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Fed To Take Over National TV, Radio Today

November 9, 2011 by  

Fed To Take Over National TV, Radio Today

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is set today for the first nationwide test of its mass media-takeover emergency alert system.

For years, State and local governments have used the Emergency Alert System [EAS] to notify the public of weather and other emergencies on a local scale, but today’s test will represent for the first time the Federal government’s ability to jam all State, local and national airwaves.

In previous tests, broadcasters were able to manually opt out of broadcasting the government message. But with regulations in recent years that require FEMA airwave takeover equipment, the Federal government is able to seize control.

Liberty-minded radio hosts Alex Jones and Glenn Beck have both spoken out against the totalitarian media takeover.

“[T]he EAS [Emergency Alert System] is something new and exciting and something brought to you by Homeland Security, under the George Bush Administration,” Beck said in a recent broadcast on GBTV. “[I] have a problem with the EAS system, one of the reasons I have a problem with it is it seizes control of the broadcast frequency. If I don’t trip the EAS system, the station is tripped for me, it’s automatic. In the middle of my sentence, if the State wants to take control, they just take it.”

Jones has been speaking out against Executive Order 10995 which allows for total government takeover of all major media for over a decade.

“There are going to be more and more government break-ins over radio and TV… This is authoritarian censorship by way of government break-ins with announcements, no country has ever done this, this is beyond 1984, and it’s really happening.” Jones said last February speaking about a government plan to use the EAS system as a State media device.

The test will begin at 2 p.m. Eastern Standard Time today, and is expected to black out television and radio nationally for 30 seconds.

Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • s c

    No matter how anyone tries to whitewash this contrived, insane muscle flexing, no one can remove its dictatorial stench. Full-blown, galloping, paranoid schizophrenia is in the air.
    Did anyone in Congress complain about this Nero-like event? Does the VP have any independent thoughts about it? Does anyone on the Supreme Court have the courage to say what needs to be said?
    If this is just a test, I’m next in line for a Nobel Peace Prize. George Orwell, you never knew how right you were. Your timing was off a little, but you were definitely right.

    • bill

      does the VP have any independent thoughts, period?

      • Wayne

        The only independent thought the VP has had is hmm oh yeah “This is a big F#%kin deal”

      • Joe H.

        bill,
        There’s no room for independant thoughts in his skull with his size ten foot in his mouth all the time!! He is a perfect example of the term EMPTY SUIT!!

    • DanB

      Personally, I don’t this is NOT the official takeover. I suspect this time it really be a “test”, of what can be debated all we want. I am sure that there are many that will scream “dictatorship” and the government will be able to prove this time it was only a test. This does two things. First it will embarrass those that point out that this total media control is a symptom that goes hand in hand with dictatorships. By having it only a test, it will make the public believe that there is nothing to fear. Thus lulling the public to sleep about the danger of granting our government such total control. I suspect though that our government is very close to completing the transition to complete and overt dictatorship. And sadly, many people would accept it….

      • DanB

        Fell for the cursed double negative, should have only used one.

        “don’t this is NOT the official takeover”

        • Templar

          So what DanB! Thanks for your contribution to nothing.

          • Pam R

            Obama can’t even take over the country. He botches everything he does. The test failed, you know.

    • eddie47d

      The test is over no one died and no rights were lost. Almost all comments invoked fear and loathing of everything. Feel better now?

      • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

        no, they still have control of the system

      • charli chikn lady

        eddie… it’s not fear and loathing… it’s just recognizing that our gov’t can and does exactly as it wishes – even when we the people voice an opinion either negative or positive. “they” have forgotten that it took we the people to put them in office and now we have this (bad) feeling that it’s created the environment for an “us” and a “them”. sad to see our once proud country become so divided…

      • Robert Smith

        Had it been a real alert we’d all be dead now.

        Actually with CNN, CNBC, and all the rest WHY do we need EAS?

        As an example: During 911 EAS was not used. Yet America had eyeballs on screens moments after the first plane hit from the news choppers of the local TV stations. America watched the second plane hit live. We were also able to see GWB and the kids.

        Please, explain to me how EAS can reach more people faster… It’s an extra expense for local community stations. They chalk it up to community service.

        What we need is on each electronic device (stereo, DVD player, TV, even game boxes) is an input for a wire from a WX cube (cost about $10) so that no matter what you can get instant information for life saving information on things like like tornados. It could even be set to wake one up out of a deep sleep, or not if you don’t want any warning.

        It’s cheap, reliable, and hugely more practical than what’s in place now and what’s going to be in place.

        Rob

        • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

          because now they can shut you off and feed you the gov.info,only give you the info they think you should have.

          • Robert Smith

            Only if local stations and cable companies allow it.

            And the people who work in TV station operations are generally aware of what’s going on in the world.

            Rob

          • Joe H.

            robert,
            Who do you think OWNS those local networks?? The big ones!!!!

          • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

            the idea of the gov. controlling the switch is when THEY want to they throw it and control every station weather the station gives them permission or not this is not like the state run setup.

      • DaveH

        We’ll feel better when you leave, you condescending Troll, eddie.

      • Carol

        How can a person feel better when they took over the TV for 5 minutes saying there was an alert in the District of Columbia. They do these tests so often that nobody is going to pay attention when the danger is real.

    • Rick USAF (ret)

      Well we can’t say we didn’t see this coming (at least those of us who don’t have blinders on and stick to the kool-aid diet). It was hinted during the Iranian protests and then again during the uprisings in the streets of Egypt, Syria, Libya, etc. that the government would suppress any use of the internet, tv, phone lines, or any other mode of communication between the people. In light of current world events in just the last year and now the OWS movement I think we are seeing a true deep-seated concern on the part of the government where communications matter. If you can cut off all communications in a nation except those for official government entities like the military, homeland security, FEMA, etc. you essentially control every aspect of society. Think about it, if they decided to send troops/security forces from all areas of the Fed Gov’t to seize weapons from households in today’s age and stand the slightest chance of success they would have to first and foremost cut off any and all lines of communications at least coming out of the community they are raiding so as to prevent the masses from warning friends and relatives across the country of what was happening. The same could be used if they decided to round up anyone they deemed a threat like vets, militias, or anyone ever known to express their concerns that could be construed as conspiracy theories.

      Watch out! The day of this happening is not too far off. I still say that if Obummers reelection efforts appear dismal at best or, even, not likely a sure thing, he’s find find or orchestra some massive movement similar to OWS but on a grander scale and then use that movement as justification for initiating (for the first time in American history) Martial Law.

      • LMW6

        While I agree that this is a frightening abuse of Federal power, I would advise caution is making a claim that Obama might declare Martial Law in order to not leave office. The Libs claimed that about G.W. and it didn’t happen. Speak to how this is an abuse of power, not about conspiracy theories of a President wanting to become a dictator. Folks tune that out.

        • Aix Sponsa

          Obama has been one of the best things that has happened to the USA. WE THE PEOPLE are finally getting fed up with the liberal national nazism and The USA is very close to another true civil war. It won’t be pretty and it won’t be fun, but “it will be”.

  • pa

    China has a similar system and effectively used it during the 2009 Xinjiang uprising (plenty of Google references). The communications shutdown also included voice and data in and out of the entire province.
    Xinjiang Province is a predominately Muslim.

    • Wu Ming Ren

      So that’s what Obama meant, when he said, “We can learn a lot from China.” China had total blackouts of communications into and out of its western regions, particularly Xinjiang Province. They did this to quell the Muslim uprisings, because Muslims run to the sound of gunfire when it involves the fellow believers. When my wife (Chinese from Taiwan) and I (speaking Mandarin at the near-native level of fluency) traveled to China to adopt our two daughters, I took the opportunity to discuss political issues with local Chinese. One of the issues that interested them was the Muslim attacks on America and our responses in Iraq and Afghanistan. When I asked about the Uighurs (Muslims) of Xinjiang and Huijiao (Muslims) of other parts of China, I was uniformly told, “Oh, no. Our Muslims are friendly and peaceful.” I guess the Chinese Ministry of State Security has that under control, eh? America bad for aggression against Muslims; China good for peaceful relationships with indigenous Muslims. Uh-huh.

  • Al Sieber

    Nothing is wrong with your television,do not attempt to adjust it, we control the transmission, we control the horizontal, we control the vertical….. we’re gonna control your life.

    • Bruce

      Oh Al,

      Its been going on for a long time, can anyone recall a person named Walter Cronkite? Read his own words, look at who got him his job at CBS news.
      So now its just official and they are telling us all so.

  • Terri

    Umm whoops! silly me. where is the “back on” switch. All interlopers will be waiting with baited breath.

  • 45caliber

    I’m sure this is a test. They need to make sure they can block all communication when they wish to. And sooner or later, when Big Brother speaks, they will want every person to hear regardless of what you might want. After all, they MUST make sure everyone hears the orders, right?

    • Al Sieber

      That’s their plan.

    • azjeff1963

      the plan is to cut us all off from eackother WHEN THEY start trying to take our gun rights away so we dont assemble and kick thier azzes.

      • Aix Sponsa

        Some recent poll that just came out said that there are 400 million long guns and 200 million handguns in the USA. And a few people have lots of ammo. Maybe some will be ready for the civil war… or revolution.

    • Fozzysmom

      and it’ll take me one second to turn the tv or radio off. nobody wants to hear their bullsh#t!

      • Bus

        When Hitler gave his radio speeches he had spys in the neighborhood who nicely “invited” people without radios to come to their flat and listen. People who said they weren’t going to listen soon had a change of address.
        With today’s technology the black helecopters will be able to zero in during the speech and haul your unloyal butt off to be re-educated immediately. Wait did I just compare the current administration to Germany in 1935? I’ll be singing a Hank Williams Jr. song.

        • Fozzysmom

          well i guess i’ll just be turning the sound down then and i don’t think they’ve enough choppers to cover the whole nation at once. and that re-educatein’ thing, it didn’t work the first time and won’t work a third time. AND yes you did, but that’s ok, it’s hard to tell the diff. these days. ‘your cheetin’ heart’ would be appropreate. oh, and thank you for your interest in my education.

      • Earl

        They’ll have to shut up all the CB’ers and amateur radio operators also, and all the radio people who will go “rogue” when that occurs. The sunspot cycle is going to be high for the next few years and that contributes to good shortwave communications. Use call signs then? HA! Keep ya powder dry!

        • Joe H.

          Earl,
          I have a CB in the truck, and about seven others that I could mount in other vehicles in avout 5 minutes per. I also have my SW meter to match the antennas.

          • Aix Sponsa

            Better find a better primary source, CBs have about a one mile range, what with all the clutter on the airwaves, and when the SHTF it will be much worse. We have better service from the GMRS/FRS toys.

    • Robert Smith

      45 says: “And sooner or later, when Big Brother speaks…”

      Do you really believe that all those “liberal” stations will allow that?

      But oops, most of the Media is part of big business and isn’t really “liberal.”

      Rob

      • Joe H.

        yeah, robbie you keep thinking that those alphabets aren’t liberal, I’m sure that’s what your hero nobummer wants!!!

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Rex

    This is bad, but just wait a few more months when it gets closer to election and shi_head declares Marshall Law and opens all the FEMA prisons for all dissenters (Republicans and Independents). Check out FEMA prisons.

    • Joyce from Loris

      Exactly, the government must be able to communicate the “martial law” decreed to everyone, so they need to control the air waves. There are days that I am ready for “the end of time”. It’s almost overwhelming and leaves one feeling absolutely incapable of doing anything about what is going on, we can’t change anything, no matter who we vote in.

    • eddie47d

      They do have places for folks like you Rex who brag up the FEMA camps. They are called mental wards.

      • Opal the Gem

        I believe it was you eddie who, just the other day, said the FEMA camps DO exist. You said they were there to take in the victoms of natural disasters such as Katrina.

      • eddie47d

        I never said they didn’t exist but for the real reasons not made up paranoid reasons like death camps.

        • charli chikn lady

          so eddie…. i guess when the “swine flu epidemic” starts, you will be willing to relocate to a strange environment “for your protection” and get the vaccine? not me….. just shoot me in the head…. like i said…. the gov’t can make up ANYTHING to make the populice become sheeple….. aren’t you just a little scared? i am. just sayin’……… god bless

        • eddie47d

          I see your point and no one should be forced to have a vaccination or forced to relocate for their own good. If you refuse a vaccination and you die then that is your own fault. Now if there was a war somewhere and you had to be moved or be bombed to oblivion then I reckon I would move. Depends on various circumstances. Now if the government comes and tells me I have to move and they take my house without compensation then I would stay and fight for it or die.

        • Opal the Gem

          So far they have not been used for what you claim they are for that being disaster relief/housing so w2hat are they for?

        • Aix Sponsa

          All things can be used for good or evil. And since the feds have the ultimate control……

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        I hadn’t realized that FEMA and the government had renamed those camps to mental wards. I’ll certainly keep that in mind. And I’m certain that sooner or later you’ll be asked to join them there.

        • Joe H.

          45,
          you mean he’s not ALREADY there?!?!?!

        • Aix Sponsa

          If you will do a close study on the Hitler Nazis, you will realize the possibilities that exist.

          • independent thinker

            Read “The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich”. Its an eye opener.

  • Mushin

    Everyone who is interested in maintaining communications can purchase a short-wave radio and antennae at low cost….

    • Fozzysmom

      aahh – smart idea – thanks.

    • Wu Ming Ren

      I have been looking into a mobile radio for some time. You will want a mobile radio, unless you want to remain under virtual house arrest. When the crap hits the fan, you will want to be mobile anyway, because under Martial Law, your right to transmit can easily be revoked. That will mean the government will be using RDF to find you, or jammers to block you.

      One of the problems I’m finding is that you need a decent power supply and antenna for any dependability. Unfortunately, even with good equipment, you don’t really have distance communications. That is to say, you’ll not have anything like telephone or Internet communications. You may have to depend on relayed signals, and then, who do you trust?

      Trust brings up another issue. It is currently illegal to broadcast on citizen’s bands in anything but clear speech. You will want to have coded messages or codewords to communicate with others. I’m guessing that if radio transmissions are restricted, it won’t matter if you use code when you break radio silence.

      Regardless, if you really want to use radio, you had better get started now. You’ll want to establish communications protocols. You’ll want to understand how to minimize government interest in you. No doubt, under Martial Law, the government will be busy trying to stop you from communicating, and you’ll want to take measures for escape and evasion.

      Bottom line: You better really, really want to use radio, and you better really, really know how to use it and protect yourself.

    • 45caliber

      Mushin:

      True. But you have to have the government’s permission to use it – which can be revoked at their pleasure. I do believe there were people in Germany who had short wave radios at the start of WWII. For some reason most of those soon disappeared …

  • Roadkill

    MARTIAL LAW BEFORE JUNE OF NEXT YEAR…………….

    • Lastmanstanding

      There are several ammo factories near us. They are growing/producing at an incredible pace…Where does it all go? 1. Military 2. Police. 3. the citizenry.

      There is a damn good chance that this is going to end badly.

      However, I don’t believe that the military will turn on the citizenry.and the police will need to protect their families a.k.a. the citizenry.

      Our govt as it is… needs to go.

      • Fozzysmom

        about a yr. ago i read where obozo was getting together an army of his own. it’s not military or police, but it’s numbers are almost as high as the military. they hinted this malisha was for things like the ocupiers, but haven’t seen any sigh of them there. so you know there’s something much larger in the making that they are saving those troops for. keep on your toes. ( and i read this in 3 or 4 diff. places over the past 8 to 10 months, so it’s not just an isolated artical. diff. authers too. )

      • eddie47d

        I’ll take that bet Roadkill about Martial Law being imposed by June of next year. I won the first bet here when someone said it was going to happen by early spring of this year. The next one will be Dec 1st when Time said that America would cease to exist and Martial Law would be imposed.Better get crackin because it’s almost here. I think too many of you have been watching toooo many space alien movies and are running on empty. I guess you have to pull something out of the hat to keep us at the edge of our seats. Fozzysmom brings up private armies. You mean the Militias or Black Water? Stick with defeating the Patriot Act instead of coming up with new conspiracy theories to rattle your brains.

        • Fozzysmom

          yep! that’s exactly what they were called -’ obozo’s privet army’. you know ED, if you weren’t so afraid of the real world and trying to ‘explain away’ everybodys’ ‘conspericy theories’, you’d find the real world isn’t as bad and sceary as you think it is. it’s a pretty comfortable place. you’ve got to learn to relax kid.

          • eddie47d

            Good grief are you dizzy I was thinking the same thing about you in spreading false flag rumors. You are the one who needs to chill out and relax. Stop following all the conspiracy sheeple here.

          • Fozzysmom

            sheeple-sheeple-sheeple- oh how you enjoy trailing behind the flock. and you’re not going to find anybody more laid-back then i am. #1-what flag rumor #2-dizzy is fun.

          • eddie47d

            You spend too much time fooling yourself Fozzy.

          • Joe H.

            eddie,
            when your favorite hero, nobummer started out his so called presidency HE said he wanted a civillian army as large and as well armed as the US army. This is fact if you aren’t too lazy to look it up. when obummer does this to start, what do you EXPECT people to think?? YOU are the one that needs meds!! You need to go follow the rabbits in your back yard and take the little smart pills they leave you!!!

      • 45caliber

        Last:

        Keep in mind that the powers that be don’t think they need the military or police. After all, they have control of the nuke button.

    • Bruce

      Roadkill,

      Man your way behind the curb. We have been living in ML, do the words, ((Yellow, Orange, and Red allert)) mean anything to you?

      Have you no grasp of what the “Patriot Act” is?
      How about you start looking into what a US flag with gold fringe on it means, thats a good start.
      How about you look into what FDR signed as an EO back in the 1930′s, or how about EO #1 from 1860 signed by old Honest Abe.
      Then we can start talking about ML.

      People will you ever wake up? I know some of you do get it, for you that do, this post is not aimed at you.

      • Tony

        FRINGE ON THE UNITED STATES FLAG

        Available evidence seems to suggest that the claims made about fringe on the United States flag are intended to promote the political ends — including elimination of income taxes, re-establishment of the gold standard, and denial of legal rights to women, non-Christians, and non-Caucasians — of those who spread those rumors.
        From the standpoint of history and law, fringe on a flag has no symbolism. While each individual is free to interpret the meaning of fringe, it has no inherent or established universal symbolism.
        While fringe is frequently used on military flags and in formal settings (parades, public meetings, offices of government officials, courts, inaugurations, dedication ceremonies, etc.), it is also widely used in the private sector. Examples of private usage of fringe on flags in the United States extend back for 200 years.
        Fringe is and always has been a purely decorative addition — an optional enhancement of the beauty of a flag, added on a discretionary basis when the flag is purchased. In the private sector and for non-military government uses, use of fringe is like the choice of polyester or nylon over cotton or wool for the flag itself — simply a matter of enhancing the appearance of the flag.
        Title Four of the “United States Code” which defines the Stars and Stripes neither prescribes nor proscribes the use of cords and tassels, heading, sleeve, fringe, and other accessories to the flag. It is universally recognized that the symbolic aspect of the flag is inherent in its colors and symbols, not in the physical characteristics of the flag or the things (like fringe) added to it when it is displayed.
        Admiralty courts deal only with maritime contracts, collisions at sea, and similar naval questions, not with normal civil and criminal cases. There is no symbol in the United States which indicates an admiralty court. While international treaties require that ships display the national flag, maritime flags never have fringe.
        Martial law is not mentioned in the United States constitution nor has martial law ever been proclaimed in the United States. The use or non-use of fringe on a United States flag in a court has nothing to do with the jurisdiction of the court or with martial law

        • Bruce

          Tony,

          A nice try but 100% wrong in all respects.

          The TRUTH is really quite simple it’s a “Military RULE” what is that agin?
          BTW- Thats not a opinion thats a fact. Thats why I noted it.

          Learn the meaning behind what you see in its “overt” mannor, then you can understand the “COVERT” message it sends to those that know.

          Now put down your tainted info and start digging up the TRUTH, all US flags seen in a Political setting from the Corporation of DC, aka, a CORPORATION not a Government is run by two factors,
          #1, The Military industrial Complex,
          #2, the Corporation’s that Pay’s #1, the most amount of MONEY to be members in the club.

          Now dig up your info from the “Library of Congress” and stop with the on line mindless rhetoric. I hope that I have cleared that up for you Tony.

          Just as Obama’s unique symbol he use’s, by the way do you know what it means, or why its used? Try finding that on line at WicIpeeindair.

          Just so you understand this the net has just as many positives as negitives.
          Thus you have to learn to “cross-reference” on many levels before you take anything as the TRUTH. Or just go to the Mountain and ask.
          Have a nice day…;-)

          • Tony

            Oh dear friend and knower of all, Please post where you received your information so that I may also be enlightened.

            Thank you.

      • eddie47d

        Thanks Tony for bringing up the correct meaning of the tassel or fringe on the flag. Conspiracies abound and everyone who can’t prove them desperately try and bring others into their fold. Innuendos and rumors become facts when these gatherings grow whether they are real or not. It’s like when Hitler told lies about the Jews and most endorsed the idea that they were the cause of all their ills in Germany. In Cambodia Pol Pot and his henchmen told the populace that those who were educated/intellectual were evil. That everyone had to to return to an agrarian culture to purify themselves of the sinister government.Thus school teachers were evil government employees and had to be killed. Does that sound familiar in the rights’s watered down version. Once in power the Khmer Rouge became the evil ones so it sickens me to listen to all those who want to over throw our government “to make things better”. Some advocate violence in doing so …so who should we be fearful of?

        • Bruce

          OMG Eddie,

          You will never wake up will you? Your post almost daily display some of the most outlandish thinking I have ever seen in print anywhere.

          You keep on working on it, and someday by the grace of God you will post something that has merit.

          Have a nice day Eddie, ;-)

          • Tony

            Yeah Eddie, it’s outlandish, almost as crazy as gold fringe on the flag, red dots on your mailbox, and white lines around stop signs.

          • Joe H.

            Bruce,
            you DID notice that eddie came on all “I knew all about that” AFTER somebody else had mentioned it, didn’t you???

        • Wil

          Ed,you did bring up a good point about Hitler and Pol Pot.Here we have the wannabe dictator Obama declaring Republicans the enemy and Christains evil.So what do we do to prevent that holocaust?

          • eddie47d

            Obama has never said that Christians are evil. Do you challenge the right when they say the Democrats are the enemy? The problem there is that neither side in Congress is moving this country forward so in essence they are both the enemy(if you insist on using that term).

          • 45caliber

            eddie:

            I’m not sure Oblama said Christians were evil but his administration certainly did. Or have you seen the list of “terrorists” dear Janet sent to the police departments awhile back? It included vets, military, Christians, gun lovers, and anyone who disagreed with Oblama. And I certainly consider terrorists as evil, don’t you?

          • eddie47d

            Including right wing terrorists who are plentiful.

          • Joe H.

            gee eddie, if you look back to the sixties, it was the progressive libbies that were and ARE the terrorists!!! The worst part of it is they are now in OFFICE!!!

        • eddie47d

          OMG Bruce! Outlandish thinking comes from the paranoids who are near and dear to you. Challenge their mental deficiencies and then you might have some credibility or merit. So maybe you aren’t one of those who attack American teachers as over paid commies or that progressives/intellectuals “need to be taken care of”. That environmentalists who fight for a clean environment are “terrorists” but those who pollute and sicken the landscape and people are “honorable” businessmen trying to make a buck. Both sides need to pay closer attention to what is really being said about each other instead of these false fears about the FCC. Almost every one of these comments is an outlandish statement so do you take them on?

          • Fozzysmom

            man you’re weird – but besides that – it’s 2:00 n the alert thing came across the tv but did’t do a thing to the internet, didn’t have radio on. …… and we paid for that #uck up too didn’t we?! man-got screwed again. ( it was suppose to interupt the internet too wasn’t it? )

          • Fozzysmom

            and before you say it, i live in the mid-west, they’re going by east coast time. it is 2:00 there.

          • eddie47d

            Isn’t it time you rode your horse into the sunset Fozzy the whole issue is utter nonsense and hardly worth getting anybodies dander up. When a real crises hits these commenter’s won’t know what hit them if they are freak-in out over this.

        • Art

          And now Obummer is telling everybody if your rich you are the enemy.

        • Joe H.

          eddie,
          I haven’t seen a single poster here say they wanted to overthrow the government. Put down the STP, dude it really DOESN’T lubricate the mind!!!

      • Tony

        Please note the date.
        Executive Order of Abraham Lincoln

        April 25, 1861

        Abraham Lincoln

        The American Presidency Project

        Lieutenant-General Scott

        MY DEAR SIR: The Maryland legislature assembles to-morrow at Annapolis, and not improbably will take action to arm the people of that State against the United States. The question has been submitted to and considered by me whether it would not be justifiable, upon the ground of necessary defense, for you, as General in Chief of the United States Army, to arrest or disperse the members of that body. I think it would not be justifiable nor efficient for the desired object.

        First. They have a clearly legal right to assemble, and we can not know in advance that their action will not be lawful and peaceful, and if we wait until they shall have acted their arrest or dispersion will not lessen the effect of their action.

        Secondly. We can not permanently prevent their action. If we arrest them, we can not long hold them as prisoners, and when liberated they will immediately reassemble and take their action; and precisely the same if we simply disperse them–they will immediately reassemble in some other place.

        I therefore conclude that it is only left to the Commanding General to watch and await their action, which, if it shall be to arm their people against the United States, he is to adopt the most prompt and efficient means to counteract, even, if necessary, to the bombardment of their cities and, in the extremest necessity, the suspension of the writ of habeas corpus.

        Your obedient servant,

        ABRAHAM LINCOLN.

        Read more at the American Presidency Project: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=70145#ixzz1dEwDNpK6

      • Tony

        Bruce,
        Which EO signed by FDR should I look at. Below are the ones from his first year in office, 1933.

        Franklin D. Roosevelt March 10, 1933 Executive Order 6073 – Reopening Banks
        Franklin D. Roosevelt March 27, 1933 Executive Order 6084 Consolidating Federal Farm Credit Agencies.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt March 28, 1933 Executive Order 6086 Establishing the Rio Grande Wild Life Refuge.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt March 31, 1933 Executive Order 6092 – Veterans Regulations No. 4: Protected Awards
        Franklin D. Roosevelt March 31, 1933 Executive Order 6093 – Veterans Regulation No. 5: Entitlement to Emergency Officers’ Retirement Pay
        Franklin D. Roosevelt April 5, 1933 Executive Order 6101 Starting The Civilian Conservation Corps.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt April 5, 1933 Executive Order 6102 – Requiring Gold Coin, Gold Bullion and Gold Certificates to Be Delivered to the Government
        Franklin D. Roosevelt April 20, 1933 Executive Order 6111 on Transactions in Foreign Exchange.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt May 25, 1933 Executive Order 6145 – Consolidating Government Agencies
        Franklin D. Roosevelt June 16, 1933 Executive Order 6173 on the N.R.A.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt June 16, 1933 Executive Order 6174 on Public Works Administration.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt June 26, 1933 Executive Order 6182 Regarding Administration of Farm Products.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt July 8, 1933 Executive Order 6198 Appointing Harold L. Ickes as Administrator of Public Works.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt July 11, 1933 Executive Order 6199 Regulating the Interstate Commerce of Petroleum.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt July 11, 1933 Executive Order 6202A Appointing the Executive Council.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt July 12, 1933 Executive Order 6203 Regarding Postmasters and Civil Service.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt July 14, 1933 Executive Order 6204 Regarding Interstate Commerce of Petroleum.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt July 15, 1933 Executive Order 6205A Delegating Some Presidential Powers to the Administrator for Industrial Recovery.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt July 15, 1933 Executive Order 6205B Regarding Exemptions from Codes.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt July 21, 1933 Executive Order 6209 Relating to Subsistence Homesteads.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt July 27, 1933 Executive Order 6226 Establishing a Central Statistical Board.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt August 10, 1933 Executive Order 6246 on Code Compliance and Government Purchases.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt August 19, 1933 Executive Order 6251 Designating the Federal Power Commission an Agency of the Public Works Administration.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt August 19, 1933 Executive Order 6252 on the Public Works Administration.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt August 19, 1933 Executive Order 6254. Approval of an N.R.A. Code.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt August 28, 1933 Executive Order 6260 on Hoarding and Exporting Gold.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt October 16, 1933 Executive Order 6340 Creating the Commodity Credit Corporation.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt October 17, 1933 Executive Order 6341 – Extension of Trust Period on Lands of the Morongo Band of Mission Indians
        Franklin D. Roosevelt October 23, 1933 Executive Order 6354 on Exemptions from the President’s Reemployment Agreement.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt October 23, 1933 Executive Order 6355 Limiting the Effect of the N.R.A.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt October 25, 1933 Executive Order 6360 – Authorization to Appoint Mr. Wade Crawford
        Franklin D. Roosevelt November 9, 1933 Executive Order No. 6420B
        Franklin D. Roosevelt November 17, 1933 Executive Order 6433-A – Creation of the National Emergency Council
        Franklin D. Roosevelt November 22, 1933 Executive Order No. 6443.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt November 29, 1933 Executive Order No. 6470 The Creation of the Public Works Emergency Housing Corporation.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt December 4, 1933 Executive Order No. 6474 Creation of the Federal Alcohol Control Administration.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt December 16, 1933 Executive Order No. 6511 Powers of the National Labor Board Are Increased.
        Franklin D. Roosevelt December 19, 1933 Executive Order No. 6513
        Franklin D. Roosevelt December 19, 1933 Executive Order No. 6514

  • dv

    This and the new chip in all cell phones that allows for govt alerts. I really don’t know what we are to do. And the new broadband over electric lines interferes with short wave I believe. They are not worried about fixing the electric grid just having broadband overlay so we can be contacted or watched that way as well. All for our safety and security, but is it??

  • CP

    DV, believe you need to study electronics a bit more before sounding off on what will kill shortwave communications. Also, I have heard of places talking about broadband over the power lines, but apparently it didn’t pan out, as none of the electrical co-ops are playing with it now. I know the area I live in would be a great place to use that, if it worked.

    • Earl

      In reference to the post on Broadband over power lines (BPL), I was tried, and it caused so much interference that it was for the most part dropped. There are a few systems still in existence, for now……

  • dv

    Hardly a sound off just read about the short wave lobby having issues with this the other day

    • Bruce

      DV, Look in to the sight called ( SOLAR HAM. Com ) Please crunch it all together when you do your google search, this sight will aid you in understaning the basic how’s and why’s.

      Also look into ( RED ICE CREATION. COM ) for more info.

  • http://bellsouth.net Gene

    another reason to break out the smoke signal blankets and revive the code talkers or either practice your Goose steps!

  • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

    A takeover to broadcast martial law? probebly so. As far as short-wave radio, they have been able to track that for generations so they’re not worried, they can home in on the broadcaster and shut you down as they’re hauling you butt to re-education camps. If they don’t like what someone says on any communication system they can shut it down and the word never gets out. sounds like communism to me.

    • eddie47d

      Then you would have a reason for an uprising . Now you all are only blowing smoke up each others posteriors. “The only thing to fear is fear itself” and you are all running scared. The Patriot Act can be scary and this FCC alert is only a test. Learn to differentiate between real fear and self imposed fear. Most on this site can’t over emphasize enough to Be Prepared but when the government wants to be prepared with a simple test you go bonkers. Some say North Korea and Iran want to Nuke us(not necessarily true either)but if they did would you want to be alerted nationally or would you rather find out after the bombs have dropped.

      • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

        I,m not running scared just facing facts, every time “the gov. comes to help” we wind uin more trouble than we started with.

      • Fozzysmom

        we’re not runnin’ sceard dingbat. this is an exchange of ideas n thoughts, on random topics n inquiry. aaannd, why does the govmt feel it needs a COMPLETE take over in this manner and multitude? it’s worked just fine the way it is for years. north korea’s an idiot and iran is totally insane. so yes, there’s a good chance of it. thanks to obozo goin’ around the world bowing down n bending over, with all his ‘i’m sorry for the US – i’m sorry for the US’ – to the other nations. i’m thinkin’ this probly inbouldened other nations to think …. well, maybe we can. no, we’re not sceard, we just know idiots when we see or hear them.

      • TML

        “Some say North Korea and Iran want to Nuke us(not necessarily true either)but if they did would you want to be alerted nationally or would you rather find out after the bombs have dropped.”

        Then wouldn’t you say that this system being tested is developed out of fear by the governement officials? And what benefit would it be to alert the general populace of an impending nuclear bomb? Would it not cause mass hysteria? Is it to give people time to pray? Time to get to their standard issue bomb shelters? Sorry, friend, but opposition to this kind of system run by the federal government, and it’s potential for abuse, is not a fear at all. It’s a reality. There is no rationalizing a benefit of security for the American people.

        As a great man once said… those who give up a little liberty for…. well, you know how it goes.

        • eddie47d

          Now TML is saying the government has no business in being prepared in the defense of America. I thought that was one of the few things in the Constitution. We need to get the hell out of the Middle East and stop waring against the world. Build up our defenses in the homeland and be prepared. If you don’t like the government taking precautionary measures within the homeland then you must love their actions against the rest of the world. Be cautious but leave the fear mongering out.

          • TML

            “Now TML is saying the government has no business in being prepared in the defense of America.”

            That’s not what I’m saying at all… in fact, I agree that we should get out of the middle east and stop waring against the world. Build up our defense in our country. It is the fearmongering which leads people to support American intervention of other countries and war with them. What I am saying, and you failed to address… is that such a system is not in anyway making us more secure. Can you please give me one single viable use of such a system? The one you already gave about a nuclear attack, is rather bogus, as I’ve pointed out.

            FYI… I’m not afraid of our governement, or other countries having nuclear weapons at all… I believe they fear us, which is why such a system is being put in place.

          • Joe H.

            TML,
            I sure am glad you answered that, as I didn’t see you said that and I read your post over three times to be sure! ‘Course eddie IS real good at putting words into peoples computers, so to speak!!!

      • Earl

        Eddie47, you will know real fear soon enough, so instead of trying to refute everyone on this blog, why don’t you ask more questions and listen to the answers. I for one, have been involved at some level in the patriot community for 30 years-in that amount of time, you DO learn a few truths….BTW, I’m 67, been around awhile!

        • eddie47d

          I ask lots of questions and few get answered. They don’t want to challenge themselves. Another thing is that I get refuted now and then and sometimes I’m wrong. It would be nice to see more honesty and admission here on the “other side”. There is one guy Joe H. who never says much but only adds a half dozen insulting words to those he doesn’t agree with. Take care now.

          • Joe H.

            Glad to know you appreciate me eddie!!!

        • charli chikn lady

          thank you earl……. i AM scared…. and an old fart like you – or at least at the approval of the calendar! and i’ll admit again…. i am scared! i don’t want to be hauled off from my home and gardens and farm animals. i fear the goats would not know how to go to the feed room and get their corn! we are SO low-key….. we don’t even own a cel phone. i get to stay at home and grow food and care for animals and cut grass. we don’t go out to eat hardly ever!! i have done SO much canning this year – even purchased a pressure canner, learned how to use it and DID use it this past summer….. a LOT!!! got lots of cabbage, turnip and collard greens growin’ in the garden now. along with onions, garlic and brussel sprouts. yeah….. i’m scared. bought as much ammo as we could afford this year. wasn’t much. no money. takes all hubby makes to pay the bills, buy FOOD, feed and gas. no jobs here in the country – especially when we have OLD vehicles that cannot make it to a job that’s 30 miles away… yeah….. i’m scared. certainly couldn’t BUY another vehicle…. still no money. our only hope is that i live with my husband who grew up right on this property and knows the woods and swamp real well… hope we can get there before SHTF. again…. thanks for the shoulder….. i’m still scared. i’m just sayin’…….. god bless

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        From what you are saying, I’m not sure if I’m understanding it right.

        Are you basically saying, “Until you have a reason for an uprising you should not worry about what they are doing”?

        I think our point is that we would like to discourage them in what they are doing BEFORE they do something to give us a reason for an uprising.

        • eddie47d

          It’s all an assumption and not based on known facts.I can assume that Colorado will have an earthquake tomorrow(almost never do)and worry myself sick over it. That is what is being done right here.

    • Fozzysmom

      WELL SH%T !!

      • eddie47d

        You are doing a fine job of proving yourself in the fear department and you are so overexposed in it. Like wearing a big red cape that will allow them to pick you out real easy. The men in the white coats will now accept your application to their “resort”.

        • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

          by your coments I feel you are the one who’s scared, afraid the men in white coats are on your doorstep?

          • Joe H.

            1911man
            Truth be known, eddie is more scared of it than we are. That’s why he won’t admit it could happen. To admit it might happen scares the crap out of HIM!!! Don’t let him fool you.

        • Tony

          Entertaining aren’t they?

          • Fozzysmom

            yes, we are.

        • Fozzysmom

          eeeww- sorry about that carpet thing, sounds like it didn’t turn out too good for ya. and that’s very clever, trying to get someone to try something that you know is going to fail. play fair now. and those guys in the white coats, they’re a pretty fun bunch of guys. you can tell ‘em anything and they won’t tell anybody – they said so! as far as being sceard …. nope, don’t think so. was raised w/4 brothers, trained horses, sorted at sale barns, operated heavy equipmt., gone deer hunting-(didn’t find any)- and held the hand of my best friend in the world, for the last 6 mo. of her life, till she passed from cancer. ED- there just isn’t too much in this world to get too excited about … let alone be afraid of. so come on eddie, stand up – put some pants on – climb those stairs – lets get out of that basement! get some fresh air in those lungs! you can do it man! i’m rootin’ for ya!

        • eddie47d

          Love the humor Fozzy and I can handle that. Worked outside for 40 straight years and got plenty of fresh air thank you. I love being outside and make a point of it each and everyday. Help my neighbors and work outside at my church once a week. You are correct though my computer is in the basement. LOL

          • Fozzysmom

            good goin’ -( i knew it was in the basement ).

          • Joe H.

            fozzysmom,
            Yup and it covered with moss!!!

  • http://personalliberty larry

    BETTER BE LOCKED AND LOADED IS ALL I CAN SAY.

  • jopa

    Did any of you think this may give the government the ability to communicate with you in a time of crisis and save your dumb ass.

    • Les

      This worked just fine at the state and local level until now. This will end badly just as the Patriot Act has for America. Nothing the Federal Government has ever set up hasn’t been misused by them. They tamper with everything until it is bloated with more Federal Workers and then broken to the point of useless.

      • Joe H.

        Les,
        True that! just look at the post office and social security!!

    • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

      the only crisis were the gov. would need to broadcast to the entire nation noone would probebly survive anyway. Nuclear war? a planetoid hitting the earth? what?

    • Opal the Gem

      jopa………..Why would I in the middle of the US need to be told the exact same information as those in Kalifornia, the Dakotas, New York, Florida and so forth and why would they need to be told something that applies to us in the middle of the US but not to them?

      • eddie47d

        Nice try but no Gem Opal!

        • Opal the Gem

          Come back when you actualy have something to say eddie.

        • eddie47d

          Double Ditto!

    • Art

      Yea, the government is going to save me like they save the people of New Orleans

    • JLC

      Jopa — My father was full-blooded Apache. My people, on his side of the family, learned long ago- the hard way – just how far Great White Father an be trusted. By the way, I am no spring chicken. I am a WWII veteran and have seen 16 presidents come and 15 go.

      • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

        JLC, I just wanted to thank you for serving in the military that saved the world from total dictatership. I appreciate living in a free world , and am hoping my young’uns will be able to say the same.

  • Freddie

    Jopa,

    Yes, but with great power comes responsible use of it. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Many in our nation have set aside the knowledge of how to meet all of their own needs and passed this along to most of our population; not being able to provide the absolute basics of food, water, and shelter.

  • Melody

    I am really at the point where I hate the people in government. Our government system is not the problem, it is the people who are in these postitions that are the problem. Now that we know what these people in the government are doing and how they are doing it, how are we going to stop it??? People get involved, write letters, expose what you see and find, and please support people who are willing to stand up for you and the freedoms we cherish.

  • Joyceann

    Patriots of the constiution will unite. We fought the british and we will fight this takeover too. We are on home ground. This is our America and we have awaken. Unite. As more people see the truth, the stronger we become.

    • eddie47d

      Whats being taken over Joyceann? It’s a short test and then you can go back to your soap opera! According to the Constitution (and many of you say this) is that the governments job is to keep America safe and to protect it’s citizens. So are you awake enough to know this test is for the benefit of your protection and the protection of all Americans. Do you know real fear such as in battle or are you making up this fear to look patriotic and heroic. I can’t even imagine how you would react during the Soviet/USA tensions in the 50′s. If you are paranoid now I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near you back then. Did you comment from your bomb shelter?

      • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

        look, most of us are not scared or cowering fearfully in a bomb shelter, we know this is a test, we are just saying this is another tool for possible use to control information whenever the gov.wants to use it, which means more control of the people.

      • Fozzysmom

        i think eddie47d needs to get off his soap box n take his lib. as# back to the beltway.

        • eddie47d

          Both you and 1911 are proving my point. LOL

          • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

            yea he is scared.

          • Fozzysmom

            yep- he’s got that nevous laugh commin’ on now.

          • Joe H.

            eddie,
            you talk of fear in battle like you know it. Where did YOU fight??

      • Opal the Gem

        ” So are you awake enough to know this test is for the benefit of your protection and the protection of all Americans.”

        And just what event would be so important that all radio and TV would need to be taken over by the feds? Just what kind of emergency would need broadcasting to the whole US at the same time?

        • eddie47d

          If you can’t figure that out then you need to go back to remedial.

          • Dennis48e

            If you cannot answer her question you need to “go back to remedial.

          • Fozzysmom

            HA-HA

        • eddie47d

          Who says future tests or activation would be national. Why waste money this time on separate tests if the whole nation was going to be tested? Not every emergency will be in one state but could be regional as in hurricanes,flooding or earthquakes. Yet if there is a national alert that does need to be made then the nation is prepared.

          • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

            then why change from the existing state run system that has worked until now?

          • eddie47d

            One state is not necessarily going to inform another state. Too many assumptions with your statement. We should known what is going to happen in an emergency not assume than things will be taken care of by someone else.

          • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

            so your telling me that we can’t trust the state gov. to keep us informed in an emergency that they all can see comming,but,the fed will save us from the same disaster. that makes no sense.

          • Joe H.

            1911man,
            Trust me, I’m from the government and I’m here to help!! If you hear those words, run like hell!!!!

          • JeffH

            Joe H., my thoughts exactly!

      • charli chikn lady

        eddie47d – i’m new here but have done LOTS of reading… during the Soviet/USA tensions – we KNEW WHO the enemy was… NOT the case today. Not with our present leadership. You’d better HOPE you have a bomb shelter or an old root cellar to go hide away in when the FOREIGN MILITARY comes to get your azz ’cause YOU had a blue dot on yer mailbox. Better make it deep and underground ’cause those boys are gonna heat-seek your azz and away ya go!!!! and they won’t be speaking ENGLISH ’cause OUR SERVICE PEOPLE WILL NOT do what the gov’t wants done. know something about the GEORGIA GUIDESTONES? google it and SEE what the CORRECT population of the world “should” be… ya think there aren’t enuf ubber-rich to make this happen? scary when it just might come down to just FIFTEEN people ruining our party! just sayin’ god bless

        • eddie47d

          Actually that would make it more imperative since no one knows when or who would attacks so the information has to be given out quickly and to everyone. The World Trade Center collaspe only happened in NYC but did affect the whole nation. No one knew upfront how serious it was and some treated it like a regular news story and went about their business. I’m not sure if Americans could even handle a real crises.

  • charli chikn lady

    BRUCE! the yellow/orange/red alerts aren’t the problem!! be on the look out for the red/blue/yellow DOT on yer mailbox… that’s when the problem happens….
    REX & JOYCE from LORIS! WATCH!! The POTUS HAS to declare “state of emergency” FIRST AND BEFORE martial law… when THAT happens – get to yer “hidey-hole”, hunker down and lock and load!

  • Tony

    Oh what a scary world some of you live in. Always thinking everyone is out to get you.

    Of course you know the Government monitors sites like this 24/7 so they know who all of you are and you will be the first to be hauled off to the FEMA Camps.

    What’s it like to live in Fear? Ever have any fun at all?

    • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

      I don’t know what it’s like to live in fear and as far as monitoring this site’ since the patriot act they monitor every aspect of your life so they know who all of us are.

      • eddie47d

        Then some of you need to stop acting like it.

        • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

          put your blinders on and go back to sleep.

          • eddie47d

            Ditto!

      • Tony

        Do you have a cell phone? Internet, Radio, TV, GPS and Navigation for your car, On Star or Sync, Credit Cards or bank accounts. In the electronic age all of these items can be used to track you down. But the government doesn’t MAKE you use them. The American people decide to use them.

        • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

          my point exactally they can trace every aspect of your life. and try to live in this modern age without a bank acct. or some of these other things. they dont make you use them they just make it almost immpossible not to.

          • Joe H.

            1911m1n,
            you might have the reason the unemployment rate is always lower than actual. the people that have exhausted their benefits and don’t have work probably don’t have a bank account, a cell phone or a gps. They can’t track them!! Lucky at least in THAT!!

  • Joey Biden

    The only broadcast I want to hear is “Obama has left the building”(WH)

    • Fozzysmom

      AMEN TO THAT !!!

    • Joe H.

      Joey Biden,
      I haven’t drank alcohol in almost 30 years, but I’d drink to that!!!!

  • Dr Dave

    Perhaps these OWS demonstrations are just the smouldering embers before a totally involved house fire. Someone keeps pushing the demonstrators into more and more acts of violence. How long before the violence becomes cause for emergency action? Look around, someone is driving these riots, whether it be the unions, govt thugs, or other unknown troublemakers. The escalation will cause a govt response, dissension will not be tolerated.

    • Fozzysmom

      that’s what obozo and his kronies and others are hopeing for. phase II.

  • dv

    What marks on the mailbox? Is it for real or theory

    • charli chikn lady

      dv – google US FEMA Camps and read, read, read – or LISTEN to all the “spots” on the subject… jesse ventura is MAD!!! my BROTHER has seen the black boxes near his house in newborn GA. haven’t talked to him lately – but he said a man in their “lodge” works for FEMA and he was gonna ask what were the boxes for… does not look good for us… and to boot – WHY would FEMA order SO MANY mre’s? yeah, yeah they ARE a “rescue” outfit (ha!) – but they have never obtained SO MANY of this type of survival food before… nor black boxes… just sayin’ god bless

    • Tony

      If you have a red dot on your mailbox it means you are marked to be exucuted, Blue means you’re going to a FEMA Camp and yellow means you are serving the country, or something like that. Not sure what it means if you don’t have any dots.

      • eddie47d

        I better not let my grandson play with those colored circular stickers. He may make me a marked man.LOL.

        • Fozzysmom

          kids will do the darndest things.

        • Tony

          Yeah, a foreign military might show up at your door at 4:00AM and execute you.

          • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

            hillory and obama are still pushing the u.n. small arms treaty, read it.

          • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

            not that i beleive in the dots, they don’t need such things in a hi tech world

  • Templar

    I sure hope right will survive. What’s wrong with these crazy people. To coin a phase ” can’t we all just get along”??? When you fall away from God, you fall away. Choose your friends carefully.

  • Kerry Good

    How did Clinton’s get away with murdering Vince Foster and obama got away with killing his crack smoking queer boyfriends Donald Young and Larry Sinclair? How come a RAZA UNITA woman terrorist become a Supreme Court Justice and a woman clerk that blocked Obamas Birth Certificate lawsuit to Supreme court both become Justices under Obama?

    • charli chikn lady

      kerry – GOOD POINTS!!!! ALL this stuff just to go along with the grand AGENDA!!! sounds like YOU got a grip on things… just like all the gov’t DOJ guys that have been “promoted” to D.C. sos “they” can keep an eye on them to keep all the details of “fast & furious” from coming to light… the whole deal was to show how stupid americans are that we would “let” guns be bought and “walked” across the mexico border. all just to PROVE that we the people are too stupid to own firearms… an unarmed populice will “go peacefully” wherever “they” want you to go – capishe? like i said…. get low, get covered to heat-seek, lock and load, be vigilant! just sayin’… god bless

    • eddie47d

      Kerry’s points were lame at best. Yes Chickn Lady,Fast and Furious was a debacle. Fox News.com just said that the ATF admitted selling 1,026 weapons to the Sinaloa drug cartel. The paper today said that 80,000 guns have been retrieved from Mexico that were involved in crimes. 64,000 have been traced to American dealers. That leaves 62,974 which were sold by private dealers in the USA without the “help” of the ATF. The ATF certainly screwed up but what are you going to do about those rouge dealers stirring up trouble on the border.

      • http://patriotdepot.com 1911man

        that was only one of the many cartels in mexico

      • Joe H.

        yeah, eddie, and your man(?) holder still won’t admit he knew about it!! Even with papers with his name on them. Instead he tries to cut the throats of the people under him!! I say if he knew about it, fire him, and if he didn’t, fire him for dereliction of duty!!!

      • independant thinker

        “The paper today said that 80,000 guns have been retrieved from Mexico that were involved in crimes. 64,000 have been traced to American dealers. That leaves 62,974 which were sold by private dealers in the USA without the “help” of the ATF. The ATF certainly screwed up but what are you going to do about those rouge dealers stirring up trouble on the border.”

        What paper was that report in eddie? It was NOT in any of the papers I read.

        • Joe H.

          I T,
          Probably The Globe, Midnight Magazine, or the Azzwipe Herald!!!

        • Buster the Anatolian

          eddie cannot provide a source so he is obviously telling lies once again.

  • Tony

    About the Gold Fringe on the American Flag
    Gold fringe is used on the National flag as an honorable enrichment only. It is not regarded as an integral part of the flag and its use does not constitute an unauthorized addition to the design prescribed by statutes.

    Records of the Department of the Army indicate that fringe was used on the National flag as early as 1835 and its official use by the Army dates from 1895. There is no record of an Act of Congress or Executive Order which either prescribes or prohibits the addition of fringe, nor is there any indication that any symbolism was ever associated with it. The use of fringe is optional with the person or organization displaying the flag.

    A 1925 Attorney General’s Opinion (34 Op. Atty. Gen 483) states:

    “The fringe does not appear to be regarded as an integral part of the flag, and its presence cannot be said to constitute an unauthorized additional to the design prescribed by statute. An external fringe is to be distinguished from letters, words, or emblematic designs printed or superimposed upon the body of the flag itself. Under the law, such additions might be open to objection as unauthorized; but the same is not necessarily true of the fringe.”

    It is customary to place gold fringe on silken (rayon-silk-nylon) National flags that are carried in parades, used in official ceremonies, and displayed in offices, merely to enhance the beauty of the flag. The use of fringe is not restricted to the Federal Government. Such flags are used and displayed by our Armed Forces, veterans, civic and civilian organizations, and private individuals. However, it is the custom not to use fringe on flags displayed from stationary flagpoles and, traditionally, fringe has not been used on internment flags.

  • Tony

    http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-order/10834.html
    Executive Order 10834–The flag of the United States

    Source: The provisions of Executive Order 10834 of Aug. 21, 1959, appear at 24 FR 6865, 3 CFR, 1959-1963 Comp., p. 367, unless otherwise noted.

    WHEREAS the State of Hawaii has this day been admitted into the Union; and

    WHEREAS section 2 of title 4 of the United States Code provides as follows: “On the admission of a new State into the Union one star shall be added to the union of the flag; and such addition shall take effect on the fourth day of July then next succeeding such admission.”; and

    WHEREAS the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949 (63 Stat. 377), as amended, authorizes the President to prescribe policies and directives governing the procurement and utilization of property by executive agencies; and

    WHEREAS the interests of the Government require that orderly and reasonable provision be made for various matters pertaining to the flag and that appropriate regulations governing the procurement and utilization of national flags and union jacks by executive agencies be prescribed:

    NOW, THEREFORE, by virtue of the authority vested in me as President of the United States and as Commander in Chief of the armed forces of the United States, and the Federal Property and Administrative Services Act of 1949, as amended, it is hereby ordered as follows:

    Part I–Design of the Flag

    Section 1. The flag of the United States shall have thirteen horizontal stripes, alternate red and white, and a union consisting of white stars on a field of blue.

    Sec. 2. The positions of the stars in the union of the flag and in the union jack shall be as indicated on the attachment to this order, which is hereby made a part of this order.

    Sec. 3. The dimensions of the constituent parts of the flag shall conform to the proportions set forth in the attachment referred to in section 2 of this order.

    Part II–Regulations Governing Executive Agencies

    Sec. 21. The following sizes of flags are authorized for executive agencies:

    Sec. 22. Flags manufactured or purchased for the use of executive agencies:
    (a) Shall conform to the provisions of Part I of this order, except as may be otherwise authorized pursuant to the provisions of section 24, or except as otherwise authorized by the provisions of section 21, of this order.
    (b) Shall conform to the provisions of section 21 of this order, except as may be otherwise authorized pursuant to the provisions of section 24 of this order.

    Sec. 23. The exterior dimensions of each union jack manufactured or purchased for executive agencies shall equal the respective exterior dimensions of the union of a flag of a size authorized by or pursuant to this order. The size of the union jack flown with the national flag shall be the same as the size of the union of that national flag.

    Sec. 24. (a) The Secretary of Defense in respect of procurement for the Department of Defense (including military colors) and the Administrator of General Services in respect of procurement for executive agencies other than the Department of Defense may, for cause which the Secretary or the Administrator, as the case may be, deems sufficient, make necessary minor adjustments in one or more of the dimensions or proportionate dimensions prescribed by this order, or authorize proportions or sizes other than those prescribed by section 3 or section 21 of this order.
    (b) So far as practicable, (1) the actions of the Secretary of Defense under the provisions of section 24(a) of this order, as they relate to the various organizational elements of the Department of Defense, shall be coordinated, and (2) the Secretary and the Administrator shall mutually coordinate their actions under that section.

    Sec. 25. Subject to such limited exceptions as the Secretary of Defense in respect of the Department of Defense, and the Administrator of General Services in respect of executive agencies other than the Department of Defense, may approve, all national flags and union jacks now in the possession of executive agencies, or hereafter acquired by executive agencies under contracts awarded prior to the date of this order, including those so possessed or so acquired by the General Services Administration for distribution to other agencies, shall be utilized until unserviceable.

    Part III–General Provisions

    Sec. 31. The flag prescribed by Executive Order No. 10798 of January 3, 1959, shall be the official flag of the United States until July 4, 1960, and on that date the flag prescribed by Part I of this order shall become the official flag of the United States; but this section shall neither derogate from section 24 or section 25 of this order nor preclude the procurement, for executive agencies, or flags provided for by or pursuant to this order at any time after the date of this order.

    Sec. 32. As used in this order, the term “executive agencies” means the executive departments and independent establishments in the executive branch of the Government, including wholly-owned Government corporations.

    Sec. 33. Executive Order No. 10798 of January 3, 1959, is hereby revoked.

    ——————————————————————————–

    Editorial note: The attachment detailing the proportions of the constituent parts of the flag, which was attached to and made a part of Executive Order 10834, is printed in 3 CFR, 1959-1963 Comp., p. 368.

    ——————————————————————————–

  • Eddie

    This was NOT a Test…This was a DEMONSTRATION!

    • Fozzysmom

      you worded that correctly.

  • dv

    I agree. If it were a test it would have not been when basically every one was awake. Who knows it could have. already been tested without actually visually taken systems down. I wonder if this is a reason why everything is digital now. Probably easier to control all at once

  • TheMessenger/Prophet/Elder=Mehujael

    I have a feeling they will be coming for me for writing this but isn’t everyone Entitled to their opinions? To whom it may concern,
    while this is off the subject it does pertain to the overall well being of the peoples today as well? This is an excerpt I have written to another website but it fits here too. I have a funny feeling this electrical outage being possibly proclaimed will not be of any celestial nature but rather man made. As you have been notified, our own ships presently sit off the Florida coastline with the capabilities of releasing such a mechanism to control the peoples! Our overseas forces are being brought back to the U.S. in excessive numbers right now subversively. When will the American peoples wake up to the fact of while you wait for a peaceful resolution the other side is taking the necessary steps to resolve matters in a different way with their perceived outcome to be accomplished rather than yours. A peace accord under a false flag so to speak as the American peoples wait peacefully until it becomes too late for you? It is in fact how the odds of one winning are increased. I have also written concerning the H.A.A.R.P. and all its capabilities of weather control as well. It was built in Canada to keep it from your reach. Those of you who have stored food for the long haul and plan to hide, will eventually be found by the gardens you plant to sustain oneself that is if your weather isn’t controlled by this contraption. You must also understand we are not the only ones who have this mechanism of the H.A.A.R.P. as other countries have it as well? So then this must mean they have come to an agreement in these G-20 Summits to use these sources to reduce total populations of peoples throughout the world as a whole? Will you wake up to late as the G-D of my Fathers has spoken why back when you chose a king instead of HIM to wit: He told you of all the calamities which would come upon you and your children during the latter days and HE would not help you because you have left HIM for another? Now would be a good time to reconsider as, if you would have kept the original ways, then this calamity wouldn’t have been allowed to even bud? Who knows maybe HE may elect to spare a few more?

    Mehujael

  • Marlene

    How would I know if they used the EAS system, or whatever? I rarely turn on my computer during the day, except on saturday and Sundays to watch ball games or golf, but I don’t like the government horning in on our privacy. Not one tiny iota.

  • Bill B

    Do YOU know any DROOLING TOTALITARIAN PSYCHOPATH in the White House who will LOVE having this power? Hint: Think Communist father, Weather Underground protege, New (Socialist) Party member, has friends in Hamas and the PLO, admires Hugo Chavez’s CENSORSHIP and thinks thugs “Occupying Wall Street” are great!

  • AJ

    Well sleeping Sheepeole welcome to the NWO. Yes S.C. George Orwells timing was off a little, but he was definitely right.

  • Joe

    another example of government ineffectiveness, Oh yes. It is a complete joke. O has done nothing right since he was elected. Can’t understand why 43% of the population is still in favor of him for 2012 Guess you cannot fix stupid!

  • Leah

    I was watching tv at that time and I never saw the test. Did anyone see it?

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