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Gay Republicans Condemn Planned Government Objection To ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ Ruling

September 29, 2010 by  

Gay Republicans condemn planned government objection to 'don't ask, don't tell' rulingThe Department of Justice is planning to file an objection to the United States District Court's decision to ban the enforcement of the "don't ask, don't tell" (DADT) policy, a decision that has already drawn criticism. However, this time some of the condemnation has not come from the liberal left. 

In fact, Log Cabin Republicans (LGR), a national gay and lesbian grassroots organization, has expressed its disappointment with the government's plans to defend the 1994 act, which they consider to be unconstitutional.

"What is most troubling is that the government's request for a stay ignores the harm that [DADT] causes to current and potential members of our Armed Forces," said Dan Woods, an attorney representing LCR.

He added that "that is the saddest, most disappointing, and, in light of the president's position, most hypocritical part of the objections," in reference to President Barack Obama's well-known opposition to the ban.

Earlier this month, a Federal judge in Riverside, Calif., ruled in favor of halting implementation of DADT in a suit brought by LGR In October 2004, which went to trial in July 2010. 

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  • SteveMD2

    How can you be a republican and gay. The republicans are the enemy of humanity in this country. Catering to the relgious talibangelicals who gave us slavery the kkk, and segregation etc etc. And now have a new group to hate.

    And these people even had People like Cornyn etc at their recent meeting. From Tenn or is it Ky, where the baptist churches reign supreme. `And hatred is the law of the land.

    The log cabin repubs – I can’t imagine how they think they can change ther epub party. Religious hatred never ends, though it may find a new victim. Just look at sunni – shia, or the murderous violence that seems to finally have abated in No. Ireland, though there the issue was who got the govt jobs.

    The question is whether the Log cabinites are stabbing the gay community in the back, while the evil repubs are sharpening their knives to finish off the Log cabinites.

    Or will it just be another Arbreicht Macht Frei (look it up on google if you don’t recognize the german.

    • s c

      S, your arrogant, patronizing attitude has the same stench as that put out by Harry Reid, Queen Nancy Pelosi and your false White House “god,” Herr Obummer.
      Aside from the fact that this is a lame topic, you might as well delay your Mensa application (they, too, will tell you to stick it). The phrase that you slaughtered is properly known as ‘Arbeit Macht Frei.’ Stick to English, genius. Conversational German is way over your fuzzy head.
      By the way, Arbeit Macht Frei might be a good motto to put on the front door of the White House, especially since the two current occupants work for the same people as Adolf.

      • http://erniepyle.wordpress.com/ Another Oklahoma Rose

        The Josef Albrecht Bohrfutterfabrik GmbH & Co., located in Wernau, Germany, was established in 1908. From 1932 until the end of WWII, the company utilized the “labor pools” from the Death Camps to maintain a 24/7 production schedule of its precision drill chucks — in addition to other items produced strictly for the German Armies, and the upkeep of the gas chambers and other “population management resources”. There are any number of reference docs which DO use the “Albrecht Macht Frei” as a result of the number of Jews worked, literally to death, by this company and thousands of others, including hundreds from within the US with offices and “service outlets” in Europe, not the least of which was IBM. I am a Jewess. Steve MD2 may have been talking over YOUR head with his comment that you took as a misspelling of the “slogan” across the entrance arch to Auschwitz Death Camp. The survivors and heirs of suvivors, like myself, do the same quite often in conversation with each other or with goya. It is a reminder, a memory, of those who persecuted, slaughtered, and stole all then did all to erase the memory of their very existence from the entire planet. It keeps the Murderer’s name alive and is a subtle conversation “tag” to the faces and names of all who died at the hands of monsters such as this. He was NOT misspeaking nor perverting conversational German. In addition, Albrecht means “bright, noble” and is primarily but not always used as a name.

        Also, typos are common to all. I am a head injury survivor, from domestic violence, the impact rings of the OKC Murrah Bombing, and a black serial killer in St. Louis, Missouri, with a grudge against white women. Some days my thought processes don’t work in a refined manner. Some days my hands don’t get the message as I type that is conveyed from the logical, intelligent thoughts racing through my head like a mad computer virus, and what comes out may contain errors. Sometimes, it even takes a few hours for the correction possibilities to click. If one is going to lobe barbs it might behoove one to research the barb being honed before one allows said weapon to fly.

        Words are powerful, for good or evil. Amongst today’s international Islamic terrorists, this is called “Jihad of the Pen” and is considered the most blessed Jihad of all: the power of words to convey, to describe, to enliven, to destroy, to incite. The awesome power of words. This type of Islamic jihad is being conducted daily in every press release condemning Jews, Americans, dogs, cats, fleas, yogurt, and the gay community.

        In the book of Isiah 56:5, God responds to a group of allegedly intelligent community speakers who want him to condemn eunuchs (the term often given to homosexual men as they were impotent with women and unable to produce children. As such,they were also assigned the task of overseeing the safety of a harem since they were no sexual threat). As to your comments concerning the slaughter of homosexuals by the Nations of Islam, that is not funny. As was done in the Bible and during the Holocaust, millions of young men were sexually abused as children — still are, a child every 10 seconds in America. Films of these rapes were recorded by the Nazi regime and used as further propaganda to justify even more the slaughter of the “depraved and immoral” Jews when in fact the sodomists were Germans. These kids, called “Pink Rabbits” were then slaughtered. This also happens daily in Morocco, and in other countries by Moroccan men.

        Honorable service in a nation’s military should not be based upon whom one is love with or how God made you. It should be based upon service actions and behavior. In addition, one’s sexual lifestyle and preferences should be kept at home anyhow. Daily we hear more stories of young gay men being slaughtered in violent manners, and some who were NOT gay “but looked like it”. Daily, as in 20 minutes ago, there are young men who finally tell of their abuse and are further victimized and degraded by their abuser and kill themselves.I had a friend beaten to death with a baseball bat by three black men, semi-pro sports players in Texas, because he was two blocks from a gay bar, alone, looked gay, so they solicited him, dragged him off the streets, beat him and raped him in their car as they sped to the outskirts of Dallas where they beat to an unrecognizable pulp. During their trial, the mom of the victim asked “Why?” and one of the three said, “Because we were bored.”

        Israel welcomes the gay community. The philosophy being, “Because I do not understand your lifestyle does not give me the right to condemn or persecute. To do so is not the work of Yeshua and is, in fact, the same as the Jews endured under our persecutors throughout time immemorial. That is not szedaka. That is not love. And that, to judge you morally, is also not my job from God.”

        • Ellen

          Another Oklahoma Rose: Thank you from the bottom of my heart for sharing your heart-rending memories, experiences and so forth. I don’t know why it is so difficult for some to just leave others alone. I will never understand the arrogance, presumption, and cruelty that some insist on inflicting on others. I wish you the best that life has to offer.

        • Granny Mae

          Another Oklahoma Rose,

          Thanks for sharing your story. I have come to know several people that have been profoundly effected by the Natzi’s durring the war. It is heart wrenching. As for gays, I have mixed feelings toward them. I worked with them for over 11 years and found they could be outright disgusting and pitiful and yet there was something always silently screaming for help ! The gays I worked with always seemed to want to display and draw attention to their orientation. They would discus the most revolting things openly so that others could not avoid hearing what they were saying. They would make remarks to people walking by of a sexual nature and usually it was to someone that they knew was not of their persuasion ! There was a man that had a sex change that was not a woman at all. He was over 6 ft. tall weighed over 200 lbs. and built like a Texas linebacker with a voice that came out of the basement. His interrests were working on his truck and doing all the manly things but yet he had a sex change. There was nothing femamin about this guy what so ever and because he was considered a woman medically we had to share our bathroom with this guy ! It was not a good thing. these people are very sick and most of them from things that happened to them in their childhood. One young man had been dressed like a girl when he was little because his mother had wanted a girl not a boy! Why his father allowed it I have no idea. This same young man was raped by an uncle that his parents had babysit him and when he told them about it they wouldn’t believe him. Working and being around these people you will get an education whether you want it or not and it isn’t going to be the education you are looking for. I never dreamed of such perversion in all my life as what I heard come from their very mouths and for them it was just typical life ! I do not know what to do for or with them.

    • Angel Wannabe

      hey stevieMD2___The Democrats are responible for the KKK and Lincoln ended slavery!_Go back to school!

      • Doc Sarvis

        How is the Democratic Party responsible for the KKK?

        • Angel Wannabe

          DS_http://realdemocrathistory.wordpress.com/2008/05/15/the-kkk-was-the-terrorist-wing-of-the-democrat-party/
          There is countless of articles on them__ pick one!
          Besides the late Senator Byrd was also a Member!

          • Doc Sarvis

            Interesting one sided link. The KKK is NOT a one party creation and while there are Democrats that have been members there have been Republicans as well. I don’t think you can pin the creation of the KKK on either party.

        • crystal

          If you look at history after the Civil War you will see that the KKK was created by the Democratic Left. They continue with the Black sterotypes, but now call themselves liberals.

          • DavidL

            No, they were extreme right-wing CONSERVATIVES!

          • http://naver samurai

            No, they were Southern Democrats. Get your facts straight before you post, moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • slickporsche

      Are you gay?? Come to me, I will be glad to stab you anywhere you wish. Maybe I will just gut shoot ya! You piece human excrement.

      • Doc Sarvis

        I sense fear in your HATE speach. Poor you.

      • DavidL

        Be afraid. Be very afraid, slickporsche. The gays are coming for you. Be on the look out, many gays are conservative republicans. Oh the humanity.

      • Ellen

        You are beyond disgusting.

    • crystal

      Your concept of history is murky at best. The KKK was created by the democratic left.

    • EddieW

      Time to start curtailing the gay movement…now they want all kids in school to be taught gay is ok…and the many “great” reasons for it…guess they need more recruits…but…they coning to a school near you very soon!!!

    • Carole Howell

      I have a gay republican friend, I ask him that all the time. He is a very nice guy and a pleasant and loyal friend, and processes a wealth of information about birds, but politics is not his cup of tea. LOL

      You know people, you will never, no matter what you do, you will never be able to stamp out gays, prostitution, drugs, alcohol, obesity, Twiggy type female figures, weeds, bugs etc etc. And if you do finally succeed you will be dead and gone also.

      Get over it. Put your brains to more practical use. Stop being so…….trivial.

    • Robert Smith

      SteveMD2 asks: >>>How can you be a republican and gay.<<<

      You might get an answer from Dick Chaney's daughter.

      Rob

  • Mgdjr

    Hey idiot it was a Republican President that abolished slavery. Maybe you ought to “google” things before you speak!!!

  • Billy

    God made man in HIS own image, and then HE made woman for man to help him. Where does gay people come from? It must be some thing that people want to do, GOD certainly didn’t ordain it. Don’t tell me now that GOD was gay, if HE had been gay then he wouldn’t have mde woman. And don’t tell me that you were born that way. You are what you want to be.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Maybe God is bisexual.

      • crystal

        Maybe your a fool.

      • s c

        DS, you’ve spread yourself a bit thin today. You allow for the possibility that God is bisexual. And, you also imply that you believe in God. That makes you part of a distinct minority in the progressive camp.
        To put this issue to rest, maybe our military should adopt the same ‘peaceful, ‘true,’ time-tested and supremely “moral” position as Muslims when it comes to homosexuality. That is, anyone who is thought to be a homosexual should be killed (no appeals). If it works for Muslims, it should work for us. Food for thought, eh,?

        • Doc Sarvis

          Those would be the radical Muslims you are talking about not the majority of Muslims.

          • ValDM

            Doc,
            There are NO moderate muslims, We have radicals, certainly. The ones you would call moderate are just biding their time until they will be revealed radical.

          • Doc Sarvis

            ValDM
            You really believe that? Amazing.

    • James

      So Billy when did you decide not to be Gay!

    • Giz

      Billy, Did you have to make a decision to be gay or straight? It was just there right ? Well, I for one, did make the decision to be straight! It was the hardest thing I ever did. You try to deny ‘who/what’ you are and live the opposite. No small task. I’m a Born Again, Conservative, Log Cabin Republican !!!! I served in the military (secretly), worked my job for 43 years, bought 2 homes, raised 3 working class, college educated children (6 grandchildren), paid my taxes, ran for public office, was a union officer, have a partner for over 22 years, I’m presently a councilman in my home town and yes I’m even 1 of 4 people that started a very successful TEA party in the county I live in. What have you done that warrents you receiving ‘special’ priviledges that I’m being denied?? I am an American and should not be denied special priviledges because of my sexual orentation. I’m not a one issue voter. Vote us not me !!
      Remember we’re human and prone to failure and not perfect in God’s eyes but He provided a way to be forgiven. Not anything I could have done to warrent that forgiveness but accept it – I did. Wow if it only took being “straight” then why bother !!! Think about it. Being different is not a one way ticked to hell! I’m so glad. Oh, your God loves me to !!! His Son proved it. Have a great day.

      • http://erniepyle.wordpress.com/ Another Oklahoma Rose

        Please read Isiah 56:5 God did not condemn gay men. God, in fact, condemned those who persecute and victimize then, in order to cover their guilt or trail of crimes deemed punishable by death, shifted the blame back onto the victims. This is still a practice today, and a deadly one. God like different. He advocated speaking up for that which was not right and took away the rights and freedoms of others. He condemned persecution. His point with the story of the harlot and the men who were going to stone her to death was this is what they did to His mother after she became with child.

        They prayed for a Messiah, blessed their daughters decade after decade always having community fights and one up-man ship arguments over whose daughter would the most blessed and chosen to birth the Christ Child. When Mary was chose as the most blessed among women she was branded a harlot, no one believed her, she was looked upon with shame even by her mother. Christ’s point being, without man to persecute and exploit, without man holding finances and survival over a woman’s head, without man committing adultery in violation of the laws, without man pulling his trousers down to commit rape, there would be no harlots.

        Congrats on your successful life. Did you know Christ was actually one of the first freedom fighters? The crimes he was executed for amounted to high treason for speaking out against persecution and exploitation, against anti-semantics, and thus inciting riots and dissidence.

        Shalom, have a blessed day.

        • http://naver sook young

          Being gay is a sin in the eyes of God, plain and simple. It was one of the reasons, sexual immorality, for the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. It even says that in the last days that men will lose there natural affections for the woman and their hearts will burn for other men, and a woman for another woman. Being gay is an unnatural act. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Robert Smith

            From sook young: >>> It was one of the reasons, sexual immorality, for the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.<<<

            That's a diaper load. BTW, what's gamrraty? Am I missing something?

            In fact it was a hospitality issue that was the moral of the story. BTW, have you actually read it? The FACT is that Lott offered his vergin daughters to the mob.

            Later in the story he knocked both girls up.

            Some "hero".

            Rob

          • http://naver samurai

            Rob, get off of the drugs moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Granny Mae

          God said that a man that lies with a man as with a woman is an abomination ! Now that sure sounds like condemnation to me !

          • Robert Smith

            From Granny Mae: >>>God said that a man that lies with a man as with a woman is an abomination ! Now that sure sounds like condemnation to me !<<<

            Don't eat cheesburgers, lobster, or wear fabric blends either. BTW, how many kids have been killed lately for not respecting their parents?

            Oops, are you one of those cafiteria cherry pickers who just picks from the bible just the stuff that justifies your own feelings of hate?

            Rob

          • http://naver samurai

            Rob is being a moron again! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Granny Mae

          Rose

          I don’t know what bible you get your information from but as a Jew you should refrain from trying to teach Christianity !

    • slickporsche

      No in this modern fked up world, god does not exist. According to them, we are fools to think there is a higher being.

  • timmym

    Here’s an idea quit using the Republican party to promote your perverted behavior. You gays try to convince stupid people that your disgusting lifestyle is somehow acceptable AND IT’S NOT !. you want to ruin our military and the moral fiber of this country so you can cram your wicked sexual behavior down the throats of the American people and decent American people will not tolerate you !.Now give me your cop out racist comments since you can’t defend my comment ! go back to your closet !

    • Giz

      timmym, LOL Sorry you can’t/won’t see someone that isn’t ‘just like you’ as acceptable.. Just a FYI – you had at least one gay guy in the service during the V-N war, I know I wasn’t alone. No one is going to shove anything down your throat without your permission!!! I’m sorry your experiences with gay people have been negative. I’m sure you’ve dealt with many gays in your life and had no problem because you just didn’t know! Haven’t seen any racist comments other than those of yours and the mean ugly words of those, like you, who hate gays. Bottom line timmym – I don’t give a flying fig what you think – I’ll probably never meet you in this life but if you’ve accepted God’s gift to wipe away your sins – I will be walking “hand in hand” with you one day in His kingdom. I’ll be the grateful one “I’ll be whole” and perfect at that time. You’re already perfect so it will be less exciting for you, for sure.
      Ans I’ll be a very active member of the Rep. party with or with out your blessings. I believe in freedom and our constitution as much as any Rep. I’ve ever met. I don’t need hate to motivate me…..it’s love of country that moves me to ignore people like you and follow my hearts desires. God bless us all. Peace, bro.

      • http://personalliberty.com dave

        HEY GIZ, THANKS FOR YOUR SERVICE! i WAS THERE IN 66-67, GERRY OWEN! CUSTER’S OUTFIT. PROBABLY DID NOT RUN INTO YOU BUT GAY OR NOT WE ARE BROTHERS.BE SAFE. I HAVE MANY GAY FRIENDS WHO ARE NOT WILLING TO SELL OUT THEIR COUNTRY AND REMAIN GREAT REPUBLICANS!

        • http://naver samurai

          Dave and rob are lovers! What a croc of lies you 2 have told here! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Robert Smith

        From Giz: >>> I don’t give a flying fig what you think <<<

        If it was a cooky and it was flying would that make it a far fig newton?

        Rob

  • James

    Dude we have always been in the military and I’ll stop shoving it down your throat when you do the same.

    • slickporsche

      Yeah I bet you would like shoved up the other end. Well bend over here comes a 12gauge BOOOM! SEE any bright lights yet???

      • Doc Sarvis

        You really ARE afraid.

    • crystal

      This is not a Republican group. There just using the Republican name to move their agenda.

      • http://naver samurai

        I agree with you Crystal. We know that the GOP is not the gay party, but the dems are. All you people on this site who say that they have served but are gay, you have just disgraced the service you have had and the uniform you once wore. “Dragon Slayers, hooooorrrraaaahhhh!”
        FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        Samurai
        2/152 Inf BN

  • john

    Is’nt gay Republican an oxymoron?They’re still in the closet Democrats.

    • http://personalliberty.com dave

      OH YEAH? LAST 4 LETTERS IN REPUBLICAN….I CAN. LAST FOUR LETTERS IN DEMOCRATS…RATS. END OF STORY YOU RAT.

      • http://naver samurai

        Don’t listen to this dave fool. he’s just here to stir the waters. Probably one of Reid’s “bunk buddies” sent here to get us unorganized. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriots! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Mark

    Gay is just another term for weak minded people that couldn’t make it. Instead they whine and cry that their rights are being crapped on. Well fags, I’m doing the crappin’ on ya. God made man and woman, not faggots. In the real world 1 + 1 = 2. In a fags world 1 + 1 still equals 1. Sickies, they need to go with the illegals to mexico.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Homosexual people have served heroically in our military since the very beginning. God made us all whether we are heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual.

      • crystal

        No God did not.

        • Doc Sarvis

          I thought God made us all.

          • http://naver sook young

            Soory, but as a nurse and a christian I disagree with you analysis. God did make us all to be men and women, but he also wanted us to have an attraction for the opposite sex, not the same sex. Being a nurse, I’ve had to treat patients that were gay and dying from the AIDS virus. One of my patients in our hospital told everyone that he was gay, but that’s OK. He even said that he didn’t care who he got sick with this same disease. Does this sound like the way that Almighty God created us to be? I say no way. Being gay isn’t a mental disease or a factor of DNA, it is when we stop doing things the way God wants us to do them and satan fills our hearts with “unnatural” thoughts. Being gay in my hometown would be that same as being a North Korean. They would be treated the same way. Some of you here who claim to be christians and defend the gays and their lifestyle, aren’t really christians. God and Jesus will say “I never knew you” and send you to hell. Please try to read the word of God before posting such utter nonsense like this!

            Sook Young
            Wife of the Samurai

          • Granny Mae

            When it comes to the military, how would anyone know that another person was gay unles they told them?

          • Granny Mae

            Sook young,

            You are so right . You are a good person.

    • http://personalliberty.com dave

      Hey Mark, there are some really great gays around, unfortunately the only ones the MEDIA puts in front of us are the Perez Hilton types…absolutely disgusting and should go back in the closet and stay there. Lets not put them all in the same bucket. Many are conservative business owners who must keep a low profile because the MILITANT gays are like MUSLIMS who will kill any other MUSLIM and the conservative Hispanic business owners who hate illegals but can not say anything because of LaRaza retalliation!!!Strange how the MEDIA always love the HATE MONGERS!!LaRaza, NAACP, NOW, DEMORATS, ILLEGALS (who march in our streets demanding our services and money!), Militant Homosexuals(most gays DO NOT want marriage!). And the HATE MONGERS always call those who defer to NORMALCY and COMMON SENSE “hate mongers”! GO FIGGER!

    • Robert Smith

      Math from Mark: >>> In the real world 1 + 1 = 2. In a fags world 1 + 1 still equals 1.<<<

      So Mark, you are an advocate that any post-menopausal woman can't marry? Will you deny an injured war hero marriage because of where the bullet hit?

      BTW, try this for math:

      There are two girls and two boys. I'm sure you have no problem with each boy marrying a girl. That's two couples. If the girls marry and the boys marry that's TWO couples. Hmmmm, what's bad about two couples?

      Rob

      • http://naver samurai

        Two queer couples don’t count moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • timmym

    Yeah you have been in the military and how many times did you jump up telling all your fellow troops you were gay ? how about zero ! cause if you had you knew you would have been toast and I ain’t talking about administrative action ! you coward !. If you want to practice that disgusting behavior KEEP IT IN THE CLOSET YOU IDIOT !. Sexual perversion has no rights !

    • James

      You sound jealous!

    • crystal

      Sorry, but as a woman who served in the military, there were several homosexual women in our barracks and they threw it in your face everywhere you turned. Their behavior was disgusting and most of them were bullies.

      • Granny Mae

        crystal,

        I had the same experience when I was working. The talk that came out of their mouths was unreal and they had no respect for anyone that didn’t want to hear it. Straight people don’t display such behavior. I can’t figure it out ! Then you take that gay and lesbian festival they hold every year in San Francisco and see how they act and display themselves out in the public streets and include little children in their parade. Makes you sick that they have no dignity !

        • Robert Smith

          Hey Granny Mae… Why are you posting false information?

          Let’s look at it: >>> Straight people don’t display such behavior.<<<

          Clue: There are straiight bullies just as there are gay bullies.

          MOF, there are more straight ones.

          Rob

  • john

    Romans 1:16-32..says it all.The gay agendas purpose is to destroy the family unit of man,woman child.It is a perversion of nature,it cannot pro-create.It seeks to indoctrinate our children into accepting this perversion as normal.They worship the body which will decay and not the Creator.Are gay people evil? No.They are in denial and at odds with themselves..it is a sad struggle that I don’t envy.They need to get help.Hate the sin not the sinner,but do stand against the political gay agenda that is trying to force their perversion on society as normal.Read the book The Marketing of Evil by Dave Kupelian you will understand what is happening to our nation not just from the gay extremists,but the abortion industry and the entertainment indusrty as well.

    • James

      God dislikes the sin not the sinner.

      • s c

        J, in the event that you’re trying to quote or paraphrase the Bible, the correct quote is ‘hate the sin, not the sinner.’ You might find “dislike” in an apostate, worthless ‘Bible,’ but you won’t find that word in the Bible.

    • http://personalliberty.com dave

      It is the ENTERTAINMENT(?) industry coupled with the CORRUPT LEFT WING MEDIA which gave us the most INEXPERIENCED, UNACCOMPLISHED and MARXIST OBAMA for a president. If his MARXIST POLICIES are ALL PASSED INTO LAW, EVERY PERSON IN THIS COUNTRY WILL BE ENSLAVED…NO MORE BIG PAYDAYS FOR HOLLYWOOD OR THE SPORTS WORLD. DON’T BELIEVE IT? Show me some millionaires in any SOCIALIST COUNTRY. RIGHT! AINT NONE! BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ASK FOR PEOPLE IF ITS NOT TOTAL FREEDOM!YOU CAN NOT HAVE SOCIALISM AND FREEDOM AT THE SAME TIME. UH, WHY DO YOU THINK SO MANY PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO RISK THEIR LIVES TO GET HERE? NO WHERE ELSE!

      • Robert Smith

        From dave: >>>It is the ENTERTAINMENT(?) industry coupled with the CORRUPT LEFT WING MEDIA which gave us <<<

        The "left wing" media and entertainment is a load of crap. Media is BIG BUSINESS and television & radio stations are among the mostheavily regulated industries in America.

        May I suggest you buy a clue to the reality?

        Rob

    • Robert Smith

      From John: >>>.It is a perversion of nature,it cannot pro-create.<<<

      Awwww john… So, a heterosexual couple who can't have kids shouldn't marry?

      A lot of grandparents are gonna be upset with that one.

      Rob

      • http://naver samurai

        Still on drugs. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • timmym

    Just wait until the elections come Nov 2 and we dump the socialist party out of Congress with conservatives and then onto 2012 and the American people will dump socialist Obama from the Presidency then all this queer stuff will go away !

  • James

    Never gonna happen you hate monga. Your tea party needs to be tea bagged.

    • http://personalliberty.com Randy

      Plant.

    • http://personalliberty.com dave

      Dear James, your chosen Marxist party is chock full of teabaggers. Just ask Barney Frank who was instrumental in bringing about the MORTGAGE MELTDOWN(along withe Carter, the Clintons and Janet Reno and continues to this day!)…the COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT…PROVIDING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS IN MORTGAGE LOANS TO PEOPLE WITHOUT CREDIT AND THOSE LOANS WILL NEVER BE PAID BACK, EXCEPT BY TAXPAYERS TO FANNIE AND FREDDIE, FROM WHICH MANY DEMORATS PULLED OUT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AS THEIR SERVICE FEES!BY THE WAY, HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE A DUMBED DOWN DEMORAT STOOGE?

  • timmym

    Giz says ” No one is going to shove anything down your throat without your permission” what the hell do you think you gays are trying to do you goofball ! shove perversion down our throats as if it’s NORMAL and EXCEPTABLE ! and then sugar coat it to make it sound OK ! face the facts and go back to your closet ! that is the solution ! there is NO OTHER !

    • James . Hayden

      We had Gays back in the 60′s and it worked out O.K. As an ex military man I can tell you fo a term that stoped a lot of problems. “Fag a Fagot” Theay only patted you on the back side one time.

      • http://naver samurai

        Same liberal lies! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://personalliberty.com Randy

    If you’re a chick and you like to eat tacos, so be it (I have seen it take some gorgeous women off the market though, which is sad)or if you’re a guy who likes packin’ fudge, knock yourself out. I’ll tell you the Sodomites were destroyed because of the practice and you’ll be the one to pay for it in the end (sic), unless you try to force it on me or one of my family, then you’ll pay for it instanter. Never served with one in the military, but I did have a fellow officer several years ago(who was open about it and no one cared)who kept me from gettin’ my ass kicked on several occasions because he was a big intimidating guy and he didn’t take crap from thuglets. The problem I see developing is having another protected group of individuals who claim they don’t want to be discriminated against just treated equally, but in reality they want special treatment…like preference in getting jobs (especially gov’t jobs), home loans, student loans regardless of qualification/creditworthiness (just like blacks, wah wah wah, you know it’s true). Any act against a GBLT is already a federal hate crime, so it’s already started.

  • http://personalliberty.com dave

    First let me say, stevemd2 is a complete idiot and no way an MD! His md must stand for MANIC DEPRESSIVE. As a combat vet(Vietnam) and having had numerous very close gay friends whom I loved and respected, and sadly lost some to AIDS, the DADT is a simple solution. We all know LIBERAL SOLUTIONS to ANYTHING always results in DISASTER! Plastic bags anyone?! There is nothing worse than an OPENLY GAY/FLAMING soldier in uniform! And no soldier wants to be fondled or harrassed by another soldier. I have no problem with gays entering the military, just keep your mouth shut about your sexual preference and keep your hands to your self. The military is there for ONE REASON, protect AMERICA, which requires killing and breaking things.If you want to serve your country fine. If you are looking to find a girl/boy friend…wrong place. End of story

  • James

    Dave this is about the witch hunt of gays in the military, not doing anything to disgrace the uniform just doing their job but being hunted down thru private emails to friends which is wrong and needs to stop.According to Mc Cain it’s not the policy but it is the policy.

  • James

    You can be a convicted felon and the Army has a waiver for that. But sexual orentation ew yucky no waiver

  • 2WarAbnVet

    Traditionally open homosexuals have been restricted from military service for their own protection. At Ft. Campbell, a few years ago, a gay (or suspected gay) soldier was beaten to death by his fellow soldiers.
    In today’s permissive society homosexual behavior may be more acceptable. However, I served in Airborne units with soldiers who considered themselves to be the nation’s elite, and who frowned on aberrant behavior. I suspect similar attitudes prevail in the Marine Corps.

    • James hay

      Navy SEALS also.

      • S.C.Murf

        Screaming Eagles say the same.

        up the hill

    • Doc Sarvis

      The soldiers I know really don’t care as long as the people on their team act professionally and do their job. They would also prefer to know who is fighting next to them as opposed to wondering who is fighting next to them.

    • Robert Smith

      >>>At Ft. Campbell, a few years ago, a gay (or suspected gay) soldier was beaten to death by his fellow soldiers.<<<

      I hope they were tried and convicted for murder. Please don't blame the victim. Oh but he was gay… Guess that makes it OK to kill them.

      Rob

  • James

    First, the three ‘James’ comments above are not mine. Second, God’s Law (Lev. 20:13) made homosexual acts a capital offense, and every state in the union had laws which criminalized such acts. However, in Lawrence v. Texas (2003), the Supreme Court overruled the states and God, holding that the 14th Amendment’s “liberty” now includes the right to engage in homosexual acts.
    The federal Act, 10 USC 654 (1993), prohibited homosexual conduct in the military forces. President Clinton disagreed with that (on July 19, 1993) and suggested that homosexuals could serve in the military as long as they didn’t say they were homosexual. This is where the “don’t ask, don’t tell” expression originated, but it was never included in the law. The reason it wasn’t included was because the 1st Amendment says “Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech.”
    I would think, however, that, at least, military homosexuals would keep that fact to themselves, because there are, at least, a billion people in the middle east (many of whom are our allies) who, upon learning of that would kill them on the spot.

    • Robert Smith

      From James: >>>Second, God’s Law (Lev. 20:13) made homosexual acts a capital offense,<<<

      And America is NOT a theocracy like Iran.

      And, it won't be. Your bible babbling just doesn't impact Amercan law.

      Rob

      • James

        Robert, I know that, but it’s true that most Christians still think that homosexual acts are cardinal sins. That is, they place what “thus saith the Lord” above the edicts of federal judges. This is amplified by the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. For those who believe in and trust in the Lord, the order of importance is God, Country and then Man.

        • Robert Smith

          Hi James,

          >>>This is amplified by the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah<<<

          Yes, Lott was the christian hero in that story. I can't help but think of the horrors the daughters of those "true christians" must be going through. Lott offered his virgin daughters to the angry mob and then knocked them both up.

          Rob

          • James

            Lots daughters “knocked” themselves up after they got their father drunk. Contrary to what you implied, Lot was unaware of this (Gen. 19:31-36).

          • Robert Smith

            ahhh, the hero Lott… He was so drunk he couldn’t recognize his own virgin daughters but he could still get it up. That’s a hero (not).

            Rob

          • James

            Robert, Lot was not a Christian nor was he a hero. He was saved from the destruction because he was not homosexual. Apparently he was the only male there who was not homosexual.

      • http://naver samurai

        Wanna bet, moron? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • http://nc.rr.co Margaret

    A gay republican??haha. You’ve got to be kidding. Just another liberal ploy to divide Republicans. Just as there is no such thing as a “moderate Muslim”, so it is with gays who are obsessed with themselves rather than fight for Democracy. By the way if ever you are a dedicated soldier and you are “hit” on …tell these buckos to back off and if not you’ll sue them! And DO IT. It will bring awarenss to a social, unmoral problem with conviction. A gay “PUB.” hahahha….

  • http://nc.rr.co Margaret

    Or better, if ever you are hit on, beat the hail out them and call it “self defense!” It’s a right and it’s a responsibility.

    • James

      What’s the matter Margret aren’t you getting any. No dicks swinging your way you sound bitter.

      • http://naver sook young

        You sound like a mentally ill person. Are seeing a doctor and taking medications? If not, I really suggest that you do and try to get back to church. A good question for you would be: “미쳤어?” Are you crazy?

      • James

        James, I’m sure I’ve been commenting here longer than you so, please, add something to your name to make it unique. I don’t want to be blamed for your four-letter word vocabularly. Thank you.

  • Joe K

    When I was a union laborer, I voted for Bush 1 instead of Clinton, for Bob Dole instead of Clinton, for Bush 2 instead of Gore, for Bush 2 instead of John Kerry… To be honest, the union let me know their thoughts on it, but really did not give me to much grief.

    One day, though, a woman I was dating asked me how it felt to be part of the smallest political minority in America, a Union Republican.

    I told her that union Republicans are not the smallest political group in America. That would be the Gay and Lesbian Republicans.

    She asked me why is that and I told her, Well, Republicans don’t like them because they are gay and lesbian, and the Democrats don’t like them because they are party traitors.

    The next day I got an email from her telling me that her mom, her dad, her grandma, grandpa, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts and cousins were all democrats and while she thought my views were funny, she was breaking off the relationship.

    I concluded that was a good thing. I mean, the last failed relationship I had took 25 years to come to nothing. I wrote her back and told her I appreciated her expediency.

    • Granny Mae

      Joe K’

      LOL ! That is just too funny ! Smart move on your part !

  • http://www,elmerscorbyjr.webd.com Elmer Corby

    I condem gay republicans

  • http://www,elmerscorbyjr.webd.com Elmer Corby

    Easier to condem Gay Republicans

  • timmym

    RandyW Ann Coulter is not gay stop making fiction fact and do your homework before you slander someone !

    • Angel

      Hahahahaha… just Annie and Rush L. have had homosexual relations but won’t take ownership of their sexual identity. They never cry slander because they can’t defend themselves!

      • http://personalliberty.com Randy

        Hey, experimentation don’t make you queer…unless you liked it.

        • 45caliber

          Reeeeeallly??

  • PatriotGunny

    Ten Reasons to Oppose the “LGBT Law” for the Military
    Congress approved the 1993 law regarding homosexuals in the military,
    usually mislabeled “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,” with bipartisan veto-proof
    majorities. Federal courts have upheld the constitutionality of the law (Section 654, Title 10, U.S.C.) several times. President Barack Obama has promised lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgendered (LGBT) activists that he would repeal the 1993 law. For reasons summarized below, Congress should reject pending legislation to impose a new LGBT Law on the Military:

    1. Current findings remain valid. The 1993 law states “there is no
    constitutional right to serve,” and the military is a “specialized
    society” that is “fundamentally different from civilian life.” In living conditions offering little or no privacy, homosexuality presents an “unacceptable risk” to good order, discipline, morale and unit cohesion–qualities essential for combat readiness.

    2. Open-Ended “LGBT Law.” Legislation sponsored by Rep. Patrick Murphy
    (D-PA) and Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) would require acceptance of professed (not discreet) sexual minorities, banning discrimination against “homosexuality or bisexuality…whether real or perceived.”

    3. Effects far-reaching, retroactive. If passed, the LGBT Law would affect all military branches and communities, to include Army and Marine infantry, Special Operations Forces, Navy SEALS, surface ships, and submarines, on a constant (24/7) basis, with retroactive effect.

    4. Violations of sexual privacy. Separate housing would be impractical, hugely expensive or unacceptable to LGBT “civil rights” activists. Pretending that sexual tension does not matter would create a “hostile work environment,” tantamount to forcing women to live in close quarters with men.

    5. Increased misconduct, both consensual and nonconsensual. Because human beings are not perfect, male/male and female/female incidents, in addition to problems already occurring, are predictable. Unit commanders will be burdened with personnel turmoil, accusations of bias, and potential career penalties that have the effect of weakening trust and team cohesion.

    6. Involuntary losses and “zero tolerance” of dissent. Assigning “civil rights” status to LGBT personnel would impose a corollary “zero tolerance” policy, forcing career penalties on anyone who disagrees for any reason, starting with chaplains and personnel of most major faiths.

    7. Voluntary personnel losses. Many personnel will not complain of
    problems, even in cases of assault or abuse of rank, due to fear of career penalties and questions about their own “attitudes.” They will simply decline reenlistment. Potential recruits will avoid the military.

    8. Mandatory LGBT Training. To make the new law “work,” the Defense
    Department will modify mandatory sensitivity training programs to include LGBT curricula at all educational institutions and schools.

    9. Family housing and benefits. Military family housing likely will
    include same-sex couples, increasing pressures for repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA). Declining family retention would leave fewer, less skilled troops to face more deployments and potential combat.

    10. No case for repeal. If the proposed LGBT Law does not improve
    recruiting, retention, and readiness in the All-Volunteer Force, it should not be passed.

    • timmym

      VERY WELL SAID PatriotGunny !

    • 45caliber

      I agree. When Israel first existed men and women served together. Sex became such an issue, causing problems, that the Israeli army today does not allow women into combat. Not because they can’t fight but because it caused too much sexual tension and serious military problems.

      • Robert Smith

        Hey 45! Absolutely FALSE.

        See: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/femcom.html

        >>>Female soldiers are supposed to be trained and responsible for the same duties as their male counterparts. Those recruited for combat units have to serve for 30 months instead of the current mandatory period for women of 21 months.

        Rob

        • http://naver samurai

          Rob is a moron if he doesn’t think things like this happen. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • S.C.Murf

    AS THE DAYS OF LOT
    Another unusual description is found in Luke chapter 17: likewise also as it was in the days of Lot:… Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. The days of Lot was characterized by Sodom and Gomorrah-homosexuality and sodomy!
    The recent homosexual march on washington, endorsed by Pres. Clinton,was the largest such gathering in history. Men dressed as women, women bare breasted, men passionately kissing other men, openly simulating acts of sexual perversion, much as in the days of Lot, they proudlyflaunted their sin and sodomy. As soldiers, declaring war on decency, they marched and chanted, “We’re young! We’re queer! We’re gonna rule the world!”
    The American Psychiatric Asso. listed homosexuality as a mental disorder. Sodomy is still against the law in some states. And when you consider the deadly plague of Aids-common sense and compassion- would at the very least discourage the homosexual lifestyle. And yet, without rhyme or reason, homosexuality is romanced and glamorized by the media, talk show hosts,and politicians-literally day and night! Senator Ted Kennedy(and many other politicians), has vowed to pass legislation for homosexuals to be protected under the civil rights act.
    The media has protrayed the homosexual relationship as a monogamous, loving, family environment, but according to the institute for sex research-the average homosexual will have between 300 and500 sex partners! And 28 percent of male homosexuals admitted to having sex with 2000 partners. And according to the Washington Post, bisexuality and homosexuality, have become thee “in” thing among our public schools
    This is the depth to which mankind is sinking. It’s not how close one can live to the abis without falling in, but rather how far away can one get

    • timmym

      SOOOOOO TRUE S.C.Murf !

    • James

      Amen!

    • Robert Smith

      Get it right. The sodomy laws were invalidated by the 2003 Supreme Court decision Lawrence v. Texas.

      BTW, the USMJ applies the same laws against heterosexuals too. BTW, how do you tell the difference between the lips of a girl or the lips of a guy if it’s dark?

      Rob

    • James

      S.C.Murf, Luke 17 also says: “as it was in the days of Noe [Noah], so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man…they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the…flood came, and destroyed them all.” These marriages referred to miscegenation (Gen. 6). Noah was saved because he was “perfect in his generations” (v. 9).

      • Robert Smith

        Religious gobblygook…

        Remember James, not everyone feels your holy book applies to them. I certainly don’t.

        Rob

        • James

          Robert, The Bible is simply a history book. The Great Flood and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah are proven historical facts, many nations recorded those events in their books. If you aren’t interested, fine.

        • http://naver samurai

          That’s why you are going to burn rob! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Kraig

    Let’s look at the Bible and remember one thing. The First chapter of Genesis states that God created Man and Woman in his image and likeness. But…. there went up a mist. This mist is mankind’s attempt to say that individuals are smarter than their Creator, and there really can’t be a creator, since they are so intelligent themselves. We now have judges who create new classes of entitlees (those entitled to special status). W (Bush, that is) had it right. He felt that those who did not fit the definition for marriage (for thousands of years) could have a similar relationship set by a type of contract. A secular contract. Not a contract which most feel is part and parcel of their religious belief. But, no, we move back to the mist and say, “God must have made me that way, so I AM ENTITLED.” Why can’t you assert the same rights for murderers and child molesters? They just are that way, so God must have made them that way! It goes back to one thing: “The poor ye shall always have with you.” The morally poor will always be out there. What the intellectually elite (and effete) want to do is destroy our Judeo-Christian values, and say we must abandon any traditional belief that isn’t to their liking and accept as right any thing they deem to be so. Have we all done things wrong? Have we all done things of which we aren’t proud? Of course! Just don’t demand that I accept your behavior as a new Constitutional right, and as an acceptable action which is not moral sin.

    • Joe K

      Kraig,

      Wow, what a mixture of got it right, got it wrong, got it right, got it wrong.

      It is easy to agree with your apparent sentiment that Christians should not, must not adopt the falsities claimed by the gays and lesbians.

      But where in the world did you get your theology? Wow.

      What a mess. LOL

    • 45caliber

      Everyone has free will. The Bible even says that. It also says that if you yield to sin, you will be punished. It doesn’t say that God made you to sin; it simply says that sin is present and you have the choice.

      So when these people start insisting that “God made me this way so it isn’t a sin,” are basically saying that all sin is acceptable to God.

      I think some people are going to be surprised after God comes.

      • Robert Smith

        From 45: >>>I think some people are going to be surprised after God comes.<<<

        Particularly if it's in another boy god.

        Rob

        • http://naver samurai

          Still on drugs!

    • James

      However homosexuals came to be that way is beside the point, God simply wanted them removed from His kingdom here. “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination” (Lev. 18:22); and “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them” (Lev. 20:13). To my knowledge, no White Christian nation has ever enforced that law, all American States had laws that criminalized homosexual acts, but never made them a capital offense. I see that as inviting God’s chastisement.

      • Robert Smith

        Why don’t you cover the whole thing, James?

        Leviticus 18, verses 6 to 21, contain a whole series of forbidden forms of incest with one’s:

        Verse 6: relatives that are “near of kin.”
        Verse 7: father or mother.
        Verse 8: father’s wife.
        Verse 9: sister or step sister.
        Verse 10: granddaughter.
        Verse 11: sister or step sister.
        Verse 12: aunt on the father’s side of the family.
        Verse 13: aunt on the mother’s side of the family.
        Verse 14: uncle or aunt.
        Verse 15: daughter-in-law.
        Verse 16: sister-in-law.
        Verse 17: female friend together with a close female relative of the friend.
        Verse 18: wife’s sister.
        Verses 19 and 20 leave the topic of incest but continue the theme of forbidden sexual activity:

        Verse 19 forbids sexual activity with a menstruating woman.
        Verse 20 forbids adultery with a neighbor’s wife.

        More from: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh3.htm
        Death is sometimes required by the Hebrew Scriptures as the punishment for ritual transgressions. These included the worshiping of other Gods, gathering sticks on the Sabbath (Numbers 15:32-36), improper eating of ritual offerings (Numbers 18:32), ineligible persons acting as priests (Num 3:10).

        Over the last few centuries, most Christians and Jews have rejected Leviticus 20:13. They no longer call on the death penalty for homosexuals. Only Christian Reconstructionists and a few Christian hate groups wish to revert to mass executions of gays and lesbians today.

        Rob

        • James

          Robert, I didn’t include those, because they were off subject. All told there are over twenty sins that are capital offenses. I also realize that most Christian nations have rejected them. However, they were rejected by appointed judges, not by the people. Christians go by Jesus’s statement (Mt. 5:17-19): “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”
          If memory serves, ‘heaven and earth’ have not passed, and God will hold Christians accountable to His Law, when they are judged. To Christians, morals are established by God, not men.

          • Robert Smith

            From James: >>>If memory serves, ‘heaven and earth’ have not passed, and God will hold Christians accountable to His Law, when they are judged.<<<

            Good! I'm off the hook. I'm not christian. Soooooo, that there christian god isn't interested in me.

            Actually I wasn't ever on any kind of hook because I never baught into it in the first place. If they believe I'm going to eternal damnation and flames I don't care as long as they don't believe it in my face. OOPS! I see lots of folks who don't want gays to "be in their face."

            Maybe if christians set an exampel and get out of everyone's face.

            Rob

          • James

            Robert, if you are not one of the people to whom God gave His law, then you will not be judged by it.

    • Robert Smith

      From Kraig: >>>Let’s look at the Bible and remember one thing. <<<

      And that should be that ONLY those who CHOOSE to follow it are obliged to follow it.

      We have no state religion in America.

      Rob

      • James

        Robert, it’s true that the United States is not a theocracy, but in our beginnings the only religion that was here was Christianity. If the Bible declared some acts sins, they were made crimes in our law. As for God’s Law only applying to those who believe, you are mistaken. All will be resurrected and judged by God’s Law, whether they were believers or not.

        • Robert Smith

          From James: >>>but in our beginnings the only religion that was here was Christianity.<<>> If the Bible declared some acts sins, they were made crimes in our law.<<>>As for God’s Law only applying to those who believe, you are mistaken.<<>>All will be resurrected and judged by God’s Law, whether they were believers or not.<<<

          Nope, you don't get to include me in christianity against my wishes. It's un-American to force another to "believe." I think that the social contracts made here in America, the laws that even atheists can make, are best. Don't steal, don't murder, etc. That garbage about worshiping the one true christian god doesn't wash with me. Please keep it inside the christian faith, just as christians demand that those who do any sex besides the missionary position not ever talk about it.

          Rob

          • James

            Robert, I am not including you in Christianity. There is no biblical evidence that the people in Sodom and Gomorrah were ever told about God’s law, and were given a chance to repent, they were just zapped.

      • http://naver samurai

        We’re a Christian nation rob, so get over it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Phoenix

    The law banning openly Gay and Lesbian people from being openly
    Gay and Lesbian, (Don’t ask, Don’t tell) should stand. The law
    does not prevent gay people from serving in the military. It
    prevents them from, assuming that they can act on their perverse
    sexual impulses, and suffer no consequence for it.
    The real reason that Gays want the, Don’t ask, Don’t tell, provision to be eliminated is so that they can be openly homosexual
    with no consequences what so ever!! That is the goal.
    Heterosexuals, are not even allowed to act on their sexual
    impulses while in uniform. Why should homosexuals be given a
    a pass.
    Don’t as, Don’t tell, doesn’t stop homosexuals from serving
    in the military. What it does, say, is that if you keep your
    sexual identity, and behavior to yourself, and or away from
    your comrads in arms, the military will not prevent you from
    serving. If you act, or attempt to act on your sexual impulses
    you will be kicked our of the military.
    This plan has worked well.
    The only people who were relieved from service, were those
    who acted on their sexual impulses, while in service.
    There are probably many homosexual people who serve, and
    keep their sexual identity to themselves.
    Getting rid of don’t ask, don’t tell will harm, the military
    in many ways.
    That is the reason Don’t ask, don’t tell, came to be in the
    first place. There was a problem with gay people serving, and
    the military wanted to find a way to keep everyone happy.

    • Joe K

      Phoenix,

      You are right in what you said.

      When I was in the army myself in the early 70′s there was a huge explosion of drug use in the army after the Vietnam war. Most of the guys I knew were stoned at least every evening and most of the weekends.

      That was illegal. So how did they get away with it? Primarily by NOT thumbing their noses at the first sergeant, the company commander or the President of the United States and daring them to do something about it.

      The whole ‘gays in the military’ issue was drummed up in the first place by gays and or lesbians who made it an issue by thumbing their noses (figuratively speaking) at the office of the President of the United States, and the American people. If the average gay or lesbian soldier has the sense of a pot-head, all they have to do is keep their mouths shut about what they do and be careful where and when they do it. If they had that much sense, there would be no problem, if being left alone is all they really wanted.

      That is not what they really want. They are seeking a fundamental shift in our society that favors their perversions and illegalizes any and all opposition. They do not seek acceptance, they seek capitulation of the entire rest of our society to their demands. They present those opposed as being morally or mentally off track, hence the famous terms “homo-phobe” and “homophobic bigot” with which they brand any one not capitulating to them.

      They seek to subjugate the rest of America to their political power. Hence, homosexuality is no longer just a moral abomination, it has also become a political abomination to a free people.

      • 45caliber

        I agree completely!

      • http://naver samurai

        I agree and well said. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • 45caliber

      Phoenix:

      I agree. The real thing they want is the right to proposition their team mates without anyone being able to stop them. The vocal gays aren’t interested in becoming a soldier; they want to join a sex club with all those handsome and fit men!

      Incidently, such people are useless in combat. When they are forced into it (by the enemy) they simply come apart and expect everyone else to protect them.

    • James

      Phoenix, the law does ban openly gay and lesbian people from serving in the military services. That’s the way the law is written. What gays and lesbians want is to have that part of the law repealed.

  • Fast Freddy

    Our Military establishment is the ONLY institution that I still respect. Our politicians have screwed up just about everything that they’ve been involved with, from our schools to our economy to even causing us to lose in Viet Nam. The folks that run our Armed Forces should be the ones that set the policies for our troops, certainly NOT limp-wristed tools of the gay agenda,[that would include Obama, Soros, Gill and those Hollywood morons.]

  • Angel

    Larry Craig for President!!

  • Angel

    There are so many prominent gay republicans right now – Ed Gillespie and Ken Mehlman formerly in the party leadership; Mark Kirk – candidate for Senate; pundits like Ann Coulter; and so on. We need to get over it!

    • 45caliber

      I’ll bet Ann will be interested to know she is gay.

  • jopa

    Fast Fred:The ones running our armed forces out of Washington were the reason for the outcome in Nam not the troops on the ground.We did’nt lose in Nam because there was nothing to win.The same goes for Iraq and Afganistan.Our troops can win battles it is up to Washington to win a war.Hollywood types, you forgot Chuckles Norris and Jon Voight.

    • 45caliber

      You are correct! I was there for nearly two years. Our orders were to ignore and leave anything we found including weapons and explosives as it might cause the VC to pull out of the Paris “Peace” Talks if we destroyed or moved them. Morale went down so fast it wasn’t funny. We also had orders – in places like D-zone where ONLY VC lives – to not shoot back if shot out unless we could guarantee that we hit only the person shooting at us. Otherwise we were to remain in place until he left.

      And they wonder why the military was upset.

      Even worse, I saw my daughter’s history book on Vietnam. It said, “The military lost the war in Vietnam but the heroic (their word) Senators under Sen. HH Humphrey were able to form a truce long enough to pull out the troops before they were wiped out.”

      Riiiiiiiiggggghhhht!

  • http://personallibertydigest Clarence Crosby ,Hubert ,NC

    I wouldn’t dream of saying anything slanderous or demeaning or insulting about immoral , indecent , sexually disfunctual , perverts who perform sick , gross , disgusting , disease spreading acts on each other . Then work so very hard to legitimize their sickness so they can corrupt society to gain more converts and become socially acceptable.

    • 45caliber

      I appreciate your restraint on this issue.

  • libra

    FOLKS–JUST GOOGLE THE DOWN LOW CLUB IN CHICAGO.. FAVORITE HANGOUT OF RHAMBO AND OBAMA .. OBAMA’S TASTE RUNS TO OLD WHITE MEN AND CRACK COCAINE. NOW WE KNOW WHY HE WANTS THE GAY COMMUNITY TO FLAUNT THEIR ABERRANT SEX ACTS. THEY WANT THESE ACTS TO BE TAUGHT IN OUR SCHOOLS, BY THEM, AS AN ALTERNATE WAY OF LIFE. THEY WANT THEIR OWN SEXUAL DESIGNATIONS.. CAN YOU JUST SEE THE FORMS WHERE A SEX IS TO BE CHECKED OFF. CHOICES M-F-H-T-L AND MAYBE A FEW THAT ARE NOT YET KNOWN–MAYBE A B FOR ANIMAL LOVERS.. THEY ONLY WANT SPECIAL RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES AND PROTECTION TO SPREAD THEIR ALTERNATIVE LIFE STYLE..
    LET THE DON’T ASK DON’T TELL STATUS STAND. IT HAS WORKED.

    • 45caliber

      Correct.

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Angel

      Mark Kirk – the next senator from Illinois – is a member too.

  • http://Charter.net Ray

    The 1993 law, which passed both houses with well above veto proof majorities, forbids, as it should, gays to serve in the military. There is no place in our armed forces for abominable behavior such as theivory, murderers, pedofilia or homosexuality. Slick Willie Clinton signed the law, knowing that a veto would have been over ridden. In order to placate gays he, by execkutive order instituted the “don’t ask don’t tell,” policy and the congress chose not to over ride the policy, as they could have had they chosen to do so.

  • 45caliber

    “What is most troubling is that the government’s request for a stay ignores the harm that [DADT] causes to current and potential members of our Armed Forces,” said Dan Woods, an attorney representing LCR.

    And what of ignoring the harm that repealing it will do to the current and potential members of our Armed Forces?

    According to a questionare the military took of ALL members, 25% said they would resign rather than serve with openly gays. And I seriously doubt if the number of gays wanting to join openly will replace that many soldiers.

    Good soldiers, straight or gay, do not talk about sex. When they do, they generally get into trouble. Gays aren’t the only ones kicked out of the service over sex! The real problem here is that the gays want protection by law when they proposition someone. With DADT, they can’t do that.

  • Jimmy

    a self cleaning oven:
    Conservatives love God and hate sin, but are somewhat tollerant, I mean they don’t hunt down and kill homosexuals [much]!

    but obama husain is pushing Sheria law since he is a muslim:
    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/-obama-tells-egyptian-foreign-minister-i-am-a-muslim-stealth-coup-on-the-white-house.html

    which means the muslim/democrats will hunt down gays and stone them to death, or the more modern ones will no doubt shoot them.
    so, let the gays become democrats and obamatrons [they will accept their platforms], and once in power will exterminate them like Hitler did.
    self cleaning oven, gays don’t like conservative values, then become a liberal [they will accept any perversion], and then they, after they win the election will enact Sharia law and stone the gays that voted for them to death, end of gays!

    • 45caliber

      I’m perfectly willing to help the gays get married by providing them with a one way ticket to Iran so they can get one of the imam there to perform the wedding.

  • Robert Hagedorn

    Anal sodomy? For a really big surprise, google The First Scandal Adam and Eve. Then click until you get the surprise, which will be…too much work?

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