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Fate Of START Treaty Likely To Be Decided This Week

December 22, 2010 by  

Fate of START treaty likely to be decided this weekGOP leaders have vowed to block the passing of a new treaty between the United States and Russia, while Democrats have claimed that they have the necessary votes to pass the measure.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has scheduled a procedural vote for START (Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty) on Dec. 21, while President Barack Obama has delayed his Christmas vacation in Hawaii in order to lobby Senators to back the legislation, which would reduce the number of nuclear weapons in both Russia and the U.S.

Democrats have indicated that they have the 67 votes needed to approve the treaty, which would include at least nine Republicans. Obama is pushing for the ratification during the lame-duck session because the GOP will gain seats in the Senate in January.

Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said that he does not support the treaty, and he believes the administration is trying to rush the implementation of a policy without fully revealing its implications.

"The administration has taken the same cart-before-the-horse approach on the treaty before us," said McConnell, quoted by FOX News. "We had to rush this treaty, according to the logic of the administration because it had become an important component in the effort to 'reset' the bilateral relationship with the Russian Federation. It was brought up for debate prematurely because it was the first step in a pre-determined arms control agenda."

Other issues that the Senate is set to address before the session ends is a continuing resolution to fund the Federal government until March, as well as a healthcare bill for Sept. 11 emergency workers. 

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  • Effin Reed Tard

    Once again the Republican Party shows it’s impotency. Nine Republicans are voting for the treaty…..

    The Republicans could stop the treaty if they were united. The GOP sure has a big “tent” ! What a bunch of wimps ….

    • Concerned American

      yup, magically they come up with 67 votes…. 67 votes should be impossible. Cloture is one thing, majority vote (51) is another. But 67 votes? really?

      Powerful forces control our government. These forces choose those representatives that will betray the American people and ensure only they get elected. At elections, we always have a choice between tweedle dee and tweedle dum. Until more real “Mom and Pop, down to earth people” like Ron Paul get into congress, we are screwed.

      • eddie47d

        I bet Ron Paul would have voted for the Start Treaty.Doing the right thing for a better world is a plus not a negative like you seem to be saying. It’s one thing to leave a nation defenseless and another to keep pushing for overkill. Reduce our arsenal to a sensible level and make sure the remaining weapons are 100% ready. This treaty is a plus and can be re-negotiated like the last one.

    • Arthur

      You are right of course and what a shame…America elected a communist for president and the term “Democratic Party” is code for “communist”…
      (see pictures of Washington Mall to see who attended their function)
      Given this set of facts, is there any wonder that our country is becoming weaker, our traditions are becoming lost and our values as a nation have been completely undermined by these scum ????

    • http://?? Joe H.

      effin,
      rather than just complain, why don’t you do something useful and post the names of the nine repubs that are turncoats and have deserted their constituancy?

  • BGinTN.

    The 11 Republican senators who voted in favor of moving ahead with the treaty were Richard G. Lugar (Ind.), Lamar Alexander (Tenn.), Robert F. Bennett (Utah), Scott Brown (Mass.), Thad Cochran (Miss.), Susan Collins (Maine), Bob Corker (Tenn.), Johnny Isakson (Ga.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Olympia J. Snowe (Maine) and George V. Voinovich (Ohio).

    There is no Republican leadership in D. C.. No, all that is there now, is what is left of the, ” Imperial Congress. ” We will replace more of them in 2012 along with the President & a whole lot more Democrats. The Tea Party is not finished we have just begun.

    In his statement Sen. Lindsey Graham gives away the game. He says, “I can understand the Democrats being afraid of the new Republicans; I can’t understand Republicans being afraid of the new Republicans.”

    It will take several election cycles to get rid of these turn coat RINOS. Lindsey doesn’t think he is one, but yeah——he is.

    That’s a real roll call of all the RINOs and squishy cons. Our Tennessee two-steppers, Alexander and Corker, like to vote with the Dems about a fifth of the time to show how “reasonable” they are.

    Lame Duck Republican traitors. These people are tools and fools for Obama and John “Lurch” Kerry. It’s a bad treaty and gives Obama another undeserved win.

    • Teresa

      I am ashamed of my representives here in Tenn. I have called and written them both of my outrage over their actions in congress over the lame duck session. It is still and always will be US the PEOPLE they work for and WE will be heard, their days are numbered for this WE will remember.

    • Bus

      High time to get rid of the lame duck period. I hope the new congress tries all these turncoats for treason.

      • BobbyB

        It should be lame something that rhymes with duck and begins with an F~

    • M

      There will no election in 2012. It will all be over with by that time, and what is in place now – will advance into a far greater evil. The fate that awaits this country will make Stalin of USSR, Hitler of Germany, and the idol of many in this country, Tse-Tung of China look like mere school yard bullies.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      BGinTN,
      thanks, although I knew the names and had Emailed Voinobich, I thought the names should be listed! It’s not real helpful when they gripe about it and then don’t list the names of the perps!

  • Concerned American

    well based on that video circulating around, America will collapse and expierence hyperinflation next year in 2011. So, at best, we can hope on a Civil war where China and Russia mop up after we gut each other. At worst, there is no civil war and “1984″ is really “2011″.

    America was an accident. America wasn’t supposed to happen. We are slightly evolved chimps. Chimps will beat and rape chimps from rival tribes. Humans aren’t much deeper. Time to go back to our natural state of darkness, tyranny, despair, and evil.

    • eddie47d

      Two lumps of coal will be under the Christmas tree for you this year….doom and gloom at it’s finest.

    • BobbyB

      I hate to say it, but that’s a pretty honest assessment. America was and is an experiment that’s gone horribly awry. With us though, it’s not survival of the fittest. It’s survival of the most rotten, unscrupulous scum bags that think they are the fittest due to their total lack of regard for anyone but themselves. We presently have about 528 or 529 running our country.

      There’s only one way to deal with them and it won’t be pretty~

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    The usual list of Rinos. I am surprised Lindsey Graham wasn’t on the list. I am disappointed in Scott Brown, I had high hopes for him. Well, we have the chance to further thin the herd in 2 yrs., if the country can last that long. I guess we’re starting to see the results of all those raw FBI files Hillary pilfered while first lady. Can you say blackmail ? By the way, what ever happened to Craig Livingston ?

  • M

    This country is foreign owned and controlled. We own nothing. They have taken our land, our money, and every day we lose more freedom. We have little to no military to protect anything anymore. The tanks will roll up on our shores, and genocide will be next. We are not liked, feared, needed, or wanted in this world anymore.

    No one has done anything to stop this. But, they still expect our money and votes.

    And, Obama still reigns……

    • eddie47d

      You are somewhat right to say that America is foreign owned and controlled but to lay lay it all on Obama is pure hideous. I think the conservatives have drank the whole “bottle of stupid” and then stumbled off the cliff. Lumps of coal for everyone …….Merry Christmas.

      • M

        You need to read what I wrote again. I concur. All of it is not Obama – it’s all of them. Obama is just being allowed to steamroll us right into oblivion – no problem.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          M,
          Obama isn’t just being allowed, he is relishing the job!!

  • TIME

    Folks Scott Brown is little more than a Progressive with a big smile.

    Perhaps if we just blew up the earth it would be a really good thing as mankind is utterly & aggressivly stupid, let alone has lost any and all value it may have had.

    When one drinks freely from the bottle of Stupid, there can be only one outcome. “Aggressive Stupidity.”

  • jopa

    Well for starters they should only need 51 votes which is a majority no matter how you look at it.Anyone against nuclear arms reductions should have their head examined.It’s a no-brainer.Time;When you speak of someone drinking from the bottle of stupid don’t forget Boener the new Weeper of The House.He should lay off the wine in order to control his drunken outbursts such as “Hell no we wont” which he has hollereed out in typical wino fashion more than once.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      jopa,
      before you tout the brilliance of this treaty, you better read a little closer. There is no verification clause in it!! so as usual we the US, will be the good guys that destroy ours and Russia will be the good guys that SAY they destroyed theirs when they didn’t! Remember Reagans words. “trust, but VERIFY!!!”

  • http://elliesmiles@hotmail.com Eleanor C

    Obama and his minions have contributed greatly to the demise of our nation but the ongoing stupidity of the sheep who remain clueless is astounding. History is repeating itself before our very eyes and the sheep are once again failing to realize their doom. Hopefully, those of us in the know are in the majority and can somehow end this nightmare before it’s too late.

    • M

      As depressing as it is, the only thing that will save us now is a miracle.

      I think those making these decisions, are doing so with the belief that they are securing a “better?” position for themselves and their families. Trading America for a safe haven, if you will. The rest of us are heading for slaughter.

  • Raggs

    I bet a million that nobody has even read this stupid thing!

    Another pass it and then see what it is BS obama crap.

  • Rennie

    Vote in a democrat who is a democrat 100% of the time instead of a RINO who supports crippling our defenses. This treaty is stupid, the refusal to allow senate reviwe of negotiation transcripts just confirms suspicions this was a sellout, TREASON, betrayal of our security, our nuclear deterence, that will result in an attack on American and European cities, whether directly by the Kremlin or some nation they have assisted to nuclear capability it does not matter. For that same country to be the ones objecting to a missile defense shield to help protect neighboring countries from the new nuclear powers, is ridiculous when they are being allowed to back out of said treaty at anytime, for anything we do they don’t like, but we can’t. What idiot thinks that a good idea? Battlefield tactical nukes, such as were used on 8/8/08 to threaten Georgia and the USA if we got involved, being ignored, is further proof of tactical stupidity, or treason?

  • M

    If you don’t have one already, you better get your passport before you can’t! Because, this country is history. We have been screwed over by all of them.

  • chuckb

    we should thank the rino’s for letting this happen. we know the democrats don’t care and probably don’t have a clue what this treaty is all about. thank hillary and bill, their administration set up no. korea for nuclear power, gave the chinese missile technology that would have taken them a hundred years to gather on their own.
    this is a gift from the sixties, they now have the power and they are destroying our country before our eyes. jane fonda must be celebrating.
    we have one alternative short of a revolution, replace the republican party. we know the democratic party has capitulated to the communist.

  • http://lsminsurance.ca/ Lorne Marr

    The treaty has finally been ratified and it seems that there should be more lame duck sessions like this one. Moreover President Obama has scored a triple win today – 9/11 responders bill,DADT repeal signed and now the START treay ratification.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Lorne Marr,
      This is why I say all the nay sayers are wrong when they say Nobummer will double cross us! Here is proof positive that he will TRIPLE CROSS us!!! Beware people, it is coming, just watch for it!!

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      Is there some particular reason you hate our country and want to see it destroyed? Didn’t you get enough hugs when you were a child ?

  • chuckb

    lorne marr

    you have it wrong, the american people suffered a triple loss today.

  • Jeremy Leochner

    Personally I agree with the Treaty. It reduces the number of Nuclear weapons among the major countries of the world. It still leaves the United States with a hefty arsenal so I feel fairly safe. I would suggest that the author find a better picture to represent this story. As the treaty will reduce the number of Nuclear weapons and decrease the chance of having to drop another atomic bomb.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Jeremy,
      It does no such thing! There is no verification clause in it!! The Russians don’t have to verify the weapons were destroyed!!! YOU trust them, I prefer to suspect them until we can verify they are indeed destroyed!!

      • Jeremy Leochner

        Joe the cold war is over so I feel okay with granting some trust to the russians on this. Afterall no one wants to go to war with nuclear weapons. I think we can trust the russians not to threaten us.

  • chuckb

    jeremy leochner

    that’s pure baloney. reducing nuclear weapons? are you serious, how many did we reduce? we both have thousands of nuclear warheads, enought ot wipe out the world, are we going to use them? only a madman would consider it. we will always need these as a deterent, are the muslims in iran or chine and no korea reducing theirs? of course not. however, the soviets are getting the satisfaction they need not fear our missile defense will be used by russia’s nieghbors. this is a dismantling of our defense and putting this country in jeopardy, the senators that voted on this bill probably didn’t read it just like the healthcare. barry is doing his best to put us on a third world basis and the rino’s are helping him. we could expect nothing less from the democrats.

    • Jeremy Leochner

      Chuck I disagree. For the sake of argument please bear in mind the soviet union no longer exsits. The cold war is over. As you said we still have a large number of nuclear weapons. We are not lowering or weaking our defense in my mind. And this applies to Iran or China or whoever else has nuclear weapons. Please remember no country or its leaders dosent care about survival. If ever any country fired a nuclear weapon at the United States everyone from goverment on down would become bloodlust and demand retaliation. We would drop every weapon we have on them. Even one nuclear weapon could do catastrophic damage to any country that might threaten us. To me the simple existance of our nuclear defense is enough of a deterent to stop war. And perhaps someday if we can try and keep reducing our number of weapons while trying to get allies and enemies alike to maybe reduce theirs there wont be such a need for such a deterent. It may sound idealistic but it sounds better then living in fear of attack or feeling we have to frighten the world to keep ourselves safe. If we set an example for the world to get rid of weapons maybe we can get them to follow it. And just one thing bringing up the debate of muslims in Iran dosent help your argument, it just muddles it in religous debate.

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