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Federal Judge Slain In Arizona Massacre

January 12, 2011 by  

Federal judge slain in Arizona massacreJohn M. Roll, the chief judge of Arizona's Federal court, was one of six individuals killed at a Tucson shopping center on Jan. 8.

Roll, 63, was appointed to the United States District Court by former President George H.W. Bush in 1991. According to FOX News, Roll's book on criminal trial procedures is considered the authoritative resource for other judges who preside over similar cases.

On CBS' Face the Nation on Jan. 9, Senator Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) said he recently had lunch with Roll and was planning to meet with him again this week.

"Judge Roll's loss is going to be particularly important for the Arizona judiciary," Kyl told the news provider. "We have one of the top three districts in terms of caseloads, and it took a lot of his time to try to meet the responsibilities of the court especially with all of the drug and immigration cases."

According to The Huffington Post, Roll handled several high-profile trials. In the 1990s, he was among several judges who ruled that the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, which instituted Federal background checks on individuals purchasing firearms, was unconstitutional.

In 2009, Roll and his wife enlisted U.S. Marshals Service Protection following his controversial decision that allowed a civil-rights lawsuit — filed by illegal immigrants against a local rancher — to proceed. According to the news provider, Roll received threats against his life following the ruling.

Roll is survived by his wife, three sons and five grandchildren.

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  • billb

    if they ever get to the bottom of this incident and actually find the real perpetrator i think the trail will lead right back to the oblie machine

    the congress woman was not a oblie roll over so she was dispenseable

    the judge was not fitting on oblies agenda with his past case history so he was dispenseable

    the liberals just cant fathom that it was one of their own creations that did the killing they should be proud of their prodical son — the sad part is there are more radical liberals out there doing hate crimes all the time and hiding behind the state run media as just poor underpivileged citizens.

    • eddie47d

      I see you and Patrick are putting you swill in print. How brave of you. Judge Roll was actually threatened by anti-immigration folks(that’s You). He received more than 200 death threats for defending these illegals. Any kind of death threats are uncalled for and even from that Jared fellow. Judge Roll did receive protection from the US Marshall Service in 2009 and part of 2010. He was a moderate Conservative who deserves respect and prayers from all.

      • JohnK

        What makes you say that he was defending them? He is a judge and as such should not allow himself to defend either side but to balance the evidence. To allow a case to go forth does not mean that he defended either side.

        • REJ

          How is it that illegals have any right to anything. Go back home and do it legal. Then when you are in this country LEGALLY, you can have the same rights as LEGAL Americans do. This Judge had no grounds to let this case go forward period. This countries thinking is pathetic.

          • THOMAS STEWART

            Right-On REJ Right Question In Any State Except Arizona, Yikess, Where The George Soros Empire And The ACLU Anti-American Goons File Law Suits Daily Against The Best Sheriff Joe, Yippee, Give Sheriff Joe The Top Security Job And The Man Power, These Nut Cases Solved. God Bless America & LT Col Lakin & Sarah Palin POTUS.

          • Pathfinder

            REJ : Please, note that rights are confired by God and NOT by virtue of citizenship. All men are created equal and are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable (inalienable ?) rights. Of course we could discuss this more intelligently IF we had the particulars of the case, which, thru my own fault, I have not yet looked up. However, while many on our side (I too oppose these invaders. They are NOT immigrants but invaders.) threatened thee judge; it was a left wing loony who committed the violent act.

            At present, it is only speculation on my part (no evidence yet); but I strongly suspect that this was a deliberate attempt, to assassinate a conservative judge, who had already made ruleings unfavorable to the Obama agenda and who was schedualed to hear more cases of importance to the white house.

          • Patsy

            Totally agree!

          • Patsy

            I totally agree with REJ. I see I needed to be more specific.

      • Coyote

        Top US Federal Judge Assassinated After Threat To Obama Agenda
        A Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that the top US Federal Judge for the State of Arizona was assassinated barely 72-hours after he made a critical ruling against the Obama administrations plan to begin the confiscation of their citizen’s private retirement and banking accounts in order to stave off their nations imminent economic collapse, and after having the US Marshals protecting him removed.

        According to this SVR report, Federal Judge John McCarthy Roll [photo 2nd left] was the Chief Judge for the United States District Court for the District of Arizona who this past Friday issued what is called a “preliminary ruling” in a case titled “United States of America v. $333,520.00 in United States Currency et al” [Case Number: 4:2010cv00703 Filed: November 30, 2010] wherein he stated he was preparing to rule against Obama’s power to seize American citizens money without clear and convincing evidence of a crime being committed.

        The case being ruled on by Judge Roll, this report continues, was about bulk cash smuggling into or out of the United States that the Obama administration claimed was their right to seize under what are called Presidential Executive Orders, instead of using existing laws. The Obama administration used as support for their claim before Judge Roll, the SVR says, the seizing of all American citizens’ gold, in 1933, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s signing of Executive Order 6102, which was ruled at the time to be constitutional.

        Should the Obama administration win their argument to seize their citizen’s money by Executive Order without having to abide by the law was made more chilling this past week when reports emerged from the US stating that President Obama and his regime allies were, indeed, preparing to rule America by decree since their loss this past November of their control over the US House of Representatives, and in the words of the Washington Posts columnist Charles Krauthammer: “For an Obama bureaucrat … the will of the Congress is a mere speed bump.”

        Since taking office in early 2009, Obama has completely overturned the once free United States through his use of Executive Orders that asserts his power to put anyone he wants in prison without charges or trial forever and his right to assassinate any American citizen he deems a threat.

        The most chilling of these powers Obama has asserted for himself, however, are contained in Executive Order 13528 he signed nearly a year ago (January 10, 2010) creating a Council of Governors he has hand-picked to rule over the United States in place of its elected representatives when their next “disaster” strikes and orders them to begin “synchronization and integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States; and other matters of mutual interest pertaining to National Guard, homeland defense, and civil support activities.”
        http:// www. whatdoesitmean.com/index1438.htm <– link to article coomplete article

        here is the link for the case
        http://dockets.justia.com/docket/arizona/azdce/2:2010cv02773/575272/

        • Pathfinder

          Coyote, thank you for this information. I will go to the site which you have posted and read this article in full. Again, my thanks and best wishes.

    • kate8

      billb – Perhaps you missed this one yesterday.

      http://www.eutimes.net/2011/01/top-us-federal-judge-assassinated-after-threat-to-obama-agenda/

      Watch the new Congress get an attitude adjustment.

      Amazing how these things always happen right when the PTB are in need of a good crisis to override the opposition. Obama will never allow the people’s voice to be heard.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear billb and others,

      Don’t be so quick to believe you know the motive behind the shooting. It more than likely has nothing at all to do with politics and is something that has plagued mankind since the beginning: Love and rejection.

      I’m seeing reports that the alleged shooter may have been obsessed with the Congresswoman and upset at her that she treated him in a way that insulted him in 2007. Reports are that a constituent letter from Giffords to Loughner was found in a safe at Loughner’s home with the words “Die Cops” and “Die Bitch” scrawled on it.

      There is also the curious fact that Gifford’s YouTube channel was subscribed to two people’s YouTube channels, Loughner’s and another member of Congress’… evidence that Giffords and Loughner had some type of connection in the past. (By the way, that YouTube connection was scrubbed almost immediately after the shooting)

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • libertytrain

        Can’t help but wonder if the Congresswoman’s staff were keeping him in the “cross-hairs” just to keep an eye on his previous lunacy towards her.

  • patrick

    Why are the truthfull words NOT being written and printed? I mean it should be expressed that the reason for this deprived man to go on his killing spree was a result of what is happening to the great USA. Obammy boy and his crew of crooked czars are driving our country into the ground by eliminating our Constitution, promoting Muslims and terrorists, advocation shariah law to be the law of our land etc etc. Don’t you all think and or see why so many people are so frustrated? We all sit here day after day watching Obammy boy drive our country into the toilet and not one politican has the balls to stand up to him and his czars, and where are the Patriotic American citizen that are willing to fight for our Constitutional rights? Silent majority…. wake up get off your asses and fight!!!

    • kate8

      patrick – This incident was meant as a wake-up call to anyone opposing Obama/Reid/Pelosi.

      Everyone is lapping up the “official” report of a crazed, lone gunman. Isn’t anyone struck by the stunning similarity between this kid and those who’ve gone before?

      This kid has been damaged, and is as much a victim as everyone involved. It sickens me what has been done to our youth. That kid has the vacant, soulless look of someone who has been severely traumatised. What a heartbreaking waste of so many lives, all for an evil, monstrous agenda.

    • Al

      Patrick: Your sentiments and mine are the same. Yesterday I went to pick up my prescriptions at a CVS Drugstore and 8 Muslim women were in the store. More Muslims than average Americans. I am seeing more and more Muslims lately. They are not planning on adapting to American culture but are hell bent on bringing on Sharia Law for us.I firmly believe we have a Foreign (Ineligible) Dictator President. Much of what Obama is doing is exactly what Castro did to Cuba. There was a picture taken of Obama, Chavez,and Ahmajehad and they were all grinning and happy as larks. Obama was in his element; not America.If THIS CONGRESS doesn’t stop this Dictator soon America will be a Nation gone Under. Sad but TRUE.

  • Shane P.

    Look Up, for your redemption draweth nie.

  • stilldazed

    Why is it that conspiracy nuts on both sides of the political spectrum come out every time there is a tragedy? Can’t anyone accept that there are unstable idiots in this country and the main concern should be for the family and friends of the victims? It is the responsibility of the courts to assign blame, according to the constitution. Chill out, hold your peace and man up.

    • kate8

      Yes, stilldazed. Let’s just all go back to sleep now. Nothing to see here, folks.

      • eddie47d

        Kate 8 always has it figured out and immediately goes for the conspiracy theory no matter what. She demonizes everyone and then waits for the other shoe to drop. We could all throw darts better than that.

        • kate8

          eddie – Did no one notice how, within minutes of the incident, the Left-wing machine immediately began parroting the same exact thing? That would be blaming Right-wing everybody? Gee, it’s almost like they had it all planned out.

          Even the Sheriff, who is supposed to be more level-headed and uphold the law, came off like every other Leftist insider.

          You are right, eddie. I believe there is more to all of these types of incidents than meets the eye. They are far too convenient, too pat, and made to order when the libs in Congress are trying to shove through unpopular and, might I add unConstitutional, legislation.

          Why should we all have to sacrifice our liberties because a person here and there gets whacked out? It makes no sense, except that certain factions need it to further an agenda they couldn’t accomplish otherwise.

          I’m not so trusting of those in control, eddie. Not like you.

          • kate8

            If we are all more afraid of how we will be perceived for questioning the status quo, for looking more deeply into what we see playing out before our eyes, and at how it always paves the way for greater government takeover…than we are of standing up and demanding that the truth be told and that our concerns be addressed…then we are lost for sure.

            We must quesion with boldness. We must be willing to ask the tough questions, and be willing to hear disheartening answers. We can’t just sit in front of our TVs and lap up the mind-numbing propaganda any longer. We don’t have time. And if we aren’t willing to risk being called a ‘conspiracy theorist’, to be ridiculed and derided for standing up for what we perceive and think possible…even risk being wrong…then we aren’t worthy of our heritage, and our children will never know freedom.

            If posters like eddie thinks he can back me down by holding me up to ridicule, then he is wrong. I’ve come up against worse than that. And I’ve come too far to be stung by small minds. I, for one, have had enough of being ‘socially engineered’ and ‘nudged’ and betrayed.

            We should never stop delving until we have the complete truth. Sometimes that means going down deadend roads. But eventually it becomes apparent, and when it does, we will know what to do.

          • eddie47d

            You are correct on many aspects but I’ve listen to this kind of talk from the left back in the 60′s. They hated government,everyone was spying on them,the police were everywhere,their rights were being trampled on,They were called filthy names by those who opposed them,they were righteous and Johnson and Nixon were evil,the news media didn’t give them enough coverage,the war back then was despicable and everyone was a war monger,there was no justice and our whole system was corrupt. Everything they said was true back then and from their left point of view. Fast forward to the present and you are saying the exact same thing from a more right wing point of view. America survived all the negativity back then and we shall survive all the bitterness and negativity that is going on now. The Constitution was trampled on by the right back in the 60-70′s by denying free speech,denying equal rights,by using abusive police tactics,having an abusive President(Nixon)and gas prices that soared. The folks back then accomplished much in equal rights and in some other areas but lost a few battles too. It’s like DeJa vu today with the same complaints and you will win a few battles and some things will stay the same.

          • kate8

            The thing is, eddie, we don’t hate government. We hate overreaching, tyrannical government which seeks to overthrow our Constitutional Republic and “fundamentally transform America”.

            We cannot work with a government that refuses to allow us voice, that seeks to take away ever more freedom through exploiting crisis. A true leader would seek to bring us together, not speak inflammatory words meant to further divide us.

            The difference between the 60s, 70s and today is that we’ve got a truly dumbed down populace, those in government are far more corrupt and has its tentacles into every part of our lives, and there is great motivation among the elite to openly rule the world. They intend to destroy all national (and personal) sovereignty and have the Earth under one centralized global government.

            The threat today of world war is great. We are at a place and time like no other. We either rein government in and restablish freedom, morality and goodwill, or there is no turning back.

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      stilldazed… I really hope this wasn’t politically motivated. I think just dismissing it as a lunatic shooting or ranting and raving that the Tea Party is responsible are both dangerous assumptions. We do need a little time to sort it out, and hopefully the correct conclusion will be delivered. My prayers are with all the families.

    • Thomas G Kroger

      Conspiracy nuts? You mean conspiracies can’t or don’t exist? The Warren Report on the JFK assassination was an obvious work of fiction – the fatal head shot came from in front of the motorcade.

      Thanks to people who routinely debunk those of us who think apart from the media as “conspiracy nuts” or “conspiracy theorists,” we will probably never know the ultimate perpetrators of Kennedy’s death were. JFK was no angel — but he was the last duly elected President IMHO, AND he bypassed the infamous Federal Reserve just months before his assassination by issuing Silver Certificates.

      Just coincidence, right?

      • Thomas G Kroger

        Oops! I guess I forgot about how Daley “fixed” the Chicago vote. Yeah, there was vote-fraud even back then: the Democrat Party elevated it to an art form. Oh, well, another enemy of JFK – namely Sam Giancona, who applied the pressure to Daley to fix the vote so Kennedy could win, all at the behest of JFK’s father. Problem was, JFK decided to have an affair with Judith Exner, who was Sam Giancona’s main squeeze.

        As for the existence of a conspiracy, I rest my case.

      • bob wire

        “the fatal head shot came from in front of the motorcade. ”

        no it didn’t !

  • http://NONE Ken McBride

    Sheriff Mack has nothing but praise for the slain judge.
    the pima county sheriff looks like a real winner.
    this massacre sure smells like the sheriff there
    anybody that expresses concern for their country and their laws are in clear and present danger by one-worlders and the globalists.
    bushy&obongo are the same coin simply look at the war on terror and it’s coming to a county near you.

    • kate8

      Ken – Yes, and I’ll bet you anything that the judge who replaces him will have a different outlook.

      • bob wire

        and who is to replace our congress person? Are we to be simply down a vote until a replacement is found?

        Hmm?

  • http://N/A J.NormanSayles

    Is it appropriate for a Federal Judge to participate in an office holder’s rally? For all his judicaial qualifications, it is strange he would give illegal aliens standing in our courts. They are invaders, violators of our soverignty, of our private property rights. Arizona is a battlegroung, and we tie the hands of those who would forcefully defend our nation. Send the military to the Border with bean bag ammo is a joke, and a danger to the interdictors.

  • Kirk Dickinson

    It says in the article:
    “In 2009, Roll and his wife enlisted U.S. Marshals Service Protection following his controversial decision ”

    So, my question is where were the US Marshals? Huh?

    Were they pulled out?

    If the US Marshals were protecting him they did a poor job. If they were doing their job correctly, the loon would have been dead within seconds of pulling his gun.

    So, where were they?

    • Al

      The Marshalls only protect persons for a short time and then they deem the threat is over. This however is not true. Persons of the like of this shooter harbour resentment for many, many years, and it only takes the “”RIGHT CIRCUMSTANCES” to set them off. There is a huge number of Americans with very short fuses due to the Government, Corruption as a whole and the ATTACK on Middle Class Americans. Why don’t we have jobs? They are located in foreign countries. Why don’t the Import Fees offset domestically produced products? That’s up to Our Government. Why do we see so many foreign made cars? Not enough import fees. So America loses jobs and it’s economy suffers. We don’t even have a government that will assure us that we are not Under a Foreign President dictator who resembles acts of Castro,Chavez, and Ahmadhijad.

  • jopa

    In the above statement it claims Judge Roll was one of the judges that ruled background checks on individuals buying firearms was unconstitutional.He may be alive today if a background check was done on the shooter.

    • independant thinker

      A background check was done on the shooter. He purchased the pistol from a licensed dealer who ran the background check per current law.

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      When you fill out a firearm application to purchase, there is a list of questions that you must answer and sign that you answered correctly. It then is sent or phoned in for a background check. If it clears the state and fed. background info. you can purchase the firearm. If some burecrat doesn’t enter data in the system or the police don’t send in background material it probably won’t be stopped. By signing the form with false information the buyer is subject to fine and imprisonment. That’s why most criminals steal or buy their guns on the black market. It is not the gun but the person who is responsible. You can lay a loaded pistol on the table for a thousand years and it will never jump up and shoot someone. it takes a person to do that. Same can be said for many potentially deadly objects, including a car. What would have happened if this lunitic would have driven a car at high speed into the crowd. dead is dead. The resposibility lies with the individual and possibly those who enabled him.

  • Anti Government

    I hope all re-evaluate their hate rhetoric. All the talk of 2nd amendment solutions and revolution have lead to this crazy act and will lead to more. There should be no new laws but we should self regulate our hate speech.

    • kate8

      Anti G – I doubt if kids like this ever even heard political rhetoric. That is just another ploy to end free-speech.

      Why is no one pointing fingers at Hollywood? Our kids have grown up a a steady diet of violence and mayhem since birth, in TV, movies, music and violent video games. Where’s the call to reign in Hollywood? Because they are more of a propaganda tool than any political speech, with far more impact.

      Oh, wait. Hollywood is Left. They won’t be mentioned. Too much money involved, too.

      • Chuck

        Good Point Kate.

        • kate8

          Another problem is the Leftist educational system, which teaches our kids to defy their parents and hate America.

          These kids have no love of country, no understanding of who we are, or those who’ve gone before us and sacrificed themselves to insure our future.

          People are insisting that we stop pointing fingers. But if we don’t start looking at where the anti-American sentiment is stemming from, at what our kids are being taught, what they are exposed to that is corrupting and defiling them…well, it’s not coming from the Right.

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      Hate speech is anything the liberals disagree with.

      • bob wire

        thanks for your thought provoking definition Gunner.

        I wasn’t aware the left was awarded final say.

  • Teresa

    This act was done by a Crazy, Insane man. OUR rights should not be infringed upon because of one nut. There will always be nuts out there breaking laws and WE THE PEOPLE should not have OUR rights taken away because of the actions of ONE nut, end of story! This is happening now with all our rights! Our 1,4,10 and now our 2nd amendment is now at risk……When the media and government take such a tragedy and uses it in such a mockery to further their agenda, not only is it sick to the stomach they should be held accountable.
    TYRANNY…is the word that comes to mind. There are people from all over the nation mourning these acts and also mourning the outcry of the actions taken by the media and congress. It is not a crime to voice your anger on policies or object your leaders decissions, it is not a crime to bear arms…The crime here is Government even considering trying to silence us or taking our gun rights away. When the people fear the government….you have TYRANNY!

    • Al

      Teresa: Our American Rights are either being taken away or attacked every day. I am beginning to believe Obama is a Foreigner who is ineligible to be our Dictator President. He is overstepping the mark every day lately. Congress has a job to do. First; find out if we have a Foreigner as President and if so follow the Rules as set forth in the formerly drafted chain of government. Each “Right” that is being removed follows closely what leads to Dictatorship Regimes like Castro’s, Chavez’s, Ahamijihad etc. Obama”s attacks on the News Media, the internet, gun ownership etc were all forerunners of countries which went under Dictatorship. We are being overrun with illegals and (Muslims legal or not) who are not prepared to accept our culture or society. My question is if they don’t accept American Society; why in blazes are they here?

      • Teresa

        Al, read the book Muslim Mafia…your in for an eye opener, truly.

      • Vicki

        They are here to destroy.

  • Carl Spencer

    America dial down the rhetoric. This vitrolic political hate is dividing our nation. We must quickly learn to agree to disagree from this Tucson’s experience peacefully or suffer the long-term consequences of a failed nation.
    I pray we can!

  • http://elliesmiles@hotmail.com Stuck in NY

    Abusive political discourse has no place in our society and people should refrain from its usage.

    • ValDM

      How do you define abusive? The left call me a bigot and a hater whenever I disagree with them. As far as I know, I’m still allowed to disagree. My disagreement is not abusive, but the name-calling sure is.

      • bob wire

        Nanny Nanny Poo Poo! , I got you last!

  • s c

    If it’s true that it’s not “right” to let a good crisis go to waste (in the words of Rahmbo], then our media types will crank out books and take several weeks of air time to tell us what to do and how to do it. Maybe they could tell the sheriff of Pima County that his job involves much more than getting air time or trying to convince taxpayers that he’s doing a good job.
    Most likely, the judge was in the wrong place at the wrong time. In a way, it’s amusing that some of our Washington ‘leaders’ are claiming to need extra protection. With all the easy money they make, they can afford to hire all the guards they need [note: I said NOTHING about taxpayers footing the bill for this "need"]. And forget any “need” for yet MORE legislation.

    • kate8

      s c – Several months ago I actually posted a link for an article telling us that these events were coming this year. The article also said that media reports and political comments were already spun and scripted, to be applied to whatever situation.

      I agree that we may never really know the whole truth, but you can bet that what we hear isn’t it.

  • Len Dean

    When you see a house on fire you don’t agree to disagree. You go after the fire and save the people in the house. Someone will get hurt as a result or at least put themselves in danger. So many people would stand there and decide there is no one in the house so why try.
    Those of you without courage agree to disagree. Hitler ran a country and tryed to eliminate anyone that disagreed. Those that stood by agreed to disagree. Milk toast, luke warm is always wrong and it spells apathy. That’s what got us here and the only way out is to stand and fight for what you believe. We expect congress to do it, when they don’t we loose our country. Should they rule the roost by agreeing to disagree? I don’t think so !!!

  • Karen W

    Now that’s intresting, because I never heard anything about the CONSERVATIVE Fed. Judge. Now I know this kid was manchurian. This was a gov. plot to remove our guns and more freedom. Nicely covered up.

    • Pat R

      My thoughts are along this same venue. The Judge was not even thinking about going to the rally, but received a phone call insisting that he come. He arrives, the action starts, he is killed! What would any “sane” person do with that information?
      People it’s time to wake up! If you truly want a better life for your kids and grandkids; check out the Republic for the united States of America. Time is running out for all of us. We need your support to put an end to all of this BS that comes out of Washington. We have a Conference Call tonite. Go to the website, get the telephone numbers and listen in. You will probably hear something that will stir your heart strings and help you make a decision.

      http://www.republicoftheunitedstates.org

  • Teresa

    There is a lot of talking…still…back and forth. Consider this>
    1. I will remind you again, watch the judiciary system
    2. This nut-case who killed these innocent victims. Please note the fbi was called in to the rescue to handle the case of which he has a high attorney. How do you think the outcome will end. Now how do yo think it would end if tried in AZ?
    3. I will repeat again, voicing your opinion on policies is NOT vitrolic political hate. I will NOT give up my right to speak! I repeat ARE YOU SLAVES!
    4. Look backwards, now and ahead…..for the facts are clear, what does your freedom mean to you!

    • Pat R

      Teresa: You are 100% correct. WE are SLAVES to the UNITED STATES CORPORATION (which is this government). I will no longer be a slave; I AM A SOVEREIGN! By the way; the Military, FBI, the Pentagon already support the Republic. Why are you waiting to come aboard?

      http://www.republicoftheunitedstates.org

      • Teresa

        Thank You.

      • bob wire

        “WE are SLAVES to the UNITED STATES CORPORATION (which is this government). I will no longer be a slave; I AM A SOVEREIGN! By the way; the Military, FBI, the Pentagon already support the Republic. Why are you waiting to come aboard?”

        well, yea but don’t confuse these things as all being the same.

        and what you are suggesting is treason and insurrection, at least as you wrote it.

        It isn’t that simple, ~ and being a “slave” to something or someone is nothing new and not always a bad thing.

        You have never been truly free, there has always someone close to snatch you bald headed if you got out of line.

        So this leaves to you express, what freedoms you want that you presently don’t enjoy.

        Say what you want! ~ Tell us, define it, ~ just crying for freedom leaves a lot to the imagination without any precursor or context.

        Free parking? Free dental? what?

    • Vicki

      For all those who doubt Teresa just go and try to start a business as a plumber or electrician. Or take your private property (gun, car, some plants) to a friends house without the permission of government (your masters). Get caught and your Master will punish you.

      Show evidence that the above conditions are any different from slavery.

  • Al

    Do you ever wonder if the politicians ever read our comments or not. If they did they probably just go “ho hum” the illiterate middle class is at it again. We’ll just butter them up as it gets close to election time so we will retain our seats. Actually middle America is retaining in their memory banks and paying heed to their actions moreso now than ever in the past. God Bless America and the few Politicians who actually get off their butts and work for the “People; their “Employers”.

  • Void1972

    A Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that the top US Federal Judge for the State of Arizona was assassinated barely 72-hours after he made a critical ruling against the Obama administrations plan to begin the confiscation of their citizen’s private retirement and banking accounts in order to stave off their nations imminent economic collapse, and after having the US Marshals protecting him removed.
    According to this SVR report, Federal Judge John McCarthy Roll was the Chief Judge for the United States District Court for the District of Arizona who this past Friday issued what is called a “preliminary ruling” in a case titled “United States of America v. $333,520.00 in United States Currency et al” [Case Number: 4:2010cv00703 Filed: November 30, 2010] wherein he stated he was preparing to rule against Obama’s power to seize American citizens money without clear and convincing evidence of a crime being committed.
    The case being ruled on by Judge Roll, this report continues, was about bulk cash smuggling into or out of the United States that the Obama administration claimed was their right to seize under what are called Presidential Executive Orders, instead of using existing laws. The Obama administration used as support for their claim before Judge Roll, the SVR says, the seizing of all American citizens’ gold, in 1933, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s signing of Executive Order 6102, which was ruled at the time to be constitutional.
    Should the Obama administration win their argument to seize their citizen’s money by Executive Order without having to abide by the law was made more chilling this past week when reports emerged from the US stating that President Obama and his regime allies were, indeed, preparing to rule America by decree since their loss this past November of their control over the US House of Representatives, and in the words of the Washington Posts columnist Charles Krauthammer: “For an Obama bureaucrat … the will of the Congress is a mere speed bump”.
    Since taking office in early 2009, Obama has completely overturned the once free United States through his use of Executive Orders that asserts his power to put anyone he wants in prison without charges or trial forever and his right to assassinate any American citizen he deems a threat.
    The most chilling of these powers Obama has asserted for himself, however, are contained in Executive Order 13528 he signed nearly a year ago (January 10, 2010) creating a Council of Governors he has hand-picked to rule over the United States in place of its elected representatives when their next “disaster” strikes and orders them to begin “synchronization and integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States; and other matters of mutual interest pertaining to National Guard, homeland defense, and civil support activities”.
    Going from the chilling to the outright scary, about whatever “disaster” the American regime is preparing their people for, is Obama’s Homeland Security Department, through their Ready.Gov organization, beginning to air this past week a public service television commercial titled “World Upside Down” that shows a typical family sitting in their home suddenly losing all of its gravity and warning all who watch it to begin preparing.
    Note: In our previous reports US Descends Into Total Police State As 2012 ‘Solar Chaos’ Fears Grow, Pole Shift Blamed For Russian Air Disaster, Closure Of US Airport and Poisonous Space Clouds Slamming Into Earth Cause Mass Bird And Fish Deaths we had detailed some of fears the US government are most worried about, but which they still will not be truthful to their citizens about.
    Interesting to note about the assassination of Judge Roll is that it is being blamed on a “lone gunman” said to be mentally unstable (aren’t they all) said directed at a US Congresswoman named Gabrielle Giffords, who survived this mass killing, and that killed at least 5 other innocent people, including a 9-year-old girl named Christina Taylor Green “curiously” born on September 11, 2001 (9/11).
    Equally interesting to note about the assassin, a 22-year-old man named Jared Loughner, is that he is being described by the propaganda media organs in the US as an “anti-government” type individual who prior to this mass killing is said to have left “crazed rantings” on the Internet, but whose “handler”, described as a white male between 40-50 years old with dark hair, is still being sought after.
    The circumstances surrounding Judge Roll’s assassination by Loughner, also, mirror those of Farouk Abdulmutallab (aka The Underwear Bomber) who “used cash to buy a one-way ticket to the United States at the last minute while carrying no luggage and being on a terrorist watch list. Incredibly, his father had communicated to the US Embassy in Nigeria in November that Abdulmutallab had been radicalized and may be planning a terrorist attack.
    At least one witness—passenger Kurt Haskell—claimed that a well-dressed Indian man had escorted Abdulmutallab to the ticket counter and told a ticket agent that Abdulmutallab didn’t have a passport but needed to get on the plane.”
    To if this Loughner is able to join the long list of CIA/US Military “mind controlled” assassins there appears to be no doubt as his actions, past, present and future, shows his fitting the “profile” of these maniacs as detailed in the massive lawsuit currently wending its way through the US Federal Court system [United States District Court Northern District Of California, San Francisco Division Case: CV-09-0037] filed against the US government by hundreds of veterans, and as we can read as reported by the Raw Story news service:
    “It’s well known that the CIA began testing substances like LSD on soldiers beginning in the 1950s but less is known about allegations that the agency implanted electrodes in subjects. A 2009 lawsuit claimed that the CIA intended to design and test septal electrodes that would enable them to control human behavior. The lawsuit said that because the government never disclosed the risks, the subjects were not able to give informed consent.”
    To if the American people will ever be told the truth about Loughner and his assassination of Judge Roll there seems little doubt as the Obama regime is fighting with everything it has to keep the information on these “mind controlled” assassins secret, and as we can read as reported by the Courthouse News service:
    “The Central Intelligence Agency in January (2011) will argue for dismissal of Vietnam veterans’ claims that the CIA must provide them with information about the health effects of chemicals used on them during Cold War-era human experiments. The CIA also claims it is not obligated to provide the veterans with medical care for side effects of the drugs. It’s the CIA’s third attempt to get the case dismissed.
    “In a 2009 federal lawsuit, Vietnam Veterans of America claimed that the Army and CIA had used at least 7,800 soldiers as guinea pigs in “Project Paperclip.” They were given at least 250 and as many as 400 types of drugs, among them sarin, one of the most deadly drugs known to man, amphetamines, barbiturates, mustard gas, phosgene gas and LSD.
    Among the project’s goals were to control human behavior, develop drugs that would cause confusion, promote weakness or temporarily cause loss of hearing or vision, create a drug to induce hypnosis and identify drugs that could enhance a person’s ability to withstand torture.
    The veterans say that some of the soldiers died, and others suffered grand mal seizures, epileptic seizures and paranoia. The veterans say the CIA promised in the 1970s to compensate those who were made guinea pigs, but the 2009 complaint states that the government “never made a sincere effort to locate the survivors.”
    In its 32-page motion to dismiss the group’s third amended complaint, the CIA claims it has no legal obligation under the Administrative Procedures Act to provide the veterans with notice of the drugs’ health effects and that the veterans’ notice claim “rests solely on state common-law duty.”
    The CIA claims that the law on which the veterans base their claim for health care compensation stems from the Department of Defense and Army regulations, “which do not purport to have a binding affect on the CIA.” And it claims that the Defense Department “never intended nor committed to providing medical care for service member participants in the test programs.”
    Based upon the CIA’s assertion that the US Defense Department “never intended nor committed to providing medical care for service member participants in the test programs” clearly shows their knowing of the existence of these “mind control” assassins, like Loughner, leading one to wonder how many more of them are out there, and even worse, when they will strike next.
    One can only hope that there is some “power” in America today able to stop the madness currently taking over that once great nation before all is truly lost, we hope it is much sooner than later for all of the worlds sake.

    • kate8

      Void – Thank you for posting that in text. Maybe more people will read it.

      I knew I would catch a lot of flack for believing that this is far more sinister than the media would have us swallow. Thank God there are others on this thread who can think outside of the box.

      No one wants to believe the enormity of the evil at play here, but folks, our very survival is at stake. We’d better start stepping out of our comfort zone and confronting the larger picture here, or we have no chance of turning this around.

      The enemies within aren’t going to give up without a heck of a fight. Are we up to it?

      Remember, no matter how scary, knowledge is power. One of the first rules in any battle is to know your enemy. To do that, we must first realize it exists.

      • James

        Kate8, I believe the enormity of it, I just approach it from the biblical point of view. We’re headed for Armageddon, it starts with conventiional weapons in the Middle East but will escalate to nuclear weapons, which will certainly involve the United States.

      • bob wire

        “One of the first rules in any battle is to know your enemy. To do that, we must first realize it exists.”

        and who is the enemy Katie?

  • Arddu

    I’m curious about the “cab driver” who transported Loughner to the scene of the crime.
    Last I heard, he was not a “person of interest”, but Loughner’s schoolmates, teachers, and neighbors have been sought out and interviewed by the media—you’d think that the last person to have contact with Loughner before the shootings might be able to give some interesting insights into Loughner’s state of mind, so where is this guy?

    • Teresa

      Never, ever trust Eric Holder! Like I said earlier, watch the judicial system now! And watch the fbi on this case!

    • James

      Arddu, the cab driver is of no incidence. Laughner took a cab to Rep. Giffords scheduled outdoor meeting place, to kill her and as many other people before he was killed. The notes he left indicate that he fully expected to die there.

    • bob wire

      Good point! but I have a difficult time believing your statement that the Cab Driver was of no interest to the FBI.

      For one thing, they would want to know where the cab picked him up and when. Establishing a “time line”, a standard approach to any investigation.

  • bob wire

    Well, Laughner is alive at the moment and unless someone kills him, the truth will be forth coming. I want to think the Judges unfortunate demise purely “happenstance” but there is no need to rush to any conclusions.
    At the the end of the day, we will know, ~ this child is not a street smart harden criminal that’s impossible to crack. He’ll never be allowed to walk around a free person for the rest of his days.

    Any privileges he might assume, like cloths or light or a cloth mattress is for him to earn. Misery can take many forms, being locked up naked in a small dark 65 degree concrete cell with no window, no light, chair, bed or blanket is some hard time.

    After a week, I’d tell you everything that you wanted to know and I believe he will too.

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