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European Crisis Likely To Impact Americans

December 2, 2011 by  

European Crisis Likely To Impact Americans

“If I were you, I’d be terrified.”

That was Porter Stansberry’s response to a questioner, after Stansberry gave a heart-stopping presentation on the worldwide debt crisis at a recent conference.

Porter is the author of “The End of America,” a jeremiad that has been read or watched by more than 20 million people, including a lot of subscribers to Personal Liberty Digest™, to which Stansberry is a frequent contributor.

Stansberry was the keynote speaker at a conference in Baltimore sponsored by the Project to Restore America, which he founded. I served as master of ceremonies. Somehow, I managed to get a corner room high in the Baltimore Marriott Waterfront, where I had some of the most fantastic views I’ve enjoyed in a long time. I even saw fireworks explode over the city on Saturday night.

They were a fitting companion to the fireworks at the conference. Stansberry spelled out all the reasons why Europe is heading straight for the financial garbage heap. He said an economic collapse in Europe would almost surely drag the United States down with it. As evidence, he cited the fact that U.S. money market funds have invested more than $500 billion — almost one-third of their total holdings — in European paper. “They’re selling it as fast as they can,” Porter told the audience. “But what happens if a big enough chunk of that money becomes worthless?”

That was when a member of his audience asked Porter if he should be worried about all of this. An incredulous Porter replied, “Did you listen to my speech?” Then he said, “If I were you, I’d be terrified.”

Great. One more thing to add to the worry pile.

Stansberry offered advice on how to survive the disaster that is coming:

  • Get out of debt. Don’t owe anything to anyone: banker, neighbor, friend or family member.
  • Own gold — as much as you can afford — and some silver, too.

The Project to Restore America has just three goals: to restore sound money, to demand a balanced budget and to limit how much of your money government can take from you. If you would like to learn more and sign up for the free daily emails, you can do so here.

The Conference’s Most Enjoyable Surprise

Quick: Who was the first person to officially become a candidate for President of the United States this year?

I’ll give you a hint: You’ve probably never heard of him. And here’s a second hint: I introduced him at the conference. The crowd was absolutely delighted with his pro-freedom, anti-government-meddling remarks.

In my introduction, I mentioned that a lot of people were upset by how little time Ron Paul was getting in the Republican debates: 89 seconds in the 90-minute debate that CNN sponsored. “That was 89 seconds more than our next speaker got,” I told the crowd. “All of the networks (yes, even Fox) have rigged the rules to keep him off the platform.”

The candidate is Gary Johnson. He is a two-term governor of New Mexico. While he was in office (1995-2003), he vetoed 750 spending bills from the Democrat-controlled State Legislature. When he left office, the State had balanced the budget for four consecutive years.

If you want a President who is physically active, Johnson is your man. He is a five-time Ironman triathlete. He has biked across the Alps. And he climbed Mount Everest with a broken leg — and no medication.

He may not be the most passionate speaker you’ve ever heard (even his admirers admit he is sometimes a little dull). But he’s got some great one-liners, including, “My neighbor’s dog has created more shovel-ready projects than Barack Obama.”

Why aren’t you allowed to hear him in the Republican debates? Obviously, the powers-that-be have decided that you’re allowed to hear from only one Libertarian candidate this year.

I’m not saying I’m about to go door to door in my neighborhood campaigning for Johnson or that you should, either. But I am saying that he shouldn’t be muzzled. He deserves to be heard.

The best article I’ve read about Johnson was the profile, “Is This the Sanest Man Running for President?” that appeared in the September 2011 issue of GQ Magazine.

If you read the article, I think you’ll be more convinced than ever that our lying national media are almost as big a threat to our freedoms and our future as our government.

That’s why supporting alternative media like Personal Liberty Digest™ is so important. I’m not exaggerating when I say that the fate of our Republic could depend on it.

What are you doing to help spread the word?

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • skyraider6

    You betcha, Chip

    • FreedomFighter

      Congress has declared war on the American people

      The military in the streets of America

      Obama can take you without due process, jail or kill you

      America is NOW a battlefield and we Americans are the occupied.

      Take a stand for America, your freedom, your childrens freedom for surely they are taking it away at this very moment. You and all other Americans are now slaves and the slave masters are using our own sons and daughters in the military to enslave us

      The time of choice is upon us, choose freedom.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

  • http://aol.com sean murrey ILLIniois

    The europeans have been in the garbage for awhile.

  • http://Boblivingston Lyle McDaniel

    jut hearing from comon sense ideas is more than we normally get, let them speak.the medias choice is supposed to be your choice.

  • s c

    Chip, Gary Johnson sounds like he has potential. Unfortunately, in America and in this political climate, he has no chance.
    It seems like most of the time people have to sell their rump and/or their soul to get into the thick of American politics. Take McCain, for example. Take both Clintons.
    Take Queen Nancy, Romney, Reid, Waxman, Specter, Schumer, Durbin, Fwank, Graham, McConnell and most of the Party A and Party B herd. Take all of them and ship them off to the nearest unknown planet.
    As for the ‘crisis,’ the central connection is, of course, central banks. My solution wouldn’t solve anything, but it would sure make me feel better.
    I’d call it the 1913 Surprise. Other countries are on their own when it comes to comeuppance.

    • Stryder

      SC, you said:
      “It seems like most of the time people have to sell their rump and/or their soul to get into the thick of American politics. Take McCain, for example. Take both Clintons. Take Queen Nancy, Romney, Reid, Waxman, Specter, Schumer, Durbin, Fwank, Graham, McConnell and most of the Party A and Party B herd.”

      I don’t know ANYONE who’d wanna buy the rump of ANY of those folks, and as for them selling their souls….well, I don’t think they have souls to sell.
      EEuuwww,(shudder) Thinkin of Queen Nancy’s rump. Please don’t bring THAT mind picture up again! Same goes for the HillBillery’s. YUCK

      • Joe H.

        stryder,
        you can already SEE Queen Nan’s rump. All you have to do is look real close at her chin!!!! She’s had so many face lifts……!

      • Old Henry

        Stryder:

        You overlooked Fwank. His rump has been for sale for decades. And quite busily so at that…

  • http://www.easyinvest.co.za peter

    Even though folks like you and Gary Johnson with Bob and others make a lot of sense, the problem is that no one is listening anymore. The people of the USA are hooked on Obama and Americans are headed for slavery! The agenda of the Rothschilds is firmly in place,just take care and have an awesome thanksgiving, it promises to be the last.

    • http://verizon.net budman

      I wouldn’t be too sure of this because their experiment in Europe is beginning to come apart and I expect many countries will opt out of the European Union and return to their own currency. Not many people were aware of the ties between the New World Order, the World Bank and the United Nations until recently. Is it possible the financial crises was created by them to bring about their goal? Why did all this money disappear and a financial crises seem to suddenly appear. Why did the Federal Reserve secretly give 1.6 trillion to the banks including foreign banks? I suppose we will all know soon how this unfolds.

  • Warrior

    The major problems with all libertarian’s are 1.) They aren’t masters of manipulation. 2.) They interject too much and truth and common sense into every equation.

    How in the world could anyone expect them to become politicians of the highest order?

    • DaveH

      You’re right, Warrior. It’s hard to get people, who don’t think they know what’s best for everybody else’s life, to run for Political offices.

      • Old Henry

        Well hey DaeH! I haven’t seen you around lately. How’s things going?

        • DaveH

          Good, Henry, thank you.

  • http://www.kkvinarius.com TARA TAN KITAOKA

    U BET THAT EVERYONE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MESS.

  • Alex

    The bleak economic future spelled by Chip Wood is indeed a cause of world-wide concern, and coming at a time when Good Cheer, even over anxious smiles, might better serve us, I offer you Early Holiday Wishes.

    I know that a great many of the Personal Liberty Digest readers are Christians, and at this special time of year, a time in which those of the Christian faith honor their Savior’s birth, should we not give pause and think of the words of Christ—-the only words we know for certain that Christ ACTUALLY spoke, recorded verbatim, and not the words of mere mortals who lived dozens or scores or even centuries AFTER Christ was killed?

    Once you have given your Life and your Soul over to Jesus Christ then really THEE only natural and complete way to live your life would be to Follow His Divine Path, and there is no arguable way to Honor and Love Christ EXCEPT by following the WORDS HE SPOKE—he didn’t write any books, he didn’t draft a short or long drama or comedy, he didn’t draw any maps or paint any pictures that we know of—so, all we are left with are the words that He spoke on the Mount, the Beauty-filled words that HE had made CERTAIN were recorded for posterity. If you believe otherwise, than you are denying Christ’s very own words in favor of those of men who may want more than your Soul, but your purse-strings and your influence, as well.

    If you have pledged your Life and Soul to Jesus Christ, if you have Sworn an unyielding Love and made a Compact with Christ to Follow Him to Salvation, then show Christ your Love and Faith by rereading the Sermon on the Mount. Don’t worry about Luke or Mark or John or Martin Luther King or Pat Robertson—-concern yourselves ONLY with the ONLY spoken words of Christ HE HIMSELF made sure you WOULD know and you will have shown your Love to Christ for His Birthday!

    Jesus was a Socialist.

    God Bless Us, Each and Everyone!!

    • s c

      A, were you paid for all that jazz? So tell America what we need to know. Jesus was a loyal member of which political party?
      If he was a ‘socialist,’ Lenin and Marx never it. By the way, comrade, change churches. Your religious icons are apostate, and your “Bible” should be burned ASAP.
      Up the rebels!

      • Alex

        Lots of people seem to think that I get paid for my posts—guess that just means that I am a very good writer. Thanks!!

        The Left is right, and always has been.

        • DaveH

          Hardly Alex, unless being a good writer means fabricating facts and spewing unsupported proclamations.

          • libertytrain

            Yes, Dave this is one character totally impressed with his own being. Unfortunately he’s the only one.

          • vicki

            Lets look for. a moment at alex’s unsubstantiated claim that Jesus was a socialist. Let us ignore for a moment that Socialism and therefor socialist was invented in the 1800′s and look at the philosophy.

            “The socialist perspective is generally based on a materialist outlook (usually historical materialism, but early socialists favored strict positivism) and an understanding that human behavior is largely shaped by the social environment. ”
            https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Socialism#Philosophy

            Since Jesus most certainly did NOT advocate a philosophy of materialism we have sufficient evidence to show that alex’s unsupported assertion is clearly false.

        • bob wire

          Oh Really! I guess I need to read more of your postings then. ~ It’s just that there are several Alex about ~ or am I wrong in thinking that and they are one and the same?

          • vicki

            In general you can tell by their writings which alex is which.

        • Joe H.

          Alex,
          It is also written that Jesus said that he who doesn’t work should not eat. does that sound socialist to you??? Also at the sermon on the mount Jesus said ” suffer not the children for they are as pure as the driven snow”!! THAT sure doesn’t sound like your socialist mumbo jumbo supporting ABORTION!!!

          • Alex

            Socialists have to work, too, dummies—there is no free ride!

          • Old Henry

            You are correct Alex, there is no free ride. Socialists believe it’s paid for by the “rich”, the producers.

          • DaveH

            Sure there is, Dummy Alex. Many of the Socialists do not only produce nothing for their money, but they actually inhibit others from being productive. Thus, they are negatively productive. Why else would country after country with Bigger Governments have bad economies?
            I’ll give you an example that even you can understand, Alex:
            Imagine Government sending people out to the desert to catalog the rocks (make work). It would be hard work. They would sweat. They would be paid (by the Socialists with other peoples’ involuntary contributions). But would there really be a demand for such work by a Free People? Of course not. Few, if any, citizens would care enough about the quality of rocks in the desert to pay for such an endeavor willingly. But Socialists spending other peoples’ money have no concern about such mundane quandaries.

        • JC

          Alex says:
          December 2, 2011 at 8:15 am
          Lots of people seem to think that I get paid for my posts—guess that just means that I am a very good writer. Thanks!!
          The Left is right, and always has been.

          The Left are Morons and always have been.
          They are a bunch of idealogues who take no responsibility for their idiotic utopian ideas that leave real human nature out of every equation. A bunch of latte licking psuedo intellectuals who think they know what’s best for “everyone”. That makes them communists at heart and anti-American by deed.

          “Some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual could believe them”
          George Orwell

      • Karolyn

        sc – So you believe the words of Jesus were “all that jazz?”

        • Joe H.

          karolyn,
          Read a little closer. he was talking about ALEX’S words not JESUS’S words!!!

          • JC

            Tere’s that old “liberal twist” again eh Joe? ;)

          • Joe H.

            YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!

      • http://personallibertydigest seymoure

        YOU DEMOCRATS CERTAINLY WHAT WILL BRING THE LORD BACK TO EARTH,
        TO CHASTISE US. YOU PROVE THAT EVIL LIVES, AND NEEDS TO BE
        DESTROYED. YOU, THERE, OF LITTLE MIND, ARE A SNAKE.

        • bob wire

          seek professional help and stay clear of me or I’ll make your dreams come true.

          • Joe H.

            bob wire,
            Threatening a man for speaking the truth, now??? I guess what they say is true, THE TRUTH HURTS!!!

      • bob wire

        well sc? ~ The god head, the trinity, chi, the divine “whatever one can grasp” is the “collective” so, yea, Jesus teaching related to how the individual related to the”collective” to live a more fruitful, productive life. Most animals are social, herd oriented with a very few exceptions. In the collective is found the strength and resilience to endure.

        The predator class offers the most exception to the “collective” to any in the animal kingdom, man proceeded by bears and large cats where rogue loners found most common. Willing to kill and eat their young and weak.
        And if you will notice all but man is endangered as their numbers decline today.

        sc, men tend to grow and slowly mature into the position of “patriarchs” if they live long enough. Every herd has a Patriarch and Gentleman second in command, but this hierarchy is not exclusively “gendered” a often times we see Females rise to the calling to lead and command.

        It’s not important to me that you believe in the divine or the collective, your time will come soon enough and it will be revealed to you.

        If Social or socialist are the only words you have a your disposal to relate to the divine ~ Yes Jesus was very much a Socialist.

        • vicki

          Nope.

          The socialist perspective is generally based on a materialist outlook (usually historical materialism, but early socialists favored strict positivism) and an understanding that human behaviour is largely shaped by the social environment.
          https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Socialism#Philosophy

          Jesus was not materialistic and therefor could not be a socialist.

          • bob wire

            Thank You Vicky, I didn’t have a clue what Historical materialism was so I looked it up! It sounds a lot like Jesus to me! If Jesus is not all about methodological approach by which humans collectively produce the necessities of life I’m not sure what is.

            “Historical materialism is a methodological approach to the study of society, economics, and history, first articulated by Karl Marx (1818-1883) as “the materialist conception of history”.

            Historical materialism looks for the causes of developments and changes in human society in the means by which humans collectively produce the necessities of life. The non-economic features of a society (e.g. social classes, political structures, ideologies) are seen as being an outgrowth of its economic activity.

          • bob wire

            As I understand it, Jesus was a teacher that taught humankind how to thrive and contend in a physical world while developing the skills of the spirit to be strong in the physical world and the next life as well.

            or did I miss something along the way?

            Are you not your brothers keeper?

            Do you not reap only what you sew without the divine assistance? (and only if you are real lucky)

          • Joe H.

            bob wire,
            I repeat what I said above. Jesus also said that if a mon does not toil, he should not EAT! Doesn’t sound socialist to me!!

          • Vicki

            BobWire writes:
            “Thank You Vicky, I didn’t have a clue what Historical materialism was so I looked it up!”

            You’re welcome. It is one of the things I like about being here as well. Debating with you and others gets me to look up the meaning of words and phrases even when I think I understand them. Like the actual definition of Socialism.

            Bob wire: “It sounds a lot like Jesus to me! If Jesus is not all about methodological approach by which humans collectively produce the necessities of life I’m not sure what is.”

            Just for fun I looked it (Historical materialism) up (again) to see if I could understand why you would think that it sounds like something Jesus would have taught.

            Now why anyone would think that historical materialism is what Jesus was about escapes me entirely. Here is just a short example of why.

            “Historical materialism started from a fundamental underlying reality of human existence: that in order for human beings to survive and continue existence from generation to generation, it is necessary for them to produce and reproduce the material requirements of life.”
            https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Historical_materialism

            Jesus says: (Matthew 6 24-34)
            ————————————————————————-
            “24 “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.

            25 “Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you shall eat or what you shall drink, nor about your body, what you shall put on. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothing?

            26 Look at the birds of the air: they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?

            27 And which of you by being anxious can add one cubit to his span of life?

            28 And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they neither toil nor spin;

            29 yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

            30 But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O men of little faith?

            31 Therefore do not be anxious, saying, `What shall we eat?’ or `What shall we drink?’ or `What shall we wear?’

            32 For the Gentiles seek all these things; and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all.

            33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things shall be yours as well.

            34 “Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Let the day’s own trouble be sufficient for the day.”
            ————————————————————————

            I do not see anywhere in there that you (Bob Wire) could logically draw your conclusions about Jesus.

            _________________________________________________________________________

            First Principle. Your Creator gifted you with life and free will.
            How you use those 2 gifts and how you honor these gifts in others,
            defines your moral character.

            For a TRULY free people the possession of ANYTHING created, grown, obtained without fraud or theft, can not be illegal.

            Any power you give government to take away rights of those you do not like can and WILL be used against you when they get control of government.

    • Stryder

      Alex,
      As a Christian, I understand where yer comin from. I almost never agree with anything you say, although I do defend yer right to say it.
      Your view of Jesus Christ may be different from mine, so we ain’t gonna try to argue the fine points either.
      I personally feel that ANYONE trying to legislate religion, or force a point of view is wrong (even if that POV is righteous).
      Please stay away from the preachin, and unless you have in your possession the actual video of what Jesus said, don’t say that, “the only words we know for certain that Christ ACTUALLY spoke, recorded verbatim” with all your delusional certainty.
      Merry Christmas to you and yours

      • Alex

        Merry Xmas to you and yours as well—I don’t really see myself as a ‘Christian’, just a believer in something way bigger and smarter than me.

        I do look up to Jesus, though, as a Progressive Socialist salt-of-the-Earth type, a really mensch, you know, a Liberal, thinking man…

        • Karolyn

          Jesus was the most enlightened man that ever lived.

          • bob wire

            The best recorded anyway. ~ Wise men/women usually don’t write much, it’s for someone else to write for them. That’s “wise” not to be confused with “bright”

          • Cynthia

            Jesus is God. 1 Timothy 3:15. “All scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for….” Not my job to convince anyone of the truth just my honor to obey the one true God.

        • Sirian

          LOL, if this isn’t a hoot! Alex you haven’t the slightest idea as to what “Christ Knowledge” actually is. HA, let me assure you – IT SURE AS HELL ISN’T POLITICALLY MOTIVATED! This is the typical Liberal political/religious understanding of Christ. LOL, Jesus himself probably gets a good laugh out of your presumed/twisted train of thought. If you want to know Jesus, please leave your political garments at the door for a change since they are so easily seen through.
          Have a nice day. . . :)

          • Alex

            So….you DIDN’T read the Sermon on the Mount then, did you?

        • DaveH

          You’re a “thinking man”, Alex? Apparently then, putting your thoughts into words is not your strong suit, since you rarely make any comments that can be backed up by either logic or experience.

        • ChristyK

          How about we look at the 10 commandments such as “Thou shalt not covet.” Socialism is synonymous with covetousness. It is people wanting what other people have worked to earn. It is legal plunder (to quote Bastiat)

          • Joseph

            As the saying goes: Open your mouth, and you remove all doubt…fool!

          • Joseph

            My statement is directed at the religious socialists!

          • Joe H.

            Joseph,
            Thanks for that clarification as I was about to ask just what the hell you meant if you were tak ing to christy!! sorry about my jumping to conclusions!!

          • Alex

            The Ten Commandments were NOT said by Jesus.

          • DaveH

            Nor did Jesus refute them, Alex.

          • Joe H.

            Alex,
            If you believe in the holy trinity, then yes indeed they WERE!! Jesus is God in the flesh!!

    • DaveH

      Haven’t you bashed Christians many times on this blog, Alex?
      Only a Liberal can bash a philosophy and then later use it to support his positions.

      • bob wire

        Not so! and you know it~ it’s a characteristic associated with buffoonery, overstating and embellishment that’s common place among “all predispositions” that carry a rabid infectiousness fever.

        The Werewolf can bite anyone, while favoring liberals least of all if Livingston’s forums affords us a view into “bashing” in general.

        But I believe a certain amount of Christian bashing is good on any political discourse when it’s thrown into your face so often by a “Simpleton” like some kind of a gd “invisible shield”, a force field that is impervious to attack by invoking the “Almighty’s Name”

        It’s almost as if they believe, where they got their knowledge more important then the knowledge.

        • Old Henry

          Where you get the knowledge is the key ingredient bob. Garbage in, garbage out.

    • Imprimis

      Actually, you are mistaken; Jesus was an individualist. If he had been a Socialist, He would have used entirely different tactics. Isaiah tells us that “the government will be on His shoulders”. The choice is to be ruled over by man or governed by Jesus/God…it has always been thus. When the Israelites “begged” for a human king, God let them have their wish but they were warned by the Priest of all the things that kings would do and that the consequences for their choice(s) was theirs.

      Further, charity is NOT a bad word. “One may give w/o loving but one cannot love w/o giving”. Meaning that the duty to help in any way we have is to be done whether or not we feel “emotion” about it. It’s amazing how when one gives on ones’ own directly to the person the amount stays intact and is not stolen away in lump or little by little as it passes through others or indeed, an entity such as the government. Embodied into the system of the government helping is the terrible consequence of no gratitude for the gift, to quote a recent person…”it’s Obama money”.

      …No, I do not know where he gets it but he’s going to give it to
      me.” The entitlement mentality harms the person, the persons’ character as well as the soul. Biblically, in Luke we learn we are to give and that there is a “law of reciprocity”…not just in Luke but that’s an example. The cup of the giver will not empty.

      Meditate on it.

      • Karolyn

        ” The cup of the giver will not empty.” = “As ye sow, so shall ye reap.” “The more you give; the more you get.”

        • Old Henry

          Your point Karolyn?

      • Joe H.

        Imprimus,
        Yup, Abummer certainly believes in charity!!! He has an aunt here in the US living in poverty and does NOTHING to help, and has a brother in Kenya living on $60.00 a month and he does NOTHING at all for him as well!!!

        • Old Henry

          And Joe, as I understand it from news reports the aunt is an illegal.

          • Joe H.

            Old Henry,
            YUP! She was told by the courts THREE times to leave and her sanctuary request is DENIED!!

      • Old Henry

        Friday morning, 12/2, I was listening to a Chi Ka Go radio station and they did a segment on a woman with FIFTEEN kids who was now living in a motel with 12 of the 15. I did not catch why, but she had been tossed out of her subsidized housing and all her, and her kids’s, belongings were put on the curb.

        She tod the interviewer that ‘Someone needs to pay. Someone needs to be resposible!” Ten of the 15 had been “fathered” by her fiance – must be a long-term engagement. The 12 in the motel room wer 6 months to 11 years.

        That is the classic Obama mentality. Somebody owes me so I can stay on my back making babies that you can then support.

        • Joe H.

          Old Henry,
          This could be cured. simply look at the woman and tell her that to get welfare after the second kid, she must reveal the father and submit to having her tubes tied and cauterized. the man either contributes to the upkeep of the kids or he has a vasectomy!!! I know it sounds mean spirited, but we can not continue to support all these kids for these peopl that are too lazy to do it them selves!

    • James

      Alex, Christ’s sermons on the Mount were for disciple ears only. Matthew 10:5-6 & 23 reads: “These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not; But go rather to the lost sheep of Israel…Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the son of man be come.” That hardly smacks of socialism.

      • bob wire

        James, ~ The Sermon on the Mount was JC’s “Wood Stock” brother. I fail to understand how it could possibility be perceive to be for a select few to witness. While it is true Jesus groomed his disciples and taught by asking questions and living and acting an “example”

        • Joe H.

          bob wire,
          Man you have GOT to put down the bottle!!! THAT was the most brainless comment I have heard here even including coal miners!!!

    • firefight

      “Jesus was a Socialist.” Alex, Alex, Alex, if morons could fly, you’d be a rocket. This clearly shows how a leftist/communist puts their own spin on anything and everything. You know so much about the bible and Jesus Christ. Show me anywhere in the Bible or any other publication, IE. Dead Sea Scrolls, where it is written or even suggested that Jesus was anything but who and what HE said that he was. Also, show me where he has given you permission to speak for him as to who he was or is.

      • Joe H.

        firefight,
        don’t you know that ALL the progs think they are the official voice for EVERYBODY???

  • Tom

    Chip,
    Would owning stocks with dividends paid with U.S.currency(my IRA) instead of fixed income be of any hedge against our currency being devalued,or is there no safe place other than putting your money in commodities or should I just plan on being broke in my senior years?
    Any and all help is appreciated.

    • Stryder

      Hey Tom,
      I ain’t a stock broker, but you MIGHT want to check out an inverse ETF. It’s kinda like betting that a 3-legged horse is gonna LOST the race.
      My advice, find a broker that has an hourly wage instead of commission (no agenda) and ask that broker how to get involved.

      • Cynthia

        Look into LEAPS,long term ocntracts on stocks or equity trust funds, which allow you to purchase, at a predetermined price that underlying security. You can bet on them rising or falling and can fix a price at which to buy them or to sell. They last for three years so you don’t have to be omniscient as to timing of the market moves.

      • Old Henry

        “Broker” is a pretty apt title.

  • http://verizon.net budman

    I agree that Mr. Johnson would be a good candidate but so would some others who chose not to run like Allen West.

    We are headed for hard times by virtue of an out of control Congress and administration which has placed great debt on this nation in a mere three years. The only saving grace is the United States has the strongest economy and where other countries will have a difficult time coming back from a collapse, the United States will recover and have a strong economy. The first thing in reversing the continued slide is to remove this President and get Republican control of the Senate to get a fiscally sound budget passed and reduction of an overweight Federal government.

    • DaveH

      We could recover almost overnight if we just stopped the Government from taking money away from the producers and wasting it. We need to slash Government spending by at least 1/2.
      Not many people have heard about the collapse of 1920. They haven’t heard of it because it lasted only a year thanks to Warren Harding cutting Government spending dramatically and butting out of the Marketplace:
      http://mises.org/daily/3788

      • James

        DaveH, If the government cut its spending in half, tens of millions of Americans would starve to death. Our problem is, too many Americans are completely dependent on government entitlements for their livelyhood. That’s why the super-committee gave up, reducing the deficit would have cost them their jobs, maybe even their lives. Right now, 46 million Americans are on Food Stamps, and 15 million unemployed, plus their dependents amounts to 45-50 million more who are not paying anything into the system. Unemployment for October rose to over 300,000, which is higher than September’s.

        • ChristyK

          If we cut spending drastically now, it will be very hard on everyone, but especcially those completely dependent on the government for their support. They will briefly have a hard time, but will have the opportunity to learn to take care of themselves. If we do nothing, one day, there will be no more money. People will suddenly have nothing. The riots, murder, and death that will insue will be disasterous. We need to elect leaders that are willing to make the hard choices, even if it costs them their jobs, or things will get bad fast.

          • Old Henry

            ChristyK:

            The problem is they do not want to take care of themselves. Most oare 4th and 5th generation parasites who can’t spell their own names let alone take care of themselves.

            AS far as the pliticians, they are even bigger parasites, not a single statesman in their midst.

            Cut spending? Hell, they can’t even reduce the increases. Congress is basically nothing more than bottom feeders. (Sonce most are lawyers, I guess that makes sense)

        • DaveH

          Surely you jest, James. What has fear-mongering got to do with it?
          I suspect that your argument was very common during the 1920 collapse. It’s the kind of thing that prevents improvement.

        • vicki

          So James. How much worse will it be when the socialist government runs out of other peoples money? We are getting a preview now by watching Europe.

          Shall we be wise and learn from their mistakes or do you really want us to be another example for wise people in the future to learn from?

          • Old Henry

            Yes vicki, Europe’s collapse shall wash up on our shores like a Tsunomi that will wash acroos our land and wipe out all who are not on solid ground.

        • Joe H.

          James,
          See my post below. Right there is almost 3/4 of a million that could be cut! Just cutting the duplicate offices that cover the same things under different names could cut probably multiple billions!! Get rid of welfare for illegals and that could cut probably another half trillion!!!

      • Joe H.

        DaveH,
        you mean like the fact that the government has decided to put a camera network in Arizona that will track the estimated 5 (five) jaguars that roam back and forth along the US/Mexico border? Oh, I guess I should add that it will cost $771,000 at a time of economic near disaster here in the US!!! Check it out at http://www.azstarnet.com and search for jaguar cameras!!!

      • Old Henry

        I heard about that one as a child in the 50s. My grandfather almost lost the farm as he had only had it about 3 years and had not gotten fully established.

        You are correct in it not being well known as I do not remember it being discussed in school, on the Great Depression.

  • Alex

    Look at all of the Capitalists scurrying for spilled grain!!

    • DaveH

      Pick up a copy of “How Capitalism Saved America”, Alex, before you make a further fool of yourself.
      You could warm up by reading this, but I think it may be too deep for your intellect:
      http://mises.org/daily/5817/Entrepreneurship-with-Fiat-Property

    • firefight

      I’ll say it again…….If MORONS could fly, Alex, you’d be a rocket.

      • Joe H.

        firefight,
        Shoot, he’d have warp drive!!!

  • Alex

    Look at all the Capitalists betting on you to fail!!

  • Alex

    Look at all of the Capitalists confusing Acquisition with Love!!

    • DaveH

      Maybe you can take this time, Alex, to explain to us how Socialism is going to work in this country when it has failed everywhere it has been fully implemented? Show us that “thinking” side of your nature.

      • bob wire

        I can’t think of a single “ism” that hasn’t failed Davy, ~ so what are you attempting to convey with your statement?

        I prefer my whiskey to be a straight whiskey, no blends please and older the better. But when it comes to government, I fail to see how a “straight” anything would serve or govern well,~ some blending is necessary to round off the sharp edges to avoid the rip and tearing that creates damage and the bad side-effects to the governed.

        For years we done well with a socialist republic democracy, Now that is quite a blend for sure. Most all of the developed world today, regardless of their government”label” find themselves in the same pickle we are, “a large public indebtedness” ~ The common thread to all of these many nations is the banking systems in place and not “labels”.

        Will a Republic change this banking system? ~ If it can and has the politic will to do so, why is this power seen as exclusive to a “republic” and can’t be shared by other “isms”?

        I’d agree, a little less socialist would be preferred at this point, but I fail to see it as an “all or nothing” proposition.

        Taking into consideration, that it is the only from the radical, any change will ever come, I’m willing to listen to you with open ear.

        I ordinarily don’t buy “labels”, but tend to be a content shopper.

        I know that we reward people for being dumb, stupid and lazy. But we always reward people a 100 times more for fraud, lying and stealing!

        How is that, ~ simply being called a “Republic” is to offer change when it only takes the “political will” to change?

        • DaveH

          Well, Bobby, Capitalism (as in Free Markets) hasn’t failed. The reality is that first you Liberals subvert a system, then you cite the results of that subversion as proof that the system doesn’t work. Mighty convenient.
          By the way, I rarely read your comments beyond the first few sentences because I fired my “obtuse” translator, so it’s just too hard to try and figure out what it is you’re trying to say.

          • vicki

            Kinda like the “fast and furious” program. Claim that there are too many guns in the hands of the drug lords. Then sell/give the drug lords guns. Then claim again that there are too many guns and we have to tighten laws on our own people.

            Such a perfect example of liberal thinking.

          • bob wire

            I was not aware that Capitalism was a form of government! I think Capitalism has been around ever since women discovered they had a built-in ATM machine.

            and of coarse, in it purest form Supply and Demand cannot fail.

            You can take my silver or take my lead for services rendered, at it’s very worst, Capitalism it is still a deliberate choice.

            and don’t you thing this obtuse derogatory slur thing has enjoyed a good life and reached it’s end and now time to put it to bed?

            If I didn’t like you so much Davy , I’d make you cry.

          • bob wire

            Where do you get all these notions about liberals? ~ It seem like anything you find stupid you enjoy labeling as liberal.

            While I’m certainly not a liberal, I would not want to be a conservative if it required me to do as you seem to enjoy doing.

            Refusing to use anything but the widest brush you can find to express yourselves while painting a picture only a preschooler could possibly relate to and be proud of your handy work. ~ like ~ I did that! That’s mine!

            It’s some kind of mental illness as you seem to enjoy feeding yourselves and each other while you are about to lose another important general election you make foolish jokes. Obtuse doesn’t begin to explain such behavior.

            Conservatives say many things, while 89 % of what they say is pure manure, none of you seem to be willing to offer an exception.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EbY68D6lms&feature=relmfu

            enjoy

          • Joe H.

            bob wire As you have confirmed my suspicions, I say again, PUT DOWN THE BOTTLE!! It serves you NOTHING!!!

          • Vicki

            Bob Wire writes:
            ‘…..in it purest form Supply and Demand cannot fail. ”

            An ANY form supply/demand cannot fail. It is an immutable law. Governments and people have spent years trying to go against it and they ALWAYS fail.

            And remember the law of supply and demand affects EVERYTHING. Including whatever you use for money. Increase the supply of money and leave demand alone and you get inflation. It takes MORE money to “buy” wealth.

          • Old Henry

            LOL! You do have a way with words DaveH. (I hope you realize that by your “firing” you put one more on the dole roll)

          • Joe H.

            Old Henry,
            Nah, I hired him!! Problem is, he isn’t working any better for me!! I still can’t understand why it takes bobwire three paragraphs to belch!!!

  • Lastmanstanding

    “likely to impact Americans”…it is affecting us right now.

    I get the Stansberry report…even he has not directly put the fed and ecb on notice in his reports…they tiptoe around it, but perhaps they expect you to put the pieces together since these people in charge have killed a number of US presidents.

    There are smarter people on this earth than the fkg bankers…everyone eventually screws up and that is what is happening right now…they are on the run…we need to keep the pressure on and prepare to save ourselves.

    The final straw for me was the OBL bs…a hastily photoshopped photo of someone else, quickly buried at sea and then kill 30 US Navy SEALS, some of the toughest, most loyal men to their country that ever walked on the earth to hide the truth.

    If you do a little research and talk to a former Seal you can easily find out that the only place that they are together in those #’s is buds school… at least that is the story I got.

    The bankers and the govts. that they control are in full damage control right now…make your own call.

    We are regular Americans with businesses, friends, families and grandkids…I only want to be free from the tyranny that is being shoved down my throat…God bless us all.

    • DaveH
    • Lost in Paradise

      Well then stand up and fight or lose it all.

      • Lastmanstanding

        lost…then I’ll be happy to change my handle to ‘lastmenstanding’

        • Lost in Paradise

          Better to be the lastmanstanding, or dead than to be whimp under the table shaking like a leaf. I believe very strongly in this statement,”Give me Liberty or Give Me Death”. If you believe that anything short of a revolution, will save America, then you still believe in the “Tooth Fairy”

          I too wish there were a peaceful way to resolve the problem in America, but all the facts point the other way. Voting will not work, the talks have broken down several times, so now War is the only sensable solution. Pick your side, I know which one I am on!

      • Old Henry

        Fight who Lost? It’s like aniling jello to a wall or capturing a handful of smoke.

        • Lost in Paradise

          WHAT?

          • DaveH

            Nailing Jello.

    • Joe H.

      Lastmanstanding,
      I can remember my unit inserting Seals into the field in RVN in those numbers. they would stay out for three days to a week and then we would go back out and pick them up. They looked like death warmed over after the time in the field but they always got their job completed!!

    • Old Henry

      Lastman:

      The moment I heard of the death (Murder) of those SEALS my first reaction was “tit-for-tat”. That commie Muslim Kenyan had to atone for bin-Laden in order to save HIS skin.

  • Buddy

    Why settle for second best (Gary Johnson) when you can have the real McCoy?

    Ron Paul 2012!!

    “The message of most politicians on the campaign trail is ‘I will give you what you want and make someone else pay for it.’” – Don Grove Nov 2011

  • DaveH

    I’ve known that “our lying national media are almost as big a threat to our freedoms and our future as our government” for over 30 years, Chip.

  • http://Boblivingston Lyle McDaniel

    Jesus was a socialist? seems the socialists are the ones trying to have his name and crosses and the like obliterated from american life. socialist is a left footed way of saying communist.

    • Karolyn

      Actually, the way I see it is that the real meaning of socialism is equality and freedom for everyone. We are all one. Brotherly love. That is what I believe Jesus espoused.

      • Sirian

        Karolyn,
        Socialism is the first stepping stone to Communism. That is and has been in Karl Marx’s plan for a very long time. Has it worked to a point of utopian desire? Obviously not. If you might be willing to look at it from a different point of view please read “The Naked Communist” by Skousen.

      • Sirian

        Jesus wasn’t espousing anything political, please. I can not see how you can possibly tie the two together. What Jesus was preaching held no political meaning whatsoever. His words were dealing with something so far beyond politics, no wonder you are obviously having a difficult time understanding.

        • Karolyn

          I am not speaking from a political viewpoint at all but from an idealistic viewpoint regarding the way it “should” be if we did, indeed, live as brothers.

          • Joe H.

            Karolyn,
            France is a socialist country and they have just as many problems as us. Take their work rules. need a little extra money this month to buy something special and you want to put a little overtime in??? NOPE!! you can work your 32 hours and no more!!! you REALLY think that is GOOD????

      • DaveH

        What does equality mean to you, Karolyn?
        Everybody has their own unique characteristics. We play differently. We work differently. We study differently. We have different tolerance of risk. We are different in many, many ways. No amount of power and force can change that. And the reality is probably that most of the people in power know that, but say otherwise to ensnare those Dreamers who will buy into any sweet-sounding lies.
        Both the Welfare State and the Military State are simply tools of those Leaders who want to control the masses for their own benefit.

        • Karolyn

          I do agree, Dave.

      • Lastmanstanding

        you can’t live without us…we can live better without you.

      • vicki

        Karolyn writes:
        “Actually, the way I see it is that the real meaning of socialism is equality and freedom for everyone.”

        Why do you keep changing the meaning of words? It makes communicating very difficult. The real meaning of socialism is:

        ————————————————————-
        http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
        1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.

        2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
        b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

        3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done.
        ——————————————————

        There is no equality nor freedom anywhere in that definition. In fact 3: specifically says that there WILL be unequal distribution…

        We like that you are for freedom. We are concerned that you want us to all be equally miserable (see socialist and communist countries throughout history.

        Hiding your intent behind words that do not mean what you say they mean to you makes debate with you VERY difficult.

        • Joe H.

          vicki,
          Very well put!! I wonder if karolyn would be willing to relenquish a home and property that she has worked all her life for just for the ‘COLLECTIVE”????

        • DaveH

          For those who don’t know, the word Capitalism was actually coined by Karl Marx.

          • vicki

            Capitalism,” a term of disparagement coined by socialists in the mid-nineteenth century, is a misnomer for “economic individualism,” which Adam Smith earlier called “the obvious and simple system of natural liberty” (Wealth of Nations).
            http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Capitalism.html

          • vicki

            “Many scholars suggest that the term ‘Capitalism’ and its related term ‘Capitalist,’ was first derived in the English vernacular from a translation of the pejorative term used by Karl Marx in the mid to late nineteenth century to describe the class of men he called the elite “bourgeois” society who owned and controlled “society’s capital resources.”

            To students of the Founders, the philosophy of capitalism is the only moral system that guarantees to man his individual liberty, and therefore the only valid political, economic, and social standard for pursing prosperity and peace.”

            http://adamsmithslostlegacy.blogspot.com/2009/01/free-capitalist-13-january-here-carries.html

          • vicki

            Sorry i forgot to add my point. The term appears to be a poor translation of the works of K. Marks so the actual coining of the word is in the hands of the translators.

            Or perhaps this
            “The origin of the word ‘capitalist’ is of much earlier vintage: in French, A. R. J. Turgot (1727-1781) used ‘capitaliste’ in his essay, ‘Reflection on the Formation and Distribution of Wealth’ (1769-1770), and WilliamGodwin used its English version, ‘capitalist’, in his Political Justice (1794).”

            http://adamsmithslostlegacy.blogspot.com/2007/02/origins-of-word-capitalism-thackeray.htm

            What we should really pay attention to is the worldview of Adam Smith
            It sounds a LOT like libertarian in economic philosophy.

          • DaveH

            You go to great lengths to try to prove me wrong, don’t you Vicki?

          • Joe H.

            To such lengths, Dave, that when I tried to view her site it said it didn’t exhist!!!

          • vicki

            DaveH writes:
            “You go to great lengths to try to prove me wrong, don’t you Vicki?”

            Now you know that is not my intent. I simply went looking for a cite to support your assertion (so liberals wouldn’t whine about no cites). I found one that referenced just socialists so kept looking. I found one that said Karl Marks coined the phrase and also found right next to it ones that I posted showing who actually coined the phrase and how.

            Thus providing cites and peer reviewed challenges to the assertion. I thought you would be happy that I dug in just a little. :(

          • vicki

            joeH writes:
            “To such lengths, Dave, that when I tried to view her site it said it didn’t exhist!!!”

            Actually it does exist. Unfortunalty the net is VERY picky and needs the l for some pages (you know, the ones that end in .html :) )

            http://adamsmithslostlegacy.blogspot.com/2007/02/origins-of-word-capitalism-thackeray.html

            That should be the proper link.

      • Cynthia

        May I recommend the cultivation of a philosophy which simply teaches something so obvious that it hardly need be said. Look at any infant crying, screaming to have his needs met. Did he need to be taught that behavior? Did his environment adversely influence his behavior? No. I believe you’ll observe that behavior in the youngest of infants, in the best cared for of infants. Then, what is the explanation for this selfishness? The philosophy of which I speak says that the infant is born a sinner and has no ability in and of himself to change. We all fall into this category of human being until we repent of the problem: sin, and turn to the Sin Offering Who died on our behalf, Jesus Christ. That’s why self interest is the only workable economic system. This is what we refer to as capitalism. There are Christians in the past and real ones now who practice their vocation while following their Savior, with reverence of the Lord,resulting in the highest of ethical behavior with the occasional failure along the way but those not following Him can atill be trusted to make the choices best for themselves. If the Christian worldview is prevalent in the culture as it once was in this country, even the unrepentant are influenced by the behaviors of giving and caring. This is what Adam Smith refered to as the invisible hand. I can only pray that God would grant repentance to many in this nation, thereby preventing it from ending up on the ash heap of history like all the other nations in recent and past history.

  • firefight

    As I sat upon the witness stand yesterday, testifying as an expert witness in a property custody battle, I quickly became the focused target of two lawyers invasive questions. Both of these lawyers were intent on winning for their side. I quickly realized that each had a line of questioning that was predisposed to a specific answer. In other words, they were loaded and designed to get a specific response from the jury and the judge. Now I see, more vividly than ever, why we are in trouble in this nation. Most of our politicians ARE lawyers. Their only motivation is to win for their side. To hell with the two people who were trying to decide who gets what.

    As for Chip’s words about investments. Gold and silver may be fine, but they’re a little hard to chew much less swallow and if I have a MRE in my hands, you have gold and we’re both very hungry, doesn’t matter how much gold you have, you’re not getting my MRE. Simple point here. Take the time to think about basic needs. Food, water, air. These are the basics. You can last about four days without food, three days without water, but only a few minutes at most without air. Getting the picture here? Where in any of this does gold or silver figure in? My feelings are that we all should be stockpiling nonperishable foods, water supplies and praying that someone doesn’t do something to screw up the atmosphere. The only things I can think of that would be a tradable in a crisis situation would be clothing, firearms, knives and utensils and ammunition. Here again, basic things that can ensure survival. If I were starving and had something to trade you for some food, say ammunition in my right hand and some gold in my left, which would you be most likely to take in trade with the understanding that we’ve just experienced a complete economic collapse and money is worth nothing.

    • Sirian

      firefight I agree with what you’re saying but unless we’re hit with multiple EMP nukes, which will cripple the entire nation, it still may be good to be holding some gold and silver to buy food and such. Paper money will be, as it already is, totally worthless. Yet as we crawl out of the mess we will undoubtedly return to Constitutional standards of money and a Gold Buffalo or a Silver Eagle will be just as valuable as it was before. Stock up on plenty of what you said, absolutely, but having a little gold and silver wouldn’t be to bad of an idea either.

      • firefight

        Gold and silver will become of value much more during recovery, but, what will the value be? Will it be the same as it is now or will go down to $35.00 and ounce? That’s the problem along with, how much will a gallon of milk and a loaf of bread be? A gallon of milk can cost as much as $8.00 right now in parts of Alaska. I do have gold and silver saved and I don’t mean in stocks. I have it physically in my safe but am not even counting on it to sustain me and my family. I’m counting on my supplies and my guns for that.

    • Joe H.

      firefight,
      Say you have ten thousand dollars in cash right now and ten thousand dollars worth of gold. If you figure out two years from now that the $hit is about to hit the fan and want to but some non-perishable food, WHICH DO YOU THINK WILL BUY MORE FOOD??? Those dollars are gonna keep devaluing and gold is gonna keep stable or increase in value till the crap starts splattering so I would rather have the GOLD!!

      • Vicki

        Gold will tend to stay stable against other items of wealth. The value of the (fiat) paper dollar will fall causing you to need many more of them to buy the unit of gold or the unit of diamond or unit of land.

        Or even consumables like bread and milk

  • Mirage

    If life as we know it gets a lot worse, you’re not gonna need gold and silver.
    If life gets so ugly that the majority of people are starving and desperate, don’t think you’ll be able to sit around, admire your gold, and everything will be just peachy, because it won’t be.
    If the starving and desperate become the majority, they will come for what you have, and they won’t ask nicely.
    A better plan, would be to put some of that allocated “gold/silver” money into more valuable, post apocalyptic metals; lead, copper, and brass … they’re called cartridges, and when properly contained in the correct dispenser, they can be absolutely wonderful tools to convincing others, that your stuff, is well, yours.
    All you’ll need, is what you can carry.
    These things said, I don’t think life will come to this … we’ll just have to get used to a new “normal”.

    • Lost in Paradise

      Aman Mirage. You said a mouthful there. There are very few in here that can really handle the truth and reality.

      • Vicki

        I have been telling folk for a while to buy gold and silver AND lead. The lead is best bought in those cute little brass containers. :)

        • Joe H.

          only in the right dimensions, vicki, only in the right demensions. Hint: don’t buy in the dimension .45 if you need the dimension 9mm!!

          • Joe H.

            BTW, I have been saving the desicant packets from my meds and then put a couple of them along with my boxes of Ammo in vaccume sealed pouches. a guy told me they stay fresher that way!!

  • Thomas B

    I wonder if george soros has anything to do with the European collapse that looks so inevitable and thus the weakening of the US. He just made a public staement the other day that the European Staes are verge of collapse. He always seems to be close to all this action

    • DaveH

      A currency trader thrives on volatility. With stability, they can make no money. So, it stands to reason that the unscrupulous currency traders would foment instability.

  • Henry Ledbetter

    Watch out for the rising bear in Russia. They do play a role in the last days, if we have come to that point. in history. We do need to remember that “God’s ways are not our ways” as He knows the beginning and the end of all things. His way is far above anything man can offer and will never lead us to do evil.

  • Jim B

    Sorry … but when a candidate sides with abnormal and deviant behavior by promoting the homosexual agenda such is the case with Johnson … that man will never get my vote because his morals are lacking and his policies would only contribute to the further moral decay of our country.
    When I make my voting decisions it starts with a candidates moral and social stance … not with whether he makes good economic judgement’s or not. See that’s where everyone who voted for Obama went very wrong … they voted for a silver tongue orator … not a moral leader.

    • Don

      Amen to you Jim B !!!!

    • Joe H.

      Jim B,
      Then remember these few words. Ron Paul/Andrew Napolitano 2012!!!!

  • Cliffystones

    On aside note, am I the only one who thinks that Stansberry’s “videos” do a great disservice to the cause he claims to support?

    45+ minutes of text on your PC screen doesn’t constitute a video IMO. And pretty much half way through it you’re yelling at the screen “OK! get to the f-ing point already!” “If you’re selling something, then hock it already buddy!”.

    I just absolutely HAD to get that off my chest. Maybe Porter will read this and realize that he’s annoying as many people as he’s connecting with.

    • ValDM

      I’m right there with you, brother. I find the older I get the less tolerant I am of someone who thinks their time is far more valuable than my own. Life is too short to have 45+ minutes of my day wasted that I’LL NEVER GET BACK.

    • Helen2

      Thanks for saying that Cliffystones. I too have yelled at the screen to just get to the point and complained to the computer that this is NOT a video. At some point or other, I usually shut the thing off because I am tired of listening to the bs that is going on and on and on. Now, I just don’t even open it to listen to. It’s frustrating and demeaning! Thanks for letting me vent.

    • ChristyK

      I’ve gotten so frustrated with the Stansberry “videos” that I won’t have anything to do with anything from him. If he would just put the text on a page, I could read it in a quarter of the time. If he would get to the point instead of tell me what he is going to tell me, then tell me, then tell me what he told me, I think I could get all of the info in the 45 minute video in less than 5 minutes. What a total waste of time.

    • Vicki

      The way to get to the point is to try and close the video. A message will pop up asking if you want to go away. Say you want to stay and the page will open with all the video text as real text. Scroll to the bottom to find the point.

    • Old Henry

      Cliffy:

      I had the same reaction and very similar thoughts.

  • Lost in Paradise

    It seems very clear to me that we do not need the world as much as it needs us. However it is time we worry about America only, and we can survive without the rest of the world.

    But first and foremost, we must all stand up and fight like real men, and take this country from the worst damn government since this country was founded. It will mean much violence,and the greatest fight Americans have ever been involved in, to save our republic.

    I do feel that most of you will take the easiest way that is offered to you, and you know also what means. “COMMUNISM” It is not very far off, and you will need to do more than use the slogan “keep some power dry”. You will need to be using that powder in a firearm.

  • Lost in Paradise

    OH yes,that Communist regime will also come and collect all your wealth with force and loss of your life. So, if you are not willing to fight like men, then do not put a strobe light on yourselves by collecting lots of wealth and or hiding it in presious metals. Your strobe light will attract all the commy flies and they WILL get your wealth at your expense.

    As I see it, you can change the outcome, or shutup and let it all go down. You cannot change the outcome, with out some real serious effort.

  • DavidL

    I hope the European economic troubles have some impact on the US. It should teach us, as in the explicit case of Great Britain, that you cannot just cut your way out of a recession. The conservative leadership in Britain is doing just that, and their economy is stalling and heading back into recession. Talk about the penalty for forgetting history. Maynard Keynes was English for God sake.

    An engine runs on gasoline, and I promise you that the engine does not care if the gasoline it receives is private or public. IT NEEDS GASOLINE TO RUN. DUH!

    • Vicki

      Taking gasoline by force from one cylinder and giving it to another will cause the engine to run VERY rough and may even damage/destroy the engine.

    • Lost in Paradise

      Damn Dave I never knew that! Thanks!

    • DaveH
      • DaveH

        This should be intuitive for anybody who has studied politics for a while. If Politicians raise revenues they will find a way to spend them. The only way to reign their spending in is to starve them of revenues. Even then, as long as the Federal Reserve is around, it will lend them money so they can spend more.
        Vote Libertarian!
        http://libertarianparty.org/issues

  • Michael

    The video is way too long with things that are not needed. I wish he would just get to the point and forget about all the stuff that I forgot about a few days after viewing the first 10 minutes.

  • CJM

    No matter where one lives, the economic status is in trouble and the US is no exception as we all know. It’s great that folks like Stansberry can afford to pay their way out of debt and be able to purchase as much gold and silver as they can afford—but where does this leave the folks who have little, if anything, to invest? Nowhere, that’s for sure. Like AARP claims to represent all the Seniors, that is untrue–they represent only those who are in the same economic status as Stansberry is. Take a really hard look at what AARP promotes and you’ll know what I mean. Nope, not looking for a handout, but am wondering just exactly what those who “have” would really tell the folks who don’t “have.” Nor do I want to see the USA converted to a communistic nation or even look like a hint of what the UK has become…I would rather see our great Nation become what it has always been—Grand, Individualistic, A Republic, and a Global Leader.

  • simian pete

    European crisis impacting America ? That sure is happening ! Perpetual tax slavery is all they have in their future, with barely nothing in return.

    So how is this going to impact the lower economic class in America ? The middle class is evaporating.

    How can one prepare when one is “broke” ? Hard Work and the application of financial knowledge. This means extreme effort… their is no other choice.

    • Lost in Paradise

      You worry way too much about what “Class” Definition of most Middle Class, Those who chose to party instead of graduate from High School, and are mostly dumb as a post anyway, with poor work ethics and constanly complaning of not having enough, who were elevated to a higher wage unreasable, by joining a vicious gang,called a Union.

      Then there is the smaller side of Middle Class, those that worked hard to get educated, and worked very hard at doing their best at their job, to move to a higher wage level. I would suspect this part would be mostly Conservative in their thinking.

  • DaveH

    Important for Freedom Lovers:
    http://gunowners.org/a12022011.htm

  • Donald Cleveland

    It never ceases to appall when I read or hear about people or politicians wraping themselves in the US constitution as being something original or unique. To put it another way your government is spending trillions to promote democracy in the world. Are you the all media crazy. You Americans – I was educated with an MBA at Harvard – don’t understand that they are only 300,000,000 people. The Commonwealth of Nations( British) is over 3,000,000,000 people and Britain has no constitution other than the Magna Carta of Runnymede in 1215 AD. I fought alongside American troops in Italy. They are excellent, although I was wounded by friendly fire of six American Republic P-47s in Italy. Your populace is generally under educated. I have done and do business in many countries in this world and have met no one who likes America in my 65 years of travel and war. Like individual Americans, of course? You are borrowing 41-50 cents of every dollar you spend and printing money to pay your bills. We will all pay for it with martial law to stop riots and looting in the streets. This will repeat human cycles in history like Rome, but not England. Solution: require minimum education for your politicians to hold office including history, but martial law is it. See you there. Don

    • Joe H.

      donald,
      you speak against Americans, but where would your illustrius monarchy/ democracy have been had the US not come to your rescue in WW2??? I have a few friends that are first generation americans from England a dna few I converse with over the net and I think every one of them would laugh in your overeducated face!! How many colonies has Brittian been kicked out of?? Nuff said??

      • Joe H.

        BTW Donald, how many pistols or rifles or even knives do you own??? Say you don’t need them? What about that screwball that got hold of the fully automatic weapon and started shooting in london?? Even the bobbies had NOTHING tosubdue him with but a whistle!! I don’t know about him, but that whistle would sure scare the hell out of ME if all I had was a fully automatic weapon!!! NOT!

    • JC

      Donald has some good points although I’m not sure who he is directing responsibility at with the “you Americans” annotation. If he is trying to point out that the government of the United States Inc. is corrupt…then, yes we get that. If he is trying to say that the British Empire is somehow superior or that the Magna carta is superior
      to the Constitution of the USofA…then he’s proposing a laughable premise. The British throughout history have shown themselves to be among the most bloodthirsty, barbaric people ever to don the the veil of civility. And in this day and age they are leading the way towards the decline of the west with their sheep like compliance to disarmament and apathy to the loss of their own rights and liberties.
      God help them.
      We on the other hand have the right to keep and bear as well as the “our own” Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
      So Joe, our days of rescuing the British may not be over yet, but we have to clean up our own back yard first.

      • DaveH

        I would like to comment, but I couldn’t understand most of what Donald was trying to say, lol. Harvard Educated?

      • Lost in Paradise

        Excellent post JC.

      • Joe H.

        JC,
        I agree, but i get real tired of people from other countries telling me how bad our country and its people are when we have come to their rescue and their country is TWICE as bad as ours!! The British have lost so many rights they don’t even know what freedom IS!! Tell HIM to clean up HIS back yard!!

  • Bruce

    GOLDMAN SAKS,
    GOLDMAN SAKS,
    GOLDMAN SAKS, = FED, FED, FED, = ROTHSCHILDS.
    Get it?

    • JC

      The IMF and Bank for International Settlements = The Federal Reserve, the Bank of Canada, England, Australia, the Bundesbank,et;al = the UN, NATO, the CFR and on and on…

      End the Central Banks and you cut the head off the hydra.

      • DaveH

        Yep. There should be no money that isn’t backed by hard assets, and banks should compete freely without Government involvement.

        • vicki

          other than making sure that everyone is honest I agree that government should stay out of it.

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    If Not Now, When?
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