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Food Storage Now!

July 8, 2010 by  

Food Storage Now!

I hazard to guess that not more than 10 percent of our readers could live more than a few days on their stored food and supplies.

Storing food is something that we have to do before we need it. Think now, if a catastrophe of some kind were to occur today—say an earthquake, tornado or terrorist attack—and you needed to begin using your stored food, where would you be?

Do you have more than a couple of days supply on hand? If not, you could be in trouble when disaster strikes. Because once the catastrophe occurs it’s too late to begin storing food.

Americans are used to having plenty of food. Most can’t imagine not being able to go to the store to get food of some sort. But the typical grocery store has about two day’s supply of food in stock at any given time. So, just a short-term interruption in the supply chain could cause hardship and panic among the populace.

It truly takes vision to understand that there could come a time when the supply of food suddenly ends—whether for a few days or for a long period of time—and planning for the future is essential, especially now.

I have long urged you to store food. As for myself, I have stored food for more than 40 years. I rotate and eat out of it, except the vacuum sealed foods that I bought from the Mormons. I have checked it through the years. It has held well.

I have lost a few cans of salmon due to age, but there is no telling how much I have saved because prices were much lower through the years than they are now.

Now to the point: In my opinion we now face more than a probability of much higher prices, scarcity and resulting social problems.

Can we not imagine that an honest man will steal and even plunder if he and his family are hungry?

Agriculture is one of the very few sectors globally that currently faces supply shortages. There is the distinct possibility that this century will see desperate struggles for food and water.

Rising food prices will cause extreme hunger and famine. This will lead to social unrest, revolution and wars.

Does anyone doubt that the regime in the United States will cause extreme hardship because of the collapsing exchange value of paper money? Note that they do not warn the people to protect themselves.

I have been on an island now for some time. I have noticed very high prices and runs on grocery stores on certain days of the week. Still, probably not more than a few can see the negative trends. They still can’t visualize disaster.

Have you ever really been hungry? It is far better to have stored food on hand—even if you have excess food stored—and not ever need it than not to have any food stored and one day be hungry. Food storage may not guarantee that you won’t be hungry, but not storing food will almost certainly guarantee there will be hunger in your future.

It’s a good idea to have at least three day’s supply of canned and/or dried foods available for each member of the family in case of emergency. That would be nine meals each.

Of course, more is better. But we recommend this as a starting point. From there you can add a little more each time you go shopping, setting your sights on having enough for each family member for a week, then two and so on.

It’s also a good idea to store water for emergency situations. Minimum requirements are two gallons per person per day—more if you live in a warmer climate.

I also believe strongly that investing in agriculture companies now is similar to investing in oil at $17 a barrel in 2002. Look up Agro Terra Ltd. and Agro Terra Partners.

If you want to learn more about what foods to store and how to prepare for a crisis situation you can order our book, How to Survive the Collapse of Civilization. It covers practical, low-cost strategies for coping with global epidemics, terrorist attacks, electrical grid disruptions, food and water storage and much more.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Al Sieber

    I agree with you Bob. I only have beans, rice and flour stored. but I do have a garden and chickens. I live in the high desert mountains and it hasn’t gone below 40 degrees at night the last 3 winters, we have a year round growing season. you should always be prepared, I believe something devastating is headed our way.

  • http://PersonalLiberty Ruby

    I have been buying extra at the grocery store and like Bob I use out of it. I have been canning more each year and always have left-overs from the last year. So I use the oldest year and keep it going. But I need to do some dehydrating. You can dehydrate just about anything.I think that would be a good way to store meats, veggies and fruits. I do keep extra salmon. But if someone were to break into your home, what about a secret storage place? God bless us all. We must really pray.

  • JC

    It makes good sense to store at least 30 to 90 days supply of food, water and the means to defend yourself when our fragile and overly controlled system can be effected by almost anything.
    If the trains stop running for 3 days the shelves will be empty.
    If the power goes down for 24-48 hours the shelves will be empty.
    If we have a false flag or real terrorist attack the shelves will be empty.
    If we have a run on the banks the shelves will be empty.
    If we have a natural disaster…well you get the picture.

    We all saw what happened at Katrina, the various government agencies were completely disorganized and jockeying for funding…so do NOT count on a government that seems hell bent on destroying us anyway.

  • http://www.charter.net James A Graham

    When WW III Started – 1979

    This is not very long, but very informative You have to read the catalogue of events in this brief piece. Then, ask yourself how anyone can take the position that all we have to do is bring our troops home from Iraq, reset the snooze alarm, go back to sleep, and no one will ever bother us again. In case you missed it, World War III began in November 1979…

    US Navy Captain Ouimette is the Executive Officer at Naval Air Station, Pensacola , Florida . Here is a copy of the speech he gave last month. It is an accurate account of why we are in so much trouble today and why this action is so necessary.

    AMERICA NEEDS TO WAKE UP!

    That’s what we think we heard on the 11th of September 2001 (When more than 3,000 Americans were killed) and maybe it was, but I think it should have been ‘Get Out of Bed!’ In fact, the alarm clock has been buzzing since 1979 and we have continued to hit the snooze button and roll over for a few more minutes of peaceful sleep since then.

    It was a cool fall day in November 1979 in a country going through a religious and political upheaval when a group of Iranian students attacked and seized the American Embassy in Tehran . This seizure was an outright attack on American soil; it was an attack that held the world’s most powerful country hostage and paralyzed a Presidency The attack on this sovereign U. S. Embassy set the stage for events to follow for the next 25 years.

    America was still reeling from the aftermath of the Vietnam experience and had a serious threat from the Soviet Union when then, President Carter, had to do something. He chose to conduct a clandestine raid in the desert. The ill-fated mission ended in ruin, but stood as a symbol of America’s inability to deal with terrorism

    America ‘s military had been decimated and down sized since the end of the Vietnam War. A poorly trained, poorly equipped and poorly organized military was called on to execute a complex mission that was doomed from the start.

    Shortly after the Tehran experience, Americans began to be kidnapped and killed throughout the Middle East . America could do little to protect her citizens living and working abroad. The attacks against US soil continued.

    In April of 1983 a large vehicle packed with high explosives was driven into the US Embassy compound in Beirut When it explodes, it kills 63 people The alarm went off again and America hit the Snooze Button once more.

    Then just six short months later in 1983 a large truck heavily laden down with over 25 00 pounds of TNT smashed through the main gate of the US Marine Corps headquarters in Beirut and 241 US servicemen are killed. America mourns her dead and hit the Snooze Button once more.

    Two months later in December 1983, another truck loaded with explosives is driven into the US Embassy in Kuwait , and America continues her slumber.

    The following year, in September 1984, another van was driven into the gate of the US Embassy in Beirut and America slept.

    Soon the terrorism spreads to Europe . In April 1985 a bomb explodes in a restaurant frequented by US soldiers in Madrid

    Then in August 1985 a Volkswagen loaded with explosives is driven into the main gate of the US Air Force Base at Rheine-Main, 22 are killed and the snooze alarm is buzzing louder and louder as US interests are continually attacked.

    Fifty-nine days later in 1985 a cruise ship, the Achille Lauro is hijacked and we watched as an American in a wheelchair is singled out of the passenger list and executed.

    The terrorists then shift their tactics to bombing civilian airliners when they bomb TWA Flight 840 in April of 1986 that killed 4 and the most tragic bombing, Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie , Scotland in 1988, killing 259.

    The wake up alarm is getting louder and louder.

    The terrorists decide to bring the fight to America . In January 1993, two CIA agents are shot and killed as they enter CIA headquarters in Langley , Virginia

    The following month, February 1993 , a group of terrorists are arrested after a rented van packed with explosives is driven into the underground parking garage of the World Trade Center in New York City . Six people are killed and over 1000 are injured. Still this is a crime and not an act of war? The Snooze alarm is depressed again.

    Then in November 1995 a car bomb explodes at a US military complex in Riyadh Saudi Arabia killing seven service men and women.

    A few months later in June of 1996, another truck bomb explodes only 35 yards from the US military compound in Dhahran , Saudi Arabia . It destroys the Khobar Towers , a US Air Force barracks, killing 19 and injuring over 500. The terrorists are getting braver and smarter as they see that America does not respond decisively.

    They move to coordinate their attacks in a simultaneous attack on two US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania . These attacks were planned with precision. They kill 224. America responds with cruise missile attacks and goes back to sleep.

    The USS Cole was docked in the port of Aden, Yemen for refueling on 12 October 2000 , when a small craft pulled along side the ship and exploded killing 17 US Navy Sailors. Attacking a US War Ship is an act of war, but we sent the FBI to investigate the crime and went back to sleep.

    And of course you know the events of 11 September 2001. Most Americans think this was the first attack against US soil or in America . How wrong they are. America has been under a constant attack since 1979 and we chose to hit the snooze alarm and roll over and go back to sleep.

    In the news lately we have seen lots of finger pointing from every high official in government over what they knew and what they didn’t know. But if you’ve read the papers and paid a little attention I think you can see exactly what they knew. You don’t have to be in the FBI or CIA or on the National Security Council to see the pattern that has been developing since 1979.

    I think we have been in a war for the past 25 years and it will continue until we as a people decide enough is enough. America needs to ‘Get out of Bed’ and act decisively now. America has been changed forever. We have to be ready to pay the price and make the sacrifice to ensure our way of life continues. We cannot afford to keep hitting the snooze button again and again and roll over and go back to sleep.

    After the attack on Pearl Harbor , Admiral Yamamoto said ‘… it seems all we have done is awakened a sleeping giant.’ This is the message we need to disseminate to terrorists around the world.

    This is not a political thing to be hashed over in an election year, this is an AMERICAN thing. This is about our Freedom and the Freedom of our children in years to come.

    If you believe in this please forward it to as many people as you can especially to the young people and all those who dozed off in history class and who seem so quick to protest such a necessary military action. If you don’t believe it, just delete it and go back to sleep.

    • Eva

      James thanks for the history lesson. Important for our youth to know this stuff as well us older folks. I graduated HS in 1979 and I have to admit up until the late mid 1990′s I don’t remember any of what you mentioned. I was in my 20′s in the 1980′s who is really paying attention at that age? I will be sending your history lesson to my son, who is now in he’s 20′s and his name is also James.

      Thank you

      • helen

        ~~in response to James Graham’s excellent column and to Eva–
        I agree, Graham’s journalist abilities, and his keen recollection of events are admirable.. I am printing and emailing his column to all on my mailing lists. He has done us a service to present these facts.
        Now, to Eva:
        … “Important for our youth to know this stuff as well us older folks. I graduated HS in 1979 and I have to admit up until the late mid 1990′s I don’t remember any of what you mentioned. I was in my 20′s in the 1980′s who is really paying attention at that age?”
        ~~Eva, it depended on who your teachers were in those days? I would ask: Did your parents make an effort to ‘fortify’ the scanty or, as is the case now, nonexistent, American History classes in your schools? A little late for that — you were an adult.. I’m glad you’re catching up now..and realize the importance of passing that knowledge to your son. Being an American is something to be proud of.. we truly are an exceptional people. We’ve allowed ourselves to be ”’politically corrected”’ and duped into a state of lethargy and stupidity, but I see a silver lining.. You may have been robbed of a great experience but you, and many more like you, are now realizing that, and are coming together as a unified group of Compatriots! I firmly believe that, with effort and determination we can retake our Nation and restore it to its once great stature.. we can pass along to our childen the Strength, Pride and Glory that once was America!

    • Betty Rotha

      How do I forward this. I have children and grandchildren who need to read it.

      • Angel-Wanna-Be

        Betty, copy_then paste into an email, or highlight, print, then make copies.

      • libertytrain

        Under Article Tools toward the top on the right, use the “Share This” line to email, etc.

    • http://www.sightedmoon.com Joseph F Dumond

      In the DVD at http://www.sightedmoon.com/?page_id=251 which you can watch for free I show you why these things James has pointed out are happening and will continue to happen. It is based on the Sabbatical and Jubilee cycles.

      1995 was the 49th year Jubilee and 1996 was the first year of the next cycle. The curse that goes with this cycle is Terrorism. It is followed by sever weather and drought, then Earthquakes Famines and Pestilences and this is then followed by war and then captivity and starvation and canibaalism.

      Much of what James has said is true. When you line it up with the Curses of teh Sabbatical and Jubilee cycles it will scare the pants off of you. Watch the DVD and then decide.

    • Mike Stilfield

      A good history lesson. I wish more people would listen, wake up and take action. I would only add one thig in the form of a question and the answer. What is the “one” common denominator to all these attacks? They were “all” carried out by Muslims. Can anyone seriously and honestly say Islam is a religion of peace? We are at war fellow Americans, allies and Christians. All of western civilization and in particular, Chritianity is at war and most don’t even realize it. Islam is as much a threat to world peace and prosperity than communism.

  • http://www.oathkeepers.org Martin

    Once a month I buy supplies from one section of our families emergency list
    Food/Water
    Guns/Ammunition
    Fuels/Batteries
    Clothing/Shelter
    Transportation/Communications

    This way I know that we are at least somewhat prepared and able to defend ourselves if an attack or disaster was to happen. I do not spend much usually between 100 and 300 depending on which area I am boosting up
    Think about this… How would YOU get your family out of a disaster zone or scavange for supplies if there was no fuel or electricity?
    For less then 800 I built a battery powered Go-Kart and trailer with 10hp electric motor with a solar recharge system. It’s not much but it will get my family and stuff 25 miles per charge at full power and almost 70 miles at 1/3rd power.

  • Angel-Wanna-Be

    I started buying extra canned goods, about 6 months ago. I make my own bread on a regular basis. Flour(Air tight) is good for about a year. I have a chest freezer that is at least half full if ice bags, if electricity goes, that will at least keep things cold for a lttle while. I’ve stock piled oil for oil lamps and I make my own tapered and poured tallow candles. The wood stove will be finished by august. we’ve already started on the wood pile.__If we never need to use emergency preparedness, then we have extra. If we do need it, at least it’ll keep us going for a while. I don’t trust this administration at all, and I too think we’re headed for tougher times.
    God Bless America.

    • 45caliber

      If you have a good freezer, you can store flour and other grains far longer. Keep in mind that the freezer will be useless once the power is lost but then you will still have your year or so of storage on top of the time it has sat in the freezer. A chest type freezer will hold far more supplies than an upright will.

    • Ron Rosland

      You sound pretty well prepared, though watch out for the canned food. Canned food is loaded with salt as a preservative. The salt in canned food turns off the appeal very quickly. What about dried fruits and vegetables, natural home made sour kraut, legumes, assortments of grain, a heavy duty good production grain/corn grinder and such?

    • Angel-Wanna-Be

      BTW, ALONG WITH FOOD CANNING, YOU CAN ALSO PULL GREEN TOMATOES, WRAP EACH SEPARETLY IN NEWSPAPER, PLACE IN A COOL DARK PLACE,(CAVES AND PUMP ROOMS) THEY SHOULD CARRY YOU THROUGH, TIL AT LEAST CHRISTMAS. NOT SURE ABOUT AREAS, THAT ARE WARM ALL THE TIME.__CHECK OFTEN

  • JC

    Froma a survivor of the seige at Sarajevo:

    100 Items to Disappear First

    1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy…target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
    2. Water Filters/Purifiers
    3. Portable Toilets
    4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 – 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
    5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
    6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
    7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
    8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
    9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
    10. Rice – Beans – Wheat
    11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
    12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
    13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY – note – food grade if for drinking.
    14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won’t heat a room.)
    15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
    16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
    17. Survival Guide Book.
    18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
    19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
    20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
    21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
    22. Vitamins
    23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
    24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
    25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
    26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
    27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
    28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
    29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
    30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
    31. Milk – Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
    32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
    33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
    34. Coleman’s Pump Repair Kit
    35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
    36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
    37. First aid kits
    38. Batteries (all sizes…buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
    39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
    40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
    41. Flour, yeast & salt
    42. Matches. {“Strike Anywhere” preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
    43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
    44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
    45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
    46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, “No. 76 Dietz” Lanterns
    47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
    48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting – if with wheels)
    49. Men’s Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
    50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
    51. Fishing supplies/tools
    52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
    53. Duct Tape
    54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
    55. Candles
    56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
    57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
    58. Garden tools & supplies
    59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
    60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
    61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
    62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
    63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
    64. Bicycles…Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
    65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
    66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
    67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
    68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
    69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
    70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
    71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
    72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
    73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
    74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
    75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
    76. Reading glasses
    77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
    78. “Survival-in-a-Can”
    79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
    80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
    81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
    82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
    83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
    84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
    85. Lumber (all types)
    86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
    87. Cots & Inflatable mattress’s
    88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
    89. Lantern Hangers
    90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
    91. Teas
    92. Coffee
    93. Cigarettes
    94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
    95. Paraffin wax
    96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
    97. Chewing gum/candies
    98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
    99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
    100. Goats/chickens

    http://www.thepowerhour.com/news/items_disappearfirst.htm

    • Al Sieber

      JC, thanks for the list, I’m way behind.

      • JC

        Your welcome Al. In your case, living in the Mountains, I’d make one more recommendation. Set up alarms on trails. Use fishing line attached to cans of rocks or some such device to warn you of people’s presence.

        • Al Sieber

          Thanks JC, I have 2 wireless video cameras, night vision, 5 wireless sensors, 2 dogs, and plenty of firearms.

          • txarchie

            Would you mind sharing the make & model numbers of your security equipment?

        • meteorlady

          Thanks for the list – I have started a garden for veggies and herbs. I have a lot of the stuff you say, but am a little behind as I never really thought about some of the things you list.

    • Angel-Wanna-Be

      JC, Great List_Thanks!

      • JC

        You’re welcome also. Please note however that the list says nothing about defending yourself. Make sure you have that covered as well.

        • Angel-Wanna-Be

          jc, already covered!

        • JC

          Yeah…it’s probably not necessary to point that out to an “American: ;)

        • 45caliber

          An excellent item I’ve missed on the list are bow and arrows. They aren’t hard to use and aren’t that expensive. If you learn to make arrows, they are replaceable as they are used up. You can get supplies once you know how. Many archery clubs or stores can show you how to make them. Keep in mind you will need extra strings for the bow as well.

          • vicki

            arrows are also reusable and repairable.

          • DROPOUT2001

            vicki says:
            July 8, 2010 at 4:20 pm
            arrows are also reusable and repairable

            Good point, Vicki. And after you remove one from a marauding drug dealer you can also take his Uzi and ammo. Just being practical.

          • MikeC

            Great idea, 45!

            Saw a video on YouTube. This guy converted a slingshot, by adding a whisker bisque. He could then use arrows to hunt and defend. Great and cheap idea! Stay safe!

          • Curt

            WASP SPRAY!!! Stock pile it. Great for self protection, much more effective then pepper spray. It also can double as fire starter/flame thrower and bug killer.

    • CM

      Wow! Great list! I thought I was doing good, but little do I know!
      Thank you! I’ve ordered some food through Emergency Essentials but I wish they had organic. Being on an Island in Alaska we are pretty survival minded, but have a long way to go!

    • Richard Pawley

      You might consider a comfort bicyle for local suburban transportation too. It can be hooked up to an alternator for a source of 12 volt electricity too, if you don’t have any solar panels.

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      Don’t forget about crossbows. They’re much cheaper than guns, you can buy them online, and they’re fun to target practice with. Could come in handy in a siege situation. And unlike bullets, you can make your own arrows once you understand how the simple technology works.

      • JC

        Excellent Point! Not to mention they are “quiet”.

        • Claire

          JC–they are quiet alright, but you better have good aim.

    • http://yahoo Harold Coleman

      Very good list, lot of thought there.
      However being an old retarted cop, would recommend small and not so small firearms and a good supply of ammo.
      Ammo and even old junk guns, like liquor can be traded in time of disaster.
      Whatever bs is put forth-fact still remains, if you have a firearm you are a citizen. If you do not have a firearm, you are a victim in waiting.

      • 45caliber

        You are quite correct. You can buy metal and plastic ammo cans from most gun stores that can be used to safely store extra boxes of ammo. And since it can be used as trade goods, you can never have too much.

        • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

          The best ammo cans are the old ones that you get from army surplus stores. They are totally airtight, and can stand up to the most humid conditions.

    • John R

      I would add more in the way of medical supplies AND a first aid guide/booklet. Aspirin and pain pills are always good barter items as are packets of coffee and tea. Let’s all keep adding to the list…no ideas are too trite or silly!

      • Sheila Reynolds

        Lots of aspirin (to avoid, stroke, heart attack, and fever/inflamation), Hydrogen Peroxide, rubbing alcohol, witch hazel,triple antibiotic creme, and sterile bandages. Try growing aloe plants, echinacea, and roses(rose hips high in Vit. C). Great list J.C. Thanks

      • momof4

        How about a hand operated wheat grinder, and charcoal incase electricity fails. You can always cook on the grill.

    • http://PersonalLiberty Ruby

      Wow,J C this is a great idea. You are a blessing. I will keep this list and work on it until I have all of these stocked.

      God Bless You and we must pray this never happens.

    • bmwsid

      One iten not on the list that should be, is SALT! ()and chocolate!)

      • Scott Brown

        Absolutely, and it’s a good trade item in inland areas as well, where deficiencies of trace iodine causes goiter–thyroid enlargement–over time. A word of caution, however, “ordinary” table salt is anything but. It’s been bleached, demineralized, had iodine re-added, and has added chemicals to reduce clumping. If you consider Wonder Bread to actually be “bread,” you’ll probably be quite happy with Morton’s Salt as “salt.”

        A far better alternative is tan-colored, mined, unrefined sea salt from old sea beds (like, pre-Jurassic). No pollutants, much better flavor, and dozens of trace minerals including its orginal iodine. One brand available is Redmond RealSalt from Utah (www.realsalt.com), though of course there are others (and, beware!, also some bull—- imitations, as with everything else). Natural sea salt is to common table salt as Ezekiel Bread* is to processed white bread. Which would you rather attempt to survive on?

        Compared to white “table” salt, this choice isn’t cheap but, hey, it’s your survival store, friend. Oh, needless to say, you needn’t rotate it…this stuff obviously has a shelf-life of forever. And you can brush your teeth with it in a pinch.

        *”Take also unto thee wheat, and barley, and beans, and lentils, and millet, and spelt, and put them in one vessel, and make bread of it”–Ez.4:9.

        (Also you might consider grinding dried lentils and brown rice in a 1-to-2 ratio, adding sea salt and aluminum-free baking powder for rough and ready, high-protein flapjacks. Top with natural preserves, raw honey, real maple syrup, or organic blackstrap molasses [rich in potassium, calcium, iron]. A substantial breakfast to keep you going for hours. Fry up enough to last you all day if you’re on the run.)

    • Marlene

      I have been doing this for a couple of years now…some months with more zeal than others but always adding something to the crisis room. I haven’t read about (or I have forgotten) tuna in oil (vs water)….can you enlighten me?

      • Scott Brown

        No, unless they have a longer shelf life (?) or you think your diet requires the oil. You might consider learning to like sardines, instead (trust me, by week 3 they’ll start looking mighty tasty). Lower on the food chain, far less mercury poisoning (the last thing you want to do during a period of nutritional shortage is give your system deadly toxins to fight off). Also way cheaper.

        As for the oil, fish which comes packed in sild, which is a Norwegian fish oil (from herring), makes dietary sense. Can’t speak for whatever other oils the canneries might be using.

        On the broader subject of “acquired tastes” (my girlfriends have nearly all said of my enjoying sardines: “Eeewww!”), all acquired taste is just that, acquired. When it comes down to survival, we’ll probably all have to learn some new ones.

        Case in point, I read of an avid hiker went out with friends on week-long mountain treks, humping all their food, including emergency rations. Halfway through, most of his friends would have devoured all their emergency trail mix and jerky, so anyone breaking an ankle and having to await rescue would be in deep doo-doo. When they asked him why he never succumbed to similar gustatory urges he reached into his pack and pulled out a package of perfectly nutritious dog food, said laconically: “Emergency rations.”

    • Anthony

      Great List – I would add Hemp Clothing. It lasts forever and holds up under just about any condition.

      What about extra winter clothing? Living in the warmer climates will be crowded.

  • Sylvia Rangel

    Thank you Bob. I agree 100%.

    God Bless America.

  • SOPHIA

    I have always been one to store food. Here in the midwest US we have had snowstorms, ice storms and drifting snow that has kept us home bound for days. We have eaten from food storage, kept warm without electricity for days and cooked on open fire. This is just common sense to me. Prepare even if only for the acts of Mother Nature, even if you don’t think that the economy and govt is going to go really bad.

  • Teresa Miller

    I would get some mylar bags and seal them with a iron if you can, to store your food in. Some food grade buckets with oxygen obsobers. Some medical supplies. If no wood stove maybe a kerosene heater. Make sure you crack open a window to venalate room. Get some nonfat dry milk.

  • Shortround

    Hay Guys, You make all these prep.. ONE BIG RULE, Keep your mouth shut about it, When hard time comes, someone will remember and try to take it away, so quiet about, Just a hint. May God Bless all of you that are helping your self a head of time, Remember, “He says He help those that help themself’s to do it right.

    • Scott Brown

      Two answers to that, Shorty. The short one, you notice how many people here also make reference to ammo stores and keeping their powder dry? What do you imagine they plan to use this ammo for when people come to take what they have stored?

      Longer answer: I too have considered the wisdom of advising others to store food, thus telegraphing that I am doing so. The conclusion I’ve come to is this: The more like-minded people I can convince to prepare, the better. Why?

      1. Darwinian culling of naysayers, fools and government-reliant leeches will improve the remaining population mix.

      2. Self-defending communities of self-reliant citizens will be better able to survive and resist threats from without. These are the sort of neighbors I want around me and with whom I communicate now.

      3. As for those who plan to come and take any stores I’ve had the foresight to establish and maintain, they pretty much also know I’ve prepared for them, as well. If the apocalypse does come, after the first few days/weeks/months, it will be obvious who has prepared, because they will still be standing. By the same reasoning it will also be obvious who it is that intends to remain standing even in the face of marauding predators. Not speaking out now will not protect anyone from marauders later. Human predators are nothing new to the species.

    • Bob Robertson

      I once tried to talk a man into getting prep’d. He declined vigorously. I then asked him what was he going to feed his family not if but when TWGTSHTF, he politely told he would remember that I had prepared. Something to think about…

  • http://msn s.melvin

    Well IT IS THHEY SAME OLD SONG>>>>>FEAR FEAR FEAR the FIRST HORSEMEN!!! IN 1960 THE ALARM WAS INCASE OF NUCLEAR ATTACK..store FOOd and water for 6 months….Build a fallout selther…WELL “IF” it did happen …after you come out of your sehlter….there would be nothing…nothing…no hospital to treat you (DOCTORA all died and there is NO cure..etc…etc. HORISHIMA and NAGASAGI…..look it up on the computer!
    beside good example’KATHARINA and today day 80 “OILSPLI” so where is the TRUE” we send man to the “MOON”, but we cannot care for our citizen?

    • Paul

      You are an example of the “citizens” who assume no responsibility for your actions, and or lack of. You MUST be a Liberal slacker, totally dependent on your “GOVERNMENT” to take care of you and your family, instead of taking the initiative, as conservative people tend to. But hey, that’s part of your entitlement, right?

      Suppose there is not bomb like Hiroshima or Nagasaki, but a civil war or lockdowns where you cannot be in the streets because only murderers and looters are out there. Suppose a hurricane hits a city with intelligent people, unlike those who stayed in a city below sea level during Katrina… the damage would be substantial and it would be days before help was available still.

      I’m sure this was a waste of time. You people never learn.

      • wasadoc

        I got you covered. Told my wife some months ago that we might be having the kids and grandkids coming to stay with us. I have two acres and that will grow a lot of food. Even at 70, I am still a survivor and still capable of “insuring” my own family. Would hate to see 11 people in this house, but if need be.

        • Angel-Wanna-Be

          wasadoc, me too__told both our kids, and they’re families,if something happens, bring what you can and come home, there is safety in numbers.

    • sheila carter

      OR S. MELVIN, SUPPOSE YOU DIDN’T PREPARE FOR THE WORST IN THIS DREADFUL TIME AND SUPPOSE YOU WERE FORCED INTO THE STREETS TO RUN AWAY FROM BAD PEOPLE AND YOUR RUNNING, KNOCKING ON DOORS, “HELP ME PLEASE, I WAS ILL PREPARED BECAUSE I’M AN IDIOT”, AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT YOU’VE KNOCKED ON A COLD BLOODED AMERICANS DOOR (LIKE MINE) WHO……SLAMS IT IN YOUR FACE, WHAT THEN? DO YOU SUPPOSE THAT THAT IF PEOPLE IN OKLAHOMA HAD A BOMB SHELTER OR SOME KIND OF UNDERGROUND SHELTER, THEY WOULD’VE BEEN SAVED FROM THOSE HORRIBLE TORNADOES? YOUR MOM NEVER TOLD YOU, “IT’S BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN, THAN SORRY”, BUT OBVIOUSLY YOUR ALREADY SORRY. SOMETIMES PEOPLE NEED FEAR TO WAKE THEIR BUTTS UP, BUT, YOU MY FRIEND WILL PROBABLY BE IN A SOUND SLEEP FOREVER!!!!

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      s.melvin, it looks like you’ve been text-messaging too much. You can no longer write in basic English. Post again when you can come up with a coherent sentance.

    • vicki

      Hey s.melvin there’s a guy here asking for you. Says his name is Darwin. :)

  • http://msn s.melvin

    By the WAY SECOND toughs.YOU WOULDNOT be working for the USDA or the GIANT groceries Warehouses, the BIG FARMERS ..that got the 63% of the farmbills MONEY ( subtizides) August 2008 ….THAT “LIVE IN MANNHATTAN that is 1400 FARMERS..has ANYBODY seen “A FARM” in MANHATTAN n.Y. AMERICA..
    COULD it BEE they want to clear-out the WAREHOUSE ?????and give the “POOR” more CANNED GOODS? We SENOIR NEED FRESH FOOD NOT ANOTHER CAN.Thank to the VOLUNTEERS …but eoungh is enough!ORGANIC is the future ..GO GREEN svae your life ….

    • Paul

      Put down the bong.

      • Cliffystones

        …………and turn on spell check!

  • mike geremia

    Boy Scout motto: BE PREPARED—– don’t forget guns a nd ammo………………….

    • Yvan

      You been wathing too many bad movies my frend.

  • Jane (Nana) Smith

    Most canned food has so much junk in it I really don’t want to eat it. I know it is certainly better than starving so I do keep some on hand, but I don’t refresh it because I won’t eat it UNLESS I am starving!! Read labels – MSG in all soups – HFC in all kinds of stuff! I’m a senior and a heart patient and my husband has diabetes. Not much in the canned line that won’t kill us eventually. Where is the source for the Mormon food?

  • Stephen Mason

    OMG! A black man is in the white house! Run for the hills!

    I have unsubscribed from all this claptrap because I am sick and tired of the mindless paranoia – Oh! And also, all the profiteering from the mindless paranoia. I wonder… Is it typically American to be so lily-livered and prone to hysteria? I hope not. You fanatics really cause me to question my patriotism – and my ancestors WERE the founding fathers. They would be ashamed by all the cowardice exhibited here – as am I.

    This country was founded on LIBERAL principles, and don’t forget it.

    • Paul

      Your post makes me also question your patriotism. If you would forget about color of skin long enough to think like a self sufficient MAN, you would realize the intelligence behind having a backup generator in hurricane alley.

      If all Americans thouguht like you, through history, we would be speaking Russian now.

      • Scott Brown

        Or we would be whispering ghosts.

    • JC

      You’re probably right Stephen. All you really need is hope.
      You should put one of those Obama circle logo things in your front window and let everyone know where you stand.
      Stand up and be counted Dammit! Yes you can Yes you can…

      Just don’t knock on my door and ask for anything.

      • Paul

        Right on!
        Don’t prepare and knock those who do. But don’t knock on my door either. I’m not Barack Obama and you’re not entitled to jack [word removed].

    • sheila carter

      WHATEVER STEPHEN MASON! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH “A BLACK MAN”, IT HAS TO DO WITH LET’S SEE….UMMMM…..WELL HE’S DONE NOTHING ABOUT AZ. ASKING FOR HELP WITH IMMIGRATION EXCEPT SLAP US IN THE FACE BY SAYING HE WON’T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, EXCEPT SUE AND HE’S SITTING BACK LETTING THE OIL JUST RUN AND RUN, HE HAS CRAMMED HEALTH CARE DOWN YOUR THROAT, HE HAS PUBLICLY EMBARRASSED THS COUNTRY OVER AND OVER. SHALL I GO ON? OK…..NOW HE’S BOWING TO ISLAM, HE WON’T SHOW HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE, HE LET THE BLACK PANTHER GO (WHO’S THE RACIST THERE?)I COULD GO ON AND ON. AND YA NO OTHER PRESIDENT HAS DONE A FINE JOB EITHER, BUT NO OTHER PRESIDENT HAS MADE ENEMIES WITH OUR ALLIES AND SPIT I THEIR FACE AND THEN TURNED AROUND AND MENTIONED THINGS HE’S GONNA DO THAT WOULD TURN THE U.S. INTO A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY! HE HAS COMPLETELY IGNORED OUR RIGHTS IN OUR CONSTITUTION BY DOING WHATEVER HE WANTS, ALONG WITH HIS WHITE AND ITALIAN CRONIES, WHO I DON’T LIKE AND DESPISE ALSO. AND FURTHERMORE IT IS YOUR, NOT MINE, YOUR PRESIDENT THAT HAS INSTILLED THE PARANOIA IN US, WITH ALL OF HIS “GREAT PLANS”. SO, YOU GO RUNNING DOWN THE DAMN STREET WITH S. MELVIN, BUT DON’T KNOCK ON MY DOOR, BECAUSE WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU, SYMPATHY IS BETWEEN [offensive word removed] AND SYPHILIS IN THE DICTIONARY!!!!

      • http://personallibertydigest Madlyn

        Sheila, How many Italians do you speak of??? I am an American of Italian decent on my mother’s side. My uncles all fought in all the wars in this country and risked their lives for our flag. We are strongly patriotic. Don’t talk about Italians as if they are all on the Obama bandwagon because we’re not. We know a socialist, racist anti-American when we see one. Just because Madame Pelosi is power hungry and will stop at nothing to hold on to that power, at the expense of the American way of life, doesn’t mean the majority of Italian Americans feel that way. You despise Pelosi, perhaps, but don’t hate an entire nationality of people because of her. I served my country in the U.S. Navy during Vietnam. I was a medic. I didn’t see action because I was a woman, but I treated many casualties who came through Guam. I love this country. I would die to protect it. Would you????

    • Paul

      Last I rread, the founding fathers had guns, ammo, stored crops and fought to stay alive. Maybe we read different history books. I’m sure we’ll one day read the same one about the worst president in the history of America though. Lemme give you a hint on his initials…. MARXIST.

    • wasadoc

      Don’t talk “Founding Fathers”. Mine was Edward Rutledge. Check the paperwork. And don’t talk “black in the whitehouse”. I grew up with blacks and have many of them as friends. Admit it. You are just pathetic.

    • vicki

      Stephen Mason writes:
      “I have unsubscribed from all this claptrap…”

      Then why are you still here and posting too?

    • Sheila Reynolds

      No Stephen, you don’t have to be a black (or half-black) man to be a piss-poor leader. Another thing, this country was built on CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE NOT LIBERAL. Stop being a parasite and take responsibility for yourself.

    • WideRanger

      Obviously Steven Mason, you were not a Boy Scout…”Be Prepared”. Like the wise man says: “I had rather have my 9MM in my hand and not need it than to need it and not have it”. You don’t sound like you are even from this country Steven…not enough pride in your country to be an asset? Just in case you a righteous person, just remember that “Faith is not meant to be a substitute for intelligence”.

    • Oh Please…

      Actually Stephen, it is LACK of preparation that produces hysteria. There is nothing wrong with calmly, rationally thinking ahead (it’s called being self-sufficient, BEING an ADULT, btw…). While I concede that I am not nearly as prepared for an emergency as some of the people here, I CAN say that I have never had to run out for supplies in the weather emergencies I’ve experienced over the years…..like I’ve observed many others around me ‘frantically’ have done. In fact now that I finally live somewhere with space to have a garden I have started one and hope to also learn how to can my own goods. Why? Because whether caused by nature or not….I do not want to HAVE to impose myself on others in the event of an emergency. Not to mention…..how could I remotely hope to help anyone else if I have not even prepared well enough to take care of myself.

    • texastwin827

      Stephen don’t pull the race card out…it really makes you look stupid, given that the President was NOT elected by only black people. He would not be where he is, had a lot of WHITE people not voted for him. Get real!

  • Elaine Seavey

    I prepared thoroughly for Y2K that never happened. It took a HUGE effort and thousands of dollars, and the salary and energy I had then. Now I am late-74, have NO MONEY but Social, and it didn’t even get a COL increase & won’t for 2 more yrs. FINALLY resorted to food stamps and got a “whopping” $16 per month…that is ALL. So I have absolutely NO WAY to prepare for any emergency….not even our six months of hurricane season in Florida!!! So perhaps someone can tell me how to die gracefully if it gets to this stage where we rely on stored food? I am at wits end without even THAT to consider! And I have worked my entire life.

    • Scott Brown

      Elaine, read my comments below. Maybe not your complete solution, but a start. I remember Y2K all too well, I was working for IBM software development at the time and trust me, the threat was real and preparation for it was the right thing to do. If so many software and hardware people had not begun burning the midnight oil well in advance, all hell could easily have broken loose.

      I’m 61 next month, not the spring chicken I was back then, but I’m convinced that with the Gulf gusher, the world economic crises (there are more than one), the threat of invasion/martial law, national blackout, god knows what else, what could have happened had we not averted a Y2K disaster would have been like a string of small firecrackers in comparison to the threats we now face.

      Again, read my comments below, for starters. Whatever you learned preparing for Y2K may stand you in good stead now.

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      Even 16 bucks a month will buy a store of beans, rice, sugar and cheap pig meat. It kept my ancestors alive and healthy for generations.

    • WideRanger

      Elaine, you just haven’t thought this through. Don’t believe you have to die because you don’t have funds for food…always look for the ‘buy one and get one free’ and stockpile it. If you are able, start a square-foot (or any size)vegetable garden and grow something fresh. Call on neighbors and/or relatives to help you organize. Watch for sales of items you think you can use in case of emergency. You will be okay if you take charge of your situation. You’ll find it a challenge and fun to be prepared…maybe you can team-up with a good friend and support each other. -Regards.

    • Grandma

      Elaine, My mother is 82 and still works 3 days a week. And with the internet, there is no excuse. You have more than a few opportunities to make more money; just look for them.

      • texastwin827

        Grandma, you are rude and have no right in suggesting that Elaine should “get a job” and has “no excuse”, just because your 82 yr old grandmother works 3 days a week. You have absolutely NO IDEA of what her health situation is or if she is even able to work.

        Someone should have taught you, MANY years ago…if you can’t say anything nice, keep your mouth shut!

        • texastwin827

          I meant to say your “82 yr old MOTHER”

    • James

      I will help all I can in this type of event

    • texastwin827

      Elaine, first of all, know that there are many older people (I will soon be 66) in your position. I, fortunately, live with one of my daughters so I’m not faced with “going it alone”. One thing you may want to do is go through all the various articles and look for Granny Mae’s comments, for guidelines. She’s awesome!

      As one poster mentioned, look for “buy 1 get 1″ sales. Also, while I know it must be humiliating to you, since you’ve worked all your life, contact food pantries in your area to see if you also qualify for assistance, given you qualified for such a small amount of food stamps. Often times, their requirements are more in line with the real world than the govt’s.

      There is also a food ministry called Angel Food Ministry http://www.angelfoodministries.com/menu.asp
      Check to see if there is a church sponsor in your area, for this program (they also take food stamps) While this food may not be non-perishable, it offers food at a lower cost, which might free up some of your money and enable you to buy extra, at the grocery store, for your stockpile.

      If you are a Southern girl…LOL….start with a few bags of dried beans because we all know that’s a “southern staple” and will provide protein. If it’s only you, consider just buying one or two items, each month. Remember, a one lb bag of dried beans will feed one person for several days.

      Beyond that, I don’t have any other suggestions but perhaps others will have. Good luck & God Bless You

  • Scott Brown

    I’ve mentioned this elsewhere, probably here as well.

    At the risk of causing a run on the stores for these particular items, I highly recommend three food items: dried organic lentils, brown rice, and mined sea salt as your first bulk purchases. To this emergency food supply, you probably should add a good (I mean GOOD, not One-a-Days, but COMPLETE) natural-source multivitamin/mineral.

    You’ll also want a water source(and/or a good Katadyn filter), cooking fuel source, butane lighters (also a good trade item; I still don’t get why anyone would store bulky wooden matches when Bics are small, light, waterproof, and good for thousands of lights), a non-electric stainless steel pressure cooker with spare seal ring & pressure plug, and seed-sprouting containers with screens.

    Allied POWs in Japanese prison camps lived months/years mainly on rice alone (rent the movie “King Rat,” or read the Clavell historical novel). You can do far better than they did, with just the above listed items.

    Purchase one 25 lb. bag of ORGANIC green lentils and two of ORGANIC short- or long-grain brown rice, and 2-3 lbs. of trace-mineral-rich all natural mined sea salt. For those who haven’t tried it before, a diet of 1-to-2 legumes-to-grains will provide you with a complete assimilable protein, and the salt will provide flavor and more importantly minerals, sufficient to keep you healthy indefinitely. Further, sprouted lentils are rich enough in vitamin C (as well as other fresh vegetable nutrients) to prevent scurvy and other problems (and no, you will not have the problem with constipation which you’d otherwise experience with a stash of Spaghetti-Os, Spam, and Lipton soups).

    Red or black beans and pearl barley, in the same 1-to-2 ratio, provide nearly the same protein as lentils and rice, but take twice the time/fuel to cook unless pre-soaked. A good pressure cooker will cook lentils and rice in 10-12 minutes at sea level (above 2000 ft. add about half a minute per 1000 ft.).

    Those three bags of boring legumes and grains, even if you had NOTHING else, could keep you alive for around three months at a use-rate of just under a cup (dry) per day. People have, and do, live far longer on far less.

    Do I store more variety and greater quantity? Absolutely. Have I arranged for additional food supplies in the event of longer-range need? Of course. You can never store enough because you never know how long an emergency (or concatenated series of disasters) will last. If we live long enough, we may be permitted to enjoy all manner of apocalyptic stuff.

    But were I allowed only four food items and four pieces of equipment to nourish me for 90 days without further aid, they would consist of: 75 lbs. of legumes and grains as described, a pound or two of sea salt, and a large bottle of multivitamins; a 4 quart Presto pressure cooker, a large sprouting jar, a Bic lighter, and a high-end Katadyn water filter. If you had to move quickly, you could carry a third of the food on your back and cache the rest with your spare ammo, to come back to later.

    After such a 90-day nutritional austerity program, in addition to being alive, the average American would probably emerge in far better physical shape than he or she is in today.

    • Christin

      Thanks, great info.

      I was wondering what is a “false flag terrorist attack?”
      I have heard that several times now.

      • DROPOUT2001

        Go to Google.com, type in “false flag.” Check out the well-written and researched piece entitled “False Flag Operations” at http://www.wanttoknow.info/falseflag. Since WWII, the Israelis have virtually written the book on false flag terrorism, but many countries and organizations have used it, and are still using it (yes, Christin, that includes the US CIA).

    • Steve Gast

      Going to the store tommorow because of your post Thanks Scott Brown

  • Tony

    What’s the difference, the world is going to end in December 2012 anyway right? I bet you guys believe that too? It’s one thing to prepare yourself for a natural disaster, but to expect to one day need a fallout shelter for survival is absurd; you’re a psycho living in a bubble. Calm down, the November elections will begin to fix the problems. Geeze you guys are paranoid!!

    • JC

      Who are you and how did you find me?

      • Tony

        I am your worst nightmare. I am an alien from outer space and I will cast my powerful laser weapons upon planet earth in the fall of 2011. Only humans living 12-15 feet below the earth’s surface will survive. All survivors captured will be taken to the galaxy of darkness for medical testing. Hide, while you still can!!

        • JC

          Umm…actually that isn’t my worst nightmare.
          A false flag terrorist attack and / or race riots, food shortages would be though. And those are very real possibilities.

          But thanks for playing along. :)

          • Tony

            A natural disaster or terrorist attack is definitely a possibility, I agree with that. I don’t think we will see a civil war or excessive rioting to the point of chaos. If we do, I have a few firearms that haven’t been used in a while ;)

        • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

          I always thought that the invading aliens would capture & eat the slow, fat ones first. Wouldn’t that give the rest of us a chance to haul ass and hide out?

          • DROPOUT2001

            I live within an hour’s drive of the Mexican border. Whether one lives in the Outer Limits TV show, or where I and my neighbors do, what you envision may come all too true, Jessica.

    • Claire

      Tony–Call me paranoid if you want, but I don’t want to be up a creek without a paddle. I will not be hung out to dry. Just don’t come pounding on my door wanting something to eat. It very well may turn out to be a scenario where it is every man for himself. One never knows. Go ahead and be cocky about this issue, you may be the one left holding the bag. Literally.

  • Elle

    My forefathers were also prepared and they canned & had gardens. I think it wise to be prepared, there is no quarentee on tomarrow but it is best to be prepared. I am thankful for people like “Bob” who keep us up to date and thinking. I am sorry people like Steven Mason & others look at this as scare tactics, what a pity! It is just commoin sense in managing you well being. Lets not be bickery!

  • Dianne

    I live in CA. My friend lives in Santa Cruz. What saved her in the “89 quake was that she had food stored, had 10-20 gal. water, and enough fuel for her camp stove to prepare food until power came back. You are just silly if you are not ready to take care of your household for the 3 (ha, ha, ha) days the goberment says it’ll take until they can come to help the public.
    Yup, I have a mix of canned (remember, there is water in there) and dry high nutrient foods. Including quinoia and chia seeds, as well as nuts.
    Unlike big storms, earthquakes do not give warning.
    My husband and I also are trained as Red Cross Emergency Responders. My instructor told us we have much of the skill set of EMT’s without anatomy and medicine dispensing. Useful in case of trauma.
    My city has training for people to address these issues, including a introduction to urban search and rescue, as well as how to shore up collapsing buildings. Intrduction.

    • MikeC

      Hey, Dianne!

      Do you have a link or suggestion to receive that training! Good day!

  • Mary

    S Melvin was last seen standing on a rooftop in New Orleans
    pleading for rescue!
    ( After having been warned long before to get the hell out of the way!)

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  • Mel

    I’m on SSDI. It took 2 times and many, many years to finally get it. I cashed my IRAs, my life insurance policies, had to sell my house short before it went into foreclosure. If anyone thinks its a handout to receive SSDI, you are so wrong. I worked construction and knew to keep food stored away for when there was nothing coming in. My mother went thru the depression and stored food and such. Her main item was toilet paper. The one item I would suggest to try to have on hand is your medication. I try to stay a month ahead. Like it was mentioned, it can be any disruption in our lives where we will need to be prepared. Elaine you’re in my prayers.

    • Jeff

      Mel,

      Increase your medicine scripts to 90 days. Most doctors will do this if you ask.

  • sheila carter

    OH YA, AND STEPHEN YOUR WELCOME TO BREAK INTO MY HOUSE AND SEE HOW COWARDICE I AM. OR SNEEK UP ON ME IN THE STREET AND WRAP YOUR ARMS AROUND MY NECK TO SAY HI, AND I’LL SHOW YOU…..WHAT A COWARD REALLY LOOKS LIKE! DON’T FORGET WE ALL LET THIS COUNTRY GET TO THIS POINT INCLUDING YOU, AND UNFORTUNETELY YOU VOTED FOR A MARXIST AND A THIEVING LIAR, SO FOR THIS PRESIDENTS TERM AND ALL HIS DOINGS, I BLAME YOU!!!!!! BUT, I WILL PRAY FOR YOU ANYWAY, BECAUSE YOU NEEEEEED JESUS!

    • DROPOUT2001

      If this idiot or any other idiot tries to break into my house or attempt to manhandle me in the street, he is definitely going to need Jesus.

    • survivor

      Anyone comes trying to take from me or my family will end up providing us some fresh meat to mix in with my stored goods!

  • coal miner

    Attention,

    It may not be a food shortage,but a different kind of threat.

    http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/gmfood.shtm · Cached page

    • Dennis

      It looks like a control program to me.

  • http://www.spiritjewelry.info Suzanne

    I got the urge to start up a raised bed garden last year, and it is finally coming into its own.
    I found a source for white plastic food-storage drums… had been used for lemonade concentrate… which are clean and ready to store water in.
    If you want to find the local Mormon home canneries, go to http://www.providentliving.org where they have their locations listed. They have some unique products, too, including dried refried beans. Their food is so much cleaner, for example, their potato flakes are just potatoes and salt, without the two-inch long list of oddball additives.
    I have also supplemented these stocks with canned meats from Costco and Sam’s Club. I have made many, many meals from these as I cycle these out. Canned food is supposed to be only good for a couple of years.
    I have also stored a lot of good organic millet, quinoa and amaranth… all are high in protein.
    I began buying silver at $9 an ounce.
    You will also want to keep a supply of cash on hand in case either the debit/credit machines are down or you have to bug-out.

  • 45caliber

    A good bicycle is also useful if energy is lost. You will also need inner tubes at least and a way to patch them. Most of us don’t have horses available and a EMP from a nuke can shut down all more modern cars as it fries the electronics.

    Canning jars and extra lids are also very good along with a pressure cooker. You can can many vegetables without a pressure cooker but generally not meat. Learn how to dry it and smoke it too. When canning, ALWAYS make sure the lip of the jar is clean before putting a lid on. That seems to be the one major problem with most people canning and a dirty rim can easily ruin a jar of food.

  • http://BobLivingston Dianne of Wash.

    Thanks to Scott Brown! In preparing you must be careful to think of the nutrients that will keep you alive and healthy! Lentils are high in healthy things. If possible have dried carrots, spinach, apples, etc. Even if water is not available you can chew them and get those needed nutrients….and as the life of a plant is in the seeds, sprouts are really wonderful! Mung, Alfalfa, Clover, get as many as you can and they don’t take must moisture to get them sprouting! One other thing that is easy to get, doesn’t cost much and can do wonders for you and yours, is Cayenne Pepper. Do not buy it from the grocery store. Besides helping the entire circulatory system, it can stop any ‘funny’ feelings in the chest (take some in water and drink, or take a few capsules) If there is bleeding, it can be thrown on a wound (count to 10-15 and it should stop or take a few capsules) it equalizes blood pressure (can stop you from going into shock)Read up on it…..a super first-aid ingredient, plus just a good healthy nutrient to take! We’re gonna have to do self medicating during these times! And also, I understand that it is best to store your water in anything glass, rather than plastic. Thrift stores are wonderful places to buy old canning jars, and so cheap! Only cost then, is the rings and lids! Check for chips at the opening! Some good helpful tips in this comment section! And for those of you who think this is foolishness……well you shouldn’t do any of these things.

    • Scott Brown

      And thank you, Dianne in Washington (hopefully the state, not that other place). I have some cayenne, but you just reminded me to put it on my healthfood Co-Op shopping list to purchase in bulk. Very handy, healthy, adds flavor, and weighs almost nothing in your emergency-rations bug-out bag.

      We all could mention (and many here have) a LOT of additional good choices, I’m still learning a few more here. Many choices depend on what part of our civilization breaks first, where, and how it impacts different communities. (E.g., the difference between survival plans for Washington DC, vs. Washington State…TOTALLY different.)

      I went with the minimalist symmetry of four food items, four pieces of equipment but, as I said, that would just be a place to start for anyone who hasn’t yet. And as Steve Gast suggested, don’t wait. Nearly everyone can at least do these minimal things TODAY. (Well, maybe except for the water filter, I had to order mine online from where I live, but if you live near a larger city, some sporting goods stores carry them. Remember, a Swiss-made Katadyn, high-end pocket filter…i.e., the $200+ model, accept no cheap knock-offs, this is your–and your family’s– LIFE. Also, potable water can be a trade good, but I wouldn’t flash the filter around among strangers.)

      Once you have the equipment, consider. Every time you purchase that same quantity of the four food items, you’ve added another quarter-year to your potential for unassisted survival. With a dozen or so air-tight army surplus ammo containers per person you can store a couple years worth of said basic survival food almost anyplace. Seriously. Two years. Plenty of time to learn a few things about living off the land in your neighboring areas, or hooking up with like-minded survivor defense communities growing co-op gardens and so forth.

      Also consider: In the early days of a collapse, one major threat will of course be roving gangs pillaging: first stores, then inner city homes, then the burbs, then they’ll move farther out. They will mainly be looking for: first, fresh food, then canned goods, then hoof-and-vine edibles, finally those who survive will consider dried legumes and grains. Stores of stuff resembling “cattle feed” may simply be ignored in the first wave in favor of eggs, chickens, pigs and so on. What self-respecting pillager will steal sprout seeds when there may still be Spaghetti-Os or Alpo hidden about?

  • John I.

    I can finally sleep at night after I stored about a years worth of food for me and my family. While making my preparations I realized you could go on almost forever thinking of something else. You have to draw a line somewhere. A couple of items I felt were essential were a couple of 12v solar panels and a 12vdc to 120vac inverter. You can charge the batteries out of a vehicle and run almost anything you need on a 1,000 watt inverter. Charge batteries, run power tools, you name it. You’ll always have power.

  • mavis

    IT’S ALWAYS GOOD TO BE PREPARED. GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU DON’T FORGET TO PRAY AND ASK GOD FOR FORGIVENESS AND TO BLESS
    AMERICA AGAIN. DON’T FORGET TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER WE CAN HELP OURSELVES BY MAKING SURE THAT OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS ARE PUT OUT OF COMMISSION. SEE YOU AT THE POLLS.MEHPENSACOLA,FL

  • http://yahoo.com bushrat420

    Very interesting replies for sure–I live in the U.P. of Michigan,on a lake-15mi.from a small town.I plow about a mile to get to the maim road. Built this cabin to survive whatever comes down the pipe. I have an 1890s wood burning kitchen range-a big stone fireplace-and an Earth stove wit a stash of firewood. Still stocking up–I have alot of game where i live,so meat is there for the taking.REMEMBER: a high power rifles report carries for miles!!! Could sound like a dinner bell to many who didnt prepare.Along with a variety of guns&ammo–make sure you have a GOOD 22long rifle in your stash-If your looking for small game,or a deer–a 22LR-doesnt carry for miles,and you can get subsonic ammo—which means little or no noise–stealth is the key when someone may be hunting YOU!!!!pick up varied types of 22ammo for different senarios–Another thing–no woodsmoke during the day–so you may get cold during the daylight hours–but at least your safe!! You may need to blackout your windows at night-so be prepared!! NEVER SAY NEVER–the money you have in savings is for today–not worth anything if not used!!! Look around you—we are on the brink of something big–so dont let your gastank ever drop below 1/2 a tank.If you can afford one–get a AR-15–its worth it and battle proven! Store your ammo in ammo cans from a surplus store– and the one thing you should never forget–expect the unexpected– Someone from our govt. or some other govt.may knock on your door–so store your things in a couple of places-not all in your house! If you plan on burying stuff in your yard–find some metal shavings from a metal shop and spread them all over your yard so a metal detector wont find your stash–Lots of good info hear from everyone–Stay informed-stay alert-and be safe.

  • Steve Gast

    A vary good idea to have is barbed wire a 1350 foot role cost $38.00
    solar landscape lights are vary good as a light source. Always remember to freeze any flour or ground corn meal product for at least 72 hours. I would freeze all pasta probucts as well this will kill bug eggs before long term storage. Learn to make animal traps on youtube and you can buy them at farm an fleet or tractor supply. Wasp spray works much better then pepper spray the attacker must get med help and will walk away in a hurry. Make spears to keep back wild dogs and train your kids to keep them close (safty first)buy books like fox fire you will learn the skills of the old timers. Canning food is easy. You can learn how to on you tube. Watch youtube and you can learn many many things. Get to know you Neighbor ban together learn to use a cb radio. Buy a pellet gun great for small game Yes I could go on an on. If you are poor like me Grow a garden you can dehidrate food and meat with only sunlight and a small fire (youtube) Power to the sheepeople. Good luck……

  • Teresa

    Power to the sheeple. I didnt vote for Obama,but he would have won no matter what. The Builderberg Group runs the world. the Illuminati. Pray and store food and water and ammo.May God have mercy on us all.

  • Claire

    I have been storing and stashing food items, and necessities for almost a year, it will be a year in October. My husband has been “storing” too. I have everything I need in two homes. My home here in town and the farmhouse. The farmhouse is on 22 acres well hidden from any road. It is out in the boonies. Plenty of woods, and cannot be seen from an aerial view, maybe in winter it can be seen. But the trees are so thick, maybe not. The only thing I make sure to do is rotate my supplies, I check everything once a month at the farmhouse, my neighbors in the country keep an eye on it. Bottled water is an item that I rotate. I don’t let it get too old, since I am not sure how long it will keep. Does anyone know about bottled water? The cell phones work in the country, but I do have to go to a clearing. My big van is full of dog crates, as is the farmhouse. I would never leave my dogs even if I put myself in danger. We have an SUV–and everything can be loaded quickly and taken with us to the farmhouse. My family knows the game plan and if something should happen, we are set to go. The only thing that bothers me is that sometimes the best laid plans can go awry. I just hope and pray if anything does happen, that we will know in plenty of time, but that is an “iffy” situation.

    • Steve Gast

      You are in good shape but consider this. When the soviet union fell apart. People ran to the farms and took them over killing the farmers. In South africa when the British left the Africans killed all the white farm owners and took over. Starving there people. The only problem with a farm is It is like a magnet. May I suggest a few things for you. First buy a vary large or several large surplus army tents. set them up. Organize your farm as a bug out center for people familes you can trust. Start training two man fire teams and patrols routs. Set up long range kill zones. Get into ham radio or cb’s. If there is a road to your farm get some landscape curbing that matches the other roads and set up your own dead end road Make it look real. You will need to patrol 24/7 untill you fell safe. Good luck God bless. Steve

      • Scott Brown

        I like the way your mind works, Gast.

      • Claire

        Steve Gast– Oh great, they head for the farms! I have thought about what you said–I think we can camouflage okay–the house sits back about a mile, far enough from the single lane road that leads to the property. There is just a narrow entryway that leads to the house, but many trees and brush surround this entryway. We more or less let the brush and trees take over because we wanted to keep it so private. The yard around the house is small because of the trees and brush. The house itself is a small ranch-type, which is good. There is no way anyone can see it. Egads, I hope and pray we never have to flee our homes.

    • Scott Brown

      I, too, have been concerned with how long water will keep, so my immediate emergency stores are in quart glass Knudsen juice bottles, pre-distilled in a Sears counter-top distiller. Until I get a solar electric setup I’m reliant on grid power, hence the predistilling.

      As a backup in the event this water still turns bad (hasn’t so far), I have a Katadyn pocket water filter (check their site, the portable one I bought [not cheap] is their highest end, weighs 20 oz., good for thousands of gallons if kept clean and undamaged). I have friends who go hiking/camping and carry no, zero, zip water with them–just a Swiss Katadyn. Mountain climbers, explorers, and military special forces have relied on them for decades.

      You wonder, if you (and your family) had to run out the door in your shirtsleeves, never to return, and could take only one item with you, what would that item be? Weapon? Survival knife? Sack of trail mix?

      For me, it would be the pocket Katadyn. You can kill an attacker with a rock (be sure to grab his gear: tools, weapons, ammo, boots), you can even find food and shelter among rocks. But unless you’re Moses you can’t squeeze potable water from a rock, and without water you’re dead.

      But with this amazing filter you can drink from a mud puddle or recycle urine if you absolutely must. It hangs by my door, next to: a canteen, a sharp skinning knife, a 30.30 rifle, a short-barrel .357, a small “boogie bag” (aka “possibles sack,” containing spare ammo, Bic lighters, emergency rations, a few other assorted survival items), and my favorite hat. I could literally be out the door in under a minute and, with luck, carve a new life for myself if I had to.

      People have done it with far less, but not without water.

      • Jeff

        Scott,

        After reading all of the post in this forum, I believe you know what you are talking about. There are a few items I would add to the list: A gas mask with spare filters. They are realitively inexpensive and WILL come in handy for a train wreck with cars leaking toxic fumes, a tanker truck accident along a freeway near a subdivision, when the tank was filled with hydrocloric acid or when a home grown terrorists detenates a Sirin gas bomb capable of killing a thousand people stuck in traffic and 5 PM. You might enlighten people more on this subject.

        If there is a terrorist event involving a Bio-hazard, a rain suit and rubber gloves will protect a person long enough to walk out of the danger area. Then one would have to decon the rain suit before taking it off.

        I urge everyone to look up what a Faraday cage is used for. Just go to Google and research. EMP will take out electronics, but they can be protected.

        Think about how to defend your home, whether you live in a rural or suburban area. Blind spots, avenue of attack, use of feed bags filled with sand to stop bullets, motion detectors placed in wooded areas around your house. Sure someone will shoot the lights, but you’ll know where they are. Sling shot? Blow gun? How about nice throwing rocks? 16 drops of plain bleach makes dirty, brown water drinkable.

        Before, during and after all the preparation your lives will be in the hands of a wise, all powerful and merciful God. Pray without ceasing when the SHTF.

        That’s about it for now Scott.

        • Scott Brown

          Thanks for the vote of confidence, Jeff, but there are many people here better prepared and clearly more knowledgeable than I. I mainly try to focus on the basics which would apply to the majority, but a thousand books have been written on the subject of survival, many good, all different because there are so many different starting places (literally, physical starting places).

          For example, gas masks and Faraday cages might make sense for people in the cities or other specialized situations. In MOST longer-term disaster/catastrophe/collapse situations, getting out of urban areas would be paramount. That step, I’ve already taken. I tell people to keep their guns loaded and their gas tanks full, which would apply to most, but I’ve little hope many will follow the advice, or even that very many will even be able to drive on city and suburban streets if the collapse is sudden. They’ll be biking (if they can defend one) or walking.

          Since everyone’s resources, skills, and situations differ, I try to focus on the bare minimums, the “don’t forgets.” TP is a nice-to-have, water is a sine qua non. Silver coin is smarter than a currency stash, but you can’t eat it. Dried foods are great, don’t forget something to cook them in and something to light a fire under it with. Binoculars and tripwires are fine, but do you have a weapon and know what to do with it when something bad catches up with you? A hundred things would be handy-to-have, but are you in good enough shape to carry them all if need be? (How about a root cellar? Can you take it with you if you have to run? Does a city-dweller need advice on how to build one?) You get the idea.

          I’ve known people living in highrise condos in New York and Boston. God help them lasting a week.

          I have family in Tucson and Austin. God help them getting out (which they would have to do if the water and power went off for more than a week or two).

          I have neighbors with cows and chickens and gardens. God help them when Tucson, Phoenix, and El Paso/Las Cruces spill out into the surrounding desert communities.

          I know people who live mostly alone, far from anywhere, but still rely on occasional trips into town for supplies. God help them if they haven’t worked out ways to either become utterly self-reliant, or at least outlast the turmoil and forge ties with surviving or newly formed communities.

          And so on. Nobody has all the answers because there is no such compendium for all situations and scenarios. What this discussion does (it might be useful for some people to print and save it) is get people thinking, or rethinking, THEIR situation, what they should be doing NOW for themselves, their family’s, friend’s and neighbors’ future, for when assorted disaster/catastrophe/collapse occurs in THEIR world.

          • Scott Brown

            One further note and I’ll shut up.

            Many have in the back of their minds a romanticized notion of the Rambo/McGuyver/Man-In-the-Wilderness survivor who, armed with little more than a knife, takes on all odds and succeeds. I know it has been and can be done, I just wouldn’t choose to try it. Should it come to that, however, just you against the environment, up the odds in your favor. A few thoughts I’ve had…

            1. Keep your dental work up to the minute, your most recent visit might be your last…ever.

            2. If you’ve been putting off corrective surgery (oral, eyes, knees, hip, hernia, appendix, whatever) get it done NOW.

            3. If you depend on corrective lenses, make sure your prescription is up to date, and that you have spares to last indefinitely. Put them in crush-proof cases, with at least one in your bug-out bag.

            4. If you occasionally or generally need any sort of support (knee, ankle, back, wrist, elbow, neck, even arch supports) have durable spares. Same with dentures, braces, or prosthetics.

            5. If you rely on any sort of medicine, vitamin, herbal remedy, etc. (yes, including denture adhesive) for a chronic condition, without which you cannot usually function at your best, stock up on as much of it as you can, while you still can.

            6. If you’ve been letting yourself go for awhile (who among us hasn’t, ever?), extra poundage, weakened muscle tone, shortness of wind, congested digestive system from poor diet, lack of flexibility, general burnout…start getting back in shape NOW.

            7. Stock up on survival skills. If don’t know how to swim, learn now. If you can’t easily climb a tree or navigate a rock face, learn. If you can’t drive, ride a bike, row or paddle or sail, hike, set up a camp or build a proper fire, shoot, defend yourself, any other skill directly related to immediate survival which, in your situation might save your life in the short term (i.e., which you will not have time to learn as you go), get started.

            Emergencies and disasters don’t care about your good future intentions or respect procrastination. They happen on their own schedule. They leave you NO time to go back and prepare.

            In other words, your body is your most important survival tool (after your brain), irrespective of whatever else you may surround yourself with in terms of supplies and equipment. Provide your mind and body with every advantage you can give it.

        • herbstine

          A caution on gas masks, the standard surplus military masks will NOT protect you from most industrial vapors like the ones you mentioned. Military gas masks are specifically designed to protect against particulate substances, such as blood, nerve & incapaciating agents (MACE, tear gas, etc) as well as biological agents & nuclear fallout particles. If you need protection against industrial vapors, that will require different kinds on masks. Gempler’s supply is a good source for those.

  • Christin

    Wow, many of you are so knowledgeable.

    We did prepare for Y2K and some thought we were a little weird, but we would have been in better shape than those that didn’t… had something happened.

    We were awake in the spring/summer of 2008 and knew if the anti-American (marxist) won we were in trouble. We have been preparing since 2008, but I see from everyone’s lists and advice we need to do a LOT more… so thank you to all of you who have offered your expertise and advice.

  • Claire

    To all–another thing–be sure to have a First Aid kit–bandages, iodine, peroxide, alcohol, bandaids, adhesive tape, gauze bandages, Neosporin, Aspirin, Immodium, ace bandages, arm slings, cold/hot packs, EVERYTHING YOU CAN THINK OF. And don’t laugh at me–I even have a First Aid kit for the dogs. I have them here at home and at the farmhouse.

  • Sheila Reynolds

    Forgot to mention the most important guide book. A copy of the BIBLE (Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth). May God have mercy on this country.

  • Steve Gast

    THE BEST WAY TO KNOW WHEN TO MAKE A MOVE IS TO WATCH YOUTUBE. TYPE ECONOMIC COLLAPS. UNDER SEARCH CHECK FOR TODAY. CHECK IT EVERYDAY. THESE GUYS ARE ON IT. CALIF WILL MOST LIKLEY GO FIRST. ON ISSUES OF THE DOLLAR THE ASIAN MARKETS ARE OPEN AT OUR NIGHT TIME. DOLLAR FAILURE WILL MOST LIKLEY OCCURE IN SINGAPORE FIRST THEN SPRED THRU ASAIN THEN EUROPEAN MARKETS. WE WOULD BE THE LAST TO KNOW. I KEEP MY COMPUTER ON MARKET UPDATE FOR ASIAN MAKETS. IF THIS HAPPENS CASH IS KING FOR A SHORT TIME FLY TO SEVERAL STORES GET WHAT YOU CAN. GOOD LUCK.

  • Steve Gast

    Bottled water has No shelf life limit…. Per say. A good rule of thumb is 2 years. If you keep the bottle unopened out of sunlight and cool you can go 10 or more years. If you are going to drink vary old water. Look to see if it is cloudy. If it is clear do it. If you are still conserned boil it. Our oldest bottled water is better the most of mexico water supply. Source FDA well and me. And brother I have sucked up some really really bad water…

    • Claire

      Steve Gast–Thank you!

      • Steve Gast

        One other thing. all you people out there with wells. If power goes out take off the well head. Pull out the pipe. yes it will take a while. You can buy a trindle pump. They are fitted with a hose bib. you can drop your garden hose down your own well. And pump up to 200 feet straight up. This pump is what the UN is using to help Africans to get water in the desert. with two pumps you can maintain a 1 acre crop or more. The newest kind uses a bike type way of opperating pump. They are a couple of hundred dollars some are more some are less. You can also make your own… Plans are on youtube type in trindle pump. Good luck Steve

        • Carl Roy

          Your reference to a Trindle Pump was interesting, however I tried Google and Bing and got no results. Pumping water over about 33 feet at atmospheric pressure is impossible, so what method is used to pump it 200 feet?

          • Steve Gast

            United Nations website Read un projects for africa water pump. It has been a while like 4 mo ago. Also I watch a demo on you tube with the same pump. I bleive the use of two cylindars and back flow preventing valves working in oppision to each other is why they can go straight up. If I can find it again I will post it for you.

          • Steve Gast

            My bad spelling. watch the video on youtube. Ecoflo Treadle pump. I may have had the section and discharg reversed. However it is a impressive none electric water pump.

  • bob pa

    I am not worried because I can live off the land. I can move quitely and sleep in a tree or in a cave and survive. the only thing I worry about is when this is all over will we have sane people left or idiots. If the idiots survive I will surely die because I can not stand to be arround idiots because they will drive me crazy.

    • Steve Gast

      In the end Idiots will help you get thru this. If you cook them wright
      Z(#_#)S

    • Oh Please…

      LOL….I’m with you!

  • http://yahoo DAWN

    I LIVE IN WV. IN 1993 WE HAD A SNOW STROM AND WE DID NOT HAVE ANY ELECTRIC OR WATER FOR A WEEK. ALL THE POWER LINES WERE DOWN. THANK GOD WE HAD FIREPLACE TO KEEP WARM. WE USED BUCKETS OF WATER FROM OUR POOL FOR FLUSHING THE TOILETS. FOR BATHING WE USED OUR HOT TUB WATER AND WATER FOR THE HOT WATER TANK. WE COOK ON THE OUTSDE GAS GRILL AND MADE COFFEE ON IT. (FOR COFFEE LOVERS YOU NEED OLD FASHSION PERKULATOR)
    ALL THE STORES WERE SOLD OUT OF EVERYTHING BEFORE THE STROM STARTED. WE HAVE 4-WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLE BUT COULD NOT GET OUT, BECAUSE THE POLICE CLOSED ALL THE ROADS FOR DAYS. WE HAD AN ELDERLY COUPLE STAY AT OUR HOME BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T HAVE ANY HEAT. WHEN WE FINALLY DUG OUT. WE COULD NOT FINE ANY BOTTLE WATER. WE DROVE 50 MILES ROUND TRIP
    AND FOUND ONLY 1 BOTTLE OF WATER. WE RAN OUT OF EVERYTHING. THE HOLTELS WERE CLOSED TOO. THE HOSPITALS COULD NOT TAKE ANY PATIENTS
    BECAUSE NO HEAT OR WATER. IT WAS AWFUL. I LEARNED TO BE PREPARED FOR ANYTHING. WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT Y2K I HAD EVERYTHING TO LIVE FOR A YEAR. AND NOTHING WENT TO WASTE. SINCE THEN WE BOUGHT A ELECTRIC GENERATOR, PROPANE FIREPLACE, AND KEEP FOOD WELL STOCKED.

  • http://julientatum@bellsouth.net JTatum

    To get a partial understanding of what happens after a Major catastrophe Please read “The Road” and then go see the movie “The Road”
    There is a high probability of a catostrophic occurance here in the US in the next 2-3 years.
    An EMP over NY area knocks out power, water, computers, credit cards are no good, no gasoline, transportation and vehicles grounded out. No food nor water for 5 to 8 days minimum. Cannot walk out of range of damage, too large an area. Understand what happens in times like these, accept it, do not fear just understand what will be.

  • Bill Ramsey

    When does this all end? When we kill all our enemies? Is that possible? Or perhaps there is another solution. Is it possible to use our intellect and resources to cure the hate America disease or do we just keep killing? Don’t get me wrong, I’d fight to the death to defend my family, but unless we can “imagine” as Lennon suggested and Jesus Christ taught, we are doomed to repeat this violent behavior until only anarchy exist. As true Christians we should come up with true solutions other than protesting gun bans etc.. I personally think the horse is out of the barn and our holier than thou European roots have already sealed our fate. Therefore, I think that storing as much food as possible is a great idea. We all need to hone our gardening and self sufficiency skills and prepare for the continuing demise of society.

  • thinking about

    I knew of a movement 30 years ago along these same lines. It is always better to be prepared for disasters, living on the Gulf Coast one is always smart to be prepared for hurricanes. About the solar cells, very smart idea. This would do a few good things, the enviroment would be cleaner, utilize a resource given to us and get us away from some of the dependence on oil from countries which do not have our best interest as their priority. But also we must realize even with the best preparation sometimes we need to help those less fortunt than ourselves in disasters.

  • Angel-Wanna-Be

    hey folks along with canning, you can also pull green tomatoes, wrap each separetly in dry newspaper, and store in cool dark place, such as caves or pump rooms___should get you to at least christmas_
    –check often

    —just a thought

    • Angel-Wanna-Be

      sorry about the double post, this site is acting up, and i thought the post didn’t go up.

    • libertytrain

      Angel- thanks – I knew about the wrapping them in paper – just didn’t realize they lasted that long if in a dark place.

  • MikeC

    Friends, don’t forget to get Bob Livingston’s “How to Survive the Collapse of Civilization”. Lots of great ideas, and covers a wide range of possiblities.

    Also, check out OfftheGrid.com for ideas. They also have a book called “Gone before you get there”…77 items that instantly vanish during a collapse.

    Excalibur is a great Dehydrator.

    Store the most nutritionally dense foods!

    Thanks for the ideas.

  • Grandma

    One suggestion to add to your emergency supply list…. Honey.
    Honey is the only food known to man that NEVER spoils. It’s naturally antimicrobial, and draws out moisture, and when placed on a burn, it stops the pain instantly; so it’s God’s perfect burn cure. It’s loaded with nutrients too.

    • Claire

      Grandma–Good one!

  • http://YAHOO PATSY WEICK

    Don’t forget the Bragg Organic Apple Cider Vinegar Raw & Unfiltered With The Mother. Cinnamon Ground Pure. This All goes with the Honey.
    God talks about the healing of honey in the Bible.
    Check out all the Herbs you will need for your Health sake. At any and all times. Just Goggle, Apple Cider Vinegar & Cinnamon Heals what?
    And take it from their. YOU WILL BE SIRPRIZED WHAT COMES UP. You will not only need this for your good Health now but to take with you. By doing this you will find out what Meds you can live without. I had been a pre dibitic for 3 years My Blood work came back no more Pre Dibetic condition. Due to the Cinnamon And as for my Colestrol the numbers are down. I would rather take natural Herbs as God intended then put any more Drugs in my body that is proven to do more harm then good.
    Good Luck Check it out Don’t stop their do the resurch. I’m still doing mine.
    Good Luck. God Bless You All. GOD BLESS AMERICA.

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  • Ellie

    We have a 24′ swimming pool is it possible to use it as drinking water, if not I would appreciate knowing what to do to make it safe to consume.

    • Steve Gast

      Yes you can. first take out like 5 gal out at a time. let it sit open in the air to evaporate clorine. Next filter with a fine screen. Next filter with a 2 micron filter then boil or use colldial silver about 3 oz to kill any germs. colldial silver is easy to make and will kill any known germ or virus look it up and watch it on youtube How to make colldial silver. Also is the natural replacement for all antibiotics. you can drink it or put on a wound. If you have like oil or some other poision in your water you need to run it thru activated charcoal. You can get that at a pet fish store.

  • Ellie

    Steve, I have a short story to relate to you about CollidalSilver.when I was cutting mens hair one of the hairs went into my finger and was stuck in my bone, two surjuries later I was sent to a infectious disease Dr. for I had two staph infection. The only way they could stop the staph going into my had was to amputate my finger,Well I was cutting truck drivers hair and complaing to each and every one of them about it. They made me 40parts per million and took it for a month internaley and externaly. It completley cured it,plus many many other things….GOOD STUFF

    • Steve Gast

      Great story. Everyone should make there own.

  • http://rwglr@aol.com John Rhodehamel

    After reading many of the survival posts, a couple of ideas come to mind: Faraday cage for EMP protection can be made simply by getting a large, metal (3-5 gal) potato chip or popcorn can with metal lid, setting it directly on a concrete or dirt floor and puting a block of 2×4 or 2×6 non-treated wood inside on which to place an emergency radio (battery, solar and/or mechanically powered). Don’t let any part of radio touch the metal sides! Tightly close the can lid. Provide extra batteries and renew every 2 years. Also always test the radio when opening the can lid!
    Seeds for future food are absolutely necessary. Keep dry and cool or frozen. Use only heritage (non-hybride) seeds. Beans, peas and squash are best. Then consider corn (field and pop), grains like wheat, rye and oats and onions. This is my list because it is easier to harvest and store the seeds. Your list might be different. Learn to identify, harvest and store native plants in your area of the country for vegetables and fruits. Also, if you have the room and shelter, chickens and rabbits are the best animals to raise on small plots. Organize any willing neighbors into coops for survival and protection. Always consider the needs of the old and impared in your immediate sphere.
    Keep the ideas coming folks!

  • Dell

    dry your vegetables and fruit, will last longer. keep gallons of water at all tines. too bad we don’t have cellars these days. And well hidden, that you only know it’s place. Times will get worse than is now, like tanks coming down our streets, as Mr O said, if your old amd something wrong with you, not productive, he will have you elimated.
    Is the government trying to forse Jesus Christ to come back?
    After John Baptist there were no more prophets.
    John was the for runner to tell about Jesus Christ. Jesus came. died for you and me his blood goes forward and backward. you need to recognize Him. We are going to be tested from the government.

    • Teresa

      Mormons believe the Lord has restored prophets to the earth in these last days. The current prophet of the church today is President Monson a kind, loving and generous man who lives close to my childhood home in SLC. I only mention this to respond to the individual expressing concern over John the Baptist being the last of the Lord’s prophets on earth as most Christians still believe. Is there any other religion out there you guys know of that believe in living prophets in the latter days?

      • Deborah

        Catholics, just check out the book of revelations (apocalypse) Chapter 11 verse 3 check even the chapter before that maybe

  • Teresa

    Another thought…..good durable and comfy shoes/boots and especially mole skin and anti bacterial ointment for blisters. Ask a foot soldier how important good footwear is! Also, haven’t heard much about the importance of sprouts in our survival list. Bestform of active live enzymes as sprout contains most nutrients needed for it’s growth while it is in the sprout stage. I prefer a product form Life Sprouts out of Lofan, Utha. $128 for a 50 lb bag bit also available in 6 lb buckets or by the pound or ounce. http://Www.life sprouts.com. They also carry a ton of other seeds for sprouting such as mung, alfalfa, etc.

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