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Farewell America

January 3, 2011 by  

Farewell America

A defining characteristic of failing or collapsing government is stepped-up aggressiveness, especially toward its own citizens.

Few Americans know that American finance is nothing less than a double Ponzi. It is already widely known that the U.S. is creating debt and “financing” this debt with newly created debt.

Can you believe that debtors (government) are now simultaneously creditors with so-called “intergovernmental bonds?” This is the extreme opposite of intrinsic value. It is without value and is only pretense or Ponzi. This is no joke, folks. It is the world in which Americans now live.

A Ponzi scheme goes on as long as its growing fragility does not prick public trust. As we know, Bernie Madoff’s scheme only collapsed when individual creditors had liquidity problems and needed to withdraw funds.

Of course, Madoff didn’t have a printing press to keep the Ponzi scam going. But the printing press makes the U.S. financial system at far greater risk and deception because economic collapse may be extended into a later holocaust of Biblical proportions.

Is the U.S. an international gangster? No doubt the U.S. is one of the most aggressive nations in the world. The U.S. has fought by far the largest number of wars based on propaganda pretenses. It has broken the international laws of war, maintained secret prisons and fought an absurd war against drugs in Colombia and Afghanistan and at home where the tentacles of the narcotics mafia now reach into political circles. With no shame for hypocrisy, the U.S. is itself a tax haven for foreigners.

Cables released by WikiLeaks show the U.S. government for what it is: A duplicitous, evil empire that forces its will on other governments while doing the bidding of its corporate masters. The so-called Food Safety Modernization Act (FSMA) also reveals this. As Mike Adams of NaturalNews.com reports, the FSMA gives the Food and Drug Administration the authority to establish offices in foreign countries to “dictate the food safety plans of foreign governments.” (See page 217 of the bill.)

The global “food safety” plan is to be developed under the consultation to the Department of Homeland Security and the U.S. Treasury and adopts a globalist food plan — Codex Alimentarius — that was developed by the World Health Organization (WHO) under United Nations auspices.

As Adams writes, after submitting to the codex “the FDA will ‘harmonize’ the U.S. food and dietary supplement industries with global Codex requirements which outlaw virtually all healthy doses of vitamins and minerals. Under full Codex ‘harmonization,’ America will be left with a dead food supply and the health food stores will be virtually stripped bare of dietary supplements. Selling vitamin D at a reasonable dose such as 4,000 IU per capsule will be criminalized and products will be seized and destroyed by FDA agents who recruit local law enforcement to bring in the firepower.

“All this will, of course, ensure a diseased, nutritionally-deficient U.S. population. This actually seems to be the goal the FDA has been trying to achieve all along because the more diseased the population, the more money gets collected by Big Pharma for ‘treating’ sick people with medication and chemotherapy.”

The U.S. legal non-system is a lawyer’s paradise, with lawyers enriching themselves on the misfortunes of their clients. It is common knowledge how exorbitant are verdicts of liability, which make business activity extremely risky in the U.S. And the non-system is stacked against the individual or business that doesn’t have the unlimited pocketbook of the Federal government that files endless legal motions and perpetual appeals.

A warning here: As far as U.S. persons are concerned, America aims to abolish cross-border business and investment.

Warren Buffett and Bill Gross both spoke against investments in U.S. government securities. Gross, of PIMCO, the biggest bond fund in the world, advises investors to sell dollar investments, “before central banks and sovereign wealth funds do.”

Has anyone noticed that the U.S. is now generally anti-entrepreneurial and anti-small business with stepped up regulations on small business? This small business administrative burden is nothing less than government harassment.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American and author of The Bob Livingston Letter™, founded in 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • http://eternityroad.info Francis W. Porretto

    Concerning Ponzi schemes and their dissolution, regard closely the response of Hungary to the collapse of its retirement pension system.Would such a move in America be resisted…or welcomed?

    Governments everywhere are tightening down on their subjects. Often it begins with citizen disarmament…in the name of “public safety,” of course. Then, as crime mushrooms, we are told that the State lacks the resources required to defend us; taxes must go up! Later expropriations of property and freedoms aren’t even rationalized to that extent.

    It’s time to allow that we’re past the fringes and into tyranny proper, just about everywhere.

    • Don

      This forum consists mainly of moon eyed children with their collective heads firmly planted.

      It’s no wonder the politicians are taking advantage of you, and you deserve it.

      The best any of you can come up with is supposedly voting people out and wating on the promised land.

      Utterly pathetic.

      It is long past time to let the lead fly.

      Grow a pair and step up to secure your right to live, or prepare to be enslaved.

      Most of you will choose the latter because of laziness and cowardice.

      • Mark Hartig

        My sentiments exactly. The Joint Chiefs should have arrested the majority of the members of congress long ago, charged with being “Domestic threats to the Constitution”

        • Granny Mae

          Physical fighting within this country is dreamed of by most unsatisfied Americans but , in reality how does a man fight missles and rockets with hunting rifles? How does a man put his family in danger in order to fight the military of his own country. Do I set out to kill my neighbors young son in the national guard who only wants to protect his country and is told he took an oath and if he breaks ranks he will go to prison! Look at what has happened in other countries when they have tried to go against the government. Those people all were young people and it was thought that they would never go against their brothes but they did. Why? Because the threat against them was so great they felt they had too. Most likely they were told if they didn’t do as they were told it would go very bad for their families. Most young people don’t fear for themselves but they do fear for their loved ones. Talk is easy but not so realisitc. The only way to fight this kind of fight is politically and through the courts. You would have to gain support of the military and that isn’t going to be so easy either. You have Colonals that have made it a carere to kiss up to politicians for all kinds of special favors and then too they have their retirements to think about. This kind of a fight isn’t the kind that you can just go out on the street and start shooting. It takes a long time to set something like that up and I don’t see where anyone has the smarts or guts to do that either. Our best chance is to do everything through the courts and at the voting booth. Courts are even sketchy because Soros and his buddies have enough money to buy off most anyone ! Sad to think that mankind has come to this. We have lost our honesty and integrity and spend too much time trying to please everyone alive instead of just setting rules and then everybody live by them ! Too much complaining that this person doesn’t like to have to look at a cross sitting on a hill down the road or someone else doesn’t like looking at Moses and the ten commandments on a building ! If all people have to do is complain about petty things like that then they loose sight of the bigger picture of what is going on that really impacts their lives. That is how we end up with communists and socialist in office that can then make the rules over our lives and we have nothing we can do about it. It is going to take a long time to undo all this mess and it is the fault of every one of us living in this country. We have gone about what we considered our own business and trustingly left our lives in the hands of liars cheats and thieves, that could care less about us and our lives. That my friends is our own fault. We have left the scooling of our children to the public schools and just gone along with what ever they chose to teach our kids. Our thinking was , they know best what our kids should know ! How many of us have attended the PTO meetings at our kids schools? Some have but sadly most have not ! We had every excuse in the book as to why we wouldn’t go but the truth is we just didn’t want to be bothered ! How many people attend their City counsel meetings? Not many because they wouldn’t all fit in the room so they stay home watching TV unless there is something that is going to really drastically effect them ! We get pissed off and blame Bush or Clinton or Obama but the fact is they are there because we let them and in some cases put them in office ! We don’t even seem to have any standards for electing someone to office. Are they equipt with the education and experience for the office? What does that matter? They said they were going to do all this for us ! Never in a million years did those that elected some of these guys ever ask how! How are you going to do all these things you promise? When we realize they are not what we thought they were then we make excuses to ourselves by saying well we need to give them a chance, and all the time we are giving them chances things are getting worse! We are so smart ourselves that we can’t even take the blame for our own actions. I say, that until we do some careful and serious thinking and planning we will never get rid of the corruption and liars, cheats and thieves in Washington. I have my doubts on this new bunch going in. When you throw a good apple in the barrel of a bunch of rotten apples it won’t be long before the good apples will be rotten too. You have to dump the barrel out and then was it out and then you can put good fruit back in it.
          Packing a gun and blowing someone away won’t solve anything. When you do that then you end up with even a bigger mess to clean up and that will be the most costly, in terms of money and lives ! This is the time for people to think smart !

          • Denniso

            Hey everyone! It seems that the rightwing here is ignoring the fact that Obama is considered the most admired man in the country,according to a recent nationwide survey. Hillery Clinton was selected as the most admired woman. Where is the hate and venom that we expect to see here, directed at the two most admired people for this year, and for the people who conducted the polling? It appears that the majority in the country doesn’t agree w/ all the hate and anger from the right.

          • Christin

            Mae,
            Thanks for your bold words and sentiment.
            May God have mercy on us ALL!

          • kate8

            Denniso – Yes, and we know how the media never lies. LOL.
            If you believe that survey, then I’ve got a bridge…

            Good words, GrannyMae.

            Don’g forget that young people are easier to enlist in causes, especially when they’ve had a thorough indoctrination through our school system and have no real experience or understanding of history. They’ve been taught that America is evil and unfair, and they have lots of testosterone just waiting for an outlet.

          • denniso

            Bridge? Do you mean Sara Palin’s bridge to nowhere?

          • Walt

            If they took an oath to protect against for foreign and domestic terrorist. Then they know that the politician is the domestic terrorist, when they go against the Constitution and the people. I took that oath many years ago and it was never revoked. So yes if I have to take out the trash I will. Break your oath and it is Treason, the penalty is Death.

          • Denniso

            Just more threats of violence. Why don’t you do something constructive and drop the John Wayne act…you’d be a bit more productive and helpful to the country.

          • who cares

            You M.R’SGet off those drugs. the last civil war you lost.

          • Mr. Snerdly

            You are right when you state it would be foolish to revolt against the government. You have no idea of the power of the military. We have not used the power of the military since world war II. We fight with our hands tied behind our backs, blindfolded, when it comes to the Muslims or any other war. If the citizens of this country revolted, they would probably use nuclear weapons. Rest assured, there would be no punches pulled to kill as many white people as possible, as quickly as possible. If you are a minority group, they would go much easier on you.

            The best thing we could do is stop working for a year and apply for unemployment benefits. The whole thing would collapse and we could retake our country.

          • http://google Annie Mae

            Did anyone know Obama before Oprah. And, I am sure he was put in not elected. And, for Hillary she was just the presidents wife. How can either of these favorites run a country? This seems out of touch with Country and the citizens of America.

        • Dick Gazinia

          That’s how Castro got Cuba… look what happened there. You guys risk becoming the American Taliban.

          There are no chains for citizens planned by the Obama administration. I suspect, that if the could, the followers of Beck and Limbaugh would be quick to apply them to anyone who disagrees with them.

          The beauty of our country is that there is room for different opinions.

          I don’t get the antagonism for public schools. Do you want your kids to be taught to believe in myth as fact? … creationism? by misguided Bible thumpers who delude themselves that they are the sole interpreters of the word of God? Sounds like the Taliban indeed.

          • denniso

            I agree…the extreme right hates public school because they can’t preach religion,can’t beat kids anymore,try to teach about our diverse country and world,and try to overcome bigotry and racism. Now, maybe they are trying to teach too much so that some areas don’t get enough attention,but this blanket hatred of public education and it’s teachers is pretty absurd and unique to our country.

          • kate8

            denniso – wrong again.

            The right doesn’t “hate” public school because they can’t teach religion. We don’t like public schools usurping parental authority. A judge in CA ruled that parents have NO right to even KNOW what their children are being taught. Children are virtually wards of the state.

            We wish to retain the right to raise our children according to our own values. Public schools tell kids to reject their parent’s values, they indoctrinate them into socialist attitudes, teach them that gay lifestyles are to be celebrated, and so on.

            Government has no business overriding parental authority, yet that is exactly what they do.

            I’ll bet if schools were indoctrinating kids using the Bible, you progressives would be raising holy ned.

          • Walt

            You are right. I have seen up front liberals and democrats teach Bigotry and Racism. Dumb our good public schools down and teach false history. So yes it is time to stop them.

          • Denniso

            And could you enlighten us on exactly how liberals teach bigotry and racism? I doubt you can even articulate what it is you mean,since it’s nonsensical.

          • http://google Annie Mae

            Opinions do not get the job done. And, sorry to blur your view but America was built with strong religious belief. Take your thief of morals back where they belong. We lost our Country, Schools & religion with the Kennedy disgrace. Show me which one of them ever won anything. But, they sure knew how to corrupt all of the above. If you are a US citizen you are now being left behind for foreigners when it comes to $ & cents.

      • skip

        January 8 – well, the lead certainly flew. Aren’t you proud of yourselves, or are you going to join Loughner and settle up the good old fashioned American way – shoot em down, wipe em out! This nation is going down the chute, but for reasons other than you voice.

    • http://personalliberty manosfate

      Kennedy was the last man who could have saved the Republic. He betrayed the “elites”,and they used the enforcement arm of the shadow gov to take him out.The same will happen to anyone who gets too close.

      • aman

        True. And you should also know the following. Life as we knew it for we Americans is lost! What you are witnessing now is the elite conquoring the four pillars of American civilization. That is, Jobs, Savings, Security, and Freedom. Without offering a lecture I’ll cut right to the chase; There isn’t no immediate fix hence solution. The beginning of the NWO or One World Government began with the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989. Keep in mind there’s going to be much you will not see coming because of how carefully this plan is dynamically enforced. If you rely on mainstream media as your source of information forget it! You are passively being lead to the slaughter. If you haven’t figured it out yet America has been under a Terror attack since Jan 21st 2008. This is the illegal election of Hussein Obama! Period! And anyone with half a brain who’s a Red , White and Blue Americanwould know this. YES! Each and every day you have this illegal Government running the show I’ll conclude simply by telling you this; Either 1776 or slavery! And, by the way, before you accept the motto, ” When Injustice become law, Resistance becomes duty,” You better have Jesus Christ first in your heart. The Bible is my war manuel!

        • Mike In MI

          Amen, aman -
          It is patently obvious to anyone with spiritual eyes to see which “god” is pushing events from behind the facade put up for us to observe and think that facade represents who is doing what and what they want us to think is going on.
          People think there is nothing that can be used against the might of science’s paltry productions of slaughter. They’re wrong, wrong, wrong. The same guy who changed the simple elements of water to a completely different substance also successfully believed to his dieing moment that his trust in verses showing he would rise from the dead would be honored. He endured brutal torture, humiliation and abuse, psychological/emotional attacks, every bone being out of joint (requiring carrying him to execution) and 6 hours of dreadful pain suspended on a stake with a spike through his wrists until the priests started killing the Passover lambs. Then, he could let go of his soul. He did it focussing on verses promising that joy would follow his resurrection (which, among other things, he didn’t know or fully understand – so, he wasn’t omniscient).
          Because of that tremendous accomplishment anybody who believes in his rise from the dead and submits to his lordship has the power to do the things he did and greater…engage one’s mind to use the power he used to manipulate the relations of matter and energy. Ain’t no big thing when you get used to the idea and have a definite need for what you are assured needs to come to pass. You just better know of a certainty how to make such things happen – before some danger comes that you need to overcome. He did it. If you want so can you.
          If you are a Christian and don’t know how to do it – - – it’s high time you learned. Find somebody who has a track record and get them to teach you. If your leader is only a flapjaw demoninational “holy” man leave him in your dust. The Bible is just a book to him.
          There is no weapon fashioned by man or “other god” strong enough overcome God’s power that created the heavens and the earth and everything therein.

          • aman

            Exactly Mike! And by the description you gave of that awful beating to nearly death of Jesus Christ, I wonder if people give any thought of the resulting out come if Christ had died before his death on the cross! My guess is, that if he did, he wasn’t who he said he claim he actually was. Then, all the interperters of the bible would really have a day huh! But, the power of the cross, and the will of His Holy Spirit; Truly Awesome, trustworthy, and deserving of defending ” by any and all means,” Because if you don’t, you’d better hope that Jesus soon teleport you out of here or fight! the rightous fight!

        • who cares

          Get off the pipe IDIOT. Bush was installed by the new world order. Obama was elected by the people. something you brain dead republican can’t comprehend.

      • http://google Annie Mae

        Joseph Kennedy used the mussel of the Moffia to elect his son. Also, a crook and known thief from Hollywood stars. They went in as friend of man. But, become the beginning of the end.

  • John Wayne

    Business as usual for Washington! The place needs a good cleaning out but we all know it won’t get it!

    • P. Fort

      Mr. Wayne,
      It can get done. Washington’s change may take time, but our votes will do it.

      • DF

        P.Fort: Your prediction will only come true when the voters of this country WAKE UP! How many decades and decades of failed political and economic policy will it take for the American voter to see that this endless cycle of Republican/Democrat, Democrat/Republican merry-go-round circus IS NOT WORKING? It is time to clean house, as John Wayne alludes, but NOT with Dems or Reps anymore. BOTH of these party systems are corrupt to the core and thoroughly inept. Are there a few good people in both parties? Sure, but it has come to pass that any politician fool enough to associate themselves with either of these two parties is far too fool to lead.

        • taxpayer

          Do you think all Americans are asleep? There has been many fighting this war for years. Yes there are many more that have been just trying to survive day to day. The media is self serving, the government is self serving, business is self serving, lawyers want things to go bad so they get rich, The battle is too great and stacked against those that are fighting to stop this crazyness. We have dead people voting, illegal’s voting and unions forcing members to vote for coruption. I have to disagree with you, there are many that are willing to give it there all to change but the beast is too big and eats whatever gets in it’s way. All things cannot get fixed so at some point the beast will colapse. Sad but this will destroy millions. Don’t give up, we must continue the fight.

          • chow

            I agree but there’s always more of them so the system will never change. We can continue to fight but it will have to be in a violent revolution.

          • DeJay

            So,how many of you are contacting your friends and relatives to take heed?? We have to inform the masses and try to get them to wake up. There are too many sheeple to form a cohesive fighting force and it appears that a revolution is the only way things can get righted.

          • Brian

            Your almost right the Bible speaks of the Beat as well as to the predicument that we are in, in Revilation try reading it. It will show you just how close we are to distorying ourselves and the world we know today. But thank God those that Know him and Trust Him will have a far better place to go to. I hope you know him if not read his word The BIBLE and be informed.

          • kate8

            DeJay – I’ve been trying to tell people about what’s coming for 2 decades. No one wants to hear.

            Even now, when they see things happening, the subject is still taboo. We all have to speak only positive stuff, you know. Mustn’t get anyone upset or frightened.

            BTW, the whole “positive thinking” idea serves to keep people away from looking at the truth. We’ve got a bunch of partiers aboard a ship sailing down that ‘ol river in Egypt.

          • krayz

            Good luck with that voting thingamajig.
            There is only one way to change the direction of this country.
            Walk up to the front door, and throw all their a$$es out…

          • http://Persoanllibertydigest Jim

            We can not stop or give up — a war is won with many smaller victories — Heck we have just begun this fight, don’t be a quitter — For to long Americans were sleeping at the wheel– We need every American to join together to get rid of these leaders who no longer deserve to represent us — Our strength is in our numbers and we are growing each day –

          • Dan az

            Kate
            I have the same problem with the wife she refuses to here anything that sounds like politics because I’m just a radical that hates every thing the guv does.Frustrating to say the least but when the SHTF I’ll still be a radical, oh well! Its all my fault for thinking this way right?Its just easier if you bury your head in the ground,that way you just dont have to see it.

          • Granny Mae

            taxpayer,

            What you say is true. What is needed here is education> How many people that claimed they were going to vote even knew who it really was they were voting for? I heard interviewers talking to people claiming they were going to vote and when they were asked questions about what the candidate stood for and were given a discription they would agree that , that is what they were going for and never knew it was not the policy of the person they were voting for. People need to be talked to over and over again until they get it in their heads just what they need to look for in a candidate and know what and who they are voting for. Unfortunatly we have a country full of brain dead idiots. They talk like they don’t have a brain in their heads and it shows. I know people with doctorit degrees that can’t speak a sentance without using the F word. You’d think with al that education they could think of better ways to express themselves than to us gutter language. We have people quit school by the time they turn 16 and never made it out of the 6th grade. What is up with that? When you have the population wehave today and the majority of them are uneducated you really can’t expect this country to make many intelligent decissions especially when it comes to voting ! These people don’t realize they are being used by the elite in Washington. They have allowed themselves to remain stupid and will always be manipulated and used by the Washington Liars, Cheats and Thieves !

          • Betsy

            Kate, don’t ever give up being the watchman on the wall.
            As far as that boat going down the river in Egypt:

            You do know the Tigris Euphrates River is in the process of drying up, don’t you?

        • James

          DF, I would say voting for candidates who are neither Democrates or Republicans is a step in the right direction. However I don’t expect that to happen, traditions are hard to break.

          • Brian

            no not Really some of them are worse Vote informed Find out what the person stands for, will this person vote for what you want the direction you want to go. One more thing don’t listento the media they can twist and turn a great thing into a Monster of a thing find out the truth vote acordingly not just because this person is a certine color or religion know the persons idias I tend to vote Very conservitive low taxes less Government and morally right

          • Richard Pawley

            The Tea Party had to run under the umbrella of the Republican Party but if they cannot bring the Republicans back to the fold of America for Americans and not just a county in the new order of things then they will eventually morph into a third party. I don’t think even some of the liberal progressives would like to be ‘dictated’ to from a foreign shore, but of course they can’t even conceive of where all the spending is going to lead us.

          • Dan az

            james
            your probably right read this.

            http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=246289

          • http://personalliberty manosfate

            Any candidate who has a chance to win, and hates the FED, would be destroyed.

          • JC

            Richard Pawley says:
            January 3, 2011 at 8:35 pm
            “The Tea Party had to run under the umbrella of the Republican Party…”

            In waht way did the Tea Party, anti fascist grass roots movement run under the Republican Party? That’s not what I saw at all.

            What I saw was the Republican Party doing its best to identify with the Tea Party movement and doing a pretty inept job of it.
            Anytime we see a group, any group, moving with purpose we’ll always see some politician trying to act like he’s leading them.

            I think the American Tea Party Grassroots Movement has put the whole system on notice.

        • BDOG

          OUR ENEMY IS HIDEING IN PLAIN SIGHT.

      • Catfish

        As long as we have the corruped voting system that we have, we will never get rid of them.

        • Randy L Johnson

          I would hope that you can provide a better voting system. One person one vote seems to be as pure and simple as it gets. The only difference is the electoral college. The electoral college is the best way to keep regional areas from choosing the Executive Branch. If you used the one person one vote, then the highly populated areas, (California & New York) to decide on the President. As I am sure you are aware of, those 2 states are very liberal and socialistic in nature.

          • DaveH

            One person, one vote (for the president) would subject the less populous states to the tyranny of the more populous states. They would not have joined the Union without that protection. Even with it, we still ended up with Obama ramming his unConstitution healthcare down the States throats.

          • Christin

            Randy and Dave H.,
            Yes, the electoral college IS definately necessary for all votes to count across the country, but the POWERS given to the Congress and President are limited by the American Constitution, however… the congress has given more power to the Presidents and his unConstitutional CZARS (than he/she is supposed to have).

            Congress has taken more power for themselves as well by not representing their constituents, but themselves… giving themselves pay increases and six figure life time pensions and healthcare, career politician status (only supposed to be part-time), and not getting thrown out of office with Ethics violation charges against the Rule of Law of the land only getting a censure, removed as head of a committe, or verbal discipline in the congressional well… oh brother… we’d all go to jail.

            And then of course the other corruptions: lobbists, unions, communist and socialist organizations, g Soros and PTB against Capitalistic Free America.

            All Laws should apply equally to all American citizens… no one should be above the law.

          • Christin

            Randy and Dave H.,

            Yes, “the electoral college” IS definately necessary for all votes to count across the country, but the POWERS given to the Congress and President are limited by the American Constitution, however… the congress has given more power to the Presidents and their unConstitutional CZARS than they are supposed to have.

            Congress has taken more power for themselves as well by not following the Constitution or representing their constituents, but themselves… giving themselves pay increases and six figure life time pensions and healthcare, career politician status (only supposed to be part-time), and not getting thrown out of office with Ethics violation charges against the Rule of Law of the land only getting a censure, removed as head of a committe, or verbal discipline in the congressional well… oh brother… we’d all go to jail.

            And then of course the other Corruptions: lobbists, unions, big gov’t, big corporations, bailouts for banks and liberal organizations (ACORN, Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae), communist and socialist organizations, g Soros and PTB ALL against Capitalistic Free America.

            All Laws should apply equally to all American citizens… no one should be above the law… NO ONE!

          • http://yahoo Bob

            The supreme court, gave us dubya, orer the will of the people. This was by a 5 to 4 repub majority. The worst president in history, is dubya.

          • Brian

            I agree to the most part but NY and Calf. may be libral over all but there are consevities in that count, so the Electorial can steel there vote away and make it Libral. One Vote One Man, Woman is how it was set up it was changed because of the tie back in history when voting for presidents then they made this change with an electoriate style voting system But lookn at the Bush Gore debate it still is going on in some people. and look at the Bush Clinton Vote Bush won by pop. count but Clinton won Electoriate.

          • eddie47d

            Hold on there Brian; Clinton 44,909,806 Bush 39,104,550. Don’t try to put any 3rd party spin on it either, it is what it is.

          • Dan az

            So Eddie
            Hold on there Brian; Clinton 44,909,806 Bush 39,104,550. Don’t try to put any 3rd party spin on it either, it is what it is.
            then what your saying is that there is only 84014356 voters?Out of 300+ million people? There cant be that many that didnt vote not counting the kids and felons.

        • GenEarly

          The “system” is not corrupt. The Electoral College devised in The Constitution protects small states from big states and popular tyranny.It amazes me that “freedom” can only be achieved, according to some,(Progressives) by throwing out The Constitution. We have very little left of The Constitution now and look at the results.People in the system are corrupt, and that is the change needed.

          • Born in America

            You are correct GenEarly – the system is a good system as long as it remains pure. We have to cut out the corrupted politicians and replace them with those that believe in our Constitution, that are humble in their quest to restore our USA.

          • Brian

            not Constitutional it was crated later

          • DaveH

            Brian,
            Why would you deny something such as the creation of the electoral system being created in the Constitution, when you obviously haven’t read it?
            From the Constitution “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.”
            More:
            http://www.cato.org/constitution/article2_en.html

        • Vigilant

          Randy, Dave is correct. The Electoral College system favors the small states. That is the very reason it will always be around. There are enough smaller states to override any attempt to amend the Constitution along those lines.

          As for resident Bush-basher Bob, no one asserts that Bush won the popular vote. Numerous researches by independent organizations have proven, however, that he did legitimately win the electoral vote in Florida.

          Be careful what you wish for. Nixon won the popular vote against Kennedy, thanks to Mayor Daly and others committing voter fraud.

          • kohler

            Under National Popular Vote, when every vote counts, successful candidates will continue to find a middle ground of policies appealing to the wide mainstream of America. Instead of playing mostly to local concerns in Ohio and Florida, candidates finally would have to form broader platforms for broad national support It would no longer matter who won a state.

            Now political clout comes from being a battleground state.

            Now with state-by-state winner-take-all laws presidential elections ignore 12 of the 13 lowest population states (3-4 electoral votes), that are almost invariably non-competitive, and ignored, in presidential elections. Six regularly vote Republican (Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, North Dakota, and South Dakota), and six regularly vote Democratic (Rhode Island, Delaware, Hawaii, Vermont, Maine, and DC) in presidential elections. Nine state legislative chambers in the lowest population states have passed the National Popular Vote bill. It has been enacted by the District of Columbia and Hawaii.

            Of the 22 medium-lowest population states (those with 3,4,5, or 6 electoral votes), only 3 have been battleground states in recent elections– NH(4), NM (5), and NV (5). These three states contain only 14 of the 22 (8%) states’ total 166 electoral votes.

            The 11 most populous states contain 56% of the population of the United States and a candidate would win the Presidency if 100% of the voters in these 11 states voted for one candidate. However, if anyone is concerned about this theoretical possibility, it should be pointed out that, under the current system, a candidate could win the Presidency by winning a mere 51% of the vote in these same 11 states — that is, a mere 26% of the nation’s votes.

            With National Popular Vote, big states that are just about as closely divided as the rest of the country, would not get all of the candidates’ attention. In recent presidential elections, the 11 largest states have been split — five “red states (Texas, Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, and Georgia) and six “blue” states (California, New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and New Jersey). Among the four largest states, the two largest Republican states (Texas and Florida) generated a total margin of 2.1 million votes for Bush, while the two largest Democratic states generated a total margin of 2.1 million votes for Kerry. 8 small western states, with less than a third of California’s population, provided Bush with a bigger margin (1,283,076) than California provided Kerry (1,235,659).

          • kohler

            State-by-state winner-take-all laws to award electoral college votes were eventually enacted by 48 states AFTER the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution.

            The Founding Fathers only said in the U.S. Constitution about presidential elections (only after debating among 30 ballots for choosing a method): “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors . . .” The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly characterized the authority of the state legislatures over the manner of awarding their electoral votes as “plenary” and “exclusive.”

            Neither of the two most important features of the current system of electing the President (namely, universal suffrage, and the 48 state-by-state winner-take-all method) are in the U.S. Constitution. Neither was the choice of the Founders when they went back to their states to organize the nation’s first presidential election.

            In 1789, in the nation’s first election, the people had no vote for President in most states, Only men who owned a substantial amount of property could vote.

            In 1789 only three states used the state-by-state winner-take-all method to award electoral votes.

            The winner-take-all method is not entitled to any special deference based on history or the historical meaning of the words in the U.S. Constitution. The current 48 state-by-state winner-take-all method (i.e., awarding all of a state’s electoral votes to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in a particular state) is not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution, the debates of the Constitutional Convention, or the Federalist Papers. The actions taken by the Founding Fathers make it clear that they never gave their imprimatur to the winner-take-all method.

            The constitutional wording does not encourage, discourage, require, or prohibit the use of any particular method for awarding the state’s electoral votes.

            As a result of changes in state laws enacted since 1789, the people have the right to vote for presidential electors in 100% of the states, there are no property requirements for voting in any state, and the state-by-state winner-take-all method is used by 48 of the 50 states. Maine and Nebraska currently award electoral votes by congressional district.

            The National Popular Vote bill would end the disproportionate attention and influence of the “mob” in a handful of closely divided battleground states, such as Florida, while the “mobs” of the vast majority of states are ignored. 98% of the 2008 campaign events involving a presidential or vice-presidential candidate occurred in just 15 closely divided “battleground” states. Over half (57%) of the events were in just four states (Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania and Virginia). Similarly, 98% of ad spending took place in these 15 “battleground” states.

            The current system does not provide some kind of check on the “mobs.” There have been 22,000 electoral votes cast since presidential elections became competitive (in 1796), and only 10 have been cast for someone other than the candidate nominated by the elector’s own political party. The electors are dedicated party activists of the winning party who meet briefly in mid-December to cast their totally predictable votes in accordance with their pre-announced pledges.

        • Vic Bailey

          Catfish has it right, how else did Harry Reid win another election, when everybody wanted him out, like the old saying, Money Talks and B.S. Walks. That is where the American people are right now, Walking!! The only way to get this scum out is to bodily REMOVE THEM. Then take them right on to Leavenworth Kansas. Instead of a resort in Palm Springs, They’re CRIMINALS. Semper Fi.

          • Bob Wire

            “how else did Harry Reid win another election, when everybody wanted him out,”

            Hmm? everybody didn’t want him out?

            Just a wild guess!

            Too much “FOX” Kool Aid? or “Everybody” really isn’t “everybody”

            Considering Special Interest spent a million dollars a day for a good 3 months attempting to sway public opinion to defeat HCR yet failed in the end to do so. You still wish to hold on to some belief that Harry bought an election? hells bells ! let’s all go move in with Harry! the guy is loaded!

          • Vigilant

            Bob Wire says, “Considering Special Interest spent a million dollars a day for a good 3 months attempting to sway public opinion to defeat HCR yet failed in the end to do so.”

            My, how you’ve been misled! Feel the need to correct your statement? Public opinion, for whatever reason, WAS swayed. Much good it did the public, who were overridden by a Congress who couldn’t have cared less about the majority of Americans.

            AND, even if it weren’t a majority, a major bill of 2,000 pages or so, affecting one sixth of the economy, should have had the benefit of thorough debate and discussion. Not only was it not accorded such, no one even read the damn thing!

          • Richard Pawley

            I was under the impression that the special interests (the union bosses who want to unionize the TSA and every fire station and police station in the country) poured millions into re-electing Reid.

        • http://www.DonCordellforPresident.com Don Cordell

          The Electoral College is no advantage for small states when there are not equal points for each state. California has something like 55 voted, Ohio likewise more votes, when Rhode Island has 2 votes. The idea was for small states to have equal representation. Today with the nationwide information available, I believe we should go to one person, one vote with non politicians counting the votes. Vote by Computer? NO WAY, Voting Machines, NO WAY, actual paper ballots, with a new system to insure legal count, and return this nation to electing Patriots who want to Preserve our Constitution and Bill of Rights. Every facit of the Bill of RIGHTS is now invalid, cancelled, muted, ended, for our own good. IF I am elected in 2012 we are going to clean up politics from the City, County, State, and Washington DC.

          • Carol Dines

            In Oklahoma, we use papeer ballots which are then counted by a machine, it works well but there is no space for s write in, presumably, there could be.

      • castaway

        Wayne wake up! wake up, wake up Wayne! OOps! I think he is stuck in that stupid dream world of “voting” Well, I hope you wake up soon Wayne,next it will be a permanent voting COMA. LMAO

      • Strawberry Shortcake

        You’re foolish to have faith in Congress. They all end up folding…the only one I can see that is worth anything in there is Ron Paul, his son, and MAYBE Michelle Bachman. But look how much they are criticized continually…and they NEVVVER listen to them. New incumbents mean nothing…there is a larger force that needs to be reckoned with if Congress will ever perform the way it was intended. Voting and that process is another huge problem because it has also become so corrupt. Look up the vote on the newly passed food bill. LOOK at all the Republicans that voted for it!! You remember Scott Brown, everyone had thought it was such a big deal a conservative had won, and he’s nothing more than a Progressive posing as a “conservative”. Pretty much all of them are…one party will just take us there faster than the other party…that is the ONLY difference. Voting is not going to be the way my friends, can you not see that your liberty, your very right to life is being taken away from you? When are we going to say enough? I mean, I really want to know! The longer we sit waiting, hoping for something, anything, that will provide more validation to what’s going on rather than second-guessing how much is “conspiracy theories” the further we sink into their hole. Just wait until the next “pandemic”, you think I’m kidding. They are sending up all kinds of test balloons to see how the public is going to react (cough, swine flu, cough)….I really believe this is for the purpose of seeing how they can pace their agenda.

        I watched a very good documentary over the weekend called ‘Collapse’ if you can watch it please try! I watched on Netflix but I’m sure it can be found anywhere you can rent movies.

        • mark

          I remember a collapsing economy, not a collapsing government. And I recall a presidential race in a rush to get help from big brother. And I remember the public outcry for government to fix the economy in ruins from wall street selling America out. And now America is not happy with what America asked Government to try to do in the fix.
          If we can have more specifics about what in government today is hurting small businesses and what it is that corporate business is forced to operate in foreign lands it would help us to rally on specific issues and perhaps help fix the fix.

          • Susan

            Mark: Very succinct and well said. I agree with your take on the current state of affairs, and would hope and pray that more citizens of this once great country will start paying attention to the larger picture. I am 65 years old, and despite everything I have seen over the years as our values and freedoms have steadily disintegrated, I continue to have faith in America’s ultimate ability to “right” itself. This mess didn’t happen overnight, and there will not be an overnight fix; however, I have seen things in this last two years that have, on the one hand, appalled and horrified me, while at the same time have seemed to produce the most positive results I’ve seen in a long time; as if the threat to our freedoms has become SO BLATANT, that we are, at last, beginning to wake up and realize we can no longer take those freedoms for granted, and realized we have to fight to keep them (e.g., the Tea Party, the renewed interest in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, etc.). It is up to US to pursue the glass as half full rather than half empty, up to us to have enough faith to save this Country and everything it has stood for–America is only as good and as strong as the American PEOPLE. If WE give up, if we quit fighting for the soul of our country, we will surely lose all that is good and great about her.

          • Dick Gazinia

            Interesting notes from a British newspaper. I am not in agreement, but there is food for thought:

            Boards of directors gather the net revenues of business into their hands and decide, together with the major shareholders in those businesses, how to distribute that wealth. Not surprisingly, they use it to achieve their goals and to make sure government secures their positions.

            Since the early 1970s, workers’ wage increases came to an end, their benefits and job security shrank and government supports for average people came under conservative attack. These increasing burdens were justified as absolutely necessary to enable more investment and, therefore, greater economic growth. A bigger economic pie would then provide more for everyone including workers.

            Like someone convicted of murdering his parents who demands leniency as an orphan, corporate America demands conservative government and austerity on the grounds of excessive budget deficits. Mainstream media and politicians take those corporate demands seriously, reminding us who controls whom.

            Both Republican and Democratic policies have plunged millions of effective, productive workers into unemployment and resulting personal, family and community disasters. Governments tap the collective purses of their nations chiefly to rescue just those private capitalists who were major contributors to the crisis and whose wealth insulates them from the crisis’ worst effects

          • Brian

            Thats why we have the Constitution it spelles it out but we have moved so far from it that we can’t find our way back!

          • Pat R

            Now is not the time for dispair; it is the time for action. We do have a restored “Republic” already alive in the united States. If people would just take the time to check this out and get involved, things will change quicker. Not only do we have a “new” Republic; American
            people are the wealthiest people in the world. Look up HJR 192; a bill passed in 1933. This has been kept secret ever since it was passed and very few knew it existed. Now there are people accessing these funds and saving their homes, paying public debts and student loans. At this time there is about 82 Trillion Dollars in the US Treasury and more than
            27.5 Trillion Dollars in European Banks that belong to We The People.
            These funds to us. Join the Republic; learn how to access these funds and restore America for our Children and Grandkids.

            http://www.republicoftheunitedstates.org

        • JUKEBOX

          Many of the Government schemes and regulations are designed to control the population by planned obsolesence. Doctors, for the most part are not really interested in making people well, only slightly better. This is analagous to buying a car that never has to be repaired, or any other mechanical device. There would be no work for any type of repairmen. If doctors solved all of our medical problems, there would no need for them or the drug companies.

          • Carol Dines

            Sounds a bit jaded. Most people in the health care community from the Doctors to the guy who disposes of contaminated medical health care materials, want to help people become healthy and prevent spread of disease and in the process make a living doing what they consider caring and noble work. Occasionaly you might come across someone who would fit your description, but usualy people like that are not admited for schooling by testing, performance and attitude reviews of students.

          • kate8

            Carol – Many people go into medicine with good intentions (although there are also those who have gone into it for the money and prestige, too), but they become jaded quickly. There is so little they can do other than render palliative care, which only results in more problems.

            I think it is correct that the medical system has become an arm of BigPharma, which is owned by BigBro and the world elite.

          • Richard Pawley

            What you say reminds me of Smith Wigglesworth, a plumber whose wife was a minister and he eventually became one too. He had a healing ministry in Great Britain about 75 years ago. So well known was he for the laying on of hands and the healing that frequently followed the doctors in Sweden petitioned the king to not allow him into their country when local Christians wanted him to pay a visit. The doctors were afraid Wigglesworth would heal everyone and they would be out of business for good. The king did not want to forbid him to come into the country but he had the medical profession to contend with so he got them to agree that he would allow Wigglesworth to visit Sweden and preach as long as he agreed not to lay hands on anyone. Smith agreed although he did not know what would happen or what to expect as this had always been a part of what he did. About 5,000 people showed up including many in law enforcement to see that Smith did not pray over anyone. Smith was of course disappointed that there would be no healings but he had agreed not to pray over anyone. He had not been preaching very long when he heard the Holy Spirit say to his spirit of inner mind and say, “Ask all who would like to be healed to raise their hands.” (I’ve been in an assembly of people a bit larger when something very similar happened). Anyway Smith Wigglesworth repeated what the Lord had spoken to him. He did not break his word or embarrass the king and he was as surprised as everyone else when several hundred people raised their hands were healed of various ailments (At the time he thought that the laying on of hands was a necessary part of God’s healing). You say that “If doctors solved all of our medical problems, there would no need for them or the drug companies, but with the crappy GMO foods and all the over processed foods with far less nutrients than existed decades ago, there will be no problem with having enough sick people. Some 46% of doctors have said they will change professions or leave the country if the inferior health care plan that congress passed last March actually is forced upon the American people. Interesting times we live it and they are getting more interesting all the time.

          • kate8

            Richard – I experienced this while attending a couple of Benny Hinn crusades. While I know he’s gotten a bad rap from many churches, he is a great example of the workings of the Holy Spirit.

            Contrary to what many say, he does not lay hands on people and they get healed. People get healed by a personal touch of the Holy Spirit during the course of the service, and he touches them when they come up to give testimony to their healings.

            I saw many healed with my own eyes. My daughter was healed, and has remained healed for over six years now, in every way. I know a man who was about to be given treatment for end-stage leukemia, and decided to go to a crusade first. That was 10 years ago, and he is still well.

            It is not the faith healer who heals, and they will tell you this. It is a person’s own faith, as Yeshua said.

        • Strawberry Shortcake

          Hey here’s a link on youtube for that documentary I was talking about if anyone is interested.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCcM1YoU8zM

        • TRUE PATRIOT

          These are the same conversations that went on 70 years ago only it was the Jewish community in Europe that was having them primarily! They also thought that the unthinkable could never happen to them! Then little by little it came down to them being marched off to the concentration camps! Did the tyrannical nature of events have a different face? Sure, but the out come will still be the same! Just wait for martial Law and more foreign troops to be ushered in while our troops are all being kept busy on foreign soil! Why do you think that all retired and former military are being listed as possible threats? Threats to who hmmmmm…. I wonder. Look at the laundry list of factions that the government has taken control of or is gaining control of and you will see how free you really are! There were more passports sold to Americans in 2010 than in any other year prior, why do you suppose the sudden interest in travel? I dare anyone to try and get information about the federal reserves activities in the last 3 years! No one is allowed to peer into that snake hole! If you want to kill a snake you don’t chop off the tail you have to cut off the head!

        • who cares

          Under the Bush administration Republicans had the Congress, senate and Supreme court. They enriched them self and their Corporation. Started two wars flush the U.S. down a toilet. Under chaos 17 Semi trucks loaded with trillions of dollars missing, allowed bank to steal american blind. All this under Republican rule. You people Blame the Democrats????????????????????? whats wrong with this picture???? You must be brain dead!!!!!!!!!!

      • herman richardson

        if you believe that crap i have some swamp land in the desert!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • James

          Herm, Why did you buy that?

          • JUKEBOX

            They probably sold him quicksand and told him it was swampland!

      • Xombie Stomp

        I think we’ve seen just what little voting does. It’s time for a new solution, including hot tar and a healthy dose of feathers.

      • ONTIME

        It is a fond wish to vote the rascals out but until we reclaim the rule of law voting will be a pacifier with few teeth, the corrruption within our infrastructure has added dry rot to the timber and until Americans decide enough, then we are spinning our wheels in mud.

      • http://www.apostolictorahstudies.com Rex

        LOL LOL LOL LOL, for all you sheeple that believe that our votes count are sheep with their heads in the sand. Washington WANTS us to believe this sham, just so they can continue doing what they do best, is screw the American people.

        As long as Americans believe that their vote counts this allows the government to continue to run rough shod over the American people. How many things has the President or Congress did or not do because of an election? They just wait until an opportune time to ram unconstitutional bills down our thoughts, just like this recent lame Congress, by getting DADT passed and allowing sodomites to serve in our military, and other things that people clearly did not want.

        Keep dreaming your lallybys, keep watching the silver ball swing back and forth, back and forth, you’re getting sleepy, very sleepy.

        It’s funny reading people’s comments on changing their President, and Congress, sheeple REALLY believe that the people are in control. LOL LOL LOL

        • lallyby

          Leave us not forget that 33.7 million firearms are out in the publics possession.No ohter nation in the history of mankind is as well armed as the American public.It is likely that no other military is as well armed as the American public.Tanks and planes can only be used as long as they have fuel.Texas has the fuel.First place the millions of troops invade is Texas.(I do not condone or advocate the overthrow of the Constitutional government of the United States)But if I did,Texas would be the place to go and anywhere there was refineries.That way you’d force them to use foreign aid to fight the citizens,rendering their federal government null and void.In which case you win the sympathy of the military being used against you.They jump to our side and we retake our nation back from the Feds.

      • Carol Dines

        This only works if we vote for the right people.

        If we could have term limits in place so that people do not have time to “rot on the vine” after being elected and put in the apple barrel with already rotten fruit.

        What I mean is if a person decides to become a Lifelong Politician, he/she will study Political Science get elected localy and then move up a step at a time, always with limited time at each step and must move on or out depending on the job performed for the public at each level, it would give us a chance to know and review the work effectiveness, attitude, political associations and honesty shown by each candidate for public office.

        • Brian

          “Political Science” is that a course you have to take to do what they are doing. Ther it is the problem we all have been looking for “Political Science” Is this ware we get “Politically Corect”

          • Carol Dines

            Political science is the study of our governmental systems, it includes the documents of the the United States Government, how the system works, and American History. Depeding on which State you live in, it would also include the same information about that State and its own history. Apparently this information has not been read by members of the last Congress and the House is about to have the Constitution, in its entirety, read to it when the new Congress meets. Its about time they know what is in our founding documents, don’t you think?

        • http://none Mike

          Carol, Term limits = Garlic for Vampires. You are not going to get any of them to touch that. Once they get there and find out just how cushie the lobbiest make it for them. They immediatly start looking to their re-election campagins. Mike L.

          • Richard Pawley

            Once the rich ran for congress but it seems that many in the past few decades have looked at having a position in congress as a place to get rich. However, if we keep electing the same people then we are the ones who are allowing this. We can’t just vote and the take off for the next two years. We have to stay engaged and keep up with what they are doing. We are ultimately responsible for what we allow them to do.

          • Carol Dines

            Mike,
            I agree with Richard.

            I would run for office if I didn’t find having to argue with people a major pain, besides nobody would vote for me.

            I think we should legalize all sorts of “bad” things which would take the profit out of drugs, prostitution, giving us a chance to control the spread of disease, drug addiction and reduce crime.

            I would allow more easily obtained work visas so people would not have to come here illegaly thus reducing the criminals who are causing problems for both Mexico and the US on the boarder.

            I would try to pass HR 25, the FairTax, so that we would all get to keep what we earn, until we spend it. This provides for the elimination of the IRS, gives each Natural born or legalized citizen of the country a pre-bate check which neutralizes the cost of taxes on food, clothing and medicine, which gives poor people and those with numerous children a leg up, pays the States to collect the taxes payable to the US Treasury.

            This has been researched and will bring in more taxes from those who do not pay now and is the exact same percentage on the dollar for everyone.

            It is beleived that this will over time pay off the national debt, if congress does not increase it at will, provide for Social Security and all other obligations the US has now, or at least prior to Obama, Palosi and Reed.

            No need to have a tax accountant to figure your taxes, no need to store tax doccuments, don’t worry, accountants will still be needed, government workers will be reassigned to different services of a similar nature, they just won’t have to replace many for awhile.

          • http://none Mike

            Richard and Carol, While I agree with you in princple. It just seems to me that we have gone from citzen servant to paid politician over the years. Lobbiest and special intrest groups have made the political office a well paid position.In turn the politician now works for them not us. You can see this in the bailouts recently given. The lobbiest companies recived the bailouts while the smaller companies were left to die.

            While it is our responsibility to vote these people out. It seems to take us a major outrage to finally do it. They have awoken alot of us out here in the flyover country with this recent behavior. I can only hope that more stay awake through 2012. We must maintain a degree of vigilance and truly watch how these people vote. In order to maintain and support any change that we recive. If not it will be too easy to revert to politics as usual. Mike L.

      • Ellen

        P.Fort: our votes will accomplish nothing because the shadow government owns it all. Even if we got rid of every office holder, the shadow government would still be there pulling the strings.

        • Carol Dines

          Giving up makes it so.

      • http://google Annie Mae

        The system is on life support right now from corrupt voting. The dead, dying, disgusted and we don’t even have to be a citizen are voting. The voting system is a poseidon. We are upside down in other words and drowning. We are destroying all creation and will return to the sea.

    • FreedomFighter

      The evil “sinistra”.

      The demontoad Pivens now grins with vicious, sharp little teeth.

      Maybe its time we as Americans boldly, loudly point out the enemy within, take out adds on TV showing what the evil ones say themselves are planning, call them out, show Americans with education, declaration, church gatherings information services, internet. I dont mean just Glen Beck, take a note from evil george s, plaster the media communication pathways.

      Bring on the campain of words, the evil “sinistra” fade to impotence in the light of truth.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

      • DeJay

        FF The media won’t accept those kind of ads cuz they are part of the problem.

        • Brian

          besides who’s paying for it lets see maybe we can get the government to pay for these addes, wouldn’t that be a joke ( on both of us )

      • http://google Annie Mae

        The people you speak of really know what is happening. And, you cannot deal with the truth.

    • hflashman

      Hesus H. Christ. The wailing of the sheep is deafening by those who cheered as the GOP and past administrations placed us where we now sit the current situation.

      Egads..the very ones who warned and fought against the entrenchment of classes, the growth of power concentrated in the ealthy and the Big Corporate structure, the very ones who showed with hard data how the Middle Class was becoming an Underclass … those were denigrated and insulted with yells and screaming of ‘communist’, “Socialist’, “traitor” … and now, as what they warned was occurring is beginning to become apparent…the very people WHO CHEERED it on are now the wailing sheep crying tears of “woe is me”.

      Heck…even as recent as the tax battle in DC…when there was a movement to start reining in the abuses of the subsidies we are giving the wealthy…when the fight was to prevent giving the wealthy special tax status and to begin evening out the debt repayment and the ongoing costs of keeping this scoiety…posters on ths board are almost in unison stating the wealthy SHOULD be given this special status entrenching the system into givning them a free ride on our backs.

      I’m alrmed as I always have been at the takeover of government by monied interests (both foreign and domestic). I’m disgusted at the open hypocrasy of many posters here who wail today, yet cheered yesterday and in all likelihood will cheer tomorrow however their programmers instruct them to.

      Examine what your darling GOP stated this weekend as they announced thier attack on government spending. Where are they aiming? Not agauinst the power of corporations. not against the massive subsidies we give those corporations. Not against the concentrations of wealth. Nope…they’re aiming right at you. The “evil” they are attacking to curb spending is everything you benefit from. Nothing is sacred if it affects you…yet everything affecting the wealthy and the Big Corporate powers is “off the table”.

      Think about that. You cheered and voted for the very party and power structure which gave us what you’re wailing and crying about today.

      Think hard about that.

      • castaway

        I am trying to remember some of your past posts, and I believe you were for the Democrats. The Democratic party has become the communist party and the Republican Party is still stuck in a rut. I voted Republican and independent, Mostly with very little hope it would do any good. Well,I knew it would be much the same even though there was a power change. However, the left has become so very corrupt, immoral, anti christ,and just so disconnected from the population, that it will not survive.

        I knew we needed a regime change, and the first order of the day was to overpower and disrupt the enemy, or the left. Next order of the day is to deal with the Republicans, who are somewhat left without direction.

        I still say the same today as I did before, lets get on with a good blood and guts revolution, that will rid this country of the left, and get us on the path to reconstruction.

        So Mr. Flashman you are still part of the losing communist left, and me and a lot of others are on the “I’m gonna kick your ass team”, so you have a nice day and think about the bullets that have your name on them as well as the rest of you commies.

        • JC

          If you pay any attention to Flash over a period of time, you will see that he generally offers no solution but attacks everything American and Constitutional. He spends his time railing against the conservative right without any examination of the left. For him it’s all about left vs. right with no attention paid to the real issues of Globalist intervention on both sides. He’s a dyed in the wool Communist whether he see himself that way or not. Which is sad because if nothing else, he’s certainly passionate…wrong, but passionate.

          • hflashman

            Hey JC…I offer solutions. Realistic ones. I don’t attack America and the Constitution..rather i defend both against the traitorous statements placed on this board day after day, time after time.

            Given your statemets, your failure to offer any realistic solutions, your constant denigration against anyone with reason…there is but one conclusion to make about you. You’re one step away from full fledged membership in a lunatic asylum…or you’re a plant by the controllers of the robotic Right out to keep Americans from the truth.

            Which is it?

          • JC

            Never known you to have any real or workable solutions Flash.
            I’m all about restoring America and its Constitution.
            Starting with a clean sweep of the system that we now suffer.

          • Vigilant

            Flush says, “Hey JC…I offer solutions.” Perhaps you’d be so kind as to point out ONE solution offered in the diatribe that started this thread?

            You can’t? I didn’t think so.

          • hflashman

            Vigilant: You pick this one thread out of how many? Yet…even so you may well wonder what being against the special status given to the wealthy in taxation. You may well wonder about the GOP call to attack benefiial programs for us…and leave untouched those that subsidize Big Corporations and the wealthy elite. If reversing those aren’t solutions being offered….what is? Demanding something insane such as doing away with the Fed…which would bring down the entire economic system? That’s what you see as a solution?

          • Vigilant

            “That’s what you see as a solution?”

            Flush, I wasn’t aware of offering a solution. YOU were the one denying you didn’t offer solutions.

            Keep on subject, son.

        • hflashman

          Violence is the refuge of the incompetent. And like all toothless bullies, Castawy likes to talk big, think small, and sit in a corner making Wee Willie into Big Bill letting everyone else do his thinking for him.

          Let’s see…Big Corporations, the wealthy, the entrenched elite, the monied sources foreign and domestic…those are the powers which donate to …hmmm… the GOP. Those are the sources that produce the lies you are told as to every program designed to weaken their grasp on power and control over our lives…and Castaway..in some pervesion of logic…says it’s the fault not of the GOp since reagan…not of the sheep and robots who supported the isane programs controlling us and cementing a permenent ruling class in place…but the Democrats and fighters for our freedms, liberties, and Rights.

          Go figure. If Castaway isn’t a plant to keep y’all from actually thinking about all this….then he’s an idiot and a charlatan.

          • Jeep

            hflashman, you lie…repeat the lie…and then, lie again…The fact is Democrats received almost twice the donations from “wall street” donors than Republicans. Undisputed. Stop lying, nerd.

          • Doug Olinger

            @ Flash man. All I can say about the monied influence on the situation we live in is ‘George Soros’!

          • wayne

            hflashman, the big corporations give you, and many more, jobs, to feed your family. I still have not figured out how a poor man could give anyne a job. Could you please explain that? If that is the case, why are there so many people out of work. It seems like to me there are enough poor people out there to give them all jobs. The last part of this is being facetious, or course. Maybe that is what you trying to do here.

          • Vigilant

            “Violence is the refuge of the incompetent.”

            Well, I guess you figure the people who fought the American Revolution were just a bunch of incompetents.

          • RNinRno

            Flashman, you talk about the right being lead by corporate greed, this is just the illusion the left wants you to believe. Look at history and read you have been bamboozeled. The left is the party of corporate greed why else do you think their angle child Obama bailed them all out. The progressive left has rewritten history via the media which they own and has lead you to believe they are the good guys so you will support their communist ways. This is also how Hitler, Stalin and Mao all got power. Open your eyes, read, relearn history the way it REALLY happened. Did you know the left was against the civil rights act, they have completley changed history so blacks believe the opposite is true. Then they continue to support legislation that keeps the blacks poor and uneducated to get their votes and keep themselves in power. It is all a lie and nothing will get better unless you educate yourself to the truth!!! I am not defending the current legislators on the Right, but at least the Right has always undeniably defended the Constitution. The progressive Left has ulterior motives!!!!!

          • hflashman

            Wayne;

            Who buys the products? If you have no Middle Class to buy products, how can there be a demand for the industry to create those products? You can’t, unless you want the result to be a population of small Middle Class, and large lower income classes and a very small upper income class to concetnrate the wealth and power and rule. Frippin’ idiot.

          • Vigilant

            RNinRno,

            You bring up an excellent point.

            Flush, do you know who started the KKK? Do you know who voted down every act of the post Civil War Reconstruction that gave blacks numerous opportunities they otherwise would not have had? Do you know who voted against EVERY civils rights initiative from the Civil War UP TO AND INCLUDING The Civil Rights Act of 1965?

            DUH, yeah, it was the Democrats. And those are indisputable FACTS. The leftists can try to change history, but so far, they’ve not been able to change the voting records of their party in Congress.

          • John

            Yep. Flashman’s a commie.

          • Richard Pawley

            I don’t even think that the person who calls himself Flashman is a person although he might be. I suspect he is a group paid to write all he writes. If he is an actual person he is obviously a left wing Marxist progressive who is envious of those who are better off than he is and he thinks with all his education he deserves more in life (the entitlement philosophy of the progressives). I would say instead of arguing with him here use your time to write actual letters to your representatives in Congress and let them know how you feel about issues. Republicans will at least listen, the Democrats honestly believe they know better so they probably won’t but like spoiled children you are at least telling them what they should be doing and there is a chance, a small one I grant you, that it will eventually sink in, or maybe it won’t. The sad thing is that they really believe if they could just take away all the money from those who earned it that the world would be a better place, like the Old Soviet Union, China, or Cuba today. They think that by giving to those who won’t work or who believe they are better off being peasants and slaves that they are doing a good think being the master and caring for these poor people who are richer than the average person on this planet and richer than most middle class in over half the world. Americans created great things because we were free and we knew our freedom came from God, not the government as those in Europe believe. Such people cannot conceive that their policies are eating away at the very fabric of our modern society like acid in a metal ship. Facts mean little to those in the cult of Marxism. They are overeducated in theory but with no practical experience to temper their idealism and imagined God-like wisdom. Trying to reason with them is the same as trying to reason with religious cult members. Tell them that all governments combined in this nation (town, city, state and federal are spending more than combined incomes of EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES, rich and poor alike and they will simply dismiss it as impossible (a 100% tax on everyone would be required to keep us from going more into more debt, and the only alternative is greatly reducing the size and scope of government. Since they believe government is god they want more not less and the end result will be akin to bankruptcy or at least the massive tax of inflation. Tell them that raising the minimum federal wage will result in more citizens being laid off, especially young ones and black and Hispanic ones and they will just get angry like a cultist who is told you don’t have to belong to their group to get to heaven. The people who pay Flashman to write what he writes simply do not understand that what they are trying to achieve is a heaven on earth where man is God and has no need of any other. Since this is such a perversion of the nature of man who is a spiri and has a temporary body it can only end in the death of millions and utter failure like Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia, and even Red China or on a lesser scale Cuba. What the 111th Congress squandered will take us 2,700 years to pay off if we spend just two million dollars a day doing it and it was interest free. We must not let the 112th Congress continue to destroy the dollar and the economy. We must not let this nation be torn apart because our representatives had no guts to say no to the UNIONS and the big multi-national corporations and the International Society of Socialists and all those who think the China and Russia and Cuba and Venezuela are so wonderful. The world is fast approaching a cross roads and only a return to honesty, morality, and freedom can save our nation and the world. We may have passed the point where it can be saved without another major world war and that is what some see coming. Many of the Marxists feel that the population is to big and needs to be reduced. Some are buying up food to survive during the coming hard times, famine and war. I do not know the answer but write your representatives and you will doing more to save your country than you know, though not as much as if you pray for your country. Hard times caused by the squandering of our nation’s monies, borrowed and taxed, by both Democrats and Republicans are coming, and any who are just crying in their 1961 Chateau Lafite Rothchild and not preparing to take care of themselves will find the government a few years hence quite incapable of taking care of anyone. It’s going to be like it was in the days of the pioneers out west and there is not a lot of time to prepare. I wrote 25 pages in one book and an entire second book just on what is going to happen and why. Remember, doing nothing because you can’t do a lot is foolish to the extreme. God, the one and only, is always there for those who are humble enough to seek Him but while you can convince yourself and deceive yourself you cannot deceive Him. He is no respecter of persons and He waits patiently for man to turn to Him for his help. He treasures freedom and free will more than we do I think. When we are finally ready for Him we will find that He has been waiting for us all along but He will not force Himself upon anyone, unlike some of His people. If you truly want to know what God is like all that is necessary is to read the gospels about Jesus. Those who refuse to consider that not only does God exist but that He loves us are to be pitied but they are creating their own hell, much like the one that Dr. George Ritchie saw in his famous life after death experience. Best to keep out of their way.

        • Wanda Murline

          What you are going to see is the assignation of congress members and others like Soros, Ayers, Jeff Jones, Piven . There are a lot of angry mislead and some short of a full basket out there that will eventually take the law into their own hands. It is coming, there will be a shot heard around the world and America will be in a full revolution against their tyranical government just as our forefathers rallied against the King of England…do not underestimate the American people…they will stand and fight for their country against all traitors, foreign and “domestic”. The real question will be whether or not the military is on the side of the people as provided by the Constitution, or will take orders from the domestic enemy, the government.

          • mr. myth

            Wanda, they don’t need the military, they’ve been militarizing our police forces for a long time. They’ve been conditioning the Am. sheeple with decades of wrongful police behavior and empowerment over the people. Trust me…any revolt, reguardless the numbers, will be crushed before it amounts to nothing more then, what they’ll say were terrorist attacks. Which will of course give them justified reason to put troops in the streets to help combat any further outbreak.

          • http://none Mike

            Mr. Myth is probly right on this one the people have been effectivly disarmed. And here lately if you buy more firecrackers than allowed you get investigated for haveing explosives. The clamps are there so we must find another outlet for a voter fed reveloution. It starts with citizen oversight of the polling places. Not SEIU and Black panther oversight of said places. It also starts with a viable 3rd party. Keep in mind what I said a few months back. We get the best of the new guys to switch party affiation mid stream. It may weaken them at first but the message would be sent to others out there that the tide is changeing for 3rd parties. Mike L.

          • Carol Dines

            I hope you are wrong. That kind of conduct would only give them an excuse to go to Martial Law, and that would be the end of us.

        • JUKEBOX

          I wonder if Flashman has ever noticed how much personal wealth the Communist dictators throughout the world have. They, for the most part live in opulence, while their subjects live in abject squalor.

        • Carol Dines

          You are so right, unfortunately most of the real Democrats are as yet unaware that thier party has been userped. When they do wake up to this fact, I hope they will support the Libertarians since they seem to dislike the Republican party so much. Libertarians are a conservative party, always supporting the rights of the individual and working to limit Government.

      • DaveH

        Okay, Flashdunce, it’s time for you to explain to us what was done wrong in the past.

      • DaveH

        Flashdunce said “posters on ths board are almost in unison stating the wealthy SHOULD be given this special status entrenching the system into givning them a free ride on our backs”.

        “a free ride on our backs”? It is quite the other way around:
        http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html

        • JUKEBOX

          I wonder how many welfare recipients have ever given Flash a job. Oh, I forgot, Flash probably is on welfare, without a job.

          • DaveH

            He is much too enthusiastic about spreading his manure to be anything but feeding at the trough somehow. I suspect Government employee.

        • Dan az

          Dave I wished I knew how you find these sites there great!and form that site I found that today the national debt just reached 14 trillion.I would guess that the guv isnt going to get smaller before the break the bank!

      • http://charter howe

        If your belief system is similar to the liberal progressive democrats like Obama, Pelosi and Reid, nothing will change your ideological obsession with the unconscienable spending of the democratic majority in the house and the senate which has gone on for four years. The notion that unfunded spending will provide for economic security, jobs and adequate funding for entitlements is such a pathetic fantasy that it borders on criminal. Our society is getting beyond compromise when you see people acting like animals to preserve an unsustainable way of life. If you do not believe that our best chance to become economically independent and keep our freedoms is to persists in the idea that the free market system, the constitution and the laws of the land give us our best chance, then we will watch the geatest nation on earth tank. The number one enemy to our Republic is the do nothing politicians who persue legislation that allows WE THE PEOPLE to become a society of entitlement slaves instead of a society of paycheck recipients. It will be interesting to see what the new House of Representatives will do to change the course of this dilemma.

        • DaveH

          It doesn’t just border on Criminal, Howe. It is Criminal. It is not their money to spend.

      • DaveH

        One response I might get from Flashdunce is that our military spending as a result of being involved in two useless wars is bankrupting our country. I think that is correct. But has Obama (who said he would in his campaign) changed that? No.
        Another actually was stated in Flashdunce’s comment, that we are giving subsidies to the corportations. Did Obama change that? No. He increased it. Those who think the Democrats are champions of the Poor are sorely deluded. They toss the poor just enough crumbs to get their votes. That is all. Here is reality:
        http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/2008/10/13/the-rich-support-mccain-the-super-rich-support-obama/

        • Jeep

          DaveH, we agree on many things, but your constant railing about the cost of “two useless wars” needs to be re-examined. The total budget for the Department of Defence (about 720 bil) is still third behind Health and Human Services (about 860 bil) and Social Security (about 750 bil). The total war costs are estimated at 144 bil last year, with less budgeted this year. While I totally agree that much money has been wasted and mismanaged, I think the benefits are a worthwhile investment. It’s okay, we can disagree on the merits of the current conflict. But, it seems to me, that HHS and SS need much more attention. Have a good day.

          • DaveH

            Jeep,
            I didn’t say there weren’t other budgetary items that also needed addressing. Did I?
            Yes, indeed, useless wars. They are not protecting our freedom with those wars. If anything they are endangering us by building up the stockpile of enemies against the US. And by empoverishing our nation which, if continued, will result in the United States being very vulnerable to those pent-up enemies.
            With Social Security, which is indeed a very large budgetary item, remember that they took that money from us with the promise of protecting our future. So they can’t just cut that budget. They should, however, quit throwing good money after bad and butt out of young peoples’ retirement choices.
            Federal Expenditures:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_federal_budget#Total_spending

          • DaveH

            Why are we fighting a war 10,000 miles away when stuff like this is going on in our own backyard?
            http://sixthcolumn.blogspot.com/2004/12/dearborn-michigan-americas-muslim.html

          • Jeep

            DaveH, my friend, having been directly involved in this fight since BEFORE 9-11, I can tell you with confidence that it is a worthwhile fight. (As an aside, I think we could be conducting the war better to maximize the benefits.) Of course, you don’t have to take my word on it, but I think I have a very clear picture of the consequences were we to not conduct the effort. Keep in mind that the war reaches far more than just Afghanistan or Iraq. President Bush called it the “Global War” for good reason. It’s just that the current fight in Afghanistan is the most visible.

            Also, I know that you are concerned about the many un-Constitutional expenditures as am I. I did not mean to infer otherwise.

      • DeJay

        The wailing sheeple have had a long time to wake up and it appears most never will. George Washing and Thomas Jefferson made statements that should have been a wake up call. Later Lincoln and Isenhauer made similar remarks of the problems we could have if we didn’t take our freedoms seriously. No one seems to take notice.

      • Brian

        Hesus H. Christ. The wailing of the sheep is deafening by those who cheered as the GOP and past administrations placed us where we now sit the current situation.

        This statement is somewhat right But lets see who has spent and spent and given to the wealthy the ones who put them into office adn the to the VOTER Both parties have don that so to try to protect the Dem’s is about as week as I have seen. At least the Republicans listened to the people or should I say the new Republicans not that any of those rascals are going to do waht the people want.

        The End is near! I for one know whare I am going when it’s all done. Thank God!

        Do you!

      • voice of reason

        Mr. Flashman…. I truely wish you could open your mind to understand how capitalism works, what makes it successful and how it relates to basic human nature.

        I “get” your railing at the rich and corporations, peoples greed, and that class inequality seems “unfair.” That is the mantra of socialism and it seems so noble a cause and SEEMS to make sense when you look at it on the surface…. unfortunately however, real life is far different than the fairy tale socialism and progressivism provides.

        I constantly see your posts railing against the rich. My friend there will ALWAYS be rich and poor…. you cannot “eliminate” this class inequality. As long as humans exist there will always be those who are successful and those who are not. Those who are achievers and those who are not. Those that are privileged and those who are not…. winners and losers. Welcome to human nature. The wealthy in society are the ones who PROVIDE JOBS. The government DOES NOT. The top 5% earners in our society pay MORE THAN HALF of income taxes already! ONLY FIVE PERCENT! That isn’t enough for you? The top 50% of earners pay ALL of our income tax. Half of our country doesn’t contribute AT ALL! The wealthy are what drives capitalism and make it work… You act as though they need to be punished for being succesful. You just don’t get it, and I’m sorry. Contemplate this quote from Winston Churchill because it is absolute truth.

        “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”

        That’s right… instead of just having “rich and poor” all it does is make EVERYONE poor…. is that what you want?

    • Tea Leaf

      J.W. I’m with you! Clean out the joint, our congress should want it done more than it’s citizens. Obama did not win by the popular vote but by the electoral college. When America’s population was small and consisted of 13 states (roughly) the electoral college made sense, now with a massive population spread about 50 states the E.C. no longer makes sense. Does anyone really believe the populations of California an New York will actually unite to rule over the rest of us? The popular vote (majority) should decide elections, not a handfull of corruptable and/or greedy individuals. America will never have justice as long as the all three branches of government are controlled by the same group of political thugs!!!!

      • Tea Leaf

        The unthinkable happen before our eyes in 2008 and continues to happen, our government was hijacked by a man and his group of spineless worshipers. They seek control of ever aspect of our lives and have achieved more control over us now than ever before! The financial collapse of America is where we are being led. Ever see the chicken (normally physically handicapped) who gets picked on by the others until it dies? When america fails, prepare to be kicked while we are down by anyone capable of kicking. As long as the megalomaniac remains in power he will continue to disarm, over-regulate, strangle and over-load our systems ability to cope with the internal assault that he adds to daily. If ever one needed to be thrown out of office and punished for crimes against humanity it is our President!

      • RNinRno

        Tea Leaf you need to learn a bit more about American history, we are not a democracy as many like you want to believe. Our government is a Representative Republic and was set up that way on purpose. Read the 5000 Year Leap, you might learn something. Our founders were brilliant men who understood the failings of democracies and wanted this great Republic to stand forever. It is so sad that people like you portend to be educated when you have no idea of what your are talking about. Again I blame the progressive left of robbing you of your REAL education of how our system works. One of the most important parts of a representative republic is an educated electorate, that is what our founders wanted and before 1903 that is what we had. Now the education has been removed from our schools and it produces ignorant voters like you.

    • oldtimeyman

      The International Bankers, A.K.A.the Federal Reserve in this country, have been financing BOTH sides of every war or conflict since the days of the French Revolution. They also finance BOTH Democrat and Republican candidates in EVERY election.

      Looking to stop political corruption? GET RID OF THE FED.

    • working man

      No, Washington DC will never get the good cleaning out it so
      desparatly needs right now because a significant number of
      Americans are just too concerned about the important stuff like
      who to vote for on American Idol or what new elextronic gadget
      to buy next. Sad, very sad.

    • http://www.DonCordellforPresident.com Don Cordell

      Until we stop electing the Party things in America won’t change. Both Parties have sold us out. Look at REX 84, then Public Law 87-297 to disarm everyone in the nation, then disarm our Military. You won’t believe what is in our future until you research what is already in the plans to destroy the sovereignty of our nation. These politicians are playing for keeps. World wide leaders (the Trilateral Commission) have been working on a One World Government since 1918, or really since 1909 with the Federal Reserve banking system, to run every nation in the world, to reduce the population, to reserve our resources needed by the very rich in the future. Education did not end when you got out of school. Keep studying and learn what treason is in the planning. This is the end of all Freedoms in every nation, as we will find total government control of every aspect of our lives. Food rationing, to feed the world, while the Millionaires put us in our place. Got Guns? They are useless, you will not fight back, because before it gets to that point, the government will just turn off your electricity, gas, water, phones, close the banks, the grocery and the gas stations. In one week you’ll give them what ever they want to get food for your kids. These people have no concern for you, they mean business. Then what will you do? Violence will be met with SWAT teams, and you will go home with your tail between your legs. Violence is not the answer, we must ReVote, and place Patriots in power to rescue our nation, and Restore, not Change America

  • Charles

    ‘Farewell America,’ I have been thinking about these words lately. Thankfully, the Bible has an invitation and directions for investing in a eternal kingdom!!!

    • Gorrie

      It is long past time that “We the People” send the elite class to the promised land.

      • http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland

        Gorrie, it’s time that Christians recognize WE THE PEOPLE and its government of, by, and for the people for the idol it is and start pursuing a government of, by, and for Yahweh.

        See “Bible Law vs. The United States Government: The Christian Perspective” at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/articles.php.

        • Tazio2013

          Ted,

          The crusading christian perspective is a large part of the problem and will NEVER be a solution!

          • BobbyB

            AMEN!

          • Brian

            Tazio2013 , BobbyB Boy when that day comes Every knee will bow yes that includes Tazio2013, BobbyB yes your Right not on this earth until Our Lord and Savour returns! I pray that you will see the light before that day!

          • JC

            maybe Taz…but I’m pretty sure I prefer it to the Crusading Muslim Jihad.

        • Brian

          Bother I am with you on that but it’s not going to happen in the world so if you are saved rejoice it will come about Revilation of John is the best place to start to realy know what is coming I see it coming fater every day 1 our move away form the jews, our Godly nation turning from God, a one world government ( Yea it’s coming can you see it) I see it and Shuter and then Rejoice becase it has to come before my Father returns. Many Blessings to you and yours!

          If you don’t know him please read God’s True Word St John( mathew,Mark, Luke, John) is a good place to start.

      • Al Sieber

        Gorrie, we should them to hell, now, not the promised land.

      • Christin

        Gorrie,
        Al S,

        WE can not send the Godless Elite Ruling Class anywhere… but their wicked ways will get them a permanent ride to “Hell”, not the Promised Land… “Heaven”, when their lives are up if they don’t turn from their wicked ways, repent to God and trust in Jesus.

      • castaway

        Aman to that!

      • Vigilant

        Weiland is at it again. Yes, buy all means, go to that site, specifically to read the comments on the Constitution at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt22.php

        Re the 13th Amendment, he says, “First, I would have endorsed outlawing African slavery because both Old and New Testaments promote segregation rather than integration, “uniculturalism” rather than multiculturalism, and racial purity rather than amalgamation.”

        Yes, that’s the man who is about as Christian as I am an illegal alien.

        • Brian

          missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt22.php
          I tend to not believe this sites information I have seen mixed merrages last better than none and the law that is stated is in the old Testment to the jews it was not ment to take it out of context to meen all people and it was ment to keep is people form bring in the Idols of those other peoples. Do you not know we all come form one mother and one father at the start read it at the begining of the book you like to claim. Read the new testament when Paul is speaking about the meet that was given to the idols that of course didn’t eat was sould to the people of the land some said Christians should not eat of it some siad it was ok Which is right Vigiliant we can twist God’s Word untill the Cows come home but it comes down to one thing do you know him. Try Reading Revilation and see why things ore the way they are. I the birthig pains of Jesuses Return the begining of the end. try not to add to whats writen in his words just read them and understand he loves you and me and everyone whom is reading this and is notreading this and he wants us to know him.

          • http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland

            Brian, Yahweh was not fickle like man, whose *morality* (as found in His Commandments, statutes, and judgments) was something for one people and something else for another people or was one thing at one time and something else for another time. Yahweh is the same yesterday, today, and forever, thus His morality and thus His laws are never-changing.

            If you do away with His moral laws, you do away with His very nature, and if you do away with His nature, you’ve done away with Him.

            For more regarding His everlasting morality as found in His perfect laws(Psalm 19:7-9), see missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt1.php.

            Be careful not to be guilty of Proverbs 18:13.

          • Karolyn

            It does not appear that Mr. Weiland takes the New Testament into account at all! We are all one!

          • http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland

            Karolyn, the New Covenant provided us salvation in and through Christ’s blood-atoning sacrifice and resurrection from the grave instead of by having to observe His laws perfectly as under the Old Covenant, but it did not change Yahweh’s morality. What was wicked and abominable under the Old Covenant(such as sodomy)is still wicked and abominable to Him under the New Covenant, and what is wicked and abominable to Him, is found in His perfect laws, which by the way, according to Hebrews 8:8-10 *is* the New Covenant. Yes, under the New Covenant, they are written on our hearts instead of stone, but, nonetheless, Yahweh obviously intends for us to put His laws (His morality) into practice with our hands and feet for His and His kingdom’s sake.

        • http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland

          Vigilant, regrettably, even most of today’s Christians are more concerned about being politically correct than they are with Biblically correct (i.e., they are embarrassed with Yahweh’s laws and altogether righteous judgments – Psalm 19:7-9), so why should anyone expect you to be any different?

          If what I teach is what the Bible teaches then you have identified Yahweh, the God of the Bible, as a racist.

          Until very recently, miscegenation was almost unheard of – a historic anomaly. But in the last fifty years, like homosexuality, it has become more and more culturally acceptable. This alone should cause people to question it. If it had been Biblically acceptable all along, why has it taken nearly two millennia for Christians to get it correct?

          Typical of people who have rejected their Biblical moorings and who, more often than not, call good evil and evil good (Isaiah 5:20), today’s multicultural society condemns segregation as racist and hateful and promotes miscegenation as something good. Man’s desire to integrate and miscegenate will ultimately destroy the different races and their cultures. In contrast, Yahweh’s Biblical design for man to segregate and remain pure protects and perpetuates the different races and their cultures. So, I ask you, who’s really the hateful racist?

          • Vigilant

            So, I ask you, who’s really the hateful racist?

            You’ve asked that question a number of times, and it still comes back roundly to “you.” Obviously, you have somehow morphed the meaning of the word to something that it never meant.

            Just out of curiosity, how is Sharia Law any different from the hatred and misunderstanding that you teach? In your failure to take any responsibility for your own feelings (you have no compunctions spouting a racial separatism and purity as long as you can hang your hat on Jehovah), and your reliance on OT teachings, you are less of a Christian AT HEART than almost anybody I know of, including some atheists.

            How did you miss out on the NT teachings of forgiveness, kindness, tolerance, understanding? Let me ask you directly, and I’d like an answer, not a cold reference to scripture: how do you PERSONALLY feel about stoning a woman to death for marital infidelity? I’m genuinely interested in your answer, as I feel that would give us all a clue as to the nature of your soul. Do you have the courage to answer that question?

          • kate8

            Vigilant, that response was not only hostile, it was asinine.

            You attack scripture because you have no understanding of it. God said that to those who have not the Holy Spirit in them, it will read like foolishiness.

            This continual need to compare Christianity with Islam just doesn’t wash. One is Love, the other is hate. But you are unable to see this.

            God didn’t want the Earth to be one people, because He knew that would result in tyranny and enslavement. He didn’t want people to all be the same. People are to be ‘stones’, not ‘bricks’. They were all to be unique. That is why He destroyed Nimrod’s plans to rule the world, and will always stop the Nimrods who arise to do the same. He made it so people could not understand each other, as a system of checks and balances.

            Creating a single race and single culture is a Nimrod’s dream. That is why they always endeavor to destroy nationalism and promote a common thought, to integrate the races and form a common people, a common culture.

            Do some research before you attack God’s Wisdom. He always has a reason for doing things the way He does, and it is always for the good of man.

          • Christin

            Very well said, Kate8, very well said.

            No man-made Bricks… just unique Rocks made in the image of God!

          • http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland

            Vigilant, I believe Yahweh’s law is perfect and His judgments altogether righteous, as we’re told they are in Psalm 19:7-9. You obviously do not believe the same because you appear to despise the the God of the Bible.

            As for a direct answer to your question, you and anyone else can find it in “Amendment 8: Bail, Fines, & Cruel and Unusual Punishments?”

            I’m sure you will not like the answer – that’s to be expected – but I’m not concerned about what you like only what pleases Yahweh and advances His kingdom here on earth as it is in heaven.

            And by the way, what you call incessantly plugging my website is merely providing free information in another forum for those interested in researching any issue at hand further.

            Thanks, by the way, for helping to disseminate kingdom material.

          • Vigilant

            Kate,

            My knowledge of the Bible is greater than most any one on this site, I assure you. And I further assure you, attacking scripture is the last thing on my mind. It’s the bigoted messenger in the form of Weiland that gives me heartburn (and heartache too, for that matter). And as proof of that, I’ll bet he won’t tell us his true inner feeling about the case I mentioned.

            If you read his rantings on the Constitution (on his site which he forever uses in this forum to bring business to), and if you agree with him, then you have no respect whatsoever for the miraculous document which formalized the natural rights to life, liberty, and freedom of religion so precious to our way of life.

            Frankly, this man scares me. He would replace the Constitution with a Christian theocracy, there is absolutely no doubt about it. Now you may think that a good thing, but you would be on the other side of MOST Christians who recognize the beauty, functionality and propriety of our system of government (not the way selfish human beings have perverted it, but the system as the Founders intended it to be).

            Weiland would do things to this country that the left wing wackos wouldn’t dream of doing. He’s already intimated that I am an “antichrist.” That’s the sort of accusation they used at the Salem witch trials in 1692, and the sort of condemnation for which King Weiland would have no discomfort in making if his theocracy ever came to pass! There is no middle ground here; you either support the Constitution or you adhere to an Old Testament codex that demands death to non-believers and adulteresses, that specifies racial purity and segregation, that would deny women the right to vote, and a host of other proscriptions and punishments that are more comfortably enshrined in Sharia Law.

            In short, Weiland does no service to the Conservative cause, and is a prime example of what the left is fond of calling “right wing conservative Christian fundamentalists.”

          • Vigilant

            The good Reverend says, “Thanks, by the way, for helping to disseminate kingdom material.”

            I wish I could spread it more ubiquitously than you think. I am confident that anyone who reads your taking on the Constitution will have their eyes opened to the hatred you feel for freedom.

            By the way, you did precisely as I said you would: you didn’t answer the question, did you? You, my fine friend, are a coward.

          • Vigilant

            So I’ll ask it one more time: how do you PERSONALLY feel about stoning a woman to death for marital infidelity?

            When you can answer that without sidestepping or providing references to law/scripture, I’ll consider you at least manning up to your true feelings!

          • kate8

            Vigilant – You are right. I haven’t taken the time to investigate this man’s site. I will when I have time.

            It just appeared that you attacked him, and I found no fault with what he said in his post.

            I would not support a theocracy at this point because there are too many divergent ideas and interpretations of what God said. Personally, I don’t trust any man to tell me what God means or what God wants. I trust what God tells me.

            However, it is also ridiculous to treat God like he has no place in our day to day lives and the workings of our nation. He is not separate from us, He created us, and to deny this makes no sense. There are basic natural laws that we could all agree upon, and beyond that, I suppose it is best left each person’s personal relationship with Him.

          • Vigilant

            Kate,

            I’m in complete agreement with you. Our Republic, and the Founders knew it, would suffer and eventually fall if the people to whom it was given stopped being a moral people. The Christian ethic and the teachings of Christ were paramount in the cultivation of a society that respected the rule of law and yet was wonderfully tolerant of other religions and points of view.

            I use the past tense because I truly believe we’ve fallen away from that. There can be no doubt that the pressures of liberalism, progressivism, whatever you want to call it, have emaciated the respect for law, and have pushed us into a morass of moral relativism that will guarantee destruction of our nation if not reversed.

            My deep and abiding respect for individual freedom and Christianity indeed causes me to become “hostile” when I see charlatans like Weiland who would pervert the meaning of Jesus to build a new tyranny in which individual freedom would perish more surely and quickly than under the hand of communism.

            He implies I am an “antichrist” and imputes interpretations to me as if he could look into my head. Such nonsense is not just sophomoric, it’s downright dangerous, and provides a glimpse of what life would be like under his “wise” theocratic tutelage. The tent revival salesmen have been around a long time, and they will always be around.

            You are entirely right: a person’s profound personal relationship with his/her Maker is the key. In this greatest of all nations in history, I’m thankful every day that I have the freedom to believe the way I do without being evangelized by those who think they know better than I how to conduct my life.

    • http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland

      Charles: “Thankfully, the Bible has an invitation and directions for investing in a eternal kingdom!!!” Amen!, and a part of those directions (Yahweh’s perfect laws and altogether righteous judgments, Psalm 19:7-9)are for here and now, which were subverted when the U.S. Constitution was ratified.

      America is in the condition she is, not because of Washington D.C., but because, as the saying goes, “Christians are so heavenly-minded, they are of no earthly good!” in contradiction to Matthew 5:13-14, etc.

      It’s time that Christians (Yahweh’s Kingdom *ambassadors*) get back to being the salt of the *earth” and a light to the *world,* else we will continue to be trampled under the foot of man.

      For more on this issue, see “Bible Law vs. The United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective” at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/articles.php.

      • Betsy

        Mr . Weiland, What a joy to see you posting on this web-site. I have kept attune of your activities for years. God Bless You.

        • http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland

          You’re welcome and thank you!

        • Vigilant

          Betsy, you might have missed his incessantly plugged website. Check out http://www.missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt28.php

          There it says, “Yahweh’s patriarchal system, whereby male leaders are nominated and then appointed by lot, eliminates any possibility of women leading the nation.”

          I shrink from calling that “enlightened” when he stands for much that the Founders of this nation would have found abhorrent. The truly enlightened action was the passage of the 19th Amendment into law.

          But, then again, Weiland obviously wants a Christian theocracy, preys on the fears of the flock in essentially advocating the trashing of the Constitution. There’s a word for someone who wants to overthrow the government, and that’s “traitor.”

          • Betsy

            I haven’t missed anything that Mr. Weiland publishes/teaches. I am
            quite familiar with his positions and statements, having read for at least a decade his materials.
            It appears that you are quite self-congratulatory on head knowledge,
            but lack depth of The Spirit. I would suggest you get acquainted with
            Jesus Christ, and let His Comforter, The Holy Spirit, lead you into
            all understanding and TRUTH.

        • Vigilant

          And let me add that I have the highest respect for Christianity. Weiland’s brand of religion would seem to be the Elmer Gantry/Jimmie Swaggart/Jim Bakker form of opportunism. Given his statements re the Constitution, can there be any doubt that he is, in his heart, the most unChristian of souls? Antichrist is the word that comes to mind.

          • Vigilant

            For those who might have an interest, you may want to check out http://www.israelect.com/reference/CliftonAEmahiser/studies/Ted%20R%20Weiland-s%20Venom.pdf

            Entitled “TED R. WEILAND’S VENOM !, it has some interesting points to make. I neither endorse nor condemn it, just provide it for your info.

          • http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland

            Vigilant, the *Bible* defines an antichrist as someone who “denies that Jesus is the Christ. He is the antichrist, that denieth the Father and Son” (1 John 3:22) and who refuses to “confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh.” (2 John 1:7)

            This is not a description of me, I believe and confess all of that. How about you? Will you confess that you believe that Jesus is the Christ, the incarnate God, who came in the flesh to redeem man from his sins?

            If you will not respond by doing so, you are an antichrist, and everyone who reads your posts ought to evaluate them by this standard.

          • Betsy

            Okay, Mr. Finger-Pointer, but Lacker of Knowledge. Let me sum this up for you in plain English. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. Men.
            Moses, Daniel, Ezekiel, Isaiah. Men
            The twelve tribes of Israel in the Old Testament. Men.
            The twelve disciples in The New Testament. Men.
            Paul, the Apostle. A man.
            Adam: Created by God. A man.
            Do not call Mr. Weiland an anti-christ when YOU are the one
            promoting FALSE doctrine.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      IMHO there is one big reason that the USA has to fade off the global power scene, and thats to set the stage for the one world ruler.
      Notice I said “set the stage”, because I dont believe its going to happen overnight.

      How the USA gets from “here to there” is the one transition not exactly laid out. There are a few possibilities ranging from Civil war, civil disorder, martial law, to peaceful transition BACK to a constitutional compliant govt. Either way SOMETHING is going to happen and I personally dont believe the globalist elites are going to release their grip so easily.

      There is no profit in an easy transition..there is profit in chaos & disorder. You decide which they will choose and then take steps to protect yourself.

      • Betsy

        Dear Bitter, Let me join you in condolences on the loss of our country. Make lemonade out of lemons: get everyone you know preparing their soil, growing their own food, and teach them how to put it up
        and preserve it. Thanks to columnists and informational articles like
        the ones Mr. Livingston writes; WE KNOW what they are going to do.
        Out fox the fox.

        • Wanda Murline

          I am saving non-hybrid seeds to use in the future. I have been storing food in the event of a collaspe of the dollar, which will empty the grocery stores. America has never know hunger, but it is going to and you had better be prepared to protect yourself and your family by owning and knowing how to use a gun. If the dollar fails, people who are not prepared will empty the grocery stores. It is not that you don’t have the money to purchase groceries, there simply will be nothing on the shelves to purchase. You need to stock at least 3-6 months of groceries … I do this also because we have had three hurricanes over the last five years and it has carried us through. It is not going to be a pretty sight and the seeds you buy at the store are hybrids…only plant one time and their seeds do not grow again. I have a ranch with lots of deer, wild hogs and lakes with fish, so I am not worried, but people get your head together and start today to take care of yourself and your family, just in case.

          • Betsy

            Wanda, Good for you. Only I don’t think there is going to be any IF
            about it. IT WILL happen.

      • Teresa

        Now THAT..was the best put phrase I have read thus far!

      • wayne

        The citizens of this country has allowed this to happen because of their complacency. They need to get their head out of the sand and vote for the right candidates for Congress.

      • Carol Dines

        Whoh! Did you read that book about Obama too??

    • James

      Charles, The Lord’s prayer begins: “Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven…” (Mt. 6:9-13). All of Christ’s parables described an earthly ‘kingdom of heaven (or God)’ a kingdom that’s in progress. When Christ returns, it will come into power and He reigns here on earth for a 1000 years (Rev. 20:4-5).

      • Betsy

        Aye, Mr. James. The Bible also says The Lord is not coming to get us
        until AFTER the tribulation. Kindly read the first 34 verses of Matthew 24 and note the timeline.
        There are people who will make it through the tribulation and are wisely preparing NOW.

      • hflashman

        Why is it when there is a crisis to deal with, discussions to be made, reasonable choices debated…some zealot member of some non decript insignificant christian sect feels compelled to lecture on some religious nonsense of which few suscribe to? When it gets right down to it….christians feel some strange compulsion to push their particular christian preachings on everyone else when there’s work to be done.

        • DaveH

          Why is it when there is a crisis to deal with, discussions to be made, reasonable choices debated…some zealot member of the Liberal Religion gets on here and personally attacks his fellow human beings?
          Why, when it gets right down to it, do Liberals feel some strange compulsion to force their way on other people? Could it be that Free Choice enables those who know what they’re doing to trump those (Liberals) who just spew the hot air?

          • iowaheretic

            DaveH; It sounds like you think “free choice” actually means YOUR choice and NOTHING else!

          • DaveH

            Free Choice, IowaHeretic, as in My Body My Choice. Or My Property My Choice. That choice is not yours, Heretic. If you assume that choice over my body and my property, then you are the Aggressor.

        • Betsy

          Ahhh, Mr. Flash. Too bad you’re so blind. Our God says: If the blind follow the blind, leave them alone. They’ll both fall in a ditch.
          That is also in Matthew.

          • hflashman

            Good for you to have a God that sees a need to tell you that. You may not have realized that on your own … good thing I don’t need your god to tell me that. And double good this nation is one which your god is not foisted upon me. Unfortunately…somehow there are christian sects which state we are somehow a ‘christian nation’ and their beliefs should be foisted upon the nation as a whole…regardless whether people think whatever dogma the particular sect is demanding be heard is as full of BS as all the fertilizer used for the Nebraska wheat and corn crops …

        • John

          Flash that’s because Christians are the majority not the minority. Remember that this country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. What is so hard to believe or understand about that??????

          Are you historically illiterate?

          • http://- Johor

            In the Kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Such a man came to the Eastern Mediterranean 2000 years ago but he didn’t stay alone. He had twelve others with him. As a group they changed the face of world religion. It can happen again and when it does the high and mighty will tremble. In fact they already are and it is because of one man – and his followers. As before he is in the business of revealing the TRUTH about what is going on behind closed doors of government everywhere. When the high and mighty begin to fear for the loss of their highness and mightiness, while they still have their hands on the reigns of power they start to make mistakes like corralling the general public with draconian decrees. For a time it becomes a very painful situation but eventually they realise they are outnumbered. Be patient, but be careful and take thought how to be prepared. Flight is not an option either. Lie low, be patient and wait. It will pass and sensible survivors will be needed.

          • Betsy

            Johor, I sense the wisdom of Jesus Himself in what you wrote.
            Thanks for posting.

      • iowaheretic

        James; Is Osiris coming back to earth also? That’s where the”Lord’s Prayer” actually comes from, word for word, Egyptian religion written centuries before anyone even heard of Jesus. Osiris was also called Lord of Lord, King of Kings, the Good Shepard, ect,ect… as was Mithras and many other “Christ’s” ( which means “savior”). Anyone can look this all up. Absolutely everything in Christianity comes from a compilation of every single Pagan religion from the preceding 8000 years, right down to every detail! Why on earth would anyone want to be ruled by the biggest fraud and hoax ever perpetrated on mankind?

        • Dale on the left coast

          Pull your head out iowa . . . it must be really smelly in there . . .

          • iowaheretic

            Dale; You should know! If you would pull yours out then maybe you could read a little history. If you can read the bible, then you can read about the rest of the Pagan religions to see where everything in the bible came from in the first place ( and I mean EVERYTHING ). Doesn’t it seem strange to you that it’s all the same stories and myths and fables from centuries preceding Christianity? Right down to almost EVERY detail, only the names have changed! It just boggles my mind that people don’t want to know any bit of TRUTH! If “Jesus” is coming, let him, I’m not stopping him. But we both know why that will NEVER happen, don’t we? You know you don’t have to be a “Christian” to fight communism or Islam, don’t you? But it’s the political Religious Reich that started this fraud and continues to perpetrate it onto the American people in hopes that everyone will turn to the lying, theiving “Christian religion” to save them, when they are the main problem in the first place. I have learned my lesson and will (probably) never respond to a hard core christian again in hopes of enlightening them. But I will NEVER fall pray to thier complete idiotic infantile nonsense! If you really think that I’m so full of it, you should try reading everything that Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine wrote, but you might have a heart attack, so forget it. George Washington wrote “I had hoped that liberal and enlightened thought would have reconciled the Christians so that thier religious fights wouldn’t endanger the peace of society.” It’s too bad nobody listened!

          • Karolyn

            Dale – Why would you not want to hear the truth?

        • Teresa

          Isaiah 43:10 (Whole Chapter)
          Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

          2 Peter 2:1 (Whole Chapter)
          But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

          Revelation 19:20 (Whole Chapter)
          And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

          • Betsy

            Way to go, Theresa!

        • Johor

          Osiris? Jesus? Come again? How about Julian A? What will “come again” is the spirit that informs such people and my bet is that it will come in the form of a great many people based all over this planet who are all, in some mysterious way, all of ONE MIND! It will only take 1% of the global population to be of one mind for real change for the changes that are now so earnestly/urgently needed to come about.
          The stupidest mistake being made in Washington at the moment is to focus on Julian A. believing that if they take him out his movement will disappear. 2000 years ago the powers that were then thought that about Jesus. What a laugh!
          The idea behind what Julian has been doing has already taken off like a brush fire. He is not really that important anymore. He is a distraction for Washington to drool over (the equivalent of fiddling while the system burns down. Who was the guy who did that some 1700 years ago?) and continue to lose what is left of their collective good sense.

  • Rosco1776

    This country needs an enema!!
    We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.
    Abraham Lincoln

    • Gorrie

      I do not think much of Lincoln, he went around the Constitution when he thought it best.

      • JP

        … but it was temporary out of necessity to preserve the union, and that he did!

        • Bruce D.

          Lincoln’s corruption exists to this day in the form of Executive Orders. The Constitution was a voluntary compact and he was responsibly for a lot of people dying to make it a mandatory compact. Not a lot of freedom being preserved at the point of a gun. Lincoln also started the first income tax to finance his war.

          • James

            Bruce, bruce bruce…”The Constitution was a voluntary compact,” give us a break.
            Via the U.S. Constitution, the PEOPLE created the national government. Article I created its Legislative Branch; Article II created the Executive Branch; and Article III created the Judicial Branch. In Art. II, only certain enumerated powers were delegated to Congress; and in Art. III, Sec. 2, only certain types of cases were placed under federal court jurisdiction, and the 11th Amendment (of 1795) even deleted two of those.
            The purpose of the Executive Branch is simply to execute the laws passed by the Legislative Branch, but every president has abused that power by expanding on, or ignoring, what a given federal law requires. An example of the latter, is complete failure of presidents to enforce our immigration laws.

          • DaveH

            James,
            The Constitution was a contract between the States. As with any contract, the signers can withdraw if the terms of the contract are violated.

          • Bruce D.

            If it was not a voluntary compact James than force would have been needed for people to sign the Constitution. Lincoln made it a mandatory compact with the use of force. He forced people to give up their right of free association, he forced States to rewrite their Constitutions, and it ultimately lead to the tierney of over reaching regulations that we are experiencing by the Federal Government today. Once you begin to give up some aspects of freedom others are certain to follow.

          • http://none Mike

            Bruce, I once had a social studies teacher. That who when we did something wrong in his class. Made us write articl 2 over and over again. By the end of the year in his class.Suddenly most of his classes could almost recite the constitution ver batum. If there were only more like him today we wouldent be in this mess. Mike L.

          • Betsy

            Excuse me, Bruce and Dave. The OATH to uphold THE CONSTITUTION
            SWORN before The Living God, was taken by ALL that held office
            prior to the Civil War.
            Those who broke that vow denied their word before the same living
            God and His Angels; who bear witness to the vows taken in His Name.
            That denial of their vows explains what happened, and is still
            happening in the states that broke their vow.

        • DaveH

          So, you are saying it’s okay to be immoral, JP, if you think the end result is noble? Note, that I said “think”.

          • JeffH

            Hmmmm, seems someone named Karl Marx thought “the end justifies the means” also.

    • RAY

      ITS NOT THE COUNTRY THAT NEEDS AN ENEMA ITS THAT PEOPLE IN POWER THAT NEEDS MORE THAN JUST THAT. MOST OF ALL THE FOOLS THAT ELECTED THIS MUSLIM INTO THE WHITEHOUSE WHERE HE COULD CELEBRATE RAMADAN W T F UP PEOPLE.

      • castaway

        Ray hand me my rifle, I got one here needs that enema!

      • Carol Dines

        How about term limits including time served applied to the new rule.

        That would be a nice way of cutting out the crusty politicians, equaly applied to the House and Senate.

  • Ronald L. Lyons

    Dear Bob

    I have lived a long life and heard my grandfather speak of the civil war. His father lived during that time.

    America survived and I believe if, the Lord so desires, America will continue to survive. America has more wonderful people than the other kind that make the news.

    America was not built by money but our great people.

    • artinthewild

      All this is true – except the elite part – they just think they are the elite. They work for us – it seems as though they forget that. Except and I am thrilled to hear him speak Tom Cogburn and a fellow named Kelly – they are getting the idea….Term limits. Washington needs to know what is going on out of the bubble they live in. It’s time for those jokers to get out of Washington and live like we do, instead of spending 500,000.00 on a party when people are living in the streets with their families….. They need to take a cut in pay – or more likely need to be let go, there isn’t enough money to keep them on.

      • Christin

        artinthewild,

        Term Limits for Congress… yes, much needed, but who in Congress will put forth a bill and vote to pass that?

        And when we “let them go” either by voting them out or instating term limits… they still get SIX FIGURES FOR LIFE (and great health ins/care not obamacare) …time to end the exorbitant government pensions for Congress also!!!

        The Founders originally meant for the Congress to be governing or doing the People’s business only PART-TIME and then going back to their lives and families in the state in which they are from, not staying in DC and passing corrupt bills in the dark of night on a Sunday before Christmas break.

        So I suggest we also give the Congress part-times jobs in which to accomplish the business of the American People and they get their retirement pension from their occupation (lawyer, doctor, business owner, …) in their state, not on the TAX PAYERS dime.

        • http://yahoo richard

          we have term limits people it’s called elections the problem is everyone thinks their congress critter is ok it’s everyone else that is bad

          • Christin

            richard,
            I think the problem of eliminating Anti-Capaitalist Freedom loving Americans lies with “gerrymandered” districts… the liberal progressives wouldn’t win so many elections if the districts were drawn fairly.
            The real problem is probably with the cold hearts of mankind. If we were men and women of character, honor, and integrity we wouldn’t have so much corruption.

          • Christin

            eliminating Anti-Capitalists WITH Freedom Loving Americans (sorry)

          • Christin

            Yes, you are right no term limits for Congress and no gerrymandering of districts.

        • wayne

          Chistin, for an example, look at Charlie Rangel. He fails to pay his income taxes and other infractions, and he is still voted back in as a Congressman, This sure shows the mind set of the fools who voted him back in. I don’t know how we can ever rid ourselves of idiots who vote in people of unsavory character in a public office.

          • Christin

            wayne,
            Yes, Charlie Rangel, Maxine Waters, Tim Geitner… so many that have broken the Laws that the American people must follow or face the courts and be penalized.

            Possibly a solution to that is to not allow those guilty of a crime to hold office…

            If those American people had any character, honor, and integrity of their own they wouldn’t be voting in immoral shady characters to run our country.

      • DaveH

        Why do people persist in the mistaken notion that Term Limits will right the wrongs? They would be a placebo only. With term limits we wouldn’t have Ron Paul still. With term limits we would be replacing an experienced elitist with an inexperienced elitist. With term limits, we would have a perpetual lame-duck Congress, unbeholden to the voters.
        There is only one real solution. That is education of the voters. We need to get our children out of the Propaganda Schools and send them to non-government schools. We need to learn as much as we can about politics and economics and expose the Liberals for what they are — immoral, thieving, and manipulative human beings. And when I say Liberals, I mean anybody who supports Leviathan Government, whether Democrat or Republican.

        • Carol Dines

          How about the Ron Paul school for Conservative Politicians, with participation by like minded “professors”

      • GeneHusky

        You have got to be kidding..500.000.00.Obama spent 200 million a day taking 3 thousand people with him to visit other countries.He called it his cabinet.It was just a big all expence paid trip to meet with the leaders to further promote one world gov.I have the answer.Pray to God.Ask him to keep are ammo replenished and take back the country and restore the constitution like it was designed.Get rid of the Trade commission,FDA,and the orginazations that got prayer out of school.Post the 10 commanments anywhere you want to.I hear some people down on christians.It is not the christians,it is the imposture christians.If the christians would get some back bone and stand up,they would have more power than any government.There would be no more immoral rules.

    • Betsy

      I would think we are already on God’s doodoo list since we have a foreigner in dc. Unless you are higher than God, tell us how America
      can pay back the money she owes. She can’t.
      And that’s the difference this time around.

      • GeneHusky

        We could get rid of this debt if the corporations would move back to this country.The government moved them out.They need to take the money that they are still hording and give it back to China.I understand it is a few Trillion that they were contemplating on another stimullas.If they get the bail out money back from the banks and remove bonuses not to mention the auto industry,we could make a big dent in the loan.The sad part is that most people are controlled by the dollar.They need to be controlled by God and get back the family values without greed.Using the constitution of our forefathers would help also.I don’t even thing they know where it is.They lost it somewhere along the line.

        • http://none Mike

          Gene,I just got this vision of Jesus throwing the money lenders out of the temple. Now replace that temple with the Capitol bulding. Throw the money changers out and the corruption will go with it. Mike L.

      • http://liberty-tree.ca/research/Billions.for.the.Bankers Will-CA

        Hi Betsy,
        Thank you for your good post on this site. It’s refreshing to see a well informed Christian like yourself taking the time to share your thought’s with.
        As to US debt it doesn’t exist it’s all a big scam. The money changers over and over throughout our history. I read this little pamphlet a little over 30 years ago. I found it today on this site
        http://liberty-tree.ca/research/Billions.for.the.Bankers. It’s very eye opening.
        Please all that read and post here checkout Billions for the Bankers it explains the core of all our problems.
        hflashman I hope you see this I know your views are 180 to mine, but with that said I enjoy your post as well here. You help stir the pot here. Please check it out warning a pastor wrote it and there are a few verse references so just blow by them and read what’s been going on all along.
        If only all of America could read this all this BS could be done and dealt with.
        Happy New Year to all

      • Betsy

        There is another banking crisis coming down the road. The way I understand it, JP Morgan and Bank of America hold approximately
        $2 Trillion in sub-prime mortgages: all coming due in 1-5 years.
        If you think about it long enough, and hard enough; and wrap your mind around the big picture: it is possible these events will bring in the one world monetary system.

  • Munday/TX

    You know what its like when you throw up, you feel kind of sick and then it builds up in your system-pressure, sweating, head spinning, and then there it is. Well if the government keeps shoving crap down the throats of the people of this country-which by the way was made up of rebellels and malcontents from the beginning and the gene has been passed on for centuries-chunks are going to blow and washington will be the recepticle. Prohabition did not work and neither will this for the same reason.

    • Richard

      Munday/TX: I hope you are right. But, how do we get the liberal voters to stop electing the outlaws who are trying to ruin our nation? The more control the govt. gets, the less chance we have of reversing this horrible situation. With their taking control of our food and supplements, they’ve just about hobbled us for good. Yet the liberal voters keep electing the very people, like Obama, Reid and Pelosi, who are pushing the progressive agenda.

      • DaveH

        There are two classes of Liberals — the Political Class, and the rest. Obviously we aren’t going to change the Political Class who are benefitting from the power. But we can change the minds of the rest with well-reasoned arguments. Note that there are Liberals in both major parties.
        We can expose more people to the one principled political party that truly believes in Freedom. John Stossel and Judge Napolitano (on Fox Business Channel) are doing a great job of that. So are websites like mises.org, cato.org, and reason.org.
        We can help that effort by getting informed ourselves to the Individual Freedom, Personal Responsibility, Free Markets, and Limited Government that is promoted by only one Political Party. And then spread the word.
        There are still very few people who understand what the Libertarian platform is and why it would work so well:
        http://libertarianparty.org/platform

        • Johor

          People of a liberal turn of mind tend to think for themselves and take a broader view that includes the welfare of those others around them. They are the sort of people who are not focussed on a set of narrow objectives so tend not to be organised in a coherent way. They also tend to be conciliatory and inclusive of those with different views.
          People of a conservative turn of mind tend to have narrow objectives, generally very self serving and are thus birds of a feather who flock together. In other words they get together to pursue an easily perceived common goal. They are elitist, tend to exclusiveness.
          A liberal was elected to the White House. He wanted to be inclusive. What did he meet? A solid lock of opposition that would not give way.
          Their group interest had priority, not the interests of the nation.
          So how do you now define un-American activity? I think you have to include in that category all those who pursue personal gain at the expense of the country they claim to serve. That is also called treason.

    • wayne

      There are just too many people who now expect the government to give them a hand out instead of woking. The brave folks who started this country, and wrote the Constitution worked very hard, and gave it their best. The people of today are too complacent, and don’t know what the previous generations had to endure to get us where we are at this time in history. I would hate to see all their hard work go down the tube. What we need to do is get back to the values that we once had and accept our personal responsibility. I blame Congress for most of our economic woes we are facing today. Even though this started several years ealier, it has really gone down hill under the Obama Admnistration. I don’ know whether Obama has done this deliberately to ruin our country, or through his inexperience. For the last two years we had a Democratic Congress that would not question Obama, but went along with everything he wanted. Folks, it is time to fire every Democratic that has been in Congress under the Obama Administration and vote in some true patriotics (Conservatives) that love our country. We have to come to the fact that with all the previous spending Congress has done, we are going to have to face some really hard times in the future if we are ever going to this the country back on a good financial track again. Communist China are are laughing at us and still the American Businesses continue to flock to a Communist Country, and else where, to get that slave labor in order to make large profits and neglecting our own workers. Of course, with the Unions never ending demand for more and more, and our government working against them through stringent regulations that most other countries do not have, maybe we deserve what we are getting. I would hope the folks start paying more attention to what their legislatures are doing, but I doubt they ever will. It seems like everyone is too busy in their personal lives to pay attention to the Congress Members.

      • GenEarly

        Reply to:”I don’ know whether Obama has done this deliberately to ruin our country, or through his inexperience.”

        Deliberately.He is an Experienced Marxist.You will soon see his Executive Power unleashed and a resulting Constitutional Crisis,coupled with an Economic Crisis so the Sheeple will give up their freedom for security.2011-2012.

        • BobbyB

          You know, I’m not a fan of Obama by the wildest reaches of the imagination. That said, most of the problems we have were there when he took office. TARP was well under way as were 2 wars and a near total financial collapse that was caused by 8 years of GWB. The Patriot Act was enacted under Bush not Obama. My biggest problem is Obama has not done anything to undue the abuses of the previous administrations. Note I said administrations. This all goes back to the great Ronnie Raygun.

          It’s tragic that it took him being elected to wake 1/2 the country up. If all the staunch defenders of the constitution, freedom, and state rights would have made as much noise as they are now, we might not be in this mess~

          • http://none Mike

            Bobby, No he was more than happy to be handed the infrastructure for our demise.By the other party no less. There isnt a whole lot of diffrence between the 2 for the last 20 or so years. Thats why I finally went Liberatarian. I was an independent who voted both ways in my life who has been dissappointed in the results the politicle class gave me. Mike L.

  • Richard

    Way back in the 1970′s I recognized what was going on with our government and I coined the phrase “The government is protecting us to death”. I also recognized that our own central government is the biggest crime syndicate in the world and wields its power through the IRS and other regulatory agencies. Now that their “protection” has bankrupted us and given the powers that be total control of the People, we are at their mercy. It’s going to get real ugly. Can it be reversed? Maybe. But not as long as the sheeple keep electing progressive, liberal outlaws.

    • TIME

      Richard,

      Thank you for being awake, lets work to fix the problems as best as we can.

    • wayne

      Richard, I agree. Your statement is well said.

    • Al Sieber

      I agree Richard, very good post, I was aware things were wrong in the 1970′s also, but slowly figured it out.

  • Michelle

    I happen to think the war on drugs is an OK war to be fought. I have been to Colombia now three times because my husband is working for an American company there. I have talked at length with local who said that before Uribe, the guerrillas like FARC would kill locals and capture foreigners terrorizing the people. Because of America’s support, the people are now safe and i can visit Colombia with fear of being kidnapped. Colombia has been the leading country in kidnappings. I heard a heart wrenching story from my husband’s secretary on how every year on her grandmother’s birthday, how she recalls how she had to hide in a hole for three days as the drug lords would come and recruit young children for their army and how thankful she is to be alive to see grandchildren. This is worth it to me, however, the draconian food laws do scare me.

    • Hannibal Smith

      It’s wise that with u.s. presence there you still fear being kidnapped.. Be advised that then you will then become their sexual slave Michelle.. Like you, your spouse of course will remain clueless.. Good luck with your new life among the drug lords baby..

    • Megan

      The South American cartels are at work right here in America. Until we curb the demand for drugs here, they will only increase in power on our American soil. Until the majority of Americans wake up to the fact that it is all a part of a plan to end our republic and establish world governance, we are doomed. The first step is to control our borders, kick out anchor babies (there is precedence) and illegal aliens, end our wars overseas, and put our troops at our borders.

      • http://roadrunner jim

        I agree with you Megan. Protect our borders. but the drug wars are lost. We should legalize drugs and or marijuana, control it here and tax the h… out of it. No more border wars and no more mafia..see we cant do that either bercuase of our currupt govt…jd

        • Bruce D.

          I think not legalize drugs but put heavy fines on its use without jail time. Mandatory jail time for sellers. Death penality for those selling to minors.

          • Karolyn

            So what would you do with the people who couldn’t pay the fines. Most drug users couldn’t pay the fines, so they would have to gop to jail anyway. Drug use/abuse will NEVER go away!

          • Bruce D.

            Drugs are not just a poor persons problem Karolyn. Those who cannot pay should be sent to a mandatory rehab center. For some it will help and for others it will not.

          • Karolyn

            Forced rehab rarely works either; however, it is a better alernative than jail and cheaper too. If money was cut from the drug war budget and put into rehab and education, it would help. I have a great deal of experience in this area.

        • Teresa

          first off thats ridicilous, the government makes too much money w/it being illegal. They can take your marajuana, money, car, land (if your growing) and resell if they choose. And also, how would you like bus drivers carrying your children high, or your eye doctor high, or your family physican high?????? Or the cost it would take for rehabs because once children are addicted it will lead to stronger addictions studies finds.

          • Karolyn

            Once again, the panic. If drugs are legal, everyone will be running out and getting high. Those who want to get high will do it no matter what. And not everybody wants to get high. Alcohol is legal. Do you see verybody running around getting drunk? Ridiculous conjecture.

          • Strawberry Shortcake

            Karolyn you are so right. A bus driver (to use one of her examples) can just as easily spike their coffee mug with some whiskey and drive…so the point is moot. Additionally, speaking on marijuana only, do you know how many people are already driving high every day? lmao. I used to smoke it when I was young…driving high on weed nowhere near impairs your senses the way alcohol does. I’m so sick of the drug arguments. If someone is going to use, they are going to use regardless of a law. It’s so stupid.

        • Bitter Libertarian

          Drug Production and distribution is a Business.
          Drug use is a Choice. (Moral or not)

          Drug Business will NEVER be stopped by force, but buy the tactics of how you put a business out of Business. Make Drug production Unprofitable so they will shift their crops to food. Cut its value/prices by over 1000% through decriminalization or legalization.

          Drug use will naturally diminish as supplies/presence dwindle, and realize that certain people will ALWAYS want to use drugs and that does not make them a criminal.

          You dont see Food listed as illegal yet people eat themselvs unhealthy all the time! look at some of the Overweight people and how their children are overweight!

          • DaveH

            One would think that people would have learned from the experience with Prohibition. One would think wrong.

          • http://none Mike

            Dave, Its simple. Thoes who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Mike L

      • Karolyn

        “curb the demand for drugs”??? – That is something that may never happen. Do you have any suggestions? The ONLY way to do that is through even more education starting at even younger ages. Even that will fail unless children are taught more about life in school. The “war on drugs” is not a war that can ever be won. Man has always gotten high. Caveman probably found a leaf that he chewed and found that it made him feel good. The ancients loved their wine. The Mayans chewed coca leaves. We live in a drug society. There’s no way to legislate feelings and emotions and how people deal with them. The only way to cut off the cartels is to legalize drugs and make them part of the economy. There are no concrete answers to this problem. However, education is the most important. GOOD EDUCATION. If the money spent on the “war” was spent on education, it would put a huge dent in drug use.

        • Lyn

          You do know that the elite have structured the education and the material that is taught in the schools. Total brainwashing by the helpless teachers. They want to destroy society and getting people addicted to drugs is just one of their ways.

        • DaveH

          There is only one way to educate people, Karolyn, and that is to let them experience the results of their bad decisions. Protecting people from themselves only perpetuates the repetition of those mistakes.

      • DaveH

        Megan,
        We have been doing that for almost 4 decades. Has it done any good? The drug wars have put Mexico in grave danger by enriching the very people who we least want to have the power of wealth (the Drug Lords). Most crimes committed in relation to drugs result from the criminalization of drug use. Their prices would plummet if decriminalized. That would defund a lot of unsavory people. It would also end most of the crime which results from their high prices.
        As a result of the drug wars, we who know better are caught in the middle between the Constitution trampling Drug Warriors and the Drug Lords.
        And for those who think the decriminalization would result in more drug usage, I ask, why do you think that? Are you going to become a druggy if they are legalized? Alcohol is legal. Are you an alcoholic?
        There have been studies done that show places like San Francisco have a higher percentage of drug usage than in countries where drugs are legal.
        I was a young adult when the Drug Wars started, and I can tell you from personal experience that things were nowhere near as bad before the Drug Wars as they are now. We have let the Political Class use the Drug Wars as a springboard to grow their Power and their Perks. And we have gotten no positive results from giving them that increased power.

    • http://www.missiontoisrael.org Ted R. Weiland

      Michelle, perhaps there’s a better way. See “Amendment 18: Repealed for Good Reason” at http://www.missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt27.php.

      • Vigilant

        Yes, still another gem from the Elmer Gantry of the Internet.

        “http://www.missiontoisrael.org/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt27.php says, among other pearls, “The temperance movement was at the forefront in pressuring Congress to ban the manufacture, transportation, importation, and exportation of intoxicating liquors. It was mostly made up of women claiming to be Christians. However, rather than taking a biblical stand on alcoholic consumption, they took a non-biblical stand (one still found in many churches today) and helped frame an unlawful amendment.”

        “…mostly made up of women claiming to be Christians?” And your point is?

        ” and helped frame an unlawful amendment.” Sir, it’s called the Constitution, it was duly amended by legal means and you call it an unlawful amendment? Your scorn for the very basis of a government that gives you the right to spew your tripe is repugnant.

    • Rob Alexander

      You’re missing the point that the so-called “war on drugs”, or drug prohibition as it’s more accurately called, is 100% responsible for the cartels existing in the first place, just as alcohol prohibition was 100% responsible for the rise of Al Capone and The Mob.

      So basically, like our government does, you are advocating fixing a problem by doing more of what caused it in the first place.

  • Suzette

    It would be great to see a focus article on Politicians who are not supporting the status quo who are worth supporting.

  • Hannibal Smith

    Oh tiddly tuddly.. Frankly, I’d prefer the readings of Daniel Estulin [THE BILDERBURG GROUP], David Barton or the great judge Andrew Napolitano, who thank goodness is no relation to the queer Janet..

  • Robert

    Empire Amerika! Our elite class plays a game of Risk without the board; and, enacts their terrorism upon the globe.

  • Barb

    Wow Bob,
    What a downer, sounds like you have given up! I refuse to do that, we still ave a chance and we will prevail! God is on our side! Hang in there conservatives!!!

    • Tazio2013

      Barb,

      Today’s story may be a downer but it does smack of reality. And what makes you think that god is a conservative and on your side?

      • kate8

        Taz – God is on the side of those who love and honor Him. He is on the side of Truth and Freedom.

        The Left has done everything to throw out all reference to Him and make Him irrelevant.

        God is not political. But He does know His Own.

    • http://aol Carl

      “ALL that is nessary for for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”(Edmund Burk)

    • http://Verizon Bud G.

      Barb and Moby: I agree with your comments.

      I am just an old guy that has been around the world, studied other governments and observed what is taking place internally in our own government for some 40 years now. One thing is certain and that is there are a number of people in Congress and this administration called the Socialist Democrats who are deliberately enacting legislation for total control of the populace. Tie this with their desire to link this legislation with the world bank and United Nations and you have a scenario for the destruction of Capitalism and the introduction of Socialism.

      The positive is many new members of Congress recognize what is happening and hopefully they will have the courage to reverse the
      measures that have been enacted or on the table such as the Health Care Bill, credit, Cap and Trade and actions by the Federal Reserve.
      This administration loves to say we want to protect the middle class but are doing the very things to destroy it. They are deliberately trying to dismantle small businesses with the Health Care mandates and tax issues.

      California and New York are prime examples of why you do not want progressives running government and until we rid Congress of the some 50 Socialist Democrats, some in key positions like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Henry Waxman and Barney Frank, the destruction will continue.

      Mr Hannibal Smith: You are exactly right when you mentioned the Bilderburg Group. Expose who those people are and it will show the connection. Some of the names will surprise the American people as they have been deemed as respected and honorable persons and there aren’t all Democrats.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Giving up is rolling over, or leaving completely.
      Stating opinion on our demise based off non-mainstream media is looking at the problems with open eyes.

      The only zombies left in the US are the ones who base 75% of their decisions off mainstream news. I say 75% giving them credit for having 1/4 of their senses about them. How many that is I dont know, but its more then I am comfortable with.

    • Karolyn

      God is on everyone’s side!

      • kate8

        Karolyn – The truth is, it is up to us whether we are on HIS side.

        Of course God desires that “none should perish”. But those who mock Him and turn against His Laws make their own choices.

        • Christin

          Kate8,

          It is good to hear your words of wisedom.

          Happy New Year to you and your daughter.

          • kate8

            Christin – Glad to see you back, as well!

            Thanks, and happy New Year to you and yours, as well.

            Keep the faith and Godspeed.

        • Dan az

          Kate
          NC had it right take the Dem. and Rep. off the names in the ballot then it would make it hard for any one to know who they voted for unless they researched who they wanted in.I found this article where obumer an holder said they couldnt do that check it out.
          http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=246289

      • Betsy

        Not! You have any scripture to back up your statement: God is on everyone’s side?? Just not so, sister. “The Lord had made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.”
        Proverbs 16:4

        • wayne

          Betsy, I agree. I think we all have to take responsibility for our own actions. We should not have to be responsible for everyone else that are not responsible, and will never accept responsibility. We should only take care of those that cannot take care of thmselves by no fault of their own.

          • Betsy

            Wayne, it’s always the orphan, the widow, and the stranger.
            Do justice to the needy and the oppressed. Thanks

  • LiarsMustBeDefeated

    Have you noticed how the U.S. and China have been cooperating to keep this thing going? It is not only intra-governmental but also inter-governmental? Research “inflation” and it all ends badly. There are many good documentaries. You’ll find those too.

  • rev gay

    i believe that some of our wars have been and are legitimate and necessary! And—Wikileaks should be stopped; many of their “secrets” are lies and exaggerations meant to destroy us and our friends. regardless, God is in control and whatever his plans are for us will be fulfilled sooner or later—we need not worry!

    • Carlucci

      Wake up and learn the truth, rev gay.

      What wars were “legitimate”? The Civil War was based on unfair taxation, not abolishing slavery. The American people did not want to get involved in WWII until the U.S. govt. forced Japan’s hand, which was totally orchestrated. FDR knew that Pearl Harbor was going to be bombed and this was confirmed by the NY Times two weeks after it happened. Korea, Vietnam, Persian Gulf, Desert Storm, and the current “wars” are totally unconstitutional, and were “approved” by the U.N. FDR said “In politics there are no accidents. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way”.

      Wikileaks is a false flag operation designed to take total control of the internet so there will be no more free speech or sharing of ideas. I’m sure internet commerce will be shut down as well.

      • kate8

        Carlucci – You are right about that. People do not want to go to war, so rulers have to do something to anger and threaten them enough to cause them to take up the banner for the cause.

        Of course, the cause is never what we think it is. It’s just a ploy by those who seek greater power.

        If people would refuse to fight, there would be no wars. Without armies, the elites would be utterly without power.

        Therefore, it is US who empower them against ourselves.

        • JC

          Further to that thought:

          “Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?
          Naturally the common people don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood.
          But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
          Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

          ~Hermann Goering~

          • kate8

            Wise words, JC. Thanks for expounding on that.

          • JC

            Thanks Kate, but do consider the source. Goering was a high ranking Nazi and he said that during the Nuremburg Trials.

          • kate8

            Yeah. I got that, JC. Thanks again.

        • Carlucci

          I’m so glad that Kate8 and JC see “war” for what it really is. You would not believe the mean looks and comments I get when I tell people that soldiers volunteer to become cannon fodder because what gets them to volunteer are tired old slogans and platitudes featuring “patriotism” and “protecting our freedoms”, after Fedzilla has created yet another false flag operation to scare the poo out of people. And then the military always gets thrown under the bus (or over a grenade) when they come home with horrible mental and or physical injuries. I cannot believe that anyone would let their kids volunteer for the military these days. It is so frustrating when most people can never see the forest for the trees.

          • Betsy

            Have you given any thought to how a country would be protected from
            an armed invasion if there was no armed Military?
            As in the War for Independence, 1776, and the Spanish American War?
            Remember The Alamo?
            In the Old Testament, it was God Himself who commanded the Israelites to slay their enemies.
            When Jesus comes again, it will be with the flaming sword, honey.
            Personally, I am thankful for every American Veteran who fought so I don’t have to. God Bless all you American Veterans.

      • http://none Mike

        Carlucci, The wikileaks thing just might have backfired on them though. It opend some eyes to what was going on in our state department. In its operation of our forigen affairs. Sometimes no matter how smart you think you are. You can outsmart yourself. Mike L.

    • DaveH

      If we buy into the Military State, we buy into the destruction of the very Freedom they promise to preserve.
      If we buy into the Socialist State, we buy into the destruction of the economic well-being that they promise to preserve.
      Both of these agendas are pushed for one reason only — to preserve the power of the Political Class.
      Take off the Blinders.

  • Moby

    Bob, all you do is cry and wail. You have no suggestions on what to do. Consequently, you sound like Chicken Little. This is not about liberals or libertarians as both are part of the problem. Eisenhower was right when he said “Beware the military/industrial complex”. The first step should be to cut off the money flowing to politicians and causing their corruption. Second is to term limit them. Third is to cut off all Congressional perks including pensions and healthcare. Once those are done we can start electing representatives that are truly representative rather than thieves that are playing grab ass with our tax money.

    • Allan Halbert

      I think you hit the target when you talk about the congressional perks and rules, because no matter who we send, they play by those rules, or play from the bench.

      I liken it to the public education system. The “public” actually has very little control over its “public” schools. The unions play the part that many on this site ascribe to how corporations influence government. The teachers are like our congressional representatives, there to represent us, but prone to play by “the rules” to succeed. The students are the hapless voters.

    • Bruce D.

      I would have to say Moby that Bob does sound a lot like the ultimate victim with no solutions.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      You are right regarding the Military Industrial Complex, however, its the Union between them & the bankers thats TOXIC.
      What to do? Simple…Vote in Real people. What..thats not working? Never has worked in the last 100 years? Why not?
      DUH!
      What to do is let it boil over, its the ONLY solution that will get enough Americans after them for REAL change. Anything else is diminished by politics & Apathy.

      Read the Declaration of Independence..think we are different? WRONG..the King of England was sending over Mercenaries “to complete the works of death”. IT GOT THAT BAD before things changed. Wake up.

    • DaveH

      Libertarians are part of the Problem, Moby? How, might I ask is that, since they have never been seated in Congress or the Presidency?
      I doubt you even know what a Libertarian is, yet you spout your condemning nonsense.

  • don the canuck

    Often I read the comments and notice one thing. Those who believe the left is wrong will advocate for the right to be elected, and those who believe the right is wrong will protect the left.

    It isn’t about left or right, but more so about the current attitude that the world maintains, which is mostly related to “How can I get mine?”

    There will be no change in gov’t or attitude until the collective has been put through the same wringer. The system in itself is broken and it is run by people who think in the past as opposed to thinking in the future. Old men, old thoughts in a world that is so new and different that it cannot possibly work out unless there is a total change of attitude and a new foundation, not based on money or “wealth” as we currently define it.

    Unfortunately, this has to come from the people and not from the top. The other problem is that the people will take a lot of time to organize and in the meantime, the forces that be can continue to mold the world as they see fit to meet their needs. It will be interesting to see at what point the “little people” decide to take back what is theirs and create a new foundation for going forward. A total overhaul of the political system and the financial system needs to be envisioned. this takes time and it take unselfish people to do it. Are there enough of them left? Time will tell.

    Interesting times indeed.

    • JC

      An accurate observation Don.
      Do you see a mirror image of this in Canada?

    • Dagney

      don the canuck says: “it cannot possibly work out unless there is a total change of attitude and a new foundation, not based on money or “wealth” as we currently define it.”

      Oh, really? Money and wealth in one form or another has always existed. We, as individuals, define our worth by the work we do, the services we provide, and the rewards we reap. This is fundemental. If you change from a government issued scrip to bird seed, it would be the same. Leftists and other fantasy-utopians believe this is all unnecessary and are having fun at everyone’s expense forcing their visions on us right now. Read the lyrics of John Lennon’s “Imagine” and you sound just like him. It’s FANTASY and will cause untold DEATH and depression.

      Get real.

      • JC

        I think the operative part of his statement was “as we currently define it”.

        Currently it is defined as subservience to Government, our wealth is not “our” wealth, and that does have to change.

      • Allan Halbert

        I agree. This “new global attitude” idea is so unrealistic. “How can I get mine” is built into humans, so unless liberals can convince the masses to adopt big brother and global genetic re-engineering, learning to being practical is my advice.

        • Karolyn

          I don’t think “how-I-can-get-mine” is built into humans. It is societal indoctrination.

          • Allan Halbert

            Most “rehabilitation” programs have minimal success because the potential for problem behavior is built-in. Most people don’t want a “rehabilitated” criminal living next door, and that instinct is also built-in. Blaming society for your own or others’ behavior is not built-in. That’s a choice…and a fundamental difference between liberals and conservatives.

          • Karolyn

            No it isn’t. It’s the way we are all raised to be and has been for so long. For this world to be right, it would take a whole paradigm shift.

        • Bitter Libertarian

          I agree Allen…Greed in whatever degree is part of the Human nature. Always has, always will be. The people who believe we are “evolving” away from that are very confused.

          • DaveH

            Greed is just another of the many words used by people to manipulate other people.

    • Karolyn

      Thank you so much for your post Don. It seems too many people think that we can stop time, and many would like to go backwards. Change has to happen, and we can’t live in the past. VERY interesting times we live in. I’m glad I grew up in the 50s-60s!

      • kate8

        Karolyn – You think we are not going backwards now?

        Things do continually change, yet there is nothing new under the sun. Things merely run in cycles.

        Everything being done now has been done before. The same old game-plan used to collapse nations and centralize power. There are many books written on the subject, showing how history continually repeats over and over. In fact, it is only by revising history that those who seek power are able to influence ignorant masses, making them believe that what they are doing is something new.

        “My people perish for lack of knowledge.” It has always been so.

        I suggest you try reading “The Art of War”. You will then understand what is taking place.

        Of course, the Bible also shows this. Reading the OT, you would think you were reading today’s current events.

        The more things change, the more they stay the same.

        • Carlucci

          EXACTLY – !!! Read the book of Ecclesiastes in the Bible. There is never anything new under the sun because it is all history repeating, and people seldom ever learn from history.

          Everybody better get over the Normalcy Bias, too.

        • bnewell

          kate8, you are so right on every point you’ve made. If we had more
          clear thinkers like you, this country would be a much better place.
          Despite all of the ‘woe is the US’ talk, we still happen to be the
          most sought after country on earth, and the envy of the free world.
          I just hope enough of us are willing to fight to keep it that way.

          HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!! and go Falcons!!!

    • Bitter Libertarian

      I disagree in part….

      People Thinking that we “have changed so much, and times are so different” is the EXACT excuse they use to IGNORE the Constitution!

      The Basic Individual and his/her needs are no different except which gadget, gizmo, style, or technology is used.

      Do we still need shelter, food, clothing, heat, cleanliness, mode of transportation? YES

      Do we have Social problems like they did 100-200-300-1000 years ago? YES

      Get back to the Basics of Freedom & Liberty and 98% of our BIGGEST problems disappear. The Problem is that these 2 Items have their foundation in RESPECT for another humans Rights. Something Neither Political party currently has the ethics to comprehend or produce.

      There will always be the same social problems that have existed for thousands of years, deal with it. The bacic Human remains Unchanged, Too many believe we have “Evolved” into some higher position in the Timeline of Man and IMHO DO not see the positive in ignoring our past, or thinking we need “new rules/laws”. That IDEA is DANGEROUS and as i said EXACTLY what got us in this mess.

      • DaveH

        For sure, there have always been people who would forcefully take advantage of others, and there always will be those kinds of people. Advancements in technology do not change that.

  • Loyde Williams

    I have a problem with the term “American Dream”.I see it as a goal that industrious and generous people seek. Others (I think) see it as a dream state in which they lay back and try to dream their goals into existence.Surprise !!!! It seems the dreamers are winning.Forget the hard work and study,forget about your childs future.Let some one else worry about these things. I hear it more each day from dissatisfied people,” This is not the America I was born in”Now we dont have “illegal imigrants” but “Undocumented immigrants” B S !!!!! I was born here and my birth certificate is legal proof. Its starting to look like another Revolution is in order. Semper FI US Citizen. Stand for what is true and right

    • Bitter Libertarian

      LOL I Love that, the “Dream” state. You are so right, and IMHO they forgot thewhole concept of WORKing towards your “Dreams” not continuing to sleep!

  • Tazio2013

    A few paragraphs relevant to today’s topic:

    THE WHEELS ARE GOING TO COME OFF THE TRAIN IN 2011.The sky really is falling. The
    chickens are going to come home to roost. Hyperinflation is going to take off. Food
    prices will skyrocket. Instead of paying 10% of your salary to eat like royalty,
    you’ll be paying 30% of your salary, and giving up on a lot of things you used
    to buy. Food prices are going to Mars and beyond!

    Wal-Mart has already downsized 10% of their entire stock. They did that months ago.
    The largest retailer in the world dumped a tenth of what they sell. Wake up!!! Nobama
    will leave office in disgrace, and won’t even think of running again. The Republicans
    will put up a Guaranteed Failure, like neocon Sarah Palin. If they lose the election
    on purpose, the Democrats will be blamed for the Much Greater Depression. America
    will de-generate into a third world banana republic with no bananas. It’s all going
    completely to Hell folks. America is finished after 234 years as all democratic
    systems have been.

    Judge Napolatano, on Freedom Watch (Fox), said we really have 900 military bases
    around the world, with a quarter million soldiers! Many of them are so secret;
    their location is not even admitted or known. That’s called imperialism, and that’s
    what destroyed the great empire of Rome 2,000 years ago. We need to end these insane
    wars of aggression. We need to close all 900 bases today, and bring home every one
    of those soldiers, and give them a real job. Your tax dollar goes down the toilet
    on this. Remember half of the entire world military budget is eatenup by America.
    Yes, that includes Russia and China. We pay half the entire military budget on this
    planet for insane wars of aggression in the Mideast, and having 900 international
    bases we don’t need. Imagine how your taxes would come down if we stopped this today.

    And for the complete Jan 2011 Economic Rant:

    http://campaign.r20.constantcontact.com/render?llr=bsb4hfcab&v=001Odyl7ekdr1YUG8HrIRvM74RXzCbyoejxBrSMJ44oG0syvllwM5t5n8lVz6cIT2xQyJ754CkoPgxUUq9e9mzltQynebnQv6SmonAQoVRgDm4%3D

    • Karolyn

      Well, aren’t you a downer! The more negativity you put out, the more will come about. You are contributing to whatever bad things happen simply by contributing to the negative energy driving it.

      • Carlucci

        Karolyn, Tazio is not trying to be a “downer”. He/She is just warning us, like the article.

        • Karolyn

          To what end? As I have said over and over, the more negative energy put out, the more comes back. If everyone thought more of solutions and of all the good things that exist, the world would not be in such bad shape. Believe me! It’s like me living on next to nothing for several years (which I did up until recently) but not looking at all I don’t have but looking at all my blessings. My life gets/has gotten better! If I played victim and cried every day, I’d still be doing it and nothing would change for the better.

        • BobbyB

          No, Like Ike warned us when he left office~

    • hflashman

      Criminey…using Wal Mart as an indication of the future. Let me see…the fact that China is experiencing some infaltion, the fact that the dollar is stabilizing making us more competitive in trade, the fact that Wal Mart has been amongst the leaders in creating our trade deficits and outsourcing of jobs…and you use Wal mart as an economic indicator????

      And food prices. Again…economic and environmental forces at work in the marketplace aren’t examined. Nope….only the rise in prices is mentioned.

      get a life. Better yet, get an education.

    • kate8

      Taz – Here’s another site you might find interesting.

      American has been being set up (for a very long time) to be attacked by other nations. This was the plan all along.

      Americans haven’t wanted this. We’ve been betrayed. This is the work of the world elite. We’ve just been unknowingly funding their operations, thinking we were defending “freedom”, while we went about our lives seeking more stuff.

      http://www.joelskousen.com/

  • Tea Party

    The US Government was formed by the states, not the other way around. It is time for the PEOPLE, not the politicians, to take up arms and force their states to SECEDE from the US Government. That means DISSOLVING and ABOLISHING the US Government and then having a congress to form a NEW GOVERNMENT minus current politicians including MR MUSLIM OBAMA.

    Keep your eyes open! There WILL BE A CIVIL WAR in this country but it will be US, THE PEOPLE against our sons and daughters representing the MILITARY of the US Government. There will be much bloodshed and in the end, the people will prevail.

    How much longer do you think people are going to tolerate loss of jobs, loss of their homes, loss of their security and of their families? In the animal kingdom, when you back an animal into a corner, it will come out fighting for its survival and freedom, and we are part of the animal kingdom! So be ready. Buy munitions and guns before the government takes that right away from us too, not just food.

    • Karolyn

      You, sir, are so much a part of the problem, and you are nuts!

      • Tea Party

        Am I the one who is nuts and a big part of the problem or is it the sheep like you who wear blinders and ignore what is happening? Hmmmm!

        • Karolyn

          If I were ignoring what’s going on, I wouldn’t be posting here. Ranting and raving about it makes no difference to the good whatsoever. All it does is keep the momentum of negativity going.

          • kate8

            Karolyn – It’s “ranting and raving” about what’s going on that brings information to increasing numbers of folks who haven’t yet figured things out.

            If people don’t know, they can’t act. The time has passed for worrying about “spreading negativity”. I understand what you are trying to say, but you don’t fully understand the concept. If your house is on fire, do you put out flowery thoughts or do you try to put out the fire?

            You sit back and pretend everything is peachy. The rest of us are going to face the gorilla at the door and try to save our home.

          • Karolyn

            Kate – The problem is what you guys are saying is so far out, it is just beyond belief, and I, as well as many, will never be persuaded. I believe you will be the ones feeling foolish when proven wrong – if we’re still alive by then.

          • kate8

            Karolyn – Truth is always stranger than fiction. It is an age-old story.

            I would like nothing better than to be wrong, and for you to be right. If that proves out, I will be the first to concede that I was mistaken.

            If we are still alive by then.

          • Tea Party

            Compare ranting and raving to your house being on fire while you’re sound asleep in bed. If no one rants and raves, shouts and hollers, you’ll die. Do you want to die or do you want to get out from under all this US Government bureaucracy, taxes, unfair practices and destruction of our freedoms? If you want the latter, then get up and rant and rave and stop disbelieving what you’re hearing. There’s enough people ranting and raving about the same things. There’s truth to our ranting and raving. So either get woken up or die while you sleep with your head buried in the sand.

      • Betsy

        I have noticed you have a blind “PollyAnna” attitude towards anyone
        posting the truth about world conditions and the economic outlook.
        You just called the man ‘nuts’ who posted truth. Jee, isn’t that being negative?????? Your refusal to acknowledge reality is a good example of the 51% of America who are responsible for the muslim currently sitting in dc.

        • kate8

          Betsy – Very well said.

          Karolyn is one of those well-meaning, but completely deluded, relics of the ’60s. She simply cannot face the truth because it is far too frightening.

          As I have said, I would rather know the truth, no matter how terrible, than be blindsided by something I never saw coming.

          • Karolyn

            Kate – Who knows the real truth? There are just too many assumptions and guesses thrown around. Nobody REALLY knows anything.

          • kate8

            Okay, Karolyn. Let’s just all join hands and sing Kumbaya, and pretend that the PTB have our best interests at heart. Somehow we can all tiptoe throught the tulips and everything will work out fine.

            Sigh. Where there is smoke, there is surely fire. How can we ignore all the red lights flashing as fires break out in every part of our lives and our nation?

            If you don’t want to talk about this stuff, why are you here?

          • Karolyn

            Kate – I’ve answered that repeatedly. I’m here to learn and to discuss, not to be put down for what I believe.

          • kate8

            Well, Karolyn. If you don’t want to be put down for what you say, then perhaps you should stop putting others down for what they say.

          • libertytrain

            kate – I would have said exactly the same thing for all the times she puts all of us down as foolish, etc. particularly when agreeing with her “kindred souls” – you can’t have it both ways. You can’t call people names and expect to be exempt.

          • Betsy

            Thanks, Kate. Knowledge is Power. Anyone can keep themself informed
            as to world events and the polictical machinations that are taking
            place.
            Reuters, World Net Daily, Guardian uk., Israeli newspapers: these
            are all free, informnative e-mail newsletters with which one can
            educate oneself.

      • Richard

        Karolyn, I suspect that with a name like TEA PARTY he is really a liberal plant put here to discredit conservatives. The principle is called the Overon Window where you push to the extreme to get something, when you really want something else. I would not waste to much effort arguing with him unless you enjoy it.

    • Papa

      I think you sell our children in the Military short. They are more aware than you believe and most (by a large majority) would refuse to wage war against our own citizens.

      A “trial balloon” was floated in the mid-nineties, during the Clinton administration, where members of our military were quietly asked if they would obey orders to launch an attack on a US City. Their answer, almost to a man, was a resounding NO! Not only would they refuse to obey such an order, they would revolt against whoever gave such an order and take control of their units.

      Of course, that was about fifteen years ago and most of those queried at that time are no longer members of the active military but those who replaced them are cut from the same cloth. I know many of them, and they would likewise refuse that order. If there is a Civil War in America, count on a large percentage of the US Military deserting, taking tanks and airplanes with them as they go, to fight AGAINST the Government. Everyone needs to understand that a large percentage of our military is made up of men and women from the SOUTH and the MIDWEST! They come mostly from “FLYOVER COUNTRY” and they understand their “Oath of Allegiance” was to the “U.S. Constitution” and not to any administration in Washington, CERTAINLY not to some political party.

      There’s also another organization in America, known as “Oath Keepers” whose membership is growing fast. Look it up and learn. You might be surprised.

      By the way, don’t get caught up in the “Left V Right” argument because there’s very little difference between the two. They’re merely the flip sides of the same coin, a single political party with two wings, NEITHER of which has the best interest of “We The People” in mind once they get to Washington…

      • Carlucci

        A friend of mine grew up in Iran. He told me that the Ayatollah tried to get the army to turn against the citizenry and the army refused, because they would not shoot their parents, siblings, or other relatives.

        I also know people who were career military and they are so anti-D.C. it isn’t funny. Current and ex-military are usually the first ones to know and understand what is going on.

        • Carlucci

          One more thing. If Fedzilla realizes that American troops will not turn against their own, Fedzilla will most likely hire foreign mercenaries to do the job. Of course, if they offer to pay them with useless fiat currency, there may be no takers.

        • Richard Pawley

          In my autobiography, LEAVING SOUTH CAROLINA I mentioned how the local Chinese army would not fire on the thousands of students in Tiananmen Square who were marching to support freedom with their 35 foot paper mache ‘Statue of Liberty’ (in 1989) so the Chinese got other troops from a couple of thousand miles away to come and kill some 3,500 according to archives from Russia. Of course the Chinese say it was only 350. In THE LAST DAYS OF THE LATE GREAT UNITED STATES I mention how the Army Times said that we were training some 20,000 troops to quell the food riots and the union looting that the government expects will take place as a result of the destruction of the dollar or at least the several hundred percent inflation that the incessant spending of Congress will cause. These will be union members who realize that the big things they were promised will never come about and they will be rioting much like they have been for a few months in Greece. Of course there may be welfare recipients who realize their long free ride is over and the mere pittance the government can give them will barely cover beans and rice. These won’t be innocent Americans but people who have been taught that the rest of the country owes them a living and it will be dawning on them for the first time that our country really is BROKE. The only chance we have of slowing this down is if we return to the principles and beliefs of those who founded our great country. The president wants to spread unionization to all 50 states so we all can be as broke and in debt as NY and Illinois and California. Since that would make taxes skyrocket it would finish the middle class. He does not want us to have the freedom and success that states like Texas have with their lower taxes and more balanced budget and free enterprise way of doing things. The United States has the second highest corporate taxes in the world and only a return to God and country can bring us back to where we need to be. Inflation is inevitable as a result of the 111th Congress but it could be worse if we don’t make sure the 112th Congress shapes up and reduces government spending significantly and raises taxes. Otherwise the next generation may be not unlike Cuba today, where ever Castro said that socialism isn’t working. We must restore the individual and the Constitution or else we must prepare for the end of things as we have known them. A third alternative might be that thngs just get worse and worse with unemployment gradually increasing. One of my sources says we could lose another million jobs this year as Americans continue to buy cheap Chinese goods. Houses are expected to keep coming down in price in some areas but not in all. I don’t think Americans are going to put up with all this though and if this congress and this president don’t come down out of the clouds and start to turn us around then our ship of state may flounder on the shoals of fiscal irresponsibility that has longed described Congress. Keep after your representatives not to destroy the dollar and the economy. The country you may save may be your own.

          • Carlucci

            My late husband and I were in Hong Kong in the summer of ’89 when Tiananmen Square went down. Yes, those were soldiers that were brought in from miles away to attack and shoot the protesters. We heard about that at the airport when we were leaving. The people in Hong Kong showed their solidarity by marching in the streets carrying signs wearing black armbands.

          • Al Sieber

            Richard Pawley, you described it perfectly, good job. the light at the end of the tunnel is a on coming train.

      • kate8

        That is why our military is being run ragged in foreign wars. It is also being demoralized and weakened from every possible angle.

        What is being formed is a world army of mercenaries, who have no loyalty to America. This is what we will soon be up against.

      • Christin

        Thanks for your statement Papa.

        Maybe that is why the gov’t was trying so hard to rid themselves of the Don’t Ask Don’t Tell… to weaken the military.

        I am aware of the Oath Keepers and am glad many will stnd with us. I wish our men and women were coming home and not fighting these endless wars we aren’t allowed to win.

        • Teresa

          And you Christin just won the cigar for the day! It is not only the the repeal, they just saw the smallest increase in their salaries in Years…they are being pushed like never before….yes the government is pushing our military as hard as they can! EVERYONE needs to support our military like never before!

          • Christin

            Teresa,
            Is winning a cigar good? ;)

    • JC

      It’s a very good idea to plan and be prepared for all eventualities.
      Anyone believing that our Government is “ours” or that it is in any way benevolent towards us is naive in the extreme.

    • Allan Halbert

      I think the military will be more sympathetic to the public than you do. So many questions have been raised about how liberals really feel toward the military. It was hard to stay abreast of politics when I served, but the military today are aware of these attitudes, and it has been reflected in how they vote.

      • JC

        That’s right Allan. Note that the military people donated more money to Ron Paul’s campaign during the last Presidential election than they did to all the other candidates combined. That should tell us something about where their sympathies lie.

  • Bob Wire

    “This is no joke, folks. It is the world in which Americans now live.”

    I was thinking the same thing about 25 years ago Bob.

    Welcome to the club! You’re kinda late, where you been?

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Bob Wire,

      I’m not late at all. I’ve been writing about this since 1969. You can see my archives at http://www.boblivingstonletter.com (subscription required).

      Best Wishes,
      Bob

      • http://none Mike

        Mr. Livingston, I know you have probly done this before. But if you have it might be time for one again. Why not have an open forum for ideas. Not just responding to an articl but one where you simply say Ok what would you do to change things? Get enough responses to maby hammer out an agenda to send to our next canidates.I see alot of ideas exchanged in responses. But never a solid kind of agreement or statesman like compromise between the ideas. Mike L.

    • Bob Wire

      Oops! forgive me, ~ I briefly forgot the first rule of writing, ~ select and address the audience you wish to appeal to.

      I stand corrected, and best wishes to you and staff for whats to be an exciting New Year! There will be much to write about and fevered passions will run high.

      Feeling much like being at the race track, I’ve made my wager and the ponies are lining up at the starting gate.

      A short prayer for ponies and riders before the gun in order.

      This will be very entertaining!

  • Billy Cooper

    FOLKS AMERICA HAS GOTTEN WHERE IT IS BY GREEDY ELECTED OFFICIALS. WE THINK WE ARE ELECTING HONEST PEOPLE TO GO TO WASHINGTON TO REPRESENT US, “WE THE PEOPLE” BUT WHEN THEY GET THERE THEY BECOME CAUGHT UP IN THE “GOOD OLD BOY NETWORK” THEY ALSO BECOME CORRUPT. ALL THOSE 15000 LOBBYIST HAVE MONEY TO “BUY OUR CONGRESSMAN/SENATOR” AND THEY DO BUY THEIR VOTE. SO PRETTY SOON, LAWS ARE PASSED THAT WIND UP HURTING THE LITTLE GUY. AND THOSE IN THE RIGHT PLACES FEATHER THEIR NEST PRETTY WELL.NOTHING IS EVER GOING TO CHANGE IN WASHINGTON, I KNOW A LOT OF US THOUGHT MAYBE THE “TEA PARTY MOVEMENT” WOULD BE A WAKEUP CALL FOR WASHINGTON, BUT I THINK IT WILL TURN OUT, AS BUSINESS AS USUAL.

    • Allan Halbert

      Best thing I’ve seen come along in years. Let’s see what they can do in the next two years, and if they stay true to their stated intentions, we can vote more of them in.

  • Polski

    FDA is the KGB or Nazis of the “Sick Industry” (called the “health industry” by the media) which also includes AMA, FTC, and big PHARMA. The FDA has been raiding Alternative Medicine practitioners for years, and is now raiding healthy food producers as well.

  • DaveY

    Those who predict a civil war with our military and police VS The People may (I pray I’m right) forget that the military swears an oath to the Constitution. The Police are so out-manned now that they will have to think long and hard before following orders to shoot its own civilians on command from some pack of thieves in DC. Then you have the “”Oath Takers.”” This is another thorn in the side of those who would wrest the last shards of freedoms from us. Lastly but playing a major role in this coming confrontation is that no “Glorious Marxist Revolution” has ever been forced on ANY nation on Earth where a population of 300 million had an estimated 700 million firearms!! From an armed resistance standpoint we are a virtual Switzerland!
    What I’m hoping is that long before bullets fly and men have to choose between killing citizens or backing a corrupt government that citizens “vote” or act with their money. Cut off corrupt wasteful local governments by witholding taxes. They can’t foreclose on everybody. They can’t take possession if 50 neighbors show up with deer rifles and suggest they leave – NOW! The flow of money goes UP and we can cut them off at the knees if we organize and stand together. The alternative is very very ugly.

    • JC

      The people we’ll need to be aware of are the Blackwater types and other foreign mercenaries under the guise of UN Troops. I think our own boys and girls will be thinking about their own “American” family’s, friends and neighbors….why do you think they’re all overseas? To keep them from joining in the defense of America?
      Or maybe they’re bringing Democracy in all its glory to those less fortunate…you do the math.

    • Papa

      Your prayer has already been answered, before you uttered it. Isn’t that the way it usually works?

      There is virtual unanimity among Police Officers that “orders” from the federal government at ANY level to attack some group are to be severely questioned, and most likely will be ignored. Of course, I’m from Texas where such a move is probably expected but what I know of other States and their Police leaves me little doubt that their reaction would be much the same. Police Officers are our friends and neighbors, not some group of alien invaders. Most feel the same way we do…

      • kate8

        Papa, Maybe, but there has been a decided change in the attitudes of our law inforcement over the decades toward the citizenry.

        In any case, what happens is that the police are killed off first, and are replaced with those loyal to the PTB. Same with the military.

        Don’t you guys think the elites have all this figured out? They haven’t gained power over the world by being stupid.

      • Christin

        Papa,
        I am not so sure about the police anymore… there are a few good ones, but I feel they are the exception rather than the rule.

        I have witnessed the nightmare of the “cash cow” of the “corrupt Judicial System” and the “dirty cops” who earn their “holiday bonuses” pushing “prisoners” guilty or not through the jail whether they are prosecuted or not. Either way, the people are “deemed guilty until they can prove their innocence” through numberous court appearances with lawyer, judge and a county DA tieing up the person’s time and money which goes to pay for the “City or County Budget”. The lines of people are long and the money a constant flow into the city or county employee coffers to pay for traffic violations or other accusations stated soley by a often verbally, physically abusive, power hungry cop .

        I say the police force are government employees and will act accordingly.

    • Betsy

      You can never change a True American. In the end, it will be foreign
      United Nation Troops that ‘invade’ America to quell the ‘dissidents’.

      • kate8

        Betsy, I don’t know about where you live, but over the holidays I made a trip to a nearby city. I was shocked to see that foreigners outnumbered Americans by around 20 to 1. I could hardly find anyone who spoke English.

        I just wonder how many “true Americans” there are anymore. It seems we’ve given away the farm.

        • Betsy

          Kate, neither you nor I have given away America. We have fought, in our own ways, to Keep Her. Whether it has been through posting on-line, educating our friends and neighbors, keeping our traditions and
          values through time honored beliefs; each one of us has done what we
          could.
          We are living in the “time of the heathen”. [Ezek.30 v.3] We cannot
          change what is ordained.
          But we can survive. We can stay informed[and read His Word, for those who believe]. We can prepare. Being knowledgeable, ready and
          prepared takes the fear out of live, making ‘catastrophe’s’ minor
          inconveniences. Shalom

  • Jimemac

    If all you really care about the US why don’t you check out a couple of real solutions that have true potential in turning around this monstrosity that our government has become. Log on to GOOOH.COM, which stands for “get out of our house” and make an effort to understand the concept. Then throughly examine the FAIR TAX at FAIRTAX.ORG. The FAIR TAX would eliminate federal income and withholding taxes on individuals and corporations. I am convinced that the FAIR TAX will never become law without a complete replacement of the House. That’s where GOOOH comes in. The Tea Party is on the right track, but true change will not come thru the Democratic or Republican parties!

  • bhscpa

    Repeal! Repeal! Repeal!
    What “problem” was our hyper-active federal government trying to solve?

  • http://n.cates@cox.net Norman F.

    This is a fact that is not well known. The election of the Congress is controlled by the States. The Constitution is concerned with generalities, but the specifics of the elections are left to the states; hence the big argument about the result of the 2000 elections in Florida. The Constitution makes no statement about the number of terms a Congressman can hold.
    Therefore, there is no reason that the States may not set term limits on their members of the House and Senate. Florida sets limits on it’s legislature that work out well. The same could be done to the national legislature by any state through an amendment to it’s Constitution. I think it should be done.

    • Orren

      While we’re at it make all legislative voting by secret ballot only.

      I am sure the cream-will-come-to-the-top as conscientious citizens will be attracted to serve and since corruption will
      have no way to prove its position and thus non motivating.

      Remember, the founding fathers did not intend that elected officials
      make a career out of their service, for obvious reasons that we are
      seeing today.

      Think about it!!!!!

      • duggy dugg

        nice fuzzy words ; u s bonds = national debt ; pure and simple and deadly

  • http://infowars ray

    the time for talk is over its time for much more or are you going to stick you head in the sand wake up

  • dave

    A day turns into a month ,a month into a year, a year into 10 years,etc,etc! That is how fast the deterioration of America is falling.The wake up call came a long time ago when government and big business got in bed together.Now we have the phase of just big government,with we the people being sacrificed for the few.The phone is ringing for the last time.If we the people don’t answer it now ,doom and damnation are inevitable and at hand.Rise up you sleeping giant and take back what so many have died for. Take it back from the few who have defiled and devistated this great country. It is the only way!Don’t let this last call go un-answered. In god we trust.God helps those that helps themselves.Not hard to understand .

    • Karolyn

      So, Dave, what do you propose “we” do? We cannot stem the tide of the world. All is in flux. We are not an “island” but a part of the whole. “The times they are a changin’,” and you can’t stop change, no matter how you might think things could be better. Yes, there are things we can do to stem the tide and stop some small changes here and there; but when you look at the big picture, it is what it is. My particular interest is in the area of health and nutrition; and I choose to focus on lending my voice to that area. The Europeans laid down and accepted codex; I hope we don’t.

      • kate8

        Karolyn – Congress has already accepted Codex.

        Unless we grow our own food, we’ll have no access to anything healthful. Even then, we have the issue of uncontaminated seed, and the “food police” coming around to inspect our gardens.

        There is only one real reason for this madness, and that is so we all sicken and die. The sooner everyone gets that, the sooner we can do something. When we are all too weak and sick to stand up will be too late.

        • kate8

          BTW, This has been coming about for a long time. The incidental e coli outbreaks, the concerns about “food safety”…all nothing more than ruses for the purpose of tampering with our food.

          They’ve been irradiating our fresh produce for a long time. More and more of it is GMO. Including 70% of our chocolate! (Now they’ve crossed the line.)

          The groundwork has been laid and is now being implemented. It will not be easy to overcome.

          • Christin

            Kate8,
            I was thinking most or all of the “e coli and salmonella” outbreaks in the passed few years were “staged” so that “they” could bring about these new “killer” regulations on food and home gardens.

            What a rotten lot of people they are.

          • JeffH

            kate8, I’ll say the people should pay close attention to the “benevolence” of Bill Gates and his belief in world depopulation and eugenics. Here is a guy that most would characterize as a philanthropist but could very well end up being compared to Joseph Mengele. It’s all relative in a very evil way.

            This kind of thinking is the result of believing in the ideals that a
            “Global” or “One World Government” will solve all of the world’s problems. I wonder just what the Rothschilds, Fed Reserve, Central Banks, CFR, Bilderbergs and the associated worlds elite think about those ideas. Greed and Power is their only thoughts.

          • kate8

            JeffH – I agree. They will kill via vaccinations, as well as any other way they can think of.

            Their justification is saving the Earth. They consider humans to be parasitic, and it’s all in the name of divine sacrifice.

            I really think they should start with their own kids.

          • JC

            Throw in the H1N1 test run to see how many sheep would line up for their shot of chemicals. Don’t take ANY vaccinations.

          • JeffH

            JC, you just said a mouthfull. What was done with the millions of leftover doses of the H1N1 vaccine? Sent to third world countries by the “World Health Organizaton”.

            At the end of the day, we’re on our own. If one would wish to believe the axiom “We’re with the government and here to help you,” be my guest. In the meantime, consider Obama’s comments concerning VA care for wounded vets. You know, the comment about the wounded
            “volunteering,” so why should the government provide medical care for their injuries? If Obama can be that hard-hearted, then just imagine what he will say to the people who suffer significant reactions to the H1N1 vaccine — “You volunteered to take the vaccine, didn’t you? Hey, I guess it sucks to be you.”

        • Betsy

          Jeff, isn’t it Bill Gates who already has his 40,000 sq. ft. underground mansion (completed years ago)?

          • kate8

            Betsy – All of the elite have lavish underground bunkers, sufficient to sustain them for a very long time. And they were built with OUR MONEY. (WASTED tax money, covert funds i.e. illegal drugs, and any number of ill-gotten gain at our expense.)

            They plan to unleash the demons of hell on us, while they wait it out in safety. My hope is, as alluded to in Revelation, that a huge earthquake buries them alive in their caves.

          • Betsy

            Got another chuckle for you, Kate. This information came about when researching the methane gas that was leaking into the Gulf after the BP well “malfunction”. Supposedly there is a huge methane pocket extending all the way from the Gulf of Mexico almost to the Canadian Border that is interconnected through subterranean tunnels. If that
            ever caught fire……………I would guess underground bunkers would be substituting as ovens. Oh my, me bad.

          • kate8

            Betsy – God does have a great sense of humor.

            God will not be mocked. There is no doubt that the plans of elite will fail miserably, that they will be trapped in their own snare. No one, no matter how great and powerful, gets to escape reaping what they have sown. That is God’s Universal Law, and it is Supreme. The only redemption is in Christ, through true repentance. And the gaining of wisdom.

  • Charles2439

    Unfortunately, a foreigner who holds allegiance to foreign powers has been placed in the presidency in direct violation of the Constitution which requires anyone who hold the office of president to be a natural born citizen – mean that both parents be American citizens thereby eliminating the chance that a foreign parent will influence or divide allegiance. http://www.petition2congress.com/2349/petition-to-remove-barack-obama-as-president-united-states-americ/
    John McCain was not born in this country, but he was considered natural born because both of his parents were American citizens as required by the Constitution.

    • Papa

      John McCain is the son of a US Navy Officer who was stationed abroad at the time of his birth and accompanied by his family at that duty station (Panama). The entire argument which “Progressives” advanced concerning his citizenship was COMPLETELY BOGUS and advanced as a smoke-screen to obscure the issue of Obama’s birthplace and citizenship, which still hasn’t been properly resolved. It never can be now because any piece of “paper” which might be produced at this late date will be eternally suspect.

      Forget the “citizenship” issue. Our only recourse now is to remove him from office and stymie any attempt to control our people until the next election…

      • duggy dugg

        it ain’t the president ; all of them were puppets of bigg inc and bigg banxx ;
        outlaw u s bonds = stop the debt buildup …..

      • kate8

        The legitimacy issue is just another poke at Americans. It is part of a contrived plan to cause distrust of Americans toward their government.

        It’s all geared toward our collapse as a nation.

        • Betsy

          Kate, Old Testament Israelistes got foreign rulers for their disobedience to God. The blood of unborn babies cries out from this land. These, our collective sins,(along with others, have led
          America down the path she is on. We can ask God for forgiveness for our land; we can stand in the gap and ask for forgiveness for those
          who don’t even know they have sinned.
          We fight not flesh and blood, but powers and principalities. So in
          the end, it doesn’t matter the names and faces: Bilderburg, Illuminati, Kaballah Jews (witchcraft and Edomites) etc., etc.
          Just have to keep knowing Who YOU are: and prepare. Let us have wisdom.

          • kate8

            Betsy – Yes, indeed. Wise words.

            And our nation has accepted a foreign “ruler”, including, but not limited to, Obama. So many still fail to see that he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

            God is clear that His people have not been appointed to wrath. He has always provided an escape for the faithful at some point. He has also promised that no weapons formed against us shall prosper.

            I know that we will be safe, whether we survive the coming times or not. The physical is a terminal state, but spirit is eternal.

            Godspeed.

          • Betsy

            I actually agree with some of Dorothy’s statements. I will not advocate armed rebellion against our government. David would not lift a hand to harm Saul, who sought repeatedly to take David’s life.
            When I say wisdom, as hard as it is for me to pray for those I hate:
            over and over again I am admonished to pray for my enemies.
            In the flesh, I absolutely despise the person currently in dc. No other ‘president’ in history has spent millions and millions of dollars sealing all personal records. I believe this man is an impostor and an enemy of the United States of America, and her continued well-being. So I pray that his evil be bound. He was raised a Muslim, and is going all out to GIVE U.S. Taxpayer money to Muslims.
            I do not personally like or agree with the stances that some U.S. Representatives and Senators have taken. It is my duty to pray for those in authority above me.
            Lest you hardened infidels think all Bible believers are stupid, I
            also stay informed of world events, the economy, financial and political aspirations of nations around the world.
            I am also red-neck enough to know that self-sufficiency and being prepared for whatever comes can keep you out of the way of mass chaos.

          • kate8

            Betsy, While I agree in principal, the Bible also states that there is a time for every purpose under heaven.

            A time to be born, a time to die,…reap/sow, love/hate, war/peace…

            Turning the other cheek is widom, but sometimes we have to fight. We would never have had this great nation had we not…

            I guess it’s all in knowing what to do and when, and being aligned with the Will of God.

        • Betsy

          Kate,
          Never said I wasn’t willing to defend home and hearth.
          Does sound kind of milk-toasty; praying for your enemies.
          Would be easier and quicker using lead. However, I was
          just sharing some moments where I felt especially bound to
          pray for some human beings that I absolutely felt total
          hatred for. Not sure I’m cut out to be the kind of person
          who would be willing to die praying; although Wycliffe did
          and that’s why we have our King James Bible.

    • Betsy

      Amen, and Amen. Keep on preaching it brother! My country has been violated.

  • Raggs

    This comes at a time when the government is trying to raise the debt celling again which will lead to the US credit rating collapse.

    • duggy dugg

      geez ; maybe gov’t should stop going into debt ! ! ! !what a concept !! !! ! maybe we should ….print our own currency ! has that ever been tried ???? duh

  • packeryman

    I tend to differ with you as an Independent, as to the causes of our middle class demise.It started with the beginning of tremendous amounts of foreign aid following WW11 and continuing to this day, the unbelievable amounts of tax monies spent on unnecessary foreign conflicts, Vietnam, Croatia, Iraq / the endless Occupation, and Afghanistan / a no win involvement. I am with Ron Paul, bring home all troops from around the world. Then build temporary bases from Brownsville to the Pacific and station troops along the 2000 thousand mile border. We will stop all drugs and illegals. It will be a boom to the economy with our troops spending monies in US. Our economy will be helped, opening up jobs as the illegals self deport with mandatory 5yr sentences on employers hiring illegals, take illegals off all social programs and end anchor babies. Once the border is secure we could set up a temporary worker program. Implement a mortorium on H1-B visas that allow corporate to hire technical workers for 18 to 22 thousand dollars less than our college grads.All Americans that want to work should have jobs before one illegal or foreign worker on visa is permited. Next give corporations tax incentives to move industry back to the USA, those that want to continue to reap the profits of cheap labor, tax their incoming goods to the amount of profit they are making by off shoring for cheap labor. Let the power companies have permits for 50 to a 100 new nuclear plants. Each takes 3 to 5 thousand construction workers, steel and concrete began to be needed and trucks start to roll. The number of workers needed to support construction projects is unbelievable, restaurants, stores etc. At the same time we start a high speed rail system equal to the Interstate highway system along with rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure. We would began to put America back to work and income to the government would would increase immensely.

  • http://opinerlog.blogspot.com jim delaney

    If the House manages to somehow eschew party apparachiks by acting on its conservative American principles, that being the Constitution and the Republic first, the country has a chance. But, the road ahead is anything but certain. If the newly-elected and outnumbered Tea Party reps effectively assert their moral authority, constitutional order and integrity can be restored, but it will be a lengthy and bumpy process.I am greatly encouraged by, among other freshmen, Rand Paul,Allen West, Marco Rubio, et. al. but the task before them is enormously challenging. My advice is to remain actively engaged in the political process, write editorials, hold your reps’ feet to the fire, and don’t allow our them to further stray into alien Progressive territory. I also believe the ultimate solution rests with the States. When gov’t overreaches, whether it be the Executive, Legislative or Judicial branch, States should unhesitatingly nullify. An Article V Constitutional Convention should also be called to repeal the 17th Amendment and to fashion an amendment which more effectively reigns the out of control Judiciary which has dangerously strayed so far from the Constitution. We cannot continue to attack the symptoms of our decay, but rather the fundamental causes. Only nullification and an Article V Constitutional Convention can remedy those causes of our self-destruction. We must get serious. No more compromising with alien ideology.

    • http://n.cates@cox.net Norman F.

      Jim; A Constitutional Convention is the worst idea that has been brought up. We have already had one and it resulted in the demise of the existing government and the founding of the current one. Its called the Constitutional Convention of 1787. To have an open Constitutional Convention would destroy our present form of government and burden us with one that would put in place all the things we complain about on this site.

    • Karolyn

      Jim -Can you tell me what “apparachiks” are?

  • Carley Riggs

    for what is left, it is still our’s. It took blood to get it, it may take blood to keep it, AMERICA THE GREAT.

  • Bob Wire

    My, My , we a gloomy bunch today!

    This is no way to start out a new year.

    Things are bad enough without you making them only worse

    with negative self-destructive thoughts that are self-foretelling and very self-defeating.

    There is no need to be shocked with your position, it’s been many years in the making and didn’t “just happen”! Have you just awoke from a dream?

    The quality of your life still depends largely on you and how you react to it and the world around you.

    This morning, someone, somewhere in the dense sweltering jungles of Asia and the frozen tundra of the Ukraine are both enjoying a great day, why can’t you? Where they feel proud with the pig they have caught and bring home to their woman or that the overnight snowfall was light and they are not having to dig out again this morning.

    How would you enjoy camping out with Moses for 40 years, enjoying the great outdoors? Oh to be back in Egypt where our tomorrows planed and certain!

    Myself? I’m working on 2009 income taxes before I leave.

    The aliens have arrived to take the prettiest and brightest and I just want to tell everyone, ~ Bye!

    Self-importance is a curse. Take a reality check.

    • Karolyn

      LOVE IT BOB! A voice of sanity!! I’ll see you on the ship!!

    • JC

      Gee Bob, hadn’t thought of it that way.
      I guess I must be emotioanally or spiritually undeveloped but while there are plans afoot to destroy our nation and perhaps even ship us into FEMA camps I`m having a little trouble humming along to “Sunshine, Lollipops and Rainbows Everywherè”.
      With all due respect, could you hum loud enough for all of us please? ;)

      • Betsy

        Personally, I’m with the doom and gloom camp. Too much has been done
        that can not be undone.

        • Karolyn

          So what good does it do to agonize and complain about it? Bob is right about us taking ourselves too serously. We are mere molelcules in the whole of the universe.

          • JC

            You’re kidding right? We’re mere Molecules?
            Guess what…
            Despite the lofty idea that we are all “molecules”, I happen to be a flesh and blood human being. So are my family members. As such I have instincts, the greatest of which is survival. So, as a “molecule” I’d like to issue a warning…Any “molecule” that tries to hurt the “molecules” of my family will have their molecular little heads violently removed from their molecular little bodies with a 12ga shotgun as long this little molecule is breathing.
            Fair enough?
            Drift on little molecule. :)

          • Betsy

            What steps have you taken to survive what’s coming?

          • Bob Wire

            I’m glad the Holidays are over and things can get back to “normal” ~ To “do and work” ~ I doubt if any of you caught it ~ But the old “Science Fiction Theater” played all their old movies back to back, all day and all night over the holidays. Lots of drama about life, death and morality, by “then” budding youth actors and actress , like Claude Akins, Ernest Bornine, Lee Marvin,Richard Boone, ect, people that went on to have huge cinema careers and have since die!

            Survival, living, dieing, longing, lusting, loving and irony was always the center theme of each and every story.

            Which make me realize ~ irony is something many of you fail to accept or even acknowledge. It’s completely missing in your thought process as you present your thoughts.

            You hang on to life so tightly you chock the life out of your support. Do you not understand that you are greater the the sum of all your parts? That you are spirit first and then human? As you were promised, you will never die, only cease to be human.

            Oh well, ~ what am I going to do to survive? Stock up with food stuff and cast a low shadow, like always.

          • Christin

            Good come back JC.

            Thanks for the morning chuckle.

          • Karolyn

            You all have such a small view.

          • Bob Wire

            “JC says:
            January 3, 2011 at 10:57 am

            You’re kidding right? We’re mere Molecules?
            Guess what…
            Despite the lofty idea that we are all “molecules”

            well, I certainly hope so! and It’s not a lofty notion.

            The only thing that isn’t would be “EGO” and in you case JC is probably is as well! LOL!

            Ego and self importance are big items with you. I understand, it’s okay,it’s alright. But at some point I hope you manage to find some balance,~ to be so full of ones own self is a defense against ones own feelings of unworthiness or weakness. You notions of self-worth are in question by you and no one else.

            Should a mountain defend itself for being a mountain? No.

            Should a person defend themselves for being a person? No.

            There is nothing requiring you to speak of shotguns.

            It’s only ideas that are under attack and being discussed here today.

          • Karolyn

            The only thing we can be certain is coming is everlasting life!

          • JC

            Actually Bob, ego and self importance are irrelevant in any case.
            Sovereignty of the individual is the key priciple from which I operate. It;s an “American” thing, maybe you’ve heard about it?

          • Claire

            GO PACKERS!!!!

          • Bill

            Karolyn,

            A defeatist attitude if I have ever heard one. You make it to easy for them,just giving up plays right into their hands. We fight, and keep fighting – to the death if need be. The price of freedom is still bought with blood,or those who gave their lives for our freedom died in vain.

          • Karolyn

            Bill – I’m not defeatist by a long shot. I have always been a champion of some cause or another and will always use whateve methods at my disposal to continue. I just do not choose to constantly moan and complain and rant and rave, which does no good whatsoever. I choose, instead to focus on all that’s good in the world. It truly is not all bad, and that’s all that is heard here.

      • Bob Wire

        “I guess I must be emotionally or spiritually undeveloped but while there are plans afoot to destroy our nation and perhaps even ship us into FEMA camps”

        Ahh! I see! Well? A good guard dog is a wonderful thing to have and it pleases me that you accepted and seem to enjoy the work and position.

        Just permit me to add that a guard dog that barks are everything on the other side of the fence is close to worthless if he can’t discriminate the threat and you are left to hear him bark all the time.

        His liability and annoyance exceeds his value. Some people seem to have the talent to tune him out, which that alone makes him “ineffective”. Myself,I never possessed such a talent, left to find him a “new home”

        • JC

          What counts is being able to identify the target.

    • Strawberry Shortcake

      Denial
      Anger
      Bargaining
      Depression
      Acceptance

      Where are you at?

      • duggy dugg

        fight back ! don’t let the bank gangsters win ; end the fed !
        end campaign / pac / lobbby bribery ! !! ! !

      • Teresa

        Peace

        • Strawberry Shortcake

          That’s great for you Teresa…maybe your kids are grown, maybe you don’t have any. But when I look at my four babies…I can’t say any of what is going on brings me peace.

          • Betsy

            Strawberry, Wisdom goes around with her eyes wide open; not shut.
            Good for you, sounds like you have yours open. Would just like
            to remind you: there will be no real peace until He comes again.
            Anyone that advocates ‘world peace’ without taking into account
            His return would be someone I wouldn’t let know where my supplies are.

      • kate8

        Good one, Strawberry.

        Another thing that really sucks is that when the doodoo hits the fan, and supplies are short, those who failed to listen and made no provision are going to knock on doors expecting hand-outs from those who did.

        Many will be compassionate enough to share, and will probably suffer for it. The thing is, they shouldn’t have to. All were warned.

        • Claire

          Kate8–I have run out of room. Literally. I continue to rotate stock, watch dates, etc. You are correct, people may share, but it may be at the cost of their own lives. Best be prepared, everybody. We may have a depression, a horrific weather catastrophe, war, anything!

        • Betsy

          Kate, I am so happy you are posting on this site.

    • http://none Mike

      Ok Bob why dont we split this down the middle lol.I have a feeling that the good ship lollie pop is out there so to speak.But the piolets might just be waiting for us to grow up enough to understand why we are here.As for being the sum of our parts. Isnt that what our form of goverment was supposed to be? If so I dont think that its doing its job to well. So I will continue to work to change that. Maby if we do the good ship lolliepop just might land and usher us into the next stage of our evelution of knowledge.

      This being said I dont belive my faith in god would be shaken one bit if it came to pass that we werent alone out here. Erick Von Daniken is still devoutly religous despite of his theroies. Or maby its because of them? We have free will so that makes us more than just a cog in the wheel. Maby thats what we need to define most. Our free will. I am extreamly tired of others defineing that free will for us. Mike L.

  • Lev

    Again & again we go to religion,looking for the “G-d’s Help” instead of trying to s a v e our real country. At the same time our domestic enemies demolish America without any G-d, just doing that every day, every hour. Our unstoppable talking,buzzing and crying instead of any practical actions is a stupid and dangerous childish imitation and fake… Each step of our president and his government moves our country close and close to the edge of it’s existing. Yes, America is dying ! And we’re watching over her agony and…do nothing, like those hipnotized ignorant criminals called “progressive-liberals” who are the real murderers of our future and future of our children.
    We have to blame ourselves.
    All that we allow them to do with our country is unforgiven.
    We’re a members of this greatest crime against Freedom and Greatest Values, against our homeland called America.
    Shame on Us…

    • Allan Halbert

      So what are these practical actions you think your fellow criminal Americans failed to take?

    • duggy dugg

      LEV right on brother

  • Ellen

    Is anyone else getting the irony of this? We are probably the unhealthiest nation and we’re going to go to other nations and tell them how to do things. How about we over-vaccinate their kids and give them a 1 in 10 statistic on ADD or a 1 in 80 on Autism? Let’s also make sure their kids get strep infections about 6 to 8 times a year like our kids. And, we should make sure at least 20% are obese like our kids. We have such an excellent record here, surely we should spread our healthy ideas!

  • http://infowars ray

    I HOPE YOUR GRAND KIDS ARE NOT COWARDS AND I HOPE THERES A HAND FULL OF PEPOLE LEFT TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE

  • http://infowars ray

    SO GO BACK TO SLEEP SHEEPLETS

    • Bob Wire

      Good idea ! I love to get behind early so I have the rest of the day to catch up! ZZZZ ~ ZZZZ

  • Allan Halbert

    Bob L-

    After reading the article, and agreeing with aspects of it, my question to you is why we should not view people in the nutritional supplement business as a self-interest group like any other? Something tells me the ratio of opportunists to altruists is pretty universal. Fair question?

    • Karolyn

      Unfortunately, the supplement companies cannot compete with Big Pharma, who will benefit from the government curbing supplement sales. It’s time to stock up on vitamin D! (especially since the RDA has been made so low by the powers that be.)

      • Allan Halbert

        All kinds of small businesses would like to be more competitive (pursuit of self-interest) with their “big” competition. That doesn’t make them any more honest or capable! What’s funny about this is that in resenting the FDA, liberals are operating like conservatives! I guess it’s a very selective love of regulation.

      • kate8

        Karolyn – Such negativity coming form you!

        How is it that you can see what is being done with our health, but you aren’t able to see the bigger picture?

        Messing with our food supply and healthcare is only one aspect of the war against humanity, dear. What do you think is going on here? You think this come from well-meaning but ingorant people?

        Geez, girl. Get a grip. A positive outlook ain’t going to fix this.

        • Karolyn

          Well, what good is it screaming and compalining??? What good is spreading more negativity? Do you really think that enough people are going to get as mad as you guys and rise up. I don’t think so. You seem to think that you are in the majority. I don’t think so.

          • kate8

            Karolyn – Scripture tells us that the majority of people refuse to wake up and turn back to God, so He causes a great delusion to fall upon them and they are unable to see the Truth.

            We are instructed to watch and be aware, lest we are caught unprepared. We are told of the man who lamented that, had he known the thief was going to break in during the night, he would have made preparation.

            When everyone says ‘peace and safety’, disaster will befall them like a thief in the night.

            You are among the deluded, dear. Those willing to see through the haze are always the minority. Don’t ever say you weren’t warned.

          • Karolyn

            Kate – I’m just getting a little tired of you calling me deluded and acting as though I were a child. Who made you the “all knowing?” Just because you believe everything said in the interpretation of the Bible you wish to believe does not make you any more astute than anybody else.

          • kate8

            Sorry, Karolyn. But for someone of your advanced years, you sound more like a wide-eyed girl of 13. You know, Pollyanna. It’s pretty silly.

            I don’t know if I’m smarter than you, but you do seem a little short in the common sense department. And mainly I respond to your naive criticism of those who aren’t afraid to face the peril they can see looming overhead, including myself.

            Your statements are so full of holes it’s hard not to walk right in. You’d never hold up in court.

          • Karolyn

            Well, Kate, I’m pretty damn happy with myself.

          • kate8

            So you say. Often.

            In any case, enjoy it while you can. I have a feeling you’ll be one who won’t notice your neighbors being taken away in the wee hours.

          • Claire

            Kate8–If anyone comes after my neighbors they will be in for a rude awakening. I love my neighbors. We have grown old together, all of us. Here on my street we will help each other, come what may.

    • Bob Wire

      “It is the choice and depth of focus – and not the breadth and speed of expansion – that lead to sustained, profitable growth.” ~ Chris Zook

      anything that interferes with the ability of choice worthy consideration for adjustment. We see that a lot in America, much more so then even Mexico. Our government protect us from ourselves.

      • Allan Halbert

        This sounds like a conservative impulse to me Bob.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Allan Halbert,

      Certainly people in the nutritional supplement industry can be considered a self-interest group in that they are interested in what is best for their business. Other than that, I’m not certain what point you’re trying to make.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • Ronald Johnston

    osama obama

  • Tea Party

    There’s 3 things we need to change in the US Government…

    1 – Make it illegal for lobbyists and special interest groups to influence decisions and elections.

    2 – All government workers including politicians shall follow the law and be held accountable for every action, every vote.

    3 – All government workers shall have the same medical care and the same type of retirement benefits as we pauper citizens have. No more retiring at full salary. No more special care at our expense. They shall be required to purchase such things as health insurance the very same way that we do.

    All in all, the politicians should be no better than we the people. They should not be paupers going in (so to speak) and multi-millionaires coming out of office. That’s bullshit! I’m sick and tired of those politicians getting all the red carpet treatment which insulates them from the realities that we the people have to live through everyday. If they had to live as we do, things would be vastly different!

    • Bob Wire

      The first true step in real government reform!

      Tear down the protecting wall between government servants and the people.

    • duggy dugg

      TEE PEE add the following
      outlaw campaign contributions ; pac and lobby bribery

      outlaw u s bonds —- the cause of our national debt !! !

    • BobbyB

      There ya go! Problem solved!

      • Teresa

        Abolish “Political Correctness” over Civil Rights! Quit breaking the Constitutional laws! Remember that Congress works for WE THE PEOPLE!
        Audit the FEDS! Secure OUR borders! WE THE PEOPLE vote on judicial members, and time limits served!….just a few…

  • Mick

    ray says:
    January 3, 2011 at 9:12 am
    I HOPE YOUR GRAND KIDS ARE NOT COWARDS AND I HOPE THERES A HAND FULL OF PEPOLE LEFT TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE

    ************************

    ray………… Between our educational system, parents catering to their kids every whims ignoring discipline, so many laws diminishing their common sense and the ignorance of what America used to stand for I can’t see how they could do what needs to be done, they just won’t know how ………………….

  • http://non don b

    all of this is true, and all of this will result in a second civil war. i have been preaching this for several years now. it will take nothing less than a civil war to change things. greed has now taken ahold of our government so strongly, that it is addicted to power and money just as a drug addict. it clouds their vision so completely, that they will pursue the drug to their own peril, as drug addicts do. countries do indeed destroy themselves from within, usually not without. slave owners refused to give up their free labor over a hundred years ago, and much of the US infrastructure was destroyed to correct it. Hitler’s obsession with crushing jews was so blinding, that Germany and many other countries were brought to their knees because of a small group of crazy people.

    • Betsy

      Why do you think the “FEMA” concentration camps were built, bub?
      Because they expect riots and civil unrest, and already have places built to lock up all the ‘dissidents’.

      • duggy dugg

        betsy gets it ! she is awake ! hallelujah ! 298,000,000 more americans to go ! oh , sorry , i may have overlooked a few ; bob livingston ; ron paul …..

        • Betsy

          Thanks, Duggy. JimminneeCrickets! Even the posters on this article don’t get it. It’s one thing to anonymously post great, hyperbola sounding solutions. Have the poster’s been involved in politics?
          Even Voted? Written letters to their representatives, Senators?
          Scheduled meetings, and visits?
          Have these Pollyanna posters read “Shadows of Power”? Do they know what the Council on Foreign Relations is? The Trilateral Commission?
          Do they really know the truth behind the “Federal Reserve”?
          Hint: It’s NOT the United States Government.
          When you Sunshine people realize the wisdom behind those who post
          contrary to your uneducated, youthful, and impractical comments:
          THEN you will start realizing the UTTER SERIOUSNESS of WHAT is coming
          down the road and start preparing.

          • JC

            Personally, yes. I’m aware of all those things and more.
            And I don’t think the FEMA Camps are for detainment…well maybe for a little while, until they exterminate you.

          • kate8

            Betsy, Believe me, there are plenty of us who get it.

            JC – I agree about the camps. They don’t have stacks of millions of plastic coffins out back for no reason.

          • JC

            Kate…there is no way I will ever be lead into a FEMA Camp.
            If I am to die it will be in the service of American Liberty. :)

          • Teresa

            JC dont worry, you will be exterminated first, we all will!

          • JeffH

            Kate8 and JC, I guess the H1N1 didn’t fill up the “plastic coffins” so what will be next? I’ll agree with you JC…I’ll just say “from my cold, dead hands”!

          • kate8

            Well, I read that Hotel FEMA is piped for gas.

            The implication here is that the stays are short.

          • Betsy

            With the price of oil going to go sky -high, do you think we’ll get ?into fertilizer?

          • Betsy

            Ugh, editing. Prior post should have said:”Do you think we’ll all get made into fertilizer?”
            For those of you who object to my Sunshine Laugh for the day,
            please go to truetorahjews.com and read the TRUE narrative of how
            the Nazi’s made soap from the annihilated Jews.

          • kate8

            Betsy – Or maybe Soylent Green?

          • Betsy

            What’s soylent green?

          • kate8

            Betsy – LOL. It’s an old movie about the (then) future. Charleton Heston, I think. It was a long time ago.

            War had produced wreckage and famine, struggle for survival. The government had come out with nutritious crackers, a good source for protein. Everyone used them to sustain themselves (actual food was rare and highly valued).

            When people would die (or become useless?), the trucks would come around and collect them. People didn’t realize it, but they were taken to the cracker-plants…

          • Betsy

            Oh, Dear God. That is absolutely hilarious.
            The dead people were made into the crackers
            that the ‘live’ people ate??!!
            Always wondered where the word cracker came from. lol

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Marlon Folden

    If Bob is correct, and I think he is then it’s just a matter of time before anarchy begins. Maybe 5 years, ten years tops. The vote thing isn’t going to change anything. The gridlock and corruption will nullify your vote. Personally I think when the average law abiding, tax paying citizen is willing to go to jail for not paying taxes then you will see real change! It will take millions of us! Hey they can’t lock everyone up. Stop filing and stop paying your stupid mortgage. We are playing with monopoly funny money. Everyones home has lost at least 30% of it’s value, and even more soon. Gas is going to go to $5.00 bucks a gallon (trust me). Unemployment is going to continue to go up, so be wise and prepare. God is still in His heaven, no doubt about that. However just as God used immoral, pagan nations to judge Israel in the Old Test., he will use the same to judge America.

    • Betsy

      “Hey, they can’t lock up everyone”. First of all, a good part of the population will die from famine and starvation. THIS IS YOUR WORLD-WIDE FOOD RATIONING SYSTEM that you are seeing come into place. Secondly, the ones that resist will be shot. So, there will not be that many left to put into lock-up.

    • Bob Wire

      Well, it’s true ~ that’s the way to Jews told the story!

      I personally think it’s was tit for tat and you’ve been listening to only one telling of the story. ~ much like the rest of us.

      I do not believe in a predetermined future but cause and effect are forces that can’t be overcame.

      We’ve been tracking a wrong heading on a national level for some times. We need to understand that we are not the Universe but live in a world of Nations who holds notions of self-interest.

      Our current problems are the results of Americans nation interest interfering with other nations under various ruse of self righteousness benevolence while masking global dominance and our own interest.

      I’d like for everyone’s freedom to end where my nose begins.

      I’d like for America to control it’s borders and send people back to wherever they came from if they don’t belong here as accorded law.

      I’d like to lighten up on worrying about other nations and do some housecleaning around the old campfire.

      In this day and age, North Korea don’t need or want nukes, she needs and wants the ability to feed and provide for her people without fear or threat from outside sources.

      This fear and threat is what has created these conditions we deal with today.

      Other nations are not foolish and know this and resist us. We know this, while our own government mask the “intent” with lies.

      It’s got to the point, we choose wish lie we wish to believe and defend.

      I’ve watched my mother get old, she use to have a job and work outside the home and was happy. Then she retired and looks out the window, she became the block police! Anything she could see from her window became her business. Now she’s old , tired and just sits at the back of the house with window view of her garden fussing about the birds and squirrels. I haven’t she her happy in a long time.

      Insanity takes many forms.

      • JC

        Thanks for the reflective thinking Bob.
        I think most of us want to see things get better.
        Socialism isn’t better…but the so called “capitalist”
        (actually cronyism)system we have now isn’t the way either.

        • Claire

          Bob Wire– Good post.

      • http://none Mike

        Bob, I think I might have been somewhat wrong for calling you out in the past. Upon reading that post we arent so far apart.Mike L.

      • Betsy

        Bob, I’m not sure to whom you were addressing your remarks. If it was me, I say this. Blessed is the Nation who calls me Lord, and cursed is the nation that does not.
        Africa, India, China, Japan and Russia are historically NOT
        delineated as “Christian” nations. God controls the weather, the rain,
        and the winds.
        My objection is this. If my arthritic hands and knees are working
        to grow my own food to feed myself and my family [as God has ordained], then I shall not take kindly to the World-Wide FOOD RATIONING system that is coming into place right before your eyes.

  • http://Yahoo Raymond

    Many good points made here, but IMO the most important has not been stated: we the polity have been seduced into sucking at the government’s teat for so long that far too often we vote motivated more by our parochial self-interest than that of the commonweal. Politicians, being the practiced prostitutes they are, recognize what the voters want and are only too glad to provide it. Until (doubtful in my cynical point of view) voters stop being so myopic and selfish and begin voting with their heads rather than their wallets, things will not only remain static but deteriorate as the entitlement mentality of Joe citizen takes deeper roots in the “public mind”.

    Hard to be optimistic when we are by nature a selfish lot, me included.

  • CLARENCE SWINNEY

    I have yet to meet and discuss our situation with a person who realized how we got to this point.

    The answer is just a few simple facts
    Decade of 1990′s were great years.
    Full employment. Pay our way. Peace. Admired.

    Let us tell the people these facts Obama and D leaders will not.
    (rounded numbers)

    Clinton left Bush 240B Surplus
    Bush added on 6000B of Debt (more in 8 than we had at end of 225)
    Clinton left Bush 1800B Budget
    Bush took to 3600B
    Clinton left Bush a creation of 237,000 net new jobs per month.
    Bush took down to 31,000 or worst since Hoover
    Clinton left Bush Prosperity
    Bush took to a Great Recession
    Clinton left Bush Peace on Earth
    Bush took to Hell on Earth with two wars of choice.
    Clinton left as most admired leader in the world
    Bush left as most hated leader in the world

    OBAMA INHERITED THIS MESS God help him

    easy to recall six items tell a story
    1800-3600
    240-6000
    237,000-31,000
    Prosperity-Great Recession
    Peace-War
    Love-Hatred

    tell the people
    clarenceolduglymanhonestswinney

    • duggy dugg

      clarence ; the clinton “surplus” was “projected” not real ; on paper only ;
      since 1913 the banksters who own the non-federal “fed” have been siphoning off our national wealth and individual wealth via income taxes ! it’s true ! u s bonds are sold to the fed ; the u s bond is an obligation to pay interest and a baloon payment that you and i pay with our income taxes !
      BORROW ; SPEND ; TAX is how the gov’t runs ; america borrows its money from the “fed” and others instead of printing its [ our ] own currency …free from debt !! ! ! !

    • Ellen

      You forgot to mention that Bill Clinton’s success was really provided by a Republican-lead Congress (thanks Newt!). Bush’s major damage was provided by the Democratic-lead Congress from the last couple years of his 2nd term. You may also want to remember the multiple times Republicans tried to get Fannie & Freddie under control and were shot down by Barney & Chris – leading to a worldwide financial meltdown.

      • BobbyB

        That’s one of the biggest piles of horse manure from the far right. A second of thought can clear it up but know one thinks. They just repeat what Rush, Sean, etc say on radio or Fox News. Bush STILL had the veto pen from 06 to 08 and used it often after rubber stamping everything the R congress wanted.

        As far as the Rs trying to fix Freddy and Fanny, it was one R Graham that slipped the repeal of Glass Stegal in the middle of the night in to a bill. Clinton said signing it was one of his biggest mistakes. he does tell the truth now and then~

    • JeffH

      …never was a Clinton surplus! Clinton did it with Washington doublespeak and half truths. To understand what happened requires you to know what makes up the national debt.

      The national debt is made up of public debt and intergovernmental holdings.

      The public debt is debt held by the public, normally including things such as treasury bills, savings bonds, and other instruments the public can purchase from the government.

      Intergovernmental holdings, on the other hand, is when the government borrows money from itself–mostly borrowing money from social security.

      A Balance transfer from one credit card to another doesn’t equal debt reduction it just means you owe someone different.
      http://activerain.com/blogsview/855368/the-clinton-budget-surplus-fact-or-fiction-

      • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner

        Jeffh,

        Wrong,When George (Scab) Bush Left office we were saddled down down with and enormous deficit.,we got to give credit where credit is due.

        President Clinton announced Wednesday that the federal budget surplus for fiscal year 2000 amounted to at least $230 billion, making it the largest in U.S. history and topping last year’s record surplus of $122.7 billion.”This represents the largest one-year debt reduction in the history of the United States,” Clinton said Wednesday morning. “Like our American athletes in Sydney, we’ve been breaking records and have come a long way.”In June, the administration predicted the surplus would be $211 billion, and would increase by as much as $1 trillion over the next 10 years.Clinton also announced the federal government paid down the national debt by $223 billion this year, and by more than $360 billion since 1998, the largest debt reduction in U.S. history.”The key to fiscal discipline is maintaining these results year after year. We need to put our priorities in order,” Clinton said.The president’s news comes as lawmakers on Capitol Hill continue to wrestle with the fiscal year 2001 budget numbers. The new budget year begins October 1, and Congress and the White House remain at odds over spending allocations.”I hope we will see a continuation of this trend in the final budget negotiations,” the president said. “I am concerned frankly about the size and last-minute nature of this year’s congressional spending spree.” Congress, Clinton said, has not adequately funded education programs, strengthened Medicare and funded other domestic priorities set forth by the administration.”These are the things that need to be done and I certainly hope they will be and still make the right investments and the right amount of tax cuts,” Clinton said.The president unveiled the new numbers in a statement at the White House, before departing for fund-raising events in Dallas and Houston.”This is part of our fiscal discipline to reduce the debt with the federal surplus,” said one White House official who asked not to be identified. Reducing the debt, the official said, has “real effects for real Americans.” It means lower interest rates for mortgages, car loans and college loans, and leads to an increase in investment and more jobs.”It is the third year in a row the federal government has taken in more than it spent, and has paid down the debt. The last time the U.S. government had a third consecutive years of national debt reduction was 1949, said the official.The federal budget surplus for fiscal year 1999 was 122.7 billion, and 69.2 billion for fiscal year 1998. Those back-to-back surpluses, the first since 1957, allowed the Treasury to pay down $138 billion in national debt that Scab Bush left us.

    • Bill

      The real legacy Clinton left us with was a trade off of morality for prosperity.

  • Bill

    When Osama Obama gets his civilian man army he spoke of when he was running for president I doubt if there will be any more free elections. Our military is be destroyed with homosexuals and when he gets his civilian man army loyal to him good buy elections. His army will be like Hitler’s brown shirts.

    • eddie47d

      Your rant is more nonsense. I approve of the concept of The Tea Party so does that make them a civilian army that is out to destroy everyone else. We can all play spin the bottle with facts so try using some.

      • Betsy

        Actually, Bill’s comment’s are not a rant: they hit the nail on the head. Start reading and KEEPING UP with all the Executive Orders
        the muslim in dc has been signing. When he gets enough illegals in here (including plans for 80 million African refugees/year), he will soon have what Bill said.
        By way of proof; last year obama upped the funding of all the
        immigration offices.

        • eddie47d

          That includes for the border patrol, and that 80 million? Have you been tipping? I know I’m getting dizzy from all the exaggerations.

          • Betsy

            The increase in funding was for the Immigration Offices only.
            Go read “Climate Refugees” and start putting two and two together.

  • Delores Smith

    BOB LIVINGSTON – AN EXCELLENT ARTICLE – THANKS…
    AMERICANS…
    Those of you who feel a Revolution is the answer will be giving Obama and George Soros exactly what they wants. Everything that is being done is to instill fear in us and for us to revolt. Obama and Soros want to enact a National Emergency Act that is now on the books. I will not fall for it. Use your minds. Give this Congress an opportunity to prove themselves. Contact your rep and your Senators. Watch Committees and votes on C-Span. It is work, but we can solve this. I will send a link on Cloward-Piven stategy. You decide if this is being done deliberately. I know that it is and I am not giving up.
    Delores Smith Delores109@cox.net

    • duggy dugg

      i am saddend and angry that the flying public puts up with groping genitals or irradiating genitals at airport check in !! ! !
      the world dictatorist boyz are sneaking in restriction after restriction on our freedom ; we have demonized islam and been agressive towards islamics to build an enemy to justify war ; war spending ; take over ; freedom elimination ;

      i am surprized that we haven’t joined the israeli extemists in attacking gaza ….
      we have military in 130 countries out of 160 ! ! ! ! ! !

      • JC

        What you are describing is an Imperialist Police State.

      • JeffH

        …duggy dugg…speaking of the TSA groping, I will share this email I recieved today: Romance novel material……..?

        He grasped me firmly but gently just above my elbow
        and guided me into a room, his room. Then he quietly shut
        the door and we were alone.

        He approached me soundlessly, from behind, and spoke
        in a low, reassuring voice close to my ear. “Just relax.”

        Without warning, he reached down and I felt his
        strong, calloused hands start at my ankles, gently probing,

        and moving upward along my calves slowly but steadily.
        My breath caught in my throat.
        I knew I should be afraid, but somehow I didn’t care.
        His touch was so experienced, so sure.

        When his hands moved up onto my thighs, I gave a
        slight shudder, and partly closed my eyes. My pulse was
        pounding. I felt his knowing fingers caress my abdomen, my ribcage..
        And then, as he cupped my firm, full breasts in his hands, I inhaled
        sharply. Probing, searching, knowing what he wanted, he brought
        his hands to my shoulders, slid them down my tingling spine and
        into my panties.

        Although I knew nothing about this man, I felt oddly trusting
        and expectant. This is a man, I thought. A man used to taking
        charge. A man not used to taking “No” for an answer. A man who
        would tell me what he wanted. A man who would look into my soul
        and say … “Okay ma’am,” you can board your flight now.”

  • eddie47d

    Bob Livingston says “America aims to abolish cross-border business and investments” Does that mean NAFTA,CAFTA and the new South Korea plan? NAFTA has probably done more harm than good and there are plenty who would like to see it changed. How about those Codex requirements? Bob says “health food stores will be stripped” and to me that means put out of business. That sounds like a wild assumption by Bob and would serve no purpose. What proof is there that that will happen? I don’t see GNC or Vitamin Cottage leaving the market or even Whole Foods. They do charge too much for their products but most people who shop there are willing to pay for better health. Now Monsanto and other Corporations are messing with our health. Nutrition is being watered down for profits with chemicals and boxed foods. Some of Bob’s article is so true but other parts contradicts Washington’s. Healthier school lunches are being encouraged by getting the fast foods out of our schools. They are also trying to deal with the diabetic and obesity problem which is a good sign.

    • duggy dugg

      look up codex alimentarius ; it proposes exactly that : making supplements illegal unless prescribed by a doctor ;
      do you like the taste of genetically modified peaches , eddy ?

      • eddie47d

        I don’t believe there are any genetically modified foods that I approve of dugg. It would be nice if they could be kept out of this country but it’s our corporations doing it. I personally don’t believe they are too powerful to defeat but there are plenty of folks who think corporations walk on water.

        • kate8

          eddie – Yeah. Big corporations whose stock is held by members of Congress and the FDA.

          You still don’t get it, do you? Congress just passed laws mandating this stuff. OUR GOVERNMENT IS A CORPORATION. A really big one, that appears to be made up of smaller ones, but are all owned by the same wealthy elite.

        • Betsy

          Eddie, are you aware of how many FDA officials are former Monsanto
          employees? And how many FDA officials go to work for Monsanto?
          Start by looking up “The Bitter Truth about Aspartame” and
          then go watch : The World According to Monsanto.

      • JeffH

        duggy dugg, did you know that n the U.S., three government agencies have jurisdiction over GM foods? The EPA evaluates GM plants for environmental safety, the USDA evaluates whether the plant is safe to grow, and the FDA evaluates whether the plant is safe to eat. Mandatory food labeling is also a complex issue. The FDA’s current position on food labeling is govered by the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, which is only concerned with food additives, not whole foods or food products that are considered GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe). The FDA contends that GM foods are substantially equivalent to non-GM foods, and therefore not subject to more stringent labeling. Captialism, not crony capitalism is what feeds America.

        You might be interested in reading this:How to Cultivate a Food Crisis
        http://biggovernment.com/rbidinotto/2010/12/27/how-to-cultivate-a-food-crisis/

        • kate8

          JeffH – Government wouldn’t do that to us now, would they?

          How long must we shout this stuff before people start to listen. We are being deliberately poisoned from every part of our environment. But shshshshsh. That kind of talk makes people uncomfortable.

          • JeffH

            Shhhh!

          • JeffH

            kate8, and where do these governments do their testing? In the lab and in poverty stricken third world countries!

    • Betsy

      What it means is NO Borders between Canada and Mexico in the NEAR future.

      • Teresa

        thats exactly what he means…i posted it over a week ago!

    • Betsy

      Eddie, are you seriously putting diabetes in the same group as people
      who cannot or will not control their overeating and exercise?

  • duggy dugg

    BRAVO BOB a pundit who gets it ! u s bonds are the immediate problem ;
    gov’t sells bonds , american public takes on the debt !

    if gov’t printed dollars instead of u s bonds …….NO DEBT !! ! !

    income taxes go to pay the vig on the national debt to the non-federal “fed” ; the “fed” pays for bonds with dollars it counterfeited ! federal reserve notes are bogus ; america hasn’t printed its own dollars [ united states notes ] since 1913 ; the year the federal reserve bank was bribed into existence ; see clip below

    The Federal Reserve a Criminal Organization

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9nbAZBz-ZQ

  • nehope

    Most writers do express wishful thinking in regard to the present financial situation and the possible remedies.
    To those who constantly quote the Bible and put their hopes into Bible solutions – I would say you are hopelessly lost.
    I am an optimist, but I am also a realist. How long has it taken to bring the US to it’s knees? Since 1945 it has been a slow but steady decline. It is most unhealthy to touch on the truth of the causes. However, I am encouraged by a few of the writers who hit the nail on the head. I assume that these few people have read and studied history. One has to compare the population to a herd of sheep. One or two dogs can dominate hundreds of sheep. I do not have an answer to the coming disaster but I would suggest that you take your money out of the stock market. Listen to the TV commercials where certain individuals are buying your OLD GOLD. when you get the drift you will understand how close we are to a monster problem. Get out of Mutual funds, exchange your cash into something which will withstand the the upcoming storm. (I am not talking about the weather either:))forget about your local News Paper, your TV NEWS, forget about politics. The coming correction will not be a political one but a catastrophic monetary disaster. Could I be wrong? Of course, but I went through two such upheavals and believe me this will not be a laughing matter. As you may have guessed, I am of a high age, I do not have much to lose anymore. But I do feel sorry for all the younger people who are practically without a future. I wish you all luck in 2011. W.

    • mark

      I remember a collapsing economy, not a collapsing government. And I recall a presidential race in a rush to get help from big brother. And I remember the public outcry for government to fix the economy in ruins from wall street selling America out. And now America is not happy with what America asked Government to try to do in the fix.
      If we can have more specifics about what in government today is hurting small businesses and what it is that corporate business is forced to operate in foreign lands it would help us to rally on specific issues and perhaps help fix the fix.

    • eddie47d

      There is nothing wrong with owning gold but most of those TV ads only want your money. They are not paying top dollars so beware.

      • James

        Eddie47d, that’s a given, Nehope was simply making the point that stock markets are not now the place to be. These TV buyers of old gold jewelry and coins are simply taking advantage of people and getting rich. My guess is they are melting it down and immediately selling it for a substantial profit.

        • nehope

          I am so pleased to see that there are some who see things as they are.

          I suggest that these people do not re-sell the gold for a profit, they wait until gold will be priceless. Since these people are of superior intelligence, we should try to learn from them. Are you reading me?

      • nehope

        You are right, but remember they are buying that gold with useless money!

      • JC

        Winchester and Remington want my money too.
        And ya know what? I give it to them in exchange for another precious metal. ;)

        • JeffH

          JC…and you have to buy it by the “grain” too! LOL

          • JeffH

            …or “gauge/caliber”…

          • JC

            Or by the case lot. ;)

          • JeffH

            JC, “by the case” is my preference.

        • http://none Mike

          JC, Shh dont let them see you talking that way. I wouldent want to read about the next Ruby Ridge incident in your home town. Beside the point take a look at rail and coil guns on the youtube while we still can. Kinetic is the way to go and its fairly simple to build. :) Mike L.

          • JC

            hey Mike, I appreciate the thought. But I actually use most of what I buy target shooting at distance. It’s a pretty serious hobby (competition) for me and some ex-military guys I hang out with.

    • James

      Nehope, I essentially agree, but I would argue against buying gold. When people turned to gold, after the stock market crash of 1929, FDR had possession of it outlawed. FDR is President Obama’s hero, and I”m sure he will do the same. I would buy silver instead, it’s still way underpriced. Since the DJIA crashed to below 7,000 (in 2008), it has risen to 11,500+. I expect it to really crash, any time now, and set a new low. I would get out of market now, you don’t want to sell into a collapsing market.

      • nehope

        You are another one of the few who knows what he is talking about. I agree with you on the Silver. It would be a life saver when a loaf of brad will be 10,000.00+. Who do you believe will get the loaf of Bread, the guy with the useless money or the person with a hand full of pre 1966 silver coins.
        As to Gold, you are right it could be confiscated, but only if they find it. Also I have know people who bought rows of houses with gold when no one had any REAL money.There are also issues which I do not dare to say. Good luck.

        • http://none Mike

          nehope, Gold and silver is fine. But thoes that know how to work the land will be important too. Also thoes that can work with their hands and build things will be a force in an economy where barter outweigs the current currincies. People that can trade food for services and services for food will survive beyond the collaps of the dollar or the goverment. Thats why every day I seek knowledge that was lost in our run from our forfathers way of life. Mike L.

        • http://none Mike

          Kate, The problem is when they step over the bounds of humanity they will be brought to a reconing. That will be the ultiment judgement for them. What I was stateing was preperation for the total collaps of goverment world wide. Its happend before in our history as a race. And allways after the fall we have arisen stronger for it. It takes a disaster of biblical proportions to bring out the best in humanity. Mike L.

      • kate8

        Confiscation of gold is already in the provisions for the coming police state. And they know where most of it is.

        Actually, they plan to confiscate stored food, too. Having any self-sufficiency puts a crimp in their plans.

        • Betsy

          I hope everyone reading this is aware Bank Safety Deposit Boxes
          are among the first that will be confiscated. The law is already written and passed.

  • Bruce Eden

    Let’s see, all we need is for 100,000 dedicated people to show up in Washington DC and arrest the Muslim-in-Chief and the complicit Marxist Congress, and what are they going to do about it? Nothing! Because there aren’t enough law enforcement or military to stop 100,000 Americans from taking over the White House and Congress and stopping the fraudulent corporate government.

    Hey, we can get between half-a-million and a Million to show up for Glenn Beck. We got around 2 Million to show up on 9-12. Why can’t we get 100,000 armed citizens to take back the government once and for all?

    • Tea Party

      What about the million black man march? Since Osama Bin Obama is black, why not get another million black men AND a million white men AND a million of all other races together to go to DC and break down the fences, storm the white house, sabotage the helicopters and jets so Obama can’t leave, and take over the government?

      WE THE PEOPLE have far more power than any government in the world. But we the people need to STOP BEING SHEEP and TAKE CONTROL!

  • Tore Fossum

    Mr. Livingston, this is an excellent article. However, as I read the FSMA on page 217, the bill calls for FDA inspection of food being exported to the USA, not “to ‘dictate the food safety plans of foreign governments’”. I think Mr. Adams got this wrong.

    I have not found specific limits to supplements in Codex Alimentarius. The preamble states that “people should therefore be encouraged to select a balanced diet from food before considering any vitamin and mineral supplement.” Thus, the CA does not promote the use of supplements. However, I can relate my experience in Norway some years ago, and I suspect Norway is in harmony with most of the EU. I wanted some 1000 mg vitamin C tablets. A local health food store offered 60 mg vitamin C tablets. The proprietor stated that Norway does not allow more than 60 mg vitamin C per tablet. She said that Norwegians do not have the freedom to choose to supplement their diets in the way that US citizens do.

    Best regards
    Tore Fossum
    Dickinson, TX

  • Wordwaryor

    There are two Americas now. One Red and One Blue.
    The Blue one is Socialist Communist Facist ….. and the Red One is still lost in the weeds of RINO land, but slowly recovering. The Red America is Conservative…. and the Awakening Tea Party group is recovering from a long sleep, and entering the land of Revival and Revolution that was based on America’s original Constitution. (Not the one the Liberals want you to believe…. but the one the Founders put on parchment long ago…. you know … the ONE that was truly Revolutionary…. and the One that ACTUALLY WORKED for almost 200 years).

    The Original intent of the Consitution is the bedrock foundation of our nation, and we must get back to it an set our feet back on its firm foundation for support.

    We must throw the Bums out of Congress who no longer adhere to the Founder’s intent for the Constitution, and restore at long last our nation to its True and Inerrant pathway to greatness again.

    Long Live the Constituiton !!

    • mark

      I remember a collapsing economy, not a collapsing government. And I recall a presidential race in a rush to get help from big brother. And I remember the public outcry for government to fix the economy in ruins from wall street selling America out. And now America is not happy with what America asked Government to try to do in the fix.
      If we can have more specifics about what in government today is hurting small businesses and what it is that corporate business is forced to operate in foreign lands it would help us to rally on specific issues and perhaps help fix the fix. The real issue is the economy.

      • Tea Party

        If it’s broke, fix it. If it can’t be fixed, then throw it out and get another one.

        The latter applies to our federal government. It can’t be fixed. It’s too corrupt, greedy and out of touch with the realities of the average citizen.

        That’s why I advocate taking over the government and holding a public trial. Those found guilty shall be made an example of as was Saddam Hussein, public hangings, public executions. Enough is enough!

  • Wordwaryor

    Obama has just recently by Regulatory Fiat …. Reinstated the “Death Panels” (aka End of Life Counseling) into Obamacare. The very same ones that got voted out of the Health Care Legislation, have been put back by regulatory fiat.

    So much for the Will of the People.

    This was also done in a very “on the Quiet” basis….. With stern warnings for the regulatory staff “not to talk about it”. So much for the Transparency of the Obama administration (that he PROMISED while campaigning for office.)

    • Tea Party

      We need the death panels, but not the kind the government is forcing upon us.

      The kind of death panel we need is the public executions of the traitors in the US Government…

    • eddie47d

      You all talk in extremisms and the majority of Americans won’t storm Washington in violence or join you’re cause to do so. Muslim in chief,marxists,socialist,communist, fascists,and death panels only endear the right wing radicals. That might make you feel good at the moment yet turns most folks off. Angry people throughout the world seldom make dynamic leaders who care about rule of law. (Mugabe of Zimbabwe). You may not change things for the better and seem to be offering more confusion or layers of bitterness.

  • Michael

    Here’s a novel idea: why not abolish all government oversight except for protection of the public? Yes, only the military and a few other necessary centers of government, like the Center for Disease Control, would be allowed to operate. That way, there would be no restriction to what we as a people could accomplish. Imagine discovering the cures for cancer, heart disease, diabetes, etc. all in a few years from now! What about loosing the restrictions to the marketplace…no income tax, occupational tax, corporate tax, environmental tax, etc. to cut into the profit line of ANY business! If we had this type of chance, I know we would absolutely find profitable ways to sustain our way of life, while reducing the price of everything, and all the while protecting our health, food supply, and such.

    • mark

      Is government big business? Is government big money in Wall Street? What are the specific government laws which stifle and hinder the business marketplace? How do we as a people change what needs to be changed?

      • Tea Party

        By not paying anymore income taxes! That’s how. Ask yourself this question: From 1791 to 1862, there was NO INCOME TAX… There were INTERNAL taxes within the government on distilled spirits, carriages, refined sugar, tobacco and snuff, property sold at auction, corporate bonds, and slaves.

        Of course, today there’s no more slavery, but all the other things are still in existence.

        The income tax was was eliminated in 1872, and for 22 years, the country did just fine until the income tax was revived in 1894. If the country could do just fine back then – then we can do just fine today. We can tax the things that were taxed back then, and then furthermore, we can tax IMPORTS of every kind. That will slow down the junk we get from China, Korea, and other places and increase production in THIS country!

        • ValDM

          You’re kidding yourself if you think there’s no more slavery. We’re slves to the Feds by paying income taxes. We’re slaves to the states and feds by obeying a bunch ofa laws that make no sense. You can’t even leave your front door without breaking some law or other. Yes, we’re slaves, and we did it to ourselves.

          • http://none Mike

            ValDM, Might add wage slavery to that list as well. Keep the pay low offer incentives for your employees to use that wage back to the company.Thus the dollars paid are returned to you via product bought.Who owns you then? Its not really all that diffrent from a plantation. Where the slaves were fed, clothed and housed by their owner. Wages only give the appearance of freedom. But once you pay the goverment their share as well as spend back a large portion of that wage back to the employer. How much free cash flow is left? Mike L.

  • Tazio2013

    Today from Truthdig; a relatively objective POV:

    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_left_has_nowhere_to_go_20110102/?ln

  • Delores Smith

    AMERICANS,
    Please read the Cloward-Piven Strategy if you have not done so already. Obama and Soros want a Revolution. Don’t give it them. Read my previous notice and here is the link for Cloward Piven. There is a photo in this with Frances Fox Piven watching CLINTON signing a document. OBAMA and SOROS are attempting to collapse our economy.

    http://apathetic-usa.com

    Delores Smith
    Delores109@cox.net

    • BobbyB

      Cloward-Plivens is just another tactic to divert blame from the one’s that are to blame. WAKE UP PEOPLE! The wealth has already been redistributed and it’s not coming back as long as you continue to blame the poor for all our woes. The poor have not taken our homes, retirement, savings, etc. The MEGA rich have. Look at what was spent on the bail out of the financial sector and compare it to the ever diminishing amount spent on social services.
      Most of the bail out money went in to the pockets of a FEW people. Those FEW people are trying every trick in the book to keep you from seeing the man behind the curtain and it isn’t the evil George Soros. Limbaugh, Beck and Hannity are paid small fortunes to shovel out this horse manure~

  • Delores Smith

    BOB LIVINGSTON,
    My above comment with the link for the Cloward-Piven stategy does not need moderation. It is the TRUTH. I have verified this in many, many ways. If you don’t print this, you might bring about a Revolution without wanting to. Don’t give Obama and Soros what they want.
    Delores Smith
    Delores109@cox.net

    • Strawberry Shortcake

      Delores…what is your solution? Voting? The government doesn’t need a revolt to enact anything, sure that is one way but not the ONLY way. The dollar collapsing is a good one…or a fabricated (but real) pandemic (bio-terrorism inflicted by our own country) etc. What happens to the bully when enough people have had enough of the big bully? Your mentality peacefully gets you delivered to the wolves…or the gas chambers (like the Jews).

      • Delores Smith

        STRAWBERRY SHORTCAKE,
        Please do not insult my mentality. It is my mentality and my viewpoint. I respect your point of view. Pick up a gun and march, if you choose. Obama has already reported the people of Arizona (where I live)to the United Nations for human rights violations. They have the Interpol army. Obama wants a civilian army as well. I refuse to give Obama and Soros the physical fight that they want. They will have to fire ther first bullet. I choose to use my mind to defeat them.
        Everyone, stop fearing these bastards, and use your minds!
        Delores Smith Delores109@cox.net

        • Strawberry Shortcake

          Thanks Glenn…

          • Strawberry Shortcake

            p.s. DELORES. This blog is full of opinions, many of which differ from one person to the next. If you’re going to use your mind you may want to toughen up your skin a bit first…I’m just sayin.

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Delores Smith,

      Our filters automatically catch postings with more than one link. Your link, combined with your email link, caused it to be caught by the filter. These stay there until the moderator has time to vet them.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Delores Smith

        BOB LIVINGSTON,
        Thank you for your reply.
        Delores Smith
        Delores109@cox.net

  • http://www.greatamericanculture.com 1greatamerican

    I am one of those individuals who have been fighting the decline of America’s morals and honor. It all started with local schools and now corrupt politicians. What I have seen and continue to see is this; The majority of those who disagree and state they are angry about the corruption, never go beyond complaining! There is no action only lip service. If we want to turn this country around and bring it back to our original Constitutional roots. We then must fight! We must fight like we have have never fought before.
    I’m not calling for violence I’m telling you all to pick up the phones and call your Representatives. Form groups and physically go to the White House and make demands. Demand that our government follow the Constitution to the letter. Demand that laws be put in place that makes it a crime for any government official including politicians to lie to the American people! Enforce our laws that protect us from tyranny and remove these people from office. We have options! To say that we can’t fight the “Beast” is nuts! We can fight and we can win! Get off your rear ends and make it happen!

    • Tea Party

      Are YOU going to start this movement? Are YOU going to get the motion going to assemble people? If you are, I’ll join you!

  • Tea Party

    Do you want to know how to get rid of the deficit? It’s really easy. Stop buying pencils for $50 each. Stop funding nonsense research that benefits anyone. Who cares how groundhogs mate and etc. Pass a law that the government cannot be in the red anymore so than we can be in our bank accounts.

    That’s just for starters. Billions of dollars each year are squandered away on bullshit and it’s got to stop. Politicians can’t run their own personal finances in the red. Why should they be allowed to run the country’s finances in the red? And why do we tolerate it????

    That’s what I mean when I say people are sheep. They allow it and they just follow along with it, saying and doing nothing.

  • Tunaman

    Everyone take a deep breath and ponder these FACTS: Every human that is born is mortal and will die; you will leave the same way that you came into life, your mortal body and nothing else!! No cars, jewelry, gold,nothing!! I know there are a lot of unblievers in GOD, the GOD of Abraham,Issac, and Jacob, out there!! But you all say GOD is not there!! Just because you don’t believe in GOD doesn’t mean GOD is not there!!! Get the bible and check out the Book of Revelations!!! Maybe you will get your eye opened to why these things are happening in the world!! It’s prophesy!! The only real solution is to look up and PRAY TO GOD!!!

    • Tea Leaf

      Tunaman, I also believe in God and the power of prayer. During world war two approx. 6 million jews were murdered, I believe most of them prayed? Those who fought back at Sobibor and escaped at least had fighting chance. If you chose to live on your knees you will most likely die on your knees. If you make no physical as well as spiritual effort to stop the cancer that is eating America, you are not following biblical teaching, believers are to oppose an ungodly form of government.

      • 45caliber

        You are correct. “God helps those who help themselves.” It is too bad people don’t understand this.

        On the other hand, just working to better things yourself is useless if you do not include God. It is He who guides us and let’s us know what is right and wrong. Too many don’t believe or understand that either.

        It takes BOTH.

  • http://com i41

    Tea Party, Every 4 months our President and Congress persons and all agencies and staffs, should have to be drug tested. Any time some one is hied for a job we get drugged tested. If they test hot, they must forfeit their salaries and benefits. When people say USA cannot stop drug use and it never has happened. Yes it has, when Britian sent herion to China for years and got most of the male population addicted. China disposed the users and drealers on the spot. The idea of the airy fairy talking and cajolling these drug idoits, has never worked. Talking sure didn’t work with Kim Who Flung Dung or Amjustadork. A good hard a$$ kicking would be cheaper and faster. But that would run counter to the beleifs of all marxist commmunist union democrap socialist party idoits, They think we can just talk about problems, play patty cake, and drink Perrier water. When Puke Carter wasted 440 days with Iran holding hostages, the sorry a$$ed muslim diaper heads were afraid when hostages told them Reagan would knock the living s–t out of them, if the hostages were not realeased. Sure enough, durning the inagural ceremonies our people were rerleased. The marxist muslim crossbred mutt cann’t and has always been a numnutted queer and if his telepromter does tell him what to do, hewill just golf.. Whorehound Clinton appointed his favorite dike, Janey Reno, when she told him, she wanted to be AG or the house of cards of his drugs shipmentswould fold. When information was discovered that Whorehound was 1/2 owner of a plane that flew in drugs. Between skipping out on paying their taxes and no there were not any repurctions. Wheather it is from stealing, raping, dealing, and using drugs, socialist democraps are a scourge of the USA. Whorehound sure didn’t leave a surplus, it was a acounting change, or just simple cooking the books. Especially all the wasted federal lands that were put into wilderness areas, and ther mandatory reuirement of banks of making loans to minorities, with no job history or even jobs and nothing down.Until all of the MCUDSPs idoits quit beleiving and end the head bobbing, what every their money man, Nazi Traitor Socialist Soros wants. Now we are all waiting for the socialist democrats to refute Soros control over the brain dead idoits democrap party, including Onumnutts him self!

    • 45caliber

      We once got rid of drugs here too. Check back in the early days of the FBI. At that time drugs were all legal. You could go to the drug store and ask for anything – and get it. Ever heard of “laundrum”? It was a fancy name for a liquid made of opium. It was the favorite thing for social climbing women.

      The problem was that families were being destroyed by the addicted members. Further, the families were being starved by the addicts that would sell anything at any value for another dose of their favorite drug. Crime was up big time because the addicts would rob anyone for even a nickel.

      They got rid of drugs by making it hard on the addicts and the dealers. An addict could get as much as 10 years “at hard labor”. A dealer could get life. And the labor in prisons then was certainly hard! Many didn’t live the ten years – dealers never did.

      Unfortunately it was decided to hide that information from the public because they were afraid that the youth might want to experiment to see why the drugs were considered bad.

      • Karolyn

        It’s laudanum. Most medicines in the 1800s and early 1900s contained opium-related narcotics and alcohol. Coca Cola contained cocaine. As I’ve said before, man has gotten high since time began and ain’t gonna stop now.

    • Karolyn

      The CIA has been having covert operations involving drugs and many other scary scenarios while both dems and repubs have been in office. It doesn’t matter who’s been pres. I often wonder if it really is like they depct in the movies, where the President really doesn’t know what’s going on.

      • JC

        The President and everyone around him always have to have plausible deniabilty

  • Aaron

    Hello, my brother and sisters, I am son of a former Green Beret and I’m ver y proud of him and all our men and women who have and are serving to protect us. We all I love what the modo of the Green Beret says, ” DE OPPRESSO LIBER” which means, “Free of Oppression”. What my father has been teaching me is true. We the people have been so blind, because of work, or our own lives. We do not want to hear the news nor politics. Well, it has effected us so much. Do you know, if we come together we our Veterans and listen to them. They have alot to share about our Government. Our country talks about Democracy, well we dont see it. We are Native Americans, Chiricahua-Apaches and we have been mistreated very badly by our own Americans. We are still living in oppression lots of injustice committed to us. What the first Europeans did to us Natives. Our governemt are doing to you and everyone the same thing. If we as humans come together in unity Under One God whether or not you believe in God. to stop this crimes dne to us all. We the American people can do it. it is why we have our Constitution and our Declaration of Independence. but we have to come together. let’s seek for our Veteran’s and stop this racism it is not gonna solve our problms it will make things worse. We need to pray more for Humanity and for peace… Thank you

    • Betsy

      Aaron, is it not true that the Indian ‘reservation/nations’
      have their own law, not subject to U.S. law?

      • Aaron

        Betty, Indian Reservations are govern by the US Federal Laws. It is why each reservation was issued the department Beauru Indian Affairs, which back in the 1800′s issued an Indian Agents so the Natives and the US government would maintain the peace. Article 2 section 2 all treaties signed by the US and American Natives are Constitutional Laws and the Supreme Law of the Nation. But til this day no one has changed it. Native Americans have tried to separate from the US but never changeg or used. We believe in the US Constitution the rights of the Individual. It is why Native Americans always served in the Armed Forces. Even though they still get treated the same as now our Veterans do. What is worse is that now everyone is been treated the same it is why there has been so many laws changed tp embolish the
        US Constitutional Rights away.

  • Thom Belesky

    All,

    Americans, en mass, continue to go to the pools and select from those candidates the established political parties present to us. There is little to choose between these candidates. Most have been educated in the same schools. Both Bush Presidents and President & Mrs. Clinton are Yale Graduates. The vast majority of elected officials have liberal educations. America was founded on the principle of hard work. Yes, it is unfair that some children are born to wealthy parents and others, the majority of us, to less well off, probably harder working parents. Yes, it is true that we are all entitled to pursue our own definition of happiness. No, it is not and never has been, not even when Jesus Christ walked the planet, been true that any of us is entitled to have what another may have. That must be earned. There is no Constitutional, or Biblical, guarentee that any of use will achieve success or wealth, regardless of how hard we work. America has become, since the Sixties, a nation of misinformed, “entitlement”, babies! These babies continue to elect the people they believe will bring them, not jobs, but free money. Nothing is free! All of us are paying the price. Our nation is rapidly devolving into a human wasteland. When this immoral, probably illegal Federal Government collapses, the entitlement babies will reap EXACTLY what they have sewn!

  • Justice4All

    This GREAT COUNTRY as well as this world seems ready for the “End Time” with all that has happened and the suspected future. That phrase, “why can’t we just all get along” seems very remote during these frenetic times.
    Through it all we are still the natione of heroes. From our creation to today, God has always blessed our people. What other country has demonstrated an ability to lead the world over and over in futile times. The world depends, (even though they are jealous of our success), on the U.S.A. for guidance. Let’s not let them down!
    Our leaders are an odd bunch for sure, but didn’t we elect them to do specific things? Over the years it seems that arrogance and self enhancement has been the rule of these same people that work for us. Because they do still work for us, at least for now, we must fire them when they are harming our way of life. Too many of these gray beards believe it is their right to mangle the rights of everyone else.
    I do not think we as a nation are stupid, but we certainly have done stupid things. Isn’t it time to wake up from the ether, stop drinking the “kool-aid” and re-start our collective engines to rededicate our lives for GOD and this GREAT COUNTRY. Probably not asking for too much…you think?

    GOD Bless The U.S.A.

  • wayne

    I added this message to the last news letter, but I did not get any of the liberals to answer it. I’ll post it again here this news letter and see what happens:

    Let me ask you liberals, on this forum, who supports Obama’s Socialistic views a question. If you were in school, and you worked really, really hard and you brought your grade up to an A. You know for certain that the kid sitting next to you was goofing off, was not paying any attention, and had not even turned in his assignments. He received a F on his grade. Now! you have a liberal teacher who feels bad for, we’ll call him Little Johnny. She decides to do a polling of the class and sees that you have an A on you grade. She appoaches you and says, I feel bad for little Johnny since he received an F on is grade. Would you mind if I brought you grade down from an A to a B so we can bring Johnnie up from an F to a D to give him a passing grade? I would like to find out from you liberals how many of you would do this for Little Johnnie? Answer by saying, yes, I would, or, No, I would not. After you answer, please explain why you answered the way you did. Maybe this will give the rest of us some insight in the way you really feel.

    • BobbyB

      You probably didn’t get a response because there aren’t any liberals here. While I disagree with many of the far right views, I think affirmative action is the worst thing to come to the US, the ACLU does more harm than good in a lot of cases, and aborting shouldn’t be a blank check for irresponsible sex.

      I’ve been here a few months and don’t see any real liberals and here in lies the problem. The worst thing that came from the Bush era was this ‘You’re with us or against us” thing. People don’t fall in to one of two categories as many are led to believe. MOST humans are far more complex than that. The views of many on this board are very similar. The main difference is deciding who to blame for what. A little research can clear that up quick as long as ones research is not limited to Fox or MSNBC. Search for the middle, there really is one. United we stand, divided we fall~

      • Karolyn

        Thamk you Bobby. When I see some of this people calling liberals trash, scum, etc., it’s like – WTF? Can’t they see that we are all in this together, and we can’t ALL be right. Well, maybe we can all be right in our own minds, but there is NOBODY who REALLY knows what is right.

        • kate8

          Karolyn – We may not exactly know what is true, but I think many of us have a pretty good take on what is right.

          The Left suffers from relativism, so a term like “right” has little meaning.

        • 45caliber

          The reason that some people don’t know what right should be is the reason that we need to focus more on the Bible. Even if you are not a Christian, as many aren’t, the rules set by God to govern the people are good ones to use. (And don’t try to say the Koran is also – not when it advocates killing everyone else.) We, as humans, need a solid basis for right and wrong that doesn’t change from day to day depending upon who has the most money or glamour. The Bible is the best choice and the one on which our country was founded. I’ve not seen any that is better.

        • Bob Wire

          RIGHT! there is not any liberal here Wayne. ~ Restate your question is such a way it can be answered is some inviting way while the answer doesn’t open only more doors to question of uncertainly.

          • Denniso

            I’m a liberal and there are others on here whether they want to be labeled as such or not. Wayne, your little scenario is not worth answering because it doesn’t happen. No one drops the grade of one child in order to bring up another’s grade. If you’re talking about affirmative action that’s not the same thing. White males held essentially all the power and economic clout for most of our history,to the real detriment of women,and minorities. Gov’t decided that the only way to break the cycle that continued the status quo was to actively help women and minorities get into colleges and jobs that had been essentially barred to them. So,some institutions and gov’t jobs were forced to open up a bit to minorities and that meant that slightly fewer white males had the same access they previously had.
            In a perfect world a remedy like that wouldn’t have been neccessary…
            but our world was the result of hundreds of years of discrimination and enslavement that had kept millions of Americans effectively out of the American dream. It’s worked, and more minorities now have equal access to our system than ever before in history. We have women and minorities in positions of power and leadership that would have never happened if we hadn’t done something fairly extreme like affirmative action. People don’t want to change unless they’re forced to. All of society is better for those efforts,much like what we had to go through in desegregating our school systems.

    • Karolyn

      No, I would not. That’s a ridiculous question. Little Johnny needs to be kept back and work harder.

    • 45caliber

      When I was a boy, students could fail. And, if you did fail, you had your parents to contend with. You got your bottom busted, you were grounded (even when 16 and 17), and you found yourself STUDYING! Mom and/or Dad would see to it! You couldn’t expect them to rush down to the school board and insist that your teacher was doing a bad job because everyone accepted that YOU were the one not studying.

      But some parents can’t accept that their Little Johnny isn’t the smartest person alive. Then, they would be laughed at; now they sue to get their way. Unfortunately too many jurists believe that if someone sues they MUST be right and deserve some money. We had some parents locally going to the school board and insisting that their daughter was to get every scholarship and award the school had when she graduated – and she wasn’t even getting straight “A”s like other students were!

      • Denniso

        ‘Little johnny’ needs to be supported and helped w/ his education whatever his intellect is. To think that the answer is to just fail kids and keep them back behind their peer group is simplistic and doesn’t work well either. We shouldn’t think that all kids in a given grade have to learn at the same rate and learn as well as others,otherwise we hold them back. Why can’t a grade accomodate variations in learning,as they do to some degree anyway, and accept that some will not come out as well educated as others? Telling a kid he’s not smart enough to keep up w/ his class is not the way to help the kid stay in school and keep learning.

  • jack

    the drug war has taken our freedoms in one swoop. the constitution has been over ridden. it has accomplished nothing other than make us fear our law enforcement. leglize cannabis it would be a first step to freedom again.

    • Tea Leaf

      Keep on toking up Jack! You are part of the problems in America and all you care about is “If you will be able to get high” without government interference. Like so many liberal thinking “individuals”, you have missed the whole point, you will not be one of those wielding the whips on the rest of us when America collapses. Rather you will be in the same circumstance as all Americans, wallowing in utter chaos brought on by a government bent on destroying us, not saving us. Come up for air some time, sober up and take a look at where america is going.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        You dont need to be a “user” to understand the War on Drugs is an absolute waste of Time effort & Money.
        That said;

        Drug Production and distribution is a Business.
        Drug use is a Choice.

        Drug Business will NEVER be stopped by force, but buy the tactics of how you put a business out of Business. Make Drug production Unprofitable so they will shift their crops to food. Cut its value/prices by over 1000% through decriminalization or legalization.
        The only thing making it profitable is that its illegal, like anything sold on a black market its value is 10X its real value.

        Drug use will naturally diminish as supplies/presence dwindle, and realize that certain people will ALWAYS want to use drugs and that does not make them a criminal. Children will not be targets to “get hooked” because there would be “no profit” in making future customers.

        Why dont we see Food listed as illegal/harmful yet people eat themselvs unhealthy all the time! Look at some of the Overweight people and how their children are overweight! Look at all the overweight people in the hospitals! Thats as Criminal as any drug pusher yet so many people ignore this REALITY! Wake up.

        • Bill

          I can see only one flaw with your suggestion of either legalizing/decriminalizing drugs.What about the effect of addiction and the consequences it will cost society?

  • Ranchman

    “Gather Your Armies!”–Samuel Adams

    Nuff Said

  • FreedomFighter

    abyssus abyssum invocat

    Let them come…

    caelitus mihi vires

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • http://wildblue c derr

    Stop all taxing of AMERICA, gut the EPA,gut the ESA, get rid of all environmental groups, all animal rights activists and restart the industrial machines as they were in the 50`s, 60`s and 70`s. Gather all the military might in this nation to protect the industrial machines and all the AMERICAN workers and within 2 years we will be the envy of the world once again. Also, go after the politicians that are ripping this country apart from within and hang them for treason. It is much more simple than one might think.

    • JC

      Now THERE is a positive approach. I’d add a few more “agencies” to the list though.

    • Tea Leaf

      c derr, I hope personally that our government can be brought back to the people without a violent struggle, if it can not then let the games begin. If America can not be turned around by freedom loving American patriots then we will be doomed to repeat history as another failed nation. Hopefully the present cancer eating America can and will be erraticated. how about? a no party system of government where, what you see is what you get in a politician, who stands for America and what is best for America. Politicians who think for themselves and do not get in line like sheep to the slaughter. Treason against America by Americans must be punished, Regardless of their social or political standing.

  • Another Voice

    So you just now figured this out? LOL!

  • chuckb

    you will never be able to change this government without drastic means.
    we are losing our fight at the voting booth. the liberal faction, the democratic party is now owned by the communist left and the republican party is too busy at the country club. the illegal’s are still pouring into the u.s. and this is the far left vote. each election you see more and more elections almost too close to call. another few years and the conservative vote is gone. we must start a new movement in the country and force the illegals out and register voters with a fraud proof voting card. no more illegal and dead people voting.

    • 45caliber

      Do you realize that the “voter’s card” you are talking about is actually a federal citizen’s ID card?

      The best thing to do would be for all states to go back to requiring a birth certificate or papers showing legal immigration to get a driver’s license – which would then act as the voter’s card ID since it would already be validated as the correct form. Those are issued by states and not the federal government. Further, if anyone is found with a bad license, they get jail – for a long time.

      • Bitter Libertarian

        State Drivers Licence is a federal ID just so you know. Every state has surrendered, by order of GWBush(UN-Patriot Act), Every Drivers licence Number to a federal data base. Nice huh?

        • 45caliber

          That isn’t really the problem. The real problem is that you can get a license in many states simply by walking in and asking for one. You have to take the test – so what? (When I first came to Texas about thiry years ago, my wife and I had to take the test even though we had valid licenses from our last state. We took it cold – no studying – and both of us made in the mid 90′s.)

          What we need is to require that the people applying are actually citizens.

          • Karolyn

            Are you sure qbout that 45? I thought all states required a birth certificate now.

          • Bitter Libertarian

            States surrendering information on US Citizens not a problem? You may want to re-read the US Constitution and tell me exactly where is says thats ok.
            Remember a Licence and a Permit are nearly the same….The Issue is the People running our Govt are running it out of control. If you understood that Gun registration is the first step in Communism, you understand why states giving Drivers Licence info is a Big Fricking deal. Most “Conservatives” are Clouded on true freesdom and have no idea what freedom really is. They are use to “Regulated” freedom and like regulated freedom as long as it does regulate the things they dont like and doesnt regulate the things they do like.

  • mickey

    The main reason that this country is in such sad shape is the CHRISTIANS have retreated from the world and live in a cocoon.Most CHRISTIANS do not even know what they believe. The Bible is not even taught in most of the churches anymore.So called CHRISTIANS have become arrogant they think that they dont sin anymore.So who needs to believe in LORD JESUS anymore.THEY TRY TO EARN THEIR SALVATION. THEY HAVE TRAMPLED HIS BLOOD UNDERNEATH THEIR FEET. As a result of this we will lose our freedom and Christianity will be persecutied.What a shame. CHRISTIANS were to be salt now most are useless.

    • Richard Pawley

      Just remember that many who call themselves Christians may not actually be do. Jesus said “Why do you call yourselves my followers and not do what I say?” We all have our pet doctrines and even our pet churches, and as Dr. George Ritchie pointed out
      ( http://www.near-death.com/ritch.html ) what we would call hell is filled with religious people fighting over doctrines and rules. They are even trying to kill each other but since they are no longer in the physical world they cannot. Check it out, I think you may be fascinated.

    • Bill

      Well put. we have pushed God from our lives, so it is no wonder the Church has got into bed with the world and our conscience is no longer pierced by sin.

  • American Citizen

    Our country is in trouble because those so-called Christians in government do not stick to their values, if they ever had any.

    • Richard Pawley

      Then it is our job to remind them when we see them going astray. We are not to remind sinners or we would have time for nothing else but someone who has invited the spirit of the Living God to come into their spirit, forgive their sins and start over, well, those people need to be reminded so they don’t lose all they have gained. Also many who call themselves Christian just mean they are not Jewish or Muslim or that they have been raised in a church of some sort and they are at best baby Christians. Even St. Paul mentions them in the New Testament.

    • Bert Cundle

      The Christians in Political office, are the Problem; as are the other Religious Loyalist! ( 2 Party System is in self distruct.) Politics is in trouble!

  • KCJohn

    1)Educate the public on civics and the Constitution (no problem with today’s media capabilities. Do it in the private sector at churches in neighborhoods and in clubs. All ages.
    2)There are more of us than them (Conservatives need to vote every two years in the Primaries)
    3)House of Representatives needs to adopt Eric Cantor’s YOU CUT Program (GOOGLE it)
    4)HR-25 needs to be debated on the floor of the House, understood by the public in general then voted in as the law of the land. No more IRS (www.fairtax.org)

    PROBLEMS SOLVED

    • 45caliber

      As for your idea of allowing teaching of the Constitution in churches – there was a couple doing just that some years ago in FL. They were arrested and sent to prison for “harassment of public officials” for doing so.

    • Karolyn

      How do you know “there are more of us than them”?

      • 45caliber

        Polls show that about 40% of Americans are conservative in the full meaning of the word. About 20% of the people are liberals. The rest are considered middle of the road people.

      • Richard Pawley

        Just curious if you saw my long answer to what you wrote the other day at http://www.personalliberty.com/news/study-shows-that-prayer-can-help-relieve-emotional-pain-800313666/?eiid=&rmid=2010_12_31_PLA_PIZ5310E&rrid=238429364

        I warned you that the CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD books you had read were not from God and told you about a proven one, GOD CALLING edited by A. J. Russell that has helped millions who were interested in truth and growing in the spirit. To long to repeat here but God bless you!

        • Karolyn

          Thank you Richard. I just read your long response. I will look into this.

          • Denniso

            WOW! You say that the books ‘conversations w/ God’ aren’t really authentic conversations w/ God? I’m shocked! I have always thought that the title of a book,much like it’s cover,told the whole truth about a book. And to think someone would trick us w/ the title and ‘substance’ in those books to have us believe that he was actually talking to God…outrageous and shocking!
            But do I understand you correctly to say that there is another such book that is ‘real’ and has actual conversations w/ God? Again, WOW!

            I just wonder how we smart readers and thinkers can ever tell the difference between fraudulent talks w/ God and the real ones?

  • Karl

    It’s because the REAL RULERS are not sitting in Congress or the White House they are the private bankers and they meet in secret at Bilderburg, Bohemian Grove, the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commision, Council of the America’s and select whatever fraud “politician” to back as a front boy or girl. President Wilson had no choice but to hand over the nation to these ghouls back in 1913 and he deeply regretted it. The Fed/IRS scam was the final step by the London and European based banksters to control the unruly Americans and they have. Right away Wilson was forced to get us into WW 1, then they launched the Great Depression, in 1933 seized all our gold, created WW 11 and made money playing all sides, Korea, the cold war, the creation of the CIA from the OSS, Vietnam, getting rid of the Irish upstarts the Kennedys, etc. etc. JP Morgan merely bought out the main media long ago to control editorial content and they own the controlling stock of the global corporations. You control all the money, credit, interest rates, gold markets, commodity markets, corporations, energy, and the “government” and you control EVERYTHING. 80% of the American people own vitually nothing with about 20% owning the rest and only the top 1% controlling most. Our private Fed banks are actually owned by Barclays Bank in london now with State Street in Boston owning the second largest chunk while Warren Buffet has his stake in one-Wells Fargo. They operate through NYC, London, and Basel and are outside any laws as the court case exposing Bank of America, Wachovia, Wells Fargo laundering over 387.4 BILLION for the Mexican drug cartels and financing of four large jets for the Colombians showed.(Bloomburg) What happened to them in court? Nothing! Now you know and both main parties are a side show, like football or Hollywood Insider useless for change. As they are globalists it’s already over they aim to tighten control of the entire planet and I imagine they will.

    • Betsy

      Actually, Karl, you are quite correct. Only they want to cap the
      world population somewhere between 4 and 5 Billion, so a couple
      of billion people need to be knocked off according to their desires.
      That is why you are seeing the increased legislation with FOOD SUPPLIES, and you will soon see legislation bringing more people
      ( African/Climate Change Refugees ) into AMERICA.

      It will be enough to change the Constitution of the United States
      the way THEY want.

      • denniso

        You’re paranoid and falling for conspiracy theories too easily. It would be better for the entire planet as well as us humans if the world had a couple billon fewer people,but no one is going to wipe out billions to acheive that. The only way that will ever happen is when more people are educated about the issue and can choose to have fewer children and then the population can reverse slowly. Getting people out of hopeless poverty so they can find more reward in life rather than just producing kids will also be neccessary.

  • Wordwaryor

    Here’s the “Limited Government” We Need to Fix the Problem :

    1. Let Congress be in Washington DC in session from Aug to December each year …. and Home with the Folks the remaining 8 months of the year. (They can operate just as well from home offices with email, webams, Facebook, Twitter, Fax etc. in contact with other Congressmen or Senators) REDUCE the staff in Washington to 2 or 3 staff per Congressman. Take some of the home office staff when in office in Washington (Aug to Dec) to “Beef Up”. Legislators no longer need Washington Homes or Apartments !!

    Can you imagine how much harder your made the jobs of Washington lobbyists ?

    THIS TAKES THE POWER OUT OF WASHINGTON DC … for 8 months a year.

    2. Review ALL government programs (especially entitlement programs). Phase out or Eliminate those programs that are not Constitutional… or which are no longer needed.

    3. Reduce the number of government cabinet departments… down to 5 or at most 7.

    I would suggest the 5 Departments be :

    Defence
    Interior
    Justice
    Commerce
    Energy

    Place CIA, Homeland Security, ICE etc under Dept of Defence
    Place EPA etc under Interior or under Energy Dept.
    Place FBI under Justice
    Place SEC etc under Commerce

    Eliminate HHS and Dept of Education …. Return these “Services” to the Sates to control.

    Let the Dept of Defence control the Borders… and charge them with stopping Illegal immigration.

    Shrink the SIZE of government …. elminating a 100,000 or more government jobs in Washington…. bring some of those jobs home to the states where legislators will be working 8 months out of the year.

    NOW THAT’s the type of Federaal Government Actually Designed and Envisioned by the Constitution !! And by our Founders !!

  • Pete NY “R I P FEDERAL RESERVE BANK”

    @ HFlashman: Doing away with the Federal Res. Bk. is not an insane strategy. We do it so the Federal Govt. no longer can operate malicious programs like the TSA and foreign aid to the vulgar United Nations. That will not destroy the economy. If this is done in a calculated and methodical manner, it will work. The Feds will resist like hell, but one step at a time we can destroy the fascist progressive lawyers who seek total control. It sounds simplistic right now but I am trying to be succinct.

  • Pete NY “R I P FEDERAL RESERVE BANK”

    Voting strategy: Worst case scenario, one US State must seceed from the Union. this is a test case for America. I myself would leave New York to vote for secession in the selected State. I hope millions of my fellow libertarians would join me. Will it be the Alamo all over again? God only knows. But in the final analysis there must be a stand against the monster. I would rather die than live in this fascist etc etc.

  • http://www.personalliberty.com Marie Stroud

    If most of the presidents are related and there are many sites with “Roots of The Presidents”, does it not seem strange that only family members are picked to run in most cases? Found an article stating that Bush, Obama and Hinckley are related. Hinckley like in Ronald Reagan?
    Yes the Bible does tell us of much which is to come and some of it is happening now.
    There are many good people on earth who want peace and justice but the money and power addiction of our World leaders will over power any good.
    Where there is money and power, honesty, fairness and straightforwardness is out of the window. Remember for those who know Scripture, Satan rules for the moment and because he rules guess who he installs as leaders. Those who will do his bidding.

  • http://joyfullsong@roadrunner.com Carol

    Too many people believe that someone else will save them and do not take the time to find out what is really going on and why those in power are doing what they are doing.
    They vote because someone speaks well, is good looking, or their friends tell them to vote for that candidate.
    As long as the majority of citizens of this country do not take an interest in what is really happening then it will be the same old same old.
    PAY ATTENTION, READ, BE INFORMED! This is what will save this country.

  • http://www.h3tec.com Charles

    We have to be self reliant. Everyone needs to be ready for what ever comes our way, and I don’t think any good will be offered. We need to take our country back, it is ours, it ISN’T THEIRS.. Remember We are the people, and this is our country.. every square inch of it. Come on Americans.. Be very informed and make sure you know what the truth is. It’s so convoluted with corruption and making sure we are all against each other. We will unite with purpose and our country will once again be ours.

  • Al

    It is not that we need a new Foundation. What we need is to return to the Old Foundation that was built to last Forever. What is going on now is an attempt to build a new foundation on a sinkhole and it is gobbling up our country rapidly. The new foundation is one of immorality,corruption, greed and a total departure from what made America Great in the 1st place. That in a nutshell is the eyeopener that America needs. Congress in particular needs to re-open their eyes to the destruction they and the Courts of our Land are laying upon us. It appears many congreesmen and judges are going to very poorly qualified physichiatrists (intentionally mispelled).

    • Richard Pawley

      “What we need is to return to the Old Foundation that was built to last Forever. What is going on now is an attempt to build a new foundation on a sinkhole and it is gobbling up our country rapidly. The new foundation is one of immorality, corruption, greed and a total departure from what made America Great in the 1st place.”
      Can’t disagree with that! What is sad is that the alternative is so drastic if we don’t keep our representatives in line. Some of them think they are Barons and Baronesses. Those who don’t shape up this next 23 months, begin now to see that they get sent home. Rome wasn’t built in a day and neither was this country. Many of them don’t know what many readers here know. They are lawyers who never held a job or ran a business. They have no belief in the God of our founding fathers so they have no belief in our country or even in themselves. We can, if we are persistent and patient, turn them from the dark side, or we can replace them at the next election. What we can’t do is just elect someone and let them do what they think is best. That seldom works. Freedom isn’t free, and many are just waking up to that fact. No, is not the time to give up but to work harder, but at the same time, it’s time to do what we can to prepare for the hard times ahead.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    Think you can “Fix” our Govt peacefully? I hope I am wrong but I personally doubt it.

    http://patriotupdate.com/1077/look-who-wants-500-bump-in-funding-for-government-media

    This sort of “stuff” needs to stop, and the only way is to start with ridding the nation of 75% of its lawyers, 100% of its Politicians. By “ridding” I mean “branded ” to never hold any position of power again in any way shape or form.

  • chuckb

    repeal the voter motor registration law, the first bill signed by bill clinton when he first took office. this has amounted to millions of illegals getting registered to vote.
    jc:
    either make them prove citizenship when applying for their drivers license or issue a fraud proof card, either way this should be on the new congressional agenda.

  • http://ActionAmerica.org John Gaver

    There’s another sign of a collapsing government, that many politicians and the media are missing (maybe intentionally). One of the strongest signs of a collapsing government, is when the people with the most to lose and who have the have sufficient knowledge and professional guidance to be able to evaluate their financial risk, start leaving the country. Those people, by the way, are the wealthy and they’re leaving at a tremendously alarming rate.

    Zogby International conducted seven polls, between 2005 and 2007, where respondents were asked, among other things, if they had considered or would ever consider “relocating” to another country. They were specifically looking for those who would actually relocate, rather than just move temporarily to another country, as I did to England, a few years ago. They also eliminated any household, where any family member had ever been sent to work in another country, either by his company or the government (for other than military deployment). That exclusion means that they excluded those who would naturally be the most likely to consider moving permanently or even semi-permanently to another country. They were trying to get a view of that part of the population that was not already accustomed to living in other countries.

    Even after eliminating those most likely to relocate offshore, they stated, “1.6 million U.S. households had already determined to relocate abroad; an additional 1.8 million households were seriously considering such a move, while 7.7 million more were somewhat seriously contemplating it.” They concluded that “by a modest estimate”, at least 3 million U.S. citizens are relocating outside the USA every year.

    So ask yourself, “How many of that 3 million US expatriates, who are leaving every year, are poor?” Think about it… The poor can’t afford to pick up and move to another country. I would conservatively estimate that at least 80% of those who are leaving are in the top 5% of income earners (income over $160k per year) – those who have the most to lose. That top 5%, by the way, pays almost 60% of the taxes actually collected each year, by the IRS. Actually, I put the number much higher than 80%, but I’m really trying to bias my estimate to the lowest number possible, so to show how bad it is, when you intentionally try to make the numbers look better than they really are. Use your own estimate and think about how bad it probably really is.

    But using that low 80% estimate, if 2.4 million wealthy Americans are leaving every year, what does that tell you? Remember that these are the people with the most to loose and the wherewithal to accurately evaluate their risk of losing it. The average person sees this government grasping at ever more power and placing ever more restrictions on our rights, as citizens and they feel a sense of foreboding in their gut. But those with any significant degree of wealth have the wherewithal to pay for the professional guidance to evaluate that risk. While ordinary people only feel an abstract assault on our rights and finances, before that assault materializes, the wealthy can afford to go beyond the abstract and actually place a number on their risk.

    That’s why we’re seeing more than 3 million mostly wealthy US citizens relocate outside the USA every year and that expatriation rate bodes ill for the USA, more than any other single indicator imaginable. You see, besides telling us about what risk they’ve seen, this effective forced expatriation of the wealthy poses real threat, on its own. That’s because, THEY are the people who pay the lion’s share of the taxes. If we loose just the top 1% of income earners, those who remain will have to pay an additional 50% in taxes, just for the USA to stay even.

    Of course, this kind of rush to expatriate has been seen many times in the past, before either a government collapses or a government imposes marshall law. Think of the wealthy Jews leaving Nazi Germany, before the war. Think of the wealthy Afrikaners (both white and black) fleeing Apartheid South Africa. When things get bad, the wealthy are the first to leave. If the public fails to pay attention to this flight, then the wealthy may also be the last to leave. Think about it.

    • Richard Pawley

      I interviewed a number of people for my autobiography (LEAVING SOUTH CAROLINA, 2006, but recently updated) and I found that 6 out of 7 that I talked with the previous year told me they were leaving because of what the country was doing to the money, in other words the economy, the others said they were leaving because of the breakdown of morality. I used to receive emails from some very rich but they too have apparently left. New York State lost 1.7 million people in the past decade. The unions rule with a heavy hand here and in just one county of less than 400,000 people there are 14 superintendents of education, several of whom make more money than over a dozen governors, one of whom makes more money than the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, and one who actually has a bigger salary (paid for by taxes from homeowners), then Ben Bernanke of the FEDERAL RESERVE BANK, and now I’m hearing that the Republicans want to join the Democrats and bailout the states like NY who are tens of billions in the hole and California who are dozens of billions in the hole. The spending junkies will never ‘get religion and see the light’ if the government keeps supporting their ‘habit’! We gave the banks billions, no TRILLIONS not to cause another depression but all they did was keep it and kick the ball down the road. Five years ago I called what is coming “The Greater Depression” and it may still be called that if it isn’t called the Collapse of the World Economy, led by George Soros and those who want to replace the USA on the world scene. I don’t know the answers to all this but I do know that we don’t have a lot of time. We have one last chance to clean up Washington or we join the other former empires who just kept printing money and went out of existence (and we are, even now, creating 70,000 MILLION DOLLARS every month out of thin air). Keep up with what your senator is doing and let them know we can’t afford any more destruction of the dollar with their insane spending. The 111th Congress spent more ($3.15 TRILLON dollars) than the first 100 congresses. We ARE going to get hit with the most hidden tax of all, inflation, and I have no doubt that food and fuel and all we really use is going to at least triple! Some believe within 24 months but so much is going on I just don’t know. I believe that some of that 70,000 MILLION a month that is being created out of thin air is going into the stock market to keep it up and one source has said that for every CEO buying his stocks, 1,600 are selling. Some of the money is going into gold and gold stock, and some is going into non-perishable food and other commodities. Cotton is at a 15 year high and for the five year in a row, demand has exceeded supply. Well, soon I am going to have to greatly reduce what I write here. I don’t think I’m helping enough people to warrant my time. A few wrote me that they got out of stocks because of my warnings in my autobiography (which I wrote to pass on what I’d learned in life about everything and in one 25 page chapter I even suggested buying gold at $600 an ounce as a no-brainer) but we are in for some unbelievable changes. The Socialists are convinced their death dealing health care plan is what is good for us no matter how much it costs and I think we may not have a lot of time left. I just don’t know but it would be very foolish to wait and see how long it takes to bring about that big inflation the FED is trhyng to create so their derivative investments will be profitable (OK, not the FED but those who own the FED). May God help us because no one else is going to do so.

  • http://www.TomBlairEA.com Thomas Avery Blair EA

    I’m sorry, but I honestly no longer have faith in the “ballot box” anymore in the USA. I have no idea what must happen next to arrouse the ire of enough American patriots to put our nation back into the parameters outlined in the U S Constitution.
    .
    Look at the behavior of the congress in their recent lame duck actions, where even the Republican minority didn’t stand and oppose passage of the “back-room-groomed” deals were done and accomplished outside the U S Constitutions’ separation of powers of the House, the Senate and the Executive and Judiciasl branches of government.
    .
    I am truly afraid that we already waited too long and took action too late. Our government in combination with corporate America on the whole have formed a nearly-iron-clad grip on our society and formed a socialist “oligarchy” where the individual citizen will find no place in the decision making processes…where everything will be “smoke and mirrors” half-truths from government and 95% of all Americans will reluctantly return to the serfdom status similar to those of the so-called “dark ages” of Europe.
    .
    I am 63 years of age. I hope I do not live to see the utter collapse of this nation I love that has been and is being destroyed in the near-demonic efforts of power and greed in government, banking and Wall Street malcreants.
    .
    Perhaps this will be my last blog…I guess all I can really do now is to wait and see what happens next and try to live with it just as long as I can…probably just as you will also.
    .
    Respectfully submitted to true God-fearing Americans

    Thomas Avery Blair, EA

    • Richard Pawley

      Nations come and go, and even civilizations do the same but God is still in control. If enough believing people will pray for His will to be done, you will see change for the better. However, remember that even His Chosen People in ancient times had to be led into captivity in Babylon for 80 years to teach them a lesson. “If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray, and seek me, I will hear from Heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land,” He said long ago. It’s still true but the praying part is up to us. Don’t give up yet, but do prepare for hard times ahead and you will be better off than those who think that God is the State, and the State is God.

      • http://none Mike

        Richard, That is the most sence I have seen made about the prayer issue in a while.We need to humble ourselves and pray for the right things. Prayer for selfish reasons arent allways answerd. Prayrs for help,peace, and understanding in our own lives are almost allways answerd.I have see that work in my own life if you know what I am saying. I once was an addict to gambling. I was spiraling out of control but when I asked for help the help was amazing. Maby even miraclous. I have seen devout men pray for the healing of others and seen that answerd as well. Not the false witness of prayer for profit we see on our TV’S evey day. Mike L.

        • denniso

          One of the fundamental problems we have as a country and for the world is that billions of people,some even educated, actually think that if they just pray in the correct way to whatever god they believe in then things will get better. If that worked at all, then after thousands of yrs of prayer by billions of people around the world we would expect to see a little improvement, instead of what most people see as a slow and steady slide downhill. Why is that? The only logical answer at all is that prayer does no good in the least. And, all the energy,hope and time put into prayer is counterproductive because it detracts from the real and hard work and thought it takes to improve society and countries.

          • http://none Mike

            denniso, Prayer in your own life. Is what best describes prayer for the right things. We were given free will. And the responsability of what that entails. When we pray for abstracts i.e goverment land and country.Gods response might be ok but how about you work to change that. When we pray for personal guidence, peace in our own lives, healing of ourselves and others and help with things in our lives that have gotten out of control. We find these prayers are most often answerd. Prayers for selfish reasons are either ignored or paid with a form of repramand. This is why most of the world today says prayer dosent work. Mike L.

          • Denniso

            Mike…thanks for the civil reply,I was ready for an inflammatory one.If people want to pray or do anything for their own purposes and it helps them cope w/ a tough life and world I have no problem w/ that. It’s when religious people of any type want to claim that prayer can solve the world’s problems and heal the sick if they just pray correctly that I get annoyed a bit. There are many things that people can do to lend comfort and calm to their life,and sure, prayer can do it just as meditation and other things can. There is the well known placebo effect that originates in the human mind and can help w/ some illness to some degree. But there have been millions of good Christians struck w/ a deadly form of cancer or another disease who pray their hearts out w/ absolutely no effect,accept to maybe make them feel better. They die just like most others w/ the same disease.
            Parents pray all over the world for their children to not die from a disease or accident or war, and they die as well. Prayer has no power to cure or heal uncurable disease or injury. Some cancers are misdiagnosed as fatal or the body sometimes can fight it off and some cancers go into remission on their own. I’m glad when I hear of such events,but they are rare.

          • http://none Mike

            denniso, The power of the mind is much stronger than you think. Prayer is a way to unleash that power. Its the spark of divinity in all of us. Thats why some groups are so powerful at changeing things peacefully. The Tibetin monks are a prime example of this.

            Fundementlist of all stripes certinaly shut this power off. The result is a vocal and physical response. They attack what they dont understand.Mike L.

  • http://kibitzer-truthseeker.blogspot.com Stan

    The biggest Ponzi scheme there is is the western monetary system with its basis on money as debt. We need to eliminate that block to a wholistic, cooperative way of life, wherein and whereby we exchange goods and services with, and give of our best to, one another out of a higher motive than the ‘profit’ motive – out of the highest motive: out of gratitude to our Creator for life with meaning.

    This will not come about in America – the wayshower unto the nations – through the two-party system as it stands. That system has been co-opted at its top by people drunk with power, and by the whiff thereof. The country will be saved by the likes of the Transpartisan Alliance, whereby both the ‘right’ and the ‘left’ can come together, and reason together. The Powers That Be are busily trying to install their New World Order, with a One World government designed to make the world safe for corporatism. That is a step up the historical socio-political ladder. It’s time to co-opt that stage of thinking, for Spirit to flow through the process more clearly, and establish a kingdom on Earth the likes of which humanity has never seen, but has felt, dimly, at the edge of its consciousness, as a possibility.

    The time for that possibility has come.

    So come, let us reason together. And not to worry about the ‘religious’ thing. Spirit will whisper where it will. And that’s how individuals will be able to tell the difference between that which is of God and that which is of Man.

    A critical mass. That is all that is needed, for humanity to move into the New. Just a nudge. Because we’re right on the edge. Of going down. Or up.

    Which is it to be, Citizen?

  • DaveH

    Homework assignment (a pleasureful one):
    Go see the movie “Tangled”. See if Mother Gothel doesn’t remind you of the Federal Government.

  • Raggs

    Simple solution..

    They want death panels .. so be it lets start with the congress!

    • Bob Wire

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc4HxPxNrZ0

      you think? Everybody wants to go to heaven and nobody wants to die!

      Who are we left to trust? Corporate America that’s 100% profit driven

      or Government?

      I trust none equally and have my own plans for checking out.

      Tell me of anyone that might like the choices!

      • DaveH

        There’s a big difference. One has the power of force. The other doesn’t.

        • Denniso

          Because mostly Republicans have thwarted all attempts at lessening the impact of big money in our political system,big biz and corporate power brokers have essentially bought a large chunk of control of our gov’t. That’s how corporations have garnered power over the people. They fund politicians and lobby hard to get the gov’t to do their bidding and that results in laws and policy being passed that are not often in the people’s interest.

          One simple example…we have largely privatized our prison system and now one large corporation contracts w/ the various gov’ts to imprison criminals,and it’s become big business. The private prison industry now lobbies and elects politicians who favor more stringent laws and longer incarceration,all w/ their monetary interest in mind. Most of the country wants to decriminalize pot,but of course the prison industry sees big money in keeping the statu quo continuing.

          DaveH and others want us to believe that gov’t is the problem and the boogey man,and that ‘private enterprise’ is wholly innocent and no different than us. That’s so naive and simplistic and ignores what large corporations have been doing for generations in getting control
          of our gov’t to use it to direct public policy and control what we people can and can’t do.

  • NoCAGal

    WE NEED TO STOP CODEX! NO ANDS, IFS OR BUTS ABOUT IT!

  • Claire

    GO PACKERS!!!

    • libertytrain

      thank you Claire :)

      • Claire

        We always support the Packers and you know why!! Hooray Wisconsin–One of the best states in the USA! I sure remember the Vince Lombardi days-they were wonderful! I want them to beat the Eagles soooo bad and you know why!!!

        • JeffH

          Go Packers. QB, Aaron Rogers is a California guy…gotta root for him, but I still love my Raiders.

        • libertytrain

          yep those Lombardi days were fine days.

  • Claire

    Wonder why 5,000 redwing blackbirds died and fell from the sky? Wonder why thousands and thousands of dead fish washed ashore? If they do any necropsies I wonder if we will be told the truth? And I mean the real truth? I trust no one in government, state, federal or local. Perhaps “Farewell America” is going on in more ways than one. Sorry folks, but I have heard that chemicals, etc. are put in the air we breathe. I have heard this for a number of years. I may sound like I’m “losing it” but this is what I have always heard.

    • jeanelane

      Claire, I think you are so right. I think there are too many things going on. There is one huge agenda that someone has that we will never be able to fight.
      home boy is also right.
      Voting? KAOS says a lot that I also think is true.
      If I get sick, I’ll die. To heck with the medical ‘profession’ Whenever I have needed allopathic medicine, they fail me.
      The articles on this website are good, but I too feel like whomever is in charge has beaten me down. I can’t fight everything. I don’t have the time.

    • libertytrain

      Claire, I would like to hear more about this if they tell us more. On an aside, I am in Orange Beach Alabama, on the Gulf for a couple days. Interesting, still no fresh seafood available here. It comes from other places but no fishing yet here. Thanks BP and the obama man.

      • Claire

        libertytrain–You have that right. We have a sea food company here in town, lobsters from Maine, etc. but nothing from the Gulf area.
        Also my favorite grocery store only carries seafood from Thailand, China, etc. Before Christmas I was looking at pre-packaged vegetable trays–I turned one upside down and guess what–it came from Guatemala! I went to Farmers Market and got my fresh vegatables and made my own tray. I should have gone there in the first place. Enjoy yourself!

        • JeffH

          Hi Claire…Happy New Year! I’ve discovered an online market from Louisiana and made a big purchase before Christmas. It’s called Cajun Grocer and they do have Crawfish and Shrimp from Louisiana and guaranteed straight from Louisiana gulf waters.

          http://www.cajungrocer.com/fresh-foods-gulf-shrimp-c-1_15_35.html

          • libertytrain

            jeff – claire – there are several locations with tents, ambulances and large amounts of workers. We couldn’t figure it out till early this morn, along all the beach areas, and we checked out a few, are probably hundreds of workers still filtering out tar chunks. I had no idea this was going on still to the extent it’s going on. I’m not sure who is paying for it, the person we asked who said he himself was an “independent contractor” didn’t seem to want to say, it involves state, federal, fish and game, people from Alaska, unbelievable. We don’t ever hear about this in the rest of the country anymore – like it’s done and over. It’s not. I’m stunned.

      • Bill

        Libertytrain,

        Did you have a chance to catch Conspiracy Theory Program and the expose on why the BP spill was allowed to happen?

        • kate8

          And then there is this:

          http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread59987/pg1

          A couple of years ago, notice was posted in newspapers out west that the military intended to conduct biochemical experiments over CA, OR, and WA. They stated their intent to sacrifice millions in marine life, and land life, as well. Including humans, although they only stated that this would be studied. DUH.

          There are actual documents authorizing the military to conduct such “experiments” on US population, and they do, routinely.

          Since that notice came out, the chemtrail spraying increased here heavily, to the point where we seldom see the sun anymore (in a typically always sunny sky), a dramatic reduction of birds and bees, failing crops and increased sickness among pets and people.

          This is real, whether anyone wants to believe it or not, and has been going on under the radar for nearly a century.

          And don’t stop with this one. There is other info on the net.

        • libertytrain

          I did not, but will look into it more when I’m back home. It is definitely a scam of some sort.

    • kate8

      Claire – This came into my inbox today, re: the red-wing blackbirds:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ5TVipuB10

  • home boy

    what did you expect when you have satan in control. read 1john 5;19

  • KAOS

    I do not know what everybody is complaining about. The world is made up of sheep and sheep follow sheep. Where are all the true leaders who actually care about human beings? Everything corporate, wall street or government do is in the gray area and led on a basis of fear. Fear is the most damaging component to make us all behave and do what they ask. This will never change, I repeat NEVER CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!! until God decides to rescue his people from this situation and take back his Kingdom and until that happens I will continue to NOT VOTE, keep myself healthy so as not to support BIG PHARMA and manage to survive until GOD has control again. Satan’s time is about over and he knows it so he is causing as much desctruction as possible before God throws him in the abyss forever. Keep the FAITH and LOVE and all will turn out okay with GOD at the wheel.

  • http://Verizon Bud G.

    Claire: Congratulations on the Packer’s.

    My book is doing very well. Just wanted to let you know. I did not think it would turn into so much work after it was published. I am now thinking I should have said no to my brother-in-law who encouraged me to write the book.

    • Claire

      Bud G– I have your book. I have not strted reading it yet. Too much going on. I will let you know when I have read it. Yes, it is almost like a whirlwind, isn’t it!! I am very happy to hear it is doing well. Perhaps a movie to be made???!!! Congratulations!

      Regarding the Packers–they play the Eagles in an upcoming game. Sure hope the Packers win.

      • Claire

        “started”

      • Karolyn

        Me too, Claire. As a lifetime NJ Giants fan, with the Eagles as our arch-rival, I will be rooting for the Packers.

  • Void1972

    100,000 dead fish and 5,000 dead birds in Arkansas. Our Government in spraying us like roaches, and we continue to go on like nothing is happening!
    Go to youtube or google and watch “what in the world are they spraying”. This should be an eye opener to all.
    Time to fight the insanity!
    God bless America, and those who fight for her!

    • http://none Mike

      Void, Though I agree somewhat about what they are doing. These 2 were natural occurances. The birds in necropsy were shown to have died from physical trama. There was a major hailstorm in the area when they were killed. The fish were all of one species so the poision would have been pretty specific. I suspect they will find gill mites were the culprate in that one. Drum are really suscpetable to thoes. Its happened here in Tennessee before to that same fish. Mike L.

      • Karolyn

        The birds that fell in Arkansas fell on a clear night. It was New Year’s eve, and they’re thinking the fireworks had something to do with it.

        • Denniso

          Good old fireworks,about 10 billion $$ a year wasted in a puff of smoke,millions of animals terrified,old people and babies bothered and unable to sleep, some of the celebraters burned and blown up,and now blowing innocent birds out of the air. Disgusting and mindless…

          • libertytrain

            Actually they aren’t thinking that any longer. Fireworks happen oftentimes throughout the year everywhere. How many times have you heard of this happening. I personally haven’t. Why would this one group of fireworks be different? Illogical.

          • Denniso

            Fire works are still a big freaking waste and blight on society and the earth. They release toxic chemicals into the air and water and bother millions of people and animals everytime they are used. They represent warfare and have no productive purpose at all. People might as well roll up $20 bills and set them on fire…not to mention the injuries and deaths every yr from using them as well as during their manufacture.

          • libertytrain

            ok – a valid opinion on fireworks.

  • Titus

    It seems to me that America is the new Soviet Russia. One thing they have in common is that they are both ruled by a Zionist cabal. I was thinking of coming to the US (I’m an Ausie)for the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally, but now I’m not sure. Especially with the notorious TSA, waiting to stick it’s finger up my ass at LAX!

    • http://none Mike

      Titus, I think if that happens you might have a few bikers rideing back with you to go see said TSA agent lol. Please come and enjoy what we as a people have to offer and not let our goverment put you off. I have a feeling our goverment is what is so offputting about us to the rest of the world. Mike L. P.s Drop by Tennessee while your here we have some of the best mountian rideing in the states. The Dragon U.S 101. The applachin trail and the Blue Ridge Pky to name a few. Mike L.

  • Robert

    The article seems a little out there, if you know what I mean. Anyway, not to worry. That why God created bullets.

  • Patty Erickson

    Vitamin D is free, just go out in the sun without heavy sunblock. Our grandparents did it, we did it as kids. We get all freaked out when people talk about what the government is going to take away but forget not long ago people didn’t have it anyway and were healthier. Cancer is on the increase despite all the drugs and doctors more people are getting and dying from cancer! The answer isn’t walking up to the door and kicking ass. It’s not wanting everything you see on tv, and wanting it now so you use a credit card. WE are responsible for the mess we are in because WE forgot what our grandparents taught us. Save up food for the winter you don’t know how bad it will be. If you don’t have the money you can’t buy it. I am not the car I drive, My house is big enough to house my family comfortably. I eat REAL foods grown locally and right in my back yard because I KNOW HOW. We need to quietly back away from the bullshit they are craming down our throats. Teach our kids that they don’t deserve a car, a phone, money, and the ability to be stupid just because everyone else is doing it! Everything you need you should be able to provid yourself, and have a group of people, your family that can rely on you, and you on them. Be respectful, seek out others who feel the same. Vote with your wallet, get out of debt, and fade back. The talk to your neighbors and like minded people and beat the grass slowly and loudly. WE are Americans. WE have to talk with one voice and stick together but we have to stop being so stupid! And turn off the friggen tv if all you’re watching is celebrity bullshit! They want us dumb and fat and so far the majority have complied!!!

    • http://none Mike

      Patty, Well said. Mike L.

      • Patty Erickson

        Thanks Mike! I think we are all caught up in the blame game, but we got lazy. Things got too easy and we outsourced our lives, our jobs and our brains and now that we are going to loose our remaining freedom we wake up! I hope it’s not too late because our youth just wants to text and sext and look as scanky as possible. And no one wants to get their hands dirty and admit we willingly handed it over. Stop buying crap you don’t need and support real products. Don’t be fat, lazy, and uninformed, but don’t get hysterical. If you run around doing bible quotes and talking about kicking down the door they say you’re a terrorist and your screwed. Our forefathers were smart WE have to be smart and stop running from one new thing to the next and get on a steady path that makes sense and roll through steady and surely and don’t be pushed around and stop having the attention span of a gnat! It is critical at this time in our history that we think rationally and not buy into fear tactics but question with great consideration who is trying to get our attention and why.

        • http://none Mike

          Patty, Our youth have been trained very well by our public schools. And by the popular culture of anything goes. No morals no work ethic no brains. When I was in school in the 70′s and 80′s teen pregnancy was 1 in 100′s. Now its a badge of honor to be pregnant before the 12th grade.Not only that if you are trying to learn and get to collage you are looked down upon for being a conformist. Or in the case of if your black you are trying to look white.

          As for the bible quotes the ones I try to use is where Jesus is trying to show us what is a moral way to live. Some here wouldent belive it if you showed them that some of the hardest battles Jesus fought were with established religons at the time. But we take the bible out of context and try to use just one or 2 passages to support this or that doctorin. Me I dont think I would have liked to live under the old testement law. And that was what he came here to free us from as much as anything else.

          Revloution will come.But I am sincerly hopeing not at the point of a gun. Hopefully it will come with reasond educated adults getting elected into office.Hopefully the new people we have elected into office will be just what they promised they would be. But it is our duty to be vigilent and see that they do.Also the voting process needs some citizen reforms and oversight.Mike L.

          • Karolyn

            You can’t blame it all on the schools. Parents have been, and are, the problem. I have no kids but have seen how many have been raised. Their parents, having been raised without a lot, spoiled their kids and ruined them. Now they are doing even worse with their kids. I’m just so glad I was raised in the 50s and 60s. I would not want to be a kid today!

          • Denniso

            Most schools and teachers are busting their butts trying to do a very difficult job. They have to compete against all the pop culture crap for the kids attention…video games,internet junk,facebook,lousy and destructive ‘music’,poverty for 20% of the kids, and ongoing budget problems. I’ve met and known many teachers and they are the most dedicated Americans in the country. They are the only hope for our country and we too often treat them w/ scorn,disrespect and relative poverty.
            Our society holds up as heros and gods people like Warren Buffet,Bill Gates,Sara Palin,when the real heros are the teachers of our children.

  • JeffH

    This is a great interview…
    Steve Malzberg Interviews Jeff Kuhner – If The Truth Got Out About Obama…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWuM0tzrOYs

    • wayne

      Wow! this is a very strong interview. What about that old adage, where there is smoke, there is fire.

    • wayne

      This reply is to Karolyn since she does not have a reply under her message. Karolyn, this is one time I have to agree with you. I have always heard that a child’s image through life is formed within the first five years. I agree with you 100%. I have always felt that a child that has a good father and mother, that has raised their chldren with love, not hate, will grow up to become a decent person. There may be some exceptions here, but very little. Take pit bull dogs, some are very friendly, and some are raised to be mean. It is the way the are raised.

  • UnpopedKernels

    More true words have never been spoken by Mr. Bob. I particular, the involvement of the local police in these matters is the worse problem. Used to be the local police stayed local for the most part in most places. Now, even just for a little publicity, the locals jump on the latest fad and enjoy enforcement of the associated statutes. Most cities no longer allow burning of leaves or just any old repairman working on a house while crack sales, untaxed at that, carry on at record levels. Harass and tax the responsible; exploit and enslave the irresponsible is government’s aim.

    • http://none Mike

      Unpoped, There is very little money to be made for them to stop crack sales. Notice how its allways the user or small pusher that gets busted. While most of the ring-leaders walk arond like they own the place? Its because they do in most places anymore. Or the fact they out man and out shoot the police in large cities. Mike L.

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        I used to live in a river front community on Lake Erie. Every summer this guy would tie his cabin cruiser outside a river front bar and sell drugs. One evening I was standing with a city cop friend on a nearby bridge watching this criminal do his deals. I asked the cop why they allowed this to go on and yet gave out DUIs like they were band aids ? He told me that it would cost the town considerable monies to arrest and prosecute the drug dealer while the recipient of the DUI was a slam dunk. It’s all about the money.

        • UnpopedKernals

          Thanks Mike and gunner689. We all are in total agreement on the drug sales. The trade is dollar huge and not taxed directly at all.

  • Effin Reed Tard

    I use to watch Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers on TV ! It was fun to watch. All those sci-fi shows had a better way – the hi-technology way of life !

    But then again we see some things should just be left alone, like growing food and farming ….. at least until we get the smarts to do it right. Them companies like Monsanto just want to take our money and give us an inferior product … and they replaced “smarts” with lobbyist and crony capitalism. Shame on you people !

    I’m nearly 50 years old and I suck at Math ! Well, I’m gonna fix that and get into this hi-tech stuff ! I figger if I can build an army of female android robotic terminators using nanotechnology (like on Star Gate Atlantis sci-fi program) I won’t have to worry about nothing !

    I’m just having a hard time talking my wife into it. I told her I would make them all look like her ! And maybe one or two look like Angelina Jolie and Scarlett Johansen …

    So I’m reading this math/computer book on “Java” and “APL” and another on Electronics …. I figger it’ll take me like 3 to 4 years to get them android fembots built …

    • Karolyn

      Don’t you need some manbots to go with those fembots?

  • WarriorSpirit

    Nine years ago, somehow, inexplicably I sensed that we were primed for another Pearl Harbor. Three months after printed in the local Newspaper’s Letter to the Editor 9-11 happened. I had SEVERAL similar revelations and wrote of them & sent them to several Newspapers. Many made their ways to print.
    As such, with this being said, I found Dr. Laibow & first learned of Codex Alimentarius well over a year ago. TOO MANY AMERICANS ARE TOTALLY IGNORANT TO WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE PASSAGE OF S-510. It IS Codex Alimentarius and STILL far too many people are totally unaware, including the 74 Govt Officials that voted yeah for S510.
    Last night I went through the actual vote on this Bill. I saw for myself how much each voter was PAID AND BY WHOM. I have it on record! America has sold us out! Govt is much too large & is THE TERROR WITHIN! I once again ask ALL AMERICANS – how long are we going to remain complacent? Time for talk to stop and Action to begin!
    I am NOT advocating violence yet we are dealing with corruption & Treason. US Constitution Art 110, Sec 3 – Treason punishable by DEATH BY HANGING!
    If you are unaware of HAARP, Gwen Towers, ELF waves, soft-kill weaponry and Executive Orders I suggest you research these things NOW. Verified articles cannot be deemed conspiracies. We are PAST the tipping point and if we do not become involved and pro active NOW, I assure you we are in a death spiral as a Nation. Time to WAKE UP NOW!

  • WarriorSpirit

    I hereby am calling all Americans out. It’s time for “change” alright, in a BIG way. There are way too many backoom, closed door deals being made – votes being bought.
    Far too long we lay around in compacency. It’s TIME to assemble and march on Washington. Note how the Brits were enraged to the point of rioting in the streets over raising college tuition. Looks like they have more guts than we do. Govt “takeovers” of banking, housing, the automobile Industry and lately, Health Care with talk of Death panels! WTH is wrong with you people? What will it take for everyone to stand up and demand accountability and transparency. America IS the global Bully and many people hate us because they see us as the invaders. The time for all this madness to stop has come – NOW!

    • Karolyn

      The rioting in the streets in Britain was by students. Apparently, students in this country are not as politically-minded as those in the 70s. They’ve been raised by those former students and their children to be spoiled brats. Any outrage in this country is in the older range of people, many baby-boomers, who are just not that into taking to the streets.

    • Bert Cundle

      MARCH ON WASHINGTON? THAY DID THAT… And took over… (Million man march.) Blacks can / Whites can’t! We have to give up our Slave like job.!

  • Bert Cundle

    The Real Problem… NOT the FALL of AMERICA! But; The UNION BUSTERS… BUSTING UNITED STATES! Calling the U.S.Falg the American Flag! And The Pres. & “Politicans” in the U.S. Government, SPEAKING FOR America!

  • nehope

    Reading the contributions on this subject I have to make following comments:
    a) Those poor souls who are quoting forever the Bible, Jesus and what have you, your recommendations in regard to the present situation is hopeless and worthless.
    b) Those who are inciting violance of any kind are not only wrong, but have no chance of success. The Military has sworn an oath to the Leader of this country, they will shoot……
    c) Politicians – Democrats and Republicans – are not capable of fixing the problems facing the Pulibc.
    d) The upper level of the filthy rich has reached a plateau of corruption which is unbelievable. This section of the human race has reached the bottom of immorality.
    e)The US is financially bankrupt. US Banks are going bankrupt every month. The FDIC is funded to the tune of 18.9 Billion, yet it’s responsibilities could be in excess of 4 trillion.
    Do you see a bright future? One more observation: All these writings are being monitored.
    Those who are willing to face the facts would be well advised to read the “Fall of the Roman Empire”. Just change the dates and you have a compareable disaster.

    • Denniso

      I agree w/ much of your analysis,but we are not facing an imminent decline and collapse like the Roman empire. We are watching the results of a capitalist system w/ too little control over it and it’s exactly what you would expect when money becomes the god of a system.
      We will probably struggle through this crisis and reach a more or less stable economy again w/ all the crap that goes along w/ our system and society continuing to make our country look rather insane…but we will likely continue on for some time. Rome knew nothing about society,gov’t,war,human nature and economics compared to us in this modern world controlled by marketing and repression and money.

      • nehope

        I have no disagreement with your statements. However, they did have a Senate which operated not unlike the present one.

        However, in a nutshell and by no means all problems that triggered the downfall of the Roman Empire, was coming to an end during the 4. Century AD.

        The main contributors to the ending of the Roman Empire:

        a) Christianity
        b) Barbarians and Vandals (Illegals) entering the Empire.
        c) Decay of the Roman Army.
        d) High Inflation
        e) The poisioning of the drinking water (lead content)
        f) Poor Management by the Government (Economics)
        g) Division of the Empire into two parts
        h) High Deficit.

        Thanks. W.

        • Bert Cundle

          Basicly: They Spread themselves to thin, trying to Conqure the rest of the world! ( TIME IS A PERVERT… For in Time; All THINGS CHANGE!)

          • Denniso

            You’re right, and we’ve been doing the same thing now for 60yrs…trying to control the planet w/ military force and money. Why don’t the rightwingers shout about all the soldiers and bases we have
            all around the world? We are injecting billions of $$ in other countries w/ our military presence and that’s money that doesn’t do us much good here. The military budget has doubled in 10 yrs and it’s full of fat and waste w/ things like Haliburton’s no bid contracts in Iraq. Why don’t the rightwingers help force us to end both of the current wars that are the longest in our history?

  • Bert Cundle

    THIS REMINDS ME OF THE MILIONARE IN WATTS, THAT REPORTED HIS SECURITY EQUIPTMENT HAS BEEN STOLEN.

  • Stan Kurzet

    Deniso, A popularity poll performed by the pro Obama Progressive propaganda machine that has evolved from the American media, is about as meaningful as one from Stalin’s Pravda. Your citing these two apostles of Saul Alinsky as most popular according to a thoroughly discredited ObamaBot media tells us a lot about you.

    • Denniso

      Yes it tells you something about me, that I’m not as partisan and clueless as you. Most of the world admires both Hillery and Obama and it’s you neo Neanderthals who are in the minority and can’t stand to see a Black man and a liberal woman recieve such accolades. Get used to it,because they’re not done and won’t be for 6 more yrs.

      • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner

        Denniso,

        Obama’s popularity is going up.

      • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner

        Denniso,

        Did you know the mythical Christ might have been black? Boy thats a heart stopper.
        Black Virgin;
        Curiously, several of the above-named Saviors are represented as being black, Jesus Christ included with this number. There is as much evidence that the Christian Savior was a black man, or at least a dark man, as there is of his being the son of the Virgin Mary, or that he once lived and moved upon the earth. And that evidence is the testimony of his disciples, who had nearly as good an opportunity of knowing what his complexion was as the evangelists, who omit to say anything about it. In the pictures and portraits of Christ by the early Christians, he is uniformly represented as being black. And to make this the more certain, the red tinge is given to the lips; and the only text in the Christian bible quoted by orthodox Christians, as describing his complexion, represents it as being black. Solomon’s declaration, “I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem” (Sol. i. 5), is often cited as referring to Christ. According to the bible itself, then, Jesus Christ was a black man.

        • Denniso

          The white ‘Christians’ sure don’t want to accept that Jesus could have been balck and was certainly at least dark skinned…no way.
          I have a few Christian friends and I don’t begrudge them their belief but I also don’t accept any of their pious and sanctimonious preaching either. They are progressive people who don’t really worry about whether Jesus really existed or not, and I can live w/ that. Some of what is ascribed to Jesus is good common sense and was handed down from thousands of yrs before,whether he was ‘real’ or not.

          Happy new year to you Coal Miner…drive safely.

        • http://gunner689 gunner689

          you’re right corn-holer; that would be a mythical Jesus. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a black middle easterner.

  • Stan Kurzet

    Marlon Folden, You say that they can’t lock us all up? Have you checked out the number of FEMA camps in the country? Have you noticed that they all have the concertina razor wire tilted inward?

  • wayne

    The liberals, whether they are Democrats, or Republicans, are responsible for the mess this country is now in. We should not vote for a person because he is one of the two parties above. We should be voting in people who have Conservative values that will not spend more money than what what the treasury takes in. Every family is supposed to do this, so why shouldn’t the government do the same. Every since the Democrats removed the gold standard the government has been over spending (wasting) our money. Maybe we need to take away their printing press.

    • nehope

      Sorry to spoil your weekend:) The gold standard ended during Richard Nixon’s administration 1973/74. Am I wrong?

      • denniso

        You’re right and Wayne is wrong. Also, countries are not like individuals…they can run deficits and sell bonds and notes to raise money when needed. People much smarter than me or wayne in economics know that a country has to have the flexibility to change the money supply in response to different economic conditions…leave it to trained people to figure out and get back to your own household budget.

  • KevinL

    People seem to know the bad guys but professed that nothing could be done about it. Well, when things get bad enough, chaos will reign, and anything goes! We had the French revolution, the Russian Romanov affairs….sort of as precedents. Look the common/little people have the numbers and they can physically take out evil elites at no time if that time comes — Extermination!

    • denniso

      I wonder if in your intelligent opinion, Beck,Limbaugh and Palin are members of your ‘evil elites’???

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        No, they are members of the Truth Squad. something your kind abhors like a vampire does a cross.

  • http://gunner689 gunner689

    A head to head meeting between Soros and Mr. Nosler would be a good start at ending this anti-American insanity. The time for talk is about over. Millions have sacrificed their lives in our countries wars to keep us free. We now face the greatest internal threat to our nation since the Civil War and what are we going to do about it ?

    I say Palin for Pres. and “Chesty” Puller for Sec. of Defense. I might add Nathan Bedford Forrest for Sec. of State.

  • Delores Smith

    STRAWBERRY SHORTCAKE,
    Is that your real name? Delores Smith is my real name.
    I don’t think you’re qualified to advise me that I should toughen my skin, when you know nothing about me. Let me help you. You demeaned my mentality, and that’s rude. I worked directly for a Presidential Inauagural Chairman. I believe that I have greater insight than you do about politics. When you change your name to your real name, you’ll be as tough skinned as I am. Delores Smith Delores109@cox.net

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Wiselady

    Wiselady says:
    1-4-11

    Thank you Granny Mae, for giving such a porfound bit of information on why we are going through this economic mess with our liberties dewindling. We have electeted to become prisoners of selfish government greed, believing they would take care of the poor. Now we have more poverty than we had in past years.

    I saw it coming 30-40 years ago when our govertment began to support Unions, give Grants to help illegals remain here and apply for all sorts of funding with wild excuses, educating Latinos to hate America, as is now happening in Tuscon, Arizona. The negative teaching of American history is now the norm in many states. No politician is out there saying, “stop it!”. Only a glimmer of hope is surfacing with what the State of Arizona is doing, standing up to the Socialists in Washington DC.

    As a former educator/business woman, I had to endure mediocrity and fought as hard as I could to stand up against it. I left education and concentrated on doing my own investments; succeeded beyond my wildest dreams and I ,too, would love to find another country. But I still love my country and have ahigh regard for those who died to keep it going.

  • Delores Smith

    BOB LIVINGSTON,
    Thank you for getting people to think…703 responses so far. Happy New Year and God Bless You and your Staff.
    Delores Smith
    Delores109@cox.net

  • http://personalliberty.com shepster

    Friends; I am from Youngtown Ohio, it was a one industry steel town. Mills got bought out, stripped of assets, closed, sold what remained and the new owners got huge tax breaks and credits. They had steel companies overseas also, thus eliminating their US competition. Happened in mid 1970′s. Just in case you wonder where US manufacturing went, why and how. We paid for our own undoing, just like today. We have been getting betrayed for generations now.

  • geller

    yes, there is a special place in hell for Beck, Limbaugh and palin. Very special.

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      Yes it’s a big room where people who tell the truth but few will listen reside. There is an old saying about people like you and dumbiso; Never try to teach a pig to sing. It’s a waste of time and it annoys the hell out of the pig.

  • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Wiselady

    wiselady says:

    1-6-11

    Geller, hell is when people can’t find jobs, lose their homes, become ill and can’t pay their bills because their retirement income is reduced, while the politiians satiate their empoyees, in city, state and Federal jobs with heffty Union pensions and run around telling us lies that things will get better. I Believe hell is here now, created by those who lie to us, and it is none of those you mentioned. Ii is those who live with greed in their hearts, demand higher taxes, can’t manage our money, and they can’t protect the borders because their eyes are more focused on giving amnesty for the purpose of getting more votes so that they can increase their greedy paws with power. We had amnesty but the laws were not enforced! They lack common sense.

    Try helping the homeless who went to Vietnam, returned and were spit on by the Jane Fonda’s gangs. Read the book, “Tortured for Christ”, by Dr. Richard Wurmbrand who was imprisoned in Siberia for 14 years because HE WAS A CHRISTIAN JEWISH MINISTER. I met him and knew him well. Check out, . He lived and suffered in hell…was near death when some missionaries paid a heffty price to get him out, but God gave him a new life and he lived to be 92 years to tell the world the horrors of socialism and Communism. He became world renowned. I challenge you to read it.

    Yes, there is a hell for evil people howoever; I am thrilled to tell and know that Jesus Christ is the one who can keep me from going there. I know Him well, too. Very often the truth makes us blind.

    History is currently repeating itself so watch out with the dollar value going down, faster than we can say “jack rabbit”, because Obama believes $14,000,000,000,000 we owe can be paid by raising taxes and printing more money…and we can’t even pay the interest on this amount!! I say this is a living hell for the retired people whose income went down and can’t pay their mortgages..

    Get an old, but good history book after you read Dr. Wurmbrand’s. And try writing $14,000,000,000,000 as fast as you can!

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