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Enough Lies About The Attack In Libya!

October 5, 2012 by  

Enough Lies About The Attack In Libya!
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Iranian demonstrators chant anti-American slogans as they burn an American flag.

In the past three weeks, there have been riots and demonstrations against the United States in many Muslim countries. In Egypt, our embassy grounds were stormed, the U.S. flag was torn down and burned, and an Islamic flag was erected in its place. The worst assault was in Benghazi, Libya, where terrorists rampaged through our consulate and murdered our ambassador, Christopher Stevens, and three other Americans.

We’ve been told over and over again by our leaders that it all happened because of Islamic outrage over a 14-minute video clip that appeared on YouTube.

What a bunch of hogwash! The riots occurred because a bunch of murderous jihadists have been taught to hate the United States. They call us “the Great Satan” and blame us for virtually everything that’s gone wrong in the world for the past 100 years. They’re willing to wage war by any means, including turning women and infants into suicide bombers, to kill us.

Used to be, our government could be counted on to defend our people and our policies — with force, if necessary. Sadly, this is not the case anymore. Ever since he took office, Barack Obama’s policy has been one of apology and accommodation. No wonder these murderous extremists believe they can attack us with impunity.

Shortly after the world learned about the events that transpired this past Sept. 11 (does anyone anywhere think the date was just a coincidence?), the Obama Administration went into overdrive to blame what had happened on a video clip that (a) had been around for weeks and (b) almost no one had ever seen.

Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, quickly emerged as the Administration’s chief spokesman on network TV. Her message was the same everywhere she went: “It began spontaneously in Benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in Cairo, where, of course, as you know, there was a violent protest outside of our embassy sparked by this hateful video.”

Of course, we know now that the attack in Benghazi was anything but spontaneous. But that’s the spin the Administration kept trying to put on that horrendous affair.

White House Press Secretary Jim Carney was another one who played a major role in the “deflect the blame” game. He told assembled reporters, “I think it’s important to note with regards to that protest that there are protests taking place in different countries across the world that are responding to the movie that has circulated on the Internet.”

Nearly two weeks after the deadly attacks, Obama traveled to New York City to address the U.N. General Assembly. During his speech, he denounced the “crude and disgusting” video clip six times. But he didn’t mention “terrorism” or al-Qaida once.

But then, ever so slowly, the truth began to seep out. Not thanks to any of our leaders, heaven knows. No, one of the first people to use the word “terrorism” was Mohammed Magarief, the new leader of Libya. He called the assault “a pre-planned act of terrorism against American citizens.”

Magarief pointed out that the attackers used rocket-propelled grenades and mortars against our consulate — weapons that spontaneous mobs are very unlikely to possess. And he said the date of the attack — 11 years to the day since 9/11 — was not a coincidence, but a premeditated choice.

In an interview with NBC News, Magarief also pointed out that the trailer for the alleged movie had been online for months without leading to a single demonstration in the Mideast — or anywhere else, for that matter. The video had “nothing to do with this attack,” he declared.

Now we learn that Stevens had been worried for months about the “never-ending” security threats in Benghazi. In a notebook that was found in the ransacked consulate, he even wrote that he was on an al-Qaida hit list. Yet no special security measures were put in place to protect him or our consulate.

Finally, on Sept. 27, more than two weeks after Stevens’ murder, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta acknowledged what had now become clear to anyone who was following the story: This was no spontaneous demonstration but a deliberate terrorist attack.

“I think, on the terrorist attack, I mean, as we determined the details of what took place there and how that attack took place, that it became clear that there were terrorists who had planned that attack,” Panetta said.

Carney also changed his tune: “It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack.” But even then, Carney still tried to insist the attack “was the result of opportunism, taking advantage of and exploiting what was happening as a result of reaction to the video that was found to be offensive.”

But if the fact this was a terrorist attack is now “obvious” and “self-evident,” let me ask you: Why did top officials in the Obama Administration, including Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, deliberately mislead the American people for the first two weeks after it happened?

Even now, our President tries to downplay the significance of what took place, saying merely that our foreign policy has suffered some “bumps in the road.” The foreign media have not been nearly as kind to the Administration as our own press has been. A headline in the German newspaper Der Spiegel put it bluntly: “Obama’s Middle East Policy Is In Ruins.”

That may be the view from Germany. But it’s certainly not how the press sees things — or explains things — here in the United States.

Can you imagine how the mainstream media in this country would have reacted if something like this had occurred while George Bush was in office? And if word had gotten out that the President was skipping most of his daily intelligence briefings so he could campaign for reelection in Las Vegas and Hollywood?

Actually, you don’t have to imagine. Just check how the media reacted to Mitt Romney’s comments about the mealy mouthed statement that was originally issued by our embassy in Egypt. Even the State Department was forced to disown that one.

We already knew that the Obama Administration was a miserable failure at defending U.S. interests abroad. Now it turns out that it won’t even tell us the truth when we’re attacked.

History teaches us over and over again that weakness only invites more aggression. There’s no way Obama and his team will learn this lesson. Hopefully, in another month, the voters will decide to replace them — and a whole bunch of Senators and Representatives, too.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

–Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • phideaux

    Excellent article Chip.

    • Vigilant

      Ditto.

      • Robert Smith

        “Ever since he took office, Barack Obama’s policy has been one of apology and accommodation. No wonder these murderous extremists believe they can attack us with impunity.”

        I guess you didn’t get the memo… Osama is dead, along with a bunch of his henchmen.

        Rob

      • FreedomFighter

        History teaches us over and over again that weakness only invites more aggression. There’s no way Obama and his team will learn this lesson. Hopefully, in another month, the voters will decide to replace them — and a whole bunch of Senators and Representatives, too.

        To not give bullets to the brave Marines guarding the Stevens and the Embassy on 9-11 no less, is treason.

        To give such a blood sacrifice of our American men and women to these 9th century cultist primatives, whom whorship a demon, follow the demon possessed madman Mauhamed, murder everyone that wont bend to there demon whorship of Islam is the act of spineless leadership, and satanists destroying America.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • old goat

        It’s also way past time for conservatives to stop apologizing for Obama’s incompetence! The mid east was on fire, ignited by our anointed one’s bragging about killing the moon god’s messenger, Osama. Obama and his scavengers were fanning the flames with every tool they had… especially their mad dog media!

        Al-Q was invited to strike – vengeance upon an unprotected ambassador planted in the middle of a rats nest with a neon sign “ambassador is here” hanging over it… on a Muslim holy day (911 – Al-Q’s day of victory over the great satan). Without trap or intent to harm rats, the cheese was consummated… embassy burned & more American lives sacrificed to the holy moon god’s cause (just “because”).

        With that celebration in full frenzy… our anointed leader & his idiots flooded the world wide airwaves with news that an American had desecrated their moon god; and what was an uprising grew and grew, as our leader fanned the fires. Remember – Nero fiddled as Rome burned. BO fiddled with the news & half the world burned for weeks… harder & harde, until BO out played Nero & qualifies for “best ever”!

        It’s not incompetence. It’s fine tuned & brilliantly executed treason designed to throw the world into satanic chaos! WAKE – UP!

      • eddie47d

        Maybe the Old Goat is the one fanning the flames for it sure sounds like it! All this didn’t happen overnight so who really fanned the flames Old Goat? Want to go back to the overthrow of the Iranian government in 1953? Now that really gave the Iranians a reason to love us or was it a reason to hate us? Maybe the billions of dollars Reagan gave to Saddam in military hardware? How did that work out? Maybe the lack of effort in solving the Palestinian statehood issue ? That has enraged the Arab world for at least 4 decades and started wars? How about G Bush and the Iraq war for oil? Where’s the stability and where’s the oil? We lost on both counts. I could bring up Obama/Libya or Reagan/Lebanon or even Arab dictators but I think you get the picture in why the Middle east never changes and is always in turmoil. Since you were around when our Military Industrial Complex went into full swing why didn’t you stop it back then? Didn’t you hear the warning shots being fired with that danger or were those earlier wars a source of interventionist pride to you?

      • DaveH

        They have you guys right where they want you.
        And the Government keeps growing Bigger, and Bigger, and Bigger.

      • old goat

        10-5 Eddie’s ode
        let’s see here… so many “Eddie” opinions and excuses… poor little rag-heads, everybody picking on them, cantankerous camels, shortages of Horney goats, no shoes, no teeth, can’t read, kissing so many royal butts they automatically bend over drop the drawers, instinctive “mooners” – no wonder they line up for suicide missions – life’s a bitch when sleeping with a tent full of people & goats that have never taken a bath!

        If we could get our Muslim leader to stop stopping drilling in the USA, we wouldn’t have to put up with your royalty, their monopoly or your highnesses $5 to $6 trillion four year senseless debt.

        If you can find the US stats on crude oil production & ditto for imports, you might figure out we import almost exactly 2/3 of the combined total!!!! (It’s the stuff we should be drilling, drilling, & drilling for.) If you stop looking at the moon long enough to check out US resource availability, you might discover we have more than enough & therefore have no reason to import oil and even less reason to ever set foot in their land of camel dung & sand burrs! By the same token, when their monopoly implodes, & competition drives oil prices to $20/bbl… (P.S. hate to ruffle your feathers, but God gave it to the US, not Obama, Bushes, or the moon) We’ll have all the wealth & they’ll have no money to buy food. What’ll happen when the sheiks run out of money, big rings, Bentleys, and anything worth kissing a butt over? Without butts to kiss & nothing to moon, they’ll self destruct! The terror & killing will end!

        Seeing as Obama is the only thing preventing us from being energy independent… looks like he too is self destructing & his progressives will disappear with him. Lots of traction in BO’s claim, that Romney will cut $5 trillion taxes. BO’s gotta go!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/haywood.jablomie.771 Haywood Jablomie

        Commenter Robert Smith seems to think that Obama personally tracked down Osama bin Laden and killed him. ALL he did was approve the operation. Somehow that one decision just doesn’t trump Obama’s “Apologize for America” world tours, or his blatantly LYING to the American people for two weeks after the Libya embassy attack and murders in a lame attempt to keep his other lie alive that al Qaeda had been decimated and was no longer a threat..

    • Sheryn

      Its a very stupid article, Obama had nothing to do with it. Who is the one that lies ??? That attack was planned because they were afraid murderous Romney would be president and start more wars.

      • momo

        The loony bin you escaped from is looking for you.

      • GiveMeLiberty

        Sheryn, too much kool-aid for you….back away from the punch bowl. I’m shocked so many among us follow blindly, with so much trust in the criminals who pretend to be our leaders. Your right though, “Obama had NOTHING to do with it”…..but when you step back and stop drinking kool-aid, it’s very obvious his doing NOTHING had everything to do with it!

      • vicki

        Hey. Give Sheryn a break. At least liberals aren’t blaming Bush anymore. Means they might be trainable.

      • Rosemary

        The more you lefties “plant” false attacks and lies, the more your credibility is diminished. The Democratic Party has been hijacked and is now being run as a cult. As an American I find your party and your communistic agenda very disturbing and anti-American.

        • Deerinwater

          “The Democratic Party has been hijacked and is now being run as a cult. As an American I find your party and your communistic agenda very disturbing and anti-American.”

          IT Seems that we have the cat calling the kettle black. ~ the DNC has not been hyjacked .

          But the GOP has ~ by Dixiecrats and Globalist and special interests with wagon loads of loot to spread around.

          But thanks for the humor.

      • Patriot1776

        Obama had nothing to do with it? I suppose they all thought he was impressive campaigning around the U.S. bragging on having murdered bin Laden. Maybe they thought he was cool (like the MSM) because he used the latest technology and trinkets to have drones slaughter other muslim leaders. Maybe they thought it was awesome, the way he appologizes for everything and shows no strength or courage. Maybe his “American” followers should have listened to Clinton and not inhaled.

      • SJJolly

        Sheryn: I’d say that you are half right — Obama’s policies had nothing to do with the attack. Libya, like most all countries in the Middle East, is a roiling stew of causes and armed groups, many of which have no love for America. Maybe the group that attacked our embassy buildings were affiliated with al-Qaeda, maybe not. What does the American radical right propose who do about it — bomb Libya flat, **then** investigate who is responsible? Station a company or two of US Marines at every US embassy, world wide? (Which would tie down a big portion of the Corps!). Unquestionably support every tin-horn dictator, no matter how unsavory his domestic politices, as long as he kept a lid on all anti-USA public expression? (Wasn’t that the US policies with Chang Ki-shek in China, the Shah in Iran, and Batista in Cuba?)

      • Palin16

        Barrack Hussein Obummer did not kill bin Laden. Someone else made that happen.

      • http://personalliberty.com Guy

        Are you joking or just plain challenged. That remark was the dumbest thing i’ve ever heard. maybe you should try to read if you can and you will learn something.

      • http://personalliberty.com Guy

        Wow you have really been misled and i hope that that you take your meds and get yuorself together before election because any pres that bows to islamic kings and says sorry for them blowing us up, come on Sheryn grow up and pklease get your facts straight so next time you do not look so st**id.

      • http://www.facebook.com/haywood.jablomie.771 Haywood Jablomie

        Let me guess: you’re NOT a rocket scientist.

        But that’s OK, the leftwing propaganda machine has been working overtime to brainwash the shallow, the simple-minded, and the gullible against Romney. You can’t be blamed for being a victim.

    • John

      Yes, it is a good one, Chip! I would add the thought that a significant part of Islam blames us for everything that has happened for the worst, in their warped world view, during the past 14 centuries. I was struck by how a modern airliner can take you from Europe to the 7th Century in about four and a half hours when I was flying around the middle east a few decades ago. it is a sad fact that so much of the world produces so little.

      • SJJolly

        John: No need to fly four and a half hours to find warped world views. Just read four and a half minutes of Personal Liberty postings!

    • cpa

      Great job Chip – a well done article. Thank you for calling it like it is.

      Just a thought for many of the comments here – it’s interesting that we so quickly devolve into a Republican Democrat debate. I would think we could all find common ground to unite the United States of America against the ones doing the attacking on our embassies and our citizens. Why wouldn’t we all be coming together to stand against Islam and those who want to murder, destroy, bomb, rape, etc anything that moves that does not worship Muhammad? (And often times even if they do worship Muhammad).

      I agree we have our own problems on both sides of the political aisle. But shouldn’t an attack on our embassy and citizens unit us against anyone (no matter who they are or why) doing the attacking? Just a thought.

      • Liberty Lover

        Exactly right! Shouldn’t all Americans, regardless of political party, be outraged that pleas for help from our embassy in Libya were rejected by DC, and that the resultant tragedy was explained away by despicable lies?

      • TML

        cpa says “Why wouldn’t we all be coming together to stand against Islam…”

        We need to stand together in the realization that we should not intervene in the foreign affairs of other countries due to the blow back that renders itself in the form of new enemies.

        cpa says “But shouldn’t an attack on our embassy and citizens unit us against anyone (no matter who they are or why) doing the attacking?”

        Unite us to do what? War with the people we like to think we just liberated?

        Liberty Lover says, “Exactly right! Shouldn’t all Americans, regardless of political party, be outraged that pleas for help from our embassy in Libya were rejected by DC, and that the resultant tragedy was explained away by despicable lies?”

        Although I don’t think it was explained away by “despicable lies”, I am outraged at the stupidity of not arming or removing those people from the consulate, knowing the condition of the country, after helping rebels overthrow their sovereign. A sovereign who, more than likely, would not have let an attack like that happened or go unpunished.

        • cpa

          TML “Unite us to do what? War with the people we like to think we just liberated?”

          Why do you think I am advocating war?

          My point was – someone attacks us as a nation. And I see us all turning and fighting amongst ourselves and arguing with each other about which political party did more to create the problem (this is pointless – they both have). But neither political party attacked and burned down US sovereign land / property (our embassy), which is an act of war against the USA, nor raped and murdered our citizens and ambassador.

          I believe we (as human beings and people) should stand together united against the animal behavior that is out of control over there and elsewhere through the world when people (anyone) acts out and breaks the law to harm, murder, rape other people. For whatever our government may have done or not done – none of it makes this behavior OK, excusable, or justifiable. Any more than me going out and doing the same thing as a reaction to what the muslims did to someone else would make it OK for me to do either.

          Is it really that hard for us to come to agreement on that?

      • TML

        cpa says “Why do you think I am advocating war?”

        Well if you’re not, then great… there’s been many people I’ve talked to that were advocating war, so that’s why I asked, so I don’t make the assumption.

        cpa says “My point was – someone attacks us as a nation. And I see us all turning and fighting amongst ourselves and arguing with each other about which political party did more to create the problem (this is pointless – they both have). But neither political party attacked and burned down US sovereign land / property (our embassy),”

        I can absolutely agree with that. Genuine discussion and debate on the matter is good… but I can’t stand the two labels pointing at each other like little children saying ‘you did it’ not ‘you did it’.

        cpa says “which is an act of war against the USA”

        I suppose you could look at it as an act of war, but by whom? And what do we do about it? Actually I cant think of any war that ever broke out over an embassy attack, even when the United States “accidently” bombed a Chinese consulate killing several people in 1999.

        Personally I see this as a hideous act by rogue criminals, and a gross display of incompetence, rather than an act of war by a county or abstract religious group.

        cpa says “I believe we (as human beings and people) should stand together united against the animal behavior that is out of control over there and elsewhere through the world when people (anyone) acts out and breaks the law to harm, murder, rape other people.”

        That’s pretty much all we can do is voice our outrage over the crime, maybe conduct our own protests.

        cpa says “For whatever our government may have done or not done – none of it makes this behavior OK, excusable, or justifiable.”

        True and for me it’s more about not wanting my country to make another mistake that will make the problem that much worse.

        • cpa

          I agree with you TML (and that may not often happen between us!)

          The way I see it, I don’t think the President of Libya ordered this attack. In fact, he seems more forthcoming on facts and helpfulness than our own government. I do not hold “Libya” responsible I hold criminals responsible. Now, Libya does have a duty to protect embassies, and they should do a better job at that. But by the way, our own government has a duty to protect its citizens as well – and they were not able to stop 9/11 in NY either.

          What I would like to see is agreement that criminal acts were done… by INDIVIDUALS. I would like to see our representatives in USA government along with a solidified voice from its citizens call for the criminals to be found and prosecuted (rather than make speeches about videos and turn it into something about protecting the sensibilities of Muslims and attempting to impose Sharia law on US citizens instead of prosecuting actual crime taking place done by said Muslims). This should not be hard – many of them videod and took pictures of themselves partaking in the crime and put it on the Internet. We likely would not get every individual involved – but should be able to get enough to make an example in prosecuting the crime. An example needs to be made that this type of behavior will not be tolerated by the USA or any other government for these acts not to continue across the globe with immunity.

          The request should be made to the Libyan government to find and prosecute or produce to us those responsible. This is the test for the Libyan government. Will they go after their own citizens, find, and produce them and prosecute or hand them over to us? Or will they “have trouble” finding them and quietly sweep it under the rug – giving us strong words of support out of one side of their mouth while they protect and hide those who did it out of the other. If the later is the case, then the Libyan government becomes complicit with the acts done. So let the Libyan government decide which side they are on.

          Under Sharia Law it is punishable by death to murder and to rape (with 3 witnesses) and for sodomy (with or without consent). The only exception is if it was done in an act of jihad – then it is all ok. So by these standards, those who were guilty either 1) committed a crime punishable by death (in which case I am fine with Libya prosecuting their own), or 2) it was an act of war (jihad) and then these individuals would not be punished.

          If we get to the place where the government is not punishing these individuals because they rule it was Jihad and then OK (and worse if through investigation and more data we find they were in fact somehow behind what happened) – then we do have a government complicit in declaring war on the USA and at that point we can start talking about defending ourselves with war. But as for war – I consider that sometimes necessary but always as a last resort. I don’t think Obama should have sent us into the war in Libya in the first place – I think we had no business there.

          But before jumping there, let’s give the Libyan government a chance to pick their side. Does the government want to declare war and condone jihad? Or do they want to govern as a civilized society and turn over those who do?

          I am satisfied taking the individuals who did it for justice due instead of an entire nation and losing thousands of our own in a war.

      • DaveH

        Do you apply those same standards to our Government, cpa? Should the Federal Government declare war on a state when the state Government doesn’t bring a murderer to justice?
        What happens when the US military guns down their citizens from a far away helicopter or a gunship? What happens when we are butting into other countries’ business and killing people without a trial, oftentimes totally innocent people?
        Like this senseless slaughter:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0
        This isn’t a football game, cpa. It’s real life. And killing is killing whether it’s done under the auspices of “War” or not. The only excuse for killing another human being is self-defense.

        • cpa

          No.

          There is a lot of senseless horrible violence out there. Most of it has nothing to do with nations declaring war on one another. It is a sad truth that violence and bad people exist in every country we have. War between nations (such as the USA declaring a war on Libya in this case) should not then be a result of violence among individuals.

          Here’s what is different about Libya and why the comment about whether they choose to back jihad against the USA (which I do not believe they are doing at this point):
          1) It was an attack on our embassy – this is considered sovereign land of the USA. It is our representation in another country. Storming it, burning it down, and taking it over is an act of war against the USA. It should be considered the same as if they had done this in Washington DC and how we would respond.
          2) Attacking Chris Stephens was not a personal issue against Chris Stephens or against an unfortunate individual who happened to be in the wrong place wrong time. Chris Stephens was targeted specifically because of his role there representing the government of the USA.

          These two factors are what make a difference in whether Libya (as their new government there propped up under Obama) is going to choose to align itself with those committing these crimes (and advocating jihad against the USA and others) or not with those who did this. And why our Government response as a nation matters.

          But the point I was making was that we should NOT declare war in this case (because my belief is that so far it does not appear the actual government was behind this attack). But rather work with Libya to deal with the individuals involved – rather than a war between the countries.

          I value our military lives. There is a reason we have them. Their value should never be squandered or used senselessly but always after great consideration and as last resort. But they should not be used as “baby sitters” or “police” and they should not be sent in at all unless it is an actual war that is necessary to protect AMERICA and that we intend to win. Democracy and propping up foreign governments should never use the lives of our valuable service men and women. And the results of Iraq and Afghanistan where Bush has gotten us involved and that of Egypt and Libya where Obama has gotten us involved while continuing in the prior 2 countries to forward the Muslim Brotherhood there has done nothing in the best interest of the USA and has cost us thousands of US military lives (more under Obama than under Bush by the way and Obama has had less than half the time and should be on the way out… but that a different storey).

          And your comment about a football game – I have no idea how that relates at all.

        • cpa

          DaveH – also why I advocated having Libya prosecute their own first. (They’ll have a harsher punishment than the USA anyway if they actually prosecute rather than our system of just turning people loose – who one who attacked Stephens by the way was a recent releasee of ours).

          And I do not think the USA should start entering other countries and killing innocent people.

          I’m not sure you actually read anything posted before posting your own arguments.

      • DaveH

        A sobering video (or at least should be):
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6hp8HMstkE&feature=related

      • cpa

        And as for the USA Federal government to declare war on USA State governments – no that is just an absurd thing to advocate.

        Until this administration I had not seen anything like all the lawsuits etc the Federal gov is launching on the states and now back and forth. It is absurd and should stop immediately. Our Fed and State governments should be in harmony not against one another. This does not belong in our court systems let alone in some sort of military battle of war. Not to mention this is wasting huge amounts of taxpayer dollars to pay for different groups of our governments to sue one another.

    • yochanan heimeyer

      Thank you for the opportunity to express our 1st ammendment rights. we have very bright and brave women and men risking their lives and we need to hold “ourselves ” accountible of how we spend our blood-bought liberties, especially those who represent us,i.e.
      Representatives. But when the President uses his right of ‘executive order’ privileges, does he realize he is bypassing the very citizens who voted them to represent us. He should be providing leadership,.bring both parties to gether as Romney did in Dem.led Mass.
      Who is the leader? Lead by example as demonstrated!

      Let’s go back to the (not Bush) Reagan era that got us out of the mess Carter left us with!!

    • TML

      The article is far from excellent, IMO, and even somewhat intellectually dishonest.

      It was believed to be the video that sparked it, because the ‘protesters’ said that’s what it was about. Even Iran’s demonstrations (whom have no American Embassy) were said to be against such video. Indeed, SOME may have only been using it as justification for their actions, trying to rally other Muslims to the streets, even if their cause was different than those genuinely protesting the video.

      Chip Wood says, “But if the fact this was a terrorist attack is now “obvious” and “self-evident,” let me ask you: Why did top officials in the Obama Administration, including Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, deliberately mislead the American people for the first two weeks after it happened?”

      This is called a complex question fallacy. If it is ‘now’ obvious, when it wasn’t obvious before then you could not reasonably conclude in your question that it was deliberately misleading. As I just pointed out above, the truth isn’t black and white on this issue, and the facts take time to gather and decipher. Although, it makes little difference in the actions we should take now.

      Still the only things which makes it ‘appear’ to be a premeditated attack are, as you pointed out, only two coincidental factors… namely the date, and the weapons used – and honestly, the weapons aren’t that telling since after arming rebels in the overthrow of Gaddafi, they are surely easy to acquire in the current state of the country.

      There is indeed a certain spontaneity of the protests, regardless of the date, since it’s not reasonable to conclude that all the protests in various countries across the globe were some collectively timed plan to which no one happened to even get a whiff .

      Still there is no doubt that ‘they’ have been taught to hate the United States, and call us the Great Satan (a name coined first by Iran during the Iraq/Iran war when the United States was arming Saddam with chemical weapons, while also arming Iran secretly through the Iran Contra scandal)… is it any wonder that they hate us? And the ironic thing is, the United States is responsible for ‘teaching them to hate us’ through our constant interventions in their internal affairs.

      Chip Wood says, “History teaches us over and over again that weakness only invites more aggression.”

      Really? Over and over again? Please give me some examples in History in which such lesson is clearly and objectively learned?

      What history does teach us over and over again is that imperialist ideas and policing the world always yields unintended consequences, creates enemies, and is the true action that invites aggression.

      Exactly how would you project strength? Invade of bomb Libya some more? Further military actions and invasions to catch another boogeyman… chasing nomads and bandits to the ends of the earth? That would only make the problem worse, so it seems that the true weakness is in the inability (or unwillingness) to learn THAT lesson. Sometimes it takes more strength to admit your errors, than it does to defend them.

      Obama’s actions, or lack thereof, to either arm or remove the consulate was the failure.

      At this point, using a sledge hammer to swat wasps on a glass boat is a very bad idea. You don’t project strength by making war with a country and its people for the actions of a few extreme criminals.

      The criminals which carried out the murders should now be brought to justice under the rule of law, not war.

    • Kay

      Win, lose or draw, Obama must be held accountable for all the needless deaths and anti-American, unconstitutional actions on his watch. There is entirely too much at stake to just let him walk away or get away with such crimes. He’s knows too much about national security and I do not trust him to keep any secret. He will continue to try and destroy America any way he can, so congress had better do the job we elected them to do. I’m still in a state of shock that Washington has let Obama get away with the many crimes he’s committed. Of course, the left will scream racism, but the rest of America is screaming traitor, so arrest him and let 15% of the population riot. This cannot go unpunished of be ignored.

    • Bay0Wulf

      Rob Smith … I guess YOU didn’t get the memo …

      BO had NOTHING to do with the action that took out Osama. In fact, he repeatedly stopped actions against him.

      FINALLY it came about that we once again had “actionable intelligence” as to where he was and Our Military Leaders and … Hilary R. Clinton (who I despise) decided to “Take Action and Make the Call”.

      BO was NOT apprised of this action until it was to late for him to have ANY input. They interrupted his golf game to let him know it was going down. He hurried back to the White House for some reason (a possible photo op? a chance to redeem himself?) and was able to get a seat in the corner to watch the action occur.

      YES Rob … I GOT the MEMO … Osama IS DEAD … but Obama had NOTHING to do with it.

      Thank GOD he was (as usual) derelict in his duty and out of the office playing golf!!!!

  • Harold Olsen

    Yes, as the article says, it used to be that our government could be depended upon to defend our people and its policies. Usually, when Republicans, and escpecially conservatives, are in charge, it does happen. It’s mainly when liberals and Democrats are in charge that, rather than defend us, our governent blames us for what happens. The left leads in the “Blame America First” movement. They couldn’t and wouldn’t defend this country if their lives depended on it. It’s a measure of just how much the left hates this country.

    • KG

      Umm…. what Republican are you talking about? The LAST war that we actually won was run by Democrats. Lets see, the last Republican to win a war for America….Abraham Lincoln. Oh, wait, he’s no good cause he was infringing on the rights of Southern “gentlemen”

      You guys are losers. The only Republican i will ever give any credence to is Eisenhower. But, the ironic thing was he predicted the “modern” Republican party in his famous farewell speech. The famous “military-industrial complex” has been true since Reagan started to outspend the Soviets.

      Face it, Republicans are good at lying about their military prowess. Sorta like the codpieces that were worn by royalty. All d@#k and no balls.

      • ArkansasRebel

        In regard to the article, the concern is about the defense of American citizens abroad, NOT war. And you would be wrong about a Republican not defending Americans rights. Libya had a plane of American citizens shot down & President Reagan launched an attack on Libya & Khadafi and even though he had previously been repeatedly rattling his sabre it shut him up. We did not hear anymore from him until the rebellion which resulted in his ouster and death.

        Unlike our present president (little p) Reagan had the nerve & wisdom to “carry a big stick” when it was called for. Obama did not even have the nerve to actually give the order to attack Bin Lauden’s compound. The order had to be given by Leon Panetta.

      • Paul Wells

        ArkansasRebel,
        Don’t even bother with KG. No grounding in reality, HUGE axe to grind with conservatives, and like his own self description….All d@#k and no balls. You couldn’t pry a coherent thought out of him if you used a crowbar.

      • Grammy

        KG, isn’t it funny, then, that our military people love to have Republicans in power and detests every Democrat president we have had in my lifetime. This is why they are trying to disenfranchise military voters in Wisconsin by mailing out ballots late and refusing to extend the deadline for their return-because they almost always vote Republican.

      • braindeadus

        you are one of the braindead americans

      • Peter

        I am not American and neither do I reside in America. But I can tell you that America is no longer the America I once knew and respect. America kept allowing the weak to push it around. We foreigners do not have the same kind of thinking that you Americans have. We don’t care about people who hates us. In fact, we will respond in kind if our enemies attack us. America’s enemies only respect one language, force. It is very sad to see that it does not exist with the current administration. It is sad because America will continue to be besieged and many Americans will continue to die as a result. It is sad because America has become a land of weak, feminist and gay led leaders. You have no room for God and moral issues. The end result will be your downfall.

      • eddie47d

        Now run along Grammy and keep singing Onward Christian Soldiers since you act so concerned. Its the Republicans who are attempting to keep citizens from voting. They are the ones setting the new voting rules . No early voting,no late ballots and so forth so nice try. You can thank your Governor Walker for tightening up those rules.Democrats have shown great respect for our returning soldiers also so don’t be laying that attempted guilt trip on them . The Republican politicians and Corporates in Wisconsin have done a great job of laying off workers even in VP Ryan’s hometown of Janesville. You really think returning servicemen will get an even break? I think by now they have figured out what Gov Walker has been up to and should be voting Democrat.

      • Dan

        So KG, Your feeble assessment,is that republicans are militarily weak. You are either a man that is totally unaware of anything happening in the world today. Or you are willing to watch our Nation be destroyed to defend your failing Obama, and his minions called Liberal Dimmocrats as in Dimm witted. The entire middle east has came apart in revolution against the USA fueled by your Obama’s praise of the Arab spring. Iran is preparing for Nueclear attacks on Israel and the USA. With their threats before their preperation’s, And your lame brain choise of a leader, has been to stupid to assert any strength to deter their ability to carry out their threats. You are like so many who ignore his Responces to the Fort Hood Murderous Attack, our Embassy attacks Nuclear threats, He is a LIAR, and the intire Democrat Liberal lieing “RATS” are standing behind him while America is beeing defamed and “DISGRACED”

      • eddie47d

        Peter (Foreigner) must be an anti-woman anti-gay Muslim or maybe an Israeli who demands that America be dragged into another war. American don’t have to worry about dying if they would just stay out of foreign countries. We don’t need these foreign nations dragging us down with so little appreciation. All they want is for us to sacrifice for them and then they turn around and trade with China. Either that or they demand a yearly payment to keep them quiet. Respect has to be a two way street and neither side is doing a very good job so can you comprehend that?

      • eddie47d

        Sounds like Dan is another one who wants perpetual wars for the Republicans dug us very deep into the Middle East. How soon you forget. You claim you want freedom and democracy for the Arab world yet you spent most of our nations treasures in aggravating the Middle East with G Bush as President. You do get credit for H Bush who put America’s best foot forward but then it once again went downhill from there. The “new and improved” Iraq War turned out to be a bust and a deepening quagmire. No gold star for Republicans on that fiasco. If you wanted democracy for these countries so bad (or was it their oil) then you will just have to put up with the Arab Springs that are popping up all over. There is always consequences for earlier actions and Obama is stuck with a lot of cleaning up from those mis-adventures. If you are a true patriotic American you’d be pitching in to help solve the growing crises in the Middle East instead of sitting back and gloating about the many problems you helped create.

      • Pete0097

        Oh, and the dems are so good at keeping us out of war. Didn’t the way that Truman allowed both Korean and Vietnam to be split up inviting war by both sides wanting to re-unite. If he had let one be communist and one be democratic, BOTH wars would have been avoided and we would not have the rogue north Koreans threatening Japan and the US with nuclear bombs. Once again, short sighted dems not looking down the road at the consequences of their negioations. The war to liberate Kuwait was started and ended by a Republican, with FULL UN agreement. We will be at war with al Quaida until they are all obliterated and their families don’t want revenge for something that happened 1000 years ago. That will continue pointlessly under both parties.

      • Peter

        Eddie47g, wrong, wrong, wrong! I love your country but it pisses me off to see it being dragged down the drain by indecisive and weak leaders. I am grateful to America for its intervention in WW2 and which I would have not been born if the US had not contained the Japanese onslaught. I do not hate women but their role should not be dominiring over men. Women have a role in society which is real love and respect for their spousers and men should respect their women to the extent they should be willing to die for them. Gays well they need help, not encouragement to continue their decadent lifestyle. Muslim, I am not. In fact this aggressive religion led by Iran should be contained before real damage is done. Let’s get back to the main issues. America has to face up to realities in countries where they are despised. You cannot buy love! Look at the end results in Eygpt and Libya. These countries are now in the hands of the radical Muslim brotherhood, and they hate America.

      • DaveH

        Paul says — “No grounding in reality, HUGE axe to grind with conservatives”.
        I love how you Neocon Progressives call yourselves Conservatives. NOT.

      • eddie47d

        I wasn’t defending the Democrats but only waking up Dan in his slanderous attacks against the Democrats. As if only they start wars and the Republicans are innocent lambs. As you agreed both parties are patsies for conflict.

      • http://Yahoo JD

        Reagens brillant moves, including out spending the Soviets, “as you put it” was what brought them down. Duh! GOOD THING

      • momo

        eddie47d says: “. Its the Republicans who are attempting to keep citizens from voting. They are the ones setting the new voting rules .”

        It appears your hero Obama is not far behind.
        http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-angers-military-groups-with-lawsuit-against-ohio-early-voting-law/article/2504015

      • KG

        I’m not as worried about the middle east as I am about the middle class.
        This election isn’t about Obama, it’s about your Momma!

        And Rachel Maddow is still hotter than your sister!

    • Warrior

      Yea but, the gubmint sent the FBI over there to find out what happened. Really? And what jurisdiction does the FBI have in Libya? None. Do tell. What do you think they’ll find? Well, they’ll bring their findings back and report back to eric with a memo. Eric, of course, won’t read it because there are millions of memos that cross his desk each day.

      Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country. Everyone must do his fair share, fair shot, get shot! These “progressive hacks” are dispicable people.

    • Dan

      Harold Olsen, The truly scary thing is that their lives do depend on it. But the blind rage of liberals cause them to destroy every thing that is good and decent. Especially if it is labelled as Christian. Some of them even claim to be Christians while they demand all of the UNGODLY laws such as Homosexual rights. Baby murders, removal of Gods Laws, Prevention of childrens Prayers in school, So really how much blinder can they become. They Call Good Evil, and they call Evil Good. They are the people spoken of fulfilling the prophecy of the days.

      • Larry K.

        those are the people we need to get rid of.

      • DaveH

        I will be much relieved when the day comes that Christians actually follow their religion.

      • TomP

        DaveH,

        I don’t think you are aware of the wheat/tares prophecy that Jesus pronounced. He said not take the tares out before the harvest. They will grow together. God knows who is His. btw: I know many Christians who walk & talk the same. Look around.

      • DaveH

        I get lazy sometimes and just don’t bother to qualify every word I speak. But of course there are Christians who follow their religion — just not very many.
        I’m talking about those who avert their gaze when it comes to Government theft, and those who avert their gaze when it comes to murdering people in other countries who have in no way attacked the US. And those who try to punish gays for their lifestyle choices (as repugnant as they may be). And those who try to punish drug users (sometimes to the death) even though they are hurting nobody but themselves. Jesus taught tolerance.

    • truesoy

      Harold..
      Lets see

      George Bush, republican, conservative president. Republicnan conservative administration that was sleeping at ‘the wheel’ on 9-11, 2001. The two tallest buildings in the U.S. and 3000 plus lives lost….
      President Obama has kept us safe, and he also took out bin Laden and many other terrorists..
      Rest my case!.

      Sincerely,
      Truesoy

    • David

      That is total BS! The so called conservatives are just as bad on the other side reaping the monetary harvest on the lives of our young men and women. That is what ALL politicians do. Let me lead we will remove our people and money from all these countries and then bomb the life out of all of them. That is the only way they will be stopped. We all need to stop blaming everyone and take the bull by the horns and destroy the culprits and we can start by rounding all the muslims up and ship them back to the muslim countries that most of them came from and cut off ALL financial aid and let them burn and loot their own businesses. But the people here won’t do that they would rather blame someone. When
      Bush was in office everyone blamed him for 911 and the resulting crash of our economy.
      Let’s stop the blaming and start some real action. Change out the incumbents, liberals and conservatives both and start over in an atmosphere of cooperation! Will this happen NO because its easier to whine and blame than do real work to change the situation. WAKE UP AMERICAN!! Your morning coffee is burning!

      • DaveH

        Yikes!

  • vietnamvet1971

    There are Lies then there are Dam Lies!

    • eddie47d

      Those on the right are desperately seeking their own excuses. You are totally correct in saying” there are lies and then there are damn lies” The video does matter no matter what they say. It didn’t start the attacks in Benghazi for that was preplanned. Every other incident in the Arab world made that video their main theme. That has been in all news reports and in every protest out there. This weak mocking of Allah was the spark that took over the rest of the Arab/Muslim world. To say differently is to have your head in the sand. Beyond that lets get to the real meat of the situation. Even deeper than the insults of their God is the obvious fact of Occupation of their lands by foreign troops. You wouldn’t like it and they don’t like it. They look at Americans as occupiers holding them down and not as liberators lifting them up. Kuwait may be an exception to that and the new leadership in Libya. Yet as has been shown with that Benghazi attack some don’t like American occupation any more than they liked Qaddafi. The only thing we are now doing is stirring up the forces of nationalism so look back in history and see how that works out. Nationalists can keep stirring the pot for decades and quite often they win. Occupation breeds resentment and that in turn breeds protests and guerrilla warfare. We also reap what we sow which is being the Occupation forces!

      • old goat

        Who fanned the fire that set the mid-east n fire? BO and his noise makers!

        Who bragged forever about killing Osama – hero of the moon people? OBAMA and his idiot followers!

        Who will the the moon beamers fry at the stake first? non-believers (almost all progressives), gobblers, & thieves.

      • old goat

        PS: the moon people have been killing one another or centuries – they don’t require agitation, they’re programmed to plunder & kill Its a religious thing

      • mr_bad_example

        you’re a really great guy, not many people volunteer to be “brain donors”, most brain donors seem to be democRATs. they lack common sense and demonstrate it with everything they post. WTG eddie!

      • eddie47d

        Wow! Three lunatic replies in a row . Obviously you two guys farmed out your brains (thinking caps) many “moons” ago . Old Goat you have my reply above at 9:58 so read it and get a life.

      • FreedomFighter

        Islam’s Greatest Invention

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XpVJAX0Yp0

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

  • Liberty Lover

    For an Alinsky Democrat who believes that ends justify means, a serviceable lie will always be preferred to an inconvenient truth. I’m hoping this particular lie continues to blow up in his face and proves a determining factor in November’s elections.

  • http://personalliberty.com myopinion

    Someone needs to inform these people who vote for and put in office Liberal Elitests, that they will be at the bottom of the heap when this mess implodes…Quit drinking the Jim Jones kool-aid of this administration,,,,for the younger ones Google Jim Jones

  • Corkey

    What would Gary Allen say, Chip?

  • Ted

    Don’t worry, Chip, I’ve got it. The country is is going to heqq in a handbasket, and its all the president’s fault.

  • JeffK

    Can we say Japanese internment? Can we say stopping Jews from coming in when some were fleeing Germany? Oh yes only Republican…..

    • http://yahoo Larry

      Ha ha ha, Thanks for getting me up to speed. I had always thought FDR and Harry Truman were democrats. The things you just blamed on the repubs happened during the 40s under the democrat presidents. Now I have a liberal edumacation, thak you so much.

  • Ted Gager

    All three branches of our government are inept and careless to the point of obsurdity. They break their oath of office as a rule and not an acception or by accident. It seems they go out of their way to do it these days. We have the executive branch making it’s own laws and regulations without passed legislation. We have the legislative branch voting for bills that they don’t read and won’t sign without being bribed to do so. And we have a judicial branch that changes written legislation to fit our constitution instead of applying our constitution to the legislation to see if that legislation is constitutional.
    The tree is badly deseased and it needs to be cut down and the stump pulled….

    • Ted

      Don’t take yourself so seriously, Ted. This website is all about politics as a spectator sport. It is a recreation, a sport, a time waster. And it doesn’t matter in the long term whether you root for the red team or the blue team. When you are a fan, it doesn’t matter whether you know the game or not, just whether you cheer at the right time, and your cheering has absolutely no effect on the outcome of the game.

      So lighten up and watch and enjoy the game!

      • DaveH

        So don’t waste our time, Ted.

      • Vicki

        Some of us are here because we not only know that the pen (pixel these days :) ) is mightier than the sword but WHY it is.

  • Smitty

    Somewhere I read that Michelle Malkin is referring to Obama as “the empty podium”. Well put, Michelle. Obama has brought this country down simply by doing nothing. The only thing Obama is good at, is lying with a straight face so that people who don’t know any different will believe him. He’s a good ‘actor’. (fake) This cruise ship needs to be turned around right now (USA). There’s an iceberg dead ahead.

    • Paul Wells

      As we said about him in 2008…he is the original “Lyin King” with apologies to Disney.

    • eddie47d

      You should worry about Malkin being a lying troublemaker for at least two decades. I doubt if the damage (lies) she has inflicted will ever be healed. If Obama lies then what difference is there if the Michelle Malkin’s lies even worse. Malkin is extremely good at acting and trolling for attention. I see she did a good job of reeling you in.

      • Paul Wells

        Gee, eddie…by your rationale, if you are a child molester and only molest 3 or 4 children, that’s not so bad, because so n so over there molested 150! What a liberal idiot you are!

      • eddie47d

        Since Malkin lies each and everyday and has for that time period wouldn’t you agree that she is a serial liar. Possibly in the many thousands of times. By your rational Paul you love serial liars and should be put away!

      • DaveH

        Please grace us with your considerable knowledge, Eddie, and tell us what lies Michelle has told.

      • eddie47d

        This article is on Libya not Malkin.Although I’m sure she’ll have plenty to say on this subject and in defense of Romney of coarse. Malkin did attacks on Wisconsin workers but what right winger didn’t. She spread falsehoods about right to work laws especially saying union members were forced to join. That’s not true and that issue was settled in 1963 when NLRB & GM took it to the Supreme Court. She also lied about illegal immigrants saying they can’t be deported if they commit a crime. I have plenty more of her lies but there are other fish to fry and I’m sure she will be brought up again within a more appropriate topic.

      • DaveH

        I asked you for specific instances of her lies, Eddie, and instead I got more of your conjecture.
        Just one example:
        Eddie says — “She spread falsehoods about right to work laws especially saying union members were forced to join”.
        Union Shop:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_shop
        “Under the National Labor Relations Act (NLRA), as amended by the Taft-Hartley Act, a union may require that employees either join the union or pay the equivalent of union dues”.

  • http://www.cindynel.co.za peter

    Well as a matter of fact I have never seen that ‘ video ‘ and have no wish to either. It is time for the leaders to face reality, stop hiding behind ‘ cartoons ‘ and false heroes and deal with the horrendous ‘ religious fanatics ‘ who claim the right of judge and executioner upon all who do not agree with their idiotic beliefs. If they want to hit me as well, they may get in touch by email and we can arrange an interview. Oh [expletive deleted], I forgot, they would rather kill my wife and child instead – much easier. They had better come ready for a fight. Where I come from we take out at least 100 to 1. I guess I am just sick and tired of the bull[expletive deleted] and the stupidity of these……………. ( people ?).

  • braindeadus

    We if we had any balls we should have bomb Benghazi to dust after our ambassador was killed.

    • Larry K.

      as long as obummer is in the white house this country will be destroyed by terrorists and obummer will not do a dam* thing about it because he wants this country destroyed and if all these obummer lovers can’t realize what he’s doing they will be murdered along with the rest of us, you can tell by the way obummer apologizes to our enemys.

      • BeckyQ

        You are exactly right, Larry K! Couldn’t have said it better myself!

  • Carl

    Chip,

    Thanks again for telling the truth and calling out the lying,opportunistic,hypocritical liberals.

    I really don’t know why these people are even in this country, if you hate it so much that you will do anything and say anything to tear it down and divide its fine people then maybe you need to go somewhere else and put that crap on somebody else!

    Start from scratch and have things your way and with your lies and see how long that society last!

    Maybe you would be happy bashing your own people and save us the trouble of dealing with you S.O.B.’s.

    PUT YOUR HEART IN AMERICA OR GET YOUR ASSES OUT!

    • BeckyQ

      WAY TO GO CARL!!!

    • http://Yahoo Ann

      AMEN to that!!!!

  • Karen

    The only thing the obama administration does with any proficiency is lying about anything that doesn’t reflect well on them with the American people.

  • bct

    I think the truth needs to come out and those responsible for the cover-up
    be held accountable. Susan rice., Hillary clinton, barack obama please
    step forward.

  • Michael B

    KG is an idiot… but most flaming liberals are. Peter made a true statement when he said, “America’s enemies only respect one language, force!” A former radical Muslim said, “The only way radical Muslims will succumb, is with the sword to their pathetic throats!” They don’t negotiate… period! This is not the country I knew growing up. There was a time when the United States would respond with force. This administration only knows deceit and they pull the wool over the eyes of the ignorant. I hope many who voted for this president grow a brain and vote for someone who loves and will defend this country. The only democrat president I ever liked was John F. Kennedy… and he would probably be a Republican today, because he would be disgusted with the agenda of the democrats.

    • DaveH

      “How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don’t think” — Hitler.

  • Peter 10-nov-1775

    So , is the halfrican doubling down on the “story”? He would’t snow the truth if there wasn’t something in there for him.

  • cadguy

    Lately, when I read articles like this, but mostly when I read the comments, I just want to scream out loud; I want to run to the window and yell, I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it any more!
    It’s like I’m reading about guys bantering about ballgame scores, or better yet,, arguing whether the guys’ foot was on the line or not on that game winning catch, whether it was a good call, or whether the particular ump has a bias toward or against players that transferred from a particular school in the fall or spring, and what kind of socks he was wearing at the time, and if his jock strap might have caused a mis-judgment …
    Do you get the picture? useless chat!
    Do you guys get the real picture?
    The conversations revolve around those evil “extremist” murderous jihadists, as it was put.
    Has anyone actually stopped the rage for one second and understand WHY they want to kill us?
    How about devastating any country at will, by false flag excuse mostly, in order to gain control of the resources of that country.

    Picture this:
    Bombs land nearby, blowing up several prominent businesses, and some houses, and say oh, a small amount of “collateral” damage and deaths.
    Then, in a town nearby you, think of one near you, oh, maybe 20-30 miles away, the russians, or the chinese, or the martians for that matter, build a gigantic military base, outfit it with the absolutely latest weaponry, station hundreds if not thousands of troops there.
    Then, they make routine “insurgent” searches of local businesses, homes etc. by knocking the door down first, sometimes shooting first, and asking questions last.
    Keep in mind, this is happening right in your own neighborhood!
    What would you do? Ask them kindly to stay? Hell no! you would want them DEAD!
    -YOU- are now the “insurgent” in their eyes! Now, are you a murderous jihadist?

    The military industrial complex had an absolute addiction to power and control, and americans sit around and discuss the details of how this or that action is justified.
    Ask yourself this honestly, WHO attacked us and where?
    I’m sick to death of people saying “we” are justified in mass murder, when we are the invading army in THEIR land!

    • Paul Wells

      I don’t know where to begin, cadguy. Well, let’s start with the Coptic Christians in Egypt. They’ve had their churches bombed, their families killed (Men, Women AND Children) by these poor, poor mistreated jihadists for nothing other than BEING CHRISTIAN! Really, it’s people like you that make me want to scream. I’m not going to deny that we’ve been involved in a lot of stuff in a lot of countries where we didn’t belong. But in case you hadn’t noticed (and I’m sure you didn’t, because you were screaming out your window), Muslims want to KILL us. It says so by their child molester goat herder of a prophet. Give non-believers 30 days to convert (under force of death), if they don’t, behead them. Good God, it’s people like YOU who defend them that make me freakin’ sick! What about the U.K.? They renounced all forms of imperialism, yet Muslims have taken over public thoroughfares on Fridays so they can pray. They march in the street with slogans like “Europe, your 9/11 is coming!”. What the hell, man! Two wrongs surely don’t make a right, but you sure make it sound like they do!

      Come off the crazy train and really SEE what is happening in the world, and you’ll know who the true enemies are. Guess what, they aren’t preaching freedom, either!

      • DaveH

        I thought cadguy’s comment was pretty thoughtful, Paul.
        Yours not so much.

      • Paul Wells

        DaveH,
        I don’t care whether it’s all that “thoughtful” which is a pretty subjective term, anyway. I care about the truth. Although there is truth in what cadguy said, there is also truth in what I said. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Murder in the name of Allah (or more appropriately Islam) is still murder. Some facts are just inconvenient.

      • eddie47d

        Killing and mayhem by American intruders in foreign countries is still murder by any other name. Nowhere did Cadguy defend the Muslims so that was a false assertion on your part and the truth be tossed aside.

      • DaveH

        So is murder in the name of Christ still just murder, Paul, whether it’s done by individuals or Governments.

      • Paul Wells

        You know DaveH…I’m certainly not a word for word Biblical scholar, not by a long shot, but I have read the Bible front to back at least 3 times. I never saw anywhere in that Bible, New Testament that Jesus ever said to kill anyone! In fact, he preached quite the opposite. But, I would suppose if you were a Christian in a Muslim country, and someone comes at you with a gun or a sword in a threatening way, you might start thinking about grabbing something to bash his brains out. I don’t know what the Bible says about that. But yes, Murder is Murder, no matter in whose name it’s done!

      • Deerinwater

        David is not “faith affiliated” Paul, his question was rhetorical in nature directed primarily at self labeled Christians.

      • deerinwater

        Why he failed to employ a question mark is mere happenstance while the sentence was structured as a question.

      • eddie47d

        Paul ought to know then that the Old Testament is filled with killing and revenge . Jesus in the New Testament also said many things that rattle Conservative cages. Charity to all,welcome the stranger,feed the poor,be a peacemaker and so forth. Instead so many Conservatives loath the poor and encourage the war makers. That can be attested to from several comments right here.

      • Vicki

        Edie47d writes:
        “Jesus in the New Testament also said many things that rattle Conservative cages. Charity to all,welcome the stranger,feed the poor,be a peacemaker and so forth.”

        Indeed Jesus did say these things. Jesus did NOT say that you should take the fearsome power of government and FORCE people to feed YOUR pet charity etc.

      • DaveH

        It wasn’t a question, Deer.
        Can either of you point to anything in my comment that wasn’t true?

      • DaveH

        You guys need to take a good English course so you can learn to read.
        I didn’t say Christ said to murder anybody (if he even really existed). To paraphrase, I said people commit murder in the “name of Christ”.

      • DaveH
      • cadguy

        Paul,
        You missed my point mostly.
        I am in no way defending their wished!
        I agree that the muslims want to kill us. SO WHAT!
        If we weren’t there, they couldn’t!
        One point is if they are here (on our actual sovereign soil) killing americans by the thousands, I’m now going to become and “insurgent”, wouldn’t you?
        My book teaches love and kindness, but also teaches self defense
        Oh, that’s right, you’d just roll over. Not me.
        How many mass killings have been done in the US by muslims?
        Do you have those stats? I didn’t think so, probably because there are none.
        Lets see, we are in their county, they are killing a few of us. The american forces are killing hundreds of thousands of “them”
        The whole point I was trying to make, is if we weren’t in their country bombing the hell out of them, kicking in doors in the middle of the night and dragging them out into the street for being “insurgents”, then they wouldn’t want to kill us so badly.
        Yes the Quran tells them to behead people that don’t convert, but how the hell from two oceans away can they tell that?
        Having the desire to do it, and the means to do it are two different things entirely.
        If our country were defended properly (borders, perimeters, etc.) what do think they would do, swim over here? take a raft? If 10% of the foreign war machine money were spent on actual DEFENSE of this country, no one could touch a single hair on anyones’ head in this country!
        Get our troops home and properly defend this country! Let the muslims deal with their own country in their own way!
        I’m sick to death of all the hypocrites with the “don’t tread on me” attitude, but when someone else proclaims that same right, “OH that can’t be,that’s just not right”, etc.

    • Laurie from New York

      I wish your comment could be printed on the front page of local newspapers. People truly are missing the point. You have hit the nail on the head: The military-industrial complex (and all their buddies in big pharma, mainstream medicine, MSM, banksters, etc) are ORCHESTRATING these false flags and using them to forward their agenda, The media deception is a tool to lead ignorant americans by thier nose rings to swabble with each other on insignificant details but inevitably support the war-mongering agenda….and pay for it! You speak the truth, but only a handful are listening.

    • Kay Cleveland

      I think the thing for you to do…is to move to the Middle East…and take Obama with you. These people have been fighting since before Christ…and they will be fighting when Christ returns. They believe in Mohammed, and Sharia Law, and Islam….and hate Americans…and always have…but they love the money that has been pumped to them. I say cut them off…and make them stay in their own country. But to take up for them…BOO to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Xavier

    Why do you bother discussing anything with a dumbass lib is what I would like to know?

  • Deerinwater

    Chip says ; “Used to be, our government could be counted on to defend our people and our policies — with force, if necessary. Sadly, this is not the case anymore. Ever since he took office, Barack Obama’s policy has been one of apology and accommodation. No wonder these murderous extremists believe they can attack us with impunity.”

    Chip that is just not true ~ I wished that it was and know you do too ~ but it’s not.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

    I find it interesting that a few days before this deadly unwarranted attack on our embassy S of S Clinton make the statement that when global via AP. that US international politics was not dictated from Jerusalem.

    Myself, and I would think most Americans long for a peaceful solution to this stand off and hard talk between Iran & Israel, while Iran continues to tug on Superman’s cape, we might as well be writing Santa ~ it would seem.

    It will be the Bankers that make the final decision as to when Iran becomes a greater asset by being engaged in the struggles of war or to be at peace. Bankers make money with both war and peace with a preference for the latter. Iran is electing to exist in a delicate balance that could swing either way.

    The end game play of some an event is far reaching but certain ~ Iran will fall, followed by civil war that will be long and protracted with ripple effects spilling over the globe.

  • Oldshooter

    I was appalled at the lies from the WH, I was furious at the successful attack on our consulate in Benghazi, and am annoyed by all the anti-American demonstrations throughout the Muslim world (It REALLY annoys me off to see my flag burned-by anyone, anywhere, including here at home!). That said, I’m wondering EXACTLY what would those of you who say we should respond with force, have us DO now? What happened in Libya was apparently carried out by a fairly small group of radical Jihadis (probably not even primarily Libyans) and probably for the specific purpose, in addition to “getting even” and commorating 9-11, of causing us NOT to support the nascent Libyan govt, which is not particularly anti-USA or overly radical. If we drop all aid to the country, bomb the local civilians, etc., we will have played directly into their hands. The only thing I can see that would cure this kind of thing would be to have provided much better security much earlier on, not something we can do anymore “after the fact.” I personally think we should upgrade ALL our embassy and consulate security to the higher level we applied after the 1979 Iranian Embassy takeover, and we should probably make it clear that anyone (think mob member) who gains access over the wall or through the gates without being invited in, will simply be shot on arrival. In the past, in more disrupted african areas, we applied the rule (very successfully) of having Marine snipers on the roof simply shoot anyone who pointed a weapon at the embassy from the street out front. The mobs demonstrating in the street out front immediately became much more orderly, and while they still paraded and carried weapons, they stopped pointing, let alone firing, them at our embassy or personnel. I think it would be a good thing to develop a reputation for this internationally. Still what would you have us do NOW, after the successful attack on the compound in Benghazi?

  • Feargy852

    Hello Chip !! I was interested in one particular comment you made; it revolves around the concept on the differing views publicized in America as apposed to the rest of the world in general ( but primarily Europe ) . The media to a great extent is a controlled body and this is probably more evident in America than anywhere else in the world. One only has to look at who controls the American multimedia machine to understand the reasons for the one particular train of thought. The people in charge of the media are of a particular persuasion and furthermore members of a particular religious faith. This applies throughout America and can be witnessed practically in all high positions within pillar organizations throughout America i.e Government, Banking and Homeland Security but to name just a few. It is blatantly obvious the disproportionate amount of high positions held by these people within America. More importantly is who these people give their allegiance to i.e Israel. You will discover if you do a little research that the hundreds of people to whom I refer all hold duel citizenship in America and Israel. This is by no means a conspiracy theory, the evidence is there for everybody to see !! They impact on a wide range of areas that affect American lives and they are also responsible for the huge erosion of Liberty that is taking place in America. In relation to the media their sole aim is to perpetrate continuously the never ending message that the Arab is the bad guy. It is a well proven fact that if you continually give the same message over and over again then in all likelihood that message will be accepted by a majority of the masses. Fear is without doubt the most powerful tool any government can use on its own people. The created fear along with the constant media train of thought accomplishes but one thing, and that is that Americans today have been brought to the viewpoint whereby they believe that the Arab Countries are their real enemy. The Jewish lobby groups within America hold massive powers of persuasion on all issues been discussed at Senate level and it follows that they are accountable for so much of the content concerning America’s Foreign Policy issues. The media is but one avenue that they control however it is possibly the strongest tool in their arsenal. Ordinary Jews are not the problem, they in fact are as much in the dark and drowned in the same manipulation and fear as most Americans. People in America really need to start waking up and identifying the true problem within their nation. Realistically I think it is fair to say that America today is but a nation of puppets who swallow hook line and sinker every single they are told by their Administration and Media !! There is a much bigger game at play here and unfortunately Americans have allowed themselves to become but pawns in this dangerous game. History will show that such events as the attack on the Embassy in Benghazi have all the hallmarks of CIA involvement. Basically it is simply just a way of throwing fuel on the fire and maintaining the environment of Fear !! Also, a point that may interest American citizens is the fact that there never was or never has been a group called Al-Qaeda. This word originated from the CIA files and was more accurately attributed to a CIA database which held the details of all Muslim CIA operatives. Once the American Administration under Bushes watch announced its war on terrorism it made sense to give this terror a title or name, and so the word Al-Qaeda was used as a label. The truth of the matter though is that the so called war was merely all a lie, a fictitious construct by the same people I mentioned earlier. It might be a worthwhile exercise for Americans to sit back and look at the entire situation that is unfolding and ask themselves but this one important question i.e what country has everything to gain from the current events ?? There is only one country and it most certainly is Israel !!

  • DaveH

    Lies, Lies, and more Lies (by our Government). Who knows what’s really going on except a relative handful of self-serving Politicians and their Crony Capitalists.
    Read this:
    http://library.mises.org/books/John%20V%20Denson/A%20Century%20of%20War%20Lincoln,%20Wilson%20and%20Roosevelt.pdf

  • http://www.facebook.com/WizardKiller Mark Are Reynolds

    BULL! The psychopaths running the US have been stirring up the Muslims for HOW LONG? Let’s be nice and just start with the Shah of Iran. Seriously, this is the most apologetic article I’ve read in a while for the US and it’s wonderful foreign policies. If I was a Muslim I’d want every America dead too. Especially after my family had been blown up in a school yard, driving down the road, going to a wedding…well make a list. How can anyone be that ignorant? And I’m keeping my powder dry for the same reason the Muslims are using theirs. The PSYCHOPATHS need to be forced out of power by whatever means necessary.

    • DaveH
      • DaveH

        Read this next:
        http://mises.org/daily/4125

        Can we overcome that? Or, are we doomed to witness collapse before people MIGHT wake up to the wisdom of morality?

      • DaveH

        “It is not power that corrupts, it is that corrupt individuals seek power”.

      • deerinwater

        Right David! ~ and exactly why I feel that this argument to preserve and protect notions of a Republic is so misleading at times, as I see some more willing to burn down the barn to get rid of a few rats.

        It is the character of leadership that will carry over to any form of government. You can, ~~ ” call me anything, just remember to call me to dinner”.

        Notions of laying to waste and “starting all over” would only benefit current entrenched power where as most American citizens would only find themselves losing ground in this fight for personal liberties while playing the part of “useful idiots”.

        Mitt Romney is not the man for this job. ~ yet he has been selected to carry the banner while harboring false intentions.

        I wish that I could see it differently ~ I am not pleased with my choices, ~ to be crushed with a ton of rocks or a ton of feathers.

        • Gea

          Mitt Romneyis a higlhy qualified professional with combined law and MBA degree from Hravard years before Obama got there with affirmative action help. MItt Romney also has a proven record of business succes, including saving Olympics in Salt Lake City. Unlke Obama whois also a milioner (got rich writing his toll stories) Romney gives 15 of his income for charities.

          Obama is a traitor of American values and should resign and go to Saudi Arabia (to whose king he bowed) and/or his Muslims Brothers in Egypt whom he gave %1,500 millions of US taxpayers money to start their war on women and Israel.

          Obama should be impeached for his role in the gruesome rape and murder of US Ambassadoery by Muslim mobs, which showed the true face of Islam which IS at war with US, with Obama helping them win!

  • RichE

    What’s the difference between a bunch of murderous jihadists that have been taught to hate the United States and a bunch of conservatives that have been taught to hate liberals?

    • DaveH

      Or between Liberal Progressives and Neocon Progressives. It all depends on which team you mindlessly root for.
      USA! USA! USA!

    • Paul Wells

      Well RichE, I’d guess the most OBVIOUS difference to most thinking people would be: The conservatives who hate on the liberals aren’t bombing their churches, homes, factories, etc. It’s kind of more of a war of words, rather than beheadings. Yeah, that would strike me as the most obvious difference.

      • Gea

        Islam deserves as much respect as supremacist Nazi ideology does. In addition to delusional Jew hatred, Islam (in its writings of Koran and Hadity) also preomotes pedophilia, polygamy, dhimmitude, misogyny and murder for Allahu Abkar. Thus having a President who “respects” Islam and is working hard on subverting the US Constitution is very dangerous for America. People should march on Wshigton DC and demand immediate resignation of this true believer in Marxism and Islam, two ideology incompatible with US Constitution and human rights. Islam stinks, and so does BO in White house!

      • eddie47d

        You are not very rational Paul and speak without knowing the facts. The conservative KKK bombed churches and Conservative groups in America have torched Mosques in this country. What’s the difference in beheading and the rope for they are both dead. Now I doubt if you can control the hotheads on the Conservative side anymore than the governments in the Arab world can immediately stop the hollowing mobs from doing their dirty works. Remember that the vast majority of Muslims are extremely Conservative and certainly not Liberal.

        • Gea

          Muslim mobs are just following the teachings of Koran and their “final” prophet who was a pedophile, polygamist, rapist and murderere who in any decent society would be treid for his crimes and not emulated by 1.4 BILLIONS Muslims around the world.

          Islam is compatible with US Constitution and with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and unless it reforms will stay a ROOT cause of violence and terrosism around the wrold. Obama is a true believer of Islam and Marxism, supremacist ideologies which belong to a dungheap of history. They are not much different from supremacist Nasi ideology, esepecially Islam with its delusional Jew hatred and promotion of pedophila,polygamy, misogyny, dhimmitude and murder for ALlahu Akbar. Jerry Sundasky would have had a field day inSaudi Arabia, because while adult consensual homosexuality is punishable fy hanging, molseting little girls and boys is legal under sharia.

  • Bill

    This was in our local paper this morning in the Letters To The Editor column:
    I was greatly relieved to see how quickly the United States Department of State found that the attack on our consulate in Benghazi was carried out by terrorists and that it was linked to 9/11.

    All this time I was completely fooled by the images on the news. I was so certain that those men armed with RPGs, mortars and automatic weapons were just disgruntled college students protesting clips of a YouTube movie.

    It has always been my belief that college students and working people in Libya always went off to start their day with a SpongeBob lunch pail and mortar or RPG.

    I am always relieved to see how quickly and decisively our government reacts to attacks on our sovereign territory and American citizens. With Iran on the threshold of nuclear weaponry, I am — and all Americans should be — comforted that our government can identify terrorist attacks in only a matter of weeks.

    North Korea, you don’t scare me. I have the United States government standing watch over me and my family.

    • Paul Wells

      Bill,
      I don’t know where you live…but I could feel the sarcasm dripping from that LTE here in NE Kansas! LOL!

      • Bill

        Hi Paul,
        I am in a small, pro business, operating in the black city in Los Angeles County, California. You probably would think that an oddity such as that would never exist in California

      • Paul Wells

        Bill, no sir, I have to admit, I sure never would have guessed a letter like that out of the City of Angels. But thanks a million for sharing it, and have a great, and prosperous day!

      • BeckyQ

        …and here in SE Arkansas!

  • Oldleatherneck

    PLEASE! Mitt Romney, Read and use Chip Wood’s article and use ALL of his talking points in your next debate on foreign policy. You showed us you can be aggresive. Don’t wobbly on us now.

  • Marc

    And the beat goes on, yes the beat goes on

  • Gea

    The Emperor has no clothes and has no business being in a Whtehouse. Barak Hussein Obama had been living up to his middle name ever since he came into the Whitehous3e in 2009 nad is directly and indirectly responsible for rape and gruesome death of the US ambassador in Ligya. Americans should prortest in millions are demand that this demagogues and true believer in Islam and Marxism resign immediately.

    • eddie47d

      GEA you are one angry individual and lie through your teeth. Seek immediate help in overcoming your delusion of grandeur before you become the next Ted Kaczynski.

      • momo

        What was your address again eddie? I want to give it to “Ted”. ;)

      • Gea

        When a man in the White house is endangering US and Western civilication by his cavorting with Islamists and subverting US Constitution, EVERY American who respects liberty and human righgts shold march on Washigton DC and demand that he resigns.

        Obama is promoting two ideologies which history had proven to lead to poverty, miserty and tyrany: Marxism and Islam. I have a first hand experience with both and can tell you that they are totally un-american. Obama should resign and/or be tried as a traitor of American values.

  • Gea

    Oama’s administration DOES scare me because if Barak Hussein Obama manages to deceive American voters again, the US and Western civlziation are in danger from his Marxist Islamist ideology which he covers under “justice” and “respect for Islam” red herrings.

    Obama should ressign for his guit in the gruesome rape and murder of the US ambassadoer in Libya. The man is a traitor of American values and is working hard on saubverting US Constitution under the guise of “respect for Islam”. Islam deserves as much respect as supremacist Nazi ideology, with which it shares its delusional Jew hatred. In addtion, the “final” prophet of this “most perfect and peaceful religion” (As Muslims in US would like you to believe) was a pedohpile, polygamist, rapist and murderer who in any decent society would be tried as a vile criminal that he was and not taken as a “role model”.

    The true face of Islam had been visible in 9/11/2001 and in 9/11/1012. Islam MUST reform to make it compaticble with US Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights or hs no place in any society that repsects liberty and justice for ALL.

    • eddie47d

      Keep it up Ted Kaczynski! I fear fools like you more than the guy sitting in the White House. You are already unglued! I don’t know if you are just a danger to yourself or not !

  • ClintM

    This administration, along with many in the GOP skirt the truth. Whether it’s al Qaeda, the Taliban, Hamas, Hezbollah, the shadowy tenacles of the Muslim Brotherhood or the scores of other hate-filled groups belonging to this monotheistic, socio-political-economic-militaristic CULT-ure that is ISLAM! Islam is the danger, the threat…the evil we face.

    • Vicki

      ClintM writes:
      “Islam is the danger, the threat…the evil we face.”

      The evil we face is anyone who would use force on us to make us do as they wish. It matters not the color of their skin nor the cut of their clothes nor the honey in their words.

      It is by their actions we shall know them.

  • John

    I would like to mention that the day after the U.S. citizens in our embassy were murdered, Mitt Romney publicly criticised Obama for not saying a word to condemn the attacks. The news media put Obamas reaction to Romney on tevelision. The video shows Obama with a big smile on his face, NO CONCERN WHATSOEVER THAT AMERICAN CITIZENS WERE MURDERED, and laughing at Romney for criticizing him. All Obama did was condemn the video.

    • Gea

      Obama is a traitor to Ameican values and American citizens, He should be tried for treason and not allowed to run for ANYTHING in USA!

      • BeckyQ

        GEA, I agree 1000%!

  • uvuvuv

    those riots in the middle east are making obama’s religion look bad. why doesn’t he go on al zareeja and tell them to cool it, at least until november 7. or to placate everyone he could go online with photos of him bowing to cardboard cut-outs of prominent middle eastern leaders, using these in lieu of the personalities themselves due to campaign scheduling and $60,000 each hollywood fund raising bashes. good biden obama 2012.

  • http://n/a Arlen

    Truesoy, you say -

    “President Obama has kept us safe, and he also took out bin Laden and many other terrorists.”

    It wasn’t Obama who pulled the trigger on Osama B/L. It was Hillary Clinton and Leon Panetta that took decisive action while Obama was trying to decide what to do. After it was all over, they told Obama what HE could take credit for.

    And it hasn’t been Obama that has kept us safe since 9-11. George Bush was in charge when we went after the terrorists on their soil and set up the Homeland Security system with its tighter commercial airline boarding rules (TSA) that have so far prevented another 9-11 from happening.

    What Obama has done is to do irreparable damage to America’s foreign policies by apologizing to Muslim terroristic nations. He also has greatly weakened this country by decommissioning 2/3 rds of our nuclear ICBM’s and by removing our troops from Iraq before Iraq proved that they could maintain order themselves and by not deterring Iran from developing nuclear weapons, and by announcing to our enemies when we will pull out of Afghanistan, etc.

    Where have you been for the past 11 years?????? Arlen

    • Gea

      Obama is a traitor of American values and had endangered US and entire Western civlzitrion by cavorting with Islamists of Muslim Brotherhood whose stated goal if sot infiltrate America and destroy Western civliati9on from within and outside and establish the only trued religion (Islam)”. Obama should resign for his role in the gruesome murder and rape of the American ambassadoer in Libya by Muslmi mobs whom he emboldens every day.

      Obama is a dangerous demagogue who tells everbody what they want to hear and buys followers by making it easy to get on the dole and free phones with whch hookers and drug dealers can improve their busienss. Obama has no business being in any place of power in America and should leave and go to his Muslm Brothers in Egypt or his Suadi king where he can extolls Islam and Koran to his heart content.

      Obama killing Osama is customary among Muslm rivals and killing this one terrorist only created 1000 more of them. Islam ITESELF is the ROOT cause of terrorism and violence around the world, and there can be no safety and peace until ISLAM REFORMS to make it compatible with the US Constitution and the Universal Declaration of HUman Rights.

      Obama should resign before demaging US even more which he had been doing sicne January 2009.

      • eddie47d

        GEA should resign from posting any comments. Your diatribes are as dishonest as the night is black. Values? You have none and are as disturbed as any mental patient.

      • gunner689AI

        Eddie: “Night is black”; isn’t that a racist statement ? What are you trying to imply here? Shame, shame on you. You should be kicked out of the BO fanclub for making such a statement.

      • eddie47d

        Goofy Gunner; What??

      • FreedomFighter

        Idiots who voted for Obama

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_JJLLfTR8I&feature=related

        These people, like Eddie will vote for Obama again, because TV told them too.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

        • Gea

          Yesterday, I met a homeless white veteran who told me that: “If you are white, you ain’t right, If you are black, you got it Jack!”. He feels that he is not being helped because of lack of pigmentation! Today, I passed a sign “African American for Obama”. Can you immagine if Mitt Romney had a group “Whites for Mitt”? What an outcry for “racism would it be” It appears that we have now racism inreverse, where having more pigment gives you clear advantage. Obama and his wife are the products of “affirmative” actions as Obama menagerial skills clearly indicate., Obama is an extremely skillful demagogues who tells everybody what they want to hear in order to maintain his power.

          In addition he a great admiror of Islam, a supremacist ideology similar to Nazi supremacist ideology, including its delusional Jew hate which is rampant in all Muslim caoutries today, and if they could the Muslims would have no moral reservations of murdering Jews and wiping out Israel from the map of the world, as Ahmedinijad keeps threatening and may do if he gets nuclear bombs.

          Obama is a traitor of American values and should resign and not run for another term. He is responsible for a gruesome rape and death of the US ambassador in Libya by helping those Islamits get into power and by preventing US marines in Arab countries to carry live munitions to defend American lives. Shame on Obama and Democratic party that had allowed him to be a candidate even though it is clear that he is both incompetent as a manager and downright dangerous with his true belief in Islam and Marxism, both ideologies that belong on the dung heap of history, incompatible with US Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Righgs. Obama must be impeached for giving money to a terrorist organization of Muslim Brotherhood and for letting them into the White House.

      • gunner689AI

        That’s right Eddie; anytime a white uses the term “black” it’s racist, regardless of meaning. You should know that. Look it up; it’s in the PC/Liberal Handbook.

    • truesoy

      Arlen,

      You seem to know how everythingthat developed prior to taken down bin Laden. Please, can you tell us what else was going on while you were there during those meetings?, I mean, you were there, right?.
      …and could you please explain to me how we went to the ‘heartland’ of Al qaeda by invading Iraq?. This would make as much sense as invading Thailand for the Japanese bombing of Peral Harbor. But, then again, as stupid as this might sound to a normal person it would probably make sense to you.

      Sincerely,
      Truesoy

  • Mike Hazel

    Our embassy is sovern U.S. territory.We were attacked.Their goverments did nothing to protect our ambassadors.These mobs understand power.We should drop a nuclear devise where our sovern territory was…right in the laps of this murderous horde.

  • johndillinger

    It is quite obvious that Obama is a Muslim, a liar, a Marxist, and we are closing in on about a half inch from full blown communism if he gets in again. His radical buddy Holder will be nominated next and get on the supreme court, end of the second amendment..Then we will not be able to say anything about the Muslims that are pouring into our country every day, about the billions he is giving to these countries that are being taken over by the “brotherhood”. We need a leader. God has removed his protective hedge from around us, and Obama seems to be the administrator of our punishment.
    It will be far less bloody to deal with this Muslim Problem today than 10 years from now…
    Feast of our Lady of the Rosary Oct 7. Formally the feast was known as the feast of our Lady of Victory, the Battle of Lapanta. Defeat of the Muslim fleet and saved europe.

    • eddie47d

      More Christian Crusaders marching off to war. Is that what the Catholic Church teaches you I don’t remember that. Mike Hazel is plain and simple a heathen warmonger himself and Johndillenger is not far behind. Do you two pray for war when you tuck yourselves in at night? Believe it or not John the majority of Muslims living in America came here after the Gulf War and in greater numbers after the Iraq war. (“pouring in”) (Bush) Omar Abdel Rahman (first World Trade Center bombing in 1993) had lived here since the 70′s. Those who collaspe the trade center towers had been living here for awhile also. Had nothing to do with Obama but you keep blaming him for all yor troubles if it makes you feel better.

      • RichE

        Blame Obama for everything. Obama the whipping boy.

  • BudB

    Anybody notice that guys like Eddie47d or whatever must be spending their entire day hovering over this article and insulting people? Do you think you are somehow going to convince anyone to your view by insulting them with political titles and anti-religious mumbo-jumbo? So what am I, now that I’ve called you out? Moronic conservative? Dixiecrat? progressive Neocon? How about “Independent, concerned American?” Give me a break, folks: Read the article. Leave an intelligent comment and opinion. Then move on with your life. And unfortunately, every supposed “intellectual democrat” post I’ve read on this forum has been a bunch of mindless insulting and name-calling, ussually with an intended “intellectual air” to it. Well, I’m sorry, but your grandioise words and incredibly horrible attitude do nothing but seperate you from the rest of us, so go ahead and keep depicting everyone as morons while you ride your high horse. Its a really SAD way to represent your party, and definitely makes YOU look like a Nut-Job. So if you ACTUALLY WANT Obama to be re-elected, the best thing for someone like you to do, ediie47d, is shut up. Because you are making the rest of your party look like a bunch of S&*%^-talking yahoos. I guess what I’m trying to say, is that if Eddie47d represents the kind of viewpoint that the democratic party and Obama-fans support, then I want nothing to do with them. Thank you, eddie, for helping me to make up my mind. By all means, keep talking, just by opening your mouth you are turning more people conservative. I’m sure Obama appreciates your wonderful support.

    • RichE

      For the most part Eddie’s comments have substance and are to the point. Yours on the other hand is whiney.

      • BudB

        See what I mean? I haven’t even left the article yet, lol. Everybody’s just hovering for the next attack. I respectfully withdraw from the conversation gentlemen, have fun

  • chuckb

    eddie47d,
    part of what you say maybe true, yet you fail to mention that barry hired radical islamist and placed them in administrative positions in the government. apparently they are safer than conservative minded people.. i wonder if they take rug time while working? you bet they do. barry probably joins them.
    in order to defeat the terrorist we will have to clean out the barry administrastion, confiscate their rugs and send them packing.

    • Feargy852

      Im afraid Chuck you have your religions mixed up !! It is true that Obama has lots of personnel of another particular Faith in his Administration, but you will find that 99% of them are actually Jew’s not Muslims. Jews are of the Judaism faith and Muslims are of the Islamic faith. It is beyond me how you Americans can not see what is going on under your own very noses !! Jews control your media both print and visual, they control your banking system, also Homeland Security. It is they who have converted the majority of Americans into a Muslim hating race of people. In a country that pro-ports to be 90% Christian how is that the Bible is not allowed to be addressed or taught in the classrooms in American schools. How is that at Christmas time the only religious emblem allowed to be erected outside the White House now is the Jewish seven prong candlestick ? These people have America exactly where they want it and worse again they have you carrying out all these false flag attacks on other nations for their own aims. Wake up people !!!!

  • moonbeam

    BO told one hell of a lie during the debate that I found disgusting. He said “Social Security is structurally sound.” Telling LIES is first nature to him. I just can’t get over how he opens his mouth and the lies fall right out between his horse teeth and lying lips, which are ugly by the way. I wouldn’t kiss him with my own ass…well…maybe…lemmethinkaboutthat (wibblewobble)

  • MasterBlaster

    Well, folks, indeed the article is a good one; but be that as it may, the fact remains that NO ONE in the administration is being held accountable (that we know of) for the disgraceful attitude and lack of support afforded to Ambassador Stevens. But then, again, is no different than the hostage situation back in ’78 when the president then was also apologetic about America, or the Fast-n-Furious debacle. The secretary of state should be fired, and so should that moronic ambassador to the UN; and, no, the responsibility doesn’t solely fall unto the intelligence community. The mainstream media is also to be blamed, but we are the only one who can do something about that by not buying any of their products or watching any of their programing –like that joke of a news outlet MSNBC. But hope is on the way come November 6. It is up to us to fire all the incumbent bumbling, so called public officials, and send them back to Chicago or Detroit. So get out there and vote. “We pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America…” So it goes.

  • gunner689AI

    The truth is that the embassy had numerous threats of attacks and asked for beefed up security. This was denied the Ambassador and he and his small security team were murdered by islamic radicals. Since the embassies come under the pervue of the State Dept. and Hillary Clinton is Sec. of State she is directly responsible for the deaths of these American citizens. It was Hillary the Hag’s responsibility to grant this embassy the protection it requested but due to her warped sense of Political Correctness and appeasement to the muslim hoard security was denied and our people were murdered. BO was too busy playing golf to be involved so his handlers told him what to say.

    • Liberty Lover

      And from whom does Hillary get her sense of Political Correctness? The two of these incompetents should both lose their jobs this November.

      • gunner689AI

        When she had her brain washed at Welsley and hanging around with Bubbas friends.

    • Gea

      Since Hillary Clinton works for Obama, he is ALSO responsible and the buck stops on his desk and his Muslim Brothers desk, since Obama apparently left it to his Muslim Brothers for provide security for US embassies. How that worked in practice was clear in 9/11/2012. Obama should resign in shame for allowing terrorists into the white hosue whose stated long range goal is “infliltrate American and destroy Western civlzitiaon from within and from outside, and establish the only true religion (Islam) over all others”.

      Islam ITSELF is the ROOT CAUSE of terrorism and violence around the world since it is a supremacist ideology similar to supremacist Nazi ideololgy, including its delusional Jew hatered. Read Koran and Hadith and learn about bloody history of Islam and Muhamed ans see for yourself. Islam is incompatible with the US Constitution and with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and therefore has not place in any society taht respects liberty and human rights unless it REFORMS to eliminate hateful against non-Muslims teachings.

      Now CAIR is working very hard to white wash Islam and subvert US Constitution to ban free speech under the guise of “respect for Islam”. Islam desterves as much resepct as it give to others: NONE, since it calls non-Muslims “kufar” (Inferior”) and Jews are “sons of pigs and apes”. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, a forgery that had been used in Europe over 100 years ago to incite Christian masses to murder Jews, is now a best seller in Muslim countries, including a Blood LIbal (claiming that Jews use Muslim children blood for matzos for Passover), and imams and mullahs are whipping up Muslm mobs to change “death to Jews” and “death to America”. The true face of Islam IS what you see around the world while the American Muslims are working hard with Barak Hussein Obama who is living up to his middle name to subvert US Constitution to prevent truth about Islam to be known!

  • chuckb

    liberty lover, apparently you don’t remember hillary and white water, vince foster just to name a couple. this woman is as good at lying as bill clinton, these people are untouchable, regardless of what may have happened or how wrong hillary is, she will walk and could possibly be the next president in 2016. the bolsheviks will protect her, they control the senate and we have a weak kneed congress that’s scared of their shadow.

    • Liberty Lover

      Of course I do! They are both heads of criminal syndicates. Hillary lost out to the more ruthless thugs.

    • gunner689AI

      the bolshevics also control the media.

      • Deerinwater

        “liberty lover, apparently you don’t remember Hillary and white water”

        I do ~ you spent millions of tax payer dollars and came up with a hand full of empty fingers.

  • Lyndia

    Speaking of liars…Obama is in notorious liar company along with Bill and his “I did not have sex with that woman” lie to Congress, Hillary and her getting shot at, etc, JFK and his affair with M.M.,, Johnson & his Vietnam fiasco, and on an on. Guess that is why I find these people screaming Romney is such a liar so ridiculous…I don’t believe that there has been many presidents who have not done their share of lying, especially during campaigning for office. There only seems to be one that I know of who seems to be ashamed of being a US citizen and hides his proof of his past which would indicate that there is suspective reason to believe that he is NOT who he says he is!!!

    • gunner689AI

      You mean the Kenyan ? Like Bubba he is a good representitive of those people stupid enough to support them.

  • uvuvuv

    obama was not born in kenya. if he was he wudda lowered their average iq.

    • gunner689AI

      somewhere in Kenya a village is missing it’s idiot.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Contrary to myth being fabricated, Islam does not pose a threat to the West. Rather, Islamic “terrorist” organizations have been created to serve Western imperialistic objectives. These groups are intertwined with Western power through a network of secret societies. This relationship dates back to sixth century BC, and the birth of the Kabbalah, in Babylon; a plot to seek world domination through the use of guile and deception.

  • Jimbo

    Obama apologized for an obscure movie trailer that apparently appeared back in June or July, and that called the attention of the entire Muslim world to it. So now they protest.

    • Liberty Lover

      Exactly right! I’ve been making the same point. Obama, in an effort to cover his political ass, made certain that an inflammatory film seen by almost nobody would now be seen by millions, thereby increasing anti-American sentiment throughout the Arab world and increasing the risk of death to other Americans. Surely future victims of Arab savagery in retribution for a silly film won’t mind giving their lives for the sake of Obama’s re-election.

      • Rosemary
      • cpa

        Agree. And Rosemary – good article to add here for consideration.

        It is not the “new” government of Libya who is attacking the USA. It is not really even clear who is actually running Libya and whether that government has control or doesn’t. Therefore, war against “Libya” doesn’t make any sense at this time.

        However, what exactly the intent is going on with our own government does not pass the smell test.

        There is a childhood story about a King. This king had gotten himself into a problem and had ulterior motives during this battle. He ordered his military to enter into battle, and then to purposefully fall back leaving one brave soldier who was to be on the front lines exposed. This soldier was of course killed in battle – intentionally by his King to further another agenda by the king. It was wrong. And it was “murder” by the King. The King was King David and the soldier Uriah. (Story can be found 2 Samuel 11-12).

        In the story – this was over a woman.

        What is our King’s (Obama’s) motive?

        There were multiple requests for help and protection made by Stevens that were denied. Security was pulled the month before this took place. Was all this an order by our king to fall back and leave exposed and “expendable” for another cause or motive the valuable lives of those representing the USA overseas?

        • Gea

          Obama is responsible for the gruesome rape and murder of the US Ambassador, and should resign and not run for re-election. Barak Hussein OBama had been living up to his middle name ever since he came into office,pushing two ideologies with which he had been indoctrinated as a child: Islam and Marxism. Both had been proven by hstory to lead to poverty, misery and tyranny and have no place in any functional country that respects liberty and human rightts.

          OBama is a traitor of American values and should be impeached for subverting US Constitution and promoting Islam, whch is incompatible with US Constitution and with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. As a true believer Barak Hussein Obama is much more dangerous to US and Western civlization than just a regular demagogues, which he also is.

          • cpa

            My opinion on Libya has changed somewhat.

            Originally I had said on this site that I did not believe it was republicans or democrats who were burning down embassies, murdering, and raping our Ambassador.

            I still stand by not advocating war against “Libya” as they as a nation are not who attacked us. (It was Muslims who did that).

            However, after watching Congress last night and many of the unbelievable facts coming out now I am putting a large part of the blame squarely on the shoulders of Obama and the Democrats who seemed to want for this (or something dangerous) to happen, were in full knowledge, and for whatever reason did nothing to protect our Ambassador when help was requested. They sacrificed him and others for some sort of objective they had that we likely will not get to the bottom of completely for a while. But it seems clear to me they believed to accomplish their agenda they needed to put at risk American lives and did so foolishly and carelessly, or if it turns out worse – intentionally.

            I’m ready to go after Obama over this now.

          • Gea

            Obama is a traitor of American values and should resign and not be allowed to run for another term. He is a true believer in Marxism and Islam and that makes him even more dangerous than an ordinatry demagogue. He is a true promoter of Islam, an ideology incompatible with the US Constitution and is helping CAIR and other Muslim organizations in USA subvert US Constitution in order to prevent the truth about this supremacist ideology to be known to Americans.

            Islam is incompatible with either US Constitution and with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and unless it reforms it has no place in any society taht repsects liberty and human rights. In addition to supremacist ideology, similar to supremacist Nazi ideology, inclusing delusional Jew hatred, Islam also promotes pedophilia, polygamy, misogyny and murder for Allahu Akbar.

            Islamic teachings are the ROOT cause of violence and terrorism around the world, and unless Islam reforms there will be no end to Muslmis trying to destroy Western civilization as the Muslim Brotherhood of Barak Hussein OBama stated in thier long term plan: “to inflitrate America and to destroy Western civilzation from withing and from outside, and establish the only true religion (Islam) to rule over othes.” Obama has them in the White house! A traitor!

          • cpa

            I would rather see Obama and all his policies clearly rejected by the American people who do their homework and decide that this is not what we want in our country or leading it and vote that way in November.

            And yes, Islam leads only to violence and death. I don’t want it or it’s sharia law in our country, in our government, in our white house, in our courtrooms, in our cities, or governing me or my family or in the country I love.

          • Gea

            American people are pittifully ignorant ot Islamist supremacist ideology and what CAIR is doing to prevent people from learning how vile Islam and Mohamed are: incompatible with US Constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Righgts.

            A few days after US ambassador in Libya was raped and murdered by Muslim mobs, I was at an event organized by a Center for Peace and justice whre CAIR representative was claiming “islamophobia” and demanded that First amandment be modified so taht Mohamed cannot be defamed! For 2 hours nice politically correct Americans were working on subverting US constitution, because they are ignorant that Mohamed was a pedophile, polygamist, rapist and murderer that in any decent society would be tried for his crimes and not taken as a role model by 1,400 millions of Muslims around the world.

            Obama MUST be gone from any position of power since he is a very dangerous demagogues who can persuade people that black is white! All Americans should read Koran and learn about the bloody history of Islam and Mohamed to understand why we cannot allow a US president to promote Islam and violate US Constitution.

          • cpa

            I agree. I have actually read the Koran and surrounding history. (Because I didn’t want to argue ignorantly with others pushing how Islam was about peace) – that was back around 2004. BTW in case anyone wonders – Islam is NOT about peace and in fact commands death for all those not converting to Islam. And all you say is correct.

            It seems a large part of the Libya deal was a set up to push through Sharia law on the USA by making it illegal to speak out against Islam or Muhammad (which is part of Sharia Law). That is why they came out pushing that agenda even though it made zero sense to anyone taking a look. Obama went before the UN speaking to the world pushing the video angle claiming how the future should not belong to those who defame Islam or the Prophet. And setting us up to accept a loss of our constitution and loss of our free speech in favor of protecting Islam and the prophet – and bringing Sharia to America as law.

            In contrast, I believe the “future” should not belong to those who rape and murder and destroy others. This is the part where I believe all Americans should be able to stand together to say united that we want nothing to do with Islamic law and do not stand by what they preach. Violence, rape, and death should not be rewarded by giving them what they want – Sharia in America. This we all need to stand together against and say, not here, not now, not in America.

          • Liberty Lover

            It’s been postulated that perhaps the idea was for terrorists to kidnap Stevens, demand a release of the “Blind Sheik” in trade, thereby enabling Obama to be a pre-election hero by saving the ambassador while simultaneously appeasing his Muslim brothers. Seems like a stretch to me, but more plausible than any explanation coming out of DC.

          • cpa

            Very well could be Liberty. All I know is that none of the back peddling and excuse making and lying makes sense. Smells stenchy. There’s something they are not telling and trying to hide I think that much is obvious.

  • bobbyp

    Anyone with any common sense knew from the start it was a planned attack to coincide with the Twin Towers attack of 9/11/2001 & barack hussein obama, .hillary clinton. jay carney, susan rice & the msm should apologize to the man they accused that his film incited the attacks in Libya in truth the other attacks in other muslim countries was caused by these lying Un-American idiots popping off to the world that the film was the cause when they knew it wasn’t the cause & these other attacks in other muslim countries would never have happened if they hadn’t broadcast their LIES to the world that a film on YouTube was the cause. I wonder how long it took them to find the 14 minute film on You Tube to take the blame for obamas constant bragging that he killed Osama Bin Laden was the real cause of the attack. The attackers were shouting ” Obama we are all Osamas” But that is the way the democrats & obama operate it wasn’t me it was someone else.

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      Like America, the Muslim people have would be tyrants vying for power in their ranks. Some listen, some don’t. Osama bin Laden studied Sun Tzu in depth, like general MacArthur did. He felt Americans would react, not act if he, in his words, attacked the horns of Satan, the twin towers. We would react by lashing out, spending untold amounts of money and sending our armies all over the world which would cause the world to hate us and get to us every chance they got. Sun Tzu was right and Osama bin Laden was right.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.a.plett Robert A. Plett

    Why aren’t the Liberals up in arms over this continuing cover up ? And they have the nerve to say Conservatives don’t care . Ironic

  • FreedomFighter

    America’s Liberalologist

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zu6oMBANV4&feature=related

    Detailed explanation for you Robe

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • http://www.facebook.com/dan.mancuso.56 Dan Mancuso

    “They call us ‘the Great Satan’ and blame us for virtually everything that has gone wrong in the world for the past 100 years”.
    100 years ago saw the Federal Reserve, forced on us and many other policy changes under Wilson and Roosevelt, which precipitated many more changes and assaults to the Constitution. I am NOT defending that lying imposter in the White House, or those crazy zealots who call themselves Muslim. Generally coincidence is anything but…

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      “For the love of money is the root of all evil”. The own who gets the people money, or says he will for now, will win this election.

  • Hopingforbetter

    If you voted for BHO for president in 2008 to prove that you were not a racist, please vote for Romney/Ryan in 2012 to prove that you are not an idiot. Thank you. Signed a Concerned American.

  • d

    Hes not weak cant you read between the lines hes intentionally weakening the us financially and militarily, hes putting the muslim brotherhood in charge over there not an accident intenional there going to run the middle east this is the goal to create a unified arab bortherhood the worst parts of the bible

  • old hilbilly

    “Progressive” – programmed dysfunctional reasoning – disjointed, based on disassociated statements with malice and evil intent! Christians & most other religions are founded on free will of man, free thought, and individual freedom within the bounds of individual beings and their possessions. Muslims are individually bound by the Quran, which requires individual believers to convert or kill non-Muslims. It’s not passive or peaceful to non-believers or believers!

    Nations have relations and ambassadors designed to keep peace and eliminate wars. It’s easy to close an embassy and send any or all ambassadors back home… if they’re civilized. We’re dealing with Muslim-religious forms of government that by definition authorizes all believers to carry out the will of and instructions of their Quran, none of which believe, respect, or honor our non-Muslim individual citizens or government!

    So, why are we taxing our citizens and giving that money by the billions to any Muslim government? Our president was raised and brought up by Muslims. He is highly educated and steeped in Muslim religion, traditions, and practices including jihad, subversion, and world dominance. He knows what he is doing! The Muslim Brotherhood unquestionably runs Egypt and Libya with iron fists, because our president sent our military force into their revolution to convert those nations! Why have we allowed this and continue financing enemies?

    • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

      Sir, I am a devout out spoken Christian. In my professional life, I spent at least 2 months of every year from 2000 to 2006 in Arab countries. Frequently my wife accompanied me. She’s a sunday school teacher. We’ve stayed in Muslims homes and we’ve had them stay in ours. In our travel we’ve gone to Mosques and they have accompanied us in our Baptist church. Never in all those years did we feel threatened bur we have made many Muslim friends. We were there when Bush invaded the soverign country of Iraq. What your believing is the propaganda spread by the Zionist. They have manipulated American’s into believing they are our allies. America didn’t need any allies, they do, and have turned the world against America as we give our blood and money to their cause.

      • old goat

        I’m sure the Libyan Ambassador shared your feelings & would gladly vouch for what you say, except he can’t because Muslim enforcers sodomized and killed him and others. No friends to help & protect? No guns with ammo?

        God gave all free will and brains with a rule to not “mess” with other gods. God didn’t kill the ambassador or set the Arab world on fire. It’s a celebration of the moon god – the Arab spring! FORWARD as in progressive togetherness!

        • Deerinwater

          Old Goat, you are drawing lines in the sand that serve no purpose what so ever~ but when you actually do say something that has the undertones of intelligent life ~ I would gladly take you to task and put your britches on.

          I love a good scrap ~ but so far, all I hear is nothing but a noisy old muddy pig that wants to be fed.

    • Deerinwater

      “Progressive” – programmed dysfunctional reasoning – disjointed, based on disassociated statements with malice and evil intent”

      WoW! dysfunctional ? So what is the cure? ~ I suggest that maybe your stared in the mirror too long.

      I’m standing by the highway
      Suitcase by my side
      There’s no place I want to go
      I just thought I’d catch a ride

      Many people look my way
      And many pass me by
      In moments of reflection
      I wonder why

      To the thieves I am a bandit
      The mothers think I’m a son
      To the preachers I’m a sinner
      Lord I’m not the only one

      To the sad ones I’m unhappy
      To the losers I’m a fool
      To the students I’m a teacher
      With the teachers I’m in school

      To the hobos I’m imprisoned by everything I own
      To the soldier I’m just someone else who’s dying to go home
      The general sees a number, a politician’s tool
      To my friends I’m just an equal in this whirlpool

      Magic mirror won’t you tell me please
      Do I find myself in anyone I see?
      Magic mirror if we only could
      Try to see ourselves as others would

      To policeman I’m suspicious it’s in the way I look
      I’m just another character to fingerprint and book
      To the censors I’m pornography with no redeeming grace
      To the hooker I’m a customer without a face

      The sellers think I’m merchandise, they’ll have me for a song
      The left ones think I’m right,
      The right ones think I’m wrong
      And many people look my way
      And many pass me by
      And in my quiet reflection I wonder why

      Magic mirror won’t you tell me please
      Do I see myself in anyone I meet?
      Magic mirror if we only could
      Try to see ourselves as others would

      Leon Russell

      • old goat

        dear-under-water
        You’ve been underwater too long – all wet, so to say. Poke your head up, look & listen… then discern what is happening, what the religion professes to be, what is demanded of “believers” and what is being done to non-believers. The religion in it’s name is not passive!. If you like it – pick any one of many “Muslim” countries – the moon god awaits believers.

      • deerinwater

        I have no one clue what you are talking about ~ but I do believe you think that you do.

        So tell us in plain English what that is.

  • http://wildeyguns.com The Christian American

    I beg to differ. Sure the Muslim attitude toward America has intensified since Obama has taken office. Would it be difference if McCain won the election? The last “defensive” war America gas fought was the war of 1812. You can’t consider the Civil war. The war of 1898 was done offensively to get Cuba from the Spanish. Our own governments lies got us into WW1 and WW2. Korea was our first war without a declaration of war, as every war has been since then. We’re trying to manipulate the Arabs so we can gain control of their oil. We’re siding with the Zionist so their enemies have become our enemies. Christianity is hated because of “christian” America’s actions. There is no defense for our actions. They need a repentance to God and His hand to save us. “I saw the enemy and the enemy is us”.

    If thou would rule well, thou must rule for God, and to do that, thou must be ruled by Him. Those who will not be governed by God, will be ruled by tyrants…William Penn

    • deerinwater

      Right ! and it really gets complicated when people void moral compass invoke and exploit the name of the Lord for personal gains.

      Just calling yourself THE Christian American cuts no quarter or means little to me ~ I will judge you by your deeds.

      While your handle really stinks ~ your last message I found sound and exactly why our government needs to stay out of the “God Business” if we are to expect peace and love.

      There is no need to proclaim where you or your ideas come from. ~ Your ideas are to stand or fall on their own merits. This attempt to hyjack hearts and minds by dropping a name, invoking the name of Christs ~ quit simply makes me ill.

    • Gea

      Zionists and Jews chose life, while Islam promotes death and chides Jews for liking life! Islam is a supremacits ideology, similar to supremacist Nazi ideology including delusioanl Jew hatred, which Muslims would repeat in the Middle East if given a chance as Obama is giving them in Egypt by supporting Muslim Brotherhood, whose stated goal is “to infliltrate American and destroy Wesatern civlization and establish the only true religion (ISlam) to rule over others>”

      Islam is incompatible with US Constitution and the Universal declaration of HUman Righgs and has no place in any society taht respects liberty and human righgs.

      Barak Hussin Obama is a traitor of American values and has no business being in the whitehouse. The terrorists of 9/11/2001 did not shout Hail Mary, Our father, Shema Israel or OM, but Allahu Akbasr, which had become a war cry of all terrorist when commiting murders, including American born and educated Muslim, Dr. NIdal Hassan who murdered 13 of his collegues at Fort Hood while screaming Allahu Akbar.

      Islam is the ROOT cause of violence and terrorism around thw world, which will not stop until Islam REFORMS to make it compatible with teh Univesal Declaration of HUman Righgs.

    • old hillbilly

      You & the drowned dear like to babble about hating America. You can’t find your way from one dot to another – a lot like fishing on a sand dune – fishy, but no fish there!

      We don’t need their oil and would be energy independent and wallowing in wealth if your “progressive” rulers (Obama & his predecessors) weren’t on the Arabian Monopolist’s payroll! Yes, GET OUT & STAY OUT! Live a life of truth. If the Iranian nut case says he’s going to destroy us, believe & send him a bunker buster. If its the country’s decision, wipe them out. War ain’t fun – end it!

      Your babble is deception – lots written about it in the Bible. It always ends badly because we reap what we sow! What I’m saying is, keep your damn weeds out of my garden! Yes, the weeds we speak of are damned!

      • deerinwater

        It sounds like you are trying planting cotton and grow corn to me.

        You and your dot connectors would by wise to quit drinking for the same poison well that got us in this mess to begin with.

      • old goat

        Not sure what “the Christian American” likes about mid-east muslims – burning Christian churches, crucifying Christians, rape, murder, sodomy – sounds more like Moe-rabid Atta – fitting in with the enemy – — the snake isn’t a snake – it doesn’t bite – it loves you. Gosh, that sounds like common ground with BO & his lemming progressives – a transgenderized Soros puppet?

        There was an old hippie song about a woman who found a frozen snake – thawed the damn thing out – nursed it back to health – fed it – loved it & the damned thing bit her & killed her. It was a real neat song. If I could remember the name & artist I’d buy a copy! Drowned dear might be interested, too.

        This ought to bring the drowned dear back out of his swamp to blow more bubbles.

  • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

    Fighting for American freedom in the Middle-east makes about as much sense as hitting a strip club to work on your marriage. -Author unknown…

    • gunner689AI

      Our only roles in the Middle East are:
      1) to stop the expansion of islams growth beyond it’s current borders.
      2) to insure the free flow of oil. Like it or not oil is the life-blood of Western Civilization. Regardless of how decadent that has become, it needs to be maintained as long as God tolerates it’s existence. To do otherwise is to bring back the Dark Ages.

      Western Civilization must be maintained by Any means neccessary. Killing bin laden didn’t stop muslim extremeism any more that killing Hitler stopped Nazism. The only way to stop an idea, muslim extremism, is to crush it completely like a bug, or offer a better idea, Christianity, which these forces of darkness will never accept.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        I’m sure the Pope would agree with you. Those backward heretics must be brought to our way of thinking, and must accept our religion, at the point of death should they refuse. What puzzles me is, why would they not accept our ways? Consider the wonderful, life-affirming-culture that we offer them; secularism, decadence, abortion, war, usury, slavery-via-debt, hypocrisy, the destruction of family, democracy …ect What’s wrong with these people? When will they see the light, and realize we are there to help them, and that we hold in our blood-soaked hands, a bright and better future for them. Yeah, sure, we could argue that we have plenty of resources in our own back yard, and we don’t really need their oil and the rest of their resources…yeah, sure, we could point out that it is really we, the West, that wish to expend beyond our borders, and while this may be true, the international community must understand that we do this with the out-most sincerity and good-will! So why do they resist?

        Could it be be that they totally misunderstand us? Perhaps they confuse our destruction of their countries, and slaughter of their people with our desire to spread peace and generosity? And what’s most perplexing, is that they have the audacity to call us maniacal-self-serving-deranged-hypocrites! Unbelievable. This is the way they show appreciation for all that we do for them? I’m speechless…i have no more words. I think i’ll pray now!

        • Deerinwater

          Well done Jay, that was sweet. ~

      • gunner689AI

        Jay: much of what you say is correct but the die is already cast. The past is the past and can’t be changed. islam has a long history of murderous conquest as does the West. We have to face the situation as it exists today and will exist in the future. The muslim extremests are on a world wide rampage. they heavily populate western Europe and North America. Their goal is the internal destruction of Western Civilization by any means neccessary. There are 20 known terrorist training camps right here in the USA. It’s not a question of if but when. We each need to decide which side we will support when hell on earth breaks lose. To continually blame America first is traitorous. If we made a mistake it was to try and bring freedom and democracy to a primitive, murderous, tribal society.

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Kill for gain, shoot to maim
        We don’t need a reason
        The Golden Goose is on the loose
        Never out of season

        Blackened pride burns inside
        Shell of bloody treason
        Here’s my gun for a barrel of fun
        For the love of living death

        The killer’s breed or the demon’s seed
        The glamor, the fortune, the pain
        Go to war again, blood is freedom’s stain
        Don’t you pray for my soul anymore

        2 minutes to midnight
        The hands that threaten doom
        2 minutes to midnight
        To kill the unborn in the womb

        The blind men shout, ?Let the creatures out?
        Let’s show the unbelievers
        The napalm screams of human flames
        Of a prime time Belsen feast

        As the reasons for the carnage
        Cut their meat and lick the gravy
        We oil the jaws of the war machines
        And feed them with our babies

        The killer’s breed or the demon’s seed
        The glamor, the fortune, the pain
        Go to war again, blood is freedom’s stain
        Don’t you pray for my soul anymore

        2 minutes to midnight
        The hands that threaten doom
        2 minutes to midnight
        To kill the unborn in the womb

        Body bags and little rags
        Of children torn in two
        The jellied brains of those who remain
        Put the finger right on you

        As the madmen play on words
        And make us all dance to their song
        To the tune of starving millions
        To make a better kind of gun

        The killer’s breed or the demon’s seed
        The glamor, the fortune, the pain
        Go to war again, blood is freedom’s stain
        Don’t you pray for my soul anymore

        2 minutes to midnight
        The hands that threaten doom
        2 minutes to midnight
        To kill the unborn in the womb

        Midnight, all night
        Midnight is all night
        Midnight, all night
        Midnight is all night

        Lyrics written and performed by Iron Maiden!

        You can here the song here: http://www.jango.com/music/Iron+Maiden?l=0

      • http://gravatar.com/bychoosing Jay

        Here’s a better version of the song.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKnhvdlF3hw

      • gunner689AI

        Jay: I don’t know if you’ve been to war or not. I have and I’ll tell you that it’s the most horrendous thing on Earth. Unfortunately it is the innocent civilians, primarily women and children , who suffer most. Worst of all is having it visited on our homeland by savages who don’t care about their own families let alone ours. All the peace songs and love thy neighbor retoric will not prevent that from happening. When it comes down to us or them controlling the World, I’ll choose us and our survival every time. I suspect that if it ever comes to that point you will to.

  • http://maament.wordpress.com mtbearusa

    last 100 years? Islam has been at arms with the US since 1779 when the King of England stopped paying ransom to the Barbary pirates for us. Which is why we even have the Marines.

    • cpa

      Islam has been at war with everything and anything else that does not follow Islam since it began with the vengeance retaliation of Muhammad to use mercenaries to fight his personal enemies and vendettas.

      There is nothing peaceful about it and it has never existed as a peaceful society alongside anything else. It has never governed it’s people with rights, equality, or peace. It is intolerant of any differing thought or religion and handles everything with violence and death.

      There are points where it raises its head enough for us here in America to take notice such as mtbearusa’s point above and others. You will never find it aligning with peace, the furtherment of anyone other than themselves, or any kind of stable contributing society that I would ever want to live under.

      We can argue about how long ago it began to be a problem… the answer is when it began.

    • gunner689AI

      The US Marine Corp was founded in 1775.

  • Gea

    Mohamed was a pedophile polygamist, rapist and murderer who had manages to organize the likewise violent men to follow him and call it religion in the 7th century AD. When such a criminal man is adored as a role model by 1,400 millions of Muslims around the world you KNOW that Islam stinks! In adny decent society such a vile criminal would b tried for his crimes and not emulated as a role model.

    The recent terrorism around the world is caused by teachings of Islam, which has not respect or compassion of NON-Muslims of women and children. Unles Islam REFORMS it has not place in any society that respects liberty and human righgs. Barak Hussein Obama had been living up to his middle name and promoting Islam in American and helping hide its vile nature, by subverting US Constitution, under the guise of “respect for Islam”. Islam deserves as much respect as it give to others: NONE! or as much respect as Nazi ideology of delusional Jew hate….

  • Bay0Wulf

    If you want to hear some serious truth about Our Position in reference to the Middle East I suggest that you watch this: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/10/10/cbs_lara_logan_slams_obama_admin_for_pushing_major_lie_that_taliban_is_weakened.html it is 19.5 minutes of a report/speech from a CBS Journalist who has “Benn There & Done That”.

    She calls it like it is. She is not “kind”, “warm” or “compassionate” … she simply tells it like it is.

    Yup. Its her point of view but … as a journalist she has been able to hang out with both sides and has some extremely relevant things to say.

  • Kay Cleveland

    Wonderful piece Chip! With everything that has happened this past 4 years…it makes you wonder where the voters were in 2007 & 2008, when Obama was going around with his rallies and making ludicrous statements. Did they turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to anything happening then? Obama said he would “bring America to it’s knees”….”he would level the playing field between the US and the Middle East (allies he called them). His campaign slogan of Hope & Change was HITLER’s while he was devouring Germany. What has the “Jim Jones” followers gotten America into?????? God Bless America, Stand Beside Her, and Guide Her.

  • Frank

    Obama’s Benghazi that is a proper ring to it. Ring like the gold prayer ring he has worn for decades.

    When the truth comes out concerning the Libya attacks just of the few facts that they have let slip out at this point forward being Saturday, October 13 the administration said something about two separate times in August they removed protection forces. Just ask yourself a simple question for what reason a few weeks before 9/11 They may have tried to make you forget about that date. That looks like America had planned for an attack against itself. Something else they let slip out to that the first time the president Barack Hussein Obama spoke the name Benghazi he did say it was terrorist attack . Then for the next 10 days they picked up back that they started talking of it as spontaneous they took you to never Neverland They try to blame American liberties on all of the embassies all of their staffs hardship they were facing with the crowds and the looting and burning to destruction the chaos Barack Hussein Obama and all of his people tried to take you to never Neverland!!! They left an American Ambassador alone without the comfort of his family. (Three American heroes to die for no other reason than because They can.

  • http://none ron

    Sure are a lot of comments on here both good and bad but the truth about the attack can be traced straight to republican obstructionism. The following will explain how the republicans have endangered our ambassadors WorldWide:

    For fiscal 2013, the GOP-controlled House proposed spending $1.934 billion for the State Department’s Worldwide Security Protection program — well below the $2.15 billion requested by the Obama administration. House Republicans cut the administration’s request for embassy security funding by $128 million in fiscal 2011 and $331 million in fiscal 2012. (Negotiations with the Democrat-controlled Senate restored about $88 million of the administration’s request.) Last year, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned that Republicans’ proposed cuts to her department would be “detrimental to America’s national security” — a charge Republicans rejected.
    [GOP vice presidential nominee Paul] Ryan, [Rep. Darrell] Issa and other House Republicans voted for an amendment in 2009 to cut $1.2 billion from State operations, including funds for 300 more diplomatic security positions. Under Ryan’s budget, non-defense discretionary spending, which includes State Department funding, would be slashed nearly 20 percent in 2014, which would translate to more than $400 million in additional cuts to embassy security.
    It’s also important to note that the Republican appropriation in Congress gave the administration $300 million less than it asked for for the State Department, including funding for security.

    • Liberty Lover

      Utter tripe! Even the State Department has acknowledged that there were no budgetary limitations precluding adequate protection of the embassy in Benghazi. Unfortunately, Obama and his Greenies would rather spend the money on buying Chevy Volts and charging stations for various European embassies, all of which were well protected from the known sources of violence throughout the very dangerous Eurozone. Obama and Clinton deserve to be tarred and feathered for their contributions to these eminently preventable homicides.

      • Frank

        The left has dramatically picked up their game due to the Chicago connections that is the only thing the liberals can do at this point is to lie and keep lying until that lie doesn’t work anymore and they switch to a new lie. They believe if Aycock fast enough it doesn’t matter what they say as long as they can keep on talking and prevent the Republicans from responding they will win the day. That would’ve worked except America finally woke up when given the choice between freedom or dictator the American people have chosen freedom. It’s not that easy for this freedom the left have been putting into place well over 30 years our education system the Control of our children’s minds in many cases your minds. The main problem is it’s not their fault they went to school they were taught with the far left wanted them to be taught and believed the lies. Barack Hussein Obama has hundreds if not thousands of tentacles reaching out to people willing to do his bidding no matter how bloody it may get.
        America is in for the fight of her life it all depends on how much damage Barack Hussein Obama and his minions have done! In 2010 the American people spoke and gave the Republicans the House of Representatives but that’s only one branch in 2012 the American people need to give them the Senate and the presidency if not it won’t matter will be over.

    • Frank

      This is the second time at least that you’ve tried to keep this new lie alive. You apparently missed the hearings in Washington last week with this very question was answered that cutbacks had absolutely nothing to do with the staffs at embassies around the world. Ask yourself this question Ron three weeks before 9/11 not one but two protection forces were removed from Benghazi why knowing there were already two attacks against Benghazi consulate knowing that 9/11 was approaching why would America gave its people to the terrorists. They did it because it was a planned attack that Washington knew about. And Barack Hussein Obama hates America

    • old goat

      You speak as if there was a budget over the last 4 years – THERE IS NONE!!! Obumnuts has given illegalo aliens hundreds of billions of citizen benefits! He’s given millions of US jobs to illegal aliens, Free medical care, education at all levels, tax rebates, jails overloaded with aliens, etc. Obumnuts & Holder are giving voting rights to aliens, while making sure our overseas military can’t vote! Advertising free food stamps etc. in Spanish, in Mexico! $5+ trillion unsustainable debt increase in 4 years and Obumnuts & his bastard progressives are blaming Republicans for eliminating protection of our embassies! How many billions did Obama spend to fight illegal wars that empowered the very muslim brotherhood that committed those atrocities against our embassies & citizens.

      Can you spell treason? You sure can’t add or think beyond your hatred of America! The Rosenberg’s didn’t have any direct blood on their hands, but were fried for treason! We have blood on many hands and many more bear false witness to protect them!

      • Frank

        When the truth comes out concerning the Libya attacks just of the few facts that they have let slip out at this point forward being Saturday, October 13 the administration said something about two separate times in August they removed protection forces. Just ask yourself a simple question for what reason a few weeks before 9/11 They may have tried to make you forget about that date. That looks like America had planned for an attack against itself. Something else they let slip out to that the first time the president Barack Hussein Obama spoke the name Benghazi he did say it was terrorist attack . Then for the next 10 days they picked up back that they started talking of it as spontaneous they took you to never Neverland They try to blame American liberties on all of the embassies all of their staffs hardship they were facing with the crowds and the looting and burning to destruction the chaos Barack Hussein Obama and all of his people tried to take you to never Neverland!!! They left an American Ambassador alone without the comfort of his family. (Three other American heroes to die for no other reason than because They can.

  • old goat

    Wake up! Yes there are countless embassies, and millions more people in government to worry over. Yes the mid-east was on fire and out of control… because our leader threw a match in it! However it was only one embassy that was blown up and burned, wherein American lives were lost and the ambassador was demonically sodomized! It was live streamed on the internet world wide by cell phones and shortly thereafter all over the US mainstream media! There was no mob of protesters – just terrorists! It was apparently live streamed by embassy personnel. Yes, some of it carried pictures of an obviously dead ambassador paraded through the streets of Benghazi!

    According to our president and vice president, America had insulted the muslim god and their peaceful protests were hijacked by a few violent people on 9-11-(12)…the holy day muslims took the twin towers out! The attacks were an act of war. They and their stooges are lying and working to cover up and deny what happened – acts that directly protect our enemies! It’s treason! IMPEACH THEM NOW!

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