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Eric Holder Has To Go

June 29, 2012 by  

Eric Holder Has To Go
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On Thursday, the House voted to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt of Congress.

The House of Representatives is about to vote on whether to declare Eric Holder, our Attorney General, in contempt of Congress. And by the time you read this, the Supreme Court will have issued its long-awaited ruling on the Constitutionality of Obamacare.

Unfortunately, I’ll have to wait until next week to comment on both events. Thanks to publishing deadlines, I have to finish this column before the House takes its vote and the Court renders its verdict.

But I don’t have to wait another minute to predict that it’s just a matter of time before Holder is no longer our Nation’s top law-enforcement officer. While the list of unConstitutional excesses by this Administration is longer than both of my arms, Holder’s bungling mismanagement of the Fast and Furious crisis, followed by his outright defiance of Congress, is reason enough to color him gone.

What’s gotten lost in the whole contrived controversy over Holder’s claim of executive privilege is how this uproar began. In 2009, someone in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives approved plans to let some 2,000 illegal weapons in the United States get into the hands of a Mexican drug cartel. The idea was to track where the guns went, so they could nail some drug kingpins.

A bad idea went terribly awry in 2010, when Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was killed in a shoot-out with drug traffickers. A firearm found out at the scene was traced to the botched Federal program.

Congress decided to investigate how this whole mess happened. And that’s when Holder’s Justice Department made a huge mistake. It sent a letter to Congress in February 2011 flatly denying that any such program ever existed.

The House Oversight Committee didn’t buy it and demanded to see various reports and communications. One of the items that subsequently came to light was an email in March of last year from then-acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson urging the Justice Department to “back off the letter.” But it took another seven months before Holder’s agency acknowledged the existence of the Fast and Furious program and admitted its previous claims weren’t true.

That would have been a very good time for Holder to abide by the old maxim, “If you mess up, ’fess up.” Instead, he took the opposite tack and dug in his heels. So far, Justice has given Congress only a tiny fraction of the documents it has requested, insisting that all of the others are somehow protected by executive privilege.

Claims of executive privilege can apply when you’re talking about communications between the President and the people who work for him, such as the Attorney General. But not when you’re trying to keep a duly constituted Congressional committee from learning about communications within a Federal department.

In a lead editorial last week, The Wall Street Journal noted the curious contradictions and dangerous implications of what’s happening here:

Did White House officials know and approve Fast and Furious before it went awry, and did they advise the Justice Department on how to respond to Congress’s investigation into the operation’s failure?

How can the President invoke a privilege to protect documents he and the White House are supposed to have had nothing to do with?

And what is so damaging or embarrassing in those documents that Mr. Obama is now willing to invest his own political capital to protect it from disclosure—at least until after the election?

The last three words contain the key to the current unpleasantness. Obama would like nothing better than to put off any resolution until after Nov. 6. And I think it’s safe to assume that Holder would like to keep his cushy job for as long as possible. Who could blame him?

If a majority of House members do vote to hold the Attorney General in contempt, then what happens? It would be up to a U.S. Attorney to prosecute the case — which means he would be prosecuting his own boss. Does anyone see a potential conflict of interest there?

On the other hand, Holder could order the U.S. Attorney not to prosecute. Wouldn’t Republicans have a field day with that one?

Unless Republicans in the House agree to meekly back down (something I don’t see happening), it won’t be long before Holder is gone. Some 115 Republican members of Congress have signed a no confidence resolution against Holder. Dozens already called for his resignation. Several members of the Senate, including two members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, echoed that demand.

Holder has been very obliging in the past about doing whatever his boss in the White House wanted. This included refusing to enforce the Defense of Marriage Act and declining to prosecute New Black Panther Party members who were caught on tape in November 2008 trying to intimidate voters.

So I have no doubt that when Barack Obama wants to shove him out the door of Justice, Holder will quickly oblige. As I said before, you can color him gone. But don’t get me wrong. This doesn’t mean that justice has been done at Justice. We’ve got a long way to go — at least until January — before that happens.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • MAP

    Those that are persistently crying and whining for others, now show pure contempt; they don’t care about the man shot and his family’s suffering. They are in attack mode, in total defiance to protect Holder. And so Holder is now far more important than murder and justice? Why this sudden shift from righteous whiners to defenders of murderers? Because the word has gone out by the Democratic Party and these automatons jump like the good, mindless robots and programmed zombies that they are. This is pretty pathetic, even for the sleazy, evil party. And to think these are the morons that pretend to define the standards of morality for us. Our country is becoming the land of idiots.

    • Warrior

      As the “progressive caucas” pulls a “wisconsin”, led by none other than “head cheerleader”, queen nan and immediately cries “racism” in front of the cameras. This cast in washington places hollywood actors back in the minor leagues.

      • old hillbilly

        NOBRAINER – dump the sleeze bag – there isn’t anyone who earned it more than Holder!

    • Wabobs

      Amen!

    • George W. Moss

      Eric Holder has continually disgraced the office of the Attorney General of the United States, disserving the country through his disgraceful efforts to politicize the office, and divide the American people. Not only does Holder need to resign, but needs to apologize to the American people for being the most divisive Attorney General in American History. The time has long since passed for Holder to vacate his office.

      • George Harris

        Exactly. It is Holder’s job as Attorney General to enforce the laws that are on the books. The wishes of the President are secondary to the law. If he cannot perform his duties and defend the laws as they currently exist, then he should resign.
        Furthermore, if the President expects the Attorney General to follow his orders instead of enforcing the law, then the President should resign as well.

    • nc

      Map, this an ill handed matter by the Democrats just as the Republicans have had their ill handled matters in the recent past like the Iraqi War that didn’t kill just one man! It killed many men, women and children! This will become a political football and will be decided at the polls between the two major parties just as 2008 was a referendum on policy! Name the last President who wanted everything revealed to the public! Why do we have laws to protect information from becoming public even to Congress?

      We are still the greatest country in the world! Have you ever watched a military fly over at a public event or seen a public street full of those beautiful AMERICAN flags?? Did it not give you a feeling of pride?????When did witness your last political execution or kangeroo trial of a leading political figure in this country??? Ever?? NEVER!!!

      • MAP

        And here is NC, one of the cheerleading idiots, attempting to justify what can not be justified. The brain-washed soviet and nazi citizens loved their country, too. So what does that prove? That the pathetic, evil practises of the Democratic Party has worked in other pathetic, evil governments?

      • Vigilant

        nc once again misses the intelligence boat, when he says, “Name the last President who wanted everything revealed to the public! Why do we have laws to protect information from becoming public even to Congress?”

        “Everything” revealed? Not quite, son. The subpoenas are for intra- and inter-office communications for a specific period of time related to a suspected coverup. That’s very far from “everything.”

        Yes, we have laws to protect flow of national security information. and executive privilege is valid when such protection is warranted. Since the documents have already allegedly been provided by DOJ to Congress related to the OPERATIONAL nature of F&F, what’s left are the nonsecurity related communications that in NO WAY impact national security.

        In case you have any doubts, please refer to AG John Mitchell’s prison time spent for EXACTLY the same actions Holder and Obama are taking now. Once again, executive privilege does not, and never has, extended to information involving a coverup of illegal activity.

      • Flashy

        Vig. First, I admit i am somewhat confused as to just what exactly Holder refused to turn over. From what i understand, no documents as to any BshII operations under the program have been asked for. In fact, such offerings have been refused. Holder and the AGs office did turn over everything up through Oct. 2011. What remains are those communications from Oct through today. Is this correct?

        Next..party line votes on the subpoena for the most part. Suspiciously looking like partisan politics witch hunt doesn’t it?

        And….unlike past investigations..there isn’t a “smoking gun” memo or document (leaked or turned over) which gives a direct line to something seriously awry in evading the law. When Reagan was embroiled in Iran Contra for dealing with the enemy and violating directly the laws. Even with the smoking guns circling about indicating North was a treasonous criminal SOB, that administration stonewalled and fought every request until Reagan was forced to ‘fess up or face a showdown with Congress.

        So my questions center around…why only the documents for F&F and not the entire program from beginning? Why concentrate on documents known to be after the operation was found out and the internal investigations of the AGs office?Where is the “smoking gun” or are we to be treated to another Inquisition as Herr Starr conducted with Clinton…only to waste tens of millions of dollars for nothing?

      • speedle

        Flashy, you say you would like to know which documents they are demanding Holder to turn over. Let me help you out. They want the documents and e-mails that prove that the real reason for “fast and furious” is to promote the liberal quest for gun control laws in the U.S. And what appears to be an even more likely enlightenment (based upon the complete stonewalling by the administration) that the great Ozbama in right in the middle of all this. Any questions?

      • Vigilant

        Flashy, I believe the subpoenas cover the inernal memos and e-mails within the DOJ subsequent to the February 2011 letter. To quote Mr. Wood, “…Holder’s Justice Department made a huge mistake. It sent a letter to Congress in February 2011 flatly denying that any such program ever existed.”

        That, combined with insider tips and Holder’s nine appearances before the House/Senate in which he was caught in lies about when he first knew about F&F, are not smoking guns but present a reasonable doubt about the forthrightness of the DOJ. Add to that the exertion of executive privilege, which is tantamount to a coverup of either Holder’s actions, Obama’s involvement, or both, and you have a basis for investigation.

        Although Committee vote was purely along partisan lines, 17 Democrats in the House crossed party lines on the contempt vote.

        Iran Contra proceeded to appointment of a special prosecutor, Judge Lawrence E. Walsh, in the absence of any “smoking guns.” The prosecution was largely unsuccessful, in part due to immunities and divulgence of damaging information during the pretrial Congressional hearings.

        You may decry the “witch hunt” aspect or playing of politics during an election year. But you then must also remember the impeachment of Bill Clinton, in which conviction in the Senate was roadblocked by a purely partisan Democrat vote after perjury was proven. It was not Ken Starr, it was the Democrats who wasted “tens of millions of dollars for nothing.”

        You say, “So my questions center around…why only the documents for F&F and not the entire program from beginning?” If you mean to include Wide Receiver, that was a different program. The operational portions of both Wide Receiver and F&F are already known, and as Jay Carney said, those pertinent documents have been provided. Once again, it’s not about the operations, it’s not about national security, it’s about stonewalling the release of information that may be germane to a coverup. Sufficient legal doubt is present, and the executive privilege throws gas on the fire, ot doesn’t douse it.

      • Rasta

        Way to go NC stand up to these Nazis! It’s clearly a whitch hunt. They had a witch in W and his whole admin. but refused to follow up on the weapons of mass destruction lie.

      • Warrior

        Maybe nan and her band of merry socialists can READ the contempt citation to SEE what’s in it! Freakin laughable.

      • tangshui

        makes sense what you trying to say. bunch of mumbo jumbo. even asian write better than you, moron. are you one of this elk the ACORN community organizer? get a real job or stand in foodline with eric and freak from kenya.

      • Sanders

        Vigilant,

        “Yes, we have laws to protect flow of national security information. and executive privilege is valid when such protection is warranted. Since the documents have already allegedly been provided by DOJ to Congress related to the OPERATIONAL nature of F&F, what’s left are the nonsecurity related communications that in NO WAY impact national security”

        Unfortunately for this country, this may very well be of national security as the entire operation was conducted without the Mexican government being informed. Now that more than 2,000 weapons have crossed the border into the hands of suspected drug cartels without permission or involvement from the Mexican government and resulted in hundreds of Mexican civilian deaths, this could very well be considered an act of aggression against a sovereign nation.

        Obummer knows this and that is undoubtedly why he has protected them from going public. Don’t get me wrong, I in no way agree with this Imposter-in-Chief or his race baiting AG Holder.

        Just food for thought!

      • Vigilant

        Interesting perspective, Sanders. I hadn’t thought of that angle.

      • TIME

        Veggie,

        the reason you never thought about that, is your not able to think out side of that Nano sized box. Saddly thats a good thing as your brain is the size of a bloody Microbe, and we sure don’t want the trace amounts of gray matter you have to vanish all together, now do we?

        Peace and Love ;-)

      • Vigilant

        Waste of TIME and bandwidth, you might venture for once into the world of logic, common sense and intelligence by actually presenting cogent arguments instead of insulting your opponent. Given your mental age of about 14, and an IQ under 75, you are outclassed at every turn.

        Methinks you doth protest too much. The over use of terms such as “I forgive you” and “peace and love” in the wake of blatant insults surely tags you as one who has no forgiveness, peace or love whatsoever in their heart.

      • http://none Jude

        I agree nc. Nothing should be hidden in our government unless it has to do with national security. Why if Oboma had no involvement trying to cover this up too? Holder needs to go asap and with no retirement and he can take Oboma with him.. The only way to get our country back on track.

      • Cliffystones

        Yes NC, the Iraq war sucked. I was pi$$ed at “W” before he even started “shock and awe”, because unlike the boneheaded politicians I could see how it was going to turn out. Big waste of lives and resources.

        The difference between Iraq and F&F? The exquisite little inconvience Obama likes to call “transparency”. It’s non existent with regard to Holder’s handling of the situation.

        And if you and others like you are truly Liberal, and truly believe in Liberal causes like social programs, gun control, “fairness”, etc., then you’re going about it all wrong attempting to defend this administration at every turn. All of these utopian ideals Liberals want simply don’t mesh with what this administration has been doing, and Liberals need to admit this. Then maybe, just maybe Liberals can engage Libertarians and Conservatives in a truly honest dialogue between mature adults about how to accomplish some sort of middle ground. But as it stands, Fast and Furious walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, and the Alan Colmes’ of the country keep trying to call it a Platypus.

        Operation Fast and Furious was pure and simple a sneaky attempt by a bunch of arrogant bastards to manufacture a crisis in an attempt to weaken the Second Amendment. Only they handled it like the Three Stooges and it blew up in their faces. And no, I don’t have solid proof, but most reasonable, honest people with a modicum of common sense can connect the dots. It’s time those people on the opposite side of the political isle admitted this scam. Then, like the Democrats said in the 1990s, we can all “Move On”.

    • Military Mom

      Can you believe that the occupier said that Americans cling to God and Guns….Do your research on why Japan did not come over here after they bombed Pearl Harbor and we bombed them…One of the head Japanese Military was asked why they didn’t send their troops in while our Military was over in Germany back then….His answer “American citizens have guns and they know how to use them….”I find that something to be proud of..We the People of the United States of America scared off an entire nation because of our wonderful rights and freedoms….God bless America and God Bless Our Troops

      • Rasta

        Man you are really an idiot. One reason Japan did not invade the mainland is because of logistics. You could not possibly resupply an army over a distance so vast!

      • CZ52

        Here is the statement you are looking for Military Mom.

        “Japan would never invade the United States. We would find a rifle behind every blade of grass.” Isoroku Yamamoto

        There is also something to what rasta said although if Japan had succeeded in wiping out the Pacific fleet at Pearl and Midway I am sure they would have tried.

      • JeffH

        CZ52, unfortunately, that statement credited to Yamamoto is a myth.

      • Vigilant

        CZ52, an interesting fact is that Nimitz might very well have not pulled off the surprise ambush at Midway, were it not for the internment of the Japanese.

      • http://www.facebook.com/ron.harness1 Ron Harness

        Military Mom
        You are right, and should be proud. But if Obama and Clinton sign that Arms Trade Treaty on July 27, our 2nd ammendment right to bear arms will be turned over to the UN and be null and void. I hope our Representitives are on the ball, aand get this stopped. Treir are 130 signatures on a letter to the Pres. that are trying to do just that. But that won’t be enough.

    • Robert

      Very well said MAP. Thanks

    • Gordon

      Oour country is becoming a land of idiots? Back in the 60s I stated many times that someday these freaks would be running this country…… and now they are. The great social experiment of the 60s has finally come to fruition, and their children and grandchildren are voting. The basic ethics, integrity, and honor of the modern society is based on the socialistic feel good values of the sixties hippies. This Nation is so far gone that I don’t see a return to the good old 50s as a viable probability, ever. Be prepared to live in a declining Nation facing a third world outcome while the politically socialist elite revel in our declining wealth.

      • Vigilant

        Agreed, and if Obamacare survives legislative repeal, the beginning of the end will have occurred.

      • TIME

        Dear Gordon,

        Not quite dude, the same familys who were in the political thearter have never changed as in they were in power way back when.

        Us of whom you speak of are not nor were not ever involved with the current nor past political thearter.

        Now open your mind a tad more. “You are just as responsible” as anyone else for whats happeneing now, and what was done in the past to facilitate our current state of affairs.

        Only when the American Sheep open their eyes to their {own GUILT} and stop trying to obfuscate that GUILT – that JFTR – we all have aided in the building of our problems. Then and only then can we as a nation ever hope to even start addressing these issues.
        You know the old “Silent Majority.”

        Peace and Love

    • Gary L

      MAP, you are right, and the idiots not only vote, they breed like rabbits.

    • Patriot

      We have yet to see proof tha Obama is a citizen, do you think they give a crap about any Dept. of Justice documents?

    • hangman

      All across America, the blacks are becoming more cowardly, more criminal, and more violent. When caught commiting a crime, they pee on themselves and cry ‘racism’. Is it a surprise that Holder, a black, is also a criminal and a coward?

      • TIME

        Dear Hangman,

        All I have to say about your post is this – OMG!

        You clearly displayed in a very overt mannor what your made of how bloody sad.

        Peace and Love

      • http://none Jude

        I know several black people and they are law abiding and responsible citizens. To me you are one of the problems in our country. You are a racist.

    • big T-little roy

      these sick emperors are beyond the law! the republicans are without intestinal fortitude and don’t want to stir the status quo! just about 90% of congress are ignorant and probably haven’t even read our constitution! our supreme court probably has, but don’t comprehend! this country is screwed!

    • Steve L.

      Map. Too bad you don’t know what your talking about. By your comments you clearly have no idea that the guns were legally bought, there is no law in Arizona against buying guns and selling, and no one will prosecute, The Agents Were Forbidden to stop the guns. To throw out your accusations at people who put their life on the line and get no support, you owe them and their families a public apology you moron

    • Wayne Morgan

      Nixon had the common sense to step down when the truth came out about the tapes. To bad this President puts his his on well being over whats best for the people of the US as well as the US it’s self. And Congress and the House is full of people, not men and women. I don’t think that have a set of b—s between them.

  • Tom Cook

    Actually that is not what Fast and Furious was about at all; the whole obongo/holder scheme was to send guns to Mexico traceable to the U.S. so that the swine liberals(aka democrats) could push for more gun control laws. It backfired on them like so many of their sick twisted agenda is and will.

    • CZ52

      If I remember correctly the head of the BATF Southwest region said as much.

    • Gordon

      Agreed. And when someone ran an ad in local newspapers stating that they would buy any and all guns…… and he did buy 67 weapons one afternoon at a public meeting place… at seller asking prices….. nobody but a few of us noted the situation. Of course, no laws were broken by this purchase episode, but where did those guns go? Who was the non-identified hispanic looking buyer, really? Was it just a gun store sham or an individual seeking to make a few bucks legally turning guns? Nobody knows, since nothing could legally be done at that time. Still makes me wonder, how about you?

    • http://none Jude

      yup you are sooooo right

  • Thomas P.

    Obama has his back and he will stay for many months, possibly years. Then he will get a Presidential pardon. He has been a good foot soldier for BHO and will be rewarded.

    • http://gravatar.com/wandamurline wandamurline

      Speaking of pardons…you can bet that Blogovich will be pardoned…maybe Madeoff…and possible the jhadists at GITMO and Hanan who shot our soldiers….just watch this guy….he is the epity of evil.

    • Vigilant

      According to http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Presidential+pardon :

      A presidential pardon “extends to every offence known to the law, and may be exercised at any time after its commission, either before legal proceedings are taken, or during their pendency, or after conviction and judgment.” (SCOTUS)

      “Unless the pardon expressly states that it is issued because of a determination that the recipient was innocent, a pardon does not imply innocence. It is merely a forgiveness of the offense. It is generally assumed that acceptance of a pardon is an implicit Acknowledgment of guilt, for one cannot be pardoned unless one has committed an offense.”

      If Obama is not re-elected, he would most likely issue a pardon before inauguration of the new president. If he is re-elected, he has the luxury of time in that he could let the investigation, Grand Jury deliberations and indictment play out before he either throws Holder under the bus, or ultimately pardons him.

      Given the disrespect for the rule of law that Obama cherishes, he could even pardon Holder the day after he is re-elected, thereby nullifying any subsequent legal action during a second term.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Holder is now a liability for O. O will get rid of him when there is a supposed calm. Keep watch, that Holder will resign “to spend more time with his family”, as that is a catch phrase that disgrace is in the offing.

      • ChristyK

        I don’t believe Obama will get rid of Holder. Holder likes his job and knows Obama’s secrets. I believe if Obama quits protecting Holder, then Holder tells all and Obama is done, so Obama will protect Holder & Holder will protect Obama. They rise or fall together.

  • Robert

    Honestly I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade, But… let’s put down our beer mugs, shot glasses, crack pipes, and joints and clear our heads for a moment. Do you really believe, I mean really believe that anything is going to become of this ” Contempt of Congress ” charge? No I’m not for the communist democrats nor Eric Holder. I agree that the man must be impeached/fired and charged in a criminal court. With that said, do you think after having our @$$ handed to us yesterday by the supreme court ruling on Obamacare, that Eric Holder will even see the inside of a jail, much less a court room? If Obama can control the outcome of a supreme court ruling how far do you think we are going to get with convicting Eric Holder or getting the ” executive privilage ” documents on Fast and Furious?
    This is only a dog and pony show the republicans are putting on because they can’t do anything else. Only way to nail Obama or Holder is to vote in another president with some testicalar fortitude. Then bring them both up on charges of treason.

    • jopa

      Robert; Hold on to your seat if you think this is a dog and pony show.The whining cry baby GOP is already setting up their next show for July with a symbolic repeal of the ACA.These folks are a total waste of time and tax dollars.

      • hangman

        Sounds like you would rather leave those criminals alone. At least this guys are trying to do something.

    • Kathy

      Excellent reply. Charge em with treason and make them walk the plank!

    • Gordon

      This country is pushing closer and closer to a civil war/revolution. Half the people are fed up with the whole mess, and sooner or later the actual confrontations will start. WHEN Obama gets re-elected things will get worse for everybody. Better be a prepper.

  • Paul Wells

    Holder has already tried to leave office over the Fast and Furious debacle. Valerie Jarrett (who pretty much is a Muslim and responsible for much of the leftist policy from this White House) said no, he can’t quit, it’d look bad for the Obamation. Frankly, Holder’s inevitable contempt citation from Congress I predict, will fare much worse for King Obama come November, when voters rightfully kick the trash to the curb! So, despite the fact that a border agent lost his life tragically in this bungled fiasco of incredible proportion, there is one small silver lining to the whole deal.

    • skippy

      I sure hope you are right Paul. I am ready to gear up for November, and get out to get people registered now and later hope to help with transport to the polls for any that need it.

  • http://n/a AmFer

    “A matter of time….” I don’t think there’s enough time left to rid ourselves of Holder to make any kind of impact – do you? This is another token of ‘efforts of futility’

    • ArkansasRebel

      Perhaps the best way to “rid ourselves” of Holder is to “rid ourselves” of the Obamanation
      itself.

  • Duke Maxwell

    Come ON! He’s Black, therefore, in this country these days, he walks…. I mean, his boss got away with having 58 states and calling his grandmother a “typical white woman”, whatever that is… Affirmative Action Reigns Supreme………………….!

  • http://httpaol.com sean murry

    Valllerie Jarret is a very corrupted person.

    • nc

      Sean, is she as corrupt as Scooter Libby, Ollie North, Richard Nixon,John Mitchell etc.etc?

      • firefight

        Yes she is……and just as corrupt as JFK, LBJ, Bill Clinton and wife Hillary and any other politician whether Republican or Democrat who has betrayed their Constitutional oath of office or their vows to their spouses.

      • Kathy

        Put in perspective, Watergate is “Child’s Play” compared to everything that has gone on in Oblamers administration. Any respect and dignity of the office of President has been shot to blazes. I’m proud to be an American, but embarassed by our president. We really need to vote him out and have to hope that enough conflict is not created for him to declare Martial Law.

    • JeffH

      sean, a little Valerie Jarrett info…she is Obama’s “handler”, his voice and rules the White House with a heavy hand.

      Jarrett’s background is fully linked to the Chicago thugocracy of Marxism and communism where she was trained and honed her radical skills.

      Valerie Jarrett’s mother, Barbara Taylor Bowman, co-founded the Erickson Institute in Chicago and still serves on its Board of Trustees. Tom Ayers, the father of Bill Ayers, was a one-time fellow trustee of the Institute.

      Valerie Jarrett’s father in law is Vernon Jarrett. Vernon Jarrett was a leader of the Chicago chapter of American Youth for Democracy – the youth wing of the Communist Party.

      Chicago communist journalist Frank Marshall Davis was a national sponsor of American Youth for Democracy, as well as being a Progressive Party supporter.

      Both Davis and Jarrett worked on the radical Chicago Defender newspaper and in 1948, both served on the publicity committee of the Citizens’ Committee to Aid Packing-House Workers.

  • tim

    You are correct robert!!! I believe justice roberts was threatened by obamas henchmen and so do alot of others!

    • nc

      Tim, what is the basis for you and “others” believing that Roberts was threatened by Obama’s henchmen?! Do one of you people have a brother -in -law who delivers mail in D.C. and knows EVERYTHING that goes on there who SWEARS it’s the truth???
      Do you and “others” know exactly when Obama is going to declare that there will be NO ELECTIONS in NOV?? Or make himself dictator? I have heard it from “others” here!

      • tangshui

        you asking what basis on these cronies strongarm the chief justice. look at fast and furious. brian terry was murdered by eric and obama misplacing their trust in the drug mofia. both would have kennedy killed if this had gone other route. are you supporting these two murderers? nc stands for nut case

    • Jimmy The Greek

      You may be on to something Tim ! He does look like a real pushover and i don’t think he would do well in a bar fight . You think obongo sent the panthers in to have a talk with him the night before the vote ?

    • skippy

      hmmm…interesting tim. I think he put it back to Congress, so that they have a leg up to repeal it. And what happened to the ‘if you make less than…..not a dime more in taxes’??? What the hell???

      • Buster the Anatolian

        “And what happened to the ‘if you make less than…..not a dime more in taxes’??? What the hell???”

        Hope you did not really believe that skippy cause if you did I have some ocean front property here in Arkansas to sell you.

  • roger gunderson

    Our basic system of the president picking an attorney general is wrong. Justice dept. should be separate so that the AT doesn’t feel obliged to the president.

    • TIME

      Dear Roger,

      The facts are that the JD is an Illegal unit and should not even be, just like the Batf, DEA, FBI, CIA, NSA, DOE and the list just keeps on going on and on.

      Please check into whom they as in the JD as well all AG’s really work for, what you will find is the Bank Of London.
      Don’t take my word for it the Doucments are all out there find them yourself.
      That also goes for every AG in the Union, they all had to CONsent to become member of the United States inc. see the 1878 act.
      Again all this is in black and white written in their own words get an older Blacks law and look up the words real meaning.

      Peace and Love

      • Vigilant

        Ah, once again the ignorant obssession of TIME with the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1878.

        Gonna give me a citation from the Act verbatim this time that establishes the USA as a corporation?

        No? I didn;t think so.

      • TIME

        veggie,

        If you ever got with the program I for one would drop dead from utter shock.
        Saddly you are the “SINGLE most closed minded sheep” on this whole blog sight, bar none.

        I am not your mommie, and yet how odd is it that I posted links how many times now to display the very Instruments that you can’t seem understand.

        But hey – guess what – everyone else is quite able to grasp the content of them. Now – thats a super Positive.

        Now – about you again you’re a case of either Aggressive Ignorance or a case of “Aggressive Stupidity,”
        I garner from most all your absurd post its the latter of the two.

        Saddly its drones like you that gave your CONsent to allow this neo Fascist De Facto platform to exist in the first place!
        Be well Sheep – its good on ya!

        Peace and Love

      • Vigilant

        Well, what a surprise, TIME doesn’t answer the question AGAIN. What is this, 6 or 7 times?

        You could clear this up with just one quote, one sentence perhaps, but you can’t avoid anything but referring to YouTube videos or flat general insults that add nothing to your claim. Rather than look at a source document, the VERY CENTER of your crazy assertion, you rely on second-hand conspiracy sources. If you ever had a valid thought, it would die of loneliness.

        I repeat, “Gonna give me a citation from the 1878 Act verbatim this time that establishes the USA as a corporation?”

        And that goes for ANYONE on this site that subscribes to this nonsense.

        I’ll wait…….

      • Vigilant

        As for your obssession with YouTube videos, I repost the following:

        “Well now, TIME, I think I and every august contributor to this site owe you a debt of gratitude. Thanks to your breakthrough methods, we now know that the “youtube feeds” are the be all, end all, unimpeachable sources for truth in this world.

        What a great gift you’ve given us. We no longer need to pore through those long and complicated source documents, nor do we need to rely on the historical record for our facts and figures. Researchers the world over can save many hours of time in verifying and cross referencing their work. They need only list in their bibliographies the URLs to the “youtube feeds.”

        This will certainly simplify conversations and shorten their duration when one conversant need only point to the “youtube feed” for substantiation. The hapless opponent can only say, “oh, you saw it on youtube? Well, I guess I have no argument then.”

        Brilliant work, TIME! You’ve effectively stifled all intelligent conversation regarding the DC Organic Act. No longer will I ask you to cite passages from the Act, since you’ve obviously lost the ability to read, and have never read the Act in the first place.”

        I admit I broke my own rule, but TIME irritates me.

      • TIME

        VeggieO’,

        I annoy you…. Oh goodie,,, then I will be sure to inslut you at every chance I get.

        You Have a Nice day now. ;-) YO’ VeggieO’ – YO’ Da PUD

      • Nadzieja Batki

        You just admitted that you are childish and immature.

      • Vigilant

        He also admitted he cannot answer the question. Case closed.

      • TIME

        Dear Nadziega,

        Thanks for your observation, now if you would like to make a point on something of value – do please – let me know otherwise you’re no better.
        Or is that point of logic way beyond your gray matters ability level?

        Peace and Love

      • TIME

        Oh veggie,

        You funny little person you! Ah come on and fun with me boo boo.

        Ya just gotta love a mindless little sheep like you, why you’re so darn cute!!!
        You and all you’re thinking an such on things way beyond your frail little grasp, now darn thats just soooo cute I just want to give you a BIG old HUG.

        Now – You enjoy your weekend – Darn you sure are one really special little person, oh you, now don’t fight it, really you’re very special!

        Peace and Love

      • Vigilant

        “Mindless” folk can’t answer a question posed straight on. Nor can people who can’t read (have you read that Organic Act of 1878 yet, or are you a TRUE sheep by taking someone else’s word for things?)

  • http://msn. 8total

    @ tim don’t get madd. you can’t threaten the Chief Justice of the US, he is the most Highest ranking Judge, He just knows what right and whats wrong. unlike you . you don’t know read your constitution, it is the law.

    • MAP

      8total, you better read the Constitution yourself. Nowhere is the Supreme Court given this power. They usuped it, just as the evil leftists are usurping power on a daily basis, with whining, crying and emotional appeals, all the while taking control of everything. And helped by a bunch of mindless robots and fools, too stupid and ignorant to know better.

    • Wyatt

      To those who think the AG is a judge , you are wrong , he is only a Director , appoimted by the president . And of the many we have had through our history , Eric Holder iss not only the worst most corrupt , he is the most incompetent . In fact as a lawyer he was a disaster . Had it not been for affirmative action he would never had graduated Collage . A ” D” student , graduates collage and becomes the AG ? Something is wrong with this picture .

      In reality , both Holder and his boss need to go . Both are as corrupt as the day is long and that is something this country does not need . That Obama’s first act was to seal any information about himself from school transcripts to his USGA Golf Handicap should have told people something . Now we discover that there is ample proof that Obama is not a legal candidate to be president , that would make Holder an illegal AG and everything that they have rammed through and in to law are also illegal .Add this to the illegal gun walking that resulted in the deaths of over 200 Mexican citizens and 2 United States Law Enforcement officers is a criminal act in it self and the master mind , needs be held accountable . Firing or resignation are not enough , arrest , trial and conviction are the only justifiable actions . And Barry Obama needs to be replaced along with Holder , arrested and tried right along with him . Should it be determined that he is an illegal president , then charges of treason should be brought against them .

      Regardless of your personal stance in this matter , it is criminal that a cover up of this has been placed in effect . Lies and deceptions are hallmarks of this matter and this is not to be permitted in our government

    • Kathy

      You can threaten anybody who has family or friends. That’s why spy organizations want folks who are single without family ties. Why do you think Hilliary backed off from the nomination in 2008 so quickly. Threaten Bill, “get lost”. Threaten Hillary, “get lost”. Threaten Chelsea, “I’m outta here”.

  • John E. Conley

    June 29th, 2012, was the real day America Died. Inspite of what the song, Bye Bye Miss American Pie told you, we the people just stood by and watched the third wheel of our system start the death of our country. I could go on but why, but why? So go and watch your sports program, eat hot dogs out back with drunken friends. It’s OK ! So maybe A million people before us died to keep us free, I mean how stupid can you be to die for a country full of people who just don’t give a (expletive deleted)!!!!!!!

    • John E. Conley

      This is john Conley, I posted a comment at 0755, telling everyone our country is dieing appears to be to strong of words for those who CONTROL this web site !!

      • Jimmy The Greek

        John it must have been a malfunction , Here you can say what you think , if not i would have been booted a long time ago . Freedom of speech lives on this site ,

        • Kathy

          LOL Drive carefully!!

      • the_reckoning

        John believe me brother there are millions who would agree. Like Patrick Henry once said in regard to truth,..GENTLEMAN, IT IS HUMAN NATURE WHEN WE HEAR A TERRIBLE TRUTH TO TURN OUR HEADS FROM IT, BUT FOR MYSELF SIR,I WOULD PREFER TO KNOW THE TRUTH NO MATTER HOW TERRIBLE IT MAY HAPPEN TO BE! That’s how real deal men deal with the terrible truth. Keep speaking the truth John.

      • Buster the Anatolian

        John E Conley. While Mr Livingston is very liberal in what he allows to be said here sometimes a post will go to moderation for review. Most times this is justified as in eddie47′s case but occasionaly a perfectly innocuous post goes to moderation because of a hiccup in the system. In the latter case if you politely call Mr Livingston’s attention to it he will get it corrected as quickly as he can.

        • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

          Dear Jimmy the Greek and Buster the Anatolian,

          Thank you.

          Best wishes,
          Bob

      • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

        Dear John E. Conley,

        You write: “I posted a comment at 0755, telling everyone our country is dieing (sic) appears to be to strong of words for those who CONTROL this web site !!” Please review our comment policy. Your post went to moderation because it contained a profanity. It is my opinion that use of profanities to make a point is indicative of a small or lazy mind. Expand your vocabulary and your comments won’t be moderated.

        Best wishes,
        Bob

  • dorseyclan

    America is reaping what she has sown! Remove God form everything and He allows the devil to have his way. Ignore His will and the blessings stop and the hurting begins. We are under Divine discipline, so wake up or suffer the consequences! Better spread the word.

  • Jimmy The Greek

    @ 8total The Chief Justice along with the rest of the clowns can kiss my @ss ! Every one in Washington needs to be replaced , And not by Ivy Leaguers that is the problem ! we need real working people that held real jobs , Not Lawyers .

  • Michael Hallczuk

    The Chief Justice is doing Fine. Tell the GOP to stuff it

  • dgllgh8

    (offensive post removed)

  • Chester

    For Jimmie the Greek, No lawyers = no laws, thus ultimate chaos. Of course, that would make your namesake very happy, as his original sponsors would then RUN the country, the way they ran a good number of cities for a long time. Oh,and the working man, forget about him. He belongs to whoever wants or needs his particular level of expertise, with no option of leaving and finding a better job. I suppose you have heard of company towns? How about a company country? No laws or lawyers, and that is where we would be, unless a lot of people learn very quickly how to mine and smelt lead and manufacture black powder.

    • Jimmy The Greek

      Chester laws don’t mean a dam thing ! I am sixty years old and have for the most part lived life as i pleased in spit of the law . If you only could know some of the things i have done along the way . I have lived a lifestyle some would only dream of and lived to grow old and not get busted . Motorcycles , Fast Cars , Partying , And still living prity dam good only slowing down because of age .

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Chester, No lawyers = No lawyers, period. The Law was around long before lawyers walked the planet.

  • Irene

    pleasr take me off your list. you have nothing but extreme wickedness and heartless things to say sbout our president. I refuse to be path of your evil hatered. God will judge all people according to their deeds. My goodness!!! this is beyound disgusting.

    • jacob

      IRENE :

      You must be either one of the 98% of African Americans who voted for OBAMA
      just because he was black or one of the 80% American Jews who made the
      same fatal error just because he was their party’s choice, overloking totally his
      “socialist” history and his excess baggage….
      Otherwise, you must then be another of the legion of morons that are more blind
      and deaf because you refuse to see and to hear, as I dare you to prove a single
      achievement of your President….
      All he has done so far with each and every single one of his actions is show he
      suffers of a bad case of “HOOF IN MOUTH” disease……..

      • Jimmy The Greek

        Well Sead jacob ! And right on the money .

      • firefight

        We can only make assumptions about who and what Irene is. Fact is, a smart dog will not bite the hand that feeds it. Get my point here? All I can say at this point is, “good night, good night Irene, Irene, good night.” LOL

      • http://N/A CintiCB

        Your comment about ‘hoof in mouth’ is SO true. The campaigning for the upcoming election has been SO ‘junior High’ like (bullying + namecalling). I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if it turns out that what is trying to be hidden is some unfeeling assinine comment from our ‘spin meister’ prez. He could have made some stupid comment about agent Terrys’ death and his family, such as, ‘So what, a few lives lost. They’ll get over it, The ONLY thing that matters, right now, is my reelection!!!’ Basically, F ‘em!

    • http://peresonallibertydigest.. gottaplenty

      Irene, poor baby You had better get out in the day light a bit .. You could just go down most American streets and be exposed to much worse

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Sharon Taylor

      When the “President” is evil and disgusting, it tends to cause people to say “evil & disgusting” things about him. Sounds like you’ve been drinking the Kool-aid. I suggest you put down the glass and remove your rose colored glasses so you can see what a travesty the occupant of the Oval Office has foisted upon this country, It will take years to recover from his bungling.

      • nc

        Sharon, did bush “bungle?” 69 million Americans in 2008 thought bush had “bungled” and a lot of us, especially those who lost their jobs under bush or later as the recession deepened, think that we are still suffering from his “bungling” and it may take years to get over the bush bungling! Like it took years to get over the hoover “bungling”!
        Somehow I feel a little more confortable with the Dow above 12,000 NOW as opposed to the below 7000 it was at the depth of the bush recession? Same for the S&P!!!How do you feel about that? REMEMBER!! ADULT INDEPENDENTS ARE WATCHING YOUR ANSWERS! THEY LIVED THROUGH THE bush YEARS AND THE HIT ON THEIR RETIREMENT PLANS AND JOBS!

      • Buster the Anatolian

        Bush has been gone for over three years so get over it nc. Except for the inflation driven rise in the stock market things are not significantly better now than they were when obama took the oath of office and thing are getting worse daily for those on a fixed income because of inflation.

      • Pathfinder

        Sharon; You seemed to have missed the democrat congress during Bushes last two years in office. You are correct when you state that the recession started during the bush admin. However, legislation creating that recession was initiated by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reed, then accelerated under Obama. (You may recall BOB laughing about the lack of shovel ready jobs during a news conference) Further, Obamas multiple stimulus bills and the railroading of Obamacare capped hiring and deepened the recession.
        Now Sharon do you realize the majority of jobs lost during the Obama admin were among women???? Bet you don’t know that. So, Sharon who do you think economically harmed women ( as in the “war” on women) …. non other than the lord, dictator in chief BOB.
        Face it , BOB is a bold faced LIAR who is intentionally ” Fundamentally Changing” ( BOBS words) and destroying America as we knew it. You can not trust this man. He, along with his democrat cohorts, are the worst thing to ever happen to this country.

      • Vigilant

        nc’s latest laughable comment, “…we are still suffering from his “bungling” and it may take years to get over the bush bungling! Like it took years to get over the hoover “bungling”!”

        Economists are generally agreed that the Depression was lengthened and deepened by FDR’s socialist policies. Just as Obama is doing with the recession they say no longer exists.

        As for those without work, ask them whether or not we’re in a recession.

    • Kathy

      Many people voted for Obama because they were encouraged by his energy and his promises and also disillusioned by President Bush. It had nothing to do with the fact he was half black. They voted for him because they believed his promises and they were duped as the Emporer has no clothes. Anyone who votes for him again is foolish or stupid. Has nothing to do with his being half black. He has no substance. When minorities groups get over whining about race, they will move ahead. Women did just that with affirmative action. They didn’t cry and pout every time they were slighted or discriminated against. They took their lumps and moved ahead. They became lawyers, doctors, stock brokers, business people, politicians and worked within the sytems. Now no one thinks having a woman doctor or lawyer or accountant is unusual. Go to school and get good grades, work while in school, go on to college, dress decently, bag the drugs, don’t drive like a maniac, learn manners, pay your debts and the world is yours!!

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Irene, such pious BS to shut people down from voicing their opinions,

    • http://boblivingstonpl.wordpress.com Bob Livingston

      Dear Irene,

      The truth is often bitter medicine. Some cannot stomach it.

      You have been removed.

      Best wishes,
      Bob

    • Old Henry

      Irene:

      You should not use the word president in any sentence that contains the word Obama Soetoro. He is not, cannot be, president. He is not eligible per the law of the land.

      You cannot legally be something that the law does not allow. It would be like calling myself a doctor or lawyer.

      Wise up dear lady. Read our Constitution.

    • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

      Irene, you failed to capitalize the word President. How could you be so disrespectful? Shame on you!

      • Kathy

        LOL I failed to capitalize president also, but did it out of disrespect!!

  • John E. Conley

    To Michael Hallczuk. When I first saw your statement, I thought your name was Karl Marx
    , sorry I guess I don’t see so good?

  • jacob

    Where I was born there is a proverb which translated into English, states that, if you
    want to watch a turd flying, give him power and this is what has happened to this
    “administration” and all its “administrators” from this poor excuse for a President on
    down, proven “ad nauseam” that they despise the American people and believing
    they are above the Law, which HOLDER’s attitude has proven beyond a shadow of
    a doubt and which no less than this President reinforced his despise for Congress
    by his stupid “Administrative Privilege” or whatever the name is…
    Now Democraps are arguing that their favorite punching ball, GWB, also invoked
    the same but overlooking that the distance between his claim’s reason to the one
    the ANNOITED ONE has, must be measured in light-years as in astronomy, just
    because HOLDER doesn’t deserve even to tie JOHN BOLTON’s shoelaces

  • firefight

    “In 2009, someone in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives approved plans to let some 2,000 illegal weapons in the United States get into the hands of a Mexican drug cartel. The idea was to track where the guns went, so they could nail some drug kingpins.”

    Mr. Bob Livingston and Mr. Chip Wood,
    First of all, let’s get one thing straight. The plan was NOT to track where guns went as stated in this article. There is absolutely no way to track a gun once it is in the hands of anyone unless there has been a tracking device, such as a micro-chip, installed in the weapon so that it can be electronically tracked just like in the spy movies. No such tracking devices were installed in any of these weapons. The whole agenda for this botched operation was to provide the Obama administration with evidence that American gun dealers were selling guns to drug cartels so that Obama’s anti-gun people could convince American voters to pass more gun restrictive legislation to further impede our freedoms to bear arms. THIS WAS THE AGENDA AND THIS WAS THE PURPOSE OF OPERATION FAST AND FURIOUS. Do not try to call it anything other than this. Thank God for individuals within the BATF with a conscience and moral fiber and with the intestinal fortitude who came forward to expose this Federal scam. It is sad that it cost the life of one of our brave and courageous officers, Border Agent Brian Terry, and even now, in the shadow of this loss of life, the Obama admistration is trying to justify its outrageous act of deceipt by imposing executive privilege. To me, this is an obvious admission of guilt on the part of this counterfeit President. A continuation of cover-ups just like all the others that continue to follow everything about him from his scholastic records, birth certificate to his illegal social security card to his forged selective service card. Everything about this administration stinks of corruption.

    If you are going to create an article, such as this, it is your obligation to portray the intent and the acts within the story for what they really are.

    • jacob

      FIREFIGHT :
      AMEN TO ALL YOU STATED
      Now lets work for kicking this “Christian” CZAR and his HOLDERS out of the White House

    • javamann

      Thank you for the clarification, it fits the pattern exactly.
      It’s all about the destruction of the Constitution, dumbing down, impoverishment and enslavement.
      Obama is a masterpiece: Is there a single promise that he has not cynically broken?
      Does any one recall his campaign speeches and still want to give him their support for another term?
      I weep for the USA of yesteryear.
      “Terrorism”! What a marvelous invention!
      America is certainly leading the world, or somebody is!

      • nc

        JAVAMANN, DO YOU REMEMBER THE bush PROMISES OF 2000 AS TO WHAT HIS FISCAL POLICY WOULD PRODUCE DURING HIS ADMINSTRATION?
        It was even backed up by the great thinkers(?) at the Heritage Foundation! They promised Congress and the American people that the surpluses would happen and the balanced budgets would occur from th bush fiscal policy! The Republican controlled Congress gave bush his “package”!!HOW DID THAT ALL TURN OUT???????????
        Over two million people lost their jobs during his LAST YEAR IN OFFICE!! That was when all of those wonderful thing he and the Heritage Foundation promised would be giving us great surpluses and NO deficits!!REMEMBER THAT??? NO?? DIDN’T HAPPEN?? IT WAS ALL ROSES WHEN OBAMA TOOK OVER??????????????/REALLY????????????
        GIVE US YOUR ASSESSMENT OF HOW SUCCESSFUL THE bush PROMISES WERE??
        REMEMBER THAT ADULTS ARE SEEING YOUR ASSESSMENT!! JUMP RIGHT IN!!!

      • JeffH

        nc, who’s the POTUS now? Who’s running the country?
        You continue to post pure ignorance by capitalizing(screaming)your posts.

        My god nc, why on earth are you so stuck on the republican/democrat thing. Two wrings have never justified a right…even if you continue to shout it repeatedly.

        You’re just one sick puppy and have no credibility whatsoever!

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        (Credit: CBS News)

        The National Debt has now increased more during President Obama’s three
        years and two months in office than it did during 8 years of the George W. Bush
        presidency.

        The Debt rose $4.899 trillion during the two terms of the Bush presidency. It
        has now gone up $4.939 trillion since President Obama took office.

        The latest posting from the Bureau of Public Debt at the Treasury Department
        shows the National Debt now stands at $15.566 trillion. It was $10.626 trillion
        on President Bush’s last day in office, which coincided with President Obama’s
        first day.

        The National Debt also now exceeds 100% of the nation’s Gross Domestic
        Product, the total value of goods and services.

        Mr. Obama has been quick to blame his predecessor for the soaring Debt,
        saying Mr. Bush paid for two wars and a Medicare prescription drug program with
        borrowed funds.

        The federal budget sent to Congress last month by Mr. Obama, projects the
        National Debt will continue to rise as far as the eye can see. The budget shows
        the Debt hitting $16.3 trillion in 2012, $17.5 trillion in 2013 and $25.9
        trillion in 2022.

        Federal budget records show the National Debt once topped 121% of GDP at the
        end of World War II. The Debt that year, 1946, was, by today’s standards, a mere
        $270 billion dollars.

        Mr. Obama doesn’t mention the National Debt much, though he does want to be
        seen trying to reduce the annual budget deficit, though it’s topped a trillion
        dollars for four years now.

        As part of his “Win the Future” program, Mr. Obama called for “taking
        responsibility for our deficits, by cutting wasteful, excessive spending
        wherever we find it.”

        His latest budget projects a $1.3 trillion deficit this year declining to
        $901 billion in 2012, and then annual deficits in the range of $500 billion to
        $700 billion in the 10 years to come.

        If Mr. Obama wins re-election, and his budget projections prove accurate, the
        National Debt will top $20 trillion in 2016, the final year of his second term.

        That would mean the Debt increased by 87 percent, or $9.34 trillion, during his
        two terms.”

    • Kathy

      Great reply fireflight!! Going to read it again and make sure it all seeps in.

  • Bev

    Chip you better be careful with using the words “color him gone”. You know a lot people might take that as racist. Never mind that justice is supposed to be blind – in AG Holder’s world she’s always peeking under that blindfold to see what skin color the justice is for. I think he’s being told to cover for the real mastermind of the FF game and that it is someone in the White House who was calling the shots. It’s time to get some of the lower players to roll on the top by offering immunity (etc). At least now with a civil contempt a judge will be able to peruse the documents that Holder’s claim are protected by executive privilege. We will see won’t we; although I know it won’t be today but there is no statute of limitations on murder.

    • Jimmy The Greek

      Bev the best way to get info is Fear and pain ! trust me it works well .

    • Kathy

      Does anyone know why Congress went with Civil Contempt rather than Criminal Contempt?

      • JeffH

        Kathy, Congress has charged AG Holder with Criminal Contempt.
        The House approved a precedent-setting resolution to hold Attorney General Eric Holder in criminal contempt of Congress, marking the first time a sitting Cabinet member has been held in contempt.
        http://www.nydailynews.com/news/house-votes-holder-contempt-article-1.1104186#ixzz1zDE596CX

        • Kathy

          Thanks, Jeff! Just received the email below. The Justice Department should be held in Contempt of Congress!!! What a 3 ring circus!!!

          Justice Department says in letter obtained by Fox News it won’t prosecute Attorney General Eric Holder after the GOP-led House voted to hold him in criminal contempt of Congress

          More headlines from FoxNews.com:
          http://email.foxnews.com/t?ctl=232E2:E26414D083F193C0C5771B49292B1B8F

      • TIME

        Dear Jeff,

        Yes – But saddly its the JD that follows up on the charges and they will never go after him.
        As that would expose the fact that the JD is not quite what people think it is, athat just can’t happen.

        Peace and Love

  • http://yahoo Shirley Leger

    read about FEMA CAMPS. America is in trouble

    • firefight

      Good point Shirley. I thought FEMA stood for Federal Emergency Management Administration or something like that. Last I knew of them doing anything to help anyone was helping all of the black folks in New Orleans after Katrina. Here we are in Colorado with fires everywhere, close to 400 homes burned to the ground, people displaced with not much more than the clothes on their backs and what are we hearing from FEMA? nothing! It appears to me that FEMA only responds to an emergency when it suits the government and their agenda. We’ll see what happens today. Obama is on his way here to survey the damage. There are people here who plan on telling him that we need Federal assistance financially. We’ll see how he handles the situation. Could be that FEMA’s new job is NOT helping in emergencies like this but only in uprisings against the government as has been predicted.

      • Jimmy The Greek

        Rich white Folks , That is what Washington thinks of you , so don’t hold your breath .

      • javamann

        The economy collapses, no electricity, water.
        Food stores broken into, heavy fighting on the streets.
        The police and militia and the military are stretched to the limit as the carnage grows.
        FEMA says we will help by evacuating everyone to our protection camps; we have stores of food for just this sort of situation. You will stay until things, the killing etc., dies down.
        All aboard these army lorries: the cage like appearance? That’s to protect you against
        missiles.

      • http://none Claire

        Has anyone checked out the Military Commissions Act of 2006 —–HR6166 — 219 Republicans and 34 Democrats voted for it.

  • John E. Conley

    Now Irene calm down, we are talking about a black man not the black race. Please get over it! I know you can see only the blacks point of ( Oh my God ) but every race has faced it and moved on, except some in America. By doing this crying thing, you take away from all black people who went out and became someone by improving something. And NO! that does not make them an Uncle Tom!!

  • http://peresonallibertydigest.. gottaplenty

    And we havn’t seen the end of this unlawful action as long as we have ilegals in hi places. Especially after we opened the voting booth to apes , coons ,and possums that dont even have to be a citizen or pay taxes. Vote for some imposter , not even fitting the criteria given by the constitution to be potus and the overwhelming vote buying with wellfare and food stamps.. There are more stupid people than ones with the ability to reason than you think.

    • Gabriel

      There should be an IQ test for all voters before they can vote. This test will show the percentage of stupids, idiots and morons. The question is if the results shows there are more voters that are stupid, idiot and morons………….well …….that means the DEMOCRATS will win elections lol.

      • Hey you

        Obviously, you don’t believe in democracy (i.e. One person, one vote). That mantra plus “fairness” has replaced “The Divine Right of Kings”. And like the DRofK, is ending badly which is no surprise.

        My belief is centered in “ancestor memory” which essentially means that the people in action today are making the same mistakes that their (savage) ancestors did.

  • Nottakenyan

    Just another LFN pulling the ole’ NAACP race card crapola!!!!

  • http://google john p.

    Fast and Furious was a way to do away with the Second AMENDMENT.
    and the brains be hind it . I think was Obama , Hillary , holder , they all
    want your Gun’s . and they were going to blame Gun sales persons but
    it blew up in there faces . and Obama sealed all records of fast and furious .
    so what dose that tell you about what happened . it has Obama all over it
    along with Hillary and Holder .

  • the_reckoning

    This is all well and good, however might we Americans take a short stroll down memory lane. Has everyone forgotten that early on when this story broke a certain current secretary of state started hopping up and down laying the blame for this at the door step of lawful American gun owners. Further more,does anyone recall a similar incident called Iran Contra? And that same aforementioned secretary of state at that time being married to a little known governor of a state called Arkansas,and an airport in that state called Mena where it has been said planes with weapons where taking off and returning loaded with a white substance and that certain governors brother I believe his name was Roger said in regard to his then governor brother, my brother will love this he has a nose like a vacuum,and least we not forget that the other criminal political crime family was involved in that as well. Anyone see a connection? Holder may very well go he will be thrown under the bus to keep this from going all the way back,right back to where it needs to go to finally open the eyes of the delusional in this country once and for all. Folks our country has been hijacked and it was hijacked long ago,Can anyone say “MAGIC BULLET” that makes seven wounds?..Just a Little more food for thought… Get rid of both these political “POTTIES” that are both full of crap, take back our country and restore it to what the founders intended for it to be.GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC, GOD HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

    • Jimmy The Greek

      I remember that !

  • salcitino

    The most glaring problerm with our government is the fact that the separation of powers is seriously flawed in that the Supreme Court is made up by the political party in power by the power of the President with his partners in the Senate AND NOT ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE WHO VOTE FOR THEIR CHOICE OF PRESIDENT AND MEMBER OF OONGRESS. THE PEOPLE ARE DENIED THEIR CHOICE FOR MEMBERS OF THE SUPREME COURT. UNTIL THE CONSTITUTION IS AMMENDED TO GIVE THE PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO VOTE FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE SUPREME COURT, THEIR IS TRULY NO SEPARATION OF POWERS. THE PRESENT FLAWED SYSTEM
    IS STACKED AGAINST THE PEOPLE.SO THAT THE POWER BROKERS CAN CONTROL OUR LIVES. AND THAT IS NOT DEMOCRACY FOR THE PEOPLE.

  • http://yahoo wendell

    Justice Jon Roberts probably out smarted all the other justices and obama also with his ruling about forcing people to buy insurance is really tax instead of a penalty on them. Read this about why Jon Roberts ruled like he did. http://www.humanevents.com/2012/06/28/erick-erickson-roberts-forces-us-to-deal-with-health-care-politically/

    • Jimmy The Greek

      I hope you are right !

  • Roger

    “But I don’t have to wait another minute to predict that it’s just a matter of time before Holder is no longer our Nation’s top law-enforcement officer”

    I,m afraid that’s in the wishful thinking category. Holder is only one of many Obama henchmen lawbreakers, Obama himself being the chief who if having not already been exposed and imprisoned as America’s traitorous enemy, there’s not much hope the rest of his minions will be fully purged. The real enemy is liberalism, Obama being the most liberal politician, eligible or not, ever to impose his lies on this country.

    Liberalism is the problem, the Obamas and Holders merely carry that disease.

    Instaurare Omnia in Christo

  • Joey Biden

    Horses ass Holder needs to be sent straight to Gitmo and waterboarded until he tells the truth. That’s the only way the real truth will come out now that he’s hiding behind the Liar in Chief.

  • tom s

    Something I wonder about: why has there been no “outcry” from Mexico about “our” federal govt allowing all those weapons to be sent to Mexico? Even the Fox news has never mentioned the Mexicans outrage?? We lost (at least) two of ours to those weapons, but Mexico lost many more to the weapons….

  • Russell

    I would like to know what would be happening right now if Brian Terry had been a Black agent. Would the Black Democrats have walked out of the vote for contempt?

  • firefight

    I believe everyone here has expresed their feelings, opinions and wishes on the subject. So shall I. In reality, there have been very few instances in history where the people’s will was acknowledged by this government. It was acknowledged with Nixon’s resignation subsequent to Watergate but disregarded in Clinton’s escapades in Lewinski-gate. It seems that our wishes and demands have little meaning to politicians. What matters is what the puppetmasters want and what fits into their agendas. When in the course of all of this, the people have truley had enough, they will rise up in arms against the tyranny and defeat it. This is why this botched operation was planned in the first place. A full scale attempt with firearms to overthrow this tyranical government is what THEY fear. THEY want to get rid of our ability to do such a thing and taking away our guns is the only way they can accomplish complete control of the people. Operation “Fast and Furious” was meant to be a stepping stone in that direction. We need to see beyond the evil administrator of the plot and see the agenda as it was approved by the White House and the potus.

    • Pathfinder

      Before Fast and Furious(F&F) made headlines, BOB held a news conference in which he stated that the fed would need to ‘tighten our firearms laws” because to many firearms were making their way across the boarder into Mexico. Repeat… the statement was made BEFORE F&F MADE HEADLINES. Now, that tells me that BOB had first hand knowledge
      (as did Holder) and is now being covering up w/ executive privilege. Want to learn the truth …. Vote in a Republican in November and then appoint a special prosecutor

    • http://none Jude

      You are so right firef A LITTLE GUN HISTORY
      In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control.
      From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents,
      unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
      exterminated.
      In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915
      to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend
      themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
      Germany established gun control in 1938 and from
      1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and
      others who were unable to defend themselves were
      rounded up and exterminated.
      China established gun control in 1935. From 1948
      to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable
      to defend themselves, were rounded up and
      exterminated.
      Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From
      1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to
      defend themselves, were rounded up and
      exterminated.
      Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971
      to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend
      themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.
      Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From
      1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable
      to defend themselves, were rounded up and
      exterminated.
      Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in
      the 20th Century because of gun control: 56
      million.
      You won’t see this data on the US evening news, or
      hear politicians disseminating this information.
      Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives
      and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely
      affect only the law-abiding citizens.
      Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too
      late!
      The next time someone talks in favor of gun
      control, please remind them of this history
      lesson.
      With guns, we are ‘citizens’. Without them, we
      are ‘subjects’.
      During WW II the Japanese decided not to invade
      America because they knew most Americans were
      ARMED!
      If you value your freedom, please spread this anti
      gun-control message to all of your friends.
      The purpose of fighting is to win.
      There is no possible victory in defense.
      The sword is more important than the shield, and
      skill is more important than either.
      The final weapon is the brain.
      All else is supplemental.
      SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN
      SWITZERLAND’S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY
      ISSUE A RIFLE.
      SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE
      OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!
      IT’S A NO BRAINER!
      DON’T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX
      DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING
      CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET.
      I’m a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment!
      If you are too, please forward. ight this is long but informative regarding gun control

      • Kathy

        Totally agree. You must be a GOA. Agree with most of your comments. Will copy and paste and forward your comments to friends. Thank you.

  • wizard

    It is a steo in the right direction. Will they follow through?

  • http://yahoo Bloodaxe

    I predict nothing will come of this scandal. Mr. Obama and his minions will stonewall this ’til the end of time. The dark secret they’re hiding is the fact that the whole purpose of this boneheaded operation was to send weapons to criminal gangs in Mexico who would kill people by the score- which has happened, not that anyone cares- and then they could point with feigned shock and horror at all the carnage down south and set up a great hue & cry for more gun control laws up here. It all fell apart when a Border Patrol Agent was shot with an AK-47 sold by a US gunstore to Mexican thugs.
    Perhaps the perps in this atrocious bloody fiasco were thinking about a similar but successful operation in Australia a few years ago. An assassin with an assault rifle murdered a large number of people in Hobart, Tasmania and the resulting outcry was used to ram through gun confiscation laws. The civilian population there has been disarmed, the ultimate goal of the anti-gun fanatics in the US. The Australian anti-gun nuts were assisted in this operation by an American leftist lesbian named Rebecca peters, a hireling of the monster George Soros.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1417763559 Beno

    Holder is worse then anyone in his position, a liar, a puppet of the WH and a administration that is anything but open, Holder doesn’t represent the people but his lord and savior little god obozo, idiot-in-chief of the U.S. sad, satan now runs the WH and our law enforcement, evil is trying to appear good, that is a joke from a man who is illegal and shouldn’t be president to begin with.

  • Thinking About

    Operation Wide Receiver and Fast and Furious perhaps have been failures and somewhat hampered by current gun laws. Like the gun buyer who was on food stamps could go out and purchase so many guns at one time. Also the ATF agent so much involved in the gun walking may be the one protected most until more investigation happens and he is the person who should be prosecuted. It is also somewhat of question of where this agent was assigned in Maricopa County and also the DOJ is investigating this county. When the real truth comes out and more learn the real events perhaps the worse thing to have happened is for the House to hold Holder in contempt.

  • smokewagon1984

    “We need to do this every day of the week,and just really brainwash people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way.” -Eric Holder 1995 (Mission Accomplished)

  • wizard

    It is a step in the right direction. Will they follow through?

  • paul collins

    If admenments to a bill becomes part of that bill and line item is uncontintutionalby a previouscourt ruling then by making the mandate unconstitutional causes the whole bill null and void.

  • Syl

    After Holder is gone, those documents are still required to resolve the Fast and Furious fiasco. If the new AG also tries to protect the president’s involvement, he too should be disnissed — until someone with integrity produces the evidence required.

  • Old Henry

    Well Chip, F&F was not “bungled”. It went exactly as planned. They got thousands of guns illegally / treasonously into the hands of Mexican gangsters. The gangsters would then use the guns to murder and plunder and the guns would then be traced back here. Their hired help in the MSM would then work the public into frenzy. This would then allow the Communist foreign-national Kenyan to rally his fellow Communists in Congress to clamp down on guns, gun sales, gun owners.

    If the word bungled could be used it would be in the context of Brian Terry being murdered by some of Soetor and Holder’s accomplices and then a patriot in the ATF blowing the whistle.

    Little Barry Soetoro is up to his eyeballs in F&F and as with Holder he is an accomplice to several hundred murders, not the least of which was one of our border guards. By this point in time they should have both been removed in handcuffs and locked up in Leavenworth awaiting trial, conviction and hanging.

    With a vote or 255 – 67 in favor of the criminal contempt of Congress it looks pretty conclusive. However, it also leaves 113 members of the House who did not vote and are derelict in their duty which once again shows that it is very difficult to hire good help these days.

    And as I told my Congressman last week end the House does not need the Senate to arrest and jail Holder. However, we must remember, we haave The Weeper of the House who is simply a go along to get along political hack. He will do whatever TPTB order him to do.

    • TIME

      Dear Old Henry,

      Saddly the fact is that thousands of Mexicans have been killed. From what I understand the number is around 35,000.
      And its still going on even as we post here.

      Hey I hope all is well with you. Peace and Love

  • Humpty Dumpty

    Chip,
    How about Obama’s Presidential Executive Orders? Aren’t many of them in contempt of the U.S. Constitution? Presidential Executive Orders become what amounts to an ‘autocrat ruler’s’ ruling that no one in the USA can contest, reject, repeal, etc. once a PEO is published in the Federal Register. PEOs need to be done away with while Congress is filing contempt charges, I think.

    • http://wildeyguns.com Wildey

      Where did Obama learn about signing statements? The republican Bush of course. FDR blessed America with the most at over 3,000 but Bush and Obama are right there with him. FDR knocked at the door to hell and Satan answered. FDR presented his credentials to be allowed into hell. After reading them Saan turned to him and said..”Get out of here. If I let you in they’ll kick me out”. I wonder how Bush and Obama and their ilk will fair.

  • Stevinlc

    It is a disgrace the way our AG and DHS personnel have acted on behalf of the President elect. This regime has conducted itself as socialist and seem to have one goal in mind….the downfall of the United States! It appears the citizens of the US are the enemy while illegal immigrants, radicals from other countries, and what-ever get the welcome treatment at our expense. They are students of Marx/Engels and the Communist Manifesto. They must be a student of Sun-Tze and his “Art of War” which teaches to strike with chaos inside the country.

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  • http://personallibertyalert none381

    holder and obama go hand inhand get rid of both of them.liars protect liars……

  • old hillbilly

    Think of it this way, in 6+ months, we may have enough change in the legislatures to take this country back. That’s a good time to put these bastards in chains & parade them up & down Pennsylvania Av. from January to Memorial Day!!

    • http://wildeyguns.com Wildey

      In the book of Metthew 24&25, we learn that pestilence, that’s extreme weather conditions, and wars and rumors of wars will accompany the last days until Christ returns. These conditions are not to be every place but America, on the contrary, America will suffer the most. We say on our coin “In God We Trust” and are doing everthing in our power to throw Him out. What blasphemy. I think it would pay to read and understand John 3:16 myself. I see no hope with America’s political system but wars with America’s political agenda?

  • gunner689AI

    Holder, BO, and the whole Black Cockus, can march their communist asses down to the dock and board the next ship back to their motherland.

    • http://wildeyguns.com Wildey

      Your wrong gunner. Black people are as much victims to what’s going on as white people. As long as you think like that, the communist are sure to win. It’s called “divide and conquer”. We must enlighten people, not aleinate them. Remember, Obama won with the majority of the white vote. National ignorance put him in power but come to think of it, do you really think McCain would of been better?

      • gunner689AI

        Maybe, but I for one am tired of trying to educate ignorant people. If you voted for BO to show that your not racist, vote for someone else to show your not stupid. McCain wouldn’t have intentionally set out to destroy America like BO.

  • Lloyd

    Someone recently submitted a comment to an article that described Hitlers rise to power. Oddly enough it bore a close resemblance to someone else. Now there another item to add to the list; placing certain people into positions of power.
    It gets worse by the day. Holder defies congress, Obama exerts executive privilege, justice department will not prosecute. Does this sound like democratic republic? Where are we headed? Will it do any good to go through impeachment proceedings? Will they just ignor that too, and say it’s racist, or that we don’t have the authority? Do theytake control of the elections or possibly “cancel” elections. All of the steps to do it are in place. When do they start executing key politicians in the name of national security, just to get them out of the way. Wasn’t that about the point where Hitler gained complete control? Ok whats next, what did it take to uunseat Hitler? WWII! Is this where we are headed, “God” I pray not.
    GOD BLESS THE U.S.A.
    Lloyd

    • http://wildeyguns.com Wildey

      Obama came to power hell bent to finally turn America into a communist form of government. Promises? Obama? Stalin said…” Promises are like pie crust, made to be broken”. The only thing standing between absolute tyranny in America is the 2nd amendment. We’re losing the first amendment which opens a door of enlightenment for the people as to what’s going on.

      • Thinking About

        By your comment Bush must have wanted the same thing with operation wide receiver program.

    • http://www.politicosense.blog.com Johnnie

      Man you are a real conspiracy loser aren’t you? The Republicans are the facists especially the Teabaggers. They want everyone to do as they say. Ever heard of the Taliban. You need some help with your personality problems and all these fantasies you spout. None of what you say is happening except in your mind. Get help Lloyd, if you can’t afford therapy the ACA will assist you. Mental Health is important. Get help. You’ll feel better….

  • Jimbo

    How is it that Democrats voted almost unanimously to REJECT the contempt of Congress charge, while Republicans voted unanimously FOR the contempt charge? Holder either lied to Congress and withheld documents or he did not. You’d think that if the congressmen and women were acting with honesty and integrity, the same general percentage on both sides of the aisle would vote for the contempt charge. They would realize the heath of the nation is more important than political bames So either the Democrats have no integrity, or the Republicans have no integrity.

    • Thinking About

      All members of the House should read the article in Fortune and then get up and tell the truth and we will see who has intergrity.

    • http://www.politicosense.blog.com Johnnie

      The Republican Congress, both men and women, voted for the contempt charge because as usual they were kissing ass with the NRA who threatened to score them. The real leaders in the Congress told the NRA to keep out of the business of governing. They don’t cowtow to extortion. Puppets on a string…

  • Steve L.

    HEY CHIP YOU MESSED UP NOW YOU FESS UP. THE GUNS FOUND AT THE MURDER SCENE WERE LEGALLY BOUGHT AND THE ATF AGENTS WERE FORBIDDEN TO STOP THE BUYER. AMERICA’S ENEMIES COULDN’T BE HAPPIER AT THE DAMAGE YOUR HELPING TO DO TO THIS COUNTRY BY PRINTING THIS AND NOT TELLING YOUR READER’S THE WHOLE STOREY

    • http://wildeyguns.com Wildey

      They weren’t “legally bought”. The dealers were told to break the law and make ILLEGAL sales by the ATF. The dealers tried to stop it but the arm was put to them. One ATF agent blew the whistle and that’s the crime was brought to light. He’s paid for actions dearly.

      • Thinking About

        anyone 18 or older can purchase weapons, they are recruited by mexican drug gangs to purchase weapons. This was happening before fast and furious and is still happening, it is legal to do so with current gun laws, it has nothing to do with ATF.

  • Stevinlc

    Now, just to shove crap in Congress’s face and also the US Citizens, the Almighty DOJ said they were not going to do anything to ole Eric………Great sudents of dictatorship! Do as I say, not as I do! Since when does the DOJ tells the law makers basically to “go to and stay put”. Just think, many of our officials were Black Panthers, thugs, Weathermen, etc and let us not forget, those wonderful teachers in the late 60s and etc. Now, the inmates run the Government! How does a NBP leader threaten to kill people and the AG and DOJ looks the other way? I guess I was absent the day in college when the Professor taught that subject………

    • http://wildeyguns.com Wildey

      Who heads the Dep’t of “justice”? Did you expecting anything different?

    • http://www.politicosense.blog.com Johnnie

      You must have missed a few college classes because you are ignorant. AG Holder did nothing wrong. Issa the criminal, was determined to make a name for himself and that’s what this was. A witch hunt and then a Vendetta. Even Issa the criminal admitted in a interview that AG Holder didn’t know anything and did nothing wrong. That’s why he had his little hearing, boycotted by the sane people, on the day of the ACA decision. he wanted to be in the dark like most criminals when they do their treachery. Maybe, you could go back to college and make up the classes you obviously slept through. What a shrill troll you are.

      • peter B.

        Correct me if I am wrong-is this not the same Eric Holder who refused to charge and/or prosecute black panthers who. armed and threatening, intimidated voters at the poll?

  • Thinking About

    Now the truth is coming out about Fast and Furious we should hold every House member who vote to hold Holder in contempt of Congress in contempt themselves for making a mockery out of the House. Guns are being sold in Maricopa county to anyone over 18 years and who does not have criminal record and then they are resold to anyone they please. ATF only tried to track those guns. People on food stamps was purchasing guns in large quantities and reselling them for a profit. Are these same people paying taxes on their profits, doubt it. They continue to use our social system and keep walking.

  • http://wildeyguns.com Wildey

    To me the firing of Holder by Obama would akin to Adolph Hitler firing Adolph Eichmann. The government the people of America are serving consists of people are like those that made up the Nazi or the Communist regimes. Our wall between the government and the people, the Constitution, is in the trash heap. It’s being interpreted by politicians donning robes. Lets face it, the American people have lost control of their own government. They’re punch drunk taking each blow from government and are either to apathetic or terrorized do anything about. They had a chance with Ron Paul but elected to have the pick of two tyrants. By tyrant I mean a ruler that expects all to fall to his own will and appetite. “When I blowa da whis! Everybody offa da dock”. Do have 25 men willing to sign the Declaration of Independence? Do we have people wiling to stand up with them? READ the of Declaration of Independence. Are we afraid to hold it up as our rallying cry?

    • http://www.politicosense.blog.com Johnnie

      Where were you when the real nazi regime was in power. Remember Cheney and Bush the Torturors, Lying to Congress, Outing Cia Agents. I could go on and on but you are obvious a bigot and facts wouldn’t mean anything to you. Loser

      • http://wildeyguns.com Wildey

        You don’t hear me. I call them Republicrats. Buh layed out the red carpet for Obama. They all huddle in the same buildings and rooms. FDR said…”When you hear something is happening in politics, things don’t just happen. You can bet they were planned that way”. We’ll never know how many republicans were savvy to Holders action. This was said about FDR but it fits Bush and Cheney. They knocked on the door to hell and Satan answered. With that they presented their credentials for entrance to hell. After reading then Satan said… “Get out of here. If I let you in, they’ll kick me out.”

  • Peter Bertagnolli

    In the “unreal world” that the dems live in, Holder will get a standing ovation and probably a medal from congress. This is, after all, how the dems operate. They reward incompetence and bad behavior by promoting and giving committee chairmanships out.

    • http://www.politicosense.blog.com Johnnie

      And unfortunately, they don’t prosecute Criminals like Bush and Cheney for Torture which is against International laws. What a joke they are, they can’t even travel to some civilized countries for fear of arrest.

  • http://www.politicosense.blog.com Johnnie

    Only thing this so-called article forgets to mention is that Issa has the contempt of the citizens in the country. You also didn’t mention that he is an ex-con with a long history of convictions and arrests for Arson, Weapons Charges and Car Theft. Even Congressional Republicans think he’s a grandstanding pimp out to promote his self. The Democrats ignored him and sought to sanction him for his obvious witch hunt and Vendetta. He’s such a coward, he schedule his hearing on the day the ACA decision came out pushing his illegal activities into the darkness where most criminals are comfortable. He’s a laugh and a clown. His activities have made the Congressional Republicans even look worse to the voters. They had to cowtow to their masters the NRA. Now, that’s leadership. I can’t wait until Nov when you Teabaggers are sent back to your Plantations. Maybe then President Obama and the Democratic Congress can fix the mess GW left and get us back to progress. Forward Vote Obama/Biden and Democratic Party 2012. Throw the traitors out!

    • Thinking About

      Furthermore if Issa had wanted to be an upstanding member of Congress and really wanted to give truthful information he would not have been able to grand stand on total unfruitful hearings. He is making himself to be wrong and will not need a hearing to show he is indeed a big liar.

    • gunner689AI

      Poor Johnnie; another victim of todays public education system.

      • swampfox

        Jesus is coming soon,VERY SOON,to get his church out of here,I can’t wait,
        If he and they are this deceived now,they will go bonkers for the anti-Christ!
        There is a reckoning coming……

  • Liberterian

    The DEA and the ATf have to go. Remember Waco and Ruby Ridge. The drug war has to end it stops nothing, creates violent crime and destroys our economy. Judges, politicians and all involved are users and making big money on its misery.

  • Bob

    Between Obama and Holder I don’t know who the bigger liar is, but they both must go.

  • david

    Holder is a picture of the crime itself, Obama’s thug.

  • http://gillysrooms.blogspot.com GILLYSROOMS IN AUSTRALIA

    IN MY OPINION LOOKING INTO YOUR SYSTEM, believe Eric Holder should keep his job Chip, this is one of your systems main fault when those who hold judicial office fear losing those jobs unless they do what the parliament your Congress demand they do etc whereas in Australia we have a separation of powers between politicians and the parliament. Whats the point in having a Justice system being controled by your members of Congress. Might as well save the money and sack the lot. From my perspective he was discharging his duties as he should or would do in Australia or the UK.

    Your justice system is broken because your politicians are meddling where they should not. I suggest your powers that be go back to the start and admit your Constitution has either failed or mis interptreted by your interpreters of Constitution and law,

  • old hillbilly

    I knew there was a reason our way back pappys kicked the Brits out. Silly Gilly can have his as he likes – it’s his playpen & sandbox. Me, I don’t want any alley cats crapping in my children’s sand box.

    I want the justice department to flat out enforce the laws of the land… not making it up to satisfy his sick communist agenda. It’s up to the legislatures to make the laws & Holder & Obama are oath sworn to uphold the laws, never make them. Holder is a disgrace to his office and country and so is the liar in chief of truth in this country. Time to impeach both, just like we did with tricky dick. (either one…)

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.jones.14418 John Jones

      Yes Old Hillbilly I Definately Agree With You About Obama & Holder Being Stupid Morons & Compulsive Liars They Definately Have To Go Bye, Bye . You Ought To Check Out My Buddy Hank Willams Jr’s Country Music Video Keep The Change On You Tube . Com . It’ll Have You Laughing So Hard It Did Me Check It Out If You Want To . Wait Til You See How Obama’s Pictures Look .

  • commador

    Obama has to go!!!

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