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Florida Attorney General Proposes Strict Immigration Laws

August 17, 2010 by  

Florida attorney general proposes strict immigration laws Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum has unveiled a historically aggressive immigration bill proposal that he said would go "one step further" than Arizona’s controversial new law, which was recently stripped of its key provisions by a Federal judge.

Similar to Arizona’s legislation, McCollum’s proposal would require law enforcement personnel to verify the immigration status of individuals who they "reasonably suspect" of being an illegal immigrant. Furthermore, the bill would mandate that legal resident aliens carry their immigration documentation at all times or face up to 20 days in jail.

However, the legislation would go beyond Arizona’s measure by requiring businesses to utilize a national database to verify a person’s immigration status before hiring them. It would also allow judges to impose stiffer penalties on illegal immigrants who break the law.

"This legislation will provide new enforcement tools for protecting our citizens and will help our state fight the ongoing problems created by illegal immigration," said McCollum. "Florida will not be a sanctuary state for illegal aliens."

McCollum—a Republican who is in the midst of a heated primary election race for governor—was heavily criticized for unveiling his plan two weeks prior to the election, according to The Miami Herald.

"It’s clear the only way to get McCollum to take any action on anything is when he’s down in the polls," said Rick Scott, his opponent in the upcoming primary race.
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  • http://?? Joe H.

    On this type of law I don’t care what letter is after the writters name. BRING IT ON!!!!!! Make it law!!!

    • eyeswideopen

      Joe H, you don’t even know that in Fl, most of the illegal immigrants are Cubans who physically set foot on US soil. They don’t go through the legal process, and they are given all rights, including SS even though they have never worked in this country. We don’t have that many illegals from m Mexico here, but we do have a migrant work force, that pales in comparrison to the Cuban population most of which came here illegally. Why do you think Cuba gets such favored treatment??? Open your eyes and start asking why you are paying for the cubans along with the mexicans.

  • s c

    I’m all for it. Wouldn’t it be interesting if Florida’s law is tougher than Arizona’s, but it doesn’t get treated like a red-headed stepchild by a rotten, knuckle-dragging judge this time?
    I would almost admit to being a hardcore pessimist, but I suspect the word is “out,” and any judge who gets a chance to slam dunk Florida’s new law and doesn’t do it will feel the full wrath of a twit named Holder.

    • Jim H.

      Rick Scott says, “It’s clear the only way to get McCollum to take any action on anything is when he’s down in the polls”. That tells me that We the People support tougher immigration laws. I hope that even if McCollum loses the primary, he continues with the proposal. It’s still just a proposal and I hope it’s written into a bill and signed by the governor. When Holder goes after Florida, more states should then make their proposal.

    • 45caliber

      You are right. I heard of a judge a few years ago who was dealing with a case of the government against someone. The someone was innocent but the government informed the judge that he was to find the person guilty since they wanted to make an example of him.

      The next year the judge was arrested and charged with tax fraud. It seemed that the government went to his accountant and told his accountant to falsify the judge’s income tax return or they would shut him down. The judge lost his job, most of his funds, and spent several years in jail for something he didn’t do – just so they could punish him for not following orders.

      • Carole Howell

        45 Caliber,

        Where can I go to get that story about the Judge?

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Carole,
          I could tell you where to go but I’m a gentleman!

          • Linda

            Joe H. You are no gentleman or you would not even think of telling Carol where to go for wanting to research the facts….

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    More states need to step up to the plate! Who cares what the motivation is to bring about stricter laws, it needs to be done!

  • Michael J.

    Rick Scott is correct about McCollum being a political opportunist.
    My personel choice would be Rick Scott however, either candidate would be better for Florida than Charlie Crist, the closet Democrat.

  • Facts

    THE FACTS ARE THAT JAN BREWER, McCollum AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOING THIS TO GET REELECTED, HERE ARE FACTS.

    1, HOW MUCH MONEY $$$$$$$ IS ALLOCATED TO ENFORCE THIS LAW?? NONE.

    2, HOW MANY NEW POLICEMEN / WOMEN SHES HIRED TO HOLD AND PROCESS THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS? NONE.

    3, HOW MANY NEW IMMIGRATION JUDGES SHES HIRED TO PROCESS THE THOUSANDS OF DEPORTATION CASES?? NONE.

    4, HOW MANY NEW JAILS SHES BUILT TO HOLD THE THOUSANDS OF UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS? NONE.

    5, HOW MANY BUSES / PLANES SHES BROUGHT TO DEPORT THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF THOSE WHO ARE ORDERED BY THE IMMIGRATION JUDGES TO BE DEPORTED?? NONE.

    CAN ANYONE ANSWER THESE FACTS? THE REPUBLICAN STATES ARE TRYING TO MAKE THIS THEIR PLATFORM, THEY WILL LOSE BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG TIME.
    ALL ARE GODS CHILDREN. NO HUMAN IS ABOVE ANOTHER. ALL ARE CREATED BY ONE ALMIGHTY GOD WHO LOVES ALL HIS CHILDREN.
    I AM NOT SAYING DON’T CLOSE THE BORDERS I AM SAYING STOP THE FOOLISH HATE AND IGNORANCE.

    • flip4truth

      Just a lot of BS from FACTS

    • Ricky Roo

      You remind me of the grandfather who was totally against handing out condoms in the schools because he knew that doing so would just promote sex in school…duh. That was until his granddaughter got aids from unprotected sex…

      • http://naver sook young

        That’s not the schools job, it’s job is education. Ask the children to wait till they are married then many of the problems we face these days with teen age pregnancy, HIV, BCP, etc, wouldn’t exist or would be a lot less than it is now.

        “Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall be forever encouraged.” Northwest Ordinance April 07, 1789

        Thank you.

        Sook Young
        Wife of the Samurai

    • ValDM

      We may all be God’s children;that being said, true believers in Godand His Son OBEY THE LAW. What part of “illegal” don’t you GET???

      • Carole Howell

        I agree, we have to do a better job of policing our borders. We have laws and they should be followed it has nothing what-so-ever to do with racism.

        If tons of cocaine and millions of illegals can come into this country, then what is to prevent our enemies with suitcase sized nuclear weapons from coming in. There is no such thing as National Security here. National Security is just a term our elected officials use to hide their own crimes.

    • Virginia

      People who run off at the mouth (fingers?) should check their “facts” before doing so. AZ can’t hire police, etc. because they’re going broke as well. We’re not as bad as CA but it’s getting close. We’ve been billing the Feds for the money it takes to house all these illegal aliens who’ve broken the law. And…our dear ex-governor, now Homeland Security Secretary (what a laugh that is!) and her cronies in the White House are ignoring us. Check it out. Protecting our borders is one of the only original responsibilities of the FEDERAL government.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Virginia,
        fact needs to consider the FACTS before he posts! No state can deport, only the feds can deport!! The states turn them over to ICE and THEY deport or not!!!

        • viktor leben

          Seems to a violation of habeus corpus. The illegal immigrant should speedily be brought before the judge ! Expediant processing ! And i’m not talking about vacations, instead deportation ….

    • BrotherPatriot

      We actually don’t need new laws for immigration…we need to enforce the ones that we have. But if making some new laws will get our states/government to actually start taking care of the immigration problem…then so be it. This all stems from the Federal Government not doing their job…if they were, all these problems wouldn’t exist. However, due to the Agenda that is being played out its obvious that they don’t WANT to enforce the laws..they want to let all these illegals to become future democrats due to being granted amnesty. <— What a bunch of CRAP.

      All illegals should be gathered up and removed from the country. Period. If this were done…many, many, MANY problems would go away. I'll not even bother to list the benefits of such an action…common sense should prevail and I believe this Nation is moving in that direction.

      I'll not begin my Rant on the one world order people here *cough BILDERBERGS cough*…even though the Agenda I spoke of above is exactly theirs. As Michele Bachmann said, we need to get rid of the Chicago style mafia government and then unravel all the damage they have done.

      Deporting ALL illegals is one step in the right direction.

    • 45caliber

      No money for more cops? She doesn’t need more since they aren’t actively hunting for illegals. No money for jails? No appointments of judges to handle the load? That is FEDERAL business, not a state. Besides, the last I heard they were planning to set up tents, like the ones used for their criminals. You are sort of behind the times, aren’t you?

    • http://naver Samurai

      If I remember right, California is also having problems with illegal immigration and it tends to be (Not all areas of course) lib. Why? I don’t know. Here in Indiana, we are also having immigration problems and would like our governor to set up our own laws also. It’s not about hate, death, and destruction, but it is about protecting this country and the people that live in it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • dan az

      Facts
      how much does the government pay for the deportation of these illegals
      fact nota,who pays now, taxpayers of az.How much crime is there in phoenix ? alot how do we get rid of it? export the crime back to where it came.Look jerk off they are not the only ones that are crossing the borders terrorist are by the hundreds every day. who are you going to blame when your family gets bombed by some radical islamist that only wants to get laid by a bunch of virgins?Can you stop them? There are 40 million illegals here now how many are there that want to blow you up can you stop them?The problem is real the solution is simple close the damn borders.Very soon you will be asking your self how could this of happened.Then you like all the others will start pointing fingers just like your messia.Its not about relection its about your saftey and others that are in grave dangers right now.So wake up wake up wake up its for real this time its not a make believe dream can you smell the flesh burning?

      • Linda

        We live in a canyon near the Mexico border and have for over a week now been hearing Arabic voices and the Arabic languages spoken by people traveling through our area on the same paths the Mexican illegals use. It is not just about Mexican, Central and South American people coming here illegally. I worked in Portland, Oregon near Portland State University as a teenage and through I don’t speak Arabic, I do know those languages when I heard them from my extensive exposure to the foreign students I dealt with daily in my job. The Middle Eastern cultures are moving through this area too. Do you really think they are sneaking in here with good will in their hearts?

    • Linda

      I use to feel the same about illegal immigration, until we moved to Arizona. I live 10 miles from the border. My husband had to quit his $32,000 a year job because of death threats, by illegals who are allow in Santa Cruz County Arizona to run “Rabid”. Why the threats you ask “for being white and English speak”. In addition to the death threats against himself, they saw me leave his place of business after delivering his lunch one day, and tried to force me off the road while screaming threats of rape and death at me. Plus there has been 8 murders within 4 miles of us from shoot-outs between drug smugglers. Our 87 year old female neighbor had and illegal beating on her door at 10:30PM with 2 bullet wounds after one such shoot-out. “DEPORT THESE CRIMINALS” and they “ARE” criminals.

  • Facts

    Moments after signing Arizona’s tough new immigration law in April, Gov. Jan Brewer was asked WHAT A ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT LOOKS LIKE????

    The question, posed during a news conference that was broadcast live on TV, seemed to catch Brewer off guard. After a long pause, she said, “I DON’T KNOW WHAT A ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT LOOKS LIKE. I can tell you that there are people in Arizona that ASS-U-ME they know what an illegal immigrant looks like. I DON’T KNOW IF THEY KNOW THAT FOR A FACT OR NOT.”

    Her answer cut to the very heart of the controversy surrounding the law, which takes effect July 29. Although there are many people who assume they know what an illegal immigrant looks like, the fact is, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE to tell a person’s immigration status by appearance, experts say.

    So despite assurances to the contrary, some civil-rights groups and others fear that enforcement of the law will lead to racial profiling. Several lawsuits already raise worries of civil-rights violations, and a group of Arizona law professors concluded the law authorizes enforcement based on ethnicity. That, they allege, would mean officers would end up harassing and possibly detaining people who aren’t illegal immigrants.

    The vast majority of illegal immigrants are Hispanic. But most Hispanics in Arizona are not illegal immigrants – they are legal residents or U.S. citizens, many with roots dating back generations.

    Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2010/07/18/20100718illegal-immigration-profiling.html#ixzz0u2wY1a1d

    • darlene

      if you are legal how hard is it to show you are legal. I was stopped for a headlight out and the first thing was produce my drivers license. Why do we have to have licenses, proof of insurance, tags, etc. while they steal cars, wreck, and run away. Or like what happened here in Orlando, sue even though they are here illegally. Thank God there are people, like those in Arizona, fighting for our country.

      • Don Ramon

        It doesn’t help when some states issue liscences to illegals. If people are here on visas that should be added as part of the liscence. I’m sure they could make room to add immigrant visa expiration dates to the liscence even if it’s just a stamp like DONOR.

      • Linda

        Showing proof of status is not a problem, if you are legal. I have a couple of points on the matter of showing proof: 1) If you have contact with the police you have to show your driver’s license or some form of ID, period. The problem is the if you are illegal you can’t get a license in Arizona, so it is harder to lie your way out. 2) My wonderful daughter in law is here from Russian legally and the law said she must have her papers with her at all time. She thinks that all the fuss is for not, if you are indeed legal. If you are a citizen just show your ID. If you are a legal immigrant show your papers as required by law. So: 3) You only have a problem if you are an illegal or criminal even homegrown on the run. 4) In many areas of the country, if you don’t have ID on you, you can be arrested for vagrancy anyway.

    • ValDM

      “Racial profiling”? Really? Please pull your head out and understand
      this: Hispanic is not a “race”. I see no difference in my being asked
      to provide I.D. if I am stopped, and their being asked for I.D. while being stopped. They can’t. Only trouble
      with your logic is that they should never be stopped…..only “legal”
      citizens. Do you have to provide I.D. when you cash check? Get on a
      plane? Rent a car? Check into a motel? or any of the myriad activities
      that we all do daily? This law isn’t about “targeting” anyone…..it’s
      about checking immigration status WHEN you’re stopped for any infraction that gets you noticed by the police.

    • BrotherPatriot

      If detaining some people happens…it’s well worth it compared to a nation over ran by the illegals. Jan Brewer, due to the high level of this situation was being very cautious with her answer is all. But I would have to say…that the highest number of illegal aliens in America is indeed mexicans. .<

    • Palin12

      It’s not hard to spot illegal aliens at all. If you had as many of them living in your neighborhood as I do, you’d know! One of the houses very close to mine had 12-15 people living in it, several of them sleep on cots in an un-airconditioned garage in 100+ weather. Every night, they had 7-10 old junk cars piled up on the lawn and some parked in front of my house unmoved for weeks at a time (I’ve had to call the cops 6 times so far). In addition, they do no maintenance of the properties whatsoever, with trash strewn about all over the front and weeds growing 3 feet high. Oh, did I mention the graffitti on the garage doors?

      • Palin12

        PS Happy to say, the inhabitants of that house have mostly self-deported!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Palin12
          Next time that happens, try calling city hall building department and inform them that the house at such and such an address is violating city code by having too many people occupy a single family zoned structure! If they don’t enforce the codes call the state and report your city!!! It does work, we did it here!

          • Palin12

            Thanks Joe, I’ll keep that in mind.

      • 45caliber

        My wife inherited a house in another state. We tried to sell it without going there for less than the appraised amount. The only bids were for FAR less!

        Finally the realtor admitted that there were about 24 illegals living in it. I asked that they be run off or arrested. She told me that if they tried, they could simply come back and total the house. She also told me that any empty house was left unlocked to prevent them from breaking down the door to stay there.

        We ended up selling at half the value just to get rid of the place.

    • dan az

      Fantasy facts
      you still want to make this a race issue? Are you a mexican?Ask any legal mexican if the law would make them uncomfortable and you will find that they already have to show there drivers lic. there insurance cards and green cards if they have one.Really you believe this crap that you spew or are you just looking for some one to argue with?

  • Facts

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/reagan-insider-gop-destroyed-us-economy-2010-08-10

    This week, the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) came out with a report entitled, The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on U.S. Taxpayers, which discusses the costs of unauthorized immigration to the United States. As usual, FAIR has put out a highly misleading fiscal snapshot of the costs allegedly imposed on U.S. taxpayers by unauthorized immigrants and completely discounts the economic contributions of unauthorized workers and consumers. Moreover, FAIR inflates their costs in a variety of ways and conveniently ignores any contributions that would offset these costs.

    While the publication is long and deals with a wide range of issues that warrant more dissection by credible economic experts, the trade publication Education Week has already begun the deconstruction with an item that sheds light on their misleading claims about providing English language services in schools.

    Another argument FAIR makes, which makes it hard to glean what their solution would be is the high cost of deporting undocumented workers which FAIR blames on the immigrants themselves. It’s a somewhat circular argument to say that the cost of undocumented immigrants includes the cost of failing law enforcement efforts. So, in essence, FAIR is saying that the deport-them-all approach costs too much money and doesn’t work. Yet their “solution” is to spend even more money on enforcement.

    FAIR’s data is meant only to reinforce their vision of “attrition through enforcement.” It is not rooted in an effort to move the immigration debate forward. Therefore, passing comprehensive immigration reform – which would yield a cumulative $1.5 trillion in added U.S. gross domestic product over 10 years – is the only sound economic decision the United States can make.

    SOURCE Immigration Policy Center

    • JC

      Liberal hack…and total anti-American.
      Secure the borders and profile to do it…NOW!

      • dan az

        JC
        this guy not only drinks the kool aid but is the distributor

    • Linda

      Excuse me “FACTS”, the illegals in the country irregardless, of race, color or country of origin make little or not contribution, they pay no taxes, they live 15 – 40 to a house, they send most of the money they make out of the country. In addition, they are a hugh part of the identity theft in this country, I spoke with a local woman here in Arizona just a week ago, who is going through hell to regain her identity after it was stolen by a group of hispanics in California who had two apartments rented in her name that where destroyed by the 20+ illegals living in each apartment. She found out about it when the landlords came after her for the damages. In our area just two weeks ago they caught an illegal with 5 stolen indentities, who was collection welfare and food stamps under each of the stolen indentities.

  • steve

    every single alien “BROKE THE LAW!” Our Government, has allowed the invasion of 20 to 30 million criminals which is the largest invasion of any Nation, at any time, in direct violation of Article IV, Section IV of our Constitution. They allow the invasion, they force American tax payers to pay Billions of dollars to provide Welfare, Prison cells, Educate the invaders children, free medical care, the invaders break numerous laws,massive document fraud, & are destroying our schools, hospitals, communities, culture & standard of living while Robbing, Raping, Killing & Assaulting American Citizens WAKE UP PEOPLE!

    Every single Non-representing representative, up to and including obama and holder need to be IMPEACHED! for not upholding the oath of office that they swore to uphold and defend the Constitution! If these clowns were to do their job, this would all be a Moot point!

    • darlene

      You have my vote.

    • BrotherPatriot

      Agreed, Steve…but I must add that Obummer doesn’t need to be Impeached. That would lead us to believe that he had a valid right to the office that he holds. He doesn’t as he is an usurper. He may even not be an American citizen as he hasn’t provided documentation to prove this…its just assumed. When he went to Indonesia and went to school as a child, I believe he gave up his american citizen ship (if he actually ever had it to begin with) and was declared a citizen & a muslim so he could go to school.

      He will be removed in discrace and everything he has pushed through & shoved down our throats will be ripped out by the roots. Obummer care will go away and America will begin enforcing our immigration laws. This is the future that I forsee…once we get some REAL American patriots in office & trust me…they are out there and actively campaigning for office. They need your votes in November people…get the encumbants out. Get the proven socialist, communist, marxist, democratic, treasonist traitors out of our government before the people rise up in revolt and remove them ourselves. WE are trying to do this peacefully but if forced, Americans will stand up for what is right and do what is right. Not all democrats are part of the labeled above traitors, but as it was said so very long ago and being proven in current times…their agenda is plain as day now as revealed by this much earlier comment…

      Norman Thomas went on to say “I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democratic Party has adopted our platform.” <— Was apparently said back in 1945 or so…and how so true those words ring now.

      • Vippy

        Oh please. Personal attacks on Obama makes the whole statement invalid. Don’t you think they do their job before he puts in for running for president, geez! I agree with everything else.

        • Big D

          Oh Please Yourself , If they did their jobs ,as you assume ,this whole post would not be here . Hellooooo

          • libertytrain

            nicely said -

      • Claire

        The way I see it, both parties have contributed to this chaos we are in. They have been giving America and all Americans the “shaft” for decades.

    • 45caliber

      One of the real problems here is that we have one of the softest prison systems in the world. We do still have the death penalty but it certainly isn’t hard labor!! Probably only England’s system is easier.

      In any case, this is known all over the world. Criminals in many countries, including Mexico, knows this. Their view is that it is better to rob a rich American than a poor person in their own country. (Rich is a word that varies with your background. To them, even those on Welfare here are rich.) And if they do get caught, they expect that they will have to serve less time at a much better place than they would at home. And they have their own government to intercede (they think) if they do get caught. So why not come here to commit crimes? Particularly since in most cases, if they are caught, they are simply given a plane ticket back home.

      So we not only get the poor who want jobs but also all their criminals as well.

      • dan az

        Hey 45
        I say we give them to sheriff joe and his chain gang the tents would at least be more for there liking.Every one that is illegal should be building the fence dont you agree?

        • 45caliber

          Personally, I think that every illegal caught should spend at least six months building on the border fence before being sent home. It would get the fence built and it would discourage them from coming back.

  • darlene

    Gov. Brewer is in the fight for her state and our country. McCollum needs to be defeated and Scott deserves a shot at getting things done for our state and country. Every time I see Gov. Brewer my respect for her grows. Legal immigration, no problem. ‘Anchor babies’ and crap like that. . .no way! Wake up America!!!

  • silent majority

    Change the 14TH ammendment to the Constitution.Then it will no longer be an incentive for the illegals to come here to have their kids.There are travel agencies that do this as a business.They have package deals,tickets, hotels,doctors,hospitals,etc.By changing the 14th it will put them out of business and the bleeding hearts cant say we shouldnt deport US citizens,because parents and KIDS will not be anything but illegal.They repealed Prohibition when they saw that wasnt working.

    • Kinetic1

      Do you people limit your “fact finding” to sites like this? Have you heard nothing about the reality of so called “anchor babies”? You make it sound as if the family is home free and citizen ship bound just as soon as their baby is born. Truth is, the parents and family can’t even begin to move towards immigration until the child is 21. 21 years of hiding from the law just to BEGIN the process. And let me tell you, it’s a LOOONG process. Even if you go for the easiest route and marry a U.S. Citizen, it can take years to get your citizenship. This is just another scare tactic by those who want you give them power and control over your lives. The same people who warn us that whites will soon be the minority, but fail to mention that the new “majority” will be a collective of ALL the current minorities. So what is the point? Are we to believe that Hispanics, African Americans, Asians etc. are all going to join forces and take over the country? As so many of you like to say, WAKE UP!

      • Michael J.

        Kinetic1,
        The reality of anchor babies according to F.A.I.R.

        An anchor baby is defined as an offspring of an illegal immigrant or other non-citizen, who under current legal interpretation becomes a United States citizen at birth. These children may instantly qualify for welfare and other state and local benefit programs. Additionally with the passage of the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, the child may sponsor other family members for entry into the United States when he or she reaches the age of twenty-one (See also Chain Migration). The sheer numbers are staggering. In Stockton, California (2003), 70 percent of the 2,300 babies, born in San Joaquin General Hospital’s maternity ward were anchor babies. 1

        Interpreting the 14th Amendment
        In Parkland Memorial Hospital Dallas, the second busiest maternity ward in the United States, 70% of the women giving birth were illegal aliens. That added up to 11,200 babies for which Medicaid kicked in 34.5 million dollars to deliver these babies, the feds another 9.5 million and Dallas taxpayers tossed in 31.3 million. The average illegal patient is 25 years and giving birth to her second anchor baby.
        -Reiniers, John. Hernando Today, “Anchor Babies.” January 25, 2008.
        According to the Constitution’s 14th Amendment, ratified in 1868 to ensure citizenship for the newly emancipated African Americans, “all persons, born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.” The phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” was intended to exclude from automatic citizenship American-born persons whose allegiance to the United States was incomplete. For example, Native Americans were excluded from American citizenship because of their tribal jurisdiction. Also not subject to American jurisdiction were foreign visitors, ambassadors, consuls, and their babies born here. In the case of illegal aliens, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child. Therefore, some Constitutional scholars argue that the completeness of the allegiance to the United States is impaired and logically precludes automatic citizenship. However, this issue has never been directly decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.

        The Price We Pay
        “Make no mistake, Americans are happy to welcome immigrants who follow our immigration laws and see a better lifer here. America is far more welcoming and tolerant of newcomers than virtually any nation on earth. But our modern welfare state creates pervasive incentives for immigrants, incentives that cloud the issue of why people chose to come here. We cannot afford to open our pocketbooks to the rest of the world. We must end the pervasive incentives that encourage immigrants to come here illegally, including the anchor baby incentive.
        -Representative Ron Paul, Texas Straight Talk October 02, 2006
        The nation’s school system faces the economic burden of providing services to the millions of children born to illegal immigrants. In a 2004 United States General Accounting Office report, three states submitted their annual cost estimates of educating illegal children. The estimates provided ranged from 50 million dollars to 87.5 million in Pennsylvania and 932 million to 1.04 billion dollars in Texas.1

        FAIR estimates there are about 363,000 children born to illegal aliens each year. This figure is based on the crude birth rate of the total foreign-born population (33 births per 1000) and the size of the illegal alien population (13 million in 2008) adjusted downward to account for the estimate that females are a smaller share of the illegal alien population than the foreign-born population.2

        What Does This Mean?
        Higher Taxes: The federal government has control over immigration law for the United States. By not correcting this mis-application of the 14th Amendment, the funds that state and local governments must provide to anchor babies amounts to a virtual tax on U.S. citizens to subsidize illegal aliens.

        Disrespect for the rule of law: Congress, by failing to act on legislation aimed at correcting the interpretation of citizenship by birth, in effect rewards law-breakers and punishes those who have chosen to follow the rules and immigrate legally.

        The original intent of the 14th Amendment was clearly not to facilitate illegal aliens defying U.S. law and obtaining citizenship for their offspring, nor obtaining benefits at taxpayer expense. The United States is unusual in its offer to extend citizenship to anyone born on its soil. Other developed countries have changed their citizenship practice to eliminate the problems caused by the practice of birthright citizenship.1 The anchor baby problem has grown to such large proportions that the United States can no longer afford to ignore it. The logical first step for correcting the problem is for Congress to adopt legislation clarifying the meaning of the 14th amendment.

      • Michael J.

        Kenetic1,
        You said: “Are we to believe that Hispanics, African Americans, Asians etc. are all going to join forces and take over the country”?

        Apparently you’ve never heard of La Raza, read the Quran or listened to the rantings of The New Black Panther Party.

        • Kinetic1

          You missed my point. I was speaking of all these groups working TOGETHER. When was the last time you heard La Raza talking about joining forces with the New Black Panthers? (Now that I’ve said it, I’m sure you’ll see all sorts of warnings about the collective threat to come.) Also, these groups don’t represent every member of each ethnic race, so the suggestion that they will mobilize and take over is akin to suggesting that White Americans will all don white hoods and join the KKK.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            immovable1,
            Did you know that there are areas of Las Vegas that the police won’t even enter in force?? They are out numbered, out gunned, and at a distinct disadvantage!!! LaRaza OWNS those areas of the city and they control 90% of the crime in Vegas!!!

          • Michael J.

            Kenetic1,
            I get it now, you are suggesting that these groups only pose a threat if they consolidate into one force. Progressive logic is the oxymoronic equivalent of jumbo shrimp.

        • dan az

          Michael J
          very well put your education is showing worth every penny!

      • Big D

        In order to hide from the law , said law would have to be enforced .

  • patrick

    Every state should begin changing their laws on illegal immigrants. This will have a positive effect in that it will force Holder and the Obammy admin. to concentrate their efforts and all the law suits they will bring onto each state! Benefit: we will enjoy peace and quiet times watching the news because we won’t have to listen to their daily flooding of the Bullshit, lies, and racism.

    • Linda

      The only reason, Obama is worried about the new immigration law passed in Arizona and being worked on elsewhere is that he fears that he might be forced to show “HIS PAPERS”, which I personally don’t believe he can. He has no concern for these people.

  • Thomas P. Young

    Immigration,I agree that all states should be able to pas IMMIGRATION laws as long as it is the will of the people without the fear of some judge missing with it. This is I think is a country of the PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE AND BY THE PEOPLE.

  • John R. Harbison

    This country has many, many problems. This is a good first step in getting our country back on track. I take my hat off to Florida and Arizona. I would be proud if my state of Texas followed suit.

    You local and state goverment people please don’t stop here. We must take our country back and get it on the right track. We can only do this with hard working good God fearing people

  • JC

    Florida and Arizona along with any and every other state that wants to enforce immigration laws…must be ready to nullify any Federal ruling that tries to stop them from doing so.
    The United states was NOT founded on the principle of absolute submission to the Federal Government…in fact the truth is very much the opposite.

  • chuck b

    isn’t it a little strange, we are close to an election and all these politicians start making laws to control immigration? where were they years ago when it was obvious this was going to be a problem?. like leading the horses out after the barn burnt down.

    • Claire

      chuck b — You are correct in what you say. It is getting close to November–we are going to hear all kinds of “promises” from both parties. Egad–you speak the truth-where were they years ago before this mess became so big and ugly?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Claire,
        I saw the news about Blago today. I pity all of you conservatives that live in Illinois if you have to entertain people as stupid as that jury!!!! If he lied to the FBI about crimes committed, then he committed them!!!!!What’s there to be a hung jury on about that????

        • Claire

          Joe H–Bob and I are positively sick about this entire sham. Of course the trial was held in Chicago. It should have been here in Springfield. The jury certainly wasn’t doing their job. Neither was the prosecution. Rahm Emmanuel should have been called in and put on the witness stand right along with Obama. They didn’t put Blago on the stand probably because of his mouth. His mouth would have done him in–he doesn’t know when to shut up. One count–unbelievable. The next trial will be on the taxpayer’s dime and according to the news there will be another trial. Meanwhile Blago is running around loose. Blago is absolutely crazy, the little weasel. He really has some loose screws. I find it very interesting that he kept sayng he would not be convicted. He went around tooting his own horn and literally slapped the decent citizens of Illinois in the face. Blago is as guilty as sin, along with the rest of them.
          But Illinois politics–what can I say? Pathetic situation.
          I have arrived at one conclusion–the “fix” was in, especially since November is coming up. Sure don’t want any Democrat to get in big trouble now.

  • http://gmail i41

    kinetic1, all blacks still support the muslim marxist moron, Colin Powell, news commentator who are black and all finacial gurus who now are whining about losing money in the stock markets still. Why because they are blacks, Onumnutts still has over 95% approval ratings. La Raza still gets million of dollars of taxpayers money to promote and support illegal crimminals, have heard any mexicans complain about their communist group, but of course blacks and mexicans are underclass in their own eyes, since they get in trouble for stealing, KKK is knocked by whites generally all over, but I think a white sharks would be a great organization to form for whites only, stainless steel guns and white roses as symbols. Main requirement of joining is barbaquing and bacon burgers, and employment, both hourly and self employment, no couch rats or street bums. We could here the hog squealing in every news room and mosque.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      i41,
      where in the holy hell did you get the idea that Nobama has an over 95% approval rating?!?!?!?!? he’s lucky if he’s at 40%!!!!

      • s c

        That sure has a fishy stench to it, Joe H. The only way I can see Herr Obummer having a 95% approval rating is if the numbers reflect the many dead voters in the Chicago area who somehow managed to vote for Herr Obummer. They are extremely loyal, and they can always be relied on to prove that an “objective,” scientific poll was conducted.

        • dan az

          SC
          no truer words be said!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          sc
          the only way I could see Nobama getting a 95% approval rating is if he was to announce he is going to step down!!!!

      • Michael J.

        Joe H.,
        I think i41 is refering to the fact that near 90% of the black community still support Obama regardless of current events. All blinded by everything aside from the color of Obama’s skin which by itself seems to constitute racism in the form of anti white protest.

        • Linda

          Comments about Obama being black are laughable, through he may identify himself as black – his is “NOT” he is bi-racial. And the only thing running through his veins is greed, “NOT” black blood, or white blood. It is time the African-Americans woke up to this fact. He no more has their interests at heart, than the interests of any other Americans. He has only his interests and that of radical Islam in his heart. And don’t tried using the race card on me, as I am too of mixed heritage.

  • HCKYPLYR

    It is comical to see the moronic views of the left on here. Truth be told. If my family was hungry and suffering, I would definitely pursue relocation but LEGALLY! These Mexican families show up all together at hospitals, doctor offices, clinics, etc… They know they won’t be turned down so they take advantage of our system and cost us BILLIONS of dollars every year. I work in a hospital setting and see it EVERYDAY! They do not pay a thing and more often than not, they are not sick! They try and get narcotic pain meds so they can sell them. Obviously not all of them are bad people but most are taking advantage of our idiocy! Obama should be drawn and quartered. He is a Muslim extremest that acts very well! I am so tired of hearing” that offends me”! TOO DAMN BAD! This is a country founded on Christian principles and we true Americans should fight to keep it that way! Do not trust the Muslims! They are snakes in disguise.

    • Michael J.

      HCKYPLYR,
      Thank you for the first hand insight into the attrocities being perpetrated by the hands of the illegals. I only wish more doctors, nurses and hospital staffers would enlighten us as well.
      As for Obama, he is more than just a good actor, he is a master at the art of “Taqiyya, lying for Islam”.

      • Linda

        I am not a hospital staffer, but when I went to the Nogales, AZ hospital I had to wait endlessly through the doctor thought I was having a heart attack, because the ER was filled with illegals and the parking lot was full on Sonoran, Mexico license plates. In addition, probably half or more of the people receiving welfare and food stamps in this county are illegal or actually live in Nogales, Sonora, Mexico. You heard them complain regularly in the grocery lines that the US won’t make the Mexico stores take their EBT cards. I was behind two women from Mexico, two week ago that where whining about that very thing. The one said “It makes me mad that the US won’t make the Mexico stores take my EBT card and I have to drive all the way over here to shop” then she said “So I decided to come to Rio Rico to shop and not shop in Nogales, so I could go to my friend’s house and check my mail for my kids WIC cards.” I then watched her load $350. in groceries into a brand new Mecedes SUV. I took down the license number, but the welfare department and the police both refused to even take a report.

  • http://gmail i41

    JoeH, that is the combined stats, the blacks still jammed up stupidity blocks them from understanding the muslim marxist is hosing the country. Combined stat are whites, asians, blacks, and latinos all are part of the combined percentage votes. Are you a union math college idoit. That is how in the holy hell the percentages stats were derived, got that. I look for Onumnutts stats to drop even lower.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      i41
      The last combined stat I saw said he was at a 48%, about half of your claim!!! Since he stated support of the Mosque at ground zero his approval rating has dropped even further!!!

  • chuck b

    hung jury what a laugh!! they should throw the fed prosecutor in jail along with the bought jury. this is nothing but a coverup for barry and emanual.

  • William L. Sasman

    I hope that Florida does come out against the illegals. All the states need to get on the band wagon and get the goverment back on track. Its hard to believe that some people want these types to get a free ticket. They don’t know the price that is paid on them from out local goverments. Also the crime they bring. The money most of them bring in is sent back to their homes. So our merchants don’t gain anything. Wake up americans.

  • mavis

    There should be no one here if they have not gotten
    permission to be here period. We don’t need them, they are a drain on our ecomomy,this day and time we only need those who are willing to follow the rules and are willing to learn English and become citizens in every way. We don’t need african americans,asian americans,hispanic americans or any other americans, all we need is just plain old americans who obey our laws and
    love our country no others NEED apply. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND LONG MAY SHE LIVE!!!!!!!!!!MRHPENSACOLA,FL

  • VETx3

    Has Obama sued Florida too yet?

  • David J. D’Addabbo Investigator for the people

    No more laws needed!!!!!!!! period!!!!! Any law made up by governments other than the 10 commandments of God’s laws, are 100% illegal to enforce upon the sovereign people of the United States PERIOD.

    To do so, is to go against the Constitutional laws that forbid governments from making such laws.

    More stringent immigration means “papers please!” and the word please is an oxymoron…. as it will SOON effect EVERYONE in the United States, bringing on the MARK… WHY

    Simple reason will show, that not just people who look like Mexicans or south Americans, or Muslims etc… will be asked for papers, but everyone will be asked for papers… It will progress within 1 year from all south American people must carry papers to EVERYONE must carry papers!!! Soon papers will be too much a burden to carry around, so why not a computer chip? easy and of course free to all those who WANT TO WORK, BUY AND LIVE IN AMERICAN SOCIETY! mandatory law!

    WAKE UP AMERICA!!! See the evil behind these kinds of laws. over 4,500 laws just on the Federal list alone already plague the people. You commit an average of 3 felonies a day without knowing it. So every day executives, to plumbers to bakers to farmers, can be arrested and forced to plead guilty to crimes they did not commit or go to jail for 30 years or more..

    Remember the prohibition on alcohol? 100% illegal… and only after 14 years later did the people place enough law suits against the governments did the repeal it… Why? because it simply was illegal for governments to control the peoples will to live how they wanted to live. the new but illegal prohibition laws did create the MAFIA and Millionaires were created over night in trafficking alcohol..

    Just as the Cartel and big governments are the only ones profiting on the so called war on drugs (war on the people), these new laws on immigration will create the last straw needed for global control over everyone.. including Caucasians, South Americans, middle easterners, Russians, Chinese, etc.. all will be forced to bear the MARK.

    From ID cards to papers, to mark… in 3 easy steps.

    From help save a poor pet, to arresting everyone that does not have open heart surgery to save a 90 year old dog…

    From freedom to not wear a seat belt, or to not buy insurance, to being placed in jail and being made a criminal.

    From being arrested on one of over 4,500 felony crimes that the feds and your local sheriff can place upon you at any time they feel you are going against the will of the governments!

    They do not need a judge or a jury, to make you a felon. All they need is a prosecutor and you end up being forced to plead to a crime you did not do, or go to jail for 30 years!! If you think this will not happen you are a FOOL!

    It happened to myself and thousands of other innocent Patriots who have been actively fighting in the trenches for freedoms the past 16 years… exposing governments organized crimes.

    Welcome to the Socialists Democracy corporations for profit types of governments… Welcome to the United States.

    If we did not have socialism, where we take wealth from one person and give it to another, we would not have to worry about immigration would we!!! As no one would gain anything unless they worked for it! We have immigration laws now. We do not need other laws, we need only to enforce the ones we now have…

    David J. D’Addabbo
    Investigator for the people.

  • http://www.hhrights.ca/wiki/GastonCountySchoolsStatsaeai Flamini

    We live in a canyon near the Mexico border and have for over a week now been hearing Arabic voices and the Arabic languages spoken by people traveling through our area on the same paths the Mexican illegals use. It is not just about Mexican, Central and South American people coming here illegally. I worked in Portland, Oregon near Portland State University as a teenage and through I don’t speak Arabic, I do know those languages when I heard them from my extensive exposure to the foreign students I dealt with daily in my job. The Middle Eastern cultures are moving through this area too. Do you really think they are sneaking in here with good will in their hearts?

    • http://naver sook young

      You sound like Linda who posted the same thing earlier. Thank you.

      Sook Young
      Wife of the Samurai

  • John

    It is time to round up illegals and muslims and ship them out. Like china removing the illegals during the mexican swine flu break out less than 2 days all the illegals wre out. We need to do the same to illegals and muslims.To save money and space in the prisons and get rid of undesirables…Soylet Green and make them animal food that animals we do not eat later.Embargo china and mexico.Bring back taxes on everything and place user fees on mexican things items.Tax all remittance going to mexico by transfer wire by bank ,money order,moneygrams,xoom,the state must collect 98% of every dollar going to mexico.charge heavy taxes on mexico,china, and others.

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