George Zimmerman: Hero?

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George Zimmerman ( who did not testify during the trial) arrives in the courtroom to wait for his attorney Mark O'Mara to present the defense closing arguments to the jury on day twenty-four of George Zimmerman's trial in Seminole circuit court Sanford, Florida, July 12, 2013. The prosecution presented their closing arguments yesterday to the jury and will have a one hour rebuttal at the end of the defense closing arguments. Zimmerman is accused of second degree murder in the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin. Judge Debra Nelson ruled that jurors will allowed to consider a lesser charge of manslaughter in the case. UPI/Joe Burbank/Pool

George Zimmerman demonstrated why he was watching out for his community as a neighborhood watch volunteer on the night that Trayvon Martin was shot. He cares about his community.

Last Friday, he demonstrated it again. He was one of two men who pulled a family from a crashed and overturned vehicle in Sanford, Fla., less than a mile from where he shot Martin.

The corrupt persecutor who prosecuted the case against Zimmerman, Angela Corey, tried to portray him as a wannabe cop. But the reality is that Zimmerman is obviously an observant and conscientious American citizen who cares about others.

So despite thousands of death threats directed at him and his family, Zimmerman stepped out of his vehicle and helped pull to safety a family that he didn’t even know. It was something he didn’t have to do.

When someone puts his life in danger and helps others without regard to his own safety, he becomes a hero in my book.

The race-mongering punditry is already out saying it never happened, even though Sanford Police Department Capt. Jim McAuliffe told ABC News that it did.

Bob Livingston

founder of Personal Liberty Digest™, is an ultra-conservative American author and editor of The Bob Livingston Letter™, in circulation since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Harold Olsen

    Yesterday, I think it was on CNN, a group of blacks denied that Zimmerman took part in rescuing some crash victims. I said the other day that something like this would happen and they’d claim that he was just trying to improve his image, which is, more or less, what they claimed. I’m still waiting for someone to claim that he caused the accident so he could play hero.

    • fedupwidit

      Seems like Travon Martin should be the one with the “image” problem…when is this corporate ho media going to start reporting the truth about him?

    • Alex

      Wouldn’t put it past Zimmy, Harold—after all, he did orchestrate the pursuit and murder of Trayvon Martin.

      • WTS/JAY

        Alex, it is no secret that the night before Trayvon was shot he was overheard by many making death-threats and uttering racial-slurs against Hispanics. Trayvon’s own words: “I just hate those greasy, and slimy wet-backs, and tomorrow night, i thinks i’ll go and kills me one of them there hispanics”! I guess it back-fired on him, hey?

  • gswifty

    Sorry Bob, got to disagree here. GZ got away with manslaughter. No hero.

    • Vigilant

      You are free to disagree with the facts and the verdict of a jury.

      You are free to look like an idiot; that’s your Creator-endowed right.

      • gswifty

        You must be very popular here. How do you know what i look like when all you have to go on is the words i write? Anyway, and for the record, i’ve lost count of how many times i’ve rated Bob’s articles 5 star and posted them as threads on other forums. Truth is that this topic is a loser for conservative-minded people by elevating GZ to the status of a hero. Poor place to hang one’s hat,imo. And here’s a definition for you Vigilant:

        man·slaugh·ter

        /ˈmanˌslôtər/

        Noun The crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or otherwise in circumstances not amounting to murder.

        Isn’t that what Zimmerman did? Stand your ground will be revisited in the near future as a legitimate defense,..mark my words. Maybe next time you won’t be such a cheerleader for a losing cause. You should pull down your skirt a bit, your agenda’s showing.

        • gswifty

          Yes, very popular. Too bad this isn’t junior high school. lol

        • Vigilant

          “How do you know what i [sic] look like when all you have to go on is the words i [sic] write?”

          That statement just proved my point. “Looking like” means “appearing to be,” and from your failure to grasp that which everyone else understands, that indeed makes you look like an idiot.

          And here’s a definition for you, gswifty:

          “An idiot, dolt, or dullard is a mentally deficient person, or someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way. Archaically the word mome has also been used. The similar terms moron, imbecile, and cretin have all gained specialized meanings in modern times. An idiot is said to be idiotic, and to suffer from idiocy. A dunce is an idiot who is specifically incapable of learning. An idiot differs from a fool (who is unwise) and an ignoramus (who is uneducated/an ignorant),” neither of which refers to someone with low intelligence.” (Wikipedia)

          And, no, I don’t think I’ll mark your words.

          • gswifty

            Lame.

          • Vigilant

            Idiotic.

    • vicki

      What GZ got away with was self defense.

  • Dead I Dick

    100 percent HERO, We need more like Him to try to slow down the trouble causing people

  • Alex

    That George Zimmerman stepped up to help people in need is indeed heroic—but he is not hero. Read the 911 transcript—Zimmerman admitted that Trayvon Martin was running AWAY prior to being murdered.

    George Zimmerman remains a cowardly killer who was able to skirt the law. The quickness of the verdict should not be viewed as a slam dunk—three jurors initially voted to convict him. Unfortunately, the three jurors who wanted the murderer to walk were stronger and more persistent with their pressure. Too bad that not even one juror had the guts to be a hero and stand firm and force a mistrial.

    Sad to see Bob Livingston come out of his race-baiting closet over the past couple of years—-too many ties to organizations that snivel over the defeat they were handed in the War of Southern Belligerence….

    • Lui

      Wrong, Martin wasn’t running away he was getting out of sight. He was the coward who hid then jumped zimmerman from the shadows so he could ground and pound the cracka. The real racist was martin, and martin brought his death upon himself. No one is expected to sit and take a beating, period. People like you don’t let the facts get in the way of your opinons.

    • WTS/JAY

      If Obama had a son, he would look like Trayvon. If Obama had a city, it would look like Detroit. If Obama had a country, it would look like Cuba…(-:

      • Bill

        Good analogy, Jay

      • guest233

        If Obama had a country, it would look like NORTH KOREA.

    • WTS/JAY

      Alex: three jurors initially voted to convict him. Unfortunately, the three jurors who wanted the murderer to walk were stronger and more persistent with their pressure. Too bad that not even one juror had the guts to be a hero and stand firm and force a mistrial.
      “That’s why it took us so long,” said B37, who said she planned to write a book about the trial but later had a change of heart. When they started looking at the law, the person who initially wanted second-degree murder changed her vote to manslaughter, the juror said. Then they asked for clarification from the judge and went over it again and again. B37 said some jurors wanted to find Zimmerman guilty of something, but there was just no place to go based on the law,

      The woman, known as Juror B37, told CNN’s Anderson Cooper that when the jury began deliberations Friday, they took an initial vote. Three jurors— including B37 — were in favor of acquittal, two supported manslaughter and one backed second-degree murder. She said the jury started going through all the evidence, listening to tapes multiple times.

      B37 said jurors cried when they gave their final vote to the bailiff. “I want people to know that we put everything into everything to get this verdict,” said the juror, whose face was blacked out during the televised interview but who appeared to become choked up.

      The interview came two days after the jury acquitted Zimmerman, a former neighborhood watch activist, of second-degree murder in the shooting death of Martin in a gated community in Sanford, Fla. Martin was black, and Zimmerman identifies himself as Hispanic. Zimmerman was not arrested for 44 days, and the delay in charging him led to protests from those who believed race was a factor in the handling of the case.

      While prosecutors accused Zimmerman of profiling Martin, Zimmerman maintained he acted in self-defense. Juror B37, the only juror to speak publicly about the case so far, said Monday that the actions of Zimmerman and Martin both led to the teenager’s fatal shooting, but that Zimmerman didn’t actually break the law.

      While Zimmerman made some poor decisions leading up to the shooting, including leaving his car when police told him not to, Martin wasn’t innocent either, the juror said. “I think both were responsible for the situation they had gotten themselves into,” said the juror. “I think they both could have walked away.”

      http://www.mail.com/news/us/2215064-juror-wanted-to-convict-zimmerman-initially.html

      • dan

        the initial juror report (by the foreman)said 5-1 for GZ
        and against Skittles…funny how that became more PC
        with the passage of time.
        I agree…if Thug-master Trayvon hadn’t returned ,having reached his destination,to teach that cracker-assed -rapist
        a lesson(Genitel’s testimony) he might well be enjoying his Drank and continuing his life of youthful rebellion , drug dealing and
        petty crime ( burglary )

        • Ron r

          Ha,ha,ha , you so funny, you so reichous,

          • dan

            nah,just old and cranky…and i don’t want to play the knock-out game with ferral-youths in hoodies or have ghetto thugs hose down my grandchildren in a drive-by.

          • Bill

            Ronr, It is “You are so righteous”. I see that you are a graduate our dumbed down education system

    • Maryp32806

      Did you even watch the trial? Zimmerman was assaulted by Trayvon as he returned to his car after getting out to get the police a street address as to where he was. How does defending yourself against a thug make him a coward?

      • HappyG

        Mary, Alex has his own set of “facts”, and his distortion is his reality…Had TMs dad done the proper notification that he was having an overnight guest, his kid may very well be alive today. They call them ‘gated communities’ for a reason.

    • mort_f

      Trayvon Martin was RUNNING AWAY, and Zimmerman was chasing him? What an imagination. Sign up Zimmerman for the Olympics, he would be a lock for winning the 100 yard dash.

      • Ron r

        Well if that’s the case chalk up one more lie for Zimmerman because he also said the kid was running. Zimmerbolt is his name murder is his game.

        • WTS/JAY

          And what’s your game, Ron?

    • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Alex,

      You write: “Sad to see Bob Livingston come out of his race-baiting closet over the past couple of years.” You are the racist, evidenced by the fact that every day you call at least one author and/or one commenter a racist. Your ignorance is annoying.

      You write: “too many ties to organizations that snivel over the defeat they were handed in the War of Southern Belligerence.” Please name the organizations I have “ties to.”

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Ron r

        Oh Bob, we know that every one who disagrees with you is racist. Even , the Pope.

        • WTS/JAY

          Oh Ron, we know that every word that comes out of your mouth is a lie.

        • Bill

          For lack of intelligent argument, throw out the race card

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Ron r,

          You write: “every one who disagrees with you is racist. Even , the Pope.” While I have disagreements with the Pope, they don’t involve race.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • Alex

        Ludwig von Mises Institute, for one…

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Alex,

          I have no “ties” to the Ludwig von Mises Institute. I do regularly read their information and we run it here from time to time. So again I ask you, please name the organizations (plural) that you believe I have “ties” to, or admit you’re a liar.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

    • wandamurline

      I watched the entire trial and never heard Mr. Zimmerman say that Martin was running away. Show me the site for this information, and I will read it.

      • Bill

        Alex likes to make things up

      • Alex

        Learn to read wandamurine—it is in the 911 transcript.

    • billybob

      So you think trayvon was running away and Zimmerman caught up to him? I don’t think so. Trayvon told his girlfriend some Cracker was following him and he was going to kick his ass. And he would have to had it not been for the gun that Zimmerman had. If Zimmerman was a real coward he would’nt have been out there at night. Secondly cowards don’t chase down people they run the other way. If he were a coward he would had stayed in his car. No the Zimmerman’s of this world still try to do what is right. Only left wing media hide behind lies and deception to make money from them. They are the one who are cowardly. They don’t have the guts to print truth! They distort the truth or just plain lie. I’d would had like to have had a Zimmerman with me in Nam.

    • vicki

      Convenient that you leave out the part where Martin sneaks up on Zimmerman instead of running home.

      • Alex

        Say who? The man who LIED to a judge under oath?

        • WTS/JAY

          Say who? The prosecution that deliberately withheld evidence favorable to George Zimmerman?

    • Eagle525

      Alex never lets facts stand in the way of his “theory” (i.e. agenda).

  • WTS/JAY
  • WTS/JAY

    There be two things i hate, racism and white folk! -Al Sharpton

    • billybob

      LMAO

  • Ron r

    He was most likely following the car trolling for blacks.

    • WTS/JAY

      Speaking of trolling…we have 3 race-baiters on board; Dave, Ron r and Alex, who just happen to be progressives. No surprise here!

      • Dave

        Race baiters? Why is Bob and so many conservatives here so giddy over Zimmerman and the verdict? Bob put up this story as if it has anything to do with Zimmerman’s actions the day Martin was killed. I contend that if it was Martin that shot Zimmerman after being threatened by Zimmerman following him, Mr Livingston would not be hailing Martin for being a hero because he had a right to be left alone.

        • Bill

          In one sense you are right, liberal Dave, if Zimmerman was black and Martin was white, the press would have never said a thing and we would not know about this

        • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

          Dear Dave,

          You write: “I contend that if it was Martin that shot Zimmerman after being threatened by Zimmerman following him, Mr Livingston would not be hailing Martin for being a hero because he had a right to be left alone.” Your contention is a non sequitur. There has been no evidence that Zimmerman ever threatened Martin. But, in a sense you are correct, because if the roles had been reversed, we would never have heard about it. Sort of like this case, which I’ll bet you never heard about.

          http://lastresistance.com/2787/say-hello-to-roderick-scott-the-anti-george-zimmerman/

          Best wishes,
          Bob

          • Dave

            No Bob,

            He was just following Martin through his development and what was Martin doing again? Zimmerman called 911 because Martin was doing what? Fights happen Bob… A person doesn’t need to lose their life over it. Zimmerman had a couple of cuts from the fight, I have had worse. But you as a proponent of vigilante justice supports Zimmerman.
            How do you know we would never hear about it? So you can predict every story that the media picks up on? Where is your irrefutable evidence?

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Dave,

            You write: ” Zimmerman called 911 because Martin was doing what?” Apparently slinking through the neighborhood suspiciously, and likely headed home to make some “lean.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ebu6Yvzs4Ls

            You write: “But you as a proponent of vigilante justice supports Zimmerman.” Proof by bald assertion. A logical fallacy, but typical of your responses.

            You write: “How do you know we would never hear about it?” Did you hear about the related story I linked?

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Dave

            Define “slinking” for me since you have eyes there. So Martin was guilty of “slinking” as you… the almighty judge of slinking define it. For that reason, Zimmerman followed Martin and called 911. I see…

            Bald Assertion? You distrust all government and want everyone to be armed to “protect” themselves… If that doesn’t lay the groundwork for vigilante justice I don’t know what does.

            Bob, let me help you. You are not the judge and jury on what is right or wrong.You like to think you are because as a ultra conservative, you believe your stuff doesn’t stink.
            Your tune woudl be different if Martin was the one with the gun and he shot Zimmerman for not leaving him alone. Race does play a part of what the media picks up and does as are many other variables. Your link means so little.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Dave,

            You write: “Your tune woudl (sic) be different if Martin was the one with the gun and he shot Zimmerman for not leaving him alone” Proof by bald assertion.

            You write: “Your link means so little.” As does your comment.

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Eagle525

            BOB: Thank you for mention ing “LEAN” … to bad a majority of the nation is not fully aware of Travons penchant for Skittles, watermelon flavored drink, and cough medicine which when mixed together makes “LEAN”. Also there are few mentions about Travons real residence … he was “visiting” and temporarily living with a relative in Zimmermas neighborhood… Why? Because he was thrown out of school where he actually lived and that too is another story that needs telling.

          • guest233

            Also trayvons parents stated they couldn’t handle their son any longer. Trayvons mother kicked him out thus the reason trayvon was staying with his uncle and aunt.

          • David Wallace

            What the average , law abiding, person doesn’t know is that the best time for burglaries is when it’s raining. Not hard rain or storms but light to medium rain. The reason is it masks sounds and removes evidence. Fingerprints, DNA and footprints wash away and footsteps are covered by rain hitting the roof and other objects. Add to that a hoodie will obscure facial recognition. So then why was Trayvon wondering around the buildings in the rain? I would call that suspicious.

          • WTS/JAY

            What was Trayvon doing in Zimmerman’s neighbourhood/”gated-community”…a gated-community that had experienced 46 burglaries before Trayvon was shot?

          • Dave

            So walking through a gated community is a crime? Care to cite that law for me?

          • WTS/JAY

            You need to read my question more carefully, Einstein? I didn’t ask whether walking through a gated-community was/is a crime. I asked; What was Trayvon doing walking through a gated-community where he did not reside, and at night? Capish? A very simple question, Dave!

          • Dave

            Jay, he was walking through on his way back from the store. Can you not understand that what your own words were saying is that he was doing something wrong by walking through a gated community? You can’t take a short cut?
            I walk through gated communities all the time… I didn’t realize that was suspicious in your mind.
            Get it Einstein?

          • speedle24

            No Dave, “fights” don’t just happen, and “fights” can lead to death or permanent damage with or without with involvement of guns or other weapons. This was not a school yard scrap between a couple of 10 year old kids (as you seem to presume). This was a guy getting his head banged off the concrete repeatedly. Perhaps you have “had worse”, and the resulting damage may account for your inability to accept logic.

        • Charlie

          Is The Almighty God a “”Racist””??? Read Genesis chapter 3 thru about 9 ,,, then tell us what kind of statement King Jesus Christ made at Matthew 15:24… After study of many “Scriptures” We find that God is discriminatory and racist… Racism is thousands of years old ,,,, so ,,, who are the white Supremacist today???

          • Dave

            I’ll read Stieg Larsson if I want good fiction.

          • Charlie

            Yes, it appears you like fiction,,, is that why you write so much???

          • Dave

            No, but I do respond to fiction… like now.

      • billybob

        I think Ron was being sarcastic!

        • WTS/JAY

          I think Ron was being himself!

    • WTS/JAY

      Provide that evidence and I will listen. Otherwise you are just making stuff up again.

    • ChuckS123

      Zimmerman obviously wasn’t ready to use his gun, since he let Trayvon jump him. If he had his gun in his hand, or had his hand near his gun, he would have stopped Trayvon, or scared him away. Obviously he wasn’t gunning for Trayvon, or even ready to shoot him when attacked.

  • Dave

    I wonder if Martin had the gun and shot Zimmerman after being threatened by his following him would Bob have such “heroic” feelings towards Martin?

    • WTS/JAY

      I wonder, the night that Trayvon was shot, was Trayvon trolling for Hispanics to murder?

      • Dave

        Provide that evidence and I will listen. Otherwise you are just making stuff up again.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          No, WTS/JAY is pointing out how foolish you sound.

          • Dave

            Asking that question is foolish? Oh I forget, questioning in conservativeland is not allowed. The great and power OZ(Bob Livingston) knows all.

          • http://personalliberty.com/ Bob Livingston

            Dear Dave,

            You write: “The great and power OZ(Bob Livingston) knows all.” I do believe you’ve come unhinged. Or is this your normal response when you realize your argument holds less water than a rusted-out bucket?

            Best wishes,
            Bob

          • Dave

            So when you call Obama names or anyone else you disagree with… What do you call that?
            Is this normal response to the same stuff you engage in and your minions who buy everything you try and sell?

          • Nadzieja Batki

            If you don’t like Bob Livingston, why are you on this site? So either you are a masochist, paid shill, or too stupid to realize this site is not your cup of tea.
            You also do not have the authority to question Bob Livingston?

          • Dave

            LOL! What “authority” does Bob have? Oh yes, he is the ultra-conservative reseller of the red meat that gets people like you all in a tizzy.
            Forgive me for questioning Bob or any conservative here. I should be like you and go to a liberal site where we can all sit around and agree all the time. That is stimulating…. for you perhaps.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      It didn’t happen the way you want it to be.

    • Frank Kahn

      And, Dave, I wonder why people consider it a threat to just be followed? Is it the anti-white racist idea that we are all out to hurt blacks? How about those stupid fights, where some poor white person gets his butt kicked just because a black man didnt like the way he looked at him? Is a perceived matter of disrespect justification for assault also?

      To answer your question, NO, Martin had no reasonable reason to consider his life to be in jeopardy, so shooting Zimmerman just because he was following him would have been the same type of crime as the one he committed, only worse because he used a deadly weapon in the assault.

      Saying that I was afraid that that creepy ass cracka was a pedophile does not raise to the same level of threat as being physically assaulted, held down and beaten.

      How would the legal system treat me, if I assaulted a black man just because he was following me?

      • Dave

        Frank,

        You have plenty of resources to ask that question since many on this site believe the Gov is out to get them by following them to a degree.

        “How would the legal system treat me, if I assaulted a black man just because he was following me?”

        Simple assault…. But Martin is not able to be tried for that crime he did commit because Zimmerman killed him. It was an overracton to a passionate situation. Have you been in a fight before? Do you think clearly in that situation if you have? Unless you are trained (Zimmerman was not), highly unlikely.

        Zimmerman is no hero. Zimmerman is no villian either. He facied himself a cop and had prejudices towards blacks from any number of reasons from family teachings to the crime in the area committed by blacks. He followed Martin because he was black in his neighborhood. The police were called because (to use Bob Livingston definition) “Slinking” in his neighborhood. Is walking in a neighborhood a crime now? They exchanged words and they fought, Martin got the best of him and then when Zimmerman was able, he pulled his gun and shot and killed Martin.
        Zimmerman should be punished for killing Martin. This ruling opens the gates to more people killing others because they felt threatened. Zimmerman caused this whole chain of events to happen because Martin was caught in his neighborhood while black.

        • jenelle

          How was it determined that Zimmerman had negative prejudices towards blacks?

          • Dave

            The 9/11 call… “they” always get away with it.
            One gets a strong impression of who Zimmerman meant by “they” in the call.

          • WTS/JAY

            Why do you hate Hispanics, Dave?

          • guest233

            Dave…zimmermans neighborhood was besieged with home invasions. The day before when trayvon attacked Zimmerman, a black guy had broken into a home and got away. They were always getting away! Also, a black kid walked up to zimmermans back porch and took off with his bike! After so many robberies by BLACK PERPS, it is only common sense to regard someone who was peering into homes on a rainy dark night, to cause one to investigate.

          • Dave

            I get it… you have crimes committed by a certain type of person, you start looking that those people differently. Zimmerman was wrong to assume that martin was out to do robbery. “peering into homes”? Did you read something that I did not? Martin was just walking through…

          • guest233

            It was in the police report.

          • Dave

            Nope, just reviewed the report. Nothing of the sort was in there.

          • guest233

            Dave..trayvon was acting suspiciously . There was a burglary tool found in the bushes near his body. He also at one time was found with stolen jewelry and a burglary tool. Are you aware that his mom kicked him out of the home because she couldn’t handle him? He was up to no good in that neighborhood.

          • jenelle

            Could not “they” refer to criminals in general, and those who had gotten away with home robbery in the weeks prior to Zimmerman meeting Martin. How does the word, “they” convey a particular ethnic group?

        • Frank Kahn

          There is nothing in your post that resembles the truth, that is shown by evidence in the case.

          “You have plenty of resources to ask that question since many on this site believe the Gov is out to get them by following them to a degree.”

          Actually, you are twisting the meaning of the question. The situation you allude to is metaphorical in nature. The government is not physically following us, nor does it cause a fear for our lives. It is a fear of losing our rights. That principle is not an issue in the Martin case.

          “How would the legal system treat me, if I assaulted a black man just because he was following me?”

          Simple assault…. ”

          Actually, if it was proven that you assaulted him because he was a BLACK MAN following you, you would be charged with a felony hate crime, not just simple assault.

          “But Martin is not able to be tried for that crime he did commit because Zimmerman killed him. ”

          All the evidence presented in court indicated that Martin DID COMMIT THAT CRIME. It was the fact that he committed the crime, of aggravated assault, that led to the acquittal of Zimmerman.

          “It was an overracton to a passionate situation. ”

          YES, Martin overreacted to a situation, in which he was being followed by a neighborhood watchman.

          “Have you been in a fight before? ”

          Yes, I have been in fights before. I have even been brutally attacked, for no reason, just like Zimmerman was. My assailant was guilty of criminal assault. He had a large hunting knife, with which he cut me, during the fight. Had I been armed, I could have, and would have killed him in self defense.

          “Do you think clearly in that situation if you have?”

          Yes, I thought with crystal clarity, I understood that I was out gunned and needed to either defuse the situation or run like hell.

          “Unless you are trained (Zimmerman was not), highly unlikely.

          Actually, the human brain has a self preservation instinct that is not trained, it is hard wired. It gives the impulse of fight or flight. In both instances it is fueled with adrenalin to increase the power of the muscles. It is not slow, like normal rational thinking, it is lightning fast. If you have the ability to, and a reasonable expectation of escape, you flee. If you are not able to flee, you fight. Being pinned on the ground, while being beaten, eliminates option FLEE, so FIGHT is the only recourse.

          “Zimmerman is no hero. Zimmerman is no villian either.

          Probably correct, he is definitely not a villain, and his actions were more along the lines of normal human response, so he is not a hero.

          “He facied himself a cop ”

          Although, personally, I don’t like the idea of being a cop, that aspiration is not an indication that he was prone to unjustifiable violence.

          “and had prejudices towards blacks from any number of reasons from family teachings”

          So, his legacy of helping less fortunate black children, who’s father was in prison, is proof he is prejudiced against blacks? The fact that he reported crimes, being committed by young black men, indicates a prejudice against them? Are we to assume that he would have allowed crimes to go unreported, if they were committed by non-blacks?

          “to the crime in the area committed by blacks. ”

          To be suspicious of someone that fits the description of several others, who have committed crimes, is not racial profiling. It is not an indication of prejudice against the race.

          “He followed Martin because he was black in his neighborhood. ”

          Over simplification of the situation, and not representative of the whole truth. The manner of dress, the time of the incident as well as the appearance that he was just wandering around, were the reasons for the suspicion.

          “The police were called because (to use Bob Livingston definition) “Slinking” in his neighborhood. Is walking in a neighborhood a crime now? ”

          The term used by Zimmerman was wandering around, and yes, that is suspicious, not a crime, but suspicious.

          “They exchanged words ”

          The closest, that I can come to an exchange of words, is the testimony from his girl friend saying “He (Martin) said why are you following me?”. That does not rise to the level of an “EXCHANGE OF WORDS”.

          “and they fought, ”

          And Martin ATTACKED.

          “Martin got the best of him ”

          An un-provoked and surprise attack.

          “and then when Zimmerman was able, he pulled his gun and shot and killed Martin.”

          Zimmerman was, finally, able to access his gun to defend himself, and did so.

          “Zimmerman should be punished for killing Martin. ”

          Zimmerman was found “not guilty by reason of self defense”. You don’t punish innocent people.

          “This ruling opens the gates to more people killing others because they felt threatened. ”

          What part of getting the crap beat out of you is just a “feeling” you are being threatened? It was Martin that attacked, just because he FELT threatened.

          “Zimmerman caused this whole chain of events to happen because Martin was caught in his neighborhood while black.”

          Un-realistic assessment of the facts. The chain of events was started by Martin wandering around at night. Whether Zimmerman was correct in his assessment that it was suspicious is up for debate. The fact that Martin used extremely poor and criminal actions as a result of being followed is not. If Martin had continued into the house, where he was staying, he would still be alive.

          The only apparent racial aspect of this, is that Martin was acting in a racially anti-white mindset when he attacked Zimmerman.

  • jdibbs

    George is a HERO! ALWAYS WAS! God Bless You George ALWAYS!

  • Bill

    The Zimmerman case has nothing to do with racism, it has to do with our right to self defense. With the lefts failed economic policies, there are more thugs created and now more than ever do we need the right to self defense

    • red neck

      Bill…
      I agree with you however under the obama administration we all know that his philosophy is to NEVER let a crisis go to waste. And furthermore all of these protestors in my opinion are nothing less than anti-American punks that fully deserve the ridicule that they get because it is themselves that inject race into everything in order to push their agenda of the destruction of America through division.

      • Bill

        Good analogy, Red Neck
        Lock and Load

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Your first sentence say it all. In America guns cannot be just confiscated on whim because most Americans have ready access to information of history. But the laws can be manipulated to lawfully confiscate guns.

    • William Frawley

      I agree Stalin put it best 1 murder is a tragedy 10,000 is a statistic and before anyone comments it was not murder it was self defense but my point is everybody focuses on this one and blacks are killing each other in record numbers in Chicago but Jackson, Sharpton and the left could not care less they just USE this story to divide.

  • Dave

    Zimmerman was getting his head bashed in,how was this running away. Where is the media, Sharpton, Jackson when a gang of blacks beat a innocent white person to death. If they were about peace and not racism. Don’t you think they would be saying something to the blacks that beat that person. Of course not! They are all about racism! I’m sick of hearing everyone including Sharpton, Jackson and some of these people protesting. Crying about what a good guy/boy they were. Then come to find out they were gangbangers. Don’t bitch about racism if your one sided about it. That makes you a racist. So, who are you to judge? If your only protesting when a black gets killed. Then it speaks for itself. And, most of the protesting going on was making it a white on black thing at first. I knew he was Latino from the beginning. So, theres more of an example of racism. Right away its whitey. The moral Rev.Jesse Jackson gets drunk and beats his wife. And,this is one of your leaders. He was wasted on T.V. on a democratic convention. Fine ethical man….My grammar may suck. But,i didn’t ask you to grade my paper.

  • DAK27

    This was a set-up plain and simple. Out of all the people in Fla, good ol’ George just happened to be there? BS. This was staged same as any Hollywood movie. Just my opinion.

    • al

      That is the MOST dumbest comment yet. If you actually think someone would purposely wreck with their family on board risking life and limb is just pure STUPID!!!!

      • DAK27

        But they didn’t wreck. It was staged… you know, like in the movies.

        • Nadzieja Batki

          Who is doing the staging? Don’t keep it a secret, tell all.
          Zimmerman is of Dem/Prog/Leftist mindset, so why are Dems/Progs/Leftists willing to disown one of their own.

          • DAK27

            Who do you think would set this up? I think GZ set it up of course.

          • Nadzieja Batki

            So GZ did the “good deed” and then hurried up and called the media so they could rush over and cover it.

    • $24100174

      Stupidity shows….I suggest; keep yo opinion to yourself..

    • guest233

      Dear God, the only conclusion I can come up with in understanding how anyone can resist truth and believe outlandish lies is that half of America is under a ‘delusion’. God’s word warns us that if we allow certain sins in our life, He will send a delusion. You sir are under a delusion.

  • GAB

    WHY is the ONLY pictures being showed of Tryvon when HE WAS 12 YEARS OLD??? Someone needs to show him 17years old; tat’s & muscled etc!!!

    • Eagle525

      The Answer to ” WHY…” is: the American press is corrupt and is driven by a liberal secularist agenda. They do not report news … they CREATE news.

    • guest233

      GAB..my understanding is that CNN and NBC and MSNBC as well as all the other media outlets MUST first present to the WH and get the approval from them to report their news.We know Obama has an agenda to divide our country and will use any means to do so. What better way than to instigate a race war between blacks and whites.

  • ONTIME

    For the race baiters out there the Al sharpton’s, the Jessie Jackson’s, Calypso louie’s, Eric Holder’s and Barry Sotero’s, here’s the situation, you are the victim of a car mishap and your lives are in danger, the crowd gathers as you plead for help and the man of the moment is Gerorge Zimmerman a decent “white” hispanic who you have nothing but vitrol for. My question to you is are you going to let him help or are you going refuse?
    I hope you refuse his assistance……yo tiiime is up!

  • chrisnj

    Too many people still cling to the narrative that “Treyvon didn’t need to be shot and killed – the situation could have been handled differently.”

    Certainly. Martin who was apparently a guest in the home of a resident of the gated community, did not need to disrespect his hosts by jumping and assaulting one of their neighborhood watch volunteers.

    Perhaps Martin assumed that Zimmerman was an easy, unarmed target for his aggressions. He was wrong. Anyone thinking to jump and assault someone should be given pause by the possibility that his intended victim might be armed and able to defend themselves.

    THAT’s the deterrent effect that not prohibiting responsible adults from carrying firearms and supporting their inherent right to stand their ground and to defend themselves from attack, has.

    Martin was not an innocent bystander, pure as the wind-driven snow. He perpetrated the assault and was in the process of killing or doing great bodily harm to Zimmerman.

    The Monday-morning quarterbacks need to take a deep breath and soberly examine their own racism in assuming that Martin was an innocent victim of racism, their assumption being driven by Martins skin color and their own liberal-racist world view.

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  • securityman

    dak27, you really are an IDIOT aren’t you?????????

    • DAK27

      Because I do not agree with you, I am an idiot, huh? Fine. Call me all the names you want but that doesn’t change my opinion that Zimmerman set this up.

      • Nadzieja Batki

        How?

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  • Alex

    Zimmy lied to a judge under oath—decidedly NOT a hero.

    But then this country likes those kind of “heroes”—George Custer, William Calley, Roy Cohn, Paul “Tidbits” Tibbets…

  • TheSilverRanger

    George Zimmerman has been found not guilty of both murder and manslaughter in the death of Trayvon Martin. This is a travesty of justice. Immediately after the verdict, defense attorney Don West thanked the jury for “not turning this tragedy into a travesty.”

    He was half right.

    I cannot make an argument under which the death of a 17 year old is not a tragedy. Even wild and rare extremes of under age children killed while committing terrible atrocities are innately tragic in that it must be asked what led to such behavior at such an age in the first place. And clearly, in this case, Trayvon Martin engaged in no heinous atrocities. At the very worst, if Zimmerman is to be believed, Trayvon Martin sucker punched him; that falls somewhere between understandable (because he was afraid) and, at the very worst, boorish (because he was either immature or a punk or both). Thus, I argue that Trayvon Martin’s death is an absolute tragedy.

    However, the very fact that this became a case, a trial, and a national story is a travesty of monumental proportions.

    Actually, it’s a multitude of travesties:

    · As was clearly demonstrated in the trial (which I saw every single minute of thanks to being laid up recovering from surgery), there was no single shred of evidence to come even close to proving anywhere near beyond a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman did anything other than act in self-defense. He was charged, not by a grand jury as is proper and customary in our justice system, but by a politically charged state attorney who is a liar and, in my opinion, a criminal.

    · There is absolutely nothing to support the hypothesis that Zimmerman is a racist. From growing up with an African American child in his family home for years to taking an African American girl to the prom to mentoring multiple African American kids as recently as 2011, any circumstantial evidence of ill will or malice in his heart was fundamentally false and made-up by people who view everything through the prism of racism. When Zimmerman utters on his call to the non-emergency dispatch “these punks always get away,” only a racist can deduce that he is speaking of black people. Those with common sense who review the facts know that he is talking about criminals, particularly in the housing development in which he lived.

    · The media is no longer an institution of any credibility in America. From ginning up phony charges and a beautifully planned PR campaign to its coverage of the trial, the media, as a whole remains an embarrassment. From CNN and MSNBC openly rooting for a conviction to Fox News barely covering the event at all (and then getting tons of facts wrong after the verdict because they had paid such little attention to it) it was an all out joke.

    · We, the people, are no longer an institution of any credibility in America, either, because the plurality of people chose sides a year ago based entirely on rumor, innuendo and what they heard, and then refused to move from their position. Now that the facts and evidence have been seen and shown, people should be ashamed; sadly, they aren’t.

    · Morons continue, to this day, walking around debating “stand your ground,” laws when it had nothing to do with this case, at all, whatsoever. The prosecution never argued it and the defense never used it. This was a pure and simple case of self-defense and had nothing to do with Standing Your Ground.

    · Hoodies regained popularity.

    · The lunatic fringe that supported George Zimmerman has been emboldened by the publicity of this trial and its outcome and more and more people will feel justified in arming themselves and walking into confrontational situations they would otherwise avoid without an equalizing gun strapped to their side. As a staunch gun rights advocate, I am certain that the last thing we need are more people unprepared for the responsibility of carrying a firearm.

    And so, there you have it; all of the ammunition you have to now call me a bigot and a racist since I actually watched the trial, saw the evidence and came to the same conclusion as the jury.

    Only in America in 2013 could an Hispanic man shooting an African American being acquitted by a jury of six women somehow be called “bigoted.”

  • WTS/JAY

    Trayvon Martin Shooting – Zimmerman’s COMPLETE 911 Call, With Audio And Transcript

  • WTS/JAY

    The prejudice against Hispanics as demonstrated by the liberal-left in the Zimmerman/Martin episode, is deplorable. I feel sorry for all Hispanics throughout America and abroad. Even the President obviously has disdain for Hispanics because George Zimmerman does not look like he could be his son?

    Maybe that’s why the left has coined the new phrase “White Hispanics”. This makes it OK for the libs to hate anything with “white” in front of it. Just a sad day in America. Maybe the liberals here can explain their hatred for Hispanics…?

    “The welfare state has always been judged by its good intentions, rather than its bad results” – Thomas Sowell

  • WTS/JAY

    If you want to know what liberals REALLY think of blacks, Hispanics, women and gays, pay attention to how much raw-hate they spew at Conservatives in those categories.

  • Guest

    The sad thing is, the rescued family does not want to be identified, lest the Zimmerman-hating crowd decide to maim and murder them simply because they crossed paths with him.

  • IBCAMN

    typical progressive liberal azz holes trying to manipulate the media and history!!
    they don’t want to show they were wrong about this Hispanic man!!
    remember,they said he was white for along time,then when everybody heard he wasn’t,they called him WHITE-HISPANIC!what a load of crap the media is up to!!
    that would make mixed black people,WHITE-AFRICAN AMERICAN!?!..WHITE-ASIANS!?!.WHITE-ARAB!?!…etc..it’s garbage what the media is spewing at us!!

    how about WORK VISA IMPAIRED MUSLIM!??!(you know,the muslim’s that come here on work visa’s and just dissapear!!)or how about the muslim’s who come here to go to collage on visa’s and never make it to the collage??!!..over 17,000 of em and Obama doesn’t care!!

  • Jersy Jim

    Two people —
    Person “A” is married & has a history of helping people.
    Person “B” is a young man of 17 who for the last 2 years was getting into trouble and texting that he admired the skinheads and was trying live/imitate their life style.
    Person “A” sees Person “B” looking suspicious–he stays at a safe distance observing him because “A” has had break ins and roberys in his nieghborhood.
    Person “B” comes up behind him and says “YOU GOT A PROBLEM” then person “B” sucker punches person “A” breaking his nose–knocking him to the ground–and starts smashing his head on the concrete walkway. Person “A” fearing for his life pulls out the gun he had a license to carry and shoots him. Person “B” dies a few minutes later.
    If anyone here did wrong–who do you think it was Person “A” or “B”??
    It’s pretty obvious who was in the wrong—no one would tolorate another person giving him a beating with-out doing anything they can to protect themselves themselves.
    We need more ways to protect ourselves–NOT LESS! Don’t let them change the laws against the right to protect ourselves!
    Jersey Jim