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Firearms Trade Group Carries Messages To Nation’s Capital

April 5, 2011 by  

Firearms trade group carries messages to nation's capitalA prominent trade association for the firearms industry will launch an educational advertising campaign this week to coincide with its annual "fly-in" event in Washington, DC.

The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), which was formed 50 years ago, has arranged meetings between business executives and Congressional leaders to address several issues threatening the firearms industry. The NSSF has a membership of more than 6,000 manufacturers, distributors, retailers, shooting ranges, sportsmen's organizations and publishers.

In addition, the group's advertising campaign will highlight the gun industry's influence on the economy. According to the NSSF, more than 183,500 jobs have been created by firearms and ammunition providers, which has an overall economic impact of $27.8 billion per year.

"The economic growth of America's firearms and ammunition industry continues to be a bright spot in our country's still ailing economy," said NSSF Senior Vice President and General Counsel Lawrence G. Keane. "Our ads will help remind America's lawmakers of this important fact."

During their "fly-in" sessions with legislators, executives will cover a variety of topics, such as maintaining the rights of sportsmen to use traditional ammunition and modernizing the United States' export control system to bolster national security.

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  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy 131

    It would be nice for this organization to form a committee that would travel around the country seeking public school systems that would allow them to put on a class in firearms, that would allow our children to handle and fire a rifle and pistol, after they’ve been taught firearms safety. This would be in conjunction with the parents attending such class prior to the students, and giving their permission for their child to participate in said class. This would help educate the public in the propper handling, maintence, usage, and storeage of weapons, creating a safer environment for the public in general, by having a more educated, informed, and experienced handlers of weapons. This would also promote their products. I would imagine that there would be many denials for permission to implement this idea, but I would bet there would be a few acceptals. With the successful completion of these classes by the few who do accept, the program could grow, with this record of success, to others that may then decide it could also benefit them. The organization would have to bear the complete financial responsibility for the program, but would be more financially beneficial to the organization then any advertisement they could ever employ.

    • Raggs

      I believe that there are many such classes, you can also take a child to a Game and Fish class in many states that teach the basics of firearm use and saftey although I don’t think that they use a range to teach proper gun use, such as loading / unloading / cleaning etc.

      • Brad

        Raggs,

        Years ago the Boy Scouts taught markmanship which encompussed all aspects of fire arm training and safety, as a badge earned towards their eagle scout. I have no idea if the scouts still offer said badge today?

        • Raggs

          Brad.. good question!.. That is something worth looking into.

      • spitfire

        Yes most use a range to show the students how to shoot and safely handle a firearm.

      • EddieW

        Hillary and Obozo are teaming up to enfore the UN’s sanctions against ALL Weapons!!! Taking away our right to bear arms, and ripping the Constitution apart, which Obozo is doing anyway, with the help of the Dept. of inJustice… They MUST take away our weapons to enslave us!! The Eugenics people want to reduce our population by 100 million…can’t do that with an armed populace!! Like Germany, Russia, Cambodia, Turkey, China, Guatemala and many other countries, first take their guns, then kill off the people they want to get rid of!! 53 Million to date!

    • voldemort

      Randy:
      The NRA has just such a program and has been very successful teaching the points you mention. If you want more information on this contact the NRA directly and they will help. I do like your talking points and agree.

      • 45caliber

        But don’t you know? Teaching children things like this might make them like guns! Further, it equips them with the necessary things to be murderers! Just ask any liberal…

        • http://gunner689 gunner689

          The NRA has the Eddie Eagle program that teaches children firearms saftey. I believe that this program is free and is offered to all schools. Unfortunately too many school’s administrations are liberal and follow the PC dictum. They’d rather have a few kids killed from mishandling firearms than allow these saftey cources. Another reason my grandchildren go to private schools.

    • jovianus

      “such as maintaining the rights of sportsmen to use traditional ammunition and modernizing the United States’ export control system to bolster national security”

      1. Didn’t know the “traditional ammunition” was under attack. Unless they’re speaking about cop killers (bullets able to penetrate vests). As for the second half of the sentence….nice way to say “promote internaitonal arms dealing and maintaining Merchant of Death status”.

      2. More red meat to toss to the crowds as the GOP diverts attention away from selling us out for the benefit of the wealthy and corporate interests (both foreign and domestic). I haven’t heard of any serious talk about gun control at the federal level for years…it’s a non-issue for Democrats. Yet the GOP and the wacked right want to keep saying the Dems and liberals will take away guns…again, not true and not even close to being true.

      • Raggs

        jovi-ANUS… how do you continue to make this stuff up?

        • jovianus

          Raggs..what’s made up? It’s all true as you are proving by being unable to point out anything not true (other than to claim with no substance it’s made up). Heck…we had a Congresswoman almost knocked off, and a fed Judge and several others were killed…and no outcry for gun control…not even taking the semi autos and having strict licensing for them.

          So there ya go. It’s a non issue, except for the paranoids who see bogiemen everywhere they look.

          • independant thinker

            Traditional ammunition has been under attack for years. There are efforts to ban ALL ammunition that contains lead under the unproven claim that the lead harms wild game.

            At least one and possibly more gun control bills have been introduced this year and others have been proposed but not introduced all by democrats.

          • jovianus

            There are alternatives to lead. That’s not exactly an ‘attack upon traditional ammunition”. It’s like saying taking the lead out of gasoline was an ‘attack upon traditional means of filling up your car”. Lead is not a good thing. Then again, it may put a few indoor target ranges out of business as they won’t have lead recycling monies to suppplement income from the users of such factilties.

            As for that bill… it went exactly how far? Bottled up and disappered in the deepest crevices of a subcommittee. C’mon…give me a break.

          • independant thinker

            How about giving us some practical alternatives to lead that will apply to ALL shootable firearms.

            Just because there are still a few senators who have enough common sense to bottle the bill up does not mean it is not a serious attempt to pass new gun control laws.

          • 45caliber

            jovi-anus:

            You evidently haven’t read the right papers. There are several calls by politicians to bann larger magazines, semi-autos, and so on since that shooting in AZ. Further, there are several bills in Washington right now to do things like bann gun shows (even though no illegal activities – other than those of the ATF – have shown up), prevent guns from being given as gifts to relatives, etc.

          • spitfire

            Joviianus,you are a frikken nut case, and should be locked away in a rubber room.

          • JC

            Jovi, how2 many days of the week do you manage to get out of the house with your underwear frontwards and matching socks?
            Just curious, cuz man you are a complete mess.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Independant,
            I guess jovi hasn’t heard about the small arms treaty that Hitlery is fighting tooth n nail to pass!! All it take is a few words in the right direction and we lose our rights! Also just recently there was an article about the ATF coming out against tactical shotguns!! with this all they have to do is list things that are considered “tactical” and if your gun has them, goodbye gun!!!
            I do wish jovi would go distribute his Bull$hit somewhere else, it’s getting way too deep here!!

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Any sort of gun regulations are unconstitutional per the Second Ammendment. The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

            Any regulations are an infringement and therefore unconstitutional.

            It is no dirt-bag busy body politician’s business who owns guns, how many or what kind.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            JC:

            Looks like we are back on the same page again.

            That one make me laugh. Between you and TIME I may get back into a more, ah, “congenial” mood today.

          • Dan az

            Jovi
            You must be the only one on this planet that knows what’s in the UN treaty.Please share with us!

        • Carlucci

          Jovi failed to point out that the Arizona shooter was allegedly an anti-social pothead, and also probably all screwed up on his legally prescribed psychotropic pharmaceuticals. Same thing with those nut jobs at Columbine. Why isn’t that info ever brought forward?

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            Carlucci:

            I assume that is a rhetorical question from such an astute woman, but the reason it’s not brought out is that the information simply does not fit their plan.

          • patty

            Carrlucci – It is not brought up because then that would mean that our all knowing gov’t. was not doing their job in enforcing the laws we already have on gun control and who can own a gun. Especially the PD there because the school had already put them on alert.

          • Carlucci

            Thanks, Old Henry. I’m always wondering about that. A huge percentage of people (and many are kids) take those awful “medications” and some go nuts and do all sorts of scary things like attempt suicide, and/or want to kill others, etc. I really think if people would refrain from taking that poison, a lot of crime simply wouldn’t happen.

          • JC

            Carlucci says:
            April 5, 2011 at 11:28 am
            Jovi failed to point out that the Arizona shooter was allegedly an anti-social pothead…

            Or that he had an Obama sticker on his car. We should ban Liberals.

          • Mike in MI

            Carlucci -
            They can’t “not take it” – if they want to stay in school, anyway. If the teacher decides they need it because they are a disruptive influence in class then BigPharma has worked it out that some government social worker/indoctrination babysitter has “the credentials” to start and maintain the kids on some of the most powerful, and least understood (in terms of adolescent usage), medical strength psychotropics on anybody’s list of mind benders/crunchers. Those drugs have different affects on different kids.
            I don’t know for sure but what if some of those teachers, in the WI Capitol strikes, told appropriate kids in their classes that they would with hold their “Happy Time” if they weren’t there to carry a sign or scream?
            Just a (possible?) consideration?
            Naw! Teachers, even if union members, wouldn’t do that!!! Their motives are all altruistic…right? I mean…look at what they focussed on…??????
            THAT”S WHAT THEY SHOULD BE TGEACHIN’ THE NEXT GENERATION ISN’T it? After all the next generation will be suppoting those teachers – gotta’ teach ‘em right… what a privilege!!!

          • JC

            Mike in MI says:
            April 5, 2011 at 11:26 pm
            Carlucci –
            They can’t “not take it” – if they want to stay in school, anyway. If the teacher decides they need it because they are a disruptive influence in class then BigPharma has worked it out
            ————————————————————-

            Not to mention “kickbacks” to the Teacher’s Union from Big Pharma.
            Follow the money….

      • Cawmun Cents

        reply to jovi anus:”promote internaitional arms dealing and Merchant of Death status.” 1.Watching Nick Cage movies are you? “its a non-issue for Democrats.” 2.Wow,then you would think that New York,Chicago,San Fransisco(run primarily by Democrats) would have more lax gun laws…..just sayin’.California just had a bill defeated which would require ID to purchase any ammunition.Hence the attack on traditional ammunition.Do some homework before you trip over your own stupidity please,save us all the headache of you opening your jovianus and crapping out your deformed quasi-logic.thank you for calling-CC

        • jovianus

          Before you go proving you are a fool (instead of people just thinking it) re-read what I wrote. At the federal level. States Rights and all that, you should be supporting that.

          • ValDM

            You might try a little more research before you spout. The feds are really busy at more than the national level : see Hillary’s U.N. promotion of the “small arms treaty”.

          • jovianus

            LOL…nice and paranoid eh ValDM? Give me a break. Jeesh….

            Tell everyone, how far and how much support does that treaty have in the Senate? A Dem controlled Senate. C’mon…how much support?

          • independant thinker

            To the best of my knowledge only Rand Paul has expressed a position on the treaty so we do not know how the senate as a whole feels about the treaty.

          • JIBBS

            I guess you have never heard of Dick Durbin or Mayor Daily, both dems ….and just look at the guns laws in Illinois. Look at who is proposing a lot of the laws they want to introduce, some gop, but mostly dems.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            i’m guessing Soetoro will sign it by Executive Order and by-pass the Senate much Bushy did in, I belived, March of 2005 when he signed a treaty with the Mexes and Canada to allow them to send troops into the U.S. to quell “civil disorder”.

            What’s to stop him? The Constitution?

          • independant thinker

            I bet everything jovianus knows about firearms he learned from Nick Cage, Clint Eastwood, and Sam Peckenpaw movies.

      • JeffH

        jovi…who’s actually paying you to say this stuff? No one, and I do mean no one, could be that ignorant unless it was intentional.

        “Didn’t know the “traditional ammunition” was under attack.”

        You might want to get educated, or not, before you smack those lips together.

        I’ll start with California…AB962 was just recently declared unconstitutionally vague on its face. It was to become effective Feb. 1, 2011. AB 962 was confusing to police, ammunition purchasers, and sellers about what ammunition is covered by the new laws created by AB 962.

        History Of Federal Ammunition Law . . .
        http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=55

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JeffH,
          ever seen what steel shhot does to a barrel?? I have and it isn’t pretty!! Beats the hell out of em!!

          • JeffH

            Joe H., I’ve shot a lot of steel shot through the years and I’ve yet to damage a barrel. I do shoot modern shotguns with barrels treated to specifically shoot steel shot. I would never shoot it through an old gun though. Also, you have to have the correct choke restrictions. Never shoot steel through any gun choked tighter than “modified”, which is the choke I use the most when waterfowling.

        • Kate8

          JeffH – Do you think they all sit around at computers in some SEIU office space, or do they work from home?

          I’m always amused by the way the trolls rotate. Every now and then someone new comes on, or they change their moniker, but they are pretty much the same posters, seems to me.

          I hear Soros pays pretty well.

          • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

            “I hear Soros pays pretty well”.
            He sure has / is paying Little Barry the jug-eared Kenyan well.

          • Christin

            Kate8,
            Old Henry,

            Their PAY may be high, but so is the PRICE.. the have sold their souls to the DEVIL… say hello to an eternity in hell lefties.

    • RWS

      I took hunter safety at the age of 10, which was the earliest they allowed it in my state. I was taught from a young age how to respect and handle a fire arm and you are right, it makes you comfortable around them because you know what you are doing. Most people who are affraid and intimidated by guns and want them banned have probably never even held one and the thought is scary to them. That is unfortunate becuase it seems they are just affraid of something they really don’t understand. I grew up in small town where hunting and fishing were pretty standard so I’m sure its quite different for most people.

  • Christin

    I am glad to hear that some gun organizations are getting involved in national politics as it pertains to anti-gun legislation and the 2nd Amendment… allowing ‘We The [American] People’ the Right to Bare Arms.

    ALL gun organizations and supporters of the 2nd Amendment (manufacturers, ditributors, retailers, shooting ranges, sportsmen’s organizations, and publishers… including American People) should ban together to become a STRONG voice for ‘We the People’ and the Rights as stated in the Second Amendment MORE often, less we allow tyranny from an unjust government to overtake us.

    I did not like it when I heard the the NRA made a deal with Congress without the consideration of Americans and ALL the other gun organization entities.

    And yes, Randy 131, people should be taught firearm use and safety… an educated and informed society is better than an afraid people who just ban guns because they are ignorant and fearful or are following the Progressive way to unarm Americans to bring about tyranny…

    “Gun laws and regulations” are for the law abiding people to limit, tax, and take away their Rights and Freedom… the criminal elements in our society will find a gun underground or on the black market and use it unlawfully no matter what the laws are.

    • jovianus

      Please read the 2nd. It does not ‘give’ the Right to own personal weapons. We have that right and the 2nd details why we have that right. And it’s not so some freak can raise low testosterone levels and overcome their gay tendencies in order to establish their manhood.

      Now, the right to own firearms for other reason than those mentionjed in the 2nd may well indeed be in the Bill of Rights, but not in the 2nd. (and I am not anti gun).

      The 2nd does not give anyone the right to pack around a dangerous weapon in public. Nowehre in the Constitution does it state I have to be in danger because some nutcase wants to pack a gun in public menacing and creating a dangerous situation. In your home, not a problem…as i stated, I believe that is protected elsewhere other than the 2nd. But to endanger the public? Nope…can’t find it anywhere.

      • JIBBS

        LOL, you are lost in space, you say nothing at all, while talking so much. I truly think you are on the wrong blog.

      • Raggs

        jovi-ANUS.. the second gives us the RIGHT to keep and bare arms..
        What is it you do not understand?

        • jovianus

          Raggs. What is it you don’t understand? Everyone wants strict constructionism of the Constitution. OK…there you are. It refers to militia. OK? Quit reading stuff in that’s not there. As to personal ownership for “protection” etc.., that maybe found..maybe..in another section, but certainly not the 2nd.

          And nowhere does it state a manhood can be inflated by packing in public creating fear and apprehension in others.

          • Raggs

            The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, along with the rest of the Bill of Rights.

            In 2008 and 2010, the Supreme Court issued two Second Amendment decisions. In District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia[1][2] and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. Additionally, the Court enumerated several longstanding prohibitions and restrictions on firearms possession that it found were consistent with the Second Amendment.[3] In McDonald v. Chicago (2010), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment limits State and local governments to the same extent that it limits the federal government.[4]

          • ValDM

            juvenile,
            What do you know about guns? Apparently not much. You claim that those of us that keep guns and use them are trying to establish some tough guy attitude, or to keep up the appearance of tough guy (your ‘gay’ comment, along with the testosterone comment). What a maroon!!! LOL. I’m not a man, and I’ve owned guns for almost 30 years.Get a brain.

          • independant thinker

            jovianus do you even have a clue as to who the militia is?

          • patty

            Jovianus-I pack heat and I am a female. Like you liberals love to put it. “It is to level the playing field”. I might not be strong enough to physically defend myself against an attacker, but being able to conceal and carry helps when you work downtown.

          • independant thinker

            jovianus since you apparently have no clue as to who the militia are lets just look at the whole of the second amendment.

            “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

            “well regulated” at the time the constitution was written well regulated in this application meant to be well armed with functional weapons suitable for the common defence.

            “militia” This at the time the constitution was written ment all males between 16 and 45 years of age who were not in the armed forces or police (so defined in other articles). Since the equal rights amendment the age and sex limits would no longer apply.

            “the right of the people to keep and bear arms” In other words the individual citizens (people) have toe right to posess and carry their personaly owned firearms which also happens to be what they are expected to show up with if called to duty in the militia.

            “shall not be infringed” pretty well self explanitory.

        • JC

          jovianus says:
          April 5, 2011 at 9:16 am
          Raggs. What is it you don’t understand? Everyone wants strict constructionism of the Constitution. OK…there you are. It refers to militia. OK? Quit reading stuff in that’s not there. As to personal ownership for “protection” etc.., that maybe found..maybe..in another section, but certainly not the 2nd.

          Ignorant and malevolent to the point of being a psychopath.
          A perpetuator of lies and nothing but lies. A twisted freak.

          Or in short…a “Liberal”

          • http://?? Joe H.

            jc,
            Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe jovi is one of those that want to break into your house and rob you but is scared to because you might have a gun?? He can’t roll anyone either cause that person might be LEGALLY carrying. Now mind you, I’m not sayin he is, as I wouldn’t want his superman lawyer to sue me, but could it be??? LOL!!

          • JC

            Joe, this sick little freak obviously has an ulterior motive of some kind…either that or he was a Ritalin baby born to alcoholic parents. ;)

          • Raggs

            I cannot find myself paying much attention to an ANUS.

          • JeffH

            JC, JoeH and Raggs…just like the POTUS, jovi is an Alinskyite.

          • JC

            I hear ya Jeff,
            But I prefer the term IMPOTUS for the kenyan. ;)

      • Cawmun Cents

        There is also nothing in the 2nd that says you cannot pack around a firearm,is there?when I was 12 yrs. old my 10 yr. old brother and I would shoulder our shotguns(12. and 20.ga. respestively)and ride our bikes to go pheasant hunting in rural upstate California.We would nearly always encounter the local law enforcement,who upon examining our pilgramage to the hunting site,would gleefully cheer us on.There was no paranoia by townsfolk,as we often rode through the city streets to get to the country roads.No one getting on their phone and hollering that dangerous thugs riding bicycles were loose in the town.We were children packing firearms as Jovi anus would exclaim.But we had no ill intent,and no adult supervision other than the local deputies to give us encouragement.We did these things with pride in our American heritage,and never batted an eye at anyone carrying a firearm.Of course isolated incidents have occured since then that media coverage have caused concern over.But these are so very few and far between,that only a complete moron would associate them with the ability to carry arms.This is the issue today….lack of understanding and media coverage that paints false pictures of firearms,versus your right to bare arms whenever you so choose.

      • 45caliber

        jovi-anus:

        It doesn’t say we have the right to carry a gun anywhere in the Constitution, huh? Apparently you don’t understand the word “bear”.

        It means “to carry”. So yes, I have the right to carry a gun even if you do feel it is wrong.

        • JC

          Further to that:

          The RIGHT of the PEOPLE to KEEP and BEAR ARMS shall NOT BE INFRINGED.
          Period!

      • spitfire

        LIke I said, you are a nutcase and should be locked up.

      • http://Illinois'17th Old Henry

        “I have to be in danger because some nutcase wants to pack a gun in public menacing and creating a dangerous situation”.
        They already are Jovi. They are criminals and the gang-bangers and drug dealers.

        Law abiding citizens carrying weapons simply makes them safe from the scum that looks to do others harm.

        The problem is that we do not sufficiently punish the criminals. When I say sufficiently I mean execute them. Preferably by hangning or firing squad. Istead we give them 3 squares a day, weight rooms, TV, etc. at OUR expense.

    • independant thinker

      “I did not like it when I heard the the NRA made a deal with Congress”

      What deal would that be?

      • Christin

        independant,

        The NRA told the 111th Demo-lead Congress that they should not include a gun organization that has a million supporters in their anti-gun legislation… so thusly, that left the rest of the smaller pro-gun organizations ‘hanging in the lurch’ to be restained by Congress’s anti-gun legislation.

        • JeffH

          Christin, that’s exactly how the leftist controlled media portrayed it and what the anti’s want you to believe…create division amongst the pro gun ranks, also known as “divide and conquer”.

          Sometimes it’s necessassary to step back and look at the bigger picture and not let your emotions overpower common sense which, by the wat, is a liberal trait.

          • Christin

            Jeff H,
            That is what I read from an e-mail from another smaller gun organization and heard on FOX news… I promise you my emotions do not runneth away from me like a pitiful leftist moron. Divide and Conquer are definately a leftist trait, but I am telling you what I learned and maybe you both are telling me no that is not what really happened. Now you stand back and look at the big picture… I am on the RIGHT side.

  • Ray

    Guess none of you read the PLEA by Rand Paul to sign the Official Firearms Sovereignty Survey concerning the “UN’s small Arms Treaty” that is being endorsed by “hillary Clinton” and the Obama administration!!
    the UN’s Small Arms Treaty is designed to REGISTER, BAN and CONFISCATE firearms owned by private citizens like you.

    This came out of yesterdays personal liberty alert

    • Raggs

      Yup that has been going on for over a year now.
      And just think if king obaba gets to keeps his crown.

      • independant thinker

        We have to do all we can to insure the Senate (which must ratify the treaty for it to apply to the US) ia strongly pro gun.

        • Raggs

          Your right, however can we expect obama to bypass congress on this issue as he does most everything else?

    • Mick

      Ray says:
      April 5, 2011 at 8:56 am
      Guess none of you read the PLEA by Rand Paul to sign the Official Firearms Sovereignty Survey concerning the “UN’s small Arms Treaty” that is being endorsed by “hillary Clinton” and the Obama administration!!
      the UN’s Small Arms Treaty is designed to REGISTER, BAN and CONFISCATE firearms owned by private citizens like you.

      This came out of yesterdays personal liberty alert
      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
      Ray,,,,It came out before that and anyone incapable to see what the democrats are out to do is dumber than a ton of bricks,,
      They have been after people’s right to bear arm for years and years, they are being very careful and threading slowly on this issue and are using as usual the manipulative tactics they use on a daily basis not to incite the citizens too early, they figure they will have enough time to control the population once all the little laws they pass will soon come together and form the ultimate law they have been bucking for to disarm the American citizen..Can you say total government control and good bye Liberty,,,,,,,

      • Raggs

        Yeah any little “CRISIS” they fabricate to control us.

    • liberty4me

      The intent of our founding forefathers was to PRESERVE the FREEDOM of the PEOPLE (individuals). So, does it not follow that their intent was for the people to have the means by which to prevent their government from taking that freedom from them?

      With these thoughts in mind, the reason for the right to bear arms was not to preserve your right to go hunting or target shooting. Rather, it was to maintain the concept of government BY THE PEOPLE. The people MUST have the means to form a militia and say CHANGE YOUR WAYS to their government. Otherwise the PEOPLE are not FREE.

      • .50BMG

        Seems to me there are several fundamental key issues here that bear repeating-(JiovANUS!)–

        YOU are paranoid! YOU have been programmed by our liberal society to believe that anyone with a gun and no badge is a criminal. I will not stand by and lose my right to self defense because some stupid liberals think THEY don’t want or will never need to defend themselves (then don’t buy a gun!). Saying the cops can be there for you every time is an astoundingly stupid statement. I don’t wish this on your daughter, but it would serve you right to watch your daughter get raped and killed in front of your face while you wait for help -assuming you can call for help at all.

        The reason arming the populace in general works so well is that, unlike what your paranoia tells you, the VAST majority of people are good people and would probably risk their lives to save your sorry, defenseless ass. If you actually use logic and can the BS, it is obvious that when a Jared Loughner happens, that the other 99 good, honest, ARMED people at the event would put an immediate stop to the carnage. A good reference documenting what I say would be “More Guns, Less Crime” by John Lott. Read it, then you will actually KNOW something.

        Parting note- I resent being portrayed as someone looking to feel “tough” by carrying guns. I would be happy to show you the meaning of the word “tough” without using any guns- I don’t need a stinkin’ gun for idiots like you, since I already know you won’t have one (remember, you won’t ever need one). Feel free to advertise your helplessness- where did you say you live?

        • JC

          F’n A Right!

      • Christin

        Well said, liberty4me and .50BGM!

  • Lealand Sherman

    The power of the vote can be very well used to get the results you want, so step up and take care of business.

  • http://com i41

    Any time one of the feel good liberial progressives start the b–l s–t of large magazines and too many rounds, I always ask the freaks what the hell do they want the V6 or V8 motors for. A 3 hp power Briggs and Stratton could power their plastic match box buggies. The answer is always either I want power if I need it or because I want it, then tell the democrap that is why I want 15 shot clips or 30 shot magazines. There may be a need to knock off a bunch of illegal pukes or muslims trying to remove my head. Onumnutts and Hillary have been pushing this UN crap since they have been in power. jovanus has too be one simple minded jackass at best or has never been weaned off of his sugar tit!

  • Bert Cundle

    Some know how, to kill… “SOME KNOW WHEN, TO KILL.

  • David

    . . . and so the terrorists wait . . .

    They are patient and they know exactly what they are doing manipulating the administration to take it slow.

    The Japanese never attacked the West Coast of the United States because they knew we had the right to “keep and bear arms” and they wouldn’t stand a chance. If anything happens to weaken that right, what do you think would happen today? These whack-jobs in the Middle East have been waiting a very long time for the opportunity and they will wait however long it takes for us to have no defense. They’re already infilterating Mexico in preparation. Anyone who doesn’t believe this hasn’t been paying attention since grade school. I’m glad I live in Arizona and I’m glad our governor has enough balls to stand up for what’s right for the safety of our entire country. (The boycotts actually crack me up!)

    • 45caliber

      I saw a report a year or two ago that said there were over 200 known terrorist training centers in Mexico – and that did NOT include those run by Al-Qida. One of the main things they are teaching their people is how to pretend to be a Mexican.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45caliber,
        It was on the news today that some senator was trying to get the government to label the cartels as terrorists. Fox dod a survey on it and 94% of the respondants said it was a good idea!! If it means they would go after them and wipe them off the face of the map, I’d be all for it!!

      • Christin

        There are 35 Muslim Training Camps in America… all known to the police in each state and the gov’t.

  • JeffH

    For those that are unfamiliar with the NSSF, here is some info and a link to their website.
    http://nssf.org/industry/aboutNSSF.cfm

    In 1963, the Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers’ Institute (SAAMI) merged its promotional arm into the NSSF enabling the foundation to significantly expand its efforts and establish its own headquarters in Riverside, Conn.

    Recognizing the growing urbanization of America, NSSF’s first efforts sought to build public awareness of the sportsman’s role in conservation, and the contributions of our system of wildlife management through landmark efforts such as the annual National Hunting and Fishing Day, established in 1973.

    Since its inception, NSSF has been a leader in building opportunities for the next generation to enjoy hunting and the shooting sports. NSSF has long been a major supporter of the nation’s youth shooting programs as well as creating its own programs such as the Scholastic Clay Target Program and similar efforts at the collegiate level.

    Firearms safety education has also been a fundamental mission of NSSF throughout its history. Over the decades, the foundation has distributed many millions of safety brochures, and delivered our safety messages on television, radio and in print. Initiated in 1999, NSSF’s Project ChildSafe has now distributed more than 35 million firearm safety kits in all 50 states.

    In its modern era, the NSSF has become actively engaged in representing our members in respect to key legal, regulatory and legislative issues through its Government Affairs division.

    • liberty4me

      I repeat:

      The intent of our founding forefathers was to PRESERVE the FREEDOM of the PEOPLE (individuals). So, does it not follow that their intent was for the people to have the means by which to prevent their government from taking that freedom from them?

      With these thoughts in mind, the reason for the right to bear arms was not to preserve your right to go hunting or target shooting. Rather, it was to maintain the concept of government BY THE PEOPLE. The people MUST have the means to form a militia and say CHANGE YOUR WAYS to their government. Otherwise the PEOPLE are not FREE.
      The intent of our founding forefathers was to PRESERVE the FREEDOM of the PEOPLE (individuals). So, does it not follow that their intent was for the people to have the means by which to prevent their government from taking that freedom from them?

      With these thoughts in mind, the reason for the right to bear arms was not to preserve your right to go hunting or target shooting. Rather, it was to maintain the concept of government BY THE PEOPLE. The people MUST have the means to form a militia and say CHANGE YOUR WAYS to their government. Otherwise the PEOPLE are not FREE.
      The intent of our founding forefathers was to PRESERVE the FREEDOM of the PEOPLE (individuals). So, does it not follow that their intent was for the people to have the means by which to prevent their government from taking that freedom from them?

      With these thoughts in mind, the reason for the right to bear arms was not to preserve your right to go hunting or target shooting. Rather, it was to maintain the concept of government BY THE PEOPLE. The people MUST have the means to form a militia and say CHANGE YOUR WAYS to their government. Otherwise the PEOPLE are not FREE.
      The intent of our founding forefathers was to PRESERVE the FREEDOM of the PEOPLE (individuals). So, does it not follow that their intent was for the people to have the means by which to prevent their government from taking that freedom from them?

      With these thoughts in mind, the reason for the right to bear arms was not to preserve your right to go hunting or target shooting. Rather, it was to maintain the concept of government BY THE PEOPLE. The people MUST have the means to form a militia and say CHANGE YOUR WAYS to their government. Otherwise the PEOPLE are not FREE.

  • liberty4me

    Sory – meant to repeat once.

    • JeffH

      I think you should apologize repeatedly. I disagree wholeheartedly with you that the intent was solely for the purpose of a “well regulated militia”. Hunting was a necessity to get meat(protein)
      and yes, they even had shooting matches back in those times.

      The original intent and purpose of the Second Amendment was to preserve and guarantee, not grant, the pre-existing right of individuals to keep and bear arms. Although the amendment emphasizes the need for a militia, membership in any militia, let alone a well-regulated one, was not intended to serve as a prerequisite for exercising the right to keep arms.

      The Second Amendment preserves and guarantees an individual right for a collective purpose. That does not transform the right into a “collective right.” The militia clause was a declaration of purpose, and preserving the people’s right to keep and bear arms was the method the framers chose to, in-part, ensure the continuation of a well-regulated militia.

      • JeffH

        …just kidding on the apologies…

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        I am a Militia of one; armed, trained, experienced, willing, and ready.

        Semper Fie

      • independant thinker

        ” membership in any militia, let alone a well-regulated one, was not intended to serve as a prerequisite for exercising the right to keep arms.”

        In a way membership in a militia did serve as a prequisite for owning a firearm because all men were in the militia and you were expected to have a firearm in good working order if called to duty. Looking at it this way means All should have at least one firearm suitable for defence of city, county, state, and/or country.

        • JC

          Good point. I don’t know if they still do, but Switzerland once required every household to have firearms. There’s a reason for that.

          • independant thinker

            It does still apply but what is required is they keep their duty small arms when discharged from the military and are required to stay current with it as far as shooting practice is concerned. While that is not an actual requirement that all households have a firearm for practical purposes 99% or so would have one and many of them would be those “evil wicked true assualt rifles”.

    • usmadgirl

      liberty4me,

      Couldn’t have said it better myself any of the 4 or 5 times!LOL About the “REPEAT”: happened to me writing JoeH awhile back. It had about 3 copies of my comment in one response! Don’t know WHAT happened???

      I also had a long comment last week that just went into a black hole. I tried to send it again & it said it was a “repeat” & wouldn’t let me. I had a link for information on it & worked long to research & write it to have it disappear! Oh well! It wasn’t anything that would’ve been removed for any reason.

  • .50BMG

    Seems to me there are several fundamental key issues here that bear repeating-(JiovANUS!)–

    YOU are paranoid! YOU have been programmed by our liberal society to believe that anyone with a gun and no badge is a criminal. I will not stand by and lose my right to self defense because some stupid liberals think THEY don’t want or will never need to defend themselves (then don’t buy a gun!). Saying the cops can be there for you every time is an astoundingly stupid statement. I don’t wish this on your daughter, but it would serve you right to watch your daughter get raped and killed in front of your face while you wait for help -assuming you can call for help at all.

    The reason arming the populace in general works so well is that, unlike what your paranoia tells you, the VAST majority of people are good people and would probably risk their lives to save your sorry, defenseless ass. If you actually use logic and can the BS, it is obvious that when a Jared Loughner happens, that the other 99 good, honest, ARMED people at the event would put an immediate stop to the carnage. A good reference documenting what I say would be “More Guns, Less Crime” by John Lott. Read it, then you will actually KNOW something.

    Parting note- I resent being portrayed as someone looking to feel “tough” by carrying guns. I would be happy to show you the meaning of the word “tough” without using any guns- I don’t need a stinkin’ gun for idiots like you, since I already know you won’t have one (remember, you won’t ever need one). Feel free to advertise your helplessness- where did you say you live?

  • JC

    In true fashion, the Leftist Government of the Kenyan in Chief once again attempts to demonize American Patriots who exercise their Constitutional right to keep and bear arms…
    Read on…

    In the past few weeks, Aaron Dorr of Iowa Gun Owners became aware of the fact that the Emergency Management Agency was planning to hold a terrorism response drill at a local school in Iowa.

    In this scenario, two “terrorists” went into this school and shot or killed close to two dozen people according to the planning documents.

    While I empathize with the job of Iowa’s peace officers and am happy they are training to protect the their bosses (taxpayers), there was a major problem with this scenario:

    The shooter could have been you or me.

    That’s right; the description given of the shooter was of a white male who came from a family of firearms enthusiasts, and who was concerned about illegal immigration!

    In a blatant attempt to demonize law-abiding citizens who own and use firearms for self-defense, the organizers of this event described what is likely the majority of the members of the National Association for Gun Rights.

    Iowa Gun Owners asked its members to contact the County Supervisors via email or phone and voice their concerns.

    The result: the event was cancelled due to a huge public outcry!

    Now, of course the Emergency Management Agency coordinator says that county officials were receiving threats and that’s why they cancelled the event.
    Worse still, the coordinator, Jeff Theulen, said that the true patriots are those government bureaucrats who received all the pressure that you applied.

    Some people never learn.

    Mr. Theulen’s office puts forth a scenario where a person who supports and believes in the Constitutionally protected rights of the Second Amendment is portrayed as a mass-murdering terrorist in what appears to be an attempt to further undermine our freedoms and yet Theulen thinks that he and his colleagues are the real patriots! Incredible.

    Unfortunately, people like Mr. Theulen are just tools of a higher authority.

    So, while the great people of Iowa are taking him to task, I need you to address this problem at a higher authority. He takes his marching orders from the Department of Homeland Security, and that’s where my concern lies.
    This is a lot bigger than just Iowa.

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