempts you from being a Bigot. There is no need for me to “win on principle”, you prove my point for me.

      • JeffH

        Obama is a racist! I’m not but he is!

  • TAKE BACK AMERICA

    I had read somewhere that the Tea Party movement wanted a hostile takeover of the Republican Party. If this site is any indication, that mission is well on its way to reality. I think sooner or later the Republican party will need to ask itself who they want to speak for it. Today it’s the extreme Right, making this a politically historical era. I can’t help but think November will undoubtedly make or break the Tea Party’s power in Republican Politics. It’s been educational following your posts for the past few weeks. I thank you one and all and wish you the best. Good luck in November (you don’t stand a chance). TBA

    • Jana

      TAKE BACK AMERICA,
      A hostile take over?? If you read that somewhere you read it from a liberal persons post, which stands to reason. Calling people to turn back to God is NOT hostile.

  • http://msn Duma

    Everyone can voice their feelings and thoughts and opinions about who is right or who is wrong. But each and every comment is made by a human thought and a human opinion and human emotions therefore has the possibility to be wrong. The only ‘real truth’ is the word of God. You can believe it or not believe, it’s your choice, your right(for now). Each and every person on this planet from the beginning of time to the end of time will have the choice in what they chose to believe or not believe. Even the founders of the country made those choices.
    Some of you critisize all our Presidents and all who want to better this country that was blessed. But those who are critisizing aren’t standing up to the task. All said and done, in the end God will have the final say and EVERY KNEE will bow, believer or not you will bow before God and give and account for your life here on earth. Even our leaders!

  • Norman

    Reply to Duma,Amen Sir I concur,the Lord will reign supreme!

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