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Eric Holder: Too Many Guns Have Fallen Into Wrong Hands

December 30, 2011 by  

Eric Holder: Too Many Guns Have Fallen Into Wrong Hands

Attorney General Eric Holder, whose Department of Justice orchestrated the Fast and Furious gunwalking scheme to supply Mexican drug cartels with illegal firearms, released a statement on Wednesday decrying the fact that too many people who are not legally permitted to own guns have access to them.

The AG’s remarks followed the release of a report from the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund that showed a 13 percent increase in the number of Federal, State and local officers who died in the line of duty, from 153 in 2010 to 173 in 2011.

“This is a devastating and unacceptable trend. Each of these deaths is a tragic reminder of the threats that law enforcement officers face each day — and the fact that too many guns have fallen into the hands of those who are not legally permitted to possess them,” said Holder. “Departments across the country have mourned the loss of too many dedicated colleagues and friends, but my colleagues and I at the Justice Department are determined to turn back this rising tide. I want to assure the family members and loved ones who have mourned the loss of these heroes that we are responding to this year’s increased violence with renewed vigilance and will do everything within our power — and use every tool at our disposal — to keep our police officers safe.”

Guns provided via Fast and Furious are known to have been used in the killings of at least one law enforcement officer in 2010, U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, and another in 2011, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agent Jaime Zapata.

Holder’s statement came with the announcement of a number of new officer-protection initiatives to be headed by the Justice Department.


Sam Rolley

Staff writer Sam Rolley began a career in journalism working for a small town newspaper while seeking a B.A. in English. After learning about many of the biases present in most modern newsrooms, Rolley became determined to find a position in journalism that would allow him to combat the unsavory image that the news industry has gained. He is dedicated to seeking the truth and exposing the lies disseminated by the mainstream media at the behest of their corporate masters, special interest groups and information gatekeepers.

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  • http://deleted Claire

    So Holder thinks too many guns have fallen into the wrong hands–my answer to this is “No sh-t Sherlock.” He should know all about this–he contributed towards this issue. So why is this guy still in office? Holder should be thrown out. I am weary of politicians that “get by” with the crap they pull and come out smelling like a rose.

    • Vagabond

      no Clair. he shouldn’t be thrown out. he should be thrown in. the federal prison at hard labor for 40 years and one day. further more he should be put in with general poppulation. can you just immagine the fun those other prisoners could have with that SLIMEBALL??

      • Lastmanstanding

        I’ll buy him a new sledgehammer and a metal bowl for gruel so taxpayers don’t have to.

      • eddie47d

        Sure Eric Holder is a hypocrite and feel free to draw and quarter him but what about all the other gun runners in the good ol’ US of A?Why do you turn a blind eye to all the other crimes committed by illegal gun sales. They have been running their scams long before Fast and Furious and nary a peep out of any of you. Gun crimes in Mexico have been traced to Arizona and Texas on a few occasions but nary a peep. Gun crimes have been traced in New York City from gun dealers in the Carolina’s but nary a peep. They traced gun crimes in Guatemala to dealers in Colorado yet nary a peep. When you all take your blinders off then maybe more folks will listen.

        • cawmun cents

          When you create an environment that due to liberalism,is more friendly to criminals than it is to victims of crime,then you have these conditions.

        • Dennis48e

          “……… all the other crimes committed by illegal gun sales.”

          eddie you make this claim every time a discussion of gun control comes up but have yet to provide one iota of proof of your claims.

          • vicki

            That is because Eddie47d has no proof. Much like Holder (and other liberals we know and love (to poke) ) he just says stuff hoping someone, somewhere will believe.

        • s c

          Damn! It must be raining ice cream bars at both poles, e. However, the advice you mentioned is worthless if YOU don’t follow it yourself. That is, take off those effing BLINDERS.
          HOLDER, who works for that false god in the White House, CAN’T do what he does without Obummer’s PERMISSION! Will we hear nary a peep, e? Is hypocrisy still your religion, or can you do the right thing ON YOUR OWN?

          • eddie47d

            I’ve condemned Holder several times on Fast and Furious and right here on this site okay Dr Mengeles (SC). No blinders here but you better remove yours. This whole thing is like Ronnie Reagan not knowing a thing about Iran-Contra. Maybe he did and maybe he didn’t so the same for Obama until proven differently.

        • Ol504Troop

          Eddie, put the crack pipe down, Sunshine. You are obviously blinded by the big media hyperbole claiming “99% of guns used in crimes in Mexico can be traced to the US”. The number is actually less than 18% -the number of guns TRACED – the US is the ONLY country that has a database to trace guns sold. Countries like China (where most of the full-auto AK clones come from) do not have that capability, so guess what – no trace. Many of the guns are stolen, sold, or given from the Mexican military & police. The rest are bought from foreign gun dealers.

          • eddie47d

            Last year the same argument was used and the commenters said all the guns came from Eastern Europe. Please get your stories straight…sunshine…then come back. Now I’ve heard anywhere up to 89% come from this country but even 18% is a bunch so what are you doing about that? I say you are afraid to confront the problem and Holder is your new scapegoat to cover up past flaws.

          • JeffH

            eddie just continues to lie in order to “save face”.

            Case in point: “Last year the same argument was used and the commenters said all the guns came from Eastern Europe.”

            Nobody ever said all of the guns came from eastern europe. Yes, you were shown that there are international gun runners who supply all types of weapons smuggled into Mexico through Colombia and central America but no one but YOU has ever made that staement…right now as a matter of fact. You hear a lot and you keep “quoting” fiures from Feinstein, Brady, Bloomberg and the DOJ…and you are proven wrong each time. The boogie man here is in your mind eddie…in your mind.

          • eddie47d

            No lie Jeff you only have a poor memory and a sinister mind.

          • JeffH

            It’s just too easy for you to keep lying isn’t it eddie.

          • eddie47d

            To put it bluntly Jeff .WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.Why do you bear so much false witness against others. You have a very dangerous mind and stick to the name calling in your constant attacks. You are on scary creep.

          • JeffH

            eddie, you can dish it out but you can’t take….”bare false witness”?
            You even lie about that! Everything I said to you is 100% the truth, despite your denial and don’t give me you pitifull whimpering about name callin. You are absolutley the hypocrit where name calling is involved. Deny it! You’ve made things personal eddie, not just with myself, but with every honest and moral person that has been attacked by you…yeah, I said attacked…new posters and old, you don’t distinguish…something said that you don’t like? Whammo, you immediatley go into your childish name calling mode. You’re a fake eddie, a phony who has an excuse for everything you do or say, right or wrong. Admit it, your just envious of others here and that is the only way you can get noticed…love the negative attention.
            You reap what you sow eddie, you deserve everything you get. Quit cryin’ and feeling like you have to “champion all things liberal”.
            Grow up and be a man, stand on your own two feet and maybe, just maybe life t PLD will change for you…naw, you love the attention.

            Miserable is a good thing, though. If you start the day miserable, nobody else can screw up your day.
            Jake Roberts

          • eddie47d

            I have never lied about you Jeff and I sincerely try and never lie about anything. So you are a double jerk and a complete AZZ. You can spin it anyway you want for you can’t get your stories straight anymore than the rest. You desperately lie about the NBP’s and to you if you tell a lie often enough it becomes the truth. You pull that same crap with me.

          • JeffH

            eddie, this is another flat out lie: “I have never lied about you Jeff and I sincerely try and never lie about anything.”

            Well how about this…all fabricated lie by you eddie.

            August 19, 2011 at 7:27 pm
            If someone is not a Libertarian (according to Jeff and maybe Jana)they have to be a communist.

            August 20, 2011 at 11:25 pm
            We do see Jeff and Dave H. making personal threats (mostly mocking) against those they disagree with. That is everyday right Dave?

            August 20, 2011 at 11:25 pm
            We do see Jeff and Dave H. making personal threats (mostly mocking) against those they disagree with. That is everyday right Dave?

            August 21, 2011 at 11:39 am
            Dave H can be a liar and a slanderer.As a matter of fact Jeff can also be a liar and a slanderer. You keep on doing it so I will assume the rest of us will have to put up with your occasional “fib”. I love when Dave says he didn’t say something when the words are right there in print. I may be misinterpreted in what I say but I won’t say that it wasn’t my words like Dave does.

            eddie constantly denies he’s been caught lying…
            August 21, 2011 at 5:08 pm
            Can you substantiate my apparent lies Jeff? WE are all waiting with baiting breath to see what you can come up with next. Your wild accusations are like a cannon ball rolling down a hill looking for a place to land. You are either obsessed or mentally unstable.

            August 21, 2011 at 11:49 am
            WE(Eddie believes he speaks for everyone else) means everyone on this site Jeff or do you live in a bubble? Am I a liar? Apparently you think so and shout it from the roof top. If someone says something you don’t like doesn’t make that person a liar. If you can’t come up with a comment that proves me wrong then there is no lie. The lie would only be in your hurt feelings when you can’t prove me wrong.You slash and burn with slander(calling me a liar) instead of presenting the “correct answer” or don’t you have any correct answers from your own thoughts.

            In response to Eddies denial of being a liar DaveH posted this comment which openly confirmed Eddie’s lie:
            August 21, 2011 at 1:49 pm
            You said this, Eddie, you lying slanderer — “We do see Jeff and Dave H. making personal threats (mostly mocking) against those they disagree with. That is everyday right Dave?”.
            Here is the link to the comment where Eddie said that:

            Now eddie lies again and denies it after being proven a liar!
            eddie47d says:
            September 16, 2011 at 11:23 am
            I see Jeff is still playing his silly troll game of hysterical nonsense. I don’t know if a doctor has a cure for your malaise but seek help. Now once again since I didn’t lie that makes you the liar.Now can you wrap your tiny mind around that?

            Eddie says: September 29, 2011 at 3:20 pm
            You never prove me a liar even though you keep insisting it’s true
            eddie47d says:
            October 12, 2011 at 12:41 pm
            The difference Jibbs is that I present facts each and everyday and SC never provides any. So get off your high horse and quit lying. Now if you don’t like my facts then disagree with them but don’t call me a liar until you do so. You are one sad lonely puppy in making up stories.

            November 29, 2011 at 3:09 pm
            What you say about me is a lie in itself and you have been spreading that lie for some time now. Your game playing has long passed the threshold of decency and smells like week old garbage.

            eddie47d says:
            December 30, 2011 at 4:31 pm
            ….You come up with the most obnoxious crap in defense of racism and out yourself everytime.

          • eddie47d

            Jeff needs to quite picking and choosing and leaving the rest of the comment out. Still no lie Jeff only a manipulated interpretation. Better luck next time with that commie tactic which is now a right wing one.

          • JeffH

            eddie says wah, wah, wah and then baaa, baaaa, baaaaa. That’s right eddie I pick and choose only your lies and as you well know I have a list of them. It’s a given that you’ll try to deny. Every regular poster knows you lie too.

        • Kate8

          eddie – You continually attempt to justify Obama’s lies and high crimes by pointing out that it’s been done before. WTH?

          Sure, politicians lie and commit treason every day, and it’s been escalating for a century. It’s a terrible shame that the media has protected them and the American people have yawned and gone back to sleep.

          But how does this excuse the current crop of treasonous sell-outs? We’ve never been in such dire straits as we are now, so close to losing everything to the corporate cabal which dictates every move made by Odumbo and the other lackeys who are ostensibly in charge.

          It’s well past time to hold the office of POTUS and the other branches accountable. If we continue to give them a pass because “they all do it”, then we surely deserve what we have and what’s coming.

          You on the Left are guilty of treason, also, by turning a blind eye to the crimes perpetrated on the American people by both parties regarding the cover-up of Obama’s true history, and refusal to look at who’s behind him and their true intent for America.

          Well, congratulations. It’s well past the tipping point now, and there’s not much left but to hold on tight and come to terms with our mortality, because everything is now in place and they are about to reveal themselves as the wolves they are.

          Obama is making good on his promise to do an end-run around the 2nd Amendment, and he’s claimed the authority to use whatever means they have at their disposal to take out anyone he so chooses, with absolutely no accountability. Most likely, since they pretty well know who the gun-owners are and their GPS, they’ll just be taken out by stealth, having already been proclaimed homeland terrorists.

          Don’t think that because you defend these vipers that you are safe. They care no more for you that they do those who actively oppose them. Now that they’ve used people like you to gain their positions of power, you’ve become a drag on the system.

          Laugh at me and the others who can see through their smokescreens, but you won’t be laughing long. I guarantee it.

          • eddie47d

            I don’t justify anyone’s lies but since you are on the bandwagon in blaming the left then I will gladly bring in all the right wing scoundrels who travel this country. Remember the cop killing Sovereign Nation and Christian Identity Movement.There are those on the right WHO ARE homeland terrorists and should be charged with treason or do you care. Why don’t you do something novel like exposing their misdeeds Along with those of the left and then you would be more credible.

          • Kate8

            eddie – If you had read not just this post, but ALL of my posts, I’ve always included BOTH parties. Yet, time after time, you proceed to justify the misdeeds of those now in charge (which happen to be the Left) by pointing out that the Right is guilty, too.

            Let me state this yet again: BOTH PARTIES ARE WHOLLY CORRUPT AND ARE BUT TWO HEADS OF THE SAME BEAST. Can you hear me now, eddie?

            I won’t be holding my breath.

          • eddie47d

            You know when you say “the left is guilty of treason” it pretty much makes it one sided. Now tell me what you think about the maniacs on the right who kill or do damages in the name of the right. That was my point not whether you like Democrats or Republicans for that’s too easy and generic.

          • Kate8

            eddie – I’ve noticed that what you do is continually use the Progressve (aka communist) tactic of ignoring the point and clouding the issue by firing back accusations of your own.

            Sorry, ol’ chap, but that doesn’t cut it anymore. You are but a useful idiot who’s usefulness is about to run out.

          • Joe H.

            Oh, I don’t know, he makes for pretty good comedy relief!!! Just think what eddie has to go through every day if he actually believes this CRAP he spews. Have you seen the new progressive insurance commercials with Flo in front of the mirrors?? That’s eddie he has to convine himself each and every day that what he is falling for is even REAL!!!

          • eddie47d

            You totally ignored my point Kate so is that a Fascist Republican tactic? Go blow smoke up someone elses posterior and take Joe H blow with you.

          • Kate8

            What point, eddie? That politicians are corrupt? Or that I don’t point out the corruption on the right?

            Hows this: There is not one Republican running for office that I would vote for. They are all liars and work for the NWO. I’d have an easier time picking the one or two I can half way stomach.

            It would be a cold day in h*ll before I’d vote for a Democrat, because I find everything they even claim to stand for repugnant.

            So, if you had some other point, I don’t know what it is. Do you?

          • Matt Newell

            Eddie, I know nothing of the two groups you mentioned, but I DO know about the people who are in control right now. If either group has done something illegal — they should be punished. It is up to the people to do that NOT the unelected or by the unconstitutional methods being used by the current administration.

        • Starvin Larry

          Some of your claims are nonsense-
          The 18% figure is a lot closer to the truth than the 90% LIE!
          The 90% was of guns SUBMITTED for tracing-guns that were not made in the U.S. were NOT submitted for tracing.

          The Mexican cartels prefer full-auto-military grade weapons-NONE of which are for sale in U.S. gun shops.

          As for your gun dealers in other states supplied guns used in crimes in NY,or wherever else-were those guns actually sold to the criminals? NO-the original sale was made at the FFL (federal firearms licensee)in the state where the FFL is located.
          The only thing that tracing a firearm proves is where and when it was sold to the original owner-how many of the guns used in crimes were stolen from the owners? How many had been sold multiple times? How many were purchased for the criminals by “straw buyers” who could legally buy them?
          All this BS about the Mexican cartels getting their guns from gun shops on the border is BS-sure-they may send someone to get a few semi-auto guns in the U.S.-but…as they prefer full-auto-those are NOT purchased at any U.S. gun shop-so why punish U.S. gun owners for things they had nothing to do with?
          Remember-in the Fast and Furious fiasco-the U.S. gun dealers did NOT want to allow the sales-BATFE coerced them into allowing the sales.
          Internal BATFE e-mails show that they wanted to use fast and furious as a way to gain support for more gun control among other things.

          Holder,and the entire chain of command at BATFE and DOJ should be fired,and sent to prison for this BS.

        • eddie47d

          Where is your proof Vicki and Dennis that it is not happening? Talk is worth about a nickle with you two …hmmmm. The thing is why would anyone believe you if you can’t prove otherwise. Look up Badger Guns if you want that door opened.

          • JeffH

            eddie, eddie…you have never provided one shred of proof in your life, but just like Flashy and the restof the liberal trolls you like to ask for proof. The fact is that you are an envious hypocritical fraud just like the rest of them…but keep it up because you do like the attention, negative as it is…it’s still attention.

            My pappy always said excuses were for losers and you’re always full of excuses.

          • eddie47d

            I prove plenty Jeff and every day so lay off the kool aid and your bucket full of lies.

          • Buster the Anatolian

            eddie the only proof you ever provide is your opinion never any links or hard sources

          • JeffH

            POLLY want a cracker? baaarrraaakkk! I hear you echoing off the wall…echo, echoo, echooooooo….

          • Joe H.

            As you are always saying to me, Put up or SHUT UP!!! Show me the site!!! Where is your site you are always telling ME to provide??? WHAT??? Don’t have one???

          • eddie47d

            Because I supply facts Joe not continuous slander like you do. If there is anything I say that you dispute prove otherwise. Look it up instead of making smartazz remarks. Challenge me for a change instead of the typical dead end smear. Is that possible??

          • eddie47d

            What are you talking about Joe? I don’t support Holder on Fast and Furious so stop playing dumb and dumber all at once!

          • JeffH

            eddie, your life one great big lie for you to even say this, although at this point it’s not unexpected.

            eddie47d says:

            December 30, 2011 at 9:31 pm

            Because I supply facts Joe not continuous slander like you do. If there is anything I say that you dispute prove otherwise. Look it up instead of making smartazz remarks. Challenge me for a change instead of the typical dead end smear. Is that possible??

            What you just said is a complete contradiction to what you do!
            I’m telling you eddie, your life has to be one great big lie.

          • vicki

            Eddie47d tells us to “lookup Badger guns” as his proof of something. So I did.

            Proof that badgergunsinc is a company with a website and that they claim to sell guns. Was there a point in there Eddie47d?

          • eddie47d

            There you go again Jeff. Now download what Joe said and let folks know why I said that about him. You are so damn dishonest in not telling the whole story.

          • eddie47d

            Sorry for the confusion Vicki. I should have known better than to think any site on a company would bring up any negative issues they have. They all hide and deceive.

          • JeffH

            edie, sorry but Joe H is trustworth unlike you and besides that he didn’t lie like you do.

            As for your “Badger Gun” arguement, every gun they sold was sold to legal buyers and the only reason their FFL was revoked was because of paperwork violations. Don’t you tink they would be indicted for a felony otherwise. I know that’s too difficult for you to understand but what isn’t.

          • Matt Newell

            It appears to me that the crimes they did have come back to bite them in the a**. I believe they are going to be jailed as the extent of their crimes becomes more visible. I also believe it might take several years for that to happen since politics is involved and that causes the time to bring a case to trial to get longer and longer. The other problem is that is it takes too long the statue of limitation gives them a free ride (again politics in action — why a statue of limitation at all?)

          • libertytrain

            Matt – I’m sure you meant “statute.”

        • Joe H.

          There IS a huge difference!!! Holder is paid by the people to STOP gun runners!!! He isn’t paid to BECOME one!!!! He orders people arrested for the very things he is responsible for!!! I HOPE they put his azz in the federal pen! He won’t be worth a plug nickle if they do!!

        • Ranchman

          You need to search the FBI’s own database on supposed “gun traces.” Very few of the guns sold in sporting goods stores are turned around and illegally sold to outlaws, it just doesn’t wash. You also need to research just how many firearm related deaths there are annually compared to other murder weapons. Not to mention that firearm related fatalities have dropped sharply over the past several years. Leftists like you always want to cry wolf whenever the issue of American gun ownership is brought up, yet if you were attacked by some thug brandishing a knife or some other weapon, even if it wasn’t a gun, you would be the first to blame the police for not rushing to your aid with their own guns drawn. Do not attempt to rob me of my God given right to self defense of myself and loved ones because of your misplaced fear or because you cannot be trusted with a firearm yourself. Don’t project your assinine, psychotic, misplaced paranoia on me…I don’t appreciate it at all. Keep your delusions to yourself.

    • wandamurline

      He should be accused of terrorism and put into GITMO without a lawyer and detained until he can be tried by a military tribunal and then when convicted, put in front of a firing squad.

      • Donna

        Firing squad is the answer……no if’s and’s or but’s

        Obummer is apart of this and they should both go together

        Sorry scheming lying muslim trash has and is out to destroy the USA.

        Burning at the stake would be good with national TV coverage!

        • Franko

          Sorry, but firing squad is NOT the answer – that would be way too painless… unless your version of firing squad is give some long guns to 8 year olds who have never shot before and point the rifles in the right direction – they may hit once or twice, but probably not in the intended spot – let them practice, they will get better!

          • Joe H.

            Yeah franko, that’s the way!! Let 8 year olds do it!! ARE YOU FREAKIN SICK???

  • s c

    Part of this problem is due to Washington’s insistence that a Washington lawyer is ‘perfect.’ Supposedly, Washington lawyers are divine and infallible. Yes, I know. Some people need to be institutionalized, too.
    In Holder’s case, he seems to be an example of that rare breed that combines a natural criminal talent with almost unlimited power. Most mortals never get that close to a perfect legal storm, but Holder could be said to be in the middle of the damned thing.
    At some point, Holder will screw up bad enough that his present handler can’t protect him. When that happens, it would be comparable to a scene where a match is close to a leaking gasoline can. It will be worthy of many photographs and widespread coverage – whether America’s worthless, prostitute media wants to do the job or not. Somewhere there are strong bars and a small cell waiting for The Holder. Maybe he’ll make new friends, too.

    • Vigilant

      What Holder has done makes John Mitchell look like a boy scout. Difference: Mitchell went to prison, Holder is still on the streets.

    • Warrior

      You don’t think eric is setting up another attack on the 2nd Amendment do you?

      • Lastmanstanding

        if barry gets re-elected they will come like there is no tommorrow. In fact, be sure to check out the repubs stance or lack of regarding our arms.

        Ron Paul is the fork in the road or we will have failed our kids.

        • JustSayin

          Knew I couldn’t get more than half way down the page before an RP supporter had to try to invent a connection. Everyone else wants to see Holder gone too, not just RP. You guys really just clutter up these pages anymore.

          • vicki

            If what you say is true, why is Holder still there? Holder is not the top of the chain.

            Meanwhile to see why we think he is a good choice.

          • Joe H.

            JUST FOR YOU: RON PAUL/ANDREW NAPOLITANO 2012!! Don’t like it? TOUGH!! I hope every R. Paul supporter here, posts it!!!

      • Bud in GA.

        Damn Straight he is. Warrior, you read it like I do.

      • independant thinker

        Of course Holder is posturing and getting preparing new attacks on the 2nd.

      • JUKEBOX

        I noticed on the news this morning that a group of black ministers are calling for Sheriff Joe to resign, backing up Holder’s Kangaroo Court investigationof this patriot. Does anybody think that possibly all of these things directed at Joe are related to the release of Joe’s investigation into Barry’s real birthplace?

        • Lastmanstanding

          these guys will stop at nothing to what they have been working at for over 100 years…if they can’t get it done now…THEY ARE FINISHED AND THEY KNOW IT!!!

          We must not let them enslave our kids and grandkids.

        • Kate8

          JUKEBOX – Sheriff Joe is courageous, indeed, to take on such a big endeavor in trying to actually uphold his sworn duty to protect and defend the Constitution and his country. I pray that it doesn’t end up costing him dearly, because he’s gone up against ruthless agents who will stop at nothing to create absolute mayhem in order to accomplish their goals.

          One has to wonder if we’ll ever see the results of his investigation.
          Unless they plan to use it to further incite revolution.

          • Joe H.

            Problem is, REVOLUTION = MARTIAL LAW!!! Maybe that is EXACTLY what they WANT!!

          • Kate8

            Without a doubt, Joe H.

            It would seem that we are sliding into martial law, anyway, bit by bit.

          • JeffH

            Joe H., I have no doubt. Why else would Obama and company encourage the OWS scourge,

        • Ranchman

          It absolutely because of Sheriff Joe’s investigation into Barry Soetoro’s birth certificate. As soon as ol” Joe took the case (at the request of his constituents, I might add) I knew he was going to be villified by the fraud that is Obama, or whatever his name really is. Man, I hate Obama, just as much as I hate islam.

  • Steve

    Holder, Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Feinstein, Boxer, Schumer, Durbin, etc etc, Anti-American Scumbags each and every one of them!!!

    • RockyRoad

      You forgot McCain. One of the co-sponsors of the NDAA.

      • Kate8

        Rocky – Indeed. The vote was 73/100.

        • Kate8

          Oops. Sorry. That should have been 93/100.

        • Jazzabelle

          I believe it was 93/100 !

          • Jazzabelle

            Sorry–crossed ya!

  • warren

    How stupid is that comment coming from his mouth? WOuldn’t that be like a drug dealer complaing there are too many drugs in the streets? The government was the supplier for ALL these illegal guns…

    • wandamurline

      But, we are just complaining because he is black….is that not a bunch of bull?

      • JUKEBOX

        I wish that all of you people would cease and desist from calling all of these 1/4, 1/2 white politicians “BLACK”. Please call them what they are: “MIXED RACE”.

      • vicki

        He’s black? I thought he just had a good suntan.

    • Vigilant

      Remember, Holder’s comments come from the “man” who refuses to apologize to the relatives of Brian Terry.

    • eddie47d

      As disgusting as Fast and Furious was Warren not ALL guns used by the Cartels came from this operation. This has been going on for at least a decade and probably much longer. There are skunks in every business and gun distributors are no different.

      • Dennis48e

        True. Most of the firearms used by the cartels are purchased on the international black market not in the US.

    • Mo Detective

      I realize that Holder is responsible for the “Fast and Furious” debacle; however what he is attempting to argue is that these officers were murdered with stolen guns or by psychos who owned guns. The problem with these complaints comes when the US Attorneys offices put out memorandums to local LE offices stating the criteria for convicting a “Felon in Possession of a Firearm” has changed. This being said they were refusing to accept clear cut cases because they didn’t meat the criteria. Meaning felons, who had firearms or, as previously allowed, the ammunition for said firearms in their possession, would not be punished because they did not admit the gun was theirs. I know at least three of those officers were killed by Felons who were in possession of stolen or illegally purchased for them.

  • Lee Watson

    Why is this guy not in jail yet??? Unreal!!!

    • MRMO


  • Jim Macklin

    Not said, were these LEO deaths from gunshot or traffic accidents? On subject of Fast & Furious, why would the Mexican gangs leave the guns used at the death scene of officer Terry? Seems to me it was a plan that an America officer was to die and the gun left , it wasn’t about track guns to gangs, it was about the attempt to increase public pressure for more gun control.

    • RockyRoad

      Good call Jim. That actually makes sense.

      • Lastmanstanding

        and is the truth.


      They were probably paid to do so by Obama’s or Holder’s “DISCRETIONARY FUNDS”.

  • Ellen

    Anything to get out of serving time, you little weasel bastard! You played a big part in the death of Brian Terry, you scumbag!!


    Well the family members of these fallen hero’s can thank Obama and Eric Gun Running to the Drug Cartel Holder. See Obummer and Holder were in charge while this increase happened. I would not be suprised if these guys are also giving guns to Criminals as they walk out of our Prisons. They are to blame completely for this increase. IT HAPPENED UNDER THEIR WATCH.

  • Jon Ayres

    Especially with the help of AG Holder. The justice system in the US has been broken for a long time. Instead of punishing those who break the law, judges now just pat them on the back as say poor misguided darlings. Spend a couple of years in prison where you can learn more criminal tactics to get away with committing crime and then release them back onto the street. When it has been proven a person murdered another without any doubt, then string them up in public as an example.

    Judges today make rulings based on the political party affiliation of whoever appointed them instead of based on the US Constitution, State Constitution, or local laws. It does not matter whether the judge is Republican, Democrat, Independent or Greene party from Mars, ruling should be based on the Constitution, State Constitution or local ordinances depending of the judge’s jurisdiction. Just look at how presidents try stacking the deck by appointments to the Supreme Court. Thank God, most Republican judges tend to follow the Constitution otherwise crooks like Obama and Holder would have destroyed this country a long time ago. Holder should be sitting in jail right now, but them his buddy Obama would just pardon his lying crooked tail.

  • sid lumpkin

    I think Jim might have a logical point?

  • Douglas Morris

    well, perhaps Mr. Holder should stop making ATF and DEA Agents allow felons to aquire such weapons.

    IF Gunshow dealeas are knowingly selling guns to questionable people, THEY should be jailed for aiding and abetting and punished accordingly.
    NOT the legal Free American practicing his God Given Right of self defense, defense of others and defense Liberty and property.

    Mr Holder would NOT pass a background check today, do you think that stops HIM?


    • independant thinker

      Douglas gun show dealers are NOT the problem the same rules apply to a dealers gun show sale as apply to one from his place of business. The dealer HAS to do a background check on each firearm he sells no matter where he sells it and BATF checks to see if his records are in order periodicaly.

    • eddie47d

      Where there is a will there is a way.

      • independant thinker

        Exactly eddie the criminal WILL get his gun no matter how strict our laws are and even if private ownership of firearms is banned so we do not need new restrictions we need enforcement of the current laws such as the supposed automatic 5 years in the federal pen for a felon caught with a firearm in his posession.

        • Joe H.

          independant thinker,
          Look at London England. guns are outlawed there yet that whakko a few months ago got a fully auto and started popping people!! Even the police (bobbies) didn’t have fire power to stand up to him!!!

          • independant thinker

            I believe that is what I said Joe H that even if guns are banned the criminal will still have them.

          • Joe H.

            Yes, I was just backing up your statement.

      • eddie47d

        That should also go for rouge gun dealers like those in Milwaukee who sold under the table. Those guns from Badger Guns in Oct 2010 were used to injure two cops. Badger Guns had several incidences like this where buyers were linked to crimes.

        • JeffH

          eddie, just more cheap talk…provide the proof!

          ( – The federal government confirms it is investigating New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s sting operation against gun dealers in five states.

          I’m gonna take a shot here and figure you got your info from Bloomberg’s “Mayors Against Illegal Guns Coalition” ‘Rogue Gun Sting’ program against gun dealers in five states which, by the way, was itself under investigation by the ATF for possible gun law violations for obstruction of justice relating to Bloomberg’s “rogue” operation.

        • JeffH

          …and eddie, if Badger Guns is all you have it’s a pretty weak arguement.

          ATF investigators were back in 2010. Officials denied Adam Allan’s license renewal after finding violations, the Journal Sentinel reported in December.

          The ATF generally is not allowed to disclose violations because of secrecy laws passed by Congress that protect gun dealers.

          Badger Guns Adam Allan said the agency found minor paperwork violations. Former ATF officials have said there are no other violations but paperwork found during inspections, and sometimes they indicate a serious problem.

          After two Milwaukee polices officers were shot in mid-2009, Flynn ordered an operation outside of Badger Guns. Officers discovered that felons frequented Badger Guns, with some even practicing on the shooting range, which is against the law. Federal law does not require gun shops to run background checks on people using gun ranges.

          “I know there will be a lot of people who won’t be sad to see Badger Guns go away,” West Milwaukee Police Chief Dennis Nasci said. “But as I say, it is better to know your evil than not, especially if that is someone willing to work with you. I am not painting Adam as evil, but we know the relationship we have with him.”

          • eddie47d

            I think you helped prove my point Jeff. I love the old minor paper work excuse. Works every time for cases like this. I noticed you left out the fact (you know how those pesky little facts can be). That 4 OTHER police officers were shot with guns from Badger Guns. Since you want to push this issue Officers Vidal Colon was shot April 11,2009;Graham Kunish and Bryan Norberg were shot on June 9,2009 and James Jekanoski on September 30,2009. You can downplay these killings all you want and call me a liar all you want. Anyone here can look this up and prove how malicious you can be against me. I Know Jeff …they Ain’t facts unless you bring them up.

          • Buster the Anatolian

            No eddie JeffH proved the system works. He pointed out thaqt the gun store’s license to sell firearms was not renewed by ATF.

          • eddie47d

            He proved no such thing so are you afraid of my facts which you say I never provide.

          • Joe H.

            suggest you read the third sentence in JeffHs post above. If you have ANY reading comprehension at all, you will see it says “officials refused Adam Allens licence renewal”! Early senility???

          • Joe H.

            BTW, eddie, you PROVED nothing. All you did was post! You sited no site to comfirm what you said!!!

          • Buster the Anatolian

            As usual all eddies “facts” come only from his imigination.

          • eddie47d

            Still afraid of a little reality in the gun world ?

          • JeffH

            eddie says “Still afraid of a little reality in the gun world ?” It is you that is afraid eddie, only you, and maybe denisso.

  • Todd Hunger

    The gun runners at ATF and drug runners at DEA need to be dismantled as federal agencies. Holder MUST BE Prosecuted!!!

    • ddh

      We have too many law enforcement agencies, like our Government has too many depts.,It muddies the waters, hides illegal actions, manipulates the system, But most of all it thwarts accountability, hence the fall guy, and pass the buck. What we have is a house with way too many doors and too little control of them, governments cannot be trusted to police themselves or act without self interest, let alone special interests.

  • Bob Purinton

    I think they should quit spending all that money the gov’t. needs for vacations, hookers, parties, and crony support to catch crooks with guns. Why don’t they spend a minimum amount of money to confiscate guns from the average citizen. They are the source of all guns that the criminals have. This should be an obvious fix to a problem…
    Oh, wait, that’s what they’re doing. Silly me.

    I’ll give my guns up when the gov’t. no longer needs theirs.

  • FreedomFighter

    Eric Holder is a progressive communist stooge, a criminal, a traitor, and a liar.

    Put this communist traitor in JAIL where he belongs.

    Typical — He runs guns to felons, people die, take guns away from law abiding citizens… yea that will solve it.

    Every single city with strict DEMOCRAT sponsored gun control is a cess pool of crime and poverty.

    Where you find more guns in the hands of citizenz — less crime.


    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • Kate8

      Freedom – Check out this video. Local law enforcement is taking a stand against federal overstep, and pledging to honor their oaths of office and protect and defend.

      You can be sure that local enforcement has become a target of the feds.

      • FreedomFighter


        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

  • northbrook

    Holder may point to an increase in deaths of law officers, is he counting those due to the botched F&F operation that he oversaw? To me this represents a case for citizens to have and carry a weapon for defense.

  • AJ

    Hang this fraudulant lunitic. He’s a sickening lier just like the Lier-in-chief.

  • James

    Holder is just incompetent, and a lier before congress. How is that “Fast & Furious” program going Holder?

  • Gayle

    Don’t forget hillary trying to sell us out to the un over gun control and eric holder starting to ramp up his campaign. These two have something up their sleeve.

    • Ted Crawford

      Very probable Gayle. It might possibly have something to do with EO-13524!

  • Ted Crawford

    This kind of outrageouse statement, coupled with his stance on the voters rights issue simply points out just how little credit they give to their constitutants ability to either be responsible for themselve or to think for themselves! If I were still a Democrat I’d be totally offended by this!

    • Joe H.

      GOA sent questionaires to all candidates to determine their stance on gun ownership. Ron Paul and Bachman were the only ones to return them. Romney and gingrich haven’t bothered. Kinda makes me wonder….!

  • Ted Crawford

    This is, by the way, one of the oldest political tricks in the book! If the problem isn’t serious enough, make it serious enough, then provide the obvious solution and become a Hero of the people!

    • eddie47d

      Much like the war in Iraq with the Bush/Cheney team. The Saudis did the killing on 9/11 and Iraq gets attacked.Smoke and mirrors to avoid offending the Saudis.

    • cawmun cents

      End the wars on drugs and Islam.
      Begin the war on financial irresponsibility,and crime.
      There is your solution…
      Ron Paul 2012.

      • Kate8

        cc – Good idea, but I would hope it would go better than the other two you mentioned, since drugs and Islam have only gotten stronger since those wars began.

  • ddh

    Can anybody believe this guy ? In his own words he shows himself as incompetent. While he doesnt believe in laws, he does believe in the end justifies the means, which is entrapment to the rest of us, to people like him the constitution is an obstacle, and something for show only, yes criminals hide behind it, but its lawyers that enable them, they all want a fluid justice system that suits their purpose.

  • JimH

    Holder say’s” to many guns have fallen into the hand of those who are not legally permitted to posses them”.
    It’s already against the law. Enforce it.
    We know that hindering law abiding firearm owner’s won’t help. But it really isn’t about crime prevention, is it.

    • Joe H.

      I want to see them make two separate categories of gun crimes. One that shows those committed with LEGALLY owned guns, and those with illegally obtained guns.(IE Theft or illegally sold, as from a runk of a car in the city!!)

      • JimH

        Hi Joe, Years ago I heard a statistic that there were 80 million firearms owned in the U.S. I’m sure it’s more now.
        With the number of firearms out there and the number of gun related crimes there are shows that 99.99999% of firearms are in good hands.
        The other stat you will never see is the number of crimes commited by a concealed carry permit holder. Or the number of concealed carry permit holders that commit a crime. It would be to low of a percentage to make any news.

  • Joey Biden

    This is an opportunity for the US to make an example of this man. He needs the most severe and harsh punishment possible. This traitor is part of a scheme that left good americans dead. It needs to be a wake up call for other treacherous bastards in our government.

  • Mitch A

    If not for Eric Holder and “gunwalking” it would only have been 172. Why no mention of his own contribution to the total?

  • Ralph

    I always find statistics interesting. Especially when they come from the government who wants to make their point making statements that make you think one thing when it is not the complete picture. They want everyone to think the 153 officer deaths were all caused by guns.

    Yes, 153 officer deaths (federal, state & local( were reported in 2010.

    However the total by gunshot is listed as 59.
    50 where in auto accidents.
    14 were struck by autos.
    14 were listed as job related illnesses.

    The list has 24 lines.

    Source is from the National Law Officers Enforcement Memorial Fund web site.

    With the federal government requiring more and more early release from prison due to over crowding (their term) what do they expect.

    • Bud in GA.

      It looks like Holder didn’t read all of the stats.

  • Joe B

    Maybe if he’d do his job and protect all citizens alike. What about the Black Panthers who on National TV called for killing white children and whitey. Intimadating White people at the poles.He should be run out of office and criminally charged with derilection of duty.He knows one thing for sure, White people have no balls and will march quickly to his ovens.

    • eddie47d

      Go put your hood back on Joe B no white person was intimidated or stopped from voting. Your little Black Panther routine is smelling like last years garbage.

      • Dennis48e

        How do you know eddie? Were you there? Did you observe every person who approached the polling place and note whether they went in or turned around and never got close to the door because they were intimedated?

      • eddie47d

        They didn’t intimidate anyone because they weren’t even near the door. Number two one of them lived there and was an authorized poll worker at that precinct. This story grew because it gives the right the false fears and desired effects of hating someone…anyone to make their side look good.

        • JeffH

          eddie, you just keep lying or is “avoiding the truth”.

          Video of Black Panther “Security” patrols stationed at polling places in Philly

          Funny, I see some white people there, don’t you?

        • eddie47d

          …and you are brain dead Jeff. Where did I say there weren’t any white people there. I’ve seen that same video at least 8 times. Nothing new there same old BS… little troll. Stop playing reich winger or did you fail to realize that blacks and whites do live together. You come up with the most obnoxious crap in defense of racism and out yourself everytime.

          • JeffH

            Hey POLLY, you got me…I’ll be a man, admit it, and say sorry.

            You did say “no white person was intimidated or stopped from voting.”
            You made that assumption based on what? Certainly not the video. But then again, you see the world much differently than it really is. You’re so pathetic that you are reduced to defending the indefensible.

          • JeffH

            Oh, your talking points don’t work either.

            Another fabricated eddie lie. “You come up with the most obnoxious crap in defense of racism and out yourself everytime.” I’ll put this one in you file too.

            Again eddie, prove it. Quite the opposite I would have to say.

            eddie, if memory serves me right(not reich)and I believe there are others here that can back me up, I despise racists and have called
            both sides of the isle” out on more than one occasion here. Pretty pitifull that you’ll say anything when you get upset.

          • Kate8

            JeffH – I’ll back you up. You’ve never exhibited a shred of racism.

            In fact, it’s usually folks like eddie et al who cry racism when they have no other argument.

            Nice going, JeffH.

          • eddie47d

            Here’s the thing Jeff. You have brought up the NBP video a few times yourself and it shows no violence. Because so many here think that blacks are scary and especially two with berets on.That video get played over and over again is proof you don’t care about the truth but emphasis the blacks in the video. If you weren’t racist you wouldn’t be throwing that video in our faces as many times as you have. The same with the Shirley Sherrod video which was also a pack of lies to turn folks against blacks. You kept bringing that up. The truth be damned. Don’t worry your friend Kate will back you up on that too. You can all run from the truth but you can’t hide by what you do.

          • Joe H.

            If there was nobody intimidated, it was only because eddie didn’t live there. He would have pizzed his pants at the sight of them, but he expects all the little old ladies in the neighborhood to “man”up!!!

          • JeffH

            eddie47d says:

            Here’s the thing Jeff. You have brought up the NBP video a few times yourself and it shows no violence.

            Oh, you’ve changed your story to “violence” now…what happened to your “intimidation” arguement…

            Changeing the gist of the arguement huh? You libs like to do that.
            Just admit you’re wrong eddie and leave it at that.

          • libertytrain

            ditto to Kate and Jeff

          • eddie47d

            There was no violence OR intimidation so the story does not change only your BS Jeff! Looks like another lame comment from Joe also which proves what I said about him earlier. Keep trying boys!… and girls!

          • JeffH

            eddie, you brought up the violence but you keep believing yourself while the rest of us keep showing you what a fool you make of yourself.

  • 2WarAbnVet

    This man has no moral authority to – well strike that – Holder has long since forfeited all moral authority.

  • http://none Bob

    I think the next president,should pass a law,,,that ALL law abiding CITIZENS of the USA,be required to carry a personal firearm,in a holster,visible,NOT CONCEALED,then lets see what the crime statistics will be….

    • GunbearerM1G

      I like concealed carry for law abiding citizens. Criminals won’t know for sure which citizen is lawfully carrying and will have to take his chances at getting hurt or killed in the nefarious pursuit of assaulting, robbing, and killing law abiding citizens.

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  • Nick JUmangit

    The Mexican Drug cartels have amassed truckloads of money from truckloads of drugs. With this pile pf money, they can buy people’s souls. One would wonder how those “FnF” guns ended up in their arsenal, and use them to kill many Mexican residents and a US border guard?

  • William L Collins

    arrest Holder send him and all involed to prison for life period if the Judiciary commiety senate and congerss would get off there asses and prosecute and start cleaning up there mistakes by letting these conterfit brake the laws and send them to jail like there paid to do

  • Michigan Swampdog

    What our founding fathers and others, had to say about gun control and freedom…

    “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”—Thomas Jefferson Papers (C.J. Boyd, Ed. 1950)

    “They that can give up liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania..

    “The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as they are injurious to others.” -Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia (1781-1785).

    “I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.” -George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 425-426.

    “The Constitutions of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” -Thomas Jefferson.

    “(The Constitution preserves) the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation…(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.” -James Madison.

    “Arms in the hands of citizens (may) be used at individual discretion…in private self defense…” -John Adams, A defense of the Constitutions of the Government of the USA, 471 (1788).

    “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria.

    “Arms in the hands of citizens (may) be used at individual discretion…in private self defense…” -John Adams, A defense of the Constitutions of the Government of the USA, 471 (1788).

    “As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow-citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms.” -Tench Coxe Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789“

    …arms…discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as well as property. …Horrid mischief would ensue were (the law-abiding) deprived the use of them.” -Thomas Paine.

    “On every question of construction (of the Constitution) let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one in which it was passed.” -Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823, The Complete Jefferson, p322.

    “Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms [of government] those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.” -Thomas Jefferson, Bill for the More General diffusion of Knowledge (1778).

    “To disarm the people (is) the best and most effectual way to enslave them…” -George Mason, 3 Elliot, Debates at 380.

    “The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.” -Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-8.

    “Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined…The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun. -Patrick Henry.

    “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!” -Patrick Henry

    “To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them…” -Richard Henry Lee writing in Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republic (1787-1788).

    “The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.” -Samuel Adams, debates & Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87.

    “…the people have a right to keep and bear arms.” -Patrick Henry and George Mason, Elliot, Debates at 185.

    “The right of the people to keep and bear…arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country…” -James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434 (June 8, 1789).

    “A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves…and include all men capable of bearing arms.” -Richard Henry Lee, Additional Letters from the Federal Farmer (1788) at 169.

    “The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age…” -Title 10, Section 311 of the U.S. Code.

    “The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them.” -Zachariah Johnson, 3 Elliot, Debates at 646.

    “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” -Thomas Jefferson, Proposal Virginia Constitution, 1 T. Jefferson Papers, 334 (C.J. Boyd, Ed., 1950).

    “If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no recourse left but in the exertion of that original right of self defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government…”-Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist (#28).

    “The right of the people to keep and bear arms has been recognized by the General Government; but the best security of that right after all is, the military spirit, that taste for martial exercises, which has always distinguished the free citizens of these States…Such men form the best barrier to the liberties of America.” -gazette of the United States, October 14, 1789.

    “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. the supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States.” -Noah Webster, An Examination into the Leading Principles of the federal Constitution (1787) in Pamphlets to the Constitution of the United States (P. Ford, 1888).

    “If a man hasn’t discovered something that he will die for, he isn’t fit to live.” -Martin Luther King Jr., June 23, 1963. Speech in Detroit.

    “If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.” Samuel Adams, 1776

    ‘‘The whole of the Bill [of Rights] is a declaration of the right of the people at large or considered as individuals… It establishes some rights of the individual as unalienable and which consequently, no majority has a right to deprive them of.’’

    —Albert Gallatin, Oct 7 1789

    Statements of The Enemies of Liberty:

    “Government begins at the end of the gun barrel.” – Chairman Mao

    “One man with a gun can control 100 without one. … Make mass searches and hold executions for found arms.”—V.I. Lenin.

    “If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.”—Joseph Stalin.

    “We are taking the law and bending it as far as we can to capture a whole new class of guns.” – Jose Cerada, (White House official who specializes in gun control policy), The Los Angeles Times

    “We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans …” Bill Clinton (USA TODAY, 11 March 1993, page 2A)

    • JustSayin

      Here’s one you can add. “Any state in which only the police have weapons is a police state.” Me, sometime back in 2010. ;>)) Please don’t get your knickers in a knot, I’m laughing at quoting myself. I take the loss of our right to protect ourselves from any people who intend to do us harm very seriously! Especially efforts by those who would do so “for our own good”.

  • http://charter howe

    The Obama small daddy, Mr. Holder is protecting big daddy in the Whitehouse who got the idea from Hillary to get puppet Holder to instigate a gun running scandel to create a wave of unrest with the public to denigrate the 2nd amendment to the Constitution, simply because the plan all along was to ram legislation through Congress to take our gun rights away piece by piece. Their clever or should I say stupid plan led to the murder of two U.S. border patrol agents and hundreds of Mexican Nationals by the drug cartels to which the ATF allowed these 2000 plus high powered weapons to be taken from the U.S. gun shops in the border states across the border using straw purchasers. Approximately 50 Congressmen have called for Holders resignation since the Congressional hearings that have proven he was not only complicit but lying to Congress, but Obama wants to keep his chief U.S. law enforcement corruptocrat inplace for the big day when he needs Holder to insure the ACORN, SEIU and Black Panthers can chase republican voters away from the polls like they did in 2008 and never be charged with a crime. If anyone ever needed proof of racism and the worst kind of corruptness, one only needs to read the Federal register to find out what happened to the lawsuit filed against the new black panther party that was terrorizing U.S. citizens at the polling places in Phila Penna in 2008. These felonies were dismissed by Holder because he said they were black people who did the crime.

    • eddie47d

      The NBP never “terrorized” anyone. You sir are the terrorist for making up false claims. If they ever do harm someone I will be on your side but until then you are a manipulating idiot!

      • Rob

        Eddie you don’t have to inflict injury to terrorize someone. The NBP were standing in the door way of the polling place with batons in their hands slapping them against the other hand in a threatening manner to scare white people from voting.This could be construed as terrorizing.

      • DEFENDER


      • eddie47d

        I’ve seen that video a few times and no one was standing in any doorway.It involved one baton and they were on the outside curve of the apartment complex driveway.

        • Jazzabelle

          And they were convicted of voter intimidation by a jury of their peers. And they appealed, and LOST their appeal. And they appealed again, and Holder shut down the Justice Dept’s ability to respond to the appeal, so the charges were thrown out and the convicts walked.

        • JeffH

          Why do you continue to defend bad people eddie despite the solid proof? It’s because you must be a bad person!

        • eddie47d

          I saw no crime being committed in that video. That video is nothing but a modern lynch mob because they did not intimidate anyone. So challange the other commenters lies Jeff if you are brave enough to do so. Show me where they harmed someone or even threatened .Show me where ANYONE was stopped from voting. Verdicts should demand proof in a civil society so why are you defending this lynch mob? To make it clear for about the 4th time I do not approve of the NBP but I do condemn anyone leveling false accusations to get a conviction.

          • Ononosedai

            Whaddaya wanna bet that eddie has no clue what the legal definition of “voter intimidation” is or what standards our legal system has developed to define whether it has happened or not? You read the case law on voter intimidation, eddie? I’ll bet you haven’t the slightest idea how these laws have been applied in other cases.

          • JeffH

            NO eddie, others here take care of that…you’re my “pet project”, my whipping boy…the resident hypocrit, slanderer and liar and you’re getting all the grief you deserve. The louder you “cry” the worse you make it for yourself.

          • eddie47d

            I’ve exposed you many times Jeff but this is a gang of Conservatives on this site and like any gang they stick together and the truth be damned. It’s their “truths” and to hell with anyone else. You have that gang on your side so I know this is an up hill battle. You will always have defenders no matter how disparaging you are and you know you will get away with making smirky remarks. I can take it Jeff even if there are 154 commenter’s posting here on this article. I don’t have that advantage and get attacked by dozens a day. Only a coward runs from the truth and I’m not running. Only a bully like yourself keeps bullying and calls people a liar when there is no lie.

          • JeffH

            eddie, eddie ,eddie…you can deny anything you want…there’s a valid reason why people continue to challenge you and this last comment by you is a good example. You’ll lie about anything, especially about lyinig and sorry pal, the only person you expose is that fraud that posts under the name of eddie47d.

            Give it up fool and admit it!

          • eddie47d

            You’re as dense as that rock you need to crawl under Jeff. LOL

          • JeffH

            eddie, you made your bed now sleep in it. You dug your hole, no one else did.

      • Joe H.

        suggest you read at
        Then tell me all of the actions were LEGAL!

        • Joe H.

          Oh, I forgot!!! YOU don’t DO sites to back up OPINION!! That’s all you spout, is OPINION!!!

  • Kevin Beck

    Let’s protect these agents from the guns. Have them turn in all their guns! (Just joking!)

    It’s pathetic that the Attorney General, the person in charge at the Injustice Department, is moaning because his plan backfired. It’s obvious that this is exactly what happened. He decides that the issue needs turned around, to make it look like he’s “doing something.” Thank goodness he’s not a doctor; at least doctors understand that the first rule in treating someone is, “Do no harm.”

    • Jazzabelle

      Well … SOME doctors understand that.

      You know, not the ones that kill babies and help people commit suicide.

      But, in general, you have a great point.

  • Max

    What are the new officer-protection initiatives to be headed by the Justice Department? Are they authorized under current law? Do they usurp states rights?

  • Dennis Wright

    I live in Virginia where lax gun registration laws make it the largest exporter of weapons on the east coast. Murders committed in New York and Florida are regularly traced to weapons bought in Virginia. It is no surprise to me these weapons are falling in the hands of Mexican drug cartels. They have the money and lax laws make weapons readily availble.

    This is one reason why I support gun regulation. The Constitution provides for the states right to mount a militia. It does not provide for individuals to own weapons. If it did, it would say so. Funny how the strict constructionists and originalists on the Supreme Court failed to see this basic logic.

    As to the opening statement in this article… I am unfamilar with the background on this topic. Rest assured I will become familar with this background. This is a serious charge against the Attorney General of the United States and I would need to know more to make a judgment on the accuracy of the opening statement.

    • FreedomFighter

      Criminals will get weapons nomatter what regulation you impose on law abiding citizens. In fact, more regulation cities, have more crime, because the criminals know you cant shoot back.

      Guns dont kill anyone, people kill people, and have been since the beginning.

      So dont try and take away my ability for self defense.

      Laus Deo
      Semper Fi

    • Rob

      Dennis you need to read the Federalist Papers which explains in detain the original intent of the Second Amendment. It specifically states the Second Amendment gives INDIVIDUALS the right to own guns. The reason for individuals to own guns was to protect themselves against a tyrannical government, for personal protection. You also have to take into account most had to use guns for survival against Indians and to gather food. This is only common sense given the period of history. They had just resisted a tyrannical government and wouldn’t have been able had they not had personal ownership of guns. It is quoted numerous times that individual ownership was the intent. Those who claim for militia only are interpreting the Constitution with emotion instead of logic.

      • eddie47d

        Maybe they should have leveled the playing field for the Indians.

        • FreedomFighter

          We would have won.

          That was then this is now, we the American people are now the Indians, and buddy we are armed to the teeth.

          Laus Deo
          Semper Fi

    • independant thinker

      Dennis Wright you need to go back and read Michigan Swampdog’s lengthy post closely. He proves your comments about the militia wrong several times.

    • Joe H.

      suggest you read up on the idiot that got ahold of a fully automatic gun in England and started shooting passers-by!!! This is LONDON ENGLAND where guns are outlawed let alone fully automatic weapons!!!

  • John R. Harbison

    Jim your right on, there all playing a big game twisted bunch that think there above the law. All Law Men work for us and I have always been willing to back them up when needed.We need to hire the best C.O.P’s possible and assest them with our eyes and ears, feed them good info. Carry and be able to that care of you, your family and others youself cause our cop’s can not be every where when needed. You get one bab guy pulling a gun there should be ten good guy’s and gal’s around pulling there’s We need to wake-up and start cleaning up the trach starting from the top down

  • Rob

    What this snake is trying to say is he’s going to make guns illegal if he can. He botched up the fast and furious plan and now he’s going to make us pay for it. The reason more Poice officers have died in the line of duty is because Holder has empowered the black community to be less afraid of Authority by arresting them and releasing them immediately or not arresting them at all. This is the same reason for the flash mobs and increase in theft and vandalism.

    • eddie47d

      You must read J Edwards column to come up with that hooey. What about the white cops who killed the black cop in NYC as they were pursuing the same perp.Yet the white cops thought he was the perp. You know the old saying “they all look alike”.

      • libertytrain

        perpetuating a myth again eddie. Perhaps someday we really shall overcome the need for that.

      • eddie47d

        How is that a myth when they said they couldn’t tell the difference when they shot him? Not everything is honky dorey out there in la la land for the deniers.

        • Joe H.

          I’ve heard the same BS from some Blacks when they talk about “Whitey”!! Is it right? Hell NO!! But it goes on on BOTH sides of the fence!!! your attemps to make it sound like whites are the only ones doing it is pathetic, at best!!!

        • Dennis48e

          I looked that up eddie and the black cop was off duty and out of uniform in civilian clothes. He was running carrying his gun where it was easily seen by the other officers who had no way of knowing who he was.

  • Raggs

    With this IDIOT oblama in office everyone needs to own at least one gun.

  • JJM

    That’s right – too many guns, explosives, timers, detonators in the wrong hands. So stop supplying them so easily in the attempt to take away from patriots!!!

  • Ben Dover

    Holder should turn himself in at Leavenworth and begin serving at least 10 years for manslaughter of the Border Patrol agent. That would serve as a good example….

    • eddie47d

      Okay go ahead and jail Holder. Then let’s bring in Oliver North for the hundreds of thousands who were killed in Central America because of his actions.How about Mr torture Cheney who authorized a few killings. Let’s count up who had more killed . All accidental and necessary of coarse. The Iraq War was poorly conceived just like Fast and Furious but far more deadly. Shouldn’t a few heads roll over that since I never approved it along with numerous other Americans. Some of you show an awful lot of selective outrage so when do ALL the trials begin?

      • Joe H.

        By all means, eddie, if YOU don’t agree with it, we should ban it!!! REGARDLESS WHAT IT IS!!!! If your head got any more inflated, it would be considered a weapon of mass obstruction!!!

        • eddie47d

          If ignorance is bliss Joe we’d be able to call your head the moon!

      • Kate8

        eddie – By all means, arrest them all.

        Right now, Holder is holding power. He is committing treason against Americans. No amount of finger pointing elsewhere can change that.

        BTW, didn’t Ollie North already spend time in Leavenworth?

        • eddie47d

          Ollie did not spend anytime in Leavenworth.

        • libertytrain

          Here Kate – it’s the New York Times but…
          Of course he could have been at Leavenworth – though probably not because he was a Marine. The Army Majors spend a year at Fort Leavenworth in school; and the other branches of the military send reps to attend the school and the Army sends a few of theirs to the other branches respective special schools.
          By the way, Ft. Leavenworth is still my favorite of all the Army Posts I’ve visited or stayed at – the Army prison is on Post and the Federal prison is on the perimeter of the Post -

  • sheffield

    eddie going to angola….him,obammy and holder. go away for 25 to life

  • Iron Angel

    Is this guy for real? What an incompetent idiot! Why hasn’t congress forced this guy out? Why hasn’t the American public demanded his resignation and why hasn’t he been prosecuted? If for nothing else, prosecuted for being stupid!

  • mjr47

    My question is WHY do you even condescend to getting involved in a repartee with Eddie as it is obviously a total waste of time when more intelligent exchanges of ideas could be transpiring?? I almost found some of you getting at the root of this F&F issue and asking more in depth questions. Such as WHY did the guns get left at the crime scenes?? If I was a criminal…I certainly would NOT throw away a perfectly good gun…one that had been given to me. That would be only IF those who gave me the gun had also INSTRUCTED me to do so. I believe that is the case. F&F was a plan that worked EXACTLY as planned…except…THEY got caught!! I would also believe that the cartel did not pay for the guns…and in fact THEY were PAID by the DOJ to USE those weapons. DOJ knew that lives would be lost…that was the plan. Now, my other question is, how many OTHER “plans” are going on right now, even as Holder is squirming and trying to still turn this into a way to take away our 2nd Amendment Rights?? He should have been immediately taken out of his position of authority as the investigation progressed. The records that were demanded should have been taken into custody… by authorities within the military if necessary…before the records could be destroyed. These are treasonous acts that have been committed. The American People have a RIGHT to know if those we have entrusted with our safety are guilty and we should be demanding Justice from ALL we have elected to represent us in Washington. THEY are NOT doing their JOB…hold them accountable. Write to your Congressmen and Representatives…DEMAND that they do their jobs…or else!!

  • e-man

    Holder does belong in jail along with all of the other turds who had anything to do worth this farce. Both party’s are a pack of lying, war loving,corporatist who care only about being re-elected. I say hit the “reset” button and take out the trash. The whole idea is to get the citizenry to fight amongst ourselves over non issues so that we miss the big picture of what the world banks and evil corporations that profit off of death are doing to this nation.
    I am very pro-gun and think everyone should open carry at all times because as we all know humans are not good unless the alternative in undesirable. More guns = less crime. The Founding Fathers knew that having the ability to eliminate atyrannicall governing body by force would be the only thing preventing us from becoming subjects again.
    Will you be a citizen or a subject?

  • metalflyer11

    The whole article and most media now never say POLICE OFFICER anymore. Now it is allways LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER. The psicological warfare is at full steam to get everyone ready when they ENFORCE all these illegal and un-constitutional laws upon us. The Police oath and duty was to protect our liberty and freedom not to ENFORCE any laws.

  • mjr47

    The lead title of this report is DOJ Holder taking the position that “too many guns have fallen into wrong hands”. Holder didn’t take THAT position when HE was supporting a “program” that would, in fact, put several THOUSAND of those guns into the wrong hands through their F&F “program. Also, as I previously asked the question, how many OTHER “programs” are currently being instigated that we have no knowledge of?? I think that it is BS to even allow DOJ to refuse Congress access to ALL records under the guise that they are “confidential” and would undermine the safety of America by releasing that information. What other misdeeds is he protecting?? The Kansas City bombing??…Ruby Ridge?? The Governments’ covert activities to take away our 2nd Amendment Rights has now focused a laser light on DOJ through SEVERAL Presidencies. THOSE Presidents had to know what was going on!! These are not just instances of a single “rogue” person, carrying out their own agenda and using branches of our Government to cover up their dirty deeds. Fingerprints of CIA agents showing up on the materials used to make the bombs for Oklahoma City? Several involved in those bombings conveniently put into private cells and “hanging” themselves?? People who hang themselves do NOT first beat themselves up and slash their own throats!! What is going on here?? ruby Ridge…totally demolished and ALL evidence hauled off so nothing was left to convict those responsible for the deaths of innocent children and babies who were burned to death in that fire?? These are actions of corrupt agencies WAY overstepping their authority!! Too much is coming to light…Holder and those responsible need to be held accountable!! THEY are the “terrorists” who have robbed OUR Rights as Citizens and caused the deaths of HOW MANY innocent lives in their quest for ultimate power over “We The People”!! We who dare to question THAT power are called “terrorists”? because we question THEIR authority??? It is TIME that those innocent Lives, who call from their graves, receive Justice!! If we continue to allow these atrocities to be covered up…we are complicit in those actions!!

  • JimH

    Happy New Year. May the New Year start off with a bang.

    • JeffH

      Back at you JimH and to PLD and all who frequent PLD.


  • http://Boblivingston Gottaplenty

    Don’t expect anything but deception, lies and chicago thuggery from any one of them . just be aware and watchful.And remember where all this gangster tactic stuff was learned. Now think about all the electronic voting machines , computer controled. Think about it.That is Obummers education territory…

  • FreedomFighter

    If they take away our guns.

    Then only the criminals will be armed, (ie the goverment)

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi


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