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Fallout From Arizona Anti-immigration Law Continues

April 27, 2010 by  

Fallout from Arizona anti-immigration law continues While praised by many immigration reform proponents, the law passed in Arizona that seeks to limit illegal immigration by making it a crime to be in the state without documentation has stirred controversy among many ethnic organizations.

Last week, the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce criticized the law, saying it will result in the racial profiling of Latinos. It has now been joined by The Hispanic National Bar Association, whose representatives claim that the legislation raises "grave constitutional issues."

In addition to racial profiling, the alleged constitutional violations include freedom from unreasonable seizures and lack of due process guarantees, according to the association.

HNBA National President Roman D. Hernandez said that "if enacted, this law will create an impediment to effective police enforcement of major crimes."

He cited local law enforcement officials as saying that "Hispanics in general and undocumented persons in particular will be less willing to cooperate in providing information to police."

The Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhood Act was passed earlier this month and it makes it a state misdemeanor to fail to comply with Federal law requiring that foreign nationals register and carry their documents with them.

Moreover, it directs police officers to inquire as to immigration status on a "reasonable suspicion" that an individual is undocumented.ADNFCR-1961-ID-19737484-ADNFCR

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  • s c

    Is Roman Hernandez out of his mind? He’s “concerned” that Arizona’s recent ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT bill ‘will create an impediment to effective police enforcement of major crimes.’ He sounds like he’s never understood English. It is the government’s REFUSAL to do its constitutionally-required job that has created and maintained multiple problems.
    Does Hernandez ever listen to the words he spews? Is he a trained monkey for people who have hidden agendas? He may qualified to be an Obummer czar, but Hernandez is also typical of a defective mentality that creates and maintains problems so ‘certain’ people who sell protected status can have job security (career, criminal politicians).
    Hernandez is a first-rate imitation of Hitler’s Lord HaHa in WWII. How can anyone not see this airhead for what he’s trying to do to America in the name of social engineering?
    Give ‘em hell, Arizona. Do what is right, and do it the first time. Lenin’s Bolsheviks were wrong. Hitler was wrong. Stalin was wrong. Mao was wrong. Saul Alinsky was wrong, and King George Obummer is worse than WRONG.

    • Jana

      sc,
      In watching the news reports and the hispanics out on the streets rioting much like they do in 3rd world countries, we can see that it is mostly the illegals that are demonstrating. And yes, YES I can tell an illegal most of the time just by looking at them. I live in Texas and believe me they are pretty well distinguishable.
      No, I am not a racist. I welcome anyone coming over here legally. That is spelled L E G A L L Y which is for the unfortunate people like Am. Lib. who cannot read or comprehend common sense.

      • David

        Ya know what’s interesting? The democrats want to turn the illegals into voters, only. They don’t dare want them to go after jobs which may displace union workers. So then what? DRAG our country down the tubes more quickly? Yes

        • denniso

          Anyone w/ the ability to think rationally should boycott Arizona…don’t travel there, don’t buy gas there, don’t eat in their restaurants…stay away and keep your money out of the state. The law will last about a month and be a ridiculous part of their history.

          • whatnextnow

            Why cause its legal to go there and you are against everything illegal, including Illegal aliens that dont belong here

          • http://goeaston.net shorebarb

            The law is an exact duplication of the Federal Law. It is not unconstitutional. If you are in this country illegally you need to leave. Arizona is footing the bill for almost 1/2 million illegals. They are educating their children, giving them medical benefits and every other benefit which is supposed to be for American citizens not illegal immigrants. The Feds have dropped the ball and Arizona has to keep its’ legal citizens from being kidnapped and murdered along with its’ law enforcement officers. I will gladly go to Arizona and spend my money when I know it is safe to do so. All of us who believe in the rule of law should do so to support a state which has put up with this for far too long.

          • marvin

            TO DENNISO you have the right to say what you are saying if and from what i assume that you are a citizen of the united states if not you have no rights to express your opinion this country was built by hard working people from all over the world that came here to help and to work not have kids and demand that we the citizens treat them as citizens even to breaking the law that we the citizen have to abide byArizona has a god given right to defend is citizens that have said enuf is enuf i say the arizona law will stand because the federal goverment cares not about we the people that have to obay the law and allow criminals yes criminal it is a crime to be here undocumented to with the help of people like you to demand the same rights afforted to legal immigrants and one more point you seem to ignore the voters of arizona voted yes voted now thats not hard even for me to understand you are aware of the right to vote that is a process were you reg to vote then go to the poles and vote then the reps and sen vote if it passes the gov then signs it in to law then people are happy if the goverment goes agin,s the will of the people then they vote you out now that not to hard to understand is it lame brain

          • C L

            Denniso – From One Arizona Citizen: If you were from, lived or had seen or experienced just one tenth of the crime, dismay, destruction and terror for which these illegal immigrants bring with them when they invade, then maybe you would understand where we are coming from.I stand firmly against ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS costing us an average of $30,000 per person per year. No wonder we are so indebt and can’t seem to find enough money for LEGAL U.S. CITIZENS.Illegal immigrants pay an average of $5,000 per person to be smuggled in to the U.S. – legal immigrants pay $500 to live here as U.S. citizens. You can’t get citizenship in the U.S. if you are a felon and/or if you don’t really want the U.S. as your Country. So, the question is – if you really want to live, work and raise your family here, then why would you pay 10X’s as much to be here? Answer: Because you are a ciminal and/or you just want to take from your hard working U.S. neighbors. Just because you don’t live in AZ does not mean that illegal immigrants don’t effect you. Did you know illegal immigrants are taking the jobs from U.S. citizens from coast to coast. They are smugled in and sent in every direction, they commit crimes in every state of the U.S., receive Social Security benefits, free medical care, etc. You don’t have to live in AZ to know that we can’t afford this.

          • Mildred Decker

            Wow, and you probably voted for Obama as well as being an Illegal!

          • Mildred Decker

            My comments were directed at the fool who is recommending we boycott Arizona, written by one who is obviously UNINFORMED AS TO WHAT SOCIALISM IS AND WHAT IT DOES TO A COUNTRY – GOD BLESS AMERICA AND HELP US SURVIVE WHAT IS BEING DONE TO DESTROY US!

          • kilrntex

            (words removed for offensive content) There’s millions of us just waiting for the time when it all comes down. GET SOME! GET SOME!! I hope Texas enacts the same laws as Arizona and then I hope the demonstrators come out and raise the same hell as they did in Arizona. Send the illegal scum back to hell with a liberal on their backs. As they say in the oilfield, “my kelly is down with all this mess”! LOCK AND LOAD UP!

          • JC

            Think I’ll finally but that condo with a pool in Scottsdale.
            Looks like Az. is the first to start doing something sensible about
            the infestation.

          • Jo

            Are you kidding? After they passed the law gaoing after illegals I’m thinking of moving there. Finally someone is thinking for the American people. Way to go Arizona, hope the other 49 states follow suit and finally stop the raiding of America.

          • http://GOGGLE vaksal

            WHILE THE PEOPLE PROTESTING HERE IN THE UNITED STATES ARE SCREAMING THAT ITS RACISIM ,LETS CALL A SPADE A SPADE,FIRST THE STATE OF ARIZONA IS FIGHTING FOR ITS LIFE ,OH YES ITS THAT BAD ITS NO LONGER SAFE TO GO OUT INTO THE STREETS OF ANY CITY IN ARIZONA,WHY WOULD I THINK THIS ,WELL THE FACT IS JUST ACROSS THE UNGAURDED BORDER ( THANKS TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS IN WASHINGTON) THERE IS A MASSIVE DRUG WAR GOING ON AND OVER 1800 HUNDRED PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED JUST IN THE LAST YEAR ALONE AND THE WAR HAS SPILT OVER THE BORDER NOT ONLY IN ARIZONA BUT IN ALL THE BORDER STATES,BUT ARIZONA HAS BEEN GETTING THE WORST OF IT IN KILLINGS AND DRUG GANGS AND YES ITS SAD TO SAY BUT ITS FROM MEXICO,WHY BECAUSE THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT IS POWERLESS TO FIGHT IT,WHY? BECAUSE OF THE VERY NATURE OF THE BEAST,DOWN MEXICO WAY,BUT PEOPLE ARE SO FED UP BY THE CRIME WAVE IN ARIZONA ,WHAT ELSE CAN THEY DO ,BUT BY FINDING AND WEEDING OUT THESE EVIL PEOPLE OUT OF ARIZONA AND ITS A SHAME THAT THE VERY MEXICAN COMMUNITY HAS TO PAY THE PRICE,BUT THATS THEIR PROBLEM,WHY SHOULD ANYONE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ALL THIS LAWLESS ACTIVITY ,BECAUSE OF LAWLESS PEOPLE,SO SOME BAD PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING HERE WITH PEOPLE THAT JUST WANT A BETTER LIFE HERE,AND IN RETURN OUR PEOPLE ARE VICTIMIZED ,MURDERED AND RAPED OR KIDNAPPED OR THERE SAFETY IS SECOND TO A WAVE OF LAWLESS PEOPLE THAT DONT THINK OUR LAWS MEAN NOTHING TO THEM,WELL THATS THEIR PROBLEM,NOT ANYONE ELSE,I SAY GO BACK TO MEXICO AND CLEAN UP YOUR LAWLESS NATION ,BUT DO SCREAM RACISIM ,FOR IT NOT THAT ,BUT ITS CALLED HAVING NO RESPECT FOR THE LAWS OF THIS NATION THE UNITED STATES,WHAT TYPE OF MESS IS IT CAUSING JUST LOOK AROUND THE WHOLE NATION ,DRUG GANGS,AND GANGS MS-13,THE LATIN KINGS AND EVERY OTHER FOUL THING THESE LAW BRAKERS HAVE BROUGHT WITH THEM,PERSONALLY I LIKE HISPANICS FOR THEY ARE A GOOD BUNCH OF PEOPLE,BUT SOMEONE HAS TO SET UP A SET OF RULES TO GET THE BAD ONES OUT OTHERWISE THE STATE OF ARIZONA WILL TURN INTO THE SAME KILLING ZONE AS IN MEXICO,DENNSIO I RESPECT THRUTH OVER HYPE AND IT SEEMS YOU REALLY DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON DOWN THEIR ,I DO FOR I HAVE FAMILY DOWN THAT NECK OF THE WOODS AND ITS GOTTEN SO BAD THAT TUSON IS LIKE A WAR ZONE,DONT GO OUT AT NIGHT IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF A MEXICAN GANG AND IF YOU ARE A WOMEN YOU MIGHT BE RAPED OR KIDNAPPED OR MURDERED LIKE THAT RANCHER AND SEE YOUR CHILDERN GET HOOK ON DRUGS,WHY BECAUSE ALL THE MORONS THAT ARE CRYING OH! WE ARE BEING PICKED ON ARE( ILLEAGAL)THE POINT IS IF THEY DONT LIKE LAW AND ORDER,WHY DID THEY COME HERE TO OVERTHROW THIS NATIONS LAWS? IF THEY DONT LIKE IT JUST GO BACK ,ITS THAT SIMPLE! AND AS FAR AS THE LEAGAL MEXICANS HERE,WELCOME TO THIS NATION ,AND THE REST GO BACK AND TAKE MOVE IN WITH EVERY THUG THAT CAME UP HERE WITH YOU LAWLESS PEOPLE.AND AS FAR AS JOE ARIPIEO THE SHERIFF AND THE GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA ,KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK,FOR YOU ARE DOING WHAT MUST BE DONE ,OR CHAOS WILL TAKE OVER THE STATE OF ARIZONA,AND AS FAR AS WASHINGTON,WELL ITS SAD TO SAY THAT IF DOGS HAD FLEAS,THE KENNEL( WASHINGTON DC IS OVERRUN WITH OVERPAYED FLEA RIDDEN DOGS THAT ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT ILLEAGALS THAN THE VERY PEOPLE THAT LIVE LAWFULLY IN THIS NATION,GET OUT OF THE KENNEL AND DO YOUR JOBS AND GUARD THE PEOPLE THAT GIVE YOU EMPLOYMENT AND IT SURE ISNT THE PEOPLE IN MEXICO,THE POINT IS LETS VOTE OUT EVERY BUM THAT IS PUSHING THIS GARBAGE,OF LETS NOT FOLLOW THE LAWS OF THIS NATION,I REST MY CASE!

          • http://naver samurai

            I don’t know what planet you came from, but go ahead and return with a quickness! I live in Indiana and it was very hard to find good paying work because of all the illegal immigrants coming here from south of our boarder. I’m glad our governor has set up programs to deal with this problem. Larger fines, immigration sweeps, jail time, and other are just part of our program to deal with this. Good job Arizona!

          • Palin12

            No denniso, I will not be boycotting Arizona. In fact, I will be visiting more often now.

          • denniso

            It’s a free country, do what you like. But you’re wasting your money.
            When Az and the cowardly and money hungry Repubs see how much money they’re losing from canceled tourism and convention biz, they’ll cave and rescind the law…I give them about 3 months before they wimp out.

          • Palin12

            I am a 45-minute drive from the AZ-NV state line at Hoover Dam. And I don’t consider visiting the Grand Canyon a waste of money. When I have a little more time, I also like to visit Tombstone, a very historical town known for the OK Corral and Boothill Cemetary.

          • Mary

            IF THE HONDURIAN PEOPLE IN CENTRAL AMERICA HAD THE BALLS TO PUT UP WITH INTERNATIONAL PRESSURE FROM ALL THE PROSTITUTE OGANIZATIONS LIKE OEA, EU AND OBAMA. WHY ARIZONA WON’T DO IT. ASAP I’LL VISIT ARIZONA. I’VE NEVER BEEN THERE BUT AFTER THE CLEANNING FOR SURE I’LL GO.

          • Sharon

            Excuse me! I am a 66 year old widow living in rural Arizona. I am armed if necessary to protect my home, and I carry concealed. If I drive out of Arizona, I am immediately confronted by unemployed Hispanics standing on street corners looking for cash jobs. And the others work in fast food restaurants, laundries, hotels, construction, and other service industries, taking jobs away from unemployed Americans. Perhaps you are a little “rich kid” or career student, because you sure don’t understand the problem of unemployed Americans who are losing their homes and businesses, as well as their lives. Why don’t you get a job with the Border Patrol and find out what is going on???

        • JeffH

          kilrntex, go back to your liberal buddies and peddle your violent wares with them..I’m not buyin’ your leftist deceptive glutius maximis for one minute. You’re a liberal hack!

        • http://PERSONALLIBERTYDIGEST ANDREA66

          RE: BEV PURDUE LOST A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HER WHEN SWANNANOA
          CITIZENS VOTED AGAINST ANNEXATION AND GOV BEV REVERSED THE
          RULING – IT WAS LIKE SPITTING IN THE CITIZENS FACE – JUST
          SO ASHEVILLE WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE CLIFFS TAXES. A DISGRACE.

          • David

            If you lived in New Bern, NC (her home town) that would have been a different story. Ya know, I’m thinking about taking my family on vacation to Az this summer….that’s my kind of state!

    • Marilyn

      Check out CNN and the report on illegals and amnesty. That will rock your socks off.

    • Mary

      SC we need a cleaning in this country and fast. They should put in jail as many as possible of those animals rioting in Arizona and sent them where they came from the ones without papers. They don’t do that in any country in the world just here for the weaknes of the government. They let this country become a pigs field. All the rest 49 states should follow Arizona for love to what is left of this once Great Country. If somebody don’t like it PLEASE LEAVE. We have to much non-grata population.

    • William Nealey

      the far left and their trained monkeys will do and say anything to keep our borders open so they can keep new democrat voters coming in,

      • George E

        Exactly! The “funny” thing is if the Democrats believed that most of the illegal immigrants would vote Republican given the chance, Democrats would build a fence so high on the border you couldn’t see the top, and would spend billions on border enforcement.

    • Ron O.

      First of all, why are they calling these Mexicans, Latinos? They are Hispanics. As for impeding “major crime investigations,” a lot of those major crimes will be prevented by getting all of those illegal drug dealers out of our country. Arizona is just doing what the Federal Government has failed to do and we know why the Federal Government has not done anything about the illegal, trespassing Mexicans. The Democrats in power want to make them citizens and secure their votes at our expense. THAT IS THE AGENDA. Anyhow, S C, you are right on.

      • denniso

        Are you people above really as dumb as you seem, or is this all an act
        and you’re just having a little fun? If you’re serious and actually think you make any sense at all on this issue and don’t realize that you’re all being led by the nose, then you have my pity.

        • marvin

          denniso i have a novel idea, befor you and that other idiot american liberal post ,try thinking i know that may get in the way of what you conceive in your pea brain lies told as the truth but you may start thing for your self and not as a clone of obama reid pelosie hell you may get to were you can walk talk and chew gum as the same time with out help and god forbid and even make some sence

      • American Liberal

        Lmaoo.. Blondi… To much Coffee this morning…or are you a child with an unlimited supply of sugar…..?… Bottomline… When the courts get the 1st profiling case that targets a natural American citizen this ignorant law in Arizona will be overturned…..you can’t target people based on ethnic looks…. What if they passed a law that anybody that looked like” Larry the Cable guy” had to show papers to walk down the street?… Most of you republican Tea baggers would have a fit…. I thought you were concerned with losing right, upholding the constitution and tyranny?… Oh, being on a public street or in a private car isn’t like profiling potential terrorist on planes… I better tell you why… You choose to be on a plane… But you walk city streets as part of everyday life… Same with being in a private auto… You have 4th amendment rights….on commercial plane you give up your 4th amendment right… So says the Patriot act…. Just so you know… I oppose the Patriot act… And so should you..it shreds the constitution and bill of rights.. Especially your 4th amendment rights

        • http://goeaston.net shorebarb

          This is really ridiculous. Just because someone is Hispanic does not mean they will be stopped. If they create a situation in which there is probable cause to stop them, i.e. speeding, drunk driving, beating up their girlfriend, robbing a store, climbing over a wall at the border etc., they will be stopped. They will not be stopped for walking down the street or going about their business like every other person. These statements of yours are typical ACLU type liberal agenda items which have no relevance to the situation. They are meant to incite people and make people who believe in our laws and our right to not be invaded by illegal immigrants look bad. The villians are not the American Citizens. The villians are the illegal immigrants and you cannot put a good face on commiting a crime. It is illegal and they must go along with their free ticket children. They have no right to be here.

          • George E

            Well said. Thanks.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Actors and Criminals Lawyer Unit!!!!!!! ACLU!!

        • JLC

          Liberal Americano ¡Tú eres poco loco in la cabeza! In case you don’t understand that, it says that you are crazy in the head. Citizens, as well as non-citizens who are in the country legally, have constitutional rights. Aliens in the country ILLEGALLY have the same rights as would a burglar in your home. The key word there is “illegally.” It is as simple as that.

          • JLC

            Oops ! Spelling error. That should have read “en la cabeza”

        • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

          If Larry the Cable Guy look-alikes were entering this counrty illegally and started breaking other laws also, then yes they shoud be stopped and check to see if they’re here legally or not. Its time to start enforcing our immigration laws because the consequences are becoming to great and our citizens are losing their lives, and you can’t do that by sticking your head in the sand, you have to pro-active to enforce any law. To bad you liberals can’t convince regular American citizens to back your agendas, but have to import foreigners to do so by turning your backs on our laws and putting all of us in danger. This Arizona law is really unneeded if the federal government would just enforce their own laws, but then where would Obama, Nancy, and Harry get the votes to keep them in power? Murders, drug smugglers, and kidnappers are all using this border to get to our citizens to perpetrate these crimes, but to stop this the federal government would have to also stop the human trafficking, and there goes the future democratic voter pool. Regular American voters have had enough of the democratic agenda and change. They’re fed up with it and will make a change of their own. These illegal aliens and their supporters are the only ones ignorant enough to want more and only because they think they will get citizenship from it. Obama has just told Congress this is the issue he wants to fix next, so watch how he and the Democrats push for amnesty and citizenship for all these illegal aliens before the November elections, in a desparate attempt to keep themselves in power. If this happens, then
          Viva la Revolucione, Americans will no longer wait for the enforcement of the law but take matters into their own hands, just ask those American citizens in Arizona living next to this border.

        • BOE

          Liberal fool….go spend some time in the ER any night of the week..and see what goes on. And the sad part is not only do we pay for these illegals health care but 99% are drunk! Most likely all of them are drunk and brought all the kids with them!! Very sad

        • tkmfarm

          We already have to have iegal I.D.. WE call it a driver license or picture I.D.. It is required by law.

    • Gerlof

      You know what? I don’t really give a damn what these”protestors
      think or want!! If the law passed–OH WELL,then
      that is the law!Don’t like it?GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!!
      If you are legal and WORK and PAY TAXES,you have
      nothing to worry about.If you are a liability to
      AMERICANS,GET THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA!!!

      • cherir

        I agree with what you said. We don’t have enough jobs for the educated, English speaking citizens of this country so why bring in these illegals who do not learn English, take jobs away from citizens, murder and rape people of this country, bring in illegal drugs to sell to our children.
        Darryl Steinburg of Sacramento, Ca and the minority professional ballplayers are against this law so why don’t they donate their high dollars back to Mexico to set up schools, jobs, and health care for these illegals so they stay in Mexico. If they had something to offer these people down south they would not be entering the USA.

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

      I completely agree with you. Enforce the law and make our citizens safe and don’t let political correctness get in the way, but use common sense as did the founding fathers of this once great nation. Its time to take our country back from those who want our laws broken for the gratification and benefit of themselves. This includes Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and all Democrats who think these illegal aliens will provide them with a majority over the conservatives to keep them in power.

      • cherir

        Have you heard that our great politicians like OBama, Reid and Pelosi are in the process of granting statehood to Puerto Rico as our 51st state because they would capture more Democratic votes?

    • OB58says:

      Hey sc, Personal Interests is their big AGENDA, also trying hard to intimidate THE AMERICAN PEOPLE… Not going to work so bit it!

  • http://www.obamalies.net Stephaan

    What all those ignorant ethnic organizations fail to realize is that it IS NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE like they are saying!
    The ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE HERE ILLEGALLY, AND THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO THEM!! PERIOD, END OF STORY!!

    The ILLEGAL ALIENS that are here ILLEGALLY, have broken the law!
    Hellooooooooooo? They are criminals!
    Every state should pass a law like this since our INEPT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT won’t do their job and close the borders!

    HNBA National President Roman D. Hernandez, the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, La Razza, and the A.C.L.U. are a bunch of ignorant liberal ——-sticks!

    • William Nealey

      you should have added CORRUPT in your statement,

  • American liberal

    Besides the KKK, the American Nazi party the Tea Baggers and ignorant rightwingers, who praised this new racist law in Arizona…. This law will be overturned .. It’s 100 % unconstitutional…you can’t target ” anyone based on the way they look…. The rightwing wants a communist type country..do you want a country where you have to carry papers like Nazi Germany??..it’s the rightwing that breeds tyranny .. It’s the rightwing that takes away rights..if you want a country with a bunch of rightwing morons walking around armed your insane… If it’s up to the rightwing this country will look just like Afghanistan and Iraq… Americans biggest enemy is the rightwing..

    • Dax

      Un American, & uneducated Liberal,
      Why don’t you get a political education before you post here? Maybe then you could actually address the article and the posters comments without looking like such an ignorant libturd!

      • Palin12

        I don’t even bother reading Unamerican Lib’s posts. Just skip down to the next post. He’s already proven what an uneducated, brain-washed fool he is. When he admitted in an earlier thread that “Ronald Reagan gave me AMNASTY (his spelling) that’s all I needed to know.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Palin12,
          He didn’t listen to the news reports enough to know that the governor has stated many times that the police are not able to detain solely on looks or color of skin. What a dip!!!

        • Dax

          Palin,
          Yep, you’re right. What’s the point of wasting time reading A. Liberals crap. (words removed for offensive content) as she has shown herself to be rather ignorant. She also hijacks the names Kay and Liberty train.

          • JeffH

            Dax, libertytrain is not a liberal, believe me. She is a fair lady just as Claire is.

          • eyeswideopen

            Dax, your radical viewpoint and you superior attitude is exactly what Americans are tired of. You make assumptions and you are totally wrong. But thanks for the compliment. Dax, is that some kind of foreign name??? Have you got papers to prove you are white???You need to be the correct color of white or else you can be deported at a moments notice. LMAO!! Don’t stay out in the sun too long.

          • denniso

            The Repubs are only sealing their fate as a fringe party and blowing their chance to gain congressional seats in Nov…Passing laws like this and alienating not only hispanic voters but millions of moderate Americans who see the party going over the edge into reactionary and extreme politics for the obvious purpose of playing to their extremist base and the noisy ‘tea party’. The party that sat by for yrs while Bush/Cheny trampled the constitution and burst the budget and is suddenly wide awake and conscience stricken when a new administration comes in to try and fix the mess.
            For all the ranting on this site for months about the ‘unconstitutiona’ acts of Obama and now these same people love the idea of a Soviet and Nazi style ‘law’ that will give the police power to demand citizenship papers from anyone walking the street, and especially anyone who ‘looks’ or ‘acts’ differently…wow!!!

            BLATANT HYPOCRISY FROM THE RIGHT AND TEA PARTY AND ‘CONSERVATIVES’!!

          • libertytrain

            Jeff, Dax’s problem is that I don’t always agree with him or his other posting names therefore I’m a liberal. Jeff, Thank you for your kind words.

          • JeffH

            libertytrain, I will always watch the back of good Americans that have good values.

          • libertytrain

            JeffH – that’s what I value about you – and Claire for that matter – always fair. Realizing that disagreeing with someone doesn’t mean that person is the “enemy” – almost like behaving like a grown-up is supposed to behave – it is hard fight that we on the conservative side have to fight – For me, I would prefer it is done in a more dignified manner than to behave like a bully. So much more is gained –

          • Dax

            Libertytrain,
            Nope, not what I said. Eyes wide open has hijacked yours and Kays names before. She has impersonated you and posted under your name. I do agree with your posts, except when Eyes is using your name.

          • libertytrain

            “dax” ok then -

          • JeffH

            Dax, rereading your post, I get it..”hijacking names”. Someone does it occasionally as I well know.

          • Claire

            liberty-train- A person gets more with honey than they do vinegar. LOL

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Libertytrain,
            I just want to make sure we are square after my appology to you. I would under no conditions purposly disrespect a mother of service members. It means a great deal to me!

          • Claire

            libertytrain—My post was in answer to your “so much more is gained”…..truly spoken.

          • libertytrain

            JoeH, You’re aok with me.

          • libertytrain

            Claire – you and I seem to have the same kind of values -

        • OB58says:

          Hey Palin 12, He can only say… CORPSMAN …SADLY … he needs to join the military before running for office, I hear amen!

          • Claire

            So far my name has been highjacked once. And they better leave well enough alone. I can’t imagine anyone stooping that low.

    • obiwan

      Hey Oxymoron libtard,
      Havn’t you found a job flippin burgers yet or gotten into a GED english class. Quit spewing your nonsense idiocy and let the adults have a conversation.

      • denniso

        Adults??? Maybe adults w/ a lobotomy…adults who can think independently and logically?? No, you guys are like children who have their favorite toys taken away and then can only whine and scream uncontrollably…you’re too clueless to realize that you give away your IQ every time you spout and rant exactly like the extremist before you,or after you and all around you…you’re nothing but lemmings following blowhards like Limbaugh/Beck/O’Reilly/Palin/Savage.
        All of them smiling on the way to the bank w/ their fortunes you help provide for them. You’re pure dupes and too slow to understand it. Sad….

        • Mary

          DR.SAVAGE IS THE BEST. Just Brilliant. He knows what he talks about it (FAMILY, LANGUAGE AND BORDERS). GET EDUCATED LISTEN TO HIM . jUST THINK AND RESOURCE WHAT HE SAYS. HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF. We new a WALL BETWEEN USA AND MEJICO ASAP. EXACTLY LIKE THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA. LOVE YOUR COUNTRY.

          • denniso

            Taking you as an example of a Savage listener, I rest my case…

        • George E

          Denniso,

          Don’t forget, folks on both side of the political isle exploit politics for personal gain. Al Gore, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, as well as many other liberals and socialists also come to my mind.

    • Right Wing

      Your opinion is worthless. You throw out wild comments hoping to get a rise. I believe you probably are employed by Soros in one of his “Shadow Worlds”. Or maybe the Joyce Foundation? You fit the mission of such organizations to tear down from the inside. Everyone should realize that liberal means infectious parasite. Look for instance how the Joyce Foundation was hijacked and warped by liberals…
      Beatrice Joyce Kean established the Joyce Foundation in 1948 after accumulating hundreds of millions of dollars in the lumber industry (via family-owned timberlands, plywood and saw mills, and wholesale and retail building-material distribution facilities). During her lifetime, most of Ms. Kean’s modestly small philanthropic gifts were to apolitical recipients such as hospitals and health organizations. After her death in 1972, a professional staff took control of the Foundation and began to move it toward the political left. At first, universities and cultural institutions were added to its roster of grant recipients. A few years later, radical environmentalist and conservation groups entered the picture, as eventually did organizations dedicated to social justice, prison reform, and increased funding for government and social services, particularly for minorities. A notable recent member of the Joyce Foundation’s Board of Directors was Barack Obama, who ran successfully as the Democratic candidate for an Illinois Senate seat in 2004.

      • denniso

        ‘Liberal means infectious parasite’? You are listening to Savage and Limbaugh way too much and doing the bidding of them. If you knew any history you would know that your words,and their’s, are exactly the tactic that Hitler used to demonize and dehumanize his ‘ememies’ and victims. Are you really that clueless that you use Hitlerian methods and call yourself an American? You need help…

        • Barb

          Denniso, I don’t listen to Rush very often but I can assure you that he would not say a Liberal is an infectious parasite. He would come up with something much better than that more intellectual and more cutting actually! AND he would be right! Funny how you bring up Hitler since he is one of the Leftie’s GODS! We don’t emulate Hitler you Leftist progressive Libs do! Just like You are the racists and always call us racist! You guys get confused awfully easily don’t you?

          • denniso

            Limbaugh says that liberalism is a mental illness…Limbaugh is not even close to being ‘intellectual’, more like the right hand man of Hitler,Goebbels, the propoganda minister. And, liberals loathe Hitler and what he did…your comment is asinine and juvenile. How old are you? 13??

          • Mary

            Barb, don’t waste your time, Denniso is a lost case. He doesn’t see farest than his nose. The Truth hurt. He is Blind minded. I listen to a lot of people personally and on the radio and as my grandfather used to say: pick up the good and trash the rest.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Right Wing,
        No one in their right mind(or left mind) would employ dennislo to do political agitation. He is so lame at it they would never get their moneys worth!!!!

    • Dale

      What part of illegal do you not understand. So what if it is profiling, the fed has not done their job and we must take action because a bunch of these illegals are drug dealing criminals. You keep your beliefs, I hope reform does not pass and when the supreme court rules it unconstitutional, I hope they enforce it anyway. If they don’t I really hope that one of these illegals becomes a citizen and agrees to do your job for less placing you in the street.Or maybe your kids get involved in drugs with these illegals and their drug cartels. You should think before you open you mouth, because I didn’t know Pelosi had relatives on this site.

      • denniso

        Dale…’Illegal’??? Too bad life isn’t as simple as you’d like. When’s the last time you broke the speed limit law? Do you drive w/o a seatbelt at any time? Do you ever ‘innocently’ hide or shelter income from the IRS? Have you ever had a few drinks and still driven home when you know you’re breaking the law? Illegal??Like most people, the rightwing breaks the law every day in these obvious ways.
        Every time you speed you are putting others lives in greater danger and ignoring the law that was passed for public safety…how different is that from people walking across the border looking for work? Are they causing more damage than the thousands of deaths a year from drunk and reckless driving? You’re hypocrisy is way too obvious and blatant….

        • Barb

          GET REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Jana

            Barb,
            He is not paid to get real, nor does he have the ability. He looks at the world differently than most people do. They are afraid of us because we have finally found our voice. We have learned how they work and we are making a stand. They aren’t used to us making any stands, they are used to us sitting down and shutting up and not making any waves. They are the only ones allowed to make waves, you know like Bill Ayers.
            Well we HAVE found our voice and are no longer letting these bullies have their way. Their tactics actually have never changed, they have just gotten more aggressive about them. That’s all right. We are tougher now, we can take it!

          • denniso

            Janna…now that’s a hoot! We educated and tolerant people are afaid of you??? Boy oh boy…You think because most of you drool over and wave your guns around we’re afraid? Hardly…
            And you’ve ‘found your voice’??? Where the hell was your voice when Cheny/Bush were battering the constitution and spending a trillion $$ on two failed wars and another trillion on the drug bill and another trillion on tax cuts for the wealthy? Where was you voice when 5000 or more of our kids were killed in those wars and are still being killed? I can only guess that you ‘lost’ your voice when you had your dimwits in total control…

        • George E

          Denniso

          Interesting and logical argument. However, I still believe that illegal is illegal. Looking the other way regarding one crime doesn’t, or shouldn’t, justify another crime. I guess we’re all hypocrites at one time or another. After all, we’re human. However, if we start justifying crimes on that basis, we’re going to take this country down the drain. You can use your argument to justify any crime, I suppose, and you know that’s not right. Don’t you?

          • Jana

            George,
            I agree with you on this for sure. If we start accepting any illegal activities as the norm then we can justify all of them. Sure we have all broken the law by speeding, and if you’re like me you get caught. I had to go to class to relearn all about driving. I had to show the judge that I had taken that class. Have I sped since, not on purpose. If I catch myself doing so I slow down, it isn’t worth it. But the main thing is I didn’t get away with it, I had to pay with my money and my time.

            I have noticed that when these demonstrators go out and riot and throw bottles at the police the news depicts them as ‘victims’. When the TEA Party people gather together they are a mob. Hmmm sure is a double standard here.
            Another point, when the liberals and the illegals don’t like being told they are illegal they are standing up for their rights. When we call them illegal, then we are racists. More double speak and double standards.

          • denniso

            I’m not justifying one crime because other ones exist or are allowed. I’m responding to the comments that pretend the immigration issue is only about the law and illegality. If that were the case then why aren’t people up in arms over the other broken laws that citizens commit everyday and that aren’t enforced.
            Turning our country into more of a police state isn’t the answer. Patrol the border, fine large co’s that hire illegals and pay our workers enough so they will do the jobs that now only the mexicans will take.

    • Al Sieber

      We need this law here in Ariz. 70% of us want it. the Govt. won’t secure our borders, they didn’t under Bush and they won’t under Obama. it’s the states that give the Fed. Govt. power. the people of Ariz. are tired of being robbed, raped, beat up, kidnapped, scared, murdered etc. and we’re tired of these “blood sucking ticks” bankrupting our hospitals, and our social services. have you read bill 1070? these laws were already in place but not enforced,the Fed. govt. did not enforce then, so the people of Ariz. petitioned the governor to do something. how many times have you been stopped by the police and not asked for I.D.? I think this is just a way to push amnesty on us quicker.

      • Jana

        Al S.,
        I applaud Arizona for making a stand. The ones out there protesting are the illegals. Look at their tactics, they are using bully tactics to get their way. They have not come over here to assimilate, they have come over here to bull their way in and take over. They bring their laws of justice with them which is if they get in a fight they use knives on each other and then will run back across the border to not be apprehended by the law. They are now writing down on the pavement “burn this city down” and while out rioting are pointing fingers at the police acting like they are using a gun to shoot them. This will get a lot worse before it gets better. These people mean business. This is just like unleashing gangs on this city. They are bringing their gang mentality over here to use against us. We need to send all of the ILLEGALS home.

        • JC

          Damned straight. If they want what America has let them build it…in Mexico.

        • Claire

          Jana–I am with you on this. Your words are very true.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Jana
            As am I! Right is right!!

    • http://AnyStreet.org Horizon3

      I am getting really tired of you people misquoting the AZ Law Re:SB1070 Here is the Summary READ IT! http://is.gd/bJPlY I challenge you to find ANYTHING that discriminates against ANYONE in it. If you can’t just shut your pie hole and go back to the HuffPo and preach to your choir.

    • William Nealey

      no. the problem is with you STUPID left wingers.STUPID LIBERAL.

    • Ron O.

      Hellooooo American Liberal. Do you not understand that the United States Constitution does not apply to illegal, trespassing individuals? Entering this country illegally makes you a criminal. THAT IS THE LAW! Helloooo…..wake up. You have a ring in your nose and you are one of the lemmings being led around by the Obamma crooks. You’ve got it all bass ackwards. Right wing, left wing doesn’t matter anymore. The real Americans want our Republic back. The one that rewarded hard work and granted opportunity to those who came here looking for freedom. The government that exists now rewards laziness and those who do not want to contrubute to the nation’s prosperity and wealth. This Government wants to control every facet of your life including what kind of health care you can receive when you need it. Wake up! You’re type are the problem.

      • American Liberal

        Ron… I understand… But you don’t… Constitutionally I’m not concerned with the illegals …. It’s the Mexican Americans that were born here in America were talking about when were discussing constitutional violations…it’s aginst the 4th amendment to target people based on Race.. Do you understand yet?..maybe you should take a look at the 4th amendment and see how it reads…. So let’s be clear… It’s Mexican American CITIZENS .. Not the illegals that make this racist profiling law Unconstitutional… Get it?

        • Jana

          Am. Lib,
          Which part of the 4th Amendment?

          And, if that bothers you then lets just all have to do the same thing, show proof of citizenship anytime we are pulled over or have a cause to come in contact with a policeman. That would solve the whole problem. We have to show our drivers license and proof of insurance or give some ID anyway. (I watch cops). If someone who is illegal does nothng wrong like rioting in our streets, then they will have no probable cause. If they learn English and assimilate, then they will have no probable cause to be asked.

    • AJ

      If it is in the cotton field, it might be a boll weevil. It might not be. You sure as hell don’t ignore it and look the other way. You look at it. That cursory examination my friend is what you call “profiling.” If it turns out to not be a boll weevil after all, turn it loose. If it is, smash it. I am astounded at how unnecessarily muddled this issue has been made by power brokers buying votes with false promises.

      If I were Hispanic, Latino, or whatever… I would not mind proving my citizenship if it would remove suspicion and doubt. Those who are here legally are suspected and doubted because there are so many people here illegally. Our good friends will never feel they are our brothers and sisters until they know that we accept them fully. And that will never happen until a clean sweep is made to filter out the mexican drug-lords our legal family thought they were escaping by coming here.

      • kate8

        The libs feel that the intimidation, damage to life and property, loss of jobs, robberies, rapes, drug-running, murder and every type of crime committed against Americans is just a small price to pay to insure the sensitivities of anyone who might be mistaken for an illegal.

        • Jana

          kate8,
          Exactly!
          My daddy had a business downtown in a border town and was robbed. The illegals were secretly living on the roof of his building and came in through the roof.

          What most people who don’t have to face these conditions don’t understand is, these people have no good hygiene practices. They will go into a store and instead of going to the restroom to do their needs, they go into the dressing rooms and do it on the rug, this is men and women. They do it in the doorways of the businesses downtown. They stand in front of store windows and doors and people will not walk through this sea of people to go into the stores.
          My parents had to go an hour early every day just to clean up outside their store which at times was very disgusting. My husband helped my daddy clear the roof and repair it. They had a mattress up there and cooking pots. We were just thankful they didn’t burn the building down. All along the whole street, there were break ins. Daddy had to finally give up and go out of business.
          Just think about the farmers when they come across their property. These farmers and their families do not feel safe in any way, and they aren’t safe. I have lived this life, I know what it is, and it is not good.

          • kate8

            Jana, I’m so sorry your family had to go through that. This is what libs are fighting for – the ability of illegals to continue to harm Americans. It’s hard to believe they find this acceptable.

            I’m afraid that is what the country is headed for if we don’t stop it. And the hygiene issue is a big one, as even legal immigrants are no longer screened for diseases. We now have resurgences of terrible diseases we had wiped out because of screening. Illegals with TB, hepatitis, and any number of diseases work in restaurants, food processing plants and places where they spread their infections illnesses, and no one cares. I even have a friend who came down with TB, and he is a clean fanatic. He was stunned to learn this. It had to have come from one of these sources.

          • angel-wanna-be

            Jana, Jeez o man, I’m sorry, that’s digusting for anyone to have to go through. And your right Jana, no one knows unless you’ve lived it, thanks for your personal story, and here’s hoping, that some of these Liberal idiots read it, and weep!

          • laura

            Jana-it’s stories like yours that need to be heard. I pray more will listen.
            Thanks for sharing.
            GOD BLESS
            AND GOD BLESS AMERICA

          • Claire

            Jana– I am sorry about your Dad losing his business because of these lowlife. But I am glad you posted this information. People need to know this, and realize exactly what is happening and why we must send the illegals packing!

          • Jana

            Kate, angel, laura, and Claire,
            Thanks. It’s just a bad memory. I even have a few more of them.

    • http://goeaston.net shorebarb

      I think you had better look over Nobama’s agenda before you accuse the Tea Party and the Conservative Right Wing of this Country of tyranny. Please get you fact straight or stay off of this blog.

      Obama is now in charge of GM and Chrysler. He is now in charge of Heath Care. He lied about illegal aliens getting free health care. He lied about Federal funding of abortion. He now wants to take over the Financial markets. What will be left? Get over it. He is basically a liar and the American people have now found out. What goes around comes around. His comeuppance will be this November and November 2012. We have had enough. When people who live near a border cannot feel safe in their own homes due to illegal immigrants and drug cartels it has to stop.

    • BOE

      Man ..do you have things back assward.

      • BOE

        That was for liberal.

  • Dax

    Fallout From Arizona Anti-immigration Law Continues ??
    I think I would change the title of this article.

    Why do people keep MIS-representing the act of breaking the law, and illegally entering this country as “immigration” of some sort? Can anyone tell me?
    Immigrants and immigration is a nice word (p.c.) to clean up the words criminals, and illegal aliens which is what they really are. Kind of like muslum terrorists was cleaned up by OSAMA OBAMA to read “enemy combatant” and “terrorist bombings, suicide bombings, and road side bombings” was changed to “man caused events”
    They are not immigrants, and illegally entering this country, is not immigration.

    • William Nealey

      you got it right DAX. those IDIOTS need educating,

      • Dax

        William,
        I think all the liberals already know what’s in the bill, and they’re just complaining about something, anything, to try and disrupt this site. None of their complaints holds any water. It’s just stuff they’re making up so they have something to biaatch about.

  • Time

    ((It is a crime when you are here Illegally.))
    Whats so bloody hard to grasp about that.

    Our Government has fallen down on the job, in HOPES of VOTES.

    A criminal is a criminal – not that most all the congress and senate and lets not forget our specail gand of thugs with BarryO are all Criminals.

    Lets clean out that toilet in November.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Time,
      Off subject, but on tha conspiracy theory on JFK we posted about. Google Midnight Magazine/ JFK on ARI yacht after assasination?
      then go down to Is Howard Hughes Dead and buried off a Greek island?
      the first story there is about JFK and Jackie.

    • William Nealey

      Time you have it exactly right. thats the reason the dems. and the left wing IDIOTS want to keep our borders open. for new democrat votes,

  • JeffH

    INVASION USA
    Look how much money illegals milking you for

    Amount expected to rocket if Democrats grant amnesty

    A new report from Numbers USA, which advocates for limits on immigration into the United States, says each American paid $330 last year to provide government services for illegal aliens.

    Numbers USA staffer Chad MacDonald said if an amnesty plan becomes law, allowing illegals from coast-to-coast to suddenly establish citizenship, their retirement program will set U.S. taxpayers back an estimated $2.6 trillion.

    “Fifty-three percent of recent immigrants use welfare services and immigrants who have arrived since 1990 and their legally born children account for a 75 percent growth rate in the nation’s uninsured population,” MacDonald said.

    “We’d like for Congress to pass a special bill demanding that the census data be used,” William Gheen, president of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, told WND at the time. “The alarm that needs to be raised is that every illegal alien that fills out the census is stealing taxpayer resources and political representation.”

    • http://?? Joe H.

      JeffH,
      According to reports, even if they are given amnesty and given citizenship to start them paying taxes the average family of them will still use 29,000 dollars more than they pay per year due to the fact that they are low wage uneducated workers who don’t have a high school diploma!!

      • Claire

        JeffH and JoeH—All I can say is that I will really be pis— if they are granted amnesty. It will be the straw that broke the camel’s back. Literally.

  • Left-winger

    Nice to see that the right-wingers are always so quick to refer back to the constitution, only to manipulate it into saying what they want it to say.

    The law that Arizona is trying to pass is a joke!… What are they thinking, that people are going to automatically go back to where they came from because they will no longer be able to reside in that state?…Wake up people, illegal immigration is a world wide problem!..law or no law, undocumented individuals will be here, and when or if they ever get caught, guess what, they’ll be back in 2 weeks and they’ll keep coming back. What we need is a system that works…NATIONWIDE. Forcing undocumented families and individuals to go into hiding is not going to help anyone. Violence will rise, crimes will go unreported, and people will eventually start spreading to other states where they’ll hurt the economy even more for neighboring states!. Here’s a proposition for all you right-wingers out there… How about you all shut your mouths and open your minds!! Everyone deserve a chance to better thier lives, who are you to pass judgment? I bet if you woke up in a world where you’re constantly afriad for your well being, your walefare, your family and your freedom, you’d make the move. We are all so quick to judge. Remember, you only get what you give…let’s make America better by sharing it and working side by side.

    one last comical thought, All right-wingers are right-wingers because they dont know any better, Please keep simmering in your ignorance, the world will just keep moving forward for the better without you.

    • Jana

      Lefty Liberal,
      You condemn yourself by your own words. I will give you back what you gave and I quote,
      “How about you all shut your mouths and open your minds!!”

      • William Nealey

        well said Jana. the problem is left wing liberals only want we the people to shut up. there are more than enough laws on the books. they are not being inforced because the leftwing IDIOTS and the democrats dont want them enforced,

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Left-winger,
      You show your ignorance by your words! The law has already been passed!! Try listening a little closer to the news. Even the MSM has reported that!!!

      • left winger

        it’s msn you idiot

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      Left-Winger,

      Why on earth would we just shut up and leave you to all the fun? I live in NM and I commend Arizona for putting the Federal Government and apparently you, on notice. The Feds (all parties in DC) have not done their job, forcing border states to take action to protect their “legal” citizens.

      Before you start spewing that racist venom…”legal” citizens encompasses anyone born in this country or who are in the U.S…..”legally”. The problem is, the Feds have played blind while allowing this situation to get to boiling point. Things are different since 9-11; we can no longer as a nation…expect our border states to simply suck it up…financially or otherwise.

      Personally, it would be okay with me…if everyone, regardless of ethnicity who got stopped for a traffic or other violation had to prove their citizenship. This could easily be done when initially issued a drivers license or state ID….simply provide your birth certificate. In the long run, this would likely help the hispanic community….well at least those here legally.

      • William Nealey

        you got it so right Gal.as a retired truck driver having run west coast quite a bit I had to show so much identification every time I came through a check point in california Az. and even NEW mexico and Texas, so left winger needs to keep his IDIOTIC crap to himself,

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Fed Up Gal,
        I’m from Ohio and I commend them for passing this law! we have a town not far from us called Painesville and it is a sanctuary city. The city is always puttingt tax increases on the ballot as the city is BROKE! the crime rate there is so much higher there than here and I am about 20 miles closer to Cleveland!!! So yes, no Hell YES I commend them for passing it!!

    • angel-wanna-be

      Left-Winger, How much do you get an hour for sheep rustling?_
      If your the best the Liberals have, DON’T QUIT YOUR DAY JOB!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Angel,
        According to the news reports I have heard this law is real close to the law that is on the federal books and not being enforced!! Arizona is just doing the job that the feds aren’t allowed to do!! Go Arizona and Go Sheriff Joe Arapao!!!!!

        • angel-wanna-be

          Joe, I give the Governor of Arizona all the credit in the world. Stopping this influx of illegals has to start somewhere and your right, she did! _ Bambi in Washington doesn’t like being shown up!
          and yessss we need a Sheriff Joe Arapao around here too. I’d like to see the criminals, just try and sue him for something. He’d tellem’ to dance, while shooting at their feet!

          • David

            I would like to see she and pelosi go a couple of rounds…..she has gusto! I wish my gov. Bev Perdue wasn’t such a pushover.

          • JeffH

            I think she would drop Pelosi like a bad habit!

          • kate8

            Have to be really diligent, though, because bad habits have a way of resurfacing.

        • William Nealey

          way to go Joe. and way to go Joe Arpaio. hell the feds tried to tie his hands. but they didn’t succeed. we need to clean washington out and put some people in there who care about we the people. we do not need proffessionel politicieans making decisions for us. what we need are some good STATESMEN in washington,

          • http://?? Joe H.

            william,
            We need a few Joe Arapao’s in Washington!!!! I can’t help but picture him telling the progressives ” There ain’t enought room in this town for the both of us. Don’t let the sun set on you in D.C.!!” Wouldn’t that be something to see??? HaHa!

    • American liberal

      Lefty… Good post.. I agree..this law won’t stand… And as we’ve seen for decades no law is gonna stop illegal immigration..wait till Arizona figures out they need those workers…

      • Barb

        The only reason a state like Arizona would need those workers is because of the lazy a.. freeloader libs like you on welfare!

    • Dale

      I hope you awake someday in the world you talk about. WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND. MAYBE WE’LL GET LUCKY AND THEY WILL MISTAKE YOU FOR ONE AND SEND YOU BACK WITH THEM.

      • cheryll

        Apparently the government doesn’t know what illegal means either. The government says they have a right to live the american dream, well hell, I was born in this country, and I still haven’t lived the american dream.. I have struggled so the illegals can live it though.

        • kate8

          I remember reading about how many illegals have numerous stolen identities, and collect government money from each one. A single illegal could be collecting $10,000 or more per month. And a good deal of that goes back home to the family.

          And don’t forget that they also get social security now, so I suppose they could collect on each fraudulent ID.

          I’m thinking of revoking my citizenship so I can get in on some of their benefits. Might as well, since I’ve been paying long enough.

          • Jana

            kate8,
            I have lifelock on my ID now as my SS# was taken by an illegal. I happened to do a credit check and spotted it and was able to put a stop to it. I went to the police and the SS office as well as all three major crdit agencies and kept making a loud roar until everyone got it before it became a major issue. Whew was I lucky. Later I found out what could have happened.

      • William Nealey

        Dale we couldn’t be that lucky,

    • BOE

      Hey Lefty…you know why Obama wants them here don`t you? Because somebody has to work manuel labor. Blacks folks ain`t gonna work and contribute. Nope..black folks just take and take and take…so as white folks die out the “latinos” will be expected to work to support the black people. End of story.

  • Daniel

    Right-Wingers are closet racists!!

    • s c

      Read any good biography about the life and ideas of Margaret Sanger (one of the world’s WORST racists), and then telll us how it is that your White House god will NOT refute her ideas and beliefs. Margaret Sanger wanted to EXTERMINATE all blacks. She was a progressive’s progressive. Obummer is an off-the-chart progressive, but he WON’T REFUTE Margaret Sanger. DO YOU KNOW THAT MEANS?
      YOU figure it out, and then YOU explain it, Einstein. You know SQUAT about racism. De-program yourself before you dare to flaunt your world-class IGNORANCE on this website! GROW UP!

      • kate8

        Good point, sc. Libs are big on eugenics anyway.

        I recall a short while back Hillary saying how much she admires Margaret Sanger. And still the minorities worship these people, and accuse us, who support everyone’s right to life, racist.

        As I’ve said before, you can always know what the left is doing by what they are accusing the right of doing.

        • Jana

          kate8, Those are good words. We can always know what the left is doing by what they are acusing us of doing. I love it.

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      Daniel…..Nice to see you’re proud to be so open about your own racist status.

    • E-Rock

      Well you know that race card is played out!! And I’ve been pulled over by law inforcement as the have created probable cause! Im white so I cant scream racism! So now once again as we try to rid ourselves of ILLEGALS…CRIMINALS…that race card is being pulled once again!! These liberals have it all backwards! Cant attack back with fact and logic!!!!!!!!! Its always “you’re racist” OR “your just full of hate”…lol! Get a clue with some fact and logic or shut up! The smart people are sick of the ignorance!! This country is slowly diminishing because we have ignored our Constitution! Just hand the country over to them…these liberals will not be happy till we are a 3rd world country and we all are dependant on the government!!!!!!!!!

      • Mary

        E- Rock. 3rd World countries citizens are not government dependents. Why do you think we are full of illegals here? In a 3rd world country if you don’t work you don’t eat. That simple. They don’t put up with nobody crap including their own.

    • William Nealey

      daniel you sound like an absolute IDIOT.so I can only assume you are one,

    • Jim MACK

      the ignorance of the law is no excuse… if you snuck over the border. it’s illegal. the mexican army, armed, protecting illegals and high profile drug lords into the US. is illegal. murdering and kidnapping american citizens is… you guessed it… illegal. undocumented voting by these persons is illegal. were i governor of one of the 4 states in question, armed incursion would be looked upon as invasion and the national guard would have standing order to fire right winger? no Daniel, it’s the law. illegal… is against the law. and all peoples engaged in such activity? go back. Mexico wouldn’t like it? get them to stop the drug flow, and start an oil flow. one barrel per day, per illegal.

    • Warrior

      Left Wingers are Open Racists!

  • Jim H.

    I think the feds don’t like it because the state took the bull by the horns and decided to do their job and made them look the fool. Arresting someone for doing something ILLEGAL is just law enforcement, not racism. Criminals come in all race, color and creeds.

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      Jim H,

      Very well said!

      • William Nealey

        KUDOS Gal,

        • http://?? Joe H.

          William,
          i think what we need to keep in mind is that during Bushes term, when he tried to pass amnesty over 78% of us were agtainst it. We stopped it by our voices in unison! Even the progressives can’t stand in the way of 78% of the people!! Not even the illegals or their gangs!!! God knows we are right!!!

    • kate8

      They are just following the communist/Marxist playbook, stirring up turmoil and chaos everywhere possible. That’s what this is really about. Some businesses have had the advantage of cheap labor, but that is just a small part of the issue. It is to disrupt life in America, pit the population against one another, stir up anger and frustration, and bring us closer to the breaking point.

      Isn’t it the NWO motto: order out of chaos. This administration is just following the plan for bringing in world government.

      And AL, don’t bother with one of your usual derogatory remarks about me being a right-wing nut case. I’m no longer reading liberal posts.

      • William Nealey

        Kate you are so right,we all should quit reading their STUPID drivel,thats why I quit reading the new york times and many other rags. and I quit watching msnbc abc nbc and noe cnn.

    • George E

      I’m thinking the Feds are also nervous that other states may pass similar laws as well. If this happens, the administration may lose the political initiative on immigration reform to the states and conservatives. This could cost the Democrats votes in the Fall elections. This is a very touchy subject with the American people, and how it is framed makes all the difference in what they eventually support. For example, Americans do want their borders and immigration laws enforced, but they don’t want to discriminate against anyone to do it. So, if the Democrats can frame this as a racial discrimination issue, then they win. Otherwise, they lose.

      • Jana

        Georgoe,
        I sure hope other states do. And then Obama has the audacity to see if he can challenge this? HUMPH! I have already emailed the White House, I am going to email my congressmen too, as well as tomorrow I am telephoning the White House.

  • angel-wanna-be

    I’m watching Hannity at the moment, and the Reverend Al Sharpton was just on, ranting and raving about PROFILING of people of color! How freaking ridiculous is this. HOW ELSE, ARE WE GOING TO STOP THE POLICE KILLINGS at the borders, STOP THESE ILLEGALS FROM CROSSING THE BORDERS, AND BEGIN TO GET A HAND UP ON THESE DRUG CARTELS, WITHOUT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PROFILING!!! The police are not permitted to stop ANYONE, without a reasonable cause. Isn’t SUSPIOUS BEHAVIOR STILL A REASONABLE CAUSE?
    so, What are we going to do, continue on with this POLITICAL CORRECTIVENESS BULLSH*T, FOR EXAMPLE: “EXCUSE ME, I DON’T MEAN TO BE RUDE, BUT DO YOU HAVE A GREEN CARD???”__Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the Arizona Governor, asked for help from the National Guard. I didn’t see Obama send her any help!_The Governor is to the point, she has to do something, and tough sh*t, if a few innocents get there feelings hurt. Being inconvenienced is a hell of alot better, than lying dead in the street, from being caught in the cross of gunfire!!

    • Jana

      angel wb,
      I watched a few minutes of it and couldn’t take it. Sharpton wouldn’t let anyone else have a point of view and it just reminded me of the lefties and Socialists on this site, so I turned it off.

      By the way a few of these guys could be plants either volunteers or paid, more than likely just volunteers to come on to this site and cause trouble. It sure seems like it. They attack with such hatred and since they all basically say the same stupid mantra over and over it seems organized.

      • angel-wanna-be

        Jana, Yes I believe your right, there is way too many Obama supporters/Sympathizers on here. Or more appropiate A**kissers! Obama has already begun his campaign for 2012 as per videos, by trying to fleece votes from (get this) women, hispanics, blacks and the young!. I would assume he targeted theses folks because, the majority of people in the Tea parties are older Americans and he knows us old farts aren’t buying what he’s selling. The Liberals try to make the Repubs look as if they don’t care about anyone, accept their pocketbooks. When we know ALL politicians are guilty as charged. Some are worse than others._But these Liberals shills on here, all spew the same stuff, I’ve learned to just ignore them. They can only shake us up if we let them___nahhhh!—-lol

        • Dale

          Marilyn, I agree with you, and what are these people he seeks votes from? They are low income, under educated, non taxpaying people whom he hopes to make a majority of in this country, so they will all be good slaves. Wake up America! Look at how gray Obamination is getting. He is worried, and worry is fueled by his deceitful, dishonest and egregious intentions. God help the ignorant and the blind, they need it.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Angel,
          The politicians don’t want to stop the drug runners as they are taking the drugs!!! how else do you explain their actions???

          • Jana

            JoeH,
            LOL good point. LOL

      • kate8

        I think you are right Jana. I’m sure these liberals on this site work for SEIU or some such org, and are getting paid WITH OUR TAX MONEY. Just another way these half-wits get to irritate us with their ignorant, hateful diatribes, and steal our money to do it.

        I’m skipping all of their posts. They really have nothing of value to offer and I’m tired of their insults and distortions. They are trained to do this and, by allowing them to control the comments the way they seem to, we play right into their purpose.

    • William Nealey

      I wrote to FOX and I told them I am sick and tired of al sharpto. also jessie jackson louis farakhan and allen holms. I was so glad when they moved him from the Hannity show,

      • http://PERSONALLIBERTYDIGEST ANDREA66

        I COULD NOT STOMACH THAT HOLMES EITHER.

    • Mary

      You’re right. I know for sure some people from latin american countries who are responsible for murder and other crimes. They are living here. They just jump the border like Peter in his house. This situation is out of control. Looks like this government don’t care if Arizona become like Mexico a drug cartel nightmare. Is it true that Arizona is the number one in the world for kidnapping? I know Mexico and Latin American are bad in general but here I’m not sure. Bad things are happening every day. I won’t be surprise if that is true. Imagine how bad some illegals are that I have some friends from Central America and they told me that some of the people that are deported from here don’t last not even a week over there. They can not believe how this country put up with so much human trash.

  • Claire

    The Obama administration says the Arizona law is “misguided.” Well, at least they have the guts to try to do something about the illegals. I have already stated that I have no problem with an ID card. I would do anything to get rid of the illegals. They are breaking us. I did not hear that the Arizona governor asked for the National Guard and nothing has been done yet? Imagine that! But they are sending the National Guard to Chicago!! Gotta take care of Chicago first and foremost. The violence/killings/robberies, drug users are rampant in Chicago. Mayor Daley and his cronies have done a great job!!! Heck, I don’t even go out after dark anymore and I don’t live in Chicago.
    Political correctness is out of the question. The law must do what they have to do, to he– with racism. No guts no glory.

    • angel-wanna-be

      CLAIR, Exactly!!__The Governor of Arizona had the kahunas to change the law and he was “shown up”, so to speak__So it’s appropiate I guess, Obama scorns her for taking chances. My hats off to her!!!_If we keep sitting around and waiting for the kind of change Obama promises, America will be known as Euro-America.
      BTW, Obama had the nerve to narrate the TV documentary entitled “AMERICA, THE STORY OF US”. As if he cared about us. AND naturally most of the people adding narration throughout the movie were Liberals, such as Sheryl Crow!___Talk about being two-faced!
      God Bless

      • Claire

        angel–I didn’t know he narrated a TV documentary. Where have I been? I guess I must have been asleep. I agree with you–hats off to the Arizona Govenor. Took a woman to get the job done!! Nothing against men, she just happens to be female! Good for her!!

        • angel-wanna-be

          Claire___Yepper, PMS and a handgun_Baby!__lol

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Angel,
            I’ve been married for 33 years. I don’t wanna be around for that!!!!!

          • angel-wanna-be

            JoeH, Lol___The old man and I, we’re together 38 years, married 35__Don’t matter who gets to 30 years of marriage, that’s pretty awesome in this day and age of divorce and means we haven’t killed each other yet!___lol

          • Claire

            Angel—Hilarious and oh so true!! Send a bunch of women with PMS and handguns after them. That will get rid of them in a hurry!!! LOL

          • JeffH

            angel-wanna-be, you are a hoot sometimes…keep it up girl!

        • angel-wanna-be

          Claire, Bambi didn’t narrate the whole story, just the introduction, but quite honestly, I was really put off by it. And I’m sick of seeing his damn face everywhere I look! I respect the office of the President, But, it’s who’s occupying it right now, that gets to me!

          • Claire

            angel—Oh nooooo, don’t call him Bambi–Remember, I love Bambi!! LOL

      • JeffH

        angel-wanna-be, I started to watch the show sunday nite and got sick to my stomach right away when Obama came on…switched the channel. The man is a bold faced liar and as radical as they get.

        Just a note,
        FRESNO, Calif. (KFSN) — One of the leaders of a radical political movement of the sixties and seventies drew a crowd of protestors in Fresno Thursday night.

        William Ayers(Obama’s buddie) will speak at Fresno State Friday. He’s a controversial figure because he led the Weather Underground, a radical group that set off bombs at the White House, the Pentagon and many other targets in the early 70′s to protest the Vietnam War.

        Nobody was hurt in those blasts, but Ayers radical past, and his more recent association with Barack Obama makes him a target of Tea Party protestors, who showed up at a Fresno Church where he spoke on a documentary film about the Weather Underground.

        About 50 members of the Tea Party Movement came to protest Bill Ayers appearance in Fresno.

        • angel-wanna-be

          JeffH, I saw this on Fox News this morning, I’m still amazed, at the idiots who bow at the feet, of known antagonizers such as Bill Ayers. I try not to get too upset about these idiots that follow the Liberals, because when I was younger and raising my kids, I was Not that involved in Politics. I only watched from a distance. Delving into it for the last couple years, has revealed a lot more info than anyone could ever imagine!__It’s plain to see, if they only open their eyes.

          • JeffH

            angel-wanna-be, same here…what an eye opner.

        • kate8

          JeffH, I know what you mean about watching BO. Just the sound of his (reverberating) voice makes my stomach turn. Anytime he comes on, I turn him off immediately.

          • JeffH

            Amen, I’m sick about it everytime I here his lies, eh,I mean voice.

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      AngelWB and Claire,

      I feel your pain. I respect Arizona’s governor for taking on this issue; she’s got more courage than New Mexico’s governor (Richardson)….that’s for sure.

      I just wish Arizona’s governor would ask all the states National Guard units for assistance on the border…then let each state’s Governor reject (if so inclined) her public request for assistance….so the nation can see each state for what it is.

      National Guard units are state militia’s. Look at the times National Guard units have been requested for state of emergencies in states other than their own. Living in a border state (especially after 9-11), I believe the current Federal immigration policy (or lack thereof) is a “State of Emergency”….at least in the border states. I’m not a military Judge Advocate (attorney), but I believe it’s usually up to the governor (ultimately), not up to the President….well except for the manipulative arm twisting that can and frequently does occur.

      • Claire

        Fed Up Gal–I agree with you–call in the National Guard, a number from every state, give them the supplies they NEED and get it over with. I think it is up to the governor to ask for the National Guard, but I don’t know for sure. I hope so. Now the Texas governor should pass the same law. And New Mexico-and California? I know I would. The question is–will the National Guard be allowed to shoot? Or just threaten? If it is just threaten, then it will not help.

        • Claire

          If they are allowed to shoot, then possibly war between Mexico and the U.S.? It could be a possibility–

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Claire,
            When all firing would be on U.S. soil? I doubt it!

        • Palin12

          I hope all the illegal aliens in Arizona don’t get any ideas about moving up to Nevada! We have more than enough of them already. We’re tapped out. We can’t afford you. There are no jobs…

          • angel-wanna-be

            Palin 12, I have and Aunt and Uncle living in San Diego. For years, they put up with illegals stealing them blind. They’d break into they’re garage and take anything they could find. My Aunt couldn’t even han they’re wash on the line to dry, because within a few hours all the clothes, were stolen off the line!__They eventually moved to another part of San Diego. I can’t believe people today.

          • American liberal

            Are you afraid of the scarey immigrants?

          • Palin12

            I want the illegal aliens out of my neighborhood, period! They tear down the property values on the whole block. The ones I’ve seen do absolutely no maintenance on the properties, junk and trash all over the lawn, beatup old pickup trucks parked all over, houses are an eyesore. They wouldn’t mind turning the whole subdivision into a barrio.

          • kate8

            AL’s remark is just typical of how the left views the havok the illegals wreak on us. They steal us blind and AL thinks it’s amusing.

            What a sick-o.

          • Jana

            A.L.
            If you aren’t scared of the immigrants then you are dumber than I even thought you were!.

        • angel-wanna-be

          Claire, I believe the Governmor of Arizona, did request Obama to send the National Guard, but he never acted on it.

          • angel-wanna-be

            AL___BOOOO!

          • Chaos Factor

            Angel… Illegals were stealing your Aunts underwear off her clothesline?……. Maybe they needed a tent?

          • angel-wanna-be

            Hey Chaos Factor, Comedy Central called, they’ve misplaced they’re Liberal Village Idiot, callem’ back and let’em know your OK!

          • Claire

            Angel–I had not heard this but it surely aggravates me. But I would have expected as much. He doesn’t want to lose the Hispanic vote.

        • Chaos Factor

          Claire… You want the illegal immigrants shot?…most of the immigrants are just looking for work… And are unarmed….but for republicans I guess any excuse to shoot people is a good thing…so would it be like( show me your papers) bam..?

          • Dale

            you’re a dumb ass, they are criminals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • angel-wanna-be

            CF, Oh Yessss, US BIG BAD REPUBLICANS!!__I can’t speak for them all___But, Us Bad Republicans, that give freely to charities, while the Liberals steal money out of our pockets, through tax and regulation, to spread the wealth around, to those who wish NOT to work for it.__Us Bad Republicans, who followed Reagan and listen to him declare, ” Mr Gorbechev, Tear down this Wall”__I haven’t heard ANYTHING a liberal has done to that Magnitude. The Libby crowd, hides behind the guise of “being for the working man”__ Right!__You guys don’t get it, They only want your vote and your dependency on the Government and most of the time, your Libby sheep are more than willing to let them call the shots for YOU!!

          • libertytrain

            Claire – leave it to Chaos Factor to create something out of nothing. Also, Unarmed – I wonder how that rancher was killed?

          • Jana

            Chaos Factor,
            The only illegals that need to be shot are the drug runners that are shooting at our Border Patrol, or any of them that are trying to hurt our Border Patrol.

            You said they are just looking for work. Yeah sure, just look at how peacefully they are demonstrating in the streets of Arizona. As soon as they get here there are organizations made up of stupid Socialists that help them fill out paper work to get ‘free money’ from the government. That money isn’t free to me, I pay dearly for them to get their ‘free money’. I have lived this life, we had to move away from there because it wasn’t even safe to go to the grocery store without getting surrounded by Mexican guys and being touched all over out in the parking lot. The grocery stores got dirtier and dirtier and played LOUD Mexican music.
            My husband had to go with me to the grocery store.

          • Claire

            Chaos Factor–Call it what you want. Everyone has the right to their opinion. And I certainly have a right to mine. But if push comes to shove…. Enough is enough. How else will the borders be protected unless the National Guard is called in? Will they be unarmed or will they be told to shoot if necessary? But I guess you think it is o.k when our border agents get shot and killed? Think about that. Personally I do NOT want to see any AMERICAN killed over the issue of the illegals. A few pot shots arent’t going to hurt. Scare them away. Killing? Nah, I really don’t believe in killing. I just believe they should go back where they came from. Hey, I have an idea!! Why don’t you go down there and take care of all the illegals? Take them back to Mexico and live with them. You would last maybe one day! LOL

        • jorgaone

          The National Guard has ALWAYS been under the Commandership of the Governor of that particular State–that’s why they are referred to as the “STATE NAME National Guard” The Commander-In-Chief of the US Military is supposed to be the POTUS.
          To even get the Governor to call out his State’s National Guard except for his use within that particular State–the POTUS is supposed to ASK–and get an acceptance–from the Governor of that State, based on a clear and carefully spelled out NATIONAL EMERGENCY.
          Of course–currently–the “Person-In-The-White House” seems to believe that HE is the Commander of all he surveys! ‘Taint so–and never will be…

      • angel-wanna-be

        Fed up Gal in NM__Yeah Bambi in the Whitehouse won’t send the National Guard down to Mexico, but last night on the news, I heard they we’re having trouble in Chicago,(where Bambi’s from) and thoughts were, they were going to the send National Guard in there. I haven’t heard anymore on it this morning. But, Talk about a royal slap in the face of Arizona!!__This guy has got to be the worst president we’ve ever had, no doubt about it!__Take that LIBERAL SHEEP!

    • William Nealey

      anything to do with whats right is wrong according to obummer and his socialist and communist friends,

  • American liberal

    Can someone remind me what Bush did about illegal immigration?… You mean he did ” nothing”…?… The only thing Bush did was Bankrupt America…

    • angel-wanna-be

      AL, Your like a bad penny, ya just keep turning up.

    • angel-wanna-be

      AL, Still blaming bush, huh?__ oooohh, thats right, what was I thinking, the smear Bush tatic is on the list of the Soros Manifesto, isn’t it?__You are a good little sheep.

      • Chaos factor

        Angel… So I guess that means you agree…once again the republicans are running in the other direction … I want to hear what Mitt thinks,,, what’s Newt think?.. Sarah?.. She can see Russia from her back porch … Isn’t it the Mormon church that believes Jesus made a trip to the American southwest at some point in his life?… Would ge need his ” papers” in Arizona…?..

        • angel-wanna-be

          CF, Mitt?__not fond of him, he developed the Health reform in Mass, too much of a Country Club repub for me. BUUUT, Keep going I’m sure you’ll find something that’ll get my dander up__BTW, your crack about Jesus wasn’t it either, besides, Jesus said, while nailed to the cross, “FORGIVE THEM FATHER, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO”__I’LL APPLY THAT PHRASE TO YOU!__your serve?

        • Jana

          Chaos,
          That was one of my pet peeves with Bush, that he did nothing. He even allowed two Border Patrols to go to prison. That was wrong.
          You know you think you are so smart, in attacking Bush but we all know he had faults. I only agreed with him some of the time. However I disagree with Obama now 100%. He has done everything backwards.

    • jorgaone

      YEP–A.L.SHEEPLE just keeps turning up!

    • Barb

      You are something else Am lib! Bush is OLD NEWS, BYGONE DAYS, NO MORE! We are talking TODAY, MORON! Today is your dictator who by the way has bankrupt the planet not just the USA and is Morally bankrupt! If anyone is surprised that the illegals would rise up and cry about Arizona’s new law then they are brain dead! All the border states need to do something to stop the flow, whether or not this is totally the right way to go who knows yet, but at least Arizona has the balls to try. New Mexico won’t because of their idiot governor, thank God I don’t live there anymore! I’m surprised Texas hasn’t followed suit and then there is fairyland west of Arizona they won’t do anything either! We live in the central part of the country and our state is considering doing the same thing as Arizona or at least in part. But then we’re mostly conservative out here in the heartland! AND we don’t need their labor or their crime so thanks anyway Amlib. And to answer your question of are we afraid of the scary immigrants, when they are illegal drug cartel leaders who would shoot their own Grandmas for a hit and Gang Bangers who would kill anything just for the thrill of killing then yeah I’d say anyone with half a brain would be a little scared, MORON! That’s what’s coming over illegally, twit!

    • angel-wanna-be

      A.lIBERAL, YOU MUST HAVE SECRETLY LIKED BUSH, YOU KEEP BRINGING HIM UP!__BTW, is The Bamster’s hopey, changy sh*t, keeping you well fed and housed, I trust?

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      TO AMERICAN LIBERAL,SO RIGHT BUSH BANKRUTED THIS NATION,WHY? BECAUSE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT CLINTON SIGNED ( NAFTA ) AND GAVE AWAY THIS NATIONS ECONOMY AT THE TIME OF SIGNIG THE WORLDS BIGGEST,WELL THAT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POISONED COOKIE THAT THIS NATION WAS GIVEN BY THE CROOKS PUT IN POWER BY YOU EVIL LITTLE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A GREAT VISION,A DREAM THAT IS ALL IT IS AND AMERICAN LIBERAL WELL ITS HERE YOUR GREAT DREAM,BUT DONT JUST TELL A TWISTED THRUTH,TELL THE WHOLE STORY,OH! AND WELCOME TO YOUR VISION,WELL MAYBE NOT AS YOU DREAMED,FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP TO THE VISION OF THE THRUTH,THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE TURNED THIS NATION INTO A BASTION OF CORRUPTION AND LIES ,BUT ITS NOT YOUR FAULT,NO JUST PASS THE BUCK ,AND SCREAM ,MOMMY AND DADDY NOONE WANTS MY DREAMS,AND I WONDER WHY? TO MUCH KOOLAID WITH YOUR TWISTED HALF THRUTHS.

      • cherir

        Read the book The Creature from Jekyll Island before you blame Bush. All about the so called Federal Reserve Bank. Rich families l,ike the Rockefellers that create money out of nothing; writing off debt for large banks and forcing the taxpayer to pay for their mismanagement and greed; along with creating inflation.

  • Chaos factor

    Has anyone noticed the Republican leaders have taken no stand in the Arizona….?.. Of course not.. That would require a backbone….

    • angel-wanna-be

      CHAOS FACTOR, Go back to school for a refresher course, don’t quit your day job either, your a little too inexperienced, just like your Cult leader!

  • American liberal

    More good news on the economy…. Ford motors post a 2.5 billion dollar profit…. Good Job President Obama….. Bad news for Republicans….

    • babybikerbabe

      And they did so WITHOUT government money. Just sound business principles and adapting to an ever changing marketplace. A large portion of their profit is from the TRANSIT-Connect small truck designed to meet the needs of small business owners. Do your research man.

      This, again, demonstrates your total inability to think for yourself and just “tow the party line”. You’re a mindless sycophant. Go spread your useless dribble elsewhere. Your vitrol will not ever change the minds of THINKING patriotic Americans.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Babybikerbabe,
        you’re right and Obummer has nothing to do with their success. They did it without him!!! Meanwhile GM, who he DID help had to lie about paying back their loan by paying one loan back with another!!!

    • Barb

      Here we go again, Ford didn’t take Obama’s dirty money and they thrived because of it ! Americans bought Fords not “Government Motors” vihicles for the last year and a half, MORON, that’s why they made such a great profit! The American people are to be commended and Ford not Obama HE HAD NOTHING to do with it! Do you even read the news, can you comprehend what is going on in this world at all? GEEEZE!

    • Dale

      Obama had nothing to do with Fords profit. ford’s good management did. Obama is an idiot and couldn’t run a convenience store.

      • angel-wanna-be

        Dale, KUDOS!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      amalib,
      Question. If Ford MOTORS had the best year of the big three, and they only made 2.5 billion profit, how did GM pay back 35 billion with interest??? There’s your 2+2=1 again. Must be that modern math of the public schools again!!!

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      TO AMERICAN LIBERAL,YOU ARE LIKE THE KID THAT BURNT DOWN THE HOUSE AND TELL HALF THRUTHS,FORD MOTOR COMPANY MADE MASSIVE PROFITS,WELL THE COLD HARD FACT IS FORD MOTOR COMPANY HAS BUILT THE LARGEST CAR AND TRUCK PLANT IN NORTH AMERICA IN MEXICO,AND 70 PERCENT OF THE PARTS ARE MADE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD THANKS TO CLINTON AND THE CROOKS THAT VOTED TO PASSED ( NAFTA) SO PLEASE POST THE THRUTH IF YOU WILL NOT JUST THE HYPE YOU POST BUT PLEASE KEEP POSTING FOR EVERYONE LOVES TO HERE YOUR DRIBBLE ,MOMMY AND DADDY THEY EXPOSED ME AGAIN. HA HA HA

  • Chaos Factor

    2 out of 3 Americans favor strict Regulations on Wallstreet….. The republicans oppose regulations of anykind….. Wonder if Fox( biased) news is reporting this….

    • angel-wanna-be

      Why, does that Pith you off fa fa?

      • angel-wanna-be

        LOL__I’ve got work to do, I’ll play later____ta ta for now!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      CF,
      Od news and as usual WRONG! They simply want controls on fannie and freddie as well so there won’t be a repeat of the past fiasco!!!

      • Barb

        Exactly Joe H. !!!!

    • Right Wing

      Your thought process is chaotic

    • JeffH

      Dude! Isn’t Chaos Factor a tag team in the WWE?

  • jorgaone

    ILLEGALS are just that–NOT LEGAL! They have already proven themselves a criminal simply by being here WITHOUT documentation that is real! NO officer will purposely put himself in possible danger by confronting what APPEARS to be an illegal alien merely to ask if he has documentation! He will ASK for ID because something the person has done or said appears suspicious! When was the last time YOU got stopped by a Highway Patrol for a ROUTINE traffic check? Pretty recent, wasn’t it? We as citizens–EXPECT to occasionally be checked for ID–it’s part of life, and part of keeping us safe! IF anyone objects to this routine stop and asking for ID–it’s probably because they have something to hide. Reminds me of the US citizens routinely asking for Obama’s long-form Birth Certificate–and getting instead an Executive Order to hide from discovery ALL records referring to his birth and childhood–to the tune of $1.7 MILLION of OUR money! Kinda makes a body suspicious of what there is to hide–in either case! (illegal aliens OR the occupier of the White House!)

  • HFlashman

    OK…let’s wipe the spittle from everyone’s face. Arizona’s law harkens to the darkest days of world history. The law applies not just to those of brown skin, or dark tans. It applies to everyone, and as such everyone who is in Arizona…whether resident or tourist, best be packing their wallets and ID. Illegal immigration is not just a problem in relation to Hispanics. Eastern Europenas also overstay visas and are here illegally. The law applies to them as well. So anyone, Caucasians included, can be stopped at random and asked to present their “papers”.

    Anyone…ANYONE ..can now be stopped by Arizona law enforcement and asked for their ‘papers”, asked where they’ve been, where they are going, what they are doing, where they live etc etc…and if the cop isn’t satisfied? They can hold you.

    So step back and think rationally … the State can now ask anyone, anytime, anywhere, for whatever reason, to see “papers”. Remember…a driver’s license does not pass muster under Arizoma law. IDENTITY PAPERS. Everyone now has to carry them in Arizona or be liable to be held without charges, without right to counsel, without a phone call…

    You cheer for that?

    The way to stop undocumented workers is simple. Those that employ them and knew, or should have known, of illegal status…should be fined and then spend 30 days in the county jail. No reprieve from jail time. 30 days in the county clink. The social stigma of being in jail will cure most if not all incentive to break the law and hire illegal labor. No jobs…..no reason to be here seeking work illegally. Problem solved.

    The question everyone should be asking their representatives is … why are they punishing some poor slob who is doing what everyone advocates..getting a job and working for a living? Why not go after those who employ illegal labor?

    So why is everyone giving those who break the law and emply illegal labor a free pass?

    • JeffH

      Newsflash!!!! HFlashman, there aren’t going to be random stops and ID checks without probable cause. No “profiling” will be tolerated.
      Illegal is illegal. The feds won’t enforce the laws against employers of illegals either. Man up and let the Arizona law be a model for America, afterall America is under siege at the Arizona border.

      • kate8

        You are right, JeffH, but vigilance is also called for, since the move to tyranny is incremental. A step at a time, so no one sees where it’s heading.

        • JeffH

          I’m not gonna ride the fence anymore. It is what it is, it ain’t the feds and Obama, it’s a state that has pleaded for help from the feds to control the crime associated with the illegals that bring drugs, violence and human trafficking. I don’t give a hoot about protecting these illegal criminals, and if it steps on some toes, so be it.
          I am not a racist, but right is right and wrong is wrong! Obama and his cronies are loving this, and for them, it will be a no win proposition. If the feds had done their job from the git-go we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. There isn’t an easy way out of the probelem. Amnesty to all? NOT! Round em up and ship em out, that’s a solution I can live with.
          Kudos to Arizona for taking the bull by the cahones and squeezing tight.

  • Bob Plugh

    >Wake up people, illegal immigration is a world wide problem!..law or
    >no law, undocumented individuals will be here, and when or if they
    >ever get caught, guess what, they’ll be back in 2 weeks and they’ll
    >keep coming back. What we need is a system that works…NATIONWIDE.
    >Forcing undocumented families and individuals to go into hiding is not
    >going to help anyone

    First, STOP calling them “undocumented” – call a spade a spade – they are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS… The KEY word is ILLEGAL.

    This person raises a good point. I suggest a solution. The first time an illegal is deported, a copy of his DNA, fingerprints, and retinal scan is done. If the same person is caught again, he gets put into JAIL and is forced to do HARD LABOR (and I mean USEFUL hard labor!!!) for 1 year – no possibility of parole. The 2nd time this occurs, the sentence is 5 years – no possibility of parole. The 3rd time this occurs, the sentence is LIFE – no possibility of parole.

    This way, we WILL get useful work from them, and they will get what they want – a roof over their head and food.

    bp

    • HFlashman

      And those who BREAK THE LAW AND ARE ILLEGAL in employing undocumented workers? What would you do with those folks? They are the ones who are creating this problem…they are the ones enticing illegal immigration, they are the ones who are the problem…

      Whjat would you do with those ilk? And why aren’t you asking your Senators and Congressmen to take them to task?

    • lefty here

      Of course the context of the person you copied and paste makes a good point on all that is said…unfortunately that’s not the case for you..You expect to give them life after 3 times of getting caught??!!?!? What a complete idiocy, but at least know you RIGHT WINGERS will actually be able to correctly justify that Illegal immigrants are stealing and using out Tax money …or who do you think it’s going to support them while their incarcerated?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        lefty there,
        Have you not heard of the three strike law??? Or are you ignorant as well as blind???

        • Obama supporter

          “You can imagine if you are an Hispanic American in Arizona — your great grandparents may have been there before Arizona was a state — but now suddenly if you don’t have your papers and if you took your kid for ice cream, you’re going to be harassed,” he said. “That’s not the right way to go.”-Obama

          • Jana

            Obama supporter,
            Sorry pal, its not so sudden.How long have we been a nation now? And, your analogy of great grand parents doesn’t make sense. If their great grandparents would have been here, so would they and they would be legal.
            Your analogy is all wet.

    • cherir

      Are you aware what started this need for such a law in Arizona. The fact that they have 460,000 illegals coming across their borders; that a long time resident (rancher) in Arizona was murdered by these illegals along with his dog. It goes beyond the word illegal; they are murdering people, raping women, kidnapping young girls, taking jobs, robbing, etc., etc., etc. Could it be that Mexico does not want these criminals either because it costs so much to house them so allow them to cross the borders.

      • libertytrain

        cherir – I think the problem is that most people are mostly unaffected by it or apathetic and don’t realize that they are next.

  • Bob Plugh

    >Anyone…ANYONE ..can now be stopped by Arizona law enforcement and
    >asked for their ‘papers”, asked where they’ve been, where they are
    >going, what they are doing, where they live etc etc…and if the cop
    >isn’t satisfied? They can hold you.

    LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE… Only if there is sufficient suspicion. Just like “probable cause”. The simple way to fix this would be to issue Arizona drivers licenses ONLY to people who have a right to be here. ILLEGALs should NOT be able to get drivers licenses. Then, checking ID would be easier. You have an AZ license – no problem. You don’t have a license – ok – provide ANY other type of document to prove you are NOT ILLEGAL, otherwise, you will be arrested and will have to prove that you are NOT an Illegal and be fair – give them a chance, but do NOT let them out of custody to do so – someone ELSE can get their documents – OR – send a couple of deputies with them to recover their documents.

    bp

    • JeffH

      The Arizona governor has made it very clear that “profiling” will not be tolerated. For those sheeple that believe every word that your herder speaks, why would you not believe Arizona Gov. Brewer?

      • HFlashman

        LOL … you have got to be kidding. Every cop is honest? Every cop is unbiased? Every cop is trustworthy? The good Governor is as honest as the day is long and she’s to be trusted? I suppose she’ll be in every car watching to make sure the cops are within boundaries eh?

        My gawd … so much for defending our freedoms eh? Jeesh …..

        • JeffH

          …a liberal putting words in someones mouth…now that’s a new twist…Newsflash! If you’re gonna believe your Marxist POTUS, why wouldn’t you believe an Arizona governor?

    • Time

      Bob,

      When I am driving around on Long Island – New York I get stopped and asked for my papers monthly, they have [ ” Drunk Driving stops” } all the time. That also goes on all over the US right now.

      And yet – I don’t see anyone jumping up and down over these stops.

      I get stopped when I take my Porsche for a drive twice a year across the US, if I take I 10 I get stopped in Louisiana every time for speeding, yet I am not or was I ever speeding there.
      Its just a method of making money for the small Parishes along the route. Really watch the one just past Red Stick they are real butt heads.

      • Jana

        Time,
        Yeah, their are a lot of speed traps even in Texas too. That’s what we call them. We in Texas know about Lousianna too.

  • http://www.PoliticalChristian.org Larry Miller

    I would think that those who are here legally and have done things the right way would not want to be stained by the gangs and violent behavior of those who are making them look bad. We have an incompetent national government so it falls to the states to defend themselves. Beyond this, it is a good time to remember that the states created the federal government, they are not merely administrative districts.

  • Raggs

    Does anyone here understand that this is a “crisis” created by none other than the very ones that NOW wish to control it?

    Never let a “good” crisis go to waste…Hum where have we heard that?.

    Since this is profilling the only way to eliminate law suits will be to mandate an ID system ( national ID ).. for each and every citizen.
    As I have posted on other threads… This crisis is exactly what the government wants, it will give them an excuse to pass a new law on ID.

    You people really need to understand…

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Raggs,
      So what is your answer? just let them stay and cost us billions of dollars each and every year???? That is no answer!

      • Raggs

        I didn’t say to let them stay and absorb a free ride from the tax payers…. You cannot solve this problem by going after( to prove who they are ) the citizens of this country that have done nothing wrong… This will create a “police state” and tyranny…
        Obviously the employer’s of the illegals have everything to gain with cheap labor, no insurance for the workers..

      • Marilyn

        Check out the latest CNN report about illegals and amnesty. Interesting.

  • tank 10

    At last one of the 38 states that has taken the lead!
    Now I have a place to move my family to.
    Where we can stand with others for America.
    Our Liberty For Americans, By Americans, Of Americans.
    Why, because our Fathers earned it.
    To Hell with Mexacans, If they are Illegal, Then we must
    root them out like the cancer they are on our
    Economy. They are welcome to enter the USA, But
    through Due Process. As Illegals they have no rights!!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      tank 10,
      It is not just Mexicans! We have aproximatly 10,000 illegal Irishmen here. There are hundreds of middle easterners coming over the border as well. These are people that have sworn to destroy us. I’m not afraid of any man, but I don’t tempt fate either!! We have to stop the flood of illegal flesh flowing across our border unchecked!!!

  • Marilyn

    ALL States should follow Arizona’s lead. If the United States Government will not do anything about illegals, then the States should enact their own policies. It’s time for some kind of crack-down. I just read CNN report. There is a bill out to give amnesty to illegals and the “rewards” they get from you and me (our tax dollars) is asssssnine. Oh, yes, the illegals will not have to learn English for nine years!!
    Check it out on CNN with Lou Dobbs and John Banner gives the report.

    • Raggs

      I bet CNN didn’t tell you that the amnesty is obama’s idea.
      Yes obama… he figures he will get thier votes in 2012..

      • Barb

        NO DAH!!!!

        • Raggs

          The DAH.. is for those that watch CNN.

          • Barb

            I know, just underscoring the most obvious of the obvious!

        • http://?? Joe H.

          Barb,
          If that were for the cnn worshippers, it would have to be a !hud. that’s because they’re all backwards!!!

  • Right Wing

    If you are not legally living in any country and plan to suck off the government udder…then you should not be here. That is the basic premise of the law. Racial profiling is just the biggest smoke screen leftys can use to undermine not only the constitution but the laws designed to uphold it. Sharpton/Jackson show up on the scene with cacophonous rhetoric to divert attention away from the language and intent of the law. Anyone surprised that the media has given a free pass tot he violence at such protests calling them, “mostly peaceful”. Tea Parties have shown no violence and the integrity of the group is assaulted daily.

  • Warrior

    What an idiotic excuse Hernandez gives that Hispanics will now be less likely to cooperate with police investigations. I would think one could make the counter argument that with this law in effect there may be less crime.

    • kate8

      I would be greatly surprised if they have EVER been cooperating with police investigations.

  • smercly

    Are they NUTS !!! Raises “grave Constitutional issues” for people on U.S. soil here illegally and most of all NOT U.S. CITIZENS ???? Don’t these Liars…I mean Lawyers, see the glaring disconnect. -smercly

    • kate8

      Well, we’ve got an administration, after a long line of administrations (only even more so) that has NO respect for our Constitution, our citizens, our rights, or the rule of law. Wait, except for the unconstitutional, illegal statutes they keep forcing down our throats. They plan to nail us for those.

  • Robert Chescavage

    It’s about time they start arrested these criminals and thats all they are. Go to mexico and see if they don’t arrest you,for being illegal. I think these idiots complaining about these good laws just like the publicity.

    • angel-wanna-be

      Robert C, Your damned right its time they do something!__I’m so sick of Political Correct Crap, so what, if a few people get their feelings hurt by being asked for ID. We have rules here in the US, and it’s high time we get some B*lls and enforce them!

  • Raggs

    Fill the Rio-Grande with purple people eaters…

    • Barb

      Raggs, this is a very frustrating issue for the people in the border states especially and getting to be one in all the states. In the border states however it is in their face 24/7 and it is a huge problem. They don’t speak our language even after 3 or 4 generations and they for the most part don’t work they live off of Americans very well! By they I mean the illegals. Even the legal Hispanics hate them because it is hurting them the most. If you have never lived in any of these states you have no idea what it is like, it can be very, very frustrating, and frightening, so mocking and making fun of this is not a good idea. I grew up with all this and hated it and it is much, much worse now. I agree the Arizona law has it’s problems but at least they are trying to do something and I give them credit for that! I pray that they will win the battle, it has to start somewhere!

      • kate8

        Living in California, well, nuff said. Anyway, a few years ago, while visiting one of our business vendors who employed illegals, I had a conversation with a Mexican fellow who worked there. Don’t know if he was legal, but he spoke perfect English so I assumed he was.

        We were discussing all the illegals, in any case, and he looked me in the eye and said, “We’re taking over and there is nothing you can do to stop us”.

        Don’t kid yourselves about this, folks. They plan to reclaim the territory they are taught, in Mexico, that rightfully belongs to them. And they are ammassing the numbers to do it. All this malarky about them just wanting a better life is just that. They want to turn us into Mexico, the place they “left”.

        • Palin12

          kate, do you remember Cruz Bustamante, your former Lt. Gov. belonged to a group that wanted to return Cal, Ariz, and NM back to Mexico?

          • kate8

            I surely do, Palin12. Wasn’t he busted for illegal use of campaign contributions or something?

            I hear that, especially in So Cal, there are mayors and such who belong to these groups. It’s a sad situation here.

          • JeffH

            Bustamante ran against Republican Steve Poizner in the November 2006 Insurance Commissioner election. Bustamante announced that he would not be returning insurance industry contributions to his campaign, a position criticized by Poizner and campaign ethicists. Bustamante also failed to meet a deadline to submit a campaign statement to voters. According to the Field Poll, on November 3, 2006, Bustamante trailed Poizner by 9%.[5] and actually lost to Poizner by 12% in the general election

        • http://?? Joe H.

          kate8
          I think if they try to take back the border states they might find it a bit harder than they think!!! Especially Texas!!! No slight meant to Arizona!!

    • Time

      Raggs, Ever seen the Rio Grand?
      Its more like a small stream, or a slight road bump.

      • Jana

        Time, not everywhere is it so small. But its not big enough either that it can’t be swum accross.

  • Jack

    I live in Arizona, These ignorant libturds who post here don’t know what its like for people who live along the border. This bill is just a repeat of laws already on the books. Anytime I have ever been stopped, the officer always asks for ID and I’m not brown-skinned. Why don’t you libturds ask Robert Krentz how he feels about illegals. It is not unconstitutional to keep illegals out no matter what color they are or where they’re from. Al Sharpton? Right now I wish there was a law to keep rabble rousing, blackmailing, fake ministers at home in New York where they belong. That goes for Jesse Jackson too. I hope all of you remember the Tawana Brawley false rape charges for which Al stood tall. He’ll jump on anything that is not his business.

    • Barb

      Those big mouths always crawl out from under their rocks whenever there is a huge controversy tainted with race, all they want is their ugly and I DO MEAN UGLY mugs on TV! The best thing to do is NOT watch the lamestream news, then you don’t have to see or hear those idiots!

    • Time

      Jack,

      Best of luck with old Rev Al, from Morristown New Jerrsy where he lives in a gated commuinty with homes from the low $2 million range and up. Wheres all that money come from as he has no church, no following, yet he had body guards, and as I recall his home is in about the $5 million range price tag, and who can forget his Bently Rolls.
      Anyone in the tri state area can recall his Twanna mind numbing event.
      Oh my GOD can we. What a poop loop Rev Al is.

  • Isirio Abelon

    HEY!!!, FELLOW LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, DO THE RIGHT THING. I CAME HERE IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY SO WITH YOU LEGALLY. DON’T DIS-INFRANCHISE THE FREEDOM THAT WE ALL ENJOY AND THE PEOPLE WHO ALLOWS US TO BE HERE. WHEN YOU SWEAR TO BE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, YOU SWEAR TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. PROTECTING THE CRIMINALS THAT BROKE THE LAW SHOULD BE PUNISHED. IF YOU ARE PROTECTING THESE CRIMINALS THEN YOU ARE PART OF IT. DON’T FORGET THE OLD ADAGE “DON’T BITE THE HANDS WHO FEEDS YOU” ADIOS.
    I SUPPORTS GOV. JAN BREWER, I HOPE TEXAS, CALIFORNIA AND FLORIDA WILL FOLLOW.
    ATTENTION LIBERALS, RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AND RACIAL PROFILING ARE OLD TRICKS!!! NOBODY BELIEVE THIS TECHNIQUE ANYMORE. SO STOP IT. TEACH YOUR DOG A NEW TRICKS IT MIGHT WORK. ADIOS.
    ISIRIO

  • Dougas K.

    I’ve just finished reading all the comments on this article. I must confess that I am astounded at the willingness of the socialists, (leftists,) to surrender our country to a group of felons,(ILLEGAL ALIENS, NOT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.) That the Obamanation wants to ruin this nation, I understand since he is nothing more than a non-American, anti-American, socialist, muslim who is in the process of establishing a socialist tyranny. I can understand a little Stalin wannabe, but I simply cannot conceive of someone who is supposedly an American going along with the flow. I am seriously considering moving to Arizona so that I can offer my support to the governer of that state since she appears to be the only AMERICAN governor in the United States. If I do move to Arizona, I won’t be inconvenienced because I have traveled so much to other countries that I am in the habit of carrying my passport (other countries REQUIREI was absolutely shocked when I became aware that at least one politician was willing to do something that was in the interest of REAL Americans rather than doing something detrimental to the public well-being. Don’t any of the socialists have children whose future is of interest to them, or are they all homosexuals?

  • Dougas K.

    I’ve just finished reading all the comments on this article. I must confess that I am astounded at the willingness of the socialists, (leftists,) to surrender our country to a group of felons,(ILLEGAL ALIENS, NOT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.) That the Obamanation wants to ruin this nation, I understand since he is nothing more than a non-American, anti-American, socialist, muslim, who is in the process of establishing a socialist tyranny. I can understand a little Stalin wannabe, but I simply cannot conceive of someone who is supposedly an American going along with the flow. I am seriously considering moving to Arizona so that I can offer my support to the governer of that state since she appears to be the only AMERICAN governor in the United States. If I do move to Arizona, I won’t be inconvenienced because I have traveled so much to other countries that I am in the habit of carrying my passport (other countries REQUIRE non-residents to provide documentation.) I was absolutely shocked when I became aware that at least one politician was willing to do something that was in the interest of REAL Americans rather than doing something detrimental to the public well-being. Don’t any of the socialists have children whose future is of interest to them, or are they all homosexuals?

    • angel-wanna-be

      Dougas K, Don’t worry about the Liberals on here, we beleive they’re paid shills and Union thugs, that are planted here, to rustle the Conservative cattle, for the most part we ignore them, unless we feel like playing.

  • Dougas K.

    I appreciate the advice, angel-wanna-be, but how anyone can claim to be an American and spout out such drivel, astounds me. I have known several “Union thugs” whose IQ was greater than -6 but from the comments made by the socialists on this site, I can only conclude that they are, collectively, retarded….excuse me, mentally challenged…I must be politically correct!

    • denniso

      Dougie…Hey new boy…you want to live in a police state, move to Iran or Saudi Arabia. This is America where we don’t have cops demanding ‘papers’ from anyone they please based upon so called ‘reasonable’ suspicion of individual officers. This law won’t stand and is already hurting the economy of Az. Smart and concerned people are already canceling trips and convention biz in the state, including me. Luckily, this country only has a fringe, radical and undereducated group of people like you and the Az Repubs who passed this draconian bill…I almost feel sorry for the dimwit new Az governor who signed this bill in such a rush for political gain before
      seriously studying it and it’s ramifications…she’s done.

      • Palin12

        cancelling trips? Hmmmmm, I can be in the Grand Canyon in 4 hours :-)

        • Time

          Palin -
          Would that be to have a; lets see how well denniso can fly party?

    • angel-wanna-be

      Dougas K, I hear ya dougas K, I’ve always found it fasinating how two parties such as the Repblicans and The Democrats(now taken over by the Progressives) both say they stand for America. When the view points of each are the exact opposite of one another. The Socialists need to take their rhetoric and move else where, they’re certainly not welcomed here. and thats just what they want, to negativly cause, affect and divide. We can’t let them do it.

    • JeffH

      Dougas K.. you observations are pretty accurate but the time for “political correctness” is past, the gloves are off. Arizona has made the right decision. The feds, once again, haven’t done their job and enough is enough. The border states need to enact laws that don’t impead the pursuit of illegal criminal aliens breaking federal and state laws crossing our borders.
      Sorry for the inconvienienc to all those in favor of amnesty, but it has t be that way!

      • kate8

        JeffH, you are right. I’m afraid, though, that unless Arizona and other states assert their right to state sovereignty, the feds are going to strike this law down. Then we’ll be right back where we were, only the feds will be even stronger and Americans will be angrier.

        • JeffH

          When push comes to shove, I know where my loyalties lie. It’s not with the leftist bureaucrats.

  • Raggs

    Some people just seem not to get it….
    If you want immigration reform / control… Why are you willing to loose you personel rights to do so?… Some people may not have a sence of self-preservation… If Arizona is allowed to ask for your papers while you are on a street or in a car, what is going to stop them from going door to door and demanding your papers?

    • denniso

      Raggs, again you’re right…how can so called ‘constitutionalists’ be falling for this crap? If it’s legal to demand papers of someone on the street it could certainly extend to police knocking on doors or going into any business and arresting everyone who can’t produce the proper parers…workers and bosses alike.
      This fearmongering is how police states come about…whip up a frenzy among the populace and then push unconstitutional and draconian laws that satisfied the mob that has been created, and that invade the privacy of ALL Americans…it’s a reactionary response to a problem that needs smart solutions and thought. It’s hard to believe we’ve come to this…

      • Warrior

        You’re right, imagine police setting up road blocks to have seat belt checks! Did someone invent a profile for glassy eyed drivers yet? I may have missed that.

        • Time

          Now thats funny!

    • JLC

      Raggs, just what is so insufferable about being asked to show some ID? I have to do that nearly every time that I cash a check — sometimes, even at my own bank. I can’t recall a time that there hasn’t been some occasion that I was required to show ID, and I’ll give odds that I am older than you are.

  • Norman

    The Libers say do nothing. Let the illegals rape, pillage and kidnap our country. This is a no brainer. I applaud Arizona for their action and for their leadership. Stop the illegal drugs and flow of un educated thugs into this nation. WHY LET THE REST OF THE WORLD DRAG US DOWN to their level. Let’s try to keep our living standards as high as possible in spite of Obama and the Dems. They just want to widen “the gap”. Thank you Arizona.

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    Of course Arizona is doing the right thing, and all other states should do likewise – given that the democraps in Washington are not doing the job of enforcing the law or protecting our borders. Arizona sis doing what the BHO administration, the loser Napolitano, et al, are failing to do. I’ve also heard that Rev. Al Sharpton wants to march out to Arizona to protest their new law, even if he gets arrested for civil disobedience!! It should be no surprise that Al Sharpton is ranting over this. Since it is not African-Americans being targeted by Arizona law, why should Sharpton care?? I wonder if Sharpton would still oppose this law if he went to Arizona and were assaulted by an illegal alien?? Or suppose someone tried to assault (or worse) Sharpton here in New York, or anywhere else for that matter. If the police saved his life by using deadly force on the assailant, would Sharpton still hate the police?? BTW, where was Al Sharpton when that black conservative was assaulted by the union thugs at that anti-health care rally?? It’s obvious that Sharpton is not motivated by race, but rather by the leftwing anti-American agenda of the socialist Democrap party!!!! ARIZONA IS RIGHT!!!!

    • kate8

      Sharpton is just another front man for the socialist democrats. He hops on any issue that they can construe as being “racist”, and gets to live the high-life for doing it. He’s another empty shill.

  • http://none better safe than sorry

    the people that are crossing our borders illegally better be glad i’m not running the border operation because my orders would be any body and i mean anybody that tried to come acroos that line in the sand would be to shoot and shoot to kill with all the radical islamists extremists wanting to do any kind of damage to america that they can do and we never know when one of these people that are crossing the border has a suitcase nuke a dirty bomb chemical or biological weapons of mass destruction they could even infect themselves with anthrax or smallpox or even the bubonic plague thinking that killing the infidels (us) it’s gonna get them 72 virgins in heaven.speaking of that ridiculous belief would some one please tell me how and why something that is against their religion here on earth would be allowed to take place in heaven and why is it that you never hear of any of the leaders strapping a bomb to themselves i guess they’d rather live with that old ugly woman than to get 72 virgins.so i think i have made my case that we cannot afford to continually allow illegals to come here at will.it’s time to lock and load point the barrel and pull the trigger.

    • denniso

      I take it from your idiotic comment that you were in favor of the Berlin wall and the police state in East Germany and the border guards shooting to kill?

      • libertytrain

        I don’t see the same correlation at all – I do recall the East Germans were shot and killed by their guards. No one was trying to get in, only out.

        • denniso

          I’m talking about the idea of border walls and guards and citizenship papers in general…not which direction the people are going. Have you stopped to consider that w/ all this fear mongering about ‘illegals’ and the border that our very freedom is being hijacked? Now we need a passport, at about $100, just to leave our country…if we’re hiking or exploring along the border now we can’t walk across because of the wall..a wall has the ability to stop movement both directions, doesn’t it? Now we want to give up our right to privacy in the country so that the cops can be sure to check anyone they want to for citizenship…now that’s big brother and near fascism.

      • William Nealey

        denniso I take it from your IDIOTIC statemen. you dont even know what you are talking about. you are like so many other STUPID libs tou prattle on just to be running off at the mouth,

      • Time

        Well Denniso,
        No I am not; but you are for sure as you love the idea of the Marxist state.

    • William Nealey

      I like your thinking,

  • JeffH

    Sheriff Joe Arpaio needs you assistance and help for re-election.
    Anybody that can donate, even $1.00, should help this great American protect American soil from the illegal criminals that threaten American citizens every day, 24/7.

    If you care and are able to help;
    send any donation to:
    “Re-elect Joe Arpaio 2010″
    Sheriff Joe Arpaio
    PO Boc 5066
    Scottsdale, AZ 85261

  • http://Soverenty!Freedom! Blondi 2

    THIS IS THE PROGRESSIVE WAY IN THE HAND BOOK. SAUL ALINSKEY THAT IS ! THE BOOK SAYS TO PUT SO MANY SOCIAL PROGRAMS ON TO THE GOVERNMENT AND TAX PAYERS THAT IT COLLAPSES UUNDER ITS’ OWN WEIGHT! WE CAN’T KEEP PAYING FOR ALL THE ILLEGALS FOOD, EDUCATION ,HOUSING AND SO CALLED SOCIAL SECURITY AND TAXES!THE PROGRESSIVES IN OUR SCHOOLS HAVE INDOCTRINATED OUR CHILDREN TO BE COMMUNISTS AND AMERICAN HATERS! THE SOCIAL SECURITY IS BROKE BECAUSE OUR GOVERNMENT SPENT THE MONEY ON OTHER PROJECTS INSTEAD OF KEEPING IT FOR SOCIAL SECURITY.tHE MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN A SAVINGS ACCOUNT AND COVERED ALOT OF THE LOSSES BY INTEREST! BUT THEY STOLE IT FROM THE PEOPLE! THE ABORTED CHILDREN ARE BEING REPLACED BY ILLEGAL ALIENS WHEN OUR GOVERNMENT TELLS US THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE ON THE PLANET ALREADY!THEY KNOW THAT MEXICANS HAVE MORE CHILDREN THAN ANY RACE IN AMERICA! SO HOW CAN THIS MAKE SENSE?THEY WANT PEOPLE WHO DON’T KNOW THE CONSTITUTION AND DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE AND LOVE AMERICA,SO THEY CAN TELL THEM ANYTHING AND THEY WILL BELIEVE IT.tHEY HAVEN’T TAUGHT OUR CHILDREN OUR TRUE HISTORY,BUT HAVE INDOCTRINATED THEM INSTEAD! JUST LOOK AT HOW OUR CHILDREN ARE ACTING A THE COLLEGES!!!!!! IF YOU DON’T THINK THE WAY THEY DO THEN THEY DON’T LET YOU SAY ANYTHING!!!!! THAT IS NOT FREE SPEECH,NOR IS IT AMERICAN!!THEY DON’T HAVE IDEA ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION OR THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE! I BET IF YOU DID A SURVEY OF SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS OR EVEN SENIOR COLLEGE STUDENTS THAT THEY WOULDN’TKNOW WHAT WAS IN IT!THE DEMOCRATS WANT THE YOUNG BRAINWASHED,THE ILLEGALS AND THE ORGINAZATIONS OF SOCIALIST TO DO ALL THE VOTING BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CAN’T STOP THE BELIEFS OF TRUE AMERICAN LOVING,CONSTITUTION,DECLARATION LOVING PEOPLE TO WANT WHAT THEY ARE DOING! THEY ARE PUTTING THIS NATION INTO SLAVERY AND THEY WANT A WORLD GOVERNMENT ,THEY DON’T EVEN WANT AN AMERICA!!!!!!! BUT THESE KIDS IN HIGH SCHOOL AND COLLEGE ARE TOO LAZY TO RESEARCH THE FACTS ON THEIR OWN.THEY JUST LET THE OBAMA AND MEDIA TELLTHEM WHAT TO THINK ALONG WITH THEIR PROGRESSIVE TEACHERSAND PROFESSORS! HITLER AND STALIN AND MAO WERE PROGRESSIVES,NOT TO FORGET CASTRO!!!! BOY WERE THEY A GOOD BUNCH OF GUYS.SO WHY DID SO MANY OF THEIR OWN PEOPLE RISK DEATH TO GET TO AMERICA!!!LAND OF THE FREEEEE AND USED TO BE HOME OF THE BRAVE!!!!!I AM AFRAID IT ISN’T GOING TO BE FREE OR BRAVE ENOUGH ANYMORE!!!THE GREATEST NATION OF THE WORLD DIDN’T LAST BUT 230 YEARS!!!WHAT A SHAME!!!

    • denniso

      I’m afraid to tell you this but you’re a bit off message and apparently having a major meltdown…

      • William Nealey

        denniso you have had a major breakdown. its called left wing STUPID liberalistic thinking,

        • Michael J.

          William,
          It’s not a breakdown, she’s probably pregnant. Chaos Factor!

    • Raggs

      Yes and that is the point I have been making…

      They want a “crisis”… it is thier way of looking around the constitution… I understand immigration is a problem, however a facist resolution is not what we need..

    • kate8

      The thing is, this is exactly what’s happening, Blondi. They are collapsing the system, and they’ve been upfront about it, except no one’s been listenting.

      The ignorant recipients of entitlements largely believe that they money they get comes from some magic, bottomless supply, or Obama’s personal stash. This is the mentality of the left which they’ve fostered to their advantage. All these libs are “useful idiots” and they’re too stupid to know they’re being used.

  • Norman

    I was beginning to wonder if anyone would take action. Obviously Bush didn’t care about the border. He was ashole buddies with Vicente Fox. Jeb Bush married a Mexican. Get the picture. Obama doesn’t know where our southern border is.It’s a little late for 22,000 dead on the border. More than US troops killed in Iraq. America better wake up. Place machine gun nest randomly along our border. I’m not saying kill anyone, But I know first hand, afew pops in the direction of the illegals is one helluva deterent. Fifty calibers work real good for this. Operated by MEN with spines.

    • William Nealey

      AMEN NORM.

  • American Mom

    I think the Gov. should avoid any problems or challenges of race questions by saying that the policemen now have the right to question every citzen within their State’s borders and ask everyone to carry ID at all times. If I travel to another country I realize that I can at any time be asked to produce my passport or papers so there should not be any issue for vistors or citzens alike to all share the responsibility in this time of crisis to show ID. This would end the questions about race. Stop everyone, ask everyone for ID, kick out and deport any person here illegally. Legal immigration is wonderful and a part of our beloved nation, ILLEGALS ARE BREAKING THE LAWS OF OUR COUNTRY. All citzens should be ready to show ID at anytime to any law enforcement.

    • denniso

      I’m glad you don’t belong to my party…you actually want more of a police state than we already have…WOW!!!!

    • TIME

      American Mom,
      The law of the United States is that all adults must have an ID on you at all times. Its obvious that we take that for granted, and we don’t go for a swim or a run with our ID’s etc.

      Now – dennisO – your question is asked and answered. Its the LAW of the land.
      But what would you know of the law, when your living in la – la land.

      It used to be there is no reason to be ignorant of the law, thats pre 1913, now its easy to understand why so many don’t have a clue.

      The laws are no longer whats in the Constitution and bill of rights.

      Its all CASE LAW, from 1913 on. Thus no one knows what the laws are now, also the reason you need a lawyer for just about everything to figure out what is and whats not legal.
      Also keep in mind that lawyers used to be low B and C students, as you really didn’t need one pre 1913, the law was cut and dry there were no gray areas.

      Now its all gray mud and a whim.

      • kate8

        So, what happens if we are stopped and aren’t carrying any ID?

        • JeffH

          I guess we’ll have to find out.

        • Time

          Kate,
          Are you asking about if you don’t have your DL on you?

          If so if your a US citizen with a DL, you have 30 days to bring your
          DL to the Court and prove that you have said DL.
          More than likly you will also get a fine, of a few bucks.

          • denniso

            Driving a car is a privilege,not a constitutional right. Driving is restricted and licensed to those who can see well enough,can physically do it, and meet safety requirements. Every one does not drive,no one forces you to own or drive a car and then force you to have the proper papers.
            There is no comparison between a drivers license and having to have citizenship papers in your possession at all times.

          • denniso

            Time is SO wrong…the law does NOT state that all citizens have to always carry ID. The only time that’s true is driving a car, you have to have a drivers license, but not proof of citizenship. Big difference..

  • Norman

    Put yourself in the place of homeowners and ranchers along our southern borders. Their lives are in danger everyday. Think about going out to feed cattle and confronting a band of illegals packing guns and drugs. You won’t survive. This is like something out of a cheap novel. This is America and our borders need to be defended. Period. No if ands or buts. End of discussion.Let’s ALL do everthing in our power to support Arizona’s efforts.

    • Barb

      I agree we have to start somewhere and Arizona had the guts to do it! If I were to be pulled over by a cop because of how I look so what? I lose a few minutes out of my day, big whup! I have no problem with that and I assure you if I’m down in Arizona I would be pulled over, just because of my hair color and brown eyes! I’m even darker than my best friend also from New Mexico who is Hispanic, she wouldn’t be pulled over as quickly as me but I don’t consider that against my Constitutional rights, it’s just an inconvenience in order to get the job done. DEAL Libs.! Your president is the one taking all our Constitutional rights away you just can’t see the difference can you?

      • American Liberal

        Barb.. The very law your supporting takes away someones rights…you just don’t care as long as it’s not yours…that law violates a Mexican Americans ( born here) rights… Your very ignorant as well as racist..

      • kate8

        That’s a slippery slope, Barb, and let’s not overreact here. Being able to move about freely without carrying “papers” has been what has set us apart from more tyrannical governments. While I’m sure his is coming in some form under this administration, I think we need to fight against it. Those at the top are using this issue to bring about just that.

        Law enforcement can work without going to this extreme. If those here illegally feel enough pressure, they’ll self-deport, as has been already demonstrated in the past. I don’t think it’s wise to do away with “probable cause”, as that will endanger all of us.

        • Barb

          I agree and if you guys have read my posts through out all these I have stated that I have a problem with this part of the law. Racial profiling is NOT the answer but at least they are doing something and if the governor says it’s not going to happen all the better. My point was that a little inconvenience to get a bunch of bad guys out of our country doesn’t seem all that bad and it wouldn’t be just Mexican Americans inconvenienced either. There is no good solution here except to close the borders down completely and have the military lay down the law along the river, that isn’t going to happen! To you Amlib just because I think I look like a Mexican that makes me racist? OK! I grew up with them I dearly love them they are wonderful people, it’s the ILLEGALS that I have trouble with not the race, once again you are showing you utter stupidity. Reread what I wrote, I said I wouldn’t mind and she wouldn’t be pulled over as much, I’m darker than she is! Not all Hispanics are brown! The point is the illegals are NOT wanted in this country and that is by all Americans with working brains including Hispanic Americans! If Arizona can work this out I say more power to them and I hope other states do the same and soon! Oh yeah, once again Amlib you showed your true stripes, you’ll never learn!

          • Right Wing

            The law clearly states that racial profiling is not acceptable and is no reason to check for legal status. The law is promulgated under federal law which requires legal citizen to reside in the US LEGALLY. There is a simple reason for this requirement and it is so everyone enjoying the benefits of living the American life can be counted on to pay taxes so the cost of the American life is adequately funded. The cold hard fact is that illegals are not subject to the laws of the US and create discord when they earn the same benefits without the government exacting one ounce of flesh as they do from hard working American taxpaying citizens.

            This not about race but about equality of vested interest in OUR country. My great grandparents pledged an oath…why does any American think it is wrong to do so today?

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Barb,
            I think if you research a little you will find that it is law that you are required to carry identification with you anytime you are out of your residence. If you are stopped for any reason and can’t produce identification, you can be detained until your identity can be asertained!! this is where the real problem with identity theft comes into play. Someone steals your identity and commits a crime. you are stopped for a broken tail light, and there is a warrant for your arrest. You could be detained for quite awhile before you can prove you didn’t commit the crime. Since “you” ran before, bail could be legally denied!!! This is what this hoard is costing us non-monitarily!!

  • lae

    It stands to reason that the illegal immigrants would be against this new law, but for the life of me, I can’t understand why anyone who is here legally would object to proving that. Everyone says they want the border mess cleaned up; yet when a solution is offered, too many cry “foul.” Let’s just do what we have to do to seal up the border and then admit immigrants through a legal process, so we know who they are, what they are, where they come from and what their goals are once admitted, if admitted.

    • denniso

      Lae…because, clueless, it violates the constitution!! The very document that you rightwingers think is divine and that you scream Obama is abusing. Can’t you think just a little bit and not so blatantly show your ignorance and hypocrisy?

  • American Liberal

    For the people like Kate who are ” challenged “… It’s not the constitutionality of the illegal immigrants that’s in question…. It’s about the rights of the Mexican Americans that were born here in America….you have the 4th amendment right to walk down the street, be in a car,,, anything and anyplace and not be ask to prove where you were born.. For people who made such a stink about losing your rights about a healthcare bill you’ve just proven you don’t care about anybodys right…I already knew you were just opposed to Obama and it had nothing at all to do with rights… Well, Mexican Americans have as much right to protection by that constitution as you do… If anything it also proves their are a lot of rightwing Racist in this country….and what makes you think this new law will work when all the other laws didn’t ?

    • Time

      Nano Wit,

      So where is it you live in a bubble, as you don’t get out much thats for bloody sure from your mindless post time after time day after day.

      But thanks for playing, What buffoon you can be.
      Please – Try again next week when your prize will be an all paid trip to the nut house.

  • chuck b

    the dem’s are screaming because of the votes they will be losing. another thing, take a trip across the border, take an american flag with you and taunt the federal’troops and policia with the flag, call them pigs! throw bottles and rocks. i’m sure you have civil rights there and they will just ignore you. its about time someone stands up against this invasion, the dem’s will give the country away for a vote, the funny part, when the immigrants get enough voting power, the dem’s are out the window. viva zapata!

    • denniso

      Don’t be so ignorant…we already have all the votes we need. Who won the last 2 national elections? And your comment is utterly childish and stupid…think!!

      • Warrior

        Wasn’t that your hero over the weekend imploring Blacks, Latino’s and Women to come to the aid of the cause again in 2010. Doesn’t sound to me like the confidence level is very high.

        • Warrior

          Oh yea and how about that piece of work Gutierrez threatening O with withholding hispanic votes if he doesn’t address immigration (amnesty)?

      • JeffH

        …continue to ride the Unicorn over the Rainbow…it’s such a warm feeling to not have to think…
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtxqtBq0uVw

        • JeffH

          TheNRSC — March 31, 2010 — No mandatory health care, trillions of new jobs, and low-emission unicorns. President Obama is the greatest president ever.

    • American Liberal

      Chuckie… I got to Mexico at least twice a year… Never been mistreated , never had a problem with the police, and the Mexican nationals have always been kind and friendly…. Maybe you go down there with a big mouthed superior American rightwing attitude that gives us a bad name notnpnly in Mexico and south America but also Europe .. Maybe if you’d leave your rightwing attitude at the border you would need to be afraid of everybody and every place… Your a guest in their country.. Act like one..

      • kate8

        Return for a visit, huh?

        • kate8

          I meant to say, return for a visit home.

          • Dax

            I think you’re right Kate8.
            UnAmerican Liberal is a Mexican National. He just comes up here every month to collect his welfare check and his monthly check from A.C.O.R.N.

          • Claire

            Sorry, I have to laugh. I have never been to Mexico and don’t plan on going ..ever. I have a lot of friends that have traveled to Mexico and they end up with Montezuma’s Revenge. Sicker than the dickens. Nope, that is not for me.

          • Palin12

            I’ve been to Tijuana a couple of times. It was fun. It’s funny, when I walked past a pharmacy, these guys on the street come up and ask if you need anything in the pharmacia, as if I can’t walk another 10 feet to enter it myself even if i wanted anything.

  • American Liberal

    I didn’t even get into how this New Law in Arizona expands the federal governments power and will lead to more taxes to pay for more enforcement… The law won’t pass the 1st constitutional test in court anyway…, I just heard John McCain say.. The Obama administration has ignored illegal immigration…. What a hypocrital idiot…. This old fool is senile and belongs in a rest home… No wonder you rightys don’t like him…… He just went right on past the point that he Along with the Bush administration did nothing at all for 8 years….Reagan took the easy way out… He just granted the illegals Amnesty..

  • http://google mathilda musgrove

    I just want to say that Arizona had to do something about illegals. Wish TEXAS would do something also. I am tired of my paycheck going to illegals thru our taxes and such. You are breaking our nation.
    If you want to be part of this great nation then come here the correct way. It is a slap in the face for people that come here legally to see what is becoming OF our country. Don’t know how long this old lady will be great because of the way our goverment is going, trying to get a world power,is wrong.
    US TEA PARTY PEOPLE, which I belong to, will fight to the end to keep her great and KEEP OUR CONSTITUTION, AND OUR RIGHTS, AND OUR FREEDOM, and our PERSONAL LIBERTIES. WE ARE NOT LAYING DOWN SO OTHER COUNTRIES CAN TAKE OVER OUR LADY AMERICA.
    You want to be here then get a green card and work and make your paycheck just like the rest of us. The ones that come here illegally is up to no good.
    THOSE ARE THE THE ONES THAT NEED TO GET TAKEN DOWN. I want to add, it seems I hear more people wanting to move to Arizona lately, than there because they think it will be a better place to live in the long run. More protection and quality of living would be better.
    The ones that are leaving are the ones that should have never been there in the first place. They need to go to Chicago, there they can lead the life they want. Corrupt goverment.

  • chuck b

    denniso

    where do you think all those votes came from??? acorn? illegal’s, dead peopple, of course some of the demo’s are walking dead. you may not get a lot of illegal votes out of arizona this year. so look out for an upset.

  • whatnextnow

    It’s ok for those illegal criminals to come here illegally and kill, steal, rape, kill animals, Protest violently, and the Damn Present Government and Obama do nothing about it. But they say all kind of nasty things about the tea party when they protest his crooked laws peacefully. The country Needs to Help Arizona, Texas and California, and we need to vote these crooks out of office, they are damaging this country beyond comprehension. Time for Obama and Democrats to go.
    You Damn Government you are suppose to be doing you job and protecting the people.

    • kate8

      That’s right. Who in government is standing up for American citizens who are being threatened, maimed and murdered by this invasion? This is so typical of the left – stand up for those who break our laws and care not one whit for our own people. The left ALWAYS sides with criminals.

      One of the very few REAL duties of the federal government is to “protects us from all enemies, foreign and domestic”. Except that now we have both foreign and domestic enemies running our government.

      • TIME

        Kate,
        You are on 100% target with your statment.

        Strange how our congress and senate let alone wealthy democrats who hire illegals to do thier yard work, clean their homes, and care for their children work in thier business’s, to save money.

        You bone heads that think thats not the case; wake up.
        New York City, LA, Frisco, Portland, the Windy City, Alanta, Dallas they are all full of this going on daily, as in all the time.

        I have yet to meet a single wealthy democrat thats not in this game up to their ears.

        • kate8

          You are so right, TIME.

          The other thing I would like to know is, where do illegal aliens get the right to block traffic and generally shut down our cities in order to stage a protest? THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS HERE.

          Can’t you just see Americans being able to gather and protest in Mexico, or any other country? It’s insane! We’ve got to be the only place that lets those here in violation of our laws have free reign to inconvenience and even terrorize our citizens.

          This whole world is upside down.

  • chuck b

    correction: people not peopple

  • chuck b

    where in the constitution does it say it is illegal to profile? if a bank is held up by two white guys, should the police detain and question only white people? in the other hand if the bank is held up by two mexican’s should the police question and detain mostly mexican suspects? or should they throw in a a percentage of blacks and white to be fair? what a joke!, these liberal civil rights organizations are all left wing and communistic. they are breaking our will to defend our country by using these type of tactic’s and the fools are falling at their feet. we should round up all the illegals and head them for the interior of mexico or country of origin, if they return, garantee them a prison sentence,
    most of the mexican org’s. such as “la raza” are planning to use the voting power we offer all “citizens” to annex parts of the south western u.s. back to mexico. this is their goal and the politicians are afraid to counter them, fear of losing the latino vote. we either put a stop to it now or we lose our country, barry is doing his bit to help them along.

  • American Liberal

    Barb… Isn’t that amazing that you just happen to have a brown Mexican American friend that doesn’t mind giving up her rights( 4th amendment)… I’m still waiting for you to tell us which Rights president Obama took from you…

    • Barb

      THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE OUR OWN INSURANCE, MEDICAL CARE, DOCTORS, HOSPITALS, THE RIGHT TO DECIDE FOR OURSELVES WHEN WE WILL DIE NOT THE GOVERNMENT. THE RIGHT NOT TO HAVE TO FUND ABORTIONS-THE MURDER OF INNOCENT BABIES. THE RIGHT TO LIVE WITHOUT FEAR, THE RIGHT TO INVEST AND NOT WORRY THAT OUR MONEY WILL BE LOST TO UMPTEEN UNLAWFUL TAXES. THE RIGHT TO LIFE LIBERTY AND FREEDOM. YOU IGNORANT SON OF A B….! NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND??? YOU ARE THE BRAINLESS, KOOLAID DRINKING, DRUGGED OUT STUPID IDIOT RACIST NOT ME! GO TELL YOUR BOSS YOU LOST AGAIN IF YOU HAVE THE BALLS TO!

  • American Liberal

    Barb… What Gall and stupidity you have… In the same paragraph you said you had a” friend” that didn’t mind giving up her rights…. Then complained President Obamas taking your right… Talk about stupid..

    • TIME

      Ok Nano Wit,
      Perhaps if its posted in a way your smooth gray matter can grasp it.

      Lets say you leave your home and go to work, you lock your door,
      are you with me so far?

      You work all day long and then you go home, but when you get home there are twenty five people you don’t know in your home.

      They are not just in your home, they are using your stuff, they also have taken your money out of your bank account as they were broke and needed cash.

      Plus they have been driving your 1963 Corvette around and rather than putting in gas they used water, after all they are broke.

      They also have eaten all your food, are in your suits, have taken all your items in the house that they could sell to a PAWN shop and sold them for cash – keep in mind they are broke.

      Still with me Nano?

      Plus when you walk in and say something, they have YOUR GUNS and then beat the crap out of you and shoot you with your own guns, toss your butt in a hole in the back yard.
      Then live in your home until when ever as your dead.

      Would you be angry?

      Now if you can be honest with your answer, ok.

      • kate8

        TIME, you forgot to mention that they are now using your ID and living as you!

        Excellent post, although AL won’t get it. He’s just not capable of rational thinking and, besides, he’s paid to be idiotic.

    • Barb

      I ANSWERED THIS ONE FOR YOU TOO IDIOT!!

  • American Liberal

    Of course rightwingers don’t mind people of color or nonwhite ethnic people losing right….
    Just as long as our president doesn’t try and give us Healthcare…

    • TIME

      Ok Nano Wit,
      Lets see you think its ok for the BarryO’s gang of thugs to pass the HCR bill of what will 1st off will require you to show a Picture ID of yourself, PLUS Proof of your being Insured.
      {By the way if you don’t you will be fined and jailed,}
      yet thats not a {POLICE STATE} idea in your bent little mind.

      But to ask a person that is here “ILLEGALLY” note the word that states the act is “CRIMINAL” to start with.

      But IN YOUR TWISTED LITTLE MIND – to ask such a person for Proof of Citizenship is hard for you to grasp.

      Well Bubba, I lived in AZ for a period of time the 1980′s, when I wanted to get a job, I was asked for a “Birth Cirtificate”, not a certificate of live birth, plus {two forms of Photo ID,} as in a Passport and a DL.
      I also had to be finger printed and a full backround check run, as well a full Credit Check,

      Strange I didn’t mind that at all, but then again perhaps the state of AZ saw that was darker than most folks even with my at the time long as in past my shoulders – dirty blond hair, by the way I pass for white 98% of the time.
      You wouldn’t know I had any Black in me unless I told you so – as my nose that used to give me away was broken in a car crash in London in 1976, and was rebuilt so I have a more white looking nose now.

  • chuck b

    amer lib

    its quite obvious you are nothing but a juvenile delinquent. so you go to mexico twice a year, big deal. i lived in mexico for 10 years so don’t tell me what its like. i have traveled to every country on the east coast of so. america, and i wouldn’t be afraid to bet you haven’t visited farther into mexico than the first house of ill repute! so go back to your classroom and dream some more on your dummy dust.

  • proud lefty

    Reading through these posts all I can imagine is 12 million illegal immigrants tying up the legal system. Do you want all these people in jails? (I mean since they have the right as human beings to a fair trial, or have you forgotten that too?) Even if we they end up in jail, they’ll be out on immigration bonds, and that people that don’t bond out WE”LL support with taxpayer money. We need a system that works, and jailing them and backing up our court system, and inhumanly separating families is not the way to do it…

  • Chaos Factor

    Exactly… If Obama had sponcered this Arizona bill all these republicans and rightys would say…. Tyranny, he’s taking our rights and expanding the government.. these rightys are just anti color… And anti Obama… This president has more to deal with than any president I can remember and the rightwing wants to do all they can to make him fail…they would happily watch our country fail if it meant the president fails..

    • JeffH

      Chaos Factor, yeah I want his socialist policies to continue to fail! But I want failure so that America remains free and can succeed and once again be the proud leader of strength, hope and freedom to the rest of world.

      You and I know that would never be something your sheeple herder would do, it doesn’t fit his agenda, so don’t try that gimmick on the well informed here.

    • marvin

      Chaos factor, for like of any thing better to say bull sh-t wake up and read whatyou are posting just cauce we don,t agree with obama is not to say we want him to fail just some of his stuped policys that will bankrup us as if that is not possable a little math 2+2 is four for all but a liberal like you and obama then 2+2 can be forty

  • Ted Davis

    I hope that President Obama does not go to Arizona, He could be arrested for not being a citizen!!!!!!

    • kate8

      Good one, Ted!

      The lefty’s have absolutely no problem with illegals being here. After all, they even put one in the WH.

    • TIME

      Ted,

      Thanks I needed a good laugh today.

    • http://PERSONALLIBERTYDIGEST ANDREA66

      A REAL GOOD ONE!

  • derVenerschnitzel

    Quotas have “grave constitutional issues.” Racism is already on the books.
    The issue here are the law breaking “illegals.” Is it a law or not? Let’s round em up! Just for the record, we do not owe these criminals jack…

  • marvin

    i even sent the gov of arizona a e mail and thanked her for signing the immigration bill in to law and i allso sent a e mail to my rep in congress and ask why a rep of congress from illinois would be going to arizona to speak to the illegals at tax payer expence when he was elected by the people of illinois to serv them not arizona but then thats were race enters in he is hispanish like obama and his beer gate but i forget must be my age only white people are racist i would never say a black or brown man is a racist

  • left is better

    What about all the taxes illegals dont claim back?…The funds are just sitting there…Hello? they dont have a right to their hard earned money at the end of the year…stop whinning how you are supporting them on your Tax money when they dont even get to claim their own… What you are supporting is American Citizens on walefare…that’s all.
    Dont know if or when this situation is ever going to get solved amicably…However, for all you Obama bashers out there all I have to say is Thank God for Obama …heres some reasons why:

    He’s Democrat

    He’s progressive

    He’s bright and articulate

    He possesses a commanding “presidential” presence

    He has 10 years legislative congressional experience

    He’s a Christian

    He’s a family man

    He’s not Bush or McCain

    • JeffH

      …you forgot that he is a radical Marxist/socialist/communist whose presidency is being manipulated by his “ghost” handlers.
      That is why I’m glad that Americans are realizing what a fraud he is and what a fraud our elected representatives have been.
      The Democrats continue to showcase their weaknesses for all Americans to see.

    • Warrior

      Well, I guess 3 outta 10 ain’t that bad then.

    • marvin

      so left is better what about the tax illegal pay what part of ILLEGAL do you not understand if they were not ILLEGAL OPPOSED to being LEGAL as per the law you do know what the word LAW is ,that is being lawful as the opposite of lawless so by you way of thinking i rob a bank put the money in a savings account it is my money right, no matter i broke the LAW to get the money ,IT IS ILLEGAL TO BE HERE IN THIS COUNTRY UNDOCUMENTED, THEIR FOR YOU ARE ILLEGAL AND HAVE NO RIGHTS AND AS FOR HIS HIGHNESS OBAMA YOU FORGOT HIS BLACKNESS HIS GREATNESS AND HIS ABILITY TO OPEM MOUTH AND INSERT FOOT AND AS FOR THE BLACKNESS THAT WAS NOT ME IT WAS A LIBERAL OBAMA LOVER LIKE YOU THAT POSTED THAT

    • angel-wanna-be

      Left is better__Obama had 151 days in the SENATE, before SOROS bought his ticket, to the Presidency, He’s a wet behind the ears KID!

  • American Liberal

    If those employers hiring the illegals had Union companys their wouldn’t be illegals working there…. But you won’t hear these rightys condem the employers hiring illegal…. They know the majority are republicans… So it makes them happier to trample allover the rights of American born minoritys…

    • Warrior

      Why do we have to continually refer to these people as illegals? After all they’re really just Phroggers! AMLIB, do you think there are any Latino business people who hire Phroggers?

      If the claim from the left is that there is a major financial contribution to our economy from Phroggers, that must also mean that some of them must be union because the majority of union members pay income taxes because their earnings are usually above the level of the other 48% of the population that does not. Boy, this hole subject just gets so complicated.

    • JeffH

      Song, song of the sheeple
      never will convince the American people

      liberals like to show their hate
      in support of the promise to fill their plate
      nothing in the world could ever be free
      not even health care for you or me

      Song, song of the sheeple
      never will convince the American people

      Obama has studied Alinsky and Ayers
      rules for radicals and muslim prayers
      the words from his mouth ring truth no more
      he’s a Marxist believer deep in his core

      Song, song of the sheeple
      never will convince the American people

      government growth and government control
      these websites are filled with his government trolls
      if we lose in November we’re pretty well done
      hang on to your money and cling to your guns

      Song, song of the sheeple
      never will convince the American people

      pride in America is what we say
      we want a free market not government pay
      so praise ole glory and the red white and blue
      lets show our pride, take back America too

      Song, song of the sheeple
      never will convince the American people
      Song, song of the sheeple
      never will convince the American people

      Glory glory hallelujah the truth keeps marching on

      • kate8

        Wow, JeffH! That’s great! Did you write it?

        • JeffH

          kate8, every word…it was pretty easy, thanks

          • Warrior

            Ok, next time I want to see this written in espanol!

          • JeffH

            no comprende espana?

          • JLC

            Guerrero,(That’s Spanish for Warrior) you mispelled Español !

          • Warrior

            I couldn’t find the little do hickey to place over the n.

          • JLC

            An object lesson, Warrior. It’s not a “do hickey.” It is a tilde. And you don’t “put it over the n.” ñ is completely different letter called “eñe” (pronounced “enyay”) and it is on your keyboard, if you know what to look for. That is only one of many things that you don’t know!

          • JeffH

            JLC, I work off a laptop and don’t have the “enye” on my keys, that I can see anyways. There is the ~ key though.

          • JLC

            Hi Jeff — I don’t know whether or not this will work on a laptop. I don’t use one. I’ll tell how it is done on a standard keyboard, if that will help. Warrior can look over your shoulder, if he wants — I was a little grumpier with him — or her — than I should have been.
            First: Make sure that your Number Lock (Num Lock) is on. The light will be lit. Then, hold down the Alt key (one on each side of the space bar). On the keypad type in the number 0241. Release the Alt key, and it’s done.

          • JeffH

            JLC, No numbers lock on my keyboard..numbers are integrated above the standard kepad wth the symbols…oh well. Yeah, thought you were a little sharp with Warrior too. Thanks anyway…

          • Palin12

            You should record it!

      • Barb

        Beautiful JeffH! This should win a Grammy!

      • Michael J.

        JeffH,
        Well, sweet potato pie and shut my mouth. The country music group “Alabama” is made up of staunch conservatives who probably wouldn’t mind you plagiarizing the rhythm to their hit song “Song of the South” in such a way.
        I do appreciate the spirit of your endeavor and would advise you to carry on.

    • marvin

      AM LIB after reading some of the crap you post i did not think you could get any more stuped but i was wrong the post on unions and illegals is way out there you ever hear of the I.S.U THAT is the international service union i would not want you to get a headache trying to understand befor you spout your lie,s get some facts to go by and see if there are not in fact illegal in that union

    • angel-wanna-be

      American Liberal_”If those employers hiring the illegals had Union companys there wouldn’t be illegals working there”
      COPYIED AND PASTE FROM YOUR COMMENT!

      YOUR RIGHT AM LIB for a change, they’d be legal and well taken care of, but the products they’d sell, would be so damned overpriced to cover union dues and 100% paid benefits, comsumers would be better off buying second hand or at Walmart!

    • angel-wanna-be

      Blah, Blah, Blah!!__Same ole stuff!

  • chuck b

    amer lib has several different names, so he answers his own ignorant remarks.

  • Michelle

    So we need to now boycott all states that pass laws we don’t personally agree with – what stupidity! Guess every state will be boycotted. The Hispanics already boycotted Arizona not long ago in refusing to go to work. Guess what happened – NOTHING! The only difference, I was able to get to work a lot quicker and the roads were congested. ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL.

  • Merl Elton

    Arizona’s decision is about protecting the people when that the gov is refusing to do that. Therefore, PC, civil rights are irrelevant issues; and are being forced to the forefront to disable the cause of protecting the people, states rights, and preventing bankruptcy of the state. Illegals are here illegally and when they start killing the folks; ruining neighborhoods with crimes, gang violence, burglaries, assaults, murders, etc. the folks have a right to rise up. Things have gotten out of hand in Arizona; and without regulation and law enforcement; have gone from bad to worse; and the state has the right to protect itself and its citizens against unrelenting numbers of illegals who take jobs from citizens; demand welfare; do not always pay taxes. If left unchecked, huge numbers of demanding, ungrateful, rioting, and some even dangerous illegals will be living on US taxpayers dole. We must controlt the border and the numbers of people coming in. Anyone who wants to control the border and runs for office can get many votes. Controlling the border works for the benefit of illegals as well as they will have jobs and not have to turn to crime or welfare to survive.

    • Raggs

      Yeah we all know how big the problem is….

      So where is all of this “new” money to police the illegals going to come from?…. Oh I should have guessed… from the mere 49% of the population that currently has a job… maybe even less in Arizona.

      Make no mistake this is policing the illegals and anyone / everyone else that looks / acts suspicious…

      • Warrior

        Maybe from the GM loan that was paid back IN FULL!

        • angel-wanna-be

          Look Ladies, If we want to get these illegal immigrants under control, then WE as American Citizens are going to have to suffer along with the rest. Your Photo ID drivers License, IS your ID!
          If we aren’t doing anything wrong, to warrant suspicion, and we’re stopped anyway, WHAT’S THE PROBLEM!_ It’s a matter of inconvenience If your born in this country you have ID, if not you have a green card!___We can’t clean up the mess, without us being involved and suffering a little, like it or not.__You can’t have it both ways!!

          • Claire

            angel—thank the good Lord you said this. I have been harping on this for the past 3 days. So what if we have to put up with a little inconvenience, we have to do it or we will never get rid of them. Heck, I will gladly fork over any form of ID. I do not consider this to be an infringement on my rights, I consider it to be HELPFUL in getting the illegals out of America!!

          • JeffH

            angel-wanna-be and Claire…you both hit home runs to win the game.

          • TIME

            Folks think about this for just one moment.

            Look at what you have to do to get on an airplane now.

            First you enter the line, with your Photo ID out
            with ticket in hand.
            Then nearly strip down to your bare butt,
            then walk through a scan again while all your
            stuff is scanned, This for everyone who flys -
            thats no matter who you are.

            Need I say more.

          • angel-wanna-be

            Clair & Jeff, Honest to God, I get so p*ssed off at some these people on here, they act as if they’re too good to be inconvenience, it’s OK for everyone else, but not them!__I can Wah, Wah Whine with the best of them, but there comes a time, where ya do what ya gotta do, and shut the hell up about it. There is no way in hell we’re going to get out of getting stopped for ID, if we want Law Enforcement to stop illegals from crossing the borders. Some people act like spoiled brats!__ We gotta give a little. Bambi sure as hell won’t help, that’s a given!__All Bambi wants to do is criticize Jan Brewer, for passing a law, he should have passed in the first place, the idiot!

          • Claire

            TIME–So what??!! At least this is a safety precaution. I sure as heck don’t want to get blown up on a plane or anywhere else. With all the crazies out there and you will gladly get on a plane with them? Sure, this is an inconvenience but which is better? The inconvenience or getting blown to bits? I’m Sorry TIME, I respect you as a person and enjoy reading your posts, but we HAVE to have security on planes. If I have to get naked, then so be it. There is simply no way out of it. We have foreign crazies and crazies right here in America. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

          • http://?? Joe H.

            Claire,
            I think Time was just trying to make a point. All these progressives are complaining about being inconvenienced yet not all that many complain about what they have to go through to be safe on planes!!

          • Time

            Claire,
            I am saying just look what you or anyone who gets on an airplane has to do.
            Thus whats the problem with showing your ID when asked, there may well be someone who could be here Illeaglly.

            Has anyone ever been in Tuscson AZ, its very obvious that many there can’t speak a single word of english, I question if they are there for a vacation.

            Anyone live near El Paso toward Van Horn and the White Mountains, or the south eastern NM – where they have on I 10 massive road stops where you have to be checked out.
            As I am some what darker than most, I get checked for ID every time I pass through, as well many times asked to please get out of my car and they go through my car looking for something.

            I don’t have a problem with that, its their jobs; so why should anyone else be offended when asked for an ID.

            So perhaps I was not clear on my point, I hope this clears this up for you.

          • Claire

            TIME–Sorry if I sounded too blunt. I meant no offense. The illegals issue is going to be tough to deal with. I have no answers, other than ID cards for everybody. It will certainly be interesting to see how all of this plays out. I give the Arizona governor credit for passing the bill. More states should do the same. If Obama and crew isn’t going to do anything constructive then the states have no choice but to go ahead and pass their own legislation. I am all for it.

  • chuck b

    jeffh

    exactly like it is, good one!

  • Merl Elton

    The illegals here have no right to run the show and demand and say whatever goes. They are lawbreakers. Al S and his ilk are rabble rousers and race baiters. To see them pelting the police with rocks and bottles is digusting and disrespectful and they should all be arrested for assaulting police officers and endangering the populace. Can you image if the Tea Partiers behaved this way how they would be treated; and the terrible press they would get; they would be vilified to the max; yet these lawbreakers get a pass; just who is prejudiced, racist, and biased here; not the Tea Party?

    • Warrior

      Olberman would have to immediatley change his panties.

  • Merl Elton

    If conservatives want to win they must show how they can make the US better than their rivals by spending much less.

    • JeffH

      Merl Elton, at this point in time, conservatives could flip a coin on spending and still have a better chance than the Democrats at cutting spending. Dems cut their proverbial throats when they threw in with the Obama, Pelosi and Reid runnaway spending freight train.

      Please don’t come back with the old Bush/Cheney, Reagan line…we’re talking about today, not yesterday.

    • Warrior

      But what about the children and the less fortunate? Don’t we all want to see Equal, err, Social Justice?

      • Raggs

        Social justice..Hummm you sound a lot like obama… Socialist.

  • Dave Haught

    If they obey the law of the land and go through the process to became an American citizen and learn the language then its ok to live in the United States.

  • HFlashman

    OK…know what’s nuts? Reading time after time blatant ignorance of the employers. Everyone wants to go after those here undocuments. Everyone appears to have no problem with having to carry Identification papers everywhere. No one appears to have a problem with distorting the Constitution to read it against the hundred and thousand of Supreme Court opinions. AND NO ONE APPEARS TO HAVE ANY INTEREST IN PROTECTING OUR RIGHTS, LIBERTIES AND FREEDOMS!

    Think about it. Brown skin are not the only “illegals” here. And if you are Caucasian…best have ID (other than a DL) along at all times.

    And most interesting of all…no one wants to go after the real criminals and violators…the employers.

    Bah..a bunch of fake wannabe patriots…

    • Warrior

      Would that be like killing two birds with one stone?

    • Raggs

      Your simply MAD and losing your sences…

    • JeffH

      Unlike you birds of a feather, we at least wannabe patriots, not like you confirmed traitors.

  • Raggs

    No doubt there is infiltration from the leftist….

  • June Gagnon

    Personally, I congratulate the state of Arizona, for standing up to protect their state and their “legal” citizens!! I pray that all 50 states will enact the same legislation- -TO HELP PROTECT THE USA – - -since our own federal government refuses to do so. In spite of “constitutional federal law”, our own government refuses to do it’s job; simply because of the current LIBERAL, SOCIALIST AGENDA that has been obvious for the past two decades. Every “career politician” wants the “extra illegal votes”, come election time. Time to do away with career politicians and send “honest, patriotic” representatives to DC AND send every “illegal”, in the country, back where they came from. Since when does the US Constitution give “civil rights” to illegals??

    • HandyAndy

      I agree with you and a lot of other people do also. It is time legal Americans stood up to people who could care less about our country. The other states needs to follow suit with Arizona. At least one state has the guts to stand up and do what is right for its American citizens. Illegals and the socialist democrats are bank rupting this country. Good ridence.

  • Barb

    Hey AmLib I answered your stupid questions where are your retorts???? Or did your boss kick your butt too? Well I found the Arizona Law on line and all it basically does is enforces the laws that were already there. It just helps the Police and State Patrol enforce the immigration laws easier. NO PROFILING! The only way they will be caught is if they break a law first. Then if the police feel they are illegals they can ask for identification to prove they are not illegal. If a person is a citizen this is not a big deal to an illegal it will be! Simple. So what’s the big deal? This whole thing is over a law simply clarifying enforcement of old laws already on the books! The left is just trying to muck things up as usual, we’re all focused on this and meanwhile they are trying to slip Cap and Trade through in Washington real quiet like! HMMMMMM!

  • Frank

    Amer lib; It seems you approve of the health Care Bill. It seems you feel this Immigration bill is Unconstitutional. Do you realize that the Health Care Bill is Unconstitutional? Do you realize that when people rights infringe on others rights that the “Infringers” are the problem? Do you realize that in order to pay for health care they will have to raise taxes? Raising taxes Infringes on my property/money. Illegal Immigrants infringe on the rights of people’s safety, security & property. Thats why its a problem.
    You can criticize Arizona all you want, bottom line is the did SOMETHING!

    • Americal liberal

      Frank… Nonsense… You already have seatbelt laws, auto insurance , Medicare , medicaid social security…. Another words… It’s already been deemed not only constitutional but the law….I thought the Iraq war was unconstitutional, wiretapping without a warrent, torturing prisoners, secret prisons..the patriot act , I could go on but I made point…I also didn’t like my tax dollars spent on Iraq so we could blow their country up, then pay to rebuild it and give the Iraqi people healthcare …so spending 940 billion on our own countrys healthcare is no problem to me…we wasted almost 3 trillion on Iraq… And that’s all lost money… Obamas spending is on America… Big diffrence

      • Michael J.

        American Liberal is Borg. All attempts to revitalize Obama Zombies after having been assimulated is futile.

    • denniso

      Because some ‘illegal’ immigrants do commit crimes does not them mean that all of them do and therefore that all ‘illegal’ immigrants infringe on your safety and property.
      Some americans commit crimes…does that mean that all Americans infringe on your safety and property…try to use just a little logic.

      • Michael J.

        Denniso,
        Every single illegal immigrant commits a crime as soon as they walk, skip, crawl, swim or slither across the border, you twerp!

        • denniso

          You sort of rightwingers just can’t resist using Goebbels tactics…is it possible you don’t know what that means? Probably…Goebbels and his boss Hitler set out to dehumanize the people they wanted to eliminate, mostly Jews. Your welcome for the lesson in history/politics.

  • kilrntex

    POS obama is calling to all the same idiots who put the POS in power to vote for his dumbass again. What a bunch of idiots they are! They will vote for a traitor who will betray them by having the illegals take their jobs! But never fear stupid ones, you can get unemployment, food stamps, welfare, and other perks from the working man via taxes by the new United States of Socialism, enacted by an illegal POS for a president. dennisobama and Unamerican Liberot may be jealous that there are more people in line with them to claim unemployment and that they may have to go back to work for a few days to get more benefits. Damn, I wish we didn’t have to wait so long in line………to buy ammo!!

    • JeffH

      Ignore this liberal plant!

  • John

    Techically every country has rule of law. The illegals have no rights here when the act the fool and break one law after next.The illegals left there rights in the country from which they come from.No more communist liberals the speak spanish.If I was in their country and act the fool and was arrested. And cry I have civil rights and I am a American.The policeman there would say , ” you are on this country soil and not in America.” You obey our laws and suffer the fate of breaking them! You have not constitutional rights. They will laugh at you. Stupid illegals you have no rights here and you are not a American. You are a illegaL alien.Illegals are domestic Enemies of U.S. national security code; The reconquista that support Aztlan. under that they hate all Americans and America. I do not support the hate.

  • Antonio

    I think that what Arizona did was a good thing. I hope that Texas does the same. The problem with the USA is that nobody wants to enforce the laws that are already there, because someone is going to scream racist like a little baby screaming for milk. I was a police officer in Colombia and we were able to and did arrest anyone who was there illegally, and those people went to jail before deportation!!! These Mexican people whine about being deported!?? They should be thankful that they’re not in Afgan, because over there they execute you jaja. In China they literally put you in prison for life. In Korea they would get 12 years hard labor on top of regular beatings!!! The illegals are selfish people who only think of themselves, and they whine and cry about how hard it is. They should be ashamed of themselves. Have they wondered what it would be like if the shoe was on the other foot??? What if Mexico was prosperous and the whites flooded their country seeking work, food stamps, section 8 housing and WIC; would they be the “RACISTS”???

    • kate8

      Good for you, Antonio. A great job of demonstrating how topsy-turvy this all is.

      There can be only one possible reason for our government having allowed this to on for so long, aside from the small benefit for some of cheap labor. It has to be in order to destroy America.

      All one has to do is look at history. Every civilization that gave itself over to foreigners has fallen. We’ve gone one further and put one in charge of the country.

    • Palin12

      WB Antonio

    • TIME

      Antonio,
      I bet you miss the coffee from Columbia, I know I have never had
      any coffee anywhere in the world that even compares.

      Loved Columbia, what a beautufl country, the folks down there
      are sweet and kind and really good folks.

      • JeffH

        Time, I spent my last 25 years of work in the coffee industry, import, distribution, transportation and warehousing. Colombian Supremo was always my favorite coffee.

        • http://?? Joe H.

          JeffH,
          I love a good cup of Columbian, but my absolute favorite is Kona!!! I can’t get enough of it!! It’s only grown one place in the world and even a blend is almost 7.00 a pound!!! I never did get used to chicory coffee in New Orleans though!

  • kate8

    AL always hates being confronted with facts. When he’s bested, he just moves on to the next talking point.

  • Nels Brown

    Wow ! Everyone is for the Arizona bill, except for the Latinos.Great. If the Illegals break our laws to being illegal how can we expect them to abide by any law? They won’t. We do not need that kind of citizen.

  • Palin12

    I bet Obummer wishes that very manly-looking napolitano was still Arizona governor. :-)

  • http://gmail Raindancer

    Hope all states let the law enforcement officials do their jobs. I see greezy Sharpton is down there creating problems. He was convicted of running as a canidate and using the money wrongly as filing false charge against whites. Oh but I forgot he is a black reverend socialist democrat and lives off of taxpayer and con games. Just like most minorities and welfare slugs, live off of taxpayers and are too damn lazy to get a job or do anything productive, will not take care of themselves. Put a bounty on all illegals, no matter what race or color. Every town has a few illegals that would be worth a least 5,000 dallors a head, best stimulas program ever, if you cann’t produce proof of citizenship, bring in the trucks and cuffs. Maybe even load up a several pedopile worshipers “muslims” and we can all sleep better and save our country. Also might get a few of America’s most wanted. Package in with the grow socialists and marxist communists “Bill Ayers and omorons chosen group”. Place to start is in Washington!!!

  • Raggs

    This is senceless!!!!

    Why do you people not get it?
    Immigration is the next crisis and my I add one of the largest.
    It is being used by the ones on the hill to disrupt our very being.

    They are hoping for violence, and they know they can get it from you.
    Check mate….

    The government…obama will not do anything until he has an absolute victory in his gain over the states and IDIVIDUAL rights.. In other words he will piss on the constitution for his power.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      raggs,
      while you and I don’t see eye to eye on the law in Arizona, I do agree wholeheartedly that we have to control the violent talk as well as the violence! You are very right when you say he is just waiting to get a reason to declare martial law!!!

  • Eldon C

    What a shame that this discussion has reached this level. In my opinion, it all boils down to politics. Both parties have dropped the ball looking for votes. There is no loyalty in DC, bunch of blow hards looking for a soft job and plush retirement. Don’t put the blame on Arizona, put it where it where it belongs. Thru out this discussion, no one has mentioned Operation Stonegarden. A federal project providing monies to local law enforcements to do this very thing.

  • chuck b

    there is nothing in the constitution that makes it a crime to racially profile. the people most likely to complain are the very ones committing crimes or agitating the police. barry will have to come up with a different angle. of course the illegals don’t want to be profiled that means they lose. the same way the blacks in high crime area’s complain and they keep the bleeding heart liberals fighting against this action. you notice the howl from the muslims at the airports and again the bleeding hearts side with them. this and prior administrations are allowing the degradation of our country just to stay in power.

  • Raggs

    Its like I said a predetermined “crisis”.. The ends justify the means..Humm I wonder if that was obamas buddy that said that.

  • Don

    Are you kidding? After they passed the law gaoing after illegals I’m thinking of moving there. Finally someone is thinking for the American people. Way to go Arizona, hope the other 49 states follow suit and finally stop the raiding of America.

  • Raggs

    Ok so its like this… All of you stupid poeple that are dead set on a “new” law for immigration… drink some more kool-aid.

    Do you think that for a momment it will stop at just the illegals?

    Wall street… is this next government intervention.
    cap-n-tax… ditto..

    Everyone here that has an agreement / support with any state or federal agency to infringe on the foundation of this nation in my opinion is a traitor…
    You simply do not deserve your freedom .

    • JeffH

      Raggs, if I am a traitor because I support the Arizona Illegal Immigration control law then so be it. If you think that this new law is going to lead to the Obama Socialist Feds, that is you prerogative to do so. I refuse to support the illegal criminals, murderers, drug and human smugglers and throw my hat into the frey to support Sheriff Joe Arpaio and the Arizona Governor, and I won’t lose any sleep worrying about the feds over it.

  • G-lo is my fav Dem

    “Went to buy a ARIZONA Iced Tea .. They asked me for my documentation . So I Bought HORCHATA instead !”- George Lopez

    ohhh so funny!!…

  • Tom

    While psydo-conservatives debate illegal immigration, a more pressing hazard to America goes unaddressed.

    I have been saying for more than a year now, why hasn’t Pres Obama put through regulations to reign in the big banks that have caused so much damage to America, and were in large part responsible for the economic troubles that plauge every small and large business i

    Without regulations and laws that govern behavior,Corp America, specifically Banking America runs hog wild with no EFFECTIVE laws to restrain them.
    Kind of like Jessee James in the Wild West, with no real law to fear.

    Where were the regulations that would reign in the big banks that have caused so much damage in America? Where were the Changes??? He promised them!
    Or were we supposed to believe that Bush era policies that caused so much damage were to remain the status quo?

    I too b elieved in deregulation when it was first proposed during the Reagan Era. We were told Energy Deregulation would cause energy companies to compete against each other and that competition would result in LOWER ENERGY prices.

    LOL! Well as we all know, Degreulation only opened the door to Enron, and all the abuse that followed. Enron aside, are you happy now with your low energy utility bill? LOL!

    Its only gone up steadly since deregulation! LOL! What a scam. And it only could be accomplished by loosening the law.

    In a normal Free Market system, competition would result in lower prices. But what they NEVER told you in school, is that the free market has been cornered by a small group of corportaions, and those corporations control pricing dispite market demand.
    The law of Supply and Demand has been hijacked.

    This is of course an Anti Trust violation. Those in Washington in charge of prosecuting Anti Trust violations have been bought off and paid for.

    Thats the problem with our so called “Free Market System.”

    If I were a bank robber, and belonged to the Bank Robber’s Lobby, I too would lobby to have less regulation and law governing bank robbery. Wouldn’t you? Less laws to get in the way, less laws to penalize me.

    What President Obama has now done, is propose new regulation on Wall Street.

    What the Republican controled Senate has done is shoot it down, so that Congress cannot even debate it.

    Your Senate wants Wall Street to operate as business as usual. But we already know what problems this has caused. But the Senate does noe seem to care.

    This is what I mean when I say, they are all on the take in Washington. Senate members are protecting the hand that feeds them.

    I have said it many times before….
    Political Idealogy will not save America.

    Honesty will.

    Know when to support something, and know when not to.

    I don’t care if yop like Obama or not, regulating Wall Street is a very good idea, and it needs to be supported.

    Break free from old style party politics and do some good for once.

    Don’t support the Health Care reform bill as it sits, its a bad idea, but support wall Street Reform.

    Unless you happen to agree with all the abuse that has gone on in the past.

    Stop Being a Republican,
    Start being an American.

    • TIME

      Tom,
      The facts are that BarryO is in bed with wall street, so why would he really wnat to do such other than the Dog and Poney show that he doing now.

      As well 90% of what went wrong was done by Barrny Franken, ted Kennedy and the Democrats, plus two little known Fed biz’s known as, Fanny Mae, and Freddie Mac.

      Do some looking into the Joyce Foundation, the CCX, and Tides, note who was pushing funds around, the name Barry Obama will come straight to the top.

  • Norman

    All you liberals think it’s ok for Obummer to ask to see your proof of healthcare and avoid a fine or jail. But it’s not ok to check ones papers on legality. The whole country has gone nuts. God help us.

    • Raggs

      Correct Norm.
      It seems to be good if it is a liberal / socialist / marxist agenda.
      however if it is a conservative agenda its all bad…

      Again to me neither one of the “show me” your papers will work.
      Plain and simple the first bastard that ask me will be the last one.

  • Raggs

    So many of you people with your head in the sand because the government told you too… And you complain… pathetic pukes!
    I have no pitty for you……

  • Raggs

    My problem is that you whine and cry about a problem and sit on your arse in the hopes that someone will fix it for you so you wont miss oprah whimpy…. Then when someone gets tired of your bitching they decide to do something ( after a few million years )… And stupid you is happy with a fresh bucket of sand to thrust your incompetant head into… As long as it is not your problem you dont care…
    If it is your problem you throw a fit and pout like a child instead of taking a rational view…

    Rationality has left this country.. and it is being used against you.

  • Norman

    Obummer has a hard on for Arizona because they want proof of his birth in USA before they will put his name on the ballot in 2012. The cheese gets more binding. Like watching a very expensive circus. Let’s put a tent over The white house and sell tickets to this circus. Debt solved.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Norman,
      I hadn’t heard of this. a link to show it????

  • jkm

    What is the big deal with providing proof that you are an American citizen with more paperwork? I have been an American citizen for 52 years. When I moved to another state and went to the DMV to get a license, I had to have tons of proof that I was a legal American citizen. Even my wedding license wasn’t adequate – I’ve been married for 34 years – I had to provide more proof that I was who I said I was. I am glad to supply this information. I have nothing to hide. If doing this will help to keep terrorists out of the USA, then I’m all for it. If Hispanics sneak into our country so easily, then how many terrorists are here already? More paperwork, no big deal for me! It helps to keep us safer! Maybe I should claim that I was “profiled.” Yay Arizona! I hope other states wake up and enforce the laws! Note: we are forced to obey laws we don’t want…example…forced healthcare.

    • Raggs

      Your unbelieveable… and on the verge of moronic.

      Knock Knock.. whoes there ?.. the police!.. the police who?
      the police I need to see your papers!.. What papers? i have no stinking papers!.. Well then you will have to come with us!.. I’m not going anywhere with you!!!.. Bang! Bang! forget about it!..LT.call the morgue..

      psyhopathical paranoid delusions.. All of you need to be in the funny farm!

  • Norman

    You liberals, the ones with the brains, have probably already sent your dollar to re-elect Joe Arpaio at the above address. While you’re at it , all you liberals could send me a dollar too. I like Joe and applaud his work but no monies to a PO box. I was born at nite, but not last nite…..

    • JeffH

      Norman, sorry I should have realized a PO Box wasn’t a wise post, better safe than sorry. I posted it off of my contribution receipt.

      Help re-elect Sheriff Joe Arpaio

      OENIX, ARIZONA. September 30, 2008. Both are known for their tough on crime and tough on illegal immigration policies that have helped reduce Valley crime. As a result both Sheriff Joe Arpaio and County Attorney Andrew Thomas are taking the unusual step of touting the re-election campaigns of each other in a television spot debuting Tuesday across the Valley.

      http://www.sheriffjoe.org/

      • JeffH

        PHOENIX

  • Norman

    All republicans in the house of Representatives just voted themselves a big raise. Pass that money around. The presses are rolling. They are all alike. I’m Independent. Retired and on Social security. Some of yall may have to get a third job to keep these bastards going. How’s that change working out for yall? Inflation is now up to 7%. Hang on, here we go.

  • Stephen Russell

    Half of me says Yea, the other is worried about Big Brother, since now THE GOVT can do same to ANYONE.
    IE Nazis in 1930s Germany era & citizens.
    Yes ID illegal felons & gangs BUT pave way for others to be Legal.
    ID on Mexican mafia types X border etc.
    Otherwise it can backfire, & we have Mexican War 2.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      all we would have to do is wipe out what few enterprizes they have and they would not be able to buy any kind of weapon!! they know it as well!

  • Norman

    I’m sorry. I was mis-informed. The raise bill DID NOT pass. Sorry for the error. It’s hell to try to stay informed..That was close. Too close to election time I guess. It’s all a staged act…

  • kate8

    Another great headline today. Sorry, I’m just to busy to copy the link, but google:

    Blackmail – How the Controlling Elite Owns Politicians

    Explains a lot.

    • JeffH

      kate8, you really shouldn’t use google for any searches on your -puter

      Information Sharing Solutions for Government
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      Government agencies create, store and distribute huge amounts of data & have a responsibility to make much of that information available to its citizens. Google Enterprise provides innovative technologies that help government agencies organize information and make it accessible & useful to the citizens & to authorized government employees. Google’s solutions for search, geospatial data, and communication & collaboration are easy to use and quick to deploy — and they all benefit from the familiar user interface, speed, & scalability of Google’s consumer products
      http://www.google.com/enterprise/government/

      • kate8

        Thanks, JeffH. I do know this, and I actually use startpage, but just to avoid complicating things I say “google” because it’s kind of universal for “search”. I assume everyone will use the search engine of their choice.

        They also record every keystroke on your keyboard. Don’t know how to prevent that. I’m sure “they” already know who I am. Whatcha gonna do.

        • JeffH

          Yeah, I’ve got a highly rated security system on mine, but who knows what they have. It does block any intrusions. I realy don’t care what they see or hear, screw em.

          • Time

            Jeff,
            As of the last two weeks this news letter has just stopped coming to my email box, so I am sure that the “Progressive Marxist hackers” have been in Bob Livingston’s server.

            I understand that the Tides foundation has a a great number of hackers as well {crackers} who are far more astute at hacking} – in their employ, strange how they also work for the Joyce Foundation and the CCX. Of what I am sure the Justice Dept is in the mix.
            Don’t you just love the Patriot act?
            You know the same one that BarryO was going to shut down.

            So to them I say suck my dirty socks.

            I was reading that the DemocratO Mayor of Chitcgohooo Ill wants to bring in the National guard fully armed to protect the city.
            Yet he thinks that the law that AZ passed is some how really bad,
            yet NG running around shoting US Citizens is ok with him.

          • JeffH

            Time, I’m still receiving my emails, but I have also placed the website on my favorites list for quick access. These people will stop at nothing to cut off the heads of the American peoples sharing of information. If anyone ever though GW would mis-use the Patriot Act, they’ve seen nothing yet compared to the evils that Obama’s crew will do with it.

            If you don’t agree, you better flee….

          • JeffH

            Time & kate8, I went to a liberal information website yesterday, and low and behold, my security program blocked a virus attack, thank God.
            These people are up to no good at all, be very careful where you go on the internet.

          • libertytrain

            JeffH Time – remember – sometimes your email provider decides what you get and what you don’t get -

          • JeffH

            libertytrain…that’s true, also if any email filter adjustments have changed, they can endup in the junk mail…which I just delete without scanning them.

          • libertytrain

            JeffH – I have a friend who has been complaining that MSN has been particularly persnickety with their email lately.

          • JeffH

            I guess if you think about it MSN = MSNBC? Related?

          • libertytrain

            JeffH – gee interesting thought but isn’t MSN microsoft?

    • JeffH

      Thanks kate8, very interesting but not really surprising. Blackmail is an old game and I’m not surprised that it’s used in our government.
      These morons wouldn’t want the sleletons to walk out of the closet. I’ll bet treason has been the price of admission more than once.

      Blackmail: How The Controlling Elite Owns Politicians
      http://www.infowars.com/blackmail-how-the-controlling-elite-owns-politicians/

      • Chaos Factor

        Jeff… Alex Jones?… Lol… Now I get it…..watchout for those men in the dark sunglasses …. They’re secret Feds …

        • Time

          CF, Now its clear where your from.

  • Raggs

    Someone will be in deep sh** if I’m asked for my papers.

  • Norman

    Raggs, the funny farm is full-up. The escapees got elected and went to Washington.I like the way Kate8 thinks. She’s coming along nicely.

  • chuck b

    The certification of constitutional qualification for the office of president
    DC Knows that Obama is Ineligible for Office
    By JB Williams Saturday, April 24, 2010
    Members from all three branches of the Federal government already know that Barack Hussein Obama is ineligible for the office of President. National leaders, to include members of the US Supreme Court, already know that Barack Hussein Obama is not a “natural born citizen” of the United States of America, and therefore, is ineligible for the office he currently holds. (See JB’s new article on — google—”the Bottom Line on Natural Born Citizen)”

  • kate8

    Another interesting headline: “Illegal drug money saved banks during global finance disaster.”

    Always figured there was a lot more going on here, as the gov’t has long continued to allow this to go on with no regard for the violence and mayhem.

    And thanks, Norm, for the kind words.

  • http://PERSONALLIBERTYDIGEST ANDREA66

    PERHAPS THE FEDERAL GOVT WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE IF THEY MOVED
    TO MEXICO TO GOVERN AND LET THE STATES HANDLE THEIR OWN AFFAIRS.
    STATES SOVEREIGNTY

  • Simon

    TIME–So what??!! At least this is a safety precaution. I sure as heck don’t want to get blown up on a plane or anywhere else. With all the crazies out there and you will gladly get on a plane with them? Sure, this is an inconvenience but which is better? The inconvenience or getting blown to bits? I’m Sorry TIME, I respect you as a person and enjoy reading your posts, but we HAVE to have security on planes. If I have to get naked, then so be it. There is simply no way out of it. We have foreign crazies and crazies right here in America. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

    • Time

      Well Simon,
      It sure looks like your quote is Claire’s quote with a few minor changes.
      Had you looked at my response to Claire this would be very clear as to what I was saying. As I could not have made it any more clear.

      But that seems to not be the case, so whats your point.

      • libertytrain

        Time – You might have missed this earlier today or yesterday, but somehow a new scam ploy is copying other people’s posts – it happened to me and Claire as well – I’m not quite sure what the point is.

        • Claire

          libertytrain–I am wondering if “Simon” is someone else that posts on this site? Like you say, what is the point?

          • libertytrain

            Claire – I had made a simple comment to some post “What about Idi Amin?” and I saw it a half/dozen other places under several different names. Then they were gone/removed – My guess is it’s some sort of technique spammers are using to get to the site cause somehow it bounces back to the product they are selling. Although, I don’t allow comments on my site – the comments that come are automatically sent to spam, and I noticed that sort of thing there. Duplicate weird stuff that they are trying to see what gets posted and what doesn’t so if your innocent comment and mine got posted so would theirs if they used our words and then it would somehow bounce back to their site and sell someone some junk.

          • JeffH

            Claire and Libertytrain…it’s becoming somewhat of a common occurrence. It’s just the liberal left trying to upset the website and discourage people from exchanging comments and ideas. It’s happened to me too. I pointed them out and they were deleted.

          • libertytrain

            JeffH – I think your outing that creep that was so disruptive over the last several days or weeks was very helpful.

          • JeffH

            …just watching out for my fellow American patriots. It’s a bad habit I haven’t been able to break. LOL!

      • Claire

        TIME—that is my post. What the heck is going on?

        • Time

          Claire, I didn’t think it was you, I am sure that Bob’s server has been hacked, thus the whackos. Strange I went to look at a sight
          about two weeks ago that has the very progressive mind set.

          What was strange is that all the post looked to have been scripted, with differant names alledgd to be posting them.

    • Claire

      Simon–If you are trying to be a smart ass, it is not going to work. If you want to post on this site, then use your own words. Do not mimic me, you are only showing your own stupidity. In other words, try being a decent and honest human being.

  • FYI

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    • JeffH

      FYI , FYI…did it occur to you that YOU are a socialist RAT! Take a hike down the deep slippery slope.

  • Palin12

    These lousy, stinkin, good-for-nothing, socialist demoncrats care more about Mexicans than they do about Americans.

    • denniso

      We care more about the constitution and human rights than about nationality…simple.

      • Time

        denniso,
        Is that banana in your ear? I think you have banana in your ear.
        Has anyone else noticed that d o has a banana in his ear?

        Oh forgive me thats just some kind of pointy white hat with no visor
        wow – the face looks very stern with the cut outs for your eyes.

        Do you where that style robe all the time denniso?
        What do the cross patches mean on your chest?
        Why do you where a white robe, dose that mean your a man of the people?
        Is it that your really a Hayoke, do you pray to Loki or is it Frey?

      • JeffH

        The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.
        John F. Kennedy

      • Palin12

        So are you one of those One World Order people? Should we just have a free open border, let all the mexicans come here and get on welfare?

        • denniso

          You’ve just made the point clearly that there is no response to stupidity…

          • JeffH

            …as the response was directed at you, you then acknowledge your own stupidity…

  • http://none Wild Equine

    If you have lived in AZ for a number of years and watched the decline
    you are for this law. But lets put the blame directly on the feds. Years ago Cargill (meat production) recuited in Mexico. These workers
    were cheaper and would not complain about the lack of safety. When
    the complaints about illegles got loud enough, raids were made on the
    plants. But only 15 workers were pulled at a time, this way the production line was not affected and it looked good. Cargill has not been touched, only workers who, in some cases had been there 15 years.
    This goes on all the time. We just had 300 workers fired from a chain
    grocery when it was found they were hired with fake papers. A drop
    house was busted last night. I want to know where a poor unemployed
    Mexican citizen gets $3000. to pay the smuggler. We live with this day after day and I along with 70% of Az population are sick of it.
    A bill has been introduced here to allow us to vote on this. As for
    boycotting AZ – go right ahead. You hurt the very people you are trying help. The hotel worker rate is about 80%. If they have no business they will lay off these legal hispanic workers. Its a domino effect into other industries. Short sighted thinking but I’ve gotten
    used that here in AZ to.

  • Chaos Factor

    See, if You Republicans had done something about immigration this wouldn’t be an issue…. So now no matter what the president does you’re not going to like.,. It’s really just “tuff”…shoulda done something about immigration when you had the chance… What did your hero Ronald Reagan do?…

    • JeffH

      What did your hero Ronald Reagan do?…

      Reagan Administration Accomplishments 1981-1989

      1. President Reagan’s economic policies stimulated the economy, creating 17 million new jobs. One-fourth of the new jobs were created in 68 consecutive months. Black unemployment was cut in half.

      2. We were given incentives to save our money, to work, and to invest because of Reagan’s tax reforms.

      3. The inflation rate decreased to less than 4.4%. Family income rose 12%.

      4. We are now experiencing the longest and strongest peacetime prosperity in the history of the nation.

      5. We are experiencing the best peacetime relationship with the Soviet Union in our history. We have also seen the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan.

      6. We are now keeping the peace. We drew the line in Grenada, Libya, Afghanistan, and the Persian Gulf, and no countries have fallen to communism during the Reagan era.

      7. The U.S. military was refurbished and strengthened.

      8. There is now a call for prayer in schools. The Republican adminstration has been lobbying to give this deserved religious freedom.

      9. We have seen a return to traditional values. Under Reagan, we have seen a cut in federal funding of abortions; emphasis on a strong family unit; and the development of family-oriented public policy.

      10. Educational leaders are now working to sustain moral values and reestablish a clear understanding of right and wrong. The need for values in the curriculum has been trumpeted by the Reagan administration.

      11. People from other nations are flocking to America to follow our example. Our principles of civil and economic freedom are now being copied all over the world.(not to be confused with amnesty)

    • JeffH

      America Just Prior to the Reagan Administration

      1. Seven million Americans were unemployed.

      2. We were told to live on less, to buckle our belts and to prepare for scarcity.

      3. Americans went through two of the worst years of inflation in 60 years. There was a 13% inflation rate. Family income dropped and we had the highest tax bill in our history.

      4. We were on the verge of a major recession.

      5. With our cold wars during the ’70s, we inspired our enemies not to be afraid of us. The Soviets refused to come to the bargaining table. Cultural exchanges between the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. came to a halt.

      6. Disarmament was considered a noble goal. We did not know where to draw the line in our negotiations with the Soviets. Three countries fell to communism under the Carter administration: Benin (1977), Nicaragua (1979), and Zimbabwe (1980).

      7. Guns and tanks that did not even work were being sent to battle.

      8. Young Americans were not allowed to pray in school … even though Congress, every state house, and the Supreme Court begins business with prayer.

      9. Progressive values became fashionable. Social policies emulated the values of a small, vocal minority.

      10. Education did not sustain moral values. Educational curricula began to promote “alternative lifesyles,” such as homosexuality.

      11. America wore a “kick me” sign on its back. We lost our edge in technology and in global markets due to excessive government regulation, and high taxes which devoured capital.

      • JeffH

        Seems to be the common theme again, but maybe 10 fold worse.

  • FISHIE MIKE

    BOYCOT ARIZONA?NEVER THOUGHT MUCH OF IT.IF THE PROGRESSIVES WANT IT,I AM AGAINST IT.IF I CANNOT GET TO ARIZONA,I WILL SEND DONATIONS.CALIFORNIA,AS OF TODAY,I WILL NOT PURCHASE ANYTHING FROM YOUR STATE,INCLUDING YOUR MOVIES.I HOPE OTHER PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW.

    • denniso

      And why boycott California? Don’t you like their Repub gov?

      • Time

        No – is that clear.

    • Palin12

      I never buy wine from California either. Italian wine is better anyway!

  • Vincent

    Who said that an illegal immigrant has constitutional rights. They are not terrorists.

  • Cheryl

    You’re right Mike. Does California think they can actually hurt Arizona by boycotting them? Calis’ economy is in the toilet, and they are asking the feds for a BAILOUT! How can they hurt Arizona when they don’t have any money to spend.. LOL

    75% of Americans nationally, approve of this bill AND also 75% of Arizona citizens approve of it. Those numbers tell the story. America is tired of illegal aliens for a whole host of reasons, and since the federal govt has been too lazy and stupid to do their job and secure the borders, I’m glad Arizona has stepped up.

    From: The Federation for American Immigration Reform
    Half of illegal crossings into the U.S. occur along the Arizona-Mexico border.
    Phoenix is now the number one city for kidnapping in the U.S — and number two in the world.
    Drug gang violence is growing much worse in northern Mexico and spilling over the border.
    Over the last several years, a record number of stash houses for illegal immigration and drugs have been uncovered in Arizona.
    In Phoenix, there are violent battles between the end drug distributors for the various drug cartels.

  • Antonio

    WILD EQUINE interesting post. The so called “poor mexicans” get the $3000 from the ones that are already here working. They send the money to their brothers and sisters and girlfriends to save and when they have enough they pay the coyotes. Sometimes they (coyotes) bring the people here for free and are told to pay later, are also told that if they dont pay they’ll kill their mom or wife or whatever. Some of the girls that they bring here are kept in houses and sold until their “wages” have been paid. Do you want to know the funny thing about all that?? The Mexicans mistreat their own people, and they call the whites racists for trying to stop it. jajaja funny stuff man. Que ignorancia de ellos son egoistas!!!

  • Antonio

    HEY TIME!!! Have you really been to Colombia??? WOW it is a beautiful pais man. I’m glad you liked the pais. What part of Colombia did you visit?? I am from Cucuta and its a pretty good place. We get a lot of illegals from Venezuela mainly bringing in guns and bombs for the guerrilleros. Anyways, yes i do miss my cafe jeje. Take care.

    • Time

      Hi Antonio,
      I was in Bogota for a while my friends familys home is in Choco, very near Panama. Its just beautiful there.

      I also have afriends that live in Ecuador in Quito, the mountains are incredible. I also have a friend that lives in Manta on the coast, the water is super for surfing.

      When I retire I think thats where we are headed, I loved the people in South America, their warmth is unmatched anywhere I have ever been.
      They love music and dancing and you just can’t beat the food!
      I love fresh fish and they just don’t get any more so fresh than out of the sea and to the table.

      The very first time I ever had coffee was in Colombia, I think my hair stood up with out moose for a week straight, from my first cup, LOL.

      • denniso

        Anyone w/ a conscience and concern for the constitution should join in a boycott of all of arizona….NOW!!!

        • Time

          Hello -
          Anyone near denniso would you please reach out and Bit-h slap him for us. Thanks.

        • JeffH

          Anyone that has a conscience should boycott the boycotters and place all of their names in a memory bank to make sure the information is available for background checks so that they may never hold any type of public office position again.

        • Palin12

          Now that there will be less illegal aliens, and thus less criminals roaming around Arizona, it will be much better place to vacation! Go visit the Grand Canyon, the Petrified Forest, old Tuscan and the giant saguaros, and Tombstone among others.

          • Time

            Also North of Flagstaff, there are some killer Ruins form Native American’s that are too cool to believe.

            In Tucson they also have the Air and Space Museum, also a trip up to Mt Lemon is just breath taking, sitting on a rock out cropping looking all the way to MEXICO!

            Sir Paul has a ranch out there on the way to Mt Lemon, I don’t think he will let you in.
            If your into the best Southwestern food the down town of Tucson has some of the best in the world on every street.

            In to Music; hit Rainbow Guitars on Campell or the Chicago store down town. Oh and Krank Amps are made in AZ too these are some of the best amps in the world all American made!

            Its really a great state to find some really cool things to do.

            In the summer wait for the monsoon’s the sky will come alive with colors you can’t believe. The night sky is full of stars and is crystal clear.

            Ever been to a living Ghost town, well not to far form Flag is Jerome thats worth the trip just to get to see the sun set down in verdi vally.
            Or Have drinks at the small Sedona Airport at sunset in the winter! Killer to watch the rock turn bright red.

            Skiing well Flagstaff has that too. Golf, its everywhere.

          • JeffH

            Time, I plan on leaving California in the next few years and Arizona is high on my list of choices, someplace with fair weather.

          • Time

            Jeff,
            I enjopyed living in AZ I was there for about 8 years before I went back to NY. You know the old saying from WW I – when John see’s Paris he will never go back to the farm.

            The only thing about Tucson is too hot – Phoenix is hotter, Flag is great in the spring, fall and summer, winter is a tad cold for me. Prescott is not to bad but so far from anywhere.
            In Flag I could be in LA in an hour by plane, and eight hours by car at normal speeds.

            I do miss the 75MPH roads where folks do an easy 100 mph all the time. The only down side to cars there is you will need a new Battery every year due to the dryness.
            But if you love nature, Flag is great, I had elk and deer and bear in my yard all the time. Oh and a ton of Praire dogs, they have the plaque so stay away from them. There are no fleas if you have pets.

            Oh and Chez Mark has great food.

          • JeffH

            I’m considering Bisbee cause it’s small and the weather is a little milder in the summer. I’m also thinking about Idaho, possibly Coeur d’Alene or Boise. Housing costs would be my biggest concern I’ve been invited to Texas, but I’m not real keen on sweltering heat.
            Good trout fishing, duck hunting and some varmit hunting would keep me occupied.

          • denniso

            With your politics you should consider Iran or Somalia…

          • JeffH

            denisso says: With your politics you should consider Iran or Somalia…
            You’ll be shipped out soon enough when your messiah is finished with you.
            I can only hope that we are placed in the same Fema Camp together.
            “say hello to my two friends”

          • denniso

            JeffH…so now your imaginary fema camps for citizens, sure thing. We wind up anywhere together, bring it on…as your hero Shrub might say.

          • JeffH

            Nothing would make me happier…I suppose that you are advocating a violent meet by saying “bring it on”? I knew your true colors could be surfaced as you and your “pals” have been acting out violently for many years, like little backstabbers, attempting to push the blame at the conservatives. The jigs up, we know what you guys are capable of and I’m willing to take the challenge head on like a real human being, not like a sniveling snake!

          • denniso

            What are you, about 80? Given the time you’re on here you sure don’t work…you have alluded to violence and confrontation since I’ve seen you on here. Why don’t you grow up, if it’s possible at your advanced age and learn a little bit about life…

        • mary

          Look like you have never been out of this country. Believe me if you going to Mexico without papers. We’ll miss YOU because you’ll rest in Peace. This is the only country in the world where any dog can come in as they please. This COUNTRY IS THE JUNK YARD OF THE WORLD. BUT THAT’S WHAT YOU DESERVE BUT NOT THE REST OF US. TELL ME WHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION READ THAT IS ILLEGAL TO ASK FOR PAPER WHEN SOMEBODY HAS COMMITED A CRIME OR THAT IS OK TO COME HERE ILLEGALLY? TWO MONTHS AGO I WENT ON VACATION TO CENTRAL AMERICA WITH PAPERS OF COURSE. IN THE AIRPORT THEY EVEN ASK FOR MY MARRIED LICENCE. HERE I KNOW TONS OF ILLEGALS DRIVING WITHOUT LICENCE AND NO INSURANCE.

  • Debra

    What is the BIG deal? If you are legal, you have nothing to worry about!! If you are not legal, then You shouldn’t be in our country anyway and you don’t have ANY RIGHTS!! No right to protest, complain, run your mouth, or even speak!!! If you don’t like following America’s laws, GO BACK FROM WHERE YOU CAME!!!! The thinking here is all SCREWED up. These people act like we (America) owe them something. We don’t. Do it the right way,(the legal way) take pride in our great nation, follow our laws, or get out of my country!

    • denniso

      Most of the fruit and veges you eat are picked by mexican workers…Americans won’t do work that hard for so little pay. If you want Americans to do that work you’ll have to pay more for your food.
      Are you willing to do that? We should…

      • denniso

        Debra…what happens when a citizen is stopped but doesn’t have the right papers? Jail? And for how long before citizenship is proven?
        You people scream that Obama is taking over the country and abusing the constitution and forcing people to do what he wants and then you turn around and beg for a police state w/ cops checking our ‘papers’.
        Such nonsense and hypocrisy from the supposed lovers of the constitution. What a joke…

  • http://www.arizonalaws.net Arizona Law

    Arizona is the valley of the Sun. Let’s boycott the Sun!

  • Earl, QUEENS, NY

    My understanding of this Arizona law is that suspected illegals can be stopped and questioned only if they’ve violated another law – similar to seat belt laws in some states. But in many states, you CAN be stopped merely for not buckling up!! (I even heard about a Texas woman who went to jail for this violation??!! How ridiculous!!) Why won’t these ‘pro-illegal alien’ people protest these stupid laws instead?? GET REAL!! We don’t need laws to protect us from ourselves!! Anyone who’s old enough to drive is also old enough to decide whether to use safety belts, or for bikers – helmets…..On the other hand, look at what illegals are doing and costing the American people!! Therefore those who oppose the new Arizona law need to appreciate the need to protect America and its people from illegals, and quit whining about Arizona!!!! OUR LAWS MUST PROTECT US FROM TERRORISTS, ENEMIES AND CRIMINALS…..NOT FROM OURSELVES!!!! Enough said.

  • adrianna

    WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL DON’T YOU NAYSAYERS UNDERSTAND? I FOR ONE AM SICK & TIRED OF MY STATES(NC) SERVICES GOING TO ILLEGALS, FROM FREE HOSPITAL & DOCTOR CARE TO TAKING OVER BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN BIDDED ON FROM OUR LEGAL BUSINESS OWNERS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. I SEE NOBODY ON THIS SITE HAS REFERRED TO THE NAFTA SUPER HWY 35 THAT SPANS FROM THE MEXICAN BORDER AT LAREDO TX TO THE CANADIAN BORDER NORTH OF DULUTH MN. THIS BILL(NAFTA)THAT WAS SIGNED BY DEMOCRAT PRES BILL CLINTON(NOT MANY OPPOSED IT)OUR SENATOR THEN AT THE TIME JESSE HELMS WAS ONE WHOM DID, & SAW THE RAMIFICATIONS OF IT. NOW IT’S COME TO FRUITION. IT’S NOT A DEM OR REPUB PROBLEM!!! ITS ON BOTH THE PARTIES. GW SIGNED(VERY QUIETLY) THE NAFTA SUPER HWY 35 BILL IN 2005 WITH MEXICO’S PRES AT THE TIME FOX. THIS HWY HAS BEEN BUILT & NOW BEING USED I BELIEVE, & IT ALLOWS CONTAINERS FROM THE FAR EAST TO ENTER US BYPASSING LONGSHORMANS UNION. GOOGLE THE HWY, & YA’LL WILL BE VERY SURPRISED WHAT OUR GOVT HAS DONE IN THE NAME OF PRESERVING OUR JOBS!!!!TERRRISTS ARE IN THEIR GLORY. TRUE WE ARE ALL IMMIGRANTS BUT OUR ANCESTORS DID IT RIGHT & BECAME AMERICAN CITZENS. 1ST OF ALL THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS NEED TO LEARN HOW TO SPEAK ENGLISH, WHICH IS ONE OF THE CRITERIA ON THE ROAD TO CITIZENSHIP. HOW COULD I GO TO ANOTHER COUNTRY & EXPECT TO BECOME A CITIZEN WITHOUT GRASPING THEIR LANGUAGE. THIS IS THE LAND OF THE FREE, NOT THE LAND OF TAKE, TAKE, TAKE!!!! I ALSO REFER TO GW NOT RELEASING THE 2 BORDER PATROL WHO SHOT A KNOW DRUG DEALER & ILLEGAL IN THE BUTT & BEING SENT TO PRISON FOR MANY YRS. HOW DARE HE DO THAT TO OUR FREEDOM & PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO UPHOLD THE LAW OF THE LAND!!!! I SAY GO ARIZONA & GET ER DONE, NO MATTER WHAT HISPANICS SAY & SOME OF OUR LEGALS SAY!!!!!TAKE BACK OUR LAND!!!!!

  • adrianna

    OH & BY THE WAY IF I CAN’T GET TO ARIZONA TO SUPPORT THEIR GOALS, I WILL DEFINITELY SEND A DONATION TO SUPPORT THIS BILL. ILLEGALS GO HOME TO YOUR CRIME RIDDEN STATE!!!! SORRY FOR THE HISPANICS, WHO WOULDN’T WANT A BETTER LIFE THAN WHAT IS DOWN THERE??? I’VE BEEN TO MEXICO QUITE A FEW TIMES & LOVE THE LAND & PEOPLE, BUT WILL NOT GO EVER AGAIN AS TO WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW DOWN THERE(BEHEADINGS,MURDER, RAPES, KIDNAPPINGS). SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE, BUT THEY NEED TO RISE UP & TAKE BACK THEIR COUNTRY WITH OR WITHOUT THEIR GOVT!!!!!!!

  • http://mog7@cox.net Muriel P. Goyette

    Who’s kidding who? illegals in America number at least 30 million strong…plenty enough to go down and claim their country. The rights of MEXICAN AMERICANS? When is the last time you saw the rights of ANY AMERICAN be defended? From what I hear FAR AND WIDE, boycotts of ANY sort of the State of Arizona will have serious repercussions for the boycotter. That’s is a 2 way street and ARIZONA IS IN THE RIGHT. FINALLY, NEEDING SPECTACULAR COURAGE TO PROTECT ITS OWN STATE WHICH THE INCOMPETENT HOMELAND SECURITY AND FEDERAL ADMIN HAS DISGRACEFULLY REFUSED TO DO, insisting on ignoring the murders, rapes, thievery and lawlessness brought to USA across its southern border. The terrorists
    who planned to take down FORT DIX were illegals brought to USA AS CHILDREN and broke every law…the police turning their heads. Took a CLERK to report their videos to the FBI, or scads of military would be dead. Racial Profiling is the newest scapegoat on the market to protect
    CRIMINALS. No one else has anything to hide. If obama dares to bring Arizona to court after his blatant disregard for the murders and hideous acts of illegals performed there, he should be impeached and definitely useless Homeland Security should be dismantled. Invaders of a country dictate to the president and desecrate its flag? Time to find a Commander in Chief who can manage the job.

  • Randall

    The constitution doesn’t apply to illegal immigrants period!!!!

  • http://personalliberty.com Mary

    Why is there a US Hispanic Chamber of Commerce and the Hispanic National Bar Assn? To me this is further proof the Hispanics do not want to embrace America as their nation now, but to stay separate, and eventually take over? Why can’t they join the Bar and Chamber already establishede?

  • http://msn David Babbitt

    I am a 62 year old American. After 4 years Of serving my country I came home and became a construction trades worker. While living in the state of Utah I listened to my Hispanic friends and co-workers who are absolutely disgusted with the trash-bags coming here illegally. My co-worker Ramero came here for eight years and hearded sheep in the desolation of Wyoming and brought his wife and kids here LEGALLY and they all are citizens One day when he was tired he said that he had been attending school and was graduating from the 5th grade that day. He was proud to be an American and I was proud to know him and many other families of a similar nature. They are as disgusted with the unvacinated disease carrying criminal ILLEGALS as are most of us. I was building homes in the mountains and earning 22 dollars per hour while supporting my wife and five children and driving 3 hours a day to and from work. My boss gave my job to two Mexicans with fake documentation. They both worked for 10 dollars per hour and of course worked for cash. Two for the price of one? Anybody that tells you that illegals do not take jobs is most uninformed. Also most people do not realize that foriegn nationals are able to by guns legally with foriegn ID in many states. Arizona is doing the right thing and I would like to see the ACLU abolished.

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