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Gay Advocacy Group Upset About White House Rejection

April 14, 2011 by  

Gay advocacy group upset about White House rejectionAlthough Congress approved the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" (DADT) last December, a gay military advocacy group still got the cold shoulder from the Federal government this week.

According to media reports, Servicemembers United was not allowed to attend the launch of a military families initiative hosted by First Lady Michelle Obama at the White House. Officials said that the policy banning openly gay individuals from serving in the military has not come into effect yet, which is why the advocacy group was left out of the April 12 event.

However, Servicemembers United Director Alexander Nicholson said that the organization is disappointed with the White House's explanation. He told FOX News that no member who is currently enlisted or subject to DADT was going to attend the gathering, which he described as the first major military event since the repeal vote.

"We thought it natural to request to be included and expected to be included, honestly, given the administration's rhetoric," Nicholson told the news source.

The United States Armed Forces is preparing for the repeal to go into effect, as the four branches have issued training materials about the policy to approximately 2.2 million active-duty and reserve personnel, according to The Washington Post.

Last week, Gen. James Amos, who had opposed Obama's plan to repeal DADT, reported to Congress that the transition has proceeded smoothly thus far in the Marines.

"There hasn’t been the recalcitrance or push-back. There has not been the anxiety over it from the forces in the field," Amos told the House Armed Services Committee, quoted by the media outlet. 

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  • bsfurg

    dont they keep telling you to watch what the obamas do not what they say??

  • TIME

    Tools, more tools and even more tools.

    Man the mindless sheep will do anything if they think they can be more special.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Nicholson was disappointed with the White House’s explanation. Well, sweetie get in line! Aren’t we all?

  • Inge

    Awwwwwwwwwww, breaks my heart. Guess what I was not invited either.

    • wandamurline

      Wouldn’t go if I was invited…can’t stand him or his Ms. Sit back and watch as the gays get killed overseas….now it will be because they were gay that they got no help from their comrads, etc. Here we go…I feel sorry for our straight soldiers and officers who have to put up with this crap. You know God created Adam and Eve….not Adam and Steve.

      • unreligious

        What an original statement I’ve never heard anyone say that before. But if you believe in God and that he created everything, then it would stand to reason that he did create Steve too.

        • Brad

          Unreligious,

          God created Adam in his image and set Adam in the Garden of Eden. God saw Adam was sad, as Adam slept God removed one of Adams ribs and created Eve, Adams wife/mate. There’s nothing in the bible that talks about Steve, maybe you should read the bible to enlighten yourself and then seek forgiveness.

          • karolyn

            I cannot believe that intelligent people really believe that myth! Hey, what about all the incest that ensued to begin the human race?

          • 45caliber

            karolyn:

            I get high hopes for you and then you make a comment like this one. Oh, well. I’ll keep praying for you.

            Speaking on incest, why are you worried about that? There has ALWAYS been incest in history although we keep trying to weed it out. When people are isolated there isn’t much choice. I have a missionary cousin who goes into eastern Russia a lot. Most of the villages he visits there seldom if ever have had outside visitors. Do you think incest doesn’t exist there even today?

            Check the wagon trains going west a hundred years ago or more. I saw an article that commented that there was a high occurrence of families leaving that had Mom, Dad, brother and sister. But when they arrived wherever they went, it was Mom, Dad, son and wife. And that was here not that long ago.

            Don’t get so bent out of shape about our early ancestors.

          • libertytrain

            Oh Karolyn you taking lessons from Rob Smith now.

          • http://deleted Claire

            libertytrain–I will no doubt tick some people off, but I think there are more important issues at hand right now. Jobs, the economy, the war, and the illegals— all that other can be dealt with later. America has to get on her feet and become the country she once was.
            Speaking of illegals, I haven’t heard any politician say one word about the illegals lately. Wonder where they all “stand” on this issue?

          • Karolyn

            Now liberty, you know I’m not like him.

          • libertytrain

            Claire you are correct – there are an endless array of horrible issues right now.

          • http://deleted Claire

            libertytrain–Hey!! From the frying pan to the fire. Yes, many many issues far more greater in importance to deal with. Wish I could wave a magic wand and make all the “bad” go away.

          • http://naver samurai

            I also agree with you clare. I don’t know why they always bring this group up. Americans don’t really care about them, at least the majority do not. They got snubbed by Obama bin Laden, oh well. So has many other people and groups that are more important to this nation, like the military, veterans, the average taxpayer, and him always stepping on the Constitution. At least when they keep bringing up this group, it gives me a chance to knock down some libs like pop-up targets. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Thomas Alex

            No intelligent person believes in fiction like the bible. They are against Gay marriage, yet Adman and Eves kids had incestuous marriage!

          • http://naver samurai

            Thomas Alex, you are a moron and one of the problems of this country! Our country is in the shape it is now, because we have left the ways of our Founders and have gotten away from God and his word.
            “If we and our posterity neglect religious instruction and authority; violate the rules of eternal justice, trifle with the injunctions of morality, and recklessly destroy the political constitution which hold us together, no man can tell how sudden a catastrophe may overwhelm us and bury all our glory in profound obscurity.” Noah Webster.
            Take the hint Alex and quit being a moron. You say the Bible is full of lies and stories, then it is up to you to prove that. Oh I forgot again, you’re a lib and the only thing I’ll probably hear are the crickets chirping in the background. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jay

            I think Karolyn prefers my Ma and Pa were monkeys myth!

        • karolyn

          AMEN!

          • Patty

            Karolyn & Claire-Stop. Take just 30 seconds and pray. Both of you.

          • http://deleted Claire

            Patty: I do a lot of praying, so what is your point?

          • http://naver samurai

            My wife and I also do a lot of praying. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • http://naver samurai

          Being gay is a choice and has nothing to do with creation. It has nothing to do with psychology (1973 the APA stopped saying it was a mental disorder) or DNA (No gay gene has yet been found.). I could sit here at embarrass you, but why waste the effort. Just look in your Bible and you’ll know we patriots are telling you the truth. Just because someone like you doesn’t mean you get asked out or invited anywhere. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Thomas Alex

            Only an ignorant person would think it was a choice, or someone who chose themselves to be who they are.

          • http://naver samurai

            Only a complete moron would think it was a psychological problem (Was crossed off of this list starting in 1973 by the APA) or DNA (no gay gene has been found yet). Prove it isn’t a choice. Since you can’t, I guess I’ll just be listening to the crickets chirping in the background. Remember moron, during the Revolution (1777) Congress resolved to import 20,000 volumes of the Bible because “the use of the Bible is so universal and it’s importance so great.” Take the hint moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jay

            Thomas Alex, if its not a choice to be born gay, then its not a choice to be born heterosexual, right?
            If this is so, then you should say the same about pedophilia, necromancy, bestiality, s&m, these are all sexual preferences and life styles, there are many more then the ones I just mentioned.

            If our sexual preference is genetically predetermined, where we have no choice, what else can we add to the list; drug abuse, alcoholism, penchant for murder, thievery, beating your wife? What are we to make of bisexuals? Where does it end?
            Why should only gays be allowed the luxury of claiming genetic determinism? Shouldn’t everybody else? Why not, that way no one could point a finger at anyone else! Peace at last! What if serial killers are genetically predisposed to a killing lifestyle. Why not? Prove its not true, and until then, give them the benefit of the doubt. We can shut down all penitentiaries, courts and the police force! Why not? We are all born this way!

            Its also possible, Thomas Alex, that you are genetically predetermined to be a schmuck!

        • Ken

          Karolyn: It is time to quit practising that.

        • James

          Unreligious, God only created Adam and Eve. Adamites are subject to God’s Law, which contains over twenty sins that are capital offenses, one of which is Leviticus 20:13. I’m sure, before this is over, we’ll appreciate the wisdom of that. When gay preachers, teachers, and scout leaders start molesting their charges, we’ll be praying for their removal.

      • Thomas Alex

        You know god is a fictitious character right? And you also know that 75k LGBT Americans are currently serving their Country to protect your ignorant freedom.

        • http://naver samurai

          First, God is real, so get over it moron! Second, where do you get 75,000 gays are serving this country? Can you cite a credible source or was this just another lib rant that I should ignore? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY.

          • Thomas Alex

            You chose to believe in god, which means you had to create that belief. Everyone is born Atheist, then some sad people chose to believe in fiction. The Pentagon said 75k LGBTs were serving. Not to mention the Military said it as well. What do you expect with 10%+ of the population being LGBT.

          • http://naver samurai

            Still not able to cite a credible source, I see. How do you know the military said this? When did they say this and who said it? 10%+ of the population being queer (Yes, I used that word and can care less if I did.)? Where do you get these lies for sources? I think you need to go back to your lib sites where morons like you would be welcome. If you do decide to stay, try bringing some truth to this debate and not the same lib lies, rhetoric, and inuendo. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

            P.S. People aren’t born atheist. Everyone is born with a notion that there is something higher and more powerful than us. Bzzzzz you lose again moron!

        • James

          Tnomas A., No, I didn’t know that, I’ll have to inform the billion Muslims in the Middle East of that, so they wont slaughter our gays.

        • Jay

          You know that being born gay is a fictitious science right? A fairy tale invented by perverts in order to engage in their mindless and perverted lifestyle!

          • http://naver samurai

            100% agree. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Cawmun Cents

            Romans 1:25-32…25 Instead of believeing what they knew was the truth about God,they deliberately chose to believe lies.So they worshipped the things God made but not the Creator himself,who is to be praised forever Amen.26 That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires.Even the women turned against the natural way and instead indulged in sex with each other.27 And the men,instead of having normal sexual relations with women,burned with lust for each other.Men did shameful things with other men and,as a result,suffered the penalty they so richly deserved.28 WQhen they refused to acknowledge God,he let them do things that should never be done.29 Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness,sin,greed,hate,envy,murder,deception,malicious behavior,and gossip.30 They are backstabbers,haters of God,insolent,proud and boastful.They are forever inventing new ways of sinning,and are disobedient to their parents.31 They refuse to understand,break their promises,and are heartless and unforgiving.32 they are fully aware of God’s death penalty for those who dothese things,yet they go right ahead and do them anyway.And worseyet,they encourage others to do them,too. NLT(letter from Paul to the Romans)

          • Cawmun Cents

            Incidentally these are the apostle Pauls words as translated into modern American english,and not my own.It is not hate speech,and only reflects what Paul was trying to teach the Roman Christians,who seemed to believe much as we do today in this nation that homosexuality is acceptable to God.He was telling them that they were wrong.

  • JUKEBOX

    When Michelle ordered publishers to abandon any idea of dealing with the guy who wrote the book about his homosexual encounters with Barry, this issue was buried by the White House. Given their duplicity on every other campaign promise, and the rumors about Barry and Rahm belonging to a gay bath house in Chicago, I believe there will be some startling revelations about these people in the future. Years ago, Gary Aldrich wrote a book about the Clinton White House, which had some revelations about homosexual incidents in the White House, and considering the lax attitude in this present administration, it is probably worse than the debauchary in any previous Presidencies.

  • Raggs

    I’m surprized that there isn’t a public union formed to support the queers on the tax payers back… Or is there?

  • Bob

    Why should sodomites attend a family event? They do not have families in the true sense of the word, just sick and perverted parodies of families. Next we will be allowing necrophiliacs, pedophiles, and zoophiliacs the same rights as normal people. America must quit catering to perverts and get back on track. It is time to make political correctness a crime worthy of deportation and permanent exile.

    • unreligious

      Actually gay people have mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, and cousins just like everyone else. Yes despite your denial of it, their partners are a part of their families. No matter what you think being gay is a normal expression of sexuality and gay people are normal. Political correctness is just another term for what your mother would have called manners, to bad you never learned any.

      • Bob

        Typical PC drivel – homosexuals are abnormal and people who refuse to see that are one of the reasons this country is slipping into chaos. Homosexuality is condemned by the Bible, and I will believe God’s Word before I believe some PC imbecile such as yourself. If telling the truth is bad manners. then I am guilty of bad manners.

        • Angie

          You hit the nail right on the head, Bob! I am so sick of hearing about gay rights. What about our rights to not have to hear about perversion? I wish they would all go back in the closet!!!

          • http://naver samurai

            So am I. Then you get morons, like Alex here, you claim to be all knowledgeable on the subject and bash anything Christian. I have just one question to ask him, if he has the nads to answer, “What proof and evidence can you provide the proves atheism is accurate and correct?” I’ll even give him a hint, it ain’t there. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jay

            Here here Angie, I’m sick of it also! I think that this issue with gays is just to destabilize society and destroy the family unit, once the desired effect is achieved, the gays will be thrown under the bus! Like the radical feminists, the gay community is to stupid to realize they are just being used!

        • Thomas Alex

          Your so ignorant. Stop spreading your ignorance.

          • http://naver samurai

            Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Take the hint, moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jay

            Stop spreading your perversion, Alex!

        • Thomas Alex

          The bible is a book written by man for man, and god is fake.

          • http://naver samurai

            Still haven’t proven it yet? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jay

            All perverts and degenerates make the same statement in order to enjoy their depraved lifestyles!

      • Firefly

        Would have to disagree that, “No matter what you think being gay is a normal expression of sexuality and gay people are normal”. Gays can be brave, kind, giving and patriotic or nasty SOB’s like anyone else but it goes beyond reason to say that their unfortunate problem is “normal” unless you do not believe that normal and natural are the same. While one can debate morality and sin and religion and a host of other things, sex is natures method of procreation in higher beings. Consequently homosexuality is unnatural! That the Bible says this in no way detracts from the reality of it. Nothing wrong with being unrelgious, just don’t be anti-God as many in the gay community are. There are many who were gay who are now straight, and it was an encounter with the God of the Bible that changed them, as nothing else seems capable of doing so. If you are satified with your situation, life, personality, that is your choice but if you are not then God is available when you need him. Believer’s shouldn’t be to surprised either at the growth of homosexuality in the world as even the Bible says that homosexulity will increase before the world is eventually destroyed. God doesn’t hate gays as Christian Ryan White once said (the 13 year old who died from a HIV blood infected transfusion) because God does not hate in the sense that men do. GOD IS LOVE was said by none one less than Jesus Christ. I have no advice to give other than to say learn about Jesus, what He said and why He lived and if you do you will be the better for it.

        • karolyn

          How do you know “many in the gay community” are anti-God? I have a dear friend who is gay, conservative and avidly Christian.

          • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner
          • http://naver samurai

            How can they say they are Christian and live in rebellion to the Bible? Don’t think so! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jay

            The man is seriously confused, you cannot be both!

          • Firefly

            Karolyn, how do I know the sky is blue or that water is wet? Your question almost makes no sense. You yourself seem to be anti-God. Further down you thank ‘coal miner’ for a post that tries to belittle the Bible with falsehoods to lead astray questioning minds. Why would you thank him for that unless you are only trying to build up your own ego and the idea that you are the only one who knows and understands, and that you reject the Bible and are trying to lead others astray. Sadly, there is a great deal you don’t understand but you could if you truly wanted to do so. Only those who seek God will truly find Him. There are many pretenders in the world today and competing philosophies for the minds of men and women. I would not be worried about the homosexuals. They are a well organized political group that are quite efficient at cramming their demands upon society. Worry about yourself. As for your friend who you say is gay and trying to live the life of a Christian, you yourself should know that it is illogical to use him as an example of all. One person is just that, one person. If he (or she) is truly trying to live the life that God intended then they are not active in the homosexual movement and are living a celebrate life until they discover that God can heal them as he has countless others. God hates no one but if He hates it is only that which is destroying that which He loves, us. Yes, even you.

        • Jay

          Firefly, awesome post dude!

          • http://naver samurai

            I second that motion! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        unreligious… Gay people are sinners; nothing more, nothing less. They are not born that way; they choose to be gay. It’s a choice. Our society frowns on their choice of lifestyle. And God certainly does!

        • karolyn

          Straight down the pipeling from God’s mouth to your ears.

          • 45caliber

            And you don’t believe that God speaks with anyone today? It happens all the time.

            Jesus forgave sins. Then He said, “Go and sin no more.”

            Many sins are specified in the Bible. Those who commit them ask for forgiveness and God will forgive. Those who commit sins and insist the sins are okay will not be forgiven since they didn’t ask for it. That’s in the Bible too.

          • karolyn

            And God even speaks to non-Christians. Go figure.

          • 45caliber

            karolyn:

            Yes, God does speak to non-Christians as well as Christians. Why shouldn’t He? He made all of us after all. The really sad part, though, is that so many of both don’t listen to Him.

          • Karolyn

            45 – How true. Especially since Jesus preached love, and there are so many haters (especially evidenced here).

          • Jay

            Karolyn, Jesus spoke love and He also expressed deep hatred toward the corrupt religious system at that time. Yes, I said hatred! Go figure, Jesus felt hate towards the hypocrites, but not sinners who knew their desperate need for forgiveness! Believe me, God hates as well as He loves, I wouldn’t want to be His enemy! Gays are no more sinners then anyone else, and they to can be forgiven. The same goes for everyone else.

      • http://naver samurai

        Too bad unreligious doesn’t have any either. They are in no way, shape, or form normal, so quit with the PC nonsense. If a man lieth with another man, as he would with a woman, let them die the death. If a woman aslo lieth with another woman, as she would with a man, let her die the death. Leviticus 20:13. You can also look at these:

        Leviticus 18:22
        1 Corinthians 6:9-10
        Romans 1:26-28
        1 Timothy 1:8-11
        Jude 1:7

        There are more, but why say them all. Also since being gay is wrong in the eye’s of God, those that encourage them to do these acts or support there ways are just as guilty of the sin as the sinner themselves. Just read James 14:7. Just another lib, gay loving, baby killing, marxist on this site. Get your facts straight before you post. If you don’t want to read the Bible, then look at this site and weep:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g80tkhow2JY&feature=related

        You’ll be amazed at what you may learn, moron. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Bob… My thoughts were similar. Why would gays even feel comfortable in a family situation? Families are created with a man and woman. Only using unconventional methods by gays would make a family.

      • Bob

        And normal families wouldn’t feel comfortable in the presence of sodomites any more than they would feel comfortable with other perverts such as those who practice child molestation, necrophilia or bestiality.

      • karolyn

        Of course gays feel comfortable in family situations. THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS! They HAVE families. Ridiculous statement.

      • Thomas Alex

        So how do 14% of Heterosexual couples that are infirtle create a family?

        • http://naver samurai

          Many of the ones my wife and I know end up adopting a child. One of my wife’s friends just had herself artificially inseminated (Test tube baby). There are ways around this problem. How do you know that 14% of heterosexual couples can’t produce offspring? You still don’t have the nads to post sources just lib lies, rhetoric, and inuendo. People like you are a disgrace to this nation, if you are from this nation. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Jay

          Who says all infertile straight couples want to create a family? Who says all gay couples want to create a family? The answer of course, in-vetro and adoption! I personally don’t agree that gay couples should be allowed to adopt, just my personal opinion. I have a 10 year old Son and I wouldn’t allow a gay person to babysit Him. Just my two cents…

    • James

      Bob, A noble goal but, after the Lawrence v. Texas decision, homosexuals have every right that others have.

  • Chris

    Here is few shocking facts: First paragraph of Michael Swift in Gay Community News 1987, We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of feeble masculinity, in your schools, in your house of Congress, in your army bunkhouses. CDC update: 1 in 5 gay, bisexual men in US cities has HIV, nearly half are unaware of their infection. The study included 8,153 men who have sex with men in 21 U.S. cities. One is not borm a homosexual one becomes a homosexual. Our govt. is being perverted by perversion. Read Ezekiel 28:14,15,17, Romans 1:24-28 & Corinthians 6:9-10. No matter how hard u fight on earth u may loose when in the grave.

    • karolyn

      And those Biblical passages have been interpreted differently than your commonly-held view.

      • Bob

        Interpreted by liars and apostates who are trying to excuse their sins and gain an audience of people who want to excuse their sins.

        • Karolyn

          Bob – Why can you not accept the fact that there are millions and millions of people who think you are wrong and that they are right? And they just might be right? I know you will never accept that, but why do you get such obvious pleasure out of hating so many? Jesus would cast you out, Mr. holier-than-thou. I do feel sorry for you.

          • http://naver samurai

            Bob is right and you are not. Did you ever think that you may be the one sounding like a person making excuses for them? Since they are pushing their immoral agenda into every place in America, isn’t it logical to believe that since they aren’t normal, so they are encountering resistance? Bob isn’t saying we hate gays, just the things they do. Ergo, hate the sin and not the sinner. How would you know Karolyn? You are an apostate Christian. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jay

            They may also just be dead wrong, Karolyn. I’m going with, they are dead wrong! Just because the majority believes something is right or something wrong does not make it so! Only weak people fall in line with the majority, for obvious fear of being ostracized. I’d rather be ostracized!

      • James

        Karolyn, Jesus said (Mt. 5:17-19): “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one title shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these lesst commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”
        That ‘jot’ means the smallest letter in the alphabet, and ‘tittle’ means the smallest part of a letter.

    • karolyn

      Why does it bother you what other people do? It’s none of your business, and they are not all out to corrupt our youth and take over the country. Get real!

      • 45caliber

        If they aren’t after our youth, why do they say they are? I tend to believe what people say until they expose themselves as liars. I don’t automatically assume that they “really meant something else.”

        • karolyn

          There’s that “they” word again. You can’t judge a whole group by the few. Besides, either a person is gay or they’re not. There’s no such thing as recruitment.

          • Bob

            Then I guess a person is either a murderer or he is not, a rapist or he is not, a pedophile or he is not – none of us can help ourselves at all – woe is me, I am a victim of genetics!! Ridiculous – sodomites are always trying to recruit others for their life of depravity.

          • Patty

            Karolyn – What about the ones that “swing both ways”?

        • 45caliber

          karolyn:

          You really need to try to not be taken in sometimes. They never recruit? Really? They are born that way? Really? They would like to think that – it helps excuse what they do. And they NEED those excuses to justify what they do. When you consider that they have up to a thousand lovers during their lifetime vs. one or two for most straight folks, that is a serious illness right there.

          • Bob

            Karolyn obviously lives in a lieberal alternate reality where good is evil, evil is good, lies are truth, and truth are lies. You can see it in her writing.

          • http://deleted Claire

            I will not berate Karolyn. She believes what she wants to believe, the same as the rest of us do. I personally do not understand the issue of homosexuality, and I do not believe they are born with it. I really think it is a choice. We are responsible for the conduct of our own lives, in essence, we all have a choice. Some choose to live a life of decadence, others choose to live a good life. We are what we have made ourselves and we reap what we sow. I do not approve of homosexuality, and I will not defend it. I prefer the male/female aspect of marriage, etc. and this is the way I am and this is the way I think. If others choose the life of homosexuality, then so be it. Just do not cram it down my throat. I won’t listen to it, and I won’t deal with it. In fact, I am tired of it. As I said before, we have much more important issues concerning America to deal with at this point in time. Narrow-minded when it comes to homosexuality? Yes, I guess I am.

          • Karolyn

            45 – If ANYBODY could tell me why on earth someone would choose to be gay and spend so much of his life in suffering, I just MIGHT think you are right. However, you can’t do that. I have known many gay people and been very close to them – like best friends, so I know of what I speak.

          • karolyn

            I do not know where you get your stats from. Lesbians do not have as many lovers as male homosexuals. It’s a male-female thing. Men, in general, are more sexually active than females. Besides that, there are a great many gays who do not practice indiscriminate sex. Any I have know have been faihful to their partners for long periods of time just like heteros.

          • Jay

            That’s right Bob, she’s totally deluded! She seems to be an expert on the homosexual lifestyle, yet she never provides any sources that would confirm her statements. She just expects us to take her at her word!

        • http://naver samurai

          They also say that all muslims aren’t terrorists. Could that be true also? Just a question for the libs to ponder. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • karolyn

            Of course all Muslims aren’t terrorists! Duh!

      • Jay

        Yes they are, there is ample evidence of that! Just look around. When the family is destroyed, its game over!

        • http://naver samurai

          “As goes the family, so goes the Empire.” Augustus Ceasar shortly before being killed by people who believed the same ways as the lib morons on this site. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Jay

      You got that right Chris, homosexuality is just one of the cancer’s eroding our country, of course, atheism would be the chief of all cancer’s!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        100% agree. Keep up the good fight, fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Carol

    If you think that he tells the truth about anything you have been buffoloed he always speaks out of both sides of his mouth.

  • 45caliber

    Awwwwwww…

    They got their panties in a bunch.

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner
    • Karolyn

      coal miner – Thank you for the link.

    • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

      5)PANTHEISM: Nature, universe, science and religion
      To the rich history of Pantheism, represented by thinkers and readings from …
      http://www.pantheism.net/paul/index.htm – Cached

  • godsester

    I have to agree, that the bible condemns the act of participating in a gay relationship sinful. But let us not forget that each one of us has sinned. Sin is sin whether you are gay, you commit adultery, you exaggerate, lie, kill, are a drunkard, or are obese…God died on that cross for every sin! Hate the sin, love the sinner. Jesus did.

    • Bob

      Each of us sins, but the sodomites refuse to acknowledge that homosexuality is a sin. Without that acknowledgement,repentance, and then a turning away from that abominable lifestyle, there is no forgiveness, therefore there can be no salvation. Those who teach that homosexuality is ok are the ones who are the haters because they allow others to follow the path that leads to eternal suffering. How hateful can you get?

      • Jay

        You have made a very important point Bob! Thank you for that.

      • http://naver samurai

        True that! True that! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Karolyn

      I don’t think that Bob can love the sinner. At least he doesn’t show it by his posts.

    • http://naver samurai

      First Jesus, not God, died on the cross for the forgiveness of sins. Second, to say all have sinned and all fall short of the glory of heaven is also true, but it seems like you’re trying to defend the gays. You can’t call yourself a Christian and live in rebellion to the Bible. Gays are a sexual perversion and will be punished with hellfire and brimstone, unless they forgo their immoral lifestyle and believe in God and accept Jesus as their personal saviour. Enough said. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Thomas Alex

        Interracial marriage is also a sin in the eyes of god, as well as eating shell fish and pig.

        • http://naver samurai

          Thank you Thomas for showing us your biggotry and non exsisting knowledge of the Bible. We all know that when your libs say these things you are out of ammo, in full retreat, and are grasping at straws just to save your own arse. Won’t work this time. We’ve heard to much of this nonsense before from others that have posted on this site. Have to do better than throwing out desperate lies to have a debate, moron! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          P.S. By the way, when was the last time you ate any kind of shellfish, bacon, pork chops, ham, etc? Does that mean you’re going to burn since you did eat these things?

        • Jay

          Now your just pulling things out of your but!

    • Patty

      Do I not recall that it was not ok for a man to lay with a man in the bible, but ok for a woman to lay with another woman? Is that so you guys can watch? :)

      • http://naver samurai

        Read Leviticus 20:13. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

        • Thomas Alex

          Last I checked, religious beliefs were just that. Something you chose to have. Don’t shove your beliefs down our throats. I could care less what your beliefs say about LGBT people. Just like other religions say you are a perversion.

          • karolyn

            Exactly! Laws should not be based on one religion’s views, ignoring all others in the society not inline with those views.

          • http://naver samurai

            Remember this moron, “In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government ought to be insturcted. No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.” Preface, Webster’s Dictionary 1828. This is the truth of this matter as a whole. You talk about may beliefs? What about you and your atheist beliefs you have posted here, hmmm? The same can be said about you, moron! You are a coward and traitor to this nation. Just think, starting January 2013, people like you will be a thing of the past. Christians and patriots are going to win this fight against the wave of atheist secular humanism. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • http://naver samurai

            Sorry Karolyn, but morals, ethics, and laws are always based on religious beliefs. Our laws are based on the 10 Commandments, so what’s your point? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

          • Jay

            Thomas and Karolyn, you have both been seriously brainwashed! I cannot accept anything you say at face value. Your logic is suspect and your bias is obvious. I’m always saddened when I see that happen to people!

          • Jay

            Thomas and Karolyn, you are both a couple of intellectual twits!!! Our social legal system is based on Biblical old testament laws, the ten commandments. Are you two that ignorant that you would not know that simple fact?

    • James

      Godsester, Read my above Jesus quote on the Old Testament Law. Jesus took the blame for all sin, and even forgave minor sins in this life, but that didn’t mean the abrogation of capital offenses. And 1 John 5:16 reads: “If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.”
      A sin unto death is a capital offense, and homosexual acts are certainly capital offenses. (See Leviticus 20:13.) But, in spite of that, the Supreme Court, in Lawrence v. Texas, held that such acts no longer are crimes. (U.S. criminal law was based upon biblical sins.)

  • Thomas Alex

    What causes a person to have a particular sexual orientation?

    There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.

    • Karolyn

      I’m no scientist, but when an extra x chromosome is present in the development of the fetus, more feminism is exhibited by men. That would seem to be a contributing factor. That’s just llgic at work, and it is fact.

      • Karolyn

        logic

      • James

        Karolyn, However they got to be that way is irrelevant. God wanted them removed from His kingdom here. I’m sure that before this is over, we’ll experience why He ordained that.

      • Jay

        Karolyn, you are right, you are not a scientist!

    • http://naver samurai

      It’s a choice, plain and simple. Enough said. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • Jay

      Not only is science incapable to answer the origin of sexual preference, as well, it should not be permitted in the discussion. Why? Because science is an inefficient tool to answer such a question, also, does not posses the breadth and length that is required for such a topic. Science is a very limited and impotent tool when it comes to issues of ethics!!! You people seem to think that science is God, it will answer all my questions, Fools!!!

      • Firefly

        Now, Jay, even if people are fools as in what the Bible says, “The fool says in his heart, ‘there is no God’” it also says not to call them that. They are to prayed for, pitied, and even avoided if necessary. Some have the disease of believing they are gods and you are wasting words on those.

    • Firefly

      What is clearly missing in your discussion is the spiritual component in homosexuality, and that is a component that “science” is incapable of studying as it is non-material. It’s results can be felt, experienced, observed, but it cannot be weighed and quantified and so is not an area for scientific observation.

  • http://facebook Anna Onat

    Tell me something there are those of you who don’t believe in God, but tell me why MAN and WOMAN were made for each other? To create more humans-babies. Not woman to woman or man to man. That is sickness.

  • http://marcum1@wildblue.net coal miner

    1)ScienceDaily News
    ScienceDaily News. Breaking science news and articles on global warming, extrasolar planets, stem cells, bird flu, autism, nanotechnology, dinosaurs, …
    http://www.livephysics.com/latest-physics-news/science-daily-news.html – Cached

    • Jay

      coal miner, stick your links in your rear end!

    • http://naver samurai

      What does this have to do with the topic at hand? Stay on subject, moron. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Cawmun Cents

    The”sin unto death”which Christ spoke of is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.It is the refusal of Gods gift of salvation through Jesus Christ.Christ gives the Holy Spirit to those who believe.To refuse to believe is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.It is the only sin for which a person cannot be forgiven.If you do not know of the Holy Spirit in your life then you probably do not really believe.You must believe that Christ paid the penalty.He,and He alone bore the guilt for your sins.That is what makes you a believer,and it is a gift that cannot be earned.God gives mercy through Christ.

  • http://www.funsharing.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=219160 Karrie Hanbury

    300 million? Too many lawyers are bottom scum, We would be better off if 90% of lawyers did their mopping up on a floor stead of in a court room. There is something to be said for q brace of pistols and a pair of seconds at dawn. If the bastard were offed more then a few would cheer. By the way I love the yogurt, I just offed one. CherryMmmm.

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