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Getting A Job

September 12, 2012 by  

Getting A Job
Do you need a job? Take what you can get.

The race for the Presidency is focusing on which candidate will best help people get a job. During the Democratic National Convention, Michelle Obama weighed in on the matter: “We (she and husband President Barack Obama) have to fix this. We have so much more to do.”

Whoever is elected in November, whether Obama or GOP Presidential nominee Mitt Romney, it will be his priority to improve the economy. If the economy does improve, that will create jobs. Yet two things strike me:

  1. The individual, not the government, must assume responsibility for his career path.
  2. It always has been difficult to find the job you want.

I was reminded of this when the first man to give me a job as a writer died last week at age 83. His name was Harald Gunderson and, as a teenager, he was a working cowboy. Later, he joined the Royal Canadian Navy. After that, he worked as a brakeman with the railroad until he finally got an opportunity to be a reporter for a small-town newspaper. A few years later, he got his big break and became a reporter for a large daily. He went on to successfully publish several magazines.

My dad, C. Vernon Myers, had a similar path.

In 1932, Vern had a college degree in geology and was awarded a gold medal as his college’s most outstanding graduate. He was certain he could get a good job and parlay that into the career that he wanted — to be a writer.

The Great Depression interrupted his ambitions for 12 years. There were no jobs available in the mining business, and the oil boom had not yet taken off in Canada.

Even though his parents had put every nickel they had in sending my dad away to college, he had to come back to the community and work on his parent’s homestead. He used to recount the shame he felt in their sacrificing so much only to see him working in the pen with hogs.

With his connection to a packing plant, he was able to get a job as a shipping clerk and had a guaranteed salary of $60 per month. He took various orders for hog livers, bacon and pork chops. He told me years later that he was dreadful at this job because he couldn’t keep the orders straight. And even though he was married at the time to his first wife (the daughter of the owner of the meat-packing empire), he wasn’t liked by the family. He was shipped off to the shipping floor where this once-college valedictorian spent his days hauling and packaging just-butchered pigs and cattle.

My dad had flat feet and was in so much pain he could barely walk home after a 10-hour shift. Physically spent and mentally unchallenged, he took his next job selling life insurance. He made a little more money and kept thinking about his ambition to be a writer. He read a book by Thomas H. Uzzell, who said: “When you write a million words, you will be competent at your craft.”

So Vern bought a used typewriter and after trying to sell life insurance six days a week, he would come home and pound out short stories. He later told me they were terrible but that after a couple of years and almost 1 million words, his work was showing improvement.

He tried to show his stories to newspaper editors, but to no avail. It was still the Depression, and new jobs for reporters were going to paper boys.

Finally Vern got a break because of World War II. He took a job helping to plan an oil pipeline from Canada to Fairbanks, Alaska. He was making $300 a month. He wrote a book in his spare time: Oil to Alaska.

After the war ended, he put all his savings into printing 1,000 copies of his book. He said they sold like “hotcakes.”

At the same time, there were two major oil strikes in Alberta. The two Calgary daily newspapers wanted someone who knew something about oil and who could also write. My dad walked into the publisher’s office with a copy of his book. The man skimmed it and after a few moments said: “Congratulations. You’re the new oil editor for the Calgary Herald.”

Nothing Worth Having Is Handed Out Freely

I knew the adversity my dad overcame, but I always assumed it was because of the Great Depression. I, too, wanted to be a writer; and I wrote for the university newspaper.

When I graduated in 1980, I was sure that some oil company would hire me as a public-relations writer. However, in 1980, Alberta’s oil boom had gone bust.

My dad had a successful investment newsletter, but he wasn’t going to give me a job out of the gate because he said I wouldn’t learn how to write if I was working for a monthly investment letter. He also wanted to see if I was willing to pay my dues.

Things had gotten so bad in Calgary that I was offered one job: to be a bank teller. I spent three months at that (I was abysmal at balancing my cash register) and quit my job on a Monday morning three days after marrying my wife Angie.

My parents paid for me to study journalism at a technical school for a year while Angie paid our living expenses with the salary she earned working at the hospital.

The next year, I was passing out my new resume. I wasn’t getting anywhere, but I still had one last place to go: Gunderson Publications. I did some research at the public library, got the latest copy of its flagship magazine, World of Beef, and saw that the publisher had just returned from his daughter’s cattle ranch in Ontario, Canada. I leveraged that to get into his office and started asking him about his trip, and how I wouldn’t disappoint him if he brought me on as a writer. He hired me. My starting salary was $700 a month.

I put in 3.5 years working for Harald. I covered one massive train wreck but spent most of my time at cattle shows and reporting on the results.

After a time, Vern thought I was good enough to start off as a researcher for his newsletter. My starting salary for MFE was $1,200 per month.

Nobody Owes You A Career

In the former Soviet Union, every citizen was guaranteed a job. What kind of job was decided by some committee. It doesn’t work that way in the United States, where there is still some liberty. Yet many people think they should be able to do what they want without the sacrifice — that the government or society should make it happen.

For example, my eldest son is a teacher in England. He has a life-long friend who calls himself a writer. This young man travels the world on the family’s money and writes a personal blog. He writes about things that interest him in his travels, and his writing is dreadful. I have suggested to him that if he wants to make a living as a writer, he has to make some sacrifices — like taking on a real writing job. Like so many people today, he doesn’t want to pay that price.

If these attitudes do not change, America’s fortunes are poor — regardless of who is elected President in November.

Yours in good times and bad,

–John Myers
Editor, Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • swampfox

    amen,it is the motivation to not be a bum that has always made me work and never ask for a handout,I wasn’t raised that way.
    as I said before,the bible says if a man dont work,he don’t eat.
    I sure as hell ain’t gonna trust Obama to bring jack from poop,as a journeyman carpenter,metal studd framer/hanger,hvac sheetmetal mech and doing commercial construction since I got out the corps,
    I was working hand over fist under bush,there was more work than you could shake a stick at.
    all that came to a abrupt halt when comrad obutski came.
    I have traveled all over doing what I do for a living and have struggled like i never have under this socialistic poop bag.
    and I am not alone,every one I know who is a tradesman has either went under or on the precipice of financial ruin.Obama is doing his level Marxist best to bring this nation down to a 3rd world socialistic pesthole.
    he needs to go!,I have lost what it took me years to aquire under this stooge,if it wasn’t for my faith in god and my doggedness to never quit i’d have went under,like a good friend of mine who commited suicide when he lost his job and then his house and couldn’t support his family,he couldn’t handle the depression,I wasn’t there to pray with him as i was trying to help.a buddy of mine get a fence co going in arkansas which he had to sell lock stock and barrel because of the economy under Ovomit.
    we cannot survive another four years of comrad obutski,that’s a pure dee fact!
    socialism sucks,it will leave when oblivit leaves and we working folks can all work again under romney.
    that’s my take on it.ROMNEY 2012!!!!!

    • KG

      I just love it when smug, entrenched, old white guys tell everybody how “hard” the had it. “I walked to school, in the snow, up hill *both ways* ;) So stop yer bellyaching and start flipping burgers.” Well, then, if everybody is so lazy, then how can we have low unemployment like we did during Clinton?

      Surely, all of these “lazy” people want to work, or else the unemployment rate would never go down. It’s that crazy Idea people have. That they actually want something better out of life. I didn’t know ambition was a sin – Oh, unless you are a mortgage broker selling derivatives.

      I was going to college in the early 90′s. I was hoping to get my bachelors degree in Engineering. My Uncle was an engineer, and very successful. So I figured I’d do the same. However, while riding the bus to school, I met a fellow who worked for the IBEW electricians union. He told me that they were looking for apprentices and I should go take the test. Well, I passed the test and started as an electrical apprentice.

      I spent 5 years as an apprentice, did almost 800+ hours of classroom training, 8000+ hours of “on the job” training, and turned out as a Journeyman Electrician. Within 3 years I was making as much if not more than I would have if I were an engineer. And, working Union, I knew that I would be safe at work. I knew my checks would clear and that I would be treated with respect. The same things YOU DEMAND is what people also want. So stop complaining about all of those “lazy” people and “suck it up.” Because the Revolution “…will not be televised.”

      • Michael J.

        Guess what Union Man, the guaranteed job and wages you boast of are what’s breaking the backs of your neighbors in this economic decline by design.

        And your years spent in government brainwashing centers,(college) has blinded you to reality.

        BTW, Thanks, we now understand where your thuggish additude comes from.

      • KG

        Who sounds more like a “thug?” It seems as though you have a little “jealousy” in you comment. And BTW, my Union wages are NOT whats killing our economy, it’s the idiots in our House of Representatives who are ON PURPOSE jeopardizing OUR ECONOMY for POLITICAL GAIN.

        Instead of passing legislation to build stuff, they argue about “abortion” and “Planned Parenthood” and making sure that “Obama is a one term president.”

        So, who’s to blame? I blame the idiots that were elected in 2010 out of fear stirred up by that Atheist Karl Rove. Just because you fear loosing the right to use your guns to do your rampage at work.

        “Reward our friends, punish our enemies.” Samuel Gompers – founder of the CIO.

      • http://charter jo smith

        It is really amazing that people like thing you are infallble. Your not you could loss you job just like the rest of us. I love it that you blame everyone except the one who is in control.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        MichaelJ, KG doesn’t care since he believes his position is secure. Human predators don’t stop until they savage the population that pays their salaries and then when there is no more to be got they savage each other.

      • Vigilant

        KG some time ago told me he admits the communist roots of labor unions, but won’t admit that their fundamental aims are still communist in nature.

        He even went so far as to make the ludicrous claim that communism is expressed in our Constitution simply because the terms “We the People” and “general welfare” were contained therein. What an idiot.

        His communist sympathies, no doubt the outcome of socialist programming in the schools, are evident throughout his postings.

        He uses “code” phrases such as “Instead of passing legislation to build stuff,” as if that’s the job of Congress. And then he takes a page from Marx/Lenin with “Because the Revolution “…will not be televised.”

        KG represents EVERYTHING that is wrong with this country today, and is blind as a bat to the real reason for our demise, i.e., the very bankrupt philosophy he regurgitates at every opportunity.

      • DaveH

        KG says — “I just love it when smug, entrenched, old white guys tell everybody how “hard” the had it”.
        I just love it when Liberal Progressives reveal themselves as the hypocrite racists that they are.

        KG says — “Within 3 years I was making as much if not more than I would have if I were an engineer. And, working Union, I knew that I would be safe at work. I knew my checks would clear and that I would be treated with respect”.
        And your employer knew that when you coerced him for more than you were worth that he better comply because if he didn’t you would enlist the aid of Bully Government to Forcibly take what was his. And the employer knew that he couldn’t expect same respect from you, KG, because your Gang would make him pay if he protested.

      • yoyis

        Many people white or not, have struggle in life to make ends meet and to have an education. No matter what some of you say, belonging to a union is nothing to brag about. It is everybody’s knowledge what the union thugs are. Notorious criminals have been union bosses.

      • DaveH

        KG says — “Who sounds more like a “thug?””.
        You do, KG. Unionists don’t get their pay raises voluntarily. They get them because if they don’t, they resort to coercion or other forms of thuggery, such as attacking those who would happily take their jobs for less, intimidating customers, intimidating their employers (who get no “respect” from those who lust after their money).

      • Chester

        Actually, any raises KG gets are earned. I see a lot of people on here who have NEVER worked in a union shop, or even close to one, and for sure never as an electrician or plumber. Both those jobs will be around as long as there is any business building being or rebuilding being done, and both of them DEMAND a lot of study and hands on training before you are allowed to strike out on your own. There are a few on here who might have something close to as much training as KG had to go through to get to where he is now, and Warrior, you are one of the few I am talking about. Oh, and Warrior, if you got your twenty or more in the way your name and posts suggest, you have a better guaranteed income than KG will EVER have. As far as unions being the death of industry here, will disagree wholeheartedly with that statement. Tax credits for moving operations overseas, tariff free re-importation of manufactured goods, like Apple’s I pad and I phone, and other incentives to moving operations out of the country have more to do with jobs leaving than unions. When you can take a job to China, have the work done for less than even a cut rate non-union shop here con do it for, then bring the finished product back into the country duty free, why keep the job here?

      • DaveH

        Who do you think pays for those Unearned Union raises? The employer either raises his product prices (if he can), lowers the pay of his/her non-union workers, lays off other workers, gives up the business, or moves somewhere where he/she isn’t subject to the Forcible Coercion of Unionists.
        The Employer isn’t in business to lose money. If the Employer can’t make a decent return on his/her investment, then he will throw in the towel and do what the rest of us do. Whatever the Employer’s choice is, the rest of us must pay the bill through higher prices, lost wages, or lost jobs.
        There is no Free Lunch. When one person or group of persons gains Unearned advantage, the rest of the population must pay the bill. It is just a fact of life.

      • KG

        I guess all of you would be willing to work for free? I guess ENRON was a good example of business in America?

        Ya know, it’s kinda funny when you say i “stole” my wages and that it’s a shame to admit I can’t do it alone. My contractor has to bid against non-union companies and we have to be competitive with them – even if they are unqualified. Thanks to Regan, even contractors who have been caught cheating their employes STILL get to bid jobs against Union contractors. And despite the non-union cheating their employes out of prevailing wages, the Union contractor is STILL COMPETITIVE. If he wasn’t HE WOULD BE OUT OF BUSINESS. So think about that – who is stealing from who?

        How does a White guy say “F” you? TRUST ME.

      • swampfox

        I have seen union workers in action,we non union guys usually work circles around them cause they are slow.
        they are used to just coasting on the job.I once was told and this happened more than once to slow down as i was used to humping and getting footage up to keep my job.
        I tried the carpenters union and it was a bunch of,I never heard so much propagandic crap in my life.I went to only one of those stupid meetings and that was enough for me,never went to another after the first one.
        and when they dont have any work they actually encourage taking unemployment rather than finding more work elsewhere,yet they still want their dues so the fat union cronies can stay rich while the workers are broke
        screw unions,I have experianced unions and dont need their b.s!

      • eddie47d

        Meyers invoked the Great Depression and how terrible it was. It certainly was and can be traced back primarily to the Banksters and Wall Street. Today our problems can also be traced to the Banksters and Wall Street. Government can also be blamed for both in how they handled those duel situations. After each event the government grew and the Banks grew and all this will happen again. .

      • Buster the Anatolian

        “My contractor has to bid against non-union companies and we have to be competitive…”

        At one time I worked for the state highway department. One of the rules applied to every job bid that used any amount of federal funds to help pay for was the contractors had to pay union scale no matter if the company was union or not so there was no competative advantage for non union companies.

      • DaveH

        KG says — “I guess all of you would be willing to work for free?”.
        That’s a non sequitur KG. I’m talking about voluntary contracts, free of coercion, between you and your employer, nobody else — The moral thing to do. If you think you’re worth more than a company is willing to pay, go elsewhere, or start your own company. Show us how it’s done, KG.

        KG says — “I guess ENRON was a good example of business in America?”.
        No KG, Enron is an example of Crony Capitalism, Government gone wrong. And it’s in both of the major Parties — Republican and Democrat. Read this and learn something:

    • Ted

      Sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never me. Why haven’t you learned that yet?

    • GALT

      And the w.i.A.L.F. idiocy continues…….from some seriously overweight “canadian” who makes his living trading on “secrets”………

      There is a scientific definition of “work”……our windbag Mr Myers has never done any, otherwise he wouldn’t look like the next candidate for a triple bypass……..or quadruple bypass……..

      Still, for all that diatribe…….which is essentially “fallacy” regarding his “attempted argument”………..we must ask why he appears in this “forum”…….I mean if his “product” is
      so valuable………he should be RICH many times over…… WHY is he still talking?

      Is he so “bored” in real life……that THIS is all he can do? How is he any different from the
      “glory days” athletes who don’t know when to stop?

      Yo, fat boy…….when you have “serious unemployment” this means that “jobs” are NOT
      available………….and this “market” means that what Adam Smith wrote in 1776 is the
      expected result………of course, no one really knows what Adam Smith wrote…..just like
      no one knows that the phrase ” unalienable rights” is also nonsense, when confronted
      with REALITY!

      How America ( and I mean U.S. ) became an EMPIRE is through systematic, slavery, conquest, theft and genocide….or if you like “ethnic cleansing”……and those who did
      not fit…….went WEST!

      In case you haven’t noticed, going WEST is not possible………but NORTH?

      Maybe it’s time for a little MORE……”Manifest Destiny”………I mean, what are the dangers,
      Mr Myers with an assault rifle……..*

      *the preceding has been total sarcasm from the P.L.F. position…..nuff said!”

      ” To conquer, first DIVIDE!!!!!!!” ( and the HANG, separately!!!!!!!!!)

      • Jay

        Project much, Galt?

  • independant thinker

    There are far to many graduates today that think their degree entitles them to start in the middle or higher. Very few want to start with what is available and work their way up. After a few keep food on the table jobs I got a start with a major retail company. Even though I had a college degree I started in the stockroom and worked my way up to running a single department them several and so on until I was promoted to associate store manager. While I was working I saw all to many who would work for a couple of days or maybe a couple of weeks and just quit showing up because they were actualy expected to work while on the clock.

  • Warrior

    Season’s Greetings

    T’was the night before elections,
    And all thru’ the town,
    Tempers were flaring
    Emotions ran up and down.

    I, in my bathrobe
    With a cat in my lap,
    Had shut off the TV,
    tired of political crap.

    When all of a sudden,
    There arose such a noise,
    I peered out my window,
    Saw Obama and his boys

    They had come for my wallet,
    They wanted my pay
    To hand out to others
    Who had not worked a day!

    He snatched up my money,
    And quick as a wink,
    Jumped back on his bandwagon
    As I gagged from the stink.

    He then rallied his henchmen
    Who were pulling his cart.
    I could tell they were out
    To tear my country apart!

    ‘On Fannie, on Freddie,
    On Biden and Ayers!
    On Acorn, on Pelosi’
    He screamed at the pairs!

    They took off for his cause,
    And as they flew out of sight,
    I heard him laugh at a nation
    Who wouldn’t stand up and fight!
    So I leave you to think on this one final note…

    • KG

      Wow, I didn’t know how creative you could be in piling up horse manure. My guess is that you are actually jealous of the people you hate so much. Gee, if you only paid your taxes, you might have qualified for Social Security. But, since you were “nobodys fool”, you took Regans advice and became an entremanuer. Now, your broke, have NO retirement, and can only find OTHER people to blame.

      I choose to be a part of OUR society. I KNOW I CANNOT DO IT ALONE. Just like Hillary said “…it takes a village.” Wise up while you can, and you could participate in this great country too.

      • Warrior

        Comrade, your red shirt is so becoming! Don’t let “the man” keep you down, go out there and fight. I’ll bet your a hit at your monthly “pep-rally’s”. Go get em tiger, keep kissing the right asses and you may find yourself in line for that “golden BA” job to aspire to.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You are bragging that you are a leach and a parasite.

      • Vigilant

        KG(B) says, ” I KNOW I CANNOT DO IT ALONE.”

        Sounds like a personal problem. What ever happened to that self-esteem regimen you were force-fed in school?

        That puts you squarely in the pockets of the regime that encourages sloth and indolence as they add you to the government dependency roles.

      • DaveH

        KG says — “My guess is that you are actually jealous of the people you hate so much”.
        Maybe, maybe not KG, but I would bet that Warrior wouldn’t forcibly take other peoples’ money like you Union thieves do using Big Government as your proxy robbers.

        KG says — “I choose to be a part of OUR society”.
        No you don’t, KG. You choose to be part of a small group of people who take advantage of the rest of society to get ahead. If all of are society were like you, KG, you would have nobody to plunder and would have to accept a reasonable wage for your work, Voluntarily.

      • momo

        KG says: “you took Regans advice and became an entremanuer.”

        If it wasn’t for the “entremanuer” you’d never have a job.

      • JC

        Kamrade KG, there is no such things “your taxes”. We are ripped off daily by an agency that collects the interest for a bunch of foreign bankers…that’s where your tax dollar goes.
        They don’t work for, nor do they answer to the government.
        You sir, may be hard working ‘yourself”, but the Unions have become nothing more than parasites we can no longer support. I give you the Eurozone as a prime example. The wheels are falling off your socialist utopia and that was easily predictable.
        Out of the ashes may we be born again “American” and ever Vigilant.

      • Jay


        Ah yes, the official slogan of our socialist-progressive-education system! Are you here to foster the herd-mentality, KG?

    • Paula

      I believe it to be just the opposite… You must be soooo rich, you Don’t want to pay (any) taxes… Obama doesn’t Steal paychecks – Republicans DO… Who authorized all the outsourcing for the past 8 years BEFORE Obama inherited this mess…
      Q: Why won’t congress approve his tax hikes on millionaires?
      A: Because They’re ALL millionaires already and will never know hunger or poverty.

      I Worked the last 25 years of my life – only to come to this!

      Oh how I wish
      I could cut & paste
      The picture of a White Man
      Holding up a billboard in haste

      Bush F**Ked the Economy
      We Blame the Black Guy

      If you don’t believe it –
      you need a Lobotomy

      • jcfromdc

        Ms.Paula “Get a Lobotomy”, check your history… Mr. Clinton gave Red China “Most Favored Nation” trading status while HE was prez. Now WHO was it who outsourced those jobs? For 8 years PRIOR to Bush? US History did not start with GWB. Obama, our self-annointed messiah, said it himself, that if HE couldn’t “fix it” in 4 years, he didn’t deserve a second term. His words, not mine.

      • Vigilant

        ” Who authorized all the outsourcing for the past 8 years BEFORE Obama inherited this mess…”

        Answer: The Constitution.

      • Bill

        Get on the stick Paula – do some research. It wasn’t Bush – it was the democratic congress for thelast 2 years of the Bush administration. It was also Clinton who believed EVERY one should own a home. Some of this blame game can be put on Bush, but not the majority of it. additionally, the Republicans will not approve Obama’s millioniar tax because it puts the tax on people earning 250000 per year – a far cry from a million. Maybe if Obama took his time to learn in school instead of doing drugs, he would have learned that there is a big difference between 250000 and 1 million. Obama – the first affirmative actions president – and it’s showing.

      • DaveH

        Wake up, Paula, you are being duped. It isn’t the Republicans. It isn’t the Democrats. It’s both of them who are robbing us blind for the benefit of themselves and their Crony Capitalists. As long as they can keep fools like you rooting for your favorite team, they can keep looting the rest of us — Directly and Indirectly. Directly with taxes. Indirectly with excess money creation, and Crony-Capitalist-favoring regulations which stifle their competitors, cause higher prices for their consumers, and are paid for by the taxpayers (who do you think pays for those meddlesome bureaucrats?).
        Pick up a copy of this book at your Library, Paula, to get a clue of what’s really going on. And then continue with other enlightening reading:
        Your problems aren’t caused by just Republicans or just Democrats, Paula. They are caused by an interventionist Big Government that is spending 40% of our GDP. That is 13 times as much Government as the US had before 1900. That was before the Warfare/Welfare century started.

      • JC

        AND it was the Clinton administration that took the reins off of Fannie and Freddie in order for “everyone” to own a home. naturally it was a disaster in the making and GWB was lucky enough to inherit that disaster. Not to mention a certain Kenyan who worked tirelessly with the Clinton admin. to push it through. What a bunch of lying sacks of…the Democrats really are.

    • jcfromdc

      May I post this on FaceBook?

      • Vigilant

        I certainly hope you do. The lack of cadence, rhyming skills and common sense will not gain Paula a Pulitzer Prize.

        P.S. I don’t see a copyright logo. You may repost anything without it.

    • jcfromdc

      Can I borrow this? Will post your “handle” and reference here? This is inspired!

    • swampfox

      that was good,enjoyed it,thanks.

    • Hey you

      Voting IS collectivism and collectivism IS socialism.

      • JC

        Wow, are you suggesting that democracy doesn’t represent “individual rights” ? ;-)

  • sesame

    The Congressional Budget Office has predicted that 12,000,000 jobs will be created in the next four years regardless of who is elected

    • nnicko

      If you wait long enough, the CBO will have changed that figure 4 times over…If obummer doesn’t listen to the CBO, and we have high unemployment with our Corporation going to other countries because the left calls them evil, would those jobs entail foreign travel…like China ? Low wages, no union but benefits, (all the rice you can eat) but you have 4 years to decide and with obozo, get use to food stamps and hand-outs. There will be the occasional MOOSHELL desert -handout tray……enjoy!

      • Paula

        You need a history lesson (do your fact checking on how the “government” works) and you’ll learn that its not Obama – its Congress…
        Read @Alex for your lesson..

      • Vigilant

        Paula, you need both a history lesson and a current events lesson (do your fact checking on how Obama works).

        Selective enforcement of Federal law (re: immigration, Defense of Marriage Act, anchor baby benefits and refusal to pursue voter intimidation and election fraud), complete violation of UCC bankruptcy law (Re: GM), appointment of tyrannical and unaccountable Czars, illegal recess appointments of Federal officials, and use of regulatory agencies to sidestep the Congress and Constitution.

        Do you still think this nation is operating under Constitutional checks and balances? If you do, you are a babe in the woods.

    • Jon

      Did they happen to mention in which country the jobs would be created?

      • nnicko

        China for one…after that it’s your european guess! There is news about N.Dakota…..they need smart people….lefty liberals need not apply, just hard, smart people that are unionless and refuse handouts.

      • JC

        Good question…after all GM got bailed out and now 70% of what they sell is made in China. Obviously a good investement….for China.

    • Hurt Burt

      And the applicants for those jobs are waiting in line after slipping through our porous border. Citizens need not apply.

  • Alex

    Fright Wing Mantra: “Wealth alone creates jobs; Government does NOT!”

    Fright Wing Whine: “Where are the jobs from the Obama GOVERNMENT?”

    Ask your representative in Congress and your Senators, ask the local GOP head, ask your
    local Chamber of Commerce, ask anyone you can where the jobs are from ELEVEN YEARS of Bush Tax Cuts—remember, the ones that would allow the wealthiest amongst us to cause jobs to “trickle down” to the unemployed?

    It did not work for Reagan or for either Bush the Elder or Bush the Lesser. It will not work if Mitt Romney is elected. Time and again we have been shown that the ONLY thing that “trickles down” is urine—the GOP bottles it and calls it “Tea”…

    Amazingly, somehow, against ALL history and logic, enough of you on the Right fall for the Trickle Down Theory that you allow your masters to perpetuate it! You’re like the drunk who continues to think he can control himself, that things will be different THIS TIME. Continuing to appease the rich to your own, and your country’s, detriment does not stimulate the economy—it only creates more wealth. Again, please, where ARE the jobs from ELEVEN YEARS of Bush Tax Cuts?

    The truest ever comment about Capitalism? Easy—”There’s a sucker born every minute…”

    • gordy three horses

      and you are one of the biggest

    • Paula

      Thank God there’s a voice of reason besides my own!!!
      I can’t defend Obama enough from all the onslaughts…
      Kudos to your:

      The ONLY thing that “trickles down” is urine—the GOP bottles it and calls it “Tea”…
      Read @Alex Again America… Wake up already!

      America – take it out on somebody who really deserves it – Fire Congress!

    • deerinwater

      “”There’s a sucker born every minute…””

      It’s like the car buyer telling the sales man, ” You must think that I’m crazy to pay that price for this car?” The salesman says, “No Sir. , I don’t think that you are crazy but if you were, I have no plans to throw away the opportunity”.

      Trickle down? Works great! ~ when you are the “Trickier”

    • DaveH

      Paula, Alex is far from a voice of reason.
      Reason tells us that Big Government cannot create productive jobs. If they could they wouldn’t need to levy taxes, as they could create their own wealth instead of stealing other peoples’ wealth. Every dollar that is stolen from the Private Sector is a dollar that would have been spent more productively in the Private Sector than it will be spent in the Public Sector. Reason tells us that Government employees have the Power of Force and given that Power, it is inevitable that they will abuse it and take advantage of the rest of us. Reason tells us that Government Employees, with their protected jobs, aren’t going to work as productively as Private Sector Employees who can’t force their consumers to buy their goods or services.
      And if Reason isn’t your strong suit, like in Alex’s case and your case, Paula, than perhaps you can learn from experience:
      As Government Grows, the Economy Slows.

      • DaveH

        For those who want to learn some Reason:

        No doubt in my mind that neither Alex or Paula would upset their cushy little apple-cart by reading this book. But fortunately there are others out there who just haven’t been exposed to the other side of the issue, having been only exposed to the Propaganda that we all endure, who will read the book and learn why Capitalism works and Socialism fails.

      • momo

        @DaveH, you’re assuming Alex and Paula can read.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        momo, you must mean that what they post here has been written up for them by their handlers.

      • Alex

        Just answer the question at hand, DaveH, and stop your usual SKIRTing of all issues just so you can plug the decrepit Mises Institute of Social Regression—-where ARE the jobs from ELEVEN YEARS of Bush Tax Cuts?

      • DaveH

        You make no sense. Where are the jobs for 4 years of Obama? As I said, Government doesn’t create productive jobs. Sure they can “create” jobs, but they aren’t productive and desirable by the public, or the public would buy those products without Government intervention. And for every job that Government “creates”, there would have been more jobs created in the Private Sector with that same money that was taken from them.
        It doesn’t matter to anybody but the Government Shills whether it is a Democratic administration or a Republican administration.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      But you are a Collectivist/Marxist/Socialist/etc.,etc.. Capitalism scares you because you may fail and go hungry and work long hours and lose sleep and get hurt. Must have that god government to stand behind you as the safety net.

    • Hurt Burt

      I noticed that you failed to mention that the same did not work for the long legged mack-daddy either. Could it be that his continuation of the Afghan war has failed too?

  • Paula

    I qualify for 80% of the Financial IT jobs on the market, but am told I’m “over-qualified” I’ve always prided myself and my skillset to overcome racial bias, but now, the job market is so precarious that, I get the feeling that they’d much rather hire a dummy that won’t offer any true solutions to everyday work problems, so the person who’s hiring the help won’t see competition… Can’t (dumb it down) cause they already think all Blacks are dumb to begin with. I have another interview this week (my 25th)… And you’re going to tell me nobody owes me a job? Like the sign says, “I want to WORK”

    As far as everybody’s poltical views, Conservative Tea Baggers already vowed Obama would be a one-term president, and have done everything in their power to undermine him. So what he had a Democrat-controlled house his first two years – if 80% of the house is AGAINST you, it doesn’t matter if you’re a Democrat or Republican.

    Go ahead and sell your soul to Romney if you want. The day you loose your job because he outsourced it, and can’t be treated at a hospital because he repealed Healthcare Reform (Not Obamacare), you’ll wish you had a Democrat in office.

    You wanna fix the system – Fire Congress – not the President!
    You wanna know why they won’t vote for his platforms? He’ll be successful if they do…

    Do your fact checking people…
    I can’t wait for the Debates Next Month!!

    Those of you who are unemployed have given up – I will Never give up because “somebody” needs what I know – I have knowledge and “Experience”

    Stock Market Record High – Companies are hiring again. Get off the Blog and repost your resume… I do it every two weeks to keep myself current!

    • gordy three horses

      i had a night mare, i dreamed i was in bed with tonya harding, larena bobit and hilary clinton. when i awoke both my knees were broken, my pepe had been hacked off,and my health care had been canceled.

    • Larry

      Speaking of fact check, you might want to get after that chore soon before you vote! You might change your mind about who you vote for in November

    • Michael J.

      Paula asks:
      “And you’re going to tell me nobody owes me a job?”

      Yes,no one owes you a job. We are each responsible for our own future.
      Your mindset is at the same time pitiful and very telling.

      • DaveH

        I second that motion.
        Why, Paula, don’t you create your own company and jobs? Why do you think you’re entitled to take from those who have?

      • momo

        Exactly, DaveH. If paula can’t find a job then she might want to hire herself, I did and I never looked back.

      • JC

        That’s right…no one owes you ANYTHING. :)
        (not in the “real” world)

      • Hurt Burt

        Yeah! get out and pull some fiber, learn to trench with a back hoe and climb poles!

    • Vigilant

      Poor Paula laments, “And you’re going to tell me nobody owes me a job? Like the sign says, “I want to WORK.”

      You’re damned right, NO ONE OWES YOU A JOB!” What a sad statement about you and your type: no doubt, you were programmed into the entitlement mentality long ago.

      I can see the day when the revisionists will alter Jefferson’s famous line to “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, the pursuit of Happiness, guaranteed employment, three square meals a day and bed, health care, spending money, a flat screen TV and two cars in the garage.”

      When that day comes, the Constitution will have long ago been flushed, and people like you will have made it happen.

    • DaveH

      Paula says — “cause they already think all Blacks are dumb to begin with”.
      That is purely speculation, Paula, on your part. As a matter of fact, more blacks are prejudiced against whites, than visa versa. Here is some evidence for that:

      Note that most Blacks believe that Blacks are more racist.

      I can only speak for myself but, when I hear a Black speak out for morality and self-sufficiency, I feel a mixture of love and sympathy for them. Sympathy because I know that their own people will be hardest on them for their holding of such convictions.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      So why are you posting here instead of looking for a job even one that is supposedly beneath your supposed high intelligence?

      • Hey you

        That posted question is the most pertinent which i’ve seen on this site.

      • Michael J.

        Hey You,
        Keep Looking!
        BTW, which ones Pink?

      • Karolyn

        Well, that’s a pretty ridiculous remark! Like a job search takes 24 hours a day?

      • DaveH

        Why heck, Karolyn can comment at will, and she has a job.

      • Karolyn

        Uh, Dave, where’ve you been? i’ve been out of work for over 2 months.

      • JC

        Sorry to hear it Karolyn

  • gordy three horses

    if any of you want to really be free, then go to the wilderness and really be self relieant.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      What a stupid and flippant comment.

      • Buster the Anatolian

        While it might be flipant it is not stupid. The remark is especialy applicable to those like Paula who think the world owes them a job just because they say they want one.

    • Michael J.

      gordy three horses says:
      “if any of you want to really be free, then go to the wilderness and really be self relieant.”

      Good advice, when urban areas soon crumble and turn to dust, those who’ve taken to the wilderness, graced with true insight intuitive and a bit of luck, will be the ones tasked with securing the future of humanity.

      • JC

        Already got a spot picked out and I still hunt. And since it’s something I do well…I’ll still be quite comfortable…if the need should arise.

  • Jim K

    Well, I, too have a story. I’ve worked most of my life, sometimes with as many as three jobs. Since I was born with spinal bifida I was able to get some assistance in going to college. This I paid back by working four years at 50% of scale as a chemist for the State. I didn’t have to do this; I just thought it proper. While working I went to graduate school at night. Unfortunately, I was offered a job for more money, in another city, and moved away with but 2 quarters left for my doctorate. Since then I’ve changed careers four times, working twice as a Federal contractor, once for a large Universality, and twice for a Federal agencies. During that time I’ve partnered in a company and, managed a farm. To supplement the scholarship that only paid tuition, I worked as an electrician, a plumber, a short order cook, a chicken fryer, and bought and sold cars and motorcycles. I really didn’t have to do much of anything as I was told after my disability evaluation that I qualified for total disability and could go directly on the rolls. Funny thing is, I did not want to do nothing, I’d rather do anything. Lest you think I’ve skated my way to a fat government check, looking up from the computer I can see six bronze medals and one gold from the feds one silver medal from the Navajo Nation, and several plaques for assisting other Agencies outside my employment. I’ve been my State’s Federal employee of the year and recognized for my activities in a Federal-Industrial consortium that produces guidance documents for researchers. All this while I was a Red Cross volunteer for over 50 years and a volunteer firefighter for 27 years (three firefighter of the year certificates).

    That’s the background, as far as government goes, I want them to leave me alone. Regardless of the new healthcare plan, I’ll never be able to get long term disability insurance; so, I’ll have to work until I die. I resent anyone trying to take away my means of self defense as I live about a half hour away from police presence. And, I despise socialism and communism.

    If you are a human being and can, work. Do whatever job you can; because in my opinion those that leech upon the rest of us don’t deserve anything. This applies to all levels, wealthy and poor. Only through working for your living do you develop a sense of belonging and responsibility. So often I’ve seen those that have been given everything just lounge about complaining.

  • JCfromDC

    Your eldest son’s “lifelong” friend should have his family’s money supply cut off and really have to start “working for a ‘living’ “, instead of being the family sponge. You son should also probably choose better friends, that one is a bad influence.

  • deerinwater

    It amazes me how people are about jobs! They seem to believe that it up to them to find someone that will “give them one”.

    My father was that way as well, ~ he only understood “work by the hour.”

    This mindset is killing us!

    I accept the fact that I will work everyday of my life, attempting to do something “ANYTHING” gainful. I stay in the “Hunter/Gather” mode.

    This selling your soul for a 8 hour day and a pay check and 2 week vacation has a serious down side.

    Go made yourself a “JOB”, find a need and fill it.

    Stop waiting for some rich man to pat you on the head or your God or Government to save you.

    It’s not rocket surgery! get off your assets! go out and met the people! Get involved with the worlds day.

    “The world is ran by the people that show up”

    Woody Allen

    ” I approve of this message”


    • Michael J.

      Dear inwater,
      Though fleeting, there are times when you sound almost normal.

    • Vigilant

      “It’s not rocket surgery!”

      You’ve used that pitiful term before, Bob. Care to explain it?

      • DaveH

        You know. Like when a rocket gets appendicitis or something like that.

      • Vigilant


      • JC

        That’s when you have to send in a “Brain Scientist” ;-)

    • alpha-lemming

      Nicely said….. the essence of capitalist entrepeneurialship. Find a niche and fill it. Finding/creating work in something you’re passionate about helps too (a continuing thread throughout this aticle). Eventually, you’ll encounter competition, the principles of “kaizen” (perpetual improvement) will direct the genesis of your product/service…. prices will drop, consumers will be happier…. it really is the American way.

      Unsaid in the the piece is is the spate of useless degrees out there. The citations in the article concerned higher education in preparation for REAL jobs requiring advanced skills. Kids will put themselves in debt going to college, approaching 6 digits, and come out with a degree in something like… oh I dunno…… “Womens Studies”. How does THAT help you get a better job??? Leave it to a Lib-gressive to expect to get paid to do a job that every guy in the country does all the time……. FOR FREE !!!!!

  • Dale Patterson

    You know what folks, if the U.S. was run in stick accordance with the constitution we wouldn’t have the problems of TRILLION dollar deficits, high unemployment, huge prison populations, and corruption.

    • JC

      That’s a fact!

  • jopa

    JimK; In the beginning of your story you claim you had some assistance to go to college.In Mitt Romney’s world I hope you borrowed the money from your father and not a Government loan or grant.That would be taboo and make you a low life leach.He thinks everyone was born with a golden spoon in their mouths where as I think he needs a good old work boot up where his head is.

    • DaveH

      It is NOT Government’s money to give or to lend, Jopa. When you vote for Government to take other peoples’ money, you are nothing more than a member of a thieving gang, no matter how noble you claim your ends are, the means are immoral. Besides that, the truth is that the Bigger Government gets, the Smaller the Economy gets, thus more people suffering not less.

  • matforce

    Plutocratic “multinational” corporations are sitting on record profits (over $1 TRILLION) by employing sweat shops all over the world (Especially China, $1.36/hr. avg. wage) and kick the high pay USA worker to the curb. The beauty of this sweet deal is: they import their cheap junk here, tariff-free to fleece the unemployed/underemployed USA worker for all )they’re worth, undersell the holdouts to this offshoring trend and the small businesses (the real “job creators”; how disingenuous! that are cutting costs to the bone to compete, not to mention the downward pressure on wages here that is killing the goose that laid the golden egg (the US middle class consumer).

    Sweet deal, especially when our federal tax code is rife with loopholes to the tune of $tens of BILLIONS/yr. to offset the expenses of building/maintaining factories that employ foreign workers in the “global economy” of “emerging markets.” What hasn’t been reverse engineered, or GIVEN to China’s burgeoning manufacturing mecca, they have stolen, manufactured, and placed on the market before our entreperneures can get investors here sitting on their $$$ Billions to get it off an assembly line.

    This current economic model, supply side economics that’s been in place for 30 years now, benefits nobody but the top. There are millions of proud middle class USA workers out there who would be overjoyed to have even a menial manufacturing job right now, slumped over a grinder, or lathe with an eye loop on making parts, but those jobs don’t exist here. How does Germany maintain their high wage scale (mostly unionized) and still protect their industrial base from being undersold by the sweat-shop labor forces in SE Asia? They impose a 19% tariff, and the WTO doesn’t bat an eye; we do that and it would be an international incident…

    • momo

      It’s called globilization, its also simple. If it costs me X to manufacture a widget here in the US, but it costs less than X in China, I’ll be making widgets in China.

      • Thinking About

        momo, sell your widgets in China also since the people who could have been hired in the US does not have jobs and can not afford your widgets. Continue to take your jobs to other countries and keep those products in those countries. Got it.

      • Buster the Anatolian

        Obviously Thinking About once again has done no thinking. The American consumer by way of Wallyworld and its low price “promise” demand ever lower prices thus the product gets made overseas instead of here. If the American consumer would deliberately pay more for just 10% of their purchases to buy American jobs would not be leaving the US and would even come back. However Never Thinks About Anything most Americans just like you demand the lowest price possible and therefore the jobs go to the places that can provide the lowest prices.

      • momo

        @Thinking About it, obviously your oblivious to US government policy, ie, free trade. China has most favored nation status, Canada and Mexico have free trade agreements, as do a few other smaller countries. Also, Walmart, as Buster notes, is always pushing for lower prices, as are other retailers, so the question facing manufactuers is how do I lower my costs? As labor makes up about 70 percent of costs, its easy to start cutting costs there. I didn’t say it was right, but with the government policies we have today, that’s where we are. You can also note that the US doesn’t manufacture many things in this day and age.

      • matforce

        Globalize this: If you want access to the still potent but dwindling USA consumer market with your cheap [expletive deleted], before we descend into 3rd world status, you pay a tariff, tax, or fee (don’t care what you call it) for the privilege.

        Has it ever occurred to you that these FTAs are an instrument of “global” forces like the IMF or World Bank to fleece the USA of its mammoth wealth? Look into the history of the Bretton Woods Agreements (1944) and their oversight of international trade, and when it became connected to NATO, Bretton Woods Bankers stepped into the shadows but still pulled the strings of international trade? When that wasn’t a good fit, they re-emerged as the International Monetary Fund and World Bank. If these overseers of international trade get even a small fraction of one red cent for each international transaction, you have to ask yourself: What nation on Earth has the most money to be fleeced, and how are you going to do it? Fertile ground for conspiracy theorists… Need a parachute?

      • matforce

        Globalize this: If you want access to the world’s biggest consumer market (still potent, but fading) with your cheap [expletive delete] before we slip into 3rd world status, then pay a fee, tariff, tax (I don’t care what you call it) for the privilege.

        Has it ever occured to you that these FTAs have provided the means through which to destroy the USA’s soverenty? Check into the Bretton Woods Agreements (1944) where these international bankers oversaw international trade. They became a function of NATO, and slipped into the shadows, but they still pulled the financial strings of international commerce. NATO didn’t suit them, so they became the Internaional Monetary Fund/World Bank where they exert their oversight on world trade today. As overseers, If they receive just an infinitecimal fraction of one red cent stippend for every international transaction, you gotta ask your self: What is the wealthiest nation on Earth, and how do we fleece them?
        With a $600 BILLION trade deficit for going on a decade now, I’d say this plan is coming along nicely. (Fertile ground for conspiracists… Need a parachute?)

    • Mountain Saint

      malforce, supply side economics actually work and were revenue enhancers. It’s the Free Trade policies that resulted in us exporting tens of thousands factories and tens of millions Middle Class jobs.

      • matforce

        I disagree, Supply side economics hasn’t worked, and to see why you have to look at the overall political/economic environment, that complex array of laws, regulations, tax rates, and court rulings that determined what the rich can and cannot do – and get away with. Is the gap between CEO pay and that of the USA worker, which has soared tenfold since 1980, the result of the CEO being smarter or more hard working that those of over 30 years ago? I don’t think so. So what’s going on?
        Back in the 50s and 60s the concentration of individual and corporate wealth and power was discouraged. Stiff tax rates on high incomes put a damper on exorbitant CEO pay. For example, after the Korean War, the federal appeals court ruled that lavishly paid executives at one of the Industrial Belt machine tool & die corporation could not claim the full amount of their massive paychecks as a legitimate business expense on their corporate tax returns because the fabulous pay they received had to do with the sudden demand for retooling the Korean War created, not to any “business sagacity” on the execs part.
        Anti-monopoly laws were enacted to enhance competition within the corporations and banks of the USA, which had the effect of boosting competition for a higher wage scale within the realm of salesmen, effective managerial staff, engineers, etc., while labor unions saw the compensation (for their vital role in the production of the product) increase. Today, here’s a small example that defies these confines; it is found in Apple, one of the world’s most highly valued corporations. They recently used patent and copyright laws to restrict Samsung from copying its intellectual property. On the surface, I would agree, until you look into what they considered infringement, which included everything under the sun, including the round edges, and rectangular shape. These types of restrictive policies would have us copyrighting the wheel, preventing rivals of using it, and charging more than they normally would, dollars that would find their way into executive pockets for their use of restrictive monopolies. (China, simply steals these patents, produces, and markets them at half price before we can get it to production, but that’s another story).
        Plus, pre-1980s, marginal tax rates on the wealthy were up around 70%. To get a break, the wealthy would invest in the USA (USA corporations, stocks, create a workforce, or payroll, USA Research & Development, Entrepreneurship, NASA, Natl. Parks, their communities, Education Funds, Universities, philanthropy). Their wealth was INVESTED back into the USA. When their tax rate was reduced to 28% in 1980, it worked ok for a few years, but when the FTA’s gave corporations the green light to export jobs, the best investment game on Wall Street became the returns they received on the profit margin that was realized between sweat shop labor made foreign goods and those made in the USA, and INVESTMENTS began to be directed to offshoring corporations, rewarding them for their business model of offshoring and cutting expenses. You say, “That’s capitalism and the free market at work.” I say, unless you expect the USA middle class to relinquish the lifestyle that previous generations have fought and died for, the envy of the world, the most dynamic tax revenue resource of the modern world, you are engaging in a type of economic treason against the USA. And our legislatures allowes it to happen, thanks to the teams of lobbyists whose BIG $$$ promotes the agenda of the top to the detriment of the middle class, the working poor, and ultimately the United States of America.

    • DaveH

      matforce says — “Plutocratic “multinational” corporations are sitting on record profits (over $1 TRILLION) by employing sweat shops all over the world”.
      Sweat shops? Are those workers Forced to work, or happy to have any kind of job in their poor countries? Who are you to decide what kind of work other people should accept, matforce? It sounds to me like you’d rather they didn’t work, so you can keep your overpaid job. So, in other words you could care less if they suffer as long as you benefit.

      matforce says — “The beauty of this sweet deal is: they import their cheap junk here, tariff-free to fleece the unemployed/underemployed USA worker for all )they’re worth”.
      If you don’t like the cheaper products, matforce, then don’t buy them. But don’t tell the poor people here that they must buy your expensive “junk” so you can be better off at their expense.

      matforce says — “not to mention the downward pressure on wages here that is killing the goose that laid the golden egg”.
      Big Government is killing that goose with burdensome regulations, high taxes, and exorbitant spending. And my guess, matforce, is that you will vote for more because you think you benefit — damn the rest of us.

      matforce says — “Sweet deal, especially when our federal tax code is rife with loopholes”.
      There is a solution to that problem, matforce. Every adult pays the same. The only truly “fair” tax system.

      matforce says — “How does Germany maintain their high wage scale (mostly unionized) and still protect their industrial base from being undersold by the sweat-shop labor forces in SE Asia? They impose a 19% tariff, and the WTO doesn’t bat an eye; we do that and it would be an international incident”.
      Tariffs only hurt the citizens of the country whose Leaders impose them by making their people pay more their domestic products so a minority of manufacturers can benefit at the expense of the rest of their fellow citizens.
      And according to this paper, the number of Union Employees has declined during the last two decades to 20% of the workforce (see especially table 1):
      Only in the mind of a Liberal Progressive does 20% equate with “mostly unionized”.

      • matforce

        What are you Dave, one of the Plutocrats whose value to nation is on the bottom of a long list of profiteering, who’d sell out his nation of origin for filthy lucre? And when does it become enough? Also, if your are so concerned about the condition of the Chinese sweat shop workers, living in 7 story dormatories across from your offshored factory, where they awake at the crack of dawn, shower shave, and [expletive deleted] in a bathroom just down the hall befor the trudge across the street to the factory, where they’ll sit, slumped over a buffing wheel with their eye loop smoothing burrs off of #2 screws 12-16 hrs/day, which they’ll ship across town to the IPad factory, (deep breath), why don’t you go over there and organize and stand up to the Red China Communist Government, and risk your life for their sake, like our forefathers in the labor movement did to the Robber Barons, and Coal Mine Barons who held monopolies and crushed uprisings, and had our 7 year olds sitting next to the conveyors picking out coal according to size, preping them for a life in the mines where not only their lungs would turn black, but their skin would take on the smudge of years deep in the mines that forged the greatest middle class on Earth? Help them to raise their standard of living so they can enjoy some of the things we do? Or do you like it that they well up with tears of gratitude for your offshored sweat shops because they know the alternative is even worse. Got ‘em in a real bind there, don’t you Dave. Disgusting! And you know as well as I that they are being used by your kind to bring down the mighty USA middle class and the nation along with it

      • matforce

        Like Germany, whose Industrial sector is highly unionized, we have, or should I say had a highly paid work force that could afford the extra cost of Made In USA. I ALWAYS try to find Made in USA and I’ll pay twice the cost to purchase it, and believe me, I’m not rich. I grew up in the lower middle class, and worked all my life to gain my slice of the American Dream. It greives me to think that the Dream is over…

      • Buster the Anatolian

        “…or should I say had a highly paid work force that could afford the extra cost of Made In USA.”

        matforce the problem is most of those highly paid workers did NOT make any attempt to buy USA they bought the lowest price, which was generaly made overseas, so they could have ever more stuff.

      • DaveH

        I’ve already proven your lack of credibility, matforce, so you’d best post some references to back up your fabricated facts.

  • rick

    We have skipped a step in raising our children. Before they learn a specialty, they must learn how to work.

  • The Christian American

    Like the bible says: The love of money is the root of all evil. People want but are they willing to build a political infrastructure that can give them an oportunity to get a job? We cry to government for a job but all that government can do is limit our ability to get a job. Government is a necessary liabilty to people. It costs. If people want jobs the must cry out REPEAL, REPEAL ,REPEAL all the legislation that is loosing jobs. Government isn’t a replacement for a father. God’s our father, not government. Picture this. A guy comes knocking at your door. He’s selling a deal where you can invest $100.00′s and get back between $30.00 and $40.00. Would you buy it? Well when you go to government that’s the deal their selling you.Want a job? Go to some tax paying business for the job. Realize, if he and you paid less in taxes he would be able to hire more people. The way you pay less taxes is assume more responsibility of things you can do yourself. The less government, the more jobs. People that work for the government are liablities to your paycheck, some necessary, the lions share not. The government that governs best, governs least.

    • KG

      Romans 13

      King James Version (KJV)

      13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

      2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

      3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

      4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        God gives you a choice to be wise and live and choose your leaders wisely and be blessed. The flipside is being stupid and choosing leaders who are stupid and evil.
        By the way, dragging God into your comments does not make us ooh and aah and let our guard down.

      • Jay

        How do you explain Daniel, KG? Or Shadrach, Meshach, And Abednego? Dumbbell…!

  • Mountain Saint

    Let’s face reality here. There are few Middle Class jobs out there and neither presidential candidate will create real jobs…. We have 88,000,000 adults without jobs, most having given up looking for work. Why are we in this mess? The illegal aliens have stolen nearly 100% of all new low-end jobs (1% in agriculture) and the Hlb visa holders most of the high-end jobs requiring college degrees. Tens of millions factory jobs have been exported….With both Obama and Romney being cultists and Marxists, their big and ungodly government solutions will not solve our problems. ..The real solutions: (1.) imposing stiff tariffs on imports, bringing back home the factories and tens of millions Middle Class jobs. (2.) deporting all illegal aliens and their families, giving their stolen jobs to our unemployed. And (3.) terminate the visa programs, giving their ill-gotten jobs to our college graduates.

    • Mountain Saint

      There is another solution to our problems. Instead of sending our “dumbest generation” to colleges, why not trade schools? Put them to work in our returning factories and replace the illegal aliens in the trades. The smarter and more educated ones can replace the visa holders.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        Thanks for saying the obvious.

      • uvuvuv

        if you can do programable industrial relays you have a job.

      • LC

        The most OBVIOUS statements here is that our government for the better part of fifty years could care less about protecting American jobs,interests,liberties,lives,justice,Constitution,Bill of Rights,etc., etc., etc…YES! we know the problems, YES! we know what has been tried and failed, YES! we may even know some solutions. The QUESTION remains how do we change any of this? There is and has been, for what seems forever, a partisan plan to DESTROY FORWARD!,no matter what WE think. How do we reverse DIVIDE AND CONQUER? What agency or court will UP HOLD the Constituition and PROSECUTE all those who are seemingly vowed to dismantle it? If there is such, WHY are they not PROTECTING US as is written in their oaths. As I’m typing this for example, F’ing Bloomberg is promoting immigration as the turn around for New York’s economy. What is this BS?, and instead of debating BLAME, which is reactive, WE have to agree upon some PROACTIVE, if we have any chance at all to effectuate the change we all want. Why are there not charges being sought against BUSHS’ and CLINTONS’? Why does congress keep allowing executive orders to go unchallenged? Why is the supreme court not addressing laws over immigration? Laws over civil liberties? Where is the UNITY of the American people (no matter of YOUR PARTY favorites) protesting against the treachery we are witnessing?

      • KG

        It’s funny how all of the complains I hear here can be traced to Regan’s Administration. It was Regan who eliminated “tariffs” in the name of “the free market.” And it was under Regan when the REAL race for companies to leave America happened – mostly due to stupid tax benefits for companies willing to relocate.

        Remember when He wanted America to be a “financial services” country. So everyone here could wear a 3 piece suit to work. All the “dirty” industrial manufacturing jobs would go overseas.

        And many here worship that old dirty bastard like he was God or something. Just admit you were wrong, Vote democrat, join a local Union, and enjoy the freedom we have.

        Solidarity Forever
        p.s. Mises is a Nazi Idiot.

      • Dennis48e

        KG makes many claims but offers absolutely NO proof of them we are just supposed to take his word for it.

      • Jay

        Poor KG. He clearly lost the debate to DaveH and Vigilant, and will now pout and throw temper tantrums for the of thread. Me thinks someone needs his mommy.

    • momo

      I agree, neither candidate will create real jobs, but where did you get 88,000,000 people looking for work? As for imposing stiff tariffs on foreign products, that will just start a trade war and drive the price of goods and services up.

      • Mountain Saint

        momo, I didn’t write that 88,000,000 adults were looking for work. Most have given up and are no longer looking for work because of the bad economy caused by both Republicans and Democrats. ..Who cares about a trade war? At least with tariffs we will be doing our own manufacturing and employing our people at middle class jobs. Tariffs are the traditional way of raising revenue and keeping the jobs and factories in America….KG is right. Reagan started the trends that devastated America by the 21st Century.

  • Glen

    Often times, the future is nothing like we imagined it would be. I graduated college, recession was on so I ENLISTED in the Army, served honorably and retired. Flipped burgers and did various other jobs growing up and while in college. After the Army, I moved into a new career, based on additional education I completed while in the Army. Bottom line is that my employment history looks very little like I imagined it would growing up or while in school. The unemployed may need to consider alternate opportunities to include flipping burgers while looking for that break. I do know that many of them refuse to do so.

  • Dad

    “We … have more to do…” Duh… like abandoning communism and going back to capitalism. You would have to be clueless to keep trying systems that have failed all over the world. Gosh, they must really hate America.

    • Michael J.

      Has Communism really failed? If you are privy to the real goals of Communism and world domination by a small band of elitist misfit perverts, you might think they are about to achieve their wildest dreams.

      • JC

        Ironically with communism, the people at the top are capitalists, working with slave labor.

  • Benjamin Fox

    We need to put obozo in the unemployment line, the sooner the better.

  • Strighttothepoint!!!!!

    Good Comment Warrior,a Great Post that comes strigh to the point!!!!!!!

  • uvuvuv

    i worked for 36 years at the same place through various recessions and was never laid off. the recessions were over as soon as new cars started showing up in the parking lot. back then these car sales were guaranteed, maybe some of you remember the rust after 2 years and the dashboards splitting open and the yellow foam coming out. also those broagham vinyl tops split open too. recessions were always inventory based, as soon as companies started hiring back they were over. this time it’s different, what we have is, because of interest, more money owed than there is money. in fact if the martians landed with 100,000 tons of gold to help us out, because of the sheer volume the gold would drop in value with each skid as forklifted off the space ship. this is a real pickle this time around. the only solution is too heavily tax all business owners and employers, and the rich. profits are theft, after all. power to the people and for the people.

    • rocketride

      I’m not guessing you ever earned a raise or promotion in 36 years. You should still be able to retire soon and never have to leave the group home.

    • MarathonMan

      “Profits are theft” ….. do you work for free?
      That comment has just earned you todays ” Village Idiot Award”

  • roger gunderson

    Why would anybody ever expect the president or congress to fix the economy or unemployment. That is up to the general public.

    • nnicko

      Rules, laws and regulation……ever try to start your own business? If you were or are successful, then its illegal.

    • MarathonMan

      Congress never ever fixes anything they just get in the way.
      Congress can let prosperity flow by getting out of the way.

      As the words of Thomas Jefferson proclaim:
      “The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.”

  • Harold Olsen

    Barack Hussein Obama does not want to put people back to work. He is doing his damnedest to close down businesses and industries (coal mining, for example) so it becomes difficult to put people back to work. Last week, his regime announced they want to confiscate corporate profits because they claim that these big business did not earn them and do not deserve them. This is another step in preventing companies from hiring people and putting them back to work. He wants everyone tod be dependent on the government. But that idiot is so stupid that he doesn’t realize that when everyone loses their jobs there will be no one to pay taxes in order to pay for the welfare he wants to put everyone on. All he is thinking about is how much easier it will be to control the populace if they have to depend on goverment help in order to live. Don’t toe the line and you don’t eat and your children starve. He wants us to all worship him as though he is some sort of god.

    • nnicko

      Harold, you used the wrong word……it’s MESSIAH not god…..obozo is saving god for his unsuccessful 2nd term !

      • MarathonMan

        Was not God drummed out of the democrat party and then allowed back temporarily just to get votes?

  • MontieR

    It does NOT matter who is elected. Unless who ever gets into office shrinks government and STOPS the OVER regulation there will be NO growth. Government overreach and taxation ARE the cause of the bad economy. Get the government OFF our collective backs and watch how fast the economy explodes into hundreds of thousands of PRIVATE sector jobs.

  • Liberterian

    When I was young and paying my way through college I worked whatever job I could find and began in coal mining. I have never been without a job. The problem is that this generation thinks they are owned something. I found work while looking for a career. Not all the best pay, hours nor working conditions. Belly up and quit whining, work is out there find it and work at it while looking for something better. Politicians don’t find you jobs they only use jobs as a political ploy to get votes. You think Obama or Romney really care? Romney never had to look for a job, college and life were paid for by daddy George. Obama wasn’t born rich but made his opportunities. Why should they owe anyone anything? As a conservative and a libertarian, the best part of success is how hard you struggled to get there.

  • Karolyn

    “The problem is that this generation thinks they are owned something.” And that’s because of their upbringing. I know so manner people who ruined their kids because they wanted them to have more than they did growing up. I’ve always thought “Wouldn’t you want them to turn out as good as you? Then why not raise them the same way you were.” Duh!

    • Karolyn

      “many” not “manner.”

  • Karolyn

    I’ve always been proud of the fact that I’ve created income by doing many different things. When I left one job in 1988, I put up flyers with a list of jobs I would do from cleaning and cooking to gardening and errands. I ended up doing quite well in the housecleaning busness. Unfortunately, in this day and age it is not as easy as it used to be. Too many people. When I started selling on ebay in ’99, the cash was flowing in, not anymore. Back in the early 90s I could make money selling at craft shows – not anymore. I’ve done many different kinds of jobs and am qualified to fill many different positions, but it ain’t happenin’. Too many people. However, I am not saying there still are no ways to make money. For the resourceful, therte is always a way. Unfortunately, we are not all resourceful. We are all individuals, and not everybody is as capable.

    • Jay

      When you say “Too manny people”, Karolyn, do you mean by that, “Competition”?

  • black as coal

    i am worse off now that this dickhead is in office than when the latter was in.

  • MarathonMan

    Obama’s piss poor record on the economy has caused hardships for many American families. Jobs are hard to come by and folks are doing anything they can to earn bucks.
    I know a person with 3 degrees now working at Mickey Dees. Another degreed individual drives a school bus. And, Moody’s is now talking about another US downgrade in the US credit rating. So, much for Obamas domestic policy.

    How about his Obamas “masterful” foreign policy?
    Earlier this evening, at a fundraiser (where else?), BOB called the Muslim Brotherhood’s take over of Egypt a “young democracy”. Yesterday, a American diplomat and 3 others were murdered, our embassy ransacked and burned, and the American flag desecrated and for 9 hours today the only thing the White House could do was condemn a wacko film maker for a film insulting Muslims. Where is Obamas loyalty? Apparently not to America.
    Romney was the first to call out the travesty and was criticized for it. Go figure!

    Obama’s “Arab Spring” and the current uprisings are the result of an inept , “empty suit” president which has generated for us a carbon copy of the Jimmy Carter era. And now the fuse to the middle east powder keg is lit. Here comes $7 to 10.00/gal gas prices

    Obama and the democrats have taken America backward and we are now far worse off today than we were 4 years ago. How anyone with half a brain cell support or even consider voting for Obama and the democrat party is beyond me.

  • Strighttothepoint!!!!!

    We’ll just have to wait and M.Man.I know there are a lot of half brain people out there!!!

  • Strighttothepoint!!!!!

    “wait,and see!!!”-sorry!

  • Ted Gager

    Some say that BHO has failed….Nonsense! He has succeeded monumentally! His best interest was never to improve anything for anyone in the USA. No one could “fail” (succeed) the way this guy has and convince me otherwise. He thinks he can fool us again and finish the job. If he gets re-elected he will succeed once again. We will lose once again. The Obots will rejoice while reveling in their own demise….Idiots!
    Prediction: First order of business for BHO’s second term in office. Executive order number BS-xxx. Named, Presidential Term Limits Extended….

  • Karl Gregoire

    My wise father has said, “We get the government we deserve.”


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