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Florida Doctor: Supporters Of Obama Should ‘Seek Care Elsewhere’

April 8, 2010 by  

Florida doctor: Supporters of Obama should 'seek care elsewhere'A Florida doctor who strongly condemns the recently passed healthcare reform bill is encouraging Obama supporters to seek medical care at another physician’s office. Dr. Jack Cassell, a Mount Dora urologist and registered Republican, posted a message on his office door late last week stating, "If you voted for Obama…seek urologic healthcare elsewhere."

Despite Representative Alan Grayson’s (D-Fla.) threats to file a formal ethics complaint against the urologist, Cassell is standing by his political statement, and is encouraging doctors around the country to take a stand against a piece of legislation that he thinks will adversely affect patient care.

"I got a little discouraged when I found that most of the ancillary services and nursing homes and diagnostic imaging, all these things start to fade away," he told Fox News.

Specifically, Cassell objects to the Medicare cuts in the current bill that will effectively put a stop to hospice services and end of life care.

"Not only do they want you to die at a younger age, but they want you to die a slow and painful death as well," he noted.

Cassell said he will not take the sign down despite mounting opposition from liberals around the country.
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  • JeffH

    This is another great story and once again the “SS thug” mentality of Grayson is exposed again and again and again. This guy make Rahm Emanuel seem like a choir boy. They must really love his Chicago Mafia mentality in Florida.

    Cassell said he will not take the sign down despite mounting opposition from liberals around the country. He also said he is sworn by the Hippocratic Oath to not turn patients away. He also said if they read the sign and turn away, that is their choice, not his and so be it.

    • eyeswideopen

      This Dr. has an implied contract with those that he is or has been treating. Putting up that sign and denying a continuance of care, has now put his rear end in deep trouble. If anyone dies, due to not being able to get into a new Doctor right away, that man is liable and will be sued. Maybe the Mount Dora police if called to his house will ask him who he voted for prior to helping him, walking away if they don’t like his answer. Leaving him in the same kind of lurch that he has left his patients in. Now we see the real integrity and ethics of the radical right.

      • JeffH

        Your comment shows, again, that you are just a complete idiot. He has turned no one away and has said as much. I watched the interview with him. If they choose to not enter his office and seek his care, that is on them, not him. GEEZ, always try to lie about things. Where did you get your law degree?
        Tell me what your opinion is of Grayson? That, I’s like to hear! MORON!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JeffH,
          she is not a moron!! She is a less-on!!!! There is nothing more on about her!!!! She is always less-on anything she comments on!!!!

          • JeffH

            We were both wrong. She is a CLING-ON!

          • TIME

            Perhaps even a WackOn that clingson to being moreoff.

        • eyeswideopen

          Jeff, the sign says, “If you voted for Obama, seek urologic healthcare elsewhere”. He didn’t say if you are under my care, I will continue treating you until you can find a doctor. My Neighbor is attorney. He is laughing his rear off, as this guys is going to pay big time and he shouldn’t be practicing medicine. Doctors aren’t supposed to see color, race, religion, sex. He isn’t a doctor, he is a politician. But you and the conservatives can claim him, and pray you don’t ever make him mad, think if you were under the knife and he didn’t like the books you read!!!! Scary. LMAO.

          • JeffH

            You obviously never saw his interview, I did! You’re an idiot. I won’t try to explain it to you because you obviosly have a learning disorder. As for your “lawyer neighbor”, I believe you lied again and don’t have one. Until he refuses care to someone that voted for O’idiot, patient or not, he hasn’t violated any laws. You’re such a mental midget!

          • Chuck

            Color… Nope not based on color

            Race….. Nope not based on race

            Religion… Not based on Religion. Unless Obama worship is a religion.

            Sex… Not based on sex.

            See – the problem is that he has done nothing wrong. The simple fact that there are trial lawyers lining up and wanting to put someone up to suing him is evidence of just how absurd our system is, and shows how the liberal elites try to influence our country.

          • cr747

            Eyeswideopen,,
            As an attorney Dr..Cassell has not done anything wrong..As he stated on numerous news affiliates,,he is not refusing service to anyone..He is simply stating what he believes..His door is not locked,,and people are free to enter..He has not broken any more LAWS than the members of congress,,and the President of the United States of America has by deliberating,,and passing this Health Care Bill that is against The Constitution of The United States of America..You will see very shortly that this HCB will be exonerated before the Supreme Court,,if it gets that far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • eyeswideopen

            cr747, what are you still doing on this site?? They didn’t pick you up for revealing classified information about the WMD’s that you supposedly flew out of Iraq to Canada?? How old are you? Who should be at the controls during the critical phase of a flight? Since you came on this site bragging that you flew WMD’s out of Iraq, I have shown all the Vet’s I know your statement and they laughed out loud about the “Wanna Bee” military pilot. First thing out of their mouths was that no military pilot would be stupid enough to ever give any information out about his mission, especially on an internet site which is monitored. So, dude, I am calling you on your lie. You are not a pilot and you did not transport WMD’s from Iraq to Canada.
            YOU ARE A LIAR!!! You and Berbroini the fake Ph.D should hook up and start a business together. LMAO!!! Vet’s who have had classified missions never devulge information about them at all, until the government declassifies them. We are still at war, so your bragging did you in with your stupid statement.

          • cr747

            eyeswideopen,,
            when you are the best in what you do,,you are asked to do a lot of things that would flip your wig if you knew just half of what goes on..You can bet if need to I will protect you,,and all of the people of The United States..

            All though I am a reserve there is a lot that I still do for the USA..Get used to it..What is so hard about that??

            As I said once before,,I might have been born at night,,but it wasn’t last night..I know what can be released as news,,and what can’t,, lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • cr747

            eyeswideopen,,
            Thanks for calling me a liar,,that shows just how smart you are..I gave you an e-mail site to go to to read about the WMD”s,,did you not go there???????????????????????????

          • Lana

            You say he is not a doctor but a politician by putting up a sign which is granted by our 1st amendment in our constitution. However, I see nothing in our constitution giving our politicians the right to practice or dictate medicine. It seems to me you have it backwards, this doctor is not playing politician it is our politicians playing doctor and trying to control our doctors and our lives when it comes to healthcare. And as far as the doctor being in trouble I honestly believe when elections are here again you will see that it is the current politicians that are in trouble. I live in Brevard and if I need urology care I will travel to this doctor to show him my support

      • Flynn

        What is the problem here? The good doctor has a right to treat whomever he pleases, just as the patient has a right to seek out any doctor he chooses, the current unconstitutional health care law notwithstanding.

        • Michelle

          Great comment and right on! He hasn’t refused anyone treatment and anyone who reads the sign and decides on their own not to seek his treatment is making their own decision. He’s not asking when they come in to the office if they voted for Obama, so he isn’t refusing care. Doctors can turn away patients because they don’t accept Medicare or Medicaid patients and that’s okay. Aren’t they doing exactly what you are accusing Dr. Cassell of?

          • JeffH

            Michelle, being rational isn’t an alternative to the naysayers. It’s just way to simple for their advanced minds.

          • Claire

            Michelle– You are correct when you say some doctors will not take patients on Medicare/Medicaid. As far as this doctor refusing to see Obama supporters, that is his perogative. Heck, if I were a doctor, there would probably be some people I wouldn’t want to have as patients. For example, criminals.

          • eyeswideopen

            Michelle, shows what you know. Ever heard of abandonment? read the links and educate yourself.
            http://medical-malpractice.lawyers.com/Where-Is-Your_Doctor_When_You-Need-Him-Most.html

            http://brainblogger.com/2008/07/27/medicine-and-the-law-part5-abandonment/
            This doctor didn’t even have enough class to discharge a patient correctly…You people who don’t like any laws or regulations, this doctor is the reason we have to have them. Medical Professionalism defination is as follows: “requires that doctors adhere to certain principled responsibilities, chief amoung them, the primary of patient welfare and the SUBORDINATION OF SELF INTEREST” That means politics should never come into play.
            A doctor must notify a patient and transfer care to another acceptable doctor if planning to withdraw care. The doctor may be charged with negligent abandonment for ending the relationship with a patient without appropriate referral, transfer or discharge. This doctor should get out of the profession.

          • JeffH

            Big mouth, look into the mirror, nobodys home. You are so off subject a two year old could figure it out. Spin baby spin…

            When those prominent in the status quo turn and label you an ‘agitator’ they are completely correct, for that is, in one word, your function—to agitate to the point of conflict.” p.117 in Rules for Radicals

        • coal miner

          Eyes,

          I thought we got rid of that moron.I think Cr474 and Bev should go in business selling snake oil.I hear it is highly profitable.I can see it now,PhD truck driver and air plane pilot Cr474.Oh, I almost forgot,DaveH head of security,He can bust strikes.What a brain.He had five cars that caught on fire. They must had seen this turkey comming.In his view scab cars don’t do that,union cars do.WOW!PLEASE REMEMBER THE COAL MINERS AND THEIR FAMILIES.

          • cr747

            coal miner,,
            you just won the dunce for a day award..You need to get that methane out of your system,,and learn a little more before discarding someone..Ha!! You an eyeswideopen deserve each other..Are you two kin??

            God Bless America,,and oh yes God show coal miner that you are God of the Universe..He worships satan,,which is not real bright on his part!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • JeffH

            cr747 hit ‘em where the sun don’t shine!

          • Claire

            My prayers and thoughts are with the families of the coal miners. Tragic situation. The company should have put the safety of their employees first. From what I hear, the company thought it was cheaper to pay the fines rather than protect their workers. If this is indeed true, then this company is lower than a snake.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            This statement from our resident scabber who joined the union instead of defending his country!!! The same one that gives a different story of it every time he speaks of it!!! The one that says he won’t buy anything not made here in the U.S., yet he tries to bug us on a foreign made computer!!!! Says he’s bought about seven of them!!! Go back to the hills ole’ man!!!

          • cr747

            coal miner,, Whose the MORON?? You do not even know your plane sizes,,it is not a 474 that I own..I have never heard of a 474..The planes I own are 747′s..Now if you had a little more intelligence this would be worth arguing about,,but since you don’t know anything about me,,or planes,,The ones I flew in Nam where the F-4 Phantom II 2 seater which we used for dog fighting,,and also flew the McDonnel F-4 Phantom,,and the Douglas A-4 skyhawks with the latter two being flown off of the bigger Flat Top Ships..There is no use in me wasting my time with such a looser as you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • coal miner

            Claire,

            Thank you, for the compasion you showed for those unfortunate coal miners.When I retired,mines were safe and a good place to work.All of them were unionized.I hope their deaths aren’t in vain.What I am seeing now, is Perry County all over again.This was not only a total disregard for human life,but cold blooded murder as well.There were 450 violations and some on this blog said it wasn’t the scab mine owners’ fault.The miners should have known better.They knowed it was unsafe,when they started to work there.Lets bring back the unions and make mines safe,and in factories as well.

          • Claire

            coal miner — Union or no union. The safety of the coal miners are first and foremost. The owners of this company should be held accountable. If I had anything to do with it, they would be in a heck of a lot of trouble. I would be going “after” them. I would make sure they could never pull this stunt again.

          • Claire

            coal miner – You said the miners should have known better. The coal miners no doubt NEEDED their jobs. They had to make a living and sometimes a person does what they feel they have to do in life. And perhaps this is the only line of work that they know or want to do. It is still negligence on the part of the company.

      • David Long

        Don’t Doctors take an oath to “do no harm”? Interesting irony. this Doctor “claims” that people will receive less care because of the health care reform, and he goes out (with his sign and policy) reducing health care for people. It is indeed unethical!

      • Mike In MI

        Hey, JeffH -

        You’ve got to take into account the basis of the problem faced by EWO and other liberals. She’s right that doctors are ethically bound to take patients and not refuse care on the basis of “race, religion, color or sex”. The law doesn’t say anything about being “liberal” and they see themselves as a breed apart. I suspect there may be some legitimacy to this being a concern. They obviously don’t see themselves being bound by the normal rules and relationships that govern ordinary mortals on thei earth – just look at the programs Congress is trying to enact under their domination. They’ll never work under the rules and principles set up by God for region of the space time continuum we live in.
        Besides, studies have been conducted to find out where the highest fequencies of various diseases are in the nation. Once that was done somebody got the crazy idea to super impose a grid based on political demographics. Guess whose political leanings coincided with the highest disease rates. Democrats and LIBERAL voting areas won hands down. Mental disorders of various sorts were in very high correspondence.

        Now, anybody who knows the Bibe could have told you that in a heartbeat. Just on the basis of God’s Word it’s predictable. Why? It’s only logic. Well, in II Timoth 1:7 it says, “For God has not given us the spirit of fear; but, of power and of love and of a sound mind.” I never yet met a lib who believes the Word. They may believe “in” God, but that’s a far cry from “believing” God. So, they don’t have that spirit. Ergo, they can’t have the sound mind that is supposed to go with that spirit. So, since a sound mind is a sane mind they must be what?

        Insane. See… even God thinks they’re nuts!!!! He’s just too nice to say it in an unkind way.

        • Mike In MI

          I forgot:

          It is a literal Truth, documented by the Word of God(several places):

          Liberalism is a Mental Disease. Rampant unsound minded insanity.

        • TIME

          Mike, All valid points, I have always liked the statment, (That if it were not for double standards they would have no standards at all.)

        • coal miner

          Claire,

          I didn’t say the coal miner should have known better,reread my statement,I am quoting what some insensitive bloggers said.Withnout a union it would be virtually impossible to keep mines safe.Prevention comes first, once it happens you can’t cure the accident.With govenmental budget cuts there are far too few federal mine inspectors,making it very difficult to inspect all the mines.They usually come once a year and enough hush money,they do spots checks and move on.Some don’t even bother going inside of the mines.Factories and coal mines need unions,without them you got violations of safety and rights.Both go hand and hand.

          • JeffH

            With govenmental budget cuts? Now that would be a new innovation for government.

      • CharlesD

        The Doctor is not putting anyone in risk. You always have the choice to go to another doctor. The only thing putting people at risk is the so called health care bill now law. I don’t have health insurance and I have never been denied health care. I think the doctor is correct in his statements on the HC that was forced upon us. I have fired doctors because I didn’t think they were doing the right thing. So why can’t a doctor tell some patients, “it might be better for you to go someplace else”.

      • del

        “Maybe the Mount Dora police if called to his house will ask him who he voted for prior to helping him, walking away if they don’t like his answer.” Once again you write from your rear end instead of your head. Not being a spear chunking fan like you and every other idiot that voted for Obummer. I am sure he believes in the 2nd and can defend himself rather than cowering down screaming for help into the phone.

      • American Citizen

        He could have just closed his practice. It’s called freedom of choice. He’s letting people know how he feels about Obamacare. Notice, he menrioned the ‘death panels” in so many words. Not directly the words, but the meaning.

      • Robert Wayne

        Another left wing scumbag hypocrite. They were all yelling and screaming about how happy they were when they thought Rush Limbaugh’s health was life threatening awhile back. Now they’re ready to lynch that doctor because he has every right in the world to pick his patients. And if I were a doctor I wouldn’t want to treat any of the morons who voted for or support that communist crook Obama either!!!

      • LAConfidential

        eyeswideopen – your lawyer neighbor doesn’t know diddly about the medical community. Doctors have a right to FIRE patients. That’s right – discontinue care to them at will for whatever reason they see fit. If you’re a whack-a-doo, and the doctor doesn’t want to deal with you, he will refer you to another physician. The Hypocratic Oath does not mandate that ONE specific doctor provide care to ONE specific patient. It merely relates that a medical practitioner should give the best possible care to his/her patient while that patient is still breathing. That’s not to say that better care cannot be provided by a DIFFERENT physician and this will be difficult to prove; especially if not in a life-or-death situation. You see – unlike YOU – this doctor read the portions of the health care bill that will affect him and his practice and he is using his FIRST amendment right to protest this garbage legislation as it will PROHIBIT him to providing the best possible care to his patients, which in following the provisions of the new bill will actually countermand his Hypocratic Oath.

        • JeffH

          LAConfidential, even a caveman can understand it.

          • usmadgirl

            JeffH,

            “Unbelievable! Where’s my coat? It’s the suede with the fringe!”

        • Bob in Beijing

          LA Confidential,

          Thank you for the excellent post.

        • eyeswideopen

          La, read my post above. There are certain things that a doctor must do when discharging you…. he can’t just post a sign on the door telling you he doesn’t want you as a patient because of how you voted.

          • JeffH

            Yes he can…it’s called “freedom of speech” HAH! Last I heard it was still legal…HAH!

      • BOE

        Eyes..that`s all you people can think about!..What you can get out of someone else for free. Sue Sue for money that is not yours. What`s the matter, your welfare check hasn`t come yet?? You damn liberials all what evryone elses money. Entitled?? Go to work!!

        • eyeswideopen

          Boe, unlike others on this site, I don’t get Medicare or SS disability payments, nor food stamps. I take care of my family extremly well, and I don’t really understand how you who are participating in socialized government provided healthcare and disability can ever ridicule or pass judgement on anyone else. I work, don’t you remember that only the liberals have all the jobs?? Since I am an Independent, they decided I could keep my business and continue to make a good living. LOL. I suspect that you are the one without a job. Some poll just stated that majority of Tea Partiers are unemployed and that is why they are so angry and acting radical. You must be a tea partier? I am sorry you aren’t employed, but a republican senator is stopping your unemployment checks not me.

          • zack

            Eyes I believe you are jealous some are getting medicaid, and medicare and you are not. Such pity, what a shame, just thinking of yourself, and no one else. Well some people are like that, that is why they don’t have any friends on here.

    • Claire

      JeffH–My friend in Florida really likes Grayson, and she is a Republican. She says he says what he thinks and does not beat around the bush. (No pun intended.) I have heard him a few times, I do believe he would go after Obama too if he doesn’t agree with him. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

      • eyeswideopen

        Claire, alot of the Repubs in Fl like him, as he calls a spade a spade and didn’t take any lobbyist money to get elected. He used his own money, so he doesn’t owe anybody anything as far as favors go. He returns your calls and letters, and actually thinks that he represents the people. He is a multimillionaire, and felt that he should give back to the state that he made his riches off of. Some of my family live in Orlando, and even tho they are repubs they voted for him.

        • s c

          Orbs closed, by your own choice you make the same mistakes most ultraliberal progressives make when they dare to open their mouth(s). That is, there is a big difference between a ‘Repub’ and a conservative. A Repub is a political switch-hitter (not unlike morons like Specter and McCain).
          A conservative is not afraid of common sense. A conservative will call a spade a spade – without checking a poll first. A conservative worships freedom. The main difference between what you see as political ‘truth’ and what a conservative sees as political truth is the bottom line.
          We KNOW why the Constitution is so important to freedom. You and your ilk never understood it, you have no use for it, and you are ‘naive’ enough to think we will sit back, smile and flock to your open tent to become ‘friends’ (on YOUR terms, of course).
          May your tent be the breeding grounds for all manner of pests. May your tent be used as the amorous resort of elephants in rut. May your tent be seen as the home of every type of perversity and subhuman acvtivity known since the first human walked the planet.
          We don’t need no ‘estinkin’ tent. May you someday
          find a better, more positive path. The way you’re headed, you have no chance because you never TEST your icons. When/if you find your way, your icons will have much to fear. For now, THEY control YOU. That is NOT freedom.

          • Mike In MI

            s. c.

            Don’t put it, “may your tent be”. It already is and I ain’t goin’ in hat briar patch.

          • Claire

            sc –”May your tent” — your comments made me think about something I heard years ago…

            “May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits.”

            It was funny as heck way back when but probably sounds goofy now.

          • eyeswideopen

            sc, conservatives have been masquerading as repubs and vice versa since someone came up with the idea that the conservatives can’t get into office, so let’s just ride on the republican coat tails, get into office and try to stay there. If that isn’t true how do you account for all the conservative think tanks employing all the republicans who are no longer in office? Check out the political designation of the directors, ceo’s of: Heritage Foundation, Americans for Prosperity, Citizens for Sound Policy, Cato, Inst. Freedom Works. Every single one of them are Republicans playing like they are Conservatives. You people need to research your own people and understand that they represent you!!! By the way what is Ron Paul legally known by in the Senate? His designation is REPUBLICAN, not conservative or libertarian, but Republican. You are hypocritical.

      • JeffH

        Claire, that would be the problem I have with Grayson. He’s well known to speak his mind when it suits him. Grayson obviously supports Obama’s agenda and to me that speaks volumes about the man.
        He’s not afraid to speak before he thinks, or his temper is such that he can’t restrain himself. I see the same thing in Pelosi, Reid and Obama as well as many RINOs.

        • Claire

          Jeff H — I remember the first time I heard him I did a double-take. I thought Whoa!! He was very outspoken, not mad or anything. Just very blunt in his speaking. And he was going after the Dems too.

      • JeffH

        Claire, this link was posted further down and shed light on this matter. I found the article comforting and enlightening to read, and goes into great detail about Grayson and Dr. Cassel.
        http://baledger.com/articles/2010/04/08/opinion/doc4bbc859c2ae29427494543.txt

        • Claire

          Jeff H — I read this article. Very informative. I still like the guy’s courage to say what he thinks regardless of party affiliation. And I still think he would take on Obama and any other Democrat if the situation arose. But then again, “speak softly and carry a big stick” has some merit too.

    • Hugh Jordin

      This Doctor should switch to proctology. That way he only has to treat anuses like himself.

      • American Citizen

        A doctor’s practice is a business most like any other and he/she has a right to accept or reject a “customer”. That’s the problem with people in this country, they think they have a “right” to health care.

        • Doc Sarvis

          Why shouldn’t people be able to get the health care that they need?

          • JeffH

            The better question is; why should government have the right to use an IRS armed force that can force anyone to get mandated health care?

          • Doc Sarvis

            Actually, I think my question is much better – more fundamental.

  • Bob Wire

    Moron? “”Moron” was coined in 1910 by psychologist Henry H. Goddard[3] from the Ancient Greek word μωρός (moros), which meant “dull” (as opposed to “sharp”), and used to describe a person with a mental age in adulthood of between 8 and 12 on the Binet scale.[4] It was once applied to people with an IQ of 51-70, being superior in one degree to “imbecile” (IQ of 26-50) and superior in two degrees to “idiot” (IQ of 0-25). The word moron, along with others including “retarded”, “idiotic”, “imbecilic”, “stupid”, and “feeble-minded”, was formerly considered a valid descriptor in the psychological community, but it is now deprecated by psychologists.[5]

    The note on the door read , “, “If you voted for Obama…seek urologic healthcare elsewhere.” That pretty clear to me that this man has little interest in health care

    So who is calling who a moron?

    let see ~ you had another laps of being able to articulate yourself and resorted to “name calling” Quote;”Your comment shows, again, that you are just a complete idiot.”

    Jeff do you think you might make the effort to control your strong desire to assign people labels you don’t agree and keep the conversation above a 3th grade level?

    If you are luck enough to reach maturity you learn to control your tongue. It not wise to speak everything you think.

    This Doctor has the same problem you do ~ if both of you ran the world it wouldn’t be worth spit. Even you ~ would find it a most unpleasant place to live.

    • JeffH

      Bob Wire, did you happen to see the doctor’ interview? If you did, then you would have realized that he said if someone came through the door seeking his services, he would not turn them away because he has taken the hippocratic oath.

      I really don’t give a flip what you have say about anything. I call it as I see it, right, wrong or indifferant and your opinion is just that, your opinion.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDia2d8GTXM

    • JeffH

      Oh Bob Wire, forgot to tell you that you can just bite my right nut!
      That coming fro a 60 yo mature gentleman.

      Now have at it!

      • http://personalliberty PFFFF

        You a gentleman…maybe in stone age times.

        • JeffH

          My reply is PFFFF!

        • eyeswideopen

          PFFF, did you notice that Jeff has a need to have someone always biting him? lol

          • TIME

            So what; I wear a hat thats says BITE ME, if some one was stupid enough to bite me – I would make that their last act ever.
            As thats a clear case of “assault with a deadly weapon”,
            Or the – Vampire tooth syndrone. LOL…….

      • Hugh Jordin

        The doctor should become a cosmetic proctologist and take you on as a patient. Perhaps he can make even a narrow minded, hate filled anus like you look good.

        • JeffH

          Now now Hughly, no hate in these bones. You sure got a fetish about the anus. Try removing your head from yours, you might just get a look at the real world.

          • Hugh Jordin

            You need a plexiotomy-

            That new procedure involving implanting a plexiglas window in the abdomen, so people whose heads are crammed in their colons can see.

          • JeffH

            …as I said before, a fetish or fixation on your part.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            JeffH,
            I wonder if the kind Dr. can come up with a cure for libbers. They are sure making me get pizzed off!!! I mean, he IS a urologist!!!

          • JeffH

            Yeah, I think they are called “libber” pills and you can buy them over the counter. Guarnteed or your money back…

    • http://Thefactis,,, Connie

      The doctor is continuing to see patients as usual. He is not breaking his Hypocratic oath, he is making a statment. Nor is he placing a hardship on the community since there are other urologists in the town. Since when are we not permitted to say what we believe? I notice that Grayson allows himself that privilage!

      • marypat

        I admire this Doc Cassell’s courage and knowledge to voice his concerns about the crazy healthcare plan coming down on all of us. He’s right to encourage other docs to educate their patients on some huge fundamantal changes in healthcare. I want to mention to those who are not so savy about healthcare ,please google urologist and find out what type of Doctors they are. He doesn’t care for those in emengent situations. I don’t recommend a trip to his office for any emergency as they will call an amulance and have you shipped to the nearest ER. Good luck navigationg the healthcare system after this,because I have a feeling specialist like him will be far and few between and we’ll more than likely see diseases that were prevalent in the 50′s rearing their ugly heads. It will be up to you to google symptoms and diagnose yourself, until you are able to get an appointment with the helper of the Primary Docs.

        • Mary T. Del Buono

          Sad days are here…now we will not only pay extra for this medical service??? oh…dear me….what ever it is going to be now…paper paper everywhere and not a stethiscope anywhere…
          Now our prez wants us to pay for more taxes…a fed. purchase tax…on top of our state taxes … woowooo…happy days are here again…oh well…signing out here…God Help us…God Bless our former America

  • Bob Wire

    The Hippocratic Oath (Modern Version)[10]
    “ I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:

    I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

    I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

    I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon’s knife or the chemist’s drug.

    I will not be ashamed to say “I know not,” nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient’s recovery.

    I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

    I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person’s family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

    I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

    I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

    If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.

    So maybe he should have been a plumber?

    • Claire

      Don’t mention the word “plumber” to me. I had to have a plumber this past week. They charged $ 123.00 an hour for labor, and it was during working hours. I couldn’t believe it. And all the trouble was under the kitchen sink. No wonder the world is in such a mess. I call it GREED. I should have been a plumber.

      • Jimmy G

        You should have fixed your plumbing yourself, kept track of your time and see what you would have saved per hour.

        • Claire

          Jimmy G — You darn right I’ll fix things myself from now on. I am capable of fixing a lot of things.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Claire,
            your plumber was probably a DR. before he was a plumber!!!!

          • Claire

            Joe H — You may be right about that. LOL

      • Mike In MI

        Claire, ??? Why, if it’s “GREED” for the plumber to charge you $123.00 per hour and you’re mad about it, would you say, “Maybe I should have been a plumber”? You didn’t want to dig around in that nasty trap or you didn’t have the knowledge to do it. Sort of like a Urology Clinic, isn’t it? If you’re unwise enough to let your sewer system get backed up you may have to pay what the man wants for his time…and skills, and tools…and truck…and helpers…and replacements…and taxes…and insurances…and – and – and.

        And Obama is making all of that about twenty times bigger for all of us because his bill will come too.

        • Claire

          Mike in Mi — I had a leak below the kitchen sink, they came and “fixed” it. An hour later I checked and it was spraying water. I called, they came back and said I needed a new valve. My sewer wasn’t “backed up.” I am grousing about it since they should have fixed it correctly in the beginning. Especially since they charge the way they do. Greed??!! I believe greed is the cause of most of America’s problems.

          • Mike In MI

            Oh, um, OK – sorry. I take it back. You had a right to be real torqued off. I would have been, too. That’s part of why I got appropriate tools, some household repairs books, supplies and the attitude, “If a human being dreamed it up and put it together, I can probably take most things apart, fix ‘em and put ‘em back together. Maybe not as fast, but man it’s a lot more satisfying.”

          • JeffH

            Mike, Claire is a wonderful person and very neutral minded. A great participant. Oh, she also raises shorthaired pointers which are an important part of her family and her life.

          • Claire

            Jeff H — Bless your heart. You know the way to my heart! Speaking of the dogs, I am checking into a web site/Facebook. I will let you know on this.

          • JeffH

            I hope you know I’d just love to meet the family, oh, and you and your hubby too. lol!

      • eyeswideopen

        Claire, it is the “free market” at work. Plumbers get paid what the market will bare.

  • Claire

    Cuts to Medicare? Are we absolutely sure about this? My Blue Cross Blue Shield supplement was raised. I have never used it. I have had no surgeries of any kind, and the cost still increases. I have a feeling things are getting worse and worse.

    • JeffH

      This is just the tip of the iceberg. I “heard” yesterday that the nations insurance companies swithboards are inundated with callers asking when they can get their “free” health care. Little do they know that their “free” health care isn’t “free”, they’ll have to start paying for it now but won’t recieve the “free” health care for 4 years. Those that can’t afford health care will be put on Medicaid.

    • cr747

      Hello Claire,,Jeff H,,and the rest of you honest people,,
      I took two weeks off,,and spent time with my family,,and some friends..We flew to the ranch and spent four days and three nights out away from phones,,traffic,,and the bright lights..Loaded up the wagons,,saddled our horses,,and spent the time away on the ranch..It felt so good to rough it for a while..

      Yes,,things are going to get a little bit out of the ordinary very shortly..The Democrats are finally reading what they voted on,,and are having second thoughts..I knew this was going to happen,,but you can not tell someone who at the same time their palm is being padded..It is with shame that what we have in Washington is so greedy,,and believing that they would vote on something with only Pelosi,,Reid,,and Obamas assurance that they where doing the American people a great favor..

      I kept telling some that they where doing the wrong thing,,but as I have always said,,””money talks,,and bull—-walks..””

      As the song goes back in the sixties or seventies,,WHOSE SORRY NOW??

      Hope God Has Blessed all of you..You are in my prayers..
      God Bless,,and God Bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • JeffH

        cr747 SUP? Good to hear from you…did ya see the big mouth rant attack on ya further up? It musta’ broke a fingernail or somebody stepped on it’s tail and really pissed it off.

        • cr747

          JeffH,,
          That’s all eyeswideopen knows is being pissed off..It does not bother me to the least..She probably would holler if we agreed with her..Can’t be satisfied..Sure would hate to have to live with something like that..Hell I wouldn’t even want to live on the same block!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • JeffH

            …easy big guy, I can only laugh so long before I lose my breath.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            cr747,
            Asthe lady Claire said the other day(quite tongue in cheek,I’m sure)” better to be pi..ed off than pi..ed on!” Poor googleeyes!!!

          • cr747

            Joe H,,
            Good quote there,,that is probably eyeswideopens problem..She has been pi–ed on,,and now she is pi–ed off..Have to overlook someone like that..They have to be living a miserable life knowing they have no friends,,so they show it with temper-tantrums..coal miner lives in the same world..He has to be miserable to with the way he comments on here..He thinks he can scare someone off line by bad mouthing them..Childish,,that’s all it is.. The old saying sticks and stones may break my bones,,but words will never harm me..I look over people of their caliber..It does not bother me at all..I kinda think it is funny for them to show everyone how childish they are..Everyone gets a big laugh out of it any way..

            If they had to take the remarks,,and “yes cursing” that I had to take while in flight training,,they would have called mommy to come and get them..They for sure couldn’t have took it..Made me a much stronger,,and better person,,and I learned to respect my seniors,,and instructors..Also learned to take it without getting upset about it..Just like now,,it does not bother me at all what someone says or believes..That is their prerogative,,they have the right to doubt,,but only to make fools out of themselves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Claire

          Jeff H — LOL I have to laugh at your comment–”or somebody stepped on its tail and really pi—- it off.” I remember one time I was looking for mushrooms, stepped on the tail of a hog-nosed snake and it sure raised up and struck at me. It was scary as heck. I must have really pi—- it off. I thought I was going to have a heart attack. My heart was almost beating out of my chest. Have you ever seen a hog-nosed snake? Terrible looking head on them.

          • JeffH

            Funny but I bet it wasn’t too funny at the time. I don’t think we have hog nosed snakes in California. We have gopher snakes that look similar to a rattlesnake and their defense mechanism is to coil up and wiggle their tail like a rattler. I’ve run from them before I could recognize what they were.

      • JeffH

        WHOSE SORRY NOW…Connie Francis?

        • cr747

          JeffH,,
          Right on Brother..Liked that song,,and Connie Francis to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Claire

            cr747– Another good song is “Everybody Wants to Rule the World” by Tears for Fears. A good song from the ’80s.

      • Claire

        cr747– Hi!! You’re back!! Hope you will be here for awhile and everything is going great with you.

        • cr747

          Hi Claire,,
          Want to tell you what a sweetheart I thank you are..You are so good with your comments,,and I know it is hard for you at times,,and yes a lot more of you on here also..

          You know,,life is to precious,,and to short for the way some on here show their,,”should I say ignorance,,”or do they just don’t know any better way to blow off their anger that has built up all through the week with,,maybe family,,friends,,or work..I can’t live like that..As I have told a lot of young people with anger problems,,seek help now,,and one way to do that is join a branch of service,,and they will remove that anger from you..ONE WAY OR THE OTHER..The other is not good.. God Bless all Of You,,and God Bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Claire

            cr747 — Yes indeed, life is too precious to even waste one moment!!
            I agree with you about kids entering the military, it does teach them self-control. My son joined the Air Force after high school. I remember very clearly the first time he came home on leave. He had changed so much. He was so “grown up” that I wept. I wept because he was no longer a “little boy.” I wept with happiness because he had grown to be a fine young adult. He became a young man that I was and still am very proud of. He was in it for 4 years and ended up in the Air Guard for 12 years. During this time he went to college and excelled in ALL mathematics and received his degree in engineering. He has worked for IDOT for many years now and the blueprints he draws are mindboggling. If anyone drives on I55 and its tributaries, think of my son!! But if there are any potholes, it is up to the state of Illinois to maintain the roads!! He just designs them. The military is good for young boys. I would recommend the miltary for every young boy.

          • zack

            Claire,,
            God Bless your Son for his service..It’s great to here a great story like that..I do know it is hard to realize how they mature in such a short time..

            Proud for him becoming an Engineer for Illinois Dept..Of Trans..Sounds like he has a great career ahead for Him..
            God Bless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • cr747

            Claire, I know you are proud of your son for serving..It does make them grow into an adult fast..I remember when I came home from boot camp my Mom couldn’t believe the change that I had made..She was so proud that she called all the family in for a cookout..We had a blast,,but the hard work was yet to start..Flight training..I had been flying since I was 13 years old at our local small time airport,,and it was such fun that I knew that was what I wanted in life!!!!!!!!!

          • Claire

            cr747– I do have to admit that shortly after he graduated from high school, he came home one day and told me and my husband that he had enlisted in the Air Force. I almost had a stroke. I did not want him to go!! But my husband accepted it. He did not have any problems with Tim enlisting. Then on the day he left and we had to take him to the airport (where the 183rd is located) I was so worried. He had never been away from home like that, and I just couldn’t imagine him leaving for such a long time! It was all I could do to keep from crying when we said our goodbyes. But I sure did squall in the car going home! It was hard to let go. What memories.

          • Claire

            cr747 — God bless you and yours.

          • Claire

            zack –And God bless you and yours!

  • s c

    The MD is right. Obummer is wrong (as usual). The retard in Florida sounds he’s stumping for votes to go to Washington. Once again, the loonies are scratching their empty heads that anyone can find a reason to complain when America is being forced to look down the twin barrels of a bastardized ‘healthcare’ system. Wrong is wrong is WRONG, schtuppers.
    Obummer expects everyone to follow behind him like
    lap dogs. Americans are NOT followers of those who are NOT fit to govern.
    The MD was very polite. He didn’t use any bad language, and his assessment of the situation is exact. Obummer has some screws loose if he thinks every half-baked piece of UNREAD, UNFATHOMED legislation that gets passed has been handed down by the gods. Obummer and his mental giants (apparently) didn’t know that convicted sex offenders would have access to viagra [what GENIUS]. If they didn’t know that, then a) they don’t care or b) they’re so damned stupid that they think nothing truly bad can be in that damnable healthcare insanity. I’m betting on ‘b.’ Kindly remember that Haavid isn’t what it used to be. Congress isn’t even close to what it should be, and the current denizens of the White House never knew the difference between winners and losers.
    At the heart of Obummer’s healthcare scam is a diabolical plan to drive caring MDs out of the profession, and make matters even worse. Mental giants, my aching asterisk!

    • JeffH

      What I have seen of Grayson is that he has come across as nothing more than a big mouth bully. I also remember his references about a female lobbyist being a “whore”. Maybe he is a good guy with an obviously big mouth and the discretions of a Democrat.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JeffH,
        I agree with your statement!! Look back a few months at Brown. Everybody thought he was the best thing since sliced bread and all he was was another RINO!!!!

    • eyeswideopen

      s c, you are aware that 83 yr old men are presently approved to get penil implants aren’t you? Does that seem like a good way to spend money? Yep, the men who have always controlled congress voted for that wonderful little procedure. We should kick all of the men out and for a change have this country be run by women. Most of us control the household budgets, work, take care of kids and keep the households running. We mediate fights, and teach our kids how to comprise on issues so that everyone feels like they haven’t lost, because you can’t always get things your own way. Why not use our skills and kick out the old senators who can’t play well together? Women would revise the tax code, judicial system, education system, healthcare, energy and finally get paid what the men do. LMAO and no, this wasn’t an ad for Palin or that nut she is presently hanging out with. Forgive me I am just venting like you did.

      • Michael J.

        EWO,
        So not only do you advocate, “We should kick all of the men out and for a change have this country be run by women.” But you are also saying that these women should be progressive liberal females?
        A sexist and politicaly biased comment all wrapped up in one. How sad for you.

      • Mike In MI

        Oh, EWO -
        Now that really sounds like a great way to teach kids the difference between right and wrong – compromise on everything so no one gets their feelings hurt. Don’t listen to them to see what the dispute is about or determine the issues. Don’t have a standard of right or wrong. Don’t dispense a just solution or establish just instructions for the future. Where there is no justice you will have chaos erupt at some point.

        • eyeswideopen

          Mike, you are not reading or understanding what I said. As ususal as you have a closed mind. You teach children that they can’t always get or have what they want. Life is nothing but comprises and learning to distinguish between wants and needs is a valuable lesson. The entitlement attitude of the younger generation was generated by parents who wanted to be friends with their children and never said no to any of their desires for fear of not having them like them. When children never have to work for results or learn how to comprise they become those who you conservatives hold in such distain. The generation who thinks they are due something. Must be a lot of parents out there like you, who gave your kids everything expecting nothing in return, and now your kids expect to have the income right out of college that most of us took 10-15 years to achieve. ” You betcha”, I think women in general could do a better job at running this country than the present men in control. Who are you more afraid of women or the minorities getting control?? lol.

          • obiwan

            EWS,
            I forwarded your comments to Sarah Palin. She’s comming to “getcha,
            you betcha.” When all the good doctors quit an unprofitable business,
            you can “betcha” life on the mediocre ones.

          • Mike In MI

            Dear EWO,

            There isn’t enough room on this computer to tell you how proud I am of my three kids. One of the first words they learned was,”NO!” and then the phrase, “You ought to think about that. What will happen if you do that?” Two of them worked their way through college – without loans or debt at the end. They have moved ahead and their supervisors fight to keep them in their departments. Yes, they all have jobs, even the one who is still going to college. None of them came home pregnant or with VD or addictions. All were voted captains of high school teams they participated on – none were super athletes (just admired for other qualities). Quit, Mike; I wasn’t going to go on so.

            Hell, why do I bother telling you this stuff?

          • JeffH

            Mike, anything you reveal to this quack is a mistake. She’ll try and try to find a way to corrupt it and then share the info with here little slug like companions.

          • cr747

            eyeswideopen,,
            Give us a break..Where do you come up with all this non-sense,,and anger.. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Claire

            Mike in MI — You stated that you are very proud of your kids and then you said “Why do I bother telling you this stuff?” I want you to know that I respect you for what you have said about your kids. In a lot of instances kids are a reflection their parents. You obviously were/are a good parent.

          • Mike In MI

            Dear Claire,
            Thanks. I humbly and gratefully acknowledge your kind words – especially, coming from a source I’m learning have reason to admire.

            Bless your heart, my dear.

          • Claire

            Mike in MI— I believe good parents are the backbone of the youth of yesterday, today, and the future. Parents are the teachers from infancy until they start school. And then it can become tricky because they learn from other sources and sometimes these sources are not good. Parents have to remain vigilent during the entire growing-up phase. It can be a tough job and parents must never give up, they have to try to do the best they can.

        • JeffH

          Mike, this is the same EWO that is teaching her niece to be a socialist. She often braggs how she turns her niece onto this site just to laugh at the stupid conservative Republican right wingers. Talk about indoctinating and influencing a child.

          • Mike In MI

            Hey, JeffH, Thanks for the heads up on EWO’s niece. It’s good she brings her here. You never know what might happen. The brain of genetically complete people is built to hold reason and truth. These ideas have a way of taking root, springing up and bringing good stuff to fruition. If she reads her Auntie’s life, compares, considers and, then, draws conclusions…who knows?

          • JeffH

            One can only hope for the good.

      • del

        That would be great idea if woman as a whole were capable of rational thought rather than making blind and emotionally motivated decisions. More than likely the reason for Obummer getting into office in the first place.

        • eyeswideopen

          del, you are exactly what the republican/conservative men are all about.
          That is why the dems don’t ever have to worry about Palin or any other female getting to be President. You are all backwards and I bet you have a wife who works, and you still don’t give her credit for her contributions. Eventually you old chauvinstic men will die off and women will finally get their freedom and equality.

          • JeffH

            ”and you are a prime example of what del was talking about…You give women a bad reputation.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          del,
          I disagree and not that I’m agreeing with the myopic witch either. My wife is an international manager and is damn good at what she does. she voted against Obummer, too. she was against him from the start, just like me!!! She has done this for 27 years and will soon retire from it!! I’m damn proud of her ethic and determination!!

      • Robert Wayne

        It depends on who the woman is. I’d vote for Palin in a second. As for that witch Pelosi, the only thing I’d give her is a new broom to fly the hell out of this country.

        • JeffH

          I’ll supply the fuel, a big plate of red beans and rice…and away she goes…

      • zack

        eyes, I see you have loosened up a little bit. So there is hope for a female President. One that would make obama look like the sissy he is. Then vote Palin, an educated, God fearing, female with a whole lot more sense than anyone in Washington, including the looser obama. Now remember I am a democrat to, but I was smart enough not to vote for the looser Obama. I knew he was lying the first time I saw him speak.

        • eyeswideopen

          Zack, sorry, can’t vote for a women whose husband belonged to the radical political party, AIP, took 6 years and five schools to graduate, quit during her term of office, drug her kids around the election circuit for 3 months, doesn’t even know that the VP doesn’t write legislation, whose grandson is on socialized government healthcare and constantly opens her mouth about things she has no concept about. She doesn’t pass any test except she is pretty.

          • JeffH

            Nobody is listening to your lying rampage. On welfare? Get me the link, linkless and put down the proof. Your wild imagination and lying reputation doesn’t qualify as the truth.

          • coal miner

            Eyes,

            I am listening.You always speaks the truth.Sarah Palin is a joke,wait till here looks changes.

          • zack

            coal miner, you need to learn how to spell if you are going to comment on here. Have to inform you that after Obama signed the no nuclear treaty, Sarah Palin’s approval rating has increased dramatically.. Obamas is dropping fast.

          • cr747

            JeffH,,
            Can you believe this,,first she was talking about women taking over the Whitehouse,,and then she comes off the wall,,””can’t vote for a woman,,”” which she misspelled,,and then coal miner says he believes everything she says,,and misspells every other word..Do you think maybe these two dropped out of school at maybe the sixth or seventh grade..Maybe they got kicked out,,and they are still angry at the school that kicked them out..You said it right back earlier,,not very much smarts in these two..Lack of a good education here..

            Cheer up you two,,you are making life rough on yourself by stating one thing,,and then going down the line,,and saying something completely different!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Americal Liberal

      Sc… I think you might be the mental midget if you think Sex offenders will get access to Viagra … Why do you always feel the need to go straight to ” silly”?.. .. I have a 9 yr old nephew who uses the kind of name calling you use… He could probley educate you.. I also don’t doubt that you believe in Death panels…ignorance is Bliss?… So enjoy your bliss..

      • Mike In MI

        AmLib -
        It so happens this issue was one that came up for real. The law as written was going to give Viagra to child molesters and needed to be changed. But, rest assured, this is just the sort of liberal madness that will be found to be a major part of this bill.

        It’s what happens when bills are not discussed, debated, resolved and passed with open and honest commentary from everyone who will be affected by it. This madness is just the first of many disgraces that will show the kind of wisdom available to liberals.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Mike in Mi.
          Just like they overlooked the fact that the kids were left out of the can’t be denied because of preexhisting clause!!!! Will be fixed later but in the meantime……..!

    • Mary T. Del Buono

      I am so discusted…get the government out of my doctors office visit…make the insurnace people make special policies for people with pre-existing illnesses…this will help…funded by the ins. profits that are way over the top…many years ago one company I knew painted the interior of the building every year to use up some of their profits…discusting then…I am sure they do more now…
      We cannot afford to pay for everyone’s medical insurance…what is next…are we all going to have to chip in for people without work?
      Oh wait a min. we already do that sorry…it is the moro in me…woops…please send the politians home on next election…

  • Americal Liberal

    Politics shouldn’t even enter into a Doctors office… I’d have my doubts about any doctor who had his mind on politics instead of treating a humanbeing… If it was reversed I’d feel the Sameway… I wouldn’t want a doctor that conciderd my ballot box vote in treating me… It could very well had said( if you voted for John McCain seek treatment elsewhere… I believe this violates his ethics to be a doctor…

    • johnstake

      American Liberal says that politics shouldn’t enter into a doctors office! Just what does he think that OBAMA CARE does? It places government restraints on what doctors can do, and how they must treat their patients. When anyone negatively impacts the doctor patient relationship or reduces the services to patients with legislation doctors have a duty to inform their patients and the public. I think that his sign clearly states who is responsible for the damage done to the healthcare profession, uninformed voters who put unqualified and unethical persons in the White House and Congress. What is ethical about requiring citizens to fund programs that politicians choose to exempt themselves from? NOT MUCH!

      • Mike In MI

        John, my man, that is absolute genius. And, it goes not only for health care but every other interaction between people. Liberalism is sand in the machinery of the Universe.

    • s c

      Never let anyone accuse you of having lofty morals, AmLib. On the topic of a dictatorial government controlling the economy (via healthcare), I’d like your response on a topic that you just can’t get through your head. Are you aware that the government is so screwed-up that it pays bills submitted by MDs who are DEAD? It has much in common with ‘support’ from dead VOTERS [Chicago-style].
      Overbilling is part and parcel of a system gone mad (compliments of Uncle Scam). You bitch about high drug prices, but the people who make sure prices will stay high are your ICONS. “In a world where politics doesn’t enter the doctor’s office” – give us a break AmLib. You and your ‘peers’ have been hiding behind Mary Poppins’ skirts so long that you don’t have any sense of right and wrong.
      You live in an enforced world of fantasy and anything that ‘feels good.’ I wouldn’t trust you or your icons to flush a toilet (and do it right), let alone run America’s healthcare.
      The day you’re on speaking terms with common sense is the day I’ll believe you give a damn about anyone other than yourself and your schizoid chums.
      You’ve found too many ways to be mind-numbed useful idiots, and you can’t understand how or why anyone refuses to be like you. Enjoy your bliss. True ‘enlightenment’ is going to be world-shaking for you and all of your your dumbed-down chump pals.

    • Robert Wayne

      You liberals get more and more insane every day. You talk about how politics shouldn’t be in a doctor’s office, but YOUR president, comrade Odumbo and his pals like Pelosi and Reid put politics in the medical field when they started really harping on this healthcare scam, which by the way is nothing but another way for them to steal more of the ordinary American taxpayer’s hard earned money!!!! Wake up and smell the coffee libtard.

    • zack

      You have to look over American liberal. He thinks a doctors office is a place of worship. You see he is a little off. He can’t remember from one time to the next to take a VIAGRA or A BIRTH control pill. I don’t think he quite understands the difference between a man, and a woman. I am sure he would vote for Ms.Palin, because he is always talking about her.

  • Enlightened one

    This doctors a rightwing quack….he’s doing the patients a favor sending them away

    • http://?? Joe H.

      E.O.
      I wish you guys would make up your mind!!! First you want to lynch the guy now you are praising him saying he’s doing them a favor. Which is it???

  • naturalist

    Everyone should resist socialized medicine. We should also do our best politically by voting against politicians who favor big government. If we don’t, they will make Nikita Khruschev look like the sage prophet of our time. He said, “Your grandchildren will live under Communism.” Unfortunately, that is getting close to becoming true.

    • American Liberal

      That’s nonsense… When a person needs medical he can’t resist medical care… Socialized or not… You need to understand that your paying for people that can’t pay their medical bills already… What you calling socialized medicine just acknowledges this and adjusts coverage… That’s a major reason medical care can bankrupt a family… The healthcare bill keeps that from happening…so you can claim to be aginst socialized medicine all you want but the fact is you’ve already been paying for uninsured people….people who get sick seek care…you can’t resist … The problem was that the 30 mlion uninsured people were going to emergency rooms to get treatment and the cost was huge.. Guess who’s been paying for that socialized medicine ?.. You.. This bill is a good step in the tight direction… Needs some tweaking but it will help

      • American Liberal

        Typo.. “Right direction”

        • Mike In MI

          No, A.L., It was not a “typo” it was an accurate description of what is going to happen. It’s another step in the “tight” direction. If you think the situation we have now is constricted…just wait.

          Big Government is like a 20 ft. boa constrictor. Once it gets what it wants it squeezes tighter and tighter until it quits resisting. Then, swallows it whole.

          A government health system is not going to reduce the demand for services at all, or costs, or paperwork, or anything else you spoke of. It will reduce availability of care, quality of services, quality of providers, therapeutic choices, doctor discretion and applied art, scientific changes/innovation and ability of the system to quickly respond to immediate needs (like H1N1 flu) or alterations in the biosphere, ecosphere or technosphere. It will be a straight-jacket that feeds and maintains vested and entrenched interests that stifle evolving needs of society. It’s part of the bill and government corruption.

      • naturalist

        You need to be corrected. The nonsense is that too many Americans don’t recognize that there are thieves who steal from them by using government. Anyone who advocates socialism is a thief, plain and simple. They are evil, plain and simple. Just because they hide behind the facade of government, there is no moral justification provided. If one person steals from you that is wrong. If fifteen people steal from you, that is still wrong. If millions of people steal from you, that is still no different. Are you evil?

        • Hollywood

          Naturalist, you have to remember that back in the late 40′s when we were having problems with Communist Americans, they kinda went underground and did some re-thinking. Now they are Socialist and have for 50 plus years infiltrated our educational system (seeding). Now they are reaping what they have sewn. To argue with the adult Socialist is a waste of time, try educating the young first.

          • Robert Wayne

            I fear it’s too late. The sleazeballs took over public education and the universities in the late ’60s and early ’70s and used it for their own long range left wing propaganda machine.

          • Mike In MI

            Robert Wayne -

            Yes Sir, you have that A-1 100% right. Lots of our kids have been stultified and saturated in the dregs of the sewage plant settling pond ideotology of (RETRO-)progressivism that progresses to martial law or anarchy. Most people don’t know it – or care – that there have always been close ties between communists and anarchists. Neither one has a shred of ethics or morality. But they need to seem like they are to appear credible and attract followers. So, they inculcate and brainwash people with ideas and cliches culled from classical philosophy and theology. That imbues their adherents with a patina of “respectable” ideas (but, divorced from the reasoned and logical continuity that give classic disciplines their integrity). Progressives, therefore, have no integrity and we see on many of their posts here that they lack disciplined thinking, preferring instead to accost people with emotionalized anecdotal harangues, cliches divorced from original academic context, popular inflammatory media topics and practiced personnal destruction. All the elements of propaganda subsist on these pillars of liberal argumentativeness – not true argumentation or thoughtful discussion. (At least this type of venue disallows the normal, rude liberal ploy of “butt-in and shout-over”.)

            A variation is what Obama did during the ’08 campaign with his “Yes We Can” and “Hope and Change” mantras. He, deceitfully, never said what he envisioned “we can” to be, or what, how or when. Likewise,
            “hope” is usually a wonderful sentiment, as long as it is given some sort of definition – which he never made an attempt to do. “Change”? That is meaningless without putting some context to it as to what, when , why and how “Change” is to be brought about. No one I ever heard made him clear the misty bog with definitions. So, every listener and “O” voter put his own concept of what those three things should be. There must be some wild fantasies going round.

            What I find really interesting is to go through the Gospel accounts to see how Jesus Christ’s adversaries lined up their attacks against him. The scribes, Pharisees and Sadducees (Liberals of their day) lined up their attacks in similar fashion. In John 8 Jesus said they were of their father, the devil. Like father like son? Why wouldn’t children of darkness do the same today? But, he beat them.

            I think they can be beaten today, too, without going through what he endured…for us. Know what you’ve got in his name, and stand in the evil day.

            The terrible thing is the greater percentage of voters were uncritical of and welcomed Obama’s lies, deceit, double-think, bribery, slander, disfunctionality, intimidation and corruption.

            As you indicate, Bob. Much of modern education is a charade, a shiny b
            brick and mortar edifice that is hollow, dark and putrid. Then, the stuff that slithers out of it goes to Washington, D.C.

      • Suzanne in Texas

        Dear American Liberal,

        The problem with socialized medicine is two fold.
        1. We just don’t have the money to pay for it. Period.
        2. Socialized medicine draws down the quality of care for everyone in the system. Common procedures are extremely limited.

        Now, for this bill.
        1. It does NOTHING to address the cost of healthcare. All it does is increase the costs across the board which will cause more hardship.
        2. It cuts the funding for Medicare instead of Medicaid, so that the senior citizens who have paid into the scheme are being cut on their benefits.
        3. It allows the government to decide who gets what treatments and when. The statement that the government will not get between you and your doctor is a flat out lie!
        4. The bill is unconstitutional. It forces individuals to PURCHASE a specific product or face criminality.
        5. The bill is not deficit neutral as it has been touted. We (the people of United States) will be paying for this POS for 4 years before ANY benefits kick in.

        As for the physician, not only is he a doctor but he is a businessman. While he is not flat refusing care, he does have a right to not see someone. He’s just asking them to pre-screen themselves.

      • http://naver samurai

        In my hometown a lot of the people who don’t pay their bills are here illegally. Do you think we should pay for them? Sorry, not authorized by our Constitution. The people who can’t pay? I guarantee a good percentage could probably pay, but just choose not to do so. I had a friend who owed $25,000 in hospital bills and couldn’t afford to pay them, though he was working. There was an office he went to in the hospital that would help him out. The lady looked over his bill and ran it through the computer. Charities paid 50% of the bill! After that, he went to a credit agency and they worked with him and the hospital and set up a payment plan that was affordible for him. If more people would do these 2 things, we wouldn’t need this unconstitutional healthcare bill, which will be repealed in 2011!

        • JeffH

          samurai, simply called: responsibility. Too many don’t and won’t do the same thing.

        • American Citizen

          Too many people don’t know how or won’t work off a budget. I don’t know how they do it. The first thing I do every month is knowing how much money will be coming in (mostly SS) and the bills that are standard, i.e., insurance premiums, utilities, etc. and put them down on paper, dividing them up into two different sections. One section comes out of my SS check, the other out of my husband’s. That helps me decide which bill to pay when. The extra pays on credit card (we use only one), entertainment, gas for the car, grass mowing, etc. We usually have some extra some months and some months not. Particularly the ones in which car insurance and home owners insurance are due. We also contribute to charity as much as we are able. For these i put all extra money aside into one account and try to spend it judicially. We also try to save when we can. We don’t live high on the hog, had our home paid off years ago before we retired, and drive a 15 year old Chrysler which we baby. It serves us well as my husband is handicapped and can get in it easily. It can be done as we do all this on $25,000 a year.

  • American Liberal

    Someone above mentioned greed… I’ve got nothing aginst medical professionals and drug companys making a real profit but their does come a point where the profit gets excessive and then it’s greed…that’s when the need for caps come in… Some of you call that socialism.. I call it survival… The system will break down everytime when a free market turns into greed…some socialism is needed because some people and industrys are greedy and take more than a fair share…drug companys are huge offenders in greed…

    • johnstake

      I see you didn’t mention Tort Reform. Some lawyers make 30-percent or more of their settlements, and they do not improve patient health.. I know a lot of doctors that would be happy with 10-percent, or even 5-percent. Why didn’t we get tort reform. That is a simple answer, the laws are written by lawyers and they are not about to take food out of their own mouths. The only purpose for lawyers is to protect citizens from other lawyers, especially those in government. No mans life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. Obama Care proves that statement.

      • 3rd worlder

        You’re right. No tort reform. No public option and no price negotiations for the drugs. The healthcare law is the SOS, except now we are requied by law to pay for it.

    • American Citizen

      Most companies don’t make huge profits, 2 to 3 percent is the norm. If a company doesn’t make a profit, it goes under. They need money for new equipment, building maintenance, etc. Anybody who has never run a business, whether a farm, a zoo, a museum, a doctor practice, etc., just doesn’t understand. Small businesses are the backbone of this country. What is happening with this administration is scary. Nothing it is doing is helping the job market.

      • JeffH

        AC, the liberals could care less about anything but securing a spot at the government trough. Businesses are run by capitalists and capitalists are their enemy.

        • Mike In MI

          JeffH -
          I personnally like to think of it more in terms of the Host/parasite relationship. The parasites in Washington keep sucking more and more, constantly out of the private sector.

          One of these days they’re going to suck that Percheron down to a chihuahua. Tell me, what happens to the parasite when it kills the host?

  • Arlington Kennedy

    Geeze people, can’t we all get along? That is without the 60 year old, wanting people to eat their nuts, idiot Liberals, come on….

    • JeffH

      If I offended you, I apologize not only to you but those that I didn’t intend to offend. The rest of you nuts can, well, you know…

  • Brad Harrington
    • JeffH

      Brad Harrington, what a great story, one that should be read by all in this matter. It exposes, once again, that Democrat Grayson is filled with hate and vitriol, not the first time nor will it be the last, for those that don’t tow the line to the left’s satisfaction. Watch the media on this, like everything else, they will ignore Dr. Cassel’s right to free speech and go into their corrupted attack mode.

  • 3rd worlder

    Actually, the Doctor’s comment is just what Obama wants. Obama just doesn’t have the balls to admit it. Get used to rationing.

  • Charles Campbell

    I support the doctor completly. He has a right to treat who he pleases.

    He is very courageous. I applaud him. We need more good men like him.

    • Dennis

      Thank you, Thank you, Thank you My Brother……..

  • Jack

    I pray all the Doc.swill wake up

  • Is is November Yet

    Good for the Doctor. Someone who has the cojones to stand up for what he believes in!!! Wish there were more like him!

  • Marilyn

    Dr. Cassell gets the “Atta Boy” award! More doctors should do the same. Very few doctors belong to the AMA so they had no input to the health care reform bill. I’m beginning to wonder how many medical professionals did have any input? Insurance companies are the culprits and need regulated. Insurance companies are the closest thing to Mafia tactics. So, what happens? All Americans come under Socialized Medicine that has proven NOT to work in other countries. Did anyone take notice who passed the health care bill and what goodies did each voter get to vote for the stupid bill? Almost like “stuffing the voting box” wouldn’t you say?

  • True Conservative

    After reading all the comments on this board I see that the liberals have learn nothing from history. Review your history and learn that everytime that a progressive liberal view has become the dominant political policy of a country, that country has been destroyed by nations bent on conquering the world. Germany tried to do the same with the European nations. The only thing that stood in their way was the non progressive people of this nation. The other were fighting against going to war. You may not have heard much about that movement during that war because it was so small and the majority of Americans did not subscribe to this view. But it has grown over the years thru infiltration of liberlism from European people migrating to the US. Then by Vietnam War it had become more prevalent and was televised more heavily. If it continues to grow in this country we will eventually be destroyed as well. There will be no one left to protect the world from people bent on world domination.

    America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
    Abraham Lincoln

  • http://bwmelton@atmc.net B Wayne Melton

    I, for one, applaud the good doctor. I don’t believe health care is a right but a priviledge. If you are indigent or can’t afford health care because of a sound reason, by all means, let’s help you. If you are too lazy to work for a living, too bad!!If you are an illegal, go to your homeland and get health care. You have been allowed to bleed the system long enough!! Why should the citizens of our country have to pay large premiums for less care?!!! Keep up the good work, Doc.

  • Raggs

    Hats off to the doctor…… This is really going to get ugly when obama trys to push a VAT tax on us to pay for his marxist-care for the lazy.

  • Joe C.

    To Bob Wire

    You talk about the oath this doctor took. What about the oath these politicians took, to uphold and defend the Constitution. Seems to me they are ignoring everything about it.

    • JeffH

      OOPS! So much for rational thought on the subject!

  • Barbara

    Sounds like the doctor is starting early. He is showing what is going to happen if this medical nightmare is implemented. We will be obligated to prove standards that will have nothing to do with our health needs.

    • Norm

      Barbara
      Correction, It’s not if it’s when.

  • American

    Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning November 2008′s Presidential election:

    Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29
    Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 McCain: 2,427,000
    Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million

    McCain: 143 million

    Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:

    Obama: 13.2 McCain: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: “In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.

    Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income tenements and living off various forms of government welfare…”

    Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the “complacency and apathy” phase of Professor Tyler’s definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation’s population already having reached the “governmental dependency” phase.

    If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegals and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

    Tax payers know this take over of healthcare is going to kill us all quicker and unless you free loaders do the math and figure itout yours self you will find that no doctor will be taking care of you soon!

    • American Citizen

      The saying is, “Be careful what you ask for, you just may get it.” Liberals and progressives don’t know what they are asking for or they just don’t care what the results will be.

  • Sandy

    My hat goes off to the Dr. Maybe more should do the same. Obama has force all this on us. You can only be pushed so far!

  • eddie47d

    S.C.; A Dr. who is dead and is still cashing checks must be a magician OR his staff is scamming the government and should be prosecuted. Florida is well known for it’s medicare scams.

    • JeffH

      …or maybe the ones doing the scam aren’t related to the deceased Dr or staff and is just a proffessional scammer. Maybe the government should do a better job and cut the waste. I already know yor position on that one. Tax, then tax some more. We all have to make the “contribution” to cover the irresponsible government’s wastefull spending through increased taxes. When government grows, the tax money flows.

      • JeffH

        Try pulling the blinders off and looking at the bigger picture here.

      • Mike In MI

        JeffH – You know the thing that has always intrigued me about government’s inability to get to the bottom of the fraud barrel is that so much of it is artfully concealed and ignored. I know part of it is big time, highly connected clinics and professionals who have avenues of ingress to legislators.
        I wonder how much of it is the bureaucrats who know how the billing system can be invaded for personnal enrichment? What is there to stop the government unions from skimming it for personnal gain and contributions to Obama. Then they could cover it with a cloak of officially enforced secrecy and refusal to open the books or respond to requests for information.

        • JeffH

          Mike In MI, I often believe it might just be that government jobs don’t have performance requirements other than the: show up and shut up, afterall, it’s not your money type of mentality!

  • eddie47d

    Johnstake; We should have tort reform and lawyers do gouge everyone. As long as patients aren’t forced to accept a lump sum payment for a botched surgery then I would agree with you. Many medical costs go on for years and that should be reflected in any tort reform.

  • eddie47d

    Dr. Cassell’s statement that people should die young and die a slow painful death is alot of nonsense. That’s just a headline grabber and that makes him an attention seeker. The world has plenty of people who are full of themselves and make outrageous comments.

  • kate8

    What’s gong on with this doctor is just another example of what happens when anyone has the courage to speak out against this mob now
    infesting DC. Who could have imagined things coming to this in America. Now that we are no longer the land of the free, we’ll see who the brave really are.

    Who of us are willing to stand with this good doctor?

    Push is rapidly coming to shove.

  • Norm

    The Hippocratic Oath (Modern Version)

    “ I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:
    I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

    I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures [that] are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

    I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon’s knife or the chemist’s drug.

    I will not be ashamed to say “I know not,” nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient’s recovery.

    I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. If it is given me to save a life, all thanks. But it may also be within my power to take a life; this awesome responsibility must be faced with great humbleness and awareness of my own frailty. Above all, I must not play at God.

    I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person’s family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

    I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

    I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.

    If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.

    Maybe the good doctor prefers the hypocritic oath.

    • Norm

      Maybe the good doctor should become a politician because his interests are beyond medicine.

      • JeffH

        Normy baby, why don’t you tell us exactly what the doctor did wrong and where you have gotten your facts about this fine, upstanding American MD. You could leave out the hippocratic oath thing though, we all know about that part of it.

    • American Citizen

      The thing of it is, we, the patients, are in control of our treatments. We can accept or reject any treatment a doctor thinks we should have. I, myself, have rejected having any more scans as I’ve been fighting breast cancer for 13 1/2 years now. I am scanned out. I am taking the medication he prescribed and it seems to be working at this time. There is no guarantee that any treatment will cure. Doctors are not God. They do their best to help us to the best of their knowledge. Some people survive despite having terrible diseases or injuries that boggle doctors’ minds. I give God the credit for my survival this far. I know some day I, too, will pass from this earth, but until then I will enjoy every day to its fullest.

      • Mike In MI

        American Citizen – my hat’s off to you and my heart’s out to you.

        With that kind of heart and believing you are a born(again) winner, babe. You have your sights set on the right expectation and it appears you’re moving that mountain, ’cause it ain’t movin’ you. I’d bet you out-live Obama…with or without his antisocialized medicine.

    • zack

      Norm,maybe you should drop off the face of the earth. You are breathing good air, but not making good sense.

  • doctor kyle

    They may not be as explicit as this, but a significant number of doctors are going to do just this as long as they still have the freedom to work in private practice.

    In Britain, there is a thriving fee for service practice there. The doctors and patients both benefit. The patient gets all the care that they are willing to pay for when they want it, the doctor gets to practice real medicine and do what he or she feels is best for their patients with minimal government and insurance company interference. It is a win-win situation.

    It seems “old fashioned” but it worked in the past and it may prove the wave of the future. Doctors that do cash only business charge less for their services and usually do as well financially. Patients and doctors hopefully will opt out of the system and get the quality health care that they deserve.

    • Norm

      doctor kyle
      “The patient gets all the care that they are willing to PAY for when they want it, the doctor gets to practice real medicine ……”
      We would hate to see you take a pay cut or spread your knowledge to more patients.

      • Mike In MI

        mroN – Your attitude is drainin’ out all over everything. For crying out loud, clean it up before it eats into the tiles.

        How dare you assume this man isn’t seeing as many people as he ethically, carefully (and, probably, prayerfully) can in a day, to help as many as possible with what he knows to give the best care possible – without stretching himself beyond his personal envelope?

        What are you? – some sort of two-bit half-baked government inspector who goes around pushing everybody else to meet some sort of “Norm” – set up by you about things you wish you had some inkling about? That’s a big problem with your sort – you want everyone else to live up to your standards. But, damn everybody to hell who expects even a low standard from you, or sets a measure for you, or has a judgement about anything you want. selfish … shut up, Mike!

    • marypat

      Payment could be a cord of wood or chicken eggs for a year or other bartered system of payment- it did work in the past. thanks for the hope.

    • American Citizen

      The only drawback to this is that it’s OK for normal care such as flu, cuts, etc. If you get a disease such as cancer, there’s no way the average Joe can pay for the treatments and medications. I thank God we had insurance to cover mine.

  • Barbara

    If Obama feels generous, let him contribute to these low life who used the system and spend foolishly on their wants. The doctor is right…why should we have to share what we have worked hard all our lives for?
    Besides he is not beating around the bush…he tells it like it is. I’ve worked all my life and sacrificed things
    that I wanted to get good health care….now Obama says I have to share? I think Obama, Pelosi and Reid
    should give up some of their wealth and share, not take it from the hard working middle class like me. I
    have known many people who smoke, drinks and vacation lavishly but when they need medical attention
    they go to the ER. Is this fair? If they are not concerned about their health, let them die.

    • Norm

      Hooray for me, f–k you. You sound like a true Christian. I’m a part-time Christian and I have great medical coverage, but I don’t begrudge anyone healthcare or food.

      • True Conservative

        To Norm
        You don’t know Christianity is. Otherwise you would not have cursed at Barbara.

      • JeffH

        Geez Normy, part time christian? I guess that insulates you for your curse.

        • Norm

          JeffH
          At least I don’t support letting my fellow countrymen die for lack of medical care.
          I guess we will let God decide what a real sin is.

          • True Conservative

            You just don’t get it do you. The problem is not the lack of medical care it is people who want to bleed this country dry for their own benefit. I haved lived thru times where all I had was the clothes on my back. I have not once been on unemployment or goverment assistance. All that does make you dependent on them and you no longer are an independent individual. People need to have responsiblity for themselves and not rely on the goverment to supply everthing for them. Go to an European country or Russia and see what this type of mindset breeds.

          • Norm

            True Conservative
            I was not born rich. I worked hard, studied hard, had good luck and have a great supportive family. I still don’t consider myself rich but I guess by many standards I’m at least quite comfortable. In forty plus years of work I’ve collected unemployment comp. once for about 6 months. The GI bill and companies that employed me paid for my education through the masters level. The government was paid back many times over, by my increased earnings due to education and experiance.
            I believe that as Americans we are all in one boat. Some of us are officers and others do some very minor tasks. But we are all needed if the damned boat is going to float and is going to be worth keeping afloat.

          • True Conservative

            Well I am 50 and still not as well off as you apparently but I still don’t want anything from you are the goverment. You are so wrong. To use your analogy, If your on a boat and everyone is doing their job they are resposible for the boat floats but if the boat is in trouble and half the people are waiting for you to do it for them ” YOU ARE SUNK”!!!. There that is how your analogy will play out. Get the people working first and then all is well.

          • JeffH

            Normy, nor do I and have never said any differant.

          • zack

            I don’t believe you where born, you where hatched. For sure you haven’t been born again as a Christian. I would like to buy you for what you are worth, and sell you for what you think you are worth. You probably couldn’t buy a dead mans dinner.

      • zack

        (Offensive comment removed)

  • True Conservative

    Legally all the Dr. is bound to do with any patient is if they are in a medical emergency he is bound to stabilize them and send them to a public facility. He has the right to refuse any services to any patient. By law a fatal disease such as Aids, Cancer or any other does not classify as a medical emergency. There is nothing in the oath that he took that overides the law.

  • kate8

    Barbara, you pointed out the obvious. These weasels who are forcing this healthcare BS down are throats have exempted themselves. THEY will not be paying into it. They don’t even pay taxes.

    Any one of them could donate a small pittance of their fortunes and could help countless people in need. Instead, they continue to amass wealth for themselves and the bankers which they plunder from the taxpayer, and then levy more taxes on us to “help the American people”. (If I had to hear “for the American people” once more from Pelosi’s lips, I was going to break the TV.)

    It amazes me that these libs don’t have a problem with the hypocracy of these politicians they so foolishly worship.

    • JeffH

      kate8, “It amazes me that these libs don’t have a problem with the hypocrisy of these politicians they so foolishly worship.”

      …I’ll add to your comment, they actually believe that automatically qualifies them as the real “patriotic Americans”, no matter the cost to life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness.

  • marypat

    The healthcare system wasn’t broke so why did they fix it? That truely is the question of the day. Does power mongering/ controling mean anything? Has anyone ever heard throw the baby out with the bathwater? As I see it the Government payments don’t cover the real cost of healthcare nor did the Insurance companies reimburse near to the “cost”. Is that going to get any better under the new rules? I don’t think so. We are all going to have to get our MD’s /OD’s/ Pa’s/RN’s etc just to care for our own families, that is if you want them to live like they are now in the 2010″s. I forsee a lot of old medical conditions rearing their ugly diagnoses that we haven’t seen since the 50′s(to put it kindly). It really isn’t too late to change this as it’s not been set for generations yet. As we progress through this “change try to remember the way it was.. the good medical research, hospice care, compassionate caregivers who speak your language just for starters.

    • Norm

      marypat
      The old system was unsustainable. This year alone, a year of virtually no inflation, premiums were up in the 20% to 40% area. About 1/3 of Insurance premiums went to adminstration. Even medicare has less (under 5%) administrative costs.
      My hope is that the new(peresent) system will be better. It can hardly be worse.

      • marypat

        True but another approach to the solution would have been truely a prudent move if they wished to change for the best! I like the plan to allow Insurance plans across State lines, also why not add legislation to the already medicaid and medicare programs. The word TWEAK not CHOP!. The healthcare bill was a mistake and I really think the patient has lost out. Why did they throw in the education portion in the bill and why oppress those who don’t believe Abortion is ethical? A thoughful approach with true legislation would have been the high road and they blew it for the American people and have left a negative legacy. I think it ultimately was a power grab and the motive are all about control.

      • True Conservative

        Ok Norm you are about to see the bad side of me. I have watched you reply to all these people today and everything you have said just goes to prove that your a moron. The administrative cost for medicade and medicare is much higher than that. The fraud and abuse according to Obama himself reaches over 50%. The goverment passes their overhead off to the Doctors who have to pay 4 people to every one doc just to keep the paperwork correct. That is an unstainable system. We have propped up medicade and medicare so many times with extra money that did not belong there in the first place and then the crooks in Washington steal from it. This is what you want for all Americans to pay these crooks to steal even more. YOU ARE A MORON!!!!

      • American Citizen

        This bill, according to the pols, is not about healthcare itself but to rein in the costs, of which it does nothing. The CBO’s math is faulty as it was given false information on which to base its figures. The insurance companies are raising premiums prior to having to knowtow to the bureaucrats who will administer this +++++bill.

        • eyeswideopen

          American, why is it the CBO is brillant when the Repubs/conservatives get the results they want, but stupid or given the wrong facts, when you don’t get the results you want? Doesn’t that strike you as odd?

          • JeffH

            You are the only one to say that, nobody else is backslapping the CBO on Republican legislation. Delirious!

      • Mike In MI

        Norm —– Dear God Help me do this reasonably.

        Norm that figure was put out by an Obama defense prevaricator to deflect a legitiate question about the insurance/medicare cost differential. If you weren’t so willing to blindly take everything the Prevaricater-in-Chief shovels your way from the stalls and learned what they were talking(lieing) about you might be considerred at least misinformed – instead of malicious. Medicare has such a low in-house administration cost level because doctor bills, payments and audits get processed by outside contractors – usually insurance companies who government pays to do their dirty work. That adds to the insurers costs for admin type work and reduces medicare’s admin costs fabulously.

        The lie should be evident.

        Another thing, Congress has been requiring the health insurers to pay for more and more stupid stuff that should be on the individual’s personal ticket, not insurance. It’s big ticket services, often, and the slimeball patients are glad for the law, as are the providers. But most of it is stealing in one form or another that forces premiums up. Then that gives people more to bitch at liberal senators about who then have more grist against the insurers for raising premiums – they can’t win. But the Dems are croaking the golden goose…with your support.
        So, when it’s all gone, you can rest assured your assistance lit the match that cooked the goose’s ass.

    • cella

      The healthcare system wasn’t broke. I guess you do not read or listen to any news source other than Fox. The healthcare system is terrible. The cost was going up 10 times the rate of inflation. Affordability was a main problem. Not free care. Sending people to emergency rooms for high priced “free care”. Outrageous! Medical bills was a major factor in homes being lost. The bill has passed. It is the law of the land. I have great insurance. This bill is great. It is not going to end hospice or end of life care. Most people will not even notice a change.

      • marypat

        whoa! It’s not too late to turn this whole debacle back. Healthcare in this country has been number one in the world. Many wonderful changes in my field had transpired over the years thanks to fabulous research and inovations. Payment was a problem for many I’m aware of this. I also know many a person is alive today by that well trained individual who reached the pinnacle in their specialty. Not at all confident that will be apart of the healthcare landscape of the future, really get comfortable with longlines, low access to specialist and incorrect treatments and diagnoses.

      • JeffH

        You’ll have to excuse cella. She has a tendency to bellow, like an out of tune cello, the atypical conservative viewpoint.

      • American Citizen

        No, the health care system isn’t broke, we still get the best care in the world. I am living proof of that. However, the problem is the cost and this bill does nothing to address that. The things that need to be changed have not been done.

      • zack

        cella sorry to inform you, but Hospice will be done away with. Read the HC bill and you will see

  • Ruby

    Unless Obama has taken over something else…politics does not fall under the protected classes regarding descrimination. Way to go Doc! Unless you are currently not working…you will not be affected financially by ObamaCare. It’s the people that go to work every day! Too bad it didn’t do something to motivate people to work AND THE ONES THAT WORK such as subsidizing their insurance premiums not penalizing them if they can’t afford insurance. The elderly and people unable to work because of health issues should be helped, NOT people choosing not to work and illegal aliens. Why should the working Americans pay extra taxes for people that are able to work and ILLEGAL ALIENS? YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING! AND WHY SHOULD PHYSICIANS THAT SPENT ALL THE YEARS GETTING THEIR EDUCATION NOT RECEIVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT SACRIFICE AND DEDICATION? WE WILL SOON SEE A SHORTAGE OF DOCTORS. THANK-YOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP…OBAMA…PELOSI…REED. Give up your current Health benefits and raises if your Healthcare is so great. Don’t take money from Medicare and Medicaid…NO COST OF LIVING RAISE FOR MEDICARE…NO RAISE FOR YOU EITHER! PRACTICE WHAT YOU DICTATE! AND AT THE SAME TIME GIVE SOME OF YOUR MONEY TO OTHERS SO THEY CAN LIVE AS GOOD AS YOU DO!

  • kate8

    For some reason liberals consider doctors public domain. Where does it say that when you get your medical degree you relinquish your personal rights as a citizen?

    Libs believe that you let those who want to succeed go ahead and spend many years and tons of money building a career, then those who didn’t are entitled to their services for free. After all, that is the compassionate thing to do. Ugh.

    Libs have no respect for aspiration or accomplishment. To them, those who do owe those who don’t. And they’ve now taken over the medical system to insure that doctors are controlled by government, thereby rendering them just another arm of the slave system.

    What are you guys going to do when people like doctors throw in the towel and refuse to practice? Force them, like they do in Cuba? Who’s
    going to carry your sorry rears when no one wants to work just to take care of the likes of you?

    By your logic, grocers and restaurants owe you free food, banks owe you free money, stores owe you free clothes…oh, wait! You do think that.

  • Annie Ladysmith

    Your all flipping MORONS, i can’t believe the stupid mental states of some of you bloggers.

    Dr. Cassell is a patriot who refuses to be pushed around by the mafia thugs who are taking over America. End of story.

    Politician Grayson can eat s*** and die a slow death in the gutter, just like he wants the medicare people to do.

    • marypat

      Agree 100% that Dr. Cassell is a courageuos MD and a Patriot. I stand behind him.

  • kate8

    Annie L – You go, girl!

  • JeffH

    Thought I would share part of Linda Halderman, M.D., FACS info, who is running for the California State Assembly, District 10.

    “Fluent in Spanish, Linda served rural south Fresno County’s uninsured and underinsured women with breast cancer before underpayment by Medi-Cal and the state’s breast cancer programs for uninsured women contributed to her practice’s financial demise.”

    Medi-Cal is the Medicaid of California, which will be the same government health plan forced on those that refuse or cannot afford insurance in the eary phase of the Health Care Bill.

  • Raggs

    People… We have a very serious problem here…

    The government under communist obama is seeking control over every aspect of our lives.. This so called health care reform is nothing more than a take control measure of the us citizens…

    Currently passed in congress is a ” National ID ” that will be used in conjuction with the health reform, illegal immigration reform and firearm control for every citizens of this country.
    This ID will enable the government to use force and monitor your every move, purchases and health choices ie if you are over weight etc.
    They will tell you what and how you can purchase items, drugs and even food, firearms will be out of the question without this ID.
    This ID card will also be used to determine your eligibility as a citizen to work which leaves to the next step… Without this card you cannot pay your bills… The ID will track all your movements using your bank account information, medical records and anyother transations you make on a daily basis…

    So there you have it…. The lame stream media will not tell you any of this nor will Fox news…
    Marshal law will be used as an enforcement tool.. so be it I’m ready to die.

  • kate8

    Thank you, Raggs. I’ve been harping on this point for the past year!
    This is NOT ABOUT OUR HEALTH. It’s about TOTAL CONTROL. And the plan is for the card to become a chip.

    That is why all this fuss about who gets care and who doesn’t is all just smokescreen. So is immigration. IT’S ALL ABOUT THE CHIP. Of course, we all miss that point because we’re too busy listening to liberals whine about how people are dying because they can’t see a doctor.

    Without the chip no one can buy or sell. OR SEE A DOCTOR. Or do anything at all.

    I’m with you, Raggs. Glad to see that there are others who get it.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    i just read an article written by bob Livingston in my email asking if everyone was going to follow the HERD (one Ive heard Kate8 use several times) off the cliff.

    • http://verizon kbab777

      If I was this doctor I think I might feel the same but of course there are those that will always push themselves on someone wanted or not.

  • kate8

    It does appear that most people are completely unaware of the runaway train barreling straight for us a breakneck speed.

    Our government is nothing but a series of revolving doors. Congress is a whorehouse, and is completely irrelevant except to pass the blows to our liberty that the masters place before them. Obama is a foreign agent and a complete fraud. The judiciary is seated with plants from the same club. The media is owned by the same foreign bankers who own the government.

    And we’re kept busy squabbling about things we know nothing about.

    Houston, we have a problem.

    • Raggs

      Thats true…
      They want to keep you confused and guessing which direction to go.
      It is the “ole bait-n-switch” used by all progressives, communist and marxist… As you stated they want us to bicker with ourselves to dumb us down.

      They are throwing hairbrained antics in the news to mask thier real agenda… Not only that they are using us to destroy ourselves so they gain in power and control.. A good point would be immigration reform.. Now most of us realize there needs to be some method of an immigration policy… But they will use that to punish us with a ID chip so we can prove who we are…I’m sorry but that is totally wrong and they can kiss my ARSE!… Point being everyone is missing the big picture…. They will use any excuse like terrorism to control us.
      One other example… The swine flu.. You see it’s simple to look through them… Why do you think obama cares nothing about Israel?
      He knows it is a stepping stone to his gain of authority over the world by thier defeat…Israel is in Gods hands and thats the only thing he cannot control… So we are seeing we have the Anti-christ in this nation

    • JeffH

      kate8 and Raggs, it is so refreshing to see that you and others see beyond this government, the much bigger picture of treachery that lies within and beyond our borders. Again, it makes no differance what we call it , Bilderbergers, New World Order, The Shadow Party, or Illuminati, I’m quite sure it exists. Too much has been written to just dismiss it as a “conspiracy theory”.

      If one group is effectively in control of national governments and multinational corporations; promotes world government through control of media, foundation grants, and education; and controls and guides the issues of the day; then they control most options available. The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), and the financial powers behind it, have done all these things, and promote the “New World Order”, as they have for over seventy years.

      That a ruling power elite does indeed control the U.S. government behind the scenes has been attested to by many americans in a position to know. Felix Frankfurter, Justice of the Supreme Court (1939-1962), said: “The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes.” In a letter to an associate dated November 21, 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt wrote, “The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.”

      February 23, 1954, Senator William Jenner warned in a speech: “Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our Constitution is outmoded.”

      Baron M.A. Rothschild wrote, “Give me control over a nation’s currency and I care not who makes its laws.”
      http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NWO/Council_Foreign_Relations.htm

      • JeffH

        FEMA
        In America, the Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA) was created in 1979 under Presidential Memorandum 32 authored for President Carter by Prof. Samuel P. Huntington, a Harvard professor and former FEMA Advisory Board chairman. Huntington wrote the Seminal Peace for the Trilateral Commission in the mid 70′s, in which he criticized democracy and economic development as outdated ideas. As co-author of the book, Crisis in Democracy, Huntington wrote:

        “We have come to recognize that there are potential desirable limits to economic growth. There are also potentially desirable limits to the indefinite extension of political democracy. A government which lacks authority will have little ability short of cataclysmic crisis to impose on its people the sacrifices which may be necessary.”

        FEMA will have the authority to exert any sort of control that it deems necessary upon the American public. A trained National Police Force, formally referred to by the name of Multi Jurisdictional Task Force (MJTF), wearing black uniforms and composed of:

        1. specially selected US military personnel
        2. foreign military units carrying United Nations ID cards, and
        3. specially trained existing police groups from larger metropolitan American cities.

        These members of the MJTF will implement and enforce martial law under the direction and controlof FEMA. The President and Congress are out of the loop.

        FEMA is the Trojan Horse by which the New World Order will implement overt, police-state control over the American populace.
        http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/

        • Raggs

          obama has stated he wants a civil force equal to or larger than the military…. This could only mean one thing…. His seed is that of a demon for the lack of a better word…Yeah and your correct in some sence, his promises prior to his usurper election ( i know its an oxymoron ).. where a foundation of support for the minority built upon by the elite to gain votes through ACORN in an illegal campaign.
          Funded in most by the “behind the sceen” string pullers.

          This country has failed!! This cuntry refuses to put it’s trust in God but instead to the usurper obama. obama is no different than julis ceaser, hitler, stalin, tung,.. a master of lies and a murderer.

  • Dusted_Eagle

    Boy, I must have a crystal ball! Last year, I said that the tax refund that OB was giving us, was nothing more then a refund of withholding that would need to be repaid come April, tax time. What I said was true. (Is’nt it amazing that when people get a refund at tax time, they don’t even realize that the money they are getting is their own!?) Three years ago, when gold was about $300 an ounce, I told people to buy it, and was laughed at. Last month, I said that doctors would have signs on their counters saying, “This clinic reserves the right to refuse service to anybody!” Just like in resteraunts! Now, it is happening! Along with the placard that reads, “This clinic reserves the right to refuse service to anybody!” every physician in this country should run their business (yes, all doctors and clinics are “businesses!”) like dentists do; with another sign that reads, “All services must be paid for in advance with “cash,” and you will be given a paid in full receipt so you can receive your reimbursement from your health care insurance company. This is what the obamalovers voted for, and now they should GET IT! All health care paid for in advance, then reimbursed by their insurance company, to include all ER, TRAUMA, and CANCER services! PS-Just like I am forced to do, because no doctor in my town accepts my government (Medicare) health insurance! YOU LIBERALS BOUGHT THE $SHIT-SANDWICH — NOW EAT IT!

  • kate8

    Thank you all for speaking up. I am encouraged that there are others…

    I heard through the underground grapevine that there is another false flag event planned before July. Most likely a “homeland terrorist” event which will be blamed on right-wingers, and used to as an excuse to confiscate guns and possibly declare martial law. One source said it could possibly be the assassination of one or two state governors.
    Something that will create a state of panic and chaos.

    These communists don’t intend to lose an election. They’ve come too far to risk that. They will do anything to thwart the will of the people. Those on the right could find themselves labeled “enemies of the state” very soon.

    We are in serious trouble. The more people know what’s going on and who is behind it, the less chance these elites will get away with
    such atrocities and deceit.

    Godspeed to you all.

  • Dusted_Eagle

    You people need to clean your ears out. nobama never promised “free” healthcare! What he promised was that everybody would have (be required) to have healthcare insurance, and if they didn’t, they would be fined for not doing so, and that employers who have more then 25 employees would have to “offer” it (at the empoyee’s expense) to their employees. Where is the word “free” in that statement? It never existed, except in the fantasy-world you all seem to be living in. The only benefit I see, after reading the first 300 pages of the bill (I got tired of reading the BS and stopped there), is that insurance companies must accept all children within 6 months of its passage, that nobody can be turned down for coverage because of a preexisting condition, and that the American people will be paying for the government’s option for 4 or 5 years, before they, an adult, can even get insurance of any kind with no clauses refusing them coverage. By the way, illegals can not get health insurance but will still be able to get free healthcare in ER’s, because if they have a disease, which most do, then the government is required by law to treat them, whether or not they can pay, because their health care would then be classified as a “public health” issue. Meaning, if they do not get treated, legal citizens could get the disease they have, even if the reason for the ER visit was for an ingrown toe nail. So, the illegals still get free healthcare, legal citizens will have their taxes raised to pay for it, and we will also have our taxes raised to pay for the public option which we won’t even be able to use for another 4 or 5 years! Isn’t that wonderful? You can find the healthcare bill online. Go read it. I can bet your congressman/woman/person/thing and Senator never did. It has about 1,700 pages in it. And, here’s another tidbit. The IRS says that only 49% of American workers pay taxes each year. Know why? Because the other 51% have so many dependants that the are able to zero out their tax liability each year! Isn’t that wonderful? The average illegal doesn’t pay taxes, but they get $1,800 a month in food stamps and free housing (Section 8)! The average American worker, today, doesn’t even make $1,800 a month, which he/she needs to feed their family and provide a roof over their heads with. The HOR is working on a bill, this week, to give amnesty to all of the 30 million illegals living in this country. Exactly 1/3 of the American population is made up of illegals from south of the border who have either received amnesty by Bill Clintoon, or who are living here with no passports from their home country’s or visa’s from ours. Isn’t that wonderful! REWARD THE FELONS! GIVE THEM US CITIZENSHIP AND EVERYTHING THAT GOES ALONG WITH IT! WHOO-HOO!

    • Raggs

      “free” health care you say?… So someone else pays for it.. is that not “free” to the user? Why dont you drowned yourself?

      • JeffH

        Raggs, I think you have misunderstood Dusted_Eagle’s comments.

    • Raggs

      a small correction…. I meant drown! next time i will proof read.
      But leaving a reply to freeloaders like you got me fussudled.

    • Raggs

      I have to “buy” it… because the government owns it?
      Do i have to by a bank, a car, a house? your saying that it is OK to force feed me into buying what the government owns.

  • kate8

    Raggs, why are you attacking Dusty? Did I miss something? It didn’t seem to me like he was defending healthcare at all, or anything to do with this whole liberal BO mess. Quite the opposite.

    • Raggs

      I guess the whole thing of a requirement for everyone to purchase communist care pretty much pissed me off. Not only that he seems to be all up for a controlled government method of the system by the means he posted stating it is a good thing like it or not! need i say more?

  • kate8

    JeffH – Thanks for the rundown on FEMA.

    Chilling.

  • Raggs

    Prehaps in my understanding / misunderstanding of some of the post.
    Things can be taken out of text..I stand that the government is not to impose itself on my liberties and I will defend that no matter what the price will be.

    • JeffH

      I’m with ya 100%.

  • Dennis

    Thank you Chuck,
    HE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG…………………..

  • kate8

    I hear ya, Raggs.

    This government does not feel constrained by the Constitution.
    These people believe themselves to be superior to us, and feel that they have the right to impose on us whatever they think should be done to control all of life. And this is what they are implementing.

    They also know that there are people who won’t go along, and they are in the process of identifying such people with the intent of eliminating them. They can’t have people crusading for liberty in the system they are setting up, which is a small society of willing slaves. The libs who think those in office are all benevolent folks who just want to make sure everyone is fed, housed, and cared for are in for a big surprise when their usefulness runs out. That is, when their votes are no longer needed.

    I know you are aware of this, so I won’t go on. I’m just glad to know there are people like you out there. Hopefully, there are more than we think.

  • http://gmail Raindancer

    We do have a protected class, it is called all Congressal leaches, that don’t have a clue about the bills they place on us. It must have been stated as free, since state health agencies are reporting, having people calling in to sign up for free healthcare. The socalist communist democrats were always refering to having healthcare for illegals and everone, so I guess that could be refered to as free, unless you are an American citizen. Someone has to pick up the tab for the welfare rats and lazy assed slugs who flow to the democrat party. The idea of continuing rocking chair money” unemployment benefits” , is a bad plan, stop at 13 weeks. I know I have been checking job classifed on line. I called about a several jobs for several welfare rats I come across. Their statements are some of the following, too far to go for a job, don’t have Sat. and Sun. off, not working overtime, will not do anything manual, will not drive heavy equipment, not moving 50-100 miles from home, it isn’t my feild,I’m too educated to get my hands dirty and I won’t drive trucks, my girlfriend wants me around, or the best I have a poly science degree and I plan to become a polatation!!! These are healthy 25-35 year olds males and females who have basket weaving degrees, such are social therapists and phycologists, or artists and computor programmers. Most live at home and just love that they can get insurance off of mommy and daddy. We have raised a bunch of eleitist spoiled brats, mom and dad are the cause, just have fun and get a degree and just wait for the right job, most I don’t think could pass a drug test, since some of the jobs have hair folical test. The starting wage is 40,000+.

  • Freedom Fighter

    WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE A STAND LIKE THIS DOCTOR. LET FREEDOM RULE.

  • Dave

    This Doctor is an-idiot-!!!
    He is not a real-caring-Doctor.
    This man should be stop !!!
    Sincerely: Dave, Family, & Friends.

    • JeffH

      Dave, you sound like a real caring person yourself with a problem about freedom of speech.

      Sincerely, JeffH, conservative minded friends & family of Life, Liberty, and the Freedom to pursue happiness

    • American Citizen

      No, the doctor is doing what he thinks he needs to do.

    • zack

      evidently you, and your friends, and family are morons.

  • kate8

    As I stated earlier, Dave. Getting a medical degree does not cause one
    to relinquish his personal rights as a citizen. Doctors do not become public servants, and are not at your disposal. Nor do they owe you anything.

    Being caring does not require him to be a chump. He has a right to declare his opinion, whether folks like you like it or not.

    I say, God bless him. He is standing for something much greater than
    any whiny liberal’s health issues.

    • eyeswideopen

      Kate8, medical doctors have a legal responsibility to discharge patients in a certain manor. If they fail to follow those procedures they can be charged with negligent adandonment. Patients must be given appropriate referral, transfer or discharge information and paperwork. Hanging a sign on your door is not proper procedures.

    • cr747

      eyeswideopen,,
      where did you get your degree on law??That’s the most ridiculous quote I have ever heard anyone say..A Doctor has rights just like you,,and me..I guess when a patient goes to another Doctor they can go get the patient for not coming back to their primary physician..

      The Doctor has done nothing wrong in the site of the law..He is not turning anyone away,,they have a right to walk in,,and register just like any other patient..You are not making any sense whatsoever..

      You wouldn’t know a pilot if he landed in your front yard..Nothing was wrong with what I stated..I gave you the site to go to the last time to show you where it explained what WMD’s where found,,and what it was..It was in the newspapers,,and on all the news channels..Get a life,,and talk about something you know,,not something that you know nothing at all about..

      I do not believe anything you say,,so It is alright with me for you not believing me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • JeffH

        cr747, shame on you. You should know better than that. You can get a better response and understanding from a rock. Haven’t you heard the cliché “dumber than a rock”?

        • cr747

          JeffH,,
          Yes I have,,and it is a shame we have so many doubting “Thomasis” on here..They think everything they write is Gospel,,but I can assure you that a lot of the comments are filled with so much hate that I do not know how they make it in every day life..Such a shame that we as Americans stoop so low to discredit someone that is trying to make a comment to help someone else out,,and then you have a handful that will try to discredit your comment..Why is happening to the good people Of The United States Of America????????????????????????????

  • kate8

    I really enjoy your posts, JeffH. You are obviously a really sharp guy with a great sense of humor.

    You are also very precise with your information. Very helpful.
    Thanks for that.

    • JeffH

      kate8, thank you for the kind words and likewise to you. It’s an educational process for me and I feel it necessary to share what I have percieved as real and not pay a lot of attention to the “rumors” unless I can research their valdity. There are many on here that contribute to the process. As far as the sense of humor goes, it helps me stay somewhat balanced and my enemies off balance. As you know, I can take it but I will give it back in spades if it suites me.
      As you have figured out, you learn real fast who you can and cannot trust. Never let your heart be troubled…

  • eddie47d

    You should all read an article in Guidepost Magazine April edition P.48 by Dr. wm. Lascheid. He also lives in Florida. Here’s a compassionate Dr. who gives far more than he should. His attitude is almost opposite of Dr. Cassell. We could all learn from this gentleman.

    • American Citizen

      He may change his mind after he has to work for the government with all the mandates.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    It wasn’t that long ago that Alan Grayson lied about the GOP’s alternative health care reform ideas. Grayson said the GOP wanted people to hurry up and die!! That’s not only a lie, but the irony and paradox of the whole National health/hell care bill. The democraps are the ones who will cause needless deaths and suffering, due to the ensuing long waits and health care rationing. Speaking of Florida, let’s not forget Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D- district 20, FL) who lied (www.cnsnews.com 4/7/2010) saying there’s no mandate to buy insurance. If Florida voters are smart, they’ll defeat both Grayson and Schultz this November.

    As always, to all the drones and naïve Obama supporters who approve of this new raw deal, I ask: IF THE NEW HEALTH/HELL CARE BILL WHICH THE DEMOCRAPS JUST FORCED ONTO US IS SO GREAT, WHY WILL THESE JERKS EXEMPT THEMSELVES FROM IT, INSTEAD OF LIVING UNDER IT????!!!!

    As for Dr. Jack Cassell, he should stand his ground!! And if I were him, I’d add the names Grayson and Schultz to Obama’s name on the sign on his door!!

  • JPW-

    I am also a Medical Doctor and have a sign on my front door reading no CONSERVATIVES OR REPUBLICANS PLEASE.The reason I put the sign up was that 95% of the time they were just having mental issues not medical issues.My practice is truly thriving today.

    • eyeswideopen

      JPW, please explain to these people about how a doctor properly discharges a patient from his practice. They don’t understand “negligent abandonment” and what the procedures are for patient dismissal. Thx.

    • Mike In MI

      Hey-ho, JPW -
      That’s an awfully high percentage – 95%. Are you sure you don’t read-in your personal bias against Conservatives and Republicans to their presenting reports? Few psychiatrists would claim to be that accurate in their diagnoses of hypochondriasis; yet, you hit it that often? (Truely remarkable.) Do you refer them out to qualified specialists in that realm or just maintain them on psychotropics, Oxycontin, antidepressants, NSAIDs, off-label drugs, drugs of choice, placeboes or try-it-for-a-while samples or just tell them to get lost? Or, are you operating on the basis of Progressive legislator friends “favors” ordering Medicare/Aid granted freedom from fraud and abuse audits, for you? Or, did you just discharge all those dumb, crazy conservatives who might question overcharges or charges for undelivered services? Or do you render on-going services to addicts who you remunerate from gov’t subsidies to indigent poor patients who you go out and find every three months? Or, dead ones? Or, illegals? Or, capos who act as distributors on your behalf? Gollee-ee Sorgeant, thee-at saounds lak an ofal giud jowb!!!?

  • JeffH

    Like either of you two have any credibility at all! Find someone that believes either of you. Like the great Beatles once sang, Twist and Shout!

  • JeffH

    kate8, some people just don’t have the ability to understand, no matter how easy it is. A learning or comprehension disorder is more than likely the culprit in the comments attached by Dumb and Dumberer.

  • kate8

    I agree completely, JeffH. Why we even continue to try to reason with these people is beyond me. They are incapable of rational thinking.

    We understand that this doctor was making a statement. He never refused anyone treatment. It makes me sick how these morons always want to control EVERYONE in every possible way. They are a bunch of
    spoiled, whiny parasites with a victim consciousness. They don’t even
    have a clue how their thinking has been manipulated by those working for the destruction of our nation. They have no common sense.

    Have a great day, JeffH.

    • JeffH

      kate8..there may be some reasoning left to be learned, but to even try reasoning the “know” others is futile. Better to keep exposing them for what they are than enter into the leftist liberals “manipulative” arena.

  • kate8

    JeffH, as for “rumors”, where there is smoke there is usually fire.

    Interesting quote from someone: “You never know if something is really true until it has been officially denied”.

    • JeffH

      kate8…isn’t that the truth.

      • cr747

        JeffH,,and Kate8,,
        You two are so right..Dr. Cassell has the right to use his office any way he pleases..As for eyes she has no clue what she is saying,,and for JPW I would question his legalities of what he stated..

        I have always said this,,when someone is talking about me,,they are letting someone else rest..It doesn’t bother me at all what is said about me,,I know what I have lived,,and seen by serving my country for 22 years..I thank God For what he brought me through in the Vietnam era,,and if know one appreciates that I put my life on the line many times to possibly save one of their on,,then so be it..I lost some mighty good friends in my arms,,Some of them might have been part of your family,,or someone else commenting on here..So sorry for the families of ones I could not save,,and that lost Love Ones..It still hurts today..

        We are sitting on a time bomb,,and the President continues to sign all our rights away,,and letting other countries know just how vulnerable we are by signing the treaty in front of all nations who have nuclear weapons..

        May God Bless You All,,And Our Troops Fighting As Of This Writing,,And God Bless America.. Semper Fi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • JeffH

        The civilian private army is part of the HCB…watch and learn the truth of it.

        March 31, 2010 — I know it’s FOX News, but it is the substance that counts here. Remember Obama saying that we need a “civilian army that is just as well trained and funded as the military”? Well, here it is. Tucked away in the middle of the over 2,000 page health care monstrosity that nobody in congress bothered to even read.

        This is not just an expansion of the National Guard, no. This is a private health corp. that is to be trained by the military and will be under the direct command of the president. This is nothing short of tyranny and fascism, but many of the kool-aid drinkers will find a way to justify and defend this as well, despite the fact that it is in direct violation of the law that their beloved president took oath to uphold.

        I mean, come on. What do we need a private health care enforcement core for? What the hell does the military have to do with health care? Is it not enough that you are going to be MANDATED to by health care under the threat of penalty?

        http://www.personalliberty.com/feature-video/obamas-private-army/

  • chuck b

    in a campaign speech, barry spoke of forming some hind of unit like the job corp. and i believe it went over most peoples head. of course i being very suspicious of him, thought at the time he was up to some kind of skulduggery and then forgot about it, seems like he is keeping his word.
    i doubt if most people have a clue to the dangers of this health care act. most of the liberals think they are getting something for nothing and will be losing their freedom for the support. the most frightening thing is the fact the congress it self doesn’t have any knowledge of whats in this bill. typical liberal politics. now the insurance companies are raising rates, wait until the pawns or comrades see what this is going to cost them and the quality of their care is out the window. the republicans are not going to repeal this bill if they get back in power unless we get new people with courage to fight this administration, past republicans would never had the gumption to try. mcconnell said so much the other day, they wouldn’t be able to repeal this bill come november even if they won. so unless we get rid of these wimps, line up for the medication.

    • JeffH

      chuck b, he’s all about deception. The people are too dumb and will take his word for it, Pelosi’s and Reid’s. It is no more about the health care for the un-insured, it is about the sinister elements contaied in the bill that nobody bothered to read in detail and report that undermines the Constiution and increases his power for the takeover of our freedoms.

    • Markus

      Barry said, “We need a national military force that is as well funded and as powerful as our current military”. What? This guy is a Marxist and has been proven by Glenn Beck beyond a resonable doubt. Why doesn’t he just admit it and as a nation we can have the conversation about whether we want to go down that road. Instead, he is being subversive along with the rest of his Marxist cronies to implement a very dangerous and unfortunate liberty taking agenda. It is unfortunate that we have put ourselves into this postition, but God says that this will happen when we “kick him out of our country”. Hopefully it isn’t to late.

  • kate8

    Just wait until this HC army comes to your home to enforce mandatory vaccinations and medications. I understand there is also some kind of mandate for certain health examinations.

    I have a really bad feeling about this. I just read another article that said that there is going to be up to 5yrs prison if we don’t comply.

    I’m telling you all, we need to refuse to comply with these violations against us en masse. That is the only way that it will work. I hate the term “civil disobedience” because it implies that we, like children, are supposed to “obey” those in “authority” no matter what.

    THEY ARE THE ONES IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW OF THE LAND. NOT US. We have every right to stand in defiance of their tyranny. We have every right to defend our human sovereignty and our Constitution. No matter what they try do do, I draw the line at my skin.

    There is a big push to depopulate. They are very busy at it all over the world. Some of you know what I’m talking about, and those who don’t will probably not believe it. But I have no doubt that this is another aspect of this plan.

    • JeffH

      kate8, they will be quite unwelcome at my house ’cause ain’t nobody putin nothin in me I don’t want. I’ve got my own doctor for that, my choice.

  • zack

    Everyone needs to read the book, “American Conspiracies” by Jesse Ventura. I was told that the reason they had age limits on the Swine Flu Vaccine, was because it had a chemical in it that would make people who took it STERILE. If you get a chance look up the conspiracies of the Bilderbergs. Very interesting, I saw it on TV when they interviewed Jessie Ventura.

    • JeffH

      zack, check out this information….
      http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/ShadowParty.asp

      • zack

        JeffH::;
        that is all coming to be true;;I don’t trust any of the names that were on that list>>>>>>>>

    • Claire

      zack– this is one book I will buy. I am very curious to read what Ventura has to say. I missed seeing him on TV.

    • American Citizen

      Isn’t it strange that everything that happens in this country anymore is the result of a “conspiracy?” Don’t be taken in by this kind of talk. It all comes from the left.

    • zack

      Claire,,,
      the TV interview was great, and after that He was on Larry King live one night talking about the book….He also said that he had been having death threats on his life!!!!!May God watch over him…………

      • Claire

        zack— Dang, I am aggravated that I missed seeing him on Larry King!! I have listened to him in the past and liked what I heard. Geez, death threats? Why? He is no longer in office. Do you know what his plans are for the future? Is he going to run for an office?

  • kate8

    American Citizen, with all due respect, you need to get a clue.

    “Conspiracy theory” is a buzzword tactic used by those in control to ridicule anyone who seeks out the truth, thus keeping most people away from the truth. What is going on is so much more diabolical than all but a courageous few realize.

    Trying to wake people up is not a task anyone enjoys taking on, because no one wants to hear it. It’s too alarming. So one has to be able to endure being ridiculed and shunned and mocked, on top of having to find ways to cope with the sheer madness of the information.

    Don’t be so quick to discount things you don’t want to hear. There is, indeed, a lot of misinformation, but the truth reveals itself in time, for those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

    • zack

      kate8….American citizen will change his point of view when all this comes about—-

      It reminds me of obama signing the nuclear treaty with Russia,,,,possibly did it for a cover up for the conspiracy::;; I do not trust that man at all!!!!!!!

  • kate8

    This is the most concise, rational, well-researched article I’ve ever seen on how we are being conditioned to respond according to the plans of the elite. Read this and you will see how we are all being mind-controlled on a daily basis.

    The only way to free ourselves is to be aware. Pass this around everywhere.

    http://deprogram.net/2010/04/10/one-day-soon-we'll-all-be-“homegrown-terrorists”/?utm_source=feedburner

  • kate8

    Darn. I don’t know why this link doesn’t work here.

    This is just too good not to get out there. I’ll try to find another way.

  • kate8

    I put up the right links and they removed them. Don’t know why, as
    it is a great article on how our thinking is being controlled. Something everyone needs to know, so that we are aware and don’t fall for it.

    This is really weird. I think I’m outta here.

    • JeffH

      kate8, I just read the commentary…very good insight and a very good reason to “never let your guard down” with these radicals that want control…After Waco and Ruby Ridge, anything is possible.

      • libertytrain

        kate, jeff, zack – kind of drives me crazy to hear this kind of thing about the links – keep in mind, some programs (not the people) read them as spam, or people just don’t copy the links correctly or the site you are at doesn’t want to be copied because it’s a page open only to members. There are a dozen or more reasons why something like a link doesn’t work and conspiracy isn’t usually one of them. Could be as simple as the linked-to-site didn’t pay it’s bill and they’ve been ‘taken off the air’ so to speak, until they do.

        • Granma Harp

          libertytrain, I always test my links after the post. I don’t think anything is intentionaly deleted on this site. It’s sometimes just the wrong stroke of a key that makes a differance. No conspiracy thoughts on that one.

          • libertytrain

            I think you forgot something —–

        • JeffH

          libertytrain, I always check my links after my comment is posted. I, too, don’t think anything is being deleted intentionally. I’m sure you know how computers can be sensitive to the touch sometimes.

          • libertytrain

            yep. And it’s hard to remember everything -

          • JeffH

            For sure, do need to be reminded from time to time….

    • zack

      kate8,,,,I went there and it had been moved!!!!!!!!!!!

      • zack

        I meant REMOVED!!!!!!!!

    • Mike In MI

      Katie8, JeffH, zack, s.c., Am.Cit., Am. Pat., DaveH, cr747, et al:

      You folks have all got a handle on “facts of the crisis”. So-o-o what? Kate8 you hit the nail when you used the term, knowledgeably I’m sure, “diabolical” up above. You all have some bits and bytes of “facts”. But, “factual information” gets you nowhere, ultimately, without a means to combat those who see you as their enemy – and I mean that in the singular. YOUR enemy is way ahead of you and WILL beat your efforts because his intel network sees, preempts and can render your every move – even your, subrosa, plans – to resist futile. Your enemy is no flesh and blood adversary which you can see, hear, feel, taste or touch.

      Therefore, you need a similar ally which is WAY ahead of your adversary. If you can hear it, only One Candidate is possible…God. Once you get in His sphere of intimate influence you have nine (9) bases of power that as you will (if you will) to use them are irresistible. You have five (5) Rights that give you privileges, from Him, which allow you to say and do, without fear of effectual retribution or reprisal (John Wycliffe), things that must be said and done to accompish His goals and objectives once you “will to” align yourself with Him.

      But, you MUST first be faithful to the best representation of His written Instructions, that you can find, before He can or will entrust you with greater responsibilities. JeffH and cr747, if you think you’ve been railed on in past, you ain’t seen nuthin’ yet – if you take this assignment.

      Same goes for anybody else reading this who has a desire to live free of normal encumbrances. Your whole concept of “reality” will become different. Why? God, not men or “experience” or ordinary concepts of “common sense”, prevails where people put things of the Kingdom of God to the test and take Him at His Word.

      Academics believe Biblical accounts are myths, legends, products of “verbal tradition”, exageration and extrapolation. Scripture explains the world as God knows it is, not how academics percieve it from their marble towers. How do you think Geo. Washington and his rag-tag crew beat Howe’s hordes in their day? Read “The Light and The Glory” by Peter Marshall and David Manuel. God can overwhelm any technology, now or forever. If not, I’d be dead.

      “Facts” are figments. Truth trumps figments.

      • Mike In MI

        By the Way of Clairification:
        I’m not talking about an armed insurrection or confrontation here.
        The raw, irresistible power of God’s Word on the lips of a believer who knows Who God is according to what He says about Himself IN His Word is the greatest force in the Universe. After all when God started His restorative activity after the overthrow in Genesis 1 It reads, “And God SAID – Light BE”. Whaddya’ think happened?
        What should we think will happen if we speak appropriate Words on our authority from God? He’s given believers some fabulous stuff. Why do you think He did so? ‘Cause we don’t need it? NO! Because we do
        need it. He knows it and wants to help. But, you’ve got to do it HIS way.
        I’ll give you a guarantee – on the authority of the Word. The forces in charge of this stupid world fear a believer who claims his God-given power and authority and stands on it. It paralyses them. Why else would they work so hard to remove Biblical stuff from everything? Words, Words, Words – are powerful (if spoken with believing authority).
        In the first century, starting from Jerusalem, they moved out for and with God’s backing. They changed the course of history without firing a shot or pulling a sword from its scabbard. They were enabled by learning what God has given, what He can and will do, and how to do it. Then, they openned their mouths to rend darkness with light. (Read Hebrews 11:6 about twenty times over, s-l-o-w-ly; savor each word and its meaning; let the sense of it penetrate. Then, decide whether you think His rewards are likely to be worthwhile.) And they were not a bunch of holier than thou, nose in the air, self-righteous, repulsive misfits, either.

  • Markus

    http://www.godswarningtotheworld.com///The website was mispelled above. Sorry

  • kate8

    Markus, your ling did not work for me.

    Mike in MI, I agree with you on this. The only thing is that one must discover the truth about God through personal experience and revelation. Just like everything else in this virtual existence, the Truth about God has been twisted and distorted six ways from Sunday (or Saturday) to keep us in the dark. ALL IS DECEPTION.

    • Mike In MI

      katie8 – Then has some mighty human (or Other being), no doubt smarter and more powerful than God, nullified the promise God gave: “Seek and you SHALL find”? I searched for three years after becoming convinced life really was futile and not worth living without the ability to have a heart-to-heart with (who)whatever created everything. He was faithful to the promise with me. Heck, I didn’t even know I was operating on Biblical principle, but I was. He honorred the action I took.

      Your a great Lady. Good Hunting.

  • kate8

    Marcus, I meant link.

  • kate8

    Mike in MI: I’ve sought God all my life, and have gone down many roads in the process. There have been times when I thought I found the answers, too. But it always led to more questions.

    The more I’ve learned, the more I realize I do not know. There is a great deal more going on here than we have ever learned, and there are those with reasons for not wanting us to know. If you have found
    what you are looking for in only 3 years, then more power to you.

    I am aware of the scriptural promises that those who seek Him shall not be disapponted. I’m counting on it.

    • Markus

      http://www.godswarningtotheworld.com That is the link, maybe just type it in. Everyone should look at this and understand what is, I believe, to be very close. “No man no the day or the hour, but you will know the season”.

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