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Election Riots

September 17, 2012 by  

Election Riots
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Expect Occupy-type protests to ramp up as Election Day approaches.

Wouldn’t it be nice if there were an easy way out of elections?

Why bother running a billion-dollar campaign to have people actually vote on your policy positions when you can scare people both mentally and physically into keeping you in power?

Many tyrannies have done this throughout the years. If we look around the world today in countries like Iran, North Korea, Venezuela and Russia, we can see plenty of “questionable” elections.

One of the things I used to say a lot was “It’ll never happen here,” because I’m a patriot. I believe in America and the principles that this country was built on. But on top of being a patriot, I’m also a political scientist. Yes, I sat through a decade of college education to learn theories behind multiple forms of government and how people can be manipulated.

And when I see what has been going on in America over the past two years, my eyebrow more than raises. There have been many more efforts to thwart elections and manipulate the way we think than ever before.

Take Wisconsin, for instance. “How dare a Governor and legislature stand up against unions!” is what we heard for months. Even though Scott Walker and his Republican compatriots were elected properly by the people and had laid out their plans ahead of time, they were called every evil term in the book.

Traditionally, when a party loses an election, its members stew for a bit, comment negatively on the people who won and run against them in the next election.

But this was not to be the case in Wisconsin. It was time to change the system for the easier and more immediate way to win. This was accomplished in a very simple two-step process.

  • Step 1: Protest, protest, protest.
  • Step 2: Scare people enough to sign a petition to hold an election as soon as possible.

Mission accomplished. Or was it?

Once the protesting stopped and the elections were held, Republicans won again, which was not the plan.

Sadly for unions, it turned out that the people who voted the first time voted again the second time, allowing the same people to keep making the same decisions.

Wisconsin was only the testing ground for this year’s strategy to keep the White House.

Once those protests ended in 2011, we saw the uprising of the Occupy movement.

This movement — which was loosely called a “movement,” because most of the protesters sat on their butts in tents all day long — was designed to stir up anger and emotions from the general population and disregard the fact that the Democrats on the national level weren’t accomplishing anything.

Mission not accomplished.

Near the end of the “American Fall,” or whatever it was that they were calling it, the disorganized chaos started to get loud and nasty. We saw attacks in Seattle, but also traffic-stopping protests in major thoroughfares in New York and Washington, D.C. At the end of the day, the general population had no idea why this was happening. But that’s OK, because most of the protesters had no idea either.

Similar protests are occurring in Mexico as you read this. It’s almost too convenient that countries around the world are having similar protests with similar groups of people isn’t it?

Someone or some organization is trying to change the way the world thinks. You can believe that even though it’s quiet now, we will hear from them again when the weather gets a bit cooler.

We’ve had major protests off and on all year long, so why is it quiet now? One of the reasons may be because the people involved are training for something much bigger than before.

The Service Employees International Union on its website offered protester training and meet-ups throughout the country. I can only imagine that this is being done so that the SEIU can influence the national election in November. After all, why have people vote logically when you can scare them?

As we get closer to November and the President has less and less to stand on as far as his accomplishments go, we will need to be distracted in order to re-elect him. That is where the protests come in.

If there are riots in every major city where the majority of people vote, then there will be less of a chance that people will: A) Vote for the guy the mobs don’t like, or B) Vote at all.

See how that works? So if in November you have a couple thousand people in the streets of your hometown screaming how much they hate Mitt Romney, what are the odds that a normal person will stand his ground, make his way through the protests and vote for Romney? Slim to none.

I know from working for Republican presidential campaigns in the past that unions will stop at nothing to influence voting the day of the election. There were at least 10 people representing unions standing outside each election place — that’s right, 10 — the year that I was working in Philadelphia, to “help people vote.”

What does “help people vote” mean? Well, I like to say it’s like helping someone buy me birthday presents. You’re not going to have a choice as to what you buy me if you let me “help” you.

So you can see what’s going to happen in America the closer we get to Election Day.

There will be distracters and folks trying to stop you from thinking freely so that the people in charge can stay in charge.

Whether you believe in our system or not, you need to believe that you should vote and that every vote counts (I get tired of hearing that line myself, but I still believe it). So, if you don’t vote, you really are letting your country go in the wrong direction.

–Tim Young

Tim Young

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  • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

    “Tim Young,”

    I STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THE LAST SENTENCE OF YOUR ARTICLE – “So, if you don’t vote, you really are letting your country go in the wrong direction.”

    SO, IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU VOTE AND YOUR “GUY” LOSES “YOU CAN JUST SLING YOUR HANDS IN THE AIR AND SAY ‘It’s not fault’ THE COUNTRY WENT IN THE WRONG DIRECTION – I VOTED.”

    ANY ADULT WHO BELIEVES ON 21 JANUARY, 2013 [OR, 2017; OR, 2021;ETC.] HER/HIS LIFE WILL FALL APART BECAUSE THE WRONG PERSON IS LIVING ON Pennsylvania Avenue, SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN A “NUT-HOUSE” YEARS AGO.

    IT IS THE SOLE RESPONSIBILITY OF EACH ADULT TO ENSURE THINGS ARE GOING WELL IN LIFE. WHEN THE UTILITY COMPANY DISCONNECTS YOUR SERVICE DUE TO NON-PAYMENT, YOU CAN NOT GET ON YOUR CELL PHONE [WITH CAMERA AND INTERNET-ACCESS; Hmn, wonder where the money went?] AND SAY, “Hey, Prez, I’m in the dark; come turn my lights back on!; I voted for you!” IF YOUR ASS HAD BEEN OUT LOOKING FOR A JOB – OR, NOT “BLOWING” EVERY DIME OF YOUR PAYCHECK – YOU WOULD HAVE NO NEED FOR CANDLES AND FLASHLIGHTS.

    JEALOUSY CAUSES PEOPLE TO SPEND MONEY THEY CAN NOT AFFORD TO SPEND. POOR MONEY-MANAGEMENT IS THE SOURCE FOR MOST PROBLEMS IN ADULT LIFE. YOUR ACTIONS IN A VOTING BOOTH WILL NOT “CURE” THIS COMMON “PSYCHOSIS.”

    • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

      THIS SITE NEEDS AN “Edit” ICON; CORRECTION – “It’s not [my] fault.”

      • Harold Olsen

        Either that or people need to proof read what they have written before hitting the “Post Comment” button.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Harold Olsen,”

        I DO PROOFREAD MY COMMENTS, BUT, I AM USUALLY SMOKING AND DRINKING WHILE TYPING. THE THOUGHTS IN MY MIND MOVE FASTER, THAN MY EYES CAN READ THE WORDS.

      • AttilaTheHun

        It might help to make your point if YOU DIDN’T TYPE IN ALL CAPS.

      • mr_bad_example

        maybe if you weren’t smoking and drinking, your lips could move faster so you could read what you’re typing…

      • Old Henry

        Attila:

        That has been suggested several times. Being the thick-headed liberal that he is it, like common sense, simply bounces off.

    • Patriot1776

      One cannot sit at home on election day, tell themselves that their vote wouldn’t have mattered any way and whine about the results. The same can be said for voting for a write in candidate. It is a gracious gift from our fore fathers that allows us the opportunity to participate in our government. How we use this gift is our gift to our children and grandchildren. We can be political “couch potatoes” and watch as our freedoms are taken away and leave government dependency and servitude to the next generation, or we can stand up for our freedoms and participate in our government and make every effort to keep this great nation free.

    • MissouriSandy

      The Bilderbergs make our decisions for us. We don’t really have a choice any longer. I will vote, but I will not vote for the choices provided by the global elite, the architects of the New World Order. I am still planning on writing in Ron Paul on my ballot because regardless of what anyone thinks, Romney and Obama are one and the same. I am not throwing my vote away, my conscience will not allow me to check the box next to either of those clowns names.
      Our liberties are gone folks. They spray us every day with chemtrails, genetically modify (poison) our foods (check out Obama’s Food Czar’s relationship to Monsanto) , force vaccines on us, fill us with lethal “prescription” meds, flouridate our drinking water, send our armed forces into harms way with the pretext of protecting us from countries that can’t get anything together much less an attack on the USA. And if you think those countries attacked the US on 9/11, I challenge you to find video of a plane actually flying into and hitting the Pentagon and of course there is the issue of Building 7. Read the info on the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth website. My eyes were opened . We all need to wake up. We must!

      • http://BobLivingstone Open Parachute

        Well said MissouriSandy. Too bad there are still many who are sleep walking. Wide awake here on the eat coast.

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        Casting a write-in vote for Ron Paul, will most likely actually be a wasted vote depending on where you are voting.

        It is my understanding that in a significant portion of the country, if a candidate hasn’t filed the paperwork to be a write-in candidate, that any votes for him won’t even be tallied. That would end up being the equivalent of not even having cast a vote for that office on the ballot.

        Given the choice between Ron Paul, and Gary Johnson, I would pick Paul in a heartbeat, but Johnson will actually be on the ballot, and I don’t believe Paul will have any paperwork filed to be a write-in. In many states, the deadline for that filing has already passed.

        I understand the desire of those who still want to write in Ron Paul as a protest vote, but since it most likely won’t even be tallied, nobody is going to see his counts, in those states that will accept them.

        Your protest vote, would be better cast, by voting for Johnson this time around.

        – Smoov

      • Old Henry

        Sandy:

        Before you write in Ron Paul’s name check with an election judge to see if you can do that.

        I asked about it in 2008 and was told that unless a candidate was running a write-in candacy it would invalidate my entire ballot.

        In MO Todd Akin will need your vote to count.

        I would suggest voting for Gary Johnson as Ron Paul has made it fairly clear that he will not run on a “third party”, or anything else.

      • http://rockdog1113dothushmaildotcom.wordpress.com rocquedog

        Hate to burst your bubble but Romney and Obama, the great Imposter, have nothing in common. Romney was born into and raised in a family with super values. Obama was not. R was successful in bus. Obama was not. Romney has given millions to charity. Obama has not. The only thing that Obama has done more than Romney, is lie and deceive. Vote for Paul if you choose but know this, if somehow he were to win and become POTUS, he wouldn’t last 2 mos.! The Bilderbergs or some other evil entity would eliminate him. He’d be another Jack Kennedy. They can’t have their Fed. Res. sys. tampered with. Atleast with R, we’d have a non-Socialist in charge. Sometimes you gott’a settle for hamburger instead of steak. NOW A DAYS WE CAN’T AFFORD STEAK!!!

      • Marten The Canadian Libertarian

        Good point MissouriSandy….And in any case, trying to have conversations with People that basically live on a different, non-existant Planet, can be grating and tiring

      • nan sanders

        your vote would be better cast for Romney. Obama’s goal is to ruin the country and create a new world order. He wants to set up the United States of Islam! Romney is our only choice. Get a grip. Hold your nose and vote for Romney. He will be a lot better than you
        think! He is a business man, honest, makes good choices. Obama is an incompetent
        boob! For your country and children’s sake, vote for Romney. A vote for a write in is a wasted vote and helps Obama put a knife in our backs.

        • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

          Or, to put it more succinctly…

          Don’t vote for that Progressive again, vote for this Progressive instead! We work hard to give you a real choice between our Progressive people, and if you don’t cast your vote for one of our Progressive candidates that we’ve hand-picked for you to choose from, you’re wasting your vote!

          – Smoov

      • Realist

        Good points Sandy! I know that I will have to find a good independent candidate on the ballot because a write-in in Missouri would not be counted so I may consider Gary Johnson. Do not get the feeling that your vote will be wasted either because Over half the country is awake now and going independent may be a winner for us. The two corporate selected appointees from AIPAC are not what anyone sane wanted for their leader. Much luck on the choice you make as I am sure it will be a mature one.

      • nc

        Missouri, I have always heard that if you are not out of Missouri by age 13 ignorance will have eaten you head off!, Your paranoria is classic conservative! “If we can’t run it it can’t be right.”" I’m 77 years old and have every Constitutional right I was born with in the only country in the world I want to live in. Perfect ?No. But by comparison, Paradise!
        What amazes me is this Young feller who wrote this drivel> He sat in poly sci classes for 10 years and still says it is in the best interest of the Democrats to start election day riots in the major cities?? The major cities have voted heavily Democrat for
        decades,Why in he!! would they want to disrupt that? They need those votes to overcome the votes of the hicks in the sticks!

        He condems union workers because they stand in the streets and carry signs and shout at voters! Has he never seen the Tea Party on parade on election days?

    • Randy G

      To me, Your second paragraph was wrong, because if you voted at least you tried.

      • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

        I agree… voting is you having your say about who you want… not who you think will win, but who you WANT. So, even if you lose, you didn’t waste your time, you had your say.

        Not voting, is also having your say about who you want, too, but that say, just means “I don’t give a sh*t, whatever the rest of you decide is fine with me”, and so you give up your right to complain about who got elected, until the next election, IMHO.

        – Smoov

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Old Henry, C A R in his own way is telling anyone who objects to his Caps Lock way of writing to bugger off because he will do what he wants, etc..

    • JC

      Horton, you’re not seriously suggesting that voting and better money management will all by itself cure the country of the cancerous socialism that is stealing our rights as Americans are you? Maybe you need to look up a little and see the “Big Picture”.
      It doesn’t matter at all who we vote for anymore…our Government is owned by foreigners and corporate interests that keep herding us ever forward into global communism.
      Exercising our rights no matter what they say is the best cure for what ails America.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “JC,”

        YOU MISUNDERSTOOD MY COMMENTS. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT VOTING. I WAS TWENTY-SIX WHEN I VOTED FOR THE FIRST TIME – 1992; “H. W.” MY LIFE WILL BE THE SAME, REGARDLESS OF WHO IS PRESIDENT.

        “JC,” I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO ACCOMPLISH. I AM PROUD OF MY SUCCESSES. AS AN ATHEIST, I AM MERELY WAITING ON DEATH.

    • Bert Cundle Sr.

      WOW… Example of Scattered Concerns… IN GOT MY SAMPLE BALLOT TODAY! OFFERED IN (4 +) LANGUAGES… CITIZENS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN VOTE! MUST READ / WRITE / SPEAK ENGLISH TO BE A CITIZEN… Than worry about the Canadates!!! Brought forth from only (2) Parties, Bad & Worse!!! Can go eather way… your Vote or NOT!

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        The Voteing Problem, is Part of the “Criminal” Government! In all of its forms!
        Government is for Government! “Not the Citizens!”

      • Bert Cundle Sr.

        [ In ]~ { I } Well… it is still hard to see the keys, when it is so dark in here… with only one candle… O. K.?

  • randall

    i disagree, i think if there are riots everywhere before elections, people will come in mass to vote current administration out, not that anything will really change. who win in november?? goldmen sachs of course, the group that funds both sides.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      So you have an “enemy” called Goldman Sachs for whatever reason. They are too obvious to do much harm because everyone has their eyes on them, it is the termites eating away unseen that do the most harm.

    • JC

      You’re right Randall…(but there is more going on). Goldman Sachs has been kind enough to provide the unConstitutional Federal Reserve with chairman for a long time now. They’ve also been the major vehicle for corruption in our Government. But no matter who we vote for the entrenched bureaucracy lives on…and that is who is busy turning our nation into a compliant socialist state. We need to wipe out (shut down) whole departments and agencies and take responsibility for our own lives. And the 40+% of parasites who don’t work just might have to put down their government issued bag of cheetos, turn off their government issued flat screens and get a friggin job! :)

  • Woody

    If the Occupy movement DOES disrput traffic and access during the elections, it may be counter productive. 1) the protest ‘against’ Chick-fil-Aaa backfired horribly. 2) The protests will take place in major cities (do you really thing Occupy will go to pudunck USA – low population) to protest? So access to voting is tied up in major cities that tend to vote democrat anyway. . .

    • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

      hmm… ya know, I think that has to be the very first argument I have ever heard about OWS, that has actually nudged me in favor of them continuing to demonstrate… well done…

      – Smoov

    • alpha-lemming

      In an honest world, I’d say yes except……. I don’t think there’s any low the Machiavellin left won’t stoop to, and I think we’ve already seen a hint of a little political jiu jitsu. Whether real or not, the media gave a LOT more apparent coverage to the OWS presence in Charlotte vs. Tampa. Is this to support the illusion the left really isn’t tied to OWS (after all…. it’s real, it’s grass roots, it’s organic… quoth Bela Pelosi) and they’re against the current regime even more than the right?? “Why….. BHO’s gotta be a traditional values kinda guy….. look’t how much these rabble rousers hate him”!! Coupled with their “Crash the Party” operations and similar clandestine activities, my spidy-sense tells me IF there’s a sizable protest movement as we approach November, it’ll be framed in a “look that way” type of message.

  • Sirian

    Just a note. . . The COWS are on Wall Street today protesting and celebrating the anniversary of when they first started crying for “freebies”. Seems to kinda fit into what Tim is talking about, doesn’t it?

    • deerinwater

      No , ~ it doesn’t fit at all. Nothing about your comment make little sense other then you oppose “something”.

      • Sirian

        Idiots and kindred relatives – useful idiots, that is the “something” I oppose.

      • eddie47d

        Like Gingrich pushing America into further wars and occupation. Gingrich is nothing more than an educated hooligan looking for a fight. He has far more clout than some OWS protester in influencing worldwide events. .

      • deerinwater

        ” useful idiots, that is the “something” I oppose.”

        but useful idiots are ~ useful! So do you oppose anything useful or just certain things that preferably serve you?

  • Deerinwater

    Tim says: “I know from working for Republican presidential campaigns in the past that unions will stop at nothing to influence voting the day of the election. There were at least 10 people representing unions standing outside each election place — that’s right, 10 —”

    So Tim, at was position have you worked General elections? There are rules that are strongly enforce at the voting polls.

    “• Media and public opinion pollsters have different rules than poll watchers do.
    Clearly identified members of the news media and pollsters may be within 25 feet
    of a polling place, and may speak to voters leaving the site as long as they do not
    interrupt voting. However, voters may not be photographed, videotaped or filmed
    entering or exiting a polling place, and may not be filmed inside the polling place,
    without the voter’s permission. (EC §18541.)”

    http://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/poll_worker_training_guidelines_final_draft1.pdf

    Electioneering
    Poll workers must learn exactly what constitutes electioneering. They need to
    understand how to calculate 100 feet from a polling place, what activities are prohibited
    within that perimeter, and how to address the situation if they either observe or receive
    a report that electioneering is occurring in or near their polling place. Poll workers also
    need to be aware what types of materials are not allowed in the polling place, and how
    to remedy the situation if there is the potential for passive electioneering (e.g., a voter
    enters a polling place wearing a t-shirt or conspicuous button promoting a candidate or
    ballot measure). Instruction must also be provided on the difference between
    electioneering and exit polling (which is allowed beyond 25 feet of the polls) and how to
    handle public opinion pollsters or news media who violate these restrictions.
    (EC §18370)

    While I have not experienced any Union activity around polling places , no doubt that it happens. If you are just a bystander or running the polls, you have a police force at your disposal to enforces polling rules, you only need to bring it to their attention.

    It’s for polling staff volunteers to know when rules are being encroached on and react to them in an appropriate manner.

    Opening and closing a polling place is a big job and makes for a long day, that starts around 4:30 am and keep you running until 9 pm. To prepare for this one day, takes several weekends depending on the capacity you serve.

    Beyond 100 feet, it’s a free America and civil and criminal law applies.

  • RivahMitch

    Haven’t missed an election since 1968 when I cast my first vote while in Vietnam and I don’t intend to miss this one. That said, however, I expect voting fraud to give the Kenyan Marxist a “victory” and the few remaining ties that bind the country together to further fray or even break. When common words have different meanings to the groups presenting alternative visions of the future there is no “body politic” nor any social cohesion nor is the concept of a “loyal opposition” valid. We once had a president (not one of my favorites) who said “You cannot negotiate with someone who says “what’s mine is mine and what’s yours is negotiable”. He was correct. Be ready to answer Patrick Henrys’ famous question for yourselves.

    • deerinwater

      “Is life so dear and peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains of slavery?”

      Well Sir, Life is dear and peace is sweet and i don’t feel any more restricted or enslaved today then I did in 2008 but in fact the federal boot now on my neck is a size 9 1/2 instead of a 12.

      At least more people understand today how the fed and the wealthy bankers work together and go about screwing the people over. Understanding the true nature of our problems is the first step towards solving them.

      This battle with entrenched power is only beginning and won’t be over anytime soon.

      The national debit, is a paper debit ~ and as real as you and the bankers wish to believe it is.

      Everything and anything can appear to work ~ until it fails to.

      • RivahMitch

        “Everything and anything can appear to work ~ until it fails to.”

        You just described the socialist system you seem to prefer perfectly. The point at which it ceases to work is the point at which there’s nothing left to steal from those of us who work.

      • eddie47d

        Our Republican Attorney General is desperately trying to find voter fraud here in Colorado. He’s made many accusations but no smoking gun. even as he digs pretty deep in his attempts. The few he has found are simple clerical errors or people moving to other districts and no longer on the rolls. We’re still waiting for those thousands of illegals voters to show up on his emotional charged list. Hasn’t happened!

      • deerinwater

        “You just described the socialist system you seem to prefer perfectly.”

        I just describe every form of government and every construct of man, which includes anything you might hope to construct.

        And what is it that makes you entertain notions of what I “prefer” ? Are you attempting to get personal with me? Maybe you should kiss me if you wish to stand that close.

  • sj

    I for one have lost faith in the whole election process.( Vote every year – it never makes one iota of difference, repub. or dem. same outcome – more uncontrolled spending of my tax dollars. And the tax system. ( I’ve advocated for the fair tax for over a decade now – to no avail. got audited last year because a company contacted me that wanted to “teach me how to avoid taxes. Did not do buisness with them but still got audited because of my contact with them. And the health care system. – well we all know now is blattantly criminal.Need I go on? It occured to me recently that the ” whole system” is a pyramid scyeme with only the very top level, the all seeing eye if you will, having the power. Every one below just doing what they are told. They always have to put it in our faces too, like right on the dollar bill. IMHO the power to influence government with our votes has been stripped away along with our so called freedom. It has all been an illusion. It is time for humanity to come togeather and rise up.

    • http://www.facebook.com/WizardKiller Mark Are Reynolds

      FINALLY…someone with a BRAIN on this site.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      So if you don’t believe that voting works why are you reading the article and commenting. We wouldn’t have known or cared that another useful idiot existed.
      By the way, all mobs are good for is creating stink and chaos and being taken over by opportunists.

      • Realist

        Well, this is an open forum and if the guy wants to opine and show a little frustration who the funk are you to pounce upon him for that. If he feels that it is time for like minded people and citizens to assemble…again that is his constitutional right. The only opportunist here seems to be you.

  • boyscout

    I believe that the greatest ‘Distracters of Free Thought’ are the ad (propaganda) people behind the bombardment of media blasts. I also believe that the well funded believe this as well. After all, just look at the obscene fortunes being tossed into the present campaigns and the ever more obvious distortions offered.

    • Concerned Montanan

      A big problem is people who are clueless about what is happening in government, and don’t care. A primary goal of the local level Tea Party organizations is to educate the people, but you can’t educate anyone who doesn’t want to be bothered. I spent several hours (I have the time, and interest) and proved that our Democrat candidate for senator is lying in his TV and Internet pop-up ads. It wasn’t that hard when you find where to look. Sadly enough, most people will just believe him. Maybe a few people take heed of my letters in the area newspapers.

      • boyscout

        Montanan, I applaud your personal efforts and believe that you deserve compensation for them. Unfortunately, some small applause is about all you’ll get. But it does seem that discredit should go to both (?) sides and at all levels. So too sad. Best wishes to you and your beautiful state; I dream of a return trip one day and just one more glide through the Rockeys in quest of the elusive cutthroats.

      • uvuvuv

        that’s kinda what i say below. for example, if the monica situation broke in late october 1996 clinton wudda still been re-elected.

  • Steve M

    We are certainly at a cross road here. Do we want to except what this current adminstration (regime) is selling or do we want to stop this fundamental change America to an anti capitalist state . No paid protestor where it be a union thug or squatter or the news media keeping we from voting. Get out and vote for American freedom because it has been under attack this last four years.

    • eddie47d

      No one should be stopped from voting. The problem is that the Republicans are leading the charge in keeping voters away from the polls. Their unproven witch hunt is hurting those willing to vote and taking away their American right to do so. That is the attack you should be concerned about.

      • mr_bad_example

        yeah, right, you need a state photo ID to buy beer, board a plane, or attend a Democrat rally, but not to vote… put a cork in it eddie!

      • 45caliber

        mr:

        You particularly need an ID (if you are poor) so you can cash your welfare check. And if you are elderly (the other group the Demos insist can’t vote because of IDs) you need one to cash your SS check.

        The only group that MIGHT not have an ID are the illegals – who aren’t supposed to be allowed to vote anyway.

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        You are wrong – as usual. There is indeed one group who should be stopped from voting. Those are the people who are NOT American citizens. Only Americans are supposed to be allowed to vote. And even the LEGAL aliens are not citizens and are not supposed to vote here.

      • uvuvuv

        no one should be stopped from voting. is this your opinion or is it based on intensive scholarship by preeminent political theorists. here is my theory, there are levels of human worth and everyone should aspire to rise higher. but if you’re content to suck off the govt and blast crack all day then no, you shouldn’t go anywhere near a voting booth. because that’s how we ended up with the certifiable wack job we have now.

      • eddie47d

        Caliber: I said American voters and illegals are not American voters. There is no large or even small conspiracy by illegals to vote so put down the crack pipe.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “45caliber,”

        SIR, IN ADDITION TO AN ID, POOR PEOPLE WHO ARE CASHING WELFARE CHECKS ALSO HAVE TO PAY ABOUT FOUR PERCENT OF THE CHECK’S AMOUNT TO GET IT CASHED. PREYING ON POOR PEOPLE WITH BAD CREDIT IS BIG BUSINESS IN THIS COUNTRY. A LAW NEEDS TO BE PASSED WHICH ALLOWS POOR PEOPLE WITH BAD CREDIT TO OBTAIN SIMPLE BANK ACCOUNTS [WITHOUT CHECKING PRIVILEGES] SO THEY CAN CASH THEIR CHECKS. I HAVE BEEN IN LIQUOR STORES IN POOR NEIGHBORHOODS ON FRIDAY EVENINGS; THESE LIQUOR STORES ARE “MAKING A KILLING” OFF THE LONG LINES OF PEOPLE CASHING THEIR CHECKS.

        • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

          Alrigt, now that’s just plain stupid…

          I have never, EVER, heard of a bank, ANYWHERE, who required a credit check to open up a bank account.

          Credit checks are for getting CREDIT… which has nothing to do with having a bank account.

          All you need to open a bank account is ID, social security number, and cash or check to put into the account. THAT’S IT.

          You’re giving the bank, your money, and you can’t take out more than you put in (plus interest gains). This is a no-brainer for a bank.

          I even have a checking account with a debit card, and at the time I had such a piss-poor credit rating (and still do) that I can’t get credit, anywhere. Fine by me. Debt has never done me any favors whatsoever.

          Some of the reasons people use the check cashing services, and bars that do them for patrons, is that they don’t have an account at a bank, and a bank won’t cash someone’s check, unless it was drawn from their bank in the first place.

          They will accept people’s checks for deposit into their accounts, but the finds typically aren’t available until the check clears (tho my bank releases US$100 of each check immediately, holding the remaining balance until the check clears).

          People without any accounts anywhere, when it comes to a government check, have no other choice but to go to a check cashing service. Unless of course, you don’t take into account, how easy it is to get a bank account in the first place.

          – Smoov

      • 45caliber

        CHRISTOPHER:

        I didn’t know it was 4% but it doesn’t surprise me. I know my bank insists that anyone with an income tax check has to fill out the forms to open an account before they will cash it even if they never use the account. (They don’t charge once the paperwork is filled out.) It is simply a way to get all the info they can so they won’t accidently cash a stolen check. The local store cashes checks for 1%.

      • 45caliber

        eddie:

        You should have witnessed the local voting here in the last Presidential election. There were three times as many people voting as normal and most of the new ones were Hispanic. Everyone knew that many were illegal, voting for Oblama, but no one could ask for additional ID. I expect it to be as bad or worse this time. That’s why Texas passed the voter ID law – and it is the same reason the federal judge – who is Demo – ruled the law unfair.

      • 45caliber

        uv:

        By law, anywhere in the world where voting is legal INCLUDING THE USA it is illegal for non-citizens to vote. After all, if anyone in the country can vote, what is to stop some dictator in – perhaps – Mexico sending thousands or millions of his people to a next-door country for vacation or whatever to vote for someone he wants in office there? Just because they show up at the door doesn’t mean that anyone can vote.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “45caliber,”

        IN MEMPHIS, A CHECK-CASHING-CONVEINENCE STORE IS ON EVERY CORNER IN POOR NEIGHBORHOODS. FOR TAX-REFUND CHECKS, A FOUR-PERCENT FEE IS ASSESSED. FOR Social Security Checks, A TWO-PERCENT FEE IS ASSESSED. CONVEINENCE STORES LIKE, Ace-America Cash Express MARKET A PRE-PAID Debit- Mastercard/Visa WHICH ALLOWS PEOPLE TO DIRECTLY-DEPOSIT THEIR CHECKS FREE OF CHARGE FOR SET-UP, BUT, A FEE OF ONE DOLLAR IS ASSESSED FOR EACH CARD TRANSACTION; OR, A MONTHLY FEE OF $9.95 [$69.95, ANNUALLY] IS ASSESSED FOR THOSE WHO UTILIZE THE DEBIT CARD FREQUENTLY. FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT DIRECT-DEPOSIT, Ace CHARGES THREE DOLLARS TO LOAD FUNDS ON THE DEBIT CARD.

        THIS PRACTICE IS SIMILAR TO THOSE WHO PAY THEIR CELL-PHONE BILLS UTILIZING A “Top-Up Card” – i. e., Virgin Mobile, ETC.

      • MarathonMan

        To Eddie47…”No one should be stopped from voting’ … interesting comment.

        Only REGISTERED voters can vote. Only Citizens can register to vote.

        Non-registered voters and non-citizens cannot vote and can be legally stopped when attempting to do so.

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Smoovious Laxness,”

        COME TO MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE WITH BAD CREDIT AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET A BANK ACCOUNT. PEOPLE IN MEMPHIS ARE “BOUNCING” CHECKS LIKE BASKETBALLS. YOU MUST LIVE IN A CAUCASIAN TOWN OR CITY.

        • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

          If they’re bouncing checks, then they pretty much made their bed and need to lie in it…

          Still doesn’t stop them from having a savings account that they can still deposit checks into.

          You’re looking at the wrong problem. People making their own choices to cash their checks that way, when there are other options available to them, is a non-issue. They are free to choose what is more convenient for them, and if they find the fee worth the convenience.

          – Smoov

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Smoovious Laxness,”

        IN OUR FIRST DISCUSSION – ABOUT THE DEFINITION OF, “Grass-Roots Organization” – YOUR AVITAR “CAUGHT MY EYE.” AT THAT TIME, YOUR AVITAR WAS A PHOTOGRAPH OF A NEGRO MALE. WHENEVER I SEE A PHOTOGRAPH OF A MALE UTILIZED AS AN AVITAR, I ALWAYS PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT AVITAR.

        THEREFORE, “Smoovious Laxness,” I KNOW YOU ARE “black” – THAT IS FINE.

        “Smoovious Laxness,” BEFORE I MAKE THIS COMMENT [WHICH IS A CRITICISM], I WANT YOU TO KNOW I HAVE MADE A SIMILAR CRITICISM OF A CAUCASIAN Personal Libertarian ["Vigilant"].

        YOUR CRITICISM IS THE SAME CRITICISM YOU MADE IN THE “Is Mitt Fit” THREAD.
        WHEN I MAKE COMMENTS, I ASSUME THE PEOPLE READING THEM ARE – AT LEAST – HIGH-SCHOOL GRADUATES. THEREFORE, I HAVE NO NEED TO SPECIFICALLY SPELL-OUT EVERY WORD TO SUPPORT MY MEANING. “Smoovious Laxness,” YOU SEEM TO BE LIKE, “Vigilant” – YOU WANT EVERY LITTLE WORD SPELLED-OUT FOR YOU.

        WHEN I TOLD YOU A PERSON IN MEMPHIS WITH BAD CREDIT CAN NOT GET A BANK ACCOUNT, I WAS TALKING ABOUT AN INABILITY TO GET A-N-Y TYPE OF ACCOUNT [INCLUDING, SAVINGS AND CHECKING].

        WHEN I AM NOT SURE ABOUT AN ISSUE I DO NOT CARE ABOUT, I KEEP MY MOUTH SHUT.

        • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

          You don’t know what you’re talking about.

          None of the avatars I have _EVER_ used in the decades I’ve been online, has _EVER_ been of a person, much less a black male one.

          The only icons you should be seeing, are a triple yin-yang style emblem (tho it has a particular meaning, which has nothing to do with this topic), or a photo of a truck I used to drive.

          Everywhere else, I just go by “Smoovious”… the only reason I show up as “Smoovious Laxness” here, is because the first registration I ever did with WordPress, was on a topic that had to do with Second Life, and “Smoovious Laxness” is my identity in Second Life.

          Within Second Life, I do use a pic of myself on my profile page, but I’m not black, I’m blue.

          You’ve been absolutely wrong on every single thing you said in the message I am replying to right now, which is pretty much what I expect from someone who has no idea whatsoever about what the proper usage of a CapsLock key is.

          – Smoov

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Smoovious Laxness,”

        WHEN A PERSON IN MEMPHIS WITH BAD CREDIT IS DENIED A SAVINGS ACCOUNT AT A MEMPHIS BANK, THAT PERSON IS DENIED BECAUSE THE BANK FEARS THE PERSON WILL DEFAULT ON THE FEE ASSESSED ON THOSE WITH BAD CREDIT.

        MEMPHIS IS AN HOUR’S DRIVE [OR, LESS] FROM NINE CASINOS IN TUNICA COUNTY, MISSISSIPPI. MEMPHIS IS ABOUT A THIRTY-MINUTE DRIVE FROM A GREYHOUND-RACING AND GAMING FACILITY IN CRITTENDON COUNTY, ARKANSAS. MANY PEOPLE IN MEMPHIS GO TO THE BANK AND WITHDRAW “THEIR LAST DIME” TO TAKE TO THE CASINO. THEREFORE, THE BANK CAN NOT GET THEIR MONTHLY FEE FOR ALLOWING A PERSON WITH BAD CREDIT TO HAVE A SAVINGS ACCOUNT.

        • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

          Alright, just for the sake of argument in this message, lets assume that is actually the case. I don’t buy it, but we’ll assume that for now.

          Look at all of the other things you said.

          People withdrawing their last dime to go to the casino. Not even leaving enough in the account to cover service fees.

          People on welfare.

          People with their social security checks.

          People with their tax returns.

          These are people that have all the documentation they need to open a bank account, and Memphis is kinda a big town there, last time I drove through it, so, they gotta have at least 3 different banks with offices there, competing with each other.

          These people can get accounts, but don’t. (or can’t, following your assumption, which still makes it the person’s fault, not the bank’s)

          Yet, in an earlier post, you think there should be a law requiring banks to cash those checks for people (correct me if I am remembering that incorrectly, I don’t have that message up right now).

          You basically want a law to save people from themselves.

          No law is going to do that. People make their own choices about their own finances, and if they are so rediculously lousy with their money, that a bank doesn’t even want to risk a SAVINGS account that doesn’t involve any credit line whatsoever, who’s fault is that?

          Not the bank’s, that’s for sure.

          I was being kind to you in an earlier message, but that just doesn’t do anybody any good.

          You, sir, are a moron.

          People on welfare, etc, spending all the money they have at the casino, being so impossibly foolish with their money a bank won’t even let them have a savings account, but you blame the banks for not cashing their checks which aren’t drawn on their bank to begin with.

          What utter nonsense.

          – Smoov

      • CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

        “Smoovious Laxness,”

        ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS THIS:

        I WAS HAVING A DISCUSSION WITH, “Belinda,” ABOUT “GRASS-ROOTS ORGANIZATIONS.” YOU ENTERED THE DISCUSSION. THE O-N-L-Y REASON WHY I RESPONDED TO YOU IS BECAUSE I SAW YOUR AVITAR – A PHOTOGRAPH OF A NEGRO MALE. IF I HAD NOT SEEN THAT PHOTOGRAPH, I W-O-U-L-D N-O-T HAVE REPLIED TO YOUR COMMENTS – I DISAGREED WITH THEM.

        • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

          You’re not only a moron, but you’re also a liar.

          It didn’t happen.

          You never saw any post from me with a black man as the avatar. Ever.

          And even if you did? If that was the only reason you replied to me to share you’re stupidity with me? Then that also makes you a racist, on top of it.

          Bye now.

          – Smoov

        • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

          edit: you’re = your

    • Deerinwater

      Freedom is and has been under siege since I started paying attention to it. That goes well past the last 4 years. Reagan is the one responsible for going wholesale with the erosion of Americans economic freedom in that he offered a cure to treat a symptom. That we continued treating a symptom long after the symptom was gone is more indicative of the Federal Governments problem to over-do and over-kill then it would be Ronnie’s lacking in leadership.

      For the men and women is this country that found them selves fortunate enough to capitalize from Reagan’s new tax codes in the most productive earning years of their lives, where by blue-chip, quality employment or inheritance have done quite well for themselves. They fight today to defend status quo while status quo extended over a 35 years clearly disenfranchises Americans with disproportional “earning”.

      But however you wish to view it, ~ Freedom has never been something given but fought for daily, a fight there is no end too.

      • mr_bad_example

        Reagan cut taxes and spurred economic growth, i suppose you long for the days of Jimmy Carter, 20% interest rates and the misery index… well we have that now with Obama, so shut up and enjoy the last few months, useful idiot.

      • eddie47d

        Clinton spurred economic growth also so what is really your point?

      • Deerinwater

        “Reagan cut taxes and spurred economic growth,”

        Exactly my point Mister. It worked! for a while , the shifting of the tax burden off of potential investment funds and onto labor spurred investments and growth.

        But when investment quit investing is was time to shift the tax burden back to it original position. But this was not done and now they believe they deserve a 14% income tax plus all they can hide off shore.

        What is it that is so complicated to understand about that rather then suggest Carter had anything to do with anything????????

        Carter inherited a mess fora former GOP administration that inherited a mess from a Democrat administration., again “it’s not complicated. While I thought a lot of Nixon, he and I both were disappointed with his final days, having much good to show for much bad done.

        That the GOP Hill made a concerted effort to make Carter appear inert which was not so difficult and enjoyed much more success with it while “44 has been more problematic. Of course the GOP trough you fed from feels obliged to stage an “End Zone Dance” over any political fodder. These End Zone celebrations keeps your spirits up.

        But back to the issue that you supported with your own statement, ~~ Today’s taxing structure favors earned money not created by “LABOR”, hence labor is penalized for being labor earned dollars. This disparity in taxing that our top earners have enjoyed over the last 34 years has allowed them to became fat and lazy in the process.

        They not longer feel the need to invest! The top 5% can now just sit on their money finding little need to invest unless they can be guaranteed profit margins that they have learned to love, all but taking the “venture” out of venture capitalism.

      • MarathonMan

        Carter was inept and blew himself and his presidency out of the water within 6 months of being sworn in. Carter was indeed naive and knew nothing of, and disrespected Washington politics.
        “Mr. Sweater” offended, of all people, Tip O’Neal. Nothing happened in Washington without Tip O’Neal’s support and guess what Carter did for starters; He made sure that Tip O’Neal was given tickets to attend one of the least popular inauguration party venues and seated him in one of the least conspicuous tables. That pissed off O’Neal to no end and started a personality war between the two. O’Neal ultimately got his revenge on the Carter presidency in ways that Carter never know about
        Pierre Salinger wrote a very good book entitled “THE ABSENCE OF POWER”, which details Carter’s failed presidency. So, please do not give credit to republicans for something Carter accomplished entirely on his own.

        PS: Subsequent information indicates that Carter was as phony as a three dollar bill and screwed up the middle-east just like we are seeing today. Seems like Carter and Obama have a lot in common, don’t they?

      • Deerinwater

        “So, please do not give credit to republicans for something Carter accomplished entirely on his own.”

        If I read your post correctly, ~ you actually admit he had a lot of help at being seen inert. ~ So what are you all puffed up about? ~

        Are you attempt to “defend something” if so what? Just because you read a novel about party DNC “in fighting” does not change the facts that every DNC president comes under attack by the GOP and pundits and Carter was no exception.

        I stated that it was not difficult for them to do, ~ Did I not?

        I think maybe you need to read more books.

        Carter was as politically clumsy as Pat Robinson or that other goofy 2008 GOP “Mike” Huckabee”,~ so whats your point?

  • http://www.facebook.com/WizardKiller Mark Are Reynolds

    After spending an couple hours watching Hacking Democracy put out by Black Box Voting dot Org, I came to the conclusion that if you believe your vote does anything but make the gasoline companies richer while you use your car to drive to the voting booth you are deceiving yourself. It is a joke. The whole system needs to be started over again from scratch. We have as much say in “our” government as my dog has in my house. I look at those who vote and say to myself…THANKS FOR VOTING so that we can have more threat of violence because of your support of the psychopaths in control. Well thanks for the article to convince the lemmings to spend time putting a noose around their necks.

  • 45caliber

    As the Demos do – Vote early and often.

    • deerinwater

      a single voter can only vote once, ~ and you know that ~ so why would you say such a thing? Once you sign your John Hancock on the ballot register ~ by your name , that name ~ for all practical purposed been present and voted and can vote no more.

      • uvuvuv

        at that location

        • http://smoovious.wordpress.com Smoovious Laxness

          with that name

      • 45caliber

        deer:

        You are apparently naive and don’t listen or read much of the news.

        It is easy to vote multiple times in large cities and even in small ones if you find one that has people willing to look the other way because you vote the way they do. Simply fill out a card in each precinct to vote with a different name in each place. (Incidently, this is why we want IDs to vote. To stop this.) No ID is required to fill out the form. You have a mail box, not an address, to get the return mail. When you get the voting permits, you keep them set up according to the various precincts so you won’t get them mixed up. On voting day (and even in early voting) you go to each precinct with the appropriate card and vote. As long as no ID is required, you can vote in each and every precinct at least one time. If you go in the morning to one and then back in the afternoon you can vote twice as long as none of the people there know you personally. The workers won’t remember you.

        Now if you have to have an ID, that means you have to have another item of info in the name of the person you pretend to be – and if a picture ID is required, it makes it even more difficult. So it makes it a LOT harder to vote multiple times. Hence the idea of of requiring IDs to vote.

        ACORN did it even further. They would hire a lot of people, generally among the welfare people who don’t normally work, and bus them to each precinct. As they got off the bus each would be handed a different voting card. They might not know how you voted but they would do their best to make sure you were a fan of who they wanted in office first. Then they might have 60 people at each precinct vote for their man.

        My comment was joking but this is not a joke.

        Another reason for an ID is to stop foreigners (legal and illegal) from voting. Only American citizens are allowed to vote.

      • deerinwater

        “You are apparently naive and don’t listen or read much of the news.”

        Well, I’ve heard of this of course but just because i hear things does not make them true. Erroneous claims are made by the minute especially in politics today. You can’t believe half of what you hear anymore.

        I have volunteered to help get in the vote many time, more then five, ~ if your name is not printed on the voting register, you can;t vote, ~ people can’t just walk in and vote anywhere they want too. you can’t vote out of your Prentice that you are registered in. ~ and why I’ve ignored the claim and considered it political fodder.

        For a person to do this would take much forehand planing and much effort. And the more times that they attempted to do this increases the likelihood of being caught with each event.

        I’m not saying that it can’t be done, I’m saying it can’t be done in large numbers to effect a final outcome.

        Are you attempting to tell me this is not so? That it’s easy to do and can be done in huge numbers? If so ~ how?

  • brett

    went to the seiu web-site and did not see anything that had to do with protester training. typical propaganda b.s. i would highly recommend going on utube and watching “outfoxed: rupert murdoch’s war on journalism” from ’04. said how things have just gotten worse in 8 years. nothing wrong with a little objective thinking.

  • dcjdavis

    I can see how protesters can scare some people away from the polls altogether; but I can’t for the life of me understand how protesters can scare someone who goes to the polls into voting opposite of their choice. I mean, the protesters may suspect that a person is not going to vote the “right” way, but they can’t really know that unless the person engages with the protesters and allows them to know how they intend to vote.

    • eddie47d

      Bingo dcjdavis. A little common sense is useful instead of these “election riots” stories. Elections won’t be cancelled as many have said. There will be no Martial Law to keep people from voting as many have said. The dead zombie voters won’t be heading to the polls and voting two or three times as has been stated either. Oh yes there won’t be thousands of illegal Mexicans voting as they have said several times. Time for their foolish talk to come to an end.

      • mr_bad_example

        because the dead and illegals don’t have legitimate state photo ID’s…

      • eddie47d

        It only happened in the past to any extent in Republican dreams and wishful thinking and it won’t be any different in 2012.

    • 45caliber

      dc:

      Despite what eddie says, there is a way. They found it out up north. They had several black men at the election site, outside the door. If any white person, particularly dressed well, showed up they tried to scare them off. That way only the poor and the blacks, who were expected to vote for Oblama, were allowed to vote.

      Personally, I’d have gone home and gotten my cane. The one I have would easily work at a mace (which I’ve been trained to use as a member of the Society for Creative Anachronisms) and it is longer than the night sticks they were brandishing.

      • eddie47d

        You spin alot of yarns Caliber. Go write a book and then you can buy a hundred canes.

      • deerinwater

        Well 45, this sort of behavior that you describe is not acceptable at any polling station and for the Polling volunteers or voters to bring it to someones attention immediately . Response would be swift. Volunteers are given numbers to call.

      • 45caliber

        deer:

        What I discribed is what happened in the last election – in Philidelphia I believe. Holden reviewed it and decided that nothing wrong had been done. There was quite a stink about it at the time. So you are wrong. There was NOTHING done about it at the time and NOTHING done about it later.

        eddie:

        It is obvious that you know nothing about anything I stated. You certainly know nothing about the SCA. And the only reason you know nothing about any of it is because you were deliberately making an attempt to know nothing about any of it.

      • old geezer

        Been drinking that faux koolaide again have ya?

      • MarathonMan

        45′s got his story right; Here are the details:
        The city was Philadelphia (2008 pres. election), the black men were members of the new black panther party. The news video showed two of these thugs, one with some kind of stick or baton in his hands intimidating folks that they did not think were going to vote for Obama.
        As far as the “swift response” from the justice dept; this is what happened;
        There were complaints form voters, a suit was filed and the case assigned to a justice dept. prosecutor. Then, Eric Holder was appointed AG and ulitmately dismissed the case for ” lack of evidence”….. sure! Thereafter, Holder had his attys. directed to prosecute white on black voter fraud cases only.
        ………… Good going 45 caliber!

      • deerinwater

        “The news video showed two of these thugs, one with some kind of stick or baton in his hands intimidating folks that they did not think were going to vote for Obama.”

        Well clearly this is a “criminal act” and for the local police to address. If citizens of any township allow this sort of behavior to go unaddressed, anything is possible and it’s for them to change it at the local level.

        You can’t allow people to walk around with a club in a intimidating manner, especially anywhere near a polling place. The local law enforcement should offer an accounting, it’s not a federal matter, while it could come to that and exactly why locals should address it.

        That’s my take on it anyway.

  • uvuvuv

    this is but isn’t off topic. in msnbc it is revealed that the boy scouts have had a history of pedophiles, and the readers, instead of saying, “well it’s a good thing they don’t allow gays then, hah,” they’re saying “what hypocrites!” they’re saying, “it’s proven that gays are not pedophiles.” etc etc. this is the mindset that the repubs face, no matter how wrong they are, even if it’s proven factually, they are still right. they already know obama is a massive dud, and they might even see how his pro-muslim agenda is blowing up in our faces, and his, by the way, but they will still vote for him. but one hope, no yard signs or bumper stickers yet.

    • MarathonMan

      U R right … “off topic” with a serious case of: diarrhea of words; constipation of ideas.

  • ladybug

    If you voted for Obama because he is black, you are a racist. If you didn’t vote for Obama because he is black, you are a racist. I did not vote for Obama because his campaign was all talk and no substance. He did not say what “Change” was and now we know and I’m glad I didn’t vote for him. independent voter

  • Viet Nam Vet 67-68

    Riots are just part of his plan to disrupt and take the spotlight away from how bad this Admistration has done for the Country and his Foreign Policies. We must keep the pressure on him because he is Cracking under the pressure, the more you put on him the more obvious it becomes in his rantings against Romney and Ryan.
    Liberals and Blacks read this: “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of Leadership Failure. Its a sign that America can’t pay its bills It is a sign we now depend on ongoing Financial Assistance from foreign countries to finance our Governments reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s Debt weakens us Domestically and Internationally. Leadership means “The Buck Stops Here” Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grand children. America has a debt problem and a Failure of Leadership. American’s deserve better.

    Senator Barack Husain Obama 2006
    Now that is worth reading and I think for the foirst time I am proud that Abomination stated the truth and he should Resign Immediately because he has failed in every way. Viet Nam Vet 67-68

    • Horace

      Wake up, wake up! Do you honestly think this PERPETRATOR is ever leaving office? He, along with his destruction team have planned his attack on America since the day of his birth. His plan is to tear down the economy, declare martial law & take over complete control as a Dictator. Yes, go vote, however, our votes will not be counted but every illegal vote in America, plus all dead voters will be counted. If by chance he doesn’t win this election (but he will as Soros will make sure of it) he will simply sign an Executive Order attempting to keep himself in office. It will probably work because political idiot Americans in the White House will be too afraid to challenge GOD OBAMA! More than DISGRACEFUL is this man!!!!!!

  • Old Henry

    Avoid the union scum / thugs and vote by Absentee Ballot.

    Call your County Clerk in early October and request an Absentee Ballot and then vote at your kitchen talble. Then head to the post office and mail your ballot. Or go to your County Clerk’s office and turn in your ballot.

    This way you avoid the crowds and the union goons.

    • Nadzieja Batki

      Old Henry, it sounds so nice what you said except by not going to a voting location because of the crowds and the union goons, there is an admission of abject fear of the two legged predators.

      • Old Henry

        Nadzieja:

        That is true, but if a person is planning to stay home due to them it is better to do the absentee ballot.

        I would add that they, and anyone else, might consider taking along a VERY stout walking cane. (It’s not a weapon, it’s a cane…) A baseball bat is too obvious.

        Fortunately I do not have those issues to deal with in my semi-rual area. They try that around here and they would be escorted out behind the building and, ah, educated.

    • uvuvuv

      ohenry, you make it sound like iraq here. i hope you’re just talking about inner city voting because it doesn’t matter how the voting actually goes there anyway, as we all know, wink wink.

      • Old Henry

        uvuvuv:

        I sort of took away from the article that it does mainly occur in the large cities / inner cities, but it can take place anywhere the union goons think there may be an opportunity to affect the vote.

        I don’t, however, see how the goons would know how you are going to vote once inside the booth.

      • MarathonMan

        Do you mean places like Philadelphia and the New Black Panther “voter assistance program”?

  • http://ministryamerica.wordpress.com maeditor1

    I fully intend to vote, but I don’t like the choices we have this time around. Romney is just not much better than Obama and, if he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing, we may be in for some rough times.

    • MarathonMan

      Dig deeply into BOB’s (AKA: Barry Soetorro) background. Here are a few names of his associates: Frank Marshall Davis Bill, Ayres, David Axelrod, Tony Reznick,Rev Wright, Geo Soros these just for starters, Do you know who they are?)

      Look at what BOB has done to the economy. (5 trillion in spending ; More than all previous president put together. 11.5 % actual unemployment and 144 million folks on government assistance. Are you a tax consumer or tax payer?)

      Consider what his Arab Spring has produced. (He has taken us right back to the Jimmy Carter years. The fuse to the mid-east tinder box is now lit by BOB’s policies.

      Ponder what Obamacare will do to medical services: (and how you will eventually wind up before a “bureaucratic death panel” deciding what, if any, service you will receive and that, after you have been TAXED for these phantom services.

      Well considering the above, it is really, really, hard to see and difference between the two is it not?

      • deerinwater

        yep, W made a big mess of it and O’s not cleaning it up fast enough so replace him with another super privileged American that has done will for himself at the expense of American citizens and a way of life that been traded for profit margins among the few. That’s the kind of guy we need to get things back on track alright ~ maybe we can count on the Fed to just disappearing all together. ~ If every American had to pay 14% income tax like Mitt Romney, the fed would have little choice but scale back and disappear.

  • MarathonMan

    Afraid to go out and vote?
    Absentee ballots or Early Voting
    Pick one!

  • Dave Bishop

    Without a doubt this election will change the direction of this counrty’s present position. Do we go for the dictator or for the “business guy”?
    In all the posturing of Congress, we have seen almost no challenge to Mr. Obama, his national and international leanings, or his marriage to the union thugs.
    I believe Mr. Romney believes in America, but unless we have men -and women- to stand against the thugs and thieves of this administration, America will end up penniless, and unable to stand against those who want to bring our nation down.
    If you want to know how unions think, all we need do is turn to the illegal strike in Chicago. The teachers want an early rewrite of their contract voted last year.
    God help us!

    • Old Henry

      Dave, why should God help us?

  • Thinking About

    Voter fraud does exist, look at the states who suddenly want to cleanse the voter rolls and make registered voters prove they are alive. Why is the voter having to prove anything, get the agency who has ordered and made the list of voters to be cleansed have to prove whether a voter is to be removed. It is the state to prove their case. The voter shows up at the polls with a voter card issued by a government agency and then it is not good enough. The ones who claim voter fraud has not been able to prove very many cases of voter fraud but they are still whining. Stop committing voter fraud by cleansing voter records without proof.

  • Carl Manning

    A vote implies that you have a legitimate choice. Choosing between Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum is no choice. A vote implies that a candidate is “representing” your viewpoints, is doing, has done, has said, or is saying something to earn your vote, but I haven’t seen any candidate or party in this election give an inkling of a damn about our Constitution or fiscal sanity or Christian values, so what then would I be voting for if I vote but my own country’s destruction. THAT’S NOT A VOTE I’M WILLING TO GO FOR. That’s just a aste of my time. With these candidates, the country’s imminent destruction is a foregone, fore-ordained conclusion beyond the slightest shadow of a doubt. The GOP has done absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to earn my vote. The DemoCommies go without saying; they are anathema to everything about this country – a sort of Godless altered universe of the Twilight Zone, but the GOP has given them a freepass because they are part of the problem, too. Both of these parties are evil warmongering psychos who play us for fools with their continued support of the government’s inside job of 911. There simply is nothing a TRUE CHRISTIAN can find to vote for with these two parties as their policies do not jive with our Lord Jesus Christ. Their policies only jive with the Lord’s Judgment which is imminent. God offered us a good Christian man who stood for the Constitution and fiscal sanity and an end to the ungodly warmongering based on the 911 lie and the American People bit His hand off. Now, the nation will pay heavily in a very short time from now when His Judgments increase in earnest. God is very irritated with this nation. Many Christian prophets and watchmen have revealed this. Obama is God’s tool of Judgment on America. One cannot defy the Hand of Almighty God when his hand of protection is withdrawn from a sinful Godless nation. Our votes will be in the end just an exercise in futility. Remember, shortly before Jesus died, when He looked out over all of Jerusalem and wept for the nation because she had rejected Him during her hour of visitation??? Remember how He said, “I would’ve taken you under My wings like a mother bird protects her chicks…” He knew the troubles His own people would now face after he left the Earth. This is precisely where America is at this moment. Her Judgments have passed through the threshold of her door. It is about to get real nasty here. The Communists and Islamists have won without a shot. The only good thing I can say about all of this is that the evil treasonous ones in the GOP who have allowed all of this will meet their ignominious deaths shortly. Christians however will be persecuted in America. They will be coming for our children, too. The Lord said, “It will be as in the Book of Lamentations in America.” We are the daughter of Babylon in the Book of Revelation. Put your trust in God, not this hideously evil government straight out of the pit of Hell.

  • Carl Manning

    The writing is already on the wall for the GOP. This is McCain-Dole-Bush Sr-Pick-Your-Wall-Street-RINO all over again, and we know how that story ends every time: DEFEAT. If you guys think you can convince Conservative, anti-Neocon nutjob, Constitutionalist, fiscally sane Ron Paul supporters such as myself and countless other Independents to just up and abandon our principles and throw caution to the wind, you are batbleep crazy. The GOP is about to lose a GIMME FREEBIE ELECTION if ever there was one to so easily win without even trying because they have deliberately chosen to abandon Conservatism, fiscal sanity, Christian values, and the US Constitution. The GOP’s GOD lives on Wall Street; it is nothing more than $$$. It has deliberately chosen to give the one-finger salute to the American People, so we say collectively to the HIGHLY TREASONOUS GOP that has done absolutely nothing to earn our vote: GOOD RIDDANCE & GOOD LUCK DODOGING OBAMA’S HANGMAN NOOSE!!!

  • Carl Manning

    The typical GOP/MSM/FAUX NOISE/RINO RADIO pablum isn’t working this election just as it didn’t work in 2008. The typical trite Chicken Little “Sky-is-Falling” fearmongering just doesn’t sell well anymore because if indeed the Sky is Falling then why hasn’t the GOP done anything to stop it. The RINO Establishment GOP’s logic fails miserably. A campaign cannot run on FEAR alone if it expects to appeal to Conservative voters.

    • deerinwater

      I enjoyed your last two posting CM ~ but the one below is not being very realistic. I don’t believe that it’s the GOP job to do these things, to get to the bottom of 9-11, or Obama birth certificate, etc. Kennedy assassination. It seems the only time the GOP wants to look forward is when the Executive branch is held by a democrat an only then does the National debit seem to matter.

      The body follows the head, I not sure looking back is a good way to solve today’s problems, leave it to historians to write about and read about it in our spare time as we work to solve today’s problems.

      The GOP has clearly been hyjacked, but while this is true, identifying the hyjackers is not that simple. It’s being hyjacked by money to gain power to capture more money. Yet the very nature and success of a hyjacker is to not be see as one.

      Anybody can say they believe in God and the GOP. The church house will allow anyone inside. the GOP will accept any voter that will vote GOP.

      The term Rino, say it all ~ as we seethis self labeling might serve a purpose but clarification is not one of them. For one hypocrite to call another a hypocrite does not offer much clarification either.

  • Carl Manning

    Until the GOP decides to address the 911 Lie, Obama’s Birth Certificate, illegal SSN and Selective Service Registration, Fast and Furious, the true killers of JFK – the CIA and Secret Service – and all of the innumerable government lies, many of us will continue to pretend they don’t exist, too.

  • Carl Manning

    America will NEVER be free and protected by Almighty God until she faces the TRUTH and exposes all of her LIES. Just as people must come clean with God, so too must nations.

  • Carl Manning

    We saw the REAL RINO GOP this go-round at the RNC Convention and on the campaign trail and during the debates, not that any of us Ron Paul supporters wer surprised by any of this. Most of us expected it because we know the REAL GOP ISN’T ONE DAMN BIT CONSERVATIVE IN THE LEAST; it’s all just ex-Democrat RINO RETREADS who converted to the GOP out of nothing more than political expediency. All of us Ron Paul supporters want no part of a party that enjoys anything that smacks of tyranny. Not one of us finds it surprising in the least that Ron Paul refused to endorse Mitt Romney. In 2008, Ron Paul endorsed the man for which I voted to be President, the Constitution Party candidate, Chuck Baldwin, a true patriot.

  • Carl Manning

    Nobody’s fooled anymore. Who are you kidding??? America is officially a Communist country now. Our democratic republic is really a soviet republic. We are now the USSA, and everyone knows voting in Communist countries is just for show, illusion, and delusion.

    • deerinwater

      Who are you trying to kid, ~ Socialist , sure, ~ communist ~ no. much less officially .

      God doesn;t have anything to do with it. it’s people! Gods been around a long time, if God was the “fix”, ~ we’d be fixed by now.

      and yes, Ron Paul was “our only” conservative candidate . And i don’t know why the GOP is full of sicko’s, ~ The inclusion policy of the DNC to represent “all Americans” drove them out would be my guess. let’s face it , Jesse Jackson is turd in the punch bowel. I know what he can do with his rainbow.

      While you Carl placed in power , would offer me your notions of God, and demand I kneel and somehow~ everything would be better in the world. I’m thinking more along the lines, ~ we’d find some Godless evil doers that needed a serious spanking and WWlll in the making. That or any American failing to pass the God test would find their privileges and rights abridged.

  • soldier

    Fools! With electronic voting machines, I am convinced our votes don’t count whatsoever. We need to move to a system where votes are hand written on paper and painstakingly counted in front of everyone for all to view on camera. If our leaders can not or will not do this, there are no real assurances that our votes count for anything. Obvisoley, under this system, there will need to be more voting districts, etc., and election results wont be known for several more days, but whats the harm in a few more days to keep government bogged down before they can create their perfect society? I want a disfunctional government that cant get anyting done. Afterall, like utopia, its assumed that the something to get done is a great thing.

    • Deerinwater

      I’m with you on that soldier, ~ If ballot counting was all computerized, every computer hack of every caliber , world wide would have a single target to work on.

  • Peter 10-nov-1775

    If you decided not to make a choice, you still have made a choice. It is not the people who vote that count, it is the people who count the vote that count.

    • Bert Cundle Sr.

      The TRUTH Will make you Cry… Not set you free!

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